Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1049 Biden FREEZES On Stage, White House Claims Biden Vids Are DEEPFAKES w/Chris Rose
Episode Date: June 18, 2024Tim, Hannah Claire, & Serge are joined by Aidan Mattis & Chris Rose to discuss Biden freezing again & Obama helping him off the stage, the White House lying about Biden freezing on stage, the US Senat...e wanting to register women into the military draft, and a Canadian study admitting the chance of a new American Civil War. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Serge @sergedotcom (everywhere) Guests: Chris Rose @ChrisRoseWV (X) Aidan Mattis @TheLoreLodge (YouTube) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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It's hard to tell exactly what's going on, but he just stops moving,
stares at the audience.
Obama's waving, grabs Biden's arm and gives him a little tug,
and then Biden starts walking with him.
Obama puts his hand on his back and seems to lead him off stage.
Now, Democrats are freaking out saying it never happened.
You're lying.
But there's video of it.
I don't know how you deny this stuff.
Here's the best part.
You know, over the past couple of weeks,
things have gotten really, really bad with Joe Biden.
You had that video from the G7 where he's like wandering off for some reason.
Karine Jean-Pierre claimed these were, quote, cheap fakes.
I don't know what that means. And then deep fakes. These are real videos of Joe Biden.
They are worrisome. So we'll talk about that.
And I do have some some fun news for you guys, because apparently a Canadian study,
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with everybody, as I mentioned. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Chris Rose.
Thank you for letting me be on tonight, Tim.
It's a pleasure to be here.
Who are you? What do you do?
I am a fourth-generation West Virginia coal miner who just won the Republican primary in West Virginia State Senate District 2.
I am senator-elect.
I am essentially running unopposed for the general election.
And what makes my election unique is I went up against a two-term incumbent who was the Senate health chair.
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And that while money,
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That's right. Glad to hear it, man.
Thanks for hanging out. It's going to be a lot of fun.
Joining us tonight also is Aidan Mattis.
Hey, guys. I'm Aidan Mattis.
I am the host and lead researcher for the Lore Lodge YouTube channel
where we talk about strange history, unsolved mysteries, and weird disappearances.
That's cool. Two guests, one show.
I'm glad you guys both are here.
I'm Hannah Claire Brimel. I'm a writer for SCNR.com, Scanner News. Follow them at TimCastNews on the internet.
Hi, Serge. Yo, you too. Let's get started, Tim. Here's the big news. First, we're going to start
with this one just so you can get an update on what's happening since this weekend. Biden appears
to freeze up and has to be led off stage by Obama at Megabucks LA fundraiser. Now, you name it. Democrat pundits are saying it
never happened. It's a lie. My favorite was our good friend, the Krasensteins, our good friends,
the Krasensteins, where they posted this video where it shows Biden smiling and waving. And then
it cuts to a wide shot as Biden freezes up for about seven or so seconds, seven or eight seconds.
He freezes. But this wide shot they post, you can't see anything.
So actually, we have this clip that was posted by Chris Gardner from, I believe, the Hollywood Reporter.
So this is this corporate press right here.
Take a look at this video.
Let's try and see if we can zoom in.
And I'm going to play this for you. There you can see he's just standing there not moving.
Ha ha ha! So I counted is about seven seconds where Biden just stops moving and his arms go down and he just stares.
And then Obama grabs his arm and gives him a little tug and then Biden turns, starts walking.
Then he puts his hand on his back. Now, I tell you this. If it was Joe Rogan, who was standing on stage
and smiling and just staring off,
and Dave Smith grabbed his arm, gave him a tug,
and then Joe turned, it was like, oh,
and they walked off together,
I wouldn't think anything of it.
But Joe Biden's had, in the past week,
so many of these videos coming out
that the real issue is,
this is how I described it earlier today.
If your friend is walking, you know, you're like, let's say you're walking to go get a slice of
pizza and he stumbles a little, he trips on his, you know, stumbles and you're like, whoa,
are you all right? You don't think anything of it. Five minutes later, he does it again. You're like,
bro, are you something wrong? Then you start to notice that over the next couple of weeks,
he seems to be tripping and stumbling a lot and having a hard time standing up. You might be like,
hey man, I think something's wrong. You've been you've been having this. This is what we're seeing
with Joe Biden. The reason why people are saying this looks bad for Joe is that it keeps happening
over and over and over again. What do you guys think? Mountain out of Moho? No, I think it's
getting worse. I mean, when the press was describing it, they were saying, you know,
he had to get let off stage, the hand on the back motion. But I actually think the arm tug is the worst part. The arm tug is a former president leading
our current president off the stage. Like, this is not good. The fact that somebody else has to
be like, you're supposed to walk away now. And Corinne Jean-Pierre was asked about this during
a press gaggle today. And she was like, well, you guys are making a big deal out of nothing.
And they're old friends. You know, that's just something that happens. Old friends, you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. And they're old friends, you know? That's just something that happens.
Old friends, you know, pat each other on the back
and apparently guide each other gingerly off the stage.
Very, very weird to me.
I don't know how you guys feel.
I just don't understand why we have people this old in charge.
Like, I get that they're the most experienced,
but sit back, take an advisory role,
be in the cabinet maybe, but stop running for office.
Stop being the guy who has the nuclear codes. Like, let Gen X take over. It's time. I agree. And it's not
even Gen X. I think millennials too. Like where are millennials in running for office? We're
starting to see it. Good. They should have been running more. Way too much of Congress, the Senate
are a bunch of old people, but I will give the caveat while I certainly would prefer a much
younger candidate. That's why I like Vivek, for instance.
You can't, like, look, Joe Biden's, what is he, 81?
Yeah.
And Trump is what, 77?
Just turned 78.
Just turned 78.
Because his birthday was like last Friday, right?
His birthday is Flag Day.
But yeah, but 78, I thought he just turned 77.
So he's 78.
Let me double check.
Yeah, let's make sure.
I honestly thought he was older.
Yeah.
I agree on the age thing.
But come on, like, Trump is spry. You know what I mean? Like, man. Yeah. I agree on the age thing. But come on. Like, Trump is spry.
You know what I mean?
Like, man.
78.
78 years old.
And see, I'm not a big fan.
Right?
And that's why when people bring up Biden's age, Trump says, no, there's no problem with how old he is.
He's just a bad president.
It's like, ah, there is a problem with how old he is.
And there's a problem with how old Trump is, too.
Yeah.
But there's, like, the gap between biden's
gaffes i mean like trump doesn't have these these just don't happen the media tries to make claims
about donald trump but i gotta be honest if donald trump i guess at his funder at tp usa he said the
name of the wrong name of a doctor and they were like we got him he said the wrong i'm like we mix
up names all the time everyone does you could be 15 be 15. You could be 35. You could be 27.
You could be 81.
People mix up names.
I'm not going to, I don't get mad at Joe Biden for accidentally calling John Smith,
Rick Smith or something.
I think one time on the show, I was talking about Bill Barr, the former attorney general,
and I said Bill Burr.
I say that all the time.
It's rough, man.
It's not vowel, but it makes a huge difference.
I'd take that.
I'd have Bill Burr.
But there was an issue. I don't know. He's like, he's pretty far left. It's one vowel, but it makes a huge difference. I'd take that. I'd have Bill Burr. But there was an issue.
I don't know.
He's like, he's pretty far left.
Can it get worse?
Yeah.
I'm not for a Bill Burr attorney general tip, I will say.
Bill Burr said during COVID, he said, I don't care.
I just turn on the TV.
If they tell me to do it, I'll do it.
And I'm like, but my point is Joe Biden got names wrong.
He got the name of Syria wrong and said Libya.
And I'm like, that's a real big problem.
If he's giving orders, kind of feels like people aren't going to want to listen to him
if he's given these, you know, if he's if he's this deficient.
But again, it's not about whether or not you make a gaffe.
Trump can make a gaffe.
But you watch Trump do these rallies off the cuff and he's he's lucid.
You look at Joe Biden and it's just it's getting exponentially worse.
Has Joe Biden ever done an hour long interview?
I mean, over the weekend at Turning Point, Trump spoke for an hour.
He does hour long like he did an hour long interview with Dr. Phil.
Like he can speak for a long period of time.
I feel like we never see that from Joe Biden.
And even here, you know, maybe they're trying to mimic podcasting with this like three person panel, make him seem more casual or whatever.
But it also to me comes across as like he can't actually be on stage for that long alone. Like
he needs the break to be able to recover. He was on for 40 minutes, 40 minutes with two other people.
Yeah. So I didn't talk. I could talk for 40 minutes just to himself i'm sure like he probably does it's a huge difference you know and like i again maybe this was
a formatting choice to make him seem with it cool who knows but it just really did not convey a sense
of strength or leaders like do you remember there was a video of i think it's from the g7 summit it's
from an international meeting with you know you've got like Macron there, you've
got Trudeau, whatever.
And Trump like moves someone out of the way so he can be in a better spot for the photo.
Like maybe you don't like it, but he is not going to be led off stage by Obama.
And I think that's telling of the mental state, even if they are similar in age.
I don't know, man.
It's the grains of sand in the heap.
You know what I think with this?
Obama, they were supposed to leave the stage.
And the only reason Obama stayed and waved
is because Biden stopped.
And he's thinking like, come on.
You can't leave before the president.
Right.
And so that's why he finally just grabbed his arm.
I think the plan was you get up
and now you walk off the stage.
Biden wasn't doing it. He's lost. He's lost out grabbed his arm. I think the plan was you get up and now you walk off the stage. Biden wasn't doing it.
He's lost.
He's lost out of his mind.
And for the administration to say this is cheap fakes and we just need to be dismissive of this.
This is a one time thing.
It's not.
It's happened three or four times within a week.
Normandy, the fundraiser.
And it's happened several times now.
Didn't he?
Wasn't it pretty in the last couple of weeks?
He was giving that press briefing,
and then he got asked a question as he was exiting the room, and he like turned back.
Just smiled kind of weirdly.
That was when they asked if he was responsible for Trump going to prison.
Yes.
For Trump's guilty conviction at prison.
And then he just like, and everyone's like, okay, this dude is like, either he's evil,
and he was turning and giving that smile like, yes, it's me.
Or his brain doesn't work and he's just like, and he doesn't know what's going on.
It's not good.
I think this is the leadership of our country right now.
I mean, we're talking about a guy when you ask him, well, what do you think about the issue at the southern border?
And his response is he likes vanilla ice cream.
I mean, that's a huge problem.
The cognitive decline of this president is on full display. I mean, 2020 was bad enough i mean it's cognitive decline was already there but i
mean in the last four years it's got so much worse and we have you know like that of biden with being
led off the stage by obama is the perfect analogy for what this administration has been it's obama's
third term biden you know the lights are off. Nobody's home. The people
behind, let's face it, other people around this administration, this guy doesn't know what world
he lives in. And that's what the rest of the world sees. That's why we're not being taken seriously
on a national stage. That's why, you know, at the G7 summit, that's the other one I was thinking of,
he wanders off the stage at G7. They're having this little photo op and he's wandering off.
Oh, they were outside at a skydiving demonstration
yeah that's right he turns around and starts walking away when they're doing a photo shoot
and then what happens the media runs out uh no no he was greeting some other veterans it's like
he's in the middle of a like a like a photo op with all these other world leaders he's
clearly breaking protocol the prime minister of italy went to go get him like not good thank you
for that i guess guess, Italy.
But rough all around.
I honestly, I kind of wonder how much people really do care at this point, because I kind
of just feel like there's no country.
You know, I hate to say it because it sounds, I don't know if it's blackpilled or whatever,
but how many times can you point out the president's brain doesn't work?
Many people have been saying for years, he's a puppet.
We can get Bernie's president.
And I'm like
guy if that's the case and trump's being charged with crimes that don't exist and we got this one
video this one story a j6er has been in pre-trial detention for 1200 days i'm like i don't think we
have a functioning country at all. It's just not there.
Yeah, and the Libertarians just nominated a furry, so that's not great.
Well, he's not actually a furry, is he?
He had, like, the dog mask thing in one of his pictures.
No.
Yeah, the same one as the general who had the dog mask.
Yeah, just picture Chase Oliver with that on.
Chase Oliver wearing a dog mask.
Uh-huh.
That's a, wow.
Unless it was, like, fake, but it looked real to me.
I think part of the issue with the libertarians.
Yeah, right. Like, thanks.
I think part of the issue is that the Democrats are successfully trying to pivot from a figurehead presidency. They're trying to sort of say, like, oh, Biden, he's you guys are mean to him.
You know, he does everything right all the time.
But you know what? If you elect Trump, he's going to take every right away from you.
He's going to lock you guys all up.
It's all awful.
Like they have successfully tried to steer the ship in such a fear mongering path that
it's actually it doesn't matter who's president because it just can't be Trump.
And that is sort of problematic for voters because Biden's not actually popular with
his own party anymore.
Here we go.
You ready for this one?
CBS Austin.
White House claims recent viral videos of Biden are actually deep fakes.
And Karine Jean-Pierre actually invented a new word I had never heard before.
Cheap fakes.
I was trying to make out what she said.
I still don't know that's exactly what she said.
But according to the Daily Beast, she said the word cheap fake.
Well, here you go.
Ironically, several recent cheap fakes actually attack the president for thanking troops, for thanking troops.
That is what they're attacking the president for. Both in Normandy, this happened and again in Italy.
And I think that it tells you everything that we need to know about how how desperate how desperate Republicans are here.
And instead of talking about the president's performance in office,
and what I mean by that is his legislative wins,
what he's been able to do for the American people across the country,
we're seeing these deep fakes, these manipulated videos.
And it is, again, done in bad faith.
So Charlie Kirk posted,
Unbelievable Kareem Jean-Pierre is blaming deep fakes for all the videos going around exposing how old, feeble and senile Joe Biden looks anytime he steps out in public.
This sums up the White House calm strategy in one video.
Don't believe your lying eyes.
I called this.
I said I'm not saying I'm the only one who called. I was just saying the AI conversation is going to turn into a tool to deny bad press.
And Democrat default libs are going to believe it.
And this is why they do it.
These people are evil.
They are liars.
I cannot understand what goes through a person like Karine Jean-Pierre's head when she steps out there and just lies through her teeth, then accuses everyone else of lying.
We can all watch these videos over and over and over again.
We're like, these things add up.
And now she's saying they're deep fakes.
Oh, I also want to shout out when she mentioned that she had in Normandy and with the G7 in
Italy, calling those deep fakes where he was trying to thank the troops.
It's like she didn't mention what the subject of those videos actually was it was not a deep fake
when biden squatted on the stage and some people believed that he was having a boom boom you know
what i mean and that that's unfortunate if that's the case we don't know for sure
but they're calling it a deep fake that i'm sorry that actually says to me that
i think it's probably more likely to be true that they're eggs biden pooped his
pants and he's seen alan wandering off because they're calling them deep fakes they're they're
you know the bigger the story the bigger lie they're really hamming this up yeah the the clips
that i saw of all of these things originated in mainstream media yeah it looked like news coverage
right it was a clip like with the embassy nbc news uh banner going around the bottom. It's with, you know, whatever CNN logo. Unless you're saying someone, like I watched one on an MSNBC morning show. So unless you're telling
me somebody let the MSNBC morning shows watch a fake version of this, I think you are just lying
to yourselves. I think you are lying through your teeth and hoping that your narrative is the one
that ultimately is promoted by the press, which who, by the way, also shared these videos of Biden speaking in this raspy, slurred voice,
looking lost.
Like, it doesn't make any sense.
And yet she's just expecting, I guess, their allies in the media to back her up.
But I mean, you were just criticizing the general age, Aiden.
Are you going to you're voting for Trump?
I genuinely don't know what I'm going to do.
Oh, really?
I have never voted for trump um
i'm i was hoping that we were gonna get dave smith or josh smith or any of the libertarian
smiths there are quite a few of them actually yeah and we got now we have we have 81 year old
joe biden we have 78 year old trump and we have 30 40 something year old chase oliver who wears
furry dog puppy play masks.
Is that for real?
I'm at this point, I'm going to vote for the Constitution Party.
I don't even know.
Just out of protest.
I don't think he was wearing a dog mask.
What percentage of voters do you think?
It wasn't the full furry dog mask.
It was the kink dog mask.
Yeah, I know.
I get that.
But I've never seen a photo of Chase Oliver wearing the kink mask.
It was being shared in libertarian circles.
Wow.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
Maybe, like I said, maybe it's fake, but it did not look good.
I mean, I've watched the guy talk.
It's just there's nothing there.
He's going to come out and say, that's a cheap fake.
Yeah.
Corrine, back him up.
You got no choice.
You got to vote for Trump now.
I want to.
I mean, you know, I was, I was, the purpose of voting for a president is for two big reasons
law enforcement and military foreign policy so you vote for joe biden what do you get war yeah
you vote for trump well when trump was president the first time around he was actually withdrawing
our troops and trying to bring peace whether he was successful or not some people have opinions
about the abraham accords like dave smith and i disagree on that but he was successful or not, some people have opinions about the Abraham Accords, like Dave Smith, and I disagree on that, but he was bringing peace. Crossing the
demilitarized zone into North Korea was one of the most significant moves made by a U.S. president
in my lifetime, maybe even in history. I know there's no Korean War 200 years ago, but a
president walking into enemy territory and shaking the hands with the enemy leader trying to get a
peace agreement is massive. You vote for Joe Biden, you get war to be fair you vote for chase oliver
i do not believe chase chase oliver will start wars yeah that's that's the difficulty it's like
i really hate the optics on this guy but i don't think he's gonna do any foreign policy no-nos
his domestic policy is i like his economics i don't necessarily like some of his his social
stuff um oliver yeah i don't i don't even like his economics. I don't necessarily like some of his social stuff.
Oliver?
Yeah.
I don't even like his economic stuff.
He's pro-vaccine mandate.
Yeah, but that's not economic.
I mean, like, businesses shutting down, firing people who've had careers for 10 years.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah, that's not great.
Mandate subsidized by the government?
I don't understand any of this.
And I always got to stress this because immediately libertarians come out and they go,
he is not for mandates.
He does not believe the government should be allowed to.
Almost all of the vaccine mandates were private.
We're private businesses that were saying we've hereby just arbitrarily decided out of our hundred thousand employees, we're going to force them to undergo medical treatment or they get fired.
Yeah.
So that's the Libertarian Party for you.
Trump kept saying it shouldn't be allowed.
It's your choice.
I at least can accept that.
But I don't I don't I don't know how you could not vote for Trump.
I personally really liked the discussion that was going around. It was being led by the Mises
caucus of basically taking the Libertarian Party and saying, hey, you want our three to five percent
of the vote that you never get. Three to five percent, three to five historically, you know,
recently, the last four elections but you know that
my point is like they had a deal it was basically you get our votes you'll probably win the election
no matter what but we want something in return and the more like traditional libertarian side
was like absolutely not as if we were going to win anything on our own ever yeah we weren't
you ever think of yourself as a libertarian i I mean, I have a lot of libertarian-leaning policies.
I worked with the Tea Party movement for many years, and that stems from libertarianism in a way.
You know, like Ron Paul, Rand Paul were big champions of the Tea Party movement,
and that's how I got my start helping people like them and Alex Mooney and Mike Lee and others get elected.
And I do have a lot of libertarian views.
I want government out of my life and out of the way.
And, you know, like West Virginia, you know, you think of coal country, right?
War on coal.
That's government interference that took a very prosperous state and turned it into one of the least economically ranked states in the country.
We're at the bottom of every measure you can think of now because of that government interference.
So, yeah, a lot of West Virginians fighting back against that are libertarian in nature.
We want government out of our lives.
Yeah.
So Joe Jorgensen in 2020 got 1.2 percent. Yeah, that might have been worse than I thought it was. back against that are libertarian in nature we want government out of our lives yeah so uh joe
jorgensen in 2020 got 1.2 percent yeah that uh that might have been worse than i thought it was
yeah dude we were at 13 in the polls with johnson at one point and then and then he made the best
foreign policy claim of all time and everybody said well absolutely not that's actually a good
point you made before the show what is aleppoppo? And, you know, you were like, that's actually the correct position. I actually agree. Like, you know, I was always saying that if if it were important. And that would be the deflection. You don't got to address what it is. You don't got to say
anything about it. Johnson goes, and what is Aleppo? And if you think about it, it is bad.
President's supposed to be in charge of foreign policy. But it's funny when you think about it,
we'd be better for the president who didn't know what was going on at all, because it would imply
we ain't doing anything there. Instead, we get a president who's like, what was going on at all because it would imply we ain't doing anything there instead we get a president we get a president who's like let's secretly put troops
brock obama when did when did we declare war in syria does anybody remember when the declaration
happened and the troop troops were ordered to syria obama because they're there and said to
himself i think i should send troops there and he said to himself that's a great idea sir and that's
what happened and what are they doing oil donald trump Trump, man, I love this guy, Trump. He's in office and it was so much fun when he comes
out that famous moment in front of the helicopter and he's like, we're selling weapons to the
Saudis. It's fantastic. We'll be great for our economy. And all of the anti-war leftists were
just like, oh, my God, he just came out and said it. He just admitted that's what we do we sell weapons to these countries
and bolster our economy
and then he mentioned we're trying to get our troops out of Syria
we're going to leave a couple hundred in to guard the oil
I was like wow
I kind of feel like
he was giving a middle finger to the deep state
by doing those things
just at blurting it out
that's also how you know aliens aren't real
because that dude would have just told you he would have been like oh yeah there's aliens that was like that was a
conversation we were having on uh inverted world last night uh yeah last night was about aliens
and the whole like are they are they among us already thing and it's just like if if they were
i feel like we would know it by now it's just you saw that harvard study yeah and i i listen i'm
not against it i like the idea i
mean i have a bigfoot series like i don't necessarily believe in bigfoot but like i'm
i'm open to it but you know that was seeing that like the the way the government handled the alien
thing was so different from how they've handled every actual disclosure of anything ever they
were like oh yeah uh everybody come on media everybody come here we're gonna have a big
hearing we're gonna have a big hearing.
We're gonna have a really big hearing
and tell everybody everything.
And I think with the government,
considering how much
closed door shit happens,
like it's just not,
it doesn't make sense.
I can't get there.
Harvard put out that study
where they said
maybe they're fairies.
You saw that?
Oh yeah.
No joke.
I'm not,
I'm being dead serious.
A Harvard paper
or whatever,
I don't even call it a study, said that they believe that aliens could be fairies and elves.
That's very open-minded of them.
It was a little too open-minded.
They're thinking outside the box.
I love that creativity.
I think they called them crypto-terrestrials at one point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've heard that West Virginia has the most cryptics in the nation.
Cryptid creatures.
Cryptids.
Sorry, I'm fired. You got Flatwoods Monster. You got Mothman. Snailygaster. Yeah. Sna've heard that West Virginia has the most cryptics in the nation. Cryptic creatures. Cryptids. Cryptids, yeah. Sorry, I'm fired.
You got Flatwoods Monster.
You got Mothman.
Snailegaster.
Yeah.
Snailegaster.
You got the, oh, man, I'm forgetting them.
Don't you have Sheep Squatch?
I think so.
I think that is West Virginia.
Mothman, of course.
And you're talking about Bigfoot.
The Bigfoot Festival is actually coming up down in Sutton, West Virginia.
So that's actually coming up.
What's that?
The Grafton Monster.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Anybody who plays Fallout 76 knows all about all the West Virginia crypt So that's actually coming up. What's that? The Grafton Monster. Oh yeah. Anybody who plays Fallout 76
knows all about all the West Virginia
cryptids because they're all in the game.
But these are all actually based on actual monsters
which I
have no idea why West Virginia has so many.
But it has a lot. Can you answer this for us
as a native? No, I'm not really
sure. But this is just something you grew up with.
These folklore stories and
the older generations just love telling stories.
And I guess I wouldn't assume a lot of them are based off similar characters.
It's kind of like that thing you whisper in the ear and it spreads across the classroom when you're a kid
and it changes by the time it gets to the end.
I think it's how a lot of these characters were created is from storytelling and stuff.
Treasured regional culture, I guess.
What I think it is is that West Virginia is very mountainous.
The reason it wasn't heavily settled, despite being east coast, was because of the Appalachian Mountains.
And so you don't get a lot of people there.
It makes it easier for stories to emerge.
So a guy, he's walking through the woods, and he sees a gigantic sheep or a goat in a box or something.
And then he goes and tells his friends, like, I swear it was standing on its legs, and it was a goat. And it, you know, bucks or something. And then he goes and tells his friends, like, I swear it was standing on its legs and it was a sheep.
And they're like, like Sasquatch, but a sheep?
Yeah, sheep-squatch.
And there's no, there's like, there's less people around, so it becomes a tall tale.
Yeah.
In big cities, everybody talks to each other and it just goes on the internet.
And then everybody just says, you know, debunk, nothing happened.
Or someone tries to explain it away.
You get more fun when you live out in the middle of nowhere.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's also part of the Irish, the Scotch-Irish heritage here, because a lot of that culture has sort of a mythical creature element, and especially the folklore telling.
You know, parables or all of these stories are often used to teach people lessons, and so there's a level of, like, crossover culture.
You have a community that's like, we've got to be able to reference something. And also we believe that in these, you know, these other things, it's an interesting potential
consequence of regional immigration.
Maybe they're all just elves.
Harvard thinks.
So that's where your money's going.
That's the whole fairies and elves thing that they're doing.
That's because there is this wide classification of that in entirely continental folklore.
But that's one of the cool things, what you were saying, the Irish and Scott stuff.
They brought all their fairies over. And because of the way their culture was
set up with the clans and the tribes, they actually felt a close connection to a lot of the Native
American tribes they ran into out here. So they would intermarry a lot, they would trade. And
what happened in a lot of cases was you got these stories where you'd have the fairy stories from
the Irish and the Scots. And then you'd have these stories of things like the Wendigo and the Tsul Kalu and stuff
like that, that the Cherokee and the Algonquin had.
And these things then morph and turn into even more things.
And then as you get the communities going out, they come up with all sorts of different
crazy stuff.
This is the thing that I think is so important about regional culture in America.
Like you would need to be here from here and grow up with this to really be able to appreciate
it.
And we just create this like homogenous online culture where everyone just
moves from one big city to the other. Like you'll, you will lose this stuff. No, he's absolutely
right. You know, like Cherokee is a predominant part of West Virginia culture as well, because
every one of us are like, you know, I'm sixth generation West Virginian. If you have been here
that amount of time or longer, there's a chance you have Cherokee blood in you as well, as long
with like, you know, Scottish American or Irish or something like that. So to
his point, he's spot on. Most people in West Virginia have at least one of those three in
their ancestry. Let's jump to the other big news of the day from scnr.com. And for the life of me,
I don't understand why no one is talking about this. The Senate has released their summary of the National Defense
Authorization Act, which would require women to register for the draft. This is big. OK,
the House has already passed the National Defense Authorization Act. The Senate is now putting
theirs forward, which includes requiring women to register for the draft. National Defense
Authorization Act would require women to register for selective service.
Rep Roy responded to the news, writing, quote, You can go straight to hell over my dead body.
The U.S. Senate Armed Service Committee version of the NDAA for fiscal year 2025 would automatically
register women for the draft.
Heck, they don't even got to do it.
They're forced to do it.
The committee approved the bill with a vote of 22 to 3. The strengthening the joint force and defense
workforce section of the NDAA says the military selective service act would be amended to require
the registration of women for selective service. Since 1917, when the selective service was created,
all men ages 18 to 25 have been required to register. However, there has not been a draft
since the Vietnam War.
Must Read Alaska reports,
in 2017, Congress created a commission to study the matter of adding women to the draft.
The commission's final report required
by the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act
recommended that women be drafted.
This is a necessary and fair step
making it possible to draw on the talent
of a unified nation in a time of national emergency,
the 11 commissioners wrote in their final report.
The effort has failed in previous years, versions of the NDA,
but this year it looks like it may pass.
Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island, a Democrat,
has been one of the biggest advocates of adding women to the Selective Service.
Republicans, including Rep. Chip Roy of Texas and Senator Mike Lee of Utah,
have been pushing back forcefully.
I'm with Democrats on this one.
I am 100% with with Democrats on this one. I am 100% with the Democrats
on this one. I don't understand why Republicans think it's okay that women get civic privileges
without civic responsibilities. And so, so long as we have a 19th Amendment, women must be drafted.
And I will add, drafting doesn't mean combat. Doesn't mean you put the women on the front line.
They can do tons of different jobs.
Like janitor.
Or chef.
PR.
PR officers.
They can do daycare.
Right?
They can do all of these jobs.
And not fight.
I think women going to combat would be a terrible idea.
And I think they're, you know, potentially, yeah, in wartime, maybe you need more bodies to do sort of administrative stuff at home.
But generally, I think drafts are for boys.
And I think it's a bad idea to mix women in because they'll just end up competing for the right to be in combat.
And that's a bad idea because it risks everyone's life.
Telling women that they have to, like, machine parts for tools does not mean the debate. Like, I don't I don't I don't like these arguments where
people say if X, then you are guaranteed to get women in combat. Like when we say women should
be required to engage in some kind of civic service in the time of national emergency.
Whether you want to have a debate over combat is still an entirely separate conversation.
And if women want the right to vote, then they are going to war.
And that means making making guns in factories.
That means driving transport vehicles, transporting domestically, maybe delivering cargo. Men can go and fight and
women can drive trucks, transporting weapons and munitions to military bases domestically.
I'd be happy to do all of that and I'd be happy to draft women to do it, but I don't think it
should be the military because I don't think afterwards they should be able to qualify for
the GI benefits. Like if you went to war, if you have seen combat, I think you should be treated
differently than someone that we intentionally said you have to do it, but you get to stay in a factory.
Like, that's a totally different thing.
I'm happy to set up like a civic service corps for women that they have to be drafted into,
but I don't think that they should be in the military because, again, the military comes
with benefits.
There's also a lot of, there is a lot of just inherent danger to women beyond what is dangerous
to men in the military, the kinds of things that they have to deal with as threats.
I mean, there's certain types of assault that men typically are not subject to.
There are, you know, the fact that people might go out of their way a little bit more
to save a woman than a man.
There's a number of reasons that this could be risky.
I actually really like the idea of a civil service corps.
Going back to Starship Troopers, you know, everybody memes on the movie, but the book
is serious.
And I think that the idea of citizenship and service is a good point.
That said, I do worry that if we have a draft for
women, part of the reason
we were so successful in World War II is that
women were able to fill the roles that men
typically had back home while the men
were over fighting. And I would worry that
if we drafted them directly into the military,
we wouldn't have the workforce we need.
I'm going to give a shout out to Josie, the Redhead Libertarian,
who said, here are the names of the sluts for war who want to conscript your daughters for World War III
because they know your sons won't be enough to satisfy their blood lusts.
Wow.
Tell us how you really feel, Josie.
Nope, I'm still with Democrats on this one.
You, I do, I reject the notion that there are second class citizens in this country.
Men should not be forced to die for other people
who don't have the same responsibilities.
I reject it, I write.
Now, that being said,
if you want to negotiate rights and privileges
and how civic duty operates,
then we can have that conversation.
I reject Maisie Hirono and Kristen Gillibrand
and Jean Shaheen, who I'm assuming is a woman, they have no right to vote for war if they're not subject to it.
So my position is so long as we have a 19th Amendment and we have female politicians who can vote on when I have to die, I say, so do they. Now, unfortunately, and let's be real, all of the members of Congress are too old to be drafted.
So even the men are voting for young men to go and die for them.
And I think that's wrong.
And I love that back in the early 1900s, there was like an attempted amendment that said,
if you vote in favor of war, you volunteer for it automatically.
I like that.
That's what I want to see. I want see this how about we say this okay no women for the draft compromise no one for the draft but any politician who votes for any kind of war provision
has volunteered for it yeah in ancient rome senators led armies you know hell in the medieval
period bishops led armies and these guys are sitting back in dc in a nice air conditioned office while there's a bunch of guys my age and younger going and getting shot at in the Middle East, in the desert.
I like the idea of forcing them to go.
When was the last time Congress voted on war, though?
Like, that becomes—if you have that amendment, it's not that we shouldn't.
I would be interested in it.
But, theoretically, they're all just going to be like, okay, we'll never vote for war again.
Obama, send us in. Don't say anything. Right. And that's why I'm saying right now,
the funny thing is you have Republicans arguing. Oh, this is so annoying. When the suffrage
movement happened, there was a massive movement against it because women did not want civic
responsibility like fire brigade and military service. And so they said, no way,
dude. And so the compromise was spineless, weak men decided to grant privileges to women and
create and push men into a second class citizen status where they have to fight and die for people
who can vote for them to go fight and die. I don't care if you're a man or woman. I don't care if
it's based on gender lines or any other lines. The idea that one group of people gets to vote
for the other group to go fight and die, I think is wrong. And so whether
it's the rich and the poor or men and women, I reject that. And this is the problem we've always
had first in the country is that the poor people are used as cannon fodder. Rich people, if their
kids got drafted, they would pay to get someone else to go do it. I don't like that as well. But
to be fair, at least it's like a free market thing going on. You know, some rich dude says, you go take my son's place.
I'll give you a ton of money.
And they could say no.
And they just say yes, because they want the money.
So it sucks.
But it's not as coercive.
You're offering someone something in exchange with this and women's suffrage.
They basically said all women can now vote to go send men to die on their behalf.
OK, now hold on.
Men used to choose to go fight wars on behalf of the women they cared about, their children, their families.
Now you've got crackpot psychopath, just sociopath individuals in Congress and men and women alike voting to send people to go die for what?
Ukraine for war, for oil in Syria?
So what's pissing me off right now is Republicans being like, we will not allow our daughters to be drafted.
But they will get all of the rights.
They will get all of the privileges.
And they have no responsibility.
Except taxes, I guess.
I'm like, nah.
Like, you want equality?
You get equality.
Right now, it's going to be really weird, too, because a bunch of, like like gen z women are probably going to be on the republican side on this one you know yeah well
you see all the memes that come up where it's like you know women required to be in draft and women
and they're all it's like feminists and they're all making sandwiches or whatever like i don't
think women always think through the things that they're asking for in terms of legislation. I think that this idea
that they, you know, they already have the option to go into the military. They already have the
option to try and be a part of civil service. Mostly what's happening is they're saying,
well, we want to be allowed to, but we don't actually feel any obligation to contribute to
these communities. There was a poll done a couple of years ago in 2021 that found the majority of Democrats and 18 to 39 year olds
were in favor of women being drafted. So this may be a hot take, but I just don't think there
should be any draft at all. Ever, unless it's like we're being attacked. I'm sorry, but if if we
need to go over there, we don't we don't we never need to go over there. We can stay here. That is
an option. We have the greatest air force in the world. We also have the second greatest air force in the
world. It's in our Navy. We don't need to go anywhere. We can stay here. We do not need a
draft. We have an all volunteer army. If we have that, I don't see any reason to have a draft. If
we get attacked, if Russia or China come here, sure. But that's why we need a draft. So the
issue of whether we need a draft is unrelated to the fact that we have corrupt government officials that would exploit a
draft to go send people to die so they could, I don't know, build more weapons and secure oil so
they can expand their businesses or something like that. We should be focusing on securing
our borders, bringing jobs back here, having strong community, building families. Instead,
you get the Democrats. And it's really obvious why they
want to draft women. World War Three is a coming baby. Ukraine is spiraling out of control. Russia
seems to be winning. Now Russia's offering up a ceasefire because they've secured the Donbass.
And then you've got the you know, the Red Sea is lighting up. Iran is on the verge of lighting up
China and Taiwan. And the Democrats have plans to go to war.
Trump and the MAGA Republicans,
the, you know, whatever,
the populist right wing don't want to go to war.
So they're like, we don't need this.
We don't. But I will just point out,
we cannot, you cannot,
you just, you can't have a society
where you create classes of privileges and rights.
It doesn't work.
It's going to break down.
You cannot have social services and open borders.
You cannot tell people you can come here and get free stuff.
And the people who were born here, who have paid into the taxes their whole lives and their family did, will now not have access to the housing market.
These things do not work.
There has to be balance in your responsibility and the rights and privileges you have access to.
I think part of it is that people look at men and women as interchangeable. They're like a
body to body. Just put it in uniform and it's the same thing. So I would imagine that these
Democrats are looking at the numbers. I'm willing to bet that when they look at combat numbers and
women, female infantry, I will I would bet a large sum of money that a
strategist comes in and says, when you get a group of men, you will see like, here's how here's,
here's, if we've got 30 enemy combatants in this area, you will need X amount of men
with this machinery to effectively control and pacify that area. With women,
you're going to need X cubed or something like that. You're going to need X times X.
You will need substantially more men. The efficiency of female units of comparable
numbers will be minus 30 percent. And the response from Democrats is so we need more women than
right. Sending wave
after wave of your own men into combat to get the job done. More cannon fodder gets the job done.
They don't care about the human lives behind it. All they know is, look, 100 men get the job done
or 150 women. OK, get more women. That's it. Load it up. And they're complaining about this
recruitment shortfall is the reason why they need to do it. Hey, look, man. I think this is the fastest way
to get Gen Z voting Republican.
I don't see how Gen Z women
can stand by the Democratic Party,
but apparently Democrats
love women in the draft.
I do think if Trump hammers this,
like, it's over for Biden
because the only people
affected by this are Gen Z.
Literally nobody else
is affected by a draft right now.
Well, Gen Z women.
But men too. But they're already
screwed. Exactly, yeah. But I think a lot of...
If you came in and you were like, hey, let's just get rid
of it entirely or let's restrict it to we have to
be under attack here at home, I think you'd get all the
Gen Z men too. Gen Z male feminists
being like, but I'm fighting for your right to be
drafted. Come on, this is for you.
That's going to be Harry Sisson all over.
Harry and Chris, they're going to be like, no, you guys
don't understand. It's going to be great. You're going to get all sorts
of college benefits and stuff.
And die. And they're going to be like, you're going to learn how to use
guns, which we want to ban.
It's like, okay.
Yeah, you get college benefits by force.
I would love to see both of those two drafted.
That would be very funny. Harry's
21. He's first in line.
He's not literally, I think they go back 18-year-olds first, but he's like right up there.
And, you know, look, if Trump wins right now, Harry's good.
If Harry is successful and Biden wins, I mean, it's what is it, 18 to 26, I think?
25.
Are you sure it's 25?
That's what it said on the article.
I know, I think that might be wrong.
It's 26 now.
Damn it, I'm on the article. I know. I think that might be wrong. It's 26 now. Damn it.
I'm in the range.
Right.
And so that means if Biden wins another term and war really does break out and the draft's coming, oh, Harry's on the front line.
And I mean it.
Now, he'll get protection.
He'll get special protection.
But they will absolutely force him onto the front lines.
No question.
It's going to be like I described like Edge of Tomorrow with Tom Cruise.
He's going to be like, but I'm just like a social media influencer guy. And they're gonna be like, yup. And we need you to sell this. We need young people to not flee to
other countries, to not dress up like women. Well, that doesn't work anymore. Now they're saying,
if you are a trans woman, you are still male and you are still required to be signed up for the,
signed up for the draft thing. Yeah. And it's funny. And they said, if you were a male and you are still required to be signed up for the draft. Yeah, and it's funny. And they said if you are a female who is transgender and you are a trans man,
you are still ineligible for the draft.
Interesting.
Yeah, Miller doesn't care.
They're just like, dude, if you're a dude, you're in.
We don't care what you think you are.
Is there any person born female who transitions to being male who is lobbying to be in the draft?
I would love to see that.
There probably are a few of them. It's all Democrats that are to be in the draft. I would love to see that. There probably are a few of them.
It's all Democrats that are supporting women in the draft.
Well, women have to support women, you know, right into the draft.
There are a bunch of trans men who are in the military.
Like, it happens.
And the military actually offers, I'm pretty sure this was a big controversy.
They cover a ton of gender transition stuff.
So they're all about it.
I don't know, man.
Look, we got this fractured fragmented
society i can't i can't call it a country anymore so i don't even know what's going on
i i know if it comes to it i'm joining the air force like if if we if world war three kicks off
i'm joining the air force i'm going for a pr role i do not want to be fighting in europe for people
who would not fight for me here air force Force, dude. Space Force. Yeah, Space Force.
Because then you're going to be in
one of the domestic military bases looking
at computer screens. Granted.
Just hang out in Colorado. Granted.
For the Air Force, a lot
of the drone operators, it's all remote anyway.
It's the cushiest basic
training. It's the cushiest salaries.
I'll take it. How old are you?
I'm 26. Ah, you're fine.
Yeah, if it comes in the next six months, I'm screwed.
That's right. You better just cross your fingers Trump wins.
Yeah, you're making this a hard
bargain for me. Now I'm voting for my
life. If this passes,
I'm telling you right now, the next president
is going to matter even more so with Russia and
Cuba again. With everything that's been
destabilized around the world with the weak leadership
in this Oval Office and a actually part of the uniparty that's warmongers to begin with,
this is going to matter to women of military age at that point.
This is going to matter to women who want to get married, want to settle down, become
a mother, who are now potentially going to have that ripped away from them from a Uniparty
who wants to go to war for profit.
And this is going to be a huge red wave for Trump in November to undo this.
This is exactly what's going to happen.
That's my prediction.
If this passes, Trump wins.
Instead of winning, he'll win the popular vote.
Not only will he win the electoral college,
he'll win the popular vote by several million votes if this passes
because Gen Z women are going to go to college or want to get married
or want to become mothers.
They're not going to go to war.
Oh, is it going to pass?
I do not see how this doesn't pass.
I don't know. Manchin, maybe? Well, didn. Oh, is it going to pass? I do not see how this doesn't pass. I don't know.
Manchin, maybe?
Well, didn't he vote for it in the committee?
What, really?
I thought he did.
Oh, you're right.
He did vote for it.
He did.
He did.
But you know who we might get is Fetterman, because that man is a loose cannon at this
point.
No one can predict what he's about to do.
No way, dude.
He's for it 100%.
He's going to be like, Israel needs our support.
That's true.
Yep. Ladies, Israel needs to support. That's true. Yep.
Ladies, ladies, line up!
I think the other problem, though, is like
we're going to draft basically
anyone who has a potential to save our
declining fertility rate, right? Like, we're going to be like
we could grow the population,
but we could also
blow them up. So maybe that's a good idea.
Like, I don't understand what the long-term
thinking on this is at all. You can't just keep being like but feminism this is going to force the narrative
are we are we not biologically different this is going to force that narrative the feminists that
have been trying to you know carve out women's rights for all these years are now being faced
by being canceled as women you know rather be sports are now being forced into the military
this is going to force the argument are are we biologically different? Not far as rights, but far as biology. And this
is going to force that fight. This is going to force them to answer because he just said
that they're already saying, if you're born a dude, sorry, you can't identify as a woman in
the military, you're still a dude. So I mean, it's already forcing that narrative to come to light.
And at the end of the day, I think common sense is going to prevail. And it's gonna be a red wave
for Trump. And I think we're winning our friend over over here because I'm sorry. You know, when you make
it about whether I live or die. Yeah, I get it. Now, hold on. Hold on. I just understand the draft
doesn't stop at 26. Oh, yeah. It's just you're you're first in line. So the way it would work
is they're going to go for the 18 year olds and it's going to be I think how they do it is like
a lottery. They'll they'll they'll go by social security number and pull random numbers.
Right. And then they go up in
age by requirement. So getting
to 26 would be really
crazy. I mean, if World War III happened,
okay, but here's the good news.
If you turn 27
and Biden is still
president, oh, dude, line
up. 27 is not far off from the
rest of them. So if they go through the standard batch,
and I got bad news for you, fertility rates are down,
so there's not nearly as many Gen Z available
as there were, say, Millennials or Boomers or Gen X.
And we're hilariously out of shape.
Oh, yeah, yeah, but that doesn't matter.
They're going to be like, dude, let me tell you,
it was really amazing.
The story of the fall of the samurai in Japan,
are you familiar with it?
Yep.
That's exactly why they don't care
if you're in shape.
For those that aren't familiar,
there used to be,
societies used to have a warrior class
that were extremely politically powerful.
And in Japan, you had samurai.
You're born, you are trained,
you're a fighter.
It's really difficult for someone
to be a master fighter
until they invented reloadable cartridges
or rifles that can be reloaded
rapidly with the cartridge. And so they show up. Western groups come to East Asia and say,
who cares about these guys? I can give you this. And like, what does it do? You can literally give
it to a farmer and they can point it, click, and you win the war. All of a sudden, Samurai started
losing all of their political power. So Gen Z, they make all these jokes on TikTok.
They're like, we are so incapable of doing this.
We're out of shape.
We're lazy.
We hate America.
Oh, they don't care.
It's like the gulag for you, solitary confinement, or point this over there.
I think the main reason they don't want to use the draft, though, Vietnam proved a disaster.
The stories of like young men landing on the shores and firing into the air instead of at the enemy because they didn't know.
They were just soft.
They were cookie dough.
They couldn't handle it.
Some people went there and they were a little too far.
And there were a lot of good dudes who knew what they were doing and wanted to be there.
That's why they need voluntary service.
There's an interesting thing about coercing someone to make the choice still puts in their mind they've made this choice.
But you've got to do it in the right way.
Forcing someone to the draft and saying you have no choice makes them hate where they are, causes panic.
So what the U.S. government likes to do is, using the Federal Reserve, controlling interest rates to spike the economy if they need to increase troop levels.
So when the economy gets bad, young people join up because they need money and they're desperate.
That's usually how they do it.
It's not working so much these days because I don't think we have a country.
I think it's completely shattered.
Government's gone rogue in every imaginable way.
The president is crapping his pants on stage, I think.
Yeah, I don't know.
I also think people don't really, like there is a lot of anti-military
sentiment in the u.s so i think there's a level of like at one point in your in america's history
if you had been like buying money or this opportunity like there's something honorable
about being in the military whereas now people feel like you know this is just something you do
to be the world's police first and a lot of people hate the police already i can i can comment pretty
directly on it i enlisted in the National Guard when I was 19,
and I got medically separated four months later
for anxiety and depression disorder.
Wow.
And then when I got off medication two years later,
I had the opportunity to rejoin.
That was, I think, 2022.
And I had the Lore Lodge thing going,
but it wasn't huge yet.
I could have gone back, and I looked around, and I thing going, but it wasn't huge yet. I could have gone back and I looked around and I was like,
I want so badly to do what my ancestors did to serve this country,
to be there for my fellow man,
but they're going to send me to die in a desert or they're going to send me
to die in a tundra and it's going to be far away from home.
You know, my family will never know what happened and what's the point.
Like, no, if you, if we get invaded, I'll sign up. I will in a heartbeat, but you know my family will never know what happened and what's the point like no if you if we get invaded i'll sign up i will in a heartbeat but you know i gotta be honest
i made that point a while ago like the draft makes a lot of sense when the implication was
defending this country you would go to the young men say look they're attacking us you do this or
we all die i get that i don't know if I agree right now with defending some of these crackpot far left places that abuse kids and have brought in noncitizens and are releasing criminals. It's like if New York got invaded, I'd be like, wow, that sucks. foothold in the executive branch through Trump or someone who can deal with the corruption,
send in federal investigators to New York to weed out the crime bosses that are running their
government, I would be thrilled. I'd be happy. I do not think national divorce is a good thing.
I do not think that peaceful national divorce is possible. So we must avoid that in every way imaginable and resist.
And there are tons of people advocating for it.
And I'm like, that ends in civil war.
So I'm curious what you guys think about this,
because this is an idea I've been puttering around with for like 10 years.
Instead of a national divorce,
we were taught about federalism as layer cake federalism,
that there are layers of government.
You have your local, you have your state, you have your federal.
What I was wondering is,
what do you guys think about the idea of adding another layer, taking regions that
are culturally similar to one another, like the Appalachians go from Pennsylvania on down to
maybe Tennessee. And then you could also do Cascadia. You could do the Rockies states. And
these groups of people who are culturally rather similar would be able to have the laws that make
sense for their cultural groups. And then the federal government would just be responsible for like the
interstate war and diplomacy.
Yeah.
The problem is a diffuse government,
but the problem is people in Oregon are at odds with themselves.
Yeah.
Let them switch to Idaho.
Well,
yeah,
I agree.
Let the States redraw their lines.
It's not like we're a country and we're not a bunch of different countries.
We're one country.
We can make it work. I think the political divisions have reached critical mass.
I don't see a reality where you can go to someone who's clearly like, look, man,
we have probably 70 videos of Biden. His brain is broken. The things he has said and escalated throughout the years getting worse and worse and worse.
And there are people who will pretend like it's not happening.
You can't work in a factory together, let alone vote functionally.
You've got someone who's going to be staring at a wall collapse or a fire raging.
You're in a warehouse.
Big old fire bursts. And you say, help me get the fire extinguisher it's it's i need your help and
they're gonna go there's no fire and you're gonna be like dude there was a massive fire
we can put it out right now no there isn't i will never agree with you no matter what and
then you're like okay i'm leaving i need to get out of this building because they will not help me
yeah i think divisions are are really serious.
And I like your idea of regional allianship on some level.
I think regional management and culture like culturally more homogenous coalitions would be good.
I just think that at this point, rather than adding a layer of government, why don't we see that within our elected leaders that we have already? Like what kind of partnerships do you see between regions right now?
Because it's potentially they could sort of make this happen on their own.
You could have coalitions in the House.
You could have governors who have a specific regional conference they attend.
Like they could do this.
They just opt not to right now.
The idea in my mind is that it would hopefully defeat the two-party system that you would get to a point where because republicans in you know let's say the uh the republic of appalachia because those
republicans aren't going to have the same priorities as republicans in uh the midwest
it's not the the republican party is going to have a much more difficult time because you've
made everything a lot more personal a lot more local for example you know you guys have coal
right a lot of coal we have a lot of coal we have a lot of oil a lot more personal, a lot more local. For example, you know, you guys have coal, right?
A lot of coal.
We have a lot of coal.
We have a lot of oil, a lot of shale.
We also have railroads.
Who is we?
Pennsylvania.
Oh, sorry.
I should have said that.
In West Virginia, you guys have a whole bunch of industries that work for you.
Same thing goes down the entire country.
Every state tends to have something that, you know, works for them.
A lot of the Appalachian states, it's the energy industry.
It's oil, it's coal,
it's shale. Those are the things that matter to us. But Pennsylvania can't make any movement on
fracking, on transitioning to fourth generation nuclear, on fixing our rail system, which is the
most robust in the country. If we could just modernize it, we can't do any of that because
the government's like, sorry, people in California decided you can't frack.
Right. I agree. This is the problem with globalization. The idea that a singular
entity can rule over every region uniformly doesn't make sense. California gets a disproportionate
amount of votes because of illegal immigrants in the first place, but then they get extra
congressional seats. They've lost one in this past census. Then they say the people of California
don't like nuclear energy, so Nebraska can't have it. And it's like, why is New York, Illinois, and California, and Oregon, I guess, and Washington voting that large, sparsely populated states can't have a nuclear reactor?
I mean, I'm not saying they literally can't.
I'm just saying that's the general idea.
If you're in Wyoming, the population there is, what, like 500 and something thousand?
They barely have a congressional seat as it is.
You've got tons of empty space where you can do a bunch of awesome stuff, but they ban these things. The population there is like 500 and something thousand. They barely have a congressional seat as it is.
You've got tons of empty space where you can do a bunch of awesome stuff, but they ban these things.
And right, like fracking and stuff, they pass these laws controlling all of it, but they don't even live in these places.
It should be left to the states, but the federal government keeps.
This is the problem with large federal government.
And with fracking specifically, that's such a local problem.
Like if a community says, all right, we're going to take the risk. We're going gonna try and make sure we have all the safety in place and we want to frack here there is no reason that people in shale country pa need to listen to what people in
los angeles think about that the people in los angeles will never be affected by somebody fracking
in carbon county pennsylvania it will never happen so why do they care i think you know i was
thinking about it pennsylvania you guys got cheesesteak.
Do they got cheesesteak in Western PA?
Yeah, the sandwiches change a little bit.
Primanti's is kind of a, they got a different format over there.
West Virginia has deep fried dandelions.
What?
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, I'll try it.
It's pretty good.
Is it good?
Is it particularly, I know it exists.
It's like an old Appalachian recipe.
I've never seen it.
How common is it?
You won't see it in any of the retail restaurants like at Permanente's,
but some of your mom and pops, you can get some of your smaller towns.
It's actually quite common.
It's pretty good.
Yeah.
Is it just like dough on a dandelion fried?
Yep.
I heard it tastes like fried mushrooms.
It does?
Yeah, look at that.
So dandelions are actually brought here by the European colonists
as food and medicine.
Really?
Yep.
It grows crazy fast
and you can eat them.
And they're all over the place.
Tradition remains up in Appalachia.
So, you know,
you got different conventions and customs.
You're from PA,
you had no idea.
And of course,
Chris over here has never heard of a cheesesteak.
Of course I have.
Oh boy.
I was down in San Antonio last
week for Unsubscribe podcast and they had some cheesesteaks
on the menu and I was like, I'm not going anywhere near this.
That's how I feel about pizza outside of the northeast.
Yeah, I don't, any, outside of 50
miles of Pennsylvania, unless it's like
the person running it grew up in South Philly.
No. I can respect
that people in New York
and the northeast think their pizza is better.
Don't do this to me, Tim.
Don't do this.
Don't do this, Tim.
What?
But Chicago.
Yes.
Being from Chicago, we have,
and I'm respecting New York over here,
and you guys can't handle it.
I would just call Chicago pizza different.
Yes, it is different.
However.
It's special.
Deep dish pizza is not real Chicago pizza.
That's a lie.
And you guys have not ever had real Chicago style pizza, which is a firmer, medium.
It's not a thin crust.
It's thicker.
It's not floppy.
Okay.
It's square cut.
I think people call it like, what is it called?
Like the four states.
It's called Sicilian over here.
That's not Sicilian.
No, we're not talking about Sicilian.
The square cut.
Is it more like what they do in St. Louis?
No, Sicilian is a thick bread.
Is it more like what they do in St. Louis?
St. Louis is a specific style of pizza.
Traditional Chicago pizza is flat.
The dough doesn't rise on the ends.
The crust on the edge is crunchy, and it's cut into squares.
And so it's very different from New York.
But I will tell you this.
I had pizza in Michigan, and it was like someone put a bathroom garbage on my plate and i
was offended yeah it was like it was like a piece of toast with ragu on it don't you dare some places
pizzas are different i mean this is i've talked about this before but the uh uh dominoes and pizza
huts spread throughout the middle part of america because the immigrants weren't there making
traditional pizza i can't i i can imagine that in you in Michigan, they do a lot of other nice stuff,
but this is not one of their elements. It reminds
me, though, this stereotyping of deep dish
pizza as the only type of pizza of the
pepperoni roll in West Virginia. Because if you're like,
what is the food of West Virginia? You see that everywhere.
But there's actually a ton of stuff. It's just
that's sort of what the... See, don't knock
the pepperoni roll. Adrienne Curry...
But it's not the only thing. Adrienne Curry
knows exactly what we're talking about.
Chicago thin crust tavern style pizza is great too.
Tavern style pizza.
I'll give it a shot.
I'll give it a shot for you.
And I got to tell you, for anybody who's never been, if you go there, you got to find a place
that will do a pizza with giardiniera on it.
Giardiniera.
That's the word.
I was, I was, it was so weird for me when I went to New York for the first time and
I tried ordering a roast beef sandwich, a giardiniera.
And the guy said, with what?
And I said, can I get a roast beef sub with giardiniera?
And he goes, he's like, we do heroes.
And I'm like, I don't know what that means.
It's a long sandwich.
And I'm like, oh, okay, well, give me giardiniera, roast beef and cheddar.
And he's like, I don't know what that word is.
And I, giardiniera, oh, man.
I feel like I've heard the word, but I don't know what it is. It is like
carrots, jalapenos, cauliflower in oil. Oh, OK. I've had it. I just didn't know it's what it was
called. You go to pot bellies. They call it hot peppers because nobody knows what it is. How about
we go back, talk about the news? Here's a story from the post-millennial Canadian study worries
about under anticipated U.S. civil war ignores growing resentment at home.
The potential for civil war is mentioned in the list of eight under-anticipated disruptions that decision makers may need to consider more thoroughly than the survey results indicate.
Ladies and gentlemen, foreign countries, okay, fine, it's Canada, so, you know, take it for what it is, are concerned about a U.S. civil war.
If you dig deep into the subterranean internet files of the Canadian government,
you might find a link to Policy Horizons Canada,
a group that you might surmise is attached to Global Affairs Canada,
but no, it is affiliated with the Federal Public Service.
I'm going to wag my finger at David in the Postmillennial for writing a narrative story.
Just tell me the news.
The posting of a recent study titled Disruptions on the Horizon might have been missed by the public had an article not been posted to Politico declaring Canada's big worry a U.S. civil war.
Considering you guys are writing me a story, I'm actually going to go to Politico instead.
Canada's big worry, a U.S. civil war.
This is from just a few days ago.
They say, and they also write a narrative. In a spring report titled Disruptions on the Horizon, a quiet office known as Policy Horizons Canada proposed American civil war as a scenario that Ottawa should consider preparing for.
This hypothetical was talked into the middle of a 37-page document, which sketched the possibility in 15 spare words.
U.S. ideological divisions, democratic erosion, and domestic unrest escalate, plunging the country into civil war.
You know, Canada, they must watch the show.
Yeah, I was going to say, if they're saying it's if they're underprepared for it,
I don't know if we've got our viewership in Canada going.
I think that this is ridiculous.
No, I'm saying whoever wrote this must watch it. Sure, but the post-millennial is saying they're saying it's underanticipated.
I don't think that's true here on Timcast.
You know, so I just want to point this out considering everyone says that i'm the guy
who's always talking about civil war that means anyone else whoever talks about it is a fan of
the show that's yeah that's a fair point yeah absolutely that's the only only explanation
so considering canada has this uh concern they're going to say how seriously should people take this
on the other side of the 49th parallel policy arises report surveyed hundreds of experts and government officials about disruptive events that
Canada might do well to prepare for. Then the authors classed those scenarios based on the
likelihood they will occur. American Civil War ranked as an improbable but ultra high impact
event. Other scenarios in that general category included the proliferation of homemade biological
weapons, the rise of antibiotic resistant pathogens leading to mass death and food shortages,
and the outbreak of World War III.
You know, I suppose when you add them all together,
it's looking like you got a really good probability
of bad thing happening.
So take your pick, and I hope you all are prepared.
I think it's weird that progressive governments
and progressive political parties
have to fearmonger their voters into supporting them.
I think that's what I see over and over again.
I was thinking about that with some of the speeches I was listening to from Biden or, you know, on the campaign trail.
And it's always just you have to vote for us because everything's about to fall apart and we are the only ones who can fix it.
And it's critical. In fact, it's so critical it might even be too late.
So you've got to act now.
Like, it's like the craziest sales pitch of all time that is completely dependent on fear and compliance.
Because they can only run on fear and compliance because they don't have any success stories to build upon.
I mean, to your point, Joe Biden, what could he run on in re-election other than,
you know, Trump's a threat to democracy.
You vote for me to stop him.
That's all they got.
He's accomplished nothing.
You know, hyperinflation, the stabilization of the world,
entering World War III with Russia and Cuba with their naval fleet now.
There's nothing he can tout that he did other than destabilize the world
and cause inflation and cause a lot of people to leave the workforce
because they couldn't even afford to live anymore.
And, you know, they paid him to stay home.
They paid him not to work.
And then they can't afford to go back to work anymore.
It's just sad to see all this going on.
And he can't do anything but say,
vote for me because the other guy's the boogeyman.
That's all they have.
Whether it be Trudeau, whether it be Biden,
it's all the radical left has.
Vote for me to stop the boogeyman.
Yeah.
It makes you wonder when Trump is no longer eligible
to run for office,
like if he serves a term and runs out of terms,
what will they talk about?
Where's the off ramp?
That's what, you know, Phil often says, Phil Abati, he says, where's the off-ramp?
Of all that remains?
Of all that remains.
Where's the off-ramp?
With the ideological divisions happening in this country, with this election bubbling up, they're trying to put Trump in prison.
Trump may very well end up in prison in only a matter of weeks.
Where's the off-ramp?
How does this country not devolve into at the very least starting off with
collapse of the federal government
i mean if it did collapse we could just go back to state governments i guess
that's i i see that here here here if if something were to happen i would imagine that
the likeliest scenario come November dispute over the election,
both sides claiming they won happened in 2020. Both sides claim they won and neither side will
be willing to accept at any degree. I don't think people understand how wild 2020 was.
I think the average person just ignored it. They watched the news and they heard Trump
claiming he won and they said, I don't know what's going on. Biden won. But what they didn't see was
say like Texas v. Pennsylvania. I believe it was 48 states involved in a lawsuit to the Supreme
Court over unconstitutional actions taken by Pennsylvania and several other states that went
for Joe Biden. Notably, that they changed their election rules outside of the legislative body, which violates the Constitution as to how elections are held. The Supreme Court refused to
acknowledge it. And what did we get? Well, I don't know. Trump supporters on January 6th.
January 6th. I don't think it was the apocalypse. It was a riot. These people didn't actually plan
for anything beyond walking in a building. And I don't think they even planned. I don't think they planned for walking in a building at all.
Seems like most of them didn't.
Yeah, they walked in a building and walked out.
Nothing happened.
Politicians got scared.
It was bad.
There's a lot of damage.
I don't like any of it.
I don't see this time around a de-escalation.
If something were to happen, the federal government already, we know that this guy from the DOJ goes and joins
the local DA's office in New York and prosecutes Trump and is now trying to put him in prison.
I don't think people are going to tolerate this. If we get a fracturing of confidence in the
federal government to a certain degree where, let's say Texas files a lawsuit again this time,
which seems very likely, the Supreme Court refuses to hear it.
So then Texas says we will not do this a second time. These are clear violations of the U.S.
Constitution. And if the Constitution is not being upheld by the Supreme Court, then it is void.
I don't know how if they get to that point immediately. I think it could take months where they're petitioning and petitioning and petitioning and saying, how many times do we
have to demand that the rules are actually upheld that we agreed upon?
And if you will not agree to these rules, you are telling me that you avoid the Constitution.
Yeah. So if Texas then says we are not going to cooperate with the federal authorities because they have not cooperated with us, they have broken the mutual pact.
It a lot of people go, oh, national divorce. Oh, it sounds good.
And then what happens when resource
battles begin then what happens when one state needs access to another state's uh or there's a
shared body of water or river then you start getting disruptions if that happens any kind of
national divorce scenario results in a civil war in the long run. Not immediately, but in the long run. I don't see a reasonable probability that
let's say Donald Trump wins. And Democrats just go,
well, shucks. You got us, Trump. It was a good run. We tried
our hardest, but we hereby accept the results. Never going to happen.
They didn't do that in 2016. They ain't going to do it now. The inverse is true. Joe Biden wins.
Ain't going to see Trump supporters saying saying you win. So I don't know exactly what happens, but I don't think that
Canada is wrong. And I do think when they say it's an improbable event, it's because too many people
are scared to suggest things that seem dramatic. But I don't see an off ramp an off ramp well i mean it's you're completely right
looking at the series of events and suggesting that you know it's not going to happen immediately
because that's that's what happened with the revolution that's what happened the civil war
i do have to say if whatever the next president is or the one after that is you know if the civil
war happens in the next eight years i'm gonna be so mad that a pennsylvanian president was
responsible for both of them um but like i just i look back at the american revolution and the civil war and what
led to them and it wasn't it wasn't bunker hill it wasn't lexington and concord it wasn't fort
sumter it was a decade of the people of america of the colony saying hey guys can we like rule
ourselves is that an option can we do that uh
we we have all these problems you guys are levying taxes on us we didn't ask you to come fight the
french here that wasn't our idea uh and now you're demanding we pay for your war what's going on and
also you promised us land west of the appalachians what happened to that and so americans went
i'm done if you're not gonna listen i'm done that's you're not going to listen, I'm done. That's actually slightly incorrect.
What happened was a year of the regulars massacring, killing Americans. Well, that too.
Then they said, okay, well, they've been killing us for a year.
I think we should probably tell them to screw off.
Very important point I bring up 50 billion times for everybody who's ever watched the show.
You've heard it already.
The Declaration of Independence was signed one year and one month after the war already started.
Finding fathers weren't stacking bodies because they were mad.
They were resisting every step of the way, turning this into an independent, like actually signing a Declaration of Independence.
It was only after the crown was steadfast in sending troops to kill Americans and the Americans were writing letters that finally the Founding Fathers got together and said, guys, this is not going to end.
We have no choice.
They had blockaded Boston.
New York didn't sign the Declaration of Independence because it was so controlled by the British.
Yep.
The funny thing, too, is depending on what you read, there's interesting stories about how some of the founding fathers, it was contested.
They even had the right to represent the states that they had come from and voted for independence or signing the Declaration of Independence. People were like, you don't speak
for us. There were a lot of loyalists. There was a declaration of dependence. People don't know this.
No joke. A group of loyalists wrote like a letter saying like, dude, legit, we do not want to do
this. We like the crown. Where we are now, it's, yeah, I mean, what, 10 years? We've, coming off
of 2008 with the financial crisis and the outrage over the big banks,
the Federal Reserve, this corrupt, broken system, the mass printing of money and foreign
war without declaration, the 2000s were bad.
We're going on two decades of mass general grievance that has gone unanswered.
Occupy Wall Street was protesting because of Obama.
No answer.
Well, maybe there was, Donald Trump. Occupy Wall Street was protesting because of Obama. No answer. Well, maybe there was Donald Trump. Occupy Wall Street, end of 2011 into 2012. Obama's president and he ends up winning.
People were still upset. Things did not change. The protests continued. Wars expanded. And then
you get a Donald Trump with nine million Obama voters
switching to the Republican Party. They destroyed Donald Trump. They cemented his feet and threw
him in the ocean. They were they weighed him down so he could not do his job. They accused him of
being a traitor to this country. They said he was a Russian spy. All of it fabricated.
Then in 2020, Biden wins. However you want to describe how he won, I'm saying he won.
He's in the White House.
Call it whatever you want.
You can say Trump convinced more people.
You can say whatever you want, but Biden ended up in the White House.
People have tolerated it so far.
I am very concerned, and I agree with the Canadians here.
I think the mistake they make, too, they always do this,
more than a literal concern about an 1861 style war
between the states who's anything about a war between states that doesn't make any sense what
likely is going to happen is a like the federal government collapses it'll exist they'll assert
authority and nobody will listen states like texas doesn't need to go to war with i don't know
california or oregon they're gonna say i don't care about you local regional areas might get
into conflicts though i think you'd see rural versus city
more than state versus state,
if anything. I agree,
but I do think the cities would be occupied in two
seconds. Oh, yeah, definitely. No question.
The cities would probably fall apart, actually.
The first thing that would likely happen is
rural areas would cease
major deliveries to strong urban areas.
New York is screwed.
It would take nothing. It would just be a few blockades of the interstate
by rural populations, and New York would starve.
And it's not even a wartime blockade.
It would be like,
when you've got a small town,
everybody's seen a speed trap, right?
That state highway that goes through a small town
where the speed limit goes from 55 to 20, like that.
And it's because of a small town there.
They call them speed traps.
Sometimes they are.
But the small town says we've got houses along this road because it was built as a supply.
Like people, it's like an outpost almost.
Don't speed through our town.
You're going to hit our kids.
Those towns put a checkpoint.
A single county sheriff could slow down deliveries to New York City.
A single county sheriff puts up a checkpoint in his county in a small town.
Trucks come by and he says, we are no longer getting support for these roads.
If you want to drive through here, it's a fee of $50 for every truck because we got
to pay this.
And it's very difficult to source the materials to fix this when we're seeing trade breakdown.
And the truckers say, there's no way I'm doing that.
Well, do you remember how effective the,
the Canadian trucker blockade was? And one of the effects was like,
we are not getting our deliveries on time.
Right?
So if a small town trucker was like,
I'm not doing this.
And a point of entry to a city was like,
we are also not participating or we're blocking this off.
Like it all falls apart.
It's a fragile codependent system that gets,
you know,
food supplies,
whatever to especially major cities, but from regions across the country to these major cities.
The urban populations tend to forget that they rely on the rural population for raw materials, and the rural population relies on them for finished goods.
The rural population doesn't need them for finished goods.
The urban population needs them for raw materials.
Let's jump to this segment, which is somewhat related.
This is a CNN segment.
Kyle Becker tweets, CNN gets absolutely owned trying to school Trump supporters that America is a democracy and not a republic.
This is really interesting.
It's a bit long, so we'll only play a little bit of it.
President Biden touts his reelection campaign as a fight to preserve democracy.
But if you ask some Trump supporters, the former president is not a threat to democracy because the United States is not a democracy.
I'm going to pause real quick and say everybody knows this, but we are not a democracy. We are
a constitutional republic with democratically elected representatives. What that means is you
send someone you think will do a good job to do the job because you're not an expert. Democracy
is when everybody votes on a thing. And then if they get the majority, it happens. CNN's Donio Sullivan spoke to some of those
supporters. What happens if Trump loses? I don't see him losing. I don't think he lost the last
election, to be honest. Do you think he's going to win? Yes, without a doubt. No doubt. What if
he doesn't this time? What happens to the country? We're in trouble.
We're in big trouble.
We're done.
If Biden talks about democracy, you know, saving democracy, they're the ones that are
killing democracy.
Obviously, there's a lot of criticisms of Trump, that he is bad for democracy, that
he's bad for American democracy.
We are a republic.
We're a republic.
We are not a democracy.
We're a representative republic, but we're not a democracy.
One thing we've been hearing at Trump rallies like this over the past few months is that America isn't really a democracy.
America isn't really a democracy. No, no, no, no, no, no.
They're not saying it's not really a democracy. They're saying it's quite literally not a democracy.
It's not a democracy. It's a republic.
It's not a democracy. OK, democracy is. It's not a democracy. Okay, democracy
is actually not as good as you think it is. But for centuries, America has celebrated its democracy.
Democracy is worth dying for. Democracy remains the definition of political legitimacy.
But some Republicans and pro-Trump media are pushing the idea that America is not a democracy.
The United States of America is not a democracy.
We are a constitutional republic.
The United States of America is not a democracy.
You don't want to be in a democracy.
We are not a democracy.
He didn't read the full quote there, but a democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding on what's for lunch.
A republic is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
We are a republic.
Is America a democracy?
America is a democracy.
It was founded as a democracy.
I've heard a lot of conspiracy theories.
I hear a lot of things out on the road.
Has he come from the democracy of Ireland?
And to the republic for which it stands.
One nation.
And if we want to go back to the roots of the country, one nation indivisible with liberty
and justice for all.
We had the under God later.
Yeah. But to hear Americans, people who would describe themselves as patriots, say that America is
not a democracy, that stopped me in my tracks.
You are hearing people say America is not a democracy because there are people around
Trump who want them to be saying that, who've been planting that narrative.
Is America a democracy?
I hate you as a history teacher.
Yeah.
I think we're a republic.
Yeah, we're a republic.
What's the difference?
I feel like democracy...
Oh, boy.
It's government control.
I don't see freedom in democracy.
I see freedom.
You don't need to do this, CNN.
There are much, much more well-informed people and finding some random Trump supporters.
I get it.
But you know what?
A lot of people do this.
They go to Times Square.
They go to Democrat rallies.
Yes.
A republic is like you have a collection of jurisdictions that have formed a cooperative
government with each other.
In this instance, you have states which have formed a federal government, which is to serve them. And that
is the Republic of the United States of America. A democracy would be a single body where the people
vote on things. And there can be different structures of that democracy. That's true.
But there's direct democracy and democracy typically involves the will of the masses.
And we do have referendums in some states. But the United States is a republic.
And that's why states each get two senators to represent the state.
You know what's kind of funny about it, too, is like the Athenians tried democracy.
And then the Romans looked at the Athenians and went, absolutely not.
Not doing that.
Doing something completely different.
We're going to take the simple part of that.
And then we're going to make it way more complicated and better.
It took like one generation for people to realize democracy is not a good idea at the
international scale.
I say we repeal the 17th Amendment and eliminate popular vote for federal senators because
the original idea was your local representatives would choose
who your senators are going to be
that go to the federal government.
And the idea was better men
would be chosen. The state
would be represented by people who were
chosen for the job.
And the argument was, I believe this was
like the beginning of the 1900s, end of the 1800s,
too many people were getting their
buddies in and it was corrupt, so we should turn it into a popular vote of the state.
The states will vote for who they think should represent their state. That's the pointless.
That's what Congress does. Congress represents the will of the people. The state's interests
are the state's interests. And this severed the average voter from their local representatives.
And now people seem to think that your federal congressman is going to clean up your state. Not going to happen. They might, however, get federal funding
for you. Let's play a little bit more. Honestly, the word democracy and the word republic have
often been used interchangeably. There isn't a meaningful difference between them. So much of
the warnings and criticism about Trump is that he is a threat to democracy,
that he is anti-democratic.
Absolutely. If they can convince people
that we don't have a democracy,
then it's okay that Trump is attacking democracy
because it doesn't really matter.
So why has democracy become a bad word?
Because it's being used in a way to change the flavor
of our country, which is a republic.
These words were used in different ways in the 18th century.
And it's true.
The found.
Oh, man.
I don't mean anything.
And I make them up as I go along.
They were used interchangeably in the 18th century.
That's why Benjamin Franklin went out of his way to make a point about the difference.
Right.
OK, great.
Yeah.
I'd like to give a really simple explanation of the difference between a democracy and a republic.
And a republic is Rhode Island has like a city and they get two senators.
California has very many and they have two senators because they are equally represented as state bodies in a republic system.
Now, a democracy would strip those senators away and you would vote purely by population.
What happens in places like this, California is a great example.
I love bringing this up.
When I went to meet the farmers during the drought,
they were not allowed to use the surface water for their crops because of democracy.
Because the way the vote worked on surface water was,
the millions of people who live in cities say, we vote to get the water.
And the people who live in the farmland in the rural area said, we vote to keep the water. And they went, unfortunately for you, you're 10%
of the population. We are 90. Majority rules. Welcome to democracy. So they took the water
away from the farmers. In a republic, California cannot outvote Rhode Island's interests.
They have to go to the federal government and compromise. And it is rather difficult. They have to negotiate with other states.
They have to, if we went full democracy, California, New York, and Illinois would form a
compact and say, let's just cut deals with each other and we own the country. And then it doesn't
matter where you live. If you're outside of those places, you don't have the population. And it
would be basically major urban centers and they would be in total control of everything everyone
else does.
We still have an element of that because you still have Congress.
But these people, I absolutely love how evil CNN is because I know for a fact that people put together.
They know they've done a Google search.
They Google searches.
They know what they're saying is a lie.
They know they brought on someone to do an interview who is lying because they think people are stupid.
They think the people who watch CNN are stupid.
And unfortunately, I have to agree, people who watch CNN are stupid.
No, I agree.
And, you know, for them to say, oh, this is just a narrative that Trump has planted with people around his rallies.
Well, it must be amazing that Trump has a time machine.
And he went back and got Ben Franklin's ear when a lady asked him when he was coming out of a meeting that what kind of government we have.
And he said, a republic republic if you can keep it.
So it's just amazing that Trump went back in time
and changed Ben Franklin's mind as well.
He is a time traveler.
If this country was founded as a democracy,
first of all, that's impossible.
If New York went to Georgia and said,
this will be a democracy, we will vote by popular vote,
they'd be like, what, You'll take our stuff from us.
Absolutely not. Not going to happen. In fact, so the first attempt at government was the
Confederacy, the Confederate States of America, and then, or the Articles of Confederation,
I should say, not the Confederacy. That was mis-
People knew what you were saying.
Right. It was the Articles of Confederation, and it didn't work. It was too weak. And so they said,
we want to create a stronger federal government. And then i believe it was the anti-federalists wanted the um the bill of rights they said we
want you to write down to guarantee you will not do these things to these things to us so the
constitution instantly got the bill of rights of which i believe originally there were 17
uh and they narrowed it down because they were like we don't need seven of these they're just
obvious within the document and then 200 years later the people did not agree with that
well they they uh combined many of them and changed the language on some of them they screwed
up the second amendment miserably and the the original first article was congressional uh i
believe it was congressional pay the first and second were congressional pay and apportionment
well one of my favorite things about the Second Amendment is that everybody's like,
oh, well, no, it means, you know, militia and the, you know, it's all, it's all very,
you're not understanding. It's not the unlimited right to bear arms. Alexander Hamilton didn't
even think they needed it because he thought it was so obvious, so clear in the articles
describing what Congress, the president and the Supreme Court are allowed
to do that they had no power to regulate firearms.
So Hamilton was like, I don't think we need this.
I do not think this needs to go in there.
And they ended up putting it in because they were like, well, he deserves the musical now
or I see.
Here's the thing.
Got Second Amendment, right?
Yeah, he was he was very pro gun, but at the same time, also pro-central banking.
Nobody's perfect.
That's what I learned from this conversation.
The original Second Amendment actually went on to say that, and the gist of it was,
you can have a gun even outside of the military.
But the issue was, they were concerned that it would actually
stop conscription so it said something like even if someone is an objector to war they still have
a right to keep and bear arms the concern was if we say the militia being required for a free state
the right to keep and bear arms cannot be infringed the implication is everyone can have guns because
they're going to fight in in're gonna be conscripted to
militia or military and they were like well no no no no no then we'll add even if you you know
object to conscription you can still have a gun too and then they went oh but that might be used
to make it so we can't conscript people in time of war take that out we're good and most people
don't realize this but if you look at the map of gun rights, we had a long period of no gun rights.
If you look at whether states issued permits, I mean, it wasn't until D.C. versus Heller where they said you can actually have a gun outside your house.
So there were a lot of states that were may issue states.
You'd apply for a gun.
They'd say, no, you can't have one and then one by one over the past you
know 10 years 20 years we have seen states go constitutional uh carry so now you have all
these states where it's like you can buy a gun and thanks to hunter biden and the doj we may
actually see the abolition of federal background checks i am i am thrilled with this is fantastic
it's gonna be so funny if that happens.
You'll be a hero
to the gun rights people.
They will paint pictures of him.
Isn't that funny
that he is potentially
going to be the face
of the Second Amendment movement?
He doesn't even want to be there.
It's so fascinating.
Or maybe he does.
I guess he's a gun enthusiast.
Hunter Biden lied
on a federal background check form
that he was not a drug addict
when he bought a gun
and that's what they got him on.
And that violates the Constitution, because the Constitution doesn't say that you have a right to keep your arms unless you do drugs. You can have your rights
curtailed through due process if they prove you're a drug addict and have convicted you of it.
And also, you have the right to not self-incriminate. So the government forcing you to
incriminate yourself for crimes if you want to get a gun is unconstitutional.
They are appealing Hunter's case.
I hope every single gun rights organization files an amicus brief in support of Hunter Biden and says the Form 4473 is unconstitutional and must be abolished.
I have some buddies at the GOA who I can talk to on Discord on the ride home.
Absolutely.
And then it may turn out that
hunter biden has his uh criminal conviction overturned he's free to go and he should be
and then no longer when you want to buy a gun do you have to fill out a federal form
we'll call it the hunter biden law we'll call it hunters hunters precedent and an amazing that
someone like hunter biden joe biden's son may actually be the very thing that turns the atf
from a government agency to a convenience store.
I always wondered when they were presenting his defense in that case, his attorney was like, well, he did not think of himself as an addict at the time.
So therefore he wasn't.
Didn't identify as an addict.
I wonder how many Americans have tried that defense and been told, shut up, like, go away.
You're the problem.
Like, why would it work for Hunter Biden?
Except for, I guess, he's special.
It's the most proof positive thing
I've ever seen of a two-tier justice system.
Like, the man is on camera committing
at least three different felonies.
And they're like, ah, we can't get him.
Michael Cohen admitted to grand larceny on the stand.
And they were like, eh, we don't care.
Who cares? We don't want to rush around. And they were like, eh, we don't care. Who cares?
We don't want to rush around.
I don't consider it a two-tiered justice system.
Like, is it two-tiered justice
when Russia, say, like,
captures an American and puts him in jail?
Would we call that two-tiered justice?
I don't think so.
So, like, Ukraine and Russia are fighting each other
when Ukraine captures a Russian
and then, like, they see a Russian guy, so they're like, quick, get him. And they grab him, they tie him and then like they see a Russian guy.
So they're like, quick, get him. And they grab him. They tie him up. Then they see Ukrainian
guy and they go, how's it going? We don't call that two tier justice. Democrats intending to
put Trump, his staffers, the people who have worked with him in prison. It's quite literally
just a political faction kidnapping their political opponents in plain view of the public
without real laws. I mean, Steve Bannon going to prison, what did he do? Contempt of Congress.
What was the issue? Trump said, executive privilege, don't hand over the documents.
And Bannon was like, okay, well, the president's having executive privilege on executive documents.
I can't hand them over. Then at the last minute, Trump said, no, you know what? Go ahead. And then
Bannon went, okay, we're good now. And they went, we don't care. You're too late. You're going to prison. And they convicted him. So it's not it's not a legitimate man. This fly is really killing me. It's not two tier justice at all. It's just police officers attempting to kidnap Donald
Trump and convince you it's OK. They did. Yeah. I mean, as you guys, as I said earlier,
I have never intended to vote for Trump, but this is that watching this happen has been like the
most terrifying thing of my adult life. The fact that they have just gone whole hog doesn't matter.
You know, Hunter Biden is getting off scot free. Meanwhile, Trump is going to prison for what I believe were
actually misdemeanors that were upgraded to felonies. He may go to prison. We don't know
what's going to happen, but I certainly think they'll try. You said you were going to, you're
still considering casting a protest vote. I would have gone constitution party at this point. That's
how far, that's how far we are. So what's big uh block to voting for trump if you know things are bad you'd rather i'll be
honest some of the biggest ones are are guns um i don't like his gun positions but again trump's
yeah i like his gun position uh banning bump stocks i didn't like the take the guns and
try them later i didn't like what that quote the guns and try them later, I didn't like. What?
That quote's not true.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, all right.
Well, not that one, but still, banning the bump stocks. And we fell for that, too.
And then we were talking about it like a couple weeks ago, and I was like, yeah, he did say,
you know, I like to ban the guns first and go to the courts later.
And then we pulled up the quote, and he was actually not, he was speaking, it was pulled
out of context.
Oh.
It seems like he was quoting someone else.
And he may have been saying something like, look, I really don't want to be the guy who says,
I want to get the guns first and then go to the courts later.
They're like, just clip that middle part.
It was clearly pulled out of context,
and we don't know what the full context was.
Yeah, that's a good point.
So not that one then.
But yeah, I was upset about the bump stock ban
because it was just stupid.
But they lost.
They did, eventually, yeah.
But that was Trump who led the charge on that.
Yeah, I think so, right?
I don't know.
If I remember correctly, he was the one who, after Vegas, was like, we gotta ban this we gotta get rid of these things because at heart he is a new yorker you know he is as new york as
it gets um so i think he still does have some of that in him honestly more than anything i just
don't think he's the man for the job i don't't think Biden is either, though. And that's what's difficult as a younger voter,
as a more independent-leaning voter,
is, like, I cannot imagine four more years of Biden,
but at the same time, I feel a weird sense of, like,
betraying my own values voting for Trump.
What values?
Again, it's the hardcore, like, Second Amendment absolutist,
the tariffs that he was running throughout.
Now, I will say his proposal to remove income tax entirely and replace it with tariff, I like that.
I don't like both.
That's Congress, though.
I know.
So that's the issue.
I look at him and there's nothing—
What's the issue with tariffs?
If you have income tax and tariffs, tariffs are just a tax on the American people.
If you have no income tax and you do have tariffs, well, now you're being taxed only on your consumption.
I'm fine being taxed on consumption.
How are tariffs a tax on the American people?
Because even if you're technically taxing the overseas producers, when it gets over here,
since the overseas producers are bringing things in, the American companies buying them have to pay more money to buy them,
and then they pass that cost on to us.
So just buy domestically produced products.
I would love to.
The problem is a lot of them, we don't have a lot of them.
Now, I'm, again, fully in favor of bringing manufacturing back, of bringing jobs back.
How do you do that?
I think Trump is the best option for that.
I do think that.
But how do you bring the factories back to the United States?
Lowering taxes. I think that if you were to lower taxes enough and you were to give people the correct incentives
without tariffs, I think you can do it.
You'd have to lower them to zero to compete with China.
That is fine.
Yeah.
I'm fine with that.
Get rid of the taxes.
15% flat tax on income, that's it.
Nothing else.
What if you penalized companies
that move their factories overseas?
God, I just...
That's the thing.
With that, it becomes the precedent of,
all right, well, how does this work?
How do we decide when a company is getting penalized for moving overseas?
How do we decide when a domestic company gets penalized?
You judge a tariff on their products to be imported.
All right.
So if an auto manufacturer moves...
You have me on my rear end here. You're beating me.
It's also funny because you said earlier...
This is what Trump did.
You also said earlier the libertarians, like you liked what the Mises were doing.
They were saying like, we should compromise. We should get some wins where we can.
And then you're also like, but, you know, even though Trump would provide me all these things, like I still wouldn't vote for him.
Like, the philosophy is contradicting for me.
It is. I'll admit it probably is a little contradictory um you know i think i think at this point everybody's
everybody's entrenched and i'm i'm having a hard time changing my paradigm in in 20 i think it was
2015 it might have been 16 michael moore had one of these one of the greatest speeches in modern
american modern american politics which was intended as an anti-trump, although all the Trump supporters did was they clipped the end out
and they presented what was the greatest Trump supporting speech of all time, where Michael
Moore said Donald Trump went into the office of the big auto manufacturers and he said,
if you move these factories out of the United States and send them overseas, I will charge
a 30 percent tariff on all of your goods and no one will buy
your cars ever again and michael moore said it was amazing no one had ever stood up to these big
corporations before like this and what he described as trump as the biggest fu in the history of the
world the human malta cocktail thrown into the machine. He then goes on to say, and they'll like it for a little while.
And then no, no.
And then people loved it.
Donald Trump put these tariffs in place.
And what did we end up seeing?
A lot of factories decided instead of like he's got he's got he's got to buy the balls.
If we try and make a widget here, it's going to cost us a dollar to make.
And then we're going to pay the government 30% on top.
If we make it in the U.S.,
it's going to cost us $1.20 with no tariff.
We save 10 cents per widget, make them domestically.
And it was really amazing when,
I can't remember which auto manufacturer it was.
They moved back up to Michigan.
There was an announcement of a $3 billion investment
back in like 2017 or 2018.
The moment Joe Biden gets in,
they cancel it, go back to Mexico. And so all those jobs instantly lost. Poor Michigan. Michigan
is experiencing a social collapse. What's happening in Detroit is really fascinating.
The reason why we got the Flint water crisis, Flint, Michigan has some of the most expensive water in the country.
And so Flint switched off from the Detroit lines into their own local river, which was
really bad. So people start getting like Legionnaire's disease. The reason Detroit
was so expensive is that if you have a water system that costs a million dollars per month
to maintain, it's static, that it costs ain't changing. Those pipes are there. Someone's got to run these services. Well, if you have 10 million people,
I'm not saying like they do in Detroit, but let's say you have 2 million people.
You can split that up. Everyone spends 50 cents per month. That's no problem. 50 cents.
Unfortunately, a million people leave. Everyone's costs double. Now it's a dollar. To be fair, it's actually much higher than this.
Everyone was spending like 30, 40 bucks on water.
And then as the population began to flee Michigan
because the auto manufacturer is left
and the Rust Belt is dying,
the static cost remains.
And so the cost per person goes up
every time someone moves out.
Eventually, you ended up with the Detroit metropolitan area
having the most expensive water in the country.
So Flint says, we can't afford this.
We are poor.
Shut it off and switch to Flint River.
And then everyone started getting sick, creating a massive crisis.
We built this massive system in Detroit.
It was beautiful.
And they've destroyed it because they allowed these companies to go to Mexico and China
to produce these products with slave labor.
The people in China, they're not getting paid. The Foxconn laboratories famously 10 years ago,
people were walking off the building in mass or threatening to walk off the building in mass
suicide because they were getting paid so little and they were forced to live in these like 16
person rooms and bunk beds and work like 12 to 14 hour days, barely getting any sleep. We shouldn't allow that. We shouldn't allow
companies to like it's basically slavery. They are going to countries where there are no laws
to govern human rights abuses so they can manufacture a product for 100 bucks and then
sell it to an American for a thousand. What that does is it extracts the buying power of the
American middle class and the American working class, sending it from regular working people slowly over time to the wealthiest Americans.
And the rest, a pittance, goes to the slave labor in Mexico, China, Indonesia and other places where they make your clothes, Cambodians and things like that.
I think Trump was right to to impose the tariffs and say, make it in America.
Give Americans the job.
This will make for Americans. Some of these products might be a little bit more expensive in the short term, give Americans the job. This will make, for Americans,
some of these products might be a little bit more expensive
in the short term, but in the long term,
because we're multi-layered thinkers,
Americans all of a sudden have income.
They're working jobs where they make a lot of money.
They're manufacturing cars, computers.
We're no longer dependent on China for chips,
or I should say Taiwan, but China for our medicine.
Our antibiotics and our vitamin C is made in China,
an adversary of this country.
That is absolutely insane.
So I'm with Trump.
I think I think he hit the nail on the head with the hammer with that one.
And then what happened?
They came out and they said this was a tax on the American people because these companies aren't going to change their behaviors.
OK, well, that may be.
I don't know.
What I can tell you is Joe Biden now just implemented tariffs.
Saying, well, we got to do it this way because the outsourcing is killing this country.
It is a little absurd that Biden is just slowly reimplementing Trump policies.
And it's it's all the ones they hated at the beginning.
Now, I mean, what's what's left?
I don't think there's any Trump economic policies that Biden hasn't adopted because they worked better than his own.
I think it's just social at this point. We're going to go to super chat. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? One like equals one.
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So when we first started, yeah.
So it's fascinating.
Many of them don't want to pay at all.
Some of them would still do it.
And then they would come in and they would try and screw with us.
And so then I was like, we have to put a gate.
So none of these Antifa people pay and want to pay 10 months for six months to do it.
So they give up.
Yeah.
$25 also was like, ah, it's not worth it.
So we were like, this created like a minimum barrier to make sure, like you can go in the chat rooms, but there's like, after six months you get upgraded because we're trying to keep,
people could do real disruptive stuff.
And so we were like, got to keep those people out of here.
Only for the legit people who actually want to have the conversations. And then I will announce for our,
uh, elite members. You may have seen the video I posted on X singing Eve sixes inside out. That's
right. Karaoke. And, uh, so we're going to give, be giving shout outs to our elite members,
which is a hundred bucks a month. When we do like, when we, so we went to this bar, they had karaoke night and there was like seven people there. And I'm
like, we need more people. So I was like, we should just shout out the elite members, let
them know like, Hey, we're going to come hang out, come hang out with us in West Virginia.
And so that's, you know, a good, like a good benefit to those who really do really supporting
us with the elite membership. And then you can, you can hang out and sing Eve six with us.
And then I tweeted it to Eve six, cause that dude Max is very, very lefty.
And I wanted him to know that I know all the lyrics.
I did not need the prompter.
And I could sing that song again.
And I will.
All right.
Here we go.
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All right. Kyle says, man. Really do appreciate it. All right.
Kyle says,
Doctor,
is that Ethan?
Ethan Haim is facing
10 years
on four felony charges
for reporting
on how his Texas hospital
was chemically
and surgically castrating
kids as young as 11.
Yeah,
I've seen this story.
We've actually got
one of these stories up
for the Members Only show,
which will get a little spicy.
And Chris Carr
just covered this
on scnr.com, so check out article craig dub says i want to publicly thank
chris for not only supporting the suffering mmtlp community but giving us full access to his contacts
in washington he's a man of the people 100 plus congressmen have signed on yes i'll actually talk
about that stuff came up for a minute so you So you hear a lot about the stock market manipulation happened with AMC and with GameStop.
Well, really, the one that has the evidence, the one that would be the smoking gun, if you will, is MMTLP.
So this is a dividend stock who went on the OTC and traded for a little while against the company's will.
And then eventually was to be, by FIN FINRA announced on December 6, 2022,
that on December 12th, it was going to stop trading and go private again. Okay. Well then
on the 7th, OTC, the vice president of OTC backs up that same thing saying you got to December 12th,
sell your shares, get your money out. Okay. Then on December 8th, FINRA again
backs up that same statement, December 12th, it will go off being publicly traded. Then all these people,
65,000 shareholders, wake up on December 9th with
the trade halt and all their money gone. And we have reached out to members
of Congress. Congressman Mooney here in West Virginia has been a big help with this.
I helped with 15 of these 100 signatures personally. So we have about
25% of Congress demanding answers,
wanting FINRA to release a share account here just to audit this thing.
And, you know, we talk about having free and fair markets.
Well, how about a free and fair stock market where people,
everyday people like us can invest their way to their American dream
without these hedge funds doing naked shorting
and getting these regulatory agencies to do these unfair halts to taking your money.
It's robbery.
Let's just, it's Robin Hood in reverse.
How did you get interested in this or learn about it?
I actually learned about it through X, through Twitter.
You know, I was running for office.
Some people reached out to me.
You know, I always try to help people where I can.
You know, people reach out to me about an issue.
I always try to research it and try to help as many people as I can.
I'm not even elected to office yet. I'm not even sworn in
technically yet. And I see an opportunity to make a difference. And I have, through helping
President Trump's campaigns and the Tea Party movement, I know some people in D.C. So when
people present me with an issue, I start calling these congressmen, like, hey, have you heard about
this? They're like, no. So then I get some people like Drew Diligence is what he goes on on Twitter.
His name's Drew. He has to give me some evidence.
Let's get some stuff together.
Let's start having some phone calls and some Zoom calls with some of these congressmen.
You know, Sessions and Mooney and Eli Crane and Matt Gaetz and others have been very vocal on this.
And it's becoming a bipartisan issue.
And this actually gives you a little bit of glimmer of hope.
We talk about the two-party system and how they're at odds with each other.
It's amazing, you know, the 100 members of Congress we have.
It's not all one party.
So, I mean, it does give you a little bit of glimmer of hope that you see a little bit
of bipartisanship going on.
But, you know, we're 18 months into this and it's not been resolved.
And we have to resolve this stuff so we can, you know, have free and fair stock markets
because the amount of money that's been stolen from these people and the amount of suffering
they've been through, it's inexcusable.
I mean, this is so unconstitutional on so many levels.
It's very cool that you took that on.
Right on.
All right.
We got Max Reddick who says, Tim, did Pac-Man ever confirm for culture war?
If so, this Friday.
The good news is Pac-Man, we were talking about coming on.
He wants to come on with Just Me.
He agreed.
However, the original date was July 5th.
We are not here on July 5th.
It's like literally impossible. And are not here on July 5th.
It's literally impossible.
And so we are rescheduling, but shout out to David.
I respect it, and I appreciate his willingness to come on and have the conversation.
Just me and him on the Culture War podcast.
But I will stress, so that Thursday and Friday, July 4th and 5th, no shows, because it's the most important holiday.
One of them, Father's Day is a pretty important one. I tweeted that out. The most important because fathers are required for a
functioning society. Everyone was very excited. But the 4th of July, we are going to be hanging
out. We're going to be watching the fireworks and we're going to be eating burgers and doing
America stuff and flying the American flag because we love this country and we want it to survive.
And when I say that there's like no country, I mean, there we are at odds, the people
who believe in what America is. Actually, I can simplify it. If someone flies an American flag,
you know who they're voting for. That's where we currently are in this country. And that and that
matters. So also, July 5 is also fourth July too. Everybody knows on July 5th,
we're all going to be out eating burgers
and watching fireworks.
And then we're gonna do the same thing on Saturday.
So we get a four day 4th of July celebration this year.
And we are going to accept it.
The reality is also,
there's literally no way to book someone
to come on the 5th of July.
No way.
Like everyone, like,
I wouldn't even want to ask somebody.
They're going to be like,
dude, I'm going to be hanging out with my family.
Come on.
We really respect the observance of 4th of July here. We can't even want to ask somebody they're going to be like dude i'm going to be hanging out with my family come on we really respect the observance of fourth of july
here we can't ask anyone to travel on it unless it is for you know freedom and liberty purposes
yeah the other tough thing is that um we're going through like our holiday schedule and
the last two weeks of december are just out because christmas falls i think on tuesday
and so it's like so that's it monday's Christmas Eve. We're going to be with family.
Tuesday's Christmas.
We'll be with family.
And there's no way we're having anybody fly to this studio on a Wednesday.
And then it's like, what do you do?
Thursday and Friday.
And then you got New Year's coming up right away.
That's not happening.
Nobody wants to do that.
Plus, if there's any like bad storms, like you get one delayed flight and it messes up
the entire guest schedule, I assume.
Yeah.
All right. Let, let's grab
some more Super Chats.
Here we go.
AJ Helbeck.
Hey everyone, I don't know who else to
turn to, but my Bernese
has gone through a life-saving
surgery. The medical costs are
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it's on Why Donate.
Bastion the Bernese. I don it's on Why Donate. Bastion the
Bernese. I don't know what Why Donate
is. I have no idea. I'm assuming it's just
another kind of like GoFundMe, right? Yeah, best of luck.
I know GoFundMe and Gifts and Go, but I haven't heard of that one.
Yeah, I like Gifts and Go
because they're not woke. They don't ban you.
Like, wait, wait.
Not Gifts and Go. Wait.
Yeah, I guess Gifts and Go is GoFundMe.
Right, GoFundMe is the bad one.
Gisenko is the good one.
Yeah.
There we go.
I got confused for a second.
All right.
The Christian one.
Kalishnikov says illegal alien truck driver with no CDL caused a fatal crash last week
in Colorado that killed someone.
He was deported 16 times prior.
Brandon's border has consequences.
I don't even understand how you get deported 16 times, come back and then
get a job without a driver's license. Well, we can't judge potential asylum seekers. And if we
just assume everyone is supposed to be here. It's just so many times. It's crazy to me,
but you hear stuff like this all the time, right? I mean, the story of someone who's been deported
multiple times with an established criminal history comes back and I don't know, commits a crime is well documented in America.
We just don't take the border crisis seriously, especially under this administration.
Yeah, I mean, we've even had a woman here in West Virginia who was murdered by an illegal immigrant who crossed the border multiple times.
So, I mean, it just keeps happening. Every state is a border state now.
You know, with the illegal immigration, I call it an invasion. This is called what it is.
I mean, it's an invasion of people into our country and also the fentanyl crisis.
I mean, we have to have, you know, if the federal government's not going to secure the
border, then the states need to be willing to band together to do it.
I mean, it's their 10th Amendment right to have, you know, secure borders.
It's sad to me that you can name so many, like Rachel Moore in Maryland, at Mama Five,
Lake and Riley.
The fact that this is something that I feel like it should be something that happens once
and it captures House of Tension and we're horrified by it.
But instead, there are so many names that you honestly end up forgetting some and it's sad.
All right. The text that says the draft is only for aggressive wars.
A war in self-defense wouldn't need a draft.
True. People would defend themselves and our land.
The only need for a draft is to force people to serve in an unwanted war.
Get rid of the draft. Disagree.
I'm with you on that.
The draft in a defensive war organizes and coordinates efforts to win the draft. Disagree. I'm with you on that. The draft in a defensive war organizes and
coordinates efforts to win the war. If an invasion force lands at Boston and you say, no, everyone
will defend themselves. A coordinated, organized enemy force will easily crush all of these
singular individuals trying to defend themselves. When you conscript the young men, you say,
in order to repel them, we have to organize our forces and build a strategy to defend themselves. When you conscript the young men, you say, in order to repel them,
we have to organize our forces and build a strategy to stop them. Because, you know,
I'll put it this way. Do you know why there's no anarchists, great anarchist societies?
I believe Catalonia briefly had one for a little bit.
Iceland, for a while.
Oh, yeah, that's a great example, too. Iceland. And do you know why Iceland had one for a little
while?
Because they're in the middle of the ocean.
Exactly. Because what happens with anarchist societies is a barbarian leader or a fascist dictator or
otherwise just says so they try to rule by committee so i can just instruct my men to take
it okay so anytime there's an attempt at some like passive we're going to meet together and talk
without a massive powerful powerful standing army.
The standing army just walks in.
And then the anarchists are like, quick, convene a meeting to figure out what to do.
Who's in charge?
I don't know.
And then you are being ruled by some bad guy.
Yeah, we fought hard at Bunker Hill and we fought hard as we were getting pushed down through New York and into Pennsylvania and into Virginia.
And it was only once we got to Valley Forge and trained a military that we were able to
do anything.
We need a draft for domestic wars.
All right.
Jump Daddy says, I'm a paratrooper in the 82nd.
We started getting female infantrymen last year.
They can't carry a rucksack over 70 pounds.
They can't carry a machine gun.
And they're all getting medically retired.
I've heard these stories.
This is why I ask.
Do you think part of it is that people don't want to recognize the differences between men and women? They just think, oh, a
person's a person, a person, which is not inherently true. In combat, yes. But like,
if they drafted all of these Gen Z women and made them clean the kitchen,
then you've got administrative work. You've got- I am for the Civil Service Corps. I agree. But
I do not want anyone- But military has people who clean kitchens, too.
True.
We should suffer that out.
Maybe that would help the military budget, right?
I'll put it this way.
Civil Service Corps.
You know it's not going to fly.
We've got a couple options for you, okay?
Combat, and it should be a requirement to carry the proper weight, machine gun, rucksack, all of that stuff.
Or domestic work.
You know what i mean like you know someone's got to clean the puke in the in the in the mess hall or whatever someone's got to do the dishes someone's
got to make the food there's also they're they're like internal jobs they can take like uh small
arms techs yeah small the one that i thought immediately was small arms tech because first
of all women's hands smaller easier to work with tiny parts. And it's totally safe.
There's no danger.
You're back behind the lines.
Everybody comes to you and says, I need my gun.
You hand it to them.
That's all you do.
They can pull levers in a factory to make the, you know, machines work.
Domestic, no problem.
You get drafted, you work, you got to go do it.
Hey, there you go.
As long as you don't get military service benefits for it.
If you're in the military, why not?
I don't think they should be in the military.
I think they should do these tasks in the Civil Service Corps,
which I'm now getting more and more excited about every time I say it.
I like the Starship Troopers model.
There's no such thing.
That's the one with that worm bug thing.
No, that's Dune.
Oh, I don't think I've seen it.
No, there's a gigantic one.
Is there?
Well, it's like a...
I don't know how to describe it, I guess.
It's huge, but it's sort of like...
And then he's like, it's afraid.
Oh, that thing.
Okay, now I know what you're talking about.
Yeah.
I'm talking more about the book.
Okay.
I haven't read the book.
The movie is a satire written by a guy who never read the book.
Yeah, but even in the movie, the bugs are the bad guys.
They attacked Earth.
Yeah, it's very anti-bug.
I definitely got that vibe.
I was like, what?
And then he tried making the humans look like Nazis.
And I'm like, but we were attacked.
They blew up a city and killed millions of people.
The bugs were the aggressors here.
Yeah, they were evil.
Wow.
They killed so many people for no reason.
Yeah.
And then we went, we conquered them.
Don't hit me.
I don't want to get into a fight.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's go.
Omega Rosetsu says, Tim, have you considered that including women to be part of the selective service would be how it is dismantled?
I personally say end the draft.
I like the idea of like, you know, back in the day, the British are coming and they're killing everybody.
And people are like, OK, we have to stand up against this.
And they went to a bunch of young men and said, are you with us or not?
And they were like, you're in. We got to defend this country if there's going to be one but i do believe
a lot of the continental army was enlisted not conscripted i think part of enlisted is that you
believe that there is something worth fighting for and i can understand where generations after
seeing you know endless wars or feeling like the places were being sent don't actually serve a
national defense purpose they just sort of serve the purpose of getting more influence for people in positions of influence.
That's not a very inspirational time to sign up and potentially risk your life.
Yeah, no.
What have we here?
Ryan Sargent says, straight up, women's equality depends on men's willingness to grant it.
Prove me wrong. No, you're correct. 100%.
There's a video that went viral a few months ago and it's popping up again where an untrained man fights a woman
with 10 years experience in karate and it's just like people are saying the guy's clearly holding
back it's like yeah other people complained that the style of karate she was she was using was not
a legitimate fighting style and i gotta admit i'd be willing to bet that if
this guy who was untrained fought round a rousey she'd mess him up yeah real bad however i do think
that like the average guy well you know i don't know if that's true anymore the average guy is so
doughy and weak that they probably would not be able to actually handle a trained woman at this
point whereas like if you go back to what the average guy is supposed to be
versus the 200-pound guy it is today,
you know, maybe,
women on average are 170 pounds
in the United States.
That's crazy.
I'm 185 pounds.
What is the average height?
For a woman, it's, what, a 5'4".
5'4", 170 pounds?
Yeah, and guys are 5'9", 200.
Guys.
Yikes.
Not the ratio I would go for
but no I was 5'9
and 200 a year and a half ago
I did not look good I did not feel good
let's go Tim Aldridge says as someone who's
tried to initially join the Air Force and then cross
over from the Navy into the Space Force
good luck getting into either
especially during a war
I had a very good ASVAB score
I'm hoping it sticks everyone's going to want to be working in the kitchen into either, especially during a war. I had a very good ASVAB score.
I'm hoping it sticks.
Everyone's going to want to be working in the kitchen.
I want to write the propaganda.
I want that to be my job.
Space Force makes its recruiting goals,
so it'll be interesting to see how the draft would affect them.
It's really, you know, infantry.
That's what the draft is for.
I just don't know that many people who are like, I have known some but there are not a lot of people who are like i want to be front lines
all right sneak king says we should draft illegal aliens first no no they have no stake in it they
won't want to fight they'll desert they're already talking about doing that and granting them
citizenship in exchange that might work no yeah not a fan you come here illegally and then we're
like okay but if we give you federal money you, you'll be loyal to the federal government?
And they're like, okay.
I say we send it all to Ukraine.
Well, my thinking is you don't take all of the illegal immigrants, put them into a regiment together, and then send them off to fight.
You split them up amongst regiments that are full of Americans and then that culturally Americanizes them.
It's what the Romans did in a lot of cases.
I just think it's weird that there are all kinds of rules
about eliciting in the military
when you have a criminal record.
But if you're here in the country illegally,
which is a crime,
you could then be in the military
and be granted a pathway to citizenship.
I do think it's a little silly that we have,
you can't be in the military
if you have a criminal record.
Like so many people come out of the military,
better people than they went in.
I mean, you are in there with people who are,
they're going to call you out when you do bad things.
They're going to make it a problem when you go against the group.
Like, they're going to teach you how to be a team player.
Yeah.
So we're going to put an end to this right now.
Oh, boy.
SA Federali says,
you better call it Quad Cities Pizza, Tim.
SA, you are wrong.
Stop calling my pizza your pizza.
This right here, we have an image.
Let me show it for you. This is
Chicago. This is real Chicago
pizza. What you are seeing on your screen,
this right here, this image where you can
see a little, that deep dish garbage,
that is tourist pizza for people who don't know what
pizza is, and they come to Chicago, and they went,
I want Chicago pizza, and we all go, yeah, yeah, go to Giordano's.
And they do.
Don't get me wrong. Lou Malnati's. I don't know if Leona still exists. Pizzeria yeah, go to Giordano's. And they do. Don't get me wrong.
Lou Malnati's.
I don't know if Leona still exists.
Pizzeria Uno.
They're all over the place.
And Giordano's.
It's good.
But 99% of the time in Chicago, when you'd order a pizza, you would get this big thing right here on the right.
The crust is flat.
It is thin.
It doesn't rise on the edges.
It's crunchy.
The middle is not crunchy.
Under the cheese and everything, it's thick, but it's still kind of soft.
This is Quad Cities.
What is this?
I've never had such a thing before.
That's just a Neapolitan pizza sliced into squares.
I do not know what this Quad Cities pizza is.
Do not come to me and tell me that your pizza is my pizza.
Okay?
The one you're saying that's classic Chicago pizza looks interesting.
Obviously, I grew up in New England. There's a pizza quality that i'm looking for the the thing
about deep dish pizza is uh you can't pick it up you have to use utensils for it it's fun as a
thing but see i feel like when i've eaten it it's like just too it is kind of hard i think it's
because outside of chicago nobody knows how to do it right it's a kind of it's nice but it just
doesn't seem like if you're looking for pizza, this
is what you would get.
I will tell you this.
What you're describing looks different.
In my life, I have gone to a deep dish pizza place seven or eight times.
Yeah.
And I have gone to a real pizza place 897 times.
When, and I mean, honestly honestly probably more than that we would go to big tony's in near logan
square and i think it's closed now and we'd order the extra large jumbo family size jardinera pizza
and it was massive and it looks like that and they call it tavern style well i guess that's what
what it's called i don't know we just called it pizza. And almost never would we be like, let's go get pizza
and eat Giordano's. I like Giordano's.
It's good. No beef. You know, it's
tourist pizza. The tourists come in and they go,
we want pizza. And they go buy the weird tourist
stuff from that big chain
of tourist pizza places that you could order on the
internet pre-made frozen and delivered to you.
You guys want a little Philadelphia secret?
Pat's and Gino's aren't the best
cheese steaks. Probably.
They're not anywhere near it.
Well, you gotta get the good local stuff.
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