Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1012 Arizona Indicts Trump Lawyers For Election Interference As 2024 Ramps Up w/Lectern Guy

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Seamus, & Serge are joined by Adam Johnson aka Lectern Guy to discuss Arizona indicting allies of Trump for 2020 election interference, SCOTUS hearing arguments over Presidential I...mmunity, Emory University erupting in chaos as police shut down a pro Palestine protest, and a viral video of an NYC construction worker saying that support for Trump in NYC is growing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So, of course, the anti-Israel protests are ongoing, expanding, more mass arrests, more videos of people storming into other schools because it is getting bigger. And it's obvious, the more media attention it gets, the more media attention it will get, the more young people learn about it, the more bored people want to do something, and so they join in. And that's why there's that viral video of the young woman saying, I have no idea why we're protesting, because many of them don't. Of course, many of them do. But, you know, yeah, many of them don't. It's interesting to see many celebrities now coming out wholeheartedly calling these protests anti-Semitic. And I just I just find it absolutely DEI stuff into anti-Israel. And the deep state can't control it. So, of course, they want to get rid of TikTok.
Starting point is 00:00:54 We'll talk about that. But I think the bigger story right now has to do more individuals, the electors, the alternate slate or fake electors, as Arizona is calling them, as well as Trump's lawyers once again, including Jenna Ellis. Oh, boy. You know, when she pleaded guilty and threw Trump under the bus, many people were upset because they donated to her thinking she was going to fight back. But then she went on TV.
Starting point is 00:01:22 She cried in court and said, I'm so sorry. Had I known what Trump was doing, et cetera, et cetera. Now then she went on TV. She cried in court and said, I'm so sorry. Had I known what Trump was doing, et cetera, et cetera. Now she's being charged again. It's going to be interesting because she's confessed to doing it. So I wonder how Arizona will handle this. And I certainly think, you know, look, if you are going to throw Trump under the bus and and you think that by taking that path, you will save yourself. They have made it patently clear. They will indict you again. They will come after you.
Starting point is 00:01:49 And pleading has done nothing for her. She should have fought back. So we'll talk about that plus much, much more. Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and buy coffee. Appalachian Nights is everybody's favorite, but Rise with Roberto Jr., of course, is a close second. And then we have Stand Your Grounds.
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Starting point is 00:03:35 Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and much, much more is the lectern guy. Hey, Tim. Thanks for having me on. Is that your name now? You know, I'm getting used to it. I kind of like it. What's your real name and who are you? My real name is Adam Johnson. I'm a guy. You might have recognized me from terrorist film, January 6th. Been promoted a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I am the former speaker of the house. I am a husband, a father of five kids who are watching. I said I would say hi. Hi, guys. Does the law enforcement get mad that you say things like that? I don't care. But those are the rules, right? If you physically stand in a building, just like in the 1600s, it makes you, you get the title. According to some people, I was actually king of the world. Oh, wow. Scott Adams says this, that he who holds the lectern holds the power. And Jacob Chansley, was he the president of the Senate?
Starting point is 00:04:24 We had a, I think so. I think that's how that works. Wow. Yeah. Okay, so you're famously, or infamously, the guy who was carrying the lectern. And we've had you on several times before, so thanks for hanging out. It should be fun. Yeah, it's going to be a good time.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Seamus is back. I'm Seamus Coghlan. I make cartoons. You may have seen them at a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. If not, please go over there, check them out. We just released a cartoon today about the absurdity of trans children and the fact that these people are grooming innocent kids into this stuff. It's a video I think you guys will enjoy. And we also released a really funny video last week. We'll release a really funny video next week, every single Thursday. He hopes it'll be funny. I mean, I hope it'll be funny. You guys will decide if it's funny or not. You guys should go and judge. Just check it out. Go there and judge me. If you don't think it's funny,
Starting point is 00:05:08 leave a comment. It is the worst video I have ever seen, and I hate you. You can go do that. Sheamus is the youngest child, so he really needs you to put the hate comments on. Exactly. I need the attention. And if you like what I'm doing, go to freedomtunes.com, become a member. You'll get one of the many behind-the-scenes videos we have and cartoons
Starting point is 00:05:24 up there that only people who are supporting the show financially are able to see, and you'll get one of the many behind the scenes videos we have and cartoons up there that only people who are supporting the show financially are able to see. And you'll also get to watch the podcast that I create or listen to the podcast that I create with the other crew members who I make the cartoon with. That's awesome. Well, I'm Hannah Cleverimlo. I'm a writer for SCNR, that's Scanner News. I'm really grateful to be a part of that news team. You should check out all of our work. We've got really amazing writers, including Chris Burtman, Cassandra McDonald, Adrian Norman, Chris Carr. I'm really, really grateful that I get to work with them every single day. Serge is here.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Yes, I am. Ready when you want to. Yeah, there's also another story. Harvey Weinstein's conviction was overturned. Yeah. And apparently he cried when he found out. So this is kind of a funny story. But if we get into it, here we go. Let's just jump into the first story. We have this from Politico.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Arizona grand jury indicts Meadows, Giuliani and other Trump allies for 2020 election interference. The former president is listed as an unindicted co-conspirator, which means I assume they'll probably indict him at some point. So several of the names are actually redacted. And according to Politico, based on how they describe the individuals, it's fairly obvious who these people actually are. They say the only defendants whose names are visible in the version of the indictment released by the Arizona AG are the 11 Republicans who falsely posed as the state's presidential electors despite Joe Biden's narrow victory there. Among them, former Arizona GOP Chairman
Starting point is 00:06:44 Kelly Ward, state senators Jake Hoffman, Anthony Kern, Arizona's RNC committeeman Tyler Bauer, Arizona Attorney General Chris Mays, a Democrat, has been helming the aggressive investigation, though she initially appeared to be focused primarily on the false electors. In recent months, it became clear the scope of the probe was broader than previously understood and swept up prominent Trump allies at the national level. They go on to mention the names of the seven defendants, including Meadows, Giuliani, and Epstein are redacted, but the document makes clear who they are by describing their roles. Others include attorneys John Eastman, Jenna Ellis, and Christina Bob, as well as Trump 2020 campaign operative Mike Roman. So I just want to point something out too, as they say, falsely posed. This actually was a large component of the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court oral arguments
Starting point is 00:07:29 today because Trump's lawyers said that's not that's not correct. They're not falsely posing. There is already precedent in numerous cases, even the Supreme Court of states sending alternate electors. There's even a video going viral of Van Jones mentioning that in 1876, there were many states that had alternate states, slates of electors. And famously, between Richard Nixon and JFK, Hawaii sent uncertified electors, which Nixon chose to count. So I suppose they're wanting to have their cake and eat it too.
Starting point is 00:07:58 The important thing to understand is Politico, when they write this, this is the trick. This is how they manipulate you. Framing it as though it is a foregone conclusion that falsely posing as an elector, they're asserting something is the assumption is it was already a crime and illegal what they did. Now let's figure if they did it instead of arguing whether or not you are allowed to send alternate electors or the reality is I don't think they even necessarily sent. I think they had a group of people who said they were prepared to be the sworn electors for Trump in the event of a court victory, which is what you have to do to challenge an election. And now they're being criminally charged for it because my friends,
Starting point is 00:08:39 the Rubicon has been crossed by the Democrats some time ago. Donald Trump's court case in New York. Need I say it again? It's a misdemeanor that's beyond the statute of limitations. They've upgraded to a felony that they're arguing is election interference, but not a single person can say what the crime was because their argument is the crime is that there was a conspiracy between Trump, Michael Cohen, and what was his name? David Pecker, is that his name? Yes. They said they conspired to suppress negative information to influence the election, which, of course, is completely legal and not
Starting point is 00:09:10 a conspiracy because it is completely legal. I don't know what to tell you when we're at a point where you have basically the entire state of New York pretending to file criminal charges. I'll just stress this. Trump being threatened and forced to attend this trial is no different than a group of clowns putting on clown costumes and saying it's time to go to clown jail. There's no statutory law and there's no legal authority they have
Starting point is 00:09:37 to demand this of Trump. There is no criminal statute for which Trump is actually being charged. I honestly have no idea what's going on. And to make it worse, Trump didn't go to the Supreme Court or arguments. He went to New York and complained about it. I'm disappointed, but I get it. The argument they say is that Trump didn't want it to appear that he was making the Supreme
Starting point is 00:09:56 Court case about him. He wanted it to be separate from him so that it would be about the country. And I get it. I can respect that because we were saying the other day, I was like, Trump should be there and he should say, you know, I'm going to stand up here. I'm going to stand here to defend the office of the presidency. The concern from his legal team, I suppose, was if Trump does go there, it becomes a question about Trump's actions and not a question about the office of the presidency. So he wanted it to be essentially
Starting point is 00:10:20 standalone. But here we are. I want to add this before I just kick it off. Jenna Ellis really offended people when she said she was going to fight these charges in Georgia, raised a ton of money, and then pleaded guilty, cried in court and on TV and said, if only she had known, oh, she regrets it. She didn't know what was going on. Well, there's one thing about confessing to doing something and pleading guilty to on TV is that now with Arizona charging her, that's it. Not only will she likely raise not a single cent, maybe one penny, maybe maybe she'll have some friends who will give her money. But she's she's burned her goodwill. She burned the bridges with Trump and his base.
Starting point is 00:11:00 And now she's being actively targeted still by the Democrats. And they will likely only turn the heat up. Only now she has nothing to offer them. So I imagine she goes to prison. I don't see a path out for her. Pleading guilty does nothing for her. She already pleaded guilty in Arizona. So I'm sorry, in Georgia, they got that.
Starting point is 00:11:16 She's not going to raise money from anybody else. What's she going to do? Go to Arizona and be like, well, you know, I went on TV and said, yeah, I did it. I didn't. Good luck. The victories they go after for these people who support Trump, especially with Jay Sixers, Well, you know, I went on TV and said, yeah, I did it. I didn't. Good luck. The victories they go after for these people who support Trump, especially with Jay Sixers, is they want you to bend the knee and say, Trump put me here.
Starting point is 00:11:33 This is my fault. I know when the proffers that I went to, 12, 13 hours worth, that was the goal the entire time. With Jenna Ellis, she bent the knee. She bent the knee. She said the words, but now she's all used up. She played the game thinking she was going to get out of it. They're not going to stop. If you are affiliated with Trump, they will continue to come after you again and again.
Starting point is 00:11:49 They're not actually going against, like, these aren't charges, right? This is not real. Yeah. The charge is you supported Trump and you went against us. She's a lawyer. What did she do? She was asked by a U.S. citizen to represent him by doing legal services. And she did.
Starting point is 00:12:07 And that's not a crime. And they charged her for it. Ken Chesborough, who also pled guilty in Georgia, is one of the, I think he's co-conspirator number five or something. Unindicted, though, right? Unindicted. And so it's this thing. They're like, he pled guilty.
Starting point is 00:12:19 He is still being implicated in something. I don't know. I can't speak to the motivations of why you would plead guilty in any of these cases. I could understand that there's a lot of financial and social pressure to do that. On the other hand, you know, it doesn't protect you from anything else. And especially with the fervor
Starting point is 00:12:35 with which they're approaching, they being a larger left-wing movement in the country to convict Trump. I mean, this came out the day that we had Supreme Court arguments. And I know we might talk about that later. But it's anything to try and make Trump look bad because inevitably he's going to be the Republican nominee. And there is hysteria about preventing him from getting in the White House. I mean, it's the same field of people that are
Starting point is 00:13:00 running these polls that are saying, well, RFK is taking votes away from Trump when actually they're also praising his entire, RFK's entire family for being like, he should drop out of the race. He's making it more difficult. Like they just want anything to keep Trump out. And all of this feels like a waste of taxpayer dollars to me, to be honest. I can't imagine being in any of these states,
Starting point is 00:13:20 especially if you live in a city that has a serious crime problem, being like, thanks guys, this is what you're investigating? I don't think they have any concern wasting taxpayer dollars. No, hold on a second. I think we're missing something, right? If we want to argue, and I think there's at least some room for this form of analysis, that the purpose of a system is what it does.
Starting point is 00:13:38 This is not a waste of taxpayer money. This is actually the kind of stuff that they take your money to do to continue to empower themselves. They're scared. They know that if Trump gets reelected, they're going to be punished for trying to use the system against the people and subverting their will, even though they claim we live in a democracy, even though they claim that needs to be respected, even though they claim they want free and fair elections. They went after the democratically elected president. They did not let an authentic transfer of power take place because the entire time he was in office, they were running investigations, pulling all sorts of shenanigans to try to
Starting point is 00:14:11 bring him down, impeach him, bring him out of office. And despite all of the investigation and the amount of time that they spent looking into him, which we know at least goes back to the time when he was running for office because the Obama administration was spying on him. And that did turn out to be true, no matter how much the media wanted to mock him for it. And after all of that, after the degree to which every single inch of this man's entire life has been combed over, they have to bring him up on these nonsense charges. They have to bring him up on these nonsense charges. And we all know why. We all know why. It's because the only law that he broke is the implicit law. Don't challenge the deep state.
Starting point is 00:14:42 It's not a law that's formalized or written down or codified. But when we see the way they're handling Trump and the people he surrounded himself with, it is very clear that it's one of the highest rules in this country. You know what I love? It's that back in like the 2016 cycle, the deep state guys got together and they were like, Trump's four star hand. Release the tape of him saying, grab him by the pussy. He's done. And then they release it and nothing happens. And they're like, what's going on? Why isn't he losing?
Starting point is 00:15:08 And it's like, sir, he's become more popular. It's like, oh, so they have to keep ramping it up. They've come to the point now where everything that they thought would actually stop him didn't. So they're just making things up now. And they're like, he had a marketing team that wanted to make him look good in the press. So he cheated. Arrest him, I guess. That crazy guy.
Starting point is 00:15:30 He ran a campaign. Isn't it incredible that he ran a campaign? That he tried to make deals with journalistic outlets to publish stories? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Here's the best part. David Pecker testified that Trump actually wasn't even involved in that. Yeah. It was him and Michael Cohen working together and trump was unaware and that when that when when
Starting point is 00:15:48 michael cohen brought up payment to him trump had no idea what was going what he was talking about which is like ben trump's legal team's position the whole time but also because no democratic politician has ever had this sort of catch and kill kill agreement with that publication there's no way a left-leaning politician has ever gone to i don't know the left-leaning mainstream media and been like hey don't run bad stories about me that would never happen right oh wait it probably happens all the time it's just that trump's not allowed to do it well look i i keep bringing this up but time magazine literally acknowledged that the media and all of corporate america came together they coalesced and they decided that they were going to prevent donald trump getting elected. But they said that they were fortifying the election rather than
Starting point is 00:16:28 stealing it. And so they were comfortable admitting that publicly. But we all know what they're saying actually means. Even if you don't want to take the interpretation I take, it's really, really obvious that what they did was much larger than anything they're accusing Trump of doing here, right? Him, his lawyer, his lawyer talking to a publisher saying he'll make a deal with him to not publish certain stories doesn't even begin to approach the territory of what they did. And that they acknowledge that they did when all of the large media outlets and social media outlets and even intelligence officials came together to kill a story because it made Joe Biden look bad. Yeah. Well, unfortunately, Republicans don't do anything. That's right.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Well, there is something they do. Mike Johnson goes to Columbia and threatens to pull federal funding and demands that Joe Biden bring in the National Guard because a bunch of people are protesting Israel. Well, that's one thing they're upset about. I would love to send the National Guard to the border, though. That would be cool. Isn't that funny? send the National Guard to the border, though. That would be cool. Isn't that funny? Send the National Guard and get them rolling directions. Dude, look, I got to tell you, it's very obvious that—
Starting point is 00:17:30 Let us send the protesters to the border. They'll establish an encampment, and then maybe we'll do something about it. When they ousted McCarthy, and no one could figure out who was going to be Speaker, and then it was Mike Johnson, everyone's like, who's this guy? And then the deep state said, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Speaker, congratulations. Right this way, we're going to give you the confidential briefing. And then they brought him into a room, closed the door, the door popped right back open. He walked out and said, I've completely changed all of my positions.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Wow. And now he's in favor of Faisal Warren. He's in favor of foreign spending. He's in favor of Ukraine, Israel, all these things. It's almost like they brought him to a back room, beat him up a little bit, and then kicked him out and said, you know what happens next. No, I think it was the battle of ideas.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I think they had a really spirited conversation about it. And they shook hands at the end. They said, see you later, man. He went, I agree with that after the conversation was over. You make some great points. No, I mean, there are a lot of Republicans who are in Congress right now
Starting point is 00:18:24 who do support sending money overseas. I think we mean, there are a lot of Republicans who are in Congress right now who do support sending money overseas. I think we forget because there are a vocal faction of Republicans who say like, hey, let's put America first. Let's focus here. But, you know, you saw Tom Taylor from North Carolina, the senator from North Carolina, attack Marjorie Taylor Greene this week, saying that she's like a terrible leader and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Meanwhile, he's like, it's absolutely imperative that we send money to Ukraine. Like, do you actually think she's bad? Or are you just mad that we're not that she's against sending money abroad? What is it here? And again, are you a Republican that reflects my values? Or are you just a Republican who has a completely different worldview? Are we only on, you know, do you only have the same label as Marjorie Taylor Greene sort of ceremonially? Well, I think at this point, it's clear that it's just a ceremonious label. There's a massive civil war. And I would say in both parties, I alluded to this last night when talking about the Israel-Palestine issue. I think that's much more of an establishment anti-establishment question than it is a Republican or Democrat question, right or left. And we're seeing that increasingly. I think that's also
Starting point is 00:19:20 the case with the COVID lockdowns. I think that's been the case with certain conversations surrounding vaccines, certain conversations with other things that's been the case with certain conversations surrounding vaccines, certain conversations with other things that people in the mainstream have considered to be conspiracy theory. Right. So MTG might, you know, be a Republican and so might some of these other people. But in reality, they have absolutely nothing in common. I mean, they really have nothing in common.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I just want to add real quick, just this side note, because someone super chatted saying she wasn't found guilty. Jenna Ellis becomes latest Trump lawyer to plead guilty over efforts to overturn Georgia's election. So that happened. And someone said it. You plead guilty. She wasn't even found guilty. She just said, I'm guilty.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Right, right, right. So this is the issue. Some people are saying, but it was a deferment like something else. Who cares? She got, what, like five years of probation or something? Is that what she got? Probably. I think it's something like that.
Starting point is 00:20:06 She was deported. She was deported to the judge. She's a forced defendant case. Racketeering, violation of the public, both felonies. I think she got sentenced to probation or something like that. But that's not my point. My point is she has now confessed. She has publicly confessed to having done whatever they accused her of doing. And at
Starting point is 00:20:26 the time when this happened, what we were saying, that's all they wanted. They don't care if she goes to jail. She's a nobody. They want her to say, yes, Trump did it. I'm so sorry. So they can pin it on Trump. But now, hilariously, after she has publicly admitted she did everything they claimed, Arizona is going after her for the same thing. what's she gonna do now say no what i already i already did everything you wanted me to do dude it's uh it's it's it's like in the movies when the guy gets involved with the mob one time and he like you know takes a loan out and then he's like they're like you we own you forever now like no matter what you do you can never pay him back it's always you're you're you're owned that's it she she went to the
Starting point is 00:21:05 deep state and said okay you win i'll give you everything it's almost like you know if you're walking down the street and you look like an easy target the guy who's going to rob somebody he's not going to go for the guy who looks angry and ready to fight he's going to go for the person who looks scared and just gives in yeah that's right i'm not giving advice on what you do in these kind of situations but she immediately got on her knee and said, I will do anything you say. And they say, we own you forever now. Yes. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Well, I mean, look, they're not looking for justice. They're trying to make examples out of people. You don't make an example out of somebody by letting them go. What concerns me about that story, to talk about the D-State being involved, the elections and everything, Time Magazine's articles, all of these things are true,
Starting point is 00:21:40 but I think they've always been true. I think there's always been interference, intelligence daisies in our elections. What concerns me about that story is we're going after attorneys now, attorneys who represent people who represent people who are against the state, right? That's what concerns me the most. I know my attorneys had death threats. They were calling for their law degree licenses to be revoked. Chris Cuomo had on one of them, and Chris Cuomo said to them, why would you defend this person? I know he has a
Starting point is 00:22:05 right to an attorney, but why does he deserve you? You're a good attorney. The impression is that people shouldn't be defended by good attorneys. Only the bad ones. Yes. Well, let's jump to this next case. The other big news today was the Supreme Court hearing. And the funny thing is, you know, I think Trump won outright, just just like instantly and it was kind of weird i think it was katanji brown jackson who outright said presidents fear criminal prosecution after impeachment and then trump's lawyer was like i agree he's like true that's that was the whole point of this thank you and so it just it just felt totally fake in fact there was one question i don't i don't remember who it was i I think it was Kavanaugh. He said something like, it actually might have been Kagan.
Starting point is 00:22:47 I don't know. Someone asked, one of the justices, aren't there already things that Congress, aren't there already actions the president could take or things related to the executive office that Congress cannot regulate? And the government's lawyers were like, yes. Yeah. Like, okay, isn't that immunity? Like, you cannot tell a president he can't do these things.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Like, he is immune from Congress passing laws about what he can or can't do. That's already there. So it seems like this is just a waste of time. And I think the issue at hand was actually, may have been Kavanaugh saying that, I'll paraphrase, the lower court is a bunch of morons. They need to actually ask the question of whether Trump's actions were part of his official duties or not. Of course, immunity exists for presidential actions. The question is, what qualifies as a presidential action?
Starting point is 00:23:36 And this is where things get really crazy. The fact that this has never been answered before in the several hundred, you know, a couple hundred years of American history. It's kind of nuts. So you get this ridiculous question from, I think it was Sotomayor, saying, what if the president ordered the assassination of his political rival? Is that an official action? And what the Trump's lawyer said is, well, it's a hypothetical. I don't know, but it sounds like it is. Yes. And they're shocked like, Oh, that's an official action and he's immune from it. Yes. But it's also considered a high crime for what you would be impeached for. I don't think the liberal justices actually understand law or the arguments being presented or what official means. So when Trump's lawyers are like, he is immune, a president is immune
Starting point is 00:24:25 from prosecution based on their official official duties. They think the word official means good. Whereas what he's saying is any duties that are related to the politics of the office. So if Trump goes golfing while he's president and beats a child to death with the golf club, that has nothing to do with being president. But if as president, you get intelligence saying that an American citizen is about to do something like commit a murder or something, you sign off on that person being apprehended even with lethal force. Is that murder? So the question then becomes, if the president orders the assassination of his political rival, well, the question is, are you suggesting that with no intelligence and no legal basis, he just says, go kill a guy?
Starting point is 00:25:05 Because that's not official, an official duty. It could be construed as such. And this is where things get crazy. If and this is actually Trump's arguments. And this is this is why I think it's insane. This has never been answered. If a president orders the killing of American citizens like Barack Obama or killed Abdurrahman Al-Awlaki and Anwar Al-Awlaki. And so let me just pause real quick.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Barack Obama ordered a drone strike on a civilian restaurant in a country we are not at war with, Yemen, that killed an American citizen named Abdul Rahman Al-Awlaki. He was 16 years old. He was not a criminal. He did nothing wrong. And Obama ordered the strike that killed him. Anyway, we don't know why he did. And he's not been prosecuted for a murder. And this is the question at play. Do I think Barack Obama should be criminally prosecuted? Yes, but after he's impeached.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And you can be impeached afterwards. Obama's not president anymore. They should, in Congress, open an investigation and figure out why they did this. Under what authority did they bomb a civilian restaurant? But think about what this means. It means that Barack Obama could order Seamus to be killed on Fifth Avenue. Don't give him ideas. And you could not criminally prosecute him because the argument is it is of the executive branch to enforce law up to and including the armed forces, which includes lethal force.
Starting point is 00:26:20 So when the Supreme Court just says, what if you ordered the assassination of someone? It's like the president orders people assassinated all the time and we're not locking them up for it. I think you have to either accept that or, as Trump stated when he was leaving the court, their argument would leave the presidency as a ceremonial role with no power. Obama's drone strike specifically came up today, which I thought was interesting. And Sonia Sotomayor was like, well, but if the president's doing it because they're protecting us from terrorists, that's OK. Right. Like they one of the things that they had to keep coming back to was basically the liberal justice is I think it's pretty clear that they believe no matter what Trump does,
Starting point is 00:26:57 it is malintentioned. Right. Whether he's president or civilian or whatever, there is a belief that some people act honorably and we can put Obama on that list, but we cannot put Trump on this. That was definitely the impression I was getting, especially from the level of sort of hostility that Katonji Brown Jackson gave today. She at one point implied that if presidents have immunity, the, she didn't even imply it, she said the White House would become the center of criminality in America. You know, there's this idea that like, right. And the other guy was like, well, the assumption for the last 200 years is that it hasn't become that. So I don't know what you're saying. But it is really interesting. And Justice Neil Gorsuch was the one who said,
Starting point is 00:27:35 you know, this is actually law that we're making for the country. Like this is for history because the state often wants to point directly to things Trump did. But the concept of presidential immunity is what the court is ruling on. And so I find it really interesting. And it was it was over three hours of debate. And and Trump's attorneys opted not to offer a rebuttal, which I also found interesting. I don't know if that'll hurt them later, but there's a chance that they felt like by the time they had presented our written, the state had been really thoroughly refuted by all of the conservative just on the court, that it was sort of like, you guys don't really understand what the balance of presidential immunity is.
Starting point is 00:28:11 It's insane that this is even happening because the idea, in my opinion, is so patently obvious. The president is immune from criminal prosecution for his official duties to stress if for no reason, Obama, Trump, Biden, anybody went on to Fifth Avenue and just killed a guy, you'd be like, OK, that was a high crime. There would there would still have to be, I would imagine, an impeachment and criminal prosecution. But the challenge and the interesting thing about this argument that I didn't consider initially is what an official duty of the president is is actually fairly broad and
Starting point is 00:28:44 has to be protected even when it comes to killing people. And that's crazy. That being said, again, if any of the presidents walked down Fifth Avenue with a gun and just shot a guy, they'd probably just criminally prosecute him. I don't think there's a scenario. He'd be impeached.
Starting point is 00:28:56 He'd be convicted right away. There'd be an investigation. But the question is, ordering the assassination of someone, like the justices argued, they then argued, what if what if the president instructs the military to stage a coup? And Trump's lawyers are like, well, it's
Starting point is 00:29:10 a hypothetical, but it sounds like an official like, yes. And they're like staging a coup. What these people don't understand, because they're they're midwits or worse. There is no circumstance ever where a sitting president will stand up in front of the world and go, I hereby order a military coup to seize power and take over this country. Never going to happen. What will happen is a president will say, an armed group of terrorists have stormed into a building, so I'm hereby instructing the National Guard to quell the rebellion.
Starting point is 00:29:40 There will be some official justification behind it. And then, in the inverse, what happens if, let's say, you've got President A, a former president, and President B, a current president. They're in an election. And the former president has a bunch of military, former military guys storm into a building and take it over. And then the sitting president says, I'm instructing the military to go and take him out. Ah, but it turns out the former president won the election. Is that a coup or is it two warring factions who think they're legally right? The issue is it actually is quite crazy. The president does enjoy broad immunities. He has to. Otherwise, there is no commander in chief.
Starting point is 00:30:21 You would never order a law enforcement action again, ever. You'd be a co-conspirator to all the murders committed by these people. Joe Biden would be indicted right now for child sex trafficking because of what the CBP is doing. So certainly we can go after CBP for, you know, as we get down the line.
Starting point is 00:30:36 But look, my attitude here is, all right, baby. Supreme Court wants to open the door. We go, we arrest Obama. Well, here's the thing. I think you and I both know that this would be selectively applied. Sure. If this wants to open the door. We go, we arrest Obama. Well, here's the thing. I think you and I both know that this would be selectively applied if this were to ever happen. They would never use it against Obama. They would use it against Trump. They wouldn't use it against Biden. They'd use it against whatever Republican gets elected next. And Republicans will never do
Starting point is 00:30:58 anything. That's right. That's absolutely right. One of the things that came up was if you have to understand the personal political motivation, any president could be doing something to get reelected. Right. So all of their actions could be taken as actually self-serving or nefarious in some way. And the thing is, it can't be something that retroactively after the person leaves office, we go back and say, like, actually, you have to be convicted of this thing because whatever. Like, the reason that the impeachment process is important is because it sets a standard that the president has done something wrong, has failed, you know, in some version. It failed their oath of office in some way and that another branch of government has said you're gone. They would go back to this. The justice, when discussing it today, would come back to this idea that, like, well, other people have high pressure jobs and they have to abide by the law. And it's like being the CEO of a high powered
Starting point is 00:31:48 company isn't the same thing as the presidency at all. And also, yes, the president still has to abide by the law. There is still checks and balances on his power. He's not just allowed to do whatever he wants all the time forever. But there definitely always seemed to be in the court today this idea of like, what is the motivation behind it? And again, it was hard not to feel, especially with some of the more left-leaning justices, that it was as if they said no matter what Trump is doing, his motivations are always bad.
Starting point is 00:32:15 What concerns me is the precedence of this, because the amount of confidence they're going after these people and bending the law and prosecuting people the way they want to and just we're sitting here like, well, they'll never do the other guy. They're confident they're never giving up power again. Yeah. That's where they are. They're like, yeah, we'll set the precedence because of what everybody used to do against us.
Starting point is 00:32:32 I think you're exactly right. Well, I think they also, it's a mixture. I think they're certainly hoping that they'll never have to give up power again, but part of why they're so afraid and part of why they're pulling out all the stops and really showing their hand here is because they know they actually have the opportunity for that to be the case. And it's going to require Trump not being reelected.
Starting point is 00:32:52 It's all or nothing. Exactly. And so they know how important this election cycle is. They're behind the scenes saying, look, you know, you've got one guy and intelligence guy saying, if we if we implement these policies, it could be used against us. And he says, if we don't implement these policies, they will be used against us. That's right. Their only chance now is to throw everything at the wall and make sure Trump can't win. Yep. Yeah. They're terrified. They're terrified. That's why they're doing this. Like people don't even understand. They are as scared or more afraid
Starting point is 00:33:23 than us. People don't do things like this. people don't really go on the offensive unless they're afraid of what's going to happen to them yeah like they're scared too and there's hope in that well take a look at russia why does russia invade ukraine they're afraid yeah we're losing they lost the soft power battle the west was taking control of ukraine so russia says force was their only option yeah and i mean look the the all the existential threats that have come to Russia in the last 100 years have been from America and Germany. And then you have NATO, which is basically America and Germany. So I was like, yeah, of course, Russia is pretty afraid of losing Ukraine to NATO.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I'm not saying that that makes Putin justified, but I'm saying it does mean that he acted out of fear. The deep state is acting out of fear. We got to keep calm heads here, but we have to know what the stakes are. We can't be naive. We can't pretend that everything's going to be okay and we don't have to do anything. You can't become complacent. You have to stay active. I mean, I think one of the realities of choosing Biden to be the Democrat nominee is that it set them up for a very weak future. I don't really think that he had the popularity to be a two term president. And obviously there are questions about his health.
Starting point is 00:34:28 But it also encouraged, again, I would say a progressive activist base in the country to use lawfare as warfare and to specifically use any sort of judicial office as a way to go after their enemies. We're seeing this. I mean, New York is probably the biggest defender. You can talk about this with stuff they've done to Project Veritas. You can talk about what they're doing to Trump. There are so many organizations that are suffering at the hands of, like, Letitia James, Al Bragg. But it's also, I mean, you're the person talking about this. It's something that they did to people who went to January 6th, right? They overcharged.
Starting point is 00:34:59 They overinvestigated. They treated them like criminals before they were even fairly given a trial. Everyone was tried in D.C. where they were unlikely, realistically, to be able to face a jury of their peers. I mean, it is not something that can be unwound. We've had four years building towards this. And, you know, no matter who the next president is, I mean, if it's Biden, it'll get worse. And if it's Trump having to dial back sort of activist judicial DAs, it's going to be a really difficult challenge. Absolutely. Are you aware, so my initial charge is a felony theft for moving furniture. Never actually took it out of the building. It was sitting somewhere. I moved it 20 yards,
Starting point is 00:35:36 put it in the center, took a photo, left. That's my story. It's actually very boring. I was given an ankle monitor. I couldn't leave. I had curfew, had to be in the house. Horrible things, right? Well, the prosecutor who did that, do you know about my prosecutor? This is fun. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is fun. Is he in jail now? No, he's out.
Starting point is 00:35:52 No ankle monitor, no restrictions. He's out. Did he kill a guy? No, on the Howard Franklin down in Tampa where I live, this man got out of his car. It's on video, but allegedly always. And stabbed another motorist in the chest several times, breaking the window. This was my prosecutor. Yes, the guy lived.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Yeah, went to the hospital. He's OK now. But this guy didn't get any restrictions. No ankle monitor. They didn't call him a threat to his community. I move furniture, ankle monitor. You can't leave curfew. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Well, you did it at the Capitol. And we don't care what happens to average Americans. I mean, that was really what was communicated over and over again with all those January 6 trials. Right. If it happens to our elected elite, you know, maybe we'll be concerned. But if it happens anywhere else, like, I don't know, Summer of Love riots, it doesn't matter. We don't care about that. And again, this was all funded by the taxpayers. They use taxpayer money to then use the government to punish the taxpayers who are still obligated to support that.
Starting point is 00:36:47 That's why New York can go after Trump and every other organization endlessly, because the bureaucrats themselves aren't paying for it, right? Everyone who is in New York paying taxes is paying for it. And I have to imagine that this is a terrible system for them. Yeah. They have all sorts of issues on a state level. New York has had intense immigration over the last year, especially illegal immigration over the last couple of years. And their tax dollars are going after, you know, January 6th defendants and Donald Trump. That's exactly right. You look
Starting point is 00:37:13 at all of these issues. You look at the summer of love, the fact that billions of dollars of damage were caused, the fact that these communities are not going to recover for years and years and years if they ever do recover, the fact that people had their businesses burnt down. And for some people, they ran out of insurance money before they even cleared the rubble and went into debt just to have an empty lot, and that there were almost no prosecutions. It certainly didn't result in an investigation, even though two-thirds of the American people wanted an investigation into those riots more than wanted a January 6th investigation. But then January 6th happens. And now the
Starting point is 00:37:45 politicians feel unsafe. The politicians feel as if their territory has been trespassed upon, even though, as we all know, there was federal involvement and there could have been a lot done to prevent it, which was not done potentially with intention, though we don't know for sure with respect to why they didn't order extra security when they had word that something might've happened. You look at illegal immigration, the fact that these border towns with almost no resources are being absolutely flooded. You look at working class people being put out of the job.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Nothing happens. Who cares? But then they go into Martha's Vineyard, and those people are all pushed out of there instantly. Gone in like 48 hours. Oh, no, they actually got visas now. They got their now. Oh, good for them. Yeah, they all got visas now. They got, they're now. Oh, good for them.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Yeah, they all got visas now. Yeah, that came out like last week, I think. Well, ultimately, we all know the message that's being sent. You can harm and harass everyday American citizens and you will not be punished by the system. If you do something to stand up for everyday American citizens, you're going to be punished. You're going to be punished.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Seamus, I have to correct you. They did actually investigate some of those BLM people, and they actually got paid for doing it at the end of it because a grave injustice was done to them. So, no, that's absolutely right. I was referring to like an official investigation. So we actually had the January 6th committee. Two-thirds of the American people wanted an official committee to investigate the BLM riots.
Starting point is 00:39:04 We never got one. But you're correct that some of the people who were investigated where legal action actually was brought against them, they were released and they said, why did we do that to you? Good for them. My bad, here's a few thousand dollars. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's jump to the next story. Ladies and gentlemen, from the Daily Mail, Emory University protest descends into chaos as Georgia cops spray tear gas,
Starting point is 00:39:24 fire rubber bullets, and arrest dozens of students. We are seeing mass arrests. We are seeing people, check this one out. This is a pro-Palestinian protester storming in FIT in New York, the Fashion Institute. Okay. This is it. They're just taking over. You know what's funny?
Starting point is 00:39:42 Is that. I'll just show this video for a second. It really does feel like... I think a lot of people look at this and they don't think much of it. They ignore it. They go with their daily lives. One day, there will be 2,000 of these students in New York City in, let's say, Zuccotti Park. And they're going to be armed. and they're going to be armed,
Starting point is 00:40:12 and they're going to be wearing ridiculous clothing, and they're going to bring former officials up with dunce caps on, and they're going to mercilessly beat them in front of a cheering and screaming crowd. People need to understand that things like the culture revolution happen just with critical mass. That's it. There doesn't need to be a great awakening of the public it doesn't need to be that half the country decides they're communist it needs to be only that like 0.1 percent does and they go out and they start attacking people and taking over what we're seeing now these these these these protesters i will say this because certainly i think people are allowed to protest Israel, but I don't believe these people at large are actually protesting Israel. I think these are just, I think what we have here for the most part, while there certainly are people protesting Israel, I believe it's mostly communist leftists who are joining in protest for the purpose of
Starting point is 00:41:01 seizing territory, sowing discord, and trying to enact some kind of communist takeover or destruction of our institutions. And the example that I give you is, one, having actually had experience like by Wall Street, one of my favorite moments was when there were protests for Trayvon Martin, organized by some young college students, and they were leading the march. And they were like, we're going to go to one police plaza and protest police brutality. Several Occupy Wall Street activists ran to the front of the crowd and shifted the crowd away from the police station to Wall Street so they could jump on the ball and protest Wall Street because the crowd marched in the direction people told them to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:40 It's the same thing we're seeing here. These people, that's why there's that viral video of the young girl being like, I actually don't know what we're protesting. Yep. Yep. No, you're absolutely right. You mentioned it doesn't have to be a large percentage of the population, just 0.1% or whatever. And that's absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I mean, even 0.1% can be the people protesting. You just have to get a significant enough percentage of people to decide that they're unhappy with life enough to go out and start yelling in the streets. And then the most organized group within that faction always ends up taking over. I think what you have here quite a bit is there's an element of the right now that has gone very, very anti-Israel. And so the left is now seeing an opportunity, an attack vector where they would face limited criticism. You look at the Daily Wire, and I don't know exactly what Ben Shapiro said about it. Some people have accused him, someone super chatted us saying, Ben said, if you're an isolationist and you don't America first and don't support Israel, you're anti-Semitic. And it's not like something
Starting point is 00:42:33 Ben would say, but it kind of could be something, maybe it's misconstrued, I don't know. But we know that the Daily Wire is, of course, for obvious reasons, very pro-Israel. But you have on the right now, many people who are critical of wokeness, critical of DEI, and a lot of them are posting like hardcore anti-Israel content. So these leftists are now thinking, look, if we take this issue and we go and protest, we will have limited pushback from the right on this one. And I think they're right. I think there's like half of the right that is critical of Israel, doesn't want to be involved with Israel and is not going to push back. In fact, when Greg Abbott said he was arresting these people for anti-Semitism, many
Starting point is 00:43:12 people on the right were just like, that's hate speech. Are you nuts? Let him protest. When I was driving in tonight, I was listening to NPR and they were talking about how cultural Marxism is actually rooted in anti-Semitism because it's against like the Jewish academics that came up with the concepts behind it. Like the idea that this is the label that they're going to pin to sort of turn the tides is very strange to me. And I think ultimately with these students, some of them, you know, really strongly believe these things on either side. They're very pro-Palestine or whatever, Like, you know, they're affected by, you know, fears of anti-Semitism. But my concern is that as we go into the summer, as these schools let out, it could make them
Starting point is 00:43:52 die off because the students have to scatter. Or it could make the epicenters, you're starting to see these maps pop up, like Vanderbilt has an encampment. I think it's University of Minnesota has an encampment where all the other students in the area are like, this is what I'm going to do this summer. And the encampments become more serious. I mean, we're at this point where it could sort of go either way. But we know that this movement is spreading throughout the country.
Starting point is 00:44:13 So this is the Wikipedia entry for cultural Marxism. It says cultural Marxism conspiracy theory. That's funny. And it says it's a far right anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that misrepresents the Frankfurt School as being responsible for modern progressive movements, identity politics and political correctness. The conspiracy theory posits that there is an ongoing and intentional academic and intellectual effort to subvert Western society via planned culture war that undermines supposed Christian values of traditionalist conservatism and seek to replace them with culturally liberal values. I actually agree that's a conspiracy theory because I don't think that the woke left really do want to replace conservatism with woke liberal values or anything like that. I think they're literally just burning things down. So the emergence of the right doing these, you know, this anti-Semitism, anti-Semitism, I don't, I think it's actually very simple. I think that there are a handful of people that are pushing that narrative. But what I think is that we've been giving money for a very long time, very long time.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And it's never been an issue. People are struggling to eat. People are struggling to pay their mortgages. And they want someone to blame. I think a lot of it is very simple. So a lot of these people who are now speaking up, I've got to blame Ukraine, and Ukraine won't stop on our sending money to Israel. I think it's actually a lot more simple than that. They apparently now have another page called Marxist Cultural Analysis.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Yeah. And the funny thing is literally cultural Marxism, but you can't call it that anymore because that would be anti-Semitic. Exactly. It's literally the exact same thing. But it's the co-opting of language, right? Well, and you mentioned this, Tim. You just think they're burning it down.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I agree. I think those are the same thing. The idea that you'd call it like a conspiracy theory that academics in the american education system want to get rid of christianity and replace it with liberal cultural values like they tell us that's what they want they say that that's what they want what are you talking about anti-semitic though yeah that's anti-semitic i guess oh well for some reason it's gonna have to throw me in prison but first yeah right for some reason being critical of post-modernism and the frankfurt school means you don't like jewish people yeah it's like what does that make ben shapiro again
Starting point is 00:46:10 this was like the self-hating listening to npr like if you're a random person driving your car you're like i want to be informed i'm going to try and listen to it you probably listen to npr and so you're hearing like oh cultural marxism is actually anti-semitic because it's it's a criticism of the jew Jewish academics who created it or like whatever these two people who are discussing it are saying, like it makes it easy to learn that there are certain words that you are supposed to avoid. And I think it does misrepresent sort of people who use the term cultural Marxism to describe what's going on in this country who are not anti-Semitic at all. Like it's a very strange thing. But again,
Starting point is 00:46:43 it's an intentional move, I think, by progressive media outlets to shut down conversation and say, we're going to keep you on track by limiting the words you're allowed to use. Well, exactly. And so phrases like anti-Semitic racist, sexist, misogynist at bottom, what these phrases mean are your mean. And so when you say something that people in power don't like, for example, you point out that cultural Marxism is a reality, that all of our conventions and values have been subject to deconstruction over the past several decades and academia has been pushing it. Well, they go, yeah, well, you're mean. I'm saying that. I just want to point this out. Julio Rosa
Starting point is 00:47:20 says this tweet. He says the faculty and student walkout at UT Austin is now underway. A small group of pro-Israel protesters are nearby. So I'm confused. You have a bunch of professors who are critical of Israel. And then you have people who are claiming those professors are pushing, you know, woke policies, racist policies, and that they hate Israel. Yet it's the people critical of the professors who are anti-semitic when they've said nothing about jews and the protesters who uh and and the and the uh professors and and i will specifically say the ones who are talking about israel and not jewish people they are not they
Starting point is 00:47:58 like my my point here is it is anti-semitic it that it is hate speech against jewish people to criticize the professors who are criticizing israel i just i'm just genuinely genuinely confused by who's opposed to like what it's almost so illogical as it says it's as if it's all made up so it's interfighting there was a post from this former vice reporter where she had like a video of a guy who was i don't know anything about it but they were launching like a unite for israel protest and she was like they're cheering on the anti-semitism because it's a sign of the end times or something and i'm like i am so confused the people who are pro-israel are nazi anti-semites okay i guess i i don't i mean the country is entirely jewish but they're christians there are Christians and Arabs and Muslims who live there.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Except this is what I'm saying. It just means you're mean. That's all I mean. And both sides are standing. They're going, you're mean. And they're going, no, you're mean. That's what it looks like when one group calls the other group anti-Semitic or racist or sexist.
Starting point is 00:48:55 It's literally just two groups of people saying you're mean. Bring up an argument. Explain your point. No, you're mean is easier. All right, then you're just going to keep doing that. And then you got the U.S. government being like, we want to occupy all of the Middle East and go to war with Iran. So let's just call everybody racist. And then if they get mad about our foreign policy, we'll call them pro Putin. And then if they get mad about our Israel foreign policy,
Starting point is 00:49:16 we'll call them Jew haters. Exactly. Exactly. Like, I'm so we want to totally occupy the Middle East. And if you have anything to say about it, we're going to say that you're the mean one. I mean, I think this is the thing, though. They have created a culture where people are really afraid of these labels. And it deludes actual instances where there are problems or there really is true hate or something like that. It makes it so any kind of language is ultimately to shut down typically conservative speech and to make you back off from a position or to ask questions about something that you may genuinely want to know more about
Starting point is 00:49:53 or disagree with. And I think using these coercive terms to suppress thought is ultimately one of the reasons that left college professors and left students are walking out and all the parents and donors are like, but why? We didn't understand that this is what you believed. Well, you know, I learned something important with the protests that we're seeing with Mike Johnson threatening to pull funding, Mike Johnson saying Biden must bring in the
Starting point is 00:50:19 National Guard and shut down these protests. You know, I started to better understand. Then they went to ban TikTok. And I thought to myself, wow, I stand to make a lot of money by blindly supporting Israel. So from now on on this show, we all are pro-Israel, no matter what Israel does all the time. And we're opposed to these protesters. They all hate Jews and go Israel. And then, you know, I'm going to wait for someone to give me a call and offer me money. Check in the mail.
Starting point is 00:50:45 There are people who comment. They're like, Tim got the call from Israel or something. I'm going to wait for her, so I'm going to give me a call and offer me money. Check in the mail. There are people who comment, they're like, Tim got the call from Israel or something. I'm like, shut up, dude. Is that what that red phone is for? It just rings? Well, it's not a call from Israel. It just goes directly to Israel. It's a direct line to Hollywood. Oh.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Tim's always like, don't unplug this phone. Don't touch it. Now I know why. It's really mad when we go near it. Yeah, we had to install it after the whole yay thing happened, because they were like, Tim, you need to know who they really are. And I was like, oh. They gave you a call after you had Kanye on.
Starting point is 00:51:11 They came in and installed the phone line. But who is they, though? I think the deep state is effed. I think they're screwed. If they lose this election. No, I think they're screwed no matter what. The young progressives are anti-Israel. Like that is ludicrously bad for the American foreign policy.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Even Trump is pro-Israel. And so what do they do? They pick Trump. But Trump doesn't want to go along with their foreign policy plans. So they're like, you get some support for Israel. Trump absolutely would go that direction. But then he doesn't want war with Ukraine. He's going to try and enact these peace agreements,
Starting point is 00:51:47 and then we're not going to get to expand and energy and all that stuff. Then you go with Joe Biden. How long is that going to last, pushing Democrats when their voter base is anti-Israel and opposes your foreign policy? They're between a rock and a hard place. They're about to crumble and fall apart.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I do think it's kind of funny, though, that they're going to ban TikTok over this. They want to pull federal funding from universities. They want to send the National Guard. I'm seeing even celebrity posts. This one's really funny. Like normies posting things like these protests are anti-Semitic. And I'm like, wow.
Starting point is 00:52:20 You know, I can totally understand why there are people who are like, you got the call and they think that's the case. When you see things like Mike Johnson, when it's like he won't he won't send troops to the National Guard at the southern border. He won't send he won't send in. I shouldn't say he, but Republicans don't do anything about the mass riots. Black Lives Matter. In fact, Joe Biden supports all of that woke garbage and then as soon as a social media app starts allowing anti-israel content all of a sudden they spring into action yep but i think it's fair to point out the people who think israel control the united states i think are very
Starting point is 00:52:56 silly people because it's i don't know why people live in this world where they think this tiny nation which has been around for what like 80 years controls United States, which has military bases all over the planet, and is starting wars everywhere and spending money on everything. It's very clear that it's just a vassal of the United States that we use to stage war in the Middle East. And so this is American foreign policy to wage war. The United States has been trying to take over Iran. They have a list of countries they wanted to invade. The U.S. invaded a bunch of them.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Iran's not one of them yet, and they have a staging ground for it. There you go. Just the worst. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how we plan to do that at this point, though. Just with the disasters that we've had in the Middle East over the past 20, I mean, longer than the past 20 years,
Starting point is 00:53:41 but you just look at Iraq and Afghanistan specifically and you go, I have no idea how they could accomplish any foreign policy goal. Oh, you just fund both sides and just wait. I think the deep state's screwed, though, because it seems like the only argument they have right now is you're an anti-Semite. You're mean.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Yeah, it's like the only counter, when I see a celebrity post, these protests are anti-Semitic, I'm like, I mean, come on, I've seen some anti-Semitism, I agree with that, but these protests are just mindless leftists who are on TikTok. There's like, is the, is the only argument you have for what's going on that people don't like Jews? Well, also, all right.
Starting point is 00:54:13 If one group of people claims that another group of people is oppressing them, does that mean they're racist against the group that they claim is oppressing them? Because if that's true, then all of the BLM riots were entirely racist. No, because they were claiming that white people were oppressing them. That is the funny thing about the actual anti-Semitism. It's just like it's wokeness, but replacing white person with Jewish person. And it's the exact same argument. I call it the Jewish privilege argument. They're like, there are too many people who are Jewish doing this, that or otherwise. And they have a lot of money. And I'm like, it's not quite a privilege argument, dude.
Starting point is 00:54:45 I don't care. It's meaningless to me. But if the deep state's only argument right now in the press, like if this is what the news organizations are pumping out, it's anti-Semitic. I'm like, is that it? Because that's not going to win an argument with these people who are on TikTok and banning TikTok ain't going to do it either. Well, then they'll come up with a new word. I'm serious. They will.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Like, they kept calling everyone racist forever. And then when that didn't work against Donald Trump, they started saying white supremacist all the time. I'm serious. They kept calling everyone racist forever, and then when that didn't work against Donald Trump, they started saying white supremacist all the time. All the time. No one was using the phrase white supremacist to refer to their political opponents or almost nobody until Trump got elected, right? And so
Starting point is 00:55:17 when the anti-Semitic label wears off, they're going to come up with a different term. I feel like it's kind of over. Right? Like, you know, looking at what they're doing with Trump, the Democrats and the intelligence agencies, the criminal charges, these peoples are zombie-eyed. Like that woman from Arizona, I forgot her name, where she's like, I have made the hard decision to indict these people. She looks like she's been living off saltine crackers for the past several weeks. And they're just like, say the line. And she's like, I haveine crackers for the past several weeks and they're just like say the line and she's like i have no choice but to indict trump there's there's there's they've
Starting point is 00:55:52 become really really bad at what they do you know yeah i i think it the more you use terms broadly like this the less weight that they have right right? So if everything out there is, it's why I like to use the term hate crime. It's why everything that happens in this room that I don't like, I call it a hate crime, because I think hate crime is sort of a weird, ambiguous term that I think is misused by the justice system. And so I've just decided it's something I'm personally going to hijack. There are words that you could use, like labels you could throw around. And if we adhere to them as being very strict, very specific in use, it would be a meaningful label.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And you'd be like, wow, that person did this, serious. But if you just start calling everyone, you know, a bully, or if you start calling everyone a meanie or whatever it is, like it stops meaning anything. It doesn't have a way- You don't have a long enough timeline. We're all terrible people. So I guess that makes us all equal then? you know you know i have a cry bully i'm
Starting point is 00:56:49 actually fairly optimistic now looking at these protests and the failures of the deep state to curtail the expansion of this like deranged ideology and like whatever leftists are trying to do which seems to be just chaos. I'm thinking like, man, they've totally lost control. The fact that we're having this show at all, they can't control anything anymore. And it really does feel like their power is evaporating. As it evaporates, they become more and more desperate. But the end result is going to be the total disenfranchisement of the deep state, or whatever you want to call it. They're going to crumble. And then it'll be
Starting point is 00:57:29 interesting to see what happens. And then we'll, maybe then we'll be able to do shows without being censored. I think you look at BLM, you look at January 6th, look at this, remove yourself from the political ideology, where you align for all three of those things. At the end of it, there are people assembling who have grievances at what's going on in their country, and they have a right to do so. They should always have a right to do so. We have the right now saying that it's okay that we should take these people and arrest them because they're assembling against something I don't like, and they're going to willingly give up their right to assemble and share ideas. We're selling both sides on this idea. We're telling the left it's fine to get all
Starting point is 00:58:05 the J6ers because their ideas are bad. We're telling the right it's okay to get all these Palestinian supporters because all of their ideas are bad. And they're both nodding along in agreement. Well, it sounds like... Or referring to some small criminal element within the protest and saying because of that, you have to shut all of it down. Now, the difference... This is habit's language, though. Anti-Semitism will be arrested. We won't deal with that. And I just want to mention this to clarify so no one's confused here. This does not apply to the BLM riots because they were massively violent. Buildings were burned down.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Lives were destroyed. But with this protest, I would say the same thing. People who aren't breaking the law should not be arrested, right? People who aren't breaking the law should have the freedom to protest and say whatever. Adam, you say that we're selling this idea on both sides. What happens if you keep selling this idea on both sides that they're both evil, they must be stopped by any means necessary?
Starting point is 00:58:54 Oh, do I get to say it? Civil war. Oh, is that what you're gonna say? I don't know. I was just curious where you're going with it. That's Tim's slogan. You get out. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Maybe. I think we signed our rights away. I think we signed our rights away. I think we signed our rights away. We're happy to do it because at least we're winning. I think it is all of these beautiful ideas of freedom only exist in a security bubble. Feminism, one of the
Starting point is 00:59:21 latest, wokeism, all of these things can exist because we have created security. But I got to tell you, when you're in the wilderness and you're dealing with, like, let's just put it this way. Let's say you, good sir, Adam, you know anything about outdoors survival? Fair bit. Fair bit. So you're out and you're lost in the woods. You have limited food, water, supplies, ammunition, and a gun.
Starting point is 00:59:44 And you're with two fat New York liberals who have no idea and have never been in the woods before. And they're arguing with you about what to do. You won't stand for it. There's no question. You'll say, get out of my way. I'm not, you're, you're a moron. When, when you're dealing with real survival, it's fall in line. But in, in reality, I think these people would be like, tell me what to do. I went straight to, they're going to taste terrible. Oh yeah. Well, so, you know, I tell people during Occupy Wall Street, the police would say things like, that's a frozen zone. You can't stand there. And then people would argue that if the anarchists, they would be like, there's no such thing as authority doesn't exist. And I'd be like,
Starting point is 01:00:20 that's not true. Authority exists. And then they would make the argument, the police were saying frozen zone. That's not legitimate. And I was like, of course it's not true, authority exists. And then they would make the argument, the police were saying frozen zone, that's not legitimate. And I was like, of course it's not. But if you saw someone bleeding and a doctor was there in doctor clothes with a doctor badge and said, I'm a doctor, you put pressure on the wound, you'd say, yes, sir, that's real authority because you're trying to do right, you're trying to do good.
Starting point is 01:00:39 This was a Milgram experiment, right? People will look at someone and say, the Milgram was, doctors came in and they're like, yeah, I'll shock the person because this person's authority is telling me to do it. Well, it's good and it's bad. But my point ultimately is beautiful classical liberalism doesn't exist outside of a security bubble. Same thing as feminism, same thing as all of these ideas. Dude, feminism doesn't even exist when the check comes. Right. So, so right now we're talking about this idea of you've got these far leftists who are chanting pro Hamas slogans, who are chanting pro Hamas. They are chanting from
Starting point is 01:01:15 the river to sea and things like that. And, um, and worse things too. And we're supposed to say they're allowed to say it. And the argument is that we believe in free speech. So even if it's speech that we find abhorrent, we're not going to arrest them. But sooner or later, you are confronted by overt communists who are actively burning cities down, subverting your laws, taking over your institutions. And you are actually facing a real threat to life liberty. And you have to ask yourself whether or not liberalism can exist in a conflict. So if you are in a civil war and there is a let's say you have conflicted territories and someone comes into your territory preaching, telling everyone to take up arms to defend the other side. Let's say there's there's there's blue and red.
Starting point is 01:02:03 No, let's not say green and yellow because we don't want to make this sound like politics. there's blue and red. No, let's say green and yellow, because we don't want to make this sound like politics. There's green and yellow. They each have 50 yards of a football field. And you're on the green side. And you're saying we believe in family, traditional values. And one of the guys starts screaming, everyone, everyone now, take up your arms and fight for yellow instead. It wouldn't be tolerated. You'd be like, those people are actively trying to kill us and you are supporting them and trying to get our people to go join them. We're shutting you down. No questions asked because it's a life or death situation. The problem is liberalism exists when there's no conflict. And this is what we saw with the civil war. When Abraham Lincoln decided that he was going to have the Maryland legislature
Starting point is 01:02:41 arrested, and he did, he was going to create a corridor from D.C. up to Pennsylvania, I think to Philadelphia, where he suspended habeas corpus and started arresting people. One guy got arrested for no reason, just because they were like, we don't know, we don't care, we're at war, and we're locking you up because it's an existential crisis. We can sit here and talk about how we believe in free speech, even for those we don't agree with, how we have to defend that. And unfortunately, I think sooner or later, when it comes to the point where these people are, I don't know, taking over buildings across the country, firebombing them, and they've quite literally killed people. I don't know that we're at that point yet, but sooner or later, we're going to have to say, no, we don't tolerate them. And that is the difficult question, because they're saying the same thing of us, which I think just lends itself to then what's the ultimate conclusion?
Starting point is 01:03:27 People are going to fight. I hope not. I hope not. I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying. There's part of me that's like, you know, there's a lot of good people left. But more realistically, there aren't that many in shape people left. And it's hard to fight a war when everyone's out of shape.
Starting point is 01:03:44 That doesn't matter. I really do feel like so many people don't understand. The reason why I like the Civil War movie, I would have loved... I didn't get to see it yet. Was it good?
Starting point is 01:03:53 Eh, it depends. Your definition of good. If you want to see a movie about a Civil War, it's not your movie. Was it entertaining? I was entertained because I've done
Starting point is 01:04:00 conflict reporting. And so I really loved how they showcased the depravity of journalists. And I'm not being cute. I mean done conflict reporting. And so I really loved how they showcased the depravity of journalists. And I'm not being cute. I mean that quite literally. When the main character, the dude, is while bombs are going off
Starting point is 01:04:13 and they're literally killing people and shooting them, he looks over at one of the younger girl journalists and he smiles and nods like, yeah. And then she looks at him and she goes, yeah. Like, I'm not kidding. This is what they do. It's not about clicks. It's about these people love being there in the destruction, the flames, the fury without
Starting point is 01:04:29 having to reap the repercussions of what that conflict is. They love getting in the face of someone who's been stabbed or shot and just snapping pictures and they go to their friends and go, yeah, they love it. They're vultures. They call themselves vultures. But the reason why I did like the movie, aside from how they show journalists to be depraved it wasn't about what it's like it wasn't about a civil war it wasn't about the leaders of one government breaking away from the other government and threatening the president it was about regular people in a civil war and what that's like going
Starting point is 01:04:59 to a gas station and having a bunch of guys with guns and they're saying you can't have gas and then having to negotiate looters being strung up and bleeding to death begging for their lives see you know people are going to say things like like you know you're saying oh there's a lot of out of shape people that doesn't mean anything it literally means nothing when you can't walk to the grocery store because you don't know if one guy is in his house looking through his window with a long gun no i hear you And that was part of the movie too. They're driving down the road and then all of a sudden they start getting unloaded on. You have to consider also that 90% of people do not follow politics like we do.
Starting point is 01:05:32 They're not in the know. Civil war breaks out. Most of these people won't even realize why we're at civil war. They'll just know there are guns. There is violence. I'm going to survive and take care of my own. And there's a scene in the movie, it's in the trailer actually,
Starting point is 01:05:46 where the journalists, there's two guys and they're laying on the ground. And one guy, that's the sniper rifle. And one guy's, I don't know what it's called, but one guy's like tracking with binoculars, the other guy's shooting. And they're like, what's going on? And it's like, the guy looks at her and he's like,
Starting point is 01:06:00 someone is shooting at us. And then there's a pause. And then the guy is like what are you doing and he's like oh you're stupid someone is trying to kill us we are trying to kill him they don't know who it is and they're like you don't know what no you have no idea and this is true for war in general people don't get it friendly fire is common they're not going to pass out uniforms and flags but we might be able to recognize them by their masks. It's not just that,
Starting point is 01:06:27 it's that you're gonna hear a gunshot and you're gonna hit the deck. And then you don't know. Like there could be two Trump supporters wearing gear and they're not gonna know they're two Trump supporters. There could be Antifa and some other leftist faction. They don't know who each other are. It doesn't matter. It's just going to be chaos.
Starting point is 01:06:43 My argument is that I don't even think it's gonna be based on ideology for the majority of people. I think it's going to be based on survival. If it really does get kinetic like that and cities are burning, again, most people don't follow politics. They don't really have a side. They just know there is chaos and I'm going to survive. And then it's going to, factionalism in conflict like this is, it's not going to be ideological. It's going to be brand. It's going to be someone saying like, look, all I know is those guys are the bad guys. Yep. Don't care what you think or why it will immediately break down into the leaders of one side are going to say like,
Starting point is 01:07:15 you know, the funny thing is if it really came down to a conflict between the woke left and the Trump supporters, like the left would have you believe that the right and the MAGA people would be racist, white supremacist, only white people, no trans people, quite literally not true. Both factions will be multi-ethnic and diverse. Although I think the left will have more elements of diversity, equity, inclusion kind of stuff. But for the most part, it's going to be white liberals. It's going to be the same thing. And ultimately what it comes down to is it's going to be people just taking territory and not caring what your name is who you are what your beliefs are they're going to say are you in conflict or combat or not
Starting point is 01:07:50 we just got to secure the hormone replacement drugs that's how we win none of that will even exist not that will evaporate from the from the from the from from culture in two seconds in a conflict all of these isms and all of these beliefs and all these worldviews only exist in the refined machine. As soon as the machine breaks down and you can't get mouthwash anymore, dental hygiene is gone. And there's not going to be people being like, we have to secure the Listerine factory. No, they're going to be like, do we have the river? How are our people drinking water? And then they're going to be like, the other side came in the middle of night and torched a wheat field. It's people. I don't think people understand.
Starting point is 01:08:27 They live in a world of movies and video games. And it's kind of wild to think about. Look at the photos and videos from Aleppo. And there's a guy walking down the street in rubble with a grocery bag. Yeah, he went to the grocery store. He bought groceries. They were expensive groceries, but he did. And that happens.
Starting point is 01:08:43 And people seem to think that it doesn't. Damascus at the height of the Civil War. They were at their nightclubs. There's a sarin gas attack a few miles away from the nightclub and people were just there partying. Like, what are you going to do? So that being said, let's let's move on to a bit more fun. We have this story from the Daily Mail. New York City construction worker goes viral for saying exactly what he thinks of Biden. After attending Trump visit. This man represents the majority of America. He said something very simple. And he's wearing his hard hat the right way.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I want to I'm going to play the video. And so I guess we'll just do a what's it like seeing so ear earmuffs for your kids. Oh, here you go. What's it like seeing so many Republicans in Manhattan, so many Trump supporters in Manhattan? Is that surprising? No, not at all. It's turning now. Trump's turn again.
Starting point is 01:09:30 What's your message to Joe Biden? F*** you. Oh, my God. OK, so as we're sitting here having this very somber and serious conversation about the uprising of far left extremists, when in New York City, that's the message from a regular old working class guy in construction maybe we should be a little more optimistic yeah maybe maybe the uh the deep state has failed the the woke like they've they tried to wield the woke left and it's turned against them and now they hate israel and they're chanting pro-Hamas things, they've lost control. I mean, they bet on Joe Biden, and that was a mistake, I will say. Again, you know, he's not doing so well, and he's not as likable. I mean, we were talking about this
Starting point is 01:10:15 the other night on the show, but a lot of people were like, oh, he's Obama's vice president. They're best friends. He was the sidekick that people were sort of fond of. And then when he had to become the main character, not only did he stumble in a lot of policy ways, obviously, people are suffering with the effects of inflation. But genuinely, people just are not engaged by him. If you're a New Yorker, you're not going to pick Biden over Trump if you are looking for someone who roots for the working class and for someone who actually has charisma. Like, these are things that Biden does not have, no matter how hard he tries to pretend otherwise. Well, also, we have the story and we have the narrative that Obama and Biden were best
Starting point is 01:10:51 friends, but we all know about the famous Obama quote from behind the scenes. Oh, yeah. Never underestimate Joe's ability to F something up. So I'm going to play this again real quick. This is Joe Biden. F*** you. Oh, that's my new ringtone. Trump's turn again. up so I'm gonna play this again real quick you so like maybe we should be concerned the deep states lost control the woke left but then when you find out that they've lost control of the New York City construction workers I think
Starting point is 01:11:23 maybe we'll be okay. It's true. Oh, my gosh. That's hilarious. One can only hope. I'm an eternal optimist. I mean, I do hope the country gets back on track. And I would like to see Trump back in office. I'd love to see him just go gung ho and arrest everyone and gulags.
Starting point is 01:11:38 And that'd be fantastic. But the issue is, you know, the deep state may be struggling to maintain control. These charges against Trump are desperate moves. But even if Trump does get in office, they're still there. You know, we say this about Trump supporters when they say censor them, shut them down, lock them up. It's like, yeah, they're not gone. They're still there.
Starting point is 01:12:01 If Trump does get elected, I don't imagine a reality where Trump cleanly and easily goes in and starts arresting people. I don't see a situation where Trump says, Trump wins, and he goes, the DOJ will now be investigating the corrupt actions of the New York state prosecutors, the DA, the judges. They're going to say, OK, Trump, it's on. Let me put it this way. Ukraine for a long time was a battle of soft power. And I think soft power is appropriate. And it's how we should handle things. You influence, you offer resources, you support the politicians you like. And Russia and the US
Starting point is 01:12:42 were doing that in Ukraine. Russia lost. Soft power battle went towards the U.S. and NATO. So Russia said, fine, war and invaded because they're like, that's it. That's where we go when soft power stops working. Yeah, I think right now they're trying soft power against Trump and it's converting into hard power. What I mean is they they media manipulation, financial manipulation, targeting censorship and all these things were soft power. Now that they're moving into crimes that don't exist in statutory law. Now that they're trying to jail Trump and strip the office of powers, it is shifting from soft to hard power. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Threatening Trump with incarceration by physical force is crossing the Rubicon and it was done by Democrats. If Trump wins, Rubicon's already been crossed. Yeah. I mean, they're absolutely terrified. So when you look at how things began with Donald Trump back in 2015, when he announced his candidacy, from that point onward, I don't think I can point to a single other person in living memory who the media did more to destroy, and none of it worked. Normally, that works for them, right? Normally, the character assassination stuff is pretty effective, but it wasn't here. So once that wasn't effective, they had to move into lawfare.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Well, what's going to happen if lawfare isn't effective? That's where things start to get kind of scary. Well, but this is, we're beyond lawfare. Lawfare was suing Trump, the civil case. They are quite literally saying they will put Trump behind bars. That is a threat of physical violence against him. And there's no statutory law. This has to be repeated over and over again, because this is the line. Trump's criminal trial in New York is not based on any standing statutory law. That's it. Yes. And the TV can say over and over again, there's no crime. Fox News can say it over and over again. There's no crime. I think people need to understand what that means.
Starting point is 01:14:43 See, legislature says, we've've all here's a bill. You are not allowed to kick dogs. And then they all vote on it and say, OK, we've passed the bill. You cannot kick dogs. And if you do, here's the penalty range. What Trump has been charged with doesn't exist. They just came out and said. Arrest Trump and Trump was like, I guess I'll show up for it. So we're already at the point where this is no different in my mind than NYPD officers breaking into someone, some random woman's home, putting her in a car, dragging her to an undisclosed location and putting her in a cage. There's no, there's no, they're under, under nothing in the law can they be doing this, and they're all doing it
Starting point is 01:15:26 anyway. I think we're stuck on a path to accelerationism. I really, really do. I think that we are just on that path, and that's where we're going. Now, the difference between Trump and the Democrats is I believe the Democrats, when they say, I want to return to normal, they mean that. They want to get back to business as usual, funding wars, all these things, right? Trump is an accelerant as well. Trump gets in office. What he's doing is more of a controlled burn instead. And that's what concerns them. They're both accelerants. One will get us back to normal.
Starting point is 01:15:51 It's a wildfire at this point. They're just throwing everything at the wall. Trump is a controlled burn. I actually see a path towards stabilization, a possibility. And that would be deep state intelligence agents meeting with Donald Trump and saying, cease fire, saying you will be the next president. You will live comfortably. Let us know what you're willing to accept in terms of concessions. And we stop this conflict now before the country loses control. I think Trump would say yes. Maybe that's why Trump was working with Republicans on supporting Ukraine and Israel
Starting point is 01:16:19 war funding. That's the same thing as putting Biden in office, though. That's the same thing. Yeah, I disagree. I disagree. It's I think what happens with Trump 2016 is they bring him into the skiff and they say, I don't know if I don't know if they would actually bring him into the skiff, but they bring him in the secure room, say, here's what's going on. And Trump says, OK, yeah, no. And then they said, this is our plan. Do it or else, as they often do with presidents. And Trump said, no. Mike Johnson said, yes, was Jack Posobiec who tweeted that. I think this time around, I think it might be, if the proposition is this country falls into decay, conflict, and crisis between two warring factions, or they capitulate, allow Trump to be president, but ask for concessions, I think that's the better option.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Concessions being people need to be arrested. People need to be brought on charges. People need to be brought in. There needs to be indictments. What if they said, OK, Trump, here's what we're going to do. No more wars. You win the foreign policy. We pull our troops back.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Diplomacy, peace agreements, border security, bringing our jobs back. America first, national and all of the policies you wanted. No strings attached, except no arrests. I don't, dude, I think they would throw some low level people under the bus before they roll back any of the foreign policy stuff. Yeah, but I don't think Trump accepts that. I'm saying like they go to Trump and actually Trump might accept some foreign policy stuff. Apparently, Trump was working with Mike Johnson and other Republicans on the foreign funding bill.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Yeah, he was. So I would not be surprised to hear that what's actually going on with the far left protesters being. Let's say this. entertain the possibility that China, through TikTok and anti and not necessarily just China, but other countries subverted the woke left, destabilizing the deep state's plan, turning the woke left into anti Israel, subverting U.S. foreign policy. Donald Trump is pro Israel. What if it actually happened is the deep state went to Trump and they said, we can't win. And this doesn't end well for either of us. So how about we just cease fire? Biden's out, you're in, you win 2020.
Starting point is 01:18:28 The Trump supporters feel vindicated. They feel like they've got their country back. We'll give you a handful of concessions. You'll live comfortably. We'll leave your family alone. There will be some arrests. The wokeness will lose, but we will still be here after you leave.
Starting point is 01:18:40 It's the other half of the population that showed up to his inauguration and set buildings on fire. What do we do with them? Because the people will not stand for Trump being elected again. So we're talking about two different territories. Is it better that politicians make peace? Because the people will still make war. But I disagree. I disagree. And I think, you know, I have no idea what's going on in the scene, but entertaining the possibility, these anti-Israel protests are pissing everybody off like like i said there are celebrities that i've seen on social media posting like these protests have become anti-semitic and i'm like that's an
Starting point is 01:19:13 interesting message did like their agent tell them to post that or something because you know they do the black square and the rainbow flag and now they're posting the we stand with with the jewish community here no anti-semitism trying to shift that narrative to make it seem like the left is the hate-filled you know extremists so how do you deal with them first of all trump's already winning in the polls you yeah you you have to placate but i i wonder if trump conceding some ground but ultimately getting to implement his policies or or even even if like, look, look at the I think it was 1876 was the election where the alternate dual electors were sent by different states.
Starting point is 01:19:55 And I think it was I can't remember what happened. I think the Republican won the popular vote, but then they gave to the Democrats someone if you could factor me on this one. Ultimately, the president was chosen by a committee seeking to avoid war. I wonder if that is the better option. I don't see this escalating to conflict being a good thing that anybody wants. And anybody who says they want it has never experienced conflict. The people who all have experienced war and conflict are the ones online saying,
Starting point is 01:20:23 you don't want it, stop. Stop now before it's too late. So if the deep state went to Trump and said, you're going to win, but we're going to compromise. I think I think the right move is for Trump to say yes. Otherwise, what happens? You don't get eggs anymore. There's no milk. There's no bread.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Far leftists are taking over different cities. There's gun battles. We don't want any of that stuff. I'm proposing they do it if he does win that is you think that even if he wins i'll just do it anyway yes i do these people have been weaponized they've been told for the past six seven years now this man is literally hitler and when he comes into office it is your job to make sure that it is uncomfortable for him yeah how do you roll that back right how do you say, this guy's Hitler, but we'll make a deal with him. And to be fair, communists literally made a deal with actual Hitler early on.
Starting point is 01:21:10 So who knows? Who knows? Maybe they would compromise. These aren't people who have real value. Then the scary reality is there's no off ramp. This is kind of where I'm at. And again, taking that deal just puts Biden in office. We're still at the same speed.
Starting point is 01:21:22 It's business as usual. The people have been deeply involved in politics since COVID because they had nothing left to look at. They're angry on both sides. What calms them down? It's not Trump in office. It's not Biden in office. Luckily, it was the election of 1876, if that helps.
Starting point is 01:21:39 And it was- Who won the popular vote? Was it the Republican? It was, it was, it says Rutherford, Hayes, need all three votes that South Carolina challenged. Maybe we're thinking about different elections. No, 1876. Yeah, my understanding is that the guy who won the popular vote
Starting point is 01:22:00 wasn't given the presidency because they had compromised to avoid civil war. They were on the verge of America falling into civil war again. It was during reconstruction and they said, you end, or maybe it was the other way around and they gave it to the Republican. I'm not sure. They said, you end reconstruction. We'll give you the presidency. We won't fight about it. I think the only thing that brings people back together is some type of catastrophe, some type of national. I disagree. Look at 9-11. What did that do to everyone? Yeah, that was a different time, man. Yeah, no, I totally agree.
Starting point is 01:22:30 I think, I mean, I think about this sometimes because, you know, I've got friends from the South who, you know, after 9-11 were inspired to join the military, right? People who didn't know a single person from New York who'd never been there, but they saw that as an attack on their country. Honestly, I think today, if some city
Starting point is 01:22:50 in the South was attacked, left-wing New Yorkers would not see that as an attack on their country. They'd see it as an attack on other people who they don't care about. And similarly, I think if left-wing people in New York were attacked, I think conservatives in red states would not see it as an attack on America. I think they'd see it as an attack on left-wing people. I just don't see a tragedy like that uniting the country at this point. I think if an attack happened on one of these like anti-Israel protests, there would be a ton of people on Twitter just laughing. I agree. I think though, if there was a common enemy pointed out, people would gather together. I don't think so. They need someone to hate together.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Right now, you've got people on the right saying not everybody but there are people on the right saying that putin is defending like traditional conservative christianity and things like that and they believe he's a good guy he is not a good guy he is another competing interest vying for power but you have people saying these things you have people who are on the left who have gone to china and celebrated the chinese communist party you have true dough for it. We have such a strong ideological division. If conflict really broke out, like if Trump were to get elected, I would not be surprised if West Coast states asked China for help and said, look, you know, we love China. We need your help. Trump's a fascist. Aliens could invade Earth, and I don't think we'd find unity.
Starting point is 01:24:09 We'd be like, aliens, get them. No, I think what would happen is the left would start making some ridiculous argument about a chance for peace and learning and understanding. The right would take a security approach and say, we can't just assume that, you know, foreign travel, like alien travelers from other planets are gonna be secure. And then the leftists are calling the right evil bigots and racists. And then it's just it, it's busted. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Well, I'm gonna try to stay positive about it, you know? So what's your prediction for the election and for, you know, the months afterwards? Well, I don't know if Trump is even going to be able to run. I really don't. If the idea is that Deep State's doing all of this to try to make sure he can't run, why would they even put him on the ballot? Why would they do that? I know we've had cases go up where they try to take him off and they put him back on. Hey, you can't do that. But who says they won't? So you think he won't even appear on the ballot? I don't think he will.
Starting point is 01:25:07 I don't. I just, I don't see how they let that happen. So no Trump running? Like, who is the Republican then? Oh, Nikki Haley. She's best for everyone. You, well, see that or yay. And you stand by that sentiment.
Starting point is 01:25:20 I just wanted, I want to clarify. Okay, I figured it out. Trump and Biden hold a public meeting to bury the hatchet. Trump says, we can't go on this way. We're going to have to have a conversation. So I'm meeting with Joe. He's a good guy. You know, I've said some bad things about him.
Starting point is 01:25:35 And then Joe's like, yo, come on, man. Like, we got to come together like Americans. And then they meet, they shake hands, and then both get beamed up by an alien spacecraft. Nikki Haley runs out and goes no i guess now i'm gonna be the president and everyone claps then q anon's right again because project blue beam project blooming takes away trump right i i i don't know about all that i i i i can't see how trump would not be the guy i mean he's made his nomination right now i just i don't see how they let him run
Starting point is 01:26:05 if the sentiment like again we're watching this video the sentiment is people are really pissed off at joe biden he's looking good in the polls why would they let him run if he's going to win they're doing everything to not let him yeah i was gonna say would it be like he's ineligible because he loses a court case like how would they keep him off the ballot they just forget to print his name. Well, is the smearing effective enough? OK, let's say he is on the ballot. Is the smearing effective enough to get people to show up for him?
Starting point is 01:26:32 If he has multiple felonies that convicted him, like, will people show up to vote for someone who is in prison? Yeah. I think there's a lot of people throughout history who have been imprisoned on one political power. I know DeSantis voters are not showing up to vote. And that is a reasonable amount of people. I I can't see.
Starting point is 01:26:53 I've met way too many people equally who are like, I voted for Biden. It was a mistake. I won't do it again. Doesn't mean they're voting for Trump. What if we just get like record low voter turnout? Yeah, it's like 10 million people vote. And that's it. There was a poll really recently that said this is uh the least amount of interest that people have had
Starting point is 01:27:09 in the election since like 2008 isn't that wild with how crazy everything is right now yeah people talk about politics constantly but i think it's almost disenfranchising people i think there are people who are like it doesn't matter what i do Things are just getting so bad and I don't like any of the options. And, you know, it becomes like stress avoidance. It's so stressful to think about the fate of the country and how badly you need things to change that you sort of want to opt out. It's not really the best option, but I think there are a lot of people who almost want to avoid the polls because they feel like no matter what, they're doing the wrong thing. I believe Marvel. People are tired of sequels.
Starting point is 01:27:47 And this is like the ultimate sequels matchup here. I wonder if everyone is just burned out of everything. Yeah, everyone's just tired. Tired of everything, though. It's been a crazy couple of years. With no centralized culture, there's no mission. There's no plan. There's nothing to hope for.
Starting point is 01:28:02 There's nothing to wake up for. Nothing to celebrate. There are very few wins that everyone is like, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. It's like the further you go back with the unified culture, you wake up and you're like, I really want to accomplish this thing. I'll feel good and people will cheer me on. But now it's everything so just shattered and fractured. Nobody cares anymore about any of it. But I think it's just become like hyper personal. Yeah, well, it's true.
Starting point is 01:28:28 So obviously, historically, when communication was limited, people had their own niche interests in a certain town or community or village might have their fables and stories. And you would not be united to people with respect to the kind of entertainment that you watched if they were somewhere very far away from you and by watched i mean like literally like watched in person prior to television but there was this interesting sweet spot in history where mass communication existed but only a very small percentage of people could actually afford to produce it and so everyone just got the same mass entertainment.
Starting point is 01:29:07 And we view that as normal. And it's strange that that's changing. But that's not historically normal. We're actually kind of returning to historic norms in a lot of ways. And in many ways, that's really a very good thing. In other ways, it's troubling. I mean, for example, accents cross nationally have pretty much been eliminated by mass communication. People used to speak in very different dialects in different places, and now everyone sounds roughly similar. And I think niche art forms were eliminated. I mean, you go across the United States today, and you could be fooled as to where you are because everywhere has the same stores, right? Everywhere has the same gas stations.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Yeah, that's true around the world. Everywhere has the same restaurants. I know. Everything's become so homogenized. So I don't exactly think it's a step in the wrong direction that at least our entertainment's becoming more niche. I think it's kind of a good thing. Yeah, I think too.
Starting point is 01:29:58 It allows for the development of some unique content. What I mean is there's no shared vision of a people. Now, that's not good. So they don't care. And sure. Then it just becomes random. Yeah. Well, I mean, because historically, right, you had a time before mass communication, but where, for example, throughout the West or Christendom, people were Christian. They had the same moral vision, even if they had different kinds of foods or they prefer different kinds of entertainment or told different kinds of stories. They were still on board with a singular unifying message. You're right that that's also not the case anymore. I mean, I think it's sort of a tower of Babel.
Starting point is 01:30:31 Everything's become smashed to pieces and we can't communicate with each other anymore. Right, right. I mean, I think there is sort of an overarching lack of patriotism, right? Like people don't generally all agree like America is a good place and we have good values and we want to keep making it better. I think there are definitely a lot, especially with young voters. I think there is a big split between people who are like, I think this is a good country and other ones who have grown up hearing it's uncool to praise America. And so they won't. And I think to your point, regional culture in America is very powerful because we are such a large geographic country that being able to say like, well, in my part of the world, this
Starting point is 01:31:08 is how we do things. These are our social customs. These are like local, you know, even like fruits that we use in this way and it makes out this product that we all get excited about. Like, this is a regional tradition. I think some of the last great vestige I can think of this in America is state fairs.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Like the Minnesota state fairs always gets a ton of coverage because it's so big. Or the Texas state fair. County fairs. We got county fairs out here. County fairs. And those are good too. And I think they are like, it's one of the best parts of like the late summer. But I think this idea that like there is something that everybody in your state goes to and is
Starting point is 01:31:38 just excited about and you have a good time. Like that's very far and few between. City folk don't get it. You know, out here we have all these different county fairs and you can see cows and pigs and chickens. Some people have two cows. Well, and people like compete in it. You'll enter like quilts or baked goods or whatever. Like it's a time to come in.
Starting point is 01:31:58 You can like go to exhibition halls. Like these ideas that we are sort of coming together to look at what other people are doing and to say, like, hey, you're the best at growing watermelon or whatever it is. Like, it sounds almost folksy. On the other hand, it gives you something to sort of look forward to and to come together as a community. You can milk the cow. They have like cow milking stations. And then if you come at the right time, they will let you actually take milk from the cow right there. And you can walk into the different barns
Starting point is 01:32:25 and they'll have rabbits and they'll have just all different kinds of animals they have like all different kinds of chickens and so you can walk in and see all the different kind of livestock that everybody has so there'll be like emus and it's fun because it's just like a local community thing and then you see like the gigantic hogs just laying there smelling like crap they have alpacas which are hilarious and look creepy, but are funny at the same time. I think we have two versions of the American dream. I really, really do.
Starting point is 01:32:51 I think, and I think one of them for the liberals, like they're able to achieve it, right? It's, you know, don't get married, don't have kids, get money, be selfish. Do all the things that make you happy, right? Self-centered. And they're achieving that not being happy. The American dream for someone like me
Starting point is 01:33:04 is have a big family, like afford a house, you know, do that Americana stuff, go to fairs. Eat corn. They can't do that either because there's no money. People are broke. They can't afford to buy houses. Interest rates are really high. So you've got one set of people getting their American dream, getting their way that are miserable, and one set of people can't actually get it. Well, that's funny.
Starting point is 01:33:21 It's like at these fairs, what are you hoping to accomplish? Like the guy. Community. Recreation. No, but it's like that's a given. When you show up to the community fair and you bring your large rabbits, why are you doing that? Because you want to show your neighbors how big you've grown these rabbits and you're excited about it. You're passionate about your rabbits.
Starting point is 01:33:43 And I'm not even kidding. We went to like three or four last year. They're fun. And there's like a big cage and this massive rabbit. And everyone's like, wow, look at that guy's like, look at this rabbit. Yeah, I feed him. And then in the big cities, what do they have?
Starting point is 01:33:58 Spin rims, gold chains. No, for real. It's like, yeah, it's just, what are they trying to accomplish? So the thing is the amount of money you need to, if you're in a city and you're trying to show off status, you know, and you want to be high value or whatever, a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:34:13 But if you want to be high value at the community fair, you just got to get a big chicken. Put a lot of work in. You just breed, you breed the, breed your chickens, some Jersey Giants maybe, and make a real big one, and then show up and be like, look how big my rooster is. And they go, wow,
Starting point is 01:34:26 that is a big rooster. And that's it. You need land for that. You need time for that. Yep. But these are things that people don't have anymore. They can't afford anymore.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Yeah. I think the economic aspect is true. I mean, part of one of the, one of the bittersweet things about people going through tough economic times is that they have to say like, are we going to buy tickets to the fair, right? If it costs gas to get to it, are we going to do that? On the other hand, I think people who live in cities which are sort of epicenters for promoting consumerism, you know, they're infinitely more bitter because they can't just like go to their backyard and
Starting point is 01:35:05 hang out, right? Like the idea that you are always paying crazy amounts of rent and you always are being told, well, you need to have this thing, you have that thing. I'm not saying that that kind of consumerism doesn't occur to people who live outside cities, but it's just, to me, it seems like the pathway towards bitterness and there's no reprieve from it. You know, when the lockdowns first happened, we were in Deptford, New Jersey, and we had a backyard with large concrete slab that we had skate stuff on and a mini ramp for skateboarding. We had music. We had a little fire pit that we built, you know, some stone.
Starting point is 01:35:39 And then after the show, we'd go out, light a fire and have marshmallows and we were hanging out. And we didn't really go out all that often as it was. And we ended up leaving after a few months when lockdowns were getting heavy. But I was thinking about it after the fact, because I wasn't in New York City. Most of the people were locked in a studio or one bedroom. They couldn't leave. Like, sure, they could go outside, but there was nothing outside.
Starting point is 01:36:02 The stores were all closed. There was nowhere to go. So they're sitting at home and just watching TV, and their brains were frying. They were losing vitamin D. Meanwhile, me and my friends were hanging out in the backyard skateboarding, roasting marshmallows, grilling burgers. And it was the same for us for the most part. We'd go to the grocery store, and everyone's wearing masks. It's like, okay.
Starting point is 01:36:23 Then we'd go home, and we'd grill burgers, and we'd make pizzas. We'd play Magic the Gathering. And I was like, didn't really notice much. It started to get a little heavy. We got scared when they were talking about shutting the bridges down. And I was like, I don't know how far this goes, but I do not want to be stuck in the New Jersey Peninsula when they close the bridges.
Starting point is 01:36:37 And we were planning on moving anyway. So I was like, let's move early. And then we came out to the tri-state area. Now we're formally 100% in West Virginia. But especially then coming out here, it was unrestricted in any way. Now, Maryland was nuts, Frederick especially, but in West Virginia, they had like mask mandates
Starting point is 01:36:53 and nobody did it. And you drove around, everything was open. Everything was normal. People were, the crazy thing I would say is the casino, it was free money. No joke, no joke. So man, what a time to be alive. There was a casino up in maine that still
Starting point is 01:37:07 had last year covid restrictions in place let me explain to y'all what this means so uh they have card games at table at table games as you know in casinos one of these table games let's called mississippi stud you ever hear of it no okay here's how the game's played everyone gets everyone puts an ante up usually it's like five to 20 bucks. So there's, there's four betting positions. You put a five, $5 down and he gives you the dealer. He or she gives you two, two cards. You can't show anybody your cards though.
Starting point is 01:37:34 It's against the rules. In fact, if you show your cards, you can get kicked out of these casinos. Why? Three cards are placed up top. You look down at your two cards. If you think they're good because you're trying to make a good five-card poker hand, you can bet one to three times in the next position to reveal one more card.
Starting point is 01:37:50 So here's the thing. The purpose of the game is to get a hand that is a pair of jacks or better. Jacks, queens, kings, aces, straights, flushes, three of a kind, four of a kind, et cetera. Well, the reason why you can't tell anybody what cards you have in your hand is because then they'll know if they can win or lose before they spend any money.
Starting point is 01:38:06 So if you've got a full table of six people and you look down at your cards and you've got ace, king, you're like, oh, boy, if there is an ace or king up top, the three cards that are not revealed, I will win double my money. But you don't know yet. So you could make all the bets and then lose and take your money. If I only knew what everyone else had so during covid everyone was forced to play with their hands face up and they weren't allowed to touch the cards the dealers were all wearing masks and gloves and would place the cards in front of everybody and you'd look down and go okay i got ace king ace king ace king none of us can win everyone folds it was it was nuts and there was a casino in maine last year like this is not even like barely last year.
Starting point is 01:38:45 It's like eight months ago that still had this in play. And people apparently travel across the country to go there because the casino just loses money from it. Yeah. It's like if not all games are like this, like blackjack is played face up. But if you're playing a game where you're trying to figure out if you can make a pair and what your odds are but you can see all the other cards that was the insanity of covid and that was the only thing i would say that was different in west virginia is that i walked in the casino and there's plastic separating everything and you can't touch your card so they show you everything everyone has and i was like i didn't understand what was going on though so yeah it was wild i so right before COVID began, I was up in the Chicago area with my family.
Starting point is 01:39:27 And then I didn't leave until like May. I got locked out. I couldn't get another rental car. I couldn't leave. Dude, I went back down to Georgia where I live. And it was like I was back in America. It was crazy. Things were so locked down in Chicago. You couldn't go anywhere. You couldn't do anything. And then in Georgia, it was just like life had continued life, whereas cities keep to a grinding halt. Maybe that's a sign that, like, you know, these systems that they're dependent on are maybe not a long-term solution. We're going to go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already,
Starting point is 01:40:14 would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us to become a member and support our work, because this show is made possible thanks to part of viewers like you. We are operating because we have members. You guys basically allow us to do the show and and do everything we're doing were it not for you we wouldn't be here probably just be doing a morning show so i really do appreciate it youtube has gotten a bit censorious they shut down our two biggest shows
Starting point is 01:40:36 so we really could use your support but um i'm we are in the middle of i will just say this going over contracts so i don't want to say say too much because third parties are involved in their privacy matters and nothing's finalized. But let me just stress, we will not tolerate the censorious actions of YouTube, which many people have been telling us about more and more. I think in spite of YouTube's actions and trying to shut us down, silo us and isolate us with your support as members as well as everyone who shares the show.
Starting point is 01:41:08 It's become increasingly difficult for them to do. And I will also add, they will not let us run ads to promote the show. Every single ad I've made, save one that has been. So right now, the point is we are siloed. They're making sure only certain people can see the show. So I'm like, okay, I'll run an ad targeting other markets and they claim it's all election advertisements and we're not allowed to do it.
Starting point is 01:41:33 So I think it's fairly obvious. They're like, no, no, keep them in the bubble. Don't let them out. But we got a big move, a big move coming up. And I think we're gonna be doing a massive marketing plan too. So I have to wait a little bit. Lawyers are going over final paperwork as I speak with top men. What I can say is follow
Starting point is 01:41:50 the show. Subscribe to us here. Follow the show at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL and X at Timcast because those are going to be very important in the future. In the meantime, we'll read your super chats. Clint Torres, of course, the first super chat says howdy people howdy clint clint says i've i've said it before but i'll say it once more if you are first it's only because i allowed it heavens dang that guy means business alpha turkey says commencements just canceled at usc ripped to class of 2020 2024 yeah because their high school graduations got canceled and then their college graduations It says commencements just canceled at USC, ripped to class of 2020, 2024. Yeah, because their high school graduations got canceled and then their college graduations got canceled. Should have pulled a Tim back in third grade and dropped out.
Starting point is 01:42:31 I'm kidding. Not really. I dropped out freshman year and then did homeschooling and never got my GED or diploma because those don't do anything for you. Tim just canceled. He dropped out of school in kindergarten. He was like, mom, I'm done with this. So the funny thing canceled. He dropped out of school in kindergarten. He was like, Mom, I'm done with this.
Starting point is 01:42:48 So the funny thing was... He said, the teacher is censoring me. She's keeping me in a silo. I'm fucking the top bed. You can go to a community college as soon as you turn 18. You don't need a degree. You can take any classes you want.
Starting point is 01:42:59 You pay cash for them. And so when I'm 16, I'm working at a fast food restaurant. When I'm 17, I don't think i was working at all and then when i turn 18 i'm like so if i just get like a credit hour at this community college i can put down some college on all my job applications done and then i went for like two months and then after that i applied to work at uh american eagle airlines which is aa and they asked me what my highest level of education was and i put some college and they said good my friend who put high school they said bring your diploma and bring your your
Starting point is 01:43:35 paperwork they wanted proof he had one but because i had some college they said you're fine that was it wow yep please tell me you took like a really fun juggling class at community college uh criminal justice oh that's good yeah and i learned about serial killers and stuff because you just graduated right i did yeah i graduated yeah okay congratulations i only went back because they told me i couldn't ah the other thing i would say too is uh i got hired as a director of a non-profit that was a college degree was a requirement. And I did not have one. And I applied anyway. But I was a nation's best fundraiser.
Starting point is 01:44:09 And so I didn't, like it said, you know, college degree required. I submitted a resume. And they called me and they were like, you do know this job requires a college application. And I was like, yeah. And I'm a nation's best fundraiser. Hire whoever you want. They brought me in for an interview. And then I said, they asked me a bunch of questions. I talked to him about my experience. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:44:27 you sound like you know what you're talking about. And they said, but this job does require a college diploma. And I said, sure. If you want to hire a kid fresh out of college with no experience in nonprofit work or fundraising, by all means, do it with my blessing. Congratulations. But if you want to hire a nation's best fundraiser for this position, you hire me. And they went, OK, you're hired. They didn't say it like that. They were like, we'll let you know. And then two days later, they called me and said, we'd like you to work here. So I just I've just always been like, dude, if that piece of paper ain't going to do nothing for you. Anyway, we'll read some more super jets. All right. T-Rex Pet Shop says weird how Dems scream that Republicans are taking away women's
Starting point is 01:45:05 rights but literally take away women's rights as biden changed title nine to include gender identity now boys can take over girl spaces scary also do you see biden's uh largest tax increase in history plan for 2025 what a great guy is his capital gains to i think what, 44.6% and a new 25% unrealized gains tax. It is literally not possible to tax unrealized gains. It's insane. Yeah. So the idea is if you have $25 and you buy 25 shares at $1 from some company, and then a month later, those shares are now worth $1,000. You now have $25,000 worth of shares. They come to you and they say, now you have to pay us 25% of the $24,975 gain you saw.
Starting point is 01:45:58 And you're like, but I don't have any money. I only had $25 and I just have these shares. And they go, sell them. You have to sell what you own to pay the government. Does this extend to property? Does this extend to like a, oh, fantastic. Well, Hunter Biden's going to be screwed. He's got a lot of artwork worth a lot of money. It may not, it may not though. It may specifically be stocks and trades. And it's only for those who have an income of over a million dollars and an investment income of $400,000. Regardless. That's where,000. Regardless.
Starting point is 01:46:25 That's where it starts. Right. The first income tax was a 3% tax on the ultra wealthy or something like that. They were like, it's only for the ultra wealthy. Now we're at what, 39% on the average American? Yeah. Thank God there aren't loopholes like, you know, claiming losses and investing in yourself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:44 But, you know, that's not a loophole. That's the intended position. Oh, yeah. So when, I explained this in a segment earlier, when Biden raises taxes, I go, okay. All that means is that as a business, we have to expand. When the taxes are low, we could be like, we can take it easy.
Starting point is 01:47:01 When taxes are high, it's like, well, might as well hire people and grow the business because otherwise the government just gets your money. So if you have $100,000 profit, think about it. It's like, okay, so the government's going to take 40% of that, leave me with 60K. Okay. That means that if you hire someone at 60K, you have 40K left over, you keep 30K. So you're getting that employee at a discount for 30K because you would have lost the 40 as it was. So now you got a 60K employee at 30K.
Starting point is 01:47:29 That's what they do when they tax things. They just force companies to spend money on investing in anything that could be written off or depreciated. And businesses, I think, I could be wrong. I think you get a million dollars per year in equipment write-offs. So a lot of companies just say, make sure you spend a million bucks a year on equipment
Starting point is 01:47:46 because the equipment retains its value and you don't get taxed on it. Incredible. Yep. Let's go. Kale says, what do you think is a realistic salary for a congressman, senator, Supreme Court justice, and president? I think we should increase their salary
Starting point is 01:48:02 and eliminate their insider trading. Agreed. And I don't know. I think we should increase their salary and eliminate their insider trading. Agreed. And I don't know. I think a salary for a member of Congress, I would probably say Supreme Court justices. I'd like to see maybe, you know, I got to be honest, I think they get like, what, 200 and something? Supreme Court justices? Yeah, I kind of feel like that's good right now. And it really does depend on the market but 300 perhaps for a president he gets 400 and sorry this is saying 298,500 okay good yeah I think that's a decent amount yeah for you you were very close with your guess of 300,000 or well I mean I've read that I read a bunch of news so I knew the number, basically.
Starting point is 01:48:46 President, I think, is 400. You want to fact check that one? Sure. But it hasn't been updated in a long time. The president should probably get, probably at this day and age, a million bucks a year. I think that it's the president, right? We don't want politicians to seek incentives outside of office through favors and deals, so we want them to do well. I think Congress needs to make more money. Absolutely. I don't think
Starting point is 01:49:11 $174,000 is enough. Members of Congress need to have an office. They need to have, they do get money from the government as to how they run their offices and stuff like this, but they have to have a place of residence in their district and in DC. And there are members of Congress who sleep in their offices and they're not supposed to, but they do. People don't understand that it's really expensive to live in DC. And if you're only, if your salary is a member of, like all you do is you're a member of Congress and you're not ultra wealthy, then how will you even afford this? And then it's no surprise only the ultra wealthy become politicians. But I don't, I don don't know if that there's always unintended consequences so i don't know if there's any good answer to that yeah i just don't want to give them any money at all they're so bad with it yep so that so the issue is it some people have
Starting point is 01:49:55 suggested we don't pay them at all it should be a public public service it's like okay then people monetize it in other ways exactly and then i think andrew yang's at a million dollars it's like okay here's an idea. A million dollar a year salary, but you can never work in the private sector again in any way. Don't they vote to give themselves raises? Aren't they actually in control of that? They haven't done it in like 20 years though, right?
Starting point is 01:50:16 I mean, it was- Oh, no, I think it's been- No, they do it pretty frequently, right? Yeah. So they're not worried about their pay. What about this idea? You can never work in the- so once you get elected to Congress, you get a million dollars a year. You get a pension, but you can never work
Starting point is 01:50:28 in the private sector. Hmm. I like that. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. I'm not sure. So the last time they raised their salary was 2009? Because then they'll never do anything useful again. What do you mean? Last time Congress raised their salary was 2009 from $169,300 to $174,000.
Starting point is 01:50:44 Wow. All right. Jonathan Timmons says,300 to $174,000. Wow. All right. Jonathan Timmons says, listen to you guys every night. When can we buy your coffee wholesale? My wife started her bakery, Okidoki Bakery in Oklahoma City, and wants to start offering coffee at some point. I do believe we have wholesale pricing, but I don't know for sure. Maybe go to the website and see if you can send an email.
Starting point is 01:51:02 Owning a bakery is a hallmarkmark or it's like a hallmark movie job and i love it like people who own uh bakeries like boutiques a bookstore you know what i mean like well yeah but you got to be careful then because you know one day when you come back to visit and you got that city slicker husband who's kind of uh rude and hates christmas text during dinner right and then you and then you see that guy from high school who's dreamy and hard-working carpenter and then you realize he was the right guy all along it breaks up your marriage well sometimes if you own the bakery a uh city slicking business guy comes in and he's gruff but then you fall in love with him it's very confusing especially
Starting point is 01:51:37 if she's already married dangerous yeah there's so many movies like that it's kind of wild it's like so brutal yeah isn't it so interesting that there's so much entertainment that encourages people to break their marriages up it's almost as if there's some kind of marxist ideology that's infested our culture i don't know if you watch the great american family channel they're always all single and they like don't kiss they just sort of look each other and fall in love it's amazing there was like a meme that showed all the covers for all the hallmark movies, and they're all basically the same thing.
Starting point is 01:52:07 Yes, it's great. I love it. We used to celebrate long marriages. It used to be something you were proud of. Yeah. It's like, so I'm coming up on my 13th year of marriage. Good for you. And I could not be happier. We are still very much in love. We used to celebrate that. How did you guys meet? Did you meet at a bakery? Does she own a bookstore? Do you love Christmas?
Starting point is 01:52:23 It was actually a blind date. It was a blind date at a bar. I wasn't even supposed to be the guy that was supposed to be there. That guy was sick, so I got called in as a replacement. Just a backup guy. It was a double date. He was an electric salesman. You were the guy who was supposed to be there.
Starting point is 01:52:36 That's the truth. That's providential, man. Yeah, that is true. Well, it was actually kind of cool. So we both were married before going through divorce. You know, she divorced. And she had prayed. She's like, you know, I just, I don't know if I'm going to marry again.
Starting point is 01:52:49 But if I do, like God, like I just, I really want to go to the aquarium. That was kind of a private prayer, right? I show up one day. We're dating for a few weeks. And I plan to take her to Busch Gardens. I have a whole day, lots of fun. I'm on my way over there. And I just can't stop thinking about, I want to go to the aquarium today.
Starting point is 01:53:04 So I show up to the door, knock on the door, like, hey, Susie, what's going on? I was like, do you want to go to the aquarium today. So I show up to the door, knock on the door like, hey, Susie, what's going on? I was like, do you want to go to the aquarium? And she's like, why would you ask me that? Why would you ask me that? We ended up getting married. Because I'm your husband. I know. Exactly right.
Starting point is 01:53:15 So it's just, I don't know. I think we're meant to be together. That's so cool. I love that. Also, that's a Hallmark movie. All right. Paul Tascolo says, all the hypotheticals are ridiculous. The president did something completely, if the president did something completely insane the 20th amendment
Starting point is 01:53:28 would be invoked to remove him the hypotheticals are the steve cream court were making me crazy they were like but what if he accepted a bribe and and gave someone a diplomat like yes these are good ethical concerns but also like let's talk about he gets impeached and removed i don't understand like the way the law works here. It's just like, what if Trump punched a goat? It's like, okay, and then Congress could impeach him. I should have done a cartoon of this, of them just coming up with increasingly absurd hypotheticals.
Starting point is 01:53:57 You still could. Yeah, you still could. Look, team, it's awful. Well, what if Trump got in a blimp and threw a bunch of beach balls at a football game? What if Trump, he tied two cat's tails together, and then he threw them over a telephone wire like a pair of shoes, and they wrapped around it and fought? But they're not saying his name. Then what that?
Starting point is 01:54:19 Then could you do that? They're like, I suppose you'd have to impeach him before. What if Trump went to McDonald's and didn't tip them after ordering a bunch of food? What if that's not against the law? But they're not saying Trump. They're just like the president. We won't say who, but what if the president? What if the president took a large roll of plastic wrap and wrapped someone's car up all the way around it so that when they came to their car, it was covered in plastic wrap.
Starting point is 01:54:45 The attorney has to be like... Could he be prosecuted for that? That would be an official... Part of his official duty, so... It could be! What if he had secret medical experiments where they were replacing people's arms with their legs and legs with their arms?
Starting point is 01:54:59 Could he do... Would he be able to do that? Is that something that could be allowed? You have to read this cartoon. And then one of the questions has to be... be able to do that? Is that something that could be allowed? You have to read this cartoon. And then one of the questions has to be something. And then a guy comes up who's got arms, who's got legs for arms. It's gotta be a question.
Starting point is 01:55:13 This is a serious issue. There's gotta be a question of something that they want to do. And they're like, what if there was like a judge who wanted to buy a car and give the car to his girlfriend his wife didn't know about. Could the president
Starting point is 01:55:27 be impeached for that? Could justice be impeached? Would I be able to do that? Does immunity extend to us? Does it? Yeah. You should make that cartoon. Just ask him
Starting point is 01:55:39 about his weird hypotheticals. Because every once in a while one of them would be like, well, what about, you know, when the president interned Japanese people and they'd be like back to the hypothetical scenarios why if it says tim the students and professors are calling for intifada they keep saying from the river to the sea and they are being led by groups that directly support hamas crowder covered this in detail this week i i agree i i think i think they have to be arrested here's a question for you you've said you know we tolerate all the speech but hamas is a terrorist organization and they're
Starting point is 01:56:12 out there banging pots and pans saying they directly support hamas in fact there was one video i saw of a woman saying they're trying to raise money for hamas and then she quickly goes for for gaza so some guy was like Hamas. You like Hamas. And then she said something like, yeah. And he was like, I forgot exactly what it was. It was a man on the street interview. And then she was like, we're trying to raise money for them for Palestine. So it's like if you're if you're raising money for a terrorist organization, you go to jail for that.
Starting point is 01:56:39 Right. Could the president if he wanted, could he raise money if he wanted for a terrorist organization? Would that be allowed? The president, we won't say who, but you know which one. If the president wanted to. And then they've asked questions about things that Biden have done. He gave all those weapons to the Taliban. If a president say
Starting point is 01:56:58 sniffed a young child, is he immune? No, no, no. It would be Biden. It would cut to like a black and white, just a black silhouette, you know what I mean? Behind the camera. So like if I went to sniff and I got out of the
Starting point is 01:57:15 shower to try to grab my dog and I fell, man. No, no. It's got to cut to Biden. And he's like, it's like a van outside and he's in it. And he has a microphone, and then he goes, what if I, like, sniffed a child? And then it zooms right in to, like, Kagan with an earpiece, and she goes, what if I, like, sniffed a child? Hypothetically, what is the oldest age you should be showering with your daughter? I'm just going to—
Starting point is 01:57:43 Oh, my gosh. You've got to put the crisis in that one the thing is i would i would i feel like for biden there's two courses of action you could bounce back and forth like really actually horrible things he's done but then like questions a child would ask because that's who joe byler what could he have fruit snacks for breakfast what about two scoops of ice cream? Yeah, ice cream for dinner. Is that allowed? And then, and then, and it's like Kagan, and she's just saying these things. And then he goes, I'll have the black and white milkshake.
Starting point is 01:58:17 And then she just goes, and I will have a black and white milkshake. And they're like, Justice Kagan, I'm sorry. Yeah. All right, we'll grab some more. And then we got to make the corrupt criminal. No, no, no, no. We got it. Yeah. We got to do the rock opera.
Starting point is 01:58:29 A hundred percent. We have to do the rock opera. A hundred percent. Guys, subscribe to Freedom Toons if you want to see this cartoon. All right. Here we go. Legama says, proud American Jew here. I always opposed woke because it was immoral to demonize whites.
Starting point is 01:58:40 I realize it's ironic how only now the mindless normies finally get it with woke Hitler youth shrieking about Juden. Normies now get that it's a Maoist moment. Let's make lemonade. Yep.
Starting point is 01:58:55 All right, here we go. We'll grab, we'll grab maybe one more super chat. Let's see what we got. So we'll scroll down. All right. Cain Abel says, after Trump is out of office, the deep state will just undo what we got. So we'll scroll down. All right. Cain Abel says,
Starting point is 01:59:05 after Trump is out of office, the deep state will just undo what Trump did. There should be no consensus. The deep state needs to be removed. That means that the night is not yet as dark as it could become. And should it get darker, people will greatly regret it.
Starting point is 01:59:21 Right now, you can sit in your living room, order a pizza, play Fallout 76 with your friends. The games apparently are flying off the shelves figuratively because they don't have shelves anymore and they're all just being downloaded digitally but you get my point after the show came out it's like five million down like some ridiculous amount of downloads for all the games look man i gotta be honest there we are we have a golden opportunity with this country, but I fear that it's about to be lost. I mean, for how many years were we able to sit around and play video games and watch movies and enjoy ourselves and have your family? And, you know, we had things that previous generations never had.
Starting point is 02:00:00 I worry now it's not possible anymore. That you're either going to live in the pot and eat the bugs or you're going to be waving a Trump flag and both sides are not going to tolerate the other. But you know what? We've got a big story for the Members Only show. I talked about it a bit at six, but we'll go over it now. A guy in Baltimore used AI to create a hate crime hoax. He used the principal of a school's voice to make him say racist things. So it hath begun. And we'll talk about that. But first, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel,
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Starting point is 02:02:44 Real quick, there's a story that I'm seeing going around. guys thank you so much for everything bye serge see you guys thanks for coming adam so uh real quick there's a story that i'm seeing going around i we're going to talk about this one in the members only show because we're about to jump to it but uh in ohio a black man was being arrested they kneeled on him and he said i can't breathe and he died. And so this story is from today. And there's a video of it happening as the man says, I can't breathe. Considering the protests that are already happening. So become a member at TimCast.com. We're going to talk about this one. And maybe it maybe will matter.
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