Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1023 BIDEN IMPEACHMENT FILED, GOP Files Saying Its THE SAME As Trump Ukraine w/Josh Smith
Episode Date: May 11, 2024Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil, & Serge are joined by Joshua Smith to discuss the GOP formally filing to impeach Joe Biden, Michael Rappaport flipping and withdrawing his endorsement of Joe Biden, RFK Jr wa...nting to legalize total abortion, and the insane solar storms hitting the Earth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Basically, Joe Biden said to Israel, do not engage in military actions, the ones that we don't want you to do.
Otherwise, we will not give you congressionally approved military aid, which he does not have the authority to do, according to Democrats.
And then he did withhold it when Israel or actually before they even went into Rafah.
So that's a quid pro quo. Why did he do it?
Well, he's getting attacked mercilessly
by many young Democrats
for his support of Israel.
And he's trying to signal that
he's on the right side of history,
whatever it is.
So he's desperate for those political points.
And now they filed for impeachment.
I don't know that actually goes anywhere.
But last night we were talking about
how they were preparing to impeach him.
Now they've actually,
it's been formally filed by Corey Mills.
We'll see if that actually goes anywhere.
We'll talk about that.
But the big news, of course, outside of that is Michael Rapoport has withdrawn his endorsement.
And as you know, that's a very big deal.
It's big enough in that, I mean, Rapoport, such a strong anti-Trump personality coming on the way he is, it's indicative of what we're seeing for a lot of different people. So we'll talk about that. But then I suppose the actual
real big story, which, you know, we probably could have led off with is the X-class solar flare
that is barreling towards Earth has already made contact in some places.
Europe is already seeing the Northern Lights, but they are red instead of green. So whip out
your biblical prophecies, prepare for a lesson in eschatology, but they're red instead of green. So whip out your biblical prophecies.
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people are like,
hey, there's some weird stuff going on here.
I'm like, well, you're in a haunted house.
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hundred and seventy years old the ceilings are like six five because
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Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
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Jeez, I messed it up today.
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I can't believe you messed that up.
Why?
It's your monologue.
It's who you are. It's the only thing. I thought that was your
whole name at one point. I'm Hannah
Goodrimble. I'm a writer for SCNR.com.
I'm tonight's diversity hire here
to represent women.
Fulfill all the Title IX requirements. Hi, Serge.
Hello. Yeah, let's
get started, Tim. Here's the big news,
I guess. You know, we'll definitely,
I think the solar flare might be bigger news, but when they file to impeach the president, I feel like you
can't ignore it. And I got to be honest, I feel kind of bored with it. OK, so we all know Biden.
He's being accused of a quid pro quo. He he tells Israel, if you invade Rafah, I'm not going to give
you the military aid, which is beyond his capabilities
as president, because Congress has already approved the aid to be delivered to Israel.
I'm not saying we like that. But Joe Biden doesn't have the authority to unilaterally
deny Congress having voted to pass this aid. That is one branch acting like they can do so much more.
Now, don't get me wrong. The president sets foreign policy and the president, in my opinion,
actually could do this.
But the standard has been set by Democrats when they impeached Donald Trump for doing the exact same thing.
Because Trump said to Ukraine, we're not going to give you the aid.
We want to know what's going on.
And then Ukraine said, OK.
And that's it.
He's impeached.
So now Joe Biden's got to go.
And then we can have, I don't know, Kamala Harris, I guess.
Oh, geez.
Stop.
Please, God, no.
People are going to jump into the why.
They're going to jump into the, oh, well, it was different because Donald Trump did this.
Or it was different because blah, blah, blah.
There's already people beginning to make that argument on Twitter.
And the why does not matter.
The fact of the matter is that Congress approved the shipments.
Whether you like them or not congress did and then the president
threatened to intercede in those shipments because of politics and the president does not have the
authority to do that so if you're going to impeach the uh donald trump donald trump for it you got
to impeach joe biden for it or at least there is justification to impeach joe biden listen and i
say good for the republicans for doing it because F the Democrats.
I'm not going to do what past libertarian candidates
have done and say they're great public servants,
but I'm riding with Biden on this one.
Because look, I believe the president should have the power,
even if they don't, I believe they probably do,
have the power to veto spending bills.
And to me, it's a spending bill.
And the AUMF has given the president the power
to direct our military all over the world
for you know decades now anyways so like it's good good for biden good for biden i'm glad that
biden is deciding not to send any more of my taxpayer money to wars that i don't can he do
it to all wars god i sure wish we just eliminate all the wars that'd be perfect but he won't do
that i would like to see it stopped well i suppose that i should say um i got to agree i'm i am also
riding with biden on this one you're all right you're live well because because let's talk
principally um when donald trump said that he's gonna withhold military aid i think that's fine
yeah i think the president negotiating with foreign countries needs to have the executive
authority over our military and how we align and ally with other countries congress saying we
approve this being sent,
I believe ultimately goes to the president
to make the determination in these negotiations
with foreign leaders.
That means the same would apply for Biden.
But if we're gonna be,
if we're saying this is the standard that has been set
and you wanna play ball, we'll play ball, that I get.
But I also disagree with impeaching Joe Biden
in any capacity.
Because we are six months away from an election,
he is poised to lose
on the merits and we don't need to give them any more advantages. So right now, the real issue for
the election is the shadow campaign, whatever it may be. I don't know, but there certainly is one.
And Biden is a bucket of concrete strapped to the legs of the Democratic Party. I'm I don't think
it's wise the GOP decide to help take that bucket of concrete off their legs
as they're trying to swim this victory.
It's funny that we live in a world
where impeachments are now like PR positives for presidents.
Don't do it because it's going to help them.
But then that happened to Trump.
Like when he got impeached, his support went up.
Of course, yes.
Which is also hilarious
because there's no way that happens with Biden, right?
If he gets impeached,
they're like everyone who's running away from his ship is already going to be like yeah see i told you he
was a bad guy look the thing about the thing about trump and god bless him for doing this is one of
the greatest things that trump did was he made people hate the corporate news media like absolutely
that was one of the greatest things of the trump presidency and so like of course when the news
media started going in on him on this impeachment everybody's like yeah screw them you know um but
this is this is just a ploy by by the democrats because to slide somebody else
in there right before the election there's no doubt about it sure sure but let's talk about
my favorite thing ever and i can't believe it's been 10 it's been almost 10 years the well done
steak with ketchup it was trump you know trump knows what he's doing oh geez so a 30-day dry agedday dry-aged steak, and they said, Mr. Trump, how would you like it?
And he says, well done, with a side of ketchup.
And Trump, I've been to Mar-a-Lago.
The man knows how to eat a steak.
You don't have a club like that without understanding culinary standards.
The way people dress, the dress codes.
No, he did this because he knew the
media would make fun of him and then middle america would be like that's how i have my
so we eat our steak here why are they making fun of trump they're not making fun of trump they were
making fun of the people when they did that right yeah no i think that that was the point in which
i really understood the amount of troll yeah that trump was was that was that and then the
kafefi meme as well.
You can't ever forget that.
You woke up, that was in the morning too.
You woke up and you're like, what the hell?
And you're like, Oh, you know, he, I know what's going on.
You know, he learned a lot by being in front of a camera on reality TV, knowing like, if
I just do this one thing, I can tweak the entire media sphere.
Of course.
So that's what all this, I mean, most of it.
He always, since the day he started flirting with the idea of announcing his run for presidency has controlled the media cycle,
right? I mean, it lives and thrives off of what Trump does in part because they hate him so much
they can't look away, which is sort of hysterical, but also because he knows that he is a bigger
personality than anybody else on both sides of the aisle, including Joe Biden, who's like
barely with us as far as I can tell.
It's really interesting to me.
And maybe that's because of his reality TV background.
But I also think you are just born that way.
There are some people with this kind of charisma.
This version of Joe Biden is almost not with us.
Who knows if it's the same one?
I agree.
Whichever one is there.
The Kafefi thing was great because what did he say uh despite the negative uh uh me despite the
negative uh uh it was like despite the negative the media kafafi yeah or something and then there
were people actually uh i think cassandra actually wrote this and it was like kafafi is arabic for i
will stand and i'm like come. Someone potato fingers to the phone
and then accidentally hit send.
That's all that happened.
And then Trump responded with like,
what could it mean?
Yeah.
And he's just loving it.
He's just laughing.
I'm in charge.
I'm living in all of your heads rent free.
If it was a fat thumb thing,
he would have taken it down.
I mean, there's no doubt.
I don't know.
It was a fat thumb thing.
I think he likes it.
I think he likes it.
It's a clown playing 40 chess,
but it's not 40 chess. I still believe that he did it on purpose. You think he wrote Cuff Faffy? Yeah. I don't. No. I don't think he did it. It's a clown playing 4D chess. But it's not 4D chess.
You think he wrote Kaffefi?
I don't think he did on purpose.
I do think that he just left it.
He's like, it makes people talk. It's funny.
He started laughing when he realized how it was trending.
And he was like, what could it mean?
I also think this is the difference
between a president.
People point out that Joe Biden's the oldest president.
Trump is older, right? He's like 78 now. But he actually loves social media. He loves it. He loves Twitter.
He thinks it's great. He started, you know, he started to social. Whereas Joe Biden, I don't
think ever was really in charge of his own social media account. And so he doesn't have any way to
message himself. He is completely dependent on whatever Gen Z staffer. They're like,
you must know about the internet. You write tweets his hands don't work nothing works his legs work separate of the rest of his body yeah he's like a lobster yeah yeah that's
true i uh look for my own candidacy for president a lot of people are like oh you're too rough you're
this you you're too much of a troll online i'm like did you not see donald trump in the white
house for four years man like what that's what people want now. They want,
they want somebody that's going to say dumb shit like that all the time, you know? So I miss it.
I think it's personality. I think people want to feel like there is someone with decisiveness and
who has a personality. Whereas I think everyone sort of feels, even if, you know, registered
Democrats are like, yeah, Joe Biden's there, but he's more of the amalgamation of whatever his staffers are doing.
He's not enough of a personality to feel like a leader, and he's not present enough in anyone's
mind to really feel like an inspirational candidate.
Yeah, I don't think anybody in the United States believes that Joe Biden is running
the country right now.
Well, I don't think anyone looks at him and says, yes, I want that guy as he is in the
White House.
I think they're like, well, I guess I have to vote for him.
I think it's magic.
You know, I think it's Trump.
When he walks in a room,
he has an aura just coming out of him.
And you can see it when he's somewhere.
The way people act around him,
it's the weirdest thing.
Some people just have it, the X factor.
I don't mean literal magic.
There's like something about him
you can't put your finger on.
Call it the X factor.
Call it whatever it is.
Some people have it. Some people don't. Not a single Democrat's like something about him. You can't put your finger on, call it the X factor, call it whatever it is. Some people have it.
Some people don't.
Not a single Democrats got it.
Trump's got too much.
And there's a bunch of Republicans
out a little bit,
but it's just like Trump's that guy
that everybody wants to tell a story to,
that everybody wants to talk to,
that everybody wants.
They want Trump to hear
what they have to say for some reason.
Don't know why.
Our guitar players like that. Mike,
everybody likes him. Everybody wants
to hang out with him and I can't figure out why.
He's been in the band 20 years. I hate to go.
Phil's like, why is he still here?
He's still here? Holy crap. Phil votes
him out every time. He's still there. All the time. Get out
of here. I call him stupid Mike Martin all the time.
He just shows back up and then
we all just let him stay.
He's bigger than me
He's big and strong too
So I can't say no
Are you being bullied in your own band?
Maybe a little bit
That's why Phil works out so much
One of these days Mike
One of these days
Before he had a kid
He used to work out
And I think his max bench was like 4 or 5
That's a lot
Stupid
So do people like him or are they just scared of him?
No, they really, like, it is weird.
Like, I've said it before.
He's got this weird charisma.
He's not super outgoing and he's not the kind of person that's really boisterous
and he's not the kind of person that goes out and socializes a lot.
But there's something about him when, like, people meet him,
they're just like, I like that guy.
And he's just got this charisma where people are like,
I want to go and hang out with that guy.
Is he from New York, Phil?
Is he from New York?
No, he's from Ludlow.
Oh, OK.
I think someone in the chat, they kind of explained it.
There's a new way to describe the energy that Trump has.
Riz.
Oh, the Riz.
He is Riz-en.
He has the Riz.
Yeah, the Riz, yeah.
My 12-year-old says that.
Do you think we're going to have fewer charismatic people
because we had a generation of kids?
Like, well, every generation is increasingly more online.
Well, no, I think I think the charisma died out when when comedy died out.
I mean, really, at the end of the day, it's like everything's any joke now is like off limits and offensive.
And like, you can't go out and have that aura anymore.
You're misogynist.
So I agree.
But I agree with you about comedy.
But I don't think the charisma has died off.
I still think that there is an innate amount of charisma.
And it's not just pretty privilege,
because again, like I said, Mike,
he's not what you would consider a good-looking dude.
So you don't like him and he's ugly.
Oh, jeez, dude.
I knew you were going to do this.
Is it his birthday?
Here's the thing.
Come on.
We used to have a whole generation of men
that wanted to have the riz. I mean, that was have a whole generation of men that wanted to have the wrist.
I mean, that was like people aspired, men aspired to have the wrist to be, to have swag.
And now they aspire to, you're talking about something different.
You're talking about something different than what I'm talking about.
So like Riz and cause, because what it sounds like is, is you're talking about things like
being able to interact and, and kind of like, uh, of like how to win friends and influence people.
Right.
Sure.
Yeah.
But the thing is there is a,
there is a certain amount of,
of just natural charisma that people have where you don't know why someone
walks into a room and you're like,
I like that guy.
And I don't know why.
Oftentimes it's associated with things like tall,
like height,
facial symmetry and stuff like that.
Not always. Sometimes it's not. And like and like i said mike mike isn't like a he's not a weird looking
guy but he's not a particularly handsome guy where you're like oh that would is a pretty dude like a
you know i think everybody knows that you know the moment trump steps out on that stage or appears on
the tv all the ladies are fainting and fainting themselves. He's the new Beatles. He's the Beatles.
He had that.
I mean, when he was younger, he had that.
Well, he also had a lot of money.
Well, I mean, at the end of the day, that's true.
But there are a lot of people with lots of money who are very awkward and weird.
Sure.
And they still have women fawning over them every day.
Money has never made anyone ugly.
Like, money has never made someone ugly.
Have you ever seen plastic surgery?
Have you ever seen an interview with Bill Gates before?
Bill Gates is a melting marshmallow.
Yeah, he's a goofy person.
Let's jump to this next story from SCNR.
Perhaps one of the most important and shocking things we've seen so far.
Michael Rapaport has withdrawn his endorsement for Joe Biden.
I can't believe it.
The esteemed comedian is now saying that he
will uh not be supporting biden he says i'm officially unendorsing joe biden i did so much
work on behalf of this soft serve ice cream eating i'm done uh like i want to give him a shout out
um the reason why his journey has been so incredible is because he's he's so vocal
he's so animated in his mockery of trump and now of biden and he is a funny guy um i think there's a p missing
from his two p is i guess i guess israel is more important to wrap a port than our democracy
well that's unfortunate but he's he's legit funny and even when he says voting for pig dick donald
trump is on the table it's funny and I can respect it.
But I think ultimately what we see here is the tides, they are a turning.
And there are a lot of people who are, this is not just about Mike Rapoport.
We were talking about the other day, Jewish voters who up until a week ago were anti-Trump
and for Joe Biden and endorsing him and bang, they're now pro-Trump.
Instantly anti-Biden
just on one issue overnight.
Well, I think the funny thing is, is that Biden has supported Israel way more than Trump
ever has ever.
And, and they're, I mean, at the end of the day, they're both pro Zionist and, and Trump
put the, uh, embassy in Jerusalem, right?
He did make big moves.
And Trump is the one who executive ordered the anti-Semitism definition.
Yeah, and he did the Abraham Accords.
Well, the Abraham Accords are good.
He was trying to do things that seemed
pro-Israel-ish.
Joe Biden's been voting to send money to
Israel for 40 years.
He made a career of this.
It's his career. I mean, he supported
Israel way more than Donald Trump ever has.
It's not even close.
Anything that pisses off the communists the nazis uh at the same time i'm kind of for it man so
if it hurts the democrats and it hurts the communists and it pisses off the nazis i'm like
all right i kind of you know i kind of like it because that all of that stuff is anti-american
bs so right i just think this is an example
of how many Americans feel betrayed by Biden.
It's why when people say,
we have empathy for loss of life in other places,
but we want you to focus on what's going on at home.
We are suffering here.
The border is way too open.
I cannot pay my bills.
None of that matters to Michael Rappaport at all.
No, but it's interesting because he's like,
I was on your side and I feel as though you've betrayed me.
Whatever his reasoning is, like, I think that's a sentiment that a ton of voters share right now.
It's not that they're in love with Donald Trump.
Maybe there are people who are won over.
But a lot of people are just like, Biden is the worst and he let me down.
Yeah.
Do you think this will be the thing that changes Rapaport to see other issues like that?
No.
Like if this is, you know, his Israel as his gateway drug into seeing other problems yeah this is this is a
one and done kind of thing like israel when it comes to like jewish people that are that are
generally liberal or leftist and they're like they were like oh this one issue this will be
the one and done they're not going to be him in like a brick suit at the border wall no i don't
i don't see campaigning i definitely don't see him you know being like build the wall build the wall
the the pro-zionist people the majority of the pro-zionist people in the united states are
liberal they just they just support pro-zionist republicans because they're pro-zionist well i
mean what do you mean by liberal like culturally and and they want i mean they want liberal in
an american sense or liberalism not liberal is in the classical okay that's not like neo-liberal open the entire border
so okay you just said neo-liberal sex changes you just said hold on you just said neo-liberal right
okay do you think of of libertarians as neo-liberal absolutely not
sitching at them you see anyways we lost we that term. We lost that term to the left. So there's neoliberal.
Neoliberal is a reference to like Democrat establishment corporatism.
That's what I think too.
But the classical term liberal was libertarianism.
I mean, the founders were classical liberals.
That's how they were.
But the left stole that term from us.
That's the problem with the right and libertarians is we've been losing the war on language for decades and decades and decades yeah but that's why neoliberal
exists right because liberal is a reference to that there's there's different facets of of
liberalism in classical liberalism traditional social liberalism and then you have neoliberalism
like you have neoconservatism it's the establishment uniparty garbage but this is what i
thought are they arguing neoliberal means libertarian so that's what they yeah there's no libertarian because
they they're saying that it's a new liberalism that's open markets and blah blah and i'm like
i'd never thought of now these guys are trying to take it back i always thought i always thought
of neoliberals as democrats right yeah you know and that like clinton hill exactly hillary clinton
so they were just as much the war machine as anything else.
Listen, I just watched the guy.
That was my perspective on it.
The guy who started the liberal caucus in the Libertarian Party, who's trying to bring
the, his name's Josh.
Josh, yeah.
He's trying to bring the term liberal back as neoliberal, as libertarian.
And then he's praising Bill Weld on social media today.
Okay.
That guy sat on the board of CFR.
Like, come on, man.
He's so, like, that's the thing.
It's like that guy, Josh, like, I i i think he means well i had to block him because
he's annoying but i think he means well but he's so i'd love to see your block list phil it's long
dude because i block at the drop i'm on the i'm on the i'm on the michael malice train michael
malice is right when it comes to twitter i only block the porn bots that's it you block anyone at any reason for any reason
at at the drop of a hat because your twitter experience is your experience and you are not
you are not obligated to listen to anyone's bs you have to monetize the hate man monetize the
hate but why why even look at your mentions oh i still i still talk to people all the time
yeah i i i can't oh yeah you that i don't
have two yeah mine's random mine's still manageable it's just nonsense i open it up and it's a mix of
like crypto salesmen marijuana porn bots lots of porn mine's different now than it was like a year
like a year and change ago when i started uh coming down here regularly and stuff but like
it's it's still manageable i probably have have 2000 Twitter porn bots blocked, but nobody else.
What I do is if there's someone that is, you know, if I see, if I do periodically look
at mentions and stuff like that, if I see someone, the first thing I do is I don't block
them.
I mute them.
No, I do block them.
Oh, you do.
And then I unblock them instantly.
It's a, it's a force on follow.
So what, what, I'll stop appearing in their feed without them being blocked and then out
of sight, out of mind.
That's pretty cool.
I didn't know that.
So yeah, right.
He's giving away Twitter secrets right now.
Now I know why Tim stopped showing up in my Twitter feed, dude.
That's messed up, man.
The force on follow has been around forever.
You block and unblock right away.
And that, because some people are
trying to get blocked oh yeah so then they can then screenshot it and then start it's a currency
right it is so so you don't give it to them you just it's step one is block unblock and not not
not they don't follow you anymore i just like following the people that are the worst to me
i just follow them back i don't i do look i i take it back i do block there are some people
you know for a long time they went after family. They were talking shit about my family.
I do want people to talk about my children.
That's the one, the one caveat that I carry is if you talk about my kids, you're done.
There was a time where people were going after, were trying to, were like Antifa people were
trying to go after the band.
And so I started just blocking everything.
Cause I'm keep, I'm pretty good at keeping myself separate from the band.
Like I don't do political stuff under the guise of all that remains.
So I can keep them separate.
And the guys in the band,
they're very different opinions in the band,
right?
Like we're not a monolith at all.
So,
well,
we were trying to adopt the,
the baby sibling of our two adopted children and people were calling the DHS
to keep us from adopting.
And they did eventually happen.
Really?
You couldn't do it.
You couldn't adopt the kid.
They just,
they just made it too hard that's crazy which means that like people kept a child from having a
home with their biological siblings because of what they did on twitter yes that's this is the
thing about the internet like i would be really interested to see like an individual list of
who has blocked all of us uh because i think there is an aspect of the internet where people
create a version of you like you are creating it when you the internet where people create a version of you. Like you are creating it when you post, but also people have a version of you that they
have come predetermined to the platform.
They don't know me.
They see you on one thing and they're like, I, that guy is the worst and I hate him.
And they don't actually spend any time looking at you.
They'll, they'll block you right off the bat.
I'd like to know how many of my hater dorks like had adopted kids from foster care.
I'd like to know.
This goes, this goes back to what you're saying.
This goes back to what we're saying about charisma. There's
the same kind
of distaste, immediate knee-jerk
reaction that people have. Some people
you'll just meet someone and they're like,
I don't like something about that person.
It's really, really hard to do anything about
it if you get that.
I think it's
weird. I know
there's one person who has me blocked on Twitter and I know why
Person has never interacted with me ever. You know what I mean? Like it's interesting to think I
Don't care about you at all
But you care enough about me even though we've never interacted that you have to go out of your way to block my content
I'm not even I'm like barely alive. I've had people call my jobs and all kinds of stuff
I mean, it's pretty it gets mad. These people are nasty man. They were people like
You know bomb threats. Yeah. Yeah. You've had a bunch of shit too yeah yeah absolutely i've had lots of death threats lots of death threats if i showed up to my own anti-war
rally for my own party in dc they said they would kill me wow that's so weird yeah that's weird
because i feel like the stuff that i'm with us was very specific and centered around one particular
thing that i can't discuss.
But I see people post these messages
where it's like someone sent me this message, look, and it's like
this really awful, nasty thing. You're a scumbag
piece of every swear in the world.
We really don't get any of that stuff.
Aside from the
swatting stuff that was going on, that was hyper-specific
to...
There's still an ongoing investigation related to it,
but they think they caught the guy. I don't know that they did but that was really really specific in terms of the general
death threats and stuff like this for uh i don't see it like we we did the skate thing in dc we
announced we're going to be there not a peep we showed up and everyone clapped and cheered and
we got high fives yeah i carry everywhere i everywhere I go. I get like weird emotional messages.
Like I've had people message me stuff that's like, you know, just kind of dark.
They're telling me stuff that like I cannot help them with from the internet.
Again, you don't really like, we don't actually know each other.
And that's where it starts to be like, you know, the internet is such an interesting tool and people can feel really bonded with someone.
On the other hand, like it makes it so there's this weird barrier where you're allowed to interact with someone in a way that like, isn't real, but on the other end, like
they have no ability to help me if you're like threatening to hurt yourself or something like
that. Um, and I, again, with the rise of like Twitter endorsements and like how many people,
because if you were getting an endorsement for a presidential election in the past, right,
you would like maybe get a Congressman,, maybe a newspaper would endorse you, their editorial board, whatever else.
But now, Michael Rappaport, different pillars of culture, especially that are big online, what they say really matters.
And it can reach people in a way that I don't think campaigns have the ability to keep up with.
I mean, the influencer effect on the election is intense.
We live in an influencer economy.
We do.
Culture war is very important right now.
So let's talk about what's going on.
We got big news in two weeks.
We got RFK Jr. and Donald Trump at the Libertarian Party National Convention.
And Vivek.
And Vivek.
Vivek's campaigning for Trump, though.
So I assume it's all just about for...
Well, Vivek has actually said that he's going to debate our vice presidential candidate
really which could end up being uh kerr russell i'm sorry kerr russell wow good news joshua i
did i listen i just did exactly what michael rechtenwald did on the show when he uh when he
couldn't remember clint's name i know clint clint's a good friend of mine well i said the other day
that trump made a mistake in hiring michael bolton So, you know. Yeah, Michael Bolton, exactly. No, so yeah, it could
end up being Clint Russell from
Liberty Lockdown is our vice
presidential candidate. He has no real
There are no challengers. There are challengers,
but I mean, it's Clint. He's already, I mean,
he's kind of predetermined unless anybody else
steps up, I think. The vague signaling that he's VP?
I don't know. That's what I felt like. It felt
like that he was, that's his signal. But he's
standing behind Trump at the fundraiser.
Has Trump picked a VP yet?
No, but he's at Mar-a-Lago with Trump at a fundraiser standing right next to him.
I see him going with the intent of helping Donald Trump.
But to have a major political candidate going to the Libertarian Party convention.
A past president.
Right. It's massive. This is history. The biggest thing that ever happened to the Liarian party convention a past president. I mean right. It's massive
This is history the biggest thing that ever happened a libertarian party and you know
The normal social club people that have been in the libertarian party for a long time are really upset about this
I mean they're really hey, you know, there's a there's a part of me
It's like hey, this is taken at first like this is gonna take a couple eyes off our candidate
But then I really got to the point where I was like no
We're gonna have more eyes on our candidate than we've ever had at the National Convention in 50 years, right?
So like and there's also like RFK jr. is pushing for a debate with Donald Trump, right?
Which if that was to happen and get the LP, it's not going to happen.
No way.
It's probably not.
But if we were able to get the Libertarian presidential candidate in there as well,
because if we can pick the nominee early enough,
then we have three different parties basically actually doing something
that the Libertarian Party has never been able to do ever in history.
When do you guys pick your candidate?
On the first day of your convention?
So it's supposed to be on the third day.
But there is a way to amend the agenda to move it up.
And there's a lot of people that are talking, delegates.
Because, you know, our delegates, there's only 1,000 people that pick our nominee.
Yeah.
There's delegates from all over the country show up and pick our nominee two weeks from
today, actually.
And so there's a chance that we move it up.
We have our nominee picked.
And that's the person that questions Donald Trump at the show.
Can you, when you, when Angela made the announcement, she said that people were going to like send
in questions or something beforehand.
There's going to be sort of a list for Donald Trump.
There's already a list of things.
So what's the, is he getting like, is somebody moderating and asking him questions or is
he going to deliver speech?
I've heard so many different things.
But there's one that says if we have the nominee by then, the nominee is the one that gets
the answer, ask the questions from the panel. If we don we have the nominee by then, the nominee is the one that gets the answer.
Ask the questions from the panel.
If we don't have the nominee, this is the list of questions.
He's going to talk maybe about Ross Ulbrich.
Maybe he's going to talk.
There's certain things.
There's all kinds of things flying around out there.
Who knows what's real?
Angela probably knows much better than I do.
What is real and what isn't?
There's so much in the Twitter space.
But look, the fact of the matter is, is that this is the biggest thing that happened to
the Libertarian Party.
And people are like, oh, you're asking your opponents To come over there. I'm like that's good
That's good for me because if I if I get the nomination in two weeks because I'm you know
I'm considered one of the frontrunner maybe top three
Okay, if I get the nomination and we're on C-SPAN and we're on all these news
outlets and and Donald Trump's there and I'm the guy that gets the nomination after a debate because we have a debate to
Like our candidates debate on the news
That's gonna be more eyes on the Li libertarian party than ever before ever in history in
50 years.
Why would you be mad about that?
Don't be mad about that.
That's a good thing.
Well, I mean, legitimately, as far as libertarians go, like Donald Trump is a really bad libertarian.
So I get why there are like the pure, cause look, I'm a better libertarian than Donald
Trump.
And there are libertarians out there that would swear to God, I'm not better libertarian than donald trump and there are libertarians out there
that would swear to god i'm not a libertarian right so you know that's just the way that it goes
um so donald trump get drawing attention you know um i mean god but there's just they're both so far
away from libertarian i think trump's gonna get booed and cheered yeah he's gonna get a lot of
chasing a lot of booze well you have to register for the Trump event, too,
because there's limited space. So there's going to be
outside people. It's not just going to be libertarians.
There's going to be a lot of people there.
It's essentially like Trump's own rally at the
Libertarian Party Convention. I was going to say, I would assume
if libertarians are maybe like, don't siphon
off our voters when we need them to
vote for our candidate who we just selected.
This is the truth that libertarians need to be
confronted with. We have less than 700,000 registered libertarian voters in the entire United States.
Trump can reach those people on the media today, right now.
He does not need to go to the Libertarian Party convention.
But there's a lot of other voters there that know nothing about the Libertarian Party
that will see the Libertarian Party because of Trump being there.
Am I too close?
Am I hot?
Am I hot?
Yeah, I'm pretty hot.
He's passionate.
My mic's starting to go out at home
and I have the same mic and so I have to hold it real close.
I apologize. I think Trump's going to earn votes.
So the
idea is actually really simple.
Trump does not have the Libertarian Party votes.
He doesn't have Libertarians. They want
to vote Libertarian. Trump showing up,
it's only a net positive. And if he can
get even a tiny bit, it's just
good news for him. That's why he's doing it.
I disagree.
You think he's going there to be like,
I better lose votes?
He can reach all those registered voters
just on the news today, right now.
He doesn't have to go to the Libertarian Party.
Outreach matters.
No, outreach matters.
Outreach does matter.
Not to Libertarians, buddy.
Have you ever met a Libertarian?
Then what is the reason Trump
would actually go to the convention?
I don't know.
He's hoping to-
I'm sure he hopes.
I'm sure he hopes, but I don't think I don't think that
that's going to help. I think it's going to help the libertarian. Even if you only have 700,000
registered libertarian, there are a lot of people who lean libertarian, lean libertarian, who
identify with libertarian. I mean, I think of the effect that, you know, that show Parks and Brecks
had when they had this one Nick Offerman character who was a libertarian. And I think that brought
that concept to a lot of people, a lot of young people who would be more open to the ideas
They don't want to say they're conservative. I want to say the Republican like well, but I like the libertarian
So by Trump showing up at the event, it's him saying like I recognize that this is a philosophy
That's there and I think this is he's gonna make his case. There was a whole group in 2016 called libertarians for Trump
I mean, it's not like the libertarians don't know who Trump is like they've never seen him
They live in a country that he was the president of for four years i think it's for the sympathetic like the libertarian
independent voter like he's gonna be like look i talked to them i think that more people are
gonna see our nominee i think the issue of the libertarian party is that it's functionally just
third party right you've got woke libertarians anti-woke libertarians pro-borders libertarians
anti-borders libertarians it's just basically a group of a bunch of different people deciding that they don't like the establishment right and then operating
under one banner yeah that's the problem with freedom right is everybody's got it and i said
that before the show uh everybody's got a different version of what freedom is to them and that's the
it's a big messy beautiful thing really truly and that's that's how freedom would be in any country
that chose to adopt it but here's the thing i posted on twitter about this earlier and dave
smith is god bless him said this on twitter once too but um you's the thing. I posted on Twitter about this earlier and Dave Smith is,
God bless him, said this on Twitter once too. But, um, you know, the thing, the, the, the, the simple thing about the white pill is if you have children or you plan on having children,
you can't afford the black pill. Right. And that's the truth is like, I want my children to live in
a society that has fewer laws than I lived in, right. More freedoms than I lived in. And, and
so like, it's going to be a messy thing. Freedom's
going to be a messy thing no matter what. Because everyone's got a different version
of that. But we've got to continue to push towards
their, I can't afford the black bill because I have children.
So many children.
Do you have
an answer for the arguments
that people that are post
liberals make? That liberalism
has, because I
am still working through the the
liberalism has the flaw of liberalism takes arguments at face value and
philosophies that are not liberal are not obliged to be honest or engage in
debate in any kind of way that a liberal would understand it, which is, I think,
the reason why liberalism has, the people that say liberalism has failed, whether they be on
the left or the right, the reason is because they have not allowed, they have allowed illiberal
philosophies to beat them by using illiberal arguments, but they're trying to still be
liberal. Do you know, do you have a concept of what should be done when you're dealing with people that are going to openly lie they don't care about the
truth that that you know essentially the the the sinful impulses well yeah i feel that's what i've
been doing and and the thing and the thing about it is is like what i'm saying is articulated here
yeah well we the problem is i said it once earlier is we're losing the war on language
and we've been losing the war on language for a long time.
And a lot of that is deceitful, purposely deceitful.
And so the best thing that we can do, and I don't consider myself a liberal,
or I guess you can call libertarianism, liberalism, whatever.
I don't really subscribe to that.
I think that technically to me it's a right-wing movement
and further right than the conservatives in the United States.
That's how I feel about it.
And you know that we probably disagree on some things.
So philosophically, where would you say it comes from?
Philosophically, it probably was born out of classical liberalism.
Okay.
Yes.
And that's fine.
But we ceded that word a long time ago.
Fair enough.
I just want to know where you're—
Trying to bring that word back now as a libertarian is just—it's failing us.
Because the thing—I understand what you're saying about the argue about about um about the the language but the point so then what i'm trying
to get to is what is where your ideas are going to stem from is it a liberal philosophy what kind
of philosophy do you have to inform your opinions your your epistemology i think the most important
the most important thing we can do is not mince our words anymore i mean we don't want to play
the language game anymore we want to use the language that's that's now in the now and not try to use the
historical language because we're losing we've lost that war a long time ago so no more mincing
our words we've got to stand strong in every principle that we have um and these are the
important things because it's becoming mainstream right now i mean you got you got mma fighters
going out there talking about reed mises and brothbard yeah in their post-fight interviews
and argentina has a libertarian having i don't know don't know, I haven't looked in deep, but
I hear that the numbers are good now.
I go back and forth on Malay, and I think the Bitcoin movement in Salvador, you know
why I go back and forth on Malay.
I think he's done some really good things.
I'm not going to fault him entirely, but we'll see how Zionist he gets.
Unreal.
I still like him.
I still like him. He could fix Argentina, man. Yeah, well, you know. He won me over atist he gets. Unreal. I still like him. I still like him.
He could fix Argentina, man.
Yeah, well, you know.
He won me over at a Fuera.
Yeah.
That's it.
No, I don't hate the guy.
I think he's doing a good job.
I think he's done some really good things.
So I support that.
I do.
And I'm very clear about supporting him.
I do.
Now, if he starts sending taxpayer money across the world, he's not really a libertarian,
is he?
I don't think that he's going to be sending a taxpayer money.
Okay, I hope not.
They don't have any taxpayer money.
So what does a Josh Smith presidency do for this country?
Well, first of all, I think something, and I talked about it the first time I was on the show,
the most important thing to me is the family in the United States.
I think the United States has had an open war against the family.
Whether it's economic policy, social policy, whether it's the actual family law in the United States right now with Title IV-D, the Social Security Act,
which was signed into law by Gerald Ford in 1971, that took us from a society that had one in 60 children living in a fatherless home to one in four just since the 70s.
With that, it's been undeniable stats for increases in violent youth offenders, increases in homeless and runaway youth, increases in school
dropouts and mass shootings. All this stuff is undeniably attached to the destruction of the
family in the United States. So that's at the forefront of trying to put the focus back on
bringing families back together and making families have to learn how to work it out.
That's the truth, because we've just given people an easy out.
So as president, you will executive order mandate people have families.
No,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
I would remove,
I would remove the,
you know,
the title.
I would work to remove title 40 of the social security act,
which has paid States to separate families where essentially the federal
government pays a dollar to every state that spends 88 cents on these family
programs.
Okay.
But there's a lot
of other things too. I mean, economically we're destroying the middle class. You can't keep
families together if you're destroying the middle class. The federal reserve is obviously a giant
counterfeiting machine that's, you know, stealing our wealth through a tax called inflation. I know
that's a bumper sticker, but that's the truth. It's really the prop up for the warfare state
and all the worst policy in the United States. So like, we've got to start working to to dismantle the fed now the president doesn't have the power to end the federal reserve but
he does have the power to nominate the fed chair he does direct the treasury maybe we don't take
any more fiat currency from from the fed there's a lot of different policies that could be worked
on to to start breaking down this federal reserve machine you can make luke rudkowski the uh fed
chair well i've i've said that it would be someone along the lines of Ron Paul,
Bob Murphy, somebody like that, somebody who's really good at
economics. Bob Murphy is one of the best followers
on Twitter. He's so much fun.
He's probably the
most fun economist that you can find on Twitter.
And we've got to stop the warfare state. It's disgusting.
It's such a
huge part of our budget. We've got 12% of the
population in the United States today can hardly put food
on the table. Like I said, the middle class, I'm just a blue collar working
class guy, right? Like I'm just a normal guy like everybody else running for president who might end
up on all 50 ballots. So I understand like how these policies affect families because I am a
big family raising kids, like doing everything that everybody else, I put work boots on every
morning. And so, you know, the warfare state's got to go. We can't continue to spend all of our citizens tax money on wars that most of them don't support.
It's got to be in.
What changes first?
You change culturally first or policy?
Because I think people also have learned to hate or not want to have families.
The libertarians aren't going to win until we change the culture.
That's just how it's going to be.
We have got to culturally move society in a direction where they understand how bad the Federal Reserve is,
how bad the warfare state is, how bad gun legislation is, how bad the drug war is,
how bad all these things that have been, you know, the war against the family.
We have to get society to understand that stuff before they'll support a libertarian.
Here's one idea.
What if you held an event called, like, Free Cheeseburgers and Why the Fed is Bad Day?
Well, you know, I've been doing that on break the cycle twice a week for,
for three years.
No,
I it's,
there's,
there's a lot of stuff and there's a lot more libertarianism in culture now
too.
Like people,
like people like Phil over here,
who's,
you know,
a musician well-known goes out and talks about libertarian philosophy and
stuff.
And,
and you know,
air July and people making comic books and there's,
that's the kind of cultural stuff that we have to do.
If we're ever going to get to a point where that we do get a libertarian elected
family stuff where does your libertarian presidency go with abortion uh so i'm so i actually have it
i am the only abolitionist candidate running in america today i'm the only one who thinks that
it is absolutely ill libertarian to kill your child and and tim we're not going to argue about this but
because let's let's let's jump to this uh this story from scnr we can talk about it on the rfk
jr suggests abortion should rfk jr suggests abortion should not be regulated by federal or
state laws and probably one of the most shocking and probably the most extreme position held by
any federal politician rfk j.'s position saying, I mean,
this is a quote, even at full term.
She said, so let's like, Kennedy says, I don't think it's ever okay.
And then we should do everything in our power to make sure that never happens.
But I ultimately think nobody sets out to do that.
And there are always some kind of extenuating circumstances that would make a mother make
that kind of choice, a terrible, terrible choice.
You can't overstate how bad it is.
I think ultimately we have to trust women.
The interviewer says, even full term, to which Kennedy responds, even full term.
Now, let's analyze what he said.
Nobody sets out to do that.
My guy, murder happens all the time.
And people do set out to do it intentionally because they want to end a life for whatever reason.
What he says in this interview is basically there should be zero regulation in any way up to full term.
If a woman decides, just trust her because no one would really do a bad thing like that.
I don't think there's any other federal-level politician
who's taken that extreme position.
I think mine's the opposite extreme.
That is the most naive position any president has ever...
I've heard any president in this...
It's insane.
It's like, oh, no one would do that?
It happens all the time.
That is the most...
That is childish.
Tim, are you becoming more pro-life in real time right now?
What does that mean?
My position is the same as it's always been.
You're pro-life, right?
I've never been of the position that should be unrestricted.
I'm anti-human sacrifice.
I've never held the position that at any point for any reason a woman can just kill a baby.
And I've said every single time we've talked about it that elective abortion is wrong this is ralph northam level like we'll keep him calm this is beyond
it's crazy he was saying yeah it's but no you wouldn't really use some regulation in that what
it is is cowardice is because he's afraid to say anything that would offend the democrats or the
the the pro-abortion law he has to go so hard in the other direction to win them back because they think he's a conspiracy theorist.
I mean, he's unacceptable anyways.
Like, he's unacceptable across the board.
All of the stuff that he's,
all the things that people like about him
are positions that he's come to in the past two years
because of COVID.
That's why I also don't trust the V.
That is unacceptable.
In 2021, he was still stumping for lockdowns for for
he's hollywood catholic yeah like just like biden uh he seems like he's crawling out of the womb of
liberalism like in the bad sense liberalism not good liberal are we just finding out who the
kennedys are today no but there's this i was i was i was anti kennedy from the first moment
well i like things that some kennedys have done i like jfk saying no to northwood yeah that's good I was anti-Kennedy from the first moment that he came on.
I was like, okay, it's interesting.
I like JFK saying no to Northwoods. Yeah, that was good.
There's things that they've done that are nice, but he's also...
He didn't make it long after saying no to Northwoods.
I wonder why.
I don't know.
I wonder why.
But he says things I really liked.
Also, because I think he should understand the CIA and how they operate when it comes
to his dad and all that stuff.
But he's...
I just see him pandering.
I want to find that point.
I think it's near the end.
He's a serial cheater,
so I wonder if that's why he's pro-abortion.
I mean...
He's had a pretty rough life.
It's up to the woman.
But nothing he says is a shame.
Even if it's full term.
Even if it's full term.
Fuck.
Okay, and I think that's where,
that's what I wanted to clarify
because there has especially...
I'm going to play that again for you.
Right.
So to leave,
so in other words,
keeping it as is
with Roe versus Wade
having been overturned
and leaving it up to the states
to determine
if and when
a woman can have an abortion?
No, I wouldn't leave it
to the states.
You wouldn't, right.
I would...
You would say completely,
it's up to the woman. My belief is we should leave it to the woman. i would i would say completely it's up to the woman i believe
we should leave it to the woman we shouldn't have government involved even if it's full term
even if it's full term okay and i think that's where that's what i wanted to clarify because
they're especially uh people in the middle trying to yo we're we're wow disqualified male feminists are the worst dude nothing he says in
that preamble leading up to it where he's dancing around the idea it's all negated by the even full
term yes even full term this is absolutely insane yeah he's like and we'll just trust women dude
some women deliver their babies and throw it in a dumpster a million a million babies are aborted
every year in the united States. A million.
But how many instances, if you look it up per year, how many instances have occurred where women will have a baby and throw it in a dumpster?
It happens a lot.
It happens enough to where...
And toilets.
And toilets and garbage bags.
There was that woman who had the baby and then the mom and her, they killed it or whatever.
What was that story?
In Arizona or New Mexico.
And he's like, just trust them.
Just trust the women.
Like, dude, look, I don't think the majority of women are set out to murder their babies
in these
kinds of ways. I actually think a lot of women
would rather not get an abortion, and society's
pressuring them in this direction. That's besides the point.
Yeah, sorry. Any presidential candidate that says trust women
is automatically disqualified.
But if the point
is, he's like, well, you know, no one really wants to do this. I. Well, I think we'll go with- But if the point is, he's like,
well, you know, no one really wants to do this.
I'm like, yo, some guy in New York
threw a belt around a woman's neck,
dragged her behind a car and then raped her.
Is that what happened?
Oh, that was crazy.
On video, it's on video.
There are people who do want to do these awful things.
That's what government does.
But hey, I'll give it to this.
It's very libertarian, right?
And I mean this in the most dry sense.
I disagree.
In the dry sense of the anti-government word,
the government being like,
we literally just won't even enforce laws.
I think one of the important things to note with the stories you get about like girls
who toss their babies in dumpsters or whatever else
is they're also part of a culture that says
having a kid ruins your life.
It's over after this.
And so I think it's crazy that we have this narrative
of like, yeah,
they're under terrible circumstances,
quote from RFK,
when actually the terrible circumstances
are like you might not get
to go to college.
You might have to take on
more responsibility at a young age.
Like it's very,
it's not common.
It's not the majority of people
who have abortions
who are really in dire straits.
They have all kinds of issues.
It's a thing that culture has told us you should do because otherwise you have to become
responsible.
Like, oh, what a concept.
I want to say there's another part in this interview as well that's not being talked
about here.
And this is the funny part is he says he's for full term abortions.
He's for full term abortions.
But we need to make it so that women feel like they don't have to make abortions.
So he's also talking about using more taxpayer money for more services to
take care of women. Also saying that women should
be able to commit
baby murder up through full term.
That's how I look at it. I don't
mince words on this anymore. I'm done with it.
I don't do it anymore. That's why I started calling it human sacrifice.
Yeah, that's even better maybe. I'm the only
abolition candidate running in the United States today.
So you're too close to the mic or are you too far away?
Oh, still?
I'm going to start screaming.
That's a cat.
I know.
I'm cats because it's loud in mine.
And so I'm trying to keep up.
That's why.
They don't even know what they're doing, right?
I'll take one off.
It'll be better that way.
No, I mean, I think there is this policy issue of like,
on what level of government do you regulate this?
But I also think the cultural issue of like,
we have raised generations especially of women to look at children and families as this
negative burden that is you know going to make them have to do all these things they don't want
to do or whatever else and for the most part it's inaccurate it doesn't really represent how people
want to live but it also creates this negative hostility that makes i just hate that abortion
is the woman's issue i think women have a lot of interest.
I think they have a lot of things
that could change their life
and they have boil it down to like,
but if you aren't allowed to get rid of your baby,
your life is over.
Real quick, I just got to give a shout out
to Old Sticky, Old Sticky Keatain, Super Chat.
He said, his brain worm died.
Poor guy starved to death.
Nice.
I like that.
So Hannah Clare, you said uh abortion is women's a women's
issue they have they made it the women okay i have very good news for you the issue is never
the issue the issue is always the revolution that's true but this is how they're selling it
to women to join the revolution right for the moment because remember as soon as they threw
women under the bus as soon as the women with the penises showed up and the women i love these women like it's crazy to me i love i love this
narrative where it's like don't be republican what if you need to kill your baby yeah and they're
like that's a good point i can't be republican i have to be able to kill my progeny you know like
i i just i think it's disgusting it's the same group of culture that is like you should 100
freeze your eggs because what if you wanted to work until you're 45?
Also, what if you accidentally get pregnant
and then you should have to be able to get rid of that baby?
I got it.
What is it here, team?
I solved it.
Okay, if a woman wants to get an abortion,
you just take the baby out and freeze it.
There you go.
You can freeze it for a later date.
People do that.
They'll like conceive children and they put them on ice.
I mean, that's part of IVF sometimes. You can take a baby
out of a woman and put it on ice. Not a full-born baby, but
it conceives. Fertilized eggs.
The baby's being born and she's like, can I freeze it?
Usually that's used for people that are...
IVF is typically used for people that have
problems giving birth.
I'm saying like Owen walks in the clinic and she's like,
hey, I'm four weeks pregnant. They'll be like, we will take
that thing out and we'll put it in a freezer. In 1956
they were freezing hamsters for like, I think I'm four weeks pregnant. They'll be like, we will take that thing out and we'll put it in the freezer. In 1956, they were freezing hamsters
for like, I think an hour, and then
microwaving them.
And bringing them back to life, resuscitating them. With a microwave?
It's almost like a radiator.
Look it up. It's a microwave. It might be a special
microwave, but I'm calling it a microwave.
The frogs out here, those little
frogs are called spring peepers.
No, they're based.
You got based frogs. Spring peepers, dude. they're based. We got good water here. You got based frogs.
Spring peepers, dude.
These are little one-inch frogs,
and they scream really loud.
They're basically yelling at the ladies,
but they have super high glucose in their blood,
so they don't freeze.
They just slow down and then don't move,
and then when it gets warm,
they just come right back.
Wow, that's pretty wild.
That's based.
How do we change the...
We got to put the sugar in the baby when it's born
and then put it in the freezer.
Put it in the freezer and a microwave.
I think it's gonna be impossible
to change abortion from the top down,
although I think we need to get rid of human sacrifice.
I think we need to do it,
but I don't know if it's gonna fix everything overnight.
How do you do the cultural from the bottom up?
I look at the government.
Look, so as a libertarian,
I think the only libertarian position
is that if a government must exist,
it has to exist to protect the life and rights of its citizens.
That's it.
I mean, that's what the government should be do.
And the right to life extends to all people, including the unborn child.
Right.
So like a government should say that it should be illegal to murder.
I agree with you.
I feel like outlawing it, which I agree with, will cause deranged people to do it more in other ways.
It should be dangerous.
So let me ask you a couple questions.
Let's say there's a person and they're riding their bike.
And then another person riding his bike jumps off the back of a tow truck, does a sick flip
and tail whip.
And then as he's landing, the tail of the bike hits the other guy in the head, knocking
him down to the ground, hits his head again in the head knocking him down to the ground hits
his head again and then they bring him to the hospital and this guy is his his brain is gone
he's brain dead just just lying there do you think the law should mandate that person be kept alive
uh i think that man that's a tough one uh no i don't think the law should mandate that person
be kept alive because they have no uh they have zero life left i mean it's their life is gone once you're once your brain is
once your brain dead i mean technically you're almost legally dead at that point like it's like
the terry shivo thing like right person's in a coma with a feeding tube and they're like
we don't think this person is here anymore we don't think they can come back at that point
your family should decide how much suffering they're willing to let you do.
But when it's a baby that's not suffering,
that's a new life being born.
There's a complete, this is Apple and Orange's argument.
I disagree.
The issue with people who are comatose
is the doctors don't really know for certain.
I mean, there's certainly circumstances where like,
yo, this guy, his brain is jello.
But there are a lot of circumstances
where people have been saying-
There's not a lot, it's very rare.
When people are brain dead in comas like that,
it's very rare they come back.
But it's also not uncommon for doctors to be wrong.
And so-
Well, yeah, that's one of the biggest causes
of death in the United States.
And it absolutely is malpractice.
So the issue then becomes,
do you trust the doctor
when he's giving medical advice saying,
this person is no longer with us?
And then you have you run into a similar problem with abortion where there are many women who say the doctor told them your kid is not viable.
It will die in an abortion. And then they said you're wrong. And they had the kid. The kid's healthy and 20 years old.
Yeah. So the challenge I see there is giving discretion to end life now with with someone who's an adult or older or any capacity,
like a teenager or whatever, they end up dependent upon a machine to live. Someone's got to pay for
that resource. They have to come from somewhere. That's a challenge. With a woman who's pregnant,
her body is already sustaining the baby. So as long as she's eating and living, the baby is
going to grow and be nurtured. I just think there is a similarity there. And at what point do we allow a medical practitioner or a state to determine that a life can be ended?
Well, okay. First of all, I want to start this off saying that like 1% of abortions in the United
States are medically necessary. Okay. So we're talking like 99% of abortions in the United States
today are not medically necessary. That baby would thrive and grow and be human. They're elective.
It's contraception.
There's a huge, and I'm going to keep saying it's apples and oranges
because it's a completely different argument.
We're talking about somebody who is brain dead, in a coma,
cannot support their life anymore.
You're exaggerating the position.
A person who is in a coma and presumed brain dead could recover.
Should a doctor, a man, a fallible man say,
we can pull the plug.
I hereby determine in my expertise as a doctor, I think he can't recover. Should a doctor, a man, a fallible man say, we can pull the plug. I hereby determine in my expertise as a doctor, I think he can't recover. And then we're supposed to take his
word for it. That's the issue. How is that the same as knowing that a baby is growing and going
to grow up to be a human being and a doctor saying this person is brain dead? Well, you're making a
probabilistic argument. The baby likely will not suffer a traumatic brain injury during birth.
The baby will likely have a fully functioning brain and no disabilities.
The baby will likely not.
There are babies that are born brain dead.
There are babies.
There was actually a baby that was born without a brain.
It had only a serum bone.
Yeah, there's babies born with all kinds of different birth defects for sure.
That's also not the norm.
So you're making a probabilistic argument.
But the norm for people that are brain dead are they are dead. So, again, you're exaggerating the norm. So you're making a probabilistic argument. But the norm for people that are brain dead are they are dead. Right. So
again, you're exaggerating the position. I'm saying there's a
person who is by all appearances
comatose
and the doctor says this person will not recover.
I'm not saying that there's no...
I'm saying there's a chance. We don't know. The person could recover.
It's happened. Sure. So
the question then becomes, and
by all means, hold the position. It's probabilistic.
Fine. If there is a 10% chance the person recovers, and by all means, hold the position. It's probabilistic. Fine.
If there is a 10% chance, the person recovers. Do we say you can't kill him? If it's a 0.001% chance, I certainly wouldn't say that we should kill somebody with a 99% chance of survival.
Like we would with 99% of the babies that are right. But if it's a 99% chance of death,
you're okay with it. I mean, if there's, if there's a 99% chance and a medical professional
is telling you this person is never going to come back if there's a 99% chance and a medical professional is telling
you this person is never going to come back and there's 1%, at that point, it's got to be up to
the family to decide. So then how would you deal with, when it comes to abortion law, a doctor
just going, you want to get an abortion? I hereby sign this baby has a 99% chance of death. So
we're good. Doctor says so. Kill the baby. Doesn't that sound like a medical malpractice suit waiting to happen plus a murder charge, in my opinion?
Oh, sure.
I mean, if you're –
They'll find ways to prove it.
I mean, if we got – you know, if you make it a mandate, like, for where these doctors have to go to jail for performing abortions, there's going to be ways to prove it.
I mean, there's – it's got to be a criminal justice thing. If we prosecute murders, right? Look, we prosecute,
anybody can murder today, right? Right now, right? I prosecute murder. Yeah. The idea that
a doctor could make a mistake and be, and then you're going to find intent on that.
The issue becomes like many people have said, the issue with no fault divorce, I've said no
fault divorce is bad. The response is without no fault divorce, women will falsely accuse their husbands of rape. And how do you deal with that?
Women already do that now.
That's right.
Even with no-fault divorce.
And it'll get substantially worse. I don't think that's an argument. I think we should
still get rid of no-fault divorce. If you don't want to get married, don't get married.
But the issue then is, not that it's the majority position, not that you shouldn't ban abortion.
I'm saying, simple question, how do you deal with doctors who lie? Is it we try to investigate them?
I think the reality is,
if you say a doctor can give medically necessary abortions
will always be permitted,
like, look, the baby's gonna die and you're gonna die,
doctor says so.
No, I think only if a woman's gonna die.
I think that's the cutoff point.
To me, that's the abolitionist.
And that's, you know, it has to be proven.
Not if the baby's going to die?
I mean, the doctors say that the babies
aren't going to survive all the time, and they do.
So why would we risk it, risk murdering somebody
just because there's a chance they might not make it?
I mean, that's just, that's insane.
That's an insane, if we really get to like
the crux of this argument in the United States today
about this thing, like it's really disgusting.
It's really disgusting to think about the fact
that we treat unborn children as like completely expendable.
It's completely expendable in the United States today. So if a woman is pregnant
and the baby has no brain. If the baby has no brain, I mean, if the baby's developing with no
brain, then the baby's not alive. I mean, that's, that's just the truth of the matter. The baby's
not alive. The baby's not alive. You don't, you just the truth of the matter. That baby's not alive. Baby's got no lungs.
That baby's not alive.
You don't survive that long.
Okay, so now we're getting to it.
So you are saying there are many circumstances
in which a doctor's orders could result
in abortion of the baby.
I mean, yeah.
If the baby's an ectopic pregnancy,
I mean, you're going to know that within,
what, six weeks?
This is literally what I'm asking.
But here's the thing.
We're throwing up all these different hypotheticals the the fact of the matter is that 99 of abortions are elected they're elected so we're talking a million babies a year
okay 99 of those are elective abortions where there was nothing wrong with the baby there
wasn't the mother wasn't gonna die okay there wasn't even rape or incest or whatever it is that the left throws at you when you say that a murder should be illegal
Okay, so you're talking about hypothetical. I'm sorry
You bad I would ban it. Yes, absolutely
I would I'm the only
Abolition candidate running today in the United States because I think that murder wrong and it should say wrong and we need a society no
No exemptions or some exemptions or what's the exemptions for the for the life of the baby if if it's gonna kill the mother then it should be medical medically
necessary that's nothing on the baby nothing else nothing else okay so there are scenarios
where like a baby will have no heart or something like this it'll be developing improperly you're
gonna know that i mean there might be some medical yes okay there might be some medical
necessity where you know because first of all if a baby's forming with, you know.
You're basically taking Louisiana's position because that's what Louisiana has a ban on abortion except for medically.
I forget what the term is.
It's got to be full.
It's got to be provably medically necessary.
Otherwise, we're murdering people.
I mean, that's really the truth of the situation in the United States today is we're murdering unborn babies every day.
A million.
A million a year.
That's got to stop.
And if we don't have somebody who's going to stand up and denormalize this practice,
and so we can get into all the hypotheticals you want.
That's fine.
But the truth of the matter is that 99% of the babies murdered in the United States today are perfectly fine, healthy babies.
This is what I find frustrating.
I get it.
You can say it a million times.
I'm trying to understand what is the practical application of a law you would make?
What does it do? How does it affect society? Just saying abortion is bad. We want to get rid of it.
Totally agree. Totally get it. You do agree. You agree that we should get rid of it. Elective
abortions are bad. I've said it all the time. Yeah. I thought you were more pro-choice than
that before when we had already before. Yeah. The issue being that in the case of rape and incest, having, I think, where we would be, regardless of my opinion on what you should or shouldn't allow someone to do,
is that the Fourth Amendment would require a judge to sign off on every abortion.
That is not what I think society should be doing, but that is what the Constitution dictates.
We don't typically punish the children of criminals by death either.
So that's something that we need to think about in society as well.
When we're talking about exceptions, we don't typically punish the children of criminals.
The 14th Amendment needs to be, the Supreme Court needs to answer this, are the unborn persons.
Right.
Because it draws a distinction between what a citizen and what a person is under the Constitution.
And that persons cannot have their life, liberty, or property taken or hindered without due process.
Do you get a double homicide if you kill a pregnant woman?
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
It depends on the state.
So, I mean, there's definitely places
where they've already said that's a person.
If that's the case, then,
the unborn have personhood,
and a judge will have to sign off
on the approval of an abortion.
And that's the 14th Amendment.
I believe the 14th Amendment, interpreted properly,
would ban abortion in almost all circumstances.
Here's what I don't like about conservatives,
is that they say rape and incest.
And I say, why is incest banned?
A rape I get, you're making an argument about a woman
who did not consent to give her body in the government
being restricted on whether it can force that woman to give her body to
someone else.
But incest?
Like if a brother and a sister have a kid, I mean, it's gross and it's bad for a lot
of reasons.
It's degenerate as hell.
But do you sentence the baby of incest to death?
If a baby born of incest would have all kinds of health issues, like it would be undercover.
I'm not saying I agree.
I've just heard that as presented.
When the conservatives say rape and incest, I'm saying the incest thing has no moral argument
other than icky. Like there's there's negative consequences, dramatic negative consequences to
incest. But we're talking if we're talking about two consenting siblings, which I think is a bad
thing and they have a baby. Why make an exception to kill that baby in this in the circumstances,
irrespective of its medical conditions? If the argument is if the baby is suffering from severe deformity it opens the
door to it well then we have a medical argument but if the issue is the baby appears to be healthy
in every way but it's an incest baby so kill it that doesn't make sense here's the here's my last
point on this because i know we you and i like to argue this every time i come here it's usually on
the members only show but um here's my my my last my last point on this is, is that, you know, we, we let the left throw these, the same, the same hypotheticals
that other people bring up to the rape, the incest, the medical necessity. We're talking
about less than 1% of those abortions. We let the left beat us on these issues with 1% hypothetical.
Okay. We let the left beat us on these issues.
We've got to stand strong in these.
We've got to stop mincing words.
We've got to not lose the war on language.
And the only way to do that is to call it what it is.
It's baby murder, and it's become normalized in the United States,
and we've got to stop it.
I'm actually really surprised.
A lot of people in the chat are pro-choice.
Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure.
There's probably libertarians watching.
They're saying I'm wrong, and if a baby is conceived of incest,
it should be aborted.
There should be an exception to kill it.
Yeah, well, those people are wrong. But if a baby is conceived of incest it should be aborted. There should be an exception to kill it. Yeah, well those people
are wrong. But if a baby
is conceived of incest,
you shouldn't kill it, right? I don't think
you should kill it. I don't think you should kill
babies at all.
Do you know what I think we're going to have to do?
I don't think I've gotten any clearer. I don't think I can be any clearer.
I don't think babies should be murdered. I honestly think
the incest question will become more prevalent over
the next couple decades because there are so many cases of sperm donors who are like, you know, you hear
these cases of like fertility doctors who use their sperm and suddenly they're like,
I have 500 siblings and we actually all grew up in the same state.
Like, I wonder if this will be something we confront as a society.
You guys are right here in West Virginia.
You can just do a poll.
Hey, hey, hey.
I think the thing that I find frustrating with the abortion issue is that I typically find a lot of people are unwilling to state their actual opinions on how to do it because there's no it is is the the moral equivalent of like a gigantic spear.
There is there's there's no fence.
There's no dead man's land.
There's no middle ground.
There's no compromise.
There is either the abortion side or the no abortion side.
And so there's a lot of people in politics.
We had one guy on the show who refused to say abortion was murder.
And pro-life guy.
Because he's worried about the optics.
Right.
Of what it's going to be when people see him say that.
How it affects him politically.
Yeah, that's the same thing.
Listen, this is when Donald Trump came out with this kind of wishy-washy.
I know.
Kerry Lake did it too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They all came out with these wishy-washy things.
And then all of a sudden the Republicans were like, well, it's an issue we can't win on.
And I said very clearly too.
Hey guys, I'm sorry.
Like the chat is very adamant.
It says a lot about the culture.
It says a lot about the culture.
But pro-life people are saying if babies are conceived of incest, they should be aborted.
Listen.
Listen to me.
If you think it's murder.
If you're going to be wishy-washy on this issue because you think you can't win on this issue, then you don't deserve to win.
I'm sorry.
I completely agree.
If you're running for a government position and you can't win on protecting unborn lives, then you shouldn't win.
I'm sorry.
You should lose.
I mean, it's ridiculous to me that Trump and Kerry Lake are now just just saying safely and rare in a new 2024 parenting the left that we're losing
that war because we keep we keep compromising on these issues this is what i think though like
no no offense to all the politicians but like nothing's going to fix it because this has to
be a cultural thing because we're dealing with a cult of nihilism and you can't win the culture
war if you mince your words and start saying the the the same narrative as your opponents yeah it's not
gonna work it's gonna have to come from the bottom up the chat's getting really mad because i'm
reading and i said why is there an exception why do conservatives have an exception for incest
and they're all saying tim you're wrong that you're wrong about this position and i'm like okay
so you're saying that babies of incest should be aborted or could be aborted and i'm like no no
we're not saying that at all.
It's like, I know not each individual is saying things,
but like overwhelmingly people are saying,
I am wrong to suggest that when,
like I've heard Ben Shapiro talk about it.
Abortion exceptions for rape and incest.
And I'm like, why incest?
Like I get it, incest is very bad.
Yeah.
I'm not gonna make a Ben Shapiro joke.
That's all right.
I'm not gonna make a Ben Shapiro and his sister joke.
I'm not going to do it.
05.00 I do think too, outside of this, like let's
just like move into general politics with, for like libertarianism and otherwise is a
lot of people just want to assert a moral position they haven't thought about or they
hold moral positions without logic.
And so if, you know, I'm trying to look at a law and understand the logic behind it and why it makes sense, because two pieces have to fit together.
That's important for how the Supreme Court answers things.
For example, in the in the oral arguments on presidential immunity, one of the things that Trump's lawyers were arguing is that you must interpret it this way, because if you don't, here's a list of laws that will break if you change the interpretation of immunity.
And the general concept idea is arguing one facet of law or code or anything like that could have negative impacts across the board and all of the other written law. So that's why the logic of the law makes sense and the application of it and its
nuances make, are extremely important to break down. But a lot of people will be like, you
shouldn't be allowed to do this thing. And I say, okay, if you ban this, then over here, this law
breaks. So like, what do you do in this instance? And there are a lot of people who don't actually
have a logic plan for this.
It's what Thomas Sowell says, though.
There's no solutions, only trade-offs.
What exemptions do we make for murder?
Self-defense.
Correct.
Defense of yourself and defense of others.
Sure.
And war.
So we should make those same exceptions for baby murder.
If you're going to die or you're in grave bodily danger, then there should be an exception.
If not, it's murder.
Well, that's interesting, too, because here's a scenario for you.
A guy is driving a self-driving car, and the car goes out of control.
Oh, actually, I got a better real-world example.
A guy was driving a car. This actually happened. And the car goes out of control. Oh, actually, I got a better, a real world example. A guy was driving a car.
This actually happened.
And the car randomly accelerated.
There was a defect with certain vehicles where the accelerator would just punch it.
And he rear-ended a family and killed three of the family members.
They put him in prison.
Someone's driving a car and the car goes out of control.
You as a bystander are seeing the car move towards an old
lady. Do you think it is legally permissible to kill the man in the car? The only way to stop him
is to, you know, do something that will cause. This is an old argument brought up by Walter
Block a long time ago, by the way. So the reason I'm mentioning is that you said the self-defense
for the life to defend the life of a person or – to defend yourself or the life of another person.
Do you have the right to kill an innocent person to protect other people?
I mean it's the trolley car problem, right?
It's the same –
Well, I don't know.
I don't think innocent person is the right word.
I'm saying –
If he's in a car that malfunctioned, it's an accident and he's an innocent person.
So someone accidentally drops something and it's, he's an innocent person. So someone accidentally, you know, uh, it drops
something and it's about to kill somebody. And the only way you can stop, you can save the other
person is to, to kill the person who was involved in the accident, right? The car is out of control.
He doesn't know what he's doing. He's not intentionally trying to kill someone.
Is it still self-defense to kill that person? Even though there's no murdering,
probably not because you're still killing an innocent person. Now, if the people in the other car were my family i'm probably going to do
it right just like you would murder somebody to protect your family but but this is this is
getting totally to the trolley car conundrum right like where do i have the right to kill
the one person to save the five people jack bauer yeah exactly and and no you don't morally you
don't have the right to kill an innocent
person, even if you think it's going to save
other lives. And now we're getting into World War
II territory and the atomic bombs,
which has also been an argument for a long time.
Another thing I don't agree with. Yeah, so like,
no, you don't. You don't have the right to kill innocent
people morally. So then the exception
for abortion there
does not apply. Why?
So if the baby is not intending,
is an innocent person not intending to kill the mother,
why kill the baby?
At that point you have to,
so there's, first of all, there's a solution, okay?
And the mother has to take precedence at that point.
I mean, the fully formed adult,
and when you're like,
we're talking about two different things here, right? Like one's an an accident and one is unavoidable someone's gonna die no matter what
right and you have an egg or a fetus right depending on what stage it's in and you have
a fully formed mother with a family and all this stuff i mean you have to you have to make a sad
decision at that point this is not an elect and again we're talking about less than one percent
of abortions in the United States.
Right, but we're trying to answer.
You're trying to hash out the moral conundrum.
The moral logic of how we enforce laws.
But at that point, you have to choose.
I mean, you have to, right?
Like one of them is going to die or they're both going to die.
So equal scenario, the same scenario I mentioned, a guy's car is out of control.
If he crashes, he and the woman will die.
Sure. You can divert the car. The car crashes, he and the woman will die. Sure.
You can divert the car. The car will explode and only the man will die. You say you divert the car.
I mean, you might, you might have to. Yeah. I mean, if it's a foregone conclusion that they'll
both die either way, but, but there's also, there's also a chance that you go to jail for
murdering and it's a person. I mean, it's, you know, it's, that's truth. But you're trying to,
you're trying to interact with a situation to save lives. I get that. And there's so many different hypotheticals that we're talking
about right now. But at the end of the day, again, I want to, I want to reiterate it.
99% of baby murders are elective. You know, what's fascinating about the trolley problem is that,
uh, I just totally lost my train of thought. I had a really great point, uh, about it. Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Here we are again. Okay.
What's fascinating about the trolley problem is most people, what was it?
Most people say they would not pull the lever.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't think we actually get to the heart of the trolley problem without telling people
they have legal liabilities.
Right.
I think you tell someone a trolley is heading on a track.
It will run over five people.
Yeah.
If you pull the lever, you'll save
the five people and it'll run over that one person.
And you'll also go to prison for murder.
Right.
Everyone will be in.
Crossing state lines.
And so then you have to do a restriction.
Let's get into the hypotheticals. I like it.
There we go. Let's bring up some more hypotheticals for sure.
Alright, let's stop talking.
As of right now, I posted a poll.
The poll in the chat is, should people be allowed to abort incest babies?
39% yes, 61% no.
We're winning, boys.
We're winning.
I like it.
Look, incest is disgusting, but I think every life is a blessing.
If you're committing that kind of degeneracy, you really need to reevaluate your life anyways.
But yeah.
Yeah.
But I think this kind of breaks it down.
When you've got people in the chat that are saying you should be allowed to abort incest babies.
That's what I was pointing to.
I'm not saying everybody in the chat agrees.
Now it's 40 to 60.
40% now believe incest babies should be aborted.
Should be allowed to be aborted.
40 people that support baby murder.
That's pretty rough.
40%.
That's what I said.
40%. So it's actually 400 because there's 1,024 votes. Yeah. murder. That's pretty rough. 40%. That's what I said. 40%.
So it's actually 400 because there's 1,024 votes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's unfortunate.
I think it's just a cultural thing.
Sounds like you've got a lot of leftists to watch your show.
It's hard to divorce people from the idea of abortion.
That's why I've been training myself to just call it human sacrifice.
I'm going to adopt that.
Because I feel like, and I say that because it happens on such a high level all the time.
There's people celebrating that the no's are winning.
So I'm going to word, I'm going to make a new poll that words it in a way that I can
just decide what it means.
You know, like how pollsters do it.
So we're at, well, here we go.
You see the no's aren't having it.
So now we're up to 1400 votes and rising.
And now no is at 64%.
There we go.
So the people who do not like abortion
are now deciding to step up
and hit that poll button. See, now
we can win on this issue. That's why we have to have these conversations
as crazy as they might be and hard
for people to listen to. You have to have
these conversations. Because there's a lot of people out there
that believe the same thing that I
believe. You are not going to win
on this one. We're going to win on this issue.
Death penalty. What's your position? I'm not for the state I believe and if we're not gonna win on this we're gonna win on this issue
What's your position I am I am not for the state's handing down capital punishment like that here here Yeah, I don't I think that they get it wrong too many times and there's an issue there
So one time is too much one one one one wrong death and and we brought up Kamala Harris in the beginning
And I really wanted to say, you know
She kept someone on death row even though she had the evidence that could have exonerated him and that's your vice president Run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, I totally get that. I totally get it. The problem is it's Kamala Harris who's trying to convince me of that.
It's not my brother coming to me and being like, dude, trust me, man.
This guy's bad news.
We got to do something about this.
It's Kamala Harris.
And every single prosecution has a political element because DAs don't want to lose.
There is a motivation to win that goes beyond just finding out if the person is actually guilty or innocent.
And if you haven't...
Yeah, I was going to say,
if you're making your career
on whether or not someone dies,
it's rough.
Yeah, and if you have a motivation,
then that inherently kind of makes the state
not unbiased.
Well, here, I'll tell you this.
I'm all for families getting retribution
against people that have harmed their children
or whatever.
So, you know, and then if and then if afterwards they find that that person was not the right person, then that family member needs to take accountability for their murder of an innocent person.
You know what I mean? But I am not. I'm not. I think that families that exact their own punishment or revenge against people that have harmed them should
not be held liable, if that makes sense.
I think the death penalty is a really complicated issue because if you have someone, you know,
let's say it's a perfect case.
Confess.
You can confirm with DNA.
It's all there.
And then we just pay for them to be alive for decades.
Like the taxpayers are paying for this person's life.
And that's why I said make Australia a penal colony once again.
Okay.
And New Zealand can be where they manage it. Yes. It's time to, it's life. And that's why I said make Australia a penal colony once again, okay? And New Zealand can be
where they manage it.
Yes.
It's time to,
we need to go back in
and take over Australia
and turn it into a penal colony.
To be fair,
you look at what they did
during COVID
and you're like,
maybe they still are.
They already are.
There's a reason
they went that direction.
It's in their history.
It's in their genes.
But I really actually believe this and maybe not Australia, but I believe this is what
instead of the death penalty and instead of using taxpayer funds to keep people in jail
for 50 years, we should have a penal colony and be like, you're a pedophile or a murderer
or a rapist or whatever.
You go live there.
Goodbye.
And send them.
That's what we should be doing.
We need our own Siberia.
Interesting.
Yes, correct.
Goodbye.
Siberia.
Yes.
Somewhere preferably that cold. I've been been to Alaska and it is very empty.
Yeah.
And there's a,
there's a big opportunity for sending all of the federal employees there
because it'll start terraforming the region.
We talked about this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then the Alaskans were like,
no,
my Alaskan friend was like,
please don't do that.
If you,
if you somehow win in 2020,
we already have heart.
We don't need any other problems. It's hard enough here on
us already. Just let us keep our little oils
tight and leave us alone. I have
successfully created a poll that allows me to
give any answer I want on the abortion question.
What's your question? How do you say this? Should incest babies
be exempted from abortion law? Oh, geez.
Nobody's going to know how to answer that. It's 50-50.
Everybody's like, what?
Well, the point is, the abortion
law is a vague, it's a nebulous statement.
It's meaningless.
The abortion law could be for or against abortion.
We've done an hour on abortion now.
It's at 54 to no.
They should not be exempted from it.
I'm happy that we've done an hour on abortion.
You know why?
Because we get to talk about it.
It's actually been 16 minutes.
Has it only been 16 minutes?
It's only been 16 minutes.
Since we started talking about abortion?
No way.
I have a timer.
You have an abortion timer?
I have a timer you have an abortion timer
I have a timer for when segments start and end. No smart. We track them write them down. That's how we make the segments
Actually, we actually actually shifted into a death penalty. Yeah, we did shift into the death penalty. That's true. That's true. Yeah
Pro-life you got to be pro-life, right? Across the board.
Whenever somebody's like, oh, I'm pro-life,
I'm like, are you anti-war? And they're like,
no. I'm like, I'm pro-life, but I love bombs and war.
I like bombs and innocent dead
children across the world.
Children everywhere else. It's whatever.
Yeah.
Not for me.
Anti-war, anti-death penalty, but I'm all for a penal colony for sure.
Do you think...
Guys, we got to talk about the solar flare.
I mean, we got 10 minutes for Super Chats and we haven't even got into the fact that
the world's going to end tonight.
And we're laughing like morons.
There are already significantly impressive pictures of auroras hitting Twitter.
They're all over the place.
I've been...
You mean, so there's already
significant we can see them outside right now they say really you might be they might be so
strong that you can see them through the clouds space lasers really through the clip so what are
these shane tell me well harp is attacking me directly i think uh narcissistic it's about you
yeah that's posted every day yeah non-stop that guy that guy makes great pizzas. Cannibal is the word of the year.
Has anyone noticed this?
It's funny to me that the solar problem is now the cannibal thing.
We had the cannibal barbecue in Haiti.
Oh, that's right.
We had that one actor like a year or two ago who was a cannibal, supposedly.
When I was in Vegas, a man ate someone's face at the 7-Eleven down the road.
On bath salts?
I don't even know.
I think he was just hungry.
I don't know if it was bath salts.
Grocery prices are crazy these days.
And now the sun's a cannibal.
Let me tell you, I know.
My Costco bill went from $800 a month to about $1,200 a month.
But that's because you have a baseball team to feed.
Yeah, but can you imagine inflation on a family like mine right now?
It's killing us.
I don't know.
I don't know what's going on with this.
It's crazy because it could do some damage but
it might just be another uh eclipse you know everyone freaks out about we're just a couple
of months out from an election okay they need some kind of wild thing to point to right look
we're laughing at the covid regime now right we're all laughing at him we're like we're definitely
not falling for this again so the bet nespect thing is turn off all the internet well they've
been talking about the the internet apocalypse for a year and they've
been connecting it to solar flares,
which I don't think from what I've heard from other people who hit me up
about this,
that's not really the case with solar flares.
It might actually take out ham radios first,
but that's according to people who say they know stuff.
Take your antennas off.
Take your antennas off.
Hey,
if you've got,
if you've got like ham radios and stuff,
disconnect,
disconnect,
disconnect your antennas. So that way they're not, you know, hereios and stuff, disconnect your antennas.
So that way they're not, you know.
Here's the crazy thing, though.
Antennas and wires and cables and stuff are what actually conduct the electricity and stuff.
Ham radio runs on the same technology as 5G.
Interesting.
It was like the original.
Are you sure?
Original 5G?
Are you sure, though?
Yeah, pretty sure.
Because I'm pretty sure 5G.
Let's look it up. They're all pretty sure 5G is a super high frequency.
Well, ham is a low frequency.
I thought ham was low and 5G is high.
Ham is UHF and VHF, which are varying ultra high frequencies. Yeah, 5G frequencies are super compact to contain a lot of data.
Don't quote me, but I'm pretty sure that they have
a very similar technology.
Welcome to Science Fridays
on IRL.
Mystery Science Theater.
They're all just,
they're all actually
the same technology
except for the,
it's all radio waves.
Especially when you
don't understand it.
It's just rebranded
magnetic waves, you know.
And then Harry Potter
just shoots one to the air
and that's all you get
the level.
I just don't understand science. Yes, I know. So ham radio is 1.6 megahertz to 1,240 megahertz.
5G is 450 megahertz to 6 gigahertz.
That's very high.
Which is, we can go back to HAARP frying the ionosphere.
But there's an overlap.
With its hertz, with its frequencies.
And I just think HAARP is a problem.
I think when you play God with
machines. What is it?
It's bouncing radio waves off
the ionosphere? Ionosphere, yeah.
Which does, I think, and I've talked
to people who believe this as well,
who know things, Hannah Clare,
about
cryptochromes. Cryptochromes in birds' eyes,
migratory birds' eyes,
they've been affected by problems with the ionosphere.
I think, personally, that HAARP is messing with that.
Like, look at messing with the clouds in Dubai, what happened.
I think when you play God, it doesn't go well.
So this is like, there's a bunch of news stories saying it's debunked,
but Dubai did a cloud seeding operation, which they do normally.
It's, what is it, potassium chloride or something?
They drop in the sky, which basically adds weight to the water molecules and they fall.
And then they had mass flooding.
And I think it was Bloomberg that reported cloud seeding causes mass or contributes to the mass flooding causing a disaster.
And then a day later, all these corporate press outlets are like, no, no, debunked.
Didn't happen.
Shills for Big Cloud.
If you know anything about Big Cloud, there's shills.
But I won't get started on that.
But I'm just saying, when you mess around with stuff like this, and it's just interesting
to me that they called it harp, which angels in the Bible don't play the harp.
Right.
But people do associate angels with harps, probably because Greek mythology and a lot
of those types of angelic figures were playing harps
They shouldn't be messing around ionosphere. I don't know if that's crazy or the the particle
Dude, don't get me started on CERN if you want to hear more about this
Inverted world live will be this Sunday
These are the things that concern me I would love to come talk about yeah that stuff says it's all messing
I think there were there were actual lawsuits about CERN
There was a whole there was a whole conspiracy theory that the world ended in like 2012
We're all living in purgatory right now. That's why the whole thing is possible. That's why the whole thing is different
like that's why they're having the
Mandela effect last time CERN was
Supposedly blasted blasting particles Shinzo Abe was assassinated in that same week. The Guidestones were blown up
That is also wild to the Guidestones were blown up. That is also wild
too. The Guidestones blew up.
Did they rebuild those? Well, I did
talk to the guy who collected the debris from the Guidestones
and he was weird.
He was putting them in his museum.
He wants to rebuild them, but everyone in that area
doesn't want to rebuild them because everyone in that area
most of the locals believe that they're
bad because they're
eugenicist propaganda.
And nobody really knows who made them,
who paid for them.
Yeah, well, it depends who you talk to.
No, I mean, there's an official...
There's the RCE Christian guy,
which is a pseudonym, supposedly.
The argument is at the height of the Cold War,
there was a fear that we'd wipe ourselves out
in nuclear annihilation.
So they created the Guidestones
in the event humanity get blown up.
However, that doesn't happen. People look
back on them, and they look at it now
as a plan to enact, as
opposed... So it's either...
Sorry, that just doesn't sound as cool, Tim. We're gonna
have to go with the original conspiracy theory that it was
a plan. No, that's actually
the later conspiracy. Originally
it was, hey, we might all die in a
nuclear annihilation. Here's how you restart the
Earth. And the crazy thing is it's got like...'t didn't it have i say it's got it's gone didn't it have
like a thing to track the sun's position yeah and you have like math and stuff on it all the
different languages and then there was a time capsule supposedly but they all the police told
me there was no time capsule when they dug it up really uh the languages thing is really important
because of the rosetta stone for instance yes we're like
basically we don't know what the egyptians were saying there's a picture of a snake seven times
right and then we find the rosetta stone and we're like yo we can translate greek to egyptian
now suppose there's a replica in japan still i don't know the guide stones that's what i've been
hearing i haven't looked i haven't seen the images but it's interesting to me that shinzo
was taken out around the same time but that's just me i'm the charlie day meme uh with the guy and
all the things connecting that's my brain but uh i the Charlie Day meme with the guy and all the things connecting.
That's my brain.
But I don't think we should be messing with
the media stuff.
The photos of the storm,
it's already crazy.
And it's wild
because it's red.
I went to Alaska in December
and right when we landed
in Fairbanks,
right when we got out
of the airport,
we looked up and I was like,
oh, hey, look at that.
And it was minus 30.
So I've got icicles
forming all over my face.
And the rental car key didn't work
because it was frozen.
And so Allison is like,
get a picture, get a picture.
And I'm like, I'm going to turn the car on
and worry about it.
And then as soon as the car turned on,
it just, it was gone.
And then we didn't see it again.
We had a negative 30 day in Iowa this last year.
It's fun.
We deal with a pretty cold winter.
Negative 30, it's great.
You get icicles forming on your eyelashes.
Your mustache freezes the second you walk outside.
Every single time.
It does not sound fun.
So I don't know if they're saying this is going to be as big as the Carrington event,
which means we might see substations blow up.
Yeah, that's what we were talking about today on uh the culture war there were two
uh dudes that have survival states and stuff uh and i mean look i don't know for sure but it is
something that people are talking about like normies quote unquote are talking about it so
they've been peppering it into the corporate press for a year now which i think a lot of
people are talking about but then we had uh suspicious observers space weather Ben on Culture War, where we talked about the Earth turning upside
down. He's been following this. According to him, he follows this stuff very closely. He thinks
there's a 10% chance of that kind of thing happening, like really bad stuff. What if the
shadow campaign is this? The reason why they don't care about Joe Biden, the reason why they don't
care about Trump, the reason why they don't care about the polls is that what really happens is the grid gets knocked out for a month. And then we,
it's like October 27th. And then there's a massive geo storm hits and this is the primer.
So it's like, this happens then, you know, like in September, they say we're forecasting another
major solar storm to hit the earth. It's going to, it could be as bad as the Carrington event.
We all saw this happen. Everyone get ready. October 27th, boom, communications go down
and we're all sitting around going, what's going on? And then the power's out until like November
20th. And then we wake up and they're like, Kamala Harris is president.
What did the evil people learn about the last few years is that we use the internet to subvert
their narrative. And now they want to take that from that's true we did use i mean yes the the way that we've been
trying to get our language back has been through exactly and people found that language and there's
a lot of people who don't agree with the power class yeah who who have a language now that could
subvert them and they don't want us to do that and whether you love them or hate them elon helped
give us some of that back too on twitter. Yeah, shout out to that. If communications
got knocked out, that's how it
used to be. It used to be that
you'd go to vote and then
two months after the election, or
maybe a month, a pony rider
brought up the paper and they were like, oh, that's
who won. Last month, they swore him in,
huh? Dude, I've just been up here farming.
If the power goes out again, Hillary Clinton could go to
Harlem and pull out hot sauce from her purse and not get in trouble and ragged about it on
like she did that's right because she can just go and be whatever that area needs her but let's be
serious think about this if the if the if the communications did go down and you try like
google nothing worked the internet was knocked out it would gem up the economy real bad something
fierce it would really shuffle up the
economy but let's be real when the grid comes back on and they come out and say kamala Harris
is president or joe biden there's going to be no there's there's going to be no argument right now
no more doubt well it's because people can go back and be like how come on this day
during the election cnn ran these numbers but then these numbers how come this these people were seen on video in a viral video of being blocked from viewing
the counting process.
They get rid of all of the surveillance footage.
They get rid of all of the questionable footage of people who can't see in the windows are
being boarded up.
And then all they can say is most secure election we've ever had.
And you're good.
And like, if the grid went down,
they could literally just go,
all right, everybody, election's off.
We're just gonna say Biden won, done.
And no one can prove otherwise
because all evidence has been destroyed
by the solar flare.
What if that backfires on them
and actually causes widespread maximum distrust?
It will.
And then people like on a massive scale
reject anything they're told.
05.00 It'd be worse than massive distrust.
05.00 Then how about this? What if the grid goes down for four months?
05.00 I think it's dystopian.
05.00 What is it, 21 days for a routine or something?
05.00 Yeah.
05.00 Most people realign themselves to the new economic order when the communication
grid goes down. And then when it finally comes back up, no one's asking who the president
is. They're asking, what do I got gotta do today to get my loaf of bread?
Yeah, the president might be useless.
I thought that.
He's just so international to them.
You're just making arguments to get on propane,
first of all.
Second of all, start stocking food, start storing food.
If you're not prepping by now, I'm sorry.
Yeah, it's time to start prepping.
It's been time to start prepping for a while.
Especially if you've got kids.
We were saying that, we were talking today,
if you go to FEMA's website, a lot of people don't like to think about like doing
prepping stuff because they're like, oh, it makes me weird.
And let's show on History Channel and blah, blah, blah.
And they feel like they're weirdos or whatever.
If you go to FEMA's website, that is, you know, the Federal Emergency Management Agency
or whatever, like they have a list of, and that's what the government recommends.
That's not like weirdo outside of crazy person stuff.
It's just the stuff the government recommends.
And if you do that, you're ahead of the game.
You're significantly ahead of the game.
This is a really easy campaign promise for me.
If you vote for me, I won't cyber attack you.
You say that now, but what if you really don't like us once they talk to you?
As candidate for president, have you been checked for brain worms?
I have not, no.
But my wife is very, very big into the anti-parasite stuff, so I'm sure if I had them, I would
know by now.
She would let me know.
We're going to go to Super Chats, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that
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TokenBlackGuy with the first one saying,
howdy people. No Clint today,
just TokenBlackGuy. He takes the
first Super Chat.
Let's see, what does it say?
It's always hard to tell if it's an M, R, or an N.
If it's an R and an N next to each other, so I think it's
Loomis. Hey Tim, been watching you for
years. My sister just had twins
and I'm wanting to fly out to meet them,
but cannot afford it.
My Venmo is Samjda.
Good luck, sir.
Maybe someone super chatted money
to be sent to a random person.
So I guess that's a thing that's happening now.
Wow.
All right.
Owen Frechette says,
could give a,
I think he's meant to say,
could you give a shout out
to my brilliant and beautiful wife, Molly McGuire?
It's her first Mother's Day, and I just want her to know how much I love and appreciate everything she does for our daughter.
Shout out, Molly.
Mother's Day is Sunday.
If you have a mom or a wife, maybe you should do something about that.
The only day I'll be home in the next two and a half weeks.
Wow.
Good.
Well planned.
Thank God.
Love you, babe.
I'll see you Sunday.
David Dorr says,
Tim, you were absolutely
right about prisons
on the culture war this morning.
As a former guest of the state,
I can corroborate.
Most would leave,
but prisons are extremely secure
and they have vehicles,
weapons, fuel, and food.
So we were talking about prepping
and I said,
in the event of a collapse,
prisons become Fort marauder.
Oh, sure.
They're going to open up everything, and then they're going to use that as a fortification because as hard as it is to get out, it's hard to get in.
Hard to get in, yeah.
And so they're going to have weapons.
They're going to have vehicles.
They're going to have resources, and they're going to go marauding, and then they're going to come back and store everything in this fortress.
I believe that, yeah.
Definitely.
Definitely. I've also watched The Walking Dead. I was going to say, I was thinking what zombie movie did they do everything in this fortress. I believe that, yeah. Definitely. I've also watched
The Walking Dead. I was going to say, I was thinking
what zombie movie did they do that in?
Walking Dead. There are ideas that I have that
I'm not going to say because it's a TOS.
I'm just thinking that, dude. I'm bugging out
to Appalachia for sure. You've got to keep
some things close to the chest.
You've got a lot of water, you've got rivers, you've got wells,
and it's mountainous and easy to defend.
It's like our own little Afghanistan. That's right right it is all right brian egon says howdy people tim i award
this 100 to the super cheddar of your choice a sort of pay it forward if you like have fun
oh man they're doing some cool things in your chats there dude yeah i paid a couple people's
rent this week oh that's really that's really nice. That's awesome. And so
we
do have one person who wants to fly to see
his sister, who just had twins.
Twins.
That's so many nieces and or nephews.
Maybe that will be the
$100 that someone is gifting.
Epic Gamer says, not a coffee drinker,
but Casper coffee is good. Can't wait
for Casper tea. If you ever make it, make sure
you do loose leaf and CTC,
not just tea bags. As for flavors,
consider Ceylon and Earl Grey.
Go back to Britain.
Hey, I like tea.
Earl Grey. I vote Earl Grey.
I vote coffee, man. I'm a coffee guy. I drink a lot
of coffee. I'm drinking Earl Grey right now.
You got seven kids? No.
Russell W. says, hi Tim. Today my HVAC failed in my workshop. I'm a small of coffee. I'm drinking Earl Grey right now. You got seven kids? No. Russell W. says,
Hi, Tim.
Today, my HVAC failed in my workshop.
I'm a small ringmaker.
Can't run machinery
till I can afford to fix it.
Gets over 100 degrees without it.
Anything helps.
Love the show.
And then he lists his Venmo,
Russell Warner.
I don't know.
What's more important?
Visiting your newborn twin niece and nephew
or having your workshop
be able to be worked in.
What size is his HVAC?
Where does he live?
I do HVAC.
I can come fix him.
You want to return to the hypotheticals about abortion,
or should we just decide people's fates in the Super Chats?
Ringmaker is cool, though.
There used to be a guy who would Super Chat
into a pop culture Christ all the time
who was like a goldsmith in Texas.
Wow.
I feel like careers where you make actual things
are very cool.
Yeah, and there's fewer and fewer people
that do that too.
I knew a guy who's,
because I grew up in New England,
probably you knew guys who do this,
but who knew how to like stack the stones
to make those like iconic stone walls.
And his son had very serious addiction problems.
He was raising his grandson
and he died before his grandson was very old.
So like that trade that he had
learned from his grandfather, would learn it from his grandfather,
just completely went away with him.
When I still lived in Oakland, I started my own
handyman business and I
did lath and plaster.
And I come to find out that everybody who was good
at lath and plaster was dead.
So I was getting calls every day
because there's tons of lath and plaster in the city
still in San Francisco and Oakland. Yeah, and so they were calling me in tons of Latham plaster in the city still in San Francisco.
And old houses, too, if you know how to do it.
Yeah, and so they were calling me in to do Latham plaster all the time.
I was making money.
Cornered the money.
Yeah, it was good.
All right, Beavis McLean says, Phil, the new single Divine is awesome.
The vocals and drums are just next level.
Keep up the great work.
Phil's never going to get tired of this.
I hope to catch all that remains in Megadeth on the road this summer.
Thank you so much.
Absolutely not.
Why on earth?
Are you kidding me? Dude, I'm going to drive to Minneapolis to see you.
It is such a massive
compliment. I'm so
appreciative of every single one.
Phil hates islands.
Listen, I don't do the booking.
I love Split Knot. I want to put that on the record.
Everybody in Des Moines has
a story twice removed from Corey
Taylor or something. Every single person.
That's because he still lives up there.
Dude, I know somebody who saw him running down the street naked at 3 o'clock in the morning.
That doesn't surprise me at all.
Wow.
I feel bad for Alicia sometimes.
All right.
Pim's the Great says, howdy, Tim and crew.
I threw my shoulder out a couple weeks ago tilling my garden.
Doc said I need to avoid doing it again.
Have a give send go for a small
tractor look up him the tractor i don't know i think the guy's workshop is the is the current
leader yeah that's where my gut is just because he's got to take care of himself it's a toss-up
for him and the and the twins i get seen the twins but it's unfortunately not your kids and
this guy's got to got to work i'd love a new tractor too buddy i think we all would for sure
it's tough we're looking into getting some guy
he races his
lawnmower. We're gonna get him a wrap
because we got Cody Dennison's
ARCA racer, NASCAR
wrapped Tim Kass' car.
And so someone super chatted like,
I race lawnmowers. You wanna wrap it? I was like,
yes we do. Nice. We're just supporting American
culture everywhere that it is. I saw that you guys did that
on the NASCAR wrap. That was really cool.
That was a pretty cool thing. My mom watches NASCAR.
I don't, but my mom does for sure.
Alright.
Rodney says, my brother almost died from quitting
alcohol. He is home now, but they drained
13 to 15 gallons of fluid from his body.
His girlfriend set up a GoFundMe to help with
the bills and calling all neighbors in the friendly
neighborhood. Anything can help them right now.
Oh, wow. Does that beat the guy who needs his air conditioning fixed it might dude it's pretty
tough it's a close i mean can you do a poll make them decide i don't want to i don't want to decide
this you should make the chat decide it's always a question of like do you support a lot to one
person or like do you give small amounts to several people. Wait, this guy went through all this after being a heavy drinker?
Yeah.
Is that what he said?
Mm.
Mm.
That's a tough one.
He said it says...
Oh, it's a GoFundMe, though.
That makes it tough.
Oof, yeah.
Yeah, we like gifts and go here.
GoFundMe is super woke, and they ban good people who need real help.
And so I don't want to hold that against you, though.
But maybe.
Maybe.
All right, we'll grab some more Super Chats.
Right now, it's basically like a shark tank of need.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Wow.
TokenBlackEye says, hey, Tim, here's $10 to pass forward to a lucky Super Chatter for pizza.
Also, Phil, can I get a yeah?
Yeah!
Yeah!
So it's up to $110 now to give to a person in need.
Look at that.
That's super cool.
Operation Outstanding in Field says Shane Drew here for your show.
Would you like to have me on and talk about my coma fever dream hours after getting diagnosed
with GBS?
It's the stuff of nightmares and life survival.
Exactly.
That's exactly what I want to hear about.
Hitting dreams are crazy. Oh, if it's the Drew,
I think it is. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely hit me up,
dude. You were in a coma? No, I wasn't.
One of my step grandparents was, and he
came out of it talking crazy. Oh, yeah.
Really in a coma? For like
a long period, right? Holy shit, dude.
I'm glad you made it. Yeah.
Yeah, his story's actually pretty wild. He got knocked into
a coma, and then
he was like
on a roller coaster into this weird city
where a small monkey creature
rode the thing back up into his body
and then was running around
doing flips and stuff and jumping over cars.
This was in your coma, you saw that?
No, no, no. The monkey entity took over
his body and woke up, and then he
was in this weird coma world where he had to take over Chris Kattan's dead body.
I love that movie.
Yes.
Yes.
We don't say.
I was like, where are we going now?
Does anybody.
Oh, I knew you were going there.
I just haven't heard.
I couldn't think of Chris Kattan's name, dude.
It's such a.
I love that.
That's right.
I love that.
I knew it wasn't real, but I never get movie reference.
Brendan Fraser and Chris Kattan.
He takes over the dead Olympic gymnast's body.
I haven't seen that in a long time.
That was a good movie.
That was a cheesy good movie.
Right, right, cheesy, but we enjoy it for its badness.
Have you seen the movie John Travolta that came out not too long ago
that's directed by Fred Durtz from...
I heard about it.
Is this like the action movie or whatever?
No, he's like a stalker.
He's like an autistic stalker, and he's stalking a famous actor.
And the famous actor is... What what's the guy from idle hands?
And little giants and devin sawa. Okay. Oh
And it's it actually it's like so cheesy, but it was really really good funny. You should check it
I can't remember the name of it. Fred durst, huh? Fred durst. Wow, he's back
That's why I said i'm running as president and I promised to make
Fred durst is a registered member of the libertarian party. Is he really?
I want him to be the poet laureate of the country.
So if you become president, could you hit him up?
The newest Limp Bizkit record is great.
Dad vibes.
It's awesome.
It's a great record.
It's called Dad Vibes?
I'm pretty sure.
I know there's a song called Dad Vibes.
I'm not sure.
And the last song on that record.
Are you saying it's pro-family?
Are you saying it's pro-natalist?
Yes.
The last song on that record is actually better than most like 90s pop music as well.
I was born in 1983 i
i proudly went to limp biscuit concerts and they were insane absolutely yeah i mean and also sorry
i know we don't talk about limp biscuit forever but they also are part of family values yes so
there is a there's a family theme here yeah yeah i like it so we just got a super chat from the
bearded fatsman says watch the show every night diagnosed with leukemia last month self-employed
and struggling with business and medical bills.
Everything helps.
Give, send, go.
Kyle's fight against leukemia.
That's the guy.
That's the one we got to help there.
Leukemia is rough.
It's a tough one.
Good luck.
God bless you, man.
Sorry.
Whoa, really?
That's terrible.
Oh, there's actually a whole bunch of GoFundMes titled that.
Oh, well.
Uh-oh. Yeah.
This is tough. Is it up to you
to decide this at the end?
It's up to everybody.
I think the chat should decide.
The chat, yeah.
I don't like having to decide.
Are there any questions at all in there?
Are we going to talk about any questions?
I don't know that I can actually find this,
my friend.
Don't put me in charge of that stuff. Yeah, I should get the money? I don't know that I can actually find this, my friend. I don't know. Don't put me in charge
of that stuff.
Yeah,
I searched for that title
and it didn't come up.
Kyle's Fight Against Leukemia
Give, Send, Go.
It's not finding it.
Let me try,
let me try a broader,
broader search.
Drag.
Yeah.
But in the meantime,
yeah, a little kid.
Oh, man.
Now I gotta give this kid money. Yeah.
Well, he's over his goal, actually.
Oh, wait, no, he's about to hit his goal. Okay, I gotta give this kid money.
This is just some little kid.
Like helping people peripherally now?
Yeah, no, I just searched, and this is a little kid. He's got leukemia.
Yeah. What is this?
Oh, man. Four years old.
Oh, geez.
Terrible.
All right.
He needs a couple grand.
Maybe we should just like scroll through gives and go all the time.
Be like, support you, this one.
Yeah.
You can pull it up and put it like in the super chat.
Do you think people prioritize charitable giving enough?
Or do you think especially in economically hard times, people sort i think the trend i think charitable giving is has been uh off
outsourced to the government people think that taxes are there's a social safety net there's
taxes so charitable giving does not exist for people that are not religious and uh i think that
i think that that's i think they've seen that in studies I'm not sure I've heard that as
our community sort of fell apart one of the first things to go was charitable giving and it's
actually something that people talk about in relation to women staying at home because typically
in Indiana University had the school of philanthropy to study on this women tend to be
the people who decide the charitable giving like if you have a family budget you're like well this
is where these things are going.
And so as we focus more on work all the time and individualize ourselves,
these structures that we have
that would have normally been the ones to be like,
okay, now we've got to make a decision
about who we're helping.
They fell apart.
So the aid isn't there.
Charity, they ask you for charity everywhere now.
Like you check out at Petco or supermarket,
they want an extra 10 cents for such and such.
Oh dude, no, my favorite thing was
someone filmed a video where they went to a grocery store,
and it was self-checkout only,
and the self-checkout asked for a tip afterwards.
No, for real.
Yeah, it was like 5, 10, 20%,
and they were like, who am I tipping?
America's the only culture that does this.
I would have stole a bag of chips just on principle.
Man.
That's ridiculous.
We're the only culture that does that shit.
I'm taking some Reese's penis and I'm getting out of here.
I'm not anti-tipping, but it's gotten to a point in the United States.
I'm anti-tipping robots.
There was a female comedian who said that she doesn't like tipping, especially when
you're at a coffee shop and you're doing most of the work yourself.
She's like, I work here now.
You pay me.
That's how I feel about the self-checkout at the grocery store.
You should get a discount because you're now an employee I always like when they ask you if
the amount is okay I'm like can I negotiate because it's not it's not yeah it's not okay
I don't like it all right uh Brad Marklin says Tim please state what cutoff you'd be okay banning
there is some who have even considered partial and post-birth abortion no time for a full cutoff i
don't know what you mean like he's asking where you think the cutoff should be for abortion yeah
well i said this last night in the members only show the simple the solution is actually really
simple sorry when the woman goes into an abortion clinic you uh she signs the paperwork and you're
like are you sure this is what you want to do she says yes say right this way you sit you lay her
down then you administer anesthetic which will keep her in a medically induced coma for nine months.
And then when she wakes up, you just say, procedure's done.
I'm kidding.
Holy crap.
Her family doesn't wonder where she went.
That was pretty base, Tim.
I'm not going to lie, dude.
That's what was going on in that brainwashing camp in Canada.
Medically, yeah.
Put you in a coma for a year.
Whoa.
There's no easy answer for the abortion question. Because like I was saying before, that's right. Put you in a coma for a year. Whoa. There is no easy answer for
the abortion question, because like I was saying before, it's a spear. There's no battleground.
There's no fence. You cannot stand in the middle. It doesn't exist. So I think ultimately what it
comes down to is the 14th Amendment says that a person can't be deprived of life without due
process. And I believe that human beings are persons persons there's no legal distinction in and there's no logical or scientific distinction between
a baby gestated at eight and a half months and a baby just dated at uh eight and a half months
that was born they're the exact same level of development and so i've asked this of every
pro-choice person they can't give me an answer what is the legal distinction between two babies
that were conceived at the exact same
moment? They're both gestated to eight and a half months. And then one woman goes into an early
labor. They deliver the baby. The moment that baby touches air, it's now got due process rights.
But because it hasn't touched air, it has no due process rights. Doesn't make sense.
So what's the logic in the law for that? I think whether anyone wants to accept it or not,
and whether my opinion matters, it doesn't, a Supreme Court ruling on the 14th Amendment would be abortions require a judge's sign-off.
Now, whether or not you want to say with medical exemptions and for contraception, whatever, it doesn't matter.
A judge still has to sign off on it because a person has due process rights.
And that being said, ultimately,
I think that turns into is abortions over because judges won't sign off on it. But this means all
in like almost every circumstance, the judge would sign off on issues where the mother's life is in
jeopardy and things like that. There would be emergency hearings. Those already exist. A lot
of pro-abortion people are like, well, then what if a
woman's in a serious medical emergency and they need to act now and they can't? It's like, yeah,
they already have courts for this where a judge can be contacted in moments. Like we're talking
with like minutes to an hour or whatever. So I don't think that's the issue. Seamus Coughlin
brings up a good point. When the left says there will be back alley abortions, he goes, yeah, of course.
Yeah.
Right.
And, and, and, and there will be very few of them and there will be overwhelmingly no
abortions.
So that's, well, that's the thing is like murder, murder and robbery and theft.
These things are dangerous and they're supposed to be dangerous.
Right.
So like, yeah, there's going to be back alley abortions and people can die from back alley
abortions and good.
I mean, at the end of the day, it should be dangerous to commit murder.
I don't want them to die.
I don't want them to die, but it should be dangerous.
Work on your messaging because someone will take that right away and be like,
well, people will die?
Good.
Well, there you go.
It should be dangerous to commit murder.
It should be.
Just say and work on the messaging.
Hal Gailey says, a baby conceived in rape is not a second assault on the woman.
It's a second victim of the rape.
Make that POV, the prevailing one, fix the premise.
And I understand this too.
The argument from the right on this one is that the attack on the woman is not the rape.
It's the rape and the entire duration of the pregnancy to which the baby has to be born.
So in that argument, it's I'm sorry this happened to you ma'am but the pregnancy already happened
to you that's the point that's that's where you you have the conservative argument on saying no
exceptions for rape and we don't and we're not in the business of punishing the innocent children
of criminals with death right all right brad margland says no you're right tim incest shouldn't
count but birth defects from it or if if it's rape, should count.
Incest babies are still alive.
So this person, I believe, says there should be an exception for rape.
Cain Abel says, pro-life conservative, Tim.
No babies should be murdered.
It is not the baby's fault for the sins of the father or both mother and the father.
Those are my people there.
What we do is we take the baby out we put it in a bag in one of the where they grow the goats and
they grow a person and then the baby is they are working on an artificial how do you think they
make the moment the moment the moment you get an artificial womb abortion is illegal yeah because
it's just gonna like that's the problem right now the logic of democrats is when RFK Jr. says, even if it's full term, it's like, why kill it?
If a woman wants to end the pregnancy or needs to end the pregnancy, why kill the baby?
Yep.
I've never gotten a real answer.
That's why I keep saying human sacrifice.
It's like they fetishize the violence of it.
Like when there's ways to protect it.
It's a murder cult.
Yeah.
It's a murder cult.
It stems out of this
nihilism. When they're coming out of the abortion clinics, handing the pictures of their unborn baby
to pro-life people saying, that's the baby I'm going to murder. It's a murder cult. It's a
murder cult. Yeah. Holm Bryant says, I thought incest was illegal for medical reasons. No. In
fact, in some states it is legal. New York, I believe you're legally allowed to gay marry your
cousin. Really? Yeah. In New York? Yeah. New York state allows believe you're legally allowed to gay marry your cousin. Really? Yeah.
In New York?
Yeah, New York State allows.
Can you straight marry your cousin?
Yes.
New York is such a weird state. So New York is a state where you can marry your cousin and get gay married, which means
you can gay marry your cousin.
There's already a meme of me calling Clint Russell, Kurt Russell tonight.
There's already a meme of me going around.
Thanks a lot to Dan Smots. I don't think you're getting his endorsement you know no it
listen we were calling him kurt russell in georgia so that's why i said that plissken is now the vice
president they were calling him uh kurt russell mccarthy because he was doing the inquisition
about covid stuff to jacob hornberger richard slammer says tim by definition incest is non-consensual it's a
form of rape a parent forces on a child that some people argue to normalize it by so-called brosis
consent almost never happens a straw man that's not the point the point is the leak that the term
legally incest refers to familial sex it could be it could be brothers and sisters yeah okay so but what if what if it's a 40 year old parent with a 20 year old uh that's degenerate disgusting penal colony yeah so arrest no i don't
know i don't know well there's an argument for uh that's degeneracy they definitely need to leave
yeah like polite society are there blasphemy laws in a in your libertarian president not to not to go too
crazy but it's something i think about a lot i mean a lot of people in my perfect world sure
yeah but can those exist in this country i don't think so yeah i don't think they could we were
built on it we're built i believe that we were built as a christian nation with the right to
freedom of of religion right and and free will and And free will, yeah. So like 70% of the population
in the United States today
calls themselves
some type of denomination
of Christian right now.
Yeah, right.
70%.
And I'm sure that the founding
was meant to be
more Christian than that.
But there is,
it's written into our founding documents
that we have free will.
I would question,
70% of people will say
they're Christian.
I don't think that 70% of...
They're not practicing.
Only 40% of us have ever read the Bible.
They're as Christian as Biden is.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that it's...
And I think that they're actually not even...
They don't even behave like Christians anymore, though.
No, what they mean is,
my parents got me baptized.
We went to church a couple times when I was a kid.
So I'm going to say this.
It's very different.
And I think this is interesting
because I think you'll see
people who turn to religion
as one of these
segments in culture.
You'll have a lot of people,
atheism was one of the,
atheism and agnosticism
were the two,
one of the two
fastest growing religions.
I think the Pew Research Center
has a poll on this
and people are always like,
oh, this is crazy.
But is it actually crazy?
Because I think this is the culture we're in.
They don't want you to be any religion at all.
They don't want you to be Christian in America because that's too close to what the Founding Fathers wanted.
But on top of that, they want you to believe in nothing and not have families and to be alone and to be completely self-absorbed.
So, like, I am an agnostic and I don't have – this isn't a spiritual thing that I'm talking about,
but the left wants you to be anti-Christian.
Well, they don't want you to have any community.
No, they want you to be anti-Christian.
The project that the left does is all anti-family, anti-Christian.
Marx called him,
there was times where Marx would call himself the antichrist.
Like the whole left is about tearing down the things that people consider
quote unquote good.
And we get our conception of good from the Judeo Christian,
uh,
such thing.
I,
whatever.
Um,
you know what,
you know what I'm talking about?
I don't want to fight about,
I know,
I don't,
I don't like Jesus Christ. You people are autistic. Like, Jesus Christ, you people are autistic.
But the point is, the point is, the point is, yeah, the point is they want to tear down
like all of the things that Western society is built on, like all of the things that make
our society work.
If you need any proof of that, just look at the look at the communist revolution in Russia
where they actually had to excommunicate and kill the Orthodox Christians.
That's how it's part Christians. It's part of the
playbook, man. We're up to
235 and people
have superchatted saying, you know, give it to someone else.
There is this dude, Alto Native, said he lives
in his car and he needs new tires.
Needs the help, but he did not link a Venmo
or GoFundMe or anything like that. Bummer.
Did you see that story about the homeless woman
who's been living on the roof of a
building, like behind their sign sign for over a year?
No.
She had like a computer up there.
She had some appliances.
Is there a term now for that kind of thing?
They call it frogging where people are living secretly in a place.
Yeah, I've heard that too.
But also sometimes I think frogging is like specific to residential.
I don't know.
Maybe it can be applied commercially. Did you ever see the home video
of that,
that there was that family
that lived in their apartment
and there was like this space
above their front door
like randomly.
It had like a kind of like a door on it.
And then they put in a camera
because they kept hearing noises and stuff
and there was someone living up there
in their apartment.
There's a whole TV show called Frogging.
Oh really?
It's crazy to me.
It's creepy.
I can't watch a lot of it.
I saw a video where
someone was complaining
about noises at night
and they would
like
it got bad
where they called the police
a couple times
the police came in
looked around
and couldn't find anything
so they installed a camera
and then they actually
saw someone crawl
out of the ceiling
into the kitchen
and started taking food
and then crawled back up
the show that I was watching
again it's called Frogging
and you know
every episode
there's like a couple stories
and this one mom was like yeah like I noticed a lot of sodas were going missing.
But I had a bunch of teenagers.
And she was saying one night she had a young daughter who was like spending the night in her bed, you know, had a bedroom or whatever.
And at one point she woke up and she's like, mom, there's a man standing in the closet.
And it turned out the closet had one of those things where you like push up and get to the attic.
He had been living there for like a long, long time.
I'm not even going to say
what I want to say.
So I have a 1,600 square foot basement.
Okay, it's the same size as our house.
It's a ranch level
and then the basement's
the same exact size.
And there's like all kinds
of nooks and crannies
and there's like four different rooms
down there
and then there's a part
that's unfinished
and that's where I have
my podcast studio.
And there's several doors
that enter into there too.
And every night.
You check them?
Every night I go down there and I look through everything. You gotta check too and every night you check them every night i go down there i'll do it on the same way i look through everything the same way you gotta
check every nook and cranny every night you never know with my gun obviously every night see this is
why women should live with men yes there's a reason why a bear do that a bear would never do
that for you yeah there's a there was a there are a couple crazy stories i mean i highly recommend
this tv show,
but again, I can only watch like two episodes at a time.
It makes me like, you know,
I moved into a new apartment
and like every once in a while,
I'll hear something, I'll be like,
who lived here before me?
I'm already paranoid.
I don't need a TV show to make it worse.
I regret to inform women
that after two weeks of living with them,
the bear has returned to men,
in case you're wondering.
So I couldn't find,
I searched Give San to Go for leukemia, Kyle leukemia. I couldn't find, I searched GiveSendToGo for leukemia,
Kyle leukemia.
I couldn't find it.
It's not there.
I did give some other kid
who was four years old
and had leukemia a couple grand.
Oh, that's good.
Yeah, that was brutal.
And that was from a few months ago,
so their family's going to see it
and hopefully it'll help them out
because they said nuts,
the surgeries and everything.
But I think the guy who needs to fix his AC
is currently winning.
I'd like to help the guys living in his car, but he didn't give us a Venmo or anything
So the guy who's trying to work hard because he wants to get his workshop up and running seems to make this really cool, man
What did you start doing this to him?
Well, I just abruptly paid someone's rent on Monday and then people started asking more and more and so I just started paying
But then some people like Tim stop now everyone's just posting and begging and i'm like i mean people
are just doing it i never said i was gonna give him money but i guess you do and then people are
like if he is you know what i mean yeah no i get it things are really bad like i've traveled this
country so much and here we go uh fix your air conditioning guy here's 235 bucks sick damn nice
yeah i've been talking to like taxi drivers
and people in the hotels, teachers,
small business owners.
Yeah, everyone's crushed. I'm telling you right now, it's going to be worse than 2008.
It's coming. Bad crash.
Bad. The worst. It feels like something
is brewing. Really bad, yeah.
You take a look at the Fed's
losses, the
unrealized losses, their balance sheet.
It's just like
negative to insane. It's just like negative to insane.
It's nuts.
Yeah, House of Cards is an understatement.
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Josh, do you want to shout anything out?
Yeah, follow me on Twitter.
I'm at war with all the other blue checks there.
It's at Joshua at large.
And of course, go check out the campaign website at joshuasmith2024.com.
We got two weeks till the nomination.
Two weeks. And we set a goal to raise 10 grand.com. We've got two weeks until the nomination. Two weeks.
And we set a goal to raise $10,000.
So if you could throw a couple bucks, we'd appreciate it.
What's the YouTube channel for Sunday?
Tales from the Inverted World.
What time?
It will be at 6 o'clock Eastern Time.
And you will be there.
And we're going to have call-ins.
We have already a bunch of people lined up to tell us stories.
We'll go through some news items about some weird stuff that's going on in the world.
And it's going to be a lot of fun. can't wait subscribe everybody go to tales from the inverted
world on youtube subscribe now uh anything else you want to shout out i want to come on the show
yeah you should definitely come on the show everybody has been i've been asking to come on
yeah like who work here who works here because literally everybody yeah they're like this is
this is so much fun stuff to talk about aliens Aliens, ghosts, murder mysteries. Yeah, thank you to everyone who sent me messages.
I've had so much fun reading all these messages.
If you have one, hit me up at shanecashman at scanner.com,
S-C-N-R.com.
I'm taking submissions there, also on X, wherever.
I'm going through them all.
I'll hit you up.
I'll send you a link.
You can be a caller on the show.
We're still tweaking out.
Please have Aiden from the Lore Lodge on your show, too.
I was just thinking about those guys.
Yeah, the Lore Lodge is what's up.
So I got a lot of people lined up, and it's going to be a lot of fun.
I'm stoked.
I am philtremains on Twix.
I am philtremainsofficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
You can catch us this summer on the Destroy All Enemies Tour with Megadeth and Mudvayne,
starting August 2nd, going through September 28th or something like that.
The new single from All That Remains is out now.
It's called Divine.
It's available on Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, Deezer, Amazon Music, YouTube, you know, the internet.
Hannah Clare.
Real quick, I just want to stress, I think it's been up for about a week now.
Yeah, a week today.
You got like 600K on YouTube.
Yeah.
And anybody who follows their favorite bands, that's massive it's crazy it's amazing it's i'm it's super it's a super big deal i really really appreciate all the people that have
have spun it just because like we've been gone for six years we haven't put out new music because
we had a bunch of stuff so one of our guys passed away covid when another guy had a kid and and a
bunch of other business stuff so like the fact passed away, COVID, when another guy had a kid and a bunch of other
business stuff.
So like the fact that
so many people have been
spending our stuff
and showing so much support,
I really appreciate
the heck out of it.
Thank you so much.
It's been wonderful
and I can't wait to see
you guys on the road.
Hannah Clare.
I think it's going to be
a cool summer for you, Phil.
I'm excited for your tour.
It's been fun to be here
with everybody.
I'm Hannah Clare Brimla.
I'm a writer for SCNR.com.
That's Scanner News.
You can follow all of
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TimCastNews on Instagram and Twitter. If you want to follow me personally, I'm Hannah Claire Brimelow. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. That's Scanner News. You can follow all of Scanner's work at TimCastNews on Instagram and Twitter.
If you want to follow me personally,
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and I'm on Instagram at HannahClaire.B.
Bye, Serge.
Bye, guys.
Have a good weekend.
Cheers.
Thanks for hanging out.
We got clips throughout the weekend
and Sunday,
Tales from the Inverted World,
6 p.m. is going to be a hoot
and we'll see y'all there.