Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1036 Trump Trial Judge RIGS JURY AGAINST Trump, Says PICK ANY CRIME w/Mike Lindell

Episode Date: May 30, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil, & Serge are joined by Mike Lindell of MyPillow to discuss jury deliberations beginning in the Trump trial, a new poll showing the Trump trial has done nothing to sway the public's opinion on Trump, Hunter Biden to sue Fox News for calling him a "crackhead," and a CEO warning the America's economy is doomed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The jury deliberations have ended. The jury was sent home. They will come back tomorrow. They did not reach a verdict. That's unsurprising. But I guess what is also not surprising is that the judge instructed the jury that when it comes to finding if Trump is guilty, they must unanimously agree that Trump committed a crime.

But the underlying crime can be one of three. By all means, pick yours. And as long as you all agree, at least one of them was broken, not unanimously, then he is guilty. That's right. The underlying crime could be one of three different things that Trump may or may not have done. And they don't have to agree that Donald Trump did those things as long as each of them agrees at least one of those things happened. So this is insane. They've basically rigged this against Trump.

When the prosecution said this, I was surprised the judge let it through. And then the judge gave the instructions to the jury. While you must agree that the principal crime falsifying business records was committed, the underlying crime, which makes it a felony, pick and choose. It could be anything you think. And so here we are now, of course, the corporate press is lying about it and they're saying, no, no, it's all, it's all fake news. So we'll talk about that. We've got a couple other funny stories. Biden snapping at a reporter, Hunter Biden apparently wants to sue Fox news because they called him a

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Share the show with all of your friends on the Internet. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Mike Lindell. Thanks for having me on. Everyone knows who you are, but do you want to introduce yourself? Well, I used to be known as the MyPillow guy. I think now it's the election platform guy. You're still the pillow guy. Yeah, okay. we saw a lot more than pillows everybody too and uh and i'm here to say my employees all say hello they're uh uh we're still here even in spite of all the attacks and my employee-owned company

we've made it through and and um by the grace of god and so it's so it's, I'm actually backed out to be able to do shows again. I've been sitting there back home in Minnesota trying to protect my employees and everything from all the media attacks and the cancellations and the lawfare going on against MyPillow. Here's their CEO out there wanting to get secure elections and they get sued. It's crazy. The debanking, the cancellations well uh i bought your stuff we just bought a big order of all the my pillow stuff and so we love it so it's uh thanks for being here it should be fun thanks i got to see the skateboard thing out there with the with the my pillow pit that's right yeah we got a big pit of pillows the kids were jumping

into it yeah it was awesome right on all right we got phil hanging out hello everybody my name is phil labonte i'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that remains i'm an anti-communist The kids were jumping into it. Yeah, I watched it. It was awesome. Right on. All right, we got Phil hanging out. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. How you doing, Hannah Clare? I'm good. It's fun to be back. It's good to see you again.

I'm Hannah Clare Brimel. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. That's Scanner News. Follow all of their work on the internet at TimCastNews. Hi, Serge. Howdy, y'all. Let's get started, Tim. The big news today is that the jury has begun its

deliberations they wrapped without coming to a verdict that is unsurprising ap has the story jurors and trump hush money trial and first day of deliberations after asking to rehear testimony uh and then they they sent another note in asking for the judge's instructions again because no one knows what the crime is. Nobody understands what's going on. Now, here's the best part. Let's start from the beginning. Jonathan Turley posting this earlier in the morning. Mershon just delivered the coup de grace instruction.

He said that there is no need to agree on what occurred. They can disagree on what the crime was among the three choices thus. This means that they could split four, four, four, and he would still treat them as unanimous. Now, the other day in closing arguments, we heard this from the prosecution. And I, you know, I knew the prosecution would do something like this.

Like, hey, you all know that Trump's a criminal. Just convict him, say he committed a crime. And the prosecution actually presents this. The judge actually agrees. We had this from Mark Levin. The grotesque trial charade gets even worse this morning. The Stalinist clown judge directed the jury that they can choose among three areas of crimes to convict the former president. One, violations of federal election law, which no one in the courtroom is familiar with. And the judge barred Brad Smith from testifying about two falsification of business records and three tax violations. Of course, the issue for all of the above is the requirement of criminal intent.

Furthermore, the idea that jurors can pick one of the three and they don't have to unanimously agree on which of the three is another shocking development. Moreover, the federal campaign violation has still not been defined. Now, here's where it gets good. The corporate press, of course, is playing the game where they create their own conspiracy theory and then debunk it to trick people into not realizing what's going on. The AP says posts misrepresent New York judge's instructions to jury in Trump hush money trial, claiming that the claim is that the judge told the jury they don't need to have a unanimous verdict. Nobody said that.

We're talking about the underlying crime. That's what Jonathan Turley pointed out. There's a Mark Levin point. Basically, every pointed out. Everyone pointed out that what they're saying is if the jury says, yeah, Trump falsified a record, what is the other crime he's covering up? The judge says, you pick. It's up to you because there's never been one.

They don't have one. So buried in this AP assessment, false. Merchant said that to convict Trump, the jury will have to find unanimously on each of the 34 felony counts. And then when you go down, they actually break down. Well, not really. The judge told the jury to convict Trump on any given charge to convict. They'll have to find unanimously. They all must agree the former president created a fraudulent entry in the company's records or caused someone else to do so. They say the crime Trump committed or hid is a violation of New York election law, making it illegal for two or more conspirators to promote or prevent the election of any person

to a public public office by unlawful means. Mershon gave the jurors three possible, quote, unlawful means, a.k.a. crimes that they can apply to Trump's charges, falsifying other business records, breaking FEC law or submitting false information and tax return for conviction. Each juror would have to find that at least one of those three things happened, but they don't have to agree unanimously on which it was. This whole time, we've been wondering, what is the underlying crime? They took a misdemeanor beyond the statute of limitations and said, yes, but he was concealing another crime.

Therefore, it's now a felony and we can charge him. And everyone said, what's the underlying crime? And the jury can figure it out if they want, but they don't got to be unanimous. This is a rigged trial from the judge. Welcome to 2024. I'm not convinced that I think there's a decent probability Trump gets convicted. I don't know what you do about a situation that's so convoluted. The feds don't have any kind of authority to step in and it seems like the entire justice department of the state of new york is going to allow this

i mean it's on its face it seems completely and totally ridiculous ridiculous it also seems like everyone's kind of like well you know once it gets to appeals it's going to be obviously overturned or whatever which would be the right thing but it to appeals it's going to be obviously overturned or whatever which would be the right thing but it's still it's i i'm still just like i don't i don't i feel like how long does it take yeah i feel like there needs to be some kind of remedy to i wish that were i i feel like there should be even if there isn't uh some kind of remedy to stop this but i don't i don't know that there is it's weird that the prosecution doesn't have to be specific in the crime that they're alleging they're trying to cover up i is. It's weird that the prosecution doesn't have to be specific in the crime

that they're alleging they're trying to cover up. I feel like that's part of the Constitution. It reminds me of that show, Whose Line Is It Anyways? And Duke Carey would always be like, well, the points don't matter. That's the prosecution right now. The crimes don't matter as long as you convict, which is obviously, to me, an abuse of the justice system.

And you're completely right. If tried as a misdemeanor, they couldn't have brought it after 2019, and it wouldn't come with the jail sentence. So there's there's this weird it all comes down to the fact that they are trying this as a felony. But the judge just said, but just forget about the stuff that would make it a felony. You can make that up as we go along. This is not the one that they had to change the statute of limitation. This is the one.

That was the Stormy Daniels one, right? No, no, no, no, no. This is the Stormy Daniels one. E. Jean Carroll was when she sued Trump. OK, all right. So is the one. No, no, no. That was the Stormy Daniels one, right? No, no, no. This is the Stormy Daniels one. Okay. E. Jean Carroll was when she sued Trump. Okay, all right. So that was finished.

They created a new law. Okay, let's... It's like it's all so insane. But it's not political. This is the anomalies that times we're in. It's like, you know, none of this has ever happened before.

No. Ever. And, you know, I live in everyday different things and I watch our real president and what's happening there. Can I say that? Our real president. Well, he really was a president at one point.

Well, he's Mr. President. But anyway, these are times where it's like so many nonsensical things. And you just got to look at what's the real agenda. There's another agenda if you can't make sense of it. And you know i think it's backfiring though i really do i you know i talked to i talked to our president uh i'll say our real president uh the other day and and he talks about you know all the time that this weaponizing against him and but he gets to come out there he thinks of the positive at least he gets to talk to worldwide media and say, and people are seeing through all this. I mean, I don't care if you're Democrat or Republican.

I go everywhere in the country and they're seeing through this. So I think there's actually good that's going to come out of it eventually going, hey, we can't ever let this kind of stuff happen again. But there are people that are a Trump supporter saying, like, Normies, independents won't care. Biden, what is this, Biden's supposed to have a press conference when the verdict comes out? Is that what the plan is? That's what I heard. And if that's the case, because that's the rumor going around, or it may be definitive news, I haven't checked. But if that's true, we all know what he's going to say.

He's going to say Donald Trump is a convicted felon. Do not vote for this man. And a lot of people are going to just be drooling into their laps going, okay. Right. Yeah. But you know what? It's like this has been going on for so long. It's like the kid that called Wolf, the little boy that called Wolf.

It keeps going on and people are seeing through it. And I'm not just people on the right or people on the left too. It's like their eyes are getting open that this is a weaponization against all of our rights. I've got things that are going on, and I really think that people see through that. Any other time in history, you could go back and pick any indictment that he's gotten or anything that's happened, and they're done. Your political career is over. Even myself as a businessman, I i get oh well they couldn't get my pass so he's a crack guy yeah i admitted it till i said it right away right but you know

you get a phone taken at a hardy's drive-thru everyone's going in normally in a normal world they say what crime did you commit mike what did you do why did the fbi after you my my buddy that was with me going hunting coming back for a hunt should i be scared to death you know i'm going i'm going you know what what did i do i I'd be scared to death. I'm going, what did I do? I want to be arrested. And they wouldn't arrest me. I mean, we're living in some weird times because of crazy times. This is the terrifying reality of our current state, the current state of our country.

The court of public opinion controls everything, basically. And so what's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty isn't anymore. People watch you get arrested. They just assume the government is right and you're a bad person there are some polls though that have said that you know trump could win independence a conviction could help trump with independence in certain states there's one from i believe even more than that i told him the other day i said you have a bucket here of common sense bucket and i go around i've got a thing i just was in the heart of chicago talking to democrats here that voted for Biden. They're now

voting for Trump, and I asked them why. I went around and asked them all why. I had 500 of them in a room. And you ask them why. There's different reasons. Well, one of the biggest things is what they are economy right now, and the border open, and the fentanyl pouring, and things like that. But they're also looking at, as

he's getting attacked, they're flipping into this bucket of common sense going you know i told on his first indictment i remember saying you know the his polls went up and i said man you keep getting indicted to your polls you're pretty sure you're gonna have more votes than voters like pennsylvania you know you know they have more votes than voters every election in penn. Well, they're really good at what they do. That's right. It is wild, though. I mean, I think Trump has really struck a chord in the way that, you know, progressive sort of activists in these

ADAs and district attorney's offices couldn't have predicted. Like, being somebody who is being sort of chased by the federal government, who is being persecuted on the level that he is, really won his heart and minds of people, especially people who are not that interested in politics, but mostly they want the government to leave them alone. The idea that they would go after a former president who's also

a billionaire in his home state is terrifying to anyone who doesn't have any means of fighting a corrupt judicial system. And I live that. They come after me and my business just because I have a big platform out there. I know so many small businesses that have been just attacked and they're done you know with what's going on they don't have a voice they don't have a voice and i think you're right if you've hit a you know you've hit a touch the court with people out there going what if it what if it was us you know well they can do it there they could do it i don't care what party you're in you know i i like to point out uh uh freed zakaria on cnn saying this case would not have been brought against a person whose name was not

donald trump it's a really stupid way of saying they only brought this case because it's trump but when cnn is saying that right regular people hear it yeah and then when you hear stuff like this this is why the ap is trying to cover up right for for the judge like i this is the game they play guys if you're for everybody watching this i want to hammer this point in i explain this all the time they someone will claim something someone will say like hey i noticed the thing the corporate press will slightly alter the claim and then at the very bottom explain that it was true the whole time. So the example I often give is Donald Trump will do a backflip, you know, and land perfectly in front of everybody. Right. And then what the what Snopes and all these corporate press outlets will do is they'll write.

Did Donald Trump really do a backflip dot dot dot on Sunday morning? False and big, bold letters. Then it'll give you this huge two page breakdown. And at the very bottom, it'll say, well, it is true that Trump did a backflip on Saturday. He did not do it on Sunday when no one made that claim. And I, and to exemplify this, we know for a fact, the judge said the underlying crime can be one of three. So long as you agree, at least one of them was broken. Even if you don't agree that he broke all of them, or you're not even unanimous, it's fine to convict him on the first charge. What they've changed now is, according to the AP, they're saying the claim is that you don't need a unanimous verdict to convict Trump.

When the claim was always you don't need to be unanimous on the underlying crime. What they've done is they've created their own conspiracy. And what will happen now is regular people, you'll be sitting at dinner. We've got the 4th of July coming up. You're going to come to the family and you're going to be at the lake drinking a beer and you're going to be talking about this case. And they're going to be like, no, that's fake news because I read in the AP. And then it's going to be difficult for you to try to explain how the AP lied by creating their own fake argument. And then at the bottom of the article actually saying they don't have to agree unanimously on which crime was committed. It's incredible how they do this.

Yeah, absolutely it is. You know, my personal experience with that, we were just talking before the show. I have all the journalists, I think every journalist in the world on my phone. And they'll attack and attack. I'll write these articles. The headline will be, you know, Mike Lindell did this or whatever, or we talked about the warehouse. Mike Lindell, my pillow's out in the street.

The employees, they lost their warehouse. Well, then you read down through the article, and then you get the truth at the bottom. But in the meantime, everyone's calling me up. They're going, you know, what do you do? You're out in the street. You lost everything. Are you ashamed of what you stood up for and you know and uh but but it's gotten but

that for me i've used that as a way to get the word out even and i've i was just saying some of these journalists have actually become weird friends with them going hey you've got to bash me a little more because otherwise your boss otherwise your boss isn't going to print the article it'll be too good you know i've done it before where I've had journalists from the New York Times, the Washington Post. I've given them my book to read. I read my book before I give them a long interview. Well, then they read the book, and their articles are too good

because they're torn. And they never got printed, the one. And the one for the New York or the Washington Post, I re-shared it everywhere because it was like, wow, I can't believe it slipped by his boss. But I think my point being is people now are even getting wise to the articles you describe because you see these headlines. But a lot of them are still part of the brainwashing.

Here's the headline. This is what the truth is. But the truth has been twisted so much by the news. And it's disgusting the way they twist it. Well, let's jump to this next one. We got a tweet from the Trump War room. It's a clip from CNN. The no change in public opinion during the Trump trial. This is amazing. Check this out, John, that it began. But apparently it's 44 days. You crack the numbers. You've run the numbers. All right, let's take a look here.

Think Trump did something illegal in the New York hush money case. I've been interested in whether or not these numbers would change at all during the course of this trial. Simply put, John, they have not. Pre-opening statements, think Trump did something illegal, 46 percent. After the direct examination of Michael Cohen by the prosecution, look at where we are now, 46 percent. The percentage of Americans who think that the charges are very serious, in fact, dropped from 40 percent to a little bit more than 35 percent during the course of this trial. So, yes, perhaps things might have changed with those 12 jurors. But when it comes to the larger American public, there has been no change, at least so far, John. I really love how he had to write no with his finger on their stupid screen. I like that he's presenting it as a win. Any possible reasons why? Yeah, I think the

question is, what's exactly cooking here? Why hasn't there been much of a change? Well, folks like you and me, real news junkies, might be paying really close attention to what's going on. The fact is, most Americans don't really care that much. So closely following news about economy inflation, that's number one, it's 65 percent. Look at immigration, 52 percent. Election legitimacy, 49 percent. Abortion, 47 percent. All the way down on this list of issues tested by the Ipsos Knowledge Panel is Trump's court cases at 42 percent, significantly less than economy inflation. The fact is, John, when we're looking at these numbers, what we see is Americans' minds aren't changing. And a big reason why Americans' minds aren't changing is at this particular point,

John, they are tuned out of the. I'll just rephrase it for you, buddy. They don't care. Right. They're wondering why their eggs cost so much money why they can't afford milk and bread and they know that joe biden's not the president who's going to fix the economy and donald trump is that's right that's it i told i was talking when i talked to our president the other day when i say that i was talking about donald trump and uh i said you have this bucket here, this common sense bucket. And I told him, you know, as things keep, he keeps getting attacked, his polls keep going up. And once you're in the bucket, I told him, you've given nobody a reason to leave that bucket,

because he can go back to point to December of 2019. And all of us, our lives, no matter where you started, or how many forks you ate with, your lives had somewhat improved with the economy all the time, highest consumer confidence ever. And now the destruction that's going on with the economy and the borders and being an ex-crack addict, worry about the addiction, the hopelessness with the fentanyl pouring across and deaths all over. These things are driving people to this bucket of common sense. And they don't care about all this nonsense that we're having to go through. That other case where I'm sitting in Mar-a-Lago the other day where that one judge said Mar-a-Lago was worth like $18 million or some nonsense. I'm going, this wing's worth $18 million.

I know what the properties are worth around there. And you just can't put your head around this and going, what's going on? What are they doing this for? But I just think it's pure evil and it's backfiring on them. Let's not just do one. Let's do four indictments. Let's just keep going. We pile on the public.

We'll just go away. Right. And each case is the most important one. Every time one hits it, they're like, well, we weren't that serious about that. We're really serious about the next one. This is the big one here. This always makes me laugh because CNN is almost like, well, we weren't that serious about that. We're really serious about the next one. This is the big one here. This always makes me laugh because CNN is almost like, well, you know, we have to justify because we thought people would be obsessed with this.

Because I assume CNN or maybe the prosecution would assume that as they present their case and the media freaks out about it, CNN covered it nonstop, that more people would start to believe that Donald Trump had done something wrong. But in fact, the fact that there's no change tells you how ineffective this prosecution was and how siloed we are politically. No, no, no. There is a big change. CNN's ratings have gone down. That's so true.

And I think they're lying about their staying even. There's probably so much pouring into this bucket, they've got to go, well, just say it's even, that it's not going up. When really, it's going up. I do wonder how much you guys think the admission from CNN is going to actually move the needle. Now, I don't think that actually anything coming from the courtroom is going to. But I do wonder if like the people that have been spreading the narrative and the viewers have been used to kind of allowing them to shift, you know, as the narrative shifts and not really invent interrogate the the the change do you think that this is going to move the needle do you think that they're going to be like

well maybe because cnn you know i mean how much do you think it's going to matter if at all so a couple years ago you know i was at a family dinner for thanksgiving and it was very much the you got your liberal family members and you got your liberal family members, and you got your conservative family members. And then last year, it was ain't nobody was with Biden. Right. So, you know, without getting into too much detail for the sake of people's privacy, it was kind of like, you know, a couple years ago, it's like, no, Trump's bad. Oh, come on, Biden's not that bad.

Last year was, oh, Biden's awful. It wasn't a pro-Trump thing. It was, oh, I can't believe how bad things are getting. That's exactly right. And that's like, I just spent like a week in Chicago, and I'm not kidding. I couldn't believe it that these people, I went to the Capitol and all the Democrats there were coming up to me and asking me, because, you know, I'm all for election platforms, securing our elections. And they're coming up to me.

These are the politicians coming up to me. Even they see what's going on. I really believe that, that you look around and I don't, you know,. Even they see what's going on. I really believe that, that you look around, and it's a destruction that's going on, but it's actually all these things that's getting, I call them uniparty Republicans. I call them blockers out there, the Brad Rassenburgers, the Robin Voss of the world that I'm trying to get gone. And these guys, there's been so much revealed as and by this onion being opened up, you know, you know, what was the nonsense of shutting down the pipeline on the first day when he was in power? Yeah, some more destruction than anything. You know, all the entrepreneurs

in our country, the shipping charges, that's the stuff that goes with that is destroying and people they don't see what's really going on there. This mom-and-pop business is where you have these shipping charges because of one thing. You shut down the pipeline. Gas prices can control everything. What I do believe, when Donald Trump, I'll say when he's back in, this can all be fixed maybe better than ever because we've all learned so much what does destroy, what is open our eyes. That border is disgusting i mean when you have something that's going right why would you not keep doing it right so joe biden shuts down keystone shuts down these pipelines bans fracking on federal lands

and a bunch of trump supporters are like oh look gas prices are going up the media then says trump supporters are lying because keystone wasn't in operation. It wasn't actually transporting crude. So it has no effect. That's a lie. What happened was there is supply and demand and there's future prospecting on the amount of supply that's going to be available. When Biden shut down Keystone, basically all of the speculators and all the companies said without this pipeline, we are going to be in a supply deficit within X amount of years. That's right.

Buy now to bolster our stocks of petroleum. And then other speculators come in saying, oh, wow, I'm going to get rich when the price skyrockets. Which cause the speculation causes immediate prices of crude to go up. And then you feel it at the gas pump. Right. That's right. It's all speculation. And not to mention 13 people on that pipeline committed suicide of those workers.

That was their job. It was disgusting what went on then. They just shut it down overnight, and it was bad. That's terrible, but people do need to take into account how like the the just the policy decisions that an administration talks about regulations that they discuss affects the price of gas. And we discuss how immoral it is that the Biden administration is taking, you know, oil from our our strategic reserves because that leaves the United States in a even more compromised position internationally or on the geopolitical scale or whatever. But the fact of the matter is, like, there are still things that the Biden administration could do that would help the not just the cost of fuel like gas, but the cost of everything, because the cost of gas is such a large part of every single thing we purchase. Biden could come out and be like, I'm going to raise gas prices.

And they just go nuts. The whole system would freak out because people would start making crazy moves. There was this moment when I think it was the Syrian electronic army, which was a couple of hackers based in Russia, actually supporting Syria. I think they were Syrian, but they were refugees. They hacked the AP Twitter account, tweeted that Barack Obama had been injured in some kind of attack,

and then the market just tanked. And then when the AP got control back and then said this was a hack, it jumped back up to about 90% of where it was. What people don't realize is that was an instant transfer of probably hundreds of millions of dollars from one from one group to the next. That could have just a tweet.

That's that's how simple it is. So what do you think happens when Biden says I'm banning fracking on federal lands and we're shutting down a massive oil pipeline? Right. Gas prices going to go up. He could do something, too, but he's so beholden to the the eco crazies that he's got to deal with in his own party yeah he did make environmentalism a huge part of his platform but i think actually a larger component would probably be the saudis i think biden's looking to cut cut a deal with saudi arabia of okay you keep the flow rolling we'll cut our we'll cut down giving you control over supply so long as you agree to work with us you know as to how the petrodollar works earn favor with saudi arabia you're going to make a lot more money as the

main supplier we'll we'll cut back but don't do it out of turn we want to control how much you're actually putting out so you get more from when saudi arabia dumps oil into the market it affects the dollar and so the u.s is trying to negotiate and then of course you get the yemen crisis the u.s supporting them trump's not innocent there that's a whole other fiasco but i think joe biden is basically the the you know i told this to trump it seems like the maga platform is secure our borders bring our jobs back get the american workers back to work boost our economy internally and the democrat platform is no no no we don't need to do any of that all we got to do is send send our men and women overseas to go fight in wars to go blow get blow up people and get blown up and then hopefully we can control enough territory and energy that we can just take from

everybody else right that's that's not a successful policy in the long term it results in terror blowback war and conflict and nobody wants to spend money on that that's right i've seen the warmongers i've seen something it was such irony. It was just yesterday, I think. It might have been on Facebook or Twitter or something. And here in California, so you take away your police, and you have all these electric cars in all the stations where all of them were cut because there's copper in the lines, and all of them were ransacked.

I mean, hundreds of these. And they showed all the copper cutouts, so they're sitting there. Well, now you're going to have to hire. How are you going to place them? Now you got to remake them to be, because people are going to keep doing it. They don't get arrested for anything out in California. Yeah, people are cutting the Tesla. Yeah, yeah.

Because there's a lot of copper in there. There's a lot of copper. That's crazy. So I'm going, you know, once again, bad decisions. One of the things when I met Donald Trump, people always ask me, it's in my book too, but when I met him in August of 2016, I never voted in my life. I was an ex-crack addict. I didn't think politics meant a thing, right?

You know, the world goes on. You never voted at all? I never voted. I was a crack addict. One time on a show when I did my first rally, they go, you know, I was on a radio station yesterday. There was like 20,000 people at this rally. And it was the first speech I ever did. And I go, there was 20,000 people.

I mean, I was getting interviewed on a radio station. They called me the founder of MyPillow and a former Democrat. I said, I got right on there and corrected them. I didn't find MyPillow. I invented MyPillow. I wasn't a former Democrat. I was a former crack addict. And everybody laughed. They go, no, really, I got right on there and corrected him. I didn't find my pillow. I invented my pillow. I wasn't a former Democrat. I was a former crack addict. And everybody laughed.

I go, no, really, I was, right? I don't know why they laughed because they were like, well, what's the difference? Yeah. But the point being what I was saying, when I met him, it was such, I met him August 15, 2016. And he invited me there just because I had my pillow made in the USA. And he wanted to ask me, this nobody from Minnesota that had built a company from, you know, being an American dream,

and he said, how is it making your stuff here? And he asked me all these questions, and then they said, now, whatever you do, don't tell them you're a crack addict. Right away, I go, you know, I was a crack addict, and I kind of looked at him like this, you know, and he goes, I said, I'm going to have this network, the Lindell Recovery Network. It's going to be free to addicts. And he says, and I'm going to stop the drugs pouring in. I'm going to shut that border down. But it was so many common sense solutions. I go, wow, this is like a businessman, like a CEO.

If a president, I never know when a president, you know, I never met one before. But I go, you know, that's when I went all in. I'm going, man, if he really does this, it's problem, solution, and he has a gift of what it's going to manifest to help all people. I always tell people when government's making decisions that don't help either party, if it doesn't help any of the people, there's a hidden agenda. There's a hidden agenda, and it's not good. Not good for you.

And that's it. That's why I wanted to secure our election platforms. I mean, what's so bad about that? We all want transparent, fair elections. Yeah. Well, not everybody. Right. Not the bad people.

Let's jump to the story from the Post Millennial. Hunter Biden to sue Fox News for calling him a degenerate crackhead. Heavens, why would they say such a thing? Hunter Biden is preparing a to sue fox news for defamation alleging the network exploited his drug addiction to dehumanize him his lawyers had the letter to fox news several weeks ago threatening legal action for allegedly collaborating with trump operatives and pro-russian nationals to defame him for profit the letter

demands retractions corrections and on-air apologies hunter biden's attorneys told the daily beast they plan to file a lawsuit shortly. Hunter Biden also expressed his frustrations in an interview with the outlet, stating, I'm not saying my addiction is an excuse for my bad behavior. What I'm saying is that my addiction is not an excuse for them to dehumanize me. And in so dehumanize everybody from the addict that you pass it on the street to the one that you live with. That is the principal motivating factor. Addict, addict, addict, addict, you know, crack addict. He's a crack addict, smoking crack addict. In response, a potential lawsuit, a spokesperson for Fox News said of the company's statement about

constitutionally protected coverage regarding a public figure who has been the subject of investigations by both the DOJ and Congress and has been indicted by two different U.S. attorney's offices in California and Delaware and has committed has admitted to multiple incidents of wrongdoing. So in his book, he said he was a crack addict, a crack daddy and a crack head. You can't sue someone for that. You know, well, you know, maybe things because Fox pays off on frivolous lawsuits. So maybe he thinks he's got a chance, you know, can I say that? But that's true i

mean uh fox is probably just going to be like okay what do you want the lawyers are going to go to fox they're going to say uh it's a it's a ridiculous lawsuit it's going to cost you two hundred thousand dollars to go to court right and this is where we're at that's another thing too that bothers me in this country with lawfare and everything else you can be right on something and it costs you more to say, no, I didn't do this. I'm in the middle of it. I know.

You know, it's disgusting. You saw these suits that are bought. Especially when you're suing like the government, right? Like if the government's coming after you, they can spend taxpayer money all day long, forever and ever. Whereas you eventually,

I mean, maybe not you, but the average American will run out of money at some point. They took my cell phone at a hard, I sued the FBI and our government. They never gave my phone back. I took it all the way to the Supreme Court and they wouldn't accept it. So now I got a shelf that over here.

They're never giving my phone back. I use all my business. I wasn't charged with a crime. You can't just take... Nowadays, my phone is everything, all my business stuff. That's crazy. And I kept fighting and spending more money. I'm going, you know what?

I got other bigger fights. So everybody asked and this they still have my phone i might get grand kids pictures on there that i that i can't get off of you know they cut even the judges in minnesota the supreme court there they had ninth circuit or eighth circuit whatever they go the three judges go well are you going to give his phone back or can you just do a download no we're going to keep this the this is the lawyer for the government right and they go and then they asked that one of the judges said well well what about client or attorney client privilege there and he goes well we're looking we're looking through it all so that's like okay so you say oh we shouldn't have seen that we shouldn't have seen that it's like a jury disregard what you're disregard what you just heard

you know it's bizarre the weapon the weaponization that's going on, and where you turned up, when you talk about defamation, and, you know, you talk about my cases, you know, the electronic machines that were used by our government, they're basically our government device, you know, in all our elections. You know, why should I, as soon as I say, hey, I want to see inside them? You know, I want some transparency here. elections you know why should i get sued just say hey i want to see inside them you know i want i want some transparency here yeah ian ian often says that election machines should uh public the

source code should be uh open source yeah they should be open you should be show boc hey show us what's inside i used an example once i said if somebody accused my pillow of having rocks and knives in it do you think i'd go around suing you all you just got mike we used them in our pit out here and we've jumped in. There's rocks and knives in them. I wouldn't sue you for saying that. I'd say, no, no, no. Look inside this beautiful patent and fill. I would expose and show you what's inside. There was that guy who called your pillows lumpy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My lawyer, I said, what a jerk. He attacks my pillow and my employees. I think I called him a few names I probably shouldn't have said. But no, but they leaked that out of the deposition.

That's supposed to be private, right? They leaked that out. Then the judge. See, they leaked it to make you look bad, but it was the best thing ever. It was so funny. You know what the lawyer says to me? Then he goes, and this case is still going on. He goes, well, you know, the judge is going to see this. I go, well, good for her.

I got a big problem with Judge Wang out of Colorado. And I do got a big problem with her. You know what that judge did? Here's what she did. This lawsuit started in the summer of 22. So it's so frivolous. What I did is we put in for it to get it dismissed, a dismissal. Well, that's like if I put a lawsuit against you or if anybody did it, that's your first line of defense is, hey, I wasn't at that. It's not even me. You know, you put in for a dismissal. Well, this Judge Wang decided, you know what? I'm not going to rule on the dismissal.

You go ahead and pay for discovery and everything else and move this forward. If I didn't have the resources, if somebody off the street, if a judge did that to them and they were completely innocent and they did that and said, you go spend all this money on lawyers and all this garbage, it was wrong. So this was nine months later when I was in that deposition and I let that judge Wang have it. I said, you know what? You either rule. I don't care if you rule against me. You don't change our country and, you know, change our country and set a precedence where every judge can go, oh, we're not going to do it. I'm not going to rule on the dismissal. You go into discovery. I had had it with her. You know what?

I went on my show that night and I just ripped her up one side and down the other. But she ruled the next day. She ruled against me on the dismissal. But at least she made a ruling. That's all I asked of her. I just wanted the ruling. But that lawyer, that was a whole other deal. Well, he attacked your integrity and your product.

Yeah, he attacked my integrity, he attacked my pill, my company. What does this have to do with you and your crooked client, you know? People don't understand that, you know, they think this country was once, we've always been in some kind of conflict. We've always been in some kind of escalating state of conflict. But in the 90s, things were pretty okay. The Democrats and Republicans got along on most issues and argued. And so that's kind of where people are like, that's when things were pretty good. It was the 90s. We disagreed. There was the impeachment, the scandal, but people generally got along. That's right. Today, we are back in this conflict state where, look, you probably know it better than I do.

When it comes to lawsuits, one of the first things the lawyer asks is, where do you want to file? If you file in a blue area, you lose. If you file in a red area, you win. It's unbelievable. Mine was supposed to be filed while they're both in Minnesota, and they moved it all to D.C. They moved all my cases to D.C. One of them, I sued the other one first. I sued them

and i'm going and they tell me oh your lawsuits are no good mine were ruled out no your lawsuits are no good we're going to dismiss those and now yeah we're going to sanction you i had to learn these new things uh sanctions and you don't have standing i mean the sanction was the worst i asked to see in my own case against a machine company. I won't even name their name. One of them, I'm going, I subpoenaed machines, some in Michigan, to get the machines. It's my evidence, right? It's a couple billion dollars. I think I should get to see my evidence.

The judge ruled, no, you can't see them. And even for asking you, they sanctioned me $24,000, my lawyers, for asking. I mean, you can't make this stuff up. This is in D.C.? In D.C.? No no this was in michigan where i asked for the machines and that judge there sanctioned me yep you know and then they go and then the media used this well it was a trump appointed judge like who cares who appointed the judge my best judge is down in in georgia where obama appointed judge actually it was three and

a half years this case against crooked brad Rassenberger down there, the Secretary of State, and the curling case. Finally, last fall, she said, she made a ruling, said, hey, the experts have looked inside these machines. And she said, we're going to bring this to court and bring it to trial. And she said, and if you question the machines, you're not a conspiracy theorist. I was so happy I got to take off my tinfoil hat on national TV. Jimmy Kimmel, he aired it where I, you know, hey, just because I want to talk about it doesn't mean I'm a conspiracy theorist. So then it goes to her court in January in Georgia. A guy, Halderman, the expert, with a ballpoint pen hacked in to the machine in front of her and changed the election in five minutes. And so now she's in a tough position because she's still delivering.

What do we do now in Georgia to get rid of these machines that were proved right there? There's problems. You know, there's problems. We're not turning over an election, proving that. You're just proving you can't use these devices. That's all it is. And she's got to make a decision. My guess is, well, let's just wait till after 2024.

You know, in Georgia, this is the third election in a row that waited with those machines for a ruling on that case, where crooked Brad Rasmussen, the Secretary of State, a Republican, the biggest uniparty blocker in history, keeps blocking down there and blocking and blocking. And one of the things you said, I really believe when you say our country, when you talk about this division, this argument, I believe what's going on now is uniting the people. I think that I really do. I think it's uniting the people where we're going to get to a common place going, hey, we want to have the American dream here. We want to live our freedoms.

We want to have, you know, it doesn't matter what party you're in, where you have the parties, the media will put this together, that there's arguments here. Like you even said it best, you get less arguments now a year later or two years later at the dinner table where you have this divide. The bad things going are actually uniting. Well, I think this is true of judicial systems in the U.S., right? I think it's actually a very bipartisan feeling to think that you're going to go to court, and if the judge decides they will rule against you, they could potentially

make it extremely difficult for you, that the fees of fighting a lawsuit that maybe you really need to are so overwhelming that you could basically risk everything. I mean, it's something that people of all political persuasions fear, and we're seeing it play out over and over and over again. In all kinds of cases, businesses, political, personal. I mean, it is something that I think the media thought, oh, we'll scare people into believing that this is the way forward. But actually what ended up happening is people are looking around going, this system is going to break me and I cannot keep up with it.

You're exactly right. And I think for the work where God has put me on this platform out there where, you know, I spent most of my time in the inner cities of Minneapolis back in the day. And, you know, like I say, I never voted. And so out there when they see, you know, when I see people all over the country now, it's like they don't come up to me. Oh, you're a Donald Trump supporter. No, they know that I'm out there.

You know, I didn't there. I didn't change. I didn't change from where I was. All of a sudden, I was the CEO of MyPillow. I had an addiction network out there that's free. I was put into this election platforms that I want to secure because it all comes from there. If you don't have fair elections, everything stems from, now you could say the stolen election. I'm talking all elections. I've went around the world.

I've talked to France, Germany, UK, the Netherlands, all these places that have secure elections because they use paper ballots, hand counting. Is it so bad that I voice my opinion? That's what I want. That's what we need. And I can prove it. I can prove that those are the best system. All it took is one judge in Argentina last summer to say, you know what? We're going to go to paper ballots in Hong Kong.

They switched over in four months faster than the Netherlands did. And they had their first fair and fair election they've had in years. Taiwan did it. Ecuador did it. And these are things that I believe the public needs to see here because we have the worst election platform in the world. We're worse than any other country. Do you think that concerns about election security or election integrity are going to

deter people from voting this year? Do you think we'll have low or high voter turnout? I think it's going to be the highest in history because it's flipped on that too. People, people, I told this to Donald Trump too. I said, you know, I said, people are, you know, you always say, hey, let's get everybody to get out and vote. Now you're seeing, like, I'm from Minnesota. It hasn't been read since 1972, okay?

We're the longest in the country. And there, it's like, everybody's engaged to vote because they know, they believe that the system, that the elections are rigged, and that the elections, whether it be the machines, the early voting, the drop boxes, whatever you want to call it, and they believe that, hey, we've got one shot, and we've got to completely override this, and then we can fix the platform.

I'm out there fixing as much as I have. We have over 250 counties that are now going to go to paper ballots, hand counted. You can check that out at lindaleplan.com. I have over 300,000 people in all 50 states, and we work from the county up. Most counties can vote them out themselves and just go to paper. I mean, it's so simple.

But these people that, you know, they feel alone, a lot of them are scared because they've weaponized against them too. And I will say they, and they go, well, who's behind this? All I see in my biggest blockers are these uniparty Republicans. And I'll give you a really good example in Arkansas. This is a red state, and you've got Cleburne County. They voted in their own county to go to paper ballots, and all these other counties were going to follow suit.

This is a little over a year ago. Well, this guy named Kim Hammers, he's a Republican, went to the Senate and shoved a bill through. Here's the bill, how it reads. If you go to paper ballots in Arkansas, we're defunding your county. So right there, it's like racketeering going, hey, hey you either go and what do you think cleburne county do they go oh we're sorry we even thought about it we're going to go back to the machines you know right because whoever has the money is ultimately making decisions that's what i find really

interesting about all of this which is that you know today's votes especially young voters if you're being told constantly your your vote doesn't count matter because you're already in a state that's going to definitely go to whatever candidate or you know anything could happen with the ballots or whatever it is like it actually my concern would be that it would deter people from participating in this normally it would normally it would i'm from minnesota i know like what what good is it it's blue it's always going to be blue but here's the here's another thing that's driving that there'll be i believe this will be the biggest turnout in history for the whole country ever because of what's going on right now the destruction of our economy the things you listed up there the number one was the economy the border the election platforms those three things well you're still going to

go vote because they people know that everything comes from our election platforms. You know, we got to use what we got, however broken it is. We've got to use what we got. And then people say to me, but people say to me, they go, cause there's a big argument. Oh, you go out there and be like the Democrats and vote early. And I'm going rubbish. You know, that's me. I'll say it straight out.

You vote same day. I know from everything I do, you vote same day i know from everything i do you vote same day you get out to vote of course if you can't vote early but but i tell people take those mail-in votes they drop like michigan seven million over the state go everybody just have at it take your vote your ballot that you got sent don't vote early and go in their election day and if they say oh you already voted say no i haven't it's right here wow and that is going to be a great plan and we it is at least 10 times harder for them to sheet on election day and that's that's coming for me i've spent more money and know more about that than these people out there that are saying that and they and i believe we're going to have the biggest vote ever let's

jump to this next story this from the daily mail. Doomsday CEO who correctly predicted the retail apocalypse issues another stark warning about the U.S. economy. It's ready to crack. Bob Nardelli, a respected CEO, blames the Biden administration. So this is not the first time we've heard this. There are numerous stories right now where tons of economists, CEOs are saying the economy is on the verge of shattering. Quote, what I've seen over the past three and a half years is that a series of debacles and missteps have created a tremendous pressure on the fault lines of our economy, and they're about ready to crack. Whoever gets the next stint in the White House is going to be hit with a wrecking

ball in trying to correct the missteps and the overspending of this current administration. So we're in for a rough time, I would say mark that. Take a note down. Screenshot it. Put in your phone because when Donald Trump wins and the economy is in shambles, they're going to blame Trump. And then when things start getting better, they're going to say, oh, well, it's in spite of Trump. But I'll tell you this right now. I can see it. We can see it in the sentiment on the internet. You can see it in all of the comments that we get. And we can see it in ad sales. We can see it in small businesses no longer buying as much in ads.

I don't know. You guys seem to be doing pretty well, though. You're on the rebound with those. Yeah, we are at my pillow. But you realize with us, we're a little different. It's every time you see my pillow ad. But if I only had to live on that, which times I only had to live on doing a little show. So I want to make that as best as I can be.

And it's tracked by a promo code and a 1-800 number, every one of them individually. So if it doesn't make it, I don't run it. So when you see a lot of ads we're doing, it's working. And are we back to where we weren't? No. But the, and then part of that is the economy i can do you know i have to say well is it because of the attacks and everything we've had or is it you know uh the economy their economy is definitely affecting i have another platform

called mystore.com it's all entrepreneurs usa made products i've you know i give them a place a safe haven all of them without that they were so hurting you know they they're hurting because of like you say shipping everything else and that with this economy and um um i i think you know you read that up there that it's going to clack the economy i believe if donald trump i'll say when he's in just on the what everybody knows because he's already been there done that and now it's going to be done now what he's learned it's going to even be better

I think everything's going to just be almost faster than you could ever imagine you know and I really believe that just on you know you see companies like when they do an IPO just on the hope or whatever you know because he's got something to back it up you know, you see companies like when they do an IPO, just on the hope or whatever, you know, because he's got something to back it up. You know, proof

of concept. That's what he has. He has proof of concept. People are going to, they announced that Trump wins, say what is it, November 5th? Is that election day? They announced Donald Trump is the winner. Let's say it's November 6th, 2 in the morning or whatever. You're going to see the market first thing in the morning, go straight up. Everyone's going to be buying. In

2016, it started going up about, you know, right when they figured he was going to win and you could just see it move and i and uh i was i didn't know anything about this stuff then and i asked the guy i asked a friend of mine i said what does that mean he goes it means donald somebody knows donald trump's gonna win yeah so uh trump is securing the border uh deportations control of immigration is going to be better for the economy. You get these leftists who are arguing that, no, no, the unfettered illegal immigration is good for the economy. It's not. It displaces low-skill labor. It displaces the youth.

And so young people can't find work when they need it. That's right. And they end up sitting around doing nothing, getting good at nothing. And then by the time they're in their 20s, they're like, I don't know what to do. Just like with the futures and the stock market that we were talking about. When you get, like when Donald Trump was elected last time, like the business community was like, all right, this guy is friendly to business. He understands how difficult it is to do business with all the regulations.

If you have him elected again, you're going to have the economy respond because the people that actually invest and actually build things are going to say, well, look, it will be a friendly business environment. And signaling that to the economy is a big deal. that it's going to be an unfriendly environment for people to invest, for people to try and build their business. They're not going to because the most important thing for most entrepreneurs is preserving capital. Right. It makes me think of because the Biden administration placed such a priority on all of the environmental policies, regardless of how they affected business. You'll see headlines that are like, you know, the last two coal mines in New England are shutting or coal plants in New England are shutting down and they tout it as this victory right no more coal it's evil but they don't want to talk about the jobs at the cost they'll say oh well anyone who loses a job because this program we're going to transition you into doing this new thing or whatever else but

ultimately they are pushing this this environmentalist agenda at the cost of the economy can you imagine being a business right now and all that is a story like when when all they have to do is be able to come up with a story well we'll go ahead and make sure people have jobs in this area people say oh okay you have a plan then it's fine then it's solved but they don't think about the actual real human beings that have to go through the changing of jobs it's not as easy as oh well we'll just get rid of your jobs and we'll put we'll plug you into other places human beings are not cogs that can just be placed if you're someone who had like worked in an industry for you know 20 years right to be like actually now you have to be uh trained to work on evs instead like what are you gonna do at that

point the biggest displacement of jobs, Tim, you hit it there, is this. When I was in Chicago, I'm doing this big program, Flipping Democrats. I'm going to flip them to this bucket of common sense. And I've talked to them all. We had the room full. By the time we left, I think all 500 were

flipped. There were a lot of Hispanics there. And all of them were very upset of the illegals coming in because they're losing their jobs to the illegals yep and these and i talked to that whole i mean one after another and then now you think of this those illegals that are working you talk about money laundering think of all the people that are hiring them that are paying them cash and not paying their taxes uh on both ways that they're probably undercutting them in a wage anyway because they can you know save it both so i got a legitimate

business with legitimate workers and the next door they got the you know illegal ones and they're of course their labor cheaper everything's cheaper and then i'm suffering here and then pretty soon that this guy might make a bad decision well i gotta join the join and do the illegals too and these guys are losing their jobs um to the uh to the uh these this invasion people people need to understand that there's uh you pay i think 7.5 as a worker and the business pays 7.5 employment tax so if a guy comes in and you know he's like look i just need 20 bucks an, okay, so after taxes, you're going to take home what, $15 or $13 or whatever? Then I got to pay on top, so my total cost is going to be $20. Not interested.

Then an illegal immigrant comes in and he says, I also need $20 an hour. And you go, you know, it's going to cost me $24 an hour to hire that other guy. It's going to cost me $20 an hour to hire you, guy. It's going to cost me $20 an hour to hire you. And you actually keep more of it. I'll tell you what, I'll give you $18 an hour. You're not paying taxes anyway. Saves me $6. And that's how they run it.

That's exactly right. And that's why I believe that's why they didn't make all the illegals legal when they had everything before, when the Democrats did, because I believe that there's all this big money in California, Texas, Arizona, Colorado now, and Minnesota, where they're paying all these illegals cash, and they're not paying federal taxes.

The business owners aren't. Those are billions of dollars. That's big money. Now, this is why they're going to. Two big reasons why Democrats are going to give amnesty the first is they want the votes right the second is they want the tax revenue to maintain the social security administration the concern is that by 2033 the system starts buckling and breaking and then by 2037 it's gone so they bring in 15 million people over the course of a couple years then overnight they get 15 million new voters.

They bolster their majorities in Congress. And they can now target these people with 87,000 new IRS agents to put money into Social Security to prop the system back up. Good point. Yep. Very good point. That's what they're building. And then good luck winning elections ever again when they keep flooding the country and providing amnesty. Yeah, we get one shot at this as far as I'm concerned.

We get one shot. And one of the things at the rally I was just at that I spoke at, and Donald Trump said when he says, as soon as I'm in office, and he was naming the things, addressing all those top three, the third one he said, and I'm going to secure our elections to get to paper ballots, and the crowd went crazy. So it is that those three things you talk about the economy,

the border and our election platform, you know, you secure those three. And I believe we can preserve the American dream. I want to tell a quick story. You know, when you tell people have changed, I was in California. This was a couple of years ago in california this again there's a thing all over the internet when i was there and uh this town was so depressed the gas was 780 a

gallon it was everyone there was 25 to 30 years old i swear and that's where all the old vehicles were i wonder where all the old vehicles went right and the town seemed so depressed but they're all coming up to me and talking to me and going hey mike lindell mike lindell and they're wanting pictures up and i'm talking to them and almost all of them had voted democrat and they're all coming up to me and talking to me and going, hey, Mike Lindell, Mike Lindell, and they're wanting pictures and stuff, and I'm talking to them, and almost all of them had voted Democrat, and they're going, you guys realize, I said, I don't know much about politics, but I said, this is $7.80 gas, and decisions that were made by Donald Trump manifested to good for everybody, right? And they, so anyway, I was educating them.

Well, I went and ate at this restaurant, and this gal came out, the manager came out and they took a picture and they put it up on their social media. The owner did. Well, they got attacked by the media. It was like the number one story in the United States. Mike Lindell goes to this town and they just attack this owner and she wouldn't take this down. She says, you know, all you take your other famous people come here and you don't, you

put, you don't put them up. She goes, no, Mike's the only one that's ever come here. Well, she stood her ground and they were the busiest restaurant now in that california town but my point meaning we left there then so i seen that and we went to the hurricanes in florida and i went there normally you'd see it all of the news my pillow donates 80 million dollars or 80 million pillows to 80 000 pillows to hurricane um harvey katrina whatever they were you know and but this time i didn't say anything i never did the first place i'm down there working with to hurricane Harvey, Katrina, whatever they were. But this time I didn't say anything.

I never did in the first place. I'm down there working with Samaritan's Purse, and we were in a Hispanic trailer court, and all you could see was their worldly possessions on both sides of these dirt roads all the way down. It was like two dikes of just all their physical possession. And we were praying with them. We had interpreters. We were giving them pillows and blankets, but almost bar none, they were coming up and they're going. All they wanted

to hear about is if our country had a chance to hear the American dream, which I've lived on steroids going from where I have to crack. But they have too. They've came from places, came from the bottom, and they have built up their lives. They knew if we could save our country, that they could get those worldly possessions back. The only thing they cared about was losing our country that they came in here legally and live here now because

a lot of them have been to places that don't have our freedoms. That meant so much to me that I think that's what you're seeing all around is people are looking for hope and it doesn't matter what party you're in. That's why I like the story what you're seeing all around is people are looking for hope. And it doesn't matter what party you're in. Well, that's why I like the story that you're telling about this restaurant in California, which is like people can supply each other hope.

They don't have to look to the government or politicians all the time. Like the fact that this woman is being attacked, people are like, no, we're going to go to your restaurant. You do see that on occasion where people will say like, the way you're being treated is wrong and I'm going to stand up in the way I can. Maybe you don't have a media platform. Maybe you just patron their business. I think that's the thing that Americans are really craving right now, sort of amidst all the stress and bombardment of all of these

negative headlines. People want to believe that things can get better. And I think this has been the interesting thing of contrasting the Biden campaign's messaging with the Trump campaign's messaging, which is the Biden administration will say, well, we're the party of hope and we're a party of the future. He said that at one of his rallies and then only talked about January 6th in the past. And Trump really does feel like he is saying, like, things are rough right now, but we're headed towards better waters. And I think people need that message because otherwise it just makes you disenfranchised. Absolutely. You need hope you know my my network and I'll say it at frankspeech.com they that's all I do is put out the hope every day the things we're doing being proactive

and being proactive and out there they and where the hope is I tell people quit watching uh um you know media and even uh you know if I see people depressed out there, I'd say, a lot of them, well, I watch Fox day in and day out. Well, they're not going to tell you the hope. It's mostly depressing. Here's what's going on that's bad, that's bad. And I like to tell people, here's where we have the hope here. Here's what's going on here. People come in, and you combine what's going on right now that's so sad is with the open borders and the fentanyl pouring in, people that are losing hope are turning to addiction or addicts are getting worse. And that's deadly.

And so that's where, you know, I'll go around the country and that's where, you know, I have the LindellRecoveryNetwork.org is free. I built it. I put millions into it before all this election stuff. That's what I was going to do, go out and evangelize and say, hey, there's a better way than not. In Attic, I always say, you wake up with the same problem that you went to bed with, right? No matter how long you stay up. I used to stay up for days smoking crack and everything. Wake up, I had the same problem.

I said, you need a different input to get a different output, you know? I got a question for you. I got a personal question for you is your net uh was your pre-election pre-2020 net worth public information um it was but i was pretty open with it i you know it was you know two three hundred thousand or million dollars is what i think is out there well my question was how much did you end up losing for trying to do your civic duty? Pretty much everything. I spent $40 million that I had in cash

on securing our election platform. That's not the lawsuits. That's just pouring money into, you know, everywhere to try and get to paper ballots and this fight to secure our elections. And then the attack on MyPillow alone, we lost $150 million in box stores in a month and a half. And we were their number one product in every box store in this country.

Everyone we had from Walmart to Costco to QVC, it's a shopping channel, the shopping channel, Bed Bath & Beyond, Kohl's. We're their number one buy-through product in Walmart, in history of Walmart. The number one $50 buy-through was MyPillow, not anything else. And so it's not like they said, hey, your products aren't selling. They canceled us. And they were afraid of social media. When they went after them, they thought those were real people. These were a paid hit job on MyPillow. And I told those CEOs and CMOs back in January of 21, I said, you're making a big mistake. Like, like I talked to Ben Matthew, man, there's CMO. I said, you guys, those aren't real people. The real people

are going to be very upset if you do this, but I wouldn't shut up on TV when I got attacked. I'm going, did you hear about our elections? Yeah, I know I got canceled. I know I got canceled. Heck, I canceled my Twitter and Newsmax. The guy tears his microphone off because I started telling about why I got canceled. So, but it it was millions of dollars, and we're not getting them back. There are a lot of people that, man, they can't go vote. They just can't be bothered to take a day to get up, walk over and go vote, and you are willing to sacrifice hundreds of millions of dollars in a desperate plea to the people to have secure elections.

It's remarkable. I appreciate your well thank you and you know why it's because i learned how important they are you know like i said i told you when i when i met donald trump in the summer of 16 i never i didn't know what liberal from a conservative i didn't know what a democrat republican was if you go back to 15 i was just so so out there. I was busy with my own stuff, my own life. And, you know, but I learned pretty quick that how important politics were and everything we're in. One of the things with Donald Trump, they had an opiate bill that came out. And, you know, this is right up my alley with trying to, you know, help addicts out there and lead them to God and to Jesus. And this is what I was out evangelizing and stuff. But when he invited me to the opiate bill, because in our country,

32 states have laws on the books. This is pretty crazy that you can't treat an addict unless you have four years of college, swim the English Channel, climb three trees, all these rules to treat an addict. Well, I'll tell you what, you've got places like Teen Challenge and Salvation Army. You know who's there that's treating them or counseling them? It's people that have been there. Well, we're an addict. I've been to so many treatment centers back in the day that we did in the 80s.

You go get a DWI, you go to treatment, get your life's back, or a gambling class, whatever it was. And we would go through the motions, and addicts have forgotten more about addiction than these counselors know. And they're looking for hope, and that's why my network, the Lindo Recovery Network, that's hope, and it's free. Didn't Matthew Perry, the actor from Friends, he said during when he was filming that show, he'd struggled with addiction and went out and started addiction recovery centers or rehabs. I think probably similar reasonings, right? Like if you have lost everything because of addiction, you might even feel more called to intervene in someone else's life and say, you know, we need to get you on a different track. Right, you've been there.

And what I do at my network, you'll get to the website. You'll put down your age and your drug of choice. So the commonality of the drug, the big thing in secular treatment centers, they have like a 5% success rate. The God-based, the faith-based one's 80% and up. So what Donald Trump did with that opiate bill, when he did that opiate bill, everyone was arguing, fighting over this money, right? And he came up with a plan, a common sense solution. He says, you know what? I don't care what your curriculum is or what you have to do, but you need to show a 50% or more success rate.

And they better do it, right? So what a great thing that he put in place there. Let's give the money to the things that are working, right? And that was a common sense solution. It's prioritizing effectiveness instead of being like well everyone needs the money my point for him is to dig in even on something like that these are big things that affects people lives and i i've seen how politics are decisions made i don't call it politics the people that are in charge the decisions they make affect everything

we do where before i lived a life going i can ignore that i was from minnesota you know my biggest thing in politics ever when jesse ventura ran and when i i kind of watched the tv go wow that's interesting you know i didn't know but i thought it was pretty cool it was interesting it was something different right you know so let's uh let's jump to the story from the new york times buzzfeed clashes with vivek ramaswamy the former gop presidential candidate who has invested in buzzfeed believes the company needs to pivot. He wants to see commentators like Tucker Carlson in its lineup. Shout out to Vivek on one of the ballsiest moves I have seen.

This is how you do it. I don't know if Vivek is sitting there watching Elon Musk being like, I'm jealous. You know, he buys Twitter, turns it into X, brings a bunch of accounts back. Vivek buys, what has he got, like 8.3% of BuzzFeed. Sent a letter to the company's board of directors saying they've got to change their business practices and journalistic efforts. They say though he has been steadily buying up stock

for months, his intentions for the company didn't become clear until this week. Before his brief run for president, he made a fortune in the pharmaceutical business. He's pushing BuzzFeed to add three new members to its board to hone its focus on audio and video content and embrace greater diversity of thought.

Yeah, I gotta be honest. If BuzzFeed brought on Tucker Carlson, their market value would go tenfold. Bang. I don't know they can afford Tucker Carlson. They gotta pay him a lot of money.

LeVay threw out also Aaron Rodgers and Candace Owens, right? Like what he's saying is you guys had this old model and you had some success but it's all falling apart now

and you need to you need to adopt a strategy. And I'm here to say like one of the lines in his letter that he wrote to them was, you know, I know you're going to

instinctively reject what I'm saying because of partisan attitudes but I think you should try instinctively reject what I'm saying because of partisan attitudes. But I think you should try and think about what I'm saying and the fact that 150 million Americans tend to look at the world the way I do. Like if you really want to be a sustainable business, you can't be siloed in one opinion. And I found that really fascinating. And I think, you know, the fact that he has a business background and seeing him sort of see this opportunity is fascinating, partially because this was like a stealth plan. He started buying these in January. Right.

And he basically acquired somewhere over three million shares just really quietly. He did this like we were covered at Scanner last week. I think it was May 22nd. He had seven point seven percent of the company. And since then, he's he's gone up above eight. And his message was basically, I'm going to continue doing this, moving up his importance among the shareholders and saying, you could turn this around, but you have to do it this way. And I find this fascinating. It's good. It's a good business decisions. You know, I have frankspeech.com. We're on everything, Roco, everything now. But we add people. I add Lou Dobbs to our lineup in January.

You're adding and getting the word out is, you know, to me for right now, I had Lou Dobbs, who I line up in January. You're adding and getting the word out. It's, you know, to me, for right now, I think the biggest thing that has changed in our country that's helped, and I bring this up all the time, and this is our voice. I tell people January 7th and 8th of 2021 were two of the most important dates in history. Now, I don't know how long you've had this podcast, but I'm going to tell you why. On those two days, 1.2 million Americans were deplatformed, whether you were on Vimeo, YouTube, Suckabucks, Facebook, Twitter. Donald Trump lost his 100 million on Twitter and all this. Everybody was silenced that had spoke out about anything to do with the elections or

for that matter, vaccines, anything, anything they spoke out about that they decided to silence them. But the other one, everyone else was in fear because of January 6th. So at that point, no one's going to talk about anything. The media, they had silenced us, kind of like Nazi Germany. So I always compare it when I was growing up to a little black and white TV. We'd turn it off, it'd go down to a little tiny dot. And we as kids would turn it back on and the black and white TV would come back to life. You see

who could get it the smallest. That voice was our dot that day. And like Ronald Reagan said if we're like a beacon of light on a hill, if the lights go out here, they go out everywhere. That's the day when we got past those two days where that dot didn't that voice did not go out. And since that time we've grown all these other media platforms like this.

Podcasts have grown. Everything's going. So we're not getting our information from one source anymore. It's so diversified. You don't have just two social media platforms. You have a dozen. You know what I mean? BuzzFeed's market cap right now is around $120 million.

Donald Trump just got, didn't he just earn some $1.something billion bonus from Truth Social? Yep. Trump could sell like 3% of his Truth shares and buy all of BuzzFeed. Right. So let's say he doesn't do that. Let's say he sells, you know, half a percent and then just buys a controlling stake of BuzzFeed. Right. Let's roll.

What's he got going on? Well, the CEO responded to this letter from Vivek basically being like, you don't understand our market. You misunderstood. But as a shareholder, I welcome your feedback. And I think that's actually, you know, so BuzzFeed has had a ton of problems. I mean, we've talked about on the show. They've had layoffs.

They had to close BuzzFeed News. But I think his name is Jonah Peretti. And I think he is kind of becoming the obstacle, right? Like any company is, they're responsive to the board and the shareholders, but if their CEO is like, no, we're doing fine, it's going to need a change in leadership to embrace any kind of new idea. All that matters is that Vivek keeps buying up more and more. Yeah. And I think this works out in favor for Vivek. When Vivek comes in and says, you guys are failing. You've got massive debt. You're hyper-partisan. You went from a billion dollar valuation

down to less than 10% of your valuation. The CEO coming out and saying, nah, we're good. Stock price is going to go down further. That's right. I don't care if it's Vivek buying the hostile takeover or if it's Elon Musk law-faring media matters or if it's Peter Thiel going after, what was it? Who did Peter Thiel? Because of the Hulk Hogan. Gawker?

Gawker, yeah. Taking them out. The Hulk Hogan. Yeah, I don't think this is a bad thing at all. Who did Peter Thiel because of the Gawker Gawker? Yeah. Taking them out. The Hulk Hogan. Yeah, I don't I don't think this is a bad thing at all. If you've got media companies or whatever that are targeting individuals that are going after people and, you know, messing up their lives in a, you know, essentially just so they can get a story. Sometimes it's political. Sometimes it's not.

But for the most part, it's just to get a story. Sometimes it's political, sometimes it's not. But for the most part, it's just to get a story. I mean, look, someone might come after you and mess up your business as well. That's the way that it goes. I don't see any kind of problem with it. No, I think it's fascinating. And again, I think because Vivek had such a meteoric rise during the Republican primaries, I think the question was, well, what's next for him?

And it is interesting to see someone who has been really successful in the pharmaceutical and biotech industry, involved in drug tech research, kind of pivot to being like, well, I can see that you were successful at one point. And I think I know where you're going wrong. And to sort of put this challenge out there to a media company, right? Like is,

is Buzzfeed really trying to stay afloat or are the politics, the most important thing to them? I actually was kind of surprised to see that Buzzfeed still existed, to be completely honest. When I heard the story that the bank was buying, I was like, really? Cause I know Buzzfeed.

I think you're going to see a lot of shift in where you thought, like we thought all these outlets that did destroy themselves, basically, that they're going to be taken and they're going to have to change or they will go out and they will be done. Look at this. Number one trending story on BuzzFeed right now, 24 celebrities who are 100% all in for Donald Trump 2024 2024 wow so it changes as soon as you click on the headline 24 celebrities you might not know are big trump supporters that's not even a bad one

it seems like and there's nothing negative here it's just showing them it seems like uh they may be listening to the vague i gotta be honest i bet other shareholders are probably saying jonah he ain't wrong look Look at the meteoric rise of all of these podcasts and how well they're doing. There's money here you're not tapping into. And so sooner or later, Prady's going to

go to his executive editor or editor-in-chief and say, guys, we need more pro-Trump content. You'd think that they'd look at Joe Rogan and be like, we could do that. Yeah. It's not that Joe's got a great thing going on and his personality is a huge part of why he's so successful. But also his recipe is not particularly complex.

Have a conversation and listen to the person that you're sitting down talking to and don't misrepresent what they say. Right. I mean, look, famously, at least for me, BuzzFeed was known for its quizzes, right? Where it would have these ridiculous quizzes, you know, tell me what your Taco Bell order is and I'll tell you, you know, your dream mansion. I think honestly, they could lean into this in a soft way and be like, here's a quiz where we'll tell you what Donald Trump meme you are or, you know, whatever. Like, it doesn't have to be like they become 100% go hard for the MAGA movement. I understand that, right? But if you're trying to capture more people, you have to present more than just this one side is dumb and bad. And here's how we're going to talk about it all the time. Why would anyone go there? On top of the fact that especially, you know, a lot of their

media ended up being just kind of repetitive. You can't bring in new innovative creators, like people writing the articles or making the quizzes or doing whatever, if you're only siloed in one area of opinion. You're not going to bring in new talent by being like, but we only talk about things this way. The list is pretty obvious. It's people you probably knew about. But I did not know that the naked cowboy of Times Square was a Trump supporter. That's a twist. Are you familiar with the naked cowboy? Good for him.

I didn't know he was. I know who he is. You've heard of him, right? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny. He's been going on, what, it's like 20 years? Or how long has he been in Times Square?

It's been a long time. Yeah, that's wild. Kelsey Graham or a Trump supporter? I didn't know that. Yeah, that doesn't shock me. Yeah. They're all old people, though. Old white dudes.

No, actually. And it's like young rappers. Right. No, for real. I love that. I love that Trump is the thing those two groups have in common. That's hilarious. You know, look.

I was telling this to the libertarians. The libertarian party is unfortunately like a lot of them. They're the people that pay attention. And regular people mostly don't pay attention. So for people who are hyper plugged into the news and they want the most esoteric policies, they're going to be finding themselves the Libertarian Party. The realists who are not revolutionaries who pay attention to the news are going to find themselves supporting Donald Trump. And the people who only listen to MSNBC and other regurgitated corporate garbage are going to find themselves supporting Donald Trump. And the people who only listen to MSNBC and other regurgitated corporate garbage

are going to be crying because Donald Trump is a fascist and they need Joe Biden to save them. That's where we're currently at in this country. That's right. And now you've got, I think what we see with this Trump trial is the Democrats and the judge basically hoping that their voter base

and what they're trying to do is, they know we know but they're hoping the people who don't pay attention are going to go whoa yeah well this is what i think it's too late for them because like i say in the last three years people are getting their news for it's so diversified now they're not getting like you're saying you're staring at msnbc and cnn hypnotized i know this from my own family members it's took a long time for my extended family to know where these guys have come at least to the middle and going because they quit watching those and they're they're just social media but it's even changing there on social media i watched a i watched a little a fight, okay? I always watch that.

I'll watch these bots and trolls fighting real people, right? And they're arguing with them. And there's overwhelming of the trolls and bots. A few years ago, it wasn't like that. You really, and people don't realize, all you got to do is click on the bot. You see they have two circles going. They have no friends, right? Two friends.

But they'll sit there. And that has even changed. You look at any feed, and you'll have real people here, even on a very left feed, and there'll be this feed, and you'll see all these people there, and you'll have people there that have crossed over the common sense. You can see that they used to, and now they're arguing on there, where before they're either sitting back and taking all these attacks, but now they're sticking up, and it's almost, you know, they're overr back and taking all this attacks but now they're

sticking up and it's almost you know they're overriding the computer bots you know yeah a lot of people are like on x people have complained quite a bit they're like my engagement is way down and i'm like because you get rid of the bots yeah that's right so uh a lot of the engagement is like a raw number like percentage of people who viewed your tweet or liked it or not even it's not even about whether they like it or not or comment. It's that the government, corporations, foreign adversaries, they're running bots on X. And X probably loved it because they were like,

it inflates our advertiser numbers, who cares? Elon says we're getting rid of all of it. And now you're starting to see the actual human interaction. Yep, you're 100% right. I used to advertise, you know know everywhere and on that platform um twitter was my worst platform i'm going how can this viewership be this high because of the electronic or the bots 100 i mean when my book came out even though it was banned everywhere and all you know right when all the box stores did it you know i pre-printed three million copies and all all of a sudden, they're going, no, no, we can't have that here. But I put it up on Twitter and put it all the other places.

And you would think that would get the most buys and most views. It got most views, but it was bots. And everywhere else, I'm going, that doesn't make sense. I'm a numbers guy. They're defrauding you. Yeah, they're defrauding me. I should sue them. No, this is a big deal.

I'm paying money for advertising. It's like going to a carnival. You've got 100 fish in a pond, and I charge you $10, but I only give you bait that only 10 can bite on because the other 90% aren't real. Yep, they throw a bunch of fake fish in the pond and say, yeah, you can go fish there. There you go.

Fish away. Look, they're everywhere. And they know the views are fake. They know the bots are on the account. And this has been going on for, I mean, as long as it's been around, it's gotten worse and worse and worse. Elon's cleaning the problem up. Yeah, he is. He really is.

Yeah. So people need to understand they're complaining about their viewership going down, but your engagements are real people now. They got the blue check on them. You know, my favorite thing about this was? When Elon was talking about buying the platform and then charging money, I said, this is the smartest thing

in the world because it means that if the deep state wants to run sock puppet accounts, they got to pay Elon to do it. Elon's a businessman, right? He looks at X and he's like,

he goes to his friends and you know, like what is it? Gigafund or whatever, the investment company that works with them. And he's like, so you mean to tell me that the deep state is running millions of fake accounts for free and they're like yes and so if i buy the platform and then charge them five dollars i'll just make a hundred million dollars per month it's like if they pay it okay let's buy

let's do it it's a deep state weapon they use to manipulate public opinion elon bought it they freak out and he's like yeah you gotta pay now right and then they don't so here you go right check out this story let's jump to the story the guardian reports trump reportedly considers white house advisory role for elon musk let's go the wall street journal reports the pair have had several phone calls recently and that Musk could assist if Trump wins another term. You'll love to see it. They said the two men who once had a tense relationship have had several phone calls a month since March as Trump looks to court powerful donors. Musk and Trump connected in March at the estate of billionaire Nelson Peltz, since then the two have discussed various policy issues, including immigration, which Musk has become vocal about in recent months.

America will fall if it tries to absorb the world, Musk tweeted. So Elon was apparently on some advisory board in the first term, right? And then ended up leaving or something. I think Elon took a red pill. I think he started to see more and more of what was going on he started to realize more and more of what he was being lied to about when they started attacking him you know what it was for for elon probably tesla this amazing electric car manufacturer should be cherished by all of these eco nuts right and they kept attacking him and then biden comes

out and says all of these great things of these other companies but not Elon and he's like whoa hold on yeah he's like I'm I'm making electric cars we're number one why am I not included any of this and then he realized it's because it's not actually about what they're saying it's about and then one step at a time he starts to realize what's going on he buys he wants to buy x by twitter they attack him and now he's just well he's at the highest level of your eyes getting open. Yep. If you take everyone in these last three years, the 2020 election, to me, will be the most important election in history

for what it's done the last three years is open people's eyes. And there's the highest level you can say, Elon Musk. His eyes got open. He's got blinders on. I think everybody was shocked when he buys Twitter and goes, wow. I got my Twitter back. I'm going, you're kidding. And all my people are still there.

I was blown away. It brought back my pillows, Twitter. That one that got banned, that was the first. In Twitter, I always tell people this story. When I got out of the news, because I kept trying to raise my hand, going, hey, our country, this has happened with our election platforms and all this. And when they banned me on Twitter, my personal Twitter, that was done earlier in January. Well, all of a sudden, the media wouldn't attack me anymore. So it went silent. So I'm going, well, what's going to make

the news now? I know. What if I lose my pill as Twitter? So I really, I sat up. It was 12. I'll never forget. It was 12 o'clock midnight. I'm sitting there, I go, okay, I'm going to go over, the last post on Twitter was from my addiction director and she had wrote this beautiful thing, here's who Mike Lindell really is and all. I said, that was the last thing that was ever written before I

lost my personal Twitter. So I'm over on Elon, or I mean on Jack Dorsey's Twitter, and I'm over there on MyPillow going, Jack, we know, you know, and I'm putting comments over there and they, and I'm over there on my pillow going, Jack, we know, you know, and I'm putting comments over there and they have all the bots and trolls that go, Jack, kick my pillow off, he's using another Twitter, he's been kicked off of Twitter.

You know, they're just attacking me and I'm going, I want to go to bed, so I want him to ban it, right, so I can wake up in the morning and make all this news and start telling people about the election again. He wouldn't take about three things and I go, I know. I go three things. I go, I know. I go, Jack, I go, I know you were in on this, and I look forward to the day you go to prison.

Boom, my Twitter went down. I could go to sleep. I wake up in the morning at 7 o'clock. Number one story in the world. My pillow loses their Twitter account. That was new of our company to lose their Twitter account, even though we weren't making a lot of money off it, because I told you all the bots and trolls don't buy pillows, right? You know, so I sacrificed that,

but I was able to get the word out in the news. And that was a famous thing on being on Newsmax where the, you know, they were having me on shows to say, you know, you got canceled, Mike, you got canceled, that's terrible. But I couldn't say why I got canceled, you know, because I wanted secure elections. I couldn't say anything.

And here the guy rips his microphone off and walks off the set which made the number one how did your employees react to that because I assume your employees are not necessarily all political they're like no they're not at all company we want to work on it here is my family and stuff so they uh they've always just trusted me you know I built it from the ground up I think we didn't with no money with nothing it was all hard work and they've a lot of me. I built it from the ground up. I think we didn't, with no money, with nothing. It was all hard work. And they've, a lot of them with me for a decade. We have careers at MyPillow. So it was a lot of trust.

It's going, obviously, and they know me. I never give up. Once I've done my due diligence, I will never back down, ever. My moral compass is what it is. I can't unsee what I see or unknow what I know. They know I was never backing down. And a lot of them, they've been afraid for their jobs, probably more so this year because of the attacks have even been up even more.

But as we were losing stuff around us, the walls are getting turned on. Here goes another box store. Here goes another box store. Now, did my board of directors, some of them, some of them left right away. They just, you know, they were not, they weren't part of of the company but they were bored and uh the one made a public comment i don't believe uh mike and i don't have the same that grew up with him as a mayor of our town i grew up with him and all of a sudden he walks off the board because you know he didn't want to be associated with mike lindell at that time and so but the employees they've you know we've stuck together

we're like a family and and that and that's uh and it's sad because it's an employee-owned company. I'm just the biggest stockholder. So when things do happen, like this last getting canceled where they've debanked us and everything, where it gets scary for them sometimes, and I'm just, you know, we go through a lot of prayer. We give God the glory, and that's what it's gotten us through, basically. And we have a lot of policies at MyPillow where, you know, for example, if someone dies, they're close to. We're not like corporate America. We're going, well, if it's your immediate family, you can take three days off.

If it's your cousin, you better be at work tomorrow. If someone dies, they're an employee, and they're close to them, we don't ask them who it is. It could be their neighbor. They take off, and we pay them until they're ready to come back to grieve whatever. And same way if they're hurt, if it's critical, if they have someone critical in their family, we pay while they're gone. We pay them, go take care of them. And then we have another thing too, addiction, because that's so, we'll hire people for second

chances. And if somebody does get caught or whatever, they almost expose themselves. I could almost name what the addiction is. We'll go get them the help that I want to give them. I'll pay for the help and pay their wage while they're getting help because addicts will use the excuse. Well, I got to support my family. Well, good for you special. Okay. You're spending all the money over here. I'll put you in. I'm going to pay you while you're in treatment, while you're getting help and you're going to come out, and it's been amazing. And nobody's really took advantage of it. And it's just, so they know I have their back,

and they've had my back. And you're right, it's no politics. I would say, you know, a lot of them have switched to Donald Trump now, but this was not political. Right, they didn't start selling pillows. They were more probably the other way when it started out in here. You know, when I backed him in 2016 after meeting him, everyone's going, in fact, my board, this is an interesting story. I met Donald Trump on April 15th or August 15th of 2016.

This famous meeting I went into and alone. And we talked about earlier in the show. Well, I went back to Minnesota and I was excited to tell the media, you know, they were my I was media's darling. I was excited to tell the media you know they were my i was media's darling i was excited to tell him hey i met this this presidential candidate i wanted to tell him what it was like because i had talked to his employee i went back there and my board stood around and then one of my one uh and he was a liberal he's a liberal democrat my one attorney and he goes you're gonna lose half our company if you do a press release i go why would i lose half the company i I didn't know.

I was just naive going, because I met the guy, I just want to tell people about him. And so I walked out of the boardroom and my CMO came out. She goes, we didn't get this all this way by you not listening to God. I've got to pray about what I do, be proactive. I come back in there. I go, we're going to do that press release. And so I do the press release, right?

And I couldn't believe it. It was like shocking. The Tribune on the line and all this stuff and all these people I broke bread with, all these reporters that would come out every, how many more employees do you have? Mike, you're the American dream, ex-crack guy, you got 1,500 employees. They turned on me. And one of the things was they called me a drug dealer, right, in this thing. Now that, I never dealt a drug dealer right and this thing now that i go i never

dealt a drug in my life and i'm going you know i tried to rid minneapolis of drugs by doing them all you know that was my deal right i tried to save everybody i just wanted to do them all or i would give them away and and even my drug dealers my ex-drug dealers were upset about seeing these comments so they did we were all about pulling back getting that retracted which they did, we were all about pulling back, getting that retracted, which they did. They retracted that statement. But it was an attack. I'm going, what did I do? It was something new to me. But maybe that was training for way down the road here.

Right. You know, when I spoke at the Rose Garden that time for up there, when the virus came on, the China virus, and then the president had me speak there what my pillow was doing to help the country and uh i did that and we were attacked i was attacked you think i killed someone 109 interviews in five days do you think that the box stores will ever bring my pillow back i don't there's been um there's been uh a couple that have came on since then like ollie's came on and they but some stayed with us the great he, like Menards and Fleet Farm, like the hardware stores, all these hardware stores. They stayed with us. The number one selling in these Montparnard hardware stores to across the country was MyPillow, not a jar of paint.

So a lot of them stayed with us. But none of the ones left have come back. And I remember back when it happened, I was on Sean Hannity's show, and I said, they're never coming back if they leave now. And he goes, oh, Mike, you'll change your mind. Don't say like that. And I'm going, you know, to the point now, you know, would I take them back now? Well, I'm sure it was a business decision they made.

A lot of them were in fear. They had to make a decision. I know now more what the attacks were, and they had to make a decision to their stockholders, to their thing. Kohl's, I know, was one. We're their number one selling product. Their CEO or their whatever, I got a call, and, you know, will you quit bad mouth?

And Kohl's, you know, this was during the time I go, you guys are canceling us. I said, so I gave him a special one day all by himself and said Kohl's canceled us, you know. I was spreading him out. But knowing what I know now, would I gave him a special one day all by himself and said, Coles canceled us. I was spreading out. But knowing what I know now, would I take them back if they did? Absolutely. I've got, you know, it's like people always say, well, Mike, you advertise on CNN and they attack you. And I'm going, or you advertise on Fox, but you bad mouth them every day. And I'm going,

you know what? I separate business for what I'm doing over here, what they do to me or whatever they attack. that's their deal wow i i didn't realize menards is the third largest home improvement uh in the country and they're a great great family-owned company and they they see they made decisions based on i knew them you know hey we're not we're not gonna fall for this social media these attacks and they stuck with us fleet farm was another one and they uh um and they it'd be a surprise had those box stores stay with us as my pillow when we for my pillow first came out like at walmart they were 59.98 it was their number one buy through in history that was like in 2011 or 12 and as the price

came down as we got better at manufacturing my patented foam got better we could bring the price down then it went down to 49.98 and it was the number one buy-through at $49.98, their history, and everything, QVC everywhere. Then when it dropped down to $39.98, now that was the drop. That and a two-pack would have been $29.98 for, you know, $59 for two. When that drop would have been made, that was right when they canceled. It would have been the other stores that stayed with us. They couldn't keep them. I mean, there were walls of them at Menards

and Pleat Farm. So these box stores, they sacrificed the fear of public opinion, even though the public turned on them. After this happened, up and down the western seaboard like Bed Bath & Beyond, people were filling up grocery carts in Bed Bath

& Beyond, going to the front and then say, where's your MyPillows? They say, we don't have them, and leaving their carts there. They were doing this on purpose. It was like a big protest. And Bed Bath & Beyond is not here anymore. I feel bad they made bad decisions and sitting like coals and all these, but they sacrificed money. We were their number one selling product.

And Walmart, they've got 10,000 products overseas that they make in China. I got a whole different thing with Walmart. A beef with them where they attack entrepreneurs and stuff where you invent a product and it shows up in Walmart or there it is on Amazon and you can't fight that. That's why I created MyStore.com where I give these guys a safe haven. I bring the geese to the pond, so to speak. So I bring the people to that outlet, and then they can buy their products for all these entrepreneurs and made in the USA stuff.

But it's a long answer to your question. I don't believe they will. Maybe they will down the road when they say, when everyone says, hey, it's okay that Mike Lindell wanted paper ballots hand-counted. And, you know, maybe at that point, where the public— But not in the near future, is what you're saying. You don't think it'll be in the near future? It could be next year.

It could be the year after, whatever. But by that time, I don't think any company could have survived what MyPillow did, and I think they knew that. Back then, they wanted to kill my voice. It wasn't about, they wanted me to stop talking about our election platform, period. They wanted me to stop talking. That's why last summer, you think they're attacking me now because I want to overturn the 2020 election? No. I announced last August a plan to secure our elections.

And when I announced that, from that time on, the banks debanked us, the American Express, all these different things, they cancel, cancel, cancel. And because I want to go to paper ballots, there's big money out there attacking my pillow. They can't figure if Mike's out of money, he's going to quit talking. That's wrong. I'm going to talk. I don't care. I'll borrow my money, which I have. I borrowed millions and millions of dollars, put myself in debt, and I will keep doing it until we save our country and get our American, you know, God's got me doing, God gave me this platform and I'm doing, I pray about what I'm doing. I'm not going to stop. All right. Let's go to super chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? One like equals one FGB and then then head over to TimCast.com. Click join us because the

members only uncensored call-in show will be coming up in about 25 minutes. You don't want to miss it. It's going to be a lot of fun. And you as members get to call in and hang out. So again, smash the like button and we'll read your Super Chats. We got Kyle who says, thank you so much for asking RFK about my question about reparations. Looks like those farmers deserve their settlement since they won a settlement. Right on. Well, thanks for the super chat. Token Black Guy says, howdy, people.

Mike, I got a pair of your slippers for my birthday. They're amazingly comfortable. So I've got my second pair. And I want to tell entrepreneurs, like, let's take the slippers. I reverse engineered what slippers should be. This guy came to me. This is kind of funny how things can be invented. He came to me.

It's called impact gel. It's made out of soybeans. He puts his hand out, puts this gel over the top, this piece of gel, and he whacks his hand with a hammer. I'm going, you know, what's wrong with you, right? He jumps, he puts the thing out here, and he jumps down, and he goes, what it does is spreads the way in the, it's called the impact shell, right? It's a patent he's got on it.

And I said, wow, these would be great inside shoes or slippers, right? So if you ever cut your, my slipper in half, you would see inside, other big brands, you're going to see like cardboard, just garbage in there. I mean, seriously. Inside, you're going to see my pillows patented foam you're going to see a memory foam and that impact gel so when you wear them it's like you're wearing the most comfortable shoes ever and uh when we came out with them um i did a show once it was in i think it was in kentucky it was like 2 000 people i was It was an addiction event. We're talking about addiction. Everybody wore their slippers and one guy

had to say, hey, could you autograph my slippers? I mean, three hours later, it was so weird. This is an interesting sales tactic to say, well, go ahead and cut your product in half and see how good it is and then order another pair. Let's go. We got St. Miles says, just wanted to say, hey, Mike, I got my king-sized

pillows and covers today. Everybody's chatting to let you know they got their MyPillow stuff in the mail. That's awesome. Well, so I was saying, I think I was saying this

before the show that we moved to the new studio and so we needed towels. I needed a new pair of slippers. We needed pillows, of course. And so Allison was thinking like, should we go to Walmart or something?

And I was like, no, no, no, no. MyPillow's got that thing now. It's like 25 bucks for everything. And she was like, oh, okay, no. My pillow's got that thing now. It's like $25 for everything. And she was like, oh, okay. And then she just bought a ton of stuff. Came in a big pack. So can I give you a promo code to use on the show for the guests?

Sure. Well, promo code Tim. How about that? There you go. Jack Posobiec will be heartbroken. Yeah, no, you can use promo code Tim. Finally, you can enter this competition he has with this water. Does that exist already?

Yeah, absolutely. Oh, wow. I set it up. Promo code Tim or Pool. You can use either one. Tim or Pool. Yeah, Tim or Pool. Or Tim Pool.

It already exists. I set it up before I got here. But yeah, you get all the discounts there. Everything, those $25 extravaganza. And we've got our six-piece towel sets, $25. We've got the premiums. We're all started. You know, we've sold 83 million.

My pillows. No, 83. That's incredible. If everyone would have told me that back when I invented it, you know, I was going for years and years going show to show selling one pill at a time,

but 83 million, we bought 300. Yeah. Yeah. When we opened the park, I wanted to have a, my pillow pit. I just thought it would be hilarious.

And 300 was on enough. Yeah. It was, it was it was it was efficient it was cool yeah but i wanted it bigger and i when i got here i was like wow we need more pillows but you know you got your guys hooked us up yeah because we called uh we talked with jack and then we talked to your guys yeah and we were like not only do we need the pillows we need them fluffed right you know and they said we'll get it done for you. Yeah, we set them whole. Yeah, I remember that. And, you know, these are the premium. These are the MyPillows that we've sold the $83 million.

And I want to say one more thing with that. Those are also $25, whether you get king or queen or any loft level, which is the lowest price in history. You know what I've been doing? When these box stores cancel, when they cancel, because we still get cancellations. They'll put in a PO. And we'll go, okay.

And this just happened a while back. And we're just selling stuff. People go, how can you sell stuff that low? Well, we don't have a middleman in the box stores. They take 50 to 55 points if everybody knows out there. So if they were paying 25, that's why you were paying 50 in the box stores, right? And so this loss, I choose my pillow. I tell people all the25, that's why you were paying $50 in the box stores, right? And so this loss, I choose my pillow. I tell people all the time, that's their loss.

Now, you think if any one of them wanted to come back and have a draw, box stores look for advertising. They look for advertising on TV, and then people will come into any infomercials or commercials. Then they come into the box stores. If you take out that, they're all buying direct now. How long did it take you to, I mean, you started, you made a pillow, you were traveling around, and then how did you get from there to selling millions?

Yeah, the real quick story, in 2004. Now, remember, I quit crack cocaine in 2009, January 16, 2009. And I had sold my bars. My bars had not a good place for an attic, and I didn't want to sell them. It I had sold my bars. My bars I had had, not a good place for an attic. And I didn't want to sell them. It was a series of circumstances. I was devastated at the time. But I sold them, and I took all my money.

I put it in. I had this pillow idea. And I had problems with pillows. They'd go flat. I'd use my arm, fold them, and I'll end up in this pillow pile. About nine months to a year, we tried everything. I remember my son and I out on the deck. We'd have foam flying all over the place, one of my sons,

and all through the neighborhood. But finally, one day, we're going, wow, we got it. And I wanted something you could adjust, and it would hold there, right? It was a simple concept. But then I also reversed it. I'm going to make one you could wash and dry. I'm going to make one that will last 10 year warranty and all that. So I was so stubborn to get it exactly what I wanted to solve everybody's problem. Well, then when I had it, it's funny, I went into a bad

bathroom beyond in Minnesota and I walked in there and I was probably not on drugs that day. I can't say for sure, but I walked in there and I, and I go, I got this pillow. I go, I go, you're the manager. Yeah. Yeah. And I said, you go, you guys got to got this pillow I go I go you're the manager yeah yeah and I said you go you guys got to carry this pillow I didn't know anything about retail or anything I said it's the best pillow ever and I'm I'm all excited about he goes um you need to leave now out of here and so none of the boxers wanted me and I didn't know what to do and and I finally said Mike do a kiosk and I said well how do you spell kiosk you know what I spell what is it so we did a kiosk but I was afraid to talk to public then.

I couldn't talk to public. It was very almost fear of speaking, right, and public speaking. Well, we did this kiosk, and it completely failed. But I was there one day, and the one day, my wife at the time and four little kids, and we put all our money into it. We had left the world, and we sold like, I think, 60 pillows in that month. But the day I was there, I sold one to this guy, and he goes, do you have a business card? I go, oh, I'm all out.

I didn't have a business card. I wrote my name on a piece of paper and gave it. And so we go through Christmas completely broke, borrowed money, I think, from an ex-bookie to buy Christmas presents. And this guy calls me in January. He goes, hey, are you the guy that invented this pillow in Minnesota here? And I go, yeah. He goes, well, it changed my life. He said, and I run the Minneapolis Home and Garden Show.

Would you like a spot in there? And I go, sure. Can I give you a check? And anyway, I get this spot and I I put in there and I put a table up so that people couldn't get my space you know because I could talk to them better and I put a bold statement up guaranteed the most comfortable pillow you ever owned I'm selling these pillows and I sold 12 that day and the next day they all 12 paid to get back in the show and came to the booth and go this pillow changed my life.

They're telling me this. And the feeling I got by helping people wasn't about the money. It was so cool that I had helped these people. And I was just hooked on that. So I did shows and fairs for all the way up to 2011. I quit cracking everything in 2009. But in 2011, I told my friends and family, I said, you guys, let's do an infomercial.

I said, it's going to be the biggest one in the world, and we all pooled our money. I didn't know infomercials don't work. They're only to get you in the box stores, which didn't want me, right? Which has come full circle. So we go to film this in August of 2011, and I wanted a wanted a real audience remember i couldn't talk in front of people this was kind of crazy that i wanted this audience but i had it in my head and i wanted to do it like i did it at the shows well we brought it it was me and this gal that used that sold pillows too and they had brought this producer from hollywood and he texts the other guy we are

doing our reads he goes this is the worst guy i've ever seen he'll make it never make it on tv he goes just quiet he's paying you well i get out there the next day and i was petrified i'm walking and it took an hour to do one line i couldn't talk in front of the people and and i think i went said a quick prayer in the bathroom i came back out i said can we bring a table in and throw away the teleprompter i just want to do it like you know because i was so passionate about the pillows by then you know know, that cause they were, you recreated what you were doing at the trade shows. Exactly. So we brought the table in, I pretended the audience wasn't there. And I was living in my sister's basement. This was August 7th, 2011. It aired the first time at like three in the morning. It was like surreal for me. I'm seeing myself on TV and went, wow.

And, and I had trained a call center in Connecticut to take my calls. Well, on the second day of this commercial, it just exploded. And I told my patent and phone company, I said, you guys, I need 30-day credit. I said, I'm going to go from $100 million to $200 million overnight. They're going, okay, we'll give you a 30-day credit. Well, what happened then, on the second day, I remember calling that call center and going, yeah, what's in that pillow? The guy goes, I don't know, Google it. I go, Google it.

I'm on the phone. I fired the call center. We built our own in two weeks. I had 10 employees. 40 days later, I had 500. They go, Mike, you need to be CEO. I go, why do I want to be a CEO? I didn't really know what they were.

I go, I just want to make pillows here and help people. And they go, we need a corporate attorney. I go, that sounds horrible. We need an HR department. That sounds even worse. So we grew this huge growth, number one infomercial in the world by the end of December. And I tell this story when I do rallies and stuff. And over the next six months, we took in $100 million. And I remember calling my friend. I go, Tom, do you know the ATMs don't go to the seventh digit? He goes, no, I didn't know that, Mike. I'm going, it was crazy all this money. And he goes, but I woke up in May that year,

and we were $6 million in debt. And I was in tears going, God, what did I do wrong? And I started digging in over the next two years to dig out of that with no bank or anything. I built everything with my hands and from the ground up. Everything we owned, we built and just kept making inventory. Well, to dig out, I learned so much from 2012. There was betrayal.

I made handshake deals, contracts. Didn't matter which one I made. People took advantage. And then I brought it on and I wanted to do it my way where everything is tracked. What if I only had to live on that newspaper ad or that one podcast or that one show? I took it in and we did everything ourselves and basically micromanaged everything and macromanaged it.

That's where we got today, 83 million MyPillows later, this big company, thousands of employees. But I always look back and say, if 2012 hadn't happened in My Pillow, I would never be here because I learned so much. And I tell any entrepreneurs out there, business people, learn by that. You learn by that. It was mistaken, but it was so big. It was devastating at the time.

But I look back now, if that didn't happen, I would have just been slowly, you know, I would have never got there. You would have never got it, right? I wouldn't have got it. And I look at the 2020 election like that. If the 2020 election hadn't happened, so much has been revealed now, whether it's bad, we're going to look back. And I always say, you know, this is not God's time. We're going to look back and say everything had to happen, even the bad.

God uses all things for good. And people, like you see, it's opening people's eyes, like we've talked about. From Elon Musk on down, it's at least opened people's eyes to this bucket of common sense. It just comes down to common sense. Let's read some more Super Chats. We got Christian Bond says, Phil, listening to Divine took me back to 06.

Just got my meet and greet passes. See you in Phoenix, brother. Sick. Awesome. Thank you so much. Can't wait. I appreciate it. Phil's going on tour this summer. Yes, we are. See you in Phoenix, brother. Sick. Awesome. Thank you so much. Can't wait. I appreciate it. All right. Phil's going on tour this summer.

Yes, we are. Are you going to attend his shows? What's that? Are you going to attend Phil's shows? Well, yeah. Where's it at? We're going to be all over the U.S. Is that right?

We'll come? I'll be up. Absolutely. We'll be up in the Minneapolis, St. Paul area, I think. Yeah. You let me know. I'll be there. Awesome.

All right. TRD says, Mike's pillows are definitely not lumpy. Anyone who says otherwise is an ambulance chaser and an a-hole. Specifically an ambulance chaser. I got so much trouble from my wife for saying that. Specifically an ambulance chaser. I think you should just make

merch out of it. It was so funny. Rudy Cassone says Biden is waiting for a conviction and then use it as an excuse to not debate. That's actually a good point. I wonder. He didn't come out and say, I said, I'm not doing this.

That's a good point. Yeah. No, we're not going to legitimize him. He's a convicted. There's something really strange that he agreed to that. You know, there's something hidden there. We don't know yet. Yeah.

Let's go. Nathan Sherwood says went home to visit over the weekend and saw flyers for the raising of the pride flag at City Hall run by pride of Binghamton, whose logo is a flaming brick with a pride flag painted on it. Wow. That's definitely a reference to Stonewall. Yeah. None for me.

Thanks, though. No, thanks. Jason Hutchinson says, Mike Lindell saw adversity and conquered it with a pillow. I dare anybody to do better. Good job. Amazing. All right. It's funny that you just got fixated on inventing a really good pillow.

Like, were you always inventing stuff in your life, or was the pillow the first and only? Well, I had a couple things. I remember inventing a thing for ice fishing we have in Minnesota. My dad and I spent all my money inventing this. And to make a long story short, we tested it up at Lake Mille Lacs, and it worked. And I remember a week later, I was so excited, but my dad called me. He says, you need to get over here now.

We opened up this magazine, and almost identical, some other inventor two years early had thought about it, and it was already out there publicly. I'm going, no way. Somebody beat you to it. But that's a problem solution. Both things. There was only one. What the problem was, there was only one solution, and we both thought of that solution.

But usually it's been entrepreneur. My sister flooded a third-story building of an apartment complex back in the early 80s. So I became a carpet cleaner. You know, she has water bed whenever I saw problem solution. Laundry room said sleep is the most important thing you can do for yourself. And I just want to stress that when it comes to, you know, health and exercise and all that, sleep. One of the most important things. You need deep sleep. So people will be thinking like, I'm eating healthy,

I'm exercising, but for some reason, are you sleeping? Because a lot of people don't get sleep and then wonder why it is their body's not getting right, even though they're following the diet and exercise properly, but something's still wrong. And it's quality sleep, too. One of the things with that adjustability of my pillow, keeping your cervical nerves straight at night where people if you bend them it's like bending a water hose and you're flip-flopping all night and you're getting you're breaking your

sleep cycles of rem delta sleep yeah so and then it's funny because back when i did my first commercials someone put in their sleep expert so uh and in california you got to go to four years of college to be a sleep expert so i got sued forifornia you got to go to four years of college to be a sleep expert so i got sued for a million dollars wow i mean these are the things they attack you know you know i claims i i don't like memory foam as a solid thing i can't do it beds and pillows they i wake up stiff my muscles don't don't move but uh the my pills are fantastic you need a my pillow mattress topper that fixes that memory foam or any bed i wouldn't go anywhere i'm married from i wait this ain't memory foam right

but oh you like the memory no i'm saying like if i i i wouldn't go on a memory foam mattress no you could it heats up because heat there's two things that can ruin your sleep cycles and that's heat and pressure points most beds that's what they have both of and i tell people all the time they'll buy a brand-new bed and go, oh, I got my side here. I'm going, you need a different input. It's not going to change. But they don't want to return the bed or whatever,

so I took the MyPillowMathShop. I reverse-engineered that. Everything I reverse-engineered, what should go in there to help you? I don't care. One of the things you won't see me selling is all these decorative pillows that you see in hotels where you take your arm and throw them all on the floor.

What's that going to do? I want to, you know, it doesn't help anything. Why do they look cute? All right, Acoustic Theory says, if Hydro PX won't be kicked, this chat is effectively unmoderated. I don't, but Acoustic Theory,

Hydro just complains all day, but he gives us like 100 bucks every night. And it's not like he's like slurring or anything. He's just calling me names. It's a super chatter we have who comes in every night, dumps like a hundred bucks just to insult me. But you're allowed to insult me. Right, right, right. Yeah, you're allowed to.

It's always allowed. I mean, it would be like the worst super chat in the world if I was like, I'm going to just hire someone to delete all of the chats I don't agree with. So it's like, well, you know, thank you, Hydro, for your opinions and your money. Right. It was always allowed. Let's get another one. Let's see. Noor Allah, he says, I believe it was a literal miracle when Frank's speech effectively distributed absolute proof.

Despite the consistent cyber attacks, Mr. Lindell's site withstood. It streamed smooth as silk and no communist was able to stop it. What happened that week was beyond man's power. Wow. True. When we did the cyber symposium, when I did the movie Absolute Proof on February 5th of 2021, it was taken down everywhere. In fact, Alan Duke, the Facebook fact checker, Alan and I have a weird relationship, but Alan put a cover of it that said,

Contains nudity and porn. What? It's supposed to be the Facebook fact checker, right? So they're putting all these things up there. Well, we were canceled everywhere there on February 5th, but close to 300 million people worldwide seen that in four days because the public was longing to see,

to hear some positive things and and then the cyber symposium he might be talking about that the event i had in south dakota in the summer of 21 that was too it was such an attack uh attacks and to get through that but but it planted seeds where i think everybody went back out and said hey there's problems and maybe in our state maybe we're in our county and and um whatever it was back then at least you know because i thought well it failed what did it do but it didn't now i talk to people you know two years later they go you know i was at that or i watched that and that gave me go and see if i had problems in my own county and so you know the seeds were planted it worked obama phone pro max 5G says, Tim, how do you think that Trump will save the economy?

Inflation is completely out of control. And many economists I've been following on YouTube are predicting something on the level of the Great Depression is coming. I'll just put it this way. Maybe he won't. But when the Great Depression comes, who do you want in charge of the economy? Joe Biden or Donald Trump? Your choice.

Pick what you want. Do you want the real estate celebrity billionaire or do you want the crooked backroom deals guy? I mean, I'll take the guy who's run a bunch of companies and has got tens of thousands of employees. It doesn't mean you're guaranteed anything. It just means like, come on, you're not going to hire a janitor to be your accountant you know

what i mean like no offense to janitors i just point to people december of 2019 try and put your mind back there and and where you were at you know um physically uh wherever you started from and where you were i bet you sold a lot of pillows in 2019 oh absolutely it was huge it was massive you know um the um it actually went up when I spoke at the Rose Garden in the spring of 2020 because it got worldwide attention all of a sudden, you know, because everyone was attacking, how dare you talk about reading the Bible from the podium? What a concept. How dare you?

Yeah, yeah. Like, Donald Trump is not going to come in and, like, like save us that like it's just that it's better than Biden. It's Donald Trump is not going to come in and save us. He's just not going to keep setting us on fire like Joe Biden. Yeah, like I would love I hope I mean, that's the reason that I asked Cash about his plan for unfunded liabilities and stuff. Our biggest problem, I say it over and over, our biggest problem facing the country is unfunded liabilities, mandatory spending, the things that the government has to spend,

the discretionary spending, military spending, all the things, even as much as I talk about getting rid of entire bureaucracies and getting rid of cabinet-level bureaucracies and stuff like that, that's nothing when it comes to saving money compared to what is actually needed to happen to stop the massive problem with our unfunded liabilities.

So Donald Trump, if he doesn't have a great plan, at the very least, if you can get a friendly business environment, then you can have your economy start growing again. And at least it can moderate how fast the problem compounds. Because, again, this is our problem, compounding interest. But the more productive your economy is, you can stave it off and possibly could come up with a solution. If not, we're going to be looking at serious austerity in the United States, and America is not ready for that. If you think the problems that we have now with a with the economy the way they are all the other social problems with the economy the way that it is they all get magnified you know

times 10 or 100 or a thousand when you throw on top of an economic crisis all of the problems that like all the stuff you hear about before world war ii in germany there was all these bad things going on including a massive economic problem. Massive economic problems just amplify all of your social problems. So this is a big thing that we have to worry about. This is a good super chat. I like this one. BrownBear992 says, important question for Mike.

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He's going to be so mad. You should bury Posobiec just because he's always throwing shade at his wife. This is the number one promo code out there. I think he does it with his wife. His wife. Yeah, Tanya. Yeah, they argue over whose promo code does better.

Hers does some tweaks. Well, not for long. Look at Tim now. There you go. Promo code Tim. Let's go. What do we have here? Mike 17 Frank 161 says,

Howdy, Tim. I'm a big fan and private member. I'm asking for a donation to the Arkansas Firefighter Museum and Fire Education Center. They're a 501c3. I know times are tough, but every donation helps. Thanks and God bless. That's the Arkansas Firefighter Museum. Let me punch that in.

That's cool. Okay. Just bear with me. Arkansas Firefighter Museum. That's cool. Okay. Just bear with me. Arkansas Firefighter Museum. Let's pull that one up. I love museums. I feel like they don't get enough attention, and they're so easily hijacked by people with really progressive ideologies.

I don't know the website. I got to find the website. We'll find the website. We'll grab a couple more Super Chats while we're here and see what we got. Mr. Shazam says, I'm broke now, but words have value. Thanks. Thanks for the Super Chat. Polly Puree says, Kelsey Grammer's show Frasier was a mockery of the left

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We built our company on that. So just like that, I tell people, hey, if it's our mistake, tell them to keep it. But it's great that they call. They have that. I just go, you've been so honest. Keep it. They're going, oh, no, to keep it, you know, it's a, but it's great that they call, they have that, you know, I just go, you know, you've been so honest, you don't keep it. They're going, Oh no, no. And I'm going, no, really. Yeah. All right, everybody, we're going to go to that call-in show. So if you haven't already smashed the like button, one like equals one FJB head over to timcast.com, click the join us button and become a member, join the discord server. The members only call-in show will be starting in a couple of minutes where we will talk to you.

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