Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1053 Republican AG SUES NY For ELECTION INTERFERENCE Over Trump Verdict w/Rachel Holt

Episode Date: June 22, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Libby, & Serge are joined by Rachel Holt & Chris Wallin to discuss the AG of Missouri suing Alvin Bragg over targeting Trump in NYC trial, Trump floating giving green cards to college graduates, a woke TV show comparing Trump to Hitler, and how Rage Against The Machine went woke. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Finally, thank finally, Missouri AG is suing New York, Alvin Bragg over prosecuting Donald Trump for election interference. Finally, can we get some more out of this? You know, I've mentioned Anthony Fauci's guidelines were directly impacting red states. They can go after Fauci for these things. Shout out to Missouri for actually making these moves. And to be fair, we've seen some great stuff from Texas and Missouri. They've been filing lawsuits, defending free speech, challenging big

tech corporations, a little bit out of Florida, too. So I do appreciate it. But I want to see this is a good start, but we got to see some criminal investigations and that's got to come from red states. So we will talk about that. Donald Trump made big news today when he said he wanted to give green cards to college graduates. And people are really they're debating this one. There's a lot of people who are upset. They disagree with Trump on this one. And we'll get into that.

And then, of course, Van Jones says it's game over for Joe Biden if he cannot perform in this debate. And they all know it. So I want to talk about all that, my friends. But before we get started, head over to song.link slash Rachel. Why? Rachel Holt has a new song out now with bass records. The song is titled I Was Gonna Be. And it is it's pretty deep. I don't want to go too much into it myself because I'm going to leave it to Rachel to describe this. But this is it's an anti-abortion song. It's a song about protecting life, being in support of life. And you guys should go to song.link slash Rachel.

Buy the song on iTunes. You can buy it on Amazon, too, but I say buy it on iTunes because like all the songs we've released, like the songs Tom McDonald released or the one he did with Ben Shapiro, we want to prove that there's a market for this, that people care about this. And more importantly, whether you care about charting on Billboard or not, it's just it's kind of funny when the corporate press, which is overly woke and these institutions are forced to reconcile with the fact that conservative songs, right wing songs, liberty songs, anti-establishment songs are actually making it up the charts. Now, I will say they are trying to change the rules every single day to prevent people like us or Rachel from making it on the charts. You gotta love it. But of course, you can go to, once again, song.link slash Rachel, buy the song on iTunes, check it out. I recommend checking it out.

See, if you like the song, you should definitely buy it. Shout out to Bass Records. And don't forget to also head over to timcast.com, click join us, become a member to support our work, our cultural endeavors, and join our Discord server where you can hang out with like-minded individuals. Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. We've got a couple of guests joining us tonight to talk about this and more. We've got Rachel Holt. Yeah, so this song is pretty much a pro-life song, and Chris Wallen here, he wrote it. So we've been working on this song for a while but

when he first showed me it instant chills and it's kind of just a song from the baby's point of view you just want to tell your story on it yeah well I actually started Chris Wallen joining us thank you so I actually started writing this song for myself and uh just kind of you know just I I didn't think anyone would ever have the courage to to sing this song it was just one of those things that i had to get out of me and i was about halfway through writing it when a friend of mine introduced me to rachel and it just kind of hit me like a ton of bricks this is who needs to be singing this song and i didn't i didn't know if she would but i played it for her and and she loved it and it you know for me it's just i just wanted to give a voice to the

voiceless because everybody everybody talks about the other side but they never talk about uh the actual baby so i just wanted to give that baby a voice. And that's what I did. And Rachel had the courage to do it. So you're a couple of musicians making some music. And this is the latest song from Bass Records. Shout out. You know, Afro Man had that song that hit the charts. You know, Hunter got high. So we'll talk about that. I think we're going to get a lot into the cultural stuff once we get to the news. There's a lot of funny news stuff we'll go through, but it is a Friday night, so we'll have fun with it. And then at 9.30, y'all are going to play the song for everybody.

Absolutely. Live here in the studio. We're really excited for it. We also got Libby hanging out. I'm hanging out. I'm Libby Emmons. I'm glad to be here. Right on.

Hannah Clare's here. I feel like I haven't seen Libby in forever. I'm so glad you're back. It's been a while. Yeah, I've had a lot of personal stuff. You came the day after my dictatorship ended. That's right. Yeah.

I was dictator for a day. Guys, thanks for all your support yesterday. I was really happy that I got a a lot of personal stuff. You came the day after my dictatorship ended. That's right. Yeah. I was dictator for a day. Guys, thanks for all your support yesterday. I was really happy that I got a chance to film for Tim. I'm glad he's feeling better. You know, it's a lot of work running the show. And I, again, thank you guys for all your support. Yeah, I'll go ahead. I was just going to say that I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow.

And now that I'm not a dictator on TimCast IRL, I'm a writer for SCNR.com. Follow their work at TimCast News. I don't know what they were telling y'all because I wasn't here yesterday. Probably making stuff up. I don't know. Look, when there'all because I wasn't here yesterday. Probably making stuff up. I don't know. Look, when there's a power vacuum, you have to act. That's right. And Trump said that he would be a ticket here for one day.

So just channel the energy. Yesterday I woke up at 2 in the morning with a – my root canal tooth was infected. And pain was like 8 out of 10. And so I had to go – I literally – I had to go to the ER and get treatment, antibiotics, and painkillers, and then I was just zonked out. I was like pain was max, and I could not do anything. But strangely, after the antibiotics and painkillers, I thought I wasn't going to be able to work today too because it was so bad.

I woke up totally fine, and I was like, wow. So here I am. I'm back. Shout out to Modern Medicine. Modern Medicine. Doing its job. We got surge here pressing the buttons yo uh let's get started here we go here's the first story from scnr.com missouri ag sues new york prosecutor alvin bragg over trump hush money case quote we have to fight back against a rogue prosecutor who is trying to take a presidential candidate off the campaign trail. Attorney General Andrew Bailey tweeted, I will be filing suit against the state of New York for their direct attack on our democratic process through unconstitutional lawfare against President

Trump. It's time to restore the rule of law. Bailey's lawsuit is the latest in a series of actions by public officials seeking to address apparent impropriety in the targeting of Trump for criminal prosecution. This spring, House Judiciary Committee called New York's prosecution of Trump an unprecedented abuse of prosecutorial prosecutorial authority and a politicized prosecution. Bailey suggested in a separate post that New York County District Attorney Alvin Bragg charged Trump in a bid to negatively impact his odds of reelection in the 2024 election. Now, it's the little things, right? This is not criminal charges against Alvin Bragg, which I think they should go for right away.

But it's a start. It's a constitutional lawsuit. I will take it. I'm glad someone in a red state is fighting back. Well, it's going to be Bailey, because he's the one who fights back against everything. We need more. He's tough.

We need some. Yeah, we need we need red state prosecutors from across the country doing stuff like this. It's really egregious to continue to see just the blue states going after, you know, conservative pundits and politicians. Why do you think that red state AGs don't act? I think I think there is sort of a disconnect going on. This is something I was talking to Jack Posobiec about recently. There's like this disconnect, this idea that, you know, you have to play by the rules. You have to have very specific principles.

And he's always like power without, you know, principles without power is basically just totally useless. You know what I mean? So I'm glad to see Bailey doing this. I'm glad that Congress is dragging Alvin Bragg in for a subpoena. I think it's stupid that it's July 12th instead of prior to, you know, the former president being sentenced. I think that's ridiculous. But, yeah, more more red state prosecutors should be doing this. It's it's not reasonable that this is going on.

And this is something Charlie Crick was talking about, too. It's the Democrats have a machine. Not, you know, the conservatives have a movement, but the Democrats have a machine. And Andrew Bailey is interesting because he really is active. I mean, he's gone after Planned Parenthood. He's gone after a lot of issues. I think he is someone who feels as though he is representing the interest of his state and the interest of the people who live there. It seems like so often people are afraid of losing office if they if they stand up for sort of conservative values. Who is he going after? IBM, Planned Parenthood? Who else? He had Biden. Yeah. The free speech stuff. Yeah. I mean, I just feel like I see

his name every couple months being like, I'm taking action. I'm taking action. I did feel this way about Patrick Morrissey in West Virginia. I felt like he was really on the ball for a while. But again, we didn't see any turn to the Trump aspect of this. I think it is good for them to prioritize what's going on in their state. On the other hand, what is happening as people go after the president?

They need standing, but yeah. So this morning, we had a very fun conversation on the Culture War podcast over at Tenant Media. And normally we go two hours, but the third hour just went into it. Andrew Wilson and I were fiercely debating the prospect of social collapse, decay, civil war, civil strife, etc. And I don't know how much was accomplished with the arguments that were made. But the arguments that I usually make are things like this interstate lawfare and interstate conflict are indicative of the breakdown of social order.

I mean, let's do the time travel test. I love it. If you went back to 2017 and said in 2024, right before the election, Missouri will be suing New York for unconstitutional prosecution of the presidential front runner, accusing them of trying to stop him from being able to win the election through state level criminal action. Who would believe you? Yeah, it's pretty wild. And now it's happening. I mean, Trump is guilty, they said, in New York. We haven't even had the election yet, and we're already getting interstate legal conflict.

Well, and at the end of the after the 2020 election, we had interstate legal conflict, but the Supreme Court refused to take it up when Texas teamed up with some other states and sued Pennsylvania because Pennsylvania wasn't following their constitutional constitutionally written obligations with regard to like, you know, how voting should be conducted. And the Supreme Court refused to take that up, which was lame. Yes. So what's the end result of things like this? I'll put it this way. If no one does anything, then fine. You know, like Andrew Wilson's premise was, he said Biden will get elected. Trump supporters will grumble and do nothing.

And Democrats will expand their control. And that will be it. It'll be over. And we had Richard Spencer on as well. And he said that he thinks it will be the last election. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of that. And it's, it definitely, we are, it does feel like we're at this crisis moment. And there's so many clashes that are looming ahead of us. But there's also the propensity of human beings to want to be at the end times, to want to imagine that they are at the most essential crux of history.

So are we at the most essential crux of history? I don't know. I mean, I'm sure that the guys in the trenches in World War One thought they were as well. But they were. And they sure were. I mean, and there's a lot of arguments to be made about whether we should or should or not should have or should have not been involved in World War I. But as Norm MacDonald put, hey, the good guys have won every war. Now his point is, you know, the people who win will declare themselves the good guys. But the point is, there's a resolution to a mass conflict

when those conflicts happen. And at the time, it is the biggest problem. You know, if there's a hostage situation, that's the most important thing in the world to that community where it's happening, where it's happening. But nobody notices, for example, Darfur is about to explode again. Yeah. And not paying any attention to my point is for the United States with lawfare, criminal actions against the front runner for the presidency. We are in the most dire time. But let me just stress this, too. I mean, never before has a president been found guilty of 34 felonies of a felony at

all, been put on trial, been threatened with prison in like all of this is unprecedented. We can we can entertain the idea that this is the beginning of it becoming normal. And now every four years it is whoever's in power arrests all their political opponents. But certainly the banana republic. And that leads to something, doesn't it? So if the next stage of this of this collapsing empire is we get 40 years of every four years, the dominant power that's arresting as many of their opponents as possible. We see that happen in other nations.

That's going on in Brazil. Well, and I think they fall apart. Yep. I think some people feel as though it's justified, right? There are people who feel as though this empire is bad. It's systemically racist and, you know, horrible things all the time. We should probably see the end of this version of America, right? There are people who don't like the country the way it is,

or they don't like any of sort of the traditional values or customs that we have. And so emboldening them to hasten on the chaos, hastening decay actually works to, again, a certain ideological, I would say progressive faction's advantage. I think this is one of the things about being on the moment of end times. I think you're right. Everyone thinks this is the most critical moment of history thing that i'm living through and when you don't know until the history books are written but for some people they are ushering the end faster because they want it they want this to be over and other people look at this like uh the destruction of something good and that should not come you know what's weird to me it kind of feels like the end of oh your mic's not on. I'm not on. Carter's actually chilling here too.

Yeah, yeah. Usually I'm here. We just put a camera here today. Still not on. Still not on. Oh, that's all right. Carter started talking and we're like... I think this is vocal mic.

Vocal mic one. Vocal mic one. Yeah. Yeah, it's not working. All right. Well, never mind. Bye, Carter. How's it going?

Well, Carter is handling the music production. There he goes. He's over there because we're going to be doing the music soon. I knew he was trying to chime in, but, well, we're going to need that one to work. Yes. See, end times all around us. I know, right? Somebody wants it to be the end time.

Yeah. It seems like, too, as Americans, we have this bubble that we're in that everybody thinks that it's not never going to happen to us. We look all around the world and we're like, no, that can't happen here. Yeah, because we have built our civilization up so big and so high. I was thinking about this during COVID, you know, when we just started watching things start to collapse. And it was like, I started to think like, why isn't it collapsing faster? And it's like, oh, because we have built it really big. Like it would take a lot to collapse it. Even just the little things, you know, it's a massive cascade effect, but we're seeing increased what in home foreclosures, you know, it's like harder for people to buy homes,

harder for people to stay in their homes. And that is such a huge component of what the American Dream is all about. You know, like you can buy a home, you can live there with your family, you can raise a family in a secure and safe place. And when that's what's crumbling, I always think for Americans, if you can get dinner on the table, that's what you're going to do

and you're not going to worry about the rest of it. But at the point when you don't have a table to put dinner on, then you're going to have trouble. So real quick, I do understand people can hear. The issue is that Carter's mic isn't coming through the headphones. Right, right. Anyway, continue, sir.

No, I was just going to say, yeah, the idea of the American dream everybody talks about is not the same. Today, especially for young people, it is not the same that it was. Although I talk to my son, which I know I used to miss an example for a lot of things, but like he is Get it Libby, you're a mom, you have a kid Whatever, I just he's like I want to grow up and be a dad and like have a family you know, and he's been saying that since he was little

But I think that's actually not as common like it's probably y'all's relationship. You and I have talked about this. We have talked about this because I I remember when I, you know, talked to all of my friends and it became increasingly more common for them to be like, I don't think I want any kids. And now I hear, you know, my younger sister's friends like talking about how kids are inconvenient or whatever else. There's obviously a conversation going on about having a family is a burden. And I think that you hear that similarly about property ownership.

Obviously, housing prices are crazy expensive. I think they just hit an all time high today. But there's interest, right? Interest, right. I mean, there are obstacles, but also the idea that you would have things that you buy, build, and make better, right? You buy a house, you add value to it, you maybe pass it down, you maybe sell it. That helps your family, which you have also put time into cultivating. These are all part of building blocks of a society. And when everyone around you is saying, well, kids are bad for the environment and you'll never own a house, don't even think about it. And also probably your job is useless.

So quiet, quit that. Like there is no momentum to move forward. And again, somebody benefits from that. No one just promotes this idea unless they're getting something out of it. I do think the idea of the American dream today, what young people think it is, is wrong. The American dream was getting a job, working really, really hard and moving up. It was upward mobility. So, you know, I've met tons of immigrants.

You know, the story I like to tell is a guy who worked at O'Hare Airport who worked 16 hour days every single day with no day off because he wanted to fund his kids going to college so they can get better jobs and have nice houses and move here from the Philippines. And the government forced him to take time off after a certain amount of time. The company was like, by law, you can't you can't work for two weeks and you're going to get paid 40 hours per week. And he was freaking out like, no, no, I need more than that. I need 40. I need 80 hours a week more. And they were like, no. He's like, how am I going to pay for my kids college that was the american dream he moved here i got to work his fingers to the bone so that his kids could live better now it's like the gen z millennial the gen z and millennial american dream is i want to be rich off of instagram and make half a million

dollars a year there was this julia fox an influence yeah there's this julia fox interview where she's like i mean mean, nobody likes working. I just want to stay home with my snacks and scroll on my phone. And like while it is always nice to take a break, right, on the other hand, work gives you purpose, right? Having a family gives you purpose. Having a religion can give you purpose. And then ultimately that helps you enrich the community around you. When we are all just living for ourselves as individuals, you know, in societies where we're treated like our cultures are interchangeable and you can just move wherever in whatever country

and it's all exactly the same you are ultimately kind of adrift no wonder we see skyrocketing rates of depression and anxiety right ultimately we are breeding a culture that doesn't make people believe they're in a system that's worth pouring into i mean you have to get sick of just sitting there scrolling like influencers, like doing that every day, all day. There's just no way you don't. Yeah. I mean, if it's not intellectually engaging, how are you going to build from it?

I disagree. I think sane, reasonable person like you're saying, like, certainly you must get tired of doing this. But this generation has been raised on nothing else. So they don't know anything else right you know the the dude who wakes up every day and starts chopping wood he knows it he loves it it's his thing he's good at it he defines he gets his muscle definition and he comes out and he's like let me show you how to do this and he's got the best fastest technique

and the people who scroll on instagram don't know nothing else well and their brains are wired differently they are seeking the dopamine hit of each video, right? It's the same thing with like iPad kids. Like their brains are wired differently to want to seek out the blue light, to have, you know, different kind of content to entertain them. Really? The blue light thing? Yeah, the blue light's addictive.

Wow. That's what I've always heard. And like I've heard parenting experts say, don't put your kid in front of a TV until they're three years old. Because otherwise you're suppressing a certain amount of like problem solving and creativity you know people get really scared about things and other people are like that's totally wrong but ultimately all of these things all of the devices that you have are designed so you are constantly using them they're sucking you back in you know you get a notification the video's faster youtube's

about to end whatever it is and children are particularly vulnerable to this. There's an episode of Star Trek. I know everyone's very excited to hear about Star Trek, where they go to a planet where the planet is managed by an AI and none of the people know how the AI works or what it is. Because for generation after generation after generation, the machine has taken care of everything. So it's like, I don't know, it's just there.

It does its thing. And then when it breaks, they're freaking out like, we don't know what it is. Right. This is where we're going. Yeah. We are moving into a generation where with Boeing, with airplanes, we're seeing like all these stories about airplanes. And a lot of people are like, no, no, it's just the news reporting. It's not real.

We're seeing crime. No, no, it's just because people are sharing videos. It's not real. It is all real. We are seeing stores closed down because shoplifting is going crazy. We are seeing planes with engines bursting to flames. And when they say it's just because it's being reported in the press, I've actually talked to, I shouldn't say talked to, but I've heard from a man.

He was telling a bunch of people this story in public, hanging out, saying he used to work for the airlines, and they've started doing, removing safety features, like switching out how they used to maintain these planes, and I'm keeping it kind of light. And then we saw there was a story about an investigation into counterfeit titanium being used in planes. Now we're hearing they're saying that broken parts were being put in planes.

What's happening is... Yeah, that was crazy, the broken parts thing. People don't know how these machines work, don't care to learn how they work, and the companies that are hiring people are going further and further down the merit ladder to find people based on race and identity instead.

And so we are going to end up as a society where sooner or later people are just like, Brondo's got what plants crave, so we're going to pour Gatorade on our crops, and then the crops die, and they're like, why'd that happen? I wonder why. I look at that with my house, and there's a broken thing on my porch, and I was like, I need to get someone to fix that. And I was like, no, you've got to figure out how to fix that.

So now I'm figuring out how to fix the broken thing on my porch. I think sometimes it comes down to just old fashioned work ethic sometimes too. Like when, when we first, well, I'll just go back to, to Rachel. When, uh, uh, we first started talking to Rachel, you know, we, we see a lot of people, we see a lot of, uh, artists come in, but Rachel, her, her dad told me this story. I don't even know if you know that he told me this. But, you know, at 16, Rachel, I mean, had her own band, was out playing places, making what most people, more than what most people make at a job. When she was 16 to 17 years old, doing it herself,

getting her own band together. You can't teach that it's hard to teach that and and then you have people that are coming trying to make it today that that just are karaoke kings and they they just want to show up and oh it's going to be worse and that's going to be ai yeah exactly you i don't i don't know if i would say you can't teach it it's just the way you teach it's not the same as the way you teach math. You show it. Right. So if you get a kid who grows up and they see someone play a song, get paid either tips or sell a CD, they're learning how you do that and they will imitate that. So it's not so much like going to someone saying, here's how you do it.

It's just in modern society, parents are putting their kids in front of iPads, TVs before that, computer screens. And so the kids aren't actually watching how functioning adults build networks, build machines, generate value, build wealth and survive. This next generation growing up, it's going to be wild how many people are already they are. But we're going to start seeing just how incapable, incapable they are of basic tasks. Yeah, I think the environment makes a big difference because we used to have cultures that had kids around people of multiple ages, right? Whether it's slightly older children, maybe siblings that are 10 years older than you, young adults, parents, families were bigger, and everyone learns to model behavior that they see. Obviously, that could be problematic if you have a family that's maybe dysfunctional, but also if

you have an ambitious cousin who's slightly older than you, you are learning from them. If your parents are doing daily tasks in a certain way, you're observing it. But now we have kids, you know, in school for a large amount of the day. So the parents can both work different jobs in different places, totally separate. Kids are with kids of their own age, and they kind of only socialize in that very, very insular environment with maybe a teacher who they have around but doesn't necessarily model social behavior always. It's a challenge that we have created and also will not give up. I do want to give a shout out to Revan's Padawan Super Chat.

He said, Tim, the Star Trek episode with the AI isn't applicable able as the episode with the hypnotic game. Another episode. Yeah, that's a really good game, too. I was thinking about that game the other day. Let me, let me explain it. So on the show, there's this headset that people get and it's an augmented reality game. And this is a show from 89, by the way, 1989. And so this early, early nineties, when this episode comes out, you put the headset on and you can see a game where you're trying to throw a disc into a hole and then it triggers a dopamine release that makes you high. In the show, the actual story is it's used to mind control you.

But it's amazing how they nailed that well before. I mean, I think this came out at the same time as Super Nintendo. They didn't realize we were actually going to have Apple Vision Pro glued to our heads and we are going to have people wanting the Neuralink to go into the matrix. And more than just one game. I mean, that was just one game where you breathe in and a little disc goes in the thing. Now we have five bazillion games that all do that. All triggering your dopamine. And the worst game of them all is Instagram and TikTok. Because it's designed to make you want to scroll endlessly forever. The other thing too about it is like, it's sort of, when you spend all your time online

and doing social media, it's like your life is just good enough so that you don't question it. It's not that bad. It's not good. But you're just like, meh, it's okay. And you just kind of like drag along to the next day without really a lot of concern that you're not living up to anything worthwhile. You know, it's really sad.

What? It's sad that 200 years ago, a woman would walk into the barn and churn butter and be very happy and satisfied. And the man would go out and chop wood and then be like, oh, I got a little extra done. Check it out. We got 32 today. And she'll be like, oh, wow, you got some extra. And be like, yeah, this is great.

They'd be very happy about that. That actually sounds kind of great yeah but it's like by today's standards it seems so quaint to be like so you chopped wood so what but but back in the day that was like i got the job done and it's like well i got the butter and it's like let's eat and they were happy to live those lives they were accomplished they felt good by doing it now every single millennial i'm exaggerating, but many millennials in Gen Z, they want to be famous. They have to be famous. They have to make half a million dollars. That's actually, that's the millennial number where they say in order to be happy, they need

half a million dollars a year and they got to be influencers. Yeah, that just seems crazy. Also, being an influencer seems like it sucks. That doesn't seem like a great job. I do like a fair bit of, you know, social media stuff and like being beholden to that seems like it sucks. That doesn't seem like a great job. I do like a fair bit of, you know, social media stuff. And like being beholden to that seems like it would be just a nightmare. A lot of days I'm like, I'm just happy. I'm just going to go do my job. Selling supplements. Yeah. Sometimes I think influencer culture, again, because we're a less religious society, means that for a lot of people, that's the only way to feel valued, right? That's the only way

to feel like you have any kind of moral platform, that people will remember you. There's sort of this race to be a part of something and to be seen by so many people so that you stay relevant. Whereas, you know, when we lived in a less mobile society, meaning people didn't travel the way we could, we didn't necessarily see as many faces because social media wasn't around, to be important in your community, you'd have to actually go out and do things and be engaged. And, you know, I know there are a lot of influencers who have careers and things that they're passionate about. But the fact that so many young people say that's their number one goal, I don't think it's about, oh, I really love doing this. It's about filling a hole that they have because they're sort of

looking for meaning in a world where they feel like they're going to be forgotten yeah yeah there isn't a lot of meaning because people don't know where to find it yeah right the meaning is cut is coming from the people out there on the phone like there's there's no alone time you don't have to actually be alone with your feelings and actually work something out you just go you're distracted you can be distracted exactly good that there's like actual new culture being made so much of what we see is like completely regurgitated you guys are out here making new music tim you're making new music and like new culture i have so much respect for that i think that's what we really need i think there's more meaning to be found in art and creation it's it's pretty scary actually culturally a lot of things are collapsing and uh i don't know what

happens after that i think someone's phone might be near their microphone by the way or something because we're hearing that but um you know we're working on a bunch of skateboard stuff here at the boonies hq We just finished the new mini ramp. It was awesome. Got to throw a little trick on there. Here's the crazy thing. The skateboard industry, which is a multi-billion dollar industry, it's in the Olympics, is dying. Really?

It's dying. There's a ton of professional athletes in skateboarding. They're broke now. They've lost their jobs. You look at video games. People have pointed this out. The new video games flop. Nobody wants to play them. They're playing the same few, but they're playing games from a long time ago. GTA 5,

GTA became an online game and everyone kind of stopped where they were. We are seeing serious and exponential cultural stagnation. And it's kind of terrifying. Culture informs. It informs our laws, our decisions, our politics. And we are seeing, look at Star Wars, what is it called, The Acolyte or whatever? Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah, it's just maybe, I don't know what it is, they're trying to make culture. It seems like they're just ripping it to shreds and burning it to the ground. Yeah, they don't care.

They care about it in as much as they can use cultural vehicles to create propaganda and to spread propaganda. That's why we saw the first use of preferred pronouns in space. That's why they talk about how it's the gayest Star Wars ever. Space. I haven't seen it yet, but I don't want to now. And there's a fire in space. Yeah, that makes so much sense.

Of course. There's no fire in space. Yeah, that makes so much sense. Of course. So there can be fire inside spaceships where there's oxygen and the chemical reaction can happen with a fuel source of some sort. But they had a scene where they're in space and the woman steps out and the engine's on fire and it's crackling. You're just being a man using science to oppress women's creativity. And I think that they don't like that. The comment was, this is what happens when you get rid of mansplaining. Ha ha.

But it's wild that they were like, we don't have to obey the rules of science. This is how important our work of quote unquote art is. Space magic. Well, let's jump to this story, because this story may be somewhat related to the decline of the United States. Trump wants to issue green cards to foreign students who graduate college from SCNR. The proposal drew criticism from Rep. Thomas Massey, Laura Loomer, and Steve Bannon. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. Laura Loomer? I don't believe that. Where is it? She said, I love President Trump, but I don't agree that you can get a green card if you

graduate from an American college. Millions of illegals here in America are on overstayed visas and green cards. She goes on to say, I'm just loading, giving green cards to college graduates from foreign nations is a policy that the base opposes. How can we trust that any vetting of foreigners on campuses would be done adequately when vetting in other areas like personnel has failed? It's no shocker that billionaires and big tech approve of importing immigrants to fulfill jobs in tech. I'm sure that big tech billionaires think the the Indians in the call centers who

handle our customer service and don't speak English are brilliant, too. They aren't, though. These foreigners just take jobs away from Americans. And it's also why big tech was able to get away with stealing the election in 2020, as I wrote about in my book. She doesn't mention that many of the employees at big tech are foreigners. Big tech is no friend to MAGA. No more visas till every single illegal alien is deported. I got to tell you, when Laura Loomer comes out in disagreement with Trump, that's a policy Trump, I mean, she is the tip of the spear for Trump's base. No one is a bigger supporter. And if she's coming out strongly against it, now, I got to say, I actually agree with Donald

Trump. Yeah. On the surface, on the surface. But let's argue it, and we'll get into the nuance. Well, I don't agree with it. But if you guys want to stay here, go ahead, Claire. I mean, I think in large part, Laura's right. I think the policy of saying that if you come to America, you know, great, get your education and we'll also let you stay here is harmful to both America and to the countries that students are coming from. If you have a student

that is looking to be ambitious, to get an education, and to potentially develop skills in a career, I think it's also important that we don't siphon off the potential middle class of a country that could then fall into economic collapse and become more dependent on America. But why are we spending money on their education in the first place? I would be happy to not accept as many foreign students, but that's not the question that we have here. I think with green cards in particular, I think it's accurate to say that the students that are competing that come to America for education, maybe it'd be good to help them build their

economy if they return home with this education. Maybe they don't have access to it. But when they are now competing in the job market, I think that's a disadvantage to Americans. That is not fair. I also agree that ultimately it's very easy to stay in America on an expired visa. I think we should move towards a net zero migration policy. And so it's hard for me to sign off on a green card policy when ultimately we have unchecked immigration. I think we have to address illegal immigration first, but we have to address the fact that if you're a green card holder, you ultimately get a path to citizenship. And we've never addressed the consequences of chain migration so it's just continuing to feed into an already unstable system and i just don't think that we

should use it as an election bargaining chip at this point the question is how many first how many trump how many of these uh how many how many you you would say zero you would have none of them zero probably i mean there is probably a very, very small amount I would compromise on, but I think you have to leave with zero. 100. I don't know. I'd have to say that. 1,000.

So here's the issue I see. You've got individuals in many different nations who desperately want to come to America because we're the best. That's why everybody wants to be here. We don't need to compete when we can brain drain the other countries. The question, however, is there is an upper limit that I think would probably be small and the average person be willing to accept. So when I say I agree with Trump on this one, it's only because Trump didn't really specify

anything. He said we should give green cards to people graduate college. I'm like, OK, a thousand maybe, because then the goal is you make it extremely, extremely difficult. You hit up Japan, India, Russia, any country and say only the top 10 of your country will ever be allowed in American university. And then we get their best scientists. We get the best of their researchers and then they can come here, come to our colleges. It would represent point zero zero zero one percent of our of our education base. But then we don't

have to compete with people when they want to be here. We basically buy them out. But what if they just, what if the top 10% just come here and, you know, end up in woke indoctrination centers and then we just end up with a bunch of woke immigrants with green cards who want UBI? And that's another issue that isn't actually, and it doesn't actually argue Trump's point. So when Trump says this and he says, I actually think we should give green green cards with college degrees. My thought was that statement alone isn't enough for me to say Trump is wrong because it's too vague.

The question first is how many? The second question is, will there be reform first or what degrees? Right. Because a lot of institutions in America, especially smaller private universities, need a certain amount of foreign students who can pay complete full cash tuition. They don't have to offer financial aid to to be able to stay alive. You've seen so many colleges shutter over the last couple of years. This also happens with private high schools, too. But you'll see towards the end when there's a financial problem, you'll see the increase in the enrollment of foreign students in in in large part because they are relying on them for money. Maybe those schools should shut down.

Yes, maybe they should. Trump said, so we got to reform the colleges first. But on the surface, I don't think the blanket statement is incorrect. It just requires a lot of caveats. Trump said, we bring these people, they come into this country, they go to our universities,

and then they leave and become billionaires. They become millionaires and billionaires in their country producing products that we could have had control of. And I'm like, yes, I would much prefer that. I don't want world war. I don't want U.S. empirical hegemonic power. We don't need that. Trump is the businessman. We secure our borders, we bring our jobs back, and then we brain drain our adversaries across the world. So they if they want the flying car, we're the only one who makes it. Why? The better America becomes, the more the smartest people from insert country want to be here instead. And that will make it impossible for anyone to compete. They'll have to come here

and then we get it. That that that can push back war that can give America international dominance. It can create even petrodollar dominance without combat conflict or drone strikes. So in order to get there, you know, Bannon, Loomer and Massey are critical of it because right now you can't do it. No, you don't. Universities are broken. They're woke. We don't want to bring those people in on that. However, I would say you reform it. You set an upper limit of maybe a thousand, maybe it's ten thousand. So we're talking about like two hundred to five hundred thousand people. Ten000 is not that big a deal. It's got to be extremely difficult.

The waiting list is going to be 20 years. And we only go for the highest income earners. And then, as you mentioned, which degrees is it going to be? I was going to say, no green cards for gender studies. Nothing. And then no remittances allowed. And limits on chain migration. Like it can work if basically what we're saying is we don't want to give a dude who's going to invent the next like the flying car.

We don't want to give that away. My thing is just our immigration system is really broken. And so I don't think we should promise potential path to citizenship towards or permanent residency, whatever. But if you get permanent residency, then you can move on. I mean, ultimately, there are all kinds of doors open when you have the green card. But I just don't think that we should open this door until we have sealed the windows and, you know, shored up our foundation, so to speak. I think we have enough issues. And I don't know that it would even benefit people who come here on a green card if we continue to have a country

that's going into crisis because we cannot keep track of how many. Did you guys see how Alvin Bragg, who prosecuted Trump for 34 times of invoices and checks, he he dropped all charges against all the agitators at Columbia who broke in and did graffiti and were violent and all that stuff. All of those people, no charges because the system is completely broken. Yeah, it's completely broken, which is why I don't think there should be any kind of promises, regardless of how many caveats we could come up with. You know, I got to just go back to what we were talking about a little moment ago, because,

you know, I had this big debate with, on the culture war about social order decay and breakdown. And I'm just like, for the life of me, I cannot grasp how someone could be aware of what's going on in this country over the past 10 years and think we are not on a crash course with collapse because go you go back eight years and the things i was saying people were like you're crazy i'm like i read an article that says civil war is possible the united states i'm like that's nuts that'll never happen then we had charlottesville no that was a riot that's no big deal okay then you had uh the summer of love riots 2020 george floyd george floyd then you had chas chop really the covid riots i mean absolutely yeah you had draconian lockdowns forced medication you had uh far leftist taking over cities and i'm like

that escalated without resolution then you got january 6th because people wanted resolution to the crisis that we saw in summer and didn't get it. And now they're it's still happening. Now they're trying to lock Trump up. And we're still waiting for the Fisher decision, which would really if if the Supreme Court ruled in favor, would vacate a lot of those. The immunity question? No, the Fisher. Which one is that one? So with it's a January 6th case. Oh, right, right, right. The obstruction. Yeah. Can you use, you know, the congressional obstruction thing against protesters? And if they

just issued their ruling on presidential immunity and obstruction, we would actually be able to move forward quite. We can't. They're holding on to it. And it's going to be what we have decision days, what Wednesday and Thursday next week. Yeah, it's going to be an October surprise or something. but looking at all this i have to release it it'll come next week i have to release the term ends next week but okay it'll be i bet it'll be

thursday you know they'll wait it's gonna be the end we'll see as soon as they start putting up the fencing around the court it's like the row decision right the row decision came on the very last day and we knew it was and at that point we knew it was coming you know i mean and there's a lot of really fascinating cases too that are still not knew it was coming, you know? I mean, and there's a lot of really fascinating cases, too, that are still yet to be decided. You know, Missouri, the free speech one, the Bailey case.

Chevron is interesting. You know, the going again on the Chevron case is interesting. So I don't see how when you look at all of this over the past eight years, where it's just escalated nonstop

to the point where we're now looking at the man who is the front runner to win the favorite in the polls, the favorite in the fundraising. The celebrity superstar is facing prison time in numerous jurisdictions at the federal level and the state level. And people are saying, no, no, everything's fine. And this is normal. I'm just like, man, at a certain point, you have to be like, something weird has happened to this country. I think something weird is happening. And I do think that it's not the country we, you know, it certainly seems far different from the country that I grew up in. What is weird? Can we, can we, can we describe what the weird thing is, or is it too ambiguous to be? Well, one thing that's, one thing that's weird is how, if you are

on the opposite political side as someone else, you can't have a conversation. You can't be friends. You can't be married. Like there's all this stuff. I mean, when I was a kid, my stepmom was a Democrat and my dad was a Republican. And they argued about what was it like Walter Mondale and Ronald Reagan at the dinner table and they would get rather heated. And then, you know, they would drink a gallon jug of Ernest and Julio Gallo or whatever and like watch comedy shows and go on their merry way or whatever it was that they did. I ignored them. But that, you know, you used to be able to do that. You know, my grandfather would be of one opinion.

My mom would have a different opinion. They would argue and then we'd have dinner. And now it's like, if you disagree with your parents, you're supposed to go no contact and never speak to them again. If your best friend is like, you know, dating a Republican, you're not supposed to talk to her and you're supposed to tell her to break up with that guy.

You know, there's like all of this kind of stuff. That's very different from when I was a kid. There's also this thing where we used to have cultural similarities. When I was a kid, we'd all watch the same shows on Thursday night, like it was the Cosby show. We all watched the Cosby show, you know, like come into school, everyone had watched the same thing. You'd all talk about, you know, what did you guys have for dinner last night? Because for the most part part we all sat there at a dinner table with whatever was left of our families and like ate together you know what i mean and that kind of

stuff is very different and i think that um there's a lot more cultural fragmentation so there's a there's a lot of things that are that are very different no one really goes to work anymore you know at a certain economic level it's definitely a pulling apart it's amazing to think that you know you can't compromise with your friend who thinks about anything differently than you politically we talked at a poll somewhat recently uh back in the day parents uh you know if you were catholic or religious whatever you wanted you would rather have your child marry someone of a different political party than of a different religion and now that's not the case at all now there's no religion and we also have a weird homogenization right it used to be that if you went to different

parts of the country people had different accents and that's different now too it's like no matter where you go in the country everyone kind of talks the same there's a lot of the same stuff we go to the same fast food places because they're kind of everywhere there's nothing there's you know there used to be regional differences you'd go to the Grand Canyon and you'd find something, you know, some kind of food you never ate before, you know, other than prairie oysters. It's not really there's not that many differences. And I think that's that is a problem right there that I see is it's OK to be different. It's it's that always kills me. And the everything has gotten so visceral.

Everything is just, you know, I have friends that I've known for 20 years, I've been in the business with for 20 years, just no contact because of the last few years. And it's gotten to where, especially if you lean anywhere near the right it's it's it's it's kind of terrible what what is happening and and uh and if if you say anything they automatically get personal and i think that's different is is i don't think we used to get so personal when it came when it comes to politics or anything like that but now it's i mean it's name calling it's and you know and i think people are out there in america saying this why are we doing this and why is it one side yeah yeah exactly y'all gonna hear me now yeah cool yeah i was like waiting but anyway yeah no

it's weird i feel like um has it been the media do you think think, the legacy media in the form of like clinging to the last – their death now is like we put Trump on trial. We've done all these things and they're kind of – are they using this like political stuff as like a way to keep people watching and also is that stuff making people hyper polarized? Yes. So I think it's a combination of factors, one of which is, you know, a lot of people think MSNBC, for instance, is intentionally just Democrat, but not it is. But it is in that they started looking at their viewership there. They did A.B. testing. CNN did the same thing. Jeff Zucker comes in and says, guys, when we have a panel talking Trump, ratings spike. When we talk flat news, no ratings. Look at MH370 when that happened. CNN went nuts.

They were sitting in a big old, well, I'll keep it family friendly. They were sitting around a table patting each other on the back about how good they were and how awesome the story was. And everybody wanted to watch. And then it eventually ended. They have nothing. Trump gave them this endless cycle where they're thinking like, wow, we're getting ratings. We're making money. Keep going.

Keep going. Keep. But you can't keep going. What ends up happening is some once respected news outlet writes Donald Trump said a racist thing. Right. And then they get a million hits. Then the next day they're like, well, we can't write the same article, but that one did really well. I know.

Let's just say he's racist and we'll compile things he said that we think are racist. Headline, Trump is a racist. That got a million views. Okay, well, we can't just call him a racist. Ooh, what if he's like the worst racist? He's like the worst we've ever seen. What if he's a misogynist and a racist? What if he's a rapist because of some random thing in Bergdorf Goodman with an unspecified date?

Intersectional date. Well before that. That's the politics and the lawfare of it. What I'm saying is in the media, in order to keep writing the same thing

that's A-B tested, it's proven, it's going to get hits, they can't run the same story twice, so they keep adding to it. And Trump said a racist thing,

turns into Trump is a racist, turns in. He's the most racist guy we've ever seen, too. I can't believe our president is racist. Our president is a white supremacist. Our president's praising neo-Nazis. Our president is as bad as Hitler. Our president is Hitler.

Our president is worse than Hitler. That's where we're at with with how the media is attack Trump. Because the media can make money off of fear mongering and the Democrats can use compliance. But you overdose. The media injects and injects and keeps upping the dosage until finally people go numb and they just OD on Donald Trump is Hitler. It doesn't work anymore. It reminds me of when you have a show that you like.

The first couple seasons are good. And then by the seventh seasons, it's just off the rails. Every character's plot, like character arc is totally messed up and everyone's interdated it's very horrible and whatever like it went so far that they kind of ran out of scene but they cannot end the show jumping the shark that's what it's called yeah i mean because the fonz jumped over a shark i was gonna say that was the fall yeah i think you're right i think we're on the precipice of that peak of people. Because, you know, you see there's a lot of Democrats now coming back, say, saying, well, no, wait a minute. This is this is kind of getting crazy here. And now we're the boomerang is coming back to Trump.

And there's a lot of people that you would never think would make that switch. You have, you You have Democrats turning the other way now and getting on the other side, and I think that's why. It's because they went too far. I have a correction. It was on skis, not a motorcycle. The Fonz jumped over a shark on skis. Water skis. Water skis.

At least that's somewhat more relevant to the situation. He was on a boat. They've run out of things to have these characters do, so The Simpsons ended, I think, on the end of season 9. He was on a boat. It was like a water. They've run out of things to have these characters do. So The Simpsons ended, I think, on like the end of season nine. I guess everyone says the end of The Simpsons was when people found out that Principal Skinner was named Armin Tamzerian. Yeah, right. He's the principal.

He lives with his mom. And then one day they were like, let's just make it like he's a different guy, I guess. It's like we got nothing left to write about. See, the opposite. Grandpa Simpson is gay and Bart hates feminists. Yeah. The opposite of this is Law & Order SVU, which I think is on season 45, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, my. It's gone on for so long.

But also now you can predict everything they're going to say, right? But do you know why SVU, all of them have been able to last so long? Because they're just based off of criminal records. You don't need writers to be like, what did he do now? When you can just be like, pull up up the records let's get a story yeah but now back in the day you know all kinds of different plot points it maybe was kind of crazy maybe not super accurate law enforcement but now i bet every time you watch the show you know exactly who's gonna be the criminal because it has gotten so woke like you oh yeah adopted the plot points that everyone else has it's the white guy every

there was some show i think it was 24 i remember one like christmas my my family's all together i was back from college and my brother's like oh watch this crime show with me my my son and i were watching it and after the first two episodes we were like we were just playing this game i bet it's the white guy and it was every time and he shut it off because he's like ruining the show but it was like look you're not allowed to be the ensign y'all y'all need to watch that show evil on c CBS cause the bad guy so like the good guys are Catholics but they're like it's an interracial

group of mystery solving assessors they call them for the Catholic church it is funny that they're Catholic but the bad guy is this white stodgy academic guy with glasses and he like grooms a mass shooter by telling him he's gotta be a man and he hates women and women are bad he tells him this is your red pill moment he's got to be a man and he hates women and women are bad.

He tells him, this is your red pill moment. He tells him to go on 4chan. And it's like... I wonder who that writing room is voting for. That's right. And then I mentioned this in the culture where I was really funny. The episode I'm watching, because there's four seasons of it.

On season three, one of the main characters is a woman. She has four kids. And she's telling her daughters, like, basically saying, don't lie to me. So she's like, I'm going to write down the 10 commandments of the main characters is a woman she has four kids and she's telling her daughters like basically saying don't lie to me so she's like i'm gonna write down the 10 commandments of the family and family number one is thou shalt not lie to mom and then one girl goes can we lie to other people and she goes no and then one one girl goes but what if it's like we're hiding jews with hitler or immigrants with trump and then she's like those are good points but we'll talk

about that later and i I'm like, comparing hiding immigrants like Trump is like Hitler to the Jews. That's what they did on CBS. I just saw this clip from the medical show, New Amsterdam. I saw that too. Yes. The guy is like, I've been talking to your son, where else? And mom is like so confused.

And he's like, you know, he's feeling all this pressure and nothing or whatever. Your son's cancer was caused by racism. By internalized racism. Wait, what? I'm not even kidding. I will send you the link. It's the most ridiculous thing.

And they presented this like this is a serious sitcom medical show. Well, that's like the Acolyte star who put out her little diss track on Instagram was talking about how she wasn't going to let herself be one of the people that gets sick from being oppressed. It's like, how are you? You have have Disney salary. You were in the Hunger Games. You know, you make all this money. Ma'am, I do not think you are. She gets sick from being oppressed and from being an oppressor. Yeah. Both of them get cancer. And she's out there, like, doing a little dance and

stuff, looking like Ice Spice. Oh, well, I'm glad that she's so oppressed that she can do that with her audience and her extra time. And she's able to dance around the streets of New York and nothing bad happened to her for the whole time she was shooting the video. Classic oppressed woman. Somebody disabled couldn't do that. Well, this is the thing about the oppressed.

It was ableist, Carter. I think you're correct. I believe it was. People to the privileged, anything, everything looks like oppression. If you are on top of the mountain, you can only go down. If you are at the North Pole, it is all south from there. But that was the point. That was the point of critical race theory.

And that was the point of woke. The entire point was to demand that everyone wear racism colored glasses so that you see racism and oppression every single place that you look. And that's all that they see. Wealthy American liberals with moderate to high incomes in

big cities complaining that they're being oppressed and then they make the argument they actually make the argument that oprah winfrey is more oppressed than a white homeless veteran begging for change yeah that's their world she's oppressed by the diet industry because she has always felt so bad about her weight and it's always been such a you know such a noose around the neck for her like albatross that's the word i'm looking for it's been an albatross i heard about this term um uh called fat liberation and it was someone arguing that that being fat is just like any other disability and if you exclude them from the ableism movement then you're you're actually she was the dove person right didn't she like oh i heard about this on a podcast and i'm sort of thinking like no i don't think that you are

uh having the same problems as like people who live in major cities that cannot accommodate that are dependent on subway transportation like new york city but there are very few elevator shafts where you can get your wheelchair down like i don't think you're on their level of needing the society to pay attention to something that might make you able to live there. Yours is maybe somewhat self-inflicted, I would argue, but who knows. You were saying something earlier, too, about how people are kind of addicted to attention online. Do you think that's feeding into it as well as far as the political stuff? Because like you said said if you say something

about trump you know you're going to get more views if you say something that that is uh you know that's that this is oppressive when everybody knows it isn't it's going to get more views and it all kind of goes into the same tank if you think about it. It's going into the attention tank. Trump broke everybody. I remember it was the day after the election and I was in a fairway market, which is woker than Whole Foods in Brooklyn.

And people were crying. And you know how music plays at the grocery store. So Sweet Home Alabama was playing. And this older white lady walks up to a staff person who had a hijab on or something and was like, don't you think this is in poor taste? Can we turn this off? Are you kidding? I'm not kidding.

That really happened. This is Fahrenheit 451. Yeah. Oh, my God. Everything is offensive. I think it's funny because I read a story about how Ray Bradbury was giving a college lecture or something, and they were talking about Fahrenheit 451 and the question of

what is it about? And when he explained that it's about how when everyone is offended, the censors have to censor everything, the students argued with him saying, no, it's about government censorship. And he's like, what? No, it's about how there's a passage in it where it's like if you insulted a cat, you offended cat owners, so you couldn't say that. And if you're like, what? No. It's about how, there's a passage in it where it's like, if you insulted a cat, you offended

cat owners, so you couldn't say that. And if you insulted dogs, dog owners got mad. And if you said anything about the trade unionists, the unions got mad, so you couldn't say that. So everything must be shut down because everyone's pissed off all the time. Right. That's where we're basically moving towards. We're like at the crux of that and that Vonnegut story where the ballet dancer has

to wear weights because it's not fair. I feel like we've gone Harrison Bergeron. Is it Bergeron? Yeah. It's like you could be saving a puppy and somebody would have something bad to say about it. Oh yeah. Yep. How dare you. That's the joke. Like Trump could run into a burning if Trump ran into a burning building. Like Cory

Booker did in New York. And ran out, clothes singed, covered in soot, carrying two babies and handed them to doctors, they would find a way to insult him and say, Donald Trump risked the lives of those babies because he wanted to look like a hero. He should have

left the firemen to do their job instead. That's what it would be. That's perfect. That's the anti-femme argument. Pedophile Donald Trump. Gets two babies. The austere scholar. That's what we refer to it as. Remember when Washington Post referred to, what was the guy's name? ISIS guy.

As an austere scholar. What? This guy who, it wasn't Khalid. What was the guy's name? It was, hold on. Right. It's been so long. I think I know the name, but I don't want to get it wrong.

Baghdadi. Baghdadi, yeah. Yes. been so long. I think I know the name, but I don't want to get it wrong. Baghdadi. Baghdadi, yeah. Yes. Oh, right. Washington Post criticized and lampooned over a Baghdadi headline. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. They said he was an austere religious scholar. Yes, he was also a murdering terrorist who kidnapped and raped women relentlessly. And they decided to call him

an austere scholar because they didn't want to give Donald Trump any kind of win over his military campaign. It's amazing. They deny that Donald Trump crossed the DMZ into North Korea. I've mentioned this to so many people that never happened. You're lying. Because they cannot accept Trump did good things. Right. They don't they they find ways to say that the abraham accords were bad you know even though that was like a really major peace agreement in a place where there's now war do you think it makes people more emboldened to speak positively about trump or other you know conservative figures they admire or does it make people withdraw uh i grew up in a really blue state. I grew up in Connecticut and I was always conservative.

You know, I've been this way for a long time, I guess. And it was something that I kind of, you always teeter on the edge of, especially when you're young and, you know, in school and you're trying to navigate that and be like, I don't know if I'm trying to start conflict all the time, but also that was a very different culture than if the media is up against you all the time.

All of your co-workers are against you. You know what I mean? Like people withdraw from talking about it or do they talk about it more? I think it really depends on the person. I think some people will talk about it more where other people will just be like, I'm going to keep that to myself or maybe stop having opinions. People are almost like afraid. Yeah. self or maybe stop having opinions like people are almost like afraid yeah we were talking about that before the show because your song came out and you had people that you know from your hometown who were like what were they saying you were telling me that they were like offended that

you released the song uh some of like the worst things it was just like uh we shouldn't care what she thinks just like just like people that you wouldn't like suspect to say such things like they can have their own opinion but the second that i do it's terrible like i'm wrong like i don't know yeah i mean that's the kind of thing that happens when you put yourself out there and you take a chance you're always going to have people who are just instantly instant detractors and saying that you shouldn't have a right to like, you know, speak your mind or make the artwork that you want to make. And if they disgrace you on one issue, everything about your your character is bad. Yeah. They judge your whole character based on one thing you believe in.

Yeah. Like back then, like you were talking earlier, like it never used to be like that. Like a Democrat could be married to a Republican and they talk about it at dinner and it would be over with. But now it's like some people commenting on my song, it was just like, I completely don't like her character anymore just because of that. And they don't know me. Just because you wrote a song defending the unborn. Right. Me and Chris were talking about this before the show, but it used to be you just wrote songs and released them and that was called art. And now it's different.

I remember that. I miss that. released them and that was called art and like now yeah it's different i remember that i missed that yeah art yeah we were saying that that it was you know when an artist actually would put out a song that just reflected who they were as a person and who they were as an artist that was just called an artist right you didn't and now god forbid you do that well now you have to be an activist artist you have to you have to, use, you have to create propaganda. Otherwise, no one. And you can't make art made by anyone who represents the wrong thing. Right. You can't distance yourself from being like, well, I like this song, but they vote differently.

Like you have to comply on every level and everyone, you know, has to be in the exact same level. If you're a progressive. And so that's sort of the interesting thing. And that's why I think you have conservatives and the conservative sort of movement isn't a machine. What you're talking about, Hannah Clare, is basically a machine. Everybody's in lockstep. Everyone's going to go along with the exact same perspective. You're going to shun anyone who disagrees with you, even on the most minute and small thing. And conservatives are just like, oh, I like Taylor Swift and I like,

you know, WC and I like whatever else. And I like I like modern art and I like Renaissance art. And, you know, I like fashion by this company and I also will shop over here. And so conservatives don't use their their sort of power in the same way and we did see in the past couple of years conservatives like changing that around and target felt the brunt of that disney felt the brunt of that and of course bud light you know felt the brunt of that and now you're seeing with some of the polling you know democrats are feeling some of that so we'll see what happens yeah and i think as as conservatives you know we're we're more of the, you know, let me do you. Let me do me and you do you.

And let's go on with it. You know, but I think on the other side, sometimes, like, just for instance, I was doing this show. It's been a few years ago. And I was waiting in the back of the show, you know, in the green room. And there was other people who worked there. I'm not going to say where it was. But say. Say where it was.

But there was just people getting married at this booth, and I was just tuning up. And it wasn't my show. I was actually asked to be on the show, so it wasn't my thing. Anyway, so this girl was being married. She said, didn't you get a something online to be a preacher and and he goes yeah he goes he goes I just wanted to do it and he said it really like screamed it I just wanted to do it to to piss off the Christian effing Republicans you know and it's just it was like a room full of eight people.

He didn't know any of us. And my dad just passed away. And let me tell you, he almost met a redneck. Would you have said something to him? Like, would you have said something to him? It was all I could do. And I sat there and said, this is not my show. This is not, you know, I don't want to mess this up for my buddy who wanted me on.

So we did the show. And after the show, I went looking for the guy just to tell him, you know, where that went for me. Yeah. And I couldn't find him. But I told the manager, I was like, man, I told him what happened. I said, I would never do that i would i would never do that in a in a crowd like that with my friends yeah whatever but he had no idea that that how deep that went with me do you think it's because he was around a lot of people who were like yeah oh absolutely are bad so he felt like it was a

socially normal thing to say yeah and and I think that that happens a lot. I think that it's just more, like on the left, you're more emboldened because you're surrounded by people who you have to think like that. And if you don't, you're shunned. Where with us, I think it's a little more... There's a little bit more back and forth. I think there's more empathy, too. There's more empathy. That's correct. Yeah. Absolutely. Individualism versus collectivism.

When we were talking about, you know, you're just an artist. You just put out music. It was art. It got me thinking about, like, Rage Against the Machine. Oh, yeah. Like, they were huge. Were they called activists and conspiracy theorists by the press when they would put out a song? No, they weren't. But I mean, I pulled up their lyrics to Guerrilla Radio, and it's like indistinguishable from the message of Alex Jones at the time.

But they would call Alex Jones a far right. At the time, they weren't really saying a lot of far right stuff. Then all of a sudden, by today's standards, Rage Against the Machine is pro-war machine. They work with the Democrats basically on voter initiative type stuff. Like not literally, but I mean like go vote. We're on the left. Support Ukraine. That kind of stuff.

Put on your mask. Take your vaccine. Which is crazy because it used to be the opposite of that. Like there was a lot of like Bob Dylan and all those guys back in, what was it, the 60s or something was against war. A lot of songs were. Yeah. I mean a lot of things changed too when you had the progressive left really embrace Obama

because what you had was a political movement that had been anti-authoritarian suddenly finding a leader who they rallied around. And so then they were like, oh, now we adore the president. Now we adore everything.

We love the establishment. We love the establishment. We love everything that he's telling us to do. And so now we're going to do it. So the the group of people who had been saying their whole time, you know, the boomers and the hippies and whatever question authority changed their minds and said, you know, really grabbed power, grabbed power that way, grabbed power over people, not even necessarily just institutionally, but power over people. And so then when Trump came in, it was such a betrayal because these were the people who wanted to love the White House. They wanted to love the leader. And suddenly they couldn't love the leader. So they were totally broken. That's why they started resistance before they even knew what any of the policies were like total morons. You know, that's just so ridiculous.

It always makes me think of, you know, the aspect of politics. That's just team sports, right? We like the White House when our guy, you know, if he has it, he's on the blue ticket, he's got a D on his shirt, you know, he's the one. But if it's those red guys with the Republican name, then we're out. And I think that is so indicative of the herd mentality that so many of the institutions in America right now want people to rely on. They don't want you to think critically about like, oh, well, I like this policy from this one guy. But, you know, on the other side of the aisle, this guy's policy is pretty good because it's much easier for them to work. Everyone says, oh, bipartisanship, and we need the bipartisanship. No, they don't. They want their party to be completely in power and every single one of their bills to pass with no help from the other side because it's easier for them.

They want, Democrats want one token Republican like Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney so they can call it a bipartisan bill. We represent the people. We're bipartisan. It's like, no, you're not. Shut up. Well, we saw that with January 6 where, what was it? Who was the House Speaker at the time? Was it McCarthy? McCarthy wanted to sit Jim Jordan and Jim Banks on the January 6th committee, and Nancy Pelosi said

absolutely not. We're not going to seat them and offered seats to Cheney and Kinzinger, And so you had the Republicans saying, we're not going to seat anybody. McCarthy said, we're not going to seat anybody. Then this is a totally illegitimate committee. And now for some reason, they're still honoring those subpoenas. Like, why didn't they rescind them right away? You know, it's like, I don't understand. I don't understand. It almost makes me wish they had seated somebody who would have really held everything up.

But they couldn't. I mean, Pelosi would not approve anybody, any of the hardliners, to sit on that committee. And somehow they let that committee go forward anyway. That was a big mistake. It's crazy. I don't know if they had the power to change it, but they should have protested it every chance they got. Well, they're filing now to basically nullify a lot of what they did. I hope that they actually do it in time. I mean, Bannon's supposed to report to what prison in Connecticut

on July 1st. Peter Navarro is already in prison in Miami. He already is. Yeah, he sure is. Yep. Yeah. They have they've arrested what is it like a dozen or so Trump associates, lawyers are being threatened with jail. I again, I don't know how you look at Trump's lawyers going to prison, his lawyers. Yeah. For offering him legal advice. I don't know how you look at Trump's lawyers going to prison, his lawyers, for offering him illegal advice. I don't see how you look at that and you think, like, this ends with Trump and Biden shaking hands and calling it good game. I don't see that. But Rachel Maddow is like, hey, they're going to do this completely new thing that we definitely don't do. They're going to prosecute me.

What are you talking about? For lying or something. I don't know. What did I ever do? It's different when we go off after the former president's lawyers. He deserves it because he is so bad. Like the logic is so ridiculous

because so much of it is personality based, right? The fact that the Biden administration- That's the issue they have. Trump has really moderate policies. Yeah, well, and the fact that the Biden administration has reintroduced so many of his border policies, they kind of quietly are like, oh, we made this big scene out of doing something,

but actually bad consequences there. It's like admitting- Well, they're pretending that they're doing it. They're pretending they're, right, exactly. And I think ultimately this is the real issue, which is like, no one wants to be like, we made a mistake. We went too far on that one

because they have built this narrative that electing Trump for second term would be the end of the nation as we know it and no one's life would get better and they have to keep that door closed to keep anything that they have said in the last decade legitimate right and it's not legitimate I mean again this is the same party that says like well it's you know you see every statement from Joe Biden right now it's like well it's the congressional Republicans that are doing all these bad things. Listen, they think men are women.

So, I mean, they are just liars. Look, they're liars and illogical, but we still have to deal with them because they're there. They think like, you know, 12-year-old girls should be able to get abortions without telling anybody about it or, you know, without telling their parents. They think illegal immigrants should just be able to hang out in the country until their court date when they won't be able to find them or deport them anyway. I thought they gave them phones, though, so they'd get a hold of them. Yeah, but you know what's been going on is people are ditching these phones so that they can't be tracked.

No way. I know. People who are illegally, who didn't want to register with the government, don't want to be tracked. This is a crazy thing. It's almost like it's so logical that we could have seen it coming. I wonder why they don't want to be tracked after ditching

their IDs at the border so that they could assume a new identity. Well, they're really scared. They don't know what to do. Well, they just want Buffalo Wild Wings. Right? Who doesn't, frankly? That's an actual quote from an illegal immigrant who came to the United States, interviewed by LA Times. They said, why are you coming here? And they said, I miss Buffalo Wild Wings. Right? Who doesn't, frankly? That's what it comes down to. That's an actual quote from an illegal immigrant who came to the United States, interviewed by LA Times. They said, why are you coming here?

And they said, I miss Buffalo Wild Wings. And it was at that point I realized, they really are just like us. Have Buffalo Wild Wings responded to that? I don't know, but I love B-Dubs. Hopefully Buffalo Wild Wings invested heavily wherever they were. Dude, I just, come on. Everybody, you gotta sympathize

with that. Like, wow. Damn. You can't come in, but I do understand why you got to sympathize, empathize with that. Like, wow, damn. You can't come in, but I do understand why you want to be here because B-Dubs is awesome. They had a coyote with a sponsor come in. It's like, Buffalo Wild Wings. I love this story because Mexico has Buffalo Wild Wings. And so when this caravan was coming to the U.S. and an L.A. Times Times reporter was like what are you coming for? One guy said I want my PlayStation back which I left in America

when they deported me and then another person was like I miss Buffalo Wild Wings and I'm like yo I've been to Mexico City and I went to Buffalo Wild Wings and it was fantastic Was it better than Buffalo Wild Wings? I've never had a bad experience at Buffalo Wild Wings That's good to know. They have not paid me to say that it's just how do you go wrong with

chicken and barbecue sauce and like all the different sauces you know you know i'm like you give me i don't do blue cheese no ranch all the way ranch i like but they have like 10 sauces and i'm like i can have chicken in 10 different sauces america is an amazing country let me tell you but as an aside this is why this is why illegal immigrants want to come here. I use the Buffalo Wildlings thing because it's kind of funny. It's like, ha ha, we get it. Yeah, but they like Pizzeria Uno's, man. They like KFC.

They like Portillo's in Chicago. All these things are good. I mean, these are all good things. We have fat homeless people. They're like, I got to get that. Well, this is why it's taking so long for our civilization to collapse. I mean, we built it really big, you know, on top of like a mountain of chicken bones.

So many different sauce bottles you would not even believe. That's what the real plastic in the ocean is. The garlic parmesan. I was gonna say the garlic parmesan. That's my favorite. Oh, yeah. I'm so hungry right now. It is so Friday night. And now all these, you know these illegal marines are coming here the the the reality of it is we're laughing and joking but i really do

think that hits at the heart of why america is awesome variety options low cost oh sure we have so many great things a chinese food restaurant every street corner a starbucks you wake up you get coffee for lunch you get general so's chicken and chicken, and for dinner you get Thai food or you get Indian food. It's just all here. Well, that's a funny thing about when you're hanging out with your friends and you're trying to figure out what you're going to eat. You don't say like, oh, do you want to go to this restaurant or that? You say like, do you want Indian, Chinese, Korean? Do you want soul food?

Korean barbecue. So good. Oh, man. I always want Mexican food. Me too. There Korean barbecue. So good. Oh, man. I always want Mexican food. Me too. There's chips and queso. Oh, yeah. We have Salvadorian restaurants where we are right now.

Really? Yeah. And it's awesome because it's a lot of arepas instead of tortillas. A lot of people, a lot of Salvadorans in the U.S. are going back to El Salvador. Yep. Because things are going really well. I love to hear it. I met a guy.

And, you know, it's like reverse brain drain, which I think is great. I mean, I would love to see South America really it. But the way asylum works right now is like, let's bring in a lot of people under asylum who are just staying here. Who are not actually qualified for asylum. Who are not qualified for asylum. I mean, that's the thing that immigration attorneys will tell you is once they get to the court date, it turns out that, you know, those who actually end up in court are not qualified. And also everything remains chaotic abroad. And then we were like, bah, we gotta, we gotta be involved there and probably send them some money. and maybe we should send some secret troops there and you know it's just what what point are we saying don't we have guys not working now basically i mean i we have 3 000

people in jordan i'm sure we have people in uk ukraine seems like we should send american food businesses to mexico to open there and bring our culture to Mexico. I mean, all of these things do exist abroad. There are probably people you could talk to who are like, oh, we choose not to invest there because crime is really bad or something else. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of American countries go to El Salvador because so much has changed, right? They're saying, well, and that would be great. I mean, there's, you know, it would be great to revitalize these places, especially if

they get their crime under control. We are here looking at Mexico City. Let's turn satellite on. Are these all the Buffalo Wild Wings? No, these are KFCs. Oh, these are KFCs? A lot of KFCs. Nice.

A lot of KFCs. Let's just, what else do we search for? Burger King. Yeah, I was going to say Burger King. Well, that's sort of a gimme. Maybe like Taco Bell. Yeah, Taco Bell. Are there Taco Bell in Mexico? I don't think Taco Bell is in Mexico. Let's find out. Okay, look at all these Burger King. Yeah, I was going to say Burger King. Well, that's sort of a gimme. Maybe like Taco Bell. Yeah, Taco Bell. Are there Taco Bell in Mexico?

I don't think Taco Bell is in Mexico. Let's find out. Okay, look at all these Burger Kings. Mexico City's awesome. I have always wanted to go there. What about Culver's? Oh my gosh! No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I mean Taco Inn. Okay. This is like good tacos. Yeah, Taco Bell probably tastes horrible. I bet those are good tacos. Well, the story is that Taco Bell tried to open in Mexico, calling themselves American food, and nobody wanted it. Yeah.

The guy who started Taco Bell, I think his name was Frank Bell. His last name was Bell. There we go. He initially wanted to open a hamburger stand. Buffalo Wild Wings. Look at that. They're all over, too. There's one, two, three, let's see, four.

No, that's different. It looks like there's five. No, no, no, that's different. It looks like there's five. No, no, no, that's different. It looks like there's four. There's a wild wings. Four buffalo wild wings. That's a lot for a city, right? Mexico City is pretty big.

So, but it's there. It is there for you. And you can have all of the sauces. Did you know that you can actually- All the sauces. You get garlic parmesan and then you can still dip it in barbecue sauce. You don't need to come to the United States. That's America. You can stay there and, and then you can still dip it in barbecue sauce.

You don't need to come to the United States. That's America. You can stay there and do it. I do like the double dip. Well, that's what really bugged me is because the caravan came here. And guacamole. Mexico offered asylum to everyone. They said, you will all receive asylum in Mexico. And they were a boo.

And then they yelled, who wants to keep going? And they were like, yeah. It's like, Mexico is awesome. Like, Mexico City is not a bad place. No, it doesn't seem bad. It's nice. They've got nice areas. They got bad areas like every city.

And they have Buffalo Wild Wings. I get it. But they also have Burger King. They have McDonald's. They have Starbucks. You go to Mexico City, you go to the mall. They probably have some good local places. But it's like people love America so much that they will skip over this just to come here yeah there's not

big large caravans of immigrants trying to get in some of these countries it's it's always us well or the uk yeah i mean there's a huge right yeah there's a huge situation in the uk or germany i want to i want to do this i want to jump to one last story before we get to the music and everything because this one i just found really funny from mediaite plus aoc hits back at neo-nazi nick fuentes after he praises her claim that democrats only support israel out of fear of apac okay well what actually happened this is really funny nick fuentes tweeted okay look we gotta start at the beginning uh also i i i also don't believe that nick fuentes is a neo-na. I believe they're just attacking him over that. He's an America first anti-Israel personality.

I think that's you can call him what he is. So AOC tweets, an unspoken secret in Congress is that much of the reflexive, blind, unconditional vote support for nearly any Israeli government action isn't from actual agreement. It's from fear. Reps are terrified of this, of AIPAC. So they don't vote their conscience. They vote their fear. Fuentes says AOC is more America first than 99 percent of Republicans. You cannot deny Nick Fuentes complimented AOC over her position on Israel. We have even had people who have superchatted to us that they would vote for Joe Biden if Joe Biden

came out opposed to Israel. That is how many of these people feel when it comes to Israel. But being called America first is not a compliment for AOC. She said, you are a white supremacist and I want nothing to do with you nor the world you imagine. I believe in a multiracial democracy, one of economic rights, civil liberties, and that affirms the working class and the rights of women and LGBTQ people. These are not small differences. They're irreconcilable.

White supremacy is a scourge and must be disavowed in all places. What's really funny is all Nick said was that she was right. Right. She lost her mind. That was such an uncalled for response. She lost her mind over this. She lost her mind because AOC believes that your supporters are

indicative of who you are personally. Yeah. So she's not comfortable being supported by someone that she perceives of in these terms. Yeah, I she's not comfortable being supported by someone that, you know, she perceives of in these terms. Yeah. I'm going to reference Gilmore Girls here, but she says, get off my side. Like, I don't want you to be the person supporting me because I think that you will make me look less appealing to my own voters, regardless of what the statement is. Right. She could have ignored this. She opted to respond because one, she thinks dunking on Nick will,

I don't know if you can call this a dunk, but, like, responding to Nick like this will make her seem even more like this wonderful person. She's going to, you know, talk down to this terrible, terrible guy from the Internet. You know what I mean? Like, it's so stupid and performative. She could have let it just roll off her. Instead, she is so afraid to be associated with him that she has to respond, like, in hysterics. She gave her virtue signal bona fides. But it won't matter because she

criticized israel and she will continue and fuentes will praise her for doing so that like they look fuentes has his views and aoc criticizing israel and apac aligns with what fuentes his worldview and america first individuals groper's or otherwise are not afraid of being aligned with aoc they don't care aoc is terrified of being aligned with AOC. They don't care. AOC is terrified of being aligned with Nick Fuentes, however, because they are tribalists who care more about what their tribe thinks of them than what they actually are concerned with politically. Well, and this also speaks to what we were talking about before,

where it used to be that you could share some views with a person and not others. And now it's like if you don't subscribe to a person's entire program, you don't want anything to do with them. You don't even, you know, you don't even want to share a tweet with them. She probably reported him to X for harassment. She was like, this is bullying.

He has to get away from me. I'm not associated with this. Right. This is probably an emergency meeting for her staff, right? While they all sat there and drafted this. And she was like, we, if you were trying to hurt your cause, do what Nick is doing. Coming out and saying this about AOC puts AOC in panic mode. Right.

If Nick's real plan was to harm the Democratic position, you would do exactly that. The idea of coming out and saying so like one of the criticisms is that he calls himself America First. That's the name of like his group, his conference. And so what does America First mean? It means America gets its expense money on itself. It doesn't go to foreign wars. It takes care of its own borders before dealing with anyone else around the world.

Then Nick Fuentes gets up on stage, you know, figuratively, and he and he yells independence from Israel. And instantly now, the idea of supporting America is now attached to the brand that is just Israel bad. Well, there are a lot of people in America who don't really care all that much about Israel, and they care about America. But what Fuentes does merges the PR campaign. Again, not saying it's intentional, but it's fairly obvious this is detrimental to the efforts of protecting America.

This is why AOC is freaking out. It's bad for her to be in alignment with Nick, no matter what Nick does. It's the same is true for the idea of being America first. It is detrimental to that idea of being associated with Nick Fuentes.

Whether it's his fault or the media's fault or otherwise doesn't matter. Right. And I mean, it works for Nick to be able to point out like, hey, this is actually an American first position because any one of her supporters that was like, I believe in this, you know, I think they'll probably panic and freak out. But there might be someone who is like, oh, is that what America first means to be against this?

Oh, and it might just linger there. Right. It may not change change hearts and minds immediately. But to point out that like this is actually what we were talking about or whatever it's interesting um what the long-term effect could be here's a great ai generated image oh my god wow that's crazy that's just in response yeah melania only how would you ever throw over Melania? No, the former supermodel. No, no. That's crazy.

I think that one of the worst parts of Trump's first term in office was the way they treated Melania. Vogue has offered every first lady a cover, but they didn't offer the supermodel a cover because she's married to no one would dress her too you ended up with um what's his name a project runway winner christian siriano being like i will dress you uh which i think is cool adam first lady i did too i thought it was cool too um and i think dolce and gabbana continued dress yeah a couple people did i think she did some stuff with maybe ralph lauren i could be totally wrong there well ralph lauren is doing the he always does the olympic uniforms which are weird this year they are kind of i'm not into the jeans you can't really run in jeans no it's very weird the outfit that they're gonna wear for opening ceremonies is like blazer and button down on top with the jeans on bottom it looks like they i was the first wealthy man in america to wear that remember from the simpsons do you guys remember anyway

uh no i think that this is this is all sort of a similar thing, like bringing up Melania and the fact that these designers are like, I can't be associated with you because your husband is terrible, even though actually if they had stayed private citizens, they would have begged to dress her, right? The wife of Donald Trump. Yeah, exactly. I think this is something Americans get tired of,

though. This this sin by association. I think people start to say, like, it's too complicated and everybody is a target at all times. And I just want to be able to move forward with my life. We were opposed to it, our founding. That's why, like, you don't go to prison for your parents debts. We had Richard Spencer on the culture war today they they called him the most prominent white nationalist back in the first trump you know era or whatever and i think it's funny because you know he never really was that big i'm not kidding like how many followers did he have on twitter like 80 000 it's like a lot of people sure but there were people with millions who were supporting trump but they wanted him to be their boogeyman for the way he looked and the way he spoke. It fit their media narrative. And they went after him. And this is not for me to say that, like, I agree with him politically. Of course, I don't. That's the point of having him on a debate show. And then after the show ended, he said, can I get a selfie? I said, yeah. And I'm like, I am so sick of the far left and the stupid games they play of like you hosted this person that means

you support him there was a i interviewed some alt-right guys back in like 2016 and there's a picture of me at a restaurant where they were all eating and i'm sitting there and they're like we got him he's sitting there eating food and i was like that's right i was like look he's hiding and i'm like no i'm sitting at a table it's always been this always been the stupidest thing to me that this is the world they try to live in. And I'm like, dude, we've we've had communists come through these doors and I've taken pictures with them. We've had conservatives and Richard Spencer came on the show and I got a picture with

him, too. I don't you can you can accuse me of I'm going to interview as many people as I can. I interviewed a former Soviet general once. I am not a Soviet nor a communist. How did that go as I can. I interviewed a former Soviet general once. I am not a Soviet nor a communist. How did that go? It was interesting. Yeah, it sounds interesting.

In Ukraine, actually. And I also interviewed a Brazilian favela gang leader. This does not make me a Brazilian favela gang member. But are you sure? Or an advocate for gang members. Yeah, it's so stupid. I think the problem is, you know, we should want journalists or people in media to want to sit down with someone who's completely different than them, not to like score points, but to be like, tell me what your positions are. Let's spell this out. Let's have this conversation and understand what's going on. But instead, especially mainstream media is so afraid that if they have anyone come on that doesn't fit their narrative and any of their points make sense, that they are then going to face some sort of backlash or that they are emboldening whatever thought crime they think that person is committing

i think it's actually a threat to them i think it's actually i mean uh shows like this shows like joe rogan that actually sit down with both sides doing the thing that they don't do it's actually journalism the way that they that it used to be, and now it's gotten so far away from that. Like we were saying before, it's gotten so one-sided that shows like this and shows like Joe's, it's killing. It's killing them because it's showing both sides, and they can't say, well, he said this.

Well, if you're talking to someone for two hours straight instead of getting a three-second clip, then you actually know the whole story. And it's a detriment to them. Do you think that people want their news to expose them to new information or to confirm their own bias, though? Yeah, well, I think they want to confirm their own bias. Journalism used to be different where it was about like, here's this brand new take. Here's another side. Here's something you've maybe never heard of or seen before. Or here's a difficult conversation I'm having with someone who I don't see eye to eye with.

But more and more, you know, I think MSNBC, right? They don't want their viewers to click away when they're like, oh, I don't think that person's saying something they should. So they'll just say, well, what do you want to hear? And we'll play it for you all day long, 24 seven. Right. Absolutely. And it's just a, you know, when their jobs actually should be like, like I said before, hear both sides and you make up your own mind instead of you know the bias thing that we have now on both sides right just being like here's the information you decide they don't want that anymore right which i think people should be insulted by because basically you're too stupid to think about this critically yeah we think you'll come to the wrong conclusion and we can't allow that

that's actually the position of the corporate press. When the New York Times wrote that article saying, stop thinking critically. Right. Don't do it. It'll lead you down rabbit holes. You don't want to go. They're like, please stop not being brainwashed because we're trying so hard. Yeah.

Yeah. But that's why I think culture is so important because a lot of people get their messaging through art. Yeah. They don't read the news all day every day. They're busy. They're fixing pipes. They're building houses. They're fixing cars.

They're paving roads. They're working in hospitals. They're treating the ill. And so their entire day is going to be, look, man, we just got done laying a concrete foundation. I did not follow anything in politics today and then what happens they turn on the tv show and on the tv they're saying donald trump is going to start putting migrants in concentration camps and so their worldview is crafted around these psychopaths in hollywood at least the narratives they're pushing and their movies but i think then you, what's happened,

especially with podcasts and stuff is people are working and they're playing these shows in the background. And so they are starting to be more and more informed. It's becoming easier to be more informed. And then when they turn the TV on and they see that, they turn it off. Ratings get worse. Industry fails.

Get woke, go broke. Right. I think people get passionate about things too. That's what I noticed during COVID and the pandemic and everything. People started to be like, well, I don't really understand, so I have to do some of my own research. And I think that made people begin to say like, oh, maybe I should do this about more things. Maybe the information I'm getting is something I need to more critically look at and pursue what's actually going on. I think the remnants of institutional trust really were shaken and destroyed during that time

because people got so much conflicting information and felt like the sources they were relying on led them the wrong direction. But there was even a poll out from Rasmussen the other day that said most people now don't trust graduates of Ivy League schools. They don't trust those schools. And those schools are no longer stewards of American culture. They just aren't. Yeah. But I suppose we should play some music. Let's do that.

Let's do it. Let's have more culture. You guys ready? Yeah. We're going to hear the song, I Was Gonna Be. You can go to song.link slash Rachel. And it's R-A-C-H-E-L.

Correct? Okay. Yes. And you can buy the song onC-H-E-L. Correct? Okay. And you can buy the song on iTunes. If you want to support the song, you should listen to it first, of course. And if you like it, you should buy it. And then, just maybe, it'll be interesting to see what happens when the corporate press loses their mind over a pro-life song. A song criticizing abortion

hits the billboard charts. And we're getting set up. Do we have the camera? Hit it. Is this the first time we've had live music in this studio? In this one, yeah. Wow. That's why we have the music corner.

Oh. It's going to look better eventually. Oh, yeah. Right. So these are the old studio cameras. And you can tell, like, the main studio cameras we used for the show have been a massive upgrade. And then these were the old music studio cameras. I've had so many people say to yes they were right there yeah oh wow that sounds great

do the uh you want to do the uh can you hear me i was also also... Check, check. Yep. So pretty cool thing. We actually got a sponsorship for this song called Patriot Mobile. And it's a really cool thing because like they support pro-life and this song just goes hand in hand with that. So I think you'll really like it. Go to patriotmobile.com slash Rachel. Yeah. And you actually get a free month. Get a free month. With my code. Here we go. All right.com slash Rachel. Yeah, and you actually get a free month of my code.

All right. I was going to be. I was going to be. Some don't believe I'm a living soul Just a bad mistake that needs to go If my mama could have just seen my face Maybe she would have had me anyway And there are those who speak for me You would have had me anyway And there are those who speak for me

Who fight for lives that they can't see And there are some who only mourn This life of mine if I were born And all I wanted was a chance To learn to love and laugh and dance But I was gone before I arrived Sent back to heaven on a starlight flight I was gonna change

the world And I was gonna be a girl The first thing I was gonna do Was breathe and fall in love with you But a couple of weeks before I saw the light Mine flickered out when you changed your mind All I wanted was a chance To learn to love and laugh and dance

But I was gone before I arrived Sent back to heaven on a starlight flight I was gonna have some pretty curls I was gonna be a girl I'm more than just someone I stand or some burden that you

think I am and there ain't no man who's ever gonna be what I was gonna be Some don't believe I'm a living soul Just a bad mistake that needs to go Wow! I love you. up this song on iTunes. That was awesome. You guys got another one you want to play? Sure. Alright. Oh, here he goes, coming out of drop D. Okay.

What's this next one called? It's called Ammunition. Alright. Just recorded this one about a week ago. Yeah. You know, this one kind of... Deep, right? I think so. Okay, we'll try it.

It's your hope. In your movie, I'm always the villain While I'm getting hurt You're playing the victim You're hating on me like it's your religion So go ahead and do your best Do your best, do your best Bring it, knock me, tear me, rock me, mow me down

Lord, your words take your reign, but take me out Keep on shooting and missing if it makes you feel strong And I'll keep stocking up on ammunition Every war you start, every war you're building Is like a bullet in a gun on a suicide mission How's it feel to be a warden in your own prison All the bitter things that you do

are gonna come back on you So bring it and hug me tear me, rock me, mow me down Lord your words take your reign but take me out keep on shooting and missing if it makes you feel strong and maybe one day you'll

get a taste of your own ambition Ambition You can only fire so many times Till you hear the click of what you did And then it's my turn Oh, it's my turn So bring it, knock me, tear me, rock me, mow me down Hold your words, take your aim and take me out Keep on shooting and missing if it makes you feel strong

And I'll keep sucking up on ammunition On ammunition And I'll keep sucking up on the ammunition On the ammunition That was cool. Wow. Thank you. That was great. I liked that a lot. Yeah, I liked that one.

That was really fun. Yeah, I liked that one. Yeah, it was cool. I like the guitar on that, Chris. That was great. Oh, I like that one. That was really fun. Yeah, I like that one. That was cool. I like the guitar on that, Chris. That was great. Yeah. All right.

Well, we can read some Super Chats. Maybe, I don't know if Carter's got something. All right. We got 20 minutes. We'll read some Super Chats. Carter Banks is in the house,

so play something. We got a new song that we're working on as well we actually just filmed the music video a lot of stuff currently in the works and

hoping Ben Shapiro will be in it oh that'd be fun very cool yeah cause violin is we call for violin so we're reaching out

does he play violin? very very well how about that yeah he's like super good at it that's very cool and I was like dude it would be it would be based i think the uh this this song that we have definitely

lines up very strongly with a lot of conservative messaging i don't want to say too much about it i think i might have mentioned it what what it was about in the members only show or whatever but that's why you should become a member at timcast.com well yeah i mean when you're watching the member show i say a lot of stuff that i don't say on the main show because i'm not supposed to and i get yelled at later because i'm like joe biden i have handlers no it's because they're like trump he's like this is the thing we're doing and everyone's like that was supposed to be a secret well because like the people who are like you know especially like i'll talk to phil and i'll be like should i just come out and say it and phil's like dude dude dude come on

like we're not you you gotta wait you can't just come out and say and then like the song is still getting edited and, dude, come on. We're not, you gotta wait. You can't just come out and say, and then like the song is still getting edited and everything, and I'm just like, well, here's what's happening. And then they're like, all right, I guess. You know, Tim just came out and told everyone. All right, let's go. Clint Torres is the first super chat saying,

howdy people. He always gets the howdy people. Hoppa San, San, says howdy people as well. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, if you keep saying it ags will listen and act well it's a civil it's a constitutional suit i'm looking for criminal prosecutions but you know okay okay we'll take a move in the right direction you know summer is 19 says i bought the song thank you that's uh song.link slash rachel on the website uh click the link in the description

below on the internet i mean and uh you can get it, I think, iTunes. But I will say this. They keep changing the rules to try and prevent songs like this from charting. Yep. Did you guys co... Chris wrote the song and then...

Yeah, Chris was like halfway through it when he met me. And then he ended up finishing it. Okay. Yeah, and like I said, it was one of those things where it was... I was just writing it for me to get it out of me, you know? And so, honestly, I didn't think anybody would ever sing it.

It just had to come out of me. Yeah. And when we met her, it was just like one of those things. How did you guys meet? So my dad, growing up, played bluegrass music, along with my grandpa and everything. He actually played at the Opry, didn't he? Yeah, my grandpa did years ago.

Yeah, that's very cool. A band called The Vorbys from Indiana. But anyway, my dad grew up with this buddy. His name is Jamie Johnson. Not the one with the big beard, but you know. He started a band down here forever ago. So he's been in Nashville. He's been there for about 20 years and he ended up meeting Chris one night.

Was it a bar? I've known Jamie for 20 years. Yeah. Yeah, a long time ago. Yeah, but he just called me one day and he said, I hear what you're doing with Bassed Records and you just really need to hear this girl, you know. And I hear that a lot.

I hear it, I'm like, okay. But with her, she's got a lot of things going for her. And like I said, the work ethic, though, that she had at a young age, she just turned 18. So you guys started working together when you were still in high school? Well, we started talking to her at around 17, but we weren't going to sign anything until she was 18. Yeah, we signed in January.

When's that second song, Ammunition? That's going to be on her EP. We're working on that right now. That was a good one. The actual recording. The recording sounds so good. It was cool. Just as a musician, the structure, the melody.

I don't want to disrespect anybody publicly on their music but I was listening publicly on their music, but I was listening to some other music earlier and I was like, what is wrong with these musicians? I'm talking to my girlfriend and we're both in agreement that there's this song that came on the streaming and we're just like, how does this stuff make it? It's

amelodic. It's as generic as it comes. I'm saying this because that second one was great. I'd put it on my playlist right now. That was awesome. I wanted to be like when is that coming out you know i feel like people that even don't listen to country just because it has such a good groove to it yeah that's like it yeah yeah it's cool yeah they're both great and and you know with us too it's it's it's kind of it fits us too because it's kind of you know it's kind of fighting back like okay go ahead and give it to me you'll get yours you know it's kind of got that sass to it, too, you know.

We got Carter who's going to jam a song. What do you got? Well, this is an oldie but a goodie, I guess. This is an acoustic version of a song that I made with my band Traveler called Breathe. And it goes like this. Is it tuned? I think so. Drop D.

Okay. Oh, no, it's not now. Sorry. And you so seek the truth Like it's gonna be therapy Take another step at me And you're only gonna hurt yourself Make no bones, the curtain's gonna close

And the credits are rolling down Wish I could say it wasn't so Tell me, tell me how do you suggest I catch my breath? With your hands wrapped around my neck so tightly I beg you, loosen up your grip Baby, what good am I to you, dear? With your hands wrapped around my neck so tightly You were sucking the air out of my lungs

Like chain smoke cigarettes I gotta let you know You gotta let me go I tried hiding the truth at the tip of my tongue I wish I could say it wasn't so No Oh, oh Tell me, tell me how do you see your chest? I catch my breath

With your hands wrapped around my neck so tightly I beg you, loosen up your grip Baby, what good am I to you, loosen up your grip Baby, what good am I to you, dear? With your hands wrapped around my neck so tightly 🎵 Tell me, tell me, how do you see just I catch my breath With your hands wrapped around my neck so tightly Up your grip, baby, what good am I to you? Dead with your hands wrapped around my neck so tightly. That is called Breathe.

Tim, do you got one? Yeah. All right. We are in D, though. We're in D? But I can put you on not D. Libby, don't you want to be in a band now? Yeah.

Yeah, are they in a band together? Yeah. So Carter's our music producer with Trash House. I'll just turn it up. Tim a lot. But you were in a... Yeah, there's actually one inside the guitar. He's far away.

He was in a band, I think, before he got here. So it is interesting how many people have music backgrounds and sort of end up being multi-skilled. I'm going to just keep talking while they set this up. I like the live music Fridays. I think that should always be the thing. It's great. I showed up and they both put out a guitar.

I'm like, does everybody play the guitar here? That's how I feel. Everyone here skates and plays like multiple instruments and I'm like, hello, it's me. I don't do any of those things. No, there's not. Well, you're a painter

and you've got all kinds of art. I ski and paint. I swear my only hobby right now is like walking. I'm like, that's not good. I tried to ski once.

I went to the ER that day. Oh no. I bike. That doesn't no. I bike. That doesn't count. I'd never bike on a ramp. You're also like a playwright. You've done, you have a huge,

a really diverse background. Yeah. That's what led you into this direction. I have a lot of weird stuff I've done, that's for sure. I wonder if you will see

a rise in sort of arts refugees into conservative stuff. You know, I've been looking for them and there are a fair number, but they're afraid. The intro to Tim's next song sounds exactly like someone tuning a guitar. This is the song. That was it. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for listening to that song. I'm done. I is the song. That was it. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for listening

to that song. I'm done. I'm leaving now. I am not practiced, nor warmed up, and I'm going to play anyway, because no one ever said, no one ever described me as scared of large crowds or not lacking ego. go. See if I remember how to play it.

Remember when We used to hope for peace But villains weren't only on TV screens My heart is made up of broken hopes and dreams I'll take my place in mediocrity Taking more, taking spite of this Focus on the ways Guess you never changed that day It's hard to believe that you mean

nothing to me Cause you used to mean everything Remember when we used to fight for peace But heroes were only on TV screens

The market's made up Of broken hopes and dreams So take your place in this story Take it more Take in spite of this this story taking more taking spite of this focus on the ways I really wished you'd change that day

it's hard to believe that you mean nothing to me cause you used to mean everything There are words in a book About what we've been through And there are lines in a script

Written for me and you. Take it all inside and pray it works. Another aching in your heart starts to burn. Take in more, take in spite of this And focus on the ways I really hope you'll change someday It's hard to believe but I'm moving on with my dreams Cause you were never there for me There were words in a book

About what we've been through And there are words in a script Written for me and you So take it all inside and pray it works Another aching in your heart starts to burn That's a wrap. That's like the only one I ever actually have ready to go, so I don't think there's anything else after that. When did you start playing guitar, Tim?

When I was 12. When I was 12? When you were 12. Did you play other instruments too, or was it like guitar first? Drums first. I started playing drums when I was probably seven. Because a lot of kids start on piano, right? Do you play that too?

Nope. But as long as I only use the white keys, I know how to make music with it. Well, there you go. Yeah. Or if it's like pre-recorded weird keyboard synth stuff. She's making an auto-tune for piano. An auto-tune? Carter's guessing an auto-tune for piano.

That'd be interesting. Did you find that you were just learning chords? Or was there, like, what was the first song you ever learned to play on guitar? The Kids Aren't Alright by The Offspring. Just because you loved it? Yeah, it's really wild to have them, like, the guitarist blocked me on Twitter. I'm like, that was the first song I ever learned.

That's crazy. Oh my god, that's hilarious. I don't know if I'm allowed to play that on... Yeah, I was just thinking that. It's my favorite song to play, though. It's a great song. Copyrighted, so. I hope you don't have to unblock you to then be like,

you can't play my song. I think you're allowed to play covers, right? There is a house in New Orleans. That might be public domain. They call. No, not yet. It. They call. No. No, not yet. It's not yet?

No. Because it was an old song. The rising sun. It's been the ruin of many a poor boy. And God, I know I'm one. What was the hardest song you ever learned how to play? I don't know. You don't know?

I'm going to stop before they give us a strike. Again! Another one! Okay. I can't play this one. It's been too long. I can't play this one. It's been too long. I can't do it. Oh, yeah.

Give me my electric. I'm kidding. I'm not actually going to play it. We're done. I love Music Fridays. I think we should do this all the time. And I really like that this new studio space has, like, you guys included that when you were making this space. Because I think.

I agree. I think that's awesome. We used to do them all the time a couple years ago. Every Friday night we'd jam. But, like, you know, after a while it's like we're playing the same songs that we always played. But we have a lot of different songs. I think, like, Carter and I have, like I think Carter and I have written down 30 or something. Man, there's like an Excel sheet or a numbers sheet.

Yeah, there's like 36 songs in there. And there's got to be like 18 officially in the works. There's got to be like 12 we've tracked full on. For an album, ultimately, is the goal? Yeah, it's funny because we do have, like, the code name is Oligarch. We're not really calling it that. But it's, like, done.

It's been done for a year. Pretty much, yeah. Like, it's so done that I'm going back trying to figure out, is there anything else I can do? Now it's not done. But, like, yeah, it's been done. It's like a dance song, isn't it? Yeah, well, that was kind of, yeah, that's a good one.

We're still trying to figure out whether it should be that way, but I think that'll definitely be coming out. The Coming, well, Coming Home is the name of the song. Already said it. I think I already mentioned it. Okay, good. The next song we're putting out is called Coming Home. Right.

I wonder if you can figure out what that one's about. Going on a trip? That's it, yeah. It's about coming back from a European vacation. You partied a little too hard. No. Exactly. A different kind of person who comes home and what that means and why it matters to people who care about this country.

Which wasn't even supposed to be on the album at all, so we have an additional album song now. So this was a partial song that I had written, and then Carter, Phil, and I sat down and finished it in like 10 minutes. It was amazing. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But, yeah. Very catchy. Very fun.

You guys did this chorus. You guys were absolutely amazing. Wow, that was awesome. Ammunition's so good. Yeah, it's really good. Oh, man. That's a killer track. We've got to have you guys come back when that one comes out, too.

When is that one supposed to come out? It'll be on the EP. Yeah, we're doing an EP right now, and that's on it. So yeah, we're... There's a song called How Dare Me on there. I think it's my all-time favorite that we've recorded.

Yeah. How Dare Me. I like that. That's pretty cool. One of the things we were talking about doing is that Friday's trying to aim for guests that play music so that we could do the jams and have them play because otherwise it's like we just play the same songs every

friday right but yeah libby you're gonna have a few people in mind i've been making a list you have a list of people i actually sound somewhat intimidating well no no it's musicians oh okay it's a friendly band yeah but let's uh let's like i guess'll get to it. Do you guys want to shout anything out as we wrap up? Your socials, where they can find the song? Yeah, like I said earlier, you can find the song on all streaming platforms, but also the mobile company that sponsored it, Patriot Mobile.

You can use my code. It's just patriotmobile.com slash Rachel, and you can get a free month. And also, yeah, you can find socials at Bass Records, and then my Instagram, Rachel Nicole Holt, the Chris Wallen. Well, and she also, I was going to say, too, we also have merch and everything for the song as well on bassrecords.com, too. Go there and, you know, buy and look at the merch and check us out.

We're also going to start a membership. You guys inspired us. You guys do such an amazing job on your membership. It's crazy. B-A-S-T, like the hat right there. Yeah, it's B-A-S-T. Do you have a personal social media

handle? Yeah, everything is TheChrisWallin. Cool. Libby, I bet you want to shout out a certain publication that we all Do you have a personal social media handle? Yeah, everything is thechriswallen, at thechriswallen. Cool. Libby, I bet you want to shout out a certain publication that we all love. Thank you so much, Hannah Clare. I would be glad to.

I'm Libby Emmons. You can find me on Twitter, as I still call it, at Libby Emmons. And, of course, check out all the great work we're doing at thepostmillennial.com and humanevents.com. Also, I have a new newsletter, but I haven't tweeted about it yet. Is this exclusive breaking news that you have a new newsletter? I know. Well, it was proposed that we do a newsletter for me and I was like, okay. But then I was like, I don't want to just do a random newsletter with random stuff. So I'm like picking the content and doing a little like doing a little writing in the

newsletter every day. If I ask you, will you print it out and deliver it to me personally every day? No, but I will tell whoever it is and they can email it to you. I'm excited for that. It's been fun. I just started this week. So that's good. Well, I'm Hannah Claire Rimlow. I'm no longer the dictator of TimCast IRL, but maybe one day if another root canal comes through. No, I'm just kidding. Comes through. Choice words. Look, it was my only chance at power. I've got to mourn the loss. No, no, I'm obviously glad that Tim is feeling better.

I'm so glad we could have a Music Friday in the new studio. It's really cool. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. That's Scanner News. You can follow all of our work at Timcast News on Twitter and Instagram. We have an amazing team. I'm really appreciative of everything they do, especially for Chris Carr.

Like I said, he was a huge help last night. If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Instagram at HannahClaire.B, and I'm on Twitter at HannahClaireB. Thanks for everything you do. Bye, Serge or Carter. What's up? I think this is the camera I'm supposed to be looking at.

Anyway, thank you all both for coming out. This was really fun. I'm glad we christened the new studio with some music. I'm Carter Banks, and all things music and Trash House related for TimCast. And if you want to follow me personally, I'm just at CarterBanks everywhere, except for Instagram. There's a 4L on the end.

That's it. Is this now bye, Serge? Bye, Serge! Bye, Serge. It's not on me anymore, but later, guys. See you later. All right, everybody. That's it. It's now bye, Serge? Bye, Serge. Bye, Serge. It's not on me anymore, but later, guys. All right, everybody. That's it. It's Friday night.

Enjoy your weekend. And we are back next week. And, oh, boy, we're not going to be here for the 4th of July, but we are going to be at the RNC in a couple weeks. We'll be there the whole week. It's going to be wild. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you all next time.