Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1011 Anti Israel Protests ERUPT All Over US, Occupy 2.0, TX ARRESTS Protesters w/Ari Jacob

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Seamus, & Serge join Ari Jacob to discuss Texas police arresting anti-Israel protestors at UT Austin, GOP Speaker threatening to withhold funding from Columbia university over the pro-Palestine encampment, Harvard students erecting a pro-Palestine encampment, and NYU protestors admitting they don't know why they're protesting. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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But I think what's happening is as more police begin to arrest more protesters and generate more media attention as Fox News and other cable outlets plaster this story all across television, more people learn about it. And just like Occupy Wall Street, the movement gets bigger. And so I actually have a question for the audience right as we start for those that want to chat and give me a two cents. Have we seen anything this big since Occupy Wall Street? We've got encampments popping up at now Harvard, I'm hearing. We've got UT Austin mass arrests. The governor is saying they will not tolerate anti-Semitism, which kind of sounds like he's arresting people for hate speech.

And then you've got, of course, Serge is telling us he's hearing something going on in Utah. We've got Yale. We've got Columbia. We've got marches in the streets of New York for this. So it certainly seems like this could be the biggest nationwide movement since Occupy. Now, I know the Summer of Love riots were massive, but that was a flash in the pan of riots and protests. These are actual encampments. So that's specifically what I'm saying. So we'll talk about that story. That one's pretty big. Then, of course, ladies and gentlemen, TikTok, the bill that may ban it, has been signed by Joe Biden. It is it's here. So whether or not TikTok now divests, we will see. The CEO says they're going to fight this. But this could mean TikTok becomes a U.S. owned company or is shut down entirely. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we got some Joe Biden gaffes.

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Adna, but everybody can call me Ari. I am a influencer, marketing, and creator development specialist. I am an ex-talent agent and I started one of the first TikTok talent agencies. Over the course of my 20-year career, I worked with dozens of brands, celebrities, social media, and reality stars. And I survived a Taylor Lorenz media hit job. And now I am a full-time creator. You can find me on my YouTube channel. I have, I talk about peeling back the curtain of the entertainment and media space. And if you want to help me beat Taylor Lorenz on YouTube,

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Texas police arrest UT Austin students attempting to set up anti-Israel Gaza camp. Governor Greg Abbott threatens more arrests. So a ton of anti-Israel, as Greg Price calls it, pro-Hamas idiots at UT Austin tried to set up an encampment. The police moved in and engaged in mass arrests. I think we have this tweet here from Greg Abbott. He said, arrests being made right now and will continue until the crowd disperses. These protesters belong in jail. Antisemitism will not be tolerated in Texas, period. Students joining in hate-filled antisemitic protests at any public college or university in Texas should be expelled. And oh boy, this is

where things get interesting. We have a bunch of stories, right? You've got NYPD mass arrests at another anti-Israel protest. You've got Columbia negotiating, allowing them to stay. You've got Harvard protests popping up. It's even Mike Johnson shows up to Columbia and is threatening these students. This is wild. TikTok is on the verge of being banned and it all is centered around Israel. Here's what's interesting about the first story. So we'll get to all of that news, but there's a bunch of small stories in the bigger story. The first one I think is the most important is Greg Abbott basically saying he's arresting people for hate speech.

He's saying these protesters belong in jail. Anti-Semitism will not be tolerated. Greg Abbott of Texas is saying for their hateful speech, they will, they're being arrested or they should be in jail. Yeah. Hate speech is one of these things that I can understand why people want to say things like that, but it's such a danger of free speech that I think you have to tread really carefully. And this is also something I'm seeing repeated basically with every older politician. This is very much sort of an older stance to say this is this is the emergence of anti-Semitism on college campuses, whereas younger, you know, protesters, activists are saying, no, you guys have gone too far. You're supporting genocide. So you're really

seeing an ideological crash here. You know, it's also really disturbing and frightening. For so many years on college campuses, it's been totally in vogue to say literally anything that you want about white people. And even though in the past, I've said on this show that I reject this paradigm of whiteness, I think it's something that's been imposed upon us and that certain ethnicities such as the Irish, Italian, Polish, other Catholic ethnicities weren't considered white. The reality is people who look like me are considered white, whether that's a label I appreciate or not. And these college students have been perfectly comfortable and entitled to say literally anything they want about us. But now that they're talking about one specific minority, it's, oh my gosh, we have to

arrest them and throw them in prison. Yeah, It's funny. And I'm not saying that the rhetoric, yeah, and I'm not saying that hateful rhetoric towards any group is a good thing. But what I am saying is it's really interesting that they were literally able to criticize the majority of this country for years and years and years, and none of them got in any trouble. And then people sit there and go, oh my gosh, they're criticizing other ethnic groups. How could this possibly have happened? Well, I can tell you how it happened. You told them that that was okay for the past several decades and they got away with it for the past several decades. They don't see the distinction that older generations did.

Yeah. What I don't like about this is the conflation of Israel criticism with anti-Semitism. Yeah, that as well. And I think it's also important to point out many of these people are anti-Semitic. And there was a video out of Yale where a Jewish guy is trying to walk through campus and they stop him and they block him for literally no reason. And the reason I've heard people say is like, oh, but they're acting shady and weird and they're filming. And I'm like, dude, you can't just go up to somebody for that reason, right? Yeah. Also, Yale's going to be confused when they find out their founder is Jewish, right? Eli Yale? Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck.

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working with young people is that uh we've gotten into this habit of a feigning victimhood. And so what is the difference between really being threatened and having your feelings hurt? And what people are seeing is that if they are, if they, if they do the feigning victimhood very well, then, and it works, then they just keep doing it over and over again. So I don't know, you know, it does get into that freedom of speech thing. It's like, are people really being, are they scared for their safety or, or do they just not like what other people are saying? Like there was a story of the, of the kid that, um, I think he said that somebody was an illegal alien in his English class and the Mexican kid, I'm from Mexico. I moved here when I was two and that illegal alien joke was a joke back then. I'm just fine.

I survived it. Well, this kid didn't make a joke. The kid in school said, was asked to write about aliens, and he said, you're talking about illegal aliens or space aliens? And they were like, how dare you? Dude, I'm totally wrong about Yale, by the way.

I just fact-checked myself. Oh, okay. But anyway, yeah, so I don't know. What do you think about it? So what's going on in Texas, look, if Greg Abbott wants to arrest people because they're trying to occupy a public space, keeping other people out and basically seizing territory to create a chaz shop kind of situation, then he needs to say that. Because what he tweeted out right now is you're not allowed to protest and be hateful at the same time.

Yeah. Words matter. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. That's not okay, Greg. If people want to march down the street and say what they want to say, even if I disagree with it, that's what free speech is. Yeah. I agree with removing these people. However, I don't think they should be at Columbia and it's because they're setting up an occupation. Peaceful protests are great,

but if they're taking over the common space from other people and these videos come out where they're like, we're going to link hands and then push them out. Okay, you're shut down. Now you're now you're occupying territory and taking it away from the people who were there first. And that's wrong. And that shouldn't happen. I think it was from Harvard of people rushing onto the green to start setting up an encampment. I mean, it is a intentional, growing position, right? This is something that, you know, I think you're probably the best one to talk about this with Occupy Wall Street,

but it is something they want to set up a effectively satellite network at college campuses across the US, starting predominantly in the Northeast where a lot of the colleges already lean towards a like leftist progressive worldview. Well, what is dangerous too is, and I saw this when the whole BLM thing was happening, I was managing all these different TikTok houses and I was totally unaware of

politics. And the kids were like, this is cool to go and protest BLM stuff. And they're like, we want to put a banner outside. I'm like, just do whatever you want. I mean, if that's the popular thing and what happens is if that becomes the popular thing to be anti-Semitic just because people are getting clout or something by being that way, you were saying that you were called a Zionist. I mean, I heard a podcast where there was like a Jewish influencer saying

that being a Zionist isn't even like bad or, you know, so I don't even know what it is. I just know it's unpopular and I don't want to be called that. So Zionist is basically like, if you're anti-Israel, it's white supremacy, it's racist. It's a catch-all term for people

who are not aligned with my worldview. That's what it's turned into, right? At least now. And it functions the same way. Let's say you're like an unrepentant white supremacist marching on a clan ropes. They go, ha ha, you're a white supremacist. And the guy goes, okay.

Let's say you're like a moderate liberal or classical liberal or right right leading individual and you you don't like racism and so you say things like i believe in meritocracy they go you're a racist white supremacist the zionist thing is there's literal zionism where someone believes in the creation of a jewish state in israel and they want to have the holy land and all of that stuff and then there's and there's and there's varying degrees of and that doesn't have a negative connotation correct it certainly does i mean the idea of wanting to create a country some people view very negatively colonization then there's like me and

other more libertarian people who are like i don't think the u.s should be funding foreign military expenditures and whatever israel is doing and they go so you think israel exists and i'm like there's quite literally a country called israel z Zionist! Because in the mind of many of these people, Israel being a fabrication created by with, you know, with the whatever, however they want to describe the creation of Israel, anyone who acknowledges that it does exist is also a Zionist. And I'm like, I'm not saying it should or shouldn't. I don't know. It's a country with a government and they have a military and there's a war going on. And they'm like, I'm not saying it should or shouldn't. I don't know. It's a country with a government and they have a military and there's a war going on. And they're like the so many of these people don't think there is an Israel.

They say it's Palestine. It's occupied Palestine. If you call it Israel, you are a Zionist. So it's like, I mean, I don't even know, dude. All I'm saying is we're America and we should just stay out of it. Yeah, I think young people, they don't know. Right. I don't barely know.

I mean, I watch you guys and I try to get the information. But it's like unless you're deep in this. All you see on TikTok. I saw it, you know, right? I don't barely know. I mean, I watch you guys and I try to get the information, but it's like, unless you're deep in this, all you see on TikTok, I saw it, you know, back, I think it was 2020 that every, if you, if you like Trump or if you say you like Trump, then you're terrible person. You can't even say it out loud. And so everybody just wants to fit in. I mean, young people, you want to fit into the group. So if something sounds bad and then you're just going to go with the flow and i think that could be dangerous as well i would say all of these students they have no idea what they're protesting right but there's an interesting question around

this too because with you know greg abbott basically tweeting that hate speech will get you arrested which is hilarious there's a question of if these people are saying they are Hamas. Are they saying they're a terrorist organization? Yeah, and they are. Yeah. But there is a difference, as you mentioned, between that and quote unquote hate speech. No, but what I'm saying is you have that video where the woman yells, we are Hamas. Should she be arrested and charged? Say, okay, you've sworn allegiance to a terror organization. And now any crime you commit is in alignment. I mean, how do we handle that? Do we just say, okay, you've sworn allegiance to a terror organization, and now any crime you commit is in alignment. I mean, how do we handle that? Do we just say, no, no, if someone is clearly an American college student, they can't possibly

be Hamas. But why would that be true, though? No, that's what I'm saying. Like, no, that's an absurdity. Certainly, radicalized young people could join a terror organization. Then is the question, well, all they really did was commit a misdemeanor. Therefore, they won't be charged with terror. No, like that's not how the law is supposed to work. I think we get into really dangerous territory if we start arresting Columbia College students who are yelling they are Hamas, not understanding. And then what we're

going to do is send them to Guantanamo Bay. We can't do that. But then think about the precedent, the precedent being that people could literally swear allegiance to a terror organization, go around committing mass crimes, and then those who are only involved slightly or aren't actively involved in killing but are blockading things, we let them go? No, you're part of a terror organization. We charge you for it. If you were Greg Abbott, what do you think the message to put out and say would be? Oh, he should have tweeted, occupying public space without a permit takes that space away

from other people who have paid for this. It is the seizure of the commons by an ideological group, and we won't tolerate it. Done. Yeah. There you go. No, I think that makes sense. All the loftiness about hate, et cetera, et cetera. Anti-Semitism will not be tolerated in Texas.

I mean, like, again, what about like anti-whiteness, anti-blackness? Are all forms of hatred or not liking a group of people not constitutionally protected? It seems like it's an overstep. It makes me feel like they are looking at what the other governors and college presidents are saying and being like, what's the acceptable line your office is putting out? Okay, you're saying anti-Semitism. We'll say it too then. Like there's a lack of sort of critical analysis of what the core issue is here. Like you're saying, like occupying a public space for an ideological group, especially in a way that potentially, you know, advocates for violence.

You can see some conflict. Like there are things they could be concerned about. But again, it seems like everyone is focusing on focusing on the ideological or the more common sense based versus political and ideological based i mean i just think it's funny that greg abbott thought criticizing anti-semitism was like the way to go because it's it's the it's it's an it's it's hate speech it's like the right has been demanding free speech, but this was his signal to, I guess, like moderate liberals or whatever. Well, I think there's a fear of being considering too soft on people who are perceived as anti-Semitic

and therefore becoming anti-Semitic yourself, right? Like they are trying to fall correctly on the side of this issue when your, your point is completely valid. Like they can can just say this isn't acceptable for this institution, for whatever else. They don't have to make it as political as they're making it. In fact, I think they're almost making it worse by saying it adds more fuel to the fire. I agree. It's going to get way more. And I just want to mention this. I think you're right that the right is kind of fumbling and I won't even say the right

conservatives and conservative politicians are fumbling by talking about hate speech, by talking about anti-Semitism, etc. I mean, there is an obvious strategic win here for conservatives that actually involves talking about our own country instead of other countries. When someone comes in here and says that they are Hamas, you go, OK, there in foreign countries where horrific acts of violence are occurring, maybe, maybe that can be for us motivation to figuring out who's in our country, who's crossing our borders, what's going on here. No, we can't know that. Yeah, exactly. We have to take all the mystery out of the Biden administration.

Exactly. We have to be, like, extremely intensely focused on what's happening in the Middle East. We shouldn't be focusing on what's happening at the border. I mean, you know, I think the rights process is really important. Like I said the other night, I think that it would be really cool if the American youth rallied for more a border wall or rallied for something that would impact domestically, that would help people that they are going to live beside. But instead, this foreign war is basically dominating our news cycle.

I think it's important that we analyze what's going on. On the other hand, it is interesting to me that the youth at the most elite institutions in America decided this was the issue that they were willing to do anything for. I mean, I was watching interviews with protesters at Columbia today, and their graduation is coming up. The schools announced they're going to go fully remote for the rest of the semester or offer online classes. But how long is that?

It's like a week, isn't it? It's really, it's not that long. It's maybe like two or three weeks. But they were saying like, if the university says you can't get your diploma if you're participating in this, would you go without your diploma? And she was like, well, this cause is, I'd have to think about it,

but this cause is so much bigger than my diploma. It's a small sacrifice to me. And you want to be like and this girl is wearing sunglasses she's covered like you can't identify i mean i couldn't identify her maybe someone on campus could but there is this um there's a narrative that the people involved in this are having that this is like their big contribution to the world to shifting the world into a correct direction which means that there is a level of ideological devoutness that they might be willing to adhere to, which it makes it concerning

that it's spreading throughout the US and seems to be getting more chaotic at each school. It's going to get way bigger. Yeah. During Occupy Wall Street, I'll tell you what happened. In the first week,

a couple thousand people, the first week at a couple thousand people should have protested. They left right away. That was the first weekend. The first week, there was literally five people in the park. I was there and we were standing under this big blue tarp in the rain. There was nothing in Zuccotti. A cop walked over in a trench coat, smiled and said something like, good luck. And then left. And we were like, this is funny. And then I asked him, I was like, so is this, is anything happening?

Like, what are we doing? I thought it was fun. I was like, you know, being in New York for the first time. And they were like, no, it's because everyone's going to be back this is funny. And then I asked him, I was like, so is this, is anything happening? Like, what are we doing? I thought it was fun. I was like, you know, being in New York for the first time. And they were like, no, it's because everyone's going to be back on the weekend. And I was like, oh, okay, cool. That next weekend, a bunch of people did show up and there were big protests and big marches. There was no real tents or encampment. It wasn't allowed. And then during a march, Tony Bologna, they called him, Anthony Bologna, walked up to

four girls who were not in the march and were standing on the sidewalk yelling and sprayed them in the face for no reason. Oh, wow. And then there's a video of them screaming in agony. They were just standing on the sidewalk. And that video at the time was the most viral video in Internet history. It got 1.3 million views in a couple of hours. So this is like. i'm sorry what college was that again this was new york city this is not a college in new york right exactly by wall street

right so this is on this is on um broadway where this took place just outside of zuccotti park and uh after this this incident this video goes massively viral you get uh i think snl or someone or daily show they did a bit called uh christopher maloney from svu as tony but christopher maloney is tony baloney and he's uh it was a bit about a cop who was trigger happy with pepper spraying would go around pepper spraying everybody it was good but that video goes viral and then all of a sudden occupy which was a new york protest turned into a nationwide thing. So with these actions, and especially with Greg Abbott saying it's anti-Semitism, he's basically dumping gasoline on a fire. These people have no idea how to deal with mass unrest.

I got to be honest, if they did literally nothing, it would have gone away. But what happens is New York allows it. And then people start posting videos. It builds detention. Then other places start doing it. When the when the cops come in, that's what they're hoping for, so that they can create the propaganda to be like, look, look, help. We're being attacked. Oh, the cops are after us. Greg Abbott just did them the biggest favor imaginable by saying anti-Semitism will not be tolerated because now what's going to happen is conservatives are going to say, oh, come on, you can't conflate criticizing a country with being anti-Semitic. And then you're going to

get the left being like, look at this. You see how they're lying. Then you're going to get, you know, the right anti-Israel side, and they're all going to be unified against this. And they're going to point the finger at Greg Abbott. He is giving them the propaganda they need to rally more people. Yeah, I think you're right. And this is very difficult for either side to handle strategically, because this is not an issue that really breaks down along party lines the way that issues we tend to see mass protests about, too.

So, for example, back in 2020, when you had the BLM riots happening, the reality is basically all of the Democratic Party, anti-establishment and pro-establishment was totally in favor of that movement. When it comes to the Israel-Palestine conflict, that breaks down not so much along party lines, but along establishment versus anti-establishment lines. And so Joe Biden can't really say a whole lot about this without alienating a large fraction of his voter base. And so if this if this does end up becoming violent, there's there's a question and there's a question of whether law and order is going to be enforced or whether they're not allowed to be violent. Because we know if the Democratic Party sided with them or the Democratic Party in its totality sided with them. They would literally be able to do whatever they wanted. But we don't know that that's the case here.

And so we'll see how it develops. Let me jump to the story from The Post Millennial. Mike Johnson threatens to withhold federal funds from Columbia U over Gaza camp while protesters scream free Palestine. If these campuses cannot get control of this problem, they do not deserve taxpayer dollars. Are you kidding me? It took Israel to get them to finally threaten to pull funding from corrupt universities that are in violation of the Civil Rights Act. It's so many ways from racist policies and the dei stuff to uh gender sports and issues but now that they protest israel mike johnson personally shows up and says we're gonna

pull your funding okay good please pull their funding i hope the protesters keep going now at this point if it's the only way we're gonna get universities to have their funding pulled it's no it's completely insane how often is america mean, I won't even ask how often. I will just state as a fact, it is required to trash the United States of America in order to have any kind of social life on a college campus anywhere in this country, in order to maintain your position as a faculty

member. You have to, by default, to function in one of these institutions, hate the United States of America and say that you hate the United States of America. And now that there are people saying that they hate Israel. We're going to talk about pulling funding. These people have said they hate America for decades. What was done about it?

The deep state must be reeling right now. They fund all this woke garbage. They put all this money into these alliances. I warned this years ago. I said, the Democrats trying to court the woke is it's the one ring. And they think they are. I'm going to get the name wrong and piss off all the Boromir. Right. Was that the guy who was like, it is a gift for us to use against our enemies. And they're like, no, it can't be wielded. You can't do it. No one can. And like, this is what they thought. They thought we'll align ourselves with the woke

left. And then they love TikTok. When Donald Trump was saying, we got to do something about this. They were like, no, no, we like TikTok because it was pushing their values. And now that TikTok is pushing anti-Israel and the young people are now staunchly anti-Israel and rising up in massive protest. Now they're trying to pull funding from universities. They are reaping what they have sown. They funded this. We warned them. They allowed it to persist when we called for it to stop. And now, and now they're mad. I'm not going to cry about it. I've got no sympathy for them. I believe in America first. I think we should secure our borders. I think we need to bring back jobs into this country. I think we

need better trade agreements. I think Donald Trump had it right. He brought auto manufacturing back. They wanted to get rid of them. They wanted all this garbage. They wanted the war. And now their foreign policy is being risked. I don't care about their foreign policy. Israel is a country that can defend itself. I agree with that, but I don't see why we're paying for it. So if these people want to have a peaceful protest, I can criticize them when they're nasty and they're mean to Jewish people when they are. And that's fine. But Mike Johnson to come out now, we're going to pull your funding. I'm like, oh're going to pull your funding. I'm like, oh, this is great.

The deep state and the woke are fighting each other. I'm going to sit back and eat popcorn. Yeah, why are we not ending federal backing of student loans, right? Like there are a lot of ways he could defund colleges, but instead he's only willing to act when it has to do with Israel. It's not my favorite look, you know?

I have a question because I went to San Diego State. I feel like this is happening in all the Ivy League schools. Do you guys think that there's some type of like positioning? Like if you go to an Ivy League school, you have to have like a position on this in order to be looked at as somebody, you know, because San Diego, like we had surfing classes. I don't see this necessarily starting it. So we're like San Diego State because it's just so relaxed. I don't know. We can't even get behind college football, you know. I think Ivy League universities and a lot of small liberal arts institutions in the Northeast specifically prioritize recruiting students who had a leftist or progressive worldview. And they also recruited and encouraged faculty that had a progressive leftist worldview.

You know, anecdotally, I went to SMU in Dallas, in Texas, and I did have some conservative professors. There weren't a lot. Typically, professors are overwhelmingly left-leaning in America. And that is even- Overwhelmingly. Overwhelmingly. And that's even more true in the Northeast,

which tends to already be a left-leaning region. And so I think it's twofold. I think it's that the schools thought it is like, it's a feather in their cap to have these students that are doing these things. And you march for abortion, pro-abortion, whatever, in high school. And oh, my gosh, you're, you know, for an open border. Great. This makes us look like we are this loving, welcoming institution. We are leaning towards the left ideology that not only do our faculty have, but now we're encouraging it in our administrators.

And so it just became this echo chamber that did not expect. Right. And it's like if a pebble hits your windshield and it shatters, right? They didn't realize that there was any way for this to fall back on them in a way that was negative because they don't recognize that there are divisions within their own ideological culture. And I think what you were saying about the BLM thing in 2020 being popular, like I remember Logan Paul jumped on it and all these influencers jumped on it because it was like, well, what's so bad about, we just don't support racism and that's okay. You know, there was a girl that I spoke to, her name is Lani Saram. She, I think it was 2017 or 2018 when the whole BLM thing was pretty big. She wrote a book and it was on the New York Times bestseller list but it it knocked down the

number one book which is like a crt book a blm uh book and they uh took her off the new york times said she did shady practices she's the only person to ever be taken off the new york times bestseller list and it destroyed her life i mean she told me she can't get a loan because people say she's a scam artist and i mean we already know i think ab know, I think Abbey Shrier that wrote the book about the trans stuff that they won't put on the New York Times bestseller list. Anyway, my point is that, you know, that that was everybody went after her because it was like, well, you must be racist because you've knocked off the CRT BLM book. But she didn't do any of that, you know, so right, but it was so much easier for people to jump on that trend. And the New York times bestseller list is biased.

Anyways, I could be wrong, but it's not like generated by all sorts of games. It's not like they like calculate the sales and say, Oh, you've jumped. She explained it to me. Oh,

no, I just wanted to say that the, the way the New York times leaves its bestsellers leaves me speechless by Michael Knowles because his book was a bestseller and then they didn't put it on the list of course I'm not sure if they ever ended up doing that or if there was ever remedied but yeah they they play all sorts of games well and they if you you're not supposed to buy your own books basically and so if they think that you did like let's say they thought you're having a conference and you bought you know a bunch of

books to give away all they do is they place a little dagger next to your name and it basically most people don't even know what that means right but they actually took lanny off the list and she had like 800 articles written about her how she's this terrible person and she actually did it the right way she went to like comic cons and stuff and uh they pre-sold all the books so she didn't do it the shady way uh anyway it's an editorial list but this is how people positioned, right? It was like, well, I don't want to be racist, so I'm going to support BLM. And that was OK. But this issue is a little bit different because, like you said, it's you're going to piss somebody off.

Right. It stops being, I mean, there are conservatives who are split on this issue. There's diversity in thought on the right as well. But I don't think anyone, especially in progressive academia, expected there to be a difference because they are out of sync with, it's an age thing, in my opinion. I think a lot of older Democrats or people who identify as Democrat, they don't realize what's going on in these schools and they don't understand how the youth has shifted on this issue. And young people are removed from maybe concerns about anti-Semitism that plagues people of older generations. And so they experience this conflict very differently.

The information they have about it is very different. It's much more focused on Palestine. And so it's just really interesting to me that, you know, you were asking, like, why is this happening in the Ivy League? And I think it's because the Ivy League believes they set the tone for everything that happens in America. And it's just an example of this old institutional elitism. That's actually a huge part of the Democratic Party. Right. And this is a big part of the Democratic Party. They're the ones who are like, oh, you have to go to college. In fact, you're going to go to college. You should go to the best college ever, the Ivy Leagues. And while you're there, become indoctrinated. Absolutely. And I think you're

absolutely right. In many ways, this is a question of age. I wouldn't even say it's so much the case that younger people don't like Israel. That might be the case. But I think younger people at the very least recognize that you can criticize a country's foreign policy without hating that country, because that's basically what everyone has been doing in their lives with respect to American foreign policy for the past 20 years or so. And so, you know, in the same way that I can love America and say, I don't love what we're doing overseas. Anyone is equally entitled to say, okay, I don't necessarily dislike Israel, but I don't love their, their foreign policy or what they're doing. Um, and so, yeah, I, I think you're totally correct. This is, this is very much a, an issue of,

of age. It's an issue of outlook. And also on top of that, I, I'll add this, people recognize there's like a third layer of not only can you criticize a country's foreign policy without disliking that country, but even if you do dislike that country, that does not mean that you dislike the dominant ethnic group within that country and harbor some kind of racial hatred towards them. Right. What about like the distrust in the media, too? It's like you don't know where to get the information anymore. And so, you know what I mean?

It's so hard. It's like, can anybody just really explain to me what's going on? And the mediums where we're getting information are totally different. I mean, you are probably the perfect person to talk about this, but the experience of someone who consumes all of their news through Instagram, Facebook, TikTok is very different than someone who experiences all their news on MSNBC or a traditional cable channel. The ability to discern if an influencer is doing something for clout or like I see Montana Tucker, right? I know her very well. I think her grandfather was in the Holocaust.

And so she's speaking about her religion. I understand why she's doing that. Then there's other people that talk about politics and about these stories, and they're doing it just straight for ego. This is trending, so I'm going to talk about it. But the problem is people don't have enough information of who are the good and bad actors out there. It's just starting to get really difficult to figure out. Do you think more influencers are moving into the news sphere to try and like capitalize on a election cycle or something like that? Well, I'll tell you what, there's been a couple articles I read that conservative influencers are becoming more popular with brands, like brands are actually willing to work with conservative influencers. And I think that has to do with the fact that, you know, it's not totally, you know, career, you know, suicide, basically, to talk about Trump anymore, or talk about being a conservative, there's like the full send podcast, people like that. So it's a little bit cooler, I guess. And ultimately, brands want to advertise with people that have a following that has adults, right? Like back when in 2017, the Bachelor people,

they were the best because if they made an Instagram ad, they're like QVC on steroids. It's like females over the age of 25 in the US and Canada, you want, I mean, Jake Paul and Logan Paul back when they were big, you have a bunch of 13 year olds that don't have credit cards. So you want to have, uh, adult affluent people that are following you. And because it's not so taboo to be conservative, I think we're getting there,

uh, that obviously brands want to advertise with those people. And so because of that, people are like, well, let's, you know, jump on the conservative train. I want to jump to the next story in the saga. We have this from the Post Malone. Harvard students erect anti-Israel liberated Gaza camp on campus.

The story here is actually the video, which I think is really interesting. Take a look at this. Let's see if we can make it a little bigger. Running full speed. Quickly, quickly as fast they can trying to set up tents the craziest camp out yep where is this oh my gosh the more media coverage there is of this the more it will spread to other parts of the country. But I also want to show you this.

And this gets into this image, I think, gets into the heart of what we're seeing here and why they're doing what they're doing. Ali London says Palestinian activist appears to realize she has made a big mistake as she verges close to tears as Texas police handcuff her. Take a look at this young college student. I don't know how old she is. Maybe college student. Super young. Super young. And she looks very distressed as she's being arrested.

She has no idea what she's protesting. She's only heard surface level things. She is now being arrested. And the response from conservatives and the police is exactly what the cult was hoping for. And I will explain very simply. She is now angry and scared, not understanding why she's being arrested or what she did wrong. She was told that she was fighting for the good guys. The police came and arrested her. Well, how can that be? She's a good guy. Well, it's because the police must be bad guys, right? With that fear and anger, when she

gets out of jail, and she will overnight, and it'll be a slap on the wrist, they will then go to her. And not only will they say, see, look what the police do. The police are bad. You didn't even do anything wrong. You're fighting for justice. Aren't the police evil? They'll direct her fear and anger, which they instigated into her siding with them once more. And then they will start to show her all of the posts from people on the right insulting her and laughing at her for being scared and crying, acting as though she had any idea what was going on.

And they'll say, see, look how evil the right is. They're making fun of you while you were doing the right thing. That is how the cult recruits. So when they're storming campus, when you look at the comparison between the Summer of Love, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street, and the anti-Israel stuff, and you're like, wow, it sure is very similar. It's all just cult building. There's no moral issue they care about. There's a funny meme I saw where it's, you know, the meme of the military guy putting his arms out, protecting the kid. It's the military guy going like this. And it's like protesters. And then

the kid in the bed says the Middle East and the bombs and the knives are still falling on the kid because the guy's nowhere near the kid. And that's a good point. And then you wonder, what are they doing? What is their goal? Their goal is to recruit people into their cult who view this country as morally corrupt and evil and wrong, that woman will now become an anti-police activist more so than she really was or ever was. We've acknowledged on this show that most of these people have no idea what they're protesting. We then see a woman like this getting arrested who's scared and has no idea what's going on. The response should be not to make fun of her, but to be like, these people are tricking you to get you arrested, to make you angry, to entrench you in a world that will cause you harm. We don't want that for you. I don't think we on this show are influential nearly enough to actually have that message for someone like her. But maybe those who listen might realize this because I got to tell you, you know, even

Ali London saying she appears to realize she made a big mistake as she verges close to tears. Even that, like, imagine you are walking down the street and some guy says, hey, do you want to march for freedom? And you go, yeah. And you start marching down the street. Next thing you know, you're getting arrested and you're freaking out. And all of these people are now laughing at you and pointing their fingers at you. You'd be mad at them. You'd be stressed. You'd be scared. You'd

be like, why are they attacking me? Why are they insulting me? That's how they make the cult bigger. Yeah. Well, I remember with Kyle Rittenhouse, like, you know, that happened about like, I don't know, a year or two after I got like canceled in The New York Times. So I already I wasn't political. And then I just started watching that, though. And it's like that's kind of what got me to change my beliefs and be like, this is kind of more important to be, I guess, leaning on the right. Because I saw how they twisted that story. And a lot of people probably went the other way, right? When they first saw all the news about the Kyle Rittenhouse stuff and how he killed these people that were peacefully protesting.

Or I don't know what the whole narrative was, but I think a lot of people probably got on the other side similarly. There were influencers that I knew of because of non-political lifestyle or whatever content who when the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict came out, they were like, nobody talked to me about this. He killed innocent black people.

I watched every day of the trial because that is real news, right? That's a real trial that's happening. Nobody can twist the narrative and you could watch the lawyers discussing it. There were people who had an emotional reaction to the story and then closed their ears to any of the details, right? They already knew how they were going to feel about it because of a false narrative uh it's hard to comment on this picture because you know i don't know the video or what what else is going on there but i do think that there are people who will say like this just makes me want to double

down more like i will just become even more disenfranchised and it will drive a certain level of like well i, I got arrested at this protest, so now I should do something even bigger because, you know, this confirms my suspicion that the cops are bad and whatever else. This is a known tactic for anybody who's been to the, what do they call them? Excuse me, direct action meetings. They have described in the past as like three different tiers. The direct action activists will meet in secret, and it'll be like five or six people that are organizing the protest. And they intentionally will be like, you know,

no one can know what we talk about. Don't bring your phone. What they want is they're the instigators. Well, the organizers and the instigators, they want as many young, dumb college kids to form the mass of the protest. They need critical mass. Then they have people who directly instigate, and then they're the ones who are orchestrating everything behind the scenes. The goal being their friends who are given the instructions will throw things at cops.

They'll wait for the normies who are like, yay, I'm marching, to be in a situation where the cops are agitated. They will then walk into the middle of the crowd, crouch down, and throw a water bottle high up in the air so that it lands on a cop. The cops then say, okay, illegal assembly, disperse or you're under arrest.

And then these dumb college kids who have no idea what's going on find themselves being shoved, being hit. It's panic and chaos. Then there's a mass arrest. And then while they're in jail, freaking out, being like, what am I going to do? My parents are gonna be so mad. The cultists who organize it are there and they say, let's sing songs together to get through this. So they do. I'm not kidding. In jail, when there's 50 to 100 people, they'll say, hey, everyone, sing along.

Building a community. Yep. Building a connection. Then when these young people are like freaking out and crying, and mostly younger women, they're hugging them and saying, take my number. Call me if you need anything. You should totally hang out with us. We're going to make sure you're okay.

Now we'll sing songs. Makes sense. And then after this, they get out and they say, see, we were the good guys the whole time we kept you safe even though they were the ones who orchestrate the orchestrated the arrest intentionally to cause panic in these young people now i want to say for all i know this this chick punched a cop i have no idea you know what i mean i don't know what she's being arrested for i'm just saying easy to manipulate people that don't have the experience or the background to also see how this is going to affect them in the future. Like when you're young, you think that you're the best, that nothing could happen to you. You could be reckless. And then when you realize that there's consequences

to these things, you know, you obviously are wanting the support group, right? You want to lean towards anybody that's willing to help you. So I could see that. And I think it's in part because activism became sort of glamorized especially over the last couple years there is a level of being able to say like i went out and i think about uh what was the women's march after trump was inaugurated and they were like i can't tell you how many girls i knew were like and this is my we stayed up all night making posters like check it out like it became sort of this trendy thing to do but there are very serious consequences to going to protests especially when you don't actually know everyone who's involved in this and what their intentions are uh and that's

one of the problem with with it happening on a university campus i mean you know if you're in college you're probably over 18 you're an adult so you're responsible for your actions it is interesting that generally we are all acknowledging that this is something they're doing because it's like, oh, well, everyone else I know is going to this thing. I don't know how many of them are actually super rabidly dedicated to the cause. Yeah. Do you guys have you, is there a cause that has ever made you want to go protest or want in your, in your lifetime? Or, but I don't think it's effective i think it's meaningless and i think it's manipulative so i i was i was protesting in the 2000s when i was a teenager and then of course

they're like the answer is obama he's he's gonna change everything they just blew up kids so what about you is there there no no i don't i don't there hasn't been anything and i mean like i said i'm sort of new into like even caring, which is, you know, I'm not proud of that, but you know, at least, at least now I'm like being awakened, you know, it's, we were talking about the, the, the red pill term. I think it's taken a different meaning now, but in terms of, you know, just kind of being awakened to how things really work. Um, it's, it's partially because of what happened to me. And I'm like, oh, this is how the New York Times operates. This is how America operates. I mean, when I was younger, my cousin, she lives in Mexico. She said, it's so cool that you live in America because you're able to power or if you start a business and it's successful and knocks out somebody big they'll just literally burn your business down you know uh hypothetically what's the word uh they'll do it they'll actually burn it down or whatever and so but so when i

lived in america i'm thinking like oh this doesn't happen in america but now i'm starting to see i mean i think things don't happen in america quote-unquote because people are we're supposed to theoretically have laws in a culture that uh that that prevent these things but you know there's still corruption though is what i'm saying and i think it becomes more rampant as all parts of culture fall apart right like if you don't have a strong um if you don't have a strong shared of ethics and morals, then people's behavior becomes more and more self-serving and corrupt on every level, both in terms of government or business or anything else. And it's why when I, you know, that the image of the girl who's getting arrested, like there is probably a level where even if she did something terrible at this thing,

she feels justified in what she's doing. And there is a level where people who are involved have a different sense of right and wrong because they feel justified in their actions. We're going to jump to the next story because I'm going to disagree with you on this one. Go for it. Only a little bit. But here's a story from the Postmillennial.

I wish I was more educated. Anti-Israel activists at NYU Gaza camp admit they don't know why they are protesting. Okay, look, these are just two women. It's not indicative of the entire ideology of every single person there, but this is going massively viral. And let me play this. And what would you say is the main goal with tonight's protest? I think the goal is just showing our support for Palestine and demanding that NYU stop.

I honestly don't know all of what NYU is doing. Is there something that NYU is doing? I really don't know. I'm pretty sure they're—do you know what NYU is doing. Is there something that NYU is doing? I really don't know. I'm pretty sure they're... Do you know what NYU is doing? About what? About Israel. Why are we protesting here?

I wish I was more educated. I'm not either. I came from Columbia. I was there up at Columbia and we came down. They said NYU students needed our support. So I came down. I heard there's lots of cops. Some people were saying it was getting dangerous.

But does she know why Columbia is protesting? Because they're not protesting anything. I know. It is the cause to latch on to and board college kids who are part of a cult come out and do this. That being said, there are legitimate criticisms of Israel that people have with how they've been handling the war, whether they're going to go into RA or not that I totally get with the with the civilian deaths. I think the the total deaths have been reported by numerous agencies. Now, I don't know how legit these numbers are. Thirty four thousand. And they lump civilians and militants in together.

So I think one estimate is around 23 or so thousand civilian deaths. There's a lot of things you can be upset about. And you're allowed to be. You're allowed to be mad at Hamas. You're allowed to be mad at Israel. Those are okay. And there are people there who are. But most of the people there, I would be willing to bet, have no idea what they're there for.

This reminds me of, remember those Jimmy Kimmel man on the street? They would ask you something like, who's the vice president? But people like that will never make fun of this because it's so polarizing. It's like it will never be a thing where it should be kind of made fun of that. You if you go protest something that you don't even know about that, that's ridiculous. You know what I'm saying? And there are I mean, I watched this interview with a protester at Columbia. And she's like, we want the school to divest from from Israel and anything they do that has to do with Israel.

And there's a level where maybe they can't totally articulate because the next thing she says is like, and then we want them to divest into something else, something better. And she can't really say what that is. Like, again, it's sort of this like this thing about youth, like they want action, they want it now, but they're not really sure what the action is. In this case, it's causing a lot of chaos and destruction for people who don't have a clear set of demands. This is why, you know, you asked earlier if there was like a cause I'd be willing to protest for. And, you know, back in the day, it was war stuff. But any well-intentioned person who can pay attention to what's going on quickly realizes that is not the vehicle for getting change. And I'll give you a good example of my favorite stories and recurring circumstances from Occupy Wall Street. They liked to march around chanting Antica Pita Lista,

anti-capitalist. And they would go, ah, auntie, Antica Pita Lista. If you didn't know what they were saying, because it's not English, then what would you do? And I remember I was filming and there was some guy who was going, who was chanting. And he was going, ah, ah, be David, Estiba, Dista. He had no idea what he was saying. And I immediately turned the camera. I was like, hey, what were you chanting? And he's like, oh, I'm chanting with the group. And I was like, yeah, what did you say?

And he goes, oh, I just, you know, I don't know. He's marching with the group, trying to sound out what they're saying with having no idea what it was. The dude did not know he was chanting a Marxist slogan. Because many of these people, you're on a march and you're told the purpose of it is the big banks got bailed out and they screwed over the working class. And these young people are like, wow, yeah, that's bad. OK, now come chant Marxist slogans.

But they don't tell you that. They just start chanting these things, get you to chant them. You have no idea what's going on. Once again, you can see it's the same old same old do you think it has anything maybe to do with too like the time that we live in that everybody's so hyper online people are so disconnected from like a community of feeling like they belong and so maybe these like protests is like oh i get to like be around people and interact and like a sense of community, maybe? I don't know. People always, yeah. I mean, people are always going to want a

sense of community. That's just part of who we are. And what we're seeing here and what you saw at Occupy, it's actually pretty normal historically. We look at the American Revolution or even something like the Russian Revolution, And you see those and you think, oh, well, I guess in Russia, everyone who was revolting just wanted communism. And in the American colonies, everyone revolting just wanted a constitutional democracy. But that's not true. People in both circumstances were revolting because they weren't happy with present circumstances. It just happened that certain factions are more organized and were able to use people's distaste with the current system for their own motivation and for better or for worse, right? And there's a reason I use two different examples

and it's because sometimes it's really bad and sometimes it's really good. But the reality is when a large group of people get together because they have a grievance, they almost never agree on a solution. And it tends to be a small, organized minority that proposes and implements a solution. Usually it's actually disastrous. Usually it's actually disastrous. But every once in a while in history, we have examples of the people who rise to the top actually having good ideas. So what do you guys think happens with these protests? Like, you know, you mentioned, we talked about this earlier, Columbia's semester is about to end,

you know, theoretically student population is actually dispersed from the campuses. They won't have the same critical mass that they do right now. Like, does this movement just sort of last through the summer or is it going to be the next couple of weeks really intense and then go away? Well, I think what, what did, it, Columbia has given them an extended deadline saying they're allowed to stay? Yeah, they were, initially, they broke down part of the camp and then they're sort of going back and forth negotiating.

Yeah, saying they're not going to call National Guard and they're not going to call NYPD to clear the Gaza camp. And it's already been over, I mean, NYU basically built a border wall around one of the places that they had, that protesters had assembled. But again, like I said, these student

populations are transient typically they're not on campus are they all students too or is it just like anybody that's a good question yeah that's a really good question enough encampment theoretically more students could be like yeah my school's not doing anything i'm out for the summer i'm coming to your encampment over at ut austin or whatever there was a an interview on fox where they asked some guy about what he thought. He was a Columbia student. He's like, I don't know enough about any of it to have an opinion.

I just think it's wrong that they're arresting protesters. And it's like, there's the virtue signal. Even the people there who are like, I don't know what's going on. No, this is the student body. If you speak out against them, you have shunned yourself at this whole university on TV. So yeah, you don't do that

you know that being said i don't see columbia deciding to eliminate their customer base if they like this is this is it's not so much like you know with occupy wall street or blm you have protesters in an area with an autonomous zone or something they have to make a decision about whether or not they want the political backlash, whether or not it's going to escalate the protests, who knows? These are Columbia's paying customers. So what do you do? Do you kick them out and then lose paying customers? Interesting. What do you think about Bill Ackman and the stuff that he, like, I guess they were like exposing certain students that were on a list or something or that had put their names on a list. You guys know about that or no?

Yeah, there was a letter that was signed a long time, a while ago. I think this was last year. Right after the attacks in October. Yeah, right. And it was a letter in support effectively of or it was critical of Israel. And I don't remember the exact details, but I think it had support for Palestine conflated as support for Hamas. It may have overlapped. And then these billionaires basically said-

They outed them, right? Or they outed the people that signed it? No, the people who signed it, publicly signed it. Oh, okay, okay. They said, we're now no longer gonna hire any of you. Oh, that's right. And then they all panicked and started apologizing, saying we didn't realize what we signed.

I guess it comes down to what is the accountability for the people that are doing this? If there's no accountability or if they're actually doing something bad, then nothing will happen. You know what something bad, then nothing will happen. You know what I mean? Then nothing will happen. Or if people actually went BLM,

they were like burning things down and all that kind of stuff. And there was still no accountability for that. What do we do about this? Do we, first of all, it's Columbia. So I'm kind of like Columbia can do what Columbia wants. If people who go to the school are being discriminated against and it's overt discrimination, then I think we've got a civil rights violation.

And then that actually becomes a matter which the public gets involved in. But if Columbia has private grounds where you can pay to go to Columbia and then they decide to do what they want, I will just laugh. I have no sympathy for the people who fomented this. You know, you've got that one professor, that Jewish professor, and I'm just like, look, man, y'all are part of these institutions that have pushed this ideology while we've been screaming, stop pushing this ideology. And now they're like, oh, no, I've caught fire with the thing I've been creating. OK, sorry, I guess. Good luck. Yeah, it's again like I think these institutions are really seeing the fruits of their labor, so to speak. Right. Like they specifically wanted and encouraged left wing progressive, even at times radical ideology in faculty, students and staff. And at a certain point, they are now facing the product of their own making. I think one of the things that I'm curious about, and again, for me,

it's really interesting that all the semesters are coming to an end and what will this turn into? Because I think a lot of, I wouldn't be surprised if the conversation behind closed doors

among administrators is, we just kind of have to wait this out until they move out for the summer. Unless the administrators are like, it's really good this is happening. Let's not let anyone realize how much we hate Israel, too. Right.

I think there are. I mean, like, there are professors that have come out in support of these protests. Like, it's just, it is internal chaos. And for me, because I think the university system is really off base of what traditional universities should be, it's sort of good to have them have to reexamine their priorities and their own standards for one another. I just don't know that this, I just don't know that people who have created and cultivated progressive academia have ever considered the fact that they would eat themselves one day.

Let's jump to the next story. This is big news. From NPR, President Biden signs law toiktok nationwide unless it's sold and uh it wasn't just that the bill also gives 95 billion dollars in aid to ukraine israel and taiwan you literally you can't do anything without giving billions of dollars in aid to ukraine it's crazy how they're all linked exactly yeah that'd be funny it's like we have a bill to provide school lunches to children and give seven billion dollars to ukraine it's everything all the time and then when you vote against it they're like so you don't want kids to eat lunch exactly crazy exactly so so

is this the same bill that was like last month it was passed through one yes okay and i didn't hear that much about the the ukraine and well they added they they put them in one yeah they put them in one bill and uh that was to basically guarantee all these things pass because congress is corrupt and it's what they do but uh the component we have here is that uh tiktok will now be banned unless it's sold and so uh this is really funny i love this so the reason why tiktok is facing a ban is because of israel it's because uh a couple years ago don Donald Trump wanted to ban TikTok because it's pushing far left ideology and things like this.

But the argument was, oh, it's stealing your data, which I mean, it's taking your data and it's giving it to the Chinese Communist Party in essence, I suppose. And the Democrats were like, no, no, don't. We won't ban it. The Supreme Court blocked it. Then October 7th happened and a bunch of content was pro-Israel on TikTok. And then a week later, it shifted heavily into pro-Israel. Many suggested that meant there was a, a, an algorithm. It was weighted. It was pushing pro-Palestinian content, or it could have been organized groups were

manipulating TikTok to do this. All of a sudden, Democrats now get on board with banning TikTok. Well, donors started calling them. I mean, this is all true. This is all public knowledge. It's in numerous interviews. Large donors who are Jewish and pro-Israel, so even evangelicals, were calling TikTok. I'm sorry, were calling Democrats, not TikTok, and saying, why are you allowing this app to indoctrinate young people in this way? Democrats then got on board. But my favorite thing about it is all of that is public and true. And it's like I've tweeted it probably 12 times.

But these these Israel derangement syndrome people are like, whoa, look at Tim. He's waking up. He's figuring it out. And I'm like, maybe you should have watched the show when they literally announced it. That's exactly what we said when we had the news. But this could mean the end of TikTok. And I'm for it. you should have watched the show when they literally announced it. That's exactly what we said when we had the news. But this could mean the end of TikTok. And I'm for it. Don't care.

Sorry. Let me show you this tweet from Nuance Bro. He says, I'm going to be petty about this. TikTok banned me about two years ago. It allegedly wasn't even due to my content. They apparently thought I was someone impersonating myself or something. I offered to do whatever verification they needed so they could verify that I am deed myself, but they refused and they said the decision was final. Pretty sure they just look for any excuse to ban people that aren't leftists, but at the end of the day,

it's looking like I'll get the last laugh. If they didn't ban me, maybe I'd join others in calling for TikTok not to get banned, but they want to engage in some of the worst censorship of any platform and then cry about the government doing the same to them sorry i have no sympathy and i actually agree with nuance bro now lisa elizabeth lisa reynolds who actually works here says this might be a low iq post laughing emoji but takes one to know one lisa but i'll stress tim cast irl was banned and it was because in one segment we were discussing um data that showed women in the workplace have have the workplace have the highest rates of depression for all female demographics. So like single mothers, married with children, and married with children in the workplace, not working. Women who are at work had higher rates of depression compared to all other groups in any capacity.

Simply for showing the data, banned. And it's not the first time either they they ban you and you can make a new account and so we've been restricted and censored and i'm telling you perhaps it is personal bias but we know that tiktok is pushing like creepy progressive propaganda you're right about that they allow some conservative stuff on there but it is pressure release valve stuff. So there's been a lot of people who are like, no, there's conservative content. I don't understand. I'm like, yes.

And what they're doing is 60% is leftist and 40% is conservative. That way, conservatives feel like they're still here, but they're intentionally suppressing the right and making sure that the left gets front and center stage so that young people lose their mind and cause themselves harm. I don't think that should be allowed. And although it's bad that they've got warrantless wiretapping on us, that shouldn't be allowed either. I'd rather have the United States government spying on me than the Chinese government. Because at the very least, I can file FOIA requests. I can file lawsuits. It's extremely difficult to go up against the U.S. government and their surveillance apparatus.

But it's impossible to go up against China. So I'll take what I can get. But I actually agree with Nuance Bro. TikTok is the most censorious platform, followed by Facebook. They are the worst, and Instagram. And I'm supposed to shed a tear for TikTok now that they might get banned unless they sell to U.S. interests? Sorry, Crimea River. Also, I just want to U.S. interests? Sorry, Crimea River. Also, I just want to mention one thing.

I do think it's hilarious that they have the option to sell to American interests or to an American company as if that would ever do anything to eliminate the Chinese influence. I mean, so much of corporate America is at the beck and call of the CCP. Sure. Like, of course, it would be better if they were owned by an American company. But at this point, I'm just saying, I think it's great to get rid of it. I think it's great to get rid of it. I'm not thrilled that that clause is even in there.

If it's sold to U.S. interests, the content will be moderately similar. Woke, far left, psychotic garbage. However, it will be a bit more difficult to censor because we will have the ability to sue the owners who are Americans. Good luck suing China. Yeah. No, they ban you, they ban you. And now you've got the CEO being like 175 million Americans are using this app. I'm like, yeah, that's a case for you getting banned. You get no, exactly. You're explaining how widespread the problem is. China would never. They would never allow this. China doesn't allow the U.S. to run companies in its country.

Why would we allow China to have ownership control or a stake or a board seat in any capacity that has such a massive influence on our economy, let alone the minds of our young people? Yuri Bezmenov, is he still alive? He's not alive, right? I don't know. He's the former KGB fellow. He's alive? Oh, okay. I was going to say he's spinning former KGB fellow. He's alive? Oh, okay. I was going to say he's spinning in his grave. So now he's spinning his rocking chair then. He's rocking in his chair.

But no, I would agree with you. The Chinese government is not in any way a fan of the United States of America. And we know that they understand the way we think way better than we understand the way that they think. He died 30 years ago. Yes, Serge. He's still alive. He's serving his grave. But China has done things like stood in solidarity

with George Floyd and the BLM riots and called the American system racist, even though in order to sell Star Wars films in China, Disney has to decrease the size of black actors on their posters, right? China is a very racist country, but they also know that racism is something that really tugs at the heartstrings of Americans that Americans care about. They know our buzzwords.

And so exactly. They know how to manipulate us. The fact that they know how to manipulate us so well, and they're running this service, the social media service that millions of Americans are using, yeah, it should give people pause. And I think, again, it's an argument for banning it to say 174 million Americans, whatever the numbers are using it. There's a sort of salty post on Axios right now pointing out to the Biden administration is or the Biden reelection campaign is continuing to be active on TikTok, even though he just signed this bill. Yeah, it's one of these things that, you know, we talked about Palestine a little bit,

and there's a division between young left-leaning or progressive voters and older left voters. But I almost wonder if being the president that banned TikTok is going to be just another way that Biden loses the youth vote right now. I am not necessarily saying that he shouldn't have signed it or that the TikTok ban is bad. I just think that like, it is surprising to me that Joe Biden, who's trying to be like the cool hip grandpa is now taking away TikTok from these people he's trying to court during an election year. I'm a little torn because I've obviously, I basically in 2019, it was when musically turned into TikTok. I remember.

It's that's when I was representing the biggest TikTokers in the world. I represented Charlie D'Amelio, Addison Rae. Charlie, I think, and her sister make 17 million dollars a year. And they were just, you know, high school kids that basically blew up overnight. But to see how quickly TikTok has become drunk with power, it seems like I remember in 2019, they were just so happy if I referred them a celebrity that would get on and they would verify just about anybody. And now you're seeing that they and over the years, I've seen this that they are, they do like events for only black

creators. They do events for only LGBTQ. And, you know, it's, it's very woke in the sense of that. And then even in the beginning, there was, uh, like in 2019, there was, uh, people I represented that, you know, if they, if they danced in a bikini, they, they would get banned or they would get, uh, you weren't allowed to go live for a couple weeks. And so what happens is like people start to follow the rules, right? You fall in line. OK, well, I guess I can't post with my shirt off or, you know, even if you're a guy.

So they fall in line. But then they also see, OK, well, you know, conservatives can't get verified on there. Like Joe Paggs, he's a big time radio host. He has tons of followers and tons of views and he's like i can't get verified on tiktok for whatever reason and then evie magazine britney was messaging me because i used to have an in over there now they don't really pick up my call as much but i do he doesn't uh no no tiktok okay no evie asked me for help because um they were they're not able to advertise their I guess it's like anti birth

control program or I don't know if it's I don't know what it is. They were selling something that was doing well on TikTok. And now they got kicked off of the of the shop. And I think it's because like either the Washington Post or whoever called in was like, why is this on TikTok? And then they just shut you down. I mean, I had a direct access. Everybody was nice to me at TikTok. And then Taylor ends, writes a bad article and I can't get one person on the phone. So it's very much of a class system with the social media things. And like Tim, you're talking about, you're experiencing it with YouTube. I mean, so many people, I think it's like 86% of people 13 to 38 want to become content creators. Think

about what a big population is that. And then you're talking about who controls it, Facebook, or, you know, meta, TikTok, there's only it's all these monopolies. And I've been paying attention to David Sachs. So he has the opposite opinion. And I do sort of think it's important to listen to guys like that. He's a VC guy. He invested in like Facebook, Uber, Airbnb, smart guy talking to all the people at the top. And, you know, he he's very much against the TikTok ban. So I don't know. I don't really know. I definitely and then there's a girl that was saying that they're they're going to start doing class action lawsuits. I don't know

if that's to the government for shutting down and people losing their income. The creator was saying that they don't think that it's going to happen for a long time. Like there's going to be a lot of pushback. They'd lose in two seconds. The bill will never actually formally ban TikTok. It can't do that. It would restrict TikTok from appearing on the app and Play Store and using U.S. servers, which means they would simply say the app still exists. They're still able to use it. But are they going to tie up this whole thing in litigation for years until? Yeah, probably. Yeah. TikTok's going to sue. The Supreme Court might even strike this down and say, you can't do this, which is kind of troublesome in essence. I mean, China is an adversary of the United States. It's tough, I get it, but we can't allow China

to have a foothold in our economy this strong to the point where people would sue the government. Like, I'll mention this. China controls a portion of our economy. It's not a big, well, it's arguably a big portion with manufacturing, but in TikTok. So the US government says, okay, this is a problem for us, portion of manufacturing, but in TikTok. So the U.S. government says, okay, this is a problem for us,

so we're going to shut it down. And the American people sue the American government to keep China in control of this economic machine. Well, okay, you have to ask the question too, like let's say the Supreme Court,

this goes to the Supreme Court, and it's argued that this is some kind of First Amendment violation. Does anyone in their right mind actually think the reason the founders penned the First Amendment was so that foreign powers could collect sensitive data on American citizens? It's not a matter. I don't even care about the data. It's it's sending kids videos of

of of creepy. Let's just let's just degenerate behavior. Things that will lead them to self-harm will increase. It's not good. No good. It will increase self-harm. Not good. No. Yeah. However, I do think that should this go through, the end result is, let's say TikTok says, no, we will not divest. You know, ByteDance will not divest.

We will not sell. The App Store and the Play Store remove the app. That's it. You can still open up TikTok on your phone. You can still watch any TikTok you want. People will sell phones that still have TikTok on them. No, I'm serious. This is like what happened with Flappy Bird.

People will do that. They'll hold onto their phone that has TikTok. Not Android phones. Android phones will simply go to TikTok.us and click download and they're fine. Oh, wow. But the App Store, because Apple is a closed operating system, will not allow you to download it through their store.

So you'd have to jailbreak the phone and then use an external store. But so long as TikTok isn't using US services, you are still allowed to use TikTok. It's not banned. So they would sue and they'd say, oh, my business was hurt because of this. And they'd say, and what is the problem? It's legislation. Congress is allowed to legislate. TikTok is not banned. You're still able to use it. What's the problem? The action taken by the government resulted in a smaller audience size. I don't think you can sue for that. Well, I think that what makes TikTok so valuable and addictive is really the algorithm that they set up from the very beginning where anybody can basically blow up overnight. And I mean,

I saw it happen with a lot of people I represented. I mean, you had somebody that had 10,000 followers and then two months later they had 10 million. And so I think what's happening too is even though a lot of the different platforms have tried to copy TikTok and the algorithm, it's like you saw it with Twitter, like to unwind all the code and to like build in what you want,

it's not that simple. It's complex. it's complex it's complex and uh even i think uh chamath and david sacks were talking about if it does divest like if if uh nobody's going to go through every line of code and like make sure that there's no like easter eggs uh that the chinese are still uh in control of or whatever. So, yeah, but as far as it being an app that is probably damaging to young people and the way that their brains are, you know, forming and all that, 100%. But is that something that the government controls

or, you know, that we vote on as Americans? I don't know. I mean, I definitely think that, like, TikTok is ultimately more harmful than it is good for Americans. The argument that the CEO of TikTok made, especially when he testified before Congress, was, well, so many people have businesses

and careers that are now TikTok-based, so you're actually hurting them economically, and that's terrible, and you can't do that. The fact is that we have other forms of social media if you wanted to be an influencer. Most influencers aren't just only on one platform and the funny thing is if you look at the uh i think it's tiktok creators instagram all they were trying to like get people to like call your local congressman or senator people and all the comments were like we don't even like you guys don't take care of us anymore you don't pay us like they were there was

so many influencers but big accounts they were they were turning their back on tiktok and so um you know is youtube going to become more powerful meta when if it does get just shut down yes but does that give people opportunity to start new things twitter um so the funny thing is if someone made a social media app right now and just gave everyone fake followers they'd all be like oh tiktok's dumb like how do you even verify any of those numbers on any of these social media platforms that's what we would all ask when tiktok started like remember facebook video so 10 years ago i'm at a meeting with a big major cable channel network and we're talking about um YouTube versus

Facebook and I said well YouTube's obviously it's the engagement you want and they were like yeah but look at the views you get on Facebook and I was like but those aren't real views yeah and they were like it doesn't matter when we go to advertisers and we say we get a million views on YouTube and 10 million on Facebook we we increase our revenue 10x and then i'm like how long is that gonna these are not engaging views no one's buying and they were like facebook video is it and there was a big scandal where apparently facebook got sued or something because the video views that advertisers were paying for were like not actual so uh you know i'm not gonna accuse tiktok of anything i'm just saying if someone made an app called um you know, I'm not going to accuse TikTok of anything. I'm just saying. If someone made an app called, you know, KitKat.

TimTok. And this is yours. Sure. And people signed up. And then all of a sudden it was like, well, I'm on TikTok, KitKat, and Instagram. And I have 10 million followers on KitKat. They'd be like, I'm going there. Now, you've got to be careful with it.

If you just gave someone 10 million followers, nobody would believe it. Back during the MySpace era, it was really funny to see these bands. That was like a random guy and he had four billion plays on his music and it's just like dude you went too far you want to give yourself like 10 000 so it looks like you're an up-and-coming band and then you get the opening act on on you know on a tour or something but if you put multi-platinum like i guess he's going to the club to pick up girls or something good luck yeah well and it's it's really troubling

because the way you would usually be able to tell whether the views were authentic was engagement there's just a certain ratio you're going to get a certain number of comments per actual view you're going to get a certain number of upvotes and downvotes per actual view if a video says it has you know a hundred thousand views but then there's five likes and two dislikes. Well, it's probably not genuine. But now that we have AI and these bots are going to be more sophisticated, they'll be able to much more easily fake engagement. You used to be able to fake views, but not engagement.

Now you're going to be able to fake engagement. I'm going to give the shout out to Dave Kross in the regular chat. He says, Facebook contributed to the Arab Spring. TikTok is, could do that here. And that's true. to uh dave crose in the regular chat he says facebook contributed to the arab spring tiktok is could do that here and that's true and that's why a big reason why it's a national security threat whether you agree or disagree isn't isn't what doesn't matter the arab spring was largely organized through facebook and twitter particularly in egypt i believe the um the woman's name was was it asma mafous I could be getting the name wrong.

Used Facebook to organize people to come and protest against the government, and it toppled the government twice. So if China has an app with this much influence in the U.S., well, good luck, I guess. You're going to become a vassal state to the Chinese Communist Party. Good luck. Well, isn't it funny that when social media was used to incite the Arab Spring, you had political leaders like Obama just praising social media platforms as these uncensored paradises and basically suggesting that this is the way for the future. And as soon as those same platforms use, and I'm not talking about TikTok here, but Twitter, Facebook, generally speaking, and particularly Twitter,

now that Musk is in charge, now that they're being used to give Americans a voice to speak up against our government, now they're dangerous. Now they need to be shut down. Now we have to be very concerned about what's happening on these platforms.

Yeah. I mean, to be fair, American platforms are all kinds of messed up and nefarious too. But I think the added element of a foreign national government that is directly, you know, that has ties to the company's operation is just a risk I think it maybe really spurred influencer culture and social media dependence. And so I had like, you know, a golden nugget that everybody wanted. And so her talent agency, you know, my opinion, like, that's why she went after me, because I had something valuable, which was these influencers that were creating content on, on TikTok. But I don't know i think do you think that uh uh do you think that uh like these people are allowed to turn up the volume or turn the volume

down right they're allowed to say you know you're not allowed to dance around a bikini and i'm not saying there should be more censorship but is there a reason why you think that they're not turning down the volume on let's say anti--Semitism or, you know, war. I don't know. Like they decide what they're going to put. On all platforms. Like you even look at Elon Musk, right? The ADL goes after X.

Elon travels to Israel. He comes back. He says, we're going to take this seriously. The U.S., I don't think actually cares about Jewish people or black people. I don't think they care about any of that. I think they care about military policy. And Israel is a key component in U.S. military policy in the Middle East. And so they're just like, we can't allow sentiment against this.

But they're losing that because of TikTok. So when TikTok allows for this massive, I mean mean it really is simple when when x allows uh criticism of israel or anti-semitism the the advertisers come down super super hard what can you do to tiktok funded by the ccp or external sources they don't care for the advertising they can do whatever they want they can't control it so they they have to stop it i don't think the issue is jewish people i think the u.s is concerned that we are going to have a youth, like the sentiment in this country among young people is anti-Israel. I tweeted this.

I think support for Israel is done. You've got the MAGA side, which is anti-interventionist, many of whom deeply support Israel, but are like, but I ain't paying for it. And then you have the left populists, which are just like Israel's evil and they don't want to pay for it. Give it 20 to 40 years and U.S. military policy in the Middle East is flipped on its head. Massive advantage for China and Russia and the BRICS nations. So the deep state is between a rock and a hard place because, well, they supported it.

They ignored the problems. They're super arrogant and they reap what they've sown but like so the platform though is able to say uh for example if you talk about gender ideology you're walking on a you know people have gotten suspended banned right from on youtube because they talk about the gender ideology situation and so does that then make it so more people are uh so one side basically the argument is silenced and the other is allowed to grow and be the popular thing, right? That's the point. The fact is we're giving the platforms the ability to shape culture in that way because so many people want to be content creators. They say we got to follow the rules.

So we're not allowed to criticize gender ideology and that stuff because YouTube says we're not. That's where I think it gets dangerous because who are the people pulling the strings at the platforms? If I were going to rank the platforms in terms of free speech, you could certainly, it depends on how reductive you want to get and how small you want to get. Gab, for obvious reasons, has a really high free speech rating. Minds.com does. In terms of the big players right now, Rumble is probably the best, followed by X. And they go back and forth a little bit, but I do think Rumble is substantially better than X on free speech. X, for instance, has a misgendering policy. So it's like, what do you do? YouTube actually is not as bad as a lot

of people claim. Not to claim it is but it is still it is a massive leap you go from x and rumble and then you're in the gutter of of censorship so i will stress youtube is very bad on censorship they're very very bad i'm just saying people think youtube is like oh youtube's so bad they're doing this youtube's bad agreed facebook is insane tiktok is the worst tiktok will censor you in two seconds for no reason, just because they're like, my assumption is behind the scenes, if you run afoul of their narrative, they don't care. They don't need to abide by any of the rules. There's no contracts and then you can do about it. They ban you and they laugh. Facebook at least has to contend

with US lawmakers and lawsuits. Facebook is the next worst. And then I would say, Facebook and Instagram, and then YouTube. And so if we were doing like a scale of like, uh, one being the worst censorship platform and 100 being the, the best platform for free speech, rumble is probably like a 93 X is like an 85 or 80. Right. And then YouTube is 23. Facebook is 15. Instagram is similar. And then TikTok is a two. Two years ago, I got banned for a month for going live and just explaining the lawsuit against Taylor Lorenz and the New York Times.

And the reason was for harassment and bullying. And I'm like, what? Let me jump to this story. This one's funny from nbc news meta stock plunges 15 as company plans to invest heavily in artificial intelligence i also want to shout out the typo in the headline there i wonder if they fixed it yet and nope they still have not fixed the heavily i um so here's the funny thing on on tiktok band day you would think that meta stock would skyrocket yeah it's tanking i think boy i don't know what the the estimated loss is but it's massive

actually let me see if i can pull up the um meta stock so you can actually see the massive drop off. Take a look at that. Whoa. Yeah, that's a big dip from 493 down to 411. That is massive. That's what, like 20, almost 20 percent in a day. Is that what it is? Or the past five days? Oh, OK. So this is after hours. Interesting.

So we're going to we're going're gonna we're gonna see what happens when this they're not giving us the actual numbers but there were a lot of uh members of congress who bought a bunch of meta stock right before they all voted to ban tiktok yep that's actually really and so this kind of feels pretty good because uh you know i see all these reports and it's like here's a list of members of congress who bought stock in meta just before voting to ban tiktok and it's a lot of people and it's a good amount of money and then when the ban happens meta stock plunges and i'm just like yeah i can't even believe that's allowed for them to do that uh to be able to buy the stocks and all that that's that's why they're

all millionaires that's why they're all super rich that's why their salary is 174 000 a year but they're but half of them are millionaires or more. And for the most part, they don't care that it hasn't changed, right? Who's going to vote against it? Like, who's going to vote to ban what makes you rich? It's like, we're all here in this room. It's like, who wants to vote to take away all of our sodas and shut the show down? Like, no, no, we're benefiting from it. Look, if our politicians were intelligent enough, economically speaking, to have the kinds of stock portfolios that they have with the income they have, there would be no excuse for our economy to look the way that it looks.

Yeah, I think got to tip my hat to you, Tim, because, you know, it seems like you took it on the chin and you have you have plans and you have people that, you know, some of these tick tockers, I see them and I'm like, why aren't you focusing on other platforms and getting the email addresses and all that stuff? But it's it's hard to run a business when you're totally at the mercy of of a, you're building and doing all these things. It's, it's, I would be a lot more, uh, stressed out about it, but you, you know, you just seem to, to move forward. And that's inspiring, I think, because it's not easy to build a business like this. And I know because, um, I've been in the industry for a long time. So I think people go to Congress because they feel like there's very think people go to Congress because they feel like there's very few people go to Congress because they want to make things better. I think they're mostly just slightly below mediocre people who are like, I am just so awful. The only way I will ever matter

is if I'm in office and they're forced to know my name. And so that that's Congress. That's not being funny it's mediocre people they have limited skills and they're like all i have to do is look it's real simple you put on a jumpsuit you slap the stickers for all the corporate brands that are sponsoring you and funding your your candidacy and they say hey we'll we'll give 50 million a year super pack if uh not 50 but like if you're a member of congress we'll give you two million a year super PAC, if not 50, but like if you're a member of Congress, we'll give you 2 million a year super PAC. Just, you know, don't forget us. We got a bill we want that we will want you to put through.

And then when they're in Congress, what was it? Who was it was telling us? Was it Matt Gaetz mentioning this, that you have to pay money to get your committee seats? That was Thomas Massey, I think. I think that was Matt Gaetz. I'm not sure. But when a congressman came and told us this. Yeah.

Oh, I know. This was on the Culture War show with two former staffers. Lisa Reynolds actually was on that show. And they were talking about how Matt Gaetz went in and said, I want these committees. And they were like, okay, well, then you've got to give us money. And he said, what would I get if I gave you a check for $500,000 right now? And they're like, oh, you can have any committee you want. And that's how the game is played. So you have a lot of people.

I think Matt's great. I don't lump him in with these people. But you have a lot of people who are just like, you've never heard their name. They're in Congress and they're mediocre people who are like, well, I'm worthless. Maybe I'll just suckle the teat of the corporate political arm and do as they say. And then people will put my name in the history books and then they'll get their name written on a, on stone or something. And that's why they do it. Then they go and when it's time to vote, they're like, don't know, don't care. Whatever whatever the corporations tell me to do, whatever the intelligence agencies say.

Look at Mike Johnson, man. That guy's a disappointment. Mike Johnson's like, well, I went into the into the confidential, secure, confidential room with the deep state and came out. And now I'm going to do literally everything they say, no matter what. Do you think the effort to oust him is going to work? I don't know. mean what's the point do you guys think that the the tiktok ban or the thing forcing them to divest do you think that that all these people in the government have been like briefed by the nsa ncaa and and that we'll never know any of the reasons why they all got on board it It's why it's so bipartisan.

Or is it something else, maybe more nefarious? Wait, why they got on board? The TikTok ban? Yeah, like, because it's a bipartisan thing, right? Yeah, because of Israel. Okay. But this is public knowledge. This is not a secret.

There's no conspiracy. After October 7th, there was a bunch of pro-Israel content on TikTok. A week went by, and it shifted dramatically towards pro-Israel content on TikTok. A week went by and it shifted dramatically towards pro-Palestine, which many researchers said, and this part's speculative in opinion, it looked like a weighted algorithm that TikTok either intentionally did this or foreign countries launched an influence campaign intentionally promoting pro-Palestine content, targeting young people. And either way, whether TikTok did it on purpose or foreign countries were launching these things to generate the sentiment, the U.S. had no control over it. Donors started calling Democrats saying, ban this app, don't allow this.

And they said, OK. And then Democrats got on board instantly saying, you got it. Whatever you say, big donors. And it is now they want to ban tiktok trump's uh the trump faction and republicans wanted to ban it because it's promoting degeneracy and it's right it's promoting basically democrat policies it used to be that we were very much um in tune with like the government well maybe not always but you know at least i did is like the government. Well, maybe not always, but you know, at least I did is like the government knows better about what's best for me, like for the FDA, like something to get approved. Like I don't have the sophistication to be able to say, okay, yeah, the Chinese have my information and how that is damaging and, and all the different things. But I think with, with COVID

and everything else, it's like, we don't have the same trust in those institutions. And so it's also like, I don't actually know who has the best interest if they are banning it because this is bad for the information, or if it's, you get what I'm saying? Yeah, the trust in government's law, and so basically everyone is serving their own interests. And I think that's probably true. I mean, there are people who would be on either side of this issue for their own reasons or for reasons they're not disclosing and presenting themselves as being the good guys. I mean, I think ultimately this is always the gamble with, you know, having any sort of collective government. You know, you have to

send someone to represent you and that person has to hopefully have good morals and make decisions that are just. What bothers me about all of these bills is that they tend to roll so many things into them, right? Like, I think we should vote on aid separately. I think that this TikTok thing should have been added. I think it's very strange. There was one of the senators who was talking during debate earlier this week was mentioning the fact that, you know, the chambers are supposed to go on recess soon. So they're saying like, well, we're kind of on a deadline. We can't amend this again

because then we have to send it to the House or the House would go on, whatever. Like, this is not how law fairs would go. Yeah, that's one of the reasons. Like, there are a whole bunch of things that are happening that as the average American voter, you don't have basically the space to run your own life and also be like, well, I've got to stay on my congressman so he doesn't try and pull something

nefarious by scheduling a vote at a time when there becomes this deadline. And so I think it's a rough time to be an American voter and saying like, well, I don't know where I stand on all these issues, but also I don't know that I can trust everyone who's involved in making it happen. What's funny though is like 200 years ago or not even that long ago, let's say like 100, 120 years ago, you're a member of Congress,

you'd have no idea what they were doing. They'd go and they'd hang out and they'd just be like, whatever, yes, no, maybe I don't care. And then people would just be like, well, I hope they're doing it. before social media you mean too or like when you had radio for radio like when we were still getting our mail delivered by the pony express like you know what i'm saying like there are so many advances in technology that actually make it

easier to keep an eye on what's going on in some ways it makes it almost more bizarre that we are watching in real time all these like kind of crazy things happen you know like when you get like what was it the border security bill but it wasn't actually the border security bill at all they kept calling it the border bill in the media and then it was actually all foreign aid and they're like also we could let this many thousand uh illegal aliens in every year like we are able to fact check faster and to catch these things. On the other hand, it doesn't dissuade any politician from carrying on business as usual. I find that discouraging.

Yeah. Well, then, shall we go to Super Chats? Yeah. Before we do, my friends, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with all your friends, and head over to TimCast.com. Click join us to become a member. That way you can watch the uncensored members only call in show, which will be coming up at 10 p.m. And I would say to all of our detractors, have you an issue? Well, why don't you actually join the discord, argue with people and submit questions and call in and make your beef loud and heard by all.

And we'll actually have that discussion because y'all are welcome to do that. The big issue, however, is that we face censorship. That's right, from YouTube. And while we are currently discussing things with top men, make sure you follow us on X at Timcast and Rumble.com slash Timcast IRL, but also become a member at Timcast.com because that's how we run the whole show. Without you as members, we don't exist. So if you'd like us to exist, then become a member at timcast.com because that's how we run the whole show. Without you as members, we don't exist. So if you'd like us to exist, then become a member. Now we'll read your super chats.

And if YouTube allows me to, actually. Oh, you know what? I have to read this one first. It just came in because it's for Seamus. It's not for Seamus, to I have to read this one let's see F uh F the magician says the same people that shouted punch a Nazi are now chanting from the river to the sea and death to Israel Seamus there's a there's a cartoon in there somewhere where like either there's a time machine involved or they're just marching down the street chanting

death to Israel and punching themselves in the face oh my gosh yeah well as we all know right this this charge of uh being a nazi or whatever else they'd label you with was never actually sincere it was just an excuse to do violence against you so if i call you that then people can hurt you and yeah yeah there could be something there there could be something there you could do uh basically an homage to that that bringing back the world war ii soldiers to the future one oh my gosh and this is antifa built a calling they they use a time machine to bring themselves from 10 years ago to the future oh my gosh that would get actually really good yeah yeah that'd be awesome um we brought the time machine back in a couple cartoons recently. One where they brought Hitler and Stalin back.

So maybe we'll keep using it. How long does it take you to make one of those full feature things? So we do at least one cartoon a week. We do at least one cartoon a week. And I have a fantastic team, and all of us just really grind to get it done quickly. It takes them like 20 minutes. He's just really lazy.

It's true. It's always the night before they all start they don't they don't work on it during the week it's true there's no work done yeah i'm just always curious about like you know the all the pieces that go into it but i'm sure like writing it is the first thing yeah i think the the best cartoon uh seamus ever did was when tim pool threatened people who didn't buy chickens that was amazing that was a really good cartoon. Thank you. And it was real, I mean, it was just audio I took from you. He took audio from my show where I was like, buy a chicken. Maybe you do. Maybe

you don't. You'll regret it or something like that. I gotta go back and look it up. You guys gotta check that one out. It was me basically saying like, if you buy chickens, you'll be happy and outside, but the way it sounded, Seamus turned it into me torturing a guy. Because you're like, no, if you don't buy, like, you can either have chickens or you'll be happy and outside but the way it sounded Seamus turned it into me torturing a guy you're like you know if you don't buy like you can either have chickens or you can be surrounded by a mob yeah yeah you guys I was talking about I can't even I want to I want to find I can't

remember what I named it it's like Tim Pool threatens you or something do you have like do you have like different ideas of like what they could be and then you get around with your team and you're like which one does everybody like and the chickens won one yeah well no i mean we're just always like what are we doing now what do we do now because there's so we have to make them so quickly to keep yeah yeah and uh i just had this audio and i was like we need to make this it's called tim pool out of context from free agents did you say you have a podcast where you're gonna team talk about how you decide like what to make or how what the process is? So behind the paywall, after we finish a video, we'll usually record a short podcast on how we made it, what the process was like, the parts we enjoyed, the parts that were difficult. And we just sort of let the audience in on that.

Or we let the paying members in on that. FreedomTunes.com. I hung out with them. We got to read some Super Chats. Sorry about that, dog. Stephen Says says, first to like, he beat Clint Torres, and that's likely because we launched the show a little earlier on YouTube today. Wow.

Dick Nemo says, boomers tell you to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, but neglect to mention they stole your bootstraps and also put you in debt before you were born. Ouch. Yeah, yeah. I don't blame all boomers for it because many boomers gave a star trek the next generation and deep space nine you know i wonder if voyager is okay i wonder if we could calculate the cumulative student loan debt of all of the protesters involved you know what i mean like every single one of those people i mean not all of them problem are getting really fantastic

scholarship based on all sorts of great merits i'm sure but a lot of them took out huge loans and are now like we hate this school we're gonna protest maybe you should just drop out and stop paying them all right alpha turkey says also usc has gone remote for classes tomorrow i'm sure the schools are super excited they're like how much money do we save by going remote and they're like oh it's like 30 40 000 a day i mean actually how much do you think it costs? Probably Columbia is probably 100 grand a day or some ridiculous number, right?

With staffing, janitors, electricity, the cleaning supplies, the groundskeeping. They're probably saving a lot of money. Food, right?

If you don't have students on campus, you don't have to serve meals. That's a huge... This is in order to prevent what is going on right now. Or it's to deter further escalations. I think some schools are starting to announce preemptively, like, don't protest here. We'll have consequences.

We're going online. But. All right. Brian Egan says, getting tired of lefties claiming binary gender is a social construct that we just made up. Like, that isn't exactly what they're doing. Agreed. They're making up tons of genders. Yeah, exactly.

It's projecting. The Emperor Champion says, why do so many judges act like they have the power of God and anime on their side? Oh, wow. Seems like they think they can do whatever they want. Is he even watching Judge Matt Walsh? That was funny. I've only seen clips but I don't know much about it.

Someone tweeted that Matt Walsh tried to enforce the death penalty on someone in one of the cases or something. I don't know. But it was quite clearly a joke. That's hilarious. I saw a couple moments of it. I thought it was pretty funny. I haven't seen it yet but I guess it's just absolutely

satirical. He's just goofing off. there was a one clip i saw that i commented on where he's talking to a woman and she mentions fully nude strip clubs and he's like fully nude as opposed to what and it's just like oh heavens me you wholesome met walsh he does he does not know that there are different kinds of strip clubs and then he's like well i was raised by two loving parents so i have no idea and i'm like he then he's like, well, I was raised by two loving parents, so I have no idea. He's correct, but I also had two loving parents, and I suppose growing up in a different environment,

there are, this is an actually important distinction to be made. Uh-oh. There are strip clubs where women aren't allowed to get naked in any way. They're called bikini bars. Women are on stage with stripper poles, and they have to wear thick, firm undergarments. So they're basically wearing swimwear. They strip their clothes off.

They dance on the pole, but they're totally covered. Then you have topless bars, where it's illegal in some states for women to take their bottoms off. So, you know, you can see the top, but you can't see the bottom. And then you have some states that allow fully nude, but it's not everywhere. I think, like, South Dakota is fully clothed. And some of them change based on the alcohol. Like if you serve alcohol,

it's almost something like this in Colorado. The reason this is important is because people not knowing this, when that child was dancing on stage and taking his clothes off and it was stripping, we talked about this years ago,

people are like, no, no, he's just removing an upper layer of clothing because they're preying upon the ignorance of the average person doesn't realize that's actually most strip clubs. I'm glad you brought this up because recently I saw that girl, Nala Ray, with the red hair that left. Only fans. Only fans for God. And while I heard you say that, you know, this is good that we're kind of getting away from debaucherous ideals and going more towards, I don't know, faith-based stuff. But I know what the back end of OnlyFans looks like because when I was basically left almost destitute, somebody was like, why don't you represent OnlyFans girls?

And I was like, well, I've never even been on it, so I don't even know. You know, so show me how it works. And I saw the back end, somebody that makes, you know, 200 grand a month. And she's like, yeah, I just hire chatters. They they're the actual girl is 10 steps removed from it. She gets to take the pictures and la la. But then there's somebody I was on the back end and I saw the messages that the chatters have to deal with. I mean, they're humiliating. They're gross. You think about that?

The men that are cheating on their wives, they talk about how they're cheating. I'm like, if I had to be a chatter, the toxicity that it would bring to my life, like it would be devastating for me. And I just had two hours of that. This should be illegal.

Well, and so I, I, I spoke out about doll. And I said, because she painted this picture as though, you know, she, she doesn't have, she didn't talk about the chatters and all that stuff. And she also said that, oh, well, this is how I make money. Now I go live on Tik TOK and I talk about God and I'm, I'm very modest, uh, addressed and this is how I make my money.

Now, what that message is saying to somebody that maybe wants to leave OF is, yeah, you can absolutely be a content creator and get attention and do it this way. And you're going to be able to make money. The reality is that that girl, Nala Ray, has not gone live on TikTok in four months. So how can she say that that's how she makes money now? That's a lie. You don't have to lie if you want to get people to go to God. So you have on OnlyFans, and I think everybody realizes this or a lot of people do, you're not talking to the woman. You're talking to staff and it's often guys. I think that should

be fraud. It is. It's fraudulent. You are saying, hey, give me money. You can talk to me. But then they're like, okay, talk to this guy. Yeah. You're catfishing basically. Yeah. Yeah. That should be illegal. And why wouldn't you want to expose that when you supposedly left for God? Is it because in case you go back to it, you don't want all your customers to know that you were defrauding them? I don't know what the motivation is, but it's like, you don't, and I always say this to people that want to be content creators. It's like, just be honest, be yourself, accept like your faults. Remember 8 Mile and Eminem? Eminem when he disses himself? Yeah, he's like, of course I live in a trailer with my mom.

I mean, that's how you should be. You should just be authentic because then nobody can come back and call you a liar or whatever. But it's like, you know, I always question influencers that package a story so perfectly that it seems and then you find out why it's disingenuous. And there are people that can get damaged from stuff like that. package a story so perfectly that it seems and then you find out why it's disingenuous and and there are people that can get damaged from stuff like that like i was telling you earlier the parents of her and all that that she disparaged so anyway all right jimmy says can you reach out

to aj from the y files to get on your show also shout out to rise with roberto jr you know i've been drinking so much appalachian nights i'm gonna get some rise with roberto jr it's also very very good and i miss it it's uh it's bright it's got a little bit more caffeine i guess because it's a lighter roast all right jason dixon says call that fallout phone number from the tv show then text them it's a real number they will even send you a v card for your phone it's hilarious also promote the discord become a member at tim guest.com and hang out in the discord because there are people there and they do shows the discord is so active it's wild they're always doing something i feel like they have a whole like other culture i feel like i'm a boomer i need to get in on the discord stuff oh i'm afraid of our discord i've done a couple things where i've been on and like i i am i'm just such a boomer i don't know how to

navigate it but they're cool there's just so many things but i i actually want to get in on it because i feel like it'd be fun. Cain Abel says if they are voicing their support for Hamas, therefore supporting Hamas, wouldn't that fall into the category for supporting terrorism? Yes, I certainly think it's dangerous territory if a bunch of dumb college kids are chanting that stuff and you decide to start arresting them. I certainly think the line would be the woman who screamed that she was Hamas. At that point, it's like, okay, so be it. Now there's going to be an investigation into any criminal activity. And if that criminal activity advanced any of Hamas's goals, and if it does, I feel like you have no choice but to charge them as if they were Hamas. Because then what? When actual Hamas shows up, you're like, well, you

know, we can't charge them because we didn't charge them. It's like- Slippery slope. If someone swears their allegiance to Hamas, it's like, and Hamas is recognized

by the government as such, but I do believe it is dangerous. And shouldn't we treat that as- And have murdered civilians, and yeah. Yeah, shouldn't we treat that as serious? Like, that's one of the other issues

is like, she can scream that, become a viral moment. Somebody out there is like, yeah, nice one. But like- Yeah, people go, I think we should treat it seriously if you're swearing if you're publicly being like we're all

this terrorist organization like that's not a good look if there was some like white nationalist group that carried out a mass shooting right and then some protesters said that they were part of that group i mean how do you think that would be handled very differently differently the text vet says abbott did this because we have elections next week here in Texas. This was him trying to appeal to the pro-Israel voters. Instead, I expect many more blue votes will come out. Interesting. Very interesting.

Alright, we'll grab some more. Shake and Bake says, YouTube is preventing me from posting my message, so I wrote this one to tell you about censorship. Very interesting. Well, okay. Sorry to hear about that. YouTube is stupid.

We will grab some more. Here's a good one. William Montgrain says, please pray for Israel and Gaza. Amen. Yeah, we want peace. Absolutely. All right.

GSO59 says, oh, sure, because 18 to 25-year-olds are just kids and don't know any better. when they claim they themselves are terrorists. They can't be held responsible for themselves. No, I agree. If it just depends on what they do, simply saying it, I don't think it's enough to do anything. But if they actually do something illegal, then it's advancing the goals of a terrorist organization.

I don't see why we would ignore that. Yeah, I mean, how is that usually had a like, you'll have rappers saying that they're a member of a gang, but then they're not prosecuted because they go, oh, well, like they're just being artistic. They haven't said they participated in a specific crime. They weren't threatening to. Yeah.

I mean, it would be like if Columbia would be like, oh, we've identified that student. We're going to be investigating this maybe. But like there's not really anything you could do at this point. I just think generally it is something that, like saying we are Hamas or we are whatever organization that is recognized as a terrorist group shouldn't be something that our youth develops

as like a catchy slogan. I think that's bad. And it's concerning that they're like so casually being like, no problem. I'm ISIS. Yeah. Some people don't even know that being 18 means that you're a legal adult. So I think they're encouraged not to.

I mean, yeah. When I manage the kids, they're like, oh yeah, we need somebody to be here, an adult to be here when we turn on the, you know,

electricity. And I'm like, you guys are all over 18. You are an adult. Mike Spencer says Jewish people are 0.2% of the world population. Why are they 95% of the news? Why they have their own word for discrimination? Am I allowed to say this?

I would love to break this down for you first. There are many words for small percentage of the population. Trans people, I think, make up what probably 0.2 or less, actually, of the world's population, and they have the word transphobia. Gay people make up substantially a small percentage of the world's population, and they have their own word as well, homophobia. There are a lot of groups

that have words that describe calling out that particular group. The 95% of the news thing, ooh, this one's my favorite. There are these memes people post where it's a bunch of people who work in media and they put stars of the news thing, oh, this one's my favorite. There are these memes people post where it's a bunch of people who work in media and they put stars of Davids on their head. And the first thing I'll say is, yes, it is a fact that John Stewart pointed this out exceptionally. There are a lot of people who are Jewish who work in media. And when, if someone

points that out and they're called anti-Semitic for saying it, all that does is make things worse because people can plainly see there are a lot of people in media in Hollywood, for instance, who are Jewish to the point where people in Hollywood make jokes about how Jewish it is. That being said, there was one, a lot of these are fake. One had Luke Rutkowski on it with the Star of David. And I'm dead serious. These people, they post these things, and they're just screwing with you because the core element of their argument is, quote unquote, Jewish privilege, which means literally nothing to me. I do not care your religion. I do not care your ethnic background. I care about if you're doing work and you're doing

good things, you're doing bad things. So on this show, for instance, people have complained that like 20% of the guests are Jewish. And they're like, why is that so high, Tim? And I'm like, because they're conservative. Like, that's it, because conservatives want to come on the show. And I'm like, but also think about the messaging for many of these people, America first, not wanting to fund wars overseas. I'm like, what do you disagree with? And why does the fact that they're Jewish matter at all? It's the weirdest thing. I'm just, I literally, I think it's weird that you have these identitarians, be it anti-white or anti-Jewish. They basically, the argument is privilege of a specific group. There's too many people running the banks. There's too many people in media. And I'm like, you know if you took

everything they said and replaced Jewish with white, you'd get woke activism. Identically. Also, I mean, are they suggesting that you are intentionally selecting your guests

on the basis of whether they're Jewish? Yes. Okay. And the funny thing is Cassandra McDonald is the one who does all of the booking

and she's tweeting up a storm critical of Israel nonstop. And then they're like, Cassandra, what are you doing? I mean. Right.

Yeah, I don't care for the privilege argument. Like there are too many white people who are doing this, who are doing that. The funny thing is when Ye came on the show and he was saying who is they and all that stuff. On that show, we pulled up the CEOs of all these big banks and they're all Irish guys. Hold on. That is extremely, that is extremely bigoted. Got anything to say for your people over there? What's the word for being bigoted towards Irish people? Probably like hyperphobia or something.

That is, no, that is extremely, that is extremely offensive. And I would appreciate it if you didn't smear my people in that way. Thank you. Yeah. And the funny thing to me about the anti-Israel, like staunchly, like Zionist, you're a Zionist, you're, you know, what do they call you, a Goyne stuff? It's, yeah, it's just like the argument that the U.S. is being secretly controlled by Israel. And I'm like, guys, it's not complicated. The U.S. controls Israel.

It's not the other way around. The U.S. is engaging in military intervention in Syria, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Ukraine. We are doing these things not because one tiny nation, Israel, is telling us. We are funding Israel because it's advancing our interests and our goals. But there are people who are absolutely convinced it's the other way around. And I'm like, oh, boy. That would basically negate all of the other military operations the u.s is engaged and it makes makes makes a little sense but um hey this isn't to say

you're not allowed to criticize israel in fact i encourage people to criticize military operations i think war is bad but let's uh let's get back to the super chats you should be able to criticize anything if we're doing it during the bounds of the law right yeah well i mean you you can criticize anything they're just bad people want to censor you all right project editin says lord spoon anon's color changing laptop lid is distracting af who is he talking about does someone have a color changing laptop lid oh is he is that what he called me yes okay because i don't answer to that name so he can keep looking at it. Also, it's blowing my mind that this makes total sense.

Laptop lid. I've never thought about that before. I've never thought of it being a lid. It's a screen. Yeah, screen. Screen is what I would think. That's funny. But you do use it to close your laptop.

By the way, my Amazon account, I was an Amazon influencer. And a couple days after I went on your show, and I was talking about the OnlyF like a couple days after I went on your show, and I was talking about the OnlyFans girl, my account got terminated. And I don't know why, really. And that's the thing about all of these big tech companies. Like if you get shut down, and you're like, please explain to me. They're like, no, we won't. We have all of your data, and we can hold you hostage forever. I sent an email to Andy Jassy. He's the new CEO, and I'm going to start tweeting at him if they don't help me out.

But I obviously didn't. They said it was malware. So it could be people. I didn't post malware links, but it could be people that don't like me, my opinions on the internet or whatever that they can put your link. Yeah, you don't know. Or maybe I made a mistake. Who knows?

It's a mystery. I kind of doubt it, but you know. It's a whole revenue stream that is now gone. And so that's why it's just, it's hard to be a creator these days, but everybody wants to do it. All right. Marion Holtzman says, it's up to parents to censor their kids' access to the internet, not the government's job.

The government will use this to censor your channel too. Why can't you see this? SMFH. They won't use this to censor my channel. National security letters already exist. They've already censored my channel, as in YouTube has. This bill has no impact on that.

This is what I don't understand, but I do appreciate the super chat. What I don't understand is why we have this, this TikTok divestment bill, which literally doesn't ban TikTok, even though everyone calls it that. And I get it's the colloquial name. Yeah, it would result in it being banned from US services, but it would still be allowed to exist and operate in the US. Just the servers would have to be

hosted overseas. And you'd have to download or you'd have to go to TikTok.us to use it. So imagine everyone saying, Oh, no, they banned TikTok. So I'm going to open up my browser and go to TikTok. Yeah, it's not banned. It's just a different it's a foreign server. They're not saying you can't access the United States. They're not IP banning it. None of that. It would still literally just go to the website. It's there. Really? Yeah. So what the bill would do is it would require US services not to work with TikTok. So that's it. So that means TikTok.tv or whatever, Tuvalu, and you'd still be able to go to the website. Your account would still exist

everyone would just have to use a website from now on and that's not even hard you can create a shortcut for your phone so the app basically exists it's the weirdest thing but more importantly for the longest time it was in this country the belief that it should be illegal to allow children into a porn store but for some reason reason, because of the internet, the argument now is, no, no, no. It's the parent's job. If a kid wanders into an adult bookstore, that's the parent's fault. The guy working that store should allow the child in. What? No!

As if we're just a, as if we're such a pro-family society that we delegate everything to the family and to parents. We have social safety nets for basically everything to the point where we've totally usurped the role of the family. But then when people say,

hey, it's actually kind of difficult to prevent my child from being brainwashed by these extremely well-funded social media algorithms. Can the government do something? We go, well, isn't that your job? There's a cartoon for you. It's CCP guys wearing like communist clothes on the street corner, like looking around.

And a kid walks up and they're like, hey kid, hey kid, wanna be a communist? communist and then there's a guy he's like i think we should stop allowing them to do this hey hey hey it's up to the parents to the parents yeah exactly this guy's luring kids into an alley and giving them the little red book or whatever yeah yeah no it's so disturbing it's so disturbing right like here's the thing it is also a parent's job to make sure that their child doesn't eat poison. But we still have regulations to prevent food distributors from creating poisonous foods. Look at that.

Look at that. Parents having a responsibility does not mean we don't also need some kind of social failsafe. Well, the carrot on the stick is fame. And we're living in a society that has a deep fame addiction and kids do not feel validated if they do not get the likes or the views and it's creating like little baby narcissists sociopaths i think that that grow up to be extremely insecure and that's why i think that people need if you're going to be an influencer if you're going to be a content creator you can't be driven just by your ego you have have to at least stand for something, you know, and but when you

stand for something, you have to be prepared that people are going to try to shut you up. All right, Ian Birch, Birch. I'm pronouncing it wrong. Birch says, Hi, Tim and crew. Our cat Seamus passed about a week ago after 15 great years. I'm glad to hear you mentioned Seamus and what he's got going on as it reminds me of our cat. Also, hi Seamus, glad to see you're back. The new studio must have spoons. Thank you so much.

I haven't seen any spoons here. Except for the last part. Except for the last part. Well, we have plastic spoons here. I'm being insulted. No, actually, we have really nice, you know, stylish spoons. You do?

Yeah. Where are those at? And we got them. They're all engraved too it says yeah where those at do not take Seamus do not remove at your spoon stealer I wouldn't do that I would not do that I would never do that you know me I would never do that you know me you know I wouldn't do that you know me it was funny because uh do that last last last night after the show Seamus the cat's walking up and I said something like, Seamus.

And then I hear Seamus just walking in and saying something like, I'm going to put that cat down. I would never say that. You know me. I would never say something like that. I said, you shouldn't have picked him up. And I was like, why am I holding him?

Getting hair everywhere. Two Seamuses were looking at each other. And then we locked eyes and I was like, he's not so bad. Well, the first and I was like, why am I holding him? Getting hair everywhere. Two Seamus's were looking at each other. They're both deeply confused. And then we locked eyes, and I was like, he's not so bad. Well, the first time I walked in, I was like, two Seamus's? I was like, who's who? And then we got into a fight and rolled around, and then you couldn't tell who was who.

I was like, Tim, it's him. It's him. Well, at first, it was because Seamus Coughlin was scratching the back of my couch. He's known to do that. He's a little bit feral. He's not, like, used to being in houses, especially nice houses. All right, everybody,

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It's been really fun. My name is Seamus Coughlin. I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. If you want to go over there, check out my video. We're going to be releasing one tomorrow. I've been very happy with the content lately. I think we've been making some funny stuff. So if you guys enjoyed what I had to say, you enjoy the cartoons, please go over to freedomtunes.com, become a member. You'll get a bunch, a bunch, a bunch

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hannaclaire.b and I'm on Twitter at hcbrimelow. Bye, Serge. Bye-bye, y'all. Allergies suck. Let's get to that after show. We'll see you all over at timcast.com in about a minute. Allergies suck. Let's get to that after show. We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute. Thanks for hanging out. you