Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1020 TikTok SUES Biden Over BAN, Israel INVADES Rafah DEFYING Biden Admin w/Jay Dyer

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil, & Serge are joined by Jay Dyer to discuss TikTok planning to sue the Biden administration over the looming TikTok ban, Stormy Daniels nearly derailing Trump trial with inappropriate & degenerate testimony, Trump's secret service agents meeting about the potential of Trump being jailed, and a Democrat governor apologizing after saying Black kids don't know what a computer is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TikTok is suing the Biden administration over the bill to ban TikTok in this country, saying they'd rather shut it down than sell it, which some people suggest or say suggests that they're more interested in TikTok as a weapon than they are actual platform that can make them money. But it's also the counterargument, TikTok being forced to sell means they're not going to be able to get a real true value for the product. So there's that. Then there's Israel invading Rafah, despite the fact the Biden administration said, don't do it. Israel said they didn't care. They did it anyway. Biden, of course, withholding

military aid to Israel potentially over this. And he did that anyway, but nothing seeming to stop Israel. And then we have the stormy Daniels testimony in Trump's hush money trial, where apparently she got, she offended the court. She was making a joke out of the trial, some have suggested, talking about disgusting and lurid things, to the point where Trump's team actually called for a mistrial. They filed for a mistrial. The judge said no. And then, of course, in the Trump documents case, the judge has indefinitely suspended that trial. Now, of course, the left is screaming, saying that, you know, there's corruption here, of course.

And then big news. AstraZeneca has pulled their COVID vaccine entirely from the European market. They never brought it here in the U.S., but shortly after a story broke that they admitted in a lawsuit there were rare side effects, they're now pulling it entirely, citing market reasons. So we'll talk about those things. Before we do, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and buy coffee. Cast Brew Coffee is our coffee company.

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Who are you? What do you do? I host the fourth hour of The Alex Jones Show every Friday. I've done that for the last three years. I'm an author of four books. I do a lot of debates on all kinds of topics, religion, geopolitics. We did a TV show a couple years ago called Hollywood Decoded. And I also do live events, so that's what I do. Right on. Thanks for hanging out. We've got Phil hanging out. Hello. What's up? My name is Phil Labonte.

I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that remains i'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary what's going on hannah clare hey i'm hannah clare brummel i'm a writer for scnr.com that's scanner news i'm so happy to be here tonight hi serge hello i am serge.com let's get started here's the big news from the daily mail tiktok is suing the biden administration over the law forcing a ban or sale from ByteDance. They say the platform's parent company, ByteDance, has accused Biden's administration of violating First Amendment rights by allegedly trying to silence the 170 million Americans who use the social media application.

The bill was overwhelmingly passed by Congress and signed by Biden on April 24th, giving ByteDance until January 19th to sell TikTok or face a ban. It was driven by concerns that China could use the app to access American users' data. And now we'll pause and interject. Everybody knows no one cares about them stealing data. And the real issue is that this is the one platform the deep state can't control. And on the platform, massive anti-Israel and pro-Palestine content started to emerge. And then shortly following that, Democrats jumped in line with Republicans to ban this. And then they did. Now, I'll clarify. The bill doesn't literally ban the service. It prohibits U.S. companies from contracting with any company that has some kind of business tie with North Korea, China, Russia,

or Iran. In this instance, of course, TikTok is connected with China, ByteDance is. So the bill requires TikTok to divest from this Chinese source, and then they're fine. If they don't, they will be purged from US servers and app stores. So what does that mean? Worst case scenario, TikTok will be a website you can go to. And if you want to use it, it won't be on Apple because Apple's a closed operating system. It'll be on Android if you download an APK. But for all intents and purposes, it is a ban if they do not divest from China. So I love this official mainstream narrative that the real reason is they don't want China

getting your data. Yeah, right. Everybody's stealing your data. Every app is stealing your data. There are a bunch of other apps your data. Every app is stealing your data. There are a bunch of other apps that are owned by ByteDance and other Chinese companies, and they never complained about them. But here we are with them wanting to ban it. Now, the interesting question is, will they actually win in court? I think considering Trump tried to executive order ban TikTok a couple years ago, it's very likely that this bill will just get smashed.

I think it's interesting that TikTok has decided it's easier to fight the United States government than to fight the Chinese government. Like the the effort to remain in the US as opposed to the effort to divest from China appears to be the strategy thing they're going to take. They always said they were going to challenge the bill. They always said they thought it was unconstitutional, etc. But, you know, geopolitically, I feel like they must be weighing which which which of these two forces would you rather fight and it seems like they think the u.s is more likely to to give in i think that that that bite dance is likely uh a cover for or or tiktok is likely an actual tool being used by china to you know for for uh for espionage i don't i can't get specific i don't obviously know but i think that you know china has a desk at basically every single company that is that operates in china that's the ccp desk so every company is connected to the government in the same way that like Twitter had

like a former FBI lawyer at had a desk was their head lawyer. But with China, it's a little more overt than the United States. The United States will use would use soft power would try to influence and pressure people just by being like just by being present, right? So the fact that the FBI was kind of in the office with Twitter meant that people at the offices of Twitter behaved a certain way. With the CCP, you know, with China, it's not subtle. They're very overt. They're like, you're going to do this. And so it's pretty obvious as to why they decided to go ahead and take the U.S. on in court as opposed to, you know, China.

You don't have courts where you can fight the government. It's just there isn't an option. It's this way or we literally send the guys with the guns to shut you down. In the U.S., at least they can try and fight. I'm in favor of the bill. What do you think, Jay? It's just like the other issues we were bringing up before the show. There's no easy answers on this because on the one hand,

I could see this being an attempt at a hostile takeover in a corporate sense, but also at the same time, obviously these things are used for espionage and spying purposes. I know that every time I've tried to put something on TikTok, I get bans and strikes immediately. Yep, even when you're not breaking the rules. i've been banned multiple times for not breaking the rules i put up one minor clip that had like a few seconds of lord voldemort you can probably figure out what i'm talking about unbelievable so i put that up and i was gone um never had any success on it so from a personal

perspective i don't care but i know that there's a something going on psyops wise with the way that this is really messing with especially young people's minds. So at the same time, I understand that the model then is copied by our big tech entities as well. So there's no easy answers here. I'm in favor of it simply because the economic factor, 170 million Americans, they brag about that. That's a massive piece of our digital economy controlled by China, their algorithms and their whims. Nah, I think that's bad. More importantly, I did this segment earlier today about this woman who has the world's biggest lips.

I don't know if you guys saw this story. She's 26. And I noticed this when, you know, like traveling especially, going to Vegas. Young women with massive lip fillers and it's repulsive. Sorry. I just think it is. You know, you could live your life. The way you look is of no consequence to me. If you want to get lip fillers, you do. You don't have to care about what I think, but I'll tell you what I

think. I think it's repulsive. And what we're learning is it's not just TikTok, it's also Instagram, but this is still a large component of we should not allow a foreign entity to be influencing our young people to the point where they're destroying their lives especially with weird behaviors like this yeah it does seem like it's it gets in their heads and uh promotes very strange trends uh i think one of the the biggest challenges that is that the tiktok algorithm is so sophisticated it's setting the standard for what all social media companies are going to do, right? Yeah, exactly. This rapid video platform was quickly adopted by Instagram. YouTube has shorts now. But they can't really, I mean, as far as I can tell, they can't really replicate the

distribution aspect of the algorithm getting people to certain content as quickly as TikTok has been able to. And again, if that's ultimately controlled by a foreign entity, that's extremely dangerous. Yeah. And also a lot of people critique it by pointing out that what's shown in China is not what's shown to Western audiences and that's on purpose. So they'll have long form content that's actually positive messages about like having family and wholesome things. Whereas what's shown here is this really short form content that actually promotes TRNS type things. Should we get super conspiratorial and just assume that Instagram, YouTube shorts and TikTok are the solution to the long form podcast, alternate media, alternative media problem for the deep state?

I'm half kidding, but there's no reason for these platforms to decide that minute-long content is better than two-hour-long content. You had Joe Rogan burst on the scene with these long-form podcasts something like, what, 14 years ago. He's using Ustream. Then he's on YouTube. And these very long conversations become extremely popular. And then with YouTube throughout 2016 into even today, still slowly less so today in the past couple of years, the content that was popular and promoted in the algorithm was 10 minutes plus. Now, I see channels that there's one guy, he's got a great channel, by the way, but all his videos are a minute long. And he got a

million subscribers in like six months from making shorts because the algorithm is promoting this. But then what do you get if the only media you consume is flash in the pan, flip, flip, flip? You get people who don't actually know what's going on. They won't actually explore the issues. And this is mighty fine if you are concerned about the rabble having access to sharing information and deep dives.

Yeah, it reminds me of when people are like, oh, I know a lot about the story. And it's like, well, I read the headline of the story. I didn't read anything else. I mean, it's ultimately giving you what can effectively be the same amount of information as a headline. And I think it does sort of grate away at everyone's attention spans. Oh, absolutely. I think it's really easy to damage your attention span and get addicted to short-form content.

I think, remember when the whistleblowers from the big tech companies came out a few years ago that Jason, I think Rennier guy that, the dude with the dreads, right? And he was talking about how they did specifically design the nonstop scrolling feed for that purpose. Their main purpose was to keep you on the app, which makes sense. But the idea is that you don't ever actually fixate and ruminate on what you're reading. You're actually just constantly agitated. And I think there's something to that from a psychological perspective because there were studies a while back.

I remember Alex talking about it years ago that people that listen to radio or to podcasts, long form, they tend to have a better retention span. They tend to have a lot higher IQ even because they're actually engaging different parts of the brain that just a nonstop visual like this, you're not even like half of your brain is not even being used. It's static. It's just garbled noise and random nonsense, especially when you're doing the thing where you just swipe to the next video and getting the algorithmic feed. You know, when I'm on Instagram, I'm sitting there on a toilet or whatever, I go to my recommendation tab and I get this big spattering of random garbage.

And they're always trying to feed you something. But all I end up watching is just like, right now I think I'm watching a lot of like skiing and snowboarding videos and skateboarding videos. But you look at this big map of content and you choose to watch one thing at a time. And so there's still a sort of through line in that when you look at it that way. But a lot of people aren't even doing that now. What's happening is with like reels on Instagram is they'll watch a podcast clip

and then swipe the next one. My favorite phenomenon out of all this is the fake podcast. Have you seen these? People will make an Instagram short where they'll buy a mic arm, put it in front of them, and then talk to the wall. And they'll say something like, no, no, no, you, like quite literally, they will turn the camera on and immediately go well you can't actually say that i mean if you look at

the economy today we know that biden is responsible for the inflation it's it's ridiculous no that's a ridiculous argument and then that's it there's no person there's no podcast that's the whole clip and then it gets like a million views it's a fake podcast clip because it's probably born out of clips from like joe rogan because people would clip his show and then people realized just make a fake podcast a lot of it's dating it'll be a woman saying no i actually think that men are deserving blah blah blah it's totally pandering to the audience million views a million followers and there was never a podcast to begin with you mean me rehearsing our IRL script could just be our shorts? That's crazy.

If you're watching this on TikTok, Instagram, or YouTube Shorts, there never was a Timcast IRL. It's a green screen, and we've just spliced everyone together. Everything's faking gray. Gray. The room is very gray.

Just like the overlords want it, you know? I mean, this is what I find disheartening about all of this, which is instead of encouraging people to pursue things they're really interested in, like, you know, my Instagram feed is a lot of like house, you know, DIY, whatever stuff. It's constantly bombarding you with this stuff, but it's not a lot of information.

None of these things are designed to give you, well, this is the exact tool that you need. Some of them do, not a lot. And so if you're a young person and your feed is delivering you what you think is news, but it's actually just like fake podcasts and half a headline, you may feel as though you are informed, but actually you are barely on the surface of any issue you've now just devoted, created an emotional attachment to. Most people that surf the little bite-sized content things like your TikToks, like your shorts, like your reels, they have a similar knowledge of the topics that they're willing to engage on. As in they have just a wave top basic understanding.

And I think you see that demonstrated with the protesters pretty clearly. Most of the protesters don't know why they're protesting and the ones that do that can actually articulate a sentence or two about why it's very very um it's very cookie cutter it sounds like they're repeating something from a textbook that they read doesn't sound like their ideas that they have and i think that that's that's emblematic of of the the type of content that those people are consuming because it's not saying that everyone does i just think that it matches up with people that don't really know what they're talking about but have significant emotional attachment to a topic or whatever um but they don't have deep knowledge of it whereas people that have deep knowledge of it that'll spend the time to learn about it they might have significant emotional

attachment to it but it's not going to be the kind of reactionary emotional outburst kind of attachment so i think the uh like the scary thing is that a good portion of the videos on tiktok and instagram are ai generated where people will load a clip there's like a service you can get that will make these videos for you and the robot voice you choose what voice you want and then it will just read a script and so it's all these cookie cutter prefab videos where they'll take a viral clip add an ai voice narrator and then re-upload it to the platform it's just it's just like garbage like sludge yeah we are we are a couple years away from living in the pod and eating the bugs. Exactly.

I was doing a bunch of research on the Diddy thing and I came across like endless YouTube videos that were uploaded of like AI voice commenting on, you know, like this week, Diddy did this, did this. And it's like, not,

not real content, not real information. It reminds me of a Ted talk that, um, one of the tech guys, I don't remember who it was, but several years back, me of a ted talk that um one of the tech guys i don't remember who it was but several years back there was a ted talk about gamification everybody should watch that because the guy was saying that the future will be based on video game studies that were done where the dopamine hit that everybody got from like when you're

playing a game you unlock an achievement that dopamine hit becomes the model that the tech companies would use in their algorithm for you know social media so that's the explanation for all of this is that they know that when you see that you get that that hit and so now you're like addicted to the non-stop constant hit but then the more you do it it's a feedback loop that you're not getting the dopamine that you originally got so it's based on video games it reminds me of dating apps like the people say because you can endlessly swipe and swipe and swipe and like you're not getting the dopamine that you originally got. So it's based on video games. It reminds me of dating apps. Like the people say, because you can endlessly swipe and swipe and swipe. And like, you're just searching for the next match or whatever else,

which may or may not give you a sense of dopamine. Like we are designed to always be looking for the next thing, but to be moving very quickly through it. Billion dollar idea. You want to make a billion dollars? Yes. Okay. It's a dating app service.

You know, it, it feels like Tinder, but it's actually ai and so what happens is you're some dude and you're like i'm gonna go on this app and you're swiping and swiping and the hot chick swipes it back on you and it's like a match and then she's like you know what i actually just moved and but you're so cool and then she whispers sweet nothing's into your ear and it keeps you on the platform and then for some reason she just keeps talking about how great arby's is and you're

like man this chick's weird she's hot but she loves arby's and then you know arby's pays for the right so uh you're close to ty lopez's first idea oh yeah he actually the only difference is that it wasn't ai it was like like his buddies were doing the girls. So it was like a dating thing. But they're like semi-catfishing them. Exactly, yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait. That's the guy from YouTube was like knowledge.

That guy? Remember, I'm just here in my garage. Hey, guys, I'm in my garage. I got all these books for my knowledge. That was like the meme or whatever. His thing was like he would read the first sentence and then like the last sentence of the book. And then that was like the speed reading way to master every book. What was the service he was offering people?

Oh, he had a bunch of different, like the first one was a dating app or not an app is a dating website is pre apps. So it was like a dating website. How'd they make money off that? I was kidding. Like a lot of dudes signed up, like, cause it was a guaranteed match. That's what it was. The service was like eHarmony where it was we guarantee a match but then the matches were like actually his

dude like dude bros in there like you know yeah wow is that fraud I don't I don't remember what happened to that that case I think your idea with Arby's is kind of interesting because Democrat uh Democratic leaning get out the vote efforts will like get on dating apps and be like hey have you registered to vote and a lot of times guys are like i don't know i could that sounds okay like it's how long until influencer culture kind of collides with the dating app and they're like hey if you get five guys to buy you arby's we'll give you a thousand dollars and she's just on there being like you want to go to arby's that's that's the voter registration thing now you know it's going to be like republicans are going to start going on dating apps women and they're going to be like you want to meet up i'm going to register to Arby's. That's that's the voter registration thing now. You know, it's going to be like Republicans are going to start going on dating apps, women, and they're going to be like, you want to meet up? I'm going to register to vote. You want to meet me up? That's what the

Democrats are saying. They're like, I watched this. I was during midterms. One of the Michigan ones in Michigan was like, this girl wasn't even in Michigan. She's like, hey, are you like just constantly to everyone be like, you know, it's really cool voting. Are you registered to vote? Like we can all make a plan to go vote together which also just sounds so weird like if she was on the street or in a bar saying this to a guy i feel like he'd be like no thanks but on an app it's like people are like well this is how we're going to keep the conversation going it's like preying on the the most vulnerable parts of someone's emotions yeah look arby should get in on this they can make a lot of money possibly

or just create a weird influencer network. We're going to live in the pod and we're going to eat the bugs whether anyone wants to or not because all of society is going to move into the pods and they're going to buy the bugs and the market's going to drift away

from cheeseburgers and drift towards roach burgers. The thing is, there's a lot of people that are going to be like, oh, I'm going to go ahead and live in the pod. There's going to be a lot of people that'll be like, oh, I'm going to go ahead and live in the pod. There's going to be a lot of people

that'll be like, this is actually better. Because for a lot of people on earth, the pod is actually a better option than their real life. Maybe that's the plan. Yeah, exactly. If you look at here, a lot of times we think of like,

oh, live in the pod, compared to our life here, right? Which is, obviously, most people in America are like, well, my normal the pod compared to like our life here, right? Which is, you know, obviously most people in America are like, well, you know, my normal life is better than the pod. Not everybody, but most people. But if you're in like Rwanda or a war-torn place or whatever, and you have the option of kind of hunkering down in a pod and not going out into places where you can, you know, be killed and you can stay in the pod and do some kind of menial task or whatever it is that that produces you enough money to keep you in the pod i don't know

that's possible or whatever but that option is a better option than rape you know or death you know like like seriously impoverished if you have nothing around you if they're like we could just be in the spots got air conditioning and it's you know less risk of death and maybe you would be like okay i got a van that might not even have air conditioning but you'll have the neural implant so you won't care difference yeah well the fancy toilet here looks kind of like a pod i was going to climb in there and see what it's like but so you do want to be in the pod yeah but to be fair the fancy toilets have been around for a long time you know long enough for original simpsons to make fun of it yeah you can get a bit like home depot but i do i really legit think that like most people that are like no i won't go like live in the pod they're comparing it to like a generally good life you get some depressed people

that that are you know that aren't having a great life here in the u.s and they're like well maybe the pod's not so bad you talk to people that have miserable lives if they can take the you know the daily drudgery of essentially shoving rocks rocks uphill all day long at or or you know how do you how do you think they'll market the pods like will the pods be sort of like a wellness self-care thing like life's hard take take a week or two off in this pod or will it be more like a environmental thing the air is so bad you could be in this pod. Like, how are they going to market the pods? No, it's going to be a luxury thing.

Yeah. It's going to be like status and luxury and gaming at first. It's going to be marketed as the cool new video game. You got to be in there. You can do anything.

Vacations. Yeah, but it'll be a lot like GTA. It'll be video game and community stuff. So they tried doing with Metaverse, but you had no legs

and you were like this weird Muppet floating around like a Wii figure and people didn't like it. So they got to improve that. But I mean, I'm not saying that like it's a preferable option, but you know, that is something that I really do think a lot of people would, would select the pod over,

you know, the struggles of life. Yeah. Especially if you've got a crappy life like that you know you do if you're because a lot of life is suffering man a lot of your life is suffering and a lot of people that are not in western countries a lot more of their life is suffering than people in the in western countries and that's uh that's that's one way to write like a sci-fi in the vein of The Matrix, but in a different way. How about instead of The Matrix being some guy shows up in weird, you know, like techno clothes and offers you a pill.

You and your friends are playing video games one day. You go to the store and then all of a sudden as you're walking, you can't move. And you're like, what's happening? And there's a flicker. And then all of a sudden you're in a pod with a tube in your mouth. And everyone wakes up from the VR. They put themselves in the system went down and everyone's groaning in agony and pain just moaning like no put me back in put me back in but the machine is broken and then what happens when all of these

humans climb out of the pod with no knowledge of how the system works no idea how to farm humans put themselves in the pod to give them this eternal happiness, and then the machine breaks and everyone's forced out of it. There's a sci-fi movie kind of like that. I'm ruining every one of Tim's ideas. I'm like, I'm sorry, that's already a Tai Lopez. No, there's a movie called The Congress, which is a really good sci-fi story with Robin Wright from Princess Bride, where she gets the corporation, scans her whole body as an actress, and then they own her image. And then it fast forwards into the future,

and basically everyone lives in the pod like you're talking about, but they're walking around like in tattered rags because they just live in this pod. And then when they wake up, they don't really know what to do or how to live. So there you go. Well, let's shift away.

We'll start talking about news again i guess because we've got funny news creepy funny and sad for this country the stormy daniels testimony so lurid it almost derailed trump's trial how porn stars lively claims about spanking condoms scds and the missionary position sparked a slew of objections before the judge called her difficult to control well here, here we are. We've jumped the shark. It was bad enough when it went from there's strife in this country and a conflict between political factions into one political faction is trying to put the other political faction

in prison. And now in the effort to put the former president, who is currently the front runner in prison, a porn star got on trial and started talking about spanking, condoms, STDs, and the missionary position. This is the sad direction the United States has gone. And I assure you, if you went to the founding fathers and said, this is where we would be in 250 years, they'd probably throw up on the floor. I don't think they'd throw up on the floor

because of the behavior of the, because of the president, or the insults, at least. But, you know, they were calling each other hermaphrodites and stuff like that. The idea that... I just feel like they wouldn't have put Stormy Daniels on the stand. They're like, look, you're a woman of loose morals. Like, you're not going to help anybody's case. I imagine there would have been a whole lot more hushing around that time,

you know, with those kind of behaviors. That list of terms there that was supposed to be super lurid is pretty common for sexual coitus conversations. I don't think there's anything that lurid in that. I mean, maybe there's more in the testimony I haven't heard. Did that say spank Trump with a roll-up newspaper? Where? Scroll up a little bit.

Oh, yeah. Isn't that how she spanked Trump with a rolled-up magazine? She said she, like, compared us to drama. Naughty Donald. Naughty, naughty. I don't believe it to be completely honest. Yes, that's crazy.

Weren't some people claiming that this was like an extortion scheme? That she basically knew she could make this claim, she could make up whatever she wanted and Trump would be

forced to pay? Of course Trump spanked her with the rolled up magazine. I don't believe any of it. I see. I don't believe any of it. Part of it is that this had been, this had been a rumor for a little while like e-news had reported on it whatever else like

and then right at the last moment she was like yes there's actually a story and she has since both recanted been like no that wasn't true and then been like no just kidding it was true like so i just don't think she has a good history are you saying that you don't believe they had sex is that what you guys yeah i don't even believe that really yeah i buy that i do i don't think she has a good history. Are you saying that you don't believe they had sex? Is that what you guys? Yeah, I don't even believe that. Really? Yeah, I buy that. I do.

What's the evidence they did? There's no evidence. I just think that Donald Trump likes blonde chicks. There's not even a preponderance of evidence that Trump did. My opinion is not based on any evidence at all, except for other than Donald Trump likes chicks. You just think he's a playboy. Right. I think if you were to claim, like, they were seen together and leaving together and got in a car together, the car pulled up somewhere, they walked in the hotel together, it's like, oh, sounds like that might have happened.

But in a sense, I don't even know if there's any evidence that they actually were alone together. There's like a picture of them. It's the same thing with the woman 30 years ago who was like Trump manifesting at the Bergdorf. I thought that Trump denied with Stormy Daniels. She owes him hundreds of thousands of dollars over all this stuff. I thought the denial was about paying. I didn't think the denial

was about having sex, being together. No, he's always denied it. He's always said it wasn't true at all. They're just rolling out, I think, every salacious possible thing that will just hit headlines it's not even about whether it's true or not. I mean, the Steele dossier, it was all fake. That was all made up. And it was only to be salacious and involved urine. Oh, whoa. So I think this is just another example of that. And from what I know about this testimony towards the end, his attorneys were like, this doesn't have anything to do with anything. We

deserve a mistrial. Judd said no. But also, ultimately, Stormy Daniels was, they were like, so you got these payments from Michael Cohen? And she was like, yes. And they were like, did you know, did Donald Trump have anything to do with it? She's like, I assume he did.

She can't even say definitively that Trump was the one okaying this money. Like, no one can say anything. This is what I hate about this case, which is the prosecution can walk it all the way to Michael Cohen, but they cannot definitively link Trump. But they're still like, but election interference. But even if they do link him, there's still no crime.

Yeah, it doesn't seem that especially since this like catch and kill, like don't let the story out. It had been a rumor for a long time. Like, you know, I don't think it's that big of a deal. What I heard today, I think it was on NBC, was like, well, the Trump campaign thought that his campaign could not withstand another sex scandal in the wake of the same thing. Right. I don't think you understand the Trump campaign. Right, right. How dare you?

How dare you? It makes me think about the absurdities of the news stories with Bill Clinton, right? Which there's actually really stuff going on there, right? But the left, they don't care, right? But here, no. And by the way, the left will defend the most outrageous forms of degeneracy, shall we say. That's all okay. But if somebody might have done something with a woman, which we don't even know who is a blue smorels, that's now like the giant.

So it's basically nothing to do with what's consistent. It's all power plays. It's all oppression. I think it is patently absurd to accuse Trump of such a thing, as we know he is a strong religious family man who would never do anything untoward. Never to any of his three wives. Yeah. I don't think that Trump is necessarily a saint all the time. But because she has been so ridiculous with her story going back and forth, it does not make me believe this. It doesn't make me think that they had an affair. I think always this was sort of a payday for her, especially because she came after a different model who had also been like, I also had an affair. And then Stormy Hemsworth was like, me too, as it turns it turns out that's another thing i never thought of it as like an affair i

thought they were just like they just had sex like i thought it was more like i thought it was more like you know she was she was an adult performer and he was like you know how much do you get for an adult performance would you do an adult performance with me that's what my impression i don't know that it was a deeply romantic accusation that Stormy Daniel made, but the idea is that he didn't pay her for it. She is saying they just had sex on multiple occasions. I think this, with Stormy Daniels, kind of exposes what's really going on.

They're trying to use this opportunity to make up things that can't be disproven to embarrass and insult Trump. She's saying things like, it was brief and I didn't even know it was happening and here's how my leg was just trying to attack the integrity of Trump also by the way I wasn't I'm going from memory

here I might not be remembering perfectly but wasn't she connected to the NXIVM cult and the NXIVM cult had a very they were getting money from the Dems I'm pretty sure I don't know anything about that I thought that was the other blonde girl well isn't she branded or am I mixing her up with I think you i mixing her up with someone else that like actress

um i i think okay so when i was driving over npr was reporting on this they had clips from the trial of stormy daniels they're quoting her saying like oh you know i was sober but when we had this encounter i blacked out and that like what i think they're trying to do is continue this narrative that he is like some terrible monster who abuses women building off these like allegations that E. Jane Carroll brought forward which are also ridiculous uh to continue this narrative of like he is a dangerous predator and you cannot have him anywhere near the White House because all of these cases are starting to fall apart uh again like I said it's very hard for me to get past the fact that she owes Trump money. She has confessed to it and then recanted.

Like, I just don't think she is a credible witness. So this is interesting to say the defense saw their moment after lunch asking the judge for a mistrial on the grounds that her testimony had raised all sorts of extra questions in the jurors minds. Quote, this is the kind of testimony that makes it impossible to come back from, said defense lawyer Todd Blanche. How can we come back from this in a way that's fair to President Trump? There was no need for her to mention that Trump did not wear a condom other than to inflame the jury. Marchand ruled there was no mistrial, but the defense did have a point, he added.

There were several things that would have been better left unsaid, he said. In fact, he added that he had raised his own objection when the defense had failed to intervene in fairness to the prosecution i think the witness was a little difficult to control he said that might be the only thing that he and trump who has been a disgruntled defendant from day one would ever agree on i think stormy they're saying it's going to take what like another two weeks to conclude the the's case. And then we have to go through defense arguments. And in which they have not once shown what the crime is or done anything other than waste Trump's time and try to embarrass him. Yeah, I'm not sure what the actual, like, this is for sexual assault? No.

It's for falsifying business documents. In furtherance of a crime they've not outlined. And they don't have to, apparently. They've claimed it's election interference. But a New York state election law has jurisdiction only over state elections, nothing federal. So they're contorting this in a way that makes literally no sense. I think the goal is they want Trump's—I think they may just think the longer Trump's name is in the news in court for a crime

related to sex, the more it makes him look bad. I don't know that it's doing anything to be completely honest. I don't think so at all, to be honest. I think at this point, people would vote for a ham sandwich

over Joe Biden. And that's something Democrats are in trouble with. All Trump's got to do is come out and just say, it was the best spanking ever. It was a great spanking. I'm going to make spanking great again.

And it's over. The spanking was good. It was the best ever. Crazy Joe. She was very satisfied so I didn't have to pay her. I mean, look, I honestly think people would still vote for Trump. He has such a serious base and

furthermore, Biden is so bad at being president that even if trump did cheat on one of his wives with this tory daniels or whatever you know i think people would forgive that for him biden is bad at existing and he makes everyone's life difficult this happened a long time ago i don't even believe it happened and also please don't put biden back in the white house i think everyone even people who are on the fence like this isn't something that's going to conversion which is why her testimony that like implying there was some sort of power issue is please don't put Biden back in the White House. I think everyone, even people who are on the fence, like this isn't something that's going to convert him, which is why her testimony that like implying there was some sort of power issue

is what they're trying to do to scare female voters like into supporting her. It would be cool if you were right or if I agreed with you, but I really don't think that- Of course you agree with me. You always agree with me. I don't, I don't.

And the reason I don't agree with you is because I don't agree with you that Biden is so vulnerable, I guess, is the thing. Just because of the Democrats' ballot collection and organization and groundwork. I really think 2020 gave the Democrats, like they set it up so that way the ballot harvesting procedure was something that they capitalized on. And I think that they've really got the lock on that. And I think that the Republican, that's the thing that the Republicans have to worry about.

It's not so much about whether or not people like Donald Trump or Joe Biden more. It's whether or not they're going to be able to collect the votes. Right, getting the paper in the basket, so to speak. I think at this point, or I should say, I think it's fair to say that you walk up to a random person and you ask them honestly, you know, if it came down to it, you have two presidents, one who's going to get you paid, but is a dick and one who is a moron and won't get you paid. We know what they're going to say. If you go to the average person and ask them, what do you care more about, a president with

good demeanor and honor and integrity, or a president who might be the worst human being who craps all over the floor, but he puts 100 bucks in your pocket? Done. It's the economy, stupid. And we can take that one step further. That was, who was it, Carville, who said that? No, was it Carville? It's the economy, stupid?

I think it was Carville, yeah. I feel like it kind of was it, but maybe it was said that? No, was it Carville? It's the economy, stupid? I think it was Carville, yeah. I feel like it kind of was it, but maybe it was. Was he referring to somebody else? I'm going to Google it right now. Yeah, it's the economy, stupid. I kind of feel like you can take it one step further, and it's just greed. And I think some people, they think of greed in the worst possible... James Carville, 92.

He did say it, okay. People think of the word greed in the worst possible terms. I'm saying the desire to improve one's personal life, the lives of their family, and the lives of their friends. And that means if Donald Trump comes out and says, John Smith, he's 36, he lives in Dubuque, Iowa, we're going to send you a million dollars. That guy's like, I'm voting for Trump. That's it. That's called rational choice theory. And Rand Corporation studied that to make that their selling point in the Cold War. That what sometimes is called greed is just rational self-interest.

Right. So absolutely. Yeah, I think if, you know, I say greed, but there's varying degrees. I would say that like the extreme version of greed is someone to the detriment of everyone around them siphons away resources watching someone starve or something like that. But for the most part, rational self-interest is a good way to put it. So this is why Joe Biden is paying off student loan debt illegally in violation of basically every brand, the all other branch of government. He's bribing. He's bribing these voters.

And you know what I think Biden's doing with this? He's canceling. You know, he's bribing. He's bribing these voters. And you know what I think Biden's doing with this? He's canceling. You know, he's doing it slowly. He didn't just do a blanket. OK, we've just forgiven all all debt. He's doing it slowly. Now the Art Institute is canceled. Why? What they're hoping for is come November 4th, the Democrats are going to say, look, Biden's already canceled 30 percent of debt i know you've got debt if he doesn't win they're not going to cancel your debt you could get 40 000 today if you simply vote for joe biden enter our sweepstakes sweepstakes called vote democrat and maybe you could be a lucky winner that's what they're doing it's a version of a chicken in every pot

from like fdr period chicken in every every pot. But Biden's student loan forgiveness has been held up in court for a long time. I mean, it's not like he was just like, no more loans, bye guys. It's a huge bureaucratic issue. A lot of people object, a lot of states object to how it's being rolled out. So he is getting the headlines.

Oh, I forgave your student loans. But the reality is that it's not as widespread as the Biden administration would like it to be. But the reality is that it's not as widespread as the Biden administration would like it to be. And on top of that, you know, there's reports out that 18 to 24 year olds have higher credit card debt than generations or the same age group in years previously. Like the weight of the economic burden that I feel like the Biden administration has inflicted on the people is sort of inescapable. He's not gonna be able to forgive enough loans and actually see the loans forgiven before the election to make that compelling enough for everybody, I think.

So now the big piece of this story moving forward, Axios reports Trump's threat of being jailed suddenly gets real. The Secret Service has been having meetings about the high probability that Trump is going to be held in contempt and sent to jail. And this is a game of chicken that I think Trump is intentionally playing. He played the card I hoped he was going to play in that the Constitution is more important and I'd be willing to make that sacrifice. That's what he said when he was walking into the court. He'd be willing to make that sacrifice for the Constitution. And I'm like, I'm not so sure insulting a porn star constitutes defending the Constitution, but the point he's making is stronger than the reality of what's happening in that courtroom.

And that is the judge is silencing his ability to speak during a campaign, and he reserves the right to campaign and stand for his First Amendment rights, no matter how silly and absurd it may be, even if it means he goes to jail. But I think Trump's bet is they won't do it. And he makes the court look impotent by continuing to piss them off, knowing that if they put him in jail, it could actually bump him up at the polls quite a bit. Do you think how do you think Trump going to jail would react? Oh, I think it would be like the greatest, like publicity event of all time. And then he would totally,

it would be awesome. Like it would be, I'm serious. Like they would, it would, it would be like total. But why doesn't he, you know,

he could have gone to the Supreme court oral arguments. I understand the legal teams state like statements they've made. They didn't want Trump to go because it would have made the arguments about Trump and they wanted it to remain about the broad presidency instead, which is better for Trump. But certainly Trump could take actions that would expedite his path towards imprisonment. I think he can't look like he is the like I can't I think he can't look like he is the, like, I can't, I think he can't look like he's intentionally trying to aggravate the judge, right?

Or intentionally trying to go to jail. Right. He has to be the martyr, which he's already set himself up for. And on top of that, you know, his typical conduct is being held against him while, again, Michael Cohen, Stormy Daniels are being allowed to talk about the case on social media in a way that is that hurts him. And I think that was what resonates with the American voters, this idea that the judicial system is not actually to protect anybody. It's actually to silence some people as they try to advocate for themselves. I think that message really resonates with a lot of Americans.

And it's enough to say, like, hey, this is not okay. I also think that, you know, look, when he had to go down and get his mugshot and they immediately released those t-shirts. Yeah, I was going to say the t-shirts. The fundraising on this alone would be incredible. That's what the Democrats are really afraid of because like they saw the reaction for the mugshot and you know, if he goes to jail, it's going to be a similar thing and it's going to be it'll it'll probably be significantly uh more intense do you know the response will be do you think they regret bringing this criminal case against trump kind of yeah i do i i kind of think

so i think where we are right now they're trapped in this position where they're thinking like we really shouldn't have done this but we have no path forward i think that if it wasn't for the fact that the that everything has gone so badly for this administration so the international stuff the economy like things have not gone the way that the biden administration would you know have liked and i think that if it wasn't for that fact they if things had gone better for the biden administration they'd be much more comfortable about what's going on with Trump. But I think because of the significant failures of the Biden administration in the eyes of most Americans, I think that they're really not happy about the fact that where things are because of the behavior or because of the administration's results. You know, I think it all again comes down to Alvin Bragg, because if I'm remembering correctly,

and I'll fact check myself on this in a second. Multiple offices have been like, no, don't bring this case. It's not strong enough. And, you know, occasionally this gets presented as like, oh, well, when Trump was presidency, they didn't want to bring this against him because they're protecting him. But if I'm remembering correctly, Alvin Bragg, when he was the head of the district attorney's office, also turned down the case initially. So the idea that like, as the last minute when they're stacking all these cases against him, they're like, and we'll just throw this one on too. I almost wonder if they thought they would have Trump imprisoned by now and that this wouldn't matter as much. I feel like there's an overlooked element that a lot of this domain is a bunch of boomers,

and they don't understand the internet. And they don't understand like people watching this stuff, and the Streisand effect, and that it doesn't work. And they just keep doubling down. You know, it's like, but whether it's Ukraine, or whatever, like people keep doubling down on these things from the establishment from the from the system. And they don't, they just don't understand why it's not working. I saw, I mean, I'm trying to say, I don't want to change the subject. But there was a clip of a big graduating class at a university and somebody in the speech mentioned bitcoin the entire graduating class whole university basically booed the guy and i'm like so the the university system is basically churning out these completely

brainwashed people they have no idea what's really going on there's this whole other subset of people on the internet on twitter on x that know what's going on. It's anything that happens goes viral. Tucker does a show, you do a show, whatever, it goes massively viral. So people really know what's going on. And it's like this totally, it's like you're either really awake or you're totally asleep. And this system represents all of these super asleep people who are basically boomers, have no idea what's going on. Do you think anyone who's asleep looks at this trial and says like, yeah, Trump's not getting a fair shake? Like, is there a chance that non-politically engaged people

are getting a negative impression of New York State as opposed to Trump right now? No, I think anybody who still is locked into that mode of thinking is pretty much there for the long haul. I think the jurors are pissed off. Can you imagine being a juror on this stupid trial? Yeah. Because every day, at least in the news media, they're like, so a star witness is coming today and this is going to be great for the prosecution.

Then by the end of the day, it's always like they couldn't quite make that connection that the prosecution wanted. You must be so bored as a juror right now. I kind of feel like if I was on a jury, let's say like, you know, is the case of John Doe and Jane Doe. And here's the crime. You know, payments were being made. It's business. And they asked me, like, can you be impartial?

Like, yeah, I don't know anything about these people. And then some woman comes on the stand and she's yelling about all this weird sex stuff. I, as a juror, would probably complain to the judge. And I'd be like, we've been here for how many weeks now? They've not presented everything. Why are you? This is not my civic duty to sit here and listen to the incoherent ramblings of some sex worker.

Like, what is this? I have a job. I have a life to get back to. I wouldn't be surprised if behind the scenes, the jurors are actually getting pissed. There were reports already that jurors are like yawning and they're looking around the room. They're not paying attention. Some are getting like falling asleep.

It's boring. They're like, so did you sign this thing for accounts payable? It's like talking about, you know, your checkbook and accounts every day. Like it's not, it's not a murder trial where it's like motivations and passions and this thing there. And by the way, there were murder trials that have taken less time than this month long. You know, this will probably go eight weeks at this rate. And I just can't imagine that it's compelling to the jury

when it's always comes down to this thing of like, well, I knew Michael Cohen was getting a payment. I didn't know what it was for. I can't connect it to Trump or any motivation. I mean, you look at the premise was bad in the beginning. It was all motivated reasoning. It was all people that had an emotional desire to get Trump. And I think that probably is accurate for all of the accusations against Trump.

They're all brought by people that have some kind of you know that have some kind something to some way to benefit even if it's just their own career because they got trump and stuff and i think that they got out ahead of their skis because of that emotional you know desire to be the person that got trump and now they're in a position where again like the the administration has not performed the way that they wanted to the policies that that they have enacted have not had the same the results that they had hoped for and the american people are noticing and now you've got all these things uh that trump is fighting in court and they're all kind of falling apart the american people are not on the side of

the prosecution generally trump is looked at as somewhat sympathetic because people do have the sense that the government is kind of overbearing and poking at him for stuff that they have let other people off for. Everyone kind of has that sense. It's like, you know, all the stuff about Biden with the with the with the the top secret documents in his in his garage etc all that stuff this isn't nothing that that donald trump is accused of is unique to donald trump it's all stuff that other politicians and people in positions of power have done and stuff so it's not like oh this guy is this unique evil that we have to defend against and i think the american people see through that he's like become more relatable as the trial's gone on. I think so. That's interesting. I think that is always the thing that they tried to, they used to try to contrast Joe Biden and Trump. You know, Joe Biden's this nice guy,

grew up in Scranton, and he's from a big Catholic family. And Trump is this wealthy, you know, he was born wealthy, became even wealthier, always uses privilege against you. And I think in this case, the fact that you're having so many trials go against him, people start to be like, he's just this guy who government's going after. I really be any of us. I got to give Trump credit. I mean, the stories I hear about him from what I seen of him at rallies and seen of him at Mar-a-Lago just recently, first time meeting him. He is one of the nicest guys I've ever ever seen i mean here's a guy who after almost every rally walks down off the stage up to the barricades where his fans are and he and he sits there and talks for 15 20 minutes to all these people shaking their hands signing their hats here's

a guy told the story when i was at mar-a-lago he's late he's walking out there's people there's guests at mar-a-lago and the guy sitting next to me says, Mr. President, can I get a photo? And he goes, do you have to? All right, come on. I'm so late. And I'm like, I've never seen this guy let one of his fans down. I've never seen it happen. And I'm like, that's energy.

That's insanely difficult. And the way he handles his security around his rallies and his fans, he makes sure to let his fans have his time of his time and he gives them the time of day i can't there's a lot of people who are very nice and i can't say i i have the time and energy that trump does to deal with things like this you know we wrap up a show everybody comes up i try to talk to as many people as possible and then it's like look we got to go we're busy and i'm like sorry everybody i gotta go trump stays i'm like that that guy's got to be on a plane.

He's got to fly to the next city. And he sticks around. I think he genuinely really loves, really, really loves the attention and the people loving him. And I don't think that's a bad thing to try to insult him over it. But that means as a president, the only only thing he really cares about is that you, the American population, the American citizen love the guy. And we make we make fun of him back in 2015, 16, 17, American population, the American citizen, love the guy. And we make fun of him back in 2015, 16, 17, 18, all the time for he's the guy who puts his name

in big gold letters on buildings. He wants everybody to love him. I'm like, that's a good thing for a president to have. You want to call it some kind of personality disorder where they're desperately in need of attention from other people? I'd love it if we had a president who was like, I cannot let the American people down. They have to like me. What do I do to make them like me? Good. We're sick and tired of the president going, the corporations have to like me. How do I get the lobby groups to like me? I need their money. Trump was like, no, I want, Trump's the kind of guy who wants to walk down the street and have people be like, we love you, Trump. And then he signs a hat for him. That's what he loves. He wants every day to be that time he went to that

one Chick-fil-A and they're all like, hey, it's so great to see you. When he brings the pizzas to the fire department, he does that because everybody loves pizza. And he's like, they're going to be so happy to see me. I wonder what does that for someone like Trump, like what happened in his life to where he developed that need to make people happy, to have them express public gratitude for him. And the feeling that I got when I saw him give this guy like, hey, I'll get a photo with you. I was like, it really does feel like he's just working for the people. It feels more like he's here to help you. I don't know about always. I don't know about always. I don't know about every time he's ever in contact with anybody. Just from what I've seen at rallies,

there's like some random person, Mr. President, I kind of talked to you, he goes, you got it. And I'm like, he acts like he's working for the people. Like he's like,

that's, that's how it, that's how it seems when you watch him. But you go to any one of his businesses. And I challenge anyone who has, says a bad word of Trump and doesn't believe he's a good dude, go to any one of his businesses and ask his employees, you will not find a single employee who dislikes the guy. You know why?

He shows up, he pats him on the back, he compliments him and hands him a hundred dollar bill. That's how Trump treats his employees. There's a lot of companies that they show up, they insult their employees, they complain about them and then fire them the next day. But Trump famously lines up, he insult their employees, they complain about them, and then fire them the next day. But Trump famously lines up. He's like, everybody come together around. Come over here. Everybody get together.

And then he pulls out a wad of cash and he starts handing out $100 bills to all of his staff. He didn't need to do that. He just loves it. I feel like the, I mean, anybody who has criticisms of Trump, I I mean if you put this into perspective like Joe Biden's policies and everything that Biden it's like an intentional destruction of the country it's crazy like everything that's happened in the last three years is like the country's going to crap right I mean I think inflation border all that stuff so there's really no options if you're going to be voting like there's there's just not even any option you have to vote for trump there's no yeah what are you

gonna do i mean cloward i'll write an article today about cloward and piven if you go deep into that like like that makes more sense as to what's going on do you want to break this down that was a cloward it's just basically a strategy that some of these kind of weird what is it cloward cloward and piven it's these two people uh it's of these kind of weird— What is it, Cloward and Piven? Cloward and Piven, it's these two people. It's like these weird communist boomers. They came up with this idea that you could stress the economy through all kinds of government policies, all kinds of basically socialist-type policies, and then other means that I won't mention, that that would then overwhelm the ability of the system to function and then it would

collapse and then oh then we would get some sort of proletariat or some sort of uprising or whatever so this is the wikipedia i got it pulled up right here actually i don't know if you want to read it you can read it uh yeah it says the cloward pivin strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by american sociologist and political activist richard clower and Fox Piven. The strategy aims to utilize militant anti-poverty groups to facilitate a political crisis by overloading the welfare system via an increase in welfare claims, forcing the creation of a system

of guaranteed minimum incomes and redistributing income through the federal government. So essentially it's looking to use the safety net that is intended to prevent people from falling into poverty, use that as a means to get people to rely on the government. Check this out, check this out.

Beyond this, what does the guaranteed income do? Why do they want it? They stated that full enrollment of those eligible for welfare, quote, would produce bureaucratic disruption in welfare agencies and fiscal disruption in local and state governments that would deepen existing divisions among elements in the big city democratic coalition, the remaining white middle class, the working class ethnic groups and the growing minority poor to avoid a further weakening of

that historic coalition. A national democratic administration would be constrained to advance a federal solution to poverty that would override local welfare failures local class and racial conflicts and local revenue dilemmas it's it's basically sounds like they're saying we want universal basic income to blow the whole thing up yeah yeah exactly that's exactly what the point is because one of the things that ubi does is it removes the the the association of effort with the reward of payment so it's it's actually taking out the working part of working for a living so it's you're just being provided with something and it takes people it puts people in a position where they rely on that they don't have the ability to produce anything to sustain them, that can provide means to sustain themselves,

so they rely on it, and then you end up trapping people. Absolutely. Which is the, this is the exact argument that conservatives and libertarians have against any welfare programs, right? You create a client class,

a group of people that are reliant on that. Dependent class. Yeah, and it becomes generational as well. It frequently becomes generational, so you end up creating this group of people that are reliant on that. Dependent class. Yeah. And it becomes generational as well. It frequently becomes generational. So you end up creating this group of people that are going to be dependent, not just on that, just not for them, but for their generations and stuff. And you can't get rid of it. The difference here, though, I think that makes it a little bit more intense is that

this can be turned into something that's an actual weapon to destroy the existing system. So it's like blow it up from within using the means of the system. And that means if this is the operating plan of what's really going on, then it's not just incompetency that's running the government. There's actually a more cunning strategy at work, I think, to maybe even destroy the country. It's malintention, right? Yes, absolutely. Do you think this is something that the average voter would pick up on? No. Or would they be too caught up? I mean, that's why I think this concern about the economy is so real, right?

If you are desperate, if you are trying to make ends meet and feed your bills, or pay your bills, feed your children, perhaps, hearing, well, you could get relief through a universal basic income or you know something else it's chicken in the pot another version of yeah absolutely but this is like they know that there's not they know what they're doing there's not the ability to actually give everybody chicken in the pot it destroys things and then they can come along later going back to the coon pod issue and say well look uh i mean i think Klaus even said something like this. He said, you're just an angry award. We know you're angry. And then he offers the solution down the road of the technocratic agenda. So there's a really great article at technocracy.news today, Patrick Wood's excellent website. And he was outlining how the Cloward and Pippin strategy

actually leads to the solutions that technocracy will offer to UBI and so forth to solve this. But can you wake people up from this? Like, could you convince people that this is not the promise that they think it is? Probably not. That's the challenge is getting people to understand that. I don't know that you can. I mean, you go to a person, and as we talked about earlier in the show with rational self-interest, and you say, a vote for me is a vote for cash in your pocket.

They'll vote for you. That's it. That's the game that Biden is playing right now with paying off student loan debt. And there's this viral video that I can't, I think libs of TikTok may have posted it where someone's saying, and this is a mixed bag, this person, they're talking about how they took out $34,000 in loans and it's been 20

years or, you know, I think it's been, they said it was 20 years, 15 years, maybe. They've paid back something like $60,000 and they still owe $11,000. And I'm like, yeah, that's also a predatory system that needs to be dismantled and destroyed. This idea that you borrow 34 grand and they got to pay back double that is insane. But then they said, when Biden paid my loan back, it's a closed box. No taxpayer was harmed by this. And it's like, in this particular instance, I will give you, you spent more than your loan was. But there are many people who did not pay back their loans or a greater sum of their loans, and they were given free money. This means at the time, money was created upon the issuance of debt to fund these universities and your rent and your food without labor going into the market, creating inflation, driving prices up as you pull resources from the economy without putting anything back in. Then when they cancel those

loans without you putting money back in or labor back in, the inflation sticks. That's the point. The point at which the Biden administration cancels the debt is when the money supply, and then all of a sudden we get hit by that because it's going to be a massive, now, now it's a massive increase of money supply without an increase of labor. That being said, I actually do agree with first getting rid of the college loan system and then forgiveness for people who've already paid beyond their principal and a suspension of interest rates. But the idea that there's that there are a lot of people posting like, I owe 20 grand, now it's all gone.

And it's like, they're like, I graduated two years ago. And I'm like, okay, that's insane. Some people are getting their loans paid back and they have not paid back what they were given. Right, and we're still issuing federally backed student loans. Like if the system is so broken that we're forgiving everyone that we can,

why are we still issuing them by the way that article is called is the economic system being destroyed on purpose it's a really good article everybody should read that cool i think that's makes a lot more sense as to what's going on i think that even if it isn't on purpose i think the lack of effort to actually fix it makes whether it's intentional irrelevant, right? Because if they're not going to fix it and they know it's happening because anyone that looks at unfunded liabilities

knows that that's our biggest problem and that'll destroy the dollar. So if you don't do something to fix that, if you, and continuously Congress, multiple Congresses have known about this and not done anything about it, then at some point you have to say, well, at least even if they aren't intentional, they don't have the intention to do anything to fix it. I think it adds to this dependent class, right? So you can say, oh, I forgave your loans, but there's always going to be more people who have student loans that are impossible.

You can't declare bankruptcy on them. They have crazy high interest rates. You're sending them into an economy that is broken, so it's very difficult for any of them to pay it off. So you always have this promise of you could be like, we'll elect another Democrat or whoever, and we'll forgive your loans. It maintains this idea that there is dependency,

there is hope that someone will give you this thing. It's exactly what you're talking about in my eyes. If they really wanted to stop it, they would stop issuing federally backed student loans. Maybe the only answer is prepare yourselves. 100%. Learn how to survive, make money, save money, buy things. Social Security's only got 10 years.

Okay, so if you, right now, there's 10 years left for the solvency of Social Security. So, what? 2037. Yeah, so just a little bit over 10 years left for the solvency of social security so what 2037 yeah so so just a little little bit over 10 years but uh like they can kick the can down the road on that they they they they can do things that will kick the can down the road on social security well i mean i don't i don't know what they can do because right now the amount of money that we're spending on the the interest is getting to the point where we're you know it's it's it's eating up a such a significant amount of the federal debt we're we're spending more money on interest than we are on military like people

love again we've talked about this but people make a big stink about foreign aid and stuff like that we're spending more money to pay for the interest on the debt than anything else yeah than than the military you know we we talk about how much money the the u.s spends more money on the military than any country in history any country on earth and it literally spends enough money to defend not only america and the seas but most of be the actual muscle behind europe and still we spend more money on the interest on our debt than we do on the military so i i don't see how this is this isn't on everyone's mind and on every congressperson's mind and on the senate's mind all the time this is so that we have this story from last year from cnbc they say that a

recent report found that starting in 2034 retirees will only receive part of their benefits. I guess the good news is I will not be retired then, and I don't have to worry about it. I mean, everyone else's problem. Everyone should try not to rely on Social Security. You should do your best to not care about it. They're going to increase the tax rate. They're going to do capital gains, wealth tax increases. And so I don't think 2037 is the end.

I think 2037 is when they're going to start saying, during the golden age, we had a 95% income tax. Real austerity is coming. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But I think they're going to start with going after the ultra wealthy and saying they're not paying their fair share. You're right. Well, everybody. They're going to say everybody's going to start owing these you know they'll probably say something about emergency like the national emergency we have to you know start taking everybody's gains at all i mean wasn't weren't they talking about a 40 capital

gains tax yeah yeah let me see if i can find this tweet i think it was unusual wales they pointed out um i'll try and find it that like a large portion of income tax increases targeted people. Here we go. 63% of new audits as of summer, 2023 targeted taxpayers with income of less than $200,000. Yeah. We knew that was the case when the Biden administration said what?

86,000 new IRS agents. They don't need 86,000 IRS agents for the 10,000 millionaires that exist in this country. For everybody. It's for the rest of you. It's because they don't like the fact that you paid your cleaners in cash.

They don't like the fact that you gave your buddy 100 bucks because he helped you move one day. Hey, man, that's taxable income right there, and they're going to hunt you down, and they're going to extract every penny because here's the thing. They don't want to go after the rich people. That was never the plan. When the IRS audits a billionaire, he throws a chunk of million dollars at a lawyer and says, deal with it. Tell me what I owe. The lawyers push back. They argue. They go back and forth. The IRS goes, oh, it's so annoying. So annoying.

The IRS knows, hey, man, the real money is not getting one big investment. The real money is attacking the weak who can't fight back. So what is the IRS doing? The IRS knows that if they send you a letter in the mail that says you owe us 100 bucks, what are you going to do about it? You're going to hire a lawyer? Yeah, right. They know that you're going to sit there and say it is cheaper to pay the money.

That's lawfare, effectively. 86,000 IRS agents, this is what it's for, to tax the poor. And you know what? I wonder if that's the real game. Think about how much money they can make if they go after the ultra-wealthy. They can't make that much. Not much. You get a million bucks from 1,000 from a thousand people congratulations you got a billion dollars

is that really going to cover the cost no we give more than that in a week to ukraine i don't know literally a week what are they going to do they send out a horde of 86 000 irs agents nickel and diming you at every turn oh that that's going to be a massive budget surplus for them and then they can start dumping that into their failed systems and maybe prop up Social Security for a few more years. Absolutely. By the way, isn't the solution already here? It's Bitcoin.

It's the future world reserve currency. Maybe that's the point. Or maybe that's the... Look, I wouldn't be surprised if Bitcoin hits a million bucks a coin or more. There will be fighting about that. About whether or not Bitcoin will be fighting about that. About Bitcoin? About whether or not Bitcoin will be the world reserve currency.

If it happens, it might possibly happen. I'm not saying that it's not possible, but the government will fight that. The United States government will absolutely fight that. They probably won't be alone in that. Here's the issue with Bitcoin. 21 million coins is the max, and there's substantially more human beings

who need to trade. Assuming Bitcoin does reach global ubiquity, what's the total global buying power? Like what's the total global GDP? Push that into Bitcoin. And maybe that's unfair to say total global GDP, but maybe it's even 10%. Maybe this becomes the world reserve currency for basic transactions. Other currencies, of course, still exist and trade against Bitcoin, but Bitcoin becomes the principal. That means one Bitcoin could be $100 million or more if there's only 21 million. And then people are doing trades. Now, I do think in order for Bitcoin, I think its point of pure viability

and stabilization is going to be when the lowest denomination of a Bitcoin is comparable to maybe a quarter or a dollar in US terms. And, or theoretically a penny, if then we could say like a hundred sats, as people would say is a dollar. But a dollar today is fairly weak. The reason is if the lowest denomination of a Bitcoin is equal to like an ounce of gold, you can't sell, you can't trade with it. So it would not have ubiquitous usage or universal usage. If the lowest value of a Bitcoin is comparable to maybe either a penny or a quarter, then you're talking about, you know, 10 sets, they call it, and you buy yourself a cheeseburger. That's a unit of exchange people can easily handle. And that means that cheeseburger today could be 10 bucks, theoretically, or like, I'm talking about a good restaurant cheeseburger,

and like a McDonald's burger can be like a dollar or even two dollars that means one bitcoin would be what a hundred million i think a hundred million dollars i think so yeah if if one satoshi the lowest point of a bitcoin is one cent then one bitcoin is a million dollars so uh here's why i think it's possible for all the people who aren't crypto nerds and don't care this one uh matters i remember 10 years ago 10 years ago i remember 15 years ago alex jones was talking about how they want a one world currency they're gonna make the amaro everybody and then these pictures of the amaro were going around and there was a canada mexico and the united states would have a united currency and that never happened but alex was right about the real id i remember that he was talking about real id well before it happened now it's now you have to have it so here's here's here's the ultimate ultimate con

right how do you get people to adopt a one world currency when they're resistant and fighting and they don't want it and as soon as you start talking about a shared currency between an economic block like north america you get people like Alex Jones ranting about it. Everyone's upset. You trick them into doing it. It was the anarchists, the libertarians who adopted Bitcoin first and then started celebrating and cheering it on. And now we have a fully trackable international digital public unit of value on the Internet.

I think Bitcoin is great. I have a good amount of Bitcoin. digital public unit of value on the internet. I think Bitcoin's great. I have a good amount of Bitcoin, but I would not be surprised if in the end it turned out the deep state made Bitcoin on purpose because now they can publicly track all of your transactions. Everything you do on it

will be publicly available to them. No more cash. And you will be cheering it on as you switch from hard to digital currency. It makes me wonder if we'll get this weird offset of people who go back to bartering. They're like, I will only give you actual goods for actual goods. There will always be gold and things like this, but I'll just put it this way. Assuming there really is some deep, you know, global liberal economic order conspiracy that they want Bitcoin, then Bitcoin is going to be worth billions. Like a single Bitcoin is going to be worth an insane amount of money, if that's true.

I'm not saying it is. I don't know. Maybe Bitcoin really is the salvation of breaking the Federal Reserve and creating a universal standard or something. Yeah, I think to that point, Bitcoin will outlast the existing fiat based currencies. So basically, it's like a black hole, like Max Keiser is always saying that the fiat currencies are being sucked into it, because they are already doomed via not being attached to anything and via the government's having well, ultimately, it's private, but the private entities that really, you know, print the money are basically printing themselves into oblivion. Every fiat currency goes

to zero. And so with something that has such a strong logic and mathematics behind it, like there's no way that it can lose. I think that certain entities probably want to have a share to try to sway it and control it like the entities that have come in via the ETFs. Um,'t think they're gonna be able to control. No, I don't think it could be controlled, right? That's the power of it and why it's valuable. Yeah, but it can certainly be tracked and Using you know, and and they've already done this right? They've been able to associate they took someone's address for Bitcoin Looked at the coins that went into it, and then were able to track every coin and where it went. They mapped out networks of political ideology from it. Kind of scary.

Ooh, I do not like that at all. That's the trade-off is the semi-private, right? So it can't be totally private. There's a semi-private with the public ledger. But at the same time, if this is an invention that's intended to store value and energy over the next 100 years, then it's gonna outlive even the people alive today and probably the governments that exist today. I think that's an interesting point though that fiat always goes to zero. That's true.

I love it. There's this meme of like a dollar in 1913 versus a dollar today. And it's this massive stack, just huge. Like what is it like a thousand something or more? Like the exponential failings of the dollar. It's become toilet paper compared to where it used to be. They had half pennies back in the day.

Remember those? What was it? Like 1700s or whatever? They had half pennies. Because like you needed a smaller denomination for certain transactions. Didn't just under the Biden regime. Isn't inflation up some crazy like 10%, 20% less three years. It's some crazy like 10 20 less three years it's some crazy amount in the last three years like the purchasing power of the dollar is like down some crazy look at this

the half cent from uh what is it the smallest denomination of united states coin ever minted 1793 to 1857 the half cent imagine that we don't even want pennies anymore yeah everyone's trying to get rid of them they say they're too expensive to make and nobody uses them. Yeah. Which is crazy. One half cent. Oh, my. You could just sell your pennies to like meth heads that like crush it up and then go sell

it for the copper. It's worth more than a penny. I've got a- Is that true of like nickels or something? So here's the crazy thing. I've got a US dollar from I think 1893 and it's worth i think like 250 bucks as like a collector's item right it it can actually be traded in the u.s as a single dollar yep because it's still currency i also have a 500 bill that's worth like 3500 which

as a collector's item is worth you can actually still go to a bank and exchange it for five single hundred dollar bills. It's still currency. The funny thing about that dollar is it may be worth 250 bucks, but in 1893, it was probably substantially more than 250 bucks. Like the value of the dollar, the buying power of the dollar back then is greater

than the collectible nature of the dollar right now. The dollar in 1913 had the buying power of $31.55. Okay, so maybe I'm wrong then. The 1893 dollar probably wasn't worth as much. That was 1913, so maybe I'm not sure what 18... I don't think 20 years prior was worth that much more. Things were a bit more stable before the Federal Reserve. What year was it? 18 what?

1893. 93, let's see. Pre-Fed Federal Reserve. What year was it? 18 what? 1893. 93. Let's see. Pre-Federal Reserve. Then they had, remember silver certificates and gold certificates? Yeah. Okay, yeah.

They say that, yeah, it wasn't that much more. It was $35. Okay, so it's worth a lot more. Oh, there you go. I'll take it. Well, and an FDR confiscated gold, right? Mm-hmm.

Yeah. So what do you think happens then in 2034 when Social Security starts collapsing? I think the dollar just, I think the dollar goes up. I think the dollar goes up, or I think the dollar loses its value and we see significant,

we see attempts to try and print our way out of it because there's not a whole lot that they can do. So, you know. So that means Gen Xers, right? 20, 34. No,

it's going to be, well, what's retirement age. It's sick. What is it? 67, 65, 65.

Yeah. So, uh, in 10, 12 years. So it's going to be 13 years from now. And you're, you're Gen X,

you're, you're 48. So this is right around retirement age for you. Yep. And you ain't got nothing uh nothing well i'm not getting i don't i'm not expecting to get anything out of it i just mean like for your generation it will be interesting for the first like class of retirees that are like sorry we don't have anything i mean what is that going to look like like you said maybe they'll

just start being like you get half your benefits we're going to try and get it from somewhere else but uh you know this is something I remember always hearing all the time, which is that, you know, when I was entering the workforce, when I was going through high school and stuff, they're like, well, you'll never see Social Security. Like, it will just not be there. But you still have to pay for it. You have to join us all in paying for it,

like a time-honored American tradition. And I think that level of sort of fallacy, you know, to go back to what we were talking about at the beginning of the show, like, no wonder we have a generation that's just looking for sort of dopamine hits through fast scrolling. Everything around them appears to be crumbling. I wouldn't want to look around either. I just imagine, you know, it's back in like 1913 and these people setting up the Federal Reserve. They're just like, I've got a great idea. We'll borrow from the future.

We will borrow against our kids. Yeah. And that's what they did. And that's, they're just like, I've got a great idea. We'll borrow from the future. We will borrow against our kids. And that's what they did. And that's what they're doing. The way our entire economy is set up is that the older generations are borrowing from the younger generations. And that's like, honestly, that's what Social Security is.

Young people are paying into Social Security and old people receive Social Security checks. Now, here's the best part. It's not just the money's what Social Security is. Young people are paying into Social Security and old people receive Social Security checks. Now, here's the best part. It's not just the money's going to run out. The people are going to run out. Yeah, I was going to say, we barred against the future, but then we stopped producing a future and we're like, whoever's left, you guys pay for it.

Maybe that's why they're desperately flooding the country with illegal immigrants, hoping they'll create a tax base that will fund Social Security before it implodes and blows up the global economy. They're not participating in taxes the same way a native non-American would. I think that should be obvious to everyone. I mean, it's this crazy thing where instead of encouraging people to have families, finding ways to make it easier, encouraging strong family values, they're like, you guys are

the worst. And we're just going to replace you with the people who live in fear of us because we also, they don't have legal status. Sounds great. Learn how to raise chickens, how to farm. Chickens are great. Cows are based. We've got, there's a farm nearby where their property includes a creek.

And it's the coolest thing ever when you're driving past and the cows are just in the water chilling. And I'm just so jealous of those cows. And you're not the part where they get killed in two years, but the part where they get to walk around, eating whatever they want, rolling around in the water chilling and i'm just so jealous of those cows and you're not the part where they get killed in two years but the part where they get to walk around eating whatever they want rolling around in the water and like an idyllic beautiful area i know it's like a short life but a beautiful life i don't really envy that but just to have that farm fresh day with fresh grass and the sunlight on your large cow body well and they never live a day without purpose you know like

they're always they're always working towards their ultimate goal, which is to become, you know, food, which is kind of interesting, right? To become food. I mean, maybe they don't get to choose their purpose in life, but do any of us? I mean, they're living the life, man.

When we drive past and there's that creek and they're just standing in the water and they're drinking from it and they look up, I'm like, that's bliss. And it's only bliss because they don't know they're meat and we are going to eat their flesh. So animal farm, you're basically a communist. Animal farm, right?

I'm just joking. How does that make me? Because the cows get to live in ignorant bliss? Well, no, I'm just joking. Because in animal farm, it's like the farm is a model. I was just being silly. Let's jump to this next story from the AP News. New York governor regrets saying black kids in the Bronx don't know what a computer is.

You don't say. I don't understand how New York continues to keep her in office. Welcome to the Democratic Party. Yo, she legit said that in an interview. Do they have the, we should find the video of it. Let me pull up the video on X. Dude, it is absolutely wild that this is genuinely what they believe and uh it reminds me that amy horowitz video where he he goes to these berkeley

students everyone's seen it and he's like is voter id racist and they're like yeah because you know black people don't know what how to how to get on the internet or where the dmv is all right you guys ready here we go young black kids growing up in the bronx who don't know how to get on the internet or where the DMV is. All right, you guys ready? Here we go. Young black kids growing up in the Bronx who don't even know what the word computer is. They don't know. They don't know these things. And I want the world open up to all of them because when you have their diverse voices innovating solutions through technology, then you're really addressing society's broader challenges.

Okay, hold on. Hold on. I'm going to play it again. Young black kids growing up in the Bronx who don't even know what the word computer is. She did say young kids. And we know that a kid is under the age of 12. And so on the younger side could be four, maybe four year olds don't know what the word computer is. Take that, MAGA. Like Hillary's super, remember her super predator comment? This is like Hillary, right? Or she said kids, maybe she means baby goats. And I don't think goats know what computers are.

I mean like- She's talking about the actual color black baby goat and she's trying to help farms, but Republican bigots are always thinking it's about race they don't believe in urban agriculture like kathy hokal does right in all seriousness democrats are actually racist talk down to minorities they they uh it's it's it's not talking down as the right way to describe it they they uh act stupid yeah they infantilize black people, according to Yale. And this is how they view the world. Democrats have always been the racist party thinking they're better. I mean, this is literally the argument of the Confederates. They're just like, we are better learned and civilized and the savage must be tamed. And that's basically how they still view minorities. The idea that there is a racist party and a not racist party is absolutely clown world BS.

And if you buy it, I'm laughing at you. But there is. There's the Democratic racists and the Republicans aren't. There's Democrats that are racist, but there are Republicans that are racist too.

There are conservatives that are racist. Like it is not like everybody got some hate on them. So like putting it up at one group. Kathy Hochul thinks that there appears to be a third world country in the middle of New York. Kathy Hochul is just stupid. But she's the governor. That's who they picked.

They picked this woman to represent them. That seems crazy to me. Stupid and racist. Stupid and racist. Yes. Well, it's funny because the Republicans are always jumping in every possible hoop to stress that they're not racist. And then the Democrats are always the one making the faux pas, kind of like admitting what they really think. But then everybody thinks, no, no, no, if you're a conservative, you have to be racist.

She said, of course, black children in the Bronx know what computers are. The problem is that they too often lack access to the technology needed to get on track to high-paying jobs in emerging industries like ai that's why i've been focused on increasing economic opportunity since day one of my administration and will continue that fight to ensure every new yorker has a shot at a good paying job she's still basically saying the same thing when amy horowitz went out in one of the greatest videos of all time and he asked these berkeley students if voter id was racist, and they all said yes. And they were saying ridiculous things like black people don't know where the DMV is, and they don't have the internet, and they don't have phones.

And so he goes to, what did he go to? He went to the Bronx, right? Or did he go to Harlem? I'm not sure. He went in New York, and he went to a black neighborhood. And he was like, he didn't ask him about voter ID. He just went, do you have an ID? And they were like, yeah.

And he's like, was it hard to get? And they're like, yeah. And he's like, was it hard to get? And they're like, no. And it's like, do you know anybody without an ID? And they're like, what do you mean? Everybody's got an ID. Like, you go and get it. He asked this one young guy. And he's like, what are you talking about?

Like, everybody who's 16, you go get your ID. Like, what do you mean? And he's like, oh, I'm just wondering. And then he asked one young guy. He's like, do you have access to the internet? And he's like, yeah. I got it on my phone right here. And he's like, do you think kids have access to the internet? And he's like, yeah. I got it on my phone right here. And he's like, do you think kids have access to the internet?

And he's like, every kid's got internet. They just get it on their phone. But the best interaction of all was when he asks this older guy, he's like, do you know what the DMV is? He goes, yeah, you just make a left up here on 25th. Like he thought he was asking for directions because it's the stupidest thing in the world to ask somebody if they know how to get to the DMV. Of course, it's right over there.

Been there like dozens of times for all of my needs. The world Democrats live in. It's like they isolate themselves, surround themselves by other affluent white liberals, and then tell each other how superior they are and how racist everyone else is. What do you think, Jay? It's ultimate double think. It really weird i don't know i mean i mean the greatest sin you can commit in our society is something quote racist uh the democrats do this all the time uh it's just it's bizarre it's weird we live in an orwellian double thing do you think they can get away with it more than oh absolutely like just because they have the right letter at the end of their name yeah i don't know i just think we shouldn't live in their world we got to build our

own parallel economy you know sell our own coffee and music you know and culture you could send missionaries to the bronx and teach young children about computers apparently according to kathy like the the everyone has verbal gas, but some of these ones are so like a slip of the mask. It feels like, oh, you really think that your world is inaccessible to young people of a different race than you. And that is creepy and weird. I think that one of the things that I have learned

or noticed about the whole CRT thing and the woke people is is racism is something that we can try to try to minimize but that is something that's in most people and they it comes out when they say the dumbest stuff and and i don't know that you can actually like get rid of it and i think that the best options try not to focus on it like you know like the woke people do because i think when you focus on it only it only manifests in bad ways but i think that like the idea that people aren't going to have those kind of slips is probably you know you probably expect people to be you know inhuman if you think that they're

not going to slip and say dumb stuff like that you know not that i'm making excuses but like no but just as a governor it's like do you understand what the breakdown of your community is and being governor new york is obviously slightly complicated because you have very urbanized new york city but then you have a lot of the state that's that's different it's more rural there are some other mid-sized cities um but you know anytime she now signs some sort of educational bill right and she's like well i want to send computers to all these places or do whatever. It calls into question what she actually thinks of her constituents and if she actually has an understanding of their needs. Like if she meant to say these students who live in the Bronx may not have a computer in their home, I would have understood.

But just assuming they don't know what it is seems like you are actually the ignorant person. She's talking about like she's got an image in her head you know she's not talking about she doesn't know who she's supposed to be represented like when she imagines the bronx she's thinking north sentinel island and i don't want to ruin that for her there's nothing wrong with just let her live her life she's only the governor of this state. Can we go back to what Democrats were saying 20 years ago where like Quentin Tarantino was always arguing that you should shout the N word from the top of every building.

Remember that? Like, but now actually what he said, yeah, there was an article. He gave an interview and they were like, what do you think about free speech? He was like,

I think we should go out. We should shout the N word from the top of every building. And then he did in all of his movies. And then he does. But then he's like, what do you think about free speech? He was like, I think we should go ahead. We should shout the N-word from the top of every building. And then he did in all of his movies. And then he does. But then he's like, you know, yeah, like super Democrat anti, you know. It's like we watch Pulp Fiction and I'm kind of wondering, like, Quentin, did you just really want to say the N-word as much as possible? And he wasn't hiding it, apparently. He's giving interviews being like, yes.

From the top of a building. It's like he wrote himself a character that literally just keeps saying it over and over and over again. And it's like, okay, we get it. You know what I mean? But then he's like the most, he'll go after anybody that's, you know. But he has the right letter

at the end of his name. But I'm portraying a racist. Yeah, right, exactly. That's how, everyone talks about the past. You get it if you have a D next to your name. Otherwise, it doesn't matter. But I think the important takeaway

from all of this is, I'd be willing to bet, because I'm an egotistical dick, that if you were to play a clip of the North Sentinel Island joke to Democrats, they'd go, I don't get it. And the average Republican, I would say, they'd probably go, Tim, that was a bad joke. But they understand what North Sentinel Island is. And it's like what you were saying about people who listen to talk radio have like longer attention spans. And I also think that there's a correlation between today being on the right and being smart and being on the left and being not smart. Of course, they're adamant that they are very smart because Stephen Colbert told them 20 years ago that reality has a liberal bias.

I like your theory so much, I don't care if it's true. Yeah, I think that, you know, it's like, what was it, Johnny Rotten? You know, never did I think that the right would be the cool anti-establishment ones and the left would be the whiny twats trying to ban everything and it's like well you know there you are i think that uh you watch someone like bill maher and every episode it's just like my guy do you read the news and i think probably the most embarrassing thing ever for bill maher was when he read the quote from jack posobiec that was an obvious joke and you could tell he realized the last minute as he's reading it he's reading a joke and then he's like are they really saying

this it's like wow bill you're so dumb but he knew and he and he's like well don't quit your day job jack's day job is political commentary why would he quit he's like, well, don't quit your day job. Jack's day job is political commentary. Why would he quit? He's not a comedian. But it was funny either way. They've become the party of cult-like, ignorant, mindless drones. And just looking at the ignorance of his panel, you know, Batia Angersagan's like, Bill, that was a joke. He was making fun of the media reaction

over these things. And he's like, oh, but then you watch the Prager interview. You watch the Don Lemon interview. And he just shows over and over and over again, the dude has like, he has no understanding of modern goings on. So if I were to make a joke about North Sentinel Island, a lot of people are going to say, yeah, sure. Like it was a weak joke, Tim, and that's fine. But you know what North Sentinel Island is, you know what I mean? Like that's, that's kind of the sad reality of things. Do you think humor extends to all parties or do you think there's sort of a chasm between the types of humors people on the political spectrum can tolerate? Tough question.

I think certain, I mean, there's double standards everywhere. And also, I think that people aren't, they're less and less understanding humor precisely because of the dumbing down. So people can't grasp like things having multiple meanings, different senses, nuance, that's very important in humor. Comedy requires that it requires a kind of a high IQ, you have to have, you know, some knowledge of things and understand the sense in which people, but I think a lot of young people, especially like the rise in autism rates, and all that, that's creating a kind of a young generation that sees everything as very literal, very, you know, the, the people you're talking about in terms of like social

justice, uh, you know, protesters that are very black and white, very literal. Everything is, is a, is a, uh, is as it is. Nothing is nuanced. I put out a few tweets last week or maybe two weeks ago that went viral. They were obvious jokes, you know, to the same point that you're making about Jack's Jack's tweets. And like, I was reading through the comments, and probably half of the commenters couldn't grasp a very obvious joke. The nuance that was there, obviously, was obvious. So I think that, I mean, there's a lot going on. But I'm really worried about, you know, going back to

the point earlier about the scroll and the feed, like people are something's going on with whatever is going on with young people that they're not getting educated. Like they're- They're missing some sort of wiring. Yeah, they're spending all their time on TikTok and they're flicking through minute long videos and understanding nothing.

And they didn't, I mean, I think about, so the people point this out, people who would be graduating from, let's say Columbia or any of these universities, they also missed their high school graduation because of COVID, right? Like there is a generation that was socialized in a way that was very limited and very internet dependent. And I think we are seeing the effects in rapid time because the internet makes

everything evolve even more quickly. They talk about this with slang. Slang evolves more quickly with the internet age. We're going to go to Super Chat. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends and head over to timcast.com. Click join us to become a member and you'll get access to our members only discord server where you can hang out with like-minded individuals. There's pre-shows, there's after after shows, there's community stuff going on and people are working on projects. So if you want to get involved in something, start a project with someone, find people who are like-minded,

that's the way you do it. But you'll also get access to our uncensored call-in show coming up at 10 p.m. It's going to be fun. We're going to take your calls as members. But for now, we'll read your Super Chats.

Lincoln with the first Super Chat says, have Nick on, make it Rumble or members only. You won't. What was the point of that last, you won't? Like, why do you do that? Because now you have to be like, well, now I will. Oh, aha, you've tricked me.

Now that you've said it, I must do it. I've always said you should have Nick Offerman on. I thought he would be a great guest. He's super leftist. No, I'm just kidding. Nick Cage? Well, this is the thing about all of the Fuentes stuff. We never even talked to him.

And he never even asked to come on the show. It was Jake Shields who wanted Nick to come on the show and then dragged Nick into it. And then Nick gets mad. And I'm like, I don't even know why Nick is involved. He had nothing to do with it. But the most important thing is we never even said we wouldn't have him on the show. Jake got mad that I didn't respond to his text for a week and then was like complaining about it. And the issue was like, okay, well, if you want to do it, it has to be a debate.

And then Nick was like, oh, it's because they're scared of getting censored. And if they should just say, I'm done with these games, they're playing games. Quite literally, the first thing I said to Jake was, if we just have you guys on the show to talk about Jews, we'll get banned. But if we do a debate, then we can do the show. So why don't we find someone to make it a good show and we'll make a big show? And he said, okay. And then everyone said no. And then he's like, his excuses, he wants to do the show with like some smaller, lesser known personalities. And it's like, okay, look, dude, when he came back to me and said he wanted to debate Shmuley, I said, sure, but like you realize people will just say you copped out of a real debate. Like you want to get like an actual academic or high prominent Jewish personality who's going to challenge you, then we can do that.

And he agreed with me. And then he texted me and then like, I'm busy. And he's like, because Tim didn't give me all of his time, therefore I'm angry. And then ultimately it came down to, I think Cassandra, I don't know exactly what she said, but it's like, look, if we just have you on the show without doing it debate style, then we just get banned and nobody wants to take that risk. And then they all get out of Benna shape and they're complaining and whining about it. Because that's what they do.

Get Nick Cage and Nick on here to debate. Yeah, that would never happen. But I'd get Nick Cage on and talk about movies debate. Yeah, that would never happen. But I'd get Nick Cage on and talk about movies. Token Black Guy says, howdy, people. Howdy, Token Black Guy. Clint was not here. Kyle says, my name is pronounced Kyle, but my friends call me Kiel.

Proud member since January of 2021 and recently upgraded to elite. Thank you for providing a trustworthy source of news coverage. I am mildly perturbed because the goal of the Elite membership is because, you know, the team came to me and said, Tim, you should do like a higher tier membership where it's like Elite access, slightly more expensive and more involved. And I said, oh, that's a really cool idea. We can do things like pre-releases and like privy information. And so the ultimate thing was the first thing we can do that really makes the elite membership worth it is key fob access at the new Castbrewer location, which means you will have a key to the private club. And, you know, hanging out at Mar-a-Lago, which is very expensive, it's like, I don't know. I don't know exactly how it works, but you're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to be members of these places.

We have our version of a club, which is $100 a month, and that covers a lot of basic costs like maintaining the building, and there's drinks there. We might still have to charge a small, like, at-cost rate or something, but then you get a key fob access. And so I'm mildly perturbed because we're just stuck in permitting, waiting for the drawings to come in and it just takes forever. And it's absolutely insane how long this takes because we've been waiting two years, or I shouldn't say two, like a year and a half to get this thing going. And the first thing is like, we got some contractors, no good, bring another contractor. It's no good. Now we've got a contractor who's super good, but now we just have to go through permitting. So it's taking longer than we thought, but the elite club, the elite membership is a

hundred bucks a month. And the point is we want to create physical spaces where you will actually walk up to the door and go beep, walk in and hang out, play video games, watch TV. It's a private thing. So there'll be like, you know, I'm assuming we can have beer and stuff like that, but then you're hanging out with other like-minded individuals in the area. And thus we create the third space. they call it. A place to hang out outside of work or home or restaurants or whatever where you can network and build stuff with people. That's the ultimate plan. But Kyle, thank you so much.

We really do appreciate it. Mr. Batalon says, howdy, Tim, and howdy, Clint. See, even though Clint isn't the first super chatter, he's still getting shout-outs. Did Clint go to the gym today? I wonder. I don't know. Relax, buddy, says I've been a viewer from the start. I'm a single dad with two boys, five and three and a mortgage.

A teen drunk driving destroyed my car recently and I'm struggling to get to work every day. Anything helps. Blake R. Meters. Meters? I hope that was right. Let me see if that comes up. Otherwise, I might just be sending money to a random person who doesn't actually need it. But I'm sure they'll be happy nonetheless.

So if I search for this username, I don't think it's going to come up. Blake R. Meters? We could not find any matching profiles. Blake R. Meters. I have venmo that's what i have so sorry man ceo fat girl says yolks for breakfast lou maltese for second breakfast oh lou malnati's okay so it's typo portillo's for elevensies london house for afternoon at tea prime and provisions for dinner and and purple pig for supper. This is the path everyone agrees.

I suppose if you live in Chicago, everyone agrees. You know what I learned, an important lesson? When I was growing up in Chicago, I was like, we don't have good skateboarding. We don't have good music. Like, we had our music. We had skateboarding. But it was always just like the real cultural stuff in these areas was happening in the west and east coast. And mostly the west coast.

And then I learned Chicago's the city of food. That's like they got the culinary institute or whatever taste of chicago and then when i left and traveled to other places and all the food sucked i was like wow chicago's got some of the most famous food in the country that's how i felt about uh pizza growing up in new england apparently there's a whole theory that new england is right at the center or at least like coastal Connecticut is at the center of the pizza belt of America, which is based on where immigration settled. And it's one of the reasons that the Pizza Hut and Domino's started in the Midwest and they conquered there, but it was really difficult for them to break into the Northeast market because the Northeast

already had good pizza. Do you have a theory as to why the Northeast has good quality pizza? Because the argument goes that it is the water in New York and Southern Connecticut that makes, because that's where the focus is, Southern Connecticut, New Haven, and New York and stuff. See, Phil knows what I'm talking about. Of course I do. I'm from Massachusetts. Do you think, do you have an opinion as to what it is? Is it the actual recipe or is it the water that's used?

I think it could be something like either water or some type of ingredients. I think part of it is that from what I read, shout out to one of my favorite podcasts ever, which is the Food That Built America by the History Channel. They talked about the fact that people who started making pizza for these chains use like the recipe for French bread. So I think part of it is just the immigration and institutional knowledge on how to make the crust correctly uh and that changes changes the game well there was a pizza place i think it's in tampa and they import water

and flour from new york yeah it's people really believe this uh but altitude and humidity matter a lot part of the reason one of the things things that I have heard people talk about is because of the mineral content, because of like New Hampshire and New England and stuff, there's a lot. It's the old bones of New England, the mountains and stuff. Do you think that's what it is? I don't know that I think. But hearing it, to me, it's at least slightly compelling.

I don't know that I have a, I don't have a strong feeling, but I'm like, well, that makes sense. Because I know that I have a well at my house in New Hampshire and we have the best water that I've ever had. Let's read some super chats. We got Highest Inversion says, please pray for my friend Cara. She's a single mom of three living in South Carolina.

She needs help with bills, saving for a new car go fund me the clj squad best of luck uh you know sad to hear it but i hope everything works out billy mfp says ai trump what does it say ai or it says l trump doing maxine waters call for violent speech and see how she reacts to it oh i see i see ai trump doing maxine waters speech and see how she reacts to it that Oh, I see. I see AI Trump doing Maxine Waters speech and see how she reacts to it. That's a good idea. Someone should take all of the bad things that Maxine Waters says and plug it into an AI that sounds like Trump and then just put it

up on the internet and be like, listen to what Trump said. I do a really good Maxine Waters impression, but I'll save it. Is that an after show? Yeah, we'll have it on the after show. It'll be fun. Deconstruction Area says, Clint this and Clint that. Where is I'm not your buddy guy, Ben? It's been all these months.

Yeah. Yeah. I love this community search effort. He's missing. Gig Drive and Thrive says, cut off all podcasts except for IRL. Listening since 2020 kept me sane in this crazy world. Me and my family of five need to come up with 1k by friday or evicted anything helps dmd kevin do we believe him is that venmo dmd kevin

dmd kevin we could not oh wait it popped up it popped up do we believe him i think so he supports irl if i support irl does that mean everybody can know? Oh, I just mean he's like saying he's been listening for a long time. Do you believe him that he needs $1,000 otherwise he's evicted? I need to know more details. I don't know. No. So that's abstain.

Phil, what say you? Abstain. Abstain? No, I want to abstain. This is peer pressure. What about Serge? Pure democracy. I don't know. I know what it's like to be struggling Serge? Pure democracy. I don't know.

I know what it's like to be struggling for rent, but I also don't know anything about this dude. He's just a random YouTube commenter. He is just from the internet. So does that mean everyone votes no on giving him $1,000? Well, we got two abstain. This is impossible pressure. I hate this. And one yes. It seems

like the vote fails. I feel bad. I feel like I have this guy's like his livelihood or his home is literally on the line right now. I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to send him $1,000. I want to believe that like someone who takes the time to do this is genuinely asking for help.

But it is hard to tell with the internet. That's one thing that I hate right now about culture, which is like everything is so intense. Everyone has their own negative reason for doing something that you just it just we're breeding a society that doesn't have any optimist that doesn't believe in anybody for good reasons. On the other hand, that seems like a long term poor investment. Congratulations, Kevin, I just sent you $1,000. I have no idea if you're telling the truth, but maybe you'll have fun either way. And then there was that other guy

from last night actually super chatted too. So I imagine'll pay his rent but that'll that'll be the last one and then maybe for the week maybe how i maybe depending on how i feel tomorrow if people are like you know my dog is in need of surgery or something we'll start to i feel like you have a dog to need surgery i need to see a picture of it you know what i'm saying like you could prove that you have yeah like the go fund me's i feel are safer like someone just being like venmo me it's kind of rough because someone could just be sitting there eating pizza and being like i needed more food so uh my car broke and that's like yeah i think and the other part is like with the gifts and go stuff or the go fund me's i wonder if seeing like a big donation come in helps other people sort of jump on board and be like oh yeah i'm gonna give this to i don't know there's sort

of group encouragement let's see We'll grab some more. Infinite Soul Daddy says, listen to the show while waiting for my twins to be born. Wife is in labor, but we are at a lull in the action. She's chilling and political gossip is breaking up the boredom. Wow. Good luck, sir. These are my favorite super chats that we get when people are like,

I am having a child. I'm about to have a child. The child just arrived. I love that you're having twins. I wish this person could tell us their names, but I feel like that's children's privacy. But yeah, best of luck with labor. That sounds awful. Rob says, Phil, I use exercise to manage my mental health,

especially now as I go through a rough patch. And I have to say Divine has been on repeat since it came out. The chorus is catchy as ish. Also, is it true Hetfield is based? I'm not sure if Hetfield is based. i'm not sure if hetfield is based i have heard rumors that hetfield is based uh and thank you so much for uh spinning divine i appreciate the hell out of it we're really proud of it and uh it's uh it was a lot of work in a long time that

we had to sit on it and now that it's out i'm very very happy that you guys are enjoying it justin justin says tim that's the second chair in the new studio. LOL. Is that the one or will you find another? It's the third. You mean second new chair? So here's what happened. We have these Boston chairs,

which have been reliably good for the entire duration of IRL. But what happened was the one that was here, I don't know if someone, I think someone put a screw in wrong or something. And so I just grabbed this other chair that we had and just used that one instead. Because whatever was, like the Boston chairs are fantastic.

I got no beef. We use it for years. But the one that was put together, I think was put together wrong. And so it like hurt my ass. And it was like arching my, it was like, it was an angle. And so I was like, I can't sit on this.

Someone's got to fix it. So I just grabbed the other chair. And then I saw this cool looking cloth chair on Amazon. I was like, oh, I want that one. That one looks pretty good. And so we just, we just, I then i saw this cool looking cloth chair on amazon i was like oh i want that one that one looks pretty good and so we just we we just i just used it i don't know that's it that's the reason why i have a different chair nothing nothing too exciting all right where are we at let's go tyler mitchell just a super chat thumbs up oh it's you it's really cool you know we could do? Maybe everyone else can vote on these chats. If, like, someone says something like, I got to pay my rent, and they really think the person's telling the truth, then people could give a thumbs up.

You know? Something like that. I think we could help some people out. We get a lot of people with super chats saying, like, they have a GoFundMe and they're looking for help. So we could certainly help out some people we have the means we will do our best certainly we can't help everybody sg says hey tim this is sg wasn't able to get you my venmo last night for rent but here it is thank you for all the help stephen griffin 444 huh all right let's see stephen. Stephen Griffin and 444.

And it popped up. There's a picture of a guy with a woman and a dog. What kind of dog is it? Oh, I can't tell. Is that a dachshund? Nope. Maybe a baby pit. Can't really tell.

It's too small. But what did he say he needed last night? He needed like $17.90. Do you remember? We'll give him $2.90. Do you remember? We'll give him $2,000. For no reason. What's this for?

I'm going to put no reason. And I'm going to put, you know, do whatever you want. There you go. And there we go. It's sending. And okay. Well, there it is. Congratulations, sir. Hopefully that pays your rent and you were being honest and you're not just lying to take money from me.

Maybe some people will be helped. Let's go. Tina Collette says, I found a use for the pod. We need people to make chips for electronics, free housing, meals, and four 10-hour days in a Silicon Valley 15-minute company town. There you go.

Yeah. The pod thing is so weird. Someone should just, like, ask for money for no reason at all. Be like, I'd like to buy myself a pizza right now, and then I will send you 20 bucks. Maybe by the end of the show I'll do it, because I just gave away three grand. Here we go. T-D says watch tucker carlson there is a loophole for migrants in the u.s constitution is there like a way to make it a marketing budget thing like a way to market the

show is that we just pay someone's rent every episode i think the word of mouth on that would i'm like that's the best marketing ever you know what i mean like everyone's gonna be like dude i'm watching that show i mean yeah that would that would probably our. I'm like, that's the best marketing ever. You know what I mean? Like, everyone's going to be like, dude, I'm watching that show. I mean, yeah, that would probably. Our marketing budget is now, you know,

I was talking about this with some friends a long time ago because Casey Neistat did this thing and he had a video where he's like, I was offered $25,000

to do a promo for the life of Walter Mitty or whatever that movie was with Ben Stiller and he's like, so we decided to take the budget of $25,000 and just go do, like go deliver supplies to people. Like there was like a hurricane

or an earthquake or something. And I was like, imagine if marketing was companies competing with doing the most good for maximum exposure, like Mr. Beast style or something. So Coca-Cola is like, we could spend $10 million on this commercial where, you know, or like Pepsi is like, we could have Kendall or whoever Jenner give a Pepsi to a cop and spend millions of dollars filming this. Or we film a video where it's literally just a guy in

a Pepsi outfit being like, instead of spending millions of dollars on a commercial, that would probably just be a waste of your time. Pepsi is going to give the entire budget too. And then they go and they help like people with cataracts, like, you know, like Mr. Beast did. And then the goal of the advertising among companies would be who could do the most good. It probably wouldn't last forever, but I feel like it'd be a good marketing stint for a couple months where all these companies are like, we're going to allocate our marketing budget to some, like, you know, like, you know, charitable expansion or something like that. It makes me think of when, you know, know your local dentist office will sponsor the local baseball team and so they get like the plaque in the office and maybe the kid's jersey has like the dentist logo on it but it's you know something directly to their

community there maybe they get a tax write-off or something but they're not running commercials they're just sponsoring you know youth sports like oprah style like you could bring people in and you buy them a cow like oprah would get cars for people but you were chickens yeah chicken yeah we should do we should a lot can we do an event where like we give everyone who attends a live chicken a chicken in every pot but you actually literally do it let's go the real hydro px says trump is a germaphobe why would you want to have sex with a woman who is a porn star good point alex what is phil has too much prejudice from stories about trump oh let me see prejudice like listen just because i think that trump might have actually had sex with the woman doesn't mean i condemn trump for having sex with a woman okay like just

because i'm not condemning it i'm not i'm not'm not, I'm not like, dude, you did the wrong thing. And it's a bad, I'm like, I'm like, man, look, if that's what you want to do, go, go get it, man. I'm fine with it. The idea that this is like some kind of like, Oh, Trump's the bad guy. And he's such a, a very bad man. I don't care, man. Go knock yourself out, man. I don't, you know, I ain't mad at him for it. Smashing random Key says, why can't you just host Nick on your own website? I'll explain a couple of things. For one, I don't do the booking. Cassandra does booking for IRL and Lisa does booking for Culture War.

We didn't reach out to Nick. Nick is an Insta band for the most part. You'll get censored. You'll get demonetized. Then his fans will start sending you emails and i i thought it wasn't really his fans but you know like elijah and mary were convinced his fans actually do this because for whatever reason i don't know so okay whatever whether you think it's but people who claim to be fans of nick fuentes will then send death threats threats to it you know oh yeah like rape your children and do

the stuff and then you when you try to do events your insurance company is going to it you know oh yeah like rape your children and do the stuff and then when you try to do events your insurance company is going to ask you about these things then you're gonna they're gonna have requirements for security so people just genuinely don't want to have him on i think it's also fair to say that when like jake shields tweeted out uh he told he told me that i lied like a jew i think that instantly got a bunch of people to be like nobody wants to book you when you do this stuff it has nothing to do with whether you're insulting people for being Jewish or whatever. YouTube will ban you for any invective targeting a race based on their race or ethnicity. That's just it. So the issue for having Nick on our own website is also saying, why don't you cancel an

episode of your show and do an exclusive on your website instead? It's like, because we do the show live on YouTube every night, we always have. And so we've not really thought about changing the structure of the show to accommodate one guest. When the reality was, Jake Shields asked us to have him on and I said, yeah, we'll get banned if we do that. But if we do it as a debate, it'll work. And then we actually thought it would be the biggest show ever if Laura Loomer came on, because she's Jewish and very pro-Israel. She was unable to do it, but we all agreed. And the sponsors we reached out to were super excited for it. There are companies that wanted

to get on board with it. And we basically talked to a bunch of different platforms. Everyone said it was a great idea, totally fine to host on YouTube with no issues. And then we were like, okay, we got to find somebody else. And then the, all the, anybody else we could find were things that weren't really a big show. It would be like to accommodate Nick and Jake, we would find someone with 15,000 followers who would do it because the other people who challenged them to a debate, who we reached out to were like, they backed out and they didn't want to do it. And then Jake texts me and, or whatever. And I'm like dealing with running a company with the 50 plus employees or whatever and hosting two shows.

I don't get back to him because I don't typically handle booking. And then he lost it because we didn't book him right away. So it's like, why don't we host Nick on the website? That's like saying, how about we host a special episode members only on the website that we could do? Because otherwise it's like we have to pay the bandwidth costs and all this stuff. And like, sure, I guess. But I don't do that for anybody.

Just so he can be racist on the internet, too. I mean, he's allowed to be if he wants to have a debate or a conversation. It's fine, but it's like... But it's like, why don't you accommodate Nick more than you've accommodated any guest you've ever had on the show? And it's like, well, I mean, we got Nick, Milo, and Ye a private jet from LA to DC. Because last time you walked out on us, dude. I don't care that you walked out on us. I respect that he's in the position where Ye is going to walk out.

But I'll just say this publicly, and nobody knows this, but it was $100,000 to bring him on in the first place with Ye and Milo. Because we cover all travel accommodations for all our guests. And when they're like, we're going to do this big show, we're running this campaign. It's one of the biggest things ever. I was like, guys, you tell us what your travel costs are going to be from LA to DC and how we make this happen. And it's not an issue of us being like, we're going to spend any amount because we love Ye. It's the only way we can make this really is if like we get, we get a direct flight on our own time. And I said, we're gonna have to book private if that's the only way we can make this really is if like we get, we get a direct flight on our own time.

And I said, we're going to have to book private if that's the case. And it was like 80 something, I think round trip on this jet. And that's one of the reasons we know that it was staged because they left on a different jet that night. And it's like, okay,

dude, like we booked a PJ for these guys. So when he's talking about, I can get a PJ and get out of here. I'm like, what are you talking? Like what? We even,

we, we, we rented him a house. So it'm like, what are you talking about? Like what? We rented him a house. So it's like, why would you accommodate Nick Fuentes? Ask him about the $100,000 private jet we got on the fly here. And then he walked out on the show because he was working for EA at the time. Like, dude, we bend over backwards

to accommodate things that people don't normally want to accommodate. Like when Jake said he wants to come on the show with Nick, I said, okay, we can't do it because we'll get banned. But here's how we can figure it out if we can do it like a debate. And then he just like, here's what happens. We bring Nick on with Ye, Ye storms off. I get it. Nick's not going to stick around for that, but that was expensive to pull off.

Then when it comes to Jake, he's like, I want to come out with Nick again. I was like, okay, we're going to try again because we know many people, like look what we did with Alex Jones. Alex Jones gets like nuked from everywhere. We have him on the show with Michael Malice and then YouTube deletes the episode. So what did I do? I immediately called up Michael and Alex again and said, come back on the show and let's do it again. They took down the first episode. Let's say they take down the second episode. By the way, three years later, they did. They took it down. So we're booking yay Milo and Nick. And they're like, we will come on your show. And this is mostly like, yay. And it's like, yeah, but I'm busy. I got, I got to fly. If I'm going to fly it, I'm not going to like, here's how it works. I can't

explain what their schedule is. I can explain what my schedule is. I work Monday morning to Friday evening. It's two different shows, the morning show and the nightly show. So I get hit up by like value attainment, PBD, cool guys. I'm a big fan. And he says, can you come on the show Saturday? I'm like, I can't fly commercial because that would mean waking up. I go to, I go to bed after the show on Friday. It's it wraps at 10. And then if I go home and I go to bed, I can maybe catch a flight at 6 a.m., be in Miami by like 3 or 4 if we're lucky, and then maybe do a show in the evening and then catch a flight Sunday morning to fly back home and then have to work all over again.

I'm like, bro, that's too brutal. But if after the show on Friday, I get a private jet, which from DC to Miami round trip is usually between $20,000 and $30,000, we can make something like that happen. That's why you need a PJ. So when it comes to someone like Ye, who's doing all of this ridiculous flying around and he's in LA, typically it's why, okay, well, the only way we can make it happen is if we have a plane waiting for us and we run into it, fly there, come on the show, wake up, get on

the plane and fly back. And I'm like, we'll make that happen. But that's not enough for Nick Fuentes. That's not enough for him. We have to also just bend and capitulate to every whim, create a special show on the website, something we've never done. Oh, spare me, dude. It is impossible to deal with these guys. The Authentic Hydro PX says, Tim, please get some culture war episode set up related to the Groypers. Destiny is a good option since he likes going after Groypers like Nick. Yeah, we didn't want to do just Destiny because it's been done. What I really wanted was an actual like historian, pro-Israel, maybe even pro-Zionist who was going to sit down and actually

have real facts and have a real debate with Nick Fuentes. Jake Shields is ancillary to it. He was organizing it. And we couldn't get anybody. There are personalities and political commentators who are like, I'll do it. And I'm like, yeah, look, man, with all due respect, I don't mean to be mean to smaller personalities, but of course they will. Of course, somebody who doesn't have a big following will come on a show with a million plus subscribers to debate Nick Fuentes on this issue, which will get a million plus views.

I even told Jake, I'm like, if we get this right and we get like a real Zionist and pro-Israel personality to like debate you, we're talking like 5 million hits. It'll be like the biggest podcast in a long time. He's like, I completely agree. We couldn't pull it off. So, you know, there you go, man. Transparency is transparency can be. Let's grab a couple more super chats here. Where are we at? YouTube's going. I'm not your buddy guy. Whoa.

Hello. He's back. He says Trump didn't do it. Stormy saying Trump said she reminded him of his daughter before they did clearly shows the White House is directing this. Oh, interesting. oh interesting brewmaster monk says jay dyer asked him to host a debate between you and adam green on the culture war podcast who's that uh i mean i the thing with adam green is that uh it's an individual who's done several sort of uh debates with lesser known figures that uh in those debates i think he's demonstrated that there's not really much familiarity with basic philosophical concepts, fallacies, argumentation.

So I don't think that would be a very fruitful debate. Well, there you go. Let's go. We'll grab a couple more here. And where are we at? Maybe we can get like one more good one. YouTube's really laggy vinyl says hey tim i'm making a pokemon like video game set in the old west opposes is going to be a story of freedom from multiple viewpoints without being woke trash it

can be wish listed on steam uh or or found on my channel well good luck sir with your video game freedom stacker last one says i got a bill from the irs for 182 dollars no idea why but like you said i'm gonna pay it i don't have a tax attorney on retainer because it's too expensive for you to fight now for me running a company if we got a tax bill we just send it to our accountant and lawyer and they say we'll figure it out and then it either gets negotiated down or we figure out where it came from. And we realized that it was already paid. We actually had one issue where we got a tax bill, gave it to our tax attorney. Was it a tax attorney? And they were just like, this is a mistake. Contacted the office, sent in a letter, and then it was gone. They were like, it was an error. And we found out where the

error was. It was actually our fault. We caught it. And then we told them like, hey, guys, here's the receipt. This was a mistake. And they went, ah, OK, don't worry about it. And then it was something like that. I don't know all the nitty gritty. But that was the gist of it. But the IRS is coming for you, exactly as described. So smash that like button.

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