Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #117 - LA Democrat Just Violated Human Rights Over COVID, Jack Murphy Joins Us

Episode Date: August 20, 2020

Tim hosts Jack Murphy of the Liminal Order (@jackmurphylive on Twitter and YouTube) and the discussion starts around Eric Garcetti's dictatorial choice to shut off utilities to a partying citizen's ho...use and quickly turns to the siege on DC, and from thence, cancel culture, the pioneering spirit of American forebears, Elizabeth Warren's native American bona fides (or lack thereof) according to the DNC, and the rise of Laura Loomer and the prospect of a right-wing Squad.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 They finally did it. It's not the biggest case of a human rights violation I've ever seen, but I had to say it. LA has authorized the power to be shut off at the home of this dude who was having constant parties, and they said he was violating a public health directive. And that to me is just, it's insane. And this is just another example of what's been happening to cities. I'm just going to say it. I know maybe it's biased, but Democratic run cities. It's been a recurring theme. And you look at Republican states compared to Democrat states. Democrat states are falling apart. And now you've actually got the mayor of Los Angeles saying, I have authorized the city to shut down power to this dude's home. Now, this guy was super rich,
Starting point is 00:00:39 so I get it. We got a bunch of other stories to talk about. We're going to make fun of the DNC because as most of you probably know, the DNc is just insanely awful and i've brought in someone very uh important who can explain a lot of this to us the guy who literally wrote the book on it we got jack murphy how you doing you want to introduce yourself hey tim how's it going man lydia hello nice to see you guys going very well jack murphy jack murphy live jack murphy live.com here i am you literally wrote the book on- Literally. Democrat to deplorable, walking away from the Democratic Party. I brought you a copy. I see.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Oh, snap. Democrat to deplorable, just for you, Tim. In honor. In honor of? Me saying that I'm going to have to vote for Trump. And I have another chachi for you right here, too. There you go. Democrat to deplorable mug.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Here we go. Handy dandy. Thank you very much. Is it clean? It is clean. It is covid free excellent thank you yes wonderful there's some oh my god we're gonna get tim to take a sip out of the mug democrats are deplorable this is there we go this is magical monumental magical sip my
Starting point is 00:01:37 work here is done all right jack thanks for coming to the show and i say so uh awesome no no i mean i mean it literally you literally wrote the book you traveled around the country most many of you might actually know jack because you were the first guest we had on the show back before all this covet stuff happened yep january how crazy have things gotten the whole world has changed but yet it was all so predictable from the jump yeah most people don't realize this that on the show we did we actually sat down and wrote down crystal clear perfect predictions of this year let's see on march 17th donald trump will say these words no i'm just kidding i'm just
Starting point is 00:02:10 kidding it wasn't that perfect but apparently we had we hit a bunch of uh we really did you know and that comes from our experience and you know you and i both have been living this this this antifa this black lives matter thing the networked warfare the politics the insurgencies the blue church the whole thing the resistance yeah we've been living it on the ground you've been you've been there you know frontline i've been experiencing it like as a participant you know getting attacked by antifa having a cop sent to my house like having to testify that i'm not a member of the alt-right all this stuff getting fired like we've been in the grind. So when, you know, back in late winter,
Starting point is 00:02:45 we were talking about what was going to happen this election summer. Yeah, riots. It was pretty obvious what was coming. Man, and I guess someone sent you a list of, like, all of these things we actually. Yep. Yeah, it scares me, actually. Even China and math and stuff and, like, all the things about Black Lives Matter and Antifa and the riots
Starting point is 00:03:03 and the way it was just going to flare up. And we had even noticed that, like, Antifa, Black Lives Matter and Antifa and the riots and the way it was just going to flare up. And we had even noticed that like Antifa, Black Lives Matter had sort of chilled. It was right. It wasn't necessarily in the news all the time rounding out 2019. But we knew with the election coming, you know, it feels like when when the start of COVID happened, all of this, you know, far left woke, whatever started to fizzle away because we had real problems. But what it seems like is that was actually is backed up in the hose. And then eventually the pressure built up and it burst out in this massive spray. And now, you know, school curriculums are getting leaked of this insane woke stuff. They're teaching to like seven year olds. And I, and I've
Starting point is 00:03:38 known this because my niece was, I was showing one of these, you know, fake woke manipulations to my family. My niece goes, oh, I know that picture. They taught us that in school. And I was like, what? She was seven at the time. Yeah, man, it's everywhere. And these are the issues I cover in the book dating back, you know, years and years. And when we used to talk about intersectionality and the way that they were forcing themselves into the universities, people used to just poo poo it as crazy college kids
Starting point is 00:04:05 right that's just crazy college radicals but people ignored the fact that the reason you go to college is to be sort of handed a worldview and to be transformed and sent out into society and the university has been taken over by people whose explicit goal is to transform every student into an activist whose goal is is to destroy the existing order of our country. And now it's been years and years of them pumping these people out. They've been hired in the corporations. The corporations have bent to their expectations.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And now we've got, you know, good year tired telling people that they can wear black lives matter shirt to work, but they can't wear a MAGA hat. They, they partially disavowed that. I read that thing. I read it. I pars parsed it it said that they didn't make that image
Starting point is 00:04:48 it doesn't mean anything it doesn't didn't mean anything they didn't actually say what it was exactly right because what it was was something that they probably sent around to everybody in their own company so we we've got a bunch of stuff we can talk about for sure and especially what what happened in LA you know so we'll get started we're talking about these democrat cities now let's do it but you know i i think all of this woke stuff isn't is becoming like you mentioned they entered the corporations and then all of a sudden once they had the numbers it activated but it's in government it's in the military it's in the cdc and so my my my worry is that they've gained so much ground already in mainstream TV and brands, corporations and government that regular people are already too scared to do anything about it. Maybe, though, the silent majority will rise up and go and vote, you know, straight Republican or something, and that'll push out all of this insanity. And that's kind of where I find myself, not as someone who like sees myself in Trump or sees what he's doing as something where I'm like
Starting point is 00:05:49 this, you know, we must do it. Actually, I'll take that back. There's one thing when Trump tried to pull out of Afghanistan, I was like, I'm going to go for that guy. Like, because I didn't ask him to do it and he's going to do it. I want that to happen. Right. Right. But I think this, the best thing, the best chance we have would be Republicans taking everything so that we can get Section 230 reform, hopefully antitrust. But I don't trust the Republicans either, to be honest. I think Trump is very different, but I'm not even convinced the Republicans will do anything. I think they're going to do nothings.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Well, Heather Heng and Brett Weinstein, they talk on their podcast a lot about the institutional takeover and the co-opting of all these various fields, right? So it's not just intersectionalities in the university or in the government. It's in like each individual specific academic field. It's in mental health. It's now creeping into physical health. James Lindsay is dealing with it, talking about it, being in math. Two plus two is five? I can't believe this. No, it's insane. So it's actually literally everywhere. And when I would talk about intersectionality back in like 2016, people around me, people I loved and respect, they all told me I was insane. No one would ever adopt it. You're talking about something that's just crazy and arcane and no one really cares about it. But we saw the trajectory and it's continuing to go. And so one of the things that I voted for Trump in the first place was for Title nine reform, because Title nine is the place where intersectionality really was able to flourish
Starting point is 00:07:09 through that through that corridor in the universities. And so when when I voted for him, I wanted him to do that to remedy that. And he took some really, you know, positive steps forward with Betsy DeVos and reform there. So it's going to take a lot more, though, even if there's a straight Republican landslide, which I don't think is going to happen. It's still going to take years, maybe even decades, I think. Totally. So let's do this. If you're just tuning in, make sure you smash the like button, hit the subscribe, hit the notification bell. And if you want to hop in the super chats at around 930, we jump over to the super chats, try and grab as many as we can. And so we're going to talk about a couple of these things. The first thing we got to talk about, man, and this can
Starting point is 00:07:47 be a part of just Democrat cities in general, but this to me is one of the most nightmarish and shocking things I've ever seen an American politician do in my life. And maybe that's just my naivety because I'm 34. Maybe something happened at some point. I guess we had politicians literally shoot each other a couple hundred years ago. So mayor authorizes city to shut, shut off power at Hollywood Hills party house, reportedly belonging to TikTok star Bryce Hall. Despite several warnings, this house has turned into a nightclub in the Hills, hosting large gatherings in flagrant violation of our public health orders, Garcetti said. So that's, that's, that's just the story. Look at this. He says, with more than 2,000 Angelenos
Starting point is 00:08:25 and over 170,000 Americans lost to COVID-19, we need every resident to undertake critical safeguards to stop the spread of this virus. That includes not hosting or attending parties that put themselves, their neighbors, and many others at risk. Despite several warnings, the house turned into a nightclub. The city has now disconnected utilities at this home to stop these parties that endanger our community. If we wish to reopen more businesses, return our kids to school, or get back to our normal lives, we must continue to wear masks, wash our hands frequently, and as we're emphasizing today, avoid gathering with others. All of these actions save lives. Sure. Actually, the dude put out a TikTok. It's kind of funny. He posted TikTok
Starting point is 00:09:05 Wednesday to the song Electric Love because it looks like the power is out. I'm just going to say I'm not super concerned about a rich dude who owns multiple houses and wants to have big parties in the hills. My concern is the precedent being set where the mayor did this and no one said anything. And you're never going to see a politician walk out and say, I'm going to violate human rights. It's going to start with this. Everyone's going to say that's OK. The next day, he's going to say, well, what about this celebrity? That's OK. Within a month, he's going to be like this small family, you know, this middle middle class family. We're turning your power off next. They shouldn't have the ability to arbitrarily shut off someone's utilities.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And I think this is this this story hits at several things. One mismanagement of cities predominantly run by Democrats and the authoritarianism that's emerged since covid where they think they can do anything. And to be honest, nobody's stopping them. It's I think what's so troubling for people, it's all confusing, right? Like go out and protest. It's no problem. Have a party at your house.'s a problem we're gonna let the protest happen have a gathering at your house we're gonna stop it uh covet is so bad that we're temporarily suspending all utility shutoffs for people right unless we decide we're gonna turn off your utilities and that's terrifying to me man that that made me realize that no matter where I am in the city I have nowhere to retreat to I have nowhere to go where they can't get me they can get me just in my house in my home doing
Starting point is 00:10:32 whatever I want in Washington DC the other day there was a party advertised like flyers on the internet everything it was like a block party and uh there was like a ton of people there and the cops were actually on scene didn't break it up really and that what happened there that was where that mass shooting was so like there was 21 people got shot at this gathering that the cops knew about so what I'm getting at here is that there's just this inconsistent application of the rules and that makes people insane because then they don't know what reality is or how to behave or how, you know, what we all depend on is, is a predictability by other people.
Starting point is 00:11:08 And if your government is acting in an unpredictable fashion that could jeopardize your ability to, you know, bathe, feed and clothe yourself and take care of your family. Well, that's a very unsettling place to be. And where do people take those fears out?
Starting point is 00:11:22 Maybe they act out, but maybe they're going to do it in the election booth this year. I hope so. And I think that's going to be if, man, I'm kind of worried about what happens if Trump loses. Because we've seen what these states have done, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania. They're putting sick people in nursing homes. People are dying. You look at what L.A. is doing.
Starting point is 00:11:42 You look at what Oregon is doing. Eighty-three nights now they've allowed these riots to go on because the DA keeps releasing them. Apparently, you know, someone emailed me saying, look at the, look at the court records. Somebody got charged with five felonies. The DA just cut them loose. That's, that's how the riots don't stop. This is, this is what they are doing. I couldn't imagine what would happen if that political party takes control of the executive branch at this time and then you know do you see that viral video from shasta county california where the guy says we're being regular americans are being peaceful now but he's like you know he basically says civil war is coming yeah
Starting point is 00:12:16 yeah uh again it's this predictability man i just don't know what's going to happen or what they're going to do to me or where things are going to go and that leaves me very unsettled how do you invest in the future how do you decide to have a family how do you build a community when you don't have any idea the way the law is going to be applied if there's going to be laws if they're like it's all up in the air but the troubling thing is really tim i think we just all are acknowledging this. Are things going to get worse if Trump loses? Probably. Are things going to get worse if Trump wins? Probably.
Starting point is 00:12:51 That's a little dark, though. I mean, I don't think electing Trump is going to stop anything. He might begin to chip away at some of it. But imagine the reaction. For sure. You have the other side. Yeah. You know, it's crazy now.
Starting point is 00:13:01 They're trying to bring Russiagate back. And that just shows you that there's there's disparate realities. But I do think if Trump gets reelected, he's untethered right now. His first four years was do what I can in a, you know, tempered way. And then when it comes to reelection, unleash the beast. And that's that's what Obama said, right? Remember that famous, you know, hot mic where he's like, I'll have more flexibility once I get reelected? Yeah. Yeah, because they know it's their last term.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Right. I think lame duck is such a misnomer. In fact, it's probably subterfuge when they say that a president's lame duck because he's on his way out. No way, man. That's when they can be most aggressive. That's why all those pardons and I almost said the bad word. That's why all those pardons and things happen at the last, at the last minute, at the 11th hour. Right. It's because they're on their way out the door and they're less accountable at that point.
Starting point is 00:13:48 So I, for one, would like to see more aggressive behavior out of Trump. I read a fantastic piece in the Claremont Rivera review of books by Michael Anton. And he said, there's not there's no problem today that more Trump won't solve. And I think he's probably right. You know, more aggressive towards china you know more nationalism more patriotism more onshore manufacturing all kinds of stuff yeah that he has been hamstrung on in terms of these cities especially though trump could invoke the insurrection act and he could end it overnight we i don't i don't know if you saw this what happened with the guy trying to cut the
Starting point is 00:14:22 uh the brakes to the NYPD vehicles. Man. See that story? No. He was accused. I'll say, you know, innocent until proven guilty. I'm a big fan. But the NYPD arrested the guy.
Starting point is 00:14:34 They had an informant drive him around. He went to a van. He tried snipping the brake line. He didn't. They arrested him. Local judge cut him loose. The fed swooped in immediately and arrested him on federal charges. And there this was really interesting. I'm not a lawyer, but, you know, I'm reading this affidavit from the FBI agent and he says that it's their jurisdiction me because, for one, I don't want the federal government to be able to just arbitrarily assert jurisdiction in state and local matters. But the state is not they're not prosecuting these people.
Starting point is 00:15:13 There have been instances in history in which federal assertion of authority domestically using the military was done for a good cause. Right. I remember watching most recently a documentary on a U.S. grant. And this guy, he sent the army into the South to end the hangings and to end the KKK. Right. Because they were anathema to what we were doing. Antifa and these guys, they are anathema to what we are doing. There is historical precedent to use force in a way to restore the peace that honors our Constitution, the Bill of Rights and all the things that we hold dear. And then, you know, what happens after that is the question.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I'm not saying I'm advocating for it because, you know, me, Tim, I'm I'm small government. You know, I went to Libertarian University, George Mason. I hate the idea of the feds getting involved in our business. Yeah. But at the same time, if your state is just failing to take care of people's lives and property, life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness fail to be protected, then who, who, who do you call? So the riots I think are, are, are an easy call, but what about what Garcetti is doing in LA?
Starting point is 00:16:19 Do you think Trump, the feds should intervene and shut down, you know, what, what they're doing in this capacity? I'm not a lawyer, so I'm going to punt that one. But what are they going to do? They're going to order them to just stop managing their utilities in the way that they see fit? I mean, when they wanted to get the drinking age raised to 21 across the country, they withheld, I think, like highway funds, right? They're like, we're not going to give you this money to build your highway until you raise the drinking age to 21. And I think that worked. So there are like levers that you can pull mostly around money.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Right. But imagine if Trump cuts off all the money to California to get them to turn the guy's water back on. I mean, it's in a way I would be all for it. Right. Like you can't turn my I paid my bill like I'm a human being. I'm allowed to drink water. We all are. It's a utility. It's a monopoly. It's regulated. It's there to provide a service. And by the way, the official policy is to not cut off utilities in this time of crisis. It's also like the policy is to let people out of jails.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And they're literally arresting people and putting them in jails for, like, running a business or something. Right. It's like you said. It's asymmetric enforcement of the law. Right and and the and the enforcement is on things that we need as humans for example we need human interaction socialization and community to be happy healthy actualized creatures we need that but they're banning it we need to exercise and work out and be fit and healthy but they're banning that we need it. Why are they attacking all the things that we do to help us to help our health, to help our sanity?
Starting point is 00:17:53 But isn't, isn't this for the most part Democrats? I think it is almost exclusively. Yeah. There, there have been some Republican States that have had lockdowns, but they've been minor or none entirely. I mean, South Dakota rejected Trump stimulus offer because they were like, it's okay. Most of our people have returned to work. So we don't need the bonus. I love looking at South Dakota. It is definitely an extreme example,
Starting point is 00:18:12 given how big it is and how few people live there. Their governor though, I could, I could definitely see supporting her in the future in some larger endeavor. She's got the whole package, man. She really does. She'd be fantastic.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I could support her in future elections christy gnome you think you're one for president i mean i watched that speech she gave at mount rushmore and i was like i tweeted out that night when can i vote for you for president wow they threw a parade for her so for those that aren't familiar she refused to lock down and south dakota was one of the there was this chart released i fact check me on this one i saw this chart i was talking about gdp all of the states there was this chart released. I fact-checked me on this one. I saw this chart. I was talking about GDP. All of the states are negative. South Dakota was like 0.08% positive, like at a time of crisis.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And like you said, it's an extreme example. It's, you know, not so much of a dense population relative to New York or whatever. But she did what was right for her state. And the media was relentlessly attacking her, saying it was the new hotspot. It was, you know, COVID was out of control. It wasn't. It was, I looked at the numbers from John Hopkins, and it was the new hot spot it was you know kovat was out of control it wasn't it was i looked at the numbers from john hopkins and it was like right in the middle so you had the worst country the worst state in the country is new york and then it was like rank 27 south dakota like it's not even it was right there in the middle so it's not an outlier
Starting point is 00:19:18 but because she was defiant the media just went you know it was just totally relentless i think that's a big, you know, ally of the Democrats. Obviously, they just push the same narrative, right? Well, the narrative is what matters. Facts don't matter. Right and wrong don't matter. Human rights don't matter. Your personal well being and safety don't matter. Your personal happiness and health don't matter. Consistency, logic and reason, they don't matter. Honoring the Constitution and the law of the land that doesn't matter. Federalism that doesn't matter. Honoring the Constitution and the law of the land. That doesn't matter. Federalism. That doesn't matter. States right. That doesn't matter. I got a real funny story for you. Hit me. So recently, a friend of ours who is not from America, you know, I, you know, we're hanging out and she said, hey, I have a question. The Second Amendment says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. And I was like, right. And she goes, then why can't you have a gun? And then everyone started laughing because it was like from the outside, you see the
Starting point is 00:20:10 Second Amendment and you're like, that's clear. And then you actually come to the states and you're like, OK, so the Constitution doesn't matter. That's correct. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah. We can talk about guns later if you want. There's a really big case that came out of the Ninth District that allows for, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:24 greater than 10 magazines, round magazines. yep and in dc where i live those are strictly prohibited so hopefully that will uh that will get turned over yeah i think you know i bring up second amendment more so as a general issue of the constitution which is swiss cheese it is one way to put i mean they've punched so many holes in that it actually scares me how you you know it really does come back to for more so the democrats but republicans as well it's you know our current system of governance is disrespectful to the constitution you've got people saying you know it's a living document and i respect that because we do amend it we do make changes and we do interpret
Starting point is 00:20:59 but certain things i look at and i've been i've been much more of a constitutionalist as of the past year or so, especially with how the Democrats have been violating people's rights. And I really got to say, look, maybe it's because I live in New Jersey and this is like probably the worst state in the country can, in terms of the authoritarian lockdown,
Starting point is 00:21:17 you know, that Adelist gym. Yeah. They're right down the street. Oh, is that right? Yeah. It's super close.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Huh? And these, those are the guys who got arrested, had their business license license taken away i watched that guy bust down the door to his own gym i love that guy i mean dude go for it like stand up for what's right this so you know before we started recording we were talking about we need meaning in our life and what's interesting about these covid lockdowns and all this tension is actually giving meaning to some people who are finding it
Starting point is 00:21:45 in resisting this shit, this stuff that they're finding meaning in resisting it. And like this guy now had a, he had a mission of helping people get healthy and fit, but now he's got a mission of standing up for himself and for what's right. And for his community, like he's, this guy's inspired and he's willing to take risks and put himself at risk. And I admire that. I admire people that are willing to stand up for what they believe to be true, not just true today, but like universal truths that transcend history, right? Like these people should be free to get healthy. Think about it. If you're fit, you are less likely to get sick and die. That's just obvious. Now I will, I, my thing is, follow the law.
Starting point is 00:22:28 You know, I guess you can say within reason, because I'm actually a big fan of civil disobedience, nonviolent, because I think that's where we as a society accept people push the line. For this guy to kick his door in, that's nonviolent civil disobedience. I mean, you could argue that kicking the wood that he put up off, or I think, I don't know if the city did it or not. Yeah, I think they did. Yeah, you could argue you're getting close into vandalizing
Starting point is 00:22:48 property or whatever but it's a piece of plyboard it's his property right right right and so i look at this and i look at the bevel and beady when she threw the paint on the black lives matter in new york yeah non-violent civil disobedience now i'll tell you this if we were in normal times and someone showed up and kicked in the plyboard on a building and came in i'd be critical of it yeah not super critical i'd just be like you know look follow the law there's there's better ways to do this but now you've got antifa going around tearing down statues and the democrats say it's peaceful protests you actually had a a state democrat in virginia charged with two felonies for conspiring to tear down the stat tear down
Starting point is 00:23:24 one of these statues that actually fell in a dude's head and nearly killed him. Dang. So when you actually have, I mean, you literally have Democrat politicians joining in, planning this stuff, engaging in all this stuff. You want me to be critical of a dude who kicked his own, you know, Jim Doran? Or when the Democrats in California are shutting off your access to water. The most important thing that we have.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Water is life. Yeah. I don't get it. None. And that's where. So just to clarify, too, they're inching towards it. That's my fear. I see.
Starting point is 00:23:56 They've authorized the termination of the utilities here. They shut off. It says power. I just want to make sure everybody. He straight up said. He said, we'll shut off your power and electricity at a press conference. Got it. it says power i just want to make sure everybody you know but my he's he straight up said he said we'll shut off your power and electricity at a press conference got it so they're they they've it's like pointing the loaded gun of a human rights violation at your face and this is them
Starting point is 00:24:14 cocking the hammer back when they go to this guy the the un said taking away water from people because they can't afford to pay the bill is a human rights violation but taking away from them because you want to crack the whip over their head that's okay that's okay yeah that's okay I mean I think one of the things that we're feeling too is just like there's the lawlessness right so when when they tore down statue in DC I was out of town thankfully because God knows if I would have been there I might have been there and what would have happened and I I had this feeling of just being violated, right? There are people just running around the city, tearing things down, destructing things,
Starting point is 00:24:50 destroying things, taking the law into their own hands, vigilantes basically. And when you, when you have this instability, instability, this unstable feeling, you know, there's, it just disrupts all parts of your your life which is why we all need to focus more on our health and our nutrition and our sleep because we have to be actually physically strong and resilient to deal with this because it is a psychological warfare that they're playing on us i i i don't get it you know they whether it's intentional or not in places like new york this is this is what i think a lot of people might not realize, especially listening to a show. Many of you probably live in suburban or even more rural areas.
Starting point is 00:25:31 But in New York, you live in a cubicle. You live in a tiny box. And you go. I know people who've got these rooms. It's like 10 feet by 10 feet. Yeah. And then some of these places, there's one hotel. I think it's called the Jane.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Your room is like eight feet by 10 feet, your hotel room. And it's a one big shared bathroom that's a hotel and it's considered a good one oh yeah so when you're in when you live in one of these cubicle style apartments and you barely have a bathroom and now they tell you you can't leave and you're you're you're you're basically in solitary confinement for five months right these no wonder they went around smashing everything and looting and destroying everything yeah because they're it's it's it's almost like they're testing the stress of the of the average person in these places. Yeah. Well, it's a pressure cooker and it's about to pop, man. This summer is not over. The election isn't over. I think there's going to be an even increasing amount of sort of chaos and craziness leading to the election. And then God knows what's going to happen around election time.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Not that it's going to be decided on election day. Anyway, I think we should all be prepared for that. Yeah, definitely. And I've seen now there's been that call for the White House siege. Did you see that? September 17th. I'm going to be there, of course, in my own neighborhood. My whole world coming together.
Starting point is 00:26:41 All these things I've been working on. Antifa, the democrat to deplorable maga stuff networked insurgencies open source warfare all of it happening all at once in my town in my city in a place that i know and love where i grew up where my kids go to school where i've invested time and energy in the community and like actually in the community and little league and building schools and actually literally building buildings that people live in, in the city. Like I couldn't be more invested and it's all converging into one thing.
Starting point is 00:27:12 That's all happening right here for me. So like my life has been on fire the last few months. There's no question. And I will be down there September 17th and onwards to see what's going to happen. Now I have to stop myself though, from like searching out riot porn. Like I would go down to Black Lives Matter Plaza to see what was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:27:32 And like nothing would happen. And there was a small part of me that was a little disappointed. I put in the suffer, didn't find it. But obviously, you know, no violence is better than anything. Right. Right. But so I'm going to reluctantly go down there on September 17th and onwards just to see because the world has to know what's happening because the media is a couple hundred, but they keep getting released. And every article I see from all these outlets are, even Fox News will do this, the protesters, the protesters, the demonstrators. My favorite thing was when Oregon Live wrote that it was mostly peaceful for the first hour, then it got violent.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And I'm like, what you should have written, the story should be that a group of extremists wearing all black showed up, waited till their numbers were large enough, and then started rioting and smashing things. Right. It was a staging round. Yeah. Just because they were just because they were preparing. You call it a peaceful protest because they didn't yet throw the brick. I'm just getting ready. Here's some context.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I tweeted this out the other day. I think the total, unfortunately, now is up to like 30. 30 people have died. 30 people in the riots and the protests uh last year i believe the number of unarmed black men killed by the police was somewhere around 12 or 13 13 okay according to washington post okay so here we are now halfway through this year more than twice as many people have already died from the response to this thing which is terrible and a tragedy of course uh but you're now i think more likely to get killed by uh antifa black lives matter riot than you are as a black any of us
Starting point is 00:29:13 than you are as a black man uh getting killed uh by the police specifically shot and killed shot and killed yeah yeah okay yes i i just say that because it's good it's good right let's be precise exactly otherwise they're going to be like, you're imprecise. There was 13 unarmed black men were shot and killed by police last year, according to WAPO's tracker. And just specifically because George Floyd... But you see the body camera footage for the George Floyd incident? Yes, I saw the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And it really did change everything that they claimed. Yeah, well... He kicked his way out of the vehicle. He said, hold me on the ground. He was resisting. Yeah, he said he can't breathe before he even got in the car. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:46 So now some people think that he was on drugs. I think that's what the autopsy report found. Yeah. And he likely died due to that. Not that I'm a fan of these police officers. And I think, you know, I wouldn't know what should be done. But the narrative is definitely different. It's not the narrative they gave us.
Starting point is 00:30:03 No. But, you know, I think that's partially by design. Overcharge, getting acquittal. What's going to happen after that? More riots. More riots. Pencil that, date end, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, that's like Ferguson all over again.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah. Is it on purpose? It feels like it is, you know? This is the question I ask myself about all this stuff. Is it all a diabolical plan or is it a bunch of dummies just stumbling around in the dark screwing up left and right i think it's the you know what man at a certain point the absurdity reaches a level where i i just i can't believe it and i i i am very anti conspiracy theory my thing is like if you want to speculate as to what this may be i'm fine with it but show me the evidence.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And then from the evidence evidence, you can make a hypothesis and do like a standard investigation. So I mean, I'm not going to pretend to be perfect, but I don't like conspiracies, but I'll tell you this. When I look at some of the things that are happening with these, with these cities, with like, look at New York, they they're, they're running out of money. The mayor actually supports Black Lives Matter. He says things that directly antagonizes the already stressed people. Then he says, we need money. Bill de Blasio mocks the rich people as they leave,
Starting point is 00:31:15 which will hurt them more. Then he announces he's going to buy up these empty buildings. I'm like, hmm. He puts all these homeless people in luxury hotels, causing all the rich people to flee. Then I'm going to buy these buildings. Then they put checkpoints up all around the bridges and tunnels and institute a 14-day
Starting point is 00:31:30 quarantine for anyone coming in from certain states, like 32 or 30, whatever, and a $10,000 fine, which guarantees no tourism. So you can't have tourists, so your money's gone. You've put homeless people and criminals into these hotels, driving away the residents. And now you announce you want to buy up the empty buildings? It kind of sounds to me like you had a plan. You know what I mean? I would like,
Starting point is 00:31:54 there's a part of me that wishes that there was a plan like that because at least you could admire it maybe for its like diabolical nature. Right, right, right. It is for the foresight. But you know, as we were talking about how old we are just before the show. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I'm almost 45. You're almost 35. As you get older, you just start to realize people are dumb. Right. And like just because they're governor or mayor or or CEO or chairman of the board doesn't mean that they're smart. Right. And just because somebody might be like a homestead farmer or Skateboarder or whatever the case may be it doesn't mean you know, they're dumb
Starting point is 00:32:30 So there's just these expectations we have of people. I like to think that it's it's it's unfortunate Stumbling around aggregated up rather than that. There's a huge master plan to do all these horrible, terrible, evil things. I have redemption for them in my heart, but I know that they don't have it in their heart for me. And I think that that is like the ultimate dividing line right there. I agree. I think you're right that, you know, for the most part, they're probably just bumbling around. It's Anlin's razor, never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence. But I got to say, when I look at Trump, sometimes I'm just like, there's no way it's all accidental. How he ropes and he baits the Democrats so perfectly. I mean, you look the other day with
Starting point is 00:33:14 the Susan B. Anthony thing. I was mad at first, right? So you heard he was going to, you know, he announced he's going to pardon somebody. I'm all excited. You know, I'm texting people, is it going to be Assange? You know, texting the people that I know, is it going to be Assange? Is it going to be Assange? And then I wake up and, you know, I'm texting people. Is it going to be Assange? You know, texting the people that I know. Is it going to be Assange? Is it going to be Assange? And then I wake up and, you know, it's Susan B. Anthony or whatever. I'm like, what? Are you kidding me? And then I started seeing the news that came out.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Susan B. Anthony was a racist, was, you know, a symbol of the pro-life community. She's very divisive. And I just started laughing relentlessly. I just, I was like, and there it is. Donald Trump did something so boring that any president would do do and they couldn't help but attack him over it yeah and they even denigrated susan b anthony herself and i'm like was this an accident did donald trump not that stuff that stuff right he knows that is expert public relations communications persuasion it uh i was listening on the way up here to uh of my favorite analysts, John Robb,
Starting point is 00:34:05 former special forces guy, wrote a book, advisor to defense department, like knows the military and knows networks better than anybody. And one of the things he says about Donald Trump is that he's a master of what he called mental maneuver. And so he gets in your head and he disrupts your information flow. He disrupts your ability to make sense of the world. He disrupts your ability to observe yourself, to orient it. He disrupts your ability to decide or to even act by jamming himself into your brain every single day with those tweets.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And then it, that is his Twitter account is like the most powerful weapon in the world today. In this ongoing open source network, tribal warfare that we're participating in that exists in the world today in this ongoing open source network tribal warfare that we're participating in that exists in the information world, not so much in the physical world. It's just punctuated by this violence. Goodyear tires lost three percent when he tweeted out, don't buy Goodyear. It's it's he swings the stock market, you know? Yeah. So, yeah, you know, I look at some of these things and, you know, honestly, maybe this one instance with the Susan B. Anthony thing wasn't Trump with any expert plan.
Starting point is 00:35:08 It's just that it's come to a point where the Democrats just do this and the media just does this. Or at the same time, all of our heroes are flawed, too. What do you know? And so if you want to find that, this is what I tell people all the time. If you if you look for love, you'll find love. If you look for hate love you'll find love if you look for hate you'll find hate and this is the way I'm trying to persuade my old Facebook fam like I still waste a little bit of time on there me too and and and it's just it's basically just kind of trolling because it's like people I've known my
Starting point is 00:35:38 whole life and they all kind of hate me already at this point but it's like guys look for love don't look for hate because if you look for love you'll find it i swear to god this is this i like to say something similar that you know we as a society we take the good things from the past and we get rid of the bad things so yeah there's probably a lot of people that we look up to who had a lot of really bad things in their history but we're the building blocks we're taking for our society are the good things they did not the bad things. In fact, we see the Antifa going around smashing up George Washington statues.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Recently, six people got arrested in L.A. because he was a slave owner or whatever. And I'm like, but we're not putting statues up to him because of that. If you want to look at him and see that, that's that's a mistake we put statues of him up because he helped found a new nation where the the people in charge were were had to receive the consent of the governed that finally individuals had rights and it was the you know what i what i call it is planting the seeds of liberty that had and those seeds had to be watered by people like susan b anthony like like frederick douglas those who fought the Civil War. So we're not putting up the statue. We actually fought a civil war over this because we think it's bad. And now we say those things are bad. Same is true for Christopher Columbus.
Starting point is 00:36:53 The dude did a lot of bad things, but he did some things that we revere, challenged the status quo, went on an adventure, whatever. I mean, like Christopher Columbus, who at that time do you think was going to be in the right mind? What kind of person gets on a boat to sail off into the ocean based on like a scribble and an idea that some somebody had where there's serpents and monsters? But, dude, let's go. What kind of guys sign up for a trip like that? Right. So come on. They're going to be flawed.
Starting point is 00:37:21 We're all flawed. The fundamental difference between us and the other guys right now is like, I feel like the people that I hang out with and the people that I sort of caucus with, we understand that there is good and evil in all of us. And our job is to try to be as good as we can while fighting the evil inside of us. The other side thinks people can be perfect. So if you're not perfect, then you're evil and then you're terrible and there's no good in you at all. And this is where we're headed right now. It's perfect ability of man. Forget about that. You know, it's really interesting about that. The left will destroy you over one
Starting point is 00:37:54 slight and they will ignore all of the virtues, right? But that ultimately results in people who are all hiding. You know, I make jokes about the future where everyone's wearing a gray jumpsuit with their heads shaved and you can't carry anything on you. Or the bigger joke is that everyone wears this gigantic box over their bodies. So you don't know how tall they are. If you got a voice changer,
Starting point is 00:38:14 because we got to eliminate all those things. Ultimately, if they will cancel you over. So right now, there could be something said by a feminist that in a year will be offensive and they'll pull up the tweet from a year ago and say, you're canceled. So all that's going to result in are people who don't tweet, don't post, don't speak, and just hide. And they move around in this dark mass attacking anybody who does. It seems like the logical conclusion of whatever it is they are.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah. So this issue has come up all through history. How do you discuss politics without or how do you discuss philosophy without disrupting politics and vice versa? And so there are some people that believe that our philosophers over time have like coded their messages in a way to protect themselves from this type of attack and this type of of Socrates. I mean, he's dead. He got killed, right? Because they didn't like what he was saying. So they learned to, like, code their language.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And right now we're, you know, I did it myself. I get online and you're like, this is fun. What's going on? I'm just going to say whatever I think. You had no idea that this was going to become, like, the time capsule of your life, the canon statement for who you are and the defining moment of your character and your soul. Some tweet I sent out to six followers in 2015? No way. canon statement for who you are and the defining moment of your character and your soul some tweet
Starting point is 00:39:25 i sent out to six followers in 2015 no way so i think that we all kind of got caught in this moment of sort of with our pants down like being exposed without knowing that we had to actually be much more careful about the things that we say we shouldn't have to. But these lunatics have first... You know what it is? It's very simple. The violent crazies are what is feared, and so that's why they have power. Because regular, rational people don't get violent,
Starting point is 00:39:55 don't start conflicts. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Absolutely, man. Going back to what we were talking about with Christopher Columbus, you know what really breaks my heart is where are these pioneers? Where is the modern pioneer? You know talking about with Christopher Columbus, what really breaks my heart is where are these pioneers? Where is the modern pioneer?
Starting point is 00:40:07 About a year ago, I've been looking at expanding and finding new property. So I'm going off in the middle of nowhere. It's not as middle of nowhere as I'd like it to be. I was actually looking at some central PA, like Pennsylvania Wildlands properties. I was looking at cities that were dying because industry was leaving and the population was going down. And I'm thinking like, how cool would it be to get a bunch of friends and rebuild industry and create a reason, create... Like for me, I've got a growing business, hiring people. And so I could easily relocate somewhere.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And all of a sudden, all that revenue lands right there. I can hire locals. They can do construction work. It can start attracting new businesses, new cafes, really servicing this area through a new industry. So I've done a kind of compromise where I'm going to be moving to a certain area where it's kind of middle of nowhere and we have that opportunity. But I think about the people on those ships that came from Europe or anywhere else, any kind of adventurer or pioneer from any country. And they decided, I'm going to get in a boat. It's going to be a dangerous journey. About 20% of the people on this boat will die because we're going to run out of citrus fruits or whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:16 And then we're going to land on an empty shore and then try and find food. Find 7-Eleven. No way. Just kidding. Yeah. I mean, what kind of person does that? People with very little to lose, really. But, Tim, I have the same urges that you have.
Starting point is 00:41:31 I've lived in Washington, D.C. 30 years almost. I've dedicated my life to that city. And right now, all I can do is just look around and think about getting out of there. I've been looking all through Appalachia, actually. Someone once told me Appalachia is Appalachistan in the sense that that is where people go to hide out in the hills and to stay away from the invaders
Starting point is 00:41:53 and to stay away from the marauding forces and the big central government and all that. And I've started looking around there and I've been looking at pieces of land, like substantial pieces of land. And as I was doing this, one of my friends tweeted out like the the the plans for a medieval town that can hold like 50 000 people you need 90
Starting point is 00:42:11 acres okay for a walled city that can have 50 000 people you need 90 acres and so that kind of kicked me off down that path but like i have i have a plan i have a long-term plan that involves finding a home base because I do not want the mayor of my town who doesn't like me saying, I'm going to cut off your utilities if you don't stop doing this thing that I want you to stop, even though I'm a hypocritical liar, two-faced a-hole. Maybe that's it. No, no, no. Think about it. A lot of the reason for emigration from Europe was an oppressive government. Religious freedom was a big issue, a lack of opportunity.
Starting point is 00:42:50 And now I think we're probably seeing that similar crisis, but in a modern framing, where we've got overbearing government, a lack of freedom, and the opportunity to go somewhere and start something new. It's our new frontier. Yeah, yeah. And it's the digital technology that allows us to basically set up these businesses. You know, it's really, I love it.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I'm incredibly honored, all of you watching, seriously, that we can have political and philosophical, cultural discussions, and it's actually an important job to have these discussions, which means there's something being created here. I like to think about sourcing resources, going to a coal mine, going to a sulfur mine, whatever. You're actually getting something and then delivering it,
Starting point is 00:43:32 which can be used in a variety of different industries. And I think that what we do is a similar discovery. We're exploring ideas. These ideas help people assess their lives and improve their condition, things like that. membranes that you find in biology you find in complex systems you find in software systems you find it in the solar system and in the universe you find protective healthy membranes that let the things in that you want to let in and keep out the things you don't want to have in that is a perfectly happy healthy state of nature we require it in fact if we're completely open and totally
Starting point is 00:44:19 interconnected one thing like a virus could come swooping through and just kill everybody in one second maybe we need to have healthy distance we need to find you need to have a home base where you can decide who comes in and who doesn't and where you can protect yourself this is this is an essential part of life that we have abandoned yeah what if in that vein what we're watching is the natural progression we we strive towards these big cities because it was easier it was safer resources got centralized but then the bubbles got too big and popped and now the the government we see that emerges from this is a natural consequence of the congestion of the wealth of the gluttony and now with that bubble bursting people are now craving to go back
Starting point is 00:45:03 out and kind of start again. Yeah. So maybe it's like a cycle. It is a cycle. And we're not the only ones talking about it. The tech guys in Silicon Valley are talking about it. Balaji is talking about it all the time. Our guys in the liminal order, shout out to my guys in liminal order.
Starting point is 00:45:16 We're talking about this stuff right now. We've got a community built all around the country. We've got hundreds of guys. And we're all thinking about these same things. We've got actual homesteaders, like actual guys homesteading in a group. So, you know, I'm not trying to like get out there and just, just be me and some chickens right away. But like, I have a multi-year plan where I will end up in a situation like that, where I have my own land that I can defend for myself and for my family. That is a base that I can retreat to because
Starting point is 00:45:44 I've been attacked. I'm in the city. I've had the cops into my family. That is a base that I can retreat to because I've been attacked. I'm in the city. I've had the cops into my house. I've had people chase me around the city, threatening to shoot us, you know, at certain events, like far leftists,
Starting point is 00:45:52 like Lacey McCall and all those Antifa freaks used to follow us around. And we'd have parties and like gatherings in DC in 2016, 2017, 2018. And, uh, you know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:46:02 look, and then across the street from my house, there's a park. There's like a Corona testing center there every day now, which is like, street from my house there's a park there's like a corona testing center there every day now which is like yeah we need to test but it's like why do i have to be where there's people getting shot all the time where there's a mass shooting in dc and nobody flipping cares yeah you know i was one of the first people to pick that out of the low it was in the local public safety section of washington post and i got it out there and i
Starting point is 00:46:24 saw it go get retweeted up the chain. Also, Matt Walsh is talking about it. And then by two o'clock, and then by two o'clock people, and then by eight o'clock, it's on Tucker. Not that he wouldn't have found out about it, but you know, it's like you see the whole cycle happen. And there's people getting shot in my neighborhood. And then there's the sick people are right across the street. And everyone around me, I know if they knew who i was they would hate me i mean my landlord tried to get me out of there back when i was getting doxed in the end because his wife follows antifa like she she believed it so like we're under siege man and
Starting point is 00:46:55 it just doesn't it doesn't feel good yeah so for those that aren't familiar i mean you you you basically got a kickstart because they canceled you they They lied about you. They smeared you. These far leftists posted out of context photos to come, you know, and try to destroy your life. Yashur. Yashur did it. And he promised me that he would make amends. And he never did.
Starting point is 00:47:15 That guy, Yashur Ali. I thought you were going to do a conversation. Oh, my God. We were supposed to do a podcast. We talked on the phone. He was an integral part of the doxing that happened to me. And he apologized to me on the phone, said he was going to write of the doxing that happened to me and he apologized to me on the phone said he was going to write an essay about canceling cancel culture he said he was going to come on my podcast and then he just let that all go and then you see what he did recently
Starting point is 00:47:34 with that republican dude yeah who went on the world war ii germany tour yeah shameful yeah so so uh he's a journalist he's like you know new york mag huffington post i think and a lot of people seem to have a lot of respect for him but but I've sort of lost it a little bit. He recently, I mean, aside from what he did to you, he recently called out this young Republican guy. Do you know his name? The Republican? Yeah, Madison Cawthorn. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:47:56 Madison Cawthorn. Madison Cawthorn. Yeah. So he went to, there's that famous place in Germany, I guess, where the allies drank wine celebrating the defeat of hitler and so he had an instagram post where he was like this is so cool and yasha framed it as though he was celebrating being in hitler's you know location as opposed to where the allies ended the war right he even called hitler a supreme evil but it doesn't matter to these cancel culture people no you they they find something they can miss frame or latch onto.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Boom. There you go. Yeah. But again, it's about meaning, dude. It's about people looking for meaning. They think that they're slaying dragons.
Starting point is 00:48:31 They think that they're killing evil people because they've put, they've, they believe they're in a religion. Yeah. That says, if you're not with us, you're against us. And if you're with us,
Starting point is 00:48:40 you're good. And if you're against us, you're literally evil because what we're fighting for is justice. And if don't believe in our justice then you are against justice and who who likes that nobody it's not just a differing way of seeing the world or different opinions on things this is this is fundamental us versus them in versus out it's because we have no unifying story as our country anymore not to get too. I think social media did that. Of course. Everybody found different pockets, and now they're fractured and isolated.
Starting point is 00:49:09 But I'll tell you what, though. All this, I'm just thinking, like, I'd love to just go farming, have some chickens, and just start raking. Just, you know, tilling the land. The last two books I bought, one was called Microfarming, and the other one was Get Off the Grid. Yes. And all, the only TV I watch right now, Homestead Rescue on Discovery.
Starting point is 00:49:26 That's it. I love the Rainey family. If I ever have a homestead rainy family please come to it uh it's amazing watching these people who are braving the ozarks and appalachians and alaska and canada trying to live off the land that to me is like the most exciting thing in the world right now uh because the rest of the stuff has just gotten so dark you could do a vlog filming like here's how you farm here's what we're doing here's our plan documenting it i mean you're watching it right now yeah i mean people would love that yeah so i want to i want to get into because the dnc is happening right now it is yeah who knew yeah convention the convention's live we're competing with it yeah yeah yeah so check it out just We're doing just fine. We're competing with it.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I want to show this story. Briefly talk about it. Oh, what was that? Oh, you disconnected. Can you push it back in? There we go. That was weird. Ooh, weird.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Everyone probably just got their ears blown out. Sorry, everyone. So I want to talk about this story. And then I want... You're out? Yeah. What just happened? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I just touched it. Oh, you're good. You're good. It's actually not in. That's weird. You want me to look at it? Can you talk? Is it working know. I just touched it. Oh, you're good. You're good. It's actually not in. That's weird. You want me to look at it? Can you talk? Is it working?
Starting point is 00:50:29 No, no, no. Okay, yeah. I'm going to come fix it. Yeah, come fix it. So I'll just start talking because for some reason Jack's mic popped out. We've been having a bunch of weird technical difficulties because we kind of did a room upgrade. And you don't really get space for – this might hurt your ears. Yeah, so just push it in. And you don't really get space for... This might hurt your ears. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:45 So just push it in. Is it in? This is weird. Keep going, Tim. There you go. Got it? I don't know. I'm talking to it.
Starting point is 00:50:57 All right, I'm back. He's back. Jack is back. There you go, everybody. Sorry about that. My big, meaty hands breaking things. Yeah. You know what it probably was is the cables, my cables go cables go into the stand got it and so when someone moved it it
Starting point is 00:51:09 pulled it out there you go but take a look at this story let's let's actually we're not we're live people yeah it happens the dnc had to disable the chat room after trolls crash warren appearance at native american caucus meeting there is so much wrong with this headline. Elizabeth Warren was put on the Native American caucus for the DNC. I'm kind of, I'm, I'm. There are, there is a DNA test. Yeah, she did it. She released the DNA test and the number was, she was half. One, 1,024.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Okay, there you go. And it just doesn't matter right it doesn't matter i can't believe they did this so so i i highlight this not because we need to rehash everything they did they had to disable the chat room but the dnc has been digital and that i think they've made so many mistakes they didn't realize everyone was going to come and rag on them was going to give them thumbs down and and relentlessly attack them and somehow they're like like you were saying they were bump they're bumbling around like like morons slipping on banana peels yeah yeah they put elizabeth warren on the native american caucus panel what that's such a slap in the face they've
Starting point is 00:52:18 already complained about this the native american community has already said this is ridiculous we have tons of thoroughly vetted actual Native Americans. This is a mockery. And for them to just ignore that and carry on, it's like, well, you guys really care about minorities. So this brings us back to the diabolical or just dumb. Yeah, I don't know. They're intentionally forgetful at least. Diabolical or dumb.
Starting point is 00:52:40 That's like a whole sequence. That's a whole segment. This one's got to be dumb, right? This one's got to be dumb right this one's got to be dumb no but but listen listen no it's got to be diabolical because they all have seen the freaking test and and it was a meme like listen i i when i was recording this i on my on my main channel over at youtube.com slash tim cast i my main segment was on the failures of the dnc because last night was the night before last was insanely bad with that weird you see that dancing thing the guy did what are they doing awful i yeah it's just like high freshman high school talent show production just really bad it looked like those old youtube videos
Starting point is 00:53:14 then last night we have they put they put elizabeth warren the native american caucus and i'm thinking to myself how could this be an accident how could this be an accident? How could this be an accident? It's not, it's not an accident. The funny thing is, is it, they're basically like just boomerang all over this thing. They're like, Hey, we're going to have a chat. We're in a chat room. Right, right, right, right, right. That's not going to go well. And I think I saw a Matt Taibbi, a former Rolling Stone guy. I think he called it, I tweeted it out, he called it a neocon telethon. Yeah. Which is basically what it felt like. And I only took a peek in a couple of times, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:53 because you got to see what's going on. But it is as bad as you think it would be, then it's actually worse. And I think this actually gives the Republicans a little leg up what not to do. Right. Right. It's pretty obvious what not to do. Don't do do. Right. Right. It's pretty obvious what not to do.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Don't do this. It's terrible. It's terrible. And all the polls are closing now. They're all tightening up. Right. As they keep coming out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Trump's trailing Biden by about one point in a bunch of battleground states, according to CNN. Yeah. And that's margin of error territory. Yeah. CNN showed like a 10 point closure or nine point closure over the last month. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:24 CNN did. Yeah. CNN did. Because when Biden shows his face, it's bad news. And I think Harris has something to do with that as well. Oh, man. What a disaster. So, you know, particularly I wanted to highlight this for one, because the DNC is just an insane disaster. I have to question whether it's on purpose or not, like they're trying to lose.
Starting point is 00:54:44 But I do think it's a good way to dive back into, for people who might not be familiar with you, you wrote the book on leaving the Democratic Party. The OG, like you're the first person to explore this leaving the Democratic Party, writing a book about it, asking people why they did it. Yeah. So when I look at this stuff, I have to ask,
Starting point is 00:55:02 is it kind of like this is, you know, contributing factor? You know, the bumbling boomerism is something that I can laugh. I can laugh at right now. But, you know, honestly, the reasons for leaving the Democrats just run so much deeper. They run so much deeper. And I wrote the book in the aftermath of 2016. So it's almost four years old now. Right. And everything, every trend, every concept that we identified in there from intersectionality to the network warfare to the social media lack of cohesion to political correctness, which is really like a version of mind control. All these things that I outlined in depth there have just continued to worsen and it continued to come on display. I wrote that book sort of thinking it was niche back then, even though 9 million people, 9 million people voted for Obama and then for Trump. But, you know, the attention on it was niche. But now all the issues
Starting point is 00:55:56 they are the issues at this point, anti-globalism, bring home the troops, you know, let's focus on onshoring manufacturing back to the United States. China is actually a threat. Oh, my God. They're trying to steal from us and eat our lunch and poison us all at the same time. And just also a real big focus in the book on college campus culture, Title IX, intersectionality. And I came up this way. I went all through Pennsylvania, interviewed people in the south sort of central Pennsylvania and up in the Lehigh Valley as well, and did a national survey.
Starting point is 00:56:29 So it's like filled with actual data, actual research, actual interviews, plus a lot of personal stories in there too. And I don't see anything having changed from that. All the factors that led to 9 million people ditching the Democrats and and voting for Trump they've all those trends have only worsened I don't know very many people who made the switch who are like I'm fed up with Trump forget about I'm going back to the Democrats now I don't think that that's a real phenomenon but as we have seen the Democrats are continuing to lose what people might call the center yeah you know when when you're losing guys like the Weinstein's and you're losing guys like the Weinsteins
Starting point is 00:57:05 and you're losing, Rubin was a little bit late on the game. When some of our most favorite formerly progressive journalist YouTube stars also are leaving the left, it is a trend that the thinking, I think it's the thinking man's decision. There's a real component to the
Starting point is 00:57:25 Trump network that is very intellectual, very well thought out, well considered, forward thinking, attached to the grand conversations of our lifetime and of humankind, really, and looking to extend those in our American experiment. And we see what's happening to the Democrats, the 2020 Democrats, as being contrary 100% to the American project. And we have to fight against that. It is literally 2016 over again. The same projections are coming out. It's the same.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Same strategy. It's the same. The only thing that's different is that Biden is a worse candidate than than than clinton and kamala and kamala harris is even less like even less like seriously right and trump has been president for four years and is the incumbent so like if if everything is the same except for those elements i don't see how how trump loses and man if the popular polls are tightening this early right at this point of the election, where I think I saw Cernovich mentioned that they're there, they must know it's coming in a bad way. If they're if they're starting to reflect reality this early in the season. Donald Trump bought the most expensive ad space in digital.
Starting point is 00:58:42 You heard the story of the story. The YouTube homepage banner. This is multi-billion views per month. And the New York Times said he was able to do it because the Democrats didn't buy their ad space during their own convention. I can't believe that. During their own convention where they're publishing on YouTube, they didn't buy their own ad space. I was reading the story and I was like if donald trump buys this during their convention how does how is that possible they must not have bought and i read it and like there it is they must know they're gonna lose so so like i was saying earlier you know you get biden harris
Starting point is 00:59:15 you're you're you're at home your friend hits you up and says yo we're going out you're in a rush your socks are dirty so he's grabbed two random out of the drawer one's old ratty and one's like a weird sock. You don't care because you're not trying to impress anybody at Dairy Queen. So that's what it feels like. It does. It feels like when I would go out of the house with flip flops and socks on. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Exactly what it's like. You're like, you know, when I get all dressed up for work. I sure you do. When I'm walking down the street to like drop something in the mailbox, it's flip flops. It's shorts. I slept in this dirty shirt. It's stretched out and sweaty and I don't care. That's what it feels like. That is what it feels like.
Starting point is 00:59:50 And I saw a report. I'm not exactly 100% sure if it's accurate, but it was in the mainstream media that Obama, despite amassing enormous amounts of post-presidential wealth, has not donated a single penny to the Biden campaign. And if I remember his, his endorsement of him was tepid and it was, I think only after it was clear that he was going to become the winner.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Yeah. Obama has a mansion in the toniest part of Washington, DC that is literally walking distance to the white house. Okay. He didn't get out of town. He stayed there. He's worth gazillions of dollars, and he's a relatively young man.
Starting point is 01:00:29 You don't think he's sitting around there trying to, you don't think he's pushing all this. I think that he among, over everybody, may know how incompetent and bumbling Joe Biden really is. The report came out from Politico and several other outlets that he said Joe Joe, Joe doesn't have it. He doesn't. You know, and my favorite was don't underestimate Joe's ability to F things up. Spicy. So at the DNC, they actually played one of these like it was a cringy B tier, you know, dollar store knockoff walk away of former Trump voters now voting Democrat.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Yeah. And it just felt plastic and fake. Yeah. I don't believe it. Yeah. I don't because every time, you know, I talk to I have a lot of friends who are still just not paying attention and they're definitely, you know, voting for Joe Biden. But I have some friends who, man, I'm on. I was I was on Facebook earlier. And these two guys that I know from back in my hometown were arguing and one dude was was was
Starting point is 01:01:26 just giving these really dumb meme talking points about orange man bad and the other dude who's just a guy a family guy was saying all these things about China and about intersectional and and I was like this guy knows what he's talking about I was like wow to see like dudes from my hometown being I don't I guess you call it red ppilled, whatever. They know what's going on. They're paying attention. They've been politically activated. Arguing with these other guys who are just dead set on being in the tribe of the Democrats. That's it.
Starting point is 01:01:54 It's the tribes now. So here's what I'm thinking with your book. You found 9 million people. I'm sorry. There were 9 million people. You found many of them. You talked to them. You wrote this book about it.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I have to imagine the number is going to be bigger this time around, right? It has to be. It has to have done. You have to write a follow-up. I am going to write a follow-up. The thing is I don't know how it's going to end yet. Right, right. So it's prepared.
Starting point is 01:02:15 In fact, I've got like 10 books that I could write, really. But there will be a follow-up to this, of course, seeing how things shake out. But I just have not heard one credible argument from somebody who did vote for obama and then for trump who thinks that was a bad decision and i want to return but biden is just as hillary was literally obama part three and they're not hiding it it's not even secret so we have the same choice again and this time, even more so when they bring people like Kasich and, and Colin Powell and other Republicans to, to the DNC it only just shows that the democratic party is actually the part of the unit party, which is actually who part of the
Starting point is 01:03:02 GOP establishment is as well well and so if you want an alternative from the uniparty there's only one person to choose i posted a meme a few years ago and it's uh the stock image of a guy and a girl and the guy's got his arm around the girl but then his other hand is behind it's like she's got his arm around him and his hand is going behind the couch and holding the hand of another woman. Yeah, yeah. I've seen this. Right. So the meme is like the Democrats sell these really nice things to you.
Starting point is 01:03:28 And really, the Uniparty, it's the establishment. Yeah. This is why I think it's weird that so many of the progressives have joined in the rock throwing with the Democratic establishment. The Never Trump or Republicans establishment ran, you know, tails between their legs to the Democratic establishment saying, help, help. We've been kicked out of our house. And then the progressives hating Trump said, we'll throw rocks with you. And my thing's like, if Trump wins another four years and actually succeeds in crushing the establishment, then the progressives have a clean shot at 2024. I think that's what they're thinking anyway. So are they going to vote for Trump too? staying home so yeah sort of the same thing uh if they were died in the wool and had
Starting point is 01:04:10 ordinarily voted democrat um you know the the this theory but you know just sort of raises the question who do they have on the bench that would have been the person you know if they were serious let's say who would have been the person that they would have run this year? And I've said all along, you don't want to lose to Donald Trump. That will ruin your credibility. Right. So I think the Democrats, it sounds like they might be throwing it. There's a number of reasons why you would feel like it. But that theory also then includes like, OK, well, who is their secret weapon?
Starting point is 01:04:40 And I don't know who Michelle Obama. I mean, that's my first thought. You know, it seems to make sense um you know we're not conspiracy theorists we're conspiracy analysts I like that uh I just read that somewhere that's not my quote yeah and uh and and so you know in order to round that theory out I will try to figure out who that person is in the background maybe we don't know who it is just yet but I can't think that this is any, this Biden, I'm going to keep calling her Kamala Harris,
Starting point is 01:05:10 ticket is like their best shot at a winning coalition. I think it's their worst shot. Yeah. I think it really feels like they sat down in a room and said, we don't even want to waste Buttigieg. He's a small town mayor, but he's got more than Biden does. Right. So if we're planning to lose, what's the bottom of the barrel that we don't care?
Starting point is 01:05:33 Well, I mean, Harris dropped out of the I mean, who knows why she dropped out? Maybe she dropped out of the the the primary because she knew she was going to be the veep all that time ago. But also she was performing very poorly right right so they just added like the worst performer to the ticket so what sense is based on based on her identity yeah which isn't even the one that they said they were going to pick what they said yeah so my first thought when they picked kamala was like it's over it's done this is great this is the perfect person they could have chosen to make sure that trump gets elected again yeah and i don't know if that was their plan, but the more I thought about it, the more I was
Starting point is 01:06:06 like, maybe, maybe 2024 is where it's at and they're just resigned. And I don't even know if they're thinking that far ahead, though, because in my experience, people tend to not think that far ahead. Diabolical or dumb. Exactly. That's a solid question. You should write another book. Dumb or diabolical.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Yeah, it is. And you could do that now. And then you could write Democrat to Deplorable, you know, part two. Part two. It's coming. It's a phenomenon. So the Democrat to Deplorable book isn't just stories about people. I mean, it is a philosophical and moral justification for why voting for Donald Trump was essential.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Okay. It's about defending reality, basically. It's about defending Western civilization. Basically it's about defending the enlightenment and rational thinking and natural rights of man that span all epochs of history. There are universal rights that are part of the grand ongoing human conversations that are being completely thrown to the side and destroyed by the Democrats. So there's real reasons to do that. Uh, and so the, the, these are structural forces at work, tectonic plates. They're not going to stop. They're not going to turn on a dime. It's going to keep going and grinding. And, uh,
Starting point is 01:07:10 we're just waiting for that earthquake really. Yeah. And Donald Trump wasn't even just that he was, he was a weapon that was launched by the, the, you know, the sort of insurgent network. Uh, but, uh, the earthquake hasn't happened yet. Cause we're all still sort of moving in this same tense lockstep thing, feeding off each other with no clear winner and no clear new direction. You know what I'm finding fascinating right now? We had this in 2018. You had the squad, the rise of the squad, you know. So you've got Ilhan Omar, Ina Presley, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Rashida Tlaib.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Most of the progressives did poorly in the Democratic primaries, or in their actual, yeah, in their primaries. I think it was out of 78, seven actually won. And they got endless press coverage. AOC, the new celebrity, she was the one. She got 8.3 million followers. But right now, we're seeing a ton of republican primaries with new kind of populist pro-trump candidates winning a lot of republicans retiring so byron donalds for instance if you're familiar so i think he's in in florida's uh um 19th okay he's a pro-trump black conservative they tried to someone tried pulling this illegal stunt where they sent out fake text did you see this no oh i heard about it but i don't know the details yeah faked stunt where they sent out fake text. Did you see this? No. Oh, I heard about it, but I don't know the details.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Yeah. Faked text messages got sent out saying he dropped out of the race on the day of the election. And that's a dirty trick. He ended up winning his primary. But it's an R plus 13 district, which means he's in. A pro-Trump member of Congress. It looks like we're seeing a bunch of these stories about Trumpian type.
Starting point is 01:08:43 You're laughing because you're looking at the story. We got ready to go. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. So we're going to talk about Laura Loomer for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:51 But it looks like we're seeing this phenomenon on the right, same as we see it on the left, with a new kind of populist insurgent base coming in and pushing out the establishment politicians. The media doesn't go after it the same way they go after the squad. The squad is magic. You know, 8.3 million followers for AOC.
Starting point is 01:09:08 She's the star. But we've got a bunch of conservatives that have been stepping up to the plate, you know, saying something's going to be done. I'm going to do it. And specifically, this is a segue into Laura Loomer as kind of the Democrats' reckoning. You know, not necessarily just the democrats but the the establishment elites the the the tech uh technocrats yeah they tried shutting laura loomer down and now she's won her primary she's in a d plus nine district so i'm wondering if she can actually win
Starting point is 01:09:36 i'm not just doing this you know segment to be like i mean first of all i think it's amazing she won a primary i would agreed yeah and and is, I think she's probably the most driven person I've seen. I'm not even kidding. You can criticize all of her stunts after being banned from every single platform. She just does not stop. And now she's, you know, the primary, she's the Republican nominee for this district. We'll see if she wins. But the bigger issue at play involving her is this story right here.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Twitter maintains ban on candidate Laura Loomer. They say Politico says Loomer is a far-right activist whose confrontations with journalists and political figures helped her amass an online following. They say, quote, the account owner you referenced was permanently suspended for repeated violations of the Twitter rules. We do not plan to reverse that enforcement action, the company said in the statement. Now, they're going to go on and talk about why she was banned, but I don't necessarily trust them. Politico's big picture says social media companies have at times given political figures more leeway when their speech violates rules so the public can hear directly
Starting point is 01:10:38 from their representatives. But it seems that won't be enough to get Loomer tweeting again. Do you know what was the final nail in the coffin for her on Twitter? I think it was, was it the Uber thing? No, no, no. It was the Ilhan Omar. Oh, was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. About wanting to see another 9-11 or something like that?
Starting point is 01:10:55 No, she said that Ilhan Omar supports Sharia law. Oh, right. And that under Sharia, you know, these different groups are marginalized and oppressed. And that was it. And I said, you mean to tell me out of everything she's done, it was the criticizing a politician that got her the ax on this platform? I mean, that's what all the politicians are doing to each other all the time. And now she's actually a politician, you know, and they won't restore her.
Starting point is 01:11:21 That's that's the precedent. This is this is going to put the squeeze on them. It's going to make them as blatant, put their hypocrisy out there as blatantly as possible. But if there's one thing that we've learned so far, there's no shame. Yeah. And,
Starting point is 01:11:37 and they always double down. Yup. There's no backtracking. There's no compromising. There's no, you know, my bad on that one. No, they, they have to double down. So, uh,
Starting point is 01:11:47 it'll be interesting to see how this plays out, but I just want to say one thing about Laura Loomer. I met Laura Loomer back a long time ago, years ago when she just had literally a couple thousand followers and she was at project Veritas. And, uh, it was clear to me then that she had an unstoppable will to succeed. There is absolutely no question about that. She me then that she had an unstoppable will to succeed. There is absolutely no question about that. She told me that she was getting anxious, being at the desk, and wanted to get out there and do stuff. And, well, guess what, man?
Starting point is 01:12:13 She got out there. She did stuff. She got bands. She did more. She's punk rock. She, like, co-opted the system. Quick side note, I went to Evergreen state college to speak at a class there and i thought that this was going to be an excellent like news event for me so i go all
Starting point is 01:12:32 the way out to washington i speak at evergreen state college right after the brett weinstein all that stuff right nobody knows you want to know why well not maybe this isn't the only reason but you want to know what happened the day that i'm at i'm at evergreen jack murphy democrat to deplorables at evergreen state college here to like you know be a part of the whole conversation the weinstein thing the whole thing that very day laura loomer changed herself to the front door of twitter and she hijacked all of twitter trending number one so like she knows and she's driven and you know i would not doubt her ability to see this thing all the way through and once she gets if she gets in i mean who knows who knows so kudos to laura on that win congratulations laura i mean it yeah i don't i don't follow her
Starting point is 01:13:18 policy wise yeah i think she's absolutely been she said bombastic things on social media and she's been criticized for it. But to the people who underestimated her, boy, are they going to get a reckoning now. 100%. I think she very well could win. I'm pretty sure she's betting on it. When she announced she was running and I saw this, I was like, she's in a D plus nine district? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Is that, I'm like, what's the strategy behind that? Well, it's Trump's Mar-a-Lago district. Right. And I think when you have a will of pure fire, like she does, no, I mean, it's,
Starting point is 01:13:48 it's funny because for all of the things she's been made fun of all the stunts she's done, it's all worked. Yep. Indeed. And so it's funny when, when people laugh and I'm like, you realize it's part of the game.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Yep. When she was, when she chained herself to the door of Twitter and everyone on Twitter is laughing, it's like they banned her. And then she dominated the platform. Yep. Yeah. platform. You underestimate your enemy at your own peril. Well, it's an interesting sort of thing to look at on a bigger level, which is if you want to be either an activist, a journalist, a media person, and you're coming into it with no established
Starting point is 01:14:19 professional network, you don't have corporate backing, you're not just, oh, I got hired at New York Times and I got a blue check with 50 followers. You have to earn it. You don't have corporate backing. You're not just, Oh, I got hired at New York times and I got a blue check with 50 followers. You, you have to earn it. Yep. You have to earn it. And one of the ways people ask me, how do you grow on Twitter? I'm like, and I read these guys are like tweet every day and add value. I'm like, nah, that's not going to do it. You have to literally become the news. You have to like make the news happen or become something we're talking about or become an event. And Laura went out there and she earned all this attention through her work. So whether or not you agree with her policies or whatnot, it is sort of a good example of new media, like how to build that capital. Think about the amount of, I don't know what you'd call it, strategy, whatever, to take
Starting point is 01:15:04 over the news cycle yeah more than once i know yeah repeatedly and so when i see these journalists laughing and making fun of her i'm like you realize that's the point she she's she just made you all give her all of your attention and that's a lot of what got trump trump uh elected was that the media couldn't shut up about him made you look and now sure enough laura Loomer is winning the primary. Well, one of the key fundamental elements of persuasion is attention. Attention is influence, right? So she's getting that attention and she is earning her influence. What she does with it, we'll see.
Starting point is 01:15:36 But it is a good example of how to build capital and power within an environment which is already saturated. There's already saturated. Yep. Right? There's already a million players. Everybody has a phone and a Twitter account except for Laura. And yet, you know, she made her way all the way up from zero to this through sheer force of will in only a matter of a couple of years. Yeah. 630,000 followers on Parler, though. Outstanding.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Once, you know, given access to a new platform with followers, but the reason I did want to bring up Laura is not, you know, to necessarily get into the, the controversy over, you know, her character. No,
Starting point is 01:16:13 it was specifically how she should, she should absolutely be reinstated. A hundred percent. This is, this is actually, this war, this is, this is very,
Starting point is 01:16:20 very worrying that we come to a point now you could be 16 years old and get banned from Twitter because you're a dumb kid. Now you're in your 30s and you're cut out from political life because the social media platforms where people use for commerce, for communications have banned you from past discretions. That to me is scary. Yeah. Shouldn't she at least be allowed to have a campaign account that's run by staff that tweets policy ideas? 100%. I think so for sure. Yeah. And now we're seeing the future that's being carved out by these lunatics. And I think Jack Dorsey, you know, I think he's a figurehead. I don't think he has any real power. Yeah. He's sweet. He whispers all the sweet nothings in the
Starting point is 01:16:57 world about a decentralized social media and the paths to redemption that never come to fruition. Instead, it's a publicly traded company that is desperate for a clean image and will nuke anybody who they think threatens their advertising and their dollars or their stock value. They don't care about politics. They don't care about civic duty. They don't care about the presidency, our government, keeping our country safe. They said it to me. They're a global company. I get emails and it's like, your tweet was reported, but we found no violation of German law. You ever get one of those emails?
Starting point is 01:17:27 Not from a different country. No, I get it. I get it from from America. Definitely. But not about German. Yeah, I've received emails. It says your account was reported, but we found no violations of German law. It means people in Germany are reporting it.
Starting point is 01:17:40 I have before, you know, we've seen a lot of people get the notice. It notices from, I think, Pakistan saying you found to be in violation of Pakistani law. And I've seen a lot of conservatives get mad about that. Why is Twitter sending me that I violated Pakistani law? I'm not Pakistani. And I actually think it's a good thing they're doing this because now, you know, if you go to that country, they're going to arrest you. Right. Because you blasphemed, you know, the prophet or something.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Right. Terrifying. That part the prophet or something. Right. Terrifying. That part. All of it, actually. We're addicted to social media. I'm glad to see Parler getting the attention that it's getting and becoming more and more prominent. Did you hear about my fiasco with Parler? Yes, I did.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Yeah, I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. They purged your account where they deleted everything? Yeah, I signed up. Within two days, I had like 1,400 followers. I followed zero. My first few, what do you call them, parlays were asking them about their terms of service. They started deleting my questions about terms of service selectively.
Starting point is 01:18:36 And then they banned my account. And then I actually got the CEO on the line, on the phone, because I raised a stink on Twitter. And it was a hot topic. So it got tweeted all up the chain. on the line, on the phone, because I raised a stink on Twitter and it was a hot topic, so it got tweeted all up the chain. And the CEO at Parler and I had a conversation where he promised me that the terms of service were just boilerplate and just lawyer stuff and it was all the lawyer's fault.
Starting point is 01:18:57 But I gave Parler a shot. It's just they banned me within five seconds. I think what we need, first and foremost, Section 230 reform. I've talked about it quite a bit. Companies use this. There's this law called Section 230. Most of you are probably familiar, but for those that aren't, it shields them from personal, you know, the company's liability.
Starting point is 01:19:20 If I go on Twitter and I defame libel, slander Jack, Jack can't sue Twitter. He has to sue me. Section 230 guards them. But it also gives them specific exemptions for what they can remove without being considered a publisher for the purpose of lawsuits. I believe it should be specifically illegal speech like threats, incitement to violence, explaining how to commit crimes, things like that. They should be able to remove that and other certain issues. Now, we had Bill Ottman, the CEO of Mines, on the show on Monday, and he made a good point. What about a Christian blog that is now forced to host pornography because it's legal? So they should have a right to remove stuff, but it becomes
Starting point is 01:19:59 particularly challenging. I think that's an important path forward. But in terms of censorship, we need to find a way to guarantee that people can't be banned, period. And so I think there's something called the Fediverse. I'm not sure if you've ever heard of it. It's probably pretty technical. Here's how it would work. You wouldn't create a Twitter account. You'd create your own website. And then people would subscribe kind of like an RSS feed or whatever. So when you post, you know, I'll do air quotes, a tweet, a simple post. What's really happening is you're just posting to your own website, but other people auto pull it to their feed. So they have a newsfeed on their own websites. So basically no one can ban you. It's your site. People subscribe kind of like email, but
Starting point is 01:20:37 I think a twitch is something similar to that. I gave that a shot as well. But again, you know, there's this critical mass with the networks that's so important which is why Twitter is what it is you know I think about what it would be like to have Twitter taken away from me you know it's it's it's concerning you know and not necessarily just for like business side but just like just it's part of my life you know and that's where virtually almost 100 percent now of my friends social life professional life clients customers network everything in my life that i talk to every day came through my experience on twitter and we've been dming to even set the show
Starting point is 01:21:20 yeah you know we go on twitter i'm like yo j. Yeah. So I can see why somebody like Laura would and anybody who gets banned from it would feel, you know, a lot of negative feelings about that. And wouldn't it? This would be literary, right? Like this would be this would be a literary story. back on gets rejected decides i'm gonna do something about this goes down florida gets elected to congress goes to congress gets on the right committees makes a stake and somehow pushes reform for social media through our legislature that would be freaking amazing i kind of think that that will happen yeah because it's a great character arc i i i just gotta say considering what she's been able to pull off i would not be surprised if she wins she gets in yeah she slams her face on the table and says this is unacceptable i am a member of congress how how am i how do i not have access to my constituents through digital media and i wouldn't be surprised if she wins it I think that the overall level of the understanding demonstrated of technology by Congress
Starting point is 01:22:31 at the last round of hearings has actually increased right it seems as though they're starting to actually understand what the real issues are yeah I follow a guy Matt Stoller wonderful guy great book Goliath people should read about it you were talking about antitrust earlier. He's a big antitrust guy. And he was talking about and just remarking openly how the caliber of the questions, the understanding demonstrated by the Congress about these issues has actually grown quite a bit. Because the first round of hearings that they did a year or two ago, you know, I mean, there was just senators up there there just being like so now tell me how do you send a tweet yeah you know and and now that now they really are digging into the serious issues so there's progress there who was it who like asked i can't remember someone asked
Starting point is 01:23:14 one of the tech ceos he asked sundar pichai about an iphone was that ted cruz or something no ted's actually had some pretty good intel i've seen him cite project veritas research and stuff up there in a hearing so he he's on the ball But there are some other people that certainly are not. But Laura would certainly bring a different flavor and a new energy to these investigations. And something's going to come of that. That's an amazing... You can write that. You can write it. No one would believe it. I'm not a fan of i guess negative and aggressive rhetoric i don't like insulting people or being mean so i think there are things that i would you know be very critical of of laura loomer over yes but i think having a staunch defender of free speech with that
Starting point is 01:23:56 much energy yeah i think whether you agree with her or not that kind of energy in politics is desperately needed i'm not saying her personal politics that i don't i haven't gone over her her stance on many issues but it feels like a lot of a lot of congress a lot of the senate is just do nothing you know do nothing politicians who want the keys to the castle because they'll get a fat paycheck they can i think politics attracts low t like low skill low intellect people who want an easy path towards some kind of name in the history books. So they're like, I don't know how to do anything. I'll just tell people they want to hear so that they elect me.
Starting point is 01:24:30 And then I get to be, you know, put on the little little chart of people who have been here. Right. Well, now that's Joe Biden for sure. Definitely. But that is not Donald Trump. So there you go. And it's not Laura Loomer. She's there to bring a reckoning to the people who, for real, I mean. Vengeance. Yes. I mean, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:50 You play dirty games. You get, you know. You get what you deserve. Well, I don't want to say it too aggressively, but an equal and opposite reaction. Yeah. You ban people. You shut them out. Eventually, someone's going to bite back.
Starting point is 01:25:03 And they're going to come back. And now you're going to say, if they let laura loomer keep her twitter account she wouldn't be in congress but this is what this is what happens when you underestimate your your opponents yeah and someone with a will like her she's going to be in congress and she's going to be 10 times the thorn in their side then she would have been on twitter but they couldn't help themselves no it's the stupid games they play. They don't, instead of saying, I don't like what you have to say, mute. They say, I don't like what you have to say,
Starting point is 01:25:30 I'm going to try and destroy you. Yeah. You know what is troubling now that I think about it is this is presenting a situation in which now we're going to have some precedent if Twitter continues to officially ban, if she gets elected. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:44 And Twitter continues to officially ban if she gets elected yeah and twitter continues to officially ban like a sitting elected congressman or congresswoman then that is not that much farther from then just like banning a presidential candidate exactly they've already said that you know donald trump can tweet things and if they break the rules we'll flag them right that means today someone who's 25 who could possibly be a future president could get banned for saying the same thing as our current president that makes no sense right our current president is speaking if you repeat him you'll get banned and then you can't when you become president you have no access dude if he the the the moment his term is up whether it's at the end of this year or four years from now, like literally the moment that the clock goes like, his Twitter account's gone.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Don't you think? Yeah. I don't think it'll be a hammer drop snap because they love making money off him. Right. I think Trump saved Twitter. Yeah. I do. Politics saved a lot of media companies.
Starting point is 01:26:42 This Trump and politics and this 2016 stuff. Absolutely. Before Trump, Twitter was actually hard to use, confusing, and it was losing users. Because it used to be about following celebrities and celebrity gossip. Then Trump started using it. And it just exploded because now his supporters were signing up. His haters were signing up and i think the reason they won't ban him is because he's the lynchpin now they pull that
Starting point is 01:27:10 pin out the whole platform unravels becomes boring yeah and there's no conversation anymore that is possible so i but you're but you're right in the sense that if he's out of office he doesn't provide that service anymore he's no longer a strong voice he'll he'll still have his voice he'll still have millions voice. He'll still have millions and millions of followers. He'll still be a former president. And he'll chime in periodically, but it won't have the immediate impact as he's no longer in office. And I know they're all worried about it. There was a report from Digiday saying that media companies are panicking over what happens if Trump loses. Yeah, their revenue is going to get cut in half.
Starting point is 01:27:41 I love it when he says that just blatantly straight out to them. You guys love me. You need me. I'm making you money. Yep. It's awesome. You know what, man? I say this every time it happens. When Bloomberg started dumping money on YouTube, I was like, make it rain, Bloomberg.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Those Bloomberg bucks fall all over YouTube with those YouTube ad revenue. I will absolutely take his money to make fun of him because I'm not making videos for him. But what he does, what Biden does, what they do is they like putting ads on videos that challenge them so they can push back. And it's I don't think it's going to work. No one's going to trust your trust, your canned advertisement over me chilling and having a long, you know, giving you a long rant about my ideas. But Donald Trump just did. I think it was like one of the biggest ad buys ever. A seven figure like seven figures in a a single month just blanketed this month.
Starting point is 01:28:29 And the Democrats didn't do anything. And you know, Joe Biden's been raising money. Why won't they spend it? Why won't they spend it? They're going to save it. They don't even know how to spend it. They don't know how to do social media like Trump knows how to do it. And even so, Trump could be doing it even better.
Starting point is 01:28:45 I mean, there's so much more he could be doing, I think. But he's setting the pace, and he is the one out front. And whether they say it or not, he's probably in the lead at the moment anyway. Right on. You want to take some questions from the audience? Yeah, let's do it, man. So these are just general Super Chats. So I have no idea what people are asking, but I'm sure there are some good questions.
Starting point is 01:29:05 We're going to jump over to Super Chats. If you haven't already, you can hit the Like button. It really does help out the channel. Make sure you subscribe because we're live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. And you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast. You can also check out my main channel over at YouTube.com slash TimCast. Do you want to mention your channels and everything? Yeah, JackMurphyLive on Twitter, Jack Murphy, live.com.
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Starting point is 01:29:37 this book, Democrats are deplorable. Get it on Amazon. I, uh, two and a half years later, and it is still selling very well. The,
Starting point is 01:29:43 the, the attention put on it, uh, is, is continuing to grow. Uh, and, it years later and it is still selling very well the the the attention put on it is continuing to grow and it creeps up into like the top ten in anthropology every so often so it was up there with anti-racist and white fragility right now the top 20 just the other day yeah you know so and that's without any corporate backers. Tim Poole is my largest corporate backer. Just by having him on the show, I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:10 It feels so much like a late night show. Like I'm here, I'm joined by Jack Murphy whose book is coming out. Hold on, let me get a sip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got the mug now. I got the Democrats of Portable mug. Thank you, Jack.
Starting point is 01:30:21 You're welcome. Let's read some of these super chats. Mr. Scratch, the first super chat said, don't get complacent. Remember to vote. I say it all the you, Jay. Let's read some of these super chats. Mr. Scratch, the first super chat said, don't get complacent. Remember to vote. I say it all the time, man. We can sit here and talk about how we think the Democrats are going to lose, but it could be their secret strategy. The one joke we make often is that Joe Biden's going to walk out, you know, aching and shaking, and then he's going to somersault forward like Willy Wonka and spring up into life. And it was all a ploy to get everybody, you know, to underestimate him and then he's going to somersault forward like willy wonka and spring up into life and it was all ploy to get everybody you know to underestimate him and then swoop in
Starting point is 01:30:47 for that victory i'm meant to do that yeah exactly oh you guys got it yeah first thessalonian says tim will you be getting mods troll spammers are infecting the chat great job as always maybe i mean i can't i can't commit to anything right now because we're just doing the show but we'll have a conversation about it. Let's see. Seven Killer says, hey, can we get some public outcry about the movie Cuties coming out of Netflix? It's a you-know-what fantasy. It's absolutely disgusting.
Starting point is 01:31:13 I don't know what that is. I saw something about that, and yes, it looks really disgusting, and it needs probably a little attention. I don't even know if this is something we can converse about, though. Wow. On Netflix? Yes. Creepy. Yeah. Incredibly. attention i don't even know if this is something we can converse about though which is on netflix yes creepy yeah incredibly graph von tyrol says go buy a michelin tire with this super chat
Starting point is 01:31:30 but you know some people were saying like good year is an american company yeah and so now trump is saying go to foreign competitors well you know i tweeted out a handy dandy list of american tire manufacturers today just in case anybody wanted to know with a big red hand drawn line right through good year because man this this you know boycotts i think are sometimes kind of stupid but we do have to take a very serious attack on the infiltration of all these ideas into all of our institutions and corporations we otherwise it's not going to stop exactly that it's because these companies don't see pushback from conservatives or moderates they just see the far left that's the only thing that threatens them so they just go for it yep and that's going to be bad because
Starting point is 01:32:13 then regular people are going to stop speaking out against it because everyone's doing it you know the goal of the flow yep aerodynamic says our boy yuri b got his speech used to promote the new call of duty teaser set in the Cold War. It's framed around the Soviet subversion tactics. Cool. Very cool. You're familiar with the Yuri, was it Yuri Bezmenov? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Yeah, the propaganda video. Yeah, yeah. Super popular online. Daniel Ashley says, remember when Goodyear Tires was producing defective tires causing SUVs to roll over? Pepperidge Farm remembers. No. I'm not sure if I know the one. Was that a thing
Starting point is 01:32:45 i don't know reaching back reaching back all right let's see if we can pop up here we go we got gareth green he says individual liberties and elected representatives existed in some parts of europe especially england long before 1776 no taxation without representation was an appeal to english tradition look up edward ii Charles I, and Oliver Cromwell. Yeah, 1215 was the Magna Carta. That's a long ways back. Jimpina says, how come Jimmy Dore is flooded by,
Starting point is 01:33:13 flooded my Chinese communist propaganda? Creepy AF. Do you mean by? I would assume so. I don't know. Is that what's happening? I don't know. Al Dente says,
Starting point is 01:33:22 are we living in Pink Floyd's The Wall movie? I don't know. Are we? We have great answers tonight. Yeah, no, I don't know al dente says are we living in pink floyd's the wall movie i don't know are we we have great answers tonight yeah no i don't know no everyone's like i have no idea i don't know i used to i used to watch that movie and listen to that album over and over and over and over again when i was a kid though are we there yet yeah i don't know sean scheissler says hey tim would love to see you on with officer tatum live chat sure the price is right review says sup guys i don't know if you've seen yet the latest update to james younger in texas well with the court ruling his mother can force force change james into a girl against his will and dad is forced to pay for it have you have you heard about that
Starting point is 01:34:00 not that particular case but certainly i have tracked these issues where parental consent is being violated and, you know, your guardianship is being violated. And man, if divorce and separation wasn't hard enough on families and on children in the first place, adding a new layer like this where the court is going to decide to make you give your kid a surgery or transition or mutilate their body or give them hormones. I mean, wow. If that's not an incentive, if that is not a disincentive towards natalism, marriages, families, I don't know what is. If the government is going to step in and force you like a slave to pay money for your child to be mutilated before your eyes against your will? It's going to get bad in this country, man.
Starting point is 01:34:49 That's serious stuff, man. I mentioned that video from Shasta County, and I think you said you weren't familiar with it. It's just some guy at a city council meeting or something or a county meeting, and he said you're lucky right now that regular citizens are being peaceful, but he basically says that he went to war before to defend this country and he doesn't want to but he'll do it again and that people are going to you know start fighting back essentially i don't want to quote him too much because it was very spicy to say the least yeah but i think stories like this you're going to start i mean gun sales are through the roof through the roof sold out you you you
Starting point is 01:35:25 have a a court mandate that your child is going to go through what you know life altering and in in certain ways limiting surgery like you're gonna you're gonna mutilation but i mean ending their ability to reproduce is outright your your bloodline done gone yeah you Yeah. You're going to see some people get real violent real quick. Yeah. This is the state taking people's children away from them. It is very, it is like the most serious elemental issue. You can turn your water off. That's pretty bad.
Starting point is 01:35:56 Yeah. Okay. But if you're going to make me work like a slave to take my money to mutilate my child against my will, I mean, they make movies about the kind of reaction to that exactly indeed yep i want to get michael douglas yep yeah uh so i'm i'm being careful not to get too heavy into language but just just i want you to picture this a mother grizzly bear and her baby and what would happen if you tried to say force that baby you had a knife and you're going to injure it wait we see what that bear
Starting point is 01:36:25 does see what that bear would do to you and then think about what happens when you know good regular people are staring down the barrel of the state and the state saying we're taking your child and you're it's going to get nasty and now let's remember the root of this the root of this is because feminist the like ideas and and and and their mission mutated and they grabbed onto this trans issue. They put it on the cover of National Geographic a few years ago. It is now socially contagious. It's hip. It's kind of like a hip thing, right?
Starting point is 01:36:57 When I was in school, it was like you were like a freak or a dork or a weirdo or a goth kid or whatever. And maybe now people are thinking I question my identity. So all this stuff is political power maneuvering that is meant to wrest control away from people like me and other folks. And it's sacrificing children at the altar of power and politics. And it's the most disgusting thing. I write about 25 pages on it in my book this is why i kind of feel like it is chaotic with no end there's no plan there's no goal it's just
Starting point is 01:37:31 random completely random because when you think about what they claim their plans are they don't actually implement what their plans are there's no equality there's no justice it's just oppression across the board for literally everybody the end result is everything falls apart and everyone dies. Just no joke. The end result is everything burns to the ground. We're at a point where mainstream culture essentially only allows you to entertain destructive forces. And because of that, as moderates and conservatives and those who challenge the status quo are being banned and silenced, then the only thing left is a conversation that's increasingly more and more unhinged to the point where you actually had a Democrat chain himself to a mailbox in Oregon. See, I'm not even, it's not even a joke. A Democrat literally chained, I mean, he didn't
Starting point is 01:38:14 like chain himself tightly. He threw a chain over himself and a mailbox, took pictures of it and says, Donald Trump's not getting this one. No one's stealing your mailboxes it's just completely insane they they they start pushing unhinged broken reality but you think i think the mailbox thing is a perfect example of their worldview being their worldview being just insane paranoia and you think about what happens then when the state starts mandating it what would happen right now if a governor came out and mandated that all of the mailboxes that had been stolen, you know, be put back and that those who stole them would be charged with theft of government property. And the mailman's like, but I was told that we were just relocating to more. They're moving them or replacing them.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Yeah. Refurbishing them. Right. Painting them. It's normal. Happens all the time. I mean, we can take one minute to talk about this. The United States Postal Service has been under pressure for a long time to cut prices and to cut expenses, rather, from administrations from both parties for years and years and years and years. It's like an ethos throughout the U.S. Postal Service.
Starting point is 01:39:12 We've got to shrink. They've even tried to figure out how to stop delivering the mail six days a week, do it for five days a week. They've been trying to cut overtime, cut everything. Everybody knows we're trying to cut expenses. And then all of a sudden, Democrats are like, hey, you doing this thing that we've demanded that you do after all this time. You guys are terrible, horrible, evil people working for Donald Trump. And it's like we have Russiagate all over again. And like, I wonder, 600,000 people work for the United States Postal Service.
Starting point is 01:39:36 They have friends and family and colleagues and neighbors. And now they're being under attack and questioned. The election was decided by 77,000 votes last time. Yeah. Right. What happens if you just basically flush a million people down the toilet by saying that they're acting in a political way when in fact they're doing exactly what you've demanded of them for the last 25 years yep now my bigger concern is when we talk about a judge making orders and it moves to the point
Starting point is 01:39:59 where they actually arrest the post office guy and he's like but i was just moving the mailbox i don't understand. Well, you're stealing mailboxes for Trump's conspiracy. That's where I feel like it goes. Yeah. Well, they're setting the stage for yet another four years of questioning the legitimacy of the election. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:40:16 Very clear. Exactly. Trump's going to get reelected, and they're going to say he stole it, and here's how. We demand an investigation, and we are going to get Postalgate or whatever whatever yep and they're going to and they're and they're going to try and jam trump up and not let him do his job yeah and they're going to use this to do it yeah i mean remember the phrase going postal yes yes constantly lately right okay so like going postal has been in our vernacular for how long and you're going to tell me that all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:40:42 just now under trump the post office is inefficient and we don't like the way it operates come on fedex exists specifically because we don't trust the united states postal service to send our valuable and important things over in a timely fashion right like this is common knowledge but you know that the the postal service union endorsed biden yes so why let me let me ask you a question if if if you know let's say you're voting for that the Postal Service Union endorsed Biden. Yes. So why? Let me ask you a question. If, you know, let's say you're voting for Biden or a Democrat, and a guy shows up to your house, and he's got a MAGA hat on,
Starting point is 01:41:12 and he's like, I'm here to take your ballot to go turn it in for you. Yeah, right. You're going to be like, get out of here. Yeah. So why? In New Jersey, the governor just mandated vote by mail for everybody. Oh, my God. I'm mad.
Starting point is 01:41:25 I don't want to do that. I do not want a mail-in ballot my polling place is a couple blocks away i can i got no problem to walk over you know and just fill something out drop in a box wait they're they're explicitly prohibiting you from voting in person there are some in-person polling places but they are doing an executive order to mandate universal mail-in voting. Yikes. I got a mail-in ballot here for someone who doesn't live here. And I don't have to do with it. What do I do? Throw it in the garbage?
Starting point is 01:41:51 Yes. I almost jokingly made a joke, but I'm not going to make a joke about that. Don't do anything with it other than throw it in the garbage. But I don't even know if I can do that. Burn it. I don't know if I can destroy someone else's ballot. So it's just sitting waiting for someone to let me know what I'm supposed to do with it. Just mark return to sender and put it back. I guess.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Right. That's a good point. But I don't know if I'm allowed to mark it either. Right. It is a. I'm not going to touch it. I'm not playing games. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:16 Seriously. It's sent here. It's someone else's ballot. The election's over. But I still don't know. Can I write return to sender on someone else's mail when it's a when it's a ballot touchy yeah now the governor so trump is suing over this and i'm i'm happy because i'm i am really angry that they're trying to force me to do vote by mail i'm not gonna drop my my
Starting point is 01:42:36 ballot's important to me yeah i'm not gonna go drop it in a mailbox and walk away and then hope the postal you know guy gets it done right no i've had mail get lost all the time yeah i want to go to my polling station at the local building where I know the people who are there, who I voted there before. I know the process. I know what I'm familiar with. You know what the crazy thing about this mail-in ballot thing is that you know who's most
Starting point is 01:42:56 negatively impacted by it? Minorities. First-time voters. Are they trying to lose? In Washington, D.C., they just officially eliminated the only way there was to register to vote online. Really? In D.C.? In D.C.
Starting point is 01:43:12 They just shut it down. There was a website service and they shut it down. So now new time, new voters, people who are first time voters who have moved to D.C. now have to register in person somewhere in the middle of Corona. But they have eliminated the way to register in person somewhere in the middle of corona but they have eliminated the way to register online so none of that one is dumb or diabolical pretty sure that one's done that sounds yeah i think that one's dumb yeah yeah it's just through sheer incompetence right so here's a question for you tim what is what day is the election going to be decided? Oh, you mean we have no idea? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:46 No one does. Not November 3rd. Right. Do you think December 1st? January 1st? February? How long does it go? How long was Bush v. Gore?
Starting point is 01:43:55 That was like until December or something, wasn't it? So my understanding, I don't know. I don't know about Bush v. Gore. I was too young. I think I was like 13 or not even. Yeah, I think I was 13. But I was reading a Newsweek article and they said that by December 14th, if there's no electoral vote decision, then the Supreme Court steps in, like ends it, and then it goes to House delegations. Do you think that that's the actual, actual, actual master plan?
Starting point is 01:44:22 I don't know. Right now, Republicans have the state delegations. The plan may be to jam up the election. This is the Democratic plan. If the Democrats take the House and they take over the House delegations after November. So let's say the November election happens and the local elections and the congressional elections are wrapped up within a couple of days. But Trump isn't. Then comes December 14th and it goes to say it goes to the house delegations of which i'm sorry republicans have the majority newsweek was actually the founder of msnbc said trump would win regardless of the popular vote maybe they know he's going to win so they're
Starting point is 01:44:58 trying to make sure he wins in such a questionable way that they can always say no matter what he does he's not a legitimate president definitely the vote will be jammed up december 14th scota steps in they complain they egg his car like they did with bush they say he's not my president this is this right now he is your president and they hate it so there's a meme among trump supporters saying he's your president definitely you know but after this it you know trump will win and then they'll use this as an excuse in 2024 to undo the things he did right trump is going to do a lot to shore up you know our borders uh would you say onshore manufacturing bringing these factories back for sure um getting our troops back and they're going to argue that it was all putin it was all a scheme it was all scam yeah russia gates
Starting point is 01:45:42 already back they're saying a new report came out and it proves collusion and i'm like you never stop with this you know apparently they don't never never diabolical yep so we got some more super chats here's from have tomey says quote it is one of history's ironies that communism advertised as a classless society tended to breed a privileged class of feudal proportions henry kissinger any good tips when in a counter protest? You got any good tips for in a counter protest? Oh, you know, that's interesting. I am not an advocate of outside public confrontation.
Starting point is 01:46:17 And honestly, I think that going in counter protesting in a way that's going to breed confrontation is not a good idea. That's not something that I support when I go into these protests and the riots, like I'm glad for the Corona Corona right now because I go in full cover, full sort of, full sort of like scarf around, you know,
Starting point is 01:46:38 and a hat pulled down and no identifying characteristics. And I try to stay quiet into the side, but definitely with the camera up and going I i'm not looking for any confrontation in fact i think it's best just to let these people look like idiots and let them do their idiot thing until of course or unless of course you know they bust into your private community or like running up on your house and whatever but like you know just just in a in open space you know that's just not my thing i i mean i fully support everybody's right to protest and free speech and freedom assembly and you know, just in an open space, you know, that's just not my thing. I mean, I fully support everybody's right to protest and free speech and freedom of assembly and, you know, go for it. But like, that's just, this is not me right now.
Starting point is 01:47:12 I'm trying to find other ways, leverage, other than that. A lot of people need to realize, too, that you'll be at one of these protests. Antifa will be smashing things. They could punch you in the face 50 times. The moment you punch back, that's the clip. All the clip would be is you hitting the guy. No one will know why you hit him. No one will know it was self-defense.
Starting point is 01:47:32 And that's why, I mean, the game's rigged. Yeah, man, when I go out, I've got not only do I have the camera in the phone, but I've got like a GoPro 8 chest mount running constantly too. Very smart. So that anything, anybody that comes up to me, anything, it's all 100% recorded. It's all being streamed and recorded.
Starting point is 01:47:50 So I got to have something, something to defend me. That's actually what I do. What I used to do is I would have a chest mount for my phone and I would turn the stream on. And then when it was downtime, I would just click it into the mount and then just go about my business. The stream was live the whole time.
Starting point is 01:48:04 Oh, there you go. We got a super chat here from Jim Pina. He says, Celebrating the anniversary with my wonderful Latina wife today. Stay awesome and please spin that UFO. Do you want to give it a spin? This is complicated.
Starting point is 01:48:16 I'm not supposed to just smack it, right? No, don't smack it. It'll pop off the base. I just got to spray it? You just hold it and give it some air at a slight angle. Just pick one of the angles and there you go.
Starting point is 01:48:25 Now you got the UFO spin. Celebratory spin. Just like that. So, Sojong the Great says, with a 1776 Super Chat, by the way, we need a central mailing address for all ballots that are recorded as being sent to places where they are not living. Trump needs an office to notate the names, count registrations, and compare recordings. Sounds like, yeah? Yeah. Justin says, in Fresno County, we have these ballot boxes
Starting point is 01:48:51 specifically for ballots around the county. They get picked up every day from the county clerk office. You know, I mean, if I could, if they mailed me a ballot and then I could go and bring it specifically to the location, I'm okay with that. What I'm not okay with beyond this, though, universal mail-in ballots, is that someone's going to go around stealing ballots. It's that easy. And then now they're talking about fixing, you know, they want this new amended voter signature verification where you get a chance to actually fix your signature. I think it's very likely that what's gonna happen trump's gonna win an election night i do win in air quotes like he's gonna get the in-poll in-person votes and then they're going to keep finding ballots yeah and then it's gonna be
Starting point is 01:49:34 like oh a little bit more oh a little bit more oh there it is biden won yep and trump's gonna challenge it it's gonna be drawn out too long think about this the united states police service has been about this. The United States Postal Service has been around as long as the country has been. We've voted for as long as the country has been around. When has anybody ever thought that we should mandate mail-in voting? Yeah. Why now? 2020. 225 years later.
Starting point is 01:50:00 The 11th hour. Yeah. When people used to ride on horseback and travel and like you know walk for miles or whatever yeah and now we're gonna like do something that no one ever believed in that seems a little diabolical to me yeah that actually that may be diabolical yeah i put my vote for that there we go it's a whole new show yeah yeah i like it i think when they're trying to ban voter id and there's i think what 37 states have voter id laws yeah they're trying to ban that as part of their covid relief that's that's that's diabolical okay to be fair they've been pushing
Starting point is 01:50:31 that for a while that's right right no i'm not but still it is very it has always been diabolical yeah xavier says hey tim have you seen that facebook has said that in order to use your oculus vr headset you need a facebook. Me and most other people who are into VR are going to ditch Oculus and use anything else where there's still, I think, Vive, right? Is that what it's called? What's it called? HTC Vive? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:50:52 Yeah, I don't know. Are you big into VR at all? I am not. I am a Twitter guy. Twitter guy. Brewer says, my company sent notice re-HR implicit bias and diversity training.
Starting point is 01:51:03 Yikes. I work for a faith-based tech company i messaged back that i'm not doing it i wouldn't yeah i mean it's but look i i left the news industry because of the wokeness you know i was like i don't want to ruin it i'm not going to do what you say i'm not going to do the news the way you wanted to do it and my contract ends it's time for me to go because some people want the money and they'll just say whatever they're told to say and just quietly hum along yeah this one's personal for me i mean wokeness kicked me out of my last industry which was education right i got fired because of wokeness and implicit by like i spoke
Starting point is 01:51:35 up in a staff meeting and i was like you guys know that the implicit association test has been declared by the creator to not be predictive and that you can't really remedy it. And they're like, we don't care. Right. Right. And I've actually just recently sent a FOIA request to my old employer, quasi-federal agency, demanding every document, email, phone call, teleconference, everything that has anything to do with institutional racism, systemic racism, implicit association test, white supremacy, yada, yada, yada.
Starting point is 01:52:04 All the budgets time spent professional contracts everything comprehensive and you know you know what the response was what was it sorry corona we're closed for real convenient timing indefinite indefinitely they haven't said that they do not have to respond to freedom of information Act requests due to Corona. Wow, man. Dude. We've been trying to get this new property, and we're a week delayed now. It seems like there is something trying to prevent anything
Starting point is 01:52:36 from happening right now, almost. All these offices are closed. Nobody can work. I mean, it feels like it. I get it. The Democrats literally shut down all of these different offices and businesses. So, yes, it's extremely difficult. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:49 It's really annoying that you can't like it's an arbitrary just stop to trade. That's offensive to me. Like, I can't be like, I have a book. Good, sir. Would you like to purchase it? Unless you go through Amazon. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:03 The big massive corporations, the big box stores, they're fine fine but it's a small mom and pop shops it's our offices you know it was scary to me because my my id was about to expire i can't go to the dmv we i drove up it was closed dude i thought i lost my driver's license like a couple months ago and so i went online and i filled out the application to get a new one sent to me in my address. Luckily, the next day I just, I just found it. Oh wow. Okay. But I still have not gotten that in the mail and it's been like two months. Whoa. Yeah. I, I was told the DMVs are closed. You have to go online. And I was like, I've got a month before I can't, my license is no good. Fortunately, after a massive like break in the database, they finally fixed it and I was able to get an update,
Starting point is 01:53:45 but it was, it was, that was, that was particularly worrisome. You know, you're going to make a requirement upon me, but give me no office to actually do it. Right.
Starting point is 01:53:52 That's how creepy things are. Again, no predictability. Yup. Instability, uncertainty. How do you, how do you plan for the future?
Starting point is 01:54:00 How do you invest in yourself? How do you invest in your community? You're a senior in high school. How do you invest in getting into college and going to in your community? You're a senior in high school. How do you invest in? Getting into college and going to college if that's what you want to do So many lost opportunities so much pain so much emotional distress everywhere right now everywhere and and it's coming at us from all directions Which is why you got to take care of yourself That's like the number one thing we could focus on right now
Starting point is 01:54:22 One of the scariest things I saw was a stat that said something like one in four 18 to 24 year olds had contemplated suicide. That's freaky. There's this, uh, this, this tech CEO whose kid he tweeted about his kid killed himself, you know, like three months into the quarantine, just because like, I guess it's, it's a kind of extreme FOMO. Your life stops. You're young, you're excited. But what people need to realize, especially about young people in this lockdown, time flies for us. But when you're young,
Starting point is 01:54:54 if you're 13... You remember when summer was long? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you're 10 years old, a year is literally one-tenth, 10% of your life. So you take these young kids and you freeze them for half a year and you're, 10% of your life. So you take these young kids and you freeze them for half a year and you're taking 5% of their life
Starting point is 01:55:08 and putting them into purgatory. Right. And they snap. Yeah. Which is why I've been just pushing as hard as I possibly can to push us education-wise to do whatever it takes
Starting point is 01:55:20 to get the schools open. Socially, they need it. But the schools are all being, they're doing indoctrination. I know, but there's a pros and cons and the cons of everybody being at home locked up by themselves may outweigh the indoctrination that you can counteract at home.
Starting point is 01:55:37 You cannot do anything at home to counteract the lack of social connection that these kids are experiencing now. Move to a red state with a promise not to vote for those same people ever again right yeah i've been talking to some friends who are moving and i said just remember if you move don't vote for the democrats anymore right because for me you know i've spent most of my life as like a social liberal center left but at this point i'm kind of like considering all the the destruction the decimation of these cities i'm
Starting point is 01:56:03 going to defer to some republicans for the being, but ones that I think are trustworthy. I might not agree with them on policy, but you know, there's, have you seen the ad for Kimberly Klasick? I have. Fantastic. Very well done. Yeah. 8 million views in an overnight, 140,000 retweets. She's a Republican running in Baltimore. And I see her as a new, energized, fresh face who I believe is passionate and wants to fix things. Well, normally I voted for Democrat, but at this point I'm like, I'm voting based on trust. I might not agree on the issues, but I agree on the passion for fixing problems. So at this point, I'm going to leave these blue areas. I'm not going to bring any of that policy with me. I've been looking where to move.
Starting point is 01:56:45 I wish I could move to Virginia, but I can't. You can't predict that. Pennsylvania, you may go. You may go for Trump this year, hopefully, but you don't know where it's going to be in four or eight or 12 years. West Virginia, Kentucky. Do I have to go all the way to Kentucky or Tennessee, South Carolina? Do I have to go there to be, like, locked in red for, you know, 20 years, 30 years? People are saying Texas, but I'm like, Texas, they're saying it's a swing state. I mean,
Starting point is 01:57:09 it's, it's, it's changing South Dakota, baby. South Dakota. Yeah. Maybe that's the answer. Christy invite us all down there. Would you? Yeah. Maybe, you know, you've got a lot of land of a party. You can get a lot of land for cheap and you can just do your thing. They got internets there? Probably bad internet. Probably bad internet. I mean, truthfully, in this whole homesteading off the grid question, it is the question of high speed internet, right? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:57:33 Like satellite internet, you can do it, but there's like a 600 millisecond delay even in the finest setups, the most expensive setups. Yep. And that would make doing something like this almost impossible. So that is the big question. You wouldn't be able to play games either yeah so no online gaming and the the the uh the transmission the data rate is really really poor you'd not be able to do a lot you might be able you could probably do a live show cell technology is good though in a lot of these places yeah so what a lot of these companies are doing is you actually just get like a 5G home router that you just put in the house.
Starting point is 01:58:07 And it links to the cell tower. Right. So that's probably a solution. They're not going to lay the cables between all the houses like they used to. Just set up one big tower and have it feed the internet. Yeah. But Elon's doing that, what is it called, Starlink or whatever? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:21 Yeah. It's low latency, low orbit satellites for anywhere you get a satellite and you can get high speed internet like normal. Boom. There you go. Let's take a couple more of these super chats. Jay Craw says it's not oppression plus power, it's the addition of power to
Starting point is 01:58:38 oppress. Carter McMillan says, Andy, no. The hypocrisy of the left is so clearly displayed in his story, it's angering so clearly displayed in his story. It's angering. Please keep sharing his story. It's what got me to finally take the red pill. Andy Nash says, Jack, I'd love to be a part of your community. I am a military veteran, and I have years of experience in electrical and mechanical engineering. Perfect. You're the right kind of guy. We've got a lot of current and former military and LEO,
Starting point is 01:59:03 people with a lot of skills. In fact, we've got guys from almost every industry and every phase of life as well too. So go down to the website, liminal-order.com and check it out. It's a community of men based on three shared values. We value personal sovereignty, masculinity, and brotherhood. And everything that we do is informed by those three values and so if you want to learn more come on down check it out send me an email jack at jackmurphylive.com cool yeah super cool let's do it let's do a couple more super chats we got uh og bachner says with over 800 ballets that were thrown out because they were for oh ballots i was like it's spelled with an e professional word guys here guys, here. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:45 That were thrown out because they were from the dead. Why I don't hear people point out that means 800 plus proven voter fraud who filled them out and mailed them. So I made a mistake when I tweeted one of these stories out. It was actually that people filled out the ballots, sent them in, then died. And so they got them and they were like, okay, these people are not registered as deceased. So we're going to throw the ballots out. Got it. Yeah. So what is the to throw the ballots out. Got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:05 So what is the qualifying moment to cast a vote? Do you have to be alive at the time it's counted or alive at the time it's cast? That's an interesting point. That is a good question. Yeah. Because maybe their ballots should be counted. They still voted. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:18 At the time. Election day. I mean, this is why you have lawyers. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. What happens if you walk into the polling station and you hit the button for trump and then go and then die on the spot yeah does it count well no definitely not if it was for trump i don't know exactly all right let's see we got here jay cross says my driver's license was stolen and i've been
Starting point is 02:00:38 waiting months to get a new one yeah that's covet man Yeah. Darun Albain says false argument. Christian blog would not be an open platform. So section 230 just means the comment section. So if a Christian blog had a comment section, people could post really messed up stuff to it. You know, Hasim Retna says left is lost. Keep up the great work, Tim Lids. And great to see Jack on. My kids are going to in-person school here in Ohio. Used to be a Cali man.
Starting point is 02:01:06 Glad to be gone. Left is lost. Definitely. Timothy Watt says, and universities are closed and students are doing online, but the tuition is full price, including housing.
Starting point is 02:01:15 I love that. You know what, man? You gotta stop. People just do what they're told. But this is 2020. It's like the year of red pills everywhere everywhere we're seeing it in education in public health in every element of politics we're just people are having these awakenings man i think i think that there's more people
Starting point is 02:01:39 waking up than going to sleep at this point definitely that that's that's the bottom line right and like and which coalition has grown over the last four years trump's coalition has grown it's it look when you look at the media i if you if you only follow the mainstream news you'd say the opposite yeah but when you follow alternative you know alternative media independent media no it's it's it's it's trump yeah it's trump more and more personalities popping up more and more followers for intellectual dark web types not necessarily trump supporters but people definitely leaving the democratic party for sure right and there's a whole slew of people academics especially out there right now who are like we've had it with the left i'm not sure where
Starting point is 02:02:19 to go next but those are the people who get into the the voting booth and they're just like and they just don't even they don't tell you later. Yep. They're not going to pull the trigger for Biden. I think there's going to be a lot of people who don't care about politics, but they've just had enough. Yeah. So you're,
Starting point is 02:02:34 you're never going to hear them. They don't care. They're not necessarily on your side. It's actually, um, I, I, I made references a couple of times cause it is a really great video,
Starting point is 02:02:41 but have you seen the Ryan log comedy videos, right? Ryan long comedy videos. Yeah, I think so. He's got a new one where it great video. But have you seen the Ryan Long comedy videos? Ryan Long comedy videos? Yeah, I think so. He's got a new one where they're creating basketball teams and there's a left and a right. And the left guy is just insulting people. He's yelling at them, calling them bigots, taking pictures of them. So funny.
Starting point is 02:02:56 One guy is like, he takes a picture of him and he picks up his phone and he goes, it's my boss. I just got fired. What? Dude. And then he hides behind another guy like, stop taking pictures of me. Yeah. And then one guy, the guy on the right goes, dude, just play with me.
Starting point is 02:03:08 He's nuts. And then when he walks over the guy with the right wing shirt says, hey, you see that Trump tweet about coronavirus was kind of reasonable, right? And then the guy goes, yeah, yeah, whatever, man. Right. But it's that. Yeah, whatever, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:19 I think there's going to be people who are like, I don't care about the Trump stuff. I don't care about the memes. I just vote for him, whatever, because these people are crazy. That's what it feels like. I think so. Good. Good. More light on the crazy is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:03:31 You know, I've heard it a lot over the past year, couple years. People said the Democrats need to be taught a lesson. They need to be told you will not win if you do this stuff, if you go crazy, if you embrace this. But I think the Democrats, look, when you've got the cdc 10 of their employees saying we want a national health crisis to be declared on racism yeah 10 of the cdc saying that then the democrats seem seem like they you know they're thinking they have no choice that's what they're going for right that's the institutional takeover that's the tyranny of the minority that is what happens when you create
Starting point is 02:04:05 academics and professionals and then put them in powerful positions within bureaucracies yep and that is the biggest stumbling block to turning this whole thing around is that the entry level mid-career and high level people in all these organizations now are woke yep and even if nobody wants it they're still going to be there so how are we going to even get them out maybe we don't maybe we just walk away walk walk away yeah uh no we create my medieval city on 90 acres with 50 000 people 90 acres huh yep you need one you need one water source like a canal or something to go through the middle you could build a walled city for 50 000 people on 90 acres maybe um so cool wyoming yeah wyoming south dakota yeah south dakota yeah yeah christy uh all i i am i'm gonna be honest i will actually start looking
Starting point is 02:04:58 at large south dakota plots of land dude i would be so down with just being a pioneer, setting up a hub somewhere and bringing, revitalizing a community or, or bringing resources to help people get jobs back. And just, uh, you know, I think too many people thought New York was where you had to be, or LA was where you had to be. I was one of those people. That's what I thought. Me too. That's all I wanted to do when I grew up was, was when I was to move to New York, that was
Starting point is 02:05:24 all I wanted. And then when I finally got the chance, I said I said no which is another story all to itself but I do remember as a kid and maybe this was just angst and teenage stuff but all I remember thinking all I want to do is be left alone just everybody leave me alone and and then I remember maybe in my 20s sometimes I would think all I want to do is be like a travel writer you know it's like go away to other places and now I'm thinking all I want to do is be like a travel writer. You know, it's like, it's like go away to other places. And now I'm thinking all I want is just like a couple hundred acres and a homestead with a walled city and like tanks,
Starting point is 02:05:52 tanks pointed at the gate, a wall. That's all I want. That's all I want. So now I'm wondering, is this, this is a consistent theme in my life, right?
Starting point is 02:05:59 Or am I just reacting to the stress either way? I don't know. It just feels right. Staying in the city doesn't feel right anymore. Yeah, right on, man. Well, with that being said, we are just a little bit over time. So I think we're going to get ready to wrap up. Again, you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, Parler at TimCast.
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Starting point is 02:06:43 the best things i've got going. I love it. So come down, check that out. JackMurphyLive.com forward slash podcast. Right on, man. Well, thanks for coming down. I appreciate it. And I appreciate the book.
Starting point is 02:06:52 Oh, yeah. Democrats are deplorable. That too. There's a book on Amazon. Yeah, actually, let's, I think I can pull up the Amazon book right here. Oh, yeah. We'll look at it. Just give a quick shout out to the book here.
Starting point is 02:07:01 Do we have a... There we go. Yeah. There we go. Democrat to deplorable on Amazon. Look, you have a... There we go. Yeah. There we go. Democrat to Deplorable on Amazon. Look, you get paperback for $10.77. Which is the absolute lowest price they allow me to go to get worldwide distribution. And $2.99, also the lowest price on Kindle.
Starting point is 02:07:15 My goal is not to make money with this, but to get it out there into the world so that people have a roadmap. They have a moral and philosophical reasoning for voting for trump over the democrats they can read themselves feel better about their decisions and give it to their friends and family which i get reports all the time people buy five copies and hand it out so get the message out there guys democrats are deplorable i think i'm gonna send one of these to come with my friends do it no for real yeah all right appreciate it man hey everybody else we will be back tomorrow at 8 p.m live there will be clips from the show up throughout the day and of course i always have yeah i work 16 hours a day i'm crazy person so
Starting point is 02:07:49 i have my regular content on my main channel which i already mentioned so uh thanks so much for hanging out we will see you all tomorrow and adios everybody bye guys thank you guys

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