Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1101 Media PRAISES Harris For BOMBING Interview, Say ITS GOOD She Was Bad w/Natalie Beisner

Episode Date: August 31, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, & Raymond are joined by Natalie Beisner to discuss Kamala Harris bombing her interview with CNN, a man attacking the press area of Trump's rally, Trump slamming Florida's 6 week ab...ortion ban, and a hilarious commercial about Trump derangement syndrome posted by Nicole Shanahan. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Raymond @raymondgstanley (X) Guest: Natalie Beisner @NJBeisner (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm not kidding. I'm looking at the headlines for the Kamala Harris interview. First, why was it news that Kamala Harris did an interview? Trump has been doing interviews nonstop. Nobody cares. They just lie about what he says. Kamala Harris finally does one interview and they're forced to write about it because it's shocking.
Starting point is 00:00:20 And there are a plethora of media out saying that it was actually really good that her interview was really bad. It's actually a good thing that she was vague, nondescript and dull. I look, if you watch the interview, she mentioned some policy. It's it's I would say a lot of it's vague. She's gotten some criticism, a lot of criticism, criticism from conservatives for flip flopping for hypocrisy. And then you've got the Democrat media just being like, wow, actually, it was really great that she said nothing and it was boring. Literally, they call it boring. You know, that's actually really funny. But this is what gets me. Donald Trump keeps giving these speeches. Now he's saying, you know, this big pitch from last night that he's going to have government funded IVF or insurance funded IVF. I'm actually a fan of that, to be
Starting point is 00:01:02 honest. But again, I'm not I'm not a super staunch conservative like many of you maybe or some of you maybe. But who's Trump arguing to when he says this stuff? He's not he's not debating Kamala Harris on issues. So this is this is what a lot of people on the right are complaining about. Trump is is acting like he's in an argument to win voters when Democrats are simply voting for a color and not an actual person. And I mean, you could you could argue that they're voting for Kamala Harris because she's a black woman. But I mean, like literally just vote blue no matter who. So we'll talk about that. We do got big news out of Brazil. They've shut down X. They're threatening to shut down Starlink. They're trying to seize money from Starlink. Rumble's already pulled out and they're going to fine Brazilian citizens if they use a VP
Starting point is 00:01:41 to bypass the restrictions to use X, $9,000 a day. So this is absolutely wild. We'll talk about that. Plus, again, Donald Trump's positions. Before we get started, my friends, head over to gasbrew.com and buy coffee. We got some of the best coffee. In fact, we have the best coffee you'll ever have. I'm allowed to say that it's legal because it's an opinion.
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Starting point is 00:03:06 Thanks for having me. I'm happy to be here. I am a liberal, atheist, lifelong Democrat. Oh, atheist. Turned Christian conservative commentator. Yes, calm down. We're having a diverse show. But it didn't happen overnight, But I was pretty far in. I was a Hillary Clinton voter and a Planned Parenthood donator. And honestly, just in a nutshell, it was 2020 being told that I couldn't go to work and visit my family, but I could go out and protest.
Starting point is 00:03:36 That was crazy to me. And it was just a domino effect, like a rabbit hole, part of the walkaway movements. Brandon, I know he's a friend of the show. We've been on college campuses together. And I have to add, I am a TimCast fan. I listen every night. You're in my ear for like two hours every day. And I only say that because it was like integral
Starting point is 00:03:55 to my walkaway movement or to my walkaway story because I thought I knew stuff, but I did not know anything. And to someone totally uninitiated to politics, it was just accessible, enjoyable. And I've had a lot of podcasts like fall off, but yours is one that I like keep listening to. Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate it. Glad to be here. Thank you. And I'll just mention the atheist thing was not a dig at atheists. It's because this morning on the Culture War podcast, we had this this conversation around simulation theory,
Starting point is 00:04:21 God, and Ian was saying wacky. So it's, I'm sorry, I just have to plug this because we had this PhD artificial intelligence, like, professor. It was so fun. And he's like, one of the top guys has written a book on the dangers of AI. And then Ian looks at him and asks him about like resonating frequencies and crystal sphere computers. And this PhD guy looks at me like, what is he talking about? And I started laughing. I'm like, let me try and translate what Ian is saying. And then I effectively translated. I said, I think what Ian's trying to ask is the structure of the computer, does it change the way the algorithms function if it's using different materials or it's in different shapes? And he goes, oh, yes, the substrate.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Right. Now I understand. Anyway, that was a lot of fun on the Culture War podcast. But Raymond's hanging out. What's up, friends? I'm Raymond G. Stanley Jr. I appreciate you coming on because I can relate to everything you just said. Yeah, I'm here. Let's go. I like that you hesitated with friends. You're like the mayor of the Discord. You're like, I don't know if I like these people. I'm just heckling you.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. That's Scanner News. Follow all their work at TimCastNews. I'm so glad you could join us. Let's get started. So there's a bunch of stories related to this. Last night, Kamala Harris finally gave an interview.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I think the total runtime turned out to be 26 minutes, but that's probably including commercials or something. Because some people have said 18 minutes. And it was vague. She did say some things. Like, look, I'll try to give credit where credit is due. She said she wants to increase the child tax credit to, I think, what was it, $6,000? Yes. And that's a policy. I agree with that policy. I like that. But when she says things
Starting point is 00:05:49 like her opening line is, you know, Dana Bash says, like, what's the first thing you're going to do? And she says, I'm going to focus on helping the middle class. And then she starts word salad-ing some gibberish nonsense, which is incomprehensible. And then after a few minutes, Dana goes, and what is the first thing you're going to do? And she's like, oh, well, I've laid out a whole bunch of policies. I've already done it. And she doesn't describe them. But then she gives us one, the child tax credit. And it's like, OK, now she's got a lot of criticism, not just from conservatives, but anyone who is saying unfortunately, most Democrats are just praising her no matter what. But here are
Starting point is 00:06:22 the headlines. Take a look at this. It's actually a good thing that Kamala Harris has seen an interview was so dull. Donald Trump said that the interview was boring, but that's not a bad thing. OK, here's the AP. The interview Kamala Harris's inaugural sit down was the most notable for seeming ordinary. Uh huh. Guardian Kamala Harris was much Kamala Harris is much hyped. First big interview was radically normal. This is how they're addressing the fact that anybody who watched it was bored and and not informed by it. We don't know what she wants to do. She's got she's flip flopped on on fracking and no fracking. She's flip flopped on basically all of her policies. She said in 2020 that she wanted to decriminalize border crossings. Now she's talking about enforcing the law. So we don't, we haven't actually learned a thing about what she wants to do. And I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:07:11 The best the media could come up with is that feeling you get when you watch that, which is vague misunderstanding of what she represents. It's actually a good thing because it's, you know, because she's normal. Well, this is also like a opposition to weird, you we're weird and they're they're normal they're so normal uh but i thought it was interesting how she she basically said we're going to do all this and and then to her credit dana says well why haven't you and she says well we had to fix the economy so she says she's she essentially says we're going to fix the economy help the middle class but we couldn't do it yet because we had to fix the economy, which we've done.
Starting point is 00:07:46 It was very it was like an odd opening to the interview because, again, you're right. As usual, she doesn't actually say anything. It's a lot of whoever you said that before the show started. No, Serge, you said it, that that it was she says a lot, but she doesn't say anything is basically and contradicts herself left and right. The closest we got was Washington Post. Was CNN's big Kamala Harris interview a dud? Or have the Democrats become a party that runs against the mainstream news media? What?
Starting point is 00:08:13 The closest we got to them criticizing the fact that it was bad is they just asked whether it was good or bad. Can we get anyone in the corporate press to be honest and just say it was vague? It did not inform. We are uninspired by this woman. They can't do it. Also, not the Washington Post talking about the mainstream media as if they are not a part of that. I find this fascinating that, you know, I think there were a lot of political analysts who were getting frustrated with Kamala Harris. They will ultimately defend her. But you would watch these like NBC morning shows. Right. And they would be like, well, it's been this many days and she hasn't done an interview like
Starting point is 00:08:52 there. They make their bones off of getting these exclusive clips, being able to say, well, I sat down with with Kamala Harris and now only CNN can say that. And they have to say, well, we couldn't sit down with her alone. She had to her best friend forever tim walls with her and also she kind of said nothing the whole time and we sat in the dark and it was uncomfortable i think it's kind of showing how uh how much the harris walls campaign just expects voters to turn out for them they did this out of obligation right it's like if you have a friend that you're not really close to anymore, but you know you should probably keep in touch with them, you might set up like a really quick like coffee, but you're not going to like spend a whole weekend with them.
Starting point is 00:09:31 That's effectively what Kamala Harris did to the mainstream media today. And she's like our boy, Frank Luntz, you know, we love this pollster. He said that if an interview is judged, not on policy, but a performance, Kamala Harris will be found lacking. We all saw it. She didn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:09:46 A lot of word salads. A lot of nothing. She didn't explain why. I mean, why she changed her position on tracking. Didn't say why. Just said that I've been consistent since 2020. But she didn't laugh. She laughed once. I think she's really tired. I'll give her credit for that. She's working on it. I think she's really tired. Every time I see a screenshot of this interview, I think
Starting point is 00:10:02 she just looks tired. And we talked to this a little bit last night so I don't want to rehash all the same points, but she's dressed in gray. It was kind of a dark room. I mean, she looks, even in this shot from Washington Post, she looks smaller next to Tim Walz. She does not seem to be in command of this interview. And I think there is a level of exhaustion. You know, campaigning for president is extremely demanding, and I don't think she is cut out for it. I think there's a reason that her first bid for the presidency didn't work out in 2020.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Because she's terrible. And it's just that she doesn't have it. Yeah. Seems so false. I know I'm biased, you know, I'm a Trump supporter, but Trump just seems so real. And she told that story about we were making pancakes and then they were like, Auntie Kamala, Biden's calling.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And, you know, that was them telling her that he's dropping out or whatever. We were making pancakes and then they were like, Auntie Kamala, Biden's calling. And, you know, that was them telling her that he's dropping out or whatever. It just doesn't seem real. She comes off so fake all the time. And, you know, I know we spoke about this prior to hitting record, but I found the most offensive thing was Tim Walz saying that his reasoning for lying to everybody was a bad grammar. I was more offended by that than anything else because, and again, Dana kind of like pushes him on it, but I wish she would have asked a third question because he didn't answer the question about why he lied
Starting point is 00:11:16 multiple times about two separate issues. And then it's, oh, I'm passionate. And my wife says I have bad grammar. Like it's offensive. And if it's not this, they're making fun of my children, right? Like immediately pivots to being the victim. He's good at it. I mean, this works on weak-willed people.
Starting point is 00:11:31 So for me, I'm sitting there going, yes, but your bad grammar doesn't explain why you told people you were in war or lied about your rank. And he's not going to answer it. And this is the point I was making in the intro to the show. I am, look, I don't know what's going to happen in November.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I want Trump to win, obviously. But I am concerned that whoever is advising him, even though he brought in Corey Lewandowski and things have improved in certain areas, he still thinks he's arguing to win. Right. So this whole IVF thing, which, again, we'll get into in a little bit. It's Trump going up on stage and he's saying Kamala is bad for this reason. Here's why you should vote for me for this reason. And Kamala is just dancing and cackling because people aren't voting for Kamala. I think I was talking I was talking to Ian earlier who is he's not here, but he was telling me that when he talks to his friends and family, they say just vote for the party. Yeah. And I'm like, that's exactly right. They don't care what Kamala represents. They are voting for the party. So there's no argument to be made to them. So Trump doesn't need to constantly keep arguing these points.
Starting point is 00:12:38 When Tim Walz goes up there, excuse me, and says, well, I've got bad grammar. And then he moves on, but they attacked my kids. It doesn't matter what he said. He could literally come out and says, well, I've got bad grammar. And then he moves on. But they attack my kids. It doesn't matter what he said. He could literally come out and say, I was serving in a wartime insecurity for the United States while it was actively in a conflict. And though our risk was substantially smaller, not in not in the war zone, we were in war. And then she'd be like, OK. And Democrats would just clap and be like, I accept that answer. He could literally just look at her and burp and they would go, ha ha, you, yeah. And they would cheer for him and they would say he shoved it back in their face. They shouldn't even be asking.
Starting point is 00:13:12 No matter what he says, Democrats are going to are going to hoot and clap. Speaking as a former TDS sufferer, you are correct. It does not matter. It literally does not matter. But I mean, have you gotten what should Trump do instead? I mean, what does he do instead of arguing these points? So it's not so much that he shouldn't argue. It's that he should argue with he should he should argue a point to the American people instead of argue against Kamala Harris. And so specifically what I'm saying is the reason why Trump is going for this IVF
Starting point is 00:13:45 thing, it's government funded IVF. It doesn't move the needle. What he's trying to do is he's trying to basically go at the media narrative they're presenting. They say Donald Trump wants to ban IVF. It doesn't matter if they said QVC. Democrats are going to go, he wants to ban, insert random object. It doesn't matter. Trump is badVC. Democrats are going to go. He wants to ban insert random object. It doesn't matter. Trump is bad. So Trump then says he wants to support IVF. Why?
Starting point is 00:14:12 Or he wants government funded. It's a big ask type maneuver where he jumps over their talking point and then he can try and be like, look, they're lying. I said this. Now, maybe there's an argument for that. A regular person who doesn't really pay attention might have a walkaway moment when they're sitting there being like, Trump wants to ban IVF. And then someone says,
Starting point is 00:14:28 here's a video of Trump saying he wants government funded IVF. That could be the strategy. And I respect that. But what I'm saying is, should it be the case that he's actually trying to argue against them, outmaneuver them,
Starting point is 00:14:39 like out argue them, not some 5D chess trick people into waking up from TDS. I don't think it's effective in this regard. And he needs to focus on your prices will come down with me. And he's done a lot of that that's really, really good. I'm just saying in that one particular instance, I don't see it as effective.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I don't know about yourself, but like Trump did not wake me up at all. Like listen to him speak. I did not wake up from watching podcasts like yourself and Dan Bongino's woke me up. Whereas what Trump's policies and what he said did not have any impacts on what I was thinking and why I changed the way I was thinking. I don't know about yourself. No, but once you, like, do the research and you realize, oh, he didn't actually say that.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Oh, he didn't actually. All of it's a lie, you know, so he didn't wake me up but seeing the truth how did you contract real quick i just want to say if that is the play and i would say this the one thing trump has done well with that maneuver is given you all listening right now the opportunity so when one of your friends or family member says he's going to ban ivf you can be like huh he said he wants to the government to pay for it yeah that being said i've already seen how rank and file Democrats and Democrat voters have responded. Trump's lying. That's it. Well, you're right, because I actually do agree with you because she is still tweeting out or whoever runs her account.
Starting point is 00:15:56 He wants to ban abortion. And how many times and we're all a lot of conservatives are mad at him that he doesn't actually want to ban abortion. So who's he arguing to? But so she keeps saying the lie. And you're right that it doesn't work. But ban abortion. So who's he arguing to? But so she keeps saying the lie and you're right that it doesn't work. But she needs him to be the villain, right? Everything bad that you fear most has to be Trump. I mean, she'll refer to everything as a Trump abortion ban, even when they are state level initiatives that he has no involvement in.
Starting point is 00:16:19 But it always ultimately has to be Trump's fault because that's how she is planning to win the election by not presenting her own policies. That way you can never be mad at her and by pointing the finger always at Trump as like, we must run away from this person. But I do want to know, how did you contract TDS? Like, when did you notice it? She was bitten by a monkey pox.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Because you said you were a lifelong Democrat. It's reflexive. I mean, I think it's a default. I think especially I'm a millennial. I think a lot of millennials are. I grew up in Southern California. I think a lot of I was an actress for a long time. You're liberal. My parents were Republican, but we didn't really talk about it, which I know you address sometimes, Tim, that you think we should talk about a little more. I think people just reflexively. You have to work hard to not have TDS. But everything, the media, celebrities, everything is telling you to have it. And so you have to do work to not, and it's just easier to not. It's very true. Very true. You said your parents are Republicans. Yeah. So when you were like, I hate Donald Trump, did they push you on
Starting point is 00:17:16 it or did they sort of let go? Because it's hard to have these conversations with family. Yeah. It kept me grounded because I was like, they're lying about Trump supporters because my parents aren't like that, you know? So I cannot understand these people that are like, I don't talk to my dad anymore because he's a Trump supporter because I love my dad more than I hated Donald Trump. And I hated Donald Trump. But it kept you grounded of like, okay, so they're not all as bad as they say because my parents aren't like that.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I wish more families kind of had that going on, but it doesn't seem like it. But most people don't give the benefit of the doubt if you're related or your best friend is a transporter. Hard for me to fathom, though. If parents do not transfer their principles to their children, their children will go towards whatever the media tells them to do. And the media is going to lie to them. Yeah. Nowadays, it's social media, not media media at all.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Right. Now it's and the crazy thing is it is a cult and you can't get the way you save someone from a cult is you remove them from the people who are organized like who are attacking their mind in this way but what do you do with social media take their phone away yeah so now people are surrounded on social media not just with lies but many people know they're being lied to and they know it's wrong they're're just scared to break away. And so, I mean, you see this with big corporations. They're less susceptible because they're not humans, but they still have this, you know, logical cost benefit analysis of, hey, we're being attacked by more people on the left
Starting point is 00:18:35 and the right and the right's not buying our product anyway. So do whatever the left wants. Yeah. So to a single human, they're thinking all of my friends are liberal. I can't lose my friends and my family. And so they'll accept it, even if they think it's wrong. It really is like a cult, though. I know you guys have spoken on this, but because my whole thing was just questioning COVID and BLM.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I didn't like become a Christian conservative. You know, like I just had questions and you can't question, you know, and I know so many people have that same experience. And I mean, that's a cult. We've got actually a big breaking story from just about an hour ago from the Boston Herald police taser subdue a man who stormed the media area of a Trump rally in Pennsylvania. We actually have the video. It's going viral.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Brandon Strzok says, does the Secret Service exist at all? Another violent Democrat tries to attack President Trump at his rally. So this is a minute long. You can see the man right here. I don't want to be too loud. We'll play this video.
Starting point is 00:19:35 So I don't believe this man is trying to attack Trump. He's attacking the press area. They grab him and rip him down from what appears to be he's trying to climb up on top of the press area for some reason. Don't tase me, bro. I don't know that he's a Democrat, but I think it's a reasonable assumption that he's not a Trump supporter. That's fair. Very fair.
Starting point is 00:19:58 But this stuff has me worried. So the Boston Herald says a man at a Donald Trump rally in Pennsylvania stormed into the press area, was surrounded by police and eventually subdued with a taser. The altercation came moments after Trump criticized major media outlets for what he said was unfavorable coverage and dismissed CNN's fawning for its interview Thursday, blah, blah, blah. The man made it over the bicycle rack, ringing the media area and began to climb the backside of a riser where television reporters and cameras were stationed. People near him tried to pull him down. The crowd cheered as a pack of police led the man away. So, you know, I don't I don't see this as a guy attacking Trump, but the security breach is still worrying. And there are a lot of people who are concerned. In fact, there was a Secret Service agent who
Starting point is 00:20:39 wrote a letter after the assassination attempt on Donald Trump saying, we can expect this to happen again before the election. And you see a story like this, and I'm kind of worried that Trump's security is at great risk. Look, this guy should not have been able to get in the press area. Maybe they're thinking Trump's not there, so it's not a high priority. But any kind of security breach at these areas are worrying. Yeah. Did you see that? What did Donald Trump say?
Starting point is 00:21:07 There's nowhere more fun to be than a Trump rally? Is that what he said? Yeah, because he takes all this stuff in stride. He does take it in stride. It is worrying, but he definitely does. You think he was a Trump supporter? Because if Trump's talking about the media being bad, and then the guy goes, media, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Well, how did they even get it? Oh, he didn't have it. Okay, yeah. Yeah, that's still crazy. I mean, I don't know. I feel like that logic follows and I get what you're saying, but I also feel like a lot of I don't see very many Trump supporters wanting to disrupt a Trump speech. No, it's usually fine. Like I could understand if he was like yelling at them as they
Starting point is 00:21:42 like took their seats, right? Being like, you guys are the worst, but you know, it actually is more distracting from Trump if you were supportive of him to do that kind of thing at his rally. People are crazy. Yeah, people are crazy. Do you guys think that, what do you guys feel like the risk is or the probability that Trump faces another attempt on his life before the election? I'm going 66 percent. Easy. 66 percent?
Starting point is 00:22:04 That's a very specific number. Very specific, yeah. 66.66? I mean, sure. Let's go straight two-thirds. Well, given the fact that we have no answers about anything, have people been fired over July 13th finally? Suspended, I think.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Suspended. It took a very long time, and if you watch those congressional hearings, it was nothing. It made no sense. I had more questions watching those hearings than I did before I watched the nothing. It made no sense. I had more questions watching those hearings than I did before I watched the hearings. It was absolutely ridiculous. So given that, and then the guy Ronald Rowe, I think is in charge now. Is he the acting director still?
Starting point is 00:22:35 He doesn't know what the heck's going on either. He seemed like a little more likable than Kimberly Cheadle, but I still think he's blowing smoke. So if he's in charge right now, then yes, I would say is 66 percent or higher. Adrienne Curry in the chat says 100 percent. OK, yeah, I agree. Yeah, good chance. I agree. I don't want to go. I'm worried about agreeing, but I think it's high.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Yeah. Considering we like you mentioned, we don't have any answers. We don't know. They're saying they don't know the motivation. The stories. It's nonsense. It does not make sense. And then you take a look at Trump's victories in courts versus what they're trying to do. Jack Smith is told by the Supreme Court, you can't do this. So he files a new indictment and then appeals to try and go after Trump for the documents again. It doesn't matter what the Supreme Court says. They're just,
Starting point is 00:23:26 they're going to stop at nothing to get Trump. We are two and a half weeks away from Trump sentencing. This is actually the only time I think the mainstream media does something. It's not really to help Trump, but it sort of offers him
Starting point is 00:23:37 a level of protection because other than just a deranged person who feels it upon themselves the need to like do something violent. When Trump was attacked in July, he was ahead in the polls. Everyone knew he was doing well. It was very clear that he was
Starting point is 00:23:51 going to dominate Biden in the general election. But now the mainstream media tells us all the time that, you know, well, Kamala's surging the polls and she's actually closing a lead and actually maybe she's ahead here. So in some way, someone who is feeling desperate doesn't feel the same kind of pressure they would have before under Biden. That's good. Other than just like ideologically TDS, he's horrible and like a screw loose kind of thing where they feel called to do something terrible. Some of the pressure is conveniently off. I think it's still so close, though. I just don't trust the Secret Service right now.
Starting point is 00:24:24 That's the big problem. Like you, I don't know what people are going to do. I'm just offering that as like an alternative, you know, things are a little bit more. Did you hear him say, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:24:33 Ronald Rowe say it was a failure of imagination that we wouldn't have thought this would happen. And like, isn't that your job to have a little imagination that people do bad stuff. So, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:44 I, I don't think people i think both sides are worried and if someone's crazy someone's crazy and it'll still happen that's that's a good point like he was 98 chance maybe you're gonna win over biden because biden's which is why when they say it was fake it makes no sense because he was doing he was i've never understood that when they're like he fakes this he was ahead and he was he should have waited until october he didn't have any reason to fake anything no because all the news was how terrible biden's cognitive ability was and i would have waited till october to fake this he didn't fake it we all know that the the media
Starting point is 00:25:19 covering criticism of biden helped him why would you disrupt that coverage? It doesn't make any sense. I am very worried for Donald Trump. Yeah. I'm worried for the country. That too? Yeah. I don't think either side will. Maybe I'm thinking too much and it'll just be business as usual. I'm not just worried for the country. I mean, the world is on the brink, you know, and so it's not just Donald Trump. Trump needs to win for a variety of reasons, one of which is what we are seeing internationally with the UK arresting people over social media, with Brazil's actions, which we'll get into in a little bit. You're not going to be
Starting point is 00:25:55 able to travel internationally at all. And I'm not talking about public figures. You're a regular dude. And you post, what is it? There's a podcast in Australia, I think the story was. This is what it was. It was in Australia. And in the podcast, they referred to a trans woman as a guy. And it's like a, it's a guy. It's just a guy. It's a guy who's balding. And he just looks like a guy. And then the guy's like, no, you have to call me a woman. So the court said, take the episode, delete the episode. You're going to be on your Facebook in the United States, and you're going to write something like, you facebook in the united states and you're gonna write something like you know uh this guy's a bloke or whatever and then you're gonna go on vacation to the uk
Starting point is 00:26:31 and get off the plane and they're gonna walk up to you and they're gonna arrest you yes no i'm not kidding i agree that guy in the uk already said they want to extradite people from other countries and arrest them and so there is a concern i don't know how much i believe this is likely in the immediate future that under a kamala harrah harrah kamala harris term presidency and maybe two who knows she will actually say okay we have extradition treaties with the uk and you've committed a uk crime so off you go yeah no more dank memes no more it's gonna be no more dank memes that's gonna be that's how they bypass the u.s basically, the issue you have is with Elon Musk and with Rumble, people are getting their free speech back to certain degrees. How did they get around that?
Starting point is 00:27:13 You broke Canadian law. You broke U.K. law. You were posting in a public forum accessible by people in the U.K. and you violated their laws. So now you have to answer to them because the U.K UK is saying they want to extradite people from other countries. But even outside of that, you know, we're talking about the risk to Trump's life. I've been thinking about. Some regular guy is going to go on vacation to Ireland, is going to go on vacation to Australia, is going to get arrested and then no one's going to come to help him. The state of the world is falling into absolute chaos. If if Trump doesn't win, it's not just a question about
Starting point is 00:27:45 is our country in trouble, our democracy, whatever. Are we going to fire bad elements within the FBI or something? It's quite literally World War III and global totalitarianism. Yeah, which, well, before I would have said I don't believe you, but after, you know, the things we've seen in the last four years, I feel like I have a little PTSD, like anything can happen, like innocence is lost. But that is why, and I know we're maybe getting to this, but that's why it bothers me a little bit when conservatives are arguing over things like abortion and IVF, because this is kind of a single issue election and the choice is clear, like fundamentally, regardless of how conservative you are. And I wish people could just get on board with that because it is frightening. Yeah. Do you want to live in a dystopian future or do you want to live in a free America?
Starting point is 00:28:31 Yeah. So when- Make up your mind, folks. When Harris had her shortlist of VP candidates, one of the things that I heard often was that she was going to pick someone who had more international diplomatic experience that basically could bolster her where she is particularly weak, which is meaning that she's a terrible communicator and also, you know, doesn't have a lot of experience on the international stage. She then picked Tim Walz, who I don't think served any of that purpose, which means that they're running a ticket where
Starting point is 00:29:02 they're saying, you know, you're looking around the world and you're seeing all these global crises, tension between China and Taiwan, Israel, Palestine, everything that's going on, especially in Ukraine. And their current plan, if you're a Democrat, is to send Kamala Harris and or maybe Tim Walz to negotiate on her behalf. Is that enough to wake someone up? Or is it just sort of like, close your eyes and pretend that she's a girl boss enough to handle it? Well, we've been sending Blinken and he's failing left and right. China's telling Blinken. He's not good, but at least like he has a resume behind him.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Neither one of them really do. True. I don't think they care. I don't think they care. I mean, these people hate Donald Trump. They despise him. And I don't think they care. I don't think they think about this stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:47 I don't think they realize that we're on the brink of like World War III or anything. Because they don't pay attention to the news? Like Ukraine was before and we have forgotten about it? Well, no. Tim, you have said that if you read the news, you're conservative. That is true. I did not. I can't speak for every Democrat.
Starting point is 00:30:03 They don't know what's going on. I didn't read the news. I didn't know anything. I think it's more fair to conservatives to say if you read the news, then you are on the right. Okay. Yeah. I misquoted you. Sorry. How dare you? You might not have. You might not have. I may have said something to that effect. What I would clarify now is the reason why I often say I'm not a conservative, like I didn't begin the show, is for the sake of conservatives, not liberals. Conservatives know I'm not a conservative. And didn't begin the show is for the sake of conservatives, not liberals. Conservatives know I'm not a conservative. And they tweeted at me all the time because the left will be like Tim.
Starting point is 00:30:30 They'll write these stories that Tim's a conservative podcaster. And then all the conservatives are like, no, he's not. He is a liberal. You're just nuts. And I'm like, it's to their credit, I guess. But then the left says Tim's lying to conservatives to convince them that he's what a liberal should be. It's utter nonsense. But conservative means something. And the reality is there are post liberals, disaffected liberals and moderates that are voting for Donald Trump. They consider
Starting point is 00:30:55 themselves either center left or even even social liberals like the Democrats. Many Democrats used to be. But the Democrats are insane. And not only that, I think it is absolutely the case that you could be pro-affirmative action, pro-choice. I don't know about extremely pro-abortion. In fact, I got to be honest, you could probably be pro-abortion to a greater degree than anyone on the right. You can be absolutely in favor of affirmative action and DEI policies and still vote for donald trump that's rfk rfk is pro affirmative action exactly pro-choice because when rfk looks at donald trump he's thinking to himself this is a guy who called columbus day indigenous people's day yeah but he's thinking to himself the democrats are pro-war pro-censorship pro-big pharma
Starting point is 00:31:42 donald trump is unfortunately for him, he's actually, I don't even think RFK views him as a lesser of two evils. I think the people who have crossed the aisle to vote for Trump view him as a net positive defense against this corruption. The reality is Trump's a moderate on most things. I think they look at Trump
Starting point is 00:32:00 as a long-term investment in the future. You know, Kamala Harris represents a level of destruction and I think chaos more than anything else. And people don't want that right now. I think both political leaders don't want that and definitely the American public. Myers does this does this dance where she says, Oh, well, I have presented policies, but also we couldn't implement them. We had to fix the economy. But also, I'm going to do something new on day one. But also I've been here for three years. I mean, nothing she says is consistent and she can never really inspire confidence with this sort of wishy-washy sort of defending herself, sort of, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:34 acting as if she's a leader position. And I think when people who don't necessarily love everything Donald Trump stands for look at him, they realize that he is able to negotiate with world leaders. He is going to deliver on certain economic promises that he already had a stable economy. And so it's more like it's better to choose this person than a person who can't give you any information, even though every major outlet in America is begging her for the time of day. Let's jump to everyone's favorite subject, abortion. Yippee.
Starting point is 00:33:07 From SCNR.com, Trump says Florida's six-week abortion ban too short and conservative amid conservative infighting. The GOP candidates' comments follow a prominent anti-abortion advocate withdrawing support. Now, this story went massively viral. Donald Trump said that he's going to be voting no on the proposition in Florida. And so you've got a bunch of conservatives cheering him on now saying he is the pro-life candidate. And the reason they're doing it is because pro-life activists are threatening to withhold their vote from Donald Trump. During an interview on Thursday with NBC Politics, former president was asked if he plans to support a new amendment on the Sunshine States ballot this
Starting point is 00:33:42 November that prohibits abortion restrictions. The six-week ban went into effect on May 1st. I think six-week is too short. It has to be more time. And I've told them that I want more weeks. When asked if he would support the amendment in his homestead, he says, I'm going to be voting that we need more than six weeks. Well, that sounds like he's... He changed.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Trump War Room just posted it, and Charlie Kirk reposted. Today, he said... Right, he's he changed. Yeah. Trump War Room just posted it. And Charlie Kirk reposted today. He said, right. He's right. But no, it was kind of Thursday. Friday was a little bit of a shift. Right. That was and that was the big news that everybody was going viral. Yeah. Or that was going viral with everybody where let me let me pull it up. And I don't know how you can vote for more weeks if the guideline is six weeks. That's not it. That's not an option. I'm going to vote for 1A. I think the amendment is you cannot make any law prior to viability
Starting point is 00:34:30 or affecting if the mother's health is in danger. So this was the clip. This is from War Room today. A major win. Trump saying nine months is just a ridiculous situation. Eat crow haters. Trump did the right thing. So this was the big
Starting point is 00:34:45 story Trump ultimately coming out. But again, I find it. I mean, we're we're we're we're in trouble when we have pro-life activists looking at Trump and saying they're going to withhold their vote and Democrats literally taking it like, OK, I earmuffs for your kids. OK, if your kids are listening or in the room, you can earmuffs them now. Democrats are literally having gay sex in the Senate building and they don't care. They don't care. They'll vote for these people. To be fair, the guy got fired.
Starting point is 00:35:14 But you've got this debauchery and Trump is trying to have and the right is infighting. I can't stand this. This is crazy. And I'm as pro-life as they come. I know I said I donated to Planned Parenthood. I don't even believe in exceptions for assault, but that's not in this election cycle. It's so crazy to be fighting about this right now because every election is a choice. I'm for Donald Trump, but every election between two men or people is a choice between the lesser of two evils.
Starting point is 00:35:42 It's always been that way. And if somehow DeSantis were our nominee because something to happen to Haley and Trump and he ran on, I'm going to ban abortion, he would lose. And it's not Trump's fault that abortion bans are not popular with the American people. That's my fault as a pro-life activist. That's anyone's fault who's against abortion and knows the truth about abortion.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And it's kind of like we're looking for someone to blame because he hasn't shifted. He's always been for what? The first trimester, pretty much. I think old school Democrat. Exactly. A lot of people are for that. Most Americans are. And I don't agree with it, but it's not his fault that it's unpopular. The issue here with Trump and this is what I was bringing up before about the argument is he should say nothing on any of it. He should just not bring it up. There's nothing to be gained from entering an abortion debate. Democrats don't care. Trump's going to say something like, I want government to pay for IVF. And then the Democrats are going to say,
Starting point is 00:36:37 yeah, he said that. But in Project 2025, they're going to ban abortion. And then they go, whoa, and that's Trump's plan. He's lying to you. And so Trump is arguing with a cult. And no matter what he's going to say, they're going to say he's lying. He's not convincing them. I don't I don't think. I get why he's a moderate on the issue, saying it should stay with the states is fine. But the more he says it, the more he brings it up, the more he opens up vulnerabilities out of sight, out of mind as it goes. If Donald Trump did not comment on this at all and instead said something about the border that was controversial, he would put something on Kamala Harris instead of on himself. Yeah. Democrats
Starting point is 00:37:15 want abortion. They want it unrestricted across the board forever. Trump is now entering an argument amongst conservatives. Trump, instead of talking about abortion, could as soon as someone asked about abortion, he could have been like, man, it's tough to think about because of what's going on in the border. I got to be honest. What we need to do is insert migrant issue, generate controversy about a migrant issue that forces Kamala Harris to respond or react to that will say Trump is lying or something else. But that's something that is more easily brought up in the minds of people, because what Kamala Harris is doing is unpopular with the border.
Starting point is 00:37:49 But Democrats want abortion and women want abortion. So Trump is in a difficult position trying to argue this with anybody. Well, the Harris campaign brings this up because they think, you know, it rallies support among their base and also it makes Republicans infight. Trump should, when asked about this, say, you know, abortion is such a complicated conversation. We all want to preserve life. And, you know, actually, I think that's a really, that's a good reason why we should talk about
Starting point is 00:38:12 what's going on in Israel-Palestine because so many people are losing their lives there. And, you know, I would really like to see stronger leadership from the Biden-Harris administration. Like, he should push her on this issue because that's what Democrats infight about. Harris, she flips off on it so intensely. But there is a huge faction of progressive young voters, which, by the way, her major
Starting point is 00:38:31 gains after the convention were among young voters. And that doesn't mean that they're huge gains. That's just who she gained with. But those are the same people are saying we're going to sit out. We would rather not vote at all than have vote for someone who doesn't support Palestine. Imagine when they come up to Trump and they were like, I wanted to ask you about your position on abortion. That's generating a lot of controversy. And he just looked at him and went, Israel, Palestine, it's tough, isn't it? I wonder what Democrats are going to do about that one.
Starting point is 00:38:54 If Democrats really cared about women, they would really care about what's going on in these overseas conflicts. Yeah, that's like their abortion kind of breaks them up. But I just, you know, there are so if X is any indication, there's a lot of DeSantis people who were already not going to vote for him because of this. And they can't get over the fact that it wasn't DeSantis. It's just crazy to me because your options are codifying row and then saving some babies. It's like saving no babies versus saving some.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And I wish every conservative could just like, just stop listening to what he says when he tweeted out about I'm going to protect reproductive rights. I wish he wouldn't have done that. But like, just ignore it and understand that he's the most pro-life candidate that we've got right now. Right. It's he's literally the president who got Roe v. Wade overturned. Right. Pro-lifers are mad. And that's crazy. That's like 50 years of precedence that he reversed. He is the only sitting president to attend the March for Life. I mean, he is the most pro-life president of our history. And I also think it's important to note
Starting point is 00:39:52 that just because we compromise once, that doesn't mean it's set in stone. Like you shift the needle incrementally to the right, hopefully, because that's the same way they shifted it to the left incrementally. It wasn't overnight. When I was growing up, it was safe, legal, and rare. And now they won't even say rare anymore. And it seems like a lot of conservatives just want to shift it to the left incrementally. It wasn't overnight. When I was growing up, it was safe, legal, and rare, and now they won't even say rare
Starting point is 00:40:05 anymore. And it seems like a lot of conservatives just want to shift it overnight all of a sudden. So just because we compromise now doesn't mean God's going to smite us. Maybe Trump could pull a big ask on abortion. And then once Kamala says she wants unrighteous abortions, Trump could say he wants mandatory abortions. Just go well beyond the Democrat position and then force them to try and one-up him. No, he'd upset the pro-life crowd then.
Starting point is 00:40:27 They're already mad the way it is. And they got what they want with Roe versus Wade, and they just want more and more and more. I don't understand their policy. But that's the thinking. Because they want there to be panic. That's the big thing. They want women to be so scared that anyone who is Republican, whether it's Trump or anyone who runs for and after him, anyone who runs on the state level and is endorsed by Trump
Starting point is 00:40:47 or vaguely reminds them of all of any sort of Republican man, they are actually a threat to your personal safety because you vote differently when you think you're under direct attack. And they have only been able to sell this, especially to women,
Starting point is 00:40:59 with the abortion issue, which is also stupid, but that's a complaint against women, not against Democrats. Trump's trying to play the moderate and it might be a good play, but he has to stabilize. He had, like, you know, yesterday saying six weeks is too short, now saying, no, no, I'm going to vote no on it. It's relatively vague, but he needs to just be a stable, moderate candidate where he,
Starting point is 00:41:22 like, I don't think abortion matters to most moderates i i don't think abortion is a top issue we would already know it's a top issue it never was it's crime it's the economy it's the border those are his best issues they're dragging something up that's at the bottom of the list because this is the only thing kamala harris knows how to talk about yeah he probably shouldn't have commented on on he's going to vote in Florida. That's really no one's business. But the IVF thing, too, is kind of weird, right? Yeah. What do you mean? Well, he wants the government to pay for IVF. Why announce that? That's a radical policy. I think that's a good thing because I agree with it. And Vance has kind of a stigma, which I don't think is deserved, that he's IVF and I think I think both of those are
Starting point is 00:42:05 good things to come out and and say and I actually am pro-IVF uh unlike a lot of pro-life people so I again I don't know I think it's something you can show to someone be like actually he wants insurance to pay for IVF but I just don't see that as a big issue that wins over voters to say that who's he targeting I don't think about it at all issue that wins over voters to say that, who is he targeting? I don't think about it at all. That's why they're expanding the abortion issue, right? Like IVF only became an issue because they still wanted to talk about abortion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Right. But they're not talking about birth control access, right? No one is arguing. If Democrats really cared about women or any of this, instead of pushing for IVF, they would talk about all of the lack of information women have when it comes to birth control, right? And they would talk about that nonstop. But it's not about that.
Starting point is 00:42:44 It's about fear. Why doesn't why doesn't Trump just come out and say, we're going to make the government pay for your house. It's a free house. We're going to build more. Why? If you're going to if you're never government pay for anything. And we're talking about IVF treatments that some say people say it's 40 or 100 grand.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Yeah. Sure. Trump says we're going to buy you a house. If Kamala Harris wants to play the game, we're going to pay for student loans, despite the Supreme Court saying no. Trump should either play that game or not play this game at all. I was listening to this report today talking about Trump saying that that he would be for the government paying for IVF. And this reporter was like, that would cost something like seven billion dollars. And meanwhile, the Biden student loan plan that just got blocked by a judge would cost $230 billion.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Like, I don't know if the government should be involved in subsizing everything. I'm actually not against IVF. I just think we need to think about it ethically and be critical of it. But you're saying that he is going to spend $7 billion to create potentially families in America. Meanwhile, you're just authorizing Joe Biden to give away 230. Like, it doesn't make any sense. There's no logic.
Starting point is 00:43:49 It was really funny when he was at this rally earlier and he was like, we need more babies, more babies. I was like, actually, that was really funny. If nothing else, he's taking back IVF from the Democrats because they act like they own IVF and they don't. It's not abortion at all. There's a fundamental difference between trying to create a life and intentionally destroying one. And so at least he's taking back and acting like, no, actually, Republicans, we can own IVF, too.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And it's not just Democrats. I think I think it's a good thing. And we do need more families. And I think fertility, infertility impacts a lot. I just think we should talk about it all the time. I don't necessarily think, you know, I actually feel like IVF is such an important issue in infertility in America that it shouldn't become a political thing. I get why, you know, they're latching on to it. But it's a big deal, the fact that our birth rates are declining. It's a big deal that people are struggling with infertility. And, you know, I'm not anti the science that goes behind all of these things. I just think we have to talk about it more.
Starting point is 00:44:47 And I think there's a level of shame that goes with infertility where we don't. But that, again, it's like this emotional tactic that Democrats have sort of employed to be like, they're trying to take something from you and we're the only ones who are going to protect you. And I just, I don't understand how that can be appealing to voters,
Starting point is 00:45:02 but I was never a Democrat. Just last night, real quick, we had two great super chats that called in and IVF really helped them. You know, they're on our team and they really appreciated IVF and how they helped them. I think I heard that actually listening to that. And it's very sweet. I mean, IVF changes lives. And, you know, I know that embryos are destroyed. But at the end of the day, I think morally there's a fundamental difference between intentionally destroying a life because you carelessly had relations because we all know what that leads to versus trying to and desperately hoping that each embryo implants.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I don't think they should be destroyed. I think we should do embryo adoption. But, yeah, fundamentally, there's a difference there. And I don't think we need to be so puritanical as conservatives. But that's just my opinion. Let's let's jump to this story. We have a tweet from Jack Posobiec. He says, breaking.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Gold star family member confirms Biden and Kamala were invited to the Arlington Memorial Service. Quote, we never heard back from them. This story was big. Donald Trump, he lays a wreath down in honor of these 13 service members who died in Afghanistan. Kamala Harris, Joe Biden are nowhere to be found. Biden's on vacation. Kamala's MIA. Who knows what she's doing? And this was really, really bad in the news cycle for them.
Starting point is 00:46:11 So what happens? Instantly, the mass media jumps to attention and claims several things. One, Trump's people were fighting with with personnel there and there was an altercation. Another was that he was taking pictures of gravestones at the permission of other families. They said, how dare you use the cemetery as a campaign prop? Oh, look at him giving a thumbs up. They had to turn it into a bad thing because Biden and Kamala were not there. We even got this from CNN. U.S. Army rebukes Trump campaign for incident at Arlington National Cemetery. The funny thing is, with all this criticism, Joe Biden did a campaign event at the cemetery as well. People are sharing those photos. It is so bad that Kamala and Biden snubbed these families.
Starting point is 00:46:54 They had to. They are responsible for the deaths that the media jumped to their defense and made it a bad thing that Trump was honoring fallen troops. Can you believe that? I suppose, yes, easily. I was going to say. It's impressive, but also on brand for them. I mean, it is sort of the spin you would expect. It was interesting. I've seen a couple interviews with Gold Star families who have said, we invited Trump, we wanted him to be there.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Or when he was asked about the picture thing, he was like, look, I don't know anything about it. Like, I just told the families if they wanted to take a picture we could um and it seems kind of pathetic that this is the criticism the person who went and honored the the families of the fallen is the villain to the mainstream media whereas Joe Biden who's hanging out on the beach in Delaware which might remind everyone is in driving distance of of arlington national cemetery and kamal harris who i think was at the white house that day just didn't show up at all they didn't even respond that's that's he's the cause of it it's his that's why he can't go yeah i know face of reality i hate yes well i'm pretty sure if you well i mean if you if you were an honest
Starting point is 00:48:01 person you would be more concerned with why your candidate or the current president is not there than with Trump being there and possibly disbehaving or whatever it is misbehaving. I you would be more concerned with your own candidate and their absence. But this is the guy who I'm pretty sure if you look up Snopes fact check, it says he checked his watch during that ceremony. Right. Biden checked his watch during. And that is fact check true by and it was confirmed in like jen pisaki's book right i mean it's it's just pathetic how much they touched well i think she lied about it in her in her book despite the fact that yeah yeah but and
Starting point is 00:48:34 i've uh i don't remember uh there was a tiktok i shared recently from a wife um who her husband died not uh in the pullout from afghanistan she said also Biden was not there when they brought his body home. So, I mean, it's like a repeated thing here. And it looks awful. It is awful. We had a guest on the show a couple weeks ago, Buzz, who was talking about how Hillary Clinton just didn't really respect the military. Buzz Patterson. Buzz Patterson.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And he was talking about how she didn't really want the military members who were in the White House to wear the uniform. And I actually feel like I see that attitude reflected in a lot of younger Democrats. There's sort of a level of like I don't want to say disgust with the military, but there's some kind of like they look down on it. They don't want to talk about it. They're not interested. They don't see any sort of like patriotic duty or any any sort of level of necessary respect. Do you think that's one of the reasons Democratic voters don't pick up on why this spin is so disrespectful to the families of the soldiers? I think that on the other side, there is a fundamental lack of respect and appreciation for this country. The first time I ever felt patriotic and I'm not proud of this, I'm ashamed of it, was when I walked away from the Democratic Party. I didn't feel pride in my
Starting point is 00:49:48 country before that. And again, I want to emphasize that this wasn't like an overnight shift where I just jumped from one pot to the other. But it was like exciting. For the first time in my life, I felt proud. I bought all this like patriotic gear. And I had never felt that before. And I'm just, I think a lot of people from my generation are like that i mean maybe it's also a regional thing like i said they do not respect this country democrats they don't don't have a lot of them do not i won't say every single one they they don't respect this country i well i i saw um i watched an advanced screening of am I Racist? the other night. I won't give away any spoilers or anything.
Starting point is 00:50:29 He goes to race to dinner, which is something that I'm sure you guys have heard of. It's two women who come and shame white women. You cook a black woman and a brown woman dinner and they tell you how racist you are. One of these women i i don't remember her name so i'm gonna butcher it so i won't say it but she comes right out and says and it's not the first time she says it but she says it in the documentary that this country is trash there's nothing worth saving i think that is something that is rampant on that side and that's why they want to burn it all down so i think that ties into
Starting point is 00:51:05 this lack of respect for the military but then of course they want to grandstand that they are the ones respecting wouldn't it been nice if they all showed up kamala and trump you know everyone you know what's funny is uh but we have uh one of one of our the people who handles bookings uh for our various shows sent me just like here's a list of people that we've reached out to who are on the left. They will not do it. It's funny. Libertarians hate Trump
Starting point is 00:51:32 and they absolutely will come on the show. They often request to come on the show and they will sit here and they will talk about why they do not like Donald Trump and everything he did wrong and Clint Russell will argue with me over it. He has no issue whatsoever defending his worldview. He is steadfast in his beliefs.
Starting point is 00:51:51 He's done the research. He knows what he's talking about. And then we disagree on what the ultimate, like what are the best moves to make. And liberals won't go anywhere near it. It's fascinating to me because that shows something. When you have these Mises caucus type libertarians who are like Trump is bad and here's why. And I'm like, wow, you make some really great points. However, I'll counter with these points and I'll say, well, you know, I can respect that, but I just can't get myself to that point because I think Trump
Starting point is 00:52:15 does a bad thing. Liberals don't know anything about what's going on. You're allowed to dislike Trump. You don't have to like the guy. But their rationale for not liking him is is is nonsense. It's fake. So when they go on social media and they post garbled trash saying Trump is bad for these reasons. And then I say, hey, how about I fly you out? You sit down and we have a conversation. They go, nope, because they know they don't know what they're talking about. And if they sit down in this chair and I pull up the article, they're going to go, oops, I was wrong about that. And that's the funny thing about the libertarians is is there the response from like, I love this Dave Smith. I say Abraham Accords and Dave Smith says, I think those were bad. And here's why. I was a story I told is that there was one guy
Starting point is 00:53:00 who was Trump derangement syndrome that I had met when I was in D.C. And he says he's like a Trump supporter. He's like, name one thing he's done. One thing he's done. And I said, Abraham Accords. And he goes, you can't even name one thing. And everyone looks. And I was like, I just said the Abraham Accords.
Starting point is 00:53:14 You want me to go through a list of all the other things that he did I think are good? And the guy was like, you can't name one thing. One thing. And then he wouldn't even look at me. He turns around. His brain doesn't work. Dave Smith says the Abraham Accords put pressure on Gaza and Palestine. It cut them out of the negotiations. And then it created this moment where, of course, they were going to go nuclear. And then it puts pressure on Iran,
Starting point is 00:53:36 and it bubbles up the tensions. I don't want to misrepresent his views, but he ultimately said something to the effect of this, and that the Abraham Accords were not ultimately good. And then I disagreed with him. But I have tremendous respect for anybody who wants to come on and say, I just genuinely don't agree it was a good thing. And I can give you my exact reasoning. The difference is the overlap between the Mises caucus libertarians and MAGA is overwhelming. The overlap is overwhelming. And so now the Mises caucus guys, I don't know, probably not not Dave, but most, I think most of them are saying they're probably gonna vote for Trump or at least many of the prominent ones are saying we're voting for Trump. Even RFK Jr. and his Democrat cohorts are voting for Donald Trump. It is insane to me, but it is the reality
Starting point is 00:54:17 that the left is the cult and the evidence you need is that they are unwilling to step outside the confines of their cult. You're so correct that they're uninformed. And that's why I don't think they're evil. You know, I think the people at the top are evil, but people are really, really uninformed. And they think they're on the right side of history and they're doing the compassionate thing. But that would be, you could argue the individual is not evil, but it's still the banality of evil. Exactly. At a certain point, like we kind of have to be aware where these are critical times. And I get that it's hard,
Starting point is 00:54:46 but it's also, it's very hard to realize everything that you believe is a lie. It kind of feels like you're on drugs. You know, like it's hard to just realize, it's scary to realize you've been lied to and you're wrong about everything.
Starting point is 00:54:57 And I think it's easier to just believe Trump's evil and we're evil. That being said, look, the right certainly has their people too. Of course. Who are weirdos. But I'll tell you a funny story. I just heard that we're evil. That being said, look, the right certainly has their people too. Of course. Who are, you know, weirdos.
Starting point is 00:55:06 But I'll tell you a funny story. I just heard that we're doing, we're planning a big DC debate show and we're trying to book members of Congress. And apparently the people that we're working with who work with some of the big names,
Starting point is 00:55:16 the big members of Congress who are friends and fans of the show are hearing from rank and file Republicans, like, isn't Tim anti-Trump now? And they were like, why? Like, what? Like, what? Because like the RFK Jr. tweet or something like, and I'm just, my immediate reaction was, you should tell them if any member of Congress says to any of our people, isn't, isn't Tim anti-Trump now? When they're being asked to come on the show, the response should go, and?
Starting point is 00:55:43 Why should that matter? Do you want to go on a prominent podcast and discuss why Trump is correct or why your policies are correct? Does it matter if you're going to be arguing with someone who thinks you're wrong? Yeah, you know, there are weak willed people. But I look at it like tendencies. And, you know, the religion argument, actually, we talked about this this morning. I said a lot of atheists are arguing against stupid theists and not smart theists. And so they often say things like, I just don't believe in fairy tales, which about, say, like the logos of the universe and the structure and nature of reality. But it's fair to say that just because someone is voting for Trump doesn't mean they know at all what they're talking about or that they are smart or correct in any way. And so, you know, the challenge then becomes for a lot of these Democrats, that's who their target is going to be. They're going to see 10,000 of the stupidest Trump supporters,
Starting point is 00:56:47 and they're going to hyper-focus on that. The reality, though, it's a tendency. On the right, there are relatively few people compared to the left who are uninformed about why they're voting. But they exist. And you'll see the men on the street interviews where they're like, Trump's good because he's going to bring freedom. And then they go, oh, this person's so dumb.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Well, you know, maybe that person is dumb, but at least they're accidentally in the right direction. The Democrats overwhelmingly are ignorant about what's going on and unwilling to correct it. And those people that might be dumb, they're going to wear American flags and they're going to root for America. They're going to root for not wars, whereas their side is not on that side at all. They're not rooting for a common good. Yeah. I was going to say disgusting earlier when you said what word you're going to kind of think of because my experience with folks on that side when they find out them veteran they are fucking they are very vitriol yeah that's my board i was going to use my brother told me the story one time he he was in the marine corps and uh he was in uniform i think he was on leave
Starting point is 00:57:42 traveling through the atlanta airport and some woman came and like threw a drink on him, which I was just like, why? That's crazy. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't – he was like, I don't know. I just kept walking. But it is interesting and that was over a decade ago at this point. come out more publicly with with being conservative or you know with with the shift in your political views do you get people from your life from you know your past as more of democrat who like will sort of whisper to the side like yeah i kind of think that makes sense or like have some kind
Starting point is 00:58:17 of wanting to talk about the other side or for the most part do do your friends kind of ignore the political transition oh no i have no friends i have? Oh, no, I have no friends. I have no friends. You always had no friends? You lost them since you moved over? No, yeah, I've lost everyone. Yeah, I mean, you know, there's actually a strong conservative patriot movement in L.A. I feel like when you're behind the belly of the beast, you kind of get more close-knit. But no, I have never heard anyone say, you know what, you might be right. Maybe they say it to themselves at night as they comment about me viciously.
Starting point is 00:58:48 I don't know. I don't know either. I grew up, you know, I feel like we had kind of opposite experiences because I grew up in Connecticut, which was always blue. And so all of my friends growing up were default Democrats and a lot of them still are. And so I felt like I was always the odd person by being conservative or libertarian leaning. It must I think they must have gotten used to me. So I feel like the conversations are more peaceful because I was just always like this. But are they still able to be your friend, though?
Starting point is 00:59:16 Because I feel like now everything depends. Oh, it depends. I have some that are and like we don't talk about it or they're like, I don't know. Things are very weird or they're helpful because I don't always know what the perspective is and they are they're open to talking with me like well this is why he feels way about this issue uh but i do have there's one in particular like childhood friend who got super radical and i remember last year uh i was visiting her and she held it in for a long time and then like burst out like just you say so much stuff i agree with and i don't understand how you can be a republican and i was like well i don't know well you say
Starting point is 00:59:49 so much and then we got to this crazy conversation about trans stuff where she told me that top surgery wasn't a double mastectomy i was like i don't think you know what top surgery is what do you think they're like another she says it's something else i was like they cut off the shoulders like what are you talking about uh it was a very it was a difficult conversation because What do you think? Is there like another? She says it's something else. I was like, do they cut off the shoulders? Pop hat? Did you take the pop hat off? It was a very, it was a difficult conversation because it's so emotional on one side. You're like, well, let me present you with some facts. And they're like, I don't want to hear it.
Starting point is 01:00:13 You've upset me. And I don't, I can't talk about that. And that's the challenge with, you know, we're talking about the IV thing, IVF, sorry, where Trump is saying he's for it. You can try and show it to your family members. But the reality is a lot of them are going to go, he's lying. I don't care. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:24 A hundred percent. That's my, this weekend. That'll But the reality is a lot of them are going to go, he's lying. I don't care. Oh, yeah. A hundred percent. That's my this weekend. That'll be this weekend. Labor Day. It's going to be fun Labor Day weekend with the family. It's not Thanksgiving, but, you know, it's close. Because it is hard to accept that you're wrong. It's so hard.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I think that's part of why COVID was the way it was, because it's scarier to think people in big positions of power are lying to us than it is to be afraid of a virus almost it's there's scary stuff going on and if you have blinders on and you're ignorant i feel like you feel don't you think that that feels good kind of yeah i think um yeah i don't think it is hard to be wrong for the majority of the people on the right right i have zero issue with that jordan peterson's a great example i absolutely love this about him when he did that interview with that that trashy comedian and he said should businesses be required uh to you know adhere to like someone's pronouns or whatever and he's like
Starting point is 01:01:16 no they shouldn't have to do that you shouldn't you a business should be allowed to kick anybody out if they want to and not service them and And then he says, what about if they're black? What about black people? And then Jordan Peterson goes, well, maybe I was wrong about that. Just like that. He was like, oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. Maybe I was wrong. It just, it was that easy for him to be like, ah, I hadn't considered that. Yeah. But it's these TDS sufferers who will not, they, they, they will not accept that you're showing them the proof. Like, uh, shout out to, uh, CKY, the band and Jess Margera. Uh, Like, shout out to CKY, the band, and Jess Margera. So I've listened to CKY since I was a kid, right? You know, the Bam Margera MTV era.
Starting point is 01:01:52 And he posts, he's always posting this anti-Trump stuff and I'm always responding to him because I'm a big fan of their band. They're legend, they're epic. And so I told him, I was like, dude, CKY is too good for you to be posting this nonsense. Like, I am gonna tweet at you, invite him on the show. But anyway, in one of the too good for you to be posting this nonsense. Like, I am going to tweet at you. Invite him on the show. But anyway, he's in one of the conversations.
Starting point is 01:02:07 He responds to someone else. Someone responds saying, you know, these Trump supporters will defend him no matter what. You can bring up that he's flying around on Epstein's plane and they won't accept it. They'll claim it's fake news. And then I said something like, interesting. Come on the show. Let's talk about it. And then he posts a link to the story from Newsweek saying, you know, Donald Trump is flying on a refurbished Jeff Epstein plane. And he goes,
Starting point is 01:02:30 is this true? I said, yes, it's real. Now come on the show. Like, I don't know what you think I'm going to say. Like, there's a news story that says Trump is doing it. OK, let's have the conversation. It is the other side that will tell you, no, Trump's lying. It's fake. Oh, absolutely. I mean, look at how so many of us didn't take the medical therapy that Trump continues to push. We are not a cult. We do not do. Yes, exactly. We do not do everything he says. We're not a cult. It's not just that. The greatest evidence against the cult, a good example, as you mentioned, the vaccines, his own audience at rallies boo him over this, which is that is big evidence. But it's the it's the primary. It's Vivek, Nikki and Rhonda Santus. And it was a brutal primary
Starting point is 01:03:11 where the right was in disarray over who the nominee should be. And then afterwards, I'll give a shout out to Defiant Else. That's a really great Instagram and Twitter account. But they got one bad one. They get some bad ones. And it was a guy who tweeted, screw you, MAGA people. I will never vote for Trump. I don't care. Blah, blah, blah. You guys have you know, it's your fault. And then two days later, he says, I have no choice. I'm going to be voting for Donald Trump. And they called that an L. And I'm like, that's a win. Yeah, that that is a man recognizing he's between a rock and a hard place. And he's making a difficult decision, which is what strong willed people must do. And he later responded to it saying, I do not like Trump, but I recognize the threat to this country and I'm willing to overcome my
Starting point is 01:03:54 own emotions and anger to support the man that I think will do a better job, even though I'm not a fan of his. That's a win. That's a win right there. Yeah. I mean, this is kind of tertiary, but I sometimes get like, why did it take you so long? I think we welcome everyone until the day God says it's over and we're all out of here. Like it is not too late and you welcome everybody because we are becoming the umbrella party. And I, that is a wonderful thing, I think. Yeah. And this is why I was very irked by the, the insulting of Joe Rogan. Even Trump on Truth Social saying he's going to get booed or whatever. And it's funny because, you know, give a shout out to whoever. We had two members email, two, saying like, you know, how dare you insult these people, whatever. I'm
Starting point is 01:04:35 not going to be a member anymore. And I was just like, whatever, dude. Thank you for your support up until this point. But I'm not going to sit here and entertain Trump supporters attacking moderates. We're trying to win, man. We're supposed to be the ones saying, like, come over here and have a beer with us while the Democrats are screeching, fall in line or else. Yeah, that has been disappointing. And there's been a few people I've seen who are criticizing him for surrounding himself with Democrats, with Tulsi and RFK.
Starting point is 01:05:06 And it's just we're gaining more than we're losing. The very small conservative religious people who I actually agree with, the ones we're losing, they do not compare to the ones we're gaining. And so I'm for it. RFK Jr. is tremendous. It is fascinating to see. I don't know if you guys saw Nicole Shanahan
Starting point is 01:05:22 put together this video about TDS. Her team's always working, she said. Let me pull this one up so I can play it for you guys. Nicole Shanahan put together this video about TDS. Her team's always working, she said. It's so good. Yeah, let me pull this one up so I can play it for you guys. They got like $2 million, $3 million within an hour or three. She's been kind of a sleeper hit for me. Yeah, yeah. When they announced her, I was like, but who and what?
Starting point is 01:05:37 Yeah. But she's really interesting when she's interviewed. She's coming through in the clutch. All right, so we're going to play this. This is a commercial, a fake commercial. This was made by Nicole Shanahan. This is RFK Jr.'s VP candidate. And she said, my team never sleeps.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And they made this. Are you or your loved ones suffering from illnesses such as TDS, also known as Trump derangement syndrome? Do you dismiss or deny the current issues facing our country, such as historic inflation, illegal immigration, corporate corruption, World War III escalations, and the chronic disease epidemic? Are you willing to elect someone who was the least popular vice president in modern history and who offers no policy or vision for America simply because your brain keeps telling you anyone but Trump? If so, you might be struggling from TDS. Introducing independence.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Independence allows you the freedom to finally think independently once again. Instead of believing everything you hear from the mainstream media, independence allows for constructive critical thinking. I used to hear people on the news say things like, Donald Trump and the movement he has encouraged are a threat to democracy.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And I instantly believed it. With independence, I now realize the media is run by the Democrat elite, who are a corrupt oligarchy that censors free speech, silences political opponents, supports forever wars, and abandons democracy by anointing its candidates. Independence may not be for everyone. If you enjoy being lied to about your president's cognitive abilities,
Starting point is 01:07:06 support Orwellian totalitarianism, or are excited about communist fiscal policy, independence may not be right for you. Common side effects of independence may include an awakening of rational thought, successfully identifying propaganda, freedom of choice, loss of hatred, anti-narcissistic behavior, and love of democracy. I used to blindly hate whoever my party was running against. I didn't care about facts or policy because I was hopelessly indoctrinated. With independence, I'm much more interested in policies that uphold democracy, and I truly care about the health of our country and its citizens.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Ask your doctor if independence is right for you and enjoy your freedoms once again. I just want to point out how I love that Democrats radicalized RFK Jr. Yeah. Like he was trying to run as a Democrat. He called Columbus Day Indigenous People's Day. He got relatively irked that I brought that up and said, oh, you're losing your credibility when you say that. I don't know. And he's progressive.
Starting point is 01:08:04 He was for gun control. He runs as a Democrat. The Democrats cheat, keep him and Shanahan off, sue them into oblivion to block them, and basically, it wasn't a... I don't want to say the joke.
Starting point is 01:08:17 It's crass, okay? But they say, in this instance, you don't call it a red pill. You'd call it something else, but let's just call it a big red pill. Let's call it that.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Sorry. Okay, I'll just tell you. They call it a red pill you'd call it something else but it was a let's just let's just call it a big red pill let's call it that okay i'll just tell you they call it the red suppository oh when when you get red pilled in a short amount of time to an extreme degree okay sure they're basically saying the democrats took it and just you know right up yep okay but for real it's like rfk has been going at this for less than a year, right? Like his campaign, he was trying to run in a primary and he would have won a primary. And so they colluded to keep him out. And then they try to censor him. They censored him during COVID. And he's sitting here being like, what is going on? Trying to take off the ballot.
Starting point is 01:08:59 But I think Shanahan's the stronger red-pilled voice. 4.4 million views on this commercial. Who knew she was—I had no idea she was this based. She's an independent. She's moderate, right? And so she wants to run as a Democrat, and the Democrats lie, cheat, steal, censor, support Big Pharma, do all these things. And then I think they just snapped. They were just like, MAGA.
Starting point is 01:09:22 RFK tweeted what MAGA was. I think you can hear it in her voice. Like when she did the interview right before RFK withdrew, she sounds like betrayed. Like the party that you had been, the party that she had patron, that she had supported, that they it wasn't just like, oh, we don't like you. We're not going to support you. They went above and beyond to make it more difficult and to try and bring down their efforts because their conversations, I guess, the Democrats don't have. I mean, every single walkaway story has betrayal as the common theme, whether they say it or not, is what that's what it feels like, because you felt like you were on
Starting point is 01:09:57 the right side. This is the party of compassion. We're for women. We're for minorities. It's a betrayal. It feels like a punch in the gut. And that's why whether you call it a walkaway story or not, like that's that's a common thing. And it's like what Elon Musk said that I didn't leave the party or whatever that meme that he posted. I mean, yeah, Democrats are radicalizing people to be, quote unquote, right wing, whatever that means, just to be not Democrats anymore. So maybe they're pulling an Ozymandias from Watchmen. You guys know that reference? No. So spoiler alert for a graphic novel from the 80s. He simulates an alien invasion killing tens of millions of people to end the Cold War. So he intentionally, then he plays the villain.
Starting point is 01:10:36 But for the purpose of forcing, you know. So it's something good they're doing for us. I mean, he's evil. Oh, okay. Yeah, he murders. It's utilitarianism in this story. He simulates an alien invasion because the U.S. and Soviet Union are on the verge of nuclear annihilation. And so by having an alien attack the world, it forces the U.S. and Soviet Union to unite against a common enemy.
Starting point is 01:10:59 And so maybe Democrats just seem so apocalyptically bad and evil. It's because they're trying to unite liberal and conservative Americans. Because like the fact that RFK Jr., a Kennedy, is now endorsing a Republican and Trump is a moderate himself. And these former Democrats are all now coming out and supporting Trump. Maybe the end result is the factions of America that were liberal and conservative are now unified. I don't know. So they know aliens are going to invade us in not too long.
Starting point is 01:11:28 They see them coming. So this is our plan. We got a 10-year plan to get the world together. So what we're going to do is we're going to, you know, go radical. They're not going to unite us. Aliens will not unite us at this point. I hope those onlies are only to distract from what Hunter Biden is doing.
Starting point is 01:11:44 We haven't had one in a while. I don't think aliens are coming. I'm thinking I would not be surprised considering how miserably Democrats have been behaving like acting that if someone came to me and said that leadership in the Democratic Party intentionally is sabotaging everything to force as many people into one political party as possible, I'd believe it. Oh, and then take over that and go total totalitarian. Sure, possibly. But they're turning the Republican Party into the Big Tent Party. Exactly. I don't know why you'd do
Starting point is 01:12:14 that. And I'm like, is it an accident? Probably, I guess. I mean, the simple solution is that they're just really dumb. It's a very losing strategy. Maybe. But the thing ultimately comes down to procedure. The election is not about the argument. ultimately comes down to procedure. The election is not about the argument. The election is about procedure.
Starting point is 01:12:30 And that's the frustrating thing about Trump being like, I'm going to be this for this policy or that policy. The reason why Kamala Harris sounds like a bumbling moron who spits and sputters and has no idea what she's talking about is because, you know what she should do? When she does her next interview, she should just be like half glazed over, just not really paying attention. And when they're like, what's your plan
Starting point is 01:12:50 for the first, you know, 100 days? I don't have one. And they're going to go, you don't have one? No, that's not a message to going to help you win votes. What do I need to win votes for? Well, you're trying to win the election, right? We're going to win the election. Okay, well, don't you need to convince people? No, we're going to knock on their door, tell them to fill out their mail-in ballot, and we're trying to win the election, right? We're going to win the election. Okay, well, don't you need to convince people?
Starting point is 01:13:05 No. We're going to knock on their door, tell them to fill out their mail-in ballot, and we're going to win. So I could literally stand here right now and tell you I don't care about the American people. Don't matter. We're going to knock on their door. They're not going to hear any of this interview. No one's going to care. And then they're going to vote for me.
Starting point is 01:13:18 That is actually truer than it should be. Yep. But they have to keep up appearances. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't seem like they're trying, but they try, I guess. I would love to do that at some point. I mean, maybe if my life took a different arc, eventually just climb my way up into a political party, run for office and then just totally go nuts and then just be like, yeah, we're basically here to steal power. The goal of my campaign is so that I can get insider information and control policy that will allow my friends in Congress and the Senate to stock trade beneficially to their for their families. And then we're all going to get property at Martha's Vineyard and we're going to enjoy, I don't know, like a 200 dollar bottle of champagne.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And the middle class can screw off for all I care. It's so sad, though, because you are actually so I mean, more right than ever that nobody voted for this person. And here we are like that is crazy. That is crazy that not a single American voted for this person. For Harris. Implementation. Yeah. So it is true that no matter what she does, no matter what she says, no matter what her policies are, that's their girl.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Ballot harvest. That's nuts. If Trump can't win on procedure, which is the only thing that matters, he can't win. And then the best thing is she. So you do an interview and this would be a great mock interview right just like it to make to make a point the interviewer says okay well i mean what if this interview does actually end up going viral and people end up hating you and despising you over it my response is oh i mean it doesn't matter the the governors and the judges in these swing states are are going to shift things in our favor no matter what happens. No matter what any Republican does, if they file a lawsuit challenging the results, our ballot harvesters are going to mass produce and sometimes rerun the ballots twice.
Starting point is 01:14:53 And then if you file a lawsuit, the Democrat judge who's on our side and wants me to win will just tell you to screw off and you can't do anything about it. And then we'll just arrest anybody who tries to stop us. Next question. Did you hear about Pennsylvania? That they're counting, they ruled that they're counting ballots that are not dated or dated differently? Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. So that's another loss.
Starting point is 01:15:13 And that's, well, there's one reason to do that. A what? Help here. Besides cheating? No, no, there's only one reason. What is there? There's only one reason to count ballots that have incorrect dates. And it is that if the total comes in against you and you've lost, you can then bring in ballots afterwards with no dates.
Starting point is 01:15:33 And then there you go. Count those. In the CNN interview, they referred to Pennsylvania as a must-win state for Kamala Harris. I mean, whatever happens procedurally in Pennsylvania is really important because, you know, Trump has a path to victory through the other states. She needs Pennsylvania. Yeah. Yep. Nate Silver said that if she does not win Pennsylvania,
Starting point is 01:15:57 her chance of winning is 4%. And my insight as a Pennsylvanian is it's 50-50. Still, nothing's really changed. If you're voting for Dem, you're voting for Dem. If you're voting for R, you're voting for R. No one I know has changed. Maybe my dad might, because he watched IRL now a little bit since I'm here, so
Starting point is 01:16:16 a little convincing. So we might got two extras. It's a really good idea. All we have to do is bring on people whose families are Democrats onto the show. Yeah. That's it. It's going to work. Because you're like, oh, my parents are Democrats. Then you come on the show and now your parents watch the show.
Starting point is 01:16:31 And they understand the truth. They're like, wait a second. That's not what's going on in real life. Well, listen, I've got some Democrat siblings, so maybe we're going to get two for here. We're in California, so we need Pennsylvania-specific people. I'm just kidding. We're not using the show to lobby. we're in California so we need Pennsylvania specific people I'm just kidding we're not using the show to lobby
Starting point is 01:16:49 you said at the beginning of the show that you were an atheist but you're not an atheist now no what happened there how did you move from being an atheist to not atheist it's weird my political shift came first it was just listening to conservative voices honestly a lot of actually Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager,
Starting point is 01:17:06 who are not Christians. But you are Christian now? I am Christian, yeah. I was unhappy in my life before COVID, and I was feeling very purposeless and unfulfilled. So there was that emptiness before COVID, and I feel like COVID highlighted the cracks that were already there. The response to COVID, I'm sorry, I should be clear. I don't like when people do that. The response to COVID highlighted the cracks that were already there, the response to COVID, I'm sorry, I should be clear. I don't like when people do that. The response to COVID highlighted the cracks that were already there. And I just kind of started listening to these different voices and I realized, oh, there's actually a different way to live. There's a better way to live. There's a way to live with more wisdom. And I became a Christian because I was listening to so many conservative people.
Starting point is 01:17:41 And it was very hard to go back to church because they were all closed in LA. A lot of them were, there was one that I know of that, uh, that fought and stayed open. Interesting how that happened when people were starting to reevaluate their lives. Yeah. That was a big mistake. When you started hearing from, I mean, Prager and Shapiro, they're Jewish. Yeah. Were they making arguments for God that was convincing and compelling to you? Yeah. That for God and really just for, I think, a different way to live, because I knew the way that I was living was not correct.
Starting point is 01:18:12 And so I, because I couldn't go to church, I just started, I was raised Catholic. I should say that, but I had left for a very long time. So I just started opening my Bible. It was just being around this culture, not that, oh, this is what I have to do, but just these people seem happier. They seem more joyful, to use the word of the hour. And they seem more fulfilled in their lives. I want what they are having, and that is God.
Starting point is 01:18:35 You know? Why are you laughing at me? No, that's a good feeling. It's good. It's nice to have a warm heart. I agree. And that's why we do have to be Christians. We already know this, but Christians need to be in politics because sometimes, like me, I'm not,
Starting point is 01:18:49 I was not a Christian first, and then I was like, well, obviously I'm going to vote Republican. I was a conservative first, a Republican, or I started leaning this way, and then I became Christian. So sometimes the switch is reversed, and so we shouldn't discount being in the culture war and being in politics, because I think that the way policies happen, it brings people to God. It wins souls for Christ. I mean, it did with me, you know? There you go. Yeah. I'm not a Christian, but I think with wisdom and actually trying to listen and understand and understand the reality comes and a better understanding of God. And so it's weird that people like there's a lot of people that tweet that I'm an atheist.
Starting point is 01:19:28 And it's like the weirdest thing because I'm like a fervent pro God, but just not in any organized religion. I mean, they tweet everything about you. So yeah, whatever. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. No, if you like conservatives, you're not an atheist. Conservatives calling me an atheist is the weirdest thing.
Starting point is 01:19:43 It's just people. It may be because... People want to whine. But it's because I don't follow Christianity. And so they view that as atheism, I guess. I don't know. I'm a really bad Christian. You know, I'm bad.
Starting point is 01:19:52 So maybe I'm more like you. I don't know what I believe. But I, yeah, you know. Do you go to church? I do, but not as frequently as I should. Honestly, the churches being closed in LA really did a number on me. I can't really stomach that. All the Catholic churches were closed.
Starting point is 01:20:07 I have a problem with that. Pardon me. I love church. I grew up going to Catholic Mass, and I have fond memories of everyone's there. They were singing. On Sunday, they would have a potluck afterwards. They were very fun family things. I'm just not a Christian.
Starting point is 01:20:23 I don't feel it would be right for me to go and attend something as a community thing. But this is why when we're doing the coffee shop stuff, I want to make, I want to get these locations as many as we can all over the country to create a place for people to congregate. You know, there's a lot of people who don't go to church, a lot of people who aren't Christian necessarily. I think Christians probably would appreciate non-Christians coming to church. Absolutely. It's a step towards conversion. Yeah. But I think a halfway point would be we want to do this thing called Saturday morning cartoons. Open the cafe, bring your family, bring your kids, 6 a.m., 7 a.m. or whatever,
Starting point is 01:20:55 and there's going to be a catering sandwich, you know, like pancake sausage eggs, and the kids can play and watch wholesome content, but then the parents get to meet each other. We need that in our communities. That's why I think we talked about this a long time ago too, whether or not you believe in God, church, I believe, is a necessary function for a functioning society. It brings the community together. They're talking to each other. They're sharing ideas. They're sharing concerns.
Starting point is 01:21:20 And that creates a unified local culture. Yeah. And at the end of the day, like, we're all bad Christians. I mean, that's the whole idea behind being a Christian. So absolutely come to church, even if you're not a believer, I would say. I think people crave purpose and structure. Yeah. You'll hear, you know, there's a whole line of books now.
Starting point is 01:21:39 You can look for books that are like, how do I find what to do with my life or discern whatever? And, you know, maybe if you're discerning a career, that makes sense. But I think for a lot of people, what they're actually missing is a moral structure through which to navigate the world. And I think when, you know, I understand why so many people are disenfranchised with religion. I understand, you know, there are definitely churches that have hurt people and create a bad rap. But I think alternatively having nothing is worse because you are so lost without something to guide you. Oh, yeah. Let's jump to this from the AP.
Starting point is 01:22:13 This is one of the biggest stories of the day. We saved it for the last. From the AP News, top Brazilian judge orders suspension of X platform in Brazil amid feud with Musk. Additionally, Brazil institutes a $9,000 per day fine for anyone who uses a VPN to access X. This is absolutely insane. The government of Brazil has gone crackpot totalitarian in an effort to stop people from being able to see information outside of their control. He has banned a social network and is threatening to fine $9,000 a day is basically the average salary of a Brazilian. Actually, and we'll check too. I'll check the GDP of Brazil right now. But this is absolutely crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:59 And my concern is these types of moves, they're coming everywhere. France arresting Pavel Durov. We're going to see a lot more of this. Elon Musk, if he travels outside of the United States, they might arrest him. Yes, they will arrest him, 100%. There's no doubt. He goes to anywhere. If anyone has any extradition with Brazil, I see it coming. The world's getting crazy.
Starting point is 01:23:19 It's going hardcore left. There's going to be zero freedoms. So that's why we got to get Trump. That's why we have to have a big tent. It's about $9,000 to $10,000 per person per year in Brazil. That's wild. They're basically saying a year's salary for every day
Starting point is 01:23:33 that you try to use X. They want to keep the people in the dark. What's Elon Musk's next move here? Where does he go from this sort of challenge from Brazil? Man, I don't know. Rumble's already out too. So I'll pull this up. Chris Pavlovsky said, Brazil no longer has Rumble. And from media reports, they will no longer have X.
Starting point is 01:23:56 World powers don't want Rumble. They don't want X. They don't want Telegram. They want to control information and our companies do not allow them to. There are no other large companies fighting for the freedoms like we are. We put everything on the line for it. One CEO is in jail. Advertisers boycott our companies to try and cut our economic lifeline, but they underestimate our support among the people.
Starting point is 01:24:14 The people keep us alive and keep us going. If you want to help us join X Premium, join Rumble Premium, if it gets big enough, you'll help us change the game. Yeah, this is absolutely crazy. That's a great that's a great tweet i didn't see that makes so much sense that's exactly what's going on and it's not
Starting point is 01:24:30 nobody's seen it i think what why does this matter brazil banning x uh if trump does not win this is coming here you're gonna get arrested for posting a meme of a dog you know eating a cheeseburger or something you've already had that guy arrested real quick for saying to vote for Trump or Kamala Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. Was it Douglas Mackey? Was that his name?
Starting point is 01:24:53 Douglas Mackey. I think so. He made the meme text to vote or whatever. Yeah. And there was a Democrat who did a similar thing, but they said because his included a number, it made his illegal and hers wasn't. What other social media platforms does Brazil allow right now? I'm not super familiar with their tech.
Starting point is 01:25:09 But they must do something to comply that X is not willing to do. Moderate. Right. I mean, China has basically scared every other platform away. They're able to only have basically sanctioned social media platforms by deterring everyone else by making it difficult for them to operate there. I mean, it seems to be working there. Is this where Brazil is drawing their inspiration from? No one knows.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Somebody bring me a Brazilian expert right now. I was looking up the stats for what's being used in Brazil. But yeah, they... Like, for what's being used in Brazil. But yeah, they... Like, can you go on Facebook in Brazil? Yeah. They had X until today. What is the reason Brazil gave? Misinformation?
Starting point is 01:25:55 Yeah, they want them to censor people. Right, so Chris Pavlovsky has this tweet from December saying, Recently, the Brazilian courts demanded we remove certain creators from Rumble. As part of our mission to restore a free and open internet, we have committed not to move the goalposts on our content policies. Users with unpopular views are free to access our platform on the same terms as our millions of other users. Accordingly, we have decided to disable access to Rumble for users in Brazil while we challenge the legality of Brazil courts demands. And they want to say they're disappointed. I mean, I'll pull this up because I think it was they say Justice Alexandre de Moraes warned Musk on Wednesday night that X could be blocked in Brazil if he failed to comply with his order to name a representative and establish a 24 hour deadline.
Starting point is 01:26:35 The company hasn't had a representative in the country since earlier this month. Elon Musk showed total disrespect for Brazilian sovereignty and in particular the judiciary, setting himself up as a true supranational entity and immune to the laws of each country. So what they started doing too, this is crazy. They issued a fine and when X ignored it, they seized the money from Starlink. An entirely different company. Just because Elon is involved or whatever. CEO. Yeah, coming to a country near you, I guess. This is the future, and it's sad.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Not even a guarantee if Trump wins this stops. Yeah, 100%. It's where we're going. Everything's becoming more, you can talk this, you can say that. Even the right people on the right are becoming more authoritarianism, to be honest. Becoming more authoritarian? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:23 In what way? And you can't, you know, like they don't like to say this let's just say transgender or abortion they don't want it at all they want this they want zero oh right you know no yeah zero tolerance yeah i mean it's kind of funny going back to the abortion thing how some of the biggest victories in the history of you know or i should say in our lifetimes or in the past three generations, and they're demanding more or else and willing to allow, or at least threatening to let Kamala win
Starting point is 01:27:51 unless they don't get what they want. Yeah, but they still let you speak about it. Obviously, they're not in charge. I mean, the right has no power at all. We don't own it because we don't own the power. I still feel like we go. I mean, I agree with you. Because we want to argue against these bad ideas.
Starting point is 01:28:04 That's the best way. I don't know. But yeah, I could be. If I was in charge, I agree with you. Because we want to argue against these bad ideas. That's the best way. I don't know. I agree. Yeah. I could be wrong. If I was in charge, I would let everyone talk. Exactly. Yeah, this is nuts.
Starting point is 01:28:12 I'm so grateful for X. It's like the only place where I feel free at all. And the only place I've ever been able to make any kind of money at all. Everyone calls me a grifter, but it's the only way I've been able to grift is on X. You know, I just, I got my well well done yeah thank you i got so i tweeted i tweeted earlier if you have three kids then you should be exempt from all taxes i tweeted this at 7 29 so we're getting ready for this show i just thought of it and we were talking about the child tax credit and i was like if you are above replacement three kids tax, tax-free. Because I think there are some countries that actually do this.
Starting point is 01:28:46 We're talking about child tax credit. No, no, no. You, you, like if people aren't having kids, there's no country. But it's got... I think Hungary has a policy like that. Right. It's got 1,700 responses and 1,000 retweets, which means it's going to make money. That's how it works.
Starting point is 01:29:01 You get money based on engagement. And then people will accuse me of saying, posting things like because they're like he's he's engagement farming for money or whatever certainly i'm not because i got a notification that that x paid me let me pull it up and see what the number is that's actually a good policy too so i got paid today four thousand two hundred five dollars and eighty six cents uh for the august 16th to the 30th so uh for the August 16th to the 30th. So for the month of August in total, I've got $9,832.92. Is that right? $9,832.
Starting point is 01:29:39 I'm sorry, $34.92. Yeah, I was off. I'm sitting here thinking like, if I actually tweeted five times per day... If you're grifting, you mean? If you're actually grifting? Right. I mean, I don't know if I would say even grifting is the right word. If I literally just said, X is going to be my platform where I post
Starting point is 01:29:54 things, and I'm going to post a conversation, like, I'm going to post for the purpose of having a conversation. Grifting, I think, is different. Grifting is, like, intentionally being antagonistic to make people respond to you. Whereas, I think, is different. Grifting is like intentionally being antagonistic to make people respond to you. Whereas I think genuinely making a post for positive interaction that, you know. But if I were to actually focus on the platform, I could probably make, you know, really good money considering what I already get right now.
Starting point is 01:30:18 That's kind of crazy. I mean, that's fantastic that X has developed that. And there's a real opportunity for people to figure out how to be creators on that platform. Yes. So one of the biggest threats that X brings is people can actually make money by spreading, by doing news and actually breaking the media narrative. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:38 It can be, you can become an endocrine. YouTube is a, is a bit more difficult, a bit more censorious, but not the worst. Facebook is really bad. TikTok is the worst, but X, X will allow you to make porn more censorious, but not the worst. Facebook is really bad. TikTok is the worst.
Starting point is 01:30:45 But X will allow you to make porn. I mean, that's too far. Too far. Go back. Go back. I'm not a fan of that. Or at least put parental restrictions on it. But it's a great platform with a great opportunity, and Elon Musk actually is supporting free speech to a great degree.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Not absolutely. So naturally, shut her down. Yeah. I made $55. That's great. i'll take it it's a guess yeah and and and you know what i said i've said to everybody because there have been people who take clips from irl and then i've had people ask me like do you mind that we post a clip from the show and i said go ahead and do it and And when you make money, keep it. So everyone listening, post clips from the show. And then when that generates comments and controversy. You do that every day.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Word up. For me, I'm like, if people start posting clips of TimCast IRL on X and they generate views and then make money off those clips, that's me getting free advertising that I would not otherwise get. And I'm not going to make money off that clips, that's me getting free advertising that I would not otherwise get. And I'm not going to make money off that clip on someone else's
Starting point is 01:31:47 page anyway. So go ahead and clip the show and post it on X. Post clips. Do it, people. Now, don't steal the whole show. That's a totally different story. We've had a few people screen grab the show and rebroadcast and I'm like, no, that's a dick move. Also, out of context,
Starting point is 01:32:03 clips are very fun. Oh yeah, absolutely. I love that. But that you don't need my permission for. If you want to do fair use mashups where you make us say silly things, by all means. I'm just saying, if there's a part of the show that you think is important, actually to be honest, you don't even need permission to clip the show. It's fair use. The members only show is
Starting point is 01:32:20 different. There's some dirty people out there. What are they? People sharing it? Like lefties who go in there and then they'll purposefully record the show and then start sharing clips from it. And it's like, well, now you're infringing on our market. Because the members show, you've got to be a member to watch. Nobody shares the
Starting point is 01:32:35 members show, do they ever? I'm a big Tim Kass fan and I, it's always praiseworthy. No, but I mean, like, even for the members show, I have no problem with someone. No, but I mean, like even for the members show, I have no problem with someone like there's there's questions about copyright as it pertains to the membership that I can't say. I can say if you're watching the show right now live on YouTube, you can take clips from
Starting point is 01:32:54 it and post them wherever you want. And if you make money on X from doing so, congratulations. I hope you make more. But for the members thing, I can't say that, though, in many instances, if there is something newsworthy or comment worthy it's fair use to a certain degree i've seen people act in ways that's not really fair use to take our show which is behind a paywall and then use it to make content or whatever they claim it's fair use but i think it's actually probably not it might be do you prefer no one clips the members only show
Starting point is 01:33:23 no i'm not saying that i think that's fair i show? No, I'm not saying that. I think that's fair. I think that's fair. I'm not saying that. Okay. Yeah, I'm saying there are circumstances where it's going to be newsworthy. You know, we had Steve Bannon on and we're talking to him
Starting point is 01:33:32 and he says something newsworthy. It's like, I can't deny that. But there are certain circumstances where it's certainly not newsworthy and leftists are pulling clips that just basically infringe on the market. Yeah. Like I shared that Jay,
Starting point is 01:33:42 that Jay gentleman who was trying to be Republican and he was getting shot down by his localay gentleman who was trying to uh be republican and he's getting shot down by his local people he's trying to run for office but the local people republicans were not letting him do it and it was a big one he got word out it helped him out you know okay yeah yeah when they're important yeah all right we're gonna go collins are uh a great department the collins show is one of the best parts of this show. I'll just be honest. It's great.
Starting point is 01:34:06 I love the Collins. Okay, you're making me feel bad now. No, no, I'm just relaxed. No, but I'm not saying don't. I swear Raymond's clipped that members only show before. I have, I have, 100%. I was going to say. I was talking ish.
Starting point is 01:34:16 But I'm not saying that in and of itself is the problem. I'm saying that there are certain circumstances where it's clearly just meant to bypass that we're trying to make money. Absolutely, yeah. And that's when it's like they're trying to masquerade as fair use on things that probably don't make sense for it. But it's like, what am I going to do? I'm not going to sue anybody. But let's go to Super Chat. So smash the like button.
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Starting point is 01:34:43 It's $10 a month. It's Friday, just before Labor Day weekend. We're so close to just getting up and disappearing. But we're going to stay here for a little bit longer. We're going to read your Super Chats. Robert G. Smith says, howdy, people. Kamala looked pretty rough last night, and it was only Thursday. She is ready for Labor Day weekend.
Starting point is 01:35:02 What can we say? One of my favorite memes ever. I posted it on my instagram it is that cat that is like its eyes are half closed and its mouth is hanging open and the camera is slowly zooming in on it and it says when you've already given it your all but it's only tuesday and it's playing that that song from what's her i don't know sierra not sierra it's uh i can't remember the name of the artist. But I just absolutely love that meme. And I posted it and people were like, damn, Tim, looking rough.
Starting point is 01:35:27 Are you all right? And I was like, I'm totally fine. I just love the meme. The cat looks so just destroyed. I think there's something to be said though for the fact that she looks, I'm not even trying to be mean. Like she just looks exhausted in that interview.
Starting point is 01:35:42 And she has actually only been on the campaign trail. Granted, it's been pretty hectic, but for what, what a month at this point people also forget how old she is they pretend like she's younger she's old i mean no offense excuse me she's older you know okay there are older politicians who like can't derive strength from this it was just she should fire whoever set up that interview because the whole thing was not good for her no matter what the emails shouldn't be on the campaign trail just kidding or at least give her some better lighting i mean come on it was it was there were so many like minor things that i'd have to be like what what are we doing here yeah all right here it is this is the meme i'm talking about okay i posted that and people were like feel feel better tim or whatever and i'm like no no i i was actually
Starting point is 01:36:22 laughing my ass off the whole time. Look at its face. It's just, it's the look of I'm just so done with all of this, this poor cat. That's why she wasn't laughing. There were no more laughs left in her, I guess. That's what Kamala looked like. It's only her stage. She still has, what,
Starting point is 01:36:40 two months at least to go? We're 65 days out from the end of the, or from the election she can't look this exhausted and have only been in for a fraction of the time that even biden was in all right blave kaiser says my only problem with the culture war today was that it was it that was that it wasn't an additional two hours i think the culture war this morning was my favorite show ever. We had Roman... I can't pronounce his name. Roman's awesome.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Yeah. How do you pronounce his name? I know how to spell it. I need to pull it up. You had to translate. Yampolsky. Should be easier. Super smart guy.
Starting point is 01:37:23 He's a PhD researcher. We had Brian Sauve. Am'm pronouncing that wrong wrong S-A-U-V-E and uh he's a he's a he's a pastor and he's a Christian musician and we were discussing simulation theory the nature of existence God and Ian was saying crazy things that made the scientist look very confused and it was hilarious there's a point where Ian was like if like we put a computer in crystals or like it's like a circle and like the pattern is is it going to change the outcome and then the roman just like turns his head and looks at me like help what is he saying and i was like wait wait let me translate let me translate he's saying does the structure of the computer by which you put the a and alter the ai itself in
Starting point is 01:38:04 some way and he was like oh you're talking about substrate it doesn't matter of the computer by which you put the AI alter the AI itself in some way? And he was like, oh, you're talking about substrate. It doesn't matter what the computer is, the algorithm will operate. And I was like, yeah, there you go. Like, there you go, Ian. You didn't have to say weird, freaky things that sounded like hippy-dippy nonsense.
Starting point is 01:38:15 And Roman was like, well, thank you for the translation. Yeah. I was like, let me try and translate Ian. Ianisms for you. It's like to the average person, he's not making sense, but I can try and I understand his idea. There's several years of conversation. You're like, I can say. I know what he's trying to say.
Starting point is 01:38:32 It reminds me of when toddlers develop their own words for things and their parents know what they're talking about. Like, you know what Ian is asking for. He said he brought up Nassim Harriman and the Schwartz field something proton where it's protons are actually two protons of the black hole. And then once again, Roman just like looks over at me like, what is he talking about? And he didn't make that up. That's actually something I think Nassim Harriman is famous for. But people call it pseudoscience. I don't know. It was an amazing show. You can watch it on Tenet Media on YouTube uh it was this morning from 10 to noon we do those every friday and this was just it was a wild show and everybody was like go long go long
Starting point is 01:39:10 but we we can't go i was expecting like a three-hour one but you weren't talking civil war with andrew wilson you know civil war so but it's so that well that's because with with andrew wilson we had a conversation and at the end of the show a new debate debate emerged. Whereas with this one, we spent two hours talking about simulation. And then we sort of got to that point where I was like, we could probably go on for a long time, but it was slowing down. It was like it made it to its it made it right to its end. Peaked out. Yeah, it was it hit the plateau.
Starting point is 01:39:38 And I said, we'll stop at a high point. It was good, though. I enjoyed the heck out of it. Clayway says, Tim, did you hear about the Michigan kid dragged 855 feet and left for dead on the road because he supported Trump? Real story. What? I tried looking it up. I couldn't find anything.
Starting point is 01:39:54 So I have no idea. Stacey Strickland says, happy 10th anniversary to my wonderful husband, Mark, from age 19 to 29 and two beautiful babies later. The past decade has been the best years of my life so far. Happy to have many more. Wow. Congratulations. And I will stress, Stacey, for you and Mark, you are the envy of the majority of people in existence.
Starting point is 01:40:15 I love when we get super chats like that. High school sweethearts with a loving family and living their best lives. Please always super chat in with your anniversaries, the fact that you're in the hospital with your wives who are giving birth, although maybe you should focus on what's going on there. It's the best.
Starting point is 01:40:30 It's so cool to hear people accomplish these things. Yo, positivity. There's a lot of positivity going on here, which is nice. Big7588 says, Kamala's a disgrace to women everywhere. First, she was old Joe's trophy coffee girl. Now she is the left's servant on a leash. Needed a man to follow her around and keep her in line.
Starting point is 01:40:49 It is crazy that the girl boss queen of feminism right now had to bring a man to an interview. And not even her husband. Like, just this other guy she sort of picked up recently. She just met him, like, a month ago. No, they met when she went to tour a Planned Parenthood in his state. Weird friendship origin story, I would say. But, you know. All right.
Starting point is 01:41:13 Joe Arn. Yeah, Joe Arn won. It's always funny because R-N, if the text is really small, could be an M or an Arn-an-an. It says, congrats to Rgs jr and his appearance love that one of us one of us one of us he forgot to add gobble gobble but that's okay congrats brother i appreciate it i thank you so much i appreciate all the support from everyone too i do 100 cilantro industrial complex as tim promised a celebrity i told all my friends radiohead was opening for beyonce so i'll add to that that's why i said I said we may have a celebrity guest coming on the show randomly. And that's because there was someone who said they wanted to come hang out, but they would not confirm a booking with us. And so it was more so someone being like, oh, dude, I'd love to come check it out. Maybe I'll come on the show. And then I was like, cool. And so that's why we often don't promote. We don't announce who our guests are going to be. Now we've been doing it in the members only.
Starting point is 01:42:05 And for the members only, I'll say we have booked this person tomorrow. But then sometimes they cancel and then we bring in some from D.C. I am happy to be a disappointment. Wait, what? You were the. Not the celebrity. It would have been you plus one, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:18 The celebrity wasn't replacing. We wouldn't have told you to get out. No, no, no. I know. But when you said that earlier this week, I clipped it and I sent it to my mom and I was like, look, he's announcing me on the show. I was kidding. I like the idea that we just always tease that Beyonce
Starting point is 01:42:33 is coming on the show. Wouldn't that be funny? Beyonce is Tuesday. I heard that too. Every day we get friends. Yeah, you know what I was thinking would be really funny? When they were talking about how Kamala hasn't done an interview for 30 days before they announced the CNN thing, I was sitting on my couch with Allison and I was just like, you know if I tweeted right now that we have secured an interview with Kamala Harris,
Starting point is 01:42:56 the entire press would erupt and explode. And then they would report the claim without fact-checking. And then they would say, we've reached out to the Harris campaign for comment. They have not yet returned one. And then what happens is the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, maybe not the journal, but the Times especially, would report it without fact checking because it's what they do. And they'll say, podcast host Tim Pool has announced that this coming week, you know, Kamala Harris will be doing an interview, which would be weird if it was true. And then once they get a response, they would take the story down or they would say, Tim Pool lies, claiming interview with Kamala Harris was not true.
Starting point is 01:43:32 Harris was and it's not true. But then the smaller blogs and other garbage news outlets would not update. And I think it's kind of crazy. There's very few things like a tweet that would cause the media to react that way right now. Like, I'm not going to react that way right now. Like, I'm not going to do that. I'm just saying, it's kind of crazy that you just go like beep.
Starting point is 01:43:48 And then this pressure on Kamala Harris, it goes, it'd be nuts. Oh, she could never though. She could never do that. She could never do spaces. It's crazy that she physically cannot,
Starting point is 01:43:57 you know, like she does not have it in her. We have a chair for Tim Walls though. You could bring your man. So on Fox, it was really funny. They said you can't walk down
Starting point is 01:44:08 Fifth Avenue New York without bumping into someone begging to do a CNN hit. They found the one person to run for president who doesn't want to do it. I think it might have been Gutfeld who said that I don't know or Waters. But that was actually really funny. It's like everyone's always begging to go on TV but Kamala Harris is hiding under the covers.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Let's go. She didn't even do that many interviews pre-announcing the campaign. I mean, even while serving as vice president, she was very aloof from the media. I will add our potential celebrity guest is still coming.
Starting point is 01:44:39 When did you announce this? How long ago? Did I miss it? I didn't say who was coming. I said this week we may have a celebrity guest coming who is totally apolitical and I don't know how they would handle being on a show like this at all. It was on the Monday morning show. Oh, that sounds fun. Oh, was it? Yes.
Starting point is 01:44:55 Right. And so... She's outdoing you. She's a better listener than you are. I'm not going to say who we have coming. Sure, sure, sure. I'm not asking that. Because they're probably not going to come. And so, but, they've been talking about like, I gonna come i'm in the area i'll swing by when i can it's labor day weekend maybe maybe next week i'll see you and it's like okay we'll see yeah but then they were like can i come on the show and i was like i'm talking to my friends i'm like i think they're gonna be able to do politics like who cares yeah let's do it anyway yeah just another
Starting point is 01:45:21 ian or myself type i was like all right third chair I don't know if you and Ian are in the same category. Give yourself a little more credit there. I'm kidding. Thank you. Ian, I am a huge fan of, by the way, but he's the only person who can say stuff that ticks me off. And I still, he's very likable. He continues to say stuff that ticks me off,
Starting point is 01:45:40 but he's so dang likable. So he's special. I agree. All right. Jacob Hawley says, does it make sense that I'm center left and voting Trump? I feel that Democrats are shifting economically to the right, but socially left or Republicans are shifting economically left, but socially right. Does it make sense? One of my friends is socialist and vote Trump too.
Starting point is 01:45:56 I agree. It used to be 15, 20 years ago, you'd say, well, I'm, you know, fiscally conservative, but socially, you know, liberal or whatever. And now you'd say, well, I'm, you know, fiscally conservative, but socially liberal or whatever. And now you'd say, I'm socially conservative, but I'm kind of fiscally liberal. It's like inverted. Yeah. Back then it was like, hey, man, look, I'm I think free speech, gay rights, all that stuff. I had no problem. But we're spending too much money in government.
Starting point is 01:46:19 We need to pull this stuff back. Now it's inverted. Now the now it's like the left is communist and we're like, I'm liberal. I'm, I'm fiscally like, or I'm sorry. Yeah. Republicans, a lot of the people they've won over are the independents. And this is why it makes sense when you're on the left, it's because you're in favor of certain things they've got. And wait, was a moderate. And when you're a moderate on the right, it's because something makes more sense on that side. So it's flipped. And now people are saying we're socially conservative because the social liberalism is wokeness and weird
Starting point is 01:46:49 kids sex changes and things like that yeah you know and then but and then we're going but we still do like the idea of like some government programs yeah we never gave that up conservatives don't like that stuff all right let's go wait so conservatives don't like uh welfare offices type stuff helping out conservatives tend to be against government welfare programs okay not it's not an absolute like the libertarians are no none conservatives are like reduce reduce you know okay smashing random keys says it sounds like you would vote trump no matter what because he's better than kamala if voting for the lesser evil was the important thing, then why didn't you vote for Trump in 2016 or Romney against Obama? Basically, voters shouldn't have any values and vote red no matter who. Incorrect. I have long
Starting point is 01:47:33 said I do not vote for the lesser of two evils. That's why I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Get it? The reason why I voted for Trump in 2020 is that after a first term, he proved to me that he was actually good. And I said, wow, he's he didn't start any wars. I can't I can't believe it. It's the first time in my life we've got a president who isn't going and bombing people. And don't get me wrong. Bombing was still happening. But that was Clinton, Bush's and Obama's bombing that Trump inherited. And then Trump said, we're not going to start anymore. And so I'm like, wow, Trump, Trump. And then he actually the Abraham Accords, he tried to bring peace to the Korean Peninsula. I'm like, wow, Trump. And then he actually, the Abraham Accords, he tried to bring peace to the Korean Peninsula.
Starting point is 01:48:06 I'm like, this guy's actually doing the things that the left was hoping for in the late 90s. And like Occupy, he's doing these populist moves. He got rid of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. He wants to secure our borders. That was a Bernie Sanders proposal to secure our borders. And here's Donald Trump doing these things. I'm going to vote for this guy. I view Donald Trump as a net positive, a force of good.
Starting point is 01:48:35 I don't think he's perfect. That's impossible to get a perfect president. But if the only conclusion I could come to is that on a scale of zero to 100, where 50 is your neutral, Trump's 51. I actually think he's probably around like a 70, meaning there's a net bad that comes with any person. And that's only because we disagree. And I think some things he shouldn't have done and some things he could do better. But I'm looking at all the past presidencies and I'm like, Trump actually is a force for good. I'm not saying he's an angel or a god emperor come to save everybody is super altruistic. I'm saying that if you were to add up everything he does, we're finally in a net positive position. Romney and Obama. Well, look, I'll tell you this.
Starting point is 01:49:12 That to me was it's the same. I'm like, well, I'm not going to try these guys to net negatives. And to be honest, maybe Romney would not have been. I don't know. That's why when it was Trump, Hillary, I just laughed. I'm not going to frame these guys. And then Trump wins Hillary, I just laughed. I'm not one of these guys. And then Trump wins. And then I laugh.
Starting point is 01:49:28 I'm like, I wouldn't I would never vote for Trump. And then by 2020, after everything that had happened, I was like, I'm voting for Donald Trump. He had proven himself. I was. And even even, you know, after Obama, he's the first president I voted for. He's the peace president. They claim he's going to bring our troops back. He's going. He's going to negotiate these wars away. We were hoping for that. And he goes and blows up kids. Like one of the first orders he took was an executive action
Starting point is 01:49:52 that bombed the village, killing 23 women and children. And I was just like, okay, what was the point? One of the first things Trump did was signing off on a commando raid in Yemen, which resulted allegedly in the death of an American eight-year-old girl, Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki's sister. The difference between Donald Trump and Obama, the Obama administration bombed a civilian restaurant to kill a bunch of civilians, including a 16-year-old American. And Donald Trump ordered a commando raid in Yemen, a country we're not at war with, which is bad and I think should be investigated. However, it is only alleged. We don't really have strong evidence to know exactly what happened in that raid. People in Yemen have claimed it resulted in the death
Starting point is 01:50:29 of a young girl. That's why I say it should be investigated. For Barack Obama, it's admitted they bombed a civilian restaurant with an airstrike, killing civilians, including an American. That's an admission of criminal guilt. I think all the president should be investigated. And I'll add this too. It's funny. Of all the things a president's been criminally charged for, documents in his boxes in random. Oh, come on. Garbage.
Starting point is 01:51:00 You know why they're not going to go after Trump over the commando raids? Because they have to go and arrest Obama and Bush. But they could if they wanted to and not do anything with anyone else because they're running the show still. I look at the document stuff and how they don't go after Biden, but they were forced to issue a statement about Biden being inept,
Starting point is 01:51:18 that he couldn't stand trial, basically. And documents are a much lighter play. If they came out and said, Donald Trump's orders, this would have immediately invoked presidential immunity questions impeachment questions and it would have immediately uh in brought up all the obama stuff because obama killed way too many americans when i wasn't paying attention to politics all i knew was obama that's the only thing that's the only thing i knew about a Obama. It was Obama. Yeah, they call him Obama. I didn't even know that much. Obama.
Starting point is 01:51:48 I was like, who's he bombing? I had no idea. He was bombing kids. Apparently. Too many of them. I could be wrong. I know for a fact of two Americans he killed, I think the total was four, though. But I could be wrong.
Starting point is 01:52:00 And that's too many. That's too many. And so... Even non-American kids. I mean, yeah, bombing. So you know what they did during the Obama administration? I despise these people. Get me riled up.
Starting point is 01:52:13 They were killing too many civilians. So they changed what counted as an enemy combatant to military aged males. So that meant when some 19 year old goat farmer was carrying a bucket of water to feed some farm animals and they murdered him, they could call him an enemy combatant in their stats. He was a military-aged male.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Are they doing that today still? Probably. But you know what I can say is, Luke likes to bring it up, that Trump increased the drone strikes. Right? And he removed transparency on them. They actually used to report how many drone strikes there were with trump he increased them got rid of the reporting i am totally fine with that i'll tell you why i think the drone strikes are wrong in the area but trump is trying to remove our troops i am not an
Starting point is 01:53:00 absolutist who think trump should shut everything down get our troops back right now no questions no strategy no plan that's insane look at at Afghanistan. We don't want that. Yeah. What we want is it is a commitment to withdrawing our forces from these places where they don't belong, where it doesn't make sense, where their lives are at risk, where we're spending too much money and it should be done strategically and it should be done with haste. But strategically comes first. So when Donald Trump is pulling our troops out of these areas, he is maintaining the defense of the region with airstrikes. I'm not a fan of airstrikes, but I'm a I am a a much less I'm much lesser of a fan of what Biden did with Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:53:36 If Donald Trump was in office and carrying out the Afghanistan withdrawal, they would not have abandoned Bagram Air Force Base. He would have evacuated all Americans personnel and American allies in the region who had been acting as translators through Bagram instead of the civilian airport, which they could not control, made no sense. And he would have used airstrikes to to keep the Taliban from moving in and advancing and securing territories. Then you have got our troops out keeping logistical capabilities in place for the national security forces of Afghanistan to keep the Taliban at bay. And he likely would have maintained airstrikes to stop the Taliban from moving in without U.S. personnel occupying or being in the country, or at least to a great, great degree. There may have been a small handful,
Starting point is 01:54:20 like less than less than double digits. But what Joe Biden does is abandoned Bagram Air Force Base in the middle of the night without warning, cut air support to all Afghan security forces. This meant guys were in the middle of flying helicopters and also the communications cut out and they panicked, landed their helicopters and got out and ran. For real. That's how crazy it was. Then they ordered people to evacuate through a civilian airport, which they could not secure. That feels intentional. Like they were they wanted to just destabilize. And by having allowing the Taliban to come in and seize billions of dollars of U.S. weapons, they're they're now being sold and traded across the region, exacerbating instability. And America, I shouldn't say America.
Starting point is 01:55:01 I hate saying that the uniparty establishment, neocon and neolib and the military industrial complex love the instability. It justifies further incursions that would not have happened under Donald Trump. So I can tell you Trump is doing things I don't like, but some we tolerate because they're they're moving us towards the end goal in the right direction. What the Democrats are doing right now is pushing us further and further deeper into these conflicts. And now Ukraine invaded Russia. I can't believe that we're at the point
Starting point is 01:55:30 where Ukrainians using Western weapons, intelligence training and volunteers has actually entered Russian territory, creating such a threat that Russia is evacuating their civilians, 130,000. This is creating a potential existential threat to Russia where they will respond in the extreme. So anyway, Obama administration, those people are scumbags.
Starting point is 01:55:54 All right. Mike Jamison, Jamison, maybe Trump should remind both sides that if World War III goes hot, abortion rights will be the last thing on anyone's mind. Amen. Amen. That's actually a good answer. You know, if they bring up abortion, you can just go, I got a lot of thoughts about abortion. But the problem is the biggest threat facing us right now is the escalation of war with Ukraine invading Russia, Russia's threat of nuclear retaliation. We can argue abortion after the fact. Right now, we need to stop the war.
Starting point is 01:56:25 Yeah. We need to stop nuclear war from killing everybody. I think Harris is effectively able to make abortion an emergency issue by ignoring the global conflicts and the escalating tensions and the potential, not just, you know, national security issues, but also the economic consequences of a lot of these things. She is acting like abortion is the be all and end all of right now. And actually, you know, as we have all talked about tonight,
Starting point is 01:56:48 it's an issue that has been moved and shifted over time for as long as we've had a government. And the border is another one of those issues that like the house is on fire, you know, and it's like we're talking about abortion, which won't matter if we don't stop the invasion here
Starting point is 01:57:01 and then also World War III. Right. Harris is now like, oh, I mean, I don't trust her. And I don't know, like, it's impossible to say what she means by I'm going to force things to the border. But like she is posturing as a more moderately on the issue than she ever has before. That's interesting. That means she knows it's a winning issue.
Starting point is 01:57:18 We should definitely treat an international crisis the same way. I just reshared a priest saying this on X before the show started, that the house is on fire and he was being asked about IVF and it's like, we're arguing about these crazy things and this is such a critical moment that abortion just doesn't matter. At all. I agree. Man, the Ukraine stuff, it's
Starting point is 01:57:38 kind of wild that it's not the biggest news. Ukraine invaded the Kursk region and it's just like this war just went crazy. Well, Palestine didn't take over. The Palestinians. Yeah. I think it's because we're too close to an election.
Starting point is 01:57:50 The scary thing is there's a lot of low-scale war tactics that can be implemented right now that will go under the radar because of it. True that. You're right, because Palestine's not even that big of a deal anymore. It's all election, election, everything. Kamala Harris gave an interview. Can you believe it? And I'm like, Israel invaded the West Bank.
Starting point is 01:58:06 Like, that is crazy. Israel launched a preemptive strike on Hezbollah. That's insane. And I'm watching Fox News and they're like, well, they had to. Otherwise, Hezbollah was going to attack them and Hezbollah's been attacking them, so they had to attack first. And I'm just like,
Starting point is 01:58:22 get out of here, dude. And the invasion of the West Bank is crazy. This is going to go, this stuff's going nuts. Is that an escalation that didn't need to happen? In my opinion, yes. I am open to any argument that says I don't know enough about the conflict
Starting point is 01:58:37 because I don't. All I know is hearing that October 7th was Gaza, Hamas attacking Israel, I can understand the move to cut off Hamas. Now they're making the argument that the same threat is potentially in the West Bank, so they have to go in in advance before the attack can happen. And I'm like, yeah, now you're beyond the confines of rational arguments. Because with the Gaza stuff, I can just be like, dude, not my war, whatever. Now I'm going,
Starting point is 01:59:06 what are you doing? With the Hezbollah and with the West Bank? Yeah. Now it's like, dude, we should not be involved. I say that 50 million times. All right, we'll grab one more. Based African says,
Starting point is 01:59:19 had a discussion with my black mom about reparations. When I suggested canceling income tax on slave descendants for some time to generate wealth for hard workers, she responded, you're too young. That's what affirmative action was for. Affirmative action was reparations to her. Right. The argument was being made that this was effectively going to be some kind of reparations.
Starting point is 01:59:38 But, you know, the argument's going to come up every four years because it gets votes. Yeah. All right, my friends. I wonder how many of you were currently driving in your car on your way to your vacation spot or to your family's house because you're going to have a barbecue tomorrow. Labor Day weekend is here. And you were listening to the show. If you were, then have fun.
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