Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1095 Police CAPTURE Man Who Threatened Trump's Life, Kamala Speaks At DNC w/Michael Malice

Episode Date: August 23, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, Ian, & Raymond are joined by Michael Malice to discuss Trump admitting he's in danger as a man is arrested for threatening him, SCOTUS upholding an Arizona law requiring proof of citizenship for voter registration, the Texas AG launching an investigation into potential voter fraud, and the Daily Wire trolling Democrats at the DNC with a fake Project2025 website. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Raymond @raymondgstanley (X) Guest: Michael Malice @michaelmalice (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Download the BetMGM Ontario app today. You don't want to miss out. Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions. 19 plus to wager, Ontario only. Please gamble responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, So apparently there was a manhunt in Arizona for a man who was threatening to kill Donald Trump. Trump didn't know. They ended up catching the guy. And it's crazy. There's an interview where Trump, in the middle of the interview,

says, we have to stop talking. We're actually in serious danger right now. I don't know. I just think, man, since last month, when Trump nearly died, they got to take this stuff seriously. So watching Donald Trump leave that bulletproof glass gets me kind of nervous,

if you know what I'm saying. But they caught the guy. And there's, we'll go through this and the the security issues they're saying there's going to be a special guest at the dnc rumors are taylor swift beyonce or george w bush i i don't know why but people think it's going to be george w bush but if it was i mean that would be the weirdest thing ever so uh probably not but we got some big news SCOTUS has ruled in favor of requiring proof of citizenship in this court case out of Arizona for voters. We'll talk about that. And then we've got Ken Paxton going undercover, investigating individuals trying to register illegal immigrants to vote. Man. And then, you know, I talked about this this morning and I find it kind of strange that it's not bigger news, but we're so entrenched in domestic politics. You know, like a little while ago, Ukraine invaded Russia, like straight

up invaded Russia, and Russia was forced to evacuate 130,000 of its own citizens. Yeah, so escalation seems pretty likely. And it's a it's pretty freaky. So we'll talk about that. But to head over to Tim cast.com, click join us to become a member, support our work directly, and you will get access to the Discord server where you can hang out with like-minded individuals and also submit questions

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Share this show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Michael Malice. I'm going to everybody. Who are you? I usually have them. Okay. I got to tell you. No, I meant that emotion. Like, who are you?. Okay. I got to tell you. No, I meant that emotion.

Like, who are you? I know. I know. This is, I think, I don't even know what time this is that I've been on the show. And this is the time I am most unexcited because we're going to have to sit here and listen to Officer Harris give her talk. It's right at 9 o'clock. It's going to be awful. We know what it's going to say.

And like, I, it's just going to be excruciating. And I've been to North Korea and I'd rather be in North Korea right now listening to this talk again. Well, you can't bring me down

because I know every time Malice rolls in, I feel like Gandalf's here and we're about to go on an adventure. I'm much more of a hobbit than a Gandalf. Let's be honest,

I'm 4'11". But I agree because when they pulled Biden out, I was, I was actually disheartened. Yeah. And I opened the show by saying they're going to make us talk about her. I know. I know. I know. It's like the view. It's like the view of becoming president. Well, so that's Michael Malice. Ian's hanging out. Yeah, I'm excited. Let's roll, man.

I see. I feel like Tim is Frodo carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders. And I'm like Sam, the comedy relief the one who who's the one who got all fat and now is for Carmel that's me that's Sam it's Sam no he went on Twitter and he's just like I'm a natural leader and I'm not for Camelot Samwise Sean Astin maybe yeah man what a career

no I'm not Frodo I'm I'm the guy who thinks he can wield the ring but then goes insane and gets killed by the Oromir that guy had it rough. That was Sean Bean. Anyway, that's Ian. Hey, everybody. Raymond's hanging out as well.

It's the hat of Sauron. Hey, friends. I'm Raymond G. Stanley Jr. I have facilities of maintenance here at Timcast. And we're already having a blast here with Michael, so we're looking forward to it. And Hannah Clare's hanging out. Yeah, I'm Hannah Clare Brummel. I'm a writer for scnr.com.

I'm so happy to be back. I'm glad we can have Michael with us. I know you're really doing service to the country right now by being willing to listen to Kamala Harris and decode it. Thank me for my service. I am Austin's bravest. All right, let's jump into this first story. Check this out. Arizona man accused of threatening to kill Trump nabbed after manhunt during former president's border visit. Apparently, Trump says he wasn't even aware the manhunt was going on. Also, apparently, I guess this guy is a pedophile.

Is that correct? He failed to register as a sex offender. Oh. So that could maybe be something else, but he's probably a pedophile. Yeah, 66-year-old male. It could be adult. Yeah, that's what I mean. It could be, but like, you know, I don't know.

And then Trump was talking to a reporter in Arizona, and he says, they don't want me standing here. I'll just play the clip. It's kind of scary, but it's kind of funny. Obviously an assassin tried to kill you. Yeah. Can I tell you something? We're in danger standing here talking. So let's not talk any longer. No, I know about it, but they don't want me standing here.

They don't want you standing here either. Have a good time. Thank you very much. Peace mode. I mean, this is kind of crazy because it's like a month ago, someone literally shot Trump in the head. The side of the head, I know. It just sounds crazier. But it was his ear.

And the crazy thing, too, is how people think it was staged. They think that Trump set it up and it was like the shooter was intentionally aiming for his ear. It's all these people who say, well, if you have someone robbing your house to shoot the gun out of their hand, it's these types of people. But apparently they did. What do you mean? The local police did shoot the rifle out of his ear. Oh, sure, sure. But the broader point is, I'm sorry, if the corporate press was as concerned about this as they are about climate change. That would be a normal response.

The fact that they kind of shrugged their shoulders and moved on is extremely disturbing to me. And I have Alex Jones' tinfoil hat on the wall of my house next to your beanie. You've seen it in my house. And I don't think errors of this magnitude are made lightly. It's not possible. It's impossible. I'm not a gun person, i know enough if i was saw that stage to scope out where the possible oh but it's not it's it's not just that it's that they

they have photos of the shooter walking around with the rifle yeah so he was there and they were like oh hey look that guy and no one did anything about it he isn't creepy at all it's like it's a gun right it's immediately just you stop the guy but they did not they let him do it it's not i would say it's technically not impossible but it is so unlikely that that was just an oops yeah but here's the thing deserves i'm sorry because it is impossible let's just sorry let's steel man this if we're running a restaurant and you serve chicken and some kid goes to the hospital because the chicken was undercooked we're freaking the hell out and we're like all right we got to look through every step because this can never happen again. And that's the only thing we're talking about is how did this happen? What's our workflow?

That doesn't seem to be the case here. Yeah, this this would be more like a kid goes to the hospital after eating raw chicken, which somehow affected him within 40 minutes. And then he like spazzes out collapses and we go, whoa, what happened? And then every every member of the staff is like, well, we did see a guy walking around with a jar that labeled arsenic, and he was spritzing it on the chicken. But we didn't do anything about it. We fired the chef. I'd be like, yeah, that wasn't an accident. He came in, and you guys, you were complicit.

Yes. So when your job is to make sure a guy doesn't come in with weapons to try and kill the president and you release him from holding, you know there's a threat. People are screaming at someone. Come on. Okay, how about this? Let's try Michael's analogy. A kid eats raw chicken and then falls. No, no.

How about let's just say he eats peanuts. He's allergic to peanut butter and he goes, and he falls down. We're like, how did peanuts get in his food? This is crazy. And then the people you hired specifically for the purpose of making sure that this kid doesn't eat any peanuts. That's the, this is the peanut job. Yeah, that's right. A guy came in carrying a big bag, bag of peanuts. We noticed it and we said it was fine. People started screaming. He's got peanuts. He's going to put peanuts in his food. And we were like, don't worry

about it. And then the guy walked over and shoved peanuts in the kid's mouth. That's how it happened. He'd be like, right. Were you in on it? And then they say, well, we're investigating it right now. Like, we're looking into it. We'll get back to you on how this happened. Investigate ourselves if I'm wrongdoing. I also want to add, we don't even need to use the peanut allergy. It's just getting convoluted. A guy was walking around with a rifle at Trump's rally and Secret Service is like, that's fine.

I don't believe it. And here's the better part. Okay. And I mean that facetiously. When the guy was walking with a gun and Secret Service is like, so what? They didn't care. When the guy opened walking with a gun and Secret Service is like, so what? They didn't care. When the guy opened fire, they didn't even respond first. Local law enforcement did.

Then Secret Service. That's where the story gets really crazy. That's where it's like Secret Service was letting him do this, like just hands down. And then they get to continue on their way. Right. It wasn't like anyone got moved off. Everyone who has Secret Service protection maintained the same, as far as I know, the same Secret Service protection, except for maybe Trump when he walked out surrounded by men instead of women at the RNC a couple of days later.

I don't understand why he has the money. I don't understand why he doesn't hire supplemental private security. I hope that he has and he hasn't talked about it. That's smart. That's probably right. You're right. They're undercover. You're absolutely right.

That's the move. You're right. Stupid me. Yeah. No, Ian's correct. That's how we operate. When we make security upgrades, we don't tell people what our security upgrades were.

Except for the person who put gum under our table, we have 24-7 surveillance camera and we will find you and we will publish the footage. Yeah, it's probably Dave Smith. Throw your gum out before we go live. Right before we went live, Michael noticed there was gum under the table. And it tasted terrible.

It was blue. I know. Yeah. You know who you are. You can watch the video of someone speaking who has a blue tongue. I think it was like a mint.

It wasn't like a bubble. It's not going to taste in their tongue. Good forensics examination. I'm a gum person. I know the texture. Big on gum. Let me ask you, Michael,

because we've all talked about the Trump assassination stuff ad nauseum, but you said you got your tinfoil hat on. Who do you think what do you think is behind this? And I'll say this, too. So, you know, I can just tell you where I'm at. Some official capacity wanted Trump to die that day.

Some some official my my I said this when we were at the RNC right after it happens. Do people. So the three questions, does Trump derangement syndrome exist? Sure. Of course it does. Are there people, what was the second one I said? Are there people who were happy that this attempt on Trump's life happened and have expressed remorse that they didn't succeed? Absolutely. There's been men on the street interviews. And the third question is, is it possible that some of these people might work in government? Well, of course, absolutely. All of these things are one for one.

So the idea that there could be someone in official capacity in the Secret Service that wished that actually happened to Trump is probably extremely high, especially considering I think it was McNabb who said several members of federal intelligence agencies are expressing their intent to flee the country if Trump wins. So my position is the likely scenario in the Trump assassination is some official capacity. Have you ever, I'll give my answer. Have you ever had Jessica Tarloff on the show? No. She's a great lefty. She's on Fox, which is like in the lion's den. I don't think they're allowed to come on the show. Maybe. Okay. I just, I had her on my show. I'm a big fan of

hers. I think she's fights for her issues inarticulate and insincere. I was praising her this morning. So I had her on my show, and we're talking about the Clinton, like, the so-called Clinton death list, or hit-kill list. And I said to her, I go, if I'm a president, and I genuinely believe that it's important for me to stay in office and my opponent will cause harm to this country,

and I'm responsible for causing wars, in which case, armed men and women are going to die for my country, and I have those blood on my hand, but that's the responsibility I take. Why wouldn't I, hypothetically, just take out one person who I thought was a problem to what I think is the best for America? If I can handle a war, what, I can't handle one? And she's like, yeah, you're right. Like she was like, okay, that logic makes sense to me. So hold on. So in this context, I completely agree with you that the so-called – look at J. Edgar Hoover.

He had more power than many presidents. They would have to bend the knee to him. All our phones are tapped. They have compromise on pretty much any politician because you're not going to get to Washington without being highly corrupt. And I don't think any of this is really kind of in dispute. So I don't know if it was – I don't think it was planned, but I think if I'm the guy playing chess, I could set up the board that's like I'm just going to leave these weaknesses and let things happen, let the chips fall where they may. Yeah, so – That's my position.

The way I explained it is it's actually much more simple than people realize. Now, finding someone who's crazy and would actually pull off a stunt like this is an operation indeed. But – It's just rolling dice. At a certain point, they're going to present themselves. If they do it every time, all you have to do is whoever is organizing secret service, say there's five points of five vantage points. They then tell everybody, hey, I'm going to be assigning you your security position. We have five vantage points. I'll let you know where to go. Each of these individuals has no idea what other people are doing or what

they've been assigned. You can compartmentalize it very easily. So when no one is securing that building, even though law enforcement requested it four days in advance, all it takes is one, someone in logistics to have not assigned someone to the position. Then the question is, but people were screaming, he's got a gun. How did Trump get released from holding? So they knew the guy was there. They have Trump in the the holding position which is a secure area before they release him how did he get released simple one person in logistics they call and say is a threat clear and they go yep you're all good all it takes yep we're good so not send trump on out but you know how else i think your theory holds credence because these when i was a kid you're showing my

age the whole point of the secret service is your job is to someone's firing kid, you're showing my age, the whole point of the Secret Service is your job is to, if someone's firing, you're taking that bullet, you're taking that knife. They're getting trained for that. I'm taking my life for the sake of the president.

It does not seem that when this went down, no one went on TV and is like, I take pride in this organization. The Secret Service has been protecting presidents for decades.

This has destroyed our name. I take full they should they should be on the verge of tears yeah because again this is they it's like marines or any of these other like high or like the navy seals they take themselves so seriously and that brand is so important to them the brand is dead but you would think but if the brand they would be like this can never happen again i'm so sorry as much transparency as possible without you know making someone in danger in the future but be like, this can never happen again. I'm so sorry. As much transparency as possible without making someone in danger in the future. But be like, I resign. This is on my shoulders. I accept responsibility.

Instead, we got Kim Cheeto who said, the buck stops with me. Except also local police was in charge of that building, which is bizarre anyway. She was immediately shifting blame away from the organization. She repeatedly said she wouldn't resign. Obviously, she did. And I think that speaks to sort of institutional rot within the Secret Service. Because, you know, you get members of like the Trump family praising individual, you know, agents saying they've been on my family's detail. We're close to them, whatever else.

But the fact that the overarching leadership of this basically did nothing. She didn't even hold a press conference. Then Sheetal's first appearance was an ABC interview. That's how they view this as their ability to become. We know this is true because in 2020, all these law and order figures sat in their hands while those cities burned. Yeah. So they were perfectly happy to see lots of people's lives get destroyed if it further their agenda. Oh, 30 plus deaths.

This is what I'm wondering, because like. Firebombing the St. John's Church, firebombing the White House grounds, utilitarian warmongers are like probably thinking, OK, they love Trump out of the way so that we can reengage in the Middle East fully without any resistance. But if he dies, then his base is going to erupt in a fury and we might have a civil war in our hands. We don't want that. But then if it's an external force that doesn't give a crap about the United States, they'd be happy to see it erupt into a civil war. I slightly disagree because if, God forbid, a president gets or a former president who's running for office gets taken out, that is a great excuse for authoritarians to be like, all right, we're cracking down Patriot Act. You know, everyone's a suspect. That'll give them the ability to really turn screws.

And they had the Iran thing ready to go. The Iran story trickled out afterwards weekly like they were like, oh, and by the way, I guess Iran wanted an attempt on Trump's life or is going to in the future. Now we're like, wait a minute from what actually happened, though. I mean, now when you look up Trump assassination attempt, a lot of headlines are that instead of crooks shooting Trump in the ear and then never us never getting an explanation from Secret Service. It seems just clear that what seems like the clear, obvious thing is that there was some sort of plan to assassinate the former president and then blame it on Iran and get us into war. They're talking more today about a line that Trump supposedly said in Charlottesville than the fact that one of the major presidential contenders and a former president was just almost murdered. And I heard someone actually was killed well and one of the emphasis tonight at the dnc critically injured yes one of the emphasis tonight at the dnc is victims of gun violence like are they going to bring trump out

on stage probably not he's the special guest you know why they want iran too so bad it's because of the gulf of aid and if you look on the map it's real apparent why they took kuwait in the 90s so they they that's where they they basically seized access to the persian gulf from iraq they took it and they made kuwait whenever they made it. And so that's the American piece. Then they ship into the Persian Gulf, and then it goes through the Gulf of Aden. But Iran can block off the Gulf of Aden at any moment. Then we can't get our oil into the Indian Ocean.

So we need that. You've got Saudi Arabia there. Is it Aden or Aden? Aden. Either, but it's very far away from Iran. No, it's bordering it, man. No, it isn't. You're talking about the Gulf of Oman. Oh, Oman. Okay, thank you. The far away from Iran. No, it's bordering it, man. No, it isn't. You're talking about the Gulf of Oman.

Oh, Oman. Okay, thank you. The Gulf of Oman. Is that what you meant? Yeah, yeah. It goes Persian Gulf, Gulf of Oman, Indian Ocean. So Iran's basically bordering it and patrolling the Gulf of Oman. If they shut it down, we can't get our Kuwaiti oil into the Indian Ocean.

Right. That's a big problem for the American war machine. I think you got your regions mixed up, but you are correct. Thank you so much. Kuwait through the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman can get out into the Arabian Sea. Yeah, and so they've got, that's why we're allies with Saudi Arabia, probably, is because it protects not only the Suez Canal, but the Persian Gulf oil access. And then Iran's just there like a thorn, literally in the side of the Gulf of Oman. And let's also point out that Iran is Iran because

the Shah was overthrown because the U.S. is like, okay, go overthrow the Shah. And it's this, this really drives me crazy in contemporary politics and people are like, when something is bad, whatever the alternative has to be better. It's the worst thing ever.

It's like the Shah's authority is terrible. He's terrible, which I'm sure was true. But then as compared to what? It's not always true that whoever replaces what's bad is going to be better.

Same with Saddam Hussein. That's the end of our business. As well, correct. Let's jump to the story from Fox News. SCOTUS gives partial victory to GOP trying to enforce proof of citizenship to vote in Arizona. The law group says each state should determine its own voting process. In a 5-4 ruling Thursday, SCOTUS gave a partial victory.

The court was asked to allow enforcement of sections of Arizona's law requiring documented proof of citizenship to cast a ballot in the presidential election, including when voting by mail. The Republican Party of Arizona said on August 15th that it had filed an emergency application pending appeal for the U.S. Court of Appeals Ninth Circuit in support of HB 2492, a law requiring proof of citizenship to vote in the presidential elections. A federal judge had blocked the enforcement of the law, which prompted the appeal to the high court for temporary relief. The Constitution gives states the power to set voter qualifications, and Arizona is leading the charge to ensure only citizens vote in our elections. The Arizona GOP tweeted, this case has the potential to prevent non-citizen voting once and for all, which should have been the case all along. Now, I got a question. Why are Democrats opposed to citizens

requiring proof that they're citizens? I mean, really or ostensibly? You know the answers to both. Both. Well, I know, but we'll say it for the audience. I mean, really or ostensibly? You know the answers to both. Both. Well, I know, but we'll say it for the audience. I mean, really, it's because they want to make sure the people are going to be voting for them. And ostensibly, what they say, because poor people don't have ID? It's something crazy like that. I think they say black people don't have ID. But not in Arizona.

That's not a question. I don't think that matters. I think they just say black people anyway. But it's, yeah. But it's illegal immigration. Let's just be clear. But the truth is, yeah. I think it's illegal immigration. I think they just say black people anyway. But it's, yeah. But it's illegal immigration. Let's just be clear. But the truth is, yeah. I think it's illegal immigration. I think it's also illegal people voting repeatedly.

I think it's a lot of things. That's fair. It's not only illegal. I think illegal immigration in Arizona is the issue, though, because it has such, you know, the proximity to the border. I mean, what's interesting about this is that when you read it, it's, you know, you go on the Secretary of State's website and it's like, yeah, when you want to register to vote, you can, like, bring your driver's license or you can bring, you know, you go on the Secretary of State's website and it's like, yeah, when you want to register to vote, you can like bring your driver's license or you can bring, you know, a photocopy of your birth certificate or your tribal ID number.

Like all of these very reasonable things, tons of options. It's not like you have to have just one form of proof of citizenship. And the argument from voting rights group is, well, you're going to make it difficult for lots of people. And also, you know, when they go to verify people's citizenship, you know, this could threaten millions of Arizonans. So you're saying that there is a problem, that there are non-citizens voting in elections in Arizona. I don't understand.

And I think it's very un-American that this idea that we should make it as easy as vote as possible. Yeah, it should not be. It should be very difficult. No sense to me. At least intermediately challenging. Yeah. Like not like anybody can trip over a rock and vote. I don't even think it's that challenging to be like, here is my driver's license. Here's a copy.

And my male genitalia. Those two things. And the problem is that conservatives, libertarians and not necessarily libertarians, but probably more so, are willing to accept the lightest form of argument, which is we just want IDs. OK, how about this? We'll play the big ask. In order to vote in this country, you need an ID, two credit cards, a bank, a debit card, three years of tax filings. Yeah, three years of tax filings. And then when they say that's insane, no, whatever vote we go, OK, OK, fine. How about we settle with like your birth certificate, Social Security card and an ID?

Yeah. Do you know what I think? Can I change the subject a little bit about the Supreme Court? Because I think this is a really smart move for the Republicans. They should say they have to. They have to do this because there's been enough talk bubbling under from Warren and all these other types that we are going to have a constitutional amendment to limit the Supreme Court to nine members. And the Democrats vote no.

They say, if you vote no, we're going to pack the court. So either we've settled this argument once and for all, or you guys want to play this game, we'll play it first. Because otherwise, they're all talking about so-called rebalancing the court, which means adding however many to make it a left-wing court. It would be 13. Yeah. A total. At least.

Right. But you know the reason for that, right? So that they win. There's federal districts for each justice. Okay. But some have more than one because at a certain point we stopped adding justices. Okay. So the argument for adding more justices is I think we have 13 federal districts. Maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe it's 12. That's the ostensible argument. I think it might be 12. I'm wholly not opposed to more judges, to be honest. I don't like the less judges. It feels like the worst. If we had one judge, that would like the worst if we had one judge that would be the worst case scenario that one guy gets to decide everything so like at least we have

a group of people like a tribal elder 12 elders you know i'm not going to live in the long house with you hippies like with this tribal why would you let you right here thank it well but i i don't know i don't i get nervous about a small group of people making epic decisions for 350 million people it's always The Senate's 100. The presidency's one. But they're wholly ineffective. I mean, there's 450 people making decisions for the rest of us. It leaves the rest of us in the cold.

I've got to tell you, it's easy. I'm sorry, Dr. Go ahead. And then the businesses will bribe these people to make decisions outside. The will of Congress is basically the will of the lobbyists and the big money. And the rest of us are left wondering why are drug prices so high. But you did just bounce from Congress or like from Supreme Court having too few and then Senate has too few, but now Congress has too many. Like, I agree with you. It is difficult to determine what

the most effective way to govern is. On the other hand, like our system is developed to have checks and balances. And if they all of the branches of government function the same way, we would have the same kinds of problems over and over again. Like in the New Deal. Yeah. Yeah. I think the other part, you know, I just want to jump back to this for a second. So the partial victory is that in Arizona, they are allowed to enforce their their proof of citizenship requirement. But if voters register via a federal form, they don't have to provide proof of citizenship. So that means that the state has done a really good job of securing election integrity, in my opinion, for Arizona,

for any position in Arizona, but on the federal level, anyone casting, I don't know, a presidential ballot, they don't need to verify that there is proof of citizenship. I also don't agree with the conservative argument that if the Democrats are stealing, the so-called stealing elections, they're doing it through illegal immigrants. I think it's much more they would do things like filling out forms for other people, you know, like how, when you have a campaign contributions, like it's in my name

and I just put your guy's name as if you contributed, like stuff like that. They don't need to deal into that kind of illegal area when there's enough that they can deal with in gray areas, especially in cities,

to put them over the top. Here's an easy one. Somebody who lives in Arizona, in Phoenix, and then moves to Los Angeles and a mail-in ballot arrives at their old address in their name. They vote in – somehow. Yes, exactly.

They vote in both states. Arizona and California don't come together and say, can we compare notes? So you've got 50 states. If they cast ballots in the name – and you know what? Let's just say this. Let's just say there's a Democrat out there who thinks, I've got to do whatever it takes to stop Donald Trump. So they, whoops, I just forgot. I voted twice. Now they voted twice in two different states. And if it's Illinois and it's LA or California, those states don't compare their voter rolls and see who did it. Matt Brainerd

did this and he found duplicates in Arizona and California. And then what happens? Nothing. But I think people also don't appreciate, and maybe COVID didn't teach them enough, that this country is a lot more loving of authoritarian than we would like to believe. Like, there are a lot of people in this country, a lot, who would want to go back to COVID era America. Like, they were happier there because they liked their cage. Yes. They're Democrats.

Yeah, there's a lot of them. That is pretty terrifying to think of that. Like with the Kamala Harris situation where they installed a candidate and people are like clapping like wild animals at the. I. But they you know look I think the for those that saw the graph that I posted about the Krasensteins and didn't understand it, a few people really hit the nail on the head with what the graph meant. It is a – I responded to Ed and Brian, liberals, and it's a graph showing on one axis intelligence. Pull it up. Oh, yeah, I'll pull it up. I love these guys, by the way.

Oh, yeah, we love the Krasensteins. Are they even shorter than me? Actually, we were all sitting down. I didn't get a good look at them. I did the debate with Alex Jones. The first thing, the first graph I'll show you is just for fun. It's Kyle Kalinske's ability to recognize farms from an airplane correlated with his use of X. And the more he uses X, the higher his ability to recognize farms from an airplane.

This is just a joke because Kyle Kalinske once famously posted a photo from an airplane where he was looking at a bunch of farms and he says, wow, I wonder why it looks like that. And everyone was like, are you joking? Those are farms. How is he expected to be a serious pundit on politics? He doesn't know what farms are. Yeah, should I pull that one up?

This makes me sad. You know Kyle? But it's like when Sarah Silverman had those swastikas on the floor and they were like construction markings where that reporter found rubber bullets You know Kyle? It's not that. But it's like when Sarah Silverman had those, what was it, swastikas on the floor? And they were like construction markings where that reporter found rubber bullets and thought they were, I don't remember what he thought they were. Okay, here you go. He says, this is the land by Colorado-Kansas border from a plane. Pretty cool.

I have no idea how or why it looks like this. Apologies if Watson says it's called farming. People are supposed to take him seriously. But at least he's honest. He doesn't know. This was years ago. This was a long time ago. But anyway, that was a joke.

But this is what I wanted to show you. I completely forgot what we were talking about. It's time for voting. So in the Democratic Party. Right, right. Yes, yes. So I made this. It says Brian Krasenstein's intelligence.

And on the bottom axis, it's Brian Krasenstein's honesty. And the more honest he is, the lower his IQ. And the more dishonest he is, the higher his IQ. The point being made is that he either knows that he's lying to you or he's really stupid. And a lot of people figured it out. But a lot of his fans were like, what does he even mean? I don't even know what you're trying to say. I'm like, I also want to point something else out on the screen that you're following him, but he doesn't follow you back.

Oh, Brian. He doesn't follow me back. Look on the right. Oh, you're right. He doesn't follow me.? Look on the right. Oh, you're right. He doesn't follow me. Well, you see, I'm interested in hearing all different perspectives. But it was where he was making fun of J.D. Vance. This is the point I'm making.

There are people like the Krasensteins who will not tell you they do want the authoritarian COVID-style lockdown regime. If you look at Mike Bloomberg, you understand their mentality perfectly. Bloomberg said we should tax the poor because they're too stupid to make their own decisions. He said that? Yes. On stage. He didn't say it literally that way.

He said something, I'm paraphrasing, but he did say, poor people don't know how to take care of themselves. So we should tax them so that we can spend money for them and they will be better off. Mike Bloomberg literally said this at a public event live on stage. I just something that isn't that the argument behind like food stamps and Medicaid, though? Yeah, I disagree wholly with the argument. The argument for food stamps is basically sometimes the ostensible. Ostensible, right. Is sometimes people fall in hard times.

And we have unemployment benefits, disability benefits, food banks and these things to help lift you up so that in your time of need, you can get back on your feet. What Bloomberg and many of these liberals are arguing, and they won't. The point about this, this graph I made is that Brian's not going to tell you he knows what he's talking about. He wants a system by which powerful elites tell everyone else what to do because he's one of these people who thinks everyone else is just too stupid to function properly. Can I have just one quote where she says anyone who wants more power for the state is or wants to be the state?

Yes. Sure. Absolutely. Interesting. I think what you end up seeing with the left and the right, there are many different components that make up the tribalism of the left and the right. Some say it's authoritarianism versus libertarianism or nationalism versus globalism, whatever. But a component certainly is people on the right tend to be individuals who think a decentralized power structure is better. And the left are people who want a centralized power structure. With themselves at the center. Yes. And so people like the

Krasensteins, who are very well off relative to the average American, presumably based on what they earn on acts and the things they've posted that they've later said they don't make that much money, but they've got large followings. Sure. So based on that, they do a presumably based on what they earn on acts and the things they've posted, that they've later said they don't make that much money, but they've got large followings. Sure. So based on that, and they do a good job for what they do. Absolutely. I look at them and having talked to them, there's no, you know, a better example is at the Krasenstien's. The only reason I use them so often is because they do interact. I give them that respect. They interact in ways other liberals don't, but David Pakman's a really great example. He's a really great example of someone who knows he's lying. And I know for a fact he knows he's lying because

some of the stories that he's researched for for his segments, there's no way you could accidentally come to the conclusions he's come to. Have you ever had him on the show? No, he wants to come on the culture war, you know, and again, I'll give people respect in this regard. He hosts his own show for him to take time off his own show to come here would be doing this. That's fair. But we are working on having him come on, and he wants to only do a one-on-one with me. That'd be cool. Oh, sure. And I think there's – I was just shown by our booking agent this big, long list of all of the leftists and liberals that have been invited on the show and how they either give an excuse or don't respond at all.

And there's an obvious reason why they won't come on. They cannot handle an actual conversation around the issues. They can handle Charlie Kirk. With all due respect to Charlie Kirk, they can handle Charlie Kirk. Because Charlie's going to debate for Trump, and he's going to debate for conservatism, and that's all that's going to happen. So if they say something like Trump did bad thing,

the typical response you get from a conservative is, oh, yeah, well, what about X? Yeah, what about Biden? What about Biden? Yeah. Whereas a debate with Michael Maus, for instance, or Dave Smith or with me is going to be OK. Like I was telling Michael. Can I say one thing, though? There's something else in addition to that, which is when I've used this example a lot.

When I was growing up, you had the WWF wrestling and then you had the NWA where Ric Flair was the main champion. And sometimes people come up from NWA to WWF and they pretend this person just never existed before. And they had this kind of synthetic reality where these other people just don't exist and you don't know how to change the channel. So I think for a lot of these lefties, if their audience is never,

your name is never mentioned or some of these other people, it's effectively for their audience, this person doesn't exist. Yeah. They don't want to validate your existence. They don't want to draw any attention to it. It's like otherwise you're literally, no one I know listens to Tim Pool.

He's a nobody. I've never heard of that guy. I've never heard that guy. If, if, so I mentioned this the other day on the show, but I'll say, I'm saying it not for the audience who's heard me say this three times now, but for, for Michael, Pete Buttigieg was on Fox News. Right. He's bragged about it.

He went to DNC. He's like, you may have seen me on Fox News. He's bragged about it. He went to DNC, he's like, you may have seen me on Fox News. He repeated the line, crime went up under Trump. And Fox's response was to hem and haw and deflect and say, oh, but you can't say that. Oh, but what about this? What about that? When the appropriate response is, oh, okay.

That's it. Wow. Yeah, sure. And my response to Pete Buttigieg is specifically, and that's why wow i i yeah sure and my response to people judges specifically and that's why when trump was president and crime went up we talked about it every single day and we didn't ignore the fact that trump was president in fact we complained trump wouldn't invoke the insurrection act day two after the riot started i walked into the living room where you were and i was like why is he not calling in the national guard so to say but but crime went up under trump my response is you are correct and so what we were looking for was

either governors to do the job trump was unwilling to do which they did not and trump wouldn't intervene either now trump's got an excuse he's not the governor he's at the federal level and he would have to he would have to step over the states defying them to invoke the insurrection and the media and then call him a nazi and i can understand why he didn't want to do that although i'm disappointed in it correct pete budaj now i think a lot of conservatives would just say oh that's not true blah blah blah let me find my stats that prove me right instead of actually just saying fine i don't care when when the krasenstein said oh you're calling price controls marxist is it marxist when trump does it my

response is yes next question weird i gotta wait this is why they won't come on the show though because then what's the answer i agreed with you next they don't have one i want to talk about this authoritarian like how you guys are talking about appeal to authority and how some people want more state power and like the value of state power and how sometimes large swaths of stupid people can't make decisions for themselves because i think i'm thinking a lot about utilitarianism and the reason why run away it's not good the reason why we got sucked into war in the Middle East is because we need resources. Because if you have not enough resources, people will riot. So they're trying to...

That's not true. We don't need resources. There's lots of poor countries where people don't riot. Well, the United States isn't used to being poor. So if all of a sudden we ran out... There weren't riots, really. What's that? We had the Great Depression.

There weren't like 2020 riots. No, they sent them off to war right away, though. No, they didn't. It weren't riots, really. What's that? We had the Great Depression. There weren't like 2020 riots. No, they sent them off to war right away, though. No, they didn't. It was 10 years. Yeah. 29 crash. We got into war, what, 38, 39? Yeah, 31. I think it was later. It was 41, right? Yeah, for a while it was 41. 41, yeah.

But that's one way to quell an angry populace is to send them to war to die. Sure, that's true. But like, I don't think everyone can make, I mean, that's why we have better men in the constitution, why we have a small group of people kind of making these decisions for the masses. I don't believe in democracy.

It makes no sense. About letting the crowd make the decision is like, most people, I don't know if it's not that they're stupid. It's just that not everyone's a genius. It's also they're irrelevant. Like I don't, just because if aristocracy, we all agree, I should hope, makes no sense.

You're born into this family, therefore you have a right to tell me how to live my life. That's crazy. However, if you live 500 yards away from me, then you have a right to tell me how to live my life. What? Yeah, you would think meritocracy.

Sorry, sorry. What the heck are you talking about? Through like a meritocracy, you would elect the best people to run the show so you can sit back and just enjoy it. The best people aren't going to run, and the people to run the show so you can sit back and just enjoy it. The best people aren't going to run and the people who run the show

or run those windows elections are people who win popularity contests. Go back to your high school and think who won the popularity contest and ask yourselves, are these really the best people? They're not.

And the proof is Dave Smith. He didn't run. The best libertarian candidate was Dave Smith. He didn't want to run. Oh, he'd be a disaster. And I say this as his... You don't think he'd be good?

Oh, I know this as his press secretary. It would be a disaster. In what way? I'm joking, I'm think he'd be good? Oh, I know this as his press secretary. It would be a disaster. In what way? I'm joking. I'm joking. But he would have been better than literally anybody else that was running. Correct.

No question. That's not even a question. I was teasing. From his wit, his intelligence, and— Dave Smith? Yeah. Okay. Absolutely.

And his connections. Best press secretary ever, by the way. His connections, his friendships, his network. And he didn't want to do it. And I get it. I respect it. A lot of people don't want to step up and enter the fray in this in this way that doesn't reward you other than society itself. Right.

Like the structure of society itself. And then you look at someone like Tucker Carlson. Right. He doesn't want to run either. And a lot of people wish he would. Right. So this is the challenge with with politics. No, you get people of of little societal value that's

what it is they don't step up to the plate they sociopaths politicians are people who lack the skills to win so they say how about i just get in government then i want my name on the uh the annals of history here's my path to doing i'm not good why would you put your family through this i asked this of a vague i'm like dude what are you doing i asked this i had a mosh on my show too i'm like you have a great wife and you're really into being a dad. Why are you doing this? What was their answers? And Amash had a good point.

He goes, I left Washington for a while. We had a good talk. The kids are a little older. And the guy they're running right now in Michigan is a complete – he's even worse than Mike Pence. Like I feel like I could put a stop to it. I'm like, hey, that makes sense to me. But Vivek was like, listen, I feel like I'm saying things no one else is saying. I'm like, okay, that makes sense to me too.

He knew he was – I know what he said on purpose, on public. He knew he wasn't getting the nomination, but he sure moved the needle and he sure made a name for himself. So his campaign was a great success. Yeah, he set a lot of conversations forward. Yeah. Let's jump into this story from the Washington Examiner. Ken Paxton launches election fraud investigation. This is big news.

He said secure elections. I believe this is a yes. Secure elections are the cornerstone of our republic. We were glad to assist when the district attorney referred the case to my office for investigation. We are completely committed to protecting the security of the ballot box, the integrity of every legal vote. This means ensuring accountability for anyone committing election crimes. He's basically saying, well, let me read. In one of the investigation, which has been ongoing since 2022, the O.A.G.'s Criminal Investigation Division executed multiple search warrants on Tuesday in Atascasa, Bexar and Frio counties. The investigation

launched after the office received a referral from 81st Judicial District Attorney Audrey Lewis regarding allegations of election fraud and vote harvesting that occurred during the 2022 elections. After gathering evidence, the office obtained search warrants to further the investigation. No other details are available since the investigation is ongoing. He also announced that there were groups trying to register people to vote outside of certain administrative buildings where you already were registered to vote inside, and that the only reason they'd be outside is because people who got turned away

would then go to these other groups to try and get registered again, which is to imply these people are not eligible to vote and they're getting made, they're getting their registrations filled out illicitly. Texas, interesting. The narrative we're receiving now is that the polls are tightening in Texas.

It was 9%. Now it's 7%. Now it's seven percent. Now it's five. Trump and Kamala. Now it's five percent. Ted Cruz only have two points and last point. Right. And hey, man, I called this a long time ago that with the Help America vote verification system showing Texas getting hundreds of thousands of registrations with no IDs. Something was wrong. And the hypothetical was they'll start reporting that Texas is actually a purple state and it's getting close and it could flip that way. No matter what Trump wins, it's over. If Texas flips, Trump cannot win. If Trump wins every single swing state and loses Texas, he still loses. Here's the other thing. Texas has a very even though Texas is like deep red and like good old boys and all that other stuff. And I say this is a lifelong native Texan. We have a very bizarre state government where the Speaker of the House or the Senate Majority Leader is a Democrat.

And they basically just pick whoever they want. It's so it's even though they just completely just try to take out Ken Paxton. Correction. If Trump wins every swing state and Texas flips, Republicans still win by two. Oh. They are predict, like, so he would have to win every single swing state. How many states is that? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

Let's just hit the map. So it's one, two, three, four, five, six. There are six states that are considered up for grabs right now. Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, five, six. There are six states that are considered up for grabs right now. Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada. If Trump wins all of those and loses Texas, he still wins. Wait, hold on. There's also those districts in Maine and Nebraska. They're up there.

I'm just saying, yeah. Agreed. I don't see that. I mean, if Trump lost both of these, oh, you want to know what happens if he, if both of these go, let's, let's. There's a way to do it where it's a tie. Yep. And not that one.

There is a way to do it where it's a tie. We went over this, and I forget what it is. I forget which states they have to win and Trump has to lose or whatever. But, yeah, it could end up 268 to 268 if, oh, I know, if one of the, I think if Nebraska goes full red and then Trump wins a certain amount of states, it ends up as a tie or something. I think if Kamala wins PA, I don't know. This is a great website, 270towin.com. That's what it's called.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how to find the tie. Wasn't Missouri really big on the registrations? They're not coming through as rural registrations. They really had high numbers when they went over them a couple weeks ago. Missouri had the large amount of dead people trying to register to vote. I mean, just in

terms of the next generation, though, a lot of these illegal immigrants are going to have anchor babies. We're not supposed to use that term, but what are you supposed to do with that? But that's why Democrats do this. Of course, yeah. I agree agree with you they're thinking long term yes but we are we are we're at a point um this is what i was talking about yesterday we are not voting for a president we are voting for a system the democrats right now have entrenched themselves in a system where there's no primary they choose choose who the candidate's going to be. There is no campaign at all.

Kamala has no positions. She's advocated for nothing. Her website lists nothing. She was installed. Will you vote for that? Yes or no? Donald Trump is. He's got Agenda 47.

There was a brutal primary where friends became enemies. Do you want to vote for that system? But here's the other thing. This isn't really new because they did it basically in 08 with Hillary. And they – remember Debbie Wasserman Schultz says, oh, we're having debates for maximum visibility. It's like 12 o'clock on Mother's Day, like just these bizarre – You know what, 16. Because in 08, when Hillary was definitely going to be the candidate for the Democrats, and she had that ad about like, I want to make America wonderful. And let's have a conversation. It was completely innocuous. And then someone, a fan,

made an ad of the 1984 Apple commercial that had someone swinging a sledgehammer and smashing into her face. And the Obama logo came out. And all of a sudden, there was a race in their hands. So this whole like, I'm not gonna have any policies on paper might be a smart move, but it does not really at least it hasn't worked in the very recent past. But my point is simply there are people screaming and cheering for a system that is Kamala was chosen. No one voted for her and she has no policies. And there are people like I'm voting for that.

But the thing is, that was the Biden campaign was, I'm not Trump. Trump sucks. Oh, man. Right. And it worked. It's the same campaign today. It's the same campaign. It's the third time they run like this.

I disagree that it worked. Because he's in the White House. There's other things that. So Democrats didn't win the argument. They won the procedure. I'm not arguing with that at all. They didn't win the argument. So Biden's campaign of, I'm not Trump, is not winning an argument.

They won procedurally. Correct. They had better lawyers. They had better a better ballot ballot harvesting apparatus. Sure. And the Republicans had no idea what was going on. Correct. The Republicans were sitting there was were standing up there being like, if we argue the best, we'll win. And boy, howdy, did he argue the best? The metrics were showing that economically Trump should win. I'll be at COVID kind of jammed things up. And then ballot harvesting happens. And that's the simplest way to explain it. You also had things like voting in the park, voter in the park or whatever, things that were challenged constitutionally. You had Pennsylvania violating its own constitution to create universal mail-in voting, which I don't think is answered properly in the courts. Texas v. Pennsylvania was never answered properly. Democrats rules lawyered they figured out the meta of the game and solved it and the republicans thought they were playing a they were they were they were playing above board and they were gonna win that's an argument for their democrats they know how to move the system better right so but my point is right now the democrats i mean fine

in 2020 and now the democrats whole thing is there is no election. I mean, since 2016 with ousting Bernie, the Democratic Party represents sit down, shut up, and let us figure this out. But that's popular. That's my point. Yeah. So right now, the election is not Trump v. Harris. I agree. We're on the same page. It is communist style of governance with the political party that chooses what you do versus constitutional republicanism where friends become enemies.

And we argue. We have a primary. And the popular candidate wins. And then he lists his agenda. And then we decide if we like what he has to offer. I kind of like the first one in the sense of I don't really want to hear from everybody. Like I think we heard from a lot of people during COVID. And the things they have to say are not things I'm interested in hearing because they make no sense even on their own face.

Like why are we doing social distancing in March and then we're not doing it when the next wave comes? When, what, was it a mistake then or was it a mistake now? Right, but the first system is those people in charge. Right.

Not necessarily. The argument for some of these people in the Republican Party is we're going to become those people, which I don't think can be done, but that's their agenda. The Democrat plan. That's the idea behind Project 2025, ostensibly.

Is what? That like we're going to get, because the whole idea behind Project 2025, if I understand it correctly, not how it's been maligned, is Heritage is like, okay, Trump's biggest Achilles heel is he had to drain the swamp by staffing the swamp, right? So if we put forward a bunch of people who are ready on day one, like Betsy DeVos, who have an ideology and who could start reverse engineering this leviathan, we can actually get things done.

So that was their proposal. Like, here are the policies, here are the people, let's get going immediately instead of calling up Rents Priebus or asking Mitt Romney to be possibly Secretary of State. And then it's been demagogued. And then it's like six months into, you know, whatever term. Right. And then it's been demagogued in this thing like, oh, he wants to ban pornography. That's his whole agenda.

I think that is. We just had Paul Danz on last night who created it. Oh, well, he was the director of it. Yeah. But I'm sure he's not some kind of wacko. I'm sure he's very mainstream. It's all about organization. Normal dude.

Very normal dude. And he said they've written this for every administration for 50 years. Yes. The Democrats are just pretending like it's something. Correct. I'm trying to figure out when were superdelegates introduced. Is it 1968? It's been a long time. That's the totalitarian

It's not totalitarian. No, it's incrementalism. Yeah, exactly. Superdelegates where they can say, this is our candidate. Superdelegates aren't allowed to vote in the first round. So if there's an overwhelming primary, superdelegates don't do anything. But if the primary does not result in a clear winner,

then they have a round of voting with no majority, then the superdelegates can come in. And so they can stop, you know, Obama if they wanted to, but they chose not to,

but they did choose to stop Bernie Sanders. So, yeah. But it also makes sense because they have skin in the game. Like, if I'm Jon Tester, I'm not excited about having Kamala Harris at the top of my ticket. Republicans don't have this. And Tester never endorsed her, right?

Is that true? Yeah. No way. For Montana? He hasn't endorsed Kamala? No, he hasn't endorsed Kamala. And he's in such a tight race in Montana because he's, I think, Montana's only Democrat. And he's vulnerable this year.

He won't win. He's not going to win. I think the Senate's gone for Democrat. Here's my prediction. West Virginia is obviously given for the Republicans. I think Tester's a goner. And of the three between Michigan, Nevada, and there's a third one. PA's got one.

Casey's up. One of those three is going to go Republican. Ohio's the third one. One of those three is going to go Republican. There's no way red state Democrat senator wins. It's just not happening. The polarization is too real. I think so.

I don't know. Nevada could go Trump in the federal and Jackie Rosen could be reelected. It's not inconceivable to me. Well, Nevada is a swing state. Sure. Montana and West Virginia are mega country. Correct. I think Montana is actually no Wyoming's the most.

Yeah. Jesse Smollett just got lynched there last week. Wow. A couple of years. But the corporate press won't tell you about that because they're bought and paid for by the Rathoglicans. Let's do this. I want to jump to this shocking website, project2025.com.

I got to tell you, Daily Wire got this. Yeah. I didn't think these guys had in them because this is such a beautiful hipster throwback. It's something out of Tim and Eric. It looks like GeoCity. It does. I'm impressed. Let's slow down. So this is the Project 2025 website. Daily Wire

bought the URL from Heritage Foundation. It's the only explanation I suppose. Because when we were reporting on the story, we went to Project2025.com and pulled up their website. Now it redirects to this fake website where it says it looks – it's a fake website promoting – look at this. It's broken.

The counter is just going crazy. It's a promotion for the movie Am I Racist? Yeah. The counter. They're going crazy? Yesterday it was counting. Yeah. Oh, it's broken. I thought this was just like a like a gif and now there you go the actual website's.org

that's what paul was oh is it yeah oh so 2020 so they bought this and it was actually.org then yeah well that's what website he shouted out last night at the end of the show project 2025.org is their website you're right that's what it is So they bought the dot com. But Democrat voters who were like, what is this Project 2025 thing? And by the way, if Christopher Cuomo wants to buy ChristopherCuomo.com, I'll take any offers. You have it. And JohnOBrandon.com. You've got ChristopherCuomo.com? And JohnOBrandon.com.

Can we do something with it? What do you want to do? I don't know. Can we sell hot dogs online or something? That sounds great. Hot dogs. I think we do better than hot dogs. Let's sell these new protein bars. protein oh how about ssris because did you see him on the floor of the

dnc talking crap about all the the seats up top the hundred the million dollar box seats he's like 500 000 looking down on you that are voting for to take your country back they're sitting up there watching you from above right now man of the people, man of the people, clearly. It's a cool video. Look, this website, I guess when you click anything, it just links you to their Donate to the Cause. It links you to...

I'm shocked that they had it in them. I'm shocked. I know. I'm very impressed, especially with Am I Racist? Like, this mockumentary style... So is that really matt on the floor of the dnc yes that was yeah i thought it was a joke whoever is coming up with their guerrilla marketing campaign is a genius like and and i gotta say this is the some of the most

effective activism and i'm surprised like you said the daily wire has it in them what uh what is a woman was great this next degree they're doing this it's basically a sequel of sorts it's round two am i racist where they actually got him with uh was it robin d'angelo is that her name yes holy crap and she didn't know who he was and she she leans over in the trailer and she's like we got to be careful you never know who these people are he's like yeah yeah of course never be actually he also had sarah rayo who's the greatest person yeah i love her and they got in these meetings this is this is the like the 2016 energy of the memes that were helping trump daily wires actually hit the nail on the head with this stuff and this is the kind of edgy funny comedy a lot of people have criticized daily wire because they did uh mr bircham i think

it was and lady baller just it wasn't really funny they didn't do a good job of it but with all the stuff they've attempted this one what is a woman and am i racist have both already hit the nail on the head with the hammer they're really they're funny guys i think if they weren't political they'd be really famous it'd be a huge production company because they're political they've got a niche i i think they can get there this proves it because this is a Borat level. Yes, yeah, yeah. It doesn't need to be political. What's masterful about this is if I were going to strategize a political campaign to diminish.

Actually, I'll give you an example. YouTube brought me in 10 years ago. I brought a bunch of YouTubers in to talk about the problem of ISIS extremism and recruitment on YouTube. And they said what's happening in the UK is that ISIS is making these videos where they're basically attacking the ideology of these young men who believe in Islam and then lying to them to trick them into coming to join ISIS. What do we do to counter it? Because when we censor these videos, they're not actually what YouTube said was they don't

break the rules. They just say, doesn't the Koran say this? Then shouldn't you do something like this? Wink, wink. Like, how do we deal with that? How do we counter it? And you got a bunch of surface level garbage where people are like, well, you know, what you should do is make a video where you explain, hey, that video is not real or put a flag on the video. My response was, why don't you make a show, comedy bits, with people who are not extremists and make sure you're propping up people who don't espouse that ideology so you're countering speech with more speech. Then these young men who believe this ideology and want to do good go towards where they see success. This is the point about, yeah, am I racist? Instead of what people criticized lady ballers for was that it was too on the nose. They were too preachy.

This is just insulting these people. The whole thing is Matt Walsh going undercover to do the journey, do the work, and it's putting these people in the light of them being creepy, weirdo, crazy people. When we had that, what was that garbage show that went viral? New Norm.

Did you see the New Norm thing? No. What? It was animated. You didn't see the New Norm? Dave Rubin's in it. Oh, I did see that. It was on X.

They called it the- South Park of X. South Park of X. And I saw one episode. It was pretty bad. So there's no, it was a pilot short where, do I got to pull up the New Norm for Michael? This is worth watching. Is it?

Yeah. Michael, he did do a denounce my whiteness online. He sat down with some people, and they figured out who he was, and they called the cops on him. And they were worried that they told the cops that they were going to break the window down because they were scared. That part I heard. So this is the show, The New Norm, with 34 million views.

Everyone hates it. I'll just play a little bit of it. What's that? Progress. It's the new norm. The new norm ain't the same as the old norm. I'm the old norm. I want normal beer.

Warning. Warning. Parade reached. It's your fault I got house arrest. You're the one who threatened the school board. I gently suggested they stop brainwashing my daughter that girls aren't girls and men aren't men.

Sometimes they're neither. Okay, we don't need to watch anymore since Michael gets it. Thank you. He's falling asleep. Look at his face. I'm not. I'm just, I'm livid. So the point I made. There's two genders, right and wrong. The point I made about this is that the real way to do a show like that is to not have

the wokeness be the crazy enemy. It's not to just rehash news stories. I said, make a normal family, a normal family sitcom where their neighbor is woke and is the butt of jokes. That's it. The woke neighbor comes over. They're friends with the woke neighbor. And the woke neighbor says, you've got to come help me. The new movie theater opened and they're playing a movie that's racist. And they got Flanders. Exactly. Exactly. The neighbor is annoying, overly preachy and is the butt of a joke. Yeah. A Karen. Also as an acting tip, don't emphasize the pronouns when you're talking.

It's your fault. You say it's your fault and you don't emphasize the pronoun. Ian took issue with the acting. I also, I get that they're parodying the laugh track shows, but it's still painful to hear a laugh track. That wasn't parodying laugh track shows. They're trying to make one.

Everybody roasts. It's pretty literal. It's really, you gotta see it, dude. It's worth it. I mean, it's strange. It's not meta. They're literally making a sitcom show with a laugh track. It's painfully bad. No, you know it's meta because they're making fun of Archie Bunker.

They're not making fun of Archie Bunker. That's Archie Bunker, though. I understand that, but they were serious. Like, they put it out there because they want to promote it. I feel like that quote about how many levels are any on, man? Like, I can't wrap my head around this at face value. Maybe it's got 34 million views. Maybe you're onto something.

So if you're correct on this, it's a leftist making fun of the right. With Dave Rubin. Yes, we're getting Dave Rubin to do it. Clearly, the main character is supposed to be regarded facetiously to some extent. He's not looked at as the voice of Sandy. He's Archie Bunker. Archie Bunker was the punchline. Well, perhaps.

It's one big troll. I'm not saying it's a big troll, but I'm saying you don't look at that character and think he's the voice of reason. You're encouraged to laugh at him. I agree with you that it's poorly made. You're telling me that character, the main character, the dad, is supposed to be presented as the voice of reason? If you're correct on this one, and you may be, then it's either someone who knows nothing of the culture war trying to pander to the right to make money, and this is what they think they want to watch, or it's a leftist insulting the right by making a very, very awful show and then mocking them for making an awful show. I think a lot of times people want to be like, and this only happens on the right,

I'm making fun of both sides. And the thing is, it's also ridiculous because when people say I'm making fun of both sides, like I'll call you annoying and you call me a rapist, it's not really the same. I'm pretty sure Larry L did it too, right? Yeah, there's a lot of big names. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, so I don't think, I think it's quite literally conservatives tried making a show and it's miserable. Unless it's jujitsu, man. I don't know. Now I'm wondering. Hold on, hold on, hold on. They always make fun of the dads. If the show is called The New Norm, right, isn't the premise that this old-fashioned guy is trying his best to adapt to what's the new norm. So the new norm is the norm.

And he's the fish out of water. Except that the new norm is ridiculous on the show. He's the pun of the jokes then. He's the punchline. Yeah, it didn't make a lot of sense. He can't progress. He's just stuck in his old norm ways. So his friend shows up.

I think it's Larry Elder who voices him. And then the woke guy goes, but you're black. And he's like, oh, here we go. And it's presented from this lens of the Norm, the normal guy, and his black friend, and he's wearing a Redskins shirt, are surprised at the woke. And then the woke guy gets a phone call from Rachel Levine. Really? Rachel Levine? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And a guy in the military. Low-hanging fruit. Good Lord. Exactly. That, yeah, yeah, yeah. And a guy in the dog, the guy at the military. Low hanging fruit. Good Lord. Yeah, exactly. That's why everyone's roasting it. So anyway, to get away from all that, the point is doing these mockumentaries

where it's Borat style insulting to the woke and the left without preaching for what you actually think. You know who else does this perfectly? Who does it? Alex Stein. Oh, yeah, exactly.

And I owe Alex a big apology because I had him on my show not that long ago and i'm like dude why'd you come so hard for destiny and then you know the assassination happened destiny came back yeah oh attempt the assassination attempt yeah i was i was kind of spun out over that when he when he approached destiny on stage at that minds event yeah i Yeah, I was very upset. Not very upset. I was like, dude, come on. What did he do? Destiny was on stage. Alex just crashed the stage and started screaming at him. And he was asking all these questions. Destiny couldn't even respond. And I'm like, what are you doing? But the argument then is if

Alex just explained it on my show. Because if Alex hadn't done that, Stephen might not have spun out. Real quick. Kamala Harris is going to be speaking at 10 Eastern then. Interesting. They were reporting 9 this morning. Right,

but that's 9 Central. They pushed her to 10? NBC said 9 Eastern this morning, but I could... Because NBC5 Chicago says 9 PM hour. We could keep the show

going a little longer, but you know they're going to start late. Destiny handled kind of well. He put his feet up. Didn't really care what Alex was saying.

Do you think it's... Destiny didn't care. He put his feet up on the table. Didn't really care. He did care. He played it off of well. He put his feet up. He didn't really care what Alex was saying. He put his feet up on the table. He didn't really care. He did care. He played it off, I guess. Yeah, but what are you supposed to do? Get mad and fight. It's also like it's really effed up that you're on stage. Someone crashes and gives it to Mike.

It's like, what the hell am I supposed to do? No one pulled him off. No one stopped him. So I'm not familiar. It was not a bit. He was actually just going after him. Yeah. In alex way he had a smile on his face he wasn't like you know good it's like good to hurt him yeah but it was still like what do you do it was very off yeah it was very off where where was it at the mines of it in austin at the vulcan and alex was

like your wife and steve was like oh my god again this is all you people and then he kind of lumped in this weird conservative people thing. And it's like just reinforcing his stereotype of crazy people on the right, which is not good for his brain and people on the left. So like, I didn't personally, I don't know, man.

I'm not much of a social jammer. I think honesty and kindness is the better path, but there is a place for Alex's style of comedy for sure. I know, and Alex explained it on my show and it made a lot of sense. Cool. but i do think ian you often take this approach where you can can can consistently give the benefit of the doubt and try to empathize with evil people yeah you think that's turn them to the light i'm like uh obi-wan i think destiny's evil i'm not talking about destiny okay i mean i think destiny is a bad guy for sure um you know

if we get into the the depth of his being, maybe we come to the conclusion that he's evil. We have to have a conversation about it, but I just mean, Ian often says things like pardon Hillary Clinton. You know what I mean? But that's kind of like a utilitarian hostage negotiation type of thing. Like pardon everyone,

get it over with the move forward. That's insane. No, no. I want the lawfare to end. And I feel like if you can end it across the aisle at all at once you could end it michael is uh uh governors forget mo yes think about the sith if you if you strike one down another one just pops up somewhere else in the universe so

you gotta build another lamppost you gotta turn them to the light that's the way to defeat you okay you're gonna turn hillary clinton to the? A little bit of kumbaya goes a long way. Anyway, to the point of Destiny, in many of these circumstances, you have these... As I was explaining with the Krasensteins... I'm triggered. I know, I know. As I explained with the Krasensteins... I've taught you nothing.

You've got... These individuals know they're lying. Destiny knows he's lying. About what? About most of his positions. Like, uh, there, he, he, he, he tries baiting me to, so I, we were talking on the show about why someone asked me if I would have him on the show after he gloated over the death of Corey Compitore. Sure. And I said, no, because we, anybody who gloats, any, anybody who intentionally breaks the rules of the social media platforms by glorifying, gloating or encouraging violence, harm and death would just get us banned.

I, I, I could not wrap my head around that. Destiny coming on the show would be an Insta ban for us. So it's not a question of, I said, I don't need personal beef. It's just if we brought him on the show so we could articulate his position and why he wanted to glorify the death of someone who was murdered by a psychopath youtube would just delete the episode it's crazy so then he starts making up lies lying about me and lying about my positions it's it's it's it's been a couple come a month or two so i can't remember the specific things he posted but uh one example i can give you is he says oh yeah well tim had laura loomer on and laura loomer called for the death penalty and i was like and we pulled that show off the air instantly, but he doesn't tell his audience

that. He says, why is Tim Poole having Laura Loomer, who says this? And then he doesn't clarify that actually we told her not to say those things, don't glorify death, even in that circumstance, and we pulled the show, because we don't, we say no to that. He might not have known that the show got pulled. He's done, of course he does.

And it doesn't matter to him anyway. When he was doing that episode, he played the clip that literally showed the episode getting pulled down. That was part of the commentary saying, why did Tim pull the episode? He's lying. These people are lying.

You don't spend your life on the internet reading all of the context and then going, oops, I made a mistake again. Oops, I made a mistake again. This is what I'm saying about David Pakman.

The example I always give is when he played a clip of Ted Cruz on Meet the Press and they asked Ted Cruz, do you really believe that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election to help Hillary Clinton win? And Ted Cruz responds under the effect of the New York Times reported it. And then you hear a producer start laughing and then David Pakman starts laughing and says something the effect of like, wow, how stupid is he to believe this there's no way david packman sourced the meet the press clip in and did not see politico and the new york times reporting it as fact he had to intentionally not read those stories so when i see him do something like that i'm like what because i've known i've

known packman for like 12 years or or we're going on yeah i can't know how 2008 i've been watching madam madam during like the occupy okay era like i don't know i remember when he had 700 subscribers on youtube so i i've i've wears a suit it's not like i'm friends with him or anything i've known him for a long time we've talked periodically we've been at different events and so i'm like there's no way when you google search this ukrainian thing and politico pops up and it says and i'm gonna pull it up because i always do ukraine, Politico, Ukraine. It's saved in this computer because of how often I pull this up. Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire.

January 11th, 2017. Donald Trump wasn't the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials from a former Soviet bloc. This is Kenneth P. Vogel and David Stern who reported this. This report was massive and ted cruz was like i saw in the news and then he runs a clip mocking ted cruz and i'm like he's he's intentionally lying anybody who reads the news for a living saw this story knew that ukraine did this paul manafort went to prison over it it was huge news and he pretends like he doesn't know these people are lying because that's why I show the graph of the Krasensteins.

And I gave him a 200 IQ because I'm nice when his IQ is either very high and he's completely dishonest. Or he's really stupid and genuinely believes what he's saying. But I don't believe for a second that somebody who reads the news all day is just... It would be like, imagine someone stretched a sheet of 20-inch thick Swiss cheese over the Grand Canyon, and they're covering their eyes and spinning across it and dancing and missing every single hole and falling to their death. Did you ever see when Jesse Lee Peterson, praise be unto him, had Pac-Man on his show and kicked him off? No. No, he kicked him off.

Why? Because he's like, you didn't come here to tell the truth. You're a liar. You're one of the children of the lie. Thank you for your time. Goodbye. Go find the clip. It's hilarious.

Jesse Lee Peterson kicks off David Pakman. What were they talking about at the time? He goes, is having military pay for transgender surgeries progress? And David was just kind of like, well, Jesse, you're for less spending, less money on health care. He goes, OK, thank you. He's like kind of dodging giving a direct answer to the question. I can't find it in the immediate.

I can only find the hour long. The reason I go. It'll be at the very end. You could just it's I'm telling you like you will see where he kicks him off. It's not hard to find. The reason I give these people benefits. It's really worth watching. I'm telling you for the audience.

It doesn't it doesn't come up when I search. I'll find it. I'll find out. The reason I'll give people benefit of the doubt often is because I'm like, all right. Depends on the person, though. Yeah, it does. And the situation and the time. And because I'm like, all right. It depends on the person though. Yeah, it does. And the situation and the time. Of course.

Because sometimes I will, sometimes I won't. Secretly, I'll have feelings and beliefs that I don't necessarily espouse publicly because I feel like as Americans, we're kind of on the same team whether we want to be or not. No, we're not. I don't always like my teammates. That is so crazy. But dude, there's a lot of people in the world that are really not on our team.

And there are a lot of people in our country that are really on our team. How can you not know this? At least we can communicate with them through English. Like, at least we can maybe bridge the gap. That is such a non sequitur. Michael, I have a question. Yeah. Are you voting for Trump?

I don't vote. You don't vote? You know I don't vote. I'm an anarchist. Yeah, but still. I mean, but. What do you mean? Part of that's unclear.

Yeah, I don't believe in voting. I believe in regimentation. So, I don't know. What do you think happens in November? What do you want to want to happen what do you think is going to happen what should happen i don't know about want because i don't think politics respect if politics represented my wants there would be a lot a lot more lampposts let's put it that way what does that mean you'll figure it out we don't want to get demonetized um i'm no laura loomer uh the point being i think he has in the bag you think he's being I think he has it in the bag

you think he's going to win? I think Trump has it in the bag and here's my reasoning because I think it's very important as far as possible to get your emotions out of political analysis

right and for me the best indicator of future behavior is past performance in 2020 she had her honeymoon period in her first debate

she came out Biden you're a racist. That little girl was me. Goes up in the polls. Tulsi comes along. Not only does she have not a response on the stage, Officer Harris, but then when Anderson Cooper, hardly some kind of alt-right freak, is like, what happened to the debate? She goes, well, I'm a top-tier candidate. And it's like, what?

That's your answer? And then she collapsed and was down to 1%. And she didn't even make it to Iowa. Here's the other thing. Let's suppose she is the perfect candidate and Trump is the worst candidate. I wouldn't wish on anyone to put together a presidential campaign in 100 days. That's not a thing. That's a nightmare.

Oh, right. So I think he has in the bag. Would you prefer Trump to win? I'm going to dodge the question, but I'm going to say – I'm going to kind of answer it. I am – and I talked to Brett Weinstein on my show this week. We discussed it at length. I am absolutely terrified of Tim Walz. Yes.

I think she has – I'll tell you in a second. I don't think she has much positions one way or another. She was a conservative. She ran as like this law and order prosecutor in San Francisco, whatever. And now she's trying to avoid it. As I said many times, and no one here disagrees, that what happened during the lockdowns gave a lot of very evil people some very useful information about what people put up with the government in terms of oppression. And they're cashing it in in the UK right now. And if Tim Walz had his druthers, we would have that UK system in America today. Has he done stuff in his state?

He said explicitly that hate speech is not free speech. Yeah. So I'm extremely, and I also think he's a sociopath. His wife said she opened the windows to smell the burning tires during the riots because it was like a symbol of the times, like history. Oh, such a virtue signal. That was so disturbing. Not a virtue signal. It's her, she liked it, celebrating the rampage and the destruction

because it suits her ideology. From the governor's mansion. From the governor's mansion. That's the weird, gross part about it. She's like, oh yes, everything's destroyed, but I'm actually in safety. She's not a business owner in the middle of Minneapolis that's having to later deal with the consequences of having her life ruined. I'm going to text you the link, Tim, okay? I think you're right.

Putting together... Well, send it on X. Okay. I think you're right, Michael. Having to put together a campaign in less than 100 hundred days or about a hundred days is crazy. And if you see that in the fact that Walt's keeps getting caught in these like false stories, right?

The, the stolen valor thing, this like, Oh yes, I have my children because of IVF, but actually it turns out they didn't use IVF at all. Uh, and you also see the fact that they're trying to make Kamala Harris cool by

relying on pop singers, which I find fascinating. What else do you want them to do? It's fun. Right? This is the thing. Like they need to like make it seem like she's already trendy. And that's why they're tapping into like Bratz Summer or like the Waltz Harris camo

hat. I saw that Chapel Rowan was like, is this real? Because it's a rip off of her merch. Like this is all they're doing. Like it's a fait accompli. And also, they know that every time she opens her mouth, disaster ensues.

Which is why she still has not done a major press conference. Do you blame her? I mean, it's a strategy for her, but we are hearing from her from the stage, which is basically to say at a distance. They're not letting a journalist, even though journalists are sympathetic to her, get closer.

They tried this with Hillary before and it didn't work for them either. This is why I call you Gandalf. You can fast forward to when he kicks him off. Because you won't get into the political. You're like,

I'm an anarchist. I can't touch the one ring. I can't. I can only observe, but I can witness and explain it all. I don't agree with that. Let me see the other point of view.

I think, and I don't think you guys here would disagree. I think the MAGA people disagree. I don't think if Trump becomes president, everything's going to be all roses. Sure, I agree. I think the backlash is going to be insane.

I think they're already normalizing violence against political figures and against citizens. So I think people who think he's going to come in and they're going to sit on their hands, we're up against some very, very malevolent people who've been at this game for a long time and would have nothing to lose. And it's very scary. I'm heartened, one thing, though.

I'm giddy at the idea that RFK, who I do think is a sociopath, would be in charge of the CIA. That I would be giddy about. I am not a revolutionary. I'm a reformer. And I don't understand the worldview of Tim Walz is communist China level psychotic. But I won't be involved in any way. I don't understand that. You don't think I'm involved? Well, I think you're involved, but it's like the voting.

I don't think the voting is a good. I don't think my vote's going to matter. And I think I've. Then why not just do it? like the voting. I don't think the voting is a good, I don't think my vote's going to matter. And I think I've- Then why not just do it? Vote for Trump. Because there's a lot, I don't think it's a good use of my time. And I don't believe Trump, I don't believe Trump represents me. Trump does not speak for me.

Yeah, I don't think he represents me very well. Voting means he is representing you quite literally. Sure. So I don't think Trump represents me. He does not. I look at it more of as a mathematical equation though. So by all means, you know, don't vote. I don't think Trump represents me. He does not. I look at it more of as a mathematical equation, though. So by all means, you know, don't vote. I don't know. But my view is I don't like the Republicans. I think I've said it quite a bit, especially over the past eight years.

Trump is of a certain character that I understand why people don't like like the character that he brings to the White House. They wanted the suit wearing noble commander in chief. That being said, no new wars, timeline for withdrawal. I see a net positive presidency in Trump. I mean, he's a funny guy. And so the simple net positive, the math there is, I'll vote for him. I would rather have, I don't want the guy in the suit, the nice guy in the suit,

because that guy, nice guy in a suit can pull off convincing moms that it's a good idea to kill their sons because he's respectable. He's on a pedestal. Whereas if you have a president who's regarded as more of a buffoon, as both in their ways, Trump and Biden were, it's a lot harder to sell World War Three. Is that right? By wearing a suit, you can sell it to the mothers that didn't go to war? I think when you have an air of dignity and heft and seriousness, and you're like, we need to go to war, a lot of people will be like, we're raised.

Like, okay, this is our time. I have to be a patriot and I have to kill my kids. You're in Texas. Yeah. And, you know, as you mentioned, Ted Cruz only won by a couple points. So isn't it, if it doesn't matter one way or the other, why not just vote? I didn't say it doesn't matter one way or the other.

I don't think it's a good use of my time, and I don't believe in it. That's the whole—the same reason I go to church. I think church is a good thing. I think it's a very good thing when people find God or Christ and accept morality into their lives, but I don't believe in it. So is that to say you don't think it would have any impact whatsoever? It's both. It's both. I don't believe in it, and I'm opposed to it.

And also there's no way my vote's going to be of any significance. I can certainly agree with you if you think it's not going to matter anyway. If we make the argument Texas is not at risk at all, what does it matter? Fine, whatever. But I certainly think there's significance and there's an important function to it. What's an important function to it sometimes an important function to voting but i there's so many better things i could do with my time to make the world a better place five minutes yeah you're talking about a couple minutes sometimes a couple minutes

yes applying pressure in one place actually creates more resistance than if you didn't apply any pressure at all so like certain people might be better off not getting involved because of the way they're able to influence society outside of that paradigm. And you might be one of those people. I mean, you're, you're like almost like a brilliant social scientist. If you get too political, then the people that you talk to across the aisle might not want to be as involved. Let me say one thing. Here's how I influence politics. I donated money to two candidates and that to me is more important and more efficacious than voting. I donated to Biden in the primary because I wanted him to be the nominee.

And boy, did I have a return on that. Nice. And I also donated to John Fetterman. Nice. I know how to pick winners. Let me ask you. Do you think Dave Smith will vote for Donald Trump? No.

Do you think Joe Rogan will vote for Donald Trump? I don't know if Joe votes. But I think if RFK drops out, I think after what the COVID regime did to Joe, I think he would prefer—I can't speak for him. Well, he did say twice he would vote for Trump over Biden. Oh, that's the answer. Okay. He then said recently that RFK Jr. makes the most sense, but it's not an endorsement. If RFK tomorrow, as we expect him to, drops out and endorses Trump, I think just listening to what Joe talks about, he's a smart guy. He often said explicitly, he said explicitly, there's your answer. But that doesn't mean he's voting.

Correct. He might just abstain. Correct. I think the reason he doesn't publicly state in his show that he's going to be voting for Trump is because he doesn't want to create the political tension for his show. I also doubt he votes. He does much more useful things toward moving the needle than— I completely agree. That's why I've been screaming about these Trump supporters who have attacked him as often.

You and I were on the same team with that. With Cat Turd, it's like, guys— And Trump himself, he posted on Truth that he's going to get booed the next time he goes to UFC. I'm like, dude, this guy is pushing voters in the wrong direction. What's even funnier is like Monday, Joe says, you know, RFK makes a lot of sense. Tuesday, Trump's like, F you, Joe. They're going to boo you at the UFC. Friday, I'm going to have RFC run the CIA.

He's going to say that tomorrow. It's just like ridiculous. Do you think it's CIA for sure? Junior put it out there. I think that's what RFK would want. Yeah. And I can't think of anyone better. I think he's what RFK would want. Yeah. And I can't think of anyone better. I think he should be

on the human services. What's that? I think RFK should run health and human services. Okay, I think you're thinking too short term because yes, he'd be better in that

maybe in terms of helping people, but in terms of deconstructing the nightmare, you want him to open all the file cabinets. I agree with Anna Claire because that's sort of the one plus one equals two. Like here's his passions. Here's with Anna Claire because that's sort of the one plus

one equals two. Like here's his passions. Here's what he does. That's not always true. Did you watch Rogan? For what? No, no, no. Who was that guy? Oh, what I'm saying is RFK Jr. is a very clearly passionate about environmental toxins and chronic illnesses. And so his passions fit here. However, the poetic justice is head of the CIA. Yes. I think there are a lot of people who would want to go through a filing cabinet. So hopefully there's a good bench of selections there. I really, really hope, even though we, I can't even talk about this. Never mind.

I'm going to abort this right now. We'll talk about the after show. I honestly, we have to make a choice on the after show or watching Kamala speak. Or I got a better idea. I figured it out. We're going to watch Kamala speak on the after show or watching Kamala speak. Or I got a better idea. I figured it out. We're going to watch Kamala speak on the after show so we can say naughty things. Yes. Oh, that's a great idea.

Can you fast forward to when he kicks Pac-Man off? It's really a good moment. All right. So, okay. So we have this clip of Jesse Lee Peterson and David Pac-Man. Is it here? You'll be able to see it. You can see very clearly where the, just fast forward it.

You can skim it. I love these. Our only worth is for a vote. I want to give it a little bit of I want to go on Jesse's show. Here we go. You are a progressive. What does it mean to be a progressive? What is that? It's for progress and against stagnation and a return to values that are outdated and irrelevant in modern society and what type of progress give me an example of progress the reduction in incredibly damaging economic inequality the push for a basic level of health care for everybody, regardless of ability to pay, a push for an

economy that is not going to allow the richest to become endlessly richer while the poor continue to be poor. I mean, there's a long list. I mean, I think, you know, the problem is that there's a lot. I'm not a Democrat, by the way. I've never been a Democrat. So if the idea is to get me to progressive. So I'm asking about that. So let me ask... I didn't even finish answering the question. How long do we have? Because this is a very weird interview. We didn't even... I was trying to get you to tell me exactly what Trump had done to achieve those so-called achievements. And you moved on to the Democratic Party. It's a very strange interview. I've never experienced anything like it.

Well, that's the first time in life for everything. No change in affect. So-called sex reassignment surgery. And our tax dollars are paying for it, even though we don't agree with that at all. We being who? The conservative Christian people of this country. Well, that's just a fraction of the population, right? Is that progress? When men are confused about their gender and women are confused about theirs and now we're paying for it, is that progress?

Are you a fiscal conservative, Jesse? Answer that question, David. Is that progress? Well, are you a fiscal conservative? David, question, David. Is that progress? Well, are you a fiscal conservative? David, answer that question. Are you, is that progress? It's not an example of something that is or isn't progress. But the reason I'm asking whether you're a fiscal conservative is it's cheaper, it's

cheaper to pay for those procedures than to discharge, to find and discharge every transgender member of the military. So if you're a fiscal conservative, and I've heard you say that you are, you should favor the cheaper option, which is paying for those procedures and not paying for what it would cost to find and discharge all those transgender military members. David, you're not here to communicate. I really appreciate you coming on. I'm going to let you go. It's a waste of time to talk to you. You're not communicating. You're acting like an idiot. No really appreciate you coming on. I'm going to let you go. It's a waste of time to talk to you. You're not communicating. You're acting like an idiot. Because you're asking bizarre questions.

You're acting like an idiot and you're wasting my time. I appreciate you coming. Alright, thank you for coming. Goodbye. Hold on, leave it on. Let him go. That's a progressive, folks. All men who are progressive or males who are progressive are weak people.

Nice. They are weak people. And why have these people on? It doesn't even make sense. They don't come to communicate because they are too insecure. And David Pakman is a very insecure progressive. Real men are not progressive. I'm progressive. Real men are not progressive. I'm progressive.

Whatever they are. Yeah, so I love Jesse. You haven't had him on, have you? Oh, he'd be so good. He's so funny. I see they don't progress. I think he's asked me to go on his show, but I rarely go on anyone else's.

Why wouldn't you want him on your show? I didn't say that. Oh, okay. Oh, Michaelael um a culture war is probably a better fit he's unpredictable that's that's one of the things for a late night like stick by but he's he's on youtube so he obviously knows the rules of the game he's very predictable you never see him break so so what david peckman did there is is sophistry it's plain and simple yes ask a question about is this progress and then he he deflects to fiscal conservatives should support this because it saves money. That's what?

Okay. So like throwing a body into the ocean saves money on funeral costs. We're not for that. Like we want property as waste disposal. What are you talking about? Progress is you can move. That means move forward. You can progress off the edge of a cliff.

You can progress into a fire and burn to death. You don't always want to move forward for the sake of moving. Sometimes you want to regress and go backwards because backwards is where it's safer. Or turn around and progress in a different direction. So that's the whole thing with progression for the sake of it. What does it mean to turn?

Is it transgress? Yeah, I guess. To move sideways? Yeah, that's transgress. Sometimes we want to sidestep whatever's in front of us because it might be like either, maybe it's a transgress. Sometimes we want to sidestep whatever's in front of us, because it might be like either maybe it's a pit trip, and you're going to walk into it.

Exactly. You don't want to progress into a trap. So that's the problem with people that claim, I am a progressive, and I will always move us forward. If you're moving forward into the wrong thing, you're doing the wrong thing. Get out of that mindset. So this is the main issue for us, especially,

is there's a small handful of people that are willing to come on the show and they're all the grifters. I'm not talking about you. The people – Why did you look at my direction? I'm talking to you. You're the guest. You've got a mullet, man, and it looks gorgeous from here. Anarchists, libertarians, and conservatives, easy to book.

They will come on and they will say yes, no, maybe, I don't know, let's argue. Liberals are like, uh-oh, if I actually come on and they pull up sources, I'm screwed. The best example, and I will always give him the credit, shout out to Hunter Avalon, who came on this show and we were talking and I said, Joe Biden said, if you don't find the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollars. And he smugly goes, that never happened. And I said, yes, it did. Here's the video. And I played it. And he was just like, like he had no idea.

Sure. Most of these people like Pac-Man and even probably now Kalinsky, who's like taking a turn. I don't know what his deal is. These liberal guys are just like, if I go on the show, I know what happens. They're going to pull up the sources. And then what do I say? I don't think that's it at all, Tim. I don't think they think – some of them.

But I think for some of them, it's also like – it's like me going to a mosque. It's like this isn't my house. Like I don't belong there. And I think – you remember how during 2020 when Marianne Williamson was supposed to go on Rubin Report? And he's hardly a hardball. He's a softball. That's his thing. I do that same thing.

I want my guests to feel comfortable. She bowed out. And she bowed out. You see what happened when she came on this show? What? Was there more drama? He's not. He's the supple. That's his thing. I do that same thing. I don't I want my guests to be comfortable about that. And she bowed out. You see what happened when she came on this show? What? What? Was there more drama? She nearly cried when we showed her the whiteness contract from that children's book. And I got her to inadvertently argue that Derek Chauvin should should have never been convicted and really and should be released from prison. Oh, wow. And then she immediately backtracked and said, no, this is why they don't come on the show. Mary Williamson comes on and she says Republicans want to ban books. And I go, what, this one?

And it's the white it's the white handed devil saying the whiteness contract will kill your friends. And she almost she's she was welling up in tears, covering her face, saying, what is this? She had no idea. Then I showed her the graphic book. Oh, she doesn't want to look at it. She can't look at the books they're giving kids because they're shocking and offensive. And then I asked her if a person couldn't get a fair trial, should they go to prison? She says, no, of course not.

So I said, if there was a person who was accused of murder and he's in a state, but the judge said, there is no way you'll receive a trial in this state without someone knowing and being biased, should this person be put in trial? And she goes, no, of course not. And I went, like Derek Chauvin.

And she went, oh my God. And then after the show was over, she was like, this is why I can't come on shows like this. Something to that effect. She goes, because you like, this is why I can't come on shows like this. Somebody said that effect. She goes, because you ask these questions and the TVs don't do this. But the thing is,

those aren't even gotcha questions. No, it's real conversation. That's right. Like think with those books, like that to me is the most egregious evil gaslighting because we've been back five years ago and I'm like, you know,

I know you kind of are conservative in your morals, but five years from now, they're going to be showing like pornography to kids, I know you kind of are conservative in your morals, but five years from now, they're going to be showing like pornography to kids and then telling you it's not happening. It's like, why would they do that? So disprovable. And here we are. They said this. In 2000, it's, I mean, the gaslighting is incessant. In 2008, the argument against gay marriage was, I think it was 2008 when they were doing, was it Proposition 8 or whatever in California? The argument was it will lead to schools teaching

children about gay sex. And the left was like, oh, shut up. And I remember all my friends being like, dude, we're talking about two people just having a private life. They're not gonna be in your schools. But the conservatives were correct. They weren't arguing that arbitrarily they just start saying we're going to bring, you know, gay sex into schools. They were saying if you have two adult men who are married and he's a teacher, the children are going to be exposed to this and they're going to have questions about why his husband is showing up and who is that because teachers, spouses may show up and pick them up for a ride or something. And it will result in the school making the argument. Literally where we are now is that Democrats are making the argument that they have to teach children about gay sex. And I'm not even talking about like love I'm literally these books one of the books it's called

um what's the we don't have a minute to move the one that explains scat to children to the sketch oh yes it explains it to children and I said can I say once it's in the school libraries in the curriculum can I say one sentence because I know there's one where they were talking about oral I there was the one clip I bring this up all the time, when there's a Canadian reporter and he went back to North Korea. And North Koreans talk to the guides as always too, because they watch each other. And they're at the Oster Tranche. There's an Oster Tranche outside Pyongyang. And the reporter goes to the, his guide is like an older man, his 50s, I'd say roughly.

And he goes, last time I was here, I asked you about gays and lesbians. And he goes, yeah, you guys said we don't have that here. And he well what about bisexuals and this old north korean just goes what so i like i was already at the point where like okay they're just showing like oral and and now you're like i i thought i caught up so my god these the the argument the argument is children need to learn about this because the teachers are gay. And so they're a part of society and kids are going to see it. So now and the conservatives are completely correct about what this was going to lead to. And in the book, it's got a glossary of terms. And one of them explains that some people for gratification will eat human waste.

And it doesn't it doesn't say don't do this. It doesn't say this is dangerous. It doesn't say like there's no reason a child should be learning is dangerous. It doesn't say, like, there's no reason a child should be learning these things. But this book is, what was the name of that book? Trying to look it up. Is that the one about the girl who... No, no, no, no. That one's about the

genderqueer book. Yeah, genderqueer. We should get those books back out. That's the one where she talks about how she was severely abused by her parents and made to defecate outside. And then they made her wear a used pad over and over again. And she smelled so bad that the counselors brought her in and scolded her for not taking care of her hygiene. And she and this is clearly not in the book, but anybody who reads it, who has any kind of logic understands this poor young woman in this book, Genderqueer, was made to do her business

outside by her parents. When she went to school and was going through puberty, they gave her used dirty old pads. She draws pictures of them. She writes in the book how she smelled so bad, the counselor brought her in and scolded her and said, you need to do something about this. And she was embarrassed. Clearly what happens then is when she's hairy, she's unshaven, and the other girls are like, you're gross and you smell bad. She says, I wish I could be a boy because the boys don't get insulted by the other girls for being stinky and hairy. So she internalizes this abuse from her parents that didn't properly teach her how to function in society and then says, if only I was a boy, then I could escape from this.

And then she seeks out to get a sex change. And this is what they're giving to kids to explain why these people believe these things and feel this way without actually telling the children, if your parents are making you wear three-day-old crusted pads and you smell bad, you are being abused and you need help. But that's the book they're giving to kids.

Ian, how are you going to sit down and give these people the benefit of the doubt? I'll tell you exactly this is what I'm thinking about because I think when people self-identify, when they put themselves in a mental cage by saying, I am a progressive. I am an anarchist. I am a Democrat. I am a Republican.

That they've basically, they're living in a sort of mental fear where they're like protecting themselves with this idea of what they think they are. And so these people are vulnerable because that's why they're identifying themselves as a protective field. So if they feel like you're not on their side, they're going to have a fear of you. You think Michael is claiming to be an anarchist because he's afraid? I think it protects him from having to explain why he's not voting. So for instance, exactly. It's a thing, like if you're truly an anarchist, you wouldn't label yourself at all. There would be no rules. Anarchism means private rules. It doesn't mean chaos.

But literally means without authority. Yes. Yeah, you wouldn't need to label yourself. Anarchists play Monopoly and you get the same amount of money at the beginning and so on and so forth. I play chess. I identify with that. I identify with your way of thinking quite a bit. But I think that labeling yourself...

I don't know what you think my way of thinking is, though. That authorities can become very dangerous very quickly. Authorities are illegitimate. Well, I mean, there's the authority in this room and because of it, we have a legitimate... I can leave this room whenever I want. Yeah, but we have a cool show going on because we have some...

Authorities are not illegitimate. So I had this conversation with the Occupy people over and over again because they made the same argument. We're anarchists. Authority is illegitimate. is so i had this conversation with the occupy people over and over again because they made the same argument we're anarchists authority is illegitimate i say no a cop telling you that's a frozen zone is illegitimate that's what they were doing in new york what do you mean by frozen zone the police made this term up where they said we have frozen this street okay that means you can't walk there anymore okay and we're like shut up right nothing i've never even heard that however let me ask you this if you were standing on the sidewalk

by yourself and an old man walked by and then grasped his chest and fell down and a doctor ran up and said, this man's going to die. You, sir, come over here and start doing compressions. Would you say no? I would do it. You would do it? Yes. That's real authority. It's not authority in the sense that if I don't do it, I'm not going to have consequences legally.

That's not what authority is. That is what authority is. Okay, we're going to be talking past each other. I'm going to save us a lot of time. I do what my doctor tells me. That is what authority is. Okay, we're going to be talking past each other. I'm going to save us a lot of time. I do what my doctor tells me. I do what my lawyer tells me. I do what my accountant tells me. Those are instances where I defer to other authorities. What I'm saying is authority that's not chosen, that's imposed, whether by fiat, democratic vote, or aristocracy is not legitimate. And this is the point I'm making. So when you say authority is illegitimate, we need to clarify and let people understand.

We, every day in our lives, recognize the true authority, a person that we reasonably believe to be a doctor. And we make a guess in this. A guy's wearing a lab coat with a stethoscope and he's in scrubs. He might not be. He could be a burglar trying to or a robber trying to steal the guy's wallet from me now. But no, he's probably a doctor. And when he says this man's going to die unless you do this now, we say, yes, sir. Because if he's not an estethoscope, if someone, if I will. Right. Yeah, like a friend. Sometimes a friend can be your author.

They can just give you some advice and you're like, thank you. And thank you for helping the author. In all these situations, there's the freedom of exit. Authority is, do you follow orders? Does this person have reason? Some authorship in my perception of reality. Yeah. Are they helping me write my reality?

No, it's do you follow their lead so exactly so let me finish the your question the the people that are in this realm of self-identifying is i am a this which a lot of these people in our work are because of the politics they have a sort of reticence to engage they're afraid of identifying with the other. So I feel like if you don't identify, it's much easier to get along with people like that. Also, if like the reason why people that consider themselves conservatives are more willing to identify with other people that consider themselves conservatives is because they're not afraid. They're less afraid of what they're familiar with. So I try and dispense with self-identification and cults and groups. I never liked being in the in-group. I always wanted to.

Don't worry about that, Ian. That's not a concern. With YouTube videos, it's very easy to become a cult leader. So I just. Look, Ian doesn't like labels. You can't make him label himself. He's not going to commit to anything. I don't know. He likes Moon Lord. Words are

labels. We're using labels right now to communicate with the English language. I understand the value of labels and that you need them sometimes. But when it's coming to like the survival of our species, I feel like sometimes you got to step back from that stuff and like like hitting Pac-Man on being progressive like that's going to push him away.

Good. What? If you just be like, like well you're a progressive and he's progressive yeah if you were to hit if you were to go with someone because of their identification it'll it'll push him away if you wanted to learn progressive things wouldn't you want someone who identifies as progressive to explain it to you and and all jesse did was say you're a progressive you're a progressive and he and so david says i'm a progressive he goes okay so you're progressive what does that mean and then david said i'm not a democrat jesse i'm progressive volunteer day and then and then he said what does that mean what does it mean what does it mean to be a progressive and then david gave him an answer and then he kind of he did he kind of baffled

he was like aren't you a fiscal conservative and yeah david refused to answer a very simple question because he was like on edge and so so this is an important uh point in in in the culture war in the political war conservatives can and many libertarians make the mistake of thinking life is principles that their worldview is principles that laws principles they're completely wrong it's morals built upon their their their worldview and principles are not material for the most part to these people to to anybody. And so what happens is the people on the right say, I'm for free speech. And then the left says, oh, yeah, then let me show this book to children that has these images in it. The right then says, that's not what we're talking about.

Well, hold on. You're setting a moral limit on where you think some things should not or shouldn't be shared. So there's free speech absolutism. And then there's no, no no what i mean by free speech is expressing your political opinion safely without fear of consequence not showing children graphic content the left exploits the concept of principles because a lot of conservatives don't understand the the point of moral lines so the example that i always use is my body my choice the left says my body my choice you can't force me to do this unless it's vaccines. Yeah. The argument is, should government intervene in medical care has two

has different moral lines. You can argue that I am of the belief my principles are people make their choices over their own medical care and the government shouldn't intervene. OK, so if a doctor then prescribes to a parent that their child get a sex change the government shouldn't intervene whoa whoa whoa no conservatives then say absolutely the government should stop that liberals have the inverse worldview if a child is transgender and the doctor is refusing should the government intervene or the parents are refusing the doctor's orders should the government intervene to give the child the sex change liberals say yes there's no principle that fits this it's not just a simple logic of one plus one

equals two. It's what is your moral worldview and what do you accept or not accept? Yeah. And I want to blend these people's worldviews, people that you disagree with. That's where I'm at with like turning someone from the dark to the light is rather than self-identify as the other from them. I want to kind of become one with their consciousness and then take them with me on a ride of belief, like change their understanding because I do think I have good morals. Okay, there's only one way to actually change people and it's not sitting down having a conversation

and thinking you're being nice to them. It's what Mao said. Oh, I don't care about being nice. You have like 15 years to do it. It's not even there. The means by which people's worldviews change is through isolating them and surrounding them by people of a particular worldview. Or traumatic incident. Traumatic incidents.

If you want to make someone pro 2A, when they find themselves in the middle of the woods being attacked by bears, they might all of a sudden wish they had a gun on them. And then they're like, but guns are banned in this state. There's actually a line about a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged and a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested. Chloe Cole just interviewed this detransitioner who said she was in Israel during the war, during the attacks. And it was in that moment of the bombings that she realized, if I'd gotten the surgery, I wouldn't be able to get up and run to safety right now. What am I doing with my life? And detransitioned after that. Well, so anyway, if you want to change someone's mind, meeting them and entertaining their fallacies is them attempting to change your mind. Two people meeting, you're not going to

change their worldview. When we have, there's a reason why they won't come on the show. Conservatives have no problem because they are firm in their worldviews. They... There's another thing, though. Conservatives have to be aware of liberal arguments because the corporate press is so overwhelmingly left, whereas you can very easily live in a world where you're never hearing right-of-center arguments. Yes. Conservatives... This is the tendency. It's kind of like a shock of cold water to a lot of people to hear the truth, to hear the information. And there's so much stigma about right-of-center views that it's right... As soon as you say this, oh, you're a Nazi. And look, I don't want to hear anything. You're a Nazi. Fine. That's right. Michael, did you see the tweet from I think it's a Catherine Brodsky where she says she posted Elon saying, you know, Twitter needs to be neutral

and says, I had a dream that we have this utopia, but I was wrong. Like, I wish this is what Twitter was going to be. The issue is for a lot of these liberals, they assumed that this country is balanced between left and right and that if you remove the censorship on X, you would have the left and the right equally arguing. What did we discover? The left and right is completely imbalanced. This country is conservative. It's right leaning in various ways. It's libertarian to conservative with very little liberal.

When liberals are exposed to the truth, they go, oh, OK. And that's it. So why am I voting for Donald Trump? It's not because I'm a conservative. I'm certainly not. I hold traditionally liberal American Democrat views from the 90s and 2000s. And the Democratic Party has gone completely psychotic. So I'm now either post-liberal, disaffected liberal, but I'm certainly not a conservative. And conservatives can identify that. But when I read the news and I know what's true, I can say, yeah, Joe Biden offered a quid pro quo. Fire the prosecutor. You're not getting a billion dollars.

He had no authority to do it. His son was on the board of this company. The prosecutor was investigating that company. It was putting his son at risk and his son asked the State Department for help. That's true. But if you go to the average member, if you go to the DNC right now and ask, they're going to say you're lying. That's not true. They have to be kept away from the truth to maintain that voting pattern. And we also agree that you would much, all of us would much, I know like people don't like having two negative choices. Why don't you give me a good third choice? Okay.

Two negative choices. Wouldn't you rather have someone who's just a crook that you disagree with, like Joe Biden, than someone who's an ideologue like Tim Waltz? Oh yeah. Okay. Yes. A hundred percent. We do got to go to Super Chats, though.

So smash the like button, subscribe to this channel. Oh, G940. Share the show with all your friends if you do like it. The first Super Chat I'm going to read is actually really simple. Dahwan Moten says, how do I access the membership show? Go to timcast.com right now. Click join us, sign up, become a member, $10 a month. And then at 10 o'clock, we're going to have the members

only show on the front page of the site. It'll say member call in. It'll have my face and Michael Malice's pig nose face up there. And that's how you'll find it. But that's in twenty minutes. In the meantime, we'll read your super chats. But that's how you can find it. And let's go. Harry Lawrence says first. Congratulations.

Hi, Larry. Token Black Guy says Howdy, people. I want to show some love to my boy, Raymond G. His ex posts keep me entertained at work. Holla at your boy, Ray Ray. Thank you, Token Black Eye. Rock and roll. He makes the best clips.

Go America. Oh, yeah, I clip this show a lot. Maybe Hyperbolic. Yeah. But he makes really, really great clips. They work. All right. Just Cause I'm Free says, so now it's known the Democrats are using

lawfare, infiltration, and sabotage against RFK Jr., Jill Stein and Trump. Just wondering what what are the consequences of all this? Also, malice for press secretary. I mean, amen. Why wouldn't they do it? There's no consequence. I was going to say there are no consequences. Why shouldn't they do it? Other than I mean, you know, Nicole Shanahan coming out and saying like this is something that's happening may make some people more aware of it, which may decrease trust slightly. But long term, there are no consequences. Remember when it was a Don of Brazil was caught emailing Hillary Clinton the questions that they're going to have in the debate. It wasn't debate. It was a town hall.

In the town hall. Yes, that's a very big difference. But yes, but still, yeah. So like the prearranged media thing where we're supposed to have this face up. The worst example. I'm sorry to cut you off. The worst example of this was when Hillary was running for Senate in 2000 in New York State, and she went on Letterman.

And the big issue is like, lady, you have nothing to do with New York. Like, how are you running for New York Senate? And he asked her, what's the state bird? What's the national? What's the state? What's the state slogan? And she's like, oh, I think it's this. It was all scripted.

They admit it later. She knew all those questions were coming. It was completely staged. And she intentionally got them wrong. That is much worse than don brazil thing what you intentionally got him wrong she got him all right uh because she was prepared because she had to argue that she was actually had any kind of tie to the state i think this is this is one of the issues for the dnc though like don brazil's out now she still you know shows up occasionally as a media pundit for uh the democratic arm of of american politics and that's kind of it. There's not long-term consequences. What about the 51 intelligence agents?

What's that? With the 100-bottom laptop. Former intelligence agents. Yeah. None of them had any consequences. They're still hired, and they keep licking their brains. These reporters are like, oh, you made me look so bad. How dare you? They don't care. Well, they get away with everything they want to do. Can't wait to find out HCB flipped and is

now supporting Kamala because Taylor Swift was at the DNC. Is that true? Taylor Swift is not at the DNC. Are you a Swifty? It's Pink. Can I dabble? Look at me.

Even Phil is, bro. Look at me. Of course I've listened to Taylor Swift. Pink's not performing right now. She was a second ago. Was she really? Yeah.

For a second, I was like, man, Pink has sure let herself go. Yeah. Yikes. She was a second ago. She's not on keto.

That's Markelly, right? No, no. That's Pink. I have to dabble. She's like the pop star of my growing up. You want to be basic? Be basic. I can't help it.

It's just the way I'm genetically coded. You can't help who you are. All right. Chris Washburn says, y'all are crazy. The mint chocolate is straight fire. So we have these sports drinks. They're called Pneuma. You want one?

I hate mint chocolate. I hate mint chocolate as well. You hate it. Really? Absolutely. Yes. They're not friends. Everyone we have these sports drinks. They're called Pneuma. I hate mint chocolate. I hate mint chocolate as well. You hate it. Really? Absolutely. Yes, they're not friends. Everyone says that as a psychopath. They don't really go that good together.

It's a vegetable oil. What are you doing? What if it's like actual cacao and mint leaf? No, get out of here. Is that good? Get out of here. He's not joking. I'll break this bottle.

What are you drinking Dr. Pepper Zero for anyway? This is my main method of hydration. I'll make it work. I'm an anarchist. So anyway, they've got mango. It's delicious. Lemonade. They've got watermelon lime. They've got peach blueberry. They're all so delicious. And then they have chocolate mint. And Raymond says

everybody hates it. Yeah. It's the only one left in the refrigerator. But the people who like it really like it. Sure. Sure. Like two. Like two people. Maybe one. Mint chocolate chip ice cream, you can admit. It's disgusting. I like the ice cream. I could dig the ice cream.

And you know, if I'm being honest, I tried one of these not too long ago, and it wasn't terrible. You're terrible. All right, let's grab some more. Thank you, Michael Malice. You're welcome. We got MTW says, Brian Krasenstein is definitely well off. Dude lives in a multi-million dollar house on the water in Florida.

He preys on low information people of the DNC cult for wealth and fame. Well, they have multiple businesses too. Look, I respect their hustle. I don't think they're trying to pretend they're not pretending to be anything other than that. Same like that Harry Stisson kid. He's a propagandist. Let him do his thing. There's no pretense to the contrary.

My point is just they're intentionally lying to people. Sure, sure. Absolutely, yes. Just so everyone knows that they're propagandists, we're fine. I love you, Brian. There's plenty of Republicans, people like that as well. Oh, forget about it. I can name, I can, never mind. Of course, come on.

Let's grab, let's grab, Dylan Binkley says Montana is going to flip blue as a Montanan. That's a crazy story, bro. Maybe Bozeman. There is a lot of blue movement, I think, especially during COVID. On the East Coast, we saw a lot of migration to Florida and other places. And there are, you know, some of them were conservatives who were leaving the state, but there were, you know, Democrats or likely Democrats who moved, too. And I think you did see that from the West Coast, especially people leaving California. But generally, I think Montana will stay pretty red.

He's up by 20 or something. Trump in the latest polls. Matt Burkhart says 269-269 ties. Trump winning all swing states, but Dems winning all of Texas, all of Maine, and the three independent districts of Nebraska. I think there's several ways to get us there.

There's a swing state path as well, but I think all of them involve Maine or Nebraska having one of those independent districts flip. It's going to be the Trump-Harris administration. That's what we all mean. Oh, because the Senate has to go one way, Senate the other. The House votes for the president.

The Senate votes for the vice president. That would be insane. Wow. But then again, isn't the Senate down now because of Menendez? Or who – is he out? He got charged. So he's resigned, right? Okay.

He resigned, but he hasn't left office yet. He was like resigning in like, it was bizarre. I'll look. He'll do it in 2040. I mean, it's 49, 50. Yeah. And then it's going to be Trump Vance. The Republicans will vote for Vance.

Yes. Yeah. It's yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. I don't know. Well, we'll see. Let's grab some more. Let's see what we go ahead. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see. Let's grab some more.

Let's see what we got here. Also, I'll just add this. I don't know if Kamala's going to be speaking by 10 because they still got Gretchen Whitmer and Adam Kinzinger. Two horrible people.

Oh, they still haven't gotten? It says speaking tonight, Gretchen Whitmer, Adam Kinzinger, Kamala Harris. Is this live, though? Maybe you're watching an old... No, this is 846. Yeah, it's right there.

846. 946. Yeah, okay. You're kidding. Yeah, same thing. I'm sorry,. 946, yeah. Okay, you weren't kidding. Yeah, same thing. I'm sorry, but this is what we're talking about, getting a campaign together in like 70 days. Yeah. It's like, you want her...

I don't think this is on purpose, they're keeping her out of primetime. I think this is their screwing up. Benitez officially, his resignation became official yesterday. Oh, wow, okay. So he's out? Yeah, he's out, and I'm trying to see what happens to his seat all right blackout says am i racist is just one big site to prove clark kent's disguise was reasonable yeah you remember that meme about the picture of clark of uh christopher reeves clark

kent he goes i want a disguise that no one could confuse with the hero who never lies oh yeah well the thing about clark kent people don't realize realize is, clearly because they're not fans of DC, Superman's disguise was never just putting on glasses. In the movies, they actually do a good job of helping to explain this. And actually, I can't remember, it might have been Justice League cartoons, Clark Kent is low-T. Yes. So he's like nervous and shaky and he gets pushed around all the time. He's a liberal.

And it's also not at all clear in the comics to the masses that Superman has a secret identity. Right. So there's one, I was actually watching Justice League a little while ago and it's like Clark Kent is getting beat up by like Luther's guys or something and he's begging for,

please leave me alone and he's all messed up and he's shaking. And then as soon as they leave, he rips his clothes off and then he's Superman. And in the movies, I think what they did was he's hunched over and he's like, well, you know. And then there's a scene where he takes his glasses off and then he rises up right.

And then it's a completely different person. But I mean, people. Listen, if you saw a guy in a wheelchair who can only move his head, you wouldn't think he's Superman either. It's, it's, it, look, if... You know what I hear all the time? Take off that beanie.

Did anyone ever tell you you look like Tim Pool? This is what people, no one ever, most of the time, people aren't coming up to me and going like, yo, Tim Pool, big fan. It does happen. Usually they'll go, did anyone ever tell you you look like Tim Pool?

Tim, that's my line. When I meet celebrities, or I used to, I fan. It does happen. Usually they'll go, did anyone ever tell you you look like Tim Pool? Tim, that's my line. When I meet celebrities, or I used to, I did this to Molly Shannon. I saw her at a party. I didn't know how to, oh my God, I go, hey, you look like Molly Shannon.

She goes, that's me. She was very nice. She was very nice. That's me. So that's a great line for people to use. And by the way, if people come up to me, and this happened to me recently.

I was at the airport, and I was at the part where you have your id and the boarding pass and there's like three of them huddled and the guy goes oh hey you know i love you i love your work and the lady turns to her co-worker she goes who's he i go oh i'm the guy who shot a pulse and the guy laughs and they let me through i always say that i'm the guy like i recognize you yeah i'm the guy who shot a pulse. The point I'm trying to make is... I'll do it again. I was... What? I was sitting at a subway,

and there was... It was Glenn Howerton and Caitlin... What's her name? Jenner? No. What? Glenn Howerton is from... It's always something to tell if you're in.

Caitlin... Oh, she plays the girl. Right. Is her name Caitlin? It is Caitlin Olsen. Is it Olsen? Yeah, it is Caitlin Olsen. Is it Olsen? Yeah, it is Caitlin Olsen. Yes, I'm positive.

I saw them walking past me in Chicago, and I was like, there's no way that was them. Looks kind of like them, though. And then my friend was like, oh, yeah, that was them. And I was like, damn, I wasn't sure. Yeah. I also saw Ben Gibbard from Death Cab walked. This is crazy. I was in Chicago.

I was on Clark Street, and I lived there. And I was playing with my friend. We were playing music, and we were playing Death Cab for Cutie Covers. And then I was like, well, we played a song and then we make good money. Everyone's drunk and they're partying and the baseball game's happening. And then I was like, I don't know. What do you want to play now? And she's like, I don't know.

Let's play one of your originals. I start playing. Ben Gibbard walks past me right before I was literally playing one of his songs. And I was like, I'm playing as I'm looking and walk by. He walks down the street and then I look over to my friend and then we're done i'm like that guy looked just like ben gibbard and she's like isn't he playing at the metro and i was like holy that was oh my there's a been a bunch of times in my life where i was like i can't tell if that's him or not yeah yeah especially with celebrities and movies because they do they do uh specific angles

on faces my good side, my bad side. You'll see someone and you're not quite sure if it's them. What about the fact that Roseanne's 5'3"? Wait, is she? She's like my mom. When you think of Roseanne Barr, I'm like this Godzilla figure. And it's like, oh, you're a cute little old lady. It's adorable.

I'll get that. You look like that guy. This is the other thing, too. Camera angles for TV shows, they hold the cameras at their chest height. So one thing people like to say is, here's another thing that I get a lot. Wow, you're a lot bigger than I thought. Oh, I get that all the time, too. So there's a video of me skating, and then the comments were like,

Tim is taller than everyone in this video. What? I thought he was short. Because our cameras are set at a higher angle to go over the heads. So what people don't understand is, their perspective, walking around the streets, if you're six feet tall, you're looking down. So if you're five, 10 or whatever, and you meet someone who's five, seven, you're looking down at him from this angle. And your brain says short. If you're watching a TV show with downward angles, your assumption is these are short people. When they film TV shows and movies movies they have these women who are five three but the cameras are all shut at chest height so it's eye level or

or lower than the actor and they assume that people are a lot taller than they are and then they find out most of the actors are actually a lot shorter than they are people don't know tim is six seven by the way six seven i i do like to uh when watching movies look at doors when the actor actress is walking by the door. And then you're like, man, Tom Cruise, he's a short guy. You can see the doorknob.

He's like, when he walks over and he reaches up for the doorknob, people will come up to me and be like, you look like that guy from Tim cast, uh, Adam Crigler. Shout out to Adam Crigler and our upcoming song, the forge.

Get ready for it. It's hot. Oh, the forge is coming out. I love her. That's a good song. Let's, uh, let's grab this one. Shout out Adam. Get ready for it. It's hot. Oh, The Forge is coming out? I love that song. That's a good song. Let's grab this one. Shout out, Adam.

Let's grab this one. We got Omega Rosetsu says, for Malice, I say to Jehovah's Witnesses as well, if you do not participate, your opinion is void and probably shouldn't have a political opinion. That's nice. What are you going to do about it? People tell me this. If you don't vote, you don't have a right to talk. Okay.

But you do. What are my consequences? You don't have the right to talk. They don't have to listen to you. That's their choice. It's the correct answer. And this is the point I was making about conservatives arguing with liberals and the conservatives and liberals are willing to debate is because many of the conservatives would say, well, I think, you know what I think is this, instead of going, okay. And your point

is, what are you going to do about it? It's just bizarre. If you're not voting, you don't have a bizarre. It's like you don't have a right. If you're not voting, you don't have a voice. It's like there's a microphone here. You're not supposed to vote. You can vote. Here's another one for you.

We got David Chorpening to Michael. Does Lysander Spooner's argument that anarchists should still vote to avoid a worse master carry any weight for you? No. Okay. Next question. Good answer. You just find, like, economic solutions are better? I don't regard it as legitimate that I'm going to choose which master I have.

I mean, that's crazy to me. I'd much rather take the time to work on destroying masterhood. So are you one of those guys who thinks that they should change the coding language where they got rid of the word master and slave? Oh yeah, that's me in a nutshell. Did you hear that though? Yes, of course. And what about master bedroom? Yeah, I was going to say, you're against that too, right?

What do they call the master bedroom now? Primary bedroom. What? But you'll be against primary eventually too. This is so dumb. Yeah, so master and slave are coding terms and they had this thing where they're like we're going to get rid of these words do they still say male and female with the plugs oh yeah wasn't that no I think that's still a thing

now it's receptive and the fact that they're saying front hole it's like front hole for like a lady no it's bonus hole now that's the proper terminology wait wait wait hold on Run hole? It's genitals. It used to be. Run hole for like a lady? Yes. No, it's bonus hole now. Well, yeah. That's the proper terminology is bonus hole. Wait, wait, wait.

Hold on. There is a coin game that you may have seen at malls and bars where you put the quarter in and the coin pusher pushes the quarter. There's a specific version of it where there's a hole in the center. Okay. And when the quarters fall into it, they fill a bucket up. Once the bucket gets too heavy, it drops all the quarters down, and it's called bonus hole. It's always been called

bonus hole. It's a very, very old game. They have one down the street here at a Mexican restaurant. So when the woke started referring to keep it family friendly, the colonic lined crevice between a male's legs for

pleasure, they referred those as bonus holes it was just kind of you know strange just kind of strange anyway let's read some more super chats all right all right let's see let's see um hold on youtube just did the stupid thing where the super chats jump all these super chats real quick uh it's called This Book is Gay, if I may interrupt. Yes. That was the book. It's got a glossary with things children should not be reading. And there was a teacher who was teaching it to, like, 10-year-olds, and they called the police on her.

Good. In Chicago. Right. And then they're like, they're trying to ban books. It's enticement of a minor. It's a crime. Anyway, Brian Leeds says ranks can share pay grades. Like, if it promotes automatically after a year, Waltz was a Master Sergeant E-8, not First Sergeant E-8.

Not Sergeant Major E-9, not Command Sergeant Major E-9. Did he illegally claim three ranks higher? I mean, Tim Waltz is a liar. We didn't get into that one story where his kid was crying for him and everyone got mad at Ann Coulter. But his lying is the least of it. It's the stuff that he says honestly that I'm worried about. Do you know what I mean?

That's a good point. It's the whole thing. He's super terrible. Yeah, that's good. I've kind of been in the look away phase. Maybe I should start watching more of this stuff. I would not trust my kids near his van. I cared about the soul and valor, but...

You don't want him to hang out with the coach? There's something... I'm telling you, there's something very, very Jerry Sandusky about him. Jeez, I gotta look into it more now. Alright, Dynas says everyone should correct your status as an American state national, not to be confused

with the oxymoron sovereign citizens looking to the United States Corporation under the 14th Amendment. Michael says no. I didn't say no, I said oh god. I just watched a video about this yesterday. Sovereign citizenry. Where you're like, I'm not driving. I'm traveling.

Yeah, I was birthed. They say that cops can't stop you not to have a driver's license because I'm not legally driving. I'm traveling. And traveling doesn't fall under your jurisdiction. Huh? These are the people who – I know. You know how these boomers, they say it's a Republican democracy?

Yeah. As if when you say that to Nancy Pelosi, she'd be like, oh, oh, crap, they figured it out. Clean out her desk and go home. There's not this magic set of rules that people who are evil and interested in increasing power are all of a sudden going to submit and be like, you know what? You're right. I'm going to follow the Constitution. That's not a thing.

But I mean, you say these boomers, but they're us. This is the IRL of our community. We say Republic, not democracy. And what is... Who cares? I'm just our community. We say republic, not democracy. Who cares? I'm just saying. Our opponents don't care. Yeah. Very true.

Is my point. Oh, right, right. And that's the frustration I have with a lot of people where we're at this point where, you know, Ian thinking he's going to argue with Democrats who are sitting there. Ian, when you sit down with someone like the Krasnyns and their Pac-Man and you're like, I really want to try and work this out and understand you, they're sitting there going like, this guy's so stupid. Dude, me and Ed and Brian get along great. There's nothing...

Yeah. They all follow me on Twitter. They're not thinking, what a good guy. They're thinking, this guy's dumb as a box of rocks. No, they're like, let's stay in touch and do stuff together. That's what they say. We're friends. Like, that's what I care about is that we get along, because then we can change each

other's minds. I have a very strong mind. Ian, what's Evian spelled backwards? Um, N-A-I-O, naive? Huh. I have a very strong mind. Ian, what's Evian spelled backwards? N-A-I-O. Naive? Huh. Did you know that gold bull's written on the ceiling, too?

I don't believe you, Tim. It's right to the tape? I see you lying. You see the tape up here? Look at you pointing. I'm looking. See the tape right there? I'm watching you make up stuff to try and prove some weird point. I make that up.

Michael sees the tape. I see the tape. And there is writing on it. Ian is refusing to look now. You see? Is it a refusal? I don't know. Oh, God, he's got a razor.

He's got a razor. The Krasensteins and these liberals are sitting there being like, yeah, let's do stuff together. Let's do stuff together. And in their mind, they're thinking, this guy's an idiot.

I think you have a malicious view on things that doesn't need to be there, man. A malicious view. He means me. He's sub-tweeting me. Not everything's about you, Michael. Well, he said malicious. But I think you misspoke. I think what you mean to say is

I perceive malice. Where there is none sometimes. He's sitting right in front of me, so I can't not. Maybe because of the way you were recording. Hi, everybody. You came from a hard background. I came from a really nice background, and I think we both have bias because of that. Well, everybody has their bias in their worldview, but I think it has more to do with, I worked in an industry, uh, the nonprofit sector, which was, which was literally training liberal, liberal individuals and young people to go lie to people, to get them to give

you money and vote for people, uh, for things that are a detriment to themselves. Yeah. I came from like helping people and right. One to the battered women's shelter and mowing the lawn for free or like for 15 bucks. Right, I worked for homeless shelters. And then, and what you learn is some people are evil and some people are not. And so there are certain liberals that are not evil. They're just wrong.

And you can have a decent conversation with them. You mentioned Jessica Tarloff. She's great. Shout out to Jessie. I enjoy watching her on Fox because she doesn't, she actually, she argues with Jessie and she's not stupid.

She's actually making good points when he, and I'm like, well, I disagree with her on that one, but she's not just saying random garbled nonsense. She's coming from

a place of truth. She's what? She's coming from a place of her truth. Right, and the crazies are not. And I know this for a fact because they omit context on purpose

and they even admit that they do this. There's a tweet thread from Brian where he explains he's going to push certain points he knows are out of context for the purpose of manipulating people. And then Ian's like, well, I don't know. I was like, whatever, dude. Anyway, it's 10.

Oh, you got the last word. You got to go to Hardee, and you got to go to Hardcast. You're going to get to speak at the members show. I don't know who's speaking. It's Whitmer. Whitmer's speaking. Smash the Whitmer. Whitmer's speaking. Smash the like button. Subscribe to this channel.

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listening to this pig speech. I'm not kidding at all. You know why? Because we all know it's going to be completely, here's the thing. I'll just say, I'll say my way than Kamala Harris.

I like doing this show. We have a good conversation. We don't always agree, but I think people enjoy watching it. But for her, it's like, I like doing this show. We have a good conversation. Sometimes people don't agree. It's like, my God. He's been saying it all night, I believe. I'm Raymond G. Stanley

Jr. I work facilities here, maintenance at TimCast.com. You sat me next to a janitor? Yeah, that's right. 100%. I crossed an ocean for this. Let's go. I look forward to... Thank you, Ian. You're up. What's your ex? Oh, my ex is

Raymond G. Stanley at X., thank you, Ian. You're up. What's your, what's your ex? Oh, my ex is Raymond, uh, G Stanley at, uh, x.com. Thanks, man. All right, guys. Uh,

have a good evening. Like Superman and Batman, me and Tim are gonna, gonna figure out a way to lead the justice league. You know, sometimes differing personalities got to work together. And so we do. I love you,

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