Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1021 RFK Jr Had Worm EAT HIS BRAIN Then DIE, Says He Will Eat MORE Brain Worms, This Is Not A Joke w/ Chadwick Moore

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge are joined by Chadwick Moore to discuss RFK Jr admitting he had a brain worm eat part of his brain and a special discussion on why Timcast IRL #1021 was shut down. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So there's really big news with Israel invading Rafah in defiance of U.S. foreign policy under Joe Biden. And Joe Biden has vowed to suspend military aid to Israel if they do invade Rafah. Well, they did. Now, Biden's already suspended large portions of congressionally approved aid, which, according to like every Democrat and some weird rhino Republicans, it's illegal. It's actually illegal. You cannot withhold congressionally approved aid to foreign countries because when Donald Trump withheld aid to Ukraine, he was impeached for it. And now Joe Biden is in clear defiance. And yeah, obviously he's not going to be impeached. So we will talk about that. However,

you know, as we were sitting here trying to figure out what the good lead was, I mentioned that RFK Jr. had a worm eat part of his brain and die. And that's true. Actually happened. So the big breaking story today about RFK Jr. is that he was suffering cognitive issues 12 years ago and he was having short-term and long-term memory issues.

They went to the doctor and it turns out there was a worm in his brain. It was eating his brain and it died. That actually happened. And today, RFK Jr. offered to eat five more brain-eating worms. This is not a joke. RFK Jr. tweeted that he will

eat more brain-eating worms and then debate Trump and Biden because he thinks it won't matter. Which is a funny joke. I really don't think he's going to eat any more brain worms. But it is not a joke. The man literally had think he's going to eat any more brain worms, but it is not a joke. The man literally had a dead worm in his brain, eating his brain.

So I suppose, considering how weird it is, we'll talk about that. And then Donald Trump, of course, says, what did he say? Give me liberty or give me death over these gag orders. So I don't know if they're really going to try and lock him up. And then, I mean, there's big news. Marjorie Taylor Greene tried to oust the Speaker of the House, and it failed.

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Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Chadwick Moore. Hey, great to be back with you guys. Who are you? What do you do? I'm a journalist. I write for The Spectator. I also publish on chadwickmoore.com. And I most recently wrote Tucker Carlson's biography,

which is just called Tucker. You can find it at Amazon, wherever you get your books, or tuckerthebook.com for more information. And I started working on this long before he got canceled from Fox and just wanted to sort of tell his life story and who he is as a dude and spent tons of time with him.

I used to be on his show. I used to be on Fox News, lots of shows, but I was canceled from Fox after I wrote the book, which is nothing lost there too much. So that's a little bit about me. Cool. Thanks for hanging out. Ian is back.

Hello, Tim. Welcome, everyone. Hi, Anna Claire. Oh, I spoiled that you're going to be on the show, too. Hi. They know. They know. So what happened was Ian finally found the studio.

I finally found God. I'll tell you what. I'm on this recent quest of my spirit quest. I smoked DMT for the first time. I vaped it actually. And it was impressive to say the least. I would love to tell you all about it at some point, maybe tonight on the show.

If the conversation goes in that direction, maybe on the after show. So call in, I would love to hear you and hear from you. And I do believe Trump is right. We do need unity right now because no matter who wins in the presidency, we need unity. And I think this is gonna please a lot of people. Ian said before the show,

he started finally reading the Bible. Yes, I read the first six chapters of Matthew. It's fascinating. I have more to say on that. So maybe we'll get into that too tonight. We already kind of talked about it a little bit. Yeah, Hannah Clare's hanging out. I'm here. I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. I'm a writer for scnr.com. That's Scanner News. I'm glad to be here tonight. Hi, Serge. Hello. Hi, guys. Hope you're doing well. Let's get started. All right. Let's jump into, we're going to start off with the disturbing but fun story. RFK Jr. says a worm ate part of his brain and then died inside his head. How are you guys doing? I mean, I think it's badass that the worm died. That's like a Chuck Norris story.

Yeah, right? You try and feast on me. This is what you get, you son of a bitch the worm died yeah yeah what is the actual chuck norris oh yeah yeah uh chuck nor chuck norris was bitten by a rattlesnake and after three grueling days the rattlesnake died yeah that's the joke yeah yeah i i love the chuck norris joke era yeah maybe we can make more for rfk if he's such a badass like i, I want to know, how did he get the worm? So I got questions. He also had mercury poisoning from eating too much fish. Oh.

Yo, this is weird. Was it the mercury that killed the worm? I mean, what if it was? Interesting. The best case for mercury poisoning kills brain worms. I wonder about that same thing with, like, COVID. Like, is that going to kill the aliens when they come? Right, yeah.

The ones that are trying to get us? Is that our immune response to them? The real conspiracy is that they made COVID in the lab to stop the aliens and now the aliens can't land on Earth. Right. Does RFK, he's like an adventurer. So he's out there swimming deep, diving. So you get some worm from excessive adventure

or was it the fish? He needs ivermectin. It's dewormer. That's a good idea. There you go. Potential yeah that cures river blindness but you got to talk to your doctor about what's right for you i really like this rfk guy i mean he's okay you know i think he's so honest i don't i don't see him as being honest really yeah no i mean his his his platform is vague like what what are his policy positions i don't know. Exactly. He was for

gun control a little while ago. Now he's been like, well, we got a second amendment. Then he was like, what, six months ago, he was like, I don't think we should ban child sex change surgery. Now he's tweeting, I think we should. I don't know what the guy is actually for, to be honest. I can respect his opposition to COVID mandate policy. That's based, but I don't know much else about him. And like, what do you get with joe biden you know he's a crackpot old buffoon who just when we have this clip and we will roll it soon he he's reading the prompter and he says there's a guy named riley last name he actually because he's reading the prompter and it's just like the guy's ron burgundy and then with donald

trump certainly an imperfect gentleman but look at his foreign policy. Look at the economy under his first term. It's a no-brainer. Well, I think I'm going to vote Libertarian because if Clint Russell's really going to be on the ticket, I'm voting Libertarian. Clint's cool. I like Recktenwald. I don't know that I would... Recktenwald's not my choice. If it was Dave Smith, I'd

consider it. 100%. Because Dave Smith, I just... With all due respect to Michael Rechtenwald, like Dave Smith is a good, a good guy, good candidate, knowledgeable. I just think he'd do a much better job. I don't really see a point for the most part in voting libertarian, especially what's interesting is RFK and Trump are expected, I believe they're going to be speaking at the Libertarian Party Convention to try and win over libertarian voters. But let me read a little bit about this brain this brain slug thing, because, you know, part of me is wondering maybe the worm is taking over your brain.

Here's what I love. They call him an anti-vaccine activist, which is just like a lie. You know, it's more and more intense every time. Like he's an anti-vaxxer. He talked about not like vaccine. Now he's an activist. Now he leads the whole world movement against vaccine but yeah it's right anti-vaccine activists turned independent presidential candidate okay let me tell you about rf rfk's position on on the vaccine he said vaccines are great i don't think they should be mandated like that was the gist of it yeah and that's not anti-vaccine so uh i think he was critical of covet vaccines having to do with how they were rolled out. But they call him an anti-vaccine activist.

This is what they do to everybody. It's like, you can come out and say, I've gotten 12 vaccines. I think vaccines are all wonderful. Maybe we should get a little more due diligence on this COVID one. And they go, you hate vaccines. So now they smear him that way. But they say that he reportedly said he began to experience cognitive problems in 2010. And then in 2012, his deposition showed

he had initially feared he too had a brain tumor in the record of his 2012 deposition. This was like a, what was it, a divorce? What was this? Yeah, his divorce proceedings. And then it turns out

they found a dark spot on his brain. He got a second opinion and it was caused by a worm that got into my brain and ate a portion of it and then died. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, what if I were to tell you that RFK Jr.

has offered to eat more brain worms? Would you say, surely, Tim, you jest. I do not. I do not jest. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says, I offer to eat five more brain worms and still beat President Trump and President Biden in debate. I feel confident of the result, even with a six-worm handicap. Okay, that was good.

That was good. And I got Alex Brusiewicz. He tweeted, you're a nutcase. I get it, Alex, because Brusiewicz is like one of the best political marketing social media strategy guys. But this one's a slip up you can't fight humor with an insult like this did rfk just troll brucewitz do we just find a better troll than brucewitz and it's rfk i mean i feel like that's a little premature one good tweet does not you know replace it replace a title holder and i wouldn't say he trolled brucewitz i

would say you know brucewitz takes it very seriously that uh you know, Alex, of course, has been on the show several times, X Strategies and things like that. I think he might run for Congress, but very loyal to Trump and the Trump Republicans, the MAGA Republicans. And so he's very effective what he does. I just want to point this out. When I saw this, you're a nutcase. You can't go after RFK in that way. When he says I offered to eat five more brain worms, we all know he's joking. I think the appropriate pushback would be like, if I was Bruce Witz, I would have responded with, this was pretty good, but man, that's very serious that you have part of your brain eaten. Focus on the fact that RFK had part of his brain eaten.

Don't just call him a nutcase because that doesn't take away the joke he made. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's funny because the Hill was reporting day. One of the big issues facing the election is like if Biden or Trump were to have a major health issue because they're arguing, you know, they're both older, they're prone to more serious health risks than younger Americans. And now RFK, you know, who for a little while people were like, look, he's so fit and he does all this working out. Now he's also like, oh, I have a very serious medical history, too. Like, hope he's fine. That's great. His campaign said that he got the worm from traveling in Africa, Southeast Asia and South

America during his environmental advocacy work. So, you know, hypothetically, he's saying I'm not at risk for a relapse in brain worms, although he is volunteering to eat them. It's just it's a whole ticket or, you know, with the third party candidates, we're not offering a lot of healthy, strong men, it seems like. I mean, I don't think Donald Trump is nearly as health at the level of health risk that Joe Biden is. But I've never considered a presidential candidate with a history of brain worms. I know that is crazy. There was a story that I think came out about an hour ago.

It was supposed to at least, and you guys might have to look it up, that there was a bunch of conservative, pretty pro-Trump influencers who were being paid by either RFK or someone close to him to be pushing him over Trump to get people over. I don't know if someone can find that right now. What was it about, basically? It was about, I think one of the guy's names was Zach. I just heard this actually right before we came on, that it was going to come out,

or maybe it just came out right before that. But it was about RFK. It was someone paying pretty conservative online influencers to go after Trump and to say that they're ditching Trump for RFK to try to win those swing votes. See, I think this is just sort of a misdirection. The fact that his entire family came out and was like, he should drop out because he's hurting the election and they're all Democrats. We know who who RFK is sort of pulling voters from. And it's it's, you know, maybe there are some conservatives or maybe some more independent leading, you know, people who would occasionally vote Republican. But it's obviously the Democratic base that is now looking at Biden being like, I don't think I like you. I've even heard some in interviews be like, well, Colonel what?

What is Colonel West? He is. He's looking better and better every day. I mean, Alan West, Cornell. Thank you. I just can't take the far left. I don't know if would RFK take the far left. I mean, the people who really like the Gaza protesters, like they'll go to Cornel West or someone. Yeah, but I don't know if they would go to.

I think they're trying to make sure that moderate independents don't go Trump. So right now, unregistered voters are leaning towards Trump. You register a voter higher, higher likelihood they're going to vote for Trump. With independent voters, Republicans typically as a party are smaller than Democrats. So Republicans rely heavily on independents. This is why Scott Pressler's work has been so massive, because now he's flipping the Republicans typically as a party are smaller than Democrats. So Republicans rely heavily on independence. This is why Scott Pressler's work has been so massive because now he's flipping the script. The Republican Party is outsizing the Democrat Party in many of these places, which typically means you're going to get more Republican votes.

I think RFK Jr., strong possibility, he is the shadow campaign. Yeah, that's an interesting concept. So what he serves as for the Democrats, his whole family, they're all Democrats and like, oh, he's bad to make it. They want an anti-establishment middle of the road guy to capture as many independents as possible, hoping that Democrats can ballot harvest the rest. And then what happens is Kennedy may pull more from Biden among independents. That's true. But Democrats are relying on ballot harvesting, so they don't care if they lose the independents so long as Trump loses them too. And the ballot harvesting

pushes them over the finish line. We talk on the best political show with Luke Rutkowski, Clint Russell, and Stephanie Marie. We talked a lot about this, the vaccine mandates like Trump and how we need to see RFK and Trump debate,

because like I saw as I was driving up here, I saw a big billboard that says make America great again. And I was like, huh, make America great again again. Is that what we did in 2020 when we rushed this vaccine to market and forced, not

forced, but encouraged greatly at the threat of people losing their jobs, people to take it. That wasn't great. So your criticisms are like Governor Wolf and Cuomo. We need a president that's not going to let that happen. take it like that wasn't great in my opinion that was criticisms are like governor wolf and like or like a president like we need a president that's not going to let that happen and i don't see how would the president stop that from happening well they first they don't rush it they don't take credit for uh a program called like warp speed what's wrong with warp speed they pushed a vaccine

that was untested to market so you're supposed to test them for like five so it hurt people a lot of people like this astrazeneca one just got recalled. That wasn't ever in the United States. Thank God. And the issue is if a medicine is available to the public and the public has a choice, who cares? Well, they didn't really have a choice. That was the problem is that businesses were mandating it. So your complaint is with Democrat governors and many Republican governors

who eventually pulled off of it. This is this narrative that Luke loves to push because he just, i i gotta bet as much as i i i luke's a good friend i feel like he's only saying this to try and keep up his libertarian bonafide no i don't think it's just the governors though they although a lot of it is on the states the president is the moral leader of the nation and if the president's going to give a green light to a bunch of vaccines that are rushed out then the governors are very much more likely going to go for that that's an excuse excuse. I don't think so, man. You need a president that is vocal about the dangers of rushed vaccines.

But OK, you're talking about two totally different things. And this is again, it's like, first of all, whether or not something is approved or disapproved or safe or otherwise has nothing to do whether it's rushed or not. Although Rush does confer, there may be a greater risk because we're hoping that when we're bringing a medicine to market, it's been tested thoroughly and effectively. Donald Trump approving medical research has nothing to do with Cuomo putting COVID patients in nursing homes and shutting down churches and forcefully mandating people to take a medication. It has nothing to do with Newsom not wearing a mask while mandating masks.

And then Trump comes out and says, I think it's wrong, but I can't do anything under the 9th and 10th Amendment. The governors have full authority. Then red state governor said, we are not going to do this. We're backing off of this. If he hadn't rushed it, then there wouldn't have been a medicine to mandate. That doesn't, that, that, that, look, this is again, making an excuse in my opinion, whether or not medicine gets rushed.

Name three other medicines that have been brought to market in a quick in a quick speed. It's not that common. Well, the only issue you're concerned about is that the government of blue states mandated it. Right. Well, I'm also concerned about warp speed that Trump's still taking credit for it. It's nauseating. And he should. I mean, do you think it was a good thing? Yes. You think that running that out was a warping that out was a great thing? One hundred percent. I think that a president facing a pandemic saying we should fund medical research is a good thing? Yes. You think that running that out was a working that out was a great thing? 100%. I think that a president facing a pandemic saying we should fund medical research is a good thing. Well, I think people then have the choice whether or not they want to participate in

a vaccine that was brought to market through something called Warp Speed. But they didn't fund the research. They funded it like zapping it out into the public. So if your concern is that blue states gave guaranteed contracts to Big Pharma, you're talking about something different and blaming Trump when all Trump did was take credit for a program to fund medical research. It was, but it was fast paced. It was warped medical research. It was like advanced speed. It was faster than it should have been in my opinion. And all that really matters is if someone comes to me and says, I just took a dump in a grocery

bag. Do you want to eat it? I say no. And then if a governor comes out and says, do it or else, then we've got a problem. Yeah. And why did who dumped in the beginning? It was Trump. Trump authorizing Fauci to push this stuff out. He stood behind Fauci, gave Fauci the pulpit. It was disgusting. It's an excuse. It's people making excuse to hate Trump because they have Trump deranged. I don't hate Trump at all. Whether or not Trump funded research during a pandemic has nothing to do with whether or not a governor forced you to take a medicine. I don't I don't know if he was funding. It's not just about funding research. It's not that general. I'm not complaining that it's not a bad thing to fund research.

I'm open to funding research if it's done right. But it wasn't done right. It was done way too fast. That's why they called it warp speed is because it was super quick. What does that have to do with people being forced to take a medication? Well, there was a medication that was untested that was now on the market. And people had the opportunity to force it because it was on the market. was tested we just don't lightly you just don't like the test was the the injections of the masses essentially it was tested before this you just don't like it i mean yeah i don't

like the way it was tested you're right and and ultimately when it what it came down to is in red states like with the santas you went to your doctor and your doctor gave you advice. And I think that's totally fine. And if you went to your doctor, your doctor said, yay, nay or otherwise, there was no problem in Florida. And then there was California, where if you were disabled, if you suffered from Guillain-Barre syndrome, it didn't matter. That is unconstitutional. That is illegal. And that's what people are actually upset about. I don't care if Donald Trump says he wants to fund like the bigger complaint I would have is that when it comes to the libertarian argument to fake

pretend to be mad at donald trump they go oh we had all of these things happening i'm like you're talking about mandates you're talking about uh you're talking about new york you're talking about new jersey you're talking about philadelphia you're talking about california you're talking about oregon you're talking about washington uh washington you're talking about illinois you're talking about minnesota you're not talking about south dakota you're not talking about Florida. You're not talking about Texas. If the states were doing something unconstitutional, then shouldn't the president have an authority to say, hey, you can't do that. No, ninth and 10th amendment. The powers of the states are unto the states. So, like, this is my thing. If you want to say, I don't think for, like, I don't

think the government should be funding this medical research at all. Good argument. Fine, whatever. You're allowed to believe that. I don't think it was right for Barack Obama to try and fund Solyndra. Like, we shouldn't be putting our money into that kind of research and stuff. Okay. Like, I don't completely agree, although I do understand the argument of taxation, theft, and all of that stuff. I actually don't have a big problem with some government spending and efforts to, like, try and solve some problems. But I do think the government overspends and screws everything up. But again, it ultimately comes down to if your concern is people were forced to take a medicine, it has nothing to do with whether or not Trump funded it. But he rushed it. The medicine wouldn't have been there to be forced if he hadn't rushed

it out. So what? So if he if a president was there, it was like, we're not going to rush some medicines out. We're going to look at this. We're going to take our time. We're going to figure this out. Then there wouldn't have been a medicine to're going to figure this out then there wouldn't have been a medicine to force so what so then there wouldn't have been mandates because there would have been nothing to mandate that that has nothing to do with you being mandated he offered something that was then mandated like he offered it and he's taking credit still for it and even though there's all this he's not taking credit for the mandates no he's taking credit for the medicine rushing the medicine out and he and he should he said at his, you shouldn't be forced to take it.

And, you know, he mentioned, you know, I got this medicine. Like, if you don't like what big pharma does, say, I don't like what big pharma does. That's great. If you say, I don't like these big pharmaceutical corporations, they overcharge for their medicines. And Trump funding them just empowers them in bad ways. There we go. Agreed. Howdy, everybody. Well, I'll just tell we'll just we'll be as transparent as possible. There's a lot of stuff going on. Some things I can't talk about for legal reasons. Many of you know that we're being sued. I can't talk about it. I'm not legally allowed to. During the show, the show obviously can't be on YouTube because Ian said people have died from the vaccine and Hannah Clare followed up with the vaccine wasn't safe. Yeah, very clearly,

specifically, I'm not saying vaccines kill people. Vaccines are bad. But in this instance, I was saying these COVID vaccines have, I'd have to review the tape, killed people, but they caused side effects in people that have killed them. And Tim's like, where's the fucking proof? Show me the fucking proof. You can't say that shit on YouTube.

That's my bad. I thought I was being specific enough, but it's such a fucking thin hole to try and fit this thing through. Yeah, and I meant to just say that because the research felt like it was rushed, people feel as though the vaccine might not be safe. I didn't mean that the vaccines themselves are not safe. I'm not commenting on that.

I'm commenting on the rate of research. So I'm really sorry. We have a chat here from Rach says, I'm totally okay when Tim has to pull the stream. What I don't like is that none of you guys at Timcast tell us anything anywhere else. Well, we do the uncensored show as fast as we can and then talk about it. There's two big problems. One, guys, I'll be completely honest. If the show got banned right now, it'd be a huge weight off my shoulders. I don't make money from the show. It's really stressful. I work 16 hour days. I could work eight hour days and then skate the rest of the day and still be rich.

And this is extremely difficult. People get mad that we don't tell them all the details. Why? We can still get a strike. We can get a strike right now, even though the show has been deleted. Doesn't matter. I can get a call right now from Google and says, we don't care what you did. We're banning you. And so I'm desperately struggling to navigate censorship waters. So a show can exist that will have a positive outcome that resists things like vaccine mandates, rushed vaccines, whatever your argument is. It can help push back against things like open borders, the dissolution of our community and kids getting their balls chopped off. But you can't just do that by being an ogre-ish retard who runs full

speed at YouTube's gates, screaming, fuck you, fuck you over and over again. See, I explained this to the Occupy people a long time ago. I was like, you guys, you're basically a bunch of like rabble militia storming the emperor's fortress and his samurai are chopping you down. You must be like the noble ninja and dress up like a water bearer, bow your head and sneak in slowly through the back window. And then you dispatch of the emperor when no one pays attention. But people demand that you fuck yourself over and destroy it because they don't understand. I respect it. I get it. It's very frustrating to not understand exactly what's

going on. And there's not, that's not what we can do. We've explained it a while ago. If a show gets pulled off YouTube, and then we immediately go on the after show or the uncensored show and say, hey, we got banned because someone said, you know, the N word or something. Then what happens is Antifa goes to YouTube and says, Timcast IRL just did X, and then YouTube gives us a strike. Then the show gets suspended for seven days, which strips us of our revenue for the month, and the show already operates at relatively thin margins. We could fire a show to people. We've gone over the budget, but it doesn't ultimately make sense to do that. So the reality is Tim cast IRL just makes enough money primarily with membership. We've been talking with rumble and I've talked a little, uh, I've had some, I, I, I, I, I'm ready to say this. I've sent me on a few messages

and he's responded. I don't want to act like there's anything there. I've been talking with Rumble quite a bit about a deal. None of them have a deal that's viable. If we stop on YouTube and we do not get the YouTube ad revenue, the show can't exist. It can be stripped, stripped way down. We can eliminate huge portions of the company and fire a bunch of people and operate on a bare bones in a bare bones way, probably doing like zoom stuff. The, the flying guests out is, is, is really expensive. It can

be like tens of thousands of dollars. We, that's why often you'll see, you know, we have like DC commentators because it keeps the budget down. So it's a, it's expensive. And, um, we're trying to expand in meaningful ways, which means our budget gets strained. Or we could simply stop everything, focus just on doing the show, and then we have a minor surplus to try and build up money. But then we also want to do like marketing and we want the show to succeed and grow and have a positive impact. It is very difficult.

So what happens today is, here's what I try to do before the show. We usually say two things, no illusions to violence and don't say vaccines, kill people. Those are the things that YouTube will instantly ban you for nothing we can do about it. Michael Jones, Michael Jones, Michael, Michael Malice, Alex Jones episode from three years ago, just got taken down. And the reason they said it got taken down is because someone said that mRNA vaccines send a signal to your cells, which reprogram the DNA so that it will produce spike proteins. Sorry, it was mRNA. It was the RNA that gets changed, not the DNA. And for that minor error, they deleted the episode. If you do it again, they said, we are we're going to we're going to shut you down to say

on the show that people have died from the vaccine. The vaccines aren't safe. The vaccines cause harm. All that stuff was like probably seven permabands in the span of 10 minutes. So here are our options. We've got people screaming in chat saying, stop being a pussy and just do it. I'm like, oh, dude, okay. I'll tell you what.

Fine. We'll get instantly banned. The show will not exist on YouTube ever again. Rumble can't afford to make the show operate. There's no interest from anyone else to make the show operate. Fingers crossed that if we do get banned, the iTunes and Spotify version of the show pick up. That could be cool. And then we fire half the company and just go back to running IRL as it is and, you know, just shrink everything down. My projection, if that's the case,

is that what will happen is every month we'll operate at a small loss until eventually we can't operate the show anymore and the show ceases to exist. So it really doesn't make sense to do it that way. In the current iteration, we have a marginal net positive every month, which we then allocate towards some kind of expansion or project. Now, for most of the stuff we're doing outside of IRL, it is money that is separate from IRL itself. IRL is extremely expensive. And I would say that what makes us the most money is the memberships. Then we do probably like 1.5 million on the show on YouTube and ads.

Rumble can't accommodate that. And without that, we're at a net negative. The memberships don't cover the total cost of travel, accommodation, staff, et cetera. Not to mention one of the biggest challenges and taxes don't give me like taxes are huge. And then the one challenge we have too is inflation and employee costs. So every year with this nightmarish bite inflation, we have employees who are like, it's getting harder and harder. I need more money. And it's like, well, we have to increase the cost of memberships then. If we do that, we could lose members. If we lose members, we might put ourselves in at loss. So all we can delete the episode, shut it down, and that's it. Then people get mad and there's nothing we can really do about it. That's the general position we're in right now. the lawsuits, dealing with the issue of censorship, the threat to revenue streams,

and the difficulties in expansion and the overall mission, I'd say it'd be a lot easier for me just to do a morning show and stop working 16-hour days because the YouTube revenue for my morning show pays my salary. I get a salary. My morning show pays my salary. I get a salary. My morning show covers that salary plus a little bit extra. That little bit extra just goes back into the company. Last year there was profit from the company and that does roll over to me. I don't, I thought that's not the case, but you know, these past few months, I think last

month we were at a hundred thousand dollar net loss. You know, these things happen. And then we look for, in other months, we're like, we're going to be a little bit more lean here. And then we're going to, you know, cut costs here. And then some months we'll see a really great surplus. We'll see like one month might be minus 100, because let's say we booked two or three people from Europe and it's $7,000 round trip if we want to have them on the show. And we do. And then some months we'll be like, let's see if we can get some more like DC commentators so we can get a month with like, you know, cheaper costs. And then it's like $100, $200 instead of $7,000 or $8,000.

So, you know, that's basically where we're at. And this is why the show gets taken down. And yeah, so I don't know. Whatever you guys think. I wish that doing the best show, the most entertaining show, equaled money. That's what I want. I just, that's not how reality works.

I think it's hard because, you know, I'm incredibly grateful for TimCast as a company because it really changed the direction of my professional career, and it's very challenging to be in a position where the rules are such that you have to be very careful, but also surrounded by people who are really intellectually engaged and that debate can get away from themselves. You know, it's always been the case that Tim works incredibly hard. And so it's definitely a challenging position, I think, for all of us to be in where, you know, a lot of a lot of everything we do rides on the back of Tim's success.

And so following finding that line between like I'm an employee here and I'm working really hard, but also guarding the company like it was your own that you were starting yourself. It's it's really challenging. And, you know, I hate when the show gets pulled because, and especially tonight when, you know, if anything I said was like misconstrued, you know, because I think it means a lot to so many people and because I've been here for the last three years and we're so close to everybody on staff. And yeah, it's definitely, it's not fun when this happens. Apologies to Chadwick, who has been an amazing guest

and literally was not involved in Ian and I's debate and has just been patiently sitting here. So I apologize. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I'm happy to be here. Chadwick's like, next book, here we go. From the company business perspective,

I've always told myself, do not get in the way of the leader. Do not get in the way of the guy who's charging ahead with putting everything he's got into it. Don't fuck it up. Don't trip him up with like, hey man, chill. But as a friend, Tim, I want you to be happy and healthy. And if you need to take space, take space. So the question is, you know, I've talked to people before. I've had conversations with some high profile people a year ago. And I said, I should, I even tweeted like I should, I should shut down IRL.

Should absolutely shut it down. I don't make money from it. When IRL launched, it shifted the views from my personal podcast, my monologue, which was, I think it peaked at the 35 biggest podcast in the world in the top 100. It split the views between the two and removed both from the top podcast lists. So now the audience is split between these two shows. And so it doesn't matter. It just means that I didn't make more money by doing it. I just made more work for myself by doing it. Timcast IRL has more people on it, other guests, and has helped people launch companies and sell books and do things like that. And, you know, I've been told by people, oh, you'll be so bored if you don't do, if you stop doing IRL. And I'm like, yeah, I could still do my morning show. In fact, I could, you know, what I was doing before was

six segments per day. I was doing two and a half hours of monologue content. Adding three hours of dialogue content to my now hour 20 of monologue content is really difficult. And I'm making the same amount of money, but hiring a bunch of people to run a show. And I don't know, there's a lot of people who are like, no, you can't like the show is so important. And I'm like, you know what, man, you know, what's the easiest thing in the world for me is I do a morning show and I have half the day off like every other human being. And I have, I don't have to worry about people coming in here and shitting on the floor. If I do, if I do a monologue show, I know exactly what, what, what, what, what are the parameters of YouTube that allow me, like what, what they allow me to say and do. So I can reach the same amount of people.

I was, I was, the audience size has, it's in flux. Some people stop watching, some people start watching, but the total amount of views that I have ever gotten is the same with or without Timcast IRL. When we launched Timcast IRL, half the views started splitting over to Timcast IRL from the Tim Pool Daily Show and from my main channel. So yeah, the upside is there's more people on the show and the views are like being dispersed amongst like Chadwick and the guests and everybody. And the idea was to build something, something that was bigger, would have more shows. We'd make pop culture crisis. We had tales from Inverted World, and those things can start to build up on their own as the revenue from TimCast pushes out into them.

If we want to, like, ultimately it comes down to this. The show can't exist if we get banned. If we get suspended for a week, we're fucked. Even one week. So that's why episodes get taken down. And you can still get a strike even if they are taken down. With the, I don't know, this is like the fourth lawsuit we've been involved in over things that I had nothing to do with

that aren't my fault. And I'm just constantly dealing with it. And it's just like, at a certain point, it's like, why am I dealing with this? I could just do my morning show and have none of this what do you want to do well ideally this the problem is i i'm just kind of done managing people who who don't care and don't pay attention and don't listen right so like ian before every show

we say just don't say vaccines kill people and then you said people have died from the vaccine it's like well dude like we we've had two or three instances and this one of them really pissed me off. You're like, I don't get ad, I don't get mad very often, but sometimes I get mad. We had someone on the show and I said, we can't make allusions to violence. And I was like, and I'm, I'm sorry, man. I'm just frustrated. Cause we had someone on the show like a week ago. And I said like don't make allusions to violence that means like don't say someone should be punched in the face or killed or something like this and like people don't realize that saying things like you gotta hit him back you gotta hit him hard just hit him start hitting him i'm like you you're you're crossing that line and the guest goes okay. And then 20 minutes into the show, they say, kill people.

And I was just like, for the love of all that is fucking holy. We had, look, with all due respect to Jesse Kelly, I'm not trying to drag the guy. I like him. He's a great guy. He said, go kill a human smuggler. You can. It's fine. See if I care.

And the context was that CBP were human smugglers when he said that. And so the show's off the air. And he's like, what? And I was like, Jesse, would you say that on Tucker Carlson's show? Would you go on Tucker Carlson's show and say, go fucking kill somebody? But they come on this show and they just turn off and it happens a lot. For this, my autistic brain is like, don't say vaccines kill people. So don't come in here and be like, no, don't take vaccines. They don't, come in here be like no don't take vaccines they don't they they fucking kill don't take that so i'm like okay don't make these generalizations but this conversation is so important that i'm willing to say this vaccine caused these problems which killed people how many people that i don't know

i'd be willing to look it up i know you know people that have died i know a guy that went to high school with that died after he got the vaccine. He was like, you fucking anti-vaxxers. And then he died. But so in my head, it's like, well, I'm making a specific, I'm not saying vaccines do it. I'm saying this vaccine caused the thing. But it's like, I don't know if the sensors can handle it. And that's putting that stress on you is fucking, it's tearing me up in my gut.

I don't like it. So we navigate this by literally saying, we got a hundred things to say. We can say 99 on YouTube and reach an expanded audience through marketing the algorithm and bringing people who normally don't hear this message to a primetime show where they can hear things like, hey, everything you thought you knew about Trump was a lie.

You don't have to like the guy, but that media report was fake. Hey, guess what? Trump suspends military aid to Ukraine. It's impeached. Biden does it to Israel. Nothing happens. We can say those things.

You can't say vaccines kill people. I personally don't agree that the amount of people who died from the vaccine is beyond the levels that have been reported. It's just that they vaccinated so many people by force. It killed a lot of people. That I think is true. So what does that mean? If you give out

400 million vaccines to 50 million people, don't be surprised when a bunch of them start dying because one of the side effects is myocarditis, blood clotting, pericarditis, Guillain-Barre, et cetera. But that means it's still relative to the side effects listed in the vaccine. But how about this? That will save for the after show where we can have the uncensored after show where we can tell people, would you like to learn more? It's not enough. It doesn't work. People still treat the show as if it's not a primetime show that's under regulation, the same as any other cable show. Like they banned you from Fox News because you wrote about Tucker or something like this.

Yeah. And that's like a shitty ass fucking thing to ban someone for that's bullshit we don't we didn't we didn't even tell uh like the guy who who screamed and smacked the microphone i invited him back right away i just don't fucking break my shit all right the rugged man yeah rugged man i told him come back we'll we'll have the conversation so yeah i don't know man it's it's it's it's constantly brutal and stressful trying to explain like And I don't know, man. It's just the more people you bring on, the harder it is. And here's why every corporation is exactly the way it is. Because the real issue is you cannot run a mom and pop company at a certain level. You know, I was sitting down with Jeremy Boring two years ago and he's like, we're going to give you, we'll give you a bunch of money if you come to the Daily Wire. And I was like, eh, I was like, we make a bunch of money already. We make a lot of money.

And you're like, I'm rich. I don't think you can, you can, you can make the money. And I said, look, we like to do things weird. And he's like, no, no, no, you're right. He's like, I totally understand. That's what we were doing when we had're right. He's like, I totally understand. That's what we were doing when we had 50 employees. He's like, now we have 300 and we can't do that anymore. And he's like, and I think you'll realize that too. And I was like, I know you're right, Jeremy. I'm not stupid.

You're completely right. And I was like, we'll see what happens when I get to that wall, when I get to that point. Because every company goes through it. You get to a certain point where you're like, we want to do things, and we have the opportunity to expand in a positive and meaningful way. Like, we've got a coffee company. The coffee company's doing phenomenally. We're building a

coffee shop. We are fucking burning the midnight oil. And then at a certain point, you go corporate because you have to. You legally have to. At a certain amount of ploys, you have laws requiring you to do things. Then you have insurance requirements. Then you have,

like, there's legal requirements in DEI shit. You have to do. That's why so many companies are doing it. And people like, they don't get it. They say, like,

I love the anti-Semitic people who are like, the Jews are doing it. I'm like, dude, it's like Democrats and Republicans and state senators and legislators pass civil rights laws, which have unintended consequences, which puts legal liability on you. And then you lose in court due to interpretations of laws that weren't supposed to be interpreted ways because leftist activists are winning the culture war. I don't think they're winning the culture war now. But like, so why is it that West Virginia allowed a male to compete against females in shot put?

But West Virginia's based. Why would they do that? Because the Supreme Court ruled that gender identity is sex, as for the 1964 Civil Rights Act. So West Virginia's like, we're bound by court order. Supreme Court already ruled we cannot bar someone for doing this. If we do, we will be sued into oblivion. So we just do what the Supreme Court said we have to do. And the Supreme Court said that, what, like six years ago or whatever? Or five years ago? So you're saying that they they're they put legal things on

corporations when they get over a certain size of employees that's true too but what i'm saying is the supreme court ruled that under the 1964 civil rights act sex protections confers to gender identity that means west virginia cannot bar a male who wants to be a female the supreme court already ruled that it's for the same reason if a church denies a gay wedding, they can get sued because the Supreme Court rulings on these things. So West Virginia then allows a male to compete against females. And everyone's like, oh, I'm so shocked. How is that?

Like the Supreme Court ruled it. Like that's that's got to change. What do we do? Well, Trump certainly got to win the presidency that's the first thing that happens what are our benefits from trump winning the presidency i don't know how many supreme court justices are on the are knocking on death's door i'm worried about uh clarence so that means even like even the like he's the best supreme court justice yeah you certainly can't have biden in the presidency if Clarence Thomas is is finding

himself a weak heart. That's got to be Donald Trump. Then you get people like Luke and Clint because they're libertarians. They have to maintain their bona fides of Trump is bad. Nope. Trump is bad. I'm a libertarian. Trump's bad.

And I'm like, I really don't get this. There's the realist and the idealist. Donald Trump certainly is not a perfect person. You're not going to find a perfect person, but it's the meme where the libertarian's like, I'm gonna vote libertarian and then guns get banned. And it's like, what did you win? You want, you say, I'm gonna set out on a mission

to accomplish a goal. I ask you, what is your goal? And how much of it did you accomplish? And the argument for any libertarians and respectfully to many of them is I don't care. I don't like anything they're doing. And I lose more than I win. I'd be willing to accept the total loss of my right to vote, my right to keep in the voting privilege, my right to keep in bare arms. I would I would gladly be forced to undergo medical procedures because I hate Trump that much. And I say, as long as you admit it, me, I kind of think Trump is making the smart move of going

to the LP convention because he needs to win over libertarians with the argument, guys, Biden will force inject you a shit. Trump didn't do that. And Trump, when he promoted the vaccine, his audience boos him. And then he says, yeah, but I didn't force you to take it. Trump's not perfect. He's bad in a lot of ways, but you'll get to keep your guns. Yeah, I know. Bomb stock Donnie. That's what Luke calls him. And not perfect. But it's like we're at we're at a point right now where we're dealing with an invasion on the southern border, the likes of which this country has never seen foreign policy dumping all of all the money we don't have into Ukraine and now into into Israel.

It's funny, though, you know, Biden is saying is withholding the aid. Trump is saying he's the most pro-Israel president ever. But under his first term, at the very least, Afghan withdrawal. Fuck yes. Let's stop spending billions of dollars in Afghanistan. Syrian withdrawal. Who the fuck knew we were in Syria in the first place and no war in Ukraine? It is insane.

The net positives for Trump are tremendous. Of all the negative things you might get, the net positives outweigh all of it. And yet there are many libertarians who are still just like, for my bona fides, I will say no Trump. I came in here with idealism, for sure. Idealistic energy. Maybe society can't handle it. Maybe, I don't know if the American revolution was an idealistic revolution or if it was a compromise of some sort but like are we hitting a breaking point where it's like yo if we don't go idealistic it's all just gonna slowly die or is it is it compromise i mean because it is a compromise to vote for someone that you got issues with and like i'm saying on the show earlier i'm going to vote libertarian because that's my ideals but like that vote's going to get up maybe 13 of the vote yeah what's his what are his policies i don't i know nothing about him i know clint and i trust clint more than any of these guys

so clint is potentially going to be the vice president yeah so what about the president of the senate do you think clint can do for you as president of the senate what do you think he can he can do for you man i don't i don, what do you think he can do for you? Man, I don't give a fuck about any of these politicians, but none of these guys are going to get anything accomplished. Deep State's going to whack them all. The best thing we can do

is just put somebody likable in there. The reason Afghanistan's over is because of Trump. The reason it got fucked up is because of Biden. But I'm rather satisfied that we're not entrenched in Afghanistan anymore.

The Abraham Accords were pretty based. I mean, Biden's fucking it all up. I like Trump. I do. I like his personality. I've shown my brother the video we did with Donald Trump Jr. What does Michael Rechtenwald do for us as president? I don't even, I know nothing about him.

I mean, a fuera, you know. Just tear up bureaucracy. Yeah, I can count on that. He's not going to win. That's the idealist because i mean deep down when you say that it like it hurts me but i've been told that my whole life don't vote third party it'll never work don't waste your time don't waste your vote so that just keep voting for the other guy or the the lesser of two bureaucrats yeah ron paul was pretty cool

ron paul was pretty good And it is true. You should never vote for someone because the other guy is bad. But what are the libertarians mostly complaining about? And why do they like Ron Paul? And what is what? I mean, I was talking to Dave Smith about this. Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime that didn't start a war. And he actually set timelines for ending these wars. Fuck it. You've got a net positive president. You've got a president who's going to deliver slightly better than evil. And this is why I'm like, I get annoyed by the libertarians who are like, nope. And I'm like, dude, I'm not a Republican.

I don't like the Republican Party. I don't agree with most of their policy positions. But anyone can plainly see that Donald Trump trying to like he restoring jobs in Michigan, threatening tariff on auto manufacturers to bring the auto manufacturing back to the Rust Belt. Every president we've had in the past 30 years has been selling out the American working class to China. Then Trump comes along and says, fuck, no, he cuts the TPP overnight. What do we want, Biden? We want we want transversive partnership. The left and the right populist movements are aligned on most of what Trump is doing. But the leftists are psychopaths. So it's like they're willing to

vote for Joe Biden, who's the corporate elite who's going to shit on the floor, start new wars and destroy the working class and flood the country with noncitizens. And then Gen Z wonders why they can't afford a house. And it's like, OK, so what's what's what are the good things Donald Trump is going to do? Likely withdrawing troops from foreign incursions, which we never voted on in the first place. Huge plus. No new wars. He did not start any in his term. That's a huge plus. Border security. This is the border security guy. Build the wall. Likely we'll begin border security. This is the border security guy. Build the wall likely will begin border security. Point number four is also the mass deportations. This is going to help economically because we have a problem where low skilled jobs are being given to noncitizens plus tax based resources

like housing and and public public transportation and other public services. Trump wants to end those things and likely will schedule F bureaucratic reduction. Trump was trying to do it in his first term. Why didn't he accomplish a lot of things that we did want him to accomplish? He had concrete strapped to his ankles by the deep state as they accused him of being a Russian spy and then impeached him for suspending military aid to Ukraine. What are some of the, uh, so, so we have those things. We can count on strengthening of the middle class tariffs on outsourced jobs, labors and imports, which means that these companies, as Trump said, we're going to put a 30 percent

tax on your car and no one in this country will buy it. So then what happens? They did a three billion dollar investment into Michigan. They brought jobs back. Soon as Biden gets elected, they shut it down and they sent back to Mexico. So Trump likely to secure our border at least better than we're dealing with under Joe Biden, which is a fucking invasion, likely to work with border states to fix this, likely to start going after the blue states that are fucking up all of our laws with their sanctuary policies, mass

deportation. I think the policies are going to be better for the working class in that, like I already mentioned, bringing jobs back and ending wars is going to return a lot of that funding into the United States. And then we don't got to be the people blowing up these four, starting these wars. What does it mean to be getting out of these wars? It means less blowback and less risk of terrorism. CIA called it, called 9-11 blowback. The U.S. operating in the Middle East for as long as we did and funding groups like the Mujahideen resulted in terror cells, which ultimately said we hate you as much as we hate them. Oops. What? Like the United States is a bunch of fucking idiots. Ukraine, the Azov battalion, and everybody jokes in 10 years, the Azov battalion will be

committing terror attacks against the United States, just like the Mujahideen. Trump gets rid of all of that. What are some of the bad things Trump did? He shouldn't have hired John Bolton. He was giving a favor to Sheldon, I think Sheldon Adelstein. Bolton ultimately gets fired and Trump still maintained no new wars. This guy was a crazy warmonger. What are some of the bad things Trump has done? I'm going to try and think.

Well, the criminal cases against him are fake. We know that. The civil case against him is fake. The rape civil case against him is fake. I mean, the case against Brett Kavanaugh was fake. Tomahawk missiles. Trump fired 59 Tomahawk missiles into Syria. They called him presidential for doing it. That was a fuck up. Trump ordered a commando raid, or I should say he approved a commando raid in Yemen, which resulted in the death of many civilians. And he's been accused of killing

an eight-year-old American girl. Very, very bad. I think we should have an investigation of that. Does anybody have any other? Yeah, I got one. And I want to preface it by saying, I don't hate this guy, Trump. I actually really enjoy hanging out with his family

and I feel for him. But I feel like he really divided the country with his words in a way that I've never seen before a president do, by saying, fuck you. You're a bad guy. Not literally, I'm not saying, but he said, like, fuck the left. These radical, you all are a problem. And it, like, enraged society. And now people are at each other's throats.

And it's like no matter who wins, there's going to be chaos. Was it Trump who called half the country a basket of deplorables? No, it was Hillary Clinton. How did Trump cause the chaos? The media caused the chaos around Trump. Maybe, maybe.

The Trump presidency was chaotic because his political opponents made it chaotic. He called Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig. And then it enraged women. It probably won him the election. Maybe it did win him the election, yeah. a fat pig and then it enraged women. Which is like... That's a broad generalization. Maybe it did win him the election, yeah, but it lost a lot of people's hope in our president.

It was hard to watch. And I think it didn't need to be so divisive. He didn't call her a pig during the campaign. He'd called her a pig in the past and it was brought up. You called women fat pigs. It's only Rosie O'Donnell. And everyone cheered because it was so funny.

But hold on, hold on. What does that have to do with the policy of the individual? No, it's not the policy. His policies were pretty legit. So he's a potty mouth? Yeah. Oh, okay. I mean, and he's not, like, evil.

He's just, he's a businessman, and he's used to telling people, fuck you, you're fired, get out. What did Mitt Romney say? And that's like not the president's job. Mitt Romney said something in leaked audio. 40%. 47%.

Of Americans are lazy and don't want to work or something like that? No, no, no. It's the 47% are the ones who are paying taxes and the rest are lazy. Something like that. Yeah, like half of America is lazy and doesn't want to work or something about that. So what's the libertarian, you know, this sort of anti-Trump thing? What is the take on even just...

There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what because they are dependent upon government, believe that they are victims, believe the government has a responsibility to care for them. These are the people who pay no income tax. That was that was like that's that's a very tepid statement, too. And it's like it's like it's like relatively true, too. Yeah. Yeah. But in terms of the division, I think Chadwick is correct. It was the media that made this. You you go to any of Trump's businesses and ask people who work there, describe Trump to me,

and they're like, he's a great guy. He's the kind of guy that will hop out of his car to help you change your tire. He'll, in reality, he'll hop out of the car, ask you what's wrong, and then ask one of his guys to do it for you and then slip a $100 bill in your pocket. He's not literally gonna dirty his hands.

He's a billionaire. He's the guy who famously, and this is true, shows up at his stores, calls his out and then thanks them pats him on the shoulder and hands him hundred dollar bills you you you meet donald trump and he takes the time out of his day to help you but the media then says he's this evil nasty guy who insults you it's like for me it's cognitive dissonance hearing you guys say this but i think you're right like the media this this organization whoever runs and controls the American media, has intentionally divided the people to cause chaos to slip us into this new world order thing. Why did you say that was like cognitive dissonance?

Because I was like, Trump, why did you do that? Why did you enrage half the country on Twitter? I mean, I saw his tweets. He was infectingly going after people and insulting people. And that's not like the president's supposed to be a unifier of the people so that was terrifying to watch um so to hear this and think maybe i was wrong and maybe looking back it wasn't as divisive as it seemed is dissonant but he never said like joe biden that half the country is the greatest threat to the society

yeah the maggie extreme is the greatest threat to our country and society. He's talking about 80 million voters. And didn't he also say something about white people? Yeah, white people are the greatest threat to America. White supremacists, white terrorism. It felt like Trump opened the door to that crap. Hillary Clinton said basket of deplorables. But that was after, that was like after

Trump. No, that was during the debate. That was during the campaign. That was before Trump was president. That was during Obama. And so you had Obama with the whole racism narrative. And everyone, if you look at the polls, after Obama supported the BLM stuff, racial tensions escalated in this country. They were, they were actually, it was actually chill. And then his supporting this was a bad idea.

I don't blame him necessarily over all of it, but he did support it. So let's just do this. Let's say we can easily point to all of these candidates and presidents who have said things that have been divisive policy wise. Like, honest, I mean, I mean, it's absolutely honestly. Tomahawk missiles into Syria was a was a stupid move. It was a virtue signal because he targeted an empty airport and it was seemingly to like a show of strength that he's willing to do it. But honest question,

what are some bad policies of the Trump administration? The amazing thing about the Tomahawk missile is if you recall, his base was so furious. He never did it again. And remember when he was flirting with DACA and people started burning their maga hats never again okay i mean he is because he listens right he listens to people

he's like okay i gave the bomb stock band yeah he said what did he say he says i like to ban it first and then go to the con and then uh go around like something like ban ban him first and then get sued go on the constitution or something like that i mean he backed this definition of of anti-Semitism that was incorporated in the recent anti-Semitism bill that's extremely broad. You know, that's not good. It's not that he is infallible. I'm sure there's stuff I disagree with, right? On the other hand, again, I think this idea that we have, everyone always says a president

should be this way and it should be a unifier and this and the other, like, maybe, but can you tell me which president you looked at and was like, you the the representation of the unifying president because i i can't think of one off the top of my head take the guns first go through due process second that was a trump quote if you believe it to be completely honest is it is it is it here we have video of it under pressure after parkland president trump taking on his own party and the national rifle association today and i'm a fan of the nra but that doesn't mean we have to agree on anything. Mr. Trump at a freewheeling hour long meeting with a group of bipartisan lawmakers trying to get something, anything done, appeared to embrace nearly everything he heard in the

meeting from confiscating guns from those deemed dangerous, a move opposed by many conservatives. I take the guns first, go through due process. And embrace... He's talking out of context, obviously. That's bullshit. He did say it, but it was out of context. Also, the way he's posing, I'm waiting for him to be like, is that what you're saying to me?

And they cut just the moment they want. A thing I had concern with was when he moved the American embassy into Jerusalem. Is that where it was? He put it in Jerusalem? He signaled America's support of Israel basically. And then we see a couple years later now, the Israeli decimation of the Gaza Strip.

Didn't they name a development after him, like Trumpville or something in Israel after he did that? I think they did. And having a lot of American presidents signal their support for Israel, I mean, it's like a tried and true standby, separate of whatever party. Yeah. Dave Smith says the Abraham Accords were bad because it opened the door for Hamas to make

the attacks they're making and start this war. They had effectively been sidelined, their voice crushed when Trump enacted peace agreements that cut them out of the equation. My response to Dave Smith, and this is not exhaustive or definitive. Dave, absolutely. I don't want to. He's not here to respond. My response is whether or not terrorists and extremists will kill you should not deter you from making peace agreements between nations. Whether or not Hamas was going

to declare war and attack Israel should have no bearing on whether or not you bring peace to Israel and Saudi Arabia and the Emirates and Qatar. The Abraham Accords were fucking amazing. And the fact that Hamas went insane, that's unrelated. Dave says, but by doing these agreements, he's basically telling Hamas, the only move you have left to play is mass violence. I hear what he's saying. I think Trump working towards peace agreements is a good thing. But honestly, I'm genuinely saying, what are the bad policies of the Trump administration? The bomb stock ban was bad. Executive order, it was no good. It got defeated. Got defeated. What did the Trump administration do? I mean, it's kind of hard to think of,

to be honest. No, yeah, you're right. I mean, he got rid of hard to think of, to be honest. Yeah, you're right. He got rid of the TPP. That was when I almost killed myself in 2011, was when Obama was all for the TPP. I was like, I have no hope left if this guy is going and selling us out. With the grassroots left and the right reunited and that, it was the Bernie supporters that got the DNC to remove it from their platform that year at the

convention. So the Bernie supporters and the Trump supporters are totally on the same page economically for a moment. And Trump, if Hillary Clinton got in, TPP was signed. Yeah. And Trans-Pacific Partnership

meant, for those that aren't familiar, that the Communist Party of China had legal authority in the United States over your businesses. And corporations also. Right. It was terrible.

Corporations had the opportunity to sue the American people. NAFTA on steroids. Right. It was NAFTA for China. Yeah, china is that yeah and trump said nope and destroyed it and the fucking deep state was pissed yep so like but what happened to the birdie bros that were all against tpp when that was such a huge issue what happened they just totally disappeared or i mean i know no no no nine million uh democrats voted for Trump.

I was in Anaheim and I met three dudes. I have the video on my YouTube channel, actually. I don't know if I could pull it up. It might be hard to find. Three guys at a Trump rally in Anaheim. I interviewed them and they said they were Bernie voters. After Bernie got booted by the DNC, they went Trump. Yeah, but what after 2016? Where that their trump supporters economic progressive base go you know because a lot

of them just it seems like maybe slid into you know they just went blm so a lot of a lot of the bernie supporters were were a lot of the leftists who were supporting bernie were very critical of him the world socialist website said that he was a nationalist capitalist who couldn't be trusted. So a lot of leftists were like, Bernie Sanders gets us as close as possible to socialism, I'll vote for him. Another portion of Bernie voters

that I had interviewed at, I was in Janesville, Wisconsin at a Trump rally. And there were some guys there who were like, we're for Bernie because they were like, we like Trump, so we're here to see what he has to say. But Bernie's a politician. He knows how to work Washington. He knows how to cut these deals. He knows how Congress works. I think he'd be a good choice because I care about the border. I care about jobs. Trump says a lot of the same things, but Trump's never been here before. And

I think we think he'll get jammed up. Bernie gets the boot. These guys vote Trump. And a lot of them, I think, are still tepidly wondering if they're going to vote for Trump. Like I was that guy. I'm that Bernie supporter that was like, what the fuck do I do now? I can't vote for Trump. He's too hateful. That's what I went through my mind. I don't actually think that anymore at all. And I'm not voting for Hillary Clinton. She's a

fucking warmonger. And the DNC betrayed Bernie. So I don't know what to do. So I didn't vote. I voted for Jill Stein. I might not even know.'t vote i voted for jill stein i i might not even know i think i'd vote for jill stein green party i was like what the fuck do i do i didn't vote for trump in 2016 i thought it was silly yeah i was like you know been there done that obama was a lie i don't believe any of this shit and then it's a few years of me like me i'm being like i would never vote for trump but I can certainly understand they're lying about this.

Yo, I can understand that. Trump releases his second term agenda. And I'm like, I would be dishonest if I said I opposed these things. Right. Gun rights. Good thing. Getting rid of the garbage that's in schools and in government contracting. I can't deny. It's true. No new wars and a timeline for the Afghanistan withdrawal. If I said I wouldn't vote for that, it'd be very obvious to everybody that I was a liar. Right. So the reality is I want those things and I'll vote for Donald Trump. And then I did in

2020 and he won the election but lost the election, if you know what I mean. He won. So I told the story earlier today is a really great video of speed ice skating. And there's two, the way the speed ice skating starts is everyone starts off at a slow pace and slowly starts building up to higher and higher speeds. So you're basically pacing yourself and saving your energy for the final rounds. And it's like a strategy that is common. Instead of going full speed right away and then getting tired and losing, you want to make sure you're moderating your pace with the pack so you can push ahead of them right when it matters.

Two Chinese racers. At the start of the race, outside of the norm, a Chinese racer darts full speed all the way around, laps everybody instantly, and then stays in the back of the pack. The rest of the racers forgot that the person in first place was skating behind them. So they keep going around their laps. And then when they all get to their second to last lap, the Chinese racer who's actually in first and behind them crosses the finish line, triggering announcement. Final lap.

These people have two laps left to go, but think it's the last one. They go around one more time, and as they're getting to the finish line, they stick their feet out, cross into their final lap, and stop skating. The second Chinese racer darts full speed from the back of the pack to the front, take second place. The rest of the skaters are going, what, what?

What do you mean? You said final lap. And they're like, you never finished the race. And then they all dart in frantic. Oh my God. People said they were cheating. They cheated. They tricked the other players.

They didn't break any rules. It was strategy. If it's break any rules. It was strategy. If it's within the rules, it was a strategy and they owned you. Donald Trump won the election as if he was racing and trying to make sure he was ahead of the pack. The Democrats won the election because they tricked everybody, snuck around the back, and then said, but we got the votes. So it's cheating in the spirit of an election. I say Trump won the argument, but he lost the election because the election is the game we all play. Voting in the park, Zuckerbucks, all of that shit. And the ballot harvesting was a ploy to rig the game in a way that was approved by the state legislatures. And then at the end of it, nobody wanted to actually take up the challenge.

And they said, fuck it, Biden won. But it's so clearly going to happen this year too. I mean, how could it not? And they're doing this, and Biden especially, their whole demeanor about the selection is the exact same as 2020. In 2020, all of us were like,

there's no way this Biden guy's going to win. Like he can't leave his basement. And it's the same thing now. We're like, there's no way he can win. And he's doing the same campaign strategy and they're so unconcerned. Yep. They're so unconcerned.

Why? Because they feel like... Because they've got something up their sleeve. They have to. I mean, I just don't understand. I don't see how anything else could be possible. I think that... So there's a rumor.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't vote. I'm just saying. I don't know if you've heard this rumor that Trump already picked Rubio for VP. Oh, I haven't heard that, no. It's a rumor. That doesn't mean you shouldn't vote. I'm just saying. I don't know if you've heard this rumor that Trump already picked Rubio for VP. Oh, I haven't heard that. It's a rumor going around. And the rumor is as such, I've not heard this from like official Trump campaign people or anything like that. There's just high level politicos and like strategists and things like that outside of the Trump world who are like, this is what we're hearing.

Trump picked Rubio. Everybody knows Trump is pretending like he's auditioning a VP. Rubio is cutting deals behind the scenes with big Bush donors and DeSantis, you know, team donors. DeSantis is going to campaign for Trump now. Rubio is not announced yet as VP because he's working the fundraising racket behind the scenes. But when you announce and you're involved in the campaign, you get restrictions and things like this. I don't know that it's true. But my view is that if Trump does announce Marco Rubio as the VP, he will win the presidency in November. It's not because Rubio is a good candidate.

It's not because Rubio will earn an extra votes. It's because it means that Trump cut a deal with the deep state. Yeah, I kind of think that's going to happen. And that his support of Israel is really extreme too. And so I think the deal might be, they say the Ukraine and Israel wars are already started. You didn't start them. No one will blame you for that. They'll blame Joe Biden.

But you let us finish them. You'll get your domestic policy. You'll get your MAGA redemption. And you'll get to run your campaign. And you won't go to prison. And Trump says, all right, I guess. That sounds like a deal with the devil. That sounds like they're going to kill him and then put Marco Rubio in power.

Well, that's, I mean, mean yeah why would he do that but he wants to win because he wants to win hold on i don't know if that's true all i heard was that rubio is working fundraising deals with big bush donors and that trump has already picked him but the people who are saying this are not people who would know it's just like people in politics who are saying this are not people who would know. It's just like people in politics who are like, you know, someone was suggesting to me. It's like a rumor going around. For all we know, it's just bullshit. Just bullshit. And Trump's going to pick J.D. Vance.

Or Tulsi Gabbard. Or maybe Tulsi. You know. But that's why I say if it is Rubio, it turns out the rumor is true. That means a strong possibility that Rubio really is pulling deals with big Bush era donors. And he's basically got the deep state chilled the fuck out. It could be that the Israel issue with TikTok and, you know, these Democrat donors accidentally, except for Soros, the Pritzkers and the Rockefeller group were like, we are no longer funding these groups that are promoting the Israel stuff. They may be going, fuck, fuck, fuck,

our ship is sinking and it's anti-Israel. What do we do? And the deep state's like, our only alternative right now is Donald Trump. It could be like they put Trump in power. He plays ball with the Israeli lobbies, with AIPAC and like whoever is, because you had Elijah Schaefer on last week, I think, and I do think there are like big businesses that are controlling both israel

and the united states so he plays ball with those guys we fight over there that gets taken care of and then he's not too extreme at home and they just let him serve his last term they don't want a revolution they don't well maybe the foreign bankers do want an American revolution or an American civil war, but they might just let him run and play if he's. And then because maybe, maybe. But they definitely want this new world order thing. They want America to be like third or fourth power, fifth power. They don't want it to be that powerful anymore. I don't know the military industrial complex, but they play for money.

So like if they get paid by a different bank. What if what's actually happening is that Trump is part of the deep state conspiracy? And the issue was moderates and Democrats, a growing portion of the population, were sick of the machine, sick of the government, sick of it all. And we're becoming less and less patriotic as these foreign influences were manipulating social media and pushing this bullshit on us. So the deep state says, how do we reinvigorate American patriotism? The waving of the American flag bolstering our mission, our operation. And they said, well, you've got to give them the Obama hope and change. Right?

With Obama, the attempt was, he's not an old white guy. He's different. Maybe that'll work. It didn't. You got to occupy Wall Street. And so then they're going, okay, this is not working. We tried to bring in the younger black guy, celebrity with different paintings, and it's not instilling this vigor in people that America can change or is back. What do we do? Here's an idea. Donald Trump's a celebrity. Everybody loves the guy, right? Here's what we do. He's the guy who comes out and waves the American flag. Okay. He'll have reasonable, moderate policies that Democrats should support,

that independents should support, and Republicans could get behind, even though if it's a little moderate form. Media onslaught plays the villain. Any reasonable and discerning person is going to be like, this is insane. Stop making me defend Donald Trump. Donald Trump's funny. Everybody loves the guy. Trump enacts pro-America policies, defending our border, reinvigorating our economy and waving the American flag in a way that supports this country more than it's ever been supported. And the Democrats play the villain and attack him no matter what he does, no matter how good it is, so that reasonable people start siding with the American flag waving patriots instead of the anti-establishment traditional forces. We flip the script.

We make it punk rock to be pro-America. We make it punk rock to have kids. We make it punk rock to love this flag. They all start laughing and they're like, holy shit. The Green Day American idiot narrative flipped on its head. Rage against the machine. They'll be raging on behalf of the machine once we turn the counterculture into the machine. Let's roll. Through the first term, they say, we do one term of Trump, but Trump can't be a war starter. Trump starts a war. He's the

machine all over again. So here's what we do. We split the Trump term up and put a Biden Democrat term in between Biden's old. He can he is meaningless. He starts the wars for us. Trump then complains about it, gets reelected. His support goes through the roof. He laments that these wars were started by the Democrats, but his hands are tied. Now we get our wars. Everyone in the country screams and waves make America great again. And the people who used to be punk rock are now waving American flags and having babies.

How's that for a deep state conspiracy? That's pretty deep. That would be like the most complicated conspiracy ever pulled off. But it's deepest of the deep state conspiracies. Also simple because they've got the country at war now, or at least supporting a war in Israel, and now they get someone that's well

liked by patriots in there but the patriots are still supporting the war and trump has not signaled that he wants to end that conflict that i know of i mean we are on the cusp of uh being pro-family being punk rock right this is actually the the thing that people are being discouraged from doing if they tell you not to do something well what, what does the punk movement say to do? But do the opposite. We can't have – how many years can we have everyone freeze your eggs and delay having families? Isn't so much that just natural? I mean the deep state that people run are the people who grew up with those sort of more punk, that Gen X and even older boomer or younger boomer.

They grew up in counterculture and now they're the establishment. And so they don't really see how unlikable and cringe they are. Is there like... I think it's like... I don't think there's any conspiracy theories. Like there are, but they're like blips on the radar. And they're not like the Illuminati is

probably not real. The WEF is exactly what you think it is. All you need to do to understand, like you don't really break someone out of the conspiracy theory mind is like, meet Donald Trump one time. You meet him and you're like, watch him. And you're just like, there's really nothing to it, is there? He's exactly as you see him on TV in every way. There's nothing there.

And so these people think that behind the scenes all this crazy shit's happening and i'm like i assure you when hillary clinton gets in her limousine there's not a man in sunglasses who hands her a manila folder with like the next arkanside target it's just not that complicated murders happen conspiracies happen but they're small blips not big spikes hillary clinton gets in her car pours champagne and goes what a bunch of fucking idiots that's probably the depth of what happens and uh the reality is like humans are pretty much as you see them when when you see these politicians on tv on tv and then go meet them that's that's how they are like i'll say this for the people who have been here in this

studio you talk to vivek ramaswamy when the show ends he doesn't go okay thank you for having me And that's how they are. Like, I'll say this for the people who have been here in this studio. You talk to Vivek Ramaswamy. When the show ends, he doesn't go, OK, thank you for having me on the show. And like, all of a sudden, he's a different person. Like, he's exactly as you see him. When you're talking to him on the show, he's the exact same way in the other room. Donald Trump's the exact same way, exactly as you'd expect him. Hillary Clinton, they're all.

Now, they lie at rallies and stuff like that. Like Hillary Clinton puts on an accent. AOC did too. But it's like the idea that behind the scenes there's this great mechanism you can't see is just is not true. Yeah, it's like House of Cards or West Wing, it's like Veep is more likely. Right, it is. It's closer to reality. Well, and I think that works to

Trump's advantage. Have you guys seen the clip? I think it was like Undercover Bosses or something. He did some, you know, he's been on reality TV for so many years. There's a clip of him being like, I'm going to be a bellhop in my hotel for the day. And like, obviously it's Donald Trump. Everyone knows who he is, but like, he seems very personal. He's talking to the guests. He's talking to the other employees, uh, for someone who has actually been in the public eye exposed in a way that a lot of politicians are not. Politicians don't typically have reality TV shows. I think it's actually, that's the Donald Trump a lot of America remembers.

They remember him from Apprentice. They remember him from, you know, TV. They remember him from like appearing in Mac Miller's rap lyrics. But they don't, this is a new version of Donald Trump. See, I got Serge with that one. People used to rap about wanting to be Donald Trump because he was like a fancy billionaire, right? It's the new like he's actually mean and horrible Donald Trump that's emerged, I would say, since basically 2015.

New Yorkers still remember that he was the one who got the ice rink back in New York. It seems very difficult to replace the current narrative of Donald Trump with like decades of reality television Donald Trump. The positive references, I'll admit, I watch Sex and the City, okay? But the positive references to him in Sex and the City even, which is like the ultimate woman, girl power. I mean, it's not really like crazy feminist show actually. But it's targeted to women, yeah. Yeah, but it's targeted to women. It's like free sex, free love, New York, that kind of New York libertine spirit.

There's always like a casual reference to Donald Trump in the show that's very positive. He shows up in one of the Home Alones, right? Yeah, yeah. Second one? I think when he's in New York and he's in the lobby. And I think that's like, I think for a ton of people my age, that was like the first thing I remember about Donald Trump. He's in that one movie. It was when he harassed about Obama's birth certificate.

It was the first time I ever saw negative press about him. The only time I ever felt negative press about him, actually, was when he was like, Obama's not American and I can prove it. I don't know what he said exactly, but he's from Kenya. He had the birth certificate. And I was like, is this guy full of shit? I mean, I always thought he was a funny, rich guy. But he seemed a little nervous when he'd be on TV. He was kind of holding back his real thoughts. But you've got to do that when you're a letterman you're not going

to be like yeah you know well no that must have been like the moment when it was okay to call him a racist probably you know what i mean because before that you would never call donald trump a racist like the deep state's golden child yeah yeah and so he was going after the deep state's golden child i imagine that that was when the media just started unleashing on him i don't know if obama was i feel like it was hillary was supposed to be and then obama came up out of nowhere and kind of just fucked everything up yeah and i think they were pissed about it yeah yeah they got her turn yeah i don't know if they got to him they were supposed to his wife michelle was going to do this let's move campaign and it was cut sugar out of your diet and then they very quickly someone talked to her and they're like let's just make it an exercise campaign but don't talk about sugar it's big

sugar uh katie couric did a uh documentary called fed up about it about how the big big sugar came in and twisted michelle's campaign so they they were like i mean of course you become president the deep state's coming knocking because they're gonna all want you to course correct to their focused plan which seems to be uh switzerland so. So we were we had like congressional staffers on the show before Lisa Reynolds, who does booking for a culture war has also been on like she worked on the Hill for like, what, 12 years or whatever. And it's funny that there are all of these different lobbies with tremendous power. Are we really going to entertain the idea that the sugar industry controls the presidency

because they convinced Michelle Obama not to criticize sugar? Yeah. And who owns the sugar industry? I don't know. Oh, is that true? It was a rhetorical question. I still don't know. It's like there, there, there are people who genuinely like want to choose, like pick your conspiracy. There was a funny meme before where it was like, all you have to do to figure out where you fit in is choose the group of people you don't like, and then we can fill in the conspiracy for you. So, like, who's responsible for all the world wars? Men. That is a statement made by feminists.

Men are responsible for all the world wars, and if women were in charge, it wouldn't happen. How about this? Maybe you're an occupier. Do you think the 1% are responsible for all the world wars, and if women were in charge, it wouldn't happen. How about this? Maybe you're an occupier. Do you think the 1% are responsible for all the world wars? That's the Occupy Wall Street movement. Do you think that it is cis heteronormative patriarchy that started all the wars? Now you're an intersectional feminist. And if you think it's the Jews, you're an anti-Semitic or anti-Zionist, anti-Semitic mix or whatever you want to call it. You can pick and choose so uh it's like a babylona b equivalent to a buzzfeed quiz yeah so so basically what someone noticed this was like

in i think like 2014 the meme popped up some point and they were like all of these statements like the banks are controlled by x the wars are started by x you know like insert all of these conspiracy theories you just it's blank. Blank is responsible for this. Blank is responsible for this. Blank does this to us. Blank does this to us. Blank lies about this. Insert the 1%, white people, black people, Jews, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, the Irish. The banks are run by the Irish. They are. I don't know if today. But when Ye was on the show and he left we were like let's look up who actually runs the banks and it's like mostly irish guys

that proves it it's a front it's an irish cabal they're just being propped up i think the like the way you probably should look at the world in terms of interest groups is imagine you have a bunch of blobs that are different colors like a a green blob, a blue blob, a pink blob, and some are growing and pushing on others and shrinking and some are moving and consuming others. There is no one gigantic blob that controls everything.

It's just all different forces of influence exerting influence over each other and trying to get bigger. Is it families? Like, is it always families? Sometimes, not always. It's just interest groups. So there was this, actually there was a uh let me see if i can find this

blobs there was uh or how about uh european population over time there was a video i watched that was like a really good explanation of interest groups wow this is super annoying 2024 like i want videos dude just where's the fucking video tab i can't just okay there we go and the way it break broke it down was uh i don't know how to find it there were circles representing population size and the country's name, and they grow and shrink and push against each other. And like countries could be a proxy for corporation, interest group, royal family, whatever. But that's really what it is. And some are larger than other, but there is no one, you know?

Yeah. And the money can change people's allegiance like overnight. I would say for 90% of people, money changes people's allegiance overnight. Like, I don't know if you guys saw this music video that's going viral where it's a guy in a dress singing, like, an emo song. Oh, yeah. You saw this one. Oh, Ren? Yeah.

No, TX2 is the band's name. And he's like, put a bullet in a kid's head, think he's got a sickness if he doesn't dress up straight, and he wrote, this is punk. Yeah, I gotta be honest. If you went to that guy and you were like, we're with a big record label, we wanna have all of your shirts in every mall. We wanna have your album in every store.

We're talking Billboard Hot 100. We are talking headlining tour with all of your favorite emo bands. How does that sound? He's gonna start crying and be like, this is a dream come true for me. And if the label then said, the only thing we're concerned about

is like this really heavy political stuff, keep it to like dating and your feelings and like who you love like we get it man we totally get it you know what i mean like republicans am i right but security issues you know like there's a lot of people probably agree with you but you're coming on a little strong so let's pull the politics out of it we can reverse it we'll revisit this later sound good he signs that contract in two seconds two seconds that's that's what i'm constantly struggling with with my that's why i was talking about fucking vaccines on the show earlier because i cannot it's like i cannot stop

myself from saying fuck you to the fucking money system and it's like how can i how can i partake in a thriving business if i'm telling it to fuck you to all the money like i think that the reality is you spend too much time hanging out with luke and clint who are trying to maintain their libertarian bona fides by hyper focusing on one issue that gets them traffic well it's not just one it's just kind of also how i'm built like i love the honest truth i love the truth the truth is like this is it's, it's, it's freeing. And what does that mean? Set you free. The truth will set you free.

Like you, are you going to be killed? It just sets you free of your own physical body. Like the riches of man. We're talking about talking about Jesus. Like I don't want to twist the whole conversation and talking about Christ, but like he talks about, or are you seeking the riches of man when they come to you and offer you this

global business deal? If you just stop talking about what you truly believe, or are you going to say no and just keep saying what you truly believe? It's a question of there is an evil emperor and he murders children and sniffs them and we want to

stop him. Who's going to be more effective at stopping the emperor? The angry townspeople with pitchforks and torches at the emperor's gates? Or the ninja? And Jesus was not successful at it. He got slaughtered by the emperor.

I disagree. That was a philopropesy, though. I mean, like, you could argue that Jesus was the most effective ever by being a beacon. But I'm talking about you, Ian, in your position on the show is, I have to talk about the vaccine is the rabble running up to the emperor's gates and throwing rocks at his wall. What's the end result of that?

The samurai come out and they slice you down the chest and you're dead. You've accomplished nothing. You no longer exist. The ninja dresses up as a water bear and knocks and says, I am the water bear for the emperor. And they open up the gate and say, please enter, sir. And he walks up to the emperor and puts a knife in his chest. I thought that Jesus failed. Like when I'm looking at the story, if he really wanted a righteous society, the empire was nasty.

And he just wouldn't stop speaking the truth. And they were like, well, he's on our radar now. We know where he is. We'll pay his friend to turn him in. And his friend took the money. And then I was like, I'd rather... Wasn't Jesus a success? I was like, if he had overthrown the empire and

established a benevolent dictatorship and then stepped down from power and established a new, more benevolent government, that would have been success in my eyes. I think the Christians believe he was successful because his death saved all of mankind. But then the Romans just went to war. The machine just continued right after they killed him and then they just kept going. He doesn't all of mankind. But then the Romans just went to war. The machine just continued right after they killed him, and then they just kept going.

He doesn't care about mankind. Dr. Tracer in the member chat says, I thought Tim said water bear. I did. See, water bears are very tiny. Tardigrades. And they slip through the cracks of the wall, and no one notices.

You know what, Jesus, I feel like he was like, they write him to be the hero in the story because they didn't want a revolution. They were like, well, let's just make it seem like he did. He succeeded. So people don't freak out, but that he, but I mean, what he was up against almost insurmountable odds. What can you expect? Like him to be a sleuth. He wasn't, that wasn't his purpose, I guess, in life. He wasn't the ninja. He didn't want to be a ninja. He wanted to be a bright, shining beacon. So if you are hiring for your company or contracting for your company, auditioning people for a role or in any way running a public accommodation, and you say Jews killed Jesus, you are in violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. It was Donald Trump who created that executive order, ordering federal agencies to interpret

anti-Semitism under the IHRA. It was Congress that codified it for the country. You now have people on the right saying they've made it illegal to say Jews killed Jesus. You then have liberals saying, oh, that's bullshit. Calm down. That's not true. It's not that you'll go to jail. But the point is.

The Koran and the Bible now, if there are found to be influences in your action in a public accommodation will be used against you. So if you said at a church and there were Jewish people present at your Christian church, Jews killed Jesus, you have discriminated against them. Note, it's no different than if you said, well, we should clarify. If action is taken against them in any adverse or positive way, but typically positive doesn't find its way into these things. And you say Jews killed Jesus. You have now committed a civil rights violation under Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act because to say Jews killed Jesus is anti-Semitic. If you say some specific Pharisees seem to have colluded, some specific Pharisees colluded with the Romans to kill Jesus, and the Pharisees were Jewish. Is that then not—or is this just a general claim that Jews are responsible as what's illegal?

In the language, it specifically says Jews killed Jesus. And the Bible says in no uncertain terms that it is Jews who killed Jesus, not the Pharisees. Right. And it says it several times. Well, literally, a Roman guy is the guy who put the knife into his side and finished him. The issue is if Donald Trump walks up to a guy and says, I'm going to pay you a million dollars to kill Ian Crossland. And the guy goes, okay, Trump is responsible. We say Trump ordered an assassination.

He's responsible. So the argument is the Jews demanded of Pontius that Jesus be crucified. He could be killed. And so the Bible, the Bible doesn't, in some of these passages, it just literally says you who have killed, you know, the son of Christ or the son of God or whatever, the Christ. So the, but the point is, this means that motivation, if someone comes into your restaurant and you say, let's say a guy walks in your restaurant. You go, hey, no, no, no, no, you get out of here. I don't want you here. What's he going to claim, right?

Let's say you have scripture on your wall that says, and I say unto you, you know, you who have killed the son of God. And a Jewish guy walks in and you say, no, no, no, no, you get out of here. He goes, that's anti-Semitic. You run an anti-Semitic organization, uh, restaurant. And you kicked me out because you're anti-Semitic because you're claiming Jews killed Jesus. He has a claim against you because, because, right. I thought that it is discrimination. So, so we'll clarify. It really doesn't matter that much if a Jewish guy walks into your restaurant and you say, Jews killed Jesus. You get out of here. Like, it doesn't matter if you think Jews killed Jesus.

Kicking a guy out for being Jewish violates the 1964 Civil Rights Act. But the issue now is there's a broader interpretation that if action is taken against someone and in some way a reference to Jews killing Jesus is included in any way, they can make the claim you are anti-Semitic because of it. That's a slippery slope. Oh, absolutely. It's a terrible idea. And that's new legislation? Yeah. More importantly, though, it says you can't call Israel Nazis. And it's like, fuck off. National socialists? Are they national socialists? Doesn't matter. The idea, so the argument is, if you say it is anti-Semitic to say that Israel has policy like the Nazis, that's that's according to the IHRA. It's an example. And so what is required to be a violation of the 1964 Act, 1964 Civil Rights Act is denial of a public accommodation prejudice. accommodation, prejudice with this characteristic, right? So if a black guy walks into your store and you say, we don't serve your kind around here, who? Poor people. You got to have money if you want to come to my establishment. Then it's like, okay, now you're being a dick. And they might say, you know, they might try, but like the reality is you can kick anybody

out for any reason. The issue then becomes if there's something in your place of business that can be reasonably construed as racist, sexist, anti-gay, or whatever, let's say you have a restaurant, and you have a big sign saying, God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. A gay guy walks in, overly flamboyant, and you say, you certainly need to leave my store. He's going to sue you, and he's going to say, it's because I'm gay. And they're going to go to court, and he's going to sue you. And he's going to say, it's because I'm gay. And they're going to go to court. He's going to say, look what he's hanging up in his wall. We know he's anti-gay. That sign is already attacking me. And they're going to say, he has free speech, but then he kicked me out.

And it's motivated by hate. And they'll say, okay, yeah, you're right. That just got passed like in the last two weeks or something. That's really fucked, dude. Absolutely. And the people who are claiming that they didn't make it illegal to say Jews killed Jesus are, first, I think both sides could do with some clarification. But it is a lie to say that it's not illegal. It's not a criminal offense.

You won't go to jail. But, yes, they say it is anti-Semitic to say Jews killed Jesus. And that can be construed as a motivating factor for discrimination if someone sues you you know i guess i'm i'm safe on this one because i feel like the romans paid jewish people to be in the audience and to scream to kill them like i feel well there were jewish maybe but they were also traitors they they don't you know they're gonna that's i like paid agitators i feel like in the crowd is like kill him kill him pontius pilates like i i can't they want him dead there's nothing I can do about it the Jews demanded it I'm like yeah I think the Romans kind of kind of ushered that one along I actually don't blame the Romans at all for killing Jesus I mean they played their role but

that as the story goes Pontius was like my blood will not be on this man I'm not going to kill this guy he didn't do anything and they were like he's a blasphemer. He's your, I don't know if they use the word blasphemer, but they're like, he's a heathen. He's a liar. He's a, he's a false prophet. Kill him. And then he was like, Barabbas, the murderer or Jesus. And they were like, crucify him. And he's like, my God. And then Pontius was like, I have a ride on my hands. These people are furious. I have no choice. Certainly that is bad on the part of Pontius was like, I have a ride on my hands. These people are furious. I have no choice. Certainly that is bad on the part of Pontius and the Romans. But it is driven by like, you know, it's really funny because it's like BLM showing up to a guy's house in Milwaukee and protesting.

And then the cops showed up and arrested the guy in his own house. Like Pontius was like, I don't want to deal with a riot. I'd rather just kill the Messiah instead. It's fucking wild. Yeah, Jesus, he might've fucked up. I think he started to buy his own hype. Like he was like, oh, he read all those ancient texts. He was like, I think I'm the Messiah.

Okay, and I was told that my father is God. So I really think I'm the Messiah. And then the Jews are like, okay, then you're our king, lead us to salvation. He's like, not that kind of Messiah. I'm not your king. And they're like, well, if you're the Messiah, you're our king. He to salvation he's like not that kind of messiah i'm not your king and they're like well if you're the messiah you're our king he's like no no no no i'm another kind of messiah and the jews were like well fuck you then you claim to be the messiah die that might have happened so don't buy your own hype or he was the messiah and it threatened

the power structure so they killed him yeah i think that's, well, he was, I don't know. I don't know how that, what that word even means. Yeah, I think the Passion of the Christ was an amazing watch. And I haven't watched it until like a year ago. But understanding the like, the politics of it was really fascinating.

Like knowing the story and growing up and hearing the story of like Jesus and the crucifixion and all that stuff, you hear these stories in piecemeal, watching the passion and seeing the politics of Pontius. I wash my hands of this man. His blood will be on you and your children. That's what he said. Pontius said, the blood of this man is on you and all your children. And they shouted back. It is on us and our children. And he said, OK,

then to death. And that's why. And that's how it was. So that's the Bible saying Jews took responsibility for killing Jesus. If you believe that, you're deemed anti-Semitic. Yeah. Wild. I mean, like, I don't want to tell you. Like, that's actually what the Holocaust Remembrance Memorial, whatever, says. That's now codified in law.

So welcome to America. That's uber disturbing. Hey, hey, hey. We talk a lot about Christianity here, but oh boy is the Quran and the Hadith banned. Fuck. The Hadith literally says that they have to go kill Jews. So like, what the fuck?

How did that get passed? What happened? They all cheered and said anti-Semitism was bad. Yeah, it was... Trump pushed it too. It was a campus protest. I'm sure. It only passed the House. I mean, it hasn't gone to the Senate yet, right? Right. I think, yeah, I think you're pushed it too. Reaction to campus protests. I'm sure. It only passed the House.

I mean, it hasn't gone to the Senate yet, right? Right. I think, yeah, I think you're right, yeah. Okay. So it's not law. Yeah, they expect it not to go anywhere. But it's also incredible if in that it's saying Israel's behaving like Nazis

and then it's equating criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism. I mean, that's pretty insane. That's amazing. Yeah, right. Hating on a culture is different. The Congo is raping people, then, well, that's pretty insane. That's amazing. Yeah, right. Hating on a culture is different. The Congo is raping people, then, well, that's anti-black discrimination.

Yeah, Scott Adams was like, fuck Israel, then. Like, how dare you tell me I can't criticize your country? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's bullshit. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm down to criticize Israel. It's interesting how many, it's bipartisan, the criticism of this bill. I mean, they're both sides of the aisle. I mean, Bernie Sanders just announced he's running for re-election, and he was like, that was not a good bill. I think people right now are struggling because they want to treat people with compassion and they don't want to be hateful, and I understand that. On the other hand, credit where credit is due, the Palestine protests make everyone have to reevaluate their position on these issues. And again, Bernie Sanders, when he gave his announcements,

his reelection, I was saying, you know, Israel has the right to defend itself. On the other hand, right now, what they're doing is not defending itself. It's, you know, effectively being an aggressor. And I'm not directly quoting him there. I think every time that we talk about free speech, it's really important because we were kind of refine our position. And this bill is interesting because I think it woke a lot of people up to how fragile free speech is. You can't just be like, oh, well, you can't criticize some people and then also claim to be in a free speech country. Yeah. I mean, every communist dictatorship in the world had something similar to a First Amendment in their constitution. And it's just passing things like this that are like it's just it's circling right it's like well we're not criminalizing speech we're not going to lock you up but you can't say that saying this yeah but we're just going to put this thing in the law that says in these situations this i mean

it's just a slow encroachment on when you just start putting anything like i think it's wild that the uh the palestinian flag is the color of the four horsemen of the apocalypse yeah but the color of yellow what is it yeah green black uh green black red and white fucking weird so there's uh the the translation for the green horse is also the pale horse but i kind of don't think pale makes sense if you already have white. So some say that the translation could be pale green or yellowish green. And so many people just use green because how do you do pale and white when you're representing the horses? So red, black, green, and white are the horsemen of the apocalypse, and that is the color of the Palestinian flag. I want to go Israel. And many flags in the region.

I've been getting many of those. After I smoked this, I faked this DMT, dude. It fucked me up. In a good way, it changed me. After I smoked this, I faked this DMT, dude. It fucked me up. Like, in a good way, it changed me. But, like, I saw these entities. Like, I saw things that were not God. I don't want to go too deep into that story right now. I'll do that.

But what, and, like, I'm like, do I want to criticize the Israeli government, the Likud, Ben, Netanyahu? Do I want to criticize you? Or do I want to go to Israel and worship at the wall? And I'm like, I'm drawn to the wall right now. And, like, doing a political show and talking about politics is hard'm like, I'm drawn to the wall right now. And like doing a political show and talking about politics is hard. Like I'm not there. So I'm not there being there with them.

I'm criticizing them from a distance. And I'm like, I feel like my soul is being torn away. Like my body is in the, not in the wrong place, but like, I've got to go. I've got to go to Israel. Are you going to go? Yeah. I want to go there.

I mean, I have free time. Sure. I don't have the plans yet, but I mean, I could buy a ticket and fly over there. Like it's a nice place next week. You know, I don't know anyone that lives. Do you guys, if you guys know someone that lives over there, I could stay with, maybe I could just go spend some time over there. Read the Bible while I'm there.

I mean, I think it's a really meaningful experience for a lot of people. I think that would be more healing than worrying and watching from a distance and complaining. Obviously, I don't complain that much. You're going to show up and their border guard is going to go, hey, Ian. Oh, yeah. They'll be like, we've been expecting you. Yeah. We were listening.

They're good security. They know what the fuck. Come on in. We'll show you the wall. They've pioneered a lot of security in terms of travel stuff where they do stuff. In the United States, they'd be like, good evening. What was your name? They've pioneered a lot of security in terms of travel stuff where they do stuff. In the United States, they'd be like, good evening, what was your name? Your name, sir?

You're talking to me? Yeah. Ian. Ian. And what are you doing here? I'm about to pray at the wall. You're going to pray at the wall? Okay.

Where are you from? Ohio, originally. What's your favorite baseball team? Cleveland Indians. Indians, huh? Where do they play? In Cleveland. Yeah, but what's the stadium called? I don't know now. You don don't know what's your favorite food i was gonna say sushi uh maybe other stuff we got good sushi here here's your passport back welcome to israel thank you uh

they do questions like that because people who are told what to say don't know how to talk about localities and stuff like that and so they're not necessarily looking for the answer they're looking for how you behave to the question the us does this too uh i had an immigration check when i was going from san diego to la they stopped the bus they came on started asking everybody questions the guy comes up to me asked me for my id and i go hand it to him he goes where you from i was like chicago and he's like what are you doing and i was like i'm actually going to la but the ride that i got goes to san diego favorite baseball team and i laughed and i was like oh okay i was like, I'm actually going to LA, but the ride that I got goes to San Diego. Favorite baseball team. And I laughed and I was like, oh, okay. I was like, I'm from the South side, so I'm supposed to say the Sox, but I really don't care about baseball. And then he

laughed and he was like, all right. And then he gave me the ID back. Because people who are transporting illegally will be told, here's what you got to say. And they want to ask you something seemingly random because they can tell if it's a real answer or not. So Israel is famous for pioneering a lot of the security stuff where they'll seemingly ask you a random question just to see your reaction. Yeah, clever, very clever. Man, I imagine that the energy over there is palpable.

Yeah, I don't know that they'll literally be like, it's Ian Crosland. But they might ask you something where you might be like, well, that's something I've never been asked before. I was reading about how Jesus went up toareth and like all the places that he went went through in the bible and i'm like fascinated i want to see them now i want to go there and like be understand it and the craziest thing about it is that for uh i mean how many how many years was

like a thousand some odd years like the region of the holy land was basically just nobody gave a shit after the after everything fell i like the muslims won it in the jihad they took it they displaced the the jews from the region the christians uh were pushed out of it the crusades i suppose they wanted it back but then uh, you know, I have to wonder. I've asked some people about the current state, Zionism and all that stuff. And the general answer I get from most people is the military operations you see that go on in the Middle East pertaining to Israel, things like the Balfour Declaration and the settlement of Jews were not religious. However, the Zionists, Christian evangelicals, and Jewish Zionists, absolutely played a massive role in pushing for and being involved in,

but it mostly only happens because military powers thought it convenient. So it's kind of like there are people who live in crackpot reality where they think Israel runs the world, which is ridiculous. But because of the U.S.'s interests in the region and willingness to support and sustain it, evangelicals and Zionists have tremendous influence and have been able to gain a lot of control. So the religious influence in the actions of Israel is massive, but the overarching policy plans are not religious. Dude, I got it. Okay, I got to tell you about the DMT, dude.

It was amazing. I vaped this DMT and I saw, I don't know if you guys have ever taken DMT, take this DMT. It wasn't a lot. I didn't break through because I didn't get the element hot enough. I just had enough that I saw the veil.

I stepped up to it and I saw through it. I saw first I was sitting there and then it's like, I'm in this like stereoscopic space and there's these letters and numbers that are like A, seven, four on its side, like a half of a Z and like these ribbons like being pulled,

all these numbers and shapes. And some of them I recognize. And then they're like in these like three dimensional patterns. And then they take the outline of this woman's arm and she's waving me towards her like this. And, and then this other guy appears kind of to the left. I see this other guy and they're like, basically like this, these white energy fields,

but I can see her dark hair because I only took just a little bit. And then this guy to the left, it's a male energy field. And then, but he's smaller. And then in between them is an even smaller energy field. And then afterwards I realized it's because she's closer and they're further away. So they seem smaller, but it was because she was closest. And then, and then she, I was like, where are you? And she was like, in. And they wanted me to come in. And I asked the guy, are you God? And he laughed.

He was like, no, no. I was like, what are you? What is God? And they showed me it's a vortex. They showed me the vortex. And it's like at the center of every black hole. And they weren't 100% sure, but that's what they think. They're not God.

And they have personality these things these and they say that you see a purple lady people have said that some people have seen it's because it's ultra violet frequency it's high frequency stuff they're like high frequency beings and they're here with us right i mean i'm i'm fucking lit they're here right now a present i don't know where if where is actually a viable concept in that in that state of being but they said they were in i want to go back they want me there and they i was like when i finished the next day i was like so depleted what's that sound like demons they sounded like like they were aliens on a spaceship if i think they were on a spaceship somewhere and they were watching me like so happy that I could see them.

Like if an ant could see you and you realize the ant could see you, that kind of – they were looking at me like recognizing that I could see them. And they want me to go back. But they want me – after the next day – oh, when I got there, I was like, oh, I can be afraid or I can be calm. And if I chose fear and cortisol fired, they would have got distorted and looked like demons. But I chose to be calm and it was love. Just essence of love. You should do the deal. You should do the deal with them.

All they want is for me to translate. You know what the deal is, right? What's the deal? So people have reported that on DM dmt the entities they meet offer them knowledge resources access success in exchange for nothing nothing they simply want to help you they do want to help that's it accept their help and do as they as they command and your life will be fruitful i don't know them well enough yet, but I will go there and find out. Some people believe that these are demons, and you're opening the door to see them,

and the help they offer will genuinely make your life better. And you'll be in service of demons, not realizing the things you're doing are causing their ends, their aims, and destruction and pain. So to you, you might be like, wow, my company is really successful. These entities have given me all this knowledge. I have so much access now. And you're standing on a pile of skulls. Yeah.

Does it not bother you that like if you doubt them or question if you feel fear, they become demons, but you submit and don't obey, then they're full of love. Like that would freak me out. That seems manipulated. That's what I thought too. I didn't choose. That doesn't seem like an honest. Presentation.

And I should say, it's an assumption. I didn't choose fear. I didn't. So I don't know what would have happened, but it didn't become evil. It was just love. It was just this high frequency love all throughout. And I realized we become alive

so that we can experience what's not love, pain, fear, so that we have a reference point of how great love is. Because in that state, it's always, you're desensitized to it. There's this woman on Instagram who's this old lady, and her whole thing is like, love and calm and welcome to my home. And I'm convinced now that she's the antichrist. Because she's like, oh, I'm just in my home today knitting some socks. It's like really calming. And I'm like, there's something really evil about this woman.

I can't quite put my finger. And then I saw her pronouns are in her bio, and she's like 80. And I was like, so be careful of that love thing. That everlasting love. It was exhausting. I came out of it depleted. And it's not everlasting.

Like you said, if you have any fear of them the love is gone maybe because people have said that they sometimes they see demonic things and i'm wondering if that's because of cortisol i don't know because as soon as my stomach growled i was like yanked back to this perception cortisol your body's way of telling you when you're in danger it's like a chemical fear response yeah but you can shoot it or not shoot it that you are in danger your body produces cortisol so but the demons are telling you to ignore your cortisol no they didn't they were just there they were present and then i was like i can pick a path right now i can either let my body get scared or i can be calm and i chose to be calm and then after it was done i was out and i

was like starting to get sad that it went away i was like oh i want to feel this ah where's the dmt and then i was like no just relax and another to feel this. Ah, where's the DMT? And then I was like, no, just relax. And another woman appeared to my right and said, thank you. Because I chose to just be calm. So I can scientifically and mathematically prove that woke people are evil. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I can.

Let's hear it. So I'll take you on a journey, my friends. What is life? What is life? 42 friends what is life what is life 42 what is life actually that's a big question what is technically what is the definition of life

how would you describe it in your mind I mean I guess if you look at the lowest organisms it's something that consumes, reproduces, and... Well, yeah. That's a very rudimentary... I mean, we still don't even know if viruses are life. There's still debate about that. Well, so we can take a look at the universe, and we have entropy and extra P entropy of course everyone

understands the the the pull towards chaos which in its in and of itself is actually really interesting because pure chaos is actually pure order the heat death of the universe is effectively every particle evenly spaced out which is pure order but also kind of nothing so everything's moving towards disorder but an ultimate blanket parallel state. So what is life? Life is in essence a weak negative entropy. Everything drifts towards entropy.

Life resists it to a certain degree. As the universe moves towards disorder, life does the opposite, moves towards order. So we as living things, we can go all the way back to the Big Bang, assuming the Big Bang is correct. And what do we have? Pure state of hyper-focused, centralized space, perhaps the white hole with energy being emitted from a higher plane, another dimension, or perhaps it was a concentration of all matter in the universe, explodes outward. And that's an entropic burst. That's entropy. Everything begins to move towards

disorder. As this disorder expands, there's an opportunity and an attempt at ordering the disorder. So as energy is spreading out in a bunch of different, in every possible direction, and space-time is expanding, you end up with hydrogen slamming into hydrogen, forming helium, denser elements being fused in the center of stars. While the universe is drifting towards disorder, there is a force of negative entropy that is pulling some things back towards order. Ultimately, this results in the formation of stars, the formation of planets, the formation of other celestial bodies. Ultimately, this results in the formation of stars, the formation of planets, the formation of other celestial bodies. Eventually, you get what we would describe in Star Trek as Class M planets. These are planets capable of holding life. What happens on these planets is with the specific concentration of negative entropy, you develop self-replicating proteins, the basic building blocks of life. A volcano erupts,

gets struck by lightning. Volcanic lightning charges particles, which then land in water, creating primordial soup and proteins form. And then what do those proteins do? They attach to other particles, free energy drifting in this pool and convert it into other proteins, splitting off and creating more of themselves. Soft replicating proteins at some point become single cellular organisms where they combine more of this free energy into a denser body. These single-celled organisms begin to go through a process of artificial or natural selection, and you ultimately end up with animal and plants. The plants are producing energy by capturing free energy from outside, combining it with

energy that's available to them and creating more of themselves, quite literally negative entropy, creating order from chaos. You then end up with the expansion into multicellular organisms, where at this level, free energy being absorbed by single cellular organisms from the sun, from the earth, from wherever, converted to other cells, creating a complex system within the cell of energy exchange. But then it connects to another cell, creating a multicellular organism, the next level beyond a single cellular organism. So we have from the Big Bang, we have the coalescing of lighter elements into denser elements, the formation of planets and complex system,

which can support life, self-replicating proteins to single cells to multicellular organisms, all for the purpose of collecting free energy and organizing it into a complex system, thus turning chaos into order. As multicellular organisms begin to go through development, becoming more and more complicated through competition and natural selection, you end up with multicellular organisms that are beyond 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, even into 10,000 different cells. The body is now producing a deeply complex system well beyond a single replicating protein. Things are to get interesting now. Not only are these

life forms creating complex systems, order from chaos within their own bodies, but they're creating networks that interact with other multicellular organisms, creating an abstract, complex system, order from chaos. A good example of this is as single cellular beings become multicellular beings and environments and ecosystems begin to emerge, you end up with the squirrel in the tree. The acorn falls from the tree. The squirrel grabs the nut, buries it for the winter, planting a new tree. That action carried out by the squirrel is in and of itself a complex system taking free energy and creating order from chaos. Eventually you get environmental manipulation with

like beavers. Beavers not only create more of themselves, organizing free energy from the environment into other beavers, which are complex systems, but they begin to build dams, which alter the environment, creating a complex system in the environment outside of the exchange between organisms. Along come human beings, the highest level known to man of complex organization. Humans not only create complex systems by reproducing themselves, creating order from chaos, we not only affect the environment, creating order from chaos, but we create abstract ideas that exist in a network of communication thoughts in our minds, like different words, mathematical problems, and names for things. For instance, a chair. We've not only taken wood and converted it into something more complex for a purpose,

we've given it a name. In fact, we've given it like 15 different names. You can call it a stool. You can call it a chair. You can call it any sort of, it could be a rolling chair. It could be a different kind of chair. It could be a table. It can be a desk. It could be a drawer. It could be a cupboard. All of these different things have names that fit into a complex system of abstract thought. Humans are the highest level of the creation of order from chaos in that we are now at a level where chaos can become order only in our minds and exists in a space beyond the physical reality. So humans, with the emergence of humans, we are no longer just eating a cheeseburger and making a human. That's rudimentary. That's what life does. Humans have created the abstract. Now in our minds exist

complex systems that don't exist in physical reality. The question next becomes what is beyond abstract complex systems? Perhaps it's the humans are the highest level within this reality. Perhaps there are entities that can actually manipulate the fabric of the universe itself, creating complex systems in the code of the universe. And now to my point, mathematically and scientifically proving that the woke are demons and are evil. These are agents of chaos. They burn, they destroy, they have no plan, they have no morals. Their mission is simply smash windows. You ask them why they protest, they can't tell you. Now, certainly destruction can be in the service of organization. If something has frayed edges, you strip the frays, you shave them down

to clean it. If an object is rusted, you polish it, scraping away the rust to clean it, to improve it and restore it to order. But the far left does not do that. They are simply an organism of chaos. They burn things down. They destroy systems. They act in the inverse of all life, thus the negative life equation. Actions of the far left, communists and socialists are inherently demonic, whether you think that's figurative or literal. They defy the purpose of life as we can see it scientifically. To put it simply, through human observation, what we can conclude is that life is negative entropy, a weaker force than entropy. And over a long enough period of time, life will

be destroyed. Negative entropy can only be created if it creates more entropy in its path. As the far left creates more entropy, then, then as I'll put it this way, positive life forces, those who believe in the family and having kids and building things and leaving those things behind are creating organization to the best of their abilities, but leaving a wake of entry behind them. The far left creates nothing but entropy. This is, this is an inverse function to what life does. The woke, the left, communists, socialists, they are quite literally forces of destruction and entropy, which defy the purpose of life. That is my tent talk. I agree with you, but a counter argument might be, wouldn't the academic left say that their destruction of civilization is precisely for the means of, for example,

cleaning the rust off something, burn it all down to rebuild the communist utopia. But it is not the case. When we clean the rust off something, we say definitively, here is our plan. I need to strip this vehicle down, clean the parts and reconstruct it. Certainly they would make that argument if they had a plan,

if they could actually articulate what they're doing. There are two scenarios. Two little boys have toy trucks. One little boy is unscrewing bolts and taking it apart. The other kid is smashing it with an aluminum baseball bat. You ask both of them what they're doing. The kid taking it apart slowly is saying, I need to clean the part so I can put it back together and it'll be shiny and new.

The other kid says, I need to take it apart so I can put it back together and it'll be shiny and new. And you go, but you've smashed the thing to smithereens with a baseball bat. It can't be put back together. And he says, I'm the good guy. Meanwhile, the other kid is carefully taking it apart and putting it back together. When you go to these leftists and these academics and they can't tell you a definitive plan, they're simply smashing and burning things. It's more akin to a kid bashing it with a baseball bat claiming he's doing good. That's exactly what a demon, a demonic force or evil would do. Trust me, I'm breaking this down to fix it as they burn everything into dust. And that would be like saying shit that supposedly would get you banned because it must be said,

that's just the smashing the fucking idea with a bat the people who go in the chat and are like have fuentes on don't be a coward have fuentes on why we just get banned what's the point i gotta say negative entropy you're talking about thoughts i think that as stuff comes out of the big bang the negative entropy is reducing the chaos so it's that's god that's the vortex that is pulling some of it back into order. And your thoughts are that same function. It's the fractal. We've gone through the Big Bang of our universe. We've coerced matter to form back into some order that we've come up to these complex systems of humans that now we're thinking and producing more negative entropy with these vortexual momentums.

I'm not sure exactly, but it seems like we're using our thoughts are God again, enacting negative entropy on the system. I think complexifying it. I think it's possible that the ultimate goal of life is to conquer entropy. Or I shouldn't say goal, but the function of life conquers entropy. The current scientific knowledge, we things that we think we know is that there will be a heat

death of the universe, that eventually all particles will be evenly spaced out from each other. But imagine, if you will, a machine perfectly composed that drifts around and absorbs free particles. Perhaps it would take 100 million years for this machine to absorb a single electron between electrons. But in the scale of the universe, does that time frame really matter if this thing has ended entropy? The heat of the universe happens, but a great machine exists that still functions with perfect order within the chaos and can take that free energy and ultimately restructure it regardless of what the entropy is.

So my view is if life does build this, and we do create these machines that don't need to use energy as they drift aimlessly for 100 million years, and only need to activate every 560 billion years, then they would resist entropy, they would resist the breakdown, they would be able to absorb the free particles. And then once they absorbed enough of them, maybe it would take 670 quadrillion years. It would then replicate itself. And thus entropy is defeated. The heat of the universe only goes so far and negative entropy is now functioning at a higher level than entropy. Is that a black hole? No. But it might be because black holes apparently at the center of our sun is a black hole and there's a layer of plasma around it. Black holes are hyperconcentrations.

The heat death is when a single particle is evenly spaced out from every other particle. But when they're reducing the entropy of the heat death, that might be the black holes vortex that's actually withdrawing the heat death expansion. It's slowing it down and pulling it towards itself, which is why we're getting stars out of them. There's, I believe it's what, Hawking's radiation? Yeah, Hawking's radiation. Black holes are emitting radiation. They're breaking apart. There's, I believe it's Hawking's radiation? Yeah, Hawking's radiation. Black holes are emitting radiation. They're breaking apart.

Very slowly, but they're a part of the heat death of the universe. They'll dissolve. Trillions of years, but they'll dissolve. Nassim Harriman just proposed that our sun has a black hole at the center of it. That's not... He just posted it yesterday. He's got math to back... I didn't read the math yet, but he said he has the math. I think there's a paper just written about that.

He said that there's a black hole at the center, and then there's a layer of plasma around it, rotating plasma field around the black hole. It's worth looking into, that's for sure. We should go to colors. He said that every celestial body has a black hole at the center of it. Well, there's a theory that planet nine's actually a primordial black hole somewhere out in the... Because I think there's something... I know Pluto is actually planet nine, but you know what they're saying is that there's something larger.

Not anymore. I will never give up Pluto. Justice for Pluto always. Yeah. But you know, there's something way out in our solar system that they think is at least the mass of Neptune that's large enough to be disrupting orbits and things of the Oort cloud, et cetera. I think it's another planet we haven't seen yet or a primordial black hole, which could be...

Just devouring entropy? Well, no, just creating enough gravitational pull that it's screwing up all sorts of orbits that shouldn't look like the way they do for Kuiper Belt objects, etc. Daryl! How you doing, buddy? Doing pretty good.

How are y'all tonight? I'm alright, man. We are also doing good. We do good every day. This has been one wild ride of a show tonight, but my question is for Tim and the rest of the crew. With the decline in production quality evident in the Boeing situation, as well as the epidemic of mechanical knowledge leaving the industry in the form of closing machine shops and engine builders, why does it feel like we're watching Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged play out in real time?

Because you're right. It is. I've already had this conversation with some people. They're just like, do you want to gulch gulch? And I was like, let's fucking go, baby. Like I was talking about this before the show, it's like running IRL is extremely difficult. All industry is, you look at all these businesses, and it's a small handful of people that make the machine run.

And it's a large network of people that handle smaller tasks that contribute to the machines running, but it's disproportionate. This is why it's funny when the far left is like, why are CEOs getting paid so much? Because the machine doesn't work without them. Like it is gnarly. People don't get it. The boonies new show, right? Um, we're trying to do vlog style reality with skate fun shenanigans and, uh, build this brand around family friendly entertainment. Uh, one way to put it is dude perfect meets nitro circus. Instead of throwing a football through a hoop, we will backflip through the hoop. And so we want to have that kind of fun.

There's no amount of people you can hire to solve the problem of making it run. You need a creative director. You need a high-level person who gets paid a lot of money, who has the vision and the know-how to make it work. And that's it. Nothing else matters. Sure. You need the assistance of, you need the characters who are going to be involved. Sure. You need the cameras, but if there's no person who can tell you the plots of ABC for the video, the video doesn't happen. The content doesn't happen. The sales don't happen. And then there are some people that can steer the ship and there's

some people that can mop the floors. Certainly you need someone to mop the floors. That's a respectable position. Someone's got to do it. But it's low skill. A lot of people will be able to do it. Very few people will be able to pilot that ship. I think Iran was very much correct with Atlas Shrugged.

I think that if all of the high level – I certainly think there's a lot of like VPs and senior staff at big corporations we could do without. But if all the CEOs of this country just said, we out, this country would collapse overnight. Yeah. So follow up to that, then at what point do we begin to walk away in the same manner that they did? And is Elon Musk going to be our modern day Dagny Tiger? He's going to bring us on mars what if what if elon was like okay so um we're going to colonize mars and if you pass our test then uh you will live on mars for free and uh it's going to be great and there will be video games and then it's, the test is basically not even, it's not a knowledge test. It's they put you in a room with a bunch of stuff in it and they leave. And the test

is simply, what do you do in this room? Some people will look around and they'll see like a jigsaw puzzle that's not done. And there'll be a Rubik's cube that's not done. There will be some building blocks. And then there will be some, you know, like video games or something. And the real test is, what do you get done when you have time on your hands? How do you choose to use it? The real test is, if you want to live on Mars, you don't need to be the smartest person in the world. You need to be, like they put a mop in the corner too. You just need to be someone who decides of your own volition i will produce whatever that might be and so there could be a computer with like code

listed on the screen and like a and they're just like we're gonna put you in this room and we want to just uh have you wait some people will do nothing i was told the producers are the wealthy the ones that become wealthy and that was in the entertainment industry they're like if you want don't be an actor don't be be a writer, be a producer. But that tracks with what you're saying. You just produce shit. That is the essence of creation. Some people will go in and they'll see the unfinished puzzle

and they're just going to go right to it and be like, you know, while I'm waiting. Some people will do nothing. And they'll just sit there and they'll look around and they'll diddle on their phones. And then Elon comes in and is like, well uh this was a test as you were waiting and we we noticed that you did nothing and so we just think that it probably wouldn't be good for you to be on mars because uh you would be bored and um you don't produce enough and then he comes

another room and there's a guy who like built the blocks a little like a little chair or something and he says like oh you built a chair why did you build the chair and the's a guy who like built the blocks, a little, a like a little chair or something. And he says like, Oh, you build a chair. Why did you build the chair? And the guy's just like, well, I was bored and I was waiting.

So I got, you know, got to do something right. It's like, welcome to Mars. Someone's like cleaning the room. He's like, you can come.

Absolutely. Someone's like, I noticed that there was dust on the floor and there was a broom over there. So I figured while I was waiting, I might as well clean up. I'd probably welcome to Mars. I'd start cleaning. I think.

Yeah. Yeah. If, if, if I was in a waiting room and I saw like something that was waiting, I might as well clean up. Welcome to Mars. I'd start cleaning, I think. If I was in a waiting room and I saw something that was like a bottle spilt or garbage, I'd pick it up. I'd probably try to... I'd go to the building blocks.

I'd immediately start building stuff. Some people would just... And then you have other things like magazines. And if they're reading magazines and you're going to be like, I don't know that that's really something we need on Mars right now for our colony. We need people who want to build and make things and fix things and keep things running. But, you know, while it's certainly important to know, this is a gossip magazine. We don't think you're a good fit for Mars. I would have made the puzzle and then I would have put it on the wall and tried to make it like a painting.

But then I'd be like, shit, I got nothing to tack it on with. And I would have looked around, and I might have wasted too much time looking around for something to tack it up with. I got to let go of that obsession with getting it done the way I want to get it done and just do the shit that needs to be done. Thank you, Elon. The worst thing in the world would be going to Mars and then having 10 people who don't want to do anything. Because they're going to be like, I deserve food. And you're going to be like, but you're not doing anything. Like we have to work every day to make sure the machines work and we

survive. And then what happens is they go, why are you in charge? And then you get a communist revolution and then everyone stars. The March and communist revolution. Mars colony lasts one week. You teach your kids to like, to enjoy doing stuff,

give them building blocks and then tell them they're doing a good job and that they made a really cool thing when they make it. It's because you don't have to teach the kids. Otherwise, they'll do nothing. Yeah. Anything you want to add to that, Daryl? No, I think that was perfect. It sounds like you're saying that Elon isn't Dagny Taggart. Elon's actually Francisco D'Ancona, which sets me up for the perfect question

that I'm not going to ask for an answer to, but I am going to ask the question, if Elon's Francisco D'Ancona, who is John Galt? Still trying to figure that one out. I never saw the movie. I never read the book. Thanks for having me on. You all have a wonderful night. Thank you so much.

What we're seeing with a lot of these wealthy people is they're building bug out centers like Mark Zuckerberg's Island. RuPaul also. Really? RuPaul. Okay, so, you know,

RuPaul, I think, my personal opinion is a closet conservative and Republican because he often, like, will say things about, like, not being a victim and he's definitely, like,

of that generation of, like, a libertine mentality. And, of course, he bouts the woke mob every second he has to because that's his bread and butter is obviously like gay lefties. But his husband, he's like, RuPaul owns like this massive $68,000 fracking ranch in Wyoming. And he's building like a like a prepper shelter because he thinks a civil war is coming. It was interesting during COVID to see this. You know, you saw this wave of people leaving California. I think Mark Wahlberg maybe went to Utah or something. But there were quite

a number of celebrities that maybe you wouldn't have expected who were like, and Wyoming, which, you know, shout out to Wyoming. I feel like it just has a reputation as being sort of a bug out state. Yeah. I was thinking El Salvador could be a good place to go just to figure out how to build a new government. And so we can get some experience before we go to Mars. Well, there were tons of people during COVID going to like, well, I mean, what were the countries in? I guess El Salvador was maybe more, it was before Bukele. I guess it was socialist before, wasn't it? Yeah, I think it was. Socialist governments in South America that were welcoming COVID refugees from the U.S.

who were more liberal, but were against the mandates and everything, and they were going to socialist countries, which you think would have been more strict on their populations about lockdowns, but they weren't. Should we go to the next caller? We should indeed.

All right. Fawn Fatale. I don't know about your bill, Tom. I'm sorry. Oh, that's sad big here serge how are you guys doing tonight well all right thank you energize yeah and i agree about the rupaul thing that's totally true so let me get to my question um since we already learned that any quote-unquote agency is able to give documentation to these aliens to vote, we've now discovered that if you look at

USC 18 section 611c3, the exception to them being prosecuted if they do vote is null and void as long as they believe they were eligible to vote as a citizen. And they're all being registered to vote as they come across during processing. So why would they not believe they're eligible to vote? And what do we do about this other than like harassing our representatives? I mean, we need big voices like NTG or Matt Gates to shout this out and bring it to the forefront because we need somebody like Tucker. This can't stand. I mean, they're going to totally ruin the country. Tucker talked about this, that there's a law that says that it's not that it's not criminal if they thought legitimately they had the right to vote. The argument, of course, is that we would remove those votes.

The problem, of course, if there's too many, you won't know. Yeah, it would be impossible for federal law enforcement to track down. And the funny thing is, too, let's let's run a check on the H.A.V.Vv system which uh we haven't seen in in a bit and hey ladies and gentlemen they've begun reporting again look at this let's take a look at may 4th and see where we're at and the ha oh still fucking insane wow look at that up there there was missouri once again what oh, what is this? Texas, all of a sudden, is very low. North Dakota is weird.

HAVV is the Help America Vote Verification System, where if someone tries to register to vote without an ID, the Social Security Administration has to verify their number. And these are all of their quests that go through. So in the past week, it's been 251,000 attempts, of which 1,000 are dead. Oh, but before it would be like half were dead. I mean, it would be a gigantic percentage were coming up dead. And then we talked about it on the show like day after day after day, and then all of a sudden they stopped reporting.

They stopped reporting. Wow. Well, here's Texas, 250,000 in one week. Wow. HAVV says this is only for new registrants texas said it's clearly a mistake i think it was missouri i can't remember i think they said we're doing voter roll cleaning neither of these make sense so i gotta tell you if biden wins this country is fucked yeah but it's on purpose yeah Yeah. It'd be crazy.

It'd be crazy. I think everybody needs to get in that Catherine Engelbrecht IV3 thing that sets you up so you can help to check the roles in your own state. Because it's always too late by the time everybody figures this shit out. It's always too late.

Yep. And I had surgery, so I'm a graceful swan again for a little while all right hey lovely back on crutches yeah yeah i know but hopefully i'll be back on two feet again soon yeah this is your recovery to go back to your question this is a big challenge because i don't know if we have an answer i don't i don't know i don't i don't have one either yeah um gulch gulch it up that's where i'm happy that's something that's on my mind exactly

well hey thank you very much you guys thank you thanks for calling in see you appreciate it cheers oh good job sorry about that uh shadowbox design how you doing buddy doing good how are you guys doing tonight i see the uh the show might have had a little oopsie there today. Yeah, whoopsie daisies. You guys splooged all over the fucking airwaves. All right. Well, my question, we'll get right to it. My question is, because of rape exemptions to abortion in many states, I'm interested in seeing how you all would solve this moral quandary.

In a state that allows such exemptions, what would happen if a man was raped by a woman and she became pregnant? Would he then have the right to force her to get an abortion or would he have no rights in that situation? They wouldn't observe him as having rights, to be honest. You know, no state would. The thing is, I think fathers are really important. And I think the conversation around like men and their role in the conversation about in abortions is important. I think there are a lot of men who feel obligated to say, oh, it's your body. Do whatever you want and don't feel comfortable saying to their partner, I don't want you to get an abortion. But in that case, you know, number one, I think it'd be really difficult to prosecute to prove that the man had been raped. Not because he didn't.

He wasn't just because this is unfortunately the standard that we have right now. And I think on top of that, they would just be like, you don't have any claim. It's her body and she gets to what she wants. The main reason I ask is because I'm I'm 100 percent against abortion, like in all situations, except for like I think we need to redefine the term in some situations where people say like medical procedures are abortions. I think we should redefine that so that abortion just means like intentional killing of a child. But I guess it's just such a weird question because those situations happen very rarely, but they like to bring up the edge cases a lot for making exceptions. So Louisiana just sorry, you know, no, go ahead. Louisiana has this bill that just got blocked by a committee, I think the House Justice Committee, this was today, that a lawmaker had said, she proposed it a year ago, Louisiana's very strict abortion ban.

And she said, well, what about in the case of rape and incest? And it got denied last year. She brought it up again, but this time with the amendment that it would only be an exception for girls who are 17 and under. So if a minor is raped and becomes pregnant, if it's a product of incest, that person can get an abortion. The only exceptions that Louisiana has right now is if it would cause,

if the pregnancy will fatally kill the mother or the pregnancy is considered medically inviolable, meaning like, you know, if the baby's developing without lungs, like you can't suddenly make there be lungs, that baby is not going to make it. And so this, once again, the committee denied this exception because the Republicans were saying, well, like, I would, one of them in particular had really harsh language. She was like, I would, I have daughters, I have granddaughters, I would want to hang a man who did that from the streets. But I don't believe that you should kill an innocent life. So I think part of all of it is like, the division between when you see the beginning of life, and also

the reality that these cases are often brought up as, you know, as like, but what about this hypothetical, and that hypothetical doesn't occur enough for us to have a legal backlog to try. There's actually a really simple solution to all of this. When a woman comes in for an abortion, what you do is you medically induce a coma so she has no idea what happened and she's instantly out with no experience of it. Then she is detained until her body gives birth,

but she can't remember. And then you take her out of the medically induced coma. She wakes up and she goes, what happened? You go, you had an abortion. And she goes, great. And has no idea the baby is healthy, alive, and in safe hands. I think they used to. With the Catholic Church.

Super safe. I think they used to have women who would give birth while under pretty serious sedation, if I'm not wrong. You might fuck the baby up. It seems crazy. I mean, that seems – but birth sounds very difficult too, so who knows? I mean, with his example of female and male rape, it is extremely rare, except actually what – the most common form of female and male rape is pedophilia and pederasty. And there are cases

of teachers who get pregnant in this scenario. Yeah. There was just a movie made about that based on a real case. She had a kid. Letourneau.

Was that it? It's not Marianne. Julianne Moore. And it's like a movie that just came out called, what is it called? But it was a real case where the teacher had,

you know, a child with a 12 year old or something like that and then they end up getting she went to jail and they end up getting married yeah and they had a second kid and they had her last name's a turn on camera yeah yeah i think you're right yeah that there's there's a couple of those stories i mean it happens i mean happens a lot i mean if you look at the news right now those stories of female teachers engaging uh minor males in sexual activity is is it almost feels like it's becoming uh more rampant on the other hand,

as we become more fascinated by it, we'll see more reporting on it. So it's a hard, it's click central. I mean, yeah. I mean, there's just a case where the teacher was like a month away from her

wedding and was having to fare with like her 11 year old male student. It's gross. Yeah. Couldn't find a name for it. I'm looking up Julianne Moore teacher, rip movie, rape. Nothing came up. It's a new, it i'm looking up julianne moore teacher rip movie rape nothing came up it's a new it's fairly new um it's actually an interesting movie someone maybe

watch it it's the way it's done is really cinematically it's kind of well done um was that may december may december that's what it is yep it's based on that case shout out to ai for finding that answer for me yeah Yeah. Was that good? Do you want to add anything else to that question? Yeah, I've just got to add one thing. So, Mr. Tim, can I call you Mr. Cast? Because I know that's your last name, Tim Cast. Real quick.

I saw it last. There was a funny thing where I saw Corey Mills, and I was in Florida, and I was like, I have your number, right? I'll hit you up. And he's like, yeah. And he was like, I don't think I have your number. I was like, you don't have my number? And so I was like, and I was like, I have your number, right? I'll hit you up. And he's like, yeah. And he was like, I don't think I have your number. I was like, you don't have my number? And so I was like, let me call you because I got your number. And then my name popped up in his phone.

It's Tim space cast. And he went, oh, shit. Anyway, it continues there. But I was just going to ask you. So yesterday on the show, you were giving away money for rent. And you said someone should ask you for money for something stupid and see if you should just give it to them. So I need $2,200 for night vision for some training I'll be doing in July and September. That's too much.

So, I mean, if you want to give me the money, I'd appreciate it. That one's too much. Like, I think I paid two people's rent last night. Inspired by Trump's generosity, I paid the rent. That's what I'm talking about. That's what Jesus is talking about. And then some guy said, I need $10, and I sent him $10. I was like, $10 is easy. I can sweeten the deal. I'll give you a shout-out on my Instagram.

Okay, you'll get a shout-out from the world-famous shadow boxes I have over here. $2,200, too much. We love ambition. That's great. Thanks for calling in. Yep, I'll see you see it thanks man if you don't ask the answer is no cheers yeah and another way to ask it is always ask you might not have to buy your dinner well liberty son 1776 how are you how's it going guys it's all right all right so my question is uh

if you have you heard about uh holton township uh michigan and the uh declaration of them becoming a sanct it's to a sanctuary um and they also um what you call it, created their first, the township created their first volunteer militia. What do you guys think about that? Guns and Gadgets on YouTube actually created or made an episode on his YouTube channel. My first thought is that it's your legal right to form a militia in the United States. So it sounds like they're exercising their rights. I don't know enough about it, though. Seems like a cool idea, but I'd have to see what 2A sanctuary means.

Yeah, Western Maryland is, but do you really trust it? Like the sheriffs might not arrest you, but the state troopers will. Are you a 2A guy? I'm definitely a 2a guy i'm definitely a 2a guy uh what you call um i'm part of the because i'm out of pennsylvania and uh so i follow on and i'm a member of a pennsylvania firearms association so right on cool chadwick are you are you 2a i support the 2a absolutely i'm not i'm a i'm a 2a you're not a collector i mean i live in new york city so it's illegal the two the second doesn't exist there you support from afar do you of course yeah ideologically 100 do people have

the right to keep and bear nuclear weapons nuclear arms do i think they should have the right to do they do they have the right yeah well i guess they do they do do they have the right to? Do they? Do they have the right? Yeah. Well, I guess they do. They do. Do they have the right to keep and bear biological arms? I don't know. I guess they would. The answer is yes. They would, yeah.

The Founding Fathers did not make a distinction. Privateers had great shot. They were private frigates. They were corsairs. It was commonplace for private individuals to have warships that would go under contract when need be. So the idea that today you can't, the important thing to understand, these weapons manufacturers are private entities that make nuclear weapons. So the funny thing is I ask politicians and they go, no, no, that's not the case. And I'm like, so you would be in favor of banning like Northup Grumman and, you know, what's another big one? Boeing. They do weapons.

Raytheon, of course. So you'd be in favor of banning them from making nukes? That's a bold statement. But they're private entities. I think Boeing makes weapons. The protections that allow them to do it are the same protections that we have. Corporations are people.

My friend. Corporations are people, my friend. That was Yeah. Corporations are people, my friend. That was so fucked up. That was the stupidest thing. Really? He's like, he said it because it's legally true, but the way he said it was like it was supposed to be legally true. And that was like.

You don't say corporations are people. No. Corporations are legal entities that function as a legal entity, the same as a person can function as a legal entity. Yep. Yeah. Like these entities that I saw on DMT, they were like persons, but I wouldn't call them people. I'm struggling with that right now. They had personality. Yeah, like these entities that I saw on DMT. They were like persons, but I wouldn't call them people.

I'm struggling with that right now. They had personality. Yeah. Not the corporations, dude. Yeah, corporations are less people than these demons. Give another shout out to RFK saying he would eat five more brain worms.

That was a good tweet. That was a good one. Was there anything else you wanted to add, sir? No. The reason I mentioned this is um other than guns and gadgets and my uh um the uh state um advocacy uh group i i haven't heard anything mentioned in the mainstream media about it so i wanted to mention it on here if I could. Please do. Right on. All right.

Thank you, guys. Cool. Thanks for calling in. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Is that everybody? Yep. Wow, what a fun night for what it's worth.

I think we just put this whole thing up on iTunes and Spotify then, huh? There you go, Calum. I love it. Yeah, I think we can probably just combine it with the first portion like we normally do. The rules for iTunes and Spotify are like YouTube is the only one that will shit all over the place over this stuff. As we were doing it, I was like, what if we just did this show on TimCast.com? We'd go out of business. You had to pay $10 a month. I don't know.

You might get like 10,000 new subscribers. We'd go out of business. Part of it is like to reach other people, right? Subscriber growth is slow and moderate and is based off the fact that YouTube, not well, but we do get new people who share the show and can see the show for free of charge. And then eventually a small port. Look, we consistently in the winter, it's like we're getting 50, 000 concurrence and these people aren't signing up to become members they never do and uh we like it so when

it gets warm like we're in may everyone wants to go outside and they're partying on friday nights so we're now doing like 37 38 000 yeah these people are not becoming members they're like they're hardcore and like if there was nowhere to see it except on TimCast.com, a lot of those people would pay. And then we would lose all of our ad revenue. We would lose all of our sponsorships. And the company would run out of money and go to business. Sponsorships. Yeah, sponsorships might.

So talking with Rumble, because I keep saying top men, but the deal that Rumble is offering doesn't cover the costs. And here's a fact for you. Being on Rumble with our clips probably cost us a couple million dollars a year. So if you go to Rumble, actually, I don't think I can pull it up right now because we're using it. And you look at like how many views we get per clip. It's like 30 to 40,000. That's like each video is probably two to $500 lost. And no disrespect to Rumble.

We do it because we know Rumble needs to win because how fucked YouTube is. But that means when we decided to put our clips on Rumble, the company instantly lost a couple million dollars in revenue overnight. The moment because tons of people are like, I want to support Rumble and watch on Rumble. And they should, and they do. And Rumble videos don't make money. So those viewers who left YouTube, we now no longer make money for those, for those clips. So we lost a substantial amount of revenue. And so this is what I have to talk to Chris about.

I'm like, we shift our entire show to Rumble and make no money we're out of business and so he's like we're negotiating like how could rumble handle this and so there is a deal i don't want to give their business away or talk about what they are or aren't able to offer but ultimately go through it talk to our lawyers and it's like yeah we'd be out of business in two years if we took the deal we we we rely on the ad revenue that comes from YouTube's programmatic ads and, and, and, and that's it. Like we, we, we don't sell well on, on the Rumble platform. I suppose the alternative is like we do direct sales and say, Hey, look, we're getting 50,000 views on these Rumble clips and sell and do direct sales with an ad sales rep,

which is what companies used to do. So it's like, we are trying to navigate these solutions and we've got a few people who negotiate deals and stuff like this. So, you know, it is what it is. It is what it is. Uh, when YouTube took down our two biggest shows, I immediately reached out to a bunch of networks and, uh, the ultimate conclusion was nobody can afford what YouTube subsidizes. The show would not exist in its form without YouTube being subsidized by Google. That's reality. So we can break it all down and turn the show into like a Zoom show. Those are cheap and easy to fund.

But I got to be honest. I think what makes this show work is that people are here in person hanging out and talking. And I can break it down. Why do we have guests? Well, for one, having guests is a good idea because you mix things up a little bit and the show is different every day. But when we invite a guest on, the guest is actually promoting us. That's the point. There's two big points to having a guest. The first, we have a better show and you have different voices and you engage in arguments and debates and things like that. The second is, when we invite someone who's got a million

subscribers, like the guy who's coming on tomorrow has apparently got like a million subscribers, he's coming here because he wants to send his message to our audience. And we also know that his audience will also come to watch and we to our audience. And we also know that his audience will also come to watch and we get shared exposure. It's a collaboration. So guests also function as a marketing tool for the show. If the show was just, you know, we hang out and it's the same people every single time, it wouldn't grow as much. So having people in person hanging out and rotating guests is what makes the show work. So that's what it is.

That's what it is. It's hard. It's hard. Yeah, it feels like, I don't know, I keep talking and talking, but it feels like YouTube's got their finger, just enough pressure on it so that the show doesn't pop off. Because it's been at like 35K consistent. Like, come on, dude, this show is 150,000 consistent.

We, if, if it was promoted to the front page of YouTube aggressively, we have hundreds of thousands of people in real time watching this shit. And it's like, they're just holding just enough so that to get by to not jump the platform. If, if YouTube put IRL on the default, the,

the air gapped front page, meaning open a brand new laptop, click YouTube. It's always Mr. Beast. We'd have 70 million views per episode. Easily. Yeah, that's why Mr. Beast has so many views.

Not because his videos are the best videos in the world, they're moderately entertaining reality TV, but it's because YouTube puts them on the default. That's it. Motion, yeah. Only reason. Yep. So, but anyway, that's it for the day. That being said, I think there's no issue with anything Ian and I talked about for iTunes or Spotify.

They have no rules really around any of that stuff. And Rumble. So we should also put this up on Rumble too. We'll figure it out. Chadwick, thanks for hanging out. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. Yeah, and all the shenanigans.

You want to shout anything out? You can find me at ChadwickMoore.com on XChadwick underscore Moore. And you can get Tucker, the biography of Tucker Carlson at Tuckerthebook.com. Anywhere you get your books, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, all those places. Great to see you, man. Yeah, great to see you too. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that everybody who's already watching already follows me on Timcast. Ambo says, are you sure there isn't a way

to get 18 to 25-year-old viewers and get them involved in the conversation? Of course there is. The issue is, it is a difficult task of finding learned, wise 18 to 25-year-olds. They exist.

There are many of them. But they're harder to come by. I think Mary Morgan's pretty crafty, pretty smart, so she'll be on more often, hopefully, she wants to come by. I think Mary Morgan's pretty crafty, pretty smart. So she'll be on more often, hopefully. She wants to be. And, you know, how old are you? You're not that old, right?

I'm 28. Yeah, see, she's almost 25. So I'm not quite in the age range, but I'm relatable. But genetically like 26 or 25. Thank you, Ian. But you say that to all the girls. No, no, no, just you, Hannah Clare. That is true, though.

So like we talk about this with all of the shows. You definitely want to bring in like a 20, like 21 year olds because you need that perspective, too. But anyway, we'll wrap it up there. Thanks for hanging out with this extended episode after the show got taken down. But you hung out. We appreciate it. Thanks for being members and making it possible. And we'll see you all tomorrow.