Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1061 Biden Tells Allies HE MAY QUIT, Reports HES RESIGNING, WH DENIES It w/Daniel Turner

Episode Date: July 4, 2024

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Kellen are joined by Daniel Turner to discuss Biden considering dropping out of the presidential race, Tom Fitton saying Biden might resign as soon as next week, Kamala Harr...is becoming the front runner for the Democratic nominee for President, and the AG of Missouri filing a lawsuit against NY for election interference. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Kellen @KellenPDL (everywhere) Guest: Daniel Turner @DanielTurnerPTF (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:06 hearing rumors. And this one's it's rumors for now. We're actually hearing Biden might resign outright from the presidency. That seems a bit more bold. However, Biden is reportedly denying everything, giving a statement saying outright, no one is pushing me out. I am not going anywhere and I'm going to to to win this race. I don't know if he's going to win it, but, uh, the White House is officially denying the story. So this is the big news. The other big news is everyone's already on vacation. So I hope you guys are, are, uh, you know, wherever you need to be for the 4th of July. So you can have those burgers, hot dogs, and, uh, you know, floaties in the lake or the pool, whatever it is you guys, uh, guys are doing for the 4th of July.
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Starting point is 00:02:28 our Discord server. You'll get to join in for our members-only uncensored shows where you can call in. So you definitely want to sign up now. We're back next week. We're off tomorrow and Friday, and there is no uncensored show tonight because we actually have to run out the door. We're going to travel to see family. But we do have this show for you tonight, so you don't want to miss it. Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with all of your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Daniel Turner. It's awesome to be here, and especially the day before 4th of July, which I love. Daniel Turner, Power of the Future, oil, gas, coal, fossil fuel issues, and also a shepherd, sheep farmer of Virginia's preeminent sheep farm,
Starting point is 00:03:06 and great to be here with you all. Thank you. Right on. I was just thinking, I'm glad I never called you Daniel Shepard. He's actually a shepherd, isn't he? You have sheep, you shepherd them around. That's wild, dude. I do. You're like the only shepherd I know. I think you have to start with shepherd, because that way it's like Captain Daniel, it'll be Shepard Daniel. Did you introduce yourself? I'm Ian Crossley. If you don't know, you know me now. Hi, everyone. Yeah, I'm glad we're all here. I'm so excited for Independence Day. It's one of my favorite holidays.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I'm Hannah Clare Brimel. I'm a writer for SCNR.com at Skinner News. Follow them at TimCastNews on the internet. Kelton's with us. Yeah, what's up, Hannah Clare? I'm filling in for Serge today, and he'll be back next week. Let's get started, guys. Have you guys changed your profile photos to American flags yet? I'm wearing one. I know.
Starting point is 00:03:46 What about your profile picture on social media? No, am I supposed to do that? It's MAGA month. I don't think I'm going to do it. On MAGA month, all the companies are supposed to change their profile pictures to American flags, remember? I'm too counterculture for that. That's what we do. Your farm has to change its profile picture. I don't change my profile picture ever for any
Starting point is 00:04:01 month, but if you want me to change it in July... You can do whatever you want. You don't like America? Interesting. I also haven't done it yet, but I'm just waiting to take the appropriate American flag picture. I have a red, white, and blue graphene picture. It's like graphene and a die,
Starting point is 00:04:19 a 20-sided die. A couple years ago, everyone was talking about Pride Month. All these companies changed their profile pictures, and I was thinking, why aren't they changing their pictures for Independence Day, like for an American flag? None of them do that. That's insane to me. So why don't we do it? It's MAGA Month.
Starting point is 00:04:32 It's Make America Great Again Month. That's what we're going to do. When it's in your heart, though, it's every day of the year. So you don't have to change your profile. You don't have to if you don't want to. But my view actually is the reason they do the pride flag thing is intentionally to attack culture and to force all the other companies to fall in line. And so you need a counterculture to say America instead. And now we've seen a lot of these companies dump those flags from their bios and their profiles.
Starting point is 00:04:58 American flags it is, but you do you. Let's jump to the news. We got this from the Post Millennial Breaking New York Times report says Biden is considering bowing out of the race. White House claims the story is false. I don't believe them. I think they have to say that because Biden's got a lot of donors who have already put up money. But I think behind the scenes, they know what the plan is. The plan is an open convention. Biden might there's rumors actually going around right now on X. Biden might resign. And these are, these are beltway people. I'll pull up the tweet in a second saying he's actually
Starting point is 00:05:28 planning to resign the presidency in a week. That seems a bit bold. So I don't know that I believe that would happen. Who said that? Tom Fitton tweeted that. We'll pull that one up next though, but for now we'll get through this. Biden reportedly told an ally that he may not be able to salvage his campaign if he is unable to convince the public in the coming days that he is still able to do the job. The ally stressed that Biden is still in the fight for reelection, but understands that his next few appearances will be critical. One of those interviews will take place with George Stephanopoulos of ABC News on Friday, and it's going to be an edited interview, probably. Yeah, it's not live. They've already
Starting point is 00:06:02 said. Yep. Heav heavily edited and the keep an eye on the clock behind joe biden's head it's going to be bouncing around like crazy you know will it be between 10 and 4 in that time frame was it'll be 10 in the morning to 4 p.m watch the sun coming in through the window well if it's going to be critical i guarantee he's not rolling a 20 he's going to roll a one the white house has said you know no everything's fine he's running and that they're they're planning to bring him out in front of people more and i I almost wonder, like, I don't think you understand what the problem is, but it's almost impossible, right? Because if he if he stays in the shadows and doesn't talk to anybody, then we all kind of know what's going on. And if he's in front of people,
Starting point is 00:06:33 they run the risks of of gaffe after gaffe after gaffe. I was listening to this interview with I think his name's Jim Zogby. He was he's involved with the DNC. He's been there for 30 years. And he was presenting like a path forward for a Joe Biden-less election. And one of the things he said was like, from now on out, the whole media is just going to point out every single time he stumbles, every time he breathes heavily, every time he walks weirdly. And it makes you want to be like, I know we've already been talking about it for like a year. This is, it's, it's, it's almost amazing how much of a shock all of this is to a lot of Democrats. Well, the White House damage control is late. I mean, they tried to do some, some saving grace right after the debate. They went to that Waffle House impromptu. Jill Biden
Starting point is 00:07:18 gave that really condescending, like you did so well. And Joe stood there on stage. But, but they needed to roll him out friday um saturday over the weekend instead they hit him again they went back to camp david um so they did the one rally in north carolina but even then it wasn't enough it's way too late it's way too late this narrative is now set in stone and they're not going to change the media narrative just because they want to they're going to try their best They're going to find something to indict Trump on. They're hoping this hurricane in the Pacific and the Atlantic hits Texas directly and it becomes a story. They need something to change their narrative, but they are incapable right now. They're grasping at straws. What do you think of this
Starting point is 00:07:58 idea, though, that it's Biden saying, oh, I think I might need to drop out? No way in hell. I don't think it's Biden at all I think Biden and also the Biden family are all you know they are prepared to to run until they absolutely cannot and they don't think it's off the table it's interesting because again going back to this interview with Jim Zogby he was saying you know well he could Biden could pass the baton and he could go out with this dignified, like ultimate, I'm hearing a couple of different Democrats
Starting point is 00:08:27 say this thing of like in service to the nation, putting aside his ambition and letting someone else like step in or whatever. And I just don't think that they have understood the characters involved in this. It doesn't seem like it. No, and if you look at electoral politics, elected officials, right and left, but particularly on the left, they don't give up power easily.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Look at someone like Ted Kennedy. Look at Robert Byrd. Look at Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Look at Dianne Feinstein. Just a couple months ago, her staff was voting on her behalf. If you are in this position for 30, 40, 50 years, you don't give it up because it's not part of your DNA. Secondly, Joe Biden's entire personality is created on the fact that he's wanted to be president. All the lies that we make fun of him on, like I got arrested for protesting
Starting point is 00:09:18 Nelson Mandela's occupation, right? I brokered peace agreements with Golda Meir back in the, all these things that people are like, what the hell? How could you lie like that? This is all to create this image that I am presidential. Even at 27 years old, I was brokering peace accords with gold of my year. That's how great I am. He has wanted to be president for forever, as most senators do. He's always wanted to be president. He finally got it. He may not be lucid and he does not know what's happening in the country, but he does know he is president and that is all he has wanted. So there is no way in hell Joe Biden is going to step down. They can 25th amendment out, right? The way they got rid of Nixon, as they said, we're going to impeach you
Starting point is 00:10:01 if you don't step aside, right? They can threaten him in that way, but he will not voluntarily step aside. It's incapable of Joe Biden because this is the only thing he has wanted his whole life. He will never step aside. Yeah, I think his ego is too intertwined with this. And when we get reports like this, I almost think it's people on staff who are saying we've been trying to tell him that he must step aside, but, you know, it's not going well or whatever. I mean, it just does not seem like a path that Joe Biden will voluntarily pick. And I don't think he cares about, you know, what is good for the party or what's good down ticket. He only cares about, you know, getting as much time in the White House as
Starting point is 00:10:40 humanly possible. But you're mentioning, you know, Nixon, is the deep state going to let him just sit there and occupy the space they're trying to take? Well, as they did with Nixon, they will go to him and say, Mr. President, if you don't resign, we're going to have to do something like the 25th Amendment, right?
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Starting point is 00:12:06 realizes, you know, my diminished capacity is great. He's not capable of doing it. That's why I do think he's going to step down. I mean, you look at what Tucker Carlson's saying. There's too many big donors. I think Reed Hastings recently was like, get out. And so the people who are funding the party are saying no more. And Biden saying, yes, I won't. I'm staying. I don't think he cares. Yeah. He's president.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I kind of wonder if we're going to get that Gavin Newsom moment where he grasps his heart. I think it's going to be Obama that runs out there and saves him. Barack. You've been. I feel like Obama's like, well, you had a good run. We'll just. Why Barack? Just for so his wife can become president.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Well, then Michelle would do it. Well, it would be Barack because he's the male hero archetype everyone loves and then he'll bring the Obama name back into the spotlight and then Michelle will step out. No, what's going to happen is Joe's going to grasp his chest and go on stage and fall over and Michelle's going to run out, rip off
Starting point is 00:13:01 her high heels, full sprint and lift him up with one arm and carry him to safety. And feminist crowds everywhere. Go wild. So power. I kind of agree with you guys, both of you, actually. I don't think he'll step aside. I think he'll be pushed aside.
Starting point is 00:13:16 And it's a little bit semantic at that point. But I think he's going to be incited to get out of the way. You know, I got an idea. Democrats, hear me out. Maybe we accuse Joe Biden of working for Vladimir Putin. That's potentially a way to get rid of him, and then you can
Starting point is 00:13:33 impeach him over what he did in Ukraine. I mean, how about the LNG pause that has made Vladimir Putin incredibly rich and he used all that money to start a war to fund his army and make further encursions into into ukraine lng liquid natural gas liquid natural gas yeah i mean there's a lot of things that biden has done that has made putin rich and that has made iran rich and both of those countries when
Starting point is 00:13:55 they have a lot of money now we're in the energy space what do they do when they have a lot of money they build schools for girls look look no they don't they go to war they have the right i just gotta say i just gotta say we we must protect Biden with every ounce of strength we have. He is sharp as he's ever been. He is witty. He is there. And he won the primary.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Democrats, you know, they're conspiracy theorists with those cheap fakes. I watched the debate and I saw a man who was with it. And he's our commander in chief. That's true. So we've got to stand by him. I say Biden for the Democratic Party. Amen. We saw a very authentic Biden at the debate.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And I think we should value that as a figure. I'm with Corinne Jampierre on this one. I mean, how dare anyone imply that he should step aside, that they wouldn't be in service. Exactly. I know there's a lot of fog of war over in the Ukraine eastern border there,
Starting point is 00:14:46 but have the Russians captured any of the equipment we've sent over there? Because that's traitorous. If Biden sent artillery over there, now Putin has it. I mean, that's just another feather in his cap. I mean, I wonder if you could track some of the equipment that we left in Afghanistan that has made its way up, you know, and is being used. I don't know. But going on what you said, Anna Claire, now we need those platitudes that politicians always use. Like, look, this isn't the time for partisan politics. We need to come together as a country. We need to stand with our commander in chief. And we do, we need to rally around Joe Biden and say, this is our president, right? He's my president too. And we need to support him to carry out his constitutional
Starting point is 00:15:21 duty and run for reelection. He has, He presented himself in dozens of primaries as the candidate for 2024. If the party that tells us that Trump is a threat to democracy cannot respect the democracy of their own constituents in those primaries, they didn't vote for Gavin Newsom. They wouldn't even let Bobby Kennedy Jr. on the ticket. They made him change parties. And they're still trying to get him off tickets. And this, I think, makes the most sense. One of our callers last night mentioned
Starting point is 00:15:49 this. Everything lines up. Why didn't they pull Biden months ago? Because RFK would have taken the Democratic nomination and they would have had a Bernie Sanders situation. So they needed to shut down the primaries first, then do an open convention and swap out Joe Biden. Otherwise, RFK takes it. And this was what Dean Phillips, who was running as a Democrat against Biden in the primary, this was one of his talking points was he's gone a little too far left, a little too aggressively without the consent and the input of the American people. And he's too old for the job and we need young blood. And Dean Phillips, so much so that he basically had to give up his congressional seat. He's not running for reelection. He's independently wealthy, so I don't think he's worried about his future. But Dean Phillips stood up and was like, this is
Starting point is 00:16:33 why I'm running for president. I knew these things. Where's Dean Phillips, right? How come no one on MSNBC has had Dean Phillips on their program? How come CNN hasn't said, you know what, Dean Phillips, six months ago, we dismissed you as a threat to the party. You were right. We were wrong. How come none of them have to eat crow right now? You should have him on here. This is a good time to get a Democratic senator or a congressman. I'd love to have Dean Phillips on because again, he announced his campaign and then stood by it. He was like, I am running as a Democrat, even when RFK shifted parties. Now, arguably, RFK has now shifted to his tone. He's saying, oh, I'm running to unite everybody or whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:07 But with Dean Phillips, I think you're absolutely right. Where is he? Why is nobody talking to him? And I think in part, it's because no one wants to look at Dean Phillips and say, you actually had really good points and we just made fun of you until you basically had to leave. And now we've really created an issue. I mean, even when they talk about potential names, that his name doesn't get thrown around,
Starting point is 00:17:27 even though he was willing to say something. Was willing to throw his hat in the ring. And to be fair, part of it is people launch presidential campaigns to raise their profile, you know? But Kamala Harris is deeply unpopular. So yes, she is becoming this front and center name. People are starting to say, well, yes, I would support her. The Democratic senator from South Carolina said that.
Starting point is 00:17:48 But it's not their first choice, right? If Joe Biden had said, I'm not going to run again, and she had announced she was running, I don't actually think she would necessarily win the Democratic primary on her own. No. And that's not good for the voter base.
Starting point is 00:18:03 She didn't in 2020, 2019, when she was running pre-COVID, when everyone was running for the presidency, for the Democrat ticket. She didn't even win California. She dropped out before the California primary because she was going to get crushed in her own state. One last comment on Dean Phillips. And again, we would probably disagree on everything in terms of policy and politics. He is still very much a committed Democrat and probably a fairly left Democrat. But one of the things I did like about him, which I thought showed character,
Starting point is 00:18:29 was he said at once at a rally, I went to a Trump rally on my own and I just walked around the crowd. He's like, they're really nice people. Like we have to stop demonizing them as this awful group. Like they're really great. They love the country.
Starting point is 00:18:44 They were diverse. They were friendly. And I thought, boy, oh boy, Dean Phillips, I disagree with you on a lot of stuff. But the fact that you were willing to say that because look at the way Kamala will talk about the MAGA extremists who have hijacked the court. Right. So I like Dean Phillips for that reason. Let's jump to this story. We have this tweet from Tom Fitton, and this is big. And I want to preface this with I'm going to need more confirmation than that, Tom. But Tom was willing to actually tweet this out based on what's going on in D.C. Tom, of course, is from Judicial Watch. We're big fans. President of Judicial Watch.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Fact checker expert. Look at that. And he says, I'm hearing Biden is going to resign next week. To be clear, I'm hearing Joe Biden is going to resign from the presidency. I can't believe it. Now, I'm not going to say outright it's going to happen. I say that's interesting. And that tweet alone says, I'll keep my eye on things and I will be ready if this is to be the case. But considering the top level Democrats who have come out, the obstacle of swapping out Joe Biden with Kamala Harris next in line. We've long speculated in this show the only move is for Joe Biden to be removed from the presidency in some fashion so Kamala can become temporary president or whatever you call it.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And someone had a correction for me. It would not be acting president. It would be president. Acting president is when the president is incapacitated. So Kamala becomes president, then says something like, I would be unable to launch a campaign, I'm going to do my duty, and this opens up the door to get Kamala out of the way, have an open convention, but it's going to have to happen before the convention. So it actually does make sense, not that I think it's a great probability, it sounds a little bit wild, but it makes a lot of sense that Joe Biden
Starting point is 00:20:24 would resign from the presidency or be removed within the next couple of weeks. So what are the things they have to do is they have to choose a vice president, and that requires now the consent of the Senate. So, A, who does Kamala pick as vice president? Secondly, there are seven or eight senators who are up for reelection as Democrats who are in very close races. And now if you're John Tester in Montana and they're like, oh, I need you to vote on Michelle Obama as vice president, you think, do I want to get reelected in Montana? Do I want, um, so you know, what, what are you,
Starting point is 00:20:58 what do you do when you're in that state? If you're, if you're a Tim Kaine in Virginia, if you're a Bob Casey in Pennsylvania, right? Do I vote for this new vice president who is an absolute disaster that is going to get me crushed with my constituency? Do I give up my election choices so that Kamala Harris can have her VP? That's a huge problem. I mean, it's four months. They might just pick some low-level nobody. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I mean, they could. They could. What I find really interesting, and I wish Tom Fitton would tell us, I think so highly of him, is why the immediacy, right? I mean, he could suddenly announce he's dropping out of the race and open the door for, you know, whatever they're going to do
Starting point is 00:21:36 at the convention to get Kamala or whoever, you know, I've heard Josh Shapiro's name thrown onto as the nominee. Why would he need to vacate the presidency right now? And to me, that signals that potentially this whole thing of like, no, he doesn't have a degenerative illness, his health
Starting point is 00:21:50 isn't in decline, is actually becoming too unmanageable to cover up anymore. Because why? What is the point? I mean, other than you're saying potentially boosting Kamala Harris as vice president, okay, maybe. Move her out of the way. Maybe. But then also, like, actually, it would be more chaotic and harder for them. And Kamala's the only one who can get the money from the DNC at this point for campaigning. Like, there are other issues at play. To me, the immediacy of, like, he is about to leave the presidency is actually we're going to have to admit that something is terribly wrong. Remember the reporting around the debate where the press was upset?
Starting point is 00:22:22 The White House press corps was upset they weren't allowed in the building because they were concerned a medical emergency may ensue and they wouldn't be there to cover it. And we're all like, ah. And to be fair, I mean, you got two very old men on stage. Now, also to be fair, Trump is spry. I mean, that, when Joe Biden spotted out of control and then CNN tried to cover for him when he was like, we beat Medicare.
Starting point is 00:22:44 And then they're like, thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. And then Trump's like, yeah, we beat Medicare. And then like, thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. And then Trump's like, yeah, you beat Medicare. You beat it to death. Beat it to death. His voice got real low when he said it, too. It was the lowest it got the whole thing. That's a mini version of that because you'd be in jail.
Starting point is 00:22:59 That is the quick wit of Trump. He wasn't even trying to be funny at all. That's normal. He was with the American people being like, what did you just say? But back to Biden, they dragged this out as long as they could, I think, to keep RFK out. And so perhaps now the immediacy of resigning right away is because he's held on as long as he can. And he's sitting there. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:23:20 You see that video where it looks like he's crying on stage? Jill Biden's talking and he's just got like this scrunched face like he just can't take it anymore i mean this dude's ready to just lay down and and put on i don't know the jeffersons and just you know yeah enjoy himself go for little walks in the parks in delaware and and all of this the great joy that all this brings me is knowing that this is all because of their own doing, right? They chose the debate time. Trump agreed. They chose the moderator, the location. They chose the format. Trump agreed. And I remember thinking Trump made a huge mistake. I was like, I wouldn't give in, give in to every one of Biden's demands. Absolutely. Right. You, you pushed RFK off the, uh, the primary, you changed the primary schedule. Uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:24:03 New Hampshire has been first in primaries forever. They switched it with South Carolina to help Joe Biden. Every single thing that they have done as a Democrat party was to protect Joe Biden. And now you have the gall to come to us and be like, hey, we may have a problem. Screw you guys. Look, I am glad to see you all implode. And I think if the president, if Tom Fitton is correct, if he does resign next week, I think we need some very large impeachment hearings because the vice president must be sitting with him. How many months, what did the president know? And when did you know it, Madam President? How long have you known that Joe Biden was incapacitated? And he's making decisions about Ukraine. He's making decisions about troop movements. This is months, years,
Starting point is 00:24:43 the chief of staff. A lot of people have to be brought up on trial because damn, if you can be brought up on trial for giving a speech at the Washington Monument on January 6th, then you sure as hell can be brought up on trial for covering up for an incapacitated president. Someone's calling the shots. If Biden is only president from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m., that means at 4.30, someone else is making a decision. Who the hell is that person? And are they accountable to the American people? So, you know, if Joe Biden resigns, they are going to create more problems because now I feel like they are opening up an enormous can of worms. Yeah, man. If there's a call to the president
Starting point is 00:25:19 at like four in the morning or one in the morning, who deals with that? Because I can't imagine that old guy giving a cogent response over the phone you think like his son or his wife right now sir we need to do this and he's just like all right hunter's so wired up on blow he's like i got it i got the call i got the call i got the call i got the call whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa crack is it his top like military advisors that like, we're going to do this, president. And he's like, OK. And he doesn't have any critical thought. Jill is like, Joe, we're going to.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Does Jill take the call? Yeah, Jill takes the call. Jill gets all of his emails. All decisions go through Jill. She only tells him sometimes. He's the face of the business, but she's actually running it. And when she said, Joe, you did so good. You answered every question.
Starting point is 00:26:03 You knew every question. Did you see the Babylon Bee? Every fact. Did you see the Babylon Bee tweet? It had Jill sitting in front of the Resolute desk, and Joe was in the corner with a little play school desk, and it's like the White House installs new play school toddler desks so that Joe can feel important while Jill is working. She was telling him how good he did. It felt like talking to a six-year-old.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Jill is worm tongue. Oh, yeah, whispering. Get it, get it. Tim's-year-old. Jill is worm tongue. Oh, yeah. Whispering. Get it. Get it. Tim's got the electrified. Being terrorized by a fly. Dude, they're everywhere.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Yeah. I don't know where they're coming from. They're making more themselves. Those animals, they tend to do that. But anyway, Jill is worm tongue. She's like, Biden is sickly and falling in his chair. And he's like, grr. We need Gandalf.
Starting point is 00:26:40 And she's whispering in his ear. Where's Gandalf? Is that Bob Kennedy? Bobby Kennedy Jr.? I think they made such a mistake kicking Kennedy out of the Democratic process, the Democratic Party's process. Nice work, dude. They were threatened by him, though.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I mean, that's the thing. And I have so much respect for Kennedy for coming on when we were at the Libertarian Convention and answering a lot of questions from us. I don't think I would agree with him on basically most things. But he is interesting. He has an interesting perspective. He was also articulate and he could sit for an interview like that. And there's there's no way Biden could do this. I mean, I wonder what kind of conversation, what prep they're giving to George Stephanopoulos right now or last week when they taped this interview or whatever, like has to be during a certain time.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And also you can't talk about certain things and also don't speak too quickly. And if he gets lost, just play it off. Like it seems like this is obvious that Biden needs so much care and structure around him that it's not it's not the same kind of presidency as someone who is, you know, strong and willing to go through periods of intense stress like four years in the presidency, because there's no doubt that it's hard to be the president of the United States. Like you're mentioning, you might get a call at 4 a.m.,
Starting point is 00:27:48 you've got to go this place. But the fact that Joe Biden was like, I almost fell asleep on stage because I was traveling so much. Okay, but you've got four more years of this, my dude. Like, what are we going to do? You can't even stay awake right now. Those are all really great points. Can Trump be Aragorn?
Starting point is 00:28:07 You're still stuck on this meme. Trump is Gandalf. I'm just here to fill in the time while we think about that. Because he comes in and he ousts them from power. You're right. No, thou shalt not pass. And then he sticks the scepter in the ground and the wall. Somebody carved that in the border wall.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And he died and came back as stronger than before. He is more of a white wizard than he usually is. How shall that pass? Exactly. You gotta go back. I just like Lord of the Rings. If you're the Biden administration right now,
Starting point is 00:28:38 what do you do? How do you save the situation? Because I think you're right. They're looking at this hurricane coming in and going like, please distract everyone. And also, if you are George Stephanopoulos and his team, what is that saying about your credibility that they went to you, right? You have to resuscitate the Democrat president. And we know you're going to be a team player. They didn't go to a serious interviewer. They went to the old faithful little old George and he will do his
Starting point is 00:29:03 dutiful part and make the president look good. And they'll edit in such a way because that's what George Stephanopoulos has always done. Obama went to him back in the day when he was losing in the debates against Mitt Romney, right? They always go to George when they need someone to bail them out because George is a Democrat operative. And of course he is. He was Clinton's spokesperson. Yeah. I mean, they're looking for favors. Yeah, exactly. and I think that's interesting too because we have this you know the governors were meeting with with Biden today and they had this meeting they all came out being like we're gonna we have his back and no problem and we've he's always helped us like that was Kathy Hochul he's
Starting point is 00:29:38 always helped us we're gonna help him and Wes Morris saying something similar I mean it's it's immediately fall back in line but But I think, again, George Stephanopoulos is probably not making deals with Biden himself. He's making deals with someone in the administration. What can I get out of this? I think all the governors are saying, well, we're behind the Biden administration. I don't think they actually believe in Biden. They believe they can get
Starting point is 00:29:58 something if they stay in line with the Democratic Party. I've got this feeling that they could just run Kennedy as their candidate now. No, he's anti-establishment. Is that why they won't do it? It's because they're afraid he's going to rip up their— The pharmaceutical interests will not allow RFK Jr. anywhere near the seat of power. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Like, when you listen to RFK Jr., and he talks about the sort of, I don't know, boilerplate politics stuff, you're kind of like, yeah, yeah, we get it. And then when he gets into environmental toxins, he's the whiz kid. He's right about all of it. He understands all of it. He's talking about plastics, polyphenols, BCAs or whatever, just all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And we're like, we talk about all that stuff too. He knows what he's talking about. Yeah, there's big industry that are going to be like, you will be very disruptive to the, I don't know, forced medications
Starting point is 00:30:41 and things that we want to have the American people do. So that's just never going to happen. I believe this whole plan, like I think they would have swapped out Biden back in March because that was the rumor. But RFK Jr. was intent on running and they were like, crap, if we do this, he runs, he wins. Do you think they'd rather have Trump than RFK because of the big business interests?
Starting point is 00:31:02 They're like, at least Trump's down with the vaccines and whatever. They being the Democrats? Who's that? It's tough to say who is they, but the people that are running the Democrats. Simple answer. Yes. RFK is way too anti-establishment. Trump, at the very least, is willing to cut deals and bring on people like, you know, John Bolton.
Starting point is 00:31:20 So I firmly believe a Trump presidency, he's going to hire a bunch of dumb people like the idea that he won't. And a lot of people are concerned about it. That's why it's important. We keep the pressure up and make sure he brings in good people. Vivek would be fantastic. Any kind of advice from Vivek is going to be absolutely fantastic. That dude knows his stuff. But Trump is probably going to hire a handful of people we're upset about. We're going to get, in my opinion, a marginally good second term from Trump. The economy will improve. Border security will improve. Immigration will improve. Trump will not be the dictator of leftist delusion that the right hopes for and the left fears. It's just not going to happen. He's going to be slightly net positive across the board.
Starting point is 00:31:59 But you look at Trump's first term and the things that we can say are good. Foreign policy was I give it a C minus. It's like a lot the things that we can say are good. Foreign policy was, I give it a C minus. It was like a lot, but that's really good. It's a passing grade. I've not seen any other president get anywhere close to a passing grade, but it's like not all good. It's commando raids. There's, there's a drone strikes. There's missile strikes are bad things, but I thought it was a net positive. And so we're going to complain about a lot of the stuff and we should, and we're going to like a lot of the stuff. And I think we'll get a generally slight net positive for the first time or second time in my life because his first term was the first time
Starting point is 00:32:26 and then democrats are going to scream and act like it's the apocalypse when it's not some of them yeah and then i can see like a conciliatory media move with trump too with like anderson cooper being like you know we talked a lot of crap about you like having him on the show and be like but you did do a lot of good and then like actually pointing so i could see it if they oh you have a good heart like this is the least worst option. This is the least worst option. All right, guys, guys, let's do this. I want to ask you a quick question.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Oh boy. Before anyone answers, I pose this to those that are listening to comment below. Who do you think the current Democrat front runner is? And I'll give you one 1,000, two 1,000, three 1,000. And it's Kamala Harris. The front runner for the Democratic nomination.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Unpredicted is Kamala Harris, not Joe Biden, the sitting president. But it makes sense. Joe Biden has called her the president, I think, five times. He has. He's repeatedly called her the president. And maybe it's because that's what they're planning for. But right now, the prediction markets believe Kamala Harris will be the Democratic nominee. And they always called it the Biden-Harris administration from day one. They made a very salient point about that. It was never the Obama-Biden administration. It was never the Trump.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Yeah, exactly. Who? Who was George Bush's GP? I thought you were doing a bet. Oh, no, no, no. Totally forgot. Trump-Pence. But it was always Biden-Harris.
Starting point is 00:33:48 They made a very deliberate effort to say Biden-Harris administration for that reason. I think you're right. I think they tried to always keep her as much. It was weird. They tried to keep her in the spotlight and also off to the side. You know, she's the one out on the campaign trail, but not the campaign trail on this national abortion tour. They were sort of like, yeah, we'll make it up as we go along. Yeah, go to a clinic.
Starting point is 00:34:09 We'll see what happens. Can we start referring to Gavin Newsom as Count Chocula? Because that was one of our viewers who super chatted that, and he really does remind me of Count Chocula. Yeah, yeah. He needs to get a tan, though. Is it just because he reminds people of a vampire? He is vampire-esque.
Starting point is 00:34:24 He's got super big white teeth. He's going to get the 23-year-old female vote over that. He looked thinner and more gaunt than before at the debate. Did you guys notice that at all compared to three or four years ago? Biden? No, no. Newsom. Newsom.
Starting point is 00:34:38 He's kind of thin and a little more gaunt, kind of more skeletal than he was before. Is he transferring his life force into Biden to keep him going? Ruining a state burns a lot of calories. So he's got, you know, he's probably losing a lot of weight. I mean, I think part of this is Kamala Harris is, yes, maybe the front runner. She's the name that has emerged. But it's like when you don't go grocery shopping and you have to just kind of make a meal out of what is left over. I mean, she's not the person you're racing out the door to vote for. And that's bad for the base. I also think that there is no way Kamala Harris handles the Israel-Palestine thing better than Biden.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And this is another internal division in the Democratic Party where she's just not going to be able to capture the vote that they need. So I think, yes, maybe she is emerging as like the alternative, but it's not because she has earned it on her own merit. It's not because people feel inspired by her. It's because she's there when apparently everything else is falling apart. I was looking for a good metaphor. I like the leftover groceries metaphor. That's all you got in the house.
Starting point is 00:35:37 You got to boil some carrots. You just have to deal with it at that point. That was my question is it's the Biden-Harris campaign. So everything Biden did with Israel, with the economy, how does that not reflect poorly on Kamala? You know, so I mean, maybe they don't care about that. Maybe it's just anybody but Joe right now. But if you're the Gen Z Democrats right now, I don't know. I mean, they're not irrational people. But how do you rationally vote for Kamala? She was right there, a part of it all. And the reason why Biden was brought on to the Obama administration, the Biden ticket back in 2008, was that there was a hesitancy of the party establishment that there are still a lot of old
Starting point is 00:36:16 white guys who are Democrats who don't want to elect a black president. But they like Joe Biden and they know him. And so you know what? Maybe that will assuage any race concerns. Didn't they already elect a black president? This was to make Biden, to make Obama. Back in 2008, to make Obama more palatable. They're going to have the same problem with Kamala
Starting point is 00:36:37 Harris. They're going to say there's a lot of old white Democrats who don't want to elect a black woman who is obsessed talking about race and gender. And Michelle Obama too. Same problem.. A lot of people have this idea like, oh, Michelle Obama, she'll win easily. And I'm like, no, I think I think she'll be a better contender than Biden. She'd probably pull slightly higher and has a good chance of beating Trump. But Democrats are racist. And I'm not saying it to be cute. That Yale study about how white people talk down to black people. There's going to be a lot of white older Democrats who are going to be like, well, I mean, I'm all for diversity, but I'll make an excuse for it.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Well, Biden himself. Right. I mean, I believe in my heart that white black kids are just as smart as what was the line he said? Poor kids are just as smart as white kids. What he said, black kids are smart as no, no. He said poor kids. What did he say? Black kids are just as smart as... No, no, he said poor kids. What does he say? What's the quote? Let's pull the quote up.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Something about getting on the internet, too. Rich kids are just as smart as black kids or something like that. Poor kids are just as bright as white kids. Yeah, there you go. You're right. They do have an entrenched racism in their party. And they're going to have a huge problem with Kamala Harris, who is obsessed with race and gender issues. That's all she talks about.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Here's the fascinating thing. Republicans don't get this because they're overwhelmingly not racist. So when they hear Michelle Obama, they go, uh-oh, she's charismatic and she can give Trump a run for his money. I'm like, guys, calm down. Democrats are racist. They don't see the world the way you do. Republicans are looking at Michelle Obama as a charismatic celebrity personality who can win. But I assure you, a bunch of these young Berkeley Democrats are going to be like, oh, that's so nice, but she won't know where the DMV is.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah, exactly. And again, go back to Kamala Harris running for the primary in 2019 before COVID changed the world, right? When it was this time, summer of 2019, she was at the Iowa State Fair and then she would be asked, are we going to have to regulate cheeseburgers because of climate change? And she'd laugh and she'd say, we should have a conversation on that, right? Whenever Kamala Harris doesn't want to answer a question, she says, you know, we should have a conversation on that. Her polling numbers were so bad that she had to drop out before the California primary because she was going to get destroyed. She had literally no delegates after months of campaigning.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Why do they think that she suddenly has national appeal? Yes, she is the sitting vice president. I'll acknowledge it. But this idea that suddenly if she becomes the top of the ticket, Democrats are going to rally around Kamala Harris. They didn't rally around her last time. Eric Yang and Pete Buttigieg did better than Kamala Harris, right? So, I mean, if they really want to save the ticket. Andrew Yang. Andrew Yang? Is that who you meant? Who's Eric Yang?
Starting point is 00:39:15 I don't know. Andrew Yang. Andrew Yang. If they really want to save the ticket, I got to tell you, they should put Bernie Sanders there. They should. I think one of the issues is that if there's a power vacuum, yes, we on the outside all know Kamala Harris's name and she seems hypothetically like the heir apparent because she's vice president. But internally, you know, there has to be like you're mentioning Pete Buttigieg or any other top ranking Democrat that's like, no, I should be president. You know, any governor that has, you know, enough delegates to really have influence at the DNC, which is not that far away, must be thinking to themselves, I have to say I'm with Biden. But if Biden's not there,
Starting point is 00:39:55 I should get a shot at this. I don't want it to be Kamala. I work hard and I deserve this and et cetera, et cetera. I mean, why would they go along with some sort of vague overarching plan from the DNC, so to speak, when really this is an opportunity for anyone to step in and say, I'm the leadership now. The superdelegates, because they have no chance in getting the nominee unless they're selected. But there's only like 75 of them. Superdelegates? Yeah. It's a small group that's going to select the next candidate. So no matter how ambitious someone is, it's only Obama's like the last ambitious Democrat. But the thing is, there aren the last ambitious Democrat. I agree with you. Maybe there are some superdelegates that could influence it, but the governors themselves come with delegates. So if you're
Starting point is 00:40:31 from a state that has a lot of delegates, I mean, you could theoretically have an influence enough to maybe sway a superdelegate or enough of them to support you. I mean, that's the thing about having an open DNC right now, which is like you get to see you get to really expose uh the the influence that the that the dnc have over its members and i actually think it's not as strict and structured as we think it is i think there would be a lot more infighting and in some ways i think it would be a more interesting convention probably than even the rnc because you would get to see all of these people vie for as much influence as they can rally in basically what, six weeks? Yeah, it's just funny that the number one criteria
Starting point is 00:41:09 in selecting your vice president is that this person should be able to fill in for me in case I can no longer do the job. The one criteria Kamala Harris has to meet, she has not met, right? They selected her because of myriad reasons, but they did not select her because she could step in as president.
Starting point is 00:41:27 And that's the problem they're having now. And how many news stories have there been about the enormous resignations at her staff? Oh, I don't know. Have there been? Oh, she can't keep staff to save her life because she's, rumor has it, a horrible person to be around and to work with.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Her chiefs of staffs have resigned. Her comms teams have resigned. Who wants to? And you mentioned people like Pete Buttigieg or Gina Raimundo or all these cabinet secretaries. They're not going to take orders from Kamala Harris. They probably dislike her. So I just think it's funny in this world of diversity and equity and inclusion and all of that. The only criteria that mattered for VP is the one that she does not meet. She checks all the other boxes, right? But she is not capable of doing the job. Proof of that is the fact that they want not meet. She checks all the other boxes, right? But she is not capable of
Starting point is 00:42:05 doing the job. Proof of that is the fact that they want to get rid of Biden and they don't know who to give the job to. And that they made her the border czar. The second they made her the border czar, I was like, okay, so you hate this person. You guys don't want her to thrive. And at the time, I thought of it as Biden viewing Harris as maybe a potential threat, right? They want her to have something very difficult. Should she, you know, at the time he was sort of pretending like he was going to be a one-term president. And when they made it to the borders, I felt like it was giving her something difficult to have to explain when she inevitably runs for president, right? Because, you know, the border is a very partisan issue and she is bad at it. So she could never win. She can never win Republicans.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And also if you do anything to try to control illegal immigration, especially more extreme members of your own party will be like, you're terrible racist. How could you do this? And this is, that's what Biden did also too. I'm sorry. That's what Obama did to Biden.
Starting point is 00:42:59 He didn't want to deal with Biden. It was like, go, go cure cancer. Right. That was, I'm going to put Joe Biden in charge of, of solving the cancer problem with Biden. He was like, go cure cancer, right? Go away. That was something I'm going to put Joe Biden in charge of solving the cancer problem. Because even Obama was like, I don't want to deal with this moron.
Starting point is 00:43:10 So they gave Kamala a job like that. You go take care of the border. Let us do our job. Right. You go take care of the border, which is impossible for you to do for a number of reasons. We're not going to give you any support. Also, if you make any restrictions restrictions you'll isolate your own base also if you don't deal with it crime will go out of control and you're at the fault of you know you are culpable for a lot of issues we have in america also now leave again go talk
Starting point is 00:43:33 about abortion get out of here like talk about anything it's just they have her around but they don't want her there no and she talks about anything and she just this is nails on the chalkboard i know you know she's And she's so distracting, like Tim trying to kill flies. Tim's slaughtering it. He's chasing this one down right now. Oh, nice. Did you get it? He's about to get it, though. This is the new Olympic sport. You gotta keep in mind, we're about
Starting point is 00:43:55 to select our military commander, so Kamala's obviously not the person for it. Who would be capable of commanding the military? And it's gigantic, too. Were we being invaded? Got it. Who would be capable of commanding the military? And it's gigantic too. Are we being invaded? Got it. Maybe it's not.
Starting point is 00:44:11 That one didn't die either. That was creepy. We're adding a new level to IRL. Not only do we have to respond to topical news things, but we also have to avoid getting hit by flies and or an electrified fly swatter. Maybe it's not organic. Maybe it's a little drone. We're literally being bugged.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Like the people who don't believe in birds. Have you seen all that? Can you hear that? Yeah. Did it break? I don't care for that at all. No, it's a taser. The people who don't believe in birds.
Starting point is 00:44:35 The taser flies up in here. Happy July 4th, everybody. Here it is. It's coming around. It's coming around. He's a little slower than the other one. He's fabulous because you've been swatting. I hope everybody who's listening to this audio only is having the time of their lives right now.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Exactly. Exactly. I feel like the holidays here. This is as chaotic as trying to find the new president of the United States. This is what the DNC meetings are like right now. Biden's like up on a chair with a racket. As the governors. He's squeezing a flying chair and falls down. chair with the racket as the governors as the governors are all gathered in the oval office
Starting point is 00:45:07 and joe is there with a tennis racket chasing running around the room there's a fly in here yes mr president there's there's a fly in here daniel if you're running joe biden's campaign right now how do you handle the next couple days because typically july 4th it it is the with independence day there's all kind of celebrations that the president has to attend, right? Do you keep him public or do you try and hide him? No, I think you make him visibly public. You don't let him speak to people. I would do the big White House event tomorrow that they always have, the barbecue that is for friends and family and senators and their family. I would do that. I would do everything public possible with as little speaking as necessary. And I would start calling. If I'm the campaign manager,
Starting point is 00:45:51 I am calling Democrat power brokers and I tell them to get in line or prepare to deal with the consequences. What do you mean? Oh, I think I know what you mean. Get in line. Get in line. This is the president. And if I hear another rumor that you are tipping off a newspaper or that or the 25 members of Congress who have hinted that they're going to write a letter to already did call for Biden to resign. Supposedly there are 25 more who are going to. Wow. That's it. Your campaign is done. Right. We're pulling all the triple C money from your campaign where that's how you start dealing with this. I hope there's a wide shot of Tim right now, by the way. I'm trying to get him on the cam.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Slaughtering this fly. He got stuck inside it. I thought he, yeah. There is a room cam. He landed on the actual thing and bounced off. It kept going. Does it not work? It's an agile animal.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I gotta get him. Yeah. It's hard to get him. I think I got him. Nice. Don't He's hard. It's hard to get him. I think I got him. Nice. Don't break the sign. I'm trapped behind a... Yeah, he's hiding.
Starting point is 00:46:51 He can run, but he can't hide forever. I'll be able to... Jeez. Oh, he's out. He's out. He's to your right. He's to the other curtain now.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Yeah. Got him. Oh, beautiful. You have to come back like George I was tip cast gain 10 experience for that dude
Starting point is 00:47:09 no you're too high level to have gained any experience for that attack whoa yeah he looked huge he looked like he was this big when I tased him
Starting point is 00:47:17 sparks were like shooting around his body like lightning his difficulty was only gray though dude it's 4th of July hold Joe Biden's schedule 14 minutes
Starting point is 00:47:24 who's number 3 hold Joe Biden's schedule for a minute. It's been 14 minutes? Who's number three? I just hold Joe Biden's schedule for a minute. So he is doing the event tomorrow. He's going to have a barbecue with active duty military service members and their families and then do whatever on the 4th of July. And then he's going to Wilmington, Delaware this weekend, which he spends most weekends in Delaware.
Starting point is 00:47:41 But it is interesting because I feel like going back to his home, it's going to be this moment where either his family is like, you got to keep going. Or if Tom Fenton is right and there is some sort of conversation, maybe it will happen there that he is like, we got to stop. And the joys of going to your own home is that you don't have to keep visitors logs. So who he meets with and the calls he has don't have to be logged. The bigger problem that if I am Biden's team right now is that he's supposed to go to nato next week um and that's so tired that's gonna be bad where are they meeting right um where is the next nato meeting it's by it's back in europe and i don't know if it's at the if it's at the headquarters but um but he's got to be back
Starting point is 00:48:22 on stage with these world leaders, and they are watching the news. Oh, no, it's in D.C. Oh, it's here locally. Yeah, July 9th to 11th, so that's good. So at least he can sleep in his own bed, but still he's got to be on stage with world leaders who are asking serious questions and having deep conversations, and he's got to try to stay awake.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Let's pull this clip talking about serious conversations. This is great. You guys are going to love listening to this right now i'm going to play it for you here you go this is the press briefing he's absolutely running yeah um well he's saying that and i'm sharing i'm sharing with you his his view and we would invite the president to come here and tell noted directly noted noted kelly um but he's awake um that's inappropriate as you heard so she says we'd invite him to come here. And another reporter goes, if he's awake, yo, they have turned on the Biden administration and her.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah. Nasty girl. Pierre is the worst presbytery I've ever seen. She's just such a mean. I was like that reporter is making me laugh because she is like, we would like to hear directly biden and then she hears the the if he's awake there's a pause she's like that's inappropriate see corinne i'm nice i'm on your side do me a favor i mean i feel like that's a lot of this right now please yeah because even these mainstream outlets like we're seeing a lot of reports from new york times that are saying like you know these conversations going on with biden and and whatever uh it will look really, really, really bad for any mainstream
Starting point is 00:49:45 media outlet that wants to pretend like they have any semblance of credibility if they continue to be like, and everything is fine. They have no semblance of credibility, though. That's it. I mean, I think of all we saw of Russiagate and the hoax that that was, all we dealt with with COVID and what happened there. This is like the third huge moment that the media is on trial. And at this point, the media has no credibility left because Carl Bernstein, right? From Carl Bernstein
Starting point is 00:50:11 fame saying that, you know, I've known at least 15 or 20 episodes, the president. Well, how come there was no deep throat on that, Carl? How come there was no racing to full page articles of the Washington Post on that, Carl? Because they all felt the need to protect the president. So they protect Fauci. They protect. So so media has the lowest favorability rating they've had in history. And at this point, the media should just be unplugged. They are genuinely the enemy of the American people. CNN, though, I've got a little bit of hope at CNN right now. The way they handled the debate was pretty unbiased. And the way they're letting Anderson Cooper and Jake Tapper speak the truth about what they're perceiving with Biden is kind of impressive. And if they can keep this up, I would be very, very happy. Do you think that that's them being unbiased or do you think it's them realizing that they cannot continue to lie for this administration?
Starting point is 00:51:02 That's a great point. And I think it's more the latter. It's tough to tell. You I think it's more the latter. You know, we all want to have a redemption art for all kinds of institutions in America. We'd love for us to be a society that lives peacefully and trust, you know, that we're all working together for harmony. But ultimately, I think if the news media is turning on Biden, the Biden administration, it's because they do not believe that they can continue lying for them. I think that they are continue lying for them. Maybe they,
Starting point is 00:51:29 I think that they are on a crusade to improve their credibility because CNN is floundering and tanking. And I was a Zucker, Jeff Zucker. Yeah. He's gone. Yeah. And he was like the guy that kind of made it entertainment. Like WWE.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Zucker? No, Zucker is the Zucker was before. And Lick is gone too. Right. Lick is gone. So I was like, I don't even know who they got some new person.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And maybe they're like, you know what? We're making this legit. I'm tired of this. I'm tired of making this WWE. No, they got a clean house. If they clean house, I say, okay, if you get rid of Kaitlyn Collins, Jake Tapper, and Dana Bash, and who else do they have left? Just get rid of them all. All gone.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Anderson, Cooper. Anderson, gone. Gone. Gone. You get rid of all those people, I'll watch CNN. But to your point. And apologize. To your point, if this is the third time the media has been on trial, I feel like the first
Starting point is 00:52:07 two, like with Russiagate and everything like that, that was actually conservative starting to be like, oh, things are going on. This seems to be the first one that Democrats and independents are like, oh, wait, you told us everything was fine. And it seems as though it is not fine. We don't know if we believe you anymore. They didn't just say it was fine. Two weeks ago, they were calling these deep fakes.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Cheap fakes. Cheap fakes. Cheap fakes. Two weeks ago, they were saying a vast right-wing conspiracy, right-wing propaganda. Two weeks ago, they were saying that. Now they're like, wow, yeah, we've known for quite some time. Right. How do you have any credibility? Did you see Corrine Jumper yesterday said, well, I didn't say cheap fakes.
Starting point is 00:52:40 The media came up with that. I just repeated what the media said. They were the ones quoting up with that. I just repeated what the media said. They were the ones quoting her saying that. I mean, it's just it's so much deception that I think even the White House can't keep up with it at this point. And it's to the detriment of the American people. Like we were talking about before the show. It's all Biden. Biden is dominating the news cycle. Now, in part, you know, everyone's taking off for vacation, including people in the media who'd be writing stories. But also there there is stuff going on. It's just no one can take their eyes off this car crash right now. And in some ways that leaves a lot of the American
Starting point is 00:53:09 people uninformed about what's going on in their communities. I mean, you know, if it's Maryland school district saying, we don't want this AP African-American course or, you know, which state, I can't even remember off the top of my head, introducing, was it Louisiana introducing, you have to include biblical teachings in curriculum now? You have to have the Ten Commandments in the classrooms. There's been a couple of different ones this week. And it's just like, but everything going on with Biden is such a main stage disaster.
Starting point is 00:53:37 That stuff isn't getting attention. You know, I mean, that's actually the news media failing the American people. And this is not what our founders intended, right? And that's the biggest problem. Maybe the day before the 4th of July, they hated the idea of a big central government. They hated the idea of an all-powerful administrator state. I mean, we are United States. We are not a federal government of Washington, D.C. of America. And so the only reason, the only way I think of ending this for good. And you mentioned Vivek before. And I hope he is actually chief of staff would be my ideal position for him because it is really an administrative one. And it's and it's a it's a visionary one. And great chiefs of staff have done very impactful things for good or for ill. That would be my hope for Vivek. But he's the one who talks the most about this, is the dismantling of this. The reason why every election is the most important election of our time is because we have $6, $7 trillion in spending that is all going to crap projects.
Starting point is 00:54:35 That's all going to bribe governors right now. What do you think they talked about with the Democrat governors? Money, money, money, money, money. Everything is in D.C., all the money, all the power. And those governors came out and said, we got Joe's back because he's got ours. And what they really meant was he promised them funding, so everything's fine. And it's not at all what our founders intended when they had this vision of this country. They envisioned powerful—your governor should be the most powerful person, if you want to look at it in that sense,
Starting point is 00:55:00 because you have a lot more say in who your governor is than you do in who the president does. And your mayor should be the second most important one and that's where all the power should should be concentrated because it's your community and your people and people who are your neighbors instead everything is concentrated and you can't even choose a damn textbook without washington dc but you can't build a bridge we're stuck with the bridge in baltimore because of dc how do we hit the stage that the governor of Maryland is like, I can't build the bridge until D.C. makes it. Build your own damn bridge. Everything is in D.C.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Everything is in D.C. And boy, our founders have to be very disappointed that that's what we've become because now Joe Biden is a little George III. He has decided you shall not sell liquid natural gas anymore. I have deemed it so. This whole argument of him being apoplectic about the Supreme Court ruling on immunity, I don't believe a president is all powerful. BS, you don't.
Starting point is 00:55:56 You have passed some rules or enacted legislation. I don't think you should be able to sell this anymore. I want to shut down those coal mines. Who the hell are you to shut down a coal mine? I'm the president. Our founders would be rolling in their graves if they saw how powerful the federal government has become. It's failing. It's got to be destroyed.
Starting point is 00:56:15 The Baltimore Bridge collapse is a perfect spectacle for Biden to be like, look, build back better. Here's how we're going to get it done. That's not happening. No. The states aren't doing it. Biden's not doing it. It's a failure on all fronts they still don't know how like that even happened how the the cargo ship just ran into one of the support piers you know it's tragic and if you ask
Starting point is 00:56:34 anyone from maryland like i grew up around here they can tell you how just impactful that's been for traffic yeah like it's you can't go anywhere anymore without sitting in traffic now in baltimore and that's one of the biggest ports in this country it's it's a tragedy and it's you can't go anywhere anymore without sitting in traffic now in Baltimore. And that's one of the biggest ports in this country. It's a tragedy. And it's crazy because it's like it was like a gift. Like here, show us your vision. You know, he wanted to be FDR. We'll do it now.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Yeah. And it's probably will take 10 years if they're lucky to build the bridge back. It's never coming back. If they even build it back. The incompetence and the managerial degradation that we're seeing in this country. Yeah, it's never coming back if they even if they even build it back the incompetence and the the managerial degradation that we're seeing in this country yeah it's not coming back i mean like 30 years if trump comes in and gives us marginal victories then we're on the path towards restoration in that regard but i don't see that thing coming back anytime soon no and that's a
Starting point is 00:57:20 great example of just the the crumbling overall nature of of of the country um and and that's a great example of just the crumbling overall nature of the country. And it's all because everything is concentrated in this one city, and we have to get 55 senators to vote on a bridge in Maryland. Holy crap, what the hell do I, if I'm the senator of, maybe if I'm Virginia, right, or maybe if I'm a local state, but if I'm the senator of Wyoming and you're like, wait, I have to go to the floor to vote on funding for a bridge in Maryland. I care about Wyoming. I tweet all the time at Senator Cain, who's up for reelection on my great state of Virginia. When do you ever talk about Virginia? You talk about Ukraine and you talk about Israel and you talk about you're a senator of the world. Just talk about Virginia
Starting point is 00:57:57 just once. Yeah. Like if you should go to D.C. with this vision, why does this help the people of Virginia? And if you can't make me the case why it helps people of Virginia, then what the hell am I doing here? We're going to have a hearing on whether or not apples in Wisconsin can be imported to South Korea. What the hell am I at this hearing for? But this is all the stuff they occupy themselves on all day, all day. The whole trans movement, we have to have a hearing on girls and sports.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Very important issue. But it could be handled at the state level. Why is it in D.C.? Everything is D. on girls and sports. Very important issue. Why is this... Why is it in D.C.? Everything is D.C. Everything is in D.C. I mean, in part, it's because federal money runs throughout so much. Disaster. Right? Anything that accepts federal money is beholden to Washington, D.C., and unfortunately, a ton of our institutions ultimately
Starting point is 00:58:38 accept federal money. And, you know, I don't think people realize how far-reaching that is. And that's almost to the detriment of the American people because anytime you, you know, the federal government doesn't give money without strings. And we're ultimately all giving up some kind of autonomy when you accept that the federal government is going to come in and tell you what to do. But I think you're right, especially with the trans sports issue. You know, there was a huge movement with the Safe Women's Sports Act, you know, rolled out slightly differently. But independently, states were saying this is how we want to handle that. And I think that is much more in line with what the founding fathers wanted for
Starting point is 00:59:12 our country. I think that is not what especially the modern day DNC wants, wants for the American people. They want to be able to say you go to this one place, we decide and everyone has to fall in line and that's it. And to that end, I think the American people are sort of disillusioned with that, right? I don't think they look at the federal government as serving their needs. It's like, how do I avoid being in the crosshairs of what the government is trying to force us to do? How do I stay away from it as much as possible? Let's jump to the story. We got the the attorney general, Andrew Bailey, filing a lawsuit against New York for hijacking the presidential election by illegally
Starting point is 00:59:51 scheming to jail their presidential opponent, President Trump. New York is waging a war on American democracy and Missouri will not let it stand. Bravo. Good, sir. He says New York's illicit prosecution, gag order and sentencing of President Trump has undermined his ability to campaign. This overt meddling in a presidential election sabotages Missourians ability to cast a well-informed vote mere months before the election. I am asking the Supreme Court to declare that New York's actions unlawfully interfere the presidential election to remove any gag orders against President Trump and to halt the impeding sentencing until after the presidential election. Well, that has been halted. Until September, at least. The Supreme Court must invoke its original jurisdiction under Article 3, Section 2 of the Constitution to settle the score once and for all.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Right now, Missouri has a huge problem with New York. I will not sit idly by while Soros-backed prosecutors in New York hold Missouri voters hostage in this presidential election. Bravo. Yeah. Bravo. Yeah. Bravo, Andrew. This dude's been leading the charge. He is one of the best because we complain all the time about red states not doing anything. And this guy has been doing a lot.
Starting point is 01:00:55 So bravo, sir. That's awesome. Yeah. Finally, we need more pushback like this and more, hopefully more attorneys general sign on board. I'd be curious to see which ones which ones do, because this is this is essential, right? And more, hopefully more attorneys general sign on board. I'd be curious to see which ones do. Because this is essential, right?
Starting point is 01:01:11 This is New York interfering with the federal election. They say the lawsuit comes just one month after New York obtained an illicit conviction against President Trump and alleges three specific violations. Count one, interference with the presidential election in other states. Count two, violation of Purcell, a federal case prohibiting courts from sowing voter confusion or changing election rules in the months leading up to an election. And count three, violation of the First Amendment rights of voters in other states. He asserts in the lawsuit, this lawfare is poisonous to American democracy. The American people ought to be able to participate in a presidential election free from New York's interference. Any gag order and sentence should be stayed until after the election. Bravo. Yeah, I really do think New York's interference, any gag order and sentence should be stayed until after the election.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Bravo. Yeah. I really do think New York or I don't want to blame all of New York, but I do want to say I do think the attorney general's office and and definitely the Manhattan attorney's office thinks they are in charge of the country right now. I mean, even the language. You remember when we had all of these secretaries of state's mains in particular stood out to me when they were saying, like, we're not going to let Trump on the ballot. We had all of those lawsuits over that. And they were like, you know, for the good of the nation, I am making this decision. I think it is such a strange time where these states have decided
Starting point is 01:02:20 they are going to be the parents and they have the right to dominate this conversation and restrict the rights of other voters. Yeah. Well, again, all this chaos that we're seeing, they created, they orchestrated it. This is all happening according to their master plan. All these lawsuits that Trump is involved in, they wanted them all to happen during this period. Right. 2024. They wanted it to happen before the convention to hopefully have him already sentenced. So they wanted to be able to say convicted felon before the first debate. They got that.
Starting point is 01:02:49 So all of the chaos that we're seeing right now, they created campaign folks in a room like this all gathered around the table. This is an orchestrated effort. You got it. Congrats. But now you're also eating the consequence of your pernicious actions. And all of the country is suffering as a result. That's why, you know, we're going back to the whole, if Biden resigns and Kamala steps in, I think that's opening a larger can of worms that they are not ready to deal with.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Do you think other states will sign on? I mean, and which ones? I guess the question. So this is Missouri. Missouri. Oh, this one's going to get big. Yeah. Like Texas v. Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:03:30 It was all the red states versus the blue states, basically. So this one maybe the Supreme Court has to intervene. There's no question. I mean, what New York did is absolute election interference. No question. It's challenging because it's coming out right before the holidays. I think probably there are a lot of attorney general's offices
Starting point is 01:03:47 that are not staffed right now. I mean, I wonder how many people they're having to call in to say we want to sign on to this lawsuit or whatever else. I mean, I worry that because of the timing of this. And again, I think it was, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:56 a good thing to do either way. You can't control the timing all the time. But we might lose momentum on this if going into a holiday weekend. Well, real quick, we do have a chat from Scott Good, who makes a good point. He says the AG did nothing. He filed after SCOTUS took their summer break and will not be back till October to even consider it. Yeah, fair point.
Starting point is 01:04:16 This is the thing. Like the timing does matter. I mean, hypothetically, it could prevent something like this from happening again. But I don't think that, you know, the Supreme Court's not going to make a decision in October about this case anyways. I don't think. But the Supreme Court is vacant for months. Yes. They just disappear for months at a time. So does Congress.
Starting point is 01:04:36 That's insane. I mean, they're not in high school. They're not in elementary school. You don't get summer break, guys. With Congress and stuff, they have to go back and be in their districts. Like, you can't have them in D.C. all the time. They have to spend the majority of their time in the state. The courts? What are the Supreme Court? That's a 24-7
Starting point is 01:04:49 career. You need to be there when we need you. What the hell's going on? They think the world's going to wait? I mean, but all jobs get vacation days. Sure, like take two weeks maybe and stagger it. It makes sense. I mean, the other part is I think they do. I don't know, but theoretically they could be working. They still read their cases.
Starting point is 01:05:06 They still consider stuff even if they're not literally in D.C. Yeah, and they still work during the summer because every justice is in charge of a jurisdiction. So things still have to come before them that they are allowed to decide. Just means that they are literally in court. But they're not in session in the sense that like these are the cases we're going to hear this session. That doesn't start until September. I think the AG, and i'm not an attorney so i could be mistaken i think he deliberately waited for their docket to be cleared which was july 1st to file this because now there is nothing before the court so now here's the first thing that's brought for them and they
Starting point is 01:05:37 could respond to it if they choose to yeah but they're i mean they already have some cases sort of ready ready to go on onto the like we kind of know what's coming next time, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And their clerks are still working. I mean, they don't have some room. But they could answer this if they wanted. Are they allowed to? Like before October?
Starting point is 01:05:53 Can they be like, all right, well, let's just do this now because it's more important than. I would say I am fairly certain the answer is yes. Yeah. But the answer is yes, but. I don't know. It would be great to get like a former clerk in here who can give that answer and i know a bunch if you want one um but i'm sure however this works the clerks now all talk to each other and say all right let justice x know and then they have a conference
Starting point is 01:06:15 call or so i don't know how they actually work the inner processes but um supreme clerk clerks are pretty close they hold their cards close to the vest but it would be great to have a conversation with one of them see how the actual court does operate like this. How about Bailey just bring criminal charges against Joe Biden or something? It'd be interesting, right? I mean, part of it is like, what's the venue? Where do we go from here? And I think this is one of the more disheartening things. And I'm not trying to be negative right before Independence Day. One of the challenges is, you know, the district in which you file or if you were to have to go to the appeals court or Supreme Court or whatever, there is bias on every level. And I don't think that we can assume in this day and age that judges are acting without some kind of political motivation. And that's sad, right? That that's supposed to be sort of a sacred office
Starting point is 01:07:05 and you go in really there to represent the law. And I think now a lot of people are prepared to believe that judges operate with their own personal beliefs sort of front and center, maybe not in a way that they were originally intended to. Well, there was that article, that letter that surfaced of Larry Summer, who was the Harvard president,
Starting point is 01:07:28 and he was Obama's something secretary as well. He was in the Obama administration. But when Obama was considering pointing Sonia Sotomayor, he wrote a letter saying that I would caution you against this, knowing her. Not only is she not as smart as she claims to be, but she is hyper-partisan and she gets very, very bitter and a little bit, I don't think she used the word vindictive, but he was warning like, I wouldn't put this person on the court. And so you're right. I mean, everyone has their certain biases, but even Larry Summer back in the day was warning Obama and we were a more tolerant and happy nation going back 15 years or 12 years, however long it's been. But even he was warning Obama. And we were a more tolerant and happy nation going back 15 years or 12 years, however long it's been.
Starting point is 01:08:07 But even he was warning like, yeah, this is not the best person for the courts. So yeah, the courts are becoming as partisan as everything else is, unfortunately. The courts across the board are, as we've mentioned many times, when it comes to a lawsuit, you say to your lawyer like,
Starting point is 01:08:24 hey, I've got this case. They say, OK, well, what jurisdiction are you filing? Because you file it here, you lose. You file it here, you win. The judges here are Republican. The judges here are Democrats. That'll determine it. Yeah. And the environmental lawyers do this all the time. Every environmental lawsuit is always filed in the same courts because they know the judge will be sympathetic. And so you see, again, these rulings of the North Slope of Alaska, but they filed it in San Francisco. And you say, well, that's really odd. I wonder why they filed it.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Oh, they filed it in Hawaii. That's really odd. Why? Because they know the judge is going to rule in their favor. And it shouldn't be that way, right? Like the bridge should be able to rebuild. All of these things are spinning out of control because the system is just too damn big for any one person, let alone someone who's half with us like Joe Biden, 10% with us like Joe Biden. No one person can manage this system the way, in addition to the
Starting point is 01:09:14 military and the pharmaceutical pressures. And it is way too big because it's not supposed to be this way. It's not supposed to be one big thing in DC. I wish I could start a party called like the Federalism Party, but I don't know what the hell to call it. But like the 10th Amendment Party to go back to states and the rights of states. I know now someone's going to say like, oh, so you think the Civil War was constitutional? I'm not declaring independence or any state or separation, but there is a need for states to reclaim their power and take it away from Washington, D.C., which is trampling on people's rights. And I think there is actually a renaissance of interest in individual states in America. And
Starting point is 01:09:56 sometimes I wonder if it was COVID because people couldn't travel internationally. So the road trip kind of became a thing again. And people are going from state to state or observing sort of the way different states, you know, whether it be they were going between states for personal reasons because they were moving and relocating or just to travel and kind of small countries to operate near each other and have and have a fluid relationships in a way that you know being completely governed from washington dc doesn't allow i mean i even see this in sort of appreciation for for regional events or regional music or regional slang uh if if we could appreciate the states individually as opposed to being like we're all just going to listen to dc and kind of become one one semi or pseudo homogenous operation it would be better yeah i don't know let's let's jump to this classic classic kamala harris speech from july 14th 2023 and i would like you all to
Starting point is 01:11:00 listen to what she has to say here Here you go. Because think also about the impact on not only the local economy, not only on an investment in the entrepreneurs and innovators from and in the community. Think about the impact on something like public health. When we invest in clean energy and electric vehicles and reduce population, more of our children can breathe clean air and drink clean water. Because think also of... Before anyone says anything, I want to play it one more time because I want to see what the audience says before anyone says anything. Just want to play it one more time because i want to see the i want to see what the audience says before anyone says anything just let me play it one more time energy and electric vehicles and reduced population more of our children can breathe
Starting point is 01:11:54 clean air and drink clean water there you go everybody there you go does the text actually say reduced population yes she literally said. When we invest in reduce population. More children reduce population. Our children, though, the ones who we don't kill, right? Or the ones who we do allow to be born. Or the ones we bring in from other countries. Our children will have clean air because we got rid of the bad ones. We got rid of those ones.
Starting point is 01:12:19 You know, when we have fewer children and fewer people generally, more kids can drink water. You know, why don't you have an abortion yeah have you talked to your doctor about if abortion is right for you maybe you shouldn't have kids it really does seem like democrats hate their voters yes like they're just showing up there and being like hey everybody you should all get abortions and i'm like wow that's kind of a mean thing to say to somebody i mean you should get abortions also you shouldn't have children because the environment That's very bad and selfish of you. And also, you
Starting point is 01:12:48 should not talk to your families and you should get divorced and also you should continue to fall apart. Have you perhaps considered getting an abortion and then sterilizing your children? That's another Democrat talking point. That would be a great way to reduce the population and protect the environment. It's a win-win. Exactly. It's a win-win.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Do you remember back in 2019 again during the debate when it was Julian Castro who talked about abortion for transgender men? And it was like, that's how far we've come is that we are now. We have a presidential candidate who wants to protect the rights of transgender men to get abortions. It was like, abortions for everybody. No live babies. Never again.
Starting point is 01:13:21 No live babies. But this is a classic because it's from a year ago. Yeah. And I don't know how many people brought this is a classic because it's from a year ago. Yeah. And I don't know how many people brought it up when she said it, but she said it. And the funny thing is, if we bring up on the show like, hey, Kamala Harris said that they're investing in reducing population, the media will say it's a conspiracy theory. Yeah. And they'll make up some excuse as to why, no, Kamala meant reducing population suffering,
Starting point is 01:13:41 but she misspoke. Yeah. She misread the prompter. They'll cover for her 100%. Or you just didn't give the full context, right? You didn't give the full context of her quote, and you take it out of context, and that's just what they always say. Maybe it's even a chief fake. Be a great question, Madam Vice President.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Loved your talk. Quick question. When you talk about reduced population, how would we go about doing that as a government? Crickets. I guess you could send people to war, maybe to a meat grinder. That's one way to reduce your population. You could let that. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 01:14:09 You have a game show with three doors. And behind one of the doors, it's pitch black. And when you step forward, you just fall right into that meat grinder Ian mentioned. And give everyone a ticket. That reduces population. No, in all seriousness, they're talking about discouraging people from having kids. They're talking about abortion. They're talking about finding ways to have so people do not have kids.
Starting point is 01:14:31 I do not believe, because a lot of people think there's like a grand conspiracy to literally cull the human population. When Bill Gates comes out and talks about stuff, he's telling you exactly what he thinks. He's not hiding it. He says we want to reduce population growth. We want to make population growth go way down. And that's what they're doing. That's their advocacy. They want people to not have kids.
Starting point is 01:14:51 It's very first order. They write news articles saying, don't have kids. It's like if people are making too much waste, therefore less people. That's like first order idiocy. Figure out what to do with the waste. It's a lot easier than trying to make less people. And it's a lot more fulfilling and rewarding
Starting point is 01:15:05 than making less people. Or teach people how to build rocket ships. And then we'll send people to Mars where they can colonize and we can expand human civilization into the stars.
Starting point is 01:15:14 How about that? Yeah. Shout out Elon Musk. Yeah. No, no, no dreams, no ambition, no way to solve things. Must destroy.
Starting point is 01:15:21 How about we just do like a sorry but you're going to Mars thing? You know what I mean? Speaking of, there's a tweet that keeps going around. What would you guys name the first city on Mars? Have you thought about it? Mars City. Mars City.
Starting point is 01:15:34 All one word? First city. No, Mars City. Marsylvania. I like Marsylvania. Marsylvania is a good one. I don't know. I want to call it Daikon.
Starting point is 01:15:44 D-A-I-K-O. Named after the vegetable we'll plant all over the place to fix the soil before. It's named after food. Pennsylvania is a good one. I don't know. I want to call it Daikon. D-A-I-K-O-N. Named after the vegetable we'll plant all over the place to fix the soil. It's named after food. We'll name it Elon. We'll name it after people. It's like, dude, we're going to name it after the food, after the plants. That's why we're even here to begin with.
Starting point is 01:15:57 No, Atlantis. Star City. Star City, because that's what he's naming everything. Starship, Starbase. If it's Elon, he's going to name it after his baby. It's going to be X. Xtown. It'll be built in the shape of an X.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Yeah. And it'll be like completely mismanaged in like poor city planning. It's like in order to get from one point of X to the other, you have to go to the city center and then go around. People who live in Boston and rely on that public transportation are like, this is our nightmare. To be fair, to be fair, if it was an X with a circle around it, then you could have a train that goes all the way around. And a three-dimensional X, too, where it goes through everywhere you look. It will be interesting to see which one of his kids he likes the most when he starts naming cities after them.
Starting point is 01:16:34 I mean, he's got, what, at least 12 now? X1, X2, X3, 4, 5. He just only likes that one kid. I don't know why I thought Daikon. It came to me in a dream. It just hit me. It's a vegetable? And then I looked up, what does Da me in a dream. It just hit me. It's a vegetable? And then I looked up, what does daikon even mean?
Starting point is 01:16:47 I looked it up. It's a term. How about aubergine city? Aubergine? Yes. That's what the Aussies call. And the Brits do as well, right? It's eggplant.
Starting point is 01:16:55 It's a French word for it. The thing about daikon, I started reading about it. I didn't even know what it was. Pomplemousse. It's one of the best French words. You plant daikon. I actually have pomplemousse right here. You plant daikon, and then you don't harvest it. And it dies and then fertilizes and breaks up the soil on its own.
Starting point is 01:17:09 So that's what I'm thinking. It's just all iron. That's the problem. Have you heard? It's all iron. Mars. A lot of iron dust. It's on the surface.
Starting point is 01:17:15 That's the dust on the surface. So underneath there's water. But it's not. Mars doesn't have enough gravity to sustain an atmosphere. So we have to build pod cities and live underground. Yeah, first probably for sure. doesn't have enough gravity to sustain an atmosphere. So we'd have to build pod cities and live underground. Yeah. First, probably for sure.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Have you heard about this thing going on in West Virginia where, and I think it's Appalachian Botanical Company is doing it, but they're planting lavender fields on old coal mines to help fix the soil. Because, you know, a lot of times there's sort of a base level of like how it's supposed to be left, but there are issues there,
Starting point is 01:17:45 and so they're using it to produce plants, but then they turn into products and sell to people. I find this really fascinating. No, that's awesome. Yeah. Lavender? I have not heard about that, no. This is a terrible segment,
Starting point is 01:17:55 and I will do more research on it. It's all remediation. No way this is the best segment on planet Earth. Well, I find it really interesting because it's about, hey, how a community can go back to sort of turning the land into something. I mean, I think, you know, the purpose of people being on Earth is to use, create, renew and kind of keep cycles going.
Starting point is 01:18:12 So if they're able to make a small business out of this, that's fascinating. Paul Tascalo says Marzalago. Marzalago. That's good. I sound like Marzalvania. Marzalvania. With the lavender fields, are they, it's where where there used to be caves where they were mining coal? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:28 I don't know what the qualifications for the land are, but basically West Virginia is famous for its coal mines and their coal mines that have been shut down and the companies that have left them or sold them, whatever. The soil is not in its best state. It has issues. And so they're planting lavender fields and then they're harvesting it and turning it into different things. And it's sort of this business that I think is kind of unique to West Virginia. I mean, I wonder what kinds of possibilities there are if we were to look at these things as cycles and not just like, oh, you had a coal mine there and so now we hate it, hate the state. I mean, that's why I feel like the Biden administration treats coal dependent places like they are sort of done and gone from the past. I'm wondering that's why I feel like the Biden administration treats coal dependent places
Starting point is 01:19:05 like they are sort of done and gone from the past. I'm wondering if the added like biomatter would cause these mines to collapse, you know, because that's a real risk. And especially around here on the eastern seaboard is old coal towns where you build a neighborhood on top and then sinkhole. A lot of them are closed formally in some way. That kind of concern. Do you with Power for the Future, your company, do you guys get into the mining industry at all? Oh God, yeah. I've been to a ton of coal mines and reclaimed mines and I've walked on reclaimed mine sites that you would have no idea that X number of years ago this was whether it's an open pit mine or more like you have in West Virginia where you are actually 3,000, 2,000 feet underground.
Starting point is 01:19:49 But yeah, I've seen mine sites that were reclaimed. And this is part of the responsibility of the mine is to reclaim the land. And you have no idea that that used to be a mine. And they do a brilliant job at it, but they never get any credit for it because it's just more fun to demonize and blast. I wouldn't be surprised if when you do reclaim a mine, if the soil is maybe not conducive to growing corn. I don't know. They said it's like the chemistry of it. Like you need to kind of fix the soil until the lavender is able to take out whatever heavy metal or whatever the issue is. You know, but again, you said something just earlier that I want to latch on to when we were joking about the rocket ships and all that.
Starting point is 01:20:21 And Hannah Clare, you said something like they never have any hope. Right. And I think that's what we're missing so much from our conversations. It's Kamala Harris talking about we have to reduce population. There's never talk about aspirations to go to Mars or how do we take this soil and do something with it? Or how do we turn DICON into... We've lost the idea to dream about anything positive. No, we haven't. This room hasn't, certainly, by any means. You guys are all dreamers.
Starting point is 01:20:48 But our political leaders have. Everything is so, we're going to die right now unless we vote for more. Everything is so apocalyptic and depressing. They're investigating their inner selves. That's why your personal truth and your identity is so important to you, but they're not investigating their environments. I think there's a saying about how we still don't know what's in our oceans, like the amount of unexplored territory that's beneath water.
Starting point is 01:21:15 That's why Atlantis is such a popular talking point because people don't know. But I think part of this is the obsession with self and forcing everyone to think about themselves constantly all the time is part of the intentional destruction of society, right? Like if you're – like you're saying, if you hear everything is awful and this is the end of times and democracy and whatever else, you're fearful, right? You're scared. And you're kind of looking for immediate relief. And so anyone is able to kind of offer you pseudo solutions and might be able to temporarily get you to vote for them until they can create another crisis that gets you scared again. And it's on the cycle. I'm talking about you, Democrats.
Starting point is 01:21:48 But I think it is a big difference. And I've said this about the Trump campaign a couple of times. I really do feel like when I've seen Trump speak, I'm going to be able to see him a couple different times over the years. It is much more about like, we're going to do this thing. We're going to accomplish this. And, you know, I know there are, you know, flaws to everyone. I'm not saying Trump is totally perfect or that everything in his administration will turn it around. But the messaging feels very different from every Democrat that I see run that is like, you got to be scared of that guy. You have to be fearful and they're coming for your rights.
Starting point is 01:22:13 And it's much more fear and individual focus. And when we talk about these things, like being able to say, well, why don't we build a rocket or why don't we figure out what or reclaiming a coal mine look like and what are our possibilities and what cool thing can we do with this that kind of hopefulness uh is someone who is solution oriented and believes that the world they're in is worth pursuing and investing in and i think so much of what culture has fed people right now is to say like just focus on yourself and what you can get out of this and how it benefits you and what your issues are. And don't think beyond that. And that's a very oppressive mindset to have because it doesn't allow for any creativity or imagination.
Starting point is 01:22:55 That was so, so well said. It really was. I mean, you summarize exactly what I'm thinking. You're my favorite guest today. I mean, and you nailed it. And that's where my dislike for President Biden stems for. Again, I joked earlier that I'm the oldest one in the room. And so I've been following his campaign for a very long time. Well, because I know for a fact. But I mean, Joe Biden, when he was in his lucid days, told a crowd of young black kids, Mitt Romney is going to put you all back in chains, right?
Starting point is 01:23:28 Everything was, you're going to die. People are out to get you. His pride's talk, or really Jill gave it, you know, like they're coming after you and they're going after your rights, but we're going to fight. Everything is, the whole world is out to get you. And everything is negative. Everything is fearful.
Starting point is 01:23:45 The environment's out to get you, and everything is negative. Everything is fearful. The environment's out to get you. Everyone is on the brink of death but for the government that is going to protect you. And boy, it's just such a dour and miserable message to tell people over and over again. I see it like it's a constant state of triage. Like if someone's bleeding out, you don't have time to think about the future. You've got to just fix the problem, and it's like a state of constant triage, mental triage like if someone's bleeding out you don't have time to think about the future you've got to just fix the problem and there is like a state of constant triage mental church joy reed was talking a few days ago um and she was like we as democrats we're scared we we're always afraid and i don't want to misquote exactly what she was like just blatantly saying we're terrified we she's like
Starting point is 01:24:20 bringing other people like into her cult of fear and it was just so sad to watch but they're the ones with the hammers who are around smashing everything up while climbing their scare. Right. I was going to say, they're triaging while also like cutting you somewhere else so you continue to bleed. Because if you don't need to heal, if you don't need triage, but someone that's all they know how to do, they're going to end up injuring you in order to triage you. Like it's a perpetuating cycle of obsessive. Do you know stories about like firefighters who become obsessed with like fire then they kind of get into pyromania like they start lighting fires for the glory of being
Starting point is 01:24:49 like i have saved everyone like that's the democratic party right now my dad one time said i don't know if it's like a huge thing but there it's a story i've heard before that there's occasionally people who will like create a crisis so they can come in and be the hero and save it and that's the dnc completely all the time. It's like Munchausen syndrome. My dad was a fireman and Tim's father also was a fireman. My dad, one time I was asking him about fire. He's like, you got to love it to kill it. And I was like, oh God, that's key, dude.
Starting point is 01:25:15 But he never went so far as to light the fires, but he did start to gain like a love of the danger of the enemy. Right. Obsession almost, obsessive love with the thing that he had to destroy. And I'm sure for firefighters in particular, it's like you have to respect that this is a very serious thing. It's incredibly hot. It has the ability to do whatever. And so you're sort of recognizing that it's a real threat. There's sort of a weird kind of respect there. But, you know, I don't think Democrats respect their voters when they try to intentionally keep them scared and
Starting point is 01:25:41 compliant. I don't think that that's the attitude you want. And I think as a culture, it's extremely toxic. It is cancerous to the moral spirit of the country. If you feel like every day you are not valued and everything's about to fall apart and, you know, anything you love could be taken from you, then why pursue anything great? Why pursue a better life? Because really it's all, you know, your motivation is, is not there. There's nothing to live for. Obama was great at giving people hope in the beginning. Hope and change was his campaign. Well, he said it, but did he actually give people hope? Well, he gave me just liked the warm, fuzzy. He gave me hope in 2008. I was like, okay, can we get some water? When we get some water over here, people were always fainting at his
Starting point is 01:26:23 events and he'd call out, we need some water. And when, some water over here? Remember, people were always fainting at his events, and he'd call out, He's a hero. We need some water. He's turning up the thermostat so everyone falls over. When Trump was running in 2016, one of my biggest criticisms was that I felt like he was perpetuating the fear, that he was like, things suck. Everything's bad. Everything's a problem. We've got to make it good again because it all sucks.
Starting point is 01:26:40 And he doesn't do that anymore. He's changed. I've seen him change a lot in the last seven years. Now he's talking about golf swings. Yeah, and like, at least he says his retribution is going to be making the world better. Which is way better than being like,
Starting point is 01:26:55 my retribution is going to be get the bad guy. Go destroy the evil. He's not obsessed with the danger and the destruction anymore as much as he used to be, which is great. I think social media has made it so lucrative. We've on pop culture crisis, we call it the trauma economy, right? So like, it's just so, and we've talked about sad fishing, Hannah, clear right before the show started, right?
Starting point is 01:27:14 People love the sob stories. No one wants to see the cat get saved out of the tree anymore. They just, they want to see the car crash. They want to see the house on fire. I like seeing the cat get saved out of the tree. Well, the cat can be saved out of the tree. You're like, wow, that's awesome. That guy stepped up and did something to help that cat.
Starting point is 01:27:28 I watched a video with this guy. He's like a tree climber. He cuts limbs off trees when they're dead, so he's good at climbing them. And so he has made this sort of a side hustle where he saves cats from trees. Cats got to stop climbing trees. What are they doing?
Starting point is 01:27:39 Look, cats, they can't be saved. But the thing is, ultimately, the goal of these things is to say, like, wow, there was a problem and you fixed it. That's good. Whereas I don't think that's what Biden's saying. I get what you're saying about Trump. You know, there is a level of, like, calling out the problem, being like, things are bad. It can produce anxiety. On the other hand, his whole thing was make America great again.
Starting point is 01:27:58 He was like, we can fix it. That's a very positive message to put out, being like, they're coming for everything you love. And the only thing you can do is vote for me. And by the way, I fell asleep maybe on a debate stage and couldn't keep my words together. Like, this is not, that ain't it, chief. There's a new phenomenon of videos of guys doing lawn work. Have you ever seen these landscaping? And they'll like speed it up and then they'll go in with like cut the things. I mean, talk about making things better, solving problems and making money doing it. That's my favorite thing when you walk around.
Starting point is 01:28:26 And there are a lot of towns in this area that are like this where, you know, they were maybe prosperous back in the day, falling on hard times. But people are coming in and starting to, like, fix up older homes. And you see them, like, planting flowers. And, like, I feel like there's one neighborhood I walk in where every time I walk through it, I feel like I can see just a little bit of change. Like someone is just taking pride of the house that they just bought and they're pouring into it. Like that's what you want to see. You want to be on the cusp of things getting better. And I think that, again, requires messaging hopefulness, not just like, Daniel, the world is falling apart.
Starting point is 01:28:57 I love you on that. Threat to our democracy. I mean, it's been four years of threat to our democracy, threat to our democracy, the Supreme Court. I just once would love to see a powerful Democrat in an official statement just speak with a normal tone. Right. I disagree with the Supreme Court decision. I thought it was not correct. I would side with Sonia Sotomayor. The court has spoken. Every Democrat was the court has been hijacked by the right wing extremists.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Everything is so over the top. Everything is so, it becomes exhausting after a while. I think that's a really good point because also, if you're in crisis, who are you looking towards? The person who is screaming and panicking and hyperventilating or the person who's staying calm and being like, we're going to fix this? They're messaging hysterics and then expecting you to trust them to make good decisions. What's Bernie been up saying up? Because he used to be pretty calm and straightforward. He used to, but Bernie's also 86 at this point.
Starting point is 01:29:52 I mean, 80. His iconic mittens crossed arms. I wouldn't be surprised if Bernie's hitting his end of the rope as well. I mean, these are a lot of old folks. And Biden has introduced a whole new. I mean, obviously, the president is term limited. these are a lot of old folks and and biden has introduced a whole new i mean obviously the president is term limited but but age limits cognitive tests for elected officials i mean we've talked a lot about term limits and the house and the senate i would go back to the diane
Starting point is 01:30:14 feinstein example she was not retiring she was lucid enough to know oh i'm the senator i don't know what we're voting on but i'm not stepping aside even when she made her announcement that she was going to retire do Do you remember this story? They made the announcement official from her office. The press release went out and then a reporter asked about it and she was like, I'm not retiring. I'm not retiring. Oh, they didn't tell me that. It was honestly so sad because it was like, let her retire and live her life.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Do you think anybody at this table, because I don't know, there is an heir apparent for Bernie's movement or is it too cold? Oh, yeah. Right because I don't know, there's an air apparent for Bernie's movement or is it too cold? Oh, yeah. Right. I don't know. Cenk was way too like chill for the Democratic Party. Too chill or chill? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:53 He was towing the line between, he was trying to play progressive and establishment Democrat at the same time. And I can understand trying to have some kind of unity, but it don't work. Andrew Yang. I'd like Andrew. I think Andrew Yang could be a spiritual successor to Bernie. You mean Eric Yang? I haven't met him yet though. Not anymore. Andrew Yang had this whole thing
Starting point is 01:31:12 after Biden's debate and he's like we need to defend him. He's lost his mind. And also like what Democrat out there is a socialist with multiple houses? AOC wants to be the heir apparent Maybe. To the Bernie movement or just to anything? Bernie is a lot more likable than AOC wants to be the heir apparent. Maybe, maybe. But Bernie is a lot more likable than AOC is. I mean, she had that her that advice, but there is, like, there are character personas. You can, you, there's a reason why in movies
Starting point is 01:31:52 they cast people, because if you, was it Tom Hiddleston's his name, right? He plays Loki, and he originally tried to be Thor. I'm sorry, but that guy could not be Thor. Thor is played by, what's his face? Chris Hemsworth. H'm sorry, but that guy could not be Thor. Thor is played by, what's his face? Hemsworth. Who's like super tall and jacked. And looks like Thor.
Starting point is 01:32:12 And looks like Thor. And so Tom Hiddleston. Thor plays Chris Hemsworth. So the thing is like if you get Tom Hiddleston to put on the you can Google search the videos of him testing, doing the test screenings or whatever, and it's like, yeah, no, it doesn't work. When AOC goes up on stage and she plays another one.
Starting point is 01:32:29 When she plays this, it's like, it don't work. Yeah, it's weird. And it's not you. Because I thought she was messaging like she's this cool, suave girl in politics. And that did not seem cool or suave in any way. No, that struck me as a... Back to the fly killing. Fly hunt 2024.
Starting point is 01:32:47 As someone who is from Queens, that struck me as a rich girl from Westchester playing the part of what a Queens Puerto Rican should behave like. And so she was playing a caricature. She's not from the area she represents. She's maybe lived there for a little while. But I mean, if I decided to run for office from my district in rural Virginia, and suddenly I showed up with like a bolo tie, and I had a lasso around my belt, people would be like, calm down. Like, yes, you're a sheep farmer.
Starting point is 01:33:18 And I actually do have boots and a hat. You are, in fact, a legitimate shepherd. But calm, slow your roll a little bit so yeah that was that was embarrassing that was that was and that was also desperation jamal bowman knew he was going to get crushed and he did um but that was embarrassing what about hakeem jeffries i don't i know the democrat base unites around him but how i don't really know how old he is i'm not i don't really hear him speak that's what i'm saying. He's B-tier, you know what I mean? It's got to be AOC. Yeah, AOC maybe. He was the conciliatory choice because
Starting point is 01:33:50 Pelosi had lost the House again. I think she's the only speaker who came back after losing. Normally after you lose the majority and you're no longer speaker, you quit, but Pelosi was like, no, I'm coming back a second time. And she got the job again, shows you how powerful she is. And I think they didn't know who else to pick as minority leader.
Starting point is 01:34:09 So they were like, eh, he's harmless. Probably the same reason why they picked Biden in 2019. I mean, that was the thing of all three of their leadership, that they had sort of been waiting in their wings. And the older crowd was prepared to make an exit. They're like, might as well go now. And, you know, you're fine. It wasn't, it didn't seem like super enthusiasm. To answer your question, he's, it looks like he'll be 54 this year.
Starting point is 01:34:29 So he is relatively young. But again, like, I think there is, I think there is a battle for the soul of the Democrat identity in America and what its positions are going to be going forward. And, you know, you did see this with the Republican Party to a certain extent under Donald Trump. I mean, the division between the America first versus like old guard Republican is real. And I think it has sort of in some ways shaken out. It's not at its peak sort of infighting level as it might have been in the past. But the Democrats are the party of compliance and they don't think they expected to face the ideological questions that they've had to over the last couple of years, especially if we see an increase in an interest
Starting point is 01:35:08 in populism and a return to more federalist division of powers where we want the states to have more say than the federal government. I don't think the Democratic Party is prepared to handle it. And so I don't think they have a person ready to jump to the helm because they don't know where they want their ship to go. No. And in 2019, again, I'm going to always go back to this because that's when Biden emerged, right? He came out of retirement to defeat Trump. Pre-COVID, Trump was soaring in popularity. The economy was doing great. They needed someone to run against him in 2020. And they had, I think it was 24 people. And that was the explanation was, wow, they have a really deep bench, right?
Starting point is 01:35:46 They had Kirsten Gillibrand, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, right? So they had young people. They had diverse people. Andrew Yang, right? They had all sorts of ages. What about Eric Yang? Where Eric was running to. Joaquin Phoenix, Joaquin Castro.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Everyone was running for the nomination. Where are they now? I don't know. Where are they? They had such a deep bench just five years ago, and now they are struggling for one person that they can reconcile behind. It's supposed to be vice president, and they can't do that. And I think it really is because their party is losing its own identity. Completely fractured.
Starting point is 01:36:22 We're going to go to Super Chat. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us to become a member and support our work directly because this show is made possible
Starting point is 01:36:30 thanks mostly to viewers like you. Let's go. Smash that like button. Clint Torres, the first Super Chat saying, howdy people. Howdy, Clint. Howdy, Ian. Hope y'all are having an America F. Yeah MAGA month.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Please celebrate irresponsibly for me as I'm out of the country and unable to participate properly. Well, I'm going to take a hot sauna, and it's not going to be irresponsible. It's going to be totally responsible. Do you need to set off fireworks, Ian? I don't know about that, actually. Yeah, I'd probably drive to Ohio, go spend some time with the family, maybe light off an explosive or two.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Maybe not. Did you dye your sheep red, white, and blue? No, but I hung a—I put it on my Instagram. I hung a flag on the side of the barn and it's enormous. I think it's like 14 by 20. It's gigantic. Amazing. And it's huge.
Starting point is 01:37:13 I can see it from every road. Hot take. Hot take. I don't like fireworks. Do you guys like fireworks? I don't like them. I've always wondered what do people love these things for? They go out and they go, yay, explosion, yay.
Starting point is 01:37:24 And it's like being at rock concerts and everyone's like screaming and all in unison. It's Ian. It's okay to like things. It's what? It's okay to like things. No, Ian's very countercultural. He's very different. Like, what is it about giant explosions in the sky that are like rapturous?
Starting point is 01:37:39 You don't like fireworks and you don't like rock concerts. Well, I like listening to the music, but I don't like screaming and like... So you don't like people having fun? Is that fun? I like fireworks because first, you can light them and they do different things. You can get the
Starting point is 01:37:58 little UFOs where it's like a little disc and it's got two facing different directions and when you light it, it shoots rockets and then spins and flies in the air which is great. Those are fun. Roman candles. You shake them and go Which are very dangerous by the way. Be careful. We weren't allowed to use those.
Starting point is 01:38:13 You gotta be careful. It's true. But you can aim them and shoot them in the air. Then you've got bottle rockets which are fun because you also can put them in bottles and you light them yourself and they launch in the air and you watch them pop and it's fun because you're you're participating now why do i like watching big fireworks displays because they do cool things where a single mortar goes up and you see an explosion of all of these different colors and then all of a sudden the mortars you couldn't
Starting point is 01:38:38 see pop and it makes a picture in the sky and you're like man that's really cool how'd they do that that's cool they have this big thing that launches all with perfect timing so that you're like, man, that's really cool. How'd they do that? That's cool. They have this big thing that launches all with perfect timing so that you're looking in the sky and you'll see all of this red, white, and blue. And then all of a sudden, which you don't see because they're too small, are the other mortars go boom.
Starting point is 01:38:57 And then all of a sudden there's stars next to it. That's so cool. So the reason we do giant explosives on the 4th is to remember the cannons and the artillery for the War of Independence? I don't believe that's accurate. No. Just fireworks were celebratory. Bombs bursting in air, isn't that what it's about?
Starting point is 01:39:11 I think it was Thomas Jefferson who wrote or was it Ben Franklin? No, it was John Adams who wrote this day should henceforth be celebration with fireworks and... Fireworks were just for celebration. He wrote when the decoration was signed, this day fireworks should be part of the...
Starting point is 01:39:29 I think that's always why it's been the... I mean, they were always for celebration, but he specifically, I'm pretty sure it was John Adams, specifically said this day should be celebrated with picnics and sporting events. And I have to find the exact quote. By the way, my favorite Roman candle videos are when the dog grabs the Roman candle and starts running around the yard.
Starting point is 01:39:48 I always love that. There are some really amazing fireworks shows set to music and stuff. It's very cool. All right. Amos Moses says, would you kindly read my super chats? I experienced the most ignorant or evil person. The argument was, if you need a book to tell you not to kill, you're a bad person. I asked, what about unborn humans? They then asked about an unbaked cake. I said, if it was a gay
Starting point is 01:40:11 cake, they would force a Christian through the labor of cake baking. Then they defended the gay cake. Am I crazy or WTF? I think it's hard to follow. It's a lie. I love that you feel passionately about something. That's great. John Adams, it ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shoes, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires, and illuminations from one end of this continent to the other from this time forward forevermore.
Starting point is 01:40:38 Wow. So fireworks, the ultimate illumination. We need more leaders that write things like that. Yeah. Well, the thing is, he didn't write down everything. And so I'm sure at some point in his life
Starting point is 01:40:50 he had some crude joke. Like LOL? No, I'm saying like Ben Franklin's singing out those buddies and he's like... Drunk as hell. Yeah, and he says
Starting point is 01:41:00 some crude joke about women or something and then they all laugh and he didn't write it down. Yeah. It's like, why would he? You know what I mean? Now we're in the area where everything you do is written joke about women or something. And then they all laugh and you don't write it down. Yeah. It's like, why would he? You know what I mean? Now we're in the area where everything you do is written down or spoken or recorded.
Starting point is 01:41:08 So, you know, we have these great quotes where it's like, the fathers of this nation have henceforth birthed the greatest creation. And you're like, wow, so honorable and noble. And then you have like Ian Crossland on Twitter being like, you know, sometimes my cat farts and it scares himself. Yeah, I'll talk about poop online a lot. And then it's just like, see, I'm sure Ben Franklin was talking to his buddy at one point in his life because the dude lived to be like 80 something. And he was like, my dog once farted and scared himself. And all the women he had sex with.
Starting point is 01:41:36 And he just never wrote it down. How many illegitimate children did he have? A couple. One of my friends was like, she was reading his memoir or a story of his life. And she was like, he was America's first F-boy. All right, let's grab some more. Keep it PG because his family's listening. Vasia Bryansk says, just wanted to say hi and thank y'all for helping keep me motivated
Starting point is 01:41:57 to get my CDLA permit the other day, along with the quartering and Mike Rowe. Congrats. Nice job. Yeah, hear, hear. Raymond G. Maga Stanley Jr. Yeah, hear, hear. Raymond G. MAGA Stanley Jr. says, Lincoln once said, quote, my dream is of a place and a time where America will once again be seen
Starting point is 01:42:12 as the last best hope of Earth. The OG of MAGA. Hope everyone has a beautiful tomorrow. Forward the line. Thank you, Raymond. Great line. Alex Gray says, Tim, consider having on Depressed Ginger.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Who's that ginger who's that I don't know I've never heard ginger no idea is that Jen Psaki you're welcome to come on alright Millennial Republic says watching the MSM do
Starting point is 01:42:38 damage damage control on the on the on the sisters lies. I think it's typo. Their lies about Biden's health has been glorious. Thanks for what you guys do. Here's 50 bucks for some fireworks. Happy
Starting point is 01:42:55 MAGA month. Nice. Give them all to Ian. No, Ian hates fireworks and fun. I'll make sure they find a nice home. Adam says, except Tim, it feels like we're playing the card game The Resistance and the Dems are the bad guys. Never played it. We're working on a card game. I don't know where Dane's at with it yet
Starting point is 01:43:12 though. But we should be ready to launch really, really soon. Nice. It's called Debate Me. I think I worked on some of those cards. Debate Me is the game. It's going to be fun. Awesome. Alright. Grofty says it's MAGA month. Keep your fingers attached. Don't play with fireworks and don't drink and drive.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Love to America and say hello to your neighbors. That is some conservative advice, Grofty. Elf Treehug says are we doing the World Series of Poker next year? No. I don't like poker tournaments. They're not fun. It's not my thing. Have you done one before? No. I've won one.
Starting point is 01:43:44 I went all in. Really? A couple pocket aces in one, yeah. Took it down to the end. I had a deal with my friend. I'm like, if either one of us win, the TV is going at your house because it was this big giant screen. So the both of us landed at the final table of 12 and I saw him across the table and I ended up taking all his money and winning the tournament with it. I mean, he lost. Genuinely lost.
Starting point is 01:43:59 We both wanted to beat each other, but it was the only tournament I ever played in. I won. Nice job. I like cash games. I said I was going to win before the tournament, too. It's online, a video of me saying, I'm going to win this tournament tonight. Yeah. Manifestation. My confidence was off the record.
Starting point is 01:44:12 But I love watching the World Series of Poker. You know, poker is an interesting game. I think this year is probably going to be the biggest it's ever been. And the top prize, was it last year, like $17 million or some ridiculous number? Oh, good lord. Yeah. I didn't know it was that big. $10,000 entrance and $10,000 to enter.
Starting point is 01:44:33 World Series of Poker. And the problem, the thing I don't like about poker tournaments, you know, I'll watch the World Series. It's like, dude, there's way too much in poker of guy gets kings and the other guy's got aces and it's over and it's like what are you supposed to do you know what i mean so uh i also don't like magic the gathering tournaments because the win rate for pros is like 51 boring i like more skill games poker is fun cash games are fun because you sit, you can assess the players you're playing against, and you can determine whether or not you're going to be a winning player or a losing player right there.
Starting point is 01:45:08 With tournaments, it's not too dissimilar, but it's a different game. What I like about tournaments is that you can't buy back in. You might have one or two buy-ins. No, there's tons of tournaments with buy-ins. Some buy-ins, but it's not like Rich Guy can bring in 50 times the amount of chips of you and then push you out. You're kind of on the same—
Starting point is 01:45:27 Sort of true. But there's tons of tournaments that have limited rebuy or unlimited rebuys. And there's tournaments that do unlimited rebuys up to a certain amount of time. Yeah. And so what people do in those tournaments is they'll sit down, and they'll look down at Ace Queen, and they'll, I'm all in. And then they'll look down at Jack 10, I'm all in. And if they lose, they go, whatever, buy back. And it's like, whatever.
Starting point is 01:45:47 That's not, yeah. I mean, some people like that. You don't got to play that. I think, I don't think the World Series main event has rebuys. I think you're in, you're in, you're out, you're out. But it's fun to watch because it's exciting, but it's also not a game where you, like,
Starting point is 01:46:03 it's 20% luck. Yeah, it is. It's about 80% scale, 20% luck. I don't like dice. It's also not a game where you like there it's 20% luck. Yeah, it's about 80% scale 20% luck. I don't like dice. It's not dice. It's it's you've got to know how to play. I mean, if you're playing fast and loose and you you go all in with Jack five offsuit, you're probably not going to win the tournament with a Jack six offsuit. Actually, it may they might have been suited.
Starting point is 01:46:19 There is a viral video coming out from a guy who ended up he ended up winning against two guys who had ace king, he had jack five however that being said jack five could be the appropriate play assuming that these two guys are both playing ace king they're blocking each other they're not going to make a pair and you're going to win he hit the five on the river he ended up winning and then some guy got accused of cheating for pulling his chips back because the tournament's poorly managed so that's another thing about tournaments i just i just realized I won that tournament with a J6. It's all about that J6. I like cash games. Cash games are fun. You can sit down, you can figure out the players,
Starting point is 01:46:52 and if it's not a table for you, you can get up and leave. And there's no strings, and it's just, you do your thing. Tournaments, it's like, oh, man. If you're in the World Series of Poker main event, you're sitting there for, what is it, 14 days? It's two weeks. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's the 3rd to theth or it might it might end actually not it might
Starting point is 01:47:08 the main yeah i think it's it might be that long i'm not sure no i think it might it might be 10 days wow it's a lot of poker it's a lot of poker and then like people get wiped out and they get super tired but hey if you win you win you know you don't drink when you're playing poker i don't got i don't got you know two weeks to sit around playing poker. That's not that's not my thing. Play like once a week, maybe. Phil Parnell says, Tim, love the long stream morning shows. Maybe keep to Thursday. Also, I'm active military and there's a group of MTG dudes I work with who would say who would slay your PT standards for that competition.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Just saying. Oh, yeah, so one idea someone had this morning for a Magic Gathering tournament was you have to, before the tournament starts, you've got to do pull-ups, and the amount of pull-ups you do is how much your HP is in the game. Yeah, you can get to it. And I said, actually, you know what would be a better idea
Starting point is 01:47:55 is 10 pull-ups, 10 push-ups, 10 sit-ups, and 10 burpees. And that determines your life total in the Commander game because you have 40 HP in commander, multiplayer. And if you can't do it, you're going to start the game super weak and get knocked out. And whoever does it first gets to go first. I like that. Yeah. Everyone, go!
Starting point is 01:48:14 Good idea. Yeah, 10 pull-ups, 10 burpees, 10 sit-ups, and 10 push-ups. You guys said MTG, and I thought you were talking about Marjorie Taylor Greene. Marjorie Taylor Greene, exactly. That's awesome. The active military group loves Marjorie Taylor Greene. She's our group. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:48:28 You know what's weird, though? I have a question for you. We're nerds. I'm curious your thoughts on this. We're the nerds? Chess players. Watch a chess tournament. What do you see?
Starting point is 01:48:35 People of all different shapes and sizes. There are, people are average. You, chess, you watch a chess tournament. Again, average people. Magic the Gathering, everyone's morbidly obese.'s gotta be the soda like 80 to 90 yeah but chess players i don't get it yeah are chess players like getting exercise in because they know it's better for their minds what about magic the gathering specifically has an 80 to 90 morbid obesity rate i think because game shops sell diet soda and like mountain dew and chess places don't.
Starting point is 01:49:06 Cultural thing. Like a library or something. Back when Tumblr was a thing, there was a guy whose whole Tumblr was photos of butt cracks at Magic the Gathering. Remember that? Well, there was a guy- He would selfie himself with- No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:49:18 He would- It's hysterical. His friend would take a picture of him, of him crouching down like this next to someone's exposed butt crack. Because it was a whole bunch of big fat guys i don't understand why hasbro and wizards of the coast tolerate that culture in their game it is it is it is a limiting factor for their business it is hard to get people interested in this game because of things like that and the truth is you need to be sharp you
Starting point is 01:49:42 need to have a really good memory and be good at math to win those games. You know, the funniest thing is, Allison and I were playing Commander over at Mamba Collectibles in Martinsburg. Shout out. And it's, so there's four players, and the two guys, we know the guy who works there, he's playing with us, he brought it, his friend came to sit down, we're playing
Starting point is 01:49:59 four player, and Allison says something like, you know, it's the end of my turn, And she's like, I think I have something I can play, uh, search my library. And we all go mystical tutor. We all instantly knew exactly what card she was looking at just because we know all the cards and like we, the amount of land she had available. She said, I think I can play a thing. And we're like mystical tutor. Like we, we know what you're doing. We know what card you're looking at. There's no other card you would consider playing right now. I just think that's absolutely hilarious that we'll be sitting at a game
Starting point is 01:50:27 and she's only played maybe like 16, 17 games so far in her life. She's actually pretty good at it. And she'll say something like, I don't know if this guy makes sense level... Oh, Lighthouse Chronologist. Instantly, he could just name the card. But if this culture focused on... If Hasbro and they have a hard time.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Magic the Gathering, the first trading card game ever made, and now you've got Pokemon. You've got Yu-Gi-Oh. You've got Lorcana. You've got all these other games, and they're massively popular. They're billion-dollar industries. If they just focused on creating something to be – that would inspire younger people, they would sell like hotcakes. So now now it has Bruce telling investors is they have to focus on what's called universes beyond where they've made Fallout, Warhammer. They're making Assassin's Creed. They're like, we have
Starting point is 01:51:16 this great game format of Magic the Gathering, but the IP is boring. So we need to go after other IP. And I'm like, the reason your IP is bad is because your community is a bunch of slovenly, morbidly obese people. And I'm not trying to be mean to this community, but it's true. So when young people see this, they're like, I don't want to be part of that. Yeah. Because you don't want to be, you don't want to, you don't want to be the loser in school. So the basic, basically MTG is only ever advocated for the people who are not taking care of themselves. You, you need to have a pro tour where the people are something that young people look up to and they think, I want to be that. Now what they're doing is they're going, okay, how about Fallout instead?
Starting point is 01:51:53 Oh yeah, because Fallout is a separate IP, a separate video game. People will like it and you're going to buy the cards because you like Fallout. They need to foster their community better. Instead, they've done pronouns. They've banned people. They've just, they've made it worse for themselves. Yeah. I was just thinking about giving creatures pronouns. If it was like a he or a she, her, the creature. In the pro tour, they put the pronouns under their name. And of course,
Starting point is 01:52:15 all the pronouns are always the normal biological. I was kind of lucky to have a group of friends that were really smart in high school and not obese. But it was before obesity became a real thing, like 1994. It was really the high fructose got into the culture right in 1993 and started poisoning. But explain chess players, man. They sit around all day. So people, there's a big culture. Yeah, right. There's a big debate right now over what people call brain sports, e-sports, chess, card games, and why women aren't in the top ranks of these. If the argument is that men have a biological advantage with muscle mass and bone density, where are the top female chess players and poker players? There's very, very, very few. And so another component of this is,
Starting point is 01:52:55 of course, when you look at a lot of these esports, average guys, skinny guys, and I'll tell you this, South Park made that joke where they played World of Warcraft and all got morbidly obese. That is ridiculously false. And if they spent five minutes looking into it, they would have actually got it right. And that is several people died playing MMORPGs because they were wasting away. They play this game to the point of addiction and they don't eat or drink. And so it's actually like, it's a negative when we used to play World of Warcraft
Starting point is 01:53:30 and it's like, hey, we're gonna go raid like on Courage or something. And I'm like, bio. And they go, oh, come on, man. It's like, dude, I gotta go to the bathroom. And they're like, just wait. And I'm like, I can't. And it was actually,
Starting point is 01:53:40 because you had 40 people, 39 other people, and they're waiting on you. And so when I played World of Warcraft Vanilla, I dropped like 15 pounds. Wow. Because you don't eat or drink. You're sitting there just gaming nonstop, and you're like, oh, I haven't eaten all day. That's why I'm so skinny with my life. Probably.
Starting point is 01:53:55 You're playing, what are you playing? Starcraft? Right now I'm playing Backpack Battles. There you go. Like crazy. Early today, it's like chess. But it's like you're challenging yourself, and then you go PvP and see who did better. Yeah, we weren't, like my brother too. We both weren't eating. We would eat like a half a meal a day and then just sit there on the computer talking with people. We'd
Starting point is 01:54:13 be in team speak. We'd be hanging out and we'd just be like, I don't got time to go eat. I want to give a special shout out to fan hots. Who's one of my favorite e-sports players at the moment. It's fan HOTS plays a lot of heroes of the storm. Great guy. Check out his YouTube channel. Brilliant dude. So a surge says people who play magic eat like ish and the culture encourages it. Also chess isn't like magic because you play ahead and plan many, many potential games.
Starting point is 01:54:36 They burn tons and tons of calories while playing surge or producer. I think I think you're on vacation. Magic magic burns tons of calories. Because you're thinking. Yeah, it's all brain heat. A lot of heat's generated from thought. It's not just that. It's that your brain uses calories. It takes a lot, you know. And to understand magic, it's chess and poker combined. So you're not just dealing with a single chess board where you're planning in advance. All of these pro magic players, they do the same thing chess players do. They have pro teams, they have managers, and they try to solve decks. And they'll
Starting point is 01:55:11 say to the guy who's competing, they'll say, okay, you're going to be going up against in this tournament. The top three decks are these decks. Right now, everyone's playing this one. You're going to need this in your sideboard. You're going to need this. And they actually play test out these decks against a bunch of other decks and try and consider what their opponent has at the time. It's very similar. It's just, I think it's the culture. You go to a card shop and they've got Cheetos and Doritos and Mountain Dew in the vending machine. And they're like, eat away friends. And then they, they, they encourage it. The company encourages it and they get mocked for it. Anyway, we should read some more super chats. All right, let's go. Damage in what does it say? Damage in. Damage Inc.
Starting point is 01:55:53 USMC. There you go. Biden is so good on a bike. Let's send him a segue. I mean, I think he'd do better on a segue. That way, Heron Gaming News says, Tim, those aren't flies. It's a CIA drone. Also, if anyone is Gandalf, it's Ian. He'd be a divination wizard, and Tim is an eloquence bard in D&D. That's hardcore. I don't know if I'd be an eloquence bard in D&D. Perhaps for this show, that might be the case.
Starting point is 01:56:17 You're like a rogue with bard. You're probably a bard rogue. That's what I was telling. It was funny when Matt Walsh was here. Did you see that one? No. I called him a paladin and he was like, paladin, what? And I was like, like a holy knight, like a knight of retribution. He goes, well, I think that's a compliment. And I was like, well, it is right. My point is you're like a paladin of holy retribution. You do not tolerate these people and these things you demand. They stop. And we were talking about abortion and sterilization.
Starting point is 01:56:43 I was like, I'm a rogue. I'm kind of like sitting back and back whatever gets the job done i'm a bard i thought a lot about it recently that's my highest level skill i'm also a wizard but mostly i used to think i'm a sorcerer but it just turns out i'm a bard i use my charisma definitely not definitely not a sorcerer no it's more bardic spells yeah sorcerers are like naturally talented i've had to learn i mean it's my acting skills and all that crap. But like, Trump would be closer to what, like, I'm not saying he would be, but someone who's just this naturally X-factor person,
Starting point is 01:57:12 that's like a sorcerer, you know? Trump's a sorcerer. He might be a wizard. No, no, no, no. Wizards study, and they learn how the universe works. Sorcerers have a natural just talent within them that they can just do it. Yeah. just talent within them that's they can just do it yeah yep i guess that's partly trump trump's trump's a barbarian but he's definitely not yeah he's definitely
Starting point is 01:57:33 he's got intelligence too like intelligent charisma guy he's definitely a sorcerer natural talent charismatic all that stuff yeah he just knows how to do it he knows how to speak and he can speak and just hypnotize people oh iv, Ivanka was on Lex Friedman's show. I haven't seen the interview yet. It looks cool, though. They were hitting on her. Oh, yeah, so that was her first real public speaking in quite some time. His kids are so smart.
Starting point is 01:57:55 I've got to say, that's a really intelligent family. I'm glad I got to know them. All right, we'll grab a couple more here. What's-her-name says, more Daniel shows, please. He's always a great guest. Also, Ian is looking so good. Keep up what you're doing, and you'll have a couple more here. What's-her-name says, more Daniel shows, please. He's always a great guest. Also, Ian is looking so good. Keep up what you're doing, and you'll have a wife in no time. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:58:10 I like you. You're very kind. I had a sheet for that person. Brittany Teal says, Tim, you need an assault gun. A salt gun for your flight situation. I have one. Works great and is a little blast of salt. Just saying, I do have it, but we cannot spray the studio with salt.
Starting point is 01:58:25 It just lets out such a little amount. It adds up. Oh, I have one. Works great and is a little blast of salt. Just saying, I do have it, but we cannot spray the studio with salt. It just lets out such a little amount. It adds up. Oh, I have one. I love it. When the cicadas were here a couple years ago, I was running around and now it's bang. Because we were feeding them for the chickens. Yeah. So we'd knock them out of the sky.
Starting point is 01:58:39 They'd fall. We'd walk up to the trees with gloves on and just shovel them into a jar. And we'd have like 60, 70 of them. And we just chuck them into the chickens and they just annihilate them. The funny thing is the original chickens of Chicken City are like, they're sitting there telling all the young ones like, you would not believe what it was like when we were young. Giant bugs as big as your head. And they're like, sure, Dad. Yeah, I've heard this story.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Yeah, you're right, Dad. Not true. Actually, an embarrassing assault gun from literally about six hours ago as my better half and I played How Close Can We Be to each other shooting the assault gun before it starts to hurt. Oh. Like we're at six and finally it was like, ow, ow, that's too close. That's too close. How close is too close?
Starting point is 01:59:22 This was about as close. Like that actually. Eight feet? Yeah. Seven's too close. How close is too close? This was about as close. Eight feet? Seven feet? Yeah. Jeeber says, Mars has an atmosphere, Tim. Helicopters and parachutes work there. Right, right, right. The issue, what I'm told is that gravity
Starting point is 01:59:34 is too weak to maintain a dense enough atmosphere with oxygen to maintain human life. And so it's got a very weak atmosphere. I don't know how you rectify that. Mars is too small. We could could one theory is to build cloud cities on venus that'd be cool as hell because the gases are so dense it wouldn't be super hard to create something that would float oh so we're talking about those floating cities
Starting point is 01:59:54 try them on venus first yeah and then you could walk off the edge of your city into like a sulfuric gas that just vaporizes and you die and you're banished like 300 some people have been saying that the earth's core is actually plasma at the center of the iron, the liquid iron. So maybe there's a plasmatic core at the center of Mars and we could jolt it back to active. Maybe. The high frequency or something. Mars.
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Starting point is 02:01:01 tomorrow for MAGA Day, Independence Day on MAGA Month, and we hope you guys all have a very, very good time and celebrate. And then we'll be back Monday. Daniel, do you want to shout anything out? Yes. And I do want to say I was dead serious when I said how it's great to be with you because you all do things and you create things and you build things and you can see that optimism being with you. You're creative and you bring things into reality. And boy, we need more of that. Daniel Turner, Power of the Future.
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