Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1026 Biden vs. Trump Debate IS ON, Biden DEMANDS PROTECTIONS From CNN w/Matt Walsh

Episode Date: May 16, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Mary, & Serge are joined by Matt Walsh to discuss Biden & Trump formally agreeing to a debate in June, RFK Jr backtracking after advocating for total unregulated abortion, Rolling Stone accusing Chiefs Kicker, Harrison Butker, of antisemitism during pro Jesus speech, and the tragic story of a 10 year old boy committing suicide after being physically abused by bullies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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but I have a bunch of caveats, no audience. We've got to cut your mic when your time is up. And we're not going to go at the we're only going to do two debates, not three. Trump is now saying he wants four debates plus a vice presidential debate. But man, could you imagine? I don't know. it doesn't even matter who trump picks anyone debating kamala harris is going to be like watching mike tyson box a toddler so that would be that would be quite entertaining we'll talk about that plus we got to talk about this uh the chief's kicker i believe it was a kicker right commencement speech he's being called anti-semitic because he was praising his wife and talking about the anti-Semitism bill they passed.

We'll talk about that. We've got a bunch of cultural things that I think are important we didn't get into. I'm sorry, Target, of course. This happened about five days ago, but they're canceling their Pride Month sales. I think that's a big victory. We'll talk about that. The FBI is warning that ISIS may target Pride events. So we'll get into all that, too.

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a while since, it's like a year and a half I think since the last time I was on the show. You made it. We're glad to have you. I think everybody knows who you are, but do you want to do a quick introduction anyway? Yeah, I'm Matt Walsh. I host a podcast over at The Daily Wire. You can go to my YouTube channel, The Daily Wire, and find that. Right on. That's the whole thing. You got a new show?

Yeah, I do have a new show called Judged, which is on The Daily Wire as well. And that is where I take on basically the pettier the case, the better. The basic idea is, well, there's two ideas behind it. One is that I'm always accused of being judgmental. And so we figured we might as well just embrace that and put that to good use. And also there are all kinds of cases that are not accepted in real courts of law that I think should be. And so we want to find those cases, those disputes that, you know, the courts aren't interested in and rule over those.

And in this, you're a judge in the show, but in the truest legal sense, you actually have legal authority as an arbiter. I do. Not nearly as much as I believe I deserve or would like, but I have an actual legal arbiter.

So there's very limited legal authority that these people, for whatever reason, they're actually bringing me their real disputes and signing saying that they will abide by my decisions. That sounds amazing. Right on. We'll talk a little bit more about the show, I suppose, later on, but we'll get through the news.

Mary's hanging out. Yeah. Hello, everyone. My name is Mary Morgan. I co-host Pop Culture Crisis here at TimCast. You can go find me there. Happy to be back. I'm Hannah Klobremel. I co-host Pop Culture Crisis here at TimCast. You can go find me there. Happy to be back. I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow. I'm back again. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. That's Scanner News. You can check out all of our work at TimCast News on Twitter. Hi, Serge.

Hello, Hannah Clare. Hey, guys. Let's get to it, Tim. Here's the big news. So we've got not only the debates are confirmed, there's so much nuance in this debate story. So Joe Biden comes out this morning saying, I'll debate you, Donald Trump. It was a 14 second long video had five jump cuts. The man could not express himself into like he could not just say two sentences without needing a ton of edits. It's kind of said, I have no idea how this man's going to debate.

But Trump, of course, truth out that he will be accepting. And then we heard that there are a whole bunch of caveats. First, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash will be the moderators to take place June 27th in Atlanta, Georgia. I imagine it'll be a lot of fun. But here's where it gets weird. Fox News has here all the restrictions Biden's team demanded in their Trump debate offer. President Biden's team does not want former President Trump to be able to interrupt the president.

All right. So no audience, no RFK Jr. or any other third party candidates. What is it? Limited news outlets. Wow, this is crazy. Candidate mics must mute after time expires. And I think that's it for the most part.

But no audience, that one's big. And I think the reason for that is kind of obvious. I think everyone would boo Biden. I mean, is that the issue? And most part. But no audience. That one's big. And I think the reason for that is kind of obvious. I think everyone would boo Biden. I mean, is that the issue? And Trump thrives off the audience. I mean, he's very performative. And so being able to read the room is when he's the best. Remember that town hall that he did?

And he just totally made a fool of the moderator, partially because he didn't talk to her. He talked to the audience. It's not something that Biden can really do. I think also having a lot of people that are distracting for Biden. He's very, you know, he's, he's a, he's an old, frail, feeble man. And so I think that the more, the more they can tone this down, the better. I actually think the, the cutting the mics after time expires is the bigger deal there. That's, that's absurd. It's already absurd in these debates that like to even call it a debate when they, when the moderator says, okay, uh, what's happening in the Middle East?

What's your take on that? One minute, go. You have 60 seconds to lay out your opinion on this. That's already ridiculous. But if they actually cut the mic at that point, you know, and both of these guys. And who's cutting it, right? Like, is it the moderator who hits the button or is it a sound guy in the back? And also, neither one of these guys are known for being succinct to begin with. So they're not gonna be able to give even one

thought out before they cut the mic. I mean, to be fair, Trump might get one thought out, but have 50 he wants to get in the 60 seconds. Biden will mutter gibberish and we won't know if their thoughts at all, but he'll say something. I had a professor when I went to SMU, his name's Ben Voth, and he did this study. He would time all of the presidential debates and his big takeaway was that Democratic candidates, they speak for longer, they're interrupted less often by the moderator.

They generally have the advantage, except Republicans speak more quickly. They say more words per minute. And I think this is interesting because one of the things that Trump basically could do when he was debating Hillary was like muscle his way through and be like, I'm just going to keep talking. Like it is very difficult for a moderator to keep in check. The only way you could really keep him from getting his side comments is you'd be in jail is by cutting his mic. Yeah. I mean, I would love a debate where the only thing the moderator does is just say, well, here's the topic.

Ready, set, go. Go. And just have them talk about it with each other like normal people. Well, the time limits on these debates used to be much longer, am I wrong? In decades past, people just had longer attention spans. And they would just go for like 10 minutes on one topic. And people would really pay attention and care. And this is just for the memes, at least for me.

And now it's like the soundbite generation and we're getting more and more into that. You have one minute and then once your minutes up, they cut your mic. I mean, I agree. That's that's ridiculous. Usually what you see is the time expires and you get a little bit of leeway to finish your thought before they before they say, OK, we're moving on. But they usually just say, OK, we're moving on. This is it's going to be boring. It's also fewer than years past. You know, typically there are three presidential debates and Biden only offered two. I mean, this is him hoping that Trump won't be able to make it. He's he is kind of admitting that he is too fatigued to get through the traditional three. I think Trump would have been like, okay, let's do three debates if you'd given him the option.

Yeah, I think the debate so clearly favors Trump that it shows you that the Biden team is desperate and they know they're in a lot of trouble and they need to pull something out of their hat. The interesting question is strategically for Trump, like there's two ways you could go about this. One is, okay, Trump, just go in there and be as normal as possible and and just just be normal and don't don't don't make don't make the debate about you at all because that was a mistake he made in 2020 but there's another another approach given the fact that biden is is half dead which is try to fluster him actually go after him hard and try to fluster him i think he trump tried that in 2020. It didn't really work. Maybe this time

around, I don't know, it might be more successful. Do you really think it was a mistake to make it about himself instead of the ideas? Because I think that is actually what got people to vote for him in 2016. Well, 2016 is one thing, but 2020, I think it's generally generally accepted. Generally accepted things

aren't always true, but in this case, I think it is true that the debates did not serve trump well in 2020 um because he just came off a little bit too it the story became oh look trump is being belligerent um but i think this was the strategy i think the strategy was like let's fluster this guy let's fluster biden i think he should i think uh the strategy for trump Trump will should be to say things about Biden. And this is probably typical debate strategy, but say things that are hyperbolic exaggerations of things that Biden did, forcing him to like like like target his dignity in a way that flusters him and makes him desperate to defend himself, which would then make Biden talk more about himself instead of plans for the future.

I think one of the things that Trump was dealing with in 2020, because I agree, Matt, is that he was like the way the media was going after him, the way he had been weighted down for, you know, his entire term with Russiagate, all of his attacks on his person, false accusations, media smears and lies. Instead of hearing about what his plans for the future were going to be, it was very personal. If Trump can direct that energy at Biden in the same way, then people are going to be like, this guy's got no plan. He's muttering gibberish. If Trump can get Joe Biden in a position where he needs time to explain himself, we will get a Trinidad and Shabbat of pressure out of him. And if Biden Trinidad and Shabbat of Pressure out of him. And if Biden true and honest Shabbat of Pressure is during the debate, he's done.

How did you, did you practice that? I tried. I'm impressed. It's true and honest Shabbat of Pressure. I listened to that thing probably a hundred times to try and translate it. Okay, now spell it. That's a merch idea. I tweeted it once, but there's no way I'm spelling true and honest Shabbat of Pressure.

Shabbat of Pressure, I have no idea. I think the interesting thing, because this is I don't think these debates are effective. I don't think people really learn anything during them other than just seeing the personalities clash. But it would be interesting for the soundbite generation to see how many times Biden can misquote his own records. Sometimes he can say, you know, Lincoln Riley instead of Lake and Riley. It's this sort of thesis dissertation on his four years in office. And he is not in a strong position verbally or mentally to be able to defend himself. So. Yeah. And right now, Biden only has two gears. And one of them is, of course. Right. Well, right. Mumbling incoherently is one gear. The only gear he has where he's sort of

on and he's making sense is what we saw in the State of the only gear he has where he's sort of on and he and he's making sense is what we saw in the uh state of the union which is when he's angry and he's shouting like he can still be angry and shouting and uh which will make the debate more interesting because obviously we don't want the they don't want the gear of him mumbling so they're gonna have to we need they're gonna tell him like we need the shouting angry biden because it's the only version of biden that makes a little bit of circus animal well it like an abide-act circus animal. It's very sad. The furl. It is.

I was mentioning this earlier on one of my morning segments. I just watched The Equalizer and The Equalizer 2. You guys ever see that movie? Denzel Washington. And he's like a retired agent, they call him. And he's basically just a badass who kills bad guys. But the way he acts in the film as a badass is stone faced, right?

Denzel Washington nails performance where he's just like, he talks like this and you know that he's going to win and defeat the bad guys. Joe button has this fake persona with a furrowed brow where he's trying to look like he's fired up, but he's really tired. And so it looks more like a confused old man. That's what evokes this pity in me. And I'm also disgusted at the same time. It's

confusing. I think him like belligerently yelling, though, Trump could handle that easily. Like an angry Biden, if Trump can keep his like, if Trump cannot engage in the fight, just be like, it's OK, Joe, just calm down. You did a bad job. Like, it would be hilarious to watch him handle it. Trump should demand a drug test, but only for uppers. He's like, I don't care if you're taking anything that chills you out, but no uppers. I think they should both just be zinned out of their minds. The one thing I do agree with, though, is no RFK. And I know it's going to piss off a lot of the RFK people. I personally would like to see a third party candidate, an independent,

the libertarian candidate. The thing about RFK specifically is that if you want to argue the polling threshold doesn't make sense because it creates a gate. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Someone without access to the public stage is not going to get the notoriety required for a poll. Fine. I understand maybe no polling requirement, maybe just be on the ballot for every state. RFK is not on the ballot in every state. And I think the issue is, I could be wrong. How many states is he on? I don't know, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't have enough to even win the presidency.

Like, so of the states that he's on. I think it's, I know he just got texted the other day. It's very few, isn't it? So if the argument is, look, RFK Jr., we get it. You're pulling at 10 percent in aggregate. But even if you win this debate, you are not even on the ballot in the majority of states. The likelihood of you winning is ridiculously low. He's on in four states, California, Utah, Michigan and Hawaii.

And then he has five other states where he has, or six other states where he's met the thresholds for signature, but we don't know for sure. Wow, that's newer than I thought. Right, yeah, seriously. I thought it was going to be like 10. Oh, and he's on in Texas too. This map is updated.

I thought it was going to be like 10. It's four? It's five with Texas. Oh, it's five. I would have been more upset about this several months ago, but I think recently RFK, he's not going to win, as you point out. And he's also presented. He's made it clear that he's not much of a of an alternative anyway.

He's kind of just Democrat lights. And some of the stuff he said recently about abortion, the gender stuff. It's like, you know, it's he's the he's basically just just Biden, you know, but he's actually able to speak. Matt, that is unfair. His stance on abortion is the most extreme stance I think we've seen from any candidate ever. That's true. Yeah. So I actually agree with you on the Biden thing.

He is basically a Democrat. But he that that video, my jaw hit the floor. I am not this staunch pro-life guy, but he said there should be zero regulation in any sense. And the interviewer asked him, you're saying keep the federal government out of it, leave it to the states. He goes, no, the states nor the federal government, no governments can be involved at all. It's like unrestrained, unfettered, unrestricted in every single capacity. That's the most extreme. But Tim, you have to trust women. That's crazy. He did backtrack on this.

Well, because he said full term. He said he was asked, OK, so abort babies full term. And he said, yes, full term. Yes. Did he backtrack on that? Yes. And he said, never mind, not full term. He actually.

Let me see if I can pull up his recent tweet on the issue. Let's do this. I had it pulled up the other day, but we never got into it. Actually, here we go. Four days ago. So here's the story. RFK Jr. reverses abortion stance again after confusion, contradictions emerge within campaign. Unsurprising. Independent presidential candidate RFK once again reversed his stance once again on limits for abortion access at a social media post Friday evening, prompted by criticism from

within his own campaign. During an interview with podcaster Sage Steele, Kennedy Wednesday said he opposed any government restrictions on abortion, even if it's full term. But after facing pressure from his campaign staff, Kennedy walked back his previous statement, taking to social media to write that abortion should be legal up to a certain number of weeks and restricted thereafter. The independent long shot said he now supports abortion up until the point of fetal viability and that he had changed his mind because he was willing to listen. I can respect to a certain degree the person who says, wow, I was really wrong about that.

I don't believe RFK right now, I was really wrong about that. I don't believe RFK right now really thinks he was wrong about it. I don't think a sane person holds the position that a woman should be able to have a full term abortion. Just trust her and let it happen. I'm like, even if we all agree the health of the mother in extreme circumstances, whatever those circumstances might may be, we expect there to be some kind of oversight for these processes. I don't agree with that, by the way. You don't think there should be any oversight for if there's going to be a medical emergency or something?

No, I'm saying I don't think there should be abortion at all legal under any circumstance. We'll clarify the definition of abortion. Then you mean like elective in the instance where a woman is assigned to terminate her pregnancy of will right right what i'm saying is supposed to rfk's position is effectively literally for any reason the woman decides we'll just trust her on it yeah my what i'm saying is even in the case where a woman is like aunt she's dying and they're like, ma'am, we have to terminate this pregnancy. I'm sorry, but the baby and you are both dying and we're going to try and intervene.

I believe like most pro-lifers wouldn't call that an abortion. That's medical intervention to save the life of the mother, which may result in the death of the baby. Right. Would you agree? Yeah, if it's a scenario where, let's say, she has cancer and they say, well, we could treat the cancer. It may result in, in the, in the pregnancy ending. Um, you know, that's kind of the principle of double effect and that wouldn't really be a direct abortion. Now, if they say, if they say, well, we're going to go in and terminate the pregnancy actively, then that's an abortion. So you just so let's say that there's a woman with a pregnancy. And I understand this is like, it's substantially more rare.

A woman is pregnant. And the doctor says, if this pregnancy continues, you will die. We can try to deliver the baby, but the baby may the pregnancy may have to be terminated. The baby might may die in that process. Would you disagree with that? I would absolutely disagree with killing the baby and then delivering the baby, and especially in the circumstances you're talking about, which are extremely rare. And a woman might be in a position where, look, this pregnancy needs to end, or you're going to die. Well, then, okay, you can end the pregnancy by delivering the child alive, and then do everything you can to save the child. You might not be able to, but do everything you can to save the child's life. The abortion is the extra step of we're

going to kill the baby first because you have to deliver the baby regardless. It's like, are you going to deliver a living baby or a dead baby? I completely agree. Right. So I guess my point was typically when it comes to the issue of abortion, people say for the life of the mother, that's the exception, right? And I think the clarification I'm trying to make is, because I've had this debate with Seamus, abortion typically refers to terminating a pregnancy in a way that ends the life of the baby. And the argument is, if you have to terminate a pregnancy, why not just try to save the baby? Well, I guess my point was RFK was saying, doesn't matter. Like a woman could literally be at nine months and be like, I want to just the

baby to dead. And then we'd say no oversight whatsoever. And I'm saying that, like, even in the case where Democrats argue there's a medical exemption for abortion that they would allow, there's still oversight for that. So RFK's position is the most was the most extreme. And I don't see that as a legitimate political position. I think he was just saying what he thought was the popular position. And now that he had popular position on the Democrats, I people in his own popular position though on the democrats i mean it is actually the mainstream democrat view joe biden would agree with with rfk's original position of abortion at any time for any reason no restrictions they avoid stating it that explicitly exactly yeah and i agree because we've had the progressives on the

show who have just been like doesn't matter if she wants to do it. Just just do it. Like literally while the baby started. No, you're fine. The partial birth abortion, you know, aborting the child while the child is being delivered. That is that is now a mainstream. It's in the mainstream of the Democrat Party to support even that. So he was he was he was within the mainstream.

I think RFK goes even farther, though, because, I mean, I could be wrong here, but when people were advocating for abortion to become legalized, one of the things they argued all the time was, well, we need it to be oversight because women could go to back alleys and coat hangers, and you heard all these horrible things. So he's saying, I don't want state government, I don't want federal government, I don't want anyone regulating this position at all, which theoretically goes against his

party's own claim of like, well, we need some kind of regulation. So it's safe. I don't think there should be abortions. But he is even extreme for his own party, saying that there's no regulation at all. I guess my view is just that he's saying what we know progressives are saying and Democrat politicians try to avoid saying because they know it's not popular to say terminate a baby at full term. And then he said full term as a politician. I'd respect it more if they did just say what they think, right?

Yeah. Or, you know, the Bill Maher position that he said a few weeks ago where he said, yeah, I think it's murder. And I think that sometimes we should, we have too many people on earth, so we should just kill babies. Which is insane. At least you're being honest. It's an appalling view, but it is actually the honest pro-abortion view. I can respect him being honest, so I know I can show that clip to people and be like, this is an insane position. I think RFK probably watched that clip and was like, this is what needs to be

said. His campaign then says, hey, actually, this doesn't poll well. And he went, OK, I'll take the traditional moderate position of safe, legal, rare then. I mean, there are pro-lifers in his campaign. No, no. They're saying you're not polling well among moderates. Like independent voters do not support full term abortion. That's insane. Right. Like I so so going back to what you were saying, Matt, about the idea of abortion. I had this debate with Seamus probably like two years ago, Seamus Coughlin. And I was incorrect. I said that abortion was just referring to terminating the pregnancy. Seamus corrected me and said, no, they're talking about ending the life of the baby.

And I was trying to convey that stillbirth and things like that were abortion. I was wrong. We pulled up the legal definition and it is terminating a pregnancy in a way that ends the life of the baby, not just terminating a pregnancy. If there's stillbirth, the baby's already dead and they terminate by removing the baby. That's not an abortion. That's removing a dead baby. Like the baby has died. I confronted pro-choice protesters once, and they were trying to tell me that Republicans are trying to ban women who have had miscarriages from having the fetus removed after a natural death. Right, which is not the case. Which is insane and not at all the case, but that's a mainstream talking point. I mean, I guess the question is, can any

politician actually honestly change their mind on an issue that they've come up publicly on during an election year? And I just don't think that this is an honest conversion, right? I think he means what he said in the first place, or at least he means it enough to think this was popular in my social circles and my donors cheered for me when I said this. I don't think that he can actually say, honestly, I have talked to people, I've consulted, and I've had an honest change of heart here. Yeah, and what could someone say to you in the span of a couple of days that convinces you that, oh, actually, killing full-term babies is wrong?

I mean, I hope someone did. I hope someone did say something. I just don't think they did to this guy. But what facts did they need to introduce to you that you didn't already have before? Like, what confusion? Am I wrong that men just don't, men are not opinionated about abortion either way?

I feel like it's mostly women in the pro-life movement. It's mostly women in the pro-choice movement. Men don't really think about it all that much. I think there are a lot of men who feel really, really strongly about it. Yeah, and I'd say it's kind of like a, kind of like a quadrant where three are full and one's empty. That is, liberal guys don't really care. Yeah.

But conservative guys do, conservative women do, and liberal women do. And liberal guys are kind of like, whatever gets me laid. Right, exactly. I think there are a lot of men who maybe bought into the propaganda that they shouldn't have a view on it. Right. Or that it's none of their business. But I think that any, just any,

any person, if they think about this issue, you know, can, can clearly see that killing babies is wrong. I, I have a friend, I've told the story, I'll keep it short,

liberal, normie comedian guy who doesn't pay attention to politics. And when he was asking me about like, oh, so you're doing the show, like you're conservative now, like what's going on? And I was like,

no, I'm definitely not conservative. But I was like, look, man, when you look at what's going on, give you example, the Democrats trying to pass this this bill that would allow full term abortion at the federal level. He was like, no, that's not true. And then I'm like, dude, don't even take my word for it. I pulled up the bill and I showed him I should just read it. And I was like, section 13 specifically, and he reads it. And he's like, what is this? Where'd you get this? And I'm like, bro, it's congress.gov. And he's like, this is wrong.

This can't be right. And I'm like, my dude, I am not conservative. I'm just reading the news. If you disagree with this, then you need to speak up against the Democrats because it's how far they've gone. And he was like, I got to look into this. This doesn't seem right. Something's missing here.

And I'm like, no, you're just not watching the news, bro. This is where they are at. They're living 15 years ago yeah and this is why uh colin wright elon musk colin wright made that meme of the guy in in the slightly left position now he's on the right because the left has gone far left and that's where many people are and that's why that's why trump won and that's probably why he's going to win again and that's that's exactly why rfk is backtracking. But I'll also point out, like, RFK Jr. is kind of backtracking on a lot of things.

I don't even know what his positions are. I'm not trying to be a dick, okay? I respect the independent run. But what are his campaign positions? We now know that he's changed from full-term abortion to limited abortion.

I don't know what else he's up to. I know the medical freedom is a big deal. I can respect that. You know, no force to be able to get medicated. That's the only issue where he seems to have drawn a clear line of colludiation between him and the Democrats. But, and I'm no RFK Jr. expert, but from my vantage point,

it seems like on most other issues, he's basically in the Democrat realm. He's in, he's in that, their vicinity anyway. Let me pull up this. This is polling from civics. I think this is big. The reason why Joe Biden is likely, has likely now announced, there's two reasons why he's announced he will do the debate. One of the, one of the most interesting ones I've heard is that he is concerned his team, his campaign, that the Democrats will try to force him out and bring in a new candidate, someone who can probably win. And the reason why they're saying they want to do a debate early, earlier than normal, they're claiming, oh, it's because people

need to hear the debate before early voting begins. Others say it's to force the position so they can't change and they have to have Biden. But I think it's this. This is civics favorable or unfavorable opinion of Joe Biden. Of course, Democrat doesn't matter. You click Democrat 79% favorable. I mean, that's kind of bad for the Democratic incumbent. Republicans, of course, unfavorable among independent voters. Right now, the latest polling from civics, 27% favorability among independent voters. We pop over to Donald Trump. Of course, Democrats don't like Donald Trump. Of course, Republicans do like Donald Trump. They like him a little bit more than Democrats like Biden among independent

voters. Donald Trump has a 38 percent favorability. He's up 11 points, despite the fact that independents overwhelmingly don't like either of them, Trump is still up by 11 points among independents. In various ways, I plugged that data into chat GPT asking it. I asked GPT to analyze the 2020 voter data and then looking at how independent voters voted, take the favorability as of today and apply that to independent votes. And what would the turnout be? I got varying answers. They were all in favor. They were all Trump wins. It was like one projected a Trump landslide due to this massive, this is a huge shift in independent voters. I don't believe

that's accurate. Chet GPT is probably wrong. One of them said Trump gets a narrow victory because independents have flipped. That one seems to make the most sense. The weirdest one was without this data. I asked Chet GPT just like to take a at the truck. I said, look at 2020, 2020 data, look at the current polls. What will the result be? Is that a tie? 269 to 269. To be fair, some pollsters have projected that is a possibility, which would be wild because the house would then as Republicans, they'd pick Trump and the Senate as Democrats would pick Harris and you'd get a Trump Harris administration, which I don't think was really going to happen. But back to the main point, the reason why Joe Biden is agreeing to debate is because

he's hurting where it really matters. He's losing young voters and he's losing independent voters. He has no choice but to force to go on the stage. He has no moves left. Why is he losing young voters? The Palestine issue. Is it that? Well, I don't think so.

Palestine actually registers relatively low on voters. I think it's Palestine. I think it's college debt. I mean, there's data out right now that college interest rates are about to hit a decade high. I mean, he's a guy who continuously promised to give them this future that is not there. He's sending them into conflict internationally. He's charging them like crazy for college. He's not ending federally backed student loans. He keeps forgiving more and more student debt illegally. But they always get tied up in court. Like it's not something that he's done enough on. What do you mean? It's done. People are posting there like my debt's gone. There are

several millions of dollars tied up in court in this year. He did not come through in the way that he told them they would. Sure. But when you look at what voters are concerned about, economic issues are the top. When you break down the different economic issues, I don't think it's fair to lump them all together necessarily because they put like homelessness as a separate, like hunger, homelessness and poverty is a different issue from the economy. And I'm like, if you're poor, is that not an economic issue? Immigration as a single issue is charting the highest, according to Gallup. And we pulled this up from Nate Silver. Among 18 and 29-year-old voters, like Palestine, Israel was number like 15 out of 16.

And number one was economy. Number two was like, I think it was immigration. And I'm like, across all demographics, immigration. I think it's really simple. You're a Gen Z-er and you're wondering why you can't afford to buy a house, why you're living in a shoebox in New York City, why there are no jobs, and then why on the news you're watching them send $100 billion to Ukraine. They're sending, they brought in 5.1 million people in the past two years, according to Centers for Immigration Studies. And you're watching them get tax benefits, welfare benefits, luxury hotels. Meanwhile, you're hungry.

You can't get insurance. You can't buy a car. You can't buy a house. So I, you know, don't know for sure, but I think economy immigration is a huge issue for Gen Z. There's this viral video from this dude. I think his name is, what was his name? Nicholas Sumners was the viral video.

It's like 11 million hits on TikTok. And he's screaming about why he makes three times the federal minimum wage, but he can't afford to get a house. He can't afford to live. He's working 40 hours a week. He can't afford to live. He's working 40 hours a week. He does not want to work 90 hours a week. Meanwhile, this country is sending hundreds of billions. He's like, I turn the news, 60 billion more of our dollars, taxpayers being sent to a country no one can point to on a map. I'm like, yo, Gen Z is pissed about the foreign

policy spending. Yeah, I think, I think, yeah, it's, it's too big. It's what you're talking about. The people's law, it's, it's really just, it's a visceral thing. Your life, you look at your life and you're not in a better spot today, uh, with Joe Biden in office. Now, not that, not that the president single-handedly determines the quality of your life, but, uh, I think it's just people are looking at Biden. Like what has he done? What, what policies has he put in place to make my life better, to make it better for my family? And you're coming up empty. There's nothing there. I also think that his, I think age, his age is a, is a major, major factor here. To me, I don't know if the polls bear this out, but my, my feeling of it is that that might be the number one thing, because the fact is the guy is senile, like he's an actual senile president.

And I don't know how it's hard to get past that. I don't think he's inspirational to the youth. Right. I mean, for anyone, it's just are we going to vote again for for a senile president? And then a third factor, too, is that they have not figured out a good line of attack for trump somehow after all these years and so their their attacks on trump are are failing and that's part of the problem they're not able to mobilize voters against trump because their their narrative about trump even now is that he's a he's a dictator he's in league with putin you know he's going to bring in handmaid's tale uh dystopia and all this kind of stuff but we all we all live through the trump

years for four years and we know that like if anything trump's greatest flaw was the exact opposite of that is that he didn't wield his power enough uh he was very shy actually about wielding his power he's the opposite of a dictator, but that still is their narrative about him. They haven't updated it. And so they've got the senile guy overseeing a collapsing economy and they're running against this other guy and they can't figure out what their narrative is against him. And that's sort of the situation. I think that's especially true for voters who were below 18 when Trump was in office. Like if you were 14 when Trump took office, you graduated high school right when Biden took over. If you maybe went to college, if you've been working for a couple of years, now you're inheriting this economy and this culture that is extremely

negative and sort of in disarray. It makes you want a change. And if you were looking back, thinking, oh, my parents had more money under Trump and they weren't complaining about inflation as much, like whether or not the president is the one who fixed it, you're going to look back at that time much more nostalgically and you're going to want it. And it was something that you didn't vote to office, but now you might choose to. And the fact is the Trump years were good until 2020. And, you know, I'm as critical as anyone about Trump's handling of COVID. But the problem is that we all know that if a Democrat was in office, it would have all the mistakes that Trump made, the Democrat would have made, but worse.

And we saw that once Biden went in. So that's sort of a wash. It's a non-factor. And so you look at the first three years and you say, well, the country's in a pretty good place. Were you for Trump during the primary when we had multiple candidates or were you like DeSantis or somebody?

During this primary? I mean, I would have liked to see Ron DeSantis. I think Ron DeSantis would be a great president. I think he'd wipe the floor with Biden in a debate or in any other way. But he didn't win, so Trump's the guy. Would you want to see him in Trump's cabinet or in his office at all? No, I wouldn't want to see that. Number one, I just think it's a waste.

We need him in Florida. He's much more effective being the governor of Florida. I think putting him in a VP or putting him in the cabinet, I think, is a waste. Who do you want for VP? There's a couple different ways of looking at it. I think someone like Vivek would be really interesting. I think the VP doesn't matter that much at the end of the day. Second First Lady. Right, exactly. It doesn't make much of a difference.

I think that Trump doesn't want someone who he thinks might get more publicity than he does. He might feel overshadowed by, so it probably won't be someone like Vivek. I've heard Doug Burgum being floated around. There's no reason why it'd be Doug Burgum, except that he's just sort of a non-entity and he's not going to overshadow Trump. He's a billionaire, right? So Trump might find him relatable. That's true. The other thing, too, is that the reality is that many of the people that work for Trump are in his orbit. The relationships often don't end terribly well.

And so that's one of the reasons why I wouldn't want DeSantis in that circle because you end up sullying what could be a powerful person in the movement going forward. It's interesting. I think that is one of the interesting things to come out of this election. It's not necessarily Trump winning if he does, it's what happens to the momentum that has built around this idea of MAGA and this sort of American first movement, because it's not clear who would be the next leader. I mean, I do think Ron DeSantis has an interesting career ahead of him. I think there are a lot of really promising people, but it's not like there is a carbon copy, maybe nor should there be of exactly Donald Trump. Yeah, we don't and we don't. That was one of DeSantis' mistake and the mistakes in the primaries that he sort of positioned himself as Trump without the baggage. Right. And but the

problem is that there's only one Trump and there's only going to ever be one. And that's OK. You know, you know, Ron DeSantis doesn't need to be Trump. He needs to be Ron DeSantis. And so if that is the question of the MAGA movement, does it live beyond Trump? And I think it doesn't if it if if the insistence is that we need another Trump to take the reins. Right. Let's jump to the story from Rolling Stone. Oh, we chose one of the most vile ways to interpret the news. Chiefs kicker spreads anti-Semitic lies in Benedictine college graduation speech.

Harrison Butker claimed Congress passed a bill where stating something as basic as the biblical teaching of who killed Jesus could land you in jail. So the actual story is Chiefs kicker Bucker congratulates women graduates and says most are more excited about motherhood. Look at the distinction between this and this is AP. That's that was his speech. That without that. Sorry. He says, quote. Well, let me let me read a bit before because they get some context. He says, Butker, who's made his conservative Catholic beliefs well known, also assailed Pride Month and a particularly important time for LGBTQ rights. And President Joe Biden stands in abortion, saying, I think it is you, the women who've had the most diabolical lies told to you.

Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world. I can tell you that my beautiful wife, Isabel, would be the first to say that her life truly started when she started living her vocation as a wife and as a mother. The way Rolling Stone put it is that he was spreading anti-Semitic lies. And we saw this story and Matt was like like what's what's anti-semitic about it i guess and i suppose this is the rolling stone did the meme the the anti-semitism bill gets passed in the house they say that the ihra definition of anti-semitism is well how they will determine whether someone's being anti-semitic one of the examples they gave was it said, i.e., it's a parentheses, i.e.,

claiming Jews killed Jesus. Then you had many people arguing that you would be accused of anti-Semitism for saying such. Now Rolling Stone is claiming that he's spreading an anti-Semitic lie for saying what the bill and the website actually said. Now, to be fair, I don't think there's jail time for that bill. I think it's a civil violation, meaning that if they can interpret your actions in expressing biblical teachings, where in the Bible it literally does say Jews killed Jesus, and that is the underpinning for some kind of discriminatory action, then you are civilly responsible, liable, and could be sued or something. So I don't think going to jail is correct. I mean, I think the real story is his message to the young women, right? Because Benedictine is a Catholic college. Having gone to a Catholic college for the short time I was there, I know that what he

was saying is true. And I know that it resonated with those young women. And they were clapping for his speech. He got a standing ovation. They loved it. And it's true. I interacted with these women. And for context, I was at Christendom College. And, you know, when I was in conversation with these other female students, a lot of them said they don't really know what their career ambitions are. A lot of were hoping to you know get their MRS degree uh unabashedly so and they hosted workshops for these girls where where stay-at-home moms would talk about their lifestyles and um you know that is a profession although people don't word it that way being a homemaker is a profession in and of itself that you don't need a degree for.

So I think that his speech was really sweet. Um, you know, aside from anything else, that's the only part of it that I saw. Yeah. I would say being, not to play semantics, but I think being a homemaker is a, it's work, but it's not a job. Sure. But I would say not a job. It's a profession. Right. It's a vocation. It's a vocation, right? It's a vocation and it's work. And it doesn't need to be. It's like there are honorable, noble things to do that aren't jobs.

And the interesting thing about this is that, of course, if he had – there's controversy because he said this to women. If he had said something similar to men, which maybe he even did in the speech. I haven't heard the whole speech. He did tell men that they should embrace masculinity. Okay, right. which maybe he even did in the speech. I haven't heard the whole speech. He did tell men that they should embrace masculinity. Okay, right. And if he said that, or if he said to men, you know, look, you might go out and get a successful career.

I hope you do. But when you get married and have kids, you're going to look back on that as the most important thing you ever did. Like any married man would say that about himself and it's not a controversy. So, but to say it to women somehow is, it doesn't make sense to me.

There was a Ronald Reagan letter. I think he was writing to his son and one of the lines he's giving him some advice the son had been like professional career whatever and that ronald reagan had been uh he had said you know the most important thing i'm gonna botch this quote was uh coming home at the end of the day and hearing the footsteps of your children running to the door to greet you like yes the things that you may do as a man are important in your professional career is valuable on the other hand you have to lose sight of that no one should lose sight of the things that you may do as a man are important in your professional career is valuable. On the other hand, you have to lose sight of that. No one should lose sight of the fact that the family is actually the most important unit in your life.

And you have to be intentional about building that. And that's also what that's one of the things that makes the career important is that you're doing it in service to your family to provide for them. But I think that for whatever reason, that kind of message for a man is not, for the most part, viewed as controversial. But to say that to women somehow is, I suppose. There was that story that went viral of Chelsea Handler, I think, where she's like, I don't have kids. So I wake up, do drugs, masturbate, and then go back to sleep. And it's just like, you know, she got roasted pretty heavily. And it was the weirdest thing because I know Ben was critical of her saying she's miserable. She's absolutely miserable. You can tell. And then I made a video. It's a pretty good impression. Oh, thank you. But I made a video where I was like, hey, I don't care. More power to her. I hope she's happy.

However, I would be willing to bet that on her deathbed, she's going to be in a sterile hospital room. The doctor is going to walk in and say, Ms. Handler, I'm sorry. It's terminal. And I think you may only have a few days. Is there someone we should call? And she's going to say no. And he's going to say, well, press the button if you need us. And then I'm just imagining this dark room where she's sitting there terrified at the end of her life. They got really mad that we were criticizing her for having said it. Me, I take the more libertarian approach, like, hey, more power to you, lady, I guess. But I think the message that you get with the likes of Rolling Stone and these

liberals is I don't think they're thinking for their futures. And on top of the message that one day these people will be either at home, I'll just put it this way. I can be more brutal than being in a hospital room and a doctor says, I'm sorry, it's over and you have no one. How about you're in your house and you feel a sharp pain in the side of your chest and you fall down and you're dizzy and you can't get up and you're groaning and begging for help and there's no one there to help you. It can be much more brutal than that. That's the world that they resign themselves to in much greater numbers because they reject family and family supports each other. But if we want to get into the macro things, the bigger picture, Social Security is expected to start breaking down in 2033. And many of these people like Chelsea Handler are going to

vote in systems that expect the younger generation, the children of responsible families to pay the bills of the likes of Chelsea Handler and Bill Maher. Well, to be fair, they're both rich, so they'll have they'll have servants or whatever. But the average person who believes in that world and decides to live that way, they're going to be voting in laws that extract from the younger generation of responsible parents who had families. Yeah. And they already are. That's already happening. I think that pointing out that, and I've said it many times, that people like Chelsea Handler are going to die alone, as you've said, and not just die alone, but then leave behind no legacy,

no lasting impact on the world. And that's important to point out, but it's also like while you're living, it's just not true. When Chelsea Handler, I'm a little bit less generous than you, because when Chelsea Handler says, I'm very happy living this way, no, you're not. You're not actually happy living this way. I know that you're not happy. You know, you're not happy. There's a reason why you're making a video saying, Hey guys, I'm happy. Like generally when you make a video and the whole purpose is, Oh, look everyone, I'm happy. It means that you're not because happy people don't feel

the need to go around trying to convince the world that they are. But also that's just not how human happiness works. Humans cannot be happy that way. We find happiness in relationships and sacrificial loving relationships. You cannot find true happiness on your own living a life of just kind of aimless, you know, self-centered recreation. It's like that the movie Into the Wild about the Christopher McCandless. Christopherccandless goes out on his own into the alaskan wilderness and uh and then he ends up dying you know in in the woods and his parents had no idea what happened to him for a long time because he just like burned his money and left his car in a ditch right and i don't know if this is in the real story if this happened or not but in the movie he writes something he writes a message in his book saying something like happiness isn't

real unless it's shared or something like that. That's his last thought that he has before he dies alone. And there's a lot of, there's a lot of truth to that. And so you just can't, it's, it's, it's just not on offer in life to, to be happy on your own smoking weed, waking up late. You're correct. I actually completely agree. Um, I think it was, uh, Jeremy Boring said this on the show last time he was here. We were talking about climate change and they're talking about how we want less people. And he made the point that we only do things for people. We don't live our lives and follow our dreams and build monuments for trees. We do it for humans, for the human experience in which we are a part of. Without humans, there is no human experience.

And it's completely true. And that's the bigger picture of, yeah, happiness doesn't exist unless it's shared. And that's why people love to tell stories. That's why people want to sit down with their friends and joke with each other. I suppose my view is more, if I get nerdy about it, I view you, Matt, as for all the D&D fans out there, more like a paladin, right? You're a righteous warrior, a knight of divine justice. And I'm more of a rogue who's just sitting back and watching people like her self-destruct saying, fine, whatever. A paladin? Yeah. Yeah. So I take that as a compliment, I think. I don't know what that is. Well, so it's like a holy knight. It's like a warrior who brings about

divine retribution and justice and lives very, very honorably. And the rogues are more just like, I'm going to do my thing and go about my business. And that's kind of how I view it. If Chelsea Handler wants to self-destruct, whatever. Yeah. I'm not, I'm certainly, I will not claim that I'm laying awake at night worrying about her happiness and lack thereof. One of the things I'll say about this is that when these people brag about being childless and they talk about all the things that make being childless so great, most of it's empty and superficial. But the other thing is that all of the things that make that life fun are available to me. I mean, I have six kids and I can do all that stuff if I wanted to. I don't want to smoke weed and all that, but I could if I wanted to.

I could do all that. I can go on vacation. I can do all that kind of stuff. It might take more effort, but I can do it. But when you have a family, there are actual, there are avenues of happiness. There's like a type of happiness that is simply not available to you unless you have a family yourself. And some of that is, the Ronald Reagan thing, coming home after a long day at work and your little four-year-old daughter runs up to you. It's like, that's a kind of happiness that's just not, Chelsea Handler can't experience it. It's not available to her. And the closest she can ever get is seeing

how many people liked her video saying, I'm happy, right? Like those are the relationships she's chasing. And I think that's such misplaced energy. She is trying to say, I want you guys to validate the way I'm feeling. And she is not able to sustain a healthy relationship with anyone close to her because she needs it to be like, look, I am setting the terms of everything. I mean, I think that's the biggest when to go back to the NFL kicker, you know, one of the things he referenced with that was his wife saying, you know, I think she would tell you that this was the best decision. She feels fulfilled by it. And I think that that alludes to the sacrifice that people have to make. Like in life, you have to

make choices. You may not get to do everything you want all the time. Perhaps you cannot smoke weed because you have to go to your kids' soccer games. But the thing that you're giving up for is worth it. The things that you are getting from it are valuable to you and are ultimately part of how they will shape the rest of your life. I think that there is the culture that Chelsea Handler is living in is much more about momentary, instantaneous pleasure as opposed to the the joys of things that come from sacrifice and hard work. Look, let's imagine Chelsea Handler at a very young age learned that after suffering some kind of ailment, she would be unable to have kids.

And this is actually just her coping with trauma. How would you feel if there was something like that going on? Well, I'd say you're coping with it the wrong way. I mean, look, there are people that can't have kids or that want to and just it doesn't happen. You know, that happens. But I do think that every person is called. I think every human being has a maternal or paternal calling. So every man is called to be a father and every woman is called to be a mother. Usually that will take the form, the biological sense where you actually have kids.

And then sometimes it will take the form of adoption. But then there are other forms even beyond that where it might not be either of those. And maybe you go into the religious life. Maybe you get into, you know, you become a missionary. But the point is that a life of a kind of maternal or paternal service is what everyone is called to in some form. And I think if you just reject that outright

and say, I don't want any part of that or anything that looks like it, you're living not only a sort of pointless and pathetic life, but also one that's like deeply sad, I think. The scariest thing is if you do not have kids, it will be the first time since the dawn of humanity that your line did not reproduce. So the weight of every single one of your ancestors is upon you to continue your family. I just think of all the relatives who, like, nursed their kids through, like, smallpox or yellow fever and, like, helped raise them and sacrifice for them. We talked about this the other night.

Like, parents who were like, I came from nothing, but I'm going to work hard to give you more. And then at the end of your line is this person who's like, but I like to have my house decorated in a certain way. And I like having two incomes and nothing to do on the weekends. We're dinks. So I guess this is better. The sinister alternative that they're promoting right now is chosen family, like the Friends cast where you make a bunch of friends

and someone like Chelsea Handler has like gay best friends and they go out and post it to social media. But those people aren't, they don't have any loyalty to you i think so that's that's why you talked about her deathbed right like who who of her chosen family is going to be there for her at her lowest when she is then reduced to the state of a child again when she's elderly and who of those people if they decide even before she dies if they decide that like they find her kind of annoying and she has all these flaws and everything,

which we know she has quite a few of them, how many of them are going to stay devoted to her even then? Because the thing is, in most friendships, it is like you're devoted to each other to a certain extent, but it's because we kind of like being around each other. There's nothing, most of the time, there's nothing that quite transcends that. Now, when you're family, you have blood that transcends that so that even if you're annoyed with each other sometimes, you still have that familial

devotion. Well, I gave you the horrible scenario for her on her deathbed where the doctor says, press the button. There's the inverse. You're on your deathbed surrounded by your grandchildren, your children. They're holding your hands, crying, saying you were the best dad, you were the best mom. You did everything for us and we'll always care about you, we'll always believe in you and your story will live on. We're going to name our great grandkid after you. Things like that. And you are in a room, warm,

surrounded by love with a smile on your face. The beautiful thing about family though is that even if you weren't the best grandmother, you weren't the best mom, whatever you were, they'll say it anyway. They will be loyal to you anyway. They will be there for you anyway, because there's room for vulnerability, right? Sometimes family falls apart, but for the most part, you have the highest percentage odds of having people be there for you and say the nicest thing, the loving

things to you, even if they don't really mean it, because they still do care about you, even if they're annoyed by the little things. Well, because what's scary to me more than the deathbed scenario, like if you're, what's her name? Wendy Williams. She's like in a conservatorship right now because she's getting dementia. Like if Chelsea Handler starts to lose control of her mind, her faculties, whatever else, like who is going to be the person who steps up to care for her?

Right? Like that is when you really need someone. You. And not Chelsea Handler. chelsea handler no you have no choice the state will come and take your money the state will maybe but like who is going to be there when you are like meeting a routine who is literally going to be in your home with you because it's like i guess her state could hire her a nurse but like you don't know what that there are lots of great like in-home carers but like it's to me the craziest thing that happens

is like at the end of your life you need more support and if you haven't poured into your family like if she couldn't have kids you know hopefully she's a fantastic aunt hopefully she's you know at every single volleyball game for her nieces and nephews because ultimately at the end of your life you need your community and that tends to be your family and if you isolate your family if you don't create your own family who is there when you need them i I really do fear for what happens when the millennial and younger generation who are single with no kids and lots of cats are elderly and in need of help and support and they have no families. What what happens? We're seeing more cases of elder abuse. It's even now it's

going to be brutal because the Social security, 940 bucks a month or something, 2033, it starts becoming insolvent and breaking down with low fertility and a smaller amount of young people relative to old people. You don't just have a shortfall in cash. You have a shortfall in the actual labor to produce the services and resources for the elderly who need it. So you can print all the money in the world you want, tax everybody. You could tax 100% for all the young people, give it to the older people, and they're going to be like, there's still not enough production to support these old single millennial lefties and woke people who didn't have families.

What does that future look like? I am terrified of what that future is going to be because it goes it goes one of two extreme directions. One is which they vote in mass to subjugate the younger generations to an extreme degree, drafting younger generations towards civic duty for a certain amount of years to produce the resources required for the older people who didn't have families, whether you want to or not. Or the other side of things, the much more terrifying, a bunch of old people wandering the streets or just dying because there's no support system and no one's willing to pay their bills or do the work for them. And I think there's actually a third scenario, which maybe could fit into one or two,

which is what we're already seeing in Canada, which is we start to see old age treated as a disease. And there's a cure for that disease, which is e we're already seeing in Canada, which is we start to see old age treated as a disease, and there's a cure for that disease, which is euthanasia. And so we're going to see the expansion of the kind of euthanasia program. And at a certain age, we're going to look at you, society's going to look at you and say, well, you don't do anything anymore. You're no use to us. And so why don't you just get going?

And that's, like I said, they're already doing that. Logan's wrong. Wasn't that a cultural tradition in japan i could be totally wrong here but there was one country was like the older people just are supposed to like sacrifice himself walk into the woods and like be like i can't be a burden on society i don't know what country this is i can't remember but so i don't think that's japan but but japan is actually no japan it does sound like japan but japan's better about it so for instance, Fukushima, the nuclear reactors go up, radiation spilling out everywhere. The old people lined up to volunteer to go into the reactor to try and clean it up and shut it down, saying we have lived good lives and now we will make the sacrifice for the

children. And I'm like, wow, that's kind of the opposite of what we got with Congress. Older people who are like, let's extract as much as we can. This is my seat and you can never take it away from me. They're having their own issues keeping up the birth rate in Japan. No, exactly. And in China as well. Do you think we'll see the birth rate turn around in the next five years?

Five years, no. What do you think? This is a generational problem. It took us generations to get here. So, I mean, there's no sign of it turning around. I think that we, you know, we're far off from the point of experiencing actual population decline. And I say, so people that are stupid, of course, will look at it and say, well, every time Elon talks about the depopulation agenda, which I'm glad he talks about it, in his comments,

you always see a bunch of people say, what are you talking about? The population's growing by every day. But the point is that we're below replacement level in a lot of these societies. And so the population increase is slowing down. Eventually, you get to the point where it actually does start decreasing. When that happens, now you're in a catastrophic, cataclysmic situation. I don't, I'm not sure what could, we need a lot more people need to have six kids like me. But how do you get people to have six kids?

There could be a pendulum swing, right? Because I was just thinking about this today. It used to be seen as a status symbol. It maybe still is to not have a lot of kids. And poor people would generally have more kids because the more kids you have, the more people you have to contribute to the household, which used to be the economic center. Like home and work used to be one and the same. And then the pendulum swing is going to happen where it's going to be seen as a status symbol to have three plus kids and get above replacement rate

because it's seen now as a luxury to be able to do that, especially as it's seen as a luxury to be able to have a single income household. Same way. I hope that's, well, as long as it's a status symbol to have a lot of kids with one set of parents. Not like the NFL route. Well, I mean, Elon is, you know know he's paying lip service to the whole population replacement thing but he has factually

discarded a lot of his children via the process of ivf and he doesn't really understand the sanctity of human life yeah and that's uh and that's that's a tough one to get people to understand like first you gotta get the pro-life argument down. And then- It's like, let's get to the hard part. Right. It shouldn't really be hard because- I know, yeah.

And as you understand, it's like either human life is sacred or it isn't. Either it has meaning or it doesn't. But in terms of, look, I know a lot of families that have a lot of kids. And I grew up in a family we there was also six kids and some parents of a lot of kids feel certain like embarrassment not that they have a lot of kids but when they go out in public people tend to stare and they make comments they make comments i don't i don't i i don't feel that way i feel proud of comments like that or your wife feel proud. Have you gotten comments like that? Or your wife? Yeah, we get comments. She probably gets more than I do.

But usually it's pretty innocuous. Somebody just points out that, oh, I got a lot of kids there. It's like, thanks. I hadn't noticed. Thanks for telling me. I had a family friend that had a lot of kids. And it happened once. They were like, oh, a lot of kids here.

And she went, I know. Isn't it great? And I was like, that was the best response. Some people say, well, you know how that happens, right? You know, as if we didn't know. But I don't feel that. I feel proud of having a lot of kids. And so if we got to a point where that's how the culture was sort of wired, I think that

would help with this problem. But it's, like I said, a generational problem. I feel like you have to make it fun to be a family again. Like everyone should have a baby shower. Everyone should be like, wow, it's great that you're having children. Like stop treating it like it's the end of your life. That and also society

needs to be much more welcoming of families. This is a constant, you know, source of argument and debates that come up on Twitter all the time where you've got another person on TikTok like saying, if you have a kid, stop going to grocery stores with your bratty kid or whatever.

Stop bringing them into restaurants. Well, it's like... Or even just like necessary things like the airplanes, public transport. Kids have a right to exist in society and families have a right to exist. And not only have a right to exist, but it's a good thing we should want.

You should be happy when you go to the grocery store and you see families with kids. That's a wonderful thing. The real issue is people aren't disciplining their kids as much as they used to. And I think that's what people are, you know, reacting to. But they're reacting the wrong way. Yeah.

You know, but I understand why people then, parents aren't disciplining their kids. They take it out. They think it's a kid problem. My view is, you know, we invite people to come and skate the park or film. I always tell, bring your family. It's like we're exercising. It's a sunny Saturday morning. You want to come and skate the park or film. I always tell bring your family. It's like we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're exercising. It's a sunny Saturday morning. You want to come bring the, bring the wife, bring the kids. We'll order food. We'll hang out, make it a family thing. I tell people who work, work here at this company. If you,

if you want, bring your kids, your kids can watch you work when they're able to watch you work. I think it is one of the biggest problems we problems that we face in this country is that we've separated parents from their children institutionally, socially. Kids go off to the institutionalized learning facility. Dad goes to work. Mom goes to work. And then everyone's just they're broken up. I think kids need to see what their parents are doing as often as they can. Parents need to spend time with their kids. There's this story. You know what? Let's jump to the story, man. This is a brutal story. It's it's it's it's heartbreaking daily mail boy 10 kills himself after suffering horrific bullying that saw his classmates mock his glasses and his teeth

so uh this this poor kid man 10 years old getting mercilessly bullied. And, you know, a part of me feels feels bad at saying this, but I was reading a breakdown of the story and the kid had been bullied so mercilessly, physical abuse, the emotional stuff I get. That's tough. But physical abuse like that's that's you got to stop that. That's that's wrong. The dad said to the school, what are you doing about it? And, you know, I feel bad saying this because I mean, this dude lost his kid and that's, that's, that's horrifying there. I I've, I've, I've seen them seen many things in my day. I watched a video where a father was holding his dying son and it is a sound that, that is haunting. It's, it's a horrible thing, but I just think,

let this be a moment for people to realize you can't just say to a school, what are you doing about it when your kid is being physically attacked? Something's got to change. Don't be. Look, I I see this kid who's suffering in school. You've got the social element that there's no escape from. That's the emotional issue for him. His whole peer group, which is his whole world, mocking him, making him feel like garbage. And then he gets physically attacked. And he has his family's just asking the school, what are they doing about it? Well, nothing clearly. So what does the kid do? The kid doesn't understand what else there is. Yeah. Um, I, I, I have a, my son's, I have a son who's 10 years old. So this, this story is a really tough, I think for anybody, for anybody obviously um it's sort of unthinkable

it it's totally unthinkable that a child would would i can't even wrap my mind around it and one thing that i think we don't haven't quite wrapped all of our minds around is the fact that this is this whole phenomenon of of children committing suicide is very new it's very modern uh you know 100 years ago this just wasn't't happening. And now it happens all the time. And so it does. It is a reason to actually have a conversation about, like, why is this really happening? And I think that, look, from the parents' perspective, I think we can assume that they were doing a lot behind the scenes to work with their child and do everything they can. The problem is that you're sending your kid into this environment in schools.

There's only so much you can do. I could see, and I don't send my kid to public school, but let's say that I did and the child is having all these problems in school. It's like what, you can't go to the school with him and walk around with him and defend him from the bullies. You're sort of at the mercy of the school and you're at the mercy of the you're sort of at the mercy of the school and you're at the mercy of the administrators and you're at the mercy of the other kids.

And because what we thought we were talking about this a little bit off air, but the fundamental problem here is that these kids are going to a school and they're in this peer-oriented environment every single day. And then not only that, they go home, and because of the phones and the internet, they don't leave the peer environment. They don't leave peer culture. So they're in peer culture every single day physically,

and then it follows them. It's like this fog that just follows them everywhere. So what that means is that if a kid is rejected socially by his peers for whatever reason, there's nowhere for him to go to escape that. And at least like 30 years ago, if you were bullied in school, at least when you went home, like you're home now and you're with your family

and those kids can't get you anymore, but now it follows you. And so these kids, they feel like they're rejected by their peers. It's everywhere they turn, they're getting reminders of that rejection. And they feel like their life is over because this is their life. This is what defines their life. And so that's kind of how deep the problem goes. When we hear about these kinds of cases, we think, well, why is bullying happening? It's a problem with bullying. Well, kids have always been bullied.

And bullying is a terrible thing. And we should try to stop it in schools. Kids have always been bullied. And yet they weren't always committing suicide as a response to that. And why is it? Is it because kids are like weaker today? No. It's because of this peer orientation, this peer culture that they are totally immersed in

and cannot escape. And I think that's the fundamental problem. I look at the majority of human history and how children were raised. When the kid was old enough, the dad who is a carpenter would say, son, grab those nails over here. Come here. I'll show you what I'm doing. The kid would watch. There's not the same formal education in school and institutionalized learning that we have today. So the kids really did grow up with their families and the kids worked all day and the dad worked all day and the mom worked all day and they worked in different ways. And then at some point we got the industrialization of human society where instead of the children,

boys and girls growing up with their parents and living in the family, being on a farm, really for the most part, it turned into public schools that were like factories. Kids worked, but they worked in horrible conditions. And we were like, okay, this is bad. We can't have kids working these conditions. But the issue now is I don't blame the parents. Not at all. I think they're victims of a system that makes it impossible for parents to find a way out. The one thing I hear a lot of when I say things like homeschool your kids, try and get back to how humans actually raise their kids to the best of your ability. The way the economy is set up, it's nearly impossible for many parents. They're like, in order to have a roof over our heads and food, we both have to work.

We can't afford daycare. So public school is the only viable option. Then our kid is effectively being tortured in this environment. And neither of us can go to the school like you were saying, Matt, and intervene, can't afford to homeschool. And we don't know how to solve this problem. And I think that's one of the reasons programs like the Hope Scholarship in West Virginia are really important. Like having the option to say this school isn't working for my kid, I'm going to pull them with the Hope Scholarship, you get money to then send to a private school or use to homeschool, like making it so that parents can really be in charge

of the educational environment their children are in. Because I, you know, if you can't, if one parent can't stay home and homeschool, homeschooling is a lot of work, then maybe there's a private school in your area. Maybe there is a co-op you can join. Like being able to remove kids from educational situations that aren't working is really important, especially because there is

a social component to a lot of suicide trends. I mean, children, there are studies that talk about suicide pods where our schools that experience a suicide might see two or three more pop up in the next five years because there is the idea that like once it is in a student's mind, it makes a student that is potentially at a higher risk already more likely to commit. And I think especially young children are susceptible to suggestion. We see this in public schools all the time

when they're suggested ideas about gender, they're suggested ideas about religion, you know. And it's a vulnerable time, and I think the biggest thing we could do to offer parents in this position support is to make it possible for them to remove their student and in this case like if your kids attending public school and you're paying tax you're paying into that tax base like take the money with you and go somewhere else i don't think that making it so it's like well we as the

administrators kind of did nothing and you're kind of stuck like this is all we can offer you is enough i don't think it's good enough, especially for parents like this. You do a private school for your kids. Are they going to like a private Catholic school? Uh, we homeschool. Oh, okay. Homeschool. Yeah. Completely. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we had, you know, there, there are different, you know, when you homeschool, uh, kind of to your point, it's, it's, there are resources available. There are co-ops and that sort of thing, uh, that you can do with your kids. And that's, and that's, and there, there are, there are many more. There are co-ops and that sort of thing that you can do with your kid. And that's, and that's, and there, there are,

there are many more options now than there ever were before. Homeschooling has become a much more mainstream option for people. Although as much as I advocate homeschooling, I still understand that it is the reality that some parents just can't, you just can't do it. And it comes down to the, the economics of it, the finances of it. And you know, if you, if both parents like you need to work in order to keep a roof over your head, then public school might be the only option. And then I would say, if you're in that spot, the best thing you can do is make sure that when your kid comes home,

that he is home now and that your home is a different place entirely from the school and take away the phones, take away the internet as much as you possibly can. And it's like, we're home now together and give him that, give them that like oasis away from all the stuff at school. I think more people need to discover rural living. There's a, I was mentioning the viral video earlier from a Gen Z guy saying he can't afford to live. He can't afford to buy a house. What's up? And I'm like, well, you can in West Virginia. You can get, you can buy a house for like 70K, a nice one. It's just that you're in a rural area. You're not living in the big city, but a lot of people want to live in these cities. So I think there's a, there's a social cultural issue. I saw this interesting map of population density in Ireland and it used to be in the 1800s

completely even, like a couple hundred thousand people in every different district or whatever they're called. And now everyone's in Dublin, everyone. And I'm like, well, that hyper concentration is going to strain resources, the environment, the cost of living. People need to be more content with living further away from the cities. I understand that they have the challenge of gas. Gas gets expensive. That's why it matters. It's also access to jobs, right, for a lot of people that if you live in a rural area,

it necessitates them working from home. Which is becoming more accessible, but you're right. You are right. I'm just wondering if, you know, when I see a story like this and I hear about a man and a woman and they're saying, we both have to work full-time jobs to support this house. I'm just thinking like, is it possible? I don't know if it's even possible, but assuming it's possible to live like humans did a hundred years ago, get it, get a cheap plot of land in the middle of nowhere, build the house, work nonstop, get some animals and be self-sufficient. Is that a possibility today if you wanted to get away from this system and protect your

family? I mean, I think, of course, it is if that's what you're choosing to prioritize, right? Like if you're saying we both need to work to afford this home in this city and we pick the city because the schools are good, but actually all of our kids are suffering and having a bad time, like maybe you can go back to the drawing board and say, well, if we move over here and pay less, one of us can stay home or one can be home part-time or whatever it is.

You know, I think the challenge is you have to decide like what things are must-haves in your life and what are not. Like is living near the city because your job is there and you need the job to support your family a requirement? Maybe, but is it I'm living in the city because i want to be able to eat at restaurants that are open at midnight like you know you give that up when you go to real life it's it you have to plan differently like you know i know people who live you know more southern west virginia and

like they have one or two like a day of the month where they drive to costco and they buy everything they need and they drive back out to you know the woods. And cell service isn't always great. But the decision was that this is more in alignment with the values for our family and our financial goals or whatever it is. It's difficult. I think I've always heard this thing that you might be the one to speak to this, that there'll be these debates like which is hardest, going from two kids to three or three kids to four.

But I have this impression that it's actually going from zero to one and deciding that like you're going down this path of raising children. And that is the at the core of your of your life now, because you can't do some things that you want. And you maybe have to decide, OK, rural life where this house has more land, but it's farther from whatever thing, whatever luxury we like to in our younger 20s is the goal over, you know, being able to, you know, go to this bar down the street. I kind of think it's like the greatest thing ever. Just imagining having a homestead and waking up, feeding the chickens, chopping some wood, taking care of the cows, just sustaining off your land. And that sounds absolutely amazing. I have no interest in working with livestock, so that doesn't appeal to me.

But it sounds cool for someone. Like, I like the idea. I grew up in a really rural part of Connecticut. And the fact that, like, we had woods to run through, that was amazing. I would love to replicate that. And it's just, again, you have to decide, like, what do you want?

And when do you decide to go after it? Yeah, because even if you're not doing the full homestead thing, which I also like, I like the idea of it. I don't know if maybe like the second week of waking up. You want to muck out a stall? No, thank you. 5 a.m. to milk the freaking cows. I don't know how much I'd really love that.

But at least being, if you can, in an area where kids in general need space to go run and play. Boys in particular, not that girls don't need it, at least i've noticed with myself with with our kids that boys in particular they just need like space they they they they're just like brimming with energy and you can't and and and so many of these boys are being contained and they're being sort of like um anesthetized with uh we'll put them in front of a screen and uh because that makes it you you know, they're easier to manage that way. And yeah, you can kind of, but it's like a numbing effect. It's not an actual outlet that they need.

And I know like with my boys, they're just, you know, you let them loose in the woods and they go and they just want to run through the woods all day and they come home. And that's the childhood I grew up with. And people lament that that kind of childhood is gone these days but it's it doesn't have to be well it's also partly because of the stranger danger propaganda and maybe there's some

truth to it that we live in a more dangerous culture than we used to i was just seeing this psa that was on tv like 10 p.m do you you know where your children are? And it's supposed to remind parents that like, hey, the streetlights are on. They've been on for a few hours now. You should probably make sure your kids come home. But like they didn't worry about those things back then. I mean, it's worse than that now. When I was a kid, when I'm seven years old, I go outside. My mom, my mom's like, come, come back home when the streetlights come on.

And then I ride my bike and I'm gone. And I would ride around the neighborhood and it's funny as a little kid i remember if i got too far from my house i would start to feel worried i don't know i don't know what the right word is sure but i'd be like oh i'm probably going a little too far i'm like i i sense for kids to develop right like okay maybe it's time to head back to the home but now there's news reports where like someone got the police called on them because their kid was playing by themselves in the front yard and and then the police are like what's going on the parents i didn't want to say one thing you mentioned your boys like running through the yard uh we were we're hanging out with some family friends over the holidays and they have a young boy and a girl that are around a similar age the boy's a a little older. And we were talking about modern politics.

And they were like, look, we didn't learn nothing about, you know, like the gender stuff. We didn't need to. We had kids. One day the boy started smashing things and the girl started trying to protect them from him. And they were like, I don't know what to tell you. It just happened. We didn't teach him to do it. Yeah.

We had an interesting insight into that because we had a we had a interesting uh insight into that because we had our first kids were boy and girl twins and um and they always had access to the same like toys they were raised the same way in the same house and what do you know like from a very young age um that our daughter is going for the pink stuff and the in the dolls and brushing hair and stuff like that. The boy never showed any interest in any of that. He's breaking things. He wants trucks.

He wants all that. It is just, when you see that play out in real life, and of course the left's answer is, well, you socialize them into it. You were telling your daughter from birth that she must play with dolls. It's like, I never had to suggest it. It's just, it's a natural instinct. There was a study done. They studied like newborn infants, less than a day old. And, you know, immediately boys start tracking objects in the room. They track like, you know, like the lights and like anything mechanical.

And girls are looking at faces. Like, you can't tell me you socialize a 24-hour old infant to already have a preference. It's just the way their brains work i feel like women make people and men make things you know i mean they're motivated differently that's why they work in harmony you know it was good yeah there was a funny video where this woman's crying and she's like why won't boys think and it freezes and the guy goes they do think that's why the ceiling fan above you because a man invented that that's why there's a stereo over on the wall because a man invented that and it's like showing the inventors of it

but my my view is like yeah guys are good at making things and women are are the only ones who can make people you know and that's probably why the female babies are tracking faces they're concerned more with with humans and you know the sad thing is I don't think there's anything wrong with the – I'll put it this way. There's a meme online of when a guy takes a photo of something, he takes a photo of something. When a woman takes a photo of something, she takes a picture of herself in front of the thing. And guys laugh about it. And a lot of women feel bad about it. And I'm like, there's nothing to feel bad about.

Women care about people. Guys care about things. There's pros and there's cons to that. It's just men and women are complementary. Yeah, I've always said that's one of the reasons why the cliche that women gossip more than men, and I think that they certainly do. But I almost defend it because I say,

well, the reason why women gossip a lot is because they care about what's happening in the lives of people around them. The reason I don't gossip is just because I don't give a damn. So when you try to say, well, you're not going to believe what happened with those two people, I don't care. I'm not taking a moral stand against it. I just don't care what's happening with these people. My wife very much cares about everything that's happening around her and all the people and everything. Did you see that viral?

There's a viral bit from a comedian where he's like was hanging out with a good friend of mine you know he went through a divorce and uh you know hadn't heard from him a while so uh you know he hits me up and he says you know you want to go golfing i said sure and he's like when i come back my wife says so how is he and he goes i don't know and she's like well yes women recall like the minute details of every conversation, the exact wording. And it's like, how did she say it? He's like, he goes, my wife then says, is he seeing anybody? And he goes, didn't come up.

And she's like, did you talk to him? And he's like, not really. She's like, what were you doing? Were you with him? There's no understanding of the different ways that men and women bond with each other it's totally different and women didn't understand that when they started infiltrating male only spaces yeah like they thought we're not here because men are excluding us but it's really like men need to build each other like that they need spaces like that and to and to relate the way that we relate. I mean, I recently was

home back where I grew up and I got together with some friends I've known since elementary school. And it was a similar thing because we all went out for drinks. And a lot of these guys I haven't seen in like years. And then I go home to my wife. She's like, what's up? What's going on in their lives? I have no clue what's going on with any of them. I don't know. We didn't talk about that. What did you talk about? I bet you're saying what their jobs were. I'm genuinely curious. What came up?

We talked about Israel and Palestine. We talked about presidential elections. Rome. Yeah. We talked about football. It was the football season. We talked about things that are happening in the world. No one stopped and said, well, let me tell you what's going on in my life.

It never happened. Nick Freitas was here. Is it freightus or freed us freightus right anyway he's he's awesome he's a uh virginia politician and um we were talking about the difference in how men and women think you know and women will be like what are you thinking about and then you know he i forgot how he said it but it was really funny because he was like well sometimes it's just it doesn't i'm not thinking about anything and then they think that you that you're, you're upset or something. He's like, no, it's, I'm thinking about how many exits are in this Walmart and how do I secure it in the case of a zombie apocalypse? And it's like, and I was like, I, yeah, that's, that's what I'm, I'm,

I'm imagining weird stuff like that all the time. It's totally meaningless, but it's also very much like that viral meme where the guy and the women are walking through the building and the guy, it's like, you see the guy's face and he's like, oh, I got two exits to my left, one behind me. There's a guy who's over there. He's kind of sketchy. Let's move a little bit to the left. And the woman is going. But she's like that because she's with someone who she trusts, right?

Like men and women are supposed to be complimentary so that you can do different things. Like if your wife goes out and is like, hey, it turns out this family's moving and that might change what's going on in our lives and whatever else, like that's valuable information to know. Like obviously there is bad gossip, but we want men and women to function differently so that they can cover a huge set of skills.

If they all do the same thing, number one, women end up unhappy and also society doesn't function as well. Let's jump to this. We'll do one more segment here. We got this from SCNR. Target ditches Pride Month merchandise after last year's backlash. Company refuses to say how many stores will no longer sell LGBTQ items. The company announced May 9th that its Pride Month

apparel will be available online and only in select stores based on historical sales performance. This marks a shift from prior years during which the LGBTQ merchandise was available at all stores. Last spring, the company was forced to alter its marketing, excuse me, after facing a national outrage over pride themed merchandise. Target also sold tuck friendly swimsuits. Yeah, we get it, you know. Given these volatile circumstances, we are making adjustments to our plans, including removing items that have been at the center of the most significant confrontational behavior. They say that the company, which operates around 2,000 stores, moved pride displays from entrances in some stores around the U.S. and placed them in the back.

This is a major boycott victory. This is people walking into Target stores and seeing this tuck-friendly stuff right there in the front. There was one story where a family had walked in and had kids with them and they immediately like, whoa, like, I don't want my kids seeing this. And the kid having to ask mommy, what does tuck mean? And like, we don't, that's not something we can, our kids are prepared to see and we want to discuss with them. So much like, you know, the Bud Light boycott, we're now seeing Target is, is backing off. The boycotts are working. And I know a lot of people are often dismayed. They

feel blackpilled. They feel like we can't win and we can't have a more wholesome culture, but you can. And the most amazing thing about this is it happened literally because people just paid attention. It's a good news. Yeah. Paid attention. And I think part of what conservatives have figured out how to do in the last year or two,'s very it's very new uh and target and bud light of course bud lights the the number one victory but but both of these together is that it's not even just a boycott like a boycott is okay we're all gonna agree not to buy this thing anymore um and then boycotts event most of them don't work and but eventually they end and then you know you're back where you started uh but what's happened with target to a lesser extent bud light more so is that we actually have been able to it's like a branding like we've we've we have rebranded what this company is in people's minds

uh so that it's not even an effort to not purchase the product or not go there anymore it's like it's i don't even want it it's it's not cool i don't want to be a part of that anymore. It's just not part of my, you know, it's just not part of my routine anymore to be, uh, so that even if they change their ways, I probably won't, I probably still won't. Um, I agree. Right. It's it's, if I look at, if I'm looking up a store, cause I need to go buy a mop. I was talking about this earlier. I just don't go to the target. I'm just like, I don't even think about it. I don't care what their marketing is now. You know, to a certain degree, though, there's the question of, do we completely abandon these companies and say we just don't want to deal with it? Or do we reward them if they do the things we do want them to do?

I think if you get an actual surrender, essentially, like if and Bud Light even so it has not done this. But if they come out and say, I apologize for doing that, we apologize. We shouldn't have done that. We've committed. But that hasn't really happened with either one. I think we disagreed on that point. And there was like a shadow debate where I said something like Bud Light effectively giving up as an opportunity for us to declare victory. And then you said something on your show where you're like, no, no, I disagree.

We have to push forward and refuse to buy their product. My point was, even if they don't admit it, force them to just say we won. Oh, we won. Look at this. They're backing down. They're sponsoring UFC. That means we win. Ha ha, we win, which puts pressure on the woke to have to have some kind of counter. Otherwise, that's it. If there's no rebut, then it's ours. But I definitely see, I think your point was more, you have to get the apology. Otherwise, they're getting a free pass or something like that. It's an interesting argument. I could see the argument for it. It a it's a you know it's a strategy there we go it's a strategy and um and it's all about the messaging a lot of it is can you get that messaging to actually stick uh but i think that it if you don't get some kind of actual acknowledgement from the company

like they've done what you asked and if and they are telling you that they're doing what you asked, then I just don't think I think that trying to declare victory will be will appear hollow. Well, it's only a half victory if they're only removing the pride merch from half of the stores and probably only in red states. And we don't even know how many we don't even know if it's half. Yeah. Right. I, you know, so I cause for optimism that this stuff does have an impact because I see a lot of people saying that they tune out of the news. They're too pessimistic.

And I'm like, literally, look, you see the story about Target Bud Light. And all that happens is the next time you go to the liquor store, you go yingling and you grab a different case. Your day is not inconvenienced in any way. In fact, I got to say, if you're swapping Bud Light for yingling, your day has dramatically improved. So it's good. But this means that they see the negative sales. It forces them to do some kind of course correction.

And simply by knowing you're winning, voting with your dollars, voting with your feet. That's one of the reasons why I shot at Public Square all the time. And we had Michael Seifert on just the other day. You're familiar with Public Square? Yeah. Fantastic. Because you can just pull up the app and be like, I am from this company i don't want to buy from that company i think that's the major effect of the target boycats in my mind which is like it broke the habit of going to target for so many people and i it makes me wonder

like instead of going to target to get all the random things that they start going to the local franchises of of you know ace hardware or whatever is, and that money comes back into the community faster than if you were to send it through the big corporate pipeline of Target or even Walmart? Or did they go on Public Square? Did they look up something local and start deciding that's where I'm going to get this idea that, oh, it's just Saturday and I'm going to go to Target and look around, like once they stopped doing that, that sort of consumerist habit goes away. And that's what I think all of this ends up being about. Like, I think you're totally right. I don't think anyone could walk into a Target and even if they stopped selling the Pride merch in every store and it was only online, I think people would always associate it with this controversy. And I think that's a big enough deal where they would just continue down the

path of moving away from it. And I think we're going to see the real evidence of victory once we get to Pride Month, because my prediction is this is going to be the most muted Pride Month that we've seen in many years, because none of these companies, no matter what face they put on in public, none of them want to be the next Bud Light. They don't want to have a target. Especially during an election year. During an election year. It's not worth it to them.

It doesn't help their business. And at the end of the day, these are businesses and they want to make money and that's what they care about most. So I think this is going to be a very, this is going to be a very uninspired Pride Month this year, I think. The election year being a major component,

because this is every political faction looking for any opportunity to score points with months leading up to the, we're talking five months from the election. They are going to outright just be like, shut up. Every pack is going to try and find an angle. They're going to, you give them a controversy. You, you do some woke thing. Every Republican pack is going to be like Joe Biden. Whoa, remember this? Remember that? Don't let that be you.

So the risk factor is amplified like a hundredfold in an election year as opposed to two years ago. Yeah, everyone messages differently during an election year, I think. I mean, I think you'll see some brands sort of take it as a, well, we're going to try and be extra loud this Pride Month because, you know, the evil Republicans and religious people are coming after us. But for the most part, everyone is going to not want to draw attention to themselves and become the brand in the middle of a debate. Potentially, you know, the first debate between Trump and Biden is like June 27th.

So it's right at the end of Pride Month. If anyone has any sort of viral moment, it's coming up during that. Oh, wow. Yeah. And it will probably be a question if it does happen. You get a big Bud Light boycott moment. They will ask about it. They wouldn't be able to avoid it.

Yeah. That's going to be amazing. Then, of course, following Pride Month, we have MAGA Month, which is July. That's where. Do you observe MAGA Month in July? It's what's the month? MAGA Month. It's July. It's Make America Great Again Month. So everybody observe Maga Month in July? What's the month? Maga Month. It's July. It's Make America Great Again month. Is that a thing now? Yeah, you change your profile picture to an American flag.

Your companies have to do it, right? Yeah. Is that an actual thing we're trying to start? It's been on for like two years. It's never going to happen. Two years ago, I jokingly said it's Maga Month and we all changed our profile pictures to the same thing with American flags. A bunch of people did it too. It was, it's, it's, it's somewhat a joke, but there's, but it's, but it's have confidence. It's a great idea. Like I was just poking fun.

I'm like, if everyone was saying like, why is there a month dedicated to a, a, a small percent of people who have a certain predilection? Like if the argument is live and let live and do whatever you want, I don't see why we dedicate a corporate holiday month to this, decide this movement or whatever. And then I'm just like, why don't we do it with the American flag? It's the 4th of July. It's the month where we celebrate the founding of this nation.

Let's give a whole month to celebrating freedom and Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So then shouldn't the response be like a straight month, straight pride month. If you want to start that, I think September's open. You can take that over. We need to reject the category of happiness. So then shouldn't the response be like a straight month, straight pride month? If you want to start that, I think September's open. You can take that over. We need to reject the category of straight. Exactly. I agree. And that's why I thought normal pride month. Well, but this is why I thought MAGA month was that was instead of, instead of being reactionary

where it's like you did a thing and we're going to point you out, totally ignore them and do our thing. So if you did a straight pride month, you're basically saying we acknowledge you and what you've done. And now we are going to try and research. We don't need to, we don't need to. I mean, what I'd really like to see is that every month is just the month that it is. We don't need, we don't need, we don't need, I'd like to have no special months at all. Every, you know, the funny thing is like every month is like 15 different things now. Yeah. It's like June is Pride Month, but then there's like, there's Pride. Juneteenth

in the middle of it. Right, exactly. And then, what was it like, what, February is Black History Month, right? There's a month, but February is also like four different things. There's like International Women's Month or something. That's March. Is it March?

And the LGBT have, they have 40. A holiday every month. They're very, very busy. See, that's what I'm saying. We need, we should just make American holidays. So June 7th is American Exceptionalism Month Day. And September. Look, June 6th is the anniversary of D-Day.

We could just mark all kinds of things. We have tons of history. We have tons of holidays. I like christmas a bunch of easter all good times i don't think we need to make new ones well the reason why i said like part of the idea behind maga month is because first of all it it's disturbing me maga you keep saying maga yeah it's definitely maga okay fine maga month you got me okay maga month do people say maga somebody played donald trump saying it right now how does trump say it i don't know i can hear him say mega i'm gonna look it up i can maybe he says it kind of bold so you can't really

win the argument um no my idea was we as the culture of this country need to establish and embolden the culture of this country. The woke, they're making up holidays left and right. They're making up boards left and right. And they're forcing companies to adhere to it because they are trying to indoctrinate. Their response isn't to be like, yeah, well, we'll have a straight flag. It's to be like America, because we are America. We've been America. We could do family month, the celebration of the nuclear family week, those kinds of

things. I think those are fantastic. And make it less about acknowledging and reacting to them and more about asserting what we are and what we do care about. Free speech month. August is free speech month. You just say the most offensive things all month. I've heard about this free speech month.

Have you heard of the First Amendment? Maybe leap day. That's a good day for it. It's where you say things that are shockingly offensive, but it's all taken tongue in cheek. You know, like April Fool's Day. And that doesn't really mean anything. But leap day is the day where nothing counts. So you're supposed to have free speech and say whatever you want.

And no one's supposed to be able to get offended by it. Yeah, I mean, I like the. You are on to something, though, in a mag a month. I mean, I could go along with that actually restoring some sense of actual patriotism in the country and like making it okay to say that you you are actually proud of not only proud of uh your country but but it's it's history you know that that we've gotten to the point where that is it's it's controversial to be proud of the history of your own country even for a lot of so-called conservatives, they won't go that far.

Or at least they'll feel like they have to qualify it and say, well, yeah, I'm proud of that. But, you know, slavery was really bad and colonialism is a terrible thing. What about a colonizer pride month? You were arguing with people on Twitter about Indian reservations. Yeah, that's a hobby horse of mine is to go after the Indians. No, I mean, look, yes, colonize or pride with them. And colonization can be a great thing for the world. Like we would not live, none of the things that we love about living our lives, we would have without colonization.

And this is why it always annoys me when people talk about, you know, the plight of the natives in this country. Well, it's like, what would you have preferred to have happen? Like, would you have preferred it? Do you think it'd be better if the tide of civilization had just stopped at the Atlantic

and no one had ever come to this hemisphere? And so that this North and South America forever are 5,000 years behind living in the Stone Age. Like, first of all, is that even practical? Is that a practical thing to expect to have happened? That's kind of wild. Would like the Central America be medieval at this point? No, they would literally, most of these societies,

when I say they were 5,000 years behind, they would like quite literally were 5,000 years behind or longer than that. They hadn't invented the wheel. They didn't have a written language. They didn't have any conception of laws, really, in a lot of these societies. They had no governments. They had nothing. They were living like people lived 5,000, 10,000 years ago.

It's fascinating. I was reading a few different essays, articles about why that was and population density and landmass, they believe played a huge role. More conflict in Europe led to negotiating diplomacy, forced technological progression, militarism, farming, farming technologies due to, again, population density and a lack of space. And then in the Americas, it was very, very sparsely populated. And so any conflict could be resolved by simply moving. And so the pressure on those in this hemisphere was very much walk away and continue to live off the land, where in Europe, you're on a large peninsula and it's defend the land or die.

And I think that's an interesting theory, but also the population density only goes to show the absurdity of this idea that we stole the land. Because like the idea that if you had one tribe living in thousands of square miles of wilderness, the idea that they owned it and that no one else was allowed to come is just absurd.

It's ridiculous. Because when the settlers came here, most of the country, there was nobody living in. Most of the country was empty wilderness. There's also two important factors that are not really PC to talk about, but IQ differentials and Christianity.

Those are two things that were on the European side. That's a big reason why they... I think the most important factor is the accumulation of information passed down over generations, which is written language. And so a guy could write a book on how

to make gunpowder or something, hand it to his kid, and then forever now you have this military might that the people in the western hemisphere can't compete with yeah but but we do got to go to super chats we should definitely talk about this on the uncensored members only show it'll be a lot a lot of fun so if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends and become a member at timcast.com we'll carry over that conversation in the uncensored

show which where we'll have members calling but But for now, we'll read some super chats. All right. Jungle Run says, everyone have a backup plan. This is mine. And then he posted coordinates. I don't know those coordinates are. So hopefully it's family friendly. No Clint today, but token black guy says, howdy, people.

Howdy. Let's go. Shane H. Wilder says, good evening, Tim, Mary, Matt, Ian, Serge, and the rest of the gang. The reason Biden doesn't want an audience, doesn't want an audience at debate is he doesn't want Corn Pop showing up. I heard he was a bad dude. I thought Biden took care of Corn Pop. I thought he's not scared of him because he handled it.

I still think the story was that Biden was creeping on kids because he tells that story where the kids would rub his legs. And Corn Pop was probably a dude being like, man get away from those kids and then biden was like hey you you back off and swung a chain at him i think that sounds more realistic do they get to bring chains to the debate because i'm interested then that seems like it'd be more entertaining could you imagine if if what did joe biden say that they would put the the straight razor and the pet his leg hair right oh he said the kids would rub his legs. Yeah.

I forgot about that. That's crazy. Anyway. So disturbing. Debate rule. No one gets to wear shorts. All right, let's go. The Emperor's Champion says CNN has been critical of Biden lately.

Could this debate be an attempt to convince the DNC that Biden doesn't have a brain to go with... Brain and go with someone else? I don't know. I feel like the debate once he does it that's it he's the nominee yeah i don't think they have any kind of secret plan like that i think i think a lot of the uh power brokers in the democrat party right now are just saying to themselves well like biden's gonna lose and so we just have to get to work undermining trump for four years um and that and they're they're probably not as worried about a trump presidency some of

these guys as we might think they are because they know that they own the federal government and they are going to plan on doing what they did the first time and I don't think the networks would have gone without a debate right like they even if not as many people tune in every year they still make money off of it they want there to be a presidential debate that's how you know all of them end up getting some sort of four-year every, every, every cycle. All right, what do we got here? Mr. Taserface, good name says, Hey, Tim, I always love your vids. Have you heard of the Empire of Terror show on Daily Wire? It's really interesting that the Soviet Union's cruelty is almost never mentioned these days. Are you familiar with that show? I have idea no i'm kidding it is um yeah it's uh i

will highly recommend it i'm biased though what's what's uh what's the what's the general premise i haven't watched it about the soviet union though i imagine yeah i haven't actually watched it but well there you go i was hoping you wouldn't follow up and ask me questions about it but you did so but i i do know that it's good. All right. Oh, there you go. I believe you. Oh, questionable content says now that he's here again, I better hear Tim talk anime with Matt. I know he would love attack on Titans take on racial politics. Yeah. So what's your, what's your view on anime that comes up all the time? Yeah. Uh, infamously I, I once declared that, uh, anime is satanic.

And everyone knows that everything I say is 100% serious. I never deploy any sarcasm whatsoever. So clearly, I meant that quite literally. What's the percent then? If you didn't mean 100, what, like 95%? What, 95% satanic? Yeah. Yeah, it's at least 75% satanic.

But there's a 25% that isn't. I don't know. I did actually sit and watch an anime. It was the One Punch Man. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. It's silly.

It's fun, though. Yeah, it's just. I think they wanted you to watch the serious ones. Yeah, like Attack on Titan. You'd actually really enjoy. I hated Attack on Titan. A serious cartoon. So Attack on Titan, I'm going to spoil. I hated Attack on Titan. A serious cartoon. So Attack on Titan, I'm going to spoil it.

I'm just going to spoil it because I don't really expect you to watch the full thing. It's about, I'll give you the really simple version. On the surface, it's about gigantic monsters that eat people.

The actual politics of it is thousands of years ago, a group of people had a power over everyone else and ruled over them with an iron fist. For this, the people of years ago, a group of people had a power over everyone else and ruled over them with an iron fist. For this, the people of the world, like the king basically said, we are an evil, evil group of people who subjugated the world. So we must be punished for what we've done, isolates them on an island. And the rest of the world is basically saying, you're genetically

this, so you're bad. And they're on this isolated island, basically, which is a permanent prison camp for the crimes of their ancestors. So it actually is an interesting premise. However, it's a pretty weird show where there are giant monsters. Bad execution. I don't think so. Aren't they all weird? Aren't all?

Because I'll say One Punch Man had moments where I didn't hate it as much as I hated it at all the other moments. But it did feel very weird. Like there's just a weird vibe. It's like a parody of anime in and of itself. But I think people wanted you to watch Fullmetal Alchemist, I think. I'm just relaying information.

But don't watch Attack on Titan. It was horrible. I was forced to watch it. What's the best anime of all time? Sailor Moon. I'm kidding. Well, that's not an answer. It's like saying what's the best TV show of all time? Sailor Moon. I'm kidding. Well, that's not an answer. It's like saying, what's the best TV show of all time?

Is it Dragon Ball Z? Dragon Ball. Not Pokemon. Pokemon is like the blues clues of anime, right? When you're a little kid. It's like if you like watching dog fights, I guess, for kids. Dragon Ball Z is probably the most popular. There's Lupin the Third, which is one of the most popular,

but that's not really as big as in America. You go to Japan, there'll be Lupin, Goku, Dragon Ball Z, the Dragon Ball arc. It's Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z. There's a bunch of different shows.

The thing about Dragon Ball is that it's a Japanese superhero show. It's like saying, watch Superman. So sure, if you like Superman. For adults, for people who are interested in more mature shows, there's a Full Metal Alchemist. There's two arcs. There's the anime arc and the manga arc. So basically what happens is in Japan, someone makes a comic book, a graphic novel.

It gets licensed into a TV show. For this series, halfway through the graphic novel, the writer went on hiatus. So the animated version went on and carried on the story in their own vision. The general premise in both is corrupt government conspiracy to sacrifice people to empower the government. It's an interesting premise. Have you watched NGE? I'm not sure how to pronounce it it's neon genesis evangelion yeah i think a lot of people watching this would be like screaming that they want you to watch that right now are you guys all anime yeah i'm not a wee bit uh it just i would i would i would probably argue that i think most anime is bad it just is a handful of really good ones uh death note is

probably considered to be saying most anime is bad i say things like that and they want to stone me to death for it. You were very obviously joking if we're talking about the same video of you responding to the question. It was pretty obvious that you were joking. I like the idea that you were serious better. I feel like that's more funny. All jokes aside, you were right. You might like Death Note.

Death Note is considered one of the best of all time. It's about a high school student who finds a notebook laying on the ground. Death gods, shinigami is the Japanese word for grim reaper. One of them is bored. They live in an extra plan or dimension where they write down the names of people to kill them. And the remaining years of that person are added to the lifespans of these death gods. One of them is bored because he's immortal and he's lived for eons. So he drops the book in the human world to see what happens. And a high school student

finds the book, reads the rules and decides he's going to start mass executing all of the criminals from all the jails and everything around the world to send a message to the world that there is a defined power that will punish those who do evil. And then the game, yeah. That is what I would do with the book also. So what ends up happening is long, the simple version is Interpol trying, he intentionally kills people in a way that you can see a pattern. So he could write down in the book,

a person dies because a rock hits him in the head and they fall and gets hit by a car. He chooses to give no description, which defaults to heart attack. Generic, just you just die. When people start realizing that criminals all over are just dropping dead, dying suddenly, they realize this is an intentional act targeting specifically criminals that are named in the news. So there's a detective who tries to hunt him down, basically filling in the holes and setting traps to make him take actions.

And the show is basically a game of cat and mouse between a man who's trying to excise the world of criminals and detectives trying to stop them. It's, it's, there's interesting moral philosophies in it too, in that the detective believes that you can't just arbitrarily kill people. Whereas the high school student who throughout the show gets older believes that because these systems let the criminals go they continue to victimize people and the system never fixes itself you might enjoy that i it's an interesting plot um i just don't know why they couldn't make it with real people that's my that's the main thing i can't why did you have to do it as a cartoon i do it with people they did it's not good oh you know yeah

that was after the fact I know Netflix was responsible for that I guess some of the special effects of like you know

the interdimensions stuff like that like you might be able to depict it more accurately to the way

you're imagining if you can draw it out and CGI or whatever else might look weird I'm willing to I'm willing to consider the possibility

it might be something wrong in my brain but I can't like cartoons I just can't like cartoons. I just can't get into them. Except for Mr. Bertram on daily wire. Plus there you go.

It's a great question. And then I also feel the same way about musicals. Like I just, when they start singing, it takes me out of it. I can't get into it anymore. So I don't know. I'm very literal minded.

I don't know. So one thing I would say for, for kids, like when I was younger, the anime that I watched and the reason why it's so popular is the through line for most of the most popular shows is a kid with no natural talent who knows that in order to be the best, he has to work as hard as possible to earn his place. So Pokemon did this miserably.

First of all, Pokemon's a weird show. It's where they dogfight, basically. The kid Ash loses every single time. But a few examples are My Hero Academia is popular right now with like teenagers and young people. Naruto was huge. That story, that whole anime ended and they're doing a continuation. And then you have Black Clover. The general premise, Naruto, a kid who's a loser and is made fun of, wants to be effectively the president. He wants to be the greatest warrior. He's a ninja. And he struggles and works as hard as possible with no natural talent, is made fun of and

ridiculed, but he never gives up and eventually becomes the best. Black Clover is a kid who's born with no magic powers in a world of magic. So he trains himself to become as physically powerful as possible. And then my favorite point of that story is when he enters the magical tournament, they are mocking him like you're weak, you have no magic. And then he's so fast and strong that he knocks it out in a single punch. And then proving that you don't need to be, you know, that you can earn your place. You can work hard to accomplish it. I love that. Yeah. Someone told me to recommend Peppa Pig. All right. Anyway, like the chat's blowing up with people being like watch this watch that

this is the longest i've ever talked about anime in my life and it will be the last time yeah probably all right let's grab some more super chats roberts krivitis krivitz krivitz says hey tim been watching since the beginning my wife and i trying to get pregnant have i have to do iui can you please shut out our give send goGo? Is that IUI? Just search trying to start a family, thanks, on GiveSendGo. Best of luck. Best of luck. What is IUI? Interuterine insemination. Ah, okay. I was wondering if I was getting it wrong because I wasn't familiar.

Is that IVF, basically? No. I mean, there like some fertility drugs involved but the it's just like fertility treatment involves placing sperm into the uterus directly instead of conceiving outside in like a petri dish you'll you'll like this one man we get a lot of super chats like this Tyler Reed says just started induction at the hospital with our first baby only two genders not sure which one but we're listening to IRL as we wait for the baby to arrive in honor of IRL we're naming the baby Tim Phil Hannah cross Coglin look I'm just telling you double names are really difficult for American society so you may want to reconsider except double name this is their first kid that they're we yeah I believe

yes last week sent a similar super chat he's like my wife is being a deuce right now and I'm listening to IRL we've gotten super chats like that on pop culture too like I'm super chatting as my wife is in labor

I'm like maybe you should leave maybe you should just go attend to that sometimes labors take a long time you're both listening a lot of we get a lot

of super chats from people who are like you know my first kid is on the way and expected tonight or tomorrow really excited thank you and well it's nice of that guy to be you know, my first kid is on the way and expected tonight or tomorrow. Really excited. Thank you. Well, it's nice of that guy to be, you know, in the room with his wife.

For my wife's births, I went to the smoking room and I said, I'll check back when the baby's born. Had a cigar, some whiskey. Manly. I didn't actually do that. But that's the way they used to. Back in the day, that's the way it was done. Maybe she wanted you not to be there, though. Like in that scenario, she's like, you're a fainter, get out of here.

Yeah, I think it could work for everybody. Shane H. Wilder says, I would say that any good Catholic man would have an opinion about abortion and despise the practice. What does it say? Nice, I churro tat, Matt? What does that say? I'm not sure what that word is. Cairo. Cairo, is that what it is?

Okay, it's like an R and it was broke up. Yeah, it's an ancient Christian symbol. Is RFKfk catholic hypothetically all the i know he's a canadian but again hypothetically all the candidates i don't i don't think name in name only but i wouldn't even is trump even practicing christian uh he like attends services i think he said before that he's i think he would say that he is yeah yeah you know i don't like she's catholic yeah i believe that is she yeah like biden i don't believe he's catholic he's no no he's not right yeah that's no i mean you can't he he expressly uh denies the church's moral authority on a whole host of issues which means you literally can't be catholic and do that so that would disqualify a lot of catholics right

let's see what do we have what do we have i'm trying to find uh here we go uh monk in training says i'm an orthodox jew how is this anti-semitism bill legal it's the biggest black pill for me and will cause more anti-semitism and possibly a catastrophic undesirable event for jews in america daylight and truth beats hate. I think it's a ridiculous idea. And you're seeing a lot of people online trying to use it to justify their conspiracy theories. It's a terrible idea and it shouldn't have happened. I think the question is, why did so many people vote in favor of it? Like, are they afraid of being labeled as anti-Semitic? Because it's not legal per se. Like, it hasn't been passed by the Senate. It hypothetically could die.

It doesn't necessarily become law. But the question is like, why did enough people in Congress either read that definition and think, great, no problem, or did they just not read it? Does that mean that they're awful at their jobs? I think it's a combination of the two.

I mean, yeah, the black pill part of it has been the number of Republicans that have, as you pointed out, that have gotten on board with this not not just by the way because there's the federal level this law that's that we talked about uh but on the state level there have been similar measures and that often go back to this whatever it is the holocaust uh international holocaust society whatever the group is yeah holocaust remembrance or something right like that's of the many app or something right like that's of the many appalling aspects of this that's maybe the most appalling is that this this

organization is like an intergovernmental agency and we're allowing them to set the terms for our laws which mean these so these basically we are farming this out to other governments giving them influence over our laws um and then and then you have, like one of the examples of anti-Semitism that this organization gives has to do with making criticisms of the state of Israel. Right.

And then Israel itself is in this organization. So it's sort of like Israel has a hand in saying that it's illegal to criticize them. It's like, it's absurd. There was a tweet from Ben. He was criticizing it, saying this is the last thing we need. Like, you know it's like there was a there was a tweet from ben he was criticizing

it saying this is the last thing we need like you know another another free attack on free speech i retweeted that there was something maybe from you or whatever and the generic responses from people were it didn't even matter what ben said no matter what he said they assumed it was the opposite because they just don't like jews uh that's why it's funny when when i when this law was first uh when they were the news this law first broke and i i came out against it really strong very strongly and then of course all the responses to me were wait till ben wait till ben shapiro here's your take on this he's not gonna be happy it's like you know not that we we didn't have any conversation about what my take on this. He's not going to be happy. It's like, you know, not that we, we didn't have

any conversation about what my take on it is, but it didn't surprise me when he came out a day later and was like, yeah, I'm against it too. It's a basic free, it's a basic free speech thing. It's kind of wild because I think a lot of people don't actually watch the content, especially like backstage. Cause I saw clips from, it was like you, Jeremy, Ben, and others were talking about Israel and these issues. And it was like a nuanced discussion with varying opinions. But the assumption is that if like, it doesn't happen, the Daily Wire doesn't doesn't have any, like, no matter what, it's always going to be pro-Israel, no matter what happens, even if it's the anti-Semitism bill. Yeah, yeah. And my my take on on all this, and I'm very non-interventionist. People call me isolationist. I'll take that label, I suppose. It's always

been my view. And, you know, I've argued about we've debated this, as you say, on air many times. And it's a crazy thing, because on this show, we've actually argued and like I've gotten heated and pissed about the U.S., you know, building that dock off of that pier in Gaza, which is an invasion. It's a beachhead. I don't care what anyone else wants to call it. We shouldn't be involved. I don't see why we're funding foreign wars. I don't know that I would say isolationist, but my attitude is before we spend money literally anywhere else, we can secure our borders, we can fix our roads, we can build our bridges. And I still get people claiming that I'm wanting to fund Israel. It makes literally no sense. Yeah. I mean, countries have the right to defend themselves. And so, you know, and the other thing too, is that it's sort of the law of

the land, the law of conquest, sort of which supersedes all everything else, just sort of because it's the reality of things, which is that if you want to exist as a country you have to be able to defend yourself you have the right to defend yourself if you can't defend yourself you're not going to exist as a country anymore and um and so that should that that process should be allowed to play out we don't as america we don't have to be the arbiters over which country wins and which country uh loses all right no soup soup for Knowles says Matt loved your voice work in Mr. Burcham, chip chiller and freedom tunes. Thanksgiving fact.

I was the one who pitched the idea to Seamus. Any more voice acting on the horizon? I'm a terrible voice actor. I am so bad. You're in chip chiller. Yeah. I'm terrible there too. Oh,

I'm really, really bad at voice acting. It's actually, you think it's, it's easy to do because it's just your voice. At least I thought it would be easy. But then when you're sitting in the room and in the little box and you're reading the lines,

you see that there's some real nuance to being a good voice actor. Yeah. And I just don't, I don't have it. And you need a director. Like I've explained this because I'm the voice of Dr. Fauci on Freedom Tunes. And so Seamus can send me a script

and it's just text on a page. And if the line is something like, you don't need to wear two masks, you don't need to be wearing two masks. That's how I do it. And then Seamus goes, actually, the way he's saying it is he's panicked and he's pulling on his, you know, his shirt as he's sweating. So you just say it more like, and then he tells me what to do. And then I just try to imitate his vision of it.

Yeah. It's actually not like, you don't just read the lines and then you're done yeah i will say that uh of course bircham and chip chilla both had very good directors that and they were in the room working with me it's like no this is this is the inspiration this is what this is what you're supposed to do and i did it over and over and over again but every time i read the line it sounded exactly the same as the time before. And because they do one, it's like, okay, do one where it sounds like you're scared. And then I do it.

And okay, well, in this one, you're happy. And I do it the same again. So I tried. It's you though. It's like what you'd expect of Matt Walsh, you know? Like you have that, that's how you are. Maybe they just have to write you into these things and you would be yourself. Because I have no emotions that's how you are. Maybe they just have to write you into these things and you would be yourself.

Because I have no emotions. I'm a robot. We'll grab a couple more. We got another anime one. ChickenLady1980 says, Tim is like the brother I never had and Matt is like the dad I never had. This is the crossover episode I've been waiting for.

Tim, isn't it a shame Matt feels the way he does about anime? Sorry, sweet daddy Walsh, I had to do it. Well, we dedicated 10 minutes to talking about anime so we can move on from that one. People must love it though when people they follow from different platforms sort of merge together and they get to see them interact. It's sort of a

worlds colliding type moment. But you've been on the show before, right? Been on a couple times, yeah. Oh wait, what is this uh eris roy says too bad tim isn't giving away that car anymore my wife and i could really use it about now if you would shut up my give send go i'd appreciate you family freedom vehicle love all the cast walsh okay so uh i bought a junker car for a couple hundred bucks that has 240 mile000 miles on it. I don't know if it even works. I was buying a car and someone was doing a trade at the same time.

And my brother saw it and he was like, hey, we should get that. Like could be used for something, a couple hundred bucks. So I bought it. And then I was like, it would be really funny if we did a car giveaway where it's me standing next to a Tesla Model S saying you could win a car. And then as soon as the video starts, the camera pans to the Chevy Cobalt 2006 with 240,000 miles on it. And you win that one instead.

And if you do win it, you have 24 hours to get off my property. Otherwise, we're billing you for it. If you really want that car, you can have it. Is that the bright yellow one? Yes. I think we might just, I don't know. I don't know anything about cars,

but that one seems really nice. Hey, sometimes a car's a car, you know what I mean? Especially in this day and age. I feel like it makes a difference if it runs, though, you know? Ash Eel says, my anime recommendations for you is Spice and Wolf, Mayu, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, The Heroic Legend of Arsian, Silver Spoon, Trigun, and Cowboy Bebop. Hang on, let me write these down. It's really flattering that they want you to enjoy the things they enjoy.

Yeah. I don't mind that. It's the demand. When the demands come in and when they get mad when I don't like it, that's the part. Yeah. Because I don't have that when people—it's always weird to me when I say I don't like some pop culture thing, and people get angry. Because there are plenty of things I like. Despite popular opinion, I do like some things. And when other people don't like it, it doesn't make get angry. Because there are plenty of things I like. Despite popular opinion, I do like some things.

And when other people don't like it, it doesn't make me angry. I don't understand that. So I don't get what people are... In this case, when you're like, I don't like it, this format. They're like, but watch it again. But try this one. That's literally my life. We're going to go to the members show.

And I really do want to talk about colonization. Because we're starting to get into the heat of what it means. And I think it'll be a fun conversation. So smash that like button if you haven't already. One like equals one. Let's go, Brandon. That's apparently works much better for getting likes and head over to Timcast dot com. Click join us. We're going to have a member calling show and we're going to talk about colonization should be fun. You can follow me at Timcast on X and Instagram. You can follow me at TimCast on X and Instagram. You can follow TimCast IRL on Rumble as well as YouTube. Subscribe here.

Smash the like button. Matt, do you want to shout anything out? Well, my show, Judged, debuts new episodes every Tuesday on the Daily Wire. So go to dailywire.com, get signed up, and watch the show. Cool. It looks funny. Is it very funny, or is it meant to be serious?

What's been your favorite dispute so far? There's so many terrible ones. In the best way, in the best way. We did have one, I think it was the second episode, it was a guy who he enlisted his niece to go buy marijuana for him with her medical marijuana card. And then she went and did that. And then she gave the weed away on the way home to all of her friends and smoked it. So he's suing her to recoup his drug money.

Amazing. So that was a... Are you like, sir, that was a crime? Yeah. I mean, you know, no court in the land would take that one because you clearly have no case. And I don't want to give any spoilers away. He obviously did lose the case. But I did.

I'm like, well, convince me. I mean, give me give me a reason to take your side in this. And he wasn't able to. Right on. Mary, shout something out. Yeah. You guys can find me on Pop Culture Crisis. We're going to go live at 3 p.m. tomorrow.

So go subscribe over there. And if you want to send me hate, validation, whatever is in your heart, my Instagram and Twitter are both Mary Archived. I'm Hannah Claire Brummel. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. That's Scanner News. I'm really grateful to be part of that team. You can follow all of their work at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram. If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Instagram at HannahClalaire.b and I'm on Twitter at hannaclaireb.

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