Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #107 - Black Lives Matter Is Extorting Business For Money, Vandalize Those Who Oppose Them
Episode Date: August 4, 2020Cuban-Americans rally to show support for a Cuban small business owner who is being harassed by BLM, an MSNBC reporter quits in disgust at the state of modern mainstream media, Tim and Adam discuss an... old-school journalists' creed, and finally, a light in the darkness with Elon Musk's SpaceX. Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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In Louisville, Kentucky, a group of Black Lives Matter, I'll just say that because I'm going to
try to avoid the politicizing of what the group could be called at this point. All right, I'll
just call it mob, mafia, I don't know, whatever. They're going around to businesses demanding that
they put up a list of demands and one of the demands is cash. They want the businesses to pay
their approved businesses or
give 1.5% of their net sales
to approved non-profits.
And if you don't,
you know what happens. So apparently they
showed up to the guy's place of business and smashed
a potted plant. And it sounds so
much like a cheap
mobster movie. It's like, Jimmy,
show him what happens if he doesn't pay up.
Whack! And he smashes the
flower pot. I'm going to give him the clamps. The clamps. Give him the clamps. Feature on references.
We're really good at it. So look, it is just Louisville. I know a lot of people are going
to be saying things like, you can't say it's all Black Lives Matter, Tim, and stuff like that.
And it's like, what am I supposed to say? It's literally Black Lives Matter Louisville going
around and doing this.
And the scariest thing about it is that like a dozen or so businesses complied, signing a contract,
admitting to like systemic racism and being gentrifiers and all this other nonsense.
It's a contract where they have to draft their own apology statement or something.
And you got to hang it up in your business cuban immigrant who
came here on a raft at 18 years old said no and then all these cuban immigrants showed up holding
up signs saying we fled cuba to get away from socialism be careful what you wish for and i'm
just like here here man how is it that you get people in this country homegrown who want horrifying
systems are entitled want to smash up businesses or threaten people and steal money.
And then you have these hardworking Cuban immigrants come here on a raft with nothing and then earn the American dream.
I don't have an answer.
Yeah, I think I got to be fair, man.
I think we do a terrible job of raising our kids.
I mean it.
I don't have kids, but I know they're going to be awesome.
You think that?
Yeah.
No, I know it.
You're going to homeschool them?
I have two of my sisters have three kids each, and they're amazing kids.
Homeschooled?
Well, no, but they are there for them, and they raise them correctly.
I mean, I'm an uncle, and I play a part in that, and they're amazing kids. You know what, man? Yeah. I hear you. I mean, I'm an uncle and I, you know, I play a part in that and they're amazing
kids. So, you know what, man? Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. I agree. I think one of the issues is
bad parenting straight up. You get people who don't know how to tell their kids no, who don't
know how to teach their kids discipline, who don't show them how to function as mature, rational
adults. Yeah, it's the teacher's fault. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. There's a comic we talked about where it's like back in the day the teacher would tell the parents here's what your kid's
doing wrong and they'd look at the kid and say what did you do and today the kids done something
wrong and they're looking at the teacher saying what did you do yep my little snowflake can't do
anything wrong so now we end up with this i mean so they're literally going around we have a list
of demands i cover this on my on my main channel but uh i want to go over this and basically talk with Adam about it because I don't think you've seen the contract they posted.
I'd like to get your reaction.
No, I haven't.
It's a whole new level of psychotic.
Great.
I'm excited.
And they have a list.
It says repercussions for noncompliance.
And they literally threaten people with cancel culture saying we will go nuts on social media and destroy your business and everything. You know, what's crazy to me is that we do have an interesting
predicament with how these brigades will go on Yelp and things like Yelp, Google reviews,
and they'll write fake reviews for your business to damage your business reputation.
It's terrible.
I mean, is there a way, like, I do think we definitely need Section 230 reform here because it does become a problem.
There really is a First Amendment clash here.
A person's right to speak.
But how is one small business, one small Cuban restaurant supposed to deal with thousands of defamation cases?
Literally impossible.
So this is an interesting problem.
And I don't know if you can make Google responsible
for what these people are doing.
Maybe the organizers.
Do you think they deliver to us?
In Louisville?
I don't know about that.
Just trying to send some support.
But I'm paying close attention to this.
So the other story we have is another thing
that I covered before.
But we definitely need to talk about it.
We got a Monday show.
Apparently, in June, a bunch of high-ranking Democrats held, and never Trump or Republicans,
held a secretive war game where they did, like, legit war game, you know, mock-ups like they would for an actual war,
calculating what they thought would occur in the event uh during the
election just straight during the election okay they came up with four scenarios in only one of
them does donald trump win and in all of them there's street violence and chaos so we got this
article from ben smith in the new york times and i don't think ben realized what he wrote and how
scary it is.
Okay.
Very early in his article, because he's talking about like,
oh, the media is concerned and the election is going to be crazy.
But in the beginning, he writes that there's near panic among the nerds,
the people who track elections saying,
no, none of these state election boards know how they're going to count or even tally votes.
They're still counting the votes in New York.
Yep. Six weeks on and they don't know who or even tally votes. They're still counting the votes in New York. Yep.
Six weeks on and they don't know who won.
It's crazy.
If they can't do it for a primary election in New York, what is this?
It was one congressional district, I think, or a couple.
Imagine every single district in the country.
So what happens?
One of the scenarios, I guess, is that the House votes to approve Joe Biden for a win,
the Senate and the courts approve Trump.
And then here's the crazy thing about it.
John Podesta from the Clinton campaign, longtime Clinton ally, high ranking Democrat, one of
the top Democrats, was running this war game as Biden.
And he shocked everybody by saying, there's no way I can concede this under any
circumstance. So he actually, in the war, in this scenario, encouraged swing states to send
faithless electors to support Biden no matter what, and then encouraged the entire West Coast
to secede from the union. Now, you could say that these people are they're playing a war game.
It's not necessarily going to be true.
It's entirely possible that the election swing so hard for Trump.
Nothing.
None of this matters.
I think it's a strong possibility.
I think so, too.
But these are I mean, these are these are top ranking Democrats, former governors, professors from universities, Republicans.
These are the top political establishment people saying straight up.
Never, never Trump. Never Trump Republicans. These are the top political establishment people saying straight up. Never Trump.
Never Trump Republicans. Republicans.
Go on.
But they're basically playing this game where when it came down to it, they were like, we would rather have civil war and destroy the union than allow Trump to assume office.
That's because he's messing all their plans up.
Well, I think.
Like a boss.
If there are people who.
So one of the things people have said is like Trump said in what was it, 2016?
Yeah. Hillary Clinton said it's a good thing you're not in charge of law enforcement ever.
And he goes, because you'd be in jail. Yeah. And then everyone started laughing and cheering.
And that's what a lot of people think might happen. Now, I'm not going to I'm not talking about conspiracy theories.
I'm talking about literally Obamagate, that there are a bunch of high ranking administration officials and, you know, politicos that know they're better off personally in a civil war.
Yes, they'll they'll flee to Oregon and be like, quick, secede.
So I don't get arrested because Trump's taking office.
And this is it.
Scared.
He's coming after them all.
The Obamagate stuff, the Durham investigation, the reports coming out.
Oh, yeah.
This is this is not conspiracy stuff.
I'm not talking about, you know, any creepy nonsense.
I'm talking literally about Bill Barr, John Durham, and accusations of hard corruption.
And people believe that's why they're so adamant.
No way we're going to light it up before any of that happens.
Yep.
But we also got some other stories.
And I just got to mention this one before we dive right in.
MSNBC staffer, she quit. She said
that she goes into a long detail about the company just drives ratings. She doesn't like how the
business is being run. And she opens this article about why she's quitting about how it was hard to
do so. And it felt radical, but she's got to do it. And I want to give a pseudo standing ovation
because I say pseudo because I'm sitting in my chair in a podcast room, right? Well done. But,
but I really mean it like my greatest respect because I've been there.
It's like I would rather have uncertainty than work for these companies.
So that'll be interesting.
But let's do this.
Let's get started.
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Let's read this first story.
Some of you might be familiar with it because, you know, it's going insanely viral. I tweeted about this. It's from just the other day
at this story here is from the other day where they actually came up. The Cuban immigrants came
out and rallied against Black Lives Matter who are threatening them. But the tweet I put up has
like 20,000 retweets. So this is huge. So the initial story was that a group of Black Lives Matters,
Black Lives Matter activists.
There you go.
Are going around downtown Louisville
accusing these people
of being gentrifiers.
And because of that,
they have to pay hard cash.
A bunch of businesses agreed
to put up this contract
in their windows.
Dear new Lou, not this one specifically,
there's like this, it might be this one, but there's other ones, a list of demands specifically.
They want them to admit that their gentrification is an oppressive system targeting black folks for
400 years. Now, it's very creepy. A bunch of these businesses just said yes, but one business
said no. We are not an
enemy of the black community. Cubans rally to support Nulu businesses. Take a look at this
photo. All right, maybe the photos aren't. There we go. It says we left Cuba because of socialism.
Be careful what you wish for. Some of the demands requested by Black Lives Matter protesters
included that Nulu businesses adequately represent Louisville's black population by having a minimum
of 23% black staff. Now, there's more to that. They don't write it out, but no, they want front
facing. They said specifically that if someone walks in, they want front facing staff. So you'll
see who's working there. They said they want a purchasing minimum of 23% inventory from black retailers or donating 1.5% of net sales to a local
black nonprofit or organization and requiring diversity and inclusion training for all staff
members on a biannual basis. My goodness. Yeah. You know what's crazy about it? They're going to
a Cuban immigrants restaurant. He's got, I think he's got two restaurants now. It's called like the Ole Restaurant Group.
I think it is.
One of them is called La Bodeguita de Mima.
And there's another one.
I'm not entirely sure.
What do you think they said?
Some of these activists said when this Cuban immigrant came out and said,
I will not stand for these mafia tactics.
White supremacists.
They called him a supremacist.
Oh, okay. They said that he was proving that he believes in his supremacy. these mafia tactics white supremacists they called him they called him a supremacist okay they said
that he was proving that he believes in his supremacy they couldn't call him a white supremacist
because he's a cuban immigrant right but they still tried and they called him uh racist and
they said he thinks black lives don't matter he said that or they're putting that in his mouth no
he definitely did not say that right He said he stands with the community.
He stands with all people.
He's got his family.
He's got black family.
He's got a gay son.
He absolutely believes in social justice and civil rights.
But the only thing they can do is that's the only weapon they have.
There's a tweet going around saying that the left is really good at semantics.
They changed the definition of words
and they name themselves things
that make it really hard to argue against
for dumb people,
like Black Lives Matter.
If you oppose this group of people
threatening small businesses
and demanding money,
otherwise they have a list of repercussions
for noncompliance,
then you must not think Black Lives Matter.
Well, Don Jr., Donald Trump Jr. retweeted your tweet just saying simply,
that's extortion.
And he was right.
That would be correct.
That's literally what this is.
They're extorting businesses for money.
And you know how much I'd be willing to bet the cops aren't going to do anything about it.
As we've seen with the expansion of morality policing the mayor of louisville is now saying
that he wants he thinks they should declare public uh racism a public health crisis well if that's
true you can't go go around arresting the people who are going to solve that problem now can you
yeah and that's that's that's the trick that's the lie so you got antifa but that just means
anti-fascist while they go around giving giving explosives to people to start fires, blow things up and
beat people, if you say anything bad about them, you're pro-fascist.
So there's a fake tweet going around.
They do this all the time.
One of the biggest problems we have right now with the left using memes for news is
that a good portion of them are just fake.
Yep.
One of them was a group saying, it was the LAPD, I think, a fake tweet saying,
we oppose Antifa and always will.
We're exactly the opposite of whatever Antifa is.
And so I read that knowing what Antifa is.
And I'm like, oh, so they're like libertarian, you know, anarcho-capitalists.
Yeah.
No, but because Antifa thinks, you know, from their perspective,
Antifa just means opposed to fascism.
That means the LAPD was admitting they were fascists.
When in reality, the tweet was entirely fake.
There's a thread from Zach Goldberg going through a bunch of data points.
And one of them is that the left is substantially more likely to have been diagnosed with mental health issues.
Wait, who is that, Zach?
I don't exactly know do you
know what his title is he's like a researcher i think yeah he is he researches i think social
justice i'll look him up he's like a government position or no no no i don't think so general
academia yeah what is he social scientist yeah hold on let me check let's get his let's let's
he might just be a random dude on twitter who's pulling data from other social scientists hold
on i'll eat it here i need i need the receipts yeah all right he's a phd student slash wokeness studies caller researching the great awokening okay i don't know what school
he's at though so yeah he's a he's a student he's showing data from various uh charts and he's
citing all of them but but i say i'm crediting him for putting a thread together okay and one
of them shows that the further left you go the more likely you are to have been diagnosed with
a mental illness and interestingly the far right is you are to have been diagnosed with a mental illness. And interestingly, the far right is more likely to have been diagnosed with a mental illness
than conservatives. So I think they call it like strong conservative or something.
Okay.
Meaning that there is a point where it's like you go off into the deep end.
But one of the things he also pointed out was that the left has a much higher index of depression.
And once you go
towards the right depression goes away like happiness and general life satisfaction goes way
up which makes me start to think something about what we see with like what black lives matter is
doing with what antifa does and how they name their groups and then get away with this stuff
i see from so many people we mentioned this that they just screenshot facebook posts they'll
screenshot tweets and that's their news. And they'll share these things.
And I can't tell you how many times I've seen a bunch of these posts where they're like,
if you're upset that someone's getting $600 a week in unemployment, then maybe these companies
should be paying them more. And I'm like, okay, the unemployment was a 100% guarantee plus $600.
So no matter how much they were making, they were still getting more money.
And so I've gone probably through like 50 posts where I see these pop up and I just like type it
really quick. Like here's, you know, here's the thing, here's the thing, here's the thing,
here's the thing. But it's all they keep doing to share this information. I think what we're seeing
is not that liberals or leftists
are more likely to be mentally ill. It's that mentally ill people are more likely to be leftist.
Why? Because they believe fake news. They believe these fake memes, these fake tweets,
these fake posts. And then you end up with moderates and conservatives and non-mentally
ill liberals who all fall under one tent saying like, we oppose this kind of behavior.
Yeah.
But if you get a group that says, you know, their name is Black Lives Matter and a regular person can understand the distinction between that doesn't literally mean they think that,
especially when there have been several people have lost their lives who have been black
during the riots and they said nothing about it.
Or that Antifa literally, you know, just because you call yourself the good guys doesn't mean
you're the good guys. Whether you're a liberal, a moderate, or conservative,
you can understand those concepts. If you're not all with it, you probably can't. And you get your
information from memes. And if it's beyond just like a diagnosed mental illness, and it's literally
somebody who's just like a bunch of low IQ people, then they're not going to be able to sort through
this stuff. And they're just going to be forming angry mobs,
which is literally what they're doing.
And then when a group goes around threatening businesses,
well, no one stops them because the angry mob is loud.
Yeah, and they thrive as victims.
The whole victimhood thing is rampant on the far left.
They really thrive in being victims together.
I mean, everything they're talking about is,
we're victims, we're victims, we're victims.
And that's it.
Basically, if you look at everything they say,
that's the root.
They're all victims.
They're all being oppressed.
I think a lot of them know
that they're lying about being victims.
Okay.
And I think it's like narcissistic personality disorder,
borderline, you know know histrionic all of
this like really just aggressive and angry and so they're going around and threatening people
with the weapon they've been handed victimhood yep so they see it it's like a clear path hey man
i'll go to this business and i'll walk up and i'll say here's my demands you're gonna pay up or no
and then when they say no smash some of their property up and say we'll, here's my demands. You're going to pay up or no. And then when they say no, smash some of their property up and say, we'll be back. So, so these are the, I read the demands
already. I think there's a, look at this. I'm not going to read this. This is, this is the
new Lou business owners representation contract. I'm not going to read it, but I'm almost,
I almost have to, so you can, so, so people can hear what it is, but I don't want to say these
words. I'll read the first part. I, as a business owner in the gentrified Nulu business district, understand that gentrification targets poor and
disadvantaged communities of color. And as such, I acknowledge that the original residents,
here we go, my business has played a part in this, that the community members were replaced,
that many of the original residents were repatriated. I am therefore committing to,
you know, fix things.
And then they say, to correct this lack of representation, I commit to increasing black representation in my business operations. And this shall include, this is where they say,
you know, staff and management positions, you know, for black employees, buying from black
vendors or giving 1.5% of our monthly annual profits, 23% of black businesses and board membership in the
new loop business association.
Here's my favorite.
Here's my favorite part.
They mentioned, I can't search through this.
One of the things they say is that you have to submit that we, we demand that you submit
to a voluntary audit.
What?
Yes.
Well, that's not, that's not voluntary you're demanding it we demand you
submit to a voluntary you know uh where is it where is it whatever here's uh it's it's in here
somewhere but it's a this is a photo so i can't actually do a search for it but here check this
out repercussions of non-compliance reduction in racial index score bias report to the Better Business Bureau.
I don't think these people realize that that's like telling someone you're going to complain to Google.
They want to speak to the manager?
The Better Business Bureau is like they don't do anything.
It's just like Yelp.
It's like Yelp before the internet.
Right.
So it's like I'm going to call the Better Business Bureau and people are like, I don't care. Okay, just like it's like yelp it's like yelp before the internet right so it's like i'm gonna call the better business bureau and people like i don't care okay okay karen yeah
exactly social media blast notification via all social media platforms of non-compliance
boycott public boycott coordinated through social media and mail announcements of your
nulu establishment and any other business ventures owned by you.
Protest.
Visible media cover demonstration sitting outside your establishment.
Invasive reclamation.
Placement of booths and tables outside your establishment where competing black
proprietors will offer items comparable to those offered by you.
Wow, that sounds an awful lot like extortion, Tim.
It does.
The only thing is that
the demands are more of an
ideological bent.
So it's like, what would it be called?
I guess it's still extortion.
What would it be called if a bunch of Mormons walked around
and they went to business to business, but instead
of being polite and happy with smiles on their face,
they had bats and they were like,
donate to the church or else.
That'd still be extortion. Extortion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like a sharia patrol.
Yeah.
Morality policing.
Literally.
Yeah.
So we were talking the other day and I was like, I said, the police will come to your
house and knock on the door and say you can't play rap music anymore.
Yeah.
It was a bit of an exaggeration, but this is basically it.
They're going to, so not necessarily the residential houses yet.
They've done that to politicians.
We'll see if they start going to regular people, which they probably will, in my opinion, soon.
They're going to businesses now and saying, here's what you must do to be in the good
graces of the movement.
And they want you to admit this is crazy.
I blank see and support the black community as a business owner, dedicate my time.
I pledge, therefore, blah, blah, blah.
You got to put your name.
You got to put your business address and sign an apology acknowledging the faults of your privilege.
You have to submit.
We demand you submit to a voluntary audit.
I wonder if I want to find that.
But anyway, this is what they're demanding of people.
In which case, what is this? Maf this a mafia yeah that's what i was
thinking so well so now here's what i don't think the police will do anything about it
you can have every everybody in the world tweet about it but we've already seen
i i i do not see the police crossing you know these activists or extremists or whatever i call
it mafiosos.
They're just going to keep doing what they're doing.
No one's going to stop them.
But there are people who are starting to speak up. So to be fair, this guy in Louisville at this restaurant is, you know,
standing up, pushing back and saying no.
Yep.
Now they have, what is this?
The level of representation shall be achieved by August 17th, 2020,
with incremental increases of 5% in each six-month period.
Well, there you go.
This is what we can expect to happen.
And now, when you look at how the press handles this kind of stuff, this is why I'm not confident that we're going to see de-escalation.
I don't know if you saw what happened with the NBA dude.
What was his name?
Jonathan Isaacs.
Yeah, I saw it.
It's terrible what they're, what, I mean, the Democrats are, and the crazy left are
basically being like, good, good riddance.
He got hurt.
It's karma.
Well, so he's the guy who stood for the national anthem.
And even his teammates seem to be supporting him, like let him doing his thing.
And then he tore his ACL, which was already weakened.
He had a knee brace on.
And then he goes for a jump shot, I guess,
or something, or a dunk. I don't know.
I'm not a basketball kind of guy. But he falls.
He falls down. And now they're like,
irony, they're laughing,
he stood for the National Anthem, stuff like that.
But when it happens, you can see the
other people wearing the Black Lives Matter
sweaters, they
run in, and they're concerned about
him. I think that that to me
was was like you know a good sign that even these dudes who are you know clearly doing two different
kind of movements or whatever still recognize their friends and all that but based on how we've
seen the treatment of herman cain when he passed versus john lewis yep when you see what happens
to this nba player the media like listenier Journal, of course, is talking about the story.
There's protests going on.
It's local news.
Did CNN cover it?
New York Times?
Washington Post?
Vox?
No, they don't want to show people standing up against this.
They don't want to show them extorting people.
Or extorting people, right?
Both.
You know?
Yep.
You hear what happened in Rockford, Illinois?
No, what happened?
So there was a back the blue protest just a bunch of people and I guess
at the very the tail end there was like four or five
anti back the blue you know Black Lives Matter
yelling Black Lives Matter at them and then they got violent and they
sent SWAT in there and took them out. The
far leftists or what? The far leftists. They arrested each one of them.
So for each of these things, that's also
not on the news. We're seeing these specific examples of
like this. I mean, this isn't even being on the news. But morality
policing is sure it's happening. But at the same time, I'm seeing
plenty of other instances where
these cops are like we're not going to take this this is this is ridiculous we're not the mask
police we're you know you you get violent in our town we're going to arrest you and yeah you're
going to go to prison and that's what happened well let's see if louisville does it i mean the
mayor is clearly supporting this weird intersectional identity stuff. But, you know, to be fair,
too, I want to make sure we clarify when they say the media won't cover it. It typically refers to
national level media like Brian Stelter on CNN goes on his show and he goes, and there it is
more proof of dictator Donald Trump or some other stupid nonsense because Trump said something
because Trump tweeted about delaying the election question mark and i tweeted i'm like trump tweeted the the governor of new jersey had small business owners
arrested yeah for trying to open their their gym in this in a sleepy suburb right so you want to
talk to me about who's a dictator who's a fascist whatever it's it's it's in it's absolutely insane
man and then we got uh black lives mafia over here black lives mafia you know
louisville what how is this not news how are people not talking about this i've heard stuff
like this has happened in other places i just couldn't find any confirmation yeah it's crazy
because that's a big issue are people actually going to cover this and the courier journal i
believe is part of usa today but it's not for it reaches the national level because i
tweet about it so it's it's look when i posted this story the first time i didn't think i'd get
that many retweets i got like 20 000 yeah and and i was like whoa i don't and and now all of a sudden
we're starting to see it's conservative outlets conservative commentary starting to cover this
of course but the mainstream large news outlets
have been totally co-opted by the far left. So this is the important thing to realize when people
talk about the mainstream media is that there's clearly left wing media. There's clearly right
wing media. And then there's establishment corporate media that is dominated entirely
by far left ideology or at least bends the knee to it, which is going to
make things really, really interesting as we move now into an election, because we have this New
York Times article from Ben Smith. It's really interesting. He mentions that our media operates
like election commissions. When we're trying to figure out who actually won, we go about this in
a really weird way. The news
outlets just tell us and we assume they're telling the truth, even though they're just
making predictions. Isn't that weird? Yeah, I mean, I always assume I guess weird isn't isn't
what I would use the term. Well, I always assumed that like the official reporting coming into the
news outlets was that they would hear from like
the state election board saying we've confirmed this is the results that's not the case they're
taking like polling data and they're making phone calls and then saying here's our projection hey
who did you vote for hey who did you vote for who did you vote for is that is that what they're
saying what they do because who's gonna tell them trump no one's gonna say that well they we've
known that well they do well they did, they did in 2016, right?
They didn't want to.
And they do call the election boards,
but ultimately it's just like they're not certified results.
And so what ends up happening is we had the very famous 2000 moment
where Fox News called Florida for George Bush,
but then everyone said he didn't.
And they were like, wait, what happened?
And then Al Gore rescinded his concession,
and then it went to the courts, and then Bush won.
Because the media is telling us who won.
Instead of us waiting a week, we created this spectacle where the day of election.
Now we're not going to have that.
Well, no one trusts the media either anymore.
So, you know, that's not going to work anyway.
This story here from the Boston Globe is this is actually relatively old story.
It's from June, but we're getting new information on a bipartisan group secretly gathering to game
out a contested Trump Biden election. And it wasn't pretty, they say. I can go through all
the details, but suffice to say, it's very, very simple. All of the scenarios result in street level violence, political impasse.
The law is essentially helpless.
They predicted four scenarios, one in which Trump wins, but only with the Electoral College.
And in that scenario, Joe Biden would not concede.
Well, and you said this earlier, all of the people that are in this group doing this
don't like Trump at all. Yeah, they're all never Trumpers. Correct. Right. All of them. Yeah. So
what's really interesting is actually this op, this column from Ben Smith over at the New York
Times, how the media would get the election story wrong. We may not know the results for days and
maybe weeks. So it's time to rethink election night. I don't think there's going to be an
election night or even election month right now in New York City. They're still trying to count
the mail-in ballots from six weeks ago, and they don't know who won these primaries.
The mail-in ballots. Hmm. Sounds like there's something fishy with mail-in ballots.
But take a look at how the column ends, and then we'll talk about, you know, what this means in terms of these scenarios. They say,
conveniently, a group of former top government officials called the Transition Integrity Project
actually gamed four possible scenarios, including one that doesn't look that different from 2016,
a big popular win for Mr. Biden, and a narrow electoral defeat, presumably reached after weeks
of counting the
votes in Pennsylvania. For their war game, they cast John Podesta, who was Hillary Clinton's
campaign chairman in the role of Mr. Biden. They expected him when the votes came in to concede,
just as Mrs. Clinton had. The only issue? Yeah, he didn't. Mr. Podesta, playing Biden,
shocked the organizers by saying he felt his party wouldn't let him
concede.
Alleging voter suppression, he persuaded the governors of Wisconsin and Michigan to send
pro-Biden electors to the Electoral College, presumably at odds with what the results actually
were.
In that scenario, California, Oregon, and Washington then threatened to secede from
the United States if Mr. Trump took office as planned.
The House named Biden president.
The Senate and White House stuck with Trump.
At that point in the scenario, the nation stopped looking to media outlets for cues
and waited to see what the military would do.
So here's the scenario I have.
What happens when Fox News says Donald Trump has won?
And then MSNBC says Joe Biden has won and then msnbc says joe biden has won and the results are
insanely different and so then what you just said you had it you you go what what do you think well
then you end up with this scenario exactly as they said it there the the left is going to argue we
didn't lose we won the it's reported in the press fake fox news is fake news and then fox is going to argue we didn't lose. We won. It's reported in the press. Fox News is fake news.
And then Fox is going to report it for Trump.
And then the people are going to say MSNBC, CNN, these are fake outlets.
You're going to have all the liberals saying there's no way all of these outlets are fake.
Right wing media is lying.
The left, Joe Biden, his camp are going to say right wing media is just trying to,
they're fascists trying to support Trump.
And you're going to end up with people who actually read the news,
who actually know the data, are going to be called right wing. And it won't matter what
you believe or what you don't believe. I think the military will side with Trump.
I think so. I think so. But it's hard to know for sure. We've already had several,
you know, former generals come out against him and slam him.
That doesn't mean anything. They're former like the military
right now. I mean, I personally know people that are fed up with what's happening,
saying I'm sick of the Democrats. I'm sick of what's going on. And I'm just I think they decide
with him. They decide with the president. Well, we need to see how the election goes.
But there's an even worse scenario not listed in any of these games. And that's an election night in-person polling landslide for Trump that they refuse to call
because of mail-in ballots.
And then over the course of a few weeks, ballots keep pouring in and it flips for Biden.
550 million votes for Biden.
It's like there's only 350 million Americans.
It could be something like Trump gets 64 million and they're like, you know, or because of mail-in voting, it would be split between Trump and Biden.
But they'll be like 50 million votes cast for Trump and 40 million for Biden.
It looks like it should be a landslide, but we still have mail-in ballots, so we're not going to call it tonight.
And then every week Biden gets, you know, three or four million and Trump gets
like a half a million. And then in the span of like three or four weeks, all of a sudden,
Joe Biden is now the winner. And then no matter what happens, Trump's like, where are these
ballots coming from? How is this possible? Where did all these votes come from? What matter?
Well, they keep printing dollars. Probably they keep printing ballots. Just keep printing ballots.
We'll be good. The crazy thing is that this did happen in 2018, but the Republicans didn't contest it.
So there were races.
So this is an interesting thing.
I often talk about how I was wrong in 2018.
Okay.
Maybe I wasn't.
Go on.
Depending on how conspiratorial you want to get.
Go on.
So I thought the Republicans were going to dominate.
They controlled every branch of everything, basically.
And I was considering this insanity that we're seeing in the press and cancel culture i can't imagine that you know the house would flip you know this blue wave would
really hit conservatives basically won for the most part there in the initial reporting and then
i basically i made a video saying there was it was a red wave there was no blue wave yeah but then
over the next several days to a week or whatever, new votes just started popping in. And then all of a sudden,
the race has started flipping in favor of Democrats. Trump said that this would happen.
And, you know, basically, I don't know the exact tweets he put out, but something alluding to,
you know, interference, fraud or whatever. But then when they all won, no one of the Republicans tried to stop it.
Nobody filed suit.
It just accepted it as, you know, that's what happened.
And then, of course, the Democrats with their new House majority tried to impeach the president
and then started doing a whole bunch of, you know, insane, insane stuff.
Like Adam Schiff published private details of an American journalist without a warrant.
That's messed up.
Yeah, he used the subpoena power of Congress.
And I guess Judicial Watch challenged them, and they lost.
Like, Congress is allowed to seize a private citizen's personal information, phone records,
and publish them with no consequence.
That's messed up.
Yep.
Wow.
Take a look at this from the New York Times.
They say,
Ben Smith writes, I spoke last week to executives, TV hosts, and election analysts across leading American newsrooms, and I was struck by the blithe confidence among some top
managers and hosts who generally said they've handled complicated elections before and can do
so again. And I was alarmed by the near panic among some of the people playing, paying close
attention, the analysts and producers trying and often failing to get answers from state election
officials about how and when they will count the ballots and report results. The nerds are freaking
out, said Brandon Finnegan, the founder of Decision Desk HQ, which delivers election results to media
outlets. I don't think it's penetrated enough in the average viewer's mind that there's not going to be an election night.
The usual razzmatazz of a panel sitting around
discussing election results, that's dead.
So, how many buildings are going to get burned down
on November 4th, November 3rd?
I mean, I was just in Philadelphia yesterday
and half of the buildings I was,
I mean, I was driving down the street, half the buildings were boarded up. They all
had Black Lives Matter stuff written
on the outside of the boards and all I can see is like, man, they're just pleading
not to burn their business down. That's all I can see. It's scary.
Black Lives Mafia, man. It's actually ringing true
more and more the more we go on
it's been hijacked that's what i've been saying they put up signs saying please don't hurt us
yeah they they paint in their windows we support you please please they put up antifa signs i'll
tell you what man antifa is out of the question at this point antifa is as far as i'm concerned
the narrative of antifa is over you know why why what used to be antifa now just flies black lives
matter flags right it's a good point they still still have their Antifa flags, but they're wearing shirts that say Black Lives Matter.
They put up signs that say Black Lives Matter.
Yeah, it's the shield.
Yeah, the shields say Black Lives Matter.
So they're no longer Antifa now.
Now there is an organization.
Congratulations.
They like to say Antifa isn't actually an organization.
Okay, Black Lives Matter is.
They receive funding, and the people running around. Okay, Black Lives Matter is. They receive funding
and the people running around with shields have Black Lives Matter written on them.
They receive funding and they extort businesses.
That's right. Have any of the, and overtly as Black Lives Matter. Now, here's the important
question. Has any of these Black Lives Matter organizers with these massive protests in
Portland, Oregon denounced the explosives being used?
Not that I know of.
Not that I know of. Maybe they did.
And if they did, then, you know, thank you.
I'm glad.
But I don't think they did.
So here's what I would say.
There's going to be some testimony before Congress about Antifa.
And that's wrong.
Andy Ngo is going to be testifying among other people.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
The people in Portland, they can claim to be Antifa.
They may have been Antifa in the past.
But the 60 nights of violent riots was under the
banner of Black Lives Matter.
That's true.
And I'm not saying that to agitate or to be emotional.
Literally, they have shields that say Black Lives Matter on them.
They put bills, like paper, flyers, on the fencing saying Black Lives Matter.
It's reported in the press they're protesting for George Floyd and for Black Lives Matter.
Then Black Lives Matter has a national organization that raises tons of money.
They have high profile personalities. And have any of them called this out? In fact,
when it came to the dude in Louisville who's being extorted, they actually came out attacking
the business owner for trying to resist the extortion attempt. Has anyone from the parent
organization condemned the extortion going on in Louisville? Not that I've seen. And that could just be me. It could be the media, to be fair,
but not that I've seen. In which case, the conversation needs to be put forth that Black
Lives Matter needs to stop the violence, the explosives, the weapons. And there's even NAACP
leaders calling this out. In Oregon specifically, there's one guy who was saying that this whole
event has become a white spectacle. It was supposed to be about Black Lives Matter,
and now they've just taken the whole thing over. Numerous, numerous black activist leaders have
been saying that the far left has co-opted Black Lives Matter. Now you have overt Marxism and the
far left engaging in violence. They're not flying the Antifa flag anymore. So that needs
to be pointed out. And if they have a problem with that, then you need to call out the violent
extremists who are flying your flag and being extremists. There's no excuse. You got to do it.
So the interesting thing that Ben Smith brings up is that the media, for some reason,
takes the place of national election commissions. He says here, the media actually assembles the
results from 50 states, tabulates them and declares a victor. And we can't really
help ourselves. The media establish establishes the narrative to explain what happened.
He then goes on to talk about how this resulted in 2000 with Gorby Bush and all that stuff.
And then he basically brings up the point that they don't know what's going to happen.
Many of these people have have not woken up to the fact
that there's not going to be an election. A lot of the people who work at, say, like CNN
and MSNBC and all that seem to think that the companies that provide them data are able and
ready, and they're not. So I can only imagine that you're going to see like Wolf Blitzer standing
there, and he's going to be like, no data coming in. And we're five hours in. Still no data.
And then it's like four in the morning.
It's like 0% across the board.
Nothing.
Nothing happens.
No election night.
Yep.
So then what do we do as a country?
Oh, I wish I had all the answers.
I don't have any of them.
Anybody know?
Anybody know what we do?
Buy a ranch. Buy gold. we do? Buy a ranch.
Buy gold.
Buy Bitcoin.
Buy a ranch.
Yeah.
Buy a bug out van.
Yeah, get out of cities, I guess.
Yeah, I don't know.
Everyone's getting armed.
That's true.
We got record gun sales.
I wonder.
I really wonder about this.
You know, I was thinking about, we talk a lot about the potential for war and stuff.
And maybe we can talk about this in a bit like in
a fuller fuller segment but i was curious like we've got people decentralizing our economy by
leaving cities yeah we've got people buying weapons people buying gold people buying stocks
and interestingly it's it's like these things would greatly benefit us in a in a war but the
other thing i realized too is that with the economy taking
a massive hit, I wonder if we're going to reach every enlistment goal for every branch of the
armed forces. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not, you know, I could be wrong about this. My understanding
is that basically when the economy does bad, enlistment skyrockets because it's a guaranteed
job. So I wonder if this will still end up benefiting us as well. There's talk, talk's
floating around.
But so while we're talking about media, I want to use this opportunity to jump to the
next bit because, you know, when it comes to extortion, when it comes to the media,
when it comes to the lies, man, this story right here, this is just like a personal blog
for Ariana and Picarri.
Personal news, why I'm now leaving MSNBC.
You know why she's leaving? Because of fake news. Finally. Picari. Personal news why I'm now leaving MSNBC.
You know why she's leaving?
Because of fake news.
Finally. It's refreshing to see someone actually leave
because, I mean, that's
basically what you did, you know, when they were like...
They wouldn't let me leave.
For a year. What did you do, though?
I mean, I still did work. For the whole year.
I did work, but they didn't like what I was producing.
So I worked for a company that was a joint venture
between ABC News and Univision,
and they did not like the content I was doing
because they wanted to do social justice.
Because it was honest.
No, no, no. It's not even that.
I went to Fukushima.
I know. It was cool.
Yeah, so I went to Japan, and we did this story about
the radioactive disaster, the the nuclear disaster it was it
was a clever idea i was like the idea i had for a good documentary series was to take a look at
video games and movies that have concepts and then produce documentaries around the concepts
so you have like a non-fiction version that explores the ideas so when fallout 4 was coming
out i was like why don't we go and go to you know fukushima we'll
call it fallout from fukushima and then when everyone's really excited about this video game
we'll have like a hey here's the real world you can learn some you know facts and it worked out
really well yeah it was a good it was a good series so the interesting thing about it it's
not political they didn't like it they wanted they wanted woke politics and i didn't want to
do it i want those clicks, baby.
It wasn't clicks.
I was getting clicks.
I was getting more views than basically anybody at the company.
And they even told me that the president of the company said,
you get more traffic than anyone else here.
And I was like, then why won't you listen?
They were obsessed with embracing far-left intersectionality and feminism.
And I could only speculate as to why based on what I was told by their consultants.
So the consultants may be the end all be all, but it was basically them.
They believed that in the next several years, this country will be entirely intersectional.
Seems like they weren't entirely wrong, though the company couldn't succeed in actually
generating any kind of buzz.
But they believed within the next five to 10 years or so, this would be it.
The entire country would be woke,
and therefore you must be woke now
to get in early to win.
Wait, hold on. What happened to them? Didn't they go broke?
Oh yeah, they went super broke.
All that money just
gone. Yep. Well, take a look at this story.
Let's actually read.
So I'm not familiar with who Ariana Picari
is, but she writes, quote, just quit. That's the advice Alec gave a year and a half
ago when I expressed concerns about my job. You just quit. It's that simple. Stay at MSNBC at
least until the midterms, Jeffrey said a couple of years back. He advised to watch and see what
happens. Hang in there. You're needed. Elizabeth recommended last winter. I was in your
shoes when I was younger, but I stuck it out. A year and a half ago, simply quitting my job
without knowing my next step sounded pretty radical. So I stuck it out a bit longer until
we were in the middle of a pandemic to make a truly radical move. July 24th was my last day
at MSNBC. I don't know what I'm going to do next exactly, but I simply couldn't
stay there anymore. My colleagues are very smart people with good intentions. The problem is the
job itself. It forces skilled journalists to make bad decisions on a daily basis.
You may not watch MSNBC, but just know that this problem still affects you too.
All the commercial networks function the same, and no doubt that content seeps into your
social media feed one way or the other. It's possible that I'm more sensitive to the editorial
process due to my background in public radio, where no decision I ever witnessed was predicated
on how a topic or a guest would rate. The longer I was at MSNBC, the more I saw such choices.
It's practically baked into the editorial process, and those decisions
affect news content every day. Likewise, it's taboo to discuss how the rating scheme distorts
content or it's simply taken for granted because everyone in the commercial broadcast news industry
is doing the exact same thing. But behind closed doors, industry leaders will admit the damage
that's being done. Quote, you're going to love it.
You guys ready for the nuclear bomb?
Yeah.
We are a cancer and there is no cure.
A successful and insightful TV veteran said to me,
but if you could find a cure, it would change the world.
It's easy.
It's the easiest cure in the world.
You just stop watching.
You stop watching.
Everyone stops watching them. Everyone realizes that they're fake. one's gonna go their ratings will die it's it's you know look msnbc
and and cnn are as fake as they can get yeah but people are addicted to this stuff they believe it
they trust it and they grew up being told fox news is fake news. Fox News is biased for sure, but their daytime news stuff is actually really good.
And I've heard journalism professors say this stuff, but the left can't accept it.
They've been wrapped up into this resistance, insane mindset.
And this is what you get.
You get people who exploit this and they grow and they become powerful.
Now, to be fair, if you look at my content, it is absolutely hyper-focused. A lot of the stuff
we talk about is, you know, very political. It has its bias and everything, but there's a big
difference between, you know, for my content, a dude who reads the news and talks about his
opinion and tries to make sure, you know, I'm telling you what I think is reasonable and honest,
the best of my abilities as kind of a, you, independent, left-leaning kind of person.
And then you have, for this show, a small group of people just opining on cultural issues in
politics and talking about the election coming up. When you compare those things, the big difference
to, let's say, MSNBC is an editorial boss who says, no, I know you care about that story, Adam.
We're not going to run with it
because it's not going to do well for the show.
But I want to talk about space.
But we're going to talk about space
so that we actually have SpaceX ready, you know?
Yeah.
So we're going to talk about like SpaceX and stuff.
And there have been segments we've done.
I can't remember which segment we did.
Didn't do all that well.
And it was because something we wanted to talk about.
But that's the thing.
When you're an individual and you're like,
here's stuff I care about and I want to talk about this and people like listening to what you say about these certain topics, you'll do well. But then if you look at YouTube,
guess what? YouTube, where all of this political commentary exists, is not unified. If you watch,
you know, Steven Crowder, you're going to get a conservative opinion. You watch Tim Pool,
you're going to get a more moderate opinion. You watch Kyle Kalinske, you'll get a progressive opinion. And it's all under the
same YouTube. Imagine if MSNBC was like that. You turn it on at any given point or you go to
their website and you have a bunch of different political opinions. That's what happens when
YouTube and Facebook or whatever, I'm not a big fan of these big tech companies, but when they
allow individuals to create content, you end up with independent editorial decisions. And I'll talk to people who say they watch me, they watch Crowder,
and Jimmy Dore. Jimmy Dore, I think, is a socialist. He's pretty far left. Yeah, he is.
He's a socialist? Yeah. Because I don't want to tell him what his views are. I think Jimmy's great.
He's anti-establishment. He's pretty far left. But there are people who will watch all of us.
That's good for you.
If you only watch MSNBC, you're probably going insane.
And that's why this woman quits.
Let's read a little bit more.
As it is, this cancer stokes national division, even in the middle of a civil rights crisis.
The model blocks diversity of thought and content because the networks have incentive
to amplify fringe voices and events at the expense of others, all because it pumps up the ratings.
This cancer risks human lives. Even in the middle of a pandemic, the primary focus quickly became
what Donald Trump was doing poorly to address the crisis rather than the science itself.
As new details have become available about antibodies, a vaccine, or how COVID actually
spreads, producers still want to focus on the politics. Important facts or studies get buried.
This cancer risks our democracy, even in the middle of a presidential election.
Any discussion about the election usually focus on Donald Trump, not Joe Biden,
a repeat offense from 2016. Trump smothers out all other coverage. Also important is to ensure citizens
can vote by mail this year. But I've watched that topic get ignored or killed numerous times.
Wow. Context and factual data are often considered too cumbersome for the audience.
There may be some truth to that. Our education system really should improve critical thinking
skills of Americans. I'm sorry, Ariana. I don't think they help. I think they hinder, to be honest.
But another hard truth is that it is the job of journalists to teach and inform,
which means they might need to figure out a better way to do that. They could contemplate
more creative methods for captivating an audience. Just about anything would improve the current
process, which can be pretty rudimentary. Think basing today's content on
whatever rated well yesterday, or look to see what's trending online today.
She did make a good point, though, about that education. She said it really should
improve. Not that it doesn't. That's what she's saying. So you just said you don't agree with her,
but she's literally saying that schools should improve critical thinking skills.
That's what we need. We need more people using critical thinking to handle things.
I guess I should say, to clarify, I don't think schools will work. I'm not convinced that without
some kind of radical, absolute deconstruction of the entire system and reforming in a totally
radical and different way, I am 100% opposed to institutionalized learning facilities,
which separate kids from their parents so they don't learn from their parents, puts them under the care of people who typically don't care about them, and then sends them off to colleges where you've got a bunch of radical lunatics who don't actually work in their field.
I agree.
The system is messed up.
The school system needs – I mean, it goes back to unions, really.
The teachers' unions are protecting bad teachers, and it's a bad system.
It's so
beyond that though it's it's it's partly rooted in the fact that people use school as daycare
yeah yeah what we were talking about earlier so i'll ask you something about college what would
you read let me ask you guys what you think if someone was supposed to learn how to you know
run a media business or be a producer in a media company, would they be better
served spending all of their time in school and going to college for it or literally just sitting
across the room from us right now every time we do a show? I'm just looking over. You didn't go
to school for this, did you? I did not. No. I came in and I sat down next to Tim and I learned
everything I know from Tim. And it's been great. Super hands-on and everything I need to know,
I learned as I needed to know. It's great. The point is obvious. You have a lot of people going to journalism
school and they're learning from people who aren't actually in the field. You look at these journalism
professors on Twitter and what are they? They're far left. They're all far left. And I'm like,
they don't even know what they're talking about half the time. Like, I mean, facts like, sure,
you can give your opinion on, you know, the morality of objective versus subjective, blah,
blah, blah, ethics and all that.
But do you even know the fact?
You didn't do any research.
So you have these professors.
They've actually called me in to give guest lectures on methodology and technology and new reporting techniques.
So why would you spend money to literally go to a room to learn from someone who isn't working in the field?
It makes no sense.
But anyway, that's a whole other conversation. Let's go back to ranting about the media.
She says, occasionally, the producers will choose to do a topic or story without regard for how they
think it will rate, but that is the exception, not the rule. Due to the simple structure of the
industry, the desire to charge more money for commercials, as well as the ratings bonuses that top tier decision makers earn, they always relapse into their old profitable
programming habits. I understand that the journalistic process is largely subjective,
and any group of individuals may justify a different set of priorities on any given day.
Therefore, it's particularly notable to me, for one, that nearly every rundown at the network
basically is the same, hour after hour.
And two, they use the subjective nature of the news to justify economically beneficial decisions.
I've even heard producers deny their role as journalists.
A very capable senior producer once said, our viewers don't really consider us the news.
They come to us for comfort.
Yikes.
MSNBC.
Whoa.
You know what I got gotta say, though?
I can't stand him.
It's true of everything, though.
I'm sure it's true
for a lot of people
who come to watch us.
Yeah.
But all I can really say is
we...
MSNBC has a boss,
and that boss tells the underlings
who tell their underlings
these stories don't fly
at this network.
We talk about
what we think is important.
We often pull up the biggest stories of the day,
and then we literally just give our feelings about it.
And often Adam and I will disagree about it.
Imagine if in this show I was like, Adam, you've got to stop doing that.
It's better for the ratings if you just say what should be said
instead of what you actually think.
Oh, I'm resisting the urge to give him two middle fingers.
But I'm not going to do it.
Because we'll get demonetized?
Will we?
Will we? Oh, no. No. That's a joke. No, I just don to do it. Nope. Because we'll get demonetized? Will I? Will we?
Oh, no.
No.
That's a joke.
No, I don't just don't want
people clipping that.
Right, right, right.
Well, no.
But look,
there's a fair point
in that we won't swear
because you'll lose money.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, to be fair,
I am probably overly critical.
I get several emails
from people asking us
not to specifically
so their kids can listen
and stuff like that.
Yeah, I like that about it.
So I'll be fair in that regard, but I do think it plays
a major role in why I won't swear. Why should I lose? You lose like 70% of revenue when you say
one swear word. Wow. Yeah, some ridiculous amount. So it absolutely does play a role in everyone.
But ultimately, though, what I think I want to talk about, I just talk about it. And the same
for what we do versus what they do. I don't think there's a perfect solution, though. I think I want to talk about, I just talk about it. And the same for what we do versus what they do.
I don't think there's a perfect solution, though.
I think any company that grows enough will fall victim to this.
I think even if I were to make a massive company, were I to maintain editorial control,
I'd be like, no, I don't like that story for this reason.
Why are we wasting time on these certain things?
And that's why when it comes to, say, Scanner, which is doing production, I tell them, you pick, you do what you want to do.
And I think that's the best I can say for us, how I'm trying to do things differently to stop this.
We've got Scanner, if you're not familiar, and they're off producing stuff. And the most I can
do is like, why would you guys do this and that? Huh? Interesting, whatever. But they have full
editorial control. I don't. And that's how it's supposed to be. Newsrooms are supposed to be editorially independent for
this reason. They're not. She says, personally, I don't think the people need to change. I think
the job itself needs to change. There's a better way to do this. I'm not so cynical to think that
we are absolutely doomed, though we're on that path. Well, I disagree. I think the media industry
is doomed. If that's what she means. I know we can find a cure. If we can figure out how to send a man to the moon,
if Alex Trebek can defy the odds with stage four pancreatic cancer, and if Harry Reid can actually
overcome pancreatic cancer, he's now cancer free, then we can fix this. Not everything that is,
that is faced can be changed, but nothing that nothing can be changed until it's faced.
She says, I know James Baldwin wasn't thinking
about MSNBC when he wrote that line in 1962, but those words spoke loudly to me in the summer of
2020. Unfortunately, many of the same ailments are still at stake today. Now, maybe we can't
really change the inherently broken structure of broadcast news, but I know for certain that
it won't change unless we actually face it in public and at least try to change it.
Now, I got to be real.
It sounds like she's actually like a lefty Democrat, liberal.
Like she, it doesn't seem to be a fan of Trump.
She seems to be into social justice, but she knows the destruction, the damage of this
whirlpool of fake news.
You know who she reminds me of a little bit?
Who?
Is Matt Taibbi.
Yeah.
A little bit.
These liberals are waking up, man.
Yeah.
And they have voices. appreciate that yeah she says those pandemic and the surreal alienating lockdown
through this pandemic i've witnessed many people question their lives and what they're doing with
their time on this planet i reckon i'm one of those people looking for greater meaning and truth
as much as i love my life in new york uh in new york city and really don't want to leave i feel
fortunate to be able to return to virginia in the near term to reconnect with family, friends, and a community
of independent journalists. I'm both nervous and excited about this change. Thanks to COVID-19,
I'm learning to live with uncertainty. And so very soon, I'm going to be seeking you out,
any one of you who also may sense that the news is fundamentally flawed and is frustrated by it.
This effort will start informally, but I hope to crystallize a plan for when better,
safer days are upon us. On that front, feel free to reach out anytime if you would like to discuss any of this, whether in agreement or not, more than ever. I'm craving full and civil discourse.
Until next time, thank you for reading. I wish you all well, Ariana.
That's so great.
You know what's interesting? Civil discourse.
That's what she's wishing for.
Yep, exactly.
Bill Maher recently ran a segment where they were wishing for civil discourse. They were complaining about the far left cancel culture.
And now we're starting to see more and more.
So I know Bill Maher has called us out, but we're starting to see more and more people are challenging the far left, the anti-discourse narrative.
And they're challenging how the media is fueling into this. bravo to her have you ever seen this what is this no so
this is the uh missouri press association it's a plaque from jw brown jr and uh he he's i mean this
is an older this has been around for a while it's called the journalist creed and i'm just gonna i'm
just gonna read some of these i can't really zoom in, but I'm going to just kind of, I'm going to read it from here.
Let me see if I can try and make it bigger. So the number one is, I believe in the profession
of journalism. I believe that the public, oh, you just blew it up.
Oh, that's way easier. Okay. I believe that the public journal is a public trust
that all connected with it are to the full measure of their
responsibility, trustees for the public,
that acceptance of a lesser service than the public service is a betrayal of that trust.
I believe that clear thinking and clear statement accuracy and fairness are fundamental to good journalism.
I believe that a journalist should write only what he holds in his heart to be true. I believe that suppression
of the news for any consideration other than the welfare of society is indefensible.
I got to stop there.
Go ahead.
The welfare of society, suppression of the news for any consideration other than the
welfare of society. I completely disagree.
Really?
Yeah. Look what they're doing now. They're going to say racism is a public health crisis. Therefore, hate speech must be suppressed.
Any news, any science, any information that would be bad for our cohesion must be suppressed.
Oh, I mean, in that same argument, you can talk about the doctors that say they've made a breakthrough in helping people get through COVID-19.
And they're suppressing.
And they're suppressing that.
And that's the exact opposite of what you just said.
So, I mean.
We have the Yale MD, PhD.
What's his name?
Harvey Risch?
Yeah.
Writing op-eds saying, you know,
we have a way to help fight this COVID pandemic.
And I'm going to be careful about the words I choose on purpose
because YouTube will ban me.
Well, that word you don't want to say,
that isn't the case anyway.
I don't know if I even want to say it, risk saying it because it's not.
It's not what it is.
It's just something that helps.
It helps.
Beat it.
Look at this.
Look how insane this is.
I know.
Well, I've learned from you and I don't want to risk your show.
I mean, it's my show as well, but I don't want to risk it.
We can say something very simple dr harvey rish of yale md phd said hydroxychloroquine can help us through this
pandemic i'll leave it at that okay that's just that's that's what he said it's a newsweek op-ed
he's an epidemiologist an epidemiologist at yale teaches that okay and we can't even say this for
the betterment of society.
It's amazing. Think about how many people died.
Right now, I saw a story. I don't know
if you have this, that Gretchen Whitmer.
What happened with that about the nursing homes?
She rejected a bill to make
it unlawful to put
patients with coronavirus into nursing
homes, which is what they did in New York City, which is
what Andrew Cuomo did. And she just rejected
it. She said it was a bad bill. dying and there's a yale phd md saying like yo
this might help us um that's all i'll say that's because that's what he said it could help us
and we could get banned we could get banned for even saying that right now so the problem that
that i see with what you're telling me about this line is that you have to hold each one of these things true to get to that point. So if that's the
case, then they wouldn't be suppressing this stuff because they know it's
not true. Read before. It's like
they got to hold it in their heart to what they know is to be true that bring the facts
so it's clear and accurate statements.
Well, it's not about what's better for society though well it's not
about what's better it's it's about the truth bringing the truth to the table and showing that
to the people because the people are the people who decide if you had somehow definitive proof
that uh you know joe biden was uh you know kang from the simpsons an alien invader okay and by
revealing it it would completely destabilize and result in chaos.
But if you don't and he wins, then aliens take over.
You've got two potentially bad scenarios.
You make a decision yourself about which one you think is the betterment of society, right?
That's an extreme example, but I would want the people to know the truth.
A better example would say like collateral murder.
We'll use that one.
A video released by WikiLeaks that shows the U.S. killing Reuters journalists.
They editorialized the title, collateral murder.
But it shows like I guess it's been a long time.
It's been like a decade.
But it's like an Apache helicopter and they see people walking.
So they just shoot them and they die.
And there's a real decision about whether or not to release that information because it could destabilize, cause massive
protests, economic destruction, harm to people's business and lives. And so there are, there
literally are journalists who are like, I can see this. We better not talk about it because the
repercussions will be devastating to the American public and it won't better anything. But there are
other people like Julian Assange who would say, no, the people have a right
to know what their government is doing in their name.
Both would think that their position is the right position.
So it's difficult.
It does come down to the subjective morality of the individual who wants to publish the
information.
And yet when we have news sources on the left side that people are now quitting because
they can't even stand that being in the the you
know working for these people but then people on the right that are are trying to push the the
truth out there getting banned from everything getting squashed getting canceled you know so
now it's it's only okay to just talk about this left stuff which we're finding out people don't
even want to do that anymore they realize that it's a cancer to society. So it's not for the benefit of anyone.
So they've decided on their own without
the rest of the people discussing it. They're just making these decisions
on their own with all the power behind them. That's not okay with me.
I would much rather let everyone know that Biden's an alien.
If you knew he was.
If I had the proof, oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'd blast it everywhere.
I would.
I mean, I certainly have my limits, but I lean towards complete transparency.
The challenge is when you recognize we're not the only country on this planet.
And one of the things I've learned from a lot of these hard transparency activists
is they act as though the U.S. the only country they really it's a good point it's interesting when you see that
like these far leftists their ideology only exists under the presumption of of these people that
they're white supremacists yeah like so you know they talk about whiteness and all of these things
but the perspective of the intersectional left is the perspective of a white supremacist. In America.
Right.
And exactly.
They view this country as being the only country.
And the same is true for a lot of the anti-war people.
Their narrative of America, the evil empire, is operating under the assumption that we're
the only country on the planet.
That's a good point.
And it ignores all the atrocities of China.
I mean, look at Greta Thunberg.
Yeah.
Her whole narrative about it's so America-centric. It's insane. Well, not just China. I mean, look at Greta Thunberg. Her whole narrative about it's so America-centric.
It's insane. Well, not just China. I mean, in Africa, there's slaves being traded right now
in multiple countries. And China, I mean, Nike straight up can't prove that they don't use slave
labor to make their shoes. I see the Nike on every NBA when they're standing up for Black Lives
Matter. But then, of course, those same uniforms that they're wearing are probably made from
slaves in china it's like that that that's crazy to me they're they're just blind to it they're
like nope we're so virtuous because you know we're wearing this shirt now i had a friend who
i think i've told this before what you know argue with me how they were fighting for the betterment
of the world and I said no
you're fighting for the
betterment of yourself yep
absolutely and they were
like that's not true I'm
hoping to make the world a
better place and I was like
you're using using a laptop
that was built in Foxconn
laboratories right exactly
people are basically crammed
in tiny boxes work 16 hour
days and are committing mass
suicide because they're
slaves yep I was like if you
really care about the world
you wouldn't be giving your
resources to that and that I think was a, if you really care about the world, you wouldn't be giving your resources to that.
And that, I think, was a hard wake-up call.
And the response was?
What?
But I'm more effective with this.
Of course you are.
Of course you are.
That's great that you use slave labor.
You're more effective at furthering yourself with that.
Yep.
Thinking you're doing good.
I remember seeing this documentary
where a bunch of activists went to the CEO of Shell of shell corporation okay and they're like we're yelling either at his house
and he came out and sat down with him and talked to him and they were like your company's doing
all these bad things and he's like yeah i know and they're like we'll stop it he's like that's
what i'm doing and they're like you are he's like yeah yeah i'm putting all this stuff in place to
try and make the company do better and they're like oh so but the problem is the machine keeps on
turning because the machine's requirements yes exactly it's it's not so easy to just think
there's a magic bullet it's like it reminds me of wonder woman how she thinks if you just kill
aries the war stops yeah and chris pine or whatever his name is like no people go to war man
people are bad people are good there's always going to be bad people in the world, period. So this is what bothers me is that you have so many people that are just not smart.
And they think they are.
And it's really, really bad.
I'll tell you, there's a really simple thing, a really simple way to put it.
I don't think I'm always right.
I don't think I have all the answers.
And I'm pretty sure I get a bunch of things wrong.
And I'm pretty sure that I'm not seeing the picture first complete.
I'm not seeing the full view of what's happening in politics.
I'm only seeing what I can see.
But I'll tell you what,
I can recognize when you have someone like Greta Thunberg
come out and say,
oh, I actually don't have the audio turned on for that anyway.
Oh, no.
When she comes out and complains about the U.S.
and Western carbon emissions.
How dare you?
There you go.
There you go.
And ignores China.
Yeah, exactly.
Because it's a narrative.
It's a media narrative.
It has nothing to do with actually making the world a better place.
And she's not smart enough.
And I don't mean this to disrespect her.
She's a kid.
And she doesn't know how the world works.
So she saw a commercial about a starving polar bear, probably,
and then goes outside saying, this is bad.
And everyone's like, oh, and they pat her on the head.
They fly around the world because it fits their political agenda,
and she has no idea what she's talking about.
She doesn't even write her own speeches, though.
That's the problem.
She's being pushed forward by all these activists that are trying to push this narrative
that the Western civilization is who's destroying the world.
But it's like, no, we're actually on the forefront of showing new environmental protections
and curbing back everything.
We have Tesla.
I know.
And we have amazing solar roofs, man.
I mean, they're really expensive, but it's cool stuff.
Yeah.
And the fact that she doesn't talk about China at all discredits everything she says, as
far as I'm concerned, because they're the worst as far as polluting this planet.
There's only one thing she says.
How dare you?
Because everything else is written by somebody else.
That's true.
She doesn't have any real opinions.
It's like, imagine if you took a kid.
It's almost like the allegory of the cave.
You know what this is?
No, I'm not.
You know what I'm talking about.
Socrates' cave?
Yeah.
No, I won't break it down for you
because I don't fully grasp it.
The general idea is that
if people were sitting in a cave and there was a fire behind them and there were shadows and they were chained there and that's the only thing they've ever seen, to them that's what the world is.
Okay.
But then outside the cave is this big, you know, other world and all these things they never experienced and never even realized existed.
So the cave is America.
That's all they know.
It's all, everything's here. Everyone here is, you know, supremacists. And it's like you have no idea the type of people that are not living here. If the literally just a bunch of white slave owners trying to protect their wealth.
And it's like, you have no
idea because you didn't read a book, dude.
You didn't read anything. Yeah, exactly.
It's about beating the monarchy and letting
the people rule instead of being told
what to do. By divine providence.
Yeah. It's like the opposite
of what they're trying to say.
It was people realizing that
you don't just to get
you you don't just get to be in charge because you said you're in charge and that's what the
american revolution was they're like hey wait a minute why is he king again yeah exactly because
god made him king we don't have a king and we're just fine now we're gonna rule ourselves and and
elect our own rulers and do this together what was amazing amazing about it... That's amazing. When you lived under these monarchies, that's the only thing you knew.
But all of a sudden, these colonies were thousands of miles away, and they were like,
we don't have a king here.
Everything's working out just fine.
Yep.
They had to have governors, and they had to have local politicians and police sheriffs,
et cetera.
And they decided, then why have the king in the first place?
It was an ideological
revolution these ideas that come so easy to us because we have you know we have history books
and we collect data didn't exist several hundred years ago yep it's amazing you know you really
got to play the game i think the game civilization should be required schooling for kids really yeah
because you when you start the game communism
feudalism capitalism none of these things exist okay that's literally what happened it wasn't
like you know some like a couple people crawled out of a cave and they were like capitalism and
they started trading money the content of money was just there was no no idea it existed in fact
there's probably a whole bunch of civic ideas, methodologies for running
countries that we don't know about right now and we will develop in 100 years. They're going to be
like the the Gerbo department and they're going to be like, oh, go down to the Gerbo department
to pick up the resources you need. And they're going to be like, man, could you imagine before
there was a Gerbo department? Yeah. And right now we're like, I don't even know what that is. I just
made up a word. But there could literally be something that in the future is totally normal to them i
can't wait for the gerbo department i know it's gonna be fantastic that's gonna take care of all
of your problems yeah every every every little thing it's got a cure for it that anxiety mental
illness just take this little pill it's red and it goes down smooth you you walk in and you press
a button a little arm comes out
and drops the little pill in your hand
and then you eat it
and then all of your troubles go away.
Yep.
Yep.
So anyway, the point is
people don't realize that ideas and inventions
are very, very similar.
Basically the same thing.
Yeah.
It's like it's one thing to realize,
hey, we invented the light bulb at some point.
Then we invented the light-emitting diode. Then we invented the light emitting diode.
And now we have crazy lights all over the place that can change colors and be voice
activated.
And they also don't realize that capitalism, the concepts of it was literally like formulated
by someone thinking and being like, hmm, interesting.
Here are some interesting ideas.
The same is true for communism.
These things didn't exist at a certain point.
Now they exist.
These ideas exist. And now people have them and take true for communism. These things didn't exist at a certain point. Now they exist. These ideas exist.
And now people have them and take them for granted.
And because of this, they're not smart enough to recognize, like, the importance of the
Revolutionary War.
Anyway, the point is why I brought all this up.
Imagine if you took a kid who only ever lived in a white room and the only problem they
ever had was that if they ate too many of the grapes that were given
to them they would get sprayed with water to them they would be like arguing with other kids being
like how can we change this system it is so bad when we get sprayed by water for having too many
grapes i should have more grapes then you put them out into the real world they go to the un
we propose no more hosings for too many grapes. And people are going to be like clapping.
And then people who actually know what's going on are like, what are they talking?
It's insane.
You can have as many grapes as you want in the real world.
Right.
You just got to go buy them.
Go buy some grapes or grow some grapes.
This is the example of the reason I hear something as absurd as like someone going to the UN
saying, stop hosing me if I eat too many grapes.
It's because it sounds insane.
Yeah.
This is what it's like with Greta Thunberg going to
this UN meeting or whatever and saying
how dare you
when you're like
why are we listening to a child who has no idea other
countries exist and it's not like she's
an economist she doesn't understand
oh that's my favorite part about it
the major wheels of society
and how many different
facets of everything go in to
everything to give us everything that we have this is crazy this is the danger of
the far left just shut it all down Tim just stop you know these factories and
it's like okay you do you understand the implications of that of just shutting
down fossil fuels right now because we cannot. We could, yeah. Oh, but I'm sure millions of people will die.
Exactly.
Millions of people will die.
That's the danger of the far left, exactly that.
Yep.
That they're going around saying, why can't we just print more money?
And you're like, dude, read a book.
Like, you're going to kill people.
No, I'm not.
You are.
You know what, man?
It's really, really difficult.
With all due respect to our great
founding fathers the one thing they couldn't predict was the scale of of human expansion
true and and government you know you know you know another thing another thing people don't realize
before the era of instant communications the majority of people's lives were spent doing
day-to-day nothingness probably Probably tending to gardens, honestly.
Tending to gardens, farming, doing regular work. And it was like every other month they'd be like, whoa, I can't believe that just happened
in England.
Write a note.
Three months later, the response would get there, which meant there were months of nothing
going on.
Whereas today with instant communication, we know right away when something happens.
So our lives are the
opposite of boring they're they're tense and anxiety inducing and all around nuts that we
have this level of communication you know i think back to you know i was reading about the civil war
the revolutionary war and the gap in communication and yeah you you would end up with like you know
a military operation the revolutionary war where they're sitting around for like a week.
And we're thinking of everything being action packed.
We can get from New York to D.C. in a couple hours.
To them, it was like weeks or longer because everyone's got to eat.
They got to stop.
Now we put them all on a train.
Boom, you're there in a couple hours.
Set up camp.
Yeah.
Breakdown camp.
And wait for instructions even.
Yeah, good point.
Where were they getting their food from?
Yeah.
And I was reading about it and I'm like, you know what?
Outside of the conflict stuff, it was simpler times.
It really was.
And I can understand why people would romanticize the past in that regard.
That you'd wake up one day, and you'd be like, I got to go tend to the crop.
You'd go do your thing, and then you'd sit back, and you'd hear the crickets.
You'd see the lightning bugs and stuff.
Smoke your pipe.
Smoke your pipe, and that was it.
And it was like that for a month. And finally you know your communication came in you're like
oh so that's what's happening on the war front and you felt your response then go back to doing
your day-to-day thing it was really really simple with politics being few and far between
but now that we have we've rapid you know rapid transit rapid communications communications. It's like we are truly becoming a hive mind, you know, for better or for worse.
And we're learning how to be that because it's very rocky right now.
But you can see that we are all becoming so connected and it's going to be rocky for a little while longer until we truly understand, you know, what the implications of everyone else being so connected really does.
You know what intersectionalism is?
It's the Borg.
It's an arm of the Borg.
What I mean is right now with rapid communications, we've seen a rapid polarization.
So you have, you know, the left and the right.
The far right's been totally purged,
and even right wing is being decimated by censorship.
So you have a centrist to moderate right faction,
and then you have, I mean, let's be real.
If you took a year 2005 Christian conservative
and had them tweet what they believed,
they would be banned in two
seconds. Yeah, tweeting like they'd be opposed to gay marriage and stuff like this, let alone
trans rights issues. Now you have whatever the right is being absolutely supportive and
libertarian on a ton of these issues. So you have a far left and then you have basically liberty,
libertarianism, liberalism, and we're and you and you know conservatism kind of overlapping around
a general concept of free expression free thought and i think over overwhelmingly the thing that
unites this faction is liberty you have liberty versus the cult if the cult wins and everyone
else gets banned then that becomes the over you know the it becomes the dominant culture and that's
what fusion was predicting yes wrongly so because a dominant culture and that's what fusion was
predicting yes wrongly so because i don't believe that's going to be the case i don't think they
were wrong because of where we're at today but that they were saying everyone is going to be
like this and that is not going to happen in like 10 more years if biden wins yep yep and so that's
that's the big fight is because the way the communications technology is uniting the world culturally
and the speed at which information and travel technology and transport can get us places,
we're homogenizing this planet very, very quickly.
True.
I went to the Bahamas.
Okay.
And you know what I saw once I got off that boat at NASA?
Starbucks? Yeah. Seriously. I thought you were going to say. Starbucks, Gucci, Hard Rock Cafe. okay and you know what i saw once i got off that boat at nasa starbucks yeah seriously starbucks gucci hard rock cafe yeah and so i'm on this cruise and i'm
like man it's gonna be so exciting to go to this you know i've never been here before i'm sure
there's gonna be like unique tourist places it's like being in times square and i was like i've
been to nasa that you can you can go to the south side of the island and it's a little bit more you know i'm just saying like rural unsurprisingly you go to like
i go to it's funny i'm in egypt right okay it's the revolution there's people in tyria square
they're all screaming ah yeah right and i look over my left and there's mcdonald's the guy eating
a cheeseburger and i'm like i'm in egypt i can just walk into a mcdonald's and it's like that
we're everywhere yep the culture is homogenizing.
What we need to make sure is that the culture that ends up, you know, the cultural ideas
that persist and survive are ones of individual liberty.
Because if we end up with this massive system of Benveni or else religious doctrine, and
we have a fundamentalist global society, it will be a nightmare for everybody and it will
fall apart. And more importantly, it will be a nightmare for everybody and it will fall apart
and more importantly it will completely collapse on itself yep authoritarianism fails almost every
single time and they say that communism has failed every time it's been tried it's like
yes that's authoritarianism well tim it's not real communism yeah yes it is, it is. Yes, it is. When you see these
people, like Greta Thunberg
saying, we need to shut down
all fossil fuels, not by
2030 or 2025, but now
it's like, so you want millions to die?
No, of course not. But they would
if we did what you asked for.
No.
Yes. Has anyone actually said that
to her? Of course not. Has anyone anyone said to her you realize china is pumping
out like massive amounts of carbon emissions way worse than the u.s yeah to produce everything for
everyone most people most people in america agree with you so we don't need you preaching to us
how about you go talk about china yeah you won't oh what's the point it's political narrative it's
optics it's it's insane well i'll tell you what
man i got bad news for you here it is humanity likely faces rapid catastrophic collapse study
warns but you know what i'm not going to read this article you know why i don't want to read
it either we're not going to because we've got something better to talk about hope. Thank goodness. A new hope. Elon Musk. I got a crush on him.
I love it. I
love scientists. I love astronauts. I love space. And he
is like living the American dream. He came here and is making
major waves on the space front.
And it's amazing. We need that. I'm so psyched to have him in this
country doing what he's doing, that Donald Trump brought the Artemis program into effect. We're
going to go to the moon, potentially in the next three years, four years. It's like, we're going
to go to the moon. We're planning on going to Mars. This is exciting. This is such an exciting time for human
life. It's awesome.
There's a reason why I started this segment
with a story saying
we're facing catastrophic disaster.
Because there is a
real reason that we need
the Artemis Project. Why we
need people like Elon Musk. And it's
because if we are to survive, we need to look
to the stars. We need to expand. And even outside of this idea of colonizing other planets or expanding space
technology and development we we this technology we develop for space travel we use here on earth
yep which brings me to this story oh yeah i i highlight this is like the the silliest part of
of like what i want to talk about with this, what the SpaceX,
the whole dragon capsule working and what it means for America.
But go ahead.
No, no, no.
Go ahead.
This is hilarious, though.
A boat flying a Trump flag approached SpaceX's spaceship after the astronauts landed.
NASA promised to do a better job next time.
I think they did a great job.
I think it's great. I think it's great.
I think it's hilarious.
It's perfect.
Listen, this guy with the flag who showed up,
whether you like Trump or not,
that's hope and that's optimism.
Yeah, it is.
That's a dude rolling up to this SpaceX thing
and he's excited, he's happy.
You've got people who want to see this.
They're cheering for SpaceX.
They're having a good time.
And that's the optimism I like to see.
Yeah, definitely.
I got to tell you, man,
I have seen Trump flags and banners and stickers
placed in the craziest places.
Oh, yeah.
We talked about this.
Where we are, there's like a weird lake under a highway.
It's like not something you go into.
It's gross.
And somebody like somehow got out into the middle of it
and put the Trump flag.
Whoa, whoa.
The bear collar.
The bear collar.
I don't know if you've seen this.
We don't have it pulled up,
but there's like, you know,
one of those tracking collars on a black bear and someone
somehow stuck a Trump 2020 sticker on it and there's a $5,000
cash reward. The police are trying to figure out who put it
on there. Who cares? That's awesome.
I think it would eat you. Somebody approached a black
bear to put a Trump 2020 sticker on the collar.
I mean, I feel like they earned it.
This is not the important news.
If you want to talk about SpaceX. That under $2 million per flight is insane compared to the $30, $40 million of costs that we were paying Russia to send our astronauts into space.
So the fact that we can do it for a pittance compared to what we were spending, now we can do it from American soil.
We can do it over and over again, reusing the rockets.
And that's why it costs so cheap.
This is the first step in a very new age of
space travel and it's incredible so elon musk props to you you are you've done an amazing job
of bringing uh bob and doug back to the country that you know to earth to terra firma and it's
it's an incredible time to see that this is this stage now he's working on a spaceship that's one unit that will fly up
and fly around and come back down to Earth.
Wow.
Yeah.
I mean, he told you to your tweet,
you know, what's up?
Yeah.
What's up with the Iron Man suit, Elon?
No, I tweeted.
Go ahead.
Hey, Elon Musk,
why haven't you built an Iron Man suit yet?
Yeah.
And he said, working on Starship.
Yeah.
And I said, that is an acceptable response.
So he's doing it. They're doing tests this week about uh trying to figure out
to actually make that happen so so this ship can launch yep go into space and land back that's the
plan that seems insane to me that's well i know but but look have you watched the the falcon 9
yeah of course of course that was insane to me that was That was CGI to me until I saw it over and over and over again.
And then I was watching it live, and I'm like, I mean, this is the case.
It's landing itself.
The Dragon capsule flew itself, docked itself.
It was fully autonomous.
We need a better form of propulsion, levitation, whatever.
Like, I think it's rad that we're doing this.
Yeah.
But I'm curious if Elon Musk is doing research in other areas.
Oh, come on.
Of course he is.
I know.
You've got to think of the two companies that he's using.
SpaceX, which is what we're talking about.
And then Tesla, which is an electric-powered vehicle factory.
And then you think about the advancements of solar energy, batteries.
There's only a matter of time before they figure out some sort of new technology that gets us into space without any sort of propellant.
I got it.
Go ahead.
A really big magnet.
Well, I was thinking a big slingshot. Yeah, a really big slingshot. Or a little bit of both, actually.
Have you seen the movie Moon? No. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, maybe. Yeah.
I mean, it's kind of old. Is that with Sam Rockwell? Yeah, yeah. Awesome movie. Yeah, good movie.
But there's a magnetic slingshot, actually, and it's basically
just a mag system that shoots you out into above orbit.
Oh, dude. So you break orbit break orbit yeah like a rail gun exactly a
rail gun so that's i think that's going to be kind of the future because if we set up like a
a nice solid rail gun system i mean i think you need to get to like 200 miles so if we used
magnets to propel us and then with a little bit of a rocket assistance you know to get us the rest of the way
i don't know yeah you know i'm not a rocket scientist so i'm just saying i think it's like
the the size of a ship you need to carry all the fuel yeah especially for a landing a full vessel
that to me sounds crazy yeah but listen man politics still play a huge role in this that's
true if we if we're being warned by the likes of say greta thunberg that the earth we
have eight years left or 12 years left i don't know whatever changing 10 years 12 years now we
have a new study saying the end is nigh take a look at all the accounts on twitter ragging on
elon musk where do they fall politically probably on the left they definitely do i mean i see this
whole thing about how well elon musk praised China. And it's like, yeah, because they are
trying to push into space also. They're trying to push forward.
Their kids, the number one thing that they answered on what Chinese children,
not political, the children of China,
they haven't done anything wrong yet. They want to be scientists when they grow up.
When was that from, that study?
I don't know.
I read it a couple months ago.
It could be older.
They want to be astronauts.
Oh, even better.
I know.
It's actually more to your point.
Oh, okay, great.
They want to go to space.
Right.
And what do our kids want to do?
They want to be YouTubers.
No, no, no.
Hold on.
They want to be influencers.
They want to make duck face on Instagram and TikTok.
Okay.
That's another way of putting it. I'm not disagreeing with you right so it's like when you think about what china we got to remember
that the ccp is is not china as a whole like we gotta we gotta let go of that because the ccp is
terrible they're they are doing terrible things they're the problem they are absolutely the the
issue you know i still feel for a lot of the Chinese citizens that have no choice in this matter right now.
Think about the epic history of like China before the rise of Mao and the Communist Party.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They've been tainted by the evils of the CCP.
Yep.
That's a good point.
Communism is nasty, dude.
Yes, it is.
Nasty stuff.
And that bums me out.
It bums me out a lot.
A lot of a lot of a lot of cool storied history.
We know. And it's and storied history, you know.
And it's covered up now by communism.
Yeah.
I mean, I want to go visit China.
I want to go visit Russia.
I want to go visit everywhere.
I want to go to Egypt.
And I think there's going to be amazing people everywhere I go.
Because that's actually been the case.
And I've traveled around the world.
I've been to many, many places.
And there's awesome people everywhere. and there's not awesome people really bad people in most
places too you know including here i don't if you know elon musk apparently what did he say
like china is awesome or something yeah referencing their space programs or something like that yeah
probably because they're you know at well and you know they have a billion people that are probably buying a lot
of teslas i think like that's the future of of you know travel on this planet also i'm i'm i'm a bit
tepid you know i don't have really strong words of criticism nor do i have strong words of praise
for his you know i can criticize him for it but i can understand that there absolutely are are you
know parts of china and things that chinese people do that are awesome, that you can be happy with.
But I'm not going to say I'm happy with Elon Musk saying that, especially as wealthy as he is.
Well, I don't know the details.
I don't know exactly what he's referring to.
I'm assuming because he sells Teslas out there and that he probably makes a lot of money.
Just like, well, why isn't anyone coming down on the NBA right now?
But they're going to. We but they're gonna we are sure we are but they're gonna praise the nba when they're doing exactly it's political it's political i don't period so the reason why i say i'm a bit tepid on it is if there's something
about like the hard work of the you know the chinese people working towards space advancement
that's if that's a fine thing but i would lean negative if i knew if i knew the fuller details i don't think we should be at a point where we're praising
what china as a whole is doing because ccp runs everything they're doing well i wasn't i wasn't
i was not praising china at all yeah no neither am i so this is the title of this is elon musk
bombshell tech boss warns a complacent and entitled u.s is losing to china and that was the force of
his message he was talking about china being efficient and effective and the u.s just being
entitled and there it is it's like someone's been selling out our country for the past 20 years it's
like china it's like the media took him out of context when he went when what the idea he was
trying to convey was they're doing a really good job in these areas,
and we're losing to them.
Yep.
So saying something like, dude, the U.S. sucks,
and when it comes to space, China's awesome.
It gets better.
Oh, yeah? He goes, so somebody asked him a question,
how about China as an electric vehicle strategy leader in the world?
The tech mogul replied, China rocks, in my opinion.
The energy in China is great.
People there.
There's, like, a lot of smart, hardworking people.
So again, he is referring, of course, to people, not the party.
There it is.
Yep.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
And of course, the people who are criticizing him
are the ones who hate the fact that he's going to bring us to space.
Yep.
Dude, it really does feel...
I'm sorry, man.
I hate to go in this direction,
but there's almost a good versus evil thing going on.
That's exactly what it is. Absolutely. When you have somebody saying, I want to bring in this direction, but there's almost a good versus evil thing going on. That's exactly what it is.
Absolutely.
When you have somebody saying, I want to bring humanity to the stars, I want to help save us.
When our top scientists say, we must make it to Mars or other planets for humans to survive.
And Elon Musk is like, I'll do that.
And then you have people that do everything in their power to just hate, hate, hate, hate, and tear him down.
I will criticize the guy.
He has got dumb tweets, and he costs a lot of people money
when he tweets stupid things about Tesla stock, for sure.
There's the stupid thing he said about the scuba diver.
The guy is far from perfect,
but I'm going to give him credit on the space flight stuff.
True.
What are you going to get?
It's crazy.
Nuance doesn't exist to so many of these people,
and that's why it really does feel good versus evil.
No, no, no.
You keep saying it feels.
That is literally what it is. It's good versus evil. No, no, no. You keep saying it feels. That is literally what it is.
It's good versus evil right now.
They believe that they are doing the most virtuous work, but in the most evilest way.
Yeah.
I mean, you saw that video of that.
I don't know who he was, if he was a Trump supporter or not.
But the Infowars girl was like, let's go talk to the Trump supporters.
And they're like, hey, go ahead, set it up.
This is a viral video.
And you know what?
It could be that InfoWars is biased, but I believe this because I've seen it.
There's a black man, and she's like, let's go to the Trump supporters and tell them we're liberals, see what they say.
And all the Trump supporters are hugging the guy and shaking his hand like,
thank you for coming here.
We're really glad you're here.
This is great.
People saying like, it doesn't matter, you know, black, white, we're all in this together.
One lady like gives him a hug and a kiss on the cheek.
And he's like, wow, if I get one more of those, I'm coming in with y'all.
And they're laughing, having a good time.
And then she's like, let's go over to the protest and tell them we're Trump supporters.
And everybody knows what happened.
I don't need to, I don't even, if you haven't seen the video, I don't need to tell you well and if you haven't i mean i'll just i'll go ahead and say
they start they get swore at they are they're telling them to that they're white supremacists
like all these crazy things and and the guy's face is just like the dude's just like what just
happened did that just happen this is reality good versus evil i've i've been to enough of
these events man i've seen it i've seen i was in san i think it's san jose i evil i've i've been to enough of these events man i've seen it
i've seen i was in san i think it's san jose i think i was i'm not sure in california this mob
of angry leftists they were bernie supporters yeah they shoved an elderly couple to the ground
ripped the trump hat off their head and set it on fire and they're like it's like an old out of
slightly overweight out of shape elderly couple knocked to the ground i'm like what is happening these people are nuts yep and guess what happened because when i was at fusion at the time
what happened when i said these were bernie supporters oh man they started getting angry
how do you know that and i was like they were wearing bernie shirts like well how do you know
they weren't faking it i was like one guy was yelling bernie one guy had a flag i was like
what do you want me to say man these? These weren't Hillary supporters running around doing this.
It was Bernie Sanders supporters.
And they were like, you're lying.
Tim Pool's lying.
Look at what they do to Andy Ngo.
Andy Ngo, he doesn't, they say he doxes people.
He literally publishes the same information
as all the news outlets.
He just puts it on Twitter.
So they target him, they harass him.
They try and come after him.
So anyway, I want to keep it back to the science stuff.
The reason I bring this up is we need this.
We desperately need this.
Yes, we do.
We need technological advancement to better the lives of the poor.
They say we need universal health care.
Fantastic.
You know the best way to go about getting there?
New medical technologies.
Reducing the cost of treatments.
Reducing the cost.
And you can't do these things completely with policy. Trump just did an executive order to
reduce the cost because yes, there's exploitation. I hate it. EpiPens, they shouldn't cost that much
money. That's nuts. Yeah, it's insane. So Trump is like, I'm going to sign some stuff. You can
do that. But guess what? You know what else you could do? New ways of producing treatments,
new treatments
new technologies that will reduce the cost for everything and mass production well it's not just
that we even need to do all this with science we have to create a way that it is exciting for
children you know make heroes out of astronauts and scientists and doctors and you know these
these people that are gonna are the ones that are actually paving the way and doctors and, you know, these, these people that are going to,
are the ones that are actually paving the way to a future that, you know,
everyone who doesn't want to live with wealth, you know, with wealth and,
you know, living comfortably in your life, you know?
So we have to understand, we have to understand the kids need to glorify,
you know, going into space, being excited about figuring out how to figure out new rocket propulsion, ways that we're going to get there.
Instead of them going, I want to be an influencer.
I want to be famous.
I just want people to love me.
It's like that's not going to get us to – it's not.
You know what I mean?
And then that's the key.
So not only do we need all these programs that are great. Like, sure, it's not you know what i mean and then that's the key so not only do we need all these
programs that are great like sure it's getting us there but if we don't have like the backing of the
new generations that are excited about it that want that have a passion in it then it's not
going to go anywhere this is this is this is the this is the fear i have is that we've been on a
track towards like we've been on the back end of the bell curve for quite some time america had its time it's it's lasted longer than the average empire whatever
you want to call it and now we have new generations of young people who aren't aspiring to be legends
to be heroes to be astronauts right to be explorers and pioneers they just want people to look at
their face yep i don't think it's the end. I think we've recognized this problem.
And if we don't correct, like our plane's going down, we can pull up and we can reach new heights with that dip.
As we go down, we can go boom and shoot even higher.
Like if you ever played Mario, you know, when you're flying with Mario, you got to go down and then up and you go even higher.
That's what we're doing.
So now that we recognize the problem problem we need to inspire young people and that's one thing that elon musk does for all his faults by all means criticize the guy launching that hot you
know that hot rod red convertible tesla into space the dude sitting in the driver's seat that's
that's nothing compared to watching him launch two actual people into space i disagree okay i
understand what you're saying though to an adult you look at that and
you're like wow man that's amazing and the cool technology but the when you look at kids who
don't understand because they're born with it yeah they they see this cool convertible and it looks
like a rock star i see what you're saying yeah i think look you know so so tesla uh i'm sorry uh
elon needed some kind of payload to prove they could launch into space.
He chose the Tesla.
And that created this pop culture moment.
Starman.
Yep.
It created a historical moment, a pop culture moment.
It caught the attention of people.
Yep.
There's a lot of people who don't care that he launched these dudes into space at a ridiculously low cost with new tech and and reuse the rockets even and brought
them back yep so flat screen controls yeah it's cool stuff just big three big screens it's like
if you look at it's like i'm looking into the future yeah that's the future wait no no that's
now but check it out kids so you know kids who are born today have not lived without a touch
screen phone you're right you know if you were born after 2007, they've always existed.
That's a good point.
I remember the phone would ring, and me, my brother, my sister would run to try and answer it first.
Yeah.
It was a phone mounted on the wall.
With the cord?
With the cord and everything.
And it would get tangled.
Oh, yeah.
It's like, oh, back in my day, we only had one phone on the wall.
And guess what?
I'd call my friend's house, and I'd be like, is Jason home?
And his mom would be like, no, I don't know where he is and i go guess i'm not hanging
out with jason today yep maybe i'll run into him at the park yeah if i get lucky and you go around
looking for your friends might be and then you finally find out like it's like you went on a
quest every day yeah it's another thing that kids are losing too because i would it was almost like
carmen san diego's like i go to one house last i him, he was at this house. I go there. Actually,
they went to,
you know,
seven 11.
You finally find them.
You're like,
I did it.
Solve the mystery of where my friends are.
Anyway,
the point is,
I think a lot of kids are born and they see the touchscreen rocket,
you know,
screens and everything.
And they're like,
I have one of those.
Yeah.
But then they see a convertible and they're like,
whoa,
space convertible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like a weird,
unique thing.
Yeah.
And it looks cool well
and and the fact that you know you you your prize at the end of that quest was hanging out with your
actual friends in real life whereas nowadays you just facetime somebody hey cool all right all
right i'll talk to you later i gotta do this youtube video i can't believe that we haven't
regulated social media yet i can't believe it either it's coming i think it's coming soon the first thing i would
actually recommend doing is section 230 reform absolutely immediately followed by a regulation
that removes the counters from social media websites like likes likes shares followers
friends etc that counter is the manipulation.
That's a good point.
It is.
And Twitter knows it.
I'll just call this my opinions and assumptions based on conversations and data to avoid legal issues.
With certain people that actually may or may not run Twitter.
Can I say that?
Not in this context.
Okay, never mind.
I forget I said anything.
I've talked to some people who have insider knowledge,
and the general consensus is Twitter knows that what drives engagement,
what makes people use the platform and makes them worth money,
is that count.
How many retweets do I get?
How many likes?
How many followers?
How many followers do I have?
It's a number.
It's a game to people.
It's almost like it's people earning points.
And so they've gamified
hate twitter is a is a rage system where people hate each other and they and they and it generates
as much rage as possible and the more rage you generate the more points you get and it satisfies
people in their minds they're addicted to it yeah get rid of those numbers all this goes away no one
will know how many responses they're getting. There'll be no ratioing.
They'll get rid of all of it.
But they won't do it
because it's the only reason
people like their platform.
That's a good point.
So we're in trouble
in that regard,
but maybe.
We'll see how this election
plays out.
Yeah.
I hope it plays out well.
Trump 2020.
You know, man,
if I end up living in a van
in Millwoods or something
down by the river, hunting
rabbit and deer and
cooking up and farming, I'm
not going to be miserable. I'm going to enjoy it.
It's like Thanos,
you know, when he finally snaps away half the universe
and he gets to go farm and just pick
weird little fruits. There you go, man.
That can be you. How about we read
some of these super chats? Sounds good.
Matthew Hammond says, why did Tim's mother not make an appearance in the 2 plus 2 equals
5 video from today?
Well, because she makes her own math videos.
She could have set everyone straight.
What the heck?
You've seen the 2 plus 2 equals 5 thing?
It's insane.
It's literally out of 1984.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The woke people on Twitter are literally arguing.
But of course, 2 plus two can equal five. You
simply need to redefine. OK, stop. You're right there. Redefine. Shut up. Yes. Thank you.
Jeremy says you're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality.
Wrong is wrong. No matter who does it, who does or says it. Malcolm X. I agree. Call out people
who need to be called out no matter whose side they're on.
Georgie says, hello, guys.
A question for each one of you.
Tim, what are the chances to vote Trump?
I would say for me, very high, pending some weird change, very high.
But it could be a third party.
It's definitely not gonna be Democrats at this point.
Skateboard Jesus.
When was the moment you decided to vote for trump when was it uh
well i think it was two months ago i three months ago end of april yeah end of april maybe
yeah just uh i started the show in end of january or was it end of january end of january was like
january 27th i think so sitting here with you know, unless you know what you're talking about, it's very difficult to be a part of the conversation.
So I just dove into the political realm because the show wasn't supposed to be political, but it very quickly just turned into current events, which happens to be, you know, it was COVID and politics.
And basically, I just started doing all this research and finding out about the
president's policies, what he was doing, what like what they were saying he was doing. And,
you know, the whole stop making me defend Trump thing, it became more of I just was figuring out
who he was and what he was actually doing. And then the more I dug, the more policies I found.
And I was like, wow, I actually really like the things that he's doing for this country. Like,
I think he's actually doing a lot of really good things.
And then it just kind of snowballed into, you know,
because we talk about everything that's going on and the Democrats are crazy.
And I think Trump is great.
And I think he's doing a really good job.
And I just, yeah, it was, I guess, the end of April when it really kind of clicked.
I was like, you know what?
I'm voting for him. I'm going to you know what? I'm voting for him.
I'm going to make a declaration that I'm voting for him.
You know, the important thing, too, is I think it's missed is that I think Democrats have completely lost their minds.
Yeah, definitely.
I think the Republicans are as bad as they've always been.
There's a small handful of people in the Republican Party that I think do an OK job.
There's like what I think Tulsi Gabbard, she's on her way out. Most of the people who agree with Trump on pulling out of Afghanistan,
to be honest. Yeah. But Trump isn't a Republican. He's not a Republican or a Democrat. So the issue
is right now the Republicans are shutting up and getting behind Trump to a certain degree.
And so that doesn't really raise any red flags with me on for the most part. It certainly does
in certain instances like blocking, you know, Trump, you know, withdrawals. And there have been other issues
like expanding FISA surveillance stuff, stuff that I've complained about in the past, I'll
complain about right now that Republicans have done. For the most part, they aren't doing anything,
but Democrats are just off the rails unhinged. And the Democratic establishment has been taking
in the never Trump or Republican refugees. So it's like the Democrats have become the haven for the establishment political base, desperate to regain their power.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's see.
Desperate is a good word.
Absolutely.
Background lady, what do you think about politics overall?
That's you.
Me?
I am, in fact, background lady.
I'm pretty conservative.
I'm more conservative than either Tim or Adam.
I'm pretty pro-life, and I really like philosophy. i want to know what's underneath all of it so that's clearly
what i'm looking at when i look at politics are you are you going to say who you're going to vote
for uh i'm probably not going to say who i'm going to vote for just yet but i don't think i have an
option at this point you'll get fired my boss will fire me if he finds out yeah your co-workers
will complain about your your your politics yeah i know it's true because she's voting for biden you guys are both voting trump get out of here what if i vote for biden
you're okay am i disowned am i gonna am i gonna get fired no we'd have a conversation about it
i would probably lose a little bit of respect for you yeah i'm not voting for biden no way
yeah man trump trump uh he's not a republican he's just something else entirely yeah that's
that's why they don't like him but but even trump supporters have been saying this that's why they
they use the lion instead of you know what is the republican the elephant yeah he's the lion
the maga party it's different trump trump was the populist usurper he he stormed into the republican
party yeah they didn't like him and a bunch retired a bunch of republicans retired like i
want to be involved
in whatever Trump is doing.
And they try to make it seem like
they're doing it because
Trump is all evil and everything.
Oh, shut up.
They're doing it because
they're like, the jig is up.
Yeah, Trump is calling them all out
for having way too much power
and the people don't control
the government anymore
because the people got complacent
and stopped caring about politics
and that's that's a big issue tribal wedge issues dominated and that's what got people power yep
and now you have trump who's confusing a lot of people he tweeted you see this donald trump says
income disparity is a problem we got to solve what's up yeah what are they gonna say now
i'm like i'm like actually we like the rich famous people they suddenly like war really
wait what am I?
What are we arguing?
What are we arguing about?
I'd like to be in Afghanistan now.
Yeah.
He tweeted the Business Insider video about Bezos making not only Bezos, like the like
four or five people that made a crazy amount of money over COVID and all the middle class
to lower class.
Everyone else just got shafted yeah
and he's like this is an issue they shouldn't be making this much money they're not even paying
taxes you know amazon paid 1.2 percent taxes on so that's on profits when it comes to like
employment tax and stuff sure sure but on on profits across their their company but that
could just mean that they didn't really generate all that much. There's tax incentives.
He made like $15 billion in four months.
Was that profit?
I don't know.
Okay, sure.
I don't know all the details, sure.
When it comes to the narrative about Amazon and taxes,
a lot of people, there's no legal way Amazon just goes,
we're not going to pay.
No, there's a bunch of reasons why from tax incentives
tax programs rebates and they typically exclude the property taxes sales taxes you know employment
taxes and who they do pay who's been setting up all these uh these systems over the past uh whoever
knows exactly it was both democrats and republicans you're right they were both sides they were
playing a game of hot potato back and forth yep oh no it's their fault oh no it's their fault
everyone just just pretend that we're all against each other when they are all in it together this
is what bothers me it's like the progressives should just be like democrats reap what you sow
here's trump for another four years because then they'll have an opportunity for a new populist
if the democrats get crushed yeah maybe but if the opportunity for a new populist if the Democrats get crushed. Yeah, maybe. But if the Democrat establishment wins, the populist left will never get another chance.
Their only opportunity is that the populists dominate.
And right now, the right populists are holding the reins.
I don't, I, not Biden, man.
Sorry.
I'm a never, never Biden.
Yeah, never Biden.
That's why I begged.
And that's why I donated to these other Democratic candidates.
Because I was like, give me a non-establishment alternative.
They could not do it because they're stupid and insane.
But more importantly, the people that I liked, they couldn't control.
Some of them I think they can.
However, Bernie Sanders, you know, ended up selling out in my opinion.
Maximum Weeb says, finished Hamilton on Disney Plus.
Hate the company deeply, but one of the greatest pieces of entertainment about American history ever made bar none extremely well worth a watch funny,
witty, sad, bad-ass, all of it, a two hour and 40 minute glorious epic rap battle of history.
That's cool. I like it. All right, let's see what else do we got here in the old super jet?
Philip McCrary says, I think this mafia contract will have an opposite effect,
especially if it expands
to other cities. I would think business owners would not want to hire any black person in order
to resist being bullied. Backfire? I don't think so. I think the Cuban immigrant is straight up
saying that he's not going to fall for these mafia tactics and they can't pretend to be anti-racist
to make him do it. Let's see. Sullivan says,
Hey Tim, how often do you check your P.O. box?
I sent Adam some beanies. Can you have
him go check it? We check it almost
every day. Almost every day.
Yeah, we have big boxes of stuff. Oh, we gotta open some
boxes. Oh yeah.
Once we get to the new facility, we're
actually gonna do a mail show on the vlog channel
where I think,
I think if we did it once a week,
we'd have too much.
Yeah.
We'd send a ton of stuff.
If you guys want to send us stuff,
go to timcast.com slash donate.
There's a PO box at the bottom.
Make sure you address it to Timcast IRL
or any of us individually,
depending on who you want to send it to.
Yeah.
Post office already hates us.
Yep.
Samuel Braley says,
don't let Chicago fool you.
Just an hour our south there's
their small farm towns filled with people who just want to be left alone there's a huge silent
majority i hear it every day keep up the courageous work beers on me cheers i would not be surprised
if a bunch of parts of chicago turned red in november yep because there are areas of chicago
that are conservative middle class, like city property.
Almost all of my, I don't know if you know, me and Tim are both from Chicago.
Well, most of my family that are in Chicago, they are all Republicans.
So, you know, that's a lot.
I have a fairly large family in Chicago.
Hi, everybody.
That's my family.
Hi, man.
Family. All right, ma'am. Family.
All right, let's see.
Spork Witch says,
little red pill that makes all the problems go away.
So you mean Aldous Huxley's Soma?
The rate we are going,
I wouldn't be surprised if they start proposing
intentional fetal alcohol exposure
to keep the Deltas happy with the menial work ordained.
What's that short story we were talking about before?
Harrison Bergeron. Yeah. The Great Equalization great equalization the great equalization have you read that the great equalization did you
read i was distracted by the dead ufo somebody somebody sent it to me and it's basically like
smart people have things in their ears that scream random noises to disrupt their ability to think
it sounds to make sure they're equal you know and like strong people have to carry weights around
and men have to carry weights so that they're you know strained and not as strong not stronger than
women and stuff kurt bonnigan yep that's so much better excellent john doe says i disagree i think
capitalism is the basic unregulated natural state of the economy as natural as an old growth forest
and just as wild every regulation is an, but not all axes are bad.
Vines can choke a fruit tree. Well, I disagree because I think understanding the concept of a
trade medium was a revolution, an ideological revolution. People would be like, hello, good sir.
I require a loaf, you know, a bunch, a sheath of wheat. And you'd be like, but I require parchment.
Sorry, sir, I have no parchment. I'll go find some. And it would make everything harder. Once they realized, wait a minute,
what about some kind of intermediary? I'll give you this. You go find somebody. I'll take it too.
Now you had an intermediary trade medium that allowed people to rapidly advance how fast they
were trading. So it was a development. Money didn't always exist.
Not only that, but the general idea of capitalism is like interest rates and investment and stuff.
So all of these ideas were written and expanded upon. But the general idea of free trade, I believe, is true. Let's see. Jacob Wyren says,
if you traveled back in time and told a Roman slave owner about capitalism, he would laugh,
point to the slave and say, that's a and say, that's really funny that you think that they can cooperate freely when they clearly can't.
We've made huge progress since then.
Yeah, it's ideological revolution.
REO says, I'm a fairly smart guy, but I used to think I was a lot smarter.
A few years ago, I came to realize that I was just coasting and couldn't consider myself as smart as I used to.
You guys and Joe Rogan help broaden my thoughts.
Hey, appreciate it.
Very cool.
Thanks for putting us on that platform.
My goodness.
Yeah, Joe's a clever dude.
He likes to say he's a dumb guy, but he's not.
Does he say he's a dumb guy?
He does.
Really?
Yeah, he's like, I'm just some dumb comedian.
No, no, that's not true.
I mean, he's humble.
He's pointing out that he's a comedian entertainer.
But you watch his show, and you'll be like, he knows a ton of things.
He clearly reads a lot.
Yeah.
Dude's clever.
Dale Wilson says, you three rule.
I truly love your shows.
Adam, Hulk smash that button.
Tim, work on destroying the narrative.
It is the destruction of the worldwide freedom.
Think about that.
Lydia, you keep these hormones in place with reason and research.
USA. Thanks, man. Excellent. freedom think about that lydia you keep these hormones in place with reason and research usa excellent commander 232 says the journalist creed reminds me a lot of the soldier's creed
i swore in the army tim and adam have uh have lydia look up the u.s army soldier's creed and
read it out loud it really raises your spirit and i feel you guys will appreciate it i i'm i'm vaguely
familiar with this actually i want to know about it yeah you want to appreciate it. I'm vaguely familiar with this, actually. I want to know about it.
Yeah.
You want to pull it up?
Yeah.
You want to read it?
I got it right now.
I think this is it.
It says, I'm an American soldier.
I'm a warrior and a member of a team.
I serve the people of the United States and live the Army values.
So this is specifically for the Army.
I don't know if this is what he's referring to.
It says, I will always place the mission first.
I will never accept defeat.
I will never quit.
I will never leave a fallen comrade.
I am disciplined physically and mentally tough,
trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills.
I always maintain my arms, equipment, and myself.
I am an expert and I am a professional.
I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies
of the United States of America in close combat.
I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.
I am an American soldier.
I like that a lot.
That's really simple, straightforward.
Very, very good. Let's's see padraic says thank you tim your integrity is fantastic in australia our
corruption is largely center right i wish we had more honest reporters like you anyway wanted to
mention kodak camera company was given 700 750 million dollar loan to make 25 of american uh
generic pharma ingredients.
And instantly their stock jumped from like $17 to I think $60 that morning.
It was crazy.
Because they were like, you know what, man?
I dig it.
I do too.
American company being given resources to revitalize manufacturing, notably medicines.
I got to say, though, once again, this certainly does play into the idea that we're getting better prepared for war. President Trump knows what he's doing.
Yeah. Making moves. Yeah. Erstax says aerospike space engines. Cool. Andrew B. says keep up the
great work. Can you give us some more direction as to who we should also support groups to join
people donate to need to turn this country around, tired of being bullied into silence.
Well, if you follow me on Twitter at Adam Krigler, I have been researching many different politicians that are running.
Turns out a lot of them are Republicans that I end up finding and they're really good.
I always tend to retweet them and look at their policies on their website,
and I try to post those up.
So if you want to follow me, you can follow my journey
into understanding the political world more.
The most important thing anyone can do is,
if you don't know of a group, start one.
If there's no petition for you to sign, make one.
I had a friend tell me that, you know, how come none of these conservatives who are concerned
about this have done anything?
Where are the petitions?
Where are the protests?
And I'm like, they're Blue Lives Matter protests.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But they don't protest nearly as much as the left.
I was talking about, I think we were talking about this.
There was a venue that we were going to do a show at when I was putting on an event with
the guys
from Mythicist Milwaukee. And one of the venues promised us, assured us, everything would be fine.
We're not concerned about politics, protesters. We don't care about, we can easily handle security.
What they didn't expect is that within a few days, once the staff members found out,
they all threatened to quit. And so the venue was like, okay, show's over. Sorry, guys. Bye-bye.
Our staff was going to quit. We can't do anything about it. And I'm thinking to myself,
how many conservatives and moderates and even disaffected liberals would would say the same thing? I'm sorry. It's relatively few. Now, there's an advantage these people have. No families.
They're young, no kids, and they're reckless and ideal, you know, reckless ideologues.
People with families can't just do that. But that gives the left a major advantage and, you know, they're making
gains because of it. Reaper Bot says centripetal force power supply and or engine something like
a turbine generator generator using magnets that generate continuous clean energy could make them
in many different scaled options. Interesting. Yeah. Like a magnetic generator or something.
Yeah.
Jim,
the pro says ion engines are the future so far.
They are initially slow,
but their speed cap is close to light speed.
This is,
this is where they have like the plate and they fire ions in it.
And then it,
you know,
incrementally pushes it forward.
I guess it's the M drive.
Is that what it is?
Like violates the same.
I don't know what the ion engine is.
I think that's what it is. That sounds like the M drive that you're talking. Yeah. And it's like, I don't know if it's the same. I don't know what the Ion engine is. I think that's what it is.
That sounds like the M drive that you're talking about.
I don't think that's the same thing.
It's violating the, what,
second law of thermodynamics, I guess?
A closed system and the energy
is still pushing it forward.
Perilous Pancake says,
Greetings from the Chinese Special Economic Zone
of Victoria, Australia. Oh, I didn't
realize. Keep those little
green dudes dizzy. Spin the UFO.
Our first spin...
Well, Super Chat spin. I
couldn't help myself earlier.
1991 Shadowheart
says, you missed my last Super Chat.
G'day, Tim and Co. My mates and I are planning
on making our own podcast.
News, politics, jokes, etc.
We'd love to have guests on it.
Who would y'all be interested?
Cheers for the hard work.
Have a cold one on me.
Much love, guys.
Thank you.
I don't know.
I would love to go on your show.
Thank you.
Oh, yeah.
For thinking of me.
I'm sure they'd love to have you.
It'll be fun.
They're going to be like, yes, absolutely, Adam.
I guess if I had to make a recommendation,
maybe Adam Krigler. you know i hear he's a
good uh co-host yeah i think i think he'd be a great guest the best see gregory says lydia thanks
for the call out on twitter for isaac he's a great dude oh yeah mount liberty bell says here in
washington state we have a group called restore washington they say soon one in every 100 people
in the state will be a member we are rising
up interesting sounds good but what do you do do you like kick seattle out yes all you show up and
vote for the right people that's what you do what's what's this thing people have talked about
where they're like separate the the blue the blue district archipelago into its own like autonomous
governments and then give the red areas to prevent civil war or something?
I don't know.
New Idaho?
Decentralizing big cities is going to help.
The fact that people are fleeing cities for a variety of reasons will help people start meeting each other and talking to each other.
And hopefully it will start doing away with some of these more fringe ideas.
It could make things worse, however.
I think so, too.
I'd imagine the people leaving cities are more likely to lean conservative.
Well, and you think about how we talked about the war room that they had,
the never Trumpers, and how they were only lost to the Electoral College.
And if all these cities that are blue are pushing all the conservatives out that would normally vote red, you know.
The blue cities stay blue then.
That's a good point.
You know, they stay blue.
And then it makes the swing districts turn red.
That's a good point.
So they're kind of shooting themselves in the foot, I guess.
This is the important factor.
A lot of people have said, Tim, if these people leave cities and they're likely to be liberal, they'll bring liberal values.
There's a political cartoon someone made about joe rogan
and he's he's carrying a bag leaving california that's like blowing up and he's going to texas
and they're like hey leave that where you where you got it from and he's carrying like liberal
values with him oh no it was like a gas can yeah it says liberal values or some something on there
so but i think that misses the point who's the first to leave a city? New York, like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's district is 20% Republican.
That's just nowhere near enough to actually win.
Good point.
Who's going to leave first?
The Republicans.
Right.
The people who want weapons to defend themselves, are tired of this,
have individual responsibility as a core part of their personality.
They're going to leave. Then they're going to go to the suburbs, which of their personality, they're going to leave.
Then they're going to go to the suburbs, which are swing districts.
They're going to vote Republican.
I don't think, you know, AOC's constituents that are Democrat are complaining about the
city right now.
The rioters were on their side.
So they're probably like, yeah, go, go for it.
Woohoo.
Black Lives Matter.
The conservatives are going, this is nuts.
I can't take this.
They're allowing this. I'm out. We'll see. We'll see. I think there Black Lives Matter. The conservatives are going, this is nuts. I can't take this. They're allowing this?
I'm out.
We'll see.
We'll see.
I think there's a lot of factors that people are missing.
It's hard to know.
You can't predict everything, man.
But I'll tell you what you can predict.
I can predict that everybody will smash the like button.
Oh, good prediction.
I'm making a prediction that we will break 20,000 likes in the next couple of minutes
because...
If it was 30,000, this would be red right now.
Oh, man.
You guys know it.
I mean, that's kind of the thing.
I'll swap beanies.
If we hit 30,000 likes, you put the Maga beanie on?
That's it.
I mean, people have been talking about it in chat
since we went live.
I mean, that's great.
Just not enough likes.
Now we're consistently getting more likes.
Just not enough likes.
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if everybody who tuned in
shared the link right when it started,
we'd be bigger than CNN
in like a few months.
That sounds really good. Let's go
with that. But the point I'm making
is the exponential growth, right?
This is the point I'm making.
If everybody always did.
Excuse me.
Yes.
Sorry, I just wanted to,
you cut me off
and I wasn't done
telling how excited I was
to be bigger than CNN.
Right, right, right, right.
Because they suck.
I want to make sure
I have this clear
before we move on
because I don't want people
to misunderstand.
If we have 40,000 people and they all share it and each of those 40,000 brings in one
more person, we go to 80.
And then if 80,000 people share, we're at 160 and it keeps growing.
Yes.
Non-linear.
I shouldn't even say a month.
I should say theoretically if everyone shared and brought in only one person, in a week
we'd be bigger than CNN and MSNBC and Fox News.
Yep.
So hey, not everybody likes
watching us though. So there you go. So maybe
for every one person they bring in, two people
leave because, you know, I don't know, whatever.
But no, I think
I can say I'm eternally
grateful to everybody who's watched because
this show's been doing really, really well.
We've been growing and expanding and it's awesome.
And I'm glad we've been able to. It's been
absolutely fantastic. So fun. Having a lot of lot of fun you know complaining about stuff on the
internet and being hopeful space travel and all that good stuff periodically hopefully once the
election ends we wake up november 4th and it's like kovitz what what what's that song it's like
oh it's called morning from the purgent suite yeah yeah tchaikchaikovsky. Yes, there you go. That song will play.
You'll wake up on November 4th, and you'll see the window in a beam of light, and there's
Blue Jays and Cardinals, and they're singing.
And you turn on the TV, and they're not talking about Trump anymore.
It's all over.
Oh, my goodness.
The election has ended.
There's sports.
You look outside.
There's a milkman for some reason.
And you're like, nobody who gets milk delivered.
Unless you live in Chicago, and they have the Oberweiss guys.
But no, no. You'll wake up and everything's back to normal
and then we'll be talking about Sonic the Hedgehog again or something.
Oh, that sounds fun.
Movies.
Yeah, movies.
Maybe the second one will come out.
Maybe we'll end up talking about sports.
Who knows?
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