Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1079 Iran Orders DIRECT STRIKE On Israel After Assassination In Tehran w/Fenix Ammunition

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, & Libby are joined by Justin of Fenix Ammunition to discuss Iran ordering attacks against Israel in retaliation to Israeli assassination of the Hamas political leader, Trump shutti...ng down hostile journalists at a conference in Chicago, Trump saying Kamala isn't black, and Nevada Democrats making fun of the appearance of a US Veteran's appearance. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Libby @libbyemmons (X) Guest: Fenix Ammunition | fenixammo.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Last night, we got word that there was an assassination in Tehran. Iran is claiming that Israel launched an airstrike in Iranian territory, killing the leader of Hamas. In Beirut, there was an Israeli airstrike, killing another military leader. And so this looks like a direct escalation. Now Iran has ordered, according to the New York Times, a direct strike on Israel. And I'm sitting here like rolling my eyes because, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, we get it. I mean, this is it. It's going to be in increments. There's not going to be a single day where Iran just, you know, you see the Ayatollah stand up on a pedestal and say, it's World War III, baby,
Starting point is 00:00:39 let's roll. It is going to be moment by moment, step after step, until at one point we say, hey, maybe this regional conflict combined with the other regional conflicts is bringing us into or we are at a World War III scenario. Or it could just be this remains a regional conflict, but the conflict of Iran has been bubbling up for decades. Sooner or later, that powder keg is about to burst, so we'll talk about that. This is a crazy story. I don't know if we've yet gotten confirmation or a statement from Israel as to whether or not they actually assassinated this guy, the Hamas leader. So we'll see. But we do have other more fun news. Donald Trump spoke to black journalists in Chicago. And wow, this dude did not play games. He did not pander. He struck back. He was insulting when need be. Maybe not necessarily insulting, but he called them out for being hostile. He made jokes. The audience was hooting, booing, sometimes cheering. It's actually really interesting. So we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:01:36 And as a result, Trump's being roasted for saying Kamala Harris wasn't black. She was Indian for a long time. Then all of a sudden, one day she decided to be black. And this has led to another big controversy in the news cycle. We'll talk about that and a whole bunch more. Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com. Buy coffee from us because it's the best coffee you'll ever have. I promise. And I'm allowed to say that because it's an opinion. And I genuinely do think it is the best coffee you will ever have. Appalachian Nights is everybody's favorite, followed by Rise of the Birdo Jr. But Ian's Graphene Dream is the sleeper that's slowly taking over.
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Starting point is 00:03:14 We exist just to produce the best quality ammunition right to the people who the Second Amendment was written for. That's you, the American people. And we're a company that imagines what could be unburdened by what has been. Ah, yes, indeed, indeed. All right. Well, thanks for joining us. It'll be fun. We got Libby hanging out. I'm hanging out.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I'm Libby Emmons. I'm with the Postmillennial and Humanevents.com. Glad to be here. I'm glad you're both here. I'm Hannah Kluber-Mlow. I'm a writer with SCNR.com, a scanner news folder. We're at Tim Gass News, and let's get started. This is the first story from the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Iran's leader orders attack on Israel for Haniyeh killing, officials say. Iran Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei ordered retaliation after a humiliating security failure as Iran once again balances, showing strength against the risk of escalation. On top of that, we also have Israel striking Beirut, saying it's killed Hezbollah commander Fouad Shakur in response to a rocket attack. It looks like both of these attacks, assuming this one on Iran is actually from Israel, is in retaliation for there was a rocket strike in Israel, killed several children. And so, look, this is war. Now there's going to be a retaliation for the retaliation, a retaliation for the retaliation, retaliation, retaliation. You see where this goes. This is what war is. I think it's silly for us to be like they're retaliating and now Iran's going to retaliate. No, it's the next step in an ongoing
Starting point is 00:04:27 war. Iran ordering an attack on Israel should not be like a breaking headline. It should be Iran orders continuation of ongoing conflict with direct intervention or something to that effect. And sooner or later, we're going to get to the point where when there's active shooting between nations and we already had the rocket fire between Israelrael and iran we're just going to say the war continues so i suppose the big questions here are uh man israel will be dragging the united states into a massive regional conflict that i think you got the john bolton to the neocons salivating over and begging for i can't wait before donald trump is going to be able to get in and tamper down any of this stuff,
Starting point is 00:05:07 they're going to make this war happen so that he cannot. Yeah, I mean, that was kind of my theory, except in Ukraine. I figured if they thought Trump was going to win, they would try to make things so bad between Russia and Ukraine, get us so involved, and more or less drop all of that on his lap right before the election. And I guess now they have another opportunity to do that
Starting point is 00:05:30 here with Israel. You know, Israel is a small country. They're surrounded by enemies on all sides. And I'm not so sure that we really understand what we're getting ourselves involved in. I think people vastly overestimate the ability of the U.S. military industrial complex to produce the amount of munitions that would be required to defend Israel against all those countries. And it just doesn't work that way. You know, they're burning through Patriot missiles like crazy. Our production capacity is about 30 to 35 a month. And if you're going to tool up a new factory to be making, you know, double, triple that amount, that takes years. That's not something that it doesn't matter how much money you spend,
Starting point is 00:06:14 it takes time to hire the employees, build the factories, etc. And meanwhile, you know, Iran is kind of going the other direction. I really think the whole Iran trying to get a nuclear weapon is one of the biggest psyops that we've fallen for. I really think the whole Iran trying to get a nuclear weapon is one of the biggest psyops that we've fallen for. I think what they've realized is technologically, that's really unfeasible for them. What makes more sense for them to spend billions of dollars to produce one nuclear missile and fire it at Israel, which we would shoot out of the sky immediately, or they could take half that amount of money, a third of that amount of money. They could make 50,000 small capacity drones at a cost of maybe 25 to $40,000 each. And what are you going to do when they fly 10,000 drones? You know, last time they fired what,
Starting point is 00:06:57 400 drones. And we, we thought it was a great success that we shot them all out of the sky, but we spent $3 billion to take down maybe a few tens of millions of dollars worth of drones that they can manufacture by the hundreds. That we're going to need to counter drone warfare with drones. Correct, right. You're going to need a net of drones and create a drone defense system. Yeah. But you know what I'm wondering, because on my morning show, I had some people super chat about this, is what's happening,
Starting point is 00:07:30 the attack, assuming it is from Israel, because Donald Trump survived. And it's an interesting correlation. But the idea being shortly after the assassination attempt, news broke that Iran was planning an assassination of Trump. And that kind of just disappeared overnight. Like it didn't it blipped on the radar and then was gone. We looked at it and then it was gone. Yeah, because the narrative was many people believe Trump would would have if Trump were to have lost his life, then the media would have reported it was an Iranian backed attack. When the FBI came out and said they found social media for the shooter that was anti-Semitic and anti-immigration, they would have argued that it was because of Trump's support of Israel. And then Nikki Haley becomes the nominee. Whether it's Biden or Kamala or Nikki Haley,
Starting point is 00:08:06 they're all pro-war. Nikki Haley demands retaliation for Trump's life being taken. And that's how they get their cash-as-belly for war with Iran. That didn't happen. So maybe that was never going to happen. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:08:18 And now we have Israel striking Iranian territory, Iran retaliating. How much longer until Joe Biden bumps into a shelf and goes, war, and then accidentally hits the nuclear button and declares war on Iran? Well, if Joe Biden stays in office, I mean, he doesn't have anything on his schedule. He doesn't seem to be doing anything at all. He was asked, I think they were asked in the briefing room today if he's still governing. And they were like, oh, yeah, for sure. He's definitely still governing. He's still in charge.
Starting point is 00:08:48 He's sleeping. Yeah, he's sleeping. He's on cold meds, whatever it is. He's definitely not playing golf. He's, what, eating ice cream and sniffing little kids? I don't know. Actually, there was a video recently of him sniffing a kid. I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:09:00 It was from like a couple weeks ago or something. And one of his senior advisors just left to go join the Kamala Harris campaign. I mean, you're probably going to start seeing this mass defection. We're going to see a lot more of that. Which is fascinating because I think part of it is that they want Kamala Harris to be front and center. And so not only do they not want Joe Biden talking publicly because that has never helped them, but now they don't want anything to distract from her. So they are even more incentivized to keep him sort of on the couch.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I think they see the next three months as a preview of the Kamala Harris presidency. So they're going to try to put her on the pedestal, make her appear to be the one in charge without actually saying it. And that way they can just slide, you know, right through the election. They want her to look as presidential as possible so that it just looks like a fait accompli. And you see this with the messaging, especially on social media, like the Biden account will tweet out something like we accomplished this. Her account will immediately come in and say, yes, Joe Biden and I, me, the head of the Biden-Harris campaign or whatever. Which is why I think, yeah, I think it's really important to if she wants to take on all his responsibilities now, including just drop into the scheduled debates and things like that, I think it's time to really hold her accountable for Biden's record.
Starting point is 00:10:11 But what's this this narrative that the Kamala campaign is pushing where it's like she she comes out and she's like, I'm going to add more border guards. But Donald Trump opposes border guards. It's like her whole point is basically like, I may be the vice president, but I'm not going to do anything about anything right now. And Trump even says is he's like, I don't understand. Like, she's the vice president. You could do it now. She could do it now.
Starting point is 00:10:34 What is she campaigning on? Yeah. Just do the thing. Yeah. She's like, Trump opposes this. When? Four years ago? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:10:41 And she'll talk about more recent border legislation that she'll be like, well, it was going to get passed, but then Trump directed all of his cronies to be against it that she'll be like, well, it was going to get passed, but then Trump directed all of his cronies to be against it. It's like, yeah, it's because it was a bad bill. Like, no one liked this bill. It's just a way for them to put money into creating legalized immigration. Whether the bill is good or bad is immaterial, right?
Starting point is 00:10:58 You can lie. You can claim one thing, you can claim another. The point is, she's in office, he's not. Well, Trump told his people to block it. Wait, wait, wait, you're the vice president. What are you going to do? Nothing's going to change. You get elected. What's different? You can't go to Joe Biden right now and say, hey, do thing. Or is the argument that when you get elected, all of a sudden Trump's going to stop trying to meddle in politics? What's the argument? Meanwhile, the other thing, too, is she has the exact same staff as Biden, as Hannah Clare just pointed out she's getting his
Starting point is 00:11:25 you know White House staffers now so if they weren't capable of getting any of this stuff done for the past three and a half years why would they be able to get it done over the next four and a lot of Biden staff also are veterans of the Obama administration right so it's the continuation fool Kamala is just a continuation it's the same thing as Obamacare you got to pass the bill to see what's in it so they don't. So they don't want to do it now because that would ruin things prior to the election. And they know that this bill, all it's going to do is, as I said, they're going to put a bunch of money into hiring border agents to process immigrant applications. They're not going to put any money into actually stopping the flow of people across the border. They're just going to say, well, hey, look, illegal immigration has dropped by 50%.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah, that's because you've got a guy filling out paperwork and just making them all legalized. You're rolling out a second C-1 app to make it easier for people to cross the border. It appears that it's less, but now we have the same number of people. Back to the story, though. The question I have for you guys is, do we have war with Iran before November? Open open war, U.S. involvement. I think I think it's more likely that we'll have open involvement in Ukraine personally before. Yeah, I think that one's going far worse, but it'll depend. It really depends on what Iran does in response to this. If they do the same thing that they did last time at a larger scale,
Starting point is 00:12:47 then, yeah, if they actually manage to land some hits in Tel Aviv or some other large city, I think it could go from zero to 100 in a week. It's tough because who actually wants to engage in a conflict to that degree? Iran certainly doesn't. No. Does Israel? I mean, the United States does. And so that's what Iran's concern is.
Starting point is 00:13:09 If they strike on Israel, the U.S. immediately intervenes. And then I take a look at their building. You know, the U.S. tried building that beachhead, which failed. Yeah. Which is here. I mean, $230 million. That Gaza Pier thing? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Total fear. Yep. But I think the point of that is the U.S. has the Mediterranean route for bringing shipments into Israel, which they can use as a staging ground for a war in the region. Not to mention Iraq and Afghanistan, depending on what access we still have there. Yeah. Like I said, it'll really depend on what Iran decides to do in response. I can't imagine that they're going to do nothing. But do they really want to escalate it to the point where they're in a direct conflict? I don't
Starting point is 00:13:48 know. But it's also Lebanon too. Yeah, it's also Lebanon. You know, it's tough. Those countries, you'd think that all of them would band together against Israel, but there's a lot of, you know, internal conflict between those countries, a lot of religious differences. You have the Shiites, you have the Sunnis. So it's not easy to say that they'll all just get together and do it. But at some point, you know, even the best, even the worst of enemies can become friends for the purposes of defeating what they think is the greater enemy. And, you know, Israel is a tiny country. I mean, it's only 40 miles across in some places. So I think the big risk we're facing is Iran's retaliation could come in the form of subterfuge cyber attacks.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And so there could be economic damage that is more difficult for us to understand. It is entirely likely that there's been industrial accidents that have actually been cyber attacks, and we wouldn't know. They're not going to tell us. Because if the U.S. government came out and said, remember that refinery that blew up?
Starting point is 00:14:40 That was actually Iran targeting us through cyber warfare. They'd have to admit that we don't have the security in the defense and that U.S. actions led to a retaliation for some reason. So likely they'll just ignore it. Like the American citizens are going to face some kind of detriment from Iran who will try to cause problems for us. They probably are doing it right now anyway. And then we don't even know what's going on because the government doesn't want to admit its failures. Yeah. And I think most people vastly overestimate the amount of cybersecurity that your average industrial facility has. I worked for an insurance company for 10 years and they spent tens of millions of dollars on cybersecurity because they had personally identifiable
Starting point is 00:15:18 information, things like that. But your average manufacturing facility, the problem is a lot of the machinery and equipment that we use, those companies are pushing all of us to connect those things to the internet so that they can do remote troubleshooting and help solve problems you can track manufacturing data all that kind of thing but you know the firewalls that exist for programmable logic controllers is very rudimentary. That to me, that worries me more than even an attack, say on the electrical grid. I mean, that worries me as well, but I think we're spending a lot more money trying to shore up security in that area. But all of the individual manufacturers making everything we need for every, you know, appliances, computers, cars, weapons, all that stuff. Most of these companies have absolutely no idea that they're even vulnerable to things
Starting point is 00:16:12 like that. Do you think that Americans or like American policymakers understanding of national security has pivoted with the internet age? Do they think that the most likely attack is a physical, you know, attack from a different country? Or do they think that the most likely attack is a physical, you know, attack from a different country? Or do they realize that our online connection makes us vulnerable, too? I think the military knows it. You know, their stuff's very robust. They spend a lot of money trying to keep their computers from being able to be hacked, their comm systems, things like that. But, again, how do you, I won't say force, because I certainly wouldn't want them
Starting point is 00:16:45 to force that upon industrial manufacturers, but most people don't even really understand that that's a risk. And so it kind of falls on the companies who are building the logic controllers and the machinery and the equipment. And I think they're just far behind the times. I don't think that they perceive that as i think if you went to your average machinery manufacturing company and said what are you guys doing to make sure that you know my bullet assembly machine is unhackable they would they would just look at you with a blank stare um because it's just not really on their radar you know they're worried about um production you know, workflow. They're
Starting point is 00:17:26 trying to make the machines run faster, have less errors in your products, things like that. But I don't really think that they have any idea that that's even a risk. Let's let's jump to some domestic politics with this story from the Postmillennial. The big domestic news is that Trump spoke at a black journalist conference and the Post Millennial says he effortlessly handles hostile questions at black journalist conference in Chicago. I've only seen clips. Libby wrote this one up. But the clips that I've seen from Donald Trump, it is amazing. It's amazing. He does not. He doesn't play games. He doesn't pander. And I think he knew this is what the Libertarian Convention should have been him going up there and when he gets a hostile question he's hostile right back he makes jokes he laughs he gives real answers and i think
Starting point is 00:18:12 people are going to respect it i think trump entered this it's a speaking at the national association of black journalists he entered this knowing that they're going to ask hostile questions and insult him and he's going to push back because he might actually win 5, 10, 20 percent by being real and not pandering because there are people who don't want to be pandered to. So actually, you wrote it. Why don't you just tell us what's going on? Yeah. So this was actually, as I said, this was sort of amazing.
Starting point is 00:18:38 He got up there. He had this interview with three black journalists, including Harris Faulkner from Fox, who he's spoken to a lot. And so they had the most comfy exchange, I will say. But he also handled the more divisive questions. He was asked specifically about what are black jobs because he was talking about immigration and saying, you know, illegal immigrants are coming in. They're taking Hispanic jobs. They're taking black jobs. They're taking black jobs. What are black jobs?
Starting point is 00:19:06 I take issue with this because at first they're offended. Like, what's a DEI hire? What's diversity? Exactly. And so it's like when when Trump is asked, he was asked about he referred to black journalists as animals and things like this. And they're saying, like, how dare you insult a person who happens to be black? Then when he says black jobs, like, what is that supposed to mean?
Starting point is 00:19:26 What's a no, no, no, no. You can't quantify everything as categorically, you know, wrong or you can't say your statements pertaining to black are bad. And then when Trump says, OK, black jobs, I go, oh, now we're offended again. You can't be offended at everything. Yeah, they were if they're offended. You know, if you do, he's offended. They're offended. And if you don't write either way. So he had a great answer for it, which was black jobs
Starting point is 00:19:49 are jobs. He said jobs anybody would have. Yeah. And what I thought was really fascinating is this question was asked by a bunch of people who very clearly have black jobs. I mean, the whole conference is a black professionals organization for black people with these specific jobs. So what's a black job? Well, journalism is a black job. That's a black professionals organization for black people with these specific jobs. So what's a black job? Well, journalism is a black job. That's for one. I mean, you're all here testifying to that. Why are they acting like they're offended? He means jobs held by black people. That's exactly right. And he's like, and they are losing these jobs to non-citizens who are being allowed in the country.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Let's play this clip. This is a minute 45 from the conference. I mean, it is not lost on us how divided we are as a country. And as you were coming today, we really got to see that we are divided along the lines of race, along the lines of gender. And there is this question of, in this moment where we are, why come here? What is your message today? My message is to stop people from invading our country that are taking, frankly, a lot of problems with it. But one of the big problems and a lot of the journalists in this room I know and I have great respect for, a lot of the journalists in this room are black. I will tell you that coming.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I love the laughter because Trump is literally at the National Association of Black Journalists and he says a lot of them here are black. I will tell you that coming, I love the laughter because Trump is literally at the national association of black journalists. And he says, a lot of them here are black. And they start laughing coming from the border are millions and millions of people that happen to be taking black jobs. You had the best. What exactly is a black job, sir? A black job is anybody that has a job. That's what it is. Anybody that has a job. All right. And they're taking the employment away from black people. They're coming in and they're coming in. They're invading.
Starting point is 00:21:31 It's an invasion of millions of people, probably 15, 16, 17 million people. I have a feeling it's much more than that. And everybody's been seeing what's happened. The first group of people, the black population, is affected most by that. And Kamala is allowing it to happen. She's the border czar. She's the worst border czar in the history of the world. There's never been a border czar like this. There's never even essentially been. She said she was there once, but not the right part of the border. So she was a border czar. She's done a horrible job. These people are coming into our country and they're taking black jobs and Hispanic jobs.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And frankly, they're taking union jobs. Unions are being very badly affected by all of the millions of people that are pouring into our country. There's some other clips. Let's play this one. Here we go. Some of your own supporters, including Republicans on Capitol Hill, have labeled Vice President Kamala Harris, who is the first black and Asian-American woman to serve as vice president and be on a major party ticket, That's one of the best ones. Yeah. Yes. That's yeah. Go ahead. Is that what your definition? That is literally the words.
Starting point is 00:22:48 That's the acronym. Right. Give me a definition. Sir, I'm asking you a question, a very direct question. Define it for me, if you will. I just defined it, sir. No, she didn't. Vice President Kamala Harris is only on the ticket because she is a black woman.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Well, I can say, no, I think it's maybe a little bit different. So I've known her a long time indirectly, not directly very much. And she was always of Indian heritage and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black. And now she wants. So I don't know. Is she Indian or is she black? She is always identified as a black. I respect either one. I respect either one. But she obviously doesn't because she was Indian all the way. And then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went. She it's a good political play. Just to be clear, it's a that's a smart statement for conservatives to bring up,
Starting point is 00:23:41 because what it says to a lot of the black community is that she's she's not been an active participant until she needed to be to earn those votes she's an opportunist and she's an opportunist where her identity is concerned too and it also the fact that they get offended the fact that like the left gets offended when you point out that someone is a DEI hire yet they consistently push DEI as though it's this, you know, wonderful thing. It can't be racist to say that someone is a DEI hire if DEI is great. It can only be a positive thing. It's either important or it's not.
Starting point is 00:24:13 This person's a DEI hire. Right. They celebrated Joe Biden when he was saying, I'm going to hire a woman of color for the Supreme Court and for my vice president. Yeah, he said the same thing for the Supreme Court and for the vice president. And, you know, it's because they know that DEI is not based on merit and it's just a racist thing. You don't have the clips in here, though, where he I think the first question asked when she basically insults him, like, why would you come here? And he's like, well, I can tell you I've never been asked a horrible, hostile way. You know, and everyone's like, whoa. And then you guys.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I was already at a thousand words and I was like, how long am I going to go with this thing? I didn't see this one because I only saw the clips, but you guys mentioned that he grabs the woman's water bottle and then tightens the cap or something. I don't know if he did it on accident. He thought it was his, or he did it. I really actually hope he did it on purpose. But, yeah, he grabbed the water bottle that's in between the two of them, and you can see him clearly tighten the cap and then put it back. He doesn't even take a drink out of it. So if he didn't do it intentionally, I'm not really sure why he did it.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I actually think that exchange is worth noting because I think it's sort of a preview of the kind of dynamic the left wing media will report on when whenever Trump eventually debates Kamala Harris. We all know it'll happen. I know they're having kind of scuffles over which outlet and the date or whatever. But, you know, the thing that Kamala got lauded for when she debated last time, Pence, when she was like, I'm speaking, I'm speaking. I'm not going to let you interrupt me. And that's effectively a similar posture to what this woman is doing. She's being like, you're ridiculous and disrespectful. And you'll see, I'm confident, people say Trump-ass, ignorant question, amazing journalist, just held her own. Interrupts black women, black journalists. Right, right. And it'd be that whole I'm speaking thing. I think there's t-shirts that say I'm
Starting point is 00:25:54 speaking. Right. Well, this woman's clearly campaigning for herself. She's not there to do journalism and ask Trump questions. No, and so I think that's you know, he did do well, and Libby has pointed this out several times to us tonight, like he made the audience laugh the audience liked trump maybe not all of them maybe not all the time but it wasn't a completely hostile reception from the audience even if many of the questions posed to him were were hostile uh but i think when you eventually see the kamala trump debate there is
Starting point is 00:26:21 going to be a need to be able to handle this like I'm a strong woman and you're just a mean man being mean to me. You know, talking over her is fine. I don't care about it, but I know that you will get reports from the other side saying. Well, if you're strong, then you don't need to worry about someone being mean to you because what do you care? But that's what Trump did, basically. Yeah. It's, you know, he sits down and they ask hostile questions and he just snaps right back at her. He's like, boy, that boy that was uh you know very hostile and then what was the other thing you mentioned that she asked about his divorce and it was well at least you asked it nicely yeah yeah i see i've always been a believer that trump should be doing events in downtown detroit i think he could really
Starting point is 00:26:58 i think he could win michigan easily if he did this exact same kind of thing in Detroit. Because you can see that, yeah, sure, the crowd was hostile at the very beginning, but they kind of warm up to him. And you can't not like the guy as he goes through his answers. You think to yourself, if it was me up on stage being attacked like that, yeah, I'd probably be a little bit of an a-hole as well. But he keeps it to a reasonable measure. He answers the question reasonably well enough, and he just lets them become more and more hostile, and I think it makes them look worse
Starting point is 00:27:30 as time goes on. One of the questions that she asks is, she's like, you called black journalists animals. Is that appropriate language? And then, I don't think Trump gave a very strong answer, but he certainly, I think that's when he says, oh, you're asking me a hostile question. My response would be like, am I not allowed to insult someone based on that? Like, am I not allowed to criticize or insult people because they happen to be from a certain racial group? Like if there's an Asian guy, a white guy, a Hispanic guy, and I can call the white guy or the Hispanic guy an animal if they're being disrespectful, but the black guy's off limits. Hey, I believe in racial equality. If you're a good person, insult everybody equally. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I believe in insulting and complimenting people based on the content of their character, and just because you're of a certain race doesn't give you any special benefits when it comes to me criticizing you. So this is my point I was making earlier. She's like, how dare you? You called black journalists animals. And then when Trump says black jobs, what is that supposed to mean? What is a black job? And it's like,
Starting point is 00:28:20 how are you going to get mad when Trump calls a person an animal not based on race, just the person? And then when he does mention that there, as the black community, their jobs are being taken away, now you're offended again. Right. It's just faux offense. That's the annoying thing about it. I wish that he would have countered with, were you this upset when Joe Biden said, if you're not voting for me, you're not black.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I mean, it is OK when Joe Biden says stuff that I found really questionable, but it's not okay when Trump alludes to black people having jobs and them being possibly threatened by illegal immigration. And he's in a room full of black people. So, of course, he would say that they're taking black jobs. If he was in a room full of Hispanic people, he would say they're taking Hispanic jobs. If he was in a room with white people, he would say they're taking white jobs. When he was like, frankly, a lot of the journalists here are black people. They laugh. Like, you can't. He's funny. Yeah. It's like,, frankly, a lot of the journalists here are black people. They laugh. He's funny.
Starting point is 00:29:07 It's like, dude, you're in a room of nothing but white people. In case you didn't notice. I bet he wouldn't talk about white jobs, though. Yeah, maybe not. The point he's making is that a black job is a job held by someone in the black community. That's it. He's saying, you guys have a community
Starting point is 00:29:23 that you're concerned about, and they're taking your jobs from you. That's the point. Why are you mad? Right, but she thinks he's going to be like, what's her name? Kelly Osbourne on whatever show that was, where she was like, who's going to scrub your toilet, right?
Starting point is 00:29:36 They're expecting something from Trump that isn't there. And a part of it is because they came in prime to be hysterical. And I think there are tons of journalists who do this right and left. They know how they want it to play out. And I go back to, I can't remember the name of the girl who ran the CNN town hall where Trump came out and was like on stage at one point. He like pulled out a paper of the tweets that weren't allowed to go out at one point. Like he did really
Starting point is 00:30:00 well and she was not prepared for it because she came in really aggressively. And CNN ended up ending that program early because of how well he was doing, because their journalists came in with a bias and couldn't adapt to the situation they were in. Yeah, I think they still haven't learned how to deal with Trump. The more aggressive you get, the better off he looks, I think. I think he does worse in debates and interviews where people are nicer to him and he doesn't really have anything to go off of but he's he's the master at taking their energy and redirecting it into his own responses and getting enough of a laugh out of people that like again you might not like him but you you find something in common with him in some way because you put yourself in that situation and you think, how would I react if I was the same?
Starting point is 00:30:50 I wish I could snap back that quick. Man, he was so fast with that response. Even if you don't particularly like the response, you got to give him the credit for being quick and turning things around. And let me let me let me play this learned. I want to play the clip that i just mentioned because i got it from greg price here not true you have told four congresswoman women of color who were american citizens to go back to where they came from you have used words like animal and rabbit to describe black district attorneys you've attacked black journalists calling them a loser saying the questions that they ask are quote stupid and racist you've had dinner with a white supremacist at your Mar-a-Lago resort. So my question, sir, now that you are asking black supporters to vote for you,
Starting point is 00:31:33 why should black voters trust you after you have used language like that? Well, first of all, I don't think I've ever been asked a question so, in such a horrible manner first question you don't even say hello how are you are you with ABC because I think they're a fake news network and I think it's disgraceful that yeah it's yours yeah I mean in good spirit I love the black population of this country I've done so much love the black population of this country. I've done so much for the black population of this country, including employment, including opportunity zones with Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, which is one of the greatest programs ever for black workers and black entrepreneurs. I've done so much. And, you know, when I say this,
Starting point is 00:32:26 historically, black colleges and universities were out of money. They were stone cold broke. And I saved them and I gave them long term financing and nobody else was doing it. I think it's a very rude introduction. I don't know exactly why you would do something like that. And let me go a step further. I was invited here and I was told my opponent, whether it was Biden or Kamala, I was told my opponent was going to be here. It turned out my opponent isn't here. You invited me under false pretense. And then you said you can't do it with Zoom. Well, you know, where's Zoom? She's going to do it with zoom and she's not coming
Starting point is 00:33:06 and then you were half an hour late just so we understand they couldn't get their equipment working or something i think it's a very nasty question i have answered the question i have been the best president for the black population since abraham lincoln president for the black population since Abraham Lincoln.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I don't think President Johnson will sign the voting rights act. I want you to start off a question and answer period, especially when you're 35 minutes late, because you couldn't get your equipment to work in such a hostile manner. I think it's a disgrace. I actually love that he specifically called out ABC, too, because I said this the other night, but ABC has a weird connection to the Biden-Harris administration. It gets more sketchy to me all the time. The fact that George Stephanopoulos, ABC got the first Biden post debate interview and then Kim Cheadle didn't do any press except for ABC News, like very weird. And they're supposed to host the September 10th debate.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Right. So, like, I think it's fair for him to be like oh wow abc seems like you guys have a bias let's let's break down that question she asked she hammered him with a bunch of points as if they were true without giving me so so here's how a journalist should act donald trump you've been accused of calling person you know a this word response you've also said of this person we have a quote response uh you said this person is an animal you know how do you respond to this what was that about a journalist would ask the question what she did was she goes you did this thing this thing this thing this thing this thing this thing you're bad why should you be here no evidence yeah no fact checking they're
Starting point is 00:34:39 going to fact check him real time which is what they were trying to do which is what they claim the delay was for they say that he didn't want them to be fact-checking him alive, and they were going back and forth about it. So yeah, but then the journalists can rattle off a bunch of things that aren't true. And what's he supposed to do, fact-check them live up there or answer the question? He doesn't have all that in front of him. It's ridiculous. So there's a lot of heat coming Trump's way now. We have this from the Daily Mail. Donald Trump saysala harris became a black person after being indian all the way and so now uh what do we have this um do we have this one uh
Starting point is 00:35:14 here we go anna navarro cardenas who is uh what is she's a nicaraguan american cnn in the view says idiot in front of black audience trump Trump argues Kamala Harris isn't black. In front of white audiences, Vance argues she's a DEI hire who's gotten where she is because she's a black woman. How can they argue both things at the same time about the same person? Bunch of clowns. Because that's what Democrats do. No, no, no. Because she's Indian.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Like, DEI hire could be because she's a woman. It's not even about race. Right. But now they're mad because Trump made this, he pointed this out, and he pointed it out accurately. The political play a long time ago was that she was an Indian woman, and the political play today is that she's a black woman.
Starting point is 00:35:54 She is both, but it is a political maneuver to try and brand her with one or the other race. How about four, five years ago, or six years ago, I think it was eight years ago. They say she's Indian Jamaican and just point out that she's biracial. Yeah, I mean, I think they'll they'll do whatever they need.
Starting point is 00:36:17 They'll say whatever they need to say in the moment to accomplish their goal. If they didn't have. And that's exactly what Trump is pointing out. They would have nothing. If they didn't have double standards, they have no standards at all. Correct. I think Kamala Harris was... I think that's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yeah, I think Kamala Harris was a win for the Biden administration because she was sort of a biracial woman who therefore they could trot out at any occasion, right? Like when they need someone to be the spokesperson for diversity, they have Kamala Harris. And, you know, that's cool if that's what you think your administration needs.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I think it's kind of gross, but it's not clear that they hired her for merit. They hired her because of what she looks like. Could it perhaps be weird? Could it perhaps be weird that they do that? The other thing, too, speaking of the double standards is you had Pete Buttigieg recently speaking to The New York Times on one of their podcasts, what is the Daily? And he was asked outright, and he's like been a huge Kamala surrogate at this point. And he was asked if he thought Kamala Harris should accept the invitation from Fox to debate on September 17th, which was the has been the only invitation held out to Kamala Harris, as opposed to her like dropping into try and fill Biden's shoes. And Pete Buttigieg said that he did not think
Starting point is 00:37:30 she should debate on Fox because he thought they were too biased. But he does apparently think that Trump should debate, not Joe Biden in an ABC debate on September 10th, even though Kamala Harris wasn't invited to that debate. So who's going to be at that september 10th debate uh nobody so far and you really just town hall yeah you really just have kamala harris's campaign demanding that trump show up on terms that he agreed to to debate joe biden even though he hasn't agreed to those terms for her i don't i
Starting point is 00:38:02 suppose uh and i wonder why Trump doesn't debate Kamala Harris. He has said that he would. But this is the thing about the Fox invitation, which came out a couple of days ago. You know, that's that network saying, like, now that the contract seems to be void because Biden is no longer in the race, we will host a debate between Kamala Harris and Trump. And, you know, Trump had said, I'm happy to debate her. We can have multiple debates. But I actually don't think it's that unreasonable for him to say like, but as you have now suddenly dropped in a new candidate, that does not mean we have to stick to this agreement with ABC News. Right. And especially because I think ABC News has been
Starting point is 00:38:36 kind of sketchy this summer. Yeah, they haven't been so great. Yeah. And there is definitely this double standard where everyone's just kind of assuming that because the Democrats have, you know, changed their presumptive nominee, that means that presumptive nominee is entitled to everything that Joe Biden had, you know, earned as president and as the candidate. And I don't see why that particularly, but you could make the argument. But in this case, you, but we're going to do one on Fox then so that at least we have two or we'll pick somebody neutral in the middle. And you guys don't get some. We've we've allowed Democrats to run the rules of these debates. I don't exactly know how that happened, but it just seems like it's been that way. And Trump has sort of had to just take what he can get in a sense trump's team back when they were debating the debates before the first one had said like we're happy to do three because these aren't being run by the official like president of the bay body they're they're run by these like agreements between the campaigns and the networks uh and typically there are three every year so they had
Starting point is 00:39:58 scheduled this one uh in in uh may and then they were like renewed again in sept, and then they were like, we're gonna do it again in September. And then Trump's team had said, well, we'll do a third. And Biden's team had said no. So it's this weird thing where like the Biden campaign was very different than Harris's campaign because their candidate had struggles that they say Kamala doesn't have. Right. And it seems largely like those are related to age. He needed different support. They didn't want people in the room. This question of breaks. Are they going to sit down? I don't know why Kamala Harris would want to debate the way that Biden was going to debate, because theoretically, she's younger. She's more energetic. She shouldn't want the same format. So I don't understand why her campaign is acting like this is such a weird thing that they would go back to the drawing board
Starting point is 00:40:44 and renegotiate the terms. I thought she wasn't Biden 2.0. I thought she was her own special person. And who's J.D. Vance going to debate now? We don't even know. We should find out by Tuesday. Tuesday is the time because she's supposed to, Kamala Harris is supposed to hold a joint rally in Philly on Tuesday with an as yet to be named. Kelly.
Starting point is 00:41:03 You think Mark Kelly? Yeah. I still think it's going to be Bashar. Basharhar i should learn his name before it happens yeah so the speculation so uh i think the betting odds were for kelly but there was some news reports saying the rumor was it was going to be a governor yeah i i think it'll be the governor of kentucky i mean don't i'm not willing to put money on this i don't know for sure but you know he's definitely posturing like it's going to be him online. I think they're all kind of really hoping.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Well, they were there was a rumor that the DNC was trying to get a bunch of Wall Street firms to donate ahead of the announcement for VP because they're not allowed to donate if there's a sitting governor on the ticket or something like that. Can we just point out real quick? I want to stress this, that Donald Trump destroyed Joe Biden in that debate so horribly that joe biden dropped out of the race yeah that's exactly what happened it is he was forced out his his performance was so atrocious against donald trump we gotta get rid of the democrats panicked and removed him from from the race yeah which should not be a thing you're allowed to do you shouldn't just be like oh this candidate that we picked that we've been running this whole time, it turns out that he's not great against the other guy. So let's switch it up real quick and just pretend we never did.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Well, we were saying before, I don't think Harris should just get to act like she inherits everything Biden got. And I think that should apply to the voters, right? She made a big show. This is all the reporting I heard, you know, that Sunday that that Biden dropped out and endorsed her, that she was calling all these organizations, these union workers, all of these people, delegates saying, I'm going to earn your vote. And apparently she had earned their vote by 9 a.m. on Monday morning. I mean, it was amazing how fast people coalesced. And then they say it's grassroots, which is such a huge lie. I wonder if the voters feel that way. I think there must be some voters who feel a certain level of whiplash and who also looked at her being like, I didn't support you in 2020. It's not like she took second place.
Starting point is 00:42:52 I bet there's a lot of voters who just feel relieved. Yeah. I'll tell you there's a, cause they want somebody to vote for and they weren't going to vote for Biden. But once that honeymoon like falls apart. Yeah. But the honeymoon doesn't have to be very long. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I mean, it's only a few months to the election. Well, and for her, it just has to be until she gets on the ticket because then they don't have any other choices. Right. That's true, too. Yeah, I think there's a lot of people on the left that are really not very happy about Kamala. I have some friends who are pretty far on the left, and none of them really like her. She's a former prosecutor, put all these people in jail for drug crimes and things that they don't really believe in. And they're not really hot on her. She's a former prosecutor, put all these people in jail for drug crimes and things that they don't really believe in. They're not really hot on her. I would be
Starting point is 00:43:33 surprised. I will be surprised to see how the election goes. She also spearheaded male rapists being able to be housed in women's prisons in California. Perfect. Right. Yeah. It was great. Amy Ichikawa from Woman to Woman, which is an advocacy group for incarcerated
Starting point is 00:43:53 women was on Charlie Kirk today talking about it. And it's pretty bad. I mean, it's pretty bad at the Chowchilla facility, what's going on there. there's men in the prison there's you know there's sexual relationships going on there's abuse going on um and it's really a big problem there's no reason that women's prisons in california should be handing out contraception to women they should not have to worry about getting pregnant by other inmates in a women's correctional facility, and it disrupts the ability to heal and to be redeemed. Right, if you're trying to reform someone, subject them to abuse and terror, it's probably not going to go.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Now you're putting them in a much worse situation. Yeah, and like so many women who are in prison were already subject to abuse. That's a big part of how women end up in prison. Well, we got male boxers fighting women in the Olympics. That was four years ago, too, though. Everything has just turned on its head. I'm pretty sure there's a photo of those same male boxers in 2020 fighting in the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:44:54 So it was 2021. It was postponed. But they've been allowed to fight for a long time. And that's why the betting odds favor the men. In sport, you could argue that it's the least, or how do I say this? Like the most obvious you don't do it. The most obvious. I mean, I've been in combat sports my entire life.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I started wrestling when I was 12, been doing jiu-jitsu for 15 years. I had women on my wrestling team in middle school, high school. I train with women every day at my jiu-jitsu academy. And if you spend 15 minutes in any combat sport and you see the differences, I feel like it would change almost anybody's mind except for the most radical people who are just a total NPC out to lunch downloading the program every night. It's so obvious. I don't know how anybody can't see it. I want to jump to this story. We got a couple of tweets. The Democrats have been running the weird narrative because that's their
Starting point is 00:45:50 line of attack. But oh boy, did they step in at this time. Nevada Democrats quoted Sam Brown, a veteran who was injured and has suffered burns to his face. And he had posted with J.D. Vance on X, it's time hardworking Nevadans have champions for them in the White House and U.S. Senate. President Trump, J.D. Vance and I are ready to lead and help make life better for every Nevadan and American. We got you. And Nevada Democrats said, you can't make this up. Sam Brown and J.D. Vance are claiming to be champions for hardworking Nevadans from a private jet. They're not only hypocrites, they're just plain weird. And the reason why they step in is because we all know what happened with
Starting point is 00:46:27 Donald Trump. When Donald Trump liked to do that thing where he would mock people by bouncing his arm on his chest, and then all of a sudden a journalist popped up who had a disability with his arm, and the media ran the narrative that Donald Trump was intentionally mocking a disabled journalist. Sam Brown has responded, saying, yes, you can call my face weird. It won't be the first or last time I've heard it, but my message is not to you. My message is to anyone else who has been put down or called weird because of their experiences or who they are. I say to you, do not allow others to define you. I'm proud of my scars. They might look a little different, but it gives me an opportunity to encourage others. I encourage every one of you
Starting point is 00:47:04 to lean into things that make you unique and that others may call weird and realize that your experience, whether it's suffering or something else, gives you an opportunity to connect with others and give them hope. You are loved. You are appreciated. The things that make you unique can also be your greatest strength. In response to them calling him weird. And it's just like, guys, we try to be a little sensitive. You know what I mean? They're supposed to be calling him weird. And it's just like, guys, we try to be a little sensitive. You know what I mean? They're supposed to be the sensitive ones, right? They're claiming to be.
Starting point is 00:47:38 But this is the problem with a open hatch and randomly fire out the insult of weird to any and everyone. And then not thinking about you insulting a guy. And I say this with all due respect to Captain Sam Brown, who's pointing out he has been called weird before. It's one thing to call J.D. Vance or Trump weird because in their minds, they're like, it's punching up, right? Trump's a billionaire. J.D. Vance center. He's got a successful book and a movie. Sam Brown is a is an injured veteran who has been called weird because of the injuries he suffered. And they are not paying attention to what they're doing when they just blanket everybody as weird,
Starting point is 00:48:07 and now they've stepped in it. So this only gets pushed if Republicans decide this is an attack factor. Make it an issue, yeah. And I think they should. They should say, guys, chill out on the weird stuff, because you're not paying attention to who you're insulting. Sam Brown has said he's been called weird before because of his face, because of the injuries he's suffered serving this country,
Starting point is 00:48:26 and now Democrats are not even thinking about what they're calling this guy. I think if the Trump campaign isn't already churning out a ton of merchandise with weird and some reference to that, they're crazy. I think this is probably one of the bigger political mistakes that the left could make. I mean, I'm weird. You're weird. I mean, I think everybody in this room is to a certain extent. They want to be the status quo.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Maybe let them be the status quo. Yeah. The left, I mean, look at the left. You're going to call people on the right weird. People on the right were always the ones accused of being, you know, starched collars, boring, sticks in the mud. Bow tie. Right, bow tie.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Exactly. That's what they say about Tucker Carlson, a bunch of uptight nerds. And now we're the weird ones? Good. I hope we are. I hope we embrace it and make it, turn it right back for them. Let's get all the weirdest people
Starting point is 00:49:20 and put them all in the same room. It is the stodgy conservatives who have never liked being called weird. They want to be normal. And it is only, I think, because of this coalition between more moderates, post-liberals, disaffected liberals and independents.
Starting point is 00:49:31 All of those people are fine with being called weird. Sure. You know, but these suit-wearing conservative types, you look you go to any one of these conservative events, you go to these youth conservative college events, and it's just like, dude, it is like a bunch of 18-year-olds wearing suits. Yeah, khaki pants.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Yeah, come on, guys. You got to be a little weird. A lot of high heels, too. A lot of high heels, red dresses. Red dresses. Everybody is very much in line. Very makeup-y. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:56 But I think that's changed. I mean, maybe not at those kinds of events, you know, sort of the core Republicans, the ones that are unfortunately still in charge of the party and the way things go. But I think that's changing. I mean, I think that's why we've had some success as a company on X is just like, we are weird and we're happy to embrace it and I think people enjoy
Starting point is 00:50:18 the fact that conservatives need to apologize to Sam Brown. Getting out of their shell. Democrats need to apologize to Sam Brown. Every single Republican their shell. Democrats need to apologize to Sam Brown. Every single Republican should be like, fine, call me weird, but apologize to Sam Brown. Yeah. Force Democrat leadership to go on TV and say we did not mean it. We're sorry.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Make them do it. What's weird, if I may, is that you have a lot of leftist cities that pride themselves on their weirdness. Keep Portland weird. Keep Austin weird. And suddenly weird is bad. I thought weird was your whole thing. I thought, you know, furry drag queens reading to children. They're abandoning it. Was like the great thing. They're abandoning it because Kamala is a mean girl sorority sister now. Democrats have become the party of the wealthy. In 2016, Vox.com wrote that they have continually become the party of the status
Starting point is 00:51:05 quo. Look at the Lincoln Project. Look at the neocons who dumped the Republicans and joined the Democrats. The Democrats are trying to not be the weird party and actually is an issue for them. The far left does the things they do. Joe Biden doesn't want that stuff. He tries to push it away, but he can't because he needs their votes. So they are trying to label this what they do with defund the police. They call the far left calls for defund the police and then establishment Democrats try getting on board with it. The New York Times tries getting on board that they realize it's unpopular. And then they say the right wants to defund the police. Right. When the right said stuff like deweaponize the FBI, they try to push it off onto the right. weird fine but the main play right now is that that what every republican should be saying is apologize to sam brown call trump weird call jd vance weird call me weird all you like me i like being called weird i don't want to be stodgy status quo but that's just me well i'll tell you this you and i together democrats we will call trump weird but you got to apologize to sam brown
Starting point is 00:51:59 yeah but they're not going to do that they That's the only thing. All that matters is that when there is a rally at a small suburban town and there's a bunch of undecideds, they can say, look, call me weird. It's fine. But please apologize to Sam Brown. That's not cool. That's not OK, man. This guy, he made a sacrifice for his nation. We could. So say say you're sorry and then we can move on and you can insult me all you want.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And they're not going to do it. And then let the American people see what they're willing to do for their politics. Republicans would would they always become they get demure. Well, look at George Floyd. The George Floyd incident happens. Every single conservative comes out saying, whoa, geez, look at the Covington kids. Right. When the Covington thing happens with the Native American, all of a sudden every conservative is like, oh, well, geez, you know, that was really bad what the kid did. Very few people said, no, I'm going to challenge and question this narrative. So now we have a situation where the Democrats want to play this weird angle and insult all the conservatives as weird. And then they call an injured veteran weird. And he happens to get called weird because of his face. Not make him apologize. That's that. Make him apologize. Part of the thing, though, where Republicans will say, oh, the Covington kid, that was a problem or whatever. And they'll come out and do that is because it's only in those moments that Republicans get accepted by the left and get airtime on these legacy networks.
Starting point is 00:53:23 And they want to be liked. They want to be included in that whole thing. So they say, oh, sure, I'm never Trump, or the kid shouldn't have smiled, or the abortion rules go too far, or whatever it is. They'll come out and say that so that they can have access to that platform. Republicans always begin with an apology. Always.
Starting point is 00:53:44 And they have to get over that, or they're going to keep losing. And that's sort of always begin with an apology. Always. And they have to get over that or they're going to keep losing. Well, and that's sort of what's interesting, too. If I can, like this Pete Buttigieg interview, another thing that he was saying was that if Kamala wins the presidency, then you eliminate MAGA and that you're back to a, you know, more normal Republican party. Because what the Democrats really fear is the MAGA movement. They're worried. And that's why they're going so hard against J.D. Vance, because J.D. Vance is the future of that movement. He's young. He's got a lot of political career ahead of him. You know, he can he can gather a lot of people around and rally that. And that's what the Democrats really fear. They would
Starting point is 00:54:19 love to go back to the era of fiscal conservative bowtied Republicans who just want to apologize and be included. And they're not seeing they're not seeing a way to really defeat a populist movement where people are proud of who they are and where they come from, where they don't want to apologize for their guns or their religion or their free speech, you know, or owning their land or whatever else it is that people just want to do and be left alone. And the Democrats don't see a way to beat that. And that's why they're doing this whole mean girls thing. And they're throwing a lot of stuff at the wall right now.
Starting point is 00:54:53 I mean, they're just because they have nothing. We try to get Kamala to be, you know, Kamala is brat. Like they're going to turn on a lot of stuff. She's talking to another sorority tonight. Yeah. This is what, like the third sorority in a week and a half look sorority girls are extremely powerful america the lobby has been underrepresented i'm just kidding no but they're gonna throw a lot of stuff at the wall because uh democrats have typically always controlled messaging and language and they believe that
Starting point is 00:55:18 that's their their ticket back to the white house because i think to your point they are afraid of the manga movement and a lot of the mag movement introduced a new narrative that they couldn't combat. And so they have to make all of these very personal attacks. He's weird. Like, you know, whatever it is, they're just trying to make it these sort of ick factor. Like, for some reason, you just don't like them. Because they're having a hard time challenging the policies. You had AOC basically saying, she was saying that MAGA and JD Vance are incels.
Starting point is 00:55:46 JD Vance, the father of three. The father of three. The father of Ohio who's married. Right. But you know, no, no. And it's buzzwords, right? Like if they can just hit like things that make people say, oh, I don't like that person.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I know that term is bad. I know I'm going to distance myself from it. I mean, to go to the reaction to the DEI hire aspect. I agree with that. They don't want it to be something that they're tagged with. Yeah, I agree with Scott Adams' assessment of this. And he's pretty convinced that whoever came up with the weird tagline is female. And he's always been of the opinion that the Democrat Party is now the party of women. And I don't disagree with that. I think they're really
Starting point is 00:56:24 trying to tie into that. And weird is sort of a female insult, you know, like they give, oh, he gives me the ick, you know, he's a weird guy, all these kinds of things. Guys don't generally insult each other that way. And so I think they're, they've got the candidate that they want. They're going to try, I think that they see a lot more potential in her than they do in Hillary. They would never be able to do this kind of stuff with her because she's a stodgy stick in the mud woman.
Starting point is 00:56:54 And Kamala, she's got these rappers coming out. They're acting like it's a party. Right. And I feel like conservatives will fail if they give too much into participating in whatever rhetoric development is happening right now with the media, right? party. Right. And I feel like conservatives will fail if they give too much into participating in whatever rhetoric development is happening right now with the media, right? Like trying to talk to them about their buzzwords or whatever weird insult they've come up with during this time.
Starting point is 00:57:13 You know, it's sort of irrelevant, like stay the course, attack Kamala Harris on things that are relevant, like her time as a prosecutor, her failure to secure national security, her lack of international diplomacy experience. Like you could have a substantive conversation that they will not be able to combat with. All they have is weird and brat. He should say, listen, Kamala, let's sit down and have a 30 minute discussion about the war in Ukraine. And tell me about a business you've built, Kamala. Yeah, yeah. Let's jump to the story from NBC News.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Harris's political assent makes the latest target of DEI insults. Now, we saw this in the Donald Trump interview at the National Association of Black Journalists. But it's become a big talking point in the media that people are insulting Kamala Harris by calling her a diversity hire. So they write this big thing about how she's a diversity hire and how it's an insult. And I'll just pause right there and say, first of all, we have this clip from Tenet Media, which I'll play for you of George Takei. Strength, optimism and joy. And she is the very personification of diversity. You can see it in her and her diversity embraces the world from Jamaica all the way down to South Asia, India. And beyond that, she what she has done. OK, blah, blah. OK, so she personifies diversity. So when I say she was hired for diversity, I'm insulting her. Right. Yeah, I thought that was supposed to be a good thing. Yeah. Why? Why isn't the response if if I say Kamala Harris is a diversity hire, should the Democrats then turn to all their voters
Starting point is 00:58:49 and say, look at that, look how good we've done with diversity hiring the vice president? We did so amazing that the president is a diversity hire. Right. Did not get there on their own merits. We say all the time that there's...
Starting point is 00:59:00 But is a black woman so yay? Yeah, we say all the time there's not enough diversity and then you have this top-tier diversity selection, and yet you're unhappy about it. Which is it? What are you aiming for here? They want diversity hires,
Starting point is 00:59:13 but they know that conservatives don't like diversity hires, so they're mad that the literal context of diversity hire is pejorative to conservatives. And so that's it? They lose their minds over this? Well, I think that they know it's a pejorative to conservatives. And so that's it? They lose their minds over this? Well, I think that they know it's a pejorative to pretty much everybody. In the grand scheme of things, almost nobody wants somebody to be hired only because of what
Starting point is 00:59:36 they look like. They want to be hired because of their qualifications. If you ask somebody if the mechanic working on the aircraft you're about to fly on was hired because of merit or because of diversity, every single person is going to say merit. So they only use that when it's convenient for them to push. They love diversity when they're trying to bully some Fortune 500 company into hiring more people of whatever race, whatever color, whatever religion that they think they need more of. But when it comes to their own decisions, they don't want to be tied to that same rock. They don't want that tied around their leg. They want to be able to pick who they think has got the best chance of winning.
Starting point is 01:00:17 And in this case, they think it's her, not just because of, I mean, clearly not because of her accomplishments, but they know that she taps into the right demographics and that, unfortunately, people on their side of the fence are going to vote for her for those demographics no matter what. Mike Cernovich tweeted, quote, To me, the values of diversity, equality, inclusion are literally, and this is not kidding, the core strengths of America. That's why I'm proud to have the most diverse administration in history. And it starts at the top with the vice president. Okay? Why are they insulted by what they want? This is what I don't get.
Starting point is 01:00:52 You get conservatives constantly defending liberals too. So I'll say something like, oh wow, look at the crime running rampant in New York City. Congratulations. And they're like, no, that's mean. You can't blame them. I'm like, whoa, hold on. So like, these people in york vote for crime i'm not i'm not being cute i'm like saying they literally literally have politicians who come out yeah and they say we want to release criminals from jail
Starting point is 01:01:14 we want to make it so they can't be arrested we want to make it so that if they do get arrested there's no cash bail and they say i'm voting for that then that criminal who gets out robs them and i go congratulations and i get conservatives go no no come on tim you yeah they were nice be nice and they say, I'm voting for that. Then that criminal who gets out robs them and I go, congratulations. And I get conservatives going, no, no, no, come on, Tim. Yeah, be nice, be nice. What do you mean they voted for it? I'm cheering them on. That's right.
Starting point is 01:01:33 It's like I was saying before the show, if a guy comes to me and says, I'm going to juggle, I'd say, okay. And then when he does, I'd be like, great. I don't understand. You say, I'm going to vote for the people who want criminals released and then you become a victim of crime.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I'll be like, okay. I don't understand why we have this constant assumption from conservatives that Democrats are just making mistakes all the time. And we have to be nice to them for being dumb. Like, sure, by all means, call them dumb. But like they're the ones who created the DEI initiatives. And now they're mad about it. I'm not going to get congratulations. This is what you wanted to hold them accountable for it. Yeah. Yeah. Problem solved.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Well, it would have been interesting if Biden had come out and said, you know, for my VP, I really want one of the nation's best prosecutors. And I'm going to only pick someone who has in, you know, who is a former attorney general who's had really, you know, a lot of experience. And then, you know, just happened to be Kamala Harris. But it was always about who she was in terms of the boxes she would check on an application form in terms of her race, her gender. You know, I honestly wish she had pushed back about it more. But instead, she also was like, yes, I am here. I am the first female whatever vice president. And to me, it's very different than the conversations that
Starting point is 01:02:46 the conservative movement had. Oh, yeah. They avoid it like the plague, you know. But there was a whole push for a while. We were like, no, Trump has to pick a female vice president, which I thought was crazy. Why does he have to do anything? He doesn't. But they were saying, well, you know, because they have this female, so we have to do it, too. Like, this is what makes me crazy, which is like, we all know that it should be about marriage. It should be about how successful this person is. And instead, somehow the RNC will start being like, well, but we should also play the identity
Starting point is 01:03:16 game because they're doing it and that would make them happy. Yeah. So this is another component of the story. Kamala Harris ridiculed for using bizarre Southern accent during Georgia rally and it's not the first time. She was code switching. She does it all the time. Code switching, huh? We won't debate, but he and his running mate
Starting point is 01:03:32 sure seem to have a lot to say about me. And by the way, don't you find some of their stuff to just be plain weird? What does that mean? It's so rehearsed, right? No authenticity whatsoever. Well, Donald. I do hope you'll reconsider to meet me on the debate stage.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Because as the saying goes, if you've got something to say, say it to my face. She hasn't had a press conference. Loud and clear. Without voter suppression. Code switching. Yeah, what they used to do is they'd go to rallies and they'd put on a fake accent because you couldn't track it. Right. You know, before the Internet, you'd show up.
Starting point is 01:04:40 A newspaper would write about what you said. Nobody would hear it. But all the people there would hear you speak like them. Then you go to Brooklyn, you speak like them. Then you go to California, you speak like them. Now it's code switching. But you know who doesn't do that? Donald Trump does not do that.
Starting point is 01:04:55 He speaks exactly the same to everyone. He could be speaking to a room of garbage men or a room of astronauts or a room of, you know, giraffes and zookeepers. It doesn't matter. He would always talk exactly the same, no matter who he's talking about. Yeah. Yeah. And I think people respond to that authenticity. Yeah. And what's interesting, too, is, as I was just saying a second ago, she hasn't held a press conference. She took over Biden's campaign. She has not given journalists an opportunity to ask her any questions. She hasn't spoken from the briefing room.
Starting point is 01:05:28 She hasn't, you know, even just to take questions about her vice presidency. She hasn't had any communication with reporters. She's only stood up at rallies. To be fair, that's in line with the Biden way of, you know, running and campaigning. Sure, sure. But it's really a little bit much that the American people are not going to have a chance to vet this woman before she expects everyone
Starting point is 01:05:50 to vote for her and before she's even really nominated. Is she going to take press questions? What do you think? I think they're going to try to control her maybe even more than they controlled Biden, to be honest with you. And that's really what leftists like. They like, you know, they're the very collectivist in nature. So they like the idea that there's no one person
Starting point is 01:06:12 in charge, that there's sort of a board of directors making these decisions behind the scene. That's why they were okay with putting Biden up in the first place, because they really knew he wasn't in charge. And so I don't think that that will bother them at all. If she doesn't take any press questions, if she doesn't do any interviews, if she doesn't do any debates, I think they're just fine with that because I think what they really want is the team of people behind her to be the ones actually making the decisions. Whereas people on the right, they tend to like the idea of having an executive in charge. You could say there's advantages and disadvantages to both, but we're okay. We want somebody to be making the decisions, right? It's
Starting point is 01:06:50 more like running a SEAL team or something. Somebody's got to make the call. You have a point of contact. Exactly. But in their case, they don't want that. They see anybody who has the ability to make a call as a dictator or some kind of authoritarian. So I think they're going to try to control her as much as they can. And I think she's totally fine with that. I think she's going to put on a big, tough persona out in public, but they're going to keep her away from any tough press questions. My impression is that she's more dependent on the advisors and people who are kind of running her campaign in a way that Biden had more tension. And I mean that because, you know, Biden was a successful politician. I'm not saying he was a good guy, but he was, you know, a seasoned member of the federal government.
Starting point is 01:07:34 And he had won reelection on several different levels, you know, at various points. So he, you know, kind of knew how to campaign in a way that I don't know that Kamala has the same comparable experience. But Biden, probably because of some age related stuff or maybe just some sort of internal tension, seemed to be at odds at times with his advisers and his campaign, both in the White House and on the campaign trail. Kamala, maybe because she doesn't have the experience that he had or maybe because she is not in the same kind of mental space that he is. Or maybe just because her campaign came together, what, like last week, 10 days ago, 12 days ago. It seems like she is really relying on whoever is being like, OK, this is what we're doing. It's going to be brat. OK, now say the word weird. It doesn't seem like she has her own personality.
Starting point is 01:08:20 It never seemed that way to me when she was running in 2020. And especially to Libby's point, you know, Donald Trump is who he is no matter what room he's in, no matter how big the crowd is, no matter the location or venue, you know, there is a Donald Trump and you know kind of what you're getting. Well, she doesn't really have her own personality. Yeah. And she never has over the years. You're exactly right. You know, Biden is Biden existed in politics when he was a guy. He was somebody important. He was somebody that people he expected people to listen to. He had his own agency. But that's not modern politics.
Starting point is 01:08:54 It's certainly not on the left. I mean, look at AOC. You know, they basically hired her to run for office. That's the way that I see it. They said, well, you're pretty. You talk well in public. You've got this fiery personality. So we're going to we're going to we're going to make you we're going to make you a star. We're going to make you somebody. And I think Biden doesn't really like the idea of that happening because he existed in a time before that was the norm. But that's really the way that leftist politics are going and you know unfortunately you see some of that on the right where they're trying to run celebrities and what-have-you and just doesn't work out well because there's that dissonance where we look at it and say okay you guys are running dr. Oz are you serious I mean I don't you know this guy's an idiot I wouldn't listen to
Starting point is 01:09:38 anything he says a mistake you're only putting him up there because he's got name recognition which is exactly what we criticize the left for doing. So why are you doing this? And people aren't going to hold their nose and vote for him the way that people on the left will. Dr. Oz was destroyed by crudités. Yeah, that's right. It's amazing. That's right.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Let's go nuts. Here's the post-millennial story. Elon Musk accepts Nicolas Maduro's challenge to a live fight on national TV, says dictator will chicken out. Who chickened out? Was it Mark Zuckerberg or Elon? I think it was Mark Zuckerberg. Didn't he hurt his back? No, that was Elon who hurt his back.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Oh. I'm pretty sure Zuckerberg does BJJ. So he was okay with it. I'm pretty sure Zuckerberg was like, let's roll. And then Elon didn't do it. I think that might be right. I think Elon, though, said he wanted to do it in the Coliseum. They were like, yeah, it's not happening.
Starting point is 01:10:24 That's not going to happen. So did he chicken out or did he just make it too impossible for that to happen? That's how you do it. He diva'd out. From the post-mortem, of course. Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro challenged ex-CEO Elon Musk to a fight on Monday, which Musk has now accepted via his platform. In a national television broadcast, Maduro declared,
Starting point is 01:10:41 Elon Musk, you are desperate, you went off the rails, and demanded Musk control himself or you will fail just like the right wing led all American politicians do. Okay. He continued, whoever messes with me dries up. Whoever messes with Venezuela dries up. Elon Musk, you want to fight? Let's have it. Elon Musk, I'm ready. I'm not afraid of you. Let's go at it whenever you want. Okay want this so bad so elon uh what he agreed in response uh the outburst follows post from musk on accident accused maduro of major election fraud after maduro and his rival claimed victory in the venezuelan election maduro lee venezuelans chose to end the communist dictatorship of nicholas maduro the data announced a crushing victory of
Starting point is 01:11:22 the opposition and the world is waiting for you to recognize the defeat after years of socialism, misery, decadence, and death, Musk wrote. In response to the New York Post article that detailed the exchange and Maduro's subsequent challenge to a fight, Musk simply responded, I accept. He followed in another reply, he will chicken out. How would that even happen? Would Elon Musk have to go to Venezuela? Yeah, right, they'd lock that guy up. Maybe they could do it in Cuba. They'd have to go to Venezuela? Yeah, right. They'd lock that guy up. Maybe they could do it in Cuba. They'd have to go to a different country altogether.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Neutral ground. Yeah. I don't know. Mexico City. Maybe Haiti. Maybe Haiti. Haiti is like, please, we will host this fight. They would hold both of them for ransom.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I vote no. Accidentally kill them both. I vote no. Elon Musk's work with X and SpaceX is substantially more important than him proving that Maduro is a crackpot. Yeah, I don't. I mean, proving Maduro is a crackpot, you don't need to fight him to do that. I just think this trend of like wealthier, influential men on Twitter, like bringing fisticuffs to it, you know what I mean? Like, whoa, whoa, no, this is a tradition, man. I mean, we had dueling back in the day. Well, we have let
Starting point is 01:12:25 this tradition lapse. So if these men are trying to preserve culture and make dueling great again... I'm good with that. But I'm talking about fisticuffs, right? A fight on national TV is the way we do it. Because let me tell you. See, back in the day, people didn't understand this. I like that you just say, that's how we do it. Well, because the duels weren't actually what people think they are. A lot of people think
Starting point is 01:12:42 that duels were like two guys deciding that someone's going to die. And that's not necessarily true. So I was reading about this with Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr. A lot of people think that duels were like two guys deciding that someone's going to die, and that's not necessarily true. So I was reading about this with Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr, and I think it's been a while since I've read about this, but I'm pretty sure Burr was like fervently, I'll kill you! And Hamilton was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we get it. So when the challenge was made,
Starting point is 01:12:58 typically duels were your honor was challenged, you were insulted, and so you would stand in a duel to prove that you were honorable and you were dignified. However, when they would actually draw their pistols, they would purposefully aim away and fire into a tree or into the ground. So Alexander Hamilton is like, yeah, yeah, yeah, draws his pistol and fires it away. And Burgos is like literally one of them. So duels were never actually about,
Starting point is 01:13:27 I'm sure there were a lot of duels back in the day, like if you go 100,000 years, but like in our American history. Gentlemanly. The duel was just to prove that you would stand by your words in the face of the most extreme circumstance. So I say, you know, like a boxing match, sanctioned with a ref Elon Musk Nicholas Maduro
Starting point is 01:13:45 I would prefer we have that over war how about this uh if there is a war to be had Israel and Iran here's what we do you choose a champion Israel choose a champion and we put them in a gladiators ring and then this determines the outcome of the conflict it's like the first scene in the movie Troy right right let Right. Let's not have this war. You choose your champion. We'll choose our champion. Yeah, it's good. I mean, I'm down for that. And they got the big brute dude,
Starting point is 01:14:09 and then Brad Pitt takes his armor off and just starts running. Running right at him. Dude, that movie's great. Love that. We can get Mark Zuckerberg involved. Yeah, do they have to bring seconds to this? Does Elon bring Mark Zuckerberg?
Starting point is 01:14:22 Who would Maduro bring? I don't know. Who's running Cuba? Mark Zuckerberg should be Elon Musk's second. Right. So who would Maduro bring? It should be the Brazil guy. Who's the Brazil guy? Oh, that's not Lula, is it? Bolsonaro?
Starting point is 01:14:38 Yeah, Lula. It should be Lula. But he's so old. Look, we didn't say it was a good second. Not that any of them were. Then Mark Zuckerberg. What's the second? The second is just there to prepare you, right? But he's so old. Look, we didn't say it was a good second. Not that any of them were. Then Mark Zuckerberg. What's the second? The second is just there to prepare you, right? Tag team.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Loja Pistol. And to negotiate. No, this is fisticuffs. No, it's there so that when Elon's getting tired, he runs over and he tags Zuckerberg. And then Zuckerberg jumps in. A combo of dueling and like, what is that? Mexican wrestling lucha or whatever? I would take Mark Zuckerberg or I'd take
Starting point is 01:15:06 Hulk Hogan as Elon Musk's second. Elon, if you're listening, I'm totally open to being your second. I've got a lot of experience. Imagine if you had like an MMA Elon Musk versus Maduro, how expensive those tickets would be? Like legit, like $20,000
Starting point is 01:15:22 a ticket. I mean, that's what it costs to go to the Super Bowl. It would probably be a million dollars. Wow I'd have to go. You'd have to go. If they were just like we're gonna do it in Vegas. You'd have to go. Maduro gets diplomatic protections and like could you imagine Maduro like walking into the octagon
Starting point is 01:15:38 and he's got like his own watch. Bruce Buffer it's time. How old are they already? Maduro looks old. Maduro's in his 50s. Hey, man, Maduro's a bus driver. That means he's tough, like Ralph Cramden. Yeah, no, and I sincerely mean this, all credit to Maduro.
Starting point is 01:15:55 He was not some uppity political class, country club, golf swinging guy. He's 75 years old. Okay. All right, I think Elon's got it. I think he's got it. That's why Elon checked his age before he accepted. He's like years old. Okay. I think Elon's got it. I think he's got it. That's why Elon checked his age before he accepted and he's like, I'm good with this. Oh my gosh, wouldn't that be amazing?
Starting point is 01:16:11 Oh boy. This is the current state of geopolitics. We have Iran ordering a retaliation strike on Israel, which we're freaked out about. And then you have Elon and Maduro having a flame war. You know what's actually interesting is I remember this is the first time.
Starting point is 01:16:27 This is, I think, 2014. It was Operation Protective Edge, Israel and Hamas. The Al-Qassam brigades were launching missiles into Israel. And Israel was, of course, Iron Dome, and there was some retaliation. And then the Al-Qassam brigades on Twitter at the time it was Twitter were tweeting like you know by the glory of Allah we will destroy you and wipe you from the map and then the IDF responded to them being like you can try but you'll never succeed and then they went back and forth several times and then I'm sitting in this room with a bunch of journalists and they're and someone just like guys I think this
Starting point is 01:17:02 is the first actual flame war in a war. Yeah, a real Twitter war. Like, they're actually, they actually mean it. It's a war. And then, in all seriousness, which was crazy, was it was one of the first times we got video footage of both sides of the conflict. So you had, I think this may have been Gaza. The Hamas put GoPros on their guns, and Israel put GoPros on their APCs. And then when the footage got uploaded, people compiled it, and you could actually see both sides reported.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Yeah, and now that's just what you do. I watch updates on the war in Ukraine twice a day, and that's all it is, is FPV videos of people getting drone bombed. Everything's live now. It's a totally different world. People keep saying to pull up the Trump water video. That's yeah. Where he screws the, tightens the water bottle cap.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Right, right. I can't wait till the article where it's like, that was a microaggression. Oh, for sure. Yeah. For sure.
Starting point is 01:18:03 That, yeah. What, what is that? He doesn't drink from it. He grabs the water, he tightens the cap, and puts it back on the table. All right, let me pull this up. We got nuance, bro.
Starting point is 01:18:14 I don't know what it was for. Yeah, it legit looks like he grabs her water bottle. He tightens it down. Did he really tighten it? So, what I wanted to say was the last time we spoke, you said some words that were perfect. I don't know. I will say, there is a moment. Maybe he tried to crack.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Maybe he realized the cap wasn't cracked, and then he realized it wasn't his water and put it back. Or, like, he didn't realize which water bottle was his. Yeah. He's been up there for a while. He reaches for it, but then the lady is clearly asking a question, and he's like, instead of taking a drink, I'm going to put a water bottle, like put this down. I like the idea that he just tightened it to see if she would be able to open it later better,
Starting point is 01:18:54 but I don't actually think that's what this is. Yeah, no, I don't think so. Yeah, he should bring a mayonnaise jar to the debate and just hand it to Kamala and say, all right, you're going to open this for me. Just answer open pickle jar. She's answering, you just hear the click all the time. Yeah, some people say it looks like he's loosening the water bottle, but people keep
Starting point is 01:19:11 messaging being like, pull the video, pull the video up. What if he was loosening it for her? What if she had tried to open it, couldn't, so he's actually being a gentleman. We'd never hear that story. I much preferred the story that I was told, that he grabbed it and tightened it as hard as he could so she couldn't get it and then put it back. I'm going to go with that.
Starting point is 01:19:28 It's not what happened. It's not what happened. Donald Trump has many things, but he is not that. I wish he was. Imagine being so petty. That'd be great. Anyway, I guess we're not doing—no one really expects Elon Musk to fight Maduro. We're just wasting time by talking about two people who are insulting each other on the internet,
Starting point is 01:19:48 which is, well, the everyday. And I mean, it's kind of, I mean, it is a real serious situation going on in Venezuela too. I mean, it's sort of washing over the top of all that. Look at that, there's election rigging going on and people are getting shot in the street and Venezuelans can't defend themselves.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Well, I think that's what you get. If you can't defend your vote, then you have nothing. And if the government has all the guns, then eventually election rigging is going to happen. I mean, look at how much corruption there is in government, because there's really no oversight. It's easy to get away with uh imagine if they could get away with rigging elections and know that there's no recourse for the public to do anything about it well let's uh let's jump to this we have this tweet from david marcus
Starting point is 01:20:36 he says i am crossing the rubicon and backing the republican party and president trump many including a former version of myself get trapped in a mental framework that becomes their identity and prevents them from radically evolving their thinking with new facts and information i finally broke free from it my journey has been gradual political 180 from where i stood in every previous election it has been an eye-opening process of disenchantment zero basing lifelong beliefs and rebuilding it from there. I'll pause real quick before I read more. David Marcus, CEO and co-founder of LightSpark, opened payments on Lightning, ran payments and crypto at Messenger and Meta, led PayPal, built three startups.
Starting point is 01:21:15 So this is a Facebook PayPal guy saying he's changed his mind. He's going Donald Trump. He says, in 2017, a good friend enlisted me to pitch the DNC to raise $100 million from Silicon Valley founders and executives. The aim was to use these funds and know how to build a CRM and tech platform to prevent a repeat of Hillary Clinton's inadequate, outdated 2016 campaign. We met with DNC leadership who told us we could raise that money, but it would have to go to the general fund. A single-digit percentage would then be allocated to tech in the wake of one of the most shocking failures. They didn't want to help. The next series of realizations began in 2018 when I was at Meta. Right after we announced the Libra white paper, I testified
Starting point is 01:21:54 before the Senate and the House and subsequently spent significant time in D.C. engaging with lawmakers, cabinet members. At the time, I still believed the mainstream idea that Democrats were all about serving the people. However, I was shocked to learn that for the most part, Republicans cared more deeply about their constituents while Democrats, in my experience, cared more about government power and control. This is my observation on balance with many stories to back it up. I also found that more Republicans wanted to understand our project's goals and took the time to learn about the risks of censoring payments and controlling the network. I found myself remarkably aligned with them. Then COVID came. I'm going to skip over. I don't want to read his entire, you know, it looks like maybe a thousand words. He says some claim that reelecting President
Starting point is 01:22:33 Trump will bring our democracy to its knees. However, the alternative, having unelected individuals with this much power and no accountability run our government coupled with four more years of bad policies at home and abroad might present a more significant threat. Neither will likely change in a Harris administration and could potentially worsen. In this pivotal moment, confronted with the choices we have, I am endorsing and supporting a return to a Republican administration in 2025. Silicon Valley, my friends, and we've seen with Elon Musk is going MAGA. I think it's really interesting what he says, zero basing lifelong beliefs, the eye opening process of disenchantment, zero basing lifelong beliefs and rebuilding from there. Because I think that a lot of times what happens is people are not open minded know what you believe and why you believe it and to interrogate the foundations of your beliefs so that you know at all times what it is that you think and why you think it. And that way you are ruling your ideas as opposed to being ruled by them.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Yeah. I think people often are critical of how they came to the conclusions. And this is like any political or religious or whatever belief, they sort of just roll with it or they take bad information and then build their lives around it without really thinking about why. And, you know, Silicon Valley is so fascinating because I think for whatever reason, maybe just because in California, so many people just kind of assumed it was left. It had to be, you know, a democratic stronghold when, you know, really it's a center for entrepreneurial spirit and energy. They probably have a lot of contact with the federal government that's very unpleasant. And, you know, a lot of our trade policies, a lot of our, you know, national security issues really impacted that industry in particularly. And so it's interesting to have someone come out and say, like, I was sort of default this way and I had to reevaluate why. And I think probably a lot of people do that all the time in their lives, but definitely during the last 10 years. But what does this mean for us? When Silicon Valley begins to flip, Mark Zuckerberg said
Starting point is 01:24:40 Trump looked badass. We know that Facebook censored that image. But are we going to see perhaps closer to the to the election Silicon Valley realigning behind Trump for a variety of reasons? For one, if they do believe Trump is going to win, they're going to hedge their bets and they're going to go to Donald Trump and they're going to go to his allies and say, do not destroy our company. When you win, what do you what do you want? And so basically these people just are pouring in and lining up behind Trump for that reason. Yeah, and I think that's something that the right has suffered from is a lack of tech. They don't really have a lot of exposure. And maybe that's another reason that they see, well, this is an opportunity for us to actually – he's talking in there about building this CRM tech platform for Hillary's campaign and how it was
Starting point is 01:25:25 outdated. I think the Republicans suffer from that much more. And so as a business opportunity, there's probably more money to be made from them approaching the right and saying, look, you guys are way out of date. You know, your email lists suck. You don't need us. Yeah. You need us as much as maybe we think we need you to pass the right kind of policy so we can make some money on this by reinventing you a new platform to be able to reach your potential voters. And at the same time, they see the political winds shifting. So maybe it's going to work out better for them to switch. I'm not sure that that'll happen on the grander scale. And it's a cascade effect. They feel Trump's going to win the polling favors him. So
Starting point is 01:26:09 they start lining up behind them, which gives him the, the, the groundswell gives him the tech advantage. And then Trump wins because they want the influence as well. And they've been donating to him. They had that big fundraiser in June. Uh, you know, it was like Biden had the LA Hollywood fundraiser, but Trump had the Silicon Valley tech fundraiser. I would rather have the tech fundraiser also because Hollywood turned on him so fast. Like those are some fair weather friends. Yep. Should be interesting.
Starting point is 01:26:37 But I think the bigger question ultimately is just we don't even know who the Democrat nominee is. And we are 97 days out from the election. So that should all come together basically next week, right? Isn't the Ohio deadline August 7th? I mean, they're supposed to have this virtual roll call. Yeah, when's that supposed to be? That's supposed to be pretty soon.
Starting point is 01:26:56 And they keep saying that, oh, this was planned since May. But I think it's pretty... I think that whole thing is pretty fake because what they want to avoid is some kind of floor fight. Yeah. And if it's planned since May, give me the specific date. They've been shifting around. It was planned.
Starting point is 01:27:09 It was planned because we covered the story. Right. Because Biden wasn't going to be on the ballot in Ohio because of it. But I think it was preplanned before that. They knew Biden was going to drop out. We had been discussing this almost a year ago. They were going to force him out. Right. I mean, I think everyone floated the idea of having it. I think it was something they thought about.
Starting point is 01:27:25 But they, you know, I don't think the DNC is as organized and strategic as, they're not moving as one unit right now. And I think there's a lot of internal fighting. They're trying. This is why they chose to have a debate. Biden didn't need to debate Trump. He didn't debate before. He hid in his basement.
Starting point is 01:27:39 They had a couple of debates back in 2020, but he didn't need to debate him. It was intentional so that they could create a public pressure and get popular support among Democrat voters so that Biden would be removed. But the reason they did it was because they don't want RFK Jr. to win the nomination. And he would have. Yeah, he would have. Yep. Yeah, he's the one who should really be pissed about this.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Well, I mean, I guess. That's what they do. I mean, they did it to Bernie Sanders previously. And could he not? Is it too late for him to try and run on the Democrat ticket? He's running as an independent. He's already got the signatures. He's saying he's going to run. He's going to stay as an independent. Well, I guess it would be too late if they know it's like rfk jr doesn't like trump fine but if it were me i would uh seek the democratic nomination on the floor win it and then a month out resign and endorse trump oh boy that's you think that rfk i mean they tried to whack trump i they i think they well they already whacked one candidate. I think they'd probably.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Well, that's why you need Secret Service protections. But RFK Jr. had that phone call with Trump where Trump asked him to endorse him. And then that wasn't supposed to be released, I guess. Was it RFK Jr.'s kid released it and then they deleted it right away? I would not be surprised if in October RFK Jrk jr announces he's endorsing donald trump because if if rfk jr goes to the democrats and says i want to to reel in these corporations that are putting environmental toxins in our food and our medicines etc they're going to say screw off we know who butters our bread if he goes to trump and says trump's going to be like okay deal i want to win yeah and we'll figure it out and rfk jr is going to be like, OK, deal. I want to win. Yeah. And we'll figure
Starting point is 01:29:25 it out. And our future is going to be like, let's roll. If if and like, you know, it really is crazy to me. The paths to victory for Trump, even in 2020, because this is what I said, if Trump appointed Tulsi Gabbard to national security adviser in the last year of his term and then and then asked Andrew Yang to be an economic advisor, he would have gotten such tremendous support from independents, post-liberals, and even many Democrats, and a lot of conservatives, too. But he didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 01:29:54 He wanted to play the traditional route. I mean, he picked Pence. He really thought he was playing ball. He thought he was going in, he was going to play ball with the machine, but he was president, he gets his say, and the intelligence agencies told him, no, we're going to tell you what to do and he said no thank
Starting point is 01:30:06 you i have promises to keep and then so they accuse him of being a spy working for russia let's say he gets elected do you think that's what he'll do this time do you think he'll he'll uh now make more it'll be better aggressive cabinet picks yes more aggressive but far from what we hope yeah you know i look you've got a got a lot of right-leaning libertarian types who are hoping he's going to go and schedule left, just fire all these people, and he'll fire some. It'll be a slow process. We'll get trickle—the news will trickle out over a couple years of, like, various people being fired, and you mostly won't hear much, but a good amount of people will probably get fired from these bureaucratic positions. And it's not going to be crazy. There's not going to be military tribunals.
Starting point is 01:30:47 There's not going to be Insurrection Act. It's going to be, we already saw what a Trump term looks like. This one will be slightly better. He's not going to try and play ball early on. But we saw what Trump did after he fired Bolton and stopped playing ball with these people. It was still just a marginally good presidency with peace agreements, timelines for withdrawal from foreign countries. The economy was doing pretty well until COVID.
Starting point is 01:31:07 And that's it. That's it. Illegal immigration was pretty low as well. Yeah, there were a lot of encounters. But the scary thing is when you see when you check the amount of encounters from the border, that's because we're trying to stop them. Right. When you're not trying to stop them, the numbers go down. Right.
Starting point is 01:31:23 We just missed them. All right, everybody. We're going to go to a super chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel. One like equals one not our war. And let's see how that one plays, because I do not want to be involved in more conflicts in the Middle East. We are America.
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Starting point is 01:32:08 heated. For now, though, go to TimCast.com, click Join Us, and we'll read your Super Chats. Polly Piret says, I hope I'm first, and indeed you are! Congratulations. Robert Delacruz says, first, incorrect. You lose. Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Dadpool says, good name, by the way, would Timcast sponsor veterans trying to get hobbies instead of the easy way out? We need extra help and a way to reach out besides mental health help. I don't know that we could do anything. I mean, we're not prepared for anything like that. There's probably a lot of organizations that we could partner with and promote to help fund. But I don't know. Maybe a skating event.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Yeah, Snake Farm. Shout out to Snake Farm Skateboards. They're a very veteran-oriented skateboard company. I don't know their full company message or whatever, but we're friends with Cody, Julia, Chad. And that's Snake Farm. I agree with them. Part of the problem with veteran mental health is a lot of them just want to get
Starting point is 01:33:12 out of the house and be around other people and do something that gets their mind off what's going on. We've sponsored a group in Michigan for a little while that was doing some shooting events for the same reason. It's something that they're already interested in,
Starting point is 01:33:28 but it's getting them out, getting them around other men, people to talk to, you know, indirectly about their problems rather than trying to sit down in front of some counselor and yeah, anything that they can do to be more active is a great idea. Check out snakefarmco.com because we're good friends with these guys and it's veteran-oriented.
Starting point is 01:33:50 I think the website's mostly clothing, but I wonder if they have their skateboards up because it's a skateboard company too. That's how I know them. Sometimes I think it's hard for people to find all these resources. There are a lot of people doing really great specific work that have a lot of options.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Hard to find. Yeah, and I think for generally, my observational anecdotal experience has just been that transitioning out of the military work that have a lot of options but uh hard to find yeah and i think for generally you know my observational anecdotal experience has just been that transitioning out of the military is not as easy as anyone thinks about it you know i think it's actually very difficult and for a lot of people especially who are you know been for a while who have had these specific careers like translating your experience to the outside world is complicated. So part of it is just, I wish there were, there's like an encyclopedia or a go-to place where it could be like,
Starting point is 01:34:29 I'm a veteran, I'm looking for this kind of support, or I have these kinds of interests, or I need, you know, whatever. Because so often it's just, you know, you Google search forever, but you're not connected to what you need. All right. Marodney says, can I get a shout out for my birthday tomorrow? Currently celebrating that and my three-month sobriety by having a couple glasses of whiskey. Oof. Back to sobriety tomorrow and the gym next week. So long as you but they decided just to stop drinking, then it's no big deal if you're like, well, I've had a drink for three months, but I'll have some tonight. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:35:10 But certainly I hope that you're not fighting for sobriety and deciding to take the night off. You should not do that. Yeah, I would agree. But anyway, happy birthday. Happy birthday. Titan Soap says, is anyone buying the rebranding of Kamala? Yes, they are. Welcome to American politics.
Starting point is 01:35:26 I mean, you look at the rally and you've got all the people behind her and they're all cheering and hooting her on. And it's like, man, it's really crazy. If you went to the average Democrat and actually showed them real news, I'm sure they would experience physical pain. It's from the cognitive dissonance. Because a good example, Politico reported that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election to help Hillary Clinton. And Politico reported a few years later that it was actually Russian disinformation that Ukraine interfered in the election to help Hillary Clinton. So Politico is Russian disinformation. That's not to say that showing someone this story makes them support trump it shows them that what they think is true is false false yeah i had a conversation with a
Starting point is 01:36:09 a woman at uh the yoga studio i go to definitely on the left uh i would say she's would probably describe herself as a communist actually and we were just chatting outside and we uh started talking about kyle rittenhouse and it was just crazy to me how it was. We had a good conversation about it. We're, we're, we're good friends, but you know,
Starting point is 01:36:34 the perception, oh, well, he shot a bunch of black people. He shot this woman. It's like, well, hold on a second.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Where did, where did you get that? I mean, this, and this has been, this is like old news. And this has been around for years. You could have looked at this any time you want, but...
Starting point is 01:36:47 Lurch685 says, Iran has hypersonic missiles and FAFO. So let me give you the quick breakdown for hypersonic missiles. All ICBMs are hypersonic. The issue, however, is that when they're talking about hypersonics, they're talking about
Starting point is 01:37:01 missiles that stay closer to the ground, which gives much less time for radar to detect. So the way you can think about it is here's the curvature of the earth. And if the radar is pointing up here and you fire an ICBM, oh, we can see you, baby. We can see you in the sky. But if you've got a hypersonic close to the ground, it's going to get real close to you before you notice it's there. And then how do you defend? That's a scary thing. Yeah, I'm not sure about that. I think there's a lot of debate whether it's true, you know, hypersonic is such a new technology that every country is claiming they've got hypersonic missiles. But, you know, even Russia, some of the missiles that they say are hypersonic,
Starting point is 01:37:38 they are to some degree at certain points of the trajectory, but not all the way. So I would be shocked to see iran investing that much money into hypersonic missiles when they could be producing tens of thousands of low-cost drones that fly you know for two miles an hour but it's it's you know volume in saturation you can't shoot the the iron dome is great they don't have enough missiles to shoot down ten thousand ron and and that's the end of the and also the even the consumer weaponized consumer grade
Starting point is 01:38:06 drones right you see the eight for use in ukraine these are small uh... small drones that can carry a couple kilograms and they can put explosives on it that warfare is getting crazy the three printing them in the field you can have i'm friends with uh... couple guys that three print guns they three print uh... uh... small fpv racing drones and these things can fly 50 60 miles an hour and yeah they don't carry a ton but you know one pound of c4 can do a whole lot of
Starting point is 01:38:32 damage and we'll watch those those ukrainian videos are out like they're everywhere they're horrifying dude yeah this is why i'm just i'm pissed off the u.s is involved in this stuff because i don't even want we'll save it for the members only because i don't want to start describing these things on yeah watch military summary channel on youtube and you'll see as much of that as you'll ever need to you'll get some interesting updates on ukraine maybe from a pro-russian perspective but that's sort of counter to what you see in the u.s news media that's obviously very pro-ukraine and uh it'll it'll change your mind about what you think about modern warfare for sure.
Starting point is 01:39:05 All right. Ben Hickson says, Tim, I saw your Civil War face-off quiz. The score at the end left me speechless, just like the best-selling book by Michael Knowles. That was a whole lot of fun. Michael and I, it was really funny because I got caught off guard. They asked me if I want to do a Civil War thing, and I was like, I don't know. I mean, if he's preparing for it, I mean, and you guys are setting it up, I'll just lose, but sure, we'll roll. And then the first question was,
Starting point is 01:39:33 was it who killed, what, like, I can't remember, Mary, I don't know Tony Stark's mom's name, but Howard Stark, to start the events of Avengers Civil War. And then I just laughed. And it actually caught me off guard. And I froze for a second. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, Bucky Barnes, the Winter Soldier. And I was like, I did not expect that question.
Starting point is 01:39:52 I'm like listening to him. I'm wondering if the first question is going to be, what was the nickname of the man who led the march to the sea? And then I'm waiting for some. And then it's an Avengers question. And then he had a couple other, they had a couple other silly ones, but it was ultimately pretty good. However, I must stress, as many people pointed out, there was a couple instances where casualty and deaths were confused. And I believe he asked what was the deadliest battle, and it
Starting point is 01:40:19 was Gettysburg, and he said 50,000 dead. I think that's what the comment said. And it was 8,000 dead. And 50,000 casualties. And then I said that I thought it was like 1.8 million dead. But I mixed up casualties in my answer. Because it was 1.6 something million casualties in the Civil War. Which is captured, wounded, or dead.
Starting point is 01:40:41 But other than that, it was great fun. And then at the end did we did double or nothing and uh i won and michael lost so it was the score was 22 to 0 i believe wow yeah it was funny because the last question was in their hit single uh together again by smoky mike and the god king what was the original runtime and i i i knew the answer was around five minutes. And then Michael's like, that's not fair. He worked on the cover song. So he's like, he knows the runtime.
Starting point is 01:41:11 And I'm like, you wrote the song. You picked the game. Yeah. But it's his song. He wrote it. Yeah. So that was a lot of fun. Guys, check that out.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Because it was actually really informative and really fun. And there are some funny moments. People like that I drew a picture of a cat. And I did. All right. Larch says, there was no strike in Israel. Golan Heights is occupied Syrian territory.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Well, okay. John Kristen says, in a world where normal is weird, be a rebel and be weird. There's no normal. It's just like, I don't know, man, be you. Do your thing, and do it with confidence.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Because the example I like to give is, in high school, there are two people. One guy farts, and then looks around and is embarrassed, and then people point him out and say, ah, look, he farted, and they start laughing. No, I didn't. Shut up. I didn't fart. The other guy leans back and goes, hey, guys, check this out, and then intentionally farts and laughs about it.
Starting point is 01:42:06 And they go, oh, you're a dick. Two people who did the same thing. One guy owned it and laughed about it. And it's interesting because I try to use the silliest way to describe this. But the real difference is an individual who is ashamed and an individual who is proud. Like, look, dude, everybody farts. Grow up. Cry about it.
Starting point is 01:42:25 You choose to be embarrassed or not. You want to live every day proud of who you are and what you do. And if someone insults you, you can be like, well, that's what I am, I guess. All I can really do is wake up, go to work, buy food, and take care of business. So that's just me.
Starting point is 01:42:39 They want to come out and be like, Trump's weird. I'd be like, okay. I guess weird is good because I like Trump. Good weird. Let's roll. I'd be like, okay. I guess weird is good, because I like Trump. Good weird. Let's roll. Grofty says, Phoenix Ammunition,
Starting point is 01:42:52 thanks for being on Public Square, and thank you for the delivery. You're welcome. I love Public Square. I've had many good conversations with Michael. They've got a lot of stuff in the works I'm pretty excited about, trying to you know, ammunition is always a product that's tough to sell on the Internet. And there's a lot of rules, a lot of regulations, but they're really working hard to make Public Square be the place for gun companies that Amazon never will be.
Starting point is 01:43:17 So I'm really excited to see what he's going to do. That's interesting. He actually called me when he was at the RNC convention, and him and I are going to get together. I'm not sure how much I'm actually able to say, but anyway, he has some great ideas. He wanted us to take a look at it, and I'm super excited to work with those guys.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Good things in the works. We'll leave it at that. Cristiano says, Judge Joe Brown says, Kamala ain't black. They're dropping savage clips from the interview over on the Art of Dialogue channel. joe brown's great watch his interview on um the pbd podcast it's great i saw an interview i think it was um it probably was nbc they had sent a reporter to talk to black men you know after she had been announced as the presumptive heir apparent to the to the biden campaign i guess and uh you know it
Starting point is 01:44:05 was clearly interviewed or was caught off guard because he asked him he's like so so you know now that biden is out will you support kamala harris like expecting it to be yes and all of them are like no there's five different guys they're like no and he's like who are you gonna support and they're like donald trump uh i think there is sort of an expectation that everybody fall in line with this campaign, but I don't think she's as appealing as they clearly are hoping she will suddenly become. She hasn't ever been appealing. Yeah. I think we're going to be surprised. She wasn't in second place in 2020. I think we're going to be surprised at the
Starting point is 01:44:37 split of the vote between black men in particular. I think you're right. I think it'll be a reckoning to be sure, or at least a wake up call. I think it'll be a reckoning to be sure, or at least a wake-up call. I think a lot of them are going to be telling their wives they voted for Kamala and they're going to have voted for Trump. And I've had many of those conversations in the last week.
Starting point is 01:44:56 Let's grab some more. What have we here? Fat Hravski, employee of Mars here. The whole plant went down due to the crowd strike update it was a forced update normally they give it to mars then the control guys put in the virtual machine and then oh interesting do you mean like mars candy bars yeah probably yeah mars incorporated employee of mars mars inc they make all of your favorite candy bars. What does Mars have? Milky Way?
Starting point is 01:45:28 They make Snickers. Yeah, I think, you know, at the top, there's probably only like two or three actual companies. Yeah, because there's Hershey's and there's Mars. Nestle. Nestle. Nestle. Can I just stop real quick to let everyone just stew on how weird a candy bar is? I do not remember the last time I ate a candy bar. What's weird about it?
Starting point is 01:45:49 Okay, a piece of candy, I understand. Like those Lindor truffles. It is a small ball of chocolate, and you eat it. It's one bite, and it is a treat. A candy bar is an amalgam, a large one, of sugar and sugar and sugar mashed into a, like calorie bar and i just think that's kind of strange you don't think snickers really satisfies i think it satisfies your sugar
Starting point is 01:46:13 craving yeah like well it's got peanuts in there i mean in college i honestly uh there were times where i was up late uh studying and peanut m&ms were like the perfect combination of sugar and protein. I don't mind so much an M&M though. It's not a candy bar. M&M is one thing and you can choose to eat like three or four of them or eat a whole bag. I just think like a candy bar is a block of sugar and caramel and
Starting point is 01:46:38 I'm just like that's kind of strange. It's a weird snack. Is it stranger than going to Starbucks and getting a triple whatever. What is the than going to Starbucks and getting a triple whatever? What is the caramel? Which has 180 grams. I saw a video on Twitter where they showed they scooped sugar into a cup next to the actual Starbucks
Starting point is 01:46:53 drink. And I mean, it was almost two-thirds full. It's a liquid candy bar. Liquid candy bar. It's more than that. The caramel frappuccino is just pure insanity. They like pour caramel on the bottom, then they line it with caramel, then they fill it with a sugary milk drink. There's no coffee in it.
Starting point is 01:47:12 No. Yeah, because the caramel drizzle one is like, and they take sugar crystal crumbles and they mix it all in. Have you guys seen the like, it'll be like a, you know, Instagram or TikTok or whatever where they're doing a coffee drink at home and they pour caramel on chocolate or chocolate on the outside of the glass. Have you guys seen this? On the outside?
Starting point is 01:47:32 And they pour it on the outside of the glass. And then they like. Yeah. But it's like, meanwhile. It's like the salt on the margarita. Yeah. But it's not like the salt on the margarita. No.
Starting point is 01:47:41 I mean, they drizzle the outside of the glass. Oh, the whole glass? I ain't touching that. No, I mean they drizzle the outside of the glass. Oh, the whole glass? I ain't touching that. No, it's disgusting and weird. And it's always somebody with like really long fingernails. Hey, easy with weird. That's some like ASMR going on. I thought we didn't care about weird. The other day for breakfast, I make
Starting point is 01:47:57 an oat flour pancake with I mix in some oatmeal, have some butter on it and a protein shake. And then I don't have lunch. And then for dinner, I had carne asada. It was just like thin steak with rice and beans. It was delicious. And I felt great.
Starting point is 01:48:12 And then I had a protein shake later at night. And when I went to bed, it was the first time I've got two fitness trackers, and they both gave me a perfect score. It was just like whatever you did. And I was like I ate light low sodium meat rice and beans and didn't eat garbage yeah and i usually don't eat like tons of garbage but always just like a little bit you know it's like there's always something in there but this one day and i'm just like man i don't think people realize how bad they feel because they've eat they eat
Starting point is 01:48:40 the stuff all day every day yeah yeah i think that, I think that's a thing, too. Yeah, I'm pretty careful about what I eat. And I don't think we are always honest about, like, what it is we're eating. Because what I'm thinking of right now is when I was growing up, fruit by the foot was, like, the cool thing, right? Like, you wanted your mom to buy that. My mom never did. And put it in your lunchbox. And I'm pretty sure it was sold next to, like, fruit snacks that like Mott's or Welch's sells now. But I was in a gas station the other day and they're selling the fruit by the foot with the candy now.
Starting point is 01:49:11 So I'm just saying it was always candy. It's just eventually someone was like, OK, either this product dies or we call it what it is. Right. And I think that happens to a lot of people. Like, you know, all kinds of fad products will be like, oh, you have to eat this cereal. It's great. And then you read the ingredients or become more aware of what it is. And it's not good. I'm not sure that Mars is a reference to the candy bar company.
Starting point is 01:49:33 But I don't know what else it could be. So, you know, there you go. Who knows? Let's grab some more. John Maxwell says, what would you all order from Chili's? The only thing I'd ever order from Chili's when I worked for O'Hare Airport, we had a Chili's to-go right above where we worked. And I just ordered French fries. I haven't been to a Chili's in so long.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Do they have the, they used to have, I think they had what they called tostada nachos. It was like basically big nachos, like, you know, only like maybe 10 of them, but they were piled up. I think that's probably the only thing I can name. Yeah. Chilies. I can't think of what I'd order out of Chili's. But, you know, I know from Applebee's, like I've gotten their burgers and stuff and it's totally fine.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Chili's. I do remember when Chili's was doing their like margarita promotion where it was like $5 Rita's, but they're mostly water. Are they, is Chili's the Funyuns? Not the Funyuns, Not the Funyuns. The Bloomin' Onion. No, that's a back steakhouse. Okay.
Starting point is 01:50:29 I think everybody does. Traditional Australian cuisine. Exactly. Just like they made it at home. You know, I don't eat fast food except Taco Bell. You're a big Taco Bell guy. Rarely. I think I've had Taco Bell three times.
Starting point is 01:50:45 No, maybe five times this year. Because there was one period where we had it like two times that we ordered it for everybody early in the year. But I think maybe five times this year I've had Taco Bell. And that's the only thing. You count Five Guys as fast food? Yeah. Okay. Well, I eat Five Guys every Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:50:59 It's not the worst. You know, they're pretty good. I've had Five Guys maybe five times this year as well. And it is fast food. So, so fair point i do have fast food but but i i think the only big problem with it is the salt's too much i don't think people realize how much the salt really messes you up salt yeah see i kind of the opposite i think people don't eat enough salt i find if i i actually put salt in my water most of the time i mean i you know there are days where i work out twice a day so you're losing a lot of salt and potassium. So maybe for your average person, it's not working
Starting point is 01:51:27 out very much. Oh dude, a McDonald's cheeseburger is what, 48% of your daily sodium intake? Yeah. I could be wrong. Don't get mad McDonald's, but something. But who decided that that was the right number? The same people that created the food pyramid? Uh, well, I'll put it this way. I, I started paying attention to the amount of salt in my food because it was messing me up. Yeah. I'm just like tired all the time. Dehydrated all the time. Cause everything's got so much salt in it.
Starting point is 01:51:50 And I'm like, just don't put salt in my, my food, man. I'll get, I'll drink a coconut water or something. I'll get my salt where I need to get it. But everything's loaded with salt. Heat fried, covered in oil and bread and salt. Not if you just cook all your own food. I mean, I even make like, I even make my own junk food. I'll make pizza or I'll make birria tacos or I make different.
Starting point is 01:52:11 Because after we left New York and there's not a lot of takeout options, so I started learning how to make a lot of takeout options. So I'll make my own ramen, whatever it is. I put a full tablespoon of salt in my sourdough bread and it's good and salty and it's great. Yeah, but that's I just mean like you go out to eat. Everything's loaded with salt, like to an insane degree. Yeah, at restaurants for sure. All right.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Micah Johnson says, Tim, was the Casper discount forever? I bought together again, thought it included a lifetime discount. Great coffee. Greatest podcast. God bless. Yes, it did and so if something happened send an email uh to casper to make sure it's it's still functioning the challenge is it's hard to track who like hard to track although we like if you bought together again you should have a permanent discount only if i think you had to i think what it was is you had to use
Starting point is 01:53:08 the uh subscribe the discount was good for like a certain amount of time but if you subscribed to a coffee with the discount the discount applied your subscription forever and what i what was supposed to happen is if you ended the subscription but then restarted it later the uh the discount would still apply but if you bought product at the discount then came back three months later it wouldn't work so it was like yeah you had to subscribe there you go all right all right uh elegant news says trump should apologize for having dinner with white supremacist kanye when she brought that up it should have been like well you know that was uh that was yay they should have said what are you guys talking about and uh you know he and and so i'm sorry
Starting point is 01:53:53 that he came uh i thought he was a great guy but apparently you don't like him so i apologize he called him yay jh251 says they said that biden was running for president he dropped that after the debate who's to say that kamala won't do the same thing trump wants to make sure the debate is with the real democrat candidate no i agree don't even know i think it'd be so late i mean let's say they well they can't get on the ballots yeah they wouldn't be able to get on the ballots i don't think well it's like when people were saying or ron mcdaniel was like trump shouldn't skip the the primary debates that's ridiculous and he needs to do this and actually the reality was like he didn't need to do do that at all he was polling way ahead and you know it only served to benefit them i think it's similar with the debates right now like acknowledging kamala before
Starting point is 01:54:41 she is officially like at least people cast ballots for Biden. Right. No one's cast a ballot in favor of Harris being the presidential candidate for the Democrats. Agreeing to a debate right now, especially if they're going to, you know, roll call, nominate her next week. It only serves to make her seem like a legitimate challenger, which they're desperately trying to make her legitimate as fast as possible. Alcery says, actually, Kamala isn't even part Jamaican. Her mother is Indian, and her father stated he's Irish and Indian that came from Jamaica, not indigenous Jamaican.
Starting point is 01:55:11 He just lived his life in a British colony. Is that true? I've heard that she... I had heard that before. Her family has ties to the slave trade in Jamaica, but I don't know her background. Irish slave trade. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:23 Is that true? Yeah. Wow. Or like Great Great Something was, Irish slave trade. Yeah. That true? Yeah. Wow. Or like Great Great Something was an Irish slave trader. I want to say they were talking about that back when she was running in the primary back in 2020. That was one of the arguments. Now, I'll tell you, I don't care about any of that, but woke
Starting point is 01:55:38 people sure do. Sure. So let's see what they think when they find out that their champion, who they've always loved and supported and who was their favorite person ever, and they all voted for. I'm kidding. Nobody voted for her. Nobody likes her. So I'm pretty sure nobody will care. They'll just be like,
Starting point is 01:55:53 yeah, we don't like her either. And it's like, okay. Bill Huckstraw says, the weird branding amongst everyone could possibly be the one thing that could be used as a unifying method. I agree. Trump should come out and say, like, keep it weird. Keep it weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:08 Keep it weird. I mean, if he just came out and he was like, we don't like the boring status quo, deep state, uniparty. No, we're weird. I just feel like you should be like, is weird the best you've got? Like, that's your big claim to fame that we're weird? Sorry. Yeah, I mean, weird is cool. That's why I was saying, like,
Starting point is 01:56:27 if the Democrats were like, hey, you're weird, I'd go, oh. How about that? I mean, some of the most fun stuff I've ever done is things people would consider weird. My brother actually got into this thing called straight lining. The idea is you want to go
Starting point is 01:56:40 from one side of your city to the other in a perfectly straight line, and then they score you. So you basically plot a path, and then they have different levels. Gold level is you can only deviate 20 meters from the line you choose. So if you choose a line that goes through a swamp, you're screwed. What is that building? You're screwed.
Starting point is 01:56:59 You picked a bad line. So silver, I think, is 40 meters. Bronze is like 60. But he has an app he actually did it um he's got it on youtube he did it through novai uh i think a week and a half ago and i think he achieved the silver level but it was pretty tough i mean he was in a swamp like up to his waist at one point because what city novai where where we live and you know where our factory is but um you know yeah he had to get around some buildings.
Starting point is 01:57:25 But part of it is choosing the right line. You've got to look at it from Google Earth, and you can't see all that. The swamp that he had to walk through just looked like a green patch in the woods. And your phone, your GPS tracks your... Yeah, he's got his app on his phone, and he had a GPS with him. And he's got it all on there. You can see the line, and you can see where he deviated. You have to walk.
Starting point is 01:57:44 Yeah, you have to walk. No tools? Well, you could use, like, he didn't bring his trekking poles, and that was a mistake he decided, but yeah. Bring stilts to walk in this one. Yeah, he started at, I think, 4.30 in the morning because he had to walk through some residential areas and didn't want to be walking through people's yards
Starting point is 01:57:58 in, like, full camo dress, you know, like, at 10 o'clock when everybody's getting into their cars. But, yeah, that's awesome. That's weird, and it's cool as hell. It's fun. All right. James Garlic says, Tim, from your morning live show, I must say, of course, a half Asian would do math during a bar fight.
Starting point is 01:58:18 LOL, love you, man. The point I was making was that someone said something like, if you get punched in the face, you're not going to start negotiating. I said, that's not true. It just depends on the circumstances. If someone punches you in the face and there's a clear and present danger to you and the people around you that's not desisting,
Starting point is 01:58:35 then you're going to defend yourself. But if somebody hits you, you're startled, you move back, and there is no active fight, and they put their fist down, it's probably appropriate to be like, we're ending this now before it gets out of control and i'm getting out and i said it's not like some people have ego and they're gonna be like you hit me now it's on i'm like dude i'm just thinking like i got employees i got a company if somebody hit me a lot to lose right and then
Starting point is 01:58:58 if i hit back how much do i lose in a lawsuit versus how much did he look like yeah negotiating happens when it needs to happen so that i was because what i said was the fight you win is the fight you don't get into absolutely but there's a lot of people with ego who think if someone threatens or challenges you got to fight and i'm like those people are going to lose a lot or maybe they have nothing to begin with all right let's grab a couple more a couple more superchats before we jump over to our members only show savannah says, Savannah, been watching your content for years and love Mr. Bocas Pumpkin Spice Experience.
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Starting point is 02:00:03 you go and you're like, okay, I'll get like a truffle. And, you know, you get a couple of them maybe. Somebody has to have a good YouTube documentary on like the history and the development of candy bars. Of the candy bar. Right? Because like I'm thinking peppermints were a candy, but also people felt like they had some kind of like anti-nausea medicinal purpose. How did we get to where we are? All of these things start as something else.
Starting point is 02:00:23 They were always just sweeties. Right. And so how did we get to this like are? All of these things start as something else. There were always just sweeties. Right. And so how did we get to this, like, chocolate-covered format for the candy bar? No, there's king-sized ones. Come on. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, smash that like button.
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