Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1054 CNN CUTS Trump Press Sec's Mic PROVING Debate Will Be Biased w/Mary Margaret Olohan

Episode Date: June 25, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil, & Serge are joined by Mary Margaret Olohan to discuss CNN shutting down an interview with Trump's press secretary after she critiques Jake Tapper, CNN threatening Timcast ove...r plans to cover the upcoming presidential debate, Snopes finally admitting to the "very fine people" hoax, and Julian Assange earning his freedom after a plea deal with the US. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Serge @sergedotcom (everywhere) Guest: Mary Margaret Olohan @MaryMargOlohan (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We got some pretty big news today. I think the biggest story, of course, is that Julian Assange has been freed. I believe he's already been freed. He reached a plea agreement with the U.S. government. Now, we were originally going to lead with this story, but I believe it may be a bit too esoteric for the average person in that the nuances of the Donald Trump-Joe Biden issue surrounding Julian Assange, very complicated. So I'm not sure that the average person can see a simple headline pertaining to this and understand the gravity of it. As it pertains to domestic policy, however, CNN this morning cut off the Trump press secretary, Carolyn Leavitt, when she was pointing out that CNN's moderator for the debate, Jake Tapper, had repeatedly referred to Trump as Hitler. Now, many people are pointing out this is exactly what we expect from
Starting point is 00:00:45 CNN on Thursday. And I have news to break for you tonight, right now, as we open this show. I received a message from YouTube last week asking to hop on a phone call to discuss the RNC and the presidential cycle. And I said, sure. I briefly spoke with some individuals at YouTube earlier today who made it clear that CNN reached out and is expressing concern. I don't know the full extent, but making it known that YouTube better contact their news programs over the CNN debate. Now, of course, like all presidential debates, which is the epitome of civic responsibility, it is of civic participation. We will provide live commentary and fact checking on this presidential debate, as we have done for every other so long as this show has been around. In a show of good faith,
Starting point is 00:01:46 YouTube asked me to reach out to CNN to see if there was anything they would be looking for in this regard, because apparently they are asking other networks who are doing the exact same thing to abide by certain restrictions. And I said, OK, I'll reach out to which the immediate response was something along the lines of confirming we will not allow anyone on YouTube to use this outside of, you know, CNN granting certain platforms, basically saying you can't do this. And my response immediately was commentary on presidential debates is the epitome of fair use. Hope that helps. This Thursday will be particularly interesting. I think that news is big. I can't really put that succinctly in 80 characters for
Starting point is 00:02:31 a YouTube headline, but this is massive that CNN is pulling this move. We saw something similar that Fox News had done. Fox had filed several takedowns on various shows, including ours, but they abandoned their their copyright claims because this is unquestionably fair use. We have two people running for the president of this country, one of them the current president, and we're going to fact check and we're going to comment and we are going to call them out in real time. If we can't do that, if no one else can, then that's strict. That's severely
Starting point is 00:03:06 limiting civic participation. And it's allowing a biased network that in the past has likened Trump to Hitler to control who can and cannot fact check this man. And as we know, with special rules for this debate, they are seeking to control that narrative. And I believe that is exactly why they reached out to YouTube and why YouTube reached out to me. Because they don't want anyone to break their narrative. That's the dirty game they're playing. It's going to be a fun Thursday. But in the meantime, we'll talk about the news that we have now, which is Julian Assange.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Massive news. And I'm really excited to get into this with you guys. And then we have Russia threatening retaliation over what they are calling U.S. strikes on Crimea. The U.S. is saying, hey, we don't have nothing to do with that. That's Ukraine. But you think Russia cares? So, all right, now that we've gotten all that big news out of the way, head over to castbrew.com, buy our coffee.
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Starting point is 00:04:37 to keep the show going and you'll get access to the Discord server as well as the uncensored members call in show coming up tonight at 10 p.m but also just i just want to say this this election season this thursday is it's it's the it's the t-off it is the kickoff it is the beginning we're already getting the veiled legal threats of uh you know don't defy our narrative So I have to imagine if you thought 2020 was crazy, we knew this was going to get crazy. If you want to support our work and make sure we can do what we need to do, go to TimCast.com, click join us, sign up to become a member and help out, because I can't predict what's going to happen. But I will say we did get on the presidential Republican debates, you know, a DMCA takedown, which we won that one.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And it's likely going to be a lot more. So smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Mary Margaret Olihan. Hello. It's so fun to be here. Who are you?
Starting point is 00:05:44 What do you do? I'm a reporter. I write for the Daily Signal. I also just wrote a book on transgender issues, detransitioners. So people who tried to become another gender and then ultimately realized that's impossible and went back to living as their biological sex. So I spent a lot of time writing about culture issues, transgender issues, abortion, marriage, family, gender, life, all of that good stuff. And I'm on the ground a lot. I go to a lot of protests. I have gone to a lot of pro-transgender protests, abortion protests. During Roe v. Wade, I lived at the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I do a lot of man-on-the-street interviews where I like to show people what these people at the D.C. protests actually believe, what they actually think. I think we're always surprised by how radical these people are. They are not representative of the American public. So I like to get out there and show people that. Right on. I think it's really fun, too. You know, I mean, I have a hard time at the Women's March now. They know who I am, so they won't talk to me anymore. But eventually it happens. All right. Well, it should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. Phil's hanging out.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary how you doing there hannah claire i'm good i'm happy to be back hope you guys had a good weekend i'm hannah claire brimel i'm a writer for scnr.com scnr.com i don't know if i said all those letters you can find us at timcast news on the internet hi serge yo let's get started here we go here's the first story to kick off this political week from newsweek. CNN cuts off interview with Trump press secretary for trashing debate moderator. Now, I chose this Newsweek one on purpose, so I can do this in real time for you. I'm going to scroll down to the bottom of Newsweek's
Starting point is 00:07:16 articles, and I can respect that they do this. And at the bottom of their articles, they have this little thing. Click on this meter to rate this article. I'm going to go ahead and say unfair left leaning and confirm my selection. And I'll tell you why. They say most readers rated this center fair wrong. Carolyn Leavitt did not trash Jake Tapper at all. And she even tried to move on before her mic got cut off and got kicked off the show by a flustered Cassie Hunt. It's not trashing Jake Tapper to point out. You can Google search this and see him referring to Donald Trump as Hitler. That's not an insult. That's a thing he did for Newsweek to claim it's trashing. It sounds like she went on there and insulted him, which she did not do.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I think they have the clip here, but there's probably a better clip. We'll play this for you guys. You can hear for yourself. It's to it takes someone five minutes to Google Jake Tapper, Donald Trump, to see that Jake Tapper has consistently. We're going to stop this interview if you're going to keep attacking my colleagues. Ma'am, I'm going to stop this interview if you continue to attack my colleagues. I would like to talk about Joe Biden and Donald Trump, who you work for. Yes. If you are here to speak on his behalf, I will have this conversation. I am stating facts that your colleagues have stated in the past. Now, I'm sorry, guys, we're going to come back out to the panel.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Caroline, thank you very much for your time. You are welcome to come back at any point. She is welcome to come back and speak about Donald Trump. And Donald Trump will have equal time to Joe Biden when they both join us now at next early later. You're how flustered she is. So breathing. No, you know, it is. It's the guy producer in her ear yelling at her because they don't want their audience to know that Jake Tapper has referred to Trump as Hitler and is not going to be moderating a debate.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Cassie Hunt herself celebrated the attack on Senator Paul, Rand Paul. Where is it? I had the tweet up. She said that it was one of her favorite stories. The audacity of this woman to behave as if she is not biased. And again, celebrating a violent attack on a sitting senator. Why is she even on the air? The idea that this is something that's acceptable, considering Senator Paul was also attacked at the Congressional baseball game when Steve Scalise was shot. They ignore
Starting point is 00:09:40 this. They ignore all the violence they inspire. She was sitting there doing the hands up, don't shoot when that didn't happen. Endorsing that lie. This is egregious. And honestly, the FCC should do something about it. Well, she's obviously extreme in a lot of her beliefs, but part of you wants to be like, so what is it? Not that I think
Starting point is 00:09:59 the government's going to do anything. We're so far past the FCC as a viable entity that does anything. No. With the internet, the game has changed. And this ultimately makes Trump's spokesperson look better, right?
Starting point is 00:10:13 She stays calm. She watched this woman get really flustered to kick her off air and say, you can't insult my colleagues over something that it's literally you saying you could Google search this and find out. And I want to go back to the point of like, which is it, leftist, right?
Starting point is 00:10:25 Like is Trump Hitler? And it's okay to say that. Why wouldn't you be cheering him on? Or is he not because now you can't say that and you're mad at someone referring to it? At which point wouldn't the network need to address this employee who has said this in the past? Like it's really whatever's coming out
Starting point is 00:10:41 of anyone who supports Trump's mouth is bad in any way that we think we can show that we have power over them. I understand what you're saying. But I think the fact that we can go back to, you know, prior to Trump, to the hands up, don't shoot stuff. That was I think it was 2013. Right. So she was endorsing violence and endorsing riots and endorsing lies long before Donald Trump ever came onto the scene.
Starting point is 00:11:04 And I just assume that's how you get promoted at CNN. All right. And endorsing lies long before Donald Trump ever came onto the scene. I just assume that's how you get promoted at CNN. All right. But there's also this laughable pretense at unbiased journalism when I'm 99% sure that host's background on Twitter is her and Biden. Like literally earlier today. Yeah, I think you're correct. They're holding hands or something. Oh, gross. That's so weird.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Look at this. Look at this. It's sickening. Look at this. They're literally holding hands's so sickening. Look at this. They're literally holding hands. She was there to speak on behalf of her boss. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I mean, if it wasn't so just absolutely indefensible, it would be comical. Look what she wrote on Twitter. On X. Sorry, on X. You come on my show. You respect my colleagues, period. I don't care what side of the aisle you stand on as my track record clearly shows. Oh, your track record of your picture of Joe Biden on your profile?
Starting point is 00:11:51 To deserve respect, one must be respectable. And you are not. Also, she wasn't insulting her. She's saying, hey, your colleagues said something controversial. Yeah, but she tried. Caroline Leavitt tried to move on from this. She said, I was just stating a thing your staff has said.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Now anyway, and she's like, nope, shut her down. I bet what people need to understand about all of these cable hosts is they've got an earpiece in. And they'll be talking, and then the earpiece guy will be like, start talking about this, that, and otherwise. And they go, okay. She gets really flustered, and she's like, well, when we see the
Starting point is 00:12:23 debate now, this Thursday, she doesn't,'t she's lost she's getting yelled at in her earpiece and they're like get her off now she was also obviously scared of the the trump spokeswoman right yeah like she is so scared that she's gonna say anything at all she is looking for a reason to end the interview i bet they had to convince her to do this because she is actually not able to defend any of her position. She's not rational. And so therefore it's all emotion.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And those producers call all the shots anyways. So it's not like she's the one that's coming up with her show. She's very much at their mercy for this. I agree with you that the producers do call the shots, but I don't think, I think she walks in lockstep with them. So even if they weren't telling her what to say,
Starting point is 00:13:04 she would be saying similar things. She's not not some kind she doesn't have some kind of outsider opinion and she's only doing this because CNN says she is a she is a swamp monster and the swamp flows through her veins but let's let's stretch that a little bit further than from where you're at so it's you're right but you don't go far enough Phil fair enough she get her she I believe they're actually holding her back I believe that her producers in this instance were like, no, no, don't let them talk bad about our staff. But I'm willing to bet that on her show, she's just like, you know that meme where the dude's in the classroom and he's like at the vein bulging in his forehead? That's her with trying to praise Joe Biden and the guy in her earpiece going, Cassie, don't do it. Don't do it.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Don't don't. OK, good. I mean, like just like just like, you know, the the header on her her own picture of her shaking Joe Biden's hand. It's literally endorsing a president. And we're supposed to take you seriously. This is laughable. You're a clown.
Starting point is 00:14:01 She is a credible, nonbiased news source, obviously. But what are we going to expect with the debate now does anybody really expect and we got a super chat already from someone if no audience mics are cut off it's going to be edited oh yeah yeah for sure yeah like they're gonna they're gonna do the the the debate we're gonna assume it's live trump's gonna assume it's live and then they're gonna wait an hour and then put it up with cuts right i don't mean that literally i'm being facetious but you get my point and then they're going to wait an hour and then put it up with cuts. Right. I don't mean that literally I'm being facetious, but you get my point. And they can cut him off whenever they want, which is, this is, I mean, we already knew they were going to do that.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I saw Steve Bannon saying earlier today that Trump should not agree to do the debate now unless CNN apologizes. But Caroline was saying on Twitter, they're going to do it anyways, or X. I think it's funny too, because now it's like, are the CNN moderators going to be like, hey, you're not allowed to talk badly about things so somebody cut the camera if he's uncharitable do we cut the mics also like grow up
Starting point is 00:14:52 you go say to your colleague like I tried to defend you the best I could no you just had like a hissy fit on air and made it obvious that you can't do your own job and also she sorry she wasn't actually making like she wasn't saying horrible things about Tapper. She was saying what he had said, which I think is also, like, that's just factual.
Starting point is 00:15:09 She's just saying facts. Here's what I think. When they got rid of Jeff Zucker, okay, he's this reality TV guy. He was the Apprentice guy, wasn't he? Like, isn't he the guy behind Apprentice? I wouldn't know. Jeff Zucker? Look that up for me.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I'm pretty sure. So he turned CNN into reality TV, WWE news. It's like just garbage. They are trying desperately to get away from that. And so I think they're trying to, like the reason they booted her is because they're like, no, no, no, no, no. Don't let her say that we did that because we did.
Starting point is 00:15:40 And we're terrified of what people are going to think. You know what their key demo was last Friday? Their key demo ratings. Let's play this game. I saw it. It's like real. Wait, wait, wait. Don't say anything.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Don't say anything. I don't know. How many viewers do you think CNN got last Friday? Prime time. Prime time key demo. I don't know. What's your guess? I don't pay attention to their numbers normally.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Well, what do you think like? 30,000 people. That was a. That's it. Well, what do you think, like— 30,000 people. That was a— That's it. Well, it's a little low. Never in life. So, I mean, most people, like Big Bang Theory, they say it gets like 20 million viewers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:13 So what would CNN, the most trusted name in news, be getting in their key demographic? I think at 9 p.m. they got 49,000. Dude, I could make a video— You're close. To be fair, I could make a video. You're close. To be fair, we talk about this sometimes. Guys, I need you to understand how crazy this is. That CNN only got 59,000 in the key demo last week.
Starting point is 00:16:36 On Friday. So Friday's a little bit lower. But even earlier in the day, like 5 p.m., which 5 p.m. Friday is not a bad time. It's actually a good time because people are at home. They put on the news. It was like 70. Okay. To put that into frame or whatever the word is, I'm going to go into my Instagram and I'm going to look up a picture I posted of a cat.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And where is my cat video? Where is my cat? Oh, there it is. And how many views does this have? Okay, maybe I should just do this on the actual. All right. I posted a cat. It's one of the funniest videos I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:17:12 So I reposted it. And let's see how many views the cat has. 161,000. Oh my gosh. That's 160. I'm going to play. No, no, no, I can't do it. It's for tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:17:22 So I saw this meme and it's this cat with his eyes half closed and his mouth hanging open. And it says, when you've already given your all and it's only Tuesday and it's singing that song, it's like this really sad song and the cat's just like zoned out and it's hilarious. So I posted 161,000 views just on that. Okay. Now some people might be saying that's not fair though. Everybody loves sharing cat entertainment humor. You can't compete with news on that. Okay, dude, I can go onto my Instagram and look at tons of singular clips that have 64,000, 70,000, 24,000. Search is passing me notes.
Starting point is 00:18:01 100,000. Here's a clip. It's just a picture of my face. 181,000. CNN can't get that in the key demo. Now, to be fair, in the older age bracket, they're getting, I think, 400,000. All right. Well, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:18:19 That's a lot of views. But that means CNN won't exist in 10 years. That's it. Maybe that's good, though, right? It is good. Look, CNN, you've had a good run, but if your moderators are throwing people off because they can't handle somebody pointing out something one of their colleagues said in the past, I'm sorry. You don't have a very tough team here. I've been paying attention to Caitlin Collins' show because I find it fascinating.
Starting point is 00:18:42 They brought her in to be the straight news nighttime show, and she has on a lot of these Culture Wars guests because I find it fascinating. They brought her in to be like the straight news, like nighttime show. And she has on a lot of these Culture Wars guests that I've written about. So I'm like, okay, she got a good guest. She's not straight at all. She's straight news. You know, she's just very aggressive, very antagonistic. I think J.D. Vance has gone on, Ted Cruz has gone on, always
Starting point is 00:19:00 attacking them. Why? Why do these people go on? Dude, okay, I'm going to say this right now. I am J.D. Vance. Matt Gaetz. Why would you? I don't know about Matt. I'm going to say this right now. I am J.D. Vance, Matt Gaetz. Why would you? I don't know about Matt. I don't know who the last time is, but J.D. Vance, Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Dillinger, any one of these people. Why are you going on CNN?
Starting point is 00:19:13 Their viewership is in the tens of thousands. I will tell you. I'll tell you what. Can I just? We'd love to have you on the show. I will. I will drive the D.C. with my Instagram and get more views than that for it. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Who are you trying to reach? I think part of it is just like the people who are that devoutly watching, like looking at CNN, there's sort of a value in getting in front of them, even though everyone there hates you. Like I remember when we had Marjorie Taylor Greene on and we had people say afterwards,
Starting point is 00:19:40 like I never would have listened to you ever because I had just written you off, but being exposed to you actually kind of. I gotta be fair. understand you know jd vance and marjorie are trying to reach older voters and so if you're if you're trying to reach the 65 plus age group and i mean this seriously cnn is one of the places you will go to do it and so msnbc and fox news and and that and that is a very powerful voting block more so than younger people so it actually does make sense yeah like, like Kevin Roberts went
Starting point is 00:20:06 on MSNBC, the president of the Heritage Foundation, over the weekend to talk about Project 2025. I feel like he got in front of so many eyes that would never have even known who he was. And that's definitely valuable. And there's a value, especially with Project 2025 with this thing that the left-wing media is treating like the boogeyman, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:21 That was really interesting because when they were talking about an illegal alien who murdered a child, they got offended that one of the other guests referred to the murderer as an illegal alien. They're like, we don't say that here. And that's what people need to see. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And he said, no, they're illegal aliens. That's a legal term. He wasn't insulting the person. He's like, they're illegal aliens. I don't know what you mean. Yeah. Let's let's do this. Let's let's advance to I talked about a bit in the opening, but I want to show you this
Starting point is 00:20:47 tweet from me. This is breaking news. I was hoping someone else had written about it before, but I tweeted this. CNN is now threatening any social channels that provide commentary on the debate, saying they will not allow the use outside of CNN. I said commentary on a presidential debate is the epitome of fair use, and we fully intend to provide insight and real-time fact-checking Thursday live. So I'll recap the story for you guys that missed it.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Earlier last week, I received a message from YouTube, from a YouTube representative, saying they would like to speak with me on the phone about upcoming election season, to which I said, of course, you know, we said a meeting or today I had the phone call in which they said in a manner of speaking, I'll paraphrase that CNN had reached out to them because they know. What do you have? Tens of thousands of YouTube channels that do fact checking and commentary on on presidential debates. One of the issues they said is that this is not a commission on presidential debates debate. It is a CNN copyrighted event or something in effect. And they're requesting everybody reach out to them if they're going to, you know, like rebroadcast or something. And I said, sure. And I was like, I can provide CNN that courtesy. I know Fox News will be simulcasting the debate. And however, I don't consider what
Starting point is 00:22:05 we're doing going. It's not going to be a simulcast or a rebroadcast is going to be direct fact checking and commentary on the statements made by the president of the United States and the front runner for the 2024 election, which I believe is the epitome of fair use. So but in sign of good, good, good faith and goodwill, I reached out to the representative at CNN, to which YouTube connected me. And I said, hey, here's what we're going to be doing. This is how we're going to do it. Thank you. And the response was something, you know, again, paraphrasing, but it was like confirming we are not allowing YouTubers to rebroadcast.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Only certain, you know, websites and our digital outlets will be allowed, blah, blah, blah. To which I responded, commentary and fact-checking on presidential debates is the epitome of fair use, and we will do this. Hope that helps. You know, my attitude was kind of like, hey, let's make sure they understand what we're doing beforehand. They have no legal leg to stand on. But this is really interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Now, I did put up a tweet for Elon Musk. Not that I expect him to answer in the immediate, but, you know, Elon is— We're on the show for a couple hours, Elon. You know, if you want to give a live update, it would be cool. On X, Elon answers. He really does. He's very attentive to his customers, which are humans and not the advertisers, for the most part, which I respect. And I said, question for Elon Musk. Will live commentary and fact checking shows for the CNN debate be taken down if CNN files a DMCA or will X default to fair use and have the matter handled externally?
Starting point is 00:23:31 We plan to simulcast. So here's how it works on YouTube. If you I'll put it this way. We commented live and it's a bit of insult, but that's commentary to the Republican presidential debates. We made fun of many of these people. We praise many people. We fact check them in real time after the show had ended. I think it was a couple of weeks later. Fox had filed. I believe it was Fox, right? This is what it was. It was Fox that announced they were going to be stopping this takedowns on numerous videos. And I know David Pakman had gotten hit. We did. And we immediately countered.
Starting point is 00:24:05 So the show, it goes down for a copyright and instantly goes back up. And I said, this is fair use unquestionably. Fox dropped their claim. No question. There's there's it's it's you're not going to make the argument that you can have presidential candidates talking about how they will affect the lives of 330 plus million people. And I can't tell those people they're wrong. That's insane. The issue with a live show is YouTube defaults to taking the show down. And if a live stream is ended, it is gone. That's it. It's in the middle of a live broadcast. So I'm wondering how Axl will handle this because we intend to simulcast for this reason, because this is fair use, but we will likely be attacked by these big networks. Now, to the bulk of the story, which is the reason why they're doing this, I don't believe this is a money play.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Apparently, I don't know if this is true, CNN is not charging money to the other networks that are distributing, in whatever way they are, I don't know which ways, the debate with Trump and Biden. If that's the case, it's a marketing play, I suppose. But then why provide rules to other networks and why deny YouTubers the right to comment or they don't have the ability to deny that right. But why attempt to attack anybody who would? I think this is part of their CNN's pro-Democrat play. And of course, they're probably going to go after pro-Democrat personalities. Don't get me wrong, but they want to instruct and control the narrative. They're going to shut off Trump's mic. They've already we saw that this morning, Cassie cutting off the mic of Trump's press secretary. And the last thing they want
Starting point is 00:25:45 is for other channels to to watch the debate and say Biden is wrong. So there this is why they're doing it outside of the Commission on Presidential Debates, because they're going to try and use every legal move they can to stop us from fact checking this and calling out Joe Biden. I mean, I think I could understand where there has to be a question of copyright. I think it's fair that you reached out to CNN per the request, but it does seem like ultimately this is about trying to retain viewers. You know, all typically all of these presidential debates are not they they are a chance to have a spike in viewership that they don't typically have. And fewer and fewer people are watching these events. And I think it's because of alternative platforms
Starting point is 00:26:30 like YouTube, Rumble, X, where you can get better perspective than, you know, whoever MSNBC has on, let's say. And I wonder what, so I don't remember who's hosting the second debate in September. There already is a second debate. Yeah, there's two scheduled. Typically, there are three presidential debates. Well, yeah, but those are the commission and presidential debate. Right. And so Biden said, we'll do two.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And so it was like that was when I was like, because you're tired already. But there's you're tired thinking about it. So there should be one in September. I don't remember if there's a which network is hosting, but there is a level for Trump of like, let's just get the CNN one out of the way. Right. Like he is better in debate anyways. And the campaign is going in knowing that maybe the mainstream platform that that dislikes them more is first knowing that a lot of their support is online, really. It could be both, though, right? Like, there's this attempt to retain viewers, but also this attempt to shut down alternative viewpoints. Their competition. Yeah. Well, and even more than competition, you know, I think some of the most popular YouTubers are going to be talking about this in ways that CNN wouldn't want. Yeah, I don't get the sense that this is about viewership so much as it's about controlling
Starting point is 00:27:47 narrative. I really don't think that CNN has as much concern with viewership as they do with access, because if they have access to the presidency, if they have access to the administration, if they have access to the bureaucracy, money doesn't matter. How much do you want to bet the Democrats reached out to CNN and said, we will do the CNN debate outside of the commission, but we expect you to control copyright? There's zero surprise. They absolutely had a whole list of rules like that. Well, we even know they did, right?
Starting point is 00:28:16 With the rules for how Biden would go about it and what would be allowed and what wouldn't. But I think we should, I think I really do want to focus on the access part. Like this isn't about whether or not CNN is going to have the viewers that they, the viewership that alternative sources would have or their competition would. This is about making sure that the narrative that gets to the normies,
Starting point is 00:28:42 the independent voters, the people that are undecided. This is about making sure that the narrative that they hear is the one that CNN wants. We saw already Snopes just came out recently talking about how the Very Fine People hoax was actually a hoax. If you go to Snopes now, it says that it was a hoax. And they're listing it as false. Now, this is a big deal. And the administration knows it. The people that are in positions of power that do control the narrative or have a
Starting point is 00:29:09 strong desire to control the narrative that the average normie hears, they are extremely motivated, not monetarily, but definitely by power and access to continue to support the narrative that is set forth by the administration. Right. And the administration, I mean, we saw this from Axios last week. They are they consider this election to be on a viral battlefield, right? Because of all these videos of Biden having gaffes and somewhere around it looking old. I think ultimately the big fear of the Biden-Harris campaign and therefore the DNC is that alternative media will immediately clip any sort of gaffe and get it out faster. So if we're allowed to rebroadcast it, it means that it basically continues this this idea that like it's actually Trump supporters who are able to make
Starting point is 00:29:50 things go viral and not the Democrats. And so therefore, having it rebroadcast, it makes it that much more likely that any issue Biden had gets there faster. If you're not allowed to broadcast it, you have to wait for them to release it in some way, then probably they would not, they wouldn't release anything that was unflattering to Biden, or at least they would hold it for as long as possible. What Fox did last time was different, right? Because I remember, you know, in terms of sharing clips of the debate, we were we were having concerns about doing that from a media perspective. Fox's situation was different, right? Well, Fox had said something like, you are not allowed to rebroadcast or whatever. But there's a big difference between, this is what they do, right?
Starting point is 00:30:33 They're going to say, you better not rebroadcast. And it's like, don't worry, we won't. We're fact checking and commenting, which is fair use. So thank you and have a nice day. It's wholly transformative. It's public commentary. It's public commentary. It's public participation. That's why Fox backed down in the end. Look, if somebody launches a YouTube
Starting point is 00:30:52 stream which just clones CNN's broadcast without any commentary or anything, fine. I mean, that's just taking their stream. I respect that. But what they're trying to do is prevent people from calling out politicians by trying to associate the two as being the same. Oh, you're rebroadcasting. Oh, we're providing commentary and criticism. Outright fact checking. Like that is the utmost importance because, you know, it's going to, you know, I guarantee you they're not going to fact check Biden on that stage. Donald Trump says Joe Biden cut a deal with the president of Ukraine to fire a prosecutor in exchange for a billion dollars in loan guarantees, it just so happened that that prosecutor was investigating a company where his son worked.
Starting point is 00:31:36 They're going to say, cut his mic. Yeah. We're going to say, here's the video proving it. I already have images of Trump literally just like us watching while he says things with no no audio. I feel like that's Trump literally just like us watching while he says things with no audio. I feel like that's going to be half of the debate. Yeah, I mean, they're going to be cutting him off. They're going to be doing, I mean,
Starting point is 00:31:51 they're going to do the same thing that they did to I believe they did it to Romney, where they were saying that no, I forget who it was that made the remark, but it was during one of the debates and they were countering what Romney said, and they were wrong. CNN was incorrect. They said
Starting point is 00:32:08 no, this is not true, something that Mitt Romney said and I wish that I remember the specifics. But they do this. This is the norm nowadays and it's been normal for 15 years now. Since Barack Obama. The idea that this is something that's out of the ordinary anymore
Starting point is 00:32:24 that's a ridiculous idea. The idea that there is a a legacy media outlet that has any interest in providing actual factual information that has gone out the window and went out the window over a decade ago. article from Snopes. Ladies and gentlemen, Snopes headline, No, Trump did not call neo-Nazis and white supremacists very fine people. Published June 20th, 2024. Media Matters most affected. Literally.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yes, literally. About something that happened in 2017. And the Media Matters, some of the Media Matters, some of the alumni from the media matters were out in force claiming that Donald Trump did. No, Snopes, you're wrong, that he was there, blah, blah, blah. If that's the case, you're on the side of commies and you're responsible for the hundred million dead. We got to share this.
Starting point is 00:33:21 We got to share this. Okay, so it says on August 15th, 2017, good seven years ago, there's some seven-year-old kid who's like, you know, let's be real. There's like a 14-year-old kid who is just now like starting to hear stuff on the news. And he was like, I was playing with Play-Doh when this happened, like announced being fact-checked. But let me read. Then President Donald Trump called neo-Nazis and white supremacists who attended the Charlottesville rally very fine people. False. In a news conference after the rally protesting the planned removal of the Confederate statue, Trump did say they were very fine people on both sides, referring to the protesters and the counter-protesters. He said in the same statement that he wasn't talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists who he said should be condemned totally.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Editor's note. Oh, boy. Some readers have raised the objection that this fact check appears to assume Trump was correct in stating that there were very fine people on both sides of the Charlottesville incident. That is not the case. This fact check aimed to confirm what Trump actually said, not whether what he said was true or false.
Starting point is 00:34:20 What? For the record, virtually every source that covered the united right debacle concluded that it was conceived of led by and attended by white supremacists and that therefore trump was wrong this is an opinion statement this is the most nonsensical thing when trump says there are very fine people on both sides it's an opinion statement You can't be right or wrong. I mean, like you can have bad opinions, but the general there is no true or false in the opinion statement. It's do you agree with Trump's assessment of fine or not? Now, the reality was Trump was correct. There's like a video of a little old lady. She's not a nasty person or a neo-Nazi or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:35:03 She's just some little old lady who heard they were going to tear down our statue and she didn't want it to happen. There's a bunch of people like that. They're very fine people. That's it. Now, the neo-Nazis, the white nationalists, of course, they're not. They were there and they intended on violence just like, and not every single one, don't get me wrong,
Starting point is 00:35:17 but many of them intended on violence and brought weapons for that matter. I think there's a video of one guy shooting at another guy. So not a good thing in any respect. But it's like Trump gives opinion on people he saw. He's wrong. For that matter, I think this is a video of one guy shooting at another guy. So not a good thing in any respect. But it's like Trump gives opinion on people he saw. He's wrong. Well, he's not allowed to have opinions because all of his opinions are bad and wrong. It's literally just if it is not useful for the narrative that the left wants to portray.
Starting point is 00:35:37 No, it's not. And I think what's crazy is there's no need for that editor's note. Snopes doesn't have the cojones to just own their fact check. Your fact check is just facts. You shouldn't have to. We don't like Donald Trump either. We don't like him either. We had to say this thing, but we're still on your side, guys. That's the state of journalism now, where you can't even say
Starting point is 00:35:58 they report the facts and they're like, we're so sorry that we had to tell you this. We're sorry the truth doesn't align with your attempts to manipulate. But listen, the left... Trump is still a bad guy. The left doesn't use language in a way to communicate.
Starting point is 00:36:13 They use language to manipulate. That is the point of language to the left. They don't, they believe that words contain power and that to use words is to try to exercise power. They don't believe that there is a that you can possibly have an honest conversation. They don't believe that anyone can have a come to a disagreement from a charitable place. It is all about manipulation. It is all about power,
Starting point is 00:36:40 which is why the left is where the crazy people go. The psychopaths go there because they welcome manipulative people. Everything is euphemism. And I'm a reporter, so I know I get all the oppo from the right. I see how the right wants to frame things. I know that on the left, when all this happens, let's say on the gender-affirming care note, the euphemism that they use for trans surgeries, hormones, and puberty blockers, I know they all get on press calls and they're told, don't say this, say this, which the
Starting point is 00:37:09 right doesn't really do, actually. I got to tell you, I am outraged at Donald Trump over this. I am furious. I don't know if I can support the man. The idea that he would refer to antifa as very fine people is shocking, and it is shocking to the conscience of this country. I'm kidding. I will vote for Donald Trump. But you get my point. When Trump said there are very fine people is shocking and it is shocking to the conscience of this country. I'm kidding. I will vote for Donald Trump. But you get my point. When Trump said there are very fine people on both sides, the media's reaction wasn't you called communists fine people. How could you Trump? No, they were like Nazis. It's like, well, there are communists there, too. And like I regard the communists and the Nazis very similar, similarly as same garbage, Same garbage. Just as murderous, same garbage. The commies get away with more murder because they actually wrap it up in a nice sounding package.
Starting point is 00:37:52 The Nazis sound bad. Well, I think it's true. And I think another reason why commies get a free pass is because the commies actually helped us stop the Nazis. Yeah. And so, like, they, you know. They did the dying. They did the dying. We supplied the dying. They did the dying. We supplied the machines.
Starting point is 00:38:07 They did the dying. And you know what? The Soviet strategy in World War II was literally the Zap Brannigan strategy of sending wave after wave of your own men
Starting point is 00:38:15 until you overload the kill counters on the kill bots. That was the same strategy the Chinese used in the Korean War. They just sent wave after wave after wave
Starting point is 00:38:22 of Chinese people. And the guys, some of the guys that were going after the Americans, they were going into the field without weapons because they knew there were comrades that were dead and they were told to pick up a rifle when you get to the front line. There will be dead men. There will be ammo. There will be rifles. They just kept sending wave after wave. That's what communists do because they don't value life, because they don't believe that human beings are valuable. They believe that human beings are cogs in a wheel.
Starting point is 00:38:50 There's a Hegelian, there's an idea that Hegel came up with that history uses people and cast them aside. So the deaths don't matter just so long as you're forwarding the, the march of history. They believe in a, believe in a historicism. They believe that there is a goal for humanity, which is the communist utopia. And it doesn't matter how many people die if you get to the utopia.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Because they're going to die anyways. It doesn't matter. You're going to die anyways. There's no God. There's no afterlife. You're just a cog. You're just a step along the way to the perfected human human civilization is um march of history the name of your new album no stop it but it is actually
Starting point is 00:39:34 something that is it's something very positive and i don't i don't believe in a march i do think it's a very interesting point though and something you should keep in mind the media is never outraged at antifa they are never uh it was chris cuomo i believe defended violent protests who says protests have to be peaceful and then that dude eating the ramen had that viral video he's like it's right there in the first amendment amazing peaceful peaceably assemble but this is what the media does because uh well because the media is aligned with antifa yeah and then when a pro-life grandma prays outside an abortion clinic and begs someone not to abort their baby she goes to jail i can't even i can barely stay seated when i hear that garbage that is insane the idea that and the idea
Starting point is 00:40:19 that you can't protest because it is it is uh unpopular orpopular or the progressives find it distasteful. It upsets them. They don't like it when you do it. They find it distasteful so you can't protest. But it's perfectly fine for a leftist to, like, you know, say gas the Jews if they're talking about the Palestinian issue. We're throwing rocks through storefronts during the summer of 2020, right? Like there are all kinds of things
Starting point is 00:40:48 that are allowed by the media. I mean, never forget like mostly peaceful protests burning building in the background. Iconic, right? And the media was all like, no, we stand by that assessment of what's going on in major cities across the country. They endorsed the attack on the White House. They made fun of the
Starting point is 00:41:04 president when the Secret Service said you have to get into the bunker. It is absolute. They are they are totally anti-American. They don't like our government system. You listen to the left. They want to get rid of the Supreme Court or expand it because they don't like the results they get. They want to get rid of the Senate because they don't like the results that they get. They want to get rid of the Electoral College because they don't want like the results they get. The whole point, the whole agenda of the left has zero value, places zero value on any of our founding principles. And it is purely about acquiring and exercising power. That's it. When Roe was being overturned two years ago, actually, today is the anniversary that Roe was overturned. I was going to these
Starting point is 00:41:44 protests at the justices houses which there's literally a law that says you cannot protest in front of the home of a justice with an intent to influence or intimidate that justice it's literally a federal law and yet they let them do this even the day after they arrested that attempted assassination or the guy that wanted to assassinate Kavanaugh. Yeah. And it was still going on the same day. Well, it has like Jane's Revenge or any of those organizations that were involved in like doxing.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Yes. The locations of the justices, have they ever faced any kind of consequence? No, I literally talked to the U.S. Marshals. I went in like January. They've been protesting for like six months. It was freezing cold rain. Listen to me. And I asked the U.S. Marshals, why aren't you arresting them?
Starting point is 00:42:23 There's literally a law. And they told me that DOJ had told them not to. Listen to the list of things that we have just come up with off the top of our heads. That the media has endorsed that are illegal. Like straight up. The media supporting illegal activity. Up to and including. And granted, the VP is not in the media, but the VP was getting donations to bail out people that were violating property rights and that were destroying things and arsonists.
Starting point is 00:42:52 The idea of the rule of law has gone out the window. It is imaginary. But they're the ones saying, I mean, I just wrote something about this today, but Maxine Water was like alluding to all the violence that would happen if Trump is reelecteded which they're saying no no it's them it's them it's them even though it's it's it's actually them when maxine water was straight up the one that said don't let them alone go after them the cabinet members she literally said that we're going to go from the street level straight up to the highest level of political back backroom deals we have this this from NBC News. Ladies and gentlemen, this is major breaking news. This is historic. Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free. The WikiLeaks founder has been held in a prison outside of London for the last five years
Starting point is 00:43:37 and fought extradition to the United States. He's expected to return to Australia. I don't want to waste time. I believe the Biden administration has reached a deal with him, terrified that if Donald Trump becomes president and Julian Assange is still stuck information which is very damaging to the establishment political class in this country, which is Democrats and Republicans. And Donald Trump has been trying to get it. He tried to get it in his first term and he couldn't. I believe the Biden DOJ cut a deal with Assange so that Trump would not be able to in the event Democrats actually end up losing in November. Let's read. NBC says WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange plans to plead guilty to a conspiracy charge this week as part of a plea deal with the U.S. DOJ that will allow him to go free. Assange was charged by criminal information, which typically signifies a plea deal,
Starting point is 00:44:41 which conspiracy with conspiracy to obtain and disclose national defense information, the documents say. A letter from DOJ official Matthew McKenzie to U.S. Judge Ramona Manglona of the U.S. District Court for the Northern Mariana Islands said that Assange would appear in court at 9 a.m. local time on Wednesday to plead guilty and said that the DOJ expects Assange will return to Australia, his country of citizenship, after the proceedings. U.S. charges against Assange stem from one of the largest publications of classified information in American history, which took place during the term of Barack Obama starting in late 2009, according to the government. Assange conspired with Chelsea Manning, a military intelligence analyst,
Starting point is 00:45:20 to disclose tens of thousands of activity reports about the war in Afghanistan, hundreds of thousands of reports about the war in Iraq, hundreds of thousands of State Department cables, and assessment briefs of Guantanamo Bay detainees using his WikiLeaks website. Now, I don't believe the U.S. government, but let me go to the beginning of this. So for those that aren't familiar with what's going on, I can bring this into modern politics so you understand. Julian Assange is at the Ecuadorian embassy in London,
Starting point is 00:45:46 he was being threatened with arrest over some ridiculous bunk claim about assaulting some women, which never happened. And I don't even know if it was assault. It was like, I don't want to get too crass, but a condom broke. The women went to the police and said, can we get him tested? They said, aha, we're going to go get him now. They wanted to extradite him to Sweden. So he was in London, I believe he was in a house arrest. He went to the Ecuadorian embassy seeking asylum and they granted to him. He was trapped in the Ecuadorian embassy
Starting point is 00:46:12 for I think it was, what was it, seven years? Might have been longer. I think it was seven. I know he had two kids during that time. Right. So what happens is, under the Trump administration, Assange was pulled from the embassy and taken to prison.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Here's the conspiracy theory. And it is. I mean, I think there's reason to believe this may be the case. There are sources. I've investigated a bit of the story. I don't have a lot of crazy information or anything, but I've talked with certain people. It would seem Julian Assange made a statement on in an interview about Seth Rich. There were emails that were leaked to WikiLeaks from the DNC and the DCCC, their Democratic Congressional Campaign
Starting point is 00:46:54 Committee. And these emails were pretty damning. Everybody on the right believed Seth Rich, who worked for the DNC, had leaked these emails by downloading them, handing them off to an associate of WikiLeaks, who then gave them to WikiLeaks. There's an individual who has claimed he received these emails via USB. The media reported the emails were hacked by the Russians. Well, Donald Trump wanted to know what happened. And there's only one person that can tell you, and it's going to be Julian Assange. So the theory goes, and this is rumor and scuttlebutt, that Trump held a meeting, dispatched some of his confidants to meet with Julian Assange and made him a deal.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Come to the U.S., provide the evidence and testimony against the Democrats, and you're a free man. Julian Assange said no, because he will not compromise his values and the WikiLeaks organization and sacrifice the source of the information who will certainly die or assuming they didn't already. It'll cause serious harm to the individual's family. When Julian Assange refused this rumor is, again, just rumor that Trump team said, then we're going to bring him to the U.S. by force. And that's what they were trying to do. I don't know if any of that is true. I have spoken with some people about the issue, and it seems like it's possible based on the things I've heard. Now, when I hear this, assuming that is the case, and I will stress again, maybe it's all garbage.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Joe Biden is concerned. The DOJ is not really Biden. It's the deep state that if Trump wins in November, he will be able to extradite Julian Assange to the U.S. who is who is currently facing charges. And he will get Julian Assange to give him the information he wants, which will implicate establishment party members. This is this is Republicans as well. This is CIA's FBI. And now Julian Assange will go free and Trump will be unable to do so. Did something happen, Phil? You just gasped. I just saw a thing that a muse was posting about Dana Bash's ex-husband, Jeremy Bash, was one of the 51 intelligence officials who claimed the. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:49:05 So that's someone that works at CNN. Yep. Connected to the 51 to the to the 51 people that lied about the the election. It is it is it is entirely incestuous. There is no light between CNN and the current administration or. And there was no light between CNN and the Obama administration either. That was when it became an issue of access as opposed to an issue of money. You're not going to be able to pay people enough money to say the money is more important than being able to get an interview with
Starting point is 00:49:36 the president or the president's chief of staff. That is just the truth. Access is far more valuable than money. And until people start to realize that they're going to keep chasing BS stuff like, oh, lobbyists are spending too much money. It's like, yeah, lobbyists and stuff like that are bad. Fine. But the real problem are the people that are looking for access to the president and to the administration so they can influence policy. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to say that this is access is really key to a lot of stuff. And I'm going to sort of awkwardly segue back to Julian Assange for a second, which is to say that, you know, if Julian Assange is released, he's returned to Australia, Australia, I want to see a statement
Starting point is 00:50:15 from Anthony Albanese, the prime minister of Australia, who's been incredibly supportive of Julian Assange for the last couple, at least last couple months, I don't know his entire history, but saying, you know, enough is enough, he needs to be released. This has gone on for too long. And also, you know, the U.S. tends to have a really positive diplomatic relationship with Australia. We definitely did under Trump. And, you know, under the Biden administration, as there's been Indo-Pacific tension, it seems to remain strong. So for me, all of this remains sort of uncertain until we know what the counterpart of this deal is saying, until we know what what how Australia is reacting to this and what they are saying.
Starting point is 00:50:48 I wonder. So we got it. We got a great super chip from Jason Lindholm. He said the plea deal is a set is is a setup. The government won't let him expose anything on them. He's going unless he's or he'll be on alive. I think that actually makes a lot of sense. The Biden DOJ basically says you leave and you never come back or else. But they need to cut ties from U.S. authority with Assange so that if Trump gets elected, he has no legal means to actually get Assange. And I would assume that Jason's correct. And there's an implication with what the with the with the deal they're offering him. Yeah. You are lucky you are here. Go home. It also, to me, would signal the Biden administration
Starting point is 00:51:29 does not think it is, re-election is viable. Elon responded. I know. Okay. Sorry. Phil, I'm more important than Elon Musk. I'm the president.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I'm right here right now. He's busy. He's having tons of children. No, the thing is, I really think that it's sort of a signal that the Biden administration does not think that they will be there in 2025. And that's why they have to deal with this issue right now in the final month.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Well, what could be the final month and probably will be the final month of his presidency because they can't leave a loose end like Julian Assange around if there's any way that that Trump would benefit from it. But again, I feel like I can't say anything definitively until we know how the third party in this is reacting, which is actually Australia. Was Australia going to do it? Because there is a chance that Australia is like, Donald Trump, Julian Assange is not allowed to go to America to talk to you. Please come visit us and have a conversation with him.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I mean, we don't know until his government says how they're going to protect him or anything else. I think one of the big issues, too, is Julian Assange has had bad health for a long time and you can't be locked up in a building for that long, like the Ecuadorian embassy. I think he had like a tooth issue at some point. And having just experienced that last week, I just got to tell you, like, everything's fine. And then you wake. I woke up at two in the morning with pain at like eight and I had to go to the ER.
Starting point is 00:52:39 And the implications of your gums, like if your gums are infected or whatever, it can have really serious long term consequences for your health. Yeah, Julian was deteriorating. I'm so excited for this. Julian is a journalist. I don't believe the U.S. government's claims against him. It makes no sense that someone who is working so hard with so many lawyers and the resources behind them would do something as stupid. We've all known the rules on working with sources.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Every journalist does. And Julian Assange, not only is not an exception, he's the height of understanding how to deal with this legally because of what he does. The idea that he directly contacted at the time, Bradley Manning, now Chelsea Manning, and was like, hey, let's commit a crime together. I just do not believe it for a second.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Phil, are you going to name your new album Julian Assange's Free? Stop. No, I dare you. We do have an update, though. Elon Musk has responded to my tweet. Shout out to Elon Musk. Thanks for watching the show, Elon. I feel like I flubbed this initial tweet when I said we
Starting point is 00:53:45 planned a simulcast. That's not correct. We plan to provide commentary live is a better way to put it. But I did put that in the original tweet. It's not so bad. But Elon Musk says the public has a right to see presidential debates however they would like. DMCA does not apply. However, Ian Miles Chong did say it'll get DMCA'd regardless, and Axe has no good means to undo those immediately. So I hope Elon sees that from Ian, and that is a good point to be made. They may have to make sure this is the case. Now, what I will say is, and this is tough because I don't know how much I should be talking about this considering these things are actively happening right now. But I believe there's a possibility that YouTube may take the same stance as Elon Musk and these social media platforms may actually tell CNN, shove off.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Now, as for Rumble, a lot of people are asking, like, why don't I ask Rumble? I got to be honest. Shout out to Chris Pavlovsky. I think I already know his answer. I'm like 99 percent sure he's going to be like, dude, fair use. No question. I'm not so sure about how X would handle it because X notoriously has the DM, CEO of Rumble, of all people, I believe he is the most forward thinking when it comes to these things. So I'll just give Rumble a shout out. We're going to be seeing how we do the simulcast. We have a so here's the thing people to get. It's not very, very simple, but it's also not particularly complicated. It just makes it annoying to launch, especially multiple streams at once.
Starting point is 00:55:29 So when we're doing the Culture War podcast Friday mornings, that simulcast on Tenet Media, YouTube, as well as X, and you need special accounts and special programs to do it, to do a three-way simulcast is a bit more difficult. Now, some people ask, Tim, why would you go on X and not Rumble if that's the case? We're going to try all three. But if we have to choose only one, I have two million followers on X.
Starting point is 00:55:51 We've got half a million on Rumble and no disrespect to Rumble, but X is also a different kind of platform which allows for more virality and I just have more followers there. But ideally, we will get the debate show simulcasted everywhere. And that's that's our
Starting point is 00:56:06 plan for now. I suppose then moving on, let's talk about the world ending. Hey, welcome to World War Three, everybody. Politico reports Russia threatens consequences for U.S. over Crimea missile strikes. What exactly? Time will tell. Kremlin spokesperson warns Washington. You know, I think it was Elad who was here. I'm not sure. Sounds like something Elad would say when he said they will do nothing. And this was a previous issue because and again, I think it was Elad. Elad Aliahu, shout out. He was just like every single time the U.S. escalates and blows up Russian ships and sends more weapons, Russia grumbles and does nothing. So they're not going to do anything now. And this was a previous – I think that was like the HIMARS missiles. Now, this is crazy. Reportedly, civilians were killed. Is that –
Starting point is 00:56:55 Yeah, if I understand correctly, it's five. I watched these videos, and it was people on like a beach, and it was – what did they say? Ukrainian forces targeted military radar station in crimea used to monitor deep space and handle satellite data and reportedly here we go russia's defense ministry claims to have intercepted four of the missiles fragments of a fifth detonated in midair after being struck by air defenses killing four people and injuring 151 on the ground, according to the RIA Novosti report. The U.S. agreed to deliver long-distance ATACMS missiles with a 300-kilometer range to Ukraine early this year, with the White House also agreeing in May to allow Kiev to use detonated weaponry to hit targets inside Russia and on territory claimed by Moscow. Russia's state-owned media outlet TASS reported Monday that the Kremlin has summoned U.S. ambassador to Moscow, Lynn Tracy, to the foreign ministry in response to the Crimea attack.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I, again, I'm not sure if it was a lot, but I got to agree with that assessment. At this point, I'm actually not so sure that Russia will do anything. I thought for a while that we would see the use of tactical nuclear weapons. They would not back down. But if your own civilians are blown up by U.S. forces and you say nothing and do nothing, I'm pretty sure the U.S. can steamroll you and you will beg and you will bend your knees. So Russia saying, oh, well, you know, we'll do something about how you killed Russian civilians. Wow. Russia is impotent. I don't know what to say.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I don't I don't think that Russia wants to actually get into a direct conflict with the U.S. I don't I don't see how that benefits them. Russia's got the upper hand in Ukraine. They likely are not going to be giving back any of the territory that they've taken uh in the long run the u.s will likely still continue to do its best to drain russia by sending money over to ukraine i wish they'd stop but i i'm only i'm only you're the messenger here i'm only saying what seems likely not what i desire but it's likely that the united states is going to continue to send money to russia to Ukraine to kill Russians because Russians are dying and Russia's expending money and they're expending weapons and et cetera. I don't think that it's going to have a significant
Starting point is 00:59:14 effect on Russia, but it does weaken Russia and Russia. I don't care how many people out there are like, oh, America bad. The U.S. is still the biggest, toughest guy on the block. And whether or not we could stomp a country into the Stone Age in a matter of two months or whether it would take more effort and stuff, that's neither here nor there. The outcome of most wars, actually, the outcome of any military conflict, save for one involving nuclear weapons, is already determined if the participants are the United States. The military side will win. The politics side, the U.S. will lose. They'll make bad decisions.
Starting point is 00:59:51 They'll do Afghanistan. They'll do Iraq, whatever. But the engagements themselves, the United States military wins, and they are going to continue winning until there are significant changes on the conventional battlefield. I'm just confused by his phrasing, and I'm no foreign policy buff in the extreme. But what exactly time will tell? Is that not the most vague and, what did you say, impotent wording? Yeah, this is basically, look, it's like imagine two guys are at a bar and one guy hits the other guy in the face.
Starting point is 01:00:22 And then he falls down, gets up, and looks him and squints his eyes and goes, ooh, I'm gonna get ya. What exactly? Time will tell. It's like, okay, buddy. Literally. Like, what are you gonna do? You know what I mean? He's gonna steal the straw out of his drink later. That will very much inconvenience him. They're gonna do things like support Iran. They're gonna send money
Starting point is 01:00:40 and weapons to North Korea. They're gonna do the things they've been doing. They're going to continue to funnel money probably to Hamas and Gaza. And anything that Russia gives to Iran is going to end up in the hands of Hezbollah. So they're going to continue to do what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:00:57 I don't see them taking on the U.S. directly because that's just something that they're going to lose, especially when they're already engaged in a war with Ukraine, which they are winning, but it's costing. I think I'm happy to acknowledge my ignorance on this point. But I do think that ultimately the conversation that Russia, the conversation I'm most interested that Russia is having is with other countries it views as diplomatic allies. You know, Vladimir Putin was just in North Korea. He was in
Starting point is 01:01:26 Vietnam. There are other countries that are trying to walk the balance of keeping America happy and keeping China happy and keeping Russia happy. And I think there are a lot of people, a lot of countries that are beginning to view America as a supporter of aggressors and aggressive in some of the policies it enacts itself. So in some ways with anything else, like, you know, I'm sure Russia is upset at its own loss of civilians, but also being able to say, like, yeah, America is the toughest guy on the block, but ultimately, he is bullying you out of a way of life, and he's putting your citizens in danger. That's a very challenging narrative for America to overcome, especially during an election year with a change in leadership at home. You know, I really do feel like if, you know, the U.S. blows up Russian civilians and Russia
Starting point is 01:02:08 can't do anything, it shows weakness. But that being said, I wonder if the Putin position is you got a guy who half the country thinks took a dump on stage in France. How about we just wait a little bit? And when Trump comes in, it's over. There's no fighting. Trump will not tolerate that. And we know this because Donald Trump, I believe he ordered an airstrike on Iran and called it off at the last minute and then publicly stated that the death of the Iranians was not worth the attack. I can't remember exactly what it was. It was like a U.S. drone was taken down or something. Trump ordered an airstrike on Iranian targets, was informed of how many people were expected to die in the attack,
Starting point is 01:02:51 and then he says, don't do it, pull it back. He was like, the amount of people who would die for this is not, it's not, you know, appropriate retaliation. Do you remember during the CNN town hall debate, or not even debate, just town hall, the lady was trying to push him on when would you you know how would you end ukraine or what would you do in ukraine he was like i just want people to stop dying you don't want ukraine to win and he's like i just want the dying to stop
Starting point is 01:03:13 yeah i don't know that like i don't i'm not saying that i i can predict this or that i have some kind of inside knowledge but it seems to me that it would make sense for Putin to be trying to outlast Biden in the hopes that Donald Trump gets in, because Donald Trump actually will want to tell them to stop the war. It's my impression. I can't speak for the guys. I can't read minds or anything, but it's my impression that he will actually want to stop the war. And that means that he'll put pressure on Zelensky. And that means that Putin will, what I think Putin is hoping for is to be able to hold the land that he's already taken. I don't think that he is actually really that concerned with taking all of Ukraine. I think that the land that the, that the, the territory that he's taken will suffice for now, maybe in
Starting point is 01:04:03 the future, if he, you future, if he lives another 10, 20 years, maybe in another five years, he would make some more advances after Donald Trump were to get out of office. But I don't think that he would continue to try to push in Ukraine if Donald Trump was the president, because I don't see that. I think that he would look for the way out because it's his escape route. And Putin has lost on another major issue is that he didn't want Ukraine to be admitted to NATO. Well, Finland got admitted to NATO, which doubled the border that Russia now has with a NATO country.
Starting point is 01:04:30 I mean, this is something that it's not, I mean, it's Finland, right? Like there's a certain level of like, we're not expecting a conflict there, although there is a certain level of like shifting back and forth of illegal immigrants over that border. And Finland has now closed it. You know, he has lost on something he really wanted that Biden would not agree to, this NATO issue. At a certain point, I think he is absolutely willing
Starting point is 01:04:51 to come to the table and say, I have some land. I'm ready to end this. And it's Zelensky who is like, no, the fighting has to continue. We can't let go of anything. And we really like this money being here. You are correct, except for when Trump gets in, Zelensky just goes, my boss got fired.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Who do I report to now? And then Trump's going to be like, I'm your boss. He's like, okay, boss, I'll do whatever you say. I think so. Or he'll go to other European countries and be like,
Starting point is 01:05:12 see how mean America is? They didn't elect the guy who gave me all this money. I think Zelensky is going to be like, tell me what to do, boss. Maybe, yeah. I don't see him as the actual president of Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:05:24 I think Zelensky is just- He's not supposed to be right now. He suspended elections. Right. Just trying to save his neck, I imagine. Right. I mean, because he's the guy like if he if if Russia gets a hold of him, he's going to die. They'd kill him. You know, I don't know. I don't know. Not because he's because he's he's he's just a TV personality. You know what I mean? Like he's the guy who literally played the president on a TV show in Ukraine for real. And they elected him. Did they?
Starting point is 01:05:49 And I imagine if they capture him, Poonch is going to be like, you know, it's your boss we want. You're just some random guy. Now, that being said, possibility because he does still represent that image. Yes, publicly, too. But have you guys seen Iron Man 3? Yeah. Yeah, it's like that, right? The Mandarin is played by Ben Kingsley.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And I was so excited in the trailer for that because I'm like, oh, they're doing the Mandarin, the villain for Iron Man. And he's like, America. And I'm like, oh. And then they did a swap, the old switcheroo. Ben Kingsley's character is like some stoner guy who's an actor on TV and has no idea what's going on. I'm like, that's Zelensky. If you got him in a room, he'd be like, look, I'm a comedian on TV. I has no idea what's going on. I'm like, that's Zelensky. If you got him in a room, he'd be like, look, I'm a comedian on TV. I have no idea what's going on.
Starting point is 01:06:28 I've never seen actual frontline battle. I just do soundstage stuff. Yeah. And he does feel like he's performing all the time. Like you saw the video of him doing the single ladies dance and like the guitar. It's hard to take that seriously. But then also he's like he he actually has a costume for this conflict. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:43 He's always in military fatigues or military-esque clothing to remind people that they're in conflict, even when he's, you know, obviously nowhere near any sort of fighting and he's in whatever country asking for money. Right. You couldn't put on a suit? And he's like, no, I have this costume I've got to stick with. Oh, my gosh. All right. Let's tone things down and jump to American domestic politics again.
Starting point is 01:07:03 We have a story from OutKick. I'm so excited for this one. Taylor Swift lyrics enrage social media. But are people overreacting? I'm so glad. Well, Betridge's Laws of Headlines, I think that's what it's called. Can you fact check me on that one? Is that whenever a news headline ends with a question mark, the answer is no.
Starting point is 01:07:20 However, in this instance, you don't need to ask the question. People are overreacting. Basically, what happens is, and of course, you know, Hannah Clare being a major Swifty. So here's this video. I'm going to play this video for you. And I'd like you to hear what Taylor Swift has to say to her audience. Did you guys hear that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Yeah. Yeah. She sang F the Patriarchy and all the kids cheer along and conservatives are losing their minds. I'm so glad we're talking about this because, first of all, David Hookstead is a friend of mine and I'm a Swifty. And you know the truth. I do. The truth is it's an old song and she's talking about a guy. She is. She's quoting. Jake Gyllenhaal.
Starting point is 01:08:07 It was Jake Gyllenhaal. Jake Gyllenhaal. She's, okay, so. We know. Everybody's. I see, I see, I saw every, this is what always happens. People, people overreact. They don't get the full context.
Starting point is 01:08:18 So when I saw a video of Taylor Swift saying F the patriarchy, I am not a Swifty. I was like, I Google searched F the patriarchy, Taylor Swift, saw the song, listened to it. And I was like, oh, she's saying you threw me your car keys and you had a keychain that said F the Patriarchy. She's like insulting the guy. It's a song about the fact that she dated a male feminist who treated her badly. It's a 10 minute long song about how this crashed and burned. That has been in her set list for this
Starting point is 01:08:46 tour from the beginning. I know I saw it in Colorado last summer, right? Like everyone yelled it then to conservatives. Like I get that you're upset about this. You're not listening to the context. And also you're like panicked pearl clutching at something that you're so out of touch with. It's honestly sort of sad because this is one of the most viral tours. Every time she goes on stage and changes her costumes, it goes everywhere. And you guys couldn't figure out that this has been a song lyric for actual years. It's not just that. It's that the song's critical of the guy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:09:15 She's not saying this for herself. She's quoting that he did it. Right. She's condescending to the guy. Imagine if Charlie Kirk got on stage and then started yelling. You got people who are saying it's not enough to not be racist. We've got to be actively anti-racist. And then it was our booing him and posting clips being like, how dare you say that, Charlie? It's like he's he's he's saying don't do that. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:39 I get frustrated with this whole conversation because, first of all, I would just like to say I am very conservative. I would never call myself a feminist. I'm very pro-life. You know, I am probably the opposite of everything that Taylor Swift stands for. That being said, I feel like conservatives, especially conservative men, embarrass themselves by their takes on Taylor Swift because what they're trying to do is say, look, she's teaching young women bad things. She's so liberal. We want her to be this paragon of liberalism. A billionaire capitalist is teaching people bad things?
Starting point is 01:10:08 But it's like, actually, if you look at what she sings, she's pretty tame compared to every other female singer out there. And I'm not saying she's a good example for little girls. Like, I don't think little girls should be listening to someone say F the patriarchy. But at the same time, she's just Taylor Swift. She's a megastar. And this song is a 10-minute review of a relationship she had with a male feminist and how it was bad. I'm sorry, conservatives.
Starting point is 01:10:30 You should recognize what a win this is. I think one of the original tweets that went viral is from Mary Morgan of Pop Culture Crisis. I think she needs a Hannah Clare intervention to explain the nuances of Taylor Swift to her. Look, I mean, again, it's funny because that song, you know, it's called All Too Well. It came out back in the day. Then she re-recorded all of her albums. And this one in particular, she made 10 minutes long. She added this part about the key chain or whatever else.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Like, it's super old news. People were like, I remember people writing about it back then. Like, oh, she says F the page drug in context of this thing. But again, like, it's actually a song about a male feminist who treated her badly listen listen like all too well is a a really well-crafted song like people people like to get on taylor swift listen like because she's popular and because you know she's i don't whatever they they don't like her her teeth or, I don't care. But she is an extremely accomplished songwriter
Starting point is 01:11:28 for a reason. She plays piano, she plays guitar, she does all this while she's singing. She performs really well. So this idea that she's like some hack and that you can dunk on her as being some kind of product of a
Starting point is 01:11:46 record company or something, that is a complete and total clown show, and you only make yourself unappealing to potential voters. Don't hate on popular things just because you're stupid and a loser. Especially if you're months late to this, right? If she had just added this song to the set list, I would get where you're like, oh, she says this thing I had no idea about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:06 It's been there for a long time. When's the song from? It's from, she re-recorded a couple of years ago. No, no, but when's the original? The original song. It was on the red record from 2012 or 13. But this line wasn't on the original. Yeah, this is the 10-minute version.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Oh, really? So she re-recorded it. But again, that was like, what? Three or four years ago? She wrote it back. All right. Whichever. At the beginning.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Again, she's been on tour for over a year so this this is this is why i don't care about taylor swift at all the issue here is not taylor swift the issue is she is mass it's this is the biggest music tour like one of the biggest music tours ever normies love taylor she is not herself singing F the Patriarchy and telling little girls to think that. She's telling a story of something she saw. I don't get why conservatives are so hell bent on declaring war on someone who is not at war with them. There's no reason to be. Many people have pointed out that Taylor Swift is, she's like, what?
Starting point is 01:13:03 She's like, how old is she? 35? 34. And she's writing now about how is she, 35? 34. 34. And she's writing now about how she wants to get married and have kids. And her hunky football player was on stage last night. It's prom night. It's prom night. But what's frustrating is, again, I don't care about Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 01:13:17 You've got to figure out all these pundits, right? We've got Paul Joseph Watson. We've got Darren Grimes. We've got Paul, I don't know who that is, TJ Mo We got Paul Joseph Watson. We got Darren Grimes. We got Paul Sippa. I don't know that is TJ. All these people, Mary Morgan. Well, we'll talk to Mary because she works here, but all these people need to recognize like you're going after the normies to convince them of some of things that are good and they enjoy listening to Taylor Swift sing. So what you need to do is highlight all of the things that Taylor Swift is doing well.
Starting point is 01:13:45 And I'll put it simply. If a 24-year-old woman is walking down the street apolitical, she doesn't really pay attention, so she probably has a default lib. And you walk up and say, F Taylor Swift. She's now going to be like, I don't like you. Yeah. She's not going to listen to anything you say. You walk up and say, isn't it amazing that we have this like young woman who's got the hunky football guy? It's like, it's a good old American apple pie, the football guy and the cheerleader.
Starting point is 01:14:15 And she's, you remember, remember when she was singing how she's on the bleachers and whatever, and now she's got the guy. And that's the American dream to get married and have kids. That 24 year old is going to be like, that's so cool. Yeah. And she's going to like you. And then you can say, here's what else I think. You should agree with me.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Listen, conservatives, don't hate popular things just because you're stupid. Right. Well, and I would like to make one more point on this. I think conservatives get it so wrong on her music and other popular female musicians in that she's singing about love all the time. She's not singing about politics. This is a crazy thing. Why isn't this article about WAP? Or literally, I could probably go on the Billboard Hot 100 right now
Starting point is 01:14:57 and find 50 songs that are just degenerate garbage. Or where were all the conservative commenters? I mean, some of them did pick this up, but when Olivia Rodrigo, who's also a pop star, was giving out Plan B at her concert. Right. And she got roasted for that. She did. But like.
Starting point is 01:15:10 And her target audience is younger girls. That's my thing, though. There is actually something way more serious than Taylor Swift telling you she dated a guy who had an F the Patriarchy key chain on his keys. Like, let's hold these things in comparison here. And I think it's just a fundamental misunderstanding of the topic at hand you know everyone wants to be viral now everyone wants to have a quick take so we say stupid things uh like like phil saying we say stupid things about things we have no idea about and then uh it just makes us look dumb and out of touch like come on this has been going on for like over a year well and to tim's point about your average
Starting point is 01:15:42 24 year old girl on the, this is kind of cool moment that Taylor Swift is in. She was posting last night about how much she loves her boyfriend. Do we want to repel Taylor Swift, too? I'm not saying she's going to become some conservative, because that's naive. But at the same time, like, why not encourage her in these good things? I'll tell
Starting point is 01:16:00 you this. I'll tell you what I think of Taylor Swift. I think behind the scenes, she's a fair-weather conservative. There are bunch of uh rock stars that i will not out okay but they're fair weather conservatives behind the scenes they're basically saying like oh i'm gonna vote for donald trump i vote for all the republicans but i got music to sell and i don't want to get political in my product my you know and i think that's wrong because the left does the opposite. So it's annoying. You get a lot of these,
Starting point is 01:16:28 you get a lot of celebrities. It's the most annoying thing in the world. Celebrities, pro athletes, actors, musicians, whatever. And they'll message me and be like, oh man, I'm so excited. I'm gonna vote for Trump. And I'm like, hey,
Starting point is 01:16:38 why don't you post that on Instagram? And they're like, oh no, I wouldn't do that. And I'm like, dude, the left won't stop doing that. You need to start. I'm willing to bet. You look at where Taylor Swift is from, I wouldn't do that. And I'm like, dude, the left won't stop doing that. You need to start. I'm willing to bet. You look at where Taylor Swift is from.
Starting point is 01:16:48 I know people post that documentary clip where she's crying about Trump or whatever. And I'm like, dude, I'm willing to bet behind the scenes. She is like moderate right. No, she's dated multiple guys. Who's that? Mattie Healy. Yeah, 1975. Yeah, he's very controversial controversial and she got very angry she wrote
Starting point is 01:17:06 a whole song about how everyone tried to tell her she couldn't date him because of politics and she was furious uh so i i would believe that to him i mean she she definitely i mean her dad was like a rich republican people found out and were like really yeah he owns a christmas tree farm right isn't that she threw up on the fact of the the matter is, one of the things that we talk about frequently here is we have to have like, we have to endorse family values, right? And we have to endorse basically
Starting point is 01:17:33 normalcy. We don't want to center the things that are essentially on the outside and on the margins because they tend to be on the margins for a reason. Taylor Swift is dating a man. That's a victory! A for a reason. Taylor Swift is dating a man. That's a victory.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Taylor Swift is probably a man. Taylor Swift probably could or may get pregnant by that man through normal means. I actually take the W. Take the W. If that happens, the fertility rate of the U.S. is going to jump like 2.1. Yes,
Starting point is 01:18:02 it is. Thank goodness. Like everyone. Stop being stupid. I said this like six months 2.1. Yes. It is. Thank goodness. Stop being stupid. I said this like six months ago. I did too. She's going to usher in a baby boom. And I think this is the thing that people don't appreciate. Like every conservative dad who is watching this clip being like,
Starting point is 01:18:13 oh, the patriarchy. No, but remember, hold on, hold on. They should go to their daughters and be like, yeah, it sounds like that guy who was claiming to be against the patriarchy treated her really badly. Imagine what happens when Taylor's next album is all about being a mom, how she loves her kids and how she made Rice Krispie treats. And then she makes a music video with her kid and she's like stirring the marshmallow
Starting point is 01:18:33 and smiling. And then what all of the Swifties who are going to be in their mid to late 20s are going to be wanting to do. Her latest album has this line because she's talking about whatever relationship because she just dated someone for like six years and they didn't get married or have kids. She has several references to the fact that like she wanted to have kids. She waited at the altar. She gave you all the stolen youth for free.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Like this is really interesting messaging. It was super powerful. And she literally said, you stole my good years. And that is a current very relevant. This is something young women need to hear. And I get that you don't love Taylor Swift. You don't have to love her but also these are messages young women should actually be hearing that you can't date someone forever and ever and then when they don't marry you be like it's cool i'll just keep waiting all of the conservatives that are that are giving her
Starting point is 01:19:16 crap and stuff they're doing it entirely they're what they're doing is totally counterproductive to what to what they're what their stated messaging is it's counterproductive to what their stated messaging is. It's counterproductive, and they're only doing it to raise their own celebrity level. So that way they can get the hot dunk on Taylor Swift, so maybe it'll go viral. It's self-serving. It's counterproductive. It's bad for any type of conservative agenda at all. It is stupid. Stop being stupid,
Starting point is 01:19:48 especially in election years, you stupid, stupid idiots. Our fertility rate is too low for this. Let's jump to this next story. We've got some Axios. This is really interesting. Vivek Ramaswamy meets with BuzzFeed CEO amid activist campaign. Oh boy.
Starting point is 01:20:03 He brought Patrick Bet-David and who did he bring? He brought Chris Bell from Red Seat Ventures. We'll get into that in a second. The news is Vivek Ramaswamy and BuzzFeed CEO Jonah Peretti recently met for more than an hour to discuss the former presidential candidate's activist campaign against the media company.
Starting point is 01:20:21 He's turning the company around. Come on. I love that. His thing is like, I think we can save you. And they're like, he's against them. Yeah. Ramaswamy announced his BuzzFeed stake with an incendiary letter. Full disclosure, too. I also bought a bunch of shares in in BuzzFeed, too. And because I really just would love to own BuzzFeed. What is this? Let me see. Where am I at with BuzzFeed uh i don't have a lot of buzzfeed i've got 20 23 000 shares ish or so and i think it's a good buy i'm not telling anyone what to do but i
Starting point is 01:20:53 just want to make sure that's known because i'm reporting on a story about buzzfeed but when i heard that the vape was going in and trying to save the company it seemed like he might actually do it and then it seems like a good buy. But, you know, again, just make sure that's full disclosure. They say BuzzFeed stock climbed above $3 per share upon Ramaswamy's initial disclosure of a 7.7% ownership.
Starting point is 01:21:13 He's since increased that now to 8.9. He met with the CEO and they say two of the three individuals he wants added to the company's board, Chris Balfe of Red Seat Ventures. Full disclosure, Red Seat Ventures also does our ad sales, and podcaster Patrick Bet-David, full disclosure, we know that guy. Ramaswamy's third director pick, Outkick founder Clay Travis, did not attend but
Starting point is 01:21:36 was briefed. All three proposed directors, who hadn't been publicly identified until now, are veterans of conservative media. Ramaswamy claimed in the meeting that several former BuzzFeed employees and early investors reached out to him saying the company needed change. He also got reminded that shareholders would likely need to vote on any major change. Now, Ramaswamy's got 9% and he's asking for a 37.5% piece of the board. Ramaswamy tells Axios the meeting was constructive. A BuzzFeed spokesperson says we appreciate Vivek Ramaswamy's recommendations, and they will be sent to governance as per the formal process that he is no doubt aware of.
Starting point is 01:22:13 So I'm going to tell you my position because this is very, very, I'm personally involved. I normally don't like buying stocks at all, any of them, because we do this show. And that means if I report on something, it could directly impact a stock that I'm holding, so I don't like to do that. But I will give you that full disclosure. When I saw Vivek was making these moves, being somebody who works in media, understanding how media machines operate, hearing what Vivek has said, this to me was, I'm thinking to myself, I know how this stuff works. I'm confident in Vivek, one of the smartest guys I've ever met. This seems like he could actually turn the company around. I would love to own BuzzFeed.
Starting point is 01:22:47 So I bought as much as I did. This is going to be interesting because I do believe Vivek's going to win and BuzzFeed may become normal. I think it's weird they called his letter incendiary. Like if you read his letter, he's like, hey, I buy your stock because I believe that this company has value. And here are some ways you can turn it around. And, you know, I mean, I guess it's really calling them out.
Starting point is 01:23:08 At one point, he points out that they have, they're basically operating at a, their operating expenses are something like 147% higher than their revenue. Like it doesn't make any sense. Where does the money come from? Who knows? It's hard to say. I think that this is a very it's only seeming like a takeover or activist campaign.
Starting point is 01:23:30 They're only treating it negatively because of Vivek Ramaswamy. Yeah. Oh, it was, you know, Taylor Swift being like, I believe BuzzFeed could get better. They'd be like, wow, so interesting. Girlboss. Good job. But if Vivek Ramaswamy does it, he can only have malicious intentions. And he can't just be operating as a businessman, which is, by the way, what he was before he launched his presidential bid. You know, it's kind of crazy because as I pulled up, you know, my stocks to see, like to say, like full disclosure, I've got twenty three thousand. I think this news resulted in a huge spike. I'm just saying that right now that Vivekk is basically like, hey guys, I have an idea to save the company. All of a sudden, everybody's like, please do this, please. The fascinating thing is the resistance that still exists.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Even Axios calling it against the camp media company. Look at this, against it? It's gonna save it. I want your company to function well and be profitable. He's against BuzzFeed. Their whole business model is losing money. Honest question. Where does this money come from? Seriously, if they're operating at 147 percent above their revenue and the whole of media is like Vivek is trying to destroy this company, then who's funding it? It's a mystery to me.
Starting point is 01:24:41 The conspiracy theory is that the government is funding these things. I don't know if I believe that, but someone's putting money into this to keep this thing afloat. Look, there are a lot of wealthy people. Let's say a guy owns a cookie factory and the cookie does $20 million in sales and he pockets $10 million of that. He might spend $5 million a year losing money because he just he wants to open a mini golf putt putt yeah he loves it and so he does yeah i'm wondering if like there's some billionaire probably who's just like buzzfeed puts out a positive woke message that they want and so they put money into to keep it running but that doesn't make sense actually because then
Starting point is 01:25:21 then their revenue would be above their costs if you're if if a billion well i guess it's an investment or a debt financing i don't know i don't get it the thing is when they went public right they are like since they have gone public their shares have crashed it's like 95 down or something like that so even the fact that literally like him being like i am investing in buzzfeed and the fact that shares went up like he's already having a more net positive impact than their leadership has had over the last year or however many months it's been since they went public. And he is somehow the villain. Like, yeah, it said the stock climbed above three dollars a share on his initial disclosure after being in free fall for I mean, I think it's over a year at this point. I could be slightly wrong on that, but he is adding value
Starting point is 01:26:03 to the company simply by saying, like, I think this is something you should invest in. That's fascinating. BuzzFeed is down 93.36% from its IPO. I find it fascinating in general, since the only thing I know BuzzFeed for are those like quizzes, which Disney prints are you, which my friends and I used to take in high school. What ramen flavor will you eat? And they'll tell you what your perfect job is. Yeah. The psychological profiles that they were doing, you yeah yeah it's just like that's it exactly what they were but they've never produced real journalism they've only done like hit pieces right they did
Starting point is 01:26:34 have some big stories come out of buzzfeed news um they were the first on a couple i mean uh um the harvey weinstein story at one point didn't they were they like there's a couple and again i would direct everyone to Vikram Soni's letter because he points that out. Like he was like, at one time you did have some, you know, I think of them as listicles too, but they did have a couple of big stories, but they shut down Buzzfeed News over a year.
Starting point is 01:26:54 It was like April of last year, I think. And so they are existing, but without direction. And I think, you know, my big takeaway is that he is saying like you should have a broader reach of viewpoints. He mentioned having Candace Owens a bunch of other people on and you should go back to being the size of a startup like you should make your business viable and also maybe try to attract a bigger audience and I think that that's crazy that they're like how could he do this this crazy guy I was just reading about how I believe it's the Washington Post. Their newsroom is in shambles because they brought in someone new to help resurrect the newsroom because nothing they're writing anymore is getting any views.
Starting point is 01:27:35 And the fact of the matter is, I mean, I work for conservative news outlets. I've worked for conservative news outlets for the past six or seven years. And we know at these outlets that we exist to fill the void that the other media outlets leave because they're not doing it there's a huge hole uh whether it's you know like covet hypocrisy the governor's saying do as i say and as i do they just don't cover that so for conservative media we have this huge plethora of stories that no one else will talk about but for buzzfeed all they have to do is tell the truth and they will get lots of readership. They will get lots of views because people want that. They don't want to read, for example,
Starting point is 01:28:11 The Daily Caller if they're not conservative. They want a truthful source that's not going to push them the wrong way. And so I think there's a huge gap here for, you know, the so-called moderates that are looking for a news outlet that is truthful and honest but we just don't have that anymore it doesn't exist yeah and i mean and i'm not saying conservative outlets are not truthful and honest i just think there's a huge population that's just not even going to read that um you know i write news every day but i know there are people that when they see daily signal they just aren't going to read it yeah i think that's true and i think conservatives do this too i think there's some stuff where you, I mean, like I'm never going to look at anything
Starting point is 01:28:46 from like salon.com and be like, I trust you for sure, guys. I'll read it for laughs. I read it for like the perspective, right? Like there are definitely different like niche interest outlets that's kind of interesting. Like I think it's Roots. I'll read their stuff, especially when they write about Candace Owens because they just hate her so much.
Starting point is 01:29:01 So it's interesting to get another perspective. But it's, again, you go, I would click on that knowing that there is a slant there as opposed to you know nbc abc any of these news outlets that are mainstream that are trying to pretend that they are neutral when actually they obviously also have a bias um they're more deceptive than right that is like we are conservative and that's our band let me just pull up some of what buzzfeed is currently working on here Here's one. Popular. People who won the genetic lottery are sharing how they're basically better than everyone else, and it's so freaking true. Good grief.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Wow. So let's take a look at their number one trending right here in the big front page. Big old trending. Look at that trending. 58 responses. 58. That's a big number, BuzzFeed. 58. Can you say 58, BuzzFeed?
Starting point is 01:29:46 Wow. The most cringey moments in the history of film. Their number one is that, but the one with Mindy Kaling has 67 engagements? I'm not sure how they decide what's trending. Trending number one, here it says. Here are the celebs who were spotted at Taylor Swift's heiress tour in London. That is good information. 29
Starting point is 01:30:02 emojis. 29 emojis. There you go. Oh, look, they covered this man's nipples. 19 comments. 19? That's a big number. That's good for BuzzFeed. This is quality content. I don't understand how BuzzFeed makes money at this point.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Their quizzes? What if their quizzes are just like a billion dollar industry, but then they wouldn't be operating the way they are. I don't understand it at all but i don't i don't understand jonah peretti like it feels like buzzfeed is dead there was this when i was because i've covered a little i've been covering uh vivek's uh you know apparently hostile takeover of buzzfeed uh you know since he kind of announced it and i find it really interesting because at one point i was reading the statement from peretti where he's effectively saying to the board like you know they've been losing money they're their
Starting point is 01:30:46 stock price down he's like don't worry I'm gonna start making money I'm gonna start taking that more seriously don't worry guys like how are you still why did you not get fired yeah who was on the board where they're like this guy is well we'll just hang on we'll keep giving him chances they've had mass like multiple rounds of mass layoffs I mean, that does lend credence to Tim's theory that there's someone that just doesn't really care that they're losing money and is willing to bankroll it. I guess. But why would you, I mean,
Starting point is 01:31:14 maybe it's a psychological experimentation, right? Somebody's collecting all the data on all their users. Well, yeah, I mean, they spend a lot of time putting out those, I mean, they spent a decade putting out those silly quizzes. And all that was was just collecting data. The reason for it was just to get people to click and collect data. What did they do with it? I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:31:36 But I mean, it's extremely valuable when you can use it to market, to target advertisers. And I'm sure that they have the ability to do that. Because advertisers collect all kinds of data. It's not even just like what you're clicking on, but how long it takes you to click it. I mean, they must have sold it. Facebook has this policy of creating shadow. What's it called? Shadow accounts.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Shadow profiles. Yeah. So when you approve Facebook or Instagram or Messenger to get all of your contacts from your phone, they take everything and then they keep that data. And then anytime someone else allows them to have all the data in their phone, they go ahead and they match up numbers and names that correspond. If they have two different phones with the same name and number, they create a profile for that person.
Starting point is 01:32:24 And then they'll start doing things like looking for those for looking for people to check those people into places so they will literally track your location even if you don't have a facebook account if you've never had one they still do this to this day and it's a constant thing that that's going on this is not new this is consistent so the idea like the amount of data that things that organizations like Facebook, Google have is beyond, honestly, it's beyond human comprehension. We're going to go to Super Chat. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? One like equals one Let's Go Brandon. And head over to TimCast.com. Click join us to support our
Starting point is 01:32:59 work. Ladies and gentlemen, we are entering full swing of the election season. Google reached out to me, YouTube, about CNN trying to, I'm going to tell you my opinion on it. It's about CNN trying to stop people from being able to comment on the upcoming debate. So we'll see what happens. That's the warning I've received. So I have to imagine we're going to need your support more than ever as we get closer and closer to November. Go to TimCast.com, click join us, and you'll get access to the uncensored members call-in show. As a member, you can call in, join the show,
Starting point is 01:33:27 talk to us and our guests. But we'll read your superchats now. And I'm going to start with this one, which just came in from BL42JD. It says, nobody cares. W's in the chat for Julian Assange. They can't even mention such an important breaking news topic, just surface-level garbage.
Starting point is 01:33:45 He's so angry. And we talked about Julian Assange, they can't even mention such an important breaking news topic, just surface level garbage. He's so angry. And we talked about Julian Assange twice. This is the weird thing. It's like they tune in the middle of the show and they're like, why aren't they talking about the same thing nonstop for 80 minutes? It's like we opened the show with it and then we did a segment on it. And then we talked about other things. Do you think anybody ever clips irel and makes those like you know tim's opening monologue of irel on loop for one hour video like do you think anyone's ever just like on loop listening to something we've been saying there's infinite stupidity on the
Starting point is 01:34:14 internet so yes it's the difficult thing is low order thinkers fall for these and then perpetuate them it was funny when we we did the culture war debate on friday and we got into an extra hour of the show in three hours talking about civil war. We had Richard Spencer on the show and he was like, he said something like, I've only ever seen the clips from leftists of you. And I didn't realize you're actually talking about history and you've researched the subject matter. And I was like, well, yeah, if you watch IRL, we talk great details about like, you know, Russia, France, Spain, US, etc. But if you watch just clips from leftists, it's like three seconds of me saying Civil War or something. I don't actually hear anything that's being said. Let's go. Clint Torres is the first super chat saying, howdy, people, as he always does. Howdy, Clint. And then token, token black guy with number two
Starting point is 01:35:02 saying howdy, people. There you go. All right. Big 7588 says DOJ filed elder abuse charges against Trump in anticipation of how badly he will thrash Biden. Oh my gosh. I honestly. You're like, it's not going to happen. But if it did, I'd be like, well, you know. Everyone's funny. Like they're trying to charge him with everything.
Starting point is 01:35:19 I like that line. I like to feel as the swamp runs through her veins. Yeah. Noah Bodie says, hope you're simulcasting that night. Cough. Rumble. Here's how it works. Streamlabs OBS has a simulcasting function,
Starting point is 01:35:35 but apparently you need to have a paid account, and you don't need to have one? We would just be doing it through Restream, ideally. Restream? Yeah. But we already have a system set up, and we don't want to go through a third-party web browser thing. See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Behind the scenes, it's like there's a bunch of different programs and different ways to do it, and there's pros and cons to each. So we're going to figure it out. We've been looking at this one for a couple of months now, ever since YouTube deleted our top episodes. And then we do re we do
Starting point is 01:36:08 simulcast the tenant media show on tenant. They, they, they simulcast it on X and on YouTube. And so we actually have a system built for that. We just need to see what we can do because when you're broadcasting out, there's an, depending on how you do it, you'll be streaming larger and larger amounts of data. So something to consider that when we do the stream. But the plan for now is XRumble and YouTube, but we will see. I don't know for sure. That's the plan for now.
Starting point is 01:36:37 We just found this stuff out a couple hours ago, and then I was immediately like, okay, let's sort this out tomorrow when we have time or whatever. So we don't know what's going to happen, but that's the plan. Greg Dubier says, let's see, what the hell is this Timcast? Bring back Brimcast.
Starting point is 01:36:52 She is a much better dictator. Look, guys, I'm so appreciative for all the support for my dictatorship. I want my coup to be gradual. It's got to have era. Sometimes I'm here. Sometimes Tim's in charge. Where's Shimcast? Shimcast is lame and we never speak of it. So you take that back right away.
Starting point is 01:37:07 No, honestly, I am appreciative of all the support and I'm glad that Tim can, you know, deal with a root canal and you guys are cool with it. Not going to have, be too upset about their place. No, no. Fortunately, the root canal was a long time ago. What? I didn't get a root canal on Thursday. Well, you had a root canal issue.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Yeah, it was from the root canal I already had. We had an idea for a new coffee blend. And we're trying to figure out, because we're going to do, we're planning on doing Focus with Mr. Bocas, which is our espresso roast. That will replace Mr. Bocas Pumpkin Spice Experience, which will be retiring. We accidentally ordered extra Mr. Bocas, so it still exists. Once it's gone, it's gone forever. But then we're going to do the espresso, which is Focus with Mr. Bocas in memory of Mr. Bocas, so it still exists. Once it's gone, it's gone forever. But then we're going to do the espresso, which is Focus with Mr. Bocas in memory of Mr.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Bocas. But then I was like, we've got to do one for Seamus, and I'm talking about our cat. And I was like, we should call it The Real Seamus, and it's the cat. And then we'll put a picture of Seamus Coughlin in the corner looking up angrily at the cat. Kind of confused Seamus, like, The Real
Starting point is 01:38:04 Seamus. I love it. Seamus 1 is the cat, and Seamus like the real Seamus I love it Seamus one is the cat and Seamus two is the cartoonist I have a brother named Seamus there you go he's Seamus three Irish of you alright where are we at Jason Hutchinson says no in studio audience control of mics etc how do we
Starting point is 01:38:20 know this debate will even be live and unedited I mentioned this earlier it was a good super chat, Jason. I agree. They can do all sorts of tricks live. They can do live editing with a delay. So if it's live and they give themselves like a three or five minute delay, they can edit things that are said and nobody would know it wasn't live. That's wild.
Starting point is 01:38:43 There's a lot of poker live streams and they're like two hours delayed like that's how big they delays can go forever and it's run like it's a live stream now granted if they did a two-hour delay the trump team and everyone's going to notice something's up because like hey that was a while ago but if it's a it's like a minute or two you won't notice well and they aren't there's a a lot of restrictions and one of the restrictions is they're not allowed to talk to their aides during the commercial break so if there were delays or if there was an issue no one could like tell like trump wait wait that helps trump oh yeah i thought initially oh it helps trump but if you're cnn and trump's aides can't say
Starting point is 01:39:20 hey they keep cutting you off or what else or they keep doing this with the camera to make you look stupid like yep then you can't prepare it. So it's kind of interesting. It'd be funny if they make Trump orange, like they put an orange light over him. That's very obvious they're doing it, but they just do it anyway. Just a whole debate. It gets more and more orange, like a developing self-tan. I feel like post-debate, though, we're going to have amazing clips of the censorship and
Starting point is 01:39:42 then he's going use that i mean he just made how much money from the last attack on him and now i mean this i only see this being good for him people don't know this a lot of people don't know i think everyone listening knows everyone who listens to this show knows this the the media would intentionally turn trump orange yeah they would take pictures of him and they would put it in Photoshop and they would skew the color so he would look really bright orange. Wow. There's one photo of him that was really notorious for this, where the original, he looks kind of normal.
Starting point is 01:40:11 I mean, he's got a spray tan, but they made him look bright orange. And then what happens is you get shows like Family Guy, that when they make their version of Trump, he's bright orange based off of the fake reality fed to them by the corporate press. These people don't do any research. They don't know better. I'm just wondering what Biden we're going to get because he's off in Camp David prepping right now. So who knows?
Starting point is 01:40:32 Who knows what that means? Are you saying Biden or Biden? Yeah. I wonder which one of the body doubles will be there. No, I'm just kidding. Of course, I think it'll be the real President Joe Biden. It's like Hunter Biden in a wig. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:40:44 I feel like that actually wouldn't be better. I could be wrong. That would be an amazing night. I would be very excited to report on that. Steven Ellis says, anyone going to point out that CNN Journal's name is Kay Hunt? No. That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:41:00 All right. Let's go. Vince says, how can the mods not be biased or a conflict of interest? Dana Bash ex-husband was one of the 50 Intel officials that signed the letter saying the laptop was Russian disinfo. Also works on White House intelligence board. We got an on air gasp from Phil about this. Yeah, so disgusting. I think it should be one moderator from like different networks.
Starting point is 01:41:23 You know, I mean the downside is that so many of the mainstream networks lean left but like theoretically it should be one you know Newsmax host and also the CNN we shouldn't tolerate people that are openly against one of the candidates right so if you're gonna go ahead and take a position because you it is totally possible for people to have an objective view of Donald Trump and Joe Biden. I personally cannot, but other people can. And the idea that it's acceptable to put people that have literally worked against one of the candidates and people that are married to people that are currently in positions with the Intel community or have been in positions with the Intel community because you never leave the Intel community. They don't take your clearance away for no reason.
Starting point is 01:42:08 So you keep it after you leave and you still know all the people. The idea that it's a fair or legitimate platform to hold this, it's ridiculous. It's absurd. And the American people should reject it out of hand. But they've been propagandized since 2012 because of the NDAA. This is a good one. Cosmic Surgeon says Trump needs to accuse Joe of ishing his pants. The debate. No one will be there to argue it. I agree. Could you imagine if Trump's up on stage and they're like, former President Trump, you've recently said that you'll engage in the largest mass deportation effort once you become president. What would this look like?
Starting point is 01:42:48 And how will you assure the American people that it'll be done constitutionally? And then Donald Trump goes, look, you've got millions and millions. Oh, oh, what? That smell coming from Joe is that you? Oh, oh, what would they do? That would be hilarious. It'd be the greatest thing ever. What could they do if that happened? That would be hilarious. It'd be the greatest thing ever. What could they do if that happened?
Starting point is 01:43:07 They would end it. I feel like they would actually cut the stream. They would be like, there's too much misinformation. I think one of the things would be, you know, when Joe like slurs or stutters, like Trump could be like, are you all right, Joe? Are you feeling OK? I mean, but even saying it in the room is going to freak Biden out. Like Biden can still hear him even if we can't that's it's true if if Biden is giving an answer and he pulls a Trinidad
Starting point is 01:43:28 Chabot of pressure Trump can say something like I'm not sure I understood what the former what President Biden actually said could we get some clarification I'm not sure why they agreed to do this without a live audience like legitimately I don't get that Biden doesn't like live audiences yeah but I feel like the trump campaign really should have said no we're gonna do it because then there's witnesses then there's reactions uh and then you know i i for one like would love to have someone in the room that can tell me yes he said xyz his mic wasn't on like i feel like that would be really helpful and also just like better, more entertaining. So Chafed BM, that's a great name, says if Joe Biden's if Joe says something about Trump's fake convictions, Trump needs to call him out for showering with his 16 year old daughter. She wasn't 16 at the time. Was she? She was she was younger than that in the diary.
Starting point is 01:44:18 She was younger. Yeah, she was like saying she was a little kid. Her diary has been confirmed as real. Yeah, but I also think the important thing to understand is the strategy with it. I don't know that Trump going, oh yeah, Joe, well, your daughter says in a diary this, that, or otherwise, and then they get into a spitting match. I really do think that if Joe Biden is giving an answer
Starting point is 01:44:38 and he goes, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, pack Cadillac, pack Cadillac, pack Cadillac, then they say, Trump, you know, how would you like to respond? And he can say, I'm sorry, I could not understand what Joe had said. Could we get him to repeat that? Right. And that will basically be Trump saying to the world, what did, like, the president can't speak?
Starting point is 01:44:57 Yeah. And make sure it's a point that everyone has to pay attention to. And every time Joe Biden garbles, Trump should say, with increasing frustration and concern, I'm concerned. I actually and if I were to say, Jake, can you tell me what Joe just said back for me? Because I'm not sure he's articulating himself clearly. He's having trouble speaking. Right. I also think the biggest thing Trump needs to do in this debate is to not get distracted by any kind of personal jabs. You know, in terms of anything going on, he needs to say over and over again, why are Americans struggling to buy food? Why are their grocery bills so high? Why are all
Starting point is 01:45:29 of our fast food companies coming up with crazy deals to try and get Americans to spend money there? Like, why is every American terrified of the results of your border crisis? He just needs to keep Joe Biden answering for the crisis he has created in this country economically and in terms of national security and not get pulled into any like, well, people don't like you because of this thing, because ultimately Joe Biden can't defend his record. People in chat are saying Joe Rogan should be the moderator. Could you imagine? That would be amazing. President Trump, everyone is concerned about illegal immigration right now. It's the number two issue, according to Gallup. What would you do in your next term that you're not doing now?
Starting point is 01:46:11 And what could you do now? And then when Joe says something like, we're going to pack out a pack, pack out a pack. Rogan's going to go. What? He literally would. Jake Tapper is going to be like, well, that's a very interesting question uh president biden uh trump how would you respond and trump's going to go i have no idea what he said can you tell me what he said and jake's gonna be like well i'll leave it to the president to speak i won't put words in his mouth oh no he'd probably be like we need to
Starting point is 01:46:36 what he said was and give like a very articulate response it's like no that's not what he said you were lying that's going to happen, like legitimately will happen. And the whole like, I'll let the president speak for himself is going to happen, too. What if what here's like, what if Trump and Biden come out on both sides? They never actually meet or shake hands. And then there's this big glass screen in front of Joe. And then it turns out there's that hologram technology. You ever see that where they put a glass screen on stage and then they project onto the glass a dead artist? They did this with Tupac, didn't they?
Starting point is 01:47:08 Yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of. And then you're like in the audience and it looks like it's three-dimensional and they're on stage. Then they do this with Obi-Wan Kenobi in A New Hope when he talks to Luke through R2-D2 or something like that. That's the same thing. Well, that didn't happen, but I get your point. That was Princess Leia talking through a hologram. We're learning about
Starting point is 01:47:29 so many other people's cultures. My Star Wars trivia is all wrong. See, we told you about Taylor Swift. You teach me about Star Wars. I actually noticed something really interesting. This is why men and women need each other.
Starting point is 01:47:37 Yes. I noticed something. I was just looking up the rules for the debate because I was curious if there was something else we missed. They're not allowed to sit the whole time,
Starting point is 01:47:44 which I'm so curious that Biden will handle that. They've already replaced Joe Biden's skeleton with metal, so he'll just be stuck upright as it is. That's why he walks so stiff. Right. And then Trump has to rely on his actual human body. So, you know, that's the trick.
Starting point is 01:47:58 It is kind of weird, though. Like, are they going to give Biden like some kind of exosuit or something under his regular suit to keep his body upright? If they could. Biden's going to last minute change the rules so he can call in a second and like beg Kendrick Lamar to come handle this for him. I'm legitimately getting excited. They're not allowed to consult with their teams the whole time either. I just I don't see how Biden is going to. I know this seems like it's all set up.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Trump goes off. You put Trump in a room and say, hey, Trump, can you want to just talk for an hour? And he's like, I'd love to. And he's going to be like, how's it going? We got a bunch of beautiful. He just goes off. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:34 Biden's going to be like. That's why they have a CNN debate. It's the first one. I'm sure the Biden team wanted that, right? Yeah. And also that means that the moderator is the one saying, oh, I'm cutting you off now. Your mic is off. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:47 So because Trump could literally take up the whole time. What if this is on purpose? And the point is they're setting up Biden to fail so they can force his removal. What if and what if, what if they go by the DNC goes to Biden and say, we want to get someone else to run. You're not polling well and you're too old and he loses. He's like, no, you cannot do that. We will not stand. And I will not accept that. I will not publicly resign. And they're like, what do we do? So they, you got to do a debate. And then they're like, basically set it up so that Biden will fail miserably and it'll
Starting point is 01:49:18 force him to accept a resignation. Honestly, I could see it. It doesn't make any sense to me why they're letting him do this. I, I would, I, I would bet money that It doesn't make any sense to me why they're letting him do this. I would bet money that they won't let him do a second one. The problem is no one can figure out how you get Kamala Harris out of there. Yeah. Because if Biden does say no, then what happens to Kamala? Are we getting vice presidential debates this year? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:42 Because Trump hasn't named his VP yet. That would be whole. I want one. Normally. Badly hasn't named his VP yet. That would be, I want one. Normally. Badly. Normally we always get them. Yeah, but if Trump picks like Tim Scott or Burgum, then no. I'm not interested.
Starting point is 01:49:53 So who would be the best? Vivek. I don't know, man. She could blow it no matter who it is. No, I'm imagining like on stage with Harris. Who would do the best job? Vivek. Really?
Starting point is 01:50:00 Actually anyone at all. A manic. No, no, no, no. Not me. Tim Scott and Burgum would be boring and we'd be groaning like, no, no. If it was, I'm not saying Vivek would be the best VP, but Vivek on stage with Kamala Harris, it would be like watching Mike Tyson box a toddler. What about J.D. Vance and Kamala Harris?
Starting point is 01:50:20 I think he'd be good too. He'd be good. I think that they're both better than some options that are out there. Again, I feel like I don't necessarily want Ramos-Wanry to be the VP, so I'm more likely to lean towards J.D. Vance. But there are a lot of quick-witted conservatives that could handle Kamala, whereas there really aren't that many. Like, even if they could get her out for some reason, there aren't that many strong debaters
Starting point is 01:50:43 from what I can see on the left. Yeah. We shall see. All right. We got Paul Tascalos. He says the ACLU sued on behalf of Unite the Right in Charlottesville to help them secure a permit to protest in Lee Park. First Amendment. Doesn't the left think the ACLU are very fine people? So when this happened, the backlash the ACLU received was so intense, they abandoned their entire organization's history and became woke leftists. That was really the moment. They defended the Klan. What was it?
Starting point is 01:51:13 They defended neo-Nazis in Skokie, Illinois, famously. And they defended Unite the Right. And then after the backlash from the left, they started losing a bunch of donors. They just flipped 180. And now they sue to have, and this is the funniest thing, they sue to protect pride flags in schools, but sue to keep the Ten Commandments out. And it's like, okay, you're just a woke organization at this point because there's no underlying principle of speech behind doing something like that.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Right. Either you get both or you get neither. Which one is it? They're always down to sue any abortion laws that inhibit Planned Parenthood in any way. I mean, it's very clear as a bias, which is too bad because, again, you know, it would be nice to have organizations that are like, we are here to uphold the principles of your rights, especially as we navigate more complicated technological times and as our culture changes. All right. Eldridge inator says,
Starting point is 01:52:07 saw justice. So to me, or speak at a college event. Once she gestured to the marshals and said, standing up wrong would make them nervous. Shocked. Antifa allowed at justice house. Saw one threatened teens.
Starting point is 01:52:21 Interesting. All right. We'll grab some more super chats here. What do we got? Matthew Vander Sand says, post more skate vids. I got my brother to follow you from the switch hard flip you posted. That is indeed. I posted a switch hard flip. And that is a, I, for me, that, that I landed that trick like in a couple of tries and then we wanted to film it. So I had to land it like four times again. But we're, we're doing for the boonies uh we have a playlist we're calling the tricktionary because there's a lot of people who don't understand trick names in skateboarding so
Starting point is 01:52:55 we are going to create a playlist of every single trick ever and you will be able to search for any trick and see its name and its explanation on YouTube. And I filmed eight today in like 20 minutes. So here's what I did. I did a fakie big spin, fakie 360 shove it, fakie 540 big spin, nollie hard flip, nollie 360 shove it, nollie backside 360 shove it, nollie self and hang 10 shove it.
Starting point is 01:53:22 Those last two are more of a gag, but we do want to have the tricks in the playlist. So I did them anyway. And then we're going to film a lot more. We're going to film a lot more skateboard stuff. It's going to be fun. There you go. Speaking of foreign language, anybody who doesn't know what I'm talking about. And to add more to the foreign language, today I got my NADU commander deck constructed in Magic the Gathering, so Phil knows what I'm talking about there. I'll try to be as esoteric as possible with the hobby stuff. That was fun. Tried it out. The deck is ridiculous and I think it probably should be banned.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Are you going to the store in Martinsburg this weekend? Oh, shout out to Mamba Collectibles in Martinsburg. Maybe. So they have, they play Magic the Gathering Commander on Saturdays and they asked me to come. I was like, I might be there. It's right next to where we're doing the coffee shop anyway.
Starting point is 01:54:07 And so they're cool dudes. And I said, if you play there, I might be there. I think we probably will be there. We'll see. We'll see. But we all have a lot of fun playing with the old Magic the Gathering cards. Silly game. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:54:20 Kyle Ellis says, Tim, it's game seven of the Stanley Cup finals tonight. So if viewership is down, that's why. Actually, viewership is pretty good. I knew Edmonton was going to win, so I tuned into you. Here's 20 bucks. Keep up the good work. Well, thank you all so much. All right. Mateus Mazer says, Hi, Hannah, Claire. I super chatted on Thursday. My name is pronounced Mateus and laser, but with an M. To clarify, I'm a machinist working nights. Our boss doesn't watch and technically we only listen, but we still love y'all. Oh, OK, cool. He said that he's like me and all of my co-workers work, watch every night.
Starting point is 01:54:55 I mean, like, how can you do that and also do your job? But that's interesting. And it is cool that there would be like an office listening to a joint podcast. I bet your conversations are really interesting. This is actually one of the biggest challenges for us metric wise. So Timcast IRL is not a podcast. It is a podcast, but it's not a podcast. It's a primetime show, just like cable shows used to be. Most of our viewership is, well, the largest singular viewership, of course, is the primetime live. But then we get the like the all
Starting point is 01:55:25 the different what I mean is like on YouTube, we get more than all their platforms, but all the platforms combined is like nine, nine times more than just YouTube. However, that's only in digital metrics. The problem we run into is that we know for a fact, around half or more of our audience are watching on their televisions with family and friends. So whereas like most podcast numbers for most podcasts on standard iTunes and stuff, one view is one person. They put their headphones in, they press play. When it says in the metrics, one, that's one person. For us, we've run into this. We don't know how to track it because when we've surveyed people, they're like, I actually watch with two or three other people.
Starting point is 01:56:07 And so they turn the show on their TV while they're sitting there living and while they're playing games while they're working. And five to 10 people might be listening off of one device and we can't track that. But we can track, we figured this out accidentally when we assumed our numbers were the same as everybody else's. And then our sales data came back for sponsorships showing a significantly higher uh viewer rate at first it was just considered a high like sell to viewer ratio and like wow your show's better than everyone else's and then we realized like oh actually it's just that more people are watching than we can actually
Starting point is 01:56:40 track in the traditional means so that's cool i guess it's pretty you know but someone saying their whole office is watching is exactly it's like man i don't know how to track that which would be great because we could uh sell better sponsorships i guess all right jonathan rosenthal said my one-year-old son just said your name tim pool aka daidu that's so cute all right thank you very much. I'll also add that, you know, I was skating today and I felt like a million bucks. And then this thing happened where after I was done skating and ate dinner, I was walking to get socks and all of a sudden my neck went. And I was like, what just happened? And I couldn't move.
Starting point is 01:57:19 I was like, what? I feel like a million bucks. I got sports stretching and everything. Took some ibuprofen and I can move again. I guess it's getting old, right? I don't know, man. Maybe you're dehydrated. It's so hot out.
Starting point is 01:57:28 People like electrolytes. Oh, that's probably it. It's the heat. It's the heat wave. That's probably it. There's a lot to be said for people, like for being hydrated. Like most people walk around a little bit on the dehydrated side. So it's a good idea.
Starting point is 01:57:40 Well, especially today because we have the new mini ramp and they still have to shore up with concrete footers but it's like 85 and i was skating outside and skating in that hot my heart rate was at 185 for like 20 minutes while i was outside because it's trying to regulate the heat in your body and if you watch the weather reports on the heat waves like it's also the humidity which makes everything feel you know at least 10 degrees hotter i mean it's a it's a big deal yeah i went to bed like two hours early last night after my workout i was just it's too much it's heat all right bill hoekstra says the taylor swift thing is a major problem with social media and mainstream media doing out of
Starting point is 01:58:18 context cheap fakes look at more than a 60 second clip re Reels and TikTok messing with the hive mind sunk in the phone. I'll give a shout out to that show Evil, which is like weirdly okay. Like a C plus show, but it's kind of woke. Because they did an episode where everyone's going psychotic because of TikTok. And I actually really, really respected the episode. So they're investigating. This show is like they investigate possessions. And they find some woman who posts videos of her kids being haunted and then one could get slashed in the back and he's bleeding
Starting point is 01:58:48 and then they show up because it was live streamed and they're like how did you live show it's like i didn't do this i don't know what's going on and then it's kind of obvious she's lying duh and she's actually slicing her kids up on camera for views. Oh, my gosh. And when they confront her about it, like, we have the raw video footage of you doing this. She turns the live stream on and then starts acting like she's possessed and then tries to attack them. Oh, my gosh. So it's like the social media version of Munchausen by proxy. It was literally a Munchausen by proxy thing.
Starting point is 01:59:21 It was like, I was actually impressed with that. What twist, though? She's actually possessed because who does that nope she was not possessed the show never has any like the show's weird like they act like there's demons but they always find out it's not demonic it was a mom physically abusing her kids to get attention on social media and i was like and then it ends with them like shoving turning their phones off putting them away and being like and it was literally it was called it was called like vid pic or something. I don't know, but it was TikTok.
Starting point is 01:59:49 It was like, they're watching the videos and swiping. And then at the end, they're like, this is making people psychotic. And they turn it off. And I'm like, thank you. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 02:00:01 Yeah. Shout out. Also, I've been watching the boys. Have you guys watched that? Okay. I like the show, but it's clearly written by a liberal, woke leftist who thinks they're being fair. What is the show? The Boys on Amazon Prime.
Starting point is 02:00:16 It's a superhero show, but it's kind of realistic and gritty. The guy who's a super, he's like Superman, basically. He's called Homelander, super he's like superman basically he's called homelander and he's donald trump and so like that's his whole arc is he's basically trump and he's an you know it's weird but they really really overdo it so they have a character on the show now who's saying like f around and find out there's a in the background in one of the episodes they're like alex jones look-alike contest will be in three hours i've heard uh i've heard that the writer of the show has been quoted as saying didn't you know we were making fun of you all the time conservatives blah blah blah so the the he there and he says yes but
Starting point is 02:00:56 the character firecracker spoiler alert i guess i'm gonna say it anyway because the show's like it's coming on but uh the character firecracker who's basically she's like a conservative personality and she's a she's spreading misinformation or whatever. Some of it's not the motivation for her, though. This is interesting. They clearly depict all the right wing people as super psychotic, flat earth. There's another nonsense, which isn't real. And so this character Firecracker hates the character Starlight.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Starlight's one of the main characters. And she's played by that Aaron Moriarty woman who's got massive plastic surgery, by the way. Remember that? When everyone was like, what happened to her? And she denied it. You can clearly look at the last season and this season and be like, yo, she got it. Okay, that's my opinion. Bad plastic surgery.
Starting point is 02:01:38 No, they all do. But it's bad. Like, she's talking like this with her lips out. Anyway, I digress. So they make the conservatives seem like really dumb and bad guys. But the motivation for Firecracker is that the main character is supposed to be the nice liberal one. She got an abortion. When they were little, she insulted the girl in public, like in front of a bunch of other people at a pageant, calling her a whore or something and claiming to all the other girls that she was in a gangbang and something like that like really awful bullying of some and so that was the
Starting point is 02:02:10 motivation for the right wing character and i'm like it's clearly a liberal who thinks they're being fair like well starlight was really awful to her and was bullying her when she was little and she's getting retaliation but they depict them in the wrong way anyway we'll talk we'll talk more about other really gross stuff i guess in the in the members-only show. So head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, support our work. We're going to need your support heading into election season because we've already dealt with a couple of lawsuits in the past couple of months, and those, I am proud to say, resolved, as far as I know, and that's good news. And we're definitely going to be dealing with more because this is politics.
Starting point is 02:02:48 And we are not the biggest political show, but we're one of them. And we have, on average, the largest live audience for our time slot here on YouTube Live. And that's probably why they reached out about the CNN debate thing, because they don't want us to fact check and to counter. So head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member if you want to help us out and see this ship stay afloat while we navigate this murky waters. You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast. Mary Margaret, do you want to shout anything out? Yeah, read my book, Detrans, True Stories of Escaping the Gender Ideology Cult. Just came out May 28th. It's on Amazon. Right on. And you have an X profile or anything like that? I do.
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Starting point is 02:03:32 But yeah, follow me. I tweet all my reporting, my videos. You can put up with me over there. Because your name was so long for the title of YouTube, next time I'm just going to put Marmo. You can do MMO.
Starting point is 02:03:44 That's what my girlfriends call me. MMO? They're texting me right now. That's a good one, actually. They're saying, say our names. MMO. All right, Phil, what up? I am philtheremains on Twix.
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