Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1068 Trump Call With RFK LEAKS, Trump Asks For Endorsement Sparking SCANDAL w/TheQuartering

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, & Elad are joined by Alex Stein, The Quartering, & Luke Rudkowski to discuss Trump asking RFK Jr for his endorsement in newly leaked phone call, the Secret Service's failure to pro...tect Donald Trump, Jack Black canceling his tour after bandmate wished Trump shooter wouldn't miss "next time," and Trump's support surging after he survived assassination attempt. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Elad @EladEliahu (X) Guests: Luke Rudkowski @wearechange (YouTube) The Quartering @TheQuartering (YouTube) Alex Stein @AlexStein99 (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:05 good for you we're gonna win this thing and he also questions the safety of childhood vaccines which i kind of feel like is him saying come on you know i'll throw you some red meat i'll get you so we'll talk about that then we've got a bunch of other really big stories tenacious d they're they're megastars it's a huge comedy band know, they were massive in the 2000s. They have a nearly sold-out tour. Canceled. On stage just the other night, Kyle Gass, one of the members of the band, made a joke
Starting point is 00:01:34 saying he wished the shooter didn't miss. And then the next day, Jack Black announces the band is done. All future endeavors are on hiatus. He didn't say the band was literally done. He says all future creative works are on hold and the tour is over. Kyle Gass has apologized, so we'll talk about all of that. We've got Donald Trump's Secret Service detail no longer has women in it. And then, of course, tons of people are getting fired from their jobs
Starting point is 00:01:59 for posting on social media that they are upset the shooter missed. Massive story. We're going to talk about that. Plus, there's a lot more. Trump's polls, they're surging. His prediction market, all of it's surging. Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and pick up some Cast Brew Coffee. Look at that screaming man right there. We've got Ian's Graphene Dream, low acidity coffee. It's our latest, as well as Alex Stein's Primetime Grind, two times caffeine. Everybody's favorite Appalachian Nights. If you like the show and you want to support our work, hey, we're selling you a product. We sponsor ourselves with Casper Coffee because it seems like the best thing to do. So go to casper.com, buy our coffee, support the show, and you'll love
Starting point is 00:02:32 it. Also head over to timcast.com, click join us, become a member to support our work directly because your membership makes this show happen. And at 10 p.m. Eastern, we're going to have a members-only call-in show where you, as members, get to call Eastern, we're going to have a members only call in show where you as members get to call in, join the show, talk to us and our guests. Additionally, we have a special prerecorded segment with Congresswoman Lauren Boebert tonight, which will be airing at about 915. We were able to get her in just for just a few minutes to talk about legislation she is preparing to defund, to target the Secret Service over their failures and hold accountable the people involved. I got to tell you, it was the Secret Service over their failures and hold accountable the
Starting point is 00:03:05 people involved. I got to tell you, it was a great conversation because we don't pull punches. We are questioning whether there was an official capacity to this because of how this all went down. And this is why we want subpoenas and we want answers. So that'll be up at about 9.15. We'll roll tape on that, then jump back to Super Chats for the show. So get your Super Chats in, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with all your friends if you really do like it joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is the quartering hi how you doing i that was a great intro i'm glad to be here i'm really glad that you relocated the entire show just for me we were like we're gonna fly everything out for jeremy so we can have him on the show it's the
Starting point is 00:03:42 only way he doesn't he doesn't. When he does, he stops. Yeah, it's never been, like, nobody's ever been more accommodating than Tim Kast. And that's, you can put a stamp of approval. Rent out a whole conference, Enzer. Who are you? What do you do? My name is Jeremy. I have a daily live stream at 1 o'clock Eastern on Rumble.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I create videos on YouTube and cover news and pop culture not dissimilar than Tim. I've been doing it for about 10 years, so hopefully you'll check me out. Right on. Alex Stein is hanging out. Pimp on a blimp. Casperoo.com. Get some of that two-time grand coffee. And you know, Jeremy, I'm a big fan. We've never met in person, so for you to come out, this is a big deal. I think it's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yeah, it is. And I feel very anointed, very blessed with Jeremy's presence. Once I heard you'd be here. You're very lucky. I think Alex was swimming like literally 10 minutes before we left. I'm still soaking wet. You guys can't see my pants. Tim's wet. Oh, you are soaking wet.
Starting point is 00:04:32 You see how my pants are still wet? There's like the mark right here. It's a family-friendly show, please. Come on, come on. Take a seat, sir. It's an indoor pool. So, guys, we're in Milwaukee. A pimp on a pimp.
Starting point is 00:04:42 A pimp on a blimp's going to be a party. A pimp on a pimp. That's a new one. We got Luke Radowski hanging out. Hey, guys. Luke Radowski Milwaukee. A pimp on a pimp. A pimp on a blimp's going to be a party. A pimp on a pimp. That's a new one. We got Luke Rudowski hanging out. Hey, guys. Luke Rudowski, youtube.com forward slash wearechange. I do a lot of different videos. I do a lot of different podcasts. Today, I had Russell Brand on my show. Last week, Rob Schneider, Chase Oliver, Justin Amash.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Really fascinating conversations. Subscribe, youtube.com forward slash wearechange. Thanks for having me. Elad just got here. Hey, everybody. I am Elad Eliyahu, field reporter here at TimCast News. Tim, thanks for having me on with this superstar lineup. I'm excited
Starting point is 00:05:12 to get into it. What's up, Hannah Clare? Oh, hey. Well, I'm glad you could join us. I'm glad you're all here. I've never met Jeremy before ever, so it's cool to meet these people. It's all downhill from here. Oh, I'm Hannah Clare Brimel. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. I'm, you know, here kind of regularly. Thanks for everything you guys do. Let's get started. Here we go. This is the big news from the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:05:27 In a leaked phone call, Trump tries to coax Kennedy into his camp. This one's great. They say a leaked video of a phone call between former President Donald Trump and the independent presidential candidate RFK Jr. on the day after the attempted assassination of Trump offered a behind-the-scenes look into the former president's efforts to coax Mr. Kennedy out of the race and into his camp. The video was first posted early Tuesday morning
Starting point is 00:05:50 by Mr. Kennedy's eldest son, Bobby Kennedy III, and then swiftly deleted, according to screenshots of the original message and a person briefed on the matter. The younger Mr. Kennedy criticized Mr. Trump for his vice presidential pick and said he wanted to expose his real opinion on vaccinations. The video provides a glimpse of the private relationship between Trump and Kennedy, who have long been friendly, though Mr. Trump has publicly criticized Mr. Kennedy during the campaign. Mr. Kennedy apologized for the leaked video almost immediately on X, the same social media site where the video first appeared on Tuesday morning. When President Trump called me, I was taping with an in-house videographer.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I should have ordered the videographer to stop recording immediately. I am mortified that this was posted. So in this in this call, Trump basically is saying you should endorse me. We're going to win this. It would be really, really big for you. They go on in The New York Times to mention, quote, I want to do small doses, Mr. Trump said, before observing that the practice of giving multiple vaccinations at once means the shot, quote, looks like it's meant for a horse, not a, you know, a 10 pound or 20 pound baby.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Mr. Kennedy and the organization he co-founded, Children's Health Defense, have for years promoted claims about the health risks of childhood vaccinations that have repeatedly been refuted by studies, quote. And then you see the baby all of a sudden starting to change radically. I've seen it too many times. And then you hear that it doesn't have an impact. Right. But you and I talked about that a long time ago. Then Trump pivoted to an apparent effort to win his support.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I would love you to do something. I think it'll be so good for you and so big for you. And we're going to win. Kennedy's standing while wearing a shirt and tie says, yeah, barely audibly throughout the video. Mr. Kennedy says little else so I mean why did they leak this? How grounded is Bobby Kennedy 3?
Starting point is 00:07:33 You know like he must be in so much trouble with his dad. The fact that he was the one to post it I mean I just think that this is like you know I cannot remember imagine the father son screen match that occurred It was a fascinating conversation and there's a lot of history here, particularly with the backstory between RFK and Donald Trump. Now, if anyone you would want to talk about political assassinations with, it's with the
Starting point is 00:07:56 RFK family, especially after being targeted for assassination by what many people believe to be an internal plot by the government. But a couple years ago, Donald Trump was actually looking into investigating childhood vaccine schedules and said that he would launch an official investigation. RFK has always said that there was no double-blind placebo studies on these vaccinations. Donald Trump promised to give him one, and according to Bill Gates, this is according to him himself. He said that he was able to influence Donald Trump and stop that investigation from taking place. Bill Gates is heavily investigated in vaccinations. And this conversation was very eye opening and it could have been deliberately released in order to to make people understand where Donald Trump stands
Starting point is 00:08:41 on the vaccination issue, since I wouldn't be surprised if this was even an internal leak by Donald Trump himself to reassure people about his larger kind of vaccination stance. Well, I think we know that it was RFK Jr.'s kid who did post it and then quickly deleted it. The screenshots show that he posted it. And he's commented on it. He said that was a mistake. But everyone knows, you post something, delete it, the internet remembers it forever. I just bring that up because the suggestion then would be Donald Trump and RFK, they knew what was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:09:09 They wanted him to post it. And so it was basically a coordinated plan. What better way to make it look than an accident? Potentially. I'm just extrapolating here. It's like a soap opera plot for you. Potentially. And I want to say one thing.
Starting point is 00:09:19 You know, Del Bigtree's done some great research on this. And, you know, a lot of people, you know, we can only say so so much on youtube about vaccines but a lot of people blame vaccines for a lot of issues but actually the fact that men are having babies later that is actually one of the reasons that there's a higher occurrence of autism did you know that i i quality yeah yeah a lot of people blame that on vaccines but a lot of it is i thought a lot of people blame that on women as well everybody wants to blame it on vaccines and i I'm the biggest anti-whatever. I don't want to say it for you two. But there are other stuff that causes that that people don't talk about.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Men can have babies, too. I think we just don't talk about our health overall in the United States. I think it's a very, like, we maybe listen to the doctors. We kind of ignore it because it makes us think of our own mortality. And so I think generally it is good to pursue lifestyles that are healthy, having kids at a reasonable age, not in your 60s or whatever. But, you know, whether it be medicine or, you know, 30s or 40s, you're right. People defer for so long, whether it be medicine, lifestyle, exercise, whatever it is. I think American people get information that is not totally accurate. We had RFK Jr. on the show and what I love about him
Starting point is 00:10:23 and where his passion really shines is on environmental factors of all different cases and how they affect the endocrine system how they're negatively affecting our health and you can tell he's super passionate about it knowledgeable about about it he was talking about what like plastics and phthalates and all of these things and he's right and you know i we talk about smoking we used to they used to say like doctors recommend cool cigarettes because they taste rad. They would say, like, women, don't you want to, like, lose the baby weight or something? Right, right. There were ads in the past where it was like a teaspoon of sugar for that quick, low-calorie energy.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And it was like a woman spooning sugar in her mouth. So we update accordingly. That being said, I do want to shift towards what I really find interesting about this is Donald Trump calling RFK Jr. after someone nearly killed him. And I feel like he called him for advice. Exactly. Hey, you know, your family's really knowledgeable on this. We had RFK here on the show when we asked them, who do you think took out your uncle and your father? He said directly, yes, the CIA. So I think also the intelligence agencies were involved here from my own personal experience,
Starting point is 00:11:27 from what I gathered, from all the circumstantial evidence that we have right now. It is, in my opinion, a complete inside job. There's no other way to figure it out. But I'll pause you there. I don't know that I would agree to use the phrase inside job. I would say the idea that a lone crazy guy for 26 minutes was walking with a range finder and a gun and a ladder and like got on top of the police's own building is an absurdity. I think the simple way simple thing to say is possibly inside job, but there's more to this than a single guy who was crazy. There was some kind of coordinated effort.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Either it completely dismantled the security apparatus. The security apparatus was involved in some way, but negligence doesn't cut it. What I could say is that as a former 20-pound baby, I speak for all 20-pound babies, you started to touch on it. What an absolute pro Trump is. He literally just
Starting point is 00:12:18 survived the most probably traumatic thing he'd ever imagined he would survive. What's he doing next? He's like hey man we could we need an endorsement right and i really felt like that call was an indication that he was sort of like you should endorse me maybe there's a cabinet position in it for you yeah he is he is the art of the deal to the bone you cannot stop him and it's fascinating because kennedy you know he has uh he was he he had spoken out in, in support of Trump in
Starting point is 00:12:46 the days after. And I think that there is a coalition forming right now of voters who are like, well, we would like to see some partnership, some work between Trump and Kennedy in the future. They know Kennedy is a long shot candidate anyways. But again, his area of expertise is interest in the environment and health and the way medicine and the products we're using are affecting people is genuine. And I think Trump can see that that is something that American voters really want more of. Some other context to think about here. This wasn't a short
Starting point is 00:13:14 phone call. We saw a little bit, a snippet of it, but this was a multi-hour phone call between him and RFK. Not just discussing vaccines, they probably discussed the intelligence agencies, they probably discussed the intelligence agencies. They probably discussed conspiracies. I'm surprised they didn't do this phone call in a pool in an underground bunker with a Faraday cage all around them.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Because this was a call that the intel agencies probably were listening into and getting a lot of data out of. But the extent of it, how long it was, really does say that these guys have a lot more in common than we know about. I think this also tells to a fascinating political strategy that the Trump campaign is working on, because if they want RFK Jr. to drop out and endorse them, then that means they think that he takes more from them than he would from Joe Biden. Otherwise, you would want to keep him in the race. I don't know that I bear that out. I mean, there was just a poll done recently that said, you would want to keep him in the race. I don't know that I bear that out. I mean, there was just a poll done recently that said, you know, this is a Texas Senate race. So they're comparing Ted Cruz to the Democratic challenger. And they're saying that the majority of people who plan to support RFK also plan to vote
Starting point is 00:14:21 for Biden. I mean, yes, they want to vote for the Democratic candidate in Texas. They were also for RFK. Like, there are Democrats lining up behind RFK in a way that I think Trump supporters are not, especially in the wake of this weekend. But I don't agree with that. The math doesn't necessarily line up, right?
Starting point is 00:14:35 If RFK is pulling, let's say, I don't know, 3% from Trump and 6% from Joe Biden, then if Donald Trump gained those three points, it would effectively neutralize. I don't think Trump's won. This is not even an argument. from Joe Biden, then if Donald Trump gained those three points, it would effectively neutralize. I don't think... Trump's won. This is not even an argument. Trump has won. There's nothing right now. He doesn't need to play politics.
Starting point is 00:14:54 He doesn't need to play by the rules. He doesn't need to pander. He doesn't need to do all these diversity... He doesn't need to do that. He doesn't need all that. Trust me. I want to disagree, and I just want to say this. It's like, do you think Trump is that proud of J.D. Vance as his vice president? You think he really likes Epic that much? You think he is that proud?
Starting point is 00:15:09 Is that a Ferrari in the garage? No, I think it is. Oh, this is my Ferrari. I think it is a big deal because, I mean, I made this point last night. You don't think RFK would be a better candidate? No, I don't. I think that the importance of hillbilly elegy in the minds of American voters on the left and the right cannot be understated. I mean, the way that we talked about the fact that people knew about Trump from The Apprentice, they didn't see him necessarily as a politician at first.
Starting point is 00:15:33 They saw him as someone who entertained and talked in the same way. It's the same effect of J.D. Vance. J.D. Vance opened the eyes of like Appalachia and the Rust Belt to liberal Americans. And there's a power in that that you sorry, my headphones on tonight, so I can't hear my like they're too loud my ears are too sensitive but JD Vance really opened up the this part of America to to the liberal elite in a way that no one else could and I think that's one of the strategic reasons that this moment is why he is good if he stays in the Senate for too long that that's that momentum of hillbilly elegy falls apart and is behind what are you talking about your head yeah your audio's gone.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I need to stop gesticulating so wildly. I just need to be very still. But he did make fun of Trump in 2016 pretty badly. That's it, he's disqualified. No, I'm not saying that. Trump endorsed him in 2022 for his salary. Why did a guy like General Flynn, a real pimp on a blam, like somebody who's been with him?
Starting point is 00:16:22 He was also supportive of the vaccine as well. I think that there are a lot of really interesting people in the U.S. who could have made a great vice president. But I understand the rationale behind J.D. Vance. I think J.D. Vance is Trump's play to secure Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio where he's weakest. That's what I think, too. I don't think he needs it. I think he's won the election. I think it's clear.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I think Tucker Carlson called that he says it's clear right now after what happened. After he stood up, after he said fight, that's enough for everyone to vote for now after what happened after that after he stood up after he said fight that's enough for everyone to vote for look what happened in reagan uh in night and in 81 when they tried to assassinate him he swept almost three and a half years later he sweeps the country i mean that's an eternity in politics and to your point trump doesn't need uh so so trump should not just lay down now and say, that's it, I've won. That's ridiculous. J.D. Vance plays really well in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio.
Starting point is 00:17:10 That's why he wants him on the ticket, because when you look at the polling data, he won Pennsylvania. Right now, Pennsylvania is going Trump, especially after what happened. It's leaning Republican in Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina. I mean, Trump's securing these locations, but Wisconsin and Michigan are still toss-ups in the polling data. I don't think that's fair, because the internal polling data that got leaked shows it's the apocalypse for Biden based on his broken brain
Starting point is 00:17:34 alone. But Trump is saying, we don't just stop now. Now that everyone said, I can't lose, this is when you yell, charge. You pick J.D. Vance, you win the Rust Belt. Can I make a plea to the voters out there? I love all the Trump one stuff. I'm not like this.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I, it makes me really nervous when people say, Hey, Trump already won. Like, no, he's still going to take a Herculean effort for him to win in November. So I don't like,
Starting point is 00:18:01 I get nervous when I see all this, it's over. It's over. Not like going after you, Luke. I'm just saying, I see it in the headlines, right? It makes me nervous because people get complacent. Just remember, here's what I'll ask people to remember. Remember 2016 when everybody said
Starting point is 00:18:14 Hillary had it and it was going to be a landslide? And then it didn't happen. So like, people still need to get out and vote and they need to tell their friends to vote and they need to bring their cousins and everybody else. Because we're not just up against an argument. This was mistake republicans made in 2020 they said donald trump won the argument he had three great years they lied about all of these things covet is bad i'm not going to blame him for all of it but we we we want trump to win and here's the
Starting point is 00:18:37 argument we've presented and then democrats went out and ballot harvested yeah and the argument didn't matter i'm not saying take your foot off the pedal. I'm not saying take it easy. I'm not saying take a victory lap. I'm saying double down on being anti-establishment. If you have anyone in your inner circle
Starting point is 00:18:52 that's a part of the establishment, get rid of them immediately. Double down on the messaging of saying that you are not a part of the machine. The machine. Trump, exactly. This is exactly what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:19:02 for him to do, which would be more of a strategic move because months ago I was specifically saying his VP pick needs to be someone that will safeguard him from assassination. I was saying that specifically months and months ago. And to me, this was an okay pick. It wasn't the best pick, but he could have safeguarded himself in a more secure way by picking someone that's way more of an anti-establishment figure that would have scared the intel agencies from taking him out in the future i don't think trump is safe with this pick personally myself well whether or not trump is safe let's jump to this next story from the daily mail i love how they've headlined this can you spot the unusual feature of trump's security detail at the rnc two days after assassination attempt. Uh-huh. Yeah, no women. So Time Magazine wrote, what to know about women in Secret Service as critics blame DEI for Trump's shooting.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I don't like that excuse. There's too many abnormalities that, actually, I don't even want to say the word abnormality. The circumstances around the Trump assassination attempt do not align with the idea of a lone gunman who got lucky. It doesn't make sense. Now, I don't know what that does mean. We'll need an investigation, subpoenas, whistleblowers, etc. But many people are criticizing that Trump had, what, like four women in his Secret Service detail? Now, apparently, the woman that everyone is highlighting on the left isn't a part of Trump's traditional detail.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And she was additional security that ran to his aid and did not know what their plans were. So I don't think in that regard it's fair to criticize. I do think, however, it is fair to criticize that these women are not large enough to provide Trump cover, who is like a six foot one large man. And when these women are trying to surround him, I mean, look, it's honorable. These people use their bodies as shields for the people that we care about, but they're not large enough people. Yeah. And so outside of any training or whatever, I believe that this was an inappropriate detail. What do you make of the Jill Biden?
Starting point is 00:20:54 They shifted some people to a Jill Biden event not that far away. Right. How many? He was there. How many were there versus the Jill Biden event? Yeah. Yeah. So it's. The Secret Service has said, Biden? Yeah, so it's...
Starting point is 00:21:05 The Secret Service has said, oh no, everything was fine. We didn't divert resources away from Trump. It is hard to believe the Secret Service right now, like when they're like, no, we have debunked that. They're saying that they had a security threat from Iran on the day of the assassination. Is that really true? They'll say a whole
Starting point is 00:21:21 bunch of stuff. They'll tell you that there's weapons of mass destruction in Iran. They'll tell you anything they want to tell you. But to me, this is a total distraction. But they even admit themselves. There was a lot of specific warnings. Everybody watches, and I think Fox News edited this out. But you guys heard him say, what do we do? Did you guys hear that?
Starting point is 00:21:38 I didn't hear that. Who said what? You didn't hear that when they jumped on top of it? The woman said, what are we doing? They said, yeah, what are we doing? It was the woman who said, what are we doing? You don't think that's a little weird? You don't think they game plan?
Starting point is 00:21:46 Well, she's not normally on this detail. And this will come up with, because we already did the interview with Lauren Boebert. Representative Boebert was here, and we have a pre-recorded interview, which will air in a little bit. But she points out that this woman's not on that detail. Yeah, but... But I... What are we doing? I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:01 You're standing in the way. No, you're trying to over-communicate with the people. You don't know what just went on. There was just an assassination attempt. You pick him up immediately and you take him? It's just like, are we secure? Did they kill the shooter? Are we good?
Starting point is 00:22:12 What you're saying is, Trump has a security detail that has a plan. This woman is not a part of that detail. She ran to provide additional assistance. But you look at what happened. They allowed him to stand up during an active shooter situation and address the crowd. Never should have happened. You compare this to what happened in Reagan in 81. They had him out in a blink of an eye.
Starting point is 00:22:30 You compare the response times. You compare how they acted. Completely different. And it's inexcusable. It's absolutely something that we shouldn't accept at all. I think some of that comes down to the fact that a lot of the people there were women. I'm not saying it's not brave. You're not on that detail to rush the stage and do what you can. You know, we can acknowledge that. That's good. But the biggest issue for me is that, you know, they cannot physically shield this person. If that's what
Starting point is 00:22:55 we are saying with the people who are front lines right around Trump, that's what their job is to do. Trump is what, 6'1", 6'2"? It doesn't matter. Like, he's very tall. You have to be logical here. You need someone who is taller than him, bigger than him, who can form that protective wall. I mean, I know there were female Secret Service agents attached to the Bush daughters detail and other places. It's not that there aren't places for women to be in the Secret Service if that's what someone wants to do. The issue is literally logical. Can these people shield the person they're supposed to protect and the answer is no then we have a problem yeah woman i think can take a bullet just as good as a man can i don't really have an issue with women being in secret service i know that people may disagree with me but the implication is that when you have a literal quota of 30 we want to have 30 women then the natural question is as it always is is with DEI and gender and race initiatives, is that are you, the implication is, the question is, are you perhaps lowering standards? You have to. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Look at what they do in the military, right? Half of these people could never pass the physical requirements that they used to have to do eight years ago. And so that's the bigger concern for me is like, how low is the bar now to meet a number? I just want to say, look, these ladies, look at this picture picture let's pull this picture back up they can't lift donald trump no chop well i got they can't lift themselves they got look they deserve every right as every other person and i wish them long happy lives i think there's a role for them in the secret service that matters but it's certainly not with donald trump that's more than 50 women in that picture it is that's right and they can't I mean when we talk about
Starting point is 00:24:25 Trump being on the stage for as long as he was right like somebody said to me Oh, well He was there because they didn't want to move him when there was an active shooter like move like to me This seems very odd and one of the things that I immediately thought after somebody was like oh because it's majority women They cannot physically push him offstage, and that's a problem right right. I wouldn't let these women watch my dog Like you don't let anybody watch your dog. Come on. I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:24:49 She could barely holster her firearm correctly. She's bumbling around. No, I'm sorry. That's inexcusable. Guys, but we're talking about the women. They have drone surveillance. There's only one perch that is even accessible to shooting the president
Starting point is 00:25:04 in that entire place in Pennsylvania. It's secure. What is going on? I mean, it doesn't matter how many lesbians you have there. They had a serious issue of insubordination by not having somebody there. being presented in the press that they want it to be is that women are the reason they didn't secure quite literally the only sniper vantage point to the president like if if you were going to secure an area with one building next to it it's not a hard job to do and they're coming out being like well maybe you know there's no women even a woman could do it is that what you're
Starting point is 00:25:40 saying i'm saying that i don't think't think the narrative of a crazed gunman climbed in a building makes sense because there's one building to secure and they did not. Well, they were inside the building, so is that good enough? That was one of the weirdest things to me. What's going on on the roof?
Starting point is 00:25:55 What is that? They hear footsteps and they're like, oh, crazy. What about the footage of the snipers moving the tripod? Do you know what I'm talking about? You guys said... I don't think they were the ones that took out the shooter. Call me a conspiracy theorist. I don't think they were the ones that moving the tripod. Do you know what I'm talking about? You guys said... They recoiled, they went back, and they tried to hide. I don't think they were the ones that took out the shooter.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Call me a conspiracy theorist. I don't think they were the ones that took them out. It could have been the cops. That's what I think. Those two in the picture, I don't think. I think it was local. No, no. I did not think those two in this picture, too.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Again, I'm going to refer to this ABC interview that Kimberly Cheadle, the director of the Secret Service, did yesterday. And she said, the buck stops me and it's it's our responsibility secret service to protect former president but we weren't in charge of securing that building that was local police like she's immediately shifting the blame away from herself and again that begs the question like if it was a local state troop or anything else who took out took out that that the shooter doesn't he deserve some sort of recognition and credit like hopefully these things come out because the secret Service is somehow both claiming credit. And there were obviously brave agents who took action that day.
Starting point is 00:26:48 But overall, they seem to have failed. Well, I think we could widely agree that the Secret Service and law enforcement failed on every level here. I think one of the most more troubling things to deal with, though, is that most congressmen and senators or i think almost none have security so only you know former presidents and their first ladies and some of their family really has the secret service and i don't know what this means for those people um we've seen the political climate get more heated recently um nancy pelosi's husband was attacked recently i think there was an attack against one of the um supreme court justices um of, the congressional baseball game a handful of years ago. People forgot that one real quick.
Starting point is 00:27:28 What does this say for those people? If allegedly a lone gunman can get through Secret Service, what does that say for everybody else? I just want to stress that if I were to write a script and this was the story, they'd be like, I know you're writing a fiction action movie, but this is not believable. Like, at least make it a little realistic.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Well, and Kimberly Cheadle was on Biden's detail when he was vice president, from what I read in the statement when he acknowledged her appointment. And so there has to be a level of like, at one point you were theoretically good at this. I mean, nothing happened to him. What happened now where this agency
Starting point is 00:28:02 seems to be in disarray? Can we give a shout out to, I think, Elon's absolutely epic burn of reminding people that she was previously in charge of defending Cheetos before defending the president? She went from the Biden administration to PepsiCo. PepsiCo is one of the most powerful companies. That's true. That's true. It is true, though. Yeah, so it was a demotion true. It is true, though.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Yeah, so it was a demotion. She got promoted to PepsiCo. She must have screwed up at Pepsi. I mean, could you imagine if Pepsi was actually behind this? We need whistleblowers at Pepsi. Well, I'm kidding. Obviously, they're not. But it's funny that she changes jobs, and there's always jokes about revolving doors in politics. And it's like she takes this position.
Starting point is 00:28:41 It was Pepsi the whole time. I'm kidding, guys. Pepsi's delicious. Calm down. I just love that the excuse now. Why isn't Time Magazine writing the article saying, hey, no reasonable person could conclude that one guy was able to pull this off. Instead, they're like, critics are coming out blaming women.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Perhaps. Perhaps it was the women's fault. And then you've got the article from Daily Mail being like, Trump no longer has women. That could have been a coincidence, too. For sure, for sure. But I think they will make DEI the very easy scapegoat because conservatives will eat it up. Which also means that that's the thing they're willing to sacrifice first, right? They're so dedicated to it. They're like, actually, that's to blame. It can't possibly be us being bad at this.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Look at Microsoft today, right? I'm sure it's just a coincidence, but since DEI is a literal like hot button get out of jail free card right now microsoft's like uh we're just spending our di entire di department like i wonder what's coming down the pipeline from microsoft that they're gonna i want them out i gotta show this video everyone's gotta see it this is um i i it says at point consciousness posted this jed Jedi Hill posted the video. This is a slow motion. They wireframe Trump's head. Then they show an overhead view, a 3D rendering of the path of the bullet and Trump's movements literally two or three seconds before.
Starting point is 00:29:59 And watch this. Take a look what happened. Take a look. This is what's really fascinating. When the head on the bottom is an overhead shot of a wireframe of Trump's face, it really does track. See the head tilt? The head on the bottom tilts slightly at an angle towards the left. Trump's head up top does exactly that. There's the head on the bottom tilts slightly at an angle towards the left trump's head up top does exactly that there's the head tilt and then the bullet hit his ear if trump did not tilt his head that way
Starting point is 00:30:33 look what that it would have gone right through his head right and if that's that's how his eye this is literally how close we came to full pandemonium and to the end of america this would have brought up so much civil strife, so much civil conflict. We are blessed. We are extremely lucky that he tilted his head or that there was even wind. The real quick, the line, it's his eye.
Starting point is 00:30:55 It's through his eye. He moved slightly. That's just insane. It's crazy. And that bullet that hit him made him move farther back because it looks like in that shot, a couple other bullets go very quickly past him again. I mean, it could have been really terrible.
Starting point is 00:31:10 And yet it's just like everything fell into place. I mean, I think it's like God intervention to make this happen. And, you know, the thing is, Trump is a very physically courageous man. You know, there were times that protesters have gotten on stage And he's sort of like turned and gotten bigger to confront them and it is it is Amazing that this is the path that he is on because I just don't know anyone who could have been hit like that Gone I can't you have to go into some kind shows up for work on Monday be like where are my shoes? I've got to tell this crowd. I'm okay. I mean it's really shit went for the headshot. He didn't have to Target he could have got that if you. He could have gone for mass.
Starting point is 00:31:46 There could have been a goal for a vest. Trump wears a vest. I don't know if he's wearing a vest here. I don't know if it would have been able to protect him from this shot. But you're taught when you shoot to go for center of mass. I think this guy was aiming for the head. Well, he was. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:32:00 And look at this. This is slow motion. This is, I mean, it's crazy. Trump's head's lined up. And then within a couple seconds, it's this is a slow motion video from zero to four seconds is when that shot rings out. And we're talking about this is slowed down to about 70, 60 percent. So we're looking at two and a half seconds where Trump moves his head and what would have gone through his eye and at the back of his skull grazes his ear. You know, they said that this kid didn't make the
Starting point is 00:32:30 rifle team at his high school because he was so bad. What does the rest of the rifle team like? I know, but this is like Lee Harvey Oswald was just a crack shot. Yeah, yeah. He didn't make his high school shooting team or whatever? Allegedly, yeah. Where is the rest of this team then? They must be the most amazing ever.
Starting point is 00:32:45 We're hearing reports that he practiced the day before. A lot of people are calling him Retardy Oswald. He wasn't too far on the roof, so he didn't even need to be that good of a shot. The distance was pretty close. I think he missed it by, if you ever start target shooting, sometimes early you jerk the trigger a little bit and it pops. Not on a long gun. I think a cop was
Starting point is 00:33:07 confronting him on a ladder so that he had to rush the shot as well. Obviously nerve-wracking. But long guns are much, much easier for people who are beginners to learn how to use. One comment that I think makes a lot of sense is that he didn't train outdoors. He didn't compensate
Starting point is 00:33:23 for wind. And so at that range it altered the best however i don't know that i even care for that when you look at that wire frame it looks like enough no it looks like he did have him this yeah he had him lined up and he was ready to go and then trump went head turn and then went down and he he probably had him in his sights let's jump to this next story this This is from the New York Post. Huge news. Blindsided Jack Black addresses tenacious D bandmates shameful comment about Trump assassination attempt. So Jack Black said, let me see if we have the, this is the actual statement from the video. I'll play the video for you guys first. Jack Black said he was blindsided.
Starting point is 00:34:00 He's canceling the tour. All future creative works are shut down. This is what happened at their event. Here's the tour. All future creative works are shut down. This is what happened at their event. Here's the video. Quick setup. Jack Black of Tenacious D is singing to his bandmate Kyle Gass. Happy birthday to you. Make a wish. Don't miss Trump next time. Everybody gasps.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Edgy, edgy joke. We've got a bunch of updates to go through. This was the remainder of their tour dates. They had 11 tour dates, nine of which were sold out, all shut down. Now, what was crazy to me was hearing this,
Starting point is 00:34:39 that it seemed like what happened was, with Jack Black not addressing this on stage, with not hearing any word until the next day, it seemed like Jack must have gone to Kyle Gass and said, apologize, Kyle said no. News, however, this morning, Kyle Gass did apologize, posting, I'm sorry, this is Jack Black. Let me pull up the Kyle Gass statement on Instagram. Yeah, this isn't an apology. No, this is Jack Black saying, I was blindsided after much reflection. I no
Starting point is 00:35:06 longer feel it is appropriate to continue the tenacious detour and all future creative plans are on hold. I am grateful to the fans for their support and understanding. We then had this from Kyle Gass. He said this morning, the line I improvised on stage Sunday night in Sydney was highly inappropriate, dangerous,
Starting point is 00:35:22 and a terrible mistake. I don't condone violence of any kind in any form against anyone. What happened was a tragedy, and I'm incredibly sorry for my severe lack of judgment. I profoundly apologize to those I've let down and truly regret any pain I've caused. Now, what I've heard since then throughout the day, they're not, I don't know if they're actually sincere or they actually care. Rumor is they didn't intentionally cancel their tour. The insurance companies said, we cannot insure you when you say these things and we are out.
Starting point is 00:35:52 The venues then said, if you don't have insurance, you don't have a show. And that ended the tour and they have no recourse on that. And there's a Senator Ralph Babbitt. He's an Australian senator sent a message saying they should be deported. He said that there's no place in Australia for anyone who calls for another person's assassination and he contrasted it to the way australia reacted when novak djokovic sorry guys he's a tennis player i can't say it oh yeah he he was deported from australia because he didn't get the vaccine when he was trying to play in the australian open i mean it was fascinating to see him say
Starting point is 00:36:24 you know we treated this guy like he was going to endanger our nation. We should treat this type of extreme rhetoric the same way. Well, I just want to say this. I'm a free speech absolutist, so I really could care less if Cowgast said it.
Starting point is 00:36:34 And you know what? I think he was just trying to be edgy and funny. I bet he doesn't even really want Donald Trump to die. He doesn't. I don't think he did. I disagree. He meant it. You think he won?
Starting point is 00:36:42 He 100% meant it. I don't think so. Team Low Road. I will say, You think he won? No. He 100% meant it. I don't think so. Team Low Road. I will say, I think he said what a lot of people on the far left do believe. Well, I interviewed people on the street. Communists do want, who do believe, like Donald Trump is Hitler, did want him to get shot in the head. Here's what I, I do not think Kyle Gass actually wanted that.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I think that for the past 15 or so years, liberals have built a culture of calling for violence, saying punch a Nazi, advocating for these things, depicting themselves holding up Trump's head or still in the hospital. And Donald Trump also took a bullet to the side of his head. They still are living in this world where it's okay to make these jokes. And now, uh-oh, what they don't realize is that when they would go on social media and say punch a Nazi and get away with it, because they had control of the cultural levers all that it matters now is the insurance company said um mr mr black you you do realize that there are crazy people who have just tried to kill the president of the united front runner for the presidency and a former president uh yeah if you're saying you want that to happen we can't provide insurance for your venue and they're going whoa but but we make these jokes all the time did you see how it's changed do you see the cnn clip where she started to say that anchor today started to say oh they're aiming for trump or something she's like we got it right here yeah let's play it let's play it here we go he has said many many times after having been questioned many times about this that he's not stepping down and he's
Starting point is 00:38:18 going to be the nominee so at some point democrats have to decide that they want to try to win this election and turn their fire on Donald Trump. I think there is. I shouldn't have said turn their fire. I apologize. That was not the phrase that I meant. They need to turn their focus on Donald Trump. They're hardwired that this was OK for so long. And it's like they didn't open the email. Do we need a pearl clutch this much? Do we really think that like that turn of phrase? No, but it is kind of a rhetoric that's like this kind of like, you know... I do not care on a normal day that someone says turn their fire or put them in the bullseye or whatever. The issue is the snowflake doesn't blame itself for the avalanche.
Starting point is 00:38:59 And after 10 years of them saying this man is literally Hitler who must be stopped by any means necessary, and then after someone actually takes a shot at the man and kills an innocent bystander, they they it is right. It is correct for them. And I respect that. She said, I shouldn't have said it that way. I respect it. The snowflakes are starting to recognize now, like like Kyle Gas and this one at CNN, that
Starting point is 00:39:20 they are the avalanche causing these things. And I'm not saying fire them. I actually think we should accept the apology of Kyle Gass. I like tenacious D. They support Joe Biden. That's fine. Kyle Gass came out and said, I profoundly apologize.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I should not have said this. I accept your apology. Because now with that apology, and with us accepting it, they're going to go back on stage, acknowledging the way the culture has shifted. We will not tolerate this. J.D. Vance once called Trump an American Hitler.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Is he, to piggyback on your metaphor, a snowflake? For all the shooter, I've known that, you know, the apology isn't heard. Didn't I just say we should accept an apology? The extreme rhetoric is what everybody hears. And then, you know, nobody hears the apology. Didn't I just say, if you make an apology, I accept it? And that makes it all okay? I did. Absolutely. And so J.D. Vance has come out
Starting point is 00:40:09 a long time after those comments he made saying it was inappropriate. He shouldn't have said those things. He's realized why he was wrong, and now he's literally the VP. That's why I'm for Paths to Redemption. What we show, I say bring back Tenacious D. Bring back the tour. Guys, come on back.
Starting point is 00:40:25 I understand you made a joke. You didn't realize the nature of what you were saying. You've apologized for it. And now what we do is we wave that flag around to make sure everyone knows, do not say this about Donald Trump. Do not engage his behavior. It is no longer acceptable. And you will lose your livelihood and your job. We don't want to see that happen to you.
Starting point is 00:40:43 So be nice and play fair. No, I'll take like 20 of these people getting canceled forever. Thank you very much. The beautiful trend on the right, this theme of redemption, it's a Christian theme. People talk about it a lot. We see it a lot on the right. So it's such a beautiful thing. I'm not Christian. Well, part of that is forgiveness, right? Like if someone apologizes, begs for your forgiveness, that is supposed to be one of the ways to seek redemption i mean really the other part of that is that you're not supposed to just continue on with the behavior it's not enough it's not it's not enough to say like oh i'm sorry i didn't mean it that one time and then be like well i'm going to use a different allusion to violence to talk about this like you have to repent and change course but i think that there has to be a path
Starting point is 00:41:22 for both things like you can remember that someone did something wrong but if they repent be like okay how do we move forward because if we always get stuck in these cycles of like well you said this main thing and i said this main thing and whatever else like there's no there's no way forward from there the most important thing i see here is if we tell kyle gas and jack black who have tens of millions of fans jack black who is in these blockbuster children's movies that there's no path to redemption i guarantee you what they do they don't want to be poor they don't want to lose their livelihoods they're going to say okay they're gonna have a business meeting and say we have basically lost the entirety of conservative and moderate america what do we do and they're
Starting point is 00:41:59 going to say if we lean into this the progressives will keep giving us money and it's better than zero do you think they care? They care about the conservatives? I don't know. No, no, no. They care about making money and they're scared that insurance companies drop them. If they're forced to endorse the far left to stay afloat, they will do it. I don't want them going on the path.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I want Kyle Gass and Jack Blake to come out and say it was wrong of us to make these comments about Donald Trump. And that shows deference. And I say, thank you, gentlemen. The new society, the society that we want, the America that we want does not tolerate calls for assassination against political leaders. You've apologized for that. And let that be a lesson to everybody else. We don't tolerate those calls for violence. If we say no to your apology, they will they will double down. They will they will go to all the far leftists and say, will you guys give us money and support if we double down on this? Because they will they will go to all the far leftists and say will you guys give us money in support if we double down on this because they've exercised they've ostracized us i know i think your point is extremely valid i just feel like nobody on the right has ever been extended
Starting point is 00:42:52 that grace before because they're evil mine and we're not but we sometimes you speak people and you speak to them in the language that they understand i don't think that kyle and jack black are evil people i think they're doofy they're doofy normies and they're they're marching about as the culture told them it was okay kyle gas made this joke because all of these people have been going online and getting away with it for so long that it's normalized to them let's take that normalization away does jack black have any trans kids i don't know i don't know if it's a lot of hollywood i do think this is part of it though like maybe the tour is just cancelled because Black Jack Is like
Starting point is 00:43:25 Jack Black that guy My favorite part of Black Jack Jack Black is like I don't want to be on stage with you right now I actually feel really upset about what you did I think that was too far There is a rumor He unfollowed Kyle Gass On Instagram really? There is a rumor There is a rumor He unfollowed Kyle Gass Look
Starting point is 00:43:45 And look Maybe it's like On Instagram really And maybe it's not like Because he's like Oh you can't talk about Trump That way Maybe it's like
Starting point is 00:43:52 Because you're costing His 10 cents a minute Whatever it is Yeah he's trying not to Mess up his Kung Fu Panda money Right but Whatever there is Whatever reason
Starting point is 00:43:58 Like maybe the venues Cancel him But also maybe They themselves as a band Have been split over this issue Whether it be financial Or ethical Yeah I mean Jack Black is definitely Like Tim said I 100% agree maybe they themselves as a band have been split over this issue, whether it be financial or ethical.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Yeah. I mean, Jack Black is definitely like, like Tim said, a hundred percent agree. Like obviously he's a Biden guy, but I still like him and I still like some of his movies, especially high fidelity shout out.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I think he's a talented musician. I've seen them live before. He's just a kind of a normie. I would say I would be willing to accept that Jack Black is a normie Democrat. I don't know anything. I know less about Kyle Gass. He certainly, they both laughed. They didn't issue any apology until after the backlash.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I would have accepted it. I would have been more willing to accept it if they immediately put it out after the show. I know I laughed. I was nervous. I didn't know how to react. This is not okay. We talked about it. You know, they didn't do anything until what I believe their venues canceled on them anyway.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Or that they got a call from Disney. I don't know for sure if that's real, the venues canceled on them. I will say we are quite literally in a conference room with contracts and insurance. We do this stuff all the time. I've made this point all the time that often it's not about what you as an individual hosting a show wants to do. Good examples when we were at TP USA and I said, I think people should be allowed to keep in bare arms all the time. And Charlie responded, I don't ban guns. The state, the city, the venue, they ban guns. And then it comes upon us when we set up an event and our insurance company, our security companies and everybody says, we will not provide a service to you because we can't secure it if people have guns.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And we're like, well, it's not even about what we choose to do. So with that in mind, when Jack Black comes out and says, I no longer feel it's appropriate to continue the tour. Certainly, it seems like a dramatic overreaction to say there's no tour and no and no future plans anymore. No, I think this is him is saving face instead of them coming out and saying our venues have all pulled from us and we've become pariahs, he's saying no, no, I've made the high road choice to say we shouldn't because we're good people. I think they're in panic mode. You're right. Or ticket sales low,
Starting point is 00:45:54 tour didn't sell out. And where were the other stops? Except for two. Were they mostly in Australia? No, half of them are Australia and New Zealand, but there was Wisconsin, there was Ohio, I think there was Indiana. TNHD is a big band. I mean, they've been touring for- I just didn't know if they were on their specific international leg or something.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And look, I mean, go watch Pick of Destiny, classic 2000s movie. Great, love it. It's hokey silliness. It's not crazy, weird stuff. It's not for kids, but it's just, it's goofy. They defeat Satan. Satan's a bad guy. They fight him in a rock off and take his horn from him.
Starting point is 00:46:22 But he can shred, I think, if I remember correctly. He can shred, yeah, yeah. It's a bad guy. They fight him in a rock-off and take his horn from him. But he can shred, I think. He can shred, yeah. It's a funny movie. And like I said, these guys live in this liberal culture where they were allowed... It's not so much that they're allowed to do it. It's that people were posting these things and getting followers from it. So in their minds, they're thinking, this is what the people want. This is what they expect. And now that's changed.
Starting point is 00:46:40 There's somebody going on a pretty wild meltdown on Twitter right now. And they're gaining a lot of followers, too. So it's still getting positively reinforced, at least on social media, when people are saying stuff like, Oh, screw that fireman who passed away heroically protecting his family. It's still out there, but at least... Well, let's jump to the story. We've got a series of stories. This is from WHYY.org.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Delaware County Fire Chief resigns over controversial facebook post on trump assassination attempt this one's from whiskey riff home depot employee fired for nasty donald trump comments saying too bad they weren't better wait come on hold on we got more we got more home depot the kansas city star sex we got anyway we got more school worker fired over facebook post about trump assassination attempt officials say we've got this one. Bell Marine instructor no longer an employee after remarks about attempted Trump assassination over and over and over again. We're getting these stories. And Libs of TikTok has been posting comments from nurses, from teachers, from employees.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And then I don't know. One of you guys can clarify this for me. Is Libs the person who's actually sending the messages or just posting them? Are they sending, is Haya sending the messages, the posts to employers? No, I don't think so. I think just people on the internet probably are. saying and then people are reaching out to the to the schools to the fire department to the to the businesses and getting these people fired in home depot this image you're seeing right here this was a guy who saw her post and then went there and said are you so and so and she's like yes he's like you said this thing and she's like excuse me i'm at work she got fired from this now alex you have that lesbian her job back damn i mean what do you mean look at her you really think that she cares if the president is going to die?
Starting point is 00:48:25 Like, whatever. I mean, somebody wants to think that. I went and I asked people on the street, you know, what do you think about what happened to Donald Trump? They said, oh, a BB gun hit him. Some people don't give a damn. I mean, she has an opinion. She can have that opinion. And I think Home Depot should fire her.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Have you ever tried getting help at Home Depot? It's impossible. Let's be serious. Everybody wants to argue cancel culture is wrong, cancel culture is bad. We talked about it a little bit last night, but I'll explain why Home Depot should fire her. Home Depot is trying to sell goods and services, and
Starting point is 00:48:57 she's going into public forums and calling for the death for criminal activities that would destroy this country, rip apart the fabric of society. Now, I don't like that there's a threat to free speech in this regard, but I respect a private business saying, hey, you're engaging in what is borderline criminal behavior, calling for the assassination of a president.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Like, that gets you a knock on the door by the feds and the Secret Service. If you want to do that, you can, but not if you're working here, because we're just trying to sell lumber and gardening tools. Now, should people be reaching out and hunting these people down and doing all this stuff? I'm not a fan of that.
Starting point is 00:49:31 But I'm also not going to defend people who are calling for the death of the frontrunner because it's a danger to our democracy. Sounds like MSNBC. There's a lot of crazy people out there who believe crazy things. Some people don't believe Trump really got shot.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Some people believe 9-11 was an inside job. Some people think vaccines don't do anything and aren't effective. What are you trying to say here? Hold on a minute. So, you know, a lot of people believe crazy things and, you know, we're not. You're missing like the shooter did. We're not talking about believing something. We're talking about people advocating for and calling for the death of an individual.
Starting point is 00:50:11 And we're still the front runner for our presidential elections. Now, I again, I'm not saying anyone should go out and contact businesses. Me, I'd probably just be like, I'm going to write that person off. Two things. If a business thinks that you're causing harm to them in a reasonable manner, it is not reasonable for Twitter to ban someone for a political opinion. It is not reasonable for someone to fire a person from the company over something they said years and years ago.
Starting point is 00:50:36 But if you are actually working for a company and espousing things in public that reflect on that company, I'm not surprised. And private businesses have the right to say, look, we don't want to work with you on this regard, just as long as they're being reasonable but more importantly this is bordering on criminal activity that that's that's that's a problem the only thing i can contrast it with quickly is like if this home depot cashier was posting on facebook you know someone in my local community should unalive themselves or should get beat up or something like that like if they were calling for something like that to happen with like i don't know someone who lives in this town
Starting point is 00:51:08 or this area uh is that like and i don't know off the top of my head like how would police respond to that how would home depot respond to that because there is you know obviously there are consequences for posting threatening things online uh it's not exactly a parallel to this but like again we don't treat all speech equally as much as we believe in. I don't blame this woman. I blame the intel agencies that have promoted Trump derangement syndrome through social media, through the corporate media. They're the ones that have gaslit and manipulated the American people to be so polarized here. And if we look at all of this, I blame the intel agencies. Now, you could say inside job, you could say it's not an inside job. They had a hand when it came to radicalizing Americans to hate Donald Trump, to think that he's Hitler, to think that he's going to be attacking democracy.
Starting point is 00:51:54 So at the end of the day, this woman is a byproduct of what a lot of Americans are thinking, but they aren't saying. So I understand whether we're going to cancel her or not, but the bigger conversation needs to be the gaslighting of the American people. I agree, and I want to stress a point. I had a great discussion the other day on principles and morals. We've talked about it on this show.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And one example I like to give on the sort of the meaninglessness of this principle statement people give. I think morals matter more. There are people on the right who say uh people on the left say the government shouldn't tell people what to do with their bodies and then they call for vaccine mandates then people on the right will say the government shouldn't also i disagree they shouldn't be allowed to tell us what our dude the vaccine mandates are wrong these people are hypocrites but would absolutely intervene
Starting point is 00:52:41 with the state if a doctor prescribed a child sex change to a kid, intervening with the choices a parent would make on their own health care. Because it's not about the principle of states should not intervene. That's meaningless to both factions. It's about the moral lines that we're willing to draw. And now I will stress this point. If a person goes on Twitter and says, I'm not a fan of gay marriage, and you say, we're going to take your job from you, that's unreasonable.
Starting point is 00:53:04 That statement in no way negatively impacts a business in a reasonable manner. Now, people may get upset with your business, say your person's got bad opinions, but everybody has bad opinions. Someone advocating for and lamenting the fact that an assassination of a political leader did not happen. In this instance, she said, too bad they weren't a better shooter. She said, he's the definition of corrupt and evil. That's the line. The reason why my moral line says I won't tolerate this, the end result of this avalanche that they're causing with advocating for assassinations resulted in a dead man who was shot and killed protecting his family. And I got to be completely honest, like, if Donald Trump took that hit, we're talking like Viva Frye said, Franz Ferdinand level, World War III, international collapse.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yo, these people aren't just going on and saying, I have a bad political opinion. They're saying the world should be ripped asunder. And we have to at some point say, okay, guys, at the very least, chill out on this. Now, that being said, Raymond G. Maga Stanley Jr. asked if she apologized, get your job back. 100%. I 100% think so and i and i actually do have a weariness about me that people are are messaging their businesses and saying hey look what they're posting and all that stuff but the one one thing i'll add lastly before i shut up and stop ranting
Starting point is 00:54:15 this never would have happened that the average person would be going out to public square like the town center yelling they want this to happen. Nobody would do that. They think they can go online and say whatever they want. But I will stress again, 10 years ago, when someone went on Twitter and said, learn to code and got banned is not the same thing as going into the public square and calling for advocating for or wishing that an assassination would take place. That's that's way outside the social contract. I think I would say these are the same people who would have laughed about people being banned and said, oh, freedom of speech, but not freedom from consequences. What I'll say about people, several of these people, I would say it's a stretch to say they're calling for it. Some people did. Some people more like, oh, I wish you didn't miss. I think I don't feel great about
Starting point is 00:55:03 kind of witch hunting these people down and getting them fired. I wouldn't advocate for them to be fired because just because they have a vile opinion. I don't really care one way or the other. They're allowed to have it. But I don't care that. In my opinion, you don't want to become what you're fighting. And if we're going to cast blame, it should be on the intel agencies that are the ones that are calling for a lot of this radicalism. There has to be social order. I do hear what what you're saying but there has to be social order this guy
Starting point is 00:55:28 i'm not going to show his name said a little to the right next time please saying next time please is an ad is a call for action he is saying he wants it to happen again and he wants him to get it right we have to have moral standards we can't have people running around society going to each other and saying someone should do it right next time because this is the the left calls it stochastic terrorism when the right says things like illegal aliens that aren't in the country many of them are criminals that's not what is stochastic terrorism is when the media comes out and i go to look on this one and says trump is an existential threat to us and our democracy and must be stopped by any means necessary. And then they pause and go at the ballot box is where we'll do it.
Starting point is 00:56:10 But it's like, OK, dude, we know what you're doing. It is the oh, won't someone rid me of this meddlesome priest? Now, that being said, I think it's fair to say we do believe in free speech. And I don't like the idea that people will say what they truly believe and then have their lives ruined over it. My only stance is this. Like I said, I will not engage in hunting people's jobs down, getting them fired. I don't think anyone should be doing that, but I will never defend people who are on the side of the destruction of our morals, our lives. There's a reason why one of the Ten Commandments, honor thy father and thy mother,
Starting point is 00:56:45 and it doesn't matter if you're religious or not, it's that we want to maintain the roots to our moral ancestry to maintain a cohesive and functioning system. And like Dennis Prager points out, if you cut the flower from its roots, it'll look beautiful for a little while before it dies. So we want to maintain a basic moral standard and say, guys, let's not cross that line lest the whole thing fall apart. It'll be nice to see if you had, you know, I don't think firing some Home Depot cashier changes things much other than, you know, for them personally. But I do agree that also the media companies that have been using inflammatory rhetoric, you know, I'm not, it's real a tight line for me because I feel extremely uncomfortable when we're talking about policing speech, especially in America.
Starting point is 00:57:28 But when you look at the, you can only turn up the temperature in the pot for so long before it boils. And I think the media does probably bear some level. I mean, if Alex Jones can lose everything he has for asking, you know, for, for, you know, reporting, you know, reporting whatever what he thought was true. Certainly some of these media agencies that have spent years whipping people up into a fervor and living in fear and telling them that this will be the last time they ever vote. You know, I think there should be some responsibility, maybe from Donald Trump directly. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:58 I think I think there's something challenging, too, that we have to confront. And it's that we want to live in this world of hard principle principle we believe in free speech that means people are allowed to express their ideas so long as they don't engage in violence the problem is that can only go so far until your system collapses and then you are surrounded by psychopathic communists who want to throw you in a gulag and take your rights from you the left made this argument with the carl popper meme that if you tolerate intolerance eventually intolerance wins because you are letting them do it. They're not wrong. If we sit back, and we did this 10 years ago, and I reject this ideology that I held 10 years ago,
Starting point is 00:58:34 somebody on the left would advocate for all of us to be banned. Some would say, hashtag learn to code, people like Destiny, for instance, and he'd say it's a private company, they can do what they want. And we'd say that's completely unreasonable because we're not acting outside of social contract. We're not calling for violence, breaking any laws. We're expressing an opinion, which isn't even that bad then when they would get censored all of us would run full speed to say we believe in free speech unban them and the first thing they do when they get unbanned is do everything in their power to get us banned and i'm like okay guys at a certain point stop handing rocks that people throwing rocks
Starting point is 00:59:01 at you so while i believe in free speech i said this about a year ago i am now of the mind that i will defend the rights of those who believe rights should be defended i will not advocate for the taking of anyone's rights but i will never defend someone who's on the side of the destruction of our system and our way of life they they've reaped what they have sown i will phrase it very simply if an individual advocates for censorship if they support the regime which has censored us and colluded with the federal intelligence, with the central intelligence agencies, the national intelligence agencies, which we know Facebook and Twitter, I'm not X, sorry, we're doing, then I will never come to the defense. I will put it simply. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:59:41 You've won. This is what you wanted. you lost your job for saying naughty words that was the world you fought for and you have received congratulations on all your efforts well a lot of people say if the tables are turned that we would like it if joe biden was you know an attempted assassination on him and that's false because no way joe biden fell off that bicycle i cried nobody liked seeing him fall off that bicycle really emotional i was every papa okay look we were joking aside everyone on the right every disaffected liberal middle of the road whatever said joe biden should retire and spend time with his family and relax the left has said trump must be stopped by any means necessary existential threat he's hitler and look what happens i have said over and over again joe
Starting point is 01:00:24 biden should be sitting in his rocking chair in a sunroom with a with a blanket on his lap as he goes to sleep and his grandkids come and bring him ice cream cones right it's important to talk about joe biden's role in all of this i think the media companies are are culpable for some of the tension that's been growing in america but joe biden in the campaign as an entity uh pushed a rhetoric that was that political violence was imminent in america because of this terrible person and he was uh an existential threat and you have to do whatever it takes either there's no way that trump could be elected and then afterwards as soon as all of these terrible things happen to trump uh and and especially to uh to the firefighters and to the
Starting point is 01:00:59 people who are injured in the crowd uh they said well we should really turn down yeah everyone chill out right everyone chill out but then biden is also saying oh well i'm not going to not attack him and i didn't say that thing and he's not taking any accountability like there's no turn off ads for like a day okay that's still not the same thing though quiet trying to quietly turn off ads is very different than saying like i had really strong language i uh i don't want anyone who supports me to take these kinds of actions like he could full out say like this is not the path forward and he's not really doing that he's just saying sort of let's stop talking about it i mean it's really melania trump who releases this statement saying my husband is a human yeah and actually every politician has family and children
Starting point is 01:01:39 they mean something to someone and we have to treat them like they are real people as opposed to these made-up enemies that we have i'm not quoting her directly here but you know it was melania trump who i think was the first person to say let us actually turn down the rhetoric here it wasn't the biden campaign even though they said it they'll continue down this path they just want to put this behind them so they continue to be on the offensive because they don't have a strategy right now don't you think it's a tacit endorsement that they feel at least somewhat responsible? I don't think they do feel responsible. Why turn it down?
Starting point is 01:02:10 I think what they're saying is turn it down, a.k.a. stop talking about it. Let us not have to answer these questions. I don't think Joe Biden's rhetoric is responsible for the attempted assassination of Donald Trump. And I think even saying that, I think it's going beyond the pale. Unless there was a direct call for violence. I think this individual had agency unless assisted by others, obviously. But I don't think there was a direct call for violence. And I think we naturally not naturally, but often it's ubiquitous to see a lot worse and more vile political rhetoric. We don't know what radicalized him what radicalized he just added to the tension that was already growing especially among young disaffected people who really believe that
Starting point is 01:02:48 an election of trump would be the end of their life let me ask you a question let me let me ask you a question uh let's say there's 500 antifa leftists they're angry they're marching through the streets they have rocks bottles and chains and they come up to a starbucks and then one guy jumps in front of the crowd and screams, All of our problems. This company will destroy our way of life. They have to be stopped now by any means necessary. And then everyone screams out throwing rocks.
Starting point is 01:03:15 That guy's not responsible in any way? I think that person is responsible because it sounds like he's inciting a mob. He sounds like he's part of an armed mob outside of a place and so when someone tried to kill the kavanaugh family do you think at that point joe biden should have come out said i am not going to use this rhetoric we got to chill because there is a violent faction that has has taken dramatic action in this country i think we need to look at it at a case-by-case basis because i think like it's too broad to just say some person's rhetoric led to led to this attempt, unless we have evidence directly showing it. So we don't have any direct evidence showing that this guy was incited by...
Starting point is 01:03:50 He could have been incited by a ton of different things. I think about that photo of the single man in Germany, where everyone's doing the Roman salute to Adolf Hitler, and he's got his arms crossed angrily. And we revere that, that he def defied the crowd because the snowflake doesn't blame itself for the avalanche the idea that we have had uh aaron danielson shot and killed by a far leftist that there was in provo utah a far leftist ramped to a car for no reason and shot the driver the idea that these people have gone out trying to murder people that they've literally murdered people and this these tensions have escalated should have been a signal to literally everyone hey i'll tell you what we got the memo because we've been saying for years, guys, we can't have this.
Starting point is 01:04:27 We need rule of law, please. We have to, you know, we've had callers say, I can't, I can't, because the Democrats, they're arresting people. They're locking up Bannon. They're not playing by the rules. There's no rule of law. And we say we must maintain that because we are the good guys trying to maintain this system. You'd think after someone showed up to kill Brett Kavanaugh and kidnap and torture his family,
Starting point is 01:04:47 Joe Biden would have come out and said, everyone, we got to tone this down. That was too close and it went too far. He didn't. He came out and lied about Trump. He lied on the stage about soldiers dying. He lied about Donald Trump saying very fine people. They kept pushing this.
Starting point is 01:05:01 He said only a few days ago, he's got to be put in a bullseye. That is an existential threat. And I'm like, my dude, a guy went to Kavanaugh's house to kill and murder him and his family. You'd think at that point you'd realize behind you is a violent mob of insane people with powerful weapons. And you can't scream, get him. He's an existential threat. That's at a certain point.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I agree that I don't think Joe Biden is directly responsible for instructing a guy to do anything. He is a snowflake in an avalanche of chaos that needs to recognize what he's doing and just chill out. But the snowflake doesn't blame itself for the avalanche. And I would say there's been a political radicalization problem in this country ever since Barack Obama was president of the United States. Around Occupy Wall Street, you saw what I believe the establishment be afraid of people coming together. And ever since then, there was a deliberate effort to pin us against each other. And slowly and surely, the radicalization is increasing. And we've been seeing it for over 15 plus years. I've been calling it out. I've been saying, hey, we are on a trajectory. We are
Starting point is 01:06:00 on a pathway of fighting and hating each other over petty differences. And I think this is deliberate so we can never see the true cause of our problems. And if you look from a pathway of fighting and hating each other over petty differences. And I think this is deliberate so we can never see the true cause of our problems. And if you look from a kind of strategic point of view, there's a famous meme of spoons and forks kind of fighting each other. And then there's a king looking up upon themselves. And they're like, you know what? It doesn't matter what these people want or if they hate us or not. If they keep fighting and they look at each other differently, we will able to do whatever we want and that's exactly what they're doing shout out to duck dog super chat reminding me of this story cnn biden says he would beat the hell out
Starting point is 01:06:33 of trump and if in high school there have been there have been statements made joe biden was basically saying he's gonna punch punch him like these guys have directly gotten into the arena of of of violence in rhetoric. I don't think Joe Biden ever went and actually did these things, but they've basically come out and said that they would engage in this violence. Well, to be fair, he would be like a senior and Trump would be a sophomore. So in high school, he could be. He probably would.
Starting point is 01:06:57 He'd be picking on a younger guy. My point is, it's not like Joe Biden is just using turns of phrase and saying rhetoric. They've actually talked about the arena of violence and how he would win and he would actually attack Donald Trump. These signals to a guy who's 20 years old. For the past decade the media has been screaming, I'd say nine years, screaming Donald Trump is Hitler
Starting point is 01:07:18 the most racist guy. I think it was 2015, correct me if I'm wrong, where a man at a rally tried grabbing the gun from a police officer's holster and they stopped him. It was a few years ago where a man jumped the barricades and charged the stage. You'd think at any one of these points, each and every one of these politicians would be like, let's stop with the existential threat stuff because we say this and we know these guys are out there. They're hearing what we're saying. So, I mean, like, I think we need to make an important distinction here between, like, aggressive, usually wrong rhetoric.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Rhetoric like this, like beat the hell out of somebody or calling somebody Hitler or a tyrant or something like that. That increases the temperature and can lead to deranged people doing crazy things that are wrong and widely condemnable. But I think those people still have agency and shouldn't be blamed for um those actions unless you are explicitly calling for the violence saying that you know being obvious and explicit we need to x this person or something clear and explicit explicit and and clear and obvious because i mean joe biden
Starting point is 01:08:21 probably hasn't even been the worst elected official to say things about trump we could probably pull up stuff that aoc or rashida talib has said about Trump and then blame it on that. So, like, there's a bunch of, it's an aggressive standard that we're going to try to meet here. In a TikTok post, October 24th, 2023, user TrumpWarRoom, viewed 2.6 million times, said, quote, And then remember when Biden said, I'd take him to the back of the barn. I'd dream of that. You know what I'd do to him? Trump then made several punching gestures. I'd hit him right in the fake nose he added
Starting point is 01:08:48 so the fact check is true while it was that an incredible fake news pun or was that uh no the fact check true they say in 2016 following the leak of the axis hollywood tapes uh biden added that he would beat the hell out of trump this is a statement that was made we got we got to chill out on this stuff. Let's do this, though. We're going to jump to this story here and talk about the political climate and how the assassination attempt has changed the narrative and where Donald Trump is at.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Earlier in the show, Luke was saying, it's done. Trump is going to win. And that only matters if one concept holds true, and that is what Frank Lund said. The Trump supporter has become the Trump voter. That gives Trump a one to two point boost across the board. That means P.A. goes red. We have not yet seen the polls come out that have tracked post assassination news coverage. Morning Consult is the latest poll, which is the 12th to the 14th.
Starting point is 01:09:43 That means the day of most people still didn't know we are waiting to see the results that being said the prediction market shows a massive spike a 10 point 10 point spike for donald trump in the betting markets if donald trump saw that in the polls anywhere near that we're talking like 320 electoral votes. Did you see the poll? I know, I know, but 538, they actually showed Biden up since the attempt. Their latest poll, they put it out this morning. Which one?
Starting point is 01:10:13 538. I don't know that 538 has polls. They analyze other polls. I quote tweeted it if it's on my Twitter. Maybe they've just been talking about the polls. The issue with these polls is that we're not yet to the point where the assassination news has percolated to that point even on the day people didn't know even a day after people were only just finding out and so a lot of these polls when their their dates and when they're being conducted aren't
Starting point is 01:10:40 getting to the bulk of the news cycle which is going to be about wednesday tuesday is when most companies like doing press conferences and product releases because the news doesn't hit 100% on Tuesday. Monday is a dead zone. You don't do news on Monday. Tuesday is the best day because the news hits on Tuesday, peaks on Wednesday, and drops on Thursday. You release it on Wednesday and you're going straight down. Thursday is a dead zone. Friday is the worst.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Saturday is literally the worst. Those are all for traffic. So what we're really looking for is polls that are going to be in the range of probably starting Wednesday and going into next week. That's when this Friday is when the news hits its peak. So Wednesday, we're going to see the bulk
Starting point is 01:11:20 of all the assassination news. It's going to start to fade out and how people respond to it. So far, what we're seeing is Trump is up one or two points. We have 3W Insights with Trump up four points. You've got Big Village with Trump against Harris up seven. Like if Biden is out of the race, it's just apocalyptic. Trump against Biden up four. I believe that once the dust settles on this news, Trump is going to be up about three to four points. He's up two right now. So that's basically I agree with Frank Luntz. Do you think there's any chance there's sort of a second wave of blue voters who become
Starting point is 01:11:52 activated over this, like the polls scare them into saying, oh, no, we got to back Biden? No way. The problem is that their narrative before the assassination attempt was that and it was gaining traction, I think, among definitely among independents, probably among likely Democrat voters, was that Biden was actually not capable. I mean, Democrats were losing confidence in their own candidate before anything happened to Trump to sort of surge this extra sort of patriotic support in his favor. The narrative that has dropped off, or at least we're not seeing a ton in the news site right now, is are they going to pull Joe Biden?
Starting point is 01:12:24 Yeah, Joe Biden is a big winner in all all this nobody's talking about his cognitive decline nobody's talking about but if the polls remain high for trump as we get closer i mean we're what four six weeks away from the the dnc uh there is a chance that that just resurges and it's even worse because they're like look trump is way ahead now we really have to pull biden and there's a debate in september that's ominous right now if they have to do another debate they're gonna have to shift the time to 8 a.m in the morning or something like that i'm glad you brought up the debate because i was thinking about the fact um that before the debate and we all would have expected this trump and biden didn't shake hands there's no like sort
Starting point is 01:13:02 of cordial moment that we've seen behind between presidential candidates and fast no no it's not that it's bad but now that we're supposed to be per joe biden's recommendation turning down the political rhetoric is he at that debate stage going to extend his hand to trump because that's what he would need to do if he was really a man of of trying to de-escalate uh any sort of tension but that's never he's not going to do it come on he's going to look hypocritical, I think. I think there's bigger things ahead of us. I think the establishment was desperate. We described to them as a cornered animal a few weeks
Starting point is 01:13:32 ago that they were going to lash out. I think Saturday was their lashing out moment. They weren't successful. I think down the pipeline, there's going to be bigger, crazier things ahead of us in this election cycle that will totally change the trajectory of what we're expecting to happen. This is just the beginning. They failed. They're more desperate. They're going to lash out more. So there's going to be a lot of craziness that people should strap in for
Starting point is 01:13:54 because this is only the beginning of an extremely wild, wild ride. And there's forces out there, forces of evil, that will try to do everything in their power to try to prevent Donald Trump, especially now, especially with the vengeance aspect, especially with him almost losing his life right now, especially with him having five hour long conversations with RFK Jr. right now, talking about the larger conspiracies of everything. All bets are off. The game's about to be flipped over. What was this podcast with Yuval Noah Harari? Did you see that?
Starting point is 01:14:25 Yes. There's a couple of them. He said something like Trump is the end of the global machine or what was it? The global order. Yeah. And again, he does symbolize that. And a lot of very powerful people understand that there's going to be a larger reckoning. If you look at JFK, when he threatened to, of course, end the war in Vietnam, what kind of happened to him?
Starting point is 01:14:47 Donald Trump is threatening to end the wars. This is a major front to the military-industrial complex, to a lot of organizations, to a lot of groups that don't only care about the money here. Jeremy, this is way beyond money. This is far more deeper and spiritual than a lot of people even understand it to be, because this is essentially a death cult. These are people that do blood sacrifices. These are people that ritualistically start wars on specific dates for specific reasons and continue them, even though they know that they're not going to win them,
Starting point is 01:15:20 in order to continue the larger pain and suffering of humanity. So, what we're dealing here with is not a usual political cycle. This is not going to go down like you guys think it's going to go down. It's going to be way more chaotic, way more crazy. And that's why I'm telling everyone, you got to become the best, strongest version of yourself. You got to call out the violence. You got to call out the insane people in our society. You got to be paying attention to every little detail and aspect of what's going on around you, because what's going to happen is going to be vast, it's going to be huge, and it's going to happen, and it's going to shock people.
Starting point is 01:15:52 And that's not an understatement. We had Eric Prince on the Culture War podcast, and I asked him, subscribe to Tendon Media, by the way, because we're doing that show Friday morning. But I asked him if, in all of experience with these countries that are destabilizing and the people he's worked with are they seeing similarity similarities here here and what can we expect he said the one thing that they all agree on is that it happens overnight everything seems normal and then you go to bed and you wake up there's no electricity water doesn't turn on there's no internet garbage stops getting picked up and you have no idea
Starting point is 01:16:22 what's happening communications are gone tv doesn't turn on and that's the scary reality that it's gradual then it's gradually then suddenly everybody just thinks every day they're going to wake up and things are going to be normal it's fascinating to me because you hear that meme where it's like touch grass touch grass the fascinating thing is this world nearly collapsed into abject chaos and destruction on saturday july 13th on 24 and there's this really funny post from this dude jewels and he said he was got he was at a local community garden when this happened so he had no idea and that just goes to show you don't go touch grass never log off ever not even a second but but the truth is imagine if you were out gardening doing normal things not paying attention and this tragedy actually took it turned for the worst in the in the ways uh we most fear
Starting point is 01:17:14 you would have no idea you'd be blindsided by the economic repercussions i believe that if on that day donald trump lost his life the stock market would drop a ridiculous number. I don't know what 30 percent, some insane number. Investors, foreign investors especially, would panic and sell everything they could to exit the market due to fear of uncertainty. With no clear front runner, with Joe Biden's brain being fried and no Donald Trump, there is no one to accept the reins of this country. And we are lucky that it didn't happen. If that economic hit happened, people's banks may suspend withdrawals. There could be runs on banks.
Starting point is 01:17:54 You would see international conflict immediately due to the economic instability of the global markets caused by the United States. And you would be in your garden. You would be tending to your tomato plants. And then when it all came down, you'd go, how come all this food's gone from the store? Well, you were late to the party, man. Now you get to go fight in the Walmart parking lot for the last can of beans with Agnes, because y'all weren't paying attention. But you got tomatoes. But you got tomatoes, but don't worry,
Starting point is 01:18:18 they'll come and take them from you. So I'm not saying plug in, never leave, never leave, that's the joke. I'm just saying, to all the people who are acting like you shouldn't pay attention to what's going on in the world, you should be politically active or be involved. You don't have to be. Ignorance is pure bliss and you can go live that normal life and forget all about it. And then one day when you can't buy gas, there's no more food at the store and you're shrugging your shoulders, you will be the last one to eat and you will wonder how it could have happened. It's challenge of life ignorance is bliss by all means live and bask in the fruits of the labors of men and women in uniform our law enforcement our first responders but one day don't like don't expect it to be permanent because that's a luxury yeah there's no going back from this people need to understand this is not going to
Starting point is 01:19:00 be a normal political cycle they're talking about swing states and none of that matters. To me, this has really been a major Pearl Harbor like event that is truly going to be playing out for the next not few days, not few months for the next few years. Donald Trump, who again is seen as a very big anti-establishment figure, now, from the people who tried to kill him, see him as even a larger threat. And they would be silly not to consider him a larger threat because of the larger consequences. Because when someone tries to take your life
Starting point is 01:19:36 and is a centimeter away from doing so, and you understand the message that they're sending to you, you understand how serious this is all is right now. And truly, the next few months are going to be insane. We do have this pre-recorded segment we did with Representative Lauren Bobra, but I do think we'd probably be better off releasing that
Starting point is 01:19:56 independently. It's about 20 minutes, it's 15 minutes long. And she's discussing her legislative action for the Secret Service. I think we probably touched a bit too much and it might be a little bit redundant, so I think we'll put that up tomorrow for you guys to watch. It's a pre-recorded interview, and we'll stick to the news and keep the show rolling live.
Starting point is 01:20:12 And with that, we'll jump to the story from SCNR. Must watch! Rep Matt Gaetz confronts and mocks ousted former Speaker Kevin McCarthy. If you took that stage, you would get booed off of it, Gates said. This is actually kind of amazing.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Now, some of you may say, Tim, this is crass. We don't need Matt Gates confronting McCarthy and engaging in these things. False. We need this. I say false. I tell you this. What we are witnessing with Matt Gates confronting the old guard is that younger people are pushing back. We are taking the reins of power.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Many of these young people were inspired by the likes of Ron Paul and this real America first message about sound currency, no foreign wars, and our own individual autonomy. And the machine wants to cut backroom deals, treat you like a sheep, and operate in darkness. And Matt Gaetz standing up, it's not about one guy and two guys it's not about whether you like matt gates or don't like kevin mccarthy or vice versa it's about the contention at the convention from the new guard and the old guard because we are taking over it's interesting i mean in some ways i actually do wish kevin mccarthy was speaking on stage and i'll tell you it's largely because do you remember the iconic ted cruz vote your conscious moment i mean that happened at a Republican National Convention in 2016.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And I think there is this level of people want to hear how the old guard is reacting right now. They want to know in the wake of everything that's happened with Trump, not just, you know, of course, his assassination attempt, but also the the way he's uh treated by the judicial system and the dropping of his cases and you know just everything that is going into the campaign right now i think there is a sense of tension among voters and it's interesting to see it play out on the floor between two people who very obviously had tension i mean it's almost less believable when politicians all line up and say like we were screaming at each other a couple months ago but let's just shake hands we're all the same side play the clip can we let's get
Starting point is 01:22:09 it what night are you speaking are you speaking tonight hey you're not if you took that stage you would get booed off that's right he would. I'd boo. Do we also have the CNN angle? That's a proud Florida man right there. Shouts out to Matt Gaetz. He's a badass and absolute respect for him. Do we also have the other angle? Because he's actually interrupting. One who's not coming back.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Oh, it's on the feed. And then the other part that you have. Who raised the issue. He's the other part that you have... ...who raised the issue, he's got an ethics complaint about paying sleeping with a 17-year-old. Oh, wow. So that's great. Yeah, that's the bomb. So you mean to tell me that Matt Gaetz interrupted CNN
Starting point is 01:22:55 and McCarthy? Wow, I'm extra happy now. So I'm conflicted because obviously this is really funny to see, and you always love seeing politicians go at each other's throats. And obviously these two have a lot of history. Matt Gaetz was part of the few congressmen that helped oust McCarthy as Speaker. He led it.
Starting point is 01:23:12 That led it. And now McCarthy was going on his tour, trying to—his funding opponents to all the congresspeople who followed suit, as well as Matt Gaetz. He's also running ads in Matt Gaetz's district about his alleged affair with the 17-year-old. And when you really think about it, though, it saddens me because at the end of the day, how substantially different are these two politicians' policies in reality compared to the Democrats? You know, we could have that larger conversation with their attempts to oust McCarthy to begin with. How different is he than johnson is now not very and and you know it's clear that this is more petty beef than substantial um political debate petty beef does
Starting point is 01:23:52 seem like it follows kevin mccarthy a little bit though i mean we had we had representative tim burschett on the show the other night and and he got like elbow checked by or like shoulder kevin mccarthy in the halls and kevin mccarthy's like oh we may be bumped into like it's it is weird to see these things again because so often you get politicians who are polished and they're saying oh we shake hands we make deals and the reality is like a lot of them don't like each other and i think there is the reality tv show aspect of that that american voters do want to see like we know sometimes you're faking it and maybe you should just be honest like there there is honesty in this moment that, that,
Starting point is 01:24:26 that Kevin McCarthy is saying something kind of brutal about Matt Gates. And because we're at convention, Matt Gates is right there to be like, you can't talk that way about me on live TV. That's great timing too. We're fortuitous timing. He must've ran over there. Someone said he's live right now.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Get over there now. Maybe, I don't know. You know, Matt Gates does not like hearing about what McCarthy has to say here. And those said, he's live right now. Get over there now. Maybe. I don't know. You know Matt Gage does not like hearing about what McCarthy has to say here and those ads that he's running against him. Well, you know what McCarthy has accused him of,
Starting point is 01:24:51 right? Being with underage girls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm saying. I mean, this is the most contentious relationship you can have, possibly, if you're being accused of pedophilia. Well, I'm sorry. I think McCarthy is full of it because matt gates says kevin mccarthy was cutting backroom deals and getting ious and this is
Starting point is 01:25:11 the corrupt machine of the speaker of the house and then kevin mccarthy goes oh yeah well use up the 17 year old and it's like oh wait that's not a political argument that's salacious gossip garbage meant to destroy someone's credibility matt gates has made a political argument against you and the system you represent and you responded with garbage it reminds me of i think mitt romney pretty recently was like well i would never vote for trump because you know he has been convicted of a sexual crime or something like that when he's referring to this eugene carroll case which we know was so ridiculous on its front i mean there is this weird like mud slinging i'm holier than thou moment among all of these people sometimes we have to see the conflict sorry
Starting point is 01:25:44 no i mean i think the the the issue here is how substantially different is mccarthy than johnson slinging I'm holier than thou moment among all of these people. Sometimes we have to see the conflict. Sorry, no, I mean, I think the, the, the issue here is how substantially different is McCarthy than Johnson anyway. And you know, all the pain that in time wasted by a house that was a majority Republicans because of a petty beef between these two guys,
Starting point is 01:25:58 McCarthy and Johnson are one in the same as far as how speakers have the same policies. And that doesn't matter. What matters is that Kevin McCarthy, in order to become Speaker, was cutting these deals with lobbyists. This is how Matt Gates explains it to us. In order to be Speaker, you basically need to raise a bunch
Starting point is 01:26:14 of money. You need to pony up to the NRCC to be able to get these leadership positions. And so he effectively cuts a billion dollars in IOUs. And when he got voted out, that destroyed this process of backroom deals johnson is no good fine whatever it's still funny to watch them squirm yeah i mean that's what the argument is mccarthy and johnson are one in the same and all they did is waste time in congress and then
Starting point is 01:26:33 it's also republican on republican money and my argument is quite literally that's not true oh no i mean some state no i think they are more or less the same johnson hold on i think you're misunderstanding yes johnson is not a good speaker of the House. Kevin McCarthy was not a good speaker of the House. Kevin McCarthy was running the congressional campaign BS machine, and he just had to eat those IOUs. This is pain for the system, it's pain for the lobbyists, and the backroom deals just bloop in their faces.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Now Johnson gets in, he can do whatever he wants, but Kevin McCarthy just had the machine collapse on him. And so that's it. That's what we got. I don't think the goal of ousting Kevin McCarthy, or I should say this, that's not the right way to say it. I don't think that we should just be like
Starting point is 01:27:18 entirely upset that Johnson's no good. We say when they were seeking to remove McCarthy, it was a rebuke of the machine in the system. And that's the minimum of what we say when they were seeking to remove McCarthy, it was a rebuke of the machine in the system. And that's the minimum of what we got. We wished for more. We wished for a Jim Jordan or someone better. We didn't get it.
Starting point is 01:27:32 But we accept that we just took a we just took action against this corrupt political machine and they felt the pain of the deals they were brokering. Yeah, I mean, I think there's I get what you're saying that a lot of the it they were brokering yeah i mean i think there's a lot i get what you're saying that a lot the the it seemed like this was a fight and how different are these two people in terms of the way they vote um i wonder too to to what tim was saying before if we're having a changing of the guards if we're having some sort of change within the republican identity of the party uh if these battles are sort of necessary it's not going to be like one day everyone is replaced all at once it's sort of a a back and forth push until ultimately the party is like a
Starting point is 01:28:12 darker red let's say or more to whatever they're they're sort of circling around becoming yeah but don't we we know it's a unit party so i mean isn't that just on it's interesting though right like if it is a unit party then wouldn't you want to see people like pushing farther apart as opposed to coming closer together in terms of policy and ideals? Well, I just want to see the next generation take the reins and push against the corruption. The like McCarthy represents all of these problems. He's not as bad as Nancy Pelosi, but he's part of the same club. And Matt Gaetz putting pressure on him and leading the charge to get him removed as speaker was glorious to watch. It was the right thing to do.
Starting point is 01:28:46 It doesn't mean we get a good speaker. It means that this disgusting lobby machine of D.C., which has plagued our politics for so long, got a whip crack and a billion in IOUs just went up in flames. I wonder what the repercussions of that are. Oh, he's reeling. Yeah, I mean, there were promises made, clearly, allegedly and uh now he will not be able to fulfill on them and we got that with hillary clinton losing too because you know in 2016 she's cutting these deals like you you done it to my packs to my campaign you hire me for these speaking deals before she ran she was like speaking for goldman sachs or something and then she loses and then what do we see the clinton global initiative
Starting point is 01:29:23 or the clinton foundation like starts slowing down and drying up they have to shut it down but they had record donations when she was running for the presidency of the united states just showing you just how absolutely corrupt our entire political system is and there's few brave people like matt gates that are willing to call it out in real time there was so much money there was so much lobbyist there were so many special interest groups that were just screwed over and it's beautiful to see. And I love it. Didn't the Clinton Foundation get 400 million in Haiti relief? Exactly. I interviewed
Starting point is 01:29:51 local Haitians and they described in great detail how they were just robbed by the Clintons and they were just screwed over during one of the most difficult times that they had to go through after going through a major hurricane that leveled and destroyed all of Haiti, which added to the destruction, as, of course, Hillary Clinton was actually giving her brother contract deals to the natural resources and minerals of Haiti,
Starting point is 01:30:14 as, of course, they were literally looting that country for their own personal benefit. And there are plutocrats that are looting the American country for their own benefit. And at least them just being paused for a little bit, Matt Gaetz standing and saying, this system is corrupt, that right there was poetic. And even though it was temporary, it was still beautiful to see.
Starting point is 01:30:35 I'm watching the clip. Someone made a super cut of filming Alex interrupt Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks. You had a busy day today. I know, and I got kicked out of the RNC all for confronting him. So whose side is the RNC on? The pimp on a blank
Starting point is 01:30:48 or the Young Turks? I think the interesting thing is... It's pretty mild. Yeah, like, this is a problem the RNC has. The RNC right now has a couple problems, but I'm watching this video
Starting point is 01:30:59 and, you know, I'll try and be as fair as I can. Alex, I know you know Cenk was on the air with someone or doing something. Of course, that's why I did know you know Cenk was on the air with someone or doing something. Of course, that's why I did it. I knew he was on the air during the Oregon, yeah. I think it's also reasonable when you watch this,
Starting point is 01:31:11 there's actually, it's not actually that easy to know what he's doing. It's, you've got, and it's a problem with a lot of these conventions where there's booths, and you're just like, I don't know if they're live or not live or sitting there. Well, I did know. I I know I know you knew what I'm saying is the way it looks he could have been doing a sound check or a sound test and you were just trying to goof off and be nice to a guy or something like just be silly and you didn't realize my point is the way they do these these events they're they're not structured very well for well I'll put it this way the reason why we
Starting point is 01:31:43 ended up doing the uh pre-record with Rhett Boebert is because we're outside of the perimeter in a separate location. The RNC is happening in literally every corner of the RNC, but there's no way we could do a two-hour long No, without getting interrupted? No way. And it's not even by people like you
Starting point is 01:32:00 who are trying to be goofballs. It's by people walking up and being like, hey guys, what are you doing? And then standing in front of the camera, how are you supposed to have a coherent media presence for culture in these spaces? And I'm not saying it's their fault, it's just it is an issue that they're having.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Pierce tipped you off, didn't he? Pierce told you, didn't he? But you see where the other CNN, Fox News, they are insulated. They do have a level of security. I just guess the young turks you know the cnn has a whole building yeah i mean you know the young turks aren't cnn so it's a lot easier to go disrupt yeah the crazy thing about it too is the rnc basically controls
Starting point is 01:32:35 all of the rights to rental for all these buildings which is nuts i respect uh the young turks for being there hey can we get a can we get a if you're in town for the rnc can we get together like a class action against these hotels that are charging? Price gouging! Dude! Oh my gosh, our hotel is like 300 bucks for eight. I'm sleeping on Tim's couch again. I did that
Starting point is 01:32:56 ten years ago. I'm doing it again today. Well, to be fair, it's a very nice couch. Yeah, it is one of the best, but I won't name them right now. I will maybe later. But this is a hotel that's $200 a night for any other night. Well, you know... $800 a night. I want to say for $200.
Starting point is 01:33:12 I don't think the hotels have set these prices. I think the RNC did. That's what I'm saying. There's something that needs somebody who has better tools or access than I do. I think... I don't know how else you do it. I heard in Chicago, the DNC, the rooms are 50% off because nobody can afford to go.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Look, I want to tell you guys this. What most offends me right now about the RNC, and I hope they're listening, is their security is broken completely. You can't lock down the city the way you've done it and then not have security. It is obstruction without security. When you're driving into the secure zone,
Starting point is 01:33:46 they stop you, they search under your car, they do all those things, and I'm like, hey, this is a good thing, right? Then you walk up to the building, doors are unsecure, badges don't make sense, one security guard is saying, I don't know what that badge is, the other security guard is saying, I think it's fine, let them in anyway, and I'm just like, we were leaving the building,
Starting point is 01:34:02 and we're like, how do we get out of here? And we see a sign that says exit, we walked down the stairs, and there's no security anywhere and i open the door and i'm just literally outside the main rnc building and there's no security just people walking by and i'm like is this a joke what is wrong with the security here we went to get our badges and they were like oh there's an error in printing them so just go in anyway and i'm like what do you mean go in anyway and they're like you there's two different kinds of badges that one just tell them you're good and we're like you're sure like yeah it's totally fine we walk up to security and they're like where's your badge and we're like we have these those aren't good enough you can't get in and i'm like well that
Starting point is 01:34:34 guy over there said we were good and he goes okay and i was like what that's how it was for me my my assistant got her fancy badge with the picture on it, the one that I thought you needed. And then I've been texting the RNC like, dude, what's going on? What's going on? What's going on there? Oh, just use your other pass. I'm like, but you guys are going to probably change that, right? Like, on Thursday night, like, am I going to be able to get in with this?
Starting point is 01:34:58 Oh, yeah, you'll be fine. This whole security issue that we're seeing with the RNC makes me really think about Saturday and the security of the Secret Service and how they handle things. No, I do think it's massively overly secure in the wrong ways. So we parked our car. And I'm like, this is one of the most frustrating things. We park our car and we go into the secure zone. Car gets searched. We drive up to a second layer of the secure zone because there's two layers.
Starting point is 01:35:24 The cops say, come on in in park right there we do we go in the convention and as we're leaving there's a single barricade between us and and and it's like 100 feet to the parking lot the barricade is being held open by cops and we're like can we just walk through here our car is there and he goes where's your car like right over there and he's like he looks over and then he goes wait where's your car and we're like it's right there and then he pushes the gate closed and he goes walk all the way around he made us cross the river walk three blocks and then when we got back to our car the cops who were there said you can't come in and we're like oh he just made us walk around he won't let us go through the gate and they were like yeah you can't come in i'm like our car is there and he goes
Starting point is 01:35:59 try and we were like okay and then we walked in got our car and then they were like what are you doing we were able to leave but nobody knows what's going on with security nobody knows what doors you can or can't use the badges now they're saying you don't need one badge we thought you did but now you don't security was increased then decreased it is it is ridiculously bad uh uber or like taxi drop-off section too that i was talking to the driver he's like you're supposed to have uh isn't there like a designated drop-off area no so. I was talking to Uber drivers. You're supposed to have... Isn't there a designated drop-off area? No. So, as everyone knows, I'm extremely fit.
Starting point is 01:36:30 After spending two-thirds of the day with Luke walking all over town... Shaming him for the food he's eating. Yeah, he's like, that's because you're aged. I'm just trying to get a hot dog. What are you eating? It's true. It definitely gives you age. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:36:44 I didn't need him to tell me that. But then my Uber's like, I can't get down there. I was like, well, it says you can. So I had to like, commando do some sweet maneuvers and jump over concrete barriers and get in the car in the middle of the intersection. Like, he just pulled over in the intersection,
Starting point is 01:37:00 put his hazards on, he's like, I'll wait for you, buddy. I'm like, alright. The crazy thing about it, though, is that badges don't seem to make sense. Nobody took no badge all day. No, no. Even though they took my badges. But I got like 10 more somewhere.
Starting point is 01:37:12 You keep printing them. Nothing makes sense. Are you going to go in with a wig next time? I don't know. Maybe I'll put on a mustache. But no, you're right about the security, though. Literally, none of it makes sense. It's redundant,
Starting point is 01:37:22 but it doesn't even matter, right? Someone chatted, why say this on air? We want it to be better. Yeah, we want it to be better, and they need to address this, and people need to know. Because we've talked to people already about it, and they're just like, we can't help you. We're going into day three, and they're like, well, maybe your badges will get printed, but I guess because they didn't, we're not going to require them anymore. And I'm like, that's a bad thing and a problem that you can't just do.
Starting point is 01:37:46 And people are saying, don't say this on air Literally the million, however many 50,000 people have experienced this already Everybody posted it, it's been shared far and wide They need to get a handle on whatever it is they're doing Well why don't we do the background checks So we had to do background checks Secret service background checks Months ago
Starting point is 01:38:03 Many many weeks ago. And so I was talking to the people there, and they're, oh, yeah, there's hundreds of people who don't have their badges. I'm like, well, why does my assistant have her badge and I don't have mine? Like, we filed on the same day. They're like, oh, I don't know. I said, well, am I going to get in on what Trump speaks? Like, am I going to get in? Eh, well, someone will come down and get you and walk you in.
Starting point is 01:38:23 We walk in, and there is a secret Secret Service guy and he goes, these badges are no good. We walked into Fiserv, I think. Yeah, yeah. And we were like, well, these are the badges they gave us. I don't know what else we're supposed to have. And he's like, nah, you got to have the other ones. And then we were like, they don't have other ones. All of a sudden, another Secret Service woman walks up and she goes, they can come in. And we were like, I have no idea what's going on. I think they just don't have the printer. I just think they don't have the printer.
Starting point is 01:38:49 So then they're like, we'll just change security protocol. The issue is the communication. Secret Service doesn't know what other Secret Service is permitting. Local police don't know what local police are permitting. It's crazy because I worked security at a venue. And they would give a piece of paper to every security guard. And it would show you badges, levels, and what rooms they can go in. to every every every security uh guard and it would show you badges levels and what rooms they can go in so you knew if you saw it what it meant
Starting point is 01:39:09 he and so every guard knew that's what that means this is what this means here one cop is like uh you can't come in your own parking lot and we're like but we just did and it's like i don't know i don't tell you because we don't have any unified communications right now they have boots on the ground though i will tell you that there's a lot of people down there. And I want to say this. If you're lactose intolerant, do not come to Wisconsin, because I've been eating these cheese curds, and I have gas. They're great. This has been good.
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Starting point is 01:40:11 drummer we can't see a side of the conversation since since he's a dork and limits his views ps raymond is dope yes i have been tweeting with the great jess margera the drummer for the band cky and he's very anti-trump he had been posting things about how it's it's suspicious and essentially alluding to the fact that trump staged this and he had a comment where uh someone responded to him that you know i don't know he's got trumped arrangements or something what makes him think he's so smart he said because i've toured the world and got an international education learning from many other people and you haven't left the backwoods sticks blah blah blah of your alabama hometown to which i responded well in that case you're just a drummer and i've actually covered conflict crisis
Starting point is 01:40:54 and revolution in numerous countries around the world so i can tell you that you are the cult supporting the machine you are a zealot and he actually for those that are wondering he responded positively he said in that case i'd love to hear what you have to say so i can better understand what it is you mean oh you had him cornered no i just think like uh he said you're clearly influential you clearly say something that people think makes sense and i want to know what that thing is and i say absolute respect i like cky this is the thing man i want to win friends and and gain influence so i told them come hang out with us i we're big fans of CKY, 96 Quite Better Beings, legendary song, plastic, what is it? CKY stands for Camp Kill Your Blank, right?
Starting point is 01:41:36 Yes. Yeah. Can't say that on YouTube. She's Ben Margera's brother. So I said, just come hang out, dude. And this is what it means. Look, there is a viral post that I mentioned the other day and Wokeness posted. It's a young woman who said she was a far leftist, anti-Trumper, screaming at these rallies. And then she watched the interview I did with Trump and she realized she was being lied to. There are a lot of people that just need someone to be like, if they give you the opportunity to explain yourself, take it. Not everybody's good. Not everybody is going to be righteous and in good faith.
Starting point is 01:42:07 But for Jess Margera to say, I want to hear what you have to say, I say, thank you, sir. By all means, let's crack open a nice cold glass of, I said crack open, I was going to say beer. But no, no, no, Casper coffee. We will sip some delicious Casper coffee and we'll discuss these issues. Excuse me. There you go. I'm sorry, what? No, i just had a weird spasm we're gonna read some more here we go coffee that you're drinking raymond g maga stanley jr says alex you freaking g you jank was so mad lol jank was mad now i kept calling him the wrong name i think that's what made him more mad i called him saying
Starting point is 01:42:43 that's the best thing yeah you gotta do that that's what made him more mad. I called him Sank. That's the best thing. Yeah, you gotta do that. That's really why he was mad. He was mad. But you know what? Piers Morgan loved it because he retweeted it. Now, he's probably one of his staffers, but still. If Piers liked it, what do I give a damn? Cenk should be...
Starting point is 01:42:55 He should be annoyed, but kind of happy. Because it's silly PR that benefits him in the long run with minimal, minimal harm to his show. But the thing about Jank is that he's very, very passionate and can be easily, uh, what's the right word? Like his emotions can crank it up to 11 very quickly. So peers was, was saying that,
Starting point is 01:43:16 you know, I have questions about how this went down and immediately Jank is like, Oh, you're saying, Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa,
Starting point is 01:43:21 whoa, calm down, calm down. Yeah. He really is either zero or 10. Like that's it. Well, that's what makes him a good broadcaster. Right. You know, you want to be, but, whoa, whoa, whoa. Calm down, calm down. Yeah, he really is either a zero or ten. Like, that's it. Well, that's what makes him a good broadcaster, right? He's good at it. You want to be, but Hassan,
Starting point is 01:43:30 his nephew sucks. Here's an important one. Dom Dan Cam says, Tim, you can forgive Jack Black, but can you forgive Destiny? He is beyond retribution. I disagree. And beyond retribution, I don't know if that's what you meant retribution means like
Starting point is 01:43:46 yeah define redemption yeah does not the uh the lord offer the opportunity of forgiveness with a heartfelt repentance if i truly believe in in in forgiveness and i believe that no matter how dark or evil a person may be, there are ways to accommodate that. But we are not stupid. So trust but verify. If Destiny wanted to apologize for the horrible things he's said and done, I'd be willing to listen. If I felt that he was sincere,
Starting point is 01:44:16 I would accept it. There are certain acts of evil that I don't think can be redeemed in a normal fashion. That is, if someone were to harm a child in an extreme way, the forgiveness they would receive is the, we lock you in a box forever, you forfeited your rights, and that is our grace. That is the limit. And then you can ask God for whatever else you might need. For someone like Destiny, who said very naughty things, shockingly offensive, disruptive,
Starting point is 01:44:40 and amoral things, a true repentance, repentance i believe is certainly worthy of forgiveness he's just an a-hole and like the worst kind but to say he's beyond redemption i think that's what you meant i certainly think most uh like it's it's it's within christianity to to offer true redemption is it not yeah of course uh but do you think he i don't know him at all do you think he will repent no no no he's trolling are you guys really serious yeah no i think he i don't know him at all do you think he will repent no no no he's trolling you guys are you serious yeah no i think he's having a mental breakdown because his wife left i think he's going through a very difficult time no way he's he's he's rage farming i think he's farming anna casperian like they had some exchange i just saw it and she was like i see her in
Starting point is 01:45:20 say this like you should log off you're being. I have heard the argument that he's just trying to generate press and get attention. No, because the stuff I'm hearing now from like producers and podcasts is they regret having him on their shows and they will not host him ever again. Yeah, he's doing real damage. There is a long tail to this short term, you know, hey, I'm trending thing. The long tail of it is that he's going to lose out on a lot of opportunities whether or not you think that's true um that's fine but like i don't think making fun of a heroic firefighter who lost his life shielding his wife and daughter i feel like you can i mean like there's some freaking lines dude he's also saying other
Starting point is 01:46:00 people should suffer the same fate yeah he's saying he said something to the effect of if you've got a problem with it, I'll make sure I get you front row seats to the next one. To the next chump rally. We get the insinuation. There's, if he I'll take them, by the way. If he's giving me free front row seats. You want to go to the one coming up late July?
Starting point is 01:46:18 Yeah, I'll go. Jeremy, they are free. You just gotta sign up. They're free. They don't cost money. You just gotta first come, first serve. But, dang it there there is the argument that he's trying to troll and generate traffic right if he was he'd say something like this may really anger people but i'm going to stand by it i think many of these people are supporting a traitor and these are natural consequences blah blah blah if he said it like that people would be like come on my show and debate that that's shocking instead he's gloating and saying things like, you deserve to burn in hell, you traitor scum,
Starting point is 01:46:48 and you all deserve it, blah, blah, blah. Elon got him, too. Elon, I think he got demonetized. Oh, he got a few posts taken down. I don't know how many. I know one was taken down. But this is something, I've seen messages, people are posting and conversations saying, he's persona non grata from my show.
Starting point is 01:47:06 Let me put it this way. I had someone ask me, Tim, would you host him again? I said, no, he's never allowed on my show. And it's not because I have a personal beef with him. It's because if you were to come on my show and advocate for the things he's advocating for, we'd get insta-banned. And I think a lot of other streamers, and the reason why a lot of people are saying he's persona non grata, is because if you invite him on your show and he decides to say the things he posted your show will get taken down and you will get a strike and nobody wants to nobody wants that nobody wants a guy on their
Starting point is 01:47:33 show who's publicly calling for the death of other people and gloating about it saying they deserve it and things like that because they're like dude i don't want to take that heat all right what's this just because i'm free Free says Jeremy has the best coffee I've ever tasted Ah Fake news Blueberry Cobbler Is my favorite
Starting point is 01:47:50 Sorry not sorry Tim and Alex Fake news Was that you? Did you like make a sock account And just like post it? Thanks Maggie Thanks for the super chat
Starting point is 01:47:58 No no I think both coffees Are equally good And you should have Multiple brands of coffee In your cabinet Right? What a message of unity for the consumers out there.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Yeah, everyone, you should buy both. You're really toning down the coffee political rhetoric. I am. I'm lowering the temperature on our coffee. But Jeremy, be real. The blueberry flavoring has how many microplastics in it? I actually add them because my coffee brand coffee drinkers have big balls. Cash brew, no microplastics in your testicles after it.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Ryan says, I've been waiting for years for the Quartering and Timcast to do a show together. Welcome to our hometown Tim and crew. Jeremy, you better have brought a case of Spotted Cow. I'd love to party with you guys all night. Tim's from the Midwest, he knows. Friday morning on The Culture War, Jeremy and I, as well as we're roping in some other guests guests are going to talk about culture. I'm really excited to talk about Star Wars, The Boys, Magic the Gathering, the importance of winning the culture war, taking back these cultural spaces, and really pushing back on a lot of these conservative dad bros who are like, grow up and stop playing games. Oh, I hate it. And it's like, dude, it was middle-aged men who created comic books, which inspired a generation of kids to want to be heroes and uphold the values of this country
Starting point is 01:49:08 truth justice in the american way if we don't have good stories and adventures for children little boys want adventure they want they want to grow up they want to be alexander the great they want to be con they want to conquest and then you're asking us to put on a suit say no stop life is boring and you should be boring and they're going to say okay well and then there's going to be some crackpot with some candy being like, you want to go on an adventure, little boy? We don't want that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Play video games to protect your kids. And I think Jeremy will agree with me, but Angry Video Game Nerd, he's got one of the best YouTube channels, right? Top five all time. And you watch that channel, and yeah, you might not even be that into the video games, but it's nostalgic. Like, there's something about our childhood that we should appreciate, and I hate that when people try to stop us from, you know,
Starting point is 01:49:44 enjoying something that brought us joy when we were younger. Kids want adventure. They want to explore. They want to play games. Boys and girls are obviously different. But the idea that there are people saying abandon the cultural endeavors and don't participate is an absurdity. Yeah. The message that I have for all these pro skateboarders right now, because we're working on building up the boonies, you know they're saying like what should we do well i'll tell you this special mike one of our one of our team
Starting point is 01:50:07 writers said he wanted to make a segment where he puts a bunch of whoopee cushions on the spine ramp so it's a narrow rail four feet off the ground and he's like i'm gonna run across the whoopee cushions making fart noises and then finger flip i mean flip the board and land on it jumping to the ground and then kara would would jump out of a box and yell doorknob and then hit him oh that's an old reference man right and this is a 30 year old guy you know in an adult man engaging in silly shenanigans and older skaters are like oh it's so cringe why are you doing this and then what do we see younger teenagers and their parents are laughing saying i love the doorknob game it's got hundreds of thousands of views he got it here's the thing these older guys that want to gatekeep in the skate industry i'm like dude if you tell kids that that like fart jokes and silly humor that
Starting point is 01:50:58 they're stupid and wrong and not allowed they will not buy your skateboards they will not learn to skate they will not join your culture and your They will not learn to skate. They will not join your culture, and your culture will die. So we want to be inspirational and family-friendly and silly. We don't want to be stupid kids shows like Blue's Clues. We want to be funny enough for teenagers so they tell their parents they want to skate, so their parents get more kids into skateboarding,
Starting point is 01:51:20 the industry grows, and then our sport thrives, and we share something we're passionate about with the next generation but these guys who are like don't engage in sports and games well yeah you're you're gonna grow up the reality is that cultures have always had some kind of entertainment some kind of toy some kind of side side interest like people don't just like work and go to church and that's it i mean that is those things are a big part of your daily activity but people need things other than that. So if you say, like, it's not worth it, I'm going to leave this space, then you are just leaving a vacuum.
Starting point is 01:51:49 It doesn't go away because you've decided it's not worth pursuing. That's what I love about what Tim's doing with the boonies. I think it's you. I wouldn't say the right. I'll just say the non-left. Like, yeah, the non-woke, the non-gatekeepers. Like, we've played,'ve both played Magic forever, right? Still do. Yeah, and I've played
Starting point is 01:52:08 since 1993 or 1994, and I'm not going to let people say I can't play the game that I grew up. You've been playing for a year, son. I've been playing for 20 years. You're not going to get to say you can't play my game. This is important, too. I'm really excited to talk with you
Starting point is 01:52:24 on Friday morning about this. With the Universes Beyond expansions they're doing, one of the big concerns about Magic the Gathering with Hasbro and all that is they've started making weird, woke characters. Do you see their CEO? Well, I can tell you that, you know, with the Lord of the Rings expansion, isn't it like they make Gandalf black
Starting point is 01:52:40 or something? They did. Aragorn. Yeah, Aragorn was black, yeah. And I'm like, I don't care that much about it, but it shows who they are and what they're doing. And I think they need to make new IP. I don't like the hand-me-down idea of making IP, like taking a character that's clearly like a white medieval character and then just deciding he's
Starting point is 01:52:55 black. But with Universes Beyond, they're doing things like Assassin's Creed, Fallout. They're not going to be able to control that IP in the same way, which means the Wokification is halted in the external IPs they don't own. Yeah. I never loved any of the gimmick stuff, but you're right about that. And it matters because Assassin's Creed is the new Universe is Beyond.
Starting point is 01:53:14 It's going to be tournament legal in a lot of different formats. Black Samurai, shout out. Oh, yeah. Japan's boycotting it. Their politicians are saying no. I am part Japanese, so I'm allowed to be offended. And those are the rules, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Okay, well, you know, they made a video game that takes place in feudal Japan. And one of the main characters is a black samurai. And I'm just like, dude, I don't care if you want to make a black samurai fighting game. But the franchise has historically been period pieces with characters who represent that period. So if you want to do Japan and represent the minority Japanese, give us a Japanese character. They did. It's a woman.
Starting point is 01:53:50 But then they selectively pick when games are historically accurate. Like Battlefield V. Oh, what are you guys upset about, bro? It's, you know, there were wheelchair women with pink hair and a missing arm in World War II. And like, I'm sorry, they say, oh, it's just a video game. But then when they want it, they're like, oh, no, but this is historically accurate. Right. Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:54:11 Here's Jacob Pauly. He says, RFK Jr. as head of FBI, CIA, EPA, or FDA would be great. I have my disagreements with Trump and RFK Jr., but I feel both of their hearts are in the right place. We need to have a grand coalition right and left populist in a big tent party. Jeremy for governor of Wisconsin. Yeah. Good luck. Write me in, baby.
Starting point is 01:54:28 Are you going to run? I haven't ran in a long time. I think it's pretty clear. I've announced my new political position. If elected president, I will ban paper straws. It would be the 20th amendment, no more paper straws, and then I resign. That's all you need, too. There's microplastics in there that go to your balls.
Starting point is 01:54:47 Single-issue voter against paper straws, that's got to be a sizable portion of the populace. Tyron Godd says, seeing Jeremy on TimCast again brings me back to the first episode I watched when you guys were talking about Biden being bit by a vampire in his 70s. Is that why he's still alive, I guess? Yeah, that's why. Alright, Stuart Votesburger says, can we get the 44,000 people watching to hit that like button?
Starting point is 01:55:16 We could. Do it. Okay, where were we just at? WG101 says, hey Jeremy, I know you're banned from Magic, but if you're still keeping up with it, what do you think of Wizards making Tarmogoyf into a token? Well, that's
Starting point is 01:55:32 extremely inside baseball. I hate it. I basically hate every decision Wizards has made in the last 10 years. So, as you can kind of default to that, go back to when they changed the card stock to the garbage trash. Remember when cards are good, now you open them up and they're already warping like that was the clear cut line of delineation for me in that company well they're
Starting point is 01:55:53 i my concern is that they're going to destroy the entire secondary market their mass oh my god they're basically just reprinting it now now they don't even care it's not it's not just that it's the it's the hyper expansions they're just printing reprinting it now. Now they don't even care. It's not just that. It's the hyper expansions. They're just printing so many expansions so rapidly that there is a benefit to it in terms of play in that you will never know what card someone has and you'll have massive opportunity for making really crazy decks and that's fun.
Starting point is 01:56:18 But it's also kind of like Magic as it was is ceasing to exist and what they're basically doing is white labeling out their format. So idea magic the other is the first trading card game ever made and the idea is like you have resource cards that you tap you turn to the side which symbolizes activation which allow you to with a certain number take a card from your hand and play it on the field and have its effects take a take you know enter the battlefield take take effect in the game they're basically saying our intellectual property and storytelling around our idea that we created is pointless and nobody likes it. So let's just take the format,
Starting point is 01:56:51 the framework of the game, and apply it to everything else. Now there's Fallout, Assassin's Creed, Warhammer, Lord of the Rings. It's smart. They're basically saying, hey, we got a card game. Do you want a Lord of the Rings card game? Tim, speaking of card games, have you seen the Enough is Enough card from the Illuminati card game. Do you want a Lord of the Rings card game? Tim, speaking of card games,
Starting point is 01:57:05 have you seen the Enough is Enough card from the Illuminati card game? I have. Does that not look like Donald Trump's? We have the Illuminati card game back at the... I know, but does that not look like Trump's face? It's crazy. All right, all right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:16 It's a bad assassination. Is it a World Trade Center card? Yeah. Fun fact, I was... The first internet video I was ever on was on this old show, Shout Out Stuff They Don't Want You To Know. And they brought me on to talk about the Illuminati card game. They're like, oh, you play Magic the Gathering.
Starting point is 01:57:31 Do you know anything about Illuminati? I'm like, I mean, yeah. I mean, yes, I do. Discovery Channel, fly me down. That would be great. Anyway, yeah, there's a lot of prophetic cards in that game. That's interesting. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:57:43 We're working on a card game too called Debate Me. I like it. Which is almost done and it's going to be a lot of fun. It's basically like Uno is Crazy Eights but with special cards. So we're doing Texas Hold'em but with special cards. Okay. Yeah, the goal is to build the best debate team and win all of the followers. Be the master, huh?
Starting point is 01:58:00 Yeah, so you're the master debater. So the idea is like there's four factions like there's four suits and then there's like you know trump is the ace of the right or whatever and the idea is you invite your followers to the debate and whoever makes the best debate team wins but it's not just poker the cards can have effects on them like wild cards or discard or just weird things like that and so uh it's gonna be fun then you'll be able to get your golden foil Donald Trump card. People think Magic the Gathering is ruined by woke ideology. Take a look at the board game space.
Starting point is 01:58:31 I won't nerd out too much, but that's like a million times worse. Oh, man. What's an example of a woke board game? Every major board game company. Every employee. No, no. There's a whole world of board games that most people don't know about. Most people think Monopoly, Candyland.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Well, Monopoly is not woke, right? I mean, isn't that capitalist? They did make a feminism version, I believe. They probably have, like, a masculine version. No, the best one is Care Bears Monopoly. Oh, I'll play that. Because the properties are the bears themselves, and so you're trading in ownership of the bears. Okay, I like that.
Starting point is 01:59:02 I like that. Yeah, I'm a big fan of that. We got it, and we were like, Amazon just sold out now. Thanks, Tim. We bought it. We went to a board game place. We bought a bunch,
Starting point is 01:59:09 and then we opened it up, and I was like, wait a minute. The properties are the Bears? And it's like, yeah. I don't know the names of the Care Bears. Yes, you do. I don't. You land on one,
Starting point is 01:59:19 and then you get a card representing that you've purchased the Bear. It's like a living thing you now own. I was like, wow, that's kind of brutal. I can think of several organizations that would probably be upset about this. Yeah. Let's grab a couple more Super Chats before we run out of time. Matthew Schneider says, Tim, live by the sword, die by the sword was from the book of Matthew.
Starting point is 01:59:37 Jesus told Peter that when the soldiers arrested Jesus, because he drew his. To all my Trump-supporting brothers and sisters, remember that verse. It is for you. God is in control. Yeah, he said... What did he say? Don't draw the sword for those that... I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:59:54 Live by the sword, will die by it, or something like that. I read the verse earlier, and I forget it. I know. What does Tupac say? Live by the gun, die by the gun? Tupac does say that. Tupac said that. So live by the gun, die by the gun? Tupac does say that. Tupac said that.
Starting point is 02:00:05 So live by the gun, die by the gun. All right. Lethal strain says if Donald J. Trump comes out Thursday speaking to the father of the kid from Saturday and saying he forgives or something along that line, 50 state win. No, no, no, no. I don't like bringing him out. The father of the kid. Yeah, I don't know if that makes sense i i understand the idea of donald trump saying he forgives them i think if donald trump gave a speech where he said a tragedy of our nation but that guy just lost his son too i must forgive those who trespass against me and and and just thank god that i'm alive here for you like that would probably benefit him greatly yeah it's i think i think trump will acknowledge what happened but i i expect that this speech will be really about the future right i mean he rewrote it right that's what he said not be when you have this this reminder that like every day that you get on
Starting point is 02:00:53 earth is a miracle and you're president donald trump i mean like this moment could be you know i'm sure he will address what happened but really i think what he's going to say to his supporters is like we need to we need to see ourselves to the ballot box in November. And then we need to push forward and really paint this picture of what America can be as we move away from such a tragic thing. Yeah, I think he'll only briefly mention it. If I had to bet, it would be like, I'm lucky to be here. I should be here. He won't talk about anything direct.
Starting point is 02:01:22 And I think he'll thank a lot of people. I mean, I think there will be an expression of gratitude. I think it will be difficult to talk about the shooter, his family, anything like that because we really just don't know enough right now. Yeah, the only 20-year-old ever to not use their cell phone for anything or their laptop for anything. He doesn't even use social media. It's crazy.
Starting point is 02:01:38 But yeah, I expect it to be a message about the future and about hope. There's a breaking story from about half an hour ago, about an hour ago, a guy with an ak and a ski mask was arrested at the rnc yeah there were some shots outside today that was different that was like a knife fight okay so we're gonna do we're gonna go to the members only show the call and show we'll we'll pull this stuff up we'll talk about that what so uh smash the like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends head over to timcast.com click join us a member. That show is starting in just a couple minutes.
Starting point is 02:02:05 You don't want to miss it. You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast. Jeremy, do you want to shout anything out? Hey, just check out my daily show live at 1 o'clock every day on Rumble. I hope you'll tune in. I appreciate, Tim, you having me on. And I appreciate everyone being on the panel. I've had a great time.
Starting point is 02:02:20 I'm looking forward to the rest of the festivities this week. Well, I got kicked out of the RNC, so you're not going to see me any longer here. But I do want to say thank you to Tim and go to castbrew.com and get some of that double two-time coffee. Shut up, Jeremy. Use promo code PRIMETIME. It's you. No, it's you, Hannah.
Starting point is 02:02:40 No, I'm last. No, no, no, it's you, Hannah. It's okay. All right, a lot. I'll go. So thanks for tuning in, guys. I'm a field reporter here at TimC Hannah it's okay alright a lot I'll go so thanks for tuning in guys I'm a field
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