Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1017 Antifa Far Leftists TORCH 15 Cops Cars As Cops PURGE Pro Hamas Camps w/Matt Kibbe

Episode Date: May 3, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil, & Serge are joined by Matt Kibbe to discuss 15 Portland police cars being set on fire, the Daily Wire obtaining a gag order against Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes to be reinstat...ed on X, and residents of Baton Rouge seceding and forming a new city called St. George. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yesterday, of course, was May Day. That is a leftist holiday. And with all the protests going on across these universities across the country, of course, we were expecting to see some violence. Now, the police have been tearing down many of these camps. They tore down the UCLA camp. They were seen on camera firing beanbags into the crowd, though many people reported rubber bullets. I'm pretty sure they were beanbags. You can take a look at the weapons they were using. They looked like the less lethal shotguns. But we got news from the Postmillennial. Fifteen Portland police vehicles were torched. Now, they say it's suspected arson in their headline. And I'm going to give you my opinion. I don't think the cars spontaneously combusted
Starting point is 00:00:38 at night. I'm assuming someone set them on fire on a leftist protest day where leftists were smashing up buildings in the downtown area. So we're going to go ahead and make the assumption Antifa torched these police vehicles. There you go. The police in Portland were tearing down the Portland camps. And we have a rather humorous video of the children playing cops and robbers with half sought and half garbage cans running into trying to, I guess, tackle a cop and then getting arrested because these kids are playing games. They're playing revolutionary and empire. It's a silly game. We'll talk about that. We got a bunch of other news. A big story that's been going around is the question of
Starting point is 00:01:13 whether the Daily Wire, they've been accused of gagging Candace Owens so she cannot speak about any disparage to the company. And that actually inhibits her ability to debate Ben Shapiro. And so many people are saying the Daily Wire is acting disingenuously, but we can't break that down. And then, of course, in the Donald Trump corruption, I should say the corrupt Donald Trump trial, where they've got no statutory basis in law, Trump is being held in contempt again. The judge has not issued his ruling. They're saying he violated the gag order for a fourth time. But guess what? It's got to the point where even CNN defended Trump after they were forced to bring up insults from Michael Cohen. And they said, you know, they read it on air. And Jake Tapper was like, I apologize in advance for saying these things. And then said, which we will mention on the show, but we'll wait a little bit, what Michael Cohen called Trump. And then Dana Bash said this gives Trump credibility that Cohen is attacking him and he needs to respond.
Starting point is 00:02:10 He's targeting his presidential campaign. So we'll talk about all of that. Before we do, head over to castbrew.com and buy coffee. We got great coffee here. We got Appalachian Nights. Of course, we also have Alex Stein's Prime Time Grind, two times two times caffeine drink responsibly heaven forbid more people start acting like Alex Stein but you know look we're selling coffee so we're gonna we're gonna promote it but uh good on you Alex Stein we're big fans of his show and his work and then of course we have Appalachian Knights and uh Rise
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Starting point is 00:05:25 Here's the first story from the Post Millennial. 15 Portland police vehicles torched in suspected arson attack. The suspected arson attack came after Antifa destroyed businesses downtown for Mayday. I love you, Post Millennial. And I understand why you said suspected. But I'm just going to go ahead and say I don't think the vehicle spontaneously combusted. And I don't think someone accidentally tripped and fell and dropped their kerosene and lighter onto 15 vehicles all in the same night.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I think it's fair to say it's arson. And I think it's fair to say, you know, they put in the subtitle that it came on a day when Antifa destroyed businesses downtown. It also came on a day when theifa destroyed businesses downtown. It also came on a day when the police are raiding their encampment and arresting people at Portland University. So I would just like to say, in my humble opinion, Antifa and far leftists torched a bunch of police vehicles yesterday. You know, the challenging thing with this is we've been covering this stuff for so long that i feel like it is you ever you ever uh like drink a coke or something and then try and eat
Starting point is 00:06:33 ice cream right afterwards and it tastes not it's like there's no sweetness to it because you've like desensitized that's what it's like yeah it's like we've we've covered so much antifa violence it's like only 15 i mean I think this could be potentially global warming because global warming is responsible for so much it's impossible to tell what it's up to next no I think you're right
Starting point is 00:06:51 I can understand why Post Millennial is doing this if you haven't you know arrested and convicted someone you have to say a lead and be careful of the language but probably probably
Starting point is 00:06:59 the rioters who were involved with the Antifa also burned the car these were revolutionary communists. They are terrorists. And I endorse the state stomping the hell out of them. Find them. Throw them in jail because they are trying to destroy the country.
Starting point is 00:07:18 They could kill people. Yeah. I mean, that's crazy, dude. They openly say that they're revolutionary. They say they want to overthrow the United States. This is what they say it's crazy they openly say that they're revolutionary they say they want to overthrow the united states this is this is what they say give them the smoke they are begging for give them the smoke that is of course it's called cs smoke yeah do you know what cs stands for i'm a genuine question because i want to look that up i don't in uh in in ferguson when they fired the tear gas it's called
Starting point is 00:07:45 cs smoke and so cnn said they're not using tear gas in fact it's just smoke and meanwhile everyone's going like yes because they don't call it tear gas and the other thing too i learned is that uh pepper spray is apparently also tear gas yeah it's just a different like powdered the well cs stands for it's um a very long word meaning chemicals. And as I am not Ian the scientist, I cannot read it to you. That's what the internet is trying to tell me right now. Because they have canisters that say CS smoke. CS gas.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Oh, I see. Chlorobenzelmullanine. Yeah. See why I avoided it? Really? I think that means not good for your eyes. Yeah, so they just call it CS gas. It's a Latin name.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Chlorobenzol malononitrile. I can understand why the police call it CS gas now. Tim, I think you're being too kind to Post Millennial because they buried the lead here. The real story is that there's still 15 cars in Portland to burn. Oh, right. Because I've been to Portland recently. And it's how are they? How are they doing? It's kind of a festering hellhole. Really? Yeah. I went there. The last time I was there was years ago. It was funny. There was some video. I can't remember why people
Starting point is 00:09:01 are posting it. But it was a video of like Proud Boys marching. And they claimed this old video was a video of something else. And I was like, I know that's fake news because I was at that march. I know where that is. They were in Portland. And it was crazy because I was there a few days in advance. And so I'm walking around. I'm going to the store.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I think I like bought a phone or something. I needed to like get an upgrade. And there are signs that they take posters saying this person is a nazi and it's pictures of like random people and i'm like i don't know what this is but they were everywhere they just put up these posters of people and now over the past several years we've seen all the news that the downtown area is basically gone nobody wants to have a business there it's like a zombie apocalypse now and and all the businesses finally gave up and people are now working from home. So there's no people during the day, which means there's no restaurants,
Starting point is 00:09:49 there's no nightlife. And it's just, they killed it. They're collapsing the economy there. I remember listening to this interview NBR did with local business owners, probably on the downtown area of, I know it was in Portland. And they were saying, well, we don't necessarily believe in the things they believe in, but we will put the signs up so we know that we're friendly to their causes. And basically in hopes of being left alone. And it never worked. Never works. These people that are that are, you know, trying to fight the cops and trying to, you know, attack the cops and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:10:18 These are the same people that shot that MAGA dude. Like they're of the exact same political bent, right? They're the same people that would smash in a building, you know, smash in someone's property because they didn't have the right sticker in the window or whatever. These are the same people that will stop emergency services from getting through their protest
Starting point is 00:10:44 while people are having heart attacks or dying. They're all revolutionary communists. They specifically say they want to take down the United States. Give them the fight they're looking for. Let the government send the police in and go get them. I'm seeing all these people on social media being like, the free speech warriors are not so for free speech anymore. And I'm like, oh, the commies are crying.
Starting point is 00:11:09 These far leftists are smashing up people's businesses, putting people's lives in danger. And then they get mad when the police comes in and gives them exactly what they ask for. People, look, they say the ends justify the means. That's what these people believe. And I'm like, so this is what they're saying. They think they're justified in smashing things up, burning vehicles, and they've killed people because in the end, it'll be justified.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah, in the end, they will create government doing just this. So when they demand government based on violent force, I say the police should go in and respond in kind under the law, which the law allows to stop violent criminals because they're saying they want government of force. Okay, well, we can oblige. The police can go in and stop you from using this force, countering your force with theirs. And then we can all clap and say, congratulations, you've got what you've asked for. Speech is speech. Violence is violence.
Starting point is 00:12:07 There's a pretty bright line there. And violence should never be tolerated. I have a friend that lives in San Francisco. She's very successful. She refuses to leave Haight-Ashbury because she believes that the Marxists that run the government absolutely want to run away anybody who's successful, anybody that could actually keep the city, restore the city, make it worth living there again. And she won't do it. She's not leaving because she thinks that's exactly what they want. It looks to me like Portland, the thugs have won that fight. Take a look at this tweet from Andy Ngo. He says,
Starting point is 00:12:42 at the May Day Antifa riot downtown Portland, the extremists in the Black Block marched from the Portland State Library encampment where they threw mortar explosives and smashed up businesses and property.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Portland police made no arrests. The attack was preannounced on social media. Take a look at this. May Day scavenger hunt. Here's a list of business orgs
Starting point is 00:13:01 who profit off the settler colony of Israel that we'll pass on the march. Keep your eyes out and take whatever autonomous action feels good. And they label these businesses. They literally just threw Israel's name in there as an excuse to go and smash up these corporations. And if these were private businesses owned by a person, I would endorse the person getting out there and defending their business like and no
Starting point is 00:13:25 one who's going on this scavenger hunt so to speak is actually going to verify any of this no read this piece of paper and be like haha cool yeah uh it's it's sort of illogical but it's it does speak to the control this movement has over the masses that it's it's uh brought together they are willing to uh create an ideological incentive for them to do chaos and the people are not willing to say hey i'm an independent thinker and this is why i don't think i'm going to do that they are a tiny minority that intimidate the normal people that want to live normal lives that go to work every day that do the things that keep society together and keep society going they and they they do this because they know
Starting point is 00:14:06 that they don't have anything to lose because they have no lives. They don't have jobs. They don't have to go to work. They're not the normal people. So they go and they make a stink and they scare the crap out of the normal people. So the normal people are afraid to do anything about it.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Idle hands, devil's playground. But I also wonder, you ever see that meme where it was, I don't know if it was like a guy telling a story in some post. He said that he rented an apartment and then one day he heard a gunshot and he got worried and he went out to his backyard or whatever and looked around and he saw his neighbor holding a gun and his neighbor said, don't worry, that was me just fired into the ground. I do this every once in a while to keep the property taxes down something like that insane yeah i i wonder if what's actually happening is it it it would be actually a hilarious story that there's a
Starting point is 00:14:55 conspiracy of wealthy uh like generationally wealthy white liberals who live in portland who want to buy up as much property as possible. So every night they dress up like Antifa and claim, oh, Israel, oh, geez. Then they cause all this damage. Everybody leaves. They sink the property value. They buy it up. And then three years, they stop doing it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:15 Ryan Long had a comedy bit about this Antifa glass repair. And he's like, by night, we are Antifa. By day, we repair windows. And then they get a call like, oh, wow. Oh, I can't believe that happened yeah we'll be right there with the new window for you i actually do have i know a guy like we're mutuals on uh on xbox live that are that repairs windows in portland he was like he was so shameless shameless if you're listening someone already commented in chat shameless we
Starting point is 00:15:43 need you shameless it's it's a video where it's a guy actually Seamus might have already done this it's a guy driving around in like a Porsche or like a Model S plaid and he's got golden like gold gold diamond studded sunglasses and a grill and it's just like a glass repair company it's there are I learned today that they're like the majority of renters in the u.s the people who rent their homes or apartments live in basically like 240 counties of the nations like just over 3 000 and a lot of them are obviously like around la in new york city you know things like that and so i would be interested to see sort of the cross map of antifa activity
Starting point is 00:16:23 and renters like people who aren't actually tied to the community. They're sort of claiming social ties to the community. But if it got really bad, they would all leave if they wanted to. So anyways, that's for my think tank that I just invented right now. I'll create that map for you guys. What is your friend saying
Starting point is 00:16:39 that she doesn't want to leave because she thinks they want her to leave? But there's nothing you can do about it. Like the system will be broke. It's very difficult to build a machine it's very easy to throw a wrench in the spokes yeah well she she's of means where she's fighting back politically and she's she's actually trying to to seed people who aren't crazy in the government because i mean portland only happened because the mayor and the city council and eventually the police let it happen. They let it fester and they let it get big.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Pretty soon, it becomes this culture where all of these kids are doing this for a living. You don't have to let it be that way. The question is, can you ever take it back can you actually ever restore it so that that people who who work and produce and create and and and generate revenue for the city will they actually come back that's that's a question because you can also just migrate yep and move somewhere else and live somewhere else i don't know i kind of recommend it i think the issue is culture and these cities the reason antifa is getting away with it is there is no culture. Imagine if the overwhelming majority of people agreed with each other on how these things should be dealt with. You wouldn't need to worry about anything. You wouldn't need to fight at all. The idea that you're going to government, we better get good people in means good people aren't trying to get in and you're actively trying to encourage people to engage. And that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:18:06 But it does mean that there's no shared culture. If you go to a rural neighborhood, a tight-knit, small community, Antifa shows up, the locals are going to come out and they're going to be like, don't try it. And they're going to be in agreement. The cops are going to be standing alongside the people who live there. In Portland, the cops go, I don't care. I'm not getting involved. I don't care who you are because there's no community. There's no culture. So then
Starting point is 00:18:27 you've got businesses being like, the cops won't defend me. They vote against the cops. What do you expect? Yeah. And the cops are like, well, the government won't take our side, even though they're writing our checks. I mean, I think what's interesting is that a lot of this is not solution oriented. Whereas if you have investment in your community, if you have a shared culture, you want to see it thrive. You are part of something and you don't look around saying like, oriented. Whereas if you have investment in your community, if you have a shared culture, you want to see it thrive. You are part of something and you don't look around saying like, bah, burn it all down. But with all of these attacks, especially in Portland, it's ultimately about the chaos. The chaos is the ends to all of this. It's the purpose for it.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And that means that the city is not something they're trying to preserve or add into, so to speak. It is a political monoculture. I mean, one of the problems is that there was no competition for governance. Everybody's a Democrat, but not everybody's just a Democrat. They're a woke, check all the boxes Democrats. And the mayor, I think he's still the mayor. I forget his name. But he was unwilling. Was it Tom Wheeler? Tom Wheeler. Yeah, it's still Wheeler. And he was unwilling to do anything about them. And they repaid him by showing up at his apartment building and terrorizing him.
Starting point is 00:19:36 That's Portland. Look, man, we have a bunch of laws in the books that aren't enforced. We have a bunch of laws that are enforced that aren't even in statutory law. Police in New York creating frozen zones. And then the issue is who controls power and what is the community willing to accept or not accept. Portland will not accept police arresting protesters. So the protesters destroy the city. And then these people who refuse to complain about it
Starting point is 00:20:05 and let it happen, flee and then bring their politics to other cities. Yeah, it's not, it doesn't take. It's rat utopia experiment. It doesn't take a lot of like, for a police force to deter and prevent that type of behavior.
Starting point is 00:20:20 It doesn't take a lot of like, bashing heads together and stuff they the police generally know the people that are causing problems in an area you talk to police and they see the same faces all the time they get to know the people because they do they do spend some time in the community and the people that cause problems continuously cause problems. The police do have the ability and the know-how to clean an area up and make these kind of behaviors stop. You just have to have a DA that will, you have to have a legislature or a judiciary that will keep these people off the streets.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Let's jump to this next story. Derivative, police move in to clear Gaza camp from Portland State University library arrest made. It's not so much this story that I want to talk about. It is a video explaining and helping you understand what's going on. I can tell you very simply. Portland is the city equivalent of a mom at an ice cream shop with her nine-year-old son who's going, Mom, I want three scoops of ice cream.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And she goes, okay, please just stop yelling and I'll give you whatever you want. That's what it is. And I'll show you. With this video from Oli London. Students wearing, let me pause real quick. Students wearing masks and bike helmets charge at police using garbage can shields. As they rush towards police, they trip over and fall in the dirt. Okay, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Well, here's the video of the police making the arrests of these criminals and here's how they respond. This is hilarious. Look, they're charging. They're charging the police. Go get them, buddy. You got this. Yeah. Yeah. Here we
Starting point is 00:21:59 go. Watch. It's so good. This person on the right actually charged and attacked a police officer you're going to jail with a garbage can that's a felony look at this look i i want to say this i first i am grateful these people are so stupid that they're you and and they're playing make believe that they are using garbage cans because we don Because we don't want these people to be going out with actual weapons or anything like this. But they may as well be going out with plunger darts bought from Walgreens with a little tiny go and little suction cups on it. They have Nerf guns.
Starting point is 00:22:36 They're like, we've got this. It's better than them going out there and actually being violent. But it shows you these kids are playing. They're playing like children with plastic shields and charging into police thinking they're playing a game and it's because the adults have left the room they're not they're not taking care of the young people in this and now you've got a bunch of permanent children running around smashing things you take a look at that video from columbia where the police barricade the door and the woman goes, oh, my God, it's finals. Can I go home?
Starting point is 00:23:06 It's like, lady, you're committing felonies. You're probably going to go to jail. You're not going home. But I blame their parents. A whole generation of disgusting, lazy, spineless, disaffected parents. And I'm offended by it. I think Bad Religion wrote a song about it i think one of the interesting things uh with all of this is that they are such a hive mind
Starting point is 00:23:33 they're looking for validation you know that one guy with the the trash can you know shield was like this is my moment i am a hero for the cause here we go even though like what did he think was gonna happen there's no long term and the other part is that portland is having a terrible time there aren't that many police in portland uh i think in 2021 police recruitment hit an all-time low and crime was just on the rise i mean i don't think anyone who's interested in law enforcement is like and i'll i'll be a police officer in portland because they don't want to deal with this right if you could get a nice job in a nicer suburb or you know or somewhere else, you would do that because this is just ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And I think ultimately you're kind of at the mercies of these impulsive perma-children. I think these kids are actually surprised that the cops are going to do anything because the expectation and the tradition and the history of the last, whatever it is, four or five years is that we can do whatever we want we want and no one's gonna no one's gonna push back and and then he then he's on his ass and what just happened well that's not how it is not only that
Starting point is 00:24:35 like like tim was saying this is probably a symptom of kids that have not had any real discipline growing up right now i'm not talking about physical discipline but like i know yeah like i know there are a lot of people my age that are raising kids that they haven't their kid has never heard them say no you know that like has never heard it's a kid in ice cream shop screaming that he wants an extra scoop that is that is what's going on with a lot of this and then they run into reality which is a police officer that said that has been told no all these kids are going to jail but so all those police officers are going to round you up and they're going to throw you into a but into a van to bring you to jail and the problem is however when things like this happen where the kid charges a cop full speed with a
Starting point is 00:25:21 plastic shield like a moron they'll likely just get let go now they may get charged or something and then their parents are going to complain you take a look at when they when they were torching dc on trump during trump's inauguration the protesters got paid millions of dollars and now it probably it broke down to several thousand dollars each or something like that or it could have even been more than i think it was like over a million bucks split between a couple hundred people so the adults have left the room. These are 20-year-olds who are behaving like 7-year-olds. Their behavior will not change.
Starting point is 00:25:51 They have no honor. They have no integrity. They have no understanding of how the world works. I beg and pray that they get the world they're asking for because then they will cry buckets when they realize what they've done to this beautiful society that we once had they're literally getting it now no they're not no no but i'm talking about getting the the fighting with cops and stuff like that but that's that's make-believe for them they're getting let go i'm talking about when bears are roaming the city streets because there's no police anymore when a guy breaks into their house and they're going oh no why am i being robbed all of a sudden there's
Starting point is 00:26:22 human crap all over the streets and And every time this stuff happens, they just go, I blame the cops. There's a great post. Let me see if I can pull this up from Defiant L's. You guys know Defiant L's on Twitter and Instagram? Let me pull this one up. See if I can find it.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And it's, I don't think Instagram wants me to actually find it. Okay, here we go. Let's see if I can pick this one up. Here we go. Joshua P. Hill says, Today starts with cops attacking students for their solidarity with Gaza and Atlanta, Chicago, and Princeton, New Jersey. The Free Palestine Movement, like every single movement for a better world, requires the abolition of the police.
Starting point is 00:27:00 And then two days later, he tweeted, White supremacists are now marching in charleston west virginia with no police in sight children the abolition of the police so there's like all of these cities but portland again is is this this festering uh uh example of everything they do wrong it's not they talk about restorative justice but what they mean is catch and release no matter what you do no matter what you burn No matter what you do, no matter what you burn, no matter what you break, we're going to pick you up and then let you go without even being arrested. And we've done a documentary about restorative justice.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Real restorative justice teaches young people who do something wrong accountability. They have to say, I did that. I stole that. And I feel they have to look their victim in the eye. And instead, what they say in Portland, oh, this is restorative justice, but it's no justice at all. It's no responsibility. They're not being taught to take ownership of their actions. Yeah, there's no accountability. I find, I'm loathe to bring up all the college campus protests, but I think this is something
Starting point is 00:28:03 we're seeing with the generation of children who are told activism and virtue signaling is the most important thing that you could do, prioritize it over anything else. And I think, I agree, there's sort of a lack of discipline in the home, there's a lack of consequences, but they think that they are on the right side of history and therefore there aren't consequences, which is very different, I think, than people who did protest for civil rights in the past or other people who have taken to protesting as a form of political activism. I think previously people knew you were taking a risk,
Starting point is 00:28:32 that you would face arrest, that there could be consequences that could affect you long-term, but you really felt like this was worth it. This is like the opposite, saying we shouldn't face consequences because what we're doing is the most important thing ever. It's almost delusional. Again, I think I talk about this a little bit too much, but when you're
Starting point is 00:28:51 a young person, if you're looking around and even if it's just 30% of people your age, if they're acting like this, does that make you want to be like that? I mean, if you grew up in Portland or if you went to college there and you love it as a city, but you're watching it get torched, do you look at these people and say, well, keep up the good work. This is going great. Or do you say like, I think I think of myself as being on sides with you, but actually you're making my life impossible. It's I mean, I think what happens is that people take the easy path and you either flee or you join. Yeah. And that's that's why Portland is burning. Do you think there's something
Starting point is 00:29:26 unique about portland that made it um the hotbed yeah they they tolerated too much bs very early on and it became like a cool thing to do like this is like a day camp for these kids right this is a fun thing to do they're part of the cool kids and And now they're, you know, they're going to F around and find out that, um, maybe at some point, even these cities don't tolerate that kind of behavior because, because it's, it's a very practical thing. Like if, if they run out of a tax base at some point, the government says, you know, I don't think so. I think people leave. I think, uh, what happens, what we are seeing is when the summer of love happened those who are more inclined to merit to to build and be responsible leave what's left is well what happens if you have 10 children in a classroom and the teacher goes i
Starting point is 00:30:20 can't do this i'm done and leaves well the kids are going to start just doing random things. They're going to trash the place. They're going to be drawing all over the walls. It's going to be bedlam. So I'd like to believe that in Portland, there's a breaking point, and people finally say, enough. We need to get our city in order. I don't think so. Property values go down, so the people who own buildings will be like, I better just sell this. Well, they're not going to get their asking price, so they'll sell it at a loss to someone who's thinking, wow, 10% under market, I'll take it. And then they go, oops, I shouldn't have bought this. Property values will continue to tank.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Many people will probably default on their loans. We're already seeing this in San Francisco, where large corporations like the Westfield Mall, and I believe it was, what was it, the Hilton or there was another hotel basically told their creditor, you know what, you can have it, buy, and just dipped out and abandoned an entire mall just like in the middle of the city saying there's no point. So what's happening when you have no community is that no one wants to be the person to lay the brick so that every day we can have shelter. And I've experienced this growing up, and it's disheartening. But throughout my life, I have found it has become increasingly difficult to convince people to do any amount of work. I believe it's the millennial generation. I believe millennials are mostly lost.
Starting point is 00:31:39 They want everything, and they want to do nothing. I tell people, I remember back when I was living in Chicago skateboarding and I went to all of my friends and I said, we're always complaining about the harsh winters and our inability to skate. If each of us contribute only 50 bucks a month, we can rent an indoor space. And they went, okay, you do it and then let me know. I'm like, there you go. Now you'll never have it.
Starting point is 00:32:00 But I'll tell you what, when I save the money and I get it, you're not coming because you're lazy. You don't want to contribute. And then what happens? Then they expect to be able to be let in. What's happening now is the people who live in these cities have no community and they say and they decide, I'm going to leave. I don't want to spend any money here anymore.
Starting point is 00:32:17 And then one by one, the building falls apart. Everything's everything starts going to crap. And then you end up with San Francisco and there's just poop all over the streets. And the businesses are abandoned by massive corporations. And there's no one to come in and fix it because nobody wants to lose money. Who's going to spend $10 million in San Francisco hoping the city turns around and their investment improves? Nobody. And you see that in, like, you saw it in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Like, after 2008, after the auto crisis. Not that Detroit was doing great before that, but like after that, there was a serious exodus of people like, and it's really, really hurt. Like Flint's a mess. Like these areas have like really been, been affected. And you, in fact, you can see it throughout the whole Rust Belt. Like as companies leave, jobs leave, and that hurts the place, you know, the people of those places.
Starting point is 00:33:06 So if you have – I am Sean, actual justice warrior. I am Sean 90, I think. He says all the time, and I think he's right, like poverty doesn't drive crime, but crime drives poverty because crime makes investment leave the area. Crime makes people that have means leave. If you have the means to leave, that means you're left with poor people. Your tax base dries up because even though people refuse to acknowledge it, all of the taxes are paid by a small percentage of Americans. So if you drive the wealthy people away, those are also the people that are paying taxes.
Starting point is 00:33:45 That means your services get worse. Your schools get worse. Your police forces get worse. All of this stuff is downstream from crime, from unsafe cities. You need to have, and this was something that I was complaining about when people started talking about ACAB, like the whole ACAB sentiment, right? Not the idea that communities don't support your police forces. That was going to always mean that you were going to get a lower quality police force. And we're seeing those results now. Someone super chatted saying that they think it was the bad parents.
Starting point is 00:34:23 A jazz and not says bad parents were Gen X. I don't think so. Gen Xers for the most part had Gen Z kids and Gen Z kids are turning out to be relatively based. Maybe it's because of because of their circumstances. But I do believe that many boomers were bad parents. I certainly think there are great boomers and there are many boomers who had have great kids and were great parents. I think the the boomers gave us Star many boomers who had uh have great kids and were great parents i think the uh the boomers gave us star trek the next generation brilliant but there are a lot of boomers who were like i don't know what post hippie lazy do whatever you want for their kids
Starting point is 00:34:54 and now their kids are running around smashing things shaving their heads and they're they're going to struggle to survive if any one of these kids in portland and and i know they're adults over the age of 20 but they're functional children you take 10 of those kids and you teleport them instantly into i don't know middle of the middle of alaska oh they're done it's just it's just over now imagine you take 10 young amish people and blink they're all of a sudden in the middle of the woods they're gonna be like well let's get to it and you come back in a week and there's a village and you're like, wow these people know how to build
Starting point is 00:35:29 Do you remember when AOC so infamously said, my generation has never known true prosperity and it was a great punchline but I tried to take it seriously and I have this half-baked sort of Jordan Peterson meets Ayn Rand sort of theory about this, that we have a problem in that the capitalist system actually creates tremendous prosperity.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And the big question is, do I get a third scoop of ice cream? Or do I get the new iPad? Or what is my trauma going to be? Because I don't have everything that I need. And I think there's a crisis in meaning when people don't have everything that I need. And I think, I think there's a crisis in meaning when people don't have to work for anything. And there's, there's, there's a dignity that comes from work. And this is the Jordan Peterson part, but maybe also the Ayn Rand part, that the struggle itself, trying to do something with your life. And if you never had to do any of
Starting point is 00:36:21 that, you're lost. You have no meaning. You have no purpose. So you see Antifa or whatever, and you're like, I'm going to go join that because I got nothing else. Yeah, I agree. I also think it creates a sense of envy. I think when you have a lot of people who don't really have purpose, when they look at people who do, they're filled with jealousy. And they can't always name it, but they're like, you are living life in a way that I subconsciously know I want. And therefore the fact that you have something I don't is a threat to me. And I think that's part of sort of the materialism that comes with a generation that grew up in prosperity, right? That they have so much that they can't think of
Starting point is 00:37:01 life without it. And they therefore can't empathize with like what they actually need to do to create a life for themselves that's meaning meaningful um it is wild to me how many people that i know who grew up you know very comfortably a lot of them her parents were together provided for them you know they went to college will turn around and be like well capitalism is a terrible system like then tell me which one you would rather live under because you have gotten everything you want out of life because of the system that that you are now deciding is is so evil but they don't think they have it they they don't they don't understand what they have because they didn't ever have to get it and they always they want something else they're lost for meaning and so they're jealous of of the idea that there's
Starting point is 00:37:44 something they don't have yeah well let's uh let's move on to this next story and we'll get into social drama. The New York Post reports Daily Wire obtains gag order against Candace Owens, despite Ben Shapiro wanting debate report. We also have the original reporting from Glenn Greenwald, who says, as the Daily Wire publicly negotiated a debate with Candace Owens, it secretly sought and obtained a gag order against her. The argument being that the reason why the debate has never happened is because while Candace Owens was saying let's debate and they were working out the details behind the scenes, the Daily Wire was saying she can't say these things and thus there won't be a debate. I do believe that Glenn Greenwald's, I'll give you my bias. I think
Starting point is 00:38:25 Glenn Greenwald's report is biased itself. And I think it's largely due to Glenn Greenwald's bias against Israel. But there's probably something here. I think there's more to it than simply the Daily Wire was like, oh, if Candace Owens debates us, we'll look stupid. We better seek a gag order because no arbitrator is going to be like, well, that's legitimate. There's going to be something else behind this. It looks like the story might be that Candace Owens retweeted a video of Andrew Schultz saying Ben Shapiro has exposed himself as someone who can only debate college students
Starting point is 00:38:59 and can't actually debate anybody for real. And the Daily Wire took issue with that and subsequent posts, which were like likes and retweets that were basically insulting and disparaging the company. And they said, hey, knock that off. In Glenn Greenwald's reporting, they mentioned two statements, one from Candace Owen saying that he writes, when asked for comment to be included in the story, Owens replied, I wish I could comment on this, but I can't, can neither confirm nor deny. And then went on to say, Boring said, your story is inaccurate to the point of being false, though he did not specify a
Starting point is 00:39:30 single inaccuracy, nor did he deny that the Daily Wire had sought and obtained a gag order on Owens at the same time they were publicly posturing as wanting a debate with her. The confirmation we obtained of all these facts is indisputable. Boring added, I'm sure you can appreciate how fraught a high-profile breakup like this is. For that reason, we are trying to resolve our issues with Candace privately. The issue I see right here, and this is the example that I use, is that when it comes to statements from Candace Owens, they're fine to accept that she says, I can't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:39:59 When Boring says, you know, we're trying to keep this private, they insinuate that because he's not going into detail, it implies untoward behavior. That's why I say Glenn Greenwald's biased on this one. That being said, the story is interesting, and I'm curious what you guys think as to the debate between Candace and Ben Shapiro and Israel and all that jazz. I mean, it strikes me as hypocritical. I'm mostly on Team Candace on this one because The Daily Wire has made a brand out of being pro-speech. And I get contracts and I get bad breakups with businesses. But this seems particularly duplicitous, saying that I want to debate you, but I'm going to legally shut you down so that I never have to debate you. I don't like it. But that's the assumption that's being made by Glenn Greenwald. The argument being that Glenn's effectively making an opinion piece where he says
Starting point is 00:40:58 we have evidence of a gag order and that is why there is no debate. It would certainly seem that in a legal context, if the Daily Wire was seeking a gag order, no arbitrator would agree with them if they were also publicly asking for a debate. So there seems to be components of the story missing. From what I read, so Chris Burtman, who's Man of Bird on Twitter, he's a writer at Skinner. First off, this weekend that all this blew up, he had some of the funniest takes in response to all of this. He's fun follow if you guys want to check him out um from what i read from his coverage today part of the issue is that uh the daily wire is saying that by calling for this debate she violated uh her agreement with the company which again i don't really feel like i
Starting point is 00:41:40 have a dog in this fight but i think it seems strange that they're saying this back and forth that you had on twitter calling for this debate is the violation of the contract when also Daily Wire employees were participating in it. You know, Ben was in it until he had to log off for religious reasons and then Jerry Boring picked it back up. And so it does seem slightly confusing to me that, you know, they were publicly having this debate with her and then maybe later went back and said, actually, we've decided that that was a violation of our contract. I agree with that. If they're engaging in the conversation and the argument being that Candace Owens posting
Starting point is 00:42:14 Andrew Schultz and other things was disparaging, it seems strange that they would engage in that debate with her. Yeah. It's hard to know without knowing all the language of their contract. And again, like it seems like such an internal debate that I'm always wary to comment on what's going on with another company. Just because like we,
Starting point is 00:42:33 we could never know for sure, unless you're on the ground. But again, from what I read from, from Chris Burtman today, it's this, this fight that was going on is the problem. But again,
Starting point is 00:42:43 they both participated in it. But it seems like the only news we really have on it is from Glenn Greenwald. And I mean, this is what really got me. It's like, he's like, why isn't boring? You know, he says he did not specify a single inaccuracy, nor did he deny. Well, he also says we're trying to keep this private.
Starting point is 00:43:01 When Candace Owen says, can either confirm or deny, they stop there and they just don't even entertain why she would say that. Obviously, she's being gagged, right? So they just go, okay, thank you, Candace. Now, why won't boring elaborate? Well, because if you go to arbitration, the arbitration says, we are going to enforce a gag order. Jeremy, you also have to shut the F up. And so what may have happened is someone at the company said, Candace is posting and liking these things then they pulled in the andrew schultz thing went to the arbitrator and said this is a violation of the non-disparagement and then the and then he said well then you guys all need to stop posting as well and they went
Starting point is 00:43:35 okay and they told candace you need the arbitrator says both like everyone stopped posting and now the daily wire is getting flack because they're not answering glenn's questions yeah and i can understand from if you're gl Greenwald, him saying like, your reporting is false to the point of inaccuracy. Like, you take that personally, especially when you're then like, OK, tell me why. And he's like, I can't, which Jeremy Boring might be legally bound not to. It's just, it's a very specific criticism to levy at a reporter.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Your reporting is incorrect to the point of inaccuracy like but you can't tell me where i went wrong i don't know i would i would be uncomfortable with it as well uh not that you know that excuses any bias i mean look if i'm not even sure what the what this beef started as anymore to be honest with you like i don't know if any of us do i'm not i don't know like the idea that the daily wire says that they want to actually, if that's the case, that they would say, okay, we want to actually debate with you, but then in back channels, if that's the case,
Starting point is 00:44:34 that's probably the lamest thing that you could possibly do, you know? You know, otherwise, like I said, I'm not even sure what they're going to debate about. Like, is it just like, is Israel good or is Israel bad? Is it anti-Semitic to say we shouldn't fund Israel and stuff like that? Is claiming that Israel's policy is similar to the Nazis anti-Semitic? I imagine that's a lot of it. Well, I mean, if they're going to have the debate,
Starting point is 00:45:00 have the debate, shit, or get off the pot. I wonder if the real issue is that like ben and jeremy are going back and forth and then someone else because there's other interested investors involved said hey i don't care y'all need to shut up because she's in violation of non-disparagement and we don't want to deal with this it's probably stupid and boring right yeah and there the the okay ultimately what this comes to is the real issue behind this is literally not ben shapiro and candace owens and daily wire having a gag order or not disparagement we know what the real underlying issue and the reason why this story is getting the news right
Starting point is 00:45:37 it's israel say it it's israel of course it is it it is. It's people who are obsessed with Israel. Glenn Greenwald is hyper-focused on Israel for a lot of reasons. And I'm not saying he's wrong to me. There's a lot of people who live or die by just talking about Israel. It's the only thing they care about. There are a bunch of post-liberal and disaffected liberals who were very much Democrats, come out now on the anti-woke side. When the Israel issue happens, they're instantly standing alongside all the far leftists as it pertains to Israel. And so sure enough, like I do believe Glenn Greenwald is not a credible reporter on a lot of these issues. And there are other issues pertaining to uh that i've questioned him on the past pertaining to
Starting point is 00:46:25 uh foreign uh foreign policy and reporting where i think he is very very biased so now you have the issue of candace owens why she left the daily wire it's funny because everyone's claiming it has to do with criticism of israel and i'm like jeremy boring actually defended her when she criticized like israel policy and like u.s funding he she's welcome to be here. She's allowed to give her opinions. And then her contract ended and she left. And now everyone's like, ah, it's because she criticized Israel. Or it's like, I don't know, her contract ended and she left. She realized she could make more money somewhere else. She didn't want to work with these guys. They don't get along. And so she left. Yeah, I think the big thing is that there was obvious tension between her and Ben Shapiro.
Starting point is 00:47:05 There's that video of him. I think it was at some sort of private dinner, you know, criticizing her pretty intensely. But it is extremely difficult from the outside to say, you know, especially because we're in a political space, like how much is actual political ideological difference as opposed to like personality and contractual, you know, debate. I think there are people who believe similar things that don't get along. And I think there are people who believe completely different things that do get along. It's hard to see when you're sort of enmeshed in all of this, which one is which. I think I think it is, you know, no matter how it plays out, I am sad to say that this debate isn't going to happen. I think it
Starting point is 00:47:43 would have been really interesting. Neither personality involved is obligated to go into personal details on it. But I think some of the topics that they comment on, having had the debate, you know, I think the Internet would have liked it. The Internet would have absolutely liked it. It would have been an absolute S show, though, I think, personally. That's why the Internet would love it. Well, yes. s show though i think personally so that's why the internet would love it well yes let's let's in in in the vein of internet drama surrounding israel let's jump to this next story which starts with the defiant l's post that i'd mentioned in a previous segment this is where a uh i'll give
Starting point is 00:48:19 you the news right away nick fuentes will be unbanned on x elon musk will reinstate his account and allow him back on the platform. How it begins. Welcome to the internet, my friends. Joshua P. Hill, in a tweet that Defiant L's posted, he says, today starts with cops attacking students for their solidarity with Gaza and Atlanta, Chicago and Princeton, New Jersey. The Free Palestine Movement, like every single movement for a better world, requires the abolition of police. Two days later, he tweets, white supremacists are now marching in Charleston, West Virginia, with no police in sight. That kid's a commie, too.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Yes, I'd imagine. And super consistent in his thought, obviously. Elon Musk then responds, goldfish memory. He posted completely contradictory demands only two days apart. Certainly, if I want to steel man his position, it's actually that the police attacked the free Palestine, but didn't attack the white supremacists. Not that he wants police to do so, but we can certainly say, I don't think these people think that deeply, and I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt. In response to Elon Musk's post, one guy, Chris Futris Z, says you work for Jews to Elon Musk's post. One guy, Chris Futurist Z, says you work for Jews, to Elon Musk,
Starting point is 00:49:28 with a post from Nick Fuentes that reads, what does it say about our society that the cops let BLM torch our cities but won't let students criticize Israel? It means Jews control America. That is the obvious conclusion. I certainly don't think that logic is there, but certainly Nick said it. And Elon Musk responded, while I don't condone all the actions of any one group, I must admit to being openly philo-Semitic and generally try to see the good in all people. Goyabin Groyper responds with this AI enhanced photo of Nick Fuentes. I don't know if it's actually enhanced. I'm kidding. He says, bring back Nick Fuentes.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Bring Nick Fuentes back on Twitter. He has been banned since 2021. What happened to your promise, big guy? Elon Musk responds, very well, he will be reinstated, provided he does not violate the law and let him be crushed by the comments and community notes. It is better to have anti-whatever out in the open to be rebutted than grow simmering in the darkness. Ashley St. Clair responded, this will get enormous backlash.
Starting point is 00:50:26 But if it is to be a free speech platform, it is the right move. I say this as someone who has been viciously attacked by his followers for years now. I do believe Nick was also incredibly radicalized as a result of censorship. And then Elon says, fate loves irony, but hates hypocrisy.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I cannot claim to be a defender of free speech, but then permanently ban someone who hasn't violated the law. No matter how much I disagree with what they say, this will probably cause us to be a defender of free speech, but then permanently ban someone who hasn't violated the law, no matter how much I disagree with what they say. This will probably cause us to lose a lot of advertisers and makes me sad, but a principle is a principle. And thus, Elon Musk has pledged to restore Nick Fuentes. And my comment on Twitter is that seeing that I said Elon Musk is based AF. I think Nick is wrong. I think his logic is not sound,
Starting point is 00:51:06 but I certainly believe he has a right to say his opinions and be challenged. And the example I'd like to give is that woman from the Westboro Baptist Church, famously on Twitter, spreading her views, getting challenged and being de-radicalized by the exposure to a larger community. Yeah. So so like it's not like nick has anything to say that is part is worse than other people on twitter there are currently people on twitter that say things that are far more offensive or whatever than than nick says like without a question guaranteed just the fact that his name has left my mouth means that my mentions are going to have some someone's gonna there's gonna to be like a meme of someone pointing at me saying you're a Jew or something like that.
Starting point is 00:51:50 It's like he's the scapegoat for this issue, though. I mean, he is, but it doesn't matter because there's always going to be as long as you're not like banning people at all for talking, banning people for talking about Israel at all. There's going to be people that are going to say things that are, you know, that are going to be, you know, buck wild that are going to be like, you'd expect to find on 4chan and stuff unless you're really policing that. So bringing him back is not going to make the, make Twitter or X any significant,
Starting point is 00:52:16 like significantly different. So I don't see the problem. What do you think, Matt? I unfortunately have been exposed to Nick Fuentes on random occasions, and I've never found anything to like about with him or agree with him on. But I agree with Tim that this is a based move by Elon Musk. You know, thank God for Elon Musk right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Until we get a blockchain solution to social media, all of our eggs are in the Elon Musk basket. And I think that's right. Let's community note the hell out of this guy. And let's forget Nick. I mean, whatever he is, he is. But his followers could use a little bit of exposure to some other ideas. Yeah. See, you know, let's talk about the comment where I said, I don't believe his logic is sound. There's a basic logic test they do where it's performed in IQ tests where they say something like, some men are tall, some tall people play basketball, therefore some men play basketball. And it's like, okay, well, yeah, sure, then some.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Then they'll be like, all men play basketball. And it's like, OK, well, yeah, sure. Then some some. Then there will be like all men are taller than women. All you know, and like, you know, the logic puzzle. Right. So when I say the logic is that sound, it's a great leap. There is so much information missing in that statement that to lead to the conclusion that Jews control America because some protests got shut down by the police while many others were defended. I certainly think there are interests that are pro-Israel, but here's ultimately what it comes to. And I think the reason why Nick should be allowed back
Starting point is 00:53:57 on Twitter, on X, by Elon and why Elon is based, is so that these conversations will emerge. The conversation around, I'll give you one example. You have a lot of people, especially Elad Eliyahu on the show, was making reference to certain comments about Israel, and he says, don't you think that that's anti-Semitic? And I said, criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic. Israel is a government like any other country. I don't hate Muslims when I criticize Saudi Arabia for their policy towards Yemen,
Starting point is 00:54:23 because they have nothing to do with Qatar or what, like Malaysia. Malaysia is Muslim, right? And so I think they have like blasphemy laws over there too. I can criticize their government, and if their government adopts a theocratic system of governance, I can criticize that too. The problem is while you've got people like Allat or Ben or other people saying this thing,
Starting point is 00:54:42 the inverse is many of the fans of Nick, and I don't want to I don't say Nick does this like does this personally, because I don't know. But his followers respond to comments about Israel with comments about Jews every single time. Not not all of them. I'm saying like right now, there will be people in the chat saying Goy and Shabbos. And I'm like, making references to blanket broad Jewish practices because of the government of Israel's actions is exactly what Ben Shapiro and a lot are talking about when they say you are being anti-Semitic. And so if you were to say that because the military industrial complex, which has billions, hundreds of billions invested in their Middle Eastern outpost of
Starting point is 00:55:28 Israel, if you were to take the logic there, because the U.S. is also funding Ukraine much more right now than Israel, they're not coming out and saying Ukraine controls the United States. Certainly there are arguments about the AIPAC and how long it's been around and the strength of their lobby and everything like that. But the the the issue then becomes people believe that because politicians are upset, you know, Biden in particular, over people criticizing US military policy and foreign policy. The response is then Jews as a as a as a whole religious and ethnic group are in control of the united states if you said israel controls the united states i'd still say you were wrong but at least that's closer and you can't like very rarely can you separate not saying that there aren't people
Starting point is 00:56:14 like there aren't people that are separate that make the the arguments but if you have people criticizing israel in a public forum the people that don't like Jews are going to be right there with them. So like being able to delineate between the people that are just criticizing Israel as a state and then people that don't like Jewish people, it's real hard, especially when you're dealing with like random people on the internet or whatever. So it's true of anything, right? Like any topic that you're like, I'm criticizing this, the people who actually hate, you know, if you were to criticize the Catholic church, people who hate Catholics to their core are also going to be there, even if you just generally have an objection to the institution. Here's a quick question.
Starting point is 00:56:55 You know, when it comes to the issue of Ukraine, and we've been just like rabidly anti-funding of Ukraine, no one's accused us of being ukrainian no one's been like oh or like or or being ukraine phobic or anything like that the way that people react about the jews is crazy like i mean you can have a legitimate conversation about about israel and that's fine but you still are going to attract some people that are going to say some whacked out shit about Jews. It happens. Is there like an equal, I was thinking about this when it comes to like, you know, the argument that because there are so many, because Jewish people are overrepresented in media and stuff that shows that they control this that are otherwise.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And I'm like, is there a similar argument about like Arabic and Muslim control of oil? Because I would argue that oil actually is substantially stronger in terms of control of this planet our currency is backed by energy of which the the most dominant form being petroleum and coal our coal our our our dollars backed by the u.s navy nuclear weapons right but the actual function of the dollar's value is energy what is the energy output? And so when you print more, the backing of currency, fiat or otherwise, is the energy output. So when I trade money to someone, I'm exchanging that for, at its root, how much energy they can
Starting point is 00:58:17 put into a system in exchange for me and the direction of that energy. I'd say that the Middle Eastern nations controlling massive portions of global oil trade, the Houthi rebels, you know, firing, shutting down the Red Sea, threatened like half the world's oil trade. Are we sitting here being like Muslims are controlling America because of oil?
Starting point is 00:58:38 Look at OPEC. Look at Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia doing the weapons deals, and then the U.S. is bombing Yemen on behalf of Saudis who are upset about it. Do we come out and say Saudi Arabia controls the United States? The funny thing is, you've got people posting on Twitter these conspiracy theories that Israel was involved in 9-11, and I'm like, Saudis were involved in 9-11, and Saudis are dictating this policy over oil and getting us to bomb people on their behalf. Where's the argument that Saudis or Muslims control the United States?
Starting point is 00:59:03 People say the reason that there's tension with Iran is because of Israel, and there's some truth to that, but they ignore the fact that there's absolutely a fight between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Iran's Shia Muslim, Saudi Arabia's Sunni. There's all kinds of history between the Persians and the Arabs and stuff. There's all kinds of reasons for Iran and Saudi Arabia to not get along. And if it wasn't for the fact that Israel's there to take the heat, there would still be regional conflict between Iran and other countries. Because it's not a monolith in the Middle East.
Starting point is 00:59:41 You've got, you still, like the Kurds are fighting. There's still the civil war in syria like sure there's the focus of israel that everyone's focused on now globally but it's not like the the middle east is a peaceful area now granted people are going to say oh the u.s did it and there might be might be some some some validity to that but even going back to like buff to like i mean the last time it'd be it'd have to be before the like to the ottoman empire before when there was when it was like fairly at peace you know so it's not like the the it's not like israel's the only the only tinderbox in the middle east people are there are people who have israel derangement syndrome and they can't see any other context in
Starting point is 01:00:25 foreign policy. They can't see any other context in in Congress and in government. And it is not too dissimilar to the woke where they scream white privilege. There are too many white people in finance. There are too many white people in the military. There are too many white people in movies. There are too many white people in government. White people control this. White people did this. White people did that. And then you have now people on the left and the right who are like, Jews have too much control in the housing market. They're overrepresented in movies. They're overrepresented in politics. They're overrepresented. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Great, great, great. The privilege argument again. I'm not interested. It's so frustrating talking about this as a libertarian non-interventionist. I have the Ron Paul view on Israel versus Palestine, which is,
Starting point is 01:01:11 it's not our business. Agreed. Now I have personal views. I have lots of friends in Israel. So I've had some of them on my show and I've had liberty perspectives on both sides. But the thing that happens, and I'm surprised that libertarians fall into this trap, when we talk about Netanyahu or the Israelis or the Palestinians, people immediately go full collectivist, blaming the government of Israel for, or blaming all Jews for the government of Israel, or saying that every Palestinian baby that's getting killed right now had it coming because they voted for Hamas. Well, that's just dumb. This is about...
Starting point is 01:01:55 That baby didn't vote for anybody. They probably didn't, or they... The baby literally did not vote for anybody. Yeah. But you can't always lump this into some sort of collectivist ideology. It's war. Blame the individuals who are responsible for the actions that are causing the war. There's a war going on. I don't I don't care. I literally don't. People are like, you know, I see this video of someone screaming about Gaza. And I'm like, I don't care. I look human suffering is bad. War is bad. There's war going on. Everybody claims they're right.
Starting point is 01:02:26 We get, how about this? Can we have a protest for the Uyghur Muslims in China? Cause they're getting brutalized by, you know, by, by the Chinese government, like all the human trafficking victims who are brought across the Southern border. Oh yeah. Let's, let's do that. Hey, that one affects us. That's, that's what I care about in our backyard, like literally attached to our nation.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I don't understand why Americans are only motivated by things that are happening abroad. I think compassion is good. I think the loss of life is awful. But when do we turn inward and say, hey, we have a lot of problems internally and we should start prioritizing them before we start intervening on every side of this conflict, by the way. It's possible that there's a military industrial complex that propagandizes us and makes us care. It's possible. Yep. Matt will definitely agree with me on this. If we're actually going to be focused on serious problems and be America first, I said it last night and I'm going to say it again, we have to focus on unfunded liabilities, focus on Medicare and Medicaid,
Starting point is 01:03:23 focus on all that stuff because the dollar is going to be devalued like mad. If you think the inflation that we're seeing now is a big deal, it's going to make the inflation that we've had in the past couple of years look like child's play. And that also will destabilize the whole world if the u.s dollar collapses like the the problems that will arise from an un from an like an unmanaged de-dollarization of the whole world cannot be overstated so if you're worried about like you're worried about america you need to focus on getting in touch with your representatives and making sure they know that you want them to do something about
Starting point is 01:04:04 the unfunded liabilities and the national debt. The single threat, biggest threat to national security, to American way of life, fill in the blank, whatever it is you care about, you should care about that. Please, please go on more. Well, why do you think people don't take it seriously? It's an, it's an abstract idea, like the destruction of the currency. And like I was talking, Thomas Massey was on my show just the other night. And we're talking about there's a bill that would seize Russian assets to help fund the war in Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I forget what it's called. And he's like, you realize that Russia buys a lot of U.S. debt and China buys a lot of U.S. debt. And if the new precedent is foreign countries that buy U.S. debt, we can seize your stuff. That combined with the payments on the debt, that combined with massive monetization of all this money we're sending overseas, this is how empires die. And nobody seems to care because it's an abstraction, right? And I think Americans don't understand debt themselves. I mean, they struggle with mortgages, credit card debt, look at how we got to student loan debt. I think the concept of debt is very difficult for Americans to understand on the personal financial level.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I can't imagine it being applied to the federal financial level. What they do understand is that their dollars can't fill their grocery cart anymore. And it's the same problem, but it's personalized. And I think that's why Trump can win, because Joe Biden is just, the economy's awful on a very personal, tangible level. Yeah. Well, let's jump to the story. Let me say one more thing real quick people for everyone listening at home you need to when you hear politicians talking about mandatory spending that's what they're talking about so a lot of times they'll use phrases and
Starting point is 01:05:54 terms that people aren't familiar with when they're talking about the the the unfunded liabilities they're taught when they say mandatory spending that's the stuff they're talking about you have to be aware of these kind of these kind of uh these the terminology so you know what they're talking about that is the thing that will literally kill america you want to worry about you want to go and stuff your basement full of food this is what you're actually stuffing your basement full of food because of because this is the biggest threat to the u.s let Let's jump to this next story about Trump. From Mediaite, oh, this one was good. I apologize for this update.
Starting point is 01:06:30 CNN's Jake Tapper reports on Michael Cohen's, we'll say this in a second, Michael Cohen's tweets during the Trump gag order hearing, the gist of the news is that Michael Cohen has been going on TikTok and social media, disparaging Donald Trump to an extreme degree and his campaign to the point where now Donald Trump is being held.
Starting point is 01:06:48 He's having another contempt hearing for gag order violations. But even CNN is saying that Trump has credibility because Michael Cohen, and earmuffs for your children, ladies and gentlemen, Michael Cohen referred to Donald Trump as Von Schitzenpans. And Jake Tapper apologized before reading it.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Let me just play this quick segment for you guys. Yeah. Generally speaking, if Mr. Trump were not running for president of the United States, this would be pretty open and shut. Who cares? You just have to take it. Right. But there is an argument here that Donald Trump's running for president and his First
Starting point is 01:07:22 Amendment rights when it comes to responding to attacks need to be respected. Absolutely. And this is partly why they are hammering these Michael Cohen points so so aggressively, because the fact that these are probably of the four arguments, the strongest ones that the Trump team has. It's someone who is in some measure going back and forth with the former president. OK, I apologize for this update ahead of time. Oh, boy. But Blanche, Todd Blanche, the Trump attorney, is specifically reading a post that Michael Cohen made on Twitter on April 22nd in which he refers to Donald Trump as Von Schützenpanz. That is just a factual record that I am bringing before you.
Starting point is 01:08:02 This is in the court transcript. Von Schitt's in pants. Blanche also said there are repeated attacks on Trump and his candidacy on Cohen's podcast and TikTok account. Dana Bash, I know you want to weigh in on Von Schitt's. I think you did it on behalf of all of us. I have been calling it Von Poops in pants for weeks now, but now it's a part of the official transcript. I do think that when it comes to just the raw politics of this, the argument that Donald Trump is making out in the world, not just when he comes into court and when he leaves court, but when he's on social media, when he's at his rallies about, I'm gagged, I can't speak. When you look at this, which we should say,
Starting point is 01:08:45 he can speak about the judge. He can speak broadly about a lot of things. It's very narrow what the gag order is about. But it does include Michael Cohen because Michael Cohen will be a witness. And when Michael Cohen makes very clearly political statements against Donald Trump, it gives Donald Trump a much more credible political argument
Starting point is 01:09:06 saying this is ridiculous that I can't speak. Blanche just showed articles, quote, and Cohen, quote, talking extensively about Trump's presidential campaign. When CNN is forced to defend Donald Trump, it's not looking good for these Democrats in this court case. Yeah, it's interesting because they start off by being like, well, none of this would matter if he wasn't running for president. You're like, well, the whole reason he's on trial is because he's running for president. The audacity of this man. The judge in this case did say when he issued the fine the other day, I'm trying to remember the exact terminology, but effectively the gag order is not supposed to be a sword and shield for Trump's detractors, right?
Starting point is 01:09:45 Like, he acknowledged that this was being used as an opportunity, I think both by story analysts and definitely by Cohen, to throw punches at Trump when Trump is restricted on how he's allowed to publicly defend himself. And again, I find this to be a really interesting case, sort of in a nuanced way, because some of it is, you know, he's retweeting posts. So is that actually commenting on it? Other ones, he's, you know, or whatever the Trump's truth, he's trumpeting. He's re-quote trumpeting these things and alter them. That's lame. And so the context of which we're having to examine a gag order with the nuances of social media is fascinating.
Starting point is 01:10:22 But again, this is not a great look for anyone who is anti-Trump when you're like, this guy is actually making us all look like idiots. Shout out to Michael Cohen. I don't have anything. I have nothing to add. Like, it's all just garbage. Like, Michael Cohen talking smack about Donald Trump has been the same thing forever. The fact that there's a gag
Starting point is 01:10:46 order on trump is ridiculous this is all just a political hit job it's just the whole thing is just garbage i want to see should gag orders be be uh applied to retweets litigated all the way i think this is fascinating it's all it's all it's all election interference and the fact that we have to that we have to entertain this, and we have to entertain this process. Like, it is clearly, and I don't want the federal government to step in or anything like that, but it is really frustrating that there is no authority. You can be like, look, someone has to come in and be adults. Because it's clearly not, you know, clearly they're not behaving like adults.
Starting point is 01:11:28 They're not behaving like actually impartial, you know, impartial juries and stuff. It's just, it's frustrating. It all feels very Venezuela to me. I haven't followed this as closely as you guys have because I just dismiss it as that. This is just the politicization of the judicial process. But I have a theory, like some people believe that Trump lost the reelection because of mean tweets. So could this gag order actually guarantee a landslide? I don't think Trump lost because of mean tweets. I think it's because Republicans
Starting point is 01:12:01 were sitting around being like, gee, gosh, will occurs. I think we're going to win this year debate. And then the other Republican was like, if we keep telling the American people how good we are, then we're going to win the debate. And Democrats were sitting there going, can we just get people to put their names on a piece of paper? How many of those can we get? Republicans seem to think and they thought the whole time I was making the argument, too. We all thought that Trump making the argument to the public was going to win him an election. Wow, the economy is doing really well.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Gas prices are way down. Donald Trump's coming out here and he's talking about his plans. Makes a lot of sense. I said, his second term agenda looks great. I'm going to vote for him. And Democrats were going, oh, we don't even need a candidate. Biden can just sleep all day. He's in his basement. All we got to do is get a bunch of people to put their names on his paper, and then we have more paper than he has, and then we win.
Starting point is 01:12:48 And then they win, and Trump loses. So if they don't get on board with the real game, which elections are about, they're about getting as many pieces of paper as you can that someone can run through a machine. That's it. Nothing else matters. But can I give a shout out to this this other article cassandra posted this one uh send it to us trump denies sleeping during trial i simply close my beautiful blue eyes there is just no one like him it's so funny and i was definitely one of those people that was like well you know he's not classically presidential he's a little gruff, whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:13:26 But like these lines are hilarious. So I make a point to try and listen to like MSNBC and all the mainstream media every day because I'm trying to lower my IQ. No, I'm just kidding. Because I want to know what they're saying. And this idea that Trump is falling asleep in trial is like their big, like the big thing they're sticking to right now. Never mind the fact that they're also admitting the jury is falling asleep, especially when the banker was testifying the other day. Like, it's not fun to be in court and sitting and listening to boring stuff. But they are constantly like, they'll be like, and now joining us is this guy who's been in court all day.
Starting point is 01:13:59 And he'll be like, yes, yes. Well, I can only see the back of Trump's head. And he doesn't appear to be sleeping. But I've heard that he is sleeping. It's so ridiculous. And that tells you, you know, in between these comments on Trump, they're also admitting like the, the prosecutors were not able to get Cohen to, or anyone to officially confirm that Trump was the person directing the money. It always stops with Cohen. And then they're sort of like, and people thought maybe Trump. What was the latest quote? It was like someone testified that Trump was asked about the payment and he says, what
Starting point is 01:14:28 payment? Yeah, this is like regularly what happens. It's like, I don't know what you're talking about. They're able to build a case that it links to Cohen, but they are not, from everything I can see, they cannot definitively link Trump to any of this. And every time they'll be like, well, Pecker's the big deal. Well, actually, this next guy is the big deal. Actually, you know, the key witness is this person.
Starting point is 01:14:47 And every time someone comes to testify so far, no one has been able to do the thing the prosecution desperately needs to do, which is to link Trump to these payments. They can't. So meanwhile, they're like, so he's falling asleep. Well, I love this because like the way the media reports is like what you were saying. They'll be like, here we have John Smith, who was in the courtroom during the trial. What happened? He goes, well, I was sitting in the back and I could only see the back of Trump's head.
Starting point is 01:15:12 But after talking with someone who's familiar with how Trump thinks, it was obvious that Donald Trump during this trial was imagining strangling the bailiff. And then they go, oh, wow. Oh, Trump's so violent. I got a news alert the other day. I think it was Wall Street Journal that was like, he's cold. There's no Diet Coke. Trump is miserable in courtroom.
Starting point is 01:15:30 And you're like, I think he's actually been through court way more times than you're giving him credit for. Like, yeah, maybe he's saying it's cold there. Maybe it's just unpleasant and not fun. If you're grasping at straws like this, I'm sorry, your case is falling apart. I don't know why Trump like, OK, so Trump truthed. Contrary to the fake news media, I don't fall asleep during the crooked da's witch hunt especially not today i simply close my beautiful blue eyes sometimes listen intensely and take it all in
Starting point is 01:15:57 i also don't under like if it were me i'd be like oh yeah i was sleeping see i like it better who cares like i don't know why does it why does it matter i like it better that he's just seriously meditating on the things that everyone is trying to tell him didn't he say he was praying before the thing is also joe biden falls asleep at all kinds of stuff like people fall asleep when sitting i'm not that worried about it it is funny to me that trump is like my beautiful blue eyes because he knows the media is going to be like, he's such a narcissist. He called his eyes beautiful. I just, there's nobody like him.
Starting point is 01:16:33 No, there's not. His Bill Barr zinger is historic. Remember that one when he said, I called Bill Barr overweight, slow, lazy, and lethargic or something. And now thanks to his, I accept his wholehearted endorsement. um, overweight, slow, lazy, and lethargic or something. And, uh, now thanks to his, uh, I accept his wholehearted endorsement.
Starting point is 01:16:49 And for this, I will be removing lethargic from my statement. Have you played your rock opera version of that? That line. Oh, we never, we weren't, we,
Starting point is 01:17:00 we struggled to make one that was good enough. No, there was one that I thought was so funny. We were using a, sorry for context. Oh yeah. You're right for context oh yeah you're right yeah we never did i gave that one to seamus uh i think seamus is working on a cartoon called the corrupt criminal case of donald j trump using the rock opera we made about trump's truths yeah this one we gotta we gotta turn into a rock opera song i mean i think that think that also endears him. Like if he lost for mean tweets, which I don't think he did, I think he really wins with people by giving off these like nonplussed answers.
Starting point is 01:17:32 I was simply closing my beautiful blue eyes. Let's do this. Let's jump to a completely just off-cycle story. That's really interesting. And I had talked about it earlier in the day. A lot of people wanted to talk more about it. This is from the Daily Mail. How Baton Rouge school plagued by racial tensions and violence drove military veteran to spearhead successful campaign for wealthy white residents to form new city of St. George.
Starting point is 01:17:59 The first thing I'd like to do is insult the person who wrote that headline because it's overly verbose and doesn't really explain what the story is. The story is massive. Baton Rouge is effectively splitting into two cities over crime with the wealthier suburb, which is predominantly white, St. George, becoming its own city. And this was as of a couple of days ago. The interesting thing is that there are many people arguing that by having this wealthy suburb break off, which is predominantly white, 70%, it is going to harm and leave behind black families. I am shocked that they would argue that racist, make that racist argument. Black families in Baton Rouge don't need the white people to be there in order to succeed.
Starting point is 01:18:38 I don't know why they would make that argument. But of course, they're claiming it's racist now that the people who live in this community voted for their own city. So what say you, panel? Matt, how do you feel about this? It's not racist. It's rational. Is it based, in fact?
Starting point is 01:18:54 It's very based. And there's a movement. I don't know about Louisiana, but in Texas, there's a movement to create new free cities that split off from places like Austin. And it's simply about taxes. It's about regulations. It's about zoning. It's about schools. It's about all the things that normal people care about.
Starting point is 01:19:14 And my guess is that the Baton Rouge city government is slightly better than Portland, Oregon, but maybe not good enough if you're paying the taxes. So why wouldn't you vote with your feet? And why wouldn't you start a community that is actually going to care about basics? Like I want my trash picked up. I would love for my kids not to be transitioned in middle school. And I would love not to get shot. Yeah. Baton Rouge is where there was a big BLM riot. And the case is still going on where the police officer then sued the organizer for being like, you created a dangerous situation. There's a similar there was a similar effort in Atlanta to create, I think it's called Buckhead.
Starting point is 01:19:55 And as far as I know, it's sort of it's been voted on a couple of times. It's never gone through. But again, there was this criticism that it's like all the wealthy white residents want to split off. I think that's an oversimplification to scare people against the concept, right? If you're living in an area and you guys are doing pretty well, regardless of race, and you think, hey, this city is being mismanaged. I don't want to sell my house. My house is in the good part. Why don't we split off? That makes sense for me.
Starting point is 01:20:23 I think it's sort of arrogant of cities that are being poorly managed to say, well, like, you guys have to go down with our ship. You're not allowed to leave. Otherwise, we'll label you racist. It's not race. It's governance. It's failure of governance. It's a failure to do the basic things that you expect a city government to do. Yeah, I think so for sure. I mean, the thing is, you can't, if they are wealthy people, you can't make them stay, right? Like, even if this failed and they were like, well, you can't. Well, you know, all those people can be like, well, this sucks. We're leaving anyway.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Would you rather them move away or would you rather them split off and live next door? I think the state would rather they stay in the state. To the people of Baton Rouge, obviously it's going to matter. But to the people that, you know, that want to leave, it doesn't matter. You cannot, you cannot force people to stay and the more the state tries to the more it resembles you know what you get when the state tries to make people stay in an area and that has plenty of historical analogs on all kinds of, you know, different, different degrees from, from marginally annoying to, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:34 they're going to throw you into, into, you know, mass graves if you try to leave. So I wonder if we'll see more and more of this again. I think the scare you're right. It's happening in Texas. Like I said, the Atlanta one is the one I'm most familiar with, but if you can keep them there by labeling them, you know, racist, is that sort of becomes less, I,
Starting point is 01:21:52 why would you want to live with racists? Why would you want to live with racists? They don't even want to be here. Let them go. But like, as this, this, this logic falls apart,
Starting point is 01:22:01 do you think we'll see this more and more in cities that are sort of struggling? I'm sure this was happening in Baton Rouge, but as cities start to destroy their tax base, they start to expand their boundaries and encroach into suburbs that weren't part of their tax base. So part of it is just like, it's like economic warfare. Like you're not going to do that to us. We're going to separate from you completely. If they would get their house in order, they wouldn't have this problem. Yeah. You've got the state of Jefferson, greater Idaho.
Starting point is 01:22:37 You've got a county in Colorado trying to secede from the state. This is actually happening all over the country. And when there is no solution to the people who live there, they're demanding these things they don't get it, they move. And now we're seeing geographic hyperpolarization which is really bad. But you know what's going to happen now here in Baton Rouge, St. George?
Starting point is 01:22:53 People who can afford to will move into the wealthy, safe and secure area of St. George and the poor people will stay behind and Baton Rouge will start to fall apart. And 90% of this is, well no, the two issues, if I understand correctly, the two issues are the schools and also
Starting point is 01:23:08 the crime. So, like, and there's also, there's violence at schools. It really is like, if you have an unsafe area where there is no, where the law enforcement does not take care of the population,
Starting point is 01:23:24 the people with means leave that area. That's just the way it is. If you can get out of it, if it's dangerous, and it's the same as whether it's people that are leaving a town because they don't like the school or refugees from a war-torn country. This is what happens when people are unsafe and they can leave. They get the hell out of Dodge. is this is not some kind of shock and you're only going to see it the problem the actual solution is to get competent governance yeah you can't really hold order-minded people
Starting point is 01:23:59 hostage by saying you have to stay here where there's chaos they they're not going to do it they're going to follow their principles and their values and they want structural order and safety. I wonder if there's actually any kind of solution to the issue of self-segregation. Because what I see from this is, if you don't allow a city like St. George, as we're all mentioning, people move, right?
Starting point is 01:24:20 Yeah, well, these wealthy white people are going to go move into wealthy white neighborhoods. They're not going to decide to go move into like central Chicago. None of these wealthy families are going to be like, I know, you know, 45th and the red line sounds good. They're not going to do it. They're not going to want to go there. So all that's going to keep happening is more and more self-segregation. But the thing is, you know, I learned this growing up in Chicago.
Starting point is 01:24:41 All of the races self-segregate by choice. No one forced them to do it. In the early days, there was something called redlining, which is where the real estate companies would intentionally push black families towards redline housing. They're like, we want to make them all go there because it's a racist housing market. They're concerned about the property values if black families move into white areas or close to them. So they wanted to control it. That gets made illegal. Guess what happens? Nothing it. That gets made illegal. Guess what happens?
Starting point is 01:25:06 Nothing changes. The Hispanic people start moving near Hispanic people. The white people move near white people. And the black people move to live in black communities. Now you've got St. George. But if they were forced to leave, none of those people are going to move to a Mexican neighborhood or, you know, a Honduran neighborhood. None of them are going to move to a black neighborhood. I mean, very rarely.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Some may, but for the most part, they don't do it. People just segregate based on race. I don't know what the proposed leftist solution to that is when people choose to do it. Well, sometimes leftists propose segregating based on race. Like, I can't remember which school, but there was a college recently where the African-American student community was saying, well, we want our own dorm we don't we don't have to live somewhere else like so is that racist or are we cool with that one like what no that's what are we doing here the left likes it yeah there's a call for it it's okay but if you were to be like hey i'm not saying it's a race thing
Starting point is 01:25:57 but i don't want to live in a place where i'm scared to send my kids to school because they're going to get beat up and there's all kind of stuff then you're racist to be fair the left has no real morals and no real ideology the best example being lance from the serfs on this show arguing that if a man is attracted to a manly woman he's gay but then tweeting out that men being attracted to manly women is straight because it's literally flavor of the month for these people they have have no ideas behind anything they're saying. For people that are making the argument that you were referring to, it's just a vector of attack. So that's why Jordan Peterson would refer to it as postmodern because it doesn't actually matter to them.
Starting point is 01:26:40 It's just that this is an attack that will convince people watching, and it's a vector of attack that will work. And so they don't really believe it. Like Tim says, it's not like they have any belief in it. What they actually believe is that words have power, and that's the postmodern thing. So they use race as an effective tool. It's nothing more than an effective tool that's why it's conditional and it's different depending on who's using it and stuff like that because it's all that post-modern garbage it's also like this this is a microcosm of of our two different
Starting point is 01:27:17 philosophies if i'm grossly generalizing one is centralization of power and one size fits all. And we're going to run the city the way that the ruling party believes in. And I think our side believes in localism. Like if everybody in the Mexican-American community wants to self-gather in that community, I think that's great. Or maybe they want to mix it up. Like, how do we know what a robust culture looks like unless we let people be free enough to decide for themselves? What do they value most? Do they value being with people that look and sound like them? Or do they value diversity? Or do they just value a reasonable tax code that doesn't totally screw you?
Starting point is 01:28:01 Right. And I think we talk about this a lot, but I think one of the biggest challenges facing America right now is that we don't have a collective understanding of what our values are and what our culture is supposed to be. And so that's why I love regional culture in America. I think it's really interesting that in Louisiana, there's a big Cajun influence. It's just different language. And I would want to preserve those things. But overarching, do we understand what it means to be American as opposed to these regional enclaves? Or if you're living within an immigrant community that's settled in a specific area, would you be able to both have your ethnic culture as well as be able to say, but being American
Starting point is 01:28:40 means this. These are the values that we all agree we want to preserve. Well, we did have a system that allowed for individuality and local culture and a common sense of American identity. I think going back to centralization, intersectionality is a central plan, and it ranks everybody based on somebody's preferences. And it is so fundamentally un-American that it pushes us away from each other. It creates
Starting point is 01:29:07 all of these divisions and this distrust amongst different types of Americans. And I think that's what's tearing us apart. Yeah. I think intersectionality, I mean, this was the big buzzword I remember when I was going through college, like, how great is intersectionality? And as you're describing it, I'm like, this sounds awful. This sounds terrible. But it is, again, this idea that, you know, we could have a moral and cultural understanding of what order should look like. But there's the opposite side, which says, no, we want to be able to change, to continuously rotate the deck as we see fit. And we don't want you to be able to complain about it without being labeled with an ism,
Starting point is 01:29:40 so to speak. Yes. Thank you so much for agreeing with me affirmation for henna claire thank you i need that because i'm female and also i'm a middle child so it's really important to my ego middle child will do that yeah are you a middle child no do you think birth order does make a difference in personality i'm sorry this is off topic but i don't know about in personality um but in the way that you're you're raised if i was the first child there would be it would have been no second child is there a bill levante no i have
Starting point is 01:30:11 a sister it's catherine and she's two just about two years older than me and she better if her name was jill yes maybe you have weird parents uh yeah i mean i have story that I'll tell you off the air about weird names. But anyways. Yeah, I don't know. I expect more of this to happen. Leftist ideology and democratic policy is destroying cities. Portland's an example of it. I wouldn't be surprised if a suburb of Portland or something, they start passing laws because they're concerned about what's going on.
Starting point is 01:30:45 I think we're already seeing people fleeing. And it's all racist. If you leave, it's racist. If you make your own city and your own laws, it's racist. It's just you're a racist. You know, you're right. Like, it is only going to continue. And a big part of the reason is because of the narrative that people are fed.
Starting point is 01:31:01 And I was harping on this the other day. But the reason that we had all the mess of the Summer of Love and the George Floyd riots was because of the lie fed to the American people for the better part of a decade that the police were killing thousands of black men, innocent black men, innocent unarmed black men. The idea was that the police are killing thousands of innocent unarmed black men every year in America. And that's what people bought and because of that lie we had like thousands of lives destroyed you know tons of like just tons of chaos for a whole summer and with this like you have this lie that rich people don't pay their fair share and they don't pay any taxes and they all get out of it and blah blah blah blah and the reason your life is bad is because the rich people and the reason that you don't have this is because the rich people that don't pay their fair share when the truth is rich people pay all the taxes the bottom half of
Starting point is 01:31:54 the 50 50 percent of the country don't pay any taxes and the people that are like that are freaking out about like that are protesting the the protesting capitalism and stuff they're not paying any tax at all and they never have you know it's and these kinds of narratives that are not true but permeate through society have real world effects on the way that people behave and when you have there's people that talk about like the the inequality that we have and you don't have a problem with with absolute with with poverty per se but you have you have a problem with with perceived inequality right like if your whole society's poor like poor doesn't matter but when you've got really rich people and then some poor people it sucks but the whole society overall is really generally
Starting point is 01:32:42 wealthy and like we don't have people falling out of society and these the the narrative that we have this terrible society that where where people are constantly falling through cracks and and kills people and blah blah that's that is not true and it's a lie that's permeated a lot of gen z and young people and that's part of the reason why you have these protests is because they generally believe the u.s and our society is bad and it's just not we're gonna go to Super Chats. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com.
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Starting point is 01:33:33 He's taken over from Clint. Clint is gone. Well, he's now the first super chatter. Oh, here's a good one. The second super chat is TimIsControlledOpposition saying, if Biden turns on Israel, he's got my vote. What a perfect example of what I describe as Israel derangement syndrome. Let me elaborate. An individual who calls me controlled opposition, who is willing to vote for Joe Biden so long as he turns on Israel, a man who is enforcing DEI policies at the federal level,
Starting point is 01:34:06 a man who just invoked new Title IX rules that eliminate protections for women and allow males to compete against females, among other things, providing protections for women who make claims and accusations against men, a guy whose brother gained a bunch of lucrative contracts seemingly in line with the position he had as the vice president, a man whose son was an executive on the board who did drugs and who was cutting out 10 percent for the big guy. You'd be willing to support one of the most corrupt individuals in U.S. history who is pushing communist garbage in this country so long as he says Israel bad.
Starting point is 01:34:42 That, my friends, is israel derangement syndrome shall we read on ceo of fat girl says howdy people clint said uh clint clint uh howdy people clint she won't stop texting me man get her under control i am the milk man my milk is delicious okay well i have no idea what that's about but have you guys been seeing the stuff about um avian flu being found in all kinds of milk across the country? Oh, here we go. It's going to be like October. The October surprise is going to be Airborne Ebola or something.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Yeah, everyone gets to stay home. Also, I feel like it's conservatives who drink milk, you know? Like, only lefties drink non-milk. Yeah, but conservatives drink, like, milk from a cow. That's what it's being found in. No, I mean, like, people are going to stores and buying... Oh, yeah, like, local milk, as opposed that's what it's being found in like they're like no i mean like people are going to stores oh yeah like local milk as opposed to like the grocery chain no but everybody drinks milk because milk's in everything it's just it's not even it's not even about buying a thing of whole milk it's that your baked goods your other
Starting point is 01:35:39 derivative drinks your milkshakes your ice cream liberals like ice cream too conservatives like ice cream everybody eats ice cream there's a like ice cream, too. Conservatives like ice cream. Everybody eats ice cream. There's a bunch of food recalls right now. This is occasionally something I follow for Scanner just because it's fascinating to me because we all know the food that we eat is bad, but also can be so easily messed up for non-nefarious reasons. Just like, man, it's a delicate shade. All right.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Kale says, love to hear Casper will have canned cold brew in the future. I've been making cold brew with Appalachian Knights at Chronic Golf Plus Games on Hilton Head. It's the best thing about opening shifts. Yeah, it was one of the first things we looked into was doing cans of cold brew. But unless we order massive amounts, which is beyond our warehouse capacity and shipping capacity, we're not able to do it. So the challenge is you need to produce a certain
Starting point is 01:36:25 amount of cans to get the cost low enough, but you need a certain amount of distribution to be able to produce enough because they don't, I think cold brew lasts for one year and you don't want to have them sitting around in a warehouse. Then you've got a liquid shipping. So it's actually fairly challenging. With our coffee, we roast in small batches. So when you buy a bag of cast brew, you're getting something that was freshly roasted recently in a small batch. And we have a bunch of empty bags. And then when people order, we cycle through like roasting a batch and then sending them out and then roasting a batch. Making cold brew requires making the cans, canning them, printing and everything.
Starting point is 01:37:04 If we only do small batch cans, they're like five bucks a piece. We have to sell each can for like $5. And like selling like a $30 six pack of, that's pretty brutal. But I mean, if you look at Starbucks cold brew, it is expensive to do canned cold brew, even when you're at mass scale, you know?
Starting point is 01:37:19 When you, you have to clarify this for me. Some companies sell like the setup to do your own cold brew at home. Like just the, what I think of as a teabag is there would, that would be easier to do than the canned. Is there a reason? The idea is like,
Starting point is 01:37:33 we want to get to the point where you walk into a gas station and you get, you grab a can of cast brew from the shelf, scan the UPC and then crack it open and drink it. Yeah. Cool. Appalachian nights, cold brew canned at the store. That would be a dream come true.
Starting point is 01:37:45 I'd be great. I'd have a whole bunch. Buy some, go to the skate park. And then it gets real tough when you want to do the kind that has cream already in it. Now you're getting complicated. Perishables and dairy and oh boy. Particularly if it has Ebola. Yeah. Avian flu or something.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Do you pay extra for the avian flavoring? Yeah, because you have to make sure that it gets to that this thing's still active let's go travis delaney says as an og kibbe fan i demand he bring back his infamous sideburns tim pull up a picture to remind everyone of what they're missing is there if i search for matt kibbe sideburns okay i have a sideburn issue um so when i was uh running freedom works and I was on TV all the time representing the Tea Party, I had these sideburns because I just shaved off all the gray and all that was left was these awesome sideburns. And then Keith Olbermann. Is that you?
Starting point is 01:38:37 Yeah, that's me. What a look, man. And then Keith Olbermann attacked them. What a dick. And I said, well, shit, I got to keep these forever now. As a defiance move. Yeah. Did you have the sleeve of tattoos on this photo, too?
Starting point is 01:38:53 Or like, how has your aesthetic evolved? I had some. I continue to add to the collection. That's so funny. All right. Token Black Eye says, Tim, regarding your earlier segment on Baton Rouge and the new city of St. George, I've lived in Baton Rouge most of my life. And unfortunately, the crime has become out of hand, much like Portland or San Francisco, like many of these cities.
Starting point is 01:39:11 So don't be surprised if more stuff like this happens. Crime drives poverty. What if you don't? We were always saying, like, move out of cities. But what if it's not move out of cities? It's just move to the best neighborhood and separate. Just hire just get better police. Like if you have a good police force that actually takes care of like well i mean not only it takes more than just police because you have to have a da that'll put people in jail and a government that's like accurately i mean this is what i said about portland right they they cannot recruit police they have a budget they're they're failing i i gotta push back i think you need good neighbors is what you need you need neighbors that share the values of don't hurt
Starting point is 01:39:46 people, don't take their stuff. Because police cannot substitute for a bunch of neighbors that want to hurt you and take your stuff. I agree with that. I do agree with that. Ryan Ain't Lion says, huge shout out to my amazing wife, Caitlin, for giving us the best 15th anniversary gift of our second
Starting point is 01:40:01 son. Hey, congratulations. Little Tucker Finley. I guess we are even more far right now. Hey, congratulations. Little Tucker Finley. I guess we are even more far right now. Well, congratulations on moving further right by having children. You named your kid Tucker Finn? That's super far right. All right, Jason Dixon says.
Starting point is 01:40:17 I love when people call and chat in and tell us that they have kids. It's so exciting. Jason Dixon says, Tim, can I get a shout out for all these cops you all of a sudden like and are okay with them being gay and doing crimes? Shout out to the discord, too. I think, Jason, I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying. I'm implying that shutting
Starting point is 01:40:37 down the protest is wrong, but I don't actually care because the people are begging for it. I am not actually praising the police for going in and shutting down the protests. It is sort of for the for I'll put it this way. When there was a video of a Jewish student being denied entry and the cops would not help him. I am upset the police were not doing anything about it. When the police were called upon and witnessed these people attacking Jewish students, this is what precipitated the violence at UCLA. The police did nothing. When the clashes started, the police came in and broke up the clash and then did nothing.
Starting point is 01:41:16 And then finally, the police were called in to get rid of these protest camps. I am saying that sometimes the police are good. Some departments are good. Big city departments typically are bad because they're run for political interests by politically appointed individuals and shared departments are typically better because they're elected. But in this instance, my statement about the police is not necessarily a positive one. I wouldn't certainly call it a negative one. I am saying the far left wants to live by the sword and now they shall. So when the police come in
Starting point is 01:41:45 and give them the governance they asked for, I will laugh about it. But I would defend someone's right to free speech were they not violent communists who physically attack people. If Nick Fuentes showed up at one of these campuses with a megaphone, took no land, claimed no territory, and just stood there bullhorning, I'd say he's allowed to do it. I mean, if you want to make an argument about the audible nature of a megaphone and he's got to set it to a certain volume, so be it. I don't care if you're a communist, a Muslim, an anti-Semite or whatever, you have a right
Starting point is 01:42:17 to free speech, but only, in my opinion, if you agree with the right for other people to have free speech back. Meaning if you, like exactly what Elon Musk said, Fuentes is allowed on X and he should be, and other people can comment on his posts and they can argue with him online and they can community note him when he's wrong. And that's what we need.
Starting point is 01:42:35 But these violent communists in these universities bar people entry and physically attack them. Funny video I saw. I think it was Crowder that reposted it. It's a guy who made a channel called Totally Tourist. Have you guys seen the video? He's wearing a Hawaiian shirt and like, I don't know what the hat's called, but it's like, you know, it's like a round hat. And he's walking around asking people in New York, what's the best place to eat in New York? He's a channel,
Starting point is 01:42:58 a travel vlogger called Totally Tourist. He's a tourist here and he wants to find the best food. And he goes to the protest and he's like, hey, I'm wondering if you can give me some advice on a good place to eat. And they go, no press. He's like, I'm not press. I'm a travel vlogger. I'm just trying to find good food. And they're like, press is over there. And then one guy walks up and goes, what do you think about Palestine? And he's like, I don't know anything about it. I think what you guys are doing is great. And then the guy starts getting in his face and he's like, I don't know. He's like, hey man, back off. Don't touch my stuff. He's like, I don't know. I think you're doing
Starting point is 01:43:27 good. Whatever, man. And the guy insults him and walks off. And I'm like, you see, you see, this is it. A guy's walking around a Hawaiian shirt saying, where can I get some food? And they say, get out. No press. These people don't believe in free speech. I'm not going to defend their free speech. But Jason, shout out to the discord. If you guys aren't members at Timcast.com, you're missing out because there are pre shows.ows, there's morning shows, there's after shows. It's people hanging out, networking, and winning a culture war. Let's go. Lee Whitaker says, hey Tim, VIP on Discord here. I was fired from my 150K per year web dev job last week for not being woke. Can you recommend a good lawyer? Oh,
Starting point is 01:44:06 oh man. I mean, America first legal. I don't know the extent to which they take cases like this. I honestly don't know. Um, man, it's tough.
Starting point is 01:44:17 Sorry to hear it though, man. That sucks, man. That's crazy. You should go in the discord and explain. Yeah. I want to hear the rest of the story. Maybe you should call in and tell the story.
Starting point is 01:44:24 We'll see if we can set something up and have you talk about what happened. All right. Angry Marsupial says, we lost our 10-year-old pup, Seven, suddenly today. He was the seventh of our clan, joining us a year after blending families. He was the glue we all had in common and my IRL watching buddy. This is a very lonely tribute to my boy tonight sorry to hear it that's a cute name like if you're if your puppy is like the seventh person there was a sign not too far from here it said mini uh golden uh doodle puppies and the mini word just makes it
Starting point is 01:45:01 a no yeah you want a big dog well it's not that I want a dog. You know what I mean? Like just like a regular one. These miniature ones, the way I was thinking about it, I'm like, I don't want a dog that I have to protect.
Starting point is 01:45:15 I want a dog that'll protect me. You know, you get like a full-size golden doodle. You get a full-size, like poodles, like full poodles are actually hunting dogs. They're super smart.
Starting point is 01:45:23 They're based. And they will defend you. But, like, a little miniature, a bird of prey is going to snatch them up. Yeah, I was going to say, especially if you have land, it's not, you know, you'd have to always be with the dog when it's outside. That's a legitimate concern, actually. Yeah, there's going to be, like, a security camera footage of a bird just swimming down and snatching them and flying away.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Have you seen those jackets they make for, like, chihuahuas with, like, spikes sticking out of them to, like, deter birds from picking them up jeez if a bird can eat your pred it's your pet you have a rodent that being said there was a turtle walking around on the driveway earlier today and uh chris found him and he's like what do we do and he's like holding this turtle that was probably like 15 years old because it was like decently big and i was like bring him bring him to the pond i guess and he's like i don't know where he like what if he was going somewhere important you know like he was late for a meeting well maybe he's got like he or she has family or something you know what i mean and then it's like he walks all the way over here to go back to where his eggs are and we pick him up and then bring him
Starting point is 01:46:16 all the way back imagine how brutal that would be this is something i've heard about uh if you find like a bunch of kittens in the wild like you're walking in the woods there's a chance that the mom has left them hidden them so she can go hunt or whatever and she's going to come back so if you move them the mom is now unable to find her kittens and then oh man it's it's you know they have to be with their mom to nurse and learn how to be a cat this is one of the funniest ones too deer do this when people will often come across like a a baby deer and they'll go oh no it's been abandoned and then they'll take it and like do something with it and it was like the mom comes back like my child is gone because the the parent was like, the mom comes back, like, my child is gone.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Because the parent will, like, leave the child to go find food or something. And somewhere where the child, like, the baby deer is safe. Right. The people are, like, well-intentioned, but actually kidnapping things that are okay. You ever see the video of the guy throwing the tortoise into the lake? Oh, he killed that thing. Yep. Yes.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Turtles and tortoises very different central planners bastards that's that's really a great example of it right the guy throwing a tortoise into a lake is basically these communists yeah being like trust me to run your government i love that meme where it's like a picture of a big fat guy who's like i've never had a real job i live with my parents i've not actually read any news and I don't know anything about modern philosophies or industry. And I have all kinds of mental illness
Starting point is 01:47:30 and I'm on all these drugs. Yes, that too. And now here's how I would fix the government. Yeah, I feel like you're describing a US Senator right now. Probably. From Pennsylvania, maybe. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Let's grab some more super chats. Cody Justin Fennin says, what I can't get past is that Trump didn't do anything in 2020 with the riots raging. I still plan to vote for him, but it is, uh, it's in absence of a better candidate. I wonder if he'll do anything when he wins. I, I agree. You know, I think, uh, Trump had, has issues on foreign policy, but he did well, in my opinion. Uh, Trump had hiring issues and did, uh, things poorly in a lot of ways. But like, what are you going to do? You know, vote for Joe Biden. Now, I still think and look, this may be
Starting point is 01:48:11 sad to say, but Trump is the greatest president of my lifetime. That's it. I've lived through technically H.W. Bush, Clinton, W. Bush, Obama and now Trump. And all of them gave us war, conflict, and crisis. And then Trump was slightly reversing that. So what can I say? He's better than the rest. Certainly far from perfect, but I don't know what you're going to get with your president. I just could never vote for Joe Biden. That's a non-starter for me.
Starting point is 01:48:43 What if he came out against israel would you would you then sacrifice literally all of the important things for this country and let communists take over the united states that's just so insane it's wild the thing is joe biden is just not good he's just actually bad i you know you can debate all the other stuff like that like i want a president that doesn't trip up the stairs if we're gonna go into international conflict I want someone who seems I don't know not fragile let's see the text vet says CS gas with the military uses if you've seen the videos of the gas chamber from basic training that's what it is CS gas is far worse than tear gas well what I can tell you is that in Ferguson the canister said CS smoke on them so maybe smoke is a specific term different from gas where it's got a lower concentration.
Starting point is 01:49:29 What I can tell you is in Brazil, they do not F around. I have been tear gassed quite a bit in the United States. I was tear gassed in Turkey. And let me tell you, tear gas in the United States is barely tear gas. It's an irritant. It's in the air. You don't like it. It hurts your eyes. Yeah, yeah, whatever. In Turkey, I'm impressed. This stuff is pretty intense, but it's okay. You can manage through it. Brazil, Brazil was legit. Okay, so
Starting point is 01:49:59 if I get, I get tear gassed in the United States, typically New York does not use tear gas. And my understanding is the way their sewer system is designed, they try to avoid using it almost entirely because it gets retained or something. It would be bad for everybody else. So they don't use it. There are certain cities that I've been to in the US, Ferguson, for instance, had what was referred to as CS smoke. And it's an irritant.
Starting point is 01:50:20 And you're like, oh, man, that's bad. And that's about it. Your eyes will water a little bit. In Turkey, it was pretty intense. And I was man, that's bad. And that's about it. Your eyes will water a little bit. In Turkey, it was pretty intense and I was like hard to see and I'm like coughing. I'm like, man, Brazil was such legit. It must have been like military grade or something. You had no choice. When you got hit by this, just snot poured out your nose uncontrollably and your eyes
Starting point is 01:50:43 were swollen red with tears pouring down your face and there's nothing you do about it there was no manning it up and bearing it you're just like wow i cannot stop the snot pouring out of my face so i took my sock and jammed it in my mouth so i could breathe and then someone was like why didn't you use your hat and i was like my hat was covered in tear gas yeah that was like a good question though but like the only part of like that i had that was small enough to actually try but like the only part of like that i had that was small enough to actually try and use as some kind of filter was the sock in my in my shoe and uh it helped that was fun by the way you know what i mean it's like it's exhilarating but uh i
Starting point is 01:51:17 certainly don't recommend people go in situations where you have to endure stuff like that i mean it sounds fun i mean it's fun if you like Luke and I were doing this, uh, this interview with this guy who like worked with the Mexican government, special police forces. And, uh, his like past career was like anti cartel,
Starting point is 01:51:35 super intense, but now he's like a special effects guys. Like send me retired. And so when we were like, let's talk, he kind of went over the top and he cracked a tear gas thing and threw it at us. And then we're in a small room with tear gas pouring out. We never used the footage, but we were like, like talk he kind of went over the top and he cracked a tear gas thing and threw it at us and then we're in a small room with tear gas pouring out we never used the footage we were
Starting point is 01:51:47 like oh like he was like the idea was like how long who could sit there the longest and bolt we just both got up we were like whoa dude tear gassing us in a garage this footage exists i don't think it exists anymore this is 10 years ago that's but yeah luke and i sat in chairs and he cracked it up and threw it i didn't think he was going to do it and then he was like here look and I was like wait what and then we both
Starting point is 01:52:08 got tear gassed and it was funny I think Luke got tased too I think he zapped maybe I'm wrong I don't know Luke probably remembers better than I do
Starting point is 01:52:15 that explains something yeah that guy was cool though boys are wild he was like a consultant for movies and special effects because he had worked
Starting point is 01:52:24 with like police forces and it's a much safer job getting away from all that stuff because he had worked with police forces and it's a much safer job getting away from all that stuff, but he had to wear a mask. He had a cool mask. It was like a devil mask. He's like, I don't want the people that I've locked up to know who I am. It's like if we're going to film something. I was like, okay. That was cool. I was in Miami.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Let's go. The mayor of Serious Town says, Tim, I know how badly you want to sell more coffee than Appalachian Nights. A strong product pipeline is important so I doubled my Appalachian Nights subscription and do so every month until there's a Houston location.
Starting point is 01:52:55 Let's see. If you were doing one, now you're doing two. Next month you'll do four. In three months you'll have eight. In four months you'll have 16. In five months you'll have 32. Let's see. In six, you'll have eight. In four months, you'll have 16. In five months, you'll have 32. So let's see. In six months, you'll have 64. I think you're just going to be our best customer.
Starting point is 01:53:13 I was going to say, I think you just are the Houston location then. I think you are the outpost. Yeah, just give us the address. We'll send people to go buy Appalachian Nights because I don't think you can drink all that coffee. All right. I'm a coffee snob, so I'm making an order right now,'ll i'll send notes so it is uh that'd be so fun appalachian nights so when we first launched rise with roberto jr it's a light roast breakfast blend and we put the roaster on it because we were like this is it people you know we were talking to people and they're like oh they like like light roast is is kind of the thing everybody drinks dark roast roast is getting popular, but light roast.
Starting point is 01:53:46 And then we tried it and we basically blended different things together for all these different blends that we were making. And we were like, okay, this one's good. We'll launch this one with our rooster as our mascot as like our official go-to. When we first launched, that one was the one we were like, get Rise of the Birdo Jr. It's got the rooster on it. And then we have our dark roast too, which is Appalachian Nights. And then it flipped without even like all of a sudden we noticed our sales were like triple double quadruple
Starting point is 01:54:10 people just keep reordering up choosing appalachian nights over everything else and i was like oh we got a good one so uh it's cool it's like we we we got one we got one that was good you know so start there yeah okay holly Hollywood Catios says, I race a 60 mile an hour riding lawnmower. What? No money needed, but would love to wrap my new 100 mile an hour riding mower with your graphic to spread the word
Starting point is 01:54:36 to the fair crowds we race in front of. How do I get official approval? SoCalMowerRacing.net. Okay, I'm immediately Googling that. there's a really simple answer we used to just say like dm ian or whatever but he's not here um i would say if you're a member in the discord send a message to one of the staff in the discord i would love to put a tim cast rap on your riding mower that sounds awesome i cannot even believe this is a real thing i love america this is great you ever see the log pulling things they do like the tractor pulls or whatever yeah well i grew up like yeah in in rural connecticut and
Starting point is 01:55:08 they had like they'll do the logs or they'll have like oxen pull stuff if someone wraps their like oxen that's pulling at their county fair in a tim cast thing i would die it'd be so funny it's gonna be wild uh once we get so while we're building the the cast brew shop in Martinsburg, the work behind the scenes for more locations around the country is currently underway. So that's still in full swing. And that's basically all of the like whenever you buy cast brew, we're not we're not pulling profits or pulling any money out of that. I don't take a salary from the company or anything. I think we only have one employee and the funding is going towards setting up the location and setting up the other locations. It is going to be absolutely based when we're able to go like, hey, there's a franchise location in, you know, Dubuque, Iowa. And we've got space there to do the show and we're going to go do the show there. And we're going to be able to like just pop around and do this tour or something to the effect of a mini tour.
Starting point is 01:56:05 So that's really cool. Someone super chatted saying they want to open one in Houston. I'm like, imagine if we open this and then we're able to go and actually do the show live from that location. It'd be absolutely amazing. Super cool stuff. Coming in the future. Coming in the future. Polly Puree says, Ian, crying emoji, crying emoji, crying emoji, crying emoji.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Ian will be back, I think, next week. He got lost. We wanted to test his perspicacity, so we didn't give him the address. And he's out there somewhere. Probably in the woods. But he'll figure it out. We believe in him. All right, where are we at?
Starting point is 01:56:43 Kenneth Hart says, I'm a commercial driver in PDX and spent three hours in traffic. Trust me, there are plenty of cars. The rich guys in the West, West Hills bought all downtown. Boom, drugs criminalization. The city is a blight and it has to be hard rebooted.
Starting point is 01:56:57 Well, good luck, sir. Hard reboot sounds very terrifying, even if it is necessary. Have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in? I love that meme. You ever see the meme where it's V from V for Vendetta wearing the headset? And it's like, your government is doing
Starting point is 01:57:12 what? Have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in? Yep. I wish it would work. Yeah. I gotta be honest, though. I would not plug it back in. I just... We'll figure it out thanks have a nice day
Starting point is 01:57:26 you know sometimes you get a computer that's just not working you just don't you just unplug it and you're like you go get a new one you know
Starting point is 01:57:33 get a new one we just leave we cordon off Portland let it be there for like 50 years come back later when it's overgrown or build a wall around it
Starting point is 01:57:42 well you know those pictures of old houses in Detroit where you'll walk in and there's actually a tree growing through it? It's sort of being rebooted in a sense. I love this meme. Let me see if I can find it. Yeah, this one
Starting point is 01:57:56 was... This is a classic one. Here, look at this. Fake tweet. Donald J. Trump. I'm building a wall around New Mexico too. I don't eat any New Mexicans. I'm still trying to get rid of the old ones. I wonder who made that up. That was a good one.
Starting point is 01:58:13 New Mexicans. Yep. That was a funny one. We'll grab some more super chats. We can get a couple more in here. What do we have? Jazzonaut says 20-year-olds have parents born in the 70s. That's Gen X.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Correct. And 20-year-olds are Gen Z. Millennials are nearing 40 years old. So millennials, and so it comes and goes in waves. There are the bulk of boomers, and the majority of the children of boomers are millennials, but there are boomers who have Gen Z kids, and there are Gen Xers who have millennial kids as well. Typically, however, Gen Xers have Gen Z kids, and boomers have millennial kids. So I think boomers are fantastic, actually.
Starting point is 01:58:58 I think poor old Gen X, they're kind of a lost generation, but not in a bad way. Just that they did some good stuff. It's whatever. Phil's Gen X. He's got some good stuff going on. But for the most part, people are just like, you didn't really rock the boat all that much. You did some good stuff. I think Smashing Pumpkins are Gen X.
Starting point is 01:59:16 We like them. I don't know. Are there like, yeah, Gen X did some pretty good stuff. All the grunge music was all Gen X stuff. Yeah, Creed. were they Gen X? Yeah. Boomers gave us Star Trek The Next Generation, and for that they shall be given a golden trophy for all of time
Starting point is 01:59:32 and be heralded as the greatest generation in the history of mankind. But there are many boomers who are bad, and they get to be called out. But you've redeemed yourselves because no matter who you are or where you are, you're a boomer. Just know it was a boomer who made Star Trek The Next Generation. Good for you. It was a bunch of them, actually. And that is the best show ever made, period.
Starting point is 01:59:52 It's inspiring. Yeah. All right, here we go. Triton 54. He got the reference. Bad religion. I don't know how to live, but I got a lot of toys. My daddy's a lazy middle class intellectual.
Starting point is 02:00:02 My mommy's on Valium, so ineffectual. Ain't life a mystery? 21st century digital boy. That's it. Yep. That says it. They nailed it. That was a long time ago, right?
Starting point is 02:00:14 When did they write that? Like 2000 or something? Yeah. 21st century digital boy. If it wasn't the 90s, it was the early 2000s. My daddy's a lazy middle class intellectual mommy's on valium so ineffectual yep shannon says tim gen z men are conservative but gen z women are queer and more likely to be trans this is true but uh as i've mentioned before men don't have the same pressures
Starting point is 02:00:39 as women there's apparently like hallie berry has a video where she's screaming i'm going through menopause did you see that yeah because she was on Congress at the Hill today lobbying for more menopause research. Yeah, like men don't have this. And so conservative guys, these Gen Z guys are going to be in their 30s and they're going to be, you know, dating or whatever. And they're going to sit, they're going to meet a woman and she's going to be like, well, you know, I'm progressive. He's go, okay, have a nice day.
Starting point is 02:01:03 He's going to get up and she's gonna be like, no, wait, why? It's like, I'm you know, I'm progressive. And he's going to go, okay, have a nice day. He's going to get up. And she's going to be like, no, wait, why? And he's going to be like, I'm not dating a progressive leftist. The guy has no, it's not going to have any pressure to have a family. Whereas these women who are in their 30s are literally being told by their doctors, like, well, if you want to have a family, you better do it now. No, I think doctors like them too. Doctors and celebrities are like, well, we'll see. If you spend money with me freezing your eggs, we can pretend this isn't real.
Starting point is 02:01:24 Yeah, but that's also the point. The doctor is going to say, well, if you want to have a kid naturally, you better do it now. We can freeze your eggs. And I just think even if it's 1%, 2%, 3% of women, many of them are going to be shifting their political views because they're going to realize that it's rough for them. And I would love to see data on uh political engagement based on gender like i this is you know i know we know that young people tend to look at politics as
Starting point is 02:01:52 a social cause and so there's a certain level of like they're doing it to uh be viewed as valuable by their peers but i almost wonder if women are more likely to be less politically engaged than men we know that viewership for political shows skews towards men. And so like of the like woke feminist, you know, queer, whatever women that Gen Z has, like how many of them are actually dedicated to the cause and how much are like, yeah, I guess. And are actually much more almost independent in a way. All right.
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