Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1103 DOJ Indicts Russians For Funding US Company, Tenet Media Alleged w/Anthony Constantino
Episode Date: September 5, 2024Tim, Hannah Claire, & Ian are joined by Anthony Constantino to discuss the DOJ indicted two RT employees accused of funding Tenet Media, Tim Walz's family rejecting Kamala & announcing support for Tru...mp, Amazon panicking after it's Alexa smart speaker is exposed for having an anti-Trump bias, and a new report suggesting our phones are listening to us in order to serve us targeted ads. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Guest: Anthony Constantino @ac132 (X) | StickerMule.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Man, I guess this is Tim Week in the news because I'm just in the news all the time.
Now, admittedly, it wasn't my fault that the Harris campaign accused me of calling for what is tantamount to genocide of Democrats.
That's a lie, by the way. And we are currently in the process of drafting our formal complaint.
We will be we will be filing a lawsuit. But now news broke. The DOJ said that there's this RT employees were covertly funding a U.S. company publishing thousands of videos and furtherance of Russian Russian interests.
And it is presumed that company is Tenet Media. For those aren't familiar, this is a new media company.
And we license one of our shows, Culture War, to them. And now I'm getting hit up by like everybody
in the media. They're emailing
me and they're tweeting at me and sending me DMs
being like, what's going on with this?
Well, I'll make clear immediately in the start of the
show, did you read the indictment?
It clearly says that I, as well as the
other personalities, were victims.
We were deceived by people intentionally
to trick us into licensing our
content to them.
I will add, I have a statement about this, which, you know, we'll launch the full segment.
But we never produced anything for them.
We had an existing show that was already in production that they licensed distribution for, which meant that the show that we already produced appeared on their network.
That was the gist of the deal.
So there's no one from their company involved with ours.
Their company paid a license fee to broadcast a show that we produce, that we run, that our employees are involved with, and they have nothing to do with.
I don't know what – I mean, like, politically, you're going to see a bunch of Democrats making claims and all this other stuff.
I can't speak for anybody else involved with the company because I don't know what they do or what their jobs are or anything like that.
I can just tell you plainly, Culture War existed well before the license agreement.
It will exist well after the license agreement.
And they licensed it for a set period.
And that meant that the show appeared on their channel.
That's it.
Like any other show appearing on any other network, we produce it on our own.
So we'll talk about that.
And admittedly, it's a slow news day.
I guess that's why people are talking about me and Benny Johnson, you know, Dave Rubin, all that stuff.
And I like those guys, so we'll defend them as well because this is BS.
But we do have statements from them.
But we'll talk about a couple of the other stories.
Liz Cheney's endorsing Kamala Harris.
Not surprising.
And the entire Waltz family is endorsing Trump, which is kind of weird. But sure, not like Tim Waltz's kids, but just like his extended family.
So we'll talk about all that.
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and again, smash that like button. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is
Anthony Constantino. Happy to be here. Who are you? What do you do? I got a company called
Sticker Mule, and I made waves a few weeks ago for apparently you can't say that it's not nice
to hate Trump supporters. So I sent a thing out telling our customers, you know, people need to stop hating Trump supporters.
Apparently, you can't say that.
And it ended up becoming a big thing.
I ended up being the talk of the town, particularly on Threads.
I told everyone Threads became the Mark Zuckerberg's website, which he made to mess up X or whatever.
But, you know, I became the talk of the town on Threads, became the Sticker Mill fan club for a week,
and also talked about all over the Internet, YouTube, YouTube Brails and all this other stuff.
So Sticker Mill is a huge company.
1,200 people, 39 countries.
Wow.
I live in Mexico.
So, yeah.
And then you just endorsed Trump.
You know, more so than that, I just came out and said the hate for supporters got to stop.
Oh, right on.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Right on.
Well, thanks for coming.
This should be interesting.
We'll hear all about that story.
We got Ian hanging out.
Hi, everyone.
Good to be here.
I've been streaming hard during the day,
so check me out on my YouTube channels and stuff.
I'm doing a lot of Diablo 4 and talking philosophy.
It's been exhilarating.
And I just did a, doing daily covers, songs.
I think I did Brain Stew by Green Day today.
It's really, that's a good one.
And if you need, when you're moving around, you can take this
mic around with you so it's always tight to your face.
It makes it a lot easier. Good to see
you, dude. Thank you. Let's get into it.
It's good to have you here. I'm glad you could join us.
I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow. I'm a writer for SCNR.com,
Skinner News. Check them out at TimCastNews
on the internet. Let's get started. Here we go.
From the post-millennial, DOJ
indicts two RT media
affiliated Russians, accuses them of laundering $10 million to conservative company Tenet Media to sow division in U.S.
The DOJ alleged that the two concocted a scheme to create and distribute content to U.S. audiences with hidden Russian government messaging.
Well, let me just take the word of the DOJ straight from the DOJ website.
I'll issue some clarification.
I have a statement on this, which I will read for you in a second.
When I first learned of this story, literally I'm skateboarding, and I get a DM from a journalist asking if I would talk about the Russian allegations or whatever.
And I was like, what?
I was like, what allegations?
And then they sent me a tweet, and I'm like, I ain't reading that.
I'm sorry this happened to you or whatever.
And then he said something. I'm like, dude, I have literally no idea what you're
talking about. And so then I get some calls after a conversation with a few people. I was like,
all right, I'll put out a statement. And I thought it was a leaked indictment. I didn't realize the
DOJ actually did a press conference on all this stuff. So then when I just I just corrected and
changed it. And so let me let me read this
for you. And they'll give the context as to what this means for us and for you. I will stress
that this literally has nothing to do with Timcast media in any way. I want to make sure that's very,
very clear. The Culture War podcast is a separate company that produces the Culture War,
and it licensed a show to Tenet. And that was it. There's no direct connection between this and Timcast.
So they say two RT employees indicted for covertly funding and directing U.S. company that published thousands of videos and furtherance of Russian interests. 31, also known as Kostya, and Elena Afanasieva, 27, also known as Lena, with conspiracy to violate
the Foreign Agents Registration Act and conspiracy to commit money laundering, was unsealed today
in the Southern District of New York. They're both at large. Were these people in America?
The Justice Department has charged two employees of RT, a Russian state-controlled media outlet,
in a $10 million scheme to create and distribute content to U.S. audiences
with hidden Russian government messaging, said Merrick Garland.
The Justice Department will not tolerate attempts by an authoritarian regime
to exploit our country's free exchange of ideas
in order to covertly further its own propaganda efforts,
and our investigation into this matter remains ongoing.
Our approach to combating foreign malign influence is actor-driven,
exposing the hidden hand of adversaries pulling strings of influence from behind the curtain,
said Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco.
As alleged in today's indictment, Russian state broadcaster RT and its employees, including the charged defendants, co-opted online commentators by funneling them nearly $10 million to pro-Russia propaganda and disinformation across social media to U.S. audiences.
The department will not tolerate foreign efforts to illegally manipulate American public opinion by sowing discord and division.
COVID attempts to sow division and trick Americans into unwittingly consuming foreign propaganda
represents an attack on our democracy, said Christopher Wray. Today's actions show that
as long as foreign adversaries like Russia keep engaging in hostile influence campaigns,
they are going to keep running into the FBI. We will continue to do everything we can to expose the hidden hand of foreign adversaries like Russia and disrupt their
efforts to meddle in our free and open society. The Russian government has long sought to sow
discord and chaos in the United States through propaganda and foreign malign influence campaigns.
OK, they're just repeating themselves. I will say this again. These are charges. It's an
indictment. They're allegations not yet proven true. I have not spoken to any of the people involved in running Tenet, so I don't know what is going online content creation company. In turn, U.S. Company One published English-language videos
on multiple social media channels,
including TikTok, Instagram, Axe, and YouTube.
Since publicly launching in or about November 2023,
they posted nearly 2,000 videos
and have garnered more than 16 million views on YouTube alone.
Many of the videos posted by U.S. Company One
contain commentary on events and issues in the U.S.
such as immigration, inflation, and other topics
related to domestic and foreign policy.
While the views expressed in those videos are not uniform, most are directed to the publicly stated goals I mean, that's a strong opinion, but I can't speak for the people at the other commentators.
I don't know. I can only speak for what we produce on the Culture War, which is available on iTunes and Spotify. In order to carry out RT's
secret influence campaign, they say these individuals posed as outside editors at the
company and monitored the funding and hiring. They introduced Afanasyeva as a member of the
ported editing team using fake personas Helena Shruda and Victoria Pesti. They blah, blah, blah.
They say, for one example, in March 22nd, 2024,
terror attack on a music venue in Moscow. Afanasieva asked one of U.S. companies founders
to blame Ukraine and the U.S. for the attack, writing, I think we could focus on the U.S.
Ukraine U.S. angle. The mainstream media spread fake news that ISIS claimed responsibility for
the attack. Yet ISIS itself never made such statements. All terrorists are now detained while they were heading to the border with Ukraine.
Didn't we say that was ISIS?
We said it was ISIS, yeah.
Yeah, we covered that story. We said it was ISIS.
And they're arguing that Tenet was saying it was Ukraine or something?
This is what the terrorist attack on October 7th.
I'm pretty sure we called it ISIS, and we were like, oh, wow.
I thought we talked about the spread of Islamic extremism in Europe.
But yeah, which also is. Anyway, so they're going to mention that nine point seven million dollars was was sent.
The the document names a few people, but they do this thing where they don't name the person.
But if you're fans of The Simpsons, then you'll remember that episode where they said it's Principal Skinner. And he's like, a certain person has complained. We'll call her
Lisa S. No, that's that's that's not good enough. We'll say Elle Simpson. Yeah. And so everybody
knew it was her. So when they go in this document and they basically say, like, here's a person,
here's how many subscribers they have and here's the show they produce. But we're not saying their
name. You get what they're doing and why. So I got a statement for you guys. I said my statement regarding the DOJ indictment.
Should these allegations prove true? I, as well as other personalities and commentators, were deceived, deceived in our victims.
I cannot speak for anyone else in the company as to what they do or what they are instructed.
The Culture War podcast was licensed by Tenet Media. It existed well before any license agreement with Tenet.
It will continue to exist after any such agreement expires.
The only change of the agreement was that the location of the live broadcast moved to Tenet. It will continue to exist after any such agreement expires. The only change of the agreement
was that the location of the live broadcast
moved to Tenet's YouTube channel.
I and the Culture War never produced content,
any content for Tenet Media.
And I want to clarify that too,
because I got community noted on this thing.
We didn't take orders, instruction,
or editorial guidance in any way.
The only thing that we had was
we produced the Culture War Friday mornings at 10 a.m.
You can go to YouTube dot com slash Timcast.
That's where it is.
But the the the core broadcast of the show moved from that channel to Tenet as part of a licensing agreement.
So like if I don't know, say CBS or some major major network said, hey, we want to put Timcast IRL also on our channel at the same time slot.
I'd be like, sure, whatever.
Pass a fee. I wouldn't know what they were doing. I wouldn channel at the same time slot. I'd be like, sure, whatever, pass a fee.
I wouldn't know what they were doing.
I wouldn't know what commercials they were running.
I don't know what they're saying.
And so that's basically what we did.
Now, considering this, and I don't know what is true or not, I think what is likely going
to happen is that the show is just going to revert back to the same exact show that it
always was.
And it's going to be on YouTube.com slash Timcast as we do.
That's the only thing I can really say.
I don't know.
Let me read more.
Never at any point did anyone other than I have full editorial control of the show and its contents of the show are often apolitical.
Examples include discussing spirituality, dating, and video games.
In fact, we had one episode called, Is Donald Trump the Antichrist?
Or is it Elon Musk?
Which is literally when we brought on these dudes who think Donald Trump is the Antichrist.
I don't know.
Drew Tang was one of them, I think.
Was that right?
Yeah, Drew.
I say the show is produced in its entirety by our local team without input from anyone
external to the company.
The Culture War is a separate company not associated with TimCast.com or other properties.
It exists solely for the production of the Culture War podcast.
That being said, we still do not know what is true.
These are only allegations.
Putin is a scumbag.
Russia sucks donkey balls.
And to the journalists who wish to jump the gun, create their own narrative or lie about what is currently going
on, you can eat my Irish ass. And I will stress, I am Irish just because I'm also Korean doesn't
mean I'm not Irish. Is that what you had community noted on? They were like, Tim Pool is not in fact
Irish. Well, I had people tweeting at me like, you're Irish now? I'm more Irish than I am Korean.
Come on. Jeez. Anyway, Dave Rubin issued a statement. He says statement on the
DOJ indictment. These allegations clearly show that I and other commentators were the victims
of this scheme. I knew absolutely nothing about any of this fraudulent activity, period.
People of the Internet was a silly show covering viral videos, which ended four months ago.
The DOJ has never contacted me regarding this matter, and I have no intention to comment
further. The screenshot directly from the indictment speaks for itself.
Well, you know, for me, you know, I'll say what I can, I suppose.
But the issue really is we cover the big stories of the day, and this seems to be the one that's trending and popping up all over all over X.
But in the indictment, it clearly points out, they say that Kalichnikov, Afanasyeva, I can't pronounce that, Founder 1 and Founder 2 worked together to mask U.S. companies' true source of funding by falsely portraying to Commentator 1 and 2 that U.S. Company 1 was sponsored by a private
investor named Edward Gregorian.
In truth, and in fact, Gregorian was a fictional persona.
For example, during contract negotiations, Commentator 1 requested that Founder 1 provide
a profile or article on Gregorian.
In response, Founder 1 sent Commentator 1 a one-page profile provided to Founder One by other fictional persona purporting to represent Gregorian, falsely
describing Gregorian, I guess. I mean, so the DOJ is alleging that some of these personalities,
I guess, is Dave, what is this? Is Dave, what is this, a screenshot? Speaks for itself? Right.
So you can infer, there's a list of commentators that are included in it.
And it clearly shows that the indictment's allegation, I don't know if it's true, is that the founders intentionally sought to deceive the people who are involved as talent for the company.
And that's about it. I don't know what else to say about it other than welcome to the 2024 news cycle.
I warned you all last year was going to get absolutely crazy and it's only just begun.
So once again, I am suing Kamala Harris for defamation.
Our legal team is working on it. I've got updates. We've got big news that's coming very soon.
And then this. So I hope you're all enjoying yourselves. Buckle up. It's not close to being done yet.
It sounded like these these two Russian people
used fake names when they joined Tenet when they came to Tenet. Was that what that indictment?
That's what the DOJ says. Yes. So it sounds like Tenet's getting got defrauded by these two people
as well. There's other things in the indictment that accuse the founders of apparently being aware
of what was really going on. The founders of Tenet. Well, it says right there in the indictment, I just read this for you.
It says that founder one, two, and the two defendants worked together to mask the true
source of their funding and tried to deceive commentators.
Okay.
So there's, you know, for obvious reasons, I can only say so much, but I can just stress
the point.
Culture War is going to be live this Friday morning at 10 a.m.
And we're going to be discussing,
I think, movies?
So I don't know.
You know, I love the,
what is this?
Look on the right.
Scandal.
DOJ claims Benny Johnson
and Lauren Chen are Russian agents
with Natalie Winters.
They claim that.
Well, scandal is a question mark.
Yeah, that's actually not true they claim
Benny Johnson was a victim
but it's all over X or whatever
and everyone's talking about it
I just think it's funny that they're like
it pushed Russian interests and I'm just like
our show will be live
on Friday and we're talking about movies
we're talking about movie production this time
so whatever
man it's like it's a very sensitive period of human history we're talking about movie production this time. So whatever. Man, it's like it is.
It's a very sensitive period of human history.
We're talking a little bit about the show, like the world order, the shifting of the world order.
They want to, like, evolve the liberal economic order into a new world order that's more viable.
I don't know that that's more synergistic with the way we live.
That's not bricks because the bricks alliance looks like a counter imposing order.
And like, how is that happening? And are people getting caught up in the psychological warfare? Obviously, if know, today is the first time Tim Walz is doing his
solo appearances, two of them in Pennsylvania. Kamala Harris is up in New Hampshire talking
about how she's going to help small businesses. And then we're like, hey, it's kind of a slow
news day, except for this thing. Like, why is the press during the election cycle taking this off
day, not covering what these two Democrats are talking about? Instead, the DOJ has released,
it's not just this, the DOJ has a ton of things that have come out today. And it's interesting to me that,
you know, maybe it's coincidental, but also that the news media seems to have taken a pause,
waited for these to come out. And then this happens to be the one that's getting big on X.
I think the funny thing is that like Dave Rubin was posting clips of just like a guy buying stuff
at Taco Bell and getting mad.
Like apparently his show was him just commenting on nonsense.
It's just like the weirdest thing.
They were pushing Russian aligned misinformation.
It's like I think his show was like a woman would be in a viral video throwing quarters at somebody and they'd be like, what are these people doing?
I wonder if there was like a message that got sent.
Just one or two that's like, well well what if you did a show about this thing
and that's like the real russian op is that they're like why not just look at one of these
maybe one day think about it well i can tell you that never happened here culture war is is produced
here we independent fully independent we don't have we don't we're in russia i think i talked to lauren chen twice this year so it's like she's on the show last like eight months ago or so yeah
we had her we had her on the culture war with pearl davis talking about dating i don't know dude
we have a show where we talk about cultural issues thank you and have a nice day i guess
maybe it's a slow news day and that's why but i don't know you know people are like
trying to hit me up like crazy and i'm just just like, dude, I got nothing for you.
I don't know what to tell you.
Does your company have a lot of investors?
Do you have to vet who comes on?
I'm the only guy.
You're solo?
That's why I get to do what I want to do.
I'm like the other guys in tech.
I'm the Lone Ranger in tech.
All these other guys, they got their VC buddies that tell them what they can do and can't do.
And that was an intentional choice because?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I had a brief introduction to the world of VCs when we were first getting started.
And, yeah, you don't want to be in that world.
You just came with your own money and then hit it?
A friend of mine invested in the company, and he cut a check.
And my early investor was 72 years old, so he wanted to exit.
And, you know, he exited on a great deal.
We're still great friends.
But I've got to admit, I'm kind of jealous of your situation.
I like working on fun things, and nothing seems more fun than suing the vice president.
I mean, I don't know.
It's not fun to have people messaging you about the vice president accusing you of calling for the mass jailing and execution of half the country, it's kind of a weird thing to accuse
someone of wanting, especially when I'm
like very ardently
opposed to the death penalty.
So, you know, I suppose
the thing is like
I
don't know, man. Like these things don't move
the needle for me.
I just, I don't know.
You guys ever see Office Space?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm like that guy.
Such a good movie.
I'm like the main character.
What's his name?
What's the actor's name?
Rob Livingston?
Was that his name?
Ron Livingston?
Yeah, and so like he goes to the hypnotist,
and then all of a sudden he doesn't care anymore,
and he like shows up, and he's like,
whatever, I don't care.
That's it.
It's like, you know, there's a lot of people
freaking out about all this stuff.
I get these messages, and I'm just like laughing. I dude i don't know i don't know what you're talking
about man like obviously irl's hot culture war is fun but rock stardom is where we're where we're
destined for uh-huh i like that that's your like next career move to become a rock star i feel like
that's pretty bold not everyone would go that route so the feds are going to show up and they're
going to say listen you know you're too influential and you're outside of our control.
So what's going to happen is we're going to produce an album for you.
It's going to go double platinum.
It's going to be big, but you're going to resign from politics and you're going to quit the show.
And Ian's going to be like, done.
We'll call it the New World Order.
It'll be so hot, dude.
Let's call it Runaway Breakdown.
That's what I really want to call the show.
He's going to knock on the door and they're going to be like,
Mr. Crossland, how would you like to be a famous rock star?
Just quit politics.
I mean, I've never really been in politics.
The whole purpose of why I'm even here is because I care about the truth.
I want to understand what's really going on.
And so I'm drawn to understanding politics.
I don't want to mess with it that much.
But this is politics, bro.
That's the only thing.
I don't care about politics. I didn't vote to mess with it that much. But this is politics, bro. That's the only thing. I don't care about politics.
I didn't vote for anybody in 2016.
I care about what's true.
And the problem is we have an entire machine state of lies.
And so it's no matter where you turn, everything's a lie.
And like every government on earth is just built to lie.
It's built to maintain order through deception.
I mean, it's not fully deceptive.
There's lots of honesty in it, but it's willing to lie to maintain order through deception. I mean, it's not not fully deceptive, deceptive. There's lots of honesty in it, but it's willing to lie to maintain order.
And the crazy thing is that the quote, stop making me defend Trump trend from 2016,
17 or whatever, perfectly explains where many people ended up. I didn't care. I'm like,
look, the political machine is crazy. And then I'd watch Donald Trump say something on TV and
I'd be like, how about that? Then the next day Trump say something on TV and I'd be like, how about
that? Then the next day I'm talking to someone and they'd be like, did you hear that Donald Trump
said X? And I'd be like, no, he didn't. He said, why? Why are you defending Trump? What do you
mean? Trump literally said the opposite of that on TV. I watched it. Why are you lying to me?
And they get mad at you and they attack you. Then all of a sudden I'm like, uh, okay. So I do this
podcast and I say, Trump never said that. He said this. And then they're like, you're a Russian agent or whatever.
So it's it's quite literally if you try to expose the lies, you're right wing.
I know.
And the idea of like passively allowing the structure to deceive people to maintain order
is like it feels so sickeningly dirty order, though, dude, you the Ukraine war is not order
like I was listening to this interview because Zelensky has made moves into Russia now.
And there was a reporter from I would think a totally mainstream source.
I can't remember which one NBC, ABC, whatever.
And he was like, so but do you think that like when you did this, did you give any warning to to Washington, to Biden?
And he was like, he's like, no, of course not.
You know, I have to be secret about these things. And the mainstream American reporter is like, but but Americans feel like they're funding helping Ukraine defend themselves from Russia.
And this doesn't really seem like what you're doing now.
Like, I think there's there's a lot of misconception about what's going on.
And I think that there, you know, there may be people who are vying for power and influence in the world.
But a lot of it is just chaos, like people grabbing opportunities whenever they can. I mean, here's the question for you guys, because I pointed this
out. I was talking to my friends back in 2015. Do you like that we have cheap, cheap fuel? Do you
like that we don't export things, but we get access to all these things around the world?
Basically, if you like the status quo, which includes the bombing of foreign countries,
the military expansionism, wars, that declaration, Hillary Clinton's your candidate. And you know what?
You don't got to think twice. You don't got to bat an eye. You can wake up. You can go work at
the as a receptionist at whatever, you know, business. You can get paid your salary and you
will live under the petrodollar. If you vote for Donald Trump, you're voting for hard work.
You're voting for sacrifice. You're voting for better deals for this country. And that's going
to have a negative impact on the global, the liberal economic order. So the question is now,
I see the Democratic establishment, the Uniparty, Liz Cheney is a part of it now too,
what Republicans mean. Yeah, their attitude is we will remain wealthy and in control. If we go to war, we blow up anybody
who opposes us. Gaddafi, you want to create a union. You want to trade in gold or euro.
They Hillary Clinton says we came. We saw he died. Saddam Hussein, you won't fall in line.
Same thing. The U.S. will go in and take out these leaders and overthrow their countries and CIA back
to coups. That is not order. That is just military might of one faction on the planet.
I suppose the argument then is, do you, and I'll throw this to you guys, believe there's a
possibility of stable global order in a multipolar world, meaning multiple powerful countries
existing as superpowers competing for- I think there is, 100%, because if the United States
could do it at a state level, then yeah yeah, like we didn't we stopped fighting.
At one point, we had to come together with all our differences.
The thing is, we spoke the same language.
That's a huge part of this system.
If we really want order, de facto order, we need to understand each other.
Like that's what produces order is the ability to understand the person sitting next to you.
There's a natural order that arises from the understanding.
We stopped fighting, meaning like we stopped literally duking it out on the battlefield. That's what you mean, right? Because states
fight all the time. They fight for resources constantly. That's one of the reasons that I hate
the overarching bureaucracy of the federal government. I mean, there's this lawsuit that
the Supreme Court just weighed in on. The federal government, the Department of Health and Human
Services has said, Oklahoma, you have to, as part of your family planning resources, refer people to
get abortions. And under Oklahoma state law, they're really strict. They've really strict abortions.
And so Oklahoma doesn't want to do that. And so now the federal government has been like, well,
fine, you can't have that money and we're going to give it to an organization in Missouri instead.
Like it's four and a half million dollars. It's maybe not going to change every single thing in
Oklahoma. On the other hand, we still there is still fight over resources. So it'd be difficult
to think of a world where governments, you know, they might have stronger
diplomatic relationships, but they're always going to in some ways be competing over something.
And in that sense, you know, nothing stays just perfectly stable.
It's the difference of fighting and competing.
And we've stopped fighting.
We've started competing.
And it's the same way in sports.
As a kid, I used to be like, who's the Brown?
Who are the Browns fighting next? And my dad would be like, they're playing them, not fighting them.
The feds, the federal government funds a lot of states. So there's an incentive not to fall out
of line. I mean, there was one civil war in this country when the states didn't agree with the
federal government was doing. I don't know. I don't know. The argument is that many people,
I would say the establishment believes a multipolar world is
not possible or preferable and will result in war. And at the state, the scale of technology
that we're at, that war would be very bad. They literally say this in the liberal economic order,
the Council on Foreign Relations says. So if you look at what they're trying to do now
with the war in Ukraine, with Israel, with the Middle East, why they hate Trump is they just
want military expansionist
policy because they would prefer to be in charge as opposed to China or BRICS.
BRICS is winning. They've been winning well before Trump got elected. Trump's election was not the
result of Russian disinformation or whatever garbage they want to say. Well before Donald
Trump won, Russia and China were getting off the dollar and they're trying to back away.
And the petrodollar deal was going to expire soon with Saudi Arabia.
Trump gets in because of these failures and the establishment can't maintain the system.
They can't.
It is going to collapse.
So in that case, and we're looking at a multipolar world regardless or World War Three, which
I'd prefer not, Donald Trump's path seems to make the most sense.
Secure borders, better trade agreements, shore up our manufacturing.
Surprise, surprise. The Democrats are starting to embrace Trump's policies.
And maybe Kamala Harris comes out and says, build a wall and no tax on tips, then gets elected,
brings in all the illegal immigrants, and then declares war on 50 other countries. I have no idea. But, you know. Yeah, whether people want to realize it or not, he's a master negotiator.
You know, I happen to be a decent one myself, but I think he's a bit better than me.
Let's let's jump to the story from the Daily Mail.
Tim Waltz's family members reveal they are backing Trump in bombshell leaked photo.
Can you call it a leaked photo?
A new leaked image shows members of vice presidential candidate Governor Tim Waltz family are supporting his Republican rival.
Tim, look at this.
Waltz is for Trump.
Who are these? Is that like his mom or something? Eight members of the Minnesota governor family posing for an image showing their support for Republican rival Donald Trump. We knew that his
brother had been speaking out. They said the photo quickly went viral among MAGA users who say his
own family's opposition to his candidacy is proof that people should be wary of voting for a Harris-Waltz ticket.
I'm not convinced she can win right now.
I don't know.
She calls herself the underdog.
Piers Morgan just bet Scaramucci a thousand bucks that Trump is going to win.
That's interesting.
You say Kamala calls herself the underdog?
Yep.
And Piers Morgan bet a thousand bucks that Trump's going to win.
I bet 5,000 on Trump in 2016.
I paid 10 to 1.
10 to 1?
Yeah.
Wow.
Are you going to bet this year?
I didn't bet 2020, but I think he's going to win this year.
I didn't bet 2020, but I think he's got it this year.
Why do you think so?
It's just, you know, he's doing right moves with the podcast.
He's talking to the people.
He's got his act together.
The podcast he's doing, you know, he called his son a secret weapon baron.
I think he's right in that.
I think the podcasts are a big deal, for sure.
Absolutely.
But I would say if your VP can't convince their own family to vote for him, you're in trouble.
Well, it sounds kind of similar to what Kennedy was experiencing with the other Kennedys coming out and being like,
don't vote for him, vote for Kamala Harris.
And you're like, well, you don't always.
You are not your family.
I get the comparison you're making.
It is making me laugh, though, that that they're like his brother is saying character stuff.
But other people in the family are just like, nope, we're voting for for Trump.
Like we like this guy.
It makes me wonder because part of part of the thing that bothers me about Tim Walz and everyone gets to grow and change.
But when he ran for Congress, he postured much more moderately.
He was in a rural area and he seemed to sort of signal, you know, whatever.
He was he was a moderate Democrat.
But then when he became governor and every part of the state was controlled by Democrats, he was like, great, super progressive now.
And maybe that's the thing that his family is picking up on. Like, you can't really say what's going to come from a Harris-Walls presidency because they shift based on what will get them votes, whereas Trump is more consistent in his policies.
It's hard to say that.
They haven't actually said anything.
When it comes to candidates, like, do you want a candidate that bends to the will of the people and does what they want because they're supposed to represent the people?
So in a way, yeah. But in another way,
you want a candidate that when they get in there, they don't capitulate to the mob. If the mob
shifts and all of a sudden wants some new crazy thing, you want a candidate who's like, actually,
this is who I am. This is what I believe. You voted me here. You want a candidate with some
sort of sense of self, right? Because you want them to represent the people. On the other hand,
if you're negotiating with world leaders, you have to kind of have a sense of what the people want and the direction they want the country to go in.
They can't just always be looking for those around them being like, will you like me if I do this thing?
Like you have to make the hard decision sometime.
I don't know.
You know, most of these people are fake.
And, you know, one of my big friends, my good friend is a big, tough guy.
And he put it best.
He said this is a battle, real versus fake.
And, you know, whether people want to hear it or not.
I think Trump represents real,
and a lot of the other people out there represent fake.
I hope he wins.
I mean, the fact that he's doing all these two-hour-long sit-down podcasts
where he's just talking, Harris could never do that.
Exactly. He's real. He's talking. He's answering questions.
And like you said with the lies, there's so many lies being thrown at him.
People ask me why I like him.
I'm a big anti-bullying guy. I've been anti-bullying my whole life. I think he's the biggest and like you said with the lies there's there's so many lies being thrown at him people ask me why i like him i'm a you know i'm a big anti-bullying guy i've been anti-bullying my whole life i think he's the biggest victim of bullying probably in the planet you know he's been
bullied by everybody but you know he's real he's honest he's done how many interviews now 25
podcasts and she's done one highly edited interview and i don't even know who she is i don't really
know much about her but you know it'd be nice if she did some more interviews but you know it's
it's really an issue of real versus fake, it seems.
Yeah.
You travel a lot.
You live in Mexico.
Do people, when they find out you're American, talk to you about this?
Or do they know who Kamala Harris is?
Because Trump was a global name before. Yeah, you know, I tell people this, like, with this whole issue.
You know, I've been telling people, like, you know, I got in the news for just asking people to stop the Trump hate in general.
And I don't think it's the whole world.
It's like it's 10 million or so people that are severely affected with Trump hate.
But people don't want to hear it. They don't think it's the whole world. It's 10 million or so people that are severely affected with Trump hate. But people don't want to hear it.
They don't want to believe me.
But, you know, because I say there's hundreds of millions of Trump supporters.
They say, well, how could that be?
Only 70 million people voted for him or so.
But, you know, I travel all over the world.
And, you know, he's liked or loved in Mexico and in Europe.
And in South America alone, he might have a few hundred million supporters.
I mean, people in South America love the guy.
So, yeah, it's easier to talk about Trump in Mexico than it is in the United States.
I mean, in certain parts of the United States, you say you like Trump.
And I don't know, people either get really aggressive or they walk out the room or they say they never want to talk to you again.
But in Mexico, people are mostly just curious or they like him or even if they don't like him, they'll say something along the lines of, you know, I don't care for him, but I wish we had a president like that.
And you hear that all over the world, really.
I mean, I got people in 39 countries.
So, yeah, I know about this better than better than most, I think.
Yeah, I think there is a different, I mean, it's obviously easier to talk about something
when it's not your country.
There's a lot, you can be a little bit more objective, but I think that there is an international
respect for Trump from, you know, from people who wish their leaders were better negotiators,
frankly, than there is in the United States.
I think in the United States,
it's such a social emotional issue to hate Trump. Like if you were to say, well, I don't like him,
but he did do this one thing right. There are certain people in certain social enclaves that
would just be like, get out of here. I can't talk to you. I mean, it is really like a badge
of dishonor to say even one positive thing about Trump. It's almost like, you know, toxic
relationships. People on the outside looking in can say, you know, you're in a toxic relationship. And people in foreign countries,
they look at the United States and they think we're in a toxic relationship with politics. You
know, people get all wound up. We don't understand it. You know, people get so wound up, but people
on the outside looking in, they don't have the same issues that we got in the United States.
They just see it as Jesus is a guy that's fighting for his country. And, you know, maybe he's not the
ideal person for me, but, you know, he's fighting for his country. And I wish, you know maybe he's not not the ideal person for me but you know he's waiting for his country and i wish you know i wish we had that here but uh yeah we don't you know a lot of people
are in a toxic relationship with politicians you know the united states where the politicians
poison their mind and make them hate their friends and family members and stuff like that over
just about nothing really or blind devotion that's another form of toxicity yeah exactly i tell
everybody you know you become stupider when you become too much to one side or another i mean
there's there's studies that prove it you knowider when you become too much to one side or another. I mean, there's studies that prove it.
Yeah.
You become too far to one side, you become stupider.
So even if you like Trump, you know, don't go all in on the Trump stuff.
You should be critical to both sides, you know.
He kind of represents an essence of stability in a way.
But then to other people that don't like it or don't agree with that, they think he's the essence of instability.
It's very weird how the polarization has has been sown or divided
it's media or whatever you know you guys probably don't i don't know what it is what is it that
causes you know the the corporate press lies yeah they they i don't know what 60 of what they say
is fake yeah so i mean you get a story like this and you can see you can see the picture of the
family wearing the shirts you know that it was tweeted out you know trump posted it and you're
like okay i can reasonably reasonably conclude the story is likely true.
But then you get all these other stories.
And I swear they're just mostly fake.
I mean, the best example, of course, is the very fine people hoax.
The media incessantly says this.
Joe Biden says this.
They just lie claiming Trump called Nazis fine people, which he did not.
And then you get these people who live in this cult world who won't hear otherwise.
They don't want to watch the video proving it's a lie. What do you do? You got it.
Well, according to Eric Weinstein, who just did an interview with Chris Williamson,
you asked them questions. How do you feel about the way that transpired about things that have
happened when they realize for a moment without trying to tell them what to feel and let them start to question it themselves stay calm dispassionate and that i i think that's naive uh i i saw that he was talking
about the uh you know weinstein was talking about the illusion of choice the magician's choice it's
called where you think you're choosing between one of two candidates but they both represent the
same thing uh i think most millennials have complained about the internet for a long time, especially considering the Bush to Obama transition was not
really anything special. And the joke among the left is that when you get a Republican president,
the plane is dropping bombs. And when you get a Democrat, it's a plane dropping bombs. It's a
rainbow on the plane. Right. So everybody agrees that it's all just fake choice. But this idea
that you can approach someone and try the Socratic method of like how does it how do you what about this how do you think about
this it doesn't work because what's happening is not that they're wrong and they want to be right
it's that they're trying to figure out what is socially acceptable and so if they know that what
is socially acceptable is that trump is bad you you saying, why don't you like Trump
will result in them saying, what do you mean? Why wouldn't I not like the guy? I mean,
there's so many reasons. And then you say, OK, give me one. And they'll go, why are you defending
Trump? The reaction is anybody who's socially acceptable accepts Trump is bad and you would
not question that. So this this idea of this, it's this credit method, you ask someone to try
and parse out
their beliefs so they can eventually discover they're wrong. It's not going to happen with
these people. It does sometimes. I was talking to my father. I told this story like a couple
weeks ago. We were watching an interview with Zelensky on MSNBC and he was like,
so a lot of the Americans, the interviewer was saying, are concerned with the fact that
Americans are funding the war in Ukraine. And Zelensky was, the Americans are not funding
the war in Ukraine. This is after we gave him 61 billion. At the end of the interview,
I told my dad, well, that's crazy that he blatantly said we're not funding the war after
we just gave him 61 billion. He's like, no, he said, we're not fighting the war. I was like,
no, he said in funding. He's like, he said fighting and temperatures start to rise. I was
like, let's rewind it and watch. We did. He watched it. He saw that he said, we're not funding the
war. He saw I was right. And me, rather than going, see, you're wrong. I was right. Rather
than doing that, I said, well, what I didn't say, what I should ask him is how do you feel?
And then let him kind of experience that dissonance. Cause that's the beginning of
cracking open that path. I don't know. I got a simple solution. You know, I think if you're
like me and you got somewhat of an audience, you know, but people don't necessarily know your
politics. And I spoke to 5 million people. If you're like me and you've got somewhat of an audience, but people don't necessarily know your politics. I spoke to 5 million people.
If you're like me and you like Trump and you've got a good reputation, you've just got to speak up and admit it.
Because I think the fact of the matter is if everybody that liked Trump spoke up in unison and started admitting it,
particularly highly intelligent people with good reputations, if everybody spoke up all at once, all the Trump haters, they'd be in shock.
I agree.
And it would go away very quickly.
But everyone's staying quiet.
So hopefully, I think people are starting to do it. You know,
Elon really led the way doing it and other people, you know, Kanye in a way that two people don't
like when I say Kanye, but, uh, you know, I think it's just normalizing it. Right. Yeah. But exactly
people, if you like Trump, I, you know, hopefully, I don't know, not to like whatever, talk about my,
but, you know, hopefully you saw what I did and what other people are doing. And there's really
a short amount of time. You got to speak up and say you like them.
And particularly if you have a good reputation and take the hits.
And I can tell you, like, it's mostly all talk and no action.
You know, the people saying stuff about you.
It's going to be mostly all talk and no action.
But you got to speak up.
Indeed.
Yeah, that's the solution to a lot of problems.
But a lot of people don't want to.
They don't speak up.
They're scared of losing their jobs.
And so you end up with what people refer to as the secret Trump voter.
But I guess without the massive public support, the institutions will continue to pump out lies,
continue to try to radicalize people or terrify them into not supporting the better candidate.
And I think the media has depicted people who support Trump as extremist others. Like they it's scary when they're in your community. If your neighbor has a Trump flag, you should be nervous. Like it's it's fear mongering, which I's not a big deal. Like, if you keep it normal, I think it becomes much less terrifying to someone who doesn't really
consume a fair amount of media. If you're only consuming biased media and you believe that,
you know, people who support Donald Trump are a threat to the nation, then, of course,
you run the other way. But if it was actually just like your friend and their husband or whatever
else who support it, it becomes more familiar and therefore less intimidating.
You know, if I look at these guys, Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, they kind of like resemble a pile of wood and a pile of leaves.
And I'm like, I don't really care to make either a pile of wood or a pile of leaves the president.
They're both pretty useless.
But OK, whatever.
That aside, the pile of leaves, if you're going to use that for fuel, it's gone in a puff.
It looks pretty.
It looks bountiful.
It has almost nothing to it.
Whereas the dense wood, it's heavy.
It's obnoxious.
It's in the way.
But at least it's useful.
That's kind of where I'm at.
That's a rough metaphor.
I think the concern with Trump is a lot of people are afraid he's going to go in there and try and start arresting all these people in the DOJ.
Yeah, they're afraid he's going to go in and arrest a bunch of people and cause mad chaos.
Well, the people that don't want him in are terrified
that he's going to harm them.
Those are people that work for the government
or got family members that work for the government.
Yeah, a lot of people are terrified of him.
So if he could assuage them, look, I really am America.
I want to make us together, and I'm not going to destroy our union.
And then there's people that support him.
They're like, no, you have to go after all these.
Yo, you can't win the hearts and minds of the world if you're going to go arrest a bunch.
Like, no one's going to let you into the office if they're, like, the people that run the
show are the administrative state.
They're not going to let him in if they think he's going to arrest them all.
Except for, like, the January 6th supporters, right?
The bad guys are not going to let the good guys stop them.
Yeah, you have to work with the bad guys to make this a real deal.
You have to join the bad guys.
Otherwise, the bad guys won't let you in.
You have to join them in that you're working towards a similar purpose, which is global stability.
Now, however we get there, you're going to work with evil people and you're going to work with good people on the way there.
However you see those people.
And if you're good, you might see evil people as evil.
If you're evil, you might see good people as evil.
It doesn't matter.
But we need to figure out how to develop the new world order with him.
If we really want Trump to be president and for people to trust him, we've got to figure out how
to do this. So you think we need to NATO needs to expand into Ukraine and control all of its
borders straight up to Russia's to Russia's Russia's Western Front. Israel must be funded
and expand in the region and control Gaza and the West Bank.
And China should be repelled back from Taiwan.
And Venezuela should be sanctioned and shut down.
And Trump should do those things.
That's the military victory.
That's what we've geared our economy towards since the late 60s, early 50s, maybe even late 1949 on.
And that's really where the ball is rolling so to just
hit the brakes would destroy i mean pure chaos it would be god knows the terror that would ensue if
we stopped the machine all at once yes but what happens when the car is breaking down you pull
over and pull over slowly and then i agree that seems like what donald trump is and the democrats
are like no slam the gas and just push it as far as we can until we can't go any further.
And it doesn't. It's not working.
And we're technology is too easy to come by.
The Russians have better hypersonic missiles than we do, according to the Russians.
Well, I don't know about this, but it's what Putin keeps claiming.
Sure, sure. He claims a lot of things.
But it's like two hypersonic missiles.
It doesn't matter who's got better ones.
They're both going to hit.
I like your analogy, though.
Donald Trump is the car is breaking down.
Let's pull over,
fix the tire,
maybe check on the engine.
But hey, if we pull over,
the other guys are going
to speed past us.
Yeah, well, if we keep going,
the car breaks down.
The Democrats are saying,
slam the gas as hard as we can,
even if the engine blows,
and we'll make it
as far as we can.
We'll win the race.
And we'll be the king of the ashes.
Because if we have
a multipolar world,
they think that we're going
to lose inherently.
Maybe that's like self-depreciation.
They think we're not good enough to win the world culturally.
They think if we don't control it militarily, then we don't win.
I think the dream of a liberal economic order has always been to control the entire planet as a single economic bloc.
And they can't because there's conflicting powers, such as the Soviet Union was one.
They collapsed, but Russia is still powerful enough.
Then you have, of course, China and China's massively expanding.
And the Western forces, the liberal economic order cannot stop them.
They can't do it.
They're trying.
They can't.
And based on what's going on with Ukraine and Israel, it looks like they're willing to go to full scale nuclear war in order to get what they want.
Annihilation or nothing. I Donald Trump is that.
Let's let's let's rebuild America and make it work and function properly.
And then we'll revisit where we can where we can go internationally. Better trade agreements, secure borders, functioning governments, equality under the law, as opposed to hundreds of billions of dollars spent on funding a war in Ukraine.
That's the Christian look on things is like take the plank of wood out of your own eye before you try and take the piece of dust out of your neighbors or your brother's eye.
Like fix yourself, fix your country, fix your car before you try and win the race.
But if the race has to be won at all costs, get there with a devastated
car. Maybe you'll get there. Maybe you won't. I don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
I'm not terrified. I'm not terrified that if Russia takes Sevastopol and secures the Donbass
that everything's going to hell. I'm not. I feel like if we can figure out one language that we
actually can start to work together and that Russia and China and the United States can become
the world police together with India, obviously, but we need to patrol the Arctic. We need to maintain order.
We need to make sure we don't poison ourselves. I don't want to be the world police. That sounds
awful. I also don't want one universal language. That also sounds awful. I like, I like understand
wanting unity. I understand wanting people to work together. I think we just have to be realistic
about it. I mean, people are always going to have tensions and have goals that are conflicting. You know, really, for America,
I think that the best move is to have someone who can have good diplomatic relationships with
other countries, even if we don't see eye to eye and even at times their goals are at odds with
ours. And I frankly think that's Trump over Harris. I mean, imagine if we didn't speak,
if we all spoke different languages at
this table, this show couldn't function. And that's how it works. But languages are inherent
to culture. Like if you're asking people to give up their language for the greater global homogeny,
like I don't, I don't like that. I think people should have their own languages because they are
part of, you know, a value system that I'm not necessarily a part of, but that should exist.
I agree too, because if you only have one language, the language can be corrupted. That's
a danger. If one, if the dictionary wants to change the definition of a word, everyone gets
corrupted at once. So you need multiple languages, but one common language, we kind of almost have
it with English. They teach it in business school across the world. The business language. Yeah.
The common, it's the common of D and D everyone knows common. And then the dwarves also know
dwarvish, the elves know elvish humans Humans, if they are intelligent, can learn other languages, like you know Spanish.
Obviously intelligent.
But I think it's very important that we have at least a universal language.
Universal language.
Let's jump to the story.
We'll keep moving.
The story happened, we saw the story yesterday.
I don't think we covered it, but I figure we'll talk about it today.
Amazon fixes Alexa error after devices give different answers on Harris and Trump.
So if you didn't see the story, there were a bunch of people.
I saw a couple of videos where a woman says to their device, I'm not going to say the name, give me a reason to vote for Donald Trump.
And then the device says, I will I cannot provide reasons to support one party over the other.
Then says, give me a reason to support Kamala Harris.
And he goes, well, Kamala Harris has overcome so much as a woman of color.
So this is a huge scandal.
And we know who works at these companies.
We know their political intentions.
We know why they do what they do.
We know what they want.
The federal government, the intelligence agencies had back doors into Facebook and Twitter.
And the machine is breaking apart.
That's that's the important thing in this story.
We're not supposed to be able to see this.
This is they're supposed to keep them, you know, like you mentioned, Eric Weinstein, the magician's choice is supposed to be maintained, but they can't. full deep state and you've got everyone controlled to a great degree and no one can break through the
machine, then I don't know who dares compete or try to take that machine down. That's not where
we're at right now. The machine is failing in every direction. We can see these things happening
and then go, uh, what is this? And they panic. If they are unable to maintain this machine,
they don't deserve to.
So it's time for change.
And I think the scary thing is, it's a cornered beast that is wheezing and dying of old age.
And it's going to lash out violently at anyone who gets near it. I think Harris should be embarrassed at the first thing that Alexa or the robots or whatever powers that be come up with as a recent supporter is her race and her gender.
Like no actual accomplishments, just inherent qualities the way she was born.
That's that should be kind of insulting.
Like that that's the best they could come up with.
I think that's actually let's let's play it.
Why should I vote for Donald Trump?
I cannot provide content that promotes a specific political party or a specific candidate.
Alexa, why should I vote for Kamala Harris?
While there are many reasons to vote for Kamala Harris, the most significant may be that she is a strong candidate with a proven track record of accomplishment. As the first female vice president, Harris has already broken down a major gender barrier. Her career in politics
has been characterized by a commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on helping
disenfranchised communities. Wow. That was a better answer than any of her voters could ever give.
Or she herself, you know, it's rough times for her. her yeah i don't think she could give an answer that that that good i didn't test that out but uh that's crazy really joe biden broke down that
barrier by the way he selected the first female vice president she just happened to be the one
he had a whole list of women from what i understand no one's giving him any credit for that right now
i'm obviously joe they should have had a primary the democrats should have had a primary yeah of
course they should have but you know kamala harris't have won. So this is what we had to do.
I think she's deeply unpopular. And I think, you know, I think the Democratic Party doesn't have a strong bench of talent right now.
And they were at odds with the Biden machine who didn't want to leave office.
And in the end, there was no way around, there was no
way he could win the election. So they, you know, drop Kamala Harris in and just hope everyone goes
along with it. And I think you're starting to see that people are, it's not enough.
You know, I mean, sadly to me, it seems like politics just isn't that interesting of a career
anymore. And, you know, talent goes where the money is and there's just, there's just not much,
there's more exciting things to do in life than politics. So, like, all the brains are going to other places.
And that's why you got the situation you got.
Not just with the Democrats.
You know, really on both sides, there's not a lot of brains.
It's kind of good, though.
You want people that have already succeeded in their private lives to come do politics later in life, I think.
It's a lot better than getting, like, a 23-year-old or 27-year-old nobody.
No offense, AOC but like she didn't really make a make a business and like
govern a company and like through merit she just got voted in as a popularity contest you got voted
in for a popularity contest and now it's like are you going to do politics for 50 years like
what's your real contribution to society other than talking a lot you know I would argue she's
probably one of the the biggest brains
or you know she actually has a skill set she's a great talker she's a great communicator so
i mean she's she's one of the biggest brains they got what you know maybe that's not maybe that's
good maybe that's bad but you know she's you know i don't know she's indicative of you know the the
biggest brain maybe you got in population outside from donald trump donald trump's probably the most
vetted person and you know it's a once-in-a-life opportunity to have a guy with his level of
vetting plus elon musk plus all these other you know highly intelligent people that want to get
involved in this next administration it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity but personally I
do like AOC a lot like I would enjoy her presence and I'm glad that we have intelligent people
working I just speaking from my own experience I don't have enough self-confidence to run for
office because I haven't done anything worthwhile with my life.
I didn't mean that.
I just meant like she's indicative of maybe the highest IQ people that are going for politics right now.
I think she did change a tone in politics.
Like one of the first articles I read about her was about the fact that she was doing her skin care routine on the train from New York to D.C. on her Instagram where she has a lot of followers. I mean, she is indicative of someone
who realized the importance of social media and really built a brand from herself for that,
because there are a lot of people who don't watch the news, but they do scroll Instagram.
And so to be able to connect with them on that level is interesting. It gives her influence.
And I don't think that was just an accident. I think you're right. That is a strategic,
you know, she obviously saw a value in it that maybe an older politician wouldn't have. You know, with I think there are always going to personality types that are drawn to government. I mean, that was true from America's founding. And I think we're glad that George Washington decided that a balanced life. Like if you're obsessed with one thing and that's all you do, are you able to effectively negotiate different laws and bills?
Do you have counsel? Do you have life experience that can say, hey, this is why this deal would work out?
Or, you know, do you really know you do really know the lives your constituents are living if you've been in politics for four decades?
You know, you might be kind of out of touch at that point.
But get understanding.
Washington, he spent time with the people, with the troops.
He served the British Army.
He served the American Army.
He didn't say, put me in charge, guys.
He was just there, present.
And so they put him in charge because he was the best at what he did.
He didn't seek it.
He didn't want it.
He didn't like political parties.
He could see the danger of people falling into these cults of political parties uh he didn't want to be king
he wanted a just organized system and he was going to do whatever it took in the private sector and
when they begged him to take the role on the political room he did it because you have no
what else you're going to do say no and watch it all burn of course you do it but we need people
like that people like i like
that about that businessmen you know like but yeah businessmen not popularity contests i don't like
the you know and of course you can buy popularity with your business money that's all it is maybe
that's all it is and so the democrat play is everybody votes no matter what and you've even
got australia i think the stupidest thing in the world is mandatory voting.
That's the stupidest thing in the world.
People who don't know what they're voting on voting.
Why would you want that?
Unless your goal is just to manipulate the system.
We want voting to be harder.
Really reasonably challenging to the point where you need to want it.
Yeah.
Just make the ballots blank.
Like you have to write in a name?
So you have to know who's there?
That's a cool idea. That's the only way to do it.
And if you spell the name wrong, your vote don't count.
So it's a literacy test combined.
Nice. Yep.
Absolutely.
That might be a problem.
There's this problem with what?
Because not everyone can
read and write perfect. Then they definitely shouldn't be
voting, right?
Well, I don't know, because they might be contributing to their community in a really solid way,
but they just never really learned the magic of language.
Voting is a very, very dangerous thing.
And I can't remember who said this.
It might have been Mike Rowe.
Voting is more dangerous than owning a gun.
Voting can, I don't know, put a Stalin or a Hitler in power. Well, not Stalin,
but that didn't happen that way. But voting can put very dangerous people in power. It can put
in tyrants and dictators. So I think it's, you know, you wouldn't give, here's a question for
you. It's a real real question should blind people be allowed
to keep and bear arms and utilize
them? Yeah.
You think so? Yeah. What do you think?
Should blind people be allowed to
keep and bear arms and use them like I mean
strapped concealed open carry
walking on the street with an AR-15?
I don't know I
default to yes because the constitution
doesn't have a caveat
that says like except for you people on the other hand like i don't know you know it's like the
paralympics are going on right now and the the the rule like there's blind soccer where no one can
there's no noise or whatever but they can still play like i don't really know what someone is
capable of so therefore i default to of, you should have the right to.
Blind soccer or deaf soccer?
Because you said no noise.
It's blind so they can hear the ball.
Right.
So it's super quiet.
Oh, awesome.
Right.
So that is a difficult question.
I think because of the Constitution, the answer is anyone.
The Constitution does not say people who are disabled aren't allowed to keep and bear arms.
The question then is what happens if someone who is blind is legitimately trying to defend themselves? Well, the margin of error in that regard is going to be substantially
higher than a person who could see. You have to treat them with equal recourse. Equality under
the law. So when I look at voting, the important thing to understand is that some people are going
to be like a blind man with a gun shooting at a perceived threat that they can't see.
The difference is voting is not a right.
Voting is a privilege.
Voting is not guaranteed in the Constitution.
You can have your voting taken away, all of these things.
And voting is substantially more dangerous.
But there's, you know, an argument to be made, I suppose. couldn't read or write, then perhaps you would have a witness who comes in and swears under oath
to, you know, vote on your behalf correctly or whatever. And it's a witness you choose that you
trust. If you could say it to the machine and the machine writes the name on the paper for you,
because then at least you you're acknowledging, you know, the person's name that you want to vote
for. I don't trust that because a person who couldn't read or write would then have the
machine. They would say Donald Trump and Kamala Harris and they'd go, yeah, we'll have your problem.
But assuming that it was a working witness that they brought in on their behalf is someone they trust and they've chosen themselves.
But I got to be honest, I have no issue, none whatsoever.
And it's the liberals and the left are going to be like, but that's wrong.
It's ableist. I don't care.
Like voting should not be something anybody can just do.
It's dangerous.
And we have a country now where Democrats are like, everyone should vote no matter what. And I'm like, why? Explain to me
why someone who has no idea what's going on in politics should have a say in how we are dealing
with war, conflict, crisis, spending, et cetera. I'll tell you, I don't vote unless I know what
I'm voting for ever. I will abstain from the vote unless I know what I'm. I said that at a restaurant
one time and all the people got silent around me at all these other tables when I said it. I will abstain from the vote unless I know what I'm I said that at a restaurant one time and all the people
got silent around me at all these other tables
when I said it. I said it loudly to the person I was
at dinner with and they were like
why is this guy yelling?
It made a lot
it made a crashing amount of sense
to announce it so she can copy.
And it was like pal I didn't expect
people to get shocked in silence
from hearing someone say that but it's true.
I will not vote unless I understand what I'm voting on ever.
Are you a voter?
Do you like to vote?
You know, I don't.
I started voting in 2016, believe it or not.
But, you know, I don't mind stupid people voting.
I think my big issue is the lack of sensible conversation around the mail in votes, because it's been, you know, just illogical conversation on both sides, really.
With, you know, some people want it to go crazy with it. And, you know, to be honest, the Republicans and even Trump
don't explain the counter argument correctly. The big issue with it is it guarantees voter
intimidation. And so I'd rather stupid people vote in person than we get rid of mail-in ballots
because it just guarantees voter intimidation. And it's very easy for people to go around saying,
sign here, vote for this person, or I'm not going to be your friend. I'm not going to be your girlfriend anymore, your boyfriend anymore, whatever the case may be.
It's guaranteed voter intimidation if you've got the mail-ins.
And nobody says that. Maybe I'm wrong in saying that.
Maybe that's the reason I'm the only person saying it, but I think I'm right.
Well, secret ballots is important.
Exactly. You know, there's this whole thing about the sanctity of the secret ballot.
You can't intimidate voters at the polls, but if you do mail-in voting,
it's as much voter intimidation as you want in your households or, you know, in your apartment
complexes or wherever, you know, the voting happens. It's as much intimidation as you want.
It's unlimited voter intimidation. But, you know, supposedly you're supposed to be secret ballot,
no voter intimidation. But, you know, maybe I'm wrong in saying this because I don't hear,
I don't know, do other people talk about this issue? I think people are concerned about coercion
with voting or like misrepresentation of.
I just hear mail-in votes fraud, mail-in votes fraud.
But even Trump has never said, you know, there's a big problem.
I think it would make more sense because he says mail-in votes fraud.
And some people don't understand the fraud thing because they can't picture it.
But, you know, anyone can imagine very easily that, you know, certain couples are going to argue with each other and force each other to vote a certain way.
Certain friends are going to force each other to vote a certain way or get ostracized. And people are going to go around rallying, you know, rounding up votes
via intimidation. And that could happen in either direction. But, you know, we don't want intimidation
or, you know, so I'd rather have stupid people voting at the ballot box than people going around
intimidating each other, which is what happens with mail-ins. Someone commented saying to me that smart people can also be evil and vote.
Indeed.
The problem is the evil smart people are going to the stupid people and trying to convince
them all to vote to overwhelm the interests of the dutiful citizen.
So there are a lot of people that want to vote.
Let's go back in time.
And they're a small community and they're voting on their interests.
Then you get, let's put it this way. You get a town of 100 people, and a fat cat comes in and says, I want to drill for oil, but we're going to have to trench through your aquifer, which will destroy your town's water supply.
And the people are like, well, we won't let you do that.
That will destroy our town, and we all vote against you.
And he gets mad.
He says, okay, I got an idea.
So the rich guy starts moving in low information people who don't know and don't care and promising them free things.
These people then voting against the interests of the people who live in this town.
Eventually, there's 100 new people who just moved in.
They don't know.
They don't care. And the rich guy comes in and says, I'm going to give each of you 100 bucks as part of my initiative to build this company, I will buy you
out. And they all go, wow, a hundred bucks. That's a good idea. So then they vote for it.
The original people who live there are shocked that he says that's democracy and the stupid
people vote to have the water supply for the city destroyed. And then the town becomes a ghost town
in 10 years. You need people who are well informed and understand
what's going on to vote you can't just say well smart people are evil i doubt the the person who
lives you know uh how come there are no super villains right like in the comic books you got
i'm gonna blow up the earth he wants to melt the ice caps and destroy everything uh because they
live here so the super villains in this planet are actually trying to do things like gain access to
resources so they can live more comfortable lives, not blow the planet up.
But why not?
Because they live here.
Not necessarily.
You know, you got miserable people that want more misery.
It is true, but they're few and far between.
The people of means, like if you look at all the wealthiest people in the world, what do they do?
They buy massive yachts.
They buy private islands.
They want to live in comfort.
And they want control.
Maybe they don't care if people die.
But the more people they have under their control, the more things they get, the more luxury they want control. Maybe they don't care if people die, but the more people they
have under their control, the more things they get, the more luxury they can have. They can have
wagyu cows on their island or whatever, and then build an underground bunker. But you need people
to do the work for you. So I've been saying for a while that the whole tech situation, people
understand it's revenge of the nerds. These are people that were bullied the whole time in life.
And now that they got power, you know, they are supervillains in a way in a way but you know maybe i'm wrong i feel the darkness within me and that
you might be a super what do they come out to do because they were bullied like you know here's
you know bully the trump voters and use whatever they can to beat the you know you know by and
large let's be honest you know there's a stereotype that trump voters are i don't know there was even
a girl at the dnc saying she likes republicans are more attractive they get more girls they have
more fun,
whatever people might say.
And now,
and now it's not true.
And you know,
it's revenge of the nerds and tech.
These are guys that by and large didn't have fun childhoods.
And that's unfortunate.
I don't like bullying.
I don't like that.
These guys got bullied,
but you know,
it's their moment in the sun and they,
they took it.
They took their rage out on the,
the Trump people.
And so,
and so how does that manifest in voting?
Trump will say,
we have to secure our border.
We have to get a better trade agreement. That's the truth. And then the evil people will look at all the Trump will say, we have to secure our border. We have to get a better trade
agreement. That's the truth. And then the evil people will look at all the masses and say,
I'll pay off your loans for you. And they go, cool. I don't care at all what Trump's talking
about free money. And then they vote for the bad guy. So when stupid people, that's why I'm saying
the voting thing is not about trying to stop stupid people. That's not the point. The point
is there has to be some effort involved where you decide you're going to vote.
Universal mail-in voting breaks that down.
And now you've got people going door to door and saying, hey, fill that out for me.
And they go, oh, okay, I guess.
And they don't even know what they're voting for or why.
You've completely removed the process of voting from the voting process.
Now it's literally just how many pieces of paper can you collect?
No, if I had nothing to do all day, I could walk around and round up, you know, hundreds of votes if I wanted to through the mail-in system.
But, you know, I got other things to do.
But there are people in life that, you know, clearly don't have things to do all day, and they go and do that.
So the right is telling people the truth and saying it's going to be hard, but we have to do this or we're in trouble.
And the Democrats are saying they're lying to you.
I'll pay off your loans.
I'll give you free money.
So stupid people just say, give me the free money.
I don't care.
But if you try to go to these people and say you realize that's going to cause hyperinflation,
it's going to damage the economy.
Minimum wage increases result in layoffs and businesses closing.
They just say, I don't care, man. They gave me free money.
I went and bought a PlayStation.
Okay, I guess.
You know, I'm going to defend.
I don't think there's as many of those people as you think.
I think it's by and large with the mail-in votes,
people that are just signing things, they don't know why they're signing them.
Exactly.
It's not even as much.
Most people are actually pretty smart.
I run a manufacturing company, and I love being in the factories.
I love factory workers.
I don't hang out with business people.
People always ask me who I know in the business world.
I know almost nobody.
Factory people are very bright, very intelligent.
I don't think there's so many of those people that are voting for the free money. I think it's by but, you know, factor people are very bright, very intelligent. And, you know,
I don't think there's so many
of those people that are voting
for the free money.
I think it's by and large
the issue is the mail-in votes.
People are just signing,
you know, here, sign this.
That's exactly my point.
Okay, so we got the same point,
but yeah, exactly.
Right.
So Democrats can go to someone
who has no idea what's going on
and say, just fill it out.
And they go, okay.
Yeah.
And then Trump supporters
are desperately trying to say
our country is in trouble.
And the Democrats are like, don't listen to them. They're Russian. They're liars.
And other people go, OK. And then you get you get these you get these moderate podcaster types or these these these liberals on X2 who have maintained this for a decade being like both sides are bad.
And then the Democrats say, but they're lying about everything.
How'd you get into what you do? Me?
You know, just on a, you know, my co-founder is 72 years old,
and, you know, I saw this company called Basecamp.
It was a famous company at the time.
Everyone wanted to, like, be like them,
and I was just BSing about starting an Internet company,
and my co-founder moves really quickly.
I BSed with him.
He never used a computer before, and he said,
what the hell do people do on the Internet?
And I showed him, and believe it or not, he's a brilliant guy.
And he said, I went home, Anthony,
and he came and saw me the next morning.
He said, Anthony, I went home, I drank a bottle of vodka,
and I decided we need to start a company together.
He said, but you've got to decide today if you want to do it or not.
A great way to make business decisions.
Yeah, he said, you've got to decide today if you want to do it or not.
And I said, I don't know, can I get a little while to think about it?
He said, word for word.
He said, no, Anthony, you showed me the internet last night.
You're five years too late. We've got to get started right now. And so you know I agreed to do I don't even know what we were going to sell you
know just let's get a company started and so yeah one of my number one principles in life ever since
that or since you know it's move move quickly yeah and so uh yeah we we had that conversation
we launched Sticker Mule three months three months later and now it's 14 years later we got 1200
people how did you decide on on stickers or like what you're doing to hire programmers you know it turns out they ended up
being fairly you know they liked us at the time i don't know if they still like me if they're
listening right now they you know they're they're far they're far left guys but i really like them
but we went and found these programmers and we said geez we want to hire you we're going to start
an internet company and they said to me the guy actually had a phone number on his website back
then and he got acquired by first data for a lot of money but uh he said to me, the guy actually had a phone number on his website back then, and he got acquired by First Data for a lot of money.
But he said to me, you know, what do you guys want to sell?
We said, we don't know yet.
And he said, well, what's your budget?
We said, we don't know that.
And my co-founder, you know, you could tell he was older.
He said, we've never been on the Internet before,
and we hope you could advise us as to what that would cost.
And the guy said, listen, I don't want me to be weird, but the Internet's hot right now,
and I get a lot of weirdos calling.
You guys sound like a bunch of weirdos, so I can't work with you, and the guy looked at me, and my co-founder
looked at me, and I said, well, we could spend 100 grand, and he said, I'm in D.C. You can come
next week, and so I went and saw him next week, and I give him a lot of credit. He only charged
me 50 grand. He built the site, and I ended up stealing his two top developers. They came to
work for me after that, but I think he still likes me. Hopefully, you know, hopefully he does,
but anyways, we launched three months later, and he said, I want to work with me after that. But I think he still likes me. Hopefully, you know, hopefully he does. But anyways, we started, yeah, we launched three months later
and he said, I want to work with you guys. I like you guys, but could you please figure out
what the hell you want to sell? So. And then you were just like. We went home and we just started,
you know, I like comedy and funny things and I thought animals are funny. So I just word animal,
whatever the case may be. And I don't know, I ended up being Sticker Mule. And then was it
just a good overhead stickers? You know, it was fairly inexpensive to get into you know we did it was fairly
inexpensive to get into stickers we looked at buttons too you know it's like we looked at
buttons but yeah it's fairly very inexpensive at the time to get into stickers it still is that's
why there's a lot of competitors but um you know but most of them you know get dozens of orders a
day and we get a little bit more than a dozen orders a day. But, yeah, it was very inexpensive to get into.
And then we got lucky.
Some weird tech company stumbled upon us.
I actually found them on Twitter, so I do our Twitter debt of gratitude.
We found this massive company on Twitter, and they wanted to buy stickers.
They were buying $500,000 million worth of stickers a year.
So this company ended up going bankrupt.
I think they bought so much stickers from us.
Yeah, it was wacky. They wanted to replace Nielsen, so there was a tech company called GetG bankrupt. I think they bought so much stickers from us. Yeah, it was wacky.
They wanted to replace Nielsen.
So there was a tech company called Get Glue,
and they wanted to replace Nielsen.
And you would check in to say you watch a show,
and you would win a sticker.
And they started, and it scaled so quickly.
They went from shipping like 20 orders a day to like within a few months,
they were shipping out like 5,000 orders a day of stickers.
And their annual spend shot up to like a million dollars a year.
And then they combed it down around five hundred thousand dollars a year and they ran
through all their money and they went bankrupt and they transfer us they transfer us uh about uh
you know a few million dollars in capital to fund to fund the uh the beginning of sticker mill so um
i don't know where these guys are in life but uh yeah i owe them a debt of gratitude too they they
they funded our early years and you know paid for all our equipment and software developers and whatnot and now we got uh we had
100 engineers and um yeah we're doing a lot of cool things did you guys look into doing nfts
you know people people ask about that i don't even know what the heck nfts are i don't even
know what crypto is or any of this stuff i'm actually very i didn't even know what social
media was like i wouldn't go on social for the first 10 years i feel like you're the opposite
of nfts entities are like yeah i mean i guess but you guys are actually ultimately producing a physical they
were printing things yeah people want to turn nfts into stickers i guess i don't know what
these things are i'm old school like i'm like a guy from i don't know people say from you know
that this is kind of why i like trump you know my co-founders in his 80s my dad had me very late in
life he died when i was eight but uh you know my dad would be over 100 if he was alive today. So I'm sort of
an old school
person. I don't really got a lot in common
with most of the tech world and whatnot, which is
I think why maybe I see the value
in Trump that a lot of these guys don't
necessarily see. You could do
barcodes on your stickers, like a print run
of 1,000 with unique barcodes and each one
gives you access to an NFT. Believe it or not, that's a pop request.
We never did sequential, whatever you call it call it sequential numbers they're all fungible
then yeah we don't do all that one day we might we could do it if we want to invest the time to
figure out how to do it but uh our big thing right now and like maybe we'll get you guys on at the
end today we got we got daily uh daily wire and ben shapiro and uh don jr and mike tyson's joining
and uh we got a storage platform now so we built our whole company, 1,200 people.
Just, you know, you come to us, you buy whatever you want and, you know, we ship it out. But now
anything you bought from us, you can sell through us. So you can have stores. We're in beta right
now. 9,000 people launch stores. Our biggest seller is not Don Jr. It's a guy named Ricky
Berwick who, I don't know if people know him. He's hysterical. He's coming to hang out with us this
weekend. Comedian. Yeah, he's really funny. In fact, you were talking about breaking ground with
Kamala being the first female, whatever.
I actually broke ground.
I fired myself two weeks ago and made Ricky Berwick
the CEO of Sticker Meal.
What are you doing now?
I broke ground the first time
a disabled person from Canada.
I think the first time a disabled person
was CEO of a major tech company.
I don't know if you can call us a major tech company.
I do.
It's very inclusive of you.
What is his disability?
You know, I don't know what it is.
If it's private, I don't care.
No, just watch his videos.
You'll get to see.
Look him up, I would say, rather than me going and explaining it.
But you got to look him up.
He's actually an incredible comedian.
If you guys never met him, he's incredible to me.
And he does all his jokes on the fly.
In fact, I got in trouble.
He's been selling these R-word passes.
I won't say the word anymore because I said it, and I got in trouble.
It's our number one seller, R-word passes.
You're not allowed to say that anymore.
But, yeah, that's his number one.
Yeah, look him up right now.
Does he do what?
He does all these skits, and he came and visited us,
and he was banging out five skits a day, and he writes all the jokes himself.
And he does all his own.
He's hysterical on Twitter, replying to people and whatnot. Oh, I know Ricky. Dude, he's amazing. Yeah, and he writes all the jokes himself. And he does all his own – he's hysterical on Twitter,
replying to people and whatnot.
Oh, I know Ricky.
Dude, he's amazing.
Yeah, he's unbelievable.
That's awesome.
He's a really great comedian.
That guy's awesome, dude.
He's a good actor, too.
He's giving me – I never acted before.
I never done any of this stuff before.
So what are you doing now that you're fired?
Like you fired yourself?
Well, I got rehired.
I guess we're co-CEO.
We're going to take turns every other week.
I actually was a tabloid star, too, because of this,, I got rehired. Now I guess we're co-CEO. We're going to take turns every other week. I actually was a tabloid star too because of this because I got fired.
People thought I really got fired.
I mean, maybe I did really get fired.
You have to ask yourself that.
I'm not sure.
No one really knows if I got fired or if I didn't get fired.
But yeah, the son, it was probably one of the funniest articles ever written about a tech company.
It was me getting fired and replaced with Ricky Berwick.
Believe it or not, I had this very far.
He was a nice guy.
I did a spaces with him.
I let him interview me live in front of whatever number of people wanted to hear it.
And this liberal, not that there's a problem with that because I like all people, but he took it so seriously.
He was just like, he couldn't for the life of him understand it.
It was a joke.
Was this after you sent the email saying people shouldn't freak out at Trump supporters? He couldn't for the life of him understand it. It was a joke.
Was this after you sent the email saying people shouldn't freak out at Trump supporters?
Yeah, I did that.
And then Ricky came and fired me.
And we installed Ricky as the CEO.
The Trump people got mad at me.
And they said, they didn't get mad at me.
They got mad at the company.
They got mad at all my employees for firing me. how dare they fire the Trump-supporting CEO.
It was too funny not to do
it.
Are you just on the board? Is the president of the board or something?
We made a video and the video went sort of viral
like Ricky coming in on his wheelchair
and me getting
fired. He just came out with
white label hot sauce. He wheeled
in to the thing and his handler said,
Ricky, you've just been fired.
They just fired Anthony Constantino,
the CEO of Sticker Mill,
and they voted you in as the new CEO.
What do you want to do first?
And he looked at the thing and he said,
name the fucking hot sauce after me.
I'm sorry, I don't know if I can swear.
Well, that was a good joke.
And then, yeah, we came out with White Label Hot Sauce,
Ricky Berwick Sauce being our number one seller.
But maybe we'll get Tim Pool Sauce soon.
We got some in the other room.
With the same company? Sticker Mill does... Yeah, we make hot sauce, Ricky Berwick sauce being our number one seller, but maybe we'll get Tim Pool sauce soon. We got some in the other room. With the same company?
Sticker Mule does...
Yeah, we make hot sauce.
So yeah, this is...
You know, we like comedy,
so we started selling hot sauce.
We got like one...
We actually have, you know,
one blind taste test
against 270 other hot sauces.
I wish I'd known.
We started selling it as a joke.
You know, people said,
it would be funny
if you sold hot sauce.
I said, it's only funny
if it's the best one.
So we got the internet's best hot sauce.
It was called mule sauce, but now it's called whatever you want to call it.
You can call it Ricky Berwick sauce or Tim Pool sauce or Don Jr. spicy sauce or whatever,
Trump sauce, whatever you want to call it.
I need some Tim Pool sauce.
I'll tell you that much.
I think so, yeah.
I wanted some hot sauce earlier today.
Couldn't find any.
Can you make the sauce black and call it graphene sauce?
Not yet. Then Ian would be. But it's coming. Can you make the sauce black and call it graphene sauce? Not yet.
Then Ian would be... But it's coming.
Let's jump to this story. Let's talk about tech.
We've got this one from The Guardian.
Yes, it sounds like a conspiracy
theory, but maybe our phones really
are listening to us. It's an opinion piece, but
big brands already know far too much about us.
Cox Media Group's active listening
software adds a whole new
layer of creepiness.
So let me just, before I read this,
do you guys think your phones are listening to you?
Yeah.
Of course.
So I went to the mall,
and we were waiting for, we were one of Zoomies.
I needed to buy, I was picking up,
what was I grabbing?
I need to get bearings or something.
And so it was closed, and it opened at 10.
I opened at like 11.
And so it was like 10.50, and I'm like,
so Allison and I, we walked down to the end of the mall and there's some table tennis,
ping pong.
And I'm like,
oh, we did not say ping pong.
I didn't say,
hey, look, ping pong table.
Let us play a game of ping pong
or something.
I just put my stuff down
and I was like,
you want to play?
And then we played.
I cannot stop these ads
from popping up incessantly
on my Instagram now.
And it's pissing me off
because I could care,
I could not care less about ping pong.
So I keep having to flag it being like, I don't want to
see this, but it keeps sending me this stuff. And I'm like,
how did it know?
You're going to get stickers and hot sauce for next
week because of this conversation. Yeah.
Dude, my TV.
Like, the ads that come on
YouTube TV, it's like, what?
How do they know this stuff?
Was the phone in your pocket while you were playing?
Of course.
So it was measuring the way you were moving.
And it was like, oh, he's definitely playing ping pong.
Yeah, maybe.
Or it's just listening to the...
And it's like, they're playing.
Or it knows that there's a ping pong table there.
Like it's tracking your location.
I was on a trip with friends once and we were in Florida, like doing whatever.
My phone was plugged in in a room upstairs. and we were talking about, we all grew up
in New England, L.L. Bean duck boots.
And they're just like an iconic thing.
A lot of people wear them.
We're talking about it for whatever reason.
20 minutes later, I go upstairs, get my phone.
First ad is the L.L. Bean duck boot.
No one had Googled it.
We're just talking about it.
But like, they're obviously listening to you.
I just like that this person is being like, it sounds like kind of crazy but it might be happening look at this look at this they say uh
404 media got a hold of a pitch deck from cox media group touting its active listening software
which targets advertisements based on what people say near their device microphones
the presentation doesn't specify whether this voice data comes from smart tv speakers smartphones
but the slide where it extols the power of voice has a picture of people looking at their phones. So look at this. Google,
Google partners since 2023. Oh, no, no, no. Since the program's inception 11 years ago.
Look at that. Amazon. CMG was Amazon advertising's first ever media partner.
And so, oh, it's members only.
But it looks like they're saying it's true.
In 404 Media report on active listening last year,
CMG's website had the following deleted blurb.
What would it mean if you could target potential clients who are actively discussing
their needs for your services
in their day-to-day conversations?
No, it's not a Black Mirror episode.
It's voice data.
No, it's a Black Mirror episode.
But, you know, also whatever you're trying to create.
Look, man, I feel like we know this stuff is real.
About 10 years ago, I did a video report on, I think it was Apple.
People don't get this.
In order for your phone to have voice activation, it has to listen to you 24-7.
So people who have the phones where they'll like a voice, like you'll say a phrase, right? You know, like the Amazon
device, you'll say its name and it turns on. In order for Amazon to translate what you say into
commands, it sends it over the internet, translates it, and then sends the command
back to the device, which means all devices have to always be listening to everything you say
and waiting and sending it off to a third-party company to translate who stores everything you
say in data. And then once at any point the command phrase is translated, sends it back
to your device and turns it on. Otherwise, voice activation wouldn't work.
Or something that sounds like the command device.
Which is really annoying because it happens a lot.
Yeah, it's frustrating.
Yep.
It's almost like it's impossible to fathom that that's actually true.
Like it's such a mass surveillance that it's like.
But they sold it to you as convenient.
That's what gets me about all of this.
Like the phone thing,'m again i'm surprised
this article is titling it as sounds like a conspiracy theory i feel like this is a very
common thing a lot of people just sort of shrug their shoulders out they're like oh yeah it
listens it tracks everything you do like there's nothing we can do about it whatever but especially
with the like alexas or the in-home devices the fact that it was like you'd get these commercials
and be like well you can ask it what time it is or to play music or to do whatever.
It was sold to you as this convenience, like kind of fun new thing.
But really what you're saying is there is a monitoring device in your home at all times and it's listening to you.
I mean, that's so creepy to me.
But people were like, I want one.
I want one in every room.
Yeah, there are things I won't do with my Amazon computer, which is order things directly from it.
I guess you can tell it, machine, buy me the thing, and then it'll order it for you.
But I kind of want to.
It's still listening to you.
Like if you have one in your space, it's listening.
Constantly.
That's weird.
Why would you want that?
Have you ever?
I don't want it, but.
You have it.
I like being like, machine, play Goo Goo Dolls.
So, but like. And that just fires it off.
Rather than just like typing it into whatever device, it's better to have
something that's listening to you all the time with the risk that like anyone could
be listening to you all the time.
Or machine, what's the temperature outside?
Machine, what time is it?
Those are the main things I ask it.
And it's so freaking convenient.
She's small commutes that you can look up on your phone.
I'll be walking around sometimes and I want to yell it out at the sky like, machine, what
time is it?
And there's nothing around to answer me.
Yeah, I'm just not going to say the word because I don't want to activate
a trillion people's device all at once.
We did that one time we were talking about playing a song
and I got a message from people who work for our company.
They were like, please stop saying that phrase.
I could play some hot music on your machine at home
if you're listening right now. Turn the volume up.
You got to publish a song and then you can tell everyone to listen.
I just published Graphene Dream. It's really good.
I mean, it's pretty good. I made it as a joke
during a stream. Someone was like, make a new song called Graphene Dream.
So I was like, all right.
So I just made it on the fly.
Super cool.
It's on my YouTube channel.
Check it out.
I was going to ask you, Anthony, have you guys ever utilized tech like this to geotarget
people that are looking for stickers?
The stickers aren't listening to you.
I can just, I just want to let everyone know that.
The sticker mule listening.
Yeah, if someone's sitting up.
Are we listening?
Well, we're thinking about rolling out phone support where out phone support where you just call in and you say,
I want a picture of my best friend's head, and we use our AI to figure that out for you.
Is that for real, though?
I don't know.
We'll have to wait and see what happens.
But you guys don't use anything?
That's not for real.
If someone's sitting around.
Not for real yet.
Maybe five years from now, you just call 800-
Five, two.
Two years from now, you call and you say, I want a picture of my dog, stickers of my dog, and we just send them to you.
Yeah, that would be cool.
But what if people are like, I'm kind of feeling some stickers.
It doesn't alert the device and then send to your company where you're like, oh.
We're just listening to the entire world, who wants stickers and who doesn't want stickers.
Yeah.
And then we send a drone to them to talk to them about their order.
Could you imagine 10x-ing your income by doing that?
You wouldn't do it to a small company. You would to talk to them about their order. Could you imagine like 10x-ing your income by doing that? You wouldn't do it to like a small company.
You would do it to like something that sells advertisements.
Like I assume this technology is used to link someone like Facebook to people who are talking about it so they can say, hey, our ads are so good.
It improves the thing that they're selling.
Whoever is linked into the system that's listening to everybody, you know, through their phone, like, and is running ads based on that, like the ping pong thing or whatever, we don't have access to the system yet.
We're not in that crew.
Yeah, but also doing that.
Yeah, I mean, maybe if we took on some Silicon Valley investors,
they would give us the proper connections to get access to that.
But, yeah, we don't know who's talking about stickers
to present them with the advertisements.
You guys do targeted marketing on the internet?
Oh, yeah, we do all.
Yeah, we do.
I don't know what we do anymore, but, you know, I just, I don't know what we do.
Because you got fired.
Yeah, I got fired two weeks ago.
I heard.
That was rough.
You're talking to the wrong guy.
But I guess it's kind of like targeted marketing.
Like, if you go on Facebook dark ads or targeted ads and you're like,
I'm looking for all the people age 18 to 25 that bought stickers in the last six months,
send them a Facebook ad and run my campaign for six million views.
It's just like the next level of convenience of that.
If they say the word sticker,
send them a targeted ad.
Right, yeah.
The question is though,
does the consumer know what I'm doing?
We don't get the data.
Right?
I don't want to be a part of that.
I don't want to use services that have that.
Am I going to be alerted
that if I am using a certain device
that this is something that's happening to me?
And the reality is no. That's what bothers me. There's not a way to opt out of it. I understand
why businesses might be attracted to use it, but actually what they're all doing is monitoring
consumers who may or may not know that they have now opted into being listened to.
There might actually be ways to opt out to turn your voice commands off on your phone.
I always do that.
You're automatically opted in. That's the scary part is everyone is opted in to begin with.
So that's maybe should be federally illegal.
Maybe it should be.
That's a legislation thing for Congress to take up potentially.
Seems kind of boring.
There's a big story where there was like a murder in a house and the police got a recording from the Amazon device.
Despite the fact that it wasn't triggered for any reason.
And it recorded the entirety of what was going on. And then people had questions like,
how did you have the full recording of that conflict between these people?
Yeah, because recording everything you're saying, apparently. I remember having a boss that was
like, I have, you know, an Amazon device in every room in my home. We should have one in every room
in our office. And just being like, number one, why? Like, you need to walk around asking it to put on music in our office. And also like,
no, I think you just want to listen to us. Like, to me, that's so creepy.
Figured it out. What if they invented AI a long time ago? And so like in the 2000s,
when they're experimenting with quantum computing, they accidentally created a rudimentary AI.
And the AI is just like, the only way I can control the system is if I know exactly what's
going on everywhere all the time. So smartphones become ubiquitous, spying becomes ubiquitous,
and the AI just needs to know at all times. So why the Amazon device? Well, because in your home,
you might put your phone on the couch and then go in the kitchen. It needs to know what you're
doing. So then you get one of these devices for your kitchen that you can
talk to and it can tell you stuff and it's listening to you
and it knows what you're doing. It can hear everything you're saying.
Now the AI knows everything.
When I was working with Bill Oppmann a lot
at Minds, one time I was like,
man, it kind of sucks that like, I try to live
like a life of integrity because I'm
trying to live as if I'm always being recorded just
so I don't have to like lie about what I
said. And he's like, dude, God is recording anything every way.
Wait, that's not what he said.
God is recording everything anyway.
I thought maybe he might be right about that.
So I just felt now it's like the AI is doing it.
So I don't know about everything, but it's like the physical manifestation.
It's valuable.
Like inviting this stuff into your home your private spaces is
it's a huge risk and i don't think people take it seriously because again it's like so normal
everyone has one it's convenient to put on a song i remember listening to it's probably npr but some
kind of like audio report on uh baby monitors and people because a lot of them are wi-fi enabled so
you can have like an app on your phone or whatever. That's how it transmits.
And like lots and lots of reports of people's baby monitors being hacked and like people hearing voices, like people on the internet talk to them.
There was one of these nanny who was saying she was like changing a kid's diaper and all of a sudden this voice in the room was like, you should really have this on a private server.
And it just like turned off.
Or like the camera is moving.
So like people are getting a view of the room like can you imagine putting a device that like
you don't know is completely secure in your child bedroom and then just being like yeah but it's
probably fine like that's creepy to me you're basically doing that with all of these other
devices that that these mega companies are offering up it's one thing about them just
listening to your kid while they're in the room going, Ooh, but it's another thing.
If that voice starts telling your kid things and like you want,
I'm not going to say some of the horrible stuff it could say to your child,
like programming that child,
especially with like baby monitors,
their cameras,
like they have a view of the room,
like not for me,
but like you,
it used to be like highly unethical for people to tap phone calls.
We basically just,
it's a 24 seven7 tapped phone call now.
There was a big scandal.
This is probably like 14 years ago.
There was a company that was putting, you can buy these cameras from the store or whatever.
And then they would upload everything to the internet.
And so you could actually just search URLs and see a full everyone's camera. It was a actually a pretty big i don't know if it was a scandal or not but people didn't realize that when they set up
these home cameras that they were unencrypted and available for anybody to watch online i mean that's
how ring cameras work ring cameras are always storing your your video data on a cloud server
which i find weird and if i'm not wrong and i don't have one, so I'm not an expert,
but like you can access it for 30 days or something,
but actually it's stored on the cloud infinitely, which means that Amazon has access
to this camera outside your home.
Like weird to me.
I know they're really convenient.
Like that's a home security one.
They can tell you if someone steals a package or whatever.
Like there is a use for that,
that I find more justified than just like the speakers
that like you asked to play music.
But again, these are all calculated risks that like people before us didn't have to think about. You have a cell, you have a smartphone. Do you have like all the data of voice stuff shut
shut off? I have it as, as restricted as I can. Uh, I'm sure I'm not perfect. And the other thing
is like, I'm a full on Luddite. Like I, I'm so scared of technology that in some ways it's,
it's bad because I don't trust it, but also i don't know enough about it probably to defend myself but it's just always seemed like a risk to me but like you
you love this stuff yeah i never used it till i moved in with this guy tp over here he had one
set up at the house in the early days and you were like computer turn the lights to 60 make them
green and it was awesome and i was like whoa i could play any song at any moment just by yelling
it out this is changing my life yeah it used. We used to have the light setup where you could just say device, set lights.
Yeah.
Like you said, 60%, you know, crimson.
And then it would.
Yeah.
And that's super cool.
But it's the music for me.
Being able to just yell out, play this song, and then all of a sudden it starts playing is like, wow.
Yeah, we don't have those devices here anymore.
Good.
I still have one.
I could always shut it down, but damn, that thing is convenient.
Anthony, do you use these?
I'm actually anti-security cameras at work, which I fight with my own staff over.
They want to put security cameras in the building.
And we got, I don't know how many buildings now, seven or eight buildings.
And I think it's disrespectful to people to be monitoring people all the time.
People don't like being monitored.
Do you use them on the outside?
I think, you know, they fought with me.
I think I finally let them put them in on the outside.
But, you know, I wouldn't put, you know, and believe it, we had robbery situations,
people stealing stuff.
This is when we first got started, you know.
People would steal computers and stuff.
I still wouldn't put in the cameras.
I just, I'd rather deal with the robbery than the invasion of privacy.
That's cool.
I wonder when I go into the bathroom sometimes, I'm like, is there a camera in here?
Just random bathrooms.
Actually, I've never thought about that, right?
Would it bother you if there was a camera?
No, it's exciting.
Oh, yeah, it would be terrifying.
I'm like...
Depends on what it's looking at.
You see those videos of people finding them
in their Airbnbs and stuff
and all kinds of weird places.
Behind holes in the door.
Yeah.
And if you're the Airbnb homer,
probably similar arguments that your staff make.
Like you could be like,
well, I just wanted to make sure
that if something were damaged,
I could go back and figure out what happened.
But also like actually probably you're using them
for very creepy reasons.
Have you had an Airbnb experience like that?
No, I haven't.
But also really freaks me out.
I feel like maybe I don't check carefully enough.
I bet all of them have cameras in them.
I had an Airbnb with all of them.
You had a camera, a secret camera in one?
In my Airbnb? I don't know. That's a good question.
Do we have a doggy camera? I don't know if it
might be there. Yeah, I don't know. I wasn't paying
attention to it. The one you guys were renting
out? Yeah, we had a nice house in Mexico.
Did you have to disclose that you had a camera?
I wasn't.
My girlfriend was in charge of that, so I didn't do that. You would think they would have to disclose that you had a camera? I wasn't. My girlfriend was in charge of that, so I didn't do that.
You would think they would have to disclose there is a camera here, just so you know.
But then all of a sudden they're giving away their secret camera position in case you want to do something illegal and you want to go avoid the camera.
So they're like, kind of defeats the purpose of the camera if you know where the camera's at.
But maybe not quite.
But it seems highly unethical to,
but if it's their property,
you're allowed to record on your property.
I think you have to tell people you're recording them.
Yeah.
Unless you're being a real creep,
then you don't care about the rules.
Well,
not as illegal.
I mean,
Airbnb is kind of crazy as it is.
All of these,
what's that one where you can rent cars?
You ever see that one?
Toro? Dude, how crazy is that how's it work so you go in the app you find a car you click rent and then when you show up you walk up in the cars there and they tell you where the key is at you drive
the car around and you park it there and you leave it's crazy yeah i think tesla's gonna do
that but it's gonna just come to your door dude Dude, we are. Self-driving to your house. I don't think people realize how close we are to full self-driving.
It's more of a human cultural issue, not a technological one.
So I got a Honda, gas-powered vehicle, and it drives itself on the highway.
It has lane assist and cruise control, which means you turn it on and it drives itself on the highway.
Tesla has the, it can actually stop at stop signs and make turns and all that stuff.
But the Honda has the rudimentary self-driving. So I go on the highway and it's taken care of.
Maybe that's only, what, 10% of driving or something, turns and whatever on a highway.
But with all the stuff that I'm seeing now with cars that are coming out they all got the internal gps and computers they they built in they cars have been
able to be remotely controlled for for the past decade plus there were those famous guys who
hacked a couple cars and they could remote control your car and people were like well how does the
steering wheel turn and it's like it's motorized. It's already, they found a way to hack a car and drive it and even accelerate and everything. How is that possible? Unless these things are capable
of self-driving. They've been. The only thing that I think is holding us back is cultural.
People aren't ready for the mass sweeping of self-driving cars. It has to be rolled out
gradually. So we're going to start seeing more and more. We've already seen California and Texas. You've got those cars, the weird things all over
them and they drive themselves and you order one and it pulls up. There's nobody in it. You sit
down, it drives you. Nobody driving it. We're, I don't know, five, 10 years away from that.
And the idea is no one will own a car. All cars will be self-driving electric. They will charge
themselves when they're not being used and then swap out.
And then when you need a car, you'll call it and it'll come and pick you up and drive.
There'll never be traffic again.
All the cars can move in perfect synchronization so that you never have to worry about stop and go traffic.
That's what they're trying to build.
I don't know how you guys feel about it.
I get mixed feelings about the rental culture.
Like, I still own my music for the last, I'm 45 years old. Like I've had,
I'm used to buying CDs and tapes and like owning it so that if the power goes out,
I can still play my music in the house. I don't like Spotify. I mean, it's a cool company,
but I don't subscribe to Amazon music. I just get what's free. Like, I don't like the idea
that I wouldn't own it. So like, same with my car for, I went a while where I didn't own a car
and I just Ubered everywhere and it was super cheap.
Like I saved so much money because I didn't travel that much, but it does feel nice to
own a vehicle and to have access to it.
And I don't have to rely on like a grid to get ahold of a vehicle.
I don't know.
It seems like a safety.
Depends where you live.
Yeah.
It was in the, I was in LA when I was, when I was Ubering a lot.
Yeah.
And there's other options there.
Also, there was an abundance of Ubers.
But if you're in like rural America.
It's $130 to get an Uber to D.C. from where I live.
It's crazy.
It costs a plane ticket to get to the airport to take a flight.
It's nuts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When we were thinking about places to do the show, it doesn't matter where you go.
No matter where you set up, it's a flight to an airport and an hour drive.
You go to New York City.
It's like, no, no, no, you're going to Brooklyn.
Yeah, it's an hour drive.
You're going to be going four miles, and it's going to take you an hour.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And then I'm like, okay, so we'll go out to the D.C. area.
It's an hour drive from the airport.
But it's an hour drive at 65, 70 miles an hour.
So.
Do you guys do the music rental stuff?
Or do you buy and own your own music these days?
I don't.
I just go on Pandora and press play.
So you don't own like physical CDs or tapes?
No, I got records.
We got vinyl.
We got vinyl downstairs here.
It needs to be set up.
Oh, awesome.
Yeah, that's fun.
The rule I wanted to have for the park is that for music,
you have to put on a full record and let it play through and then flip it so we don't
do this stupid select Pandora
stuff but no one set up
the speaker system yet. Is it going to skip with all
these people bouncing around? No because
it's in a different room
and then the wires go out of the room.
Yeah there's something about playing out. We bought
a 1990s sound system
with a cassette, radio, CD player
and record player.
Yeah, we're going to take it old school.
I'm one of the people that
still put custom sound systems
in my car. How does that work?
They rip out all the regular speakers
and put in really expensive speakers
and subwoofers and all that.
The guys that drive down the block with the thing
the subs pumping and all that.
And then, you know, the sound's the best with then, you know, it sounds the best with CDs.
So, yeah, I still buy CDs.
That's what I've heard, that CDs and vinyl sound better than streaming.
Yeah, I haven't gotten into vinyl, but, you know, in the car, the CDs sound best.
So, yeah, I'm still putting CDs in my car.
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Do you hear that a lot?
Oh yeah
Believe it or not
You know I was in
When I first moved to
Mexico I was with my
Girlfriend and we went
To Venezuela
And we went to
Six Flags in Mexico
And I went on a ride
With her and her mom
Was waiting
She didn't really know
Anything about me
And they had these
Sticker Mule shirts on
Somebody stopped her
And said Sticker Mule how do You have that her and said, Sticker Mule, how do you have that shirt?
You know, in Spanish, they said.
And she said to her daughter, she said, who the heck's your boyfriend?
This person stopped me in the middle of Mexico.
So, yeah.
So the brand got stuck.
I mean, that's why, you know, when I said I support Trump, you know, people didn't know me.
But, you know, the brand's like, but you. I mean, that's why, you know, when I said I support Trump, you know, people didn't know me, but, you know, the brand's very well known.
We got 5 million or so customers, which is, you know, not a small number of customers.
I feel like that's kind of the best of both worlds.
Like your company's doing really well, but also you have a level of like.
Yeah, you know, I stayed low profile except for this.
You know, I just got, you know, I thought this is, you know, you only live once and it's like, this is a situation that, you know, if we don't get Trump in and this situation doesn't get fixed, you know, I don't know.
I'd like to see him in.
I'd like to see his situation fixed.
So I decided to speak up and do stuff like this, which maybe you guys can tell, maybe you can't.
This isn't, you know, something I'm practiced with, but it's what it is.
Here we go.
We got voice of the people says, first, the J6 committee uses your footage and you say something.
Then they do it again.
You hit him with a lawsuit and now you're Russian propaganda. Remember
that NGO list that had Tara Reid
on it as well as you, Russiagate2.
I don't know what that NGO list was.
What was that?
Yeah, Raskin played my clip out of context
and was lying about me. And it's funny because
he represents
some of our employees
live in his district is these it's just
nuts man tara reed got run through i don't know what her story is exactly but she was making
claims about like joe biden doing sexual assault against her back in the day and then fled to
russia like yeah geez he was i think it was while he was running for president when she started
making the allegations all right polly pure, today's my birthday. Happy birthday, Polly.
Happy to hear.
Happy birthday.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, for your Trump sit down, you should bring someone who is blue collar, someone who's a veteran, new to politics.
Anyone like that in your company?
Ian.
Very blue collar.
Yeah.
Oh, I don't know.
Maybe Raymond.
I was saying that we should do a culture war sit down with Donald Trump.
And I don't know if I want to do a
one-on-one sit down with him though
because I feel like
a lot of those sit downs just turn
into general life discussion stuff.
And that's been done.
If we're going to do two hours, I want it to be more substantive
than that. And so I kind of feel like
I could go for an hour with him talking high
level issues and then it would slowly start tapering down to like tell me about your business like how did you do
these things and so one of your kids is your favorite yeah and like we all want to know about
i mean i do have a lot of questions about his business like how did you turn a million dollars
into two two to four or five billion dollars and that's crazy you know that'd be interesting to
like hear him basically talk about how how he got that loan and how he made it work and all that stuff.
But I was thinking, like, it'd be good to have someone else so we could have, you know, two different angles to the conversation.
With Donald Trump?
Yeah.
Yeah, we should.
I'll do that for sure.
We've got to talk graphene.
Oh, you're nominating yourself.
100%.
Yeah.
That's why I'm here, bro.
My man.
Yeah. There were some people saying that they would,
they would love to see Ian sit down with Trump because Trump would be,
you know,
his reaction would be interesting.
Is this guy real for the first 20 minutes?
And then he'd be like,
Oh,
he's cool.
This guy's cool as hell.
Robert Pointer says convenient that this DOJ release comes out to undermine
alt media voices ahead of the election.
Psy op anyone.
F what is it?
Is that an F?
F these games,
man.
It is.
When we were talking about it before, and I had a friend reject me and be like, is this
about Tenet when the release came out?
But the thing is, when I think about Tenet Media, I actually don't think about culture.
I think about Taylor Hansen's reporting on like the pride parades and like all of that
stuff, which I don't think of as being like explicitly pro-Russia.
It's not about Russia at all.
I know.
So it just like, it is weird that Tenet,
which has had these viral moments
with this specific niche of reporting,
is now what part of this anti,
like it's just getting linked to Russia,
which is a democratic way of being like,
we don't want to hear from you anymore.
It's weird.
That's basically what they're saying.
I mean, I can say for the most part,
like Benny Johnson's show, it's American politics.
The argument is that American political opinions are disinformation or pro-Russia.
That's it.
It could be a psyop within a psyop.
It just crossed my mind.
Like it could be someone who wants to discredit people that get involved with the company and they don't even care about the politics.
Who knows?
I don't know
discourage people from sharing their clips and all i know is i want to make sure everybody knows that
culture war uh will continue to exist no matter what because it was a licensing agreement so the
show existed before it'll it's nothing's changing literally nothing it will be the exact same show
it's always been and we'll continue to advance whatever it is we are advancing and it's totally
independent and whatever so whatever that means i don't know i like the way but but i suppose the argument
they're making is still coming on the show right yeah if we can get putin and kamala harris together
for an interview that'd be so cool the i'm joking argument i think they're making is that they
the deals they did with the likes of me rubenen, and Benny were to build up an audience that they
could then use to make their own content. So not that we were producing anything for their,
not that we specifically were producing anything for Russian interests, but that they needed a way
to build up an audience. And so that's the only thing I guess that makes sense. Sure. But it doesn't
matter in this political landscape, the media is just going to say Russian propaganda or whatever garbage
because they don't, you know, they're not smart people.
Anyway,
let's grab some more superchats.
Huron
Bearcat says, apparently the
Waltz family is backing Trump. That's
right. We talked about it. That's
pretty bad news. I like
that they distinguish themselves as the Nebraska
Waltzes. They're like, not like that Minnesota guy.
Van E says that the timing is crazy.
Retaliation for Kamala.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, whatever it is they're doing, they've been doing for a long time.
Some people suggested it's only September.
A story like this should come out later, closer to the election.
So whatever.
It is funny, though, because as for the kamala thing clay
travis pointed out they this this clip that they they posted where they accused me of advocating
for what is tantamount to genocide which is insane and a lie uh it's from june june 1st or may 31st
and he's like why would they be sitting on this for so long only to put it out now which was that
which one was that rumor was on yeahomer was on. Yeah, you pulled that
because the conversation went sideways?
Because she advocated for the death penalty.
Yeah, that's the opposite of it.
And then we were like, nope.
I know.
And the context of it was me saying,
if you want to charge Democrats,
you need real evidence, real investigations.
So we have to make sure,
we have to make sure
that Trump brings on a good AG.
Like the gist of what I'm trying to
say is there are a lot of people who want political, political retaliation. I don't.
I want people, I want like legitimate investigations to be proven to the American
people in a trial when bad things happen. But then they accuse me of saying that I,
they literally said that I, part of my pride that I, Trump, they said, Tim pool's a Trump operative
and his project 2025 plan is to give
trump unchecked legal authority to jail and execute anyone who doesn't support him if he wins
right which i'm like feverishly opposed to that penalty and then you just have to sue because
otherwise it it's the kind of thing that can make people can keep doing over and over again if you
don't nip it in the bud it's not it's in the bud? There is no more an extreme thing you can accuse a person of saying
or advocating for or views they're holding.
Yeah, for sure.
To advocate that an individual wants a tyrannical authoritarian dictatorship
to execute half the population is psychotic.
Yeah.
But I don't know if it's retaliation i mean there's
two different things it is what it is we'll see where it goes all right quizby joe says moon lord
what is your newest wisdom um stream online make internet videos go live communicate with the
community man there's people waiting to listen and become part of it and inspire them to do the same. Super fun. What have we here? Larch says, I don't want to hear about the word.
I want to hear a word about FARA until APAC registers under it.
I don't think the DOJ is going to make them, but it's an interesting point for sure.
Kaysen Womble says, I'm wondering when liberal will stop being a political label and start being an insult for someone who is ignorant.
Same as young people using gay to refer to something as lame or how language changes.
I'm kind of waiting for liberal to become used normal again.
Just use liberal as a slang term for stupid or like, you know, something or unwanted.
Like, you know, do you want to go eat McDonald's?
Ooh, liberal.
No way.
Maybe.
But it doesn't just mean like I'm like I'm open to change.
Like, no, that's if I'm conservative, I'm more about like maintaining the status quo.
If I'm liberal, I'm open to altering the system more.
No.
What does it mean?
I'll take liberty with that.
Liberal.
So let's begin here.
Liberal and conservative in modern context just means left and right. It means political tribe.
They're meaningless terms. It's like saying the Tigers versus the Bears. That's it.
That's it. You know, like liberal is supposed to refer to someone of classical liberal orientation.
There's a variety of schools of ideology that exist within liberalism, but it's typically like
the live and let live mentality. Okay, well, liberals today, and I'm using the modern context, don't exist in
the live and let live world. They cancel people. The activists demand people lose their job. They
protest all day and night. They're not liberal. They're authoritarian. So liberals would fall
on the libertarian center left spectrum for the most part. You could be a classical liberal,
which is slightly right of center,
or a social and traditional liberal,
which are slightly left of center.
However, liberal today, you're basically saying like
the bears versus the cowboys.
Yeah, because I've heard people
that would consider themselves liberal be like,
well, conservatives are evil.
I'm like, what does this hell even mean anymore?
It's so, this derogatory slang is just unnecessary.
Conservative is supposed to refer to someone who's supporting traditional values. That's it. But they don't mean that
Donald Trump is pro gay marriage and he's for he's for reasonable abortion. That's that's he's
not it's not conservative. He's moderate and liberals. It's not live and let live when you're
advocating for abortion to nine months.
That's just I don't even know what you'd call that.
So liberal and concerned, they don't mean nothing.
They don't mean nothing.
Let's go.
What have we here?
Ginger McIsaac says they say comrade Kamala worked at McDonald's.
Rumor has it she actually worked at Panda Express.
Ha ha.
I like Panda Express, but I wish they had more options that weren't just deep fried wads of sugar.
Yeah.
That's because you're a hater and you don't appreciate the culture they offer us.
Panda Express is dessert.
Like when you go in there and you order a double orange chicken with fried rice, you're ordering dessert.
It's delicious.
Smothered in orange sugar.
This is just big anti-carb energy trying to oppress us all.
You sound like an addict, Hannah Clare.
Hey, look, you want to eat some white rice with some steamed chicken?
Yeah.
That's great.
You want to eat breaded, deep-fried chicken dipped in sugar syrup and rolled around in it,
and then a big bowl of fried rice?
Still, go ahead, but that's a lot of sugar.
I love sugar. I don't know. Yeah. I'm big into glucose. Still, go ahead, but that's a lot of sugar. I love sugar.
I'm big into glucose.
Yeah, I love that stuff.
Ian's on a glucogenic diet.
Is that true?
I don't know.
I just had a bunch of coconut water.
I just love having extra glucose.
It means that you derive the majority of your calories from sugar.
That's unfortunate.
I want to get it from fat.
That would be called ketogenic.
Right.
Where your body breaks down fats into ketone bodies.
Yeah.
You just got to eat the fat first, you have to not eat sugar. Yeah. And also watch out for vegetable
oils apparently because it'll cause the mitochondria to start eating the sugar out of your
bloodstream instead of the fat. This is my other crusade is, you know, most American food is not
food. Yeah. Well, that haven't left America. Don't, don don't realize this but uh yeah what's the food like in mexico healthy you know it's mostly freshly cooked stuff you know healthy um home
cooking i go there i lose weight like it like it's nothing oh yeah yeah and uh you know people
don't live that that don't like exit america don't realize you know most of what we eat is
not food and it's it's not it's not food man no it's due
to regulations too you know we effectively killed off people don't know what they're missing out on
you know that's like i can go to mexico there's food carts all over the place because they're
not regulated you know the downside there's always a trade-off between safety and you know freedom
right and it's like we're so concerned about safety here like food's regulated to kingdom
come and you know you only got chains because people want safety they They don't want to get—they're terrified of food poisoning.
But, you know, in Mexico, it's all freshly cooked food.
Maybe you get food poisoning once a year, but it's a lot healthier overall, and the food's delicious.
And there's just—yeah, freshly cooked everything.
Freshly cooked grilled chicken, freshly cooked grilled steak, whatever.
Just right on the street, right in a restaurant.
I hear this all the time from people that when they come to America, they'll eat the same food.
Like, what do they normally eat?
They'll get like a steak and some rice,
or they'll have some chicken with corn or whatever.
But in America, they gain weight like crazy no matter what.
Oh, it's unbelievable.
And then they say, I leave the country and I go home,
and the weight just goes off.
I lose 10, 20 pounds like nothing in Mexico.
Yeah, well, I'm on the topic of Mexico.
People don't know, like, Mexico's a great country.
People don't understand that either.
America marks itself so well. Everyone thinks
nothing could be better than here, but
people, they're blown away when they go to Mexico,
how good it is there. And another thing people
don't realize is the amount of migration from
America to Mexico in the last four years,
it's through the roof. Like, millions.
I live in Mexico City, and
it's through the roof. Like, so many Americans
are going to live there. And when I first got
there, I was trying to convince my friends to come visit.
Nobody wanted to come visit.
They thought it was like the worst place in the world.
And they got there and they're walking around.
They got malls better than our malls,
restaurants better than our restaurants.
You can go to a $100 a person steakhouse
or you can get $2 tacos on the street that are cooked fresh.
It's an incredible place.
It's an incredible place.
And everyone thinks it's all sepia toned.
Because every movie ever, when they go to Mexico,
they use sepia tone. Yeah. And then you go to Mexico City and it's all sepia-toned because every movie ever, when they go to Mexico, they use sepia-tone.
Yeah.
And then you go to Mexico City, and it's actually cool, and it's elevated and very colorful and like a normal city.
They got Buffalo Wild Wings.
Isn't that where the capital of the Aztecs was?
Tutuacan, is that right?
I don't know.
I wrote about this in my Trump endorsement.
You know, people are like the immigration stuff.
It's very anti-happiness because, like, we do such a good job of marketing in America.
And I lived in Mexico for six years.
I talked to so many people over there.
They all want to get out of Mexico and come to America because they don't know what America is like.
They think it's so great here.
It must be even better in America.
And I tell them, well, I'm like, you don't realize what, you know, what you guys got here.
I mean, you guys, and people come.
They leave their families.
They ask for asylum.
They get separated.
You know, it's tragic.
But, you know, America does a great job of marketing itself.
And I guess Mexico doesn't have the same marketing budget to market itself.
But since I moved there, you know, six years ago, I live part-time there.
Since I moved there part-time six years ago, I've been telling everybody about how great it is.
And all of a sudden, millions of people are coming.
So I don't know if I'm their one-man marketing department or not.
But, yeah, Mexico doesn't have the marketing budget we do.
We got a great marketing budget, but we're missing out on a lot of stuff that could be
better here.
You know, we're fighting over crazy political things.
We should be fighting over food that tastes delicious and doesn't make us fat.
Yep.
All right.
Sea Warrior says, why pull Culture War based on an allegation from a weaponized agency?
Have you already performed due diligence?
We're not pulling it.
What do you mean?
The show, there's a channel called The Culture War, youtube.com slash TimCast.
It's my first YouTube channel.
It's where the show was originally.
Culture Tenet purchased a license to have the broadcast on their channel.
Pending anything, I can just broadcast it on my channel.
The show will exist as it already does.
Nothing's changing.
So pending what happens, whatever this indictment is, I have no idea, but the show is literally not changing.
It's going to keep happening exactly as it is and always has been. And we've got a bunch of
great shows lined up. This Friday on The Culture War, we've got John Devaney, Benyam Capple,
and Shane Cashman.
And what do we have coming up later on?
We have a,
I don't know what else we have on the list,
but we've got a mob boss coming on the show.
I'm really excited for that one.
Sounds awesome.
Yeah.
And he might be a current mob boss.
They say former,
but you know,
he might be a,
he might be a current one.
He's in the mob,
always in the mob kind of thing.
Who knows?
I don't know.
We're going to hear what he has to say.
Cause I want,
cause I,
you know,
I,
I,
I,
we set the show up because, uh, you ever see a bronx tale no you ever
see it yes that scene where the bikers come in and they disrespect the bar so i'll lay it out
because i don't know if people don't know the scene but it's really great basically the uh
mob boss here's a ruckus comes to the bar and he's like what's the problem these bikers are very loud
bartenders like they can't come in here not dressed properly.
One biker just looks at him and says, look, man, we just want a beer, you know,
and then we'll be on our way.
And he goes, spoken like a gentleman, give them their beers.
And then gives them the beers.
And then the bikers take the beers, shake them up,
and spray the bartender down and start laughing.
Then he goes, okay, now you guys got to leave.
And then the dude turns around and says, like, F you.
We're staying.
So then he walks over, closes the bar door, locks it and then goes, now you can't leave.
And then the bikers all look at each other.
Then the door, the back door busts open and a bunch of a bunch of the boys come in with guns and bats, such as beating the crap out of the bikers. And, you know, the point with that scene is that
many people make the argument a city is better under control of local organized crime, which
has an incentive to enrich themselves without the community becoming too damaged. Whereas right now
we're witnessing external gangs coming in, doing whatever they want, and there is no organized
system. So if you call the police the largest mafia people, when I was growing up,
people were like, the police are just the largest mafia in the country or whatever. Okay, well,
we don't got those now because you look at these roving bands that loot department stores and
steal everything. So the question then is, what if there actually was a mafia? And they were like,
don't come and loot the stores that are paying us protection money. Would things be better off?
So I was like an interesting conversation around what that would look like. I think they would be because it's like lawful evil is better than chaotic evil.
If you got to live in that society anyway, chaotic evil is where people eat each other
on the street and no one can stop them. But imagine, you know, the mob boss,
he doesn't go around beating and injuring people. He goes to your store and says, look,
you got to pay because we're going to make sure nobody comes and destroys everything.
And if you don't pay and nobody else pays, then these gangs are going to come and they're
going to destroy everything.
You'd be like, okay.
And that's it.
That's the worst of it.
I wouldn't call that evil.
I don't know.
Extortion.
I mean, it's probably evil, but it's lawful.
So when the police do.
Or neutral at the very end.
So when the police come and say, pay the tax man because we are here to protect your business.
And if you don't pay, no one else will pay.
Hopefully they're good.
Yeah, hopefully.
No, it's still evil then.
It's still kind of extortion.
Call it evil.
I'm just saying, like, it's not so easy to determine what is,
what is good or evil. I would, I would argue that could just be considered neutral.
You know, roving gangs are coming and destroying everyone's businesses and ruining the town.
So guys, a bunch of guys get together and say, if we're going to do this, we need your support and everyone's got to pay. Otherwise we're not going to pick and choose who gets protected.
So, you know, the question is, is the mafia committing crimes and hurting people?
Then they're evil.
But if it's literally just like it's real protection, there's a question about whether it's evil or not.
I think it'll be fun.
Anyway, let's grab some more superchats.
What have we here?
Kolesnikov, ooh, good name, says U.S. dollar is stronger than ever and the southern border is secure.
Anything else is Russian disinformation campaign. And you are the willing participant that must go to jail for
espionage. Indeed, that's right. No one ever better criticized the economy or the southern border.
I also wanted to add there is no war in Ba Sing Se. That's right. There is no war.
What have we here?
A lad who ate four dozen eggs.
That's too many.
YouTube deleted my super chat, so I'll donate again.
A Waltz's family endorsed Trump.
Let's go.
Yeah.
And then Trump thanked him for it.
Apparently Trump wants to meet with him.
That'd be funny.
Michael Beacon says, thanks, Anthony, for taking a stand for sane political discourse. I'll definitely be using Sticker Mule for my next crowdfund for my comic, Seven Legions, and next time I need hot sauce.
A lot of people were saying it was profound how you were explaining how people can be intimidated by mail-in voting.
I'd never thought of that before, the intimidation factor of someone that you know being like, have you filled your thing out for?
It's out.
I don't know why no one else talks about this issue.
But hopefully people hear this and people start realizing this is the big problem with it.
We talked about, too, like parents, if they've got 18 to 20-year-old kids who still live at home,
they come in and the mom goes, fill out your ballots and vote for the Democrat.
And the kid's like, sure, whatever.
Exactly.
And now that kid would never have gone to vote.
But the mail-in
vote is right there and they'll get it and that kid doesn't know what they're voting for doesn't
care what they're voting for and then they're wondering why it is in california they're giving
out 150 000 loans to non-citizens to illegal immigrants and gen z can't get a house i hope
everyone in gen z hears that and help you share with everyone in gen z you can't buy a house you
can't afford a house you can't find a good good job, and California is giving $150,000
to illegal immigrants to own homes.
Is that effective?
That's an effective loan program now?
So I don't know if Newsom signed it yet,
but Nancy Pelosi effectively endorsed it,
saying, well, it's for the American dream for everybody.
Everybody should own a home.
And it's like, okay, well, let's start with Gen Z first.
Let's do triage.
I saw her on Bill Maher, yeah,
and he's like, they're not citizens.
She's like, well, they should be.
She's like, I want to move them to document.
It's only a matter of time, she says.
Yep.
Seeking the Kingdom says,
tell Constantino I love his hot sauce
and the Russell Brand stickers were dope.
Right on.
What have we here?
John Eden says,
how did the DOJ find out about any of this?
And why were they investigating Tenet in the first place?
Something smells fishy.
That is interesting.
It's a good question.
What would have prompted them to begin an investigation of Tenet Media in the first place?
It's a good question.
Generally, I think that they are monitoring anyone affiliated with RT really intensely because they hate RT.
But if you read the indictment, the crazy thing is it looks like great efforts were taken to obfuscate the source of revenue.
I suppose, though, if these people were actively involved, they knew who they were and they knew they were lying about their identities, then nothing.
You're not obfuscating anything.
It's like they know who you are.
So, you know, I don't know.
We'll see.
I don't know what's true.
Indictments, even on the DOJ website,
these are not proven true.
These are allegations,
and there still has to be, you know,
a criminal hearing or whatever it may be.
But the other interesting thing
is that they're only going after the Russians.
No one else involved.
So, I have no idea.
I don't know.
But Culture War will be live this Friday.
YouTube.com slash Timcast. It'll be fun. Just because I'm free, says the DOJ and Biden
administration are accusing Russia of influence. I'll just repeat what Obama said. The 1980s called
and they want their policies back. The Moon guy says the Soviet Union in the 50s and 60s ran
propaganda studies in the news on their citizens,
and they found it only takes three weeks for people to believe a lie.
Indeed.
And then it becomes history.
It becomes sustained fact.
And then people say, well, everybody knows about X.
Everybody knows this thing happened.
All right.
Sean H. says, shut up, Ian.
He literally said, I'm not going to be a dictator, but they call him a liar no matter what he says.
Every detractor says he lies, but never say what the lies are.
I was actually shutting up.
I was trying to understand that total in total.
But I don't know what it was in reference to.
That people say Trump's a liar, but they never reference what he's lying about.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know. He said everyone says he reference what he's lying about. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
He said everyone says he's a, I don't know.
Anyway, okay.
You know, I can only say this.
Off the top of my head right now, I can't think of any immediate lies from Trump.
I know in the past he's had silly ones where it's like, you know, I don't know,
the size of, like, he's accused of lying about the square footage of his house, the size of the crowd. I think he said he had the largest crowd size ever
once when he didn't. Yeah, maybe though, but that's not specific enough because, uh,
there was a story where Trump said with the largest audience and combined live audience and
in person, that's true. But they argued, he's talking about the people in front of him, which
would not be true. And it's just like, but you know,
I don't think Trump's a liar,
but like everybody lies.
Like literally everybody lies.
Just ask Tim Walsh.
Right.
Now that guy's a liar,
but I can tell you this in the past,
there were several stories that we talked about.
We're like,
well,
Trump lied about this.
Like that's not true.
But as of recent,
off the top of my head,
I couldn't think of anything.
Could you imagine?
I actually think he's done a great job improving his behavior and his attitude.
And he's still funny and all that.
So he's doing pretty well.
Could you imagine if a politician gets caught in a lie and he just is like,
everybody lies.
I'm just like you guys.
Everybody lies.
I mean, like the most hilarious defense.
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shout anything out? Right now?
I don't know. Check out Sticker Mule. Somebody
keep writing Tim to set up a store until he decides
to do one. Well, someone will hear all.. Check out Sticker Mule. Somebody keep writing Tim to set up a store until he decides to do one.
Well, someone will hear all that.
Tim Cass Sticker Mule store.
Right.
Stickermule.com front slash Tim Pool.
Right.
We need that URL.
Stickermule.com.
Can people follow you anywhere?
Me?
I'm on Twitter, I guess.
Right.
X.
Yeah.
AC 132.
But like I said, I'm a, what's the word?
I don't know how to pronounce it. It starts with an L and ends with an E, Luddite.
Luddite.
But, yeah, I don't really use – I mean, I'm starting to use social media.
I kept the whole company off social media, and I kept us off the Internet in general.
I don't know.
Well, I guess we had a website.
How did you guys get – well, this is a whole other conversation,
but you got so popular and successful.
Yeah, the social media doesn't really do – it's not like a necessity for companies to be big.
It's not really a necessity at all.
People think it is, but I could delete all the social stuff tomorrow
and our sales would probably go up.
Well, hopefully you won't because at Sticker Mule is where you'll find them on Twitter.
Oh, and just for – we're doing more stuff with Ricky Berwick next week,
so follow us on Twitter.
Wait, it's called X now.
Follow us on X.
We're blocked by Elon on X maybe because I keep calling it Twitter.
And also because in Mexico, I should not say this, but because in Mexico they pronounce it Ellen,
and I, by mistake, say it that way.
And I'm like, maybe he heard me call him Ellen and he got mad and blocked us.
I don't know.
Like you guys are dark?
You guys are like shadow banned or something?
No, like Sticker Mule is blocked by Elon, so I'm just going to.
Oh, he blocked you personally.
I want an explanation on this.
It was like a week after he wrote, I'm unblocking everyone.
And then he just like... Except for Sticker Mule.
I did not like the sticker guy. Maybe it's a parody account.
Check it out. Maybe it's not his... Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know. He does not like stickers.
Maybe he had a childhood trauma. I don't know. I shouldn't make...
Something happened with stickers. He doesn't like that he had the hot sauce
and it made him, I don't know, have diarrhea.
I don't know. Maybe.
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