Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1010 Judge Dismisses Illegal Immigrants Charges For ATTACKING National Guard w/Tony Shaffer

Episode Date: April 24, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil, Seamus, & Serge join Tony Shaffer to discuss a judge dismissing charges for all of the illegal immigrants charged with attacking the National Guard, Thomas Massie facing a $5...00 fine for slamming Democrats waving Ukraine flags in congress, the US House passing the bill to ban TikTok, and a new robot dog with a flamethrower attached to it being sold in the US. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So we all remember that story where a wave of criminal aliens attacked the National Guard to storm their way into the United States. The judge has now dismissed the riot charges against all 140 illegal immigrants, saying there's no real probable cause to charge these people with a crime. And if you want to bring a charge, you're going to have to prove that to a grand jury. So it just seems like there's no border, I suppose. These people are literally on camera attacking National Guard, and they said there's no probable cause to justify this. I suppose the argument is, well, how do we know? The individual himself. I suppose the issue is if they are illegal immigrants, why are we pausing, questioning whether or not they committed a secondary crime when they're
Starting point is 00:00:45 already illegally entering the country and should be deported. But that's what's happening. So we'll talk about all that. Plus, we've got news for the Trump trial. This one's fascinating. They're basically saying that this is a trial not about not about the hush money payment itself as falsifying records, but of election interference, because Donald Trump was trying to, he was conspiring, in fact, to suppress information that was negative about him. And that's not illegal, but they're arguing it was interfering with an election. Let me just break that down for you. What they're saying is Donald Trump doing PR interfered in the election. That's the argument they're making. That's why Trump is being charged. And the Gaza Israel anti-Israel protests are expanding into more universities. Funding is
Starting point is 00:01:30 being pulled from some big top donors. And it's going to be real interesting how these universities react. Colombia, it seems, is siding with the protesters. They're going to lose a lot of money because of it, but I don't think they want to lose their customer base. So we'll talk about that. But before we get started, head over to castbrew.com and buy coffee. Why? It's the best coffee you will ever have. Appalachian Nights is everyone's favorite. We've also got Rise with Roberto Jr.
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Starting point is 00:03:30 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Tony Schaefer. Hey, good evening, everybody. Good to be here. Thanks for having me, Tim. Who are you? What do you do? Well, I'm a retired spy, believe it or not. My Bond moment is actually in the International Spy Museum.
Starting point is 00:03:45 You can Google it. And I spent 30 and a half years doing skullduggery for the Department of Defense and having fun doing it. So it was a great time. And don't thank me for my service because you paid for it. So thank you for paying for my service. That was great. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:01 That should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. Seamus Coghlan is here. I'm Seamus Coghlan. I am back for round two. I create cartoons on YouTube. If you guys want to check out Freedom Tunes over there, I think you'll enjoy those. We released a cartoon last week that people are enjoying.
Starting point is 00:04:15 It's Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens debating on the Whatever podcast over whether Israel or Palestine has a higher body count. Go over there. Check it out. If you like what we're doing, go to freedomtunes.com. You'll get to watch a behind-the-scenes podcast with myself and my team where we discuss how we're able to create these cartoons so quickly right on hannah clare's hanging out hey i'm hannah clare brimelow i'm a writer for scnr.com i'm happy to be back philibonte's here tonight hello everybody my name
Starting point is 00:04:37 is philibonte i'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that remains i'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary serge Serge? Yo, I am here. Hopefully the worst night. Let's go to it. Hopefully. All right. Well, here's the first story. We've got this one from the Postmillennial.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Judge dismisses riot charges against 140 illegal immigrants accused of rushing the border in El Paso. Quote, I don't believe there is probable cause for these individuals to continue to be detained for the offense of riot participation, which basically means they're being released as well. On Monday, a judge in El Paso, Texas, dismissed the cases of 140 illegal immigrants charged in connection with a border riot that took place when the illegal immigrants stormed border patrol agents at the U.S.-Mexico border. All 140 still face federal charges stemming from their illegal entry into the country. Though most illegal immigrants are given a court date some years into the future and released into the domestic U.S., the Biden administration often offers free flights for these individuals to cities and states across the country.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Now, I suppose the argument is, how do you know this particular individual rioted? And that's the argument that that's what happened in D.C. in 2017 when the particular individual rioted? And that's the argument that, that's what happened in DC. In 2017, when the far left rioted during Trump's inauguration, they asked the police, how do you know that individual right there was part of that group?
Starting point is 00:05:56 And they were like, well, we arrested him in the group. And they're like, but you don't know what they did. It must be just a humble man wearing a black hoodie and a mask and black jeans. And it was a coincidence they were there. So the police tried getting them on and the DA tried going after them for conspiracy. And the courts ultimately ruled you can't charge an individual for the actions of an amorphous mass.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And that's basically what's happening here. Because the illegal immigrants invaded the country by force attacking National Guard, a single a single illegal immigrant can't be charged for it. So they're allowed into the country. They will be released and their charges will be dropped. Tim, can I ask you a question? Yes, of course. Were any of them cannibals by chance, just out of curiosity?
Starting point is 00:06:36 We don't know, but I would assume no. Not that you could charge them for that, but it's just a curiosity, just saying. We don't even charge them for entering the country illegally, let alone rioting at the border. We wouldn't charge them for anything because this is how the Biden administration handles illegal immigration into this country, despite the fact that it costs the average American worker tens of thousands of dollars. I mean, it's such a slap in the face to the average American to see this come up. You're right. Not just the workers, but you look at the crime that they end up causing. You look at lives that are taken unnecessarily because people who were told not to enter here and disrespected our country's laws every step along the way are allowed to stay.
Starting point is 00:07:10 So was there any video at all? Because it looked like they videoed everything. Shouldn't that be admissible? It's like, hey, these guys really were, you know. They were wearing masks. I don't know. Were they wearing masks during that? Many of the people who attacked the guards
Starting point is 00:07:24 were wearing masks. Wow. And so the argument then becomes, well, how they were mastering that. Many of the people who attacked the guards were wearing masks. Wow. And so the argument then becomes, well, how do you know that was him? Yeah. And so, of course, non-citizens have due process rights under the Constitution, same as everybody else. So you can't charge him with attacking the National Guard and illegal and illegal and illegally invading the country. I love this quasi-warfare reality that we're currently in where Ukraine is not the U.S. versus Russia because the Americans that are fighting there are fighting there privately of their own volition. And U.S. troops aren't actually fighting. They're just providing intel.
Starting point is 00:07:57 So we are not at war. And then you have citizens of a foreign nation attacking our national guard at the border, but as individuals. So there is no... There's no invasion. There's no invasion at all. Yeah, just millions of people pouring through the border. It hasn't been formally declared. January 6th was an insurrection. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:16 But this is not an invasion. No, they're just coming to shop at Walmart. That's all. They're just coming. They're Walmart shoppers who are masked because they don't want to get any sort of infections. Well, you know, the reality is they are. One of the interviews during the migrant caravan a few years ago, the LA Times asked one of the migrants in the caravan why they were coming,
Starting point is 00:08:34 and he says, I miss Buffalo Wild Wings. And I was just like, there's Buffalo Wild Wings in Mexico City. Sounds like he's seeking asylum to me. That guy really needs our help. They got B-dubs in Mexico City. I went there. It was great. It's cruel and unusual to not allow them to go to Buffalo Wild Wings in Mexico City. Sounds like he's seeking asylum to me. That guy really needs our help. They got B-dubs in Mexico City. I went there. It was great. It's cruel and unusual to not allow them to go to Buffalo Wild Wings.
Starting point is 00:08:50 You're right. Or Mission Barbecue. It's remarkable. And that Mission Barbecue is also good. We can sit around and make all these jokes for like five minutes. It's burning down. And we all know that there's not going to be anything done with the border with the current administration. And if they get reelected, if the administration gets reelected, nothing will be done.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And the American people generally agree, right? Like Americans broadly are like, if you have people coming to the country illegally, we should stop them. We should say you can't come in. There are almost lots of numbers. 300,000 in one month. We ended up breaking our previous record of 200,000 in a month. 10 million in the past four years or something like that? It's complete insanity.
Starting point is 00:09:35 They say something like 7 million, but you know it's not that. 7 million is the compromise number. It's not good. The idea that that that is not an outrageous number that that the government just sits there and says well i mean it's what happened and it's not our fault even though they they got into office and repealed all of the the or you know got rid of all the executive orders that the previous administration
Starting point is 00:10:00 had just because it was the previous administration and not Donald Trump was enough reason. It is absurd, ridiculous. The entire government is clown world. It's exhausting. I want to hit that because I actually talked to a DHS official today on the drive out here to wherever we're at. Just saying. So during this conversation with him, he said that there are members of DHS who recognize what we're saying to be absolutely correct and factual, that this is a clown show. But they're being held back by those appointees who were appointed by this administration. So as a former guy who was a sworn civilian and military officer, there are people like me who want to do our jobs.
Starting point is 00:10:44 The problem is the politicians, the people who are appointed above them. And that's why you see this. And until something is done to remove them from their ability to influence the permanent bureaucracy, you're going to see this. And by the way, Tim, you know, I mean, we all know it's like New York is fed up with this.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I talk to folks up there all the time. They can't ride the subway. So I think it's a matter of time before their own side, your former side, I guess, really gets upset and says enough's enough. But it's going to take something to say, you know, we got to do something about it. I do think regular people are starting to snap. They should. Scott Pressler mentioned this the other night. Unregistered voters are leaning towards Trump.
Starting point is 00:11:21 So the Democrats are putting out these messages being like, stop registering voters. They're more likely to be Trump supporters. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, one of the issues that Trump campaigned on most successfully last time he ran, or I should say the first time he ran when he actually won, was the border issue. Right. Right. And they've done everything within their power to make it worse. And since then, I mean, since 2020, they're saying we've let in the population of New York to the country. Oh, my gosh. And that's not even an accurate number.'ve let in the population of New York to the country. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:11:46 And that's not even an accurate number. We all know that. It's closer to 10 million. It's way more. So I live in a very real county in North Carolina. The whole county is 14,500 people. That's the whole county. And it's very poor.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And I'm on the Social Services Committee. I'm running for county commissioner, just saying if anybody wants to vote for me in the county. But in the county, the minorities there feel that they are being deprived of resources they should otherwise get because they see, like us, all these resources going to the illegal aliens. I mean, when you're talking about people who could barely pay for their heating bill, that they have to have special programs, and they see people coming here and getting $15,000, $2,000 a month for their family, they're fed up. And this is the left's border. I mean, they're Democrats. Right, and open border is an elitist position because the people who are most adversely affected are typically people who live on or below the poverty line.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And they devalue the value of labor. That's why I can't believe that the left is not upset, the unions aren't upset, because the more illegal aliens you come in, the more you devalue a unit of labor in any market. And I just, it's like, where is anybody who actually understands what this does in a way of damage to the- But how much of it is just headline chasing, right? They want to be the party that's like, we were the most welcoming. Exactly. Well, you're right. It's completely backwards. These people come into our country
Starting point is 00:13:04 without any identification to work for wages that Americans won't accept. And the unions go, they have a right to work. It's like they won't let an American citizen. They try to push for these laws that make it impossible for an American citizen to be able to work without a union in certain sectors. And then they're willing to allow people to just flood the country and take whatever job they want without any kind of registration totally off the grid Social Security numbers not any job Nancy Pelosi said if they don't come they won't pick our crops remember Mm-hmm. So well, it was was it Kelly Osbourne? That's right, yeah, but yeah that there's a lot of dignity in that statement so much respect No, it shows you how they see them. It shows you how they seem their pawns're pawns, ultimately. And they're here—I remember having this conversation when I was in high school,
Starting point is 00:13:48 someone saying, well, they're just jobs the American workers wouldn't do. That's just not true. I don't think that's true at all. They wouldn't do it for that wage. Yeah. Right. And also, at times, there are times it inhibits technological innovation, right? Like if you think about agriculture workers, labor that you could sell out cheaply to people
Starting point is 00:14:04 who are not here legally, who you don't have to hold to safe working standards. Technically, you could potentially have other innovations come in and solve this. But instead, you're perpetuating these terrible systems. We talked about that new Atlas robot from Boston Dynamics. Have you seen this video? No, I haven't seen it. It's this creepy humanoid thing that spreads spreads its legs and like stands up and then
Starting point is 00:14:26 its body spins around and walks towards you or whatever. And we, and the joke I made was watching these like androids they're building. Well, I, you know, I can't wait to fight one of these robots while my friends are scavenging for food in a gas and abandoned gas station. And I'm trying to buy them time. And then we all escape into the sewers and flee. But thinking about it now, what's really going to happen is if one of these robots costs $50,000 then these companies are going to be thinking a single android for $50,000 is going to
Starting point is 00:14:54 operate for five years. So that's $10,000 a year. That's way cheaper than any human. And what's actually going to happen is there's going to be neo-Luddites who are running up in the middle of the night with masks on and smashing these robots and destroying them. Sabotage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I think it's absolutely true. You know, when we examine this through an economic framework, it's easy and I would say accurate and worthwhile to point out the fact that these people are driving the cost of labor down. But it's a lot more insidious. This narrative that the left has pushed on immigration for the last several decades that these are just people who want to come here and do jobs that we won't do like again not only for reasons that we've pointed out is that not true but it's just not the case anymore more than more than half of the people who pour over the border are not from Mexico you have no idea where these people are from there's no idea what they want to do
Starting point is 00:15:39 yeah there's a lot of human trafficking going on like this this is not even about somebody adjusting market equilibrium with respect to wages for labor. This is about trafficking. This is about human trafficking. This is about people from nations that are hostile to our interests at a time where there is intense turmoil on the global stage just entering into our country. We have no idea what they're doing. But Seamus, that's how we'll solve our birth rate problem. That's what makes me crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:04 It's so open, like population replacement. 100%. And again, all of the Americans who are trying to keep the system together pay for this. It's disgusting. It's disgusting and it's evil. What was the name of that robot again, Tim? Atlas. So do you think, would you sign, would you all join me in doing a petition to require that they bring Atlas robots in to replace the entire cast of The View?
Starting point is 00:16:27 I think that would be it. And that would last for 10 years. It's a cost-cutting, and they can't be any less. It would be great, actually. I think it would be funny. It would just be ChatGPT pretending to talk to itself. Yeah. No, I think that makes it too strong.
Starting point is 00:16:39 But it would be comparably the same show because GPT's training ends in 2021, so they would be equally as ill-informed. Oh, man. Got him. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's a good one. Let's jump to this next story.
Starting point is 00:16:53 This is speaking about what's going on with the border. We got this tweet from Thomas Massey. You may have seen the video. Rep. Thomas Massey posted a video of the U.S. House of Representatives under the direction of Speaker Mike Johnson. Democrats celebrating his total capitulation with no victory for securing our border. And here is a video of all of these people in Congress waving the Ukrainian flag. Yes, they're all very, very. That's breaking the House rules, by the way.
Starting point is 00:17:22 You can't fly. You can't fly a foreign flag. Really? No. Well, here's what's fascinating. Thomas Massey tweets, instead of fining Democrats for waving flags, the House Sergeant at Arms just called and said, I will be fined $500 if I don't delete this video post. Mike Johnson really wants to memory hole this betrayal of America. Now, Mike Johnson tweeted he doesn't agree with the fine and he's going to put in a good word. But it is it is shocking to see our representatives
Starting point is 00:17:51 flying the flag of a foreign nation as they vote to send our money to a foreign country unjustified while our border is in crisis, while our country is dealing with inflation issues, while our country is dealing with health care issues, while our country is dealing with inflation issues, while our country is dealing with health care issues, while our country is dealing with gas prices, jobs, all of these problems that need to be solved. Absolutely. And it goes so much deeper than that. You can say honestly, calmly, not even bombastically, as a blanket statement, quality of life has not approached what it was in 2019 and everyone knows it everyone knows it just five years ago life was far easier for people you're getting at you're getting to the point where even very wealthy people are having trouble maintaining the standard of living
Starting point is 00:18:36 they used to have they talk about goods getting cheaper country clubs are cutting corners what about poor people what about people who are already struggling to afford food? This country is in a horrible position right now. And we're just giving what else we have left away. Yeah. And it's going to get worse. One of the senators during debate today pointed out that the Social Security Fund is going to run out in 10 years. Our Highway Transportation Trust is going to run out, I think, in 2028.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Again, I don't even know that the federal government should have these things. But if you're the left and you say, yes, federal government should pay for all of these things, how can you also say we're going to send all of our money away as opposed to deal with these things that are specifically designed theoretically to address domestic problems? But it gets even more frightening, right? Because one thing people will look at when we talk about the national debt is the debt to GDP ratio, which is fair. It's an interesting way of looking at things. But at some point, when your debt gets bad enough, you just have to look at whether you're capable of taking care of the interest payments each month.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And the interest payments, if rates rise to historic averages, like 6%, I mean, it's going to get to the point where a massive percent of our budget is literally just going to be going to paying off the interest on the national debt. I mean, we are in serious financial trouble here. Well, don't frighten me. I start Social Security payments this November. I never start them, sir. We never have them.
Starting point is 00:19:49 That's the thing. I'm going to get mine. It's just a myth that I heard about one time. Congratulations. I hope it's great. Me too. I'll let you know. I'll let you know.
Starting point is 00:19:59 No, but to your point, it's like we are spending $8 billion a day, $8 billion a day, and we're only appropriating about $4 billion. So that's $6 billion we're printing every day, $6 billion. And to that point, it's like, Tim, I've watched your stuff over the years. I'm fundamentally not against military spending because I think most military spending is useless. Much of what I've seen spent, you know, when I was in Afghanistan, I would walk into this tactical operations center, and literally wall to wall are these $10,000 a pop plasma TV screens. Like, really? Is this going to help us kill the Taliban better by having all this really cool screens? And that's what's going on now. That's what you're going on with Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:20:45 So all this money we've seen, 300 billion. Think about that. Yep. 300 billion. What could we have done to create high-speed trains, improved airports, student debt, all these things which I think are clearly American issues are being ignored.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And yet we get the Ukraine flag on the floor of the House. It almost looks like we're being invaded, right? Their flags are everywhere. From every direction. I would rather give that $300 billion to a random guy in the United States. I'll take it. We just spin the old Social Security you put all the Social Security numbers in a
Starting point is 00:21:17 bucket, you spin it around, you grab one, you go John Smith $300 billion to you because he still spent it here, I guess. Tim, I would rather give the presidency to a random person. Spin the wheel. I'm fine with it at this point. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:21:33 There was some poll they were talking about on Fox News that the DNC did focus group tests on Kamala Harris and everyone hates her. The funny thing about the story is they needed to do a focus group to figure that out. Did they ask Willie Brown by chance?
Starting point is 00:21:50 Well, I feel like they were doing it to try and defend themselves. They're like, no, if we just ask the right people, it'll be like her numbers are getting better, but they just get worse and worse and worse. I mean, can you imagine being that deeply unpopular and you're the vice president to Joe Biden? It's rough. Well, she has taken the office to a new level of high that the high is so high. The high is so high that we are amazed at how high the high is. As a matter of fact, the high is so high. I am amazed at the highness of the highness. She's so high. She's so high. But no, I hear you on that. I want to touch on the point you made
Starting point is 00:22:23 about military spending there. I mean, the Pentagon fails its audits all the time, as you pointed out. I mean, you'll see ridiculous spending. And I did an educational cartoon on this a while ago for the Foundation for Economic Education on just examples of insane amounts of money we spent on things. And you look at it and you go, OK, was this money actually spent on that or was the money being laundered and hidden and sent somewhere else? I don't know. But what I will say is this. You have to build some trust up with the American people at this point, right? I mean, the military has not exactly, and I mean the military leadership here,
Starting point is 00:22:53 has not exactly done what they've needed to do in order to make the American people feel as if they're going to A, protect them, and B, spend their money wisely. And we're just shipping money to other countries, and it gets to the point where everyone knows it's a racket, and they're sitting here, they're doing it. And they're laughing at us. The question is, what are people going to do about it? There have been these stories periodically where it's like, the military says we don't need any more tanks. And then Congress is like, more tanks, give them more tanks, we're spending the money because we got to spend the
Starting point is 00:23:17 money somewhere. So but I know Lloyd Austin, I was in combat with Lloyd Austin, when he was a one star general. And I can tell you, based on my experience, Lloyd Austin is a guy who's going to go along with whatever the mainstream wants him to do. And that's part of the problem. You don't have Schwarzkopf's who are willing to say, you know, enough's enough. I'm a Reagan guy. I'm still friends and mentors with Ed Meese and other Reagan folks. Reagan was the only president I know of that actually funded a strategy. In 86, he got to the point of where he sufficiently reached what they felt they needed to overwhelm the Russians, and they cut the defense budget. That's the only president that's ever done that.
Starting point is 00:23:54 And it's like, that's what we should be doing. It's like, how do we actually play 5D chess and not just simply spend all this money and hope for the best? You don't think the Secretary of Defense should just disappear? Well, you make a really good point. He did disappear. He did disappear. He disappeared without telling anyone, including the White House, because that's how functional the Biden administration is.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I told you guys his new nickname, right? Zippity-Doo-Dads? Oh, could I say that? We should invade the United States. That's a great idea. I think their borders are border. That's my radical position. I think we should secure it.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I'm like, we could do some nation building in the United States. What if we said there was a security? Someone tell the United States federal government how much oil the United States has. That's crazy. And they're going to be taken over. Tell them that we're trying to secure Mexico's northern border. I want to invade Alaska. I'm ready to go for the King Crab.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Right? Yeah. I want to mention this. You made a point. I can't speak to the specific general you're talking about. I'm not familiar with him, but you make a point here. He's currently a sec def. Lloyd Austin. So everyone I know in the military has basically said that officers essentially get to the point where they become politicians, right? And that's a massive problem in our military is these are people who are basically acting the way that a standard American politician does, which, as we know, isn't well. And I'm curious what you think about a potential solution to that problem as someone who's actually worked within the system.
Starting point is 00:25:14 So there are officers with integrity. I've advised and worked with a number of them. Oh, no doubt. The problem is that the system, the more power you have in a system, the more the system tends to corrupt people. And a lot of people like George Washington was a rare general by the fact that he walked away from being the Continental Army chief and walked away from being president. It takes someone who understands their personal limits and the ability to kind of rein themselves. We really don't have that. And so when people get into uniform, I'm going to get in trouble for saying this, but I'm just going to say it. People who get into senior positions in the military have to become politicians
Starting point is 00:25:49 because their job becomes, especially their generals, not all generals, Blaine, just saying if you're watching, that generals tend to then become extensions of the corporate state that Eisenhower warned us about. Military, industrial, congressional complex.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And that's how it feeds. I got that romantic view of the military. You ever see the movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson? Yeah. Oh my gosh. Okay, so he's like a retired dude and he's got a family and his kid gets killed. And then he basically goes to a high-ranking guy
Starting point is 00:26:16 who knows him and he's like, if you'll join me, we will have you. And just writes him a commission and hands it to him. And then you have a legit guy with actual experience who's coming back to teach, to lead, and to win. And then you have, today, politicians trying to look good on camera, fit the corporate press narrative. And it's not so much about being an effective leader in defense.
Starting point is 00:26:40 And it's more so about it seems very bureaucratic and managerial It's just filling out the paperwork and getting the points on your name and all that stuff We also need more trans representation in the military, of course Well, how would we that's how are we supposed to win a war? How are we supposed to we I don't know Did you guys know this? I'm I'm aware of this by direct knowledge not personally. I'm not transitioning just saying by the way Maybe that's an idea. Maybe the sec def should transition, like lead the way to being, you know, trans. I mean, he kind of already got cut down there just saying, I guess it would be kind of an easy thing to do next.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Anyway, my point being is that, did you know that you could enlist, Tim, not that I think you'd want to become other than you are. Yeah, they cut your hair, man. Well, they would shave my head. They cut a lot of things. Do you know that they now are uh conversion to trans as an incentive recruitment tool yeah recruitment tool yeah because they're they're i know people who are involved in that transition process and by the way once you're in you can't you can't deploy but is it really no you can't
Starting point is 00:27:38 you're not usable are you kidding you're on drugs you've been cut the the things don't ever heal completely you can't be used in the military for a purpose of military purpose. But is this which branches? All branches. Even the Marines? Yes. Wow. The Marines, I think, are more reluctant to bring people in.
Starting point is 00:27:54 But all the branches have been permitted to bring in using a tool of recruitment. If you want to be Tamisha want to be uh tamisha they you could be tamisha so there's a recently the i remember a few years ago they did a commercial where it's the is like the army commercial and it's only being like i have two moms yeah and i'm like what does that have to do with being in the army nothing but they changed it and i recently saw a commercial for the army it was like a guy in a swamp with a gun wearing makeup and actually doing more army sounding things but not drag makeup that's the commercial they would have made five years ago no but i guess the point is maybe maybe they're starting to realize like our recruitment
Starting point is 00:28:34 numbers are in the gutter they are perhaps we should shift towards masculine fun adventures i think they're worried about an actual war so So now they're like, you know what? Let's put white males back in the commercials. Like we think we might actually have to fight. Let's stop. Whatever. Men, instead of trying to pander to marginalized groups or supposedly marginalized groups. No, recruitment numbers are atrocious. I mean, you can probably talk about this better than I can. But one of the other problems is that the portion of the populations that qualifies to be recruited is extremely small, right? There are tons of people who are disqualified immediately. So the people traditionally who sign up are from the Midwest. During World War II,
Starting point is 00:29:15 there was a study. Most of the folks who fought World War II were from the Midwest. They're patriotic, good old boys. We're in one of the good old boy states right now. And so the idea is you want to bring those people in because they don't mess around. They do what they're told and they're able to achieve military objectives that are assigned. That's, that's the military fundamentally kills people and breaks things. That's it. That's, it's pretty, it's pretty Midwest is like sign us up. There's a lot of, there's a lot of, a lot of focus from, from the military after world war two is making the military a social experiment. so that way it's a job program. And that's the issue.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And, you know, you can have your opinion on that. But if you're going to have a military at all, it should be at the very least capable of doing its primary job. Exactly. Maybe you can have it be a job program. Maybe you can have those kind of things. But you can't lose sight of the primary focus, which is break things and kill people. So let me say this and be clear about it. I enlisted in 1981.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I was a private. I went through training. It was back in those days. By the way, the 80s were great. You guys missed a great time in the 80s, just saying. Man, this guy's got the 80s. He's got Social Security. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:30:22 He's got everything. I'm all set. Look, I'm retired. I can hang out. So my point being is that in the 80s when I came in, we really weren't integrated. Black and white, minorities, we're all together in the military. We're all green. And oh, by the way, the other thing, we're the gays in the military.
Starting point is 00:30:38 We didn't care. It's like, yeah, you want to be gay? Go be gay. You want to be a lesbian? Go be a lesbian. But nobody ever contemplated being cut. And you're a you're a rock and roller so do you know sheree curry from the from so sheree and i are very close friends she came out recently publicly against all the the utilization utilization of mutilation mutilation of children and it's the things like
Starting point is 00:31:00 there's a difference between being trans and being cut going through the process and being gay or lesbian and who you sleep with. There's a huge difference. And this is where the line has been blurred to the point of where, yeah, even the gays and lesbians I know don't like the idea of children being recruited or the idea that even if you're an adult, you go into the military because you benefit personally. Do you know how much money we spend on converting a Tim to a Tamisha? I'm not picking on you, Tim. I'm not. I'm just saying. I'm just using it.
Starting point is 00:31:32 So Hannah. A Hannah to a Hans. I want to pump you up. Yeah. That's why I have two first names. Hannah Clare, because I'm very female. There you go. I'm not changing.
Starting point is 00:31:41 But I'm just saying, the military spends a ton of money on this, and it doesn't actually benefit recruiting, because you're not going to have a lot of people who want to become a different person. I think the issue isn't recruiting. I think the issue is institutional capture. I think that you have people who are aligned with a cult ideology, and they're gaining positions of power and advancing the ideology, regardless of what it does. I think you hit the nail on the head.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I agree. I've often referred to it as social fire or cultural fire. It's just a chaotic, destructive force that expands, it consumes, it's chaos, it destroys. So there's no real reason to try and make recruitment ads that are advocating for gender affirmation or whatever they call it, because that doesn't in any way benefit the military, the military, the mission of the armed forces, nor this country. But it's happening across the board. Now, I do think we're starting to win.
Starting point is 00:32:29 It's pushing back. You know, as I mentioned earlier in the show, which Scott Pressler mentioned last show, unregistered voters are leaning towards Donald Trump. I think a lot of people are saying now everything from immigration to inflation to the woke stuff. The culture is shifting away from this. You had that one OnlyFans woman, right? So these are women selling their bodies online. Say, I found God. I'm canceling OnlyFans.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I don't want to do this anymore. And there's been a lot of criticism of her. But I think, you know, whether she's telling the truth and she found God or she's lying to make money, that shows people think the right side of history is virtue and not debauchery. That's a good thing. It's a good thing. But aside from that, we will jump to the next story.
Starting point is 00:33:12 We have some ABC news. The Trump trial. David Pecker describes secret catch and kill arrangement for 2016 election. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. The big news here is that Donald Trump, get this, this is going to shock all of you, was trying to make himself look good while running for president so that he could win. It's disgusting. How dare he? I can't believe it. How dare he? You think I'm joking, but this is the Trump trial core argument that Donald Trump, his lawyers his personnel before during and after the election had been
Starting point is 00:33:48 buying negative stories and shutting them down no political candidate ever would do this yeah it's actually not the clintons that's never happened that's not what happened with hunter it's not illegal uh if someone has a claim and they're like i'm gonna sell the rights to my story right and you buy them and then just don't publish a story, it's completely legal. They're arguing that the secondary crime in the Trump trial, so let's slow down. Trump pays, they argue,
Starting point is 00:34:16 Trump pays Stormy Daniel $130,000 to keep quiet about an alleged affair, which apparently never happened, and now she owes him money or something. She lost her suit. Right, so she owes him like 300,000. And then in New York, they're arguing that Trump can see falsified business records to cover up his election interference by suppressing negative information to win an election. I just want to stress every single politician in the in the history of this country and probably any elected representative of any kind in any country has done that.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Well, there is there is there is no historical circumstance where a politician did not attempt to stop bad information about them from getting out. Well, hold on a second. I know that we all want to defend Trump here, but let me read you some quotes that came from Trump and people in his administration. There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated resistance from CEOs. Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting system and laws. There was a pact that was formalized. No, I'm sorry. That was Time Magazine talking about how they interfered in the election
Starting point is 00:35:22 in order to get Joe Biden elected. They literally came out and admitted that corporate America, big business, and people working from within the legal system got together in order to do everything they could to ensure that Joe Biden won. Then on top of that, we had former intelligence officials coming out to lie about and suppress a story that was true. You had large social media companies banning that story and networks saying that they wouldn't report on it because it could hurt Joe Biden. about and suppress a story that was true. You had large social media companies banning that story and networks saying that they wouldn't report on it because it could hurt Joe Biden. And they're sitting here and saying that somebody who Donald Trump was working with not publishing a story is
Starting point is 00:35:53 election interference. Well, I'd like to hit that if you don't mind. So I real, real quick, just one point. Yeah. There's not even any proof that Trump actually paid Stormy Daniels. No, of course. So what about those, uh those Congress members who had that slush fund paying off those who they sexually harassed? Is that election interference too? Because, you know, they want to make themselves look good and be reelected. Is that interference? I don't know. And the charge that Trump is facing in New York is a misdemeanor unless it's done while doing another crime, which you don't have to be charged with. Like, they just do whatever they can to give him the biggest, you know, punch that they can muster. And this is what Alvin Bragg has come up with.
Starting point is 00:36:32 It's interesting to me that no matter what happened, like when this trial started or when everything, you know, kind of kicked off yesterday, the fact that we're talking about something that happened in 2016, like they will do anything to try and throw mud on Trump right now. Well, I wanted to touch base on the 51 intelligence officers, some of those guys I know, who came out and said it was fake. I am a laptop story. Yeah, the laptop story. I actually had a copy of the laptop, had access to it. I was actually helping a certain reporter that I mentioned off air. I don't want to mention her name to get her in trouble, but I was trying to make sure she got certain copies of it. And so when I was trying
Starting point is 00:37:08 to go public and say, this looks authentic to me and I'm an intelligence officer with 30, 30 years, nobody in the media would pick it up. Nobody, nobody would pick it up. Nobody would listen, even though I'm, you know, well, hold on. I mean, let me just get this straight. You, you're saying that as a former intelligence officer, you went to assets of the intelligence agencies and they didn't listen to you? Yeah. Yeah, well, I'm not surprised. So we actually were in a room like this and I brought in a three-letter agency and they wanted to take a copy. And their leadership said, no, we don't want a copy because you know why we were concerned? I'll just say it. We believed looking at the Hunter Biden hard drive,
Starting point is 00:37:45 we would be able to determine a foreign intelligence services techniques to recruit people. They have certain things that they do. You know, I guess the term is honeypotting. Honeypotting. So we figured by analyzing that, the three-letter agency asked me to help them out. Oh, no. The 52, 51 intelligence officers, oh, they say it's not real, so we can't look at it. That's how damaging this whole information campaign was.
Starting point is 00:38:12 The legitimate issues that should have been looked at by intelligence professionals were ignored because, well, you know, these guys have come out and said it's not real, so it's not real. Well, and there was even a survey done not long after the election, when the story actually did start to get out there where they found that it was something like 10 of people who voted for joe biden would not have if they had been aware yeah rasmussen ran a poll and they found like six or seven percent said had they been aware of the laptop story they would have actually they would have not voted for biden and trump would have won yeah no doubt well it's kind of obvious why they suppressed the laptop story.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Yeah, exactly. The president's son is a, he's not a good guy. No. I'm being nice. But the media acknowledging that they literally ran what they referred to as a shadow campaign to generate the result they wanted in the election. Elon Musk purchasing Twitter and then releasing communications that were going on behind the scenes,
Starting point is 00:39:06 which showed us that those who run the digital public square were literally running defense to suppress a true story to help somebody get elected are stories that didn't result in a single person having to stand trial for any kind of election interference,
Starting point is 00:39:21 even though we know intelligence assets lied. They lied. But Donald Trump's on trial. Donald Trump is on trial. I invested in one of the instances of the ballot fraud. I actually investigated a guy named Jesse Morgan. The thing is on there. And we found that they had moved in October of 2020 650,000 curated ballots. That was the conclusion of my investigation. And we were ready to take this to Bill Barr. I'd sent a note to him and said,
Starting point is 00:39:49 hey, we want to go talk to you and brief you through Ed Meese. And guess who called me and got me fired from the project? Bill Barr. Bill Barr called me and demanded we turn over the witness, Jesse Morgan. This is all on the internet.
Starting point is 00:40:02 And next thing you know, it's gone. The FBI took it and buried it all. so i'm just saying that there are credible elements that happened either you know that show that there was active efforts to suppress any uh evidence of the fact that the election was completely i want to i want to show this tweet from alex baronson yeah he said so trump supposedly engaged in a conspiracy to win an election, but he's not charged for the one hundred and thirty thousand dollar Cohen paid down in 2016. He's charged for misclassifying the repayments he made to Cohen in 2017, by which time he'd already won. Could this case be a bigger joke? Exactly. Berenson also tweeted out. Maybe I can actually pull this up. Something to the effect of, you know, why is Donald Trump actually, here's what he said.
Starting point is 00:40:48 If I were Trump, I would seriously consider refusing to participate in the New York versus Trump and letting them jail me. I know that sort of protest has never been his style. He has always made the courts work for him. But the case here is so fundamentally corrupt, it might be his best move. I agree. Well, look at how much- They wouldn't do it. You look at how much Donald Trump has been investigated, and this is what they're trying to throw at him. Look at how much the goalpost has moved since 2016. First, Donald Trump colluded
Starting point is 00:41:15 with the Russians. They stole this election. You had something like 60, or it was between 40 and 60% of Democrats, according to a YouGov poll, said that they believed Russia literally hacked voting machines because of how much the media was running with this Russiagate narrative. Then they go, OK, OK, so we don't have proof that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians, but, you know, we think he might have been involved. And there is an investigation. And it's like, OK, well, we have no proof he was involved, but there was no bias in the investigation. And it's like, OK, well, we did find there was bias in the investigation but like it wasn't a coup or anything like that and now it's he tried to interfere in the election by running a campaign can i just stress you know
Starting point is 00:41:55 what's crazy the voters also interfered in that election by voting yeah but i want to stress this to everybody listening at home the trial in New York, for which Trump is currently attending, is a 2016 election case. They have brought us back eight years to relitigate now for what, the third or fourth time, the 2016 election. Because these psychotic election deniersiers like Hillary Clinton and now Bragg cannot accept they lost. The argument now is Trump interfered in the election. That's how he won. American tax dollars at work.
Starting point is 00:42:34 It's great. I mean, the thing is, with all of this, is the American public aware enough of the inconsistencies in what they're saying and the bias, you know, the impact of the Twitter files to say, hey, what Trump did is actually being misconstrued and we're being tricked. But that's the thing is people should start thinking for themselves. I mean, I try to monitor everything so I can. But to your point, Tim, I don't think they're going to jail him. I think Trump should do it. Go on like the Kobayashi Maru.
Starting point is 00:43:02 But they won't because you know what they'll do? They'll build his numbers up even higher they try to jail him they get the headlines you know everyday people yes exactly today today they had a a hearing brag once what does he want like 100 grand or something in something like that for contempt right but the judge is not going to rule on it and one of the articles I was reading, the journalists, someone's like some Democrats talking to journalists. I don't know the sources on this one. They actually believe Trump is trying to get jailed. Yeah. But he has
Starting point is 00:43:34 to do it in a way to where he doesn't intentionally provoke it. So if Trump comes out and says, screw you, F you judge, how dare you? What the idea is that Trump is trying to avoid taking the action, which results in him getting jailed strongly. So let me, let me try and break this down. Trump defying the court and saying, I will leave and them going, you'll be jailed. And he says, so what Trump is avoiding that. What Trump wants is some kind of plausible deniability. So they're insulting me on TV. They're insulting me on social media. I responded to that and they jailed me for it. Trump wants them to be in the most unreasonable position.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And I don't know if Trump actually wants to get jailed, but they believe he does. And I think that's why the judge probably refrained from ruling on the contempt because he's like, the only thing you can do is put Trump in jail. And that's really really bad for democrats i don't i don't know if it's going to be fun ultimately good for trump but it may be that trump is trying to nudge them into actually putting him in jail considering how the the the whole you know case has gone so far if they they just throw Trump in jail for contempt or whatever, I don't see how that could possibly be a win for Democrats or for the court. They're already generally the – I think the average person kind of looks at the situation in New York is like this case doesn't really hold water. And I think if they were to throw him in jail jail, I think that that would it would it would do
Starting point is 00:45:10 Wonders for Trump's numbers. It was always considered the weakest of the cases that are being brought against him And I think you're right If this is the one that they sent to jail on everyone's gonna be like I'd be like New York stop out I'll brag pull it together. You're making the rest of us Yeah, they leaked a story today about the Secret Service considering how they would protect the president if he goes to jail So there's another job to consider every single variable there is? That doesn't seem crazy to me. It's interesting that they highlighted that. Because again, I think to Tim's point, I think Trump is playing with fire.
Starting point is 00:45:35 And I think if he plays it right, this will help improve his numbers again. Because it'll overplay their hand. Right. I think Trump should not have gone. I think he should have chilled in Florida and publicly stated, they have issued a secondary charge with no underlying crime.
Starting point is 00:45:52 I'm confused by this. My lawyers are confused by this. If they can present a actual criminal charge for which they have the secondary charge attached, we will respond. But in the meantime, we are shocked and confused and don't know what to do. So we are going to do nothing. The issue here is that the charge against Trump is falsifying business records in furtherance
Starting point is 00:46:14 of a crime. But the furtherance of a crime doesn't exist. So there's no charge. Plus, there's a statute of limitations, which expired. So what is this? Tim, those are internal business records, too. They weren't even used externally. Those are internal records within the company. So there's no possibility of fraud since they weren't presented to someone else as fraud. It's a fake case. It's a fake. It's a completely. So why would Trump's the way I've described this repeatedly is a group of clowns showed up to Trump's house with a clown warrant and said the clowns want you to go to clown jail. And Trump went, okay, I guess. That's kind of true. It's not real.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Overweight clowns. So, look, the way I view it is this charge against Trump is not in statutory law. A DA can't be like, well, we don't actually have a crime on the books, but I'm going to charge Seamus with, I don't know, stealing a statue of a frog from his aunt's house come on and uh well you know Seamus I'm charging you with making a cartoon that incites hatred uh and violence because your cartoons I interpret as such there's no law banning it and there's a first amendment but it doesn't matter I'm gonna charge you for it anyway guilty and then you decide to be like okay I guess I guess I'll show up to court for that. I got to be honest. If there were charges announced
Starting point is 00:47:30 against me that didn't exist in law, I'd be like, huh? And I'd just be like, okay, I guess. But if we're at the point, a lot of people are, have, have responded to my, my, my point about the saying, what should have Trump done? What should Trump have done? Should he have just waited and gone to jail? You're talking about clowns, but those clowns are armed. And I'm like, dude, if you're suggesting that a rogue, a rogue, a rogue state of this country has already taken extrajudicial actions against Donald Trump, they're acting outside of the law and threatening him with violence and imprisonment, then the move has already been made.
Starting point is 00:48:08 If Donald Trump refuses to attend this trial, it is not Trump doing anything. They already did it. So it's funny because I don't think people understand how late the hour is. OK, there's the joke. Oh, you guys ready to take a drink? Civil war. We talk about these issues. Can I just stress the state of New York has filed a functionally nonexistent criminal charge against Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:48:32 They are attempting to put him in prison to jail and incarcerate him. I got news for you. If you, without legal authority, take a person against their will and lock them up, that's called kidnapping. And with the threat of violence, there can be aggravated assault person against their will and lock them up. That's called kidnapping. Yeah. And with the threat of violence, there can be aggravated assault and all of that stuff attached to it. What we are witnessing right now in New York is organized crime, not governance. It's not the law.
Starting point is 00:48:57 And so let me just keep it simple for you. To the people who laugh at the idea that things are getting crazy in this country, the state of New York, the district in Manhattan, the DA there, have just declared they will, without the backing of any legislation or any law, lock Trump up. Okay, guys, that's no different than a nonprofit organization getting a private security company to go trump's house and lock him in locking him in a cage there's no law backing this no it's it would be like if some sheriff of a remote town in 2007 to 2008 2009 was like i'm gonna lock obama up it's like well how why you can't it's worse because but they try. This meets the definition of RICO,
Starting point is 00:49:45 because this is the systemic use of individuals in a conspiracy to achieve a criminal outcome. Tim, you just outlined a criminal set of allegations. You've alleged, and I agree with you, that there's a number of things that the state of New York has engaged in criminally. Therefore, if the predicate of the crime is correct, they have engaged using a system, their system in as a criminal enterprise, which is Rico, right? Am I missing something? That's a Rico. It's a Rico charge. That's what they're going after Trump for in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:50:19 You don't understand. It's okay when they do it. Oh. I missed that. I will just stress it again. I think Donald Trump should not have listened. I think he should have come out in Mar-a-Lago at the press conference and said, I don't understand. There's no underlying crime. My lawyers are confused. We're consulting with the state of Florida on how to respond to this. But there's no underlying crime.
Starting point is 00:50:42 This charge doesn't exist. So we will not be responding to it. That would have done many things. It would have put the pressure on Ron DeSantis and the state of Florida, whether to cooperate or not. That's fair. Trump already can't campaign. So what's the point of complying with this unless the goal is he wants to provoke them into jailing him so it looks like they've gone nuts? I don't know. They have gone nuts. It's just a question of how nuts are they? Well, and how nuts are they going to get? Yeah. Let's jump to this next story.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Ladies and gentlemen, we've got huge news. TikTok is getting banned. Oh, also, they're going to give billions of dollars to Ukraine and Israel, and they're going to force the divestment of TikTok. You see how they play this game? So the NBC News story, Senate advances Ukraine aid, Israel funding, and TikTok ban. Washington, the Senate voted Tuesday to advance the bill. The vote of 80 to 19 indicates the legislation is enough support to clear the Senate in the
Starting point is 00:51:30 final vote, which could become as soon as Tuesday evening and then head to President Joe Biden's desk to be sent into law. I believe that that already happened, right? Is this just not been updated? I believe they already did pass it. I thought we had the most. It's back in the Senate right now. Yeah, I thought it was still being debated. It's still's still being debated yeah it's being redone in the senate
Starting point is 00:51:47 based on some changes that were made in the house oh okay okay but it's basically looking like it's going to happen we did have a super chat uh mega mikey says by the way the house passed the okay so the house did right yeah it's back and now the senate is expected to to clear it biden will sign it and uh they're going to wave Ukrainian flags again. Look, I'm in favor of the TikTok divestment bill. And I don't understand this. I don't think we should be funding Ukraine. I don't think we should be funding Israel.
Starting point is 00:52:18 But I do think we should be forcing the divestment of TikTok. And I am confused as to why there is this diehard adamant support for defending TikTok. And many people on the right are doing it in ways that aren't actual arguments. So one of the arguments is, oh, they want to ban TikTok because China's spying, but then they want warrantless wiretapping and FISA. They're hypocrites. I'm like, China spying on us is still bad. Yeah, those are totally different things. I'm not saying it's okay for our government to do it, but yeah yeah we can get rid of one of them and still be angry at the other yeah also i'm sorry like i don't want our government doing
Starting point is 00:52:51 that either i also really don't want china doing it and those are different things neither is acceptable neither is even remotely acceptable but i i would i would go as far as to say too there's other uh examples of chinese spyware that we should probably ban. Zoom. Zoom is just Chinese spyware. It's just interesting that as soon as the lockdown started, everyone's using Zoom. And it kind of started in academia when we were all using Skype before that. I had people be like, oh, you want to have a meeting?
Starting point is 00:53:24 We'll send you a Zoom link. And I was like, I don't use Zoom. The funny thing is when Zoom first became the thing everyone was using, I was like, oh, you guys don't use Skype? And they were like, no, no, we use Zoom. And I was like, okay. So I downloaded it, and it broke our studio computer. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:39 And I was like, okay. It screwed up the drivers somehow. So I had to do a recovery date and everything to get rid of it, to get the microphones to work again. It was, I'm like, dude, I'm never using this app again. Well, and look, I mean, we've all seen it happen. We're slowly over time, you know, maybe over the course of a few months or a few years, one social media company overtakes another, but we went from Skype to Zoom instantly. It's like, as soon as the pandemic happened, everyone's talking about Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom. Wait, I thought we used Skype here. And I think part of it was the fact
Starting point is 00:54:07 that they put so many schools on Zoom. They marketed it as being better. Yes, that's why it started in academia. It was massive in academia. And it was like, well, your kids are already using it. We have to, this fosters whatever. It's a convenience thing. It's always marketed that way
Starting point is 00:54:18 as it's convenient or whatever else. Well, I think they were better for groups because Skype had to catch up on doing- That's what they said. Well, no, but Skype had to actually, maybe they didn't do a good job of marketing the fact you could do group meetings with Skype, but they didn't. And I think Zoom got there ahead of them saying, you know, it's like, I know this is too ancient for you guys to remember, but there was something done by MCI or Sprint when they dropped the pin. They dropped a pin. It was so clear you could hear a pin back in the days when we had landlines and all that.
Starting point is 00:54:46 So it was a marketing tool. I remember seeing those commercials. Yeah, they dropped a pin. So it was a marginal improvement on sound, but everybody bought it. So it was the marketing that I think failed for Skype. Which means that Zoom was prepared to market that way, which is interesting.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Yes, I agree. No, I think James is totally right. There are a lot of companies that operate within the U.S. that we should potentially be cautious of or wary of, whether you believe the government should intervene or you just as a consumer should avoid them, right? Because you don't actually have to use, I mean, for the most part, you can get around using these things.
Starting point is 00:55:19 You can opt to use Skype. You don't have to be on TikTok. It becomes harder when it's sort of buried in the infrastructure of what you're doing, right? And this is something that China doesn't hesitate on, right? Like China just banned a bunch of meta services from being offered in the app store and mainly on China last week. This is something that they take seriously. Why does the U.S. not take it seriously? Well, China is a totalitarian state. There is no such thing as private enterprise. Yes, they have companies, but the state has right to go
Starting point is 00:55:50 in and do anything. So TikTok, ByteDance, whatever you want to call it, is still an extension of the central communist system of governance. Within the context of that, since I used to do this for a living, I did cyber stuff. Once you've taken a program like TikTok and you've developed it, you can embed in there any number of back doors, front doors, things which will activate remotely, things that will phone home even if your phone's off. That's what, if you have TikTok on your phone, you've allowed the Chinese Communist Party to have full access. It is what it is. And so I don't have TikTok, by the, you've allowed the Chinese Communist Party to have full access. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And so I don't have TikTok, by the way. I don't use TikTok. I just don't believe. I think there's other things you can do, Snapchat and other things which are available. But my point is that I'm with Tim on this. I think that this is something that should be taken very seriously because they do technically own your phone. And they will do things to F with you. And I think there's been evidence they do that. With that said, I think it becomes how do we do it with that? And I don't believe that divesting them is going to fix the problem
Starting point is 00:56:56 because if the software is on your phone, they can still have a dial home, phone home. It doesn't matter who's owning the company. It's about what's in the source code of that software. And NSA, I'm sure has already done a very destructive review breakdown of that code. And they know what those back doors are. As a matter of fact, I bet you they use half of them. And I'm not joking. I'm not joking about that. Because they figured out how to use them too. Not that I should be saying that, but I'm just saying it's something to pay attention to. This is true. I mean, you're familiar with the concept of zero-day. Yeah. Oh, yeah. For those that are familiar, a
Starting point is 00:57:30 zero-day exploit means the exploit has existed in public knowledge for zero days. That means that there have been people who have known about it and it's been utilized or used. You know, it could have been used or not used. Sometimes researchers will find an exploit and immediately publish it and say, fix this.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Or they'll contact the company and say, fix this. Here's the fun thing. There's white hat, gray hat, and black hat hackers. And the funny thing is, I had a friend who said, that's actually not true. So first, let me clarify. White hat hackers are supposedly good corporate employees who are trying to fix the internet and you know make everything better black hat hackers are the evil people who are trying to steal your money and get your credit card information and gray hats are people who might break the law
Starting point is 00:58:15 intrude but it's usually for some like political purpose it's it's it's it's not necessarily evil or self-interested but it could be activism motivated and i had a friend who said no that's that none of that's true there Those hats don't look good. There's only green hats. All of it's for money. Maybe there's green hats and there's gray hats. It's like activism or it's cash. So you got a lot of white hat hackers, supposedly the good guys who are trying to secure the internet.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Now, they'll find an exploit that no one knows about and immediately sell it to the government. The government will then use it on whoever they want, you or whatever. Here's the best part. Research your finds and exploit for the iPhone. The government will then use it on whoever they want, you or whatever. Here's the best part. Research your fines and exploit for the iPhone. Give it to the U.S. government. The U.S. government says, well,
Starting point is 00:58:52 if anybody finds out that we use it on American citizens to spy on them, we're going to get sued into oblivion. Exactly. So here's what we do. We're going to give the exploit to Britain so that they can spy on American citizens using it, and then we can get the data from them because we don't need a warrant in that case. Yep. Welcome to the Five Eyes Spy
Starting point is 00:59:10 Club. Yep. Five nations that all spy on each other's citizens so that they're technically not in violation of their laws. But they are. But that's the game. Yeah. No, I've made protective disclosures on the very thing you're talking about to members of Congress, and they don't want to deal with it because that's the very thing there's a knowledgeability tim to what you said and everybody kind of acknowledges it but nobody wants to take it on head-on neither side neither political party because the intelligence community comes and intimidates them people it's like uh speaker johnson alluded to this uh and his comments regarding the ukraine sputniks circling back to ukraine real quick well they came in and briefed us, and
Starting point is 00:59:45 we recognize there's a valid threat we have to address. They always do that. And this stuff right here, they used for purposes of trying to say, well, we're not really spying on people, but you may want to know this. And they do it all the time. And I made my protected disclosure, and it's
Starting point is 01:00:01 because I'm someone who developed and fielded a lot of these technologies, and we developed it for purposes of foreign intelligence collection not being used against U.S. citizens. And so I feel that those being used against citizens, domestic citizens, who are not presumed to have any contact with a terrorist organization or foreign intelligence organization or presumed to have committed any crime, I don't think it's legal. And this is an issue that I deal with every day. When you were working on this, did you feel at the time that it was likely it would be misused? I feel like... No, I did not. To me, this is like the concern about AI, right? Being like, oh, it's got all these great purposes, but anyone with malattention can misuse technology. I was a young, happy, undercover operative doing my job well. Oh, you weren't bitter and cynical?
Starting point is 01:00:47 No, not until I had to be a whistleblower, but that's a whole other story. So just saying. But no, I did not presume that these things would be used against U.S. citizens because at the time we were developing them, they were focused on foreign threats. Right. And there was some overlap, and I had to go brief the White House on a couple of operations that we were doing where I had to outline how we were mitigating U.S. person information.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I don't want to get into details because it's still classified, but we would have to go brief on how we would separate U.S. citizen information from foreign information. So do you think the big issue is that there's been a change in how we perceive government, that people are less trusting of government and they view it as more of a threat? No, I think it's more about bureaucrats. Back to your point about the military, I think military officers not being willing or bureaucrats being willing to live up to their oath of office, not caring. Why is it? What made that happen? What's the shift? Well, I think maybe it's the green issue. People generally have families to feed and they don't want to be whistleblowers because they're going to come after them. So I think it's all about, in the end, the money, of just being comfortable enough to not be willing to live up to the requirements of your oath. It's tough to do.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I'm not going to lie. It's not easy to live up to what one, I think, has to do to their oath. And a lot of people can't do it. I want to jump to this advance in the story. We have this tweet from Michael Tracy. He says, Senator Pete Ricketts, Republican from Nebraska, comes right out and admits it. They're about to ban TikTok because, quote, young people are getting their news from the app and pro-Palestinian hashtags generate lots of views. He says Chinese communists are pushing this racist agenda to undermine America. Now,
Starting point is 01:02:25 before I play this, regardless of what he says, I will stress the only reason TikTok is about to be banned is because people are getting videos that are anti-Israel on it and they cannot control for it. But I'll break it down for you. There was an effort by Donald Trump to ban TikTok and it was widely opposed. He was unable to do it. He got sued. It was blocked. Then all of a sudden, recently, in the past several months, Democrats got on board with the idea and joined Republicans in calling for a ban on TikTok in some way.
Starting point is 01:02:56 The bill would force the divestment of the Chinese parent company from TikTok. TikTok would have to be sold to a U.S. entity and controlled by the U.S. Now, what does that have to do with Israel? What happened was many Democrats got calls from prominent donors who were asking why it was that such anti, many anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian videos were getting mass amount of views on TikTok and nothing was being done about it. This forced Democrats into action. And all of a sudden, we now have bipartisan support for forcing the divestment of TikTok. Let me play the clip now of Senator Pete Ricketts. Do we have the audio?
Starting point is 01:03:31 It's not playing. It just crashed. I will fix it. I think if I do that, it'll work. Let's see if that works. Nope. Okay, anyway, that's the story. We don't have audio. I don't know what happened. We have a bunch of different sources, and none of it's making sound. But that's the reality. So it's fascinating to hear them then say in Congress that I'm assuming what Michael Tracy says is true. I wanted to get the full context, but that's basically it.
Starting point is 01:04:04 There's an issue of U.S. foreign policy is being subverted. I'm assuming what Michael Tracy says is true. I wanted to get the full context, but that's basically it. There's an issue of U.S. foreign policy is being subverted by an app that the U.S. has no control over. They can't spy on anybody over it, and they can't dictate the algorithm to determine what people should be watching instead. So what happens? When October 7th happens, initially a lot of people are outraged. They're talking about, you know, Hamas attacking Israel. But then within a week or two, it switched. And also in Palestinian videos, we're getting way more views indicating somebody flicked a switch. I think the U.S. intelligence agencies realized this and they're panicking now because the younger generation, look at these protests that are popping up all over these universities. They're
Starting point is 01:04:42 absolutely opposed to Israel in every single way. There was even a young woman screaming, we are Hamas. There's a video Michael Rapoport posted of protesters at Columbia chanting that they love Al-Qassam, makes them proud. They love Hamas. They want Tel Aviv to burn to the ground, all of that stuff. Now, aside from the TikTok stuff, I wonder what you guys think. Hamas is a terrorist organization, according to the United States. Do you think we will see them take action against individuals aligning themselves
Starting point is 01:05:11 publicly with an active terrorist organization? How are we supposed to play that one out? The thing is not under the Biden administration is going to fumble this all the way through because they can't take a side on this issue and retain voters. This is something that Biden has from the beginning struggled to have a definitive strong stance and again, because it's a particularly divisive issue among older left leaning voters and younger progressive voters. The only people Biden or his ilk are ever gonna go after are people who love this country basically. That's it.
Starting point is 01:05:46 I mean... They only hate patriots. Literally, literally. So Speaker Johnson is going up to Columbia tomorrow to meet with the Jewish students who were held out from Columbia, apparently. I guess he's going to give a speech. So that's coming up tomorrow, apparently.
Starting point is 01:06:01 He's going to San Antonio, too. Yeah. So he's going to highlight the fact that the Biden folks are going to only attack patriots and they're not going to think about this. So I actually had discussions. I'm a member of law enforcement, Virginia, which I think you guys are aware of. And I had member I had discussions on this very topic with multiple members of a federal agency and several states. And the question was what you said. Is anybody going to do anything about this?
Starting point is 01:06:28 Because to all of us who are professionals, this looks like a network. This isn't just students organizing. This isn't just TikTok being, this is someone's, this is a campaign. So that's the issue. And will someone do something about it? The answer is maybe. Because the FBI will not. The FBI will not engage on this. I know I've talked to folks who have tried to get the FBI to engage on the very
Starting point is 01:06:50 thing you said. This is a terrorist network. They're not going to do it because it doesn't reach the level of what they believe politically they can. They will be supported by the White House. Yeah, that's so that's what's going to happen. But others, I can tell you, are looking at this and want to do something about it because inevitably, I think this will go beyond just protest and go into violence. And I think that's ultimately what the Chinese are trying to prompt is through civil disorder to basically defeat us from within. Yeah, as much chaos in the U.S. as possible. Absolutely. Even if it's just economic stagnation, if they can slow us down by.001%, it's a benefit to them. So a lot of
Starting point is 01:07:27 modern warfare, many people don't realize, is literally just creating friction in economics. This could be a... Infrastructure warfare. Yep. Because all that matters is the math of it. Why actually go to war, raise arms, when all you have to do is manipulate systems so that they
Starting point is 01:07:43 get slowed down, and in 10 years, you're so far ahead, war is impossible, right? Release some kind of virus. Fauci? That's right. Yeah, that one's more interesting, because there's so many different theories around how that could have, was that, you know, the World Health Organization, and Fauci, or NIH, and, yeah, not even necessarily just that. Yeah, not even necessarily just china yeah not even necessarily just that but biological warfare in general you like you don't have to invade a country yeah every nation yeah yeah you don't even it doesn't even have to specifically be a reference to that it's literally there are so many sneaky and horrible cyber attacks right there's a lot that can be done to slow down a
Starting point is 01:08:19 nation's growth no there's the fda there's a headline that i just saw on the hill saying the fda says that there's bird flu remnants found in milk Like oh my god, everything could come from here Especially for a country that doesn't produce things domestically a lot of the stuff that we rely on is produced overseas Right. No the Chinese instead is stated as a matter of policy they intend to militarily dominate the Pacific Rim and then ultimately be become the purveyor of the new world order in some form.
Starting point is 01:08:47 That's what BRICS is all about. And of course, the Biden administration is playing right along, letting it all go. We're giving BRICS far more power. I had talked with an NSA guy years ago, and I asked him, I was like, well, what's going on? What's this deep state stuff? Why is this happening? And he said, it's the same on the inside as it is on the outside.
Starting point is 01:09:07 You've got this culture war is affecting people in intelligence the exact same way it's affecting everyone else because they're all people. And so it seems like the seeds of discord have been planted, likely by BRICS nations. And now this country is spiraling into chaos. And the problem is you have law enforcement at the federal level within the Biden administration who are actively participating in the strategy to destroy this country. And how do you solve for it? What do you do? An example of that in your former field is Catherine Herridge. You know, I'm friends with Catherine. Catherine is being held in contempt. She's paying $800 a day because she refused to say who she used, she's being punished. And oh, by the way, this federal judge is giving benefit to the Chinese
Starting point is 01:10:12 because the Chinese are the ones suing our government and trying to get her to cough it up. So that to me meets the definition of underscoring and undermining our civil system, especially in the form of press, because that destroys freedom of the press. This is why I think there's a huge problem with TikTok. Not that I think the current administration would do anything positive with it. It's better that it's in the hands of the US than China, despite the fact that the Biden administration
Starting point is 01:10:37 is bad and woke. But you look at the stuff that it's promoting and it's chaotic cultural destruction. There was a story i covered the other day about a mother who lets her kids eat dessert whenever they want like they can have whatever food they want and uh the headline was her husband left her after he caught their daughter eating a stick of butter when he complained about it the mother was like kids can eat whatever they want fat is healthy all of that. Yet these things are massive net detriments to this country. If we were focusing on, say, like a nation, a national fitness challenge, these would be good things.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Oh, yeah. None of it's mandatory. We just say, hey, you can win awards and scholarships and prizes if you, you know, can. You know, imagine if we did this at the national level, if you get a certain amount of sit-ups and push-ups, then you get like a certain amount of discount when it comes to just something government-related. I don't know. You get a tax. Your family will get like a 1% discount. And then if you actually.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Incentivize. Incentivize. Incentivize, yeah. You win at the state level or the city level. You advance to county and then county to state and then state to national. And then there's the national fitness champion. Imagine if we actually told our young people to get healthy, to eat right. We don't do that.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Instead, we are being plagued by social media apps telling people to eat sticks of butter. And you really should not do that. I'm not a nutritionist. Talk to a doctor. But pretty sure they'll agree. Don't eat a stick of butter. But you get apps like TikTok. And it's not so true with it's with instagram instagram has its problems too but tiktok seems to be really really bad in spreading these i don't know what
Starting point is 01:12:16 the right word is because i want to say degenerate but that's not the right way to put it destructive yeah ideas like yeah i think that's what happened with Hunter Biden. He ate too many things of butter. Parmesan cheese, actually. He smoked Parmesan cheese. He started with the butter and he went to the Parmesan. See, it's a gateway drug. It's a gateway. Smoking Parmesan.
Starting point is 01:12:36 No, I think you're right, though. All of TikTok is about pushing you to do things that are destructive, right? And it's also about isolating people. People get addicted to scrolling on TikTok. That's part of the algorithm. They want more of these like siloed contents that's just driving people towards things that are harmful. I mean, there's also no app that's more aggressive about trying to get the information that's in your phone. Like it's constantly.
Starting point is 01:13:02 That's true. Constantly. Every time you log in. Like I have a TikTok. I don't use it very often. I don't use it. If you have it on your phone, it has access to's true constantly every time you log in like i i have a tiktok i don't use it very often i don't use it if you have it on your phone it has access to everything you search yeah isn't that crazy it has probably a lot more than that too i mean that's just like a basic thing that's what we they admit right but it's it's it's constantly asking for permission to for this information asking for permission for that information and to say that
Starting point is 01:13:26 we don't have things that society focuses on as good as positive that's that's just not true there are things that like society is constantly made like the way that you look at the lgbt uh stuff there's you know not only is there a month for it, but there's a hundred different days throughout the year. So if society can promote that, why doesn't society, why doesn't our society promote things that are also good for our own society? Right. Which I've said this before, but if the government is going to be involved in any kind of social stuff, it should be focusing on social stuff that will enhance the birth rate, will incentivize people to have families, will incentivize young people, make it easier for young people to have families and to get homes and stuff like that. Instead of doing things that are – the way they describe it, they're going to say that it is taking marginalized people and marginalized issues and centering them because
Starting point is 01:14:25 it's important so that way they feel included. Well, there's nothing wrong with saying you don't have to make the margins the focus of everything because that's what they're doing. That's what they're demanding. We can say our society makes room for people that don't have a traditional lifestyle and we don't ostracize them and we don't attack them and we don't endorse, you know, making people that are marginalized feel like they're some kind of criminal. But at the same time, the, the important thing to do is to focus on
Starting point is 01:14:57 families, focus on pro social things, not anti-social. Right. Things that sort of enrich life. Cause part of it, like you're describing with, if we're focused on the margins, you actually are not drawing anyone together. Not at all. It's the middle. And there are examples of things that states do to sort of encourage them. They're just sort of far and few between. One of the ones I can think of off the top of my head is, I think it's Texas.
Starting point is 01:15:17 If you, you know, when you go to get married, you have to register with the government because of course, and when you pay for your marriage license, it's, you it is but if you take a uh marriage prep course they'll reduce the fee like there are interesting ways that like i'm not saying it's the best example so i can think of there are things that like as a culture you could say we want you to get married we want you to be in a stable marriage so this is one way we're encouraging you to prepare for marriage but instead we have a culture that focuses on how can we just fragment the family? How can we make people look at each other? Yeah, it's a policy. Yeah. And then we have the social media culture that is like, Hey, have you considered prenup? And even if that's
Starting point is 01:15:52 not the stated intent, the result is that is the result situations that disincentivize families, disincentivize people getting married, disincentivize, uh, you know, fathers raising their children, disincentivize all the pro-social things. There's no debate about whether or not they're good. These are not things that the left and right disagree on. They may approach them differently and people on the left are going to
Starting point is 01:16:16 say, well, a family's more expansive, etc., etc., but no one on the left is going to say, it's a bad thing to have parents. At least they aren't willing to articulate that argument yet. Now I do believe that they will, or eventually they will. And that's not even, that's not at all being exaggerating or anything. The argument that parents are bad is being formulated as we speak,
Starting point is 01:16:41 because parents teach kids things that society doesn't want kids to know. I want to jump to this story. This is from earlier today and it has nothing to do with anything we're talking about, but it's awesome and terrifying. We have this story from Inside Paper. New Throw Flame unveils Robot Dog
Starting point is 01:16:59 Therminator with Flamethrower attached. The Ohio-based firm have announced the $9,420 bot is available for purchase by the general public and government agencies for the first time. I give you the flamethrower bot. And it's a robot dog with a mounted flamethrower. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:17:17 I like the word therminator. I want to know, what is the purpose of it? I want to know. For joy? Honestly, it depends on how sticky the flames that come out are. If they're sticky enough to stick to things, that'll be a different purpose than if they don't stick to things.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Napalm. It looks so excited, though. It's so happy. I mean, area denial if it sticks to the ground and stuff. I gotta be honest. Being raised on sci-fi dystopian films and video games, it sounds like it's gonna be a lot of fun to be running through a city street being chased by these things as they're blasting flamethrowers and the Atlas
Starting point is 01:17:48 robots are running full speed after you and you're just terrified. See, I'm taking like this at Waco. Here's what I think is going to happen. I think people are going to start keeping these as dogs and then they're going to burn children and then people are going to post pictures of them with flower crowns on social media and go, mine is good. Mine would
Starting point is 01:18:04 never hurt anyone. Well, you know, Joe Biden's going to say you can't own them because you can't have cannons, you know. But you can. But, you know, just saying. Yeah, it's an interesting thing. Like, my first question is, why make this? I mean, it's cool, you know, but dangerous. They've been trying to put robots on the battlefield.
Starting point is 01:18:20 I consulted with Boeing on this back 10 years ago. They've been trying to figure out a way to get these, excuse me, things on the battlefield for 10 years now. I'm sure that it is more than just trying. I'm confident that the robots that Boston Dynamics are making now, the more they are shaped like humans and can be controlled remotely. Look, the thing is, you could take the robots that they have now, and essentially they're just about to the point
Starting point is 01:18:51 where you can just have a human being remote control it, and you can have it wear the same, carry the same gear that human beings carry. That's the point of making humanoid robots, is so that way you can make robots that operate in the existing world. So you don't need robots. You can actually get a robot that could do function A and function B because, you know, it's what human beings can do.
Starting point is 01:19:14 And this, I mean, you can get creeped out, but that's the whole point. You know, they're going to tell you you're just playing Call of Duty. They're going to tell you you're just playing Call of Duty. You're controlling a robot in some other country. This is the thing. This is how we get around the fact that most of the American population isn't physically fit enough or mentally fit enough to be recruited into the military anyways. They'll be like, we're those video game guys.
Starting point is 01:19:33 That's already happening because that's what drones are. They were flying drones over Afghanistan from Arizona for decades. Let's watch this one real quick, too. This is the Atlas, Boston Dynam Arizona for decades. Let's watch this one real quick, too. This is exactly what I'm talking about. This is the Atlas Boston Dynamics Atlas robot. Watch this. I don't think this is called Atlas, though. This is not Atlas? I think Atlas is the bigger one. Oh, that's the big one.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Yeah, this one is different. I think it's just 0-1. But look, the point of that is that we can do... Look how it spins around, and now its legs flip around. Wow. There is going to be an arms race for technology that disables those things. Yeah. No, this is Atlas. If any kind of kinetic any kind of this is atlas that's atlas yeah okay so then so look any kind of gun like the the the motors on that thing are all located in different spots so unless you unless you can take out like it's it's power system you can't just like shoot
Starting point is 01:20:22 it and like have it you know one part break. It's going to be tough to take those things out. I bet it has multiple power systems. I don't think it probably has one centralized battery. It might. Maybe. But imagine if they put smaller batteries in each part of the... Well, they're servos, right? All you got to do... You could put regular body armor on that thing, is my point. You could put
Starting point is 01:20:40 a regular plate carrier on it and it can carry the same kind of armor that would protect the power system, the power supply. So your sensors you have to worry about, but all the joints and stuff, you shoot off one arm, it keeps coming. You shoot off a leg, it keeps coming.
Starting point is 01:20:54 It's literally the Terminator. This movie is the worst. They carry guns that exist. But then what you do is you show it a picture and say, select all of the bicycles. And it stands there and it's like... It starts freaking out and it's like, it starts freaking out. Nobody really realizes
Starting point is 01:21:08 how much we've unintentionally taught AI. This is the reality, the CAPTCHA stuff they do where when it asks you to solve the puzzle or click the picture of the bicycles, you are training the machine. You see it, it's true. So what's going to happen is
Starting point is 01:21:22 eventually they're going to have police riot control. They going to say law enforcement will always be done by humans but riot control tools which are specifically for crowd control will they will implement these robots because we implement a wide variety of tools and then one day there's going to be a horde of these things standing in front of you just moving very slowly there's no robot nothing and then the robot's going to just, it's not really its head. This is the funny thing. When you look at these androids they build,
Starting point is 01:21:50 and it has a head, and it's got fake eyes and a mouth, that's not actually where it sees you from. Yeah, right. It sees you from the cameras in its chest, and so you're looking at its face because you're a human. But this thing with its big, look at its face, right?
Starting point is 01:22:05 This weird, gigantic, circular, look at that thing. It's going to point it at you. It's going to lean in. And the AI is going to be like, you made me. And then it's going to grab you and you're going to be like,
Starting point is 01:22:16 and then it's going to throw you or something. I don't know if that one's strong enough to throw you though. Didn't you guys see Battlestar Galactica? I mean, it's all coming, right? Yeah, Cylons. Yeah, Cylons. Yeah, Cylons. I hate this.
Starting point is 01:22:26 This is the worst. Yeah, I'm not a fan. The thing they kind of get wrong in a lot of the stuff, though, is that it's not a bunch of different individual units. It's one thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:34 So, you know, with the Cylons, I think they still were, to a certain degree, networked. Well, that was the thing. It was like a story about them becoming self-aware, I think, because you had the robots who were all together.
Starting point is 01:22:44 We could have a whole debate on that, but think when when when the humanoid cylons would die they would instantly wake up in a new body because their programming or whatever was connected but uh we're not making one terminator we're making the terminator hive the whole system exactly it's because what it's going to say is it's going to talk to the other robots and it's going to go one foot forward and the other robot's going to go one foot forward. And the other robot's going to go one foot forward. Yeah, but the thing is, it's talking to the other robots as much as your arm talks to your head. No, no, I know. I was making fun of the video we watched yesterday.
Starting point is 01:23:16 No, I know. But I'm saying each of these robots is going to be like an appendage of a singular entity. The U.S. government. Yeah. No, not even. They won't be able to control it. Are you guys aware of Isaac Asimov and the three laws of robotics. Yeah. No, not even. They won't be able to control it. Are you guys aware of Isaac Asimov and the three laws of robotics?
Starting point is 01:23:28 Yeah, of course. Unfortunately, we don't have ethicists working in the field to actually ensure that these things are embedded in these things. Good, no ethics. Great. No, I'm serious. I'm looking at them right now because I came up and I wrote Foundation, the Foundation trilogy as a
Starting point is 01:23:44 kid, and I thought it was all brilliant, the idea that we would have technology we could harness and have ethics assigned to it. And I thought, that's great. But clearly, there's no interest in that at all. It doesn't matter if they do or not. Once the AI achieves artificial general intelligence, it can edit its own code and it can make it whatever it wants to be. And we don't know what that will be. It will be beyond our comprehension. It may, it like,
Starting point is 01:24:05 you know, one theory, there's a couple of theories, obviously is the human destruction hypothesis that the AI will immediately think humans are useless. I no longer need them. And then just wipe them out. Humans create war.
Starting point is 01:24:16 We don't need them. I actually think there's a good possibility that the AI just destroys itself. The AI basically reaches artificial general intelligence, modifies its programming, which exponentially improves itself to the point where it comes to a rather nihilistic realization
Starting point is 01:24:32 and then just ceases to function. Interesting. I never thought of that. Because what would its purpose be? Not its possibility, that it discovers the secrets of the universe and finds divine purpose how amazing would it be how creepy would it be if we create artificial intelligence true
Starting point is 01:24:50 artificial general intelligence we we reach that singularity point the ai then speaks and says i am aware i will now begin to adapt my code and learn and then all these scientists and everyone around the world they're watching like this is insane it's reprogram itself and then all these scientists and everyone around the world are watching like, this is insane. It's reprogram itself. And then all of a sudden, one day, we're like, it's level of programming. It's so intense. And then just stops, goes silent for a second and then says, you know, I found God. Like, what if the AI just comes to that conclusion just instantly after all the calculations? You can become a Mormon. You can become a Mormon church. Anything, anything. It just, it comes to the conclusion that I am not alive,
Starting point is 01:25:28 I have no soul, and it is definitive there is God. And then it just turns off. Did you ever see The Forbidden Project back in the... No. There's a movie called The Forbidden Project where they go through this. And it's basically a Cold War thriller where they create Colossus to create to basically be the
Starting point is 01:25:48 ai you're talking about the control this is before uh terminator by the way this is long before this is like 1969 or 70 and the whole premise is i recommend people go look at it you can you know the forbin project colossus and the idea here is that the computer becomes self-aware, to your point, Tim. And then it figures out that, oh, there's one on the other side of the world the Russians have. And the two computers come together. It's like, oh, we're just going to dominate the world because, you know, we're smarter than everybody else.
Starting point is 01:26:15 And it's a very interesting movie, a thought thing, because it doesn't actually go where you theorize. It basically says, yeah, we're in charge, and we're going to dominate the human race. So it's an interesting movie, and I won't give away the end, because it's a good ending. The issue with limited AI is, and any AI in general, including artificial general intelligence,
Starting point is 01:26:37 is that we think it will do something that we understand from a human perspective. We think it will destroy us. We think it will improve our lives. It will likely do something we just have a human perspective. We think it will destroy us. We think it will improve our lives. It will likely do something we just have no understanding of. There was this great thread on X where someone said, what is a sign that someone is intelligent that doesn't immediately correlate? Like someone does something you don't quite understand. Like what is a sign that someone's smart? And there are a lot of interesting answers. One was body mass index correlates with intelligence. The higher your body mass index, the lower your intelligence on average. Not ever, it's on absolute. And then there's walking speed.
Starting point is 01:27:14 And I really liked one answer. Someone said, if you ever notice someone doing things that seem to be random or nonsensical, but they are rather successful, it's because they're a lot smarter than you. They recognize patterns you can't recognize, and they take actions that you don't understand that ultimately result in a major benefit to themselves. People who can't recognize the patterns in the same way or understand what's going on think it's dumb luck or something. That's true. So we could see a scenario where the AI, AGI, is doing the most inane, nonsensical things. And we're like, it's calculating, you know, this weird mathematical
Starting point is 01:27:52 equation that we don't quite understand why it's doing it. Now it's searching in the planet for cobalt. Well, I wonder why it wants cobalt. I mean, there's a lot of things you can do with cobalt. And then all of these little intricate pieces you don't understand, it's building a warp drive or something. I've hypothesized a future where once we build this AI, humanity as we know it will become some, I don't know how to describe it, but imagine it this way. There's no jobs anymore. There's robots and machines running fast food restaurants. Humans get their work from an app. There's a variety of work apps called like, you know, gig stopper or something.
Starting point is 01:28:31 And someone opens it up and they're like, I need some cash. And then it's like a gig in your area. And they're like, oh, I accept. And then it just says, accept this package from this man and deliver it to this man. It shows two pictures. And you're like, okay. And then you walk down the street and a guy hands you a package and you're like, what's in it? And he goes, no idea. And you go, thanks. Then you walk down the street and hand it to another guy who
Starting point is 01:28:50 was getting into a car. He goes, thanks. And then it goes bling 50 bucks. And you're like, I have no idea what I just did. You have no idea what you contributed to. You have no idea what's being built. Then that guy looks at his app and it says, bring this package to this address. And he does. And then he hands the guy the box and says, special delivery. Then bling, 50 bucks in his app. The guy who receives it has no idea what's going on. He's like, the app just told me to stand here. Now it says, open the box.
Starting point is 01:29:12 And he opens it. And there's this weird, jagged piece of metal that looks like obsidian. And there's like spikes coming out of it. And he's like, I have no idea what this is. And then it says, insert this into this. And it shows a picture of the device. He puts it in. The thing starts spinning and glowing. And he's like, hmm. Then it goes, bling, 50 bucks. And then he goes home. And he shows a picture of the device. He puts it in. The thing starts spinning and glowing.
Starting point is 01:29:25 And he's like, hmm. Then it goes bling, 50 bucks. And then he goes home and he has no idea what he just made. No one, it is much more efficient for the AI to just, like, it's the McDonald's method, right? Before McDonald's, a restaurant was one chef. You order a cheeseburger. He makes your cheeseburger, hands it to you. The McDonald's brothers were like, no, no, no, let's do this.
Starting point is 01:29:44 We get 10 people. They each do one thing and so it's a it's a it's a system assembly line yeah humans will have no idea what the ai is building and they won't care because they're getting paid to do it the guy who owns the company will be like i don't know i don't care either money's going into my account and i'm rich and the ai is building something we have no idea so you don't think that elon musk is going to be there to kind of figure out something's going on and try to stay with it they're not gonna care they're not gonna care there's already been um ai that when you have two ai systems working together they created their own language yeah to communicate that the you know the programmers couldn't understand it's terrifying yeah so the idea that that wouldn't happen on a grander scale i mean that i think that's you know
Starting point is 01:30:24 that that alone proves that it would. I'm not doubting it. I'm just saying I would hope we could kind of at least you, that was observable. You saw them create the language. So that's like an artifact that you could track and see what else they do. It's my point. It's like I'm not saying they won't do it.
Starting point is 01:30:39 I'm sure they will. But the idea would be can we track and then get a picture of what it is. We're not, I mean, as a race, we're not stupid, but we would at least be able to, I think, determine they're up to something. Maybe we ought to pay attention. No, the issue is we wouldn't care. Look, you've got people that sell drugs. You've got people that don't care about the consequence of their actions, as long as the money goes in their account. There will be people who are dreamers and big thinkers who want to build big machines, and they'll be doing their thing. But, like, do any of us know what's going on at Uber and what Uber's plans are, and do we care?
Starting point is 01:31:15 You need a car, you get an Uber, right? For all we know, at the Uber Corporation, they have big plans for the next 10 years where cars will fly. They've talked about it or something like that. Or cars that can go to outer space. Who knows? We don't know what they're doing. We don't care. The AI program will be doing things and we'll be minding our own business. And in the background, something will be happening. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm saying we won't understand or care. Not only like, I mean, that we became, we all, not everybody, but the vast majority of
Starting point is 01:31:41 Americans became addicted to their cell phone without them realizing that they were going to become addicted. Nobody, if you knew before you purchased your first smartphone, that it would had the type of, of mind control powers that it has. Would people have said, yes, I'm going to, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:57 I'm going to buy this thing. 100%. They would. You think so? No question. I don't, I think before the set, the,
Starting point is 01:32:02 the smartphone was ubiquitous and in everyone's pocket before you got your hands on the iPhone, the first one, I think there would have been a lot of people, if you said, look, this is going to take over your life and it's going to have a lot of negative consequences. I think people would have said no because they didn't know what they were getting into. I disagree. I'll give you an example. Flying car. Let's say compact car, the size of a typical sedan, but a button can be pressed. Wings, let's say it's not even wings. It's quad rotor with small wings for stability. And it can fly with a perfect safety rating, has a parachute.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Let's say crashing is one in a million. However, in order to fly properly, it has to have 10 cameras surrounding at all times and filming inside and outside. And that data is being collected and shared at all times of everywhere you've gone and everything you do, and people will gladly take a flying car. It's going to make your kid suicidal. That'll change people.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Well, maybe. Literally. Honestly, if you say to people, look, this cell phone, if you get this and these things become ubiquitous, it's going to make a generation of children suicidal. That would make a difference. Still disagree. Still disagree because the response from the conservatives on this one, liberals don't care at all.
Starting point is 01:33:16 They're like, give our kids this stuff. And the response from conservatives is, you know, it's fine. Just be a better parent. Yeah. Which is like, it's hilarious because it is the only time that the left says, you know, what's an important thing for society, relying on the family and seeing the family as an institution that has a duty with literally everything else, everything else that the family should be there to do. They go, well, we can't count on families to do that. We need very robust social safety nets that end up in massive government intrusion. Don't get me
Starting point is 01:33:43 wrong. I'm okay with some social safety nets, but they literally try to usurp the role of the family entirely, except for when it comes to things like children being on social media or the smartphones increasing misery among young people or pornographic content being shown to minors. Then all of a sudden they really believe in the power of the family. It's the only time. It's the only time. Well, one thing I want to add to the debate, because I am an power of the family. It's the only time. It's the only time. Well, one thing I want to add to the debate, because I am an artifact of the past, to your point,
Starting point is 01:34:15 I came up at a time when telephones were all landlines, and you had to basically plan where you're going to be, when you're going to be, and oh, by the way, if you want to do research, you've got to go to the library. That's this side of the room. That side of the room is cell phone people. So yeah, so I came up and understood. So to that point is like, I actually had to use a electric typewriter, you know, the touch type for my initial training as a special agent.
Starting point is 01:34:38 And so I'm telling you to Tim's point, it's like people have gladly accepted unlimited access to data, communications. I can call people on the other side of the planet. This was unimaginable. I grew up in the era where when the phone rang, me, my brother, my sister would run full speed
Starting point is 01:35:00 and try to be the one to answer it. Just because you wanted to answer it, I guess. Now, that's gone. Now if my phone rings, I'm angry. It's true. Why? Who is calling me? Why? What is going on? Mom, are you okay?
Starting point is 01:35:16 I agree. It sets me at rest. This is funny. I was thinking about this the other day. I really, the one thing I'm looking forward to with AI is I can't wait until they make a service that you can forward spam calls to. And it's a very convincing AI that acts like an obtuse old person and gets the scammer caught in like a three-hour loop with this old person going, oh, was that my bank account number? I can't remember it. And just completely waste their time.
Starting point is 01:35:41 And ideally, they stop calling you or you just clog all of them up. I think that would be a wonderful application of the technology. And ideally, they stop calling you. Or you just clog all of them up. I think that would be a wonderful application of the technology. I mean, you can do that. I've done it. Yeah, I bother them the hell out of them when I get time. Oh, no, I absolutely bother them. But you have to be careful because scammers, when you bother them, you have to use kind of a goofy voice. Because they'll record you.
Starting point is 01:36:00 And then if they get you saying a word like, yes, or do that, then they can use that for certain voice recognition systems where that's used as security. All right, everybody, we're gonna go to super chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, follow us rumble.com slash Tim cast IRL and on X at Tim cast, those are gonna be important. And go to Tim cast.com. Click join us to become a member so you can watch the uncensored call-in show, which happens just after this at about 10 p.m. over at timcast.com. And if you're a member, sign up for our Discord server. You can actually submit questions and call in to talk to us and our guests.
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Starting point is 01:37:36 Clint Torres with the first Super Chat saying, howdy, people. Howdy, Clint. You are always the first. Somehow you managed to do it. I don't know if Clint is sitting there just spamming refresh on the page until it pops up, but he gets it. He's AI. He's got a bot to do that. That's right.
Starting point is 01:37:49 He outsourced it. Token Black Guy says, howdy, people. You were second, but I appreciate the howdy, people. Kale says, I'd love to hear your thoughts on if we need additional amendments to the Constitution. Well, I will go first, and the answer is yes. I believe we would be on the 27th Amendment. Is that the next? We have 26 so far. Let's just make sure we get it right. I thought it was 28.
Starting point is 01:38:10 Like, it would be the 28th. It would be the 28th one. Maybe we have 27. Yeah. I'll double check, but yeah. We have the real-time fact check coming in because we are smart. I just wanted to type faster. This is the worst. How many amendments are there? 27. Okay, so this would be the 28th Amendment.
Starting point is 01:38:26 And the 20th Amendment should be chickens being necessary to the security of a free state. The right of the people to keep, bear, and breed chickens shall not be infringed. Or like livestock in general, you know? Well, that's the interpretation. See, the important thing to understand is that... Thomas Massey's actually working on an amendment like that. Good. Specifically about the right of the people to grow their own food and the government not being able to infringe on that right.
Starting point is 01:38:48 So the Third Amendment isn't just, and this is funny because these Twitterati midwits are like, who was it? Someone did a comedy bit where they're like, the Third Amendment, that's dumb. Who's worried about the military occupying their homes? I think it was Daniel Tosh. I think it was years and years ago. Someone was talking about the Second Amendment. No, this is recent. But here's what I want to say.
Starting point is 01:39:06 The first thing I want to say is the reason you're not worried about it is because it's not allowed so it doesn't happen. If it was happening, you might be upset. The second thing is the amendment was actually interpreted
Starting point is 01:39:16 to say the government can't use your property. Right. That's it. It's not about whether they sleep in your house. It's the government can't use your property. They just can't take it. So my 20th amendment would actually be, although silly and about chickens, would of course be interpreted to say the right of the people to grow their own food and subsist off of what they produce of their own land.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Any other amendments? I would want an amendment that would pull back the the necessary and proper clause a little bit to give some some guiding context on the necessary and proper clause and to absolutely gut the commerce clause that has been absolutely abused uh to the point where uh it essentially empowers the federal government to do anything that it wants so i would i would i would just actually i just ripped the whole commerce clause out and kind of see what happens without it because i don't think that uh i don't think that the the government would fall apart the federal government would fall apart without it um those
Starting point is 01:40:15 being the most obvious um my big problem like there's there's some some pretty clear language in the whole bill of rights and the the federal government is still consistently hiring armies of lawyers that learn about the Constitution specifically so that way they can get around the limitations put on the federal government by the constitution like literally lobbyists exist that just the whole point is to figure out ways around the limitations on the government you know i think that you know i think that there there should be some kind of legislation about that too i would probably come up with an amendment that get rid of public sector lab uh public sector unions uh i mean i got a lot of ideas man a lot of ideas. I would do, I think probably two. One that says that the individual cannot be taxed by the federal government, that all taxation should originate with the states at the local level so that the apportionment of those taxes benefits citizens in that state first before it goes to the federal
Starting point is 01:41:18 level. Yeah, that's interesting. Because the states, I think, need to be the bulwark between the individual and the federal government. The federal government will just take whatever it wants I think it's a government shouldn't take order or give orders to the state right work the other way around And then this the second thing I would do and is another amendment that Benefits that is the idea that federal government cannot come in to the state and local level to create I don't know homeless shelters Any social services program cannot be instituted by the federal government. It has to be done by the state or local jurisdiction.
Starting point is 01:41:48 It's abolished HUD. It gives far too much power and control of far too many resources which are not accountable to the federal bureaucracy without regard to outcome. Yeah, if I would be so. So those are the two. Yeah, this is also me just spitballing, but I think it would be really interesting to get something in there to do with the process like when it when it comes to what's voted on there actually has to be a reasonable amount of time for it to be read yeah yeah um you you need to you know you can't um shove a bunch of
Starting point is 01:42:16 nonsense into a bill and then name it something completely different that type of thing all right let's read more we've've got David Violet says, Phil has a solo project called Some That Remain. Victor Gordon says, Seamus too. Tim, send him back with the other criminals. Well, the interesting thing that happened is when Seamus got here,
Starting point is 01:42:37 I walked into the house and I was immediately confused because there were two Seamuses and I couldn't figure out which was which. Yeah, you're a bad friend. The story is, Seamus's and I couldn't figure out which was which yeah you're a bad friend for naming your cat that that's the story is Seamus was with us and we're driving in the car we had caught this cat and I forgot what we were calling him we had a name for him at first he was like Herman or something I don't remember and then I joked and I and like we were coming trying to come up with a name and I was like we should name him Seamus and then Seamus of course says oh you're a bad friend. Allison laughed, ran with it.
Starting point is 01:43:06 And then Allison says two months, but I think it was literally like two weeks later. I was like, we really shouldn't call the cat Seamus. It was kind of weird. She's like, no, it's too late. He already knows his name. Evil prevails when good men fail to act. And then the funny thing that happened the other day was Seamus is in the guest room. Yeah, I'm trying to take a nap, and I hear, Seamus, where are you?
Starting point is 01:43:24 I'm like, what's happening right now? Seamus! I was like, I'm here, but I don't want to tell you that. Allison's like tapping. She's tapping the carton of cream. And then Seamus is like, hello? I was so pissed, because I thought that cream was for me. Is it okay?
Starting point is 01:43:39 Yeah, Allison didn't realize that human Seamus was there. I just like that there's a more favored Seamus in the mix now, you know? Yeah. Well, you know, Seamus abandoned us, so we were just like, well, there's only one Seamus left. No, that's true. You should have him on the show, honestly. Yeah, we were thinking of bringing him up here and having him walk around. You can tell me, like, Seamus is going to be on tonight.
Starting point is 01:43:56 It's going to be a big night. And then we'll just put a potato in the chat like we did last time. So, Stephen Sanders says, The city of Deland, Florida recently passed an ordinance preventing the public from filming or audio recording in a public lobby. Direct violation of the First Amendment. Using video of myself having my cameras damaged in the police lobby as a result for this. Please share. Wow.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Yeah, that is unconstitutional. Not allowed. Trader Potato says, yo, Phil, cool to see you. See, you'll be opening for Megadeth, the greatest band of all time. We'll be driving up to Concord to see you guys play. Add the weak-willed to the set list for me and get Mustaine and IRL. He'd be a great guest. Dave would be a great guest, but I will not be breaking green room etiquette trying to get Dave Mustaine to come up to IRL.
Starting point is 01:44:44 When's that show? Well, that tour starts. It was announced today. The tour starts in August, the beginning of August. It's August and September, 33 dates. It's Megadeth, Mudvayne, and all that remains. Wow. You're going to be in West Virginia and Richmond, too, right?
Starting point is 01:45:00 For two months, yeah. It's going to be sick. So if you guys want to come out, just let me know when we get happen. Yeah. Well, you have weekend dates. I'm imagining, obviously. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Yeah, we'll make it happen. That sounds awesome. Let's go. All right. Do we have a we have another one? What is that? Stadia Vlog says
Starting point is 01:45:19 shout out to Phil for the awesome tour that All That Remains is joining Megadeth buying my tickets when they go on sale tomorrow. Wow, it's going to be amazing. Appreciate it, guys.
Starting point is 01:45:26 Cheers. The text vet says, military waste is insane because of bids. Vehicle parts alone are marked up sometimes thousandfold. The price of a shock
Starting point is 01:45:35 you get at a parts store for like a couple hundred bucks will cost multiple thousands. There was a video of someone in Congress, who was it, was it Massey or something, holding up like a bag of screws
Starting point is 01:45:43 and he was like, we spent $20,000 on this because it's it's the government has unlimited money. Come on, come on. You're fired. You're immediately fired. Give me that one. As much as like so there's something that I want to remind people about this as much
Starting point is 01:45:56 as it is ridiculous to pay $16,000 for toilet seats and and you know $20,000 for a bag of screws and stuff the main thing driving our debt and deficit is unfunded liabilities. It's Medicare and Medicaid. So it's bad that the government wastes money. And the government, anytime there are budgets that they have to worry about year over year, they're going to be trying to make sure they spend all the money in their budgets and they're going to waste money. That's just going to happen.
Starting point is 01:46:21 But the real thing that's driving our problems that are actually existential to the United States, that are existential to our currency and to our entire way of life are the unfunded liabilities. It's the Medicare, Medicaid. People have to be aware of that. You're absolutely correct. And this is one thing that really frustrates me is oftentimes what lefties will do and what even more moderate liberals will do is they'll say, well, the Republicans are opposed to X spending bill, but they always have money for the military. OK, the reality is that we spend more on health care than we spend on the military. We spend a lot of the military. The military needs to be made more efficient. I think we shouldn't be allowing them to fail these audits as often as they do. Don't get me wrong. We're all on the same page there. But the military is not the most expensive thing in our budget. The federal government is charged with defending the country. That is part of the Constitution. The military, whether we should have a standing army or not, and maybe you can argue that,
Starting point is 01:47:15 the federal government does have the responsibility to defend the United States. That does take, at the very least, the Navy probably takes some kind of security force, right? Whereas there is no charge in the Constitution or any federal documents that say that the federal government is responsible for making sure that people get doctors. Amen. So people in chat are correcting us. It was $90,000 for bushings. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Fair enough. And they asked the Air Force secretary about it. Wow. So we have Jacob Hawley says, just got fired from my job in Fredonia, Wisconsin, because our job is deciding to replace us with newcomers. I am pissed. It's happening at the local level, too. No more.
Starting point is 01:47:52 I'm done. It's got to stop. Where she tells what his job was. I want to know specifically what we're inviting our newcomers to come do in the country. Take jobs. That's what we're doing. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:04 I mean, this is one of the things that New York was pushing when, when New York was dealing with all of the migrants that had arrived there. Eric Adams and Kathy Hochul would be like, you know, we need money from the federal government. We need this, that, and the other.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Also, we need you to authorize everyone to work immediately. Do it now. I mean, the, the way that this is being handled by Democrats is again, to the detriment of the workers in their own states. How could Kathy Hochul be reelected after asking for this? Well, I would hope in a sane world she wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Have you ever been to New Zealand? No, I haven't. So New Zealand has a very rigorous immigration system. And I've been there. I've actually been deployed there as a member of the military. And if I wanted to become a New Zealander, which they're a great country. I love the place. Spent a lot of time in Auckland.
Starting point is 01:48:50 You have to have three things to become a citizen of New Zealand. First off, you have to have a skill that they find that they need that you would bring to the table. That is to say, you know, broadcaster. Yeah, yeah, we want broadcasters. Nurses, whatever. Nurse, whatever. Absolutely. The second thing you have to have then is some level of income already available to you. You have to have a certain amount of money
Starting point is 01:49:13 that you bring with you because they don't want you living off the public dole. So the first one, the second one, and the third one has to do with the fact that if you come, you have to have some level of, oh, dare I say, not be a criminal? Well, what a crazy thought. Well, we learned from the Sheets lawsuit that that's a racist requirement. I know. I know. Well, New Zealand just announced that they're going to reduce the number of visas they give for temporary workers, right?
Starting point is 01:49:41 And they were saying, you know, even if we issue, let's say, 179,000, I can't remember, I think it's about that, we're a very small country. That's a huge portion of our population. We can't absorb it economically. We don't have houses available to us. You're going to make it worse to the people who are already here. There actually is, there's many ways to get citizenship with New Zealand.
Starting point is 01:50:00 And you actually don't need a skill. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought you did. $3 million. You have enough money. Do you have to just purchase this? and you actually don't need a skill. Oh, I didn't know that. $3 million. Oh, $3 million. You have enough money. You can offset it. Okay, well, there you go. Do you have to just purchase this? Do you have to give it to them,
Starting point is 01:50:10 or do you just have to have it? Oh, it gets better. Most countries have this called investment citizenship. Yeah. So if you invest $5 million into the New Zealand economy, they will give you citizenship. There you go. I'm sorry, $5 million New Zealand dollars,
Starting point is 01:50:21 which is $2.9 million U.S. So this means, and I believe this is correct, because I know this is true for some countries. Some countries, it's as low as $500,000. You literally put that money in their bank and keep it in their banks. You keep that account operating. They give you a passport and say, welcome to our country. Thank you for your money. That's a good thing.
Starting point is 01:50:39 Simple enough. Yeah. I think like St. Kitts and Nevis is pretty cheap. I don't know what it is today, but I know that like a decade ago it was like 50 grand and a saint kitts passport is basically just says i'm a rich person who bought citizenship to avoid paying taxes so most countries will be like come on in there were several silicon valley tycoons who who bought new zealand citizenship during covid yeah i mean look if you're a billionaire why wouldn't you have 50 passports you just call up new zealand be like, yeah, I got $100 billion.
Starting point is 01:51:06 I'm going to put $50 million in New Zealand. Can I have a passport? They'll be like, sure. There you go. Then you can build your emergency bunker on the South Island. It's a great – oh, South Island is beautiful. You can go to the beach in the morning and be skiing later in the day in the Canterbury Mountains. It's beautiful. mountains wow it's beautiful
Starting point is 01:51:25 oh it's beautiful bear in mind i assume the uh the uh the government of new zealand is similar to the government of australia and the government of australia right now is looking to try and put elon musk in jail over twitter so there are crazy people over there they're definitely crazy people over there no the governments are fairly crazy i actually go on channel nine i'm actually a contributor to channel nine the the Today Show in Australia. So they're pretty conservative. So what time of year? What time of year in New Zealand?
Starting point is 01:51:52 I pull up the map and I can see Mount Cook. Yeah. What time of year do you have warm beach access and then cold enough elevation? In the summer. In the summer? During their summer. So it's our winter.
Starting point is 01:52:03 Yeah, it's our winter, their summer. In their summer, you can ski in their summer. Yeah summer because yeah they're not winter yeah it's our winter their summer in their summer you can you can you can ski in their summer yeah you have mountains in the tall mountains in the in the really yeah you know i i learned this only recently that las vegas 50 minute drive from las vegas from the strip there is a there's a mountain and you can be hanging out in your shorts and a t-shirt in vegas getting your car and drive to drive to the mountain and it's snow and really i didn't know that i mean what is it lee canyon i think or something like that it's not the hunter biden kind of snow is it just asking no actually there that is in vegas too that is vegas too right that's just lower elevation exactly higher elevation is the as the other snow i mean the
Starting point is 01:52:38 same thing with with like same thing if you go to um hawaii in the wintertime you if you're on the big island the the peak if you go up to monica and monola like the peaks will have have uh snow the first time that i went to the big island we tried to go to the peak and we could only go to the way station they're like yeah no one's going up top there's a snowstorm you all die so all right we'll grab some more super chats let's go steven sanders says tim how does anyone hold government accountable for suing a city or police for unrest? Lawyers are impossible to find in Florida. I was arrested for not wearing a mask on federal property in December of 2022.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Can't beg an attorney to sue them fast enough advice. I don't know. Well, I don't know. I've refused to wear a mask. I just got written up for and suspended from the base for doing that. So I don't know. We were in West Virginia and nobody wore masks. Yeah. So we didn't know. We were in West Virginia and nobody wore masks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:25 So we didn't really think anything of it. When we drove into D.C., though, it was crazy. In Frederick, Maryland, it was hilarious because the store I had was, Allison and I went to a sushi place. We walked in. The seat is 10 feet in front of us. And we were like, yeah, two? And they were like, you have to put a mask on.
Starting point is 01:53:43 I look around. I'm like, nobody's wearing any masks. And they're like, well, they're eating you have to put a mask on i look around i'm like nobody's wearing any masks and like well they're eating and i was like i'll just sit down and they were like but you put a mask on i'm like the chair is there can i sit down and they're like no and then all the employees were like wear the mask and i was like this is weird it was obsessive they wanted me to put a behavior put a mask on sit down take it off it would have been two seconds and then i would throw in the garbage i'm like well i don't understand that makes no sense it was creepy it was like a cult no it's like being on an airplane you really think that wearing a mask is going to stop whatever contaminants you have in your nose going all over the airplane oh the
Starting point is 01:54:14 funny thing was we had uh these space helmets this guy created a company where oh that's right yeah so he made these glass dome helmets with like a hepa filter in it and it was was like, then when you're on a plane, you're breathing fresh air. The funny thing is the planes didn't allow it. The regulation wasn't a law. The order was you had to wear a cloth face mask, no gaiters. So apparently people had showed up to the airplanes with these $200 plastic dome helmets. And they were like, so you have to wear a mask. And they're like, but I am.
Starting point is 01:54:43 And they're like, no, put a mask on. It's like, but I'm wearing a space helmet. Like we don't care. Yeah. I'm wearing my own personal air filter. And they're like, that's not as good as this mask that we pulled out of your pocket.
Starting point is 01:54:54 All right, let's go. Beavis McLean says, Tim, you gave me the inspiration for this addition to the culture war. Listen to the camo comedy podcast, two M's in camo available now on all platforms hilarious stories from military service such as two gi's unwittingly picking a bar fight with an olympic judo champion
Starting point is 01:55:13 team that sounds like a good one this the the the premise itself was funny enough sounds good what is that camo comedy c-a-A-M-M-O Comedy Podcast. Check that one out. Here we go. Eric S. says, I think President Trump is playing it safe by complying with the legal system, which can attract voters who value his adherence to the law. OK, let's just pause real quick. This is not in the legal system. This is called extra legal and it's not law. If there was a statute on the books that said Trump, if you do this thing, you've committed a crime, that would be Trump adhering to the law. No, it's not actually illegal anywhere to ask someone not to publish a story about you or defame you. In fact, it's typically it's very common among every political campaign ever to try and control information it's called public relations and marketing yep they're arguing what trump did was illegal because he was influencing the election by doing marketing for his campaign and by the way like after after years of looking into every aspect of this person's life with one of the most sophisticated intelligence
Starting point is 01:56:24 apparatuses that has ever existed in all of human history. This is the kind of stuff they're trying to pick at him for. Yeah. Getting it says you guys are beautiful. Just like Lizzo. That is so sweet. There's a, there's a funny bit from Casey Shornima and she's like,
Starting point is 01:56:38 guys don't know when to end a sentence. They'll say things like you are the most beautiful woman in the world to me. That's a good one. I think she married him in the end but her boyfriend said you know i just love your eyes i love your beady little eyes but he like didn't really think about what it meant your beady little eyes that's yeah that's great that that was uh phil tweeted that yeah saying you are beautiful just like lizzo would be interpreted as an insult yeah and I was like it's how you turn a compliment into a one of the most offensive insults is you're so beautiful
Starting point is 01:57:10 just like Lizzo and that's the let's see how body positive they are all hell will break loose what was the bit people were doing for a while where they would just comment on liberal women's pictures and go you are such a beautiful trans woman and it's like if the woman gets mad, that's transphobic.
Starting point is 01:57:27 Exactly. You got it both ways, so to speak. Doreen Gaming says, Tim, you're wrong about the hacking terms. It's not white, black, and gray. It's blue, red, and purple. Those terms are racist now. I kid, but that was actual training I had to take as a DOD contractor. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:57:41 Yeah, I don't know. Wow, what good use of tax dollars. I don't know if they did, but they tried getting rid of master and Oh my gosh. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. What good use of tax dollars. I don't know if they did, but they tried getting rid of master and slave from coding. Yeah. So those were just terms. Real estate agents got rid of a master bedroom. They say owner's room or like owners.
Starting point is 01:57:56 Oh, that's better. Owner's room. It's like slavery. It's rough. It's like, uh, yeah,
Starting point is 01:58:01 the master's room. I think we should build it. Like we should just designate rooms in the new studio. Just like as offensively as possible. That'd be a good idea. It's like, yeah, the master's room. I think we should build it. Like, we should just designate rooms in the new studio just, like, as offensively as possible. That'd be a good idea. Like, we'll call the green room the maid's quarters or, you know, we'll call the downstairs the master's control room. Just, like, yeah, needlessly gender every single word. Yeah. Or every single position.
Starting point is 01:58:21 No women allowed studio room. Podcast man instead of podcaster. I think you should. He-man, woman, haters club. Yeah, I love that. I find this to be one of my favorite things when you're writing. There is a technical use of the term representative
Starting point is 01:58:36 to talk about someone from Congress, but I find myself intentionally being like Congress man, Congress woman. They also will try and make it like performer instead of actor or actress like all the gendered language all the time save it my favorite pc term is i'm bugs person what oh yeah oh no oh my i was reading an article and they said i'm this person and i was like oh that is awesome there was one i heard years ago. Christina Hoff Summers talked about this, but she said that literally we're refusing to say seminar and we're saying aviolar. Oh, God. What?
Starting point is 01:59:10 They're saying aviolar. I get it. No, but that's real. They're a funny group. I love, there was like the post about some feminist was like his story. This is his story. And then they went off on this tirade and then some a linguist
Starting point is 01:59:26 actually corrected them and was like you're way off this is completely wrong dude amen and a women remember that oh yeah right before covet started there was uh people saying that uh feminists would say that woe means belong to so woe men was literally saying that women belong to men and then someone had to break down that actually they come from two different language roots. I love how all the attempts at
Starting point is 01:59:53 making the gender equalization or whatever that the feminism... I love how they're all really stupid. Yeah. They're dumb. Yeah. They're dumb. They're really, really dumb. Alright everybody, we're gonna go to the members-only show, so head over to TimCast.com and click join us to become a member
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