Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1034 President Trump Talks Immigration & War WIth Tim Pool w/ Trump & Kash Patel

Episode Date: May 28, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil, & Luke are joined by Kash Patel AND the 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump for a special episode of Timcast IRL from the Libertarian Party Convention. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are here at the Libertarian Party National Convention. It is absolutely amazing hearing these debates. And today we are honored to be joined by two guests. We have Kash Patel, who will be joining us in the first portion of this show. So we can talk about policy, Planche 2024, what's going on in government and what we'd like to see. And then later on, we'll be joined by President Donald Trump. It is an honor and a privilege to be able to host him. As you can probably assume, he's a very busy guy.

So we're only going to be able to have him for about a half an hour, and it's going to be in the later portion of the show. But stick around because I have many, many questions for him, and I think it's going to be an absolutely amazing conversation. But in the meantime, before we get started, head over to Casperoo.com, click, buy our coffee. We've got Appalachian Knights Holbein, Rise of the Birdo Jr. It looks like we're sold out of Appalachian Knights Holbein, but we do have ground.

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Joining us to begin the conversation is Kash Patel. Hey, great to be with y'all. Happy Memorial Day to all our veterans. And thank you for everyone that served. And I am excited about the conference to discuss that and also look forward to you and President Trump's discussion. It's going to be fire, I think. And I'm going to selfishly plug the book that Donald Trump made a bestseller.

He called this the roadmap to 2024, the deep state destruction wrecking ball. And cool announcement, Steve Bannon and I have joined forces to make this into a movie. It releases in about four weeks. So stay tuned. Government Gangsters is going to be previewing

in theaters near you in about four to five weeks. Right on. And I definitely want to talk to you about the plans for the future. I'll keep it light as possible because, you know, obviously, you know, later on the show when I'm able to sit down with the president, I have a lot of questions about law enforcement and things that we'd like to see. But I know that you have a lot of experience. We'll load you up. Yeah, you've got a lot of experience in that area. So we got

Luke hanging out. Yeah, that's going to be a very interesting conversation. My name is Luke Radowski of YouTube.com forward slash we are changed. Today, I'm wearing a shirt that reads on blank blank seven thousand five hundred dollars a load to see what blank says and to see what's underneath the stickers. Go to the best political shirts dot com. And thank you so much for having me. This should be a great conversation. We got Phil hanging out. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. How you doing, Hannah Clare?

I'm good. It's fun to be back. Happy Memorial Day to everyone. I'm Hannah Clare Brimel. I'm a writer for scnr.com. That's Garen News. Let's start. You know, so I was just out at the presidential debates that they're having at the lp national really excited i think this is one of the uh biggest parties in politics but not political parties i mean like the people hanging out the conversations you've got uh with trump

being here with rfk jr here it's it's a big conversation now out there in that uh while they're having this debate so for those that may have watched this is you know several days before uh they i think it was josh smith called for the arrest of everyone he said the head of moderna the head of pfizer fauci and then he said trump and biden whoa and everyone's gonna get some eyeballs that going to get some eyeballs. So, I don't know. I'm not a big fan of the arrest Trump thing. Yeah, clearly. I mean, the Democrats are already doing it, right? Exactly. So, we might as well arrest everyone now.

But, you know, in that vein, the one thing that I really want to see is, I want to see arrests. I want to see corrupt individuals who lied under oath. Russia gate hoax. the Burisma hoax. I mean, what's what's what's the probability we get some legitimate accountability? So I think what you want to see is that accountability. Right. And the best form of accountability comes in the form of an arrest, especially when the people that are supposed to be watching over the law are the ones breaking it. And it's been a cycle we've seen happen since Russiagate, since Jan 6, since the 51 Intel letter, since Hunter Biden's laptop. And the list goes on. And people keep getting frustrated and rightfully so when the government gangsters like James Comey and Merrick Garland and those guys get to break the law and issue unlawful violations of federal statute to go after political opponents. So I think President Trump has been only Trump speaks for Trump. But in my opinion, I think President Trump has been very vocal on his positions on being the largest victim

of that deep state prosecution. I mean, to your point, 91 counts on indictments and counting. Maybe we don't know what's next and they're failing and he's exposing the two tier system of justice. So what you need is an FBI dag and A.G. to start that process. If those three guys aren't in lockstep, you're not going to have accountability. So, you know, Trump's gagged when I'm not. You're not. You're not there Monday. Right. Well, so this is our opportunity before we get into the deeper conversation with the man himself. Cohen stole 30 grand. It's unbelievable. Then they reimbursed taxes on top, so it's 60.

But the – so in this New York trial, they say that he got a total of I think it was like $420,000 paid. Yeah. Under the assumption this was legitimate payment for the work that he was doing. But the defense's argument is that Donald Trump did not know Michael Cohen was paying Stormy Daniels. Cohen took out a home equity loan to pay it himself, told Costello that was the case, then asked for a reimbursement for legal expenses, to which the Trump organization, it was, who was it? Was it Allen? Weisselberg. What's it Allen? Weisselberg.

Weisselberg. What's his name? Weisselberg. Weisselberg. I thought that I didn't want to get it wrong. So he's like, okay, I'll pay you and I'll cover the taxes for you. That means that Cohen stole probably a quarter million dollars. Oh, at least.

Listen, let's rewind the tape a little bit and remind the world what Hillary did. Not to go back to Russiagate, but everything seems to, right? Hillary Clinton took publicly raised funds, $10 million, hit it as a legal expense, gave it to a law firm and said, go out and hire Fusion GPS and create the Steele dossier, which is actually illegal to use campaign finance dollars. That's not only a felony, it's a civil fraud violation. The FBI never charged her. In this case versus Trump, Right. He used his own money for an actual legal expense. There's nothing illegal about that. Right. But the two tier system of justice rocks on. Well, this is the hilarious thing in New York. They said that

it's a state law that says you can't corruptly influence an election. So the only reason like in the event that Trump knew he was actually paying off stormy daniels the only reason that would be illegal is if trump was doing it to corruptly influence a state election which he's not which it's beyond the statute of limitations so there's nothing here and we know for a fact cone has admitted to stealing at the minimum 30k minimum minimum minimum and if you and if you add in the tax uh reimbursement 60 And if we believe the defense, which would literally, which should be made by prosecutors when they're prosecuting Cohen, it's a quarter million dollars. And it's money laundering. So look, I was a public defender,

national security prosecutor. I tried 60 jury trials to verdict. When I was watching Michael Cohen last week implode the prosecution's case on the witness stand, I was just completely beside me. He was an awful witness. He was so bad. He literally, as you said, for the first time that I've heard, admitted to six more felonies that the DOJ, the district attorney's office, and the Southern District of New York all knew about for four years, and none of them prosecuted him for any of it.

I got a question for you. So you're a prosecutor yeah have you ever attempted to get a felony suspect to flip to get a misdemeanor it's unheard of as if but as if that wasn't bad enough the defense calls one witness bob costello i've never seen stuff like this in a courtroom he goes out and exonerates the defendant and as you said the prosecution knew that information. They knew that they should never brought this case. He literally said Michael Cohen came to me, Bob Costello, as his attorney and said 10 times, I have absolutely nothing on Donald Trump. That's what Michael Cohen told the DOJ, the FBI, the district attorney's office and everyone as it relates specifically to the Stormy Daniels matter.

And then you know what the judge did? He kicked us all out of the courtroom he literally kicked the entire courtroom out i've never seen anything like this the media went nuts hey i mean bonkers i they were screaming at each other the cops in the courtroom didn't know what to do wasn't dushowitz there and he said it was the craziest moment that he has ever witnessed in his whole legal career oh man it was alan and i were like and obviously he's one of the bright and this is the guy who represented uh what did he work with oj and he was oj's lawyer and like this guy's and this is the wildest thing that he saw in court in 60 years and the judge you should see what happened behind closed doors we got to stay and the judge was basically scolding costello saying don't don't you can't stare me down.

And Costello, who I would remind you is a former federal prosecutor, one of the head guys at the Sundress in New York, a career defense attorney. He was just looking at the judge like WTF, dude. Like, what are you saying? Because if the judge is like, you're staring down, he's like, no, I'm not. He's like, you're arguing with me. It was hilarious. Like, you know, normally you object and then there's a basis for the objection. And then the judge like ponders it.

In this case, the prosecutors just stopped objecting. The judge just said, sustain, sustain. I've never seen it. I was like, where's the object? Like, you couldn't get an answer out, which is why Bob Costello was like, do you want me to answer this? Or do you want them to prosecute me for lying under oath because you, the judge, won't let me answer the question?

Yep. And that's what he wanted. I think what they do want is they want to send a message to any witnesses that they'll just claim it was a lie under oath. They will go after you for perjury no matter what. I mean, you look at Peter Navarro. You look at they will get you to testify. And this is why I think it's imperative that Bannon resist this. Yeah, his trial's next.

In front of this judge. This is what we saw with Flynn. They basically play this game where they'll ask you a question that if you misremember, it's a lie instead of, I don't know. Like, it could be something as innocuous as they need it to be. What did you have for breakfast? What did I have? I have scrambled eggs.

Yeah. You had over easy you son of a no your point is spot on everybody's like donald trump's got to testify donald trump's got to testify and in a normal constitutional courtroom where he has that right to do so and not be in fear of being baselessly prosecuted the reason and i'm not speaking for him but i would opine legally is that i wouldn't put donald Trump on the witness stand because they'll ask him one question about something he did in his past. And they'll say, you lied. We're prosecuting you for that. They're going to lie. We're prosecuting you for that.

You know what they're going to do? And this is why Trump shouldn't testify. And why it's why he good he didn't. They're going to say something like the prosecution is going to have him on the stand and say, Mr. Trump, when you illegally paid Michael Cohen to cover up your crime, did you do it on Monday or Tuesday? Right. And he's going to go, I didn't. The judge is going to say, answer the question, Mr. Trump, Monday or Tuesday.

And Trump's going to say, but I didn't do this. It's Monday or Tuesday, answer the question. And you bring up another point. Not only would the district attorney's office charge him with every felony for lying under oath, that judge specifically has contempt of court powers. Yeah. So the judge, you saw what he did to Costello. The world did, right? I mean, he literally did something nobody,

including Alan Dershowitz, has ever seen. What do you think he's going to do to Trump? I mean, he's already threatened him with jail time, right? He's going to literally be like, I'm holding you in contempt, a million dollars. I'm holding you in contempt. You're going to jail for a week. And I want to just show this story briefly

just to make sure everybody... I was like seven feet away from that. Anybody who might not understand. I mean, this is Politico. Are you staring me down right now? Key Trump defense when this draws judges wrath. This is unprecedented absurdity and insanity that we're seeing in this court case. And it's worrying to me that it's mainly an issue for Politicos.

People who are paying attention to politics who are watching the news but for your everyday average american they they don't know what this stuff is yeah and so you see people on the street get asked the question and they'll be like yeah i don't know maybe trump did it and it's like if you were actually watching this on a day-to-day it's like they they were reporting in numerous publications the tv drama moment when michael kuhn was caught lying about the phone call. He said, I was a phone call talking to them about paying off Sturmey Daniels. And then the prosecution or I'm sorry, the defense says you were actually talking about a prank phone

call. Were you not? That was a lie. And then here's the proof. And then they reported a pin drop moment like it was a TV movie. That's how insane this court case is. Well, that's why I thought it was good that Trump didn't take the stand. Right. They've already been on trial for five weeks. The jury is reportedly exhausted. There's no reason to put him in a position where they can just ask him about all kinds of things and trap him into other crimes. But also like this is dumb. We all know it. Let's just get this over with. I think that was one of the best moves that the defense made because the prosecution would have dragged out cross for another six weeks. Oh, yeah. About this forever. And that's that's what they wanted, because the judge in this case and the prosecutors know that they'll never publicly admit if they jail Donald

Trump, he's going to win overnight if they if they so if Donald Trump is found guilty, which because it's a rigged system, there's a likelihood that he might they are going to have to allow Donald Trump to stay out on bond while he appeals this bogus trial. Otherwise, this country is a rigged system there's a likelihood that he might they're going to have to allow donald trump to stay out on bond while he appeals this bogus trial otherwise this country's going to go nuts well trump got the um the hate endorsement from uh jenkuger it's not really an endorsement but jenks said trump is going to win buckle up and the funny the reason i say it's the hate endorsement is that if i tweeted trump is going to win buckle up it i support trump i'm voting for him so it's seen as trump's gonna win baby buckle up jen gieger says it and he's giving a warning to the progressives but i call it the

hate endorsement because he's basically saying to the left we're with how i mean what did biden just say the other day pack a lack lack of lack of he's got a new i don't know he's got a new one he's got a new word. Between him and Kamala, they have their own language. He's an innovator. He's a creator. He's creating new jobs for Webster Dictionary. You know what you've got to do? Get him a t-shirt that says

what he should say on the t-shirt that he can wear. Pack-a-lack-a-lack-a-lack-a-lack. Go bottom-up. But, you know, on your thing, you heard what James Come comey did but this hate guy did same thing right james comey went on some clown show two days ago and basically said it doesn't matter who you are what kind of human being are you have to vote biden and he goes and james comey the director of the fbi who architected russiagate and signed the bogus search warrants

he's the one telling the world right now you have to vote biden because he's in fear that trump is going to weaponize government that is i mean how rich is that it's Biden because he's in fear that Trump is going to weaponize government. I mean, how rich is that? It's ridiculous. Well, he's in fear that Trump will actually bring accountability in government. My attitude with this is, does Trump want revenge? If I was Trump, I'd want revenge. Unfortunately for these deep state cronies, these people who have lied over and over again to the American people, revenge and accountability overlap tremendously.

And so I'll take it when and this is why I want to see arrests. I want to see firings. I think anybody who was party to the general corruption, to the Russiagate stuff, these intelligent agencies, they should they should be asked to resign at the lowest level, fired at the at the higher level, criminally prosecuted at the criminal at the corrupt level. What I mean to say is those who were corrupt should be in jail. Those that knew what was going on and helped facilitate but wasn't really party to the worst ongoings terminated immediately. And those who are just underneath them and maybe filing the paperwork, I'm going to ask

for your resignation peacefully. You need to get out of here. Yeah, look, can I can I add a couple of things to that that I recommended to President Trump and whether he'll do it or not is up to him, obviously. But immediately you revoke forever everyone's security clearance, that everyone's security clearance that ever participated in an illegal act that was not prosecuted. Everybody that signed the 51 Intel letter. I'm talking three secretaries of defense and CIA and NSA deputies and everybody because

what the world doesn't understand is those swamp monkeys rely on that security clearance to go out and get their $10 million payday in the defense industrial complex. And do you know who is the sole arbiter of security clearances? The president of the United States. But this is why and you pull it forever. So

they can't make their way back. I mean, that's well, this is one of the United States. But this is why. And you pull it. Forever, though. So they can't make their way back. I mean, that's the issue. Well, this is one of the reasons why they're saying vote Biden. But I think more importantly is they probably go home every night and start sweating, staring, lying awake late at night thinking, if Trump wins, I go to jail. Well, yeah, maybe. If Trump wins, maybe I go to jail. But if Trump wins, I lose my bankroll.

That's what they're fearing the most. All these people come in and out. It's not a Republican or Democrat thing. The Rod Rosenstein's of the world, the Gina Haspel's of the world. All these people are making money off of breaking the law and using it to weaponize it against Donald Trump. And their fear is that since they've become famous, James Comey, on a certain side of the country with certain political beliefs, their fear is their till, their cash ATM is going to be turned off and then they'll get prosecuted. Now, what about the next tier beyond is criminal prosecutions is schedule F and terminations across the board. We're here at the Libertarian Party National Convention. And if you went, if Trump goes out there and says, I'm going to fire them all, the whole crowd just cheers, just erupts.

Look, here's the thing. When I was when I was his deputy for DNI or when I was running DOD for him, you know, we did. People think it's a myth. They're like, you can't fire government employees. I'm like, why not? What? Well, it's a tradition. What?

It's a terrible tradition. It's like traditions all the time. I was like, it's like the DOJ telling me it's a tradition not to prosecute presidents during presidential issues. Except Donald Trump. Right. Yeah. So we fired a ton of people. We eliminated a lot of waste.

Nobody said anything. And also, if these people are in violation of internal regulations, which a ton of them have already admitted to during the Biden administration by going public, by breaking regs, you can fire them. So while you don't need to fire everybody, you could fire a ton of people. And then you could fire everybody, though. We need some. There's a lot of good guys left in. I'm telling you, there's still a lot of good folks left in there. Right. I say the best government is no government, but that's my own personal opinion. There's a myth that there's a myth that people are like, oh, who's doing the books,

you know, the employee books or whatever. We need 4,000 employees to be appointed. When Trump goes in, I was like, where did you get this 4,000 number? Like, well, every president has said we need 4,000. Why do we need 4,000? Give me 500 good guys. The other 3,500 are the people causing the problems that you end up putting in government. They end up being people like Fiona Hill or John Bolton or Mike Pompeo or Mark Esper or Gina Haspel or Rod Rosenstein. I mean, the list goes on like you don't need them all. You know what it is? The way I describe this government program stuff is

our nation gets a wound. We get it. We get a cut on our arm. So we put a bandage over it. What you should do is eventually rip the bandage off, clean it and see if it's healed. Instead, what we do is we slap another bandage over it, then another bandage over it. These government bureaucrats are basically the only answer government seems to have. I should say 99% of the time, because there are good people like Ron Paul. He was in Congress. He was in government. I get that. But typically it's who can we hire and how much more can we spend? Sometimes the problem is the spending and is the hiring. It's the person who works in a bureaucratic office who's like, I don't want to lose my job. And so they they're there are perverse incentives to create issues or maintain issues so they don't lose their job. And that

right now, I think, is largely with Donald Trump is is obviously the the right choice for this country right now. And I'm talking about the number one issue for the American people, and that's economics. The second issue that actually rivals the first is immigration. Well, everyone trusts Donald Trump on those two issues. If you want to get into culture war issues on abortion and other things, that's totally fine. We can have that argument. But for the American people right now, they're concerned primarily about, are we going to get the economy going good? And the issue is for the people who are bureaucrats in government, the economy goes south for them when Trump comes in and they get

fired for being bad at their jobs. So now there's a perverse incentive among these people to jam up the system and support in any way they can systems that hurt Donald Trump, which means they're hurting the majority of the people of this country who need better leadership when it comes to paying their grocery bill yeah look this is what the joe biden administration is setting up right now he just it he just released that he's going to sell a million barrels of the american oil reserve right he's doing that so gas stays down to three bucks a gallon until election day they're down to three how ridiculous is that right down to three what was it when Trump left office? I think it was a buck.

Oh, right. Right. The reserves were full. Yeah. Yeah. The fact and there was definitely at least one opportunity for Biden to refill the. But if he does, he buys prices go up. He is.

He is attempting. Yeah. Yeah. To rip off the American safety net, the American reserve, because he's trying to manipulate the market to try and stay in place. And he'll say, look at gas prices under me. They're going down. Well, he's doing that with

the student loan forgiveness program as well, giving away money that is not rightfully his. So I'm still paying off my law school debt because I told the Biden administration, F you, I signed an agreement. I'm going to pay it off. Really? And they sent me an email saying, oh, you've qualified yet again for the student loan forgiveness boondoggle.

But people don't understand what it does to inflation. I mean, it spends, it sends our money cratering into an abyss and it costs, I went to the grocery store the other day, it was six bucks for a dozen eggs. I was like, what the heck? Like peanut butter was like four bucks a jar. A loaf of bread was like four. And I'm losing it.

So the other day, you know, this is important for everybody. I asked ChatGPT to give me a diet plan. They told me to eat peanut butter and banana. And so I asked, I said, can someone go out and grab me some peanut butter? It was $4.60 for a small piece of peanut butter. That's ridiculous. How is a family of four, you know, I grew up eating peanut butter and jelly sandwiches at lunch. That's what my family could afford. How's a family affording that?

They can't. That's the problem. They can't do anything and this is why the Biden administration is trying to offer them all these other things. Free things. Student loan forgiveness. Also with student loan, they tried to roll out the FAFSA. They changed all the questions. They're like, it's hundreds too many. It's hard for minority

families to figure this out. And then they roll this out. Like, here, we're the saviors of you. And then it's all botched. All's hard for minority families to figure this out. And then they roll this out like we're here, we're the saviors of you. And then it's all botched. All of these kids are saying, like, I don't think I can enroll in college because you told me I had aid. Now I don't have aid. Like even the things they think they've got a stranglehold grip on being like, we're the best at getting people to college. They mess it up constantly. Like, not only are they lying to you, but they're incompetent. You can't just continue down this path for another four years. When Donald Trump was running to be president a few years ago, he was running on auditing the U.S. Federal Reserve System. And I remember hearing about that. And that got my interest in him specifically.

When he was president, he wasn't able to achieve that. He did increase the national debt. He did spend a lot of money. Do you think he learned his lesson from his last administration with how much money he spent? Because I haven't seen any kind of rhetoric. And overall, I do think he's going to be better for the economy than Biden. That's clearly the situation, especially with the more kind of populistic policies that he's pushing. But will there be less spending and will there be kind of a change to the previous policies that did increase the debt? Yeah, I mean, I think what you saw was Donald Trump spent in areas that weren't spent on before

that needed to be spent on to do things like build a border wall. But he also went overseas and took our money back. And I think you'll see a big windfall from going over to tariffing the Chinese and the CCP or going to NATO and saying you're spending you're spending your money but and we america are not and things like the un need to get slashed in terms of funding and all but but didn't biden say that uh a tariff on the chinese was a tax on the american people right just just a couple years later he then implemented tariffs just a couple days ago he did oh right yeah a couple years after he said trump does this he says he's just taxing the american people that's right a few years later he's Trump does this, he says he's just taxing the American people.

That's right. A few years later, he's like, I'm going to put tariffs in place. It's I mean, it's it's the ultimate hypocrisy, right? Whether it's the gasoline thing or the food price thing or the student loan thing. Remember his I think was one of the State of the Union addresses was literally just it was like a Trump speech. It was, I think, two years ago. He got heavily criticized for literally just saying a bunch of Trump talking points. And people were like, he's just lifting this.

Yeah, this is one week ago from the White House. President Biden takes action to protect American workers and business from Chinese unfair trade practices. And I remember when Trump did it, the mainstream media lit him up for it. What do you mean you're going to tariff goods from? And it was a leverage point. It wasn't a threat. It was a leverage point to say, you, the CCP, stop doing all the illegal stuff against Americans and our allies. Stop spying on us. Stop spoofing our data. Stop stealing our information and stop egging on bad actors like Russia, North Korea and everybody else.

And you know what happened? It worked. And also our coffers got a lot fuller because of those tariffs. So it's a leverage point. You use it in national security diplomacy as that. I love this. There's two world views in the Biden establishment, uniparty, whatever you want to call it, in the MAGA Trump populist. It seems like Donald Trump's view is, hey, if we secure our borders, bring jobs to America, make our chips here, make our cars here, it's going to be great for the American worker. There's going to be jobs, wealth and prosperity for Americans. And then the worldview of the of the Democrat Democratic Party and the Republican neocon establishment is how about we don't do any of that? We build military bases all over the world by go to war with foreign countries, dictate where we build

oil pipelines and our foreign conquest will just give us the rights over the petrodollar, etc. And then we'll artificially inflate the currency and etc, etc. That's when we're looking at the war in Ukraine, when we're looking at the conflict in the Red Sea, when we're looking at Taiwan, when we're looking at, I mean, invading Iraq and Afghanistan, going back to the Bush administration, the unit party of the united states has been instead of having americans get good jobs support their families right let's just drop bombs on other countries to have control over oil well it's like look ukraine i've always said this and it's part of what i talk about in the book the defense industrial complex does a lot of good but they are the most evil empire that owns all of washington dc and this unit party that you talk about. War is great for them.

War is the best thing for them and everyone they own in Washington and everyone they're going to give a job to. I'll give you an example. When we fired Mark Esper out of the Trump administration for not following the lawful commands of the commander in chief, you know what he did? He went and got a 12 million dollar payday at Raytheon. OK, so there it there's just lying in wait in the Ukraine. Right. We have given the ukraine if we

were to stop as united government and just stop and make surface-to-air missiles for the next seven years that gets america stockpiles back to neutral so if someone attacked us right now we don't have it and we can't print it and we can't make it but the defense industrial complex knows i've got billing for the next 20 years it doesn't matter if there's a republican or democrat in there and so that's why the ukraine's the modern day afghanistan and that's why these people are like you got to print money you got to print money you got to print money and it doesn't matter if they're republican or democrats because they're owned by the dod industrial complex and that thing needs to be slashed yeah big time yeah no no i actually

described ukraine as the afghanistan of europe because there's a lot of parallels there. There's always a lot of conflict there. And as soon as the Afghanistan was over, it was like the regime needed another war to justify a lot of their kind of more nefarious secret black ops activities. And now we have the Ukraine war, which has kind of propped up. But Donald Trump did spend a lot on the military. And according to Mike Johnson, it was essentially Donald Trump that recently helped pass this larger Ukraine military spending bill, essentially making a larger loan component. Trump was kind of bragging about this a little bit as well. A lot of people saw this as something that raised a lot of

questions about what his kind of politicking behind the scenes is. What did you make of that kind of larger move since Mike Johnson and Lindsey Graham are kind of congratulating him on allowing Ukraine to now have 60 billion dollars from us? So, look, from a political standpoint, Trump's in an almost impossible position. He's trying to win the presidency and he's also trying so the Republicans don't lose the House. What do we have, like a one seat majority, two seat majority? So shrinking soon. I understand from a policy perspective why the conservative movement the MAGA movement is so ticked off about ukraine and everything else but what is trump

going to do go out and blow up mike johnson in the in the world stage and lose the majority and then we have no levers in government until november like we have to build we have to figure out a way to build on that and what i keep telling people i told people was it last night in north carolina gop was we and i'm speaking for us the maga movement can't be 100 100 of the time like there's gonna have to be a give and take and i i do think there is a there's probably a lot of fear with if the republicans do lose the house majority that thin line democrats are going to go nuclear against trump right now right and that's that's the brilliant part of it, right?

They are egging us on to try to oust the next Speaker of the House so that we lose in November the House of Representatives. Did you like Mike Johnson as a Speaker? Did you think he was a good choice? I thought at the time he was a really good choice. I've known Mike a long time. Would you have rather had Kevin McCarthy? No, absolutely not for jordan yeah

for me politically jim jordan would have been an interesting choice i think jim jordan would be the best in that position but politically speaking though if the funding wouldn't have happened for ukraine the whole conflict would have blown up in the democrats face and everyone would be pointing the fingers at the democrats at joe biden for failing and creating another afghanistan and then and then trump would have that larger political victory being like, look at these guys, look at the mess that they caused in Ukraine. Look how they screwed these people over.

We didn't give them, given them an inch here. They're the ones that prolong this war. They're the ones that, that made it that much longer instead of, you know, just kind of capitulating a little bit. I thought politically that would be the more advantageous move to make.

I mean, there's, I'm sure there's a few different ways to have sliced it, but we keep getting Republican rhinos, and I forget the guy's name in upstate New York, who literally resigned the day before there could be another special election to backfill that seat on purpose. So Trump's got to, he's thinking like three-dimensional chess.

I got to counter that. And the next person that might think to do that in June or July. Well, to be fair, I think I think we're on like the sixth dimension of Trump's chess playing now. Yeah. Well, I can't memes have escalated. Yeah, it's getting complicated. It's just complicated. I do want to say one fact to your audience, though, that when I was chief of staff at DOD, this was the one thing that was just like blew my mind. Soany not 1945 germany 2024 germany do you know how many bases we have in germany and do you know how much of the economy the us dod budget in germany is i know it's a lot today we are five percent of their freaking gdp wow of germany's gdp the number one economy in europe we never stopped we never stopped occupying them it's what are we like I'm all

for having troops overseas but that's ridiculous how many troops do we have in Germany do you know the full number over 55,000 do you know how many we have in South Korea 30 something 34,000 what like I'm all for having our troops Korea is different

it's a very important country we all respect it but you guys were talking about like, the UD budgets and everything and the way you trim this. And look, I'm all for having the most gangster operation

when it comes to national security, but we got to trim. Bring them home. Bring the troops home. That's what Rand Paul ran on and that's why he was able to get more support from the military

than any other presidential candidate when he ran. I just Googled it. This is from February 2nd, 2024. And it says there's 35K in Germany. That's wrong. 24K in South Korea. Yeah.

53K in Japan. Yep. We occupied these countries and we never left. Never left. And I want to stress this. Japan was defeated in World War II. The U.S. occupied Japan and never left. There's a whole division. The 3rd

Marine Division was based out of Okinawa. So it's a whole division. There's only three Marine Divisions. There's Camp Lejeune, there's 29 Palms in Southern California, and there's Okinawa. Now it's not, I think they've moved

the 3rd Marine Division. I don't think it's there now. But for a long time. For the longest time, the whole division. At a certain point, I'm like, yeah the 3rd Marine Division. I don't think it's there now. But for a long time. For the longest time. The whole division. At a certain point, I'm like, yeah, we can leave Germany. Like the Iron Curtain has fallen. Let's accept this number. Okay, maybe, can we have like 5,000 there?

Do we need 30? Do we need any? I mean, don't all international military bases ultimately need? How about we don't need none? How about zero? I'm going to go on my own island on this one. We need some because we can't operate the national security platform in this modern day world if we don't have any of our guys on the ground in certain locations doing America.

So Asia. Who's going to spy on Angela Merkel? Angela Merkel deserves to be spied on like she was previously before by the U.S. intel agencies. I agree. I don't know about those numbers, but I agree. But, Phil. Well, it is a good point there. Like one of the problems that we had before 9-11 was the fact that we had no human intelligence.

There was no context. There weren't people in like in those places that you could talk to. Like there was nobody, nobody for the State Department to actually discuss like any kind of policy or anything like that. Or like find out who knew what. That's why it took so long to get bin Laden. There was no human intelligence. So there's an argument. Bin Laden? What?

I got questions about that. You want to talk Neptune's fear? Let's go down the rabbit hole. I'm all in on it. They just changed the story five times, and he was on kidney dialysis. So anyways, like, so, but like, you know, like the, there is an argument that there is

a use for the military to have some kind of context, but you don't need to have a full, like the full like US military in military bases with the amount of air power that the US has with the capabilities of the Navy and stuff that we have, we can reach most places.

I understand, you know, inside Asia is really, like Asia is a big continent. I get that there are limitations. But still, like we don't need to have military bases all over the world. Can I just ask a question real quick? What? How many foreign military bases are there in the United States? None. I mean, unless you count the Chinese FBI or the Chinese police station.

Don't forget those in the farmland they're buying in North Dakota or wherever else. Right. Outside of that. It's insane. I'm looking like we got troops in Italy. Oh, Italy. We got some nice shops in Italy. I've been to them.

12,400 in Italy. Sweet deal. It's wild to think that the U.S. has military bases in other people's countries. It's crazy to think. We are effectively their, we are the world police. I just, I bases in other people's countries. It's crazy to think. We are effectively the world police. I just, I'm not a fan of it. Well, I agree with you and we should stop it, but there is at least,

at least it makes sense to address the reason why, which is nuclear nonproliferation. The point was to deter other countries from developing nuclear weapons. And it's not, we're not in that world anymore and i get it and we need to stop thinking like the cold war but at the very least to talk about why so that way the people that are listening understand why because most people don't think of things in a cold war mentality nowadays anymore or they're unfamiliar with it so to just

say oh the u.s military is in a bunch of bases around the world people don't know what the thought process was and they don't understand why. And they don't understand that the point was to not have every country get nuclear weapons and therefore increase the chances of nuclear war. Where do we actually need bases? Oh, your mic's off. Your mic's off.

Surge. Surge. I feel like I'm being oppressed as a woman. I just have to say it. No, I'm just kidding. So where do we actually need bases? Like, why are we in Germany? Do we actually need to be there?

What's critical for national defense? So we need, we need them all over the world. We just don't need as many. So where? Where do we need them? Well, they're in Germany because of the larger policies against Russia. I mean, we keep, I mean, we keep them in places like Japan, Korea, Germany. We keep them in spots in the Middle East.

And then which ones do you close down? It's just a selection process. Like, you know, I'm not going to go out there and say you close down Germany. We need them in spots in the Middle East. And then which ones do you close down? It's just a selective process. I'm not going to go out there and say you close down Germany. We need some bases there. But which ones do we close, though? That's where I'm on my own island. You can't close the entire operation of any one place. You want to cut it, but also you can't close

them? Yeah, cut it. You just reduce them? I feel like you should just close some of them. Do you really need all of them? Oh, you're saying every base. No, yeah, there's tons you can close, but you can't close any one country is what I'm saying. You can't be like, Japan, we're gone. But we could. That's my opinion.

I don't think you could do that. But you can close a lot of them and shut them down and save a ton of taxpayer money. I mean, this is a collision course that people say, oh, now you're anti-military. I'm like, okay, that's funny. But what Congress needs to do is come in and stop the government growth of these agencies. They go to Congress every year. And I've worked on the Hill. And they say, oh, we're doing so well, we need a thousand more billets, a thousand more employees.

And every year over the last 50 years, this is how this growth has happened in DOD land, in intel land, in whatever. And you need it to pare back. I didn't know we had an Air Force base here. Where is this? Ilha Terseria? It's our vacation spot, you know? Oh, the Azores. Yeah, the Azores.

Dude, you gotta see Diego Garcia. Here's today's military showing military bases for Europe and Asia. We have nothing in France. We've got a lot in Germany. This makes sense. And then let's head over to the Pacific, and we can pull up every single.

And then there's also Guam as well, of course. Oh, we've got a Coast Guard base. Is that Guam? Yeah, Coast Guard base. That way you have a place to get a tan. That doesn't look nearly as dramatic as I remember it looking last time I looked at all the U.S. military bases. But when you look at the military industrial complex, it's not just bases that are kind of key

issues of concern. They have the American taxpayer in a stranglehold. There's so much pork. There's so much waste. When we look at what Halliburton did to the American soldiers in Iraq under the leadership of Dick Cheney, it is absolutely criminal what they did to our American U.S. soldiers.

The military industrial complex with their blank contracts are literally ripping off their American taxpayer, screwing over the U.S. military. And we are paying them top dollar for what? When we're finding out that a lot of the times they rip us off. So just giving them a blank check. I think this is one of the key issues that I think Donald Trump absolutely needs to address since under his administration he was expanding the military. There needs to be

larger accountability. There needs to be larger people coming in and being like, hey, stop ripping off the American taxpayer. We had enough. Stop wasting our money. Well, the good news is the Space Force is only in the U.S. Dude, the Space Force is awesome. Were you still on somehow? What did they work it on

Space Force was the one they were putting in Colorado then there was a push to put it in Alabama we actually put it in Alabama under President Trump because it's a strategic move but this is something the Biden administration reversed they moved it back to Colorado so basically it's another defense industrial complex land grab

we wanted it in a strategic location for reasons that Space Force needed to be in a geographic location that's not colorado and alabama came up and it was good it was viable it was a good option it was a good pick and then they came in and said nope we're not spending money there we're spending money before with with um the wildlife services right we're supposed to have a headquarters in colorado and then by the way she's like no they should be in D.C. with the rest of us. We're not a bureaucratic state. I want to give a shout out to the Space Force

because it really helps exemplify what we were up against politically. When Space Force was announced, there was an image someone posted wearing their uniform and it was green. And then all of these liberals online started making fun of the space force saying

why are they wearing jungle camo if they're space force and then someone actually made a space suit that looked like outer space with stars and it's like a holy crap moment because you're like these people were legitimately serious in making fun of trump and the Trump administration because Space Force personnel were wearing ground based camouflage. And the question was, OK, first, do you think that if Space Force personnel end up fighting in outer space, they will be adrift outside of a spaceship? So they need you to second BD use. So someone actually made a uniform that looked like outer space.

Like second. Okay. First, if they are in outer space, they will be in spaceships. And in the event they're ejected from that spaceship for some reason, we want to be able to find them. So they wouldn't be wearing all black.

And, uh, they legitimately were criticizing. I, and my favorite response was, do and my favorite response was do you think space for do you think someone said do you think space conflict will be a bunch of people floating around in space shooting at each other no and and they they used it as a attack point because donald trump launched space force not anybody else djt did it and in his administration the reason we did it and the reason he did it, and I think it's the right move today,

is because space is where we are getting our asses kicked by the Chinese and the Russians. And they are literally, if you want to attack America, you do it through space and you do it underwater. And the fact that we don't have enough resources focused on that threat and that DJT made the decision to do it was one that probably everyone wanted to do. But like everything else since he did it, it was a bad idea. Let's make fun of the uniforms. I mean, ridiculous like that.

And now they're doubling down. And Space Force is one of the only branches that actually meets its recruiting levels, right? All the other branches are struggling. It's basically, you know, special forces are OK. The Marines are OK most of the time. And that Space Force, because I think, to be fair, it is something people are really interested in.

It's a new frontier. It has a similar aspect to when we were, you know, launching rockets back in the day. But I agree with you. I think that's what felt so petty about being like Alabama has this contract. We're going to put it here. And the Biden administration being like, no, Colorado, because we decided it seemed like just something to spite. And because Alabama is a red state and Colorado is governed by a Democrat right now. It's all politics.

Right. It's not about progress. It's about a victory in our now. It's all politics. Right. It's not about progress. It's about a victory in our pocket. And we reverse it. Right. And wasting time. Yeah. So I don't want to I don't want to derail the conversation, but we've been talking about

like military expenditures and stuff like that. And that that kind of like those kind of payouts, like they really don't have a massive effect on the debt and the and the national debt. And that's the greatest threat to the U.S. right now is the national debt, because that's the greatest threat to the U S right now is the national debt, because you're going to blow up the dollar. The economy is going to go in the toilet. And I know Donald Trump doesn't want to talk about social security, but that's the biggest driver, unfunded liabilities,

like the mandatory spending. What are we going to do about that? Because if we don't do something about like we're spending more on interest than we are on military spending, you know what I every year a hundred every hundred days another trillion dollars is added to the debt and a trillion seconds ago was 30 000 years before christ just so people get a little bit of perspective on it 30 000 years before christ is one trillion seconds ago we're adding a trillion dollars to the debt every hundred days and we have have no plan to fix it. And that is the most immediate existential threat to the United States. Does he have a plan? Trump does. I'm not going to unveil it. Trump for sure has a plan. I'm also

going to tell you, I'm not the economist. I'm like the only Indian that sucks at math. So I went the other route and did national security intel stuff. But I agree with you. It's not sexy. So people don't talk about it. They're just like, whatever. And also, the answers are all ugly. Yeah. To be honest with you.

And Americans are not financially literate. No, they can't even. I mean, I don't fault them for this, but they have massive credit card debt. It's very difficult. They're fine with the Chinese owning our debt. Because they don't understand debt. They don't understand how to leverage it. They don't understand how it works.

No, you're totally right. And you can't really blame them. debt. Because they don't understand debt. They don't understand how to leverage it. They don't understand how it works. No, you're totally right. You can't really blame them. They're more immediately concerned with how do I take care of my family right now? Which they should be. Which is fine, but you're right. The president needs to come in and address that. And I have seen President Trump's plan for it, and I think it's pretty awesome.

And the way that Trump can communicate with people is he can really, if he has a good plan, he can sell it, but he's if he has a good plan he can sell it yeah but he's got to have the good have a good plan that's actually going to fix it I haven't heard anybody that's made something that's really you know sounds reasonable like it'll actually fix the problem that isn't going to be undone as soon as a democrat I think you would have heard more about it but to Tim's point earlier um that normally it's the economy economy economy in election cycles and I disagree with him a little bit. I think it's all border.

And then people are starting to think about the economy. For the first time ever, people are like, I got to think about this. It's amazing. You're right, though. To clarify, there's two metrics and there's two ways to look at it. Gallup basically did a breakdown and they said, among all economic issues, when you ask, is the economy the issue? It's number one. And then for singular issues, the border is number one.

Depending on how you look at it, the economy actually means a bunch of different things. Because Gallup actually broke it down. We're talking about homelessness. We're talking about wages. We're talking about rent. We're talking about, can I afford a home? Those are all different things within the economy.

Immigration, I'd argue, actually is a component of the economy as well, because we're wondering about this homelessness. So if you were to remove the idea of general economy and ask someone, are you concerned about wages? Nowhere near immigration. Immigration is the top singular issue. It is because it's affecting every single community in America, right? They pulled the bandaid off three years ago and they said, the Biden administration said, there's no invasion, there's no national security crisis down there, and the mainstream media lied for two years. And now that it has literally flooded the country and Americans are unfortunately seeing its tragic impact, for instance, CCP fentanyl killed 100,000 people last year. That in and of itself is a national crisis. The FBI director and the

DHS secretary came out to Congress three months ago and said we caught at least two dozen known foreign terrorists and we let them go and we don't know where they are today. Which means they don't know the real number and we have people coming in across the border and doing unfortunately tragic criminality

like killing Lincoln Raleigh. And in my hometown of Vegas, two guys got murdered just literally walking down the street by an illegal alien. Elderly women are getting raped. This happened in West Virginia. Yeah. Yeah.

It's huge news because crime in West Virginia is slightly above half of the national average, meaning it's like 56% of the national average. You expect to be safe. People here are armed. And an illegal immigrant in Charlestown, he killed an old lady. Is that what it was? it was what was that story it was she wasn't that old I mean I thought she was in her 40s but middle aged woman

middle aged woman like the thing is it's also small town vibes right like someone who is not from here comes in commits violence and can just escape that was the problem with Lake and Riley which is that he was known to be in the country illegally he had a previous criminal history in other states.

And they were sort of like, we don't know what to do. Well, because the mainstream media and the Biden administration, the Democrats for years had said there's no criminal problem. It's fine to be an illegal alien. And it's part of their process to inject another rig job into an election by allowing, what is it, 10 plus million people so far, half of them are getting voter IDs, people are getting hotel rooms. No, right.

You don't even know the number, that's the sad part and that's what it took though for america in the world to pay attention to donald trump's effective policies on the border and to say he was right the entire time i'd love to uh ask him about the help america vote verification system you saw that story i just i think it'll be too in the in the weeds for him as an individual yeah i i probably i'll probably try just mention it to him but this is probably something for someone who's working on his campaign. This is for those that don't know. You know, I wish there was wait, the Social Security Administration showing a million plus people without IDs trying to register and we don't have a clear answer as to what this is.

It could be voter roll cleanup. Fine. Sure. Whatever. That would be an abuse of the system. Fine. Sure. Whatever. Some people are concerned. it's non-citizens being given work permits. And then when they're granted tax ID numbers, TINs or social security numbers for the purpose of work permits, someone, be it they themselves or NGOs or the federal government are registering them. We don't know. I'm content to say it must be voter roll cleanup, an abuse of the H.A.V.V. system as per their own rules. But maybe that's it. Great. We need an inquiry. This should be looked into because in the event it's not, we need to deal with it now before November. No, you're right. In my home state, Nevada, it's again, it's not sexy. It's like the debt. Like people are like, oh, who wants to register voters? Who wants to go clean the voter scrolls?

And I'm like, no, I agree with you. So we actually filed lawsuits in Nevada last week to do just that. And the Democrats are challenging it. Of course, to track the H.A.V.V. To clean the voter rolls, as you're saying, like make sure dead people aren't on it. Make sure people that are on it are of age and are legal and vote and all that. I agree with that for sure. But I'm very concerned about what we're seeing with the Help America vote verification system. Notably, February 17th of this year in Missouri,

let's call it Missouri, 78,421 attempted registrations for people with no IDs. Twenty three thousand were dead. So twenty three thousand are dead. And the response was that it's voter roll cleanup. That's that's fantastic. Didn't one of the states come out and say, no, Texas. Yeah. Texas said this is this is clearly a misunderstanding of some sort these numbers are wrong so uh let me let me jump to uh texas week i think we can do like may 4th my texas reports every two weeks uh may 4th was light let's see may 18th for texas i think it might be light as well 4 000 still still decently high but if we go earlier in the year april 20th let's see where they're at with texas we've got 249 770 of which 4 600 were dead 200 000 came back as a single match alive so texas said we are not doing voter roll cleanup and these numbers are incorrect because we have

not added that many people to our voter rolls. Whatever is happening here, we need a formal inquiry. Nothing crazy. Just to be like, oh, yeah, here's where the numbers came from. Here's why they're here. And then we know. Because if we don't do that, you've already got people feeling like if it's Texas, what makes sense for Texas? They're not doing voter roll cleanup. Then where are 1. I think we're at 1.9 million people registering coming from.

Well, I know where there's a big number over the past year that reaches around those numbers of people that may be coming here. Many people believe it may be illegal immigrants being given work permits. And then the NGOs just submit that for our voter registration because there's a social security number attached to it. I don't know that's true. All I know is this is the kind of thing that has people freaked out, especially the 30,000 dead in Missouri. And we want to know we want to know formally and officially what it is. Texas comes out and says, we don't know what that number is. If Texas and Missouri, if Trump wins every swing state and Texas and Missouri by narrow margins flip, Trump loses.

Oh, yeah. Overnight. And, you know, this is the thing that I've been trying to tell people about for the last, like, I don't know, five years now. State attorney generals and state secretaries of state control these issues. And that is why people are like, oh, how come we didn't fix this federally? I'm like, you can't fix it federally. It's impossible. You have to rely on these state AGs to bring lawsuits to clean voter rolls. It's not cool. It's not fun. It's not the thing that gets headlines.

But that's why I was yelling at Republican state AGs to be like, why aren't you prosecuting Hunter Biden in, say, Missouri for committing crimes? And the Democrats would do it overnight. But it's the same thing, whether it's the voter thing or the criminality thing, the state AGs, for the most part, have been very quiet on the Republican side. And I literally have no idea why. I don't know. Do you think it's like election concerns? Because with all of this, like, you know, it really matters who's in our voter rolls. It matters who's in our country. And I think there is a level of people don't want to talk about the issues that they think might risk

it. Like for me, I think we should talk about the border. I think we should talk about the effect of illegal immigration. But I do think we should have a conversation about reducing the pathways for legal immigration because they become abuse like chain migration. If someone were to cross into the border illegally, you know, have a child here, I think we should end birthright citizenship. You could then use that person to sponsor tons of people. We should limit it maybe to an immediate family. But when you start talking about it, it's very easy for a Republican to get labeled as like a heartless person. You separate families. You're me. You're hurting the American dream. It's sort of to me, it seems like it's a question of, well, maybe I can stay in office and do better. Like that, that risk assessment is coming up with stay quiet when it really should be encouraging them to be bold in what they're doing. And that's a example of what D.C. does to everything, right?

They will overcorrect and mislabel. And then when a guy like you or a guy like you or a guy like me comes out and says, hey, yeah, we want to address immigration, you're a racist. Like, that's the response, right? No, we're going to stop the entire conversation, right? That's the whole point. That's what I find interesting about Donald Trump. It really has encouraged people to talk about illegal immigration, especially the border.

That's great. That's really important. And I think then the next step is to talk about our legal immigration system. Is there a thing? Are there things we can be doing to ensure that Americans are the priority for our government? And we're not just looking towards outside migration to solve our problem. But you can't say that because you're you know that you're not. Well, I'm just saying that's what they're doing. towards outside migration to solve our problem. But you can't say that because you're, you know, you're not a Democrat. No, no, no. I'm just saying that's what they're doing. During the presidential debates here at the Libertarian Party Convention, they had a conversation on immigration because the because the Libertarian Party is cut down the middle between open

borders and closed borders factions. Really? I didn't know that. Yep. And so there's one guy who's running. And I suppose by the time this airs, we'll know who the presidential pick is. But for the time being, we're recording it in the morning. We don't know.

And one guy said it's for Ellis Island style immigration. And then someone else basically called him and said, you're basically saying open borders or not. And then it's open borders. The Ellis Island style immigration is the soft way of saying open borders. Meaning anyone can come. We stamp their form, hand it to them, say, welcome to america you are free to live and work and do as you please which may be you know you go back here's the funny half the libertarian party supports them i don't i don't know if half or like but it's been a long-running debate yes the open borders

versus closed borders fact really i didn't know that yeah so uh but the mises caucus won and they're i believe mises caucus is closed borders. Yeah. So, I know a little bit about the Ellis Island system, right? I looked it up. It didn't work. So, in the late 1800s, they had states handled immigration to their states, and the federal government said, it's not that much. We're not worried about it. Once the number reached around half a million a year, they said, we need a federal way of controlling for this and tracking this more properly. So they created the Ellis Island system. People would come on boats.

They process and say, you're good to go. This was about a half a million people per year for, I think, 60 years or maybe less, actually. But I think it might have been way less than that, actually. And so after this, they said, hey, wait a minute. We're having serious problems because the number just keeps going up. The better America does, the more people want to come here. We can't do it this way. We need to better control the system. Going back in time to the way we did at Ellis Island does not account for the fact that you've got, what, at any given moment, 20 plus million who want to come here. And so I was actually talking to a libertarian guy and I was like,

I agree with Trump. Trump said he said something like all of the immigrants of the world, all of them, they can come here legally. You got to come here legally. Legally means there will be a set number. It'll be restricted. There'll be assistance with integration. But there are people here at the party who think, stamp them, come on in. Here's your ID. I can't believe that. That just blows my mind.

This is what they're doing now. This is literally the Biden administration's plan. It's the rubber stamp, welcome to America. And you've got the black community in Chicago saying, and I quote, we are being replaced. Kind of wild to hear that coming from Chicago. Especially illegal immigration, but a lot of immigration that we're encouraging right now hurts people who are in impoverished situations or in inner cities. So it's not like the Biden

administration is doing anyone they claim to be supporting any favors by encouraging a really broad open door policy. And I think it's ultimately this weird bandaid solution, right? We hear this all the time, you know, oh, well, the birth rates are low, but it's OK because we can have immigration from other places. Not only is that bad for American culture, which I think is something like you have to live here, be a part of, actively contribute to. But it's also saying to the American people, like, we don't actually think you're that important. We'd actually rather replace you. Like, what is that kind of leadership and why would you vote? It's the new rig job, right? Traditionally, for the last three decades, the Democrats have gone

out and bought the minority vote. And you're talking to a son of lawful immigrants whose family literally fled a dictatorship, moved here with nothing and then did it the right way and then watch their son rise up to work for Donald Trump, which is pretty cool. But that's what the American dream should be. That's our culture. That's what I tell people. People are like, oh, you're against illegal immigration. I'm like, yeah, I am. Because one, you don't represent me.

Two, you bought our votes when we were younger and lied about it. And now the movement, since we've exposed that through Donald Trump, is, okay, we can't buy the minorities anymore. We're going to buy the illegal vote. And that's what they're doing. This is why 25,000 people showed up in Cretona Park. It's unheard of. It's literally 99% black and Hispanic. They booed AOC. And they booed AOC.

Yeah. Because they've, you nailed it. They exposed the flank that is minorities were being bought by the Democratic Party for votes. Now they've done nothing for them. Crime is surging. And now the Democrats are replacing the minorities with illegals, not just in terms of jobs, but because they need votes, because the minorities are now no longer voting for Democrats. They're all voting for DJ. They want a subservient, compliant voter class. And I think that's horrendous. This is something that we should be opposed to and exposed for what it is. Right. 100 percent. Yep. Well, they're taking away their social services as well which has a lot of

people in the black community kind of asking the question why don't you kind of care about me but it seems like every four years they're like hey uh you know we'll pander to you here just for your vote and they keep giving it to them here's the best part about this every four years the reparations question comes up the The Democrats say, why are we getting reparations? And whenever they win power, literally it goes nowhere. It's pandering and manipulation. But now not only are they not promising reparations, they're going to the inverse. And you got a viral video where a black man walks up to his community center, which is full of illegal immigrants, and he's screaming at the police, why have you taken our community center away from us? Democrats now are basically saying,

we're done pandering to you. Now we're throwing it right in your face. We don't care about you anymore. That's crazy. You know, they say that Donald Trump is going to get, what's he polling at? 23% in the black community. If that's true, we heard this in 2020 right if it's true if it's true they uh the estimates are that the democrats cannot win if that number if their support ever drops below 80 percent if trump really is pulling at 23 and he really does get it it's impossible for him to lose uh i think right if those stats if those numbers are true and i would add one thing and they never do in the right states right in the states that states that that vote, Matt, like California, it's irrelevant. I'm not saying the minority vote is irrelevant. I'm saying California is irrelevant for electoral purposes. And I remind people, though, that the single state that had the largest number number of votes for Donald J. Trump in the last election was the state of California. And we are still never going to win California in our lifetime unless something changes. But places like putting New York into play,

and this is kind of the sheer backfiring of the Democratic mission to take out Trump via prosecution. I don't know that he would ever have campaigned this much in New York City. But now he's in New York City. He's on the Jersey Shore with 110,000 people. He's in Cortona Park and he's going to keep going.

And he figured out a way to say, oh, you're going to gag me. OK, well, I'm just going to campaign from the courtroom with my surrogates. And then I'm going to take this show on the road in New York. And then unbelievable with all the media attention. You might. Oh, my gosh. Oh, I got to keep my hands off the table. The mainstream media. Yeah. No one's going to show up in this.

They were like, oh, he's having this rally because he thought he'd be in court. But now, you know, whatever. It's like they can't acknowledge that he's doing something democrats should have done which is go to the bronx right like the democrats take the bronx for granted they think you're gonna vote for us no matter what we need to be here wasn't it roger snowman i saw this tweet from him that was like the last republican to come here was ronald reagan and he won like 84 yeah isn't that important should we acknowledge that there is diversity of thought there instead of just treating them like the Democrats do and being like, well, you're in the bag and there's nothing you can do about it? Yeah. So to add on to your guys's point, like if the minority and the black vote comes through for Donald Trump in places like that, like if he takes New York, game over.

Like New York and New Jersey, like the electoral map just exploded against the Democrats. And, you know, they can win California all day long and the rest of the swing states don't even matter because the number of electoral votes in New York. And so I think, but you're seeing it metastasize. The same thing's happening in Minnesota and Michigan. And this is why Joe Biden, again, is pandering to the pro-Hamas movement overseas. A foreign terrorist organization is being propped up

by this administration to purchase votes in Arab-rich Michigan and Minnesota. foreign terrorist organization is being propped up by this administration to purchase votes in um arab rich michigan and minnesota but you're seeing it backfire there too this is why um donald trump is going out to michigan and minnesota to the minority communities it's basically the bronx over there for that specific tile of minority and he's winning them over because he's exposing the exact same thing he's like the democrats are coming here and becoming here to buy your vote is your life better right now are your communities safe how's your kids housing and education going and do you feel like you can have a future in this country and the minorities are saying wait a second we were

actually maybe better off where we came from for the first time in like forever yeah it's crazy i think this is the big cultural shift that I think especially progressive media didn't want to ever come to, right? They never wanted to acknowledge that they were just paying lip service to things that they said. Whereas like you have a strong cultural understanding

of like what it means to be American, especially like, you know, your parents came here a lot. My parents are immigrants. I know Luke can talk to you about this too. Like when you are like, I believe in the system, I'm going to uproot my life. I'm going to leave something behind

because I believe there's something better and you work for it. It's very, very different than being told like, don't worry, we'll just give it to you and your life will get better. And I think that mentality is, it shows such a difference between the right and left in this country.

And I think it's ultimately obvious to everyone that one is not sustainable and it's not moving. Here's a wild thought experiment, right? Look at all of the groups that are coalescing behind Donald Trump now because of what he's exposed, the corruption.

You want people on accountability. People want a better America. But if Donald Trump were president right now, would all of this have ever been exposed, right? Like if he went back to back terms, right? I don't know, maybe, right? But he'd be running back terms. Right. I don't know. Maybe. Right. But he'd be running the country. And a lot of the people that have come out for Donald Trump would not have seen the information that has been put out there. Now, of course, I want Donald Trump to have been president then and next time.

But it's just an interesting thought process because I don't know that I would have been able to reach a lot of the communities I'm reaching right now if I didn't have the ammunition that the Biden administration has given us. Do you think that there's a benefit to having this, you know, if you know, if or when Donald Trump wins in November, he'll go in as his final term. He had like a time off period to reflect, to see what's going on. I've heard some people say, you know, actually, it'll be like four years of lame duck syndrome. But I wonder if it's actually sort of freeing because you're not trying to get reelected. You can just do anything you want, not anything you want, but like you could have a really serious impact without having to worry about how to affect campaigns are brutal. I mean, I'm not even the campaign guy. Right. And having the ability to go in there and say, I don't have to go out there and fundraise a

billion, a billion. I have to go raise a billion dollars to try to run for president United States and then fight the mainstream media and then go to every state and then host a rally and then do debates and all this other stuff. You mean I can just go govern and I have the knowledge that I had from my first administration and the interim four years and I can put personnel and policies in place and I can just go, you know, Donkey Kong in D.C.? I think it's gonna be pretty cool. And I think and I hope that's what he's going to do. Yeah, this is definitely a make or break moment, not just for Donald Trump or for this country as well. There's always these kind of two larger factions

within the Trump administration and the Trump camp. There's the kind of Marco Rubio, Nikki Haley, John Bolton, Bill Barr, Anthony Fauci, Gina Haspel, Jared Kushner, kind of neocon establishment side. And on the other side, you have people like Roger Stone, yourself, Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn, Trump Jr., Vivek Ramaswamy that represent kind of the America first side. Which side do you think is stronger now? And is there anything that we

could do to help spur on more of these kind of freedom caucus populist representatives inside of a potential Trump administration? Is there anything we could do from the outside pushing more for these populist policies? I think what you're seeing is people in these other groups paying attention more than they ever have to non-mainstream media outlets. And for me, that's the most important. Your show here is like one of the most powerful shows

that has impacted communities with actual truth. And that's why I'm able to go out there and say, oh, you stop watching the mainstream nonsense. And we can talk about a two tier system of justice. We can talk about defense budgeting. We could talk about who and when and why the Washington, D.C. establishment is so corrupt. And that message alone has empowered DJT, I think, to one, make the decision to come on your show, which I thought was brilliant, and to speak to an audience base that has never been spoken to before and pull them in and say, what are some of your values?

We're not going to be able to get you 100%, but maybe we pick up on a couple of things you guys care about along the way. And that's what's bringing it together. Two big things for this show. First time we had Marjorie Taylor Greene on, we were inundated with comments and emails from people saying, I had never heard Marjorie Taylor Greene speak before. I thought she was crazy. And Marjorie came on and talked about how Congress is corrupt and broken and things she's trying to do. Bannon,

same exact thing. First time Bannon came on, wave of comments from people being, I've never heard this guy talk before. And I thought he was crazy. And they were like, he kind of sounds like an Occupy Wall Street guy. And I'm like, he does. It's remarkable that Bannon can go in front of a bunch of MAGA Trump supporters and say, tax the rich. It's unbelievable. It's populist. And I think, you know, I don't I believe that most people who are watching this are regular people who have who got pulled into politics because the Democratic Party went nuts. And these are people who probably went to the, not everybody. I know there's a lot of libertarians who watch a lot of Trump supporters who

have been conservative for a long time, but I do know there's a lot of people that are, that it's, it's really simple. We found that our biggest audience is Chicago. Is it really? Yeah. I mean,

it's hometown advantage over there. Well, yeah, it is. It's, it's spread out. Oh, right.

Right. It's, it's spread across the country. And so the, it's, so it's spread out oh right it's it's spread across the country and so that it's so it's fairly even but there's a slightly higher percentage coming from chicago than anywhere else so the plurality despite the fact that it's fairly even is chicago and i thought you know that really makes sense i'm from chicago i have moderate chicago sensibilities chicago doesn't have a republican party like it does yeah but so if you are if you're in chicago

there's only democrats to vote for or unaffiliated which is just democrat and if you are someone who is critical of their failed policy over the past hundred years you're still a relatively liberal guy but you are sick of the corruption you see coming from the democratic party with this uniparty rule in this one place i think a lot of people watching this show probably feel similarly to, I'm not a Republican, I didn't grow up conservative. The Democrats have gone insane. The Republican Party sucks. Trump represents something different. And that lane has never been built before, in my opinion, and it's never had a leader like DJT in that little lane. And what the Democrats and mainstream media are coming in and doing now, in my opinion,

is trying to blockade that lane and label it and say, if you're in this lane and you've never been a Republican or a Democrat before and you support Trump, you're a domestic terrorist. You're a terrible person. No, literally. No, no, no. That's what they're saying. They've literally said those MAGA supporters are domestic terrorists.

Like people are like, Casper, there's a hit piece on me every week in whatever publication you want. And it's like Kasper tells a MAGA extremist. I'm like, what does that mean? Like, I want a closed border. I don't want drugs in the community. I want law enforcement to do well. And I want America to be a bad person and no one should listen to you. But the point. Yeah, exactly. But they're labeling people. And the fact that they're labeling these new people that are coming into politics who have never been there, that literally like I had a guy come in for pest control last week and he goes, dude, I have never even voted in my life ever before. I'm going DJT all the way. We didn't even talk politics.

He just said this. Oh, no, dude, I got one. He doesn't know anything about you. And he's like, I just got to open the door with this. Then he Googled it. Had my name. He's like, oh, crap. That's hilarious.

I'm in a shuttle bus in Chicago going to the airport, going from the from the airport to the shuttle buses. Come on now. I'm going to from the car rental place to the airport is a shuttle bus. And it's just me and my girlfriend and bus driver. And he's like a young black guy. And he just goes, who y'all voting for? And I was like, best polling you can get. And I was like, literally, before I could say anything, I like well i think and he goes just say it donald trump and

i started laughing i was like are you for real dude i was like i was like yeah i was gonna say donald trump i wasn't gonna just scream donald trump like like you did i was gonna say something more like you know i'm probably gonna vote for donald trump i think or actually i'm voting for donald trump and it's because of you know i was gonna give him a long answer he just said just say it just say it but you made a very chic going to give him a long answer. He just said, just say it. Just say it. But you made a very good point, Cash, because all the power we gave to the government to stop terrorists is essentially being used to terrorize us. And they did it under the Bush neoconservative kind of regime that kind of set up this national security state that we're fighting up against. I want to ask you this question because I think it's an important one, especially when it comes to picking the next vice president of the United States.

Tim Pool. There's been a lot of conversations, you know, silly conversations about, you know, Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones. But outside of that, there is some serious consideration with Marco Rubio. He does represent that kind of Bush neocon faction. Is there anyone that you particularly are vying for

to be the next VP yourself? Those exact conversations I'll keep between me and the boss, but I will publicize the following. What I told him was, honestly, sir, I almost don't care who you pick as long as you don't pick the following. And what I don't want is a repeat Mike Pence. What I don't want is someone who is running your administration for Intel and DOD and counterterrorism and all this stuff to get an order from you to go back into your White House to fight 7000 people and slow down your order. Don't pick someone who's going to be auditioning to be POTUS in four years.

And there are folks like that out there. There are the Ben Carson types out there that i think you can go to that are maybe a little quieter and not as sexy of a pick and so to me what i told the boss was i'm sure everyone's going to be yelling at him for the next two months while he decides i think he's already picked who he's going to pick that's just my opinion i've heard rumors um but to me it's more important that he doesn't pick someone who's gonna like people like before nicki haley uh you know was going sideways they were like oh you got to pick her as VP and I was like no don't pick her and and you can't and there's also the issue with Marco it's nothing personal against Marco but the 15th amendment issue is real with Marco Rubio which most people

don't even know about you can't have a VP and president from the same state. Like it's a legitimate constitutional thing. So he'd have to do a whole host of things and move and stuff like that for that to be a real consideration. He's also the intel kind of establishment rhino as his VP, that the system is going to be more incentivized than ever and probably carry out procedures to try to take him out immediately as soon as he takes office. So I think it would be advantageous for him, from my political understanding, to get someone who's an outsider, to get someone who's anti-establishment, who scares the establishment more than Donald Trump to safeguard his position in power. No, is it a 15th.

I might be wrong on the number, but there's an amendment that specifically states your vice president, president cannot be from the same state. Maybe it's like 17 or whatever. I'm not the constitutional genius. So no math, no constitution. Yeah. Well, you know, you know, since we're going back to my public defender prosecutor days, some constitution, some actually that's been like my driving force.

I think that's what 12th 12th. There you go. What's caused so much of this popularity in a lot of these other sectors that we've been talking about in the communities is no one has paid attention to constitutional due process before. They're like, whatever. I don't care. And the people that have been destroyed by the constitutional unconstitutional due process

have been minorities. And Donald Trump's coming in and exposing and saying, I'm going to help you. And I did help you with this Crime Rest restoration acts and helping minorities in the past administration. I think it's it's just a huge confluence of events. But that's why they have to label him like this extremist who hates everybody. It's foreign or whatever it is, because like if if Democrat Party, which is market itself, is like we're the party of minority voters, reveals that they have not actually done them any favors, that they are really threatening their reputation going forward. And they already seem to be fairly dysfunctional. I mean, the idea that like Donald Trump actually has inroads is something they can't face because

it's something they pretended they were, you know, the champions for so long. Yeah, they owned them. And it's just like Donald Trump's presidency. Donald Trump came in not as this neocon conservative. He came in as a guy who was like, I'm going to end the forever wars. And the Democrats like, no, that's our that's our deal. He was pointing the finger at Bush and Saudi Arabia for their involvement in 9-11, which was huge. And I was like, holy cow, I can't believe Donald Trump is actually talking about this on the national stage, breaking the orthodoxy, talking about these larger truths that got everyone so energized about him.

And, you know, we need that talk more than ever now. When he said to Jeb Bush, your brother lied. Yes. About 9-11 not only that he made other kind of statements about this dude like he talked about investigating 9-11 he talked about auditing the federal reserve those are the populist kind of sentiments that that resonated with so many americans hey well the federal reserve is a whole nother deal anyway um the other thing that i put in the book that i recommended the boss to do hits on this. We need a 24-7 declassification office. Yes.

Rolling papers out 24-7. And not just like JFK and not just 9-11. You're talking to the guy that's read the whole 9-11 report and those seven pages that people talk about. But I believe as like the guy who is an intel guy who believes wholeheartedly in the classified system of information, I believe that it has been over abused by these corrupt officials in government to hide the truth and the and enact more corrupt activities so what i told the boss is like i don't care what you call truth and reconciliation whatever come up with a better name but every agency and department literally

submits all of their documentation and i believe you could get half out half. I still think the other half needs to remain classified. I'll always argue that it does serve a purpose. But like you're seeing in these documents in the Jack Smith case, they're just redacting stuff that they lied about, that they broke the law. I mean, it's used to protect themselves. And it's a public document in federal court, which is a document for the people of the United States. And we can we can have you run that office. You can come in and just be like, hey, I want all the Saudi documents.

I'll gladly do that. I'll be so happy. So Luke will be the press secretary for the Libertarian Party. The declassifying documenter. The viceroy of declassification. Absolutely. I like that.

I'm in. Where do I sign up? But I think that's how you earn the respect. Like you said, Donald Trump started talking about these things. Then we started putting these documents out there. And remember i ran russiagate right they came out they came after me and said if you put out the nunez memo and you put this out that you wrote our enemies and our allies are going to get murdered no one died do you think uh we had a don jr on

one of our callers said uh pardon assange parlin uh pardon assange ulbricht and um snowden and uh don jr said 100 we're well past the point where there's a conversation so i i don't want to speak for him too much because i can't remember exact quote but he said he said basically yes at this point do you think well do you think julian assange should be pardoned? And do you think Trump would be willing to pardon him? I don't know what the boss wants to do. We haven't had that specific conversation. Me personally, and I'm probably going to piss off a lot of people. I don't think what Assange did was pardonable. I think it was such an egregious act that screwed me in the field as an operative.

What did he do? By disclosing some pieces of information that we use operationally. Like, we had to pull a shit ton of stuff down. But he's not charged for that. No, no, right. He's not charged for that, but he's charged for espionage. Yes, I think facilitating access or something. It's basically the charge that says, you let this information out.

So, like, there's a difficult give and take for me there because same thing with Snowden, right? Just to clarify real quick, I think, I could be wrong, they say that Julian Assange assisted Bradley Manning

and that makes it not journalism. Would it have been that Assange just published information? There's nothing, but their argument is that Assange assisted the facilitation of the exportation of the the exportation of the information yeah i think i don't mean i don't know if there's a difference because it's

just getting the information out well journalists are allowed to get information out even if it pisses off the government but the argument is when you actually go into government and facilitate the right when you go in and pull it out then it's a it's it's it's the same type of crime like donald trump is charged with illegally possessing classified documents right that's what they're saying the journalists in my opinion journalists shouldn't have those classified documents what they should have is the documentation from the government that they've been withheld that exposes correction i mean assuming this stupid ai is right it's actually both it's uh not just the conspiracy to commit intrusion but also the intrusion the publication of yeah yeah so you were you were correct um i think i think the first one

publishing stuff pardon i you can't do that uh i don't whether or not he actually uh conspired with any i don't know that i believe that but yeah yeah i mean the videos though the documents that he released were for the public good for the public interest and they revealed a lot of the things that the U.S. government was lying to us about. And I think this is why it was considered an act of journalism rather than kind of an act of sabotage. And I think there's a way to lawfully do that. Like, I think there's a way for like to take the point is people now know that a lot of times the U.S. government has lied to them. Yeah. And has done stuff for their self-interest over the American citizens.

And my point to, you know, the president was when when I was like, dude, I'm the Russiagate guy. Like, I figured out the FBI lied to the world. Hillary paid for it. Like, you got to just give me like 27 seconds. Like, let's put this stuff out. And it was a monster fight to get the Nunes memo out, to get all those documents out. But there's a way to do it now that Americans know that that other stuff exists. I think President Trump's strongest point, I think he said this publicly, out but there's a way to do it now that americans know that that other stuff exists i think president trump's strongest point i think he said this publicly is like he's going to have one of these offices or commissions that puts this stuff out and everyone can request information be like hey

i want the bay of pigs information out i want the whatever documents out and i think that's the way to do it the epstein documents right well the epstein black book like on day one iran contra documents the mk ultra documents keep, that's why you're going to be the viceroy of the declassification office. There's a challenge with the Assange stuff. I can't see what evidence they have in terms of computer intrusion. I don't think you can criminally charge someone for publishing information. The newspapers all did that. I also kind of feel like it's been 12 or 13 years that the dude's been effectively in solitary.

Where is he now like high marsh prisons or something is it is that what it is belmarsh belmarsh is it belmarsh i believe so yep uh i'm kind of at the point where it's like damn like it's been a minute it's it's it yeah so even if even if there's an argument to these things i i feel like there's a lot of goodwill in just being like we're gonna drop this one this was this was it was mishandled it's it's it's poorly done he already paid his price he already was tortured in solitary confinement he already was it was serving a huge jail sentence without being found guilty so there's a lot of merit to that right it didn't happen yesterday it happened yeah a dozen years many years ago but the

the issue being that they first falsely held him on this ridiculous molestation charge which was which took him how many years to clear right and then And they dropped it and it was B.S. the whole time. And then as soon as that happens, he gets raided. My understanding I could be wrong is that Trump himself ordered Assange to be arrested from the Ecuadorian embassy. I have not heard that. Well, it did happen under his administration. And according to some sources that I've talked to, there was some kind of backroom dealings and conversations specifically about revealing sources, which Assange refused to do so. And therefore it was automatically kind of dragged out where the,

the head of the CIA, uh, you know, there was bar literally talking about assassinating and taking out, uh, you know, Julian Assange. I'll,

I'll tell you the, the, the, the theory and rumor that circulates behind the scenes is that with the WikiLeaks email, the DCCC emails, I believe it was. Yeah. And the DNC stuff. There is a question as to where Julian Assange got it from. Of course, the Seth Rich theory flies around. And Julian Assange made several statements about Seth Rich as if to imply without directly saying Seth Rich may have

been the source. Now, the corporate press, of course, says this is ridiculous. It's not true. He was just a victim of a robbery. The conspiracy theory behind the scenes. And I don't even I don't like saying conspiracy theory because this is actually people in D.C. and in the Beltway have spread this rumor. And it's a rumor that Trump wanted the information from assange as to his source of these emails because one national security interests and two it could actually prove a criminal conspiracy behind the scenes so could targeting him specifically or his administration or any of his priorities and uh the idea was go to assange and say give us the proof who this was, Seth Rich or otherwise, and you're a free man. And Assange said, never, won't do it. So then Trump said, if you don't, we're going to arrest

you and bring you to the U.S. and have you testify. And so the theory goes that Assange said, I will never reveal my sources under any circumstances. And they said, then we're going to bring you here and make you talk. So I can't speak directly to that. I wasn't involved in that. But the DNC server intrusion is probably the greatest single subject to talk about right now for all of this. Because the left-wing media put the hack on Russia so they could tie Donald Trump to Russia. Exactly. And if Trump could prove that it was not true, then he gets exonerated. But here's how deep it gets, right? For the first time that I'd ever heard in FBI history, they allowed a private entity, CrowdStrike, to go in

and exploit the DNC servers, but only whatever CrowdStrike wanted to exploit. And they never handed those servers over to the FBI. So the FBI could have exploited them and we could have had the answers. But I think it's because they knew it was not a Russian hack. And I do believe Julian Assange probably knows who did it, right? And it would have exonerated Donald Trump and the entire Russia collusion narrative. But this goes to the bigger problem in D.C. about why did James Comey allow some random software tech firm to go in there and exploit the data off the DNC firm? Do you know who the owner and CEO of CrowdStrike is?

Sean Henry. Do you know what he used to be? James Comey's assistant at the FBI. So like the whole narrative could have been destroyed. So this this is what makes the whole story kind of plausible. Donald Trump thinking about one, his personal interests, but also national security interests. Yeah. If there really is a criminal conspiracy to frame him as a Russian agent and Hillary Clinton,

someone should be prosecuted for it. And all he needed was for Julian Assange to say, my source was this. And Julian Assange would not do it because Julian Assange in for WikiLeaks, the moment he ever gives up a single source, WikiLeaks ceases to exist. So then this is where this rumor comes from there there are people who claim that they were involved in conversations related to this and i wasn't i don't know not saying you were yeah but that trump basically was like this is a guy who is is is wanted uh by the united states as it is though they he was he

there was a grand jury at the time he was still yet unindicted. And the rumor goes that Trump said if he comes here and testifies and gives us a statement, we blow the lid off of the Russiagate hoax and the people involved. You know, it's a challenge for me because I'm like, for the sake of this country,

we need that information. The other, and I'm just spiffballing here, so this is coming off the top of my head, because you got to remember who ran the FBI and DOJ, even though it was during a Trump administration. They hated Trump, right? Why didn't he fire him?

I don't know. He hired a lot of them, and we hope he doesn't hire them again. Yeah, no, personnel is a big thing. But the other way to look at it is those institutionalists, Bill Barr, Chris Wray, and all those people in between, right? They prosecuted Julian Assange to shut him up. Yeah. Right? Donald Trump had nothing to do with it. Right. They the FBI and DOJ who created Russiagate and were in on the scam.

They know who hacked the Russia, excuse me, the DNC servers, the guys and gals that have been working on that case for like six years. They have the answer. And the only way to keep it closed loop is by going out and prosecuting Julian Assange by weaponizing the system of government against your political opponents and burying that information. Trump should pardon him. I think that's more plausible. I think that information should be put out for the American public to see. Wait a second. Why don't we know who hacked the. I think the FBI knows.

We just haven't been told. But if Trump pardoned Assange. But if Trump. But if Trump. But if Trump pardons Assange. Right right there could be secret meetings uh grand jury hearings where he could kind of testify it wouldn't go public where he could say these are my sources this is the case i mean there's a whole host of ways to do that this is the argument is that assange said never under any circumstances and i'm saying he doesn't even have to i'm saying the corrupt government gangsters that rigged russiagate

are the same ones that authored this corruption and they know how to hide it so they went and prosecuted assange so the information already exists you just got to go get it like i know where to get it i just need to issue a correction i made a mistake it's not bill barr that was talking about assassinating assange it was trump's secretary of state mike pompeo that plotted to assassinate Assange. So I apologize for my mistake earlier. Yeah, you're going to get sued. Obviously.

I made a correction. The biggest questions I have for the president is his personnel choices, firing, and then criminal prosecutions. Because here at the Libertarian Party Convention, there's two big things I hear, and it's Trump hired bad people i don't trust him and trump let like the so it's it's hiring bad people and giving them control like fauci's

included in this oh yeah everything fauci's involved with lying and then the criminal prosecutions of said abject corruption so for me i i agree i mean i look at uh economic policy and i get it. The deficit stuff is bad, but economically, this country was a churning. And so you can't compare that to today. Trump made mistakes. I'm fine. I think overall is a net positive foreign policy, I think, was tremendous. I think his foreign policy was the best I've seen in my life. I'm 38. Maybe there's people who older than me who saw better. That's fine.

Crossing the DMZ into North Korea into enemy territory. I nearly cried to see him make that move. No security detail. Crossing right into an enemy country, that's bravery. I respect it. The Abraham Accords, I think they're fantastic. Ending the wars. Ending the wars, setting a timeline for withdrawal, trying to get us out of Syria. All of these things are massive net positives. And I look at all of that. But but when I talk to libertarians, they say he's hiring bad people who stabbed him in the back. He's not he does not handle this. Bolton stabbed him in the back. My hope is that he's learned from that and that his revenge and our retribution will come with proper personnel, because now he needs that

good. Like you said, with Pence, he needs a better right hand man. He needs a real right hand man and good lieutenants who are going to make sure the job gets done. So two things. So selfish plug in the back of this book, there's literally a glossary of government gangsters in alphabetical order that I put the Biden administration spent 10 months blocking the release of this book at the Suman Federal Court to get it. So I name everybody Democrat and Republican and how they screwed us in the Trump administration and before that. So identifying them is step one. And then people always ask, OK, do we have the bench to come in with the president? Should he win next time around? My answer is 100 percent. Yes, we figured it out from the last time who not to trust and who to trust. And most importantly, that you don't need the volume of people in there that the government

says you need to run the government. Do you have a website for the book or anything like that? Yeah, governmentgangsters.com or you can get it on Amazon and all that other stuff, too. All right. We are going to now shift over to our conversation with the man himself, President Donald Trump, to ask him some of these questions personally. So make sure you smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends if you like it and become a member at TimCast.com. Click join us. Support our work.

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Thanks so much for this conversation. Hi, President Trump. Ladies and gentlemen, President Donald J. Trump. How are you? Good. Mr. President, this is your seat we have for you right here. Okay. How are you?

Nice to see you. I'm very good. Nice to see you. We met a couple weeks ago. I remember. Yeah. You complimented my face. I really do appreciate it.

You're a beauty. Thanks for sitting down. I really do appreciate it. So I know you don't have a lot of time, so we'll jump right in. Okay, good. We had a couple polls we went over on the show, on our show, IRL. Young people, surprisingly, immigration is a top issue for them now. I was talking to a young guy.

He's 26. He says he's watching what's going on in New York. He owns a business. He can't afford to buy his own house. He struggles to be able to support a family. And I know that you've said that there's going to be the largest deportation effort in your next term. How do we do it? So millions and millions of people are coming into our country, and it's not necessarily exactly what we want or had in mind. They have open borders where people just flow in. And many

of those people are coming from prisons. Many of those people, frankly are murderers and they're drug dealers and, uh, they're coming from mental institutions and they're coming from places that are not going to work very well. It's not going to be very good for our country. So we're going to start with that and we have to get them out.

No country can sustain what we're going through. I believe the number is 15, 16 million could even be 17 million people right now. That's more than almost, that's bigger than almost all of our states. I think it's freaking out young people. How do we do it, though? I mean, is it going to be new personnel? It will really be done with local police.

You know, the respect has been taken away. The honor has been taken away from our police forces. They're not allowed to do anything. And whether it's libertarian or not libertarian, people have to have, you have to have law and order. You can't have 500 people walking into a department store and just walking out with everything they have.

And we have to give honor and respect back. And I believe immunity because, you know, so often when a police person does their job they end up with they end up with no pension they end up with no house they end up with no family everything's taken away from them they and they have to get their own lawyer so we're going to give them back their dignity and their strength uh the local police know the criminals that we're talking about they know their first name their first name, their middle name, and their last name.

They know everything about them. And we're going to have to let them do that. And they will bring them in. We have no choice. And these are in many cases. And this is from all over the world, not just South America, which is big enough. But they're coming in from the Congo. They're coming in from all parts of Africa.

They're coming in from all parts of Asia. They're coming in from all parts of Asia. And it's an invasion into our country. And no country can handle this. So we're going to have them taken out. Local police, we're going to work very closely with the local police. And it's been done before. We had Dwight Eisenhower, believe it or not, did the biggest deportation. He pretty much stopped it.

Strange that we mentioned Eisenhower because you don't think of him that way. But he did a massive deportation where people were pouring in. The next big question that we get a lot is, there's two components to this. The first is, me, many of the libertarians here, we want to see firings.

We want to see, in the bureaucracy, corrupt individuals, the bloat. On top of that, without getting into the specifics for obvious reasons, the things that they're doing to you with the court system is not just to you. It is to me, is to everyone who voted for you in 2020. It's true. Are we going to get some good personnel in as attorney general, deputy attorney general and in the CIA and see some

prosecutions? So we had some great people because our trade numbers were fantastic, the jobs we did on trade, the jobs we did frankly in the military underneath the terrible television generals who were absolutely terrible, but we have incredible people. You know, we defeated ISIS and we had no new wars because they were concerned with us. I had no wars at all. I finished off a war that we were in for 20 years, but we had no wars. And we have to get the right people.

It's all about the people. So when I first came here, I was only in Washington 17 times in my life. All of a sudden I'm president and I really knew nobody. I relied on people. Some were good, some were rhinos, some gave us some bad advice. And generally speaking, we had very good people, but we had some that we have

to do better. Attorney general, we have to get a great attorney general. And I'd work with the Libertarian Party on that. I think it's very good because, you know, I view the Libertarian Party as almost a party of common sense, largely of common sense. And I say that about the Republican Party too. We're a party of common sense. You want borders, but you want fairness. You want a lot of things that a lot of other people don't talk about. So we will work with a lot of people to get the right people in. The difference is I now know sort of everybody.

And I'm not having to be relying on people that I didn't know very well and listen to their recommendations. And I think we're going to have phenomenal people. I know the people. I know the good ones, the bad ones, the weak ones, the strong ones. I think we're going to have great people. We're friends with Kash Patel. He was on the show just before you, and that gives me a lot of confidence.

Yeah. Well, Kash is fantastic. He's an example of a good one. We have some great people, but Kash was a great example. Devin Nunes, as you know, he's fantastic. Absolutely. We example of a good one. We have some great people, but Cash was a great example. Devin Nunes, as you know, he's fantastic. We have so many great people. So when it came to foreign policy, I'll be honest, I didn't vote for you in 2016. I was jaded. Obama let me down. I'm from Chicago. I thought 2016 was silly. And then in 2020, with the timeline for getting out of Afghanistan, when you tried to get our troops out of Syria, my question is, why are we in Syria?

Who even knew? And they lied to you and they lied to us about the number of troops in there. And so maybe it's a bit blunt for me to say I want to see people prosecuted for the for the lies of the American people. But in for in terms of foreign policy, perhaps is a little bit of a a biased interview but I think you're the greatest president of my lifetime I appreciate it and ending the wars that we should not have been involved in now the fear is World War III what are you looking at when you enter

your next term to stopping the escalation? Well first of all I'm the only one that is going to stop World War III because this man can't put two sentences together, he doesn't know what he's doing doesn't't know where he is. And amazingly, it seems like he's going to be running. You know, it's a lot of people say, do you think he'll make it to the starting gate? Well, we'll see what happens. But if you look at Viktor Orban, because we don't want to see wars. I don't want to see wars. I was in no wars other than we finished a war with ISIS and we completed it 100% complete. But I don't want to see wars. I think

it's so horrible, so unnecessary, so costly in terms of lives and money in that order and destroying these countries. You know, you're destroying culture. When you look at Ukraine, that would have never happened if I were president. You look at the October 7th attack on Israel, it would have never happened. I look at your policies, I see secure the borders bring jobs back i look at the democrats and and many republicans and it's foreign war and foreign expansion that's what what is that uh... i think it's just a failed mentality it's crazy that you can't you can sell problems over a telephone and said they start

dropping bombs i see uh... recently they're dropping bombs all over yemen uh... you don't have to do that. You can talk in such a way where they respect you and they listen to you. Viktor Orban of Hungary, you know, the leader, they call him a strong man. Who cares if he's a strong man or not a strong man? He's a very powerful guy. He said the problem the world has is that Donald Trump is no longer president. When he was president, China didn't play around. Russia didn't play around. Nobody played around. And we had no problems. Today, the whole world play around. Russia didn't play around. Nobody played around. And we had no problems.

Today, the whole world is on fire. I heard that funny. There's a conversation from a phone call where you said that there was a they maybe thought there was a 5% chance you'd nuke them. And so they kept them in line. It's kind of scary to think about. But you take a look at the weakness we have now with Ukraine and the money that we are wasting. You know, I'll bring it back to the economy. This young guy I was talking to about immigration.

Actually, I'll put it this way. There's a viral video where a young man's screaming that we're sending hundreds of billions to a country no one's ever heard of, and young people are hurting in this country. Do you see any direct economic policy that is on your list for 2025? Well, direct economic, but also direct in terms of warfare. We're spending hundreds of billions of dollars that is on your list for 2025? Well, direct economic,

but also direct in terms of warfare. We're spending hundreds of billions of dollars all around the world. But when you look at Ukraine, we're giving all of this money. Europe, which is much more affected by that war than us, is spending just a tiny fraction of what we're spending. And you say, does anybody at least get involved in this? But more importantly, I will end that war. I'll get it ended. Putin respects me. Zelensky respects me. I know all

the players and I want to get that war ended. It's a horrible war. It's a terrible, there's no good war, but that's a horrible war. And to think it would have never started, it would have never started if the election turned out like it should have turned out, uh, that war would have never started. And you know, the number of lives we're talking about is far greater than the numbers that you hear. When they blow up a town or when they blow up these buildings, these massive buildings, surprisingly, I mean, these are big. That was my business. These are big, powerful buildings. And they come tumbling down to the ground and they say nobody was injured. A lot of people were killed. And the numbers are a lot different than you think.

You will see that. You will see that happening. When those numbers really get announced, you're going to see it's much worse than people think. Here at the Libertarian Party National Convention, they had one of their, I believe it's one of their presidential nominees, said he wants to see Fauci, the heads of Moderna, Pfizer, Biden, and you locked up for what happened during COVID. I don't agree with them, but there is a big sentiment. Elon Musk tweeted, prosecute Fauci. Fauci lied to Congress about the gain of function research that was going on.

And now we have testimony. Well, I'm the one that stopped the funding. And this was funding from before me. I'm the one that stopped the funding. And this was funding from before me. I'm the one that stopped the funding. Fauci wasn't a big player in my administration like he was after I left. I mean, Biden made him the king of everything. And if you if you take a look at that, Fauci was not the big player with me that he was. And in fact, I did things that he didn't want to do. He wanted to keep it open to China. I said, you got to close it to China because it was all coming out of China. It was coming out of Wuhan, which I said right at the beginning. But the other thing is,

and what people don't realize, I gave, I believe in federalism, I gave the power to governors. Some governors did a great job. In all cases, they were Republicans. And some, like in South Carolina, Henry McMaster, kept everything open, kept everything open. Others didn't. The Democrats did a bad job, very bad job. But basically, I gave that power over the states. I gave it to the governor. I gave it back to the states. And I think it's something which when people realize that, it's something that they respect. Will there be accountability for the lying to Congress when you get to appoint your new AG deputy? Yeah. And we'll take a look at statute of limitations because, you know, the statute of limitations are quite long and we're going to be looking

at that very seriously. Yeah. I got one big question for you. So part of my family comes from Korea. Good. And you did what I. So part of my family comes from Korea. Good. And you did what I think is one of the most tremendous things. You crossed the demilitarized zone into North Korea with no security as a sign of goodwill and peace with the hostile nation. And I've had people tell me it never happened. So I think people need to know about it. I'm wondering if you can just tell me how did that happen?

How did it come to be? And it hasn't happened since. And we were, when I met with, you know, with the handoff, you sort of meet with the previous president for a period of time. The meeting lasted for quite a while with President Obama. You sit in the Oval Office and you talk and the press is outside and you talk for a little while. He said, the single greatest threat we have is North Korea. And I said, have you called them? Have you tried to talk to them? You know, little things like that.

And it didn't matter what the answer was. He felt that that was the single biggest threat in the world was North Korea. And as you know, there was certain hostility when I first started. And all of a sudden, it boiled down to something that was very beautiful, the way it happened. And I got along with him very well. And I will say that if Hillary won that race, you would have had a nuclear war and millions of people would have been killed. And you weren't even close to that.

It never happened. It was never going to happen. I got along great with him. And it just never was going to happen. Were you at all scared in any way when you crossed into an enemy country? Well, I wouldn't say that Secret Service was thrilled. And in those blue buildings, there were lots of people in those buildings that I looked at, you know, the two blue buildings on each side with the windows. And I looked in those windows and there were a lot of things happening in those. Someday I'll tell you about it. But no,

I felt very safe. I felt my relationship with him, as you know, was very hostile, little rocket man and all. But then all of a sudden it morphed. He respected me. I respected him. And we ended up, once we got to know each other, we ended up very good, a very smart guy, very strong guy. He's the absolute leader of that country. You know, for those that think he's not, they're wrong. And I got to know him very well.

I even did a press conference. He never did a press conference before. I said, would you like to do a press conference. He never did a press conference before. I said, would you like to do a press conference? We did a press conference, if you remember. And then he said, that's the end of the press conference, and boom, everybody was pretty radically thrown out. But it was a press conference, the only press conference he's ever done.

I got along with him great. We had no nuclear war. You would have had a nuclear war guaranteed, and you won't if look if we have the right president if we have somebody that knows what he's doing you're not going to have world war three if on the other hand we don't you're going to end up in world war three and it's going to be a war like no other because of the power of weaponry many have actually been saying we're already in it uh the hill published a piece saying we are in World War III and Biden is losing it.

And so my hope is I don't see any logical path for a Biden presidency to fix the economy, to fix anything. He can't fix it. He can't fix himself. Yeah, yeah. He can't fix anything. He had a new one the other day, Pakalaka. I don't know if you saw that. He was muttering on TV, something like that. Now, crypto.

By the way, I just, just just so you know i know all the leaders they're at the top of their game they're sharp they're tough they're smart they're they love their country or they do whatever they have to for their country at a minimum and when they see this guy come in i think they they can't believe it i know they can't believe it it's not the right person so we'll do a couple quick ones. We don't have much time. You announced you're taking cryptocurrency. What we're doing is we're backing it as a form of, as a field.

And we have to. Because otherwise somebody else is going to be doing it from another country. And as you know, they're already trying. And it's going to happen. And we're going to help it happen. And it's something that can be very good. I think it can be very good. No central bank digital currencies?

No digital, no central bank. And one more big one. Will you pardon Julian Assange? Well, I'm going to talk about that today, and we're going to give it very serious consideration, and we're going to have a couple of other things to say in this speech that I think you're going to love. I've heard some rumors. And you've gotten so much out of me, I should leave a

little bit for the speech, don't you think? Mr. President, it is an honor and a privilege. I really do appreciate you sitting down with me. And you're very respected, I have to say, when I did a little research, and some of my guys said, and I've met you before, but they said just a very respected guy. It's my honor. Even though we're keeping that big crowd. That's the biggest crowd they've ever had. We're keeping them waiting just for this interview, so congratulations. Thank you so much. Shall we? Thank you, my friend. Appreciate it very much.

That was fun. We better win. We're not going to have a country. Yeah. We're excited. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I do. We're friends with Junior and Cash

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