Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1085 Trump ASSASSINATION Body Cam PROVES Secret Service WAS WARNED w/Kyle Seraphin

Episode Date: August 9, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, & Elad are joined by Kyle Seraphin to discuss newly released bodycam footage proving police warned Secret Service about potential security risks, the FBI allowing a Trump assassination suspect who was on the terror watchlist into the country, advertising group suspending its brand safety unit after Elon Musk sued them, and Kamala Harris & Donald Trump agreeing to a debate hosted by ABC News. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Elad @EladEliahu (X) Guest: Kyle Seraphin @KyleSeraphin (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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They saw a guy with a weapon, and then they freaked out. I'm just wondering why they didn't immediately say get Trump off the stage, but, you know, whatever. And in this, we hear the police say that they warned the Secret Service well in advance that the roof needed to be covered. And so once again, another official piece of the story being dropped, which indicates, look, man, I can't tell you, okay? We've got no official story. But let's just say, once again, the Secret Service didn't do their jobs. That's the easiest way to explain it. Some might say it was an accident.

Some might say it was on purpose. But they did not do their jobs in every capacity, every step of the way, knowing the guy was there three hours in advance, one hour in advance, 26 minutes in advance, 10, 2. And even seeing a guy with a gun, not once did the Secret Service actually do their jobs. They didn't attend the security briefing. They allowed a guy to fly a drone overhead. And I will stress again, they knew he snuck in. I'm just kind of wondering what was going on. But we'll read the story and we'll take a look at what went down with this warning.

We also have major news. Elon Musk was going up against this large advertising cartel. Rumble also joined the lawsuit and they won. Now they win a lawsuit. They just filed the lawsuit. And then this this organization disbanded. So this responsible advertising group that was trying to block ads from X and Rumble no longer exists so uh big news big news and then uh donald trump will be uh debating kamala harris sure i guess that'll be fun september 10th and then another story about the fbi allowing in a man who was on the terror watch list and uh it's a lot to do with the trump assassination stuff but i want to

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day so far. Yeah. Who are you? What do you do? So I'm an FBI agent recovering status. I got kicked out of the Bureau in 2022, and I quote-unquote resigned after a year of being unpaid in 2023. I'm a federal whistleblower. I've got about 17 different whistleblowing activities, and I've been pushing the envelope against the Bureau, who don't tell us the truth, it turns out, quite a bit. And now I run a podcast, which is a very strong change from picking up dead bodies on an Indian reservation. But that's where I'm at now. Well, all right. So we've got a lot to talk about then. Thanks for hanging out. We've got a lot of hanging out. Hey, everybody. What's up? My name is Alad Eliyahu. I'm at now. Well, all right. So we've got a lot to talk about then. Thanks for hanging out. We've got a lot of hanging out.

Hey, everybody. What's up? My name is Alad Eliyahu. I'm a field reporter here at TimCast News. Hannah Clare? Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimla. I'm a writer for SCNR.com, Scanner News. Check them out at TimCast News on the internet.

Alad didn't comply with our dress code today, but we should get started anyways. What was the dress code? Alad told me he would text me and tell me what he was wearing so we could match like we did yesterday, but I guess our friendship is over. He set you up. Yeah, he did.

All right. Here's a story from NBC News. Body cam video shows moments police encounter Trump's would-be assassin. Officers saying he warned Secret Service. This is what's that's that's the crazy bit about this. New body camera footage video released Thursday by Butler Township from the day a man attempted to assassinate former President Trump shows the moment police encountered the shooter before he opened fire on the Pennsylvania crowd and includes a police officer saying he warned the Secret Service about the building vulnerability. In one of the videos, a Butler Township officer

is being hoisted onto the roof of a building near the July 13th rally minutes before Trump was set to speak. The officer appears to peek his head over the roof of a building near the July 13th rally, minutes before Trump was set to speak. The officer appears to peek his head over the roof before quickly dropping to the ground and running to a nearby police vehicle. The video shows. The shooter cannot be seen in this angle of the body cam video, and there is no audio. So I'd like to, uh, let me, oh, I'm going to read this as well. Later in the video, the officer appears to confirm the encounter, saying, F, this close, dude.

He turned right around on me. Did you notice what they said in NBC News? They said minutes before Trump was set to speak. So hold on there a minute. This officer saw a guy on a rooftop with a gun who pointed at him before Trump even got on stage, and no one stopped Trump from getting on stage. They may have the timeline wrong. It is NBC.

Fair point, fair point. They are a fake news organization. Let's just say this. With NBC News' credibility on the line, they have reported that before Trump was set to speak, this officer encountered the man with the gun on the rooftop. Here's why I say that's not true. Because if you watch the video,

the first two minutes, like a lot of body cam, it's silent, right? So it's just the video, but there's no audio. You don't get to hear it. But as the audio goes live, you hear Trump. Trump is not speaking anymore. They're scrambling and the shooter's already down. So in that two minute window, Trump was already speaking. He had to be. So I'm going to call this NBC. Oh, NBC news, fake news. That's a bad fake news right there. That's serious. That's just lazy editing. We don't hire editors anymore. Yeah.

Well, what I will say is they warned the Secret Service well in advance. That's true. We know that. So the question then is, wow, as more and more information gets released, we are left with one of the most perplexing scenarios where the only official story we have is, for some reason, the Secret Service did not do their job. Now, some might argue that it was all just pure incompetence.

But that seems strange to me that there could be so much of it. Now, don't get me wrong. I think the government's relatively incompetent quite a bit. But when people are screaming, he's got a gun on the roof, it's a bit more than incompetence. When the Secret Service doesn't come to the security briefing, when they know that this guy snuck in, when they see him three hours in advance with a range finder, one hour in advance, once again, lurking around with a range finder, where did the gun come from? How is he carrying it? How was he able to bypass all of this security?

The idea that it was pure incompetence is, you know, you can't call it a conspiracy theory in the literal sense, but in the figurative sense, it's a conspiracy theory. And I'll clarify this. People like to say that if you believe the earth is flat, it's a conspiracy. You're a conspiracy theorist. There's no flat earth conspiracy. Like two guys didn't get together to conspire to make the world flat. I got people telling me

that it's a lot of guys. All the world governments have conspired to flatten out the earth. Now, if you want to argue that NASA is lying about the earth or whatever, there's your conspiracy theory. But when you believe

that like the earth is hollow and there's dinosaurs living under it, that's just crazy. That's not a conspiracy. So what I'm saying is if we want to use conspiracy theorists in the sense, the way the media does, that anybody who challenges official narratives or whatever, then if you believe this is incompetence, you're a conspiracy theorist. First and foremost, there is no official story.

We don't know where he got the gun, how he got it up there. They're saying maybe it was collapsible or something. Maybe he got it from his dad. There's conflicting stories about whether he climbed an air conditioner or there was a ladder. We have not received an official narrative, an official story of who this guy is, what his motivation was, why he was there, how he bypassed security, why security wasn't doing their job, why Secret Service didn't pull Trump from the stage. None of it adds up. So the only thing you can do is guess. That's what I hate.

I also hate that there was so little accountability from the Secret Service. If you guys remember, I reference this all the time, but Kim Cheadle didn't do an official press conference. She didn't make a formal statement. She did an ABC interview. She was working on the sloped roof situation. She had to work out whether that was going to pull well. Well, she said, you know, the buck stops with me and the Secret Service is in charge. But actually local police was in charge of that video. I mean, she tried to throw them

under the bus immediately and shift the narrative away from her while also simultaneously trying to say, I'm the head of this organization and the buck stops with me. I think obviously it's intentional that we have no information here.

And I think that is just going to further harm American public trust, not just in the institutions, but also in other people. This cop in the body camera footage even says, how the hell could you lose a guy walking over here? He says he told the Secret Service four days in advance to post someone up there. They didn't do it. They didn't do it. So this goes back even before the rally. Secret Service was informed they needed a guy on the roof. Didn't do it. They were supposed to have a security briefing. Didn't go. They saw the guy sneak in. Didn't care. Three hours in advance, spotted a guy with a range finder. So what? An hour? So what? 26 minutes? So what? 10 minutes? So what? At two minutes, they're screaming he's

got a gun. So what? In this video, the guy's saying that, where's the other quote? He's saying, there's a, I'll only read these quotes. In the video, he jumps down and he says, F this. He then runs to his radio. Before you MF-er came out here, I put my head up like an effing idiot by myself, dude.

I was calling out, bro, on top of the roof, bro, were you on the same frequency? The SWAT team member says he was pissed that he couldn't find him. So you have a police officer. They say in another clip released Thursday, an unidentified Butler Township officer Were you on the same frequency? The SWAT team member says he was pissed that he couldn't find him. So you have a police officer. They say in another clip released Thursday, an unidentified Butler Township officer said about 10 minutes after Trump was shot that he told the Secret Service about the building's vulnerability days before the rally.

So this guy sees the guy on the roof and yells on the radio, they don't pull Trump off the stage. So now not only do we have regular people screaming, he's on the roof, he's got a gun, and Secret Service does nothing. You've got a cop saying he was calling on the radio, he's on the roof, bro on the roof. They did nothing. I'm sorry. The only thing I can say is I don't intend to go out and buy a Mega Millions ticket right now because the amount of incompetency for it were to be an accident would be the stars aligning perfectly. And I might as well just go win a billion dollars. No, I think it was intentional.

Because you've got to look at the simple solution. Did every accident in the world happen? Did every person stationed here at the Secret Service just have, like, an IQ of 70? Or were they intentionally ignoring what was going on? I'm going to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I think there were just so many levels of incompetencies that overlapped with one another. Tim mentioned a few. It was this poor communication between the local law enforcement team in Butler and the Secret Service, not knowing who was going to secure the roof of this building. What do you mean? The cops said they warned Secret Service to do it. What do you mean there's miscommunication?

Why are you making that up? No, the miscommunication was between the Secret Service who told the local PD that they should cover the roof. The police officer said four days before he instructed the Secret Service to station guys on that roof. That's the story we have right now. We can assume he's lying or we can assume it's the story we have right now. We can assume he's lying, or we can assume it's the truth. I think the safe bet we can make right now is, this is body camera footage from that day, right when they saw the shooter, before he took the shot. The guy is saying, I told them four days ago.

So I don't care about anything Kim Cheal said after the fact. This is a cop saying they were told to get a guy on the roof. Why didn't they do it? Well, you see some of why. There's no poor communication there. We actually do see some of why. And there actually is poor communication in that video. So I'll break this down. I've worked with Secret Service.

I was at Trump's inauguration in 2017. I've been in plainclothes. I've worked with Uniform Division in plainclothes and also in their uniform. So I've been at multiple State of the Unions. We've done a bunch of operations. My team was surveillance. So we would be on the ground, walking around.

The thing that people thought that was going on on January 6th or what would be the right thing for them to do, which is to basically look for people that are dropping backpacks behind a tree and leaving explosives. We would do the thing like trying to protect First Amendment civil liberties. What I saw in that clip, which I think is very salient. Number one, the guy goes up, right? He puts his head over the top of the edge. He looks over, supposedly sees the gunman. I'll believe that. The body cam doesn't show up, but there's no reason to think otherwise. Falls back down. What does he do? He sprints back to his patrol

cruiser and he gets a rifle. And he's so rattled that he's not even able to get the magazine into the rifle. I watched this a couple of times, but he's like, I mean, he's totally rattled, but here's the thing. He ran from the one place where he knew where the guy was and he went to go get a rifle, which is a thing means that he was not paying attention. He could have just laid there and covered the roof and then been there vectoring in a SWAT team. That would be a totally heads-up move. That didn't happen. And what we've also heard is that the Secret Service, and this is the most probable thing that I've ever heard,

didn't use the local PD's radios. When you work on a federal system, especially if you're traveling, because I used to do this for a living. I've been to 20 different field offices working out of other places. We never got local patrol radios. Why? It's the dumbest reason you can imagine, Tim. It's because nobody wants to take responsibility for the radio and then give it back to the other guy. So they don't take the radio. I've seen the least competency when it comes to functioning on a radio. So the comm situation, it makes sense that they're calling in, they're screaming across the tack channel that's supposed to be going to Secret Service, and at best, it's going into a relay station in a trailer somewhere and not getting out to those agents. So the delayed response, it does make sense in that case. I also agree with you that

the number of screw-ups that have to happen defy credulity at every single level because there are so many of them. The advance team has to screw up. The guy on the day decides, oh, I'm going to go take a pee. It's too hot here on the roof. I might as well sit inside. I'm going to leave this thing open. The kid somehow gets a rifle up there. He's flying the drone. There's a million screw ups there. How did we get from they spotted him with a range finder and then he had a gun? Yeah, and they hit a backpack. And here's the other thing. So the deputy assistant director dismantled and put the weapon together on the roof. You could do that. That's not that hard so i know i'm saying they haven't give us an official story the story that we heard from uh paula bait who's the deputy

director of the fbi so he's the number two first of all chris ray came in and said one thing and he was trying to push this like collapsible stock thing and you can tell that chris ray doesn't know anything about guns because he talks about it was like i don't know the difference between a rate of a semi-automatic it was only like four inches doesn't it correct now the possibility is is that he's got something like a law-tactable folding adapter. So you can actually fold that sucker down

and then you can actually knock off 12 inches. But are you telling me that a kid took a 16-inch barrel plus the entire upper, which is still, you know, it's 24 inches, it's 28 inches long,

and that was concealable? I've seen one guy. I followed one terrorist subject in my three years of doing that for full-time. I followed one terrorist subject who could conceal, carry an AR-15. How did he do it? He was 6'8 and 350 pounds, so he looked

like a WWE superhero and he could put it underneath a jacket and not look crazy. That's the only person I've ever seen do that. And that kid was skinny, right? Crooks? He's not concealing an AR-15 under any circumstances. Not even in a backpack. Let's play some of this footage we have here from from NBC. This is the video I'm talking about showing a Butler Township, Pennsylvania police officer climbing up on the roof before immediately dropping back down,

potentially because there was concern that the shooter could turn his rifle on the officer. There's no audio from that moment, but some video later captures the officer's immediate reaction to what he saw. Listen to this. This close, bro. Did he turn around on me? He was right where you picked me up, bro. He was on that left side. And remember, the suspect, the shooter, was able to get several shots off in the moments after that officer climbed the roof, hurting the former president and killing a bystander.

Here's what I think, too. FBI said eight, by the way. Planned incompetence would be intentionally setting it up so that local law enforcement and Secret Service can't communicate. So if the cops find something, Secret Service doesn't respond. It could be instructing Secret Service they don't need to attend the morning security briefing. It could be intentionally not placing someone on that roof. However, the question that remains, this guy, how was he allowed in every step of the way to bypass security? And this could all be explained by a single individual

at a logistical level. You get a Secret Service guy calling the range, hey, I see a weird guy with a range finder. And then the boss goes, nah, nah, we're taking care of that, you're good. They go, okay. And then they disregard. You get a team of people and you say,

here's how we're securing the event. Don't worry, we'll give you your assignments. And then you intentionally don't assign someone to the roof. All the other guys, all they know is, hey, I'm covering this roof, I'm covering that roof. They assume someone must be doing the other job. It still would imply someone in an official capacity was pulling the strings to make the incompetence happen. Yeah, or they were lazy. And so there's this thing my buddies and I talk about, the myth of competence.

Everybody likes to imagine that there's just this high- speed crew of people it's so often not that here's the here's the some of the fog of war stuff that people have to put in because some of the incompetency can be explained even though it's horrific we saw some of it in that body cam footage which they didn't show which is the guys running they actually put a couple of pallets up on a on a like a little overhang and so they boosted a couple of SWAT guys up they're all wearing multi-cam then they've got pallets and they're trying to get to the next tier of the roof and they're screaming for a ladder and so and you know all these things are just they get mixed up in that fog of war the other thing that I can see happening is apparently there were two sniper teams that

were up there that were secret service one was sort of like a like a b team if you will or a c team and they're using bolt action remington 700s so that's not what the a A-team use. The A-team uses like an SR-25, you know, like a Knight's Armament, like higher end weapon system. And so they have semi-automatic capabilities and they can shoot that far out with a.308. So the problem is what I saw in the video, everyone thought it was like one dude

who was taking the shot and they're like, look, there he is taking the kill shot or whatever. And they show the rifle moving. He breaks contact with the glass and all this other kind of stuff. And that poor guy is probably gonna get lambasted about this forever. But it looks like he broke contact because he flinched

because he wasn't prepared he saw shots coming in and he thought it was coming at him right that was the nearest sniper the further snipers are the ones that took the shot i can imagine that you're sitting there looking at a roof where someone is supposed to be because there was someone supposed to be there for all the things that we've heard they weren't there but there was supposed to be someone and imagine that you're a cop or you're a secret service uniform division, and you're on the gun and you pan over and there's a dude in a place where a dude is supposed to be. And the dude has a gun and there's supposed to be a guy with a gun there, but he's wearing shorts and he's got long hair and weird glasses. And you're like, is that, you know, is that Mike? Is that like, who the hell is that? And then you don't have comms with

whoever the local sniper team that's supposed to be putting the guy up there or whatever it looks like. And you have that moment of hesitation. And that guy at the same time has the same problem of the cop coming up. There can be a carnival of errors, like the symphony of things that line up. I do agree that there is some incompetence, whether it's intentional or just absolutely reckless. I don't want to speculate on it yet, but I will tell you this, the single worst trainee that any of you can imagine, just get on your imagination hats and think of the worst person that you would ever put through the FBI Academy. She was in my class at Quantico. She was under five feet tall and nothing against short women.

My wife is under five feet tall, but like this woman was like wrestling with a toddler. She failed every single academic exercise. There were things that were non-failure. They let her go to the last four weeks and she was removed from the academy for failing to do everything. Okay. Doing crazy stuff and saying crazy things. They removed her.

She went back up to the FBI's field office in New York. Do you know what she does now? Secret service. Secret service. She was sent to FLETC and they were able to rehire her. So they're hiring some people that have absolutely no business in being there. And we saw some.

And I will say this too. I know somebody who's a very smart person, but they no experience with guns and we went to a range and uh i would make the assumption based on just understanding the mechanisms of a gun by looking at it that a reasonably smart person would not do this oh she got the slide and then and it was it was actually scary because uh it's a good way to get hurt. She put her hand over the gun like this. It was a shot. And held for about a second, two seconds.

And then that's when I noticed and screamed. And then she took her hands, pointed down. And I was like, holy crap. So this gal that we're talking about, she didn't hold on to a shotgun while sending Buckshot down. And so it just went... It just went up in the air. And, you know, I almost watched one of my buddies catch buckshot in the side of the head because they're standing on a common firing line that assumes

that you're going to be pointing in a safe direction, not letting it go like this. It took her 15 minutes to do a two minute driving course. So these kinds of people, if you're going to take them in and it just turns out that she was a military veteran, even though she was the weakest one I've ever seen, she was a Hispanic female. So you have three things that they are checking in these boxes. And if you were going for these types of what we would call diversity hires or whatever you want to call it, when that person is getting hired on and they're making every excuse, there is more flexibility for screw ups than you would ever imagine. It does, it does defy credulity, but still they're out there. I realized that some people are just

listening. And then explain what I was describing is holding the gun by putting your left hand over where the slide is and if you pull the trigger that's gonna it's probably gonna rip your thumb back break it or yeah a lot of people have what they call slide bike so they get their hand too high up on it and competitive shooters get it but if you're screwing it up then yeah you lose pieces of skin it'll well i think if you put your hand over the slide and pull it you might break a finger or break your thumb or something at a carpools or something but this is just from people who don't have the experience now if these are the kind of people who are going to be brought in and they're just standing around 30 of my class when i went through in 2016 had never held a firearm before now i'm 35 at the

time so i'm a little bit older but like i feel like if you sign up to be an fbi agent you maybe have gone to a range once just to check it out. I do believe that this country is facing a managerial crisis. And a large component is COVID with all the mass retirements that happened. A lot of people who weren't prepared to take the next step or the next role, they shouldn't be there. What is this called? Is it the Peter Principle? That when people get promoted. Yeah, there's a mean way of saying it, but essentially you're promoted

to the level of your incompetence. Right. You're really good in the mailroom, so you get a promotion to, you know... Look, they do this in the mother office you can't handle. This is the thing that happens in law enforcement in general. Nobody can tell me that the best patrol officer on the street that is the best at stopping drunk drivers and handles people

efficiently and drives safely is also going to be the best detective. There's probably some overlap in that skillset, but just because you did a great job on the street on patrol does not mean that you're great investigators and vice versa. There are some investigators that are brilliant, but they should never leave the office because they're morons when they go talk to people. And I work with those folks. It's like, don't let them talk to human beings. They're weird'll just say um I think the story that they've given us the only thing I'm willing to accept with this story is that the details they give us to the media are wrong because the media lies all the time there's more when we get to the uh the story with the FBI and we're gonna pull that up

right now that there's some things in there that I'm going to show you that overlap I think so I'm saying as of right now based on the the the stories we've gotten from the press and the body camera footage i do not believe it is realistic or reasonable to conclude this was incompetence but let's jump to the story from the post millennial which should uh remove all doubts fbi allowed suspect arrested for plot to assassinate trump into us despite being on terror watch list report. OK, there you go. So for all of those of you out there who are wondering about what happened on July 13th, let me read the headline for you again. FBI allowed suspect arrested for plot to assassinate Trump into the U.S. despite being on terror watch list. This is a much bigger story and it tells of a much bigger

problem that goes back at least 20, maybe 25 years. If you give me a little bit of leeway, I'll explain why these things lead me to think what went on with Thomas Crooks is a little bit more dangerous than what they're saying. Did they bring him in to arrest him or how long did they allow him? Three months is what it sounds like. They allowed him in for months. Here's the thing. His visa was sponsored by the FBI

field office in Dallas from whatever we can read here. So people have to understand. He's on the terror watch list and the FBI brought him in, allowed him in, but they sponsored his visa. I'm going to tell you why. And it's dumber than it makes any sense. I was talking to a guy who's in one of the conservative caucuses, like in a chief of staff position. He's like, how does this work? And I go, when the FBI charged their progress, they're looking for a thing that are called stats. This is something that all law enforcement, you know, this is like quotas, if you will. And so we need to have stats

that say, I have X number of cases in this field, and I have X number of arrests in this type of category. We're going after MS-13. We're going after organized crime, blah, blah, blah. We're doing these counterintelligence investigations. They have a thing that's called a disruption, which means the plot basically got foiled. And they have a thing that's called a dismantlement, which means that this network was taken apart. And you get more points for a dismantlement than you do for a disruption. If my memory serves, it may be backwards

but I think it's that. So the thing is, is these guys are literally going for gold stars on a board. And you think, okay, well, would they, you know sacrifice public safety to do this? If they thought they can get away with it safely, they will. And the second thing is the oldest reason that's ever existed, it's greed. The senior executive service in all federal governments, but definitely in the

FBI that I was able to experience, they get paid a five-figure bonus. It's like between $30,000 and $50,000, maybe $60,000 if they hit all their metrics. So they are incentivized to get arrests in certain categories. They're incentivized to do these sort of things. And the other thing that we know, because we had some whistleblowers come to me and my guys, and so I represent a number of different whistleblowers in the FBI, they came out and said, the FBI went so hard on January 6th that they overdid the number of hours that they're allowed to assign to domestic terrorism, because they have to spread themselves to international terrorism and domestic terrorism. They massively overdid it for DT, which is the abbreviation.

Donald Trump? That's right. Same thing. And when they went after these DT cases, they did it so badly that they sent out section chiefs from headquarters to all the field offices regionally and said, listen, we need you to go through

all of your domestic terrorism cases and find connections to international terrorism so we can recategorize your hours. Imagine like an attorney bills hours. The FBI assigns the work of an agent against certain types of categories of cases. So they had too many what are called 266 cases. Those are the domestic terror.

They needed more 415 cases. And in order to do that, they were like, hey, did you find a dude who is a white supremacist, but he was in a chat room somewhere that later on an Al-Qaeda guy went into because we can tie them together and make this a 415 instead of a 266. It's the dumbest thing possible. But when you understand we're talking about bureaucracy here,

here's the scariest part for me. This has been going on for 20 years. There's a guy named Trevor Aronson, who I always reference. He works for the Intercept. So that's not a right-wing source, right? And he's not like a right-leaning dude. He's a reasonable liberal. And he basically has called out the fact that the FBI has been doing this at least since 2006. What they do is they go find people that are otherwise inclined to do dumb things. And they usually find them online. And they say, hey, you want to do dumb and violent things? We want to help you do that too.

And so an undercover or a CHS will go and meet with that person. They will enable their best ideas. They will fund it. And they will push them along to the point where they're ready to go do it. And then it's like, hey, we're going to give you the gun. And the minute they touch the gun, bam, it's flashbangs at your feet.

It's SWAT team and you're done and you're in cuffs. And now you're facing 20 to life for material support of terrorism. The craziest piece that I've been able to kind of speculate on a Thomas Crooks. Imagine you're Thomas Crooks.

You're a 20 year old. You're hanging out online. You're a skinny dude. That's where your life is. We don't know enough about his internet persona, right? But there has to be some because of his age and the way that he grew up. That guy, he goes out and meets, let's say,

an undercover or a CHS for the FBI. And they start saying, hey, you're really pissed off at Republicans or politicians or whatever. You want to go do something terroristic. I want to help you. I want to help you. How much money you got?

I can help you. I can help you get the rifle. I can help you get all the right stuff. I got a guy. I got a friend. Oh, you only have $800. It turns out for you today, $799, my friend, we will hook you up. And that guy decides, you know what? I'm just gonna take my dad's rifle. I don't need to wait for this guy. And maybe he listens to some of the people out there talking, saying, the people that are telling you to do violent stuff are probably fed. So you'll get caught. You know, it's a death mission to go shoot at a former president. You're not going to walk away from it.

Current frontrunner. Right. You're not going to walk away from that experience. You have to assume that's a one-way sort of kamikaze mission. Yeah.

So, real quick, you're saying there's a possibility this Crooks guy, they were doing what the FBI does where they set somebody up, but then he breaks off halfway

and goes rogue. How do you assume that you're going to control this person only because you've always controlled people? The story is always the same. Like when, when you get complacent and you get lazy in the type of work you do, for example, if you go and go after pedophiles, what you'll find is that basically 90 plus percent of them are going to turn themselves

in when confronted because they're not violent people, at least not to grownups and certainly not to grownups like men with guns who have beards, but there's a small percentage of them that will get violent. And the majority of them will be violent to themselves they will commit suicide and that's just a thing that they do that's just the stats but a very very small percent of them especially if you learn the lesson that most of them will surrender the rest of them will commit suicide maybe one percent of of that small little group is going to get violent and decide it's a one-way mission and they'll shoot at you the fbi learned that mission or that sort of lesson in 2020 when they had two agents that were shot and a couple others that were, two were killed and a couple

were shot going after a guy that was doing child pornography. So it's a real thing that if you get complacent and you do the same thing over and over again, you think that you have control over your guy. And imagine that one of them squirts out. That's what scares me about this guy from Pakistan who was supposedly in the employment of Iran. The FBI let him in, and then they supposedly had him under 24-7 surveillance for like three months. And here's the thing. I did that for a living. I used to fly around the country and watch people. We would do it eight hours a day, three different shifts.

And I've seen legit, credible terrorist sources who were buying guns and doing training and doing scary stuff that you're like, oh, this guy should really be watched. And I've seen the exact field office that this was working out of, the New York field office, phone it in. They have literally met at a pizza parlor in a state that I'm not going to say where they hung out together and didn't follow the terrorist subject, even though that I knew the terrorist subject was running around because we had a poll cam on their house. So I wonder how many instances there are then where someone will commit a murder or a crime and it was the FBI's fault, but they just wash their hands, get rid of the evidence.

Are you going to claim it? I mean, here's the thing. Don't look at me. It's in a source room. And this is the problem with the transparency issues that we have with the Bureau. And it's the issue that my buddies and I bring up all the time.

That's why we're not really comfortable with them doing the investigation of the Trump shooting. It's not that they don't have the competency. It's that they don't feel that they're responsible to you and me and any other taxpayer. They're out there going, listen, this is a federal matter. We don't answer to individual places. Unlike your local, you know, you could vote out a sheriff. You can probably vote out your town council and get a different... You don't vote out the director of the FBI. You don't vote

out the director of the FBI. You definitely don't direct, get rid of the deputy director, who's the number two. That's really the power behind the throne. There's a direct line between Chris Wray and Paula Bate. And Paula Bate is, you know, he's a woke dude. Like there's, I don't want to speculate things, but I've heard significant, significant reasonable rumors that he got one of his employees pregnant.

He was into BLM stuff. He had, you know, women whispering in his ear all the way through. They made apologies for what happened in 2020 when they were like kneeling for BLM. That was in my field office. I knew the agents that did that. And they all the way through. They made apologies for what happened in 2020 when they were like kneeling for BLM. That was in my field office. I knew the agents that did that. And they all got excused

because there is that at the top of the FBI. And he said at one point, if you're not interested in going after people for January 6th, you need to find a new job. So one individual said Hanlon's razor. And I'm just like, Hanlon's razor, for those who don't know, is never attribute to malice

that which can be explained by incompetence. Sorry, this can't be explained by incompetence. Some of it can. Yeah. The question is, where is that line? Right. Anyway, you were about to say something. I was going to ask if you can talk more about how the quotas are set.

Like, is this set by Congress through budget requirements? Or is it just, you know, whoever's at the top of the totem pole is like, I think we need to have this many domestic terrorism cases. Do you know what the self-licking ice cream cone is? Is that a thing from Texas, that drag show on kids? This is what government does. Like, there's a tongue and there's an ice cream cone, and they're on the same thing. So the tongue licks the ice cream, and the ice cream, you know, is there to be licked by the tongue. The government sets its own situation up.

It's the reason why guys like me, we're not adjudicated to be whistleblowers. It's because the government investigated the government and found that the government did its own situation up it's the reason why guys like me we're not we're not adjudicated to be whistleblowers it's because the government investigated the government and found that the government did nothing which part of the government the fbi determines through a big process called ipm they decide how many cases they expect to see and they might as well be throwing darts at a board because there's no way to guess what they should say is we want to make sure that these number of probabilities are handled and we're going to flex resources where they need to go. Instead, what they say is we had 800 domestic terrorism cases last year. We're going to have 950 and we're going to divvy them up to the 56 field offices and they're all going to have a piece of it. And when they hit their number, they get a gold star in that category. And if they don't do it, they get a green and

then a yellow and then a red. And if you can get green and gold across the board, your bonus is made. So the head of the field office gets that bonus. So everybody down the chain is incentivized to do it. Because if you're a field agent like I was, like I never cared about this kind of stuff. I think it's dumb. But you see that your boss comes to you and is like, hey, we need to open up these cases. They made us keep cases open that we were like, why am I keeping this open? They're like, you need to do something for your job.

And I'm like, shouldn't I do the cases that matter? No, you should do the cases that you have. And that is a very different mindset that what people assume. You know, I just thought of something. I have a question. You know, the Gretchen Whitmer case, right? Set up. So you had a bunch of like, you know,

derpy guys had no idea what's going on. And then you get these informants and FBI agents were actually directing what these guys were doing. Am am i correct in that i just want to it's been a while yeah agents and undercovers well i'm sorry and uh and sources rather right so so what would happen if there's 16 guys 12 of them are either informants or actually a couple of them are actual agents and they're talking about and doing all the stuff. And then one of the guys who's the marks records what they're saying, goes to the press and says, the FBI is planning to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer. I have proof and gives them the recordings and the names of the guys. It's literally an FBI agent plotting the kidnapping of Gretchen Whitmer. Sure. What would happen if

the New York Times came out and said, we've uncovered a plot by the FBI agents to kidnap a politician? They you know, when that's all about target selection. What I mean is when it when the event is allowed to continue, allowed to continue to some point, the FBI then goes, aha, you're under arrest. But they were the ones who were actually doing the plot. If the plot was interrupted midway through by journalists, real ones, or by some kind of whistleblower who uploads the video footage and says, this guy's an FBI agent and he wants to kidnap Whitmer. How do they get out of that?

No, no. We were trying to set them up. It's called, here's the funniest thing, because you had all these people that were really, really upset about Donald Trump getting immunity for official acts. There's a thing that's referred to as otherwise illegal activity. Okay. Otherwise illegal activity is a sign off that is delegated from the president down to the attorney general, down to the United States Attorney's Office in whatever area you're in.

And then your assistant United States attorney, which is your prosecutor, your line prosecutor for the federal government, says, yes, you can sell drugs. You can be an undercover – because you can't sell drugs to somebody. But you're saying someone at the highest level of the FBI signed off on an agent. It doesn't have to go. It gets delegated all the way down. But that's where the chain of custody goes. So what I'm saying is – It's delegated authority.

If videos appeared online showing actual FBI agents talking about how they wanted to kidnap Whitmer, how does that resolve in the public? Is the FBI going to come out and say, actually, this is a sting operation. Don't worry about it. See, the thing is... Probably. Yes, but then people are going to be like, holy crap, the FBI was

caught actually trying to commit crimes. You can read a whole book of these crimes. Well, then we get to see their dirty work, really. You could have journalists there who'd be able to uncover their methods and then judge if it's ethical or not, I crimes. You can read a whole book of these crimes. Well, then we get to see their dirty work, really. You could have journalists there who'd be able to uncover their methods and then judge if it's ethical or not. You can read their methods

right now. The book is called The Terror Factory. It's in its 10th anniversary right now. My buddies told me this was required reading to be on the surveillance team

I was on so that we knew that when they hit the panic button and said, we got a terrorist, like Janine in the Ghostbusters, you know, we got one,

you'd get the call and you'd be like, okay, let's see what it really is. And you get there and you're like, another one of these. They would act like it was the biggest case ever and in reality, it's always the same. Some poor sap who's down on his luck. He's either mentally or physically or emotionally

handicapped, has no other friends. The only friend he has is either a confidential human source or an FBI undercover and they don't want to let their friend down. That's the only friend they got and their friend's talking to them to do a terrorism, gets them sworn into ISIS. I mean, we had undercovers that would go in and swear in to Al Qaeda, swear allegiance to ISIS, and they'd be like, I'm 100% in. Let's go do this.

And the second the guy does the thing, like put money down on the table to buy fill-in-the-blank gun or explosives or take your pick, it's bam, they're captured. And then they go, and then they face those charges. Here's a really wild one because we actually worked on this in Tampa. And this will hurt people's feelings because this is actually a, there's no winner in this. There was a guy who was legitimately psychotic. And the agents who were running the case said that he was psychotic to me as I was doing that work. They were like, yep, he hasn't slept in months. He wakes himself up every 45 minutes. He prays the Quran until he cries and he is nuts. He gets in his car. He drives 110 miles an hour. He drives by the Pulse nightclub, which was like an hour and 30 minutes away because he's really excited about

Omar Mateen. He's totally crazy. They also said, you're probably not going to be able to take him alive. And that was the first time I've ever heard anyone say that. They're like, you're probably going to have to kill this guy. And I'm like, look, we're capable of doing that. But I've never heard someone say that. By the way, he went in in like a baby like all of them do when you throw a flashbang at their feet he just he was arrested without incident the crazy thing is his sister actually turned him to the fbi and said there's something wrong with my brother he's doing something really dangerous this is in florida in tampa so they have the baker act there but everybody has these kind of like potential for um putting people into a you know 72 hour cycle

so they brought it to the fbi they made her what they call a cooperating witness But everybody has these kind of like potential for putting people into a 72-hour cycle. So they brought it to the FBI. They made her what they call a cooperating witness. Okay. And two members of the family basically were trying to help this guy get out of this trouble. Instead, the FBI set him up, bought an eBay account for $25,000, tried to sell him guns through eBay. They took over that account from the seller and then started like trying to send him guns. is after the sister has come to them and said like correct he has serious issues correct and then they ended up getting the guy into custody by getting him to buy like a suppressed glock and

a baby ak whatever he was calling it's like a draco or something and at the end of the day he does all this stuff he gets arrested no problem his sister felt so betrayed that less than a week after her brother was arrested she went to the police station wearing her full Islamic garb. It was like a full head to toe with a 10-inch butcher knife underneath her vestments. And when a cop came out, because she was sobbing and said, ma'am, is there something wrong?

Can I help you? She took a stab at the guy, cut him in the arm, and he drew down and he killed her on camera. And you guys can go find the footage. That wasn't the right thing to do. Well, that's what had to happen because she drew a knife.

He didn't know anything about her. I'm saying the woman... Well, she made a terrible decision. You don't do that. Well, that's what had to happen because she drew a knife. He didn't know anything about her. No, no, no. I'm saying the woman... Well, she made a terrible decision. You don't do that. But imagine that you went to the federal government and you're like, look, I'm going to try to help. And you're like, my brother's got these problems. By the way, the kid has a really sad story too.

He was 15 years old and he was put into a terrorist internment camp in Saudi Arabia and tortured for like three or four years before he was released back in the United States. So he's broken and he needed mental health. There's no doubt about it. But the fact is, is the sister who turned to cooperate with the federal government, tried to stab a cop. She got killed. So everybody loses.

Yeah. And the federal government gets their prosecution. Everybody got their stats. The dude's in jail for 20 to life. I actually offered to the defense attorneys to go down there and testify in that case with what I knew. I'm sure the FBI would have tried to block that. I don't know how that would work, but like, it's disgusting.

How does the FBI decide what is... We should jump to this next story. This is big news from CNBC advertising group suspends brand safety after Elon Musk's antitrust lawsuit. This is huge. This is GARM. GARM started in 2019

in part to help advertisers avoid having their promotions show up alongside content they deemed harmful. A global advertising association said it is suspending the operations of a unit focused on brand safety two days after Elon Musk's company sued the group, alleging it organized an illegal ad boycott. The World Federation of Advertisers, WFA, confirmed Thursday that it would halt its nonprofit initiative. This is basically what leftist activists do to control narrative and manipulate people. Well, Rumble also joined the lawsuit, and now it has been dismantled. With Elon Musk buying X, they cannot contend with such a massive, multi-billion dollar platform filing these lawsuits. So, you know, look, we can thank Elon for buying Twitter, turning it into X, bringing free speech back to certain

degrees. There are certain things that are still bad on the platform, but I think Musk's doing a really great job. And then there's more than just your right to speak on the platform and getting your account back. For instance, Carl Benjamin back on the platform after Elon Musk bought it. Now, at the global stage, these advertiser boycotts and this woke machine is failing. Rumble joins in. More companies are now able to push back. They say ex-CEO Linda Iaccarino said in a post on X, this is an important acknowledgement and a necessary step in the right direction. I am hopeful that it means ecosystem-wide reform is coming. I mean, huge news.

This is also a loss for the WEF. I mean, yeah. Because they were affiliated with GARM as well. It was one of their co-projects. The ad boycotts, the adpocalypse, is how they suppress voices they don't like. They try to remove your ads. They did this to Tucker Carlson. He had something like 16 advertisers, and then they started attacking his advertisers.

People started getting scared of the activists and pulling out. Now the tide is turning, and the advertisers are—this is not even advertisers. These are activist organizations. Advertisers don't care. They want to sell products. This is a cartel. That's what this is. And the cartel is doing—and they're doing a protection racket, right?

It's a shakedown. They go and they say, hey, we're willing to bring all of our advertisers who have all signed on to these rules. And if you are going to play ball with us, then we'll bring our advertisers. But otherwise, we'll tell all the people that signed on that they're not going to be allowed because they've gone into binding agreements under this. And now it's dismantled. So that's good news. Doesn't mean it's going to fix the problem overnight, though. There's still going to be people that are demonetized.

There's still going to be platforms that are going to struggle. As long as they can hold out long enough then maybe these people come back but it's I think that's the problem though I mean for X there there's a lot of cash flow and you have the the attention but if you're a smaller organization that's trying to start out you know having a coalition of people saying we're gonna block advertising from your platform is you know debt completely detrimental in fact it could be fatal to your business and well aside specific people too i mean they went they went after louder with crowder i mean they well now uh we actually have this story this is from uh today

as well mega supporters call uh on x call for duncan donuts boycott go what go broke duncan donuts told rumble according to the story i said to be honest i would uh i'm a i'm a i'm assuming they're emailing Chris. I would be opposed to showing up on the current version of the platform. The right-wing culture on the site is too polarizing from a brand suitability standpoint, redacted. But we are open to continuing discussion as the site evolves. I am sorry to share that because I want to help. That's a lie.

That's a shakedown. Rumble has a lot of right-wing podcasts on it. That doesn't mean much. YouTube, and there's a bunch of platforms that are far left. Rumble has street street league skateboarding. They've got a bunch of skateboard stuff. So how about this? Dunkin Donuts says, if our ads only appear on your skate and sports and gaming stuff, we're cool. We don't want to be on the political stuff. That's totally normal. Instead, they were like, we won't advertise with you at all for this. So now people are calling for a boycott. But here's

what's interesting. Apparently, this was specifically about louder with Crowder. They say, let me read, they say Rumble hosts a variety of controversial right wing figures, blah, blah, blah, controversial. Pavlovsky claimed Duncan specifically wanted Rumble to drop right wing political commentator Steve Crowder. It's Steven Crowder. It's not Rubel. It wanted Rumble to drop right-wing political commentator Steve Crowder. It's Steven Crowder. It's not Rubel, it's Rumble, and it's Pavlovsky. You know what the sad thing is? The email's really dedicated to this story.

Yeah, no more, again, editor problems. The thing that's really sad is whenever you have, if you run an online business, you can opt out of advertisers that are going to bring you. Ad agencies will come to you and say, hey, we want to advertise on your podcast, your program whatever it is and you'll say okay cool listen i don't do metal sponsors i don't do political advertisements i'm not interested in sports or gambling stuff online gambling you can actually tell them hey these are the things i

don't want to hear ads from and vice versa the advertisers can say i'm not interested in political podcasts i'm only interested in girls in bikinis playing video games and like there's a ton of that on rumble so you can pick what it is that you want to go and advertise on. Like you said, you can be very selective about how these ads run. So this is, this is nonsensical. It's a shakedown. I do think it's really funny that the reason, uh, Rumble reached out to Dunkin' Donuts is because, uh, the, the sponsor reads and ads on Rumble that, uh, they oversample coffee. And it's because coffee is an easy, is an easy product for people to sell for merch for their brand or whatever.

So a lot of people, you name a brand, they've started selling coffee. It's an easy product to sell. So if you've got a podcast. It's consumable. It's everyday. Everybody loves coffee. The reason we launched coffee is partially why we have Casper. It's partially because coffee is easy and everybody loves coffee the reason we launched coffee is is partially uh why we have casper is partially because coffee is easy and everybody loves coffee but it's also because we

want physical location so the actual intent was we bought a building first we were trying to open up a coffee shop it's taken a year and a half permits are moving forward we're really excited about this and so we're like we'll we'll launch the website and sell the coffee first that way we're sponsoring ourselves this is what most people do. So Chris is like, people on this website sell a lot of coffee. Let's go to Dunkin' and see if they want to advertise here because everybody who's watching these shows, they buy a lot of coffee. It's over-indexing.

And Dunkin' was like, nah, we don't want to go where people buy coffee, which makes no sense. Do you know what I think about when I think about right-wing people that drink coffee? I think about cops who spend an awful lot of time in duncan donuts because it's what's open when you're uh working late hours oh dude if cops start boycotting duncan you're talking about a million people that are sworn officers in this country a huge chunk of them lean at least to the they lean generally conservative because they care about law and order and they also sort of lean towards liberty you hope there's some fascists out there obviously

but mostly these people want to see people be able to be free. That's what their hand in the air says when they sign on. So, yeah, I'd like to see a million cops. And, you know, they did this to Starbucks a little bit. And so the alternative was Dunkin'. If Dunkin' wants to get on that bandwagon, there's other places. Well, Katsur says, I'm calling on everyone to Bud Light Dunkin' Donuts. Seriously, companies like Dunkin' Donuts think they can bully us.

And what I'm asking you tonight is to stick together and turn Dunkin' Donuts. Seriously, companies like Dunkin' Donuts think they can bully us. And what I'm asking you tonight is to stick together and turn Dunkin' Donuts into Bud Light. If you have any fight left in you, let's trend boycott Dunkin' Donuts. So, I mean, this isn't part of the advertising cartel. It's just this is what the companies do. Now, here's what I love. Ryan Long nailed this in one of his comedy bits. And I want to see if I can pull this one up. I'm not sure exactly what he titled the video, but it's a,

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Dunkin' Donuts would have no problem. None of these companies would have any problem advertising on any leftist show. They would never say that. YouTube is leftist. Facebook is leftist. And none of the advertisers are like well you know the left-wing bias on your platform is a problem for us i just don't think the transgression will be big enough to really anger the mega overlords enough um before with the bud light it was the transgenders and you know that really gets the people going this sending an

email saying you want to advertise with them it's not it doesn't equate to that transgender culture war right electrocuted rail of getting really getting everybody going this is just kind of because how many companies are not even responding to these emails right like at least duncan is sort of saying like this is why we can't do it i bet there are tons that they reach out to who just like quietly delete the email from rumble and apparently we're not going to boycott them because we don't know who they are. Frankly, nice of them to respond. I see Cat Turd is leading the way on all the boycotts or anybody who crosses the line against MAGA.

I think he did something similar to Kyle Rittenhouse. So now if you cross the line, Cat Turd is number one. We'll put you in the struggle session, the MAGA struggle session coming from Cat Turd. Yeah, they struggle session Kyle Rittenhouse. That was a mistake. Now they're putting Dunkin' Donuts in there with him. I'm okay with the Dunkin' Don Turd. Yeah, they struggle sessioned Kyle Rittenhouse. That was a mistake. Now they're putting Dunkin' Donuts in there with him. I'm okay with the Dunkin' Donuts one, to be fair.

Yeah, I'm okay. Yeah. I could do the rest of my entire life with never having another Dunkin' Donuts coffee or anything else. Dunkin' Donuts was like the only chain in town, a very small town I grew up in. So I have a strong affinity for it. But that being said, there are so many local coffee companies. Like coffee is an easy thing to buy smaller than from a big national chain.

I'd rather have no coffee. Yeah, I agree. I don't drink coffee. I don't understand. I mean, I'll drink coffee every day, but I'd rather have no coffee than Dunkin' Donuts coffee. Same thing for Starbucks, by the way. I give Starbucks a C+. Because you like burn stuff? Well, that's why I give them a C+,

because it's not always that bad. They always hate cops, and they always kind of hate people on the right. Oh, it's the always it's not always that bad yeah but uh yeah that's they always hate cops and they always kind of hate people on the right as a corporation is no good yeah so i'm just saying in terms of their coffee i think it's garbage for the actual quality their drinks yeah right it's garbage don't go to duncan donuts it's not good for you most of their drinks your coffee at home i mean they serve donuts and then for a lot of people go get their other sugary garbage drinks like 50 grams of sugar all their gross syrups.

Just that stuff's unhealthy for you. Don't go to Boycott Dunkin' Donuts for your health, not because of this particular cat turd tweet. Yeah, you shouldn't be eating these donuts, man. I hear these stories all the time. They are people who are like, when I go to Europe, when I'm outside of America, I eat bread and I feel fine. I don't gain weight. In the United States, I eat bread and I just instantly gain tons of weight. It's the binders.

Is that what's binders? Yeah, so they're commercial binders that make them shelf stable for longer. My wife bakes bread. We've gone like the full like trad life thing. My wife makes sourdough now. So it's- Ooh, sourdough.

Does she sell it? What's up? You guys have a bakery? We do not have a bakery. We have a home and we have a bunch of kids running around- But you like, you get imported foreign flour? She has, she uses either King Arthur

or something organic from costco we buy in bulk we go through seriously like 20 pounds of flour at a very fast clip the other day she was like hey do we have a where's that 10 pound bag and i'm like i don't know any seed oil bread or no dude come on now just had to make sure we use and we use you know like really good butter that's grass-fed butter you know from good brass-fed cows but the end of the day is is those commercial binders are the thing that are really ugly if you you go eat, let's say French bread in Paris, you can run on a baguette like all day long and you're not going to feel the same way as if you were to go get one that's coming from like a Safeway or,

uh, you know, whatever, what other stores are out there public. So I'm trying to think of H-E-B. I'll try to work. All of the grocery stores. I'm working my way across the nation.

Yeah. But as you do those, like those things, those will sit on the shelf for days and they'll last in your house for days. Like sourdough is good for like a day, day and a half, two days, and then it's really good for croutons after that because that's how it's supposed to be. Your food is supposed to go bad. Let's check. While we're here and we're talking about whether or not anyone should boycott Dunkin' Donuts, we've got the product name Buttermilk Donut, and it says,

Ingredients, buttermilk cake donut mix, enriched flour wheat flour malted barley flour niacin iron thiamin mononitrate riboflavin folic acid oh that that doesn't mean a lot sugar soybean oil powdered buttermilk dry egg yolk leavening uh let's see uh pyrophosphate sodium aluminum phosphate modified uh food starch soy flour soy lecithin that That's just baking soda. What's konjac flour? I don't think it's pronounced konjac flour, is it? Palm oil. It's natural flavors for me. Corn starch, cellulose

gum, potassium sorbit. There's a little bit of bad stuff in there. That's going to go bad a lot faster than some of the other products. And donuts go bad too. Anybody who's ever eaten donuts at Dunkin' at night when you go in and they bake them in the morning, it's an inferior product throw them out at night they have to like their deal yeah so like the dunk like that's good yeah you want that right you want you you you don't like when the donuts get stale and are bad that's good when the mcdonald's sits

on the shelf for five years and doesn't mold you gotta got questions the twinkies that like never change at all right as as the states, food is supposed to go bad. It's supposed to go bad. Well, it just means that there's other things eating it. And if they can't eat it. You've killed them all because the food is toxic. Yeah. It doesn't know all the other things in the world.

You shouldn't eat it because your micro gut is going to get destroyed. Feels like every few months there's a new boycott. Think to boycott for another reason. Are you into that? Do you want to boycott stuff? No. I like buying things. What's your favorite boycott?

I'm a dirty, filthy capitalist. I see something I like. I want to throw my money at it. I like organic boycotts. What would make you boycott somebody? What would make me boycott something? You know, impulsively, I want to say the Israel-Palestine conflict, but even then, it's actually not true because I love eating at Lebanese and Palestinian restaurants. Whenever I travel a lot for work, and I love Middle Eastern food, and there won't be a lot of Israeli restaurants in random areas, but a lot of Lebanese, a lot of Palestinian restaurants. Would you boycott Dunkin' Donuts if they launched a promotional

From the River to the Sea campaign, where if you sing the song, they'll give you 10% off? You know, if I were to be inclined to buy Dunkin' Donuts products, then yeah, I wouldn't be swayed otherwise. It's just, you know, the bottom line is if I want your product, I'll buy it. And I'm not arrogant enough to think my individual dollar will make a difference, but maybe those very influential Jews with a lot of shekels would. So that would be the...

All right, let's get to the political news. Ladies and gentlemen, Trump says... I'm the Jew to cross, but not the other Scott. From ABC News, Trump says he has agreed to offer from ABC News to debate Kamala Harris. Trump had previously cast doubt about debating Harris on ABC. Well, they were supposed to debate on Fox News, and then Kamala Harris didn't want to do it, so Trump agreed to her terms, I guess. And this will be on September 10th. I know we're all excited for this. I don't know. What do you guys think? Harris is apparently not... She hasn't agreed to any of the other debates.

Trump wants three. He gave this press conference where he said she's weak. I don't know the press conference earlier today was actually that good. It was not. It was not his best. I think he was just trying to generate press coverage. Yeah, I think you're starting to see the Trump campaign go back on the offensive, which I appreciate. I think for a little while, especially with the opening days

of the Harris campaign, they were sort of naturally having to respond to what was being presented to them. I saw that Harris had tweeted out something like, I see that Trump has finally agreed to the debate,

like took him long enough or something like that, which I find so crazy because the original ABC September 10th debate that they had agreed to was Trump-Biden. And I don't understand. It's not the same deal.

It's not the same thing. I don't understand why the narrative is like he was backing out of a pre-arranged agreement when Biden backed out first. When you change the terms of the agreement, it's like, all right, $10,000 and I'm giving you this Honda Civic. And you're like, cool. And then you show up and you're like, just kidding. It's a Ford Pinto, but it looks really nice.

And you're like, that's not the same deal we agreed on. We're gonna have to renegotiate the price. We're gonna have to renegotiate the details. I'm gonna want a warranty. Like, it's a different thing. You brought in someone completely new, who by the way, didn't get any primary votes, but you brought in a totally different animal.

Of course you're gonna renegotiate. It's absurd to think otherwise. This is what I think is so strange about the Kamala Harris campaign in general, which is that she's walking this line of like, I'm going to carry the Biden legacy. And also, like, I am a new different person on day one. I'm going to do something new. If you didn't like what he did, I'm not doing that. But if you liked it, that was all me because I'm on that ticket. Like this is just back and forth. That's going to make me personally crazy through November.

But I totally agree with you. I mean, if if, you know, I thought I was voting for you in a lot and suddenly Serge and some other random guy, Serge being our producer, showed up, I would be sort of frustrated because it wasn't the same ticket, even if you guys are claiming to be part of the same party. So they switched your chip, like the meme, when you got the new chip in, then you'd be ready to go. No chips for me. But the other part of this is really, I think that Trump being like, so she had said, I thought you said anytime, anywhere, which I'm pretty sure that's what Biden said. Him coming back and saying, OK, three debates, back to back to back. The fact that he had proposed, I think it was September 5th, this September 10th date, and then September 25th. He is trying to wear Kamala out, which I find fascinating.

He is a much better debater than she is. The more you put her in front of a microphone, the more that you put her to the test, the more you squeeze her, the more you're going to see how weak she is. She's only got a certain number of canned things, and then it's all cackles after that. Three quarters of the can is cackles. She's going to run out the first time. And then any gaffes, any issues that come up, he has another debate coming up. And he's going to punch her on it. And he doesn't need notes.

He's going to remember because he's got that little, he's got that mental thing. He's like, oh, I see where your weakness is. You don't know how to say things back to these particular points. Were you always interested in Trump? Because you sound supportive of him right now. I don't want to make any assumptions here. I am ambivalent. I am a politically conservative, but I'm not a Republican.

And I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. I actually liked Gary Johnson better. Mostly because one of my buddies hung out with Gary Johnson. One of my buddy's dad hung out with him. But he got my vote in 2020. And I cannot imagine, I'm not going to vote for a Democrat. I have kids, so that's a no-go. And I don't like abortion, so that's easy.

He's not my best candidate, but my best candidate's not running. Who is your best candidate? I don't know, Steve Friend or maybe my buddy Gerardo Boyle who's been here before. Somebody who's got a lot of principle that has never basically screwed up. And those people don't run for president. So Trump is the better option

by a lot. There's no other person that's going to be able to carry that banner. So that's really easy. I'm not trying to elect a role model for my kids. And that's the thing that I always have to separate. Everybody that's mad about who the person is, right? It's like, dude, it's not a perfect vessel. And by the way, I actually believe in a constitutional republic. I don't think the president should be that important.

Like, I think we went off the rails in 1913 for a lot of reasons. And people that are in the chat will be, you know, all amped up about the Federal Reserve. But when we started direct electing senators, I think we went off the rails. We took the situation and we took the infrastructure of this country and we changed it fundamentally. And I also would like to see all the state houses that are red right now. I'd love to see them just go like, you know what? We don't care about your election. Do a general election, say what you want, and then we're going to appoint our electors anyway, because we're not going to do that. And you would still have a better outcome

because I don't think the president should be that important. The president is not supposed to be a king. And we keep trying to elect like role model, savior and king. And I just step away from that. I don't want any of that. So anyway, Trump is fine. He's just the people around him that love him that I like. I'm respectful of them. I've never spent any time with Trump personally.

So I don't have that kind of like affection for him. And I don't do the thing where it's like, oh, I've never met him. But like, he'll fix all the ills. It's like, I don't where it's like, oh, I've never met him, but he'll fix all the ills. It's like, I don't believe in that either. I've also been alive long enough. Well, and could one president fix all the ills? Of course not.

I think so much of this election is going to be sort of riding the ship, turning it in a direction that you were like- It's going to have to stop the ship tilting. Whichever metaphor you want to go for, right? There is something wrong with what our boat is doing and somebody needs to correct it. We didn't get fat overnight, right? You're not going to take one pill and drop 50 or 60 pounds and suddenly be healthy. What you need to do is stop eating all the things.

Like whatever it is, you need to stop the hemorrhaging or stop putting on the weight or stop the unhealthy lifestyle. I would like to see a stop on that. And Trump spent a bunch of money. Like, let's be real. The guy spent a bunch more money than most people would say are conservatives. So I don't put him necessarily conservative, but he did an objectively better job than the alternative.

We've seen it. Like all the excuses they have, they're running away from the record, as you accurately pointed out. She's everything to everything. Kamala is a chameleon. Well, she hasn't even put out a platform yet. Why do you need a platform when you have voters?

Well, you keep hearing the term, it's a vibes election. It's a vibes election. People who are voting for Kamala are voting for vibes. And you said earlier, you know, you're not voting for a role model model for kids it reminds me of this adage all the time like oh people want a candidate they would have a beer with i don't actually believe that i don't need to have a beer with them i need outcomes and so i think dan bongino said it when he was talking to tucker best and it stuck with me i'm not interested in politicians i'm

interested in outcomes are the outcomes better for me my family the people around me american liberty can we get those things going well there, there's two problems, though. That's if you're talking about maximizing the amount of votes you receive from 330 million people, every margin counts, you're going to go lowest common denominator. Sure. And that means you're going to want to go on stage and go freedom. No tax on tips. Well, that's actually a policy.

But the problem is, I don't know how you enact it. You've got to still get the House. That's the thing people keep forgetting. Like, where are where are the people saying like not only do we need a trump well we also need them to go ahead and capture the house and maybe the senate theoretically there are things you could do at the executive uh through the executive branch by instructing how things are enforced in terms of law enforcement by saying we we no longer prioritize investigations just chopping off the fbi at the knees this is's a policy saying, I don't want taxes on tips or for Social Security. Those are policy plans.

I'm not talking about that. I'm saying Kamala Harris is going freedom. Right. She has no policy plans whatsoever. The second problem is shadow campaign, ballot harvesting. I wish the election was actually about convincing people and giving them outcomes, but it's not. It's about, can you get more pieces of paper with names on them than the other guy?

Look at what Seb Gorka put out. He shared it earlier on X, and it was an interview of a bunch of people on the street. They're all women, and one guy that is effeminate, so I won't speculate further than that. But they interview, and they're like, what do you think about Kamala Harris? I'm like, she's doing a great job. She's an awesome vice president. We're really feeling good about it. And they're like, what's your favorite accomplishment? Or what do you feel most strongly about that she's done? And they're like, honestly, like, I don't actually know anything about anything. I just have feelings about stuff. And you're right. That's the vibes thing. That is the freedom. That is the no platform. There are people that will still go

out and vote. The question is, are they really interested? The polling that I saw from CBS and YouGub essentially said a huge chunk of the Kamala voters are anti-Trump voters. And I don't know how much hate drives people to the polls the second time around. I don't think it moves people as much as the 60% of the people that are like, I'm in for Trump. The third time around. But also when Trump is the president during COVID

and people are angry, they're going to vote. But again, I don't think that matters. I think Democrats are going to send volunteers to nursing homes and to schools, and they're going to collect universal mail-in votes. And then there's going to be a bunch of people who are like, did I vote? I think I did. Oh, whatever. Who cares?

Guess what? The FBI won't investigate it, as we found out in 2020. They refused. They've already told us the election crimes they're interested in are all about voter suppression, not about voter fraud. Because they want the Democrats to win. Of course. I mean, this is the case.

Because as we heard from, who was it, McCabe, that many of them fear they'll be jailed and not to flee the country of Trump wins. So what did you do? What did you why do you need to be? Jailed what did you do there? Annie McCabe? That's the question I always have when you start telling me you're gonna get jailed on this debate stuff I think one of the important details is that Kamala Harris only agreed to the ABC debate and not the other three that Trump was trying to put forward that's significant because one of the other ones was supposed to be with Fox News. And Kamala Harris has yet to be asked a serious question about her campaign or any of her political stances on this campaign.

And she's only going to media-friendly environments, even down the line, because the debate is scheduled from a month from now. She hasn't agreed to the Fox News debate. The previous one was on CNN. Obviously, the last time the Republicans and Democrats debated, the Democrat dropped out. So I think we're in for an interesting debate. But I don't know, I'm having nightmares of when Trump debated Joe Biden the last time and they were just yelling over each other. And I just had really uncomfortable feelings come across me. He had a really great debate performance this more recent time. But You're talking about 2020 versus

2024? I think he's got a better sophisticated take on it right now. From watching him, it's way more disciplined than I would expect, which is great. And Kamala's terrible at this. If you leave dead air, she fills it with weird laughs. If you leave any dead air, she's like the most uncomfortable person. I think she's got some kind of

Tourette syndrome. It's possible. I'm not being cute. I'm not a doctor. A lot of people hyper-focus on what they think is laughing. I actually think she may be laughing to cover up a tick. So when she talks, what you need to look for is, everybody looks for the, when she goes, we need Montel. No, no, you look at the videos.

The one video I think is good evidence, and I think people should start investigating this, is when she's saying stay woke and be more woke. She's not laughing. She goes, I think we need to stay woke. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. She wasn't laughing there. Then she goes, I think the laughing was trying to mask that she was having some kind of,

maybe she's having a panic attack, and she's trying to make it seem like she's laughing. Well, she doesn't know what to say. That's what I'm saying. The stay woke thing was a t-shirt. She was just saying something she heard on a t-shirt. She probably saw somebody walk with a shirt that had it on. Right, she's like, stay woke. That's what I should say, right? My brother did that once when he was on mushrooms.

He just said things that he read in front of him. I think somebody should pull up as many videos of her speaking as possible, because people can do this, and look for when she laughs to see how often she's just going ha ha ha ha and how often she's talking going hysterical a concern no i think it's a panic attack or a tick like she can't covering i get it yeah right right like kind of like what you see uh what is it joaquin phoenix do in uh joker which i just watched on the plane in today right right right really uncomfortable stuff where you're like this could go into a cry this could go into a complete freak out. That's a really

good point. If you've seen Joker, Joaquin Phoenix, he's got this disorder where he laughs uncontrollably at random moments, and then he starts busting out laughing like, and then he covers his mouth and starts crying. It doesn't look right. She's covered it decently. I just think she's utterly untalented at a lot of this stuff.

So if it turns out that she's covering something up, none of that matters. That's a woke video, video man i gotta pull that one up if she gets in front of donald trump and donald trump does what he should do which is be very disciplined like the best lines that he had sitting up against biden he let biden kind of ramble on and talk about how they defeated uh medicare or whatever the heck it is and he goes i don't really know what he said and uh i don't i don't think he knows either it's like epic it's like drop the mic i want to play this clip just listen we've heard it before, but really listen. We have to stay woke.

Like everybody needs to be woke. And you can talk about it if you're the one. That's not laughing. That's a massive discomfort. Listen, no one around her is laughing. There's no joke being made. And she goes. And then she laughs.

I think she needs to be woke. And you can talk about it. I think she's trying to make it seem like it's laughter. Like you were saying with Joker, when he's busting out laughing and then he starts crying. There's something. Wokest or woker, but just a more woke than less woke. She's obviously extremely uncharismatic. But my biggest concern for Trump would be in the same way that he made Joe Biden,

I think, look old and senile. You know, Donald Trump has 20 years on Kamala Harris. So in a potential matchup, I think Kamala Harris could potentially, you know, the dichotomy between the two, the juxtaposition, seem more energetic, seem more young. He can beat that really easily by just being presidential, which is to say, let her talk, let her giggle and cackle, let her be weird, let her say all the things she says that are basically word salads of nonsense. The best thing is when she finds a word and then she touches it like seven times like it's the base, she cannot help it.

We used to make this analogy. You guys remember the movie, the X-Files movie where Magneto's walking and he's like calling together like a bridge in the air. It's all these pieces of metal and he's walking across it, but it's coming from nowhere. Kamala canceled the debate? Did she just now? I think she agreed to the September 10th one with ABC, not the other two.

Patrick Webb, I don't know if this is true. Unconfirmed reporting. That's how you cover that. That's easy. Source is in a position to know. She's refusing the other debates. Trump may not do the... She's not going to do the Fox News one. Right. She wants to do stay on friendly turf

which um i don't blame her for the thing is trump is so good on his feet is why i mean i still have confidence in him he's so good on his feet and he'll likely have an iconic moment like when he did with hillary clinton with the locker and i think he is a little bit more unpredictable in terms of what trump you're gonna get i agree with you he should be disciplined you know but i assume that any democrat strategist is saying he's gonna fly fly off the handle he's going to be loud he's going to try and interrupt what they thought biden was going to do but she's sort of a one-trick pony right like we know how she'll present on the debate states that she is you know female girl boss here to wag her finger at trump and say i am speaking you know that's her go-to like got a moment for any kind of we

just saw this the other night with the protesters exactly like she had a planned moment in that for uh when protests were going to chant at her she'll have a planned moment for when trump inevitably tries to interrupt her or who knows maybe they'll even do the muted mics she might even like lower her voice and tell us the story because she's a woman making a point i hope she whispers there's there's only one way for her to present whereas i actually think trump is more agile uh part Part of it is the charisma. He's better on his feet. Part of it is because he's actually very authentic. You are getting whatever Trump you're getting, whereas Kamala is presenting as politician.

Think about this, though. Donald Trump has basically been attacked more than anybody that I've ever seen in any venue. Name it. Like, it doesn't matter. In the public eye for like a decade. It's pretty hard to take those kind of hits and continuously, like all of this stuff, like he's heard it all before.

You're not going to find a new line of attack after a decade of this stuff. So I do think it's interesting to see him go out there. Like I said, as long as he kind of just, he can dial it back. He doesn't need, they have to campaign on a record and the record is atrocious and she's terrible at doing it. So just let her talk as much.

I would give her 90% of the airtime. Let's jump to this. We got a tweet from Mario Noffoli. He says, Joe Rogan endorses RFK Jr. Quote, he's the only one that makes sense. We'll play the clip for you. I don't know if it was like a direct endorsement, but it's basically what Joe is saying. That's politics.

They do it on the left. They do it on the right. They gaslight you. They manipulate you. They promote narratives. And the only one who's not doing that is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. You a fan? Yeah, I am a fan.

Yeah, he's the only one that makes sense to me. He's the only one that he doesn't attack people. He attacks actions and ideas. But he's much more reasonable and intelligent. I mean, the guy was an environmental attorney and cleaned up the East River. He's a legitimate guy, you know, before anybody started calling him an anti-vaxxer, which I thought he was too. I thought he was just nut. This like conspiracy theorist nut until I read his book. I read the real Anthony Fauci and I'm like, what is how much of this is real? These health organizations sane amounts of money,

and then also the government is in on it. And also the number is that these guys made off of these products. I think we hit the point that he was making with R.K. Jr. I'll tell you what I really think. I think Joe Rogan cannot endorse Trump. He's going to have to watch out from the tweets from Cat Turd.

Cat Turd might be coming after Joe Rogan pretty soon. You don't want that Cat Turd. I think Joe Rogan's audience is too big, and I know a lot of people who are liberals who watch him. And I think Joe's concern is, if he were to come out and say, look, RFK Jr. is probably better, but can't

win, so I think the only other option is Trump because Kamala makes no sense. He's also in Texas. It kind of doesn't matter who he votes for. I don't think it's that close. Down ballot probably. Texas actually is pretty close, especially with a lot of what's going on in Eagle Pass. But that being said, if Joe were to come out and endorse either

candidate, it's going to have a massive negative impact on the entirety of his business. And I think he's taken the Michael Jordan route of conservatives buy shoes too, which is play the neutral road, don't endorse anybody. RFK Jr. is safe because he's taken the Michael Jordan route of conservatives buy shoes, too, which is play the neutral road. Don't endorse anybody. RFK Jr. is safe because he's not really in the game. And I don't I don't think it's I don't think Joe has to endorse anybody. Why him saying he likes RFK Jr. and he makes the most sense doesn't mean he actually thinks he's the one you should vote for, that it's who he is going to be voting for. For those who are considering voting for a third party candidate, especially if you are in a swing state, you're essentially throwing your vote away. And it

doesn't serve any political purpose in that race. It could serve a political purpose insofar as you're saying, you know, here's two or three percent. But in most cases, in all cases, voting for the so-called lesser of two evils is how you actually practice politics um in reality to have a protest vote and jill stein or rfk jr or something is a waste of your time and um i think maybe you don't feel so i disagree a lot of people are voting uh for third party candidates whether it be rfk or you know a green ticket candidate or whatever because they don't actually want to commit to a protest vote it's sort of you, the third way out. You could either cast a vote for someone that you're like, I absolutely hate this person. I'm going to vote

for their opponent. Or you could be like, I'm just going to go stand over here with these other people and watch from afar. I think there's something about youth. So I saw Kyle Rittenhouse get kind of raked over the coals for saying he wants to write in Rand Paul. There's a couple things. Ron Paul. Yeah, sorry. The story is, is that when you're younger, you have less skin in the game. You don't have kids. You may not be married. You may not make as much income. And so you can be more idealistic. You can be a single issue voter. You can stand on principles and think it matters. As you get older, you get a little bit more pragmatic. You start realizing that outcomes are a little bit more important. So maybe you have a little bit more

skin in the game. You understand maybe you're making more money and the realistic outcome changes. But I don't want to live in a country where if you say, hey, I don't agree with you politically. I want to vote for somebody else that we have to cancel you because that's gross to me because I grew up in the 80s and we didn't do that. And we didn't do that in the 90s either. Like they were people that were friends that voted for, you know, that didn't vote for Bill Clinton and they still got along. You don't have to vote for the party that your friends do if we want to live in a reasonable America. So like, I don't honestly,

and are you looking to Kyle Rittenhouse for political advice? Like I'm not. I might look to him for how to use the forward assist on an AR under stress. He did a good job with that. But at the end of the day, like he's not making any decisions for me.

And so I just think it's weird that we go and cancel people over that stuff. I do not believe that if I were to have a conversation with Joe about the current state of U.S. affairs, that he could logically disagree with me about why Trump is the correct person to vote for. I am not saying Trump is perfect. I am not saying the right does not do the things that Joe is saying they do with gaslighting, whatever. I'm not saying any of that. I'm saying based on the record we saw from Trump in the first place, I did not vote for him in 2016. There's a reason

why I voted for him in 2020. And based on where we're at currently, I think the logical conclusion is yet there's no reason to vote for RFK Jr. Donald Trump actually is a marginally net positive president for a lot of reasons in the political landscape. I am saying that anybody who's honestly approaching the issues, the news and what's currently happening in this country could not reasonably conclude there's anything else to do. That's why my immediate assumption is, and I mean, no disrespect that Joe is just trying to stay neutral to a certain degree. He's saying, I don't I don't want. But also consider this, too. Joe's show is a massive red pill for for a lot of people especially with the covid narrative and the lies for people who are watching joe if he comes out and says trump and then

instantly they're like oh he's a trump guy i can't i can't watch his show anymore yeah all of a sudden now when joe tries to tell them the truth they're not going to want to listen to him that's right so it's it's the smartest thing probably probably strategically business-wise and politically we have a show as big as his, to just say, I don't want to be involved in the politics. Listen to what we have to say. Because I tell you this, more people have probably voted for Trump

and will vote for Trump because of Joe Rogan than anybody else, whether or not Joe says he's going to vote for him. Yeah, he promotes working out. He makes everyone conservative. He's a fascist. How dare you? Joe calls out media lies and manipulations. Right.

And then once you start digging into that and you realize you've been lied to, you end up looking into what Trump is actually doing. And I'm not saying every single person who does is going to vote for him. Some people might actually be lefty and be like, no, I don't like him. But a lot of people will wake up to the fake news and say, they lied about Trump. That wasn't true. I actually don't think he's that bad. And so I think, you know, Joe, Tucker and Joe having the biggest podcast on Spotify is a massive white pill. He touches things so softly. The way that he approaches things are something that nobody

else is really doing the way that he does it. And that's why he's been so successful. He doesn't come out and say, hey, I think all these really aggressive things. He says it softly. He says it in a funny way, but he's made people confront their own beliefs. It's like, hey, you believe this thing? Well, why do you believe that? Like, let's, let's just, let's just turn it on its head and give us a skeptic approach, which is what we should be doing. Approaching people Socratically by asking questions, asking simple questions and making people evaluate their beliefs. So I agree with you. He, he moves people to the right, but basically he moves people into asking basic sort of, um, if you assume this, if you want to believe this, why do you believe this?

And can you justify it? And oftentimes, he brings on really interesting guests that kind of tell you other stuff. The weirdest thing I ever heard on Joe Rogan that has changed my mind about something, and I don't know if it's true or not, but I listened to Alex Jones

and him talking about aliens. And Alex Jones like flirting the idea that these could be human time travelers from like way in the future that have basically don't need a physical body anymore in the same way. So they have huge evolved craniums. And I was like, oh my God, that makes way more sense than anything else that I've heard. It makes way more sense than people like coming to spy on us like a Petri dish. So I just took that

away and I went, cool. Like now I question what I think about things. Yeah. I don't have to be on any particular thing. You just, if you're willing to question anything that you tell, you're like, oh, I believe this to be true. Take a moment, evaluate why. If there's something to sort of chip away at that, it makes you flexible. And I think it's good. Yeah, but time travelers. Come on. No, no, it makes more sense that we're in a simulation, which is entertainment for an advanced species that use us to generate, it's basically an AI generated sitcom. And Donald Trump is the main character. I think RFK Jr. is closer to Trump than he is to Biden. So this is in a way a sort of endorsement of Trump.

In policy or in personality? In policy and personality. Yeah. Like, and I think there were phone calls between Donald Trump and RFK Jr. in the past of rumors of them potentially working together. Well, there was a leaked phone call where Trump was asking for the endorsement. RFK apparently was like, no, delete it. It's bad. We don't want to do that. I don't know if these similar in terms of every policy, but I think he is more charismatic than

Kamala Harris is. I think it would be a more interesting debate if you had RFK and Trump up, because I actually think they would probably go into policy, whereas it's just going to be a personality clash. I like that Joe Rogan has basically not endorsed. I mean, interestingly, I was way behind RFK, but I don't want celebrities to endorse people. I don't want people who own businesses that I like to endorse people. And maybe that's a little bit of political fatigue, which I actually think a lot of Americans are feeling. But I don't I don't need to know who someone is. I don't need to know who everyone is voting for. Right. There are some people whose advice or whose lifestyles or who something else might be meaningful to you that they they have a good grip on the economy or they're really working hard on an issue that you are passionate about. So knowing who they think is a good candidate would matter. Right. But to your point, one of the cool things about a lot of podcasters, but definitely Joe Rogan, is that it's just about the presentation of information and asking questions.

And in some ways, getting him to just be like, I'm not voting. I'm not going to tell you I'm voting for is powerful because it's more about you having to analyze critically the information and his takes on things and use your brain to come to a conclusion as opposed to being told, well, that's who this star is voting for. So obviously you must vote for that person too. And this RFK Jr., again, his impact on this race cannot be overstated, especially as we're coming closer to November. Trump's clearly concerned because he's having phone calls with him. You have to imagine what's going on on the Democrat side. So these guys are very concerned and he's going to want a lot in return politically to potentially drop out down the line. He probably should down the line and use his political leverage for something as political capital and try to get some sort of position in the Trump administration, help Trump secure a win. But I think if it does go to November and he doesn't drop out, it'll actually severely hurt Trump.

The more and more I see from RFK Jr. and the closer to election time we get, yeah, I see more similar. I think the average RFK supporter is more likely to have Trump as a second choice than Kamala Harris. Maybe I'm missing out on that. See, I think there are enough people who were going to default vote for Biden who are unhappy with Kamala that they will look for a third party candidate, whether it's RFK or someone else. I think that Kamala is not as strong with Democratic base as people would maybe like to believe. It's this vaccine stuff, because a lot of Trump's base was very concerned and didn't believe in that, had questions about the vaccines. Of course, a lot of Trump's base did. And he was the Operation Warp Speed guy. He's saying the

COVID-19 vaccine was mankind's biggest, largest achievement. And a lot of his base doesn't like that. And I think they were able to go to RFK Jr. as an alternative, who is skeptical of many different COVID vaccines and different vaccines. There are, you know, maybe not for COVID, but there are a lot of progressives or left-wing people who are just kind of crunchy and don't like vaccine stuff. That's who used to be in that camp. Well, that's why RFK came from that camp. I feel like there's a lot of those diehard Trump supporters who were really ticked off about how the COVID vaccine stuff went down.

There are a lot of diehard Trump supporters who are totally against Operation Warp Speed and all of that stuff. They just wanted to stop talking about it. And are willing to pivot over that issue. I don't know if they're willing to pivot. I don't know if they are. A small amount of them will be significant. It doesn't even have to be a large amount of them.

Even a couple of percents in a couple of states is an issue. If RFK Jr. only gets 2%, 3%, 4%, that still has a huge impact on the swing states. Even less. Let's throw this to the mix. We got this story from the Post Millennial. Major U.S. banks shuttered 33 locations in just two weeks.

Major U.S. banks are closing down branch locations and shifting to online services. And something we saw in Australia, they're getting rid of the ability to withdraw cash from your banks. What we're seeing here, I think, is just market downturn. The market just crashed. The economy is not good. People are struggling. And so I don't know if any of these other ancillary things matter. If we're really talking about an election that's based on the issues, it's the economy, stupid. And regular people, you can lie to them all day and night. But when they go to the grocery store, if they look at that bill and they scoff, whoever is in the administration now is in trouble. Let's get really cynical, though.

Do you actually think that we're going to have any kind of semblance of a fair election? No. I'm just saying if this was really about who wins the argument. And that's the hypothetical. And I think that's where people are forgetting. Because what I keep seeing is, I listen to a lot

of MAGA people, but I also will jump in on Twitter spaces where people I disagree with and I hide there anonymously and just lurk out and listen. And I want to see what they have to say.

Today, there was a space and Lev Parnas was in it and they were talking about they don't think that Trump actually got shot in the ear because they've apparently never seen how superglue works when you have a small wound that you can actually close up with super glue and you wouldn't see it very easily and as a paramedic

who's actually done that and i've you know i've sealed up ears before from dog bites and other things it works it works really well the thing is is that making that up we're what what's that super glue oh god you should totally have 99 cent super glue in your pack it has all the it was invented for wounds wasn't it it's well the stuff is called dermabond that they use in the hospital so it's a 40 tube but you can get the 99 cent tube and it works your pack. It has all the- It was invented for wounds, wasn't it? Well, the stuff is called Dermabond that they use in the hospital. So it's a $40 tube, but you can get the 99 cent tube and it works just as well. It just burns a little bit longer.

But if you said that in one of those spaces, someone would be like, he's not a real paramedic. That's not true at all. I've actually taken my fingers down to the bone with a knife by being a bonehead because I'm just a regular dude. And I've cut myself down here

and I've sealed them up with superglue. And overnight, I was able to use them again. You're not going to tear it open. It'll close up, especially a really clean wound. But that's not what I want to talk about. Think about this. Sorry, I'm derailing you. These people rolled 100 miles an hour at a cliff the size of the Grand Canyon.

They indicted him. And they got him in Florida. They got him in D.C. They got him in Georgia. They got him in New York. OK, state and federal charges on all levels. They were able to only get one of them across the finish line. Does anyone actually think that we are not going to see Donald Trump?

There's a very, very real possibility that the guys in New York decide we bought this ticket. We're taking that ride. We're not going to drive up to the edge of this cliff at 100 miles an hour. Stop and look at the view. I think they're going over it. And I think there's a strong probability he ends up in Rikers because that's what they are prepared to do. I don't see any fear of the weak candidate or the fact that they swapped out somebody in the most undemocratic move despite crying about how they're going to save

democracy. There's nothing that tells me these people have any fear about what's coming up. I just want to add this real quick as well. In about 20 minutes, we're going to be in the hurricane. And so I got a big warning. My phone went off. We got 20 minutes, we're going to be in the hurricane. Oh, man. And so I got a big warning. My phone went off.

We got a warning. So if the show disappears, you know why? It is not the CIA. Is it Debbie? Is that what it's called? I don't know. It's Debbie. Let's say the election isn't fair and then Trump loses in 2024.

I think we're going to be in for such another turbulent four years as Trump will inevitably say the election was fake or stolen and will have his hold on the Republican Party for another at least four years and would run again. I don't agree. You don't think he'd run again in 2028? Oh, I definitely think it would be the revenge toward Trump. At 83 or whatever?

Yeah, if he's still kicking. If he still wanted it, then I think Republicans wouldn't have a choice. I don't think so. You don't think Trump would want it or you don't think he'd get the support if he wanted it? I think he's going to be in his 80s and he's going to be like... Joe Biden almost did it. The Democrats didn't

seem to have any problem with it. I don't think Joe Biden almost did it. I think you're misestimating. He didn't even come close. I think if they pushed off that debate until September, they would have had no other choice and it was actually a huge miscalculation by the Joe Biden campaign to have that debate earlier than any other campaigns they ever do for general elections.

But yeah. I think the Biden campaign miscalculated by having the debate when they did. But I don't think that Joe Biden almost got reelected because I think he was already facing really serious scrutiny before the debate. He was the presumptive nominee at the time. He was sort of the presumptive nominee for sure.

But it's not like his party was happy about it. So wait, that's to say you guys don't think that Trump will want it or that the party wouldn't give it to him if he did want it? I guess you're going either way. Because I think if he wanted it, it's his for the taking

and there is no other clear alternative who could try to primary him. We're talking about like four years from now, right? It's hard to say what will come up. Political time that feels like tomorrow. No, it doesn't. Because if you think back four years ago, so much has happened since then. I mean, it feels like it's tomorrow because we think in election cycles, but ultimately we pack huge histories into each, into every four years.

I mean, Nancy Pelosi used to be friends with Biden and now she's like, yeah, I didn't try to pressure him out. And I haven't talked to him since. She sent him to that nice farm in Wisconsin where they have all the pretty grass. Right. Some guy with a suppressed 22 or whatever. All kinds of political dynasty shift, especially if we're thinking about like the Supreme Court, right? The next president will probably name multiple Supreme Court or at least nominate multiple Supreme Court justices. It's unclear to me what the landscape will look like in four years. And I think, you know, maybe if Trump didn't get elected and he wanted it, he would get reelected. On the other hand, he could also be this political symbol,

this martyr who was just stolen from, you know, however his base will say it. I think you guys are missing the ego play of Trump. I just couldn't imagine him taking that step down. It's just un-Trump-like, frankly. I think if he lost again, it would make him bigger. It would be losing again. In his rhetoric, it would have been stolen again.

Whatever it is, if he doesn't go to the White House now, it will become even bigger, and I think it will potentially really consolidate the movement behind him. Even if he's not at the top of it, they will say like, we have to avenge him in some way. I'm not talking about political violence,

FBI, who's watching politically in the ballot box. I'm talking about people saying like, we need to elect on every level, people who represent our values because this one guy, we really wanted to, didn't get in. We also have a,

I can't remember a time when this was the case, a first term president, lame duck for six months left. Look who's running the country right now. Has anyone just realized that like, whenever you see anything like Biden pops up and he says like a bunch of stumble slurs and people are like, ah,

that's just what he does. You know, five weeks ago, that was insane. Nobody would have met. They would have been like, they would have covered for him. And now he walks out there and he's like,

I got the four fingers. I don't know where you put the ring on a five. I guess you put it on your thumb and you're, and you're now he's working on his political achievements with this absolute garbage hostage deal. I don't know if we spent any time talking about it. Oh, the Russia trade? The hostage deal is horrible. Didn't they almost send Biden on the plane?

Wasn't he trying to climb on the plane and disappear? Where we looped in multiple EU allies to have to trade Russian spies and criminals with blood on their hands. And we left people behind. It was not even like a perfect deal that we got everyone out. Like we left stuff on the table. Hostage deals incentivize more hostages to be taken.

Unfortunately, that's just the political calculation. But Joe Biden is going to tout this as his huge geopolitical accomplishment, which is crazy. But the big win for me is that the Russian FSB assassin that they got out of Germany

looks like what I want a Russian assassin to look like. He had a steely gaze. He looked like what I expect a Russian assassin to be. And the story about, you guys have probably all seen this, but there were Russian spies

in, was it Poland? Or no, in Estonia, in one of the Eastern European countries. And they were posing as being like Argentinian to the point where their children spoke Spanish, had no idea they were Russian. And when they got taken back to Russia on the plane, were completely blown away by this. They had no idea.

Putin greeted them by saying, because they don't speak Russian because that's how deep their parents were undercover. Yes. That's wild to me. Do not underestimate how dedicated these people are. Yeah, the Russians are deeply, their spy network is deeply entrenched in Europe.

I heard that the president before Biden was working for the Russians. That's what I heard too. Yeah. Crazy. Discredited multiple times, but I still hear it. It might be coming back for a second term. Biden is working for Xi Jinping, so just pick your enemy here.

He has that really naughty phone call. Have you seen the Tim Walz China stuff? How in the world was he in the military with the security clearance and like hanging out and living in China briefly? How is that possible? I don't know if you can do that. Yeah. I was not in the National Guard, so I only have active duty experience.

But you couldn't even go to Mexico. Like, you can't go to Mexico. They're like, you're like, hey, I want to go to this wedding in Mexico. And they're like, sorry, it's in Mexico. That's a no-go zone right now. You can't go to Cancun for your friend's wedding. And you're like, I guess I'm not going. Did you get a diplomatic passport?

I did when I was in the FBI. Oh, okay. And they didn't take it back. So I have my expired passport. It has the, you know, the red. Does everybody who serves get a diplomatic passport? Like, when you're working for the U.S. government? No. So when I was an agent, you could get it.

I just went over across the way to headquarters. They did them out of the Hoover building. If you thought you might need it and there was a possibility you might travel for work, you could get it. So it wasn't like an exciting thing or wasn't granted to you. If you thought it was a possibility, you can go through the rigmarole of filling out the paperwork and sending it over. What does it do for you? Nothing. It's the same passport.

So it's red. So you'd use it on official duties. And so they basically log you in as dip status or as you are represented the U.S. government. You're there for official process. But I've heard of people using it on their personal travels as well. I had a regular passport as well. I had a blue and I had a red and I don't know the advantage unless you're actually doing

something that is very specific in a diplomatic mission, State Department or whatever. For what I was going to be doing, I didn't want to travel ever because the places they would have sent me to would be looking at Chinese spies and that seemed like it was not a good place to go. I definitely wasn't going to go to China. I knew that much. You stole a lot of our data. Tim Waltz has

some weird Chinese connections. Yeah, it's so strange. Yeah. And remember, China is where we pseudo-boycotted the Olympics, but we actually didn't. We sent all of our athletes. We just didn't send any high-ranking officials. And then we told the U.S. athletes, don't use your cell phone there because they will steal your information. It's already done.

I don't understand the U.S.'s relationship with China, and I think it's very weird under the Biden administration. All right. We're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends and head over to TimCast.com. Click join us, become a member because that members only uncensored call in show will be coming up at 10 p.m. where our members will actually call in, talk to us and join the show. That could be you if you become a member at TimCast.com. But for now, smash that

like button. We're going to read your super chats. Frost 787 says, First, what do you think of THGG, that ho's got to go? It's okay. You know, I don't know. I think Crooked Kamala, Cacklin Kamala. Crooked Kamala is probably good. People are overthinking these nicknames. You know, they want Tampon Tim, and I'm like, nobody knows what that means.

You got to call him like Bad Economy Waltz. Just like, nobody knows what that means. You gotta call him like bad economy waltz. Just like, there you go. Bad economy guy. I think you should just start saying, who? Because 71% of the country had no idea who he was. That one works too. Alright, Dalimar says, get all independent voters you know registered. Make a plan

for election day or sooner to get them to vote Trump. There you go elliot cruz says spread it far and wide when people hear kamala harris laugh i want them to think of ed the nutty hyena from lion king keep animals out of the oval office well okay oh man i'm not your buddy guy says i can't understand how anyone could conclude this wasn't an inside job now i will admit now i will admit who orchestrated may be up for debate whether it was the globalist economic liberal order or china idk

seriously idk small mouse in a big field says it wasn't an inside job they subcontracted it ha ha nowhere man says hates him watching for three years and irl is our household's primary news source keep it up the great work. P.S. Ian is based, and bring Spoonman back on. Seamus abandoned us. Seamus has just left, and he's never come back. In fact, I texted Seamus, and this is true. I texted Seamus when Anti-Woke Dog came out, his cartoon,

saying that it was based, and he only just messaged me back about it today. Seamus, you know, I don't know. He's a bad friend. He's a bad friend. I don't know what's happened toamus, you know, I don't know. He's a bad friend. He's a bad friend. I don't know what's happened to you, Seamus. I don't know. You got famous, became a bad friend.

It was a month ago. I hate when I find a month-old text and I respond to it. I'm like, this doesn't look good. Unfortunately, I'm pretty bad at that. I said, dear Seamus, my best friend, you are the greatest cartoonist, and your comedy is so great, and he ignored me. He's a bad person.

It was a Donald Trump kind of compliment. Oh, Trump is so good when he roasted Bill Barr. Remember that post he made where he was like, I called him fat, lethargic, incompetent, but because he endorsed me, I'll remove lethargic from that statement. Jeez, he's good.

I liked when they accused him of sleeping in trial and he's like, I was just resting my beautiful blue eyes. Yeah, my beautiful blue eyes. Lunar Bow says, can you talk about the Charlemagne the God slideshow titled Things You Need to Know Before You Vote? I see so many of my friends posting it like I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. I have no idea what that is. Never heard of it. I'm going to tap in our hip-hop

correspondent, Serge. Hal Gailey says, I trust Harris Waltz with power less than I trust a fart in an airplane with no toilets after a week

in India eating street food and drinking the water. That's dangerous. Specific. Jeez. Yeah, that was a little much, man.

All right, let's go. Relentless Hemi says, try the new Tim Pax heavy flow tampons. Shout out to Tim Waltz. It's not going to catch. Yeah. You know what catches?

You see, I pissed off an awful lot of military veterans. A. Waltz. Yeah, his story about... Tim A. Waltz. That's not a bad one. I didn't come up with that. That's what people have been saying. Yeah, yeah.

Just the fact that he... The number of people that I've seen that have been training saying, here's me not neglecting my duty. Yep. This is me. And it's a bunch of people on deployments. I think that's just the fact that he the number of people that i've seen that have been training saying here's me not like you know neglecting my duty yep uh this is me and it's a bunch of people on deployments i think that's powerful i think it's strong the fact that he was going after guns saying you know guns i used while i was in war it's like bro come on all right mf damien says i got a pretty accurate ai generated real-time summary of the live chat when i opened the stream when did this transcription nightmare start uh What do you mean real-time summary of the live chat?

I don't know what that means. That sounds wild and also horrifying. I don't know how you summarize a live chat. It's just people saying random things. Paul Tascalo says, if Kamala has a plan to fix inflation, why doesn't she just tell Joe about it so they can fix it now? That's actually, I tweeted that because there's this clip going

viral. Let me pull this up. She's basically just saying, suffer, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. She said something to the effect of, like, in my first days in office. And it's like, dude, you're already in office. You're already there. Prices for everyday things like groceries are still too high. You know it and I know it. When I am president, it will be a day one priority to fight to bring down prices.

So she's basically saying, she may as well have said i could fix all your problems right now but i'm not gonna unless you vote for me it's like oh that sucks and you could do it now but you won't and they're still going for it and i don't think she can do it so there's that yep titan soaps says as an actual combat veteran i really hope the trump campaign hammers tampon tim with stolen valor the vp debate will be interesting semper fi yeah um i think they should call for him to resign i i said i i thought trump's press conference should have been to state that tim waltz's statements about serving in war are shockingly offensive to veterans in this country and for this reason i'm calling on him to resign from this position.

This is not a position he should have. Resign as governor, blah, blah, blah. Vance would be a good guy to hammer him on that because I don't think he was like a correspondent or something. He was in a combat zone. I don't think he saw combat, but Waltz wasn't even close to it. So we'll see if we get those scheduled, too, even the VP debates. Nicholas Maduro says X is about to be banned. He did ban it for get those scheduled too, even the VP debates. Nicholas Maduro says X

is about to be banned. He did ban it. For 10 days. Oh, in Venezuela? 10 days? Why not a cool Fortnite? What's going on here? How'd you come up with 10 days? For 10 days. It's 10 business days, so it actually is a Fortnite. It's like a timeout? That's what it should be.

You're in timeout. Lurch685 says, I'm a private security professional of 20 years. Totally inside job, not incompetence. I'm so sick of this default excuse. I agree. The problem is,

if you're a private security contractor, you are held to a competency standard that the government is not. Yeah, a fair market value standard, too. Are you good at your job or not? I'm just saying, it's tough. It's tough to see that.

Darius Lipsy says, Tim Kast is full of coincidence theorist. Is full on coincidence theorist? I like full of, and I like coincidence theorist. I can get behind that. So coincidence theorist is a reference to people who think it was all an accident and it's all incompetence. I like that there's a term for it. Right. And then conspiracy theorist that you think there was coordination at some level. Yeah. It's got to be both, to be fair. It's probably a percentage of both.

The question is, is how much of it, if you fail, here's the thing. If you prepare yourself, you tend to get more lucky and do things better. If you don't prepare, you tend to get more unlucky. So those things can overlap. The question is what percentage of it was. Let me put it this way. If I walk into my living room and my window is shattered and there's a rock on the ground, I'm not going to be like, you know, someone accidentally threw a rock through my window.

The security guards that we had here must have made a mistake. I might be like, someone intentionally threw a rock through my window. How did this happen? Like, I'm not going to assume there's an accident. Like, oh, somebody must have accidentally was playing catch with a rock and then it went through the window. Only explanation. You never lived next to me when I was a kid. I mean, maybe if I lived

next to a kid, but... Yeah, that's right. I'm not going to assume that a rock was rolling on the ground and the wind whipped it in the air. I'm going to assume someone intentionally threw a rock through my window. And if you're a coincidence theorist, as I am, I've mentioned this a few times on shows prior. But one of the most unnerving things about this is if you do believe it was just one motivated, crazy 20 year old, relatively young shooter.

That's to say that many people, many political people are vulnerable because most senators don't have a congressman, don't have Secret Service. Nobody has as good a security as Donald Trump does, besides like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. So what does that mean for them? It seems like everybody does, actually. So what does that mean for them if a motivated young person wanted to? A veil of civility is paper thin. What would you do if you hired a, I don't know, a plumber to come and fix your plumbing? And then during the process by which they're in your kitchen

and your bathroom, you hear one guy go, ah, and then black sludge that sprang all over the place and they go, we didn't do it. It was a coincidence. Then you hired a government plumber. That's how that works.

You'd be like, dude, that person goes back and writes it up and gets a promotion. I'm pretty sure you did it. This needs to be thoroughly investigated. So I'm not like excusing. And not by the people

that are doing it right now. Let me just throw that out there. I just, it's because they they're not accountable i would have loved to see the state police take it i understand that there's a federal nexus simply because it was a federal protectee the state police should be doing a a full collab job at least the state police are going to answer to some people in their state like i'd like to see the many more resignations we only saw Sheetal. Was it resigned? Had a secret service. I believe it was very reluctantly at that kind of pressured into it. And from like,

it seemed like from Republican senators and stuff when she was at the RNC, she was getting a lot, not to say it really flippantly, but while the FBI was letting somebody in and tracking a guy with 24 hour surveillance, do you have any idea how many people you have to wrap up to follow some Pakistani dude? 24 seven. You're talking about three shifts of surveillance agents. That's a minimum of like six to eight per shift. That's just the surveillance end of it. Then you

have analysts, then you have people that are doing all the exploitation. Then you've got the case agents and anybody else that's doing the undercover operation. There's a lot of people. And in the meantime, the actual guy that took an actual shot at the actual, you know, former president standing up there on a, you know, giving speech, that actually happened while the FBI was running around after the person that they created. That's the thing that bothers me so much. The opportunity cost continues to be the biggest question. What are your resources? They're finite, and you're using them to bring and import your own fake terrorists in so you can have a win the day before someone actually pulls off the legit terrorism. But I think you made a really important point. We don't know how many of these instances where the FBI, we know they stage these

hoax terror attacks so they can take them down and claim they did heroic work. How often do they try to convince a guy to do something and then he cuts off contact and then goes and does it? And then they're like, oh crap. It's going to be stuck in a source room and it's going to be hidden for 25 to 50 years under the human category. You will not find out the name of those things. And Congress doesn't have visibility to it, and I'm not confident the inspector general does either. What if that was the Vegas thing? If it was an FBI CH?

Here's the other problem. We focus in on the FBI because they're the one that's the most prominent, but the most scary animal that's out there is under DHS. They have absolutely no dialogue, which is the thing that I always harp on. It's really technical for people, but the FBI has a playbook. There are rules. It's not Vietnam. I feel like I'm Walter from Big Lebowski, but there are rules that the FBI falls under. They can break those rules, and they do sometimes, and they shouldn't, and they should be held accountable. DHS doesn't even have a rule book, so they don't even have to worry about ignoring it. And the scariest thing, Tim, that most people don't realize is that they bring DHS, like HSI agents and ICE and other stuff,

they bring them onto FBI task force so that the HSI agent can do the thing that the FBI is not allowed to do because the FBI has rules. And those people don't lose their authorities when they join a task force. So some of this stuff is really wild. Who knows who the DHS guys are recruiting and what kind of ops they're incentivized to, because I don't know what their metrics look like. I don't know what their stats are. And they always seem to have a really cush job. They didn't seem to have to report to anybody. They'd come to our office for a couple of days. They'd go to their office a couple of days. They'd go hang out in the desert for a couple of days. I don't know. They had a very different animal.

So a lot of people are not paying attention to the fact that DHS is 10X the size of the FBI. It's a significantly bigger and probably more threatening animal, especially for all the people that follow Intel stuff. All right, Daniel Karimian says, I fully support changing the show's name to Dancast. Just temporarily while we wait out this Tim Walsh storm. Debcast. Let's go.

What have we here? Josh Judge says, U.S. Army army infantry here on a handgun the recoil force of the slide isn't that powerful you can hold the slide stationary when firing it can be a strategy to get the gun out of the fight because the next round won't chamber oh well how about that unless it's small weak female hands then it's gonna hurt yeah i figured you're gonna get some pain there. But I agree with him. Fundamentally, I agree with him.

Richard Devine says, an officer in Iraq at the clearing barrel wondering why rounds keep coming out of his pistol when charged, knew a soldier was mentally effed up from Iraq, was in the Fort Hood shooting, had to go back to Iraq. They need numbers. Wow.

Yeah. Yoshiaki Koga says, Secret Service has recent history of incompetence. Two attempts on Obama, one Bush, a former head of SS, resigned over the attempt on Obama. Look up real-life lore video on the topic. Interesting. Or the Joe Rogan stand-up routine where he talked about the female

that got punched out on the White House lawn. Right. She jumped over the fence or whatever? No, it was a guy that jumped over the fence. But it was like a woman standing post at the front door. And he just hit her? Well, yeah, that's Rogan's whole point. He's like, dude, guys, diversity, but not that diversity.

Not a single lady standing in front of the front door. Or firefighters. Or police. You know. Sure. Justin Newcomb says, PSA, if you're worried about election interference and voter fraud, do your civic duty as an American and sign up to work at the polls.

Don't peek through a poll station window to verify integrity. Be a volunteer this year. Yup. Yeah. Yes, indeed. All right. What have we here? Stone Mason says, Good evening, Tim and crew.

An old man taught me the secret to a happy life some years back, and it was quite simple. Oh, okay. Is that a crypto thing you're promoting? Well, I won't read that. All right. Or is he saying buy rum? Well, I'll just, I'll leave it at that.

But I don't drink alcohol, so. It might be a new token or alcohol, rum. Yeah. All right. Fleen Toke says, just tried to give the IRS some money that they say, oh, the website is partially down due to an outage. Don't know what that means, but just wanted to throw that out. I think you should not have to pay it anymore. The website's down.

The clue, I don't want it that badly. It's called a good faith effort. Yeah. Yeah. Can we write it off on that? I'm just kidding. That's bad financial and legal advice. Polly Puree says,

Tim, I wish you would make a bottled mocha frappuccino like Starbucks with less sugar. I would buy it. Oh, dude. I would too. That's what I can't stand about these products. They dump sugar in them. Yeah, they're crazy. It's like, hey, the liquid deaths that we have here,

I think they have like between five and seven grams of sugar and they're great. I don't need 30 to 60 grams of sugar in my drink. I'm not crazy. People do, I guess. Young people do. I don't know, man. At some point you age out of being able to handle that much sugar. I think sugar is just kind of addictive. Like you get used to how sweet something is. And so then you want more and more of it. Hyper palatability kind of thing. Yeah. Like, did you ever, if you like mix sweets, like if you drink Coke and then eat ice cream, the ice cream doesn't taste sweet at all because you've already overloaded your taste buds?

I did not have that experience last night. You were drinking Coke and eating ice cream? Yeah. I'm a grown-up that eats like a child. If you eat something super sweet and then eat something that's slightly less sweet, it tastes less sweet because your body, you know, prioritizes. Well, it's just that you get adapted. And there's only so much I can take anymore.

I used to be the guy that I could eat a whole chocolate cake, and it's game over, and now I eat one, and I'm like, I probably should have done that. It's the marginal utility for sugar, so each, the more sugar you have. I think it's called my 40s. I just... I've never liked cake. It's like a confession. Yeah,

I'd rather have ice cream. Cake is good. How do you feel about private property ownership? It's great. Okay, good. So not a commie, just don't like cake. Yeah, cake is okay. It is one of the tests, just saying. I'll put it this way.

I would rather have lasagna. You know what I mean? Good lasagna is pretty good. Right. So cake is just a sweet treat. That's fine. And if it has frosting. But a lobster risotto, I have always preferred a bowl of lobster bisque over a slice of cake.

Cake's an overrated dessert. It doesn't... I agree. What about a creme brulee? What about... Yeah. What about... That's better.

That's much better. What about a bag of chips? Would you rather have a bag of chips than a slice of cake? Is there dip? Sure. Yes. What kind of chips? Tortilla chips with guacamole over cake any day.

I just think some people are prone. They like salt versus they like sugar, which seems natural, right? Last one. How do you feel about banana pudding with Nilla wafers? I'm a sucker for. Oh, great. I'm going to move to the South.

Isn't that like a classic Southern thing? Yeah. No, it's just more flavor. I'm also a sucker for bananas. I don't like the banana thing. If someone offered me rice pudding or cake, I'd take rice pudding. Cake is okay. It's too much like clumpy, bready, nothing

flavorless, nothing. And the icing's always like, I like ice cream cake. Carvel ice cream cakes. Sure. Iconic. It's okay. I could change your mind, but you need homemade frosting. You can't have the garbage that comes out of the can. Good chocolate chip cookies or oatmeal chocolate chip cookies that are made with a little too much butter so they get nice and a little crispy.

Oatmeal raisin is underrated, frankly. Nah, raisins. This is really devolved. Get the raisins out of there. You bring raisins to dessert and you're getting thrown out. The raisin's like a nice cope that makes me feel nice about myself. Like, oh, no, the raisins. It's healthy. I would

rather have a bowl of oatmeal with some cream than cake. Totally unrelated to any of those things, but I saw a lady the other day who was complaining that people have basically pickled all the things you can pickle. How come they haven't pickled cucumbers yet? And I went like, those people can vote.

That's the thing that I thought about. I was like, that lady, that's a Kamala voter right there. I would rather eat a bowl of spaghetti than cake. Than cake. Yeah, cake's just terrible. I don't know. It's okay. So Tim's birthday, no birthday cake?

Savory treats only. Or lasagna or other pastas. No, you're like anti-carb though, right? Yeah, I'm going to probably have just like a bunch of chicken wings. I'll get... Pollo asada. I'll get the ice cream cake. Or whatever.

I'll get that for your birthday. I saw... I had table-side guacamole today and chicken fajitas. And I always, you know, no cilantro, a lot of my guacamole. Can I throw my idea on how to fix some of these problems

that we've had? Which problems? I was talking to the driver about it. No, no, this is just... The guacamole thing reminded me. You've been to London, yes? Yeah. What's the one thing about the food that you remember?

They have cheese onion sandwiches. Ew. Generally not great food and terrible Mexican food. Hey, hey, hey. The British are doing their best. They've contributed a lot to the whole history. I love British breakfast. I'm, oh, I just.

Amazing. I had this guy. I love pudding, tomato, mushrooms. I can't do it. I had a guy that I just, I just amazing. I had this guy. I love pudding, tomato mushrooms. I had a guy that I, um, was like flatmates with when I was in college. And his name was Andy buttons, which is a great name for a guy from Cornwall.

And he would always tell me, I'm like, what, what is this blood pudding or a black pudding? And he was like, yeah, man, he's like this congealed blood.

And I'm like, ah, pass after all of that. Like I'm good. So here's the thing. We need cultural enrichment. According to the political left, they've told us this.

That's why we have to leave the border open. I would propose that we start a nonprofit where we get cruise ships and they start making treks from the original homeland in Britain down to, let's say, Galveston, Texas. And we start swapping. The original homeland in Britain? Well, I'm talking about the country here. This country has a British root, does it not? We have British common law. Yes, it 100% does.

I don't know if I'd ever call them the homeland. I'm just telling you that we have a strong connection. That's right, it's motherland. Okay, motherland, call it what you like. What I want to see is I want to see the cultural enrichment where we trade some of these people coming in off the southern border, cruise ships full of them, for Brits that are sick of being censored on social media

and that are having a hard time with some of the bad ideas. You want to surrender Britain? I want to bring the Brits here and put them through a Texas indoctrination camp. We make them wear red coats. They have to go out and shoot machine guns that are suppressed at Tannerite targets until they raise the Gadsden flag and then we let them loose and maybe we let them vote too.

Let's just bring them in. Let's Americanize these people. Let's do a one-to-one swap. I disagree. I agree. You've said a lot about this. No, no, no. It's wrong. Excuse me. Wrong. No, no, no. I haven't thought about this. Nope, nope, nope. It's wrong. On crucial. Wrong. Excuse me. Wrong.

No. What we do is when the people cross the border on the south, if they're criminals, they got to go back. But if they're not criminals, and I mean like if they're criminals before crossing the border. If the only crime they committed was crossing the border, then they got to put on the coats, then they got to go do the shooting range with the Tannerite and all that stuff. And in exchange the communist leftists get sent

to Ecuador. We're gonna export people to Ecuador too? Hey look, these I think we should export people to England as well let's do the cruise ship thing, it's fun. I'm saying it's an NGO, we need to have like a boat. The woke left Venezuela awaits. The communist socialists in this country, Venezuela is right there. It's a utopia. Make Venezuela

great again. All you gotta do is take all these lefties and I will pay to help them move to Venezuela. How many are you willing to spot? It depends on the cost of moving to Venezuela. I can't imagine it being too expensive. You're gonna need a boat. Maduro may want some college-educated people

in his country. He may subsidize it. Or he might kill them all off. That's also possible, too. Nah, Maduro is not gonna do that. He's gonna just force. Nah, Maduro is not going to do that. He's going to just force them to do work they might not want to do. You know what I mean? I'd be down to make the UK four new states if need be. You want to annex the entire UK?

Yeah, just four new states. Not until they deal with their massively old immigration problem. What would happen with Ireland and Northern Ireland? Northern Ireland is a US state. We'll just separate them, make them states, get over it. I have a meme that somebody sent me, and it's a MAGA guy, and it's like an IRA guy. He's wearing the beret, and he has like an RPG on his back.

And the MAGA guy goes, I got jailed for walking around in the Capitol on January 6th. And the IRA guy goes, he was like, LOL, you got into the Capitol and you didn't blow it up? They would never respect our culture. They took it so much harder over there. We have to agree that the 80s were harder in every way. I was hoping with Brexit, you know, things were angling.

They're leaving the EU. They're coming closer to us. You know, they're an island. They're not continentally attached. They need to be annexed. Down the line, once we're annexing parts of Canada, northern Mexico when we have to annex Northern Mexico, when we have to annex, unfortunately, when we have to

deal with the cartels, and then we'll bring the UK into the fold as well. So my wife... All of Hannah Clare's ancestors, all of the countries where Hannah Clare's from. Look, I'm happy, you know, I love the relationship between England and the US when both countries are functional. Would you like it better if we just conquered it?

You know, I think actually America does a bad job of ignoring their historic ties to Europe. But the biggest issue is before we annex anybody, let us remove the mass immigration, the mass populations of illegal immigrants who have arrived in them. Because I don't want to annex something and then have to just compound

our current illegal immigration problem. In sha'Allah, Trump will handle that if elected again in 2024. I think he said he was going to do mass deportations. I'd sign up for that. We got a tornado watch going on right now. In West Virginia. Do I live in the studio now?

Am I not going to be able to get home? That's it. You're here. But those only watches. We have a flood warning happening right now. Let's see. And this is from the tropical storm that originally hit North Carolina, I believe. And it actually forced Kamala Harris to postpone a rally, I believe, she was supposed to have there earlier today.

Wow. Look at you. Good tie-in. Everything back into politics. That was well done. That was well done. Reflexive. Everybody was impressed.

Yeah. So do you think people are getting political fatigue a lot because you're on the ground so much oh no we're just getting back into the fold again we're like and we're at the final sprint of the last hundred days uh it's been super exciting happy to see the rallies kick up again um and these are big rallies these aren't just like congress members and like senators having rallies these are presidential candidates having rallies and you And they're introduced by the congressmen and senators. It's a very exciting time. What do you think about Gwen Walls shaking hands with Tim on the stage before hugging him?

Have you ever seen a husband and wife shake hands? I haven't seen that much. Especially with Kamala kissing Doug Emhoff right behind them while they were shaking. I didn't realize how effeminate Doug Emhoff was when I heard him do that fake phone call that they did. I did. I just, this man willingly got called the second husband for,

I understand that part. Like I get like, there's a, there's a posture person, but I'd never actually like listened to him speak and been like, Oh my, like that's a, that is a very weak constitution that he has presented.

I got it. I got to read this one. This is from Barrett 1313. He says pie, apple, pecan, etc. Pie is based. All pies are great. Don't care what they are. If it is a banana cream pie, sure. I'd prefer an apple pie, but pie is great.

Cake? Boring. Pie feels inherently American. I don't know why I feel that way. It's a period dessert. It makes it, when I think of pie, I think of it like on a shelf next to an American flag. A galette is like an open-faced pie. So the crust only covers probably like a third on the outer rim. If it's a cousin of pie, then it's good.

Yeah, it's clearly a cousin. Cake boring. Maybe an even closer relative. Flourless chocolate cake, which is basically fudge, it's okay. I'd prefer that. Fudge is legit. If you add a flourless chocolate lava cake, that's not even cake. That's something else.

That's like a fudgy explosion. I love it. If that happens like a flourless chocolate lava cake, that's not even cake. That's something else. That's like a fudgy explosion. I love it. If that happens, you're at Chili's. Where did I get one of those last? I don't remember. Bricks in Martinsburg. Do they have that?

Yeah, theirs is really good. My buddy tried to bring something up called the Chili's Challenge. He would call girls up that he was friends with and invite them to lunch. And then they'd be like, where do you want to go? And he'd be like, I don't know where you want to go. And they'd be like, I don't know. And he'd be like, how about Chili's? And he would always like offer Chili's. And then they would be really mad about it and insulted.

Like for some reason, women are really angry about going to Chili's. And then he would always do like this half-assed recovery. He's like, you know, they have like pretty good service and the food's always like pretty normal. And they'd be like, I'm not interested. I'm not going there. He would call like one person a week and try to make this. You can't make Chili's happen apparently. Really?

I don't want to go to Chili's. I'll take my wife to Chili's in a heartbeat. I don't care. Would you rather go to Chili's or Applebee's? Chili's. See want to go to Chili's. I'll take my wife to Chili's in a heartbeat. I don't care. Would you rather go to Chili's or Applebee's? Chili's. See? Oh, Applebee's. A hundred times out of a hundred.

Applebee's. But I used to work at Chili's. I worked at multiple Chili's. So you're brainwashed. You don't count. Clearly. I worked at the original Chili's in North Dallas and in Texas, and then I also worked at the highest volume Chili's at the time in Oklahoma City.

Wow. I got some Chili's cred. So, just saying. Are they going to sponsor your show? He's very chill. Absolutely not. No, it's Brinker International. They're woke as all get out.

Like, they're that. Ruby Tuesday is a salad bar, don't they? Yeah, I think they do. They win. I got kicked out of a Ruby Tuesday because I wouldn't wear a mask with my girls. Oh, then no. There's a restaurant in Martinsburg

that has a nacho bar. Nacho bar is a good idea. No, but I know this now. They have that at Chewy's. They always have that at Chewy's. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Which is an Austin original, but now they have them in Virginia.

So you can find them up here. Chewy's are... There's one in Woodbridge for sure. We were looking for a restaurant, and then someone recommended this restaurant in Martinsburg. I forgot what it's called, but they were like, they have a nacho bar. So you go, and you just... They say nacho bar is just nacho bar. You do whatever you want, and there's chips, and there's all this...

You're like, whose bar is this? You're like, I don't know. It's nacho bar. Oh, it was nuts. I just took the whole thing of sour cream and just dumped it on the plate. I am a dad. I got four kids. These restaurants sound nice, but Lebanese and Palestinian restaurants are far superior.

Okay, Brooklyn. Just calm down. Is it Palestinian? Yeah, Lebanese and Palestinian food. Where's Palestinian food? It's like Lebanese food. It's just Middle Eastern. I do like Lebanese.

A little bit more terroristic? A little bit. I think they're falafel-shaped a little differently. Huh. Do you ever have Turkish food? Like, isn't it just different kebabs? No, they have this, they have a dessert. Is that offensive?

They have a dessert that looks like vanilla pudding, but it's actually made of pulled chicken. I don't want that. So it's delicious. I believe you, but I don't want it. And it's crazy. So I went in and I was like, oh, what's this? And then I get the dessert and I got it. And I's crazy. So I went in and I was like, oh, what's this? And they're like, it's a dessert.

And I got it. And I'm like, this is great. It's like cinnamon vanilla pudding. And my friend, Turkish guy, is like, it's chicken. And I was like, ha ha. He's like, no, it's chicken. And then he looked it up and explained it to me. And he's like, you pull the chicken and then you mix it with something.

I was like, well, it's delicious. So I'll eat it. And then they have something that they call the Iskander. And it's because it's named after Alexander the Great is what he told me and he said that it's because his name was Alexander and they thought Al is the so they thought it was The Exander so they made a food called

The Iskander I'm for weird names Islak Burger in Taksim Square if you're ever in Taksim because I don't know who would want to be there right now but the glorious after hours bar food is called the Wet Hamburger, the Islak Burger. And it is like a lamb burger and a bun. They dip in this oily sauce and then put under a heat lamp.

And it's basically people who are getting out of the bars and drunk and want food. It's like a buck. And then you get this. It's so good. It's a soggy, wet burger. Anyway, we're going to wrap it up there. My friends, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel,

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