Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1102 Tim Pool Announces Legal Action Against Harris Campaign For Defamation w/Clay Travis

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, & Libby are joined by Clay Travis to discuss Tim Pool announcing he will sue the Kamala Harris campaign for defamation, the Philadelphia Eagles denying an endorsement of Kamala Harris after fake ads are spotted in Philadelphia, Kamala Harris slammed for using a fake accent at a rally in Detroit, and Trump retaking the lead over Kamala Harris in the latest polls from Polymarket. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Libby @LibbyEmmons (X) Guest: Clay Travis @ClayTravis (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I made the announcement this morning, but I am going to state it again at the beginning of the show, and we'll get into detail as to why. I have engaged my legal team to begin the process to sue Kamala Harris and her campaign for defamation that I believe is so shockingly egregious. I'm not sure that there could be any, I'm not sure the statement they made about me could be any more extreme. I believe it is the most egregious it could possibly be. We'll get into that on the show, and I'll explain where we're currently at and what they said.

It took a clip from the show out of context and then just barreled on a bunch of insane fabrications, accusing me of calling for the what is tantamount to genocide among those who refuse to support Trump if he wins. And it is false, defamatory in the extreme. And again, we'll discuss that. But we'll talk about a lot more than that, because the question around this is more than just about me personally and that we will be. I'll stress this right now. Lawyers are engaged.

They are doing the work. We will file when we file. But it is our full intention to go the the full route file the lawsuit uh i'm very very angry about this but there are a lot of stories uh around comel harris right now particularly uh with claims of deceit lies we got a story out of philadelphia where an ad an ad campaign popped up all over the city claiming that comelo was the official candidate of the philadelphia eagles the The Eagles said this is a lie. This is not true. We don't know. I'm not saying that Kamala Harris put those things up. We don't know who did.

But she's also been accused of spreading the suckers hoax about Donald Trump and soldiers. We'll talk about that. And then in the news, Nate Silver is predicting Donald Trump to win right now at around 57 percent, which is huge. Looking at the polling with some polls showing that Trump is going to win the blue wall states, they call it. We'll talk about that. We got a story about Chicago, Venezuelan migrants, migrants taking over an apartment building. And then we got some really big news. Turkey wants to join BRICS. A video of naval U.S. service members being attacked. One man having a bag pulled over his head in Turkey. Things are getting absolutely crazy and a lot more. Biden saying the Secret Service won't let him go outside anymore. We'll let him go to big rallies. We'll talk about that before we get started. My friends

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We just know the one thing for sure. It's going to be extremely expensive. And I made the decision to move forward on this without knowing whether or not you guys would be backing us in our endeavors at this company. So, again, go to TimCast.com. Click join us. Become a member if you support our work. We really do need it. Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Clay Travis.

Appreciate you guys having me. It's going to be a lot of fun. Sounds like a wild time to be swinging by. I'm on for three hours every day. I wanted to add three hours here with you guys tonight. I'm excited to be here. And we got, what, nine weeks in a day? That's crazy. Nine weeks in a day. 64 tomorrow by the time people wake up. We'll be officially nine weeks

out. So where do you primarily, I guess, where's your show and what do you primarily cover? Yeah, so I do the Clay Travis Buck Sexton show every day from noon to 3 Eastern on 500 some odd AM FM stations. We took over after Rush Limbaugh died. So I've been working with Buck for a little bit over three years now daily. But I come out of the world of sports. I love football.

We're football season here. And I run still Outkick.com, which I would say is a sane version of sports if people have not checked it out before. And I sold that company to Fox about three years ago. And so I run Outkick. I do three hours of daily radio with Buck. I still do a lot of sports. And I'm on Fox News fairly regularly as a part of them buying OutKick. So I feel like I've got like 20 jobs and the best is I get to say exactly what

I think. And in this world, that to me is the ultimate privilege because there's so many people out there. Probably number one thing I hear when I'm out and about is you say what I wish I could say. And I'm sure for a huge percentage of your audience, people have to make a mortgage payments. They got to take care of their kids. They can't necessarily fight back against all the chaos they see every day. So I feel incredibly fortunate to get to speak for a lot of people who don't feel like they have that luxury. Right on. Should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. I appreciate y'all having me. We got Libby hanging out. I'm Libbyby emmons with the post millennial i'm glad to be here hanging out i'm glad you're hanging out too i think you sound exactly like a sports broadcaster every time you talk i just think

yes of course this guy uh wrote about football well and think about how crazy it is you used to be able to just say hey you know i think so and so is going to win the game and then i would say covet happened and in many ways the fact that they i'm still in many ways, the fact that they, I'm still not over it, but the fact that they didn't let kids play high school sports, the fact that some blue states demanded that if you played basketball, you had to wear a mask while you're doing it. And now they want to snap their fingers, you know, sort of mission men in black style and just pretend none of this ever happened.

They're over it. They don't want to talk about it. They don't want to talk about the fact they were wrong on everything. So that's where I came from. Yeah. I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for SCNR.com at Scanner News. Check out our work at Timcast News on the internet. Let's get started. Here's the story from the Post Millennial. Tim Poole announces plan to sue Kamala Harris campaign for defamation because even though I'm literally sitting here and I'm going to tell you all about it, we always source our stories. Libby, do you know about this source? Have you heard of it before? Not only have I heard about this source, but I wrote this story.

Indeed. Wow, that's incredible. So we'll cut to the chase. I tweeted, I've engaged legal counsel. We are preparing to take action. More to come. There's a lot that I cannot discuss for obvious reasons. And I will stress that in most circumstances, and basically in all of them, where you've heard me discuss our legal challenges, legal issues, our lawsuits. We never discuss details. However, this story is largely political. It is a massively viral video from Kamala HQ that has 11.5 million views. So this is wasn't one of their passive posts. This is one of their it's I should just say it's a very large post. The Harris campaign posted Trump operatives say their Project 2025 plan is to give Trump total unchecked legal power so they can jail and execute those who don't support Trump. If he wins, they have since scrubbed this video from YouTube.

So I'm going to come out right and say I am not a Trump operative. I have never received any money from Trump, Trump's associates or anything to do with Donald Trump. This company has received zero investment. This company is built from the ground up from my personal savings at first, then sponsorship revenue, which came from various companies like, you know, gold companies and things like that, but largely programmatic ads that I don't even know what they are. So when these videos appear on YouTube, YouTube runs ads. I don't know what they are using that money to invest. I have received no money from anybody. I have nothing to do with Project 2025. I have zero association at all with anybody, anything to do with this. And the closest thing is they've appeared on the show at some point.

But in any way, having to do with Project 2025 is absurd, not true. I have never called for total unchecked legal power for anyone. In fact, I've argued against it. And I oppose the death in any way having to do with Project 25 is absurd and not true. I have never called for total unchecked legal power for anyone. In fact, I've argued against it. And I oppose the death penalty in all circumstances. And I've routinely argued on the show the death penalty is wrong. I do not trust the government to decide who gets to live and die. To make the claim that I'm calling for that is shockingly insane. I do not believe there is a more extreme thing you could say about a person that other than to indicate they were calling for the genocide of political factions in a country that refuse to support a presidential candidate should he win. And for this, we are suing the we are we are pursuing this legal action.

So there's a lot more we can talk about, I suppose, in this. Laura Loomer was also in the show. One interesting thing I can say, Laura Loomer, at the end of this clip, it's a show I believe is from June 1st. Let me play a little bit for you and you can hear the context and then I can explain what the full show actually was discussing. Should Democrats be in jail? No question. When Donald Trump gets elected, should he start locking them up? No question. Should there be lists of Democrats that need to go to jail? One hundred percent.

The reason for that is they they committed crimes. We need to make sure that when Donald Trump wins, we've got an attorney general, a deputy attorney general, a head of the CIA and the FBI. Cash Patel would be fantastic. We can have attorney general. There are some names floating around. And then they can start having their investigators and the feds issuing subpoenas, pulling up evidence and with real evidence, bring them to judges for warrants. Then these people can spend three, three years of their lives fighting tooth and nail for the crime against the government for crimes they committed.

And we can prove. And the reason why we put them on trial is that we can show the whole world. We will uncover what you've done. We will make sure everyone knows and you will be held accountable for it. Not just jail. They should get the death penalty. You know, we actually used to have the punishment for treason in this country. And then the show ends. I'll tell you why. It's because we do not allow calls for violence on this show.

Allegiance of violence. We do not call for the death penalty on this show. That is not allowed. The show is in its full on Rumble, iTunes, Spotify and all their podcast platforms. It wasn't scrubbed because any of these any of us were concerned about it. It's an I don't know what they're trying to imply by saying we scrubbed it, but I will I'll give you the context. This is about Sean Davis of the Federalist, who said he wants to see lists of Democrats that will be arrested when Trump wins. The point I'm making, as you can hear, but they've excluded the context in the before this minute long clip, as I said, make sure that there's evidence, real evidence. The point was

this. Sean Davis said he wanted to see a list of Democrats who Trump was going to arrest. Later on, we even had Steve Bannon say there need to be arrests of 10 high ranking Democrats who have committed crimes. My point is this. If you are going to say that there are going to be arrests of Democrats, you need to have real evidence and warrants and investigations and prove those crimes. That was the context of this. I oppose the death penalty. Later on in the show, as the show continues, which they could have chosen to show if they wanted to, I say there's not even treason here. It's seditious conspiracy at worst. These are people who are trying to subvert government for personal gain or benefit. They're not aiding enemies of this country. And that's the context of what we were talking about. Now, as I stated, normally I don't talk about our legal issues, but this is, look, I'll just tell you, like I'm hanging out with family over Labor Day weekend, and all of a sudden my phone's blowing up with family members freaking out. People are freaking out over this, and I'm getting messages and all that stuff. Because to argue that I, and this is an important distinction, I never said anything about death penalty or treason.

I oppose all of those things. And Laura Loomer, again, interesting, never actually called for anyone to arrest or jail anyone, which is interesting. We're two totally different people. We don't work together. She's appeared on the show as a guest. So this claim is that they are accusing me in this clip of saying that Trump should commit what is tantamount to genocide, that should he win, people who won't support him should get executed. And that is absolutely, absolutely insane. And I don't think there's anything worse you could accuse a person of doing. To me, this is actually a sign of Kamala harris's campaign desperation leaving aside i understand why you would be outraged i mean for them to have shared this about you for it to have been seen by 11 and

a half million people and that and that's not including reposts and shares from their account which we can't track but this is to me is a calculated attempt that they have clearly made to try and make Project 2025 their focal point of attack on Trump. And so you said this occurred when? I believe the show was from June 1st. So June 1st. So they have had this, I really believe, for months. And they decided as the polls have started to slip and as Kamala Harris's sugar high has begun to diminish I just look at this purely from a strategy perspective this to me

is an attempt to change the storyline from their misguided attacks related to uh Abbey Gate and everything that happened at Arlington National national cemetery and try to put this into the the democrat media spin cycle and turn project 2025 and trump back into the hitler of his era right this is calculated language by them designed to send that message to all the followers that's what that's what i take away not on a particular basis i don't know about you guys but that's that's what strikes me when I see that her official campaign account shared this.

I'm shocked about this. They did the exact same thing to Charlie Kirk. They said MAGA operative endorses Trump's Project 2025 to give Trump total control over Americans' lives, put the president entirely in charge of the government. And that's not what Charlie Kirk was saying at all. He wasn't doing that. And Trump also has. And that's not what Charlie Kirk was saying at all. He wasn't, you know, doing that. And Trump also has said that he's not affiliated with Project 2025.

I was on the show one night with a Project 2025 person who's no longer with the project, with Heritage Foundation, who said unequivocally that it was not a Trump project, that it was not part of that. They'd been working on this for years. It coincided with Trump's campaign, but it's not the same thing. And it's an effort to to paint the entire conservative side and the Republican side as though there's just one voice. And if you think about it, that's what they do with all groups of people. They assume that every group of people is a monolith that where that doesn't have individuals that can speak for themselves or have their own ideas or ideals or values or thoughts, you know, or plans.

And I think that that's one of the most dangerous things about the Democratic left today, is that they assume people who have similarities that they identify, similar identifiers, you know, should all be shuffled into affinity groups and not be really permitted to have their own thoughts. Right. I think so much of it is fear mongering. Right. I mean, all of this is to make it look like this show is an extremist outlet and that if you listen to anything from it, if anyone, you know, references this show, that they are actually supporting very extreme calls for violence, which is inherently not true. I mean, we've already talked about that. And I think so much of the Democratic left in

America relies on fear and compliance. They don't want anyone to check where any clips are coming from. They want people like Charlie Kirk or Tim to be these, you know, shadowy figures who if you reference them, actually, that's a signal that you're, you know, deranged and no one should trust you. And I think that is very, very totalitarian and people should be afraid of that. But again, this fear of being associated with the wrong people is so inherently bred into American culture right now that it's difficult for the general public to walk away from it. I don't know how this country survives like this. We've got a bunch of stories, but, you know, for the past 10 years, there have not, there has not been reality in this country. And what I mean to say is that

certainly I think there is objective reality. I think things are true and I think we can, we can prove them beyond a reasonable doubt. I would argue that the corporate press has been lying about the majority of political circumstances. As we can see here, we'll see how the media reports on this one. There's been some reporting on this. But since Trump started running in the first place, there has not been real news. It has been fractured. There have been corporate news outlets that lie and manipulate, and we can definitively prove that they do so with his look it's personal okay the kamala campaign said this about me yeah and the lie it's not it's not trump spilling food into a fishbowl it's not donald trump uh praising bad people i mean those are shockingly egregious

it's not donald trump saying inject bleach an insane thing to accuse someone of doing this is the that i i just it's crazy. I have a family member saying the the front runner for the largest the candidate for the largest political party in this country on their official campaign account to tens, 10 plus million people has accused you of calling for the mass execution, the killing extra legally of Democrat voters if they won't back Trump, should he win? This is insane. I mean, my family is is is is so pissed off about this to see that I'm like. I I'm I'm I'm at a loss for words to it. I can certainly speak speak but it's crazy to think that we are at this point in this country where the the the democratic campaign is is doing this and now real quick there's some

questions about how does it get so bad well i'll leave it to the lawyers discovery whatever ends up happening but how i can only assume it was intentional and I will tell you, as a lawyer, there's no way that some 19-year-old intern got sent a clip and posted it from Kamala Harris' account without it being signed off on to the nth degree. I bet eight people have to see every tweet before they send it out. It has to be signed off. I guarantee you, again,

to me, your point, I think, is a really good one about we live in a world now where you can't trust the vast majority of the media that is shared on a day-to-day basis. And we have a candidate. In Kamala Harris. Who has been expressly clear. That she doesn't believe that Twitter should be allowed basically to exist as it does. And a president and a vice president. She and Biden. Who tried to restrict what we could say about COVID.

To me this is a First Amendment election. I understand there's lots of people out there with a lot of opinions on economy, border crime, abortion, whatever you want to talk about. If you don't have the ability to have real debates in this country, there is no freedom. And I think they've recognized that. And I think they're trying to curtail discussions and attack people who have discussions to try to restrict the mass flow of information in this country. And that's why, to me, ultimately, if you believe in the First Amendment, this is an easy decision. So when it comes to presidential campaigns, you know, you just said you think eight people had to have signed off at least. I think that I think that that yes.

Sorry. So you're basically what I'm wondering is you're saying that as a large presidential campaign that spent they spend what a billion plus dollars in these campaigns. They're they're having multiple levels of PR scrutiny on everything they're doing. With so with something like this, it is in your view. They signed off on that intentionally yes and i think they have 15 videos like this that they have prepared over the next two months on a calculated basis to try to take control of the narrative news cycle and i again to me it's significant that you said it in June or whatever the date is. Yeah, that's interesting. They have had this video for some time, and I think they have – I bet they have 10 of them.

I swear they had posted it once before. Maybe I'm totally off on that, but I remember – I mean, it was like – that night was kind of a big deal because we don't pull the show that often and whatever. And I thought I had seen it on X before. Maybe it wasn't Kamala's official account. No, Destiny had posted it. Maybe it was Destiny. But like, it's not that this wasn't, you know, this is a clip they either saw live, hi Kamala Harris's campaign, or, you know, they saw it on X previously and clipped it knowing

that they wanted to hold on to this. Because I think you're right. I think especially after the DNC dip, you know, she didn't really gain any more momentum of that. There is this honeymoon period that has really closed on her. And now instead of having to give policies, they're trying to stick to Trump is the enemy at all costs. Anyone who talks about Trump positively is actually promoting discord in America. And you must fear them and resist them at all costs. Well, it keeps her from having to be an actual candidate. The other thing, too, that you have to remember about Kamala's campaign is that they have over 175 digital staffers,

right, who are online all the time, specifically looking for ways to attack Trump. So, you know, they've been doing this for a while. This is part of their game plan. It's probably their only game plan. She can't sit for interviews effectively. That interview last week was a disaster. She spoke for, I think, 18 minutes and the airtime was what, like, over 40 minutes on CNN. A lot of it was repeats. I mean, it was ridiculous. She won't take a press conference. She will barely talk to reporters. Every time she does, there's some kind of gaffe. And when she releases any kind of policy proposal, it's either stolen directly from Trump or some kind of weird socialist economic plan that will lead to

starvation and famine. So they don't have any plans other than to attack not just Trump, but Trump's voters. And I think what's really important about that, too, is it shows you just what she thinks and what her campaign thinks and what this Democratic machine thinks of your average American who's just walking around living their lives, you know, looking for the right person to vote for who they think should leave the country. And they don't have anything to say to those people. They hate those people. Let's jump to this next story from USA Today. Philadelphia Eagles work to remove bogus political ads purporting to endorse Kamala Harris.

This is insane. OK, look, the previous segment is about the Kamala Harris accusations or false statements, false declarations about me. But now we are looking at this extreme degree. This is Eagles Nation posting a photo of a billboard found in Philly of the Eagles appearing to endorse Kamala Harris. The team has not made any sort of official announcement and their voting resource website listed on it hasn't been updated since the primary elections. It's Kamala wearing Eagles gear and says Kamala official candidate of the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, we don't know who posted these, but I got to tell you, these are on bus stops in Philadelphia. This is either someone at an official capacity with lots of money

reached out to a large brokerage firm. We do ads here. We spend we did. We started in 2022 with big billboard spends in Chicago and Times Square. And we've done Google ads since then. It was when we first started doing marketing for the show, believe it or not. And so I've worked with big advertising agencies and brokers. They know exactly who did this. There are speculation. So I'll say the Eagles have denied it, saying this is not us. We do not endorse Kamala Harris. Some people have suggested that the Eagles did endorse her, but following a major backlash, they are now acting like they didn't. I don't know if I would believe that to be true. That's kind of insane. But then the other argument would be someone. Look, I'll put it this way. I have an agent. I call this agent represents a large firm that owns many different owns real estate all over the country. They know who I am. I have to sign a bunch of crazy paperwork. I have to give them

a lot of money. So when we bought these ads in Times Square, the first day was 60 grand. I have to give them the money first, and then in two months, they'll put the ad up. They know exactly who I am. They have all of my personal details. These are massive spends. Now, I don't know how many of these were bought, but you usually don't spend a little bit of money when you're doing campaigns like this. When I was discussing bus ads in New York City, not Philadelphia, but New York City, the minimum buy they sent to me was $250,000. There is no way I can imagine this happening, but maybe I'm wrong. I don't know what you think.

I think this is potentially, this is my theory, the greatest Dallas Cowboy fan troll job of all time. So I'm thinking, so for people out there who are not diehard sports fans, I am. The NFL kicks off on Thursday. The Philadelphia Eagles are in the NFC East. Their rivals are the New York Giants. New York's a blue state. The Washington Redskins, what do you want to call them now? The Commanders. You know, that is by and large. The mascot's a pig. Yeah. That is by and large.

It is the worst mascot of all time that they now have running around. But that's a D.C. area, probably left. And then you've got red state Dallas Cowboys. If you were in advertising and you were drinking, let's just toss it out, in Dallas, and you were like, man, screw Kamala Harris. She's the worst. Who's the worst team in our division?

It's the Eagles. We should do Kamala endorses the Eagles or the Eagles endorse Kamala ads. And I would put my money on this being some form of Dallas Cowboy, not the official team, but Dallas Cowboy fan pranks. You actually think so? That would be my theory because I don't think that you could get through this ad without being intentionally trying to ridicule them.

I think you would get fired. The issue with that, though, is that ad companies, when they take advertisements, they check all the artwork. They go through everything. They make sure that it's not copyrighted. They make sure that you have the rights to it. I tried to get a t-shirt made, me and my kid, at, I don't know, Uniqlo or whatever, and he wanted to put some video game logo on it, just hand-drawn.

He drew it. And they were like, we can't put that on. That's copyrighted. It's not your art. And, I mean, I used to work in advertising for like five minutes before I got fired. But, like, you need to check all the art. Correct. This has got the Eagles logo on it.

It's got the logo on it. You can't do that. I cannot do that. So we tried running an ad in a variety of fashions. This is back when Twitter was refusing to take this back when Twitter was Twitter before Elon bought it. And when they were running child abuse material, it was a big story. And so I reached out and I said, can we get a billboard that reads about Twitter? And they said, no. And I said, why not?

You don't have the rights to that brand, and we won't run an ad that says that word. And I said, okay, well, hold on. What if we rephrase it? And then they were like, here's how you have to restructure it to avoid copyright issues. And I was like, well, then we're not running the ad at all.

It was basically, it was going to be an activist protest billboard, but they were like copyright. And I forgot what they said. The other thing was obscenity or something like that. So the word was child abuser, you know, but they don't want that on their billboards. Now, granted, this is just the Eagles logo. Yeah.

But you're not you're you are not submitting that. So the argument could be that someone got a bunch of these printed up and then broke into those boxes to add. How would you have to know how to do that? There's an artist that they were saying, and I can't remember his name, but who does similar styled art. And he's done it with like Nike, but it's all pro Joe Biden. Right. So the idea that this was made by someone who kind of uses commercial logos or whatever in their art isn't you know entirely unreasonable and I would go back to I assume to get them all up so quickly uniformly you would have to have some kind of advertising

connection you'd have to know how to get these things placed but you made me laugh before the show because you were saying that uh saying your team supports Kamala Harris is like a college football insult right now it is like uh Notre Dame just play I'm a huge college football fan. Notre Dame just played against Texas A&M down in Texas, and a bunch of the frats had Notre Dame endorses Kamala Harris, basically huge signs that they hung outside of the fraternity houses, sororities too. So the idea that you would endorse Kamala Harris is an insult in many sections of college football right now. And so that's why I'm thinking, again, Dallas Cowboys trolling. Now, you may be well right that the logos, maybe they didn't expect it to work.

You know, it's an error in judgment that somebody allowed it to be put up. I'm fascinated by this story. I've seen some statements that there's more than one. This USA Today article says at least one. Yeah. If there's one, someone broke it in the machine and put it in there somehow. Someone who knew how these things worked got in there.

I think this is one of those that rolls. I don't know. Yeah, it's on the SEPTA, Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority. It's the kind that flips to different ads on rollers. Yeah, I think it has those. Some of them have those. But it would be hard to get in there.

If it's a roller, I don't know how you break into that. I mean, that's sophisticated. Here's the other thing. Remember they had that idiot would-be Josh Shapiro ad where he was going to be VP, and it leaked, and then they were like, Oh, who did this? So I,

yeah, I wonder if it could be connected in some way, the same idiot that made that video and somehow got it released for Josh Shapiro, whether simultaneously they were doing Eagle related ads, they didn't get the right approval but they have the ability to upload things and this thing got out there with i want to know the full story like i i really want to know if it's a prank or if somebody's an idiot and they thought oh we're

we're in a battleground state turnout in philadelphia might well decide the presidential election philadelphia is kind of an activist city i I mean, we did see a lot of activism there. So I could totally see someone who had access being like, I got to do this anyways. I really want to. But it makes me laugh because this is coming the same day the New York Times is running this article, left-wing misinformation is having a moment. Now, if you read the article at the end, they basically blame Trump. They're like, he's responsible for everything.

But it is interesting because they're wanting to destroy the Constitution. But it's interesting because they are acknowledging that there have been several major missteps by the Harris campaign that are misinformation, that they are presenting these false informations. Again, you know, what happened over the weekend to Tim? Like there there is a mistrust in the immediately like, I don't think the Eagles endorsed her tells me that between her and Walls, his stolen valor and his fake IVF, people don't look at the two of them and think this is an honest ticket. They will really tell us the truth. By the way, the other people that could be involved here are Pittsburgh Steelers fans. You're coming up with a whole new conspiracy. Yeah, I mean, there is a huge Steeler versus the Eagles element of Pennsylvania. And Pittsburgh is much more of a 50-50 surrounding.

I would bet most Steelers fans are going to vote Trump, whereas I would bet maybe most Eagles fans are going to vote Kamala. That's just a rough approximation. Who wants that vote? And that might not even be accurate, by the way. Now all these NFL teams have to issue a statement being like, we were not involved. The thing, too, is how often does a sports team endorse a candidate? Should never do it. I've never heard of it.

Why do news organizations do it? Well, the New York Times does it because they think they're the rulers of the universe. Yeah, that's accurate. And I think other editorial boards do it for the same reason. They feel as though they are trying to be ahead of the news. To Libby's point, I mean, it wasn't, the New York Times didn't just tell Joe Biden that he had to drop out once.

No, they kept saying it. They did it. And then they were like, hey, we really mean it. And then we got George Clooney to write it. Yeah. But you're a sports guy. Has this ever happened before

where a sports team has been like, we don't need to wear a hat in the ring politically? I like to think that OutKick is starting to kind of bring normalcy back to sports because the craziest thing that's ever happened in sports politically do you remember the nba put black lives matter on the basketball court yeah that was ridiculous they took the players names off the back yeah and replaced them with almost exclusively left-wing political slogans like that freaking happened the thing too was i remember that that because the NBA players were allowed to pick

their left-wing political slogan, but they weren't allowed to pick, like, All Lives Matter or Save Unborn Babies or anything like that. No, totally. Or Close the Border. They weren't allowed to pick, like, slogans that they might have actually believed in.

And anyone who didn't kneel down was, you know, shunned and called white supremacist and all of the horrible things and remember the craziest one of all was the WNBA players came out in Jacob Blake t-shirts oh that was crazy right and he tried to murder a black woman yeah and she called the police to protect him he was trying to rape her yeah she called she they were estranged. She had a restraining order. That's right. And he showed up.

He showed up at the house. The football player with the name on his helmet. Drew Brees. Jeez. Yeah. Drew Brees put, Afkos Drew Brees said, remember, Drew Brees got ripped for saying that the reason he stood for the anthem was because his grandfathers fought Nazis in World War II.

And then they started chanting F. Drew Brees. Wow. And so he showed up with Jacob Blake's name on his helmet. Which is a guy who ended up paralyzed when he was trying to kidnap his children. Because he had a knife and refused to put it down and was trying to show up and attack the mother of his children. Yeah, I think he had assaulted her before. She got a restraining order.

That's right. It was a long time ago. And then he reaches and grabs a knife in his car and the cop shoots him. After trying to tase him and stop him for some time before, he went and withdrew a weapon from his car. Let's jump to this in The Telegraph. Watch.

Kamala Harris feigns accent in speech to blue-collar workers. Critics say vice president speaks with a different dialect as she vows to support union workers in Battleground State of Michigan. What I love about the telegraph.co.uk, for those that don't know, is it's a rather neutral headline. Fain's accent is in quotes, and they say critics say.

I can respect that. Here you go. We got some. You better thank a union member for sick leave. You better thank a union member for paid leave. You better thank a union member for paid leave. You better thank a union member for vacation time. What is that? Thank unions for sick leave.

Thank unions for paid family leave. Thank unions for your vacation time. What is that? Wow. When you look at how the media reports it here, Google just sends you this. Obviously, Fox News says Kamala Harris goes viral with new accent at Detroit rally. But Newsweek says MAGA accuses Harris of changing her accent. Accuses?

She's doing it. Yeah, she's doing it. And then New Republic, MAGA melts down over Kamala Harris's accent for idiotic reasons. Dude, come on. What was that? What is this? Detroit and Pittsburgh, for those who don't know, five hours apart. Yeah.

We're not even talking about days apart. We're talking about literally the same day. Look, I'm from Nashville, Tennessee. And they're saying that's a southern accent I mean it's an awful southern accent no one else if I went to Massachusetts to try to appeal to people and started talking like a Kennedy everybody would ridicule me and then I went to you know back home to Nashville and said the exact same speech in a totally different accent. Southerners are used to this. People think that we are stupid if we live in the South and you guys are all not,

you know, like, yeah, you're we're, uh, borderline South right now. And they think that they will have more appeal to us if they pretend to be like us, even when we know we aren't they aren't Hillary Clinton did this with the ridiculous aspects I just Kamala is the fakest person I think to ever run for president she's in Michigan with this clip I mean I don't that's why I don't really understand it instead of trying to appear like whatever I think she's faking the southern accent to seem welcoming to seem more friendly the way that people you, stereotype southern ladies by saying, bless your heart. But actually, that's not. I think she wants to seem more black.

Well, let's apply what you said there, Hannah Clare, that, you know, Kamala Harris tries to sound a way to to what, like, be alter people's perception of her so that they feel like she's like them. I think it's trying to be disarming or charming. Yeah. Here's a story from Yale Insights. White liberals present themselves as less competent in interactions with African-Americans. So if the argument is that people like Kamala are going to meet a bunch of Southerners and

then try and put on a Southern drawl, or they're going to meet people in the city and they're going to try and speak like a street dialect of sorts, white liberals, according to Yale, act like they're stupid. What does that mean about how they perceive black people? They do think black people are stupid. And we've seen this for years. There was a study done that showed that white elitist liberals speak down to their black counterparts, you know, whether they have the same level of degrees and obviously, you know, similar intelligence and all of that. White liberals speak down to black people, and that's very clear.

Did you guys see the video? Batia Ungersargon talks about that and that that study was really the beginning of her moving away from the organized left. Did you guys see the video that went viral recently of liberal white people being asked about requiring ID to vote? Well, that's actually a really – the Ami Horowitz one. That's a classic video, and it's actually several years old, but it is always worth bringing up. It keeps cycling back through, and all the white people basically think black people are too dumb and not – Right. Kamala Harris even thinks that. She said that there shouldn't be voter ID because you need to get forms photocopied,

and you might live in a place where you don't have access to photocopying machines. Which is so clearly, she's never been to any real rural places, which me personally, neither had I, and then I moved to one. And it's not difficult to get something photocopied or anything. It's not difficult to get something photocopied or anything like it's not difficult to anything i think what it represents is that again kamala is super inauthentic but also she's incredibly lacking in confidence that's and so everything that she does is desperately trying to get people to like her and that is why i think these accents happen i think she's trying to make people

like her and it comes across so fake that i think it actually blows up in her face and makes people less likely to like her i do too i mean if you go back and play that clip where they're contrasting pittsburgh where she's not using an accent and then michigan again it's not the south it's not like she's going to texas and trying to blend in there i think she's not the South. It's not like she's going to Texas and trying to blend in there. I think she's using the Southern accent to seem like she has more of a personality and to seem like she has some kind of charm, which she doesn't. We know that she's not successful. She's more animated when she's in Detroit.

When you go to the Pittsburgh one, she looks much more scared. You better thank a union member for paid leave. You better thank a union member for vacation time. You better thank a union member for vacation time. It's all hands. She's leaning. And some of this is a stereotype of like a Southern gospel black woman. Thank unions for sick leave. Thank unions for paid leave.

Her gestures are much smaller. She looks more nervous. Thank unions for your vacation time. She's not moving and looking around as much. Like her body language is different when she doesn't have this fake accent. I think she really is trying to ask her to have a personality. Here's the other funny thing, guys. The first clip went viral and they might've been like, Hey, people made fun of how you talked, maybe dial it back. And then she dialed

it back and it actually made things worse because then you put them side by side. And this is why so many of your advisors are worthless because this this is if you allow people to get in your head eventually and i'm sure this is what's happened to kamala you don't even know what's real you can't act normal anymore could you imagine if she kept that dialect if the advisors went to her and said uh kamala look you used the dialect you can't drop it now you will get accused of being inauthentic. From this point forward, that's how you talk. She's on the debate stage with Trump next week.

And she's talking like this to Donald Trump. And he's going to be like, Kamala, why are you talking that way? That's weird. What are you doing? If he calls her weird, that would be a very viral moment. But the thing, too, it's like what you were saying about, you know, people telling her to dial it back or whatever. She has so many handlers. There are so many people telling her what to do and how to behave and what to think and what to say. You know, I mean, the only thing she has control over are those sneakers. And she's never been a genuine person in front of the

American people. Maybe she was genuine in 2020 when she touted all those left-wing positions that she's now backtracking on, even though she actually still believes in them. But I don't know. I don't know what they think. I don't know what her handlers think people would be voting for other than her identity and the, you know, Democrat Party machine, you know, voting for the people who will be staffed. These unelected bureaucrat type. You've been writing online for a while, right? Yeah.

Do you ever read the comments to what people say about your article? No. Why not? Because I don't really have that kind of time. Because they're not real. I think it's because they're not real. I also think if you allow people you don't know to critique your work and you take it seriously, sometimes it gets in your head and it will impact the way that you perform. Yeah, I mean, this is why in theater people always say don't read the reviews after opening night. And you're like, oh, and I used to do theater and we'd get reviewed, you know, which didn't always happen, but sometimes happened.

I would just be like, and this was back when there were newspapers, I'd be like, no newspapers backstage. We're not looking at the review. We're just going to do the show. You just got to do your show. My top advice for people who do live radio, because I came out of Sports Talk Radio, don't ever pay attention now to what people say while you're live on the air.

Same thing now. I mean, I'm sure there's comments rolling in YouTube all the time, but if you worry, this is a great line from- Oh, you don't want to know this. I'm sure they'll lighten me up right now. They're posting eggplant emojis and then your name. That seems positive. Is that good or bad? Is that good or bad? Charles Barkley had a great line and he said, and I give credit to him,

if you worry about the opinions of people who don't like you, then eventually the people who do like you won't like you either. Yeah. And now everybody hates Kamala. In a similar vein, too, there was something interesting. I think it was Zuby who brought this up. He said a lot of people, I'm paraphrasing because I don't know the exact quote, but a lot of people think that once you get rich, you're untethered, you can say whatever you want.

It's actually the opposite. There are people who make 60K a year who are scared to lose their jobs. So they fall in line. They refuse to speak out. These big Hollywood celebrities who make millions of dollars are even more scared to speak out because a fall from grace is much more embarrassing than just getting fired. And so the more money they make, the more likely they are to march with the machine. Golden handcuffs. Golden handcuffs are real. That's like what Kanye West was saying at one point. The more fame he got, the more people were trying to tell him what to do all the time. That's the people who piss me off.

It's not the people who make $60K a year. I understand. You've got to pay your mortgage. You've got to help your kids get through school, all those things. If you have $20 million or more, you'll have the rest of your life an amazing life. The people that really piss me off are the ones who are rich and are cowards. Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense too, because it's true. If you're working some job and there's human resources and they're going to fire you if you say men aren't women,

then that's a lot harder. Same thing with COVID shots, right? Like, I understand why people had to go. What happened when J.K. Rowling stood up for the gender-critical women and said, you know, men aren't women, and I'm going to put my money where my mouth is. I'm just going to say it outright. The first time she said it, her publicist was like, no, she's just old. She didn't really say that. She got a touch. She was wrong.

And no, and then, you know, it took her. That was in June of whatever year it was. And then it took her until December when she put up the mega viral post and everyone got very mad. But you know what else happened was thousands and thousands of women and parents took the opportunity to speak their mind as well. Yeah. And so when you have someone who is powerful and has a lot of money and has a big platform and stands up and says, you know, like you do this, Tim. And then people have courage to say what they believe, too. You know, all it really takes is one person.

And J.K. Rowling is a good example because she did then follow up with financial with with she followed up financially. She invested in that women's clinic for women who are victims of rape and assault to go specifically to only be with female staff members and then she doubled down and said no you can't uh allow trans identifying people they have the national health service there are other research and this is for specifically for women no fellas i mean it's what rape crisis it was almost as if speaking out i know it's a crazy concept but it's almost as if speaking out really uh changed the way she was spending because she was you know donated all kinds kinds of super woke causes before. But I think some of this is is similar to why people like Donald Trump.

Right. Like he has the money to which he could say, I'm going to live my life however I want to. And he chooses to do something that's pro-America with Kamala Harris. I mean, she is fundamentally wealthier than than most Americans. And she is still looking to everyone around her to say, what can I do for validation and to gain power? There is weakness in that position. I would also point out J.K. Rowling is really good at what she does and that talent ultimately allows you the freedom to do a lot.

They're making new Harry Potter shows all of a sudden at Warner Brothers. They're expanding the theme park there because she's a kick-ass talent. And I got to address this meme that's been going around forever. And it's this meme that claims, it says that in the Harry Potter universe, there's a spell that can, it's silent, it's secret, you can just kill anybody and people aren't just killing each other all the time. And for those that aren't familiar with Harry Potter, there is the killing curse, which is a component of the story where you can point your wand, say words,

and the person dies. Avada Kedavra. Avada Kedavra. And people... That is a super nerd. I knew it too. I'm glad that you... But here's the interesting thing.

J.K. Rowling, I actually think, did a really great job in writing this. The one thing I think is interesting is that she's basically written books about children who have the equivalent of guns, or worse, and they're running around schools. But anyway, I digress. I'm seeing a lot of people attack J.K. Rowling now because of the trans issue, acting like all of a sudden everything she did was wrong.

And in this meme, they're saying, oh, the reason this makes no sense is because she's a terrible writer. She's never been good. Nobody likes her. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. People have guns all over the place. People in West Virginia are armed to the teeth. Nobody's walking around shooting each other. Whether you can point a wand or a gun at somebody, people just don't just kill each other. But I believe the criticism and the memes largely come out of she has turned on the woke left and they have turned on her. And now Harry Potter must be bad. Meanwhile, you also have like trans advocates who say things like, you know, J.K. Rowling gave us a place to feel like being freaky was normal and we could just be ourselves. And now we hate her so much. So we're going to divorce J.K. Rowling from the work she created.

And they've been trying to, you know, they've been like trying to put out versions of her books that don't have her in it, trying to keep her out of properties in that franchise, even though it's 100% hers. Didn't they keep her out of the reunion? There was an HBO reunion, and they referenced old interviews with her, but she was not in that. I thought that made me not watch it. I don't give a rat's whatever. I don't know. I can't not curse properly. But I don't care what rat's whatever. I don't know. I can't not curse properly.

But I don't care what Daniel Radcliffe has to say or what's her name, Hermione Granger. Emma Watson. Yeah, Emma Watson, who turned out to be such a little brat. She's terrible. I think that ultimately what's happening, though, is her talent is so substantial that Warner Brothers has now come come back paid her hundreds of millions of dollars more and they're saying please give us more of your content is rare yeah talent is rare and and world creation and so is bravery unbelievable world creation like

that was the one thing when i started reading this was with my kid and i started reading it i was like the the most brilliant thing in those books is the world. You read the books before your kids read them or no? Oh, yeah. Well, he was little and we saw them at a book sale for a dollar each at the book sale at the library near my grandma's house. And so we bought them all and I started reading them with him when he was like five or something. And then I just stayed up all night reading. I read them all when I was in law school because I wanted something. I was in grade school.

Yeah. Oh, wow. all when I was in law school. Yeah. Because I wanted something. I was in grade school. Yeah. Wow. I wanted something that just took me away from the serious things in my life. And so I would read them all. The world creation is unbelievable. It's phenomenal. I love her. I read it after grad school. I read the books as they came out.

That's very cool. I remember being a teenager and I think the seventh book came out when I turned 21 or like shortly after I was 21. And I had friends who were like, wow when the final book is written, we're going to be 20. And I was like, I don't know, 14 or 15 or something. And it seemed like a long way away. I didn't have kids yet. I remember going to get

the books when they came out feeling a little weird. You know, like because it was a kid party. I like pretending you're giving them to your nephew. Now I've got kids. Let's jump back to the news. We've got this story from Interactive Polls. The latest from Nate Silver projecting Donald Trump with a 56.7% chance of winning with swing states swinging to Trump. Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina, and Nevada with only Michigan and Wisconsin going to Kamala Harris. Polymarket now has Trump at 51 percent. Could this be why we are seeing the Harris campaign now come out with more egregious and misleading statements?

Well, did you see at the rally that she had with Biden in Pennsylvania over the weekend? She said something to the effect of, you know, we know this race is going to be very competitive. We can't pay attention to polls right now. Her campaign at one point was bragging about all these headlines that were saying she was winning in these swing states and she was ahead. And now she's telling her supporters like, oh, well, you know, we can't, we don't know what the polls are going to say. Like just sort of shifting away from them because it's not, it's not the headlines that she wants anymore. I think what's happening here is the voters in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin are going to decide this race. And a lot of those voters are old white guys. And Joe Biden was able to

convince those old white guys that he was unthreatening and that he would be a very normal president. That wasn't true, but he was able to convince him. Kamala's not doing that. And I think what Nate Silver's prediction reflects is there's starting to be a little bit of panic setting in because those old white guys are looking at Kamala and they're like, this ain't Scranton Joe. This is not 80-year-old Joe Biden, who's just the same age as Trump, but maybe a little bit less active on Twitter. Things will get back to normal. This is Kamala Harris, who doesn't have kids of her own, who is 60 years old herself, kind of weird, not very normal, frankly.

And I think the data is starting. I think they're starting to panic. I think that's why they put out the clip about you. I think that's why they got 10 or 15 other clips already saved that they're going to put out to try to build on this threat of Trump as Hitler. You don't think Tim Walz is helping the white men in the Midwest believe in Kamala Harris? You know what the problem is? I don't think that's working well.

I don't think so either. He's so clearly little, he's such a little puffy man that doesn't seem to have any spine at all. Like you try, try and imagine him being in the military at all. It's just like laughable. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, that's why they tried to play up this coach thing. I mean, maybe you could talk about this with the impact on sports in American psychology, but they, they had to immediately shift away from the veteran perspective because it was just not working for obvious reasons. And so they're saying coach walls coach you know the only person i know in government who uses that nickname is tommy tuberville out of alabama who actually is pretty principled and you

know seems like he projects himself pretty masculine tim walls does not tim wall seems like just the annoying suburban you know president of the hoa who's policing your lawn and not being nice to anyone in the neighborhood well his brother doesn't like him i saw that but when he came out and spoke what she what you just hit on is so important he's the governor of minnesota did you see the placards that they were holding said coach walls yeah they didn't call him governor walls well they'd never refer to kamala harris as vice president right you know they only talked about they're trying to run as if she's new they're like oh she's this outsider she's a california prosecutor they

don't even talk about her time in the senate because she didn't get anything done she was completely ineffectual she was ultra liberal and she was you know a meaningless entity there he was 25 years ago an assistant coach he wasn't even the head coach. They call him Coach Waltz. He's not even currently coaching the kids. It was a quarter century ago, and they're standing there with placards for Coach Waltz. I think it's a clear attempt to try to appeal to what I call the Big Ten voters. And I don't think that she's going to connect with them at all. And I think that data is starting to reflect that she is not. And the panic is going to get more intense.

And if Trump can just stay the course, I think that she's going to self-destruct. I wonder if, you know, because people talk about the DNC bump didn't emerge or whatever. But also Donald Trump's been doing a lot of these podcasts. I think that's so great. I think that may be boosting him. You know, let me tell you guys a secret. It's not really a secret, but, you know, we work with some advertisers periodically and they we often hear shock at how well ads perform when they sponsor this show there. They say, like, you know, we spend twice as much advertising

on other platforms or, you know, television, radio, billboard. But IRL, man, it's like, man, you guys as fans, look at what Matt Gaetz says about the show. Not even from an advertising perspective, just he meets people all the time who are big fans. They run up to him, yeah. But here's the reality. It's because this is just a show. Whereas the other shows are bots and fake numbers puffed up so they can sell ads. We're membership driven. I'm not relying on selling ad spots. I don't need

to puff the numbers up and say we get 10 million views. I don't need to do that. Because then if you do, you go to an advertiser and you say 10 million views, you know, is what we're going to get you and you're going to give us X amount of dollars. And then they sell, you know, 10 widgets or whatever. They sponsor Timcast and we're like, here's our viewership. And they're like, wow, we sold way more than we normally do for this for this rate. That's what I see with with Kamala Harris. That's what I see with Donald Trump doing this podcast. Trump starts going on these podcasts.

This is where the audience actually is, where the key demo actually is. And these television programs, these cable TV news shows have passive viewers who are either in hotel lobbies or airports or they're at home. They're not really paying attention. And you do not connect the same. Trump starts doing these podcasts with all these different people. People are starting to hear him. And now they're going, oh. Yeah, he's going to where the people are. And I think that's so important.

It's also reflective of the campaign that he's really been trying to run, you know, repeatedly since 2016. I can't believe that this is the third, maybe basically fourth, don't pick Trump campaign that the DNC has launched. If they were smart, and really what I'm saying is, if Kamala Harris had any charisma or personality, she would go on the equivalent to these kind of podcasts. She would go on all these shows. She would go and call her daddy, that like feminist girl boss, whatever podcast. Like, she would go to these places that are going to lob her 100 softball questions and people are going to say but she's cool and trendy little npr shows but she can't do it she should come on timcast irl yeah she should come on timcast irl that would be pretty great but she won't and it's because she can't i mean unless she can bring her best buddy tim walls with her

right she doesn't do anything i think it also is reflective of if you spend 45 minutes or an hour with somebody, it's hard to caricature them. Well, I'll tell you, for a show like this, the reason why it's so hard to get Democrats is because we we don't let people just say it. Like, let me give you an example. A better a better way to describe this. When Dana Bash was like, you said you carried a weapon of war in war. He goes, well, my grammar is not so good. My wife says that. But, you know, it's not that. They're going to go after my kids. And on this show, I'd be like, yeah, dude, but you said you were in war.

I mean, own it. Just say you're sorry or whatever. We can move on. But you can't just gloss over it and not answer the question. You come on a show like this or any other podcast for that matter, they're not going to let you get away with that. I think that's right. That was a great trend.

I thought that Vivek Ramaswamy started when he was running during the primaries and stuff. He would go on any show that asked him on. I think J.D.'s doing that. J.D.'s doing that. Oh, we've got to get J.D. on the show. You see Trump. That's awesome. But you see Trump going on

so many podcasts. He's going out to where the voters are. I saw the fox news stat trump and jd did 34 national shows between the two of them in august i think walls and harris did one i was gonna say i think harris has done fewer interviews than joe biden has and he is notoriously withdrawn from the media i mean are, are you telling me that the guy who we think has dementia is better able to talk to the press than you are and you want to be the president? You know, this this J.D., this Vance weird campaign they're doing. Yeah, I actually think

it works to a certain degree because J.D. Vance is so normal. And I do mean that he is not if he was wearing a cowboy hat and would go on shows and just bombastically yell and bang the table and bang a cowbell whenever he was making a point. You could call him all sorts of things. And then he'd yell over you. Donald Trump talks over people famously. Excuse me. Excuse me. And then he jumps in.

He doesn't let you get away with it. J.D. Vance is too mild mannered and normal. So when they make these things about him, he just like that's ridiculous and it's not a strong enough reaction I also think they are devious and diabolical and most people don't know J.D. Vance exactly you can characterize him however you would like I mean I'll give you an example I was looking at favorables today Tim Walls has like 20 points higher favorability right now than J.D. Vance. Tim Walls is weird. I mean, you want to talk about weird. I mean, the guy lied about his DUI. The guy's claiming to be a coach 25 years after he did it. Assistant coach. Assistant. I'm praying to be, yes, but still bragging about it. But you were saying before he was never actually a head

coach. Never actually a head coach. Yeah. I mean, for most people who are in sports, the guy who is the assistant coach doesn't brag about winning the state championship. Right. I mean, Bill Belichick won six Super Bowls. Nobody knows all the assistants and how many Super Bowls they won. You are the head coach. You get credit for the wins or the losses. The assistant coaches don't and so but they have

been so good about characterizing Tim Walz as the normal football guy because they have so many more media assets Walz hasn't even done interviews but the other thing too is they really they really play up Walz being the stupid white guy yeah which I don't think really plays that well with voters who are, you know, so many young white men are flocking to Trump. They don't want to be

the stupid white guy. They don't eat, you know, tuna fish and mayonnaise tacos. They don't do any of this stuff. Who does that? Yeah, I've never heard of anybody doing that.

Literally no one does that. You remember that little scripted episode they did? Yeah, I know. You know? What is it like? Mayonnaise and tuna fish? Yeah, like, white man tacos. He also tells you what Kamala Harris thinks of white men. That's called a did. Yeah, I know. You know? What is it like? Mayonnaise and tuna fish? Yeah, like,

white man tacos. It also tells you what Kamala Harris thinks of white men. That's called a wrap. Yeah. You take a tortilla and you put tuna on it,

you call it a tuna wrap. Right. It's like a little snack, maybe. I don't know. My kid eats tuna. A little romaine. But they also, to your point.

But you also had, but Tim Waltz, several years ago, won a recipe contest with a spicy dish. It was chock full of cayenne pepper. So on top of everything else, they are clearly trying to play him up

as the stupid white guy. And that's probably also a lie. He like, you know, eats cayenne pepper. He's a master chef. I think it had tater tots in it or whatever. It was a taco hot dish

with various spices, garlic, onion, peppers, cayenne, whatever. Rather than being like, I am a proud Midwesterner and we love casseroles. He instead was like, I am your dumb white sidekick,

which is essentially Obama-Biden 2.0. That he was this cool guy from the city and he was going to be our first black president. Except that Lee Biden had a career going back to the 70s. Yeah, except in this case,

she has no charm and at least obama had some charisma and he is untrustworthy and people even democrats know that so camo hat camo hat tired of the of the stupid white guy trope like the camo hat is perfect example of that yeah that's for sure we're gonna put emff wearing it. That's what I'm saying. It's when you go to Brooklyn and somebody in Brooklyn is like, I love Bud Light. I drink Bud Light all the time. They're ironically drinking a Bud Light. They drink the PBR as well. Even the camo hat thing.

I'm going to wear camo and hide out on the subway. The camo hat thing is stolen from Chapel Rowan, the pop singer. She tweeted, is this a joke? Because that's her merch. That's how uncreative and brainless this campaign is. They're relying on pop culture figures to make these two irrelevant, not personable people seem like they are worth your time and energy. And her wearing the hat actually is not endearing to Southerners, but to hipster Brooklynites. Correct.

That is what they will. They don't need to endure themselves. Southerners are used to seeing people in camo, so we don't think, oh my goodness, I like this person because they're wearing camo. Of course not. You like them or not like them.

The trope would be a guy in a flannel shirt with rolled up sleeves and a mullet and like a trucker hat, and you'd be like, where do you think that person lives? And everyone's going to be like, the South. No, that's Brooklyn. In in the south they're probably wearing like

jeans and a t-shirt i'll come back to this yeah it only goes one way no one in the south tries to pretend they're from new york right like no politician for instance if you i don't know who's a successful southern politician right now like ted cruz doesn't go to New York City and try to pretend that he's from New York City because it would look ridiculous. If anything, he doesn't wear a bolo tie. Yet people from New York try to pretend that they're from Texas all the time and it's considered normal. I would say like as someone who lived in New York for like 20 something years, I hate that. Like whenever I would see New Yorkers walking around in cowboy boots, I'd just be like, just put on some proper shoes. You look ridiculous.

You know, and now there's this whole trend in New York of like cowboy country stuff. Oh, yeah. Because of the Beyonce thing. Well, they tried to claim that Beyonce, New York Times, I remember seeing the headline, and I couldn't believe it. I meant to take a picture of it. It's like Beyonce makes cowboys popular. And I'm like, cowboys have been pretty popular for a long time.

Beyonce wearing a cowboy hat. And that's why she wrote a Western album. Like her company looked around and was like, we got to keep you relevant. Write a Western country album. We saw this with OutKick because OutKick came out of the SEC and the Big Ten, the middle part of the country. And then New York and LA became aware that we existed and it got popular there too. But it's kind of like the television show Yellowstone.

Yellowstone took off in the middle part of the country and then everybody suddenly in New York and LA. Everybody in New York and LA suddenly realized it was popular. But I think part of that is the insecurity with New York and LA not realizing that they're not the center of everything that's ever occurred and not wanting to acknowledge that anything in the middle part of the country could actually be great I live in Nashville I don't want to live in New York or LA it literally called flyover yeah and it is like that old New Yorker cover you remember that and it's like the New

Yorkers view of the world yes like New like New York, Queens, New Jersey. That perfect, perfect example of that. Do you guys remember when the power went out in New York? Which time? Like 20 years ago. You mean in 2002? And the whole media was like, oh my goodness, the power's out. I was there. I have, I remember exactly where I was. Of course you do because you're in New York at that time. But the rest of us were sitting around in the country and it was, it was as if New York had fallen off the planet.

There's that. There's that. Yes. 1976, New York view, and it's 10th Avenue, 9th Avenue, Hudson River, and then just barren desert and then Pacific Ocean. Yeah, that seems exactly right. Jersey and beyond doesn't exist. But, I mean, New Yorkers are proud of this. They're proud of who they are, and they're proud of their city, and, like, God bless them.

But, yeah, the 14th Street substation blew up. I was a little excited. Oh, I remember. I mean, it was, I think Detroit also got a little bit. Detroit power went out, but yeah, it was, the world had come to a close. Aliens had landed. That was a great weekend, I gotta say. I think there was a time in American media, though,

where New York really did seem like this wonderful place. Like, so many movies are set in New York. People will flock there at Christmas for things. But that's like someplace Americans like to visit. They don't want to be there. And I think that's reflective of the politicians, right? They all posture as if they have rural small town ties because ultimately that's where most Americans live and want to stay. This idea that New York would be the Mecca for all things is sort of delusional.

Yeah. Well, it'll come back. Okay, New Yorker. Spoken like a New Yorker. I had this one family friend. She's a generational, you know, grandparents, great grandparents. Everyone was in New York. And she looked at me one time. She was like, well, New York is the center of the universe. And she's not wrong. Yeah. I'm going to let's jump to the story from The New York Post. Biden whines. Secret Service doesn't let me engage with crowds. I saw this and i just it's funny because

i can't remember who tweeted it but they were like isn't it funny that as soon as joe biden drops out of the 2024 race he just stopped pretending to be president yeah he's on vacation for like weeks and weeks and he's not doing anything no and you even had kamala harris going out there being like me and joe working around the clock and trying to get these hostages freed. Meanwhile, the hostages are getting murdered. Joe Biden's on a beach and she's, you know, like they had him speak before her at this rally in Pennsylvania. That's how irrelevant he is now. He is the sitting president and they don't give him any sort of dignity.

They're just like, please, please stay over there. Yeah. Occasionally come out with some sort of stern finger shaking at Netanyahu and then go back. Leave. Go away. How about his approval ratings have gone up and he hasn't worked for a month? Do you see that? His approval ratings have gone up like nine points. These are like

sympathy approval ratings. They're not real approval ratings. No, I think that makes sense. His approval rating goes up, it has. It's gone up because they're like, thank heavens Joe Biden is not doing his He's not going to run again. Also, he's not the guy. He's not working anymore.

There haven't been the, I mean, every time he spoke, even when he spoke at this most recent rally, he got all stumbly and everything else. When he doesn't speak people forget that he's incompetent at being able to be president and they like him more infirm yes well he's just a kindly old man that's why he couldn't be held accountable for absconding with classified documents that he wasn't entitled to at the end of his vice presidential term i mean to have an actual independent counsel say the president of the United States brain doesn't work well enough for him to be charged with a crime. But you guys have to keep him as your president. Charge Trump even though there's the Presidential Records Act and he gets to decide what's classified

and what's not at the end of his term and what belongs to him and what doesn't. The whole time. What do you think Joe Biden's legacy is going to be? Because that's what I feel like his team is now pivoting into. That's all they care about. They're just trying to wrap it up so that at the end people are like, it wasn't that bad. I think it's going to be that he was an accidental president like Jimmy Carter was. And COVID, this is my theory, COVID got him into office like Watergate got Jimmy Carter into office. Interesting. And people will look back at it and say it because if COVID doesn't happen, I think Trump would have smoked him in 2020. But let's just hope that's true and the legacy of Biden is more like Carter and not Buchanan.

Well, yeah, good Lord. I hope that's a good historical reference for a Civil War nerd like me. But given where we are, the state breaking up West Virginia and Virginia and everything else but I think you look at um I think for Biden Kamala's win would change his legacy tremendously because then it's he's oh he gave up power and passed to the next generation those strong black woman the whole thing if she loses to Trump then it's the jimmy carter which is what i think is going to happen but if he wins he's like the bridge to the next generation they're going to make him a civil rights icon and they're going to say he was the old white male who gave up power

for a younger woman of color signifying you know all of these things i asked you guys i'm curious what happens if if kamala loses Trump's going to be 80. Trump is elderly, right? So, I mean, Trump's legacy is going to be substantial no matter what. Where does Kamala go if she loses this race? Oh, she could get, you know, university president position, something like that. But, I mean, that's a tremendous drop-off, right? Because I don't know that she has a skill set that would suggest that she could do anything very well.

Well, that's why she needs to do a figurehead position. And there's a lot of these figurehead university presidents we see there just swapping a minute out at like Columbia and Harvard. Like it clearly just doesn't matter. And if she were more charismatic, she would pivot to sort of what Hillary Clinton was doing for a while there. You know, the I was wronged and I deserve something and it was taken from me. So I must rally and charge huge amounts of money for speaking fees. Right. She would just kind of make money off of being this woman who Trump stole her rightful place in the White House. But she's not she's not charming

enough. She's not a good speaker. And so in some ways we have to not me specifically, but someone has to shuffle her off into a position where we can like bring her out to wave at political rallies, but not to give us any advice. You know what she really could do, though? She could join up with Ella Emhoff and start attending those knitting clubs at bars on the Lower East Side in the back garden. And then she could do like little knit Kamala Harris dolls. And then those dolls could be featured in her niece's children's books. And they could just do like a whole new family undertaking of little stupid things.

Maybe. I do think her husband might get an intern pregnant if she were to win. So that's something we could think about for a new scandal. I mean, that would be... New scandal, right? I said if I got to ask Kamala any questions, which I never will, I would love to say, you don't think Donald Trump has the character to be president. You've said that quite a lot.

Yet you waited until you were 49 to get married and married a man who got his nanny pregnant to break up his first marriage. Why are you the judge of character? And she never had any kids. And I wonder about that, actually, because she clearly had plenty of relationships. Why was this intent? Did she? I think that goes to Kamala's insecurity you think so she's a my theory if i wanted to psychoanalyze her she didn't get married till she was 49 she's an

attractive woman she was a lawyer she passed the bar she lived in california and was in theory a catch yet at 29 years old she was sleeping with a married 60-year-old man. Yeah, yeah. Like that's not a normal 29-year-old thing to do, which is why my— That is an insecure 29-year-old thing to do. Someone who doesn't have a father in her life. Something's going on there. She has no kids of her own.

Yeah, there's Ella Emhoff and Ella Emhoff's brother, who we don't see that much. We don't even know what his name is. Ella Emhoff has Ella Emhoff's brother who we don't see that we don't even know what his name is Ella Emhoff has an Instagram and she does weird stuff on it well and after when uh Kamal became the VP I she got signed to some modeling achievement Ella Emhoff is like she did a poster child for like do not send your kids to Brooklyn look at what happens to them she got signed like that day the the head of that agency I forget who it was, showed up at the inauguration and then Elohimov got signed. But I think it is why Kamala is so insecure. Because I think if she were married for a long time and she had kids, that provides

you a semblance of normalcy outside of an abnormal arena. And so I think it keeps you from getting so wrapped up in your head and concerned about what other people think about you because you actually have someone else who relies on you. Kamala's never had anyone in her entire life that has needed her for anything. Should we make it a new constitutional amendment? You can't run for office unless you have children? That would have kept James Buchanan out of it.

My first one would be you have to be under the age of 65 uh because i do think that age factors and if you can't fly an airplane 70 i'd be okay with if you can't fly an airplane i don't think you should be able to be present in the united states but i do think that having kids is like being religious it tells us something that there is something that matters more to you than power. You can't be 71 at the time of inauguration would be the rule I think would be good. If we gave 35 to 70, that's a 35-year window. But I mean, I think religion and kids, one or the other, ideally both in many ways, shows that something other than you matters. You have supreme power. What do you mean religion?

Like in what way? I mean that there is something larger. Like believing in God. Yeah, believing in God. Of any type. I'm not saying you have to be a particular religion, but just believing that there are moral consequences beyond your own life. And kids are that, right? I care more about my kids than anything.

I think if you're pursuing the biggest power of all time, that has a balancing act. I don't agree with that for a moral and philosophical reason. People believe a bunch of things. And I don't know. I just – I wouldn't want to – I don't agree with that. I just – whatever. But there's a better, there's a better reason other than my personal feelings, which are irrelevant. And it's that they just lie. They'll be like, you got to believe in God. They'll be like, okay, I do. Here, let me swear on your Bible I don't believe in. So it's,

I think kids is a better metric. Yeah. You have to have, you have to have a tie to the future. But for someone who seems to have sacrificed everything for the pursuit of power and her professional career, Kamala does seem like a directionless person. Like you started this by asking, where does she go from here? Like if she loses, what's next for her? And that's sort of fascinating because I think we all kind of agree, or at least I definitely feel like she is almost surprised she's in the position she's in at all. I mean, I think the fact that she was in a position to run for president was sort of surprising to her. She didn't really run a cohesive, intense campaign in 2020. It's sort of, you know, she would put out these really

liberal policies, but she didn't really gain the momentum as someone who's devoted their whole lives to rising to the top political office in America. And so to me, in addition to the, you know, family aspects, like, why didn't you prioritize having children? What happened there where marriage was sort of a last minute priority for you? You know, what is she about? What are her directions? Because she's not even achieving a goal that seems to have been what her life would have been about. Did she even want to be here? What was Kamala Harris's purpose for all the things that she did up until now? Because you can't say anything about that. Let me give you an example of that. I think Kamala seems the most authentic version of herself when she talks about cooking. And I mean, there are all different sorts of passions where I was

making, like, I love history and some, I love college football. I love the NFL if you find someone's passion we all seem to like Harry Potter like who doesn't you're not faking the way you react to something that you're passionate about right and so when I've seen to the extent that there is an authentic version of Kamala Harris it's like oh I kind of buy in that she cares about spices or that she cares about what her Thanksgiving dinner is going to be or having people over and cooking or breaking a freaking egg with one hand, which she seems really proud of. None of that for politics seems like actually it connects with her, which goes to the question of did she just kind of end up doing what she did and there wasn't some game plan to it? It's just she took the next step every time. She's the Mr. Magoo of politics.

She's bumbling around. She's politically blind and she walks on the steel beam and then gets lifted up to the 10th floor and is walking in circles. Has no idea what's going on. Don't want to be there. I mean, she's sleeping with the 60 year old married guy he gets her and evidently nobody can talk about this he gets her two jobs that pay her four hundred thousand dollars that's a ton of money right and that leads to that leads to this job and then she's like oh I you know I'm okay at this as a DA or whatever I'll continue to take the next step I just the reason why I think Kamala losing is so fascinating is because I don't know what she

cares about enough to want to do if she didn't have the job celebrity cooking show I mean maybe so and by the way what if she was incredibly likable on that you might watch it and be like and hey she seems like a really good person on this. I got to be honest. If Kamala was sitting there and she was like, well, the first thing you got to do is you got to take the red peppers. I'd be okay with her laughing. Randomly for no reason. I'd be like, she's having a good time cutting those peppers.

And then you watch her put the olive oil on it. Yeah, maybe instead of doing like a feminist girl boss podcast, she should go on like Rachel Ray's cooking show. She needs to do a show with Martha Stewart and whip something up. And other bubbly wine moms. Yeah, this will be her next act. This, if she loses, you know, God willing, this will be her next act. It will be Kamala's

cooking show. But I actually, you guys, I'm on Netflix. Kamala's kitchen cooking. I love it. You have a kitchen in here. Like, I could buy. Every episode she would do a cuisine of a different nation and take on that accent. By the way, this is going to be the next clip that they grab. It's going to be Clay Travis tells Kamala Harris to go back to the kitchen. I'll do it.

I think that's an acceptable thing to say. But I actually think she would really enjoy that job and be honest when she's talking about what her favorite recipe is. I don't think I've, I don't think she has a foundational core. I think that's the biggest challenge. What does she really desperately care about? Do you think at night she goes to Doug and she's like, I just want to quit, but I know I can't. He's like, you got to keep going. We could be in the white house. Like maybe she doesn't want to do this. I think on some level, like Al Gore, I don't think ever really liked being a politician, but he just wanted to make his dad happy. Oh, is that right?

And so he kept doing it. That was a dad thing? Yeah. I think it came from his dad who was a senator and like, it's just like kind of the direction that he went. And then when he lost, he seemed so much happier not being involved in politics. He got to like make his stupid movies about lies about climate change. But that was his true passions. But think about that. That was his passion. Like he became,

I mean, he's a Tennessee Senator. It's not like people in my state are sitting around like, Hey, no, we really care about the polar ice caps melting, but that desperately mattered to him. And I just, I i don't what would kamala do i think cooking might be the answer yeah i think it's uh let's jump to this story from nbc news this is crazy two u.s marines assaulted in turkey by nationalist mob chanting yankee go home a video of the incident showed someone placing a bag over the head of the marine so this uh this happened in uh what city was this? It was in Turkey and it was Izmir.

So these were, what were these? Were these Marines? Because I've heard it reported both that they were just Navy, but others saying that they were Marines. I've always seen Marines.

I've seen Marines. Yeah. The group restrained one Marine before one of them places a bag over his head. Moments later, another man can be seen charging the group.

None of the service members are in uniform. I'll pull that video up in a second, but I want to jump to this too. I want this to be a part of it. Turkey is seeking to join BRICS. This is massive on the global stage. Turkey joins BRICS, putting Western control of the Bosphorus at risk. Not that we're very happy with how Turkey operates as it is, but the Bosphorus connects the Black Sea to the Mediterranean. So this is shifting global power from NATO in the West into BRICS, which means big bad things for the United States. You combine these kinds of stories with Turkish nationalists attacking U.S. personnel. We have real problems. Oh, yeah.

It's almost as though the best thing for the United States would be to close the border, become energy independent, and bring American manufacturing back. Okay, Donald Trump. Perhaps. It is funny how we have solutions to these problems, and we just apparently cannot implement them without, I don't know, being racist? Question mark?

I think this goes to, we have an inability to acknowledge good and evil exist in the country. We have an inability to acknowledge good and evil exist in the country. We have an inability to acknowledge good and evil because we abandoned religion. We replaced God with the false idol of self and replaced the soul with gender. And now we have completely and totally lost our way. You know, gender and identity.

We do have the video. We can pull this up. It's, uh... They just are screaming and they look at this. Wow. And they start punching him. So apparently a bunch of these guys got arrested, but Bricks wants their own currency. Saudi Arabia is off the petrodollar.

Oil is being traded internationally in yuan and rubles. The American empire is done. And we're cutting back on Gulf of Mexico drilling for some reason, because the Biden and Harris administration doesn't want us to do that anymore. So question, because we've talked about this a couple of years ago. Is this the intentional decline of the United States in order to avoid Thucydides' trap? That was sort of the Obama thing, right? That was sort of the rumor of Obama that he thought that his job was to manage the decline of the United States.

The fear being that with China rising on the global scale, whenever there's a rising economic power that is on the verge of supplanting the dominant power, there is a very high tendency for large scale war to break out. The liberal economic order has believed since the 50s, this is Council on Foreign Relations people, high level U.S. and European politicians believe that another world war would end humanity. So is this them saying, OK, transfer our assets to China? China's taking over and the United States and move on? I actually think China's decline is more dangerous than America's decline. And this is where I come in with where I think Elon Musk is correct.

You were mentioning like, you know, the climate change and all those things. And you asked about kids and presidents and everything else, which I think is an interesting question. China's population has peaked. And if you look at the projections because of the one-child China, in the next 50 or 60 years, China's population could be cut in half. They got rid of that, though. Now they have, but the problem is it's so locked in. And they had so many more male children than female children and all those things. Yeah, they killed their little babies.

But one of the aspects of history, if you study it, is wars often happen not when countries are at their peak power, but when the peak power has passed and you can see a rapid decline coming. Which is why I worry that China, in a decline, begins to act more aggressively than China on the ascent. Because if China thought, hey, in 40 years, we're going to be the superior economy to the United States, I think they could afford to wait. My concern is in 40 years, China is going to be severely diminished. And I think my concern on the United States side there is, in 1980, I was mentioning Jimmy Carter. He got defeated to a large, for many reasons, but one was because Iran had taken the hostages, and he was so weak that he couldn't get them back. Hirsch Goldberg, Poland's mother, spoke at the DNC, and a few weeks later, Hamas put a bullet in the back of that kid's head.

They trotted her out on stage to beg for her son's life. Wow. And then she just spoke at her son's funeral. Yeah. And Hamas disrespected American power to such an extent and did not fear our retaliation that they put a bullet in that kid's head right after his mom spoke at the DNC.

Wow. Evil, and I do believe Hamas is evil, responds to fear and power. They have no fear of us, and they do not believe that we have the power to act. Well, and they're kind of right, because, you know, the United States instructed Israel on how to correct their self-defense and said, you know, stay out of Rafah. And now an American's been killed. An American civilian's been killed. Did you see the report that a Kremlin official had said Kamala Harris is more predictable than Trump? I think on a lot of fronts internationally, everyone looks at the Biden-Harris administration and the potential Harris-Walls administration as a signal of the downturn of America. It signals weakness. They know that they can do.

Well, of course it does signal weakness. They know they'll be able to do things and they have been able to do things under Biden that Trump would just never allow. And part of that is just inherent personality. Trump is better on the international stage and he brings more diplomatically to the White House than than anyone the Democrats have currently offered. Putin and Xi fear Trump because they're not sure of what he's going to do. And that's one of the best things about Trump. That's right. That he's unpredictable. So, you know, if if you come out there and do something terrible to the United States, Trump might just be like, ah, nuke him.

And that's perfectly plausible. And I love that. But he breaks game theory. That's what it is. Like, you know what Biden's going to do or what Kamala's going to do. They're going to do like a proportionate response. And they're going to say, like, give a little. You've got a poker table in here.

The toughest guy to play poker against is a guy you don't know whether he's bluffing or not oh that's it's it can make different choices based on that well let's let's let's play that uh analogy because i love it um when you're playing against your average player in poker you have a general idea of the kind of hands they're going to play the moves they're going to make and try to predict them but when someone shows up who doesn't know what they're doing this is actually this is fascinating i'll try to predict them. But when someone shows up who doesn't know what they're doing, this is actually, this is fascinating. I'll try to explain this in the least jargony way possible. If you're playing with a bunch of regular guys

and they're all of moderate skill, are you a big player? I'm not great. I'm not great at math, sadly, but I love poker. So, yes. So you might, I might, if I'm playing at a game and I know that all the players are regulars, they play all the time. I might actually try to exploit that and play a weaker hand. Maybe I could bluff. Maybe I can try and come underneath. What does that mean? So if two guys are making big bets, they might both have ace king. They might, and then they're blocking

each other, it's called. So I might play five, six suited, which has a lower percentage chance to win, but because they're bumping into each other, I'm going to take them both out. The problem arrives when a dude shows up who's dumb as a box of rocks but loaded and bets on anything and everything. Now, it restricts you to only a very small range of hands to play because the guy is going to bet everything no matter what. And there's something called fold equity. I mean, I'm getting to a jargony. The point is this. When you get a wild card like Trump, you have to play as tight and as close to the chest as possible because there's no room for error. There's no bluffing. Trump's going to call you down. You say, I'm going to invade. I'll nuke you. And you go, he might. Yeah. You know, Biden won't do it. Biden's scared of fallout. Trump, you might be thinking, Trump's more scared of his base, and his base wants action.

So Trump had that famous interview, the phone call, where he said he told Xi and Putin, he told Xi, if you invade Taiwan, I'm going to nuke Beijing. And Putin, if you invade Ukraine, I'm going to nuke Moscow. He's like, I don't know if they believed me, maybe 5%, but it was enough. Yeah, I think that's 100% right. And that bothers the quote unquote foreign relations experts because they want to have their back channel conversations and say, well, if you do X, then we're going to do Y. But those authoritarians don't respect the general rules. And so you need people who are willing to upset the calculus. And I think Trump was. I don't think that Putin would have ever invaded Ukraine if Trump were

president. I don't think Hamas would have attacked on October 7th Israel like they did if Trump were president. I really don't. The Wall Street Journal had extensive reporting on the planning of that attack, and it started after Biden came into office. That's when it started, because they knew that there was a weakness. They knew that Biden was vulnerable to his anti-Israel base, and they went for it. And that was planned. More importantly, the Ukraine tensions were escalating under Obama intentionally, and everything froze when Donald Trump got in for a variety of reasons. One, the decimation of ISIS. Under Obama, ISIS was growing and growing out of control. Trump gets in.

Ukraine escalation stops. ISIS obliterated. Biden gets back in. Everything kicks back off again. I mean, this is also true, again, of Russia. If you look at the prisoner swap that just happened recently. I think the only American prisoner who wasn't held captive in Russia or detained in Russia before Biden got into office was Paul Whelan, the U.S. Marine. Everyone else was after Biden was in office.

And, you know, you can say all kinds of things. There's a lot to be skeptical of that prisoner swap. But I really do think that there's a strategic reason that Americans became more vulnerable to being wrongfully detained in Russia after Biden became president. Russia knows Biden is not able to negotiate, and they're looking at Kamala Harris and saying, cool, round two. How about the fact that we got Brittany Griner and they got the merchant of death? Right. They got the like, I mean, she and by the way, she actually violated Russian drug law. So it's not as if she was just grabbed and did nothing wrong.

They're claiming, obviously, that Evan Gersovich was just a Wall Street Journal reporter and did nothing at all wrong. Brittany Griner admitted she violated Russian drug law. And they got the merchant of death back during a freaking war. And we got a WNBA player? it's like the worst trade of all time but they left Mark Fogle who in a similar position also violated Russian drug law but is in much worse condition than Brittany Griner he's got all kinds of health problems he's older and he didn't come home he has the problem that can't be handled which is he's a white guy yeah I mean Brittany Griner if she wasn't a black lesbian basketball player would still be if that was a white guy. Yeah. I mean, Brittany Griner, if she wasn't a black lesbian basketball

player, would still be, if that was a white guy who did what Brittany Griner did, wasn't an athlete, wasn't famous, that person would still be in prison. Do you remember Biden released all the photo ops with her, I don't know, spouse, wife, whatever, from the Oval Office and being like, I was just there having this moment. Like they use that as a celebrity photo op. And yet all of these Americans were detained in Russia because of the Biden administration, because he is a weak president. Again, Harris is, I would say, probably worse. Which is where Trump is right on negotiation.

The thing that Trump gets better than anybody is leverage. You give him, I mean, that's all that real estate guys do, right? They find a leverage point and then they exploit it. And Trump rightly pointed out that every time we make a trade with a terrorist organization in this way, we just incentivize the arrest of more Americans to create more bargaining chips for Russia or other maladroit actors out there. Well, indeed. You guys feeling confident in the Harris-Walls presidency?

Because I'm not. Yeah, I hope that the joy does not propel them into the White House. So I learned something interesting today. Did you guys know that New Order was actually Joy Division? Yes. Yeah, Joy Division, the lead singer, committed suicide. It's very sad. And the band didn't want to carry on. They had agreed

with the rest of the band that should and they would never regroup under the same name if one member were to leave. And because of this, they said we need a new band. Became New Order. Of course, New Order has Blue Monday, which is one of the highest selling songs of all time. And Joy Division was the name of a Nazi unit. And they had to come out and say, that is

not the intention of the name. That's not what we meant. Well, but you know what the Joy Division was? What was it? The Joy Division were call girls. What, really? Yeah, that was the Joy Division. The Joy Division were...

The Nazis? Yeah, well, they were call girls to serve the Nazis. Wow. So when Joy Division made that... Is that what Kamala Harris is talking about now? Is that why they're calling her the Joy Candidate? When Joy Division made that name, they were not saying like we're pro-Nazi. They were saying like Nazis were exploiting women in this way.

No, I think they said that Joy Division was unrelated. I could be wrong. I don't know. Oh, well, whatever it is, if they were using it for that, that's what that was. That's what the Joy Division was. But how good of a song is True Faith? I mean, it's a great song. Great song. That goes on like so many of my playlists.

Absolutely. There's a great... You know the podcast? I'm like, I have no idea. I don't know that I know this song. You know the song. You know the song. These are like quintessentially 80s songs. Can we pull it up? I'm the worst at song names and bands

and everything else. I know college football. We'll get it for you in the members show. Yes, yes. You know Blue Monday, right? Yes, I know that song. Of course. Do you know Song Exploder, that podcast? So they did a breakdown of, I think it was Blue Monday,

and they were talking to the original band members of New Order. And I forget the name of the guy who sang it, but he was like not a singer yeah none of them wanted to sing and none of them wanted to take the place of the you know former was it ian schrager none of them i will say this please i live in nashville hearing songwriters explain how their songs came to be is to me one of the great under discusseddiscussed aspects of all of music. Well, that's what this podcast, Song Exploder, is great. Yeah, right.

That's what I'm saying. It's a great idea. It's a really good podcast. Oh, I love the Kurt Cobain stories. You know how Kurt Cobain's songs came to be? Ian Curtis. He was Ian Curtis. Yeah, Serge has it.

He was high on drugs and groaning. He's Trigger's New York hotelier. So I met, I knew some people who knew Kurt when I lived in Seattle briefly. Yeah. Older guys had worked in the music industry and they were like, a lot of the stuff that he wrote, he was just high and just, that's why like, if you look at Smells Like Teen Spirit, what is that even about? Or even.

So many of the best songs are about nothing. To be fair, Nirvana songs actually, a lot of them do, they are about things for sure. But some of them were just not. I think that's okay. I don't think you have they are about things for sure. But some of them were just not. I think that's okay. I don't think you have to be about something every time. Well, I think most music today is about nothing. It's not about anything. Today it's about self-aggrandizement primarily, I think.

Except for Taylor Swift, who's amazing. Yeah, you know, it's kind of crazy how... I wonder when we look back at the songs that have a big impact compared to where they were at the time. I think the impact of Fortunate Son, for instance, is substantially larger after the fact than it was at the time. It was a big song, of course, but these days it's like representative of an era of the protest of anti-war, you know? I was reading, this is the 25th anniversary of The Matrix, right? Which came out, I believe, in 1999. And if you remember, obviously, the reason why it's set in 1999 in the movie is because

they say that America peaked in 1999. It's technically 200 years later or whatever it is. I kind of think we might have peaked in 1999. I mean, 25 years later later I think it seems like even more true the greatest general reward for everything horrible we'd gone through and that's what we got we got like Calvin Klein wearing black we got you know everybody got along rap music was at its apex I would argue rock music was at its apex now you could have some fun debates if everybody else out there wants.

I think you can argue 80s versus 90s, but in almost anything, and it's a great debate. 90s. I agree with you. I think the 90s. Well, 80s is my favorite. I love 80s music. But everything was like, if you were to line up all the decades, it's like they're all moving in this direction. And then the 80s happens. And then the 90s happens.

But the 90s was the last decade. The 90s was very chill. Last decade. Can I tell a really quick story? So I had these friends who were visual artists in the 90s. And they were all in New York. And they got a gig to make the mothership for P-Funk. And they got thousands of dollars to make this mothership to come out on stage.

But they didn't make it. They like didn't do anything. Instead, they took us all out for, you know, massive sushi dinners. We just had fun with it. And like we all got really messed up and did a lot of drugs and stuff. And then it was two nights before they had to like turn in their thing and have their project and they're all at the big warehouse. And they made it out of like tinfoil PVC pipe.

Was the result good? The result was awesome. It was a killer result. It was the 90s. they made it out of like tinfoil pvc pipe was the result good the result was awesome it was a killer the 90s of course it was we got to go to super chats but i want to say the line the 90s was the last decade and what i mean by that is that you look at the if you look at the 20s the 30s the 40s the 50s the 60s the 70s they all have this cultural distinction the 80s the 80s didn't I mean, leopard print hot pants. Come on. It was nuts. And in the 90s, you had the baggy jeans with the holes in the knees.

Junkos. And alternative music, Junkos. The 2000s have something. There's something there. There's maybe like a little bit of like pop punky emo stuff. But it really seems like the internet kind of ended this. Right. And everything you're describing is basically pre-internet. It was also the 9-11.

9-11 ended a lot of this. I don't think 9-11 ended culture. I think it's the internet. Because I think the early 2000s, it was less so. There was some internet.

It was on the rise. But by 2010, we were an internet culture. And now culture is just... Well, Morrissey is still doing it. Morrissey is still out there being based. And he came out

of the 80s and 90s. There's no unified culture anymore. No, there is definitely not. We've got to go to Super Chats. So smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com. Click join us. Become a member because now more than ever we need your support on this one.

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I appreciate it. Welcome back. And as always, when you decide to be your first. Shane Wilder says, best of luck with the legal action. The need to realize this cannot stand. We need precedent. We need new precedent. It is insane to me that, let's say you, Clay, lie about Libby. Yep.

And you didn't know. I shouldn't say lie. You were wrong. You were wrong. You said Libby kicked a dog. Misinformation. Misinformation. Libby says, I never kicked a dog. And you say, well, I'm reporting based on a photo of your foot out and the dog flying in the air. Multiple sources say, so I think it's true and I think that's fair. So Libby sues for defamation. Times v. Sullivan kicks in. You got that first. And it's, well, did he know? First, a motion to dismiss. The judge says, this is the news. Get out of here. Let's say in the course of this, the conclusion is actually he was wrong.

Libby has the video showing that the dog actually jumped in the air and she tripped and fell backwards. It was totally not her kicking a dog. And there is nothing, no remedy for the news outlet that falsely published that she kicked a dog. So long as you said at the time we didn't know, you are allowed to keep the article up and continue to make money and share it with no correction that's rude that's insane that we live in society my argument is the remedy should be simple we can keep anti-slap we can keep times v sullivan and then in the event you go to court and you say the first thing is when you when you when you sue present the judge your evidence of why what they're saying is false. So let me kick the dog. She says, Your Honor, here's a video.

The dog was never kicked. Here's their claim. It is false. The judge goes, Did you know this was false? No, I didn't. Discovery, there's no evidence he knew it was false. OK, sir, you have to take it down and apologize. That doesn't exist. They just say he didn't know it was false. He's allowed to lie. Times v. Sullivan is an outdated First Amendment case. And I've been arguing for a long time that it needs to be updated. And I mean, I just I worked in media. I still work in media, obviously, ran and still run to a large degree outkick but i believe there should be consequences when you are beyond

negligent in the same way take it outside of this if you drive a car and you are uh behaving in a manner that is uh beyond just mere negligence you can be charged with a criminal offense if you hit somebody on a street, right? So are you saying criminal charges for defamation? No, but there are different standards of gradation beyond mere negligence. There's criminal negligence. There's manslaughter, right? You can take different steps. I think the standard of negligence can be applied to written articles.

But it is. It's the malice or reckless disregard for the truth. But that standard is virtually impossible to meet because they've created public and private figure distinctions. There is no public and private distinction when you're driving a car and you hit somebody. You're not like, oh, that person, well, that person was famous, so they're more deserving of getting hit by a car, so we have a different standard. I don't believe in the modern era that there should be a difference between a public and a private figure. I think we have to go back and redefine it. In the 1960s, most people's name never ended up in the newspaper.

Right. So it would make sense in some way that you would say, okay, this newspaper, which has scads of lawyers reviewing everything before it's published, is only writing about public figures because most people's names only appeared the day you were born, the day you died, right? Nowadays, every single person is one viral post away from being the Hawk Tua girl and everybody in the whole planet knows your name. They claimed the Covington kid was an involuntary public figure. So the standard applied. And so what happens on a lot of these cases, Covington kid's a perfect example. Nicholas Sandman, if I remember his name correctly, they settled that case because CNN and the Washington Post and all those people. Did he get millions? We don't know that. We don't know. We don't know if they ever came out. He was awarded millions. Well, the numbers are not public. We know that he settled the cases. I don't think that it's ever come out exactly what

he got. My point is most of the time people like that settle cases rather than roll the dice and try to set new precedents. Right. And so we need a new precedent that goes all the way. I'll give you another example. The Fox lawsuit that got settled. I think Fox was 100, in my opinion, Fox was 100% right and would have won that case if they had taken it all the way to the Supreme Court. And they may well have come out with a new standard in our modern digital era for how we handle this. And we will do it.

That's what I'm saying. Somebody needs to take it all the way and allow, because there's several justices who have said Times v. Sullivan is antiquated based on our modern media era. We need an update. Just for people who don't know, that means if you're a public figure and someone lies about you, you have to be able to prove that they knew they were lying or it was reckless disregard for the truth. The problem is, and you also have anti-SLAPP. I don't completely disagree, but there has to be new precedent. So the issue is the corporate press, I'll tell you a story, lied about me.

One of these activist lefty journalists at a major corporation published fake news. So activist rights blog, corporate journalist at major big three takes the source, publishes article. It gets picked up by three different tabloids. The corporate outlet then removes the portion of the story and cuts out the source. So now it's no longer in the story. The tabloids all then reference each other. Yep. When I sent an email to the first, I said, this is factually incorrect.

And they say, our reporting is based on this article right here. We are only saying they reported it. We are not saying it. I contacted the next outlet and I said, no, no, we did not claim you did this. We are only reporting what outlet C said. See, we're referencing what they said. I go to the next outlet and say, no, no, we're only referencing what outlet A said. So what happens is you have three outlets, A, B, and C, and A cites B, B cites C, C cites A, and argues we are not responsible for this information

because we are not reporting it. We are only referencing it, but it creates infinite loop. Yes. It's defamation genesis. We're going to call it defamation genesis. Let me give you a good example of this I had in my most recent book. If it were just negligence, if they just screwed up every now and then, no matter what you do every now and then, people screw up. I mean, that's life. We're imperfect. How many stricken positive articles that were negligent

have the Washington Post, the New York Times, NPR published about Donald Trump that were beneficial to him that were just negligent in his favor. Politico has two articles up right now. One saying Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election to help Hillary Clinton and another saying the story that Hillary Clinton was helped by Ukraine is Russian disinformation. These people are evil. But I mean, do you see the point? Like if they were just negligent, Trump would benefit. There would be a story like Donald Trump saved eight kittens from drowning in the Potomac River. And you'd be like, oh, that was super nice of him. I'm glad he likes kittens. And then they would come out and say, actually, sorry, we got that one wrong. Name me a pro-Trump story that they have gotten wrong.

It doesn't happen. All right, let's read this one. Cameron says, do you guys think Virginia is in play for Trump? Yes, because Virginia is going paper ballot. This is where I come back and I say, if Virginia ends up super close and Glenn Youngkin could have added 50,000 votes to Trump, which I think he could have, that could have been the knockout blow. I love JD. I think he was a good choice, but politically, I'm not sure that he changed the calculus in any substantial way. I think Glenn, I mean, you guys tell me, do you think Glenn Youngkin could have added

50,000 votes to Trump in Virginia? I think he maybe could have. Maybe, but I don't think he is as big a name as J.D. Vance is. I think J.D. Vance brings more to the Trump campaign. And historically, you know, vice presidential candidates don't necessarily guarantee you an election. They influence public opinion, but they don't necessarily guarantee electoral votes. What I find fascinating about the timing of choosing J.D. Vance is, again, he's a fresh politician, but he has experience in the Senate. And I just and I always go back to this. Everyone who's listening will get so tired of me saying it. But I think Hillbilly Elegy has a profound impact on the American psyche because the people I knew who were referencing it were all, you know, intense liberal women. And I think that is a long-term investment in the future

of the MAGA movement. Glenn Youngkin maybe would have done something, but I don't know that he could really go to bat for Trump the way J.D. Vance has proven that he can. I think J.D. Vance makes sense in the Midwest. I actually think coming off of the assassination attempt, Trump wanted somebody who would actually be super conservative behind him to try. I mean, I think this factored in on some level. If somebody tried to kill him, if you know that you've got Nikki Haley in the background, do you sit around and worry that that's going to incentivize that from occurring again. I wonder if that didn't factor in. But if it comes down to 50,000 votes, I think, Junkin, I think you're right generally. There aren't very many examples, though, of somebody making a choice to try to deliver

a specific state because it's so rare. So it's a hard hypothesis to test out because it would also require that it be close, right? I think Kamala made the wrong decision when she didn't take Shapiro. Oh, agreed. I think she should have 100% taken him. Well, I think that there was a concerted effort to get her to not take Shapiro because he's actually good at his job. He's well-liked in Pennsylvania.

Yeah, there's the Jewish thing as well, too, because he's pro-Israel. And he would have outshined her. That's the thing, yeah. We got the Jewish thing as well, too, because he's pro-Israel. And he would have outshined her. Let's jump into this. That's the thing, yeah. We got this super chat from Hotel Lama saying, Trump said he wants to legalize weed on Lex interview, supports the initiative in Florida as an example of how to do it. Good move. I agree with him.

A lot of conservatives are mad. They don't want weed legalized. I have friends who think weed should not be legalized. But I take a more libertarian stance on this. I'm not a big fan of pot. I don't smoke. Not a fan of people who smoke all the time. I don't mind if people are, you know, in their own homes doing whatever they want, but I'm not a big fan of it. But I do believe it's the right move. And I believe Trump should have. And I said this back in 2020, mass pardon nonviolent offenders who did not accept plea deals on marijuana charges. So

it would require a large review. We don't want somebody who is criminally charged for marijuana possession at the federal level a lot. But it was actually that he was in a shootout and then he pled down. So I said Trump should pardon all these guys. I mean, look, I said Trump should bring on Tulsi Gabbard. I said Trump should do the weed thing. He's doing it now. It's the right move. I agree with Tulsi. I don't have a strong opinion on the weed thing. My concern is moving beyond weed. But if I had to choose.

Oregon did that. Oregon. Oregon did that. And they pulled it back. I think you look at a lot of those left coast cities that have legalized weed and it hasn't gone well because I think it's liberalized drug use laws. And I used to be a guy who was like, ah, you know, I think you should just legalize and tax most drugs. I think that left-wing cities have tried that and it's kind of a disaster. Um, but if I had to choose between, Hey, do you want

your kid using alcohol all the time or smoking weed occasionally? I'd rather my kids smoke weed occasionally than drink every day. Personally, I think there's a big faction of the Republican Party that's sort of crunchy in a weird way. And the challenge with marijuana is that the way it's classified right now, it's very difficult to study. And so it's really one. But with marijuana specifically, I think that, you know, if we don't study it, we don't really know how to interpret it. And so there's a level of like, I don't know that it should be legal, but I definitely think that we should treat it like something we're studying, which we can't really do. Well, there's a weird thing, though, with legal weed, which is that since weed got legalized, it's become like a hell of a lot stronger.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Way more intense and crazy. And like, I remember back in the good old days in the nineties, you know, like I'd buy a dime bag and it would have like seeds and stems in it and you can't buy stuff like that anymore. You can't buy like mid-level weed at this point. Shrag.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, like what they were selling at the coffee shop, whatever. But, you know, you can't, that doesn't exist. So now when kids are getting into legal weed, it's insane. It's like psychedelics. They may as well be dropping LSD. I also think it'd be funny if he had said, and I'm going to bomb the cartels.

Because then you just cover both sides. Like, yeah, I'm going to get into people who are mad about the weed, but you're like, okay, we're really going to try to stop fentanyl from coming in and killing 100,000 people. New York did this weird thing where they decriminalized weed, and then all the corner bodegas started selling weed with absolutely no regulation. And then the state tried to do a thing where the first weed licenses

go to people who had been formerly incarcerated for weed charges. And they tried to get all the bodegas to stop selling like loose joints and whatever else. And there's no way to pull that back. So now there's like an illegal yet decriminalized trade in marijuana in every corner store in the city and there's people who were formerly incarcerated getting prioritized for proper licenses who are actually paying the taxes thereby getting penalized you know what's fascinating to me about the weed thing is we basically have eliminated cigarette smoking among young people and replaced it with weed like my kids my kids when they see someone

actually smoking a cigarette it's like someone shooting up with heroin they're like oh my god dad it's terrible he's smoking a cigarette but now they're you know it is kind of amazing how we just shift what the morally acceptable meanwhile when we were kids growing up mom and grandma are just smoking like crazy and the windows rolled up. All right, we got this from Sean. He says, Tim, please convince Clay to come back for your culture war show with Keith Olbermann. Do you know about that? Keith Olbermann used to... I know, he's nuts. He is crazy. But he was... When I was a kid, I would wake up in the morning, I would put on ESPN SportsCenter because I had to go to bed before the games ended. I would sit and eat my cereal, and I would watch Keith Olbermann on television with Dan Patrick.

And if you had told me when I was 13, Keith Olbermann will ever know your name, I would have thought that I was the baddest-ass person on the planet. Keith Olbermann is an insane man. Yeah. And he comes after me all the time. And I read it and I'm like, this is maybe a good example for your point about he's over 50. He's never gotten married.

He doesn't have any kids. And I think at some point, if you get to that age, maybe particularly if you're male you just get so wrapped up in your own craziness that your world spirals out of control I think the important thing to understand too is when you're young you have friends by force um you make friends because you're in school or it's a great point your your parents are are going someplace and there's other kids in the play area or whatever.

And so as you get older and you no longer are forced into this position, this is why people after high school, they don't hang out anymore. You go to different colleges. While you're in college, you make different friends. It's because you're just not in the same places and you don't really have a choice. When you're older and you're out of college, now it's work. You know your friends from work. You talk to them. Some of them you don't even like, but you're there because it's your job. And then where are your friends from college? Well, they moved for a job. And then you start having less and less friends.

But this is how life goes. You then have a wife or a husband. You then have children. Then you have a family. You periodically go on vacation, see some of your old friends and their kids. And then your company is your family. For someone like Keith Olbermann, and many people like him,

especially, what's her face? That lady who wakes up in the morning to masturbate. What's her name? Chelsea Handler. Yes, Chelsea Handler. Hatred, self-indulgence. They don't have friends. And I don't mean to say that there's like literally no one hanging out with them.

Of course they have friends. I'm saying they're at a point in their lives where friendship is not the same as it used to be. And they attach themselves to social media because they need social interaction. Whereas people with kids spend time with their kids and they spend time with their families. And that's where their concern is. It's very inward as for people like Keith Olbermann. He has nothing but the external social interactions he gets from going online.

He doesn't have the buddies coming by to play video games where he's older than that. So they don't come by to play ball or go for a ride anymore. The only social interaction he's going to get is going on social media. I got to tell you, Keith, the poker tables are good fun. That's where the retirees go. You cash your social security check. You sit down, you fold every hand until you get aces, and then you bet, and then you win, and you sit there all day. That's what they do for their social interaction and i approve of that there also is studies you guys may be able to speak to this women seem better at preserving relationships as they age than men are this is something i hear from my guy friends they'll be like you're still friends with that person okay but yes there's a comedian i forgot his name he had this great bit where he said so uh a friend of mine

recently got divorced and hadn't seen him in a while and decided to go play around a golf with him and so we went when I came back my uh wife said so how's he doing and I went I don't know and she was like what yeah she's like well is he did is he seeing someone he's like didn't come up and she's like I don't what do you are you friends with this person? He's like, didn't come up. And she's like, what do you, are you friends with this person? Like, yeah. She's like,

did you talk to him? It's like, we played golf. Yeah. Like that's, that's what guys do. That's it. No idea.

I talked to my son's best friend. I've said this before, but he moved to Morocco with, you know, his family or whatever. And they'll still play video games. They'll like play, you know,

Xbox and they'll both be online and they'll be done. and they will have been playing for like two hours or something. And I'll be like, oh, how is he doing? How's school? How's his family? How's everything going? My son will be like, I don't know. I got it. I figured it out.

So we're trying to set up this private club on the second floor of our coffee shop. We're going to get a ratty old couch we're going to get a a old 90s television with a or early 2000s box tv with an original xbox and it's going to be for late 30s guys to come and hang out having pizza and mountain dew just one sounds by the way amazing me already and i'm a little bit too old just once in a while to be like that's what we used to do in college. Because there's this meme where it was like, this guy's telling a story where he was like, me and my friends met up after class. We go to my buddy's house. We ordered a couple extra large pepperoni pizzas, brought a bunch of Mountain Dew,

played Xbox, played Halo split screen all night, laughing, making jokes. It got to about one or two in the morning, stood up. Everybody was laughing and having a good time. Went to the or two in the morning, stood up, everybody was laughing and having a good time, went to the door and said, later guys, see ya, we'll play again next week. We never played again for that. I wonder where those guys went. One day was the last day you hung out with your buddies

and you didn't realize it. I hate that. Do you know? Oh man, that is like. You said that story like ages ago and now I think about it all the time and i'll be like oh is this the last time i'm gonna do this with my kid okay well all right one thing is men women socialize differently like if you've if you've read the book men are from mars and women are from venus

john gray talks about the fact that women like men go to lunch to solve a problem like you go to talk about something women go to lunch to just chat to gather information and it's like like and everyone has to tell their story about like the thing there's a reason that my college to talk about something. Women go to lunch to just chat. To gather information. And it's important. And everyone gets to tell their story about like the thing their husband did. There's a reason that my college group of girlfriends, the first night of our weekend together after like, you know, a year or several months apart,

like we opened with a slideshow presentation on the updates in everyone's life. And I told this to a male friend and he was like, this is insane. What are you doing? But like, I genuinely want to know. Whereas the video game thing resembles the problem solving.

We have come to play the game and then to leave. So on top of the hanging out with your buddies thing, one day you picked up your child for the last time and you didn't know it. Yeah, exactly.

I'm not going to leave. I mean, I've got my nine-year-old and I still walk around with him on my shoulders because I'm terrified. No, you have a nine-year-old, and I still walk around with him on my shoulders because I'm terrified. No, you have a nine-year-old. I can't pick up my child anymore. He is now four inches taller than me.

He's got a lot of weight on me. Hold on. Let me tell you this. We've got to go to the members show. I bought the Nintendo old school. I'll tell this story on the members show. But I will say the last thing is there's a funny meme where the dad's guy says he saw that post. So he walked over to his 20 something year old son and lifted him up.

And his son was like, Dad, what are you doing? And he's like, I saw this thing and said, you picked up your kid for the last time. So I want to do it one more time. Anyway, smash the like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Head over to TimCast.com. You can click sign up in the top right or click join us.

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Clay, do you want to shout anything out? I had an awesome time. I'm looking forward to hanging out for another hour. Appreciate you guys having me. My wife just texted me and said, Blue Monday was my first floor music in gymnastics.

So I told her to watch. So there you go. It's like the highest. She is a genius on music, by the way, unlike me. I think Blue Monday is the highest selling 12-inch single of all time or something like that.

Yeah, something like that. And I've got an 8-bit Nintendo story on the full set. Let's get it. Where can people follow you? At Clay Travis. The one that I do myself is Twitter. I know I'm on Instagram and TikTok too, or whatever else they put me. Your image is on those places.

Yeah, they put videos up. But every tweet is from me. So if you're interested in me, I'm at Clay Travis. I'm Libby Emmons. You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons. I also do my own tweets.

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