Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1016 GOP & Dems Pass 'Antisemitism Bill' Sparking OUTRAGE Over Free Speech w/Lisa Reynolds

Episode Date: May 2, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil & Serge are joined by Lisa Reynolds to discuss the US House passing an antisemitism bill with overwhelming bipartisan support, a brawl at UCLA after counter protestors clash w...ith Anti-Israel protestors, Nate Silver revealing a poll that shows people use politics as a way to fit in, and a bombshell report released by James O'Keefe exposing the CIA admitting to interfering with Trump's presidency. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Democrats and Republicans have passed the anti-Semitism bill, which basically says, hey, look, anti-Semitism is already a violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, so these schools got to start enforcing this. It basically reiterates what's already existing in executive order, but codifies it in law. The problem? Thomas Massey points out the definition of anti-Semitism doesn't actually exist in the bill. It just refers to a website with a long list of things it defines as antisemitism.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Now, I suppose where it gets bad, where it gets worse, is if they decide to change the definition of antisemitism at another time. Some have construed this as direct criticism of Israel being considered antisemitism because it says that if you call the creation or maintenance of Israel racist, that is anti-Semitism itself. So we'll talk about that. Plus, violent clashes erupted last night and in the early hours of the morning as pro-Israel and or maybe not even necessarily pro-Israel, but counter protesters to the pro-Hamas group at UCLA started fighting when the counter protesters came in and started ripping down their barricades.
Starting point is 00:01:08 The protesters started resisting and they all started fighting each other. Then the police came in, a bunch of arrests. And of course, the NYPD now confirming, yeah, the people who took over that building in New York, they mostly weren't even students. So I can't say I'm surprised. Some news outlets have identified some of the paid agitators who were actually there. And then, of course, James O'Keefe has a massive expose, a CIA agent claiming, bragging about how they intentionally subverted Donald Trump, refused to provide him with intelligence so he could not act upon it because they claim he's a Russian. So we'll talk about that. And then in good news, a bunch of these frat boys defended the American flag from the far left extremists. They've now raised over $200,000 on behalf of these young men to throw a rager, I guess, to support them and their frat because they stood up for the American flag. It's a heartwarming story in the face of all of this anger and violence.
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Starting point is 00:04:03 wondering, Matt Gaetz was originally scheduled, but Congress stuff happens and happens all the time. This is why we usually don't like to announce well in advance when we're having guests, because especially members of Congress, but we're big fans of Matt Gaetz. Shout out to his work. He was unable to make it tonight, but Lisa's filling in. I'm Matt tonight. You're Matt. I'm Matt. So what do you do? I think everybody knows you. Yeah, everybody pretty much knows me. I basically book for your show, The Culture War.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Tune in on Fridays at 10 a.m. We've got some really cool stuff coming up, actually, down the pipeline. But you've also worked on the Hill. I have. I worked on the Hill for 12 years, right? And I worked in Middle East foreign policy for two years, too. People forget that. That's actually kind of convenient you're here.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yeah. Because everyone's going to complain about AIPAC now. And then we'll get to hear about what was really going on behind the scenes yeah exactly yeah I actually um helped write the policy that defunded UNRWA back in 2018 for the Trump administration not a lot of people know that but oh well yeah all right we got Phil hanging out hello everybody my name is Phil Labonte I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary what's going on Hannah Clare hey I'm Hannah Clare Brimel I'm a writer for scnr.com that's scanner news I'm Hannah Clare Brimel. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. That's Scanner News.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I'm really happy to be back. Hi, Serge. Well, Phil, I forgot something. There's a link in the description below. Oh, yes. There is a link in the description below tonight to the pre-save, the new single from All That Remains.
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Starting point is 00:05:47 I remember the rough mixes you were sending back and I was like, wow. We were all super impressed. So we're really excited for this. And anyway, Serge is here. Yes, I am. You're Mike. Oh, are you going to?
Starting point is 00:05:56 I already did that at school. All right. Well, let's just jump to the story then. Here it is, ladies and gentlemen, from NBC News. House passes anti-Semitism bill with broad bipartisan support amid campus arrests. The Anti-Semitism Awareness Act would require the Education Department to adopt the definition of anti-Semitism used by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance. Oh, boy. Wow. It passed with 320 to 91.
Starting point is 00:06:24 21 Republicans and 70 democrats voted against the legislation i'm actually surprised me too to see uh as many democrats vote against it i'm not surprised by the republicans but the democratic party is pushing very heavily away from israel so i guess it's not really that surprising they say the bill titled the antisemitism awareness act would mandate that the Education Department adopt the broad definition of antisemitism used by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, an intergovernmental group to enforce anti-discrimination laws. The international group defines antisemitism as a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred towards Jews. I mean, that's actually very vague. The group adds that rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism include such things as calling for the killing or harming of Jews or holding Jews collectively responsible for actions taken by the state of Israel.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I mean, some of these things are fair, right? The problem is, we have the bill pulled up. I'll throw it to Thomas Massey. He says, today the House will vote on a bill to define anti-Semitism with the intent to increase prosecutions of activity on campuses. The bill has a problem beyond violating the First Amendment. The definition of anti-Semitism appears nowhere in the bill. To find the legally adopted definition of anti-Semitism, one must go to the website below. Not only is the definition listed here, but one also finds specific examples of anti-Semitic speech. Are those examples made part of the law itself? Do you agree with all of these examples of anti-Semitism? Should people in America be prosecuted for saying these things in all contexts? I think not. This is a poorly conceived, unconstitutional bill, and I will vote no. Well, here we are. The bill is passed. And a few
Starting point is 00:08:06 important things to point out. It says Title 6 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, etc., etc. They go on to mention that there's already, I think, here we go. On December 11, 2019, Executive Order 13899 extended protections against discrimination under the 1964 Civil Rights Act to individuals subjected to anti-Semitism, anti-Semitism on college and university campuses and tasked federal agencies to consider the IHRA working definition of anti-Semitism when enforcing the Title VI of such act. Now, that's under Donald Trump. What we have here, I'll pull up Matt Walsh. Here's how he puts it. The vast majority of Republicans just voted for a bill to criminalize criticisms of the Israeli government. If the bill passes, you will be guilty of hate speech if you apply double standards to the government of Israel or accuse it of genocide. This is honestly one of
Starting point is 00:09:01 the most insane pieces of legislation I have ever seen. A few examples, and then we'll just jump into it. And some of these I think are okay. It's like some of these are calling for aiding or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of an ideology. Like, yeah, okay, I get that. The ones that Matt brings up, denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination by claiming that the existence of a state of Israel is a racist endeavor. That's actually pretty wild to say you are in violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act if you think Israel is racist.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I mean, that's an opinion on a state government. They say applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation. Now, look, I rag on people with what I describe as Israel derangement syndrome, but I think it's fair for people to have concerns. Like if you are, if you are critical or concerned with one government or one issue, that that's not wrong. You're allowed to care about, you know, I made, I made the joke earlier. Can we talk about Myanmar instead? You're allowed to only care about the Philippines. You're allowed to only care about Japan. You're allowed to only care about the Philippines. You're allowed to only care about Japan. You're allowed to only care about the United States. It's actually pretty crazy that they're trying to say that's anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Using the symbols and images associated with classic anti-Semitism to characterize Israel or Israelis, drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the nazis this is literally saying criticizing israel's policies and and drawing comparisons to nazis this would be a violation of the 1964 civil rights act under this new law so two things right first of all hate speech is protected speech by the First Amendment, you can hate, right? And you don't need new laws to wrap up every single one of those moron commies for trespassing. None of that is... You can wrap every single one of them up and throw them in jail.
Starting point is 00:11:01 You don't need a new law. Yeah, you don't need a new law. You don't need something that Congress passes. You don't need a new law. You don't need a new law. You don't need something that Congress passes. You don't need a law that is unquestionably in violation of the First Amendment. You know the reason they're doing it, right? You know why this bill was even put forth. It's for Republicans to message on the bill like, hey, Jews out there, we're here. We support you, left or right, right?
Starting point is 00:11:23 And it's the democrats that aren't and so what we're going to do is we're going to force it to be on biden to say you know yes or no or whatever and try to put him in a put him in a corner or put this administration in a corner and like we're the people that are doing something this is it's a messaging bill which that's why i was surprised it wasn't a resolution it was an actual bill but that that's that's what it's for but it's horrible it already accomplishes the political goal 70 democrats voted against it and the funny thing is i don't i don't agree with why they voted against it which is the funny thing because they have ideological reasons for doing so but it was right to vote against it so i'll'll take it. And now Democrats are going to be look, I will tell you this.
Starting point is 00:12:08 MSNBC and Fox News are aligned. This is the funniest thing imaginable. I'm seeing tweets from Morning Joe that are like these anti-Israel protesters. And then I turn on Fox News and they're like, these anti-Israel protesters are so. But it was it's crazy when on fox news so you had these clashes last night in the early hours of the morning where anti like anti-hamas pro-israel groups are tearing down the fortifications of the far left groups and the phrasing of fox news is that these people were simply defending their community and i'm like that's that's it's it's fascinating that two
Starting point is 00:12:43 groups are fighting at a university. And I get it. The far left took land. They barred people from entering. They were blocking students from getting in. But my point is not to say that Fox is wrong or to get into the moral argument. It's that MSNBC and Fox agree. That blew my mind.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And now you've got a bipartisan support for this bill. Amazing. See, that just makes me nervous, right? When our politicians and our media are all lining up behind something, I feel like we should be concerned about it. In this case, I really do think that this is obviously a violation of the First Amendment. I mean, I think that hate speech laws are already usually a violation of the First Amendment. I can understand the intention to be like, we want to protect people and we want people to feel like they're not being targeted. But this, I think, is a complete misstep on Congress's part. And the thing is,
Starting point is 00:13:30 if we pass bills that were like, well, this is the, you know, you can't say things about against white people, you can't say things against, you know, this group and this group, whatever, it seems sort of ridiculous and redundant. I don't think that we should be singling out ethnic groups like this when we already have laws in the book that protect people from this kind of like from potential violence. It's redundant. But we also it's the same thing with the BLM stuff. And everything's racist. Now it's like everything's anti-Semitic. You can't have a conversation. And it's not everything. But a lot of things have been turning into that, like the Christ is King thing. People have been saying that for a really long time.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Now, yes, some people will use it to piss off Jews. OK, fine. But these words have existed this way forever. And it's not anti-Semitic if somebody's a church and they're like, you know, Christ is king. And I just don't feel comfortable with the idea that we would be like, well, you can't criticize this one country's government. This country's an exception. Criticize everyone else, but not this one.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Partially because I think that list would grow. There are certain countries that are allowed to operate without criticism, and that's not free speech. I'm going to need some help from the audience on this one.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Maybe someone in the room can help me. Is there any other policy, any law that was enacted that says you can't criticize the policy decisions of another nation by comparing to the Nazis? Like, is there a bill anywhere that says you can't criticize the policy decisions of another nation by comparing to the nazis like is there a bill anywhere it says like you can't claim the japanese are like the nazis or something not that i can okay because the point is then we have a double standard of course
Starting point is 00:14:55 and so uh so i i just love this okay it says can we let's pull this one from matt walsh this is from the ihra applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation. And also drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of Nazis. That's it's it's it's it's almost oxymoronic. It's contradictory. And I suppose that means this bill itself is anti-Semitic because it is requiring a standard of Israel that you cannot criticize them if you cannot criticize their policies to that of the Nazis, but you could for literally any other nation.
Starting point is 00:15:34 That's a double standard. That's requiring something of Israel that no other nation is subjected to. So this bill itself is actually anti-Semitic. It makes sense to me. I mean, the thing is, I am wary of definitions created by a special interest group that are the main core tenet of a bill
Starting point is 00:15:51 like this, right? That's almost all bills, though, just so you know. I know it, but that doesn't mean I can't be critical of it, right? Obviously, anyone who is specifically here to represent the groups of special interest, totally fine. That might be your right as a lobbying group or whatever. But I think every senator or any congressman who is like, well, we should just go with it. That seems like they don't serve their people.
Starting point is 00:16:13 So it was Candace that was just on with that Rabbi Barclay, right? Who, by the way, I had an hour and a half conversation with him a couple of days ago, honestly. And in that conversation, though, he said that the definition of anti-Semitism is changeable and it morphs and it changes over time and people use it in different ways. And, you know, I understand what he was saying in that, you know, that people do different things now and say different things, but it's still out of their hatred for the Jews. Fine. But like if you're if all these groups are saying that the definition is morphing all the time then anything can be anti-semitic and that's not it's like gender you know that changes all the time too i'm gonna need some help from christians this one confused me it says using the symbols and images associated
Starting point is 00:16:57 with classic anti-semitism e.g claims of jews killing jesus okay the rom Romans killed Jesus, that's why. Right, right, right. But why did the Romans... But the Jews turned them in. Well, what they're going to say, the explanation that they're going to say, the answer is going to say the Romans killed them and it wasn't the actual Jews that did it.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Okay, all right. If we're talking about the technicality of it, it's funny, I guess. My understanding is that the belief of Christians is that the Jewish leaders in the region basically said, of the Romans, he's a blasphemer, and he should be held criminally liable for this.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And then I believe it was, was it Pontius Pilate? Yeah. He came out and said, okay, you can choose to free one person. Was it Barabbas? Yeah, a murderer. The murderer, or Jesus. And they're like, the murderer, not him. And so then Jesus was lashed, and then, if I'm wrong about that, I And they're like, the murderer, not him. And so then, like, Jesus was lashed.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And then, if I'm wrong about that, I just don't know. It's my general understanding. So the interpretation by, actually, I think of Vivek Ramaswamy, a fake Vivek Ramaswamy, actually, not the real one, responded, saying it criminalizes a simple aspect of reading the Bible under the guise of combating anti-Semitism. Because I assume this is correct, the interpretation of many Christians is that it was the Jewish leaders who orchestrated the death of Jesus. I mean, this is what Matt Gaetz is saying. If you have his tweet available, I can send it to you if you want. He says the gospel itself would meet the definition. Which one was it again? Rhett Matt Gaetz. Yeah, he quotes the Bible in his secondary tweet on that too. Yeah, he says
Starting point is 00:18:22 the gospel itself would meet the definition of anti-Semitism under the terms of this bill, right? Like, this bill, you know, I think part of it is the pressure that these protests are putting on lawmakers to act and have some sort of grandiose grandstanding where they're like— The same thing with Harvard when they finally, you know, let Claudine Gay go, pretending it wasn't for what we all know it was for. They were like, but we're going to keep the anti-Semitism task force because, you know, we're taking it seriously if we formed a bureaucratic task force to deal with something. That's how you know. So we have this. This is the tweet from Matt Gaetz.
Starting point is 00:18:53 He says, this evening, I will vote against the ridiculous hate speech bill called the anti-Semitism awareness act. And now you know why he couldn't be here. So shout out to Matt Gaetz. We're big fans. He's the best member of Congress, in my opinion. Thomas Massey is up there, too. And we disagree on things, but Thomas Massey is pretty great.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Antisemitism is wrong, but this legislation is written without regard for the Constitution. He says the gospel itself would meet the definition of antisemitism under the terms of this bill. He goes on to say, Acts 4.10. Be it known to you all and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by him this man is standing before you well. Then you have Thessalonians 2, 14 to 16. I'm skipping through a little bit. Lord Jesus and the prophets and Acts 3, 14 and 15, you denied the holy and righteous one and asked for a murderer to be granted to you and killed the author of life whom God raised from the dead. To this we are witnesses. Now, I am not stating that. I'm simply reading Bible passages from a member of Congress who is saying this bill would make the Bible itself an act of
Starting point is 00:20:01 antisemitism. And so what? Now, if you go to the university and you read those passages, they could charge you or fine you under the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Would this mean that at these universities, if a professor reads these passages, the university is now in violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act?
Starting point is 00:20:19 I mean, I gotta be completely honest. If that's the case, then the Quran is banned as well. Because the Quran says much, much more than this. We were talking about this the other night. The Quran has numerous statements. And don't get me started on the Hadith. The Hadith would not be allowed anywhere. So this bill, ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:20:39 And it would disproportionately affect Christian universities, right? If you're an explicit Christian university, that's part of, you know, the course curriculum as well as, you know, student code of conduct or whatever else, like there is a probable chance that you're more likely than just any university to quote these kinds of passages and therefore be, you know, in the crosshairs of the Department of Education, which, you know, if we reelect Joe Biden would go after you. The good thing is it's unlikely to get through the Senate and actually pass the Senate. You think? Yeah, I think that.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Yeah, because everybody's going to be talking about it and it's a violation. And then if anybody gets charged under it, it'll go to the Supreme Court. I just think that they'll they're going to hold it for a while, maybe not even bring it to the floor, not get it out of markup and see. And I just don't I don't see it. I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if every Republican starts virtue signaling saying we must pass this bill and trying to put pressure on Democrats because the goal, as you said, is a messaging bill to make it look like Democrats won't support the Jewish community. Yeah, I could see that. But like, I still don't think it's going to I just have a feeling that it's not going to make it through. I think that that would be egregious. That's just me, though. Or if it did, would Biden sign it?
Starting point is 00:21:48 I mean, I feel like he would kind of have to because that's the point of the bill and the voting block that he's courting now currently with the policies that they're kind of pushing for. Well, and he can't be the president that, you know, made the economy terrible, banned TikTok and then voted against the anti-Semitism bill. Like there's no way even his advisors can see that that messaging is bad. Yeah, it's probably. I also. Even though this bill is bad and I think he shouldn't sign it.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I just want to be clear on that. I think Republicans know it's a bad bill. They wanted to get the message out. They got the message out. They put them on the defensive and that's all they really need. I think that's a stupid risk to take. Honestly, I get what you're saying. I totally agree with you. I think that is part of it. They want to be the ones who are like, look, we're on your side. Vote for us. But I just think it's, you know, that is to put forward
Starting point is 00:22:37 bills that are bad, that hurt your First Amendment protections and just pass it off as like, oh, well, we wanted to seem like we were on the right side of history. Like, no, thank you. But it is working. I mean, when I go out with James and we're like filming people on the street, I've run into Jewish people in Philadelphia and they're like, we hate Trump. We hate Trump. But what's going on with Israel? We're going to vote for him. Michael Rapaport. Yeah, exactly. Look at this guy. I mean, he he he was so into making videos hating Trump. He made fun of himself for making fun of Trump so much. That's how much he Yeah, exactly. Let's jump to this next story and we'll give some examples of what's going on. From the AP, violence, chaos erupts on campuses as protesters and counter-protesters clash over the war in Gaza. So counter-protesters forcefully attacked a pro-Palestinian encampment at the University of California, Los Angeles early Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:23:37 And activists clashed with police officers who destroyed their tents at the University of Wisconsin in Madison. As part of a series of escalating violence on some college campuses over the war in Gaza, 15 people were injured during the UCLA confrontation, including one person who was hospitalized, according to the president of the University of California system. The cataclysm unfolded Wednesday after police burst into a building occupied by anti-war protesters. Pause. Anti-war? I'm not accepting that. Leftists, communist protesters at Columbia University, many of which weren't even students, breaking up a demonstration that paralyzed the school. Now, the funny thing is, I got to mention this. There's a tweet I think is from Cenk Uygur, and he's like, it was these violent pro-Israel groups that came and attacked the peaceful protesters. And I was like, I just love love this i love this so much okay so here's what happens a group of people slowly start settling on land that doesn't belong to them and then decide they're going to put up barricades to keep the people who originally were using that space out then
Starting point is 00:24:38 the people who originally there get angry and fight back trying to tear down the barricades attacking those who are now occupying that land. And the irony is lost on all of them. It was funny though, I had some tweets and they're like, that sounds like Hamas. And I'm like, you figured it out, huh? So the pro-Palestine group takes over the school grounds, put up barricades and were barring people from getting in
Starting point is 00:25:00 unless you supported their cause, then they would give you a wristband. Nope, they'd read wristbands. a bunch of jewish students were like no i won't support like that you can't come in it's like i go to school here club is yep and they're like no they won't let you in so a bunch of these kids got mad and they formed a group and they shut up in the morning and they started tearing down the barricades they started picking up the metal barricades pulling pulling things down when the pro hamas side and i and I'm not going to mince words, it's the pro-Hamas side, started resisting. Then I believe it's fair to say, I don't know who started what,
Starting point is 00:25:35 but I believe from the videos I've seen, it was the counter demonstrators who started attacking the pro-Hamas group. Yeah, it looked that way to me. I heard from a reporter that was on the ground that they were all really cool. They were just like a bunch of people that were either harassed earlier in the day that came back because they were pissed about what happened. He said there were some Israelis, but they were a lot of just kids that got harassed earlier in the day that didn't want to be a part of it and that were sick of it, that just wanted, you know, class to go on. I just say don't go start fights like the police needed to go in and deal with this from the get-go. And this happens because the cops refused to do anything.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Did you see them throw a firework in there? They threw it into the ground? They threw it over and into the ground. Like, yeah, that's dangerous. I think it was Cassandra who said this. It looks like a pro-Israel Antifa faction and an anti-Israel antifa faction fighting each other with antifa tactics and i was like it does it really does yeah that's who these people are you
Starting point is 00:26:29 how you can't deny that these same people were the same people like that are in this camp were the same people that were marching with blm of course they were for a fact there we know i mean it's already it's already been reported but even then some of these some of the people who are there who are who are paid organizers are well-known. Like I was saying the other night, we call them the tourists at Occupy Wall Street. New York Post reported on one woman, and we'll make her infamous, I guess. Not that I want to give her attention or anything, but she was well-known during Occupy. Her name is Lisa Fithian.
Starting point is 00:26:59 And they reported she has appeared in Turkey as well, organizing protests. And you wonder how it is that these people are involved in international protest movements and organizations, and they're getting paid to do it. Someone's funding this. Outside of what she does, which is like activist trainings and things like that, so they report, there are a handful of other people who have been to China, of all places, who are in Ukraine, who are in a bunch of these places, who are in Venezuela and Brazil, and we call them the tourists. Some people speculate they're feds. I don't know that they're feds. Some people think they're CIA because, you know, they're going off into foreign lands and fomenting revolution and things like that. I don't know that I agree with that. I don't know. All I know is it's funny to see activists in the United States training people to protest, how to avoid legal consequence. And then it's like, oh, by the way, that person
Starting point is 00:27:45 was also in China doing the same thing. This person was also in Turkey. That person was in Brazil. And you're like, that's kind of weird. You know what I mean? What are these what's going on here? I will say, however, I don't know that this clash right now, this is like when you get general pro Trump versus anti Trump factions fighting in the street, I get worried about how far this could escalate. But really with like the Israel issue, I don't even think it registers in the top 10 for the average voter. So it's like the people who are fighting the pro-Hamas side were just people who were barred from their school by this, you know, leftist communist faction. I don't see this spreading or escalating into street violence beyond that. I think it is.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Maybe with cops. Yeah, I think it is really centralized at the universities. And I think the average voter, this may not be a pressing issue, but it is for young voters. And they are having different differing levels of effectiveness. You know, Brown University agreed that the pro-Palestine protesters agreed to break down their encampment because the Brown University board agreed to vote on divesting from Israel. You know, theoretically, the board could be like, and we're not going to do it. And they'll bring back the protest. But they are having, you know, they did get at least a vote.
Starting point is 00:28:59 There is some some forward progress there. I think I think it's a it's a weird stance for people to be in because it's a foreign war that is really captivating the hearts and minds of young progressive leftists. And it's splitting them from older Democrats who they would have, you know, especially these Ivy universities. These were their job connections. These were their, you know, future employment. And so it hurts the Democratic Party more than anybody else. And I think that's why I think, in a certain level, I'm sort of like, just let them fight it out. Obviously, violence is bad. You want to be careful of that.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I think the universities have a right to kick people off their processing. I think the protesters have a right to protest. But it's contained really to what I think of as the the heart and soul of progressive academia elite universities across the country I don't really see this breaking out you know in the middle of a major city at random over the summer not now maybe a couple years down the road but like because like Samuel Huntington's clash of the clash of civilizations like I think that's inevitably where we'll go. But these teachers, the professors are lining up arms and arms with like orange vests on and they're participating
Starting point is 00:30:11 in this. I saw some professor that was tweeting out, I think it was Brown or Columbia or something, but she was like, they can't do this. This is, you know, stay strong or whatever. Like these teachers are escalating the situation. They're not calming it down. They're not making it better. I want to know what happens to the professors that are egging this on, that are actively participating. Are they going to be fired? And I want to know how many are tenured.
Starting point is 00:30:37 How many of them are theoretically impossible to remove from your position? But you're committing crimes. They don't want to. The teachers, they fire. It's going to be difficult to replace and then they have to worry about losing customers and they don't want to have their customers arrested they're trying to figure out how to maximize their revenue streams so the problem right now with like ucla and these other universities is if the protests become come to the point where people stop wanting to come to the school,
Starting point is 00:31:05 you lose money. But if you arrest and remove or expel these students, you lose money, too. So they got to do that cost benefit analysis. If we expel 100 students right now, how much do we lose? If we let them keep doing whatever they want, do we lose less? And and how many people will decide not to apply to our school if we get labeled the one that was anti-Palestine? None of the Jewish ones.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It's interesting because I think this – US News and World Report always puts out this ranking of colleges every year. And part of it has to do with enrollment and how many students choose to stay at the schools. Like if you suspend all of these students who are actively participating, but then the other ones who weren't actively participating, but are going to take a holier than thou stance and say, actually, I believe in this issue 100%. So I'm going to transfer away from your school. I mean, you could see a real shift in how these universities are valued
Starting point is 00:31:55 by the system that they rely on to maintain their dominance in education. But they also care about their endowments and the endowment money isn't coming from- That's true. Yeah, it's coming from, like, what, Bill Ackman? Yeah, like, it's not coming from the pro-Palestinian side, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:32:10 It's coming from the pro-Israel side, so... I think Bill Ackman just gave 10 grand to those frat boys who defended the flag. Yeah. So he's basically throwing his money down on the other side, because he was woke before, wasn't he? Mm-hmm. Was that his story? I think so. He was lefty, at least. Look, I'm down.
Starting point is 00:32:29 It's fine. I'm not a fan of the anti-Semitism bill because it's vague and it conflates criticizing a government with anti-Semitism. Just because it violates the First Amendment. Easy enough. Look, if people can hate, if you, it's not like I advocate hating people, but if you have like, if you have a beef with people, you have the right to hate. Like that's, it's not good. Like it's not good to be like that, but like that's part of being a free person, you know? I'm thinking mathematically, right?
Starting point is 00:32:56 The, the, the sum result of what's going on is going to be more and more people realizing DEI wokeness and this far left stuff is bad. And I don't care why they come to that conclusion. There are a lot of people who are like, oh, only now because Israel is being targeted. These people realize DEI is bad. When they were the ones attacking the cops, I'm like, don't care. I'm going to walk right up to them, reach a
Starting point is 00:33:18 hand out and say, welcome to the fight. That's the lesson from Occupy Wall Street that I love to tell where there were two black dudes talking. One guy was yelling at the other guy saying, why are you here with these white kids? They don't know nothing about our struggle and you're going to help them. And the other guy just said to him is like, oh, you don't understand, man. Now they get it. Now they see what we've been talking about. So I reach out my hand, say welcome to the fight. And now they're standing with me, not the other way around.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I respect it. I'm like 100 percent. If Bill Ackman or any anyone else is now being hand, say, welcome to the fight. And now they're standing with me, not the other way around. I respect it. I'm like, 100%. If Bill Ackman or anyone else is now being like, whoa, is this what universities were doing? My response is, let me show you more. Because once you start to dig down to the rabbit hole, you're gonna realize just how bad it is. I agree. A lot of people didn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And a lot of people on the issue of Israel, it smacked him in the face. Michael Rapoport is my favorite example. He's a funny guy. He's a funny guy. He's a funny guy. He's in the new fallout show. I like his work. And he's just, he hates Trump with a passion.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Then he sees what's going on with these people. And now he's digging deeper and looking into more of what they've been doing and going, whoa, I didn't know that. So the door's been opened. Let him do it. I think so much of this is actually, you know, some of it is driving people to Trump because they see him as, you know, a better option. But I think it's also just driving a lot of voters away from Biden. You know, I've referenced a couple times, but I've been listening
Starting point is 00:34:34 to interviews with young progressive activists, you know, 1920. And there are, you know, a fair number that will say, well, I'm not going to vote at all. Some of them are saying they'll vote for Trump as a protest against Biden because they think he's so awful now. But, you know, Democrats who have prided themselves on being the recipient of the youth vote for so long, they're so good at motivating young people. They just have hit an issue that I do not think they can navigate past. And I think to a certain extent, they're trying to close their eyes and just rush November as soon as possible because they know there's really no way to reach out to these students who are saying, hey, Israel is the aggressor in this war. Israel is doing the wrong thing and win them back over with Biden sort of standing on both sides and putting up a port.
Starting point is 00:35:18 But we're not boots on the ground. Like there's no saving the messaging here. I think sort of the funny thing here is between MAGA and the far left, there is only one faction you could actually convince to support Israel. The MAGA faction, many of them already do just outright support Israel and would absolutely, despite being America first, many of them are like, no, but Israel, I would agree with funding many for religious reasons. However, I would say most of the people who are America first and pro Trump or a large portion, maybe the plurality are like, I don't want to fund foreign wars. I want to fund foreign governments of secure our borders. But if you go to them and you say something like, look at what's going on and you make an argument, there is a possibility some of them might be like, okay, fine, I guess. Whereas the far left will never. So if the deep state wants
Starting point is 00:36:10 to maintain their military policies in the Middle East pertaining to Israel, especially, you can't go left. There's no argument at all. It's just not going to happen. I mean, Trump supporters are not setting up encampments and taking over cities because of funding bills. They're complaining about it on the internet. So it's like you pick your poison, deep state. You can get behind Donald Trump, who you hate and can't stand, but you get a little bit of your military policy.
Starting point is 00:36:38 You go with the left and they're going to occupy cities. They're going to build parks and they're going to defy your your interests i suppose they can go the other way and just ban tiktok though that's kind of their plan right yeah i guess i inhibit the political opinions well i'm going to jump to the story this is a post from nate silver for most people politics is about fitting in true and this breaks it down wonderfully he has polling data on the top issues. Out of 16 issues, what number do you think Israel-Palestine is?
Starting point is 00:37:10 Any guesses? 75. Oh, 1 through 16. 16. 16. 15. 15, yeah. Yeah, I think abortion is 16.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Whoa. No, I could be wrong. I don't know. Let me check. Is it? Student debt. Sorry. No, I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yeah, women's reproductive rights are actually a little bit higher on that one. Could be wrong. I don't know. Let me check. Is it? Student debt. Sorry. No, I was wrong. Yeah. Women's reproductive rights actually a little bit higher on that one. But inflation among 18 to 29 year olds, 64%. Isn't that crazy? That's really actually a white pill because young people being aware of what the government is doing to the value of the money that they're making is important. Because the biggest problem that we have, I don't care what anyone says about Israel or whatever, the biggest problem we have is our unfunded liabilities, Medicare and Medicaid. Those
Starting point is 00:37:56 things will actually destroy the dollar. They will destroy the country. It doesn't matter what happens in Israel with Gaza and with Israel at all to us if the dollar is destroyed. And that is 100% a possibility if we don't have a responsible government actually with responsible monetary policy. We were able to spend and print money like we did when the economy was growing because of the growth. Without that growth, we can't keep printing money like we have been. And you see the inflation and you also see the interest rates are not actually controlling inflation like they want. It's really, really bad. And that's something that everyone needs to really pay more way more attention i just a white bill in my opinion i just love how no demographic cares about uh student debt at all among uh 18 to 29 year olds 26 men 24 females 27 white 24 black 31 hispanic 25 democrats 29 republicans 22 independence 26 nobody cares and biden just canceled more student debt for a bunch of art students or whatever Hispanic, 25. Democrats, 29. Republicans, 22. Independents, 26. Nobody cares.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And Biden just canceled more student debt for a bunch of art students or whatever. I don't see what the point is. But inflation at 64%, everybody cares about it. That is great news. But of course, Israel, Palestine is way down here at the bottom. And it looks like
Starting point is 00:39:21 Democrats have the highest at 37%. That's it. It's funny. And that's how you know online is not real life. And it looks like it looks like Democrats have the highest at 37 percent. That's it. It's funny. And that's how, you know, like online is not real life because that's all you see. I mean, I am so sick of talking about Israel, Palestinians. I'm so sick of it. And that's all you see.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Yet when you go talk to the average person on the street, they have they're not even aware that this is even that big of a conversation. They know that. But it's why I mean, it's the same thing that chat? It's not that big of a deal. You guys can stop going on and on about Israel. No one cares. But I think part of it is universities are also micro, like the internet, right? One person starts talking about something and it starts to seem everywhere. That's, again, why these protests are jumping from campus to campus as opposed to suddenly, you know, no one is going into the streets of Akron, Ohio and saying, you must divest. Like they're only doing that at universities for
Starting point is 00:40:09 a reason. And I think that Phil's totally right. You know, they used to say, you know, you know, young people are Democrats, and then they get their first paycheck and say, how many taxes come out? And they're like, wait a minute. Now I don't want taxes. I'm a Republican. And I think the effect of that now, the more modern take is inflation. If you're young and trying to establish a strong financial future, it feels impossible right now because everything costs more every single year. And even if you have a good job, the money, the cost of living rises so dramatically that, you know, if you're working your first job out of college and you're making, you know, something that's like fair amount, it feels even less every single year, even if you get small raises. It's impossible. you get just to buy a car, forget the house and all that, like by the car,
Starting point is 00:40:49 insure the car, car insurance went up by like 25%. You know, grocers are up constantly. You can't think about the future. And again, that's, that's all that the Republicans in every state need to campaign on right now, immigration, inflation. And this is something that young people are really resonating with because they are faced with the fallout of the Biden economy. So Nate Silver says his theory is there's two main drivers of political beliefs, personal self-politics and self-interest, like rich people want lower taxes and sexually active women want abortion rights. And then he says politics is personal identity. Whose team are you on? But other issues have primarily symbolic stakes.
Starting point is 00:41:25 These service vehicles for individual and group expression, not so much identity politics, but politics as identity. People are trying to figure out where they fit in, who's on their side and who isn't. And this works in both directions. People can be attracted to a group or negatively polarized by it. People have different reasons for arguing about politics and can derive value from a sense of social belonging and receiving reinforcement that the choices are honorable and righteous. And let me just pause you right there, Mr. Nate Silver.
Starting point is 00:41:52 That is predominant among the left and less so among the right. The quote unquote right, as they describe it, is, I don't know, disparate libertarians who don't like Donald Trump. Donald Trump, who is going to be speaking at the LP National Convention, which we'll talk about in a second, which is crazy, but a bunch of different factions, Christians, non-Christians. You've got like post-atheist now where they're like the woke is a new religion. All of the, and you have post-liberal and you have former Democrats, all, and even liberals classical liberals, are now all right wing. They're not on the same team. They're all on the those guys are crazy team.
Starting point is 00:42:31 But the interesting thing about politics as personal identity as well is that that also shows there's umbrellas to these different factions. Something we often would talk to Ian about because he wouldn't seem to understand what left and right meant. Left and right are umbrella terms for the different factions that exist within these spheres of influence. But on the right, people have no problem disagreeing with each other, debating each other and getting along. On the left, it's homogenous. It is fall in line or we will cancel you. Just like at these protests where if you disagree with their insert cause of the day, you could not enter these spaces. But ultimately, I think what we get out of the Nate Silver thing is, obviously, this is what we see with Black Lives Matter and
Starting point is 00:43:10 the pro-Palestine stuff. It doesn't matter what they're saying. They have the exact same tactics. They create a protest against Israel, and they create the People's Library and the People's University. That's what they did during they did during occupy it doesn't matter whether it's the rich black lives matter or israel they all do the exact same thing it is basically burning men for these kids and then you have that viral video where you have that like the people are barricaded in columbia in the hamilton hall and then're like, they're barricading us in. And one woman goes, F you, it's finals. I want to go home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:49 They're basically playing cops and robbers. And they don't realize their real consequences. They're going to go to jail. But that's part of the radicalization process. Yeah, but they'll get
Starting point is 00:43:59 their charges dropped or, you know, they'll be arrested and then when it's time to be arrested. Do you remember when there was the pipeline protest in North Dakota arrested and then when it's time to be you remember when there were the the pipeline protest in north dakota and um i think it's shaylin woodley she's an actress yeah she was in divergent yeah i think so i just remember this clip of her like
Starting point is 00:44:15 handing her phone to her assistant being like keep filming while she got arrested because it's like a badge of honor right being like i'm so in the know and I'm up on the environmental causes and this, that and the other. You know, some people go into protests knowing that potentially getting arrested is a risk. I don't know why the university students would not have thought of that unless they feel like, you know, college campus is a safe space and real life rules don't apply to them there. I'll let you in on some advice. It's fairly obvious to anybody who watches internet video.
Starting point is 00:44:44 If you ask questions at a protest, they kick you out. When you go to these pro-Hamas protests, if you start asking simple things like, what do you think about this? What do you think about that? They're going to be like, okay, enough from you. And they're going to kick you out. I was at a protest in New York when Donald Trump had his seven dangerous countries ban. And they were all protesting. Like someone bullhorning saying Trump is banning Muslims from entering the country. And so there was this woman and this guy that I had met.
Starting point is 00:45:12 And I was like, why is she calling it a Muslim ban, though? Like, honest question, because I know that this ban is like North Korea and Venezuela, too. And they were just like, what's your problem, dude? And I was like, what? And they said, what's your problem? I was like, I don't have a problem. I'm just wondering, is there something about it that's like specifically about Muslims? And they were like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:31 And they just turned around and stopped talking to me. I was like, oh, hey, like it's a cult. Ask questions. They throw you out. But even like so, you know, younger minds are more impressionable and they want to be social and they want to be liked in their peer groups and things like that. But you even see with adults, I know an adult male who refuses to tell his mother and his coworkers that he voted for Trump every time. And he still tells people he's a Democrat, even though he's not and watches this show, watches a ton of other shows. And he's like, but he's afraid to come out because he's like, it'll hurt my business. It'll hurt my relationship.
Starting point is 00:46:05 So think about how younger and impressionable these kids are and they want to fit in and they're already weird because like these are the weird kids. Let's be fair, they're not the cool frat guys that are like laying, getting suntanned by himself, like not caring about what's happening. These are the weird kids. So they already want to be included.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Well, and they're high anxiety, right? They're highly neurotic. And so they're looking for validation a lot of the time. I think part of the issue is that, so a lot of younger voters don't really believe in the two-party system, right? And so they don't necessarily want to identify as Democrat or as a Republican,
Starting point is 00:46:39 but they do have their enclave issues, right? They're radical feminists or they're, you know, whatever it is, they have something that they were like, well They're radical feminists or they're, you know, whatever it is, they have something that they were like, well, because I feel like this very strongly, I'm more likely to vote for this party. And I've done this myself, too. I always think of myself as conservative and, you know, I vote Republican, but I don't necessarily think of myself as Republican. And I think that mentality almost makes it harder for them because they don't want to be associated with the party exactly. But they do also use the party's platform as a litmus test for their friendships.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Right. They don't want anyone. I remember this one girl, this girl I knew back in the day, super leftist. And she told me she would never shop at Walmart because that's where racists shop. What? That doesn't make any sense at all. But it's this idea that people who you don't like act a certain way, and so you go out of your way to avoid even seeming like them, even though you don't even know if you want to be a part of the group that you could potentially be a part of. Weren't there two girls that were just interviewed, and they were like, I don't actually know
Starting point is 00:47:40 why I'm protesting? There was a clip of that just recently, right? Very, very, very well. They don't know what they're doing. It's Burning Man. They just want to have fun. This seems cool. We're going to go hang out in the grass. We're going to put up tents. There's going to be food and drinks, and we're going to read books.
Starting point is 00:47:54 We're going to do story time. And then we're going to bar Jews from coming on campus because that's what they did at UCLA because they wanted you to agree with them, and the Jewish students wouldn't do it. And this is what ultimately leads to these clashes. So here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I'm at the point where I have a question about, you know, for you guys. So these protests, most of the people there have no idea what's going on. Having experience at protests, I imagine if you walk up to the average person, they might even say, oh, I'm not protesting. I was just here to check it out.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And that's like maybe like 40 or 50 percent of the people there were just like, oh, my friends told me they were going to be down here. I'm not really for a protest or anything. I'm just here. They get caught up in those protests. But when people are saying these protests are anti-Semitic, I have to actually wonder, you know, the issue I suppose is if there are 10 people at UCLA who have decided they will not let Jewish students in this place and no one else in the camp will stop them from barring Jewish students, then you basically have a protest that just doesn't like Jews. It just keeps Jewish students, then you basically have a protest that just doesn't like Jews. It just keeps Jewish students out. If a Jewish student walks up, and this is on video, and he's wearing a Star of David, and he says, I'm just trying to go to my class, and they won't let him in.
Starting point is 00:49:14 And the other protesters are in there going, we're not anti-Semitic. We're just critical of Israel. And it's like, well, you know, the people that you are supporting, that you are providing resources for, are blocking a Jewish student from coming in, and you do nothing about it. If you provide resource to someone who is intentionally targeting Jewish students, I'm just going to go ahead and call you all anti-Semitic. I understand there's legitimate criticisms of Israel. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:49:34 But if you've got people who are standing next to you expressing the intent to target Jewish students and you're like, yeah, that's fine. We respect the diversity of tactics. I'm like, okay, well, then you're all anti-Semitic. But they're not just anti-Semitic. I think the greater thing is that they're anti-Semitic, but they're anti-Christian too. There was a video that I had reposted where the guy's like, this is Christian's fault. Like, okay, now we're blaming the Christians, right?
Starting point is 00:49:56 But we're not passing an anti-Christian bill. I just want to point that out. But this isn't like, it's not even about that. They're finding any cause that they can find to riot, to be destructive, because their real goal is destruction of this country. I don't think they even really care that much about what's going on there. It's just an excuse to be able to cause mayhem to break down the systems here. I'm going to give you a good example. There was a, I believe it was a Patriot prayer rally in the Pacific Northwest. And a guy showed up doing, doing Nazi salutes and saying racial slurs. And they threw him out immediately and screamed in his face that get out of here.
Starting point is 00:50:35 You don't represent us. The media then lied and said, look at this guy who was at this rally, but the right had no problem saying, no, you're out. We do not agree with you. The left is like, we're cool with it. And then I'm like, okay, well, look, man, when there's a video of like, it's like six people linking arms and blocking a Jewish student from coming in. There's another one where they have a barricade set up and there's like a couple students standing outside it. And there's just like one guy standing there holding it, not letting him in. And there's not a single response, no rejection of the tactic. I'm just going to go ahead and assume they're all lying, and they literally just conflate any Jewish student with Israel.
Starting point is 00:51:17 And they see it as one thing. That being said, I mean, the anti-Semitism bill saying you can't criticize the Israeli government comparing it to Nazis is anti-Semitic is stupid. It's not stupid, but it also feeds into what these people are saying. Like, oh, you can't see, you can't criticize Israel. God forbid you criticize Israel. Oh, the only reason why they're going into these camps and taking them down, they didn't for Chaz or BLM. It's because it's Israel. See how much control Israel has on the U.S. government.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And so so this is exactly what feeds into that narrative. And Republicans can be out of touch all they want and think it's a messaging bill and they're messaging to these, you know, average independent Jewish voters or even like Jewish voters that are unhappy with the Biden administration and what's going on. But you're also feeding those narratives that the Jews control everything thing. Let's jump to this next story from the post-millennial six figures raised to throw rager for UNC frat boys who protected stars and stripes from Gaza protesters. I'd like to just give a round of applause to these young men. Bravo. Look at these guys. They were defending the American flag from the far left extremists, and I respect it. Following the hoisting of the American flag back to its rightful place at the top of the
Starting point is 00:52:30 pole at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, a group of frat boys prevented members of the Gaza camp from removing it for a second time to replace it with a Palestinian flag. The image of the young men protecting the stars and stripes has since gone viral, with one ex-user posting it alongside the hashtag Make America Frat Again, a play on Donald Trump's iconic Make America Greater Again slogan. So here's a GoFundMe.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Pi Kappa Phi men defending their flag, throw them a rager. 200,233. You got Bill Ackman right here, $10,000 donation. I'm going to hit refresh. Let's see what the number's at now. $230,000. My friend called this the culture war Iwo Jima moment. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:53:15 That's what it is, though. Well, people made a meme of the frat boys lifting the flag like the Iwo Jima photograph. Well, and left-wing media hates guys in fraternities. Like white guys in fraternities is the bane of all of feminism, left wing media's existence. They represent something they don't like. It's the president.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Remember, it's feminists are all mad at the president or their dad. Well, it makes me think again, I've referenced this a couple of times, but the Rolling Stone article where they're like this one girl accused this fraternity, I think it was UVAva and then it turned out that girl made absolutely everything up wasn't even at the school i don't even think she was in the state and there was no like no
Starting point is 00:53:51 acknowledgement of this and so it's fun to see like guys who are just trying to live life young men starting out being like well you guys are protesting and we're gonna leave you alone but you can't take down the flag we are patriotic and we believe in this whatever whatever this event trump needs to be there oh my god oh my god how great you're with donald trump that would be the most amazing thing ever donald trump showing up to this event celebrating these guys defending the american flag is this is what this country needs yeah that would be really and they can do it on the fourth of july one of the kids trump towers even one of the kids had like apparently a military father and he like wrote out a statement about what he saw and how he didn't want the flag to touch the ground and how many people have died and sacrificed so much for that flag. And it was actually really moving coming from somebody who you think is, to me, young, right?
Starting point is 00:54:38 Like under 20. But they're not too young to be principled, right? I mean, if the Gaza protesters feel very strongly that Israel is the aggressor in this, I think it is great to see young Americans also saying, hey, we're putting America first. We believe in this country. You can't just be disrespectful to symbols of our nation while on a college campus in America. That's how you know it's not about Israel though, right? It's not about Israel and it's not about Palestine. Why would you have to denigrate our flag? Why would you have to denigrate America in order to fight about your cause? Because it's not about that, right? Why would you have to pull down our flag and put theirs up? Because it's not about Israel-Palestine. It's about your hatred of America. That's all it's about. Yep. 100%. I mean, there's a phrase that people have been, that has been making the rounds on the internet, and it's the issue is never the issue.
Starting point is 00:55:32 The issue is always the revolution. And that's the way that this is panning out. And honestly, people may not acknowledge it, but that's really what the vast majority of the BLM riots were as well. You know, the narrative that we were sold about, you know, about police going after innocent black men and killing innocent black men. Most people thought that there were, you know, many, many. There were people that were saying thousands died per year. And on average, it was like 13 or 14 per year. Nine in one year.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah. I mean, it's bad it's it's not good but it's such it's so dramatically different from reality it's it is it is accurate to say that it's a lie you know to say that thousands of people have died and and and that has caused so much so much damage to the country and turmoil like so much damage i want to read the uh go fund me for you guys uh this is john noonan who started writes commie losers across the country have invaded college campuses to make dumb demands of weak university administrators but amidst the chaos the screaming the anti-semitism the hatred of faith and flag stood a platoon of american heroes
Starting point is 00:56:42 armored in vineyard vines in Patagonia, fueled by zen and white claws. These triumphant bohemians protected old glory from the unwashed Marxist horde, laughing at their shrieks and wails and shielding the stars and stripes from Soviet missiles. These boys,
Starting point is 00:57:00 no, men, of the UNC Chapel Hill Pi Kappa Phi, gave the best to America and now they deserve the best. Help us raise funds to throw this frat the party they deserve, a party worth of Boatshroad proletariat who did their country proud. Yep. Dude, I'm donating just for that write-up. That write-up's great. That write-up is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:57:23 So where are we thinking this is going to be hosted? Is it at UNC or Mar-a-Lago? Mar-a-Lago.up's great. That write-up is fantastic. So where are we thinking this is going to be hosted? Is it at UNC or Mar-a-Lago? Mar-a-Lago. Oh my gosh. You should have it here. Mar-a-Lago. I'd be willing to bet that especially with the amount of money
Starting point is 00:57:35 and attention they're getting, the amount of money they're raising, Trump and Mar-a-Lago would be like, yes, let's get... I mean, it expands upon the PR. It shines a light on on virtue it shows that there is a there's positive reinforcement socially and culturally for defending this country and its flag yep amidst people screaming and they're you can see in this photo they're having stuff thrown at
Starting point is 00:57:58 them they're like throwing liquids at him or something and so these young men were willing to hold up to make sure it didn't touch the ground while they tried to put it back up on the flagpole. And so they get rewarded. How? Cash, party, social recognition, and then ancillary benefit. Donald Trump gets tons of PR.
Starting point is 00:58:17 They do this at Mar-a-Lago. Trump shows up. He walks in clapping for them. He buys them all McDonald's. Somebody watching knows Cash Patel or somebody watching knows Don Jr. Put a bug in there tell don he'd love it they got to know about this already i want a truth so by the morning you know what i mean oh yeah like we deserve we this deserves immediate acknowledgement again if we're looking at america's youth as these like ivy league
Starting point is 00:58:40 educated super progressives i would much rather see these. And I've said it a couple of times, you know, these protests are happening across the country, but there are colleges where there is a more mixed demographic where it's not happening, right? And I think seeing guys like this step up and be like, well, you are doing, you're not telling them to break up their encampment. They're saying you can't do this to the flag.
Starting point is 00:59:01 And that's a good message. I want to stick up for Ivy Leagues just a little bit. And I'm going to say this because clearly I went to an Ivy League school twice. Which one? I went to Penn for my undergrad and grad. So I went there. But, you know, if you could say anything about the student base themselves, they're not all these people. They're not all leftists.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Now, the staff, sure. But I remember like over and over arguing with people and, and there'd be some fringe lefties, but the righties, if anything, you could say they're feckless, right? Because they wouldn't set, stand up and say anything. They're like, I don't want to piss my teachers off. I don't want to piss off like potential job interest, right? I don't want to mess with my grades i had somebody after years after i would like fight in class this guy was like one of my closest friends in school we would study all the time and he called me up years later and he was like hey can you help my brother get an internship for congressman whoever i'm like yeah but you know he's a republican right and he's like yeah my whole family's probably like you you let me out there
Starting point is 01:00:02 for that long and he's like i i don't want to affect my grade like i i don't want to ruin what and they have pressure from their friend groups and when me and james go on these campuses like penn's campus we go and ask them you know what is a woman or can men menstruate that was one of the videos like that we did they are like we know the answer we don't want to be on camera please us alone. You saw the video where the guy asks the girl how many genders there are and then the girl's like, I want to say two
Starting point is 01:00:28 and the other girl goes, stop, stop, shh, stop. Everyone's like, nah, that video's got to be fake and I'm like, maybe, I don't know, maybe. No, it's always like that. But my point is,
Starting point is 01:00:37 I don't think you're going to find three actors that good to do this bit. And I'm not saying they're the greatest actors, I don't know but it seemed natural we go to campus all the time it's it's over and over again that's in philly yeah yeah i think the pressure to like that uh if you're conservative on a college campus that
Starting point is 01:00:54 pressure of being like it's just easier to get the good grade and say what they want me to say is very real i also think it trains young conservatives to be docile and not to say anything and yeah i do beat up on the ivies a lot. I just mean it in the sense that like, the Ivies were historically sort of the epicenter of education in America. And they did do interesting things. And there have been lots of really important people who have come out of Ivies. I mean, Donald Trump went to Penn, right? So did all of his children. It's the conservative of the Ivies, if you're going to say that, because of Wharton and the business school. And I think that that's like, I think all college education is a mixed bag because there are good things that come out of every, you know, a lot of colleges in the U.S. And then there are a lot of bad things.
Starting point is 01:01:34 The problem with the Ivies, and I think this is probably, you know, you might be able to speak to this better than I can, is that the majority of them, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, I think Brown is like this, they embraced progressivism so intensely and expected every other university to follow because they are the top tier, so to speak. You know, they are the ones that you're supposed to strive for. You know, if you get into the school, it's a big deal. And there is, to me, a certain level of arrogance that comes with that. But again, that's why seeing them, you know, the students, they were particularly probably excited to see their applications of being like, well, I'm, you know, anti-systemic racism or whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Being the same students that are, you know, starting to tear the school apart is, you know, needed retribution, in my opinion. It's definitely gotten worse too within the last like five to 10 years, it's gotten really bad. But they will say,
Starting point is 01:02:25 like we had a basketball girl. She was like, I can't be on camera. I want to keep playing basketball. Now the school's gone a little crazy. The majority of the people that you talk to, they're smart kids. They know the answers to the basic questions, but they're afraid of the social justice model.
Starting point is 01:02:41 This has been going on for the past ten years, all over society. They need to stand up. This has been going on for the past 10 years all over society. Well, they need to like, they need to stand up. This isn't new. And to be honest with you, thankfully, it is breaking. Like, I think we all kind of agree that there are places and people that are starting to say it's not worth the concern anymore. They're going to attack me or, you know, they're strangling my industry or whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:03:05 But people are starting to break free of that. But that has been a normal thing. But that's why rewarding these guys and this is good, right? 100%. Absolutely. So we're saying that we finally see some people standing up and now we're going to reward you and you're going to get $200,000 and a party. It's fine to do the right thing and to say what you actually believe. I think this could be a really good turning point
Starting point is 01:03:28 to get these kids out of that mindset. I was in college during the 2016 election and I remember how many of the fraternities had like Trump banners and stuff or like they were, I'd be in class and I had a political communications professor who asked us to like say who we thought was going to win the election. And every guy at a fraternity was like, it's going to be Trump.
Starting point is 01:03:49 It's going to be Trump. And so I find it sort of endearing that it's the same guys who are probably, you know, not these guys because they're in college, but like the same type of young men who are in these fraternities are also the ones who are like, actually, we're behind the flag. You can't take this down. I think this is a value that they don't get enough credit for. Let's jump to the next story, ladies and gentlemen. Huge news.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I did not believe it. When the story broke, Donald Trump will address the Libertarian Party National Convention. OK, I as soon as I saw the story, the LP posted a tweet of Trump saying I'm in. They said we when we invited him, I reached out to some contacts. I said, no way. And they're like, yes. And I said, I still don't believe here's here's here's the release they put out. President Trump to address Libertarian Party concerns at National Convention May 25th.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Libertarian National Party, the party of principle, announced today that President Donald J. Trump has responded to an invitation and challenge from the Libertarian Party to speak at its national convention and directly address concerns voiced by its members. President Trump will speak on Saturday, May 25th in Washington, D.C. It is worded a little bit weird, mind you. Have you noticed how they worded it? Trump has responded to an invitation and challenge from the libertarian party to speak at its convention it doesn't say he responded saying he will and directly address concerns not directly address its members and
Starting point is 01:05:15 that he'll speak in dc are you thinking he's going to be like video conferencing it may be something like that yep but either way that's still that's still big. But if he's in D.C. and it's in D.C., then he will. But but maybe maybe it's really just simple. Let me keep reading. They say members of the Libertarian Party will share a list of their top 10 issues with President Trump in advance of the convention, hoping to make an impact on the policy positions of a past and possibly future president. Angela McArdle states, For 50 years, we've been trying to get our candidates on the main stage with major party POTUS candidates, and we've finally succeeded in bringing one to our stage.
Starting point is 01:05:52 We will do everything in our power to use this incredible opportunity to advance the message of liberty. Okay, bringing one to our stage. Again, I hope it's not a video conference. No, I think he's going to be a person. I think they're trying to avoid sounding like they're endorsing him. Right, right, right. They want to hold his feet to the fire
Starting point is 01:06:07 on what their issues are. So I'll read some more. Libertarians are some of the most independent and thoughtful thinkers in our country, and I am honored to join them in Washington, D.C. later this month. Okay, there you go. Simple enough.
Starting point is 01:06:18 We must all work together to help advance freedom and liberty for every American, and a second Trump administration will achieve that goal. I look forward to speaking at the Libertarian event, which will be attended by many of my great friends. We all have to remember that our goal is to defeat
Starting point is 01:06:32 the worst president in the history of the United States, by far, Crooked Joe Biden. If Libertarians join me in the Republican Party, where we have many Libertarian views, the election won't even be close. We cannot have another four years of death, destruction, and incompetence. We will work together and win. This makes sense for him to come at it this way.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Yeah, absolutely. There's a little bit more. They say the theme of the 2024 LP National Convention is to become ungovernable. This was chosen following the previous years of unconscionable authoritarian actions by the United States federal and state governments, which saw citizens confined, indoctrinated, lied to, and inoculated against their will. The citizens of the United States must become ungovernable to regain their basic rights and freedoms. This year's convention will welcome world-renowned speakers, activists, and thinkers, as well as decide the libertarian presidential candidate for the 2024 election cycle. There is no greater collection nor community of freedom, liberty, and independently- minded people. Speakers confirmed thus far President Trump, Dr. Peter McCullough, filmmaker and brother of Julian Assange, Gabriel Shipton. Part of the problem host Dave Smith, freedom advocate, historian and Bitcoin futurist Robert Breedlove, Joanne and Mark Skosin, longtime Liberty activists, founders of Freedom Fest and the Anthem Libertarian Film Festival.
Starting point is 01:07:47 More speakers will be confirmed in the coming months. I will say right now we are not confirmed, but we are in a conversation in talks, simple with LP about hosting Tim Kast IRL Friday at the convention, not in the main stage or anything, but we'll have a room there where we can bring in various people who are there. Obviously, we're friends with many of these people like Dave Smith and Angela have been on the show many times. So we're big fans of what they're doing in the Mises caucus. When I heard this, I didn't believe it. I mean, look, I'm reading their press release for the first time on the show because we pulled it up and I still
Starting point is 01:08:22 didn't even believe it. And it's at bottom confirmed donald trump speaking there on saturday the 25th and this is memorial day weekend and i'm planning a vacation like we're gonna have three-day weekend i'm gonna go we're gonna like rent a boat and just go fishing or something and then i found out trump will be at a libertarian convention i was like we're going to the convention it's gonna be their biggest turnout ever of course this is this is the a third party when's the last time this country has had a third party get recognition on on on a major platform in a major way like this in my lifetime unthinkable it's a smart move for him for sure oh yeah really smart move it's kind of crazy to me that republicans haven't done this in the past a coalition government they just expect
Starting point is 01:09:05 it the republicans have have have long expected libertarians to just vote for with republicans because they give the they give the lip service and so even though there are libertarians that are that are strongly vocal against republicans or you know about against republican policies and stuff they're still like yeah but we're better than the Democrats. And for the most part, for a long time, they were like, well, yeah, you actually are, you know. And how much of this is the effect of the Mises caucus, right? I mean, I feel like the Libertarian Party itself has really changed in the last couple of years. Would a more divided I don't think Donald Trump knows what the Mises caucus is and I don't think he's talking to the Mises caucus because of I don't think Donald Trump does. I think his staff does.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I think his staff knows who it is. And that's really who gets Donald Trump to these events. I mean, I think part of it is in the past, right? Like Republicans kind of take libertarians for granted. On the other hand, the Libertarian Party is often very divided. I mean, they have issues of debating the border and all kinds of things. So I wouldn't be surprised if this is actually, you know, the work of the Mises caucus or the effect of the Mises caucus or the effect of the Mises caucus. So my one of my favorite things is I've talked to Republicans and they
Starting point is 01:10:11 say things like, if only the libertarians just voted for Trump, this wouldn't have happened. And then I'm like, let me stop you right there. Libertarians don't like you. Like we can move on now. Like this idea where many Republicans just believe that libertarians are Republicans, but want a little bit more. And I'm like, no, no, many libertarians outright detest the things you stand for. The Mises caucus brings you a little closer on a lot of issues. And I think this is going to be really interesting. Many, many people in the Libertarian Party do not like Trump. I think it was the Libertarian Party of Louisiana tweeted out the picture of Trump's hair and it said Trump is the opposite of a libertarian.
Starting point is 01:10:49 And it's like, well, let me tell you. There are libertarians who don't believe in borders. And I've gotten to arguments with them. And I'm just like, you can be an anarchist and call yourself an anarcho-capitalist or whatever you want to call yourself. But libertarian implies some form of government. If there is some form of government to some capacity, there is a limit to which your government can extend, correct? That's called your border.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Borders exist. And if you allow anyone to come in, they will exploit you and ignore your laws, even as few as you have. But I think now with the Mises caucus, what you're seeing is a lot of people who understand the importance of borders, understand the importance of some governance, but limited governance, free speech, all of the First Amendment entails, Second Amendment, etc. I just wonder if people at the LP would actually consider voting for Trump. That's Trump's angle, obviously. He says it. If we come together, we win. How many libertarians are going to be like this one time, this one time I'll vote for
Starting point is 01:11:55 Republican? I think a good amount. I really do. I think a good amount, especially if he's going and talking to them and giving and he's basically raising awareness about like there's a lot of people who don't't even know that the libertarian party exists. Let's be fair. There's like soccer moms that have no idea, right? He's giving them a platform and he's saying, hey, you are important. That matters a lot to people. I mean, even just with regular congressmen, when you help them with their constituent work, that matters to them that you paid attention to
Starting point is 01:12:21 them. That's enough. Right. Trump addressing his concerns and the Libertarian Party trying to influence his policy positions and Trump saying outright, I need your help. You matter. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. I'm I am so excited. This is like the coolest news ever. It also just it boosts the Libertarian Party and we just desperately need competition in politics. I'm curious to see what the format is. They're saying they're going to send the list beforehand. Like, is someone moderating and taking questions? Is Angela going to be on stage with Trump? Because Trump is a monologuer, I think. I think he is really a solo show. So maybe he will come pre-prepared with remarks. But, you know, Dave Smith sitting down with Trump going over the top 10 issues would be the most viewed. OK, probably not the most viewed podcast.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Probably Joe Rogan interviewing his Sasquatch would be the most views. But you get my point. But it would be hugely meaningful. And I think it would mean a lot to also anyone who is interested in libertarianism, like would search that video or be like Trump libertarianism. And it would be what comes up. I mean, it would have a lasting effect for generations who are trying to figure out how a Republican views libertarianism
Starting point is 01:13:28 or what a Donald Trump presidency means for the potential libertarian movement in America. You know, I just made myself laugh, but also a little sad at the same time when I realized that if Joe Rogan interviewed some guy dressed as Sasquatch, it probably would get more views than a major political convention.
Starting point is 01:13:44 And I'm just like, people need entertainment. I think people do get burned out on politics, you know, and they think that is one of Trump's strengths because it feels like a show. It feels like an activity. You know, even,
Starting point is 01:13:54 you know, at least it's not. I am so burnt out on politics. I can't even go on Twitter. Well, that's why you're gardening now. I am. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:14:02 it's, it's a lot. I think that people are tired of it. But we'll see. I think this is good. I think this is good. Good. This is historic.
Starting point is 01:14:09 This is like the Libertarian Party being addressed by a major candidate for a rival political party. It's going to boost them up. It's going to be absolutely fantastic. I think Trump could actually win over enough because he only needs a small percentage like single digits to make him to become unbeatable i love everything you're saying but i am almost positive some dumb libertarian is gonna get on stage naked or something or do something like that someone's gonna run around with a cake on their head or something like that you're you are correct. But I was just watching. They're going to blow it.
Starting point is 01:14:46 They're going to blow it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Phil doesn't believe in you libertarians. I was watching Trump just speak a few hours ago. And he, a guy is just like Uncle Sam. And he's like, look at me. He brings him up, shakes his hand. Then he bends over to pick something up and stands up and goes,
Starting point is 01:14:59 you think Joe Biden can bend down like that? And everyone busts out laughing. Yeah. I hope so. He handles those moments well. Yeah. If a guy got naked at the convention or something. And got past Secret Service.
Starting point is 01:15:11 That's the other part. No, no, no. I don't think anyone's going to get anywhere near Trump. But like if someone at the convention does something to make it, you know, untoward or whatever, Trump would zinger him. Yeah. I mean, he would. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:22 That Bill Barr zinger was like, that's got to be a top 10 i mean look man the the he's the guy that said you'd be in jail that was i know he's got amazing i mean this is i missed the hillary clinton donald trump debate that was the golden age of television in my opinion i'm watching some of his speeches and i'm like this man is back the the bill barr truth post so i'm removing lethargic from my statement i was just it's top 10 top 10 insult of all time was so good as the guys endorsing him i know it's absolutely amazing okay i think it's a reminder that trump trump sort of forgives but he doesn't really forget, right? Nor should you. Nor should you.
Starting point is 01:16:06 And this is part of the interesting thing about a second Trump presidency, especially since he lost in 2020, which is like, who are you surrounding yourself with? Because I think a lot of people feel like his staff in 2016, like going into post-2016 election, sort of derailed some of the agenda he had laid out, that he had some questionable staffing choices. And so, again, this, I have learned from my mistakes, and I'll take away some of the negative adjectives, but I'm not fully forgiving you, is an interesting take. I think that Bill Barr did the right thing there by saying, like, it's not about me, it's about the country. I think, I thought that was a really, like, top-notch move on his part.
Starting point is 01:16:44 But back to the Trump being at the party, do you really think that he'll do a question one-on-one? I don't think so. I think he'll go to a campaign rally and give his little speech. It's impossible for me to see him doing anything other than a full-on speech. But just the way they're saying, we're going to send you our top 10 issues. So Trump is then going to definitely incorporate that?
Starting point is 01:17:01 No, he'll ignore them. He'll maybe respond to two. You would need someone on stage like sort of like a town hall to really get all of your questions, I think. But this is going to be interesting. Like there are a lot of libertarians who hate Trump.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Yeah. Hate, hate, hate. He's going to get booed and cheered as he walks on stage. Yeah. It's going to be really interesting. I mean, it is good for the party to raise awareness and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:17:22 It's a good get for Angela. So I'm sure that that's going to be a benefit for her career. I don't know how much Donald Trump is going to appeal to libertarians because he's kind of Trump all the time. You know what I mean? You don't really get a Donald Trump that's different in front of a different audience,
Starting point is 01:17:43 and libertarians are definitely different're different kind of people man so i mean i i would like to see i would like to see him you know make some you know make some inroads and i would like to see him convince some people to to to vote for him um i'm just not sure uh i'm not sure how it happens again this is not me saying that i don't think it it does and i'm not saying i think it's a bad thing i'm just saying that i don't know how it does this will be very interesting i think he think it does and I'm not saying I think it's a bad thing. I'm just saying that I don't know how it does. This will be very interesting. I think he thinks it's going to go great. He's probably like, this is going to be awesome. Of course he does. I don't think it could go bad.
Starting point is 01:18:12 I don't really see it going super bad either unless the left-wing media picks up like, oh, some people were booing at the Libertarian Convention, but even then, who cares? I think Trump thinks about it and he's just like, I don't get the Libertarian vote as of now. If I don't get the libertarian vote as of now. If I don't get it after this convention, so what?
Starting point is 01:18:30 If I win even one vote, it's worth it. Yeah, I agree. Let's jump to this story. James O'Keefe is back, ladies and gentlemen, with a massive expose. A CIA agent, a project manager working in cyber operations for the CIA and NSA, contractor with top secret clearance working for Deloitte. Amjad Faisesi caught in an undercover, on undercover cameras, implicating the highest levels of the intelligence agencies, including the executive staff. We're talking, quote, we're talking about the director and his subordinates. Former CIA director Gina Haspel, and I believe Mike Pompeo did the same thing too, kept information from Trump because we knew he'd effing disclose it. There are certain people that would give him
Starting point is 01:19:09 a high level overview, but never give him any details. You know why? Because he'll leak those details. He's a Russian asset. He's owned by the effing Russians. This is a guy, look at this. He says, quote, we steal it referring to information. We hack other countries just like that. And so this is a major expose. I'll play a little bit of the beginning. And the CIA has issued a response. James says it appears he got fired over this. But we'll read
Starting point is 01:19:35 the response in a second. Here you go. I work in the intelligence community. I work at the CIA. I do cyber operations. I've been doing it for a long time. So how long have you been working at the CIA? Since 2008. I also work doing it for a long time. So how long have you been working at the CIA? Since 2008. I've also worked at MSA, yeah. And then I have a TSSCI with a full-scale polygraph.
Starting point is 01:19:54 That means that I'm fully vetted. Amjad Fasisi shows her his CIA identification badge. Now, where does it say things? It doesn't. Hey, that's the point. That's the point. What's CMC? China Mission Center, darling. China Mission Center. Wow. Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Amjad talks about how the CIA kept information from Trump. We kept information from him. Say that one more time. We kept information from him. From Trump? Yes. He's an idiot. There are certain people that would give him a high level overview, but never give it
Starting point is 01:20:21 to anybody. Do you know why? Because he's a leaker. He's a leaker. He's a leaker. He's a leaker. He's certain people that would give him a high-level overview, but never give it to anybody. Do you know why? It's called legal speech, y'all. Amjad Fasisi states the higher-ups within the intel community,
Starting point is 01:20:34 including CIA directors Mike Pompeo and Gina Haspel, and the upper levels of their staffs, colluded to withhold information from sitting President Trump. So the agencies kind of like all got together and said, we're not going to tell Trump. The higher ups. The higher ups. We put it this way, the executive staff,
Starting point is 01:20:52 we're talking about the director and his subordinates. Like what titles are they? Director of the CIA. Director of the CIA. Yes. Are you guys still watching him? I would say yes. It sounds like you guys are still watching him? I would say yes. It sounds like you guys are still watching him and his team.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Of course we are. Nothing goes by without somebody watching. Amjed Fasisi also states as fact that Trump is under constant surveillance and even claims they are spying on his ex-wife. I also have people that monitor his ex-wife. So you guys had human sources? Like wiretapping? How did you guys figure out that Trump was colluding with the Russians? Did you guys use...
Starting point is 01:21:39 So the intel community was able to use F Pfizer to spy on Trump and his team. And that's how we found out that he was colluding with the Russians. Was it the CIA or the NSA that spied on Trump? This is crazy. Now, look, look, James has CIA comment. The official appears to have been terminated as a result of our reporting today. When the CIA was asked for a comment, O'Keefe Media received an exclusive statement on the record from a CIA spokesperson. They said it was nice speaking with you. As discussed, you may attribute the following on the record statement to a CIA spokesperson.
Starting point is 01:22:18 These claims about CIA are absolutely false and ridiculous. CIA is a resolutely apolitical institution that provides intelligence support to policymakers, including the president of the United States, irrespective of who occupies the office. We are a foreign intelligence focused agency and do not monitor the former president. The individual making these claims is a former contractor who does not represent CIA. He showed a badge. So here's what's interesting. If he if he's currently a former contractor for the CIA stands to reason that badge was legit. If he was claiming in the video he worked for the CIA it stands to reason he did when he showed the badge and now he's former because he got caught an undercover camera.
Starting point is 01:23:07 You're not you're not going to be good in intelligence if you're blabbing to some young girl you met on Tinder or something like this. I don't know why these people do this all the time. Like, what are you doing that you're just like word vomiting at all these things that you know nobody is supposed to hear? I don't understand. Lisa, I mean, come on. You get it. Like, women love it when guys blab about government malfeasance that they're involved in. It's just, guys, every woman is super impressed when you talk about the corruption you're involved in.
Starting point is 01:23:33 She was, like, hitting the points hard, too. She sounds like she's interviewing him. She was 100% like not taking it. He's like, hey, baby. No, she was like, and what about this? Yeah, right. She was very direct about it. She sounds like she's a notepad. And she's like, what's the CIA?
Starting point is 01:23:44 Yeah, I thought she was reading questions off her phone and this guy was like okay great like well i have one two minute glasses of wine because for the sake of james's career uh you both need to reaffirm to the people of the world that women are deeply impressed by men who explain the corruption they're involved in true we are yeah especially the first the first date that's all you talk don't talk about your interests don't talk about your hobbies tell me right away don't talk about it just talk about any political any secrets if you've been told by your government agency not to say something that's what girls want to hear that's all right i i honestly 100 do want all the
Starting point is 01:24:18 tea i have so much gossip on so many people people tell me everything i love it i honestly think that's why this guy is not like that confused. He thinks it sounds impressive and also the fact she's like, wait, what? You did what? Because girls like gossip. He's like just classic women.
Starting point is 01:24:32 They want to know all the details. Girls do like gossip. I got to be honest. It is so weird every time this happens and it happens in this exact way where it's like the guy's like, hey girl, want to hear about some corporate malfeasance I'm involved in criminal activities and felonies i tried to i tried to subvert the
Starting point is 01:24:49 u.s government so into it she's like yes and he's like you are i'll tell you more it is crazy all of these people they just spill the beans i mean i i think it's funny that we're more flabbergasted by the fact that this guy just let it rip, as opposed to the fact that here is a guy who works for who worked for the CIA outright saying at the highest levels they subverted the Trump administration to make him ineffective. How stupid is the guy working for the CIA, though, that he doesn't know he's being set up by this chick? And then the way that she's interrogating him, she was interrogating him. That wasn't like date cautions. That was an interrogation. But anyway, we knew this like so here's the thing i said we this isn't anything we didn't know earlier tim you corrected me it's like no we assumed and then
Starting point is 01:25:34 this is the but this is what we've all expected all along to have to see somebody say it is a little jarring right so a lot of people responded to james or there but some tweets and they were like we knew this and james is like where where was the proof? Right. Of course, everybody we know about the meeting with Comey and Biden and who was it, Yates and things like this. But now you have a guy on whether he wants to be on the record or not, just blabbing about here's everything we did, why we did it, how it was done and what they're probably still doing. Now you have a guy on camera. There you go. The funny thing about all of these undercover videos, James nails this. He's like, I just publish people's mouths moving. They're saying things. They say, James did this, James did that. I'm like, there's a video of a guy.
Starting point is 01:26:15 His mouth is moving. Words are coming out. Don't look at me. He said it. I do not believe a spokesperson for the CIA. I remember when Deepwater Horizon happened. Do you remember this? The oil rig disaster like, what, 13 years ago?
Starting point is 01:26:28 And they put all these statements. Fukushima happens. They put out all these statements. They're all bunk nonsense. Everyone knows spokespeople are liars. Everybody knows Karine Jean-Pierre is going in there and just word vomiting all over the floor. I don't know why anyone listens to it. You know what I want to hear?
Starting point is 01:26:43 I want to hear the undercover recording of what they actually say behind closed doors, because that's more likely to be true. Do you know who I think the real winner of the Biden administration has been? Jen Psaki. Because she was there in the beginning. She got to be like, look, we won. Donald Trump bad. She bowed out, got a multi-million dollar contract
Starting point is 01:26:59 with the mainstream media. Is it? I don't know. She's a hate the face, though. I mean, it's, I don't know. She so i mean it's it's i don't know i don't she's a what i hate the face oh you just look at her face and you hate her no matter what like i don't care what her still though like she gets to say oh i was in the bite administration but she doesn't have to answer any of the the end of four-year questions right she's not having to explain the border crisis or the economy like she she had great moves it's with the CIA contractor I almost wonder if that was part of it like he's like oh I can say whatever I want because people hate Trump so much
Starting point is 01:27:33 that's what I was gonna say this is like they all have Trump derangement syndrome and they think because they hate him so much that everybody else hates him so much so that these people would be impressed they would never say anything they would never repeat it because they're happy it's being done. Because they're not saying, oh, it's because we have an agenda and he wouldn't listen to us. He's saying Trump is stupid. They're all like very intense personal character attacks. And it's to make him look like he is somehow part of this powerful elite that actually controls the country because Donald Trump shouldn't, even though he got voted in at one point.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Like it just doesn't, it doesn't make sense. But again, like this seems like possibly if you're in, you know, a mega liberal city, a city that goes blue, you assume whoever you're randomly bumping into thinks the way you do.
Starting point is 01:28:19 If you're, you know, on this side. I think everybody, I met, I was like with people in the dogs, like dogs, walking my dog with other guys in the park. And this older man starts talking to me and he says like uh he starts
Starting point is 01:28:30 kind of hitting at politics and i was like look buddy i'm really far right like just did you say that yeah that's what i said immediately but but you get nervous like thinking like everybody's here left everybody here is in this city what did he say when you said that he goes high five i knew i talked to you for a reason. That actually worked out pretty well. But for the most part, I tell them up front, but you're always anticipating, especially being in a lefty city,
Starting point is 01:28:54 that you're going to run into left-wing people more than not. And I think the left-wing people are, I don't think anyone's going to be surprised by this, but less tolerant of it. Conservatives are used to having to be the ones to be like, oh, you think, I don't think anyone's gonna be surprised with this, but less tolerant of it. Conservatives are used to having to be the ones to be like, oh, you think differently than I do, whereas, you know, liberal people
Starting point is 01:29:09 are like, how dare you say you voted for anyone but the people on the ticket that I like. So true. Well, it's because the way that the left has characterized the left and the right for so long is just as simple as they're the bad guys and we're the good guys.'s it's if you vote
Starting point is 01:29:26 for any right-leaning policies it's because you have a moral failing there is something wrong with you so you know you know the challenge is with the internet these days is that uh everyone has a podcast the problem without the internet was that only the deep state had the podcast you know what i mean it's like damn it's like there's no happy medium and i'm just thinking about you know these people you're mentioning like you if you don't support the ticket that i'm on they're all of these people on social media that are putting on these characters they're grifting there's one guy that's getting a lot of attention because all he does is just scream and look like he's gonna burst a blood vessel in his in his eye and then He was that guy who was, I can't remember the video,
Starting point is 01:30:06 but he's just the guy who's like, why, why are you voting? Donald Trump is corrupt. Yeah, you guys know what I'm talking about. He's got a bunch of these. And it's like, why are you talking like that? It's a performance. And so many people are doing it
Starting point is 01:30:18 and they're falling for this stuff. This guy had one video where he's like, Donald Trump was in a scheme to put out misinformation to cheat the election. And now we know that 2016 was stolen through Trump's criminal actions. And I'm like, it's not a crime to make claims in the press. That's not illegal. You can say there's fraud if you're selling a product and you mislead someone as what the product does to take their money from them. Trump did not do that.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Nor is there evidence so far that Trump was actually involved in any kind of scheme at all. But there are these people who are putting on this performance. Then you end up with people following them and getting their news from random people who have no idea what they're talking about. You know, a good example being Bill Maher. Bill Maher's, I'm joking, but he's a good example of
Starting point is 01:31:01 before the internet, only the deep state had the podcast. And Bill Maher's a moron. It's Internet, only the deep state had the podcast. And Bill Maher's a moron. It's a guy who doesn't even read the news. Shout out to when he was reading the quote from Jack Posobiec, which was an obvious joke that Jack told while laughing. And he was shocked, clutching his pearls, going, oh, we didn't overthrow democracy, but we'll strive, endeavor to try again. How could this be? And it's like Jack was laughing as he was saying this and smiling as the crowd laughed at the joke. It was called sarcasm. But people are informed by these people. And that's why you end up with Trump derangement
Starting point is 01:31:36 syndrome. But he thinks even though it's sarcasm, like that there's a hidden under meaning like he was framing it as sarcasmasm but he really meant it like that's what they they're that deranged that that's what they say like he really i think bill maher really believed that jack was serious about that no you no no you you could tell when when batia was like that's a joke bill he's like as bill's reading it you sort of see the look in his eye where he's thinking to himself like i'm reading a joke aren't i well that also means i think i said this at the time when this happened that someone on his staff was like bill look what they said and he was like really this is what happens at cpac i've always heard it's the worst place on earth but now i know like somebody set him up to look stupid or
Starting point is 01:32:21 he wants his viewers to not believe it's a joke either he's in on it or he's being manipulated and either one's not a good look it's i don't know if it's manipulation but he has dumb staff who get their news from tiktok and they saw the out of context clip probably from msnbc and then said here's a quote from jack posobiec and then bill's like uh-huh and then on the show he's like look at this here's a quote and then he read it and was like oh geez yeah okay i just read a joke and thought it was real and then he goes well don't quit your day job it's like bill jack posobic is allowed to make jokes sometimes you don't have to be a comedian to make a joke sometimes everybody does don't quit your day job jack posobic is a host on a news podcast and he i believe he writes and he tweets and he does a
Starting point is 01:33:06 media and so sometimes he will tell a joke he's rather successful in fact he has millions of followers but bill maher was embarrassed by what he said i think jack being at cbac is essentially part of his day job like everything he was doing okay bill he'll continue on thank you for the endorsement yeah all right we're gonna go to super chat so if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends uh word of mouth really is the best thing uh to help the podcast grow and head over to timcast.com click join us for several reasons around 10 10 p.m i'm gonna i'm gonna give it a little bit extra time as we get started to make sure everyone has a chance to tune in.
Starting point is 01:33:46 We will be debuting All That Remains new single Divine. Phil Labonte has graced us with the music video. Is this the first time it's going to be publicly displayed? So technically it's not public. It is to the public, but it's for members only. Yeah, members only. It's an exclusive
Starting point is 01:34:01 listening party. That's pretty cool. The first time we're going to play it is going to be tonight or at the after party and then the next time will be midnight on Liquid Metal tonight. They're going to start
Starting point is 01:34:12 playing it on Sirius Liquid Metal for the next, they're playing it like every hour for the day. But debuts here and then they do it for a day.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Then the video goes on Friday. So exciting. It's been a long time. What's the genre and subgenre like how would you it's a metal metalcore it's probably probably the safest thing I mean all that remains has been a metalcore band since you know I mean we're one of the first people to kind of start playing metalcore so I'm
Starting point is 01:34:36 I just want to say this because you know but the guitar and the drums and the vocals like I mean just everything about it really I'm impressed thank you I love the guitar. Absolutely. Like, I just, it's a great song. We're going to play that. I am honored that you would debut it on the Members Only show. So, but that's going to be our uncensored Members Only call-in show, where we will debut Phil's new song, then take calls from all of you guys who are members.
Starting point is 01:34:59 And here's the cool thing. Go to TimCats.com, click Join Us. When you're a member for at least six months, you get upgraded to the submissions room. If you sign up at the $25 per month level, you're instantly able to submit questions. It's a screening process, either time or money, because we have activists and we just try to come in and be disruptive. So we had to have some kind of barrier to make it a little harder. But when you submit a um the the community actually votes on which questions they want to see asked on the show so it's it's really really great you can submit your questions and then actually call in and talk to us and it's uh it's basically what funds everything we do you
Starting point is 01:35:35 guys being members but we will uh we'll go back to reading your super chats and let me just youtube is a slow overloads the browser and we got a lot of good super chats today so and also shout out to James O'Keefe for the amazing reporting T-bomb says howdy people token black guy says howdy people they
Starting point is 01:35:52 both beat Clint and Robert De La Cruz says where the hell is Clint Torres is Clint in there at all is he okay he's not here so there has to be a Clint Torres search party I see him on
Starting point is 01:36:04 Twitter still and we also lost. Maybe he's mad. We lost I'm Not Your Buddy guy. Oh, what happened to him? He hasn't posted a super chat in a while. Yeah. Or did he rebrand and we don't realize it? It's true.
Starting point is 01:36:12 It's been clicked the whole time. Could be. All right. All right. Big7588 says, we were warned by punk rock. Dead Kennedy's kinky sex makes the world go round. Well, I guess. Phil, do you have any prophecies on your new album
Starting point is 01:36:28 that you want to share with us? Any predictions about politics? No, no, I don't. I bet he does, and he's just being modest. Let's read some more. Matthew Hammond says, Lisa, could we get a culture war with Richard Barris of the People's Pundit, Robert Barnes, J.D. Vance,
Starting point is 01:36:44 and Scott Pressler to discuss the populist movement after Trump? How many seats do you think are in this room? Listen, always. I actually took, I saw that come over the Super Chat, and I took a screenshot of that so I can remember whatever you said. So I'm already, I do pay attention to what you guys say. So yeah, I already did take a screenshot of that. That's why she has to take breaks from Twitter sometimes
Starting point is 01:37:06 because she gets fired up. Correct. And then people think you're booking IRL guests and they're like, why? I get that all the time. Well,
Starting point is 01:37:14 how come so-so? I was like, I do not book for IRL. It is not the same. It's a completely different thing. I am really excited for Connor Tomlinson, Carl Benjamin,
Starting point is 01:37:23 Phil, discussing liberalism. Yeah, that's going to be fun. It's going to be like, you know what we need to do for that episode? We need to get like big chairs with like velvet backs that are long and corn cob pipes and like velvet robes. Maybe we'll get big wigs, big white wigs. And just sit back and, well, you know, I think when Locke was writing about it. The table has to be stacked with leather bound books.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Yes. I back this. I'm fully back to this. That would be fun. I think we could easily get those chairs, and that would be hilarious. I'd be the best. I'll put, like, a fake film of stained glass on the windows right there, so you can really feel like you're in the chapel.
Starting point is 01:37:58 I will order the robes. I'm so into it. You should sit in there in robes. I'm so into it. We'll get really nice pipes, but they'll have bubbles. No, I don't want to do any of that. We can't smoke in here. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:07 No, a robe thing's hilarious. The robe will be fun. It'll be fun. Let's go. Grofty says, 25 months. Wow, a member for 25 months is too short. Be the voice of your fellow humans or chicken. We're really excited about the new chicken city that we're building.
Starting point is 01:38:22 The outdoor portion will actually have a roof. So the idea with the first chicken city that we're building, the outdoor portion will actually have a roof. So the idea with the first chicken city was indoor and outdoor section. And then we realized it doesn't work. The whole thing's got to be covered, but just slightly less. So the idea is we want sunlight and we want open air and exposure, but the rain really destroys everything. It rips apart the ground, it erodes, we can't repair it. So we're like, we're going to cover it, but still make sure that Chicken City gets some sunlight and some protection from the elements at the same time.
Starting point is 01:38:51 I'm going to donate dandelions. That way the yolks can be real orange. Is that what happens? Yeah, it's like the... The pollen or something? No, it starts with a C. Whatever. But the more they eat dandelions and certain kind of flowers and stuff. You know, dandelions and certain kind of flowers and stuff. You know, dandelions were brought here by the
Starting point is 01:39:07 colonists. It was medicinal, and they're food. They're not native here. You can fry them up, actually, and it's actually pretty good that you can fry them up and make them little patties and stuff. Yeah, it's like an Appalachian thing, especially. They batter and fry dandelions, and they supposedly taste like deep-fried mushrooms. I love
Starting point is 01:39:24 regional culture. I'm just afraid that there's like pesticides and everything i you know like people are like i'm gonna grow my own stuff now i'm afraid to like even grow my own stuff because i feel like the soil that they bag us up is tainted you know what i mean like i feel like everything's tainted anyway so i'm afraid to eat like wild dandelions even if i wash them and whatever i bet you could find a soil brand that's like very like nothing has been added to this but it is hard you can't escape all kinds of things i hear this about like water you know even if your city is like oh we filter it you really can't trust it at all trust anything token it's a fun way to live i know it's awful token black guy says timcast
Starting point is 01:39:59 should start a new show with lisa josie and hannah claire and call it Based AF. That's a fun name. I like that. The morning thing would be a good idea, like a ladies morning thing? That's the plan. The problem is I live in Philadelphia. Josie lives in Florida. Right, exactly. So what we wanted to do was basically the view, but with sane women,
Starting point is 01:40:20 you know, and not ill-informed, overly emotional women. We could try virtual. I'm just saying. Or we could make it a seasonal thing and we go on a girl's road trip and then we see how long we last until we're sick of each other. Can we go to a dude ranch, please? It's my ultimate dream vacation to go to a dude ranch. Dude, I'm in.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Yeah, we were thinking of using the old studio for it. Of doing like a mid-morning like moms i gotta discuss any issues i'm being i'm being profiled against yeah oh yeah absolutely tim hates me because i don't have kids well you're on this show i'm just kidding i'm the mom but now uh hey mom moms deserve to talk to you guys have rights well the thing is uh it's it's fascinating looking at the podcast metrics. Women do not listen to culture and news and politics. They listen to true crime. Yep.
Starting point is 01:41:11 And makeup. True crime and relationships. Yeah. I have always thought we needed those as brands. Alex Clark was pretty decent with that, with poplitics. Tales from the Inverted World is kicking off this Sunday. I will be joining for the first episode with Shanelitics. Tales from the Inverted World is kicking off this Sunday. I will be joining for the first episode
Starting point is 01:41:27 with Shane Cashman. And I don't know what the subjects are, but this is, I'm probably going to be jealous of this show because it's call-ins from people
Starting point is 01:41:35 who have paranormal experiences and mysteries. So it's a live show, not too dissimilar to the format that we do, but the point of the show is, and I'll tell you this now, become a member at timcast.com as we're setting up the call-in do but the or the point of the show is and i'll tell you this now become a member at timcast.com as we're setting up the call-in portion for tales from
Starting point is 01:41:49 the inverted world because everybody who's got a ufo experience a ghost experience a cryptid experience maybe government agents or something or just you have a story about some weird paranormal or unexplained phenomenon that's the point of the show is take those call-ins have the caller tell their story and then discuss it with the host and the guest and then do maybe like three or four callers per episode that's cool i love these shows when like some old dude calls and he's like let me tell you about the ghost who's been haunting my family and you're like whoa i don't care we have a show to figure this out now. I do a little bit. It's Sunday night. The lights are turned low and there's this grisly old man telling you
Starting point is 01:42:29 about this strange velvet figure that keeps walking through his hallways but no one can catch him. And then one day, his grandmother was pushed down the stairs but no one was there. They brought an exorcist. Yeah, those stories are awesome.
Starting point is 01:42:42 I'll reach out to, I can reach out to Steve Gonzalez from Ghost Hunters. Yeah. He's a, he actually, He's a great guest. He played drums in the first band that I was in. Really?
Starting point is 01:42:50 From back in the day. Great guest for Culture War. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. All right, we'll grab some more. But that's going to be a Sunday. I don't know the exact time,
Starting point is 01:42:58 but it's going to be Sunday evenings. So that's when we're going to, we're going to, we're going to bring in callers. The, the idea is for the most part, it's like if you're a member of Timcast, you can submit your stories. But I think we'll probably also have people submitting through email as well. And ideally, it's members because that's the simplest way we have to run a call-in show and screen guests for a live show. The challenge is i don't
Starting point is 01:43:26 know if there's a big enough pool of stories through just a member base would you do like a voicemail box where people can like call in and leave like a summary of their story and you could like contact them i think they just email in say like here's my name here's my story you'd want to play their audio on the show or something well no like they talk live on the show so they actually call in and have a conversation about the story so it's like tell us your story and then people will tell their ghost stories and i think a lot of people have these stories they want to tell but that's this is like the only kind of show where you get them out there you know i think this is fun idea i think it'll
Starting point is 01:43:59 work i think you can vet people enough i mean what are they gonna go say random stuff it's not a political show it Some people absolutely do. Yeah, that's why I was thinking the voicemail thing. Like if somebody were called in and was like, here's my story or here's like whatever it is, then you can be like, here is the audio recording. But then you can't interact with them. Yeah, it's really about telling the story and then asking questions like, wait, wait, wait. So you're saying that the stairs were covered in water?
Starting point is 01:44:21 And they're like, yeah, yeah. You know, like what? Like that interaction is what really, really gets it going. All right, here we go. Paul Tiascolo says, I just randomly discovered the U.S. is using Ukrainian military transport airplanes, Antonov AN-12BK, to do migrant flights importing from border towns to U.S. interior. Check my pinned tweet. Real PJ Paul.
Starting point is 01:44:43 I think I heard that as well. J.W. Dickinson says, I'm still waiting for a K-Cup coffee multi-pack so that I can gift it to a friend to force him to buy from you depending on his flavor of choice. Yeah, we need to get that. I forgot what the reason was.
Starting point is 01:45:01 We got to figure that one out. You can always just send them Appalachian Nights because that seems to be everyone's favorite. And it's like the only coffee that I drink. I can tell when the coffee changes. You know, it's like Allison will be making espresso or coffee in the morning. And I'm like, what is this? She's like, oh, well, you know, I had this other bag and I knew it.
Starting point is 01:45:18 You're like, not in my household. I'm like the only person that doesn't drink coffee. So I've never had it. You and the Mormons. Maybe it's because you haven't had Appalachian Nights. Maybe that's why. Maybe that's why. You should had Appalachian Nights. I like tea. Maybe that's why. Maybe that's why.
Starting point is 01:45:27 You should try it. It's good. We should make tea for people like me. We should, actually. We're getting there. We want to do a lot of things. We want to do, obviously, hot cocoa, and we want to do cold brew cans and energy drinks and protein. And so we worked a lot of this stuff out, but
Starting point is 01:45:45 there's only so much manpower, time and energy, and we really got to get the coffee shop open. So we're in the drawing and permitting process, which takes forever. It's crazy. We were supposed to open a year ago and then contractors didn't work out. And then we got new contractors who didn't work out. And now we have a really amazing team of contractors that seem to just be able to do anything and everything instantly and super quick. The best guys we've ever had. And now things seem to be moving along. And so once we get the permitting process done, it'll be a couple months. But, of course, we're delayed.
Starting point is 01:46:15 And everyone's like, Tim, you can say it'll be June or July. And I'm like, okay. And now they're like, oh, definitely not June or July. And I'm like, are you kidding? Contractors are notoriously the worst. They'll start a job. They'll take half your deposit or your money and they don't show up anymore and they're just like you're like hey
Starting point is 01:46:28 you have this money not the current guys we have though these guys it's just like they rock yeah yeah we needed we needed trim put in uh after that we changed the lights and it was like the next morning i walk in it's done i was like whoa like wow shout out so you know i could have put that quarter round up there for you with a Brad Niller. Yes. I mean, it wasn't the hardest thing in the world, but it was just like they got it done. It was nice that they did it that fashion. This whole place looks great.
Starting point is 01:46:52 It's my first time here. All right. It's cool. Super Mercer Bro says, hey, Phil, huge fan. You too, Tim. Are you doing anything VIP or meet and greets? I'm 33 and going to take my eight-year-old to his first concert for his birthday gift. He's super excited. P.S. We're in AZ. Yes, there will be meet and greets. Go to allthatremainsonline.com for information on meet and greets and tickets and stuff.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Purple says, Doesn't Matt Walsh work for Jews? No. I believe that Jeremy Boring is, is he Catholic? Yeah. He's Catholic. Matt Walsh is Catholic. But Ben Shapiro, as part owner, is Jewish.
Starting point is 01:47:28 But I think that only means Jew, not Jews. Also, I think there's a gross overestimation of the, like, I think following the Candace thing, people genuinely believe that, like, Daily Wire is preventing people from being critical of Israel. I don't think that's the case. I agree. But I do think like Ben, I think Ben and Jeremy both said something like we have our limit where if you're not in line with what our company is doing, then you're not going to work here or whatever. Like we're going to part ways. Matt Walsh has, this is not the first time he's criticized something pertaining to Israel.
Starting point is 01:48:05 They've had on, on Daily Wire's backstage, Matt Walsh has discussed and debated with Jeremy and Ben on some of these things. And Matt's great. Everyone loves him. I don't know. I think that, I think that Candace didn't really want to be there anyway. Everybody was kind of like unhappy and looking for an out. I feel like that that whole thing was going on for like a year anyway. Uh, You know, so. I think it may have had something to do with her saying that Trudeau's wife was a man. My conspiracy theory was that she was like, I went out of my contract and they're like, we can't, you have a contract, you got to finish it.
Starting point is 01:48:35 And she's like, okay. And then she went on her show and said, Bridget McCrone is a man. And then they were like, okay, we get your point. Well, you can leave your contract. It seemed like she and ben were sort of mutually critical and it it doesn't seem like it was a good fit hopefully splitting ways works out better for everyone yeah it is i'm so sick of like the it's just so hard to like speculate on another company's internal politics um based on twitter wars you know my my attitude
Starting point is 01:49:02 kind of is like i don't know that I disagree with the Daily Wire or like Ben to an extreme degree. I obviously disagree on like funding of Israel, a more America first. Ben thinks we should be supporting and funding Israel, but it's also kind of obvious he is Jewish. And I'm like, okay, that's kind of obvious. But the Daily Wire and we here at TimCast and many other people in the libertarian,
Starting point is 01:49:27 post-liberal, former disaffected liberal overlap on 97% to like 90% of things. I'm like, I'll have a conversation where I say I disagree. And then I'll shake hands and say, thank you for agreeing on almost all of the things that we need to win. I don't understand why people get so personally invested. Like these people are so personally invested in these hosts or what they think is going on behind the scenes. They have no idea what's going on, right?
Starting point is 01:49:55 These people are real people. And because like we don't, I can watch Ben Shapiro and realize what I don't agree with him on, what I think he's wrong on, but still like him and still see the value that he adds to the situation. And I can do that with Crowder. I can do that with Candace. I can do that with you, each and every one. Like, I don't understand why these people get like, you're acting like they're talking about your mother. It's weird. It's like Ben will say 900, like 99 things that you're like, that's right. That's right. And then he says, but I'm also pro-Israel.
Starting point is 01:50:26 And I think we've been fighting Israel. And then instantly they're like, I am unfollowing and unsubscribing from the Daily Wire because the one thing you said crossed the line for me. And my attitude is like, okay, well, then you got to do that. Like if you don't want to support them or whatever, fine. My attitude is more just there's varying degrees of conflict. A far left communist who wants to like, you know, sterilize kids. Yet we are we are adversaries in this culture war. And then like some current
Starting point is 01:50:53 liberal who is like agrees that we shouldn't be doing those things, but wants to vote for Biden anyway. OK, you're someone that I'm going to debate, but I'm not going to insult you. We're going to we're going to have a conversation. And then you've got someone like Ben where we agree on a lot of things and then disagree on like foreign funding. And I'm like, but I mostly agree with him. So it's like, it's great.
Starting point is 01:51:12 Thank you for helping us win where we need to win. And we can disagree where we disagree. Yeah, I agree. I don't, I don't, everybody hates the Daily Wire so much. Or at least I feel like in a lot of my circles. And I'm like, I love the Daily Wire. I watch the Daily Wire all the time. Right. And I'm further right than all of them. And it's also too, I feel like in a lot of my circles and I'm like I love the I watch the Daily Wire all the time
Starting point is 01:51:25 and I'm further right than all of them and it's also too I think like I think Cassandra was saying this about Matt Walsh like she doesn't like Ben but she loves Matt Walsh I love Michael Knowles now I shifted my love I love Michael Knowles right now and I think that'd be a sign of a good network right if there are hosts that you can't stand but other ones
Starting point is 01:51:41 that you love it's better than being like yeah I kind of like a couple of them. They all kind of say the same thing. I think, I think Walsh and Knowles are both geniuses. Like Michael Knowles, uh, speeches impressed me greatly.
Starting point is 01:51:54 I was like, I can't remember the last time I was just watching. I was like, this man is a genius. He's absolutely fantastic. And, and Matt Walsh is, uh,
Starting point is 01:52:02 also great. Uh, I disagree with Matt Walsh on a handful of things. And that's great. But I'm just like, I watch their clips and I'm like, these guys are fantastic. No wonder they've built such a massive following and have made so much money for the Daily Wire and themselves. I admire Michael Knowles' personality. He's so kind and sweet or something.
Starting point is 01:52:20 He can play the guitar and sing, too. Yeah, easy and fun about him. And even when he's talking about serious issues that he can be hard on, I'm a fan. I do think it's funny, though. I don't watch Ben Shapiro. And everyone's like, he's the guy who runs the Daily Wire. I watch his clips sometimes when I see him. But I more frequently will see Matt Walsh's stuff.
Starting point is 01:52:39 I don't watch a lot of their stuff. But Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles, I watch relatively often. I like the Morning Wire. It's set up like NPR. It's real quick, 15 minutes. It's easy. I like the Morning Wire. It's set up like NPR. It's real quick, 15 minutes. It's easy. I like the Daily Wire. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 01:52:48 All right. Oh, and they're doing a new show that's coming out. Animated cartoon. Are they? I think Adam Caroll's in it. They're doing great stuff. I'm jealous, for sure. You did cool stuff like the car.
Starting point is 01:53:01 That was amazing. Oh, yeah. We got a car. Yeah, Cody Dennison. Shout out. We're really excited. Awesome. Sick. Going to be fun. think the he's got a race on saturday is that right i think he was saying saturday yeah man it's too bad i'm gonna be in i'm gonna be in florida actually sunday i mean they usually are on sundays okay government officials are scared of being criticized. Your thoughts? I think they want to censor content outside of Australia, too. I think you're right. Dude, Australia is a crackpot country. Like, it's
Starting point is 01:53:48 got cool people. Shout out to Richie Jackson, who is I think is both Kiwi and Australian. And I know a lot of people from Australia, and they're great. And then the government does all these weird crackpot things. It's like Canada, too. It's a lot of great people in Canada. I got a lot of Canadian friends.
Starting point is 01:54:04 And then their government does this weird crackpot stuff. It's unfortunate. much. It's like Canada too. It's a lot of great people in Canada. I got a lot of Canadian friends. And then their government does this weird crackpot stuff. It's unfortunate. They lock pregnant women up for Facebook posts. That was them, right? Not the UK. So them or the UK? Australia. Yeah, they were going crazy.
Starting point is 01:54:14 Australia created the concentration camps where they took indigenous kids, they have original kids, and they locked them up. And they were like, it's not a concentration camp. And then the kids escaped and were hunted down and rearrested. I totally remember that. Yeah, dude, crazy. There was the video where the guy they they pull up in a van to his house and they were like uh sir you took a covid test not too long ago and it came up negative so we're going to quarantine you and he's like well all right then and he just walks into the van and
Starting point is 01:54:37 then they were like we haven't seen him since and i was like okay like wow i just that's kind of wild people are just like yeah yeah, sure. No problem. And they just get in the van and get taken off and then don't know where they went. But, you know. I think that happens here. I was in, I was in Belgium a while ago and there was this guy who was, you know, six foot tall and made of muscles. And I asked him if he spoke my language and he handed me a Vegemite sandwich. So gross.
Starting point is 01:55:04 You know, you know what that is. All the fans of Men at Work were like, okay, Tim, rolling their eyes. Men at Work are awesome, by the way. Overkill is just a great song. Someone put on the Men at Work playlist like a week ago and now all the Men at Work songs are
Starting point is 01:55:20 I come from the land down under. That's in my head now, by the way. Since you said it. All right. Todd B now, by the way. Such a good song. Since you said it. All right. Todd B says, Tim, did you see that the anti-protesting CA apparently started from an attack earlier that day on an Israeli girl that left her unconscious?
Starting point is 01:55:35 Oh, and please check out Afro Man's new song just released. I did. So a woman got attacked. She had a flag. They put her in the ER. And then people got pissed and so you know and then and then the left is like they attacked us and it's like bro y'all y'all took space and land and violence begets violence i mean like what do you think's gonna happen and also shout
Starting point is 01:55:53 out to afro man uh who made the hunter got high song i believe that was bass records too shout out to bass records and uh that was so good they got got Afro-man to sing Hunter Got High. Yeah. That's solid. Yeah. Classic. Let's go. The Sinister Sibling says,
Starting point is 01:56:15 the anti-Semitism bill and these scenes at the colleges only further convinced me that the separation of church and state was a terrible idea. Correct. No. Ooh, a debate. Maybe it's a culture war episode. You have one minute. Kidding me.
Starting point is 01:56:27 Well, he knows I want Christian. I want a Christian nation. Theocratic fascism? Well, not fascism, but I want like a- That's Matt Walsh's joke, I think. No, I honestly think that like, this is gonna, because I said I wasn't gonna say this,
Starting point is 01:56:42 but here we go. I want a Christian nation to have Christian people living with Christians. Israel can have a country with Jewish people. Muslim countries have that. Now, listen, I'm not saying that the Christian countries, you can't live here if you're something else, but I want our morals and values codified into law. I think that that's the only...
Starting point is 01:57:04 Well, and we were founded out of a Christian worldview. Yes. What morals and values are not codified into law that you feel should be? The way that marriage is. The way that certain relationships are. I mean, there's all kinds of things. Abortion. I mean, what do you want me to say?
Starting point is 01:57:21 There's a ton of things. Abortion isn't codified. It should be. It should be murder. I mean, I do you want me to say? There's a ton of things. Abortion isn't codified. It should be. It should be murder. I mean, I can keep going. Okay, but the point that I'm making is... Mandatory church on Sundays. I'm fine with that. Actually, I liked it when Pennsylvania had, like on Sundays
Starting point is 01:57:36 you can't buy beer. I think even now in Pennsylvania you still can't supposedly buy a car on Sundays, right? In Virginia you can't. Can we start observing these things? No. Why? Because I don't want to.
Starting point is 01:57:47 But it took away from families and from that rest time alone. Now we're going, going, going. God wanted us to take- It created a work-centric culture. Lisa, you're completely wrong. You're completely wrong. Okay, what we need is for our police to be instructed by the priests and to i'm kidding how i mean i think that we would be before we need to make significant like
Starting point is 01:58:13 significant changes like that i think if we just actually enforce the law that we already have that would probably take care of a lot of the problems i mean all like people are talking about the the you know we talked about the the new law that they just passed about the about hate speech and stuff like that all they we have sufficient property laws to take care of it they were getting wrapped up because of the property laws dumb like that i think that's dumb and they we should what do you think what do you think that christians are gonna do i'm gonna say jesus christ they're gonna throw me in jail do you know that mother's and we should enforce the laws in the books. What do you think the Christians are going to do? I'm going to say Jesus Christ and they're going to throw me in jail. Do you know that Mother's Day tends to be the lowest crime rate in most – the day that has the lowest crime rate in most cities?
Starting point is 01:58:52 Wow. And I find that really interesting, right? I mean, it's Mother's Day, not Father's Day. Because mama doesn't play around. Right. And also you're supposed to be with your mom. You're supposed to be with your family. I think the – all – like theoretically our laws are supposed to help reinforce our cultural values.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Correct. And you could go over which ones are supposed to be where and what infringes on freedom. But ultimately, Christianity supports a strong family unit, and that is important for the culture of a nation. Remember that video where there was that teenager at a riot protest thing in LA? And the mom saw him, and she grabbed him, and she was screaming at him, and she was hitting him with like a shoe or something awesome and the kid's like mom mom and she's like what are you doing what is wrong with you and she like drags him away we need more yeah well how many times do we see things happen we're like where are these people's parents like where is someone saying like you're acting ridiculous or hey you're loved and affirmed at home and you don't need to
Starting point is 01:59:41 do these crazy things for attention online they They're so nuts and narcissists. They're cheering them on thinking they're going to get some Facebook likes out of it too. Like, look at my daughter. These people are nuts. Let's grab one more super chat here from The Topping Show.
Starting point is 01:59:54 He says, Hey Tim, how do you combat censorship on YouTube? Notice at times when I search your channel it won't say new episodes on the search bar
Starting point is 02:00:00 or send notifications. It's now happening to my channel making it near impossible to grow seeing more views on Rumble. or send notifications. It's now happening to my channel, making it near impossible to grow, seeing more views on Rumble. That's right. YouTube is censoring. My view is that YouTube puts negative pressure
Starting point is 02:00:14 on anti-establishment and positive pressure on establishment. So basically it's attrition. They want to make sure people slowly forget about you, but only slowly. And they want to make it impossible for new channels in the anti-establishment space to grow. But if you're pro-establishment, you'll see a positive uptick. So there are a lot of shows that are completely wrong and they get things totally wrong all the time. And for some reason, they're just seeing
Starting point is 02:00:39 great growth. And then there are other channels that are anti-establishment. And I mean, you can look at Crowder, for instance, they give them a strike on everything. We just had two of our biggest, our two biggest episodes were deleted three years later. Like, oh, they broke the rules. Spare me. It's, it's the game. Um, what you have to do is build a business outside of YouTube. That's why we have the Tim cast memberships so that in the event that something happens on YouTube, we have that sort of safety net. That being said, like if we got banned from YouTube, it's basically I mean, it's like a third of the business shuts down. I don't know how we operate without YouTube. That's a reality.
Starting point is 02:01:20 So follow us on Rumble, Rumble dot com slash Timcast IRL, as well as Timcast and Timcast news are all in Rumble. I got a bunch of channels and, uh, follow me at Timcast on X and Instagram. Those are gonna be important for posting clips there as well. We're also available on all podcast platforms. So in the event we did get new, we do get new from YouTube. We're still on Spotify and Apple. And those are actually large for us.
Starting point is 02:01:41 We get somewhere like a third or more of our, our traffic on or more of our traffic on the podcast, not on YouTube, surprisingly. So we're there. And go to TimCast.com. Click join us because we are going to the uncensored call-in show now in just a few minutes where we are going to debut the new single from All That Remains. Divine. Exciting. It's an honor and a privilege, sir. It's an honor.
Starting point is 02:02:04 So smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. We'll wrap up there before we head out. But Lisa, you want to shout anything out? No, just make sure you guys tune into the Culture War at Tenet Media on Fridays. What are we doing this Friday? Abortion. You're doing an abortion live on Culture War? No, no.
Starting point is 02:02:24 Kristen Hawkins. Even Phil was shocked by that one. We had a pastor that was with a pastor organization. He had a family emergency last minute. So we have another pastor that was his friend that's coming in who's actually local. So it's going to be Kristen Hawkins. Do we have like a pro-abortionist? They're both.
Starting point is 02:02:38 Well, he's a pastor that is pro-choice. And she is a pro-life activist. Interesting. This will get heated. I go hard on the legal arguments there, so it'll be fun. So, yeah. And we're going to talk about how they think it affects the election and things like that.
Starting point is 02:02:56 Cool. That's very cool. Now, there's a couple really spicy ones coming up after that. So, I think May 17th. The 17th. Look forward to the 17th. That one's going to be. Should we just say who it is?
Starting point is 02:03:06 I mean. We've got Pearl, Lauren Chen, Isabella Riley, and Rachel Wilson. All in one show? Yeah. They're all coming. Wow. Yeah. I'm excited.
Starting point is 02:03:18 I feel like I'm going to be sitting here with my hands up. I was going to say, good luck to Kellen, who's pressing the button. Surrounded. I'm going to be babysitting. I'm going to be watching Isabella's daughter. Yeah, you should come down. pressing around. I'm going to be babysitting. I'm going to be watching. Yeah, you should come. We should come down.
Starting point is 02:03:26 I am. I have going to help with the baby. She's there. So, but yeah, Phil, I am Phil that remains on Twix. I am Phil.
Starting point is 02:03:33 It remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. If you click the link down below in the description of this here video, you can pre-order the pre-save our new single divine it'll be available on friday the 30th the video goes up then as well um the band is all that remains you can catch us this summer on the destroy all enemies tour with megadeth mudvayne and all that remains it's going to start out on on august 2nd and it goes until september 29th uh you can follow the band on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Deezer or Dozer or whatever it's called,
Starting point is 02:04:09 you know, Pandora, you know, the internet. And don't forget, the left lane is for crime. Hannah Clare. It's been so fun to be here. I'm glad we got to do a show together, Lisa. Me too. I'm Hannah Clare Brimlaw. I'm a writer for scnr.com.
Starting point is 02:04:20 That's Scanner News. You can follow all of our work at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram. If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Instagram at HannahClaire.b, and I'm on Twitter at HZBrimlow. Thank you guys so much for tuning in. Bye, Serge. See you later, Hannah Claire.
Starting point is 02:04:33 See you guys. Bye, Serge. We will see you all over at TimCast.com for the debut of Divine by All That Remains. We'll see you then. Yeah! AHHHHH

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