Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1049 Biden FREEZES On Stage, White House Claims Biden Vids Are DEEPFAKES w/Chris Rose

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, & Serge are joined by Aidan Mattis & Chris Rose to discuss Biden freezing again & Obama helping him off the stage, the White House lying about Biden freezing on stage, the US Senat...e wanting to register women into the military draft, and a Canadian study admitting the chance of a new American Civil War. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Serge @sergedotcom (everywhere) Guests: Chris Rose @ChrisRoseWV (X) Aidan Mattis @TheLoreLodge (YouTube) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's hard to tell exactly what's going on, but he just stops moving, stares at the audience. Obama's waving, grabs Biden's arm and gives him a little tug, and then Biden starts walking with him. Obama puts his hand on his back and seems to lead him off stage. Now, Democrats are freaking out saying it never happened. You're lying. But there's video of it.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I don't know how you deny this stuff. Here's the best part. You know, over the past couple of weeks, things have gotten really, really bad with Joe Biden. You had that video from the G7 where he's like wandering off for some reason. Karine Jean-Pierre claimed these were, quote, cheap fakes. I don't know what that means. And then deep fakes. These are real videos of Joe Biden. They are worrisome. So we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:00:41 And I do have some some fun news for you guys, because apparently a Canadian study, they mentioned that they're concerned about civil war. So we're going to talk about that, plus a whole lot more. Before we get started, my friends, head over. Let me give me a quick second. Let's do this. Head over to castbrew.com and buy our coffee. We've got great coffee. We've got Ian's Graphene Dream. We've got Alex Stein's Primetime Grind. And if you want to support the show, you can buy coffee from us because it's delicious coffee. Ian's Graphene Dream is new. Everyone's apparently raving about it, saying it's amazing.
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Starting point is 00:02:06 Who are you? What do you do? I am a fourth-generation West Virginia coal miner who just won the Republican primary in West Virginia State Senate District 2. I am senator-elect. I am essentially running unopposed for the general election. And what makes my election unique is I went up against a two-term incumbent who was the Senate health chair. He had $1.2 million in campaign support for a state Senate job. It's only 60 days out of the year.
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Starting point is 00:02:45 That's right. Glad to hear it, man. Thanks for hanging out. It's going to be a lot of fun. Joining us tonight also is Aidan Mattis. Hey, guys. I'm Aidan Mattis. I am the host and lead researcher for the Lore Lodge YouTube channel where we talk about strange history, unsolved mysteries, and weird disappearances. That's cool. Two guests, one show. I'm glad you guys both are here.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I'm Hannah Claire Brimel. I'm a writer for SCNR.com, Scanner News. Follow them at TimCastNews on the internet. Hi, Serge. Yo, you too. Let's get started, Tim. Here's the big news. First, we're going to start with this one just so you can get an update on what's happening since this weekend. Biden appears to freeze up and has to be led off stage by Obama at Megabucks LA fundraiser. Now, you name it. Democrat pundits are saying it never happened. It's a lie. My favorite was our good friend, the Krasensteins, our good friends, the Krasensteins, where they posted this video where it shows Biden smiling and waving. And then it cuts to a wide shot as Biden freezes up for about seven or so seconds, seven or eight seconds. He freezes. But this wide shot they post, you can't see anything.
Starting point is 00:03:47 So actually, we have this clip that was posted by Chris Gardner from, I believe, the Hollywood Reporter. So this is this corporate press right here. Take a look at this video. Let's try and see if we can zoom in. And I'm going to play this for you. There you can see he's just standing there not moving. Ha ha ha! So I counted is about seven seconds where Biden just stops moving and his arms go down and he just stares. And then Obama grabs his arm and gives him a little tug and then Biden turns, starts walking. Then he puts his hand on his back. Now, I tell you this. If it was Joe Rogan, who was standing on stage
Starting point is 00:04:48 and smiling and just staring off, and Dave Smith grabbed his arm, gave him a tug, and then Joe turned, it was like, oh, and they walked off together, I wouldn't think anything of it. But Joe Biden's had, in the past week, so many of these videos coming out that the real issue is,
Starting point is 00:05:03 this is how I described it earlier today. If your friend is walking, you know, you're like, let's say you're walking to go get a slice of pizza and he stumbles a little, he trips on his, you know, stumbles and you're like, whoa, are you all right? You don't think anything of it. Five minutes later, he does it again. You're like, bro, are you something wrong? Then you start to notice that over the next couple of weeks, he seems to be tripping and stumbling a lot and having a hard time standing up. You might be like, hey man, I think something's wrong. You've been you've been having this. This is what we're seeing with Joe Biden. The reason why people are saying this looks bad for Joe is that it keeps happening
Starting point is 00:05:33 over and over and over again. What do you guys think? Mountain out of Moho? No, I think it's getting worse. I mean, when the press was describing it, they were saying, you know, he had to get let off stage, the hand on the back motion. But I actually think the arm tug is the worst part. The arm tug is a former president leading our current president off the stage. Like, this is not good. The fact that somebody else has to be like, you're supposed to walk away now. And Corinne Jean-Pierre was asked about this during a press gaggle today. And she was like, well, you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. And they're old friends. You know, that's just something that happens. Old friends, you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. And they're old friends, you know? That's just something that happens. Old friends, you know, pat each other on the back
Starting point is 00:06:07 and apparently guide each other gingerly off the stage. Very, very weird to me. I don't know how you guys feel. I just don't understand why we have people this old in charge. Like, I get that they're the most experienced, but sit back, take an advisory role, be in the cabinet maybe, but stop running for office. Stop being the guy who has the nuclear codes. Like, let Gen X take over. It's time. I agree. And it's not
Starting point is 00:06:30 even Gen X. I think millennials too. Like where are millennials in running for office? We're starting to see it. Good. They should have been running more. Way too much of Congress, the Senate are a bunch of old people, but I will give the caveat while I certainly would prefer a much younger candidate. That's why I like Vivek, for instance. You can't, like, look, Joe Biden's, what is he, 81? Yeah. And Trump is what, 77? Just turned 78.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Just turned 78. Because his birthday was like last Friday, right? His birthday is Flag Day. But yeah, but 78, I thought he just turned 77. So he's 78. Let me double check. Yeah, let's make sure. I honestly thought he was older.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Yeah. I agree on the age thing. But come on, like, Trump is spry. You know what I mean? Like, man. Yeah. I agree on the age thing. But come on. Like, Trump is spry. You know what I mean? Like, man. 78. 78 years old. And see, I'm not a big fan.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Right? And that's why when people bring up Biden's age, Trump says, no, there's no problem with how old he is. He's just a bad president. It's like, ah, there is a problem with how old he is. And there's a problem with how old Trump is, too. Yeah. But there's, like, the gap between biden's gaffes i mean like trump doesn't have these these just don't happen the media tries to make claims
Starting point is 00:07:30 about donald trump but i gotta be honest if donald trump i guess at his funder at tp usa he said the name of the wrong name of a doctor and they were like we got him he said the wrong i'm like we mix up names all the time everyone does you could be 15 be 15. You could be 35. You could be 27. You could be 81. People mix up names. I'm not going to, I don't get mad at Joe Biden for accidentally calling John Smith, Rick Smith or something. I think one time on the show, I was talking about Bill Barr, the former attorney general,
Starting point is 00:07:58 and I said Bill Burr. I say that all the time. It's rough, man. It's not vowel, but it makes a huge difference. I'd take that. I'd have Bill Burr. But there was an issue. I don't know. He's like, he's pretty far left. It's one vowel, but it makes a huge difference. I'd take that. I'd have Bill Burr. But there was an issue. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:06 He's like, he's pretty far left. Can it get worse? Yeah. I'm not for a Bill Burr attorney general tip, I will say. Bill Burr said during COVID, he said, I don't care. I just turn on the TV. If they tell me to do it, I'll do it. And I'm like, but my point is Joe Biden got names wrong.
Starting point is 00:08:25 He got the name of Syria wrong and said Libya. And I'm like, that's a real big problem. If he's giving orders, kind of feels like people aren't going to want to listen to him if he's given these, you know, if he's if he's this deficient. But again, it's not about whether or not you make a gaffe. Trump can make a gaffe. But you watch Trump do these rallies off the cuff and he's he's lucid. You look at Joe Biden and it's just it's getting exponentially worse.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Has Joe Biden ever done an hour long interview? I mean, over the weekend at Turning Point, Trump spoke for an hour. He does hour long like he did an hour long interview with Dr. Phil. Like he can speak for a long period of time. I feel like we never see that from Joe Biden. And even here, you know, maybe they're trying to mimic podcasting with this like three person panel, make him seem more casual or whatever. But it also to me comes across as like he can't actually be on stage for that long alone. Like he needs the break to be able to recover. He was on for 40 minutes, 40 minutes with two other people.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Yeah. So I didn't talk. I could talk for 40 minutes just to himself i'm sure like he probably does it's a huge difference you know and like i again maybe this was a formatting choice to make him seem with it cool who knows but it just really did not convey a sense of strength or leaders like do you remember there was a video of i think it's from the g7 summit it's from an international meeting with you know you've got like Macron there, you've got Trudeau, whatever. And Trump like moves someone out of the way so he can be in a better spot for the photo. Like maybe you don't like it, but he is not going to be led off stage by Obama. And I think that's telling of the mental state, even if they are similar in age.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I don't know, man. It's the grains of sand in the heap. You know what I think with this? Obama, they were supposed to leave the stage. And the only reason Obama stayed and waved is because Biden stopped. And he's thinking like, come on. You can't leave before the president.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Right. And so that's why he finally just grabbed his arm. I think the plan was you get up and now you walk off the stage. Biden wasn't doing it. He's lost. He's lost out grabbed his arm. I think the plan was you get up and now you walk off the stage. Biden wasn't doing it. He's lost. He's lost out of his mind. And for the administration to say this is cheap fakes and we just need to be dismissive of this.
Starting point is 00:10:33 This is a one time thing. It's not. It's happened three or four times within a week. Normandy, the fundraiser. And it's happened several times now. Didn't he? Wasn't it pretty in the last couple of weeks? He was giving that press briefing,
Starting point is 00:10:45 and then he got asked a question as he was exiting the room, and he like turned back. Just smiled kind of weirdly. That was when they asked if he was responsible for Trump going to prison. Yes. For Trump's guilty conviction at prison. And then he just like, and everyone's like, okay, this dude is like, either he's evil, and he was turning and giving that smile like, yes, it's me. Or his brain doesn't work and he's just like, and he doesn't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:11:12 It's not good. I think this is the leadership of our country right now. I mean, we're talking about a guy when you ask him, well, what do you think about the issue at the southern border? And his response is he likes vanilla ice cream. I mean, that's a huge problem. The cognitive decline of this president is on full display. I mean, 2020 was bad enough i mean it's cognitive decline was already there but i mean in the last four years it's got so much worse and we have you know like that of biden with being led off the stage by obama is the perfect analogy for what this administration has been it's obama's
Starting point is 00:11:40 third term biden you know the lights are off. Nobody's home. The people behind, let's face it, other people around this administration, this guy doesn't know what world he lives in. And that's what the rest of the world sees. That's why we're not being taken seriously on a national stage. That's why, you know, at the G7 summit, that's the other one I was thinking of, he wanders off the stage at G7. They're having this little photo op and he's wandering off. Oh, they were outside at a skydiving demonstration yeah that's right he turns around and starts walking away when they're doing a photo shoot and then what happens the media runs out uh no no he was greeting some other veterans it's like
Starting point is 00:12:13 he's in the middle of a like a like a photo op with all these other world leaders he's clearly breaking protocol the prime minister of italy went to go get him like not good thank you for that i guess guess, Italy. But rough all around. I honestly, I kind of wonder how much people really do care at this point, because I kind of just feel like there's no country. You know, I hate to say it because it sounds, I don't know if it's blackpilled or whatever, but how many times can you point out the president's brain doesn't work?
Starting point is 00:12:40 Many people have been saying for years, he's a puppet. We can get Bernie's president. And I'm like guy if that's the case and trump's being charged with crimes that don't exist and we got this one video this one story a j6er has been in pre-trial detention for 1200 days i'm like i don't think we have a functioning country at all. It's just not there. Yeah, and the Libertarians just nominated a furry, so that's not great. Well, he's not actually a furry, is he?
Starting point is 00:13:14 He had, like, the dog mask thing in one of his pictures. No. Yeah, the same one as the general who had the dog mask. Yeah, just picture Chase Oliver with that on. Chase Oliver wearing a dog mask. Uh-huh. That's a, wow. Unless it was, like, fake, but it looked real to me.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I think part of the issue with the libertarians. Yeah, right. Like, thanks. I think part of the issue is that the Democrats are successfully trying to pivot from a figurehead presidency. They're trying to sort of say, like, oh, Biden, he's you guys are mean to him. You know, he does everything right all the time. But you know what? If you elect Trump, he's going to take every right away from you. He's going to lock you guys all up. It's all awful. Like they have successfully tried to steer the ship in such a fear mongering path that
Starting point is 00:13:52 it's actually it doesn't matter who's president because it just can't be Trump. And that is sort of problematic for voters because Biden's not actually popular with his own party anymore. Here we go. You ready for this one? CBS Austin. White House claims recent viral videos of Biden are actually deep fakes. And Karine Jean-Pierre actually invented a new word I had never heard before.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Cheap fakes. I was trying to make out what she said. I still don't know that's exactly what she said. But according to the Daily Beast, she said the word cheap fake. Well, here you go. Ironically, several recent cheap fakes actually attack the president for thanking troops, for thanking troops. That is what they're attacking the president for. Both in Normandy, this happened and again in Italy. And I think that it tells you everything that we need to know about how how desperate how desperate Republicans are here.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And instead of talking about the president's performance in office, and what I mean by that is his legislative wins, what he's been able to do for the American people across the country, we're seeing these deep fakes, these manipulated videos. And it is, again, done in bad faith. So Charlie Kirk posted, Unbelievable Kareem Jean-Pierre is blaming deep fakes for all the videos going around exposing how old, feeble and senile Joe Biden looks anytime he steps out in public. This sums up the White House calm strategy in one video.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Don't believe your lying eyes. I called this. I said I'm not saying I'm the only one who called. I was just saying the AI conversation is going to turn into a tool to deny bad press. And Democrat default libs are going to believe it. And this is why they do it. These people are evil. They are liars. I cannot understand what goes through a person like Karine Jean-Pierre's head when she steps out there and just lies through her teeth, then accuses everyone else of lying.
Starting point is 00:15:44 We can all watch these videos over and over and over again. We're like, these things add up. And now she's saying they're deep fakes. Oh, I also want to shout out when she mentioned that she had in Normandy and with the G7 in Italy, calling those deep fakes where he was trying to thank the troops. It's like she didn't mention what the subject of those videos actually was it was not a deep fake when biden squatted on the stage and some people believed that he was having a boom boom you know what i mean and that that's unfortunate if that's the case we don't know for sure
Starting point is 00:16:16 but they're calling it a deep fake that i'm sorry that actually says to me that i think it's probably more likely to be true that they're eggs biden pooped his pants and he's seen alan wandering off because they're calling them deep fakes they're they're you know the bigger the story the bigger lie they're really hamming this up yeah the the clips that i saw of all of these things originated in mainstream media yeah it looked like news coverage right it was a clip like with the embassy nbc news uh banner going around the bottom. It's with, you know, whatever CNN logo. Unless you're saying someone, like I watched one on an MSNBC morning show. So unless you're telling me somebody let the MSNBC morning shows watch a fake version of this, I think you are just lying to yourselves. I think you are lying through your teeth and hoping that your narrative is the one
Starting point is 00:17:02 that ultimately is promoted by the press, which who, by the way, also shared these videos of Biden speaking in this raspy, slurred voice, looking lost. Like, it doesn't make any sense. And yet she's just expecting, I guess, their allies in the media to back her up. But I mean, you were just criticizing the general age, Aiden. Are you going to you're voting for Trump? I genuinely don't know what I'm going to do. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:17:23 I have never voted for trump um i'm i was hoping that we were gonna get dave smith or josh smith or any of the libertarian smiths there are quite a few of them actually yeah and we got now we have we have 81 year old joe biden we have 78 year old trump and we have 30 40 something year old chase oliver who wears furry dog puppy play masks. Is that for real? I'm at this point, I'm going to vote for the Constitution Party. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Just out of protest. I don't think he was wearing a dog mask. What percentage of voters do you think? It wasn't the full furry dog mask. It was the kink dog mask. Yeah, I know. I get that. But I've never seen a photo of Chase Oliver wearing the kink mask.
Starting point is 00:18:02 It was being shared in libertarian circles. Wow. Yeah. I don't know, man. Maybe, like I said, maybe it's fake, but it did not look good. I mean, I've watched the guy talk. It's just there's nothing there. He's going to come out and say, that's a cheap fake.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yeah. Corrine, back him up. You got no choice. You got to vote for Trump now. I want to. I mean, you know, I was, I was, the purpose of voting for a president is for two big reasons law enforcement and military foreign policy so you vote for joe biden what do you get war yeah you vote for trump well when trump was president the first time around he was actually withdrawing
Starting point is 00:18:38 our troops and trying to bring peace whether he was successful or not some people have opinions about the abraham accords like dave smith and i disagree on that but he was successful or not, some people have opinions about the Abraham Accords, like Dave Smith, and I disagree on that, but he was bringing peace. Crossing the demilitarized zone into North Korea was one of the most significant moves made by a U.S. president in my lifetime, maybe even in history. I know there's no Korean War 200 years ago, but a president walking into enemy territory and shaking the hands with the enemy leader trying to get a peace agreement is massive. You vote for Joe Biden, you get war to be fair you vote for chase oliver i do not believe chase chase oliver will start wars yeah that's that's the difficulty it's like i really hate the optics on this guy but i don't think he's gonna do any foreign policy no-nos
Starting point is 00:19:19 his domestic policy is i like his economics i don't necessarily like some of his his social stuff um oliver yeah i don't i don't even like his economics. I don't necessarily like some of his social stuff. Oliver? Yeah. I don't even like his economic stuff. He's pro-vaccine mandate. Yeah, but that's not economic. I mean, like, businesses shutting down, firing people who've had careers for 10 years.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I see what you're saying. Yeah, that's not great. Mandate subsidized by the government? I don't understand any of this. And I always got to stress this because immediately libertarians come out and they go, he is not for mandates. He does not believe the government should be allowed to. Almost all of the vaccine mandates were private.
Starting point is 00:19:49 We're private businesses that were saying we've hereby just arbitrarily decided out of our hundred thousand employees, we're going to force them to undergo medical treatment or they get fired. Yeah. So that's the Libertarian Party for you. Trump kept saying it shouldn't be allowed. It's your choice. I at least can accept that. But I don't I don't I don't know how you could not vote for Trump. I personally really liked the discussion that was going around. It was being led by the Mises
Starting point is 00:20:12 caucus of basically taking the Libertarian Party and saying, hey, you want our three to five percent of the vote that you never get. Three to five percent, three to five historically, you know, recently, the last four elections but you know that my point is like they had a deal it was basically you get our votes you'll probably win the election no matter what but we want something in return and the more like traditional libertarian side was like absolutely not as if we were going to win anything on our own ever yeah we weren't you ever think of yourself as a libertarian i I mean, I have a lot of libertarian-leaning policies. I worked with the Tea Party movement for many years, and that stems from libertarianism in a way.
Starting point is 00:20:50 You know, like Ron Paul, Rand Paul were big champions of the Tea Party movement, and that's how I got my start helping people like them and Alex Mooney and Mike Lee and others get elected. And I do have a lot of libertarian views. I want government out of my life and out of the way. And, you know, like West Virginia, you know, you think of coal country, right? War on coal. That's government interference that took a very prosperous state and turned it into one of the least economically ranked states in the country. We're at the bottom of every measure you can think of now because of that government interference.
Starting point is 00:21:18 So, yeah, a lot of West Virginians fighting back against that are libertarian in nature. We want government out of our lives. Yeah. So Joe Jorgensen in 2020 got 1.2 percent. Yeah, that might have been worse than I thought it was. back against that are libertarian in nature we want government out of our lives yeah so uh joe jorgensen in 2020 got 1.2 percent yeah that uh that might have been worse than i thought it was yeah dude we were at 13 in the polls with johnson at one point and then and then he made the best foreign policy claim of all time and everybody said well absolutely not that's actually a good point you made before the show what is aleppoppo? And, you know, you were like, that's actually the correct position. I actually agree. Like, you know, I was always saying that if if it were important. And that would be the deflection. You don't got to address what it is. You don't got to say
Starting point is 00:22:08 anything about it. Johnson goes, and what is Aleppo? And if you think about it, it is bad. President's supposed to be in charge of foreign policy. But it's funny when you think about it, we'd be better for the president who didn't know what was going on at all, because it would imply we ain't doing anything there. Instead, we get a president who's like, what was going on at all because it would imply we ain't doing anything there instead we get a president we get a president who's like let's secretly put troops brock obama when did when did we declare war in syria does anybody remember when the declaration happened and the troop troops were ordered to syria obama because they're there and said to himself i think i should send troops there and he said to himself that's a great idea sir and that's what happened and what are they doing oil donald trump Trump, man, I love this guy, Trump. He's in office and it was so much fun when he comes
Starting point is 00:22:50 out that famous moment in front of the helicopter and he's like, we're selling weapons to the Saudis. It's fantastic. We'll be great for our economy. And all of the anti-war leftists were just like, oh, my God, he just came out and said it. He just admitted that's what we do we sell weapons to these countries and bolster our economy and then he mentioned we're trying to get our troops out of Syria we're going to leave a couple hundred in to guard the oil I was like wow I kind of feel like
Starting point is 00:23:17 he was giving a middle finger to the deep state by doing those things just at blurting it out that's also how you know aliens aren't real because that dude would have just told you he would have been like oh yeah there's aliens that was like that was a conversation we were having on uh inverted world last night uh yeah last night was about aliens and the whole like are they are they among us already thing and it's just like if if they were i feel like we would know it by now it's just you saw that harvard study yeah and i i listen i'm
Starting point is 00:23:44 not against it i like the idea i mean i have a bigfoot series like i don't necessarily believe in bigfoot but like i'm i'm open to it but you know that was seeing that like the the way the government handled the alien thing was so different from how they've handled every actual disclosure of anything ever they were like oh yeah uh everybody come on media everybody come here we're gonna have a big hearing we're gonna have a big hearing. We're gonna have a really big hearing and tell everybody everything.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And I think with the government, considering how much closed door shit happens, like it's just not, it doesn't make sense. I can't get there. Harvard put out that study where they said
Starting point is 00:24:17 maybe they're fairies. You saw that? Oh yeah. No joke. I'm not, I'm being dead serious. A Harvard paper or whatever,
Starting point is 00:24:24 I don't even call it a study, said that they believe that aliens could be fairies and elves. That's very open-minded of them. It was a little too open-minded. They're thinking outside the box. I love that creativity. I think they called them crypto-terrestrials at one point. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I've heard that West Virginia has the most cryptics in the nation. Cryptid creatures. Cryptids. Sorry, I'm fired. You got Flatwoods Monster. You got Mothman. Snailygaster. Yeah. Sna've heard that West Virginia has the most cryptics in the nation. Cryptic creatures. Cryptids. Cryptids, yeah. Sorry, I'm fired. You got Flatwoods Monster. You got Mothman. Snailegaster. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Snailegaster. You got the, oh, man, I'm forgetting them. Don't you have Sheep Squatch? I think so. I think that is West Virginia. Mothman, of course. And you're talking about Bigfoot. The Bigfoot Festival is actually coming up down in Sutton, West Virginia.
Starting point is 00:25:01 So that's actually coming up. What's that? The Grafton Monster. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Anybody who plays Fallout 76 knows all about all the West Virginia crypt So that's actually coming up. What's that? The Grafton Monster. Oh yeah. Anybody who plays Fallout 76 knows all about all the West Virginia cryptids because they're all in the game.
Starting point is 00:25:09 But these are all actually based on actual monsters which I have no idea why West Virginia has so many. But it has a lot. Can you answer this for us as a native? No, I'm not really sure. But this is just something you grew up with. These folklore stories and the older generations just love telling stories.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And I guess I wouldn't assume a lot of them are based off similar characters. It's kind of like that thing you whisper in the ear and it spreads across the classroom when you're a kid and it changes by the time it gets to the end. I think it's how a lot of these characters were created is from storytelling and stuff. Treasured regional culture, I guess. What I think it is is that West Virginia is very mountainous. The reason it wasn't heavily settled, despite being east coast, was because of the Appalachian Mountains. And so you don't get a lot of people there.
Starting point is 00:25:53 It makes it easier for stories to emerge. So a guy, he's walking through the woods, and he sees a gigantic sheep or a goat in a box or something. And then he goes and tells his friends, like, I swear it was standing on its legs, and it was a goat. And it, you know, bucks or something. And then he goes and tells his friends, like, I swear it was standing on its legs and it was a sheep. And they're like, like Sasquatch, but a sheep? Yeah, sheep-squatch. And there's no, there's like, there's less people around, so it becomes a tall tale. Yeah. In big cities, everybody talks to each other and it just goes on the internet.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And then everybody just says, you know, debunk, nothing happened. Or someone tries to explain it away. You get more fun when you live out in the middle of nowhere. I wouldn't be surprised if it's also part of the Irish, the Scotch-Irish heritage here, because a lot of that culture has sort of a mythical creature element, and especially the folklore telling. You know, parables or all of these stories are often used to teach people lessons, and so there's a level of, like, crossover culture. You have a community that's like, we've got to be able to reference something. And also we believe that in these, you know, these other things, it's an interesting potential consequence of regional immigration. Maybe they're all just elves.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Harvard thinks. So that's where your money's going. That's the whole fairies and elves thing that they're doing. That's because there is this wide classification of that in entirely continental folklore. But that's one of the cool things, what you were saying, the Irish and Scott stuff. They brought all their fairies over. And because of the way their culture was set up with the clans and the tribes, they actually felt a close connection to a lot of the Native American tribes they ran into out here. So they would intermarry a lot, they would trade. And
Starting point is 00:27:17 what happened in a lot of cases was you got these stories where you'd have the fairy stories from the Irish and the Scots. And then you'd have these stories of things like the Wendigo and the Tsul Kalu and stuff like that, that the Cherokee and the Algonquin had. And these things then morph and turn into even more things. And then as you get the communities going out, they come up with all sorts of different crazy stuff. This is the thing that I think is so important about regional culture in America. Like you would need to be here from here and grow up with this to really be able to appreciate
Starting point is 00:27:44 it. And we just create this like homogenous online culture where everyone just moves from one big city to the other. Like you'll, you will lose this stuff. No, he's absolutely right. You know, like Cherokee is a predominant part of West Virginia culture as well, because every one of us are like, you know, I'm sixth generation West Virginian. If you have been here that amount of time or longer, there's a chance you have Cherokee blood in you as well, as long with like, you know, Scottish American or Irish or something like that. So to his point, he's spot on. Most people in West Virginia have at least one of those three in
Starting point is 00:28:11 their ancestry. Let's jump to the other big news of the day from scnr.com. And for the life of me, I don't understand why no one is talking about this. The Senate has released their summary of the National Defense Authorization Act, which would require women to register for the draft. This is big. OK, the House has already passed the National Defense Authorization Act. The Senate is now putting theirs forward, which includes requiring women to register for the draft. National Defense Authorization Act would require women to register for selective service. Rep Roy responded to the news, writing, quote, You can go straight to hell over my dead body. The U.S. Senate Armed Service Committee version of the NDAA for fiscal year 2025 would automatically
Starting point is 00:28:59 register women for the draft. Heck, they don't even got to do it. They're forced to do it. The committee approved the bill with a vote of 22 to 3. The strengthening the joint force and defense workforce section of the NDAA says the military selective service act would be amended to require the registration of women for selective service. Since 1917, when the selective service was created, all men ages 18 to 25 have been required to register. However, there has not been a draft since the Vietnam War.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Must Read Alaska reports, in 2017, Congress created a commission to study the matter of adding women to the draft. The commission's final report required by the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act recommended that women be drafted. This is a necessary and fair step making it possible to draw on the talent of a unified nation in a time of national emergency,
Starting point is 00:29:43 the 11 commissioners wrote in their final report. The effort has failed in previous years, versions of the NDA, but this year it looks like it may pass. Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island, a Democrat, has been one of the biggest advocates of adding women to the Selective Service. Republicans, including Rep. Chip Roy of Texas and Senator Mike Lee of Utah, have been pushing back forcefully. I'm with Democrats on this one.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I am 100% with with Democrats on this one. I am 100% with the Democrats on this one. I don't understand why Republicans think it's okay that women get civic privileges without civic responsibilities. And so, so long as we have a 19th Amendment, women must be drafted. And I will add, drafting doesn't mean combat. Doesn't mean you put the women on the front line. They can do tons of different jobs. Like janitor. Or chef. PR.
Starting point is 00:30:32 PR officers. They can do daycare. Right? They can do all of these jobs. And not fight. I think women going to combat would be a terrible idea. And I think they're, you know, potentially, yeah, in wartime, maybe you need more bodies to do sort of administrative stuff at home. But generally, I think drafts are for boys.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And I think it's a bad idea to mix women in because they'll just end up competing for the right to be in combat. And that's a bad idea because it risks everyone's life. Telling women that they have to, like, machine parts for tools does not mean the debate. Like, I don't I don't I don't like these arguments where people say if X, then you are guaranteed to get women in combat. Like when we say women should be required to engage in some kind of civic service in the time of national emergency. Whether you want to have a debate over combat is still an entirely separate conversation. And if women want the right to vote, then they are going to war. And that means making making guns in factories.
Starting point is 00:31:36 That means driving transport vehicles, transporting domestically, maybe delivering cargo. Men can go and fight and women can drive trucks, transporting weapons and munitions to military bases domestically. I'd be happy to do all of that and I'd be happy to draft women to do it, but I don't think it should be the military because I don't think afterwards they should be able to qualify for the GI benefits. Like if you went to war, if you have seen combat, I think you should be treated differently than someone that we intentionally said you have to do it, but you get to stay in a factory. Like, that's a totally different thing. I'm happy to set up like a civic service corps for women that they have to be drafted into,
Starting point is 00:32:10 but I don't think that they should be in the military because, again, the military comes with benefits. There's also a lot of, there is a lot of just inherent danger to women beyond what is dangerous to men in the military, the kinds of things that they have to deal with as threats. I mean, there's certain types of assault that men typically are not subject to. There are, you know, the fact that people might go out of their way a little bit more to save a woman than a man. There's a number of reasons that this could be risky.
Starting point is 00:32:34 I actually really like the idea of a civil service corps. Going back to Starship Troopers, you know, everybody memes on the movie, but the book is serious. And I think that the idea of citizenship and service is a good point. That said, I do worry that if we have a draft for women, part of the reason we were so successful in World War II is that women were able to fill the roles that men
Starting point is 00:32:53 typically had back home while the men were over fighting. And I would worry that if we drafted them directly into the military, we wouldn't have the workforce we need. I'm going to give a shout out to Josie, the Redhead Libertarian, who said, here are the names of the sluts for war who want to conscript your daughters for World War III because they know your sons won't be enough to satisfy their blood lusts. Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Tell us how you really feel, Josie. Nope, I'm still with Democrats on this one. You, I do, I reject the notion that there are second class citizens in this country. Men should not be forced to die for other people who don't have the same responsibilities. I reject it, I write. Now, that being said, if you want to negotiate rights and privileges
Starting point is 00:33:34 and how civic duty operates, then we can have that conversation. I reject Maisie Hirono and Kristen Gillibrand and Jean Shaheen, who I'm assuming is a woman, they have no right to vote for war if they're not subject to it. So my position is so long as we have a 19th Amendment and we have female politicians who can vote on when I have to die, I say, so do they. Now, unfortunately, and let's be real, all of the members of Congress are too old to be drafted. So even the men are voting for young men to go and die for them. And I think that's wrong. And I love that back in the early 1900s, there was like an attempted amendment that said,
Starting point is 00:34:21 if you vote in favor of war, you volunteer for it automatically. I like that. That's what I want to see. I want see this how about we say this okay no women for the draft compromise no one for the draft but any politician who votes for any kind of war provision has volunteered for it yeah in ancient rome senators led armies you know hell in the medieval period bishops led armies and these guys are sitting back in dc in a nice air conditioned office while there's a bunch of guys my age and younger going and getting shot at in the Middle East, in the desert. I like the idea of forcing them to go. When was the last time Congress voted on war, though? Like, that becomes—if you have that amendment, it's not that we shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I would be interested in it. But, theoretically, they're all just going to be like, okay, we'll never vote for war again. Obama, send us in. Don't say anything. Right. And that's why I'm saying right now, the funny thing is you have Republicans arguing. Oh, this is so annoying. When the suffrage movement happened, there was a massive movement against it because women did not want civic responsibility like fire brigade and military service. And so they said, no way, dude. And so the compromise was spineless, weak men decided to grant privileges to women and create and push men into a second class citizen status where they have to fight and die for people
Starting point is 00:35:36 who can vote for them to go fight and die. I don't care if you're a man or woman. I don't care if it's based on gender lines or any other lines. The idea that one group of people gets to vote for the other group to go fight and die, I think is wrong. And so whether it's the rich and the poor or men and women, I reject that. And this is the problem we've always had first in the country is that the poor people are used as cannon fodder. Rich people, if their kids got drafted, they would pay to get someone else to go do it. I don't like that as well. But to be fair, at least it's like a free market thing going on. You know, some rich dude says, you go take my son's place. I'll give you a ton of money.
Starting point is 00:36:08 And they could say no. And they just say yes, because they want the money. So it sucks. But it's not as coercive. You're offering someone something in exchange with this and women's suffrage. They basically said all women can now vote to go send men to die on their behalf. OK, now hold on. Men used to choose to go fight wars on behalf of the women they cared about, their children, their families.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Now you've got crackpot psychopath, just sociopath individuals in Congress and men and women alike voting to send people to go die for what? Ukraine for war, for oil in Syria? So what's pissing me off right now is Republicans being like, we will not allow our daughters to be drafted. But they will get all of the rights. They will get all of the privileges. And they have no responsibility. Except taxes, I guess. I'm like, nah.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Like, you want equality? You get equality. Right now, it's going to be really weird, too, because a bunch of, like like gen z women are probably going to be on the republican side on this one you know yeah well you see all the memes that come up where it's like you know women required to be in draft and women and they're all it's like feminists and they're all making sandwiches or whatever like i don't think women always think through the things that they're asking for in terms of legislation. I think that this idea that they, you know, they already have the option to go into the military. They already have the option to try and be a part of civil service. Mostly what's happening is they're saying,
Starting point is 00:37:35 well, we want to be allowed to, but we don't actually feel any obligation to contribute to these communities. There was a poll done a couple of years ago in 2021 that found the majority of Democrats and 18 to 39 year olds were in favor of women being drafted. So this may be a hot take, but I just don't think there should be any draft at all. Ever, unless it's like we're being attacked. I'm sorry, but if if we need to go over there, we don't we don't we never need to go over there. We can stay here. That is an option. We have the greatest air force in the world. We also have the second greatest air force in the world. It's in our Navy. We don't need to go anywhere. We can stay here. We do not need a draft. We have an all volunteer army. If we have that, I don't see any reason to have a draft. If
Starting point is 00:38:19 we get attacked, if Russia or China come here, sure. But that's why we need a draft. So the issue of whether we need a draft is unrelated to the fact that we have corrupt government officials that would exploit a draft to go send people to die so they could, I don't know, build more weapons and secure oil so they can expand their businesses or something like that. We should be focusing on securing our borders, bringing jobs back here, having strong community, building families. Instead, you get the Democrats. And it's really obvious why they want to draft women. World War Three is a coming baby. Ukraine is spiraling out of control. Russia seems to be winning. Now Russia's offering up a ceasefire because they've secured the Donbass.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And then you've got the you know, the Red Sea is lighting up. Iran is on the verge of lighting up China and Taiwan. And the Democrats have plans to go to war. Trump and the MAGA Republicans, the, you know, whatever, the populist right wing don't want to go to war. So they're like, we don't need this. We don't. But I will just point out, we cannot, you cannot,
Starting point is 00:39:17 you just, you can't have a society where you create classes of privileges and rights. It doesn't work. It's going to break down. You cannot have social services and open borders. You cannot tell people you can come here and get free stuff. And the people who were born here, who have paid into the taxes their whole lives and their family did, will now not have access to the housing market. These things do not work.
Starting point is 00:39:39 There has to be balance in your responsibility and the rights and privileges you have access to. I think part of it is that people look at men and women as interchangeable. They're like a body to body. Just put it in uniform and it's the same thing. So I would imagine that these Democrats are looking at the numbers. I'm willing to bet that when they look at combat numbers and women, female infantry, I will I would bet a large sum of money that a strategist comes in and says, when you get a group of men, you will see like, here's how here's, here's, if we've got 30 enemy combatants in this area, you will need X amount of men with this machinery to effectively control and pacify that area. With women,
Starting point is 00:40:27 you're going to need X cubed or something like that. You're going to need X times X. You will need substantially more men. The efficiency of female units of comparable numbers will be minus 30 percent. And the response from Democrats is so we need more women than right. Sending wave after wave of your own men into combat to get the job done. More cannon fodder gets the job done. They don't care about the human lives behind it. All they know is, look, 100 men get the job done or 150 women. OK, get more women. That's it. Load it up. And they're complaining about this recruitment shortfall is the reason why they need to do it. Hey, look, man. I think this is the fastest way
Starting point is 00:41:06 to get Gen Z voting Republican. I don't see how Gen Z women can stand by the Democratic Party, but apparently Democrats love women in the draft. I do think if Trump hammers this, like, it's over for Biden because the only people
Starting point is 00:41:20 affected by this are Gen Z. Literally nobody else is affected by a draft right now. Well, Gen Z women. But men too. But they're already screwed. Exactly, yeah. But I think a lot of... If you came in and you were like, hey, let's just get rid of it entirely or let's restrict it to we have to
Starting point is 00:41:34 be under attack here at home, I think you'd get all the Gen Z men too. Gen Z male feminists being like, but I'm fighting for your right to be drafted. Come on, this is for you. That's going to be Harry Sisson all over. Harry and Chris, they're going to be like, no, you guys don't understand. It's going to be great. You're going to get all sorts of college benefits and stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And die. And they're going to be like, you're going to learn how to use guns, which we want to ban. It's like, okay. Yeah, you get college benefits by force. I would love to see both of those two drafted. That would be very funny. Harry's 21. He's first in line. He's not literally, I think they go back 18-year-olds first, but he's like right up there.
Starting point is 00:42:08 And, you know, look, if Trump wins right now, Harry's good. If Harry is successful and Biden wins, I mean, it's what is it, 18 to 26, I think? 25. Are you sure it's 25? That's what it said on the article. I know, I think that might be wrong. It's 26 now. Damn it, I'm on the article. I know. I think that might be wrong. It's 26 now. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:42:25 I'm in the range. Right. And so that means if Biden wins another term and war really does break out and the draft's coming, oh, Harry's on the front line. And I mean it. Now, he'll get protection. He'll get special protection. But they will absolutely force him onto the front lines. No question.
Starting point is 00:42:42 It's going to be like I described like Edge of Tomorrow with Tom Cruise. He's going to be like, but I'm just like a social media influencer guy. And they're gonna be like, yup. And we need you to sell this. We need young people to not flee to other countries, to not dress up like women. Well, that doesn't work anymore. Now they're saying, if you are a trans woman, you are still male and you are still required to be signed up for the, signed up for the draft thing. Yeah. And it's funny. And they said, if you were a male and you are still required to be signed up for the draft. Yeah, and it's funny. And they said if you are a female who is transgender and you are a trans man, you are still ineligible for the draft. Interesting. Yeah, Miller doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:43:13 They're just like, dude, if you're a dude, you're in. We don't care what you think you are. Is there any person born female who transitions to being male who is lobbying to be in the draft? I would love to see that. There probably are a few of them. It's all Democrats that are to be in the draft. I would love to see that. There probably are a few of them. It's all Democrats that are supporting women in the draft. Well, women have to support women, you know, right into the draft. There are a bunch of trans men who are in the military.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Like, it happens. And the military actually offers, I'm pretty sure this was a big controversy. They cover a ton of gender transition stuff. So they're all about it. I don't know, man. Look, we got this fractured fragmented society i can't i can't call it a country anymore so i don't even know what's going on i i know if it comes to it i'm joining the air force like if if we if world war three kicks off
Starting point is 00:43:56 i'm joining the air force i'm going for a pr role i do not want to be fighting in europe for people who would not fight for me here air force Force, dude. Space Force. Yeah, Space Force. Because then you're going to be in one of the domestic military bases looking at computer screens. Granted. Just hang out in Colorado. Granted. For the Air Force, a lot of the drone operators, it's all remote anyway.
Starting point is 00:44:18 It's the cushiest basic training. It's the cushiest salaries. I'll take it. How old are you? I'm 26. Ah, you're fine. Yeah, if it comes in the next six months, I'm screwed. That's right. You better just cross your fingers Trump wins. Yeah, you're making this a hard bargain for me. Now I'm voting for my
Starting point is 00:44:34 life. If this passes, I'm telling you right now, the next president is going to matter even more so with Russia and Cuba again. With everything that's been destabilized around the world with the weak leadership in this Oval Office and a actually part of the uniparty that's warmongers to begin with, this is going to matter to women of military age at that point. This is going to matter to women who want to get married, want to settle down, become
Starting point is 00:44:56 a mother, who are now potentially going to have that ripped away from them from a Uniparty who wants to go to war for profit. And this is going to be a huge red wave for Trump in November to undo this. This is exactly what's going to happen. That's my prediction. If this passes, Trump wins. Instead of winning, he'll win the popular vote. Not only will he win the electoral college,
Starting point is 00:45:13 he'll win the popular vote by several million votes if this passes because Gen Z women are going to go to college or want to get married or want to become mothers. They're not going to go to war. Oh, is it going to pass? I do not see how this doesn't pass. I don't know. Manchin, maybe? Well, didn. Oh, is it going to pass? I do not see how this doesn't pass. I don't know. Manchin, maybe?
Starting point is 00:45:27 Well, didn't he vote for it in the committee? What, really? I thought he did. Oh, you're right. He did vote for it. He did. He did. But you know who we might get is Fetterman, because that man is a loose cannon at this
Starting point is 00:45:39 point. No one can predict what he's about to do. No way, dude. He's for it 100%. He's going to be like, Israel needs our support. That's true. Yep. Ladies, Israel needs to support. That's true. Yep. Ladies, ladies, line up!
Starting point is 00:45:48 I think the other problem, though, is like we're going to draft basically anyone who has a potential to save our declining fertility rate, right? Like, we're going to be like we could grow the population, but we could also blow them up. So maybe that's a good idea. Like, I don't understand what the long-term
Starting point is 00:46:03 thinking on this is at all. You can't just keep being like but feminism this is going to force the narrative are we are we not biologically different this is going to force that narrative the feminists that have been trying to you know carve out women's rights for all these years are now being faced by being canceled as women you know rather be sports are now being forced into the military this is going to force the argument are are we biologically different? Not far as rights, but far as biology. And this is going to force that fight. This is going to force them to answer because he just said that they're already saying, if you're born a dude, sorry, you can't identify as a woman in the military, you're still a dude. So I mean, it's already forcing that narrative to come to light.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And at the end of the day, I think common sense is going to prevail. And it's gonna be a red wave for Trump. And I think we're winning our friend over over here because I'm sorry. You know, when you make it about whether I live or die. Yeah, I get it. Now, hold on. Hold on. I just understand the draft doesn't stop at 26. Oh, yeah. It's just you're you're first in line. So the way it would work is they're going to go for the 18 year olds and it's going to be I think how they do it is like a lottery. They'll they'll they'll go by social security number and pull random numbers. Right. And then they go up in age by requirement. So getting
Starting point is 00:47:10 to 26 would be really crazy. I mean, if World War III happened, okay, but here's the good news. If you turn 27 and Biden is still president, oh, dude, line up. 27 is not far off from the rest of them. So if they go through the standard batch,
Starting point is 00:47:26 and I got bad news for you, fertility rates are down, so there's not nearly as many Gen Z available as there were, say, Millennials or Boomers or Gen X. And we're hilariously out of shape. Oh, yeah, yeah, but that doesn't matter. They're going to be like, dude, let me tell you, it was really amazing. The story of the fall of the samurai in Japan,
Starting point is 00:47:43 are you familiar with it? Yep. That's exactly why they don't care if you're in shape. For those that aren't familiar, there used to be, societies used to have a warrior class that were extremely politically powerful.
Starting point is 00:47:52 And in Japan, you had samurai. You're born, you are trained, you're a fighter. It's really difficult for someone to be a master fighter until they invented reloadable cartridges or rifles that can be reloaded rapidly with the cartridge. And so they show up. Western groups come to East Asia and say,
Starting point is 00:48:11 who cares about these guys? I can give you this. And like, what does it do? You can literally give it to a farmer and they can point it, click, and you win the war. All of a sudden, Samurai started losing all of their political power. So Gen Z, they make all these jokes on TikTok. They're like, we are so incapable of doing this. We're out of shape. We're lazy. We hate America. Oh, they don't care.
Starting point is 00:48:32 It's like the gulag for you, solitary confinement, or point this over there. I think the main reason they don't want to use the draft, though, Vietnam proved a disaster. The stories of like young men landing on the shores and firing into the air instead of at the enemy because they didn't know. They were just soft. They were cookie dough. They couldn't handle it. Some people went there and they were a little too far. And there were a lot of good dudes who knew what they were doing and wanted to be there.
Starting point is 00:48:57 That's why they need voluntary service. There's an interesting thing about coercing someone to make the choice still puts in their mind they've made this choice. But you've got to do it in the right way. Forcing someone to the draft and saying you have no choice makes them hate where they are, causes panic. So what the U.S. government likes to do is, using the Federal Reserve, controlling interest rates to spike the economy if they need to increase troop levels. So when the economy gets bad, young people join up because they need money and they're desperate. That's usually how they do it. It's not working so much these days because I don't think we have a country.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I think it's completely shattered. Government's gone rogue in every imaginable way. The president is crapping his pants on stage, I think. Yeah, I don't know. I also think people don't really, like there is a lot of anti-military sentiment in the u.s so i think there's a level of like at one point in your in america's history if you had been like buying money or this opportunity like there's something honorable about being in the military whereas now people feel like you know this is just something you do
Starting point is 00:49:58 to be the world's police first and a lot of people hate the police already i can i can comment pretty directly on it i enlisted in the National Guard when I was 19, and I got medically separated four months later for anxiety and depression disorder. Wow. And then when I got off medication two years later, I had the opportunity to rejoin. That was, I think, 2022.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And I had the Lore Lodge thing going, but it wasn't huge yet. I could have gone back, and I looked around, and I thing going, but it wasn't huge yet. I could have gone back and I looked around and I was like, I want so badly to do what my ancestors did to serve this country, to be there for my fellow man, but they're going to send me to die in a desert or they're going to send me to die in a tundra and it's going to be far away from home. You know, my family will never know what happened and what's the point.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Like, no, if you, if we get invaded, I'll sign up. I will in a heartbeat, but you know my family will never know what happened and what's the point like no if you if we get invaded i'll sign up i will in a heartbeat but you know i gotta be honest i made that point a while ago like the draft makes a lot of sense when the implication was defending this country you would go to the young men say look they're attacking us you do this or we all die i get that i don't know if I agree right now with defending some of these crackpot far left places that abuse kids and have brought in noncitizens and are releasing criminals. It's like if New York got invaded, I'd be like, wow, that sucks. foothold in the executive branch through Trump or someone who can deal with the corruption, send in federal investigators to New York to weed out the crime bosses that are running their government, I would be thrilled. I'd be happy. I do not think national divorce is a good thing. I do not think that peaceful national divorce is possible. So we must avoid that in every way imaginable and resist. And there are tons of people advocating for it.
Starting point is 00:51:47 And I'm like, that ends in civil war. So I'm curious what you guys think about this, because this is an idea I've been puttering around with for like 10 years. Instead of a national divorce, we were taught about federalism as layer cake federalism, that there are layers of government. You have your local, you have your state, you have your federal. What I was wondering is,
Starting point is 00:52:04 what do you guys think about the idea of adding another layer, taking regions that are culturally similar to one another, like the Appalachians go from Pennsylvania on down to maybe Tennessee. And then you could also do Cascadia. You could do the Rockies states. And these groups of people who are culturally rather similar would be able to have the laws that make sense for their cultural groups. And then the federal government would just be responsible for like the interstate war and diplomacy. Yeah. The problem is a diffuse government,
Starting point is 00:52:32 but the problem is people in Oregon are at odds with themselves. Yeah. Let them switch to Idaho. Well, yeah, I agree. Let the States redraw their lines. It's not like we're a country and we're not a bunch of different countries.
Starting point is 00:52:43 We're one country. We can make it work. I think the political divisions have reached critical mass. I don't see a reality where you can go to someone who's clearly like, look, man, we have probably 70 videos of Biden. His brain is broken. The things he has said and escalated throughout the years getting worse and worse and worse. And there are people who will pretend like it's not happening. You can't work in a factory together, let alone vote functionally. You've got someone who's going to be staring at a wall collapse or a fire raging. You're in a warehouse.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Big old fire bursts. And you say, help me get the fire extinguisher it's it's i need your help and they're gonna go there's no fire and you're gonna be like dude there was a massive fire we can put it out right now no there isn't i will never agree with you no matter what and then you're like okay i'm leaving i need to get out of this building because they will not help me yeah i think divisions are are really serious. And I like your idea of regional allianship on some level. I think regional management and culture like culturally more homogenous coalitions would be good. I just think that at this point, rather than adding a layer of government, why don't we see that within our elected leaders that we have already? Like what kind of partnerships do you see between regions right now?
Starting point is 00:54:06 Because it's potentially they could sort of make this happen on their own. You could have coalitions in the House. You could have governors who have a specific regional conference they attend. Like they could do this. They just opt not to right now. The idea in my mind is that it would hopefully defeat the two-party system that you would get to a point where because republicans in you know let's say the uh the republic of appalachia because those republicans aren't going to have the same priorities as republicans in uh the midwest it's not the the republican party is going to have a much more difficult time because you've
Starting point is 00:54:40 made everything a lot more personal a lot more local for example you know you guys have coal right a lot of coal we have a lot of coal we have a lot of oil a lot more personal, a lot more local. For example, you know, you guys have coal, right? A lot of coal. We have a lot of coal. We have a lot of oil, a lot of shale. We also have railroads. Who is we? Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Oh, sorry. I should have said that. In West Virginia, you guys have a whole bunch of industries that work for you. Same thing goes down the entire country. Every state tends to have something that, you know, works for them. A lot of the Appalachian states, it's the energy industry. It's oil, it's coal, it's shale. Those are the things that matter to us. But Pennsylvania can't make any movement on
Starting point is 00:55:10 fracking, on transitioning to fourth generation nuclear, on fixing our rail system, which is the most robust in the country. If we could just modernize it, we can't do any of that because the government's like, sorry, people in California decided you can't frack. Right. I agree. This is the problem with globalization. The idea that a singular entity can rule over every region uniformly doesn't make sense. California gets a disproportionate amount of votes because of illegal immigrants in the first place, but then they get extra congressional seats. They've lost one in this past census. Then they say the people of California don't like nuclear energy, so Nebraska can't have it. And it's like, why is New York, Illinois, and California, and Oregon, I guess, and Washington voting that large, sparsely populated states can't have a nuclear reactor?
Starting point is 00:55:55 I mean, I'm not saying they literally can't. I'm just saying that's the general idea. If you're in Wyoming, the population there is, what, like 500 and something thousand? They barely have a congressional seat as it is. You've got tons of empty space where you can do a bunch of awesome stuff, but they ban these things. The population there is like 500 and something thousand. They barely have a congressional seat as it is. You've got tons of empty space where you can do a bunch of awesome stuff, but they ban these things. And right, like fracking and stuff, they pass these laws controlling all of it, but they don't even live in these places. It should be left to the states, but the federal government keeps.
Starting point is 00:56:19 This is the problem with large federal government. And with fracking specifically, that's such a local problem. Like if a community says, all right, we're going to take the risk. We're going gonna try and make sure we have all the safety in place and we want to frack here there is no reason that people in shale country pa need to listen to what people in los angeles think about that the people in los angeles will never be affected by somebody fracking in carbon county pennsylvania it will never happen so why do they care i think you know i was thinking about it pennsylvania you guys got cheesesteak. Do they got cheesesteak in Western PA? Yeah, the sandwiches change a little bit.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Primanti's is kind of a, they got a different format over there. West Virginia has deep fried dandelions. What? Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I'll try it. It's pretty good. Is it good? Is it particularly, I know it exists.
Starting point is 00:57:02 It's like an old Appalachian recipe. I've never seen it. How common is it? You won't see it in any of the retail restaurants like at Permanente's, but some of your mom and pops, you can get some of your smaller towns. It's actually quite common. It's pretty good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Is it just like dough on a dandelion fried? Yep. I heard it tastes like fried mushrooms. It does? Yeah, look at that. So dandelions are actually brought here by the European colonists as food and medicine. Really?
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yep. It grows crazy fast and you can eat them. And they're all over the place. Tradition remains up in Appalachia. So, you know, you got different conventions and customs. You're from PA,
Starting point is 00:57:38 you had no idea. And of course, Chris over here has never heard of a cheesesteak. Of course I have. Oh boy. I was down in San Antonio last week for Unsubscribe podcast and they had some cheesesteaks on the menu and I was like, I'm not going anywhere near this.
Starting point is 00:57:50 That's how I feel about pizza outside of the northeast. Yeah, I don't, any, outside of 50 miles of Pennsylvania, unless it's like the person running it grew up in South Philly. No. I can respect that people in New York and the northeast think their pizza is better. Don't do this to me, Tim.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Don't do this. Don't do this, Tim. What? But Chicago. Yes. Being from Chicago, we have, and I'm respecting New York over here, and you guys can't handle it.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I would just call Chicago pizza different. Yes, it is different. However. It's special. Deep dish pizza is not real Chicago pizza. That's a lie. And you guys have not ever had real Chicago style pizza, which is a firmer, medium. It's not a thin crust.
Starting point is 00:58:31 It's thicker. It's not floppy. Okay. It's square cut. I think people call it like, what is it called? Like the four states. It's called Sicilian over here. That's not Sicilian.
Starting point is 00:58:40 No, we're not talking about Sicilian. The square cut. Is it more like what they do in St. Louis? No, Sicilian is a thick bread. Is it more like what they do in St. Louis? St. Louis is a specific style of pizza. Traditional Chicago pizza is flat. The dough doesn't rise on the ends.
Starting point is 00:58:52 The crust on the edge is crunchy, and it's cut into squares. And so it's very different from New York. But I will tell you this. I had pizza in Michigan, and it was like someone put a bathroom garbage on my plate and i was offended yeah it was like it was like a piece of toast with ragu on it don't you dare some places pizzas are different i mean this is i've talked about this before but the uh uh dominoes and pizza huts spread throughout the middle part of america because the immigrants weren't there making traditional pizza i can't i i can imagine that in you in Michigan, they do a lot of other nice stuff,
Starting point is 00:59:25 but this is not one of their elements. It reminds me, though, this stereotyping of deep dish pizza as the only type of pizza of the pepperoni roll in West Virginia. Because if you're like, what is the food of West Virginia? You see that everywhere. But there's actually a ton of stuff. It's just that's sort of what the... See, don't knock the pepperoni roll. Adrienne Curry...
Starting point is 00:59:42 But it's not the only thing. Adrienne Curry knows exactly what we're talking about. Chicago thin crust tavern style pizza is great too. Tavern style pizza. I'll give it a shot. I'll give it a shot for you. And I got to tell you, for anybody who's never been, if you go there, you got to find a place that will do a pizza with giardiniera on it.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Giardiniera. That's the word. I was, I was, it was so weird for me when I went to New York for the first time and I tried ordering a roast beef sandwich, a giardiniera. And the guy said, with what? And I said, can I get a roast beef sub with giardiniera? And he goes, he's like, we do heroes. And I'm like, I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 01:00:13 It's a long sandwich. And I'm like, oh, okay, well, give me giardiniera, roast beef and cheddar. And he's like, I don't know what that word is. And I, giardiniera, oh, man. I feel like I've heard the word, but I don't know what it is. It is like carrots, jalapenos, cauliflower in oil. Oh, OK. I've had it. I just didn't know it's what it was called. You go to pot bellies. They call it hot peppers because nobody knows what it is. How about we go back, talk about the news? Here's a story from the post-millennial Canadian study worries
Starting point is 01:00:41 about under anticipated U.S. civil war ignores growing resentment at home. The potential for civil war is mentioned in the list of eight under-anticipated disruptions that decision makers may need to consider more thoroughly than the survey results indicate. Ladies and gentlemen, foreign countries, okay, fine, it's Canada, so, you know, take it for what it is, are concerned about a U.S. civil war. If you dig deep into the subterranean internet files of the Canadian government, you might find a link to Policy Horizons Canada, a group that you might surmise is attached to Global Affairs Canada, but no, it is affiliated with the Federal Public Service. I'm going to wag my finger at David in the Postmillennial for writing a narrative story.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Just tell me the news. The posting of a recent study titled Disruptions on the Horizon might have been missed by the public had an article not been posted to Politico declaring Canada's big worry a U.S. civil war. Considering you guys are writing me a story, I'm actually going to go to Politico instead. Canada's big worry, a U.S. civil war. This is from just a few days ago. They say, and they also write a narrative. In a spring report titled Disruptions on the Horizon, a quiet office known as Policy Horizons Canada proposed American civil war as a scenario that Ottawa should consider preparing for. This hypothetical was talked into the middle of a 37-page document, which sketched the possibility in 15 spare words. U.S. ideological divisions, democratic erosion, and domestic unrest escalate, plunging the country into civil war.
Starting point is 01:02:08 You know, Canada, they must watch the show. Yeah, I was going to say, if they're saying it's if they're underprepared for it, I don't know if we've got our viewership in Canada going. I think that this is ridiculous. No, I'm saying whoever wrote this must watch it. Sure, but the post-millennial is saying they're saying it's underanticipated. I don't think that's true here on Timcast. You know, so I just want to point this out considering everyone says that i'm the guy who's always talking about civil war that means anyone else whoever talks about it is a fan of
Starting point is 01:02:31 the show that's yeah that's a fair point yeah absolutely that's the only only explanation so considering canada has this uh concern they're going to say how seriously should people take this on the other side of the 49th parallel policy arises report surveyed hundreds of experts and government officials about disruptive events that Canada might do well to prepare for. Then the authors classed those scenarios based on the likelihood they will occur. American Civil War ranked as an improbable but ultra high impact event. Other scenarios in that general category included the proliferation of homemade biological weapons, the rise of antibiotic resistant pathogens leading to mass death and food shortages, and the outbreak of World War III.
Starting point is 01:03:09 You know, I suppose when you add them all together, it's looking like you got a really good probability of bad thing happening. So take your pick, and I hope you all are prepared. I think it's weird that progressive governments and progressive political parties have to fearmonger their voters into supporting them. I think that's what I see over and over again.
Starting point is 01:03:28 I was thinking about that with some of the speeches I was listening to from Biden or, you know, on the campaign trail. And it's always just you have to vote for us because everything's about to fall apart and we are the only ones who can fix it. And it's critical. In fact, it's so critical it might even be too late. So you've got to act now. Like, it's like the craziest sales pitch of all time that is completely dependent on fear and compliance. Because they can only run on fear and compliance because they don't have any success stories to build upon. I mean, to your point, Joe Biden, what could he run on in re-election other than, you know, Trump's a threat to democracy.
Starting point is 01:03:58 You vote for me to stop him. That's all they got. He's accomplished nothing. You know, hyperinflation, the stabilization of the world, entering World War III with Russia and Cuba with their naval fleet now. There's nothing he can tout that he did other than destabilize the world and cause inflation and cause a lot of people to leave the workforce because they couldn't even afford to live anymore.
Starting point is 01:04:17 And, you know, they paid him to stay home. They paid him not to work. And then they can't afford to go back to work anymore. It's just sad to see all this going on. And he can't do anything but say, vote for me because the other guy's the boogeyman. That's all they have. Whether it be Trudeau, whether it be Biden,
Starting point is 01:04:32 it's all the radical left has. Vote for me to stop the boogeyman. Yeah. It makes you wonder when Trump is no longer eligible to run for office, like if he serves a term and runs out of terms, what will they talk about? Where's the off ramp?
Starting point is 01:04:44 That's what, you know, Phil often says, Phil Abati, he says, where's the off-ramp? Of all that remains? Of all that remains. Where's the off-ramp? With the ideological divisions happening in this country, with this election bubbling up, they're trying to put Trump in prison. Trump may very well end up in prison in only a matter of weeks. Where's the off-ramp? How does this country not devolve into at the very least starting off with
Starting point is 01:05:07 collapse of the federal government i mean if it did collapse we could just go back to state governments i guess that's i i see that here here here if if something were to happen i would imagine that the likeliest scenario come November dispute over the election, both sides claiming they won happened in 2020. Both sides claim they won and neither side will be willing to accept at any degree. I don't think people understand how wild 2020 was. I think the average person just ignored it. They watched the news and they heard Trump claiming he won and they said, I don't know what's going on. Biden won. But what they didn't see was
Starting point is 01:05:48 say like Texas v. Pennsylvania. I believe it was 48 states involved in a lawsuit to the Supreme Court over unconstitutional actions taken by Pennsylvania and several other states that went for Joe Biden. Notably, that they changed their election rules outside of the legislative body, which violates the Constitution as to how elections are held. The Supreme Court refused to acknowledge it. And what did we get? Well, I don't know. Trump supporters on January 6th. January 6th. I don't think it was the apocalypse. It was a riot. These people didn't actually plan for anything beyond walking in a building. And I don't think they even planned. I don't think they planned for walking in a building at all. Seems like most of them didn't. Yeah, they walked in a building and walked out.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Nothing happened. Politicians got scared. It was bad. There's a lot of damage. I don't like any of it. I don't see this time around a de-escalation. If something were to happen, the federal government already, we know that this guy from the DOJ goes and joins the local DA's office in New York and prosecutes Trump and is now trying to put him in prison.
Starting point is 01:06:51 I don't think people are going to tolerate this. If we get a fracturing of confidence in the federal government to a certain degree where, let's say Texas files a lawsuit again this time, which seems very likely, the Supreme Court refuses to hear it. So then Texas says we will not do this a second time. These are clear violations of the U.S. Constitution. And if the Constitution is not being upheld by the Supreme Court, then it is void. I don't know how if they get to that point immediately. I think it could take months where they're petitioning and petitioning and petitioning and saying, how many times do we have to demand that the rules are actually upheld that we agreed upon? And if you will not agree to these rules, you are telling me that you avoid the Constitution.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Yeah. So if Texas then says we are not going to cooperate with the federal authorities because they have not cooperated with us, they have broken the mutual pact. It a lot of people go, oh, national divorce. Oh, it sounds good. And then what happens when resource battles begin then what happens when one state needs access to another state's uh or there's a shared body of water or river then you start getting disruptions if that happens any kind of national divorce scenario results in a civil war in the long run. Not immediately, but in the long run. I don't see a reasonable probability that let's say Donald Trump wins. And Democrats just go, well, shucks. You got us, Trump. It was a good run. We tried
Starting point is 01:08:16 our hardest, but we hereby accept the results. Never going to happen. They didn't do that in 2016. They ain't going to do it now. The inverse is true. Joe Biden wins. Ain't going to see Trump supporters saying saying you win. So I don't know exactly what happens, but I don't think that Canada is wrong. And I do think when they say it's an improbable event, it's because too many people are scared to suggest things that seem dramatic. But I don't see an off ramp an off ramp well i mean it's you're completely right looking at the series of events and suggesting that you know it's not going to happen immediately because that's that's what happened with the revolution that's what happened the civil war i do have to say if whatever the next president is or the one after that is you know if the civil
Starting point is 01:08:59 war happens in the next eight years i'm gonna be so mad that a pennsylvanian president was responsible for both of them um but like i just i look back at the american revolution and the civil war and what led to them and it wasn't it wasn't bunker hill it wasn't lexington and concord it wasn't fort sumter it was a decade of the people of america of the colony saying hey guys can we like rule ourselves is that an option can we do that uh we we have all these problems you guys are levying taxes on us we didn't ask you to come fight the french here that wasn't our idea uh and now you're demanding we pay for your war what's going on and also you promised us land west of the appalachians what happened to that and so americans went
Starting point is 01:09:39 i'm done if you're not gonna listen i'm done that's you're not going to listen, I'm done. That's actually slightly incorrect. What happened was a year of the regulars massacring, killing Americans. Well, that too. Then they said, okay, well, they've been killing us for a year. I think we should probably tell them to screw off. Very important point I bring up 50 billion times for everybody who's ever watched the show. You've heard it already. The Declaration of Independence was signed one year and one month after the war already started. Finding fathers weren't stacking bodies because they were mad.
Starting point is 01:10:06 They were resisting every step of the way, turning this into an independent, like actually signing a Declaration of Independence. It was only after the crown was steadfast in sending troops to kill Americans and the Americans were writing letters that finally the Founding Fathers got together and said, guys, this is not going to end. We have no choice. They had blockaded Boston. New York didn't sign the Declaration of Independence because it was so controlled by the British. Yep. The funny thing, too, is depending on what you read, there's interesting stories about how some of the founding fathers, it was contested. They even had the right to represent the states that they had come from and voted for independence or signing the Declaration of Independence. People were like, you don't speak
Starting point is 01:10:47 for us. There were a lot of loyalists. There was a declaration of dependence. People don't know this. No joke. A group of loyalists wrote like a letter saying like, dude, legit, we do not want to do this. We like the crown. Where we are now, it's, yeah, I mean, what, 10 years? We've, coming off of 2008 with the financial crisis and the outrage over the big banks, the Federal Reserve, this corrupt, broken system, the mass printing of money and foreign war without declaration, the 2000s were bad. We're going on two decades of mass general grievance that has gone unanswered. Occupy Wall Street was protesting because of Obama.
Starting point is 01:11:23 No answer. Well, maybe there was, Donald Trump. Occupy Wall Street was protesting because of Obama. No answer. Well, maybe there was Donald Trump. Occupy Wall Street, end of 2011 into 2012. Obama's president and he ends up winning. People were still upset. Things did not change. The protests continued. Wars expanded. And then you get a Donald Trump with nine million Obama voters switching to the Republican Party. They destroyed Donald Trump. They cemented his feet and threw him in the ocean. They were they weighed him down so he could not do his job. They accused him of being a traitor to this country. They said he was a Russian spy. All of it fabricated. Then in 2020, Biden wins. However you want to describe how he won, I'm saying he won.
Starting point is 01:12:06 He's in the White House. Call it whatever you want. You can say Trump convinced more people. You can say whatever you want, but Biden ended up in the White House. People have tolerated it so far. I am very concerned, and I agree with the Canadians here. I think the mistake they make, too, they always do this, more than a literal concern about an 1861 style war
Starting point is 01:12:25 between the states who's anything about a war between states that doesn't make any sense what likely is going to happen is a like the federal government collapses it'll exist they'll assert authority and nobody will listen states like texas doesn't need to go to war with i don't know california or oregon they're gonna say i don't care about you local regional areas might get into conflicts though i think you'd see rural versus city more than state versus state, if anything. I agree, but I do think the cities would be occupied in two
Starting point is 01:12:52 seconds. Oh, yeah, definitely. No question. The cities would probably fall apart, actually. The first thing that would likely happen is rural areas would cease major deliveries to strong urban areas. New York is screwed. It would take nothing. It would just be a few blockades of the interstate by rural populations, and New York would starve.
Starting point is 01:13:09 And it's not even a wartime blockade. It would be like, when you've got a small town, everybody's seen a speed trap, right? That state highway that goes through a small town where the speed limit goes from 55 to 20, like that. And it's because of a small town there. They call them speed traps.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Sometimes they are. But the small town says we've got houses along this road because it was built as a supply. Like people, it's like an outpost almost. Don't speed through our town. You're going to hit our kids. Those towns put a checkpoint. A single county sheriff could slow down deliveries to New York City. A single county sheriff puts up a checkpoint in his county in a small town.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Trucks come by and he says, we are no longer getting support for these roads. If you want to drive through here, it's a fee of $50 for every truck because we got to pay this. And it's very difficult to source the materials to fix this when we're seeing trade breakdown. And the truckers say, there's no way I'm doing that. Well, do you remember how effective the, the Canadian trucker blockade was? And one of the effects was like, we are not getting our deliveries on time.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Right? So if a small town trucker was like, I'm not doing this. And a point of entry to a city was like, we are also not participating or we're blocking this off. Like it all falls apart. It's a fragile codependent system that gets, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:22 food supplies, whatever to especially major cities, but from regions across the country to these major cities. The urban populations tend to forget that they rely on the rural population for raw materials, and the rural population relies on them for finished goods. The rural population doesn't need them for finished goods. The urban population needs them for raw materials. Let's jump to this segment, which is somewhat related. This is a CNN segment. Kyle Becker tweets, CNN gets absolutely owned trying to school Trump supporters that America is a democracy and not a republic.
Starting point is 01:14:55 This is really interesting. It's a bit long, so we'll only play a little bit of it. President Biden touts his reelection campaign as a fight to preserve democracy. But if you ask some Trump supporters, the former president is not a threat to democracy because the United States is not a democracy. I'm going to pause real quick and say everybody knows this, but we are not a democracy. We are a constitutional republic with democratically elected representatives. What that means is you send someone you think will do a good job to do the job because you're not an expert. Democracy is when everybody votes on a thing. And then if they get the majority, it happens. CNN's Donio Sullivan spoke to some of those
Starting point is 01:15:29 supporters. What happens if Trump loses? I don't see him losing. I don't think he lost the last election, to be honest. Do you think he's going to win? Yes, without a doubt. No doubt. What if he doesn't this time? What happens to the country? We're in trouble. We're in big trouble. We're done. If Biden talks about democracy, you know, saving democracy, they're the ones that are killing democracy. Obviously, there's a lot of criticisms of Trump, that he is bad for democracy, that
Starting point is 01:15:58 he's bad for American democracy. We are a republic. We're a republic. We are not a democracy. We're a representative republic, but we're not a democracy. One thing we've been hearing at Trump rallies like this over the past few months is that America isn't really a democracy. America isn't really a democracy. No, no, no, no, no, no. They're not saying it's not really a democracy. They're saying it's quite literally not a democracy.
Starting point is 01:16:20 It's not a democracy. It's a republic. It's not a democracy. OK, democracy is. It's not a democracy. Okay, democracy is actually not as good as you think it is. But for centuries, America has celebrated its democracy. Democracy is worth dying for. Democracy remains the definition of political legitimacy. But some Republicans and pro-Trump media are pushing the idea that America is not a democracy. The United States of America is not a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. The United States of America is not a democracy.
Starting point is 01:16:51 You don't want to be in a democracy. We are not a democracy. He didn't read the full quote there, but a democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding on what's for lunch. A republic is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. We are a republic. Is America a democracy? America is a democracy. It was founded as a democracy.
Starting point is 01:17:09 I've heard a lot of conspiracy theories. I hear a lot of things out on the road. Has he come from the democracy of Ireland? And to the republic for which it stands. One nation. And if we want to go back to the roots of the country, one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. We had the under God later.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Yeah. But to hear Americans, people who would describe themselves as patriots, say that America is not a democracy, that stopped me in my tracks. You are hearing people say America is not a democracy because there are people around Trump who want them to be saying that, who've been planting that narrative. Is America a democracy? I hate you as a history teacher. Yeah. I think we're a republic.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Yeah, we're a republic. What's the difference? I feel like democracy... Oh, boy. It's government control. I don't see freedom in democracy. I see freedom. You don't need to do this, CNN.
Starting point is 01:18:07 There are much, much more well-informed people and finding some random Trump supporters. I get it. But you know what? A lot of people do this. They go to Times Square. They go to Democrat rallies. Yes. A republic is like you have a collection of jurisdictions that have formed a cooperative
Starting point is 01:18:22 government with each other. In this instance, you have states which have formed a federal government, which is to serve them. And that is the Republic of the United States of America. A democracy would be a single body where the people vote on things. And there can be different structures of that democracy. That's true. But there's direct democracy and democracy typically involves the will of the masses. And we do have referendums in some states. But the United States is a republic. And that's why states each get two senators to represent the state. You know what's kind of funny about it, too, is like the Athenians tried democracy.
Starting point is 01:18:55 And then the Romans looked at the Athenians and went, absolutely not. Not doing that. Doing something completely different. We're going to take the simple part of that. And then we're going to make it way more complicated and better. It took like one generation for people to realize democracy is not a good idea at the international scale. I say we repeal the 17th Amendment and eliminate popular vote for federal senators because
Starting point is 01:19:19 the original idea was your local representatives would choose who your senators are going to be that go to the federal government. And the idea was better men would be chosen. The state would be represented by people who were chosen for the job. And the argument was, I believe this was
Starting point is 01:19:40 like the beginning of the 1900s, end of the 1800s, too many people were getting their buddies in and it was corrupt, so we should turn it into a popular vote of the state. The states will vote for who they think should represent their state. That's the pointless. That's what Congress does. Congress represents the will of the people. The state's interests are the state's interests. And this severed the average voter from their local representatives. And now people seem to think that your federal congressman is going to clean up your state. Not going to happen. They might, however, get federal funding for you. Let's play a little bit more. Honestly, the word democracy and the word republic have
Starting point is 01:20:14 often been used interchangeably. There isn't a meaningful difference between them. So much of the warnings and criticism about Trump is that he is a threat to democracy, that he is anti-democratic. Absolutely. If they can convince people that we don't have a democracy, then it's okay that Trump is attacking democracy because it doesn't really matter. So why has democracy become a bad word?
Starting point is 01:20:38 Because it's being used in a way to change the flavor of our country, which is a republic. These words were used in different ways in the 18th century. And it's true. The found. Oh, man. I don't mean anything. And I make them up as I go along.
Starting point is 01:20:54 They were used interchangeably in the 18th century. That's why Benjamin Franklin went out of his way to make a point about the difference. Right. OK, great. Yeah. I'd like to give a really simple explanation of the difference between a democracy and a republic. And a republic is Rhode Island has like a city and they get two senators. California has very many and they have two senators because they are equally represented as state bodies in a republic system.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Now, a democracy would strip those senators away and you would vote purely by population. What happens in places like this, California is a great example. I love bringing this up. When I went to meet the farmers during the drought, they were not allowed to use the surface water for their crops because of democracy. Because the way the vote worked on surface water was, the millions of people who live in cities say, we vote to get the water. And the people who live in the farmland in the rural area said, we vote to keep the water. And they went, unfortunately for you, you're 10%
Starting point is 01:21:47 of the population. We are 90. Majority rules. Welcome to democracy. So they took the water away from the farmers. In a republic, California cannot outvote Rhode Island's interests. They have to go to the federal government and compromise. And it is rather difficult. They have to negotiate with other states. They have to, if we went full democracy, California, New York, and Illinois would form a compact and say, let's just cut deals with each other and we own the country. And then it doesn't matter where you live. If you're outside of those places, you don't have the population. And it would be basically major urban centers and they would be in total control of everything everyone else does.
Starting point is 01:22:25 We still have an element of that because you still have Congress. But these people, I absolutely love how evil CNN is because I know for a fact that people put together. They know they've done a Google search. They Google searches. They know what they're saying is a lie. They know they brought on someone to do an interview who is lying because they think people are stupid. They think the people who watch CNN are stupid. And unfortunately, I have to agree, people who watch CNN are stupid.
Starting point is 01:22:50 No, I agree. And, you know, for them to say, oh, this is just a narrative that Trump has planted with people around his rallies. Well, it must be amazing that Trump has a time machine. And he went back and got Ben Franklin's ear when a lady asked him when he was coming out of a meeting that what kind of government we have. And he said, a republic republic if you can keep it. So it's just amazing that Trump went back in time and changed Ben Franklin's mind as well. He is a time traveler.
Starting point is 01:23:10 If this country was founded as a democracy, first of all, that's impossible. If New York went to Georgia and said, this will be a democracy, we will vote by popular vote, they'd be like, what, You'll take our stuff from us. Absolutely not. Not going to happen. In fact, so the first attempt at government was the Confederacy, the Confederate States of America, and then, or the Articles of Confederation, I should say, not the Confederacy. That was mis-
Starting point is 01:23:36 People knew what you were saying. Right. It was the Articles of Confederation, and it didn't work. It was too weak. And so they said, we want to create a stronger federal government. And then i believe it was the anti-federalists wanted the um the bill of rights they said we want you to write down to guarantee you will not do these things to these things to us so the constitution instantly got the bill of rights of which i believe originally there were 17 uh and they narrowed it down because they were like we don't need seven of these they're just obvious within the document and then 200 years later the people did not agree with that well they they uh combined many of them and changed the language on some of them they screwed
Starting point is 01:24:13 up the second amendment miserably and the the original first article was congressional uh i believe it was congressional pay the first and second were congressional pay and apportionment well one of my favorite things about the Second Amendment is that everybody's like, oh, well, no, it means, you know, militia and the, you know, it's all, it's all very, you're not understanding. It's not the unlimited right to bear arms. Alexander Hamilton didn't even think they needed it because he thought it was so obvious, so clear in the articles describing what Congress, the president and the Supreme Court are allowed to do that they had no power to regulate firearms.
Starting point is 01:24:48 So Hamilton was like, I don't think we need this. I do not think this needs to go in there. And they ended up putting it in because they were like, well, he deserves the musical now or I see. Here's the thing. Got Second Amendment, right? Yeah, he was he was very pro gun, but at the same time, also pro-central banking. Nobody's perfect.
Starting point is 01:25:10 That's what I learned from this conversation. The original Second Amendment actually went on to say that, and the gist of it was, you can have a gun even outside of the military. But the issue was, they were concerned that it would actually stop conscription so it said something like even if someone is an objector to war they still have a right to keep and bear arms the concern was if we say the militia being required for a free state the right to keep and bear arms cannot be infringed the implication is everyone can have guns because they're going to fight in in're gonna be conscripted to
Starting point is 01:25:45 militia or military and they were like well no no no no no then we'll add even if you you know object to conscription you can still have a gun too and then they went oh but that might be used to make it so we can't conscript people in time of war take that out we're good and most people don't realize this but if you look at the map of gun rights, we had a long period of no gun rights. If you look at whether states issued permits, I mean, it wasn't until D.C. versus Heller where they said you can actually have a gun outside your house. So there were a lot of states that were may issue states. You'd apply for a gun. They'd say, no, you can't have one and then one by one over the past you
Starting point is 01:26:25 know 10 years 20 years we have seen states go constitutional uh carry so now you have all these states where it's like you can buy a gun and thanks to hunter biden and the doj we may actually see the abolition of federal background checks i am i am thrilled with this is fantastic it's gonna be so funny if that happens. You'll be a hero to the gun rights people. They will paint pictures of him. Isn't that funny
Starting point is 01:26:51 that he is potentially going to be the face of the Second Amendment movement? He doesn't even want to be there. It's so fascinating. Or maybe he does. I guess he's a gun enthusiast. Hunter Biden lied
Starting point is 01:27:00 on a federal background check form that he was not a drug addict when he bought a gun and that's what they got him on. And that violates the Constitution, because the Constitution doesn't say that you have a right to keep your arms unless you do drugs. You can have your rights curtailed through due process if they prove you're a drug addict and have convicted you of it. And also, you have the right to not self-incriminate. So the government forcing you to incriminate yourself for crimes if you want to get a gun is unconstitutional.
Starting point is 01:27:28 They are appealing Hunter's case. I hope every single gun rights organization files an amicus brief in support of Hunter Biden and says the Form 4473 is unconstitutional and must be abolished. I have some buddies at the GOA who I can talk to on Discord on the ride home. Absolutely. And then it may turn out that hunter biden has his uh criminal conviction overturned he's free to go and he should be and then no longer when you want to buy a gun do you have to fill out a federal form we'll call it the hunter biden law we'll call it hunters hunters precedent and an amazing that
Starting point is 01:28:00 someone like hunter biden joe biden's son may actually be the very thing that turns the atf from a government agency to a convenience store. I always wondered when they were presenting his defense in that case, his attorney was like, well, he did not think of himself as an addict at the time. So therefore he wasn't. Didn't identify as an addict. I wonder how many Americans have tried that defense and been told, shut up, like, go away. You're the problem. Like, why would it work for Hunter Biden?
Starting point is 01:28:25 Except for, I guess, he's special. It's the most proof positive thing I've ever seen of a two-tier justice system. Like, the man is on camera committing at least three different felonies. And they're like, ah, we can't get him. Michael Cohen admitted to grand larceny on the stand. And they were like, eh, we don't care.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Who cares? We don't want to rush around. And they were like, eh, we don't care. Who cares? We don't want to rush around. I don't consider it a two-tiered justice system. Like, is it two-tiered justice when Russia, say, like, captures an American and puts him in jail? Would we call that two-tiered justice? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:28:58 So, like, Ukraine and Russia are fighting each other when Ukraine captures a Russian and then, like, they see a Russian guy, so they're like, quick, get him. And they grab him, they tie him and then like they see a Russian guy. So they're like, quick, get him. And they grab him. They tie him up. Then they see Ukrainian guy and they go, how's it going? We don't call that two tier justice. Democrats intending to put Trump, his staffers, the people who have worked with him in prison. It's quite literally just a political faction kidnapping their political opponents in plain view of the public without real laws. I mean, Steve Bannon going to prison, what did he do? Contempt of Congress.
Starting point is 01:29:30 What was the issue? Trump said, executive privilege, don't hand over the documents. And Bannon was like, okay, well, the president's having executive privilege on executive documents. I can't hand them over. Then at the last minute, Trump said, no, you know what? Go ahead. And then Bannon went, okay, we're good now. And they went, we don't care. You're too late. You're going to prison. And they convicted him. So it's not it's not a legitimate man. This fly is really killing me. It's not two tier justice at all. It's just police officers attempting to kidnap Donald Trump and convince you it's OK. They did. Yeah. I mean, as you guys, as I said earlier, I have never intended to vote for Trump, but this is that watching this happen has been like the most terrifying thing of my adult life. The fact that they have just gone whole hog doesn't matter. You know, Hunter Biden is getting off scot free. Meanwhile, Trump is going to prison for what I believe were
Starting point is 01:30:30 actually misdemeanors that were upgraded to felonies. He may go to prison. We don't know what's going to happen, but I certainly think they'll try. You said you were going to, you're still considering casting a protest vote. I would have gone constitution party at this point. That's how far, that's how far we are. So what's big uh block to voting for trump if you know things are bad you'd rather i'll be honest some of the biggest ones are are guns um i don't like his gun positions but again trump's yeah i like his gun position uh banning bump stocks i didn't like the take the guns and try them later i didn't like what that quote the guns and try them later, I didn't like. What? That quote's not true.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Really? Yeah. Oh, all right. Well, not that one, but still, banning the bump stocks. And we fell for that, too. And then we were talking about it like a couple weeks ago, and I was like, yeah, he did say, you know, I like to ban the guns first and go to the courts later. And then we pulled up the quote, and he was actually not, he was speaking, it was pulled out of context.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Oh. It seems like he was quoting someone else. And he may have been saying something like, look, I really don't want to be the guy who says, I want to get the guns first and then go to the courts later. They're like, just clip that middle part. It was clearly pulled out of context, and we don't know what the full context was. Yeah, that's a good point.
Starting point is 01:31:34 So not that one then. But yeah, I was upset about the bump stock ban because it was just stupid. But they lost. They did, eventually, yeah. But that was Trump who led the charge on that. Yeah, I think so, right? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:31:48 If I remember correctly, he was the one who, after Vegas, was like, we gotta ban this we gotta get rid of these things because at heart he is a new yorker you know he is as new york as it gets um so i think he still does have some of that in him honestly more than anything i just don't think he's the man for the job i don't't think Biden is either, though. And that's what's difficult as a younger voter, as a more independent-leaning voter, is, like, I cannot imagine four more years of Biden, but at the same time, I feel a weird sense of, like, betraying my own values voting for Trump. What values?
Starting point is 01:32:20 Again, it's the hardcore, like, Second Amendment absolutist, the tariffs that he was running throughout. Now, I will say his proposal to remove income tax entirely and replace it with tariff, I like that. I don't like both. That's Congress, though. I know. So that's the issue. I look at him and there's nothing—
Starting point is 01:32:38 What's the issue with tariffs? If you have income tax and tariffs, tariffs are just a tax on the American people. If you have no income tax and you do have tariffs, well, now you're being taxed only on your consumption. I'm fine being taxed on consumption. How are tariffs a tax on the American people? Because even if you're technically taxing the overseas producers, when it gets over here, since the overseas producers are bringing things in, the American companies buying them have to pay more money to buy them, and then they pass that cost on to us.
Starting point is 01:33:03 So just buy domestically produced products. I would love to. The problem is a lot of them, we don't have a lot of them. Now, I'm, again, fully in favor of bringing manufacturing back, of bringing jobs back. How do you do that? I think Trump is the best option for that. I do think that. But how do you bring the factories back to the United States?
Starting point is 01:33:20 Lowering taxes. I think that if you were to lower taxes enough and you were to give people the correct incentives without tariffs, I think you can do it. You'd have to lower them to zero to compete with China. That is fine. Yeah. I'm fine with that. Get rid of the taxes. 15% flat tax on income, that's it.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Nothing else. What if you penalized companies that move their factories overseas? God, I just... That's the thing. With that, it becomes the precedent of, all right, well, how does this work? How do we decide when a company is getting penalized for moving overseas?
Starting point is 01:33:56 How do we decide when a domestic company gets penalized? You judge a tariff on their products to be imported. All right. So if an auto manufacturer moves... You have me on my rear end here. You're beating me. It's also funny because you said earlier... This is what Trump did. You also said earlier the libertarians, like you liked what the Mises were doing.
Starting point is 01:34:12 They were saying like, we should compromise. We should get some wins where we can. And then you're also like, but, you know, even though Trump would provide me all these things, like I still wouldn't vote for him. Like, the philosophy is contradicting for me. It is. I'll admit it probably is a little contradictory um you know i think i think at this point everybody's everybody's entrenched and i'm i'm having a hard time changing my paradigm in in 20 i think it was 2015 it might have been 16 michael moore had one of these one of the greatest speeches in modern american modern american politics which was intended as an anti-trump, although all the Trump supporters did was they clipped the end out and they presented what was the greatest Trump supporting speech of all time, where Michael
Starting point is 01:34:52 Moore said Donald Trump went into the office of the big auto manufacturers and he said, if you move these factories out of the United States and send them overseas, I will charge a 30 percent tariff on all of your goods and no one will buy your cars ever again and michael moore said it was amazing no one had ever stood up to these big corporations before like this and what he described as trump as the biggest fu in the history of the world the human malta cocktail thrown into the machine. He then goes on to say, and they'll like it for a little while. And then no, no. And then people loved it.
Starting point is 01:35:29 Donald Trump put these tariffs in place. And what did we end up seeing? A lot of factories decided instead of like he's got he's got he's got to buy the balls. If we try and make a widget here, it's going to cost us a dollar to make. And then we're going to pay the government 30% on top. If we make it in the U.S., it's going to cost us $1.20 with no tariff. We save 10 cents per widget, make them domestically.
Starting point is 01:35:54 And it was really amazing when, I can't remember which auto manufacturer it was. They moved back up to Michigan. There was an announcement of a $3 billion investment back in like 2017 or 2018. The moment Joe Biden gets in, they cancel it, go back to Mexico. And so all those jobs instantly lost. Poor Michigan. Michigan is experiencing a social collapse. What's happening in Detroit is really fascinating.
Starting point is 01:36:19 The reason why we got the Flint water crisis, Flint, Michigan has some of the most expensive water in the country. And so Flint switched off from the Detroit lines into their own local river, which was really bad. So people start getting like Legionnaire's disease. The reason Detroit was so expensive is that if you have a water system that costs a million dollars per month to maintain, it's static, that it costs ain't changing. Those pipes are there. Someone's got to run these services. Well, if you have 10 million people, I'm not saying like they do in Detroit, but let's say you have 2 million people. You can split that up. Everyone spends 50 cents per month. That's no problem. 50 cents. Unfortunately, a million people leave. Everyone's costs double. Now it's a dollar. To be fair, it's actually much higher than this.
Starting point is 01:37:07 Everyone was spending like 30, 40 bucks on water. And then as the population began to flee Michigan because the auto manufacturer is left and the Rust Belt is dying, the static cost remains. And so the cost per person goes up every time someone moves out. Eventually, you ended up with the Detroit metropolitan area
Starting point is 01:37:25 having the most expensive water in the country. So Flint says, we can't afford this. We are poor. Shut it off and switch to Flint River. And then everyone started getting sick, creating a massive crisis. We built this massive system in Detroit. It was beautiful. And they've destroyed it because they allowed these companies to go to Mexico and China
Starting point is 01:37:41 to produce these products with slave labor. The people in China, they're not getting paid. The Foxconn laboratories famously 10 years ago, people were walking off the building in mass or threatening to walk off the building in mass suicide because they were getting paid so little and they were forced to live in these like 16 person rooms and bunk beds and work like 12 to 14 hour days, barely getting any sleep. We shouldn't allow that. We shouldn't allow companies to like it's basically slavery. They are going to countries where there are no laws to govern human rights abuses so they can manufacture a product for 100 bucks and then sell it to an American for a thousand. What that does is it extracts the buying power of the
Starting point is 01:38:23 American middle class and the American working class, sending it from regular working people slowly over time to the wealthiest Americans. And the rest, a pittance, goes to the slave labor in Mexico, China, Indonesia and other places where they make your clothes, Cambodians and things like that. I think Trump was right to to impose the tariffs and say, make it in America. Give Americans the job. This will make for Americans. Some of these products might be a little bit more expensive in the short term, give Americans the job. This will make, for Americans, some of these products might be a little bit more expensive in the short term, but in the long term, because we're multi-layered thinkers,
Starting point is 01:38:51 Americans all of a sudden have income. They're working jobs where they make a lot of money. They're manufacturing cars, computers. We're no longer dependent on China for chips, or I should say Taiwan, but China for our medicine. Our antibiotics and our vitamin C is made in China, an adversary of this country. That is absolutely insane.
Starting point is 01:39:08 So I'm with Trump. I think I think he hit the nail on the head with the hammer with that one. And then what happened? They came out and they said this was a tax on the American people because these companies aren't going to change their behaviors. OK, well, that may be. I don't know. What I can tell you is Joe Biden now just implemented tariffs. Saying, well, we got to do it this way because the outsourcing is killing this country.
Starting point is 01:39:30 It is a little absurd that Biden is just slowly reimplementing Trump policies. And it's it's all the ones they hated at the beginning. Now, I mean, what's what's left? I don't think there's any Trump economic policies that Biden hasn't adopted because they worked better than his own. I think it's just social at this point. We're going to go to super chat. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? One like equals one. Biden broke his brain. Also head over to Tim cast dot com. Click join us on the left side in the menu bar. Become a member because the uncensored call in show will be coming up in 20 minutes where you can actually call in and talk to us and our guests and join the show you got to be a member for at least six months ten dollar a month
Starting point is 01:40:09 level or if you sign up today at 25 bucks a month you bypass that we had to create a barrier because we get wackos and weirdos who try to come in and disrupt us so we were like maybe time or money you pick so become a member support our work let's read your super chats. You're like Antifa can't afford $25. So when we first started, yeah. So it's fascinating. Many of them don't want to pay at all. Some of them would still do it. And then they would come in and they would try and screw with us.
Starting point is 01:40:38 And so then I was like, we have to put a gate. So none of these Antifa people pay and want to pay 10 months for six months to do it. So they give up. Yeah. $25 also was like, ah, it's not worth it. So we were like, this created like a minimum barrier to make sure, like you can go in the chat rooms, but there's like, after six months you get upgraded because we're trying to keep, people could do real disruptive stuff. And so we were like, got to keep those people out of here.
Starting point is 01:41:03 Only for the legit people who actually want to have the conversations. And then I will announce for our, uh, elite members. You may have seen the video I posted on X singing Eve sixes inside out. That's right. Karaoke. And, uh, so we're going to give, be giving shout outs to our elite members, which is a hundred bucks a month. When we do like, when we, so we went to this bar, they had karaoke night and there was like seven people there. And I'm like, we need more people. So I was like, we should just shout out the elite members, let them know like, Hey, we're going to come hang out, come hang out with us in West Virginia. And so that's, you know, a good, like a good benefit to those who really do really supporting us with the elite membership. And then you can, you can hang out and sing Eve six with us.
Starting point is 01:41:41 And then I tweeted it to Eve six, cause that dude Max is very, very lefty. And I wanted him to know that I know all the lyrics. I did not need the prompter. And I could sing that song again. And I will. All right. Here we go. Kyle says, hoping for another shout out for Chronic Golf and Games on Hilton Head.
Starting point is 01:41:57 We're proud to have whole bean and ground cast brew for sale in our marketplace. Shout out, man. Really do appreciate it. All right. Kyle says, man. Really do appreciate it. All right. Kyle says, Doctor, is that Ethan? Ethan Haim is facing
Starting point is 01:42:09 10 years on four felony charges for reporting on how his Texas hospital was chemically and surgically castrating kids as young as 11. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:42:18 I've seen this story. We've actually got one of these stories up for the Members Only show, which will get a little spicy. And Chris Carr just covered this on scnr.com, so check out article craig dub says i want to publicly thank
Starting point is 01:42:29 chris for not only supporting the suffering mmtlp community but giving us full access to his contacts in washington he's a man of the people 100 plus congressmen have signed on yes i'll actually talk about that stuff came up for a minute so you So you hear a lot about the stock market manipulation happened with AMC and with GameStop. Well, really, the one that has the evidence, the one that would be the smoking gun, if you will, is MMTLP. So this is a dividend stock who went on the OTC and traded for a little while against the company's will. And then eventually was to be, by FIN FINRA announced on December 6, 2022, that on December 12th, it was going to stop trading and go private again. Okay. Well then on the 7th, OTC, the vice president of OTC backs up that same thing saying you got to December 12th,
Starting point is 01:43:16 sell your shares, get your money out. Okay. Then on December 8th, FINRA again backs up that same statement, December 12th, it will go off being publicly traded. Then all these people, 65,000 shareholders, wake up on December 9th with the trade halt and all their money gone. And we have reached out to members of Congress. Congressman Mooney here in West Virginia has been a big help with this. I helped with 15 of these 100 signatures personally. So we have about 25% of Congress demanding answers, wanting FINRA to release a share account here just to audit this thing.
Starting point is 01:43:49 And, you know, we talk about having free and fair markets. Well, how about a free and fair stock market where people, everyday people like us can invest their way to their American dream without these hedge funds doing naked shorting and getting these regulatory agencies to do these unfair halts to taking your money. It's robbery. Let's just, it's Robin Hood in reverse. How did you get interested in this or learn about it?
Starting point is 01:44:11 I actually learned about it through X, through Twitter. You know, I was running for office. Some people reached out to me. You know, I always try to help people where I can. You know, people reach out to me about an issue. I always try to research it and try to help as many people as I can. I'm not even elected to office yet. I'm not even sworn in technically yet. And I see an opportunity to make a difference. And I have, through helping
Starting point is 01:44:31 President Trump's campaigns and the Tea Party movement, I know some people in D.C. So when people present me with an issue, I start calling these congressmen, like, hey, have you heard about this? They're like, no. So then I get some people like Drew Diligence is what he goes on on Twitter. His name's Drew. He has to give me some evidence. Let's get some stuff together. Let's start having some phone calls and some Zoom calls with some of these congressmen. You know, Sessions and Mooney and Eli Crane and Matt Gaetz and others have been very vocal on this. And it's becoming a bipartisan issue.
Starting point is 01:44:57 And this actually gives you a little bit of glimmer of hope. We talk about the two-party system and how they're at odds with each other. It's amazing, you know, the 100 members of Congress we have. It's not all one party. So, I mean, it does give you a little bit of glimmer of hope that you see a little bit of bipartisanship going on. But, you know, we're 18 months into this and it's not been resolved. And we have to resolve this stuff so we can, you know, have free and fair stock markets
Starting point is 01:45:17 because the amount of money that's been stolen from these people and the amount of suffering they've been through, it's inexcusable. I mean, this is so unconstitutional on so many levels. It's very cool that you took that on. Right on. All right. We got Max Reddick who says, Tim, did Pac-Man ever confirm for culture war? If so, this Friday.
Starting point is 01:45:32 The good news is Pac-Man, we were talking about coming on. He wants to come on with Just Me. He agreed. However, the original date was July 5th. We are not here on July 5th. It's like literally impossible. And are not here on July 5th. It's literally impossible. And so we are rescheduling, but shout out to David.
Starting point is 01:45:51 I respect it, and I appreciate his willingness to come on and have the conversation. Just me and him on the Culture War podcast. But I will stress, so that Thursday and Friday, July 4th and 5th, no shows, because it's the most important holiday. One of them, Father's Day is a pretty important one. I tweeted that out. The most important because fathers are required for a functioning society. Everyone was very excited. But the 4th of July, we are going to be hanging out. We're going to be watching the fireworks and we're going to be eating burgers and doing America stuff and flying the American flag because we love this country and we want it to survive. And when I say that there's like no country, I mean, there we are at odds, the people
Starting point is 01:46:28 who believe in what America is. Actually, I can simplify it. If someone flies an American flag, you know who they're voting for. That's where we currently are in this country. And that and that matters. So also, July 5 is also fourth July too. Everybody knows on July 5th, we're all going to be out eating burgers and watching fireworks. And then we're gonna do the same thing on Saturday. So we get a four day 4th of July celebration this year. And we are going to accept it.
Starting point is 01:46:54 The reality is also, there's literally no way to book someone to come on the 5th of July. No way. Like everyone, like, I wouldn't even want to ask somebody. They're going to be like, dude, I'm going to be hanging out with my family.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Come on. We really respect the observance of 4th of July here. We can't even want to ask somebody they're going to be like dude i'm going to be hanging out with my family come on we really respect the observance of fourth of july here we can't ask anyone to travel on it unless it is for you know freedom and liberty purposes yeah the other tough thing is that um we're going through like our holiday schedule and the last two weeks of december are just out because christmas falls i think on tuesday and so it's like so that's it monday's Christmas Eve. We're going to be with family. Tuesday's Christmas. We'll be with family.
Starting point is 01:47:27 And there's no way we're having anybody fly to this studio on a Wednesday. And then it's like, what do you do? Thursday and Friday. And then you got New Year's coming up right away. That's not happening. Nobody wants to do that. Plus, if there's any like bad storms, like you get one delayed flight and it messes up the entire guest schedule, I assume.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Yeah. All right. Let, let's grab some more Super Chats. Here we go. AJ Helbeck. Hey everyone, I don't know who else to turn to, but my Bernese has gone through a life-saving
Starting point is 01:47:58 surgery. The medical costs are sadly more than I can manage. If anyone can help, it's on Why Donate. Bastion the Bernese. I don it's on Why Donate. Bastion the Bernese. I don't know what Why Donate is. I have no idea. I'm assuming it's just another kind of like GoFundMe, right? Yeah, best of luck. I know GoFundMe and Gifts and Go, but I haven't heard of that one.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Yeah, I like Gifts and Go because they're not woke. They don't ban you. Like, wait, wait. Not Gifts and Go. Wait. Yeah, I guess Gifts and Go is GoFundMe. Right, GoFundMe is the bad one. Gisenko is the good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:26 There we go. I got confused for a second. All right. The Christian one. Kalishnikov says illegal alien truck driver with no CDL caused a fatal crash last week in Colorado that killed someone. He was deported 16 times prior. Brandon's border has consequences.
Starting point is 01:48:41 I don't even understand how you get deported 16 times, come back and then get a job without a driver's license. Well, we can't judge potential asylum seekers. And if we just assume everyone is supposed to be here. It's just so many times. It's crazy to me, but you hear stuff like this all the time, right? I mean, the story of someone who's been deported multiple times with an established criminal history comes back and I don't know, commits a crime is well documented in America. We just don't take the border crisis seriously, especially under this administration. Yeah, I mean, we've even had a woman here in West Virginia who was murdered by an illegal immigrant who crossed the border multiple times. So, I mean, it just keeps happening. Every state is a border state now.
Starting point is 01:49:18 You know, with the illegal immigration, I call it an invasion. This is called what it is. I mean, it's an invasion of people into our country and also the fentanyl crisis. I mean, we have to have, you know, if the federal government's not going to secure the border, then the states need to be willing to band together to do it. I mean, it's their 10th Amendment right to have, you know, secure borders. It's sad to me that you can name so many, like Rachel Moore in Maryland, at Mama Five, Lake and Riley. The fact that this is something that I feel like it should be something that happens once
Starting point is 01:49:43 and it captures House of Tension and we're horrified by it. But instead, there are so many names that you honestly end up forgetting some and it's sad. All right. The text that says the draft is only for aggressive wars. A war in self-defense wouldn't need a draft. True. People would defend themselves and our land. The only need for a draft is to force people to serve in an unwanted war. Get rid of the draft. Disagree. I'm with you on that.
Starting point is 01:50:03 The draft in a defensive war organizes and coordinates efforts to win the draft. Disagree. I'm with you on that. The draft in a defensive war organizes and coordinates efforts to win the war. If an invasion force lands at Boston and you say, no, everyone will defend themselves. A coordinated, organized enemy force will easily crush all of these singular individuals trying to defend themselves. When you conscript the young men, you say, in order to repel them, we have to organize our forces and build a strategy to defend themselves. When you conscript the young men, you say, in order to repel them, we have to organize our forces and build a strategy to stop them. Because, you know, I'll put it this way. Do you know why there's no anarchists, great anarchist societies? I believe Catalonia briefly had one for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:50:35 Iceland, for a while. Oh, yeah, that's a great example, too. Iceland. And do you know why Iceland had one for a little while? Because they're in the middle of the ocean. Exactly. Because what happens with anarchist societies is a barbarian leader or a fascist dictator or otherwise just says so they try to rule by committee so i can just instruct my men to take it okay so anytime there's an attempt at some like passive we're going to meet together and talk without a massive powerful powerful standing army.
Starting point is 01:51:07 The standing army just walks in. And then the anarchists are like, quick, convene a meeting to figure out what to do. Who's in charge? I don't know. And then you are being ruled by some bad guy. Yeah, we fought hard at Bunker Hill and we fought hard as we were getting pushed down through New York and into Pennsylvania and into Virginia. And it was only once we got to Valley Forge and trained a military that we were able to do anything.
Starting point is 01:51:27 We need a draft for domestic wars. All right. Jump Daddy says, I'm a paratrooper in the 82nd. We started getting female infantrymen last year. They can't carry a rucksack over 70 pounds. They can't carry a machine gun. And they're all getting medically retired. I've heard these stories.
Starting point is 01:51:42 This is why I ask. Do you think part of it is that people don't want to recognize the differences between men and women? They just think, oh, a person's a person, a person, which is not inherently true. In combat, yes. But like, if they drafted all of these Gen Z women and made them clean the kitchen, then you've got administrative work. You've got- I am for the Civil Service Corps. I agree. But I do not want anyone- But military has people who clean kitchens, too. True. We should suffer that out.
Starting point is 01:52:07 Maybe that would help the military budget, right? I'll put it this way. Civil Service Corps. You know it's not going to fly. We've got a couple options for you, okay? Combat, and it should be a requirement to carry the proper weight, machine gun, rucksack, all of that stuff. Or domestic work. You know what i mean like you know someone's got to clean the puke in the in the in the mess hall or whatever someone's got to do the dishes someone's
Starting point is 01:52:31 got to make the food there's also they're they're like internal jobs they can take like uh small arms techs yeah small the one that i thought immediately was small arms tech because first of all women's hands smaller easier to work with tiny parts. And it's totally safe. There's no danger. You're back behind the lines. Everybody comes to you and says, I need my gun. You hand it to them. That's all you do.
Starting point is 01:52:52 They can pull levers in a factory to make the, you know, machines work. Domestic, no problem. You get drafted, you work, you got to go do it. Hey, there you go. As long as you don't get military service benefits for it. If you're in the military, why not? I don't think they should be in the military. I think they should do these tasks in the Civil Service Corps,
Starting point is 01:53:08 which I'm now getting more and more excited about every time I say it. I like the Starship Troopers model. There's no such thing. That's the one with that worm bug thing. No, that's Dune. Oh, I don't think I've seen it. No, there's a gigantic one. Is there?
Starting point is 01:53:21 Well, it's like a... I don't know how to describe it, I guess. It's huge, but it's sort of like... And then he's like, it's afraid. Oh, that thing. Okay, now I know what you're talking about. Yeah. I'm talking more about the book.
Starting point is 01:53:31 Okay. I haven't read the book. The movie is a satire written by a guy who never read the book. Yeah, but even in the movie, the bugs are the bad guys. They attacked Earth. Yeah, it's very anti-bug. I definitely got that vibe. I was like, what?
Starting point is 01:53:45 And then he tried making the humans look like Nazis. And I'm like, but we were attacked. They blew up a city and killed millions of people. The bugs were the aggressors here. Yeah, they were evil. Wow. They killed so many people for no reason. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:57 And then we went, we conquered them. Don't hit me. I don't want to get into a fight. You know what I'm saying? Let's go. Omega Rosetsu says, Tim, have you considered that including women to be part of the selective service would be how it is dismantled? I personally say end the draft. I like the idea of like, you know, back in the day, the British are coming and they're killing everybody.
Starting point is 01:54:18 And people are like, OK, we have to stand up against this. And they went to a bunch of young men and said, are you with us or not? And they were like, you're in. We got to defend this country if there's going to be one but i do believe a lot of the continental army was enlisted not conscripted i think part of enlisted is that you believe that there is something worth fighting for and i can understand where generations after seeing you know endless wars or feeling like the places were being sent don't actually serve a national defense purpose they just sort of serve the purpose of getting more influence for people in positions of influence. That's not a very inspirational time to sign up and potentially risk your life.
Starting point is 01:54:54 Yeah, no. What have we here? Ryan Sargent says, straight up, women's equality depends on men's willingness to grant it. Prove me wrong. No, you're correct. 100%. There's a video that went viral a few months ago and it's popping up again where an untrained man fights a woman with 10 years experience in karate and it's just like people are saying the guy's clearly holding back it's like yeah other people complained that the style of karate she was she was using was not a legitimate fighting style and i gotta admit i'd be willing to bet that if
Starting point is 01:55:25 this guy who was untrained fought round a rousey she'd mess him up yeah real bad however i do think that like the average guy well you know i don't know if that's true anymore the average guy is so doughy and weak that they probably would not be able to actually handle a trained woman at this point whereas like if you go back to what the average guy is supposed to be versus the 200-pound guy it is today, you know, maybe, women on average are 170 pounds in the United States.
Starting point is 01:55:51 That's crazy. I'm 185 pounds. What is the average height? For a woman, it's, what, a 5'4". 5'4", 170 pounds? Yeah, and guys are 5'9", 200. Guys. Yikes.
Starting point is 01:56:04 Not the ratio I would go for but no I was 5'9 and 200 a year and a half ago I did not look good I did not feel good let's go Tim Aldridge says as someone who's tried to initially join the Air Force and then cross over from the Navy into the Space Force good luck getting into either
Starting point is 01:56:21 especially during a war I had a very good ASVAB score I'm hoping it sticks everyone's going to want to be working in the kitchen into either, especially during a war. I had a very good ASVAB score. I'm hoping it sticks. Everyone's going to want to be working in the kitchen. I want to write the propaganda. I want that to be my job. Space Force makes its recruiting goals,
Starting point is 01:56:37 so it'll be interesting to see how the draft would affect them. It's really, you know, infantry. That's what the draft is for. I just don't know that many people who are like, I have known some but there are not a lot of people who are like i want to be front lines all right sneak king says we should draft illegal aliens first no no they have no stake in it they won't want to fight they'll desert they're already talking about doing that and granting them citizenship in exchange that might work no yeah not a fan you come here illegally and then we're like okay but if we give you federal money you, you'll be loyal to the federal government?
Starting point is 01:57:07 And they're like, okay. I say we send it all to Ukraine. Well, my thinking is you don't take all of the illegal immigrants, put them into a regiment together, and then send them off to fight. You split them up amongst regiments that are full of Americans and then that culturally Americanizes them. It's what the Romans did in a lot of cases. I just think it's weird that there are all kinds of rules about eliciting in the military when you have a criminal record.
Starting point is 01:57:28 But if you're here in the country illegally, which is a crime, you could then be in the military and be granted a pathway to citizenship. I do think it's a little silly that we have, you can't be in the military if you have a criminal record. Like so many people come out of the military,
Starting point is 01:57:40 better people than they went in. I mean, you are in there with people who are, they're going to call you out when you do bad things. They're going to make it a problem when you go against the group. Like, they're going to teach you how to be a team player. Yeah. So we're going to put an end to this right now. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:57:57 SA Federali says, you better call it Quad Cities Pizza, Tim. SA, you are wrong. Stop calling my pizza your pizza. This right here, we have an image. Let me show it for you. This is Chicago. This is real Chicago pizza. What you are seeing on your screen,
Starting point is 01:58:11 this right here, this image where you can see a little, that deep dish garbage, that is tourist pizza for people who don't know what pizza is, and they come to Chicago, and they went, I want Chicago pizza, and we all go, yeah, yeah, go to Giordano's. And they do. Don't get me wrong. Lou Malnati's. I don't know if Leona still exists. Pizzeria yeah, go to Giordano's. And they do. Don't get me wrong. Lou Malnati's.
Starting point is 01:58:27 I don't know if Leona still exists. Pizzeria Uno. They're all over the place. And Giordano's. It's good. But 99% of the time in Chicago, when you'd order a pizza, you would get this big thing right here on the right. The crust is flat. It is thin.
Starting point is 01:58:41 It doesn't rise on the edges. It's crunchy. The middle is not crunchy. Under the cheese and everything, it's thick, but it's still kind of soft. This is Quad Cities. What is this? I've never had such a thing before. That's just a Neapolitan pizza sliced into squares.
Starting point is 01:58:55 I do not know what this Quad Cities pizza is. Do not come to me and tell me that your pizza is my pizza. Okay? The one you're saying that's classic Chicago pizza looks interesting. Obviously, I grew up in New England. There's a pizza quality that i'm looking for the the thing about deep dish pizza is uh you can't pick it up you have to use utensils for it it's fun as a thing but see i feel like when i've eaten it it's like just too it is kind of hard i think it's because outside of chicago nobody knows how to do it right it's a kind of it's nice but it just
Starting point is 01:59:23 doesn't seem like if you're looking for pizza, this is what you would get. I will tell you this. What you're describing looks different. In my life, I have gone to a deep dish pizza place seven or eight times. Yeah. And I have gone to a real pizza place 897 times. When, and I mean, honestly honestly probably more than that we would go to big tony's in near logan
Starting point is 01:59:47 square and i think it's closed now and we'd order the extra large jumbo family size jardinera pizza and it was massive and it looks like that and they call it tavern style well i guess that's what what it's called i don't know we just called it pizza. And almost never would we be like, let's go get pizza and eat Giordano's. I like Giordano's. It's good. No beef. You know, it's tourist pizza. The tourists come in and they go, we want pizza. And they go buy the weird tourist stuff from that big chain
Starting point is 02:00:16 of tourist pizza places that you could order on the internet pre-made frozen and delivered to you. You guys want a little Philadelphia secret? Pat's and Gino's aren't the best cheese steaks. Probably. They're not anywhere near it. Well, you gotta get the good local stuff. Alright, everybody, now that we've solved
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