Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1067 Trump Survives Assassination Attempt, VANCE IS VP PICK w/Natalie Winters & Viva Frei

Episode Date: July 16, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Libby, & Elad are joined by Viva Frei & Natalie Winters to discuss Trump surviving an attempted assassination, ABC News blaming Trump for failed assassination plot against him, Elon Musk pledging $45 Million per month to Trump's campaign, and Trump officially announcing his VP pick as JD Vance. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Libby @LibbyEmmons (X) Guests: Natalie Winters @NatalieGWinters Viva Frei @thevivafrei (X) Elad Eliahu @elaadeliahu (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On Saturday, July 13, 2024, a man attempted to assassinate Donald Trump, a former president and the frontrunner for the presidential election this year. He ended up striking several people in the crowd, killing one man, a father, and a firefighter, Cory Comprator. It's a sad story. Many people say that he missed. He missed Donald Trump because Trump survived, but Trump actually did get hit. Now, I know most of you know this, and we do have new developments. It's being reported now that the police were informed of this man on the roof for 26 minutes prior to the attack on Trump. Now, initially, over the weekend, we didn't know exactly what happened. Some said it had been about 40 or so seconds. Then we learned it was two whole minutes where people were screaming, a man's on the roof, and police and Secret Service took no action. We're now hearing reports that it was 26.

This raises a lot of questions, especially with reports that the roof the man was on was a staging area for police. So how could this have happened? That this man had a line of sight. Directly to Donald Trump. 130 yards away. Police were warned. Over and over again. And not one. Not one law enforcement officer.

In any way. Simply said to their radio. Get the president off the stage. Not one. Fortunately Donald Trump tilted his head. Just a few seconds before the shot. Not one. Fortunately, Donald Trump tilted his head just a few seconds before the shot and the bullet instead ripped through his ear. He fell down.

Secret Service surrounded him. He stands up, raises his fist, covered in blood and screams, fight, fight, fight. Things are certainly getting insane. The rhetoric, of course, has been crazy. Joe Biden gave a statement on the matter. And we do have some more updates and we'll talk about the response from Democrats and from many progressive activists. And then we do have more news, of course. Donald Trump has announced

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interesting thoughts we'd love to hear it from you so again timcast.com click join us become a member smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is natalie winters hi thank you so much for having me i picked a slow news cycle day to come on the show. Who are you? What do you do? I am the co-host turned, I guess, temporary host of Stephen K. Bannon's War Room, formerly an investigative reporter. I'm also the editor, the executive editor of our website component to the War Room brand, and always honored to be joining you guys. Awesome. Thanks for hanging out. We have Viva Fry as well. Tim, thank you for having me again. Everybody, nice to be here. Who am I? Everybody knows. Viva

Fry, former Montreal litigator turned current Florida rumbler, lawyer by trade, 13 years of practice, wound it up, do legal political analysis commentary, and what a world we're living in. Absolutely. Libby is here. I am here. I'm Libby Emmons. I'm the editor-in-chief of the Post Millennial and Human Events. Glad to be joining everyone out here. Alad Eliaou is here. I am here. I'm Libby Emmons. I'm the editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial and Human Events. Glad to be joining everyone out here. Alad Eliaou is here. What's up, everybody? I'm a field reporter here at TimCast News. Happy to be here. And, of course, Hannah-Claire Brimelow.

I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow. I'm co-hosting the show, and I'm a writer at SCNR.com. I'm so grateful to be here with all of you. Let's get started. And just so all of you know, we're here live at the RNC and in one of the many locations. You may have noticed the cameras look, for those that are watching live, we all look a bit yellow. We are in like a 1970s conference room where we're going to be doing our live show. So head over to TimCast.com. There are a few tickets, just a little bit, still available if you want to come to our live show Thursday, the finale of the RNC in Milwaukee, if you're around.

Then pick up your tickets at timcast.com. Let's jump into the first story, of course, and we'll begin with the image that is going to be in the history books forever. This picture of Donald Trump that was taken by, I believe the man's name, is it Evan Vucci? Maybe his name. I hope I'm not getting that wrong. Credit to this photographer. And Donald Trump, surrounded by Secret Service service agents pulling him from the stage raising a fist with blood streaking down his face in the american

flag in sight this is the iconic image of a president who refused to be stopped to refuse to be put down but there's all there's there's breaking news and there's a lot of information i gotta be honest we gotta go through All of these These photos And Let me see If I have this Where is the This photograph Is going to be Iconic

For the rest Of American history And it's gonna be Defining Of What is an evil regime Versus the Good that's

It's Which is the one Raising the flag Of Iwo Jima It's as iconic As that It looks like the cosmos scripted it to look well If you were watching this live if you're watching that which we all watched live and then watched clips of I'm sure What I thought was really so amazing in that moment was that the Secret Service tried to keep him down and he said you could See him saying wait wait and then raise his fist and say, fight, fight, fight. And you had a lot of Democrat pundits and leftists saying, you know, this was defiant and all of this stuff.

But I thought it was something more. I thought that it was reassuring. It was actually calming. It was actually a moment of optimism. Because what he did was he said, I just got shot. But we're all here. I'm still here. I'm still going to lead us forward.

You're still here, right? For the most part, except for the tragic story of the one man who did pass. But he basically gave us all a sense of optimism and hope. And we needed that in that moment. It was reassuring. And it reminded me of after 9-11. I was living in Philadelphia at the time, and we got the feed from New York, the local New York One feed. And Rudy Giuliani got on TV, and he said, alternate side of the street parking is suspended for tomorrow.

And I thought, that is calming. That is reassuring. That is, tomorrow is coming. New York is still here. Everything is still the same. Don't worry about moving your cars, everyone. And I got a similar sense, different, but a similar sense of like, we are America. We are here.

We are strong. We are still moving forward. We are not put down. And I loved that about it. I think you could hear that in the crowd, too, right? They're screaming. There's anxiety. And when he stands up, you get that USA chant, right?

There's this moment of rallying around Trump and what he symbolizes the country because this will be one of those things where everyone says where were you when you heard that president trump had been shot in pennsylvania i mean it is going to change the course of american history the same way that 9-11 did or rfk's assassination we we always once we have a complete picture of what happened, we reflect on things a little differently. The moment this happened, my phone is lighting up. I pull up the feed and all I know is Donald. I was told Donald Trump had been shot. And I'm like, is he going to stand up? He grabbed his neck and collapsed.

Is this it? And then I watch him stand up. Secret Service. He's screaming. and i'm just floored we were uh we're hanging out milwaukee and um i was just enjoying a nice saturday recreation the studio was was driving into to milwaukee nothing was set up we didn't have keys to the to the to the room yet i'm hanging out at the poker tables nobody knew what was going on nobody was paying attention and what was

terrifying to me was as this is happening i'm sitting at this table where everyone's just playing a game and not paying attention and there's a man to my left who's a local politician and as soon as it happened my phone's going and i'm looking down i look over to him and we both look at each other and i'm like did you he's like yes and i was like holy no i wondered to myself and i asked i said how come all of the the TVs in this casino did not just change? How come the intercom did not just come on? And the manager said, ladies and gentlemen, we hate to interrupt your entertainment, but an assassination attempt has just been made on Donald Trump at a presidential rally. feel like that to me is what that sounds that sounds like what would happen like you should know this yeah and no one knew that this happened tv was on there watching i think they're watching baseball and basketball and people were completely oblivious but uh to the point you're making

when as soon as i saw it and i pulled up the photo the guy across from me goes right alongside iwo jima i think that really is the impact i mean because we live in a digital age these images move faster but also get spread farther and to think that this is going to be the the image we walk away from from this moment is actually amazing because again to contrast with other tragedies we've had in american history i mean sometimes it's the car speeding away, right? And instead, we got this clip of Trump saying, let me get my shoes and wait. And then like connecting with the crowd. Look, he's leaving with dignity.

This man is bleeding from his ear. And he's like, I am walking out kind of on my own terms. I know there's questions about how Secret Service reacted. It's not my area of expertise, you know, how long he's on stage and stuff like that. But Trump really said like, he acted like the leader of the free world in that moment. He did.

He said, I am sending a message. This morning we had Brian Glenn on and we were walking through his kind of firsthand experience at the rally and something that I hadn't really seen reported really anywhere else. He said that once the initial shots rang out that a lot of people in the crowd, he was like 30, 40 percent. They turned around and they started yelling at the media, saying like, this is your fault. You guys did this. Even Fox News, too. They were like going all in on them, which I thought was something that was interesting. But I also have to say, too, I think President Trump was so right to use the words fight.

And I know a lot of the kind of prevailing theme that we've been hearing at the RNC, which I've been all day has been this concept of unity and coming together and obviously we're not calling for violence but I think you have to make the point that you can't have unity and you cannot unite with people who fundamentally want your movement

and want you as supporters of President Trump, supporters of the MAGA agenda, either locked away in prison like they're doing with Jan Sixers or in this case dead. And I don't think that unity is really the word right now, because if the tables were turned and it were a Trump supporter who would who would try to shoot President Biden, you would not be hearing the word unity. You would see the media going all in on anyone MAGA and it'd be a very different, different tone.

This is how it goes every time. When we watch the Summer of Love and the far left engage in this, like, low-tier terrorism. And once again, we've maintained the entire time we have to win through the process because they're the ones trying to destroy the process.

We have to uphold and maintain a legal system because they are the ones trying to tear it down. And we had a caller last week say, how do we do this when with the arrest of Steve Bannon and Merrick Garland skirting his criminal charges and getting away with it? How do we function? And it's we have to keep trying to play through the system because they're hoping that we abandon these rules. They're hoping that we give up on our system. I think that that's really huge because we see that we saw Biden saying, you know, everybody cool it down, vote at the battle boxes, you know, pray for former Trump. And he had all this stuff out. And then when the White House was asked today if if Biden was going to tone down the rhetoric, he said no, because he doesn't actually have any plans to. He wants everybody to be quiet. Let him continue spewing his propaganda. And that includes telling Trump and all of Trump supporters and all of conservatives in the country that they are wrong, horrible people. an inch away this time from something really scary perhaps a millimeter away extremely the

thought of trump actually being assassinated would be um calls for it would be very dangerous for the country obviously you know the republican party is mostly is trump's party at this point so the thought of him actually being hurt and killed um i think it adds to the legend of Trump and it solidifies the legend of Trump. He was going to win, obviously, before this, but now, you know, obviously a show. I'm the Canadian here and I'm watching this and I'm watching the videos over and over again. And, you know, I've watched the JFK assassination.

It was violent. It was graphic. It was deliberately publicly displayed to like rub in the face of the people, humiliate them and and demoralize them it had it been that i'm thinking there this is how i would write my name summer down to get recruited for if it were send me off to battle this is where i would that would be my line in the sand but the most amazing thing about that image everybody's got a character of

trump he's got his red his orange you know his hair is his tan that moment where he's red in the face with rage and and commitment and you don't see him as the caricature anymore that is the human that is a man who they just tried to kill him there's no you know those I got the best words that's a man on a mission now and you see him as the human and no longer the character and that's the image it's going to be there and you start thinking about his family too you know that was one thing I thought I've character. And that's the image that's going to be there. And you start thinking about his family, too. You know, that was one thing I thought. I've been on Laura Trump's show a few times.

And I, you know, she shares pictures of the grandkids. And you see his family out there. They're very vocal. And you're just like, oh, my goodness. Imagine seeing your father, you know. I had seen a report. And I don't think it's true that Barron was right in front. And I think that's not true at all. But, again, you have that moment where you think, like, if trump stands up and puts his fist and says i'm okay like it's for america but

i'm also sure it's for his family i mean we saw melania's statement where she was like please remember right state i thought it was really interesting and i think it's it's so uh poignant of her style i think it was beautiful i also think the timing of all of like you were saying what was it a difference of literally one millimeter ahead till he was reportedly looking at you know charts depicting illegal immigration but i even think if you take it back to to way long before this i mean had democrats and establishment republicans not put him through the trials and tribulations of all the lawfare um the attacks that they had put him through for years since 2016 he probably would not have been talking about right what he would have been talking about in that moment who knows if he would have even been in pennsylvania because

his campaign rally schedule it could have been different because he wouldn't have been stuck in a new york courtroom right there are so many things that the democrats put him through that got him to be standing at that stage in that moment to be looking back tilted to the right like steve said from prison he had had the armor of god in that moment but when you really i think trace it back all the way to 2016 it's it's mind-blowing there are there are a lot of people who are highlighting the american flag yeah flipped over in itself and inverted into the shape of a cross maybe that means something i you know believe what you want but i want to say that uh while they're saying that Donald Trump had some kind of divine intervention here,

the idea that Donald Trump tilting his head by a millimeter saved his life. To look at the jumbotron. To look at a jumbotron. The odds of this, of everything playing out the way it was. And I think to myself, this is like crazier than the plot of the silliest cheesy action movie. It's the only positive thing illegal immigration has done, which is give Donald Trump that chart to look at. Where Donald Trump, within a few seconds, he's turning to the right, he's talking to people, and then he tilts. And had he not, he would not be here.

It's remarkable to think about all of the circumstances that led up to that moment where that shooter was able to get the shot he did and simply because trump tilted a slight bit more it foiled the plan of that man now i want to jump to this story we have new information which will shock all of you i have wpxi.com news alleged trump shooter spotted by law enforcement nearly 30 minutes before the shots were fired. The official number is 26. It was 5.45 p.m. Someone called it in. They took a picture of the person.

They said that they have learned from a source that person in the picture is Thomas Crooks. We're told it's not clear if he had a gun with him at that point. According to multiple sources, a law enforcement officer had also previously seen Crooks on the ground and called him in as a suspicious person with a picture. 26 minutes after the second picture of Crooks was taken by law enforcement, the second, mind you, and the information was called in,

shots were fired from the roof of the American Glass Research Building. Seconds later, a Secret Service sniper returned fire and killed Crooks. Now, there's a lot of questions as to how something like this happened. And it's very hard. And I know I look, I know the media is going to attack and insult me and everybody else. It is hard to believe that this is a lone gunman who got lucky. This defies all logic, a clear line of sight within 130 yards of of the front runner for the for the presidential election and not once in a half an hour did a single law enforcement officer say suspicious man on the roof get the president off the stage all they had to do was click their

walkie-talkie and say get trump off stage security threat. Nobody? Nobody. Not one person. Corey Mills brought up that when, as a former sniper, when they would do these assessments with Secret Service, they track what are vantage points at 100 yards, 200 yards, 300 yards. So I'm supposed to believe, and the American people are supposed to believe, that in this instance, a crazed lone gunman had a ladder placed up against a building where police were staging climbed onto the roof was seen by two law enforcement officers who took pictures of him

and counted another law enforcement officer who saw him on the roof and backed away was identified by members of the crowd and by secret service and no one did anything until he literally shot Donald Trump. It's impossible to explain. I can steel man a bit of it and I'll steel man it knowing that I don't believe it. Somebody on a roof just trying to get a better viewpoint of the president. You know, suspicious, but not terrible. But you could see in the videos now and we know all all these facts, that one sniper had him in his scope for an extended period of time.

I don't know how you assemble an AR-15 once you get on a roof, but it's not something that takes a nanosecond. It's clear. This was a Lee Hop, a let it happen on purpose, that at the end of it, you'd have your dead patsy.

Oh, it was incompetence. They were understaffed. Horse crap. You don't understaff and have the best vantage point of the president, not only unmanned, but unsupervised. It was a let it happen on purpose. And at the end, some heads would roll. Oh, incompetence.

You'll go, whatever. Meanwhile, they would have gotten exactly what they wanted. It was a matter of days before the RNC. Trump hadn't been officially appointed yet. He hadn't nominated his VP yet. This was the time and that kid, but for the grace of God. Donald Trump was supposed to be in prison,

but the Supreme Court sided with Donald Trump on presidential immunity. But the important factor, while most legal analysts expected that there would be some degree of immunity for Donald Trump, what I don't think anyone expected was that they would additionally add in their ruling that you could not use president actions, presidential actions, official, official acts as evidence of other wrongdoing. Right. Which, again, no one expected would undermine the New York hush money case and then delay the sentencing of Donald Trump,

he would be in prison. He would not have been able to go to the convention. They would have held him back. And that failed. Now, that being said, I don't know what that means. And it certainly doesn't mean that all of these Secret Service agents are in on anything. It doesn't mean that the local law enforcement or anything. It doesn't mean anything other than, like you said, let it happen on purpose.

And all that it would require for that to be the case is a single logistics person intentionally saying, don't worry, guys, we've covered every every vantage point location and ignoring one. But again, I don't know. I don't know. I read a report that said that Secret Service policy is not to shoot until shots have been fired. I've been told that's nonsense. That seems totally insane. Well, and also to your point, you know, if he had to assemble his weapon on that roof, surely someone would have noticed this.

Or did he have to get back down and get a weapon and then climb up again? Like whatever happened here is actually concerning because it seems like there was, we know there was too much time, but also it doesn't seem like it was subtle, right? It's not like he was in all white and hiding on the roof for three days. I mean, it really seems like people watch this person

climb up and down the roof. And speaking of logistics, I also think it'll be interesting to get in, though. Apparently we can't get into his phone. You can only hack phones if you're, you know. No, they did. It's been reported they got in, but they can't find anything. Like there's nothing in it. Right. I think it's an interesting logistical oversight, though, on the shooter's part to even assume that a roof that's less than 150 yards away from where President Trump was speaking to assume that it would even be unsecured. That seems like just an oversight if you had really been planning this out. And frankly, I think there's a lot of similarities to just the whether it's oddities. I think that's sort of the age old question of the Biden regime.

Right. Is it intentional or is it a result of incompetence? But with the way Secret Service conducted themselves when it came to the January 6th pipe bomb incident, right? The footage that was released via Tom Massey showing them, despite some big pipe bomb being there, that Secret Service is just, you know, sitting in the car. They're letting a gaggle of school children walk in front of it. The Capitol Police officers taking a picture of it

and then going back into the car. And I think it's just sort of a pattern of very interesting behavior that we should not be expecting from the secret service you made a really good point this guy how did he know yeah that building would be available to him there was a ladder seen in one photo how i mean if he showed up to this rally and was walking around at acting suspicious, reportedly they reported him. Nobody took any action in order for that security breach to have occurred. He was walking around with a weapon in a bag or on his person and then got

lucky and found this building. Where did the ladder come from? How was a building not secured with a direct line of sight staging area for law enforcement, right? So I think it's pretty obvious that I don't think you need to be a law enforcement professional to say that the law enforcement and secret service and security failed here on every level i think it's a very scary thing of what it says that one determined person can do and be able to accomplish allegedly

on their own to uh one of the most famous people on planet earth somebody who's supposed to have some of the best secret service protection on planet earth i don't know what that says for people who don't have secret service protection i don't know what that says for you um other u.s representatives because again this was allegedly just one motivated person and if this is what one motivated person could do i don't know what that says for the security and and state of our country with the current political climate um what you'll hear from the left is trump is hitler and if you were able to kill baby hitler um do you think there's a manifesto i i i cannot i there is no logical path to say a single person who was determined was able to scout out a location during Secret Service detail and was able to find a ladder to climb on top of a building, encountering three law

enforcement officers who at no point called it in. And then two minutes from the crowd screaming, he's on the roof and got a gun. Not a single person got tripped off the stage. I cannot follow that logic. There's so much law enforcement logic that can't be followed look what happened at uvalde right you know we see this all the time police officers go out there and then they completely fail that's that that may be uvalde can be explained by cowardice total can be explained by cowardice this can't you don't think you can argue that there was a 26 you can argue the 26 minutes beforehand when they saw this guy the first time they just were confused and stupid and it was stupidity. But I don't see how you argue that two minutes and one second before Trump was literally shot.

There's video of people screaming. He's got a gun. He's got a gun. And not one, not one law enforcement said, pull Trump, get him off the stage. We saw a man rush the stage. They just jump a barricade and they and they grabbed Trump and pulled him off stage. This was a man for two whole minutes. People were screaming. He's got a gun and nothing happened. It is just it's it's inconceivable to channel the guy from Princess Bride. It's inconceivable. And the also the fact that he got off so many shots.

I mean, it's like, even if the issue was 20 seconds, they see this guy on the roof and the guy, you see the sniper with his gun on him. It's inconceivable, all of it. This kid's just walking around with a gun and then says, oh, that roof is available. I'm going to take this opportunity.

Where did the ladder come from? No, well, apparently the ladder might have been affixed to the building. I don't know. Maybe it was left over from the stage. Perhaps. Perhaps. I mean, it's a steel man's head.

Fine. The dude's on a building, on a roof, in a prone position. They know it for an extended period of time. He takes out a gun, gets several shots off before they finally take him out. It's inconceivable. It's called fractal wrongness. Nobody can be that wrong, and there can't be that many mistakes on accident in a sequence. It has to be a legal. The police and Secret Service can seriously be that incompetent.

They didn't have a drone in the area. They had no aerial overview. And and it's it's upsetting. And I think it's it's frightening. Again, what as of now, we're told only one motivated person can do the damage. One motivated person can do to our political system because we would be on the precipice of civil of a civil war if uh trump was a centimeter tilted otherwise have you seen the reports that uh and i can't confirm this i don't know but i just saw one report saying that secret service might have been divided between the trump event and the jill secret service debunked that okay that's good because it is interesting to think that like they they've been doing this for how long i mean they were originally founded to uh to fight counterfeiting in in the u.s but then they've had this job

forever and they still don't seem to know we have to station everybody on rooftops i mean it is bizarre to me that there would be an open rooftop that there wasn't you know 130 yards away i don't understand this is for people with secret service what does that say most politicians don't have secrets i don't have secrets. I don't think any senators or maybe majority leaders. But like Secret Service is very rare. Former presidents, former first ladies and current candidates and like presumptive nominees. RFK Jr. doesn't even have secret.

Well, did you see Trump? He got it now. Well, yeah. Trump today was like, you really need to give RFK Jr. Secret Service. He has it. Mayorkas came out and was like, you really need to give RFK Jr. secret service. He hasn't. Mayorkas came out and was like, all right, we'll do it. He was like, because Biden has asked me to, I will do it. Which I find fascinating, right?

It has to be like... Biden is now taking orders from Trump. It's to show unity. Now Biden's making concessions. He's going to protect the people that he wants dead. And now's the time. Let's show this photo real quick. Unbelievable. I look at that.

I know at this point, many people have seen all of these photos. I think this one's going to get a Pulitzer. We have this picture from Donald Trump. And you can see the bullet. That's the bullet that hit him. I would say with 90% certainty. Because it's the first shot that rings out where Trump grabs the side of his head. And then drops down so this shot going out is before he even reached for his ear which is

likely the shot that pierced through his ear so i just wanted to show that there's a lot of people on on x liberals and democrats trying to argue that trump wasn't shot he was hit by glass a piece of glass they claim the teleprompter was was struck and the glass hit trump would that be any better the teleprompters are in and the glass hit Trump. Would that be any better? The teleprompters were intact completely. There's numerous photos and video. The teleprompters are totally fine. They're lying to diminish this because they don't want Trump to appear strong. Even Cenk Uygur said Trump looked like a badass. He did look like a badass. But let's ask this question. We'll jump to this story. We have this from End Wokeness. Lester Holt says, you called your opponent an existential threat and said to put Trump in a bullseye. Biden says, I didn't say crosshairs. Before we play the clip, I'll show you this. Dan Goldman saying on MSNBC, Trump has to be eliminated. When he said this, we all collectively were like, stop. You can't say that. We were very critical of it.

Then you have the Steve guest tweeting Joe Biden on July 8th, 2024. He said, I have one job, and that's to beat Donald Trump. I'm absolutely certain I'm the best person to be able to do that. So we're done talking about the debate. It's time to put Trump in a bullseye, Biden said. He said that resulted in this. You called your opponent an existential threat on a call a week ago. You said it's time to put Trump in the bullseye. There's some dispute about the context, but I think you appreciate that word better.

I didn't say crosshairs. I was talking about focus on. Look, the truth of the matter was, what I guess I was talking about at the time was, there was very little focus on Trump's agenda. Yeah, the term is bullseye it was a mistake to use where i didn't i didn't say crosshairs i've been bullseye and focus on it it was a mistake he says i swear he was about to say i would say i didn't write that post because i don't actually think he manages on social media so we've seen rhetoric from democrats and even

right now actually i think i may have one of these tweets still. If I may just highlight, that is so patently absurd of an explanation. A bullseye is shooting something in the center of the target. And his explanation was that they weren't putting enough attention on the Trump campaign. They've been trying to put this guy in jail for three years now. The agenda 2025 has been on the radar for the last three it's such a lie but they use that rhetoric dan goldman has blood on his hands for what he said earlier i mean we were all railing on him when he said that they know damn well what they're doing they are putting out the political permission slip the dog whistle for their lunatic lefties to carry out the wishes of their masters and one person they did it in 2020 they did it in 2016 or not 2016 but you remember when uh maxine waters told told people to go confront trump officials and trump admin

people wherever they were and tell them they're not welcome and then that happened sarah i'll be pushed out of a waffle house i'm gonna try to be a little bit principled here i don't think that uh dan goldman has blood on his hands uh i don't think this rhetoric is even that inflammatory. I mean, I think we hear much more inflammatory things pretty regularly, and I don't think this is what led that guy to do what he did. And if it were, I mean, I still think his actions speak for themselves, not rhetoric like this, because if we held that standard across the board, I'm sure we could pretty quickly find stuff that, you know,

we could attach a lot of alleged killings to. I completely, completely disagree. This show, particularly prime time, one of the top shows on YouTube in its slot. And we say all the time not to broach that. I have complained about people who come on the show and make allusions to violence as they do not do it. You cut them off. We've we I mean, I admire you going above and beyond for it look that one's obvious okay we don't want to get banned but i also do get very upset when people think it's okay and to make direct allusions to violence now i get it if you say fight fight fight oh come on we know

what that means if aoc says we're gonna get out there and fight we know what it means and i'm not even that concerned necessarily about maxine water saying get out there and confront. It's like you're getting a little close on the line. Joe Biden saying, put him in a bullseye, okay, is the line. Okay, I can understand where it's like there may be some rhetoric there, turn of phrase. But you cannot have Joe Biden, you cannot have George Takei, who just came out, and all these Democrats saying things like he needs to be eliminated. He's an existential threat. He's a threat to democracy. He's Hitler, etc., etc.,

and not expect people who engaged in the worst riots in 50 years to do something like this. Now, this man who took the shot at Donald Trump is 20 years old. Since he was 12, he has been inundated with a constant barrage of these media personalities and Democrats saying Donald Trump is Hitler. What is a young person developing in their mind? What are they going to see? The rhetoric is clear. The creation in this person's mind is clear. What happens?

This is why we can't have that kind of language. I think it's a dangerous. First, I want to come out and say I admire and commend you for trying to help tone down the rhetoric with many of your guests that come on and have a line in the sand. I do think some of Joe Biden's and some of the Democrats, and I'm sure it's not limited to them. I'm sure there's many Republicans who use aggressive rhetoric, definitely contribute to a political climate that is hotter and more likely to have something boil over. But I think it strips the person of his agency if we're just saying, you know, this is what caused him to do it. I don't think this is a direct call for violence, brings up up the temperature but i think it's a dangerous standard to hold them

to and i mean i think at this point we should reference jd vance right he was the one who said afterwards this wasn't an isolated incident the biden hair can't harris campaign has been pushing this idea that there will be political violence for a long time i don't know that there's one tweet that sent someone off again unless we get some sort of manifesto or diary entry that says this is exactly it with a citation. But it is a culture that has definitely been pushed that there is tension coming and everyone needs to be prepared. I would respectfully push back, too, because I think when you hear those heated clips coming from right wing media, I'm sure Steve Bannon probably has a lot of those moments that they are always taking out of context. We are always very precise and particular with how you channel that energy and you always hear right-wing commentators telling people

to get involved on the grassroots level and to make that change happen within the political system in contrast when you have people like this go on there and say things like put them in a bullseye put them in the crosshairs not even sure that that's that much better or just year after year media cycle after media cycle just getting this pent-up anger making people angry there's no outlet for it other than political violence on may 29th 2020 thousands of far-left extremists firebombed the white house grounds they fire they set fire to saint john's church don Donald Trump was forced into a bunker, an emergency bunker, and the collective media and Democratic apparatus insulted him over it. They mocked him. They called him bunker boy and bunker baby. A hundred plus law enforcement officers were injured in those riots.

Photos coming out from D.C. and aerial view of smoke rising around the Capitol, like the White House and the Capitol, are shocking. This was four years ago. And now here we are with the rhetoric has not stopped. And even after this, George Takei tweeted, Donald Trump is an existential threat, but we'll defeat him with ballots, not bullets. I'm sorry, but that rhetoric does not make sense. There's two messages there. An existential threat means we will cease to exist if he succeeds and what what that message sends whether it's intentional or not and i don't

care what his intention is what i'm concerned about is someone just tried and nearly killed donald trump which would rip this country asunder and and now this man is saying if if we don't win we won't exist anymore. What is the response to that statement? Well, George Takei should be deplatformed, not for like I'm not an anti free speech person whatsoever. He knows damn well what he's doing. I just want to say also, Tim, it wouldn't have just plunged America into turmoil had that bullet been one millimeter. World War One started with a random friends of Ferdinand being assassinated.

This would have driven the world into World War three trying to would have said well the US is in turmoil now let's take Taiwan anyway no no not that not as bad as that this bullet would have been we're already edging no for sure but this bullet would have been the modern-day France Ferdinand bullet I don't want to pick on you any more than everyone else has but also it's when Trump said bloodbath, referring to an economic situation, the media went ape poop on him. They still

are. Biden talked about it in this Lester Holt interview. It's not that. You don't think Trump said anything crazier than we'll put him in the crosshairs? We'll put him in the bullseye? I'm sure he said something that is a better allusion towards violence than this. I'll guarantee you he didn't, because if he did, if they did, they would have

used it against his impeachment. Stand back, stand by, fight like hell. I mean, those are the things that they tried to impeach him for saying for having said because that incited violence. So it's not only that the right doesn't do it when the right even comes close and skirts the line, they get raked over the coals by the media. These people, they know exactly

what they're doing. Goldman knows exactly what he's doing and they do have blood on their hands. Well, and I think to, you know, to give some reason to a Lodz argument here, I just don't think

Joe Biden wrote this, right? That's a loose standard for blood on his hands, I feel like, respectfully. No, no, I know, but I happen to believe these are dog whistles. They know damn well

what they're doing and when we say, we gotta beat them at the ballot box, not with bullets, they know exactly what they're saying and they're giving

a political permission slip for any lunatic who goes... Is that to say you think this rhetoric should be illegal? No, it shouldn't be illegal, but it should certainly be... No, because these are not true threats and I don't think it should be illegal. There should be political sanctions. I think some of these things could be impeachable.

At the very least, there should be a uniform standard. Fight like hell, gets impeached, horse crap. I think just call their bluffs that we don't want unity with you because I guarantee you if in that same interview you were to ask Dan Goldman, oh, so you want unity with Trump? You're good with unity? They would say, hell no, we don't want unity. This guy's

an existential threat. We want you dead, but we just can't say it. But they just can't say it. And that's why I think we need to forcibly reject this whole unity narrative. Not that I'm not calling for violence or anything like that, but it's a scam. It's a lie. Unity has always been a euphemism for frankly i think submission crawling back the victories that grassroots maga have made but whatever whatever this is whatever you think it is or however it went down this man failed unfortunately he took the life

life of cory comparator and severely injured several others who people are chatting about. So he did still cause harm. And a lot of people say he missed. And they're mocking the idea. And I just want to stress this. They're not just talking about Trump. Even Trump said, they're not after me, they're after you. I'm just in the way in this instance when the bullet did miss trump it still hit several good

people who were just at an event to hear what he had to say and so in the broader sense the man didn't miss he hit several people who he hated now that being said the the failure to stop donald trump frank luntz came he's a famous poll. He said he was asked by numerous media outlets what this means. And he said, every Trump supporter is now a Trump voter. Done. And that's the equivalent of a one to two point We will see. And what that means is we have to have equality under the law. We have to have Donald Trump prove to the American people there is a law that exists and you must adhere to it. Because what makes me angry, what drives me and makes me want Trump to win is the abuse of the system by Democrats, with the most egregious so far being that Steve Bannon has gone to prison and Merrick Garland has skirted the law and the Democrats are laughing about it. They called they called Anna Paulina stupid for trying to uphold the law because Merrick Garland broke the law.

And I am furious that we cannot get that justice. And I hope that what we see with Donald Trump, and I'm not even convinced we'll get it, is that he simply appoints a good doj and they say we are going to reaffirm our commitment to justice to the legal process and the law and hold those accountable who have skirted the law and broken the rules i just to say something on the unity yeah the idea you literally just tried to kill me unify go straight i won, I won't swear on your show, go bless yourself. But the issue is, I think there will be a lasting unity out of this in what we're seeing with RFK Jr. and Trump. Unity among rational, reasonable Americans that are going to be the ones who are going to make the difference. You don't unify with the devil. You don't unify with your enemy. Biden and his ilk are the enemy in a political sense.

But there will be unity among the people that is going to have the impact of defeating those people. I think what we're seeing already, the gas has been removed from the uniparty machine because regular people are scared of violence. They do not want this. And they are correct in not wanting this. The far left and many of the more, I don't know, wacky Democrats who have been advocating for violence or saying things like they're sad that the guy missed, Kyle Gass of Today's Just Thee on stage saying he wished the guy wouldn't miss or something to that effect.

Regular people don't like this, and they're scared. But the mainstream media knows it, and that's why they pulled Morning Joe, right? CNN was breaking that they, which is it for at least for the next week, that Morning Joe, we call it Morning Mika on the War Room, is off air. And it really is funny. I watched some of MSNBC's coverage this morning. The title of it is like the most drab thing you could get. It's like emergency coverage of assassination attempt. And they have two of the most like low energy looking journalists that i've ever seen hosting the show and they keep bringing on historians as guests they're like obviously not trying to touch it with a 10-foot pole right they're trying to keep it very apolitical in their coverage because they know that they they even know

that they can't put any of their guests on without creating some viral you know soundbite or clip of them probably calling for similar acts like this. I want to jump to the story from the Daily Mail. Under fire. ABC News host George Stephanopoulos suggests Trump is to blame for violent rhetoric after assassination attempt. During Sunday's episode of ABC's This Week, Stephanopoulos and chief global affairs anchor Martha Raddatz discussed the current political environment. Raddatz discussed conspiracy theories that President Biden caused the horrific attack and noted a tweet from J.D. Vance that Biden's rhetoric led to the attack. Quote, of course, President Trump and his supporters have contributed to this violent rhetoric as well, Stephanopoulos said, blaming Donald Trump. I reject this and I don't accept it.

Republicans, many on the right, they don't protest. It is rare to see Republicans get up and do anything. Now, of course, there certainly is some rhetoric, but as I always explain to people, it's an inversion. You have prominent Democrat and liberal personalities openly calling for violence. Let's go back in time. Punch a Nazi. Everyone remembers that. How about the Covington kids? That one guy, I can't remember which guy, I think it was a Disney employee, I'm not sure, I could be wrong, posted a picture of a wood chipper. Reza Aslan said that he insinuated he wanted to punch that kid in the face,

that the kid had a punchable face. And then some people on the right, some, sometimes, say say negative things but it's an aversion most prominent right personalities say no violence stop we don't want this we can't have this i i think it's even beyond talking about online i mean who attacked the congressional baseball game right like didn't run paul get attacked by a democrat right so like this is something that we haven't it hasn't happened in a vacuum it's not like this is something that we haven't it hasn't happened in a vacuum. It's not like this is the only time that the scales have tips. I mean, we always reference the summer of 2020, but really this boiling energy that's been there has actually

spilled over the pot a couple of times. And it's not typically the narrative that the media wants to talk about. I think that we take for granted that America is a safe country and things like this happen other places. Like when you saw Mexico's election, there were all these reports of assassinations and it was like, oh, that's a crazy place. But what we have is fragile and we have to protect it. And I just don't think that's the messaging we've gotten from the Biden campaign. Right. They've talked about political violence. They keep showing clips of things they think went wrong in the past. They use fear to try and inspire their voters. It's not a peaceful party. And I think you see that demonstrated more than we really acknowledge because, again, we sort of are numb to it. I think it's important to see while some Democrats are trying to moderate some of their language. I think it's important to remember that I actually. Back in the 80s, Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery were budding filmmakers working together at a hip Los Angeles video store called Video Archives.

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but many in the far left, many at the base of the party, actually do hate Donald Trump to the core of his soul and do believe that he is a genocidal, fascist, Hitler-esque figure that does need to be taken out. And unfortunately,

it's not an uncommon thought to think like that. These people are unhappy that the shots missed Donald Trump. I was actually interviewing some people today on the march on the RNC who specifically said it's a shame that the person missed. I don't think that's uncommon. And it's important to recognize the vitriol and deep seated hate these people have. What are many on? What is it? What is have for many on the right. What does everybody on the right said about Joe Biden?

He should retire. Yeah. He should go be with his family. I've seen it from all of these prominent personalities. Dan Bongino. Joe Biden should be sitting at home with his family. Surrounded by his grandkids. Yep.

Yep. That seems good. What an amazing, what an amazing. But also, aren't the ones on the left, aren't the ones, the leftists are always the ones saying that the right is engaging in stochastic terror, right? Stochastic terrors. Isn't that basically what they're doing? Yes. It's the iron law of woke projection.

Right. It's James Lindsay's term. That's the one. All the, and I grew up. They just keep doing the same thing that they accuse everyone on the right of doing. I reject the concept of stochastic terrorism. I think it's a different thing than direct. I agree with you.

But I mean, we were kind of talking about. Here they are doing the exact same thing, you know, as they're accusing people on the right of always doing and they're doing this and they're saying, but we should get a pass because it's just political language. And the White House even said that they weren't going to stop. Stochastic terrorism is a real thing. It's just to what degree is it ubiquitous? The left says it's everywhere. It's everywhere all the time, nonstop. But the general concept of what it really means is, oh, won't someone rid me of this meddlesome priest? since 2016, like almost 10 years, they really have gone to lengths to define domestic extremism as

basically MAGA supporters and January 6th type rioters. And again, who knows, incompetence, intentional, something funky happened at that rally. But when you look at the, I mean, billions, probably when you add it up, it's probably trillions of dollars that have been poured into these anti-domestic extremism efforts and the way that that word has been reformulated to really just be synonymous and analogous with trump supporters no wonder why this guy would slip through the cracks right because he doesn't really fit their definition of what it means to be a domestic extremist in the sense that he wasn't someone who was you you know, walking around a Joe Biden rally holding up Trump signs. And I'm not saying that they they missed him.

But I think that that's an if you look at a cultural systemic shift that has been happening inside these, you know, Secret Service operates under the auspices of DHS, the very same DHS that behind closed doors is weaponizing against MAGA, is holding secret meetings with, you know know social media companies to censor us they don't think people who are shooting at Trump are that doesn't really fit their domestic terrorism narrative right they're not shit posting on Twitter this guy wasn't yeah I guess he wasn't on domestic terrorists can't donate to act blue they just wouldn't he wouldn't set off any of their their radars because they're they have made domestic terrorism domestic extremism something that is wholly different from what it should be.

I've had this. It's a recent theory that I have is that, you know, we grew up with the term liberalism is a mental disorder. I've always heard it as a kid, never fully understood it until now. But I look at the Democrat Party and they have no qualms and a total propensity to exploiting the mentally vulnerable, the mentally ill for political profit, like they did with Greta Thunberg, like they did with Fetterman. Just anybody.

It doesn't even matter if he's mentally unwell. Just get him in there. You left Joe Biden off the list. Well, and Joe Biden now. Just prop up a weekend at Bernie's. They will exploit the fragile, the infirmed for political profit, and they use the mentally ill

and the mentally unwell as their strong arm, as their thugs on the street, to promote and push and instill terror for those who don't follow their politics. And so the left's propensity and the Democrats with a capital D to use people who are clearly mentally unwell. I saw the counter protest. Anybody saying I wished he was just he was, you know, he wasn't off target has a mental problem. And I mean, probably a diagnosable one. And they use them as tools for political profit and we're seeing it now but it's it's it's they accuse others of what

they are doing themselves it's nazi propaganda going back to gobles you you made a point a while ago uh viva that if donald trump were to have been hit it's it's world war it's it's they don't know the hell they are ushering in because it would be the most, not demoralizing. The JFK assassination was graphic. And this was broad daylight, live streamed, real time HD. There would have been, I mean, I won't use the word. It would have been a not America the day after. But for the grace of God, it looks like people are going to actually be unified as opposed to all hell breaking loose.

The political instability likely would have resulted in... Thousand percent. The moves we'd end up seeing from Russia, from China, would be drastic. And it would lead to a chain of events that I think would create massive international instability. And I highlight this point you made because these people who are online, they're young people. One video is a guy screaming at the top of his lungs saying, how could you miss? How could you miss?

They don't know or care. Now, we can say that's a mental disorder, but I also think the problem is it is a failed generation. It is not that these people's brains are not functioning, like, you know, one plus two equals three exists in there. It's that the neural pathways were not constructed in their brains so they can understand the structure of the planet

and what happens to them after the fact. They don't know or care. They are detached. This is behavioral sync to an extreme degree. If those of you are familiar with the rat utopia experiment, they want for things that result in their own death, which leads to the destruction of a species.

Because I still buy the current story out that it was just a lone wolf shooter. It is really unsettling in how much more political violence I unfortunately foresee this leading to. Shinzo Abe, the former prime minister of Japan, was assassinated not too long ago. And again, there's a short list of people on the Secret Service. Most reps and senators and governors are accessible compared to the way Trump was. So one motivated person could do so much damage to our fragile democracy. I sound like a Democrat saying that. That's true.

And as an aside, just if you want to talk later, I can get you a real good price on the Brooklyn Bridge. No, it's one dedicated person would spend weeks scoping it out, finding the weakness. What did he do? Show up and say, hey, that roof is unattended. I'm going to go back to my car and get my gun. I mean, that kid wasn't dedicated. That was lazy. And what if the roof wasn't available? Was he just going to take his best shot? Was he going to go back to my car and get my gun. I mean, it's, it's, that kid wasn't dedicated. That was lazy. And what if the roof wasn't available? Was he just going to take

his best shot? Was he going to just chill with his rifle? It is a, I don't know. I don't know. And by the way, if we start from a dedicated, crazy person found away, I'd be with you. But if we start from 26 minutes before he was reported, the police took a picture of him. A second officer saw him, took a picture

of him on the roof. Another officer encountered him on on the roof and then the man pointed a gun at him so he backed away two minutes before the shooting trump supporters are screaming in the audience he's got a gun he's got a gun and not one not one law enforcement called it in or did anything i like bro if you told me trump needed to just turn his head a little bit and would have his life would have been saved i I wouldn't believe you either. So if I'm buying that, I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I think that's how a lot of people feel.

I accept that. And he was shot through the ear and he has a wound through his ear. You can't shoot like that if you try to. That's where the divine intervention in this comes in. And I'm not a religious person, but I had just watched Pulp Fiction. And I'm like, if that's not an act of God, I don't know what is. I saw your post about Pulp Fiction. It was great. I remember I was watching it last week.

And then it happens. What we witnessed today was an absolute miracle that prevented the world from descending into World War III. Did you guys see this new thing so elon musk is promised to donate 45 million dollars per month to to like a trump backing super pass because he had don't he endorsed five million is he tweeting this now or what yeah it's just breaking the wall street journal right now i sent you a link to him have they not pissed off elon musk he might not have gotten so involved he endorsed trump what within 20 minutes of everything happening i mean as the world turned out, he was like, I'm with Trump. And that's an incredibly powerful statement from this guy who had sort of tried to stay a little bit neutral.

Yeah, but then he realized it was existential. We got this story from the Wall Street Journal breaking. Elon Musk has said he is committing around $45 million a month to a new pro-Trump super PAC. Other backers of America PAC include Palantir Technologies co-founder Joe Lonsdale and the Winklevoss twins. Wow. And they had supported,

I mean, they came out a couple weeks ago on Trump's side. I mean, it is fascinating to see that this is becoming an issue that's bigger than just, oh, elites in the cities vote this way and rural people vote this way. Well, it's interesting.

Elon Musk's evolution on this has been organic and you could see the trajectory. In the early stages when he bought Twitter, everyone's like, cynical. Is he going to be free speech or not? And whether or not he's second best to rumble as far as I'm concerned, that's a close second best and it's a good place to be. But they went after Elon Musk

and he saw what they did to him in Delaware. He saw what the governments were trying to do to him in Brazil. And now he says, F it. This is not just a war against Trump. This is not just a war against Trump. This is not just a war against me. This is a war against the Western values as we know them. And holy, 45 million bucks a month. That'll buy you a lot of ad space, a lot of grassroots ground support.

I mean, I can't do the math fast enough, but we've got, what, four months to go? I mean, it's an insane amount of money. 200 and, damn it, 225 million. So he's going to donate a quarter of a billion dollars in support of Trump. Like, that's an insane amount of money. Two hundred and... Damn it. Two hundred and twenty-five million? So he's going to donate a quarter of a billion dollars. That's an insane number. I can't even believe we've reached that level. But I do think you're right. I think with Elon Musk, what I find so interesting is that he is an inspirational character to so many.

I mean, he's really done a lot with his life. But also, he's sort of a mystery. People don't always know where his loyalties are. People don't always know exactly what his values are. Has a ton of children, seems to have them with lots of people. There's stuff that it isn't orthodox conservatism, so to speak. And it does seem like it is his values and worldview starting to align with the things that people are saying. If we can only take a certain certain things forward into the future with us these are what they want to be we want them to be free speech we want them to be securities and we want them to be a certain level of honesty from all of these

pillars of society well nine kids with multiple women it might not be conservative values but gosh that's freedom okay the freedom to go around and spread your seed yeah no it's amazing like a big part of his point? Isn't he like, I don't know, I was just making a joke. He was early days like the birth rate is collapsing and we need to do something. Stop talking about the population. He's like putting his self where his mouth is.

He's putting his seed where his mouth is, which is, yeah. He is personally going to turn around our birth rate, but the reality is that was a conversation people weren't open to having not even because they were against it because they were like that's so weird and abstract. Like when Elon Musk gets behind something, you know, it's

actually leading you in an interesting and probably you know, important direction. He doesn't talk about things just because you know, he's feeling like it. He talks about them because he feels as though they are going to have a major impact. Then he goes and does the thing.

That's true. Then he has 12 children. What are the rest of you doing? I don't. 12 children, rocket ships, cyber trucks. I think Wednesday we're going to get the updated polls and it's going to be tremendous for Trump. I think in aggregate we might see him up four or five points. And that's me being conservative.

But I got to be be honest if we saw an aggregate aggregate polling showing trump at plus nine i would not be surprised yeah it wouldn't be the down ballot consequences are what's going to be very significant here so big pickups in the senate and on house is what's going to be huge well and also they stopped they basically uh halted the movements to replace biden like okay that's it i don't know why they would do that actually to me right now, it'd be like, okay, well, now we've got nothing to lose,

so get him out. We'll see how that plays out. I'm still betting that it won't be Biden on the ticket, but... Why do you think it won't be? Because what if they... You think he's just going to fail that much? I think there might be a coup.

Well, okay, if I go like really... They've been working on the coup. That's why he said that bullseye thing to a bunch of donors a week before the assassination attempt. Maybe they can impeach him now and remove him and then replace him with somebody else. It would have to be Congress to impeach him. And Republicans wouldn't vote for that.

Well, OK, there's a there's that through the end. But, you know, if we want to go like real tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, let's go for it. I don't like putting this juju out in the universe, but a retaliatory attack on Kamala and Biden from a far right extremist. This is a terrible. No, it's a terrible plan. But they are evil. And if they've got nothing left to lose, false flags galore. See, I think the desperation from the DNC to sort of get away from this replace Biden narrative is interesting to factor in. I mean, nothing was changing the story.

We were talking about Biden's gaffe. We were going back through old footage. He was making, you know, Vice President Trump and President Putin comments like he couldn't stop it. Like, this is really the only thing that has somewhat changed the media's attention. And so I think you're right there. You know, you could take this into a very, very dark place. And it's just not for me to speculate about who and why and where. But I think in the Biden campaign needed the narrative to change really badly. And this is one of the issues they now have with messaging, right, because they have been so divisive.

They can't now come back and say, like, just kidding. We think Trump's an OK guy. Like you saw this this thing when he announced, you know, when they announced that J.D. Vance was vice president. I'm sure I'll talk about this more later. But Biden has a statement pretty readily available. He was it was it was there. I mean, how long did it take him to respond to the attack in Pennsylvania a lot longer. It's obvious to me that all of this is something that the Biden campaign was both not prepared for and also are completely out of control. What I wonder what will happen when the polls come out

is how far down he will fall. It's not just that Trump will surge, it's that Biden will become more unpopular because they cannot figure out how to get their narrative back on track. I just want to say one thing because I know Tim's sensitive to it. And as am I.

Anybody calling for retaliatory, whatever, is fed or fed adjacent, disown them, disavow them and get the hell away from them because there's no need for it. And it would never be the right thing in the first place because you do not defeat the monster by becoming the monster. You've just replaced the monster. That's right. And predicted right now, Donald Trump, 68 cents to win. That's about 68 to win joe biden at 26 cents camel at 12 but uh trump is two

to one the favorite right now in the predicted betting market speaking of fed something i thought was interesting i watched joe biden's um address yesterday and when he was like rattling off the various uh other acts of political violence course, not missing the opportunity to condemn the spread of misinformation and insist that foreign actors were trying to meddle in our democracy. I don't know about you, but I noticed he didn't bring up the Michigan kidnapping hoax. No, he brought it up. Oh, he did? He brought up Whitmer. He didn't bring up January 6th there were a lot of events that i would have thought that he would have brought up but they sort of hammered in on no pun intended on uh certain events that he purposely didn't

mention and are you sure he mentioned maybe he did i i think he mentioned i think he mentioned both maybe i i was listening to it and i was looking for it and he didn't anyways we'll we can look after but anyways i thought that that speech was just very it was an interesting vibe for him to strike if he even knew what he was saying. Yeah, that's the other thing with everything. Like we go comb through Biden's social media history. I stand by he does not. He cannot operate Twitter.

He can barely operate the stairs, you know, like he is not actually writing any of these posts. He's not like Trump, who is like, oh, I can't be on Twitter anymore. I will start my own media company. Like, it's very different. And so you were mentioning earlier, like the concept of or the potential for it to be dog whistles. I mean, that would be an internal staffing issue. Right. That would mean whoever's in charge of putting these tweets out is saying, like, I'm going to give some spicy language. It would further indicate that Biden is not in control of the ship he's theoretically captaining.

And it's to the detriment of the country. I also think that sometimes why he comes off so discombobulated obviously part of it is the the cognitive decline but you know trump speaks for himself right trump is best when he is unfettered pure raw trump and biden is i feel like this weird collection of just a bunch of different advisors and like weird staffers who probably deep down all have very different political leanings. Right. And it comes out in this weird amalgamation that is like a Joe Biden speech. So he has probably all these voices right in his head of different people advising him. And that's why he's like, well, I didn't mean bullseye. I meant crosshair. You know, it's like it's competing voices telling him what to say, whereas Trump can be so on message and so direct because

he thinks for himself. Right. He can make his own picks with Joe Biden. It's like a little bit of this wing of the Democratic Party, a little bit of this. So I was just on the phone five minutes with this guy before I spoke. So you get this weird mixture of gobbledygook, as Steve would say. Trump was at the rally before he got shot. He was saying, I'm going to go off prompter. Do you mind? Like, I hate it when I do it,

but these prompters are so boring. And he just talked to the crowd, and he's funny. Yeah. I mean, that's his biggest asset of all. I mean, even the fact that there was a prop on stage, and he's gesticulating. I mean, you know, we can never say, but some of these things seem to have played

into what saved his life. And I think that there's just, there was always sort of a very clear contrast between trump and biden you know no one was mistaking them for each other they aren't two politicians who are polished and poisoned the same way uh it really feels like now it's even more pronounced in part because trump is rallying the country forward and biden is slowly disintegrating in front of us yeah and uh one of the crazy things, and again about this, obviously every part of this is really crazy,

but before the shooting, before the attempted assassination, it was just a regular Trump rally. Everything was going well. Well, you were there. I wanted to tell you guys a funny little story where I feel so ambivalent about. I was actually covering the Trump rally

for TimCast News. I was there a couple of hours on Twitter before the shooting. And then I remember getting a notification saying the Trump rally was in Butler, Pennsylvania. But then I got a notification saying, oh, Jill Biden's having a campaign event for Joe Biden. I'm just an hour away. And I thought, I've covered dozens of Trump rallies. They're actually kind of boring after you hear the same spiel, talk to all the Trump supporters and whatnot. So I head out to go to this Jill Biden campaign rally.

I ended up speaking to some supporters. I thought I got some great coverage there. I leave there. I see on Twitter as I'm driving out towards Milwaukee of the horrible news about Trump a couple of hours out. Obviously, the story is not about me. It was a crazy series of events. And I mean, it was definitely interesting being on staff because our executive editor, Chris Card, reached out to me being like, can you jump on your laptop? Like, we got to get some stuff out.

And I knew you had been there. And there was a moment where I was like, do I need to text a lot right now? Like, is he is he OK? And then I saw I have my phone. And the last tweet you'd put over what was coming. My feed was like something from Joe Biden. Did you see that? I'm Aaron Ruppar, right, who obviously covers like every Trump rally ever. This is the only rally that he decided to take off so he could go to a concert with his mom.

Can I am I think I just put something together. The Jill and Kamala thing was the same day at the same time as as Trump simultaneously. And that would be the explanation for why secret service was divided was divided which they say no i don't believe it's true well just add add that appreciate that biden's uh live speech last night i'll put it in quotes because i don't know what evidence we have that it was live i agree with you i think it was pre-recorded because he had to take a number of takes to get that thing done but stick a little red live and then people will believe it it was supposed to be a eulogy. And it was supposed to be Biden saying,

this is a terrible tragedy. This is the result of Trump's terrible words. And we must unify as a nation right now. And then they would have chalked it up to the fact that, oh, well, the Secret Service and FBI was all split because we happen to have planned an event in the same state, a corrupt state, the same day that Trump is there? You've just confirmed it in my mind. This is definitely a Lee Hopp. And that was their alibi.

I would say that what I saw from Biden, without jumping to the tin hat thing, what I saw from Biden was an attempt to take the reins of leadership, which clearly had been ceded on Saturday afternoon to Donald Trump. Donald Trump looked like a leader. Biden did not. And so he spent that even through tonight's Lester Holt interview. Right. He has spent this whole time trying to get the spotlight back on himself or his team has been trying to do that. I don't know if Biden is aware of what's going on necessarily, but he's been trying to make himself, paint himself as the leader of this nation when what we saw on Saturday afternoon

is that he is not the leader of the United States. I like all the various ways the White House has tried to depict Biden as like leading what is ever happening at the White House. Like remember, it was probably a year ago, Politico had put out that big story where they were saying, Joe Biden is yelling at everyone in the west wing he's going on tirade screaming at people you know putting them in their place it was so obvious i think there was a report

like that this weekend before everything happened and it's just it's so interesting like the information warfare side of things how they try to go about depicting him as this for lack of a better word like alpha male who's you know running, running around the White House, running the show. And we know nothing could be further from the case. Before I jump to this next story, I just got to say props to Libby for that excellent slide ribbing at Viva. That was very, very funny. Libby, you remind me, I got to give credit to Robert Barnes for a lot of the theorizing that I've absorbed through osmosis. And last night we're doing our show and Barnes is talking like they picked Pennsylvania,

like the most corrupt state in which for this to happen. And now the FBI is going to go investigate themselves. What other state? Do it in Texas and see what happens in that investigation. I love how Texas sued Pennsylvania in 2020 for violating their own election laws. And the Supreme Court was like, nah, we're OK. Did you see Rhode Island? Oh, no.

Like Rhode Island put out that bizarre statement. They're like, we've looked into this and we have nothing to do with this. Thanks, Rhode Island. About the incident? Yeah. Okay. Rhode Island police. Let's jump to the story.

Ladies and gentlemen, from the Washington Post, Trump's classified documents case dismissed by Judge Eileen Cannon. Special Counsel Jack Smith says he will appeal the judge's ruling that he was improperly appointed. Trump won. The rich get richer. There's so many things lining up. Obviously, the assassination is not lining up,

but politically, the past month or so has been unbelievable for Donald Trump. I'm getting tired of winning. Really wild, yeah. Between the debate performance, obviously, surviving the assassination attempt defiantly in the fashion that he did resolve and hope and optimism and his shoes i feel like we didn't linger and talk enough about how you couldn't write have written in it better when he like came back up was willing to

yell fight not scared if hollywood was honest there'd be a film in the making already. And now that you know, they came for the king with so many different shots and none have hit and metaphorically. Teflon Don. You know, it's, you know, it's fascinating is, um, you guys watch the boys. I have been watching that show. I'm enjoying it. I watch it with my kids.

Is that the sequel to girls? Cause if it is a superhero show, but the, it's like supposed to be a parody of uh of superheroes so there's making fun of superheroes homelander is supposed to be superman and initially he wasn't trump but now like after like see like into season three they decided to make it trump versus hillary or something and so they're all just allusions to modern American politics. Like they outright say things like QAnon and make references to it. And they have rallies. But Homelander is supposed to be Trump.

And the way they depict him in this show is this evil, narcissistic guy with mommy issues. Crash and play. They would have people. Yeah. Right. And then lying about it and saying, you know, but evil running a corporation.

And they would have loved if when Donald Trump got shot, he panicked, crawled on the ground, stumbled on the stairs and ran shaking in a random direction. Instead, as the Secret Service is trying to pull him away, he resists, raises his fist and yells, fight, fight, fight.

Oh, it was great. Has anyone seen the movie Dead Zone with Christopher Walken? How old is that movie? Oh, as old as Methuselah. But that's how they got rid of Charlie Sheen's, is it Charlie Sheen's dad? What's his name? Martin Sheen. And, you know, I don't want to ruin the movie for everybody.

You mean President Bartlett? That's true! So true! So, in that movie, spoiler alert for anybody who hasn't seen it, it's a great movie, but it's a plotted assassination against a politician. The guy takes out a gun and the politician picks up a baby and uses it as a shield. A literal baby? A literal baby.

And he didn't even have to get killed, it was the point. His career was done after that and the guy who could see the future, Christopher Walken, dies knowing that he foiled World War whatever. Three. Trump's response. It makes me want to cry. It's absolute. It's you.

It's art, but it's real life. This is a man. He just took a bullet and he gets up and says, forget the shoes. The shoes. I was actually worried he might have hit his head and he's a little discombobulated. When people get hit in the head, they get a little defensive. I think he wanted to walk off that stage like a man. He says, wait, wait, wait, and puts up his fist with blood dripping from his...

For the crowd. That was for us. That was for the Americans. And I don't want to say imagine if it was another politician, but you can imagine someone saying, get me out of here and cover me, you a-holes. Well, to resist your own Secret Service who are like, we are leaving stage and he's like no and they can't make him right it's like he is doing something he's in the middle something and that's the thing about donald trump he has such a strong will there there's a reason that we say that there was a different response to him on

the geopolitical stage but it's this it was the selflessness of the act that he might in theory still have been at risk and he's like screw this i'm fighting for the country and i'll tell this if anybody didn't like donald trump before that and still doesn't like him now you're an idiot this is the when i saw this is what i thought if donald trump can take a bullet for you you can take the time to go and vote for him i hope people do i hope that's that as as franklin said the trump supporter has now become the trump voter guaranteed i hope so i think that's true i also think that this is a wake-up call for independence right i mean this is not a thing that you can just be on the fence about anymore and i think as the days play out as you see the contrasting administration and the responses uh it is something that you can't really say this didn't have an effect on me i didn't feel anything

i didn't i didn't look at donald trump uh with blood on his face standing up and as this crowd chants usa usa and think i'm just not going to go to the polls like everyone had a reaction to this i know we've been ragging on the secret service a lot, and a lot of people have been saying, like, oh, DEI, and they've been infiltrated by this ideology, but we need to be thankful that they're actually women's Secret Service, allowing for that photo to look so iconic with him not being covered by these six-foot-six men. He was like, you know, he was overshadowing this small female officer barely coming up to his waist

like holding on to him um so we have to thank um the secret service the dei just to go back to the topic at hand oh yeah donald trump's donald trump's victory in the classified documents case now there is a suggestion that they could bring the charges back but the lawfare that they're waging against trump when the view the washington post has of this okay that trump's argument succeeded that jack smith was improperly appointed an argument that many people made a while ago they're framing it as though it's it shouldn't have happened it's an odd thing the judge shouldn't have done this when we look at what they did to trump in New York, they created a new law that would allow someone to

sue Donald Trump for sexual impropriety. That's how he got there. They accused him of civil fraud, even though his lender said he didn't defraud us. He gave us the warnings outright and we like doing business with him. They go after him. All of that is abnormal. We call it out.

They say we're lying we're conspiracy theorists when donald trump actually succeeds and the judge says he's right this guy was improperly appointed the media is like well that's strange that shouldn't happen and it'll probably get the charges will probably come back anyway it's funny how they'll come back there you know it's it's an amazing thing i it might be too late to make this trend but it's white pill monday um and this is just the the third in the hat trick, J.D. Vance, this, but the one being he survived by a millimeter. The corruption is catching up with them in real time

because all of this was corrupt from day one. And E. Jean Carroll lobbying to change that law so that she could sue within the window of opportunity. And she is bat, she's guana crazy, that woman, and got away with it in a corrupt political system. The other New York case where Judge Marchand now has to suspend sentencing, if any, because they have to go back and revisit it

because of the immunity ruling a little while ago. The corruption's catching up in real time. Finally, you could say the judiciary is doing their job, but they've sat on their hands for a critically long period of time. But this one, Clarence Thomas set up the Can I just read what he said? Yeah.

He had it in his decision in the Supreme Court. He said, in this case, the Attorney General purported to appoint a private citizen as special counsel to prosecute a former president on behalf of the United States, said Thomas. But I am not sure that any office for the special counsel has been established by law as the Constitution requires. By requiring that Congress create federal established by law as the constitution requires by requiring that congress create federal offices by law the constitution imposes an important check against

the president he cannot create offices at his pleasure by establishing if there is if there is no law establishing the office that the special counsel occupies then he cannot proceed with this prosecution a private citizen cannot criminally prosecute anyone, let alone a former president. Let's go back to the iron law of woke projection. They accused Trump of acting like a king. That's literally kingly behavior. I love the part.

I mean, what's so interesting is the president cannot create offices at his pleasure. In other words, the president can't hire goons to go after his political rival. Exactly. Which is, what they did is basically what America thought of him. Although perhaps he'd be immune if he did so, In other words, the president can't hire goons to go after his political rival. Which is what they did is basically what America thought. Although perhaps he'd be immune if he did so, if it was part of the official acts of the office. But it is amazing. It was raised in an amicus, the argument that Jack Smith was unlawfully appointed.

Clarence Thomas set out the framework for any further ruling on that. And Eileen Cannon, the only judge doing her job in this. It's amazing it was it was predictable it's fascinating and now they're going to call for the impeachment of eileen if these people really wanted unity i mean they would drop all these cases and frankly you can see that unity isn't really uh in the core of their being when they're already in meltdown right over this case getting dismissed and right now because president trump's not in office they're obviously going the the lawfare route but when he was in office right they impeached him twice that's not

very uh unity inspired if you ask me is is clarence thomas will be the judge for the appeal or or how does that work uh for the well it's good canadian but maybe no i know clarence thomas it would have to get up back to the supreme court this will go to the uh i don't know what fifth circuit or unless aoc winter impeachment justice controls certain regions oh i i would not i would have to Court this will go to the I don't know what Fifth Circuit or 11th Circuit Unless AOC wins her impeachment Each justice controls certain regions Oh I would not I would have to Refer to my bigger brain Robert Barnes on that one So this is the

Argument the left has for packing the court Is that I think what are there 13 different Hasn't it been so low he was saying that too But we only have nine justices and it's because We never added more after the fact And so some have more than one Oh is that why we have nine districts? Is that what that is?

There's like 13, I think. Tim's going to get in trouble. It's not packing the court anymore. It's expanding the court because packing is unconstitutional. Expanding is constitutionally required. But that also is easier to explain. And so I'm not sure how it works, but something to the effect of like each justice has

like oversees a certain district for when appeals are filed. And someone said Clarence Thomas is in this jurisdiction. I'm trying to pull up the jurisdictions right now, but you're right. I mean, it's divided. And that's why occasionally you'll see, oh, you know, Alito has stopped this thing. This person signed off on whatever. It would be funny if it was Clarence Thomas. Let's let's jump to the big story of the day.

Donald Trump. There's another one. J.D.'s jump to the big story of the day. Donald Trump selects. Wait, there's another one? J.D. Vance is the VP. Another white pill. J.D. Vance, this is actually, we got advanced warning because I guess government vehicles showed up at his house the other day. And then people tried. Motorcade, special motorcade.

Yeah, and people tried playing it off like, you know, it's not going to be him. That was something else. And it's like, Donald Trump faces an assassination attempt and the U.S. government immediately rushes to J.D. Vance's house. We know who the VP pick is. And now it's official. Now you know why predicted limits their bets

to $850. Because with that type of, it's a white pill. I'm sorry. But I do want to mention this because we were at the RNC earlier today and we're hanging out at one of the little pub eateries in the big complex where they're doing everything and like well we're

gonna we're gonna stick around because Trump's supposed to make his announcement at some point and we're assuming he's gonna come here and someone's gonna come on stage now he just posted on truth so we're sitting there eating cheeseburgers and it's like he just posted it all right let's go back to the studio and uh we'll head back but what do you guys think JD Vance good call well I really just want to thank uh president donald trump for confirming my months-long prediction that this would be the selection you're really doing me a solid president trump i appreciate it no i mean i think jd vance is such an interesting pick partially because so many americans know him because of hillbilly elegy

which i just think it had you know publishing is sort of a dying industry in the day and age of social media but that book had such a profound impact on the American public. And this was before he was in the Senate. It's about his, I'm sure all of you know, but it's about his life growing up in Ohio and Kentucky. It's about his family, this function that was there, you know, the influence of opioids and alcohol and his rise through, you know, the, you know, the challenges, challenging circumstances he was in into the Marine Corps, to Ohio State, to Yale Law, to Silicon Valley, working with Peer to Peer Law. I mean, now, you know, Senate VP pick. It's fascinating. And for me, you know, when I worked in Connecticut after college at a very, you know, elite boarding school, it's all girls. And I worked with, you know, feminists, Democrats, people who never would ever, ever vote for Trump. And they talked about J.D. Vance because he had opened their eyes to a world and community that they just had no access to. And I don't think that that is that can be understated as an impactful as an impact and influence for his campaign. Of course, there are things you can complain about in terms of his record. Of course, I want to know how he's what he would do about birthright citizenship and some other immigration questions. But I think it's a really interesting choice, especially from the man who gained prominence on The Apprentice. Politically, I don't think any of Trump's VP picks was going to be significant. In 2016,

I think he needed to choose Mike Pence to shore up the evangelical vote and give him more credibility from the establishment. But now he doesn't need any of that credibility. Trump is the Republican Party. So any vice president would do. I don't think J.D. Vance being his VP pick is winning over any additional voters. I think there needs to be some interesting politics at play with the governor now appointing the former junior senator to be J.D. Vance.

Who was the governor against? DeWine is the governor in Ohio. I mean, we've talked about this. If it opens up, maybe he'll appoint Vivek Ramaswamy because he's also from Ohio. I mean, it is interesting that Trump picked someone who everyone points out is a never-Trumper. I mean, it's not insignificant.

It's a sort of transformational story. That's unity. That's what that is. That is unity. What it is, I think there were... Unity with the never-Trumpers. Well, there's a good joke in there that there's no you in their unity. That's what that is. That is unity. What it is, I think... Unity with the Never Trumpers. Well, there's a good joke in there that there's no you in their unity. His VP pick was absolutely critical because it needs to be assassination insurance.

And there were a number of his VP picks who were not only... I saw a lot of tweets about this. If you want assassination insurance, you pick Steve Bannon. J.D. Vance is not giving you enough of that. I disagree with that, but there were some people being floated who would be the exact opposite of assassination insurance. They would be a deep state reward for taking Trump out. Tim Scott, Warhol would be one of them.

As far as I understood, the consensus was that Burgum also would be a useful replacement to Trump. J.D. Vance is a populist. He's good is a populist he's good for food freedom he's good for medical freedom and he would not be any more of a pleasant substitute for trump to the presidency and there's a reason why the worst people on earth right now are freaking out over how do you justify his past comments being another gives a sweet bugger all what he said in 26 well it means he wasn't loyal from the beginning. And it means that he could have, wait, and it means he could have just looked at the political

trends of the time and like, I'm just going to follow in Trump's footsteps. Or it means he's got a half-functioning brain and has seen that the world today is not the same world that it was in 2016. He spoke about this tonight when he was talking to Sean Hannity and he said, I was certainly skeptical of Donald Trump in 2016, but President Trump was a great

president, and he changed my mind, and I think he changed the minds of a lot of Americans, because again, he delivered that peace and prosperity. I mean, he changed my mind. I wasn't pro-Trump in 2016. I didn't vote for him in 2016. But you were a never-Trumper? Never-Trump, and

now he's just VP pick. I literally said I will never vote for Donald Trump over and over again. Pretty sure Michael Rappaport has been calling Trump pig D-I-C-K for the last... It's on the table.

No, it's on the table. It's on the table. He took it off the table. He did? He did take it off the table. He's not going to... Ah, what an idiot. For all the people who say that.

I always knew Rappaport was an idiot. Until 2020, I was like, I will not vote for the guy. I was like, you guys, I understand why people like him. I'm not going to vote for him. It's just, it is what it is.

And then late in 2020, when he released his second term agenda, I had a real conversation with some friends about it. I had been reporting on what was going on with him. And I said, I can't look at what's going on with wokeness, DEI, see Donald Trump attempting to stop it, and argue I would vote against it. I can't see what he did going on with Wokeness, DEI, see Donald Trump attempting to stop it, and argue I would vote against it. I can't see what he did with getting our troops out of Syria, trying to at least, and trying to get a timeline for getting out of Afghanistan, and argue against it. In fact, when you look at his four years, I had been saying the whole time, he's crass, he's crude, he lacks decorum, I wouldn't vote for the guy. And then I saw what he did in North Korea.

And then I saw what he did with the Abraham Accords. And I was like, this guy needs four more years. Now he needs four more years. I'll say it right now. I also think that J.D. Vance is like, look, I am always hesitant when people have ever uttered the words, never Trump. I think we have like PTSD from so many people who have stabbed Trump in the back. But I do think it's funny that you bring up Steve Bannon. I would totally co-sign on Steve as VP.

But I think there are actually some interesting similarities between Steve and J.D. Vance. And what I mean by that is that if you look at their background, right, they came from, you know, family situations that were working class. Or in J.D.'s case, a little bit less than that, right? Hillbilly elegy. They worked their way up. They served in the military. They went to prestigious schools. They had the nice, cushy, you know, venture capitalist investment banking jobs. But in many ways, they're class traitors in the sense that they left that world to become true, I think, to their core fire-breathing populist types.

And I think that men who are willing to walk away from that and kind of return back and fight for the common man, the American people, I think that that speaks volumes and I think that you see it in his actions. And frankly, I hope that President Trump has J.D. Vance, you know, tackle and focus on issues like immigration, like ending what's going on in Ukraine, because you know what? J.D. Vance wants to have a political future

and he knows that he will not if he doesn't administer and get that border under control, if he doesn't stop the continuous flow of U.S. taxpayer dollars to Ukraine. I think that there's sort of an interesting, I think, chance with him to really make sure that he adheres to the MAGA base. Because you know what? He has to prove himself. And frankly, I think it's better to have some, I mean, yeah, it'd be great to have someone who's, you know, just like Trump and copies everything that he does, but we can't clone him yet. But you have someone who has to prove themselves. And I think that you can maybe in some ways find a silver lining there,'s um obviously a christian theme but uh people

love that on the right and um jd vance is having that opportunity at redemption and uh trump supporters are embracing him and it's good for him one of the other key things here that i think we might be overlooking too soon this informally makes jd vance the successor to the mega movement as trump's uh vp on the forums yeah in a a term where Trump will be termed out, but informally. For now, he has the mantle more than anybody else on the right as, you know, the MAGA successor, which will be significant in a post-Trump landscape. I know we're getting ahead of ourselves. Well, I think that they're, you know, you're right.

It does put him at the forefront of the circle, but it still leaves room for a ton of people to do interesting things. I mean, the governorships, the state, the senators, but it still leaves room for a ton of people to do interesting things. I mean, the governorships, the state, the senators, the congressional roles that are... Trump picked me to be his second in case anything happened to me. I am the successor.

I think it's significant. I think it's significant, but I think we have four years and there are a lot of really talented people who could carry this. I mean, that's part of the nice thing about populism, right? Like, we don't have to look

for the federal government for everything. And I think the criticism of J.D. Vance's past comments are important. I think this is one of the things that we now are in a position to do as people who, if you're thinking about, if you think of yourself as an American first person, if you think yourself as someone who wants this more, this worldview to kind of spread and grow, is to say, what are we willing to do in terms of redemption? And also what are our standards for the people who are saying, well, actually, I want back in. I think i want to be back on this train so there's hope for

nikki there's hope for nikki haley fingers are crossed over here i will say she thought she was going to be the presidential nominee at the at the convention if the plan had gone according i have to make this uh official now uh will chamberlain formally owes money to a charity of my choosing. So he bet me it was going to be Nikki Haley and I said, no way, it's not. And he said, gentlemen's bet.

And so the agreement is he would make a contribution to a charity if it was not Nikki. And when Trump came out and said, it's definitely not Nikki, he agreed that he lost.

I said, no, no, no, we have to wait because Trump just said it's not enough. But now it's official and so we'll find something good, maybe something for veterans or like tunnels to towers or

something. I just want to say one thing. Sorry. I didn't mean to jump down your throat when you brought up the never Trumper from 2016. I've been hearing that all day. You can't penalize evolution. You can't penalize evolution. You can penalize hypocrisy.

Can you reward loyalty then? Yeah. Okay. Then let's reward loyalty then. Well, I don't know. Somebody who was never, never Trumper. I don't, but I don't, well. I don't know what that would look like. Trump Jr.

Trump 2024. I heard people on the internet floating the idea that it was going to be Barron as the VP. Suddenly the US would be Trump and son. The quote here, put it on a mug, is you can penalize hypocrisy, but you can't penalize evolution, because if you do,

you're basically forcing people to stubbornly stick to their views that they no longer hold. And so I reward evolution if it's sincere. And I will penalize hypocrisy if they bounce around like a broken egg. Redemption is a beautiful thing. A lot so much. And I get that. I think it's fair to be mad. I think there are a lot of people who are incredibly talented, who have been loyal to Trump since 2016 and who are vocal in this. But if Pence was the selection to win the evangelical vote, maybe having someone to win the never Trump vote to say, look, you guys can always return home.

He's such an anti-never Trumper too now, J.D., I think, in my estimation. Look, people who convert are always the most devout and most open about it. Is everyone else also in love with J.D.'s eyes? Because he's got beautiful, deep blue eyes. And he has a son named Vick. They always say they think he's wearing eyeliner. It doesn't hurt that he's a very good looking. He looks like a good looking man.

And has a young family. I think that's interesting, too. Before we go to Super Chats, I want to circle back just to this post from Colin Rugg. He tweeted about 40 minutes ago. A police counter sniper team was inside the building that Thomas Crooks shot from during the shooting, according to the New York Post. This just keeps getting more insane. According to sources who spoke at the post, Crooks was literally climbing on top of the building where the watch post for the snipers was located.

The building, the AGR International Inc. factory in Butler, Pennsylvania, was being used by local police as a watch post for snipers to scan for the threats as the former president spoke on stage only 130 yards away the post reported crooks was reportedly spotted at the building 26 before the 26 minutes before the incident this sounds exactly like the plot to the movie shooter well if i may steal man this i'll steal man this for the sake of the people who still don't believe this was a lehop they thought he was a sniper they didn't they didn't identify him as a citizen. They thought he was one of the crew. And so they let him be.

This is this is the explanation. The reason why the Secret Service on top of the barn that everyone saw didn't take action. Back in the 80s, Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery were budding filmmakers working together at a hip Los Angeles video store called Video Archives. We didn't have a cash register for four years. Yeah. Now they're reuniting to watch the original tapes from the Video Archives collection, films like Dark Star, Moonraker and many more. The Video Archives podcast is out now. Find us on Spotify, Apple or wherever you listen to podcasts. The official statement was that they thought it was law enforcement where law enforcement was supposed to be.

But that doesn't explain how 26 minutes went by with them taking a picture and reporting. I mean, I suppose. I steel manned it. I don't believe it, but I can steel man that argument. I suppose the idea that Donald Trump, but for a few millimeters, survived is an astronomical insanity. I can accept fair argument. It was an all-around astronomical absurdity that happened today. And if you want to believe that Trump getting missed was the grace of God, then perhaps you can argue the entire circumstance was an act of God to bolster Trump and save his election or something.

Well, I would go less personal than Trump, but this will really redirect American trajectory in terms of where it was going versus where it looks like it's going to go now. The biggest problem in calling this an act of God or divine intervention is that the gentleman died. And you can't always prevent evil, but you can have something of a divine intervention to mitigate the consequences of that evil and i believe that we just really saved the course of american future uh by what happened what was the name of the victim who was shot colin cory cory comparator cory comparator i believe he has a gofundme uh obviously as of last night it had over 750 000 raids which is incredible i mean people really

want to rally around this family and if you read his his daughter's statement i mean sad and moving it's moving and sad and it's terrible to have loss in your family uh and i appreciate that they are willing to speak openly about what's going on because i think a lot of people have questions and want to act like the fact that you could give to their family and say like we are sorry this happened to you we want to these were trump v, like, we are sorry this happened to you. We want to lift you up. These were Trump VIPs too, diehard Trump supporters in the bleachers. They're hours before Trump got on to see Trump. Second movie reference of the night.

Everyone's seen Good Will Hunting? Yes. It's just like, you know, it is wonderful that people will donate and support. You know, there's not all the money in the world that can undo this tragedy for the family and it's it's just it's it's beyond horror we're gonna go to super chat so if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button one like equals one fight fight

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that hasn't been said all weekend. Thank you, Tim, for donating Super Chat money to Corey Comprator's family and all those affected. God bless. Now, I want to pause real quick. I was asked this morning if I would, and I said, that would be great. Maybe we can work out some kind of match or something, but here's why I didn't say anything at the beginning of the show. YouTube takes a cut.

If you want to donate to the family of Corey Comprator, doing so directly would make more money go to that family, and I didn't want to do... If I was like, oh yeah, super chat us and we'll donate the money, it just gives YouTube a piece of that donation so you should go to the families go fund me you can search for it and give directly

and i think that's better however that being said all the super chat revenue so far we will give i will donate to the family but i want to stress if you do super chat right now youtube's getting 35 of that you're better off giving the money directly to the family. I thought it would be a fun thing to do. But, you know, after I was reminded, like, yeah, but YouTube's going to take a huge portion. I'm like, oh, that would that would kind of suck. Hey, everybody, donate. Give the give the money to us and we'll give it to them.

And then YouTube slices a chunk off. And I would say I think it's meaningful to the family. I can imagine, you know, seeing all of those donations come in. I mean, you know, every $5 donation, every $20 donation is someone reaching out to them. And I just can imagine that that is, again, a reminder of how many people are praying for and thinking of their family. I read a report that said Trump might be going to the funeral. I could be wrong.

All right, Raymond G. Maga, Stanley Jr. It's Maga. I'm told everyone got mad at me. I just watched the Milk Bar TV video. It took forever to get to the two minute mark they had all the time and did nothing to prevent it weird weird uh shout out to milk bar tv on x they took trump's speech the words he was saying and synchronized all of the videos so you get a direct timeline with these videos popping in and out and it's insane that they're going he's got a gun they're screaming and it's just like two minutes

go by where where is that where's that where's that link i haven't seen that i think i retweeted it oh god i have to milk bar tv watch so the first video where right they're filming the building and they're pointing at the guy you you can hear trump in the background so they took the live footage of trump actually speaking and put them side by side, synchronizing his speech. Then when that video stops, it cuts back to Trump speaking. Then another video starts at this right. And you can tell where it is because of how it's masterfully done. And I was watching that.

I was dumbfounded. I was like, you see the timer, the timestamp, two minutes and one second from when they screamed. He's on the roof. He's got a gun to when Trump got shot. Did anybody identify who the woman screaming crooks was in one of the videos really yeah there was something crooks what are you doing up there like i don't know what's real anymore on the internet so i'm reluctant to retweet it sounded like the and we didn't address the fact that both of his parents were apparently government psychology psychological workers both of his parents were uh are they

they're with the government or are they just registered locally? And he worked at like a nursing home or whatever? He didn't look right in the head from the videos that we've seen, but I'm not going to diagnose yet. I feel bad for him. I will stress this out again, though.

All the Super Chats so far, I'm going to just make that direct donation to their GoFundMe. It's GoFundMe, right? I don't know for sure. I think it is. I'll look, yeah.

But if you guys, if I were to say give us superchats again, YouTube just takes a cut of all that, I don't think that's a good idea. I don't know. Because it just seems like

you guys should give directly to the family. I don't know. I don't know. It's tough. Maybe we would raise more money if we did it through the show, but then YouTube takes

a 35% cut. So. There's tough. Maybe we would raise more money if we did it through the show, but then YouTube takes a 35% cut. There's a support for butler PA victims. Oh, this is not specifically for Corey, but there's two. And the one that seems to be President Trump authorized is up to $4.5 million. There's another man. There's someone else in Critical, I believe. Well, he's been upgraded from Critical to to stable, a veteran of the Marine Corps, but he's also in a medically induced coma.

Wow. And then you have people on the internet rejoicing in this and saying he shouldn't have missed and that's what you get for going to a Trump rally. There are sick people out there who get- It's pretty horrifying. No, it's horrifying, but they've been conditioned. When I say like mental illness, this is like social media conditioning to say awful, awful, insidious stuff. And you get rewarded with clicks.

They've been conditioned to think that them hating other people is a good thing and that it makes them morally superior. All right. Paige Holland says he was shot twice. The first shot, Trump puts his hand on his ear. Second shot, he pulls his arm to his side. Slow the video. You can see what looks like a hole in his jacket maybe I'm mistaken So I interviewed the wall guy

Earlier today he was front row Just ran into him at the convention Brick suit guy The wall guy He didn't have any information on that I've seen the same picture as well but I haven't heard anything Confirming that elsewhere Like a bullet went through his suit

Like it hit him in the bulletproof vest. What if it went through the loose part of the jacket? From the image that was circulating, it looked like he might have been wearing a bulletproof vest. I'm sure it was. I'm sure it was, but you don't think? I mean, what weapon was the guy using? It's a 5.56?

Or a 2.23 are the numbers that I've heard. I don't know what they mean, but I've heard those numbers. Trump's going to need some pretty serious body armor. Those are high velocity rounds. We velocity we gotta roll the tapes we gotta go back and ask president trump directly well so again i think we would have known that also if it had like hit a bulletproof vest type thing like that but no we know right can you imagine it hit his it you like you say it's it's like it's like doing a um i'd like to know what what caliber of bullet it was that matters uh from what i understand you'll know what caliber of bullet it was. That matters. From what I understand, you'll know this more than me,

it was a.223 from an AR-15 type rifle. But I don't know... That's what's been reported. Okay, I'm pretty sure.223s are high-velocity rounds. I mean, they don't have the same power as a 5.56. But what... I suppose.223 would make sense. I'm not a gun expert. But high-velocity rounds are no joke like we've got

What are we it's a 17 super mag? I think they're called 17 Superman. It's a fine. It's a fine firearm It's a high velocity small round and it vaporizes critters like into into a fine mist Causes cavitation because it's high velocity. It creates a vacuum behind it. Just so Tim, I know nothing about firearms. I know nothing as well. And you say it vaporizes critters. You mean like raccoon type critters. Right.

So as it was explained to me at the store when I was picking up ammo for my 17 Super Mag, I think that's what it's called, and they're very small and they said they're small,

high velocity rounds that are intended for, you know, getting rid of like dangerous pests in the yard or whatever or in your fields he's like but understand this thing's high velocity so a mist will emerge like it cavitates it vaporizes them i was like really that sounds brutal well also if you want to appreciate that rabies is contracted by uh inhaling fluids i mean you might want to be well away from any animal that you're vaporizing. So there's a lot of people who are saying.223 and.556

are the same. They're not the same. They are interchangeable cartridges. So I have several.556 AR-15s. .223, I believe, is like a lower pressure. Again, I'm not an expert on this. So you can't put... If a weapon is just.22 this so you can't put if a weapon is just two

two three you can't put a five five six in it if it is a five five six you can put a two two three in it but don't take my advice talk to experts because i don't have anybody uh what is this five five six is a different neck dimension for higher pressure right that's what i thought yeah uh morgan says there absolutely is concealable level four soft armor yeah someone mentioned uh 17 hornet i think that's yeah that might be what i have you know we just we just we just a lot of people on the left don't understand i shouldn't say on the left but liberals they just think bullets go pew and i watched like some video one of the videos of the people criticizing the shooter called what he had a shotgun and missed and i'm just like you ain't hitting the broad side of a barn from that distance with a

shotgun what are you talking about or actually maybe you'll hit the entirety of it and do nothing they don't know anything about weapons they don't know that there's different rounds for different purposes there's different guns with with different barrels like all of it serves different purposes they just they think gun the funny thing i had yesterday's show we started with a guy named lynn westover who's a former sniper recon uh and he was saying that you know although people complain like how could he miss the shot that any trained sniper or anyone trained with firearms would be hitting a target of that size from three times the distance so the fact that he did miss from as short as 1.4 1.5 football fields is a miracle what some people were saying was that he clearly was training in an indoor range because he didn't account for wind and

my understanding is that your average person with a long gun sighted properly and all that can can make a shot at that distance however considering wind considering wind, that explanation seems to make sense. It looked like he was aiming for Trump's head, too. He wasn't aiming for a center of mass. Yeah. So, I don't know, going for this ridiculous Hollywood freaking shot, like, outrageous.

The whole situation, obviously. All right. Zwavbro says, Vivi clearly missed something. You moved to the U.S. with the fam. Yay. Zwavbro says, Viva, I clearly missed something. You moved to the U.S. with the fam. Yay. Countdown to citizenship when? Thus far, temporary,

but can't lie that the permanent is in the works. Canada's in a very, very, very bad state. It's not getting any better. Obviously, the states have their own problems, but there were lines in the sand in terms of me leaving Quebec. Have you considered just going to, say, like Eagle Pass and then walking across the river and requesting asylum? I'll claim asylum.

Depending on what happens, I'll claim asylum because some of my tweets have gotten very mean for Trudeau. We had Ezra Levant on Rebel News, and he was like, I'm from the future. Canada is five years ahead of the U.S. in terms of how bad it is. I'm here to warn you. It is interesting that Canada is always sort of looking down on America and our culture and our politics, but actually they're in chaos. It's in free fall. John Sola says, one of my wife's employees is a victim at the rally.

He has had multiple surgeries, has broken rib and a lacerated spleen. His name is David Dutch. Please add this super chat to the donation for the victims. Absolutely, absolutely. I think we'll hear a lot of stories like this there was i can't remember the congressman's name but there was a congressman whose nephew was grazed by a bullet ronnie jackson jackson thank you uh and i i mean one of the most impactful things that came out to me within the first couple hours was that um the cbs reporters interview with the emergency room doctor who rushed the aid of, I believe, the fallen firefighter. It is interesting to see the heroic acts taken in times of crisis. Now, he's, of course, an emergency room physician. He has probably seen a lot of terrible things,

but that idea that it was like, I'm going to run to you and offer you aid and support, that's the culture I want to be in. All the prayers for David Dutch. Yeah. Uh, Brecca bash super chatted $135 saying a hundred to the family, 35 to YouTube. God bless the family. I really do appreciate it.

Uh, this morning people asked if we would give all the super chats and I was like, yeah, absolutely. Of course. And we'll try and do some kind of matching thing. And then when we talked about it,

it's like, yeah, but you're telling people to donate to you and then YouTube's taking 35% so like Why they should just give the money to the family and we did this with sound of freedom and we matched the donations But it is kind of I don't want you to be stick I want I think people should donate directly to the families to the to the GoFundMe Otherwise it just gets muddy and then I'm worried like someone's to come and be like, Tim was doing that, and then YouTube

was taking the money, and it's hurting the family. I don't want to. You just donate to the families, guys. And I'll make the donation, too. Divine Beast Dancing Line says, lighter note, Mr. President on Steam is getting a massive influx of sales and positive reviews. The game has you play as The Rock to push Ronald Rump out of the way

of an assassin's bullet. Wow. Very funny and would recommend if you had time to waste. Limerick Minstrel Tim McDonald. Who's that? Oh, Tom McDonald put out a track. Of course. Called You Missed, releasing the song 12 hours after the assassination attempt.

That is... I don't love that, I'm going to say. You don't love it? I just feel like, you know, I don't know Tom McDonald, but it does feel like this, and I canadian so i can say this this canadian guy being like this is my moment to get a single doesn't feel like the way i want to rally and unify it's it's a cynical uh reaction and it's an understandable one but the flip side and i'm going to go more in line with this he's

enraged and he has to express it in the way that he can and it's through his art and it's cool that art is there for that for sure and i know i would not there are some artists i might impugn the presumed intentions of i happen to love tom mcdonald so i will not and i don't have anything against him personally it's just this moment i'm like well that's it's that's the question is like how long do you wait to do these things but no i think i think his his uh intentions sincere. The artist who made the absolutely gorgeous piece of Trump, it's a painting, I forget his name, Tim, he's a New York guy, oh, come on. He just put out a documentary as well.

I'm not going to remember his name, but he made a masterpiece of a painting of that moment. Corto Maltese says the flag didn't invert into the shape of a cross, Tim. Here's a picture of it. Let me pull it up. There you go. I don't know. That looks of a cross, Tim. Here's a picture of it. Let me pull it up. There you go. I don't know.

That looks like a T to me. Maybe he's saying it's a ninja star and not a cross. I'm just saying. When did that happen, though? Because the photograph. Afterwards. Yeah, the wind blew and then it flipped up onto itself. This is before.

Oh, it was before. Twisted and, yeah, before. Oh, okay, before the shooting. Angels watching. People are calling it the angel flag right before. Or it looked like a bird. There is something also to say about the composure of the crowd during the shooting. You know, I see videos of many shootings online.

Everybody's running everywhere. But during this, Trump supporters were very composed. There wasn't as much panic as one would expect, I think, at least for that. That also struck me when seeing all the footage of this. Prinzi says WGN interviewed a former Secret Service agent, Tim McCarthy, who said that JFK was the only assassination not committed by a lone gunman. Huh. There was a witness report right away of a second shooter we tend to get these don't know what it means you know the the stuff you get on the scene uh is usually different

how they report it later you hear the sniper go off too that's somebody could perceive that it's a second shooter just yeah well and i had heard that people thought the gunfire was fireworks and then afterwards because there was smoke and stuff people were like well maybe it's to cover up something that's going on i mean i'm sure in that situation it's terrifying well and also from some of the recordings it sounds like they're being fired in pairs and i thought it was i asked why is the guy firing pop pop pop pop and i was told that that's the pop and the echo so when you're here is one shot with an echo but in rfk's assassin robert f kennedy's assassination i believe they're there yeah there were there were more than one gunman.

If I'm wearing my tinfoil hat. We didn't talk about this that much, but, you know, finally, I mean, Trump called for it this morning. Thomas Massey called for it right away. There's a couple of people who have advocated for RFK Jr. to get Secret Service protection. His dad's assassination is the reason that the government began extending Secret Service protection to political, major political candidates during the final 120 days before an election. I'm channeling Barnes, Robert Barnes right now. Biden wants his political adversaries to no longer be alive. There's no hiding them any other way.

No, there's no. Well, he's been trying to deny RFK Jr. Secret Service is nothing but hoping it happens. Making Trump and I've been saying this for a little while, making Trump go into big public areas for his court lawfare stuff, it's just, hey, let's get him as exposed as we can because we want this to happen to him. There's no denying it now.

All right. C. Jacob says, long time TimCast member and listener, I just wanted to say thank you for everything you do because of you I wake up every day to be better than I was yesterday and give my kids and wife the best life I can. FJB, Trump 2024.

I do appreciate it. Wow, what do you do to do that to people? I tell everyone that the goal is just to be better than you were yesterday. So every day you think about what you can do today that would make you better yesterday. The journey of 1,000 miles begins with a single step. So, you know, if you're asking, how do I get from here to there? It's really simple. Tomorrow you wake up and you do one push-up.

One. One push-up. You can do one push-up. It's not even a big deal. It doesn't matter who you are. You do one. That's like my friend who, years ago when I was trying to start exercising, which I was loathe to ever do. A friend of mine who was doing Pilates and stuff, she was like, just do it for 10 minutes.

And even if you don't exercise, even if you just lay on your yoga mat for 10 minutes, that's progress. And I was like, oh, I can lay on a yoga mat for 10 minutes. But after two minutes, you feel dumb. And so you start doing exercise. You do one push-up. And the next day, you do one push-up again. But maybe you might be like, I could do another one.

It's no big deal. Yeah, because then you start feeling better. And then you mark them down. And then after a year you might be like, I could do another one. It's no big deal. Yeah, because then you start feeling, yeah, you feel better. And then you mark them down. And then after a year, you're like, I got to do 50. And then you're doing 50. It's actually really easy to be able to increase the amount of push-ups you can do. You know, and it's really easy to lose them, too.

That's an important thing. If you get into it and you do 50 push-ups in one go and then you stop for a while, you'll come back and be like, whoa. Yeah, so you got gotta keep it up. Well, now I work out every day. It's gotta be better than you were yesterday. That's the way you do it. Wyatt Caldenberg says, David Dutch, 57,

and James Copenhaver, 74, they are invisible, don't forget them. They are July 13th fallen brothers too. They need help too. Shout out. Absolutely. Dystopian Lucidity says, prayers for the family of the fallen.

Man. Jason Hutchinson says those boss ladies sure did a bang up job providing security for Trump. Go Queens. Why did how many Secret Service agents were female? Like four? Just too many. That's the only answer. Was it four?

It looks like at least four. I mean, you know, it could be more than that. It's hard to see with all the images. One of the issues also is the head of the FBI. I forget her name Not necessarily Yes, and the allegation is not or the accusation is not that she's a necessarily a DEI hire but that she's just corrupt and Incompetent now how she got the position is one thing but politics has infiltrated This is Dan Bongino's take on it corrupt incompetrupt, incompetent, and politics has invaded the FBI, and who knows why they were so lax with security.

All right. William Kelly says, prayers for the Comprator family. Trump 2024, I hope the family has someone who can take legal action for all the influencers defaming their family. I completely agree. And you've got to make sure you assume in Texas, right? 1.5 billion. You know, I said this in the morning, and I want to just say it now for anyone who missed the morning live stream that I did.

Cory Comprator exemplifies what every man hopes and wishes they will be if they are ever called to action. Because I know most men have probably wondered to themselves or asked themselves, what would they do if the time came? And nobody tested. I like to think that if I was, I would pass. Think, you know, look at the tested thing there. But for the grace go I. I'm not a coward. I'm afraid of what I might find out. And I told this to Dickey when he rejected the mandates, got fired from his job, and stood up for all that. I was like, it's funny.

After, you know, 30 some odd years, you were tested and you passed. And so I say for Corey Comperator and his family, he exemplified exactly what every man hopes they could be if they have to and uh don't know for sure but i know that uh wherever he is now he is he is even here on this earth and in the the on the other side whatever that may be he is celebrated because he did what what he had to do and that was his duty he saved his family he shielded them from from from death let's grab some more super chats cody mcpherson says shout out to cory every man should aspire to be like cory after this weekend i encourage everyone to read jack posa's new book which i can't type because google remember go to the gym it is unhumans and yeah yeah shout out man i've been reading it it's actually it's quite good as a federalis an enjoyable read as well as a federalis says anyone remember how joe basically

had all all dogs that were trained to attack and he left them all with secret service agents or how we all thought that keeping the jfk file secret was to protect the CIA. Maybe it was to protect the Secret Service. Maybe all the Secret Service started quitting after they kept getting bitten by Joe Biden's dogs. That was one of the early lies of the administration, too, was that they kept lying about the dogs. And it was a lefty reporter who got up in the press room and asked Jen Psaki, like, you know, how many times has there been attacks by the dogs? And then finally he was like, what else have you lied about? Maybe after a few bites.

If you're lying about the dogs, what else? And by the way, where are those dogs right now? They might not have euthanized them the way Kristi Noem did it, but those dogs are no longer among the living. No, they've been rehomed. They're with family friends, you know? They just like get to live on a farm. I thought I would have to make sure of a correction. Yeah, that dog's a gnome over there.

Two of them. This happened twice. Michael Deal says ladder was just purchased by him at Home Depot. Is that true? Shut up. I haven't heard that. No way. Then he comes walking up with a weapon and a ladder?

The picture I saw looked like the ladder was just something propped up against the wall. So I don't know. Well, there's going to be a receipt for that literally. So we'll wait for that evidence. James says, libs of TikTok and others have been calling out individuals who post about the shooter missing. Nurses, PA, firefighter, etc. Cancel culture. OK, now I don't know how I feel morally just against evil.

I was having conversation about this earlier. I don't care to defend people who want to destroy our rights and are attacking us on a daily basis. Well, yeah. Oh, sorry. I could field that one, but I'm sorry to interrupt you. I was going to say, if you're a communist, but you also have defended and advocated for free speech across the board, and think that in your utopia, free speech is paramount and you defend rights, then I'm going to defend your right to free speech. If you're a communist who gloats and says, too bad that you got banned, sorry,

then I'm going to be like, well, you get the world that you asked for. These people that are cheering for what happened to these individuals, they cheer for censorship. Why would I come out now and be like, oh no, how could you ban them? I'd be like, they got exactly what they've been asking for. They are begging these companies to ban people. The company said, okay, you ban them? I'd be like, they got exactly what they've been asking for. They're begging these companies to ban people. The company said, okay, and banned them. Well, okay, I guess.

Well, I'll say, nobody's trying to make their stupidity illegal. And I'm not going to go with, it's not cancel culture, but consequence culture. It is not cancel culture to say when you make statements that are fundamentally incompatible with your job,

that you then suffer consequences. But they have to be fundamentally incompatible with your job, that you then suffer consequences. But they have to be fundamentally incompatible with your job. True. And a nurse who says. Like teachers who do drag shows for toddlers. That's fundamentally. And firefighters and nurses who say they wanted bad things to happen.

They shouldn't have a job. Absolutely. Like a pilot saying I support certain very bad. Flame crashes. Yes. Fired. It's not cancel culture. That is, you make statements that you're free to make

that are incompatible with your role in your job. And this is the lie. The double standard, the false standard. The left came out and said things like, oh, so you're for cancel culture?

And I was like, whoa, hold on there a minute. I never said you couldn't get banned for being a dick and doing things. What I'm concerned about is for one, Twitter 1.0 had incongruous rules between the left and the right. There was not a single standard of censorship.

It was that the left was getting everyone on the right censored and the left could say whatever they wanted. The problem was inequality. So you did not know how to navigate the system. The idea for cancel culture initially was Sarah Silverman, who I think is atrocious, got fired from a job because 10 years prior, she did blackface.

That's cancel culture. That's stupid. If we said right now, guys, we're kind of over the blackface thing. Please don't do it. And she came out and said, oh, yeah, and then did it.

I'd be like, well, I can understand why people got offended by her and fired her she's coming out now to intentionally insult and berate people that's a bit different from hey we found out you did a joke 10 years ago when everyone thought it was acceptable and now she's losing her job or the race car driver who dropped got dropped from his sponsor because his dad said a racial slur in the 80s that's cancel culture cancel culture to me was things that were we are going to take away your job for things that you didn't know were wrong in the first place and you have no opportunity to correct for what if

they what if they're things that okay so you said cancel culture is we're going to take away your job for you know things that you didn't know were wrong and you transgressed and you didn't know but like a long time ago right right so what if what if what about something where you make a statement that you fully believe in and then the people who, you know, are in charge of keeping you hired say we don't like your statement that you made in your free time. So you should get fired. I heart JK Rowling and she was dragged before the human rights tribunal for transphobia and she lost her entire. Human rights tribunal is very different. She was dragged before it by the College of Nurses and Midwives. Right. That's very, very different.

This is Canada. So she was her professional body, her basically her union said, you don't deserve to have a career in nursing anymore. A tribunal is very different from you work for a company and you are causing negative press and causing damage. And first, I think there's a test of reasonableness. If you're an athlete and you make a statement that is offensive, like Gina Carano, for instance. This is a good example. She said we should not be like we don't want to be like it was in Germany where people are demonizing their neighbors. They did not come out and say it is offensive to make that statement.

They came out and lied about what she said and said she was accusing people of being Nazis or something. She didn't do that. She said, we don't want to demonize our neighbors, and they lied. That's a problem. That I do not agree with. If a company came to you, here's how I think it should go. You work for a pizza company. You then go outside and scream something shockingly offensive costing that company business the boss comes to you and says we are losing customers because of what you were doing i want to i think it's reasonable for me to ask you please don't do that if it's incompatible

with how our business operates and if we lose money we can't operate and other people lose their jobs because of the actions you're taking are offending people. If they then said, I don't care. I can say whatever I want. I have free speech. You can be like, that's true. And a fair point. Maybe this isn't the right place for you.

I have no problem with that. So that's basically what happened to Amy. If you buy a billboard that I heard JK Rowling and you should be allowed to do it. And they went to her and said, people are getting really, really mad that a billboard is a serious endeavor to make. And it's putting a lot of spotlight, a lot of heat on us. If you want to take serious public action at this level, which will damage us, maybe you should resign. I also don't have a problem with that.

The fact that they pulled it before a human rights tribunal is very different. So you've got to understand that the balance of reasonableness between a private employer's rights and cancel culture. Well, it's a hospital. What about Jordan Peterson being dragged before the licensing board? That's absurdity. That's insanity. It's absurdity also because the I heart

J.K. Rowling is, first of all, I don't think there's anything offensive about it. She's a women's rights activist. Let's just say what it is. Even if there's nothing fundamentally offensive about that, but set that aside. There's certainly nothing incompatible with a nurse's obligation and duties. If she said, I hate filling the ethnic minority and put that up as a sign, as a nurse, I might question her ability to treat people of that ethnic minority, and therefore she can get fired.

But I love J.K. Rowling. Everyone loves Harry Potter except for me. Even then, it's all about what is reasonable for a private business. Well, it's a hospital in Canada. There's don't know if it's and there's government rules that's very very different the government canada is awful that they shouldn't be involved in these things i'm saying if i sell pizza and you go outside and scream pizza's awful don't buy it you're fired sorry like are you nuts what i i i i want a dominoes and my employees i'm a nurse and i say men aren't women

then obviously i should be fired i didn't say that i said no but i would say if you're a nurse and says if you're a nurse and you say children should get gender affirming care i'd say yeah you should be fired that's why you don't want to be canadian what i'm saying is there's a reasonableness to if someone gets fired for saying things that are incongruous with the business like if somebody works at domino's, but is telling customers and posting online pizza is disgusting, unhealthy, don't buy it. So who gets to decide? Online activists? The company?

HR? I don't understand how this is difficult. If I own a pizza place and you work for me and you say pizza is gross, don't buy it. Get out. I'm trying to sell pizza here, dude. Does everyone have to lose their job because you're driving business away? What if it's I don't really like tomatoes? See, there's a reasonableness here, dude. Does everyone have to lose their job because you're driving business away? What if it's, I don't really like tomatoes? See, there's a reasonableness here, right?

What's reasonable? So I'm saying. I don't like tomatoes. I don't care. You don't like tomatoes. So there have been a lot of online campaigns. And so the difference between cancel culture and someone getting fired for saying things is. Do you know that your employee said this on Facebook?

Right. It's an absurdity to think that no one can get fired for saying things in the public that are detrimental to a business how do you know they're detrimental why would it necessarily be detrimental if someone has a political view are you suggesting that there's literally no circumstance where an employee could damage a business and they should be allowed to keep working there i'm playing devil's advocate over here right so i don't i don don't understand what you're missing. In some circumstances, it is reasonable to fire a person for damaging your business,

and in other, it's cancel culture, because it's not. I actually happen to think you guys are saying the exact same thing, but in a different way. What's going on in Canada is ridiculous because it's weaponizing politics. But the bottom line, the cancel culture concept has been abused, or the term has been

abused to be diluted from what it was what it was was pulling up absolutely irrelevant things that were highly politicized usually uh exceeding the um the useful shelf life to be used as a pretext to go after people for political reasons like i'll just put it this way like if someone who worked at timcast was reaching out to members and telling them to cancel their membership and to stop supporting us. I don't understand why I would have them keep working here. No, that makes sense. Exactly. And so there are certainly things you can say.

What if someone at Timcast started advocating for child sex changes? Should we be like, well, I guess that's, you know, we're okay with that. What if it was their own child? Yeah, like I... Would you fire someone for transing their kid? Well, that's more of a difficult position That's not the same

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Thanks for everything you guys do. Have a good night. Well, actually, give me one second. Okay, I'll just keep talking over here. Is there more? Well, I think Trump is live right now. No way. Where? He's got... Let's pull this up. What's the ear look like?

Yeah, Trump's got a bandage on his ear. What a legend. His first appearance. You could kind of see. And he put off... He said he was initially advised to delay coming out, and then he decided not to. Oh, next to J.D. Wow.

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