Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1114 Trump Rally Goers Suffer Mysterious Injuries, Chemical Attack Investigated w/Matt Walsh

Episode Date: September 20, 2024

Tim, Hannah Claire, & Mary are joined by Matt Walsh to discuss reports that Trump supporters may have suffered a chemical attack during a Trump rally in Arizona, Homeland Security revealing that there are five known assassination teams targeting Trump, White Dudes for Harris posting a hilariously cringe ad, and Matt Walsh discussing the massive success of his new film "Am I Racist." Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere)  Hannah Claire @hannahclaireb (everywhere) Mary @PopCultureCrisis   Guests: Matt Walsh | AmIRacist.com Benyam Capel @benyam_capel (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mysterious symptoms, eye injuries, runny noses. This story's pretty crazy. Earlier in the morning, I covered this on my morning show, that there were about six people suffering these injuries after attending a Trump rally. The Blaze is now reporting it's up to around 20 individuals who have these mysterious symptoms, and they're investigating a possible chemical attack.

One woman said that after attending the rally, her eyes became irritated. She went to the hospital, and they said that, have you been sprayed by something? Because it looks like this might be a chemical spray of some sort. Now, some people speculated that could be UV lights. They were not properly installed or something happened. We don't know for sure, but we will be talking about that. Plus, we got some funny stories where the Fed chair admits that illegal immigration is causing high unemployment. Ha ha. And then we're going to talk about cultural endeavors.

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weekend of uh release with the film and feeling good. We're picking up momentum and we've got word of mouth, which we're a little tiny underdog story with our film up against the big guys. So it's a word of mouth operation and I'm feeling pretty good about it. So we got your producer here from the movie as well, Ben Capel.

How you guys doing? And you were paid reparations. Yeah, yeah. About $30. So I'm still looking to make up that shortfall. If you guys have any cash on you, I would appreciate it. Matt doesn't pay very well. So... Well, I paid him

reparations also in that scene, if you saw, but I took mine back when the cameras turned off. Matt Walsh, the Indian giver. What did you spend your reparations on? So I gave five of it to our lovely producer, Sean Hampton, works on the film, produces Matt's show, amazing guy. Gave five of it to the brilliant director, Justin Folk, and I have $20 of it hanging in my office at home.

You're hanging it up? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was considering spending it, but I just felt like Judas spending the 30 shekels of silver. It's too big. You could be like, can you autograph it it up? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was considering spending it, but I just felt like, you know, Judas, you know, spending, you know, the 30 shekels of silver.

It's too bad. You could be like, can you autograph it for me? It's going to be hanging in the Smithsonian one of these days. Right, right on. Well guys, it's going to be a blast.

Thanks so much for hanging out. We got Mary Morgan hanging out. Hi everyone. Happy to be back. My name is Mary. I'm on pop culture crisis here at Tim cast. We're a deeply unserious show, but I'm always happy to be invited on the serious show here. There you go. Yeah, very serious.

Hannah Clare's hanging out, of course. I'm Hannah Clare Bremel. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. That's Scanner News. I'm also happy to co-host. I'm happy everyone's in the room tonight. Let's get started. Before all the fun, we're going to be serious because we got this crazy story from The Blaze. Mysterious symptoms reportedly strike about 20 attendees of Trump rally campaign investigating possible chemical attack. They say attendees at a Trump rally in Tucson, Arizona, reportedly experienced mysterious symptoms suspected of being a chemical attack.

The incident was reported in the independent news outlet, the Arizona Globe. The report says that about 20 people in the Latinos for Trump group who appeared on stage experienced the symptoms shortly after the rally ended. Alarmingly, the group appeared on the side of the stage where former President Donald Trump made his entry to the rally. Among the symptoms of the affected members reported to the Arizona Globe were blurred vision, facial swelling, severe eye pain, which appeared about 30 minutes after the rally ended. Some self-treated with milk before seeking treatment at a hospital. Another said his face turned red and experienced peeling.

When they went to the hospital, they were told by staff that others from the rally were there seeking treatment. One person was told by a doctor that she was suffering from a chemical burn. After the doctor performed a dye test, that person still suffered from light sensitivity and blurry vision days later. Christy Kelly, the reporter who broke the story at the Amazon Globe, gave an exclusive comment to The Blaze providing more detail, saying, I personally spoke to at least eight Latino Trump supporters who were affected at the Tucson rally. They are passionate patriots deeply concerned about President Trump's continued well-being and their own recovery and are demanding a thorough investigation into what happened at the event. The injuries they experienced vary, but the people I spoke to all sought medical treatment afterward. I have reviewed two medical reports that confirm these injuries and the attendees are united

in their desire for accountability from the venue. Despite their personal health struggles, their focus remains on supporting former President Donald Trump. Now, right away, I'll just say this. I think the most I have Trump supporters are going to suspect there was some foul play. Someone's trying to target Donald Trump. We're looking at two assassination attempts now. I don't think that's completely unreasonable.

I do think it's also fair to point out this sounds like it could be UV, facial swelling, peeling, turning red, blurry vision. Could this be like ultraviolet light? They were standing there and it was burning their faces and skin. Some people reported runny noses. I don't know. Did they say it was an outdoor rally? I and it was burning their faces and skin. Some people reported runny noses. I don't know. Did they say it was an outdoor rally? I think it was indoor. He's been doing most of his rallies indoors since the first assassination attempt.

Yeah. It's odd to me, and I don't want to create panic. We obviously don't know what's going on. It does seem like the reporter who broke the story is doing the best they can to make sure they're fact checking. It creeps me out that during the debate, Kamala Harris was like, no one goes to the rallies. The rallies are bad. Like there is this sort of anti-Trump rally sentiment coming.

And maybe this is sort of another aspect of like they don't want people to see Trump speak in person because he is captivating, because he is charismatic. And so if there are rumors that there are injuries or dangers or whatever, they're hoping that will deter people from turning out for him. Yeah, I'll say that if this story was popping up two months ago, I would be pretty sure that something happened and it wasn't a deliberate attack. But living in a world where Trump, they've tried to kill Trump twice now, you can't dismiss anything like this. And, you know, we were talking off air a little bit. a deliberate attack but living in a world where trump they've tried to kill trump twice now uh

you can't dismiss anything like this and you know we were talking off air a little bit just the simple fact that the last assassination attempt was on sunday and now it's what is it thursday now and it's like it might as well have happened five years ago yeah uh it. The news has completely moved on. And it's like, if this did turn out to be an actual chemical attack against Trump supporters, that's another one. That should be

the only thing we're talking about for the next month. But that story would last about 24 hours and the media would bury it. The fact that this story isn't breaking news on every cable channel.

20 attendees are experiencing facial swelling, blurred vision. One woman reported that she was blinded for days. How is this not the lead story? I mean, also, couldn't MSNBC be running this as an anti-Trump story, being like Trump doesn't take care of his attendees?

I think the reality is the story is too in the direction of someone is attacking Donald Trump and his supporters. And even if the left tried to paint this as the venue screwed up and it's, you know, Trump is stupid or whatever, it still sounds too much like there's a bunch of bad things and violence directed towards the right, not the left. Which they don't want Trump to seem sympathetic at all. So they can't talk about anything that happens. They can't talk about the effects on the rally goers and they can't talk about the assassination attempt. I mean, really, we were still talking about the Butler assassination attempt at this point in the week in July. But instead, with the second attempt, they're saying, well, does it even really count?

He didn't the shooter potential shooter didn't fire off around. Let's just stop talking about it. They have more airtime to Donald Trump saying they're eating the dogs than they did to the second assassination attempt of a former president. That's crazy to me. I do love that we're qualifying assassination attempts now. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, you know, how close did he really get? The guy just had a gun and was on the golf course. I mean, what do you guys want us to do? I mean, the scary thing about the second attempt is this guy was a moron. And if he was in any way slightly smarter, so he stuck the barrel of his SKS through the fence and the Secret Service,

this is what I understand to have happened, they saw the barrel sticking out and the reporting was they're trained to look for straight objects in trees because trees are not straight objects. If he had pulled back in the tree line and kept the barrel of his weapon hidden concealed i don't know if they would have stopped they would have caught him they didn't do a perimeter sweep

either either way i'll say this the fact that when the first assassination happened it wasn't a every radio station in the country every television channel said ladies and gentlemen the former president has been shot he is okay the bologna grazed him. Nobody cared. Nobody even knew it happened for like, some people didn't hear about it until a day or two later. Yeah, it should. For me, it's one of those moments that you'll always remember where you were when you heard it. Because I distinctly remember,

because we were on vacation, I was out fishing, and my wife came out and told me. It's like, it should be one of those moments. It's just one of those moments in American history that you remember for the rest of your life. But of course, the media doesn't want that. And the other thing, too, that one of the reasons why they want to bury this stuff is that, and I was thinking about this when I was watching Trump on Gutfeld yesterday,

which, by the way, is like, even his ability to sit in that environment and just kind of talk to people in a really casual way completely separates him from Kamala. Kamala could never do that but it just speak like this guy has real physical courage in a way that we never see from politicians anymore um if that were me and i was doing some yaf event and i got shot i don't think i'd be out two months later doing another one. And if I got a shot again, I don't think I'd have almost shot again. Yeah. Trump shows up at the RNC with a patch on his ear, his family too.

And my attitude was like, Mr. President, take a day off. We're cool. It's all right. You took a bolt to the ear. People died. But the Trump family and Trump himself were still there. And on the Gutfeld point, there was a great moment in Gutfeld where he asks him, tell me something that, you know, like a fact people don't know about you. And then Trump laughs and says, oh, we don't we don't need any scandals right now.

You know, we're trying to win an election. We're up in the polls. Let's not. He just he's having it sounds real. And this is this is the meme of like, you know, they make these movies and these tropes where a comedian who becomes president because he talks like a regular guy. And then when Trump does it, they're screeching that he's a Nazi, that he's a fascist, that he's evil. They try to kill him twice. And by they, I mean anti-Trump individuals. I'm not implying there's a specific group of people controlling things or whatever. But there are psychotic individuals.

Although it could be a specific group who knows i was gonna say the weird thing about the second assassination attempt is how tied into this this freak of an individual was in pretty senior ukrainian groups oh yeah like he's yeah he's not just a random guy he is someone with a specific political bent yeah yeah and one who seems to i'm not you know assuming there's a conspiracy here but one who had like access to Democratic politicians in the U.S. and was going to Ukraine pretty freely. It's just bizarre how close some of these psychos are to. I mean, why aren't you assuming conspiracy theories? Well, because I try not to get sued. That's a good reason to do it. Fair enough. No, I mean, what conspiracy theory on the assassinations is there to entertain, right?

I don't think that anything we would reasonably discern from the second assassination attempt could warrant what we described as a conspiracy theory. So, of course, I said on my show when this happens, you've got a guy who reportedly has a Ukrainian service contract. We don't know if it's for him or someone else. But according to Semaphore, he has actually sought to recruit individuals to join the International Volunteer Coalition in Ukraine. That being said, if this guy has fought in Ukraine, according to Newsweek, according to Semaphore was recruiting, we absolutely must investigate possible Ukrainian official capacity in the attempt. And that is not to say I believe Ukraine was involved. It's to say that any reasonable person would at least say, well, OK, this is where the guy was coming from.

How does he travel? Where does he get the money for these weapons? Why don't we go and ask? And here's the funny thing. I get these these liberal journalists being like, oh, he's he's pushing conspiracy theories anti-ukraine blah blah blah and i'm like journalists actually asked ukrainian officials this exact question and they responded with we don't know this guy we disavow so my question wasn't even unreasonable i i didn't read into this too deeply but wasn't the guy also known for getting into armed standoffs with local police? He had two previous convictions, and one was for possession of weapons of mass destruction. I mean, I think the issue is that he is—

You trying to blind us with your flashlight over there? Do you need more attention? The movie's not enough? He was trying to tell me in a professional way, and I just— He was like, these hand gestures mean nothing to me. He's a big star now. He doesn't need your hand gestures. No, I mean, I think the reality is we are going to get as little information about this second person who plotted to kill President Trump as as the media and whatever government agencies can possibly give us. Right. They'll give us something to say, well, we're not incompetent, but they do not want to talk about any potential connection to a foreign government, any sort of political motive. And I think that only increases American distrust in these institutions that are saying, no, no, we're I mean, if I was saying we're devoting all of our resources to investigating this.

Yeah. Well, what I would say about that is it's perfectly possible there are conspiracies for both of these things or they're connected i mean who knows uh we can't dismiss any of that but also it's it's also true that trump's enemies are setting up a situation where you would expect random people to start trying to shoot him i mean this is what happens when uh you you relentlessly uh propagandize and tell the American public for like 10 years that this guy is Hitler incarnate. He's a dictator. He wants to destroy democracy. He's a danger and a threat to the whole world. So when you say that about somebody relentlessly for a decade, this is exactly what happens. It's exactly what you would expect.

The left calls that stochastic terrorism. Right. That's the, but only when they came up with a name for their own actions. That's right. Indeed. A thing that we don't see happening in the other direction. Elon Musk is actually, he's getting a, I don't know if you guys heard this. He's being in pro he's being probed.

That's the word they like to use. He's being probed. That's uncomfortable. We don't have to use that word though. Investigated. Let's use that. They said FBI launches launches probe into elon musk because he tweeted something like you know no one's trying to assassinate biden or kamala he deleted it said it was a joke i don't think he should have said it was a joke because it wasn't i think the point

he was making is that as crazy as things are you've got people like whoopi goldberg saying it's just one side it's trump you've got the media saying trump's a threat to democracy and he's like yeah but they're only trying like there's no right wingers going after Kamala or Biden. Like, heaven forbid, we don't want any of that to happen. We don't want Trump to be targeted. I want Biden or Kamala or anybody to be to be attacked in this way. But Elon's point, I think, is apt. The people with all the guns are not taking shots. It's right. And you would think the politicians that are also being protected by Secret Service, a.k.a. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, would say, we really want this agency to function well.

We're going to talk about this nonstop until people feel like it is a trustworthy institution. But instead, they're like, we don't know. Could be anything. I want to pull up this tweet here from Jack Posobiec. He says, breaking bulletproof project update. Matt Gaetz reveals there are five assassination teams targeting President Trump per a DHS source on American soil. I've not yet reviewed this video. I want to give a shout out to Token Black Guy, our super chatter on Tim Castaro, who made me aware of this. We'll play this video clip for you now of Representative Matt

Gaetz. And I'll break a little news for you. I had a senior official from the Department of Homeland Security in my office before the second assassination attempt, saying that what he has assessed is that there are five known assassination teams in the United States, three inspired by other governments, two that are here that are known domestic assassination teams. And with that, this individual was coming to me concerned that the force protection around President Trump, even prior to that second assassination attempt, was not sufficient for what it needed to be. And the coordination at that level, at the dignitary protection level, is like the bare minimum that we have to do to keep our

presidents, our presidential candidates safe while they're on the trail. So there are five, I just want to follow up, five assassination teams. Are they all targeting Trump? Is it other officials? No, I should have been clear about that. Five teams that we know are targeting Trump. And so that raises real questions about why certain teams were being pulled off of the Trump deal detail and put on, for example, the Jill Biden detail. Now, we don't want anything bad to happen to Jill Biden, but at the same time, the threat envelope for her was substantially different than the threat envelope around President Trump, and it would not have necessitated pulling assets away from the Trump detail for the

Jill Biden detail or the John Bolton detail or any other details that were beefed up. At the same time, the requests from the Trump detail and from the Trump campaign for more security were going unanswered. And yeah, they're they're they're saying that, you know, all Trump's not the president, so he's not going to get this level of security with what Matt Gaetz is saying right now that they know he is being targeted by at least five teams. I have to wonder for what reason then would they deny him extra security? Well, Biden kind of passed it off on Congress, right? The day after he said, you know,

I'm glad, you know, President Trump is safe and secure and Secret Service should get more resources. And he's basically saying that's something that Congress has to authorize more funding to do. I mean, so often it seems like when the federal or when the executive branch could step in and do something, they're like, but those crazy Republicans in the legislative branch, like there's nothing we can do. They're ruining our lives. It's I think the level of irresponsibility. They don't want to be accountable for the situations they're creating. This is the most likely conspiracy that I can see is just this, that they are not doing everything that they could be doing and should be doing to protect Trump because they don't actually care if he lives. We talk about conspiracies.

There's different levels. The highest level would be there's actually in the government they're conspiring to take him out. There's that. Then there's several degrees down. Somewhere you end up in a situation where they say, well, we don't want to take him out. There's that. Then there's several degrees down and somewhere you end up in a situation where they're just where they say, well, why do we you know, we don't want to keep him alive, so we're not going to make the effort to do it. Yeah, it's sort of the sit back, wait, and eventually something bad happens if no one's

paying attention. When when the first attack happened, I asked three questions. Does Trump derangement syndrome exist? Obviously, the answer is yes. Are there Democrats who prefer would prefer it if Trump were to have lost his life? The answer to that is is yes. We actually had polling come out. I think it was YouGov. Maybe it wasn't YouGov, but there was a poll came out said 28 percent of Democrats said yes to this. That that's terrifying. And the third question is, is it possible that some of the people who work in government in federal law enforcement are some of these Democrats who suffer from TDS? Well, the answer is yes, of course. I mean, it'd be absurd not to assume that. And that being the case, you have to wonder about how someone like this crooks guy is able to, I don't know, fly a drone over Trump's rally, bring a weapon into Trump's rally, sneak in behind the building, how there was no security on top of the building, how they were they spotted him, you know, three hours, one hour, 27 minutes, 10 minutes and two

minutes before anything happened, identifying him each time. Nothing gets done. Trump was released from holding with an active threat on the field. Nothing was done. Trump wasn't pulled from the stage two minutes. They had two minutes from when people spotted the gun and they didn't pull him from the stage. I'm like, makes me wonder how that's possible. I mean, because if those things are all coincidences, y'all better go buy some lottery tickets because you're going to win. So I think it was Richard Blumenthal or some Democratic senator from Connecticut who went out and made a statement. And this is a Dem saying this, that it's hard not to look at this and saying that the federal government wasn't trying to get Trump killed. He's expressing really serious frustration. He's been doing it for a couple of weeks, but more recently was saying, you know, the

Department of Homeland Security is stonewalling us. I mean, this is an interesting division to have crop up. I think that the Democrats also want answers because there is sort of a rogue division, even among people they would normally look at as their allies. They're just not cooperating that well. What do you think, Matt? What do you think is going to happen in the next couple of months?

We got, what, 47 days until the election? What do I think is going to happen politically on the election? Well, so I'll put it this way. You know, people are saying October surprise. What's it going to be? Well, there were two assassination attempts. Yeah, that's the thing.

It's hard. You would think if this is all being scripted out, then we're in for some great season finale here. But it's kind of like the craziest things have already happened. I mean, you had the incumbent president drop out basically under force. You had two assassination attempts to go along with everything else. I wonder if there's a kind of exhaustion that's setting in with the American public, just because we've had such a, it's the most insane presidential campaign, certainly in my lifetime, maybe in American history, at least in modern American history, I think certainly. Is there a certain amount of exhaustion that sets in? And then what effect does that have come election day? Uh, who does that, if people start kind of tuning it out because it's just too much, uh, who does that help?

I'm not exactly sure. Um, but, uh, well, you know, it's wild is that after Trump was shot in the side of the head, grazed the side of his head, everybody said Trump just won the election. Yeah. I said the same thing. What? But now everyone's Everybody said Trump just won the election. Yeah, I said the same thing. What? Now everyone's saying Kamala just won the election. The debate was bad.

It's like the assassination attempt never even happened. Two of them. Well, they just created a new election by swapping her out, right? I mean, they were saying not only was Trump ahead, but also on top of his crushing performance in the debate against Joe Biden, who basically just powered down in front of us, this assassination attempt and his response to it was so powerful. And so they were just like, OK, we've changed their minds. New characters, swap them in.

And I tend to agree with you. I think there is an exhaustion among Americans. I think that there is an oversaturation of politics. But also, I think Democrats have now run their fourth anti-Trump campaign. They don't really have candidates that people are rallying around. I actually think Hillary Clinton was the one who had the most sort of star power. And then they put in Joe Biden. Then there was a second Joe Biden campaign. And now there's the Harris campaign.

And the theme is always like, not like we have the best candidates and they will really represent you. It's you cannot elect Donald Trump. He's a danger to everything at all times. I mean, and I talk about this all the time, but the, probably the most salient, the most, uh, important political fact in America right now is that nothing matters for more than 48 hours. Um, if anything happened more than two days ago, it basically doesn't matter. And I don't even know, how do you run a campaign in this environment with this kind of

ADHD and there's a million things happening and no one pays attention and an assassination attempt can happen and it has no political impact. It doesn't even affect the polls. I'm not sure how you run a political campaign in that environment. There's this idea that... My bad. I was confused because you were talking about it. You heard my voice without... that was I thought I was having a stroke um but so really what it means is that by the time we get to election day it's impossible to predict because we kind of have to know what happens that week because that's probably going to be so do you think that's when you know the Harris Wallace campaign will release whatever serious bomb they have hiding is that what the Trump campaign's going to ramp up they would look right I don't

think so either at this point at this point we know everything about Trump that there is to know. They've been trying to destroy his life for 10 years now. Trump is remarkably uncorrupt. Because you would think you take any politician, especially anyone who's been to the level that Trump has, and you pour through their life for years at a time looking for anything you can to destroy them. You would think you'd be able to find a lot worse than they've been able to find on Trump. And I think whatever whatever there is on Trump, it's out there.

It's been out there. It's known. It's baked in. So it's hard for me to imagine they have any kind of October surprise up their sleeve. I mean, I certainly think they'll try something. But yeah, I just, with two assassination attempts, with Joe Biden dropping out, with the Teamsters now overwhelmingly supporting Trump, like, I cannot fathom what we would see. I wouldn't be surprised if aliens showed up or something. I have no idea.

We can only hope. We can only hope. It's my dream. We need to get a soap opera writer to come on and be like, we know somebody's going to have an evil twin and they're going to appear. You're big on UFOs, right? Yeah, we can talk about that if you want. I mean, if you want to start that conversation.

I wish Shane was here because he's our UFO guy. He knows everything. But we'll have to save that conversation for maybe when the aliens come. Do you not believe? In October? Are you pro or anti? Well, pro or anti what? Do I believe in aliens?

Yeah, that they exist. God's side project? That they exist. That's an American dad joke, so I stole that one. I think it's plausible. I would say that I think it is likely they do, that aliens do exist, but no and don't.

I think it's silly to say absolutely not they don't. I think it's silly because you've got to do the experiment, you've got to have the evidence. I think based on the evidence, it suggests there's a possibility of it, but I don't know. Do you think aliens are here and they're doing stuff? Well, I don't know if they're here, but I think it's almost a mathematical certainty that they are.

Right, I agree. But wouldn't that just be, know like i'm like i was saying god's side project or how would that how would that play into things i don't know if i well we that's the thing we can't we can't exactly know how it factors into the to god's grand design but we're we are mere mortals after all yeah absolutely no matter what there's so much in the universe that we cannot even possibly comprehend well i'll say this with as insane as this political cycle has been, you get everyone making the joke, they were making it last year, they're making it this year, that the writers of this new season of reality have run out of things to write about. The joke being that life has become so absurd that certainly we are in a simulation or some

kind of TV show entertainment for somebody. Yeah, yeah. I mean, and also it's made people so, that's kind of what I was saying before, it's made people so jaded that they're just kind of bored with it all and not able to pay attention to any of it. There are a lot of people who'll be watching a show for years, but they'll be like, oh, but that fifth season just kind of went off the rails. So I stopped watching. I mean, that is sort of what I think might be happening to the American voting population. They know Trump. They know you hate him. You're not giving them enough on Kamala Harris. And now there are too many side plots that they just don't want to follow.

There's a key demographic for Harris really siding with her that we haven't talked about. And that's white dudes. You know, white dudes. Yeah, it's like 12 of them. You know, white dudes with hairs. A lot of them. Yeah, it's like 12 of them. I know. There's dozens of them. Dozens. There's a dozen of them. You could fill most of a conference room. Yes.

No, I'm really scared. Actually, didn't they have like 100,000 people on their Zoom call or something? Allegedly. But how many of them were actually white dudes

is the question. Right. I think that was mostly white, yeah, women. Something about them like calling themselves dudes instead of men. Right.

It's very emasculating. They don't have any self-respect. They don't care. It's very telling about how they see themselves. There was this viral tweet recently, Matt. I don't know if you saw where an NPR, there was an NPR interview. And some of the guys were talking about they got their testosterone levels checked. And one guy's testosterone was 114.

So anybody who knows anything about that, that person is ill. What is it supposed to be? Well, I mean, should be. They say between three. What's the average? I think the average is like 500 to 600, maybe. And low end, that's considered healthy, but kind of alarming. They say it's around like three.

And very healthy and very, you know, a thousand. You know, I forgot what it was like, you know, N like you know ng whatever i don't know the actual term is but really you want to be you want to be high like if you're a guy you want i don't know 800 you want a thousand you want it you want a high testosterone high now is like average 50 years ago oh yeah it's ridiculous like 50 years ago people had super high testosterone levels. Now you've got, unsurprisingly, a host at NPR being like, I got my testosterone checked. It was 114. And you're like. Why would you say that publicly? It's a very low-T move to announce you're low-T.

There you go. Yeah. It's kind of terrifying. They call themselves white dudes as, like, a diminutive term. I'm just a diminutive term. I'm just a little white dude. Right, because saying white men, it's almost too strong a term for them. So they don't want to say that.

They just put out, did you see the ad they just put out today? The white dudes for hairs? They put an ad out? Yeah, they did. They just put it out today. Do I pull it up? I think you should. Of course, it's unintentionally hilarious. All right, let's see if we can find it. Yeah, I retweeted it. I don't know. Or you, it's unintentionally hilarious. All right. Let's see if we can find it.

Yeah. I retweeted it. I don't know. Or you could probably just search for it. I think it's crazy how much Kamala Harris wants the white vote. Is it proud to unveil the first ad from White Dudes for Harris? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man.

You're making me do it. All right, all right. Here we go. We got this tweet from White Dudes for Harris. Proud to unveil the very first ad from white dudes for harris we're coming together to support kamala harris focusing directly on taking on talking to white dudes about our role in this election this is just the beginning we're showing up speaking out and standing for what matters oh i'm sorry i have to

unmute this because i really hear this come on i didn't want to hey white dudes so i think we're all pretty sick of hearing how much we suck. Every time you go online, it's the same story. We're the problem. And yeah, some white dudes are. Trump and all his MAGA buddies are out there making it worse, shouting nonsense in their stupid red hats and acting like they speak for us when they don't.

All they've ever done is screw us over. But if you're not on the MAGA train, where do you go? Isn't it just swapping out one crappy option for another? Then it hit me. This isn't about picking teams. It's about who's got a plan that's gonna make life better for me and my family. So I've been doing my own research and decided to check out Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. And before you jump down my throat, they're actually talking to guys like us. No lectures, no BS, just real solutions that protect our freedoms and help us take care of the people who matter. And honestly, I think Harris and Walz are the ones to make that happen. End of the day, you're your own man. It's your call. But if anyone gives you crap about it,

tell them it's none of their damn business. Well, so that explains why the Teamsters are backing Donald Trump. I think whoever wrote that commercial has never met a white man. I just don't think they have. It's a commercial for men, like written by women. You can already tell. But I don't know. They said damn.

They said crap. They said BS. No lectures. No BS. No nagging GF. I mean, I feel like if they wanted to make an actual ad, it would be like, hey, vote Kamala. That would be it. Like, nobody's got time. Nobody.

We don't need to. Cut to the chase. Don't waste my time. Kamala's even married to one of us. But, you know, it's funny because you said it's written by women. And you ever see that comedy bit where a guy says, so a buddy of mine, you know, he's having, he's going through a divorce and things have been rough. And, you know, he's, I guess he's going to get back into dating. So we go golfing. When I come home, my wife says, so,

so how is he? And I go, I don't know. And she was like, what do you mean? Weren't you golfing together? Yeah. Well, is he seeing somebody? He goes, didn't come up. She's like, you don't know anything about your friend. And he's like, we don't talk about it. Like that bit was funny to everyone because they know guys aren't going and meeting up and talking about these things. Hey, you know, Kamala Harris,

she ain't lecturing guys like me. White dudes like you, we should go vote for her. They're going to be like, what are you talking about, dude? Shut up. The game's on. But again, the writer's room has never met a white man. They don't to be like, what are you talking about, dude? Shut up. The game's on. But again, the writer's room has never met a white man. They don't know them at all.

And the white men that they hang out with are completely compliant to their will. I mean, the thing is, Kamala Harris wants white men to vote for her. And I know this because they're now courting Mormons in Arizona. Mormons, overwhelmingly white. And they're trying to say, no, she represents your values better than Donald Trump. I just want to point out this ad is paid for by Beige Rainbow Pack. What? white and they're trying to say no she represents your values better than donald trump i just i just want to point out this ad is paid for by beige rainbow pack what what is that beige rainbow hold on they're just making fun of white people seriously sounds like a i mean to me it's the ad sounds like it's like a in the style of like an anti-drug commercial that they would show you

in high school that's trying to sound really cool and hello fellow youth right exactly or it's i mean i don't know if this was made by women but it's the kind of ad that some liberal woman will show her boyfriend because she thinks that he'll like it like that that kind of thing uh but even in an ad even an ad that's supposed to appeal to men you you notice that the first 15 seconds are still dumping on men. They can't even appeal to men without going, well, yeah, look, I mean, some men suck. We all know that. Let's just get that out of the way. Men are terrible.

But by the way, and then they get into the whole thing. So they can't even appeal to men without dumping on men. I don't know if you could make an effective ad for men in general for Kamala because she doesn't offer anything substantive to a man. And let me clarify that because you may be saying, sure, but what do you mean? I mean, if I was going to make an ad that was literally about apolitical dudes who are sitting there, they don't want to be bothered,

I'd be like, hey, you guys remember when Donald Trump called Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig? And they're going to laugh. That's funny. And it's like, that's all you need to do. The guys are going to be sitting around they're gonna be ribbing on each other they're joking they're crude they're crass Kamala doesn't have anything that's going to make a guy laugh but also the problem they run into is that there's just there is no room in the country where any white men are sitting around talking about how they like Kamala Harris

like men will talk about politics I talk about politics you know all the time but just that would never happen you would never be hanging out with other guys and like hey you like Kamala Harris. Like, men will talk about politics. I talk about politics, you know, all the time. But just that would never happen. You would never be hanging out with other guys and like, hey, you know, Kamala Harris, she's really, she's... She's presented a great plan. Yeah, you know. Definitely not. Her rhetoric is all about, like, safety, and I'm safe, and I'm your mamala.

And women will flock to that. Men don't respond to that. I think she's pretty intimidated by men. I think it's interesting that she won't sit down. Number one, that she picked Tim Walls, who is soy, as you can get, as her VP. And then every time she tries to, like, say she's doing an interview, it's with female interviewers. And they're always mostly allowing her to ask the question.

But the governor is her appeal to white guys, by the way. She's like, well, this guy, like, you know. She clearly understands what appeals to white men. He knows how to eat a turkey leg. But also but also will put tampons in a men's restroom like but look at the the that ad she the interview thing she did where he she was like you know do you eat food and he's like i have white guy tacos and she's like what's that and he's like he's like beef and she's like what is that tuna and mayonnaise and he's like beef with cheese like do you season it no like is that supposed to be endearing to white guys?

I don't season my tacos because I'm a stupid white guy. Well, that's the whole claim. This is a side thing, but the claim that white people don't season their food. It's like, speak for yourself. I don't know what. Matt, are you familiar with the East India? There's been a huge discourse about Indian food. Are you familiar with the East India Trading Company?

Yes. White people massacred hundreds of thousands to season their food. We were crazy about spices. Yeah, seriously. We literally would kill for our spices. That's how much we liked them. Black peppercorn was like the most valuable substance. And I was like, I put pepper on it.

It's like, okay, it's a start. But we all know the funny thing is he was lying because he actually had some award-winning casserole recipe with cayenne and garlic. That's a really good, you know, that's a good point. We fought and died for spices, damn it, and now you're trying to take spices away from us? Or they want to, but this is part of the lie that they engage in. You know, these woke, anti-racist, all these people you know very well play this game where, you know, it was only like seven years ago, a big talking point was that white people have no culture. This was a huge thing they were saying, saying, no, no, white people have no culture. This is culture. They

point to, you know, other ethnic groups. And then it's just like, what are you talking about? There's like, there's a whole bunch of cultures from people who are white. What is that supposed to mean? And they play this game where they say white doesn't mean the color of your skin. It doesn't mean you're of certain European countries. It means you're the dominant social group, which is to imply that Chinese people are white in China. That's the argument they make. And I'll give you a funny one on this. We had a running gag on this show when Luke Rutkowski was a recurring co-host. Luke Rutkowski has blonde hair and blue eyes. He's Polish. And according to an organization called the Coalition for Communities

of Color, Polish people are people of color. So I'm sitting here, part Asian and I don't count, I am not a person of color and blonde hair, blue eyed, white dude is a person of color, that's their logic I agree with the sentiment that there's no such thing as white culture because it's just

so broad and so absurd, like there's certainly such thing as an American culture and that's something I participate in, there's no such thing as white culture because it's just so broad and so absurd. There's certainly such thing as an American culture, and that's something to participate in. There's something as German culture, Swedish culture, Nordic culture in general. But to just paint Europe and the West with a broad brush and be like, well, you whiteys have your own thing. Sure, when you guys have not nearly as much in common

with the average German walking around as you do. But I think it's it's needlessly reductive. It's like there are white people who have certain cultural elements. When you come from Europe, there are certain things that are broadly shared and there are certain things that are not. And it's just like you can make the point you made. I think it's a it's a it's a point that, well, you can identify German culture culture but i don't see i don't know why they're so mad about saying you know trying to try to make that a point i think it's like you but you can't have it both ways i think that's because they try to have it both ways because they'll say well there's no such thing as white culture and then they'll give an answer much like what what you said that well yeah you break it i

mean you break it down by where did you come from and yeah there's an irish culture there's a um and okay but then it's the same thing for black because black is not you know there's there's how many different countries could you come from to qualify as black according to to our standards i agree with this you know i was born in ethiopia you know there is as ethiopian cultural identity um and that is separate from you know, there is Ethiopian cultural identity and that is separate from, you know, I don't know what the hell black culture is besides a ridiculously degrading and reductive thing to say, but like, oh, well,

I guess you're good at dancing and basketball. Playing the bass. Yeah, yeah, which, you know, I've tried my hand in. Are you good at basketball? No, I'm terrible. Okay. But the woke, these individuals claim there is black culture. It's hypocritical. It's paradoxical. Um, but when it's kind of inconsistent and we're just like taking a whole swath of people and say, well, they don't have culture at all. Uh, that's, that's where it becomes an issue.

Although I will say, just to bring it back to the white dudes for Harris, and I made this point before that the way that they're appealing to white dudes, calling them white dudes, all of it, it's very silly. It's ridiculous. I don't think it's going to work. Uh, I think it's, it's laughable But it is still striking That still The Democrats are making A explicit

Deliberate play For the white male vote Meanwhile Republicans on the other hand They would just never do that They're not going to ever acknowledge white males As a distinct group or category Because they're scared of being called racist or because they don't think it's worth their time

because the votes are already coming in? I think both. I think it's both, but it's mainly the first thing. But they will say, I mean, you'll hear from any Republican, well, here's how we're going to help black Americans. Here's how we're going to help women. Here's how we're going to help Asians. They'll say all that, and that's fine.

But then there's this whole other category. Well, we're not going to specifically talk about how we're going to help Asians. They'll say all that and that's fine. But then there's this whole other category. Well, we're not going to we're not going to specifically talk about how we're going to help those people. And it's just interesting that the Democrats are the only ones doing that right now. Of course, they're doing it in a really, you know, insulting way. It's not that it wouldn't be smart for Republicans to do it, but the general point is just stop doing it. It's a really reductive way to just view this country and the complementary aspect of the most beneficial aspect of this country. But the Harris-Walls campaign is completely bent on identifying to people based on race. I mean, the reason she's appearing at the Hispanic conference today,

she's talking to black journalists specifically. She's attending black sorority functions. I mean, she is obviously acknowledging that the Democratic organizers that are behind her see our country through the lens of race exclusively, which is interesting because they're also arguing they're the most unifying party. Well, she's also mentioning the debate that, you know, Republicans need to get off of this whole race business. Meanwhile, I will only talk to you if you're if you're circled up by race. I don't know about who's going to win. There's predictions. They go crazy. Everybody thinks they know.

But I do think that we should heed the warning of the left on this one, and that is that this country is inherently sexist. They say it's racist, too, but we'll talk about that in a second. I brought up a while ago that I believe there's a component of the United States population that will not vote for a woman president it's not just conservatives I'm Mary says her but I believe there's Democrat men who are probably in their 60s who are like I ain't voting for a woman and they're Democrats but they don't say it they don't say it they don't even say it to themselves but they they feel it subconscious I mean they'll say it in private they'll say it when no one's around I tell you I was sitting at a wing place the other day and there was a couple of construction

worker guys and the things they were saying, you know, they would never say in a larger public context. But these guys were voting for Trump, the stuff they were saying. They were talking about capital punishment and how to get this country right. And I'm like, I know exactly who they're voting for. But there are a bunch of Democrats who are probably older and don't want to vote for a woman. I brought this up and these liberals called me sexist for saying it. And I'm like, how am I sexist? I'm saying I agree with you, liberal, that there are there's a component at some degree in this country that will not vote for her. And if she's here's what I wonder if she's up in the polls by a point or two, but she could lose a point or two because there are a lot

of men and women who will not vote for a woman because she is a woman that's the liberal talking point on inherent sexism how am i wrong i mean well i don't know that i buy that that's true i don't think that that many people have especially on the left have a compunction about voting for a woman i i don't know it's i'm saying i'm saying that there are older people who are going to be like i don't want to vote for a woman and and that number is probably significant enough i'm not saying it's going to be 10 would you vote for a female trump oh yeah yeah i remember there was some psychological experiment done around the 2016 election where they scripted a debate between a female Trump character.

It wasn't said explicitly. And a male Hillary. And most of the respondents said they would vote for the female. Yep. Based on her rhetoric. It was NYU. There was this theory that Hillary lost because she's a woman and people are sexist. So they said, let's do the debate.

Same lines. Performed perfectly by two actors, but the Trump is a woman and the Hillary is a man. And the end result was that people thought Hillary was a guy. It was a guy with glasses, and it was a woman in a red dress. And they said, that guy is too snooty and condescending. The woman was passionate and wanted to help us. But a woman would never talk like Trump. That would never happen. We were

talking about that on the drive up here because we were talking about the Australian office and how they gender swapped Dwight. Yeah, it was awful. They gender swapped Michael. They gender swapped Dwight. Really? Matt made the astute observation that a female

Dwight doesn't exist. No. It just doesn't work and I think that's the same with a female Trump. I just can't picture. I also think there's no other male Trump. I mean, Trump is really unique in a lot of ways. There were other people who share his maybe values or ideas or, you know, interests politically, but you couldn't recreate Trump. I think it's a mistake to try regardless of gender. He's yeah, he's a very unique guy. But you can even look at a lot of his personality traits and you can say, oh yeah, I know guys that are kind of like that, kind of like that.

But you can't do that. I don't know any woman who's anything like Trump. Well, let's do this. We're going to jump to this next segment here. From Rotten Tomatoes, we have Breaking News. Am I racist? Officially has a red tomato. Congratulations, Matt. Thank you. You were certified gray, but now you has a red tomato. Congratulations, Matt.

You were certified gray, but now you are certified red tomato. It's not fresh. They didn't give you the fresh rating. Is that what it is? Well, it is fresh. It's not certified fresh because we don't have enough ratings and we'll never have enough ratings because the mainstream critics are completely ignoring this film like it doesn't exist. Isn't it true that

you guys had sent a link for the preview or like to review the movie early to a left wing critic? He wrote a critical review but then you saw that he had never actually watched it? That's what someone told me. Yeah something like yes that happened with I believe the first film What is a Woman. Okay.

I don't remember who it was but somebody reviewed it and we could tell in the link that they didn't watch but he authored a completely scathing review. Yeah, absolutely. And on this one, we sent it out for critics to screen weeks ahead of time. As you do when you have a film and you're proud of it, you think it'll get good reviews. Or at least it deserves good reviews. And we sent it out.

We got a whole bunch of responses from a lot of independent critics who basically told us to F off. And they've got no interest. They would never review a movie by matt walsh they're independent of them right uh and and then the the mainstream critics we actually had a few that rolling stone for example asked for a screener we gave it to them and expressed some interest in reviewing it never published a review there are a couple other mainstream critics that seemed like they were interested in reviewing it never published a review and you know i'm i'm biased of course in my feeling on this but i have been wondering like well why wouldn't they just publish a review and rip it apart and pan it and say that it's terrible that's what they usually do with

concert you know quote-unquote conservative movies they could easily do that here the rolling rolling stone publishes stuff about me all the time, talking about what a terrible guy I am. So you'd think they'd love to do that about this movie, and they haven't yet. And I think that part of the reason for that, well, there's two reasons. One is that the movie calls attention to something that I think they just don't want to talk about,

which is the DEI grift. And two, it's a good movie. And if they were to give any kind of honest review, any kind of credible review, not saying they'd have to give it four stars, but they'd have to at least ignore, they have to give it some credit. They wouldn't be able to claim that it's just a total artistic disaster.

And, but then they also know that if they, if they were to publish a review, even if it was like one and a half stars, this is a bad movie. But, you know, it's got this and this going for it. It was kind of funny. I laughed. If they were to say even that much, their readership would revolt.

It would be a mutiny. And so that's why they're just ignoring it. Do you think any reviewers like sent their editors a moderate review, like you're saying, some negative, some positive, and the person got it and was like, I just can't run this. It's not worth the risk. I have no idea. It would not surprise me at all.

I mean, we know what happened. We have had a couple of well-known reviewers who are not mainstream because they don't work for mainstream publications, but we had some of these YouTube reviewers. Jeremy Johns is a big one, and he published a review, which we really appreciate. It was a positive review. He's got millions of subscribers. And then the left spent several days on

Twitter attacking this guy and calling him racist for watching. Not even for liking the movie. It's just the simple fact that he watched it and said anything about it made him racist automatically. I think a lot of these other reviewers are looking at that and they're like, I don't want any part of that.

You've got 10 reviews. You've got over 1,000 audience verified ratings, giving it a 98% verified hot. I give the film, my review is 10 out of 10, and I think it is fair to call it a masterpiece. And what I mean by that is not some

empty platitude of this thing is so good I call it a masterpiece. What I mean is in that is not some empty platitude of this thing is so good, I call it a masterpiece. What I mean is in terms of what you are trying to accomplish with the film, at least as far as I see it, the film is produced perfectly. I have no notes. There's no point in the film where I said they should have done this, they should have done that. I understood it.

I thought it got its message across. I thought it was hilarious. I was in a packed theater. So just everything about what you set out to do, I think you guys accomplished. That's why I say it got its message across. I thought it was hilarious. I was in a packed theater. So just everything about what you set out to do, I think you guys accomplished. That's why I say it's a masterpiece. It is a work where you've hit all of the points. I'm in a DC theater.

I'm in Washington, DC, just outside of DC, to be fair. It's packed, about 90% packed, to the point where you're not gonna buy a ticket in this theater, because you're gonna be like splitting up from your group and one person, you know, you're gonna be in that one seat in between two groups of people. So the whole theater is laughing their ass off the entire time.

I'm in one of the front rows because it was hard to actually get good seats and just laughing endlessly. And I'm like, this is a comedy film. It's not overtly political. It nailed it. So anyway, back to the point. 98% of people agree. Over a thousand ratings. They come to Rotten Tomatoes, they review it. For a while, Rotten Tomatoes seemed to have been intentionally censoring the reviews you did have that were all good.

There were five good reviews from big names, and it said zero. And then it went to seven and eight good reviews, and it said zero and only when they get two negative ratings do they now put the view all in there and give the score and put it at 80 which is still good yeah i noticed the same thing i noticed exactly it wasn't until they got yeah they had to get a couple of bad ones in there and so you could see that you're featuring the bad ones nice and uh prominently there yeah we got some jesse gender the trans... Where's my review on this one? Do I have to submit it? Because I did a 20-minute video.

It's got half a million views where I said it's a great film. Here's why. Here's what I think is great about it. How come my YouTube video is not listed in a review on this as a positive one? Yeah, there's...

Well, that's a good question. I don't know. They selectively chose a YouTuber who didn't like you to put in there to claim that your film was no good. Yeah. And it is absurd,

especially when it's someone that you know, like there's no chance in hell that that person would give us anything but a bad review. But it's fine. You know, I mean, I would have no, I have no complaints about them. Just, just, this is my point. Just catalog all the reviews, good and bad. And that's what, that's what you should be doing. Jesse Gender said that there's no call to action at the end of Am I Racist? So what would you say to that? Was there a call to action? Is that incorrect? I think that there is, but also I take issue with the kind of the premise there that I don't know that a movie has to have a call to action exactly. And that's one of the things that some of the,

you know, we've gotten a lot of good reaction from the audience, which I appreciate. I have seen some of the criticism and some of it, you know, we've gotten a lot of good reaction from, from the audience, which I appreciate. I have seen some of the criticism and some of it, you know, some of it I think is valid. It's not like any movie you could criticize some of the criticism that I go, even from the right, some of the criticism we've gotten,

it's, it's from people that don't seem to understand what a movie is supposed to do. And also don't seem to understand that we are, that this is supposed to be a comedy. Yeah. So I've gotten, for example,

I've gotten the, every once in a while, I've heard feedback from people saying, well, you know, during that race to dinner scene, it was good, and you were exposing the crazy things they were saying,

but I didn't like how you were interrupting too much. I was like, well, but it's funny. That's why we did it. I mean, it's a comedy also. Like you're trying to put butter on and they're trying to shoo you away,

and you just ignore them and do it anyway.'s comedy film right because the basic criticism there is someone saying basically you should have made a different kind of movie than the one you made and that's you can't that's not a valid criticism that's like watching uh you know die hard and saying uh there should have been a lot more comedy in it it's like that's that's not what it's a different kind of movie. You have to judge the movie based on what it's trying to accomplish, which I appreciate was what you're... The mistakes made by so many of these right-wing culture warriors

who are well-intentioned and want to make culture is that they make things overtly political. Yeah. And, you know, I can even point to The Daily Wire and say why this one is so good. The criticisms I heard of Lady Ballers was that it was overtly preachy, that it was actually telling you the point of the film. Whereas Am I Racist is a funny film. I mean, it's slapstick, you know.

I don't want to give away too much, but I think this is in the trailer, like you drop a plate. You know what I mean? It's not a political message. It's not you saying, hey, look, what they're doing is bad. It's you exploring this world and doing comedy, interrupting somebody, asking them a question. You know, the opening scene where you're in this big group of people and you keep trying to talk. And then you're like, I was going to say that. That's what I was going to say. Like, it's just jokes. And so what you get out of that, the reason why it's substantially

more effective politically by not being overtly political is that if I tell somebody I know who doesn't like politics to go see it as a comedy film, they're going to laugh at you tripping and falling. They're going to laugh at you trying to put the butter on the plate when the person's telling you not to. And the butt of the joke is, hey, look how silly these people are. So the impression that people get from it is, Matt is a funny guy. Ha ha, he played a prank. He's so funny. Those people looked so dumb. There's nothing else beyond that that you need to understand politically. You don't need to go to someone and say, I'd like to teach you about why critical race theory is wrong. See, back in 1984, Kimberly Crenshaw, it's like, no, no, no, you don't need any of that. That's for podcasts.

That's for high-level, esoteric political conversations. A comedy movie need only show Matt Walslip on a banana peel. And you have to put the message cannot come before the story, and in this case, the comedy, if it's a comedy. And this is a mistake that kind of, you look atian movies uh historically for the last 20 or 30 years and there have been some good ones i'm not i'm not trying to you know write them all off but one of the major problems with christian films for so long is that the message was obviously the first priority and so they said to themselves well we got the message down that's all that matters this is all very nice it's biblical it's the right message um and so and so then the script and the writing and the the acting and all that the production value doesn't matter as much but the problem with that is that you end up with a bad movie and when you have a bad movie then

you also don't get the message across as well as you want to because people aren't watching the movie the only people are going to watch the movie are the ones who are only there for the message and those are exactly the people who don't need to hear the message because that's what they're there for. So you have to, it's like in a way, and it's a little bit, especially when you're, when you do have a message you want to get across, it feels a little bit, especially for me, it feels a little counterintuitive, but you have to kind of let the message take a back seat. So, so that ultimately it'll do a better job of communicating the message. 100%.

There's that show New Norm. We've talked about it quite a bit. It got, I don't know, 40 million views, but everyone ragged on it. It was like the South Park of X. And the jokes were all directly on the nose. I'm a woke person. Look how woke I am. And it's like, okay, we get it.

My response to that was make you want to do a sitcom that that makes the butt of the jokes wokeness and makes wokeness it it marginalizes woke ideology it's a regular family they have regular problems the teenage daughter is going on a date with a boy for the first time and you know her dress gets a stain on it that kind of silly sitcom stuff and the neighbor who constantly comes over to bring over cupcakes or whatever is this fat woke purple haired woman and the family rolls their eyes they're friends with her they like her she's the neighbor but she's so woke and you you otherize it so you give it a back seat and you let the jokes exist as normal jokes that are that are relatable to the average person and then you otherize the negative thing and make it the butt of the joke. I think people are turned off when it's too heavy handed. Like when you're saying

Christian movies are just sort of like, this is the message and that's all we're going to focus on. It takes away the subtlety. And I think so much of similar to political exhaustion, so much of what people are looking for is to consume media without it being the message or the point being shoved down their throat. They want to be having an intellectual or emotional experience with it and if you're just saying and now you feel sad and now you feel happy and that's good and that's bad it's not really anything that people want to subject themselves yeah i also think that it's it's uh conservative entertainment can sometimes fall into and new norm is probably an example is um it's it's kind of like this conservative version of what i would call reference humor and you think back to you know back in the

mid-2000s there was a string of movies was like disaster movie epic movie date movie you know i'm talking about that and uh the scary movie and that's what and it was that it was like they would they wouldn't make a joke. They would just kind of reference something from pop culture. And then they say, Oh look, Simon Cowell showed up, you know, from American idol. And there's no joke there. It's just, yeah, I remember that thing. And it's just the lowest form of, it's not really comedy at all. Cause you're not making a joke.

And sometimes conservatives can fall into that new norm. Like I said, it's like, they're saying, oh, you know, how woke people have purple hair. You see, we have that too. But that's, you have to, what, that could be funny, but you have to, the fact that we recognize that as a thing in culture is not funny. You have to make a joke about it, which I think is sometimes lacking. So when you're storyboarding, when you're, you know, prepping the movie, Ben, maybe this is a question for you, but you're obviously in the back of your mind, knowing that some people are going to miss the mark. They're going to want it to be a really serious documentary when it's actually a comedy. They're going to misunderstand why you decided to

make this choice in editing. Is it something that you like decide how much of that you're willing to absorb or what's the cost benefit analysis there? Well, I definitely want to hear Matt's comments on this because, you know, a lot this this movie is his film. He's a producer on this film as well. And he's allowed to take full creative ownership of it. And he should. And it's racist. But I really want to give credit to our director, Justin Folk, for kind of keeping all of us and our entire team with our eyes on the prize here, which is to make a good movie. And one that we all wanted to watch and one that hits the marks that we were achieving for ourselves. And there's a quote about a conductor when he's conducting a band, and that's you have to actually turn your back to the audience to do that well. So there's definitely an aspect of that, and just trusting that we are good artists, we know how to make good art, and people will support that.

Another example of why I rate this 10 out of 10, the intro editing and music. The way, like, something as really simple as the graphics used, where it's showing, like, the various names of people involved in the introduction, and the style, the editing, the imagery, the graphic art and design was spot on. Pacing was perfect. Like the songs going good music choice. Like it. I haven't seen a good comedy film in a very, very long time. Most movies that we see that are comedy are just passively comedy.

Like Ant-Man, I mentioned this other night, is a superhero movie that is also a comedy, but kind of. This was actually a comedy film that was edited to be one. Yeah. I'm glad you bring up the editing because in this kind of movie in particular, the editing is... Of course, editing is always important in any film, but in a film like this, when you're dealing with a lot of raw footage and you're going out and doing things in real life, and then you have to construct the story after the fact, the editing is all the more important. So, so much of this,

Justin Folk, director, but also kind of lead editor also on the project and then our other editor, Marshall, there were early versions of the film that are just night and day. Our first couple of versions were just not good. And it's all the same kind of material. It's all the same stuff.

But you have to go back in and find. It's like finding that, okay, when do we get out of the scene? When do we get into it? Shaving off a little moment here and there can make a huge difference in a way that, you know. Another reason. Another reason I got to point out because you're making the light bulbs pop up. It was very obvious to me that you guys wrote a story after these interviews in some, in some of the cases, it was obvious to me that in some of these circumstances, you knew exactly what you were going to get out of these people. I have a theory that you

intentionally gave your name to that focus group in the beginning. I don't think they just figured it out. I think you got up and left. And I, and my theory is that one of the proofs was like, Hey, that's Matt Walsh. I don't think it was because somebody who would have known, but that's just my theory. You don't got to say anything. However, like you, you guys had no idea of knowing that Robin DiAngelo was going to pay reparations. So the, the VO you're doing and the story you're writing very much is dependent upon what those people gave you afterwards. So you couldn't go, you couldn't say, here's our story. Now let's go get the scene with Robin DiAngelo. It was, let's go see what happens afterwards. Okay. Here's how we can fit this into a narrative and what the story is going to be. And that's crazy in my,

in, in, in film, like making a documentary or a film, I think it's massively impressive. Yes, that is, uh, that, that is kind of how it works. So you, you have a, we started with a broad outline of what we wanted the movie to be, what we kind of how it works. We started with a broad outline of what we wanted the movie to be, what we kind of wanted the quote-unquote journey to be. But you're right that it's like, well, we don't actually know what anyone's going to do or how they're going to respond.

So then you go out and you do something and people always throw, there's always kind of a curveball thrown at you, which may take, so we had the outline and we ended up maybe like the first few steps of the outline and we ended up maybe like we had the first few steps of the outline that we actually did. And then it just goes way off over here because we have to kind of follow the ball.

So then I'll ask you, did they actually know who you are and you got up and left the room and someone went, hey, that's Matt Walsh? You know, it's interesting. Things work a whole different, all different ways. You know, you never know exactly how things work in life. Neither confirming or denying over there. I can confirm. Very Kamala Harris of you to dodge the answer.

I grew up a middle-class kid. I've made a bunch of mini-docs. I've made a handful of longer-form documentaries. And so when I was watching this, and after, like, first of all, I mean, that first woman, when you're talking about Moana and your daughter I'm just dude

it was painful how much it was like the laughter was painful everybody the whole theater wouldn't shut up they were laughing so much and then after a few scenes when I realized how you would have had to have done this I'm like not only did they make a movie they were navigating a maze as they were doing it to make it work this is genius this is

masterful. It's fantastic. I want to go back to that opening scene, the workshop, because there's some behind the scenes, really, really funny stuff that happened when Matt was running across state lines to make sure that the cops weren't chasing after him after they called the police. I was fleeing. Left the team behind. They called the cops on you. They did call the cops.

You didn't even do anything. That's crazy. Yeah. So these people are very, very frustrated with me and our other producer, Sean Hampton, another black producer who deserves a lot more credit than I'm currently receiving. But they're very, very frustrated that him and I aren't talking to the police. And we send the white guy, Justin Folk, to handle the cops while we're working the room. And one of them comes up and just screams, you know, like, you guys are the producers.

What the hell? You guys aren't talking to the cops. Like, well, you know, I can't. I'm blown away that you would even ask me. As a black man, how could you do that? You have really made the situation so much more unsafe for me. Did you really say that? Of course.

Did she apologize? She apologized. She gives me a hug. Oh my god. There's a whole second movie with this guy. The behind the scenes movie of the movie and the kind of acting that

had to go on. Much of that will never be... It was not on film. We'll have to release a DVD with the special features. We can see all these. I will say that. I mean, I, I, I wasn't there when they call the cops and all that, but that, that seminar was supposed to go on for another hour, but they were so distraught emotionally by what happened that they had to, they had to stop. And there were all kinds of comments that I heard after the fact there was concerns, right.

From some in the crowd that. Yeah. There's a school nearby and they're like, there's kids here from some in the crowd that yeah there's a school nearby and they're like there's kids here and you're like yeah oh no matt walsh was near a school what uh oh dude that is wild did they say anything else to you about it or the other producer or like that was it that was like the key moment i mean that was that was certainly the highlight how dare you ask a black man to talk to cops but One thing I'll say to your point is that we, I mean, it's interesting because What is a Woman?

I think it turned out great. I'm proud of that film. Our original concept of What is a Woman was actually supposed to be a little bit closer to air in that our original idea was that I i would go and talk to and if you remember in that movie we talked the first person we talked to is this therapist this you know woke gender therapist and i asked her uh if maybe if i'm a woman and she says yeah you probably are and so the original concept was we wanted to kind of build from that and because now i'm like

okay i must be a woman and so then we're going of build from that because now I'm like, okay, I must be a woman. And so then we're going to build from that and let like one thing lead to another where I kind of believe her. And then we put that into action. And then we kind of filmed the rest of it. And it just, it turned out that that wasn't really going to work for an angle. And we decided to go this direction instead. I think it worked well. In this one, we kind of went back to that.

And so we really want to get that feeling of this thing building so that we go and talk to one person and I learn things and it kind of changes my perspective. And then we go to the next place and it just builds and builds and builds so that by the end of the movie, this thing can get really weird and kind of dark. And it kind of has this feeling of building. You want to document ascending through the cult. Right, exactly. And then watching it back, especially when I saw it for the first time in theaters at the premiere, it felt that to me. I felt the build, which is exactly what we were going for with that. The whole theater busted out laughing when the over-smiling chart scene.

Now, I don't give too much away, but those pictures and then just everyone started to erupt. It was just, it's so good. People got to go see the movie. He also had a, that was maybe his toughest role in the over-smiling exercise. To stand there. Yeah. Staring at the group. That scene was certainly the most.

I love it when you tell your Uncle Frank the joke about the picnic tables and the actor is laughing. Yeah, we didn't script that i don't think that was just uh we didn't tell it's not your actual uncle it's not my actual uncle no no but i'm sure he's a he's a great uncle just to somebody but we didn't we didn't tell him the joke ahead of time so you screamed it at him you know there's a kind of a dark part about that scene i don't want to spoil anything if people haven't seen it yet but someone was talking about how they've cut off so many of their family members because they're racist and obviously this person has a totally deranged idea of what the word racist means and it showed how indoctrination like that really splits families apart and friendships apart

and i know it's like a lighthearted movie, but that was actually like very demonic. That was that actually. So that part, uh, the thing that 95% of the people that talked about the movie, they bring up Robin D'Angelo reparations and all that, which is a,

you know, it's a quite striking part of the film. Uh, to me, that wasn't her paying reparations. Not the most shocking thing for me making it. I think for me, and I think I can speak for most of the film uh to me that wasn't her paying reparations not the most shocking thing for me making it i think for me and i i think i speak for most of the people in the crew it was that it was the uh is uncle frank and yeah i don't want to give it all away but the the way that the

the class reacted uh to the uncle frank moment for me was the most shocking thing because i did not see that coming i thought that the way we had this plan to the extent Frank moment, for me, was the most shocking thing because I did not see that coming. I thought that the way we had this plan, to the extent you can plan anything, because we needed an out. Like, we needed a, this is the end of the journey. I need to have, like, a dark night of the soul thing. And I realized that this is all wrong. And we thought it would be, I'm going to take this too far,

and the people in the class will not go along with it, and then that will be my realization that I've gone too far. You could have gone further. You could have handed the whips to the people and say Frank is right there. You think they would have hit him? Yes.

They would have. That's the proof. Just to shamelessly plug, you guys can go to amiracist.com if you guys do want to find out exactly what happened to uncle frank uh and especially go this weekend it's pretty important to us that's what so i bring my black friend along to do the plug i may have lied at maybe 15 it is interesting though because family estrangements are on the rise in america like this is a documented phenomenon of people like adult children saying, I'm not gonna talk to my parents anymore for, you know, various reasons. Uh, I think that people don't want to

address the reality that this, uh, you have to purge people from your life who don't think the right way is, is truly impacting the basic level of American culture, which is the family. Yeah. I think that's a reaction to the religion of secularism, too, because you have to essentially disagree with all 10 of the commandments to really feel what they're feeling. And that's where you're seeing the shift in culture. So if you're not obligated and truly morally obligated to honor your father and mother, then, of course, you can write them off for a petty political grievance. That's terrifying stuff that people's families are being broken apart for weird, nonsensical. I mean, the the the word race, the word white supremacy, all of these things have

completely different meanings if you're in the cult. And then based on those absurd, nonsensical meanings, they destroy your family. But I said this before. I'm curious your thoughts on this. It's kind of, you know, off topic, I guess. But, you know, my view is that when you look at reproduction rates between conservatives and liberals, liberals are at like one point four or something or might be lower than that. Conservatives are at like one point eight. Then just do the math. Certainly in 20 to 40 years, there will be less people in the United States, but they'll be mostly conservative. And so it only takes a small percentage change in the population's political ideology to overwhelmingly change its policy. Because you get 51% in a country like this, you're going to change everything. With conservatives having more kids than liberals,

it kind of seems to me that the math is simple. The future is going to be conservative. Yes, if we assume that the conservatives having kids are passing down conservative values to their kids. And that, I think, might be an optimistic assumption. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that that's actually happening. I mean, you look at many indicators. You look at church attendance rates in particular um faith you know belief in god these things are are are plummeting you know exponentially through through the through the years and so yeah that kind of i've heard that theory but that sort of assumes that conservatives are having kids and those kids are remaining conservative and they're having kids

and that you know passing down those values i hope that that happens. But I'm but I think, you know, with your film, for instance, and not just what you're doing, but with the entirety of the Daily Wire is doing and everybody else. I mean, you know, Mug Club had Steven Crowder's thing. They had an undercover journalism release where they caught the COVID czar talking about, let's just say, doing untoward things in violation of COVID lockdowns while locking down everybody else, we've got a large, expansive, right-leaning cultural push that is gaining more and more ground and becoming more and more successful. And so you look at some of the projects that are coming out of Disney, they lose a billion dollars over the last year. You look at The Daily Wire and you guys are kings of the castle right now. I mean, it's crazy how quickly you're growing. And on this track, you do have the cultural values growing alongside basic reproduction. So even in the instance where some conservative parents don't properly pass down those conservative values,

when it comes to young men, they're overwhelmingly, and Gen Z, they're shifting towards the right towards Donald Trump. They're going to be watching your comedy films and they're going to get their values from Jordan Peterson. And I think that is, is, is the, that combined with fertility rate. And I, people, I know the left is going to lose their mind over me, bring that up. But I think that shows a positive upward trend in favor of the right as opposed to the left. Yeah, I think you're right. And that also speaks to the importance of kind of a lot of what we're trying to do with Daily Wire, but not just us.

Look, art forms culture. And so there is no culture war. Like, we're not even fighting a culture war if we're not trying to create art. And that means movies, films shows music um and and for so long we kind of bowed out of that almost completely except in our own little silos where we're making stuff just for us but as long as you're doing that there is there is no meaningful culture where that like this this is the culture war um and if you're not doing that then you're not fighting it and so uh for this to make a meaningful difference then we need to see a lot more of that. So, yeah, I saw that Twitter thread I was talking

about in my morning show the other day, where you mentioned all these different companies were refusing to review the film. And we brought it up. And they did the same thing to us when we released a song two years ago. And we've released six songs now. And it's all blacklisted. Not only is it blacklisted, but I don't want to say too much because we have another song coming out next week and we're going to try and... We all... You know, you guys hit Rotten Tomatoes.

You guys are our top box office film. We also want to see that cultural success, but we do know that we are invading far-left woke institutions playing by the rules that they've set up and it pisses them off. So you've got to try and, I guess what, like weasel your way through and put pressure on them and force them to acknowledge it and take those institutions back.

Yeah, that's the, and I mean, I don't know in the music industry, I can only imagine how, how stacked against you it is. We are in the film industry, we're only just sort of beginning to experience the obstacles that they can put up in your path. Because it is different when you're making stuff like this and you're putting it on a platform like on Daily Wire platform. I mean, that's important to do also. But when you, it's like the left is, they don't love that. They prefer if we weren't doing anything at all. But they're okay with that if you keep it in your own little lane. But if you take your stuff and you try to bring it out to a mass audience, that's what makes them very angry.

And the problem is that they, all the, you know, we hear the term gatekeeper from the left all the time, usually in erroneous ways. But this is where gatekeeping is real. Like they have all the gatekeepers for this stuff. They control all of that or almost all of it. And so, you know, it's one of those, I've been saying, it's like, it's like sometimes you don't know how high the mountain is until you start climbing it. And that's kind of what it is when you get into the film industry with theaters and all that. It's like you start to realize, man, they really own this institution completely. And you got to, it is kind of an insurgent. Yep. It's an insurgency. And it's manufactured in a lot of ways.

They can guarantee the success of certain projects to a certain degree. And music especially. Playlists, which I'm sure you guys are familiar with, and the digital streaming platforms, they'll just say like if you press you know i do this i'll be driving in my car i got a tesla and it's got like you know you'll click modern and there's a band i have never heard of and i'm like interesting not a fan of this band i got no beef i wonder why it's in their latest releases, streaming

playlist. I look the band up. They have no history. They have no successes. They have no charting songs. They're on YouTube. They get a few thousand views. And I'm not trying to rag on small upcoming bands. It's just a question of why does this band get preferential access to digital streaming playlists and other people do not. It's because they fully and wholly control what is going to be mainstream. I'm hanging out at, you know, Seatown Races, the racetrack and casino, and you're walking through this gigantic building and they're playing music. And I hear a song and I'm like, I know what band this is and they are not big. How do they get in rotation at a casino with 50,000 people coming through it every hour or whatever?

It's an owned institution. These labels pick and choose whose song will be played in these mediums that people will hear. And if you are outside the political realm of these groups or your persona non grata or whatever, they're just going to say, what's that? You're a chart topping song with record sales and you're getting tons of hits and people really like the song. We are going to blacklist you, block you, mock you and try to make sure you never get a foothold in this industry. It's kind of amazing that Kamala Harris can run a I'm the underdog campaign, knowing that she has the full support of institutions like this. Right. That get to say we want these messages to be here and we don't want anything else i mean it's uh i think asking americans to set aside everything they know about how huge corporations work corporations

prefer artists that are somehow under their label they will ultimately benefit from they don't want anyone coming in from the outside especially if they do not agree with their political alignment how much of this is just what people like naturally gravitate towards because i don't know when this happened but it seems like conservatives are just temperamentally less creative and less um i don't know they think outside the box less and that's why they gravitated to creating think tanks instead of movies or music. I think you're right. But let's do this. We'll answer this point you're making by talking about this story. We have this from the Post Millennial.

Marvel's new queer series, Agatha All Along, to be, quote, gay explosion. The show has a lot of layers and gay is one of them. I don't know why or what the point is, but it's a new show on Disney+. It came out the other day. Agatha all along is following the series WandaVision. It's a miniseries. And Post Malone, you're incorrect. It was released yesterday, not on 25th.

They put up two episodes. And it's about Agatha as a witch. She lost her powers. Wanda from Avengers took them from her. And of course, when they do a show like this, here's what they have to say about it. Quote, witches are queer inherently just because we are outcasts, we.

And set aside for many reasons. The show shows a really good representation of different types of people and that we can all use the power we have within to go forward and be great. I've always looked up to Wanda Sykes as another black queer woman in comedy. Living her truth is really inspiring and awesome. Disney has decided to make shows that are overt in their politics, much like conservatives did with their old

Christian films that people used to make fun of. It seems like when the left decided to adopt what we refer to as non-theistic religion or secular religion. They've begun to fall into the old traps that the old Christian conservatives would fall into of making preachy, over-the-top ideological content instead of making simple comedy with the message being underneath or passive. Now, Disney's lost a billion dollars on a bunch of their movies. The Marvel movies are doing worse and worse in the box office. Captain Marvel, talk about a nightmarish mistake. You got Robert Downey Jr., who is, you know, the multi, you know, the $20 million guy or whatever. They're paying him $20 million for these movies, $60 million for these movies. He's going to retire and they say

Brie Larson is going to be the new linchpin of the Marvel universe. She's a girl boss who's insufferable that everybody hates. Her movie fails. I mean, don't get me wrong. Captain Marvel, the film did well. Then they make a sequel to it. The Marvels, it bombs.

They try cutting the film down desperate to do something with it. They have not learned their lesson. Or actually, here's my question for you guys. Does Disney actually know they're going to burn all their money doing this, but they're learned their lesson or actually here's my question for you guys does disney actually know they're gonna burn all their money doing this but they're cultish communist zealots and they're gonna keep doing it anyway yeah i think some of it is what we talked about they're putting the message before uh before the quality of the art um i think also it's just it's a it's it's a little bit of what mary was just saying

about historically the problem with conservatives is just yeah you know you have the institutions that are stopping us and all of that kind of thing and that's true but also just there aren't as many conservatives who have the ability to be creative in that way and um and i think that now on the left they're suffering from the same problem and so at a in a company like disney i just they just might not have they might not realize that this stuff sucks i mean they they might not have the talent and i don't think they have the artistic right they might not have the artistic talent and sensibilities to even know how to make something that's good i mean which was which was never, say what you want about Disney historically,

but they used to create, obviously, like masterpieces of their genre. And I'm not sure they even have the ability to do that now, even if you take the politics outside of it. I think it's because they're overstaffed with people who think the same way. When I went to CPAC in like 2012, I was, I think in high school,

maybe a little bit younger. And I remember at the time, the Batman movie had come out and there was a big talk about like, what's the messaging behind this is actually a conservative movie. And I remember one of the speakers said, you know, parents, if you have kids who are trying to decide what they want to do, don't send them to DC. If you want them to have an impact on America, send them to Hollywood. And you know, it's like, well Hollywood is a terrible place where horrible things happen and they don't

share, you know, good values. But it just made it so all of the writers who are rising through the ranks who eventually get a seat at these tables were completely bent in one direction. We sort of if you're a conservative, you sort of self-selected out of this industry because you decided it was lost, but therefore it became more lost. And you have a bunch of people looking at each other being like, I think this is a good idea. And Etsy sells a lot of queer witch products. So clearly somebody's buying this stuff. There's no barometer for normalcy.

Well, I was hilarious about parents being like, OK, well, I can't send my kids to Hollywood. You know, that that's Sodom. So they're like, well, let's send it to the moral bastion that is D.C. That'll that'll take care of them. It'll keep them. Well, so i have a question for you guys uh were you always or well i don't know about you but ben how do you done are you are you conservative christian slightly to the right of gangas khan oh okay okay just a little bit yeah uh have you guys always been conservative christian right-leaning etc i i have yeah that's how i was raised because i wasn't

wasn't michael Michael Knowles like a liberal when he was younger and now he's much more, I don't know, stoic and Catholic. That guy's still a lib. No, yeah, I think he talks about how he kind of fell out of the faith and came back. I just wonder if what we're seeing is that there are, you know, the people like Mary mentions, the conservatives traditionally don't think outside the box. But you end up with a lot of middle of the road types who normally identified as more liberal because there was more outside the box thinking and creativity. And now they're all death cultists who have lost their minds. And so the middle of the road people have aligned themselves with conservatives, giving that creative, creative, the creativity and the creative force to the right. That's why you're seeing woke, psychotic, gay explosion TV shows

that burn billions of dollars. And on the right, you're seeing an increasing talent pool and more and more success. Justin Folk has talked about this a lot, where he refers to all of us as just the new punk rock, the new counterculture. You know, we're the ones raging against the machine while Rage the Machine is doing concerts. Raging on behalf of the machine. Well, exactly. Sponsored by, you know, Big Pharma. So I do think there is going to continue to be a shift where people who are, you know,

questioning the, not just the regime, but just where we've gotten to in a cultural standpoint, will be finding themselves aligned with conservative messaging and conservative values more often. So I do think there is a chance that we'll be able to have a new generation of, quote unquote, conservative artists, which is probably an oxymoron. That also requires us, though, to cultivate artistic talent on the right, which I think that we still are, we're in the infancy of figuring out, I mean, broadly, when I say we, I mean, conservatives are in the early days of figuring out how to do that. And we haven't been very good at that in the past. And, and because, you know, what ends up, as you said, typically, if you're conservative, and you want to change the culture in some way, you go to a think tank. and now it's like you start a podcast nothing against podcasts obviously it's what i do every

day but you get into the commentary space and i still think that there's a lot of uh and there's there's a definitely a place for that as i said as someone who does it there's a place for commentary but i think that there's still probably a lot of creative talent on the right that's being kind of wasted on this, on just offering commentary. And no one's coming along and saying, look, you have a real, like, you have something else you can do. And we're going to help. We're going to fund you. We're going to help you figure out how to do it. I completely agree.

I mean, look at the Daily Wire, for instance. Wasting Ben Shapiro's talents. That guy should be playing violin in concerts and orchestras. No, he could, though. I mean, the dude's really good at it. And he's also a best-selling rap artist, as we know. That is excellent. But, you know, I'm curious what you think, Mary.

You're younger, and you're mentioning this, like, you know, conservatives don't think outside the box. I'm wondering if you're seeing younger people who lean right having more creativity than you'd expect or something like that honestly what's been on my mind lately is like maybe i'm not a conservative i know i'm right wing but i think that progressives and conservatives kind of think the same way where they see history in this linear sense where we're either ascending toward progress or we're descending into dystopian hellscape and we're either going to create that dystopia or comment on it from the sidelines and like maybe there needs to be some kind of rise of a right-wing progressivism

what does that mean explain it i don't know what label to put on it, but people who care about innovating, people who care about creating and adapting. That's what conservatives have proven themselves incapable of doing, is adapting to the current circumstances. Do you mean like retaining moral foundations

in you know, like I don't necessarily want to say Judeo-Christian, but around that. It's, what do you mean by right-wing? It's something I want to draw attention to, actually. Last year, I went to a music festival that's called Catholicpalooza. Have you heard of this?

Uh-oh. It sounds terrible, but tell me more. It sounds like Lollapalooza, but Catholic. Yeah, that's why it sounds terrible is it better there was a second iteration of it earlier this year in New Jersey and I didn't get to go to that one but they brought in a bunch of these Catholic independent musicians and had them perform in front of an audience of young Catholic people and they were normal. They were actually normal young people and I know it sounds really nerdy and it sounds bad. Yes the music was good.

Like metal versions of Ave Maria they actually had some... Yeah there's this post-punk act named Hallowed who headlined last year and he's really talented so big shout out to him but But it genuinely wasn't a cringe fest. And I know that might sound shocking to the audience listening right now, but yeah, I think there is something bubbling up with young creative people who actually have morals. And not to get off on kind of a tangent, so the music at this festival,

was it all Catholic music in the sense that it was about religion and about Catholicism and about God? Were they also performing songs about other things? It was a mix. It was a mix of both. This is one thing, and I don't follow Christian music. I've never listened to it that much. But one of my complaints about Christian music typically is, first of all, I think often it's just not very good. But also there's this idea that if you're making Christian music, it always has to be about Jesus explicitly. Which, nothing wrong with singing praises to Jesus, don't get me wrong. But if you perform a song about anything that's true and beautiful it is christian in a sense and and so we also want music that's about like the whole scope of human existence i mean

there were songs about like suffering like that's a universal concept that people can relate to it wasn't just like you know the kind of christ Christian rock concert that you're thinking of in a megachurch and like a strip mall. You know what I mean? Go back in time. Look at lyrics from the 40s, 50s, 60s. Christian themes in music was ubiquitous. normal for a pop song not to overtly praise Jesus, but to passively mention something like, you're listening to a song and they mention, I was leaving church on Sunday when I saw my friend, and it's not that it's a Christian song, but elements of Christianity and the social practices

were ingrained in the culture, as they were, and this came out in music. Moving forward, you get to the 90s, I will say you had bands like Creed, which were massive, and they're not overtly in their big hits singing, you know, praise Jesus, but higher, you know, the song is clearly about, can you take me higher, a better place, a better world, a world he dreams of, and then with arms wide open about having a kid, and, you know, the joy that he feels from it, these things are still in line with that same moral worldview. And that was like a massive, you know, multi-platinum band at the time. Now, music is degenerate,

evil, satanic. You know, just, sorry. Even in the 2000s, there was like a huge surge of like Christian metalcore. Yeah, Korn. That kind of... Korn was Christian?

Was it Korn Christian? I don't know about Korn specifically. I don't know about that because the song Got the Life, he's saying, you know, God told me I already got the life. For Today, Memphis Mayfire. I don't know if anybody in the chat is going to know the examples that I'm saying.

Was Korn Christian though? Paramore originally, like Hayley Williams, was an outspoken Christian. She has a cross tattoo. Flyleaf as well. Guitarist from Korn is Christian. Yeah, I think they're Christian now. I think those guys are Christian now, I believe.

I want more guitarists. There's a revolver that says, in 2021, that said, am I still Christian? So there's obviously some kind of influence in the band. I mean, I think that is one of the distinctions. Like, do you have to be always singing about, like, here is the Bible verse, and here is exactly what you should be saying? You don't. Do you have to be always singing about like, here is the Bible verse and here is exactly what you should be saying? Or are you just a Christian who then lives life and operates their business in a way that reflects that? Here's the issue, though.

You know, you mentioned bands like Paramore. I mean, they're woke. They kind of shrugged off that identity relatively quickly when it became. Did they ever actually have it? And the argument we hear from a lot of these individuals is that uh christianity can be inclusive you go to uh shepherdstown in west virginia west virginia and the churches have pride flags and trans flags and it's like well that's a wholly different ideology like by all means go have your ideology go believe whatever you want to believe just leave leave me alone. But the Christian faith

does not co-exist. Like, it's oil and water. You can't put them in the same... Yeah, that doesn't exist. There's no such thing as a pro-trans Christianity, pro-abortion Christianity. You're watching churches

splinter over this, right? Like, the Episcopalian Church is having a big issue with this. The Methodist Church is splitting over this issue. And so I think that there is sort of, maybe not we're talking about with a conservative progressivism, but I think there is sort of a renaissance of what are conservative values in America, what are American traditions that we

want to carry on? How do we define ourselves? And I think actually art is a really big key to this. Like if you have young people who are saying, I want to live by these values, which we would normally ascribe as being maybe more socially conservative or whatever else. And they're the ones also saying, well, I am now creating the paintings and I am now creating the movies and I am now creating the board games or whatever of these like tokens of culture we need to sort of have without having to always say there's a Bible verse on literally everything. I think you will see a big change. But it's incremental over time. And right now, when you talk about Hollywood, yes, I think there should be young filmmakers

who don't just have the same ideology. On the other hand, does that mean that we have to have an outside Hollywood where they go? Or do they go in to the institutions and say, well, I'm here and you have to deal with me? It's hard to say because otherwise it is difficult to get funding as a young creative. You have to go somewhere, you have to support yourself. You need someone to back your art for you to be able to make it. Yeah. I mean, one of the issues too, though, is when we talk about, you know, Christian art doesn't always have to be explicitly announcing itself as such.

But one of the issues, this is also one of the challenges you have as a conservative or a Christian trying to make any kind of art, you know, any kind of art form is that there's some, there's a kind of loud voice within the conservative audience that only, that gets very angry if you try to do anything that is not painting within kind of the lines that have been established. And we, um, we ran into that with both movies. I mean, I remember what is a woman, there was a big controversy among some particular Christian commentators, uh, with that movie because they were mad that at the end of the film, we did not have a gospel message that they wanted. You know, I go in the end of that movie, I go in and and talk to alissa my wife to find out the answer to what is a woman and they wanted her to like pull out the bible and quote it to me and uh and because she didn't they thought that ultimately the movie was a miss and um you're running to the same thing now with this movie and there are people that are someone wrote an op-ed about it saying that you were using deception. Yeah. Yeah. There's a, there's some Christian commentators and there's an op-ed and I think it's world, the website world, where they were, yeah, they were saying that we used deceptive tactics

and so it's immoral and unethical and, you know, they liked the movie, but, but it's interesting because they say they liked the movie, but really it shouldn't exist because it's founded in this evil premise of using deception. But again, we run into this thing where you have some in the audience that, you know, you try to go outside of the lines a little bit and do something, you know, a little bit provocative, perhaps. And there are some in the audience that just are not. They don't want that. They're very resistant to it. We're going to go to super chats. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like

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you can watch the members only show. Maybe people are asking me to debate you on the death penalty. Are you pro death penalty? I am. All right. Then we'll, we'll, we'll debate.

We'll debate. And I'm right. So, you know, we'll, we'll see. Um, Shane H.

I think actually it could be a really interesting conversation. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Shane H. Wilder says, Matt, I loved, am I racist? It was a masterpiece. Hi, Tim, Mary, Ian, Hannah, Claire, Raymond,

Cashman, Brett, and Serge. Did I get everybody this time? Kellen. You missed Kellen. How dare you? I'm kidding. Kyle says, Matt, Am I Racist? is a masterpiece. One of my favorite parts was when you moved number two's magnet to eight. I think it'd be hilarious if you put out your own DEI course with a certificate. You mentioned the website, though. Is that a real site that you guys made? I just went to it, dotheworkworkshop.com. Yeah, it's a real site.

This is affiliated with you, or it's just... Oh, yeah, that's ours. Oh, that's my workshop. Unless somebody stole it. Do you over-smile? If you're guilty of over-smiling, we invite you to take our two-hour intensive course at a theater near you.

Wait, can we show that? I'm ready to begin my journey. I hope some under and over-smiling from everyone at this table. Yeah, I think you... You're going to hand out report cards after this, right? Yeah, you guys are being graded. Can we pull this up real quick?

Just that I loved this chart you used. You are racist, but how racist are you? Who's this? Is that Jussie? I believe that's George Floyd. George Floyd? That's not George Floyd. Is that not George Floyd? That looks like Jussie Smollett. And then this is Rachel Dolezal.

It'd be really funny if that was George Floyd. Abraham Lincoln, Donald Trump, and a Klan hut. That's Jussie Smollett, by the way. Yeah, he's a zero. Yeah. My favorite thing was the over smiling thing. There you go. That's the face.

When that face appeared, everyone just started busting out laughing. Over smiling is racist. Very good. All right. All right. Let's grab some more. Peter Gohawk says, watched almost every episode for the last four years,

and I'm a member. It would be great if you guys could get Jesse on fire or Sean Ryan on your show. Keep up the great job. Fight, fight, fight again. So, you know, we did this thing where I said, one like equals one fight, fight, fight, because that's what Trump said.

And then they tried to kill him again, so now I put fight, fight, fight again. I can't believe it. I mean, jeez. Fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight. I know. I got it right six times. I don't know if that'll fit.

I think let me get my shoes should become a slogan. The fact that he was like, you cannot pull me off this stage without my shoes was just sort of iconic. Yeah. Wrath of Paul says, I am a teamster and I don't know of anyone in my workplace who supports Harris. That's good news. Good news.

Let's grab some more. Multiracial Lions has met. Did you film the stunts yourself in the fight scene as part of doing the work? Are you the new Jackie Chan? Three times fight squared. Well, I got to say, yeah, I mean, that was my first time filming any kind of fight scene, and it wasn't much of a fight. But I will say, I want to take credit for one thing.

That whole scene, I take no credit for it. It was one of our producers, Mike, had the whole concept for that scene. But punching my attacker with the Subway sandwich was my idea, was my inspiration. And I think it makes the whole movie. It's the greatest movie. I don't know if it's spoiling if you explain to people what you're referring to or would you rather just let people go see it

and figure it out for themselves? I guess I'll let them go see it. Yeah. Amiracist.com. You can go there right now. I mean, surprisingly, it's like in every single theater by us. There's a couple of small theaters it's not playing at, but all the big ones have it. So it was not even, you know,

it's when we got dinner and then we pulled up to the theater and there it was. But they didn't have the big poster like they should have. You know, they should have that big thing on the wall, I want to see Matt Walsh's face. But they didn't do it. But whatever. They're trying to not acknowledge it again.

But actually, I have a question for you. Was there pushback from big theaters when you guys, because weren't you initially doing a smaller run in theaters and then it got upgraded? Actually, there was not pushback from the big theater chains, which was nice. I mean, I actually give them a lot of credit for taking the film. The only pushback was not about the content of the film.

It was because it's a documentary. And so they said, look, documentaries do nothing in the box office they the people do not come out and watch them they don't even chart um and so we had to kind of prove with pre-sales that there's an audience for this thing and so we went from 200 screens i think to 1500 yeah and it's a comedy it's like it's not really a documentary and then you guys ended up getting what number three yeah we Yeah, we'll call it. It was really number four. I think we're number three right now. We are number three right now, currently, today. Oh, let's, maybe I can look up.

Unless we went back to number four. We were doing this with, how do you, Box Office Mojo, is that it? Yeah. Where they show, oh, look at that. Latest dailies, you are currently number three. Yeah. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice has you crushed. And then for the weekend, you were number four. Yeah, but today

you were number three. Number three, man. You know, Deadpool and Wolverine, they don't care. They don't count. They've been out too long. They don't count. That is kind of crazy they've been out so long. I enjoyed it. What's the... Okay, yeah, well, you're currently number three. We'll see what happens next weekend. Everybody should bring

their friends and family to go see it. I feel like in terms of people who, here's what I think is great about this. One of the things we talk about here with building culture, at our other location where we have the smaller skate park,

we have a Gadsden flag hanging up. I never, whenever we film the skateboard stuff, there's no politics in it. We don't have any of our skateboarders say, woo, go Trump. That's ridiculous's ridiculous but the point is we as individuals producing content someone might enjoy and with american icons and flags like the gadsden flag i want there to be some young guy who likes watching our videos and doesn't care about politics and he sees that flag and then one day someone says hey that flag's like racist i'm like what are you talking about that's stupid like i'm

just watching skateboarding dude these guys are cool we want to just normalize american imagery and normal things without preaching to people you know yeah so i think i think that the reason i bring that up is you bring your friends and family to go see am i racist and what that does is it introduces people to matt walsh outside of a political context an overt political context like if someone took a clip from you where you're saying you know transgender and gender ideology is these are wrong ideas they're bad they don't match with christianity and i'm voting for trump you send it to your your your passively liberal aunt or whatever and she's going to be like oh white

supremacy but you bring some family members to watch a comedy film they want watch matt walsh they say this guy's hilarious this is really funny he spilled the he spilled the plates uh this guy's making jokes later on they're gonna be like oh i like that guy he's funny they're more likely to watch and be receptive to other things you may do could not agree more i think that's exactly the right approach yeah let's grab some more western body says sound like sounds like a start to a zombie novel where trump was implied to be turned into a zombie i don't remember what that was in reference to so probably the chemical attack oh right right right indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed i still think it's you know if it's if it's not legitimate then i think it's it's rumors created to make

people not go to his rallies i think there is a fear of people seeing Trump in person and being, like, converted. I hope it's that, because there's going to be a Streisand effect and more people are just... Well, obviously, I don't want people to suffer. Like, if you're getting poured chemicals on you, that's not a good sign.

FTR says, First super chat ever. At this point, who will have taken the most L's by the end of 2024? Trump assassins or Florida State football team? Who's that? I'm not a football guy. Are you a football guy? I'm a football guy, but I don't follow college football.

Professional football. I saw a funny meme where it was like a guy banging on the ground crying, and it was like the 19-year-olds that compete for my favorite college are losing, or something like that. I was like, okay, well, I guess, is that a bad thing? It is.

I admit that it feels like a fundamentally absurd thing to care about sports. And, you know, I watch the NFL. I watch the Ravens. They're my team. I get very emotionally invested if they lose. The Ravens are your team? Yeah, Baltimore. Because I'm from Baltimore.

You're from Baltimore? Yeah. Oh, wow. And they've lost twice now this year. And I get, like, really sad. And they've lost twice now this year, and I get really sad. And then I think to myself, why am I sad? These are millionaires playing a game 500 miles away from me. Why is this making me sad that they lost?

It means nothing to my life. I don't know, but it does. Where we are now, this is Ravens country. Most people out here are big Ravens fans. Yeah. Because we're like an hour from Baltimore. I would have thought Redskins, so that's interesting. I think there are Redskins fans, but they're pretty mad about the brand

change. Commanders. Sorry. I know that. Look, it's always Redskins to me, just like it's always Twitter to me. Sorry, Elon. Yeah. So, you know, I have heard a lot when I go play at the poker tables. Usually guys are like, I was a big Redskins fan, but then they complain about woke and they

complain about why they did it. It's like some guys will just still, they'll still wear the Redskins shirts and they're fans. But I would say absolutely, Commanders are big out here. At Maryland Live, which is basically Baltimore, they were doing a promo where

whenever the Commanders or the Ravens scored a touchdown last weekend, you would earn free stuff, you know, or something like that. So out here, these are those two teams, but I run or the Ravens scored a touchdown last weekend, you would earn free stuff or something like that. So out here, these are those two teams. But I run into more Ravens people than Commanders. All right. Trace Venturas is a big fan of you, Matt. I plan on watching Am I Racist soon?

The closest showing is 150 miles away. It's worth every gallon of gas. Keep up the good work, TimCast crew. 150 miles. Don't make excuses. Is there a plan to put it on Daily Wire Plus? Worth every gallon of gas. Keep up the good work. Tim cast crew. Yeah. 150 miles. Don't make excuses. Is there a plan to put it on daily wire plus? There's a,

you know, once, once the theatrical is done, it's, it'll be, it'll be like normal rotation, like movies. It's, it's,

it's not going to disappear into the ether. I guess. Right. I just, I would just say you got to see in theaters. I don't know. You know, it was,

you know what I really, really loved was actually I'm in a theater that is full. and when everyone else is laughing, it feels good, man. It feels good to know that in DC, which is a liberal stronghold, there are people who agree with me on these things. And so I'm sitting in the front and I hear all this laughter and it makes you feel like, you know, we're not losing. We are right. I think one of the challenges we face, this one kind of brings me down, is that a lot of people are scared to speak up and call it the BS. But when they're all sitting down in that theater in D.C. and they're laughing at the same thing, you know that they agree with you. And that feels good.

And I assume people who are supportive of your work, it's better for you if they show up in theater because you're saying pre-sales or if you want to release another movie in the future you can point to a body of work and said look we had this many thousands of people a hundred percent and it tim's right that it's uh i think it's a theatrical movie it's best experienced in theaters and then also um you know the cultural impact of staying in theaters and having sustained success in theaters is like, it cannot be overstated. So we would ask people to watch in theaters. Stanley Kong says, thank you for making Am I Racist, Matt? My wife and I drove the 70 miles from Canada to watch it in the US. I would like to hear what Matt thinks about Tim's island idea in place of the death penalty. Perhaps we'll have this conversation in 10 minutes.

Okay. What is your, okay. I guess you'll tell me your island idea. I don't know. The island. Uh-huh. And I'm serious, completely serious about it, but we'll grab super chats and then we'll talk. And I think you made a comment a while, like a year or two ago, about my views on the death penalty, though.

I think you had said something like you didn't agree, but you sort of agreed. Maybe we'll have to redo it. Are we going to pull tweets? Are we going to check what the... No, it was on your show. I think something happened where... I can't remember exactly what it was, but I'm pretty sure you made a comment about my views on the death penalty.

I think I did, because you were talking about it, maybe. Yeah, and it wasn't overt agreement, but it wasn't outright disagreement. I can't really remember. It's been a long time, but we'll get into it. We'll get into it. All right. Stinky Whistle Teets, love the name, says's an article written august 30th before the second attempt on trump's life that connected one maxwell yurik who some claim was the real trump rally shooter

making payments to ryan ruth weird i don't know anything about that guys um you can't really comment on it but it sounds a little out there if if you ask me. It seems a little, I don't know, not correct, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. Greg Duvier says Joe Rogan turned Matt Walsh into a moon landing denier. Oh, no, he didn't. Look, well, Joe is not even committed to denying the moon landing, so he never, we debated it for like an hour, and he never said that he doesn't, he didn't say he doesn't think it happens

he's open to the idea but I'm firmly I was going in and I'm still a firm believer in the moon landing and a fan of the moon landing. It's one of our greatest achievements. And I think it unified the country right? I mean so many people tuned in to watch it and felt like we had accomplished something.

You mean the Joe Rogan episode with me? Yes that is always what I'm talking about. No, I meant the moon landing, but I'm sure this, Am I Racist, it's unifying the country too. Exactly. Eric Rafko says, Am I Racist is the funniest movie I've seen in years. Laughing to tears, going again tomorrow and bringing others. Can we look forward to another sequel?

A threequel? You know, I do like things in threes so you never know you never know what could happen are there are there any uh potential subjects you've been thinking about that you can say without spoiling anything there are subjects i've thought of about all right we'll keep it a secret i can say that keep it a secret keep it a secret all right here we go lv says hi matt thanks for the movie some scenes were so hard to watch you could hear everyone's reaction very good very good very fun

Katrina Miles says I am cabin and I would go insane without my I am cabin cayenne salt pepper garlicky and onion powder and all other seasonings and hot sauce I just dump garlic on everything the whole bottle of garlic powder. There's no such thing

as too much garlic. Whole garlic cloves just right in there. You gotta go with the fresh garlic because the garlic powder is... You have to use like 10 tablespoons to get any garlic flavor out of it. Oh yeah. You know what I like? I like pizza with whole garlic on the top. Just the garlic cloves or whatever. You bake

it and then it becomes soft. Not to mention, anybody who's had a good steak, and they gave you the black garlic, what do they do? They like to torch to it. And then you, man, that's great. Well, when we're debating the death penalty, I'll explain why you should probably get the death penalty for that. For putting garlic on my steak?

For baking garlic. No, baking garlic on your pizza, you just said. Oh, jeez, are you nuts? That's the greatest thing ever. Matt, do you know what giardiniera is no you see blasphemy i'm from chicago and i'll tell you okay i'll tell you and chicago deep dish pizza is awful by the way i agree okay that's not what chicagoans eat that's tourist pizza in chicago we have what's called square cut tavern style thin crust it's uh it's a pizza that's cut into squares it's got little triangle corners everybody grew up with that we know it and me personally i love giardiniera pizza okay but you

guys don't know what that is because you're uncultured but it's okay i'm not mad at you for it i've done enough episodes of this show to know what it is we did right matt to uh to try a chicago handshake what what is that well apparently this is the thing that I did. It's a glass of Malort with an old style. Oh, okay, okay. That's what that is. You had Malort? It's like motor oil, basically. The joke is that Malort is made from the grass growing on the side of I-55.

Tastes like it, too. Okay, my only thing about the garlic is you're turning the pizza into nothing but a delivery mechanism for garlic. But you can't do that. I object. I don't like when people do that with their food. It's like when you put so much hot sauce on it. Like, I like hot sauce, too, but now all it is is just hot sauce. I'm not saying it's only garlic.

It's like, when you put pepperoni into pizza, is it only pepperoni now? But if you're baking multiple garlic cloves on one slice? Well, like... The garlic is a very pushy ingredient. Like this four or five little... Next movie on cooking. Next movie

on cooking. I'm telling you, in Chicago, you say, I want garlic baked on my pizza. They do it. It's normal. And it's delicious. This is why Chicago is a disaster. Giardiniera is, it's jalapenos, cauliflower, carrots, and celery in like oil and vinegar.

On pizza? Well, you can put on anything. And so, I would say most commonly you see it put on Italian beef sandwiches. So, what we do in Chicago is you take a French bread, you put Italian beef in it. Then you'll put giardiniera, which is that mix I told you is oily. Then you take the whole thing on tongs and you dip it into a vat of gravy and give a little shake, and that's what you eat. And that's a dipped Italian beef is what we eat.

So I'm sure you've been to Potbelly before. Yeah. They sell it, but they call it hot peppers because most people outside of Chicago don't know what giardiniera is. So they call it hot peppers. That's basically it. And you put it on pizza and it bakes into it and it's delicious. Yeah. I'm fine with the roast beef thing, but you can't put it on the pizza.

The giardiniera mix on pizza? Yeah. No, you don't put that on pizza. What do you put on pizza? Pepperoni? Yes. Can you put a poll in the chat right now? Ask people if they'd rather you talk about

the culinary failures with pizza, like what is okay and what is not, or the death penalty? I feel like these are both contentious issues. Matt's wrong. Matt, how dare you? Tim is always right. Tim has done nothing wrong. It's just everyone's... I can't read that screen right now. No, I think they're saying

Tim's crazy. He shouldn't be putting this garbage on his food or something. But I will tell you this. When I am Supreme Chancellor of the planet, cilantro, fennel, anise, caraway, banned. Illegal. Well, how are you making guacamole without cilantro? I don't. Do you have the gene? Are you a salt person?

Nope. People are like, oh, so I was going to ask that. And I'm like, I don't know what that means. Cilantro tastes like cilantro. It is a distinct, unique flavor, and it's awful. That's how I sounded. I was like, oh, so you had cilantro. That's you.

That's how I talk. That's right. All right. Matthew Martin says, Tim, did you just rip off I Want My City Back from Dickie Barrett's other band? You mean The Defiant? Let's face it. It's better than the impression that I get. Man, what a classic song. Dickie Barrett is amazing. Shout out to Dickie Barrett's other band. You mean the Defiant? Let's face it. It's better than the impression that I get, man. What a classic song. Dickie Barrett is amazing. Shout out to Dickie Barrett and his band, the Defiant. Shout out to Pete Parata. Uh, Pete's that plays

the drums in our new song. So go to buy coming home, pre-order the song. And, uh, you know, see, this is kind of what we're talking about. The songs that we've put out, um, a couple of them are in no way, any way related at all to politics. Together Again, obviously, was kind of a jokey song. We were teaming up with Jeremy and Michael, Smokey Mac and the God King, sorry. And then Only Ever Wanted was really just like the first release we did. We were like, we want no politics. And then I'm sorry, actually, Will of the People was the first. And Will of the People, none of the songs that were put out just say things like, this country is bad for this reason and your ideas are bad for that reason. Will of the People is just telling the story of a guy who grows up, becomes a revolutionary,

creates a revolution, takes the country over, and then is killed as a tyrannical leader by a new revolution. So it's always, you know, we always try to stay away from being overt. This next song we're putting out is clearly political, referencing rioting, destruction, homelessness, so it's always you know we always we always try to stay away from being overt uh this next time we're putting out is clearly political referencing rioting destruction homelessness failed policies we don't say it it's just literally saying i'm coming home and i see all this stuff around me how has it gotten to this point and it's meant to be for anybody who feels that way all right goblin d says matt love what you do when will your movie be available on the Daily Wire? Me and the wife would love to watch it in a theater, but we have a one-year-old, so no fun for us. Yeah, we don't have timelines on that stuff right now. But like I said,

when it's out of theaters, it's not going to disappear. Can I also say that if you have a one-year-old child, it's actually essential that you go see this in theaters. And you'll see this in a scene with a lovely lady named Kate Slater. But it's never, never too early to start the anti-racist work, especially with children under the age of three. It's very urgent. When she talks about white princesses,

but then you mention your daughter likes Moana, and it creates a paradox, and her brain gets a dial tone people got to go see that movie to understand I don't want to spoil too much but I'm just like you you got to see it's good all right Josh oh my gosh says hey Matt my boss at work is a democrat that doesn't like you I saw your movie and I loved it can you do a shout out for for my my favorite boss Josh or my Josh favorite boss, so I can show him, I bet October's surprise will be a false flag attempt on Harris. Okay, I think he's asking you to say shout out to Josh's boss.

Go see the film. Is this Josh or is this his boss? Josh is his name and he wants you to shout out his boss. Hey, Josh's boss, stop being an asshole. He's going gonna love you now alright we'll grab a couple more here let's see what we got we got some fun

Zero says Matt can you make your DEI class available online I'd love to add it to my resume yeah well we have the workshop up there and we're looking at other material we can get up to really get the message out. So we're kind of working on that now. So when you got certified, was that also your guys' project, or was that a legitimate website where you could get certified for DEI?

I mean, the word legitimate is pretty strong, but it's a website that is not ours. It's an actual website that exists in the world, and we used it to get our card. Okay, wow. I have friends who are ordained ministers for the purpose of performing weddings, and it's like they went to a website, clicked three buttons, and paid five bucks, and then, you know. Yeah, in fact, I'll admit a little behind the scenes. I didn't even take the course. We had a producer do it.

Did you do it? No, no. That was someone else. Someone went and took the course and gave me the card. So you're a liar. They're committing fraud. This third party should sue. You know, the person who did it, we had a good conversation.

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