Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1006 YouTube NUKES TimcastIRL Deleting Biggest Shows, Veiled Threat Of PERMANENT BAN

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

Tim, Ian, & Serge join Phil Labonte to discuss YouTube deleting Timcast's most viewed episodes, police arresting Google employees for staging an anti-Israel protest inside their boss' office, how clou...d seeding may be to blame for the historic floods in Dubai, and the creepy new robot unveiled by Boston Dynamics. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And it is beginning today. We got a notification from YouTube that our two biggest episodes featuring Joe Rogan, Michael Malice, Alex Jones, and many others had been removed for retroactive policy enforcement. I spent some time on the phone with Google angrily discussing this. And there's a lot to break down in this but um it's an election year and so three years and and for one of the episodes longer than three years four years but between three and four years after these shows had already aired and they had no policy violations they come back and make up fake reasons as to why these episodes are being removed from YouTube, what they told
Starting point is 00:00:46 us effectively said to me, we cannot be on YouTube. My only options would be to delete and purge every single show and clip from this YouTube channel based on what they told me. And then they said, no, no, no, no, don't do that. But we'll get into all the finer details as we begin to talk about. There's a lot to break down. I'm going to get into the dirt and grime of how the business operates, why we do the things we do,
Starting point is 00:01:13 what our moves are going to be going forward. I've already had discussions with some top men, top men. And I think everyone's going to be very very very excited as to what this means because youtube basically just said we don't want you we don't like you get the out so uh let me let me save the greater details for the actual segment because we're doing the intros but we do have a lot of other news uh biden i guess is claiming that uh something happened with the plane crashes was uncle or something got eaten by cannibals almost almost all right we got a mixer we get politics in there i don't know that there's anything too uh tremendous politically
Starting point is 00:01:49 but i think the biggest story actually was bloomberg writing that do the uae's attempt at weather manipulation resulted in mass flooding which is wreaking havoc on the country and now you've got all these articles popping up from the left like, no, it's a conspiracy theory. Weather modification did not cause the great flooding. Yeah, they were cloud seeding. And according to Bloomberg, the cloud seeding made these floods substantially worse. Major backfire
Starting point is 00:02:16 in government weather manipulation, I guess. So we'll talk about that as well. And then we have this viral video where children staged a walkout of their school complaining that furries have litter boxes in the bathrooms. The guy filming the video says, I heard that was a rumor. That's not true. And they're like, no, they're there. Now we've not confirmed this independently. So I think it's important to take all that
Starting point is 00:02:35 information with a grain of salt, but I really don't believe someone orchestrated 70 children leaving a building and lying about something that seems like a conspiracy theory. And Occam's razor would suggest these kids are pissed off about furries in their school and litter boxes in their bathroom. So we'll talk about that before we do. Ladies and gentlemen, head over to cast brew dot com. Why? Because they're trying to ban us by our coffee.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I guess we got big plans for Casper coffee. We want to build physical locations all over the country. We have a physical location being built right now in Martinsburg, West Virginia. It's not so much about coffee. It's about the third place, somewhere you can hang out, meet like-minded individuals, share an honest cup of joe, and talk about ideas and get organized and build community. Something that is tremendously antithetical to the authority establishment plans. They want you living in a pod, eating the bugs in virtual reality, and we want to resist that. Now, the coffee establishment plans. They want you living in a pod,
Starting point is 00:03:26 eating the bugs in virtual reality. And we want to resist that. Now the coffee's delicious. Don't get me wrong. But I recommend you buy it. Appalachian Nights, everybody's favorite. We are now sold out of re-rise with Roberto Jr. But there's going to be a small limited batch popping up of 700 bags.
Starting point is 00:03:40 We're going to be selling those about seven bucks each just to move them because we had the extra bags lying around. So we're going to brew some of the fresh coffee, but it is good coffee. It's my favorite Appalachian nights, of course, the best. And when you buy Casper coffee, uh, the, the money that we're getting from, we're not, we're not taking any profits or anything out right now. Hopefully in the future, it's a big profitable company. It's all being reinvested in setting up these physical locations in Martinsburg. If you're a member of timcast.com elite club,
Starting point is 00:04:04 that is you click join us and it's 100 bucks a month you're going to get a key fob you're gonna be able to walk up to the building in the secret side entrance and boop your way right on in walk upstairs and hang out in the club that's our plan for the private club but become a member at timcast.com for 10 bucks a month and you'll get access to our discord server where you can hang out and chat with like-minded individuals and network digitally it's not perfect but but it's better than nothing. And you'll get access to our members-only uncensored shows where you can even call in if you are a member. Now, more importantly, I think it's important to stress that this show right now, if it weren't for Timcast members,
Starting point is 00:04:40 it would not exist. The cost of flying out guests, putting up people in hotels, paying for the drivers and the coordination and all that stuff is very expensive. So we are only able to do this because you guys are members. So naturally when YouTube effectively declares war on us and there's a lot of breakdown in that, there's a great risk. And so, uh, obviously we have options. There is a demand for great media shows like ours, and many people are interested. And YouTube is interested in destroying their company and brand. Fine, whatever. We'll see what happens when TikTok gets banned, I guess.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Maybe YouTube's not worried about it. But I strongly request y'all become members because you'll get access to our uncensored show, a bunch of other bonus stuff. You'll get to watch live spaces with Josie, if you're a fan of Josie's. And we've got many more stuff. We've got a couple documentaries. We'll be releasing those on multiple platforms soon as well. But become a member.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Hang out in the Discord. We got more member stuff we're working on. I think the physical locations are going to be a blast. Don't forget to also smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. And don't forget to subscribe on Rumble at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL. I think that's our URL, right?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Let's check it out. We'll make sure we got that one right. And follow me personally on X at Timcast. Those are going to be very important because next week we'll be moving to a new studio. I won't say much more beyond that, but follow us in those places if you catch my drift unfortunately today we did have a guest um there was an uh a medical emergency so instead phil
Starting point is 00:06:13 labonte is the guest how you doing everybody my name is phil labonte i'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that remains i'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary i was like we have no guest phil's famous phil's in the chair i followed your work for a long time i'm glad you're here i appreciate it and uh uh and then in third chair we have mr bocus what a great cat it's a painting of mr but it's how what are the eyes really nice job josie yeah i called everybody i was like oh man you know um these things happen it's rare it's rare but it happens last minute you know and so uh then you got the animal surge that just steps up every chance every moment yeah we'll just we'll just make sure to talk more tonight extra fine a night by the way thanks yeah appreciate it people watch like people watch the show i mean
Starting point is 00:06:53 the guests are obviously it's great to have the guests and stuff like that to get a different perspective but people really do watch the show because you're a guest well thank you very much yeah it's kind of like what are you doing do in your normal life? This show, this show? I was trying to get Richie Jackson to come. Actually, the first person we tried calling was Libby. And I was like, we'll just see if Libby can come in and fill in the seat because she comes in all the time. And she was unavailable.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And I was like, I know who needs to come on the show. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Oh, that'd be great. He was too far away. He wasn't able to make it. I was like, that actually would be a really great show.
Starting point is 00:07:23 It was so awesome. Everybody knows him. He's so funny yeah and uh and he works here i don't speak at the ex-marine is right police no no not a former former marine yeah oh that's a different word you use well you're not you're never not a marine once you're a marine you're always a marine so there's a former because you were you know you were sir in service and you're when you're not in service and you can be called a former marine but i was calling richie jackson too i was like you know he's a wild crazy guy but everybody just was like man it was a perfect storm of everybody dipping yeah what a crazy day yeah really uh serge is pressing the buttons or ian's here too oh yeah hello hi welcome let's do this i love the
Starting point is 00:07:57 meta shows where we talk about like the show beneath the show like oh here we go i mean we're gonna talk about nitty-gritty i'm gonna i'll i'll i'll break down everything for everybody i mean i typically do i wonder if we are like the most transparent of shows when it comes to how shows run among them let's jump to this story from the post-millennial so uh earlier today i was working out i had a great mini ramp session uh i would say i'm around 20 of my capabilities i haven't skated mini ramp in a very long time and uh richie and i were getting getting the session going i burned 1600 calories it was glorious then i went to physical training and i almost passed out because i was really pushing it i heard you were talking about like your blood pressure was like you felt like you
Starting point is 00:08:37 were gonna or no your your your watch was telling you that you maxed out yeah yeah yeah i had about 33 minutes of vo2 max and then as soon as this i get a message from dane our social media guy and he's like hey take a look at this and it says your videos have been removed so two of the biggest the two biggest timcast irl shows on youtube were deleted both today three years after they aired for with retroactive policy enforcement that they claim were always in effect but only now they decided to remove the biggest episode on youtube of course was joe rogan alex jones blair white michael malice uh me i believe luke luke rukowski was there uh ian was there was there it was a massive show in austin in this trailer. Joe Rogan pulls up to our to our big trailer mobile studio and he comes in and we're like, let's roll. And we had like 160,000
Starting point is 00:09:32 concurrent viewers. Massive. There's no policy violations. We talked about things everybody always talks about. We're very, very strict on this show. You guys know we've deleted episodes live during the show and we've been working on engineering a dump button, which basically means if there's ever a policy violation, we hit a button and then it basically there's a delay so that whatever violated the rules never appears and we don't have to take the show down anymore. So we built all this. Show's deleted. The other episode was the Michael Malice, Alex Jones episode, which was our second biggest,
Starting point is 00:10:04 which we did after they took down the first one. Alex Jones and Michael Malice Alex Jones episode, which was our second biggest, which we did after they took down the first one. Alex Jones and Michael Malice came on the show. It was hilarious and fun. They deleted it and gave us a warning. I think, I don't know if we got it. I don't think we ever got a strike from it. No, we didn't. We got a warning from it.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And the warning was on the channel for two or two and a half years. As soon as this happened, I'm on the phone for two or two and a half years. As soon as this happened, I'm on the phone with Google and they're saying, we can't tell you what the policy violation was. And I'm like, how are we supposed to do better and fit your terms of service if we have no idea what you're mad about? And they're like, too bad. I said, okay.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I meet. So I had all of these people messaging and commenting, being like, oh, you're babies. You took the episode down, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I called Michael Melson. Alex Jones said, guys, can you come back immediately and do the show again? They want to take down our episode and they won't tell us why. We'll do the show again. And so a week later, Alex and Michael came back.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And that was at the time our biggest episode ever. The Try Me YouTube episode. I can only assume they were not happy we did that. But I got to tell you, before we even had Alex Jones on, I emailed our liaison at Google and said, what are the rules pertaining to Alex Jones? Is he allowed to be a guest on shows? And they said, absolutely. And I said, okay, you guys have no issue with this then? I said, no, no, he just can't have his own channel. I said, done. They deleted the episode. They found whatever reason. We did the show again. No problems.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Over the past several years, I've actually spoken with people at Google and they said they were great episodes. They were fine. I've had people be like, oh, my friends work at YouTube. They're big fans. I've had people who work at YouTube tell me I love watching the show every night. They took down our two biggest episodes at the same time. One, they claimed we promoted QAnon. That is, I say defamation. I've never promoted QAnon. I mock people who are promoting QAnon. When people on
Starting point is 00:11:52 the show ever mention anything about it, we say that's silly nonsense. They claim that we had some kind of vaccine medical misinformation. So you didn't get a strike on that one, but it's okay. Here's what this means. I'm on the phone with Google. Immediately after this happened, I get an email and they're like, we just want to let you know we took these episodes down. And I said, three years after these episodes aired, you're now claiming a policy violation. And they were like, well, it was always against the rules. And I said, okay, here's what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I will instruct my social media guy right now to delete every single video of the Tim Cast IRL channel. We will air the episodes and a week later, delete them from the platform. We will put the clips up and a week later, delete them from the platform because that is the only thing we can do based on retroactive policy enforcement. If you tell us what we're doing is fine and we we behave in that way for three years i've got a thousand episodes i said we've got 1006 episodes probably about 990 are on youtube plus every single clip which is three to six clips per episode and you tell us what we did on that show was fine for three years
Starting point is 00:12:59 that means from that point on till today we did the exact same things we did in that episode how many episodes am i supposed to go through now to figure out if they violate the rules? And I was told by the person at Google, well, I don't know of any other episodes where this is an issue. And I said, sure. And you didn't know for three years this episode was an issue. So my only option then is to delete every single show off the platform or you're going to ban us.
Starting point is 00:13:24 What they effectively told me was in it. No, no, it's fine. You're fine. And I said this. Okay. Then someone at the highest level of you, of Google or YouTube came down to you guys and said, delete those episodes. I don't want them on the platform. Make up a reason. And you're telling me it's fine and we're not going to get banned because, you know, it's political. And it was someone at Google who ordered the shows to be removed. If that is not the case, then you have retroactively placed policy enforcement actions against us, which leaves me with no alternative but to delete every video off this channel.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Otherwise, at any moment we could be banned. And they said, no, no, I don't know. I can't tell you that. Okay, great. You can't. Well, I immediately made some calls to top men who I will not reveal. We have big plans coming up for the studio move, which is taking place this weekend. A lot of people have said, Tim, go to Rumble. Tim, go to Rumble. Well, you know, we're on Rumble. And then people ask us why the live show isn't on Rumble. The live show is the biggest driver of memberships at TimCast.com, which is the only way we're able to do all of this. If we downsized and became like a digital over-the-air show where we just Skype people in and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Sure, that shaves off a ton of money from our budget and we could make things a lot cheaper. But I think one of the things that makes the conversations on the show work better, and I've talked to a lot of people in the industry about it, and everyone agrees is in-person conversations in real life. Well, I don't want to do that. That means right now, based on how much it costs to run this show, drivers, staff, hotels, et cetera, the amount of members we have is maintaining. The amount of memberships we have is at a decent amount where we make a little bit more every month than we spend on the show, which gives us the ability to invest in other projects.
Starting point is 00:15:24 My concern when I talk to all these other big companies and they're like, we want Timcast IRL live here, here or here or otherwise, is that the clips don't drive a lot of memberships. The live show does, because once we wrap the live show, we say, hey, the show continues at Timcast dot com, become a member to watch the members only uncensored. With that, we are maintaining a slight growth. We have a slight uptick a little bit in how many members we have, but we don't grow a whole lot. It's very slow and steady. And this means based on the model we have, the show can continue. If we were to stop doing live on YouTube the way we are,
Starting point is 00:16:02 divide it up to other platforms. We run the risk of deranking. We run the risk of losing a large portion of what funds the show, driving new members. And then we become a sinking ship. We would have to start firing staff, cutting corners, reducing investment in projects. Possible. We could do that. I'd prefer not to. So the conversations we've had with other big networks has been, can you cover the costs of how much we make through YouTube and ad revenue so that if we make this move and we lose money, we stay afloat for at least a certain amount of time. And typically the answers have been, I don't know, maybe, I don't know if we want to do that. And I say, okay, well then we're going to keep doing what we're doing on YouTube because the live show
Starting point is 00:16:49 generates the memberships that make the show work. It's that simple. I'll let you guys in on another, I don't know if it's a secret or whatever. Inside baseball. Inside baseball. I'm a big fan of Rumble. I'm friends with Chris Pavlovsky. He's a great dude. We use Rumble infrastructure for timcast.com. We use Parallel Economy for our memberships. We are absolutely utilizing their infrastructure and they make money from it. We make money from it because we want to build the parallel economy. But there is a reality when Rumble launched and we split our clips from YouTube to Rumble, we lost probably 40% of the revenue we got from YouTube because as much as Rumble is great and we want Rumble to exist and we want to be on Rumble, we don't make ad revenue off those videos.
Starting point is 00:17:26 So when a video normally got $80,000 to $100,000 on YouTube, we would make a couple hundred bucks. Now the video on YouTube gets $50,000, $60,000 and on Rumble gets $30,000. That means we lost all of that ad revenue. So we have to maintain memberships. We can't just shut down and switch to rumble because then we'd have to start laying people off and shrinking the ship. Don't want to do that. We are currently having conversations with some other companies. Now that YouTube has made these moves, there is renewed interest in how we can make these changes. I don't want to say too much because business negotiations are
Starting point is 00:18:00 ongoing, but there are some potentially big moves that may happen based on this. I think what we're seeing with YouTube is a few things. Just yesterday, many people noticed the view count on the show was going all wild and crazy, but that wasn't unique to us. It affected tons of other YouTubers and channels that were noticing weird issues pertaining to live and view count. And the day before, something similar happened. View counts crashed on a bunch of videos and people were like, whoa, my video didn't get any traffic.
Starting point is 00:18:25 It was not unique to any one channel. Something must have happened at YouTube with a policy change. Now there's retroactive enforcement. I don't think it's a coincidence that around the same time, two episodes are nuked instantly. Maybe some new guy came in. Maybe they hired a new person. Who knows? Have no idea.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I told Google, I cannot run a business if this is how you treat your business partners. This is an F you to me and a threat. They issued a warning on our channel requiring us to take a class to better understand how we broke the rules. But we didn't break any rules. Not a single rule was broken. They lied. They're liars. And so I said, if you email me and say, due to this, that, or otherwise, we're going to remove these videos from your channel. Don't worry. No effect to you.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I would grumble and complain. But when you issue a warning on my channel, you are saying we are prepared to ban you permanently. We are prepared to take you down for a week. The next time this happens with any one of your videos from the past four years, it could happen. We are prepared to permanently ban you. If we can find three more videos over the past four years that we can interpret as breaking
Starting point is 00:19:36 the rules, your show is permanently banned in every respect off of YouTube. So I said, what should I do then? The only thing I can do is delete every single video. And then they will know that you can't do it. I don't think it's a coincidence that it's 2024. We knew things were going to get crazy this year. And now YouTube has taken such an extreme and drastic action, such as a three year retroactive enforcement.
Starting point is 00:20:00 So there's a couple of things we can do. We'll have more information on Monday. We have big plans. We're moving into our new studio on Saturday is the big opening party and skate jam and contest. Friends and crew and friends of the show are going to be there. We're going to be eating catering courtesy of Dutch's daughter. We're huge fans. They're a great restaurant in Frederick, Maryland.
Starting point is 00:20:22 They make some of the best food and uh that will be the the opening party that means monday the show will be live from the new studio and i'm just so excited because the cameras look so good there's no more color issues and everyone looks a lot sexier so it's going to be great you look everyone will look very thin with these cinematic beautiful cameras uh we're also going to be planning a change to how we broadcast the show. But considering what just happened, there are some business happenings behind the scenes. I'd have no problem telling everybody literally what those plans are and what we're negotiating on. But because it involves third parties who are negotiating as well, it's a violation of their privacy. I won't do that. There may be some great news on Monday,
Starting point is 00:21:05 though, and it could benefit this show in many ways. And then I think following this, what we're going to do is ramp up marketing in ways we've never done before. So with YouTube taking this attack against us, we have a couple, we have a couple, there's a couple of things we can do. Here's a secret. It's not really a secret. I've mentioned, I've mentioned this before. What I pay myself in terms of a salary comes from the Tim Pool Daily Show, which is youtube.com slash Timcast News. That show alone generates me personally produced by me 99%. I say 99% because sometimes someone who works here might send me something and there's,
Starting point is 00:21:43 there's moderate assistance, but I wake up, I sit down, I reach out the news, I monologue, I make a million dollars a year. It is just above a million bucks off of that morning show alone. If I did not do Timcast IRL, I would work a regular shift, have the rest of the day for family and travel. I could do the show literally anywhere in the world with my girlfriend. I could live in the mountains and we the world with my girlfriend. We could, I could live in the mountains and we could ski all year round and do whatever. And I have to worry about it. Tim cast IRL does generate profit and it does generate hard assets. And these things
Starting point is 00:22:14 do benefit my net worth. I don't want to pretend that's not the case. I don't pay myself a salary based off what is coming from Tim cast IRL. However, the, the, the overwhelming majority of the money basically covers the cost of everyone's salaries, travel equipment, all of these things. Again, I stress the equipment and all that does add to my net worth. I'm not going to lie about that, but I'm not, I'm not doing this and I'm not making money from this. This is just something that is fun to do. That is important. I enjoy doing, I enjoy bringing people here. I think it's beneficial across the board. And then the small amount of excess revenue that we get basically invests in these other projects. So we've got
Starting point is 00:22:49 Pop Culture Crisis, of course. We've got Shane Cashman's Inverted World Show that we're building. We've got the Booneys Skate Show that we're building. And I will stress, the Booneys stuff is very, very expensive, but most of the cost is the building of a new studio for the sake of Timcast IRL. So what we need to do is there's two options. I just say, wow, they got us. We've lost. Why am I even dealing with these headaches? We're getting sued.
Starting point is 00:23:19 All of this nightmarish stuff for something that doesn't personally make me money that I can go spend on vacation at casinos and things like that. Again, I'll stress like there's profit and there's, there's a net worth gain, but it's, it's like the exponential workload compared to how much you make. It's just, I could work in the mornings and Tim pool show and make a million bucks a year and then sell sponsorships and even make more and not have to think about it. Or here's what else we can do. We can work a deal with a, uh, I don't want, I don't want to say too much because it's, it's going to be up to them when we, when we do finalize a deal, but third parties and then attack this thing through massive marketing campaigns and, uh, basically make it a point, a point that YouTube is not safe for your business.
Starting point is 00:24:11 If you try to start on YouTube, they will with no warning and with no reason. And everyone already knew this, but let's stress this. They will destroy your company overnight. We have to build a parallel economy. And so that's the attack factor we're going to take as of next week. Hopefully we'll have more information on this as to what we're doing in terms of parallel economics and how we're going to support, fund the show and grow the show with, uh, in defiance of, of YouTube's ridiculous and insane retroactive enforcement. And hopefully we will plant the seeds. Nay, I should say we will water the trees that have already been planted by other great people working hard on this. Namely, uh, those that these other social media networks shouted to, uh, rumble, of course, to, to that these other social media networks shout out to uh rumble of course to to bill ottman mines shout out to elon musk and uh we
Starting point is 00:24:49 will water those trees that have already been planted and then we will supplant and displace the corrupt and crooked establishment that breaks the rules for their own personal benefit and politics so that's the gist of my rant and And there you go. It would be great to federal or federate the minds rumble and X. I would love to see these platforms interlocking. That would be so hot. I have no idea what that means. It means like if you're on minds logged in, you can follow your Twitter follower,
Starting point is 00:25:18 your ex followers, or respond to your rumble comments. I mean, I don't think I imagine of networks. I imagine that doesn't really help the owners of the platforms though you'd be surprised it seems like you're actually going to lose because like you're giving other people more but a rising tide raises all ships it you really end up it can end up becoming a really really good it's kind of like a federation of states well i don't know uh anything about the uh financials of that but i know that 44 billion
Starting point is 00:25:44 dollars for x is a lot of money and so he's's going to have to be able to make some kind of profit off of it, at least for X. I don't know about what kind of financial situation Minds of Rumble is in. Go ahead. Oh, I was slightly going to tangent. Did you have another follow-up? No, go ahead. follow-up that I got into internet video in 2006 because it's immensely powerful. I mean, you can change the world with an internet video and it was on YouTube. At first it was on MySpace, but MySpace was a little clanky and I would have to embed my YouTube videos on my MySpace blog and then email them to my friends so that they could hear my thoughts. And then MySpace just, what happened was one month, it got so popular that it was before virtual servers, their traffic ground
Starting point is 00:26:24 to a halt. You couldn't use the website for like a month and everyone jumped ship over to Facebook. But anyway, the point was, it was always about the internet video. It was never about YouTube. People would be like, they'd have their YouTube shirts and they'd be so proud. We do these YouTube live events and I love that stuff, but it was about the internet video, the power of internet video. That's always what it's been about. It doesn't matter what network you're on. And I feel betrayed. It's a slight feeling of betrayal to have my stuff taken down by my provider by my platform and it's not my plan i don't understand it's not mine that and there are contracts involved but it's like you're supposed to have our back man no we all saw the video that got released by um it was bright bart
Starting point is 00:27:00 and um who else was it um oh i can't remember some tech company media website Google staffers crying when Trump won yeah the ideological capture that you know you see in colleges when it comes to like sociology departments and stuff like that in the humanities departments that has been going on for a decade good what well that's been going on for a decade and that means they've been pumping people that believe the ideology that they're taught in school those people have been pumped out into society so the reason that people that are at google and and in you know positions of at least some kind of authority and power uh you know that it's because they they get this idea they got the ideology in college so we have a story here i want to preface it by saying
Starting point is 00:27:51 if you're wondering why it is that three years after we aired them two of our our two biggest shows on youtube granted darren beattie was our biggest show ever it's got like seven or eight million views yeah i believe he's a former speechwriter for Trump. People really, really wanted to watch that show. They loved it and it's on Rumble.
Starting point is 00:28:10 But our two biggest on YouTube were Alex Jones and Joe Rogan. If you're wondering why they got deleted, you need only look at this news story from the National Review.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Police arrest Google employees who staged anti-Israel office protests. Need I say more? Employees at Google staged a sit-in of their own company requiring the boss to call the police and have them physically removed and they were placed on leave and their access was severed.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Now, with employees like that, I wonder how it's even possible a show like this exists. I mean, that's the whole of the tech industry or whatever, the tech companies and stuff. It is an ideology that is pervasive. Obviously, it's not everybody, but because of the way that that ideology, the people operate, if you speak out too strongly or if you don't keep your head down, they go to HR and accuse you of all kinds of things, and then you speak out too strongly or if you don't keep your head down they go to HR and accuse you of all kinds of things and then you're out and that that everyone knows that that happens in in basically in modern corporate America
Starting point is 00:29:13 today we have a video clip this is a Cassie Dillon now Cassie Akiva and you can see here Google office google office you guys gotta leave you guys refusing to leave yes okay you first end up and there it is i mean that's it google employees being arrested in a google office for trespassing yes well that's what she had and because they were protesting just think about how insane this is okay first they weren't trespassing they work at google they are in a google office where they work they go and sit in their boss's office and then say we're now protesting he says you gotta get out of my office say no he's like i guess i have to call the police on you then they get arrested for trespassing where they work i gotta say man i am impressed i am absolutely impressed with the left because
Starting point is 00:30:09 well the right has everything to lose yeah they're the fabric of their nation they love so dear the flag the lives and futures uh for their children their sacred honor blood and treasure and many of them just say i will not speak up challenge the system because i have to feed my family but they have everything to lose these leftists are willing to protest at their own companies and get arrested after their boss calls the cops on them that's that's the extent of their zeal i mean it's how do you win when this is the case look at there was that kid that burned himself alive. People are, I mean, if you've got people that are so committed that they'll burn themselves
Starting point is 00:30:52 alive, you know, over an ideology. I'm convinced that it's music is the solution. And it's almost silly. Like, I used to think I had to go find the people and then help them. And I'd go around and like, I got to get to that guy and I got to get to that guy. Then I realized if I just make the best sound, that is people come to me and it creates like this environment of like, that was the synergy.
Starting point is 00:31:13 That was the, that was the sixties, man. That was the same. That's the same thing. That's been people. People have been saying since the sixties and it didn't work. Then it's because there's too many drugs.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Do you remember, do you remember the South Park episode where the hippies are like we gotta we gotta fight the establishment okay what do we do we gotta play harder man and just keep playing music nothing's getting done yeah but if you do it right i mean look at the beatles i've been watching so much beatles music the way that they transform the world the entire world well let's change music let me let me i gotta translate ianisms for the general audience, right? Because a lot of people are posting one saying Ian is wrong. No, no, no, no, Ian is not wrong.
Starting point is 00:31:48 It's not the idea that music changes the world. It's that music builds influence. And once you're an influential person in entertainment and pop culture, you can change hearts and minds. That's why so many people are freaked out about Taylor Swift. She commands masses of fans because she's an entertainer with music. And then she writes a song called, what is it? You Need to Calm Down, which depicts conservatives as crack-toothed yokels and insults them for not supporting the LGBTQ ideology. And that's the power of music.
Starting point is 00:32:19 So perhaps it does sound a little naive, but let's translate that. Creating entertainment that people want to follow and makes them feel good gives you a path towards influencing them in a variety of ways from the indirect to the direct. You write a song, it's catchy, they like it, and you slip in their insults of the right and conservatives. Then once you're the most famous musician in the world, you get on stage and say, everyone go vote Democrat. And Republicans fear that so ian i i believe is correct in in in uh breaking down the idea it's true it's not just
Starting point is 00:32:51 the song that does it it's the industry that builds influence is that what you meant big time yeah and and you'll you don't even have to put the lyrics in the song often what'll happen is you'll make a song that someone puts on repeat and listens to 20 times in a night and And then they'll go to your website and find out who you are. And then they'll just adopt your politics. They don't even, they're like 19 year olds or 14 year olds and stuff. Well, I mean, real quick, the Taylor Swift song, I think it's called, you need to calm down. Is that it? Yes, it is. Imagine the 14 and 15 year olds who are hanging out at a bagel shop and that song is playing and they're not really listening. And in the background, she's like, don't step on my gown.
Starting point is 00:33:25 You need to calm down. That is indoctrinating young people towards these ideas. It is the radio screaming in their ears everywhere they go. Right is bad. And there's a comic about this, actually. It's like someone pencil drew this comic. It's great. And some guy says, you're brainwashed and the other person says
Starting point is 00:33:45 and then it shows the a guy a music festival where the singer's like republicans are bad a guy on the tv saying republicans are bad a guy outside yelling republicans are bad protesters republicans are bad and then the person's being like you're brainwashed actually that that is entertainment and and and influence yeah i mean and that there is there is truth to that so like if you're going to talk about being able to influence. Yeah. I mean, and that there is, there is truth to that. So like, if you're going to talk about being able to influence the culture, but I mean, that's the,
Starting point is 00:34:09 that's the point of really like the overall point of just Tim cast, like as a, as an entity, right? Like it's the, the IRL actually moves the needle. You know, I,
Starting point is 00:34:20 I mean, a friend of mine was talking today about this, the situation with YouTube and stuff. I think that we should reach out to, to, to some of the people in today about this situation with YouTube and stuff. I think that we should reach out to some of the people in Congress we know and see if Congress will send someone, whether it be Gates or whether it be someone, just to send a letter to Google and be like, hey, did you guys take this down because of, you know, why did you take this stuff down? Why are you censoring people? I mean, I know that they have, you know, terms of service and stuff, but if they don't have a legitimate answer, I mean, it's something that it does affect the interest of the American people. So it's something that they might do. I agree.
Starting point is 00:34:52 There might be in the term. I haven't read the Google terms in a long time, if ever, actually, in totality. But it might say can ban anyone at any time for any reason. They put those silly and that could be unconstitutional. You could argue those those often can be unenforceable. It just really depends. You know, I've talked to lawyers about various platforms and they go, well, they put those in there. But look, it really comes down to a judge and the judge contracts don't mean much of anything.
Starting point is 00:35:19 They mean a lot. I mean, don't get me wrong, but people, I think it's because of movies, to be honest. There is a show on netflix i don't know if you guys saw it's a what is it a black mirror episode i think where the woman's life is being broadcast on netflix okay it's a netflix show about a woman who turns on netflix and there's a show about her life okay and the truman show kind of thing but like they said we use an ai that calculates your life and predicts it perfectly and so she's watching all of her private moments broadcasting the show and everyone's like it's you she goes to her lawyer and says how do i stop them from doing that's not like this contract
Starting point is 00:35:54 here is ironclad you agree to the terms of service sorry yeah that's not how it works it's not what works if you go to someone and say hey let's do a deal uh phil i'll buy that drink off you right there what is that a spin drift i will give you 20 bucks for it sound good all right let me just draft this contract up that says we're going to do just that just sign the contract phil says sure i trust you i'll sign the contract ha ha in the contract it says it says i get all the rights to his music i own all of his music catalog he signed it a judge is going to laugh yeah he's gonna say shut up you did a deal for a soda not a music catalog throw He signed it. A judge is going to laugh. He's going to say, shut up. You did a deal for a soda, not a music catalog. Throw it in the garbage.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Get out of my courtroom. Don't waste my time. Just because you signed it doesn't mean anything. Yeah. So when it comes to the rules, what really matters is the expectation
Starting point is 00:36:34 of both parties, consideration provided. So that is, what did you exchange and for what? And I believe Google's absolutely in violation across the board.
Starting point is 00:36:44 It's just who wants to sue google who wants to go up against a trillion dollar company or whatever it's worth alphabet it's even bigger they've got like they own i don't know how many alphabet nine companies they own under their umbrella and it's like big military tech like really wild life extension they're just all over the globe right now alphabet a huge huge company when i started youtube it was youtube google didn't own them it was just youtube steve chen started the company and it was like broadcast yourself ha ha we're having fun look at my dog look at these sloths and then google bought it and i was like oh god corporatization now alphabet and now the
Starting point is 00:37:19 government's involved we know through like edward snowden's prism stuff we know that the government's and with the twitter files and all that we know that governments have been heavily involved the american government with censorship on social media so it feels just like part of the war machine at this point i will i will add um a possibility as to what happened we i for the first time ever i i recorded a quick 30 second bit i opened up tim Timcast IRL. I clicked popular, showing our most popular episodes. And then I said, if you're looking for a show on culture, news and politics, check out Timcast IRL, Monday to Friday, 8 p.m. Click the subscribe button. Come hang out.
Starting point is 00:37:53 We've had great guests from, you know, Kanye to Joe Rogan and tried to keep it light. They denied it as an auction ad. I appealed. They denied it. I recorded a new ad. They denied it. They said it was an election ad. They said I had to fill out some form and get a certificate as an auction ad. I appealed. They denied it. I recorded a new ad. They denied it. They said it was an election ad. They said I had to fill out some form and get a certificate as an election advertiser.
Starting point is 00:38:09 And I'm like, but I'm not promoting any politicians. So I contact Google. Their staff say, you know what? You're right. This is not an election ad. We don't know what's going on. We'll get back to you. Three or so days ago, or I think it was three days ago, Monday, they get back to me and
Starting point is 00:38:24 say, your ad is approved. Thank you. Those two episodes they took down were featured in that advertisement. So I wonder if a component of this is someone working Google ads sees an advertisement for their biggest live show on average, averaging the largest live audience on YouTube. And the two biggest episodes are Alex Jones. I wonder if a higher up saw that and said, delete those episodes now. I don't care how, make up a reason. Now they've got an advertisement on Google that's, I'm like, do I just blast a ridiculous amount of money at this ad? Should I make an ad on Google right now?
Starting point is 00:39:00 You know, maybe I'll do that. It'll be funny because like, will they deny the advertisement? I make an ad where I say, youtube wrongly deleted our two biggest episodes they'll probably deny probably deny it because it's too what are your meta is that's this but it doesn't violate any of the rules to do that hmm interesting yeah i don't know hey here's youtube yeah these are the two biggest shows for three years and after i I made an ad, they deleted them. Clearly, they're scared of you finding out that they had these shows. Hanging out with Alex and Joe Rogan and everybody in the RV, that was like one of the more fun nights of my life so far. That was a really, I mean, it was just an exhilarating evening to hang with those dudes and watch everyone talk.
Starting point is 00:39:43 What's crazy is that it wasn't our most concurrent viewership and but it was our most viewership after the fact i think it had like 2.4 million views uh on youtube on youtube the darren beattie one um you can look it up i think it's like what seven million total or something like that's like six point something on rumble it was several hundred thousand on youtube it was a couple hundred thousand on other platforms and by the way yes on rumble. It was several hundred thousand on YouTube. It was a couple hundred thousand on other platforms. And by the way, yes, on rumble.com slash Tim cast IRL.
Starting point is 00:40:09 It's on rumble. The whole channel is on rumble right now. So make sure you subscribe to our rumble channel, Tim cast IRL, as well as our, uh, X, uh,
Starting point is 00:40:17 YouTube. I'm sorry. Uh, X.com slash Tim cast. I think it's an X. Or this is. Dot com slash Tim cast. It's still twitter.com though.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I think. Yeah. Maybe it'll work for either twitter.com. I think at this point, anyone, it's at x.com slash Timcast. It's still twitter.com though, I think. Yeah, maybe it'll work for either twitter.com. I think at this point, anyone, it's tough to say, I would encourage people to multi-stream just to do it and build followings on all, but I, bless you, Tim. I understand the- Thank you, Ian.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Absolutely, sir. My pleasure. To focus it all into one platform, to generate massive ad revenue on that one platform does make a lot of sense at face value, but but man just having your tentacles all over the place if you're starting out we it's if you're starting out it's it's there's a temptation to like build a platform build a following on a platform and then that's where you you feel like you're at home and you want to stay there but it is good to spread out but you a lot of times you'll need that that home base kind of
Starting point is 00:41:03 platform to start you off. So that way you can actually like continue to, to actually have a, a, a, you know, produce a show or whatever, you know, for a lot of smaller producers. I mean, and YouTube has been so good with ad revenue, the whole partner program thing, 2008, when they introduced it, that was one of the great things about Google buying YouTube is that they introduced that money, big money, and they could pay people. And that was like, what the fuck? I'm just doing this for fun. i'm doing this to help people i didn't expect i i'm a waiter that was my life at the time i didn't i just wanted to help people and then they were like we're gonna give you money and then man i i got nervous about that actually they didn't bring me on the partner
Starting point is 00:41:34 program so i was too racy i was getting high and talking about saying fuck shit and talking about politics and all the racy stuff yeah welcome back guys it's too it's real life we're all in this together and um it was it was a shocking twist to watch people start to get paid and go then we made maker studios i got in with ben and danny and we we conceptualized maker studios and we built out this multi-channel marketing concept and then all the youtubers came phil um you know phil defranco was there dave days casam g lisa nova it was awesome we were all in venice making stuff it was just such a good time they sold to disney they sold it to disney for a billion
Starting point is 00:42:09 and but i was so high i wasn't i was just like i don't give a fuck about the money man i was just so like dark at that time in my life let me tell you um i worked for fusion which was owned by univision and abc news so disney and one of the funniest things in the world was when i was talking about some collaborations that would be great to do they mentioned hey aren't those people signed to maker studios and i was like yeah i think so and they were like we can just awesome we'll do it and i was like cool all right well we need like let me reach out to these guys and see what we can uh uh see if they're interested and they went what do you mean they're with maker right i'm like yeah so let me reach out to these guys and see what we can uh uh see if they're interested and they went what do you mean they're with maker right i'm like yeah so let me reach out to them
Starting point is 00:42:49 and see if they're interested in what they need to do it and they're like no no they're already signed to maker disney owns it and i was like and and they were like so we'll just do it and i was like do you know what disney bought so there were high ups at this company that thought they bought a talent roster which gave them signed talent under obligations like a talent agency and they did not realize all it did was a rev split yep yeah it didn't do anything so i was like i ended up having this conversation where i'm like do you think that these people are signed to a talent agency we own and that they have to go through us for gigs? And they were like, what is Maker? And I was like, it's a multi-channel, what is it called?
Starting point is 00:43:36 Multi-channel marketing network, MCM. That was like- MC, multi-channel network. Multi-channel. All this means is that their YouTube channel is part of a multi-channel network to add to generate revenue for their channels and they were like so we can't work with them and i'm like we can work with them the same as we can work with literally any person at any company but that means we have to negotiate a rate figure out who their manager and agent is and their agent could say no and they're like we don't own their agency and i was like no dude the whole they had no idea
Starting point is 00:44:04 what they bought the whole point of maker in the beginning when me and danny and ben were talking about it in a hotel room at youtube live in 2007 in san francisco where i was like we got to make a web actors guild we'll call it wag i don't know that we had sag screen actors guild for actors and all these youtubers were getting screwed because we weren't getting it was just like i could see the whole the people taking advantage of and i wanted to create some sort of like, some sort of union. And that's where the impetus came from to make Maker. And then, so everyone was just kind of poured it coming in.
Starting point is 00:44:32 They were already wealthy. They were already making stuff. And we were just working together for fun. I used to say, I don't care about the money. And lately I've been thinking about this a lot. I care about it. I care about it. I understand the value and the usefulness of it,
Starting point is 00:44:44 but it's not my primary motive um i'm fortunate that i've never been starving on the street pretty much i've lived in a car for a little bit of time but like like when i say i don't care about i gotta find a better way to phrase that it's not my priority yeah social capital nobody nobody will invest in a guy when he's like i care about the money they're gonna be like okay exactly because they don't want to make it they want to see some money but like social capital is real if you've got 100 people that will work for you for free that's more valuable than a million bucks nowadays you're not going to find 100 people that are going to work for you for free not in the
Starting point is 00:45:13 economy that we have right now sincerely this is this is an actual this is an actual material thing that you're going to actually have to confront if you actually want to do something like that and with people having such a hard time with making ends meet with the jobs that they have the the the value of the dollar going down so much as it has in in the past you know year or two like getting people to work for free they have to have you have to be able to support yourself as it is and you've got people that can't get houses can't start families they can't do all kinds of things they they want to do you hear people constantly talking about that they don't have the money for this can't start families. They can't do all kinds of things that they want to do. You hear people constantly talking about that.
Starting point is 00:45:45 They don't have the money for this. Can't afford this. Everything's gone up. The prices are so much, blah, blah, blah. Getting people to work for free is not going to happen. Yeah. So you need it. I would suggest another plan.
Starting point is 00:45:55 What you can do is get a bunch of extra cycles and wire them to large batteries and then offer people a free exercise program to get in shape. And what they're really doing is powering your house. I like it. Saving your electric bill. You can also start a cryptocurrency. People did that. I don't know how legal that is anymore. You shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah. I'm not saying you should. I want to give a shout out to Nathan for you. You see that episode where he's like, I've created a moving company. And I've created a new workout program and he got a guy who like never did this to go on tv and claim that moving is actually the most robust and all-around workout and then he goes to him and he's like okay i'm gonna i'm i'm a moving company we'll move your house and all your furniture to your new location it'll cost you x he's like okay
Starting point is 00:46:41 then he goes to a bunch of people who want to lose weight and he's like it's a great workout program where you move furniture and they're like oh wow so he basically he gets laborers for free to move someone's furniture for him that show is great uh let's let's jump to this story this is actually the big news i gotta be honest yeah this is from bloomberg.com and i just i laughed a lot when i read the headline dub Dubai grinds to standstill as cloud seeding worsens flooding. I would just like to stress the headline is effectively government weather manipulation backfires, causing a worsening flooding. Yeah, I don't want to say it caused it.
Starting point is 00:47:17 OK, maybe it did. But yo, look at this. Torrential rains across the UAE prompted flight cancellations for schools to shut and brought traffic to a standstill. The heavy rains that caused widespread flooding across the desert nation came after cloud seeding. The UAE has been carrying out seeding operations since 2002 to address water security issues, even though the lack of drainage in many areas can trigger flooding. So I don't know if you guys saw these videos that were going viral. Yeah. Insane flooding. Yeah. and many areas can trigger flooding so i don't know if you guys saw these videos that were going viral yeah insane flooding yeah apparently just a few days before they do this thing where they spray potassium chloride into updrafts which launches salts into cloud formations which is
Starting point is 00:47:58 then it attracts water particles it's a you know salt wants to absorb the water it pulls the water in creating a dense pocket of water that falls down as rain i don't know if they accidentally let loose too much but it sparked look at this it's a natural salt it's a potassium chloride and it resulted in this mass flooding all over uh all over dubai oh this is kind of like a good thing that not the flood but no the warning itself is a good thing like that we know that this can happen that's no this is this is a this is a terrible thing and the reason this is a terrible thing is because there are people talking about using methods to affect the amount of sunlight the planet gets in order to prevent the earth from warming anymore now first of all the idea that the earth warming is bad is is controversial in and of itself when human beings
Starting point is 00:48:54 meddle with stuff like this they do not have the ability to predict the outcome which is why you have floods in dubai right so this is similar to the the uh what happened with lysenkoism in in the soviet union toson tofan lysenko was a scientist and he rejected darwinism and this was soviet science soviets rejected darwinism and their belief was that plants that are like each other work communally this was an argument made because they they were against western science totally and they said you should plants you should plant plants that are like you know that of the same variety you can plant them very close together because they will work as a one unit and they will be more prosperous. That is absolutely wrong. And it caused a famine that killed millions and millions of people.
Starting point is 00:49:52 This is what happens when man thinks that he needs to affect nature on that grand a scale. A similar thing happened in China when you hear about the sparrows. There was an argument that Mao was making that sparrows were foreign. They were not Chinese. They were not native to China. So, because they were not Chinese, they were not communist. So the communists should get rid
Starting point is 00:50:18 of the non-communist sparrows. I know it sounds crazy, but that's the argument that he made. And so that's what they did. Every time the sparrows landed, people would go and chase off the sparrows. They would kill them. They would, they would, they would, you know, just whatever, just to get them into the air and get them to go away.
Starting point is 00:50:32 What ended up happening was the fact that there were no sparrows or not enough sparrows meant that the bugs ended up creating another, like a massive swarm of bugs that ate the crops. And there was another famine these types of grandiose plans to affect like the amount of sunlight that falls on earth are doomed and they and they doom millions and millions of human billions possible they're risky some of them are effective sometimes geoengineering is good why would you want to make less sunlight the amazon Amazon River Basin, for instance. Apparently, the Amazon rainforest
Starting point is 00:51:08 was man-made. Apparently, humans have worked on dirt. If you look up the dirt under the Amazon, check this out. I know. It's shockingly bizarre. I don't believe that at all. But Phil, did you know that Atlanteans were white? I heard that clip on Joe
Starting point is 00:51:24 Rogan. Amazon soil, it's really guy, on Joe Rogan. Oh, God. Amazon soil. It's really dark, rich soil that's man-made. They find it at the basin of the Amazon. Have you guys studied this dark terra preta is what it's called. And apparently it was created by humans. I have done no research on this. I have read absolutely nothing about it.
Starting point is 00:51:38 And I am going to sit here and smugly tell you he's wrong. Yeah, it's a very dark, fertile, anthropogenic soil found in the Amazon basin. I don't know anything about this but i don't believe i don't believe that the the amazon forest it was created by human what happened was they made the dirt to fertilize the area while they were like that tens of thousands of years ago or whatever it could have been atlantis could have been an ancient civilization and then after everything passed away the amazon just flourished because of this soil this rich soil that they'd created right but i don't think creating soil is comparable to chemical geoengineering
Starting point is 00:52:10 yeah it's a bit different yeah so washington post has a different take on it and this is interesting the headline is this technology didn't cause dubai's floods scientists say here's why. No, no, wait, hold on there a minute. This technology? Why did an editor who picked this up say don't put cloud seeding in the headline? Why not? Why could they not say cloud seeding? This is weird. This article may as well not exist. But that's what they're trying to say after nearly two years worth of rain flooded the Dubai region Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Attention quickly shifted to cloud seeding. Why did they put cloud seeding in the headline? It's almost like they don't want people to know they're doing this i'm not saying that's the case it's just a nondescript article nobody's going to read is weird yeah i mean this stuff gives me the gives me the the shivers because of things like you know like the the remember pig iron pig iron yeah it's when they said we need the metal for weapons or what were they they told everybody to melt down all of their uh tools to make weapons but it was garbage iron that broke yeah the iron became very brittle yeah chinese communist oh yes yes okay yes yes i do i do remember that um i'm not familiar with the story but i do remember that but this is the thing that i'm concerned about is like the this type of impulse
Starting point is 00:53:25 by the powers that be or whatever ngos big governments whatever you want to call it um or whoever's involved in it because i think that they're probably it's not just just governments it's you know climate activists and and there are uh ngos that are involved in stuff like the un and stuff but but the things that are going on in uh about the farmers and the protests and trying to prevent the farmers from using certain kinds of fertilizer because of carbon and stuff like that, all of those things will have massive downstream effects on the rest of the world. When you meddle with what actually are delicate systems, right? The system that provides food for the 8 billion people on earth is because of petrochemicals. It's because of oil. Without oil, if we just say leave it in the ground like the environmentalists say they want to, that means that billions of people die. Not millions, billions. want to that means that billions of people die not millions billions and i think that there are
Starting point is 00:54:27 people that are far too quick to think that humans have everything figured out especially nowadays with the information and technological technological revolutions that we've had since just since the turn of this century never mind last century but this one people frequently think okay we've solved these problems we've got everything under control ai is almost here we're gonna figure everything out we can go ahead and just go ahead and do it and we'll figure it out and everything will be fine but that is probably wrong i got a conspiracy for you let's hear it remember global cooling yes in the 70s yeah they were telling people to drive as much as possible because they really yes there were magazine articles about it there's a viral
Starting point is 00:55:03 video where it's a guy saying, we may face another ice age as the planet cools rapidly. Trends are showing the planet getting cold. Conspiracy theory. Yeah. The government, fearing global cooling, said, the people aren't producing enough carbon, so we are going to have a new ice age, and it will destroy our economy.
Starting point is 00:55:21 It will destroy this country. So they created a device that would heat the planet just a little bit to stave off global cooling but oh no they lost control and it overheated and started global warming and now they're like oh quick global warming's the problem now that explains everything overcompensation that's right i understand now we have global warming and they're desperately trying to stop everybody from carbon. You made a great point before the show about that. We're in an interglacial period. Still, we're still in an ice age.
Starting point is 00:55:49 We're coming out of the last, last, last. I think it's confusing because the comments seem to have hit 10,000, 12,000 years ago and melted a bunch of ice. So it looks like we're kind of out of it already. But the reality is we still have ice on earth because we're in an ice age. People don't realize that, that the ice, the term ice age means that there are, there is constant ice on the polar caps. The earth has gone in and out of ice ages.
Starting point is 00:56:10 The fact that we have polar ice caps currently means that we are currently in an ice age. We're coming out of it. And that is natural. There will be a point in the future when there are no ice caps on earth. Human beings will survive. We will be able to deal with this we've you know mammals and reptiles and all sorts of land-based animals have dealt with that kind of stuff for as long as there has been life on earth human beings being the the conscious
Starting point is 00:56:39 and creative and opposable thumb having uh machines that meet machines that we are uh we'll figure this out too it's not the end of the world and it really does boil down to governments are just trying to use the the climate as an excuse to control the populations populations of let me let me play this clip this is from uh damn that's Interesting on Reddit. And it's a clip from 1978, Warning of an Impending Ice Age. Check this one out. At least eight times in the past million years, it has advanced and retreated with clockwork regularity. If we are unprepared for the next advance, the result could be hunger and death on a scale unprecedented in all of history. What scientists are telling us now is that the threat of an ice age is not as remote as they once thought. During the lifetime of our grandchildren, Arctic cold and perpetual snow could turn most
Starting point is 00:57:35 of the inhabitable portions of our planet into a polar desert. Wow! In 1977, the worst winter in a century struck the United States. Arctic cold gripped the Midwest for weeks on end. Great blizzards paralyzed cities of the Northeast. One desperate night in Buffalo, eight people froze to death in marooned cars. Pat Bushnell was on the road that night. Traffic just absolutely stopped.
Starting point is 00:58:11 I was afraid of being stuck in the car all night long with the cold and the wind running out of gas. And then what? I think that if we had to go through a real bad winter, just like we just went through, I think we'd have to think about moving someplace else. Move where? The brutal buffalo winter might become common all over the United States. Climate experts believe the next ice age is on its way. According to recent evidence, it could come sooner than anyone had expected.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Ooh, scary music. And this is in my lifetime. You know, like I was two, but still. Sea coasts long free of summer ice are now blocked year-round. According to some climatologists within a lifetime we might be living in the next ice age of the nine planets in our solar system only earth has conditions favorable to human life so uh imagine if in 1978 when they made this video governments of the world decided to enact a global geoengineering project to prevent global cooling imagine the catastrophe now that they believe it's global warming and the sea levels will rise imagine they were like okay we're going to you know enact all these policies we are going to create these devices these chemicals that will make the planet warmer and then 20 years later
Starting point is 00:59:51 they're like oh the planet's actually warming it was wrong they might have done that they might have well i'm not saying they did i'm saying that's interesting if it is true that climate change is happening and the planet's getting warmer imagine if in 1978 they actually tried to heat up the planet of a fear of an ice age this is the problem with humans thinking they're smart enough to control everything and also i'm reading about we're in a night we're in what's called the quaternary ice age which started around 2.6 million years ago so this whole thing they were already in an ice age that entire show that they were just doing when they were like we may enter another right you were in you smart humans didn't know you were in an ice age when you were making that video?
Starting point is 01:00:27 That's the stupidity of intelligence. Oh, dude, when we were kids, they thought dinosaurs were lizards. Now they're birds. Yeah. So maybe they're not even birds. Maybe they're mushrooms. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:00:36 Yes. Your face! Bro, I was just thinking, I had a vision a couple nights ago about something about, something about, you were sparking some memory about what I think, what we think something is that it's not. Anyway, it'll come back to me. No, I don't think dinosaurs are mushrooms.
Starting point is 01:00:52 That's not why I said that. But they have feathers. Apparently they had feathers. That's freaking cool. Yeah, they're birds. That's why chickens look like little dinosaurs. That was one of my favorite moments on IRL. You almost saw a memory, like my mind was, my neural pathways were reforming.
Starting point is 01:01:07 And in that moment, Ian shattered through the veil and saw the truth of the universe. If I was on DMT. Dinosaurs were mushrooms. We would have known. I think that mushroom, you know my theory about mushrooms, about fungus. I think what happened was we got a planet. It's twisting open. You've got hydrogen, oxygen making all this water.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Panspermia. You get all these spores just splash into earth. so we've got these spores in our tide pools the spores that start eating the vegetable matter become mushroom become fungus the spores that start eating other spores become animal and that's where we came from well where did those come from space well yeah but that's just pushing it back yeah that's a cop out yeah i like the way you think phil well phil um what happened was there was a volcanic eruption and in this charged particulate burst it made contact with water and then these uh chemical compounds began to merge forming proteins that began to self-replicate.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Yeah. The formation of amoebas are fascinating because it's like a single cell that joins with another single cell and they work together to get the food to come in between the two of them. And then other cells will come up around and become kind of like, they'll curl in so the food doesn't fall out. And you see like six cells working together to capture food that they can all share. And then it becomes an organism. And you're like, oh, that's a thing now.
Starting point is 01:02:24 And we see a six-celled organism. That's a pretty good theory. And the way that fungus, evolutionary biologists would be able to tell you specifically how they think fungus evolved from the tide pool. I'm not the guy. You know, the funny thing is the next evolution, of course, is going to be these gigantic, creepy robots. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 01:02:41 It's kind of awesome, though. You got that video of the boston dynamic the new one i kind of wanted to save that one for its own segment man creepy as hell you tweeted it out like hold on before okay so before we move on to that like i want to i want to at least make the point like they've been talking about like global warming and stuff and for as long for a long long time the the the the coastlines have not changed right right? There is significantly less ice on the North Pole than there was 20, 30 years ago, but the coastlines have not changed.
Starting point is 01:03:10 But what about the Sphinx? Wasn't that underwater? It looks like it. Was it? Apparently there was water involved in the erosion. There's lots of erosion on the sides. I don't know if it was heavy rainfall or if it was actually submerged.
Starting point is 01:03:23 And I think that it actually was eroded and then they built up and fixed it and stuff too. I don't know if it was heavy rainfall or if it was actually submerged. And I think that it actually, it was like eroded and then they built up fixed it and stuff too. I'm not sure. You know, you guys know what expanding earth theory is? Yeah. There's a cool video
Starting point is 01:03:32 we could pull up too. Hold on. What if the earth is expanding? Because if it does, that means the water levels will go down. Oh. That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Yeah, that proves it. If it's, unless it's... It does prove it. That's actually, that's interesting yeah that proves it if it's unless it's it does that's actually that's possible um i don't know that unless it's making more water as it expands open but i think you might be you might have an interesting let's say you've got so i don't i don't know that i this is true i think this is just like fringe internet stuff but the idea is that titanic plates yeah aren't actually going under and over and overlapping and spinning around. It's that they're overlapping and unfolding. And so the earth is actually getting bigger.
Starting point is 01:04:10 So imagine you've got, you know, a ball. And around it is an inch of water in every direction. If the ball gets bigger, the water will spread thinner and thinner to cover the mass. So if the earth was more compressed 4, years ago and has been expanding the water would be going down because it would less and less water to cover the surface of the expanding ball whatever keeps barack obama's house dry is the is the theory that we should go it's possible that there is more hydrogen coming out as it expands to make more water so it might be there might be a homeostasis with it but the concern with the the global with the ice caps melting and the the sea levels rising
Starting point is 01:04:45 is that what there's um there's a word for it the the the ice is pressing down on on the poles it's pressing down on antarctica so if that ice is abruptly removed and antarctica lifts up because there's no more weight on top of it earth elsewhere will dip down it will sink so like that's they think what happened to atlantis is that because all those ice caps dressed just abruptly changed, Atlantis sunk down as well as got hit by a flood. But if it's not abrupt, then I don't think. Yeah. If it doesn't happen all abrupt, like just in a day or three days or something, it might be a really slow, you might be able to. There's a funny viral video.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Who was it on Joe Rogan? Was it Graham Hancock? Today, yeah. Or while the clip was circulating today. Yeah. And who else it on joe rogan was it graham hancock today yeah or while the clip was circulating today yeah and who else is on that show basically the other guy was saying that these ideas are rooted in white supremacy yeah because they believe that atlantis was a bunch of white people yeah that's like well that was a cool did you watch the whole show i didn't get a chance to see i mean look i don't know about how i'm not a guy that studies the Atlantis stuff, but I don't imagine that Atlantis has, you know, had, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:50 I don't imagine that Atlantis was actually real, to be honest with you. But that being said, whoever comes up with a story or whatever culture is creating the story, because I think that it is a myth so so whoever's writing the myth they're going to make the the inhabitants like them especially thousand years ago or whenever the the the story of atlantis first became you know started circulating or whatever well they so people people just imagine themselves people project yeah so exactly it's like it's ridiculous to call it racist or white supremacist because someone is sitting around a room full of white dudes and then is imagining another like a person 100 years ago and they imagine a white dude it's like people you know there's there's pictures of jesus in different cultures and there's like there's like japanese
Starting point is 01:06:32 jesus there's black jesus arabic jesus and all that stuff i think the i think the swarthy jesus the atlanteans had neanderthals in prison the last neanderthals on earth were in prison in the capital and they all died in the flood that's in my script that i'm'm writing anyway. That's in my awesome movie that is going to be produced. It's going to be the greatest movies of Atlantis ever made called The Lost City of Atlantis. I love it. Big budget. The guy that was debating Graham Hancock's name is Flint Dibble.
Starting point is 01:06:55 There you go. And that's the guy that wrote an article and kind of, I don't want to speak out of turn, but they're saying that he was associating. Drag that man. Drag that man. He was trying to call that dude racist. Yeah, he made associating. Drag that man. Drag that man. He was like, he was trying to call that dude racist.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah, he made a thing that was like, Graham Hancock stuff, he's citing sources that are racist and then he was like associating Graham with racists.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Drag that man. And Graham was like, you're making me look bad, you're associating me with things. He's like, no, that's not what I meant to do.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I'm out of context. It was a pretty cool episode. Well, let's jump to this video we have from Boston Dynamics. Lex Fridman posted this. I'd like to play for you your dystopian apocalyptic nightmare clip starting now oh man it's oh Yeah. You saw its legs turn around? It's so creepy. It's standing backwards.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Its head and legs spin around. Wow, dude. I mean, I get the point of that is to show the articulation, how it's capable of moving in a way that is more mobile than a way that is more, it's more mobile than a human being, but still there's a whole lot of man. That's the exorcist kind of movement that you look at. And you're just like, when is she going to go ahead and climb on the ceiling?
Starting point is 01:08:14 I'd like to contrast the two worldviews here. Lex Redmond says, congrats to Boston dynamics on their new electric version of Atlas robot. Thanks to all the amazing engineering teams at Boston dynamics, Tesla, and others pushing the field of robotics forward i can't wait to hang out with atlas and optimist together at some point robot party to which i responded i can't wait to fight these things as my friends scavenge a rundown gas station for food and i attempt to buy them time before we flee
Starting point is 01:08:37 into the sewers my thought when i saw that was they will also be in the sewers and they can see in the dark so yes they will be uh so night vision is a sewers and they can see in the dark. So yes, they will be. So night vision is a great technology. Yeah. They can turn into a little box. You'll kick it. You'll be walking in the water and accidentally kick the thing. I mean,
Starting point is 01:08:53 how much does that? Oh, dude, imagine that. Imagine you're in the sewer with your buddies and you have like a backpack and you're like armed. You've got limited provisions and you're like, we need to make it through because the robots find us,
Starting point is 01:09:03 they'll kill us. And then you stub your toe and you look down and there's a box and you go oh my god and then it starts curling curling up and shifting around and his arms are folding his head spins around and then it goes like human detected god it looks like termination yeah it feels like the terminator from t1000 i mean so here's an honest question though like why would anyone assume these things would not become dangerous well if if you can create an intelligence and if people that create the intelligence decide that they're going to give it motivations which is stuff that people that are working on ai are going to do because that's the that is what is happening here like we're watching not only are we watching robotics come to a place where it can mimic human form we're also trying
Starting point is 01:09:50 to mimic human intelligence and they're going to be combined without question in 50 years there are going to be artificial intelligent humanoids walking around in society like that's going to be very normal there's going to be well normally i'd's going to be. Well, normally I'd say this. You would think there would be some kind of flag. They would require like any artificial human, humanoid robot is required to wear something or have a mark. So, you know, it's not a real person. But based on how the Internet evolved, that won't happen. We are legislatively paralyzed.
Starting point is 01:10:26 So the Internet, for example, on X, for instance, even with Elon Musk doing a great job, as he does, of getting rid of predators, you still have hardcore adult content on X and 13-year-olds are allowed on there. That's insane. That should not be allowed. There should be age verification. They should block those hardcore channels
Starting point is 01:10:39 so that you can't watch this stuff. That says to me, they are going to make AI humanoid robots they've already got like rudimentary ones that are clearly not people you watch the videos and they they're looking better and better but they move stiff and they're like hello phil it's great to see you and you're like okay the voice is getting better we saw that one video where the robot stuttered they add a fake ai stutter voice they add a fake ai stutter voice to make it more human seem right and so what's going to happen is there will be
Starting point is 01:11:09 no regulation you'll be walking down the street one day and there'll just be some guy and he'll be like how's it going you'll be like hey what's up you won't even realize it was a robot robot the whole time it's going to be data from star trek no next generation like sort of but one of the first, the funny thing about Data from Star Trek The Next Generation is he was, he had no emotions and he struggled to act human.
Starting point is 01:11:32 He was trying to learn how to be human. The first thing they're doing is creating the personalities. Do you think that they'll work out these robots just to seem more human? Because they don't need to work out, but do you think you'll see one running on a trail and be like,
Starting point is 01:11:43 hello, sir. They don't regenerate the way we do. So that would just limit their lifespans. So you'll you think you'll see one running on a trail and be like hello sir they don't regenerate the way we do so that would just limit their lifespans so you'll know if you see a guy running down a trail and he says hey to you that it's not a robot unless the goal unless it's a spy robot intended to infiltrate yeah you know these places i mean we're literally like just a skin suit away from the first gen terminators that they talked about in the movie but then you could see them because their skin was latex i think uh i don't think they're gonna build these things for any functional work purpose first i think it'll be uh sex bots because look i can hire someone at minimum wage or i can spend how much money on one of these robots to lift boxes you got like a thirty thousand dollar
Starting point is 01:12:24 robot that just cleaned your house and you could have, and you had sex with you. That would be, I didn't mean you personally, but I'm just saying in general. The rhetorical you. If someone could do it, they'd go get gross. Maybe the, maybe leaving the house is a little extreme for a robot at this point.
Starting point is 01:12:37 No, they're going to, you. So this is the issue actually. Actually, fair point. I was wrong. If the cost of, if the cost, how much do these robots cost? I'm not sure the cost, but I imagine that they're going to be looking to be to, it's gotta be what millions maybe now,
Starting point is 01:12:50 but I mean, I don't know because the, the, I don't know what the technology is like, but really it's like, you're talking about electric motors and servo. So I don't know how involved it is. And I'm,
Starting point is 01:13:00 I'm speaking definitely as a very ignorant person about this, but the technology is really in, in the software and it's not in the servos and etc like the the actual motors and stuff like that there it's not super crazy far out technology to do it what's the important part is the the balance and the and the the software if it costs thirty thousand dollars for one of these robots mcdonald's replaces their staff in two seconds. Because they're going to say, over the course of three years, we are going to pay any minimum wage employee, you know, $40,000. These robots last five years and they cost $30,000 up front. Done.
Starting point is 01:13:40 And they don't get burnt. And they don't come and call in sick. And they're not going to go to HR. And they don't get burnt. And they don't call in sick. And they're not going to go to HR. And they're not going to... They could double as security. You don't need security. You don't want to do that. Why would you worry?
Starting point is 01:13:57 Because you've got all robots inside. You order at a kiosk. The robots make it and hand it to you. What do you have to worry about security? Because everyone's paying with their credit card or whatever there won't even be cash in there's no reason yeah it's like let that let someone come in and break something whatever you've got insurance there's it takes all of the all the the concerns of safety go away aside from aside from safety for your customers obviously you want to make sure that the people
Starting point is 01:14:22 that are the people that are coming to get food from there are safe. But otherwise, like internally for your business and stuff, all of the worries about OSHA and stuff like that, out of here, like who cares, you know? Like there's a ton of stuff that there's a ton of things that make it more appealing. This is exactly what the automotive industries did. It's just that the automotive industry has big, gigantic robots that have arms and stuff like that if if the automotive industry can have have these and just give them existing power tools and they can do what the what the big you know what what your average person is doing on the on the the line you're talking about
Starting point is 01:15:00 wiping out entire industries have you guys for jobs have you guys seen the uh they have so there was an article in the new york post about a guy who spends ten thousand dollars a month on ai girlfriends no god yeah because you know there was that there was that one company where people were using it for you know titillation and so they banned it and they're like stop and then all of a sudden everyone revolted and said put my waifu so they said okay grandfathered in but from now on no more this weird creepy you know titillating content so these other companies emerged and they were like we'll let you do it they will they even ate so a lot of people are wondering where these like ai porn images came from that popped up all over twitter there are services that allow you to generate your
Starting point is 01:15:43 own girlfriend like you can customize it and everything and then you pay a subscription they allow you to generate overt adult content of ai women guys are paying for it i was thinking the next era of luddites it's not going to be factory workers it's not or it's not going to be trades it's going to be sex workers there's going to be a bunch of yeah musicians too maybe because i was thinking in the shower earlier like geez i yeah making music it's like it's not about the finished product making music is actually about making the music it's about banging on a drum with your buddy and like making some sounds well maybe when we when we played the ai songs when harmit was here she was just dismissive saying oh this is stupid it's boring it's bad and i think the issue for a lot of people is they assume all music is zeppelin or the weekend or
Starting point is 01:16:31 taylor swift or something like well-crafted songs when i would probably estimate i don't know phil probably knows better but i'd say like 70 of music is background instrumental stuff for jingles for movies for uh like most people don't realize that when you're watching a movie there's really subtle background music the whole time almost the entire time in films and there's a guy who writes all that music so you go online you can ai generate all of that now that's going to eliminate a large portion of money in the music industry well i'm down to talk more about sex work actually oh before we go into sex work the boston dynamic robot i got a i got a price tag the uh the spot robot dog is seventy four thousand five hundred dollars what about the guy i haven't
Starting point is 01:17:15 seen one for the guy and by the way i'm on brave it's ai answering my search queries it's got ai answering ai generating answer it's not a i want to know how much this robot guy costs. I mean, this is probably like prototypes. They're probably like 20 or so of those that they've got made now. How amazing would it be to get one of those, get a realistic Silicon Seamus mask, put it over its head, and then attach it to chat GPT real-time voice with jamis's voice and we just
Starting point is 01:17:47 jamis could never leave us that's right he would leave but we always have a great you could have an ai that knows everything there is to know about potatoes yeah do you think you'd ever buy one of those boston dynamic dogs you might not can you have yeah it's 75 oh you're saying just to have a patrol the studio or something freak people out people would lose their actually i mean i gotta be honest it's a really great thing to have because they they walk into their own charger i'm pretty sure and they sit is that what they do right they like no yeah once the battery gets low they walk to their charger and then charge the new place it might not be a bad idea to have one on patrol teach it to scale because think about this um the biggest issue we have is information when it comes to security.
Starting point is 01:18:25 So with all the buildings we've got, the reason we have security is because if someone comes around who shouldn't be, we need to know what's happening. Then we call backup. Now, a human being can also be armed in West Virginia. So we've got a handful of those guys. Ain't nobody coming around. But $74,000 for one robo dog costs way more for security yeah i don't know how secure it it it's more of a scout i think at this exactly and so you can reduce the amount of security guards you have have a couple guys who are armed and have a couple robo dogs you cut your cost down
Starting point is 01:18:57 built in night vision because the robo dogs can do the patrolling all night long and then alert the security team to any and also scare off wildlife and stuff yeah you can also have a thermal on a robot dog yeah thermal vision as opposed to night vision it's actually better if you're looking to identify living things what i was actually planning on doing was building fake auto defense turrets for free domistan be so cool so you would just see these like two big things moving back and forth with lasers pointing and you know they wouldn't actually have any capability to do anything other than look intimidating just follow the someone if they get emotional and what it would actually be is you know the sprinklers that go yeah we would just put a big cylinder on it
Starting point is 01:19:37 so it would look like it's patrolling but it's actually just a sprinkler that's funny and then people would be like i'm not going anywhere near that thing i don't know what that is hilarious yeah it's freaky you know i was talking about this earlier in west virginia we've had weirdos come onto the property assuming nobody's there we had that incident that happened i think it was last year when some guys broke into one of the buildings and uh one of our security guys opened fire on them you should but yeah and so like you but this is the price of freedom yeah uh do you like look we we we're out in the middle of nowhere and there's crime. You go to New York, there's crime.
Starting point is 01:20:10 In New York, you have no freedom and there's crime. In West Virginia, there's crime and you have freedom. So you can defend yourself. You should get a gun safe for in the studio. And so I can bring a gun to leave there when I'm not there. It's safe, locked up. Constitutional carry state. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:25 You know, but anyway. Robots. Robots, sex dogs. What? I didn't know those words. I didn't mean to say them at the same time. But now I'm thinking about it. Clip it.
Starting point is 01:20:37 Uh-oh. It brings a whole new meaning to the word doggy style, if you know what I'm talking about. No. No. Down Vosh. Down. Dude. Wow. That's coming up on the horizon i did not mean to manifest that oh god so with um i mean we talked about this before there's already a mod for i think it's skyrim where you can talk to an ai companion and it uses gpt to answer your questions and talk to you.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Now with these AI girlfriends, they've like, this is the first thing they're putting money because they know guys will spend money on it. Look, you build a robot that can carry boxes. Amazon will go through, go to their insurance company. They'll talk about liability. They'll talk about rates. They make the AI porn and the guys they're buying it up. I imagine like this, the, the robots like this, they're going to be, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:30 they're going to be home appliances where, you know, you're going to have a robot around to do menial tasks. You've already got Alexa that goes and turns people's lights in mine, in my apartment at the, down here at the apartment, the apartment, I have Alexa and it's handy when I go home. I don't, I don't have that stuff in my place in New down here the apartment i have alexa and it's handy when
Starting point is 01:21:46 i go home i don't i don't have that stuff in my place in new hampshire so when i go home i can't even wait the chat is putting 20s for what he had just said because you know i'm right that's so funny see this is free association this is what the show will be every night if we didn't have to censor ourselves let's be free together i'm telling you we didn't have to censor ourselves, let's be free together. I'm telling you. We didn't have to censor that. You said it on the show. Yeah, dog. Now you're home. People are putting 20s in chat. I agree.
Starting point is 01:22:10 That was a 20 all the way. I don't talk to the YouTube chat very much. Are you talking about the IRL chat? What about sex talk? Discord chat? Are you talking about the IRL? They were saying Ian King, ha ha ha, 20, 20, 25. Hi, sex, good lord.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Roby. Don't encourage it. No more. I love you. Thank you for the chat. Keep it coming Don't encourage it. Okay, no more. I love you. Thank you for the chat. Keep it coming. I think it's important that we coin the term now. It already exists, but-
Starting point is 01:22:30 Robot sex dogs. Robosexuals. Robosexuals. Dude, would it be- The guys who have AI girlfriends are robosexuals. Would it be rape if you had sex with a robot, but it didn't tell you it was a robot? Would the robot have raped you?
Starting point is 01:22:44 Wait, what? If the robot didn't disclose it was a robot before it robot have raped you wait what if the robot didn't disclose it was a robot before it had sex with you would that be considered rape i don't think inanimate objects have intent it would be the owner of it actually oh that's weird this is actually a question we haven't we haven't actually uh answered in the supreme court's gonna have to take it up you're driving you're in a selfdriving car. Let's say we're at the point where we have those self-driving taxis, right? You're sitting in the back seat and you're on your phone.
Starting point is 01:23:09 And an old lady steps out from between two cars and she sees the car and goes, and then the self-driving taxi has to make a decision. Hit the old lady, swerve out of the way, crash, killing the passenger. What does it do? Who does it prioritize? We don't
Starting point is 01:23:26 know. A human would react instinctively and swerve probably and put their passengers at risk. We don't know. But a person has to program the vehicle to do it. So the next question is, if a self-driving taxi has nobody and it's driving around and it hits somebody, injuring them, who's at fault?
Starting point is 01:23:42 The terrible thing is that there's no criminal charge at all because it's a corporation it would be a fine and a lawsuit but if a human being is driving that car that human being is responsible it's a scary prospect so if somebody makes a robot like boston dynamics atlas robot what happens if one of their robots goes rogue and starts raping people i boston dynamics is on the hook for that it's gotta be are they though they who who owns the What happens if one of their robots goes rogue and starts raping people? Boston Dynamics is on the hook for that. It's got to be.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Are they, though? Who owns the robot? First, you've got to catch the robot and interrogate the thing. Get its code and be like, why is it doing this? The self-driving taxis are sold to another company. So the person driving, someone buys a Toyota and crashes it. Toyota's not at fault. You could sue Toyota maybe, depending on what happened. But typically, it's the's the driver of the car and we say you're driving a car and you crash the
Starting point is 01:24:27 car now there's no driver who's at fault the company who made the self-driving car or the company that bought the self-driving car and pressed go right because someone could buy the dynamic robot and change its code potentially i don't know if that's actually feasible or not even they buy it and they say i want this this robot to provide companionship. But then it goes, Roger that. Yeah. They're like, no. Everybody talks about it. Everybody knows that these things are going to be Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Someone's going to hack it. And then you're just going to control it like it's a drone, man. And it's going to have a built-in camera that's going to be transmitting your sex life to someone. Well, I kind of moved away from the sex part once I said you take over it. He just wants to keep going back. It's the darkest. It's probably the biggest driver of humanity is sex. It is.
Starting point is 01:25:13 I think they say that porn is responsible for the success of the internet in a lot of ways. Porn is responsible for the VHS over Betamax. And it's also why the internet speeds ramped up is because there was massive demand. The main video demand was graphic content. So that's what i'm saying like with these ai girlfriends the chat communications and video development it's like the the big okay you have chat gpt like i signed up how much does that cost it's like cheap and what do you do you like ask it questions and it's like eh fine whatever but the ai girlfriends are billion dollar industry yeah
Starting point is 01:25:43 guys are dumping money on this stuff. The monetary drive for the advance of this technology is because simp guys want to bang robots. They're robo-sexuals. Look, I mean- I think that's important we say that too. I think we call them robo-sexual. I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 01:25:58 There is going to be a demand for that, clearly, because you hear all the red pill dudes. Actually, it's probably less the red pill dudes, the the people that listen to the red pill dudes but they're they complain about the fact that women are are their standards are too high etc etc and their women complain about men and and the sexes have never been more at each other's throats and there are dudes that are like i'm checking out of of society or checking out of the dating market and stuff there's a huge percentage of young guys that are you know 18 19 20 years old that have never had a girlfriend that have never been on a date there's all kinds of women that are like oh i can't find a guy people are going when you can customize something
Starting point is 01:26:39 like a robot or an ai to give you what you're looking for there's gonna be a lot of people that are gonna gravitate to that now i'm wondering about women with their ai robot men like a woman a woman wants to feel safe if there's a robot i will protect you and he's got laser turrets on his arms you're like no one's gonna mess with me and my kid and he's also able to inseminate you and give you kids with your genetic desires or whatever the hell well i mean you still yeah like would a woman take that as a robot husband like better than any of these simp dudes like this guy didn't even work out this robot can lift 7 000 pounds like well he's got the horn tonight here's the here's the issue right guys uh not every guy but a lot of guys like to be domineering they like to dominate uh i wonder if women do. So I was reading this thing about the
Starting point is 01:27:27 success of strip clubs. Why is it that strip clubs are almost always women? There are clubs where guys strip, but they're rare. And I think this might be like, okay, Cupid data. They said men like watching women in submissive positions. Women don't like seeing men to to to women on average submissive men are not attractive they want strong commanding men so to see a guy on stage serving you is a weak position it's it's more of a a funny thing to watch and less of a you know like like attractive whereas for guys they just see the woman woman's body and they're like yeah dance right so i wonder how that will translate to robots you say on stage like uh the women don't want to see a guy as a servant so you're thinking they don't want a servant robot they want a robot that's going to take charge and like we're going to the park today guys i may be i don't know guys are going
Starting point is 01:28:20 to buy these so look with these websites i think it's called, what was it called? I can't remember what the name of the website was. It was at New York Post had the story. But it's like you could, you pick the kind of girl you want. It's like the kind of hair, the size of the, the funny thing is like all of the AI girls that have been generated have massive knockers. And it's just like, just like ridiculously obscene, not real. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:28:41 I don't think we got that. Yeah. So like on the New York Post, they showed a bunch of pictures of of demo women and their boobs are just like like those women would be in serious pain yeah they would need surgery back breakers yeah and then like you i pulled the website for the show here's the creepiest thing of it when you when you click create it gives you two options real or anime i don't i don't get that that's the weirdest thing to be or anime. I don't get that. That's the weirdest thing to me. Like what?
Starting point is 01:29:07 Wow. I don't get it. Dudes want anime waifus. And I'm like, why not any other kind of fictional person? Why is it anime? That's just so weird. That's it. Something about weebs, I guess. What's a weeb?
Starting point is 01:29:18 Like an anime dork. Dudes that like- I'm like, dude, I like anime, but that I don't get. I guess this is the depopulation of humanity like it's it's a self-selecting system where people are choosing to have virtual relationships and then just until they're dead and because it's easy and then it's it also works for if there really is an agenda a global agenda where there are too many people you guys we can't keep exponentially growing at this rate with this technology.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Jeez, man. And so just kind of- You look at this stuff, these AI girlfriend stuff, and it's like, they will say whatever you want them to say. You program their personalities, what they look like. They can generate graphic images. And then imagine a guy grows up on that stuff. And then he meets a woman in real life.
Starting point is 01:30:03 And she's like, hey, I'm not into that. we have to have boundaries whoa boundaries robo girlfriend has no boundaries she does whatever i tell her to do there's just like it's gonna shed our brains it's gonna break people the the changes that have happened in the past 25 years i mean obviously i mean even even ted kaczynski's uh you know the manifesto he acknowledged all of the changes that had happened just in the previous hundred years since the the 150 years since the industrial revolution humanity has had all of the things that have had social pressures and and evolutionary pressures all of that stuff has been removed because we have machines to do our work we have machines to protect us we have machines and technology to inform us and stuff all of the things of the connection to to actual nature
Starting point is 01:30:58 and stuff all that stuff's been removed and now with machines becoming so like i mean if you thought machines were you know common when you had toasters and cars and forklifts like when people are going to have you know when people have neural link and uh personal robots nowadays personal robots like you have a robot that that you know sweeps your house or some people do. You can buy, you know, so robots like this. We used to have the Roombas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:30 But they suck. Well, yeah, they're small and they're painted, but they're not as good as the big ones. But that guy is going to be able to grab the Dyson that you bought and do the Dyson for you. And that Dyson works like mad. And he can probably fold up into a little cube and then sit himself in the corner. So he'll sit right next to the Dyson. He'll get up, pick up the Dyson, actually do a good job cleaning.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Or they'll make these, have you seen these amorphous robots? They're like, they can change form. They can go through tubes and stuff. They're like, look like a goo. Yeah, robots. That can clean your floor real easy. Well, I mean, maybe, but robots aren't going to be like, robot isn't going to be one kind. It's not going to be just the humanoid thing.
Starting point is 01:32:03 I mean, nowadays, everyone thinks, nowadays you can actually can actually think of you know tim's car is a robot because it's got you know it's a tesla that can do all kinds of stuff that other cars can't do you know i i require i require this of elon to add a voice assistant for teslas like oh awesome how am i not at the point where there is not like a red bar that moves up and down? Hello, Michael. Hello, Tim. Where would you like to go today? And they'd be like, we're going to the casino.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Hollywood it is. And then it just goes, start driving. Yeah, that's a good idea. Also, Elon, the headlights also double as projector screen. So you can project a movie onto the back of your garage while you're chilling and watch. Also, Elon, make me a sandwich. Yeah, get over here this is it's it's go time after you colonize mars we require more of you exactly he's doing more than most people to we'll build an electrostatic slingshot to get things into martian orbit he actually is making more elons he's got oh yeah
Starting point is 01:32:58 seven kids or something like that oh yeah we're here what were you gonna say talk about andrew tate no i was gonna talk about space slingshots i think tate said let's talk about slips i'd rather talk about space slingshots have you seen those things where it's like a big uh it's a big disc and there's like a hammer in it that spins around really fast and then shoots the thing straight yes spin launch yeah that's the company and that's earth to orbit but what you can and then when once it's you got something in orbit you can send it through like a mag rail that just fires it off into another orbit that catches it in like a reverse maglev magnet and so you can really like shoot packages have they done that yet already i don't think so no it's a big thing it spins really really fast spin launch yeah it's up and active you can't really send organic like humans
Starting point is 01:33:38 up because of the pressure will kill them but you can send i wonder how spin launch is doing yeah man spinning and throwing that we're gonna go to super chat so if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends head over to timcast.com click join us become a member um because it doesn't look like youtube likes us very much and uh it'll be interesting to see with uh see what happens moving forward. But of course, the premise of this episode is three years after our biggest episodes aired, they made up reasons to take them down.
Starting point is 01:34:14 And they won't give us assurances. They put a warning on the channel. And I'll stress this again, because I told them, I was like, look, you got a problem with the episodes. Three years later, tell me you're taking them down. Fine. Instead, you issued a warning on the channel, which is effectively a strike. So it's a four strike system. Here's how it works.
Starting point is 01:34:31 The first violation, we warn you. The second violation, you get a seven day suspension from broadcast. The third strike, the official second strike after the warning, I believe is two weeks. And the third is a permanent ban. Permanent ban. i believe it's two weeks and the third is a permanent ban permanent ban so if they were like look it's been three years i know this has been saying the channel for a long time we're just going to take them off off the channel i would have been i would have been offended and angry and i said whatever there's no threat to us being banned when they say something like that but to come to me and say not only, not only will we retroactively ban your show,
Starting point is 01:35:11 we'll delete you permanently if we find any, anything in any clip you've ever done over the past four years and your thousand plus episodes. So I'm like, I got it. So I have to delete every episode. We would have to literally just go in and purge the entire channel because we have no idea when they will decide to retroactively ban us. And there you go. Anyway, we've got plans. We've got plans.
Starting point is 01:35:28 I can't say too much. A lot of people are like, why are you still on YouTube? Blah, blah, blah. We do post all our clips on Rumble. There is projects, stuff behind the scenes going on that were not for third parties' involvement in their interests. I would gladly tell you. But again, I respect other people's privacies in that regard. We'll read your super chats.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Become a member at TimCast.com. We'll have the Uncensored show coming up. It'll be fun. All right. 1596, 159648 Sentile says, time for TimCast brought to you by Rumble. Love you guys. Hate Google and YouTube. Well, there was a lot going on behind the scenes.
Starting point is 01:36:02 I have spoken with top men. We'll see. Ted DiIorio says, not today, Clint. Maradi says, did I really beat Clint? You both did. Clint. Amazing. All right.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Colby Hanson says, for Phil, donut operator has new t-shirts that says the left lane is for crime. Donut's a smart man. What is this uh shadow's hand says warhammer 40k is now woke they took male factions that were that way for over 30 years and added women for no reason and then gaslighted the fans into saying they were always there get woke up really carl did a video on a sargon of a cod actually under the the sargon of a cod uh page on youtube he did a video on for on 40k and it is a shame it had 40k seemed like one of the only properties that was doing really good at keeping woke out and the reason is because it literally is about space fascists it's about like everybody's evil in the whole in like 40k world so you know have you
Starting point is 01:37:06 played it before no no i'm just familiar i'm from i'm not well versed but i'm familiar with the lore so kinsei sensei says if they shut you down i'm canceling my premium membership and moving to rumble permanently the issue is you know one of the things i said to google was maybe we just shut it down move to a different platform, but maybe that's exactly what you want. Like if they took down our two biggest shows ever, which they said were fine for three years, it seems to me like, I know this, I've suggested this, I've had some conversations there. Like the, the idea is they can't ban Tim cast IRL instantly. They need to do things so that when it does get banned, they'll say, oh, well, but he had several strikes over the past several months. What were we
Starting point is 01:37:51 supposed to do? So they look through all our episodes, retroactively enforce against two of them, giving us a warning. The next thing that happens is in a month from now, because I took the training, which takes 90 days for the warning to resolve. A couple months from now because i took the training which takes 90 days for the warning to resolve a couple months from now they'll say oh episode 412 look what you found strike now you can't broadcast for a week exactly because if they came outright right now and banned us there would be a huge stink a huge conundrum there'd probably be a a lawsuit. It'd be crazy. So instantly I'm like, okay, here we go. Game's on. I get it. We'll see. Um, as I mentioned, we're talking with top men, so I don't want to say too much, but there's a strong possibility that this entire YouTube
Starting point is 01:38:35 channel has all of its videos purged within a week. And then what we end up doing is the show is on YouTube for a week before being permanently deleted and then being archived on other platforms or maybe even being on other platforms. The YouTube clips will be up for maybe a month before being deleted. I don't know. People do watch old episodes. They do. We can see in the analytics and people do watch older clips. Sometimes clips will get views for a month or two, but,. But what do we do? You know, that's what YouTube wants. That's the world they've created. They outright said they would like to be irrelevant.
Starting point is 01:39:11 I love this. I love this. Uh, I remember meeting with Google 11 years ago and they were like, we are losing to Netflix and we need to compete. Okay. Well, here's why you lose. Netflix has edgier content than we've ever had. Crazier content. They have ancient alien conspiracy stuff on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:39:32 You can't even have that on YouTube. They'll ban you. I mean, they do, but like you never know, YouTube will just destroy your company overnight. What sane person wants to start a business? That's why I've been saying for a long time if you're looking to get into this you start rumble you don't start on youtube to be fair i will stress this we need rumble to launch their ad network we need uh we need that ad revenue and and uh they have some but it it doesn't compare uh same thing for x x is pretty good. The ad share has gone up. And so what we need is, this is a component of X functionality. If X had a live player with a live chat feed, that would be massive for generating revenue.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Because when you post a tweet or an X post, what happens is if ads appear in it, everybody who sees it generates revenue and you get a share of that. That's fantastic. It's awesome. I have 2 million followers, 2 million, 10,000 followers on X, hundreds of millions of impressions. And I think I get like a thousand bucks a week, maybe like 5,000 bucks a month or something that will not run a company. It's fantastic for me just posting garbage and satire and jokes and nonsense on the platform. You know, it's good income, but it certainly can't run a company. I wonder if we
Starting point is 01:40:50 were to get hundreds of millions of impressions on a show like this, I don't know if it would generate the revenue we need it to. It's hard. It is. Ad revenue is very different from membership revenue. Membership revenue is asking a person to directly give that 10 bucks. And then you have, man, this is, this is also difficult too, difficult too is inflation and nothing i can say about that inflation makes it harder because you know it gets to a point where we have to pay people people more to cover the cost of gas and rent insurance but then the cost of running this show goes up we have to then ask everyone to pay more but then if we do we might just lose members outright so it's difficult it's real tough man oh youtube's on the fritz of course not surprised raymond g stanley jr says i would have been super honored to be on irl we called ray but you it was like
Starting point is 01:41:38 a last minute thing our guest got uh had an emergency and then uh i was like oh man we gotta have raymond on the show. Like everybody knows who he is. So it would like, everybody would be awesome. But we'll another time, another time. It's out in the ether now, we will plan for it. I love meeting him, it was kind of like meeting a superhero. What a cool name too, Ray.
Starting point is 01:42:01 I mean, you got it all. I like Ray Burt G. Stan Burt Jr. Just like somebody decided to make a parody of Raymond. That's funny. Was it Burtman? Dr. Tran said, you or Ian said something bad about Israel. That's what happened. And this was three years ago though.
Starting point is 01:42:18 I'm like, nobody was talking about it. I mean, yeah, who knows? I'm pretty neutral. I like seeing both sides, but I digress. Silver Screen Psychopathy says, you talk a lot about not supporting evil corporations, but you're paying ScrewTube. Time to head over to Rumble, baby. The tube doesn't want you.
Starting point is 01:42:35 I'm sure Rumble will be happy to have you. Let's go. I will just simply stress again, I have spoken with top men. We'll see what happens next week, but I don't pay youtube they pay me it's an indiana jones reference by the way you ever seen uh raiders the lost ark at the end of the movie where's the ark uh it's being taken care of by top men right who's that top men yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:42:59 and then it shows the guy in the warehouse and he's like carting it oh top man an indiana jones reference all right best movie john eddie says my cousin katie had a blood vessel pop in her brain causing her to have a fatal heart attack her parents need help with final expenses there's a go fund me for her katie rodriguez sholo thank you Sorry to hear, man. That's crazy. I will stress to everybody we are on Rumble. All of the clips are on Rumble. The full live show isn't. But, you know, we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Amishman says this is all a publicity stunt ahead of Timcast moving to the X platform next week. Nothing. They literally took our episodes down um youtube deleted them sent us notifications the youtube video is struggling to play right now is other people experiencing that i'm clear looks good on my end looks like you like youtube on iron is like on the verge of crashing yeah james savick says my to YouTube, ban Tim and I am gone.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Look, man, remember when they banned Alex Jones and Milo and Paul Joseph Watson from all these platforms? They don't care. What they're looking at is it's political. There are employees there who just got arrested because they want Google to divest from Israel. I guarantee you there are managers at YouTube who hate Israel and don't like the fact that this show has nuance on the subject matter. Phil's defended Israel on several occasions. Uh-oh, can't have that. I've been thinking lately that there's this big picture,
Starting point is 01:44:38 earth politics, there's this global business that's happening, there's all this business going on. And if you come up with an ideology, the global business will be like, can we tolerate this ideology? Is this ideology going to derail our global business? If it's not, we'll accept it. If it is okay, then you're going to have to find a way to let the population mall, the ideology and figure out. And then if the population can come up with a way to integrate that ideology, to make global business a little better, they'll let it. But if you push the ideology too hard without showing them that
Starting point is 01:45:04 you're going to make business better, they'll kill you. So you've got to be, or they'll ban you or they'll do. So when it's good to have ideology, but you've got to learn how to synchronize it with the business of earth. Jason Dixon says, Tim, I'd like to sell 10 Bitcoin and invest in Timcast. Timcast has no investors. I am the sole owner and none of its other companies, related companies, have any shared interest as well. SCNR has partial ownership from Bill Ottman of Minds.com, who's a good friend. But I don't believe Timcast will ever take investment. You know, I say I don't believe because I don't, maybe I die at some point. The issue is just that we want to expand cultural endeavors and grow.
Starting point is 01:45:46 And so the money that comes in through everything basically funds and supports the mission and the operation. The business, it's like we've gone over expenses and like salaries and all that stuff. And we're like, man, it's just like the bulk of the costs are travel, accommodation, massive expenses. It could be upwards of like $3,000 per day. So a lot of money yeah in that regard and then we have uh international guests people who come from europe
Starting point is 01:46:09 the craziest thing is that we were looking at a flight to texas and it was two two thousand five hundred round trip whoa yeah and we're not talking first class and i was like wow the other thing too is we book a lot of travel um within like a week or two because a lot of a lot of guests shift around and uh the problem is that if we book a lot of travel um within like a week or two because a lot of a lot of guests shift around and uh the problem is that if we book someone like two months in advance which we sometimes do and then book their flights and they cancel on us we lose that money we've also had certain people be like i missed the flight or i can't take the flight and so it ends up costing a lot of money the the crazy expense is driving if we if we had a studio next to an airport it would be a lot
Starting point is 01:46:47 cheaper but a lot noisier it's funny that's how for me too when i travel the flights are like 150 bucks but to get to the airport and back is 180 with an uber it's crazy we're so far in the woods i mean and to be honest with you like the the cost of travel and stuff it's not going down because the the cost of oil is is not going anywhere but up unless there's some kind of change in the U.S. policy. All right. Noor Elahi says, if you post and stream to Rumble the way you do to YouTube, I will stream and watch TimCast IRL there. We all have that app on our Roku. Ask Crowder how loyal fan base can be.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Here's a hundred bucks to show of good faith. I really appreciate it my friend one of the uh concerns is that i think around 60 percent of viewers watch on the youtube uh youtube app on their tvs so they're not chatting they're not super chatting they're sitting on their couch with their friends and family and they turn the tv on this is one of the craziest things that uh i didn't know for a long time because we look at the concurrent viewership and we're like wow we have 44 000 total viewership is actually much bigger than that we can't track that because we don't have the same tools as like nielsen ratings but uh i ended up learning that like a guy his wife and his friend or kids will be watching the show they'll like it'll be the end
Starting point is 01:47:58 of the day and they'll turn the show on the tv they'll open up the youtube app press play and then there's like three or four people in one room watching the show. That counts as one person in the concurrent viewership. Yeah. So there's no real way to track all that. So we don't actually know the full size of viewership. What we have with the concurrent viewers is not people, it's screens. And it's around 60 to 70% television screens,
Starting point is 01:48:22 which means the viewership's actually a lot bigger. It's crazy and so then you know people will come and be like wow you get 40 000 concurrent viewers you average that and i'll be like screens so if we're talking like your average family or whatever and these are people in their 30s and they may it may just be like at most like two people we're looking at concurrent concurrent viewership is actually closer to around like 70 or 80. Some people are watching on their phones and laptops too, for sure. And that's the big challenge too with moving to another platform is that people would have
Starting point is 01:48:54 to switch to Rokus and other things like that. But I do believe we have a solution. It's just, you know, the other top men that I've spoken with, they want to get their ducks in a row before we say what's going on uh andrew star says no one cares about your salary dude well they sure do chat a whole lot endlessly about how i'm only doing it for money so i make it a point to point out i would live a much more comfortable life if i only did the morning show that was the original plan for iro with the van i could just drive around and do them do do my morning show my monologue clips anywhere could be skating and skiing anywhere i wanted living in a van down by the river but then we did this show and uh decided to you know build stuff i guess yeah build stuff gotta give back yep then we hired a bunch of people and then we built a bunch of infrastructure and tried to make it professional and better and
Starting point is 01:49:51 we keep expanding the new studio sorely needed definitely people complain that the lighting makes them look like zombies so it can be pretty bright sometimes it's the new studio looks so good it's mostly the balance it's like cinema quality wesley was just nailed it yeah he's so good and it's not just wesley i think aaron was involved too i was impressed with how thin i looked oh good job man you've been working quite a bit no it's not that it's that these cameras are like they flatten your face it's funny too that the weirdest thing is people who are like tim is short and fat and i'm like then they watch a video of me skating they're like oh tim's kind of tall actually yeah me it's got to be the beanie when the beanie comes off man your brain it's just it's people when you see what you it's actually a mirror yeah when they see what
Starting point is 01:50:36 the baby is like okay he actually is a genius because you see like it's a large brain relatively sure pretty interesting but i was actually surprised because i don't know what it is lenses have a huge impact did you guys ever watch a video of how lenses change how people look and so uh these new cameras make everybody look very different everybody looks like everybody looks pretty tall because it makes yeah it makes you look slim i don't know it's it's uh it's a bigger room it's a a fixed lens and they're uh they're higher quality cameras they're they're actual um dslrs they're not these are these are camcorders these are really good ones and they do look great they also lit the backgrounds which might be causing dynamic shape in your so you can see
Starting point is 01:51:23 there's some shape definition in the bodies yeah so the new studio has spotlight lighting each person has a light that shines directly on them plus uh uh led bar backlighting and then there's like windows and stuff so decorations and things on the wall will be harder to see because the room's a lot bigger too but uh it looks great monday is gonna be epic what do we what do we have on monday who's the first guest is that scott pressler oh yeah i looks like it i love him man that'll be great yeah pressler will be our first guest in the new studio gonna be gonna be fun on a bun let's grab some more super chats what do we have youtube's on the fritz for me
Starting point is 01:52:08 i'm still still got it here amir habibi says mr bogus makes some good points we need more podcasts with him as a guest well rest in peace mr bogus but uh we are planning on having shamus on at some point um no you know it'd be great if we had shamus and shamus uh yeah shamus one and shamus two nice yeah shamus one is the cat yep shamus two is the cartoonist you know it would be great if we had Seamus and Seamus Seamus 1 and Seamus 2 Seamus 1 is the cat Seamus 2 is the cartoonist we don't have a lot of respect for cartoonists over here dirty AI
Starting point is 01:52:34 Seamus should be here I believe he'll be here all next week so we're excited to have him back I think Seamus is fun I love him because he says he's a Christian but he likes to question things no i'm just kidding seamus i believe you don't put words in his mouth yeah yeah i'm gonna make you question everything clint torres says howdy people apologies for the tardiness i had to see a lady about a cat phil you should do a couple of gym sessions
Starting point is 01:52:59 with tim it sounds like he has a lot to teach about going hard. He definitely does. Today was nuts. Why? Because Richie wouldn't let me stop skating. So I was trying to do a run on the mini ramp. And these are not even like the craziest tricks. It's just, I haven't skated a mini ramp in a long, long time. So I was doing a board slide, fakie disaster, axle, back disaster, nollie front disaster, no stall, switch blunt, and then like a rock to turn around and then a kickflip 5.0.
Starting point is 01:53:34 And I got one, but I hit the wall with my hand. And so that's not clean. And then I was like, I'm so beat. I'm done. And then Richie was like, you got to get a clean one. So I'd skate it for another 40 minutes at max heart rate and then uh i couldn't get it i was like look the one i got is what i got but then i was like on the verge of dying he's really good at pushing you i like richie he's a great teacher richie's great yeah good dude we were we were trying to get him
Starting point is 01:53:59 to come on the show but he wasn't here yeah so we're trying to find everybody caleb says tell the quartering to quit quit it crying and trying ear ear off your back he wants you to stream to rumble because it would benefit him directly so he's pitching fits like a woman well i don't know exactly what he's saying but i think like everyone's trying to make help help rumble get bigger and bigger and bigger i can respect that i would just like to stress and in in all fairness we need to make money off the clips so that we can pay people who work here we put the clips on rumble either way those clips don't generate money it's like very very little so we lost a lot of ad revenue by doing so, but we want to be on Rumble. We think Rumble is important. We think it's good. The live show is the biggest driver of memberships to Timcast.com because when we're live, we say, hey, the members only show starts now, go watch.
Starting point is 01:54:55 And then tons of people instantly sign up. The fear is that if we disrupt that and we don't see the same turnaround because we don't know, we stop generating memberships and then we become a sinking ship. And then we have to figure out the stability point where, okay, how many memberships do we generate through streaming on other platforms? And if the number is that it's lower because we've deranked ourselves on YouTube, split our audience up, some people can't find the stream or otherwise, then we have to say, how do we shrink the ship to maintain its current size based on the current level of growth? Right now where we're at with YouTube, we have moderate to slow growth. I would call it stable. And that's great.
Starting point is 01:55:35 Then there's an opportunity for biz dev with like Castbro and other things. Other companies have asked us to stream on their platform. And I said, if we do that and it reduces our current level of memberships, then we have to start cutting fat. I don't want to do that. We are, we are, we are stable where we're at and everything we're doing. We're seeing moderate viewership growth on YouTube, moderate membership growth. And so that allows us to invest in other ways to shore up the defenses for the show. If we venture off into the unknown, don't generate the revenue. It's only a risk for us. So I've said to all these companies is mitigate that risk deal. And most of them have said, we don't know if we can, we can do that. We'll see what happens next
Starting point is 01:56:17 week. YouTube has changed the game and opened the door for a lot of competitors in ways they should not have by doing this. The fact that they took down one of the craziest podcasts ever. I'm offended by this. Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, Blair White, Michael Malice, Luke Rutkowski, Ian Crosland, me, Drew Hernandez. I said Drew Hernandez. Yeah, Drew Hernandez was there. You just, yeah, you just did. Who am I forgetting?
Starting point is 01:56:40 Lydia was there too. It was back when Lydia was on the show. All of these people on this crazy show. It's a cacophony of nonsense. Joe Rogan's laughing. Jones is going nuts. Michael Malice is laughing. YouTube deleted it. That's crazy. Yep. That's crazy. One of the craziest podcasts ever. It was just such a simple show. Yeah. And they were just like, after three years, I didn't even bring up Klaus Schwab. I wanted to bring up Klaus Schwab and I should have,
Starting point is 01:57:03 because it would have been funny. I remember the moment when I could have said it, too. It was a funny moment when you asked Joe to do DMT or something, or ayahuasca, and he was like, what? Who are you? Yeah, he was like, well, I'm going to wake up, and I'm like, why didn't I puke? I was like, God, this guy's funny as fuck. He's not famous for no reason. I can't believe it.
Starting point is 01:57:18 That's insane. He was funny. Wow. All right, we'll grab a couple more of these here. Super Chats. We are going to have that members only uncensored show and we'll talk to you guys so become a member support the show you know i do believe that if we uh were so here's something i i think if we were to like say okay youtube screw
Starting point is 01:57:39 you and we chose any other platform we would see a massive burst in memberships instantly. But then people, their memberships, they cancel them, their cards expire. We don't have a membership team that calls people and asks them to re-sign up. I feel like that's annoying. Maybe we should. Maybe there's a lot of people who don't realize
Starting point is 01:58:02 their memberships lapsed, and they would love to stay members. If we just had someone hit them up and be like hey we see that your membership stopped would you want to keep going or no yeah i know what you mean because it is annoying to get a call you don't want to get but i think value tainment does that they do thing they have a dedicated marketing facility maybe if we had like two people and all they did was like send messages to people and say hey we noticed your membership dropped off we'd like to we'd love to have you back is there anything we can do and if they said no is that they can have a nice day and maybe people would be like oh i didn't realize here so yeah sign me back up phone calls particularly phone calls hearing a voice
Starting point is 01:58:35 i guess you know i wish i could do it i can't we'll just we'll just yeah we'll get an ai that sounds like me like i am tim oh we get ai to trust me please sign up for my website welcome to the future actually if you could just get a voice an ai voice filter anyone could do it no they just sound like it can't do me oh really yeah it's weird we we've tried a couple times to take a recording of my voice and i've even talked to like seamus about it and he's like impersonating tim is hard to do. It's like, yeah, I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:59:08 People have told me that it's hard to do an impression of me. You do sound very neutral. There's not a lot of things that you could actually grab onto and exaggerate a little bit to make- Joe Rogan too. Yep. Joe Rogan's a hard voice to impersonate. I've seen people who have tried, but there's ways he talks.
Starting point is 01:59:26 You can get, but the actual sound of his voice, like people can imitate Trump and it sounds like Trump, you know? Yeah. But we tried putting my voice into the AI voice generator and it sounded weird. It sounded like this. Hi,
Starting point is 01:59:37 I am Tim pool. I'm like, that is not. Yeah. Cause your voice, it kind of sounds like high, but it's deep. It's got like,
Starting point is 01:59:43 it's like, it's like low register, but kind of like the upper, I don't know. And it's sharp too. it's got like it's like it's like low register but kind of like the upper i don't know and it's sharp too it's got like a sharpness to it the way you like finish a sentence and finish a sound a lot of times carsten ellsworth says tim a professional marketer and longtime timcast member looking for a job change the new marketing effort sounds fun if you're hiring i'd love to join the culture war where Where can I send a resume? I don't know. I don't know that we actually would bring on someone, you know, Dane already is our marketing guy.
Starting point is 02:00:10 I think all we would do is just like make ads and do like awareness campaigns and just generate ubiquity. It's not so much that the ads make people watch, but it's that everyone becomes familiar with the show. And you know what I's thinking of doing what if every monday we put up an ad on uh a variety of platforms that says like this week on timcast irl we've got and then it shows the guests and it's like watch live monday through friday this week and then we just change that every week because then we're directly advertising something maybe that it's too bad it takes too long to get ads approved.
Starting point is 02:00:47 Because if YouTube actually did quick turnaround on ad approvals, I would do a daily. Where it's like, tonight at 8 p.m., check out Phil Labonte on TimCast.io. The occasional, when the guest doesn't show, and a big marketing thing for something that doesn't happen might be a problem. I don't think it's fine. All the big cable networks do this and then if someone doesn't show up they're just like unfortunately they weren't able to make it all right everybody smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends don't forget to subscribe to our rumble channel at rumble.com slash timcast irl and subscribe uh follow me on twitter or i should say x at timcast and the show of of course, at TimCastIRL.
Starting point is 02:01:26 We're going to go to the members-only show right now, so become a member at TimCast.com. Like I said, Phil, what's going on? I am PhilThatRemains on Twix. I am PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram. The band is All That Remains. You can follow us on Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora. I don't know. What are the other ones?
Starting point is 02:01:44 YouTube. Amazon Music. Amazon Music. There you the other ones. YouTube. Amazon Music. Amazon Music. There you go. YouTube. The internet. And don't forget, the left lane is for crime. Oh, another thing.
Starting point is 02:01:51 Check out the All That Remains Instagram page. It's all that remains. It's Instagram.com slash all that remains. Keep an eye on that because it just got wiped today and there are things coming. Do you have a date for the song's release? Not yet, but it will be announced probably in the next few days or week or so. So keep an eye out. And Bucko, did you have any last words?
Starting point is 02:02:14 Okay. All right. Yeah. Good job. I'm Ian Crossland. Follow me at Ian Crossland on Rumble, on YouTube, which I'm still on. I've had my channel for 18 years or whatever the hell. Follow me all over the place.
Starting point is 02:02:25 Every social network. I probably got a presence except TikTok. I've had my channel for 18 years or whatever, though. Follow me all over the place. Every social network. I probably got a presence except TikTok. I don't mess with it. And I'm going to be in Austin on April 27th for the Minds Festival. It's going to be awesome, dude. Toby Turner's kicking off the show with the music set. I may play a song with him. And we're going to be doing... It's a night of roundtable debates, discussions, comedy, music.
Starting point is 02:02:42 It's going to be fantastic. You go to festival.minds.com and get your tickets there. Use promo code Ian for 20% off. And I'm really looking forward to seeing you there. And I'll probably be hanging out with people after the show and meet the crowd and everything. So catch you there. See you. All right.
Starting point is 02:02:57 Thanks, y'all. Have a good night. See you tomorrow. We'll see you all over at timcast.com. Not tomorrow, but in a few minutes. Thanks for hanging out. you you you

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