Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1030 FBI Authorized LETHAL FORCE AGAINST TRUMP At Mar-A-Lago Raid w/Bradley Devlin

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil, & Serge are joined by Bradley Devlin to discuss the bombshell report that the Biden FBI was authorized to use deadly force during the raid of Mar-A-Lago, the judge in the Trump trial going off on one of the defense's witnesses, the soaring costs of fast food under Joe Biden, and the consequences Democrats are facing for supporting Hamas & Antifa. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Serge @sergedotcom (everywhere) Guest: Bradley Devlin @bradleydevlin (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This may be one of the most shocking stories we've gotten in a long time. It is huge news. The FBI authorized the use of lethal force against Donald Trump and his security personnel at his property during the Mar-a-Lago raid. And to make it worse, the FBI agents were instructed to be in unmarked clothing. I feel like this was an attempt at violence, like they were trying to provoke Trump. This raid was unnecessary. We've seen with, say, the raid on Roger Stone at four in the morning, this excessive use of force. I think they're intentionally trying to incite something.

Some have suggested this was a passive assassination attempt. You do not need ever in any capacity to authorize lethal force against a former president for any reason. It just makes no sense. And this is now coming out in Newsweek, Politico. The documents are being dropped all over Twitter. Confirmed news. They did this. This is insane. We're going to talk about that.

Plus, in the Trump hush money trial, the defense is arrested after one day. And it was already nuts yesterday when the judge was like screaming, yelling at one of the witnesses. This does not seem like a real trial. And now questions, of course, as to what is actually going to happen this November. And I want to give a shout out to our good friend Bill Maher over at his show, because he called Joe Biden cadaver-like and Dracula on The View. And so I can respect Bill Maher being wrong about a lot of things,

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than the last one. We're getting there. Most places get you out here and then all of a sudden you're in like a tiny box for three hours. No, this is great. Yeah. A lot of people were saying the last studio, I thought it was really small and it was longer, but now this room is actually evened out and big, which gave us a little echo problem. But, you know, we're there. So thanks for hanging out, Bradley. We got Phil hanging out. Hello, everybody.

My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. All That Remains. My goodness. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Hello, Hannah Clare. Hi. I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.

I'm a writer for SCNR.com, Scanner News. I'm really grateful to be part of that team. Hi, Serge. Hello, Hannah Clare. Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. I'm a writer for SCNR.com, Scanner News. I'm really grateful to be part of that team. Hi, Serge. Hello, Hannah Clare. I'm Serge. I'm ready to start when you are, Tim. Here we go from the Post Millennial revealed. Biden's FBI authorized use of deadly force when necessary during a Mar-a-Lago raid.

Law enforcement officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force when necessary. It's a direct quote from the documents. I'll back it up. We got Newsweek. FBI was prepared to use deadly force at Mar-a-Lago Raid. The reason why these two headlines are important and they are different is that not only did they authorize the FBI to use lethal force, but they showed up with the weapons ready and capable to do so. And now we'll add one more on top. In this filing, this document released by Julie Kelly, we can see in the document it says, law enforcement officers, the Department of Justice may use deadly force when necessary.

The agents planned to bring standard issue weapons, ammo, handcuffs, and medium and large size bolt cutters. But they were instructed to wear unmarked polo or collared shirts and to keep law enforcement equipment concealed. I'm gonna tell you my opinions right away. This there, there is no competent human who does this without the expectation. This could lead to death, uh, to, to an active shootout between the Secret Service and unmarked law enforcement agents. We all remember the story of, what was that woman's name? We all remember the story.

I can't remember her name. She was, they claim that she was sleeping in her bed and she was shot by the cops. Breonna Taylor. Taylor, there you go. I know it was Breonna, but I'm like, which Breonna was it? And now they say that the police, you know, didn't announce themselves or whatever.

They say they did, regardless of the fact of that case. I believe, you know, we've actually interviewed one of the cops involved and they did announce themselves. They knocked and then, you know, the guy shot at them.

I'm only bringing the story up because the left's perspective on it was that she was sleeping in her bed and these cops didn't announce themselves and opened fire on her. That means it is well established in the psyche of your liberals, of your Democrats, that police officers who show up to enforce the law but are not wearing identifiable outfits create the perception of a burglary or a robbery or an assault attack. This had the potential, the high potential, in my opinion, to result in Trump's security guards.

I was just at Mar-a-Lago, I'll tell you, and Secret Service. Yeah. Not not being aware of what was going on and seeing a dude in plain clothes with a gun rushing onto the property. You might be thinking like, hey, hey, who's this guy? And the guy, we're lucky it did not escalate to this. Yeah. Many people on social media are already saying this was an assassination attempt.

Could you imagine if what could have happened if this went the way of one of these stories we hear in the press where, you know, cops who don't identify themselves end up getting into shootouts? I almost think that either these people are as stupid as stupid can be, or they were crossing their fingers that they would get a news report of trump security opens fire on fbi do they think that donald trump is like like scarface because you know that the only people that are going to be actually like engaging with them if there were to be a gunfight it would be secret service

it would be you know fbi versus secret because Because Donald Trump ain't going to be there with a machine gun, like, come and get me. So the idea that it was like to, I mean, I don't understand why the Department of Justice would say, we're allowing you to get into a gunfight. We're saying it's acceptable for you to get into a gunfight with the Secret Service. Because, again, it's not Donald Trump.

They could just call the Secret Service and say, we're going to have some two FBI agents going to come down and we're going to do a sweep. And they would have been like, you got it. Yeah. No questions asked. And one other thing. Shout out Julie Kelly. Oh, absolutely.

Her work has been invaluable on everything, whether it was 2020 election related or it was, you know, the Trump trials related. I mean, she's been on fire with this stuff. And that's, we were talking a little bit about it before the show, like, who do you think is there? Oh, it's the Secret Service, right? We had heard reports in the past that Secret Service had coordinated with Trump

and with the DOJ and with the archives about this documents problem. Now we need to know exactly what the Secret Service knew, because if the Secret Service didn't know anything, I mean. I think these documents prove they didn't because there's a line in one of them, if I'm not if I'm remembering correctly, where it says, you know, if the U.S. Secret Service resists, like here's how to proceed. They talk about the possibility that the Secret Service are not working with them. Now, here's how to proceed. They talk about the possibility that the secret service are not working with them. Now, maybe that's to account for a potential agent who's like, hey, I don't believe in this. But really, it seems like they were operating completely

independently than this other government agency. And the only reason they would do that is to have the element of surprise. Now, again, what are we expecting? Donald Trump to be there, you know, armed and dangerous, ready to defend his territory? That doesn't seem like it, however cool that visual might be to some people. The reality is they treated him like a hostile mob member because that's how they perceive him. They believe that he is incredibly dangerous and that he is, you know, capable of harming people in a crazy way when in fact they are setting up a situation that could become incredibly dangerous quickly. And like Tim is saying, this is a narrative that everyone on the left repeats all the time. If you have a plainclothes officer who doesn't identify themselves, they actually,

theoretically, in the minds of the left, create the dangerous situation. Now, why would you send all of these people in in unmarked polos? What are we trying to accomplish here? I think the defense will be from the other side of the aisle from the Biden administration. Oh, well, you know, he's a former president. So we didn't want to seem like we were just swarming Mar-a-Lago, except we all know we all saw the videos. This is exactly what they wanted it to seem like, because again, to them, Trump is a corrupt mod boss who they have the right to stand up against. They're not based in reality. They're based on their own delusion. Any sane operation against a former president like they go to Joe Biden's house, they find documents. I honest question. Are they going to have in those in those warrants

for the searching of Joe Biden's properties, use of lethal force? I really doubt it. I doubt it. And if they do, wow, then we need to – then all the criticisms of the FBI are warranted. The idea that they have to worry about a former president who's under Secret Service. They can't go to the Secret Service and say, okay, hey, guys, we're going to be – I'm assuming they even inform the Secret Service, right? There's no justification for the bringing of weapons and the use of deadly force in this capacity. None whatsoever. It could have only resulted in something devastating to this country. If it if I mean, they open the door to unmarked law enforcement showing up.

Let's say Trump's security at Mar-a-Lago had no idea. And with lack of communication, a fight breaks out. Somebody gets shot. A shootout ensues. What do you think would happen to this country if the news reports came out saying FBI and Trump security are in an active gun fight this this this would it would i don't know what were they hoping for like to escalate some kind of january 6th type scenario i don't know i assume that i mean maybe like you were saying hannah clare maybe it's uh it's that they were expecting

or anticipating the possibility of secret Service being loyal to Trump. But even still, it just seems so ridiculous. And they could have told them then, right? If they thought he was loyal to Trump, they should have informed them ahead of time to, again, prevent any kind of violence. Yeah, I feel like this all would have been just simply an interagency phone call. Hey, we're, you know, these things are, you know, we're going to come and get these things because blah, blah, blah. all would have been just simply an interagency phone call. Yeah. Hey, we're, you know, these things are, you know, we're going to come and get these things because blah, blah, blah.

Maybe. I don't know. How much did the president know? You have two portions of the executive branch potentially getting to a shootout with one another in this situation. Like Merrick Garland has to contact the big guy, right? Presumably. Presumably. So what does the president know about this situation? Sounds like Republicans in Congress might have some interest in subpoenaing some people. No, Republicans in Congress are stupid and terrible.

They don't. They should ask for answers for sure. But the other part of this is that we know that the Biden administration is somewhat dysfunctional. I mean, how could the defense secretary go missing for like a week and not tell anyone unless it's normal for people to go offline and not tell Biden what's going on? Either way, this doesn't paint a good picture for the Biden administration. And there are parts of it where I want to say, like I saw some reports, you know, pointing out that there was a medic on scene that part of the filing points out, like if anything happens, you'll go to this hospital. And if we're giving them benefit of the doubt, let's say that's just standard protocol. If you're going to authorize this type of force, then you have to have a plan for this kind of thing.

But the fact that this was just a conversation, everybody was like, well, obviously there's a chance that this kind of force could be necessary is bizarre to me. And again, I can't help but stress, I think this shows how deranged people are when it comes to Donald Trump. And that puts a lot of people in danger. It puts anyone who supports him into a level, it makes them vulnerable to a level of people are constantly concerned about what's going to happen this november and there's a lot of people who live it's really fascinating if you say if you report on a story like this and just show the document where they were showing up with standard issue weapons ammo ammo and the preparation and authorization to use deadly force.

There are people are going to get mad. They're going to be like, this is this is crazy. You shouldn't talk about this. You're fanning the flames. You're encouraging civil war. If you don't talk about it, then you get people who are being like, why aren't you talking about the important issues? They they're it's just people are going to get mad no matter what.

And the challenge, I suppose, is knowing when these stories are flash, when it's a flash in the pan. Or are we really inching towards some kind of actual catastrophe? I feel like, you know, in the winter, things get slow. Things in the winter get abstract. You hear a lot of words from politicians. And there's a lot of news related to the social goings on. And then in the summer, things get physical and you hear more news related to physical actions, riots, protests, et cetera.

But it does seem like a lot of people seem to forget over the winter months. It's like in the summer, it's like, this is crazy. How can this country withstand this? Oh, man, 2024 is going to get nuts. The news is going to be crazy. Then winter comes and everyone's like, you know how can this country withstand this oh man 2024 is going to get nuts the news is going to be crazy then winter comes and everyone's like you know things are kind of all right springtime comes everybody's going out and it's like friday night we're going to go to the bar and we're going to chill and the news gets a little dry and then everyone's like why did anyone think things were bad in this country and then they're like oh here's a release of

documents showing that they had authorized a deadly force against the former president and you're like oh that's why yeah you. Yeah. You mentioned November. I mean, this does seem like a gut check to the normies, especially the normies who hold out on Trump because they are afraid that the 45th president is constantly, always and everywhere breaking every constitutional norm possible. And then they make some argument about our democracy. These documents prove that the Biden administration, the so-called adults that were supposed to be in the room, right, the so-called return to normal, basically means effectively that the Constitution is a dead letter, right? Because either the executive of this country has been vested with the executive

power and powers and duties that correspond with it or not. And very clearly, the government is operating off of the assumption that the president has no authority whatsoever. So like, if you actually do want to reinstall a semblance of constitutional order, maybe, just maybe, you give another guy a chance. And, you know, we saw that in the last six months of the Trump administration where they tried to throw it out against him. Remember when Mark Milley contacted his Chinese counterpart and said, I'd give you a heads up if we're going to attack. Like, at least Trump fought tooth and nail. He wasn't always successful. He didn't always have the personnel to best help him do it.

But at least he, like, has a gut instinct for I am the president of the United States and therefore preside over the executive branch. And that actually is, you know, regardless of any law degree that Biden may or may not have gotten, like that seems more constitutional than any sort of constitutionalism that Biden and his administration is putting forward at the moment. Well, let's jump to the next big breaking story as it pertains to Donald Trump. The hush money trials entered its new phase after the defense rests without testimony from the former president. I can't say I'm very surprised, but the Trump defense team had half a day.

Was it was it half a day of defense? That was it. They called two witnesses. That was it. Yeah. And the judge lost his mind. So the actually the big story here, which we didn't really talk about too much yesterday, but I think actually is. Well, it's it's it's a bit shocking. Are you staring me down? Furious judge clears courtroom after Trump defense witness sighs and rolls eyes. You know what I think? Okay, so here's the story real quick. They called Robert Costello, who completely obliterated

the prosecution's case. Former lawyer or legal advisor, depending on the reports, they, you know, some reports say he was a lawyer, for Cohen, saying Cohen had nothing. Cohen said he would lie. Cohen did this of his own volition. And what we learned from this is that if the defense is telling the truth, Cohen stole around a quarter of a million dollars in the Trump organization without Trump knowing. The reimbursement for Stormy Daniels, Trump didn't know about. The 30K he stole and pocketed from the money that was supposed to go to Red Finch, Trump didn't know about. The tax reimbursement, they didn't know about. The tax reimbursement also shows that they thought they were just paying Cohen for his labor. Here's your labor plus additional for any tax liability that

you may incur due to, you know, taking care of these things or paying for services. And they had no idea. Now that's if the defense is telling the truth. When Costello comes in to testify, the judge basically refuses to allow him, which is crazy considering that Stormy Daniels effectively accused Trump of raping her. But then Costello comes up and says, I was his lawyer, here's what happened. They're just like, shut your mouth.

The judge actually yells at him. Like, it is unheard of. All these political commentators and pundits on TV are like a judge yelling at a witness. This is crazy. Clearly, what I see is Judge Mershon, he's on the side of the prosecution. No question.

This is not a real trial. And correct me if I'm wrong, but Mershon was appointed for this. It wasn't through the traditional judicial process. That's one report. I don't know if that's true. I can't remember off the top of my mind. Mers that he wasn't chosen by the normal process. I might be getting my wires crossed here. But I know that Judge McAfee in Georgia presiding over the Fulton County case, he was appointed and this is his first time going up for reelection. Wow. So this is it. The Trump

the Trump team has arrested. They've rested their case. And now what's going to happen is I think the judge says he's going to give instructions to the jury on Thursday and then they're going to reconvene on Tuesday for closing arguments. I could be wrong because initially they said they would reconvene next week. Yeah, they're going to reconvene on the 28th. So what the judge said was because we have Memorial Day coming up on Monday, we're going and the defense is rested rather than have, you know, start summations now and have it get interrupted by the end of the court day, we're going to wait.

You guys are going to come back. You're going to hear from both the defense and the prosecution back to back. I'll give you your instructions for the day that we think it'll take about an hour. And he says, basically, he doesn't think they'll start deliberating until the 29th, which is Wednesday.

And he's saying it's to prevent a long gap between, you know, the end of summations and deliberations, which makes sense. Initially, when I was reading it, I was sort of like, but you are creating kind of a long gap here. I guess we can't avoid it because tomorrow's Wednesday, they're typically off on Wednesdays. You know, hypothetically, they could have summations on Thursday and start deliberations on Friday. But I guess that's not how he wants to handle it. You know, this whole case is really interesting to me because so much of it just completely rested on the shoulders of Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen, who's been convicted of lying under oath and of campaign finance and tax

evasion. So he's got a background of financial crime and he's been convicted of lying. And unsurprisingly, yesterday, he was once again like, yes, I am a thief and a liar. And this is what the New York state had. There are other reports that talk about the fact that this case has come up and different people, including Allen Bragg's office, had been like, well, we're not going to take it. We're not going to take it. They didn't take it until the end when there were all these other cases up against Trump. And I think that's because it's obviously not a great position to be in. I just don't know that

Michael Cohen is the compelling link that they needed him to be to make this work. I don't think that, well, I mean, I don't think Michael Cohen is a compelling link to make it work. I think that's probably pretty clear. I don't think that they ever had a strong case in the first place and i think that that's kind of the the situation with all of the cases we were talking before uh the show started about the just the overall situation as to how all of the legal stuff is panning out against trump none of it is going the way that any of the Democrats would have expected, I think. And I think if they look back now and they look back and they're like, these probably should not have happened.

We shouldn't have gone through with all of this legal, all of the lawfare, because it's not working out. And the results are generally making people sympathetic to Trump. One thing that was particularly revealing about Costello's testimony to Congress, when Cohen was on the stand, Costello was on Capitol Hill talking to the weaponization subcommittee in a hearing about lawfare and basically explaining that lawfare isn't always the court cases that end up on the docket. It's not always front page news. It's dangling a judgeship here or a pardon here in that smoke-filled room, right? All of those really

funny tropes about what politics actually is. And Costello and his fellow witnesses kind of pointed out like, yeah, to a certain extent, that's true. And so for me, right, I'm looking at this, regardless of how it pans out, because I think you and I agree, like, no one can actually read the tea leaves at this point on what damage this is doing to Trump and the damage it's actually doing to Biden's reputation. But like, one thing is abundantly clear, and that's the Democrats view the process as the punishment, right? And you can draw this, like, I heard this funny comment today that was like, what's the one thing Ed Snowden, Assange, and Trump have in common, not just a broad meta-narrative, but like a very concrete thing? It's like all three of them charged with the Espionage Act, right? Like, you think Snowden

and Julian Assange, like, oh, that tracks, you know, both smuggling state secrets or whatever, you know, of course, not actually. But Trump, with the documents case, charged with the Espionage Act. And so all that is to say, like, the state has been so clear in punishing those two men, Edward Snowden and Julian Assange, through a process, right? You see the Assange update earlier this week. It's the same exact way for Trump. And it's the same exact way for the attorneys that were in Trump's camp that were making,

I think, pretty common sense legal arguments about the 2020 election and about possible improprieties and where the president's role is in correcting that, right? And the president's authority to to interpret the constitution for himself yes the like legislators and the executive and the supreme court all have the authority to interpret the constitution how else are we going to make laws or policies in this country if all three branches of government don't do that um but you know all that is to say is that those lawyers involved in the Trump case, like the point was to punish the lawyers through the process, know that maybe they're not going to get convictions against them, and also to scare off any sort of legal help that Trump could get in the

Right, and it's to damage their reputations. Exactly. Because I think you're right, so much of this is about just like for Trump, the punishment being the process, meaning he's not on the campaign trail. And then we heard this over and over again. Well, Donald Trump, you know, Joe Biden's out campaigning for stuff and Donald Trump's in a courtroom because you guys put him there. And I think Trump did a pretty good job, or at least his campaign did, of being like, well, then we're going to use make New York the center of this whole thing. We're going to be at fire stations. We're going to hold rallies more locally to kind of combat that. But ultimately, I don't know that the effect of sort of demonizing anyone who is tangentially related

to Donald Trump, either directly or just through someone through a legal case or whatever, had the intended effect for voters. I think ultimately people are starting to feel fatigued. And I think a lot of people are more fearful of the government than Democrats really realize. And seeing the weight of having so many governments, state and federal, come after you is actually something I think that makes Donald Trump sympathetic to the voter because they couldn't handle it, right? They don't have the financial resources or the influence that Donald Trump has. If the government did this to you, you would be in a worse off position. And so they don't want this kind of thing

to be playing out over and over again. I mean, it's weird when you've got even Bill Maher being like, yeah, Biden's a cadaver. This is it. USA Today runs an op-ed from some guy being like, yeah, Biden's got to drop out. There's no reality in which any sane person thinks Biden's an actual viable candidate

so once again the only thing they have is orange man bad only at this point inflation is so apocalyptic if you are a new voter if you're a gen z voter and you were 18 in 2019 you have felt the sting of biden's economic policies more than most people. I'm 38. It's been four years and we've seen prices go up. I only get Taco Bell every so often, but yeah, those prices have gone up. It's kind of surprising. But if you're and so so I've seen economic changes, you know, I've been almost 40 years now. But if you're if you're 22, this is this is your adult life. You're 18. You're now looking for some part-time work. Maybe you had part-time work when you were young. But I mean, like now you're 18, you're an adult. You got more responsibility. You got to start paying the bills. And you see

a dollar cheeseburger. Four years later, that same cheeseburger on average is now somewhere around four bucks. So it's like your money is being cut in half every other year or so. I mean, so this is, yeah, your money halves every two years. Did you see that thing that McDonald's is rolling out the $5 menu, but it has to be subsidized by Coke because they just can't keep prices?

Well, it was subsidized by, like, so Coke is- So they're partnering with Coke and Coke is kicking in several million dollars so they can offer for one month month like $5 meals, right? Like you can get a McChicken or a burger or whatever else for $5. But actually like they can't actually offer to you for $5 because inflation is so high. Okay, so first of all, the market provides. Second of all, that's insane that the market has to do that.

That the average meal from McDonaldcdonald's is over five dollars now i mean obviously it's about the value of the currency and it's because of all the printing of money and i'm gonna do it again here we go like over a hundred trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities a trillion dollars every hundred days remember a trillion seconds ago was 30 000 years before christ like these numbers are absolutely beyond human comprehension like it's most people don't understand it and unless they do something about the unfunded liabilities unless they do something about medicare medicaid they're going to blow up the dollar it is absolutely it there is no question that it will happen i hope that on phil says unfunded liabilities is on the official timcast bingo

card now it could be you know it could be uh it's unfunded liabilities or uh not discretionary spending is the stuff that they can mandatory spending unfunded liabilities or mandatory spending same stuff okay let me make the bingo card that's what phil wants yeah we have this uh we have this image it's been going around. It's been going viral on X. And I posted it with a holy ish. I knew Bidenflation was bad, but I didn't realize how bad. And you can see McDonald's price increases. Now, they've chosen some select locations, but it's Chick-fil-A's website.

It's Taco Bell's website. And then they use the McDonald's app for the L.A. Figaro Street location for their sources. In 2019, a medium French fry was $1.79. Now it's $4.19. A McChicken was $1.29. Now it's $3.89. Yo, I got news for everybody, right?

So when I order a McChicken, which I don't these days, but when I did, it's because I did not have money. And if I'm going to eat anything like a McChicken, it's because I don't have money. But if I have $4, I certainly don't want to eat a McChicken. Now that it's $4, it's like they're trying to make it, that's crazy. A Big Mac was $3.99, now it's $7.49. 10 McNuggets was $4.49, $7.58.

A cheeseburger was $1. Now it's $3.49. 10 McNuggets was $4.49, $7.58. A cheeseburger was a buck. Now it's $3.15. Now a lot of people have said, well, yeah, but you're talking about LA, you know, LA's expensive or whatever. It's like, okay, how about the Taco Bell website? How about the Chick-fil-A website?

This is their website. Look at this. A beefy burrito, a buck 69. Now it's $3.69, two bucks on top in only a couple of years. So we're talking end of 19, so we're talking four and a half years. You're 18, and you have a part-time job. You're trying to go to college. You're buying your beefy five-layer burrito for lunch because you're broke.

And now you've not gotten a raise. Every four years, maybe what? You're making an extra buck an hour, a couple bucks an hour. But now it's two bucks more per burrito. Are you making that much more per hour? Has your income gone off enough to afford this? There's a great point in there that needs to be pinpointed on. When you have low interest rates like we've had for literally the past decade

interest rates at zero what that does is it means that people that have good credit that have money they get the money first and then it filters through the economy they get the money when there's no inflation they got the money five years ago four years ago three years ago before the inflation really hit and then they went and they bought assets they sometimes they spent the money five years ago, four years ago, three years ago, before the inflation really hit. And then they went and they bought assets. They sometimes they spent the money, blah, blah, blah. But as the money filters into the economy and then the inflation comes because what inflation is, is too much money chasing after too few products or too many services, too few services.

Once the money hits to gets to the average person, that's when the prices rise. So you guys have to pay more money for the prices, but your, your, your, your employer, your paycheck that hasn't gone up yet because the, the actual increase in, uh, the decrease in the dollar amount hasn't, hasn't gotten to you yet. So your money, you don't get more money yet. You just have to sit there with less valuable dollars so the people that actually have money your your banks and and wealthy people they get the money when it's cheap and they take the loans out when it's cheap and then it again ends up getting caught the the cost gets put onto the poor people so that's why it's it's such a

massive screwing for the average person when you print money and just give it away. Because it goes to the people that don't need it first. And then by the time money actually starts affecting the money supply and inflation happens, the average person is screwed. Yeah. When you're working down the socioeconomic ladder, that excess capital in the American economy is getting caught up by wealthy people and not put into consumables, right? So you end up with increased prices as soon as that capital actually hits the consumables.

Also, wages are just stickier, right? This is human interactions. This is bosses and employees. Boss doesn't wanna give you a raise, employees wanna raise. And as the costs for the boss go up, the last thing the boss wants to do is give the employees a raise. Exactly. Because their margins are getting tighter.

So your products increase in price faster than the wages can. And one thing that I find is really disgusting from places like the Wall Street Journal editorial board or things like that is that, well, you know, if you actually went to college- I hate them so much. When you actually, if you went to college in the late Trump years to early Biden years, you're a debtor. And so be thankful that you took out

those massive student loans while your interest rates were low, because technically it's not worth as much as it used to i mean yeah your debt's devalued your debt's true value yeah it's true it is true but but like your debt's devalued it's not a great defense you know like i don't think anyone's gonna find this super appealing exactly the issue is the issue is stagflation yeah if wages were going up then it would matter exactly that that's right. So like your ability to pay back that debt is based on what? Your wages, yeah.

Like your wages and your ability to earn a living and provide for your family and then pay that debt back, right? Yeah, sure, it might be good. It might devalue your debt. But at the same time, your entire lifestyle is just getting absolutely destroyed. The only people that made out in that is people that got like a low interest home loan right before the the inflation and stuff went if you got like if you got like a three percent mortgage in like 16 17 18 19 then you're sitting pretty everybody else got the big old shaft you know yeah i saw a lot of videos of people being

like we thought this was our starter home, but now it's our forever home because our interest rate is so low. You know, I think higher education is a really interesting issue. And I think that the Biden administration is really going to struggle to deal with it during the campaign.

You know, we talk about this a lot, or I bring it up a lot, like Biden keeps saying, oh, I've forgiven all these student loans but tons are tied up in court that's inflationary and also uh he hasn't stopped issuing federal student loans and in fact so there are tons of I was just reading this report about how many students are thinking that they're not going to enroll in college because the FAFSA roll the the free application uh for federal student loans got so messed up the fact that there were

so many students who don't know what what kind of aid they're being offered or they had to get secondary letters that were like, actually, we offered you an incorrect amount. I mean, the very small area that Biden thought that he would really just like carry and beat Trump, you know, people interested in going to college and who are willing to take out these loans, they haven't done anyone any favors. And it continues to be this message to, I think, young Americans that, you know, you are trying very hard to establish yourselves and potentially start on a strong financial foot. And no matter which way you turn, you cannot do that right now. And I just don't think that brings voters to the polls.

The other incentive that the state and college, you know, universities of higher, or institutions of higher education, colleges, universities, what they actually end up subsidizing is more immigration. Because at the end of the day, like who's actually making sure that the research universities can continue what they do? It's like foreigners. Well, it could be Americans, but they allow you to bring in you think of like the archetypical like rich saudi prince who finds his way to like harvard right

like that guy's paying an arm and a leg to go to harvard meanwhile um you know you have all sorts of discounts all sorts of of scholarships all sorts of um you know students not actually paying full price for tuition and the institution basically contracting with the government to get that funding over a longer period of time. And then if the state decides to forgive the loans of the students and continue to pay it out over time, it only incentivizes more and more foreign students coming into our universities and paying an arm and a leg,

which like ultimately, like I saw it on my college campus, like it crowds out a lot of people from a public university system where I grew up in the state of California when like technically their parents have been paying for that, you know, institution of education their entire lives through California taxes. And now they don't have access to it because Because, sorry, it's financially infeasible for them to actually have Californians go to a Californian public school. Imagine what Social Security is going to be like. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That'll be fun. It's a train wreck. It's going to be a massive mess. And this is why, it's one of the reasons why they're flooding the country with non-citizens.

They are desperate to create a labor force that will support the elderly who don't have families and rely on social security. I mean, yeah, that I think that I think there's truth to that. But I think that if that's their plan, it's a very, very bad, bad plan. That's not going to it's too little too late. It's burning the country down to save the country that's on fire. It's horrible. It's a terrible, terrible terrible terrible idea they admitted that in like a davos panel right is that what you're talking about yeah i'm just being generally that they need a labor force because you've got older people who don't have families you've got older people who no longer rely on families and the children at all and they're getting social security when social security stops it's not it doesn't matter how much money you print they they could just print the money and say, we will pull the debt.

And then there's not enough young people producing resources for the elderly. So that means the system stops instantly overnight. There's a lot of people that are currently banking on like AI and automation robots. And they're saying, or they're, even if they aren't saying it, they're planning on or behaving as if they're planning on super productivity because of automation, because of robots, because of AI and stuff,

that the answer to the production problems is automation. So our answers are immigration. So people who are not encouraging native people to have children or technology. Like this is a bleak future here. I don't like this at all. Oops, we've sterilized you. Oh, as it turns out,

we told you to hate having a family and then we brought in people that weren't a part of our culture and they occupy our land and also maybe technology assault. It's like, this is doomsday scenario. My analysis is not an endorsement. I'm just saying. No, I don't think it is. I'm just, I am just saying. But like that, I mean, that's what it is. Theday scenario my analysis not is not an endorsement i'm just no i don't think it is i'm just i am just saying like that i mean that's what it is

that the the argument they've made is you know bringing people in because the there are jobs that the the people that live there currently live here don't want to do or whatever and then they're oh well you know we don't have enough people being born so we're we have to have people come into the u.s it's funny how immigration is their answer for everything i mean it really is you know it's an it's almost like it's on purpose. So I don't want to derail or go down the rabbit hole a little too far, but like, we talked about this underclass or we talked about, you know, tech services, AI filling the gap. Like, what do you think that looks like, right, in a country that has decided it's no longer going to reproduce and that

it's just going to rely on this permanent underclass of migrants? It just ceases to exist. Yeah. It's like the movie Elysium. You will have— That's a great flick. You will have—it's a little on the nose, I guess. The people—the Earth is overcrowded, and everyone speaks Spanish, and the rich people live in a floating space station, and they all speak French.

And they have machines that can cure any disease, but they've simply decided not to give it to people for no reason. Like, yeah, that's not the reality, but that's the leftist worldview is they have the cure for all diseases. They just simply don't want you to have it. It's like, okay, yeah, that's not the case. It's certainly the case to a certain degree that big pharma has an incentive on treating

symptoms and not diseases. But in this movie, they literally had machines that cured cancer and they're like, but we won't let you use it for no reason. And then the liberators come invade the space, steal everything, reprogram it and strip them of their wealth and access, and then send all of these med booths down to earth so that everyone can be cured of their diseases. And then what they don't show you is Elysium 2 and everyone's dead. So basically what happens is if the United States continues to function this way with fewer and fewer people of merit and production and who hold the values which made the country what it is, you will end

up with an enclave, a small group of people who maintain the traditional values of the United States, believe in meritocracy, are wealthy and successful, and they start building barriers around themselves as they're surrounded by more and more people who do not have the merit and the capability to build a nation. And then finally, after a certain amount of time, the dam breaks. The 92% of lower merit individuals who are not part of the culture and don't have the same education destroy what little wealth and access there was. And then you'll end up in a country where you've got mass rapes and farmers being killed

and things like this and displaced. Yeah. And weird, weird hokey views about AIDS being a curse and things like that. And none of this takes into account what happens to, what the rest of the world does

or what other near peer powers do without the United States having the economic powerhouse behind it that it has had historically. Because the United States having the economic powerhouse behind it that it has had historically. Because the United States, like the idea that China doesn't do anything or the idea that Russia doesn't do anything in response to the United States having an economic crisis, that's something that I think people don't take into account when they talk about repercussions of like the dollar crashing or whatever kind of big civil strife or whatever issue you want to you want to use your favorite doomsday scenario in the US.

People talk about that kind of stuff and they always leave out what the rest of the world does. The United States is such a it's such it's so important in the world that everything that happens to the United States actually happens to the whole world. So you don't get things that just happen to the United States. They happen to the world. So if the United States stops being like the global hegemon for whether you think it's good or bad, if it does, that means there are going to be massive reverberations throughout every country on earth, and it's going to change the way that the world behaves. And we have no idea what that means. Do you have any predictions on the economic ripple effect there? I mean, something that I keep an eye on frequently is just how badly we are treating the global south

in terms of like the developing economies of the global south right like we have decided that we are going to sanction anyone who we decide to up the wazoo sanctions don't really work anyway it doesn't actually lead sanctions are an act of war exactly and it doesn't actually lead to the behavior changes that we want to see and so we just keep doing it and we and we decide uh we decide that uh we're going to incentivize completely parallel political and financial institutions and systems that are dominated by what country? Of course, China. So, I mean, I don't have any predictions on what that actually means long term for the United States. I think there was more of an expectation.

I thought China would do better post-COVID than it has. Maybe it's because of their commitment to COVID zero. But I- Economically, you mean? Yeah, yeah. I think they would, I thought they were going to rebound quicker than that. And I've had some scholars tell me that,

you know, China isn't doing as well as you think it is, but nevertheless, like don't empower them when they're showing demographic decline them when they're showing demographic decline, when they're showing economic slowdown by basically incentivizing the entire global South to partner with China, whether it's the Belt and Road Initiative or other types of financial arrangements to skirt around Western sanctions. I imagine any time China can export young men to work, like if they can send them to other countries to work, that's a good thing for china because they have so many young men that because of the one child policy they were so there's the

they have an excess of young men which is one of the things that i've heard people that that you know people that are experts on on uh international conflict and stuff one of the things they say is if you've got too many young men you're headed to war because one of the things historically that's that's taking care of young men when there aren't women is send them off to war. Because if you don't do something with your young men and they don't have families, they might overthrow the country. Like they might just cause a riot. They might tear your whole country down. This was the Sparta problem.

Aristotle talks about this in the politics where Sparta knew how to wage war. They had policies enacted to favor male childbirth. And then when they finally got to a position where they could make peace, they had no idea how to wage war. They had policies enacted to favor male childbirth. And then when they finally got to a position where they could make peace, they had no idea how to do it. So what do you think is going to happen to the U.S. in the next, you know, year? What do you think is the biggest concern for people or for American politicians right now? Is it geopolitical or is it domestic issues? I think it's geopolitical just simply because I think the Republican Party demonstrated with the $95 billion supplemental that they actually care about wars in the Middle East and in Eastern Europe more than they care about the border. Yeah.

So if the Republican Party and the establishment is going to be so singularly focused on these two issues, then I, you know, it's a powder keg ready to explode. I wish I could say like immigration will be the issue that like galvanizes and draws the most attention. And then we can actually solve the issue. But I, you know, just the prospect of World War III, it just feels like he's lurking around every corner. I feel like it would have been the big issue, like immigration would have been the big issue had it not been for October 7th. I feel like last year and last summer, this time, everybody was so very focused on the border. Everyone was so focused on what was going on.

I think immigration is still a big issue, even though we had October 7th. Yeah, it's still one of the biggest issues among voters. And Israel doesn't even rank in the top 10. Right. Well, let's let's jump to the story from Christopher Ruffo has this Harvard Harris Caps poll. The pro-Hamas faction is a disaster for the left. The campus protesters, Palestinian

Authority, Antifa, and Hamas are four out of the five least popular institutions in a recent Harvard Harris poll. Take a look at this. Favorability of institutions. I love that Antifa is considered an institution institution no no it's just an ideology they told literally terror like they're considered terrorists antifa is below

china the palestinian authority is above china i love this take a look at this the u.s military very favorable i mean you're talking 83% favorability with 42% very favorable. Very few people are upset with the U.S. military. Police. Look at this one. 75% favorability. Only 20% unfavorable. The FBI actually enjoys 56% favorability.

That's actually quite amazing. But you go down. Ukraine and Israel, very favorable. U.S. Supreme Court, DOJ. Even Fox News. Yeah, like Fox News. Wow. actually uh quite amazing but you go down ukraine and israel very favorable u.s supreme court doj even fox news yeah like fox it is wow there's a lot of people on twitter that think that like israel is like really unpopular and that like oh the israel is going to be the thing that's going to met you know gonna we're going to stop supporting israel the u.s is going to blah blah you're wrong like whether you can you may feel that way and you're completely justified in having your opinion,

but it is not unpopular. The US still generally looks at Israel and says, they're allies and we should support them. Look at MSNBC, this one's hilarious. That's awesome. MSNBC, deeply unfavorable, way down the bottom. MAGA Republicans are above MSNBC. That's all you need to know.

Take that, Rachel Maddow. Campus protesters are just above the Palestinian Authority in terms of unfavorability than China, Antifa, and Hamas. I don't know how Joe Biden is able to recover from this. The Democratic Party is divided.

The general population despises Hamas, Antifa, and China. The campus protesters are deeply despised and Joe Biden's trying to court them. He's going to colleges and giving these speeches. He's trying to win them over. He is basically telling the majority,

I don't care about you. I care about this fringe minority of weirdos. And even after a decade, or well, not a decade, but like, you know, four or five years of ACAB, the police still generally have a favorable opinion by the- Because it's all fake. Yeah, it really is. It's all internet stuff. Like, Twitter's not real life as much as, you know, it's fun.

Older people who are not on social media and are still watching cable news, are a part of these polls and they vote. But I'm willing to bet when your average 35-year-old is 70, these polls are going to look nuts. The older generation right now that is not on social media, so we're talking Gen Xers who are not as active on social media as millennials and then Gen Z, still active though. Boomers who are not nearly as active.

And if they are, they're on Facebook pages where they're sharing, you know, these silly memes where like a pig has wings and it's like he goes like, they're just silly things. There's like, I see, I see weird Facebook memes that they get shared by a lot of boomers where it's like Jesus holding a pig and it's just like, no, but for real. Boomers have their own memes. They do. And it's just like in all caps saying, you know, pray and pray and he will save.

And like, they're really, like they use all caps a lot. When the older generations that don't use the internet as much are gone, you will see the police numbers change. So if you're looking at silent generation, boomers, Gen X,

millennials, Gen Z, and you ask them about police. Yeah. You're going to get 75% favorability, silent generation and boomers pass on. And then you've got Gen X, millennials,

Gen Z, Gen Alpha. And what, I don't even know what's after alpha, but that's you. You then ask them, millennials are split probably 50-50. I bet if you look at the crosstabs on this and look at age brackets, how did 18 to 29-year-olds talk on police? I bet it's going to be like 60-40 or 50-50.

This means when the older crowd is gone, the weight changes, and it will more reflect what you see on social media. Yeah, I kind of assumed one of and I could be totally off on this, but one of the reasons that military and police are high, even though there are lots of anti-war people, people who are skeptical of law enforcement, the state, things like that, was because people are more likely to know someone who served in the military or is a law enforcement officer. So there's a level of like, well, I don't like that group, but the guy that I know is pretty good. There's sort

of a level of forgiveness that other things don't have. But police recruitment, from what I know nationally, is very low. And so as generations grow up, there are fewer people. I mean, military recruitment is extremely low. They miss their targets all the time. So we're going to have fewer of that positive association on a personal level that maybe people use to balance out bigger issues. This is what I think people understand, right? They see polls like this. They see economic numbers and they're like, the internet is not real life.

Like Twitter is not real life or X. Now it's officially X.com. And what they don't understand is that it's technically true in that it is not the universal perspective in this country is not the universal perspective in this country or on the planet. And it is because different generations consume media in different ways. But when you go on X and you see that there is a 50, like there's no way Hassan Piker is ever going to say, yay, go cops. Well, unless of course they're arresting like Sam Hyde or something, right? I mean, I literally like the moment the cops go after the enemies, the left, they cheer for it.

But Hassan's never going to go on his show to however many viewers he still has. I don't know. He used to have like 40K. There's never a circumstance where he's going to be like, hey, look, I think just generally speaking, cops are very good, and I heavily favor them 75% of the time. Never going to happen. His audience would be in revolt. We then go, ah, but the internet's not real life. Only because his audience is comprised of like 24-year-olds,

22. Well, actually, I think they were like 18 to 22. And that's many of the left. They're young. On a show like this, majority of the people who are watching are like, I think it's 33. And then we have a recent uptick among younger 18 to 24. I think Gen Z getting the shaft is really starting to light a fire into them. And then we do have a lot of people who watch who are, you know, who are older for sure. But the majority skews towards the 30s. So when you're looking at the comments and opinions on this show, there's a lot of people being like, ah, Tim has no idea what he's talking about because he's not talking about what I see. There's a lot of people who like to post online and they say things like actually i saw this on um i think it was on gutfeld the other day uh bill maher was on gutfeld it was kind of it was

pretty amazing he's trying to sell a book so he's going everywhere yeah and i think it was um what's her name perino i can't remember dana perino and uh she was saying i i love this talking point because it's it's it's just so naive and ignorant. But she's like, you know, everybody thinks that there's this this big divide, but you really you go outside and you see it's not really there. It's you know, people are getting along. And it's like, ma'am, you live in a neighborhood where everybody lives in a similar standard in a similar way. So if you're in the suburbs of Chicago and St. Charles and you go outside, you're like, hey, nobody's fighting. It looks like all that stuff on TV and it's not real because I go to my grocery store and nobody seems to be upset. Yes, because you live in a block that is, for the most part,

more politically homogenous. But if you I tell you, you leave that place and go to Portland, you're going to be like, did I just enter a war zone in a completely different world? That's the remarkable thing that people think. I could walk outside my house and all of a sudden everyone's getting along. It's like, well, yeah, you live in a place that has common political views, but you online in, say, like New Jersey's first district, you're arguing with someone in Portland. So you think you're a moderate. You walk outside and you're like, I see Democrats and Republicans getting along because you're in a moderate district. And then you go on, you go on social media and some fringe far leftists is screaming their lungs out. And you're like, ah, that's not real life because

I go outside. Then you go to Portland, you take a trip there and you're like, this is where these people live. This is how they look at San Francisco. It really is just very, very different in this country. And people don't understand that we used to consume media on a local basis. Even when you turned on your news, you were getting your local news station. Now people turn the news and it's all national level news. You go on Twitter, it's all national level. People don't realize your local community is not the same as every other community.

And so they think everything's fine once you go outside. People don't realize your local community is not the same as every other community. And so they think everything's fine once you go outside. Then they go on Twitter and they're like, ah, you people don't understand. But I tell you, when the older generation who consumes media at the local level is as soon as they age out, pass on, it is going to be, man, I tell you this, younger people are not watching local news. They don't know who their city council people are. They don't know who their state reps are, their state senators. There is going to be abject corruption at the state level because no one pays attention to local news anymore. It is only the older generation that turns on local news to get their news

because your local news station is going to report on Joe Biden. It's going to report on Boeing. It's going to report on these big stories. And that's going to tell you about I love this. I was in New York watching New York one or whatever. And they're like a water main break over on Third Avenue. And it's like, you're not going to get that news on CNN. Why would they talk about a local pipe break? It doesn't make any sense. But you'll get it on your local news. Young people don't consume news this way. And so it's going to be really interesting how this country becomes nationalized because of this. I have a quick question for you.

At the beginning, you started talking about how, like, the police numbers as the older generations die off and you start to see more digitally native generations do these polls. The police numbers are going to drop. One of the interesting things about this new New York Times Sienna poll that came out showed that Biden was like three points ahead of Trump

with boomers, like 65 and over. It just stopped. The computer just stopped working. Yeah, we... Let's see if... I clicked start streaming again. We have a light delay. Let's see if this picks back up. Everyone's like stopped working. Yeah, we... Let's see if... I clicked start streaming again. We have a light delay.

Let's see if this picks back up. Everyone's like, bye. There you go. Like, so I think what we're seeing with the concurrence... So we are back. All right, everybody, if you're listening to the sound of my voice... Oh, yeah. I think we're being DDoSed.

Yeah, that might be it. Yeah, I think we're getting attacked for the nature of the story. So I'll say a few things. Oh, I hope that recording got grabbed or whatever. Yeah, it should be good. So for those that are listening, you probably have noticed something seems off about the stream today. And I think it's fairly obvious considering the title and the subject matter that we're engaging in. I can tell you that on the back end, everything looks normal.

On the front end, things look weird, and it's like we may be getting a denial of service attack of some sort. Like the whole machine just fritzed and then shut off. Plus, we're seeing YouTube and stuff. So considering the title of this episode and the news that broke. I don't know what to tell you, man. We're talking about this, the nature of politics these days. And, you know, I'll say this, my friends, the stabilizing force that is the older generation cannot last forever. The younger generations are much more radicalized. Gen Z is hyperpolarized,

especially between men and women. Millennials are polarized. As you get into the older generations, polarization is less and less. When you look at favorability and when you look at opinions on economics and policy, older generations tend to be overlapping and aligned. Why? Well, baby boomers, for instance, in their late 20s and 30s in the 90s. What's up? Is it we're going? Baby boomers in the in the 90s. If you look at political affiliation in the 90s, overlaps almost completely. Very, very little difference. In fact, my parents, like my dad was a conservative. My mom was liberal, but they still basically agree on most things and disagreed on a few issues that didn't really matter all that much.

When you get older, it starts to become more confusing, like, wow, really? You'd like a conservative dad and a liberal mom. And it's like, yeah, but the views of this country were almost unified. There were few issues where people were in disagreement on like, you know, abortion, for instance. Now the country is hyperpolarized. The older generation, they're going to pass on. When we're when when when Gen X is in their 60s, you're going to have boomers.

They're going to be in retirement homes and they're not going to be very active in much. Then you're going to have millennials who are going to be the heads of industry and the CEOs, and they are going to have hyperpolarized views that I just think the direction this country is headed in is, I don't know, I'd say worrisome. Is the Streamdex not working? It's definitely not pulling up for me, so I can't punch different scenes. When you press it, nothing happens? Yeah. It's not even giving me errors.

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but it looks like it's still running I can't but but like there's a delay so I don't know if it at any point it's gonna just shut down well I'm not gonna touch this and we'll just keep the show going so uh you can't the stream deck's not working uh not right now should we all just rotate into your seat when we have something to say one big musical chairs yeah he's gonna have to do it he's gonna he's gonna do it manually yo guys it's this is this is wild uh our our Our stream deck has crashed.

Our analytics are on the fritz. This is back end and internal. And OBS just says it's crashed again, but it's still streaming. And I bet if we click the accept, it'll just shut the whole thing down. I think so. Yeah, this has never happened before. Never happened before, considering the headline. So anyway, I mean, we made it through half the show before we started getting nuked. So it is what it is.

I don't know. So I'm going to move this down here. Your stream has ended, it says. And then we'll just let Serge click the mouse instead of using our stream deck. All this technology. I mean, it's good that you guys have a backup using our stream deck. All this technology. I mean, it's good that you guys have a backup here to another way to make this work. You can't really plan for this stuff, right? You don't really know what's going to break.

I don't think it's breaking. Not break, but like what's vulnerable to this kind of situation. Yeah, this is what is going on. Hold on a second. Yo. Oh, I see. I see. I don't know. Whatever. Oh, I see. I see. I don't know.

Whatever. My point is this. Stuff like this. Yo, guys. As we get closer to November, don't be surprised. The instability is growing. The headline of the show is literally the DOJ authorized lethal force against the former president. Now, they put out a statement during this show saying this is standard protocol.

And I'm like, in what world do you just blanket standard protocol a raid on a president that's never been done before? Wouldn't there be some kind of special protocol and assessment for the fact that you're raiding a former president never before? Has something like this happened? No, they're just like, eh, you know, bring your guns and don't wear uniforms. Absolutely insane. This was one of the lines that was trotted out against the Trump administration for protecting the federal building in Portland, too. That these officers were unmarked and therefore throwing all these peaceful protesters in jail. No, but it's okay when Biden does it.

When Biden does it, totally reasonable. Right. No, you know, those police officers were unmarked because they were in fear of their lives from Antifa protesters. And then, you know, you have an incredibly cooperative team over in Mar-a-Lago cooperating with the National Archives, supposedly cooperating with the DOJ. And then Biden decides, oh, I'm going to roll the, you know, the sixth fleet right up to Mar-a-Lago's door and no one's going to have any sort of identification.

Like how much of this do you think was just sort of an ill thought out PR stunt on behalf of the Biden administration? Because there is a possibility he didn't really know what was going on, Merrick Garland, et cetera. But it reminds me of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, right? He decided like, oh, we have to be out by September 11th for sort of a symbolic victory. And it just got completely botched. It costs 13 service members their lives. I mean, I think the Biden administration sets itself weird goals to try and tout them as

victories. And they almost always end up backfiring. Yeah, I don't know. Again, I don't know enough about like the internal processes on how this would work on a departmental level or throughout the executive branch to say conclusively that it was a failed PR stunt or anything like that. this doddering, you know, gerontocratic regime that has never been held accountable. And so they just, like, these are the actions of people who feel like they'll never be held accountable for anything, and that basically they have the license to do whatever they want, right? Like, they have the license to prosecute Trump wherever they want. They have the license to pour whatever money and whatever tech money and whatever, you know, grant money into turning

out elections for their chosen candidates. They have, you know, the capacity to fight whatever war they want. You know, American people's opinion be damned or darned. I don't know. Let's let's look at that. But yeah, we'll jump to this next story. We have a tweet from Joe Biden himself. No, we have this post.

Joe Biden says Donald Trump posted an ad echoing the language of Nazi Germany. Oh, he only cares about holding on to power. I care about you, he says. Yeah, OK, sure. Here's the video. What's next for America? This on his official account. Wow.

A unified Reich. That's Hitler's language. That's not America's. He cares about holding on to power. I care about you. That was a good joke there, Joe. So the real story is that it's an American newspaper from World War I not supporting or proposing any kind of creation. It's literally just an old school newspaper stock image that has a news report from World War One. That's it.

And so someone made it. It wasn't Trump. Apparently, one of Trump's accounts retweeted it. And then they saw that in the article, it referenced the beginnings of Nazi Germany after World War I or something. And then Joe Biden is now trying to act like Trump is calling for a unified Reich or whatever. I'm shocked that they actually put that out from the official. That Trump did?

No. Well, no. Oh, that Biden. Yeah. I can't believe they got him to do this skit where he pretends to be shocked for a camera angle. And notice, what does he say? Is this on an official account?

That way they can't get sued for defamation because it was some other account that did it. Because they made him stand in a perfectly lit spot and say, hey, say this line and we're going to do this. Like they're pretending like this is his genuine reaction. That's how inauthentic the Biden campaign is. Look at this. This is amazing.

And wokeness has the debunking. Trump media. Trump echoes Hitler predicting a unified Reich. That's the thing. That's the thing that blows my mind is like they're actually saying this as if he said that. Because they're trusting you're going to only read the headline. Yeah, but to me this – and I mean, yes, I totally understand that. That's completely true.

I understand what you're saying. But like it's just – this is – and not that there should be anything beyond the pale but it's just so surprising that something so blatantly blatantly dishonest is actually coming out now from from and i i know i shouldn't feel surprised but just it's just so comical that that it's it's so comically dishonest i guess is part of the reason why i it just blows my mind and and i probably should i'm not surprised i mean the whole launch of joe biden's first campaign was the the very fine people hoax the very fine people hoax i know that was like bs and maybe i shouldn't be so surprised about this because of that. But I feel like the very fine people hoax,

even that was a little more believable because you could at least say, oh, they only heard the bit that he said that, right? The only thing they presented was that little piece that wasn't, you know, getting something from World War I, a newspaper from World War I, and putting it as if this is some kind of ad from today. That's the thing. from world war one and putting it as if this is some kind of ad from today that's abc news said trump post social media videos seemingly suggesting his victor victor will bring unified wreck that's fake news that is a lie that's just absolutely not true it doesn't say that it's just

it's just a stock image look at this and what says the image it's a newspaper vintage history headlines promo and it says something um what does it say universal strength significantly increases uh something what does that say something driven at the creation of a unified reich it's an old news story on a historical newspaper and uh if it was actually from the end of world war one nazi germany didn't come right after world war one we're talking about the weimar republic it's hilarious like reich just means kingdom or realm even if it was an official account and it's from like a 1919 newspaper or whatever i'm not saying everything was perfect in germany 1919 but like we're not talking about

this is you know the newspaper a photo of a newspaper that says Hitler comes to power, proposes unified right. That's like not at all what what we're talking about here. It's I mean, it's just dishonest and disingenuous in so many levels. Yeah, understand. And I mean, but this is what the media does. It's do you think it makes the Biden campaign look desperate? Well, of course. But the issue is these news headlines are going to make it to older

people younger this is this is what changes everything's going to change man you watch msnbc you live in wally world dude you live in crackpot nightmare bubblegum nonsense and it's crazy because msnbc wasn't always like that but they've become like that. CNN is trying to pull itself out and they're struggling to do so. Younger people are getting their news and information from social media. The problem is I see I see a dark future, my friends. We're looking at with the rise of TikTok, YouTube shorts taking over and YouTube shorts really are displacing a lot. And Instagram people are no longer consuming in-depth conversations. Now, now hold on. For a while, they weren't in the first place.

The podcast era comes for a good 10 years, but it seems like we may be on the way out from there. Joe, I mean, Joe Rogan comes in, his podcast takes off and people really start enjoying listening to long form shows where you you get longer conversations breaking issues down, and people start to understand them. YouTube is a great vehicle for this, and a lot of people succeeded by creating these long-form videos, but YouTube is deprioritizing all of this. And now what they're prioritizing is shorts. TikTok is creating an algorithm where there's zero substance and maximum dopamine. If young people go this route, no, wow. I mean, I assume that's what the deep state is hoping and praying for, that the corporate

press, the cable TV is dead. And so they need to make sure things like this can't be substantive. So they want to make sure that you go to work, come home, look at the TikTok and swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe. And you never have any idea what's really going on. They control the algorithm. They make sure you'll never see information that defies their worldview and everyone will chase after whatever nonsense. If they, and they are, deprioritize news content to a great degree. So's what they've been doing. And they put the likes of Mr. Beast and things like that on the front page.

They are basically telling everybody who wants to make content, you got to be like Mr. Beast. Don't you dare talk about this stuff. And then they do what's called the tiny room shadow ban. And that's basically what they've been doing to us for a long time, of course. And it's only because people share the show

and really enjoy it, they can't just shut us down outright. But the tiny room shadow ban is basically make sure no new members, anybody who goes to YouTube for the first time will never see Tim cast IRO. Only the people who already know it exists and have subscribed. We'll see it unless they share it with other people and interact with it. So what they want to do is they create pressure against, you know, as this show, you know, gets older, other and some people might be like,

well, you know, it's not really my cup of tea anymore. I watch something else. We are not seeing the response from, you know, YouTube's algorithm typically promoting a show like this. So I'll tell you, I know exactly why YouTube nuked our two biggest episodes. They don't like that we are defying their shadow ban. We put up an ad on YouTube, which some of you may have seen. Real simple. It's just me being like, for the best show, come watch Tim Kess IRL, Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. Why? That breaks the tiny room shadow ban,

intentionally using marketing to go outside of the bubble they're trying to lock us into. The first ad that I put up showed the top episodes of Tim cast IRL. They denied that I talked about some of the show. They denied the ads and said they were electioneering lie. What? Come watch our news show. That's not election stuff. Are you running for office? Absolute lie. And so I reach out to customer service and they say, this is strange. We don't see anything related to elections in this video. We're going to escalate this and figure out what's going on. And I said, well, hold on. If you have the ability to just activate the advertisement, if you're telling me right now there's no election stuff in it and that's true, turn it on. And we can't.

Like they physically can, but they're not going to. We're going to escalate this. So then I get an email like a few days later and they're like, hey, we're the supervisor. We reviewed this. You are correct. Nothing in this is related to elections. So your ad has been activated. The next day I get a call. I get an email from Google saying we've deleted these two episodes, which were two of three that appeared in the advertisement that I made. And they were like, for no reason, they made up some fake BS reasons. They claimed that we were promoting QAnon. And I said, is that a joke? We mock QAnon. We've never promoted this. And they're like, we don't care. They made it some other BS reason

for taking down the other episode and said, if it happens again, you're getting, you get, you get shut down, have a nice day. And I went off on them. So that's, so I know why they're pissed. And so I said, okay. So I made an ad with nothing in it, literally just me sitting in the chair, nothing else. And instantly approved. Now we're specifically targeting through the ad outside of the news space and into cultural spaces. And it is working. And I think they are rightly pissed off about it okay so so two questions first off what two episodes were they and can people still listen like can i go listen to them anywhere right they're probably up on itunes right yeah they're still there uh so it

was the joe rogan alex jones michael malice uh who else was that was drew hernandez on that one hernandez was there ian luke me uh, Blair White. Did I say Blair White? Yeah. Was that everybody? That was a wild show. That's the malice in the palace. That's crazy. It was in the mobile studio in Austin. It was in the mobile studio in Austin with Rogan and Jones. And then they took down the, I believe it was the Michael Malice, Alex Jones episode.

And they took it down for a vague reason they wouldn't really explain to me. And I'm like, this makes no sense.'t really explain to me and i'm like this makes no sense that's great and then they were like i'm like these are three years old it happened right after we tried running the ad so you know here's what i think they don't mind that the episode exists on youtube because it exists within the confines of the tiny room shadow band they've created it only appears i mean we get people saying all the time, like, hey, I watch the show every day and it's a struggle to find it. We often get messages from people saying that it's not even on our YouTube channel. We go live and they know the show every day, 8 p.m. and they watch and they'll go to YouTube, Timcast, IRL, not there. And they're

like, I don't even know how to find the link because it's not there. So it's like, I should probably be tweeting out the link, which I never do. And so we hear that a lot. So I make an ad taking, showing those episodes outside of the tiny room shadow ban and instantly they're nuked. And I'm like, uh-huh. They, YouTube, they don't like what we got going on here. For the longest time, this show was shadow banned from Google.

YouTube videos from Tim Kess and Tim Kess.iro did not appear on Google search. Yeah. of the history of American media, because I don't think that you can become a part of it successfully without understanding some of the history there. And one of the things that I say to them is, you know, we live in a media environment that seems decentralized because you have shows like this one, you have Joe Rogan, you have longer form conversations, but actually it is one of the most centralized media environments that has ever existed in this country when you combine the fact that nearly every major cable news network is owned by one of five corporations like just a handful like for every media executive in the country they oversee an audience of about a million people so about the size of the city of san francisco which is mind-boggling you think like oh well like that doesn't account for social media and it doesn't account for YouTube and it doesn't account for all these other platforms.

But at the end of the day, the social media tech sensors are like basically replacing the old corporate journalism sensors. And like one of the questions that I have constantly, especially like working for a, you know, plucky, relatively small conservative outlet is like how to empower the decentralizing forces, like how to empower shows like Timcast, right? Like how do you think the right should go about doing that? Or just people with decent, people with, you know, just believe that the media apparatus is corrupt and want to see see a decent lively public square

again i think we're winning so um there's a lot going on in the cultural space in the media space uh elon musk buying x massive and you know what i think is really funny a lot of people are shocked they're like my viewership is down what is happening to my account? Elon's cleaning up the bots. Let me let me let me I'll pull this up on my phone and give a shout out to Josie, the redheaded libertarian. She hosts a show here for for Timcast. It's on her spaces on X. And then we have it for members on on Timcast dot com.

So if you'd like to watch Josie become a member at Timcast dot com and you can watch her special. It's only for members to watch the actual live and then she does a space on X. But she had this post and I want to I want to break it down. Let's see if I can find. Oh, this is the wrong account. Whoops. I'm looking at the wrong Josie.

Let me pull this one up. Oh, so annoying. It's not coming up. I can't find it. Okay, you're being throttled. There you go. Wait. I'm getting there.

There we go. Found it. So she had this post on X talking about how her account is being throttled or something like that. And I want to find it so I can cite it properly. And I can't find this. Where is this thing? She posted a graph showing her metrics on X and the decline that she was seeing. Was it? I'm pretty sure it was Josie. Where's the post? Where's the post you

made, Josie? I can't find it. Okay, I can't find it anyway. So we'll just, I'll tell you what's going on. There was this thing that happened when Elon Musk announced that he was buying X. And then, you know, Vijay Agade was crying or whatever. We found out that she was having regular meetings with the government. What did we notice? Some, for some reason, all of a sudden, right wing aligned accounts saw massive growth in audience size and left wing accounts started dropping dramatically. And everyone's like, whoa, what is this? Some speculated that it was the thumb on the scales of big tech. They were trying to make sure that accounts that were right wing would not gain followers and accounts that were left wing would. Then when Elon announced that he's buying the platform,

they go shred all the papers, clear everything out, make some changes to try and cover things up. And those changes instantly unthrottle all the right wing accounts. I'll tell you what I think. I could be wrong. I don't know. I'm just speculating. Why is that right now? So many people on Twitter are saying my viewership is down.

My engagement is down. It's not worth it. I'm willing to bet that a lot of the engagement people were experiencing was fake and probably run by government entities intentionally for the purpose of manipulating public opinion. In the early 2010s, Barrett Brown started a project called started something called Project PM. He went to prison over this. Actually, he's an investigative reporter and he was working with some hackers and they uncovered information related. I think this might have come from WikiLeaks and WikiLeaks emails. And we saw that

I believe was the Air Force was buying social media accounts that they would that one person would run 50 accounts to manipulate public opinion by pretending to be 50 different people. So if you are a I'll take a million followers and you post on social media something like, well, I, you know, I just plain don't like Israel or whatever. You get responses from 50 accounts instantly all saying you are right. Israel is bad. We love you. You are correct.

You're so great. And what happens is when the average person can only see about 300 posts are once once they get to the point where more than 300 comments are coming in, it becomes unintelligible. So you go on social media and you're, you, you comment something like waffles are great. And then every response is no, they're bad. You shouldn't eat carbs. Starches are bad. It could be one person commenting by themselves 50 times to trick a high profile personality into saying, wow, people get really mad when I praise waffles. I better not do that. It's a lie. One thing they don't have a really good time of doing is dealing with polls. So I recommend people use polls. Here's what I think

is happening. A lot of the views that are happening on X for left and right were bots, I'm willing to bet with to a great degree based on the reporting we saw 12 years ago from Barrett Brown, the knowledge we have of sock puppet accounts and the government use of them as well as private sector, that you've got private entities, political action committees, governments all competing and using bot farms and sock puppets to manipulate public perception through social media. Elon Musk has begun nuking all of the bots. You need to pay now.

You need to get your blue check. The bots don't appear as prominently. So what's happening? Interactions are becoming genuine. Ad rates going up. Well, it's quite simple. More real humans are interacting with your posts. So your views seem to be down, but money seems to be up in some, not all the time,

but then people are like, Hey, I'm only getting a few. I'm only getting a hundred retweets. I used to get, I used to get a thousand. Yeah. Because they used to manipulate public opinion by making sure they amplified certain messages and making it look like certain messages were popular or unpopular and by programming responses. You got stream deck working again? Oh, there we go. So we're back in business, despite the fact that our broadcaster says it's completely broken. But yeah, so I think that's what we're seeing with social media. I wouldn't be surprised if it's mostly fake. I mean, look at this. They used to claim that Big Bang Theory was getting 20 million viewers. I'm like, dude, I don't buy that for a second. I don't buy it for a second. It's fascinating that you look to the digital

era where we can track IP addresses and know exactly how many people are watching at any given time. And we're supposed to believe the numbers from traditional media about what they're getting when they're like, it's an estimate. Nah, I don't believe you. They just like, you know, we learned this also 10 years ago. Now, this is 10 years ago, 2014. There was something called ad rights sales where these media companies would go to clickbait farms that produce garbage and trick people into clicking and buy the rights to their traffic so they could put it in their network. All the big digital outlets were doing it. They were claiming we get 30 million views per month. And what they wouldn't tell the advertisers

is that 10 million was the actual website and 20 million came from bot farms that were producing garbage. So they make these websites where most of you have seen it and it'll be like 25 photos of celebrities, you know, uh, having wardrobe malfunctions. You click it and then one image pops up and there's 800 ads. And then you have to scroll down, click next, and it loads the next image and another 800 ads. What they were doing is they're farming ad ad views. So they can then, what happens then is that one page with 50 ads on it, you click five images and you've generated 250 ad impressions. And then you charge money to an advertiser for that. The advertisers are then like, this is standard in the business. They have no idea why.

All they know is that when we buy 250 ad impressions, we get no sales. That's just the way it is. People don't like our product. What can you do about it? The reality was it was ads being given to, it was the same ad given to one guy five times or 50 times. And they're not interested in your product. They're not going to click it. And the advertisers were being defrauded and all of the big digital media companies were doing it. And then claiming that they were the next up and coming stars of media. The whole thing's been fake the whole time. The real question of influence is if the host of the show says, here's a product, do people buy it? If the host of the show says, become a member at Timcast.com, do people become members? If they do,

then you've actually got influence. And so the fascinating thing is there are a lot of people who buy fake followers, they buy views, and they can't sell a product to save their lives. That's the real test. And right now the challenge is when Facebook launched videos, you would get a million views on a Facebook video and like 100,000 on YouTube. So all these big companies, I told this story, I'm at a meeting and they're like, we got to go with Facebook. We're getting a million views.

And I'm like, yeah, but you guys realize those aren't real views, right? Like someone watches a YouTube video. It has to be for at least 30 seconds. Facebook is three. So people are scrolling on their feed and accounts as a view. That's not real. And they're like, who cares? We can sell those views and claim it in our network.

And it makes us look good. That was the route they wanted to go in media. So they didn't care about whether or not anyone actually was getting delivered an ad or a sponsorship. They just want to be able to claim they did. And then they go to the advertiser and say, your product sucks. Sorry, that's your fault. That whole system is going to implode. It's been imploding. And now we're moving into the space with, with what Elon is doing on X. And I think it's one of the most important things ever done. Eliminating the bots from the equation of ad sales and sponsorships to fix the system, I think is going to be a really great thing. That means ultimately, though, people are going to see engagement go down because it was never real to begin with. Does it ever come down

to the advertisers to, as they become more familiar with the digital marketing, you know, metrics to say like, oh, well, you're giving me 250 views, but it's, there's no conversion rate. Like are advertisers demanding more from these places or are they basically operating the same way they always did? Small advertisers will take out an ad and then when they get no, when it doesn't work, they come back and say, it didn't really work for us. Thank you. And have a nice day. Bigger advertisers don't know or care. And so these big companies will be like, put a million there, put a million there,

put a million there, put a million there, put a million there. And then if it doesn't work, they'll be like, we just buy ads. They're not going through it. We want brand awareness. Our marketing budget is $500 million. And so a lot of these companies are producing garbage.

And which is why you've seen like BuzzFeed implode, right? Because everyone's just, they've, it's out in the open now, right? Like this Uber ad model does not work. What do you guys do for advertisement? Sorry. I mean, we're a 501c3. Like we rely on small dollar donations and we're the American conservative. The Global Disinformation Index said that we had an American and a conservative bias what a brain trust they have working together over there to find out that the American conservative has

such a bias somebody spent like three weeks researching oh my gosh oh Pat Buchanan was the founder of this magazine oh my gosh yeah no it's ridiculous and it's funny to see like just like open admissions that this happens on social media exactly what you just laid out whether it's ridiculous and it's funny to see like like um just like open admissions that this happens on social media exactly what you just laid out whether it's the um you know when

these companies are going bankrupt so they're or they're doing mass layoffs just like saying out in the open yeah all of this is fake and then government sources like the idf had to admit that it and it said it made a mistake in creating a secret influence campaign on social media after October 7th. And like I think everyone's broadly on board. What happened on October 7th was absolutely terrible. But that is just an example of how governments play with social media to alter public opinion just as you laid out. That's really interesting. I will I will say this right now as well, because we've been doing this show for, what is it,

like going on four years now, and we know how the metrics all intertwine and work with each other, it looks like we're being throttled on YouTube, but it only looks like we're being throttled on YouTube. Because the backend metrics, super chats, likes are all comparable to when we normally have 38,000 concurrent views. Time watch, everything is stable. But the visible concurrent viewer count is lower than it normally is by like 30%, which isn't possible. Yeah, so considering the nature of the story. And we saw this happen a couple weeks ago when a bunch of YouTubers were impacted by some kind of glitch where their viewer counts were negatively impacted. But the viewer count

doesn't matter. Our Super Chat revenue is slightly above average for the time of the show. Our likes are over 10,000. And then the viewer count doesn't seem to make sense. But on the back end, we're actually slightly above average in total viewer count for where we normally are. I would not be surprised, and I don't think anyone else should be, if coming into this election, they find ways to harm this show

in such a way that they don't outright ban it because that causes too big of a splash, but they try to do things that are harder to trace and look strange so that it just seems like something else is happening like yo the weird system crash thing that we got considering the nature of the show i just don't believe in coincidence doesn't happen on a tuesday when you're talking about you know swing state polls or whatever you know you

have to have something spicy in there. And then all of a sudden, oh, it's just a coincidence. It happens every time. What is going on right now has never happened before ever. Oh, okay. I feel like, I mean, this is anecdotal, but like increasingly, I know people who have watched Tim Kass for years, even, you know, before I was part of it. And more and more, they'll reach out to me and say like, oh, I tried to find the show

last night, just typing into YouTube or whatever else. And it didn't, even when I was searching it specifically if they were aware who the guest was i couldn't find it like it's a year ago when i was on the show i didn't hear it nearly as often now i feel like i hear it much more regularly yeah and if we need to move on let me know but you mentioned the elon cleaning up the bots i totally agree with you it seems like very capital intensive right to have like a billionaire come in and buy a site and then be able to clean it out that way. Phil, you're the counter-revolutionary, right? How do you empower those decentralized media apparatuses in what I perceive to be a very centralized media environment?

What's the playbook? What's the revolutionary playbook? Well, I mean, the thing is, when it comes to dealing with the centralized power of Google or social media, it's tough for your average person to fight against that kind of stuff. So, I mean, I suppose the best thing you can do is for all the people that are creators to create on as many platforms as they can, make sure whatever it is that you create is at least accessible on as many platforms as they can make sure whatever it is that you, you create is at least accessible on as many places as you can. So that way you're supporting the whole ecosystem of, of different, you know, alternative tech and stuff like that. There's a lot of people that are great about it. You know, we do it here. There's, there's people like Jeremy at the quartering that everything that he puts up, um, it goes up onto alternative tech, same thing,

same thing with stick, stick, sex, and hammer. Everything goes up on alternative tech and dudes that do that are really, you know, they're the ones that are kind of pioneering the way to get away from, you know, the big corporations. And then you've got stuff like Public Square. But I don't know that there's anything in particular that your average person can, like, do, like, that's going to have an, if an impact, the thing that the, the position that we're in right now is all of the stuff that's going to work or that's, that's going to be successful is not going to give you that big time satisfying result, right? It's the small things that happen over and over and over. Cause that's how we've gotten to this point, right? All of uh the small like all the people that just allow uh allow the the the woke stuff to to influence their day i'm not going to say that because it might be a

uh a microaggression or you know you i'm not going to say this because it might offend someone or oh i don't want to do that like all those little things have have added up to the position that we're at now so now the things that you need to do is be like okay well you know do do the small stuff like getting like like shopping at public square before you go to amazon and and and going to you know making sure your alternative tech stuff but i mean i think that that's the best thing to do is is everyone just kind of focus on the small things make sure you're voting in your your local elections make sure you know your selectmen are these are the things that we talk about here for regularly. It's like being

actively on guard. Yeah. Somebody, somebody asked us, uh, they said Crowder gets 60 can rumble in YouTube. You should dual stream on rumble. All right. Here's, here's the issue. Uh, if we make a move to, so we, we, we typically are the number one live show at the time. Not always, but usually Tim Kess IRL has the highest average live viewership on YouTube. And that confers certain algorithmic benefits granted within the limits of the pressure they put on us. And so we also generate revenue in super chats, which is a decent amount. It's not the most substantial. If we when we moved our clips to Rumble, and again, no disrespect to Rumble. We love Rumble. Big fan. Rumble needs to exist and it needs to succeed.

When we moved my morning show and TimCastIRL clips to Rumble, you'll notice that they get 30,000 to 50,000 views. Comparably, we lost that many views on YouTube. Duh, makes sense. People are now watching on Rumble. We don't make money on Rumble. So by moving the clips over, we lost that many views on YouTube. Duh, makes sense. People are now watching on Rumble. We don't make money on Rumble. So by moving the clips over, we lost a couple million dollars in yearly revenue, but that's worth it if it means we are helping to compete and try and challenge the system. If we were to move the show over its entirety, then we lose a substantial amount of revenue. There is the possibility of dual streaming, which we've been actively working on.

And then we could do XRumble and Twitter. I'm sorry, and Twitter. XRumble and YouTube all at once, which would likely drop us out of the top YouTube ranking space, which isn't really that big of a deal, considering YouTube's giving us the business as it is. But if we end up losing more money, it negatively impacts everything we're doing. So there's a balance between sacrifice to

try and support platforms like Rumble and X so that we can compete with YouTube, but also revenue lost confers an inability to actually do the show. So one of the reasons we switched from heavy contents and advertiser model to membership a couple of years ago was that if we can build up memberships to a certain point, we don't have to worry about it. I would not say that we were at the point in memberships where we don't have to worry about it. If we have to do it, we will. And the question is, if we do switch over the show to dual streaming or even to Rumble exclusive, will we actually gain more members to the website? And we don't know that we will. For the time being, YouTube allows us to effectively advertise to the people who

aren't members to become members. And there's a constant churn and burn of people who leave. Credit cards expire. They don't sign back up and other people do sign up. And it's a general slow percentage growth per month. We hope we've had these conversations that if we switch to rumble, we're going to get a big spike in memberships from people who are like, this is the right move to make because it supports the alternate ecosystem. And then we get more viewers and it makes the show bigger. But because we don't know, we run the risk of if it ain't broke, don't fix it. That being said, YouTube breaking it makes it kind of more easy to just be like, well, we have no choice.

We need to multistream. I think that if we multistreamed to X, especially considering I have two million followers, we probably would get generally substantially more viewers. That would require us to do internal sales, which is another job. There's a lot of questions in how we make that work. That is a challenge for us. Um, sitting down and we're talking about it. Like if we do decide to multi-stream, are we going to lose money or make money? What are the net benefits and the net losses? Okay. A lot of people are like, ha ha, Tim only cares about money. Well, I care about the business

being able to operate and people being able to keep their jobs and for us to be able to do shows like this. If we don't make money, then the show just stops existing. So if we are currently on a path that generally has a slight growth rate, why shift that into a, in a dramatic way that causes us a massive net negative. Look, there, there are some other podcasts. So I don't want to name that are big that have stopped publishing on rubble in, in there and completely, and people have called them out for it. They ignore it. I know why they stopped publishing. I'm like, dude, they looked at their bottom line and said, Holy crap. When 20% of our audience switched to Rumble, we lost 20% of our ad revenue and we can't sell

against that. And now we got to lay people off. That's absolutely what they're looking at. I mean, no disrespect to Rumble. Like we, we, we know we're doing that. I hope everyone understands the importance of helping Rumble and being on Rumble so that people can make that choice. We're going to have to figure out sales. And I think perhaps what we'll have to do is do internal sales targeting Rumble specifically because they don't have the same mechanism as YouTube. So that's just something we've got to work out. But again, I'll stress like we've been, we've been working on a bunch of stuff on the backend for X Rumble and YouTube multi-streaming because of what YouTube's done in, in, in, in going after us. I just wish it didn't have to be that way. But it is. I hope Rumble

wins their lawsuit against Google for their monopoly and manipulation of the digital ecosystem. And what we are going through is a good example of why they should be suing. The way they manipulate the ad market and restrict competition makes shows like us have a very difficult time building a business outside of YouTube because of YouTube's stranglehold in the machine. So we intentionally put our clips on Rumble knowing it's going to hurt us because we have to put pressure in the other direction. I think that's a great position for Rumble to make that argument that the mechanism by which Google has created in this monopoly, like the example they give is that

Android devices have to have YouTube. You can't delete YouTube. So they basically have dominated the space and have cut everyone out of the market, putting pressure on all people produce content to be forced to use YouTube. And then they censor opinions they don't like. So anyway, long story short, I suppose it is a difficult space to navigate, especially in election year when they're attacking us and trying to throttle us and shut us down. So I don't know if maybe maybe I can write a 30 second pitch for memberships that is more effective than the one I normally do that drives more membership. Because I can tell you with three point three million unique viewers per episode across the board. Those people are not becoming members at TimCast.com.

They don't have to be. We do the show for free. But I'll tell you this. If every single person who listened to one of the, so when I say 3.3, it is clips and the full show itself. The clips generate a lot more than the full shows because there's more of them. Like one show can generate five to seven segments that are 10 to 20 minutes long. So if we're just talking the whole show itself, it's like half a million uniques per episode. If we were, it could be more, actually, that's unfair. It might be like 800.

If we were to actually convert 800,000 people to members from one episode, yeah, then we're, then we can literally do anything we want. Like at 10 bucks a month, you're talking about $8 million a month. And then it's just like, man, you can't, you can't shut us down. 8 million bucks a month, man, I'll buy out the entirety of Times Square. And then, but you know, the Daily Wire, I think has like over a million paying members, but it really is hard to get that, especially when the, when the economy is hurting so bad. Right now, we're coming out of an ad market lull, which everybody saw the brunt of. And the economy is getting bad.

When Joe Biden says the economy is good, they're lying. When you get these trolls in the chat, we're like, Tim doesn't understand what it's like because he's rich. I'm like, bro, I can look at ad rates and memberships and the wave of emails from people being like we're hurting too much right now to be able to be members like we can see it more so than probably an individual when they're going to the grocery store. Cause we see a hundred thousand people all saying right now, Hey, look at what we're going through. Certainly doesn't mean like I'm going through it, but I get it. I get it. Right. So, you know, hopefully we can come to a point where some people have suggested we, we hire people to do phone calls and like call up members whose credit cards have expired.

We don't do that. And they're like, hey, maybe if someone is a member and their credit card expires, you just need to remind them like to be a member. And that's true for most membership driven platforms. We don't because we try to just be organic with it. But, you know, it is what it is. So, you know, we'll work on it. In the meantime, we'll probably get banned, censored and nuked moving forward.

But, you know, it is what it is. So thanks for being members and become a member at Timcast dot com for the uncensored show, which will be up at 10 o'clock. And now we'll read Super Chats because I've been ranting for 20 minutes. All right. Kyle says, think you could get into Don Jr.'s ear about his dad picking a libertarian for his VP pick. Michael Rechtenwald or Josh Smith would be great choices. Yeah, I don't I mean, I don't think he would. But I do love the idea. If Trump was like, I'm going to pick a prominent libertarian personality and then he just wins over the entirety of the libertarian, not the entirety, but a large portion of it. I mean, I think that'd be massive.

Big, cool stuff. But it has to be a libertarian who's cool with closed borders. I don't want an open borders libertarianist Trump's VP. Most of the business caucus is. I'm just saying there's some still out there. We have to be careful if we're going to go this route. Fair enough. All right.

SN Spartan says, I feel like the Dems would have been better off if they just arrested and jailed Trump without charge or trial, because at least they wouldn't seem incompetent. Agreed. Fair point. Cole Marshall says, hit a new personal record today on deadlift, 320 for seven reps. Solid. Also, thank you everyone who prayed for my Frenchie last week. He has improved greatly.

Good stuff. Right on. We didn't have Clint in the chat, but Brian Egon says, howdy people. Howdy. And then we got Mike who says, clank. And he posted spoons. Oh, that's sad. Shout, Howdy, people. Howdy. And then we got Mike, who says, Clank. And he posted spoons. Shout out to Stixx and Hammer. I think he's listening to Taylor Swift's new album, by the way.

I think it's Swift, Hex, and Hammer. He was tweeting about how Clara Bow is one of the most beautiful actresses, and that's a song on Taylor Swift's new album. Just saying. Skylar Pearson says, Tim, your 6pm segment was seriously inspiring. I've been thinking about jujitsu more and more lately and I think I'm

going to go for it. By the way, Incubus is my favorite since I found science in a stolen CD player when I was 13. Yeah, I was saying Make Yourself by Incubus is like, that's the kind of music I grew up on. You guys know the lyrics to the song? Yeah. The young folks, young bucks. How old are you?

26 now. 26. Yeah, I have no idea what the song is Yeah. Yeah. The young, young folks, young bucks. And how old are you? 26 now. 26. You have no idea what the song is. Um, you should listen to it from 1999. And, uh, I feel like that whole album make yourself is literally just, um, what's the singer's name? Brandon. Brandon Boyd.

Yes. Brandon Boyd. That whole album is basically like someone told him what to do and he said no. And then he wrote like 13 songs about it. Yeah. But a great album you've got pardon me yeah which is him being like i'm overly stressed then you've got make yourself where that's it's a great line he's like he's basically says if you don't make yourself you'll fall apart you'll be pushed around the powers that be will have swallowed me whole but that's more than I can allow. He's got great, great lines in there.

And then the song, the warmth on that album, which he's like, don't let the world get you down. Not everyone here is that effed up and cold, you know, experience the warmth while you're alive. It's a great message. See, I grew up on that stuff. 6 p.m. Segment was basically like this woman.

I don't know if you guys saw is crying because she's 33. She's been single for seven years. She went to a comedy show. They told her to sit in the front row. She did. And no one else did. And she's by herself. So the whole time they're pointing out like, thank you so much for being brave and doing this. But she really just doesn't want to be lonely anymore. And I'm like, it's so sad because she's like 33, single, clearly has a job and pays her own bills and lives alone. She chose the career path and all she really wants is to she says when is it my turn like i want to find somebody and she's like they've been saying it for seven years it'll come along when you least expect it

it never did and all the all the guys she meets are trash and i'm like how much you want to bet there's a bunch of guys who watched that video and laughed at her and said yeah well maybe she should choose a guy blah blah it's like whoa hold. A lot of these guys are sitting on the internet complaining about women instead of lifting, instead of going for a walk, instead of running, instead of working on a project. And I'm like, I bet if any one of these guys who was watching a bunch of this like red pill content just decided one day to go for a walk and start lifting and figure out how they could be a better person every day and they met her, she would be grateful to meet someone who was trying as hard as she was. And then they would find that, you know, they would find companionship, but too many.

And I, I, I commend this woman for being like, I'm going to go out and meet people in the real world. And she tried. And I'm like, and there were a lot of guys who are actively trying to, but I'll just say, if you're the kind of person who sits online and complains about people and doesn't try to improve yourself, don't be surprised if you're alone. There's a lot of the, like a lot of the red pill guys are like, you know, I feel like they're just trying to collect money from dudes that are having a hard time. But there's a couple out there that seem like they, they, they are actually at least actually trying to be useful to guys even if they're not like motivated to be like i'm gonna help dudes and like i want to make sure that people get blah blah like even if they're just like well you know i want to make money off of this or you know because i'm selling a product or whatever there's a dude ryan stone that that has a couple books out and he's really

like he's got a very realistic perspective and he's one of the things that he talks about is is just like tim was saying it's like you have to get yourself together first. And that's one of the things that dudes don't do. Most people are not self-reflective. Most people don't think about, you know, what am I? You know, where am I? What am I bringing to the table? Exactly.

Where am I messing up? How am I, you know, how am I failing? And the thing is women don't have to go and try to meet guys like women just don't have to guys go to try to meet women so if you're one of those dudes it's like well you know i haven't met someone or i you know i haven't bumped into a woman or whatever it's your responsibility to go out there and do it because women have forever been in the position where guys approach them yeah that may change that may be changing and maybe there are more women now, but if you're, hold on, hold on one second.

If you want to get, if you want to meet someone, you have to do the things that are going to put you in a position that is most likely to get you into, you know, into a relationship. So that, so even if there are things that like not every woman likes this or not everyone likes that or not everyone woman likes this. You have to do the things that the vast majority of women like and like because you're trying to cast a wide net. So I'm sorry. No, I was going to say I think it's that idea of like you if you have this idea of like a partner or a wife or spouse or husband or whatever it is like you also have to be the kind of spouse, wife, partner, whatever it is that that person would want. And women and men don't want the same things.

It's nothing like they like just because you're a dude that thinks that they want something doesn't mean that that's what women want and vice versa. I'm sorry. And to the commenter who's like, Tim's been lifting for a month and now he's going to try and tell me, well, it's been three. But the reason I said lifting is because it's easy. No, I've been skateboarding for 25 years and been physically active. And, uh, you know, my periods, look, I, you know, uh, two and a half years ago, I was 200 pounds. Now I am working out every day, uh, have,

have lost 30 pounds and, uh, and, and, and, and like I decided I've got to do more every day to be a better person. So three months ago, I was like, I should add lifting to my already intensive exercise schedule. Today, I skated for two hours, a thousand calories burned in those two hours. And that's usually what I do every single day. Well, except for Fridays. Fridays, when we just, we hang out,

we do the morning show and then play poker. And that's like, you gotta have a rest day on there. And then I think this Sunday we chilled and what did we do on Sunday? We went play poker. And that's like, you gotta have a rest day on there. And then I think this Sunday we, we chilled. And what did we do on Sunday? We, we, we went to, um,

I mini golfed. Oh, cool. Because you gotta have girls rest days. My point is simply this. There's a lot of people who are online just complaining about women. And like, bro,

but you are allowed to complain about women. You are allowed to complain about guys for sure. I'm just saying there are women out there who are good and are trying to find good men. And then there are a lot of guys who are not improving themselves, who are angry that women don't choose them. And it's like, guys have to earn their status. Yeah. You have to earn it. And it's not easy. You are, you are life is a treadmill. And if you walk, you're standing still. And if you stop, you're moving backwards and you have to be running at full speed the whole time. It is not easy. That's like, just look at life. Look at nature, all the animals competing to try and reproduce. That's all it is. And if

you're sitting around and you're not becoming, you're not improving yourself. And don't be surprised if you get, if you get passed over, like, you know, that's just it. Guys got to earn it, man. No one, No one said life was fair. And the guys were like, yeah, well, women don't have to do this. And women can just do this. It's like, sure. Like, not easy. And some guys are tall.

And you're like, it's not fair. You're tall. You have it easy. You're right. 100% right. Dudes who are like, that guy is tall and he's just naturally got a physique. It's unfair. Correct.

It is unfair. Now you have to work 10 times harder. Life's not fair. The number one thing that irks me about the like even more genuine red pill folks is that they completely reject the notion of sexual complementarity and they completely reject the notion that like actually the key to healthy relationships is deeply reflecting and considering that. And so, like, even in their relationships, they still set up this dichotomy of, like, it's individuals compromising. And there is a lot of compromise in relationships. And the people involved in relationships are individuals.

Sure. But actually, like, the whole purpose—I'm a Catholic, right? So, like, sacrament of marriage, which I'm preparing for, means that like I am going to cling to my wife. We are going to become one flesh. And like that should scare the ever-living daylights out of you in the best way possible. Because like if you lose a sense of sexual complementarity,

you end up in these types of relationships where like even if, you know, you're going to the gym and you're doing the hard things and you're like trying to make yourself appealing to women, like you actually have still missed the point. That like the point is not to enter into like a bipolar cold war between you and your significant other. Like you actually need to move forward together.

Like it's the Abrahamic call to leave your father's house, stop being a lazy, cold war between you and your significant other, like, you actually need to move forward together. Like, it's the Abrahamic call to leave your father's house, stop being a lazy—you know, Jordan Peterson does this, like, what's Abraham? Stop being a lazy bum. Cling to your wife. That's not bad. He's 95 years old. He leaves his house. That's crazy. Like, you know, it's that. And there's an incredible truth to it, and it doesn't have to be biblical per se. I mean, the pagans, the classics talk about this frequently, where, you know, Aristotle's talking about friendships and it's like marriage actually, because the sexes are opposed in a way, it's very difficult to find what he calls true friendship, which is a friendship based in virtue,

right? There's friendships of utility, there's friendships of convenience, but that friendship of virtue is the highest. And in marriage, it is especially difficult, but it is the area in which like that is most possible, like that true friendship of virtue is most possible. So that's my two cents. Dale G asked, how many steps are you averaging on that Garmin watch, Tim? I pulled it up. 7,500 to 8,000. I had one day at like 12,000. Yeah. I don't know.

Is that good or bad? I don't know. 10,000 is considered really good, I think. Per day? It's like 7,500. But I average about two hours of exercise four to five times a week. And one of those days might, I think like Saturdays can be like three to three and a half hours of max heart rate.

I'm being told that I need to stop because I spend too much time at VO2 max. So like I had one day at like an hour at VO2 max and they're like, you're old, Tim, stop. So I'm like, well, I don't know. I just go as hard as I just skate. You know what I mean? That's the thing about skating, I guess.

Neglectful Sausage says, Tim, working out makes you a better person is like men saying wearing makeup makes you a better person. If you actually wanted to debate Red Pill, you'd have Stardust or Karen Stryon on simp. That's what I love about like me saying, hey, you should work out simp for who? Who am I simping for? What? Guys should exercise, be fit and strong. Y'all need some Marcus Aurelius.

I think it misses the point of working out. Like, yes, you can be strong and healthy and it's good. But also like the discipline of being like, I am setting a goal. I'm going to the gym once a day. You know, I'm going to progress in the thing I'm growing on. Those are traits that women are looking for, right? Someone who is disciplined, someone who has goals, someone who has ambition.

And yes, working out brings you physical health. So that's a benefit. But like it also changes your character and changes your habits. And that is what you need to do to live a productive life. And especially if you want to be in a long-term relationship, I think you have to have the kind of character that supports long-term growth. Yeah, do the hard things that you don't want to be in a long-term relationship i think you have to have the kind of character that supports long-term growth yeah do the hard things that you don't want to do like if you just look at something and say like i don't want to do that screw that and then you accuse someone of saying you should do that thing it's really good for you of being a simp i mean okay well then just stop

playing the game like stop pretending that you're even playing the game in the first place you're not here dragon dragon slayer says tim's heart's gonna explode i was told that because they were that you know like we've got uh two different trainers here we've got one who does stretching and massage and one who does actual training and they're both just like oh you gotta slow down a little bit and i'm like but if i'm capable of doing it i don't understand like when i skate i skate when'm comfortable skating, and I skate as hard as I can. And I don't feel like I'm going to die or anything. But they're like, yeah, but you're pushing it. And I'm like, I don't know the difference, so I guess whatever.

You said it burns 1,000 calories when you skate for two hours? What part of your body is getting just worked when you're skating? I've never skated. You're not doing any anaerobic upper body stuff. But what I've added to my skate routines is i lift a little bit before during and after because otherwise you're not getting any anaerobic upper body but it's uh it's a full body workout uh it's it's uh um what is it what's what anaerobic uh is that the word i'm thinking of aerobic and anaerobic uh so at vo2 max you're doing anaerobic cardio

where you're burning like you're not getting enough oxygen and so then you get like afterburn and stuff like this but yeah it's just shirt is soaking wet i could probably strain it out with sweat and you're i bet you're just your core just gets worked to all oh yeah and it's and it's i would say like i typically average about 1300 calories in two hours. Today was a thousand. It was a thousand in two hours because today was a bit light. I was kind of chilling and did a couple new tricks and stuff like that. But you're you're you're charging full speed. I try to keep my heart rate as high as I can when I'm when I'm skating, even though you don't really need to.

And if you're trying to land a proper technique, then you probably don't want to be overloaded. But I love it. I love just basically getting that fire going. to land a proper technique then you probably don't want to be overloaded but i love it i love just basically getting that fire going but i do think it's funny that you've got people who are like working out doesn't make you a better person you're a simp i like someone i think i think pearl called me a simp or something like that like i don't know if she did because i don't understand the context or whatever because i didn't i didn't defend any women you know what i mean like super chat is wrong anyways working out does make you a better person but it's like this idea among like

the red pill people is that if you criticize a woman who's red pill you're a simp and i'm like but isn't simping when you just like get on your knees for a woman and like tell her she's right no matter what people people use words improperly so much it's it's super annoying i've heard the word grifter used towards just someone I don't like more times than I can count. People don't know what words mean. They have no idea. They shouldn't even be allowed to talk.

All right. Let's grab Mark Ivey. He says, A few days ago, I was celebrating the birth of my son on 5-14. On 5-19, we returned to the hospital as my wife was having chest pain. She passed at 2 a.m. We are asking for help with funeral costs, bills for the kids, give, send,

go. G-C-H-K-H. Son is only seven days old. Holy crap, man. Dude, sorry to hear. Wow. Let me pull that there up. What was it? G-C... Give, send, go. G-C-H-K-H. Let me see if I can find this one. Give, send, go.

GCHKH. Let me see if I can find this one. GCHKH. I can't find it, man. It is not coming up. I can try and search for it again, but I can't find it. GCHKH. Amber Pearson's Memorial Fund. You found it? Yeah, I did. I can send and search for it again, but I can't find it. GCHKH? Amber Pearson's Memorial Fund. You found it?

Yeah, I did. I can send it to you. Let me search. Okay, I found it. Is that it, man? Rebecca Pearson Memorial Fund for her children? You're Rebecca? I have Amber.

Amber, sorry. What did I say? I thought they were maybe bringing up two. Oh, campaign created by Rebecca. Oh, okay oh okay okay that's what i was reading man sorry sorry wow that's that's that's sorry to hear it man we'll uh we'll help you out with we can yeah definitely for your family bender the offender says a lot of people were worried trump would be targeted for assassination attempt now that the story has come out that the fbi authorized to use lethal force, the Mar-a-Lago raid, who's to say they won't try it again before this election. That's a scary thing. And the FBI says it's standard protocol to authorize this.

What about rating a former president in this way is standard protocol. That's the crazy thing. It's not standard protocol and it should not be standard and it should be special. But we're going to go over to the members only show for call-ins where U.S. members get to call in. So become a member at TimCast.com to support our work because YouTube's unreliable. But hey, it is what it is. And you'll get a chance to actually submit questions, call into the show. It's good fun.

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