Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1005 Judge Allows Anti Trump Jurors On Trial, Threatens To JAIL TRUMP w/Pulte

Episode Date: April 17, 2024

Tim, Chris, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Pulte to discuss the judge in Trump's trial blasting him for intimidating jurors, SCOTUS questioning the DOJ's prosecution of J6ers, over a thousand migrants st...orming NYC city hall, and the man who set fire to a Trump sign being sentenced to 12 months of probation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Donald Trump criminal trial continues today and surprising no one, several jurors who are found to be fairly anti-Trump are being allowed on this case. I am a firm believer that there is not a single juror who will say not guilty to Donald Trump. Why? Because even if they think he is, they live in New York and they don't want to be the person who gets identified as being the person who let Trump go. So this should get interesting. There's already been a contempt motion filed against Trump. They want him fined. The judge is threatening to jail Trump for 30 days.
Starting point is 00:00:34 So suffice to say, it's getting spicy. And then we have the Supreme Court hearings where it looks like SCOTUS may be siding with the January 6th defendants over the obstruction charge, ragging on this government lawyer who basically said that if you pull a fire alarm to stop a vote, that's not obstruction. But if you are escorted through the building by cops, well, certainly that is. Now, of course, the solicitor general didn't say it exactly like that, but that's basically the gist of it. Supreme Court justice asked, what about pulling a fire alarm or coming into the court and shutting down the Supreme Court proceedings?
Starting point is 00:01:09 And she said, well, we can't really prove they knew they were doing anything wrong if they did. So we're not going to prosecute them. This will be interesting. We'll talk about that. Plus, in New York, over 1,000 African migrants, mostly, I believe, criminal aliens, stormed City Hall trying to get into this hearing. And according to the New York Post, it was because they were promised by activists green cards and work permits. So, of course, many people are complaining. There's one story from a woman who says her kids couldn't play their soccer game because migrants had taken over the soccer
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Starting point is 00:03:29 a culture war so smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is pulte thanks man who are you what do you do i am the inventor so-called of twitter philanthropy which is now called x philanthropy we help people with direct giving i'm wearing the the thing. Thank you for wearing it. I heard this thing is called. It's a sweater. I've given away millions of dollars of my own money on Twitter. But most importantly, what we've done is raise millions of dollars on Twitter directly for people who are in immediate need and crisis. I also am very involved in the retail stock community, GameStop, et cetera, and also invest in great creators like Mr. Beast and many others. So happy to be here.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Thanks for having me. Thanks for hanging out. Hannah Clare's hanging out. Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Bromo. I'm a writer for scnr.com. That's Scanner News. I'm really happy to be a part of that team. And I'm so glad that Chris Carr, executive editor, is here.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Happy to be back. Chris Carr, executive editor at scnr.com, filling in for the mystical Ian. Yep, indeed. Thanks, guys. Hope you guys are enjoying the show let's get to it here's the first story from the daily mail judge tears into trump for intimidating jury after warning he could be jailed for disruptive behavior as juror is dismissed for posting lock him up on social media now what i love about this is there are actually worse things than that there are people worse things than that.
Starting point is 00:04:49 There are people who actually joined a what is like a pro Biden parade or something like that. I've got some some tweets to pull up and wokeness tweets. Judge Mershon rules that a juror who joined a Biden election victory parade is not disqualified off the jury against Trump. The reason because the juror claims she thought it was a celebration of essential workers. But there's more. Jesse Franklin Murdoch says kangaroo court, no Orthodox Jews allowed, but Trump derangement syndrome is no problem. In this post from Erica Orton, Judge Juan Merchant denied another attempt by the Trump lawyer, Todd Blanche, to dismiss a prospective juror over social media posts, one of which said Republicans projected to pick up 70 seats in prison. Blanche noted that both sides had,
Starting point is 00:05:26 quote, a fair bit of colloquy with the prospective juror. She said such things like she lost sleep last night over whether she could be fair or impartial. The judge did an effort by Trump's lawyers to remove a prospective juror who shared social media posts that showed celebrations on the Upper West Side after Trump lost the 2020 election. The judge said he believed the prospective juror when she answered she could be impartial if she was selected for the panel. So here we go. Donald Trump is facing already contempt charges for alleged violations of the gag order. He's been threatened with 30 days in jail, and we have numerous instances where the jurors have a clear bias against Donald Trump. I do not see a scenario where a single juror will say not guilty because even if they think Trump
Starting point is 00:06:11 is not guilty, not a single juror wants to be the person who has to be surrounded by New York, Trump deranged liberals and and and show themselves to be a Trump supporter. If if this jury says Trump is not guilty, their lives in New York are over. I imagine they'll get attacked in the streets. They'll be kicked out of every club. They'll never be able to eat again. Do you see how many jurors they went through?
Starting point is 00:06:34 They went through like a hundred jurors and God knows how many time half of them burned through. I don't know if you follow that one guy, but he's tweeting out about every juror that comes through. I mean, the craziest of things too, with the people and how they've known about Trump and how they followed him forever. I don't see how he gets a fair shake. And, and I, I imagine if it comes down to all of the jurors and they can't get, get enough, the judge is going to say, I don't care. Clearly. I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:59 the fact that the judge has denied Trump the right to go to the Supreme court. Now, now this is, this is what everyone was talking about that Trump asked to go to Barron's graduation and the judge said, well, we'll see how things are moving along, but I'll wait to see where we're at in the case before I decide if you can do it. Trump got pissed and was like, I can't even go to my son's graduation as an outrage. But that was the judge saying, we'll see. The judge literally said, you may not go to the Supreme Court oral arguments for presidential immunity. He said, saying, we'll see. The judge literally said, you may not go to the Supreme Court oral arguments for presidential immunity. He said, yeah, I get it. That's important. But so is the New York Supreme Court. I think as a former president, Donald Trump has a
Starting point is 00:07:38 duty to this country to be at the Supreme Court during the oral arguments for presidential immunity. It is of utmost importance. And I'm of two minds on this one. I believe that presidents are immune from criminal prosecution for actions they took while during the course of their official duties, which certainly would fall under what Trump was doing, especially considering he was impeached over what happened on January 6th, but he was acquitted ultimately. So there is an element of double jeopardy, I suppose. But, you know, I'm not going to cry too much if they rule that presidents don't have immunity. There's no guarantee that Trump is actually convicted on any of these things. He was already acquitted once. We'll see. They'll probably load up a liberal jury in D.C. and then
Starting point is 00:08:21 we'll convict him. And but at the very least, I can say it opens the door to Barack Obama being criminally charged for the extrajudicial assassinations of Anwar al-Awlaki and his son, Abdurrahman al-Awlaki. Not that I really believe anyone would ever prosecute Barack Obama, but hey, please, fine. You want to open the door? We'll open the door. Well, he didn't offend the great bureaucratic state of New York, right? Like, that's what this is to me.
Starting point is 00:08:43 New York bureaucratic arrogance saying you can't go to the Supreme Court. You have to stay here. We are the center of the universe. And in fact, we want you to stay here so that we can make the media circus as bad as possible for you. There's no way Trump could get an impartial trial in New York City. There's no way. And yet here we are going through this waste of taxpayer dollars saying, hey, 100 jurors, what do you guys think? Have you guys heard of this guy, Donald Trump? You know that building you bought ice cream at with his name on it? Have you heard about the ice skating rink? I mean, there are a lot of people in New York who have fond memories of Trump
Starting point is 00:09:14 who would have been sympathetic to him, who maybe have turned against him since he got more involved in politics, right? But either way, it seems impossible to think that think that you know there was one juror that got dismissed who was like i would love to serve on the jury for the greatest president ever but my my job makes it impossible right so there are people who are like no i want to be on trump's jury someone said that yeah someone said that i got this out of an nbc news news report that the thing is this guy is not going to be there he has to he commit to his job or there was like a surgeon who got dismissed or there was a high school teacher who was like no i
Starting point is 00:09:50 could not be impartial like some of them are self-selecting out but what concerns me is the fact that this judge is like trump you have to stay here we are the most important thing in the world and there are going to be jurors who are like yes i could be impartial knowing full well that they have already decided that he's guilty. There was this one case. I can't remember what it was. It might have been Kyle Rittenhouse. I'm not sure where.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I think it was Rittenhouse. One of the jurors said, I do think I could be impartial for this case. But as a staunch advocate of the Second Amendment, I don't think it would be right. So and they're like, OK, you're excused. And every conservative on Twitter is just like, this is the problem. The honor and dignity of the right. I believe in the Constitution. Therefore, I can't do this.
Starting point is 00:10:32 It would be unfair. What would fair be someone who doesn't like the Second Amendment being on these on these cases? So now you have I'm surprised to hear that. I didn't know that a juror who should say I can be impartial. You've got jurors who are like, I went and celebrated Biden's victory, but I'll be impartial and say, OK. And then a guy's like, he's the greatest president ever, ever.
Starting point is 00:10:51 But, you know, I'll leave. But I think to your point, you know, all of them know it's a risk to be the juror that was that was leaning pro Trump. Right. And in this case, the guy said, I have a conflict with my job. So he probably felt more comfortable saying, I wish I could be on this jury. He knew he wasn't going to be able to go on the jury. He knew he was going to get excused for employment reasons. And so he felt like he needed to be like, I would like to be
Starting point is 00:11:11 here for the greatest president. It's interesting that only the people who know they're not going to be on might be open about that type of support. Well, it sounded like this guy actually just needed to submit to his higher calling in this instance. I don't know what his job situation is. I mean, it must be pretty bad if he wants to be on that jury, but he's not going to be able to, but I don't know. I'd like to think that there's somebody that's going to be the last of the 12 angry men in a room.
Starting point is 00:11:32 That's going to be like, no, actually we're going to do this right and give him an impartial verdict. Yeah. It'd be nice. So it's Trump in there all day. I mean, that's what it looks like.
Starting point is 00:11:40 That's pretty wild. Every day, except for what? Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday. I mean, that's basically jail in and of itself. Yeah. That's, that's part of. Every day except for what, Wednesday, Saturday, and Sunday? That's basically jail in and of itself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:49 That's part of the idea. If I was Donald Trump, I'd be at the Supreme Court, no question. I believe that's what, next Wednesday? I'm not sure. I think it's next week. And let them throw you in jail? It's not Wednesday. Would they?
Starting point is 00:12:03 They can try. I mean, that's the headline right former president donald trump jailed for attending supreme court oral arguments on presidential immunity his case that that is precedent this country needs the like donald trump needs to actually challenge the corruption if he does not he is complicit to a certain degree. This, this court case against Trump is fake. Everybody knows it's fake. And I mean that literally anybody saying otherwise is lying to you. The Krasenstein's going all day and night. They're full of it. They'll, they'll, they'll get there. You know, they'll, they'll sophist their way out of a, they'll try to out of paperback. This is a misdemeanor business filing charge that for no legitimate reason, the DA is up
Starting point is 00:12:50 to a felony. Clearly fake. There's no underlying criminal action. The FEC and the DOJ both said what Trump did here is not a crime. So there's no charges. The state just wants to lock up Trump and stop him from campaigning. The only reason corrupt government can do this is because Trump agrees they can. That's really it. At a certain point, when a
Starting point is 00:13:13 clown shows up to your doorstep with a clown warrant, you can't just comply with a group of clowns. So what would you do? Sit in Florida and then just say, OK, New York, you got to come and arrest me? Well, we talked about this with Atlanta and depending on the circumstances, yes, 100%. I'd say you send your guys to my state because at the time with Atlanta, it created some interesting circumstances. Ron DeSantis running for president.
Starting point is 00:13:38 It would put Ron DeSantis in the position of having to comply with a state request from Georgia to Florida to go and get Trump. And if Ron DeSantis in the position of having to comply with a state request from Georgia to Florida to go and get Trump. And if Ron DeSantis did, it'd be the end of his political career. He'd have to say, no, I will not file this paperwork. And then Trump could say, I've received no paperwork. They can say whatever they want on TV, but if they don't, they don't come through a legal, the legal system, it's just meaningless words on TV. As for New York, I suppose the issue is Trump owns
Starting point is 00:14:05 a lot of his net worth is tied to New York. So he's concerned about that. If it were me, I would say with all due respect to your honor, I will be attending the Supreme Court oral arguments as this has tremendous consequences for this nation. And I mean that no disrespect to the state, to your proceedings. and i believe my lawyers can more than sufficiently be here to to carry out their duties but i also have a duty to this country that cannot be ignored and then i'd go and then i'd say call it call their bluff i gotta be honest beyond that i don't know if i i might be a little bit more brash than trump perhaps um i don't know what trump's legal strategies are perhaps behind the scenes. He's thinking, look, I'm probably going to win
Starting point is 00:14:48 in November. This becomes nothing. So let's just buy the time, take the press. It's putting his name on TV every single day. It makes him the number one subject it's it's press. You can't buy. That's probably what he's thinking. However, principally, if it were me, I might just be like, come and get me. You know? It does capitalize off the sense of distrust that a lot of Americans have in the judicial system right now, right?
Starting point is 00:15:14 Like he's at jury selection, which means it's even more of a circus. And already a lot of Americans don't trust jury trials, right? They don't feel like the federal government or whatever government's going after them is doing it with good intentions. And the whole situation, especially the Supreme Court, exemplifies the sort of tangled weave of court cases that Trump is now engaged in, right? He can't go to one case that he's involved in because another state said,
Starting point is 00:15:40 no, you have to be here. Meanwhile, another part of New York is investigating him for something else and another part and over here in atlanta like this guy can't and i think if he doesn't participate as i understood it from my lawyer in new york they can revoke the bond as it relates to the georgia case so it's just why like why would those two things be like and i think for the american voter in some ways just always hearing about it from the press in a way that makes, you know, the press is attacking Trump. I think it would make the average American citizen more sympathetic to that, to him, because it says this is a system that's trying to oppress you. And a lot of Americans feel that that's what the government's purpose is right now.
Starting point is 00:16:17 They are trying. It's to oppress them. I actually I think Trump may have a civic duty to not attend the trial in New York and to just go home. And the reason being is that this is a corrupt DA with fault with fraudulent charges using the power of the state to go after a president, which for clearly political reasons. And I think Trump should give a press conference in Bedminster or probably better off Mar-a-Lago because Jersey would probably arrest him too. But he should go to Florida and just say there is no underlying crime until Bragg produces the underlying crime that upgrades business filing misdemeanors to a felony. I will not take this seriously. This is it. The charge against Trump is that Michael Cohen was paid off Stormy Daniels and that Trump lied about the payments to Michael Cohen on his filing, calling it a legal expenses retainer,
Starting point is 00:17:19 which is falsifying documents, a misdemeanor. But it could be a felony if it was done in furtherance of another crime. Bragg has not revealed any underlying crimes and the payments that Trump made, according to the FEC and DOJ are not criminal actions. That being the case, I think Trump actually has a civic duty to say until there is a legitimate underlying crime that will would justify the upgrade to a felony this is a this is a circus and it's fake and i i don't care to waste my time with a clown show the problem now that i see is that new york and atlanta uh and the federal government for that matter i mean especially january 6th they're creating fake charges against people. I mean, the obstruction charge now at the Supreme Court is another great example of this. Charging the J6ers, particularly Jacob Chansley, the Q
Starting point is 00:18:15 shaman, with obstruction, despite the fact that what he did doesn't qualify. And this was even sussed out in court in the Supreme Court hearing today, although they didn't get to it specifically. But literally, even the premise from the Solicitor General was that if you don't know what you're doing is wrong, it's not wrong. It's not obstruction. You have to know you are doing it. Well, Chansley was escorted in by cops. So what we are seeing now is in all of these cases, fake charges against people. So long as Trump and the right comply with fake charges, it legitimizes them. Antifa doesn't do this. They don't show up.
Starting point is 00:18:54 They say, screw you. Who are you? The example I've given multiple times the past couple of weeks, proud boys and Antifa fight in New York. Antifa gives a middle finger to the cops and leaves. Proud boys shake the cops hands and the cops turn them around and arrest them and put them in prison. The right keeps saying fraudulent charges are legitimate and then saying, I guess I'll go to jail now. And then they do. And the left just says, we don't think it's a real charge. And they go,
Starting point is 00:19:15 okay. And then the left leaves. You've got apolitical criminal gangs taking over city streets across the country. Cops are like, I'm not going to arrest them because they don't listen to us anyway. Then the right says, don't worry if you arrest me, I'll comply with everything you say. And they go, okay, you're under arrest. They go, okay, thank you, officer. I'll go to jail now. I don't understand. Even the former president, when everybody knows this is bunk, is like, well, I guess I'll just act like it's legitimate and make sure everyone in the world knows I am treating it seriously like it's a real charge. I think that's one of the conflicts that maybe people get from their lawyers. I've known a lot of people to have really serious legal issues, especially even in the state of New York. And
Starting point is 00:19:54 the first thing they get told, even if there are no charges, is cooperate. Look like you're complying or look like you're not holding up whatever they're doing so that way it doesn't look to a judge like you're the problem. And i think that advice is often bad because complying especially with a judicial system like they have in new york which is heavily biased just means that you're letting them get information from you or or you're going along with their system just so that they can use it later on january 20th 2017 a hundred several hundred to a thousand plus far leftists rampaged through Washington, D.C. I remember that. I was there.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Setting fires. That was crazy. Yep. Smashing windows. Do you know what the outcome of that riot was? Nothing happened to them, I bet. Oh, nothing? It's the opposite.
Starting point is 00:20:40 They got paid out millions of dollars. Wow. The federal government paid far leftists and black clad violent arsonists got paid out something, I think, to the tune of a million plus dollars for that, for being wrongfully arrested or something. I hope they do that for the January 6th people who get exonerated. The point here is. I see it all the time. We were talking about it with with Doug Mackey. I talked about it with the Steven Crowder case when it comes to judges right now. Every cop and every judge, and I mean this somewhat in a general sense, obviously not literally all of them, they're just thinking in
Starting point is 00:21:16 the back of their mind, what do I have to do to be able to go home, sit down in my recliner and watch the game. Conservatives comply every step of the way. So we're good there. The left never complies, burns things to the ground and beats people and shoots them and kills them in some instances. So what does that tell the judges, the prosecutors and the lawyers? On January 20th, 2017, when hundreds of far leftists were kettled by cops and arrested. And I was in this group that got arrested. I was there for like two hours before being released because I had a press pass and I'm not an idiot. Some other
Starting point is 00:21:55 journalists were screaming in the face of cops, spitting on them. I was standing off to the side, waving my press pass, being like officers, please. So I ended up getting released without getting charged, but I was arrested. I was told I was arrested several times. These people were told to resist. They're not, not, not on the fit, not physically on the ground. They were captured. They were surrounded. They said, go to jail, say nothing, tell them nothing, deny everything. Then our lawyers will come in and we'll delegitimize the whole process. The police had no way to actually charge any of the individuals because they were all wearing black hoodies and masks. And so the police said, okay, conspiracy to riot. You all showed up wearing the same thing to engage in this behavior. And the lawyers argued
Starting point is 00:22:37 my client just so happened to be wearing these clothes. You can't accuse him of a crime for wearing clothes. Prove he communicated this conspiracy. Now, the reality is it's a loose, passive conspiracy, right? These people know the tactic of black block. They don't need to tell each other to do it. So a few of the people pleaded guilty. Then eventually the rest were all released. Charges dropped. Then they sued and they were paid out. What does the right do? Complies instantly. Goes to jail and the machine beats the crap out of them. I just feel like if there is a legitimate case, certainly if you commit a crime, yeah, you know, you, you, you, you go to, you go to court, you get your lawyer, you argue it. Right now what we're looking at with Trump is the DA waaved a fake piece of paper. I can't stress this enough.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Falsifying business records is not a felony. He said, it is because there's another crime here. And they said, what's the crime? I'm not telling you. Okay, well then if you're not, then there's no, then this charge is fake. So you effectively have a guy dressed like a clown waving a clown warrant.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And could you- And his Dunkin' Donuts. Did you see him walking in this morning? That's right. Looks like a mess. This is what I see. And this is this is what this is the point that i've made several times i mean if a clown shut up to your door knocked on the door and you opened it and he says i have a clown warrant for your arrest would you comply no i don't know why trump is this is not a real a real a real warrant the judge his daughter is uh has democrat clients fundraising off of this everybody
Starting point is 00:24:04 knows what's going on. He's telling, he's telling Trump, he can't go to Supreme court hearings. This is clearly political. And Trump is like, guess I'll just do what they tell me to do. And then limps on in and then says, this is political to travesty. I can't believe it's happening. It's like, well, at a certain point, the system either breaks or you bend the knee. My fear is if this system is allowed to persist as it is, welcome to the communist revolution you've lost. If Donald Trump, the former president, says these are false charges, I refuse to subject myself to a charge that has no underlying crime and has been falsely presented.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Take it up with the federal government and we'll file in federal court and challenge this. He's not even doing that. He's complying with every step of the way on all of these cases, by the way, every single one. And they're all bogus. Comply, comply, comply. Every time he gets sued over a bunk, over a ridiculous 30 year claim of rape. And he says, guess I'll show up for this one. Then they say you're guilty. He's like, what? I can't believe this is happening to me. The the the the what Donald Trump is saying to everyone in this country is the government can do it. They will do it.
Starting point is 00:25:08 And you can do nothing about it. I think that makes him relatable to voters. Like I said, like people who live there. I mean, trust in the government is not high. And so if it can happen to Donald Trump, what keeps it from happening to you? Right. If they can do this to him, what would they do to you? I can't say whether or not he should resist or not go, but I will say that I think it demonstrates a really effective image to voters that are saying,
Starting point is 00:25:28 even Donald Trump, who was president, a billionaire, this well-known guy is having to do these things. I would not be able to even afford the defense that he can. So the concern I have is maybe Trump's playing the victim angle of the government is out to get me. Look how ridiculous this is. I am trying my best to comply and be reasonable. Vote for me. That's why. Maybe that's the right play. My concern, however, is that when I meet your run of the mill normie NPC out in the street, they go, yeah, but I mean, Trump Trump trump's like he did he was fraud with his business and i was he's in criminal court for it and you're like do you know what the trial is about no i don't know i just heard that he committed like fraud and stuff but didn't they do that with
Starting point is 00:26:12 the russia collusion thing they did it with all the different impeachments i mean at some point this guy is just the power of positive thinking right the eternal optimist and he just thinks that he is invincible i mean in any ways he's shown that he can be so at what point is it just he's like oh you know what i've escaped everything else i'm gonna go out there i'm gonna be positive and god's gonna help me i mean which is also kind of the boomer mentality i hadn't really thought about until you guys started talking about it this way but like that sort of um willingness to go along with whatever is thrown at you from the government or the system belief in the court system if you're're being prosecuted, you have to show up. I mean,
Starting point is 00:26:47 that's a pretty boomer way of viewing the world. But also, on the other hand, maybe he does see the free publicity angle to this. He really has that positive energy. And he thinks, who cares? I'm going to win. I don't know if it's necessarily the boomer mentality. It's the conservative mentality. The example being the Proud Boys in New York. Antifa's agitating and attacking people. The Proud Boys get into a fight with them. And the Proud Boys go to the cops and say, the cops are our friends. And those guys went to prison for four years. And Antifa got no charges. This is what we consistently, we keep seeing it over and over again. I would argue that in the case in New York with the Proud Boys is interesting.
Starting point is 00:27:28 They certainly said stupid things on live stream like they were laughing about getting into the fight. But you you you show up to your own private event to see a speech. It was Gavin McGinnis speaking and far leftists around the building screaming at people, harassing them and then putting on masks, threatening people. Yet you're the victim when you're trying to leave and they're surrounding and they're on every street corner yelling at you and then the proud boys are like, okay, I guess let's go. Like if we're going to leave and these guys are on every street corner, then it's either going through them or we're not leaving.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Then they thought the police would be on their side. Then they went to prison. I think by now they must have gotten out. That was a while ago. I wonder what the update is on that. But we see that consistently where these people on the right think that going to court is going to get them a victory. But I'll say it again. In my experience, it's simply the judge goes, whoever is going to break first is my fastest ticket out of this case. And so you could have a guy go into your house and steal your TV. And then when the cops come and he's got your TV, he says, he sold
Starting point is 00:28:33 it to me. That's a civil matter. You guys got to go to civil court. And you're like, what? He stole my TV. Cops don't care. Whatever gets me out of here. Look at the squatters. Then you go to court and you say, your honor, he stole the TV. No, he didn't. Then the judge is only thinking, which one of these guys breaks first? Which one of them will say, I give up? Because then we can all leave. I got all these cases on the docket. I don't have time to deal with this. Which one?
Starting point is 00:28:55 You, sir, shut up. You lost. You agree? Done. We can go home now. There was a couple times. So Chris is the executor. I talk to him pretty much every day.
Starting point is 00:29:04 And there was a time, I don't know if you remember this, during the Fannie Willis hearings when they were trying to determine if she had, you know, incorrectly hired something like her, you know, boyfriend and things like that, where we were watching a live stream in our separate offices. And I was like messaging like this judge obviously wants to leave. This judge looks miserable. And it was just, you can tell, I mean, I think there is something to the fact that some judges are like, I don't want to be here. But there was that one judge,
Starting point is 00:29:31 I can't remember his name now, who like, remember when they panned to him with the camera and he like smiled? Oh, Ingeron. Ingeron, like he was on a sitcom. Like there are some judges that want this media attention. He looked too happy to be there. Right, and that's a problem too.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Like, do you want the judge that wants to go home or do you want the judge that's like, is gonna make me a national star i want the judge that understands the job and has some you know palpable level of discernment yeah that's true i want the judge from the kyle rettenhouse trial who screamed don't get brazen with me at the prosecution my favorite lines of all times like there there is something towards the judge's attitude um i'll never see o'keefe went to the judge's uh. Did you see how Keith went to the judge's gym? Oh, yeah. That was pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:30:07 That was good. Fonny Wills is a really great example. There's clearly serious conflicts of interest and ethical issues at play. And the judge goes, well, but, you know, I mean, it's fine. Just stop. Like, just fix it. And we'll just keep going. It's like, can you really keep going if all this time there was an ethical problem and even so he essentially admitted at the end of the day that she's poisoned how this
Starting point is 00:30:29 trial looks to the average person in the public you know so but people think do anything about it people think judges are these intelligent smart arbiters of truth and justice and i think the easiest way to explain it is uh imagine you and your next door neighbor were fighting over a lawnmower. Go to the neighbor across the street and ask him to adjudicate between the two of you. And you'll be like, what? My neighbor is just some guy. Congratulations, you now know what judges are. They're just some guy or lady. They don't know any better than anybody else.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Sure, they have an understanding of the legal system, but justice is not an issue of the legal system. Procedure is. So Trump is clearly, any sane judge would be like, what? What's the underlying crime? And when the prosecutor says, it's a secret, he'd say, get out of my courtroom. What are you doing? Now, what do you think the appeals court does? Well, it depends.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Depends on the judge if it's a if it's an obama or clinton appointed judge or something they just say nope it's fine i'm going to jail if he did skip a day in court and he did get arrested do we know how long he'd have to be in jail is it just like a nightly thing or i i don't know i don't know they're threatening him with 30 days 30 days yeah so how will all of this play into i mean trump has said several times, I'm going to win New York. To be fair, they're saying it's keeping him from the campaign trail, but he's exactly in one of the states that he's sort of, in baseball, they like point to like where they
Starting point is 00:31:55 hit the ball or whatever. Like this is Trump being in New York being like, and I'm here to campaign. Like if I'm going to make this a national stage, I'm going to win the state, which is interesting. That's crazy. He's pulling a Babe Ruth from that courtroom by being in there like they think they're really slapping him on you know on the wrist with this but they're he's they're actually just making it so much
Starting point is 00:32:12 worse for themselves think about it he goes out there every day he gets to command them news conference remember for the last many years they've been keeping him off the air yeah now they have no choice but to cover him right there was a whole thing where they were ignoring him for years right after he was president now he's out there he sets for years, right? After he was president. Now he's out there. He sets the pace for the day and he's just running with it. That may be the strategy.
Starting point is 00:32:31 They may have said, look, this is great. You're going to be the top news for every major outlet the entire time they do this. Take it. You can't buy that press. It's going to save you heaps. So they're talking about Biden's raising all this money. He's got so much more than Trump. Trump doesn't need it he's on tv non-stop 24 7 and that's probably the strategy trump plays the victim that's why he comes out before and after
Starting point is 00:32:53 he get a statement and that's why they want to put him in jail for the gag order they're like we can't let him speak he's winning from this yeah so they're they're i don't know what they're going to try and do they said they want a a $3,000 fine for his posts on Truth Social or whatever. That's crazy to me. I think the whole idea that they're trying to keep him off the campaign trail with these, you know, basically legal handcuffs is has always been crazy. But it really backfired when he before the way before the RNC, way earlier than I expected, just became the presumptive nominee.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Right. It was one thing when there were people competing with him. You know, maybe there would be a long shot campaign. Probably not. But now everyone knows November is a rematch between him and Biden. And we're all sort of hanging out in the meantime. Right. Like the Trump show.
Starting point is 00:33:39 It literally is the Trump. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Let's jump to this next story from the ap supreme court questions obstruction charges brought against january 6 rioters and trump this is great uh we have this clip and wokeness posted it supreme court justice gorsuch gorsuch gorsuch gorsuch nukes joe biden's doj over january 6 sentences gorsuch lists multiple cases of folks who obstructed a congressional
Starting point is 00:34:04 proceeding without receiving a 20-year sentence. Let's play the clip real quick. It's about two minutes long. If I might. So what does that mean for the breadth of this statute? Would a sit-in that disrupts a trial or access to a federal courthouse qualify? Would a heckler in today's audience qualify or at the State of the Union address? Would pulling a fire alarm before a vote qualify for 20 years in federal prison? There are multiple elements of the statute that I think might not be satisfied by those hypotheticals,
Starting point is 00:34:42 and it relates to the point I was going to make to the Chief Justice about the breadth of this statute. The kind of built-in limitations are the things that I think would potentially suggest that many of those things wouldn't be something the government could charge or prove as 1512C2 beyond a reasonable doubt would include the fact that the actus reus does require obstruction, which we understand to be a meaningful interference. So that means that if you have some minor disruption or delay or some minimal outburst, we don't think it falls within the atmosphere as it began with. Okay, so my outbursts require the court to reconvene after the
Starting point is 00:35:17 proceeding has been brought back into line, or the pulling of the fire alarm, the vote has to be rescheduled, or the protest outside of a courthouse makes it inaccessible for a period of time. Are those all federal felonies subject to 20 years in prison? So with some of them, it would be necessary to show nexus. So with respect to the protest outside the courthouse, we'd have to show that, yes, they were aiming at a proceeding. Yeah, they were trying to stop the proceeding. Yes. And then we'd also have to be able to prove that they acted corruptly.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And this sets a stringent mens rea. It's not even just the mere intent to obstruct. We have to show that also, but we have to show that they had corrupt intent in acting in that way. We went around that tree yesterday. I know. I heard the argument yesterday. I know I, I, uh, I heard the argument yesterday, but you know, I feel bad for this, uh, Elizabeth Preligar because she has to argue what is the stupidest position imaginable because it makes literally no sense, but she has to, it's her job. So she's trying, bless her heart. She's trying, but, uh, but then we have to prove it was done corruptly. They knew what they were doing is wrong. She is, what's surprising to me is this
Starting point is 00:36:26 would end leftist political organizing overnight. And so I'm actually, I'm of the mind, I'm like, oh, I actually want her to win this one. If she wins this, that means anytime Antifa protests in the street, anytime they show up and bang on a door of the building, 20 years in prison. Now, I really don't think that's good for this country. We do need free speech, but her argument is if you, you have to, they have to prove you knowingly we're trying that you were intending to obstruct and that there was wrongdoing in it. Okay. Well, these leftist organizations have direct action meetings where they get together and they explain why you will be arrested because what you're doing is wrong. In which case her argument is meaningless. I really do think based on this, we're going to see the Supreme Court come out on the side
Starting point is 00:37:15 of the J Sixers. Many of the J Sixers will likely have their charges dropped pertaining to obstruction. Jacob Chansley is a good example. How could this man have known what he was doing is wrong if the police escorted him through the building to which he then said, thank you, officers, for allowing us in the building? And from what I've heard from this this day in court, they're citing his social media posts, right?
Starting point is 00:37:38 They're saying he said this, that and the other that we should stop the vote, do whatever. But I feel like that all comes to an end when you get there and the police are that we should, you know, stop the vote, do whatever. But I feel like that all comes to an end when you get there and the police are like, come on in. Like, then you're not disrupting anything. The police are letting you in. No matter what your intention was coming to D.C., the second you get there and police say, it's cool if you come in, then you're just going in because the police said it was OK. Her standard is meaningless. Right. Corruptly. And what does that mean? She says it means wrongfully. But what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:38:07 When Gorsuch asks her, these protesters are intending to block the vote and shut it down. And she goes, yeah, but they may think they have a First Amendment right to do so. So because they think they have a right to do it, it's legal. That's a bold statement. I guarantee you each and every one of those J6ers were screaming First Amendment right to a regis of grievances, believing they had a right to go into a public building and contest the vote. So it's an interpretation of her. The government is basically arguing to the government, mind you, which is hilarious, that they get to decide when they think you did
Starting point is 00:38:41 something wrong. That's it. Have a nice day. Yeah. The government's arguing to itself about something that happened to it. It's very weird. What's crazy is, you know, you guys grew up, I think you grew up in the 90s, 2000s, right? It's like, you never saw any of this stuff. Now it's like, lawfare is warfare. You know, it's like, this is just the new version of war. You know, we had war in Iraq. We had this kind of war.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Now it's like on the homeland, but instead of domestic terrorism, it's like this lawfare. I mean, it's unbelievable. I see, you know, people like this Preligar, this Engaran, this Murshan. I mean, these are what I would describe as authoritarian, dangerous, malicious, and evil individuals. I wouldn't have said that, you know, when I was a teenager. I would say those, I believe it's fairly naive, but, oh, there's no such thing as good and evil. There's competing interests, but actually I don't think it was so naive. I think it was just the state of politics in, in, in the two thousands and, uh, and before Democrats and Republicans would hang out with each
Starting point is 00:39:39 other. Conservatives and liberals and family members would argue, but they get along and buy each other's presence. Now it's, if you're a Trump supporter, you go to prison for the rest of your life. If you're a far leftist who firebombed a building, we'll let you pass. We're at the point now where the polarization is so extreme. She's literally arguing to the government. They have a right to imprison whoever they think did something wrong. whether it's her argument is literally, if we don't like you, we lock you up. Have a nice day. That's it. The far left can shut down official proceedings. Bowman can pull the warning, the emergency signs off the door and pull the fire alarm and nothing. And you could bumble
Starting point is 00:40:19 into a building with no barricades. The doors were opened by police. You can take a selfie with the cops who will smile. You can say you officer for allowing me and i think you're right the right knows how to use power or excuse me the left knows how to use power the right does not use power refuses when we get power what do we do and i'm saying you know as a conservative if you get power what do you do you just like you're saying you bow over and you take this the left they get in there and what do they do they prosecute the hell out of everyone. When are these AGs in any of these states going to stand up and prosecute as well? I don't think it's going to stop until then.
Starting point is 00:40:53 It's the craziest thing to me. I mean, I've met prosecutors and then ask them, when are you going to charge Biden? And they're like, well, I don't know. I'm like, what do you mean you got a local D.A. in New York charging the former president, Trump? And it's clearly bunk. You're not going to try anything, literally nothing against Biden or anybody else. Fair point in that Biden is deeply unpopular. And so perhaps the strategy really is exactly what we're seeing.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Republicans say, no, no, no, no, let him do it. Let him do it. They're going to lose because of it. You don't think Trump actually wants it, though, do you? All these charges against him and whatnot? No, I think Trump would like to go to his son's graduation. But I also think that sooner or later, my fear is there is no alternative scenario other than no other alternative circumstance, other than Republicans start acting conservatives, not so much Republicans, start acting conservatives not so
Starting point is 00:41:45 not so much republicans start acting like antifa and that they no longer believe the government exists i think what we're seeing right now with especially with elizabeth preligar's argument that oh the j6ers knew what they were doing is wrong so we can lock them up but the far left is two firebombed buildings aren't being charged with this i mean mean, that's insane. We could never figure out their intent. We have no idea what they were thinking. I mean, it's a bit hyperbolic to be fair. They did arrest some of those people. But when it comes to, you know, pulling a fire alarm, for instance,
Starting point is 00:42:16 Bowman should have been immediately charged. No question. He took the emergency sign off the door and then pulled the fire alarm and took off. He didn't even try going through the door. His excuse made no sense. They are outright saying they're a cabal. They will go after the enemies of their mafia. And that's it. At a certain point, the right just says there is no government. There's just a mafia. The left realized this a long time ago. And now they are they're fighting with them physically in various parts of the country and they have allies who are i think you got you got two things with the with
Starting point is 00:42:48 the government an unwillingness to go to the left because they can't win and willingness to work with them to a certain degree to try and earn their favor it's like when uh in dc there was an anti-censorship protest by the right antifa showed up and attacked these guys that benefits That benefits the establishment in the deep state. So they're like, OK, There is no underlying crime. They're just going to say this is not even a legal system. It's quite literally just dudes with guns telling you to get on your knees at a certain point. I guess I could put it this way. I make the joke about clowns fine, but let's just say a guy in a black hoodie and a mask shows up to your house with his buddies and they say, get out of your house, get on your knees. We're tying you up. We're putting you in the van. What does any security consultant tell you? Never go to the second location. That's what they say. When you're
Starting point is 00:43:55 faced with kidnap, the number one thing they tell you is you must do everything in your power to stop them from being able to take you to the second location, because that's when you die. You have a chance to actually resist before that happens. Now, don't take don't take my word for it. Talk to actual security consultants on that one. But what I see now with this case against Trump, these are people who do not have any legitimate legal grounds to arrest, detain or even try Donald Trump. Even on CNN, they were there was a judge saying that the judge should be recused over what his daughter's been doing it was apparently caitlin collins talking to him yeah how is that not relevant it's all of it's relevant and i think it's it's we're going to get to the
Starting point is 00:44:36 point where people just you know look imagine a guy showed up to your house with a badge that said the national development control facility of excellence and and prestige and he claimed he was your he was the emperor of the region and you were his his the question is tell him to get the hell out of there you would right and so this is what i think we're going to end up seeing now with everything they're doing they've pushed so far they're not operating within legal means anymore even the nypd who would execute it is sitting there and loving trump it's pretty crazy the fact that they'd have to arrest them they would do it in two seconds and they would do it anyway exactly yeah i think it's pretty optimistic to imagine a point where conservatives basically have a
Starting point is 00:45:19 delegitimate view of the government i don't i don't really see that happening i mean it isn't conserving something as important as government or something that conservatives perceive as being as important as government liberals too i guess isn't that something that they can't ever really let go of completely no it in a certain sense if a judge signed off on a warrant and they shut up your ass and said look i'm just doing my job i got a warrant conservatives would say well okay officer i respect what you're doing. But when the cop shows up to your house and says, we don't have a warrant, we don't need a warrant,
Starting point is 00:45:49 there's no charges against you, you're going to get on your knees right now or else people are going to be like, okay, this is a shakedown. Sooner or later, it breaks. We've seen it a little bit when conservatives are stomping on the thin blue line flags
Starting point is 00:45:59 because up in the Pacific Northwest, the cops were abusing the right and letting Antifa wreak havoc. Sooner or later, I think this lady has exposed the government massively. And I don't know if maybe we'll never see the ramifications of this. Maybe the right will always just get on their knees and say, thank you, sir. May I have another? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Well, if Trump defied the judge's orders and he did actually go to the SCOTUS hearing, or if he went to his son's graduation, that would, that might be a moment where everybody would flip. If they saw him do it, I think that they might. And I think the issue is Trump may be thinking cold block in a New york jail it is not so comfortable you know i think we did see a signal from the supreme court today that they are aware that the judicial system is essentially operating with a political bias i mean so one of the articles that we have up on scanna right now is on idaho the court ruling that idaho can continue to enforce its restrictions on um gender intervention like medical, whatever
Starting point is 00:47:07 else. And the case was originally bought by families of two minors who said, well, if you ban their access to hormones, they'll suffer a mental, you know, mental stress, mental issue. And a court ruled in their favor, went all the way up to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court, what the case came down to is this idea that the court had issued a universal injunction they had said uh because these people brought a complaint against this part of the law all of the law can't be enforced and the state said well if we let these people we make an exception these minors can get their their hormones can we enforce the ban on surgeries
Starting point is 00:47:38 and the court you know the headlines will tell you this is about LGBTQ transgender policy for minors, but really it comes down to this idea that the court acknowledged that more and more lower courts are issuing these universal injunctions as a way to stop laws that people don't like. to work. But there are activist groups who use, like you said, lawfare as warfare and are able to say, well, if we sue and we get a sympathetic judge, they'll stop this in its tracks. And that reverses anything that's done by the legislature. So we do know that the Supreme Court is starting to signal like one of the lines in it is like, as these universal injunction cases become more and more common, we'll get more of these high profile cases challenging the law. Great point. And I just think it's interesting that, you know, there are a lot of issues. But I don't know that conservatives will ever say like we're anti-government, right? But they might start to say the way our government operates right now is broken and we cannot treat it like a functional, healthy government.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yeah, that's a good point. Oh, man. Speaking of which, functional, healthy functional healthy government yeah let's jump to this story from the new york post over 1 000 african migrants swarm new york city city hall over supposedly falsely promised green cards i wonder if they have images here they do ashley st claire posted this on twitter you can see it here uh 1 300 250 of them got into uh city hall they were according to this article promised green cards and work permits i look at this and uh these are these are criminal aliens the uh reason we know that most of them not all but most of them are
Starting point is 00:49:21 likely criminal aliens is that they were seeking green cards. So they're not here legally. Perhaps some of them may be on tourist visas. I don't know. I think the average American starts to look at this stuff and you have to realize, well, I shouldn't say it this way because I hope Donald Trump wins and I hope it's not the case. But I think many people may start to believe there is no government. The border is wide open.
Starting point is 00:49:46 National Guard was attacked and they still allowed these people into the country. The federal government is trying with all of their might to bring in criminal aliens in defiance of the law of state law and federal law. What is the purpose of government of foreign by the people? We have a constitution. The federal government is supposed to serve the people. It is supposed to be comprised of the people to protect us, to, uh, help us maintain order, but it's supposed to be fairly weak. State law should, uh, state government should be doing the same thing. What do we have now?
Starting point is 00:50:20 The federal government is doing everything, everything in its power to destroy the fabric of this country and the lives of its constituents the lives of the people who are supposedly making the government up they allowed how many how many millions in the past few years was like they're saying seven but it's probably higher those are the ones that we know about the encounters you hear seven to ten but it's seven to ten million non-citizens yeah yeah that's that's what i'm also hearing. And the thing that I think, too, that's crazy about this is, Tim, is because, you know, my family founded a Fortune 500 home building company. And everybody always asks me, how are housing companies and how are all these houses so expensive these days?
Starting point is 00:50:57 Well, partially it's because of all this immigration, in my opinion. Because what happens is you have a lot of these lower income immigrants come into the country. They take up the housing stock. They take up the demand. They push up prices. I think this is also going to cause inflation with regard to housing. And to your point, when you don't enforce the laws and you allow people to come in, and I'm not saying one thing or the other, I'm just saying the facts of supply and demand are, if you have the same amount of supply or lower supply, which you have for housing, and you have greater demand, you're going to see also the cost of goods, in my opinion, go up in this country and continue to go up, specifically housing. This is something that the immigration minister in New Zealand just talked about. You know, New Zealand is a very, very small country anyways, and they were actually talking about restricting legal immigration, restricting short-term work visas.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I'm looking at Chris because he edits all my articles. I'm like, remember when this happened? And they were saying, you know, we can't just have, and the number they were saying is like 170,000 people come to the country because we can't absorb them. Our economy can't handle it. We don't have the housing. The other thing that bothers me a lot about when we talk about migration is that the government uses migration as this way to say like, oh, look, it's solving all these problems that we are not willing to address. So one of the things that comes up a lot with birth rate is that the American birth rate is declining. There's a lot of reasons for that. Some of it's cultural attitude. Some of it is
Starting point is 00:52:14 that millennials are like, I can't afford this. But instead, you'll see these articles about birth rate declining, and then you'll have the same organization say, but don't worry, because, you know, migration helps us. So we're not in crisis, because rather than encouraging and helping American families have their own children, we're just bringing in new people who aren't from here and may not even be here legally. Like, they act like this is a solution to problems, when actually they could offer, you know, child tax care credits, they could do all kinds of things. But instead, they're like, it's just easier for us to replace you. And that sounds horrible to me.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Like that doesn't sound like a government that rallies around and behind its people. Well, yeah, they hate us. Yeah, they hate us. They hate our guts. Your water, your pipes in your city full of lead, your auto manufacturing's being stripped away from you. Jobs are collapsing. The value of the dollar is collapsing.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Foreign wars that have nothing to do with the united states that you don't even understand none of us really do can't buy a house can't buy a house can't afford food it's getting worse and what does your government do for you they allow millions of people to illegally enter the country come to your communities take over your public centers. Demand from you. Here, I got a tweet for you. Maude Marin says, Yesterday, my eldest son's soccer team could not play one of their scheduled games because migrants refused to leave the field the league had permits for.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Even after the cops came and told them they needed to leave, finally, the ref said it was too late for the game to start and left. Two teams of high school boys in uniform with their coaches present and a valid permit could not play a soccer match in new york city because our city has become lawless not the biggest issue or problem but so ugly and so diminishing to the quality of life elon musk responds this will get much worse it will and so this is my fear it's not so much that people on the right will start to believe there's no government.
Starting point is 00:54:05 It's that the government has effectively fled. Like there's it's not even a question of whether you want to believe in the government or not. It really just feels like there isn't one. It's just Biden's doing what he wants there. You know, I'll say it again. The Titanic has hit the iceberg and the powerful elites are pulling as much of the fine China as they can, as they run to the lifeboats. There's a couple of big stories.
Starting point is 00:54:33 The price of gold is, is, has jumped, uh, quite a bit. I think what, like maybe like 400 bucks in the past few months and, uh, reports that ultra wealthy Americans have started purchasing passports in huge numbers more than we've seen before. Well, I forgot what they're calling them, but they're like emergency secondary passports for other countries because the fear is it's it's collapsing. Yeah. So, you know, a lot of people like to buy their St. Kitts and Nevis passport. I think it costs. I don't know what it costs now, but I remember someone told me that they bought one for 50k back in the day a lot of people are
Starting point is 00:55:09 going el salvador has uh passports available for people who want to invest in the country and a lot of people are buying passports secondary citizenship because they're they're watching what's happening here and uh the people with money what are they doing they're building bunkers. It's funny when I get these Instagram ads for these, have you seen them? The big underground bunkers. They're even doing it now on Fox News.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Have you seen it? Not the bunkers, but a lot of the food and all these kind of things. Yeah, I used to hear a lot of wealthy people talk about it. Now it's becoming mainstream. How does all this feel to you though? Because you have a young family. I mean, so does our executive editor over there. When you guys watch these videos,
Starting point is 00:55:49 do you feel scared for your kids or do you feel like more empowered to do something about it? What's the impact? I feel more empowered to come on here and do something about it. I mean, I love helping people online and we help immigrants.
Starting point is 00:56:01 We help everybody. But at some point, you have to stand up for yourself. And when you've got all of these people coming in where you know these people on the screen where are they all going to live that's the problem they're living in shelters and the hearing was on the the uh treatment of the migrants at shelters the stuff so there there there's some behind the scenes stuff that has been made public yet uh that, that, uh, some journalists are working on that. I can't say too much about, but let me just say that I think most people assume it's worse than we realize
Starting point is 00:56:32 that this is surface level news, but what's going on behind the scenes is probably substantially worse. I'm talking, you know, we got the reports out of Chicago of tuberculosis, of mumps. Yeah. During Occupy Wall Street, several women were raped and the occupiers told everyone, do not report this. We will take care of it. And they told the women who had been raped not to tell anybody because if the press found out, it would hurt their cause. Take that into consideration when you see what's going on with this stuff and imagine what's going on in these cities and these shelters that they're not telling you about. Yeah, this is really dismaying. So I'd like to add an additional black pill on top of it
Starting point is 00:57:13 because there was one piece of coverage today that I thought was just the perfect encapsulation of this situation and where we're kind of at right now. It's Savannah Hernandez. Did you guys see her video? No. Okay. So she's on the ground in NYC today, and she saw a guy with a NYC employee badge on, and he looks around at City Hall, and he goes, what's happening here? And she goes, well, these are all illegal immigrants. And he said, that's a mean thing to say.
Starting point is 00:57:36 And she was like, wait, what do you mean? And he, like, ran away. Like, that's all he had. Like, you would think that footage like this and pictures like this would be sobering to anybody that has some scrap of a brain left. You know, it's funny. But it's not. Someone tweeted something where they were like.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Don't you think the majority of people, though, are uncomfortable with this? Well, I mean, this guy isn't. And he's not the only bozo in New York City. He is. That's just that clueless. They're just scared. They're in a cult. If you speak out, you lose your job.
Starting point is 00:58:02 You're fired. And so they're all just saying what they think needs to be said so they'll say that till they die uh until they're told by the quote-unquote right side of history this is why when that uh that that only fans porn star said i found god and i'm quitting i'm like good i don't care if she's honest or not maybe she's grifting but when normies decide like porn stars decide hey the real grift is finding god and convincing it reminds me that south park episode where cartman's like christian music is the path towards getting a platinum record because christians will buy whatever and and my point is
Starting point is 00:58:37 once grifters are like the real money is here, then the culture shifts in that direction because they feel that is the right side of history. So that's a good sign. Somebody tweeted something funny where they were like, you know, I'm really worried about what's going on. I've been feeling concerned about the country. And then the response from their friend was you've been watching too much Tim pool. And I thought it was funny, but the funny thing about it is it actually is more surprising to me that there are people who think nothing is wrong they don't watch tiktok how many viral tiktoks are there are people being like i can't pay my bills anymore i can't afford to live i can't feed well we see it on twitter every day every single day and there are people who are like no everything's fine it's like have
Starting point is 00:59:19 you seen the cost of food have you seen the cost of rent have you seen the cost of homes like young people are living in cubicles and there are people who plug their ears close their eyes say la la la la la stop listening to these podcasts they're wrong they're wrong everything's fine go touch grass go touch grass it's like bro i went and touched grass and i met a bunch of people who are complaining they couldn't eat that's what i that's what i said that fine when i go outside those soccer kids wanted to touch the grass but they couldn't because they weren't allowed. Well, I mean, yeah. So you're seeing all that. What do you see on X with people talking about their struggles? Well, we have 3 million what I call teammates,
Starting point is 00:59:53 which are followers. And across the 3 million people, basically people retweet when I say, hey, do you need help with groceries? Do you need help with medicine, et cetera? And it kind of goes viral, Tim. And what happens is many days we get 30 to over 100,000 replies. What I've seen in the last, let's call it five years or so has been what started out was people needing help and people who wouldn't want free money, right? Who doesn't want free money? Everyone wants free money these days, but it's like, okay, now these days people, it's not even free money. Now it's people need to survive. And what you could use to buy for a meal for five or $ $10, now you need $20 or $30 to go do it.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And so our ability to affect people and help people on Twitter is limited because our resources only go so far. And I think this is the quiet effect of inflation is you're seeing poverty become more mainstream. And, you know, they talk about the middle class. The middle class in many ways is so far gone, in my opinion, when you have to spend $20, $30 in order to afford a meal. Yeah. I think that does something. There was a video I saw a clip of today, a woman saying that her son was asking her like, when are you going to go to the store? And she was like, I have $90 right now. Like it's a very stressful time for a lot of people. And I think it is interesting that you are seeing such engagement with the work that you're doing.
Starting point is 01:01:06 People are wanting to help others, even though I'm sure they're also feeling that financial burden. They are, yes. People come together and they donate and they chip in. And that's been the viral, exciting thing of it. But, Tim, to answer your question, the last three, four years, it's just gotten worse. And it's inflation, inflation, inflation. I mean, that, to me, I think is going to be the biggest issue of this election, or it should be, because I think that immigration also causes that. Yeah, it do. I think it's inflation, immigration, and a sense of geopolitical instability that's
Starting point is 01:01:34 really going to drive people to the borders. I mean, so much of what I see right now is the left saying abortion is the number one issue this year. You see, you know, AP has a permanent place on their website for like, here's abortion news. But when you talk to the average American voter, it's I need to pay my bills. I want to try and buy a house one day. I don't want my relatives to be sent abroad to wars. I don't want to fight it. I think about these things with these wars and stuff too about this Ukraine thing and even the Israeli conflict is you look at it on Twitter. People are dying every day.
Starting point is 01:02:04 They can't afford insulin. They can't afford insulin. They can't afford cancer treatment. I mean, one of the things we do with Twitter philanthropy, ex-philanthropy now, is we pay for groceries for people who are going through chemo. I mean, people can't afford to afford groceries. They have to be out of work when they have chemo. I mean, in my opinion, this is where the resources should be going. And unfortunately or fortunately, that's why we have to do what we have to do.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, to your point about the abortion issue issue we just sent our field reporter a lot to a trump rally in pennsylvania and he was talking to trump supporters that were there and like he would bring up the abortion issue and jen for the most part they didn't really want to talk about it like there was one guy that's just like i'm not an abortion guy look our election was stolen the next one is going to be stolen yeah i mean, we have to stay on topic. Yeah. And like he would ask them follow-up questions. And I just sensed a general kind of apathy toward that whole issue because there are more pressing issues that are really
Starting point is 01:02:53 impacting people's day-to-day lives. Right. If you can't pay your medical bills and you can't pay for groceries, you can't really talk about other things. These hypotheticals mean nothing. And philosophical ethical debates, while there is a place for them and you know i know this abortion in particular is a important issue for a lot of conservatives if you are struggling to make ends meet you are needing to stop that issue for us right you need to triage where the biggest issue is which again i think only works in trump's favor this election cycle i don't think it works in in um biden's favor that's why you know our our
Starting point is 01:03:24 beloved vice president kam Kamala Harris is not currently on an anti-inflation tour. She's on a national abortion speaking tour. That's absolutely wild. Isn't that crazy? I, it just seems like, and unfortunately, this was similar in 2019 and 2020. Moody's analytics was giving Trump this amazing projection for a victory in 2020 and then COVID and it made everything very different. Looking at what's going on right now, I think if you track historical precedent, it would be insane to think Trump could lose with the rate of inflation, with mass
Starting point is 01:03:58 migration. These are huge issues. People can't afford to eat. I mean, historically, we don't really have TikTok and Instagram and X, but now we're seeing these videos pop up all day, every day of people being like, I can't afford to live this way. What's going on? The only thing I can say though, is why I don't know is that somehow every bellwether district went for Trump, but Trump still lost the bellwethers. They get it right every time. For some reason, Trump still ended up losing. It's very strange how that could happen. And so with that anomaly, I have to wonder what will happen this time around in November that Republicans are not prepared for. And they're probably not.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Yeah, I feel like this year is only going to have more plot twists as we go on. It's going to be a long road in November. It's going to be a long road. And I think, again, we and so one of Nikki Haley's gave that speech before she dropped out saying, I'm not going to drop out no matter what happens, South Carolina. She and to her credit, she dropped out after Super Tuesday. She said, you know, if I left the race now, this would be the longest general election in American history. And I think in some ways that's to the american people's benefits i always say it's because we should be pressing both leaders more intensely about um who they're going to staff like who's going to be the head of different agencies and who's going to be in the cabinet and stuff like that uh but i also think it lets all of the issues simmer on a national stage in a little bit longer, right?
Starting point is 01:05:26 Every time you go to the grocery store and it's more expensive, or I just saw the other day that car insurance was up by 26% nationally. Like every time you have to pay a bill as we drive towards the election, you have to think very seriously between do I want the status quo, which is Joe Biden, or do I want something else, which is Trump? Look, it's fascinating to me that the Democratic Party outright says you should have less stuff. They're screaming in your face. There's too many people. You shouldn't have kids. There's too much pollution. There's too much carbon. You shouldn't be driving. And then Trump is of the party that says, drill, baby, drill. The craziest thing is on Twitter, sometimes I'll just test some things out there because I have this audience, as I said, that's 50% Democrats, 50% Republicans.
Starting point is 01:06:10 And I'll tweet out something innocuous like, you know, it's great to have children or you should consider having children. And just the most vile tweets in the entire world. And I don't know what political ideology people are saying this. I have an idea. Yeah, strong guess but but i just can't believe how pissed people get when you just and i say fairly innocent stuff too like you should just maybe have more kids having kids will make you happy kids are a great source of joy and then all of a sudden they're like well isn't my plotty's class a source of joy or isn't my whatever and it's like i didn't say those two things though like different
Starting point is 01:06:45 types of joy my friend it's not sure you didn't say that uh but people will attack you anyways for it right yes it's the people are mentally hijacked these days it's like that guy you were showing earlier who was burning the trump sign oh yeah yeah that's another story that we have let's jump to it let's jump to it i think uh setting the news we have it right here john kane tweets james d white the trump sign arsonist pled guilty to two counts of destruction of personal property this morning he was sentenced to 12 months probation and 80 hours of community service uh here's the video and i wonder if we can we can zoom in is there any sound no sound oh i gotta i gotta jump back. So here you go. For what reason?
Starting point is 01:07:30 He's kicking a Trump sign. It says Trump won on it. Then nothing happened to the sign. And he's just kicking it. He really did a number on that one. And it's got metal on it, too. He shows up at night. In his biker outfit. You gotta love it. What is this?
Starting point is 01:07:45 He tries to move the flag. Doesn't want to get charged with a non-hate crime. He brings a lighter. He sets fire to a sign that says Trump won. And then he runs. He's on camera doing it. Great run. What was the purpose of running?
Starting point is 01:08:04 Why did he have to run? Right. He walked to it doing a great run. What was the purpose of running? Why did he have to run? Right. He walked to it and then he ran. He knew he was doing something wrong. He's a child. Yeah. He's a child in a man's body. And like a child, he ran off because he was guilty.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Look at this. And then didn't he like build it again? Oh, yeah. Look, look, look. He came back. He comes back again and does it. He only got probation for this. Look at this.
Starting point is 01:08:27 The dude makes a sign again. He shows back up to burn it again. Several months later. In his bike outfit. This is several months later? Yeah, because the other two were in August, right? And this one's in February. Was it August?
Starting point is 01:08:38 Yeah. You're right. Wow. So he burned the sign. The sign got forgot. And he just, like, we talked about this before. He kicks the sign and then leaves. And he's brooding about it. So he comes the sign. The sign got forgot. And he just, like we talked about this before. He kicks the sign and then leaves and he's brooding about it. So he comes back with a lighter.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And then the sign gets repaired and he broods about it some more for several months. It comes back and does it again. It's compulsive. He can't help it. That's how irritated and angry the sign makes it. It's a sign in a yard. Please calm down. Maybe he needs to go on a longer bike ride or something.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Yeah. It's not working. He needs to maybe go to a therapist. Maybe he needs to take the biking outfit off for one night what drives a grown man 20 years ago this is unthinkable i think it's generational i think people need to understand um let me give this cartoon example right now i can't remember what cartoon i was watching but it's like a little kid and it was like some wacky magic show. It might have been like Fairly OddParents or something. And then he gets turned into an old person and his pants immediately shoot up to his elbows or to his armpits. The idea being that when you get old, you naturally just decide to pull your pants way up.
Starting point is 01:09:42 No, it's because 50 years ago, people wore their pants much higher. Today, they still wear their pants much higher. Younger generations have different practices. So the idea now is we see like something is wrong with people. What's driving people insane? No, no, no, no, you're mistaken. This guy was always insane.
Starting point is 01:09:58 This, his generation 20 years ago, the reason we didn't see people doing this 20 years ago is because boomers were very different than this. Now you've got Gen Xers who are a very different generation raised with different values engaging in these behaviors. What do you think is going to happen when the jackass generation is old and angry about politics? It's already starting to happen. Jess Margera won't shut up about Trump. I mean, this guy does, he does not like Donald Trump. And I'm like, you're the drummer from the jackass videos. Like, why are you going on Twitter
Starting point is 01:10:28 and screaming about Donald Trump? It's just these generations are moving into political spaces. They're older. And what you'll get is this. So take a look at what millennials do and now consider what they'll do when they're older,
Starting point is 01:10:44 when they're the ones in charge of these institutions. Well, I'll say this. So I have this Twitter following, right? I was on the board of this Fortune 500 company, which is our family's company. It's a $20 billion company. One of the executives was running a whole network of fake accounts, Tim, on Twitter to attack me using other people's identities. Can you imagine that? Yes, this is all true. Okay. He was fired from this Fortune 500 company for running all these fake accounts against me. My point being is this guy's however old, 45, 50 years old, multimillionaire executive. It's just like this guy with, I mean, it's different. This guy's doing arson. This guy's coming up with fake accounts. What is creating
Starting point is 01:11:20 people to just go and do these crazy acts right now where they're hiding behind things or going out and doing this thinking nobody's going to catch them? And they're just totally mentally hijacked. And this is happening everywhere. Everywhere it's happening. I don't think it was months apart. I think he put February was wrong or something like that. He might. I can't.
Starting point is 01:11:44 I remember when we talked about this initially and there's maybe it's wrong. There's also like, I don't know where in the country this is. There's no snow on the ground. The leaves look similar. But either way, he came back multiple days to be like.
Starting point is 01:11:55 It was multiple days. He corrected early on. He said that it was meant to be August, not February. Still, just like this biker man. I don't think. But these are grown men. Who I'm supposed to take seriously? No, thank you. I don't think. But these are grown men. Who I'm supposed to take seriously?
Starting point is 01:12:06 My point is, I don't think it's that Trump made them crazy. I think it's that they were raised in a country making them crazy. And now they're older. And we are seeing this. And it's shocking to us because we've never seen people this old. Look, when this guy was 17, I'm sure he did a bunch of really dumb stuff. And his friends laughed about it. I'm sure they bought cans of shaving cream and sprayed it all over the place, jumped in shopping carts and pushed people down the stairs and were doing ridiculous things like that.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Now he's an older guy and he's doing the exact same things he's likely always done. We are just shocked to see someone who's older doing it because when we were younger, older people did not do this. Well, and we can catch him digitally too. That's true. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:12:47 I mean, we probably would have assumed it was some dumb kid. Right. Now we find it's a middle-aged guy or something like that. Right. And he does, I mean, this is a small point, but he does try to move the American flag. Like he doesn't want to burn the flag. That makes him not like an Antifa type, right?
Starting point is 01:13:02 He has, there's a line he is willing to draw it's just the trump sign that it's so under his skin he's not just gonna kick it he's not gonna light on fire once he's gonna continue to try and burn it down and i think that does show a level of like i mean you gotta hand it to him he was persistent he did not want that sign to be in his neighborhood i guess i only see this getting worse. You know, one of the things I've talked about quite a bit is the polarization is not caused by Trump. The polarization is rooted in the generations.
Starting point is 01:13:38 And so the reason why we saw in the 90s, when you look at the Pew research on the political alignment, Democrats and Republicans overlap because they did. Now you see the political alignment spreading. It's because younger people are polarized and they're becoming more and more polarized based on the media they consume. When these 13 year olds in 10 years are 23, they will be voting and they are going to be as far left and as far right as possible. And that then we're going to be like far left and as far right as possible and that then we're going to be like what's polarizing this country no no no the country polarized a long time ago starting with the younger generations and then once they get older and start entering the voting block
Starting point is 01:14:14 and start taking over industry it becomes more and more apparent and there's nothing you need to stop you can that's what i'm saying too is it's taking over industry not just politics right and it's going to exacerbate to the point where the system can't sustain itself. You've got overt communists. How can you run a country that's this divided? How can you coexist with people who fundamentally believe in things that you think are evil and wrong? You know, the question I ask on the abortion issue for people on the right, if you think abortion is murder, do you all, would you act in defense of the baby about to
Starting point is 01:14:55 be murdered? And most of them say no. But I wonder what happens when you have ideas like that hyperpolarize and you get to the point where the next generations grow up and then you have ideas like that hyperpolarize and you get to the point where the next generations grow up and then you have 30 year olds who are substantially more polarized and they're engaging in behaviors that are considered to be abject evil. I mean, look at maid, for instance, medical assistance and dying. I mean, you've got in Europe, young women who are like, I'm bored. And the doctor says, we will kill you. Quite literally, a woman said, I don't know what I'm alive for and I have no purpose and I can't take it. So I just want to die. And the doctors are like, okay, I feel like something like that comes to the United
Starting point is 01:15:34 States. You are going to have people on the right be like, no, that's genocide. And when that happens, then what the left is arguing for the right to sterilize children. I mean, we're at that point in polarization where we are getting into dangerous territory. Yeah. Yeah. I think ultimately there comes a point where it's like we're stretching a rubber band, right? When it's pulled too far in different directions, either it snaps and you have two separate
Starting point is 01:16:04 things or you have two separate things or you have to release it it comes back together it's not the same as it was before but it doesn't have the same kind of tension and i think america's culture is at a point where it could go either way you could either see really serious divides among people or you see a point when you know the tension breaks and things come back towards the center. Obviously, I think one of those probably would be more peaceful and nicer for people. I don't think people want to see the country dramatically shift and break apart. But it does not seem like our culture can sustain the way it's going when it's actually pulling itself apart. Do you think as many people hate Trump as used to?
Starting point is 01:16:44 I mean, I think that there i know i know for a fact that's not the case anymore you you you can see it now when you go out to quote-unquote touch there are people who i i've met uh there's one guy that i've been talking to who's like a gen z guy and he's just like i was a democrat a few years ago now i'm probably gonna vote for trump and he's just like it's the immigration man. There are a couple of issues and no one loves Biden, right? It's not like people really love Trump and some people are more neutral on him. But with Biden, they're like, well, this is what we have. Yeah, it's a team thing. Right. Yeah. They're voting Democrat. They're not voting team Biden, whereas people would vote for Trump if he ran as an independent, right? People are
Starting point is 01:17:24 behind Trump 110 percent so much so that he really has changed the attitudes of the party. I think the RNC has gone through a lot of internal change because of his influence. The DNC is effectively the same and no one is out. I don't know anyone who's like Biden is the best. I would follow him to the ends of the earth. They're more like, well, he has the right letter at the end of the ticket. So it just feels like years ago, 50% of people hated Trump in so many ways. And now it just doesn't seem like that as much anymore. Yeah. Just when you're talking to people?
Starting point is 01:17:52 Just when I'm talking to people. Even the sentiment on Twitter. For sure. I posted a tweet a few weeks ago where I said, oh, I talked to the president for a few minutes or something like that. If I had done that three, four four years ago i would have had probably 50 000 people unfollowing me right i didn't lose any followers right that to me is an indication of some kind of sentiment now what that is i don't know now you still got people who went absolutely crazy about that but uh it just doesn't seem to be the way it was yeah i knew people who had no
Starting point is 01:18:23 business in politics vote for Joe Biden in 2020. And this is what I argued to Bannon when he was like, it was rigged, it was stolen. And I was like, yo, when I saw my skateboarder friend film a video of himself dropping his mail-in ballot saying we got to vote for Biden, I was like, oh, wow, Trump lost. Skateboarders notoriously don't care about anything notoriously will live in a studio apartment with 10 people paying 50 bucks a month if it means they have to work less so they can skate more and here's a guy who's like in his late 20s being like i'm doing my part and voting for joe biden and i was like wow now that's mobilization so i today i don't see it today a lot of these people are now saying like,
Starting point is 01:19:06 yeah, that was a mistake. I've talked to some people and family members. They were like, I should not have voted for Joe Biden. A lot of people saying they regret it. I was hanging out at the poker tables a couple of weeks ago. And one guy said, I voted for Biden in 2020. Boy, was that a mistake? I'll vote for Trump now.
Starting point is 01:19:21 And I'm like, really? I was like, you're a liberal, conservative guy. And he's like, neither. I don't know. I just voted for Biden. Shouldn't have done it. I hope that's true at scale. But every single person that I know that hated Trump in 2016 hates him more now.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Like, they're way gone. All of them? I can't think of one single person that I know in my family, in my circle of friends, my friends' friends, not one person that i know uh has become uh interested in the idea of trump they hate him more you see this is anecdotal so i mean i don't know i mean mine is mine is that i know there are a couple people i know who just got more intense right there's there's there's they're gone there's no bringing them back but a lot of people i know who identify as like either moderate or lean left you know know, they were going to vote for Biden before,
Starting point is 01:20:05 but now they're like, well, I'm going to vote for Biden. Like the enthusiasm has gone out of it, right? There isn't the same level of like, we have to vote for Biden because it absolutely can't be Trump. They're like, well, I registered as a Democrat, so I should support that guy. But it's again, like I said, there's no love for Biden.
Starting point is 01:20:22 People aren't saying we really believe in his leadership. We really believe in his vision for the country. We know he will not trip upstairs again. You know what I mean? Like there's nothing about Biden's appealing except for the fact that they think they should be voting for him. And I think to that sense,
Starting point is 01:20:36 that complete irrational anger for some people has subsided. Maybe not for everyone, but I think it's changed. We'll see. I mean, we'll find out let's grab this one last segment from the post-millennial california moves to create genealogy office to determine who gets reparations ah yes we're going to track your genetics to figure out if you are the descendant of a free black person living in the united states uh prior to the end of the 19th century can i just say it like is anyone is anyone who's African-American like,
Starting point is 01:21:05 yes, U.S. government, we want to register with you. Like, that seems bad. That seems not good. To be like, please submit your genetic identity to the government. The California Senate Judiciary Committee has approved legislation that would establish a new cabinet-level agency tasked with carrying out the state reparation task force's recommendations. The California American Freedmen's Affairs Agency would be headed by a secretary appointed by the
Starting point is 01:21:29 governor and among other things, create a genealogy office to help determine who is eligible to receive as much as $1.2 million to make up for the injustices committed against their ancestors, per just the news. Absolutely amazing. We, uh, we were, we were talking on the culture war and I said, why don't we just give the federal, like all this West coast federal land as reparations? Why not? The federal government has seized a whole bunch of land is going unused. A lot of the land is being sold to China. Okay. Here's here. Here you go. Reparations solved. Everybody here's 40 acres acres and that will strip the federal government of a lot of its land ownership give it to american citizens granted it's a
Starting point is 01:22:11 compromise i'm not a big fan of the racial division stuff but you know there'll be a lot of white people who get it because they're descendants of slaves as well because you get this far down the line and there's going to be a guy who's white but does have a grandmother was a slave or something and i'm just like take the land from the federal government and see if I care. Yeah, the federal government's not going to give it up, though, right? I mean, California could give away state land. Instead, they're like, send us your genetic information and we'll make another bureaucratic agency and help you out with taxpayer money.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Like, I think you're right. There could be a simpler solution. Instead, they're like, more private information. That's what we need to solve this problem. But I mean, of course, our perspective is like, oh, no, no, we're not giving you anything. You guys are going to give each other what we say that you're going to. Yeah, you're right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Yeah. Way too logical. It seems not positive at all. Yeah. And of course, the government is malevolent, you know, at the state and local level. So, you know, I just going to solve this. It's it's the enclave. That's how I view it for those that are fans of Fallout.
Starting point is 01:23:09 It is a group of powerful individuals and they've separated themselves from the system and they're just doing whatever they want at this point. I don't know that. And they know how to use the power. Yeah. Right. They use the power.
Starting point is 01:23:22 People just fall in line. And that's all that matters for them, I guess. People will do whatever the government tells them to do. Trump supporters, conservatives will back the blue. We've talked about how CBP is facilitating child sex slavery. And we've had people come on this show and say, yeah, so what? And I'm like, well, it's not the officer's fault. It's the president's fault.
Starting point is 01:23:43 And I'm like, no, it's the guy who's transferring children into sex slavery's fault. But this is why I am surprised that they would even propose archiving a minority group's genetic material. Right. Like, why would anyone be OK with this unless you think you're really going to get something out of it? And also, when has California ever delivered on these promises? Right. It seems way more dangerous to the people involved. You know, they're putting a lot of private information at risk, especially if you use, I don't know, state health insurance. Like, there are all kinds of problems with this. And instead, they're dangling this sort of big payday out. I think only the government benefits from this. And I don't think anyone who honestly thinks that they could get
Starting point is 01:24:22 government money from this will see a dime. This is a state. I just had to look up the figure because it's changed. They've already squandered $10 billion on a speed rail that is never going to happen. Oh, yeah. But reparations are on their way. Don't worry. Just register with your race to the federal or to the state government and we'll figure it out.
Starting point is 01:24:42 And I'm being serious. Like, this is one of the things. Like, if you have, you know your genetic uh information could tell that you had a pre-existing condition could the state then say like oh well now you don't qualify for this type of health insurance or now we're going to do this or raise a specific tax like why would you give them any more information to level levy against you like especially when none of the money ever comes from any of these things. Just seems very dangerous to me. What I don't understand, it says descendants of a free black person
Starting point is 01:25:08 living in the U.S. prior to the end of the 19th century. So you can't like have immigrated here from, you know, any African country and then claim the money. Well, so if your ancestor was a slave in the year 1900, because, you know, they were still never released, then you don't get anything none for them none for them but uh well you gotta draw the line somewhere i mean well the thing is not made of endless money we're california this means that immigrants who came here in 1899
Starting point is 01:25:37 who were black and had kids but they were never slaves is the argument right they wouldn't qualify no they would a free black person living in the u.s prior to the end of the 19th century it initially stated they had to be chattel enslaved person now they're saying a free black person prior to the 19th so now more people qualify for reparations this seems worse this seems like i again i don't understand what problem they think they're solving other than potentially making, again, a minority group of people give them sensitive information, which I would be on high alert for. That sounds bad. But who am I to judge California and the all-knowing Governor Gavin Newsom?
Starting point is 01:26:18 He's doing a great job, I heard. No, they say that California is five years ahead of the rest of the country and that what happens in California eventually does hit the rest of the country, though. I think that's changed with the MAGA movement. I think this is I think Trump and Trump supporters is like the first time there's been a counter to the left abuse of power and expansion of cultural authority. And that's why they're really freaking out. Republicans are the Washington generals to the Democrats, Harlem Globetrotters. Maya comes along and all of a sudden you've got Washington generals dunking and actually
Starting point is 01:26:49 winning in the globe. Trotters are getting pissed me like, what are you doing? You're not supposed to be doing this. We got to get these players out of here. It's ruining the show. But you know, that's the trajectory of trajectory of things. And short of some shadow campaign, I don't know. Trump wins.
Starting point is 01:27:03 Do you think we'd ever get a Harlem Globetrotter to come on this show? Oh, I don't know. What do you think? Do you think Trump wins? I get concerned with how much it looks like he is winning to the extent that you want Trump to win. It's almost like, how is he so far ahead? Do you think people are going to get complacent
Starting point is 01:27:19 because they feel like it's in the bag? I think so. I don't know if you remember but in january of 2020 was it 2020 or january 2019 yeah january 2019 remember how on top of the world he was right he was so untouchable everybody i was meeting was saying they made more money in 2019 than at any point in their lives insane yeah right and so now you got him up in all these polls and whatnot and but who knows who knows like you said it's gonna be a long battle to to november when we were we were building out
Starting point is 01:27:51 our first studio for irl it was the uh beginning of january 2020 and i went to a furniture store and i was like we just need a table and chairs because i don't know what we're doing and uh i spent like five grand on buying all this stuff and And the lady was like, this is amazing. And she was super excited. She's like, thank you so much. I walked in the front door. I said, I want it. She was like, really?
Starting point is 01:28:10 Like, just like that? And she said, you know, this last year, I made more money than I ever have in my life. It was the best year. And I was like, wow, that's amazing. And inflation was low. Yeah. And then we had a guy doing landscaping.
Starting point is 01:28:22 And he said the same thing. My company's been booming. He's like, we've never made so much money before this has been fantastic hiring expanding i was like this is awesome and then march came and everything but think about it think about how low inflation was right when interest rates were so low i mean that was really in my opinion uh the magic sauce you know i'm in business day to day and you look at what happened starting in 2020 with these cost of goods sold you know the inputs the cost the inputs i mean people were just not making as much money anymore not just because of trump and stuff i think but or to the extent that you think that
Starting point is 01:28:55 trump wasn't response you know help lower inflation but it's not just earning more money it's also stuff costing you less yeah right i wonder if we get world war three before november i feel like the democrats would certainly prefer it they need they need anything it's mutually assured destruction though don't you think yeah but i kind of feel like if you're facing prison when donald trump sends the doj into your state to start ripping through the corruption you're you're gonna sink the whole ship you think he will use the doj this time uh i'm hopeful i lean slightly towards i think it's more likely especially with people like cash patel so you know what i think trump did in his first term was he tried to play ball i remember i was in dc around this uh around his you know when he became the front runner for the for the republicans he had this meeting and
Starting point is 01:29:43 you know we're hanging out me and some other journalists outside this building. I'm like, oh, Trump's inside talking with the Republicans. I bet he sat down and said, look, I'm going to be the nominee. We're going to work together on this one. Let me know what you need. And I think what happens is Trump gets in thinking, I'm the president. Now I can do things.
Starting point is 01:30:00 And the deep state slides the folder saying, here's what you're going to do. And he goes, no, we can't do that. It's a bad idea. And they're like, well, you have to. And he says, no, look, I promise we'd get our troops out of the middle East. We're getting our troops out of the middle East. And they said, you cannot do that. And he said, well, I'm the president. So I will. And then he leaves the meeting and the deep state goes, he's got to go. And that, and that was it. Trump made the mistake of bringing on a bunch of people. He should not have brought on because he thought he was playing ball and then they stabbed him in the back i think this time around especially with these criminal trials trump may not be the guy people want him to be this
Starting point is 01:30:34 paladin with a hammer smashing the the corruption but he he'll likely bring on some better people uh cash bill of course we've talked to him and you know we'll see where he ends up but uh i think second time around he's gonna bring on people who just say it's time to to clean this clean this mess up i'm looking then you got to clean up the local prosecutors too yep and that's and that's on everybody else you know so we've got we've got to do our work in berkeley county over in west virginia because they allow uh child drag shows jefferson county west virginia does not they outright banned it but the uh my understanding is that the uh what did they do they they did something recently with um they charlestown west virginia which is like the nearest city to us one of them there's also
Starting point is 01:31:25 frederick they had some kind of like declaration of lgbt pride month or something and i'm like in in jefferson county western charlestown like what happened and i was talking to a guy who was a council member and he said yeah the city council is dominated by democrats and i'm like how and he's like conservatives don't vote i'm, you have a conservative town in one of the most Trump supporting states, second most Trump supporting state in the country, where all of the Christians from a Latin mass went out like a thousand people protesting and they don't vote. Yeah, they don't vote. So the city council is dominated by woke far leftists who do whatever they want because the right does not organize. They not vote so then you have berkeley county where right next to our building where we're setting up our
Starting point is 01:32:09 casper coffee location they had a drag show in the street with children on stage and i complained to government and they were like we can't believe this is happening but even though it is illegal in west virginia i know the prosecutor in berkeley county doesn't care they allow it it is a violation of west virginia law to do what they did unquestionably jefferson county passed an ordinance outright saying like yeah you can't do that no no child drag shows and then in berkeley county which is just west they were just like man we don't care yeah totally allowed but that means you have to be active on every level of government right like it's not enough to get the state legislature you need to be active on every level of government, right? Like it's not enough to get the state legislature. You need to be in your local, you know, county, like everywhere.
Starting point is 01:32:48 And we're still in Jefferson County. You've got woke far leftists running for school board, getting into these schools and then bringing in gratuitous sex content to give to children. And then the kids aren't telling their parents or don't know. And the parents don't ask. So you've got weird pedo cultists coming in to conservative areas and infiltrating schools. And the conservative parents have no idea. And then one day I hear from a parent, they're like, my kid came home and said that they were, you know, pan or or something and it's like your 10 year old does not know what that means and they're like we know but how is this getting
Starting point is 01:33:29 into our schools and i'm like are you going to your school board meetings i'm like no there you go it's wild to me this idea that parents are like i have a child let's hand them off to the state i have no idea who these people are but here you go good luck i guess these strangers have no political agenda they only want what's best for everyone sure i was talking to a one of our friends don't even have kids no yeah one of our friends hate having kids and they don't want you to have kids yeah so one of one of our friends has several kids and he's talking about his kids are now at school age and he's sending sending them to school but he was like it's kind of weird
Starting point is 01:34:04 we don't know if we want to do it. It's like this idea that, well, we've had you for six years, but now we're going to hand you off and we're going to see you only a third of the time or something. That seems like a terrible idea. I think they're homeschooling now. Yeah. I mean, the thing is, homeschooling is not a joke. It's a lot of work.
Starting point is 01:34:20 On the other hand, public schools, you really don't know, right? Like maybe you might know if you live in a really small town, all the elementary school teachers, if you're kids in a really tiny school. But as they go through the system, the idea that you really know, have a social interaction with, go to the same church, use the same grocery store as a teacher in your kid's school becomes smaller and smaller. We have our kids in a Catholic grade school, and that's been the best thing that's happened because it's kind of locked down. You lock down with all the teachers. You know who's going in. You know who's going out.
Starting point is 01:34:52 And then some of our other friends, you know, they're at public schools. They have no clue who's going in and out of these things. So I'm not saying Catholic schools are the answer. I'm just saying it's, you know, you try to do whatever you can to protect them. Yeah. I mean, the people who suffer the most are the people who don't have other options right if you can't afford to enroll your kid in private school or you don't have the time or resources to homeschool you're stuck you are obligated to send your kid to school so you have to trust that somebody on your school board shares your values
Starting point is 01:35:17 and it's just it's an awful situation i'm gonna i'm just gonna offend as many people as i can uh super dude says tim's talking mad ish for someone with no kids pilgrim says tim most parents are busy at work and uh a few other people saying similar to tim doesn't have kids uh but i will give a shout out to keep grinding saying tim would be a good father thank you uh look man i'm sorry i get it the system is broken you're not supposed to give your kids away that's never been how humans have raised their children yes i get you're at work that's not supposed to be what's happening. We have to actively resist that. Kids need to be around their parents and learn from their parents. This is how humanity has survived for eons.
Starting point is 01:35:54 The children would learn from their parents. The blacksmith father, his son would watch him work. And then when his son was old enough, he'd say, hey, hand me that bag of bolts over there. Bring them over here, son. And then as the kid got older, he'd be like, let me show you how to do this thing and do that thing. And the kid would grow up and be a master blacksmith. And then the father would get old and say, son, I think it's time you took over the shop and started a family of your own. Or started a family of own well before he took over the shop. But then, you know, then he'd have kids. It has been for tens of thousands of years, children were raised by their parents.
Starting point is 01:36:28 And then at the turn of the century, in the 1900s, industrialization happened. And then all of a sudden, it was like, now that you're going to a factory, your children will be taken from you and handed to the state. And this is good. Now we're in a society where it's the expectation and I have no choice. I'm not saying it's easy, but you need to figure it out. And the parents aren't anywhere near, the father-in-law isn't anywhere near, the mother-in-law isn't anywhere near. That's a big component of it.
Starting point is 01:36:53 I mean, I have an amazing mother-in-law. I mean, if I didn't have her, I mean, not only who would be these strangers who would help raise the kids, but I mean, what happened to that family nucleus? And now everybody can live everywhere and you can get on airplanes and stuff. It's like, I don't think we understand the damage that a lot of these benefits in our society have done. No, I totally agree. There are, I can't remember which country, but I think a couple of Eastern European countries that offer tax credits or some kind of program to grandparents who will step in and offer
Starting point is 01:37:20 childcare or whatever else. So they could say, like America says, oh, well, we'll cover preschool, we'll cover daycare, but we don't say, well, you should be able to have your kids stay with, you know, an aunt who stay at home or a grandparent who has the time is retired. Like instead of encouraging families to stay together, it's like, well, just separate more, get involved in the public education system even sooner, right? That's a terrible way to, that's not my values. I think ultimately we want families to pull together and to be there for each other, no matter what that looks like. Well, speaking in very general terms, it's the millennial generation that has all these hangups about, you know, not having kids for the most part. And that's because we were raised by
Starting point is 01:37:56 the most entitled generation that's ever existed, the boomers. And I mean, and this is a trend that I see a lot. Like boomers, they don't have that sense of being a grandparent. I'm not talking about all boomers, obviously. There's going to be plenty of outliers. I hope everybody that's listening, their boomer parents are great. Great grandparents. You're afraid the boomers are going to come after you? Boomers made Star Trek The Next Generation, so.
Starting point is 01:38:16 I never saw it. They contributed. They contributed. But, you know, the fact is, is that boomers, they are the most entitled generation. They do not want to be there for their grandkids. At a scale that most people – I mean, this is like a meme at this point. And when you have that breakup from the grandparents, it impacts their kids and it impacts their grandkids. And it's unfortunate, but that's how it is for a lot of people, I'm afraid. We're going to go to Super Chat.
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Starting point is 01:39:05 uh, as we defend ourselves, just, you know, you become a member and, uh, YouTube of course has been crashing. As many people have been pointing out,
Starting point is 01:39:13 chat crashed and then reignited. So not much we can do there, but let's read your super chats. Clint Torres says, howdy people. Howdy Clint. Always with the first super chat. Uh,
Starting point is 01:39:24 Matthew Evans says, can Bill talk about what he is doing in St. Louis? Are you doing something in St. Louis? Yeah, we went into some of the worst areas for crime and we went and demolished a bunch of homes. I don't know if you saw that. Homes meaning decrepit homes, abandoned homes, cleaned up the neighborhoods, got it to look beautiful again. So going into inner city neighborhoods in america and cleaning them up right on i actually did that with of all people believe it or not jack dorsey wow i know that was kind of crazy to think of talk about two different people yeah and me but uh he funded it so that was very nice of him cool normies get out uh 49 months
Starting point is 01:40:01 a member wow is that for real i didn't even know that was possible. How long have we been doing this show for? He says it's all so tiresome. Often it is. It is. Mad Max says, Piers Morgan believes Trump going to Barron's graduation and going to jail for it would guarantee a landslide victory in November.
Starting point is 01:40:17 A lot of people have said that to me. I was talking to one guy earlier and I said, I don't know that Trump going to jail will get him a victory. And this is an apolitical guy. He i don't know i feel like if they arrested trump for that he'd just win and i was like really you think so it's like i i don't i don't know that it guarantees it i don't all right zaronis says new conspiracy theory after losing the american civil war democrats swore they would destroy america even if even if it took them 150 years or more to do so yeah jay keesey says tim wore a different shirt yeah it's a shirt that polti gave me thank you yeah yeah it's got the x philanthropy on it right there you can see i knew this would be
Starting point is 01:40:57 a sign of end times for some people tim tim changes his his uh outfit that doesn't happen often no he's pretty consistent when he wears. But you picked his favorite color, I think, or at least for clothing, black. Yeah. So the people in the chat that are saying we lost viewers, we didn't actually lose the viewers. The chat and the view count is broken on YouTube. And this happens periodically.
Starting point is 01:41:20 But I would not be surprised if YouTube is actively screwing with us as you know yeah probably you know it is what it is throughout the show hey it's an election year it's going to be fun so uh make sure you share the show with your friends and become a member at timcast.com let's go raymond g stanley jr says, Bloodbath is one of the best nicknames. Yep. Chris Bloodbath Carr. He had it first. Donald Trump started this nonsense.
Starting point is 01:41:51 What are you talking about? That was always your nickname. Oh, of course. Of course. Yeah. Nicholas says, How much did Trump pay you to push Truth Social stock? It's failing miserably.
Starting point is 01:41:59 I got to be honest. I was actually surprised by that. And the reason was, I did not think anyone actually bought the stock, thinking the company made sense that. And the reason was I did not think anyone actually bought the stock thinking the company made sense. So when the stock was being purchased, it seemed to me that Trump supporters were just buying it. So I have around 10 or so shares. That's right, 10, because they're like collectibles. I was like, oh, I'd like to have some. I did not invest any kind of substantive, but I was surprised. I didn't think that would happen.
Starting point is 01:42:25 I thought that Trump supporters were basically just buying it up because they liked Trump. As it turns out, I was wrong. And it was actually investors who were buying Trump Truth Social stock, which surprised me because I agreed with the Krasensteins when they said, does anyone really think that this company is worth this? And I'm like, yeah, the people who are buying it are just Trump fans. I agree. But then, no, it turns out the Krasensteins and I were both wrong. Actual investors bought stock and then dumped it. Wow.
Starting point is 01:42:55 That surprised the heck out of me. What more can I say? Oh, let's grab some more Super Jets here. Mega Mikey says, do we have any updates regarding the whistleblower that exposed NPR's woke takeover in the New York Post article? It was the Free Press article, actually. I heard NPR just suspended the whistleblower today.
Starting point is 01:43:13 That is correct. I believe they fired him, right? Suspended for five days, as of our reporting. That's what I read. Oh, that's it? Yeah, a little slap on the wrist. Yeah. And they said that it was because he published in another outlet without clearing it through them.
Starting point is 01:43:27 That's what they said. They didn't deny any of his claims. Like, it's true. We are pretty far gone. But anyways. It's funny that the woman who runs it, she was like, why are people calling me a Biden supporter? And there's a picture of her wearing a Biden hat. Biden hat and a mask.
Starting point is 01:43:43 Yeah. It's like, you can't prove anything. And then the prosecutor who's been arguing at the Supreme Court is like, look, it's true. We don't know. X Tin Man says
Starting point is 01:43:52 you should get together with a local brewery and make an Appalachian Knights coffee stout. Yes, we could. Yeah, we talked with one brewery about having our own brew. It's just, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:04 It's not a huge priority for us. The one thing that we did want to do is cast brew cold brew cans, but we're not there yet. We're not there yet. We'll get there. We'll get there. Flying Dog Brewery,
Starting point is 01:44:16 which I think is in Maryland, used to use Black Dog Coffee, which is local, for their coffee, which I always think is cool. It's cool to see those kind of local collaborations. Right on.
Starting point is 01:44:29 Nada Doc says, first Ryan Cohen withhen with javier melee and now this small world big wins diamond hands now i just need phil on unsubscribed podcast well there you go what do we got here jimbo says polty 2024 and then he says, what is this, Jimbo0341 for that 1,000? Are you going to run for office? We'll see. That was a long pause. He's going to run. Yep. Paul Tascolo says, the New York court can issue a bench warrant to Trump, which compels him to be present in the New York courtroom.
Starting point is 01:45:00 It wouldn't send him to jail. And what happens if he defies that bench warrant and says no? Can he Skype in? Could he Zoom into this this or does he have to physically be there i think this idea has to physically be there that seems very rude he should be able to like skype call in from baron's graduation yeah it's a punishment just political bs as any attempt by new york city to arrest trump or take his property while the Secret Service, while his Secret Service is flawed, anywhere a Secret Service is automatically designated federal ground superseding any local, they would be outside their purview. Rob says, Tim, what's your take on Agenda 2025? I see a lot of leftists ranting and raving about it.
Starting point is 01:45:41 What is that? What is that? I'm not a leftist. I don't rave about it. What is that? What is that? I'm not a leftist, so I don't really know about it. It's essentially a very long document that was put together by a bunch of policy makers that are saying that this policy is going to be Trump's policy
Starting point is 01:45:53 moving forward. It's very long. I mean, it's basically from a conservative think tank from a brief glance at it. It's very long, a lot of pages, and they're claiming that basically Trump is going to make the most far right-wing policies that they could possibly imagine. And Trump has not said, yes, this is the plan? I can't think of a moment when he's referenced this thing that the people on TikTok are decrying.
Starting point is 01:46:20 But I did look into it, and I did look over the document. I mean it's just – it's from a think tank basically. Do you think it's like, it's from a think tank, basically. Do you think it's like more radical and people are surprised? Or is it just like kind of whipping outrage? I think it's whipping outrage. From what I saw, it was pretty, I mean, moderate conservative at the best. Like it didn't have anything alarming in it that I saw. So don't worry, leftist.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Chris Carr, executive editor, says it's fine. Bloodbath. Bloodbath Carr. I apologize. How could I not use your correct pronouns? don't worry leftist chris carr executive editor says it's fine bloodbath bloodbath car i apologize king apollyon x says hey tim i don't think cops can actually justify arresting trump because i need to support my family if cops were fired they could easily get donations from trump supporters to support themselves that's true for every single cop who uh ever did something wrong and for some reason they don't do it like the cops who arrested arrested Daniel Penny and the cops who escorted him to and from court, the cops who arrested the Proud Boys.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Any one of them could have said, I refuse. But they don't because they don't care. It's a fascinating thing to me is that people assume cops are conservatives. And it's like they've never actually gone to New York City and talked to a cop because they're all just like middle of the road, moderate Democrat leaning people because they live in New York City. It doesn't matter if they're cops or not. They don't know or care. They just want to go home and watch the game. All right. Jake Swift says my girlfriend is in law school and said that most judges are previous prosecutors and DAs, which makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Innocent until proven guilty. We need more defense judges. Where is true justice? Yep. And the DAs and the judges know each other and they've worked together. So what are you going to do? It's a flawed system, I guess. It's better than a lot of systems, but it's breaking apart.
Starting point is 01:48:02 Jacob Hawley says the United States must not adopt the tactics of the enemy. Means are important as ends. Crisis makes it tempting to ignore the wise restraints that make men free. Agreed. Yes, the ends do not justify the means because you will never meet the end or you'll never meet the ends. Or yeah, right. The idea being that these communist revolutionaries are all like, well, if we execute all these people, then we'll get our revolution and then we'll get our beautiful country. And then once they take over, they say, we are still fighting to maintain the country. There is no end. There's no point at which you're like, hey, we're done. And then you sit down and just stare at your abundance of food and never have to work again. You are life is a
Starting point is 01:48:45 treadmill and you are going to be running on it forever until you die. And then your kids will run on it. And there you go. OMG puppy says the cops didn't arrest the proud boys. De Blasio's D.A. reopened the case weeks later to get them. And who do you think got them? And who do you think brought them in? And who do you think held them in cages? The D.A. did it all. The D.A. showed up in a suit with leather gloves and was like, the police have refused. So I'm taking you in, Proud Boys. Yeah, no, the Proud Boys went to the police,
Starting point is 01:49:12 told the police everything. If the Proud Boys did not talk to the cops, they wouldn't have got arrested. The DA would have said, who were those guys? And the cops have said, we have no idea. The cops cooperated every step of the way, told the DA everything he wanted to know so that he could hunt these people down and put them in prison.
Starting point is 01:49:26 That's not a hard concept, is it? Let's go. James Eaton says the courts are corrupt. Why follow the law? No, no, no, no. I respect following the law within reason. Just because it is law doesn't mean it's good. What the Nazis were doing was law and it was not good.
Starting point is 01:49:44 However, the issue right now is that they're not following the law. The charges against Trump are not legal. They made it up. They just made it up. And they do that in New York during Occupy Wall Street. It was really funny because the cops would point at the ground and go, that's frozen. You can't stand there.
Starting point is 01:50:03 That's what they would do. They would call them frozen zones. A made up concept that didn't exist legally anywhere. And this, and this, the police would just be like, we hereby have frozen this block. It's like, what does that mean? It's a frozen zone. You can't stand there. That's not a thing. And they would do that. You'd be standing next to someone and be like, uh, you're in a frozen zone. So you have to move. You'd be like, what? And they'll arrest you if you don't. They, they shut down portions of the city during Occupy. And you could only get through if you had proof, you had business or some reason to be on those blocks.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Which is crazy. Because I knew this guy who lived near the park. And the cops would block the street. And if I went, I'm going to my friend's house, they'd be like, no, you're not. You got to show us an ID or a piece of mail or something proving. Get your friend, have him come pick you up. And I'm like, that's insane. This is a public street.
Starting point is 01:50:47 I'm just trying to walk over that building. No. In your mind, what happened to Occupy Wall Street? I got taken over by activist organizations because I do blame partly, you know, to like a certain degree, I blame Steve Bannon. Not like directly, but a lot of these like populist right wing and Tea Party people fell for Fox News and Fox News gleefully smeared Occupy. When I was at Occupy Wall Street, when I was first there, it was libertarian, conservative, Democrat. It was just left right populist.
Starting point is 01:51:18 Everybody was mad at Big Banks. Everybody was mad at Obama. And then Hannity and other Fox News personalities go on TV and they say, it's a bunch of lefties. It's left, left, left. They're bad. And so then what happens is after the first weekend, when the conservatives who were there decided to go to work, leftist NGOs, paid staff showed up and said, we're going to start organizing now.
Starting point is 01:51:41 And people like, you know, Bannon and the Breitbart crew were like, screw those hippie lefties. We're not getting involved in that. I told Ben in this, I said, if you had showed up, shown up the first weekend to occupy wall street, they would have been clapping and cheering for you the whole time. It would have kept the conservatives and libertarians. They would have created a united populist front. Instead, what was born out of anger over the banking bailouts was taken over by NGO activists who began pushing critical race theory and intersectionality, and it pushed out everybody else. I knew one guy who was an anarchist. He wasn't like a left, just an anarchist, just, you know, hey, no government. And it was so fascinating that something called the General
Starting point is 01:52:22 Assembly, everybody would gather around and they would try to buy things with donations. And it was direct democracy. Everybody would either agree with twinkle fingers. And this is what happens when conservatives don't show up. The far left activists turn it into a twinkle, twinkle, twinkle finger party. And, uh, the people who controlled the money didn't like how things were going because it was very hard to spend things. The example I love is when it would rain, the clothing and the supplies would get destroyed. So someone said, we need plastic bins to store them in. So they go to a general assembly meeting and someone says, I propose we buy bins to store our blankets and clothes and extra stuff in so the rain doesn't destroy them. All in favor?
Starting point is 01:53:02 Everybody wiggles their fingers. A few people put up what's called a block. Hard block must be adjudicated. What is the block for? And someone said, plastic destroys the environment. We cannot do that. And then they debated it. And someone said, okay, what if it's recycled? It's okay. Well, if you're recycling, that's good, I guess. Right. It already exists. So we'll buy recycled used. Okay. Agreed. And then someone raised block. What is it now? Yes. But did it originate fair trade? What, what was this product made by exploitation? Cause if it is, it should be destroyed. Okay. So we will buy bins that are recycled and fair trade. Well,
Starting point is 01:53:36 that's impossible. You can't find them. So what did they do? They went to Walmart and bought bins. They, they ignored the will of the people. So they tried creating something called the Spokes Council that would segment everything into a few delegates from different pockets. So if you worked in the sanitation team, you'd send one representative to the Spokes Council to speak on your behalf. The only problem with that is that instead of making the vote based on the work you did, like computers or sanitation or food they added race and gender so they made the black the mexican the asian there was no white group then they made the women's
Starting point is 01:54:12 caucus but then there were problems because some women didn't want trans people in the women's caucus so they created two women's caucuses the the women's with no trans and the women's trans and then people were turf well they didn't call them a turf group because they were but then what ended up happening was you had these groups all voting on how to spend money based on their race or gender which clearly doesn't make sense i think uh the best way to explain it is there's this comic where this rich guy says send in identity politics it's like a bunch of people with protest signs outside of a building. And then he's on the phone and he says, introduce them
Starting point is 01:54:49 to identity politics. And that was it. All of these people were complaining about how our taxes were being ripped off. And it's funny to me how, how easily the conservatives were played like fiddles by Fox news. They, so the Occupy had, I am the 99%. And then you got this rebuttal from the right, I am the 47%. The fascinating thing is I met Luke Radkowski at Occupy Wall Street. He's a libertarian. He's an anarchist. And so you have an eclectic bunch of people of varying political ideologies angry at the federal government for stealing taxpayer dollars. And the people who watch fox news marched in lockstep to denounce it instead of joining in and if they did they probably would have won it probably would have been massive political change enough people in
Starting point is 01:55:32 this country but instead the likes of breitbart the tea party ignored and insulted it hannity made fun of them every single day people you know the funny thing is when the when the networks brought people on to talk about it they made sure only far leftists were brought in to to speak about what Occupy was. So instead of getting the 65 year old guy waving the American flag, they brought in the 23 year old college student to say, I deserve free stuff. And Fox News would do that. that imagine what would happen if fox news brought on a 65 year old guy with white hair and sunglasses with an american flag being barack obama ripped us off bailed out these banks and it's his fault that would have been a very different narrative for occupy wall street but i don't know fox probably wanted the ratings i don't like fox news as it is we'll read some more super chats here delaware x says fascinating i mean that's not something
Starting point is 01:56:25 that's very talked about what happened with occupy wall street oh what i what i love so much about it is that the uh the history of occupy is all fake because the people who wrote books about it romanticize and lie to push their narrative and it's just absolutely fascinating i mean it was abject corruption at occupyupy the entire time. There were people who lived in the park as part of the protest who had buckets and were raising money. The NGOs and the Brooklyn College students who didn't live in the park put out messages and flyers saying, do not give these people money. They're not Occupy Wall Street because they wanted to control the flow of money. So when people online raise donations, which who controls Occupy? Nobody does. It was, it was a week, people sleeping in a park and there were various people
Starting point is 01:57:10 raising money for various things they wanted to buy. One group online was like, we're going to buy stuff. And so they started telling everyone, those are, that's a scam. That's not us. It's a scam. We're in charge. And then I'm talking to him like, you're not in charge. You're just some random dude who's asking for money. They're asking for money too. They put up signs saying, do not give, if I don't ask you for money, don't give it to him. Only give it to us. It was just super corrupt. It got to the point where the people who lived in the park, they called themselves the general union and they opposed the general assembly. And then when the general union, which was the west side of the park, wanted to have a meeting, NGO staffers sent guys to threaten violence against them. And one of the dudes started crying. It was wild. And so I met these guys because I was filming and they're like, hey, we're going to have a meeting because they're they're telling everybody that we're scammers and we actually sleep in the park. They don't. They're like rich college kids and trust fund kids and like people who work for nonprofits. And I'm like, cool, I'll film it. And when they had the meeting, quote unquote,
Starting point is 01:58:08 facilitators, they called themselves, showed up and they do their cult thing. It's so brilliant how they've mind warped people. When someone said, we're here to have a meeting about spending, facilitators walked up and went, Mike, check. Everyone yells, Mike, check. What? Anytime anyone who opposed them tried to speak, they would yell mic check and everyone would just repeat it, shutting down the conversation because it's a cult.
Starting point is 01:58:31 That's what they do. Yeah, Occupy was wild. And then they go, Tupou's lie, that never happened. Actually, the Daily Show did a segment about this where they talked about the divide from the East and the West, the rich and the poor.
Starting point is 01:58:42 So the people who organized Occupy have a vested interest in lying and pretending these things work to advance their political ideology when they don't actually work. All right, we'll grab some more super chats. Triton 54 says if Trump fails to attend the SCOTUS hearing, it will communicate he'd rather complain about corruption rather than challenge it. Second term will be the same as the first. He'll lose my vote. Yeah, I wonder. I feel that for sure. If Trump is unwilling to go to the Supreme Court to defend the presidency and this country, and instead he goes, well, the judge told me he'll put me in jail. That says to me that Trump fears jail more than the collapse of this country.
Starting point is 01:59:24 That's why I'm like, Trump has to go to the Supreme Court. He has no choice. This is a question of the president's authority in their official duties. And this judge is saying, I'll hold you in contempt. You'll go to jail for 30 days. So what's scary to Trump? The end of the executive branch and the fabric of this nation or 30 days in jail. If Trump skips SCOTUS, it shows that he's worried more about his personal comfort than he is about this country.
Starting point is 01:59:52 It's tough. It's a tough position, I suppose. I don't know what to tell you. All right. Let's just grab a couple more. Eldridgeinator says, hey, Tim, they're 2020 electioning your views. They are. But notice the rate of chat it's not an easy verb 2020 electioning yeah but also just so you guys know like this thing with view count happens yeah a couple times a year like you the chat crashed
Starting point is 02:00:21 and then youtube has problems so here it is what is we can see in the back end that everything's remained actually fairly normal uh while it's displaying 488 viewers right now i can see on the back end that we're probably at like i don't know 35 000 we were at like 38 at the peak of the show i'm not i'm not super worried about youtube uh oh look at this amtra says youtube is being hacked down Down detector listing 10,000 issues. Interesting. Drew Badley says YouTube pushed an update a couple hours ago and they broke it for peak evening hours. Intentional or not, big L
Starting point is 02:00:53 move. This happens all the time. That's YouTube, man. Oh, look at this. Someone said they were unsubscribed by force. What's likely happening is that YouTube broke. They do this. Like I said, it happens a couple times a year and then you'll wake up tomorrow and it'll be like you won't even notice but uh i wouldn't be surprised if it's a political move too like the idea is shake some uh subscribers off by force
Starting point is 02:01:17 and then people will just you know casual viewers will stop getting the notifications and stop watching i'm not super worried about it, though. What you can do right now, if you are concerned, is smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com because we're going to have that members-only show coming up. And we usually do about 4,000 people on the members-only show, too. So we can easily track the numbers and all that stuff. Because we use Rumble for the Members Only Show
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Starting point is 02:02:31 Yeah. Thanks for coming, Chris. Yeah. This YouTube thing just everyone knows is actually going on for like everyone, like Moist Critical and stuff are having the same problem right now. So it's definitely an update. I also want to stress this. So we have a 30 second commercial where it's just me saying, hey, if you want to watch
Starting point is 02:02:44 a show on culture, news and politics, Monday through Friday, live APM, subscribe to Timcast IRL. They called it an election ad. It is not. So I challenged it. It gets denied. So I create a new ad and I'm like, let's try again. They call it an election ad. I challenge it. It gets denied. I escalate it to a human and they say, this is strange. We've reviewed your commercial. It is not an election ad. Give us a second. A few minutes later, they come back to the chat and they're like, okay, we're going to have to get back to you on this one. I'm like, how very weird. And, uh, then they eventually emailed me finally today saying, we're so sorry. We've approved the ad. It's literally just 30 seconds of me being like, watch Tim cast IRL Monday through Friday, eight, you know, 8 PM subscribe, click here.
Starting point is 02:03:27 That's all it is. A lot of people mentioned that they get unsubscribed from the channel. This is true more so than most other channels. And you'll notice this is evidence, evident, uh, evidenced by take a look at the viewer count that we get for the live show and the, and the live episodes compared to other podcasts and the subscriber count. And then you can see it clearly in the chat. I know they do this. I think the strategy they have is unsubscribe as many people as possible from the channel so that casual viewers drop off and stop watching. The only problem is our audience is a dedicated
Starting point is 02:04:00 audience that shares and watches the show all the time. And that's why we have so many messages and emails from people being like, I've been forced unscribed again for like the fifth time because people have chosen to watch the show. So it really must grind the gears of people at YouTube that whatever they've done in their system that inhibits us isn't as effective as the show is just good. Now, that being said, the reason why I bought the commercial is we don't really do marketing and never did. It's always been organic growth. And I've talked with other industry people in media
Starting point is 02:04:30 and they're like, if you did basic marketing on top of the fact that your show grew organically this fast, you'd probably be one of the biggest shows outside of YouTube
Starting point is 02:04:38 as well as YouTube. And I was like, okay, well, we'll try something. I don't know. I don't, you know, I don't know. I'm not super concerned about it, but let's see what we can do. Um, all right, everybody, we're going
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