Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1043 Trump Verdict MAY MISTRIAL, Alleged Juror Family PREDICTED VERDICT w/Christina Urso

Episode Date: June 8, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Elad, & Serge are joined by Christin Urso to discuss Trump's guilty verdict being questioned after judge sends letter highlighting potential jury misconduct, Hunter Biden's daughter testifying in his trial, Democrats melting down over the Biden DOJ going after Hunter Biden, and Chelsea Handler saying 50 Cent cannot vote for Trump because he's black. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Elad @EladEliahu (X) Serge @sergedotcom (everywhere) Guest: Christina Urso  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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already showing this this message, removing the MAGA crazies quote from it. We'll read the full quote for you. And now many people are speculating that the judge with insider information on the jurors may actually believe this is real. Otherwise, why would they submit this letter to both parties? There's a million and one reasons why this may be the case. I have to wonder what the is going on. Some are suggesting that Democrats realized Trump's improving in the polls and making tons of money. So they're trying to undo this and walk it back. Maybe or maybe they're trying to trigger a mistrial to force Trump once again back to New York for another multi-week long trial to jam him up so he can't campaign. We'll see. We'll see. It seems very odd because the Facebook posts could very well just be fake. But I don't know. People are given their reasons. So we'll talk about that. Plus,

we've got a bunch of weird stuff. I mean, the Hunter Biden prosecution is rested. We've got left wing activists calling for the extermination of Republicans in response to Hunter Biden being criminally charged for buying a gun while being a crack. It is the weirdest thing. And then you got NATO preparing for a full-scale invasion of Russia. You know, so, okay, that's not fun. But we'll see how it plays out. And, you know, we'll prep. Head over to TimCast.com. I'm sorry, head over to CastBrew.com.

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monday through thursday so we will not have one up tonight but uh this show is only possible thanks to you as members so timcast.com click join us and we could use your support smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Christina Urso. Thank you. I'm Christina. I'm an independent journalist, content creator. I go by Radix Verum on YouTube. I am at NotRadix on Twitter. I am currently directing and producing my first documentary, Kidnap and Kill, an FBI terror plot on the Michigan Whitmer fed-napping hoax. You can watch the trailer, support the film, and learn more about it at knkfilm.com. Awesome, Christina. I'm looking forward to hearing a little bit more about that Whitmer case. I'm a

journalist here at TimCast News, CNR News, a lot of Yahoo. Hannah-Claire, what's up? Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow. I'm back. I'm also a journalist with SCNR News. That's Scanner News. Follow all of our work at TimCastNews. I think a lot's going to have some cool videos going up tomorrow. Hi, Serge. Hey, guys. Let's get into it. Your camera's all weird, though.

Yeah, I just used the wide shot. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. All right, everybody. Here's the story from NBC News. It's a weird one. Judge in Trump's hush money case raises questions about social media posts claiming to claim claiming to preview jury verdict. Judge Juan Mershon asked prosecutors

and Trump's defense team about a Facebook post that appeared to preview to preview. You mean predict NBC News? What are you doing today? The court. Actually, let me just see if I can pull up the letter itself. This is from Brianna Morello. She has the actual letter. So it says, Dear Counsel, today the court became aware of a comment that was posted on the Unified Court System's public Facebook page and which I now bring to your attention. In the comment, the user Michael Anderson states, my cousin is a juror and says Trump is getting convicted. Thank you folks for all your hard work. The comment now labeled as one week old responded to routine UCS notice posted May 29th regarding oral arguments in the 4th Department of the Appellate Division unrelated to this

proceeding. The posting entitled, The Appellate Division, 4th Department, will hear oral arguments this morning at 10, and the comment are both viewable, and then here's the link. And this is signed by Judge Juan Merchan. It's weird that we're getting this. Now, Mario Naufal has a great post. He says, Judge Merchan edited the Facebook post copy, which is weird. He did. Here's the actual post. Michael Anderson said, thank you for all your hard against them.

This is an intentional error. I'm saying, I'm reading verbatim. Thank you for all your hard against the MAGA crazies. My cousin is a juror on Trump's criminal case, and they're going to convict him tomorrow, according to her. Thank you, New York courts. Then responded, now we are married. One person, Lopp, said it's free speech and said, well, you just implicated your cousin in a crime. If what you say is true, it is against the law for a juror to discuss the case before it is ended. Thank you for shedding light on your cousin's actions. Why is the judge highlighting this and sending the letter to both parties? It only would benefit Trump.

If this is a legitimate legal proceeding, then Trump's lawyers can now argue for a mistrial, I guess. I see this. I crumple it up. I throw it in the garbage. I say people post stupid things on the Internet all the time. What do I care? Some are suggesting, because the judge knows who the jurors are, that the judge has been able to verify that this person is in fact in some way related to one of the jurors and thus there's legitimate grounds for a mistrial. I don't know that's true. But the question then is why did the judge send this

letter? There's something really funny about all of this being disrupted by someone's like semi boomery relative on Facebook making a comment. I think he has to alert the jury of it to keep the idea that this is a legitimate and trustworthy court up. You know, the internet sleuths are never going to let it go. It's already dated a week old. So if he doesn't, if if if Mershon doesn't get out in front of it, it's going to look like they are actively suppressing something that could affect the trial. But again, like watch out for your relatives on Facebook, man. They could bring down everything. I'm no lawyer or legal expert, but I do think it's significant that the judge was bringing this up and thought to mention it at all. I'm hoping it's an elaborate troll,

though, because that that would be the funny elaborates. I mean, elaborate enough to get on the news and have to not even. Or are there multiple comments? Because even the emojis in the comment from, in the copy that Mershan sent out in the letter look different than the ones that are used in the screenshot we have. Like, is this like one guy's relative who's like commenting on all of these things? According to an article by Fox 5, it says the profile for Michael Anderson has little publicly available information, but the user identifies himself as a trans-abled and professional S-poster. Yeah, so there you go. Right.

So why is the judge entertaining this? Which makes it weird, though, because typically they would investigate this stuff anyways before it would ever make it out to the news. Like, they would have already investigated this and looked into it. I'm surprised. This is weird.

I don't know. I don't know what it means so what nbc news is saying when a defendant who has been convicted by a jury but has not yet been sentenced learns of alleged jury misconduct he can move to set aside the verdict under new york criminal procedure law if a defendant can prove that jury misconduct may have affected a substantial right of the defendant the remedy is a new trial that's bad for trump a new trial means that he once again will not be able to campaign and will be stuck in New York. They'd lock him down for another six weeks.

Unless Trump's thinking like, I don't know, we get another guilty verdict. We're going to make another $400 million. I was going to say this conviction hasn't really hurt Trump at least so far the way that I think they wanted it to. It's not really affecting his positions with independents. It's not discouraging people. It's obviously been a huge fundraising platform for him. I guess the biggest issue is like if they have to go to retrial, what happens, you know, obviously with sentencing being July 11th right before the RNC, that is sort of the big hang up for me right now in terms of how does this affect Trump? That seems to be where it could snare him the most. But, you know, if you can make a billion dollars off of a conviction. Politically speaking, do you guys think it was better or worse for him to be found guilty?

Like, was he hoping for the jury to find him guilty so he'd be able to advertise and kind of have a rally around the flag effect? Not guilty is better. Not guilty is better. Not guilty is better because then he comes out and says they won't stop but they got their guilty verdict because they're in a democrat jurisdiction where the the jurors are like i ain't gonna be the one to stick my neck and now let me flip it a little bit what do you think the joe biden administration is hoping for when it comes to this hunter biden case probably not guilty because if it comes out is not guilty then it may look like

some impropriety with the joe biden, like weighing the scale one way or another, not being able to get a fair trial in his favor in Delaware. So I think that it's obvious the Hunter Biden charges are obvious with the gun charge and the tax evasion, as I understand, are like open and shut cases. So if he's able to get away with that, he was prepared to plead guilty when he had a plea deal. Exactly. Now he's like, just kidding. I'm not guilty. So then they'd look it would look bias in that way. So I think that I don't really know. I mean, he's clearly a character. I don't know one way or the other if they thought it would look better for him to be acquitted, because then it just looks like it's not a fair system. I think that everybody looking at Hunter Biden knows what he did.

And I think that they want to see him face the same kind of justice everybody else would have to face. So I think it looks better for Biden if that happens. And then he says, oh, look, the system works. There's no favoritism. Right. Do you think that there's a certain level of cynicism with the American justice system?

I mean, you know, because you have this documentary coming out about the Whitmer case. I think there's a certain level of cynicism with the american justice system i mean you know because you have this documentary coming out about the whitmer case i think there are there's a certain level of people saying you can't trust a jury anywhere or a judge anywhere because there's so much political bias in everything we do these days yeah i think that's merited yeah i think there's some saying like a good prosecutor could indict a rock or something so like with all this evidence against hunter it would look like the the scales were being tipped in one favor if you weren't fine i think that at this point at least half the country knows that the the legal system is corrupt yeah i i think that it's terribly so i don't know that it can be fixed well and i think that's sort of what trump's campaign is capitaling

capitalizing off of right now their people feel like they knew the system was not good. Now they feel like they have this confirmation and actually supporting Trump, donating to him, doing whatever, is the only way they can take action and sort of fight back. That's a really powerful sentiment to have at your disposal. Yeah, definitely. I am confused as to why the judge sent this letter over what is an obvious troll post. See how the emojis are different? Maybe he's trying to cover his basis. Yeah.

I think that there must be multiple of these. That's why we have this one here, but then the other one looks different. That's my theory, at least. It would be good if it were a troll. There are no prayer hands in that one. There's only the celebration emoji. Yeah. It's the same username, though. The image

is different. Well, I think they could get to the bottom of this relatively quickly. I guess, actually, they'd have to get a search warrant or something, but they could find the information if they were to digitally have communicated this. Yeah, you just depose the person who wrote it. Yeah, but then they got a subpoena

Facebook. I think Facebook's cooperating. Yeah, exactly. They're cooperating. I know in the Whitmer case, they were cooperating. Oh, but then they got a subpoena of Facebook. I think Facebook's cooperating. Yeah, exactly. They're cooperating. I know in the Whitmer case, they were cooperating. Oh, they volunteered in the Whitmer case. Does this delay sentencing then? Like, does this drag out the process in between, or does he still get sentenced on July 11th? No, I don't think that would change. I don't think it

changes things, but it does seem like they're trying to go Trump into filing something based on this. Very weird. Yeah. That could also be the whole point of it. Oh, Facebook. I'm telling you, Facebook and your relatives. Dangerous. Yeah, but this is an obvious troll post.

Judge Mershon is just not. I mean, I think it's fair to say Judge Mershon is suffering from developmental disabilities. I think that's an honest assessment by anybody who can read or see with their eyes. And maybe this is just another example of him going on Facebook and going, oh, oh, and then sending this letter being like, look, and then it's like, Judge Mershon, that is just some random guy making a joke. Or some law clerks just quickly fumbling this together, super concerned. He doesn't even look at it, think twice, signs off on it. I wonder, could there be any legal consequences to a troll post of this?

No. This magnitude? Just goofing off and posting a joke? He said the person claimed they married their cousin. He said, no, when I were married, it's like, okay. When I first saw this, I was like, why is everyone sharing this? Like, what is going on? And then people were saying that because the judge had this letter, they believe that that's it is at least some circumstantial evidence.

The judge has looked into it a little bit. Argument being one of the jurors names might be like Rick Anderson or like Sarah Anderson. And so then getting someone of the same name and like, hey, it's my cousin. And she said, you know, yeah, the judge is like, that's one of the. I think the letter is to protect himself.

I think the judge is sending out the letter to say, like, look, we're aware of these things. You're gone. There's no bias. We're telling everyone all this stuff.

I don't know that it necessarily says that it's actually credible. But again, that would mean that the judge is aware of jury impropriety. And this may be indicative of it or evidence to that. So he's trying to protect

himself maybe or just that like he knows that there could be a conclusion drawn by the public and he wants to say like oh i was proactive about alerting both sides yeah they're not even supposed to have the appearance of impropriety yeah i always wonder if mershawn is gonna retire from the bench like what do you do after this Do you hang out or what do you do? Because it just seems like every any conservative leaning person who's brought to his courtroom on any charge is now going to be able to be like, but we believe that there's. Democrats are giving this guy a promotion. To where? What does he judge?

Who knows? Maybe he could take a spot somewhere in the administration. I'd call Kathy Hochul and be like, what's your plan for my son? Maybe a Supreme Court justice position to reward him for what Democrats would view as his patriotism. Because you know this is a Democrat superhero now, this judge. Oh, yeah. I just think he would retire and get a really cushy position at some university. Some attorney general or something? Hey, you never know. I don't know about AG.

But let's jump to the story from AP. Let's move to the Hunter Biden trial. We have this from AP. Hunter Biden's daughter Naomi testifies about her father in his federal gun trial ending first week. no, the form was clear. The other one is saying, no, there's a reason why it's not. Naomi's testimony, I actually find really sad. So she's testifying about this time period in 2018, where she went to visit her dad. She brought her now husband, then boyfriend with her. They were like maybe moving some of his stuff, using his truck. And she basically is saying like, I didn't see any drug paraphernalia. I was really proud of him for like dealing with his addiction and stuff like that. And there's something about it to me that it's just like,

man, I'm so sorry. Like, I don't think the Biden family is, I think obviously there's a lot of skeletons in their closet and stuff like that, but there's a moment where like your daughter is having to come to your defense and be like, no, he was trying really hard. And then, you know, that he's like actually sleeping with like your aunt who just lost her husband. He's wrecking that family. He's going to go on addiction again. Like he's just such a chaotic person. It makes me sad for a lot of kids in America who grow up with parents who are just completely consumed by addiction. Free Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden should not be criminally charged over this. And he should be criminally charged and investigated over Burris month and things of that nature. But it was one of our super chatters last night who made

the point that the national instant background check system requires self-incrimination. It's a violation of the Fifth Amendment. And the only reason Hunter Biden is being being charged is because he refused to self-incriminate. I agree. Well, and I I I really wanted to hear more from sort of the 2A gun rights community on this case, because, again, it does seem like something they would be like, except for the fact that his last name is Biden, we don't think you're being treated fairly. You know, this is such a messy trial. It's interesting hearing Abby Lowell, his defense attorney, one of his arguments is like, well, he did not think of himself as an addict and the form is phrased in present tense because Hunter Biden had just completed this 11 days.

Yeah, no, but they had evidence that he did crack like that day or something. Oh yeah, and the texts say he was like searching for drugs, but the argument is like he was sober, bought the gun, then did some more crack and relapsed, which is also sort of like,

that's your best defense? Like during opening statements, they have, sorry guys, I spent a lot of time reading about this this week. They have, you know, the prosecutors played clips from his autobiography, which he narrated describing his life in drug addiction. And Lowell, his defense attorney, was like, well, because the book came out in 2021, his mindset at that state is not the same as his mindset in 2018.

So he really didn't think of himself as an addict. And so when they asked him on this forum it's very weird to feel honest on principle I kind of do agree that he shouldn't be charged but if that is what the laws on the book show then it's what has to go forward because then the double standard wouldn't be held if the shoe was on the other floor

well I mean peacetime Tim says you shouldn't charge him but wartime Tim says I am for this and I think he should get life in prison. I think it was a similar strategy with some of how the Democrats were with the Stormy Daniel case against Trump. It was really a PR battle more than I think what it had to do with the actual charges. This case is the same way. It's a PR and political issue for the Bidens and how they're doing this and how some of these details are being brought up um there were complicated dynamics on display hayley biden was married to beau biden the president's elder son was summoned by the prosecution to relive a portion of her life where she she called it a terrible experience she bonded with hunter biden

over the tragedy of her her husband's death and she says that he got him hooked hooked hooked on crack she eventually got him hooked on crack so He got her hooked on crack. Yeah. So again, these are the details that they're drudging up. That really is the issue for Biden. One other big picture thing here is this is in Wilmington, Delaware, where the Bidens are extremely popular. Joe Biden's been elected to Senate there like a dozen times or something. So the Bidens are extremely popular there. Jill Biden's coming to the courthouse there. It's tough to see how a fair trial would be given there, given the community's biases towards the Bidens.

Because the Bidens are a big name in Delaware. And Biden has said multiple times, but he just reaffirmed this during an interview when he was in Normandy, saying, you know, it's really simple. He just responded with the word yes, But he was asked, you know, would you pardon Hunter? Or is there no possibility that you would pardon Hunter if he were convicted? And he said, yes, like, I won't pardon him. And then he's asked, you know, will you respect the outcome of the jury? Obviously, this is kind of a dig at Trump from the ABC News reporter, but Biden says yes. And so

there's this, there's a cynical part of me that's like he's saying yes, because he knows Hunter's not going to get convicted. But there's also a part of me that is like, well, you've made this big deal out of how you're not allowed to say things are unfair and this, that and the other. So you have to say yes, you're going to respect the system. Apparently, Biden's in contact with Hunter every day. They talk on the phone, this, that and the other. He put out one statement saying, I won't comment on a federal

prosecutor but I'm proud of the man my son is in Wilmington I'm not surprised Biden's proud of that in 2020 Biden got nearly 27,000 votes and Trump only got around 3,500 so just trying to understand where this is a jury

of Biden's peers how were Delaware and Rhode Island? How were Delaware and Rhode Island states at this point? You know what I mean? Just barely hanging out. I had read this article or read this data from, you know, after the census every 10 years, they put out a thing being like, here's the ways that we have errors. And I think Rhode Island was supposed to lose a congressional seat.

So they only had like one, but there was an error in the population. So they got to keep two or something like that. It was really weird. The trial of Hunter Biden, again, I don't feel like I know enough about gun law to be able to comment. It does seem like the kind of thing that people who are very pro-gun rights would be saying this is unfair. And I think some of the questions that Abilol are raising, while weird and sort of nitpicky, kind of make sense. On the other hand, Hunter Biden openly admitted to being an addict. This has been a big part of his narrative journey. He's talked about it in his autobiography.

And I don't know that the Biden family has ever really addressed this issue in a way that is sympathetic enough to the American people. I was honestly almost surprised that this prosecutor, if we believe that Biden's pulling all the strings in the government, which I think it's mostly his staff. But like, how did this even get this far where they were allowed to do this, except for the fact that at

one point, you know, he had this plea deal for tax evasion, Hunter Biden did, and also the gun charges. And they were trying to mold them together. And we had a Trump appointed judge throw that out. It's just this weird clash of like, what are we allowed to do? He's the first child of a sitting president to ever be criminally charged like this. Okay, hear me out. I know everyone's concerned about the 2A ramifications for this case, but for now, what we should do is lock up Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Jill Biden, Hillary Clinton, Comey, Clapper, Yates. I don't want to read every name off the list, but we're only getting started. And so with this, I accept putting all of those people in prison for a very long time.

At least until we figure out what the heck is going on. That's right. We got to put a stop to this. Who would I put into prison? That's a good, only somebody who's, I mean, we'd have to go through individual crimes. I believe in due process still even for my political enemies. You know, there's someone that's I think the Democratic Socialists of America needs to be abolished. So the entire political party, I believe I believe in wartime reciprocity.

And so if we keep playing this game of guys, guys, Hunter Biden should go. No, don't care. I'm completely over it because they're putting Bannon in prison. Bannon didn't do anything wrong. They put Peter Navarro in prison. They're putting Trump in prison. It's you know, look, we're in a lawfare stage in this country. And if Republicans just keep sitting back and saying, well, I'll put it this way. Imagine playing a game of Monopoly where you are watching the other person just take cash out of the bank and stick it into their pile. And you're like, you can't do that. And they go, yeah, I can. And you're like, I guess I lose again. Like at a certain point, you got to be

like, I'm not playing with you anymore. Yeah. Have you ever played a game with a little kid who just keeps changing the rules so they can win? Like that's sort of the impression I have for so much of this right now. Absolutely. Yeah. So at this point, I'm kind of like, given what they ask for free speech and due process for those who request it for anybody who thinks there should be none, then we apply none. And this means that there's only a microscopic point zero, zero, zero, zero two percent of people who I would be OK with putting in jail without due process. And it's the people who have advocated for jailing people without due process. You come to me and say we should be able to arrest and jail these people.

I'm like, OK, we'll start with you. There you go. Look, the gun controlled people of all people defending Hunter Biden. I ain't playing that game. You can't come to me and say you shouldn't be allowed to buy a gun and then defend Hunter Biden when he's doing crack and buys a gun. OK, but he had been sober for 11 days. I think there's a relatable way, I believe, for President Joe Biden to talk about this. I don't think it's unique to Hunter Biden to be in the thralls of addiction. And it really goes to show no matter how powerful and well-connected and privileged you are,

you are not beyond the realms of becoming a drug addict and ruining your life. So maybe if Joe Biden talked about it like that, I don't know if that would be politically advantageous. But no other addict who had bought a gun under these circumstances would have been given the plea deal that Hunter Biden was offered. This is the conversation about the two-tier justice system

that I think it really comes down to this moment. I think a lot of Americans, again, I'm happy to have a conversation about whether the law that's in play is real. To your point, if it's the one on the books and he violated it, then there is a level of he should be held accountable the way any other American would be. It's hard to prove if you're a drug addict. And I think he kind of got screwed over in how they had the contents of his laptop leak and then it became obvious i mean if they lined up the date as a drug addict okay yeah it was in the book because it's in his book that he narrated right yeah and he's also like getting his girlfriend slash brother's widow addicted to

crack cocaine that he had multiple girlfriends come forward and talk about it like all of they showed the pictures of him like shirtless and holding a crack pipe like it's not great and how many crimes were committed like throughout those pictures like that were not prosecuted right like tim said i think that there are so many things he should be prosecuted for like barisma like financial crimes and I think that this that they're getting him for this. This actually shows the two tiered system that if this was anybody else, they actually would have been hit with fraud charges and all this other stuff. But this is what they're giving him to make it look like, oh, nobody's above the law. I don't believe that.

I want to I want to jump to this tweet. This is from Ellen Barkin. Shout out to Ellen, who is I believe was she like a screenwriter or something? I don't know what she does. But she's got a couple hundred thousand followers. She's a prominent Democrat whatever means necessary. No bloodshed, though, because it's a real crime. All fall down. You corrupt MFers. The first thing I want to say is this is the DOJ under Joe Biden. Democrats calling out Hunter Biden's crimes is ancillary to the fact that he's being prosecuted by his dad's administration. Makes you wonder why. Sure. I don't trust what's going on. But seriously, the gun control people are in defense of the crackhead who bought a gun and lied on his background check for him? Why are you advocating for background checks if you defend a guy who lied on it? This is a really weird time to be alive. Hypocrites. This is why I'm saying,

you know, Will Chamberlain talks about, I think Jack Posobiec peacetime conservatives and wartime conservatives. I don't consider myself conservative, though the left does because they live in Wally World. But I certainly believe in peacetime classic liberalism and wartime post liberalism. That is to say, these people have shown their colors over and over again. They demand. It's a Martin Bailey. We need background checks for guns. Hunter Biden clearly violates it.

No, no background checks. He's fine. Let him go. You're corrupt. Dude, stop listening to these people. They're not telling you the truth. Careful, Tim. Ellen's going to send you to Mars, apparently.

Yeah, because that's what she meant. That's what I mean. She's saying this really intense thing, and then she's like, but no's what she meant. That's what I mean. Like she's saying like this really intense thing. And then she's like, but no bloodshed. That's not what I mean. Are you sure that's not what you meant? That's what she just said. I don't know.

I think that this is, again, this I talk about it sometimes where there are people who are so committed to being Democrats and being part of the progressive part of the country that they don't actually think about their values or ideals. And so she doesn't, she doesn't care that it's a gun charge. She doesn't care about anything. She just cares that anyone with the last name Biden should not be persecuted in any ways. Like forget all the details. And that is weird. I mean, even, you know, I think you could say the same thing. There are some accolades for Trump who would say, you know, he is, could never be touched by anything. But in this case, like this is Joe Biden's administration that's in charge of this. Again, I'm sort of surprised that

this was even allowed to to be brought to trial. Maybe it's just that his crimes are so egregious. Maybe to your point, they're saying, oh, well, we'll let him get a nice little plea deal on these issues and we'll ignore all the other ones. It's hard to tell, but it's sort of illogical hysteria that's going to plague a lot of American politics, especially going into the election. I've been saying Democrats are a zombie horde, right? Some of them are lich kings, meaning

they are undead and cognizant of the world around them, and others are just zombies marching forward at the command of the puppet masters. These people have no idea what's going on. They don't understand any basic morality or morphology. They have none. Their claims, their desires, their policies are non-existent.

One day, women is offensive, so they say Wemixin. I'm not kidding, with an X. And then the next day, they say Wemixin is exclusive because trans women are women, so just say women. There is no functioning logic behind their desires. It is just chaos. I guess the issue here also becomes the weaponization of the DOJ. And once we start seeing Trump be indicted, we're going to see Democrat presidents in the future be indicted by ambitious Republican AGs.

Trump allies have been sentenced to prison time. Many of them. We spoke about Bannon last night. Trump hasn't been sentenced yet, but Peter Navarro, in the past, Paul Manafort, Papadopoulos,

Roger Stone. It's a long list. So if we see a sort of tit-for-tat escalation here is the real issue. If Trump seeks reprisals when he gets elected, which I think he alludes to sometimes in a kind tone. And then the Democrats like clutch their roles. They're like, he's saying he would lock up his political rivals and opponents.

Right, because that's what happened in 2016. What have you guys been doing since 2021? Can someone like, you probably don't have enough characters to make this list, but can we get a list of all of Trump's associates who have been falsely charged and imprisoned? Well, I think it's like a flimsy charge is what people um in steve bannon's case contempt of court has happened in the past but steve uh contempt of congress has happened in the past but bannon's the one who gets sent to prison for it navarro was in prison right um

i'm looking the former chancellor for months after yep convicted of contempt of congress for defying a subpoena related to January 6th. It's funny because there are really long lists of people like Forbes has one, Newsweek has one, but they also stop tracking them after a while. Like if you Google this right away, which I just did, because I used to pull these names pretty regularly when I was reporting and it would be like 11 Trump's associates. But that one is CNN from 2021. Like they stopped updating their list because they just got so ridiculously long. Hillary Clinton committed a crime by having a private server where there was government and redacted files that she shouldn't have had on private servers and then destroyed all the evidence with software. They could have gone after her or they could have had her throw somebody under the bus if they wanted. But Trump chose not to prosecute.

His whole campaign was about locking her up, chose not to go through with it in the idea of unity, I guess. But it seems as though the Democrats do not hold back in not only indicting Trump's allies, but Trump himself. Trump thought he was going to Trump thought I won. I'm the president. Now I can be in charge. And he had no idea what he was up against. He should listen to Schumer when Schumer said the intelligence agencies got six ways from sunday from coming after you trump wasn't paying attention and i think it's funny that um you know people talk about uh trump's hires that he he put the people in power who ended up doing

these doing these things to his his associates it's it's it's the people he hired. Who was the Attorney General to who recused himself? Oh, the South Carolina guy. What was his name? It's been so long. Jeff Sessions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So even when they try to do it right, they can't get it. Nah, the deep state went to Sessions and said,

resign now or else you're in. He's like, I'm out. I'm out. Leave me alone. Leave me alone. Do you think there's any way to reunify America at this point? Or is it just two political factions that are drifting further apart? I do not see there being a way to unify.

The political norms kind of ends when you indict Trump. It's not just that. It's like one group thinks that babies can be aborted at nine months. Look, there's like, look, there's zero logic behind it. I'm not a staunch pro-lifer. And this is not even the only issue. I am just trying to find the moral consistency and logic for the decisions we make and why we make them. So I talked to a conservative pro-lifer, they'll give me all the reasons, they'll hammer them down. And I'm like, I completely understand exactly what you're saying. I don't know that I agree. That's how that would be the appropriate way to

handle it. So the argument I would have with, say, any Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder is going to come down to, I understand what you're saying, but in the long run, will this result in a negative or positive outcome that we want? The left's argument is we have no idea. You're wrong. We want to abort babies at nine months. No matter what logic you present or ask them, it's just women can do whatever they want. The best example, of course, was when we had that liberal feller, Lance from the surf song, and he said a woman could abort whenever she wants to her body. And I said, can she do meth? And he's like, no, because that intentionally kills the baby. And then I was like, hold on there a minute.

Like, there's no morals. It's just chaos. It is a raging, it's a cultural fire. And so if we keep, if you, you can't walk up to a fire and ask it to kindly leave your home. This is what I feel like a lot of conservatives are doing when they say things like, well, if the law says so, you know, well, fortunately we can't do anything because the law doesn't say. And I'm like, your house is on fire. You need to just get a fire extinguisher. Instead, you're going, excuse me, fire.

The door is that way. What are you doing now? Now you're going to the other room. Oh, geez. As if the fire is going to abide by your logic and laws. It won't. It's going to keep spreading. It's going to keep advocating for catastrophe, the sterilization of kids. How about that? Rampant degeneracy and abortions at nine months. There's no reasoning behind why they want to do these things other than they just want to. It's just chaos. Yeah. And on the politics of abortion, I think Trump navigated that area masterfully.

He early on, he was able to appease the pro pro-life faction of the Republican Party. He was able to appoint some pro-life judges. They end up appealing, not appealing, repealing Roe v. Wade. But now he's saying he doesn't want he wants to have each state legislate their own way. So, like, I think he's really being able to not be painted as an extremist, but still have the pro-lifers on his side. Although he isn't full-throatedly pro-life, like, and he isn't seeking to outlaw abortion in every state. I think it is. It's an interesting issue that we now have on, like, do we have common goals as a nation? Like, do we have something that we are trying to work towards? Like, if everyone agreed we don't want abortion anymore, then the argument over like 12 weeks birth, like that would

be a very different and I think probably more productive fight. Whereas if you one side that says we want them, the other says we don't, like there's kind of no compromise, you can make these compromises where everyone's unhappy, but it's not the same. But you know, there, I generally think that this this split is deepening all the time. But there are moments where I'm like, maybe there's some hope out there. Like, I don't know if you saw this. Sorry, do you want to? Yeah, I have the same feeling. Like most of the time, I feel like things are so bad that there's very little everybody can agree on now. There's very little middle ground. Everything is politicized. But I also feel like it's gotten so politicized and so polarized and crazy that people are also kind of tuning out of politics altogether.

They're not interested in politics anymore. And I think that that's a good thing because then I feel like the shift is now more people who see what's happening to our country and don't like it and want it to change for the better. And then there are people that see what's happening. They think it's a good thing and they want more of that. Yeah, it's interesting. So Joe Manchin just switched to being an independent, left the Democratic Party. Obviously, it's very interesting because West Virginia is used to be a Democrat stronghold. It's definitely a Republican state now. It's one of the only states in the country that went entirely for Trump in 2020. And he is ushering through this new immigration bill. He is objecting to a rule that's out there that's about basically how unaccompanied migrant minors are handled and managed basically by the

federal government. And he is spearheading, they're calling it bipartisan, but it's him and like 40 Republicans who have backed it, which is also interesting because when he came out as an independent, there was a question of like, but are you just independent in name only? Are you still coxing with Democrats? What are you doing? So he has this legislative effort. He's working with Republicans and his objection to it is that the rules that they're using, they say, you know, put basically put migrant, minor unaccompanied migrants in danger. They make it so there's no vetting of whoever the sponsor is, who's they're supposed to send the migrant kid to live with. And and there's no follow up in terms of like home studies to see if they're safe.

It's it's it's dangerous. And I'm sure there are Republicans who are signing on to this. Maybe they do want child welfare, but also they say we want to stop incentivizing sending minor children across. We want to fight incentivizing sending minor children across. We want to fight human trafficking. Like there is actually a common goal in this, even if there may be talking about different aspects of what the dangers are, if it's a burden for the government, the taxpayers, things like that. So there are these moments where I'm like maybe there is some sort of realignment happening, but it's just not enough on the political front. Maybe you're right. The fact that it's happening kind of socially, that people are turning inward and saying, well, what are my values? What am I interested in? Instead of just paying attention to team politics is really how you would see the shift in the divide. oversight hearings and I felt like that was for once it seemed like that's something they can come together on that both sides can agree

we need to reform the prison system you know it's interesting no because Trump did some prison reform and then got wailed on it for it because it was bad I feel like Republicans in principle aren't the party of prison reform they're not they don't care about solitary confinement and it's crazy

because we have the political prisoners right I was going to say maybe they'll care about solitary confinement and it's crazy because we have the political prisoners. Right, I was going to say maybe they'll care about it more in the wake of all the January 6th prisoners. Most of the people in jail aren't political prisoners, though.

Most of the people in jail are just criminals and deserve to be there, frankly. I would say that is absolutely correct, but I do think the amount of political prisoners that exist

is way more than people realize. Yeah. Extending well beyond J6. Oh6 oh yeah there's a lot of you know there's probably tons of stories of some dude who's in new york la or whatever and they know that there's a politician who's doing something wrong and the cops just up their house i remember uh reading about bakersfield in california some dude had evidence of police impropriety. And so they kept finding trying to find ways to get the crime on them and then lock them up. And they did. These kinds of thing happened. Happened a lot. I'm a big fan of prison reform. I think Trump was on the right track with it. I want if you were to have a sit down conversation on prison morality, private versus public, et cetera, you're going to get garbled, insane nonsense from the left and hypocrisy. I think prison reform sounds nice on paper, but let's be specific. When we're saying

prison reform, you guys don't believe in lowering sentences for violent offenders, right? No, I'm no, I think violent offenders get sent to an island. Oh, OK. I mean, that sounds like prison reform the other way. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, that sounds like prison reform the other way. I agree with you. I mean, like fixing the Federal Bureau of Prisons, you have dilapidated buildings that are falling apart. You have a high suicide rate. There's a lot of problems in the prisons as far as like human rights issues.

That is something that everybody should agree on. They need more staffing. They're understaffed. The staff that they have have a lot of issues. They have addiction issues, mental health issues. They have spousal abuse issues. There's a lot of issues with the federal BOP that

should be fixed from a bipartisan perspective. I wouldn't see any issues with that. I'm sure the jails are extremely corrupt. I've never been, but... My prison reform is we should abolish maximum security prisons completely. Completely abolish them. If you commit a crime that qualifies for a supermax or maximum security, you go to the island.

And the island will just be one of thousands of different islands. So if you're a violent offender, we say you have been excised from society for your violent offense. Through due process, through evidence, we prove beyond a reasonable doubt. And then we say you're free to go to this island and nowhere else. And good luck. You survive. You're on your own. I don't see why we're paying for you. I don't see why more humane than an actual prison. I don't think it is more humane. That's the point. You're telling them we're breaking up. You've wronged us. So we are saying all the things we build, all the things we sustain and all the rules we agree to follow. You don't. So you can go live on an island and there's fish

in the water and there's critters running around. There's deer. I'm not talking like a tiny little rock. I'm saying like, you know, a couple, like maybe like a square mile or something. And then how many people can reasonably live on it? Good luck. That's why I say maximum security, white collar crimes. We can keep those prisons. You don't need much. Many of these places are like golf courses. You can't leave. And so you're caught committing financial crimes. Okay, you're going to time out. We're cutting off your access to the internet. You're going to wear the white jumpsuit. You're going to hang out, watch soap operas. Nobody's concerned about you hurting anybody, but you did kind of screw up the system. So there you go. And then for a lot of what we see on the streets, mental illness, mental asylums. So we got to stop wasting

money on these prisons. You know, a guy, a guy in a major city who joins a gang and then kill somebody. Why are we being like, okay, now we're going to go send you to hang out with your gang to learn more how to be a gangbanger. I bet Island. It always, it's never made sense to me. And I do think to your point, like right now, because we don't have any altars, don't have asylums, we don't, we sort of just lump a lot of people together and it creates these very crazy systems. I mean, when you talk about, you know, some of the violence data that comes out of it, people will always ignore it because they're like, well, the power structure in prison

is very weird, but it's like, so then why is this what we're maintaining? Like if, if, if any of this, like I agree, violent offenders, you know, you need to take it really seriously. But I also think that if the objective is to rehabilitate people, we're clearly not doing that. And so it seems like this is a system that everybody is pouring money into, the taxpayers especially, that we are not seeing results from. Like there should be accountability there. So someone said, where's that chat? i just missed it oh well someone said did tim just realize he's created cannibal island i just want to stress if i want you to understand if we all live in this society whether we want to or not but you're born into it and there are rules that we follow some written

some unwritten and we all agree you know what we're going to do our best to get along. And then y'all come around with a gun and like, I don't know, shoot a pregnant lady to steal her purse. You have agreed you don't care for the rules that we do. So we say to you, good, sir, we are going to exile you. That's what we used to do back in the day, like hundreds of years ago., exile was a serious punishment because you're on your own. Good luck. Don't come back. I'm good with that. Probably more humane than locking them in prisons where we joke about how they're going to get raped. Now we can be like, your worst case scenario is you have no access to our roads, to our clean running water, to our showers and air conditioning, to our stores, but you're free to live somewhere else. And if you call that cannibal island because that's what they end up doing, I don't see why

that's our problem. Everybody who lives here has the opportunity to abide by the rules and they don't want to. What do you think is more humane? Locking them in a cage where we joke about them getting raped by other people, where they could become hardened criminals and join gangs or go live the way humans lived a thousand years ago. You're on your own. In my experience, criminal justice reform has kind of just been a Trojan horse for anarchy, at least in my experience in New York City. Criminal justice reform candidates are usually George Soros DAs. It works in conjunction with that where they plea down and whatever charges are. It's like an arco tyranny. Yeah, which is a bad thing, which is why I'm actually against criminal justice reform. And then we see the way that

it affects in principle. Again, it sounds nice. But then in practice, I feel like it always ends up going wrong. It ends up to things like bail reform and cashless bail that we have now in New York City, which, again, in principle sounds nice, but leads to more violent crimes happening on the streets. So like on principle, I think it sounds sounds nice but in practice uh tell me how my prison reform would not result in a reduction of crime it's just it's just it's used as a euphemism though the the politicians who say they are for criminal justice reforms are are george soros yeah and stop using their language. Okay.

If the ideas we're attempting to convey are how do we fix the prison system, don't use the language of the left, and then... We need law and order DAs. We need not DAs focused on criminal justice reform. I don't think that solves the problem. I think the idea of taking a 17-year-old kid who murdered someone to join a gang,

putting him in a prison where he then joins the gang, which in there and they say here's how you work in the system here's how you work outside the system here's how our gang operates inside and out part of the part of the gang operates inside and makes money doing so i'm like there's a reason why these people don't fear prison because prison is just another component of how their gang operates if the alternative is island i'm with you if the alternative is if the alternative is which is what most people do when they talk about criminal justice reform is only giving him 10 years or 15 what about bringing back like medieval forms of like we they used to have the stacks they used to have other things we could really be creative about this. No, but for real, for people who were non-violent

offenders or drug offenders, they throw them in prison. They don't get the rehabilitation that they need. Why not do something different, more creative? I think the island is the most humane and I think the island makes the most sense. The reason

being, if someone is innocent, all you're really doing is saying, like, we're breaking up. Like, I'm not going to give you my stuff anymore. So the worst case scenario is it does suck to get exiled. But if you're innocent, at least no one's putting you in the stocks or whatever. No one's locking you in a box where you might get raped. You just have to figure out how to make a fire. And, you know, I do think, I'll clarify this because I was talking yesterday. The island doesn't just mean a desolate island.

I'm talking about very, very basic infrastructure. We figure out how many people can reasonably be sustained on it. And there's a big building with, like, bunks. And then you guys sort it out. You want to be violent? You want to kill some woman because you stole her purse? You guys can go figure it out. You want to join a gang? So how about this? This is what they do. These gangs will go to a minor, a 15-year-old. They'll give him a gun and say, this guy is on our hit list.

You go take care of him because you're only going to jail for three years. And then when you get out, because you'll be a minor, you're going to say, the gang made me do it. Then they're going to put you in juvie for a couple years. You get out, then you're one of us. How about this? Sorry, dude. Island. A 15-year-old. Island. You killed somebody. Well, I suppose it's fair to say if you're a juvenile, there will be still some extenuating circumstances for, do we really blame the kid? But we cannot let that kid join the gang and go back to where they came from. So then I think the answer would be for juveniles who do these things,

they get exiled to other parts of the country and they have no communication orders with those other people or something like that. But I think for any adult that is engaging this behavior, if you were to ask me, it's like, hey, you've been falsely accused of a crime. You can get locked in a box where people are gonna joke about how you're about to get raped or island. if you were to ask me, it's like, hey, you've been falsely accused of a crime. You can get locked in a box where people are gonna joke

about how you're about to get raped or island, I'd say island, two seconds. I will go fish. I will fend for myself, right? So the issue with medieval forms of punishment, which gets into the cruel and unusual, which I don't necessarily agree always is, is that sometimes there are innocent people

that are wronged. But I'm not wronging you. I don't think our society is wrong you by telling you that you're not welcome here anymore. Like if someone goes in your house and takes a dump on your floor, you can kick them out. Right. It's like saying it's a privilege to be a part of our community. And if you abuse that privilege by violating our laws or, you know, attacking other people, you don't get to be part of this. I will say this. I can tell you this for a fact. One guaranteed way to reduce crime would be to make the punishment

for aggravated crimes. You are paraded around the city in a diaper. You are made to crawl and goo-goo-ga-ga and say, I'm a stinky baby, I'm a stinky baby while everyone gets to film you. I'm not kidding. When I'm hanging out with these kids, I'm in LA or whatever, they say things like, I haven't gone to jail yet. They do not fear jail

at all. But what I can tell you is a lot of the shootings that happen, which we think is gang violence, is actually honor retaliations. Some guy goes on social media and insults another guy, so him and the boys show up at his house and they, they get revenge. They say, don't, don't you, you know, like insult me, right? These guys would not engage in a crime if they knew the punishment was, was they're going to be blasted out on Tik TOK and Facebook and Instagram in a diaper being made to crawl and told to beg in front of all the people pointing and laughing at him saying, Google Gaga, I'm a stinky baby. They'd be like, dude, I'm not getting caught, dude. I will not do that. That is like you're that that is it. You will never be hard again. You will be made fun of. You will never escape that for the rest of your life. That would terrify people. I'm not

advocating we do that. I'm just explaining the current jail system is not a not a deterrent. It does not disincentivize. It sounds like what we used to do to the tax collectors, the tarring and feathering, almost. Kind of a version of that. It is, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just think there's a lot of young guys who they want street cred. They go to jail and they brag about what they've done.

Ain't nobody going to be bragging if they're like, I know what you did, goo-goo-ga-ga-me-stinky-baby. Like, dude, you got no credit anymore. It's shame as a deterrent because otherwise you say, oh, yeah, I did this crime and I made it through prison and I'm so tough and whatever. Yeah. You're kind of reinforcing this image that they have created for themselves and they need to project to be involved in, you know, criminal activity.

For a lot of these people, going to prison is a point of honor. They get tattoos. They mark down how much time they've done and they brag to each other. You don't know what you're talking about. You haven't done time. Well, take away his time and put him in a diaper

and see how much he brags about it. He's going to be like, look at my Instagram feed. Look at me wearing that diaper. You don't know what I've been through. People are going to be like, dude, are you kidding? Nah.

They'd be terrified for that to happen. And you've got to make sure you're changing it up. It's not always putting him in a diaper and making them crawl through the street. It's just varying things like that. I think there's something about our justice system that we don't do cruel and unusual punishments, and we give people some basic rights.

And even some of the worst criminals in our country, we're not willing to—we barely do the death penalty. It's unkosher in most states. Even in Guantanamo Bay, we don't even kill the people who we think are some of the worst criminals. Our whole jail system is cruel and unusual. Exactly.

It is a joke that men get raped in prison. I think rape in prison is wrong. The fact that we know it happens as a society, people laugh about it online. Shows that our system is cruel and unusual.

It is in violation of the Constitution. If that's the case, I tell you this. Which would you prefer? Ten years in a maximum security prison or you got to put the diaper on and we're going to parade you around. You say, Google, I'm a stinky baby. If look, if you're in for murder and all you have to do is go around town in a diaper, in a stinky diaper. Murder is different. Murder is the island. OK, murder is the island. Well, you're getting raped on the island, too. No, you're in for murder and all you have to do is go around town in a diaper, in a stinky diaper. No, murder's different. Murder's the island.

Okay, murder's the island. Well, you're getting raped on the island, too. No, you're not. Why not? There's going to be a mess. Yeah, it feels like. You have to defend yourself. You have a chance to defend yourself. Well, that's what happens in regular jail, too.

What you're saying, so what you're saying is the island as I view it is nature. I was thinking more Jeffrey Epstein. That island has nothing on it. Oh. I'm talking an island where sexual crimes were committed, yeah. You live in the middle of nowhere and you're in the wilderness, you figure it out, okay? If you think you're going to get raped walking around the woods one day,

then don't go to the woods. If we take a bunch of violent offenders and put them on an island, yeah, then you're going to have a bunch of creepy whips and violent offenders. But I tell you this, the people who are there for rape are probably going to not do so well because the rest of the guys are going to team up and be like, nah. So the reason I bring up the island thing is because there's already been research on it. And it's dramatically reduced criminal behaviors.

When they forced violent criminals to readapt to survival, learning how to set up a fire, find food, and take care of themselves. It consumed them. It took away their time and energy towards these violent behaviors. That's interesting too, like giving them something that maybe makes them feel like they have a purpose.

I don't know. I think it does make a big difference. I think that matters though. I think everybody needs to feel like they have a purpose and that they're doing something that contributes in some way. Yeah. When people have no choice but to work to survive, then it changes you. Because you're not going to—on an island where there's like—let's say there's 10 guys and they're fishing.

You can try and steal someone's fish, but then they're going to fight you and you're not going to be able to do it. So it's like now you're in this position where you're the only people who are around your people who can fend for themselves. For the most part, you don't have easy victims anymore. Let's jump to this next story. We'll have some fun with it on this Friday night from the Postmillennial. Chelsea Handler said she had to remind 50 Cent that he can't vote for Donald Trump because he's black. The racism of these cringe leftists. Here you go. Here you go. You heard about my ex-boyfriend, right?

50 cent and his support of Donald Trump. Yeah. What's going on between you? I saw your tweets and I go, wait, what's happening? Because you said he was your favorite ex-boyfriend. And then he what does he do? Supporting Trump? He says he doesn't want to pay 62 percent of taxes, which the way is in a plan of Joe Biden's that's that's that's a lie so he doesn't

want to pay 62 percent of taxes because he doesn't want to go from being 50 cents to 20 cent and I and I had to remind him that he was a black person so he can't vote for Donald Trump and that he shouldn't be influencing an entire swath of people who may listen to him because he was a black person so he can't vote for donald trump and that he shouldn't be influencing an entire swath of people who may listen to him because he's worried about his own personal pocketbook so i haven't heard back from him yet but i i am willing to you know seal the deal in more ways than one if he changes his mind and publicly denounces donald trump i might be willing to go for another spin if you know what i'm talking about. There is nothing like so she is liberal white women. I mean, she's completely wrong because we know for a fact that Biden announced a tax plan not

that long ago that would spike almost all taxes through the roof. This is Forbes May 7th, 2024. They literally just updated right now. Under Biden tax plan, capital gains tax will exceed 50 percent in 11 states. This isn't the only story because we covered this a while ago. This is, you know. I don't know to tell you, Chelsea Handler is a low cognition human. I try to be academic in my insults and she has no idea what she's talking about. 50 cent does. He does not want to pay exorbitant taxes. So he'll vote for Trump. So Chelsea decides that to be she should be racist, I guess,

and tell him that black people aren't allowed to vote for Donald Trump. Oh, man, can you imagine thinking this is going to look good if I say I had to remind my my ex-boyfriend that he was black? Like, what are you talking about? Chelsea Handler? Handler shouldn't have even had to come out and she didn't have to come out and say this because Trump's plan to attract black voters through different campaigns, including celebrities like 50 Cent, is not going to work at all. So I don't know why Chelsea Handler has to kind of defend, you know, Democrats against from black people, because, I mean, it's not a good plan. And there's three officials. What's his plan? So there's three officials within the Trump campaign to outline to Politico the former president's strategy to attract more black um voters mainly by using his legal troubles and issues of race in new york more broadly with immigration to try to attract

more of them the thing well nothing else worked so why not the theme is like you i'm unfairly persecuted by the criminal justice system but i don't think this is a play this will be a play that works out trump famously pardoned many black rappers, Kodak Black, I believe, Lil Wayne as well. But I don't think black people will vote any less for Democrats now. Biden will still end up getting 80 plus percent of the Democrat vote, even if Trump

picks a black VP. Trump should offer reparations. Trump should come out and be like, if you vote for me, I will push reparations for the black community. And the reason why is like if you vote for me I will push reparations for the black community and the reason why is Trump supporters would vote for him either way and so what does it matter I hate

the idea of like really trying to it's so boldly trying to buy off voters not that Trump would be unique in that if he did that but it's just so blatant and up front my point is just to rip it out from underneath the Democrats it's crazy how like every five, 10 years, the conversation of reparations comes on the scene. Every four years. Completely

every four years. There you go. Completely disappears once Biden's in office, once they're Democrats in office. Nobody talks about it anymore. But I remember when I got started seven or eight years ago, oh yeah, it was a big, big thing to talk about. I don't know. It comes in and out, but this Trump campaign strategy to attract more black voters i mean good for you guys for trying it will not work and if they were relying on you're better off reaching out to hispanics there's all kinds of stuff that that political campaigns do for a minute to try and buy voters and that like i don't know if you saw this but paul gosar introduced this bill to have the 500 bill have trump's face on it and it prompted all this reflection on the fact that they had been like, we should take Andrew Jackson off the 20 and put Harry Tubman on.

And then so it got paused under Trump. This is an Obama thing. Paused under Trump. The Biden administration, like early January, as soon as the office was like, we're bringing it back. Have you guys heard about this? No. They wanted to get rid of the best Democrat off the 20.

I got an idea. Trump should offer, if he wants to get more Latino voters, he should offer to give back California. No, if anything, he should offer to take more. He should offer to take. It's a two birds with one stone. Right. So you listen, like if you're in California, you're Mexico now, exactly what you want.

And we don't want California either. So it's a win win for everybody. Well, there are all kinds of border communities in Texas that became more red under Trump because they are actually tired of illegal immigration, right? Like, I don't know that Trump actually has to do anything gimmicky. Like he could just keep on keeping on and it would be fine. I think that the worst part here is that probably someone on the Biden campaign like called Chelsea Handler immediately and was like, don't forget to point out these talking points. It's really important that we don't let people get excited about this 50-second thing. I'm just so not sold on Trump trying to effectively reach out to Black voters. In the past,

he did all, we mentioned it earlier, the criminal justice reform. That was purely a play for Black voters that didn't pan out. So maybe he should double down on other things. Maybe Trump and the Trump campaign and staffers know something that I don't. The rally that he held in the South Bronx was a smashing success, although I don't know how politically or electorally relevant that will pan out being. So it was cool that he visited New York, though. I just think it's symbolic. The Bronx visit is just about the fact that Democrats haven't been there,

and that part of New York is taken for granted. When he's reaching out to the 20% of black people that vote for him, it feels like he's doing too much pandering to them and not rewarding his base enough, if anything. We need to solve the immigration crisis. I guess he is trying to tie these issues together, but I don't know how compelled black people would be when he says and talks about immigration swamping us.

I mean, in this case, it seems like 50 Cent is saying, actually, it's the economic issues are what we should talk about more, which is really what they should do, because Biden, if you push Biden on it at all, he's a bad record. This isn't even the most famous black rapper to come. Did he come out for Trump explicitly or was it a visit to Congress that he was doing? But Lil Wayne's more famous than 50 Cent. So I don't know who cares about this guy. Maybe. That's just me as a 50 meter. Do you care about 50 cent are you big fan no you remember 50 cent i remember 50 cent back from back in the day but uh in the club no i think little wayne's a little bit more

well if little wayne couldn't convince black people to vote for trump i don't know if there's anybody who can i mean 50 cent 50 Cent endorsed Biden last time. So maybe the fact that he just is converted now is the bigger story here. I think we're beating around the bush of how totally irrelevant celebrity endorsements are. Nobody's being convinced by Chelsea Handler saying anything like, what moron is being convinced by 50 Cent?

It's like, oh yeah, 50 Cent said it. She could have not talked about this. Like basically what she's saying is like, I'm still thinking about my ex-boyfriend, and I'm sad that he's a Republican. I didn't know they were a thing. I guess they were. I didn't know that, but that makes so much sense.

What she's highlighting is that she's actually kind of alone. I worry about people like Chelsea Handler. How old is she? She's in her 50s. Right. She's a single 50-something-year-old woman. 49. She's 49?

Really? Are you saying she looks bad for her age, Hannah Kaya? I thought she was older. I thought she was 58 or something. That's a really pixely picture of her, too. But either way, it's like, you know, I remember when she talked about how she wakes up, does drugs, masturbates, goes to bed, wakes up, does drugs again. And Ben Shapiro was like, she's miserable. She's absolutely miserable.

And I was like, I don't think so. I think she's very much in the moment and happy, but she's headed towards the epitome of nightmare scenarios for a human being. friends, relationships become harder to maintain, and friends and family begin to die. It is a reality. So, you know, everybody's gone through it. I don't know when the first time it happened to me, I think I was a teenager. I was like 18 when we found out one of our neighborhood friends had died from a drug overdose. And it's like a crazy thing when you realize you will never see them again. You will never hear them again. It's like, you don't really get it when you're a kid because you haven't been around, you've been alive that long to witness these things. Maybe you had a pet die or something like that. And then you get older and it happens quite a bit. And then you end up getting messages from friends be like, hey man, how you been? Just want to let you know, yeah, Rick passed away. A friend of mine had a, he died

to sleep. We don't know how. He was, He was like 37 years old, a kid from my neighborhood. You know, understanding these things, the one thing that is always there for the average person throughout human history is that they have families. They always did. Everyone alive today had a family. Now, you may have been detached from your family, but everyone had a family. If you don't have kids, you will be the first, you will be the first life form in your entire genetic lineage to not reproduce. Chelsea Handler is very much going to end up as an old woman sitting in a house and the kids are going to be outside the apartment

or house and that's old man, old lady Handler's place. She's going to know nobody. Like she may be a bit more fortunate than most that she's famous and rich. Yeah. And the women that she influences that are like her are going to have a bunch of cats. They're going to be destitute, unable to work. And social security is going to become insolvent in 10 years. So for someone like her, I could not imagine the amount of drugs she is going to need to do to overcome the emotional crisis she will experience as more and more of her friends and family die. I remember when George Burns, was that his name? I don't even know. Let me see if that's the guy.

Was that the guy? The older people know who I'm talking about. He was a comedian. Was he an actor? Yeah, I remember hearing about him dying. Yeah, he was 100 years old. He died March 9th, 1996. Crazy, that on my birthday, March 9th,

when I was 10 years old. I didn't know who he was, but I remember hearing about it when I was a kid, and I'm just thinking, I don't know or care what that is or who that is. It means nothing to me. But there are a lot of people who were like, wow, I remember watching that guy when I was a kid and now he died.

And that's going to happen more and more and more. People die. This woman is not going to relate to any Gen Z or Tik Tok or Gen Alpha, Gen Beta, any of that stuff. She's going to be an out of touch. Let's just call her asynchronous or, you know, I don't know what the right word might be, but it's a curse I would not wish on my worst enemies. She's developing a parasocial relationship with an audience. She's going on these late night talk shows. I'm sure she has Instagram friends, but very sad.

Tim, there's something that struck me about what you said in there, a particular part of it. And it was that the first person that you knew that died was from a drug overdose. It's really sad because that's the first person. It was a drug overdose that killed them. And the first person I knew who died was also of a drug overdose. And I feel like that's an extremely common thing, the opioid crisis and drug crisis in our country that we kind of overlook constantly. But for young people nowadays, it really is the first person who you knew died was somebody in your high school or something overdosing from God knows what. So I don't know that. I think that, you know, it makes a lot of sense.

Young kids. Number one killer, I believe, of young. You know, the drugs. It was heroin. Yeah. And that was like the first time I was like, oh, did you hear so-and-so died? And I was like, what? How?

And, you know, a lot of people do have someone where it's like a kid had a medical issue. But it's like young people don't die at the rate older people do. But now once you're in your 30s, and I know everybody listening, they know it. Some of you might have got a message, you know, recently, a week ago, a month ago, where they're like, hey, it's Rick from back home. How you been? It's pretty good. Just calling to let you know, man, that Jim passed away.

He had a heart attack. And it's like, oh, man. And I get those messages. And it's like, it's sad. But for someone like her, her whole thing is she's going on Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel's audience is waning. It's collapsing. The word I was thinking of was anachronism. She will be an 80 year old woman and there will be

no one to listen to any of her cultural references because they won't care. The cultural references and was relevant culturally to young people will be dramatically different and she will be a weird anachronistic personality. I would not wish this curse on my worst enemies, but it's coming for the liberals because this is the world they choose to live in. I think she embodies what she was preached to when she was a young woman. And things obviously changed.

Feminism and the way we treat women in our society has obviously changed, and their role in society has obviously changed. And it seems she completely bought into the liberal feminists. I mean, but there were feminists who had families. This is an important distinction. This video is going viral now, but it is an old video.

What was it dated? The video is actually from the 2020 election. That's why it says flashback. Because initially 50 Cent was going to endorse Trump, and then at the end he was like, no, I don't like that guy. I'm going to endorse Biden. I don't think 50 Cent, any of these black celebrities endorsing Trump isn't doing a thing. I mean, the thing is, there were feminists way back in the day who did have children.

Even now, you know, 50% of all women say that they were raised by a mom who identified as a feminist. Right. But I think with Chelsea Handler, feminism and women's role in society, the narrative that's there is part of it. The other part is just a rising culture of selfishness, right? She, to me, that's really more than feminism. That's what Chelsea Handler embodies to me. It's, it's a, well, if I had children, I wouldn't be able to do the things I wanted to do when I wanted to do them with you. It'd be the death of the life that is, that revolves around me. And that's, that's true to a certain point when you have kids, right? but there is something more about building a

family that is worth it i think speaks to the human experience into the soul uh and i think a lot of our culture right now really revolves around sort of self-obsession we have instagram accounts that are telling you if how much people like you constantly thinking about how you are viewed by other people what should you be doing this like it's it's about the self more than it is about the community and you know i think conservatives talk more about this than i feel like uh left-wing causes do left-wing causes will say like oh it's good for the community but what they really mean is the individuals that make up this collective group that sort of think they have something common whereas i think when conservatives talk about community it really is about this this thing that you are actively participating in and

contributing to and part of that is having. Part of that is also just being active in your community. I was listening to something about Rockefeller and the fact that he was a workaholic, but also he taught Sunday school, right? This is something he felt very important. And that's fascinating, right? Because he obviously felt a devotion to the children that were being raised in a religion that he also felt devotion to like all this guy did was work and teach sunday school fascinating i just think we've got to get back to the basics and restore america to look like the handmaid's tale i always thought those robes were really cool in the tv show they look kind of glamorous to me i'm not going to pretend i've seen the hands have you seen the hands made i was kidding by the way but it's it's maybe a few

episodes all i've noticed was in the women's march they used to dress in the costumes and now it's like a common yeah i get why you don't like the head covering but the the red robe is cool man i thought that was kind of fun what wasn't wasn't the story like the it's like the world like a war happened and the human population was decimated so it's war but also like the fertility rate collapses from what i know about it that like they they people stop being able to have children and there's an idea that it's like environmental issues which like the gilead society ultimately ends up kind of seeming to solve uh which is what it is about from what i watched like mid i just watched the first it's

it on netflix i'll report back i'll put it this. I can't speak to the Handmaid's. I've never actually seen it. I've only seen snippets. But in the general idea of a fertility rate collapse, population decimation, and humanity on the verge of extinction, any civilization that condemns the idea that women should have kids in that scenario deserves to go extinct. Like pandas. I don't know why we're trying to save them. Because they look funny, I guess.

So cute. Yeah, the baby ones are absolutely cute, but dude, if a species won't reproduce, the species ceases to exist. I love those videos where it's like the giant mom panda we say are holding its baby and then a caregiver will come like hand it an apple and they'll be like, wow, and they'll steal its child.

Like, yeah, you guys are not doing great here. Nope, and that's probably why they're gonna go extinct. will come like handed an apple and they'll be like wow and they'll steal this child like yeah you guys are not doing great here nope and that's probably why they're they're they're gonna go extinct but weird we're seeing this play out in many countries where they're below japan dude especially in asia oh let's let's let's korea toronto let me pull this up we pulled up we got this story from cnbc actually swipe right please japanese officials push dating apps in effort to boost birth rates the fertility rate in japan is apocalyptic it is the worst we've seen like people don't realize that in one generation your country can cease to exist if the fertility rate drops to a certain level like right now what

are we at in the united states like 1.3 or something or no no are we less than that um with birth rates but i think our we have net positive immigration that puts us. That doesn't count. That doesn't count. I'm specifically talking about fertility. Imagine this. Imagine the entire generation has no kids. That means in 20 years, there will be no 20-year-olds.

That means in 40 years, there will be no 20-year-olds. That means in 40 years, there will be no 40-year-olds. And that means the aging, retiring generation, there will be no one coming next. They will eventually lose the ability to work, and then they will starve and die, and there will be nothing. Japan is facing

ever-increasing something like this. United States is 1.84. Okay. Oh, not bad. Fertility? Increasing, ever increasing, increasingly something like this. United States is 1.84. Okay. Oh, not bad. Fertility? Fertility.

Fertility, right. Wow. I mean, that's not good, though, right? Remember, replacement is like 2.3. Yeah, but in like China, they're at like 0.9. So we're doubling some of these guys. Oh, wow. Good. I'm so glad the entire world's about to collapse.

Japan is at 1.3. Wow. Wow, man man their current population is 125 million south korea i'm on the cia's website it is uh 1.12 wow isn't that crazy like it'll all just fall away yeah especially for japan and south korea which are really uh have a strong sense of culture and identity that is passed down through your family and through your community. If you don't produce people, literally everything about your culture that's unique

goes away. It's wild. I think when people talk about should be women's choice to have kids and whatever else, I don't want people who hate children to have them. On the other hand, it matters if your country is having its own children. South Korea is 0.81 births per woman as of 2021.

I think we're going to have a reckoning and have to deal with the consequences of technology and the consequences of feminism that we might have initially thought were good things. For example, things like birth control, obviously make less babies around, the ubiquity of abortion, things like that, birth control. Teen pregnancy isn't a thing anymore. A couple of decades ago, it was pretty common. So the unintended consequences to that, although it seems kind of obvious, is less children. And where does that lead us? People don't end up having children or as many children as they would have had down the line.

Well, this is why I think that the decades long attack on the family is such a bad thing. Like the idea that the government would sort of make social services that replace the role that the father traditionally used to have the idea that we would tell women, actually, it's really important that you're in the workforce and the labor that you do at home is not as important. You remember, we had a Bureau of Home Economics at one point because we believe that the home and the family unit was central to our economy. And instead, we've made it about the individual and about keeping women and men in the workforce with as few dependents as possible.

And I just think that that was obviously not about the welfare of our culture. It was about servitude to the state. Yeah. And creating consumers. Yeah, it's awful. And again, so I really think Melania Trump, you know, should she be first lady again, which I really hope she is. She's really good at it. We should forget be best. We should make family first, be her initiative. We should talk about how important it is to value and cherish your family because it's part of our culture. And that includes having children, but also like being there for your grandparents being there for your parents as they age like we we should stop making it about ourselves only it should be about

the community which i think i really really believe starts with the family yeah and we've really come on such a turbulent time socially culturally um with how the genders view each other some people don't even know what gender they are and the consequences people who need strong families to guide them through life lack of religion religion decreasing in our society women out not out earning in all cases but women matching how much men make make marriages more difficult for whatever reason that we could dive into but there's so many of these small things. Christina, what do you think?

Yeah, I mean, I think more women are graduating from college, too. I'm very concerned about, like, young men, the future of young men, because I feel like they're checking out from society. They're also checking out from dating. And we have a culture that treats them like they are a burden, not even just like they're not an equal part. Like people actively treat, especially, you know, young straight men as if they are society's problem. I think that's awful.

I'm conflicted because in and of itself, many of these things aren't bad. Like women graduating at higher rates than men isn't necessarily a bad thing. But some of these unintended consequences that we're seeing as a result of them leading to the decline in birth, which is, I don't think something that we thought was a problem 30 years ago is the issue. And then how to deal with that. Because again, I guess we don't want to, you know, there's no way to put the ketchup back in the bottle or something once this is out of the bag. The toothpaste back in the tube.

The toothpaste out of the tube. Once this is out of the bottle, we can't, it's very hard. I think it's easier to encourage women to have less children than it is to encourage women who have few children to have many more so yeah it's it's just cultural if you know we were talking about this uh this morning and we've talked about on the culture war if society is showing young women all the movies are women doing masculine things. You've got either men as the heroes or women as the heroes, but even when the women are heroes, they're doing things associated with masculinity. What's going to happen? Humans desire compliments. Humans want to know that

they're doing the right thing. They want commendation. So for young guys, go back 200 years. What do they want to do? They wanted to join up. I want to join the Continental Army. Go back to 70, 76. They really wanted to fight. They wanted to be a part of something.

They wanted to be the great adventurer. They wanted to be known for the great works they did. And women wanted to raise families. And they were concerned about who they were going to marry and how they were going to have a family. Why? Because when the women would go hang out with women, the women were all talking about the great things they're doing with family. And so the younger women are like, it's being reinforced in you. If you want the compliments, if you want people to cheer for you, it is these things.

We then inundated young people with media of everything you do that is good must be the masculine role and not the feminine role. So now you have a bunch of young women who want to be CEOs and girl bosses instead of being moms. Or would there be sold to fall stream where they could do both? And the insulting thing to me is that feminism destroys femininity. It tells women that the female role in society is a bad thing. And so they internalize it and they view it that way. So when you bring up gender roles and you say something like women should be, you know, at the home with the family, they're like, how dare you say that? Why is that a bad thing? Why is it a negative to say that the women, women are more apt than men for protecting the family and men are good externally and women are good internally. Did you see this thing with Jason Kelsey's wife? Someone said, referred to her as a

homemaker and he came out and was like, we're equal partners at home. Like she does take care of her house, but she's like, it's like rejecting this term homemaker. Like, I don't understand why homemaker has to be a dirty word. It should be good. Like that doesn't – if that's your – like I don't understand why feminism was able to convince generations of women that being told the things that you are naturally inclined to do, the things you are interested in, actually was somehow saying that you were stupid or weak. Like I just don't understand why women bought that other than the fact that they tend to be deeply insecure. And I don't think that they were raised by women who were able to say like the natural traits that you have are positive and they contribute to society in a great way. You should like yourself the way you are. It's similar to what I think is one of the long-term effects of birth control, which is that it trains women to treat their bodies like the enemy.

That their hormones that are naturally supposed to occur are actually this big inconvenience, and they stop you in your tracks and whatever else. All of these things, these two different things, the cultural but also the medical intervention on the things that women naturally do, told women that they are supposed to operate differently in society than they are trained. No wonder they're all anxious and depressed. Everybody at TimCast knows what happens when Allison's out of town. Well, we get a lot of food delivered.

It's really great. It's like I order cheeseburgers and – I'll come into the studio and Tim will be like, yeah, I ate crackers and a can of tuna for dinner. He needs Allison. I'm lucky. So it will be like, hey, guys, a big food order is coming. And then they're like, oh, where did Allison go? And then, see, I would only admit this because Allison is here.

But, you know, she went to go visit family. And for dinner, I was dipping day-old bacon in cheese sauce. I took the cheese sauce out of the fridge. I microwaved it. I pulled the bacon out. And I was just dipping it. That was dinner. And so I have no problem pointing out that when it comes to reading the news and pulling up stories and putting the show together and all that, I do a really great job, apparently.

And when it comes to, you know, the house, I don't. I have no idea what's going on. I don't know how the washing machine works for the most part. Obviously, I can turn it on and make it work. But Allison has everything running like a well-oiled machine. I don't see why. I don't see why. I don't understand why. Actually, I take that back.

I'm using this as a turn of phrase. I totally get it. Malthusians in the 70s wanted to reduce population. They got their wish, and now the world is facing a serious economic crisis and existential crisis. So they wanted to convince young women to be like men and put them in the workplace. Will you miss South Korea when it's gone, when its population has collapsed?

Yes. I think we all will. South Korea needs you, it sounds like. Well, it's not even South Korea. It's just the fact that there are countries that will just cease to be as we know them. They will just not be there because ultimately their populations decided that maintaining being a population wasn't worth it.

I think a solution here is that conservatives or some conservative minded women need to reclaim feminism. I believe in the past it wasn't always completely defined by leftism to the point now when I think of feminism, I'm thinking of people who believe that sex work is real work like that seems to be their top of issue mind and that all women are real women and that trans women are real women that seems to be this i don't know second third uh first second or third or fourth wave feminism but uh in the past i believe feminism was claimed by the women in the temperance temperance movement or something like that. So no, no, I, I, I, I, I don't, I don't agree. Um,

I think you're right, but I think we should only just keep doing what we're doing because liberals are effectively removing themselves by choice from the, from, from, you know, modern politics. It looks like they're removing everybody.

No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. The fertility rate among liberals is really low among conservatives. It's a bit higher, but I still believe it's below replacement. I'm happy with Christian conservatives having a bunch of kids like the two guests, the two Jeremy's on the culture war eachkids, too. And I'm just like, I'm pretty confident that we win just based off of multiplication. And so if right now conservative women already want to be moms, recognize these issues, accept the arguments and have good relationships with their husbands and others, then you don't got to do anything.

Like, you're not going to go to a liberal and shame her into having kids. Right. Well, I think the other part that's, you know, conservative women should be happy about is like, typically, if you're a conservative woman and you're a day-in conservative guy, he values the fact that you want to have kids. And also he wants to be a dad and have children. Like, one of the messages that I think a lot of young women get is like, oh, well, you'll be doing it by yourself and he's going to be off doing whatever, playing video games,

not being helpful. And like the reality is like all of the nice, helpful families that I know, like it's it is an equal partnership between men and women. They just don't do exactly the same thing. And I think especially conservative men recognize like the work that goes into raising children that they don't necessarily do because they're outside the home. I think it's it's really dysfunctional couples that, but by this lie that like ultimately men,

I mean, if you're dating like a man child, like of course he's never going to step up, but that's kind of on progressive women who opt into those relationships. Here's the agreement, okay? I will go out and I will drag an elk back by its neck and lay it before my family. And the mother will be there protecting the children while I am fighting the elk.

I, in all seriousness, I'll go to the grocery store and pick up some fresh elk and bring it home. And then we'll have dinner together. My, my family in Canada, my aunt was a forensic psychiatrist for a long time. She was really successful.

And she tells this story about how her sons and her husband went out hunting and they killed a deer or something. And then they brought it back and they're like, mom, can you clean this? And she's like, because she's got a medical background. She's an actual doctor. Like she literally cleaned and cut up the deer. Like this, this is actually how a lot of families function for a long time. Now, obviously this was just like something they were doing, not necessarily for food, but it's like, it's, it's, there's a relationship between the two things that these,

these people contribute. And I think that's like what we forget and what we were told, especially because the narrative is that men and women are enemies. Like this is what's invaded our culture. I read this thing that said the reason women, or at least the reason why there's a trope that women love shopping is that it is gathering for real women going together to a place and looking at the brightly colored things and then picking the things out that they bring back to the home they're excited for and men are are goal-oriented dopamine triggered jumping off of buildings and running and playing sports because that's the hunt well i think it's all i mean it's it's it's we're wired to do different things and so naturally some of the ways it will burst out

in modern society like with with Alison, like, yeah, she's good at managing the home, but also like, she wants you to be healthy and be able to work hard. So of course she's worried about what you're eating. Like there is a reason that men and women are complimentary. You know, they're like the stereotype. We always saw a video where it's like the guy walking around, the internal monologue is like exits and creepy guy and whatever else.

And the girl is like, like that works because she relies on him to contribute something that like in the home she might contribute differently. Like it's supposed to be a symbiotic relationship. I don't think that that's bad. I think it's weird that this is some sort of threat to feminists out there that that's natural tendencies would be weaponized against you. That's what I'm saying. Like conservative women don't need to be told any of this. They know it. They live it. They feel it themselves. There's no conservative women don't need to be told any of this. They know it. They live it.

They feel it themselves. There's no guy who's going to come to them and explain it to them. They're going to be like, uh-huh, and? Liberal women will reject it outright. So it's just like, okay, let's just have more conservatives have more kids. And then in 20 years, in 40 years, this country is going to be conservative. I think the one factor that we've been overlooking here is religiosity. Level of religiosity is what I believe

is most closely correlated with the number of children you have. And we've been decreasing in religiosity by a ton over the years. And even if you call yourself religious today, you're less religious than somebody who called themselves that a decade ago or 20 years ago or 30 years ago.

And I don't think we're seeing that trend turn around. And as long as that is the case yes conservatives may have three kids on average instead of the one and a half that liberals may have but it's not the five six or seven exactly that's really thrusting us forward and not just making us just past the line of replacement um so until we have a reckoning too with that because even in my understanding i live next to a very jewish hasidic jewish community until we have a reckoning too with that, because even in my understanding, I live next to a very Jewish, Hasidic Jewish community. They all have a ton of kids. They all have not one or two, but seven or eight. Mormons, when I passed through in Pennsylvania,

they don't have one or two kids. They have seven or eight, one of the fastest growing communities in our country. So religiosity is what's heavily linked here. And we need to deal with that reckoning because people are only becoming less religious. And I don't think it's stopping. It's not even slowing. Soon enough, we're going to be in a mostly secular country. Yeah, and look how quickly this has happened. And my dad was like one of eight kids. My grandfather was one of 10 kids.

My grandmother, we have like this picture of her and she's got 78 people like it's our cousins grandkids her kids um the whole family and i just feel like that's not going to be a thing anymore of like a a woman like matriarch with her whole family of 78 people behind her and like families with 10 kids seven kids except in these communities that you're talking about. Well, there'll be kids who grow up without cousins, right? They'll be the only kid that maybe all of their their parents and their siblings had like that. That's so strange to me. My cousins were a huge part of my life growing up. I mean, the collapse of family is is sad. It's a loss. And I think that, again, I think you're right. It's a religious participation. I also think it's

the selling of like your career is ultimately what makes you who you are. Like this culture of workism, whether it's to have more consumers, whether it's a socialist thing or whether it's, you know, whatever it is, this drive. Because when you see about the studies about South Korea and Japan, often they'll say like, well, women are opting to stay in their careers. They say, you know, I've gotten this education, I'm working hard. I don't want to derail it. I'd rather, you know, have my own money and live my life for myself. And I think that that sale of like your professional acumen and your professional degrees and your accomplishments there are the be-all and end-all of your life. To me, it parallels

religious, the collapse in religious participation because religion tells you like, you know, especially Christianity, you know, your life goes on after this, you're living for eternity, et cetera, et cetera. And so you don't, you have to prioritize things outside your job. When your life is your job, of course, you're like, well, having a family takes away from that. What does it multiply and be fruitful, be fruitful and multiply, something like that? Yes. I think it's different. Do you feel like the conversations for women about having kids or getting married have changed in the time that you've been growing up? Oh, yeah, definitely. I don't think we didn't have those classes like the home ec classes and stuff.

We did in Catholic school, but not in public school. I think that's a big part of it. But I also think technology plays a huge role here, because think about like what your grandparents did every single night for fun they actually hung out with people they played cards they they weren't watching netflix they weren't on their phones all the time they didn't have dating apps so they met people like going out in their community everybody stays inside now i think technology is a huge problem phones people being on their phones they didn't have condoms. They didn't have birth control. They didn't have abortion. It was illegal.

People had sex more because they weren't on their phones. You had nothing to do. That was what you did. You'd have the kid. Unfortunately, things have changed now. But that's interesting, right? We have basically put ourselves in a weird absence because it's technology-centered socialization. Take away your technology though, take away your phone and

see what you do for two days or what you want to do. I think the difference is 50 years ago, you're in high school, you go to prom with your date, you knock up your date, she doesn't abort it, you shotgun marry her and then have four more kids. Nowadays, you go to prom with your

date, she's on birth control forever if that doesn't work then she aborts and you don't then you both go to college you go your separate ways you go your separate ways and then maybe a decade down the line you guys get married when you're both 30 she's on birth control she's on uh anti-psychotics i mean and then maybe she could have one child when she decides to settle down with i got some numbers for you okay so i did some rudimentary chat gpt math i asked it what the current fertility rates among liberals and conservatives were i asked how many babies were born based on the fertility rate numbers between liberal conservatives to calculate

how many of those births that were just born were liberal or conservative. Give me the number. I then said, assuming the fertility rate remains static, how many children will be born of each group in 20 years? I then said, I asked it, what is the average age at which a person is having children? It said 27 or 28. I said, considering that, calculate the next 20 years with the cumulative effect of the next generation having additional children based on these fertility rates. And the calculation is within 40 years, there will have been 76.68 million conservative births to 58.87 liberal births. Wow.

Yeah. Maybe conservatives just need to start picking up more wives like they do in the Middle East. Well, I'm just saying the point is we're talking about in 40 years, the children of conservatives will be 20 million, almost two to one liberals. Well, not actually two to one, but 20 million more. Almost. It's a huge difference. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think it doesn't just because you were born to conservative parents, it doesn't guarantee that you'll grow up conservative. On the other hand, you know what? Incredibly likely. It's more likely, but also like what a cultural shift if you have more people having children and saying like, I want a society that supports large families, people who have children, people that value family. I mean, just the process of absorbing this change is incredible. Oh, that's a good question, Tim, right there. And what was the question?

What is the fertility rate among Christians versus atheists? 1.9 for Christians and 1.6 for atheists. Oh, that's interesting. I wonder how they define religious, too. Because, again, levels of religiosity. Everybody's a Christian. There are tons of people who identify as Christian but aren't actually going to church.

Or if you're loosely religious nowadays, or spiritual, you'll call yourself religious. Agnostic was the highest growing religion at one point in the country, which is kind of crazy, you know? Yeah, I feel like that trend... JGPT's nuts. Look at this. That can't be right. That's wrong.

Christian births will be 92.36 million. No, that's right. The Mormons are booming. So Christian births will be 92.36 million. No, that's right. The Mormons are booming. So Christian births will be 92.36 million to unaffiliated at 39.96. But the reason for that is this is a predominantly

Christian nation. So there's already a three or four to one advantage among Christians for having kids. So it's not just that their fertility rate is higher. It's that there's substantially

more of them as it is. So long as you instill your values in your children, there will be a whole lot of Christians in the next 40 years. Should be interesting. We're going to go to Super Chat. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button,

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He says, howdy, people. Ooh, he beat Clint. There's no Clint. All right, Barrett1313 says, not first. When you go to Super Chats, I'm heading to that poker room you talked about.

Hope to see at the table sometime. Would be fun. Yeah, Charlestown. That's the local poker stop. It is a small poker room. A lot of retirees. But on Friday and Saturday, the tourists come in to see the shows. And these people don't know how to play poker.

And they basically give their money away. So all the rounders, they call them, the people who make a living playing poker, know that Friday and Saturday night's the best time to go down. Because some dude's going to be drunk and be like, I don't care. And they're going to throw their money in, you're going to win it, and then you're going to pay your bills. Good luck, sir, at the tables. Good luck. Stephen Says says,

The further society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it, or will. Amen. Amen. Let's grab some more. Henry Back to Play says, It's true. It is an automatic granting of a judgment notwithstanding the verdict or Janov, which would set aside the jury conviction.

It would also be the end of the case because double jeopardy has attached. Really? Because he was convicted already and he can't be retried for a crime in which he was convicted? Oh, I see. This is not a hung jury or a mistrial. This is a verdict was handed down after the fact. That would be interesting.

I don't know if that's true, but that actually might be their play. They don't want Trump in jail. It will help him. They've got him as a convicted felon. Now they can come out and claim it's a technicality and this is BS and Trump's only,

he's a convicted felon. He only got out because of a technical glitch or something like that. Especially considering the person's an obvious troll, they'll argue it was a court mistake. That would be interesting. The next couple of weeks are going to be so weird, you know, let's lead up until July 11th. It's just, it's just a weird unpredictable time. Yeah, definitely. James B. says, look up HR8081. So I want to look that up. I don't know. HR8081.

The Emperor's Champion says, perhaps Comrade Judge Merchant saw the backlash in attempting to save his butt. That's assuming he can think straight and doesn't have TDS. Or if that is true and they use this to effectively nullify and Trump can't be tried again, that would be a power play by them because they're going to come out and say, we know Trump's guilty. But because of a technical error, they can't try him again. But we know he did it.

How is he getting away with this? That's what they're going to say. So HR 8081 is denying infinite security and government resources allocated towards convicted and extremely dishonorable former protectees act, which is it's trying to strip secret service away from Trump upon his conviction. Oh, wow. This was Thompson. Whoa. What?

Filed in April. Benny Thompson, Democrat from Mississippi. They're trying to strip Secret Service from Trump. I doubt it'll get anywhere. It's been referred to the Judiciary Committee. I don't think it'll go anywhere. Manifested Destiny says it's the best of both worlds. Merchan gets out of sentencing Trump while still securing a conviction.

Then the Dems can say Trump got off on a technicality. Yeah, see? There you go. He actually superchatted the 814 well before I even mentioned it. So, yeah, that'll be interesting. This one, Elad will enjoy. Lane Michael says, tunnels just found under the Rafah border from Gaza to Egypt. Why isn't this getting any airtime?

No way the USA didn't know. Have you heard about all the tunnels under North Korea? North Korea apparently has a crazy tunnel. Tunnels to where? To Palestine. To Palestine. Right through the earth. In Afghanistan, too. 14,000 miles.

It's crazy. In Afghanistan, too, they were like, yeah, there are bunkers under the city, and that's where Osama's hiding. Yeah, the resupply is likely coming to Hamas through Egypt, which has many sympathizers from the Muslim Brotherhood. But we could save all the Israel chat for another day. Israel needs to completely invade Rafah, take care of Hamas, and honestly look up north to Hezbollah, where there seems to be tensions arising. Oh, that's going to get hot. So we could save that for another show. Doc Holliday says, I'm a Timcast member. I miss the old vlogs of you guys going to the liquor store and brewery,

etc., shooting range. Can you do more of those soon for the subscribers? That's going to be the boonies. Boonies HQ on YouTube. So a lot of that stuff is going to be the boonies. We are out in the boonies, and we are skating and doing lots of stuff. We've got a swimming hole, and I wanted to go in

the swimming hole, but they told me that it's likely full of parasites. A swimming hole? What is that? It's a pond. Oh, okay. The one across the... It's not across. That's someone else's property. Oh, okay. Our property has a very large swimming hole. You know, West Virginia's been growing on me. I've said a lot of bad things about West

Virginia on this show in the past. I wanted to say to all you West Virginians, it's a really nice scenic, it's a beautiful part of America, a worthy state. I think it's people. I think it has a really unique culture and I like it a lot. You guys deserve a better senator, though. Anyway.

And we will get one. And he knows that that's why he quit the Democratic Party. We'll see unfortunately i think what uh who's who's gonna end up as so who's gonna be the governor who's gonna be the new senator jim justice won the senate primary right so we're not getting a better one sorry never mind did patrick morrissey win the primary for governor he's the current he i don't know did he let me look and then you guys have larry hogan next door oh that is a crackpot. Running for Senate. But he's good for the Republican.

It would be a Republican like him who would win that seat. I give Morrissey C+. I wish he did better. I wish he did more. But he's still pretty good. He's done a lot of good things. He's done a lot of good things. It is what it is. Let's get him on the show. Riley Moore for Congress. Oh yeah yeah. Riley winning is based.

That's based AF. We need to shoot a skateboarding video with him in Congress. Yeah. Riley was here at the opening. He did a kickflip to Fakie on the bank. And I'm like, pretty sure it's the own. You know, it annoys me when they're like, I'm a congressman and I skate. And they don't really skate.

Like, remember, who's an annoying guy who lost all of his races in Texas? What? The guy who looks like of his races in Texas? What? The guy who looks like... Dato! He's like, I skateboard. It's like, dude, you can stand on a skateboard. How dare you? Riley Moore actually can skate. He rolled in and you can tell that Riley was probably super good when he was

younger, but he's like a dad now and he's a state treasurer. But he did what's called a fakie no slide or I don't like calling it a half-cab no-slide, but he slid. He jumped up and he slid on a ledge, and I was like, pretty good. I was like, wow, he didn't get warmed up. And he did a kickflip. That means he jumped in the air,

the board flipped under his feet, he landed back on it and rolled away, going backwards. So, with that, I'm like, there you go. He's probably the only member of Congress who can actually skateboard. But I was talking to him, and I was like, yeah, but it's kind of obvious this is going to happen. Because millennials who grew up skateboarding are now at the age where they're entering politics. So it's unsurprising that we'll start to see more of this.

The skateboarders caucus is going to be crazy then. I'm excited to see that. Shout out to Mikey Taylor, one of the greatest skateboarders ever, who is a Republican city councilman in, I think, Thousand Oaks, California. Really? Yeah, I love to hear it, man. It's amazing to, you know, like I'm growing up and watching him skate, and he's one of the best. And then one day someone was like,

you know that he's a Republican city councilman? I was like, no way. That's amazing. And he's awesome. I mean, he's one of the best skateboarders ever. I'm glad you're being represented in the government, Tim. You're people. I mean, I don't live in, I think he's in Thousand Oaks.

I don't really, I follow his content. I don't really pay attention to his political stuff. I wonder if Congress would kick you out for shredding on the steps of Congress out there, Mr. Moore.

No, because a guy had gay sex in the Senate building and, you know. That's so true. Whatever. He got fired, though, didn't he? And he took a video

and picture of it, too. He got fired. He didn't really do it. He took video of it to send in his groups to brag. Yep. Degenerate. To some voyeurs.

Anyway. Yeah. All right. Let's change the subject. Mike Anderson says, as a Michael Anderson, we disavow the trans-abled-ish poster. We like our Mike Anderson astronauts and pro-athletes better. Maybe it was this guy who left the comment. It might have been this guy.

From space. I don't know. He disavowed. Trying to cover his bases. He disavowed. Now that he sees the heat's on, oh, the judge has sent letters. It could be any of them, we don't know. Proud Zionist

says, it's ironic we get anti-gun Dems on gun charges and not the other laws they break. This basically comes down to not being political charged. If this makes Dems against background checks even better. We've got to Dems against background checks even better. It's funny, too. We've got to get rid of background checks because you see how they weaponize it against

Hunter Biden. It's true. How could they do this to Hunter Biden? It's the Biden DOJ as well. But he's going to get off in Wilmington. There's no way a jury will find him guilty there. That's my professional legal opinion. Vincent Curran says, Vermont just play letters on a podcast.

Vincent Curran says, Vermont GOP rules bar it from promoting any candidate who is a convicted felon. I saw that. That's cool. Oh my goodness. I'm okay with that. I wonder if they'll change their... I don't know that the Republican stronghold of Vermont is much to worry about. Virginia's a swing state now.

This is the latest polling that came out. It's been changed to toss-up. Was it Northam who won there not too long ago in a special? No, Youngkin. Youngkin. Northam lost. Northam lost. He was the blackface pro-abortion afterbirth guy.

Yeah, that doesn't really fly well. I only caught up with him, huh? Yeah, you can only be elected to public office and do blackface if you're Justin Trudeau in Canada. Youngkin was also elected during the CRT time, which we don't hear much about anymore. But I remember when there was a reckoning with that. Youngkin kind of rode that wave. We'll see if, I think it's a two-year term. We'll see if he gets reelected.

Wasn't Northam, he was the one where he didn't know if he was the Klan member or the guy in blackface? Or just didn't say. It was rough. He didn't want to admit which. He was like, I don't know which one's worse. Which one would you rather be? I think blackface is better than clan member because clan members like you're dressed up as a clan member.

At least I could be. I don't know. We have to pull the progressive. I don't think there's a there's a there's a way out. This is a man on the street in New York for you. And Claire, which are you preferring the clan or blackface? Which one do you like more? Which one? Yeah, which one do you like more? Which one? Yeah.

Which one do you relate with? Do a documentary. He's a fan. No, I honestly think you have to pull progressives, right? Like, I think that it's not up to me. I'm not the one offended by any of this. I think you have to ask people, like, which one is worse? I'd say distasteful

to dress up as a KKK member more than Blackface. Christina? Yes, I think you have to ask people like which one is worse. I'd say distasteful to dress up as a KKK member more than blackface Christina. Yes, I don't have an opinion on this. Although I will say for the one in the KKK hood is he representing like the FBI here? That's true. I don't know. So I'm not

sure. Let's go. Let's read some more more what have we here devin true says russia is a bad actor and we are antagonizing them with cuban missile crisis action in ukraine kennedy stated soviet offensive weapons fired from cuba would be an act of war yet here we are yep no question it's insane and the uh the deep states are trying to trick people into thinking we're not involved yeah right dude blue de golier says what if the judge got a call from those who puppeteer biden who now want to make peace with trump because they know he's going to win see if

there was a drop in money given to a daughter's two's firm i think the idea that they're trying to find a way to not put trump in jail and get out of this makes sense because what what do they do if trump goes to jail it's he's gonna he's gonna get two billion dollars overnight it's gonna be nuts if they send him to an island he'd take over and get elected on the island it's true it would be like he's too dangerous to be left alone he must go to to the island. And then they think they got rid of him four years later. We see a ship on the horizon and it's like a woodcraft that was manufactured from the trees on the island. It'd be like a Napoleon thing where they send him off to some island. Yeah, we'll never see him.

And then he comes back, raises an arm. Anyway, I don't want to. That sounds like an insurrection. I don't want to. He's got bow and arrow. Oh, we're not allowed to raise armies anymore? Country's so oppressive. We're not allowed to raise armies anymore the country's so oppressive uh we're not allowed to raise armies all right emacs tactical says as much as i loathe the bidens as

someone who is an ammunition dealer right outside of pittsburgh pa the 4473 form as a whole fails each and every constitutionally check there i agree the idea that you have to self-incriminate it's it's it's insane So how about we use this? We should all come to the defense of Hunter Biden to nullify the federal background check system. I wonder how often these are being or people are being convicted under this statute, because, again, under normal circumstances, it seems like it would be pretty hard to prove somebody was a drug addict at that time. It just seems like one of those things that they safely just say, yeah, you're obviously not a crackhead right now trying to buy a gun. I was Hunter Biden. I'm not a crackhead right now.

I just had a premonition. I had a vision. Hunter Biden gets convicted. All of the gun groups file briefs on his behalf and join his appeal under the argument that federal background check forms are a violation of our constitutional rights. It goes to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court agrees making someone who has not been convicted of a crime self-incriminate and then charging them for it as a violation of the Constitution, therefore the national instant background check system is hereby dissolved,

that would be the greatest thing ever. I'm on board with that. If somehow Biden has a two-way win at the Supreme Court under his presidency, like, twist I did not expect. Tim, if Hunter is convicted, and then Trump was elected, do you think he should pardon Hunter?

Yes. Trump should absolutely come out and say, and I think all the two-way people would cheer for him if he said, we're not here to argue anything Hunter has done in terms of foreign business dealings. We're not here to make political arguments about my previous rival's family. We are here to talk about the violation of the Constitution and how Hunter Biden was forced to self-incriminate and when he refused to do so, was imprisoned for it. For that reason, I am calling on the Supreme Court to make the right decision for advocacy groups to file the lawsuits. But in the interim, Hunter Biden will be pardoned of this crime for that reason. It's funny because Trump or Biden wouldn't be able to say like,

oh, yeah, I'd also. I'm just trying to imagine what sort of like passive aggressive statement that Biden would put out. What if Biden pardons him for that reason? You can't argue with him. He's like, he's right. Trump should have promised to pardon Biden instead of Ross Albrecht at the Libertarian Convention

because Hunter is the new face of the Libertarian Party. Tax evasion, crack, guns. Oh my gosh, Hunter Biden on a Libertarian ticket. He's better than Chase Oliver. I'd rather vote for Hunter Biden than Chase Oliver. The Libertarian Party is this. A bunch of Ron Paul fans and then a bunch of people who want certain things that are illegal to be legal. So there's a guy who's like, he wants to do crack and take his clothes off and he can't. So he goes to there's a guy who's like, he wants to do crack and take his clothes off

and he can't. So he goes to libertarians and he's like, do you think we should be allowed to do drugs and get naked? And they go, well, yeah, you should do whatever you want.

He's like, sign me up. So they get this wacky party of crazy ideas because it's basically a party of people saying, why can't I do this thing that is currently illegal? They're fighting for the right

to do things they want to do. Look. Chick, Chick, Chick Mickin returns, they're fighting for the right to do things they want to do look chick uh chick chick micken returns says tim what are your thoughts on sheldon adelson he bought trump and the rest of the gop and that's why we didn't get anything trump promised in the 2016 campaign i don't think that's right why we didn't get things that trump promised i think adelson what didn't adelson want bolton? He's dead now, by the way. Right, but Adelson wanted Bolton, so Trump hired Bolton. We're not allowed to talk about him. No, no, I just because, did you see, I think he's mentioning this on the heels of Miriam Adelson's $100 million donation to Trump. So that he annexes the West Bank.

Right. You know, I think Adelson's need to be credited and praised for helping Trump get across the finish line. Trump, we complain about when big donors don't put their money where their mouth is in supporting trump and then when they do we complain about them why i think we know why people like uh complaining about the adelson's but uh i think they're doing a great mitzvah with the amount of money i think these are some of trump's biggest donors across multiple campaigns so instead of being thankful we're complaining about uh some of Trump's biggest donors.

Where do you line up on the annexing the West Bank thing? I think we need to annex all of Area A. So I have a question. Because you know Camp David Accords, if we're getting into it, all of Area A. And also, people are right when they accuse Israel of ethnic cleansing. Israel ethnically cleansed all the Jews outside of Gaza. That is the only ethnic cleansing Israel has ever been responsible for. I mean, they removed the Jews from Gaza. They ethnically cleansed all the Jews outside of Gaza. That is the only ethnic cleansing Israel has ever been responsible for.

I mean, they removed the Jews from Gaza. They ethnically cleansed them. There is no longer any Jews in Gaza, which I disagree with. Yeah, I disagree with the disengagement to begin with. And now Israel is losing more lives to have to deal with problems that would have been less hard had Jews still. I have a question for the audience here. If your options were Joe Biden wins or Donald Trump wins and the U.S. has to help Israel annex the West Bank, which do you pick? Repeat that. President Biden.

You can choose between Biden winning or Trump winning, but the U.S. has to help Israel annex the West Bank. Is this question? Anyone who wants to answer. The reason I ask is because Miriam Adelson, allegedly, that's the... That's her ask? Yeah, right. She's going to pledge $100 million in helping him get reelected,

but she wants the U.S. to support Israel's efforts to annex the West Bank. I don't know if there... Is there the explicit quid pro quo in that, though? I don't know. Yeah, I think she's just... It's a report. Between the two of...

Oh, they are reporting that, though? though there was some i'll pull it up because um i think aid the adelson's believe that the republicans would just be more pro israel writ large and that's why they would try to get the republican elected over the democrat not because uh hold on any specific pro quo i just think that in both options we're still entangled his in Israel. Aretz is like an Israeli CNN. So take it with a grain of salt. Okay. Well, so they reported that Miriam Adelson, her condition is West Bank annexation. I don't think they're going to get that, frankly.

I agree. It's a great ask. People, she could want it. She's still going to donate. Trump's not going to be able to okay that. Parts of the West Bank, I'm cool with. Area A, we start with that. What is Area A?

So in the camp, David Accord, it would be better if you asked chat GPT, but Area A is Israel has complete sovereignty and Palestinians still live there. Area B is where they have civil control. Area C is where they have total control. And the West Bank is kind of divided into three parts. Explain to me like I'm five. It's going to be like, I ain't doing five. It's going to be like, I ain't,

I ain't doing it. It's going to be like, no, no, we are not talking about this. It's really thinking. It's really, yeah.

Chad GP does not want to do it. It's just like, Oh wait, it depends on who's asking. I said, what is area a in Israel? Is that the right question? Um,

asking it's sensors. If it's allowed, it won't do it. I think Wikipedia would be doing a good job. If you did like camp David accords, Area A, B, and C. Yeah, ChatGPT is like, I am not getting involved in this. I will say. ChatGPT is like, said, entrapment.

As far as Sheldon Adelson goes, I don't like Jonathan Pollard flying back to make a lie on Adelson's private jet, which he did, knowing the damage he did to U.S. national security. Jonathan Pollard was an Israeli spy, an American citizen who was an Israeli spy. He spied for multiple people. Yeah, I believe it was for money. And then Trump ended up pardoning him.

And he was greeted as a hero within Israel, despite being a traitor to Israel's greatest ally in America. So I agree with you. Patrick Gallagher says Biden will pardon Hunter no matter the outcome of the election. It's his last chance at office. I think so. I think I wouldn't. Biden would. Yeah, Biden.

I think despite the fact that he's saying he won't, he will. I think Joe Biden's going to put out a bunch of pardons for a whole bunch of Democrats. Like there's a strong possibility if Trump wins, Biden's going to issue pardons for stuff that's going to make your jaw the floor. They're going to be like, he's going to pardon Hillary Clinton because you can pardon before a crime has been charged or indicted. He's going to be like blanket pardon for sedition, for all of these things. Yep.

Yeah. Chad GPT says we ain't going there. Something wrong. Did you just break ChadGPT? It says, I do not want to answer that question. Did you guys see the clip from the Whatever podcast? No. Where the woman goes, she says something like, you know, there's these secret agencies, like you've got Mossad.

So when it comes to Israel, and he goes, no, no, no, we're not talking about this. And everyone was like, they got mad at him. I was like, I'm Jewish, that guy? No. we're not talking about this. And everyone was like, they got mad at him. I was like, I'm Jewish. That guy, the whatever. I'm like, I'm not surprised the guy who wants to talk about dating is saying, don't talk Israel, Palestine on my show.

You know, it's like, he's like, he wants to talk about loose women, not the, he's trying to dunk on the, the internet girls. This is not an repertoire.

Okay. It gave an area. A in Israel. First, a region of the West bank where the Palestinian authority has full civil and security control. The classification stems from the Oslo accords, which divided the West Bank into areas A, B, and C with each different with different levels of administrative control. Area A includes major Palestinian cities and is meant to be under Palestinian administrative and police authority, while Israel retains control over security matters and other parts of the West Bank. I think I had them reversed then. Then I want Area C annexed. Could you pull up a map of it if you look it up on a... Oh, I could probably ask it. Here, I'll do this.

Draw me a map of it. It could produce a map? It could make images. Yeah, because Area A, B, and C are very clearly defined. I bet it's going to be a weird, nonsensical map that's like an AI-generated... It's like the map generated, not like... It's like the map for the Barbie movie.

Yeah. It just doesn't have the West Bank on there at all. What? What is this? Holy crap. What? Where did it get? I knew it was going to be fake, right?

Like, what is this? I knew it was going to be some weird fake nonsense. That GBT wants to make Israel an expansionist country. Look, they're really trying to go into Jordan. It's got two area Bs. Yeah, it does. It's got two area Bs. It's got an RA, a Vyalt.

It's got a Nabdow. I knew it was going to do something like this. But it looks really colorful and cute. Do you want to just try Google Tim for the A, B, and C? No, this is more fun. All right, well. I dare you to try to stop us from having fun. And maybe a quarter of Gaza.

It's a cute picture. Okay, this is not a real map of Israel. Oh, it's a bit complex, Tim. You need to understand. Oh. It's shaming you. Oh, I like how it tries to... Actually, B'Telem is like a very far-left organization in Israel,

so it's interesting that the sources they try to use. I'm not familiar with the UN map. I think in a year it'll be able to actually make maps. It's actually really interesting how quickly it's developing and evolving. A year ago you couldn't get text in an AI-generated image. Now text is starting to appear really well. But these political

questions are going to be very difficult for it. So like, for example, if you ask if Taiwan's a country, it'll also give you this weird gobbledygook. What? It looks like there's an issue with the polygons for the areas. I'll correct this and try again to generate the map. Creating polygons using Shapely directly within Pandas data frame may cause issues. I'll use a different approach to ensure the polygons are correctly handled in Geopandas.

Let me correct the approach and generate the map again. This is the third. Geopandas. It seems there is a consistent issue with data handling for the polygons in Geopandas. I will simplify the approach to ensure. Wow, this is great. It's trying real hard. It's trying really hard, yeah.

Here's a more straightforward approach to draw a map representation without complex geographic data handling. Manually plot the areas as colored rectangles. Oops, an error. I broke it. I got them confused. Area...

I was thinking Area A was Area C. Area C is where Israel has its administered. B is administered by the Palestinian Authority where Israel has security control. And Area A B is administered by the Palestinian Authority where Israel's security control. And Area A is totally administered by the Palestinian Authority. Area C is like 50% of the West Bank. Wow, I broke it.

That's unfortunate. I think Israel broke it. Give Israel some credit here. Come on. ChatGPT broke it. I'm pushing it to the limits. In a year or so, it's going to be able to do all of this stuff.

It's going to be wild. You're going to be able to tell it to make a video of Israel conquering Palestine, and it will. I'm sad to... I won't try to sidetrack too hard today, but the New York Times... This is a little better, but still wrong. No, it doesn't have A, B, or C. No, I know. Joran is not a place, and it's certainly not where it is.

And I've never heard of Ehan Pinaya. Look, it got pretty close. You know? It's getting there. At least they gave us the Golan Heights. And Jerusalem? Okay.

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