Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1041 US Rockets Strike Russia, Russia Threatens WAR, Says THIS IS WORLD WAR 3 w/Bill Ottman

Episode Date: June 6, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil, & Serge are joined by Bill Ottman to discuss Ukraine striking Russia with American weapons, a new bill that aims to automatically register men in the Selective Service, H5N2 ...Bird Flu killing the first human ever in Mexico, and Biden's broken brain becoming the number one issue for Americans. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Serge @sergedotcom (everywhere) Guest: Bill Ottman | Minds.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:13 military officer of Ukraine. I call this Western forces attacking Russian territory. Well, that's where we currently are. The Kremlin has stated that if the if Ukrainians fire U.S. weapons into Russia, it very well may be a casus belli for war. They are threatening to declare war on NATO directly. Dmitry Medvedev says this is not this is not Ukraine doing anything. They view this as NATO supplied and supported weapons firing into their territory. And it's happened. There's videos. The New York Times is reporting this is my favorite part. When I tweeted out that Western forces have begun firing weapons into Russia, I get a community note saying it's not accurate to
Starting point is 00:01:56 call them Western forces because Ukraine is a sovereign nation, a sovereign nation that can only take military action if Joe Biden gives them the approval to do so. A sovereign nation that can only take military action if Joe Biden gives them the approval to do so. A sovereign nation that is trained, armed, funded by NATO. A sovereign nation where Blinken in the United States says that Ukraine will be in NATO. Yeah, ain't nobody buying it. We are not stupid. This could very well be the brink of World War III or maybe we're already in it. I don't know. Russian state TV is already brink of World War Three or maybe we're already in it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Russian state TV is already saying this is World War Three. A lot of people in Europe have been saying it. My friends, there's not going to be a clear line where we know when it's begun. I don't think there's going to be a very easy shot heard around the world. Maybe this is it. Maybe not. There were drone terror strikes in Russia already. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:02:46 This could escalate as we've already gotten reports that Russia has removed a line of demarcation from a lake that separates Russia from Estonia. Moves may already be in place for this war to expand. And what are we supposed to say? It is Western forces that have opened fire on Russian territory. Now, sure, Russia invaded Ukraine, but it is now NATO-supplied forces and Western powers attacking Russian territory directly. Call it whatever you want. We're going to talk about that. We got a bunch of news pertaining to Hunter Biden's trial. Donald Trump is going to get his concealed carry revoked. Now, that's just terrible.
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Starting point is 00:04:11 You can follow me. I never introduce myself on the show. I'm the only one who never does. You can follow me at TimCast on X and Instagram. Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Bill Ottman. Hey, thanks for having me. Who are you? My name is Bill Ottman.
Starting point is 00:04:23 I'm founder, CEO of Minds. We're an open source, decentralized social network. If you want to take control of your social media, launch your own app, hit up Minds.com, M-I-N-D-S.com. You find us at Minds on X. I am Phil that remains... Oh, no, wait a minute. I totally botched my intro.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains I was ready to go out Because Tim was talking about his address I was ready to go into my exit Anyways, how you doing Hannah Clare? Thank you Phil Labonte Of All That Remains, the heavy metal band I'm Hannah Clare Brimel
Starting point is 00:04:54 I'm a writer for SCNR.com, Scanner News Follow all of their work at TimCastNews On Twitter and Instagram Hi Serge Hey Hannah Clare, I'm Serge Let's get it guys I just want to shout out the people There's a really great comment.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Someone said, Tim is like, it's all going pot. Buy my coffee. Yeah. Yeah. When wars start, life doesn't stop. Watch the videos out of Syria during the Civil War of people walking through rubble and active gunfire with grocery bags from a supermarket. Let's jump into this first story from the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Ukraine strikes into Russia with Western weapons, official says. The official said Ukraine had destroyed missile launchers in the Russian region of Belgrade using an American made rocket system. So we've got these videos that have been coming out of Russia just days after the Biden administration granted permission for Ukraine to fire American weapons into Russia, Kiev took advantage of its new latitude, striking a military facility over the border using U.S. made artillery, a U.S. made artillery system, according to members of Ukraine's parliament. This has already been reported on in Russia as well, confirmed by both sides. Chernev, the deputy chairman of the Ukrainian Parliament's Committee on National Security, Defense and Intelligence, said on Tuesday that Ukrainian forces had destroyed Russian missile launchers with a strike in the Belgorod region about 20 miles into Russia. Ukraine's forces used a high mobility artillery rocket system or HIMARS, he said. Confirmation coming from ABC News as well. And then let's see, we have this.
Starting point is 00:06:21 This is an important context from Politico. Biden secretly gave Ukraine permission to strike inside Russia with U.S. weapons. Here's my favorite part. Here's my tweet. Western forces have begun direct strikes on Russian territory. Russia already warned this would be a declaration of war and they would retaliate. We ended up getting this beautiful community note which read, this is misleading. Western forces have not begun strikes inside Russia. Ukraine is conducting strikes inside Russia using Western American supplied weapons. Referring to Ukraine as Western forces would not be accurate. Ukraine is an independent sovereign country that can only take action if Joe Biden tells them they can. Yeah, nice try, deep state. No one's fallen for it. This is a new era where we
Starting point is 00:07:07 are wise to your your your your crackpot games and we ain't playing around. Look, they're going in the media and they're saying this is not war. This is Ukraine's doing it. You have to be a special kind of stupid to believe that's the case. So when I look at these liberal pundits and they're just like, wow, look what Ukraine did after Biden gave them the weapons and the permission. Yeah, that means they're taking orders from Joe Biden. That's it. This could very well be the doorstep of World War III or at the very least war, a direct confrontation with Russia. Now, to be fair, we're already at war with Russia. So the question is, does this escalate beyond and become something more akin to World War Three? You can guarantee that Russia is going to consider this an escalation, right? Like what they do. I don't know. I'm not making any
Starting point is 00:07:53 predictions about what they do. But inside Russia, you can absolutely guarantee that they're going to consider just the acknowledgement, right? Because there's all kinds of things that they probably know and they're like, well, we're pretty sure they're doing this, but we can't prove it or whatever. Like all kinds of stuff happens like that when it comes to international politics and stuff like that happens all the time.
Starting point is 00:08:14 But when you have something that is either uncovered and the administration or whatever country in question has to admit it, that makes a whole different ball of wax as to how the country that was targeted is going to respond and how the international community will accept their response. Because like no matter what, the U.S. is going to be like, no, you shouldn't do anything at all, blah, blah, blah, no matter what. But what the rest of the international community is going to say is going to be different because of that. Yeah. Well, we initially saw reports about this authorization from Biden last week, but it was when the Trump conviction came out. So it sort of was like some media reporting on it. But for the most part, it was news that was reported
Starting point is 00:08:56 without really being, I think, taken in by the American public. I don't really understand how the White House can defend being like, well, we're not making any we're not being aggressive against Russia. It's not we're just helping Ukraine out by telling them to use our our supplied weapons and force against Russia inside Russia. And then within days, they actually do it. Yeah. Well, it's we have this from Sky News. Kremlin official threatens war against NATO if Ukraine uses U.S. weapons against Russia. A senior Russian official says the country could go to war with NATO after Biden allowed some U.S. weapons to be used by Ukraine in Russia. So we have rescue workers at a site of a residence hit by a Russian missile in Kharkiv. That was Friday also. It's not like this is something that they said last year.
Starting point is 00:09:41 This is Friday. They said that just this past Friday. Quote, Russia regards all long range weapons used by Ukraine as already being directly controlled by servicemen from NATO countries. This is no military assistance. This is participation in a war against us. And such actions could well
Starting point is 00:09:56 become a Cassus Belli. For those that don't know what that means, it means cause for war. I find this very difficult to argue with, right? Russia has been clear the whole time.
Starting point is 00:10:05 They don't want to see an expansion of NATO. They don't want the U.S. to help Ukraine fight against its forces like they have been consistent in what they've said this whole time. Now, I don't agree with everything that Russia is doing. On the other hand, like what did the Biden administration think was going to happen when they were like, no, it's fine. Go ahead and use these weapons. Russia will be cool about it. Like, I just don't understand the logic. And again, there's a certain level of of arrogance, I think, coming from the Biden-Harris administration saying like, oh, well, we can keep telling the American people we're not involved. We're just we're doing the right thing. We're helping Ukraine when actually we have every signal that they are doing everything they can to escalate this war. He went on to say it would
Starting point is 00:10:40 be a fatal mistake on the part of the West to think that Russia was not ready to use tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine and spoke of the West to think that Russia was not ready to use tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine and spoke of the potential to strike unnamed hostile countries with strategic nuclear weapons. How are you guys doing? Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience
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Starting point is 00:12:22 pushed back, the other side will escalate. Russia gets pushed back in the Donbass. Then they escalate with artillery strikes and they start expanding. So then the U.S., NATO and Ukraine, seeing them being the Ukrainian forces losing a CIA official already predicting that Ukraine will lose the war by the end of the year. What does the U.S. do? They say, turn it up a notch, deploy long range rockets into Ukraine and tell them to strike in Russia to push them back. Russia is now likely going to respond with an escalation of their own. There's not going to be a very simple shot heard around the world. This war will be going on for some time, but maybe maybe we're not quite at the point of a World War Three. Maybe that will be if and when Russia fires a tactical nuclear strike somewhere in Ukraine to advance their position on the battlefield or to maintain their control of the Donbass region.
Starting point is 00:13:15 The administration, they want the best of both worlds. They want to be able to say we're not at war. Meanwhile, being at war. And it's just this language game of you know oh is it western forces or is i mean it's it's it's not that simple you point out the language game and i think that's something that the american people are going to have to start uh deciding that they want to see through you're gonna have to go by by actions and not really go by what people are saying it's clear that these are legal definitions around what constitutes
Starting point is 00:13:45 Western forces. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's my point. They'll say that they'll use the proper terminology to say that they're doing things legally and they'll articulate it in a way that should it be brought
Starting point is 00:13:57 into a court, it would be tied as a drum and whatever, and then they're just going to do whatever they want. That is pretty purely obvious. So the American people, the only, the only option we have is the, is the American people have to decide that they want to vote a different way. They have, they want to decide that they want to vote for people that will not behave this way.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Right. And to not get them further entrenched in foreign conflicts, right? Like, I don't think anything done under the Biden administration internationally has really been to or I should say very few things, but definitely not in Ukraine or Israel. Like, I don't think we are benefiting the American people who we have an obligation to first. I think we're not even helping the Ukraine Ukrainians in this point because we're just looking to escalate war, which always results in more death. There's no honor in war anymore. It's just it's just never a relation. I mean, yeah, not that there was. Fair enough. Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 00:14:46 But I mean, you know, you can't just declare it. No one declares war anymore. Europeans have some weird kind of sense of honor in war, you know, during perhaps like the colonial era in the United States. If someone waves the white flag, respect them and let them come in. Well, you kind of had to because if you don't communicate, you can't end the war. How do you accept a surrender? So if someone waves the flag, you don't fire on them. And we try. We try. But real war, when we're talking about people actually fighting for existential threats, existential threats, no such thing as honor or integrity, No such thing as a war crime.
Starting point is 00:15:25 They say, oh, Russia's guilty of war crimes. That means nothing unless you win. Russia's going to do whatever they have to do. And if they win, then it's the U.S. that committed the war crime. And then they'll say the U.S. to pay reparations or something like this. But the U.S., of course, being very far away from this conflict and it being on Russia's doorstep, of course, Russia's never going to stop. NATO and the United States are not going to stop either. And so I don't I don't know where this ends up, but perhaps this flies over the head of the average American. The reason why I get that community note on my tweet is because deep state shills are like, we can't let people know what
Starting point is 00:16:01 we're doing. So we need to know this, but no one's falling for it. But the average person's on an X anyway. If Russia fires a nuclear weapon into Ukraine, there is no hiding that. That will be a shot heard around the world moment. And the U.S. government, Biden, whoever, will not be able to ignore it. Heck, maybe they're counting on it. I mean, I think the same thing can be said from probably internal Russia perspective, right? They have it's really easy to them for them to point towards NATO's actions and say, look,
Starting point is 00:16:30 they are specifically threatening us. I think of when they admitted admitted Finland to NATO that doubled NATO's border with Russia. And we were just supposed to act like Russia wasn't going to see that as a threat. Like maybe Finland was right to join me. I'm not going to debate whether they should or shouldn't have been admitted. I'm just saying like everything we do to make NATO bigger on Russia's doorstep is perceived by a threat by Russian leadership. We should abolish NATO because there's no, without NATO, there is nothing that will prevent
Starting point is 00:16:58 us from behaving like we have NATO, right? If you, if you say, hey, we're going to dissolve NATO, all of the countries that were in NATO can still have friendly relations, can still support each other with military action if they want to. You can still do all that stuff, but you don't have to have the organization
Starting point is 00:17:17 that will inherently draw the United States into war if a member nation is attacked. And it is no longer the situation where the United States absolutely prevents aggression. Right. It is no longer the case that the United States being an ally to a country will guarantee that there will be no aggression. There's there's asymmetric warfare. There's all kinds of ways to go after nation states nowadays that are not actually big military.
Starting point is 00:17:52 So the United States does not offer the same kind of protection that it used to be, or that are allying with the United States. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you this story from MilitaryTimes.com. Lawmakers move to automate selective service registration for all men. I hope Gen Z is listening to this one and Gen Alpha. And I hope people who have kids who are Gen Alpha are listening to this one. Now, to be fair, if you're a dude, you got to sign up for the draft either way. There hasn't been one in 50 years, so most people aren't worried about it. But I'm pretty sure if there's a World War III coming and the U.S. thinks it may
Starting point is 00:18:25 be the case, yeah, they're going to draft all of you. Now, I'm fortunate enough that I'm old. I am 38. And so I don't got to worry about it. You know, when you're between like 18 and 26, you're just like, oh, I hope a war doesn't break out where they're going to make me fight it. And I don't got to go fight for these crackpots. But Gen Alpha and Gen Z will have to. What is the cutoff for? Well, they. And how are we defining men in the modern vernacular?
Starting point is 00:18:53 So it'll go forever. Right. If it's needed. It's just. Right. Like Ukraine's drafting women now and the elderly. That's what Ukraine is pulling women and the elderly to the front lines. And they don't give them,
Starting point is 00:19:08 there's no training. They grab a guy off the street. There's videos of them grabbing, they'll grab a guy off the street and be like, you're going to war. And then people freak out, like what's happening? They put them in a uniform, hand them a gun and say, go. And then they just, they're just cannon fodder. But they're just, they don't care. The U.S. certainly doesn't care. NATO doesn't care. So here's the story. A new plan from House lawmakers would automatically register men for a potential military draft when they hit 18, avoiding potential legal consequences connected to failing to file the paperwork at a proper time. Language included in the House Armed Service Committee's draft of the annual defense authorization bill would mandate the automatic registration of all males between 18 and 26
Starting point is 00:19:40 living in America in the Selective Service System, the federal database used for a military draft in the case of a national emergency. It hasn't been used for that purpose in 52 years, but men who fail to register can face a host of legal consequences. Now, I wonder what would be happening right now where you have a Democrat, Chrissy Houlihan, sponsoring the automatic registration language, calling it both a money saving and common sense reform. Why? I tell you this. I can assure you right now. The majority of young men will never agree to fight in a nation where women do not have to, but are granted equal say in government politics and favored in courts. There is a huge issue right now with the rise of
Starting point is 00:20:25 the likes of Andrew Tate and Pearl Davis. And now you've got HomeAth. And these channels exist for a reason. Young men are not happy with the disproportionate, the second class citizen system that as related to things like selective service. You go to an 18 year old guy and say you will be forced to fight and die for a country because a female politician who does not have to do it mandated you do so. Now you go back in time and a guy says, I am going to go fight and die. And you are expected to do the same. And a lot of guys were like, it's our duty. We all do it. Now you have a system where you have a bunch of elite multimillionaire women like Nancy
Starting point is 00:21:06 Pelosi and other Democrats who would vote in favor of this, not to mention older guys who don't have to fight, telling young men they have to go fight and die. One of the big reasons why the draft is not popular in the first place is because you have elite older men forcing young people to go fight and die for them and their wars, and they don't have to. I say we take it all the way back to 1900s when they tried passing this bill. I think it was an amendment that said, if you vote in favor of war, you have to go fight for it. They said, we'll put an amendment saying we vote on whether to declare war directly. And then if you vote yes, you're conscripted on the spot.
Starting point is 00:21:38 It's going to be interesting to see what happens right now with the current state of, you know, how young men are viewing the world and the rise of these angry young men who are pissed off about this uh this system are politicians exempt from drafts well no it's an age thing there's there's right but if you're younger so you're not going to be you're not going to be in congress if you're 25 so they're drafting only p only young guys and typically people who can't afford to pay someone to go in their stead that's what they used to do back in the day if you you are rich, you could pay someone to go to the draft for you. So if you got called in, they'd be like, okay, here's money. He'll do it. Yep. But I don't know if it's actually going to take off or if it's going to happen, but I do think it's interesting
Starting point is 00:22:16 that they're actively trying to do it right now of all times. Yeah. I do think it's fair for men to question why the standard you know if feminism's so great we all want equality why are they are still expected to be in uh the selective service i wouldn't want women to be drafted i also think men and women are not the same when in combat uh but i think it's you can't have culture saying one thing and then be like but actually in this case you guys have to do this this impulse that that to basically get rid of men and women it has a name so people and there's a lot of people that aren't familiar with it there but it has a name it's called gender abolitionism right they want to abolish the concept of gender we laugh about
Starting point is 00:23:01 we we sometimes we we chuckle about it and stuff. But I tell you what I told, I told, I was telling the guys in the band that in 2015, I was like, trans people are going to be a big deal. Like it's going to be a national conversation and, and watch you see.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And they're going to be there. Like you're crazy, Phil. So I'm telling you right now, if you don't believe me, Google it, gender abolitionism. They want to get rid of the concept of gender between men and women.
Starting point is 00:23:26 That is impossible. It is impossible. And it will absolutely wreak havoc in our society if we try it. We can say to trans women and trans men, we will call you she and we will be polite. But there are going to be places where you are not going to be allowed to be if you're a trans man. And there are going to be places where you are not going to be allowed to be if you're a trans man. And there are going to be places where you're not going to be allowed to be a trans man. The military doesn't allow that already. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Absolutely. In the military, it specifically says for the draft, your identity is meaningless and void. Yeah, serious. But that shouldn't be. I think the point of me saying that there are people that are gender abolitionists is we should have people that change we should have people that change that policy in the military my point is the military is saying if you're a trans woman you're a guy well if you're a trans man you're a woman you can't be in the military they don't care if there were trans people in the military now if you are you can't be drafted okay if you are a female identify as a man you cannot be drafted if you are a man who identifies as a woman you will be
Starting point is 00:24:25 drafted they have clarified this specifically yeah males who identify as female are males as far as the draft is concerned they don't care when it comes to social life inside the united states they literally don't care about this military has no reason to care but if you're male they don't you're going to war And they're going to hand you the weapon and they're going to send you out there. So here's a story. BBC. Russia's removal of border markers,
Starting point is 00:24:51 unacceptable, says the EU. So the escalation's happening. There's a lake and half the lake's controlled by Russia, the other half's controlled by Estonia. And Russia went out and removed the international border barriers, or the border markers.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Certainly seems like there's an escalation for conflict happening so um i hope gen z is listening you know it's going to be they should be excited to hear that they're first in line and for everybody that says that we're doomers here like just tell me where the off-ramp is been saying it for a year you know that you know i'm really excited for i'm excited for you... Have you guys seen Edge of Tomorrow? Yes. With Tom Cruise? It's basically action movie Groundhog Day.
Starting point is 00:25:31 It is. It is, yeah. That's the one with the crazy plane stunt. No, no. That's all Tom Cruise movies. Edge of Tomorrow is there's an alien invasion. The humans all unite together to fight against the aliens, but they're losing everywhere. And so Tom Cruise plays a propagandist PR guy who works for the who was in the in the
Starting point is 00:25:52 military. And he's like his stories that he did ROTC and then, you know, went and ran a marketing firm. So when it when it came time, he said, I'll do marketing for the military. And then the one of the generals of the Allied Forces wants to send him to the front lines with a camera to film their new exosuits that they can fight with to push back on the aliens. Oh, yeah, I have seen it. It's great. And then he gets covered in alien blood, which sends him in a time loop. So every day he wakes up at the same time and then ends up destroying the aliens. I'm excited for Harry Sisson, you know, because he's like sitting there smiling, shaking hands with Biden. And then, you know, it's going to happen. I mean,
Starting point is 00:26:29 it won't be literally like that, but they're like, hey, look, when the war comes, you're going to have to convince everybody to go fight and die. If it comes down to it, he's going to be the kid that they're going to hand the camera to and they're going to say, have fun in Europe. Well, and if you think lines are calling, buddy, if you think Biden's such a good president, I mean, hopefully you'll be like, yes, of course, President Biden, I will go into this war. That sounds great. I mean, that's he'll be crying. No, I doubt they would want to go. The thing is, like, I think the anti-war sentiment in America is really strong. So I think there are all kinds of generations that are would normally be anti-war that are suddenly having to face the reality that
Starting point is 00:27:03 they are advocating for a president that is pro-war. You really do not see Biden supporters lining up, cheering on, you know, or getting ready. I'm going to go to Ukraine. No, you don't see it. No, they're happy to hang the flags and they're happy to have the flag flown during in our Congress. But they don't actually want to be the people beyond the ground. And I think that's the sort of maybe generational gap between generations that have faced hardship and have been closer to war times versus the younger generations today. Like they don't they don't have a concept of of what it's like. I think Russia removing the barriers is interesting, again, because this is obvious, right? There's
Starting point is 00:27:40 there is clearly no de-escalation plan. And I think the Biden administration is making this worse for everybody. I don't think they're doing anything to, you know, to to stop Russia from seeing NATO as an increasing threat. And so why wouldn't Russia increase what it's doing? Like this is all just more, more, more until I don't know what Ukraine collapses. What is the plan here? And the reality is I don't think there is one. It's just ego versus, you know. This is an interesting story from today, but also the least relevant. World War III has already begun, claims Russian state TV.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Literally don't care. Well, when... Because they've said this 80 times already, so it's like, yeah, we get it. When did World War II get classified as World War II? Like, when did people start calling it World War II? I can't speak for World War II get classified as World War II? Like, when did people start calling it World War II? I can't speak for World War II. It was obviously sometime after the war had already started a while, ways into it. But this is actually a question for all wars. When did people begin to refer to the war by name? And when did they realize they were in war? And of course,
Starting point is 00:28:42 the example I know much better is the Civil War. And they had no idea they were in a civil war when the Civil War started. They had no idea that bleeding Kansas was the lead up to the Civil War. When Fort Sumter happened, there was no Civil War. We call that the start of the Civil War. When it happened, they said, no, it's not. Are you crazy? You'd go to somebody and you'd say, do you think we're in a civil war? And they go, what?
Starting point is 00:29:04 No. Then at the first battle of Bull Run in Manassas, they went on the hilltops and they picnicked and they watched as troops lined up and they're like, there's no civil war. And then it was a massacre. And then they're like, oh, wow, maybe we're in a civil war. Maybe this is pretty bad. They probably just called it the war, though. At first it was called rebellion.
Starting point is 00:29:22 It was rebellion in the south, depending on who you talk to. Then it was called the War Between States for a little while. And then about a year or two into it, they started referring to it as the U.S. Civil War. Yeah. Abraham Lincoln was elected during the Civil War. He was reelected during war. They just excluded southern states from the election. So Zelensky, you know, in Ukraine, he canceled elections.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Can't have an election. He said we're at war. Yeah, that's not a real need for him. Interesting. Not a real country. Puppet state controlled by U.S. military powers. So, you know, Russia keeps saying World War Three has already begun. I get it, dude.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I agree. But we're going to need a shot heard around the world moment that the average person wakes up to. I'll put it this way. And it's the same thing for any conflict, U.S. Civil War, maybe. I don't know. If everything right now were to stop, like if Joe Biden came out and said, I'm just too old. Imagine he does press conference. I'm too old for this. You know, I got these guys screaming in my ear from the intelligence agencies about how Trump's got to be stopped. No, I'm done. I'm resigning. Donald Trump should win the presidency. It's enough fighting in this country. We're going to come together. And everyone's like, wow, what's going on? And Trump wins. And Trump says, you know, we're going to we're going to mend this nation. We're
Starting point is 00:30:33 going to bring everyone together. And I bet, wow, we're watching de-escalation. That's never going to happen. That's an absurdity. Same thing is true for what's going on in Europe right now. There's no point in which Russia comes out and says, guys, we're sorry. Our border nations will be controlled by NATO. We're totally cool with it. We will surrender Crimea and our access to the Black Sea. We will surrender our access to the Mediterranean and we will no longer sell energy to European nations.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Never going to happen. I also don't think Zelensky would ever want America to withdraw the monetary and military influence that they have there. Right. But he's giving Biden a hard time for not coming to this peace summit a couple of weeks. Like there is a level of like it has done his presidency wonders to have this conflict, to be a wartime president, literally allowed Zelensky. Yeah. Well, that's like saying the janitor of a company doesn't want his employer to remove the trash cans. Maybe. But I think it means like I think the other thing is that he is not really incentivized to deescalate this war, right? If you know the U.S. is going to write a blank check.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Right, but also if you know the U.S. is going to write a blank check and you get to stay president, because isn't he term limited? He's supposed to be out, but he said, oh, we're- But I'm confused because he's not a president of a country. He's a janitor. I know, but hypothetically. His wants and needs are completely immaterial to what the U.S. is doing in Ukraine. The idea that Zelensky is like, I'm president and I hope I win again is like just, you know, come on.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Well, he doesn't need to win again because he can just be the president until he decides elections come back. Well, no, it's whatever Biden says. It's not whatever it's what Biden says. I get that. But I'm also making the point that Zelensky is benefiting from this.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Like, he can comply with whatever Biden's doing. There's no benefit for him for resisting Biden. Like the way a janitor benefits by getting a paycheck for being paid to clean up the floors. Sure. I mean, any kind of henchman in a corrupt company would benefit from it. Zelensky is the employee of the West. He is there to do the job he's instructed to do. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:32:25 His elections don't matter. There's already no elections. He's just an employee as far as anyone would be concerned as to what's actually happening in that country. He has to get permission from Joe Biden to use weapons against Russia. Yeah, because he's an employee. That's it. Maybe an employment, a servant is a better word, under under the command of there's no elections because Biden and military intelligence, as the CIA said, there's not going to be elections. We don't we're not going to change out who which puppet we're using for control of Ukraine. So just don't do it. And there's no one in Ukraine who can resist. And no country is going to intervene on behalf of Ukrainians. They fled. The people that I knew from Ukraine have fled a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:33:06 They don't live there anymore. I mean, and if Ukraine falls, then 20 years from now, they'll be like, oh, so you're Ukrainian? Wow. So what is it like now that there's no Ukraine anymore? There's no country called Ukraine. Remember Bohemia? I knew a guy who was Bohemian. Ain't no Bohemia anymore.
Starting point is 00:33:25 All right. Well, let's bring it back home for all you guys, because we're here to just ruin your day. This is from NBC News. World Health Organization confirms first death in Mexico from bird flu never seen in humans. The 59-year-old was the first lab-confirmed human case of the infection with an H5N2 subtype of the virus, which has been reported in poultry in the country. How dare you blame chickens? Look at them. They ain't doing nothing wrong. You put them there. Now look at this flock of white broiler chickens. Indeed it is.
Starting point is 00:33:57 The World Health Organization said on Wednesday a death was caused by the first laboratory confirmed case of infection with a subtype of avian influenza. This is the first laboratory confirmed human case of the infection with H5N2. We read that already. The victim had no history of exposure to poultry or other animals. The person had multiple underlying medical conditions and had been bedridden for three weeks for other reasons prior to the onset of acute symptoms. This story is going massively viral because people think we are going to get another lockdown. It doesn't seem like it's actually dangerous enough.
Starting point is 00:34:30 They said that he had underlying conditions, etc. So it's likely that they're reporting this because they're looking for clicks. But at the same time, I don't think that it's out of the question that something like that could happen. They've been warning about bird flu for like six months. Yeah. And they were saying that it's got respiratory symptoms a couple of weeks ago. I mean, they've been warning about this for a while. I don't know if you could. There are parts of the population that would probably agree to lock down. What I find interesting about the bird flu case is that they're kind of attaching to everything.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Like for a while, the U.S. health authorities were saying, don't drink raw milk because bird flu. And it just seems like it will become the boogeyman, maybe for lockdowns, but also maybe to give up alternative lifestyles that the government doesn't want you to have. And it's not just in Mexico, because we've had these stories popping up quite a bit. Reuters says bird flu reported an Iowa dairy herd expanding U.S. outbreak in cows. Come on. They're saying they're culling millions of chickens. They're saying it's in cows now. It's spread to mammals. Now they're saying someone died from it. It certainly looks like they are planting the seeds to get to the point where in a couple months they're going to be like the threat of bird flu is too great. It's got a 60 percent
Starting point is 00:35:39 mortality rate. We're locking everything down. I mean mean it's definitely not out of the question because they've done it you know whether or not this is how flu whether this is the actual thing that that that they pull the trigger on or or that would make the the people in in positions of power decide okay we need to go ahead and do this because they know that it wouldn't be easy the second time. They don't much more resistance. They don't need a lockdown. They need only a guideline, because as we saw in 2020, the lockdowns were mostly private. Guidelines were issued and private businesses decided to require mandates.
Starting point is 00:36:20 So what happens then is insurance companies require mandates, but not even that. This is what we predicted a couple of years ago. First, we thought it was going to be COVID again, but now it's looking like maybe it'll be bird flu. They're going to come out and say, we are not locking down. The economy can't handle it. We wouldn't do that to you guys. We all agree.
Starting point is 00:36:39 But we think you guys should be aware of the risks. Now, because of the risks and no lockdowns. But because of the risks, we're going to have universal mail in voting as an option for all of you who are concerned and don't want to congregate at polling stations. So we'll be sending out your universal mail in ballot. Every single person and, you know, we're good. And if you want to protect yourself, maybe take this shot. I don't know about bird flu for that. I mean, they already do the flu vaccines and stuff. But I think the bigger issue is how can they get universal mail-in voting
Starting point is 00:37:16 pushed harder and further? So we just we got data out of Iowa for their for their elections. We got data out of Texas's, I think, what is it, 23rd district with Brandon Herrera. Voter turnout's apocalyptically low. 30, 20, 29,600, I think, was it 29,600 people voted in a district of 778,000. Now, how many of them are actual Republicans? The mostly Republican states, let's say half a million and only 30,000 actually voted in the primary. And Brandon Herrera lost by 407 votes.
Starting point is 00:37:46 That's that's if Trump supporters and the right do not turn out in November, Joe Biden wins. Yep. The polling shows that among voters who voted every election, 18, 20, 22, they have Biden has a 12 point advantage among voters who only voted one time in the past three elections. Trump has a 12 point advantage. If Trump supporters don't show up, Biden wins. And maybe that's what they're counting on. I mean, that that is like it's true, but that's also true every election. It's super important for people to get out. And it's hard to get conservatives out if they're not excited. I do believe that generally conservatives are going to be excited, but it's really going to boil down to everyone knows it's going to boil
Starting point is 00:38:29 down to the independents. So how do you get out to make sure that you get every single vote? If there's not a ground game for the GOP, they are going to lose. There is no ground game. There's one guy, Scott Pressler. I think that this weird ground game of Trump being in the media and more and more people being upset about the conviction or different things like that. Although we did see polls that said, for the most part, independents, you know, the conviction in New York made them support Trump. On the other hand, for the most part, people have already kind of decided who they're voting for. I think the biggest obstacle for voter turnout is always going to be basically what happens in the last eight weeks before the election. Like stuff that happens right now helps build tension.
Starting point is 00:39:12 But I think people who are on the fence about going to the polls make their decision in September and October. And that's that's really when we're going to know what voter turnout is going to be like. I know. I mean, obviously, Scott Pressler, there are a lot of people trying to get people registered. There's there's good effort. It's not that people should be complacent now. But I think when it comes down to those really hard to get voters, it's it's the final days that make a decision. I don't know if you feel how you feel about this, Bill. Yeah, I mean, I'm curious to hear a little bit more about what your guys experienced at the libertarian convention and it just seemed like search has meh well i mean i i don't think i think we're dried up on that one okay everyone's kind of just like we we the the we're gonna do a post-mortem with uh dave smith
Starting point is 00:40:01 clinton angela but the libertarian Party has basically just nuked themselves. And now they're all basically, they're basically Trump supporters. Yeah, exactly. It seems like the point that I think, you know, you got to give credit to Trump for speaking there. Yeah, sure. That, you know, has a significant impact. But yeah, it's just wild that they nominated that guy. And it's just such a mess.
Starting point is 00:40:20 There was a podcast today of, I believe i believe it's the reason podcast i forget what they call it but um they were questioning chase about uh the trans stuff and and he had not he did not have a convincing answer first of all second of all i don't think people are okay with the libertarian idea of it's okay to trans the kids if the government isn't doing it well i think that i think the american people want to stay on point to nominate a guy who's like businesses can mandate medical treatments for people the the this is this is this is the problem with the that's why people call them low libertarians they're they're they're the same they're the other side of the coin of
Starting point is 00:41:02 communists idealistic nonsensical mumbled garbage now you get like you know dave smith you know the ron paul libertarians make a lot of sense we want sound currency we don't want foreign wars we want a country that makes sense with limited government oh i get that then the libertarian party is basically just like the government can't make us do it but but private entities can. And so then you get mandates run by private companies that demand it. Did Dave want to get nominated? No. No.
Starting point is 00:41:31 But he was running at one point. He did not run. No, but didn't he? He was never running. He had a lot of support. People wanted him to run, but I don't think they ever ran. He was never running. But he's just the obvious choice.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Yeah. I mean, he's the only way that they would have any kind of support. Right. Just unbelievable. So I think what we'll likely end up seeing towards the end of the year is not lockdowns, but some kind of justification to be used to to expand universal mail-in voting, which will maximize voter turnout, which guarantees more Biden voters and Trump voters aren't showing up. I don't know. I think it's hard to say at this point. I think. The. I think I would be interested
Starting point is 00:42:21 to see, like, have a campaign staffer for Trump on the show and have them explain what they're doing a little bit more, because we do talk about, again, like Scott Pressler, things like that. Leading into midterms, there's this whole thing about the red wave and this is going to motivate people. Obviously, Virginia was sort of a high point for some conservatives, but it wasn't exactly what had been predicted to be. And I think the variables for this election are so much more complicated. You know, I was listening to an interview from Michael Watley, the chair of the RNC, and they were saying, like, so how are you going to have your convention if Trump's in jail? And he was like, we're thinking about all the contingency plans. We're thinking about it like people don't really know how to navigate the next couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:43:03 It's hard to say what the atmosphere in America will be like in November. Other than to say, I think it will be very tense. I wonder if anyone has any idea what's going on. Like if anyone in the Trump administration or the Biden administration, like if there's any actual plan for what's happening. And, you know, it's like when I sat down with Trump, one of the last things he says, I was like, I hope you win. He's like, well, we better. And I'm like, they don't know. Like they're trying. You know what it's like when I sat down with Trump, one of the last things he says, I was like, I hope you win. He's like, well, we better. And I'm like, they don't know. Like, they're trying.
Starting point is 00:43:29 You know what I mean? But I'm not even convinced the Biden administration and Democrats actually have a plan. I think they're like, let's just try and put Trump in jail. Then what? I don't know. Just do it. And that's where we're at. I feel like he knows so much more than he's saying.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Trump? Yeah. like he knows so much more than he's saying trump yeah just well about things like the declassification of epstein jfk 9-11 like he looked into ufos like he looked into all those things he knows he like he he could be talking about that and i think that's how he wins talk about that stuff talk about what you can i i disagree i disagree i think that i think you because you've got to get the normies and if you to get the normies you have to talk about literally kitchen table issues especially considering you've got we're in a situation but not if you're going after the independence the independence or where you're going to get it you're not going to get
Starting point is 00:44:18 look i love the libertarian party right but they were super pumped about ross albrecht right and i think ross should be freed as well ross albrecht does not move the needle in politics nobody knows who he is exactly no one cares and no one's gonna vote for ross albrecht and the libertarians showed you because the people that would care about ross the most still booed him but it's not just that they're all morons i i hope that they all listen because i know a lot of them do. Your party is a bunch of low IQ morons. Trump comes out and says no war. And they're like, yeah. And pardoned Ross Ulbricht. Yeah. Doesn't mention Julian Assange. And I'm like, you have you know what I'm hearing more and more and more from libertarians like, well, he did say he was going to do you think I'll really pardon Ross Ulbricht? And I'm like, is the most important thing to you that one guy, one guy you've read about is being pardoned? And not literally all of the other international issues, financing. I can mention Julian Assange, but we'll talk about the media industry in general, free press. But the only thing they ever say is Ross Ulbricht.
Starting point is 00:45:21 And I'm like, I got to be honest. I don't care about that guy at all. Sure, pardon him. That's fine. Doesn't move the needle for me. Exactly. Anyone I know, I go to someone and say, what's more important to you, Ross Ulbricht or open borders? They go, who? Yeah, we have open borders. It's a problem. And the libertarian party wants open borders and is screaming and cheering for Ross Ulbricht. I'm like, it is a joke of a political party that only exists to to fill its ranks with people who want to do things that are not allowed to do. That's it. The unifying principle of the Libertarian Party is, I, as an individual, want to do this thing that's illegal, so I'll join the Libertarian Party and then tell them
Starting point is 00:45:58 that we should be allowed to do it. And that's why none of them agree on anything, and that's why they nominated Chase Oliver. Let's jump to this next story from The New York Times. Georgia appeals court stays most proceedings in Trump election case. The order means the prosecution of Donald J. Trump in Georgia is effectively frozen, at least through the presidential election. It's over. Wow. Yeah, seriously.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Wow. I didn't even hear about that today. Because Fannie Willis is facing removal right before seven. Yeah. The Georgia Court of Appeals on Wednesday stayed the criminal election interference hear about that today because fannie willis is facing removal right before seven so yeah the georgia court of appeals on wednesday stayed the criminal election interference case against trump until an appellate panel could resolve the matter of whether the district attorney in fulton county should be disqualified from prosecuting the case based on a conflict of interest in a one-page
Starting point is 00:46:37 order the court stated that any movement at the trial court level pertaining to mr trump and eight other defendants who have appealed a ruling following allowing the prosecutor. Her name is Fannie T. Willis to remain on the case was stayed pending the outcome of the appeals. And then you've got the documents case is basically being jammed up by Judge Cannon. So it's looking like for the most part, Trump is winning all of these except for the local one. And that's funny, too, because that's the one where he can't pardon himself. Now, George, he won't be able to pardon himself either. But it's funny because a lot of people I hear people in what we call the normiverse who do not understand.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And, you know, watching some of these shows on YouTube or like other podcasts. And they're like, well, if Trump just goes to jail, becomes president, just pardon himself. Like, himself like yeah no no you you can't pardon yourself for a state-level crime now what it would honestly what will most likely happen if that were to happen he would have an executive order it would be national security situation he would say i'm i'm taking authority because it's a national security or there'd be some kind of national security director that he had that they would come up with and he would say okay i'm i'm doing this and then and then he would have them if they said if they protested then the secret service would say no the president gave an order because you can't have the president in jail he would he if he was in jail with secret service he would just turn the secret service say open the doors yep 100 and they would
Starting point is 00:48:00 go okay and they would figure out what how they make the executive order happen after the fact there's no local cop or corrections officer who's going to tell the secret service now And they would go, OK. And they would figure out what how they make the executive order happen after the fact. There's no local cop or corrections officer who's going to tell Secret Service now. Not going to happen. But especially if he did win the election, if they know that he did win, they're not going to. I don't even know that it matters at this point. I mean, I suppose winning would have to happen. But we're in uncharted territory right now. I mean, July 11th, something weird is going
Starting point is 00:48:27 to happen because I don't think they're just going to, you know, at first I was saying house arrest makes a lot of sense. And that's what I'm hearing on Fox. And many pundits are saying, yeah, they'll probably put him put him in an ankle bracelet, limit his ability to campaign. I think Brandon Strzok is right when he was like, why would they stop now? They've gone 100 percent every single in every single facet. Why stop now? I'm like, you're right. Why wouldn't he push them and make them put him in jail if every time they come down on
Starting point is 00:48:51 him now they're arguing they want the gag order to remain indefinitely? Well, and especially see that comes down. I didn't see that either. No. Judge Mershon, who already said, you know, has threatened Trump with jail time over the gag order. Like he has already floated the idea that he is willing to put Trump in jail. Why would he not now that there's a conviction?
Starting point is 00:49:08 Like we're saying they, but really right now it comes down to this one guy. I don't really agree that normal people don't care about some of those issues. Maybe fair enough on Ross Ulbrich, that's pretty niche. But like in terms of just basic truth about what is going on in the government the secret
Starting point is 00:49:26 stuff that everybody wants to know nobody cares about i don't i don't agree man it's a fact it's not it it's a literal fact okay all the polling shows that is what like you you you will not be able to walk up to the average person and say do you care about the cia they'll go what do you mean i mean hundreds of millions of people uh have crypto and they're happy that he's pushing for. Not hundreds of millions of Americans. What percentage of a lot? Tens of millions. But you're talking about a financial regulatory issue that comes down to members of Congress.
Starting point is 00:49:58 People don't care. They're going to ask the chief print the single issue right now for everybody's immigration. That's the largest single issue followed by economy in general. Why is it hard for me to buy bread and milk? And if you go, I mean, dude, I'll bet you 100 bucks right now that if we go to a grocery store right now and you walk up some random people and say, what's the most pressing issue for you in this election? They're not going to say the secret workings of the government.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Fair enough. The economy is, you know, immigration, abortion. Israel's going to rank higher than than that. And then you might argue, like, well, isn't it stuff tied to foreign policy? Like, sure, I guess they're going to say, I want to cease fire or they're going to say this is ridiculous. We got to support Israel. And then you're going to be like, what about the CIA and the secret government? I don't care. Don't know. Don't care what that is. Yeah. But I think, I don't know. I don't agree. I think people do want to hear the secret truth of what's going on. And I think that it's just this lingering feeling, this uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:50:59 idea that, you know, there's just kind of the shadow government that is running and they want to know what's really going on. I think it's becoming much more of a mainstream. Bro, if you went to, if you drove your car 10 minutes up the road and walked into like Dairy Queen and said, do you want to know the secrets about the inner workings of the government? They're going to go, the what? I don't agree, man. People have, you know, streaming services. They watch crazy videos.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Everybody's into this stuff. Yeah, but not what you're describing. What you're talking about is this amalgam of chaotic conspiracy ideas that exist in various forms where you say, do you want to know the secrets of the government? And they're thinking aliens in the pyramid and you're thinking the CIA and Julian Assange. Yeah, but- I'm saying if you go to someone and say- No, I'm thinking aliens. I think that that's a totally valid issue that people like- Right, the subject of the story that we're talking about is
Starting point is 00:51:52 election interference criminal cases in Georgia and whether or not Donald Trump's gonna go to jail. I think a lot of, all right, fair enough. But, and that is absolutely a key thing, which is causing mass donations to his campaign and everybody's very excited about it for various reasons on both sides but you know i don't know i just think that the the best candidate for president is the one who speaks the most truth what kind of numbers do you think of like people generally pay attention to politics
Starting point is 00:52:21 on a regular basis like daily consumers right they're going to something every day in america that you know like yeah but that's what i'm saying i feel like a topic like ufos is way more mass appealing than boring politics well the reason i say that is because we're talking about in the context of uh of the election so that's why i was asking about the people who care about ufos aren't voting that's not true. It is. It is generally true. Right. So voter turnout is like 50 some odd percent. OK, right. The majority of people, the average person does not go out and vote. They don't they like the average person might watch a Joe Rogan and want to hear about Bigfoot. They're not going and voting for Bigfoot as an issue. And most of those people aren't voting at all. I mean, if it gets spoken about
Starting point is 00:53:11 on the debate stage or in any major context, then it can become a voting issue. I think the one thing that might is Epstein. But then we're talking about a guy who is actually a criminal, high profile, working with government agencies and died under mysterious circumstances. If we didn't, that permeates the average person. I think if we didn't have the inflation that we had in the past year, two years or so, I think you guys might be onto something,
Starting point is 00:53:37 but I think that right now the major topic in every, but on everybody's mind is the economy. Well, that's the fact, but, but, but again, this,
Starting point is 00:53:44 the largest single issue is immigration followed by the economy. And I'm saying the only so I don't know what you're implying there, Phil, because I'm disagreeing with his idea that people care about those things. People care about immigration, the economy. And then you go down the list and it's like the cost of rent, the price of houses, abortion, Israel, Palestine, foreign policy. Conspiracy stuff doesn't even crack the top 30 probably. But even as you get on that list, like three of the top five are economic. You know, inflation, the cost of gas and stuff. But the point being, yes, I do agree.
Starting point is 00:54:20 I think that the reason that I'm saying this or the reason that I'm trying to make this point is because, honestly, it's super depressing to me when I think about it. I do not have a very like I think there are vanishingly few amount of people that actually care and actually pay attention to regularly. And of even fewer people that know what they're talking about when you actually present them with with like, hey, what do you think of this topic? So it's despairing. If you go to the average person and say, vote for Donald Trump and he's going to tell you about UFOs, they're going to say, shut up. If he started talking about it more seriously, I mean, you have politicians, Matt Gaetz, Representative Luna, Bushett, you've got like UFO caucus now.
Starting point is 00:55:00 They'd get offended. What do you mean they'd get offended? We're not seeing videos on tiktok of dads going walking their kitchen with a bag of groceries saying i just want to know about these ufos understood but that's only if you think about it in the context of it not being related to the economy and not being related to the black budget yes because if you're convincing nobody no that's not true man there's a video of a 19 year old kid screen at the top of his lungs in his car because he can't get a job. He can't pay his bills.
Starting point is 00:55:29 These people don't care about you. But the economy is connected. If there is and I'm not claiming one. I'm not on either side of it. I'm on pro disclosure of the information. But if there is secret technology that exists, that is, you know, some new form of energy, then that has insane economic implications that changes the whole global economy. So you're talking about 0.1% of the population that watches those shows? Okay, fine. But if you can educate people that disclosure of this information is going to have major impact on the economy, their quality of life, then it can change people's perspective on it.
Starting point is 00:56:15 You don't spend as a campaign billions of dollars doing market research to figure out what people respond to only to ignore the secrets that you're describing. The reality is Democrats and Republicans have ideological bases that they target. Democrats, and this is the problem with the Libertarian Party, Democrats say, how do we maximize votes? And right now, Democrats are losing Latino and black voters and they're losing first-time voters.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Trump is winning in these areas. So the Democrat strategy has shifted. And now they're targeting white affluent women predominantly. That's their target market now. The Republicans are like, we want to go for the black community. Donald Trump is doing really he's got endorsed by a Black Panther, the founding member, and register new voters because they lean towards Trump. The policies of the Republicans, the Democrats are what do we have to adopt policy
Starting point is 00:57:06 wise for the party that will maximize our vote potential? The Libertarian Party does the opposite. The Libertarian Party says we don't care what the population thinks. We just want what we want. And they stay. And it's funny because Trump said three percent, which is unfair because I got one point eight last time around. They're that miserably bad at what they do. So you don't spend billions upon billions of dollars in market research to figure out what the average person cares about, only to then go, well, they really do care about UFOs and government conspiracies, but we're going to ignore all of that and all of the money we spent on this research. If that were the case, it's the only thing they'd talk about.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Talk about UFOs. I mean, well, they I think that they should more. And that's why the top podcasts on the planet are talking about those things. And if you're not talking about those things, you're not paying attention. So and that's I think, to Trump's credit, I think that he does engage with those topics on some level. You know, he does not dismiss those things. And I think that that's a that's an important strategy to continue. The issue is the people who care more about UFOs than, say, immigration or the economy are not going to vote on that issue. No one actually thinks that they're going to get any information or that it matters. The things that motivate people are when they wake up and they can't buy milk for their kids. All that I'm saying is that it is smart for a candidate to make like in the same way that he said, OK, I'm going to be pro Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:58:24 And he created that political division between him and Biden. That's a super smart strategic move. He should do the same thing with all of those topics, because why not? It's just extra. It's extra fuel for him. We got big new polling. The May polling from Gallup top issues has been released. And what do you guys think the most important issue is? I'm not showing it right now. What do you think the most important issue is for the American people?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Quick guesses. Quick guesses. Ten seconds. What do you think? Economic factors and it's probably the cost of food. Wrong. I mean, is it an economic thing or is it immigration? Neither.
Starting point is 00:59:00 It's Joe Biden's failing brain. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. The top issue right now with 21 percent is government's poor leadership. I mean, I mean, the people don't feel comfortable with a disabled man. Look at this. Holding on to the nuclear football. Immigration has dropped from 27 percent, the single largest into May at 18 percent. And this has pushed government poor leadership to the forefront as the largest issue in the country. Ladies and gentlemen, listening, I would like to stress the single largest issue right now among voters. The plurality
Starting point is 00:59:37 is Joe Biden's brain don't work. There you go. Followed by immigration, the economy in general and the high cost of living and inflation. And then we have poverty, hunger and homelessness. Then the federal budget deficit. Then we have abortion, elections reform, unifying the country, ethics, more religious family decline, foreign policy, foreign aid focus overseas. And having learned this important fact, from now on, all segments of TimCast IRL will be Biden's brain is broken. Here's why.
Starting point is 01:00:11 And then whatever subject you're talking about matters. Biden's brain is broken. And that's what we got to talk about Bitcoin, because that's what people want to click on. They want to click on
Starting point is 01:00:18 Biden's broken brain. I don't know how much you guys looked at it, but the time interview that came out today that was done at the end of May is fascinating for this reason. They point out the fact that, you know, when asked about what's going on with China, he references Putin.
Starting point is 01:00:31 When he's asked about something that's going on in South America, he starts referencing Africa. Like the state of Biden. And this is a private interview prearranged with Biden's press corps. Right. Like it couldn't have been a safer environment for him to be interviewed. I think the Times is pretty sympathetic to him and it's still not looking good. But I think it's interesting because when American people, when you guys were talking before, I pulled up this poll from Hamilton College that talked about or was measuring the amount of people that say that they're aware of politics, that they're engaged in the news. And it was highest, you know, this poll is from 2022. So it was particularly high during COVID. I think a lot of people can explain why there was a lot of uncertainty. People didn't know what was going
Starting point is 01:01:10 on. They felt like they had to watch the news to get information. And I think with Biden's slipping leadership, both, you know, the cognitive stumbles, the physical stumbles, but also just generally conflicting signaling on the international front, I think people are starting to say things are not going well and their options are either to like close their eyes and try to avoid the media at all and stick their heads in the sand or to become really aware and kind of overthink what's going on in the US in for US and especially in the Biden White House I mean I think that's a great idea to focus on on the brainbroken like constantly because that that's such a natural human instinct to just oh my leader
Starting point is 01:01:51 can't function i that i think it makes total sense that that's the top issue because people don't feel confident at all so it's wild to me that we have become such a gluttonous and successful nation that the issues that affect us now are unrelated to policy the issues that we truly deeply care about are are are turning into cultural issues and not where's the food coming from now don't get me wrong where's the food coming from is a huge issue but i'm saying, we are, we have fat homeless people. You know what I mean? Like we have truly conquered, rather poorly, I might add,
Starting point is 01:02:31 but man, just go back 100, 200 years and tell the people in this country and be like, you know, you know what people are gonna be voting on for president? Cognitive function of the president. That's it.
Starting point is 01:02:42 And they're gonna be like, aren't people gonna be worried? Well, I mean like it's all ancillary. Like if your president's broken, can you really solve the economic problems and all that stuff? But people are going to be complaining about all sorts of weird things in TV shows, movies, the words that are being used. And they're like, how will you have time to do that when you are hungry and starving and winter is coming? I don't know. We got refrigerators. We got preserved foods. We have trucks and planes that can transport food. You go to Barrow, Alaska, and they ship in food by plane.
Starting point is 01:03:12 So there's no trees. They're in the Arctic Circle. No trees. Just frozen mud everywhere. And you can have sushi and cheeseburgers. Didn't they hide Roosevelt's condition for a while? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:25 And couldn't walk. And I think that, you know, in the past there, I'm sure, have been many cases of presidents having, you know, serious health issues. But there was so little media pointed at them and media was so different back then that it was way easier to have it not be a top issue. Right. And I think not being able to walk, wasn't there a story about them like strapping him to a podium so he could stand during a speech, right? Like they would put the, you know, whatever. Not being able to talk is very different than not being able to effectively communicate with the people.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I mean, I don't know how. Not being able to stand is different from. Oh. Oh, he said walk? I think he meant walk. He said talk. He said talk. He said talk. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:06 I think Biden not being able to talk is a worse problem for them to have to deal with than someone not being able to walk or stand, right? Right, right. The physical ailment is serious, but it was more about, like, you expect your leader to be strong and doing all these things and do whatever. Like, Biden falls off the bicycle. That is embarrassing. It is way worse to me that he can't remember which leader he's being asked about in a direct
Starting point is 01:04:30 interview. I think that the cognitive ability is something you can't hide. And remember that he gets a clean bill of health every year from the White House doctor. I love when they put this out. I wait for it. They delay putting it out for as long as possible. And then when it finally comes out, they don't even release it regularly. They won't release a PDF copy. Like you have to like find the link and go for it. And they'll be like, oh, well, you know, he's got some acid reflux. But other than that, he seems OK. Like this is obviously a huge lie to the American people. And I think it is a strange position for the party that's saying like, well, we released the White House visitor logs. We're really transparent. They're the ones that want all
Starting point is 01:05:08 kinds of crazy things to also be the ones that won't confront the reality that something is clearly wrong. Yeah, the issue, though, I mean, so so, Tim, what do you think is the percentage likelihood that it's Biden and not somebody else that... For the nomination? I don't know, man. I think there's a strong possibility it's not going to be Biden, even right now. I thought he was going to be out by March. But I wonder if they have no plan at all.
Starting point is 01:05:39 None. And so they're just like, the ship has crashed. Steal as much silverware as you can before the ship goes down, and then GTFO. Because otherwise, you know, it's such an easy strategy to just hammer on the brain broken. It's so clear. Yeah, people don't feel comfortable. I'm so excited for this debate.
Starting point is 01:05:59 It's going to be wild. We're probably going to be sitting here, and I'm just going to, like, we've got a popcorn machine now. I think we'll just make a bunch of popcorn and we won't we'll just watch and like normally we do the commentary thing but like nah biden's gonna be like what's the date on there 27th of june and then two days later it's the uh the fight conor mcgregor i think yeah i mean so new jersey primary is yesterday and i think it's something like over six% of the write-in vote was not Biden, right? And that's actually not a cognitive commentary. That's, again, a geopolitical that has to do with Hamas, Israel, and Palestine. But people either don't want him for ideological reasons or they don't look at him and say, we're confident you can make it like this is a very strange position for an incumbent president to be in where people are saying, like, you just don't make me feel safe, either because you can't talk or because I think you're going to send us to war.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Well, maybe maybe the point of the criminal trials against Trump is to make sure he doesn't talk about real issues so that he's constantly just going, they're putting me in jail. It's not fair. And then regular Americans are like, I don't care about this. It also means the Biden administration can just be like, look at this guy, the convicted felon. Don't ask us any specific policy questions. If Trump came out and said, here's what I'm going to do to help cover your bills. Here's what I'm going to do to make your gas cheaper. They're trying to lock me up because I have plans and they don't. That would work. But I think, you know, his rallies are funny. But I wonder if not saying Trump's falling for it, but I wonder if their strategy is just make sure he doesn't talk about the issues Americans care about and are actually worried about. Yeah, it's good for him to acknowledge the situation that he's in, but not fall too much into the victim nonstop mindset and just stay focused on actual issues.
Starting point is 01:07:41 And I think you you could I mean, again, I always think Trump should be on the offensive here. Like I'm interested in the debate because not because I think we'll have any, you know, intelligent, nuanced conversation about policy. But I do think it would be interesting to see Trump be on the offensive and say, Biden, you have to explain why why America is in the state that it's in right now. Why are we looking at conflict internationally on so many fronts? Why do people feel like there is no way out? They're sort of in an economic downward spiral because everything is so expensive. What's going on with our border? Why are you not being held accountable? Like Trump has a lot of punches to throw in this respect. And if we if if the moderator and Biden are able to say,
Starting point is 01:08:19 well, you were just convicted in a trial and Trump doesn't just push it aside and keep pushing on Biden's record. You know, it's showing that there's definitely a way to distract him from the advantage that he could lean into. Perhaps I I think that the best strategy that that that Trump has is just to just continue to fight off. What UFC 303 is off. What UFC three Oh three is off. What happened? Oh, what? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Really? Yeah. They removed three Oh three. Why? Con America canceled press conference. Oh, that's not fun. Is the fight really getting canceled?
Starting point is 01:09:03 Oh man. I will plots. Uh, let's send him to jail. He's going to, he's going to, he's going to raise a the fight really getting canceled? Oh, man, I will plot. If they send him to jail, he's going to raise a billion dollars. Of course. Yeah. But it doesn't mean they won't send him to jail. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:14 We got this story for you guys. I'd like to congratulate our good friend. This is, what's his name? Rep Donald Payne Jr. Congratulations, good sir, for winning an election from beyond the grave. Sick. A dead Democrat won his primary. His office, so he had a heart attack and his office initially was like, everything is fine.
Starting point is 01:09:34 No worries. He's going to be back soon. And then it came out that actually he had been on a ventilator for weeks. He was in a coma and his office was like, he's recovering. No. Also, he took the seat that his dad previously his dad died vacated seat he got this what yeah it's a cursed seat and so i mean obviously death is sad this has happened a couple times before like hail boggs went missing in alaska uh and but they had it was so close to his primary like his name was already on it he won anyways uh so it does happen
Starting point is 01:10:01 on occasion but i think democrats in Congress are in a weird position. We know the margin is really tight right now. It's only like four seats difference. The New Jersey's 10th people, New Jersey's 10th district is cursed. And if you are running for Congress, you could fall victim to that curse. Well, what if there's a new election and, you know, Republican wins it or something else happens? And then he has a heart attack. It's just in a ghost. Eventually, they're like, we'll just put a ghost in.
Starting point is 01:10:28 They're in the best shape to hold this. And they say, you know, the real it's not term limited. So the ghost stays in for 100 years. The real story is that people voted for him. Why? Because people don't care about anything. They don't mostly don't pay attention. They don't care.
Starting point is 01:10:44 All they care about is Democrat They don't mostly don't pay attention. They don't care. All they care about is Democrat, Republican. Yeah. And I seriously wonder, did any of them know he had died? Because again, his his office was weird about it. I mean, I remember I remember his passing. It's very sad for his family, you know, his young children. Again, his office had been a little bit sketchy about not being honest about the fact that he wasn't in good conditions, that things were looking pretty serious. And so theoretically that would have been the time when voters were like, oh no, maybe we've got to plan ahead.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Nobody even tried to run against him? It's an uncontested district. That's wild, man. And then people went and voted. They were like, I'll vote for this guy because he has a DNA. I said we abolish ballots. Abolish. Solves all the problems. How do you go in and what's your plan?
Starting point is 01:11:27 You want to vote for someone, you got to write their name down. That's how it used to be. Before the Civil War, you had to write someone's name down. And what would happen is political parties would give people ballots being like, here's a list of the candidates that we like. So what would happen is if we got rid of ballots, Democrats wouldn't give out. There'd be no mail-in ballots anymore. It would literally they'd bring you a flyer being like, when you go to vote, vote for these people. And anything that arrived in the mail for voting would be blank. And so they'd be like, here's a list of names to write in. People wouldn't do it. They'd be like, I'm not writing all that down.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Right now you go check a box and then I can be like, get out of my face. But you get rid of ballots. Dead people aren't going to win elections anymore this it didn't used to be like this abolish ballots i mean maybe yeah honestly but i think this shows people don't have time to research all of the different and they shouldn't vote right yeah rock the vote the whole like rock the vote in the 90s was a terrible idea what was it it was was a campaign on MTV. It was when Bill Clinton went on and played sax and talked to the MTV generation. Relatable. Yeah, he was cool, musician, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:12:34 But the Rock the Vote was just getting people out to vote. And it didn't matter that they were unaware of what the thing was. And the way that rock the vote was, or if I recall correctly, the way that it was, was presented, it wasn't partisan, but you still like, it wasn't partisan,
Starting point is 01:12:55 but you still kind of got the sense that people were probably going to vote for Democrats because the Democrats were the not stuffy ones, you know, Bill Clinton's smoke pot, you know, it was kind of like, that was the vibe. it's like when Facebook, you know, Bill Clinton's smoke pot. You know, it was kind of like that was the vibe. Well, it's like when Facebook, you know, pushes everybody to go vote.
Starting point is 01:13:08 It's like the vibe behind it. You're right, but it's a hundred times less insidious back in the 90s than it was with Facebook. Yeah, Facebook only sends notifications to Democrats. Yeah, it's real bad. And that's data they actually tracked. Democrats will get a notification saying go vote. Republicans won't. Yeah. That's how they actually tracked. Democrats will get a notification saying, go vote. Republicans won't.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Yeah. That's how the game works. It is. There's a lot of underhanded stuff, and it's going to make it more and more likely that people are going to have less and less confidence in. Just raise the voting age to 30. I don't see that happening. I'm now wondering if Payne's wife is going to run in his place because the last two times, like, again, I'm going to reference Hale Boggs and Nick Begich when they went missing in Alaska and they won their elections. It ended up being their wives who ran and Hale Boggs' wife did win. Like, I think it's always weird when this stuff happens. I think if you were to have no name on the ballot, it would have been interesting because
Starting point is 01:14:06 maybe the community would, in this case, have fundamentally been like, oh, well, this person is already someone I know and who's been active in our community and that's who I think should represent us. But ultimately, I think it's just sort of name association. Like the fact that this guy had this seat for so long after his dad held it for a long time, like this community is just sort of like, I don't know, that's the guy who does this job um it would it would take more legwork for people to be aware of what's going on they'd be more plugged into their community if they were trying to have to select someone on the fly after someone only net taxpayers can vote all in favor i don't hate it i i don't like to huh yeah yeah all right the Yay? Yay? Alright, the yays have it. From now
Starting point is 01:14:45 on, the court of Tim Kass has agreed if you're not a net taxpayer, you don't get to vote. Which basically means like only the top 20% of income earners in the country get to vote from now on. So that basically means like everybody watching the show, you can't vote anymore. Net taxpayer is not an easy thing to
Starting point is 01:15:01 accomplish. Because basically the way it works is, if you're spending like, if your tax bill at the end of the year is like $20K, you're not a net taxpayer. I think it's got to be like $60,000 or $70,000 in taxes paid before you become a net taxpayer. So what's the actual definition? It means you are paying more than you are receiving. So the amount of people in this country who pay more than they receive is super small. The overwhelming majority of people in this country, including the working class and middle class, are receiving more from the government than they're paying into it. And it's overwhelmingly the wealthy that are covering the costs.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Technically, it's a modern monetary theory and the government just prints money and deficit spends into oblivion until the system crashes. Do you actually want that? Want what? Net taxpayer voting? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm not saying it's a perfect solution, but the idea that anyone can show up to a polling station, vote for a dead guy,
Starting point is 01:15:57 I think the dead guy should be the one in office and no one can challenge him. He should be the one on the ballot. They should not remove him. That's that people want what they want. If they voted for a dog, the dog is the mayor. I've seen it happen. It's getting done.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Well, you voted for a dead guy, man. It's your own fault. Remember when the Republicans voted for the trans anarchist Satanist in New Hampshire? Yeah, she almost won too. That's right. She just got out of jail too. It was crypto stuff though.
Starting point is 01:16:22 So weird. So a transgender anarchist Satanist ran as the Republican sheriff, I believe, right? She was trying to run for sheriff. And won the primary. Yeah. Yeah. And then Republicans started freaking out like, who did I vote for? And I was laughing.
Starting point is 01:16:36 I was like, you deserve it. I mean, not really. I mean, I guess. But it proves a great point. Yeah, it does. People will vote for anyone as long as the right letter is next to their name. This is not voting. The system doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Right now, we have a contest between two warring oligarch parties about who can get the most pieces of paper with signatures on them. No one's actually voting for anything meaningful. And the problem is Donald Trump beat him at their own game. So they lost their minds. And now their game ain't working no more and they can't stop Trump. So this is what they're resorting to. But elections weren't supposed to be real. There you go. Elections weren't supposed to be real. Right. Well, I've heard that only married men who own property and have children should vote. So I think, you know, there's all kinds of ways we could improve the
Starting point is 01:17:24 voting system. How about only married men who own property and have children and vote. So I think, you know, there's all kinds of ways we could improve the voting system. How about only married men who own property and have children and who served in the armed forces? Get really specific. Interesting. You had to have served this nation, have a real stake in the future of this nation. And that includes land and family. I think the land and family are actually a big part of it.
Starting point is 01:17:44 I mean, I think ultimately we want our voters to be engaged in our civic process. And we want, I mean, Vivek Ramaswamy talked about this, right? Like you want people who feel as though they are actively participating in the society, that they have ties to the culture and especially to their communities to be the people casting votes to decide what happens here? And I think, you know, again, like dead congressmen on ballots are sort of complicated. Did they print it already? Should they have voted for him? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:11 But I think it should be the voters should be people who feel invested in the future of the nation. Is there any precedent of countries having systems like you're describing? The United States? When? When it first started, you had to be a landowner to vote. Yeah. Anyone else?
Starting point is 01:18:28 And a man. I'm not a historian on the voting processes of other countries. I'd imagine all of them. In fact, I'd imagine most of them don't allow you to vote at all. The vote was fairly novel in like 1800. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:47 It's not like it was common for the average man to be able to vote. The average person. You hear a lot of feminists talk about the fact that it took so long for women to get the vote, etc. Which is a blatant lie because if you look at it on a societal time scale, right, how long human beings have been human beings and we've had societies, the men got the right to vote and instantaneously, instantaneously women did. If you look at it as at a full timescale, it was what, 50 years, 100 years, less than 100 years when they got the vote. So in 200,000 years that human beings have been human and 100,000 years that we've had fairly complex societies and they didn't have votes, like, you know, didn't at all. And all men didn't have enfranchisement when the, when the U S was created, it was only, you know, we were talking select few. So then even beyond that, once, once all men got enfranchised, actually all men,
Starting point is 01:19:42 it was almost instantaneously that women did too. It's just that if you say that men oppressed women, then you can go ahead and demand goodies from the government. I want to show you this map. This is really funny. This is a map of countries with women's right to vote, yes and no. And you can see there's only one country listed
Starting point is 01:19:59 where women don't have a right to vote. You know what country that is? It's Eritrea. Do you want to know why that's funny? Because North Korea is listed as yes a right to vote. You know what country that is? It's Eritrea. Do you want to know why that's funny? Because North Korea is listed as, yes, women can vote. That's a good one. I mean, Iran. That's a good one, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Saudi Arabia. Women can run. Does Saudi Arabia have elections? They're a kingdom. So this is actually, yeah, in 2015, women are granted the right to vote and hold office. There are no national elections in Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 01:20:27 It's an absolute monarchy. What is this map? Look, Greenland has no data. If you're a woman in Greenland, you can't vote. What website is this? Worldpopulationreview.com. This is fun.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Saudi Arabia allows women to vote, but it's an absolute monarchy with no elections. Huh? What? I want to fact check because there was all this criticism of Saudi Arabia allows women to vote, but it's an absolute monarchy with no elections. Huh? What? I want to fact check because there was all this criticism of Saudi Arabia. I guess local elections. Yeah. And there was this, they're in charge of, I can't remember, maybe it's the UN's feminism conference this year. And people are like, but it's Saudi Arabia. No, they're historically not super friendly to women. But I guess Saudi Arabia
Starting point is 01:21:05 is really trying to change their image. You know, they let women drive now with a male chaperone. Like, it's very funny, but it's all just to appeal to the West. I do think it's funny, too, that, like, there are countries that are gray. They just don't know. Benin, it's like, they might be able to. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Guinea-Bissau? I don't know. What's this? Is it Timor-Leste? How do you pronounce that? Timor. I'm not sure. Guinea-Bissau? I don't know. What's this? Is that Timor-Leste? How do you pronounce that? Timor. I'm pretty sure you got Timor right. New Caledonia. Not sure.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Maybe they can. Maybe they can't. Maybe there are many more countries where they can't actually vote. Let's jump to this next segment, my friends. Trump floats, putting his opponents and Hillary in jail if he wins in 2024, as MAGA plots retribution for the hush money guilty verdicts. Uh-huh. It's really funny because we've been talking about this, like there should be lists of the Democrats who are going to be criminally prosecuted for the things they did. And like, you know, Hillary Clinton's way up on the list.
Starting point is 01:21:58 She's like the top, like Fauci's way up there. And Hillary Clinton, of course, for the Steele dossier, the financing of that. Then there's the destruction of the public records with Ble bit come on the list is huge and um the funny thing is we mention all this and then what does the media do they report trump supporters want to jail alvin bragg i'm like bragg he's like number 15 on the list maybe even 40 like at the top of the list we got fauci and and hillary clinton just because it's a top of mind it's just the most well it's because bannon was talking about it and i'm like the media is like trump supporters threatened to jail elvin bragg and it's like dude
Starting point is 01:22:35 that is an understatement the people who are going to be criminally charged and arrested and i want to give a shout out to the Biden administration for posting the clip from this show where I said we will have investigations. Donald Trump will be elected. OK, I'll tell you exactly how we'll do it. Trump will be elected and then he will appoint an attorney general that will launch investigations and where there is evidence, warrants will be issued. We will then take the Democrats to a room to be made comfortable. And then the prosecutors and the law enforcement officers will make a decision about what to do next. I think it's funny that there's clearly a group of people in the Biden campaign that are assigned to watch Tim Kass IRL every night. That's awesome. Isn't that funny?
Starting point is 01:23:24 I hope you guys are doing well. No, I think they saw one of the lefty blogs that was writing about it. I bet there's someone who has to watch it. And they were like, hey, let's share this clip. And it's really funny because I'm like, we will criminally charge the people that we know committed crimes. And they're like, they're going to arrest us for the crimes we committed. And it's like, uh-huh. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:42 It's not controversial. Let's speak neutrally. I believe that when Trump is elected. All Democrats and Republicans who have committed crimes should be criminally charged when there's evidence and there are warrants granted by judges or grand juries, indictments returned, and they should go to jail and you should go to jail. Republicans and Democrats combined. There you go, President Biden. Hopefully that was sufficient for you because I can name a handful of Republicans that we that, you know, how about Liz Cheney? There was a Secret Service agent who wanted to testify that Cassidy Hutchinson was lying about Donald Trump attacking the driver of the beast. And Liz Cheney didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Lying under oath. Was she under oath? No, Liz Cheney. Well, Cassidy Hutchinson, I don't know. But Liz Cheney should't want to do it. Lying under oath. Was she under oath? No, Liz Cheney, well, oh, Cassidy Hutchinson, I don't know. But Liz Cheney should be, that's obstruction. Yep. There you go. The Pearl clutching on the, you know, Trump says that maybe Democrats should be jailed
Starting point is 01:24:35 from the left-wing media was really funny today, partially because it was like, he's suggesting he would go after his political enemies. And, you know, rightly so. The right wing is like excuse me do you guys not understand what what just happened what what people don't realize is that every person who went to a gulag got a trial yeah there there's no reality the democrats are like but a jury decided that trump was guilty and it's like uh-. Do you think that when communists and Nazis took over, they didn't have trials?
Starting point is 01:25:07 Of course they did. We call them show trials. And then they send you away. You should get someone from the Biden administration on the show. Oh, yeah, right. Whoever has to watch Tim Kass, please come on the show. What would you ask Biden if you could sit him down? What would be the first question well i think the challenge with asking about in any question is he's not
Starting point is 01:25:32 cognizant of his of his own his own existence so it's like i can ask the ufo the same question and get the same response you know it's gonna's going to be muttered, garbled nonsense. But there's a lot of questions for Biden, but I don't think any of them actually matter all that much. Because most of the, like Biden's life is long over. He is well past, like he's past life expectancy. He is, he is, he lacks lucidity. So you're not going to get an answer out of him for a question that you don't already know the answer to.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Like everything pertaining to Burisma, the shady dealings with his brother, the contracts they got in Iraq, like all of that's out there already. You know, usually you have to wait like you have to wait a couple of decades or it's like when someone's in office, you don't learn the secrets right away. It's only a decade or so later. You have to learn these things. Well, Biden's been in office for so long, we've learned most of the things. And so what is there to really ask the guy? I feel like Jill is way more of a power player than people realize. Imagine all the late night ramblings that she's heard, all the information that she has.
Starting point is 01:26:42 And she's very good at kind of staying behind the scenes and not in the spotlight. But she knows a lot more than... I know what I'd ask Biden. If you didn't eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt? That's what I'd ask him. All right. Please respond, guys. And then when he goes, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:27:04 I had breakfast yesterday I'll be like exactly and that's the only question you need to ask maybe a turning test I'd ask you are walking in the desert and you come across a turtle on its back do you flip it over what was the question
Starting point is 01:27:19 they asked in Blade Runner was something like that oh I don't remember yeah it's like you come across a turtle and it's on its back it is being dehydrated do you flip it over or whatever they were trying to figure out if you were a replicant or something ask him those questions i did not know that the problem is like his brain doesn't work it's like there's no there's no real questions to ask him you can ask him basic stuff like uh well here's the issue right right? With Trump, I asked him questions. How are you going to secure the border?
Starting point is 01:27:47 How are you going to, or I said, how are you going to deport all these people? Something he said he wants to do. Biden just lies about everything. What am I going to ask? Oh, Biden, you want to secure the border. How are you going to do it? But he's like, I'm not. It's like, oh, so what do you want to do?
Starting point is 01:27:59 What do you actually want to do? Lie. Okay. Well, and his, I mean, I've always felt this way because I've always identified as conservative, but like it's harder for me to think about what you would ask Biden because I just know his goals are very different from from mine. Right. Like I could ask him questions about or, you know, Tim could ask him questions about immigrations, but his objectives for immigration in this country are very different than what I would go for. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:22 He he wants to have people enter the country. This is the things that the Democrats have advocated for. They're OK with a certain level of illegal immigration. I am not like it is. It's very different than talking to someone who you believe would potentially carry out policies that you're sympathetic to. I would be interested in asking Biden, you know, about his previous record, right? Like having him answer for his record in the Senate, because it seems like so often Biden doesn't really remember what's going on or seems like, do you remember at one point, there was this whole story about how he would say his first wife, who died, you know, in a car accident, his daughter died, it's very sad. But then he started saying
Starting point is 01:29:05 that the other driver was drunk and it was a DUI situation and that driver's family had to like sue him to get him to stop. Like he'll say stuff that just doesn't really make sense. And I would be interested
Starting point is 01:29:15 in hearing an explanation for his own record to see like if he's like, I never voted for that or, you know, whatever, because like it just doesn't seem like the Biden that was elected to Congress is the same Biden that was in the Obama White House, including and in his current White House. I know what I'd ask him.
Starting point is 01:29:32 When you found out that your uncle was eaten by cannibals, how did that feel? And then he'd be like, oh, man, you know, it was shocking. And that's a yeah. Yeah. Remember when you were on that porch and you got arrested for defending that black family? What was that like? Remember when you marched with the Sel for defending that black family? What was that like? Remember when you marched with the Selma rioters? What was that like?
Starting point is 01:29:49 I got it. Did you poop? That was a pretty viral moment. You need a diapy change? Who pooped? Did you poop? That's what I would ask him. What would you ask Biden?
Starting point is 01:30:02 The smartest thing he could do would be to go on a comedy show or something and actually have someone ask him those questions and have a sense of humor about it. He should get interviewed by Zach Galifianakis and just own it. Own his mental decline and try to show that there's actually someone underneath it's his only chance but he just hides and he won't go on long-form podcasts it's just sad he doesn't possess the capability and i think that's part of the reason why trump has done like podcasts and stuff like that is because he's making it clear that even if you don't like him, he can still have normal conversations
Starting point is 01:30:46 where he is totally cognizant, where he is present, even if you don't like his answers, even if he's going to BS you because he's still going to be Trump. Not saying that he's going to be different. He's still going to be Donald Trump. But at least he's going to understand the questions you're asking and be able to respond with something coherent. His personality can carry through. This is why we need the full hour and a half with Trump.
Starting point is 01:31:08 Because like the super chat portion, if Trump's here, like, yeah, we obviously want people to ask questions. But, you know, I've talked to their team and they said high likelihood that we end up doing like an actual full show with everyone, you know, sitting down talking with them. And the reason for it is because we're going to pull up a story like dead Democrats win like Trump and like and then we'll talk and then Trump will give his thoughts because Trump often talks about big, big issues. But having him sit down with a variety of news stories, like imagine if we were able to pull up Star Wars, right? The acolytes, big news are saying it's getting woke.
Starting point is 01:31:42 It's going broke. Imagine getting to hear Trump talk about in-depth cultural issues, how he feels about movies, TV shows, and what it means for American culture. A lot of people would groan and say, I want to hear about immigration. Great. Go watch ABC. Trump did a million interviews about it. Imagine you have an opportunity to sit down with Trump and hear him just give a stream of consciousness on all of these issues and what he thinks about them in a real conversation. That would be amazing. So we're hoping that happens at some point. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I think it would be cool. I think it's I think this show
Starting point is 01:32:11 is an unusual format. Some people work with it. I think Donald Trump would probably thrive here. I think the thing that Donald Trump has over Biden and has had over a lot of candidates, Republicans, too, is that he has such a strong personality and that he is very comfortable on camera, you know, all the years being on reality TV paying off. I don't think Americans feel like they know Biden better after four years in the White House, right? They don't feel like he is more of a personality. He was sort of an Obama shadow before. I don't think that there's obviously a reason that he is not doing, like you're saying, the long form podcast and whatever else. And maybe it's the mental decline, but maybe there is a certain level of like the politician is of it all.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Like he isn't a developed personality in the way that Trump is. He's sort of looking for the cues and to say the right thing, whereas Trump is just going to say whatever is on his mind. You know, for better or for worse, he's not necessarily going off a script. You can't really bring a teleprompter into a long formform podcast i mean i guess you could but it would be very weird yeah it would just be like do you see what's going on trump with washington post half their staff is apparently where they're laying off like their viewership is cut in half they're firing a bunch of people the the boss comes in and says like nobody wants to read this stuff anymore it's garbage and they're like have you thought about hiring more women of color
Starting point is 01:33:28 i'd love to hear trump just start talking about it he'd just be like oh these people are absolutely crazy you know these companies they used to be great and blah blah and they just have him go off on it and that's a real story by the way the washington post is on the verge of collapse yeah this is actually not and i'll just lightly touch on this because this is a tweet that I wanted to get to. Wesley Yang highlighting the Washington Post. Actually, let's, we'll go over this one. We got to talk about this. So Washington Post is on the verge of collapse.
Starting point is 01:33:57 The boss sounds alarm over dwindling audience and heated staff meeting. People are not reading your stuff. Let's not sugarcoat it. We are losing large amounts of money. Congratulations, Bezos. And so Wesley Yang says it is a major inflection point a decade into the great awokening in media. Vice and BuzzFeed went bankrupt rather than attempt what WAPO's new editor is attempting because the cost of pushing back internally was always perceived as greater to them as individuals than going along until total failure.
Starting point is 01:34:27 We'll see whether all the cowards were right and whether it's even possible to do a turnaround. There was a story recently from Free Press, Barry Weiss's publication. A guy who worked, what was his name, Brian Moynihan maybe? I'm not sure. He worked for Vice. He was, was it, is that who it is? I'm pretty sure, yeah. One of their hosts.
Starting point is 01:34:42 At least I'm familiar with the name, so. And I'm not sure if I was there when he was there i might have been but he was mentioning um basically what happens is as as vice hires more and more of these young woke people they had to take down their own magazine covers off the wall vice had a wall in their office with all of their magazine covers one of them said we heart cops and had a cop on it and it was meant to be tongue in cheek. And the employees complained. And so Vice, because they're cowards, were like, OK, we'll take it all down. We'll take it all down. It is remarkable. I cannot believe Shane Smith was so weak. Like, I've met the guy. I've known the guy. I've known him well or anything. But he always came
Starting point is 01:35:21 off as kind of just like, I'm going to do it. I'm going to get it done. Get out of my way kind of guy. And in the moment, some whiny, whinging, woke millennial showed up. He dropped to his knees and begged them and got ousted from his own company. And I think the issue is Wesleyan nails it. These people were so much more worried about what people would say about them as individuals. They decided the best course of action was strip as much resources out of the out of the company as you can agree with the mob and disappear. That's what I think we're seeing across the board in all institutions, in politics, especially what we see with Vice is a great example of it. Vice was edgygy shocking and offensive and then a couple woke millennials got in and they said sell off the stock and jump ship
Starting point is 01:36:11 because they didn't want to be perceived as bigots or something i guess there's a very simple formula to covering news that people actually click on which is is so it'll be interesting to see what Washington Post does after this statement, because it's not like these people don't know what they could cover, what and what would go viral. It's very clear, like cover, you know, Telegraph covered the COVID cause of excess deaths. That article probably got insane traffic because it was first time, you know, mainstream media coming out and acknowledging that. It's like, there's very obvious topics
Starting point is 01:36:52 that you cover to create traffic. How do these people not understand? But it's obvious the woke stuff doesn't work. Right. The issue is that the CEOs were like, hey, we're losing money and the woke stuff doesn't play, but we're scared of our employees because they're going to call us mean words.
Starting point is 01:37:08 So they burned their own companies to the ground. I mean, look, this is hilarious. The dude comes out of Washington Post says we're losing money. And they actually said, have you tried hiring black women? Not kidding. And then he was like, I'm going to bring in guys I know who can make this work. And then they responded with, you just hired three white guys. Fire them all. You know what? You deserve it. I'm happy it's happening.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Could not happen to better people. They want to hire based on ideology instead of meritocracy. And then your company burns to the ground. Now Vivek is buying BuzzFeed. You saw this, right?
Starting point is 01:37:43 He keeps buying more and more. He surpassed eight right? He's got like a stake. A significant stake. He keeps buying more and more apparently. He surpassed eight. I haven't checked this week where he is, but it's just climbing and climbing. He said no plans to stop. He's going to buy out the whole company? Yo, that's wild because I don't know
Starting point is 01:37:56 if there's anything at BuzzFeed worth salvaging. But he's saying, I mean, this is what's interesting. His letter to BuzzFeed was like, you need to steer the ship in a different direction. You need to hire Candace Owens. You need to hire Aaron Rodgers. Like, you need to have the other side on here. And basically, because he has the cash to do it, he can potentially have a voice at the table that just the readership of BuzzFeed wouldn't have, which is another fascinating aspect to all of this.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Like, The Washington Post, BuzzFeed, at a certain point, they're going to listen to who's in their staff room. Yes, but they're also going to say, like, hey, boardroom, do you guys all feel this way? OK, that's what we're doing. It's not actually about the readers. It's their own perspective on the world. I think what Vivek is doing is an institutional attack on BuzzFeed because BuzzFeed does not have I could be wrong. I love talk to Vivek about this. I don't see BuzzFeed as having the assets worthy of buying out and fighting for. It's a failing company. Their stock is at, what, a couple bucks?
Starting point is 01:38:48 Yeah. It's garbage. Their market cap is $120 million or whatever, down from $1 billion. 90 plus percent drop off from what their market cap was. You'd be better off taking, like, the amount of money Vivek is putting in. Start a new brand. Yeah, $10 million? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:04 $10 million. Holy crap. The things you could do with that. Now be fair get them involved a scanner look i suppose the argument is buzzfeed is established and it does have readership and so you want to just buy that out instead of building something new it's not easy to build something new fair point fair point 10 million bucks goes a long way though and you could easily turn that into something substantially more valuable if you were to build your own brand. I think what his intention is is to de-wokify an institution. Is that using money?
Starting point is 01:39:33 What would you consider the best example of, you know, formerly mainstream woke pivoting and coming back to reality? Is there an example? Okay, but in terms of a media publication, oh, media, but none. What do you mean? Yeah, no, I'm just asking if there's if there's any example. I think the only example that we know of in modern in in in modern history was the Reno reset the Libertarian Party when the Mises caucus took over in 2022.
Starting point is 01:40:01 Now they did and they won again. And Angela McArdle won her election again. But for a lot of reasons, they nominated Chase Oliver because, you know, it's not, it's, you know, just the battle, the wars are just over, done overnight. But this is one thing a lot of people were talking about at the convention is that this is one of the only institutions we've seen actually de-wokify. They took over. And there's still some cleaning up to do you know if dave smith ran he would have won the nomination easily but he didn't so you end up with politicking backroom deals and then the worst candidate gets chosen but they still for the most part de-wokified the core of
Starting point is 01:40:37 the institution and the people who are running the libertarian party are anti-woke so potentially if ramaswamy were to be able to steer the ship back towards, you know, drifting farther and farther left for BuzzFeed, it would be a pretty symbolic win of sort of, you know, nature healing itself, at least coming back. We should do it. I'd say I'd say by vice, but like, you're better off just starting your own thing. You know, so the I can I can really break down for you where vice went wrong. And it was, they had an article that was titled something like, this horrible app can show you what women look like topless. It was an AI app where if you took a picture of a woman,
Starting point is 01:41:13 it would algorithmically generate an image of them topless. It would generate an image of their boobs. It wouldn't really be them. And I was talking to some guys at Vice and I was like, guys, you wrote that article. I'm like, do you know what the article would have been titled in 2010? This amazing app can show you what women look like topless because Vice was intentionally trying to be shocking and punk rock. Now you're a bunch of whingy, whinging losers who are pissed off all the time. You went from being the kid in
Starting point is 01:41:42 the back of the classroom with a leather jacket on shooting spitballs to the kid at the front of the class pushing his glasses up complaining to the teacher that someone's shooting spitballs at him. I was like, overnight you turned into that. You were the bad boys, and now you're the whiny, preppy losers. Is the whole news division shut down now? At Vice? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:59 Oh, it's gone. Is the website up? Like, are the old articles? I mean... I think vice.com is gone. Let's gone. Is the website up? Like, are the old articles? I mean... I think vice.com is gone. Let's see. Oh, no. It looks like...
Starting point is 01:42:10 Wait. There's a handful. Yeah, no, they're still publishing stuff. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. I thought they effectively shut it all down. They still got some stuff up there. If they reached out to you and said,
Starting point is 01:42:20 Tim, help us. Oh, I'd say give me... I'd say I'll buy the company off. You'll give a hundred grand for it. Like what's the value? So the thing is, Vice still produces stuff for TV. So they still make money
Starting point is 01:42:32 and their cable channel, this is the best part. It's very smart as to why they got a cable channel because it's a guaranteed contract. When they bring your cable channel and they're basically saying, we will give you X amount of dollars
Starting point is 01:42:42 for X amount of years. So they're like, okay, we got revenue. of dollars for x amount of years so they're like okay we got revenue so vice still makes money it still does stuff but it's like it's it's it's worthless and irrelevant to the average person man isn't that crazy they lost all their relevance among millennials they have no relevance among gen z they are just a like does anybody actually watch vice anymore? I imagine no. They still random. Some of their YouTube videos get pretty good traction still. Some of the newer ones. They actually have YouTube videos?
Starting point is 01:43:13 Yeah. Yeah, they do. What's the Washington Post head's name? Oh, yeah. Look at this. They still post videos. Yeah, they get decent views. A couple hundred thousand. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:26 What do they post? Like a couple times a week maybe? Sad. So sad, man. But I mean, the Washington Post guys should reach out. They got a big one a couple weeks ago. I would imagine some of these corporate media executives want help, you know? And they might be willing to start
Starting point is 01:43:46 covering reality i mean it seems like why is this guy making these public statements like this if he's not sort of like asking for help it seems like he's making a cry for help so you know well i mean it's public to the staff right like his his nobody's reading this was reportedly said and it could be wrong but in a staff meeting. So he is publicly saying it internally. I guess he knows there's a chance it could get leaked. I mean, it would just be interesting if we see a star reporter, Rise of the Rings of Washington Post, who kind of is saying, I always wanted to cover this stuff, and now I couldn't before, but now I can.
Starting point is 01:44:21 It really, I think, depends on, to a certain point, like what the writing room is willing to cook up in terms of steering the ship. We're going to go to Super Chats because we're a little bit late today, but I really wanted to read that media one. So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to timcast.com, click join us, become a member to support our work directly. And we're going to have a members only show coming up for you guys, a call in show where you as members can call in and talk to us and our guests. It's good fun. But for now, we'll read your super chat. We got Clint Torres in the first super chat
Starting point is 01:44:53 saying, howdy, people. Howdy. Token Black Guy says, howdy, people. What do you think about Byron Donald's being Trump's VP? I think that is a based choice. Byron's absolutely fantastic. You know, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not a politician. I don't know good marketing and political optics and stuff like this. I don't know who we should choose, but Byron Donalds is pretty fantastic. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:24 Ian is made out of graphene, says a source close to Tim Pool's office said, Meow. It was, in fact, Seamus. Which one? One or two? One. One. Yeah, the cartoonist is not here. He's Seamus, too, by the way.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Yeah, Seamus won. He was yelling. That's what he does all day, just yells. Let's go. Xenon1 says, I'm sure it's fine, guys. The u.s can just give russia the old oopsie daisy we'll get well soon card with a one dollar bill in it just a little goof just a little silly fella there you go elk moon says i'd say more a hard rock band in la fighting the culture war on the front lines check out our debut single, Information Monopoly, on Spotify. We think you'll dig it both lyrically and sonically. Sonically.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Is that the right word? Yeah. That is. Sonically. Basically, they're saying we think you'll like the tones that we pick. Yeah. Do people say that to you? I love the tones in that song.
Starting point is 01:46:20 It's more likely that someone will say, I like your tone, than they'll say, I like the way it is sonically. But sonic is more grammatically correct. You say, I like your sonic? No. No. I like the sonics of the record. Yeah. The rule.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Let's go. Max Reddick says, Tim, I know David Peckman has his own show, so it's hard to do, but you should try to get him on IRL or Culture War. That dude's losing it with his TDS. We invited David Peckman on the show before. He just asks for money. This is something very common among the left. They only do shows for money. Not all of them. Destiny comes on when we ask. Vosh came on a couple times. But a lot of these personalities, they'll just be like, sure, here's my fee. And we're like like have a nice day you know we don't pay guests so later maybe maybe one day david will come on while i'm on the culture war or something but i will tell you this um i don't believe that david packman um and like well you know look like
Starting point is 01:47:23 jenky uger likes to tweet things where he says, like the Republicans believe all the lies from Trump, blah, blah, blah. But when he was on the culture war show and I calmly was bringing up details from the Ahmed Arbery case, he lost his mind and started going. And just like that was an exaggeration. That's literally what he did. And he shut down. And I'm like, my dude, if you can't listen to a thing that happened, like, I don't know
Starting point is 01:47:49 who you're talking about when you're saying they just listen to lies all the time. But that's the reality of these liberal personalities. For David Pakman, I guarantee you, my view of Pakman is that he knows he's lying because he has to read the news all day. I also read the news all day. I read the New York Times. I use the New York Times as a source. I use MSNBC and CNN. And even when you use these sources, the conclusion is the same thing. Let's let's do this. Like there's no games here. Let's pull this up. Politico, Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire. January 11th, 2017.
Starting point is 01:48:31 This is it. Donald Trump wasn't the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials from a former Soviet bloc country. Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton's allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers. A Politico investigation has found this is seven years ago.
Starting point is 01:48:59 This story has never been retracted, only corroborated. So when David Pakman did a video where Ted Cruz was asked about this report, David Pakman ran a video where they were laughing at Ted Cruz. It was Chuck Todd says, do you really think Ukrainian was trying to sabotage, was trying to influence the election? And Ted Cruz is like. The New York Times reported they did, and then you hear in the background an MSNBC producer or an NBC news producer start laughing and David Pakman's like they're laughing at him. He actually believes this. There is no reality where David Pakman reading the news misses these stories. I I pull up the New York Times and I'm reading the front page. I go to Politico. I read the
Starting point is 01:49:42 front page and I'm like, wow, look at this story. Ukraine was trying to sabotage Trump for some reason. David Pakman goes, I just I just never see these stories. Impossible. There's no reality where the Krasensteins, Cenk Uygur, David Pakman, Kocklinski and the rest of them miss these stories and just whoopsie, this one story went right over my head. Doesn't exist. It's not reality. That's why I say they're lying, because I will pull all of these stories up for you. So where am I politically? I don't know about policy. All I know is when I read the news, I'm like, wow, this story is crazy. Ukraine sabotaged Trump to get and they put and it put Manafort in jail. And then when you talk to them,
Starting point is 01:50:19 they go, never happened. And I'm like. Do you not read the news? Is there like a CIA agent who just tells you talk about this video and you have no idea what you're talking about? That's not true either. The reality is these guys go online, read the news and then think to themselves, well, I can't cover this story because it'll piss off my audience. So I'm going to ignore it. I'll give you another example for David Pakman. On one day, David and I ran the complete opposite stories. My story was Trump's approval rating skyrockets. David Pakman's story was Trump unfavorability skyrockets or his polls tank polling tanks. And I saw his video and I was like, did I get something wrong? How is he saying that Trump's polling is down? Oh, because David took one poll that showed a negative outcome for Trump and then
Starting point is 01:51:12 ran it as his lead story. Whereas I used the RealClearPolitics aggregate. I said, here's all of the different polls. This one shows Trump doing really bad. But when you add them all up, Trump is way up in his approval rating and favorability. This is what they do. They selectively choose one story that will fit the narrative so they can rally their cult base and then accuse us of doing the opposite. Ladies and gentlemen, I will pull up CNN, MSNBC, Politico and all the corporate press news guard certified sources in the world and show you they are reporting all of this stuff. And then they say that we're making up our line. That's the wildest thing. Crazy. But there you go. There's your answer on David Pakman. What do you think are some are some topics
Starting point is 01:51:56 that Kalinsky Pakman would say that you are, you know, not going to cover due to, right. Well, there's no subject we would ignore. If it is the top of news, it is literally what we talk about. When we start the show every night, the question is, what's the biggest story right now? What they would probably do is when I said that Western forces fired rockets into Russia, they're the kind of people who go, no, that's not true. Ukraine is its own country. You've got to be a moron to think Ukraine isn't taking orders from from Biden. The reporting from Politico is Biden approved the use of U.S. weapons by Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:52:36 That means they're waiting for U.S. approval to do these things. Now, of course, you make the argument it's because they don't want to lose access to them. So they're saying, we'll take your weapons within the restrictions you set for them. That still means Biden is in control of when and who they attack. And it still means that Russia believes it is NATO personnel attacking them, not Ukrainians. But I don't know. They lie about everything. It's there is no reality where if you were to actually read the news, you would conclude Donald Trump was guilty of civil fraud, sexual abuse. And this is the problem. It's not a question of whether you're pro-Trump or not pro-Trump. Did Joe Biden offer a quid pro quo to the president of Ukraine in exchange for firing the prosecutor?
Starting point is 01:53:22 Fact. He admitted to it on camera. We had Hunter Avalon on the show and he smirks and goes, that never happened. And I'm like, okay, here's the video of it happening. And he was like, oh, now that guy can imagine doesn't actually read the news. Fine. But there's no, there's no way you're going to convince me because I've known David Pakman for like 12 years that he's not reading the news longer than that. There's, there's no way you convince me he's not reading the news. I know for a fact he's going to The New York Times and he's likely just saying,
Starting point is 01:53:47 better not show that story to my followers. Oh, better not show that one. You only and I'd imagine a lot of the stuff he is going to be singled out, selective and ignoring greater details. This is why Tim Kess IRL was vaccine neutral. This is why we were lab leak neutral. This is why we get criticism for it. This is why I said Trump lost the 2020 election, because I don't just target or tackle partisan issues. I just say, here's what I know and what I don't know. This is why I said the Covington kids, I don't know the kid did anything wrong. It's why when all these stories come up and I say, honestly, guys, I have no idea. It's because I don't. But the people who are coming out, these Democrat personalities, they're selectively pulling stories to lie to
Starting point is 01:54:35 an audience to build a base. And it works because political interests like it. Let's read more Super Chats. Ben Randon. Jacob Hawley says, uh-oh, just disappeared. That's YouTube for you. He says, crew, I'm terrified. If World War III starts, if a civil war kicks off, you can consider World War II and the Mongol invasion an effing joke. So many people would die. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Yeah. Yep. The Quartering asks, hasn't Ukraine been using U.S. rockets since day one? They are attacking Russia directly. They are fire rockets into Belgorod. This is NATO weapons delivered to Ukraine to attack Russia directly. So this is a major and a tremendous escalation. Fighting in Ukraine, the argument is we're allowing Ukraine to defend themselves from a Russian invasion, giving Ukrainians weapons and then saying we hereby authorize
Starting point is 01:55:29 the use of these to kill Russians on their own soil. Imagine if Russia deployed weapons to the cartels, trained them how to use it, and then handed the clicker to a cartel member and said, fire on New Mexico. We'd be like, yeah, Russia is attacking us. We don't care who's pressing the button. They're Russian weapons. We Are Chained says World War III already started. Well, there you go. Let's see. Bucket Aquatic says, Tim, if there is a World War III and our placement rate is below what it should be, who do you think will be drafted when the 18 to 27-year-olds die? They'll take everyone they can for this one. that's what i said yeah uh they go they go so i'm not first in line after the 18 to 27 year olds then they're going to go to like 28 to 34 year olds and then after that you know we'll find our way but um i don't
Starting point is 01:56:18 think we survive we'll get to that point dj white says re military draft my body my choice and women in congress who don't have to sign up for selective service have no right to create laws that require men to go to war and sacrifice their lives but you know what the answer to that is those older people in congress will just vote to draft women too and that's likely going to happen i'm really excited for it we're we're probably going to have a debate with some gen z biden guy i think harry sisson's refusing to do it unless it's scott pressler and scott pressler won't debate so it's not his thing is it oh look harry sisson has agreed to come on the culture war and debate scott pressler
Starting point is 01:56:55 scott pressler said no um and i believe it's because he's he doesn't care he he's he's doing registration stuff and he doesn't want to debate yeah or at least that's what he said i don't know i'm not familiar if he's done other debates yeah i don't know so uh we asked harry harry said only scott okay whatever uh someone else is coming on and it'll be really interesting because i'd love to hear them at be asked about the draft you know very interesting let's grab a couple more super chats here let's see what have we we'll scroll down a little bit jeff green says maybe the biden administration had him sign an executive order to pardon 350 000 immigrants and allow 250 250 000 a day because
Starting point is 01:57:42 they're only pardoned if they fight for the u.S. It's $2,500 per day. And he didn't pardon $350,000. He just dissolved their cases. So now they have no deportation orders. They're just living here. Yeah. They live here now. And even less reason to be in contact with the government,
Starting point is 01:58:01 a.k.a. having a new idea of where they are. Mike Perry says, I work in animal feed. The FDA has implemented quarantine procedures industry-wide. I think they are using this to squeeze the food supply before the elections. FYI, I love you guys. Keep up the great work. Very interesting.
Starting point is 01:58:19 Dally Vice says, hey everyone, I put out a new music video called Con Men and Liars that you guys might relate to and enjoy. I wrote it around the same time of the State of the Union, also on streaming. Fan of the show. Appreciate it. And it's music night tonight in the Super Chats.
Starting point is 01:58:34 We Are Change says, MMA match confirmed between him, Luke Rutkowski, and The Quartering. I think The Quartering would destroy Luke. I don't know how big The Quartering is, but I hear he's a big dude. He would destroy Luke. Very large. Luke, you will be destroyed. The quartering will destroy you. I think, I mean, like, Luke trains, you know, but I don't think Luke,
Starting point is 01:58:57 Luke, you don't do martial arts or anything. How tall is Jeremy? Jeremy's tall. Yeah. He's a tall dude. I think Jeremy would throw a couple hits at Luke and Luke would go down. I think Jeremy is in the area of, like, unless you really know what you're doing, Jeremy can just manhandle you with body size.
Starting point is 01:59:12 Luke trains hard. In my backyard for the RNC. We might be at the RNC. Jeremy, you've got to come out. We're trying to get our RNC venue. It's super difficult because the RNC controls all of them. And so it's just, it's really difficult to get a place to do a show. Assuming we do, and we may, then it'd be cool to have you out, Jeremy.
Starting point is 01:59:36 What are they, they're just arguing in chat. What is this? Luke says, I'm a feather, further, super lightweight. That's right. All right, we'll grab some more. Connor Cooney says, Tim, they're pushing the bird flute to cull all livestock so that we have to eat the bugs. Then they make us all vegetarian and the world is saved from the evil cow farts. They really...
Starting point is 02:00:01 Luke says he does kickboxing. I don't know. I think any sort of food scarcity would heighten tension. And again, if we're going back to the study reference before people being more aware during the pandemic or at least paying attention to the news more like I think that could actually backfire for Biden because the news does not show that he is commanding strong leadership of this country right now. Luke would destroy the quartering. Oh, man. They're going to have to have to have a charity MMA boxing match. Keemstar.
Starting point is 02:00:37 Someone light up the Keemstar signal. Come on, Keemstar. Luke versus the quartering. Let's hear it. And Alex Stein can be the presenter. The referee. I think he'll just join in. Or the quartering. Let's hear it. And Alex Stein can be the, like, the presenter. The referee. I think he'll just join in. Or the ring girl.
Starting point is 02:00:50 The ring girl. Carter Mai says, Canadian here, America is the last bastion of freedom in our world. We need you. Take back your government and your freedom. All freedom-loving eyes are on you. Do not go quiet into the night. Race against the dying of the light. You are our light.
Starting point is 02:01:05 We are. Yes. We will try. All right. Dustin M800 says, isn't a war what the Biden admin and deep state want? Wouldn't that be better for them this year? No, they want the war. They've got the war. The war is happening. What they don't want is to lose public support. And at a time when the economy is is being strained because of how they're spending, it is a problem if they come out and they're like, oh, we are we are doing the war. You already had that massively viral tick tock where the kids like I can't afford rent. Why are we sending one hundred billion dollars to a country no one can find on a map? That's how Americans feel. So they certainly don't want to become a talking point. All right, everybody. Let's see. Maybe there's a... Jason Dixon says, Hey, Tim, Bitcoin is now above $71,000.
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