Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1093 RFK Jr Team Prep TRUMP ENDORSEMENT, Fear Helping Kamala Harris Win w/Brandon Straka

Episode Date: August 21, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, & Ian are joined by Brandon Straka to discuss RFK Jr considering dropping out & endorsing Trump, Biden repeating the "very fine people" hoax again during his speech at the DNC, Kam...ala Harris proposing a tax on unrealized capital gains, and Democrats losing it over Matt Walsh appearing at the DNC. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Guest: Brandon Straka @BrandonStraka | @RealWalkAway (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So apparently right now at the at the DNC, Matt Walsh is in disguise on the DNC floor and they're all getting really mad about it. So, you know, that's funny. But we do have big news. RFK Jr., his team, very angry about how the Democrats have waged lawfare against them, have announced that they're they're planning potentially to drop out and endorse donald trump so uh this is actually a pretty big news we'll talk about that plus kamala harris's unrealized gains tax that says only for the wealthy i think would would probably be the destruction of this country and they know it they know it so we'll talk about that plus we'll talk a little bit about uh what joe biden was saying last night and a bunch of other stories. I'm really I'm getting in really interested to see what's going on with Matt Walsh there. They're saying he's posing as a delegate. So it's going to be pretty funny. And they're doing their fake vote right now, which is funny because they already
Starting point is 00:00:56 voted for her. And there's like a there's like a chyron saying, like, technically, they already voted for her like last week. So this is just celebratory. So anyway, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, head over to casprew.com, buy Casper Coffee to support the show. And we got a bunch of different flavors. We've got Appalachian Nights. We've got Graphene Dream, Ian's Low Acidity Coffee. Everybody loves it. You want to support the show, you can go to casprew.com. We are in fact using the proceeds from Casper. We've not taken any out. It's all going to expanding the company. And we're hoping to get our coffee shop up and running as soon as possible. It's in a historic building, so it is what it is,
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Starting point is 00:02:07 Who are you? What do you do? I want this full story. Oh, thank you. Sorry, I'm Brandon Strzok, founder of the Walkway Campaign. And for anybody who maybe has been on social media in the last week, I just dropped a new video talking about all the things the Democrats have done to destroy the country over the last six years, which has been kind of blowing up on X. Give it a look if you haven't seen it yet and share it out. And also, Walkway's running a big contest we'll be talking about.
Starting point is 00:02:30 The Walkway $10,000 Testimonial Video Challenge. That sounds cool. Really cool. We're giving away $10,000 to the best walkaway video. Like the best explanation, most charismatic revelation about how they walked away from the Democratic Party? Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Between now and basically November 1st. So we're taking in videos. People can go to walkwaychallenge.com to check it out. But yeah, we just want people to share their walkway stories and we're going to give away $10,000. Well, if you didn't figure it out yet, I'm back. What's up, everybody? Good to see you guys. And what a night to be here with you, dude. Always love seeing Brandon
Starting point is 00:03:00 Strock in the house. I'm back from Miami where I was doing a lung cleanse, playing a crap load of music and controlling the weather. I don back from Miami where I was doing a lung cleanse, playing a crap load of music, and controlling the weather. I don't know if you guys do this a lot, but you can use your magnetic field. Yeah, dude. You use your magnetic field to interact with the cloud's magnetic field, and you send positive energy into the clouds. It disperses
Starting point is 00:03:16 them like oil into water. Or you can draw negative energy and create vortexes. I did it in front of Luke. He'll ask Luke about it 100%. I've done it every time I do it, it works. So you go to like a hurricane zone then and help people. It works. It's more effective when there's high moisture content in the air, it's easier to move it around in deserts and stuff. It's, it's a little more challenging. Like the Bahamas when they got pummeled by a hurricane. Yeah. We were getting a night, we were out on the beach and it was just
Starting point is 00:03:40 dark clouds coming in. Everyone was worried about rain. So I did the positive energy folk channeling positive energy and they just dispersed. So we had a nice evening. Then Luke was like, make it rain, dude. I was like, are you sure, man? Cause he's like, make it rain. So I focused the negative energy like in three seconds,
Starting point is 00:03:53 lightning shattered across the sky. And I just kept focusing the negative energy and it just kept coming. And he looked on the radar. He's like, it looks like a tornado is coming. So it started to rain. People were running, covering their heads. So I started to focus the positive energy again and slowly got pushed it all away again well that proves it
Starting point is 00:04:09 yeah anyway hannah claire's here too hi i'm hannah claire brimelow i'm a writer for scnr.com that's scanner news check out their work at tim kess news thanks for joining us let's get started anyway back to reality we have the story from the guardian rfk jr considers dropping out to help trump running mate says nicole shannon says she she an independent 2024 candidate could walk away and join forces with Donald Trump. I think I have walk away. Look at that. Here's the clip for you guys. Let's just roll tape. There's two options that we're looking at. And one is staying in in forming that new party but we run the risk of a kamala hair kamala harrison and waltz uh presidency because we draw votes from trump or we draw somehow more
Starting point is 00:04:54 votes from trump or we walk away right now and join forces with Donald Trump. And, you know, we walk away from that and we explain to our base why we're making this decision. Not easy. Clearly. Yeah. So I think the big story was that they got pulled off of the ballot in New York. I think that was huge news. And in this podcast, actually a much, much longer conversation, Shanann talks about how they're basically waging, the Democrats are waging extreme lawfare against them.
Starting point is 00:05:32 And Trump's actually been receptive to their ideas. And I've been saying this, RFK Jr.'s passion for compulsive chronic illnesses and environmental toxinsulsive, chronic illnesses and environmental toxins. That's the Trump path right there. He goes to Trump, gives Trump the endorsement. Trump should put him on some kind of board managing or overseeing this kind of stuff. Yeah, I thought actually, I haven't seen very many interviews
Starting point is 00:05:56 with Nicole Shanahan. And I actually thought this one was pretty compelling. It's obviously a deeply emotional conversation for her. And they covered a lot of stuff, including policies. But she said that the DNC has effectively sabotaged them and they have this PAC that has been using millions of dollars to target them specifically. She even alluded to people being in their campaigns specifically to, you know, cause chaos and all kinds of problems. But I found it really interesting hearing her talk about the effect of being a third party candidate. She said, you know, if we get 5% or more of the vote, then that unlocks public funding for us. That means that next year in 2028,
Starting point is 00:06:33 we could run a more legitimate third party candidate. And 71% of Americans want that. I don't know where she got that number from, but I believe it. I think there are a lot of Americans who are frustrated with the stranglehold the two dominant parties have on American politics. And so when I first saw this clip this morning, I thought, hopefully she has talked to RFK and he knows that she's saying these things publicly. Otherwise, it really seems like there's chaos within their ticket. But it is interesting to hear her way, sort of like what it means to be a third party candidate in America versus what is actually good for the country. But don't you feel like the fact that they're basically being bullied out by the Democrats and all the and the Democrats using all the usual tactics, lawfare, corrupt, devious behavior, all of these things. And they're willing to actually get behind Trump if they drop out. I mean, doesn't that tell you so much? And it wasn't even a consideration from the beginning for them. It seems like for them to join or endorse Harris's campaign.
Starting point is 00:07:35 She even said, Shanahan said she regretted supporting Democrats in the past. It's the biggest mistake of her life. I mean, that's pretty strong language. And she's saying, you know, she had this line where she's like, we didn't want to be a spoiler candidate, but the DNC has forced us into a position where we are. And we wanted to win. We wanted a fair shot. And the DNC has made that impossible. But she's not saying that they're being bullied and pushed around by both camps. No, she said specifically it was not the RNC. Right. Yeah. But doesn't
Starting point is 00:08:00 that tell you so much? You know, as the left is telling us that we're the authoritarians, we're the biggest, we're the ones abusing lawfare. No, I mean, this should prove it. They installed a candidate. Kamala Harris was an installation no one voted for. That's crazy. That's full authoritarianism. And this is kind of an example of with in politics. I'm a bit of an idealist just in life and in general.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And I like in 2016, I voted for Jill Stein because I'm like, I don't like Hillary. I don't like Trump. I'm voting for the one I believe in the most. But the thing about politics is it's a game. It's like it's like a game of organization and strategy where you vote against sometimes to get things through. You make deals with people that you don't agree with to get your part of your deal through, like what the Libertarian Party did with Chase Oliver. They basically colluded behind the scenes to get that guy into power. That the two of the front runners decided together,
Starting point is 00:08:49 like, let's just bury the hatchet and we'll make chase our candidate. So that Russell. Yeah. And, and, and the reality is if you, if you want to,
Starting point is 00:08:57 it destroyed the party. It's, it's, it's ripped the libertarian party to shreds. You've got Mises, uh, Mises caucus, libertarian party members openly endorsing Donald Trump right now.
Starting point is 00:09:07 The Libertarian Party's backroom deals with their garbage candidates destroyed whatever chance they had. But you know what? I got to tell you. I was saying this this morning. I would not want to be Clint or Dave if Trump loses. If you actually were the nominee for the Libertarian Party and Trump lost and they actually did get three or four percent everyone's going to be like it's your fault that that three percent could have got trump over one just out to dinner with clint last weekend on friday i think it was and he said the exact same thing he's like could you have imagined if we did it and then
Starting point is 00:09:37 trump i was like you guys would have got 12 percent vote you and dave and he's like we probably would have taken it from trump too so here's my question for you ian you say you don't know if you want to vote for Donald Trump. You'd consider voting for him if RFK drops out and endorses him. No, I would. So you pointed out that Kamala Harris was installed. No one voted for her. And so we're presented with two scenarios.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Let's let's throw all policy aside. No, Kamala Harris and Tim Walz haven't presented any. And let's just entertain the surface. Fascistic, authoritarian threats threats to democracy, etc. This is what everyone's saying right now. It's polarization. It's tribal. You know, Joe Rogan recently, he was talking to, I think it was Russell Crowe.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And he's saying, you know, it's all my team, tribal this, tribal that. I think that statement exemplifies exactly what I was warning about with these Trump influencers who are attacking Joe. Joe is like, I'm outside this, man. I don't want to be involved in your cat fight. dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino. The excitement doesn't stop there. With over 3,000 games to choose from, including fan favorites like Cash Eruption, UFC Gold Blitz, and more, make deposits instantly to jump in on the fun and make same-day withdrawals if you win. Download the BetMGM Ontario app today. You don't want to miss out. Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions.
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Starting point is 00:11:35 And there was a brutal internal conflict. And even Vivek Ramaswamy, he's running. And there were a lot of now his strategy was play nice with Trump, but see if I can mulch that support from people who think Trump may not be the right guy right now. A lot of people were on Team Vivek saying, no, no, we Trump is great. He's a smart guy. He was mistreated. We like Vivek, though. They were trying to be very careful about how they went about it. DeSantis's people were brutal. I mean, they were absolutely brutal. They were insulting people. They were attacking them. And the Trump supporters were attacking the DeSantis people through this primary. You ended up with DeSantis supporters begrudgingly saying, fine, you guys win. Trump's the candidate.
Starting point is 00:12:14 We still don't like him, but we recognize he's better than Kamala. There is a faction. There are numerous factions on the right who have chosen to or not to vote for Donald Trump in the primary, resulting in him ultimately being the winner. And now many people say, fine or not to vote for Donald Trump in the primary, resulting in him ultimately being the winner. And now many people say, fine, I'll vote for Trump because I've weighed the pros and cons and it makes sense. On the Democrat side, they installed her. They cheated the primary. They ripped off RFK Jr. in the past Bernie Sanders twice. They did it to make sure there could be no popular selection in the Democratic Party. And so surface level threat to democracy. You we're looking at two front runners, Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 00:12:53 It's laughably absurd, but don't disrespect the polls. Maybe they're right. Maybe they're wrong. Who cares? And Donald Trump. Donald Trump is the candidate of a brutal primary process and a Democratic process among people who thought, fine, he's not he's not my candidate but i'd consider voting for him and the trump supporters who are screaming and cheering
Starting point is 00:13:09 and banging their head saying we love trump no matter what the democrat side is people screaming and cheering kamala kamala despite the fact nobody voted for in the first place i don't see how you don't vote trump yeah the only reason the only way i would not vote trump is if i really really hated the guy or disliked him or disapproved of his policies or something. But this is the reason I bring this up. You are not voting for Trump. You are voting for the last vestige of an actual democratic process. If the Democrats succeed, it's not just about Kamala Harris becoming president and winning power.
Starting point is 00:13:41 It's about them proving they can steal it. And I've been thinking that all day, dude. It's so disheartening to think that they just installed a candidate and that people are cheering. And and so so on the surface is my point. You're not just voting for candidates. You're voting for two systems. Trump represents an ugly system where people fight. Trump is by far not the best candidate anyone could absolutely hope for. He's the best we've got. And I think marginally good in a lot of areas, particularly foreign policy, was pretty good. Despite the fact many people don't like each other, we've come together and said, this is how America works. We ultimately say this is what's best for the country,
Starting point is 00:14:17 even if it's not exactly what we want. The Democrats are take it or else we control the system. You get no say. And they're celebrating right now at the DNC. Which system are you voting for? Because if the Democrats succeed in this endeavor, it lays the groundwork for what this country becomes in the next four, eight, 12, 16 years. They are going to repeat the process and they're going to say, we no longer need democracy. We no longer need to allow anyone vote. We, the political elites, decide who's in charge. And the people of this country have supported that. I guess technically that's what superdelegates have been the entire time. This is just blatant. Now they've just blatantly shown us they didn't even
Starting point is 00:14:52 use superdelegates this time. Or maybe they did. I'm not sure how they installed her exactly. They did, but they decided outside of a primary. The primary chose Joe Biden, and they knew from the beginning this was, you will never convince me they didn't know that we were going this direction. That's why I'll scream it to the high heavens in September, I think, 13th. I put out a video my morning show saying Biden will not be the nominee. I said, after everything we've seen, I have no idea how we could possibly be the nominee. And of course, I had my doubts after that. I'm like, man, it's March. I don't know how they pull them out if it's even possible. they did it. Everybody was predicting this.
Starting point is 00:15:26 We knew they were playing a dirty game, a shadow campaign. My point ultimately is this. Donald Trump has policies, I think, mostly good. We can argue some of them and say, well, that one doesn't seem right. He's had bad hires. He had Operation Warp Speed. We disagree. But at least it still represents people choosing through a democratic system. If you
Starting point is 00:15:46 don't support that, it doesn't matter what Kamala Harris supports because we don't even know what she supports. She's lied and she's got garbled nonsense and no policies on her website. You are basically saying autocratic America from this point forward. I like that. I like the idea, not the autocratic America, but I like the idea that you're voting for a system and not a person. I think it's terrifying. I don't think it should be that way. It shouldn't be. It should be that the Democrats offer up someone who's marginally good and the Republicans offer up someone who's marginally good.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And we go, oh, we roll our eyes and say, well, look, you know, ultimately there's a few social issues. That's how it used to be. Don't screw it up too bad. Good luck. Now the real American election was DeSantis versus Trump. That was the actual election where we're trying to decide, do we want a Ron DeSantis style governance? It's calm.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It's less ostentatious, I suppose I can call it, or Trump, which is more aggressive. Trump represents slightly different policies from Ron DeSantis. Ron DeSantis is a little bit more. I think he represented the right populist faction a bit better than Trump did. You know, Ron DeSantis was very critical of some of the things that Trump had done. And Ron's governance in Florida very much reflected the will of many, like the popular positions of the right. But Donald Trump has the charisma to win. So there was a big debate over whether Trump was the right guy, DeSantis was the right guy. Long story short, we chose. We voted. Brandon, when you walked away from the Democratic Party, was it because of the way that they
Starting point is 00:17:07 handled the 2016 election with Hillary subverting Bernie? What was it exactly? No, I was a big Hillary supporter. And I actually supported Hillary going back to 2008 when she was it was her versus Obama. And then when it became Obama, I got behind him and I supported him. No, for me, it mostly had to do with the media and the way that the media manipulates and, you know, basically carries water for the Democrats. Because when Trump got elected in 2016, the media that I trusted, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, etc. By that point, they were saying he had a 3% chance of winning. So I didn't even question that she was going to win in a landslide.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Like, it was 100%. So then when she didn't, I was like, what the hell just happened? How is it possible that the media that I trusted got this so wrong? And also, they've been saying for 18 months that he is the second coming of Hitler. Why would anybody vote for him? Not only why did he win, but like, why are people, why does anyone support this? And so my journey began with asking these questions, you know, how did the media get it wrong? Why would anybody vote for him? And then
Starting point is 00:18:13 I just kind of went back to the beginning of the campaign and I researched every moment that they had lied about. Did he call Mexicans rapists? Did he mock a disabled reporter? Did he advocate for, you know, expelling Muslims from this country? And what I discovered time and time again was in every single instance, they were taking something that wasn't true at all, but isolating a soundbite and kind of creating their own narrative. And that they're just basically a propaganda arm for the Democratic Party. Well, take a look at what just happened the other day from S.E.N.R. Biden repeats debunked very fine people claim during his DNC speech. I think we have the clip here. Take a listen to take a listen to this. We'll pull this
Starting point is 00:18:51 one up here on X from Kyle Becker. Nearly four years ago. He's got the full clip. It's five minutes on the steps of the Capitol on a cold January day. I'm not going to play the full five minute clip, but he actually said Donald Trump said, and I quote, there are very fine people on both sides. My God, that's what he said. That is what he said. That's what he meant. It's a lie. And he knows it's a lie. He knows it's a lie. Of course he does. The Democrats know it's a lie. So ultimately it comes down to this. And I ask again, I don't understand where Joe Rogan, Dave Smith, Michael Maas, Clinton Russell, Luke Rutkowski. Now, Luke has worn the shirt saying convicted felon for president. So I think it's clear Luke intends
Starting point is 00:19:30 to vote for Donald Trump. But to and I don't know where Michael and Dave are. I'm just saying these are, you know, Joe Rogan's a middle of the road guys, independent. He's like, I don't know. RFK makes sense to me. Dave Smith is a libertarian. He's a caucus guy. Michael is an anarchist. But I have to imagine each one of these people in any rational conversation says, yeah, you got to vote for Trump. There's no there's no question. Donald Trump represents at the bare minimum the last thread of a democratic process in this country. form and upsetting half of the people I know in the world and ostracizing myself from their cultural realm is discerning, disconcerting, because I want to I want to make them happy through music and I want them doing so that I can bring people together. But I have to with my I follow my integrity and look back on this is like I voted for the system. I wanted to maintain the democratic process where you get to vote and choose your candidates.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I cannot i cannot tolerate a system where we're just given candidates that's monarchy or totalitarianism so how could you then say now that you wouldn't vote for donald trump well i was going to vote for rfk and this is actually that they might be throwing their way behind rfk he hasn't dropped out so like if it if rfk if rfk doesn't drop out and he doesn't endorse donald trump are you going to vote for trump are you going to vote for rfk probably r to vote for RFK? Probably RFK. So I can respect anybody saying they want to vote for who they want to vote for because that's the right candidate. Because if everyone did, this country would be very different. They're very different. But I also respect the point
Starting point is 00:20:54 that you're basically not voting. Yeah, I know you got to play the political game. That's my life. My ideological bent is like it just doesn't mesh with politics. Can I ask, though, why not? If RFK drops out and you're willing to vote for Trump, why not just vote for Trump anyway, knowing that RFK can't win? Man, you know, the main reason why I've been resistant to vote for Trump in the last year or two is because I don't want to upset half the people I know. It's a real weak way to do it. But I'm like, if I can just hold on and be the cultural center of my reality, and you
Starting point is 00:21:24 don't have to tell people who you vote for. That's part of this process, is the secret ballots. Probably the purpose of it is so you don't have to upset half the people you know. So maybe I just won't vote and not tell anyone who I did or didn't vote for. That is the secret Trump voter that we're hoping exists
Starting point is 00:21:39 and turns out. I think there are. I think a lot of people, and maybe people don't think this is true in 2016. But 2016 in particular, I felt like there were so many people were like, oh, no, I didn't vote. But they would if you like knew them well enough would be like, I voted for Trump. They didn't want to admit it. You know, I want to go back to something you said before, which is talking about the propaganda arm of the DNC. And I think this is such a big part of how Democratic campaigns in America work right now. It's made me think of Tim Walz, this vice president who is getting caught time and time
Starting point is 00:22:11 again in these sort of like half lies. Like the thing today is he had implied, you know, he said J.D. Vance is a bad guy and he's saying bad stuff about IVF, which is very personal to me and my wife, implying that he had used in vitro fertilization to have his children. It turns out he's had used IUI, a different fertility treatment. But again, it's just these misdirection and lies at a certain point. Like you just wonder why they cannot pick an honest path at all. And I think ultimately it's because they have certain punches they want to throw and they'll do whatever they can to try and make the Republicans look bad at the cost of their integrity to the voters. I kind of just think they're evil. They're like manipulative imperialists. Look, look, everybody's encountered someone like this, be it in Magic the
Starting point is 00:22:54 Gathering or a sporting event, basketball, golf, people who lie about their scores, people who slip cards on top of the deck, people who cheat because it's the fastest path towards victory. People cheat. They exist. And the Democratic Party represents the cheater coalition coalescing. I'm not going to give Republicans an easy pass on this one. The Republican Party's garbage for the most part. But Donald Trump represents something slightly different. But none of that none of that actually matters. What matters is right now, sure, the Republicans have their bad elements, McCarthy McCarthy backroom deals. I'm glad Matt Gaetz got him ousted. But at least we chose who the candidate was going to be for us. And it was brutal. And friendships were lost. people had come on this show and we got into arguments over the Republican primary. The Democratic Party is it's a cult. They've selected. They cheer. They're voting for nothing. There's no
Starting point is 00:23:51 campaign promises. There's no policies. That's the terrifying reality right now. You're talking about cheating and how like in games you don't cheat. You don't sportsmanship is real in games. If you cheat, you honor. But in war, you cheat to win. You do whatever you got to do to win in war or you die. There is no there's no cheating in war. Exactly cheat to win. You do whatever you got to do to win in war or you die. There is no cheating in war. Exactly. And that's how I think these politicians are treating it. It's like, this is control of the military.
Starting point is 00:24:11 This is why I say Donald Trump lost in 2020. Joe Biden won. And it's because Republicans, it was a really funny, we had a great super chat last night where they said that the Democrats are the Romulans and the Republicans are the Klingons. And for those that don't know anything about Star Trek, basically the Romulans in the series are dirty, deceitful, arrogant. They use false flag attacks. And the Klingons are an honor-bound race that couldn't dare, but they're actually still kind of corrupt. It's actually a pretty funny comparison for those that don't know. But Republicans are like, but we won the argument.
Starting point is 00:24:44 We successfully argued our positions and everyone agreed with us. How did we lose? We didn't lose. You cheated. And the Democrats are like, all is fair in love and war. The Democrats were like, while you were so busy looking at the spirit of the rules, we rules lawyered to make sure we were going to win any way we could because power doesn't care how you got it.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And the Republicans keep doing this. And I hope to God they're not doing it this time where they're like, if we just argue again, we'll win. And Democrats are going, don't tell him anything. Don't give him policies. Don't give him a candidate. Just bring the ballots to the college room dorm and have him sign it and then mail it. And then we win. That's how you take power.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Yeah. And they use the fear, fear of Trump to get to garner support, fear. And I mean, it's all the Trump is Hitler stuff is all about background noise so that when they go to a college dorm and knock on the door and say, hey, you guys voting for Kamala joy, joy and hope. And they're going to go, OK, and they're going to fill out the mail in ballot. They're going to hand it to the ballot harvester. And that's the end of it.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I saw Harry Sisson, who I don't know him very well, but him and his buddy posted a Twitter thing about, we're voting for change. And I was like, oh my God, it's 2008 all over again. What is changing? What are you talking about changing? Ready to level up? Chumba Casino is your playbook to fun.
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Starting point is 00:26:25 This is the whole amazing thing about having Biden speak first, which is if he doesn't speak, a lot of speeches yesterday were like, hope and things are different and we're going to move forward. And then Biden got up and amongst a lot of stuff was like tying Kamala Harris very much to his political legacy. This is why he was the first night. They're trying to pretend like they're not the incumbent party so they can say things are going to get better. And we don't know why they're bad right now. Probably that mean Donald Trump when actually they have been in control of the
Starting point is 00:26:52 presidency for four years and Democratic policies have not done well for American families. You can ask them that, you know, anytime anyone has to pay a grocery bill, I'm sure they are not thinking, thanks, Democrats. Here's my here's my campaign idea. It's to make, you know, the Obama poster of hope, make the same thing of Kamala Harris, but have it say change back, because that's what they're actually offering. They say change, it's change back. They want to go back to when Barack Obama was blowing up kids in foreign countries, was destabilizing the Middle East. Hillary Clinton was saying, we came, we saw he died. Can't we just drone him? That's what they want to change.
Starting point is 00:27:27 They want to change it back to what we were doing then. I think their goal of how to solve inflation is conquest. And that's been the goal for the last 15 years. We could retrofit our economy by fixing our fuel supply system and start using hydrogen fuel, like, through the methane chain and just— Now, hold on, hold on. Which candidate is that? None of them. I haven't heard anyone talk about it yet. Actually, Unle unleash american energy in all its forms is donald trump's first campaign had don trump on his uh twitter space which was fascinating i'm sure you guys covered it i think
Starting point is 00:27:53 you're actually listening to it don trump i like d bones um and they didn't bring up hydrogen or graphene so that's my role in this whole process is i've got to re-enliven or inspire them to start talking about hydrogen and graphene because that's one way to fix the economy without having to conquest. And that's the first proposal from Trump's Agenda 47, which is unleash American energy, which includes nuclear power. And so, hey, that's actually that actually makes sense. That's an argument. We've got economic issues. How can we fix this?
Starting point is 00:28:21 Lower the cost of energy, increase the supply of energy, and the costs stabilize. They don't necessarily always come down in a dramatic fashion, but it should lower costs. Typically, it should allow people to make more money and should help alleviate some of the problems. Problem is limiting growth. I think this is the whole world economic forum. They say they say reduce population. They're just trying to limit growth because if humans grow too fast, they'll consume themselves or somebody will get too much power too quickly and start another war. Some corporation will become. So they want to limit growth because if humans grow too fast, they'll consume themselves or too much. Somebody will get too much power too quickly and start another war. Some corporation will become, so they want to limit growth. And the problem is if you unleash energy, completely unleash it, then there's no limitation on growth anymore and people might outgrow themselves. So that's the concern with, with fully unleashing the energy supply. I'm open to, to unleash probably
Starting point is 00:29:04 isn't the right word because if you let a dog off the leash, there's no more control of the dog. You got to hope that it's trained and humans aren't trained. So now you're playing semantics now. Well, yeah, but he's, he's saying let's invest in energy. That's good. But there is this growth limitation thing that we got to take into account. And I kind of see that's my, my utilitarian understanding. Elon Musk solves that problem. So you see that field of starships that he has? No. You didn't see the video?
Starting point is 00:29:26 No. Where they're like showing, he's got like three or four starships built and ready for testing because they go up and they blow up and they gotta make them. Yeah, it's called human expansion as we've always done.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And then the left is the party of, what's that book about the gorilla? Psychic gorilla? Ishmael? Yeah, we should get it in here. They're the party of, what's that book about the gorilla, psychic gorilla? Ishmael. Ishmael. We should get in here. They're the party of degrowth. They want people to go back to living in the streams, in the rivers, in the caves. They want you to live in the pod and eat the bugs. Elon Musk is a reason why he's talking to Donald Trump. Donald Trump wants to unleash energy, wants human expansion. Human expansion is fantastic so long as it's technologically moving forward.
Starting point is 00:30:10 So Elon Musk is like, hey, everything I want to do, the expansion of population, Elon Musk gets it. We need more people. Fact. The reason why we – and I was thinking about this. It's really funny. I was watching The Prestige. You ever see that movie? No, I haven't.
Starting point is 00:30:22 With Edward – no, no, no. It's Christian Bale and Hugh Jackman. And they're talking about, they're magicians. They're doing stage shows. And it starts, Christian Bale's very poor. And he's doing this poor show. But then he comes up with a really great trick. And now he's making money.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And then he buys a house. It's fascinating. The shows back then, they've got 200 people in the audience. But if you did a show to 200 people, you know, four or five nights a week, you could you're rich. You were buying a house and supporting a family doing magic. Go back a thousand years and try and do magic for your tribe of 100 people. They're going to be like, we need food. Stop doing the weird thing with your hands. Go get food. Unless you're making it rain. When more. What is it? Many hands make light work. And so the more people you have, the more specialties exist,
Starting point is 00:31:05 the more technological expansion there can be. Elon gets the basic fundamentals of this. That's why Elon and Trump have found, you know, strange bedfellows or whatever it may be. Elon wants to build spaceships and go to Mars and colonize and travel and human expansion. You need energy for that. You need technology for that. The party of live in the pot and eat the bugs are not going to bring you there. They're going to reduce population. They have a vasectomy truck at the DNC. This is But we need some sort of evolution where we just breach the gap into maybe unlimited today. And she was saying she was asked directly, are we going to hear more about Kamala Harris's campaign policies because she doesn't have any listed? And, you know, or is the is the convention going to kind of set them? And she said, oh, you know, well, she represents the party and the party represents her. And it's this vague dodge answer. There is more cohesion around the way the DNC, in my opinion, and you would maybe have a
Starting point is 00:32:22 better insight than I would, Brandon, but the way it has always been, whereas Elon Musk, Donald Trump and Republicans are really going through an evolutionary expansion process like they are changing as the world is changing. And I don't think that's true for Democrats right now. Yeah, I mean, I have some I personally have issues with the Republican Party not keeping up with the times. I definitely agree. I think that Trump is bringing us more in that direction. But I actually wanted to address something you were saying earlier when you were talking about the issues that are driving people, I think, away from Kamala. I've been staying in New York for a couple of weeks. And I actually have had a couple of experiences there that I thought were really eye-opening and a little bit reassuring.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I'm staying in a hotel. There's three people who work at the hotel who all happen to be Hispanic people working behind the front desk. I've been wearing my Trump shirts every day in New York, just to kind of gauge what the people on the street are feeling and getting a lot of really positive reaction to them. But when I was at the hotel, one of the shirts I have is a picture of Trump and he's putting up two middle fingers that says one for Biden, one for Harris hotel, one of the shirts I have is a picture of Trump and he's putting up two middle fingers that says one for Biden, one for Harris. So one of the girls behind the desk says to me, your shirt is really funny. And I was like, oh, you like it? And she was like, yeah. And I said, are you into politics? And she's like, yeah, a little bit. And I said, were you ever a Democrat?
Starting point is 00:33:37 And she was like, oh, yeah, I was a Democrat my whole life. And I said, are you planning to vote for Trump? And she was like, well, yeah, I actually think I am. Now, this, again, three young, like, Hispanic people. And I just said, that's reassuring, you know, because I think, you know, I'm a little bit concerned right now about where we are. And she said to me, she's like, oh, no, no, no, Kamala's not going to win. Kamala's not going to win. She said nobody in New York is going to vote for Kamala. Everyone in New York is leaving the Democratic Party. People are totally sick of what's going on right now.
Starting point is 00:34:08 So I don't know. I walk around and people are loving my Trump shirts. And I think that there's more of us than people think. Secret Trump voters. But let's let's jump to the story from Watcher Guru. Kamala Harris supports President Biden's 44.6 percent capital gains tax proposal. This from a couple of days ago. They say that Vice President Kamala Harris has declared her support for Biden's 44.6 percent capital gains proposal would be the highest in history. It also includes a 25 percent tax on unrealized gains for high net worth individuals, more than 100 million dollars in wealth. Harris's campaign shared support for the tax proposal as the 2024 DNC is underway. Harris spoke Monday at the event in Chicago along with President Biden. The Democratic nominee has also proposed tax cuts beyond Biden's budget.
Starting point is 00:34:49 These include an exemption for tipped workers, a $6,000 tax credit for parents of newborns, and an expanded child tax credit that the Biden budget doesn't extend beyond 2025. She also proposed bumping the corporate tax rate to 28%. Her campaign said Monday the current corporate tax rate is 21. It's down from 35 percent after Donald Trump signed the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which will expire after 2025. Now, I can't speak for every company, but I'll make a few points here. For us, if the corporate tax rate goes up. Look, we reinvest everything, right? So when money comes in, we figure out ways to spend it on the company,
Starting point is 00:35:27 hiring people, creating jobs. Everything we do results in more people having a job. So if we're going to say, build a new studio like we did, we're hiring the contractors that we work with. They get paid. They feed their families. It works out.
Starting point is 00:35:42 That's the economy works. So I don't really care that much about corporate tax rate stuff, because as long as companies are reinvesting anyway, all it means is you're shaving off a thin amount of their margins. But that could put them at risk and it will result in increased prices then because an obligation to the shareholders at larger corporations. So for us. But I want to talk about this. This is the big news that's actually going viral. The unrealized gains tax, the wealth tax, they call it. They're saying right now it's for those with more than $100 million in wealth, which is very, very few people. But this is how it begins. Income tax, as many people know, began as a small tax on the ultra wealthy, and it expanded all the way up until where we're at right now. Here's the easy way to understand it. If 100 years ago, they were like, anybody making more than $250,000, you know, we're going to put a tax on that. You're rich. You make $250,000 a year. I mean, and we're talking 100 years ago. That ain't nothing. That's massive. I think that's the equivalent to hundreds of millions of dollars per year or some ridiculous number. So, or not hundreds of millions, but probably tens of millions. What happens 100 years later? That upper limit for the tax bracket still
Starting point is 00:36:49 there doesn't change. So I'll put it this way. I don't believe the number will stay at 100 million. It will be reduced. It will go down to 50 or 25. It's never going to make enough money. But I tell you this. Imagine this scenario. This is why this is why wealth taxes don't work. You buy a house. The house costs $5 million. We're talking 30 years from now, $5 million. And with the way they spend money and inflation is exponential. So you live in this house for 10 years on a 30 year mortgage. Now it's $50 million. We're talking hyperinflation. Maybe I shouldn't go that crazy. Let's just talk about general wealth tax. Let's say you buy a $5 million house 10 years from now or 20 years from now because inflation is that bad. And then it goes up to $6 million.
Starting point is 00:37:34 And you're like, I don't know, man. I just bought a house. I got a mortgage. It's a 30-year mortgage. I got to pay my bills. I'm paying 15, like some ridiculous thousands of dollars every month. It is really difficult for me. Then the government comes to you and says, you just made a million dollars. No, I didn't. I just bought, I bought a house. I live in the house. I'm like, yeah, but it's worth a million dollars more. That's a 20% increase. You got to pay us 25% of the, so we're going to need that $250,000 from you in taxes. And you go, I don't have that. I have a loan on a house i have i have the liabilities i didn't make any money and they go well you did and so what do you do you can't sell your house you know why your house went up in value so did every single other house
Starting point is 00:38:15 maybe let me do this let me just say let's say in today's numbers five hundred thousand dollars for a house you buy it a couple years go by at the way they're spending money. And now it's 600,000. You owe $25,000 on the unrealized gain. You can't sell your house because every other house on the street went up the same price. So if you sold, you owe the government money on the return and you can't buy a comparable house because they're all the same $600,000. So it's not possible. The value of a commodity goes up because of inflation, that's considered a game. That's insane. So they can inflate the entire economy by 10% and then tax everyone on that 10%. Yep. Intentionally do it. If they get away with
Starting point is 00:38:55 this and they say it's only for $100 million and then this country experiences extreme hyper inflation, you could accidentally find yourself in a very high bracket. Now, don't get me wrong. The amount of inflation you'd need to reach $100 million net worth is psychotic. And if every average American was worth $100 million, their money's worth nothing. So I'm not saying we get there. I'm saying 10 years from now, they say we're going to make it $75 million. And no one bats an eye. Then they're going to say it's $50 million, then $30 million, then $20 million, then $10 million. And at that point, inflation is starting to meet that cap. And now you're getting more and more people wrote into this. All that matters is we cannot ever allow or support unrealized gains taxes because it's
Starting point is 00:39:36 fundamentally flawed. It doesn't make sense for people who own a house. Think about what a house was worth in the 60s. What were they? A few thousand dollars and now we're talking three generations later that house is three hundred thousand dollars so i mean seriously what was it like you have these ads from back in the 40s 50s it's like buy a house for ten thousand dollars today now those houses are 600 grand think about where you end up and how much a house is going to cost in 20 or 30 years. It really could be a $500,000 house becomes a $2 million house in 20 years. And then you're going to have people
Starting point is 00:40:09 who are business owners, and we're talking medium level businesses at this point, and it's over $100 million. And they're going to start taxing. It's putting a cap. This is a path over the long period of time towards a communist system that stops people from reaching a certain level of wealth and power. Has there ever been an unrealized gains tax in the U.S. before? I'm not aware of one. There may have been a long time ago. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Okay. My parents bought their house in 1980 for $40,000. I'm going to try and figure out what it's worth today. Are you serious? Yeah. $40,000 in 1980. $40,000. Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:42 How many square feet is it? I don't know. So this would be an annual tax that you have to pay on money that you don't really have. Yes. Yeah. That's crazy because people have been forced to sell commodities just to pay the tax on the commodity itself. That's what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:40:57 That's insane. But understand the thing about houses people don't get. If your house goes up in value, that means every other house went up in value. If you sold your house, you're going to lose money on fees. And if you want to buy another house, you've got to pay fees, which means this would cause extreme hyperinflation. The market would go insane. I have to imagine it might, it just might become oligarchy. Only the wealthy corporations with Federal Reserve funding are going to be able to buy properties. They say you owe $25,000 in your house, otherwise we're seizing it.
Starting point is 00:41:32 So you sell your house. Then you go, okay, well, now we've got $575,000, but every comparable house is $600,000, plus the fees for the real estate agent and the lawyers. So we can only really afford a $500,000 house, which is smaller than the house we were just in, so you buy that one a year later. Now that house is 600. And you go rinse and repeat. Your house is getting smaller and smaller and smaller every step of the way. And BlackRock's buying up houses and they're getting their printed money from the Federal
Starting point is 00:41:55 Reserve. And then charging rent to people. My parents' house, by the way, was $40,000 in 1980. It's $200,000 now. So that's a five times increase in 40 years but your house exponentially it goes up your home would never really appreciate in that scenario then right i mean because you're always owing money yep i mean you're just losing money yes yeah wealth tax makes literally no sense by the time you get old and sell your home you've spent so much money on these that you've appreciated nothing but tim we want to tax the wealthy they have unfair advantages and so the issue is they they won't generate money from this let's let's cut the middle class out of the question and just say right now they're saying 100 people worth 100 million dollars or more very few people have that net worth all they're really saying is we are
Starting point is 00:42:39 putting a cap on wealth that's all that's all it is if more than $100 million, we are taking it all from you, and you can only have $100 million is what they're saying. That's it. And then people will move their home base to Europe or the Bahamas or wherever the hell. Where was that other? As they do. Central America somewhere where
Starting point is 00:42:59 Russians were holding. Yeah, was it Panama where they were holding all that money? A lot of people were holding money. The Panama Papers went viral. People were hiding assets offshore. Panama. Yeah, that's how they do it. All that means is it would de-center the United States. That's the problem with them raising the corporate tax, too, is corporations will up and leave. Trump lowering the corporate tax got a bunch of corporations to come back.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I don't know the exact numbers, but it got corporations to reinstate their headquarters in the United States. So the issue with corporate tax, this is the craziest thing. If you've got a business, and in one month, let's say you're a restaurant, you do $100,000 in sales. You then have to pay all your staff and all your costs, and let's say it's, I don't know, $80,000. You get paid a salary because you're the manager or whatever and you might be making $200,000 a year or whatever. So the rest goes to you and you have almost no profit. So that little bit of profit goes into the bank and you're like, we need to build up a rainy day fund
Starting point is 00:43:57 in the event that sales dip for one month, we can cover our fixed costs. So let's say you get to the point where you've got a restaurant and you're operating at a 2% to 3% margin. So you're getting a get to the point where you've got a restaurant and you're operating at a 2% to 3% margin. So you're getting a couple grand per month that you're putting away. And you're like, we need to build up our coffers for rainy day so that when there's a downturn or recession, we can keep paying our employees. We don't got a business. We can cover our plumbing, our heat. January comes around, December 31st, and the IRS says, how much did you make? And you go,
Starting point is 00:44:24 well, I mean, we've got about 30,000 left over. It's profit, but we need that in case of emergencies. And the government says, we don't care. Give it to us. And they take a quarter of it. This is the craziest thing, running a business every year when you're like, our margins are not that good. We need this money in case of emergency.
Starting point is 00:44:42 And the government takes it from you. And I'm like, that's nuts. What happens if we lose a sponsor? What happens if we get, you know, suspended for a week or something and we don't have any money anymore? The IRS is taxing money and we need that money to operate. It's insane how corporate taxes work. Just January. There you go. And actually, for a lot of business, you pay quarterly. And then, you know, come April, it's like, here's the full bill so already the system is insane and very difficult to navigate
Starting point is 00:45:09 let alone doing this. Serge before the show mentioned digital serfdom or that like modern day serfdom to think that people will be shoved into like a permanent state of rental class and businesses middle class businesses will be shut down so the giant oligarchical corporations can control
Starting point is 00:45:25 the organization and the structure. I don't know if that's what they intentionally want, or if these people are just ignorantly guiding people towards inflation. We got a super chat from Gary Hardy that actually exemplifies the problem very well. He says, our taxes do go up every year based on inflation. It's called property tax. It's a tax on unrealized gains. 100% correct. That's basically already how it functions. And this is why. And this system already exists.
Starting point is 00:45:53 So take a look at rural land. Watch the show Yellowstone. Have you guys ever watched Yellowstone? They make a point to this very, very much so. So they own, what is it like 7 000 acres is that what it is some huge amount some 700 that's some it's i think it's more than seven i think it's like 700 000 of land or something and they got to pay taxes on it and they're like if the ranch doesn't make enough money to cover the cost of taxes then they're going to take the land from us so they
Starting point is 00:46:20 discuss parceling land to sell to cover the taxes. Extremely common. It's how people lose the land that their parents owned. So if you look at rural properties, you'll notice like there will be an area of some rural area and it'll be like a 50 acre property. And then you'll notice it's oddly shaped. And there's a row of developments along one side. And then you look at the property history. And what happens is 300 years ago, some guy walks a piece of land, puts a fence around it. Nobody lives there.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And he's like, I'm going to farm here. And he does. Nobody bats an eye. 100 years go by and they show up and they say, is this your land? Well, if you're taking this much land from the community and from the town, you got to pay taxes on it. Say, sure. 100 years goes by. And what happens is if your farm generates,
Starting point is 00:47:05 let's say, you know, I don't know, $10,000 a month or whatever, feeds your family and you get a little bit extra for knickknacks or whatever. Then the government comes and says, well, the property's massive and we could put factories on it. It's got to be worth at least a million dollars. So you owe us 30 grand and you go, I don't, I don't make enough to pay that. And they go find it or seizing the whole property. So they take an acre of their farm and they sell it to a developer who then puts a house on it. Then they use that money to pay the taxes next year. Same thing, sell an acre, pay the taxes over a long enough period of time, the property completely disappears and the family has lost everything. The Dutton ranch is, uh, 776,000 acres. And it's compared, there's a line in the show where John Dutton says that he owns a ranch
Starting point is 00:47:48 the size of Rhode Island. Yep. And a point of the show is when they say you got to pay taxes on it. This is how the people want to steal his land. They're like, this is the attack vector. He won't be able to pay the taxes on it. They'll have to start parceling land and it will destroy the ranch. This is what happens now.
Starting point is 00:48:05 This unrealized gains tax is a layer on top of that already. And Gary points out perfectly, this literally already happens. You buy a house, you like, let's say you work at a job and you get paid 70,000 a year and you got a $300,000 house. Then one day they come and they say your house is worth 400,000 now. So we're increasing your taxes, your property tax by 25%. You go, I don't make that much money. Like, I didn't get a 25% raise. How am I going to pay an increase in my taxes like this? So you go to your boss. I got to make more money or else.
Starting point is 00:48:34 You will own nothing and you will eat the bugs. That's what they're doing. If they're going to do an unrealized gains tax, you've got to account for inflation and you've got to reduce the value of the inflation from the cost. But you're acting like they're playing fair. I know. That would value of the inflation from the cost. But you're acting like they're playing fair. I know.
Starting point is 00:48:47 That would be like the righteous thing to do. But if it's actually a government ploy to take land from the citizenry and redistribute it or say, hey, we have 10% more people this year because of population expansion. We can't let you have 700 acres anymore. Split some off for these new people. I mean, I get the concept utilitarianly but it's it's pretty dirty the funny thing is people don't know what bourgeois means or bougie bourgeoisie do you guys know what it means it's like wealthy it was a french thing no it doesn't mean wealthy which is middle class yep it means middle class so when the communists talk about
Starting point is 00:49:20 the bourgeois they're not talking about the wealthy people. They're talking about middle class Americans, people working managerial jobs and trying to have a family. That's what they're talking about. They want to take that from you. You're the bad guy. You're the problem. Cernovich tweets, communists do not hate the wealthy as long as they decide who is at the top. Reid Hoffman, Bill Gates, Mark Cuban, they can do whatever they like as long as they play ball and share any lie from the regime. If you own a home, you are the rich that communists will destroy. And that's why in China, you can't own property. You can lease it. And it's got to be it's turned over after 99 years. I think it's 99 years. I think this is sort of the lie of the Harris-Waltz campaign. And as we can see, the Harris-Waltz campaign is effectively still the Biden-Harris campaign in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:50:08 They're going to say over and over again, well, we're for the working class, we're for the working class. And Trump, he doesn't understand and we're for you. But if they were ever asked specific questions about the policies that they back up, you would see that that's not the case. I mean, it's not enough to just pick the, you know, white guy from the Midwest and say, oh, we're for average Americans. You have to actually have that in policy. And I think the economy is one of these buzzword issues for this campaign in particular, where they're like, well, we don't want the wealthy to win and we, you know, whatever. They'll throw things around, but there's no explanation of what their plan is.
Starting point is 00:50:40 And I think that is largely because ultimately they are going to increase taxes in a way that will hurt the working class that they don't want to admit to. Let's let's jump to these tweets, talk a little about the DNC. So we have these tweets. Matt, this is I don't know who this person is. Beth Davidson, seemingly nobody, but she must be at the convention. She says, fam, Matt Walsh is at the Democrat convention posing as a delegate. Do not talk to him. Call him out. Tell security if you can. Please reshare to spread the word. He's got credentials.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Hashtag hate monger. He got in. Keith Olbermann says, we knew it was Matt Walsh because he covered up his five head. This dude says, yo, that's Matt Walsh in disguise on the convention floor. He's got a pass. What do they think is going to happen if there's a Republican in their midst? Charlie Kirk is walking around. He's chilling, panicking, listening to people,
Starting point is 00:51:32 having a decent conversation. Here's the crazy thing about this. Charlie Kirk is there. He's talking to people. A lot of people are yelling at him, which is nuts. But how come this didn't happen at the RNC? Right. Not only do we have the riots outside
Starting point is 00:51:45 and it's low tier stuff, but they really, they did tear down the barricades and breach the perimeter. So I'm calling that a riot. And protests and clashes, 13 arrests. At the RNC, you had none of this. You had a light protest. Nothing really happened.
Starting point is 00:51:57 There may have been arrests. I don't know. Nothing was really eventful and no one really cared about it. I walked past it and nothing seemed, I don't know, nobody said anything to me. At the RNC, there were no, I didn't see any crazy Democrats running around. Nobody was screaming at anybody. Cenk Uygur in 2016, he got, no, no, no, Jimmy Dore spat on Alex Jones. There was that
Starting point is 00:52:16 kind of stuff. I didn't see anything at the RNC. Liberals didn't show up to question Republicans. Nothing that I saw. I think it's because the sect of people that are supporting the Democratic Party feel as though they've been fortified, that their system is fortified and ready to win. They don't. Yeah, they're not in to try and mess with the other. They don't feel like they need to. They feel like they've got it in the bag. Maybe, maybe. I think it's that they don't want to hear what's going on at the RNC. They want to hear it through the lens of the media and they don't want to be in the presence of hate or whatever. Whereas, you know, conservatives actually find it.
Starting point is 00:52:51 They've seen a lot of success by going inside, you know, events that are not typically open to them. I'm thinking of, you know, the family friendly, quote unquote, drag performances. And you'll get these on the ground reporters. It's like, is this what you're describing as family friendly? The more they see. Yeah, the I think it's this is why I don't call it the left and the right at all. I don't feel like it's it's even I feel like I'm interested in knowing what is really happening. So I want to investigate the empire and the imperial strategy. And that leads me towards investigate getting the Democratic Party and what the hell is going on with this
Starting point is 00:53:22 American arm of the, you know, the Western empire. there's a video you can see matt walsh right here with his little red hat walking around he posts some of the most uh what would you call scathing stuff on twitter where i'm like there he is where i'm like i don't like he'll post stuff on twitter i'm like i don't mad i don't want to read i don't want to look at it but he constantly makes me love the man i love wait wait is the camera panning to try and get matt walsh again? No, I think they're trying to get him out of the shot. He gets the blame for a lot of things he does do. He's lost his bearings, as we can see. He's so subtle.
Starting point is 00:53:51 It's funny because he's there officially, I bet. I bet Daily Wire applied for credentials. They said yes, same as Charlie Kirk. He showed up dressed like that and now they're all losing their minds. And you have to hand it to Matt Walsh. This is obviously promotional for his new movie. This is hilarious marketing,
Starting point is 00:54:08 right? Like he's not even there necessarily to like change any hearts of minds. He's there to sort of be himself and they're freaking out about it. Like Borat. Well, it is because I mean, it does look like a costume to like, if I saw that person, I'd be like that person doesn't look right to me.
Starting point is 00:54:24 It's the red hat. Well, his hat is like elevated over his wig, you know? It's not really like fitting correctly. Okay, so now I definitely wish I was there after seeing this. I'm like, okay, that would have been fun. But I don't want to be anywhere near outside and getting to and from seems crazy. So no, no DNC for us. Probably would have been really cool now in retrospect.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Charlie Kirk's a master man and i think his history will look back on him fondly for his reaching across the aisle and his consistent olive branches that he's going to offer maybe it doesn't turn out so bad but i'm still worried about the riots there's like democrats getting hotels and fake names the amount of security stuff we had to do we would have had to have done is just i just didn't find it to be worth it to go to the dnc in chicago of all places, dude, you get shot in Chicago and they say just another weekend. What did you guys think of the RNC? I didn't know what was it. Oh, I thought it was interesting.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I mean, the hard thing about doing IRL is that we're working when a lot of the speeches are going on. But I think there was a lot of really interesting energy. One of the critiques that, or one of the analysis that I was listening to of the DNC today was they had um steve kerr i think is his name he's a coach coach the golden state yeah and he was just at the olympics with the team usa and they had him up and they're they're saying i was listening to this new york times analysis and they were like yeah because democrats feel like the republicans
Starting point is 00:55:39 have really taken control of red white and blue And they're trying to offer their own version of patriotism, which means that really the RNC set the tone. And in so many ways, the DNC is responding to them. I mean, you know, Trump tweeted that thing where he's like, this is how many times they mentioned my name last night. It really is. Everybody is, you know, Trump is really in charge of this election in a way that I don't think Harris is. She is a response to the Trump campaign always. She is never leading any policy here. Let me say this really quick. I saw this one video of Kamala where a reporter challenged her and she was like,
Starting point is 00:56:13 do you want Trump to win? She got really mad. Yeah, I saw that. You saw that? That was crazy. And it was the only time I've seen her get upset so far. I haven't watched a lot of it, but it was very obvious that she doesn't want to be challenged.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Don't challenge the royalty right now. We just need to shove it in. Well, like what is that saying? Do you want this terrible person to win? That means you're a bad person. That's how she's shutting people down. That's not effective. Sorry, you're going to say something. No, it's okay. I was just going to say, I kind of feel the opposite of the way that you feel in terms of them controlling like the tone and whatnot. Because if you remember, the RNC happened so shortly after Trump got shot. In fact, I think it was the first time we saw him after he got shot. And the Democrats now, I think, in retrospect, were it was tactical. I mean, of course, nothing they do is sincere. But at the time, they were kind of playing this game, like, let's all let's all like, you know, take the
Starting point is 00:56:59 volume down a little bit. Like, let's let's let's turn things down turn down the heat and then trump came out and he had i don't really feel like we i don't feel like we strategized well about what our message was going to be after trump got assassinated i think there were a lot of opportunities there that were absolutely missed and he came out and he had this kind of like docile very sort of like soft gentle tone and the democrats were keeping that too. But then it's like, as soon as we got through that, they started pouncing again. And now they're right back to the same rhetoric. I mean, from the speeches that I saw
Starting point is 00:57:32 that happened last night at CART clips, I mean, they're back to saying, you know, what a dangerous threat he is to America and that he must be neutralized. He must be. So, I mean, we're right back to, and I feel like they are controlling the tone. And I feel like we missed our opportunity. I think that they do have a strong they have pivoted really well as soon as they dropped Biden and they were like, we're rolling out this prosecutor and he's a felon.
Starting point is 00:57:55 They did go back on the attack. I actually am not sure all Americans appreciate that. I think a lot of people are still thinking about the assassination attempt and think that there's sort of a gravity there. But, you know, it is fascinating to me that there was a USA chant there. And that's actually to me like Republicans are the patriotic party right now. I don't think that was always true. I think there was a time when, you know, Democrats and Republicans had a lot more in common. But, you know, in our modern day era, it's just not the same thing. Right. And I think that all of this like this whole moment in time for them is not possible without Trump. Whereas and I got you mean like Trump did come out a little bit softer.
Starting point is 00:58:35 He seemed like he was a little more emotional, a little more reflective. But he had said, you know, I'm not going to mention Biden during the speech. Like he said his name like one time. And a lot of people followed suit. I do think that if Trump weren't in this election for whatever reason, not because of the assassination, because, you know, he wasn't eligible to run or something like that. I don't know what the Democrats would do without him. I don't think that they have a strategy other than panic about Trump. And it's interesting to see every time the Republicans offer up a policy, like the Trump-Vance campaign, we still don't get anything from Harris unless it's sort of like a, I'm also not going to
Starting point is 00:59:11 tax tips. Copy, yeah. You say $5,000, J.D. Vance, for parents with young children? Well, I say $6,000. It is very much following the Trump-Vance campaign. 100%. And to your point about them chanting usa and it being kind of bizarre and disingenuous and stuff i mean i i've actually questioned recently if they're if
Starting point is 00:59:30 this is like a giant psyop that they're really appropriating our culture i don't know if you're noticing this like overnight they are like overnight they're she's doing trump rallies overnight they're chanting usa they're chanting lock him up. No tax on tips. Yeah. His policies. And I'm like, are they trying to drive us insane? Like out of one side of the mouth. Well, they can see what's working. And they're like, we're going to do that now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:53 But either way, it's all theater. I mean, it's completely fake. It's smart. They know that their cult will vote for them no matter what. And so steal the policies of the right and try and get as many moderates as possible. I'm sorry. No, I agree with you. I think that there is a posturing for moderates, but it's interesting that they're not offering anything new.
Starting point is 01:00:10 They're copying Trump. And again, that just to me says that he lives rent free in everybody's brains and he will do until he can't run for president anymore. I'm going to stress it. They are evil people. You want an example? Joe Biden leading with the very fine people hoax. After seven years, We know it's not true. Listen to the full C-SPAN interview Trump gave. And it was comprehensive, intelligent and
Starting point is 01:00:31 measured. Trump's response could not have been more perfect. He said there were bad people in the masks. They were neonatists. They were bad people. And there were some people who got a permit. They wanted to protest that they were angry. The statue was coming down. And that's fine. They're allowed to have the First Amendment. But there were bad people on both sides. There were some good people on both sides. He actually didn't just say one simple sentence. He actually said, I saw the same videos. We know what happened. Bad actors are ruining this stuff. And he said, if you were if you would report this accurately, people would know. And what did they do? They lied. Trump asked them to report accurately and they accurately and they lied. And Biden to this day spits on the face of every single one of these
Starting point is 01:01:11 voters and they bask in it. Can you tell me really fast what that is, that hoax? Because I have not looked into it. In Charlottesville, there was a statue being pulled down by protesters. They were counter protesters saying, do not pull down the statue. They were going to rename a park. It was Robert E. Lee Park or something like this in the statue. The far left wanted to tear it down. There were people on the right who didn't want it. Then you had Antifa show up and then you had white nationalists show up. There was a massive clash. People started fighting. Fighting broke out and it resulted in a guy in a car driving into a crowd of people, killing a woman. And this is a Charlottesville moment. Donald Trump gave a press conference right afterwards and said,
Starting point is 01:01:49 you had a lot of bad people there. They were bad people on both sides. You had the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists. You had the left with the wearing all black with baseball bats. Did you see them? And he said, but you also had some very fine people on both sides, on both sides, some who were protesting a statue coming down. And they had a permit, by the way, and they have a First Amendment right to peacefully, the right way, protest this. And then someone then says, asks him a question. He says, no, I am not talking. He says, he says, they were very fine. Someone goes, you're saying there's very fine people? Literally asks him in the neo-Nazi, he goes, no, I'm saying there were people there with a permit to protest. I am not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists.
Starting point is 01:02:28 They should be condemned totally. Oh, man. And then they kept running that he called the neo-Nazis very fine people. Or the animals quote. He called immigrants animals. He literally was talking about drug dealing, child trafficking murderers. And he says, these people killing children, they're not people, they're animals. And they cut him going, they're not people, they're animals. That they went, and they cut him going, they're not people, they're animals.
Starting point is 01:02:46 That's the only thing. MS-13, he was talking about MS-13. And also, we're all animals. Like, come on, get over it, guys. Yeah, but you get the point. He was saying that the cartels who traffic children are animals who kill people and murder them. It's really fascinating to be paying attention, to see it happening in real time, like the manipulation. Like, Goebbels, the Nazi propagandist, would be like, you just tell them a lie enough times and they'll believe it. paying attention to see to see it happening in real time like the manipulation like the gerbils
Starting point is 01:03:05 the nazi propagandists would be like you just tell them a lie over enough times oh dude believe it would be sitting here clapping for the democrats being like wow look how how long they've maintained this and here's an important thing to understand they say that every seven years every cell in your body has been replaced right like the ship of these, you're a new person. Democrats live in a world now where it has been, man, nine years of lies about Donald Trump. Every fiber of their being at this point is composed of fake information. Their entire worldview crafted off of high level propagandic propagandistic manipulation of the Democratic Party. It's the only thing they know. Assisted by the media. Very few mainstream media outlets
Starting point is 01:03:47 covered the fact that during Biden's speech, there was a banner drop down that said stop funding Israel or something like that. It's a pro-Palestine or at least anti-Israel sentiment. And very few mainstream media outlets that I have seen talked about the fact that there's a Native Americans rights group that has allied themselves with the pro-Palestinian
Starting point is 01:04:05 people saying, you know, this land, this this the DNC is operating on stolen land and therefore we also we protest this and we stand with people in Palestine who are having, you know, their land stolen or, you know, whatever the sentiment is. It's fascinating to me that like they completely block out any discord within their own party, meaning that they don't want the average leans left, not super political voter to know, hey, actually, we have tons of chaos and people within your own party think we might be the ethical role. This is the challenge right now with Trump sycophants and the unwillingness or the inability of Trump's campaign to call up the surrogates and tell them to shut the living F up when they
Starting point is 01:04:46 attack moderates. Because I just watched a clip, as I mentioned earlier, from Joe Rogan's show, where he's like, it's all tribalism. It's my team. It's your team. It isn't. But Joe doesn't live in the same political world entrenched like we do. That's why he says, I don't know. Talk to Dave Smith. I'm not a political guy. Joe certainly knows more than most people when he calls out the weird absurdities of the media. But when Trump's sycophants attack Joe, he just immediately backs away and says, guys, you're all nuts. The reality is Trump's imperfect. Of course he is. The Republicans suck. Of course they do. But we really are looking at a party that has been lying, cheating and stealing for who knows how long, but it's been particularly
Starting point is 01:05:25 bad in the past decade. And we are in desperate need of some accountability and a functioning government to probably criminally charge those who have broken the law. You can't really go after the media for lying. You're allowed to. It's the First Amendment. But we need accountability. We need good governance. We need to fire those in the entrenched bureaucracy and so when trump's sycophants attack moderates you lose support and this is the most frustrating thing right now and the lying and the cheating the lie was before the democratic party like in 2011 it was the republican party with the weapons of mass destruction in iraq like the the the imperialists that wanted to conquer and trump isn isn't that party, and they hate him.
Starting point is 01:06:07 He's an outsider. And that's why when Trump got elected, you had the Republican Party with, what's his face? Paul Ryan. And I think it was in the time, Boehner. They did not like Donald Trump. They actually worked with Democrats on the Russia gate hoax when Trump got in in 2017.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And then in 2018, we saw a little bit of a change, kind of Democrats. I think in 2018, Democrats got came back in into Congress. So the Republicans had Congress for that first year of Trump's term. They did nothing. And look where we are now. So I don't I don't care if the Republican Party, the Republican Party in 2000s, I thought was trash. Barack Obama turned out to be trash. The Democrats are trash. And then Trump and Bernie came in. Bernie lost. Trump represented populism. And what people, people don't want war. They don't want these garbage trade agreements. Trump came in, civil war in the Republican party, still sort of going on. And I'll take it. My point with Joe is I should be able to have a conversation with someone like Joe and have him just be like, dude, I get it, man. You know,
Starting point is 01:07:05 there's there's there's no one else to vote for. Instead, Trump's cult that and I'm not saying everyone supports Trump, I'm saying these diehard lunatics push even him away. I get it. I totally get it. And I think the that sect of his base, that it's the constant loyalty tests and purity tests and that if you dare to ask any questions or or express anything that you might you know have a question about you're dissatisfied with and then suddenly everybody's turning on you you're not like a real trump sport this happened to me um it's wokeness it's the same thing it's totally this it's what cancel culture garbage it's what pushed me away from the democratic party when i'm not allowed to ask questions and think for myself.
Starting point is 01:07:46 And the Vakes campaign, when he was still running, did a really great thing. They started reaching out to influencers, which I wish Trump's campaign would do more of. But they had reached out to me and said, you want to spend the day with the Vake on the bus, get to know him better, ask him questions, interview him. I was like, of course, of course I'm going to say yes. And I knew at that time I was planning to support Trump, but I wanted, course i'm going to say yes to opportunity to get to know the guy spent the day with the vague had a great day inter uh interviewed him on camera put it out there and uh people started getting really angry at me because i spent the day with the vague and i'm like yeah but i had a great time i really and then very shortly after that it uh was the iowa
Starting point is 01:08:22 it was right before the iowa caucus Vivek did better than people expected. And Trump basically, you know, in typical Trump fashion, put out a comment like, Vivek's not really one of us. He's not MAGA. I had all of these people attacking me because I had spent the day with Vivek before Trump said that. And, like, people unfollowing me and stuff. And then Vivek dropped out. And then, like, two days later, Trump was like, just kidding. Vivek's awesome. And then, but it's, that drove me nuts.
Starting point is 01:08:50 I was like, this feels exactly like why I left the left. It's, it's, it's cancel culture. It is the pile on fallen line or else. And I think it's important that Trump's most ardent base recognize they win by alliances with moderates. And if you want to play these games where you insult the moderates, you're going to lose. Because there's a lot of people vote emotionally. That's what the Democrats have proven. And we're trying to convince as many middle-of-the-road people that, man, this is life or death. I mean, look, I got to ask, even if Trump wins, there's no guarantee that we're going to actually get a functional vote count or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Who knows what's going to happen January 6th, 2025, because Kamala is going to be counting the the she's going to be counting the electors. And Congress has Jamie Raskin's already said they're going to block Trump if he does win. Biden claims he's going to block he's going to try and take power even if he loses. And so my point ultimately is this. I shouldn't be listening to Joe Rogan, who correctly calls out Fauci, who correctly calls out the Democrat installing Kamala, who then says, yeah, but they're all just my team, this team, that team, whatever, man. It's because they attack him. He's a regular guy. He's not focused on politics. He's a very, very smart guy, as much as he likes to say, like, I'm just some dumb podcaster. The dude's a genius. But this is not his world. His world is comedy. So when he wakes up one day and he's getting Trump tweeting at him that they're going to boo him at UFC, he's like,
Starting point is 01:10:10 these people are nuts. And it's he's not wrong, but Trump still has to win. And that's the unfortunate thing. It should be easy for me to go to someone who's like, man, I don't like Trump's people. And I'm like, I know, but you didn't get a vote for him because like because you're looking at the Democrats and, you know, and it be a simple, like, I get it. I get it. The Mises caucus people, uh, who was it? Jeremy Kaufman. Is that his name? I'm getting his name right. Yeah. Jeremy Kaufman. He held up the sign saying MAGA equals socialism at the libertarian party. He doesn't want to vote for Donald Trump. And then once Chase Oliver gets nominated, he says, I guess I'm voting for Donald Trump because I'm not going to vote for a race communist or whatever. And I'm like, see, that's reality. It sucks. But we really
Starting point is 01:10:49 are. No, dude, most elections, I'd have no problem being a libertarian. I don't care. Two party, whatever. But now it really is hyper polarized to an extreme degree. The Republican Party, you vote for your candidate. Then there's a brutal friends become enemies. And then afterwards, enemies are still friends are not enemies again the friendships were lost in that primary battle with DeSantis and Trump but a vote was had and a lot of DeSantis supporters came around and said okay fine I'll vote for Trump but I'm mad at you guys and I hate this and I'm like well that's that's how it goes the Democrats installed Kamala and said join her or else and they're cheering for a woman who has no campaign
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Starting point is 01:11:57 She's supporting the tax thing from Joe Biden. And she said no taxes on tips, which is contradictory, I guess. But there's no campaign policies on her website. They don't know what they're cheering for. You had Taylor Hansen at the convention asking what they're supporting. They have no answer, none whatsoever. They're like, she's just a good leader. And, you know, Trump's going to take our freedoms.
Starting point is 01:12:17 They have no idea what they're supporting. So it's you may not like the guy, but this is not your typical Obama versus McCain day or whatever, where McCain's like, no, my opponent's a good man. We just disagree on a few issues. It's literally an installed candidate and voting for a system in which they do not actually have real representation of the American people and voting for a system that does. It's the first time in my life I've ever felt like I'm actually voting to resist imperial authoritarianism.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Like, it's more clear than ever that the liberal economic order is like a British centric American five eyes empire. That is, they stopped calling themselves the British empire in 1997. They rebranded as the, the United kingdom now or whatever. King of Kings. He is now Xerxes King.
Starting point is 01:13:00 He's like the emperor still Charles. And it's like, we got to shake it loose the federal reserve was like a bank a strategy for the bankers to to take control uh the banker plot the business plot in 1933 i think it was they wanted to overthrow the government fascist install fascist dictatorship in the u.s failed uh smedley butler wouldn't go for it but like we got to shake loose and i think it's civil disobedience is the way loose like i don't think we can actively aggressively knock it loose and the british are our great allies to be i mean you know like human wise we're very good we're very friendly with the british i like every english
Starting point is 01:13:33 guy i know pretty much i get along with for the most part looks like sorry sorry like riots are starting to break out right now what's going on uh police are fighting with protesters this is like 10 minutes ago unsurprising sorry sorry yeah you know who knows if it's if it's a controlled opposition what's going on but i'm sure it'll develop as it goes on serious protesters who have issues with democrat they just happen to be um from the left the left doesn't make sure we don't talk about the fact that it's left-wing people protesting this is it this is the imperial authoritarian they're they're trying to conquer the middle east and people on both sides of the aisle don't a lot of people don't want that and they they want to stop
Starting point is 01:14:08 too and right so so what happens george george w bush and brock obama represent very little difference to me they obama carried out the same policies destabilizing the middle east under george w bush you get ir and Afghanistan. Under Barack Obama, you got what? You got Libya. You got Syria. You got more Afghanistan. I mean, it exacerbated quite a bit. You have the rise of ISIS. Donald Trump comes in. Done. No new wars, troop withdrawals, peace agreements. Trump was not supposed to win. And we can all plainly see it. Decades of military expansion. I mean, Desert Storm, you go back decades and the liberal economic order, H.W. Bush, all these people knew exactly what they wanted and exactly
Starting point is 01:14:51 what they were doing. And we got it. And then Trump comes in, he goes, no, we're shutting that down. And they lost their minds. They said he's a traitor. He's a Russian spy. He's here to destroy America. Vote for Kamala Harris like a vote for Joe Biden is to restore American imperial expansion and a vote for Donald Trump is to rescind it. Donald Trump's not perfect on the issue. Dave Smith is. Dave Smith is the guy who, if he actually ran, does everything we'd hope for in terms of foreign policy. Donald Trump is the guy who gets us marginally better off than we were before. Abraham Accords, I thought were good. Dave disagrees, but I think they were good. He got other peace agreements. He tried to bring peace to the Korean Peninsula. He did a great job in these areas. And they said he was writing love letters to dictators. Yeah, it's called trying to get peace, trying to get peace. You say, I don't know or care about what North Korea is doing. We're backing off because we don't want to be at war with you anymore. We want war to stop and we want economic relations to normalize. And North Korea says, OK, let's figure out what we have to do to make that happen. And they go, no, no, because the military industrial complex wants conquests. And Trump
Starting point is 01:15:48 didn't. Trump wanted to shore up America's defenses, get better trade agreements, help the working people in this country. And they come out and they say he only cared about himself. It's just laughably absurd, dude. Anyone would have a brain can realize that the only benefit Trump got from any of this was ego. And if you want to argue Trump's got an ego, I would agree with you. His name is on a bunch of buildings around the world. But he lost billions. If he really just wanted to make himself better off, he'd be swimming. He'd be on a yacht with his big old belly with a beer resting on top of it in the Mediterranean eating grapes.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Instead, he's like, I'm going to go to war with the deep state because I like America. He likes the admiration he gets. That's obvious. He likes being a celebrity. That's obvious. But the idea that he doesn't actually care about what he's doing is stupid. And I also heard someone say doing doing the right thing for the wrong reasons is wrong. And I'm just like, maybe, but you should still do it.
Starting point is 01:16:41 You know, if there was a guy who's like a burning building, I hear children screaming. If I save those kids, people are going to make me a hero. I'm going to get on the news. I'm going to get on the news. Yeah. And then he rescues two children from a burning building. I'm going to be like, why did you do it, sir? And he goes, because I knew if I save those kids, I'd be famous. I'd be like, yes, absolutely. Thank you for being motivated to risk your life for whatever that reason may be. We can disagree with your motivations, but you did save two kids. And that would actually be a really interesting story. So if Donald Trump really is in it for those reasons, but he's doing good and he hopes that in 20 years, everyone claps and builds golden statues of him. Great.
Starting point is 01:17:15 I'll take it. I may be crazy, but I actually find him to be more altruistic than that. I don't think it's just, I agree with you. He's got an ego. I think he enjoys attention and fame. I don't think it's just I agree with you. He's got an ego. I think he enjoys attention and fame. I don't think that's why he's I think he really rump on big buildings everywhere. I know. But I think that he could. I think he could feed his ego and his need for fame in a million. He could do another reality show. He could.
Starting point is 01:17:37 You know, he doesn't need to do this. You're right. And I will point out Trump. Look, I think you can go back to when Trump was a kid. He wasn't getting the attention he as a child, perhaps maybe psychoanalyzing an 80 year old man. I'm only 30. I have no idea. But I can tell you this.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Trump loves it when people like him. That's a good thing. Trump lines up his employees and hands them hundred dollar bills. And they're like, we love this guy. He like gives us bonuses. And he's like, I'm glad you do. I want you to be happy and I want you to like me. What's wrong with that? Trump wants to be liked. He wants everyone. He wants to feel like people know he is. If he was if he was a genocidal maniac who was like, I'm going to build a gigantic,
Starting point is 01:18:16 you know, 200 foot golden statue of myself and enslave people. I bet that's a that's a that's a bad person. But if Trump is like, I know how to make everybody love me. I'm going to improve the economy, secure our borders, bring jobs back. Evil, evil man. Yep. No, I think it's true. Trump likes to be like, I actually feel like for a lot of politicians, you have to want the spotlight. Like, it would be very difficult to have this type of career if you weren't interested in that at all. And I think it's true.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Like, Trump was very generous with the staff. He gives you their stories about him giving out money and stuff. But I think if you look at his relationship with his grandchildren, right, like he actually has fostered very positive relationships from what I can see. I mean, his granddaughter spoke at the convention and seemed positive. She's super into golf. She just signed with the University of Miami, right? Like there are things about him that, you know, are obvious that he wants to be like. On the other hand, I think he can authentically win people over. And I'm not sure that's true for everyone else who's in politics.
Starting point is 01:19:10 I don't know why people think it's a bad thing that you say Trump has an ego and that he wants people to like him. You know, there are people that want to have this vision of him that he's just a noble soul and a saint. I'm like, there's nothing wrong with wanting to be liked. Donald Trump putting his name and brand everywhere and wanting recognition for his work is not bad or wrong in any way. And he's going about getting that attention by trying to help people. I don't think it's pure altruism where he's like, I will sacrifice everything for the fate of humanity. He's saying it feels good to be liked and recognized for doing good things like. He's doing good things. And I think a part of his motivation is that he wants people to know he, he, he wants people to know who he is. I S I think that's totally, completely fine.
Starting point is 01:19:52 It's a fine motivation to have. You want to be recognized for your hard work. So Trump is like, I know how to get recognition. I'll help as many people as I can. I'll sacrifice work really, really hard. And then they'll recognize me. And I'm like, yes, they absolutely will. Sorry. I just, I think that if, if it's, you know, your ego and your need for attention, there comes a point where when they're trying to put you in prison for the rest of your life or shooting you in the head or whatever, that you might be like, you know what? I don't need attention this much or whatever. I mean, the fact that he continues to go forward, despite all these things, I just have to believe that he really wants to help people.
Starting point is 01:20:26 I agree that he wants to help people, but I think a part of his motivation is that he wants people to like him. I think he's lawful neutral and that his alignment's been changing. It could have gone evil, but it's been changing towards good the last four years or five years.
Starting point is 01:20:40 He's becoming more altruistic. He's having a spiritual awakening. You can see it in his face and in his voice. But after the assassination attempt, like he's a different human being. He said he did, you know. And but to your point, I don't think it's you know, when when he nearly gets shot and killed, I wouldn't say it's his altruism that keeps him going. I would say it's his strength. Donald Trump is a man who appreciates being
Starting point is 01:21:06 recognized for his hard work, for his capabilities. I think that that's that's a strong piece of what motivates him, like putting his name as his brand shows he wants people to know he's the one who's doing this. I think he wants to go about doing it by by helping people. That's why even before he ran for president, he's famous for walking up to his employees and handing out $100 bills to them. He's like, I want you to know and respect the work that I do, the hard work that I do, and I want you to be better off for it. Here's $100. It is a component of it. And when they nearly kill him and they attack him, it's the strength that got him to that point that makes him stand up and say, now I'm doubling down. So I don't have this view in my
Starting point is 01:21:46 mind of Donald Trump as being like, I will sacrifice all that I have for the betterment of mankind. No, he's like, I know what I'm doing. I know what's going to work. I know what can help people. I know how to run companies. People need to recognize this for more than just ego. It's also about knowing when a leader is good and recognizing that person should be in charge. And then when they come after him, now it's, you want to screw with me? You better not miss. Something I've noticed about ego is like, sometimes it's the most egotistical thing you can do is to not use your body for its greatest purpose,
Starting point is 01:22:17 is to hide and let yourself just be safely unknown. That's ego taking over and keeping your body safe. I agree. To make yourself famous is a big sacrifice to be known by so many people because you're going to be hated by a lot of them. That's a huge sacrifice. I was having a conversation earlier with Richie about this skateboarder and the varying degrees of fame that exist. There's global notoriety like Donald Trump. The man cannot go out for breakfast without a security detail and someone watching the chef. And that's torturous. I don't I people need to understand. Like, there's a lot of people who seem to think like, oh, it must be so great
Starting point is 01:22:57 to live this way. There's a reason why Donald Trump eats McDonald's. Do you guys know what it is? Yeah. Does he still? Yes. He cut it out. You know why? No. Because it's prepackaged. Exactly. Because they can walk into a fast food restaurant and there's a burger sitting that was made before and he goes, that one. Because if he goes in and he says, I want a Big Mac, someone's going to spit in it. Someone's going to screw with him just to be the one who got Trump. Whether they like him or don't like him.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Because people are nuts. So people make fun of him and say, ah, he's eating McDonald's again. Yeah, because if he tells someone to go pick up McDonald's, nobody screws with it. They have standards and regulations, and he sends a guy in, a guy in says, I need five Big Mac meals. Then he walks in, boom, fast food. Trump goes to a restaurant, and he does, he does, but he's got to have security with him. That is, like, I don't think people truly understand. I was at VidCon, and I saw this YouTuber guy, and he had a bodyguard holding him the whole time everywhere he went. A guy who was like six, five.
Starting point is 01:23:49 And I was like, why would you want to live that way just for being a YouTuber? Right. I couldn't imagine what Donald Trump goes through. They nearly killed the guy because the good you can do when you're famous sometimes outweighs the sacrifice you have to make. I got it. We got at least get this one story in before we go to Super Chats. From the Post Millennial. Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear wishes rape upon J.D. Vance's family. It's not an exaggeration. And apparently when he was asked to clarify, he doubled down.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Quote, after speaking on the DNC main stage last night, Harris campaign surrogate Governor Andy Beshear went on national television this morning and explicitly called for a member of Senator Vance's's family to be raped the trump vance campaign said we'll play it the quote is make him go through this that's that that's what beshear said about what what some people have had to go through because of these laws i mean mean, J.D. Vance calls pregnancy resulting from rape inconvenient. Like inconvenience is traffic. I mean, it is make him go through this. I mean, think about when asked about it again. He apparently said something the effect of, oh, it's a deflection or whatever. J.D. Vance
Starting point is 01:24:58 responds. What the hell is this? Why is Andy Beshear wishing that a member of my family would get raped? I mean, yeah, that's kind of wild. Make his family go through a rape pregnancy. Dude, you know, it's something I don't do is wish that people have to suffer trauma to realize what's really valuable in life, like the horror of war. So you can realize how important and how great it is to have quiet and peace and health. I just won't let myself go to that point where I actually wish them to have to feel the suffering. I can assure you this. If a member of J.D. Vance's family was raped, they would not abort the kid. We have had very many pro-life people through these doors and sitting in these chairs
Starting point is 01:25:41 who would outright say, absolutely not, no abortion, no exceptions. The idea that Andy Beshear thinks that J.D. Vance's family member getting raped and have would result in them considering aborting their child means he fundamentally does not understand. So it's just shocking that he would say something like this. I mean, it's that expression. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. Right. This apparently does not apply here. And I think that almost talks. I mentioned this the other day, but I think in some ways the abortion issue is is a larger trial someone should go through, is very strange. And, you know, Andrew Scheer was on the shortlist for a potential VP candidate for Harris. And I find it fascinating that he is this Democratic governor from what is effectively a red state, Kentucky. And he is so flippant about this issue.
Starting point is 01:26:43 It's just it's just something that I feel like he is putting his own career on the line. And I assume he he thinks it's worth it that that the Wallace Harris campaign will provide him a future. So he should just say whatever he can or else he didn't think of it, think it through, which is pretty thoughtless. I think he thought it through. I think what he said actually sounds fairly common in Democrat circles. When he was like, make him go through this. it sounds very typical of how Democrats perceive these issues. They genuinely think that if someone raped a member of Vance's family, they'd immediately go, well, I guess it's abortion. They say these things. They say the left believes that these pro-life individuals, first of all, they run the lie where they show up to these
Starting point is 01:27:25 pro-life events and they go, how many kids have you adopted? And there's a bunch of people being like, none. And they're like, aha, that proves it. And then they ignore like, I don't know, Amy Coney Barrett's family. And I think she's adopted like two. And many pro-lifers are substantially more likely to adopt. It's much more common. They act like they're the ones adopting. They live in this world where they genuinely believe everyone thinks exactly like they do. And the only reason they're pro-life is because they're lying. That's it. They're lying and they hate women. But if they ever had a situation, then they would not be pro-life anymore. Wrong. Absolutely not. I guarantee you, J.D. Vance's family would be like, well, we'll care for the child.
Starting point is 01:28:02 What do you think? What do you think Andy Beshear was thinking? I think that they have to bring everything back to abortion. I think because they have no actual policies to run on, as we pointed out before, this abortion, J6, that's it. I mean, that's the policy. No, seriously, though, I think that they know that if uh to win this election they're gonna have to inflame the sensibilities of a lot of women and convince a lot of women that their rights are going to be in danger if they would consider voting for donald trump or jd vance and i think any opportunity to
Starting point is 01:28:37 remind women what's at stake and to make it seem by the way as if it's like a common occurrence these rape pregnancies which which are extraordinarily rare. I think that's why he did it. Yeah, I think it is interesting that this is the issue Harris in particular thinks she's going to win on. I mean, she was touring the country on her, you know, pro-abortion tour beforehand. The first time she met Walls was at a Planned Parenthood, which she toured as, you know, it was unprecedented having a vice president tour an abortion clinic. But I have to wonder if the issue is, you know, I saw some poll that said, you know, it's not considered a major issue by most Americans. So they can bring up
Starting point is 01:29:19 abortion constantly, right? They can do it in these kind of graphic ways and they can talk, they can have their, you know, abortion and vasectomy bus outside the dnc but at the end of the day even women who think it is a major issue for them are still impacted by the economy they're still impacted by crime i don't know that you can use abortion enough to distract from the realities that you have a weak campaign on those issues how many abortions are they getting? It's kind of crazy. I'm like, is it really that common? I mean that seriously. Do they have abortions that often?
Starting point is 01:29:50 Well, this could be, to your point, the most important thing in your life when you can't afford gas and groceries and whatever, but you're like, yeah, but I need to be able to abort whenever I want to. I listened to this interview a couple months ago with women who were, I think it was, they were in Texas and they had various,
Starting point is 01:30:04 Texas has a restriction on abortion and they were saying, you know, and I had to undergo this or I wanted to leave state. And there's one woman who was like, you know, and I couldn't afford to leave the state to undergo an abortion. And I like wanted to pull my hair and it's like, you know, first off, the fact that like your only default option is abortion is sad. But on top of that, like you're you're listing an economic complaint here that you don't have the money to travel. Why don't you have any money? Because of the Biden economy. Right. Not that I want you to go out of state to get an abortion. That's that's almost separate to me.
Starting point is 01:30:35 But, you know, even these women who are presenting these arguments as to why these these are bad issues touch on the economy as they. Well, it's too expensive to have a kid right now. Oh, so you wouldn't abort your kid if it was less it was more affordable you could have children the economy wasn't so bad like they all can't pass they all have to pass by this issue to make any sort of complaint uh and i find that to be amazing that that that the the dnc would prioritize this issue over everything else it's it's just illog. But it's also kind of a hoax at the end of the day
Starting point is 01:31:07 because, number one, that's not what the Supreme Court decision on Roe even meant. You can still get an abortion. That's not a thing. And number two, the majority of Republicans, I think, support exceptions.
Starting point is 01:31:19 There's not really that many Republicans who want an outright ban for abortion in this country. I don't think. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe you guys disagree. There are a lot. I think it's a hoax.
Starting point is 01:31:27 I think it's a hoax issue. There are a lot. I don't know. Do you think it's the majority? I don't know. I guess it's, no, like 7%. No, it's way more than 7%. You think?
Starting point is 01:31:38 Absolutely. But you get some loud people that are like, no, it should be completely banned. And then 28,000 people liked the clip. And then it's like, oh, that's going to make a lot of waves. I'm pretty sure if you asked most pro-lifers, I'm pretty sure 100% of pro-lifers would say in an ideal society, there's no abortion at all. Now, as to whether politically they want to ban it, many would be like, well, we'll leave it up to the states. And so that's probably the distinction. There won't be a federal abortion ban.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Seamus Coughlin, for instance, and who runs, is it live action, live action? Live action? Live action? Yeah, the pro-life organization. I don't know who runs it. Check it out. I think their stance is pretty much like no abortions, period. Seamus is hardcore.
Starting point is 01:32:21 He's like one of the only people I know that talks like that. Well, and the thing is, you're asking you know do the majority of Republicans support I think I would say the majority of Republicans probably support some sort of restriction I don't think they all support a six-week ban which tends to be the like earliest uh the heartbeat bans or stuff like that but even in states where there are really intense restrictions you know six weeks or whatever else they still have exceptions for typically rape inc incest and life of the mother. And so there are there is a level of flexibility that there's being presented even in these like more intensive, restrictive states.
Starting point is 01:32:53 And so I think that just tells you that this is not an issue that Republicans are totally 100 percent dead step, you know, agreed upon. And probably that's good, right? This is a complex issue that there should be a lot of nuance and debate to, unlike the Democratic Party, which is like fear mongering. I mean, Kamala always refers to any ban that's gotten passed as a Trump abortion ban, even though Roe v. Wade was overturned under Biden and Trump has said he wants it to be governed by the state. And also he's not campaigning. He is not an elected official from a lot of these states that have these bans that she's so critical of it.
Starting point is 01:33:29 And he said he doesn't support a national ban. No, he says, and he supports exceptions. It's Lila Rose is live action. You mentioned earlier and she, yeah, she,
Starting point is 01:33:37 I know she's full on like no abortions ever anywhere. Yeah. Interject. And I mean, even people commenting right now saying there should never be an exception for rape is no excuse for aborting a baby. I find it so authoritarian and not that all authoritarianism is bad, but like commanding what other people can and can't do with their bodies. And of course, it's the body of the child. You want to protect the life of the innocent. I
Starting point is 01:33:57 get it. But it's also the woman's body. She's over there. She's not you like focus on life. I would probably I'd probably categorize myself more as post-liberal these days, especially listening to the likes of Carl Benjamin and such, and the Lotus Eaters are very smart. And I think I've come to realize over the past several years, post-liberalism is not conservatism. Conservatism has traditional values associated with it. Post-liberalism is more so, at least the things I think are interesting, is recognizing that what you just said, Ian, is just the destruction. It's capitulation, giving up and letting evil succeed. A moral functioning society has to have boundaries by
Starting point is 01:34:39 which people agree to operate within. And so telling someone that we're not gonna let you cut your hands off, there's a reason for that. It's bad for you and you're wrong. Extends to a bunch of other areas as well. However, the reality is it's all about moral worldview. And there are people, I think, you know, when I was a lot younger, I genuinely believed principles dictated things. And so long as we understood the logic behind it, we'd accept it. But then you understand that it's actually morals which are structured in what you think will lead to the correct outcome and what will understood the logic behind it, we'd accept it. But then you understand that it's actually morals which are structured in what you think will lead to the correct outcome and what will make lives better. And that's different for a lot of people. But if there's a collective group of people that
Starting point is 01:35:12 are willing to adhere to a certain set of standards to avoid a certain detriment, then it has to be enforced. That is, if people all today decided, I want to cut my hand off because I have body dysmorphia, we say no. We're going to do what we can to prevent you from doing that. That's bad for you. And then there are libertarians saying, if somebody wants to do it, why not? I think because more people doesn't equal better. You want more quality people.
Starting point is 01:35:38 If you get more psychopaths, it's actually worse. So, but also, I'm riding up the coattails of 30 years of thinking abortion was fine like i just would not fine i hate it but that it's accepted in my so everything is a slippery slope always so uh when you move in any direction culturally and politically you open the door to you push the boundaries of what would be considered extreme so there's a period in this country where gay marriage was considered extreme you go back 50 years or whatever, it was unheard of. Then it got to the point in this country where it became more socially acceptable for a variety of reasons. Proximity, people knew people who were LGBT or whatever and said, you know, they're fine,
Starting point is 01:36:16 whatever, they don't cause me any problems. And then it came to gay marriage. The argument from conservatives in 2008 with like, was it Prop 8 or whatever in California on gay marriage was they're going to start teaching kids this stuff in school. And the Democrats said that's absurd. That'll never happen. But it's logically consistent. The argument then became after the league, after what, 2014 was Obergefell? 15. 15.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Now the argument from Democrats was, well, if there's a gay teacher with a picture of his husband on his desk, you have to explain to the kid what that is, right? So now it has to be included in curriculum. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just saying that when the conservatives were like, if you allow gay marriage normalized in society, they will teach this in schools. And the Democrats said, oh, you're crazy. We're just saying let people live their lives. But the logic was there. Everything pushes the boundaries. you were just saying let people do live their lives but the logic was there everything pushes
Starting point is 01:37:05 the boundaries and so now we're at the point where we had a video yesterday where a guy who's hiv positive said he shouldn't have to tell anybody that he had hiv and that when he got hooked up with a guy and then told him after the guy thought looked at him like he had been murdered but democrats actually are pushing uh pushing laws that decriminalize knowingly engaging in behaviors which could spread h HIV without informing the other person. I think that's bioterrorism personally. Well, this is where we're getting. And the argument is you're oppressing people. Whenever whenever you allow something, the what becomes extreme moves further and further away. This is not a statement of what is right or wrong. It's
Starting point is 01:37:39 a statement of fact that if you say no, rock music, not allowed, we will not have any rock music anywhere in America. And then someone says, what about guitars? Guitars can be used for other kinds of music. And you say, okay, fine, I guess guitars are fine. Now someone's playing guitar and they start playing something that's kind of like rock and people start coming to like it. And then someone says, can we have drums too?
Starting point is 01:38:01 And they're like, well, we already have the guitars. Then you explain to people, start teaching about rock music and what guitars are used for. Then it becomes common. Then someone says, I want to play the drums. It's not that it's right or wrong to play drums. I'm using it as an example of if you open the door to one thing, what becomes more acceptable expands and moves around it. Yeah. But okay. So in an example where somebody intentionally gives someone HIV, something that they didn't want, something that permanently changes their life. Without their consent.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Without their consent is a terrible thing. Like we acknowledge that's a terrible thing, right? But what about giving someone a baby that they didn't want? What about raping someone, impregnating them, and giving them something that they did not want? And this is the moral challenge. I fall into the more libertarian pro-choice-ish camp on this one in that you can't violate one person's consent because of another person's requirements, but there's no middle ground here. It's a razor thin one side or the other. End of story. A guy rapes a woman. There is now three individuals involved, the woman, the baby, and the guy.
Starting point is 01:39:15 Neither the woman or the baby asked for the circumstance, and both are victims in the circumstance. I think the challenge, however, is forcing a woman who did not consent to provide her body to another person. I don't see how you reconcile that. I don't. I don't. I would prefer there not to be an abortion. Yeah. And I think that's wrong. But this is the difference I think I have morally with many conservatives on the pro-life issue. However, we all agree that modern pro-choice Democrats are insane. Yes. Yeah. And I personally, I personally have friends who are the product of rape, the people who I love, who I can't imagine not being in my life. I would assume they've grown quite fond of living. because somebody's raped, they should terminate. I just can't wrap my head around forcing someone to carry a pregnancy from somebody that they never wanted on their, you know, I just can't.
Starting point is 01:40:11 I have this view that a lot of people disagree with, the pro-life conservatives, that if there were two guys walking down the street and a mad scientist kidnapped one of them, or let's not do the mad scientist route. Let's say you wake up in a hospital bed with tubes connecting your blood to another guy's blood and they're like you never consented to this but if you disconnect the blood now that man dies so you're not allowed to disconnect it i'd be like nice try buddy like these these tubes are coming out you can't force me to give my blood to somebody else you can't force to give my body to somebody else it's my life i make those decisions i don't know if we have something planned, but we should do a culture war abortion debate.
Starting point is 01:40:47 I'm pretty sure we did. We should do another one with like hardcore pro-life, hardcore pro-choice, if we can find people like that. And then just sit in the middle and be like. I agree. We should. We will.
Starting point is 01:41:00 And I know how it'll play out. The conservative side will offer up concessions to reduce abortion. And the pro-choice liberal side will say never, no way, never going to happen. Because that happened when we had Matt Bender on with Seamus and Matt Bender called me pro-life. And Seamus is like, no, Tim is not pro-life. So but Matt, but Matt, a progressive is like a woman. She was getting abortion at any point for any reason. No one can tell her otherwise.
Starting point is 01:41:26 And I'm like, even if the baby is going to survive, like it's a nine month baby, like it's ready to be born. Why kill it? So it doesn't matter. It's woman's choice. And I'm like, that's not pro choice. That's pro death. Like, yeah, well, we're going to go to super chat.
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Starting point is 01:41:56 saying, howdy people. Tim, I think it would be pretty cool if one Friday out of the month you offered an elite member the opportunity to come on IRL. Thoughts? We have considered it. We won't because we don't allow people to buy their way onto the show. And that's, it is different. You're an elite member.
Starting point is 01:42:13 And we, you know, like, I think it's really cool that Raymond has joined the, Raymond G. Stanley Jr. has joined the roster. Speaking of, people are requesting that Raymond and I make an appearance together on IRL. So next time he's hosting, I'm coming in fifth chair. It's going to be hot. We can just have him come tomorrow when you're here. Let's do it. All right. I'll sit five tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:42:29 And I'm like, it's really cool, you know, because Raymond super chats so often. He's very involved in the Discord and the community. But he works here and he's a smart guy and he's good at what he does. And I thought he'd be great third chair. And he did a great job. And we're like, you know, Raymond, you're a smart guy. And, you know, we've thought about, we've got a lot of members who call in,
Starting point is 01:42:47 who host before and after show. The challenge is the very thin line of, we have people call, like email us being like, hey, we'd like to sponsor the show for $30,000. And we're like, great, what are you thinking? We come on, we do, thank you and have a nice day. We don't do that. And so there is a way I think we bring discord members onto the show, but I don't think we make
Starting point is 01:43:09 it elite members. It has to just be a general member. It can't be tied to the amount of money you pay or that you're in the elite membership or something like that. I think it might just be, if you're a frequent caller that does a really good job and everyone in the community votes for it, we might do more of like a vote and we can invite the person out to be third chair. That probably makes more sense. Yeah. There's really interesting people that call in. That'd be really cool. Oh yeah, absolutely. We have frequent callers who are very smart and people who host the before and the pre-shows and the after shows. And they're starting their own podcast too. So that's definitely a possibility. The only thing I'm saying is it can't be tied to the elite members club.
Starting point is 01:43:47 It has to just be like, if you're a member, it's totally fine. If people like, if someone, if we do like a voting system or something, that would be actually super easy. You're actually an elite human being, then the spotlight's for you. Yeah, I wouldn't want it to be like,
Starting point is 01:44:00 upgrade your membership, pay more, and maybe you can be on the show. No, no, no, I can't be like that. I just want to give a special howdy to to you token black guy thanks for that super chat sam uri says howdy people i'm here watching failed musician phil labonte and his band all that remains slash megadeth concert i'll catch tonight's stream later i really hope to see dave mustaine on timcast one day oh that's so hot have you been in touch with Phil? Have you guys talked to him since he's been on tour? Anybody? I have a little bit. I have not
Starting point is 01:44:27 even talked to him yet. How's the tour going? I mean, it looks epic. They look great. They're crushing on the bus. Did his bus get broken down or they just got a really nice bus so that it doesn't break down? He said it's the biggest point of vulnerability on any rock tour is the bus. So they've got a really nice bus. I was thinking of
Starting point is 01:44:43 maybe checking out the September 7th show. Let's hit it. It's in Raleigh. Cool. North Carolina? Yeah. I think it's like six hours or something. Yeah, that's not bad. I want to go to the one in Richmond because that's only like two and a half hours. Richmond? When's this? It's late September. But is that on a weekend? I don't...
Starting point is 01:45:00 I'll look. Hold on. If it's on a weekend... Let's go! That'll be great. Let's do an episode from backstage or from the bus, from the tour bus. Oh, man. I don't know. We can. I mean, they're going to be live on stage while we're doing a show. I don't know. Phil's probably going like, Ian, stop.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Phil, we're coming for you. We're all on stage with Phil. He told me that we could all go on stage the whole time. And he wants you to sing. He doesn't want me to sing. He's so jealous. I'm just kidding. Do you have the dates? Let me see. I don't see it right now.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Oh, no. Okay, so Richmond, Virginia is Sunday, September 15th, so I don't know if we'll have the morning show, but it could be cool. Yeah, it's only a couple hours. It's a shorter drive, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:39 Ooh. Asheville, see you in Virginia. Yeah, maybe we'll come here. John says, Fun fact, Tim, did you know that if you ask chet gpt by the trump assassination attempt it will lie to you and tell you that it never happened the more you know yeah i think we were we were messing around this and posting screenshots and stuff that it was like no such thing occurred and then i was like you're wrong and it goes
Starting point is 01:45:57 i'm sorry about that you're correct it did happen and i'm like that's weird dude meta ai i think was doing that too Have you noticed people accidentally calling it the Trump assassination? And it's like the memetic magic of manifesting an actual assassination. You've got to always call it an attempt, a failed attempted assassination. Don't fall privy to the laziness of calling it an assassination. All right. Paul Gray says, Brandon, day one fan. Your new video gave me chills.
Starting point is 01:46:23 It summed up the insanity of the last six years. It should be in textbooks in 2020 and 2040. We are getting hit with buckshot of world changing events weekly. It's easy to lose track. Keep up the amazing work. I got to tell you, man, I think it is absolutely funny when. What is it like two weeks before someone shot Trump in the head, in the ear, but you know, that's part of it said. And I was having a debate with someone who was arguing that no such civil
Starting point is 01:46:52 war was possible. It's not going to happen. Nothing will happen. And then like a week and a half later, someone tried to murder Donald Trump. And the media said, corporate press said, we were a millimeter away from a civil war. And I'm just like, dude, go back to 2018. And everyone says, Tim, you're crazy for talking about this. And my response is, and always will be the same. All I did was read The Atlantic. All I did was read The Hill. A Princeton professor said it. The Atlantic said it. My opinion is not something that I fabricated out of thin air saying the end is nigh. I was going, wow, look at what these national security advisors and corporate outlets are saying about the conflict in the United States. They may be right. And then I bring on a journalist and talk about it. And everyone's like, huh, Tim's crazy for thinking
Starting point is 01:47:35 that's going to happen. And I'm like, I'm just repeating the corporate press, not even a unique opinion to me. Last night, I was opening a box as a bit of a metaphor. And I full force ripped the box open. And but I was too close to the wall. And a metaphor and I full force ripped the box open, but I was too close to the wall and I slammed my elbow into the wall and it ripped open the skin and I was bleeding. And I was like, how quickly life can change. And I just went, everything was about healing my elbow. Everything became how fast something, the entire system can alter and your priorities
Starting point is 01:47:59 can shift. Well, here's most people who suffer any kind of accident. You're driving in a car. You're going to get pizza. It's a boring Saturday, you know, early evening with your friends. And you're like, we'll go pick up some pizzas and then, you know, go back and watch the fight or whatever. And then you get T-boned. You wake up three months later and you can't move your legs. And you're just like, what happened?
Starting point is 01:48:21 That split second, that moment. And your life did a 180 a 180 so my life became all about trying to charge an electric car yeah 24 hours it must have been like hell on earth and it was the same one elad got what is it called uh polestar polestar 2 and there's no charging stations there's one every one oh there's lots just none of them work this is like a real scam running out of rental car agencies in New York. How long does it take to charge that thing? Well, so there's slow stations, fast stations, and super fast stations.
Starting point is 01:48:52 So I went to all of them. And one of them, I think, was the super fast station. I got about 60% charge in about 45 minutes. Whoa, that's terrible. Yeah, that was fast. That was like the super fast. I went, I picked up Cybertruck today. Whoa, that's terrible. Yeah, that was fast. That was like the super fast. I went, I picked up Cybertruck today. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Drove one Tesla with all of us in the car. At 75%, we arrived, it was 90 miles, and we were at 45%. Then got the truck, grabbed some Chipotle, drove back. The Tesla upon return was at 13%. So it carried four people on the way there, and it carried one person on the way back. And so that's 180 miles before it went from 75 to 13.
Starting point is 01:49:34 They say the range is 300 or so, but it's certainly not. Just so everyone understands, I had to rent this car. There was no choice. I don't want people to think I lost my mind. Is it the same thing? Yeah. Literally the only car that they had, There was no choice. I don't want people to think I lost my mind. Elad said the same thing? Yeah. Literally the only car that they had was a nightmare. Elad said he waited around for
Starting point is 01:49:47 a different car to come in and after a while had to be like, okay, I need to get on the road. I guess I'll take the EV. What rental agency was it? Hertz. That's what Elad said, wasn't it? And these are both in New York, which I think is funny. I'm being serious. There's some sort of conspiracy afoot. Yeah. Two minor questions. One, can you charge one Tesla
Starting point is 01:50:04 with another Tesla? So a Cybertruck can charge a car. Oh, that's hardcore. Two minor questions. One, can you charge one Tesla with another Tesla? So a Cybertruck can charge a car. Oh, that's hardcore. I'll stress it again. You can charge your other Teslas off of Cybertruck. It's crazy. And apparently, Cybertruck has a 40-amp outlet in the back. This is nuts.
Starting point is 01:50:18 It's got two power outlets and a 40-amp, meaning you can power your fifth wheel. You can power your RV. And it can power your home, I they said for like three days can you store a second battery in the cyber truck so you can swap it out that i don't know that'd be cool but it's kind of funny because like people you know obviously i'm not going to use cyber truck to haul a fifth wheel trailer across the country and so when people are like why would you buy a truck why would you get a cyber truck and i'm like because sometimes we go to Home Depot. People have pickup trucks.
Starting point is 01:50:47 I don't know. Is every pickup truck hauling heavy machinery across the country? No, we get a pickup truck because sometimes I got to go to an air conditioner. We go to Best Buy and get an air conditioner. And Cybertruck is just another truck, I guess. It's bulletproof. That's pretty cool. Honestly, that's the only reason.
Starting point is 01:51:01 That's so cool. But the windows are not. There's a version of Cybertruck I heard that the windows don't roll down because they're bulletproof, but most of those aren't. They're super strong windows. The side paneling, unlike most cars, are not bulletproof. People think they're because of movies. No, they're not. Cybertruck is.
Starting point is 01:51:15 I am not going to shoot Cybertruck. That's not going to happen. You call it Cybertruck? You've named it? It's called Cybertruck. I didn't even call it the Cybertruck. I just called it Cybertruck. You're not going to shoot it?
Starting point is 01:51:25 No. Maybe one day? not going to shoot it? No. Maybe one day? Never going to happen. All right. Super chat. Let's grab some more. ZK Mutz says, Brandon, I just submitted my video for the 10K challenge. Be on the lookout for art and demoralization.
Starting point is 01:51:36 My walkaway story. 10K would be a lifesaver in this Kamala economy. Kamala economy. There you go. Kamala economy. How are you judging the contest? So we actually have a group of judges that are going to be watching every single video. I'll be one of them along with various people on my team.
Starting point is 01:51:59 And between now and I think around October 15th, we're going to choose the top 10 when we get to the top 10. But first of all, I want to say to the first 50 people who enter the contest automatically get $100. So you get 100 bucks literally just for being one of the first 50 people to enter. But we'll narrow it down to the top 10. And then between the 15th and somewhere around November 1st, we're going to narrow it down to the top three. Third place gets $500. Second place gets $1,000. First place gets $10,000.
Starting point is 01:52:23 And people can enter by going to walkawaychallenge.com. What's the parameter for the competition? So there's a lot. And they need to read all the rules before they submit. So go to walkawaychallenge.com and read all the rules. But basically, you have to tell a truthful and heartfelt walkaway story. It doesn't matter to us. I recommend like five minutes.
Starting point is 01:52:40 If you go too long, it's, you know. But I recommend submitting like a five-minute video. You have to submit it to our Facebook group, our app, walk away social and on X. And you have to use the hashtag walk away and the hashtag walk away challenge when you post and fill out your submission form. Are you taking into account like the quality of the actual video content? Like if they have a swirling camera kind of on a track and stuff like that with your asking.
Starting point is 01:53:02 Yeah. You're asking all the right questions. So we're awarding some bonus points for creativity. But the main thing is that we don't want anyone to feel like they don't have a chance. The most important criteria is that your story be true and that you speak from the heart. But if somebody does some amazing creative production, obviously we're going to give some credit for that.
Starting point is 01:53:23 And we'll give a few points as well for engagement. You know, if people are posting on TikTok and Truth Social and, you know, if they're spreading their own video, we'll give bonuses for that as well. But the first 50 people get a hundred bucks to go to walkawaychallenge.com. That's pretty cool. All right. Eagle Union 1776 says, Moon Lord. Well, greetings, Moon Lord. And why doesn't that also, why doesn't that also known as surprise me at all? Interesting. What does that mean? They call me Moon Lord partially because I'm cosmic.
Starting point is 01:53:52 They used to call my dad Cosmo when he worked at the fire department, I guess because he was out there. And I wonder if when I'm controlling the weather, I'm actually sending energy through the moon, refracting it back onto Earth. You're not, but let's read the next one. Chris says, I work in the hydrogen industry.
Starting point is 01:54:04 Steam methane reforming is our go-to globally, but let's read the next one. Chris says, I work in the hydrogen industry. Steam methane reforming is our go-to globally, but all Biden policies incentivize electrolysis, a terribly inefficient method. Steam methane reforming. Uh-oh. He's got a new one. We're going to have to make Ian's steam methane dream. Sounds delicious. Sounds like a
Starting point is 01:54:19 latte. It does. I think a lot of Biden's environmental policy is sort of in-name-only. It's to be like, I am the most green president of all time. I think a lot of Biden's environmental policy is sort of in name only. You know, it's to like be like, I am the most green president of all time. I also feel like Kamala has sort of dropped this. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe she's about to bring it back. But he kind of pushed that he was going to be this environmental champion.
Starting point is 01:54:37 And I just don't hear her talking about it. Although she doesn't talk about that much, to be fair. She's been talking about clean energy a lot when she's been dancing around policies. She's been throwing out some buzzwords. No tax on tip and clean energy. About the unrealized gains, there goes the startup culture and stock IPOs where the founders keep control.
Starting point is 01:54:56 These morons keep screaming net worth and they don't understand stock price X number shares owned. Yep. It's an impossibility. Uh, Elon Musk owns a bunch of shares in Tesla. Uh, he can't sell. Oh no, Bezos is a better example. Bezo owns tons of Amazon. It's most of his net worth. He legally can't sell shares. He's bound by the corporate articles because if he were to dump shares, it would destroy the company.
Starting point is 01:55:21 So he's restricted on when he gets to sell based on the performance of the company. Same thing with Elon. If they came to him and said, you own $100 billion in shares, you owe us, and they went up a billion dollars, you owe us $250 million. He's going to go, OK, well, where do I get that? And you figure it out. Sell stock. And he goes, I legally can't sell the stock because of the articles of incorporation restricting
Starting point is 01:55:44 me from when I can and cannot sell. And then we're going to seize the stock. Okay, then Amazon disappears. Every shareholder panics, sells everything they can, and gets out of the company because it's going under. The idea is stupid and makes no sense. Let's grab some more super chats. Jeff Dapkin says, Grandpa built a house north of San Diego, three bedroom, two and a half bath for 75K in 1975. We sold it after his passing for 1.025 million last year.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Wow. Where was that? San Diego. My step grandmother could never afford this kind of tax. Yeah. California is where I've heard a lot of those stories. I guess. His grandparents bought it for $6,000.
Starting point is 01:56:22 It sells for 2 million. Here's an idea for the movie Up. You know what's funny? So have you guys seen Up? No. You've never seen it? I know of it. It's a cartoon where the guy attaches balloons to his house.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Animated animation. Yeah. So it's him and this young girl. They grew up together. They get married. They always want to travel. They never do. She ends up dying.
Starting point is 01:56:42 He's a widower and he lives in this house. And developers come and say, we want to buy the land. He goes, I'm not selling it. And then over time, developments build up to take his house from him. It would have been much simpler than that. They should have had a tax assessor show up and say, you know, Mr. Whatever your name is, this property is worth $50 million. You've been offered over and over again $50 million. You won't accept it. You owe us $500,000 per month, you know, or you owe us, you know, I don't know, like $500,000 for the year on property taxes. And he goes, I can't afford that. And they go, then we suggest you sell.
Starting point is 01:57:27 And then he puts the balloons and flies away in the house, which gave him the land anyway, by the way. When he put the balloons in the house and flew away, they got the land they wanted. You know what I mean? I think part of it was the house itself, right? Like there's a whole montage where they're like moving in and fixing it up and whatever else. Like he doesn't want them to destroy this house that reminds me of late white and he could have said i'll tell you what you can have the land but relocate the house to another field would it like a open field area they would have been like done how much do you want we'll give you we'll give you a million
Starting point is 01:57:56 dollars and relocate the house for you he would like fine instead he put a bunch of thinking creatively that is so true he put a bunch of balloons in his house, flew away, and the developers went, problem solved. We didn't even have to pay for demo. Did they pay for the balloons at least? No, he did it all himself. You know, they demoed my grandma's house like that. They wanted her land because they're building the natatorium and expanding the city hall. And she wouldn't sell.
Starting point is 01:58:17 She's like, over my dead body. When I'm dead, you can have it. She probably just should have sold it because when she died, they took it cheap. Let's grab some more. We got Vito says, Ian, you say you would be alienating people if you said you were voting Trump. Shouldn't you with the platform you have be a leader to should you have to be a leader to show even a guy like you sees voting Trump is the clear way forward that it will help more? I think that the clear way forward is fixing the economy. I don't really care who the president is.
Starting point is 01:58:42 I just want to think Kamala is going to fix the economy. I don't think any of these presidents can do it. They need people like us that can do it. They need the private sector to really come together and organize. That's really where I'm focused, is creating art and building technology. So I don't want to get too embroiled in the politics
Starting point is 01:58:57 because it can get pretty divisive. You think Kamala will not make the economy worse? Man, it's like, what do we do if she takes an eye at what we're doing? She's like, oh, I like that. Let's install that. Then maybe she's talking about a tax system that makes literally no sense and will just rip the economy to shreds. I mean, I'm not a big fan of that girl.
Starting point is 01:59:16 I don't think she has any command experience. I'm not going to vote for her. In 2019, Donald Trump, like, I'm not going to blame Trump or Biden for COVID. COVID happened. And you can argue Fauci. You can argue whatever you want. I'm going to say moot point. Biden had the beginning. I'm sorry, Trump had the beginning. Biden had the end. Let's just say fine on that regard. We're several years after COVID. The economy is still trash and they're going, but the metrics prove otherwise.
Starting point is 01:59:37 Yeah. Go ask a father how he's affording groceries for his kids and he's going to complain. Tell me why everyone feels that way. Your stats mean nothing. I care about the sentiment of the people. Yep. Before COVID, the best numbers of our lives, unemployment was low. Youth unemployment was low. Minority unemployment was low. Salaries were up. Wages were up. Inflation was down. That's all I look at. So that means the evidence suggests a Trump presidency would improve the economy. And we know for a fact that the Harris administration has done nothing in the past three years. The economy has only gotten worse. Thirty five point one seven trillion in debt.
Starting point is 02:00:09 That's that's true. I mean, unless we well, it's not insurmountable, but we just need to reconfigure the way we're using fuel. So, I mean, it's a simple equation. It's not Kamala is leading the government right now. The economy is bad up on before COVID. The economy was really was working really well under Trump. Therefore, the the simple choice would just be Trump is better for the economy. We hope.
Starting point is 02:00:29 I also think I'm in it like I'm not looking at it from a distance anymore, like a kid watching TV and being like, I want that guy to do it. I actually know Don Trump Jr. I know Laura Trump. I know Kimberly Guilfoyle, Don's wife. I know them. And I feel like I could really help them as people. If Kamala contacted me is like, please be our director of energy. I would help her. I will do whatever I feel like I could really help them as people. If Kamala contacted me and
Starting point is 02:00:45 was like, please be our director of energy, I would help her. I will do whatever it takes to help this country. All right. We got the text that says it was reported the abortion bus has done something like 30 unalivings already. There are videos people are posting where people are going into and coming out of that abortion bus. That's so creepy to me. It's when you take when you have a chemically induced abortion, it's not like popping an ibuprofen, right? Like there are serious consequences. There are side effects.
Starting point is 02:01:12 And this is just being treated like it's, you know, stepping into the bus to get your temporary tattoo at the DNC carnival. It's so creepy. You said vasectomy bus too? You know, I think it's all in one. A lot of people are pointing out Trump was on Theo Vaughn. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I look forward to seeing it uh i want i want to get pete buddhij
Starting point is 02:01:27 you'd be great yeah i watched him uh i think he would i think he might actually do it i saw him on fox and friends and i don't think they did a particularly good job at talking to pete buddhij i think it was too adversarial they're talking past each other and pete buddhij made a lot of points that clearly like did so one of the points made was crime went up under Trump. Buttigieg goes, I don't think your viewers know that crime was up under Trump. And the response from Fox was like deflection or whatever. And I'm just like, my response is, yeah, of course. Absolutely. Pete, that's a really great point. And during this time period, when we were all sitting here talking about the news and going to these podcasts, complaining about this, as you mentioned, the crime went up.
Starting point is 02:02:09 We were wondering why it was Democrats kept saying defund the police and why Kamala Harris was was offering a bail fund on her Twitter account to people who had just rioted and the worst riots. So, yes, while Trump was president, crime went up and we begged Trump like you must have wanted Pete to invoke the Insurrection Act, send the National Guard because that's his federal authority. I don't know what else you expect him to do as the president to deal with governor's issues. But yes, I completely agree. When the crime went up, Trump should have invoked the Insurrection Act, sent in the National Guard and shut down those leftist riots. That's not the response Fox gives him though. So I welcome Pete Buttigieg to come on and say that to me because I'll have the conversation with him and say, you are correct. And if he wants to talk about inflation went up under Trump and jobs were lost, I'd like to talk about COVID, because we can argue about Biden have that members-only show coming up for you now. I'll try and talk a little slower. Become a member, but for $10, you can help us fight fake news and help the show stay afloat and do all that good stuff.
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