Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #121 - Armed Civilians Deploy To Protect Property From BLM, R-Candidate Sean Parnell Joins
Episode Date: August 26, 2020Tim and guest Sean Parnell (GOP candidate for PA-17) discuss Sean's viral ads, his takes on current events, his history before his run, and his perspective as a military member. Guest: Sean Parnell..., congressional district candidate for PA-17 Twitter: @SeanParnellUSA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/officialseanparnell/ Website: https://seanforcongress.co Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The riots in Kenosha are disturbing, but what's more disturbing, it's this footage coming out
where Black Lives Matter is walking up to people and demanding they salute them with their
revolution fist. And I find that particularly creepy because the people who don't do it get
hounded and berated. So you literally now have zealous groups of cult-like, you know,
cult-like groups of individuals marching around demanding allegiance
to some idea that most people probably don't even know. But I do think, you know, while that may be
creepy and worrisome in the long term, you know, when we look in the future, it's also partly
disturbing that they're burning down buildings, they're destroying property. And one of the things
that's really interesting that we're seeing now are these armed groups coming out. They're standing guard in front of property. They're telling people,
look, we're not against you. We just don't want you destroying innocent people's property.
There's some really horrifying videos, but there's a lot we got to talk about because
there's one politician I saw. Well, I shouldn't call him a politician. He's probably mad at me
already. Don't do it. So there was a video I saw from somebody who's a leader talking about the problems of Antifa.
Better. Better. Better.
And, yeah, Sean Parnell is joining us.
Do you want to just introduce yourself, let people know who you are?
Yes, well, I'm Sean Parnell. I am not a politician. I like to consider myself a leader.
I led an infantry platoon at the height of the hunt for Bin Laden back in 2006.
Our mission was just to find them
we didn't i found a lot of bad guys instead my platoon took an 85 percent casualty rate some of
my men were wounded twice i was wounded myself uh and i was medically retired before my time i
intended to join the military to make a career of it going to the special forces trial for delta i
mean that was at least as a young kid that was my goal. I didn't get that opportunity. I got blown up by a rocket propelled grenade and was put out of the
military, medically retired. And 10 years ago, I left the military really broken, broken, like
didn't really know what I was going to do with my life. In fact, I came driving back from Fort Drum,
which is where I was stationed. You know where Fort Drum is? No. You said you were looking at
upstate New York. So I thought you might. so there's two seasons up there july and winter it's like up on the border with like
it's like up on the border with canada yeah and um driving driving home from there i'm like i have
no idea what i'm gonna do with my life and so uh came back to pittsburgh which is where i was born
and raised um it started i went to grad school came back with the grad school and and started
trying to tell the story of my troops.
Because by and large, most of my soldiers felt like they were completely forgotten in Afghanistan.
In fact, they'd go home when their R&R leave, their rest and relaxation leave.
And Americans would see them in their uniform, and they'd thank them for their service.
And they'd say, wow, where were you stationed?
Oh, you were in Afghanistan?
Oh, thank God.
Thank God you were in Afghanistan, because Iraq is just so dangerous you're in afghanistan because iraq is just
so dangerous and my guys would be like what the hell i just got shot in the head last week what
what so they'd come back to the battlefield to the front and talk to me and say sir they don't know
american people don't know what's going on over here and so when i was medically retired we all
sort of went our separate ways some left the army some moved to different duty assignments and i went back to grad school and i said you know i have to figure out a way
to tell their story to make sure that they had a legacy you know to make sure that their their
sacrifice was not forgotten so that they never found themselves in a situation with their kids
or their wife someday where they made it maybe they their own family didn't know what they had been through for this country and so that that you know that story uh became outlaw platoon and
outlaw platoon became a bestseller and that gave me an opportunity to give back to my country in
greater ways i've been doing charity work um you know i've got a a non-profit that i'm a small part
of that gives service dogs to vets first responders and their families yeah and so i feel like you
know you don't need a uniform rank or a title to serve your community. And so I've been doing
that for, for boy, eight years now. And then all that changed when the president came to the
district and name dropped me. So, so, so yeah, yeah. Why, why did Trump came to your district?
Why did he name drop you? Yeah. So I, I, I've never, I, at that time I had never talked to him and I still never met
the man.
Um, he came to the district, gave a big speech at the Marcella shale coalition there.
And he sort of name dropped me to, to run for Congress.
And I was like, I wasn't even there.
I was down in South Carolina at a charity event and I walk off the stage, you know,
have you ever, you're like phones just like this like yeah notifications non-stop just blowing up i'm
like what the hell is going on and i look at my mom's just like ding ding i'm like damn there
there's like a there must be a death in the family i was afraid my mom is a a very strong
italian woman and she doesn't she's there's like no drama with her
you know what i mean she can do that stuff unless something big is going on and so i i find a place
to hide and i call her after this event and they're like public events so there's like a stage
and people and there's a move that bus moment with the service dog it's real cool and um i'm like ma
what what's going on like and she goes sean i'm like oh something wrong i'm like, Ma, what's going on? And she goes, Sean. I'm like, oh, I did something wrong.
I'm like, Ma, what's wrong?
And she goes, are you running for Congress?
And I said, Ma, no, I'm not running for Congress.
And she goes, there was just silence.
And then she goes, well, the President of the United States
says you're running for Congress.
And I said, Ma, put the wine down.
It's like too early in the day for this.
And so she sends me this video.
And you can probably find the damn thing on one of these Star Trek computers that you got here.
Oh, yeah, we do.
And it's the president calling me out to run.
And so I said, okay, let's do this.
I turned my private sector
life upside down uh got in the race and declared a couple weeks later and we've been doing this
ever since and i feel like it's you know running for political office is a grind in so many ways
but really you know one of the things i'm a noob at this you know but you know politicians tend to
think elections are about them right yeah but it ain't true elections are about them, right?
Yeah.
But it ain't true.
Elections are about the people.
And so I try to keep my focus on the people, everyone, not just – I mean, I'm a Republican.
I'm a conservative.
You and I are probably very different in a lot of ways.
Yeah.
But I'm a leader.
Like, when I was in Afghanistan, I democrats and republicans in the same foxhole
black next to white rich next to poor northerners next to southerners christians next to atheists
and we were placed on some remote hilltop in afghanistan and told to figure it out and i
learned very quickly that if that if we did not learn to look past our many differences as americans
we would probably perished on some remote hilltop in Afghanistan somewhere.
And so that's sort of become the bedrock of my leadership philosophy
is trying to bring people together regardless of what they believe
or what they look like or what God they worship.
Because I know that when Americans are united,
we really can accomplish anything.
I mean, for God's sake, we went to the moon with less technology than you got in this room here.
That's actually true.
Your cell phone has got more computing power than that rocket.
Exactly.
But we figured it out, right?
Definitely.
And so united, you know, with a free exchange of ideas, you know, meeting in the middle, coming to consensus, challenging each other.
This country can do anything.
In fact, that's why this country is where we are today.
So you're running against a Democrat?
Yes.
His name's Conor Lamb.
Conor Lamb.
And you're actually in a Republican district, right?
Yes.
So four years ago, if the district had existed, it's a new district.
It was gerrymandered.
So it was, I don't know what the stats work it was like an r plus 20 district where he won his first race in a special election
it was the only game in town a couple years later it was drawn to like an r plus four
maybe an r plus three r plus four so it's it's more competitive it's a swing district in every
in every sense of the word it's really the district is the quintessential swing district
divided right down the middle um and he's you know it's a district that president trump had
it existed four years ago he would have won the district by oh boy 10 000 or so votes and senator
pat toomey who was also on the ballot that year a very very different republican from president
trump um also won the district by a larger margin. So two very different Republicans have demonstrated the ability to carry the district in the last
four years.
And there's a Democrat in there now.
Right on.
And he's on defense.
So for those that are just tuning in, it's particularly convenient that you were able
to come by for several reasons.
You just did this explosive RNC speech.
I thought it was awesome.
Oh, thanks, man.
You also, I saw the ad you did
where you talked about antifun, the violence in the far left. And I'm not seeing a lot of that.
It often feels like Republicans aren't paying attention. How long has the censorship issue
been a big issue, a big problem for a lot of people online? And we ended up only seeing a
couple of Republicans actually tackle it. Not that I think every single Republican should,
but there's a handful of people I can name.
There's Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, Matt Gaetz,
who have been focused on issues that people have been,
at least what I'm seeing.
I don't think that literally everybody sees the same problems.
Particularly online, people who are watching these videos
are seeing Antifa writers go around smashing stuff.
And it feels like, for one, the Democrats are lying about it.
They're saying it's a myth.
Nothing's going on. Peaceful protests. protests nothing but peaceful protests they're just peaceful
and so now we we so i actually uh i hit you up recently saying like yo would you would you be
down to come out come on the show and then it was several days later when you know kenosha lit up
and so now we have this this next night and the you know the lead story that we're that we're
going to start with.
These guys are showing up to protect businesses.
So we'll talk a bit about this.
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And that's the general introduction for Sean.
But let's just jump right into it.
What are your thoughts on all the riots?
You made this powerful ad you
had two really powerful ads actually yeah that one viral ad where you're walking through i guess
like a warehouse or yeah you want the full story on that do that go for it let's let's roll you
want to know how it went down well actually actually let's let's let's we'll start with
the antifa stuff just because i promised you know i'm like hey we're gonna talk about it oh we're
leading in with it yeah let's do it okay but then we'll talk about the other ad you did yeah the
second ad i did was an ad that was condemning the mob violence.
And the thesis or the point of the ad was that if you don't condemn the mob, you support it.
You know, you've got to.
We've been told silence is violence, right?
Or silence is consent.
Or silence is consent, whatever the new phrase is. But the point is, is I feel like the looting,
the rioting, the burning,
you know, we talked about this.
What happened to George Floyd was horrible.
Absolutely.
It should not happen in this country.
You know, in fact,
I came out before my Democrat opponent
and said,
we need to seek justice for this.
This isn't right.
And Democrats and Republicans were remarkably unified in that.
Every police officer that I talked to was like, whoa, this ain't right.
OK, so we had this unprecedented moment of unity that could have been seized upon to to to really to really seek justice for that family and do what was right.
Instead, the rioting and looting, what it does is, you know,
it doesn't serve George Floyd's memory well, right?
I think all of us can honestly say that these rioting and the looting is not about George Floyd anymore, right?
Absolutely not.
And so what's happening is they're burning down people's homes, their businesses.
Some of these businesses, I mean, my goodness, you started your own podcast.
How much of your blood, sweat, and tears did you put into this, man?
Starting your own business, podcast, venture in this country is not easy to do.
Any business, to be honest.
Any business. Most businesses fail. venture in this country is not easy to do any business to be honest any business most businesses
fail and so when i see innocent people whose businesses and homes and in american dreams
are being burned to the ground it upsets me it hurts my soul and you know the tragic irony of
a lot of this is is most of these riots i mean they're happening in democrat run cities
they just are and it's just a fact um and they're disproportionately affecting minority communities
absolutely and minority business owners there's a viral tweet going around right now that shows the
the increase in shooting violence in new york following defunding the police
and guess which demographic is predominantly victimized in the shootings?
It's the black community.
So in the black community, if you look at the polling, they want more police.
They want a stronger police presence.
And so all I did with the ad was just say, if you don't condemn the mob, you endorse the mob.
It was a call to action, a shot across the bow for both political parties to say, look, look, this is this is our history.
Right. And, you know, here's here's the way I explain it to people on the stump in Pittsburgh.
Right. While Democrats and Republicans on the Hill quibble about who's worse, you know, Teddy Roosevelt or Grant or Christopher Columbus or St. Michael and which statue should, you know, the Antifa, right?
And these self-proclaimed Marxists, these trained Marxists.
And this isn't just me saying this.
This is on their website.
They've said it themselves.
So if we just said in the city of Pittsburgh, all the 70s Super Bowls,
the four Super Bowls that the Steelers won, they didn't happen.
And you know what we're going to do?
We're going to take all those Super Bowl trophies out of Heinz Field.
All the players that made it into the Hall of Fame during the 70s, taking them out.
All the blood, sweat, and tears that the fans, the coaching staff, and the players invested in those Super Bowls didn't happen.
Well, everybody that grew up in the city of Pittsburgh cheering for the Steelers would still love the Steelers.
Do you want to know why?
Because it's woven into the fabric of our DNA.
We love the Steelers.
We wear our jerseys to church on Sunday, for God's sake.
So we would still love the Steelers.
But you know what?
My kids, the next generation, a little bit less.
The generation after that, probably not at all.
Oh, you know, the Washington football team.
I got some Redskins Ziploc bags.
I had to make sure I could buy something off Amazon because they were getting rid of it.
And I don't like censorship.
I don't like destruction of history.
I like preserving art.
And so I went on Amazon and I bought a box of Redskins Ziploc bags.
You can't buy them on Amazon anymore.
Are you sponsored by Ziploc?
Is that why you're doing that?
No, I just thought it was kind of funny.
Like of all the things I could get, I got Ziploc bags.
It's hilarious.
I could actually use them.
Well, so the point is that this is about making America easier
to change generations from now.
They're playing the long game and I cut that ad to help wake people up. And, you know, I had people in the media, you know, in local Pittsburgh papers saying that, you know, oh, you know, Sean, you can do better than that.
The rhetoric. I'm like, so wait a second. You're not OK with me calling out mob violence, but you're okay with the mob violence right like it's not okay for me
to condemn it but it's okay it you know it's okay to burn people's buildings down and you're going
to condemn me for calling it out but not my opponent who is posing in with defund the police
stuff did he really pose a defund the police yes wow yes that's crazy because every every he'll
tell you well of course i'm not for defunding the police it's like yeah okay okay well i mean
you're marching around with protesters posing with pictures arm and arm with defund the police signs
now imagine i did something like that would me saying well i don't really believe that would
that ever fly no they
did it with uh the dude we had on the other day billy prempeh he's a republican running in north
jersey he took a picture of a bunch of people one guy pulled out a q flag all of a sudden that's it
yeah that's exactly right supporter that's a great that's a great example that's a great you know and
i mean it wouldn't it's not it wouldn't be excusable for me. So, you know, so.
I wish it was.
I'd have no problem saying, look, the guy's probably marching around.
Some people pull out a defund the police thing.
I'm going to ask him about if he denies it.
That's okay.
Same would go for you.
But the media won't give you that courtesy.
No, they won't.
Only one side gets a courtesy.
It's beyond courtesy.
It is overt campaigning.
The mainstream media, they really are in the tank.
Look, I used to hear the president talk about fake news, and I used to laugh, right?
And I'm like, yeah, it's true, but this president being tongue-in-cheek, he's funny.
Right.
And the president, he likes to get people riled up.
You know, he just does.
He's a fighter like that.
And that's incidentally, I like that.
I like that about him.
I like that he's a fighter.
And I think that's why people elected him, because they feel like he's a fighter.
And I'll give you my logic on that if you want in a couple of minutes.
But, you know, I don't remember where the hell I was going with that.
Fake news.
Trump's a fighter.
Oh, yeah. There you oh yeah there you go there you go yeah well so and so now but now that i'm in a race i'm like oh my god fake news it's everything it's everywhere yeah and so i'm i'm i'm half joking but
i'm half not but if you look you look at some of the headlines out there today they clearly don't
want the president to be re-elected oh certainly and the new york times i think it was this morning peaceful marches give way turn violent turn no no they didn't say turn violent say give way
to burning buildings and looting or to like fires and looting it's like give way that's what is
at some serious peaceful marches yeah so i i pulled up a bunch of these stories protest protest
protest protest they all say protest they all say demonstration they all a bunch of them say peaceful. And it's like what you were saying,
you know, how they want to make it easier to change this country. I think what we're seeing
with the media is there's two things. For the most part, they're scared of the left. I think
most of these big companies that bend the knee to the woke outrage are scared of violence.
Like you got this video where, you know, I don't think I can play it,
but you've got this video where they surround this woman. She's leaning back as they're screaming in
her face, demanding she raise her fist. Yeah. This image to me is the perfect example of what's
been happening across this country for all these companies, for all these politicians for the media if if i'll put it this way if you said hey we should
fund the police and they said no way would you rally a bunch of people to go and smash windows
and start fires absolutely not exactly i mean look this this is why you there's this poll that
came out recently something like 67 and don't quote me on the numbers i'm i'm 67 percent of americans
some huge number don't feel comfortable sharing their political views yeah kato institute yeah
in fact the only people that do feel comfortable are like the far left far left and so that's why
you know when we i see it play out on the ground in in politics while we campaign like we work
really hard to go everywhere and meet people and build coalitions and be there for the people and you know we'll go to people's doors
and be like hey do you want do you want to sign because that's part of like the gig you're like
hey you want to sign and like yeah we'll take one of your signs that's great what do you want
one assigned for the president oh no we don't want our house to get burned down yeah you know
i mean but is that not a sad commentary of where we are? That was the whole.
So we talk about my speech at the convention.
That was part of it.
Like, yeah, let's like the Republican Party.
We are the big tent party.
We're the party of diversity of thought.
In our tent, you will be free.
In our tents, you will not be canceled.
In our tents, you are free.
And so I feel like we want to cultivate that in America.
But that's part of what made America such an exceptional country.
So obviously you wouldn't lead a march with torches, but obviously the left would, right?
They are.
I mean, look at this video.
Right, exactly.
This video is scary.
This video is scary.
It's horrifying.
Surrounding this woman, she's being pushed back, and they're screaming at her, raise your fist.
She's saying no.
This is not the only video. They went around to a bunch of restaurants but so think about what that means you work for you know cnn they smashed up the front of cnn building and they they tried
breaking the lobby i think they got in they got shoved out they've gone to other companies they
will threaten violence and it works it works these companies bend the knee as fast they can
and so what ends up happening going back to to the point I was making about these companies,
these news outlets that say protesters instead of rioters, one big reason is that they're
scared they'll be attacked.
They go on the ground.
They do get attacked.
We had this, Elijah Schaefer is a reporter for The Blaze.
Do you see his video that came out where the guy flipped the gun in his face?
You hear a click.
I don't know if he actually drive fired. It doesn't look like
his fingers on the trigger, but there's a click. Elijah is saying they're in the middle of a
conversation. What do you do? You know, what would you do to the cops? And the guy pulls out a gun
and points it at him and then puts it away. And it sounds like, you know, there's a click of some
sort. I don't know what it is, but they're willing to get violent and they're willing to target
journalists. So a lot of these journalists are scared and would say, hey, I would rather not challenge them.
Yeah.
You know, because I don't want to have any violence directed at me.
But I think the more nefarious thing that needs to be brought up is that these journalists, many of them write peaceful marches because they're on their side and they're covering for them on purpose.
And I know because I've worked at these companies and they straight up are like,
no, no, no, don't say it like that
because it'll make them look bad.
Oh, believe me.
I mean, you know, if, look, I mean,
you talked about, not a single,
I don't want to say not a single,
most Democrats would never win elections
if the media didn't constantly fly cover for them.
You know, most people in my district do not know about Conor Lamb's radical voting record.
OK, and look, I'm sure that he's a nice guy.
Right.
I'm campaigning on his record, on his policy votes.
He's making a personal making up lies about me and stuff like that.
But that's what they do when they're losing.
That's what the left does.
This character assassinates the politics of personal destruction that's why i didn't that's
why i was loathe about getting into politics in the first place right but if we if we allow the
left to do that then good people don't rise up and run out of fear we can't allow it to happen so
i felt that this country was important enough and the future, the next generation for my children.
We want to make sure that our kids, all of our kids inherit a country that is rich with opportunity.
And it's just as vibrant as the one that you and I, I want my kids to have the same opportunity that you did, if not more.
That's our job.
That's what my parents thought.
So my grandparents thought, and it was hard fought. And so if the media were playing fair, Democrats would likely never win because their agenda in this day and age.
And I say Democrats.
I really am drawing a distinction.
New Democrats, okay?
You know, old – the union Democrats that built this country, that really – they really did build this country from the ground up are not the same people as Alexandrialexandra ocasio-cortez you know and i'm not trying to i'm not trying to impugn her
either i'm just simply saying that my grandfather was a lifelong union democrat and he would not
recognize the democrat party today in fact most democrats that i talked to cannot believe the
democrat party platform in 2020 and and they're looking for other options
and i think as as a leader you know yeah i'm a republican and i'm a conservative and i don't
shy away from that but i i consider myself a leader and a representative of the people first
last and always and leaders we've got to step up and give those people an option you did a popular
speech at the rnc but to put it put it way. But one of the things you said was, you know, Democrats shouldn't be afraid that they should, you know, come in.
Yeah, absolutely.
100%.
Yeah, do you want to just go for it?
What was that?
What did you say?
What was it about?
Yeah, so I wrote a speech that was sort of an unconventional convention speech in that it was largely based in my platoon story in afghanistan on a fight where
we were almost overwhelmed and i talked about how diverse we were and how we needed to look past
those are many differences in order to succeed on the battlefield i said this i said this earlier
in the podcast but but what i pivot to is is is trying to give democrats who feel like their
party has left them another option.
Not saying that they've got to compromise their values.
Not saying that we have to agree on everything.
Why should we have to agree?
Things are so polarized.
Everyone expects you to be in lockstep with the Democratic Party,
and the same is true for the Republican Party.
No, that is not true.
I don't even agree with everything my own family says.
I mean, we sit around the dinner table and it's like one big argument.
That's what it means to be an American.
But the point I was trying to make is that the modern day Democratic Party is there.
The Paul somewhere along the way, there's been a paradigm shift where the Democratic Party, the new Democratic Party, is the party of hedge fund managers, Hollywood celebrities, university professors uh tech tech moguls um and they don't
represent the modern american working man or woman and i feel like i feel like those democrats i feel
like it's it's our job it is our job as as leaders in this country to give them another option and
saying look we don't have to agree on everything but you're always going to get a fair shake from me.
You're always going to know exactly where I stand and I'm going to represent you well
and show up for you and make sure that you can put food on the table for your family.
You know, not that the political hit piece, you know, writers will care, but I'm going
to back up what you just said.
We said I immediately just pulled this up.
It's from 2016.
Democrats are replacing Republicans as the preferred party of the very wealthy with a
smiling Hillary Clinton.
This is Vox.com that wrote this showing the presidential vote share among top 4% of income earners.
Democrats took over.
They became the party of the rich.
You're absolutely right.
And it's the truth.
Well, you're right.
I'm just showing you the source.
Well, yeah.
Thank you for doing that because I feel like there's somebody out there
researching this you know they're gonna repeat what i'm saying they'll pull out of the context
anyway and say oh you know oh my gosh yeah yeah but but this way the people who are watching
might are going to be like oh wow even vox vox is progressive and they straight up said the
democrats are the party of the rich and look look, here's the deal. In Pennsylvania, people remember what it's like to have the rug pulled out from under them.
You know, Barack Obama and Joe Biden cost Pennsylvania over 50 plus thousand manufacturing jobs, steel jobs, oil and gas jobs, right?
The president has brought those jobs back.
And if you talk to those companies, and these are companies that are owned by Democrats and Republicans, they'll tell you life was tough under eight years under President Barack Obama.
But what President Trump has been able to do for our company is nothing short of miraculous.
He's cut. He's rolled back your regulations.
And guess what? That allows us to take more of our own money and invest it in our company, whether it be new pieces of equipment, better benefits for their employees, hiring new people.
You know, what President Trump has done for the state of Pennsylvania has been miraculous.
And that's why I think you see this.
The Pennsylvania Democrat Party is fractured right now between hard leftist socialists,
progressives.
I call them regresses because nothing about their ideology is progressive.
Right.
And more moderate Democrats. Socialists, progressives, I call them regressives because nothing about their ideology is progressive. Right.
And more moderate Democrats.
What makes Conor Lamb now, now we talk about my opponent.
Now, everyone, the media were like, oh, he's moderate.
He's moderate.
Well, he's moderate.
You're saying that he's moderate because he says so.
Look at his voting record.
Is someone, I'll ask your audience this too is someone who votes with ilhan omar and alexandria ocasio-cortez two of the most radical members of the democratic party over 90
percent of the time is that moderate is that a moderate vote hell no it's not it's not and so
um that is you know that's not what he said he was going to do and the job is to be a representative
by and for the people if If you lie to the people,
it's disqualifying.
You know, like I said,
like I said, Tim,
we might not always agree.
In fact, guess what?
In fact, I can guarantee
we won't always agree.
But at least, you know,
probably in this show
at some point in the show.
Yeah, yeah.
Later, later on,
there was, you know,
there was a protest erupting.
A lot of these districts
that were congressional Republican,
they voted for Trump 2016 and Republicans switched to Democrat for Congress in 2018. And then with impeachment,
there was protests erupting. People were yelling, saying this is not what you said you were going
to do. You had Democrats saying we're going to bring everything back. We're going to take the
focus off of Trump and focus on kitchen table issues. And then what did they do as soon as they
got the House?
Impeach.
They were trying to impeach the president three months before he was elected.
Ever since he took his hand off the Bible, they tried to impeach that man.
And then look at what they did to Brett Kavanaugh.
It was horrifying.
They made up straight up unsubstantiated lies about the guy in front of his wife was horrifying.
His kids, his wife and his kids.
And then they trotted out this Russia hoax.
And look, I don't care.
Half of your viewers are probably liberal, but it was a hoax.
It was nothing true about it.
And then then they trot out this Ukraine nonsense.
They have tried every everything in their power to undermine this president.
So the point in my speech last night was that people asked me, well, do you agree with the president?
It's like, no, I don't agree with the president on every issue.
Why should I be expected to agree with someone on every issue?
But imagine what we can accomplish in this country.
Look at all the amazing things that this president has done already.
He unshackled our economy like no other president in our history. He made us energy
independent. I never thought I'd see that in my lifetime. Now, half of your viewers probably don't
understand, listeners, I mean, they're probably big into climate change. Well, I think Republicans
need to own the climate change issue, right? Because it's precisely the transition from coal,
you know, coal to a cleaner burning natural gas that has allowed us to decrease our carbon emissions every year for the last 20 years to a standard that is better than what's set forth in the Paris climate agreement.
Right. And there's also a moral component to this argument as well, Tim.
You know, the pursuit we should have an all of the above energy strategy where we can reuse where we can use renewables. Let's do it. But just saying we're going to go wholesale into the green new deal,
you know who is affected by energy costs that will rise by four or five times? Lower income
families. We have a moral obligation to those people to make sure that their energy costs are
cheap so they can direct those resources elsewhere in their lives and invest in their children,
in their future, in their school their school so you know this president
has done really unbelievable things for for this country in just three short years and my whole
point was like maybe we could imagine what we could do if we just actually work with the guy
so this the area we're in is like the philadelphia suburbs but we're across the river on the over on
the jersey side and there's a couple of things that i find interesting you know with what you're saying one thing is that in the past year especially
before covid i kept hearing from people around here that the 2019 was the best year they've ever
had in their lives in terms of making money their the success the expansion of their business i saw
nothing but smiles on faces when i'd go to these stores and people would tell me you know i want
to go buy furniture and they were just jumping up and down happy.
Like, it's been great.
Sales through the roof.
The economy is booming.
I talked to some landscaping guys.
They said the same thing.
Best year of their lives.
It's wonderful.
And then I was talking to this one young guy about politics
and he said that it was a great year for him.
He doesn't know much about trump
i said you know would you give him credit for the economy he's like i don't know man but i'll tell
you what i'm gonna vote for him because i'm sick and tired of the media just won't leave the guy
alone and i started laughing he's like dude it's like every time i turn the tv on it's like trump
sucks and i'm just like i don't care anymore you're touching up for the guy you're touching
on something that is really really important the. The media right now, one of their narratives is people who supported Trump in 2016 and are not supporting him now.
I'm telling you right now, I'm out there every day.
I'm sure they exist.
I haven't met one.
But you know who I have met?
A lot of Republicans who did not vote for him in 2016 for whatever reason.
They thought, oh, well, he's not sufficiently pro-life, right?
I don't know.
Now they're all on board.
Even Democrats who didn't vote for him in 2016
have said now they're all on board, all of them.
And this is the feeling that I get out there on the ground.
Now, it's not played out in the national media,
but it's a reality.
Yeah, we're seeing that as well, for sure.
I was going to try and pull up this poll but there was something interesting i saw it's a cbs poll snippet that found in this
election cycle five percent of republicans are going to be voting for joe biden but the last
time it was i think seven before that it was like seven so So there's actually less Republicans now planning to vote Democrat than we've had in the past like four presidential elections.
So, yeah, I agree.
It sounds like what you're saying is even backed up by a lot of this data.
The other thing I wanted to bring up about the Pennsylvania area, the Philadelphia area, you're talking about union Democrats who built this country and all that stuff.
Did you see the video footage from Philly when the guys came out to protect Christopher Columbus?
So you've got Antifa on the far left
going around smashing up statues, ripping them down.
So a bunch of regular guys show up,
a lot of them, I think over 100 or more,
surrounding it.
I think I did see this.
And they're like, get out.
I'm being more polite in the words I'm using,
but they were not as polite.
And the city came in the middle of the night, the statue down even though you had locals saying we want it
get out of our neighborhood philadelphia's democrat it's like it's like some ridiculous
number it's like 80 or something these guys who are showing up i can't imagine these union philly
democrat guys have decided joe biden's their man i i after seeing everything at the the city came in, when they stood to defend their statue from
a violent mob, the city came in and said, no, you don't get a say in this.
How could these people maintain that political party?
I think that the Democrat Party consistently votes against unions, hardworking, building
trades unions guys.
They vote against their interests.
I think that the union leadership is by and large supporting Joe Biden.
But their union members, their rank and file are not because they see the they see the truth.
And, you know, I'm going to do everything I can to show up for those people.
I'm going to do everything I can to to to make sure that I, as their representative leader, protects their ability to put food on the table for their family.
Because I'll tell you right now, right now, and Joe Biden and Conor Lamb and Kamala Harris, they are talking right now.
And this is an unbelievable economic crisis that we're in.
We're facing a once-in-a-hundred-year, and still dealing from the fallout from the lockdowns.
You have a presidential candidate that's talking about raising taxes by four trillion dollars when people are having trouble putting food on the table for their family.
Guess what? That ain't right.
OK, while simultaneously repealing the Trump tax cuts that helped the middle class, even the Washington Times.
The Democrats say, well, it's a tax cut for the richest.
That's not true. It's not a tax cut for the richest 1%.
That is fundamentally not true.
Look up in the Washington Times.
They talk about how the Trump tax cuts helped the middle class.
Everybody that you talk to says that the Trump tax cuts helped me, you know?
And so you have somebody that's here.
You have a presidential candidate saying, I'm going to repeal the Trump tax cuts, okay?
And now I'm going to raise your taxes okay and oh by the way we've got
aoc and bernie sanders in charge of our environmental and energy task force and we're
gonna like on fracking day one it's gone or no new fracking um and in western pennsylvania that's
117 000 jobs that are supported by the oil and gas industry people don't want that that's crazy
to me oh would you look at this title vox writer praises progressive for misleading americans on tax cuts i love it i'm pulling up
these stories you're saying and i'm like you're right yep let me pull up the source that backs up
like to prove it so yeah yeah they lied that the trump tax cuts that's what they do helped
everybody i look i have i i am going to protect people's social security and medicare
people paid into that their whole life okay i've said this a thousand times there's a fundraising
email out there that my opponent put out that said my extreme opponent is going to take your
social i was like i've i've never said this this is just a straight up like that's what they do
dirty games that's what they do look atirty games. That's what they do.
Look at it.
That's why I don't like this.
Look at this story.
So this is from last year.
Vox's Matthew Iglesias.
He's a progressive.
Praised progressives for misleading Americans on tax cuts.
I don't I don't I think he might have actually deleted the tweet.
I don't know.
Here's what he said.
Nobody likes to give themselves credit for this kind of messaging success but progressive
groups did a really good job of convincing people that trump raised their taxes when the facts say
a clear majority got a tax cut of course it's amazing isn't it it is it is man the media huh
well look that's why this this is why it's so important. This is why fundraising is so important, because not all the media, but the lion's share of the media flies cover for Democrat candidates.
And I told you this before and I'll say it again.
And I Democrats would not win if they did not have the media flying cover for them almost at every turn.
Yeah. So that's why fundraising is so important for candidates.
Not just about being a dynamic, charismatic candidate.
You've got to work your butt off fundraising.
And why?
Because that's how we run ads.
That's how we get our message out.
When you get those mailers that you probably look at and throw in the trash, maybe you
actually read them, I don't know know or you see commercials on tv that's
fundraising money the candidate raised that money to put that commercial on tv that's why
fundraising is so important and that's why censorship is so important to a lot of these
big tech companies and a lot of these leftists why they advocate for banning hate speech or
things that go against their orthodoxy so that you can't challenge them yeah i mean i think we
should let the american people decide for themselves what they think
is abhorrent speech.
Well, these big tech companies are using a loophole to get away with shutting down their
opponents through Section 230.
Are you familiar?
So look, I say we.
I mean, I was like 10 years old when this bill was passed or whatever.
But the idea was we're not going to sue you because a user posted something.
Now, we get it.
You might have to remove some stuff, but so long as it's in good faith and it's objectionable, we're okay with that.
That was the general idea.
What do they do?
They say conservative opinions.
Those are objectionable.
Banned.
So there was a big fiasco over pro-life advertisements on Facebook.
I remember, yeah.
Yeah, so I don't know where we ended up with that.
I think Facebook may have given in and said, okay, they pushed it too far.
But already, some of Trump's biggest supporters have been banned from social media, and they're never coming back.
The ability to put ads up, I mean, YouTube has a rule right now, and a lot of these rules are arbitrary.
But you can't criticize someone for being an immigrant or like immigration
status. If you are disparaging to someone or disparaging immigrants, YouTube will shut the
stream down in two seconds. They'll ban it outright. If you can't have a conversation
about these things because someone might get offended by it, then only the left will dominate
this space. They'll start gaining ground. Well, they already do. I mean, they already
dominate the space. They own it. They own it.
But this is interesting. I was talking about this earlier. I think
Donald Trump is the internet's politician.
Right? So when you
have regular people who just watch mainstream media,
they have no idea the truth.
I mean, look at what this Vox writer,
this is one of the co-founders of Vox who wrote this.
Matthew Iglesias is not some random Vox
dude. Praising progressives for
misleading Americans on the tax break.
Trump gave them Trump helped them.
And these progressive groups convinced everyone he hurt them.
That's the mainstream media.
That's big venture capital funded digital outlets funded by NBC, for instance, like Vox.
I believe Vox was and CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, etc.
But if you go online, you start digging, you'll find they're lying to you. Like,
we could pull this up. This is the Washington Free Beacon. And they even admit it. This guy
admits it on Twitter. I hear all these stories about people walking away from the Democratic
Party. They become Republicans. They vote for Trump. And there's one thing that I find is
uniting to all of them is that at some point, they didn't understand how Trump could always be bad or how Trump won in the first
place. They do. They do a Google search. What do they find? Hey, that wasn't true. And I hear a lot
of similar stories where where they say something like they claimed Trump did a thing. I watched
the video and he clearly did not do the thing. And then I thought to myself, if he didn't do that,
what else didn't he do? Like the good like the the oh they're good people on both sides that's the most recent example where biden's out
there saying that in his convention speech and it's just a straight up lie well actually joe
biden improved his technique you see at first he lied when when he was like trump said there
were very fine people on both sides cutting the context out was a lie a direct lie as if trump
was actually saying that what he did this time was clever. He said, I want you to remember what those people looked like, what they
were yelling. Now I want you to remember what Trump said. Very fine people on both sides. It's
a clever game, right? Yeah. He makes you envision that image of the people with the torches,
but Trump wasn't talking about the night with torches. Trump was talking about the next day
when the clashes ensued. Trump did not say that anything having to do with the previous night.
So he says, I want you to remember, it would be like saying, I want you to remember what it was
like when you were getting your, you know, your, your root canal, the pain, the suffering. And now
I want you to remember what Donald Trump said when he ate chocolate ice cream. This is awesome.
They have nothing to do with each other, but you're trying to make you try to apply one quote to a different circumstance. It was it was a smart way of doing it. It was it was
manipulating people. And I know I noticed this because when I said, you know, I think it was
a daily caller commented on the video saying Joe Biden lied. And then someone said the daily caller
is lying. So then I responded with the actual image. And then someone responded to me saying Joe Biden
didn't lie at all. What he said was factually true. And so I roll my eyes. That's technically
correct. What Joe Biden said was literally true. Donald Trump did say very fine people on both
sides. And there were a group of people with TViki torches context matters exactly you know that's the manipulation well maybe
yeah it's a manipulation it's it's but it still doesn't make it true i mean that the president
what his what his intent and what his intent was joe biden was saying is that donald trump said
they're very fine right right that's what he meant was. So what Biden was trying to do was avoid getting fact checked because he knows the media is going
to be like, well, literally, Trump did say these words and literally this thing did happen.
Therefore, it's true. When you know what Biden was trying to do, he was trying to connect to
unrelated things. Donald Trump said explicitly, I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis, the white
nationalists. They should be condemned totally.
That's the part he removed.
Of course.
That's what they do.
They use clever ways to manipulate.
One thing I often bring up is how they do this fact-checking game where they'll say something, and they're probably going to get you on this.
They'll say something like, there'll be a story about you running into a burning building to rescue a box of puppies.
And then everyone will be talking about it.
They'll be like, did you hear?
He risked his life.
It was like all these puppies and he saved them all.
And then he got a photo up.
And then Snopes or some fact-checking site will say, did Sean Parnell run into a burning building to save puppies, dot, dot, dot, and then stopped to tie his shoe?
False.
Then all at the bottom, it'll say, well, he did save the puppies.
He didn't tie his shoe. Well, that's I mean, I feel like I feel like there's talk about Joe Biden eulogizing Robert Byrd, who is a member of the KKK. Right.
And and literally Kamala Harris called him basically a segregationist, a borderline racist
for the last three months of the primary, which is neither here nor there. That's not what I'm
trying to say right now. What I'm trying to say is that if and you might be able to pull this up
right now, I don't know. You're pretty you're pretty good at this stuff but if you fact check was robert bird
a grand wizard of the kkk and you fact check it would be like no this is false he was not a grand
wizard of the kkk and down below it's like who's like a universal cyclops of the kkk he was a
supreme or whatever i don't know what any of these things are but that's like to your point that's
what they do my favorite was the kamala harris Harris fact check because it turns out she's got like a great grandfather or whatever who was a slave owner.
So she's a child of a Jamaican and an Indian immigrant.
And people brought up that she has an ancestor slave owner.
And so there's a fact check saying was Kamala Harris.
It was something like was Kamala Harris's ancestor a slave owner?
And was it a dark part of her past?
False.
And at the bottom it says, while it is true that she did.
Did own slaves.
It's not a dark part of her past.
Yeah.
Like, it was something like that that was just like, wait, that's an opinion.
That's nothing to do with, what they ended up, what this one website did to me was I said, I Bill Clinton, a former Clinton specifically said a former president is in flight logs.
And now a victim has IDed him as having been on that awful island, if you know what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
And I said journalism is dead.
It's just political advocacy.
They label it false by adding fake context, claiming that the flight logs I referenced were specifically to the island.
I never said that.
But this is what they do.
They will add, sprinkle in some things that have nothing to do with anything so they can
claim it's false.
Actually, I don't know if you know this one.
The best fact check ever done on Trump was when in the 2016 debates, he said Hillary
Clinton acid washed her server.
Have you heard this one?
Yes.
And then NBC ran a fact check saying false.
Hillary Clinton did not use a corrosive
chemical on her computer as if any sane american thought trump was literally imagining hillary
pouring acid out of a glass jar onto a machine he was saying she erased her hard drives but it's it's
it's they have to be doing on purpose i i hope i think they are i mean of course they are and
what i don't understand is what what
what has consistently baffled me is what's the end game it's certainly not truth it's certainly
not being a guard dog of of speaking truth to power it's certainly not being a watchdog for
the people right uh it's certainly not to defend freedom if they ever got the the authoritarian
i mean the one authoritarian state that they want.
I mean, my goodness, I can't imagine it would be.
I don't know if you mentioned this on the show
or when we were talking earlier about projecting.
I think it was before.
Yeah, the Democrats project.
They project everything that they do onto the Republicans.
It's a strategy, though.
They just accuse us, the Republicans, of everything that they do onto the Republicans and just a strategy that just accuse us. Well, so Republicans of everything that they themselves do.
Yes, there's an article in Politico that says the GOP has no goal anymore.
It's got no agenda.
They put out no party platform, but it says there's a quote from someone saying all they
want to do is, I don't know, post memes and own the libs or something like that.
They want to win and own the libs.
And I'm like, it's a projection.
I can't look at Democrats and see what they want to do. i i are they for universal health care opposed to it well it's a
mixed bag right and that's it's okay if they disagree sure but what do what does everything
they do lead to just winning that's it what is burning a building like you mentioned this earlier
we were unified rush limbaugh tucker crossson, Hannity all came out saying, like, you know, conservative guys.
What happened to George Floyd was awful.
It was not okay.
So everyone's unified.
You think that would have been a great moment for this country.
What do they do?
They go burn down buildings.
Why?
Because they're not trying to do anything other than get you.
They don't.
When they finally.
It's the Joker, right?
You've watched the movie The Dark Knight. some men just want to see the world burn even better when he says, I'm like a dog chasing a car.
I wouldn't know what to do if I ever caught one.
Yeah, and that's exactly what's happening.
So it's like, there it is.
It was I think it was Andrew Cuomo.
He was like, you did it.
You won.
What do you want?
I don't want anything.
I want to be mad.
And they want to go.
They just want to exert power over other people.
Yeah. And so this this to me is, I think, why it's so important for Republicans to take back control of the House, because, you know, President Trump in two years. I mean, it wasn't perfect. Republicans didn't get to pass all the agenda items that they wanted, but they were doing a lot of great stuff and then
2018 came along this is right around the time where the the russia hoax and the muller probe
was kicking off and um you know democrats took back control of the house and progress in this
country and i that's a loaded word and i don't mean it in the way that you know but but the work
on behalf of the people in this country ground to a halt.
And two years, it was just nothing but impeaching the president.
That was all.
It's true.
But I mean, in 2016, Republicans had everything.
I know.
And a lot of them were giving in to the Russiagate stuff.
It was disappointing.
Yeah.
It was disappointing.
It was.
It was disappointing. It was. It was disappointing to me that the Republicans seemed to, not on everything, but they seemed to squander the majority.
That's why, you know, when I talk about the establishment Republican and Democrats, I'm not fans of either.
You know, Donald Trump wanted to pull our troops out of Afghanistan, and it was eight Republicans and three Democrats who supported him in that.
And I'm not surprised that you have still unity
among both parties in opposition to things
Trump is trying to do.
But I think, unsurprisingly, it was Matt Gaetz
who joined in supporting the president
in his efforts to withdraw our forces.
But I think there's very few Republicans,
there's like a new wave, you know,
that are coming in that are different from
the way I remember Republicans, the way the Republican Party used to be. I think a lot of
this has to do with Trump and whatever it is, it's a bigger tent. Like you mentioned, it's,
it's more welcoming to traditional liberals. I mean, I'm, I am more worried, you know, people,
I talk, I'm talking to a friend of mine. She made a post saying, you know, hey, everybody, she's a good friend of mine, known for really, really, really long time.
Like one of my best friends, everybody vote, you know, everybody donate to Joe Biden.
And I commented Joe Biden was part of the Obama administration and they carried out a whole bunch of foreign policy decisions.
I do not like they there were extrajudicial assassinations.
There was indefinite detention provision. All of these things I think are horrible for this country.
The Espionage Act used against whistleblowers and journalists. I'm not going to vote for someone
from the Obama administration. And then people started making jokes about swapping out Biden
for Cuomo or whatever. And I was like, no, I'm probably going to vote for Trump. And they were
like, they gasped. No, you know, so she was asked, like, how could that possibly be? And I said, because they just voted to repeal the civil rights law in California, because they're marching around and they're they're screaming in people's faces.
Salute us or else you were you had Democrats lining up for miles, you know, three years before President Trump ran on the Republican ticket just to get into the guy's parties. Right. You had guys like Jesse, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton celebrated President
Trump and what he did for the African-American community in this country. And now all of a
sudden, President Trump is demonized. Oh, he's a racist. Of course, that's what they do. That's
what the left does. Again, we talked about this, the politics of personal destruction. They have
nothing else. But President Trump, just because he runs because he runs as a Republican, he's demonized.
He's hated.
He's the enemy.
And he's moderate.
And oh, my God.
That is the truth.
That is the truth.
And I will tell you that President Trump, he wants the best for everyone.
He does not get a fair shake in the media.
This is a guy that truly does believe
of diversity of thought in the Republican Party. He will listen to every perspective that's out
there, yet he's demonized as some sort of draconian knuckle-dragger. People talk,
well, I don't like the way that he comports himself. And I say, how many conversations
with a construction worker have you had in your life?
President Trump came up
in the New York City construction trade.
That's a tough business.
It's tough as nails.
Sometimes people in that business lack tact.
It's just how it is.
I was in the infantry.
Believe me, I know.
That's how it goes.
And so I ask people like.
Understand that, you know, when you're looking at when you're looking at how President Trump interacts with people, I mean, does he always say the perfect thing?
No, but the guy loves this country.
He loves and appreciates all of this, all of her, all of America's people.
He does.
I know it.
I've seen it and so um
i've never i've never seen somebody resist group think like president trump and i appreciate that
i think it might have something to do with ego maybe maybe a little not yeah absolutely he knows
he's always struck me as the kind of guy who's sitting there thinking like i know what needs
to be done you have no what you're talking about.
Look, you know, and that's why his name's in big gold letters on buildings around the planet, all over the world.
He's, and I can understand this.
I've been in situations where I've worked a bunch of companies.
I'll tell you what, I've worked at these media companies, and I have told them, I worked for basically just two different companies.
I worked for Vice.
I worked for Fusion, which wasc news and univision and every time there's just countless stories of the meetings
i'd have where i'd say here's what you need to do to make it work and they'd be like i don't know i
don't want to do that and so ultimately i said i'm going to do my own thing because i'm tired of
dealing with other people who don't understand what i'm trying to tell them and can't make it
work but i can't and i feel like trump probably does that and so what happens is when someone comes home says hey i got this idea he
goes no he's very very full of himself now i think he did make some mistakes early on with some of
the people he hired and that backfired on him now they're all writing books about him and things
like that well that's you know what bureaucracies do best is preserve themselves. Yeah. And so, you know, people that
have worked in President Trump's administration that that have been in Washington for a long time,
Tim, you know, they preserve their usefulness by saying, oh, you know, I didn't support President
Trump and in the hopes that maybe they'll be able to get a job down the line. I never I never I
never I never supported him in the first place.
See, here's my book.
Let me make a couple bucks until the next administration comes along,
and maybe I'll get hired again.
And this is what bureaucracies do.
Bureaucracies protect themselves first.
But, you know, it's not even bureaucracy.
Look at Scaramucci, Cohen.
These people are like, I'm going to write a book, and I'm going to sell it. Bolton, I'm going to write a book.
So it scares me that we have a political faction in this country that not not all of them i think
a lot of them maybe start paying attention but a lot of the thought leaders are trying to score a
buck quick buck what do i what do i got to say to get elected i'll say whatever i got to say just
give me the keys to the castle i mean have you realized that that's like the polar opposite of
how i am right well that's right that's why i want to talk to you because i think
that's true it's not easy running like this i mean you talk about taking things out of context i mean
you know i've gone on comedy shows in the past making tongue-in-cheek jokes with stand-up
comedians and they're being taken out of context and oh i hate women and that's not the case it's
like listen watch the whole clip decide Decide for yourself, you know?
Don't listen to what, you know,
some of the journalists,
and I certainly use that term loosely,
don't listen to what the journalists say.
Watch the clips on your own.
Well, this is the left in a nutshell.
Are you familiar with the story of Count Dankula?
No.
So he's a comedian in the UK
and they got it way worse than we do
because they don't have free speech the same way.
He made a joke video.
He was a nobody.
He was a regular dude, working class guy.
Actually, he used to be a commie.
And he made a joke video where he taught his girlfriend's pug to do the Nazi salute.
The joke was the dog was the cutest thing in the world, so he wanted to make it the most disgusting thing imaginable by teaching it to react to horrible things.
He had like eight subscribers.
He was not a personality.
He made a joke video.
They arrested him for it.
He went to jail.
He got convicted, and he had to pay a fine.
That's ultimately how it turned out.
They ended up taking the money from him.
But this is an extreme example.
We see this kind of stuff in the UK.
Over here, it's similar, but we do have free speech it's all about power stomping on people destroying them owning
them gaining power by any means necessary they will take anything you say and they will lie about
it they will manipulate it because i guess it gives them attention i honestly don't understand
but i'll tell you that's why that's that's why I was afraid to get in this. I really was. I've been in life and death situations hundreds of times
in Afghanistan, but I was afraid to get in this because I've got three small kids, and I don't
want them to have to go to school every day and deal with the BS lies that are thrown around. I
don't want them to have to deal with the politics of personal destruction. I don't want my kids to, I mean, I keep coming back to this,
but look what they did to Brett Kavanaugh.
They tried to ruin that man's life, and nothing of what they said was true.
It was all a lie.
Every bit of it was a lie.
But at the same time, this country is worth it.
The people that live in this country are worth it,
and it's worth fighting for. And if good people don't rise people that live in this country are worth it. And it's worth fighting for.
And if good people don't rise up to fight for this
country to ensure the next generation
has a country that's
rich with opportunity,
we won't survive.
So let's, you want to talk about Afghanistan?
I can talk about Afghanistan.
Donald Trump, in his second term agenda, said he
wants to put an end to these endless
wars.
And he's already tried to bring our troops back.
And for me, that's why I supported Tulsi Gabbard earlier.
Now I think the Democrats, they've got nothing to offer.
I'm not convinced Joe Biden would do anything in this capacity.
I'm curious what your thoughts on that is. Do you support the president in terms of getting our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan?
That's a complicated question.
I think right now I'm at the point where we need to bring our people home.
But allow me to answer with context. It's a complicated question. I think right now I'm at the point where we need to bring our people home. But allow me to answer with context.
It's a tough decision.
It's a conundrum for a litany of reasons.
We went over there to Afghanistan.
Our mission was to find bin Laden, close with and destroy the enemy.
But part of what we did was take care of the people. We made them a promise.
And we saw the Afghan people come out of the woodwork to fight for their freedom. I mean,
little kids, little boys come on the base, work on our base during the day with their dads,
little kids go to school, girl schools that we built, we built wells and villages and we brought
food and water and taught little girls how to read and little boys how to, we taught them trades.
I mean, a lot of what we did was humanitarian work over there. And, you know, Afghan patriots came out of the woodwork to fight for the freedom of their country.
And I realize and I know you trust me on this.
We pull out of that country in three months.
Every one of them people are hanging by hanging by a light post.
I guarantee it.
Every man, woman and child that supported Americans in that country is dead in three months.
Wow.
And that scares the crap out of me and it makes me wonder you know do we look it's
complicated right like our promise as as the americans our promise should mean something to
our allies so i recognize that okay uh so a humanitarian crisis could ensue in Afghanistan if we pull out, right?
On the other side is that as a commander in chief, we have a duty and obligation to America's sons
and daughters who suit up and go over there and go to war and risk their life for everything.
And my issue with the Afghan war right now is that if you asked, you went over there right now,
and we picked up this podcast and we just interviewed, you know, 10 different American privates from different units that
have never communicated together ever.
What's the, what's your mission right now?
You'd get a different answer from all of them.
And that's a real problem.
Wow.
Because when you don't know and understand what the mission is, you don't understand
what the mission is when you're out there beyond the wire. You're hesitant.
And those seconds hesitation can be the difference between life and death.
And so we have a duty and obligation to make sure that our people know what the mission is, know what the end state is, you know, end state operations, know what victory looks like, if it can be clearly defined.
And right now, I don't think we have that so what what
i would propose in afghanistan is you can do more in that country with far less now in 2006 we had
one brigade like roughly eight plus thousand war fighters right now supported by by more but
for all of what they call rc east in af Regional Command East. That's the entire border region.
And we took the fight to the enemy in 2006 to where in 2007,
we were getting intelligence from the front that the Pakistani Taliban were broken.
Al-Qaeda was decimated.
Hekmatyir, Haqqani network groups, terrorist Islamic factions on the border,
they were broken.
Their will to fight was done.
We were just killing too many of their sons.
They just didn't want to commit their sons to the fight.
That was it.
And look, this might sound harsh, but you kill the enemy, you secure the people.
The people of Afghanistan were starting to enjoy a level of peace and prosperity that they never thought possible in their country.
And then Presidentama was elected uh well even you know maybe even
truthfully just before that uh when president bush was still president we shifted our strategy
from counter terror which was finding the bad guys and killing them to counter insurgency which
is let's get u.s soldiers in every village to make sure that they can build a rapport with the people
and so we started building combat outposts and you see uh you know you've
seen the movie the outpost and we put them in uh we built the very first combat outpost in a place
called combat outpost marga which is right in the border in a horrible location horrible tactical
location hills surrounding all hills surrounding it and at the tail end of our deployment that base
was attacked by over 300 enemy fighters now we we knew that they were coming. We caught them and we ended up killing every single one of them. But every year after
that, every single year after that, an American combat outpost was attacked and nearly overrun.
In some cases, they were overrun. When we shifted our strategy from counter-terror
to counter-insurgency, we lost the initiative in Afghanistan because we spread what we call,
we spread our combat power out too thinly on the border so most of these combat outposts yes they were among the villagers but we didn't
have the manpower to both occupy the bases and patrol offensively so we just what does that mean
we just sat there right occupied the bases and just got attacked and because of that the enemy
was able to penetrate from Pakistan into the heart of Afghanistan. Now the enemy's all over.
And so Afghanistan's a tough situation now.
Now, where do I fall?
So what would I do?
I would shift our mission set right now from counterinsurgency,
which I think this president has already done,
to counterterror and make sure that we're going after the worst of the worst.
Let's keep them guessing.
Let's keep the enemy guessing.
Let's make them never feel comfortable.
Make them move from one cave to the next, right?
Why?
Because the whole reason we went in there was to keep that country from becoming a petri dish for terrorists,
from which they can launch attacks against the United States
or any one of our allies.
So you can do that with a couple of special forces teams,
a SEAL team, Delta.
You've got a ranger battalion or maybe a couple of infantry battalions for force protection.
What that means is like they'll discard the base or they'll do outer cordons for kinetic strikes.
And when you do that, you afford the Afghan government the ability to project strength
and, you know, safely secure and govern its people.
And so you can do that with a lot less money and the strategy would be a lot more effective
and it's kind of the middle of the road, right?
We pull all our troops out,
it'll be a humanitarian crisis.
We leave all our troops in,
the mission is muddied.
We don't really have the initiative.
It's a mess.
We keep a small group there
to target the worst of the worst.
We allow the Afghan government to extend its reach
and maybe we help the Afghan National Army a little bit while we're there to help them safely
and help them secure their people as well. In Iraq, I think we only have like, what, 500?
Yeah, we are. Our footprint in Iraq is far smaller, although I do think we've got a plus
up presence of special forces troops there. Yeah. What do you what do you think about,
you know, we've got all these military bases all over the place, particularly in Europe.
Donald Trump was threatening to pull our troops out of Germany.
You know, I just what's your general I want to hear from somebody who's actually got experience.
You know, I was in Germany. It's amazing. It's an amazing duty assignment.
And my experience with the German people, they love they love the Americans.
They like that we were there. Well, are they paying their fair share for the you know gdp for our well well yeah well i mean look i i let's let's be i mean the american bases
in germany are a tremendous economic boost for that country uh but the german people i think
also appreciate the fact that we're there for them and um you know we've had a long-standing
relationship with germany they're one of our main allies in the region.
But as our president would say, they're certainly not paying their fair share.
And so I have less of an issue with, you know, the U.S. having military bases in allied countries, particularly Germany or whatever, if they're not paying and we're providing security.
I do think it's particularly funny when it comes to a lot of these left-wing arguments about socialism. The first thing is they think
European countries are socialist when they're not. They're just welfare states with a capitalist
economy. But they also don't realize that, for instance, Sweden is, I believe, one of the largest
weapons exporters per capita. So they make a ton of money shipping out weapons. They can use that
to pay for social benefits. And then you have many of these European nations which have security provided for or at least bolstered by U.S. forces.
And they're not paying their targeted GDP into it.
So we're fronting that cost.
This is why I appreciate President Trump because he challenges the status quo.
And ultimately, he challenges us to think differently. You know, President Trump brings a different thought process to issues
to where, you know, look, both the Washington establishment,
both Republicans and Democrats over the years have become sort of set in their ways.
We elected President Trump to disrupt that.
And that's what he does.
And I think that that's why, you know, God bless a lot of these generals
and I thank them for their service.
General Mattis is somebody that I admire greatly.
But I don't understand why the life of me, why he went after President Trump the way that he did.
I don't get it.
Because, you know, just because what the president is proposing that we simply think differently.
That's all he's asking.
And look, I'm on board with let's get our men and women home from Afghanistan.
I told you that. I think that there's probably a men and women home from Afghanistan. I told you that.
I think that there's probably a safe middle ground, right?
I've articulated that.
But I'm on board with it.
Why?
Because we've done the same thing for generations,
and I'm willing to try something different.
Yeah.
I wouldn't go as hard as there's a lot of people who say,
get our troops out immediately.
It's on America's place.
We shouldn't have been in there in the first place.
It's just not the world that we live in.
You know, I mean, maybe you can make that argument
for someplace like Germany.
Right.
But not Afghanistan.
Yeah, yeah.
I think...
I mean, look, okay, so here's a good example of this, Tim.
Look what happened in Iraq
when President Obama pulled our troops out
before we were ready.
That gave rise to ISIS.
That leadership vacuum,
we pulled out of that country
before strategically we were ready, right, to leave., that leadership vacuum. We pulled out of that country before strategically we were ready to leave.
And that created ISIS.
And ISIS rampaged across the Middle East.
And look what President Obama did to the Middle East.
All they did was depose autocrats from Libya to Syria all over.
And what did that do to the Middle East?
It just sent the entire – it's a powder keg over there.
And President Trump, by and large, is dealing with that.
Now, the reason why I'm saying all this is look at how President Obama left the Middle East.
It was a mess.
Yeah, ISIS was at its height of power.
The caliphate had thousands of miles of geographic territory.
They had physical bases.
ISIS is utterly decimated.
Okay?
And there's a Middle East peace deal
that was just broken.
How often have you heard?
I mean, I never thought
that I'd see that in my life.
That's an unbelievable...
And they still came after him for it.
What is...
This could be a precursor
to peace in the Middle East
in our time.
And have you heard about it on the news?
This should be round-the-clock coverage for a month, but you don't hear it.
Now, think about it.
Think about how the Middle East was when there was a transfer of power from President Obama
to President Trump.
I mean, in three short years, this president was able to negotiate a Middle East peace
deal in which other Arab countries are now jumping on board.
Yep.
Why?
Why?
Do you want to know why?
I'll give you a guess and I'll answer it for you.
Do you know why?
Because they all opposed the Iranian nuclear deal.
Yeah.
They all opposed empowering our enemy.
You could look up op-eds.
I wrote about this before I was even running for political office.
The Iranian nuclear deal was an absolute disaster.
It empowered the number one state sponsor of terror in the world.
And every Middle Eastern country hated it.
And so President Trump, because he opposed that and sought to broker peace deals between
Israel and other Arab countries.
Look, we've got we are on we are on the precipice of an historic peace agreement in the Middle
East.
I'm telling you, I never thought I'd see it in my lifetime.
But this president was able to do it.
And so this is why I say, let's just work with the guy.
I mean, my God, we don't always have to agree, but let's just work with the guy.
Could it be that peace is the problem for them?
I don't want to expand on the question.
Money to be made in war.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, that's like a, you know, the military industrial complex,
there's that whole concept of
beware the military industrial complex.
There's probably some wisdom to that.
I think that we can, you know,
with regards to looking at the Pentagon
and figuring out ways
that we can tighten our belts there
and spend more efficiently.
There's a lot of fraud, waste, and abuse
at the Pentagon,
especially with contract procurement processes
and stuff like that.
We can do better.
If you look at the Raptor, what the F-35 project that's a trillion dollar i don't know
i mean god don't quote me on the numbers there's gonna be somebody out there fact checking me on
the numbers after this but it's it's a it's a multi-billion dollar project that could have
been a lot cheaper it could have been done a lot a lot for a lot less money in a more efficient way
i think we can look at that but i i personally personally, I am a big believer in peace through strength.
How do you feel about what happened with Libya?
No-fly zones, airstrikes?
Libya, you're talking about deposing of Gaddafi?
Oh, I thought that would happen.
We came, we saw he died.
I thought that was horrible.
And the Libyan people would tell you that as well.
I mean, Muammar Gaddafi was a terrible human being,
but he was somebody that was willing to work with the United States of America.
And sometimes, look, when you're looking at diplomacy,
when I was 24 years old leading an infantry platoon in Afghanistan,
I've got a rifle across my lap,
and I'm talking to somebody who I know is a warlord,
who I know a week from now is
going to be shooting at me in some ditch might even kill me but I'm I got to work with them
anyway because guess what that's the world that we live in I mean there's that there's that line
from the Avengers like we we don't see the world as we want it to be we see the world as it is
Nick Fury said it in a lot sexier way than I did but it's the truth right we deal with the world
as it is not as there we go we deal with the world as it is, not as... There we go. We deal with the world as it is,
not as how we'd like it to be.
You know? And...
I think... Nobody had faith
in President... This is what bothered me.
President Trump has consistently defied
the odds. He's consistently
done things... I mean, look...
This... There has not been
a president in our White House that has been
savaged as badly as president
trump except president lincoln i know he said it too well yeah you know what did he say that i don't
even know i'm not you're gonna have your people oh he's just parroting trump talking points i don't
know what i mean i'm just saying like it's but it's the it's the he's he's the most malign man
in the white house yet he consistently advances he advances the agenda of freedom. And, you know, I don't understand.
You know, I don't understand why people aren't willing to give this man a chance.
I he he's a fighter.
He cares about the people.
It could be social media induced derangement that people have formed extremist tribes.
They've polarized.
There's no middle.
And Trump must be bad.
That's that's why that's why the theme of my speech last night was trying to bring people together, trying to say it doesn't matter where you come from.
It doesn't matter who you love.
It doesn't matter what color your skin is.
It doesn't matter your gender.
Stand with us.
Fight for this country.
But they think that's racist.
They think you have to.
In fact, there's a quote from one of these authors.
These, you know, leftists.
I'm already sexist.
The next thing is going to be, is Sean's a racist.
You watch.
There's a guy who straight up says, the only cure for past discrimination is more discrimination.
They're absolutely saying they must.
And so when you consider yourself a conservative, I'd imagine.
Yeah, I'm conservative, yeah.
When I was younger, I was far left.
I was anarcho, punk, skateboarding, rock.
I listened to punk rock growing up.
But I didn't turn out a radical leftist.
Well, you became a regular guy, I suppose.
Look, you get a job, you pay taxes, you have a family, so to understand why things are the way they are.
More importantly, you know, all these things you're talking about, especially the Afghanistan stuff, because I've always been very much like, I think Trump is right to bring our troops out.
But you made a really good point I hadn't considered before, because I haven't heard it straight to my face.
I've heard Dan Crenshaw talk about some of this stuff.
And so I certainly respect, you know, the people who have actually been there to tell me,
here's what happens if we just up and leave.
So I respect you're saying there's a middle ground.
But what you've experienced is the world as it is, as you were saying, right?
Think about all of these stories.
I don't know if you've seen these stories where young people are like,
I'm going to go hiking in the hills of Morocco.
And then they end up getting kidnapped and taken hostage. Worse than that. Oh, they're going to go hiking in the hills of Morocco. And then they end up getting kidnapped and taken hostage of worse than that.
Oh, they're going to go hiking through the Iranian mountains or something.
Oh, like hostages.
It's true.
I know it's true.
Yeah.
And so so this man, I remember this one story.
People were riding their bikes through Tajikistan and a nice vehicle pulled over like yelling
ISIS stuff, I guess, and just lop their heads off right there.
I've been around there I've been around
the world not to places
as dangerous as you've been but I've been
in many places I was in Egypt when the revolution
happened and I've seen
what happens when there's no stability and it's scary
I agree I was looking down from the
balcony of the Hilton in Egypt watching
people shoot at each other and I was like
I wonder if I'm going to be able to get out of this place
because I was there as a reporter.
I'm watching the APCs roll through.
People are screaming and cheering.
The fighting broke up.
We got out immediately.
And then they shut all the bridges down.
I come back to this country.
And as somebody who grew up on the left,
who was always complaining about America
and these unjust wars and all this stuff.
And I'm like, man, America, imperialism,
I'm all young.
I got older.
And so when I was in Egypt and stuff,
I wasn't that dumb.
But when I was like 17 writing music and stuff,
when I come back from some of these countries,
I remember walking up to the immigration checkpoint.
I can't remember exactly when it was,
but I'd been to a bunch of these different countries.
And the guy looked at my passport, and he's like,
what are all these?
It was a bunch of Arabic stuff.
And I started laughing, and I'm like,
I am so happy to be back in America, dude. You have no idea. And he laughed, and he's like, all right, all right. And he's like, what are all these? He's like, a bunch of Arabic stuff. And I started laughing. And I'm like, I am so happy to be back in America, dude.
You have no idea.
And he laughed.
And he's like, all right, all right.
And he's like, what do you do?
I was like, I'm a journalist.
And he's like, I hear you.
And then I was just like, there's kids.
They grew up in this country.
They're in cities.
They go to colleges.
They're pampered.
They're protected.
They have no idea.
They have no idea that we live in this bubble.
It's like a walled city united states where it's just
we've got our crime we've got an increase in crime we've got the lockdown we've got our problems
but man i i'm sure you could you could say it better than i could well i mean that's that's
that's the that's the double-edged sword of living in the best country and the most free society on
the face of the planet where where we were if if if we live in a free society, right,
and generations of which have lived in a free society,
most of the time when you're a parent and you've got kids,
your goal once you have those kids, if you're a good mother or father,
is to say, you know what, I just want to make sure that the country that they inherit is better than the one I have.
And so every generation our country gets a little better,
a little better, a little better.
And so we've got a lot of people in this country, you know, when you've got only 0.4 percent of the people who've served, who go out and defend freedom on a day to day basis.
Everybody else just sort of enjoys the trappings and blessings of living in a free society, which can afford them views that are inherently, in some cases, the antithesis of being in a free society.
Yeah.
Right.
And, you know, it's it's a conundrum.
You know, it's funny.
I mentioned this kind of often.
I like to offer up to my progressive friends an opportunity to go anywhere in the world.
It's a dream come true.
Name one of your causes that you're so, you know, enthusiastic about.
And I will see to it.
You get there and we'll
get you a good guide and they're gone in two seconds because when they you know i was talking
to one guy who was complaining about gaza and israel and all that stuff and i was like how would
you like to go there wait what yeah i how would you like to have a flight because we can film it
we can make it a thing like your experience you're this activist you talk about all the time how
would you like to be there gone two seconds i got friends talking like wait he go they go in two seconds or they're like no no no like they're
just stop talking just and me conversations over i'm not going there are you crazy i gotta i i have
some i have this one friend who's uh i've known for a really long time preaching up a storm about
black lives matter lives in chicago i grew up in chicago they know what chicago is like and so i'm
like this dude lives in the suburbs.
I said, I'll tell you what.
I will hire you to produce a video.
I want you to go.
I want you to.
I'm not going to name the neighborhoods in Chicago.
I don't want to offend anybody, but they got some neighborhoods in Chicago, man.
Yeah, you're not going to survive.
And I'm not even kidding.
There's there's gang initiations where they literally just kill random people.
Now, if you're the wrong race walking in one in a dangerous gang territory, you could find yourself seriously hurt.
That's in America.
They call it Chiraq for a reason.
I start talking to some of my friends about all of their preaching, and I said, would you like to go and do interviews?
And they shut up immediately because what bothers me the most about a lot of these activists who preach all this stuff, the people I know in Chicago know exactly what Chicago is like.
There's rampant racism across the board between all races. There's gang violence. There's crime. It is not
some, you know,
it's not an oppressive patriarchy
or whatever. The cops aren't going around
you know, going,
trying to just randomly kill people.
All like the Penguin in Batman.
Exactly. Look,
Chicago's had its problem with corrupt government
officials and police. Sure, yeah.
But this goes for the cops everywhere in the country.
They're not going out being like, oh, I hope today I'm going to kill somebody.
That's the last thing they want to do.
It's scary.
No, it's true.
But these people like to preach all this stuff.
I see these memes they post, like a tweet from somebody saying, like, the police are a death squad that goes around hunting people down.
And I'm like, how would you like to go to a police department, sit down and talk to one of these guys gone they don't want to do it and i'm like that's
not even dangerous it's true let alone go to any of these neighborhoods yeah they don't want to do
it either like it goes without saying that 99.9 of cops are good nobody dislikes bad cops more
than good cops right and you go and talk to these people and i i love the police in my community you know
i i i support them because i know how tough the job is man i mean you're making split second life
and death decisions these people wake up every day they put a gun on their hip a badge on their
chest and they don't know if they're coming home and i'm sorry there's something noble in that
and it's an imperfect job it's really difficult um do they always make the right
decisions absolutely not but you know i i love and appreciate the police and i talk to them
when i go to their departments and i talk to them they will tell you that you know some of the some
of the worst areas of crime in their communities they like to go to the best because they want those kids to have a shot they care they and so i when i see
this this crazy defund the police stuff it just makes me hurt for the police and for the the
communities that would be affected by it it's just not right and it's all in the service of what
a political agenda being pushed by the democrats that's that that's that's not. And by the way, well, Joe Biden doesn't want to defund the police.
He just wants to redirect their funding. Again, a clever manipulation.
I'm like, like, you know, you watch the interview with Chris Wallace and President Trump and Chris Wallace is pressing President Trump as he should.
Journalists should should press political officials. Right. But biden doesn't want to defund the police
and trump's like yes he does well no he doesn't he said he just wants to redirect her funds i'm
thinking like chris if i redirected funds from your paycheck and gave it to another anchor would
you feel like you were defunded this is really funny because joe biden's running full speed as
far away from that as he can now absolutely is yes. Yes. So at the time, Brookings, the Brookings Institute specifically said, what does defund the police
mean?
It doesn't mean abolishing the police.
It just means reallocating funds to other programs.
So when Joe Biden was asked, do you support reallocating funds from police to the programs?
He goes, yes, absolutely.
I remember.
Yes.
But now he's like, so here's what's really funny.
I think the fact checkers should clarify that he he he backed off that very very quickly and now he's absolutely trying to be like i'm
gonna i'm gonna give him funding it's okay so let's just the next issue natural gas fracking
he is routine you can pull it up right here a thousand different quotes of joe biden in the
primary are you willing to sacrifice some of that blue collar growth if it means putting you know tens of thousands maybe even hundred thousands of blue collar workers
out of a job what is joe biden's the answer is yes and but but if you talk to the media well
joe biden doesn't want to ban fracking i'm like but are you are you just saying what he's saying
because he's saying it now or are you actually listening just because he's saying it now doesn't
mean that it's true look look at the things that he said in the past here's the important thing about the whole
defund the police conversation i'm looking at these stories and they're doing a fact check did
joe biden and they say well while joe biden did say he was talking about relocating funds his
larger platform i don't care about his larger platform you know why because if joe biden's
going to sit down with an activist and tell them whatever they want to hear i don't know what he's
talking about i don't know what he wants to do. When Donald Trump's like, I'm going
to build a big, beautiful wall from sea to shining sea, 30 feet concrete. And then he actually
prototyped it. I'm like, this dude's nuts. And then what happened? But this is actually really
funny. So Trump ends up settling for, you know, bollard fencing in select areas, reinforcing key
areas, and they mock him for it. And I'm like, but it was because he consulted with the actual
immigration experts who said we need to be able to see through it. And he went, oh, so we can't
do concrete. No, we need to see on the other side. Oh, OK. And what do they do? They reinforced the
key areas because of budgeting issues. They reduced a lot of the trafficking and smuggling.
He got what he wanted done. I believe Trump that he really wanted to do it. I think he really wanted
a big concrete wall. When I hear Joe Biden,
what did he say?
He's like moratorium on deportations,
decriminalized border crossings.
He's back and forth 50 million times.
Taxpayer subsidies,
health care for illegal immigrants.
And by the way,
I just want to put this to rest right now.
I want people to come to this country.
Legal immigration is great.
But what liberals do is they conflate.
They try to make Republicans as if we're anti-immigrant. they conflate they try to make republicans as if we're
anti-immigrant they conflate illegal immigration with legal immigration it's not true we want
diversity here in this country right we want unity through that diversity we just want a structure
that people can use to come here legally and safely because right now there is a tidal wave
of human suffering at the southern
border you want to send you know one of your liberal journalist friends on a trip send them
down there they won't do it well i mean you know it's it's look uh i donald trump gave a speech
years ago where he was like you see what's going on last night in sweden it's crazy blah blah and
it became this you do a pretty good trump do you do a pretty good trump you should throw yourself
into it completely i do sometimes i can i You do a pretty good Trump. You do a pretty good Trump impression. You should throw yourself into it completely.
I do sometimes.
I can do some pretty good impersonations across the board.
Across the board?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
I could do a really good Gollum from Lord of the Rings too.
Anyway, the point is, he said last night in Sweden.
This became a huge news story where they're like, you know, what happened in Sweden?
Nothing happened in Sweden.
What Trump meant was last night on Fox News, they did this documentary on Sweden. And so he's just speaking off the cuff. He's speaking
really quickly. And they take everything he says literally. So I decided I'm going to go to Sweden.
So me and a friend, my friend Emily, who is now doing a lot of the SCNR reporting from one of my
other companies, we decided let's fly to Sweden and let's go around and film and interview people
and see if it's really as bad as many of these people are saying.
We I ended up getting inundated with a bunch of leftist journalists saying, don't do it.
Don't go. We ended up raising like eight grand in a day because a bunch of conservatives were like, go do it.
We want to see a journalist actually go and cover it because I was like, I'll go. I'll totally go.
I'll cover what? Sweden. Just like this idea that there was this idea that immigration had caused rampant crime in sweden and asylum yes yeah oh
right right got it got it i understand so i was like i'll go check it out right i ended up raising
a a total like at the end of the whole trip like 20 grand or something throughout the trip people
were donating but i got all these leftist journalists dming me people i used to work
with saying don't do it don't go i had i used to work for vice, don't do it. Don't go. I had, I used to work for vice, right? Vice would go on the ground in these countries. They got vice published documentary
from ISIS territory. And I got guys from vice hitting me up saying, Tim, don't go to Sweden.
And I'm like, what do you mean? Like, this is what I literally worked with you guys. Like
two years ago, we used to do this all the time. I'm doing literally what we always do. No,
don't do it. It's a lie. These journalists not only don't want to go there,
they want to stop other people from going there.
They don't want you to go there and film the truth
and say, here's what's happening on the southern border.
They want the narrative that they can use.
I don't know why,
because I can't imagine they're gaining anything from it.
It's like a feel-good tribal thing, I guess.
Well, here's the thing.
So this is a talk to some of the union leadership.
I feel like I was the first Republican
to show up to the union AFL-CIO board, you know, got the building trades there and the government union guys and the AFL-CIO board.
And that's what I tried to explain to a lot of the building trades guys is that not only does illegal immigration undercut your wages and make it more difficult for you to find a job what the pro-act does if you look at
the pro-act which is a you hear joe biden and connor lamb talk about it all the time it's going
to be the future in a future of union membership here in this country well the pro-act affords
union protection to illegal immigrants wow so every you know the lion's share of economic
experts in this country will say that the pro- would be a wet blanket on the economy, right?
While simultaneously flooding union halls with illegal immigrants that are all of a sudden afforded legal protections.
What do you think that's going to do to your already existing members who are having trouble finding a job?
It's going to undermine their ability to make a living.
Yet Democrats push the PRO Act as if it's's pro-union it's not pro-union it actually
flies in the face of what davis bacon was created to protect and so i take this message to the rank
and file union guys that it is by and large not good for them because part of my job is to protect
their ability to earn a living and put food on the table for their family and i got criticized for it because i part
of me feels like the narrative is king right and the idea that the democrat party is the party of
unions it's i don't know that that's i mean the building trades guys it used to be did you do you
see what happened when they proposed the green new deal and the I think it was the AFL-CIO came out and threw up in their mouths when they read it.
It's going to eliminate the energy sector jobs.
I think it was the AFL-CIO.
I'm not sure.
But a bunch of these unions were like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You're straight up saying you're going to shut our jobs down.
Why would we support that?
Well, that's what when I say Pennsylvanians have short memories, this is what they see.
They don't want to lose those jobs.
The oil and natural gas industry in Pennsylvania is a centerpiece of our economy.
Did you see what Hillary Clinton said was one of her biggest regrets in the 2016 campaign?
I think it may have been her biggest regret when she said that we were going to shut down all these coal jobs.
Oh, yeah.
Well, Joe Biden essentially said the same thing.
He said, if you can go down in a mine shaft, you can learn to code.
He actually said learn to code. I'm pretty sure he said, yeah, if you can go down 3000 foot in a mine shaft, you can learn to code.
I look it up. I look it up. Yeah, there it is. There it is. Right.
Wow. OK. Sheesh. Yeah. Yeah. Tells coal miners to learn to go.
Wow. Oh, Sean. Sean's a propagandist no i'm not he
said it um and so here you know these jobs you know i come from a my grandfather who's a second
father to me for god's sake was a union a lifelong union democrat these jobs are legacy jobs to these
people their father was a coal miner their father's father was
a coal miner and all of a sudden you have a politician i mean who is supposed to be elected
by the people to protect to protect and advocate for them saying you know what yeah this legacy
you care just burn the code bro dude it's like this uh look i gotta show this video man
this video um i don't think I'm going to play it, but
this guy had his family's
business. His parents started this business. They burned it to the
ground. And these people
who are marching around destroying these things,
who get this defense from Democrats,
who pretend like it's a peaceful march and the media protects
them, don't understand. They're not just
attacking this guy. It's his legacy.
It's more than that. It's his dream
for his kids.
You know, I was looking at buildings.
I'm trying to expand the business.
You know, we've got some big plans.
We're about to do it.
It's awesome.
I'm really excited.
A million subscribers?
Yeah, I hit a million subscribers.
Sorry, poor man.
But I do have multiple channels.
So it's like, you know, it's more.
But I went to this one building and there was a guy there who was like in his 80s and he wanted to sell it.
And I asked him, I was like, you know, why do you want to want to sell it he didn't have any kids it actually made me feel really sad he built this building over decades as his building expanded like a
makeshift jigsaw puzzle just pulling on pieces and i told him i was like i want you to just record a
story and tell a story about how you built this and like what the building was how it came to be
just like give me 10 minutes he didn't want to do it i don't i don't think he has to but to me i i take value i i i really value the accomplishments of humanity
where we've come from where we're going i think about the idea that we're standing on shoulder
the shoulders of giants i say that all the time i agree completely and and i you know look i go to
new york you see all these bridges over the hudson the, you know, I think it's, no, it's
the East River, not the Hudson.
The Hudson's the tunnels.
Well, they have some bridges.
But you see all these bridges.
I have no idea how they got there.
I woke up one day and walked in and I can walk across this river, this big bridge.
People are skating out.
They have no idea the blood, sweat, and tears that went in to making sure that they would
have shade.
You know, you know the saying, you plant a tree whose shade you know you'll never sleep you know you'll never get to sit under these like
so many people millions of people just woke up one day with the brooklyn bridge they didn't have
to build it no work went into it they just one day have it and it's just their form that's that's
legacy so when you see these to go back to the coal miners to being to being told learn to code
it's like joe biden may as well have burned down their family business.
That everything that was there, I couldn't imagine.
I couldn't imagine someone, you know, here's what your family is.
Here's what your family's done.
Here's the history.
Here's what you're proud of.
Screw it.
Go be a computer programmer in New York.
That's exactly what he's saying.
That's exactly what he's saying.
You know what's really crazy about this learn to code
thing? It was a meme and it
got conservatives banned on social media. I know.
I know. I mean,
Joe Biden out there telling... Wow. I didn't even
know Joe Biden said that. I know.
But what's crazy about this is this story
is from... When is this from? The Hill?
2019. Yes, he said it on
the campaign trail. December. It's
from last December.
The learn to code thing.
I mean, we're going to phase out.
He also says we're going to phase out all fossil fuels.
You know, December 31st, 2019.
Yes.
The learn to code.
Wasn't the learn to code ban fiasco like way before that?
Yes.
It was.
Wow, dude.
Talk about nightmarishly out of touch.
That creeps me out.
I mean, you wouldn't believe the things that he says. But I mean, dude. Talk about nightmarishly out of touch. That creeps me out.
I mean, you wouldn't believe the things that he says.
But I mean, people don't believe it, you know?
Again, this is why fundraising is so important, because the media should be telling people this, but the media does not.
You would think the media in Western Pennsylvania would report on this, given that tens of thousands of people work in this industry.
They might want to know that this is these are the positions that Joe Biden espouses.
You know, the fact that AOC is now Conor Lamb's boss on this energy environmental task force is kind of relevant.
Kamala Harris, she supports the Green New Deal.
I'm pretty sure she co-wrote it. Oh I'm pretty sure. She co-wrote it.
Oh, there you go.
She co-wrote the bill.
This is, it's just, look, when AOC first got elected,
the first thing I did was I laughed.
These establishment Democrats getting comeuppance,
these young upsarts kicking them out.
I'm like, good.
They sit around, they get elected, they do nothing.
So you know what?
He didn't, you know, Joe Crowley, he took,
he was arrogant and he lost for it. So I i laughed i looked at a lot of her policy positions and i'm like that's a decent
amount i actually agree with you know prison reform and and you know some other things when
the green new deal was first being talked about it was framed in such a way that i thought was
awesome here's what they did they, would you support government investment into green technologies to
offset carbon emissions? 86% of people were like, yeah, of course. Like, look, if the government's,
you know, got money for grants and these programs, it sounds like it's a good idea.
So when the Green New Deal is first announced, it's like the idea is to repair our infrastructure
and develop new technologies and green technologies to, you know, help make our
country more energy independent and efficient. I'm like, that sounds great. And then she released it. And I was like,
what is this garbage? Money for people unwilling to work, farting cows, getting rid of planes,
no planes, no meat. But the whole second page or at least a large portion of it was talking about
racial equity payments. And I'm like, what does that have to do with developing new technology to improve the lives of Americans?
The greatest look, I mean, the Green New Deal is obviously insane.
OK, it just is as a policy proposal, as a standalone policy proposal.
It's insane. It's not reality.
Again, my my position on energy is all of the above, you know, where we can use renewables.
Let's do it. Let's invest in it. Nuclear energy. Nuclear energy is also of the above. You know, where we can use renewables, let's do it.
Let's invest in it.
Nuclear energy.
Nuclear energy is also something that we have to look at.
But you want a case study in a country migrating exclusively to renewable energy sources is Germany.
Look at what happened in Germany.
What happened?
Their energy costs skyrocketed.
It was a disaster.
Their people said no more.
And they've had to
transition from renewable energy
sources to now natural
gas. You see what happened in France?
When they said, we're going to impose a tax
on gas.
Oh, there was a borderline.
People were like, there was a borderline revolt. It was riots for
two years. There was a revolt.
That kind of
bums me out i don't like the idea that you know we we as a human civilization need to progress we
need to do better and you know we we get stuck and it's if you've ever been on a hydraulic
fracturing rig i have i see where you're going with this it is it is like this is like star trek
enterprise type stuff.
Like, when you talk about, like, getting better, you know, horizontal drilling, the way, you've got to go.
Like, come out to western Pennsylvania.
We'll go take a tour of one.
It'll blow your mind how precise they are.
Some of these companies, like Penn Energy Resources has a zero methane tolerance, right?
And methane's, oh, methane's bad.
And it is, right?
Yeah.
They're so precise. They tolerate zero methane emissions, you know? And they're so advanced. And it was precisely that
market-based innovation, right, that has allowed us to be a leader in decreasing our carbon
emissions, right? And every day, I mean, I say all this to say it's market-based innovation that will
lead the way to more cleaner and more renewable energy sources, not government monopoly.
That's what I, yeah, that was my point.
Well, I co-opted your point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, the general idea is that we, we, we develop this technology and then the government wants
to make sure that it's easier to just keep everything frozen
than it is to actually allow the market to change with new technologies and new development.
I think there's obviously extreme ends.
We can't just have, you know, archaic jobs because people are like,
the job is more important than innovation.
And we can't have learn to code.
There's got to be you know uh competitive gradual change
to develop new technologies one of the biggest challenges i see though nuclear energy seems very
promising it is one of the highest energy return on energy investments it's it's zero carbon
emission boom and the left opposes it i i think i think they oppose it just because it gets a bad
rap i mean you know you watch something so my dad works in nuclear energy he's like one of the smartest guys i've ever met he's he's amazing um but he like i like
watched chernobyl and i'm like oh man this is so great dad i love this and he was like offended
when he watched it he's like this this is not how nuclear energy works this is why this is why
nuclear energy gets a bad rap because it's sort of yeah i mean chernobyl was obviously a catastrophe
it was a disaster i mean there human there was obviously a catastrophe. It was a disaster.
I mean, there was human error.
I mean, all sorts of bad things happened.
But, you know, and I'm certainly not trying to just brush that off, right?
But the nuclear energy, our all-nuclear navy, right, that we've had in this country for a long time, there's not been one single incident not a single incident since since the inception
of our all nuclear navy because in the united states we've got a real great system of checks
and balances uh but when you talk to a lot of the the energy executives and say in western
pennsylvania that are that are in natural gas it's a simple dollars and cents issues for them
you know they say like well i just can't why build a nuclear power plant where there are so many
government regulations that you have to jump through it's a multi-billion dollar investment say like well i just can't why build a nuclear power plant where there are so many government
regulations that you have to jump through it's a multi-billion dollar investment when you can just
you know invest in natural gas it's exponentially cheaper kind of what i was trying to get at too
is the government is impeding instead of i guess appropriate refereeing you know nuclear energy is
is being demonized there a lot of democrats
progressives they say it's bad it's wrong but it would be the solution to so many of our problems
if we could just do it and that's why when i hear about fracking we see those videos where the the
fire is shooting out of the faucet and stuff i don't believe it i mean you see the michael moore
documentary that oh where he said they were all lying that That was crazy. I didn't see it, but I read about it.
He got roasted.
But yeah, yeah.
I worked for Greenpeace a decade ago, longer than a decade ago.
And I learned about their founders.
One of their founders, I think his name is Patrick Moore.
I might be getting his name wrong.
I think he follows me on Twitter now.
He left a long time ago because, and I'm probably, I don't want to get his story wrong.
One of the reasons is he supports nuclear energy.
And Greenpeace doesn't.
It makes no sense.
If you believe in protecting the environment, nuclear energy is a great way to do it.
But I guess they make money off the boogeyman, the specter of this technology because of things like Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, and Fukushima.
And Fukushima
was really bad. I mean, but that was a tsunami. So I mean, they definitely need to make sure they
have security set up to make sure that doesn't happen again. But I ended up hearing these
stories. I read about this guy, I read about nuclear energy, and how the left opposes it.
And I got really confused because it's a green energy. It's new tech. It's extremely good for
our country and the world.
But they oppose it.
Then they come to me
and they come with other stories about fracking
and all these other fossil fuel operations.
And now I just don't know what to believe
because I know the nuclear energy stuff is all exaggerated.
I mean, sure, it has its problems.
But then when they come to me
and they claim fracking is the worst thing at all to be banned,
it has to be shut down immediately overnight,
ban all fossil fuels,'m like i don't
know if i believe you man i don't know i don't know if you're being honest but i don't i don't
know what their end game is with banning fossil fuels other than climate change but if that were
the case would nuclear energy be the solution yeah well right correct i'll add one more point
the former chief of staff for aoc straight up said the green new deal is more
about changing the economy it is not yeah it's not about it's it's not about green energy it is
about control it's about changing the the structure of our country right changing the economy that's
what it's about and and you're right or chief of staff said it i'm gonna going to pull up Super Chats.
We'll get to these in a quick second.
Super Chats.
Is that all people talking?
These are all people talking.
While we're talking, they're typing in?
Yeah, and sending money.
Yeah, this is the chat.
You notice the chat going off in the background?
Sending money to you?
Yeah, to the show.
Ask questions.
I haven't sent money to my campaign.
What's your campaign website?
Seanforcongress.co.
What's your Twitter? Sean Parnell USA. Boom, there it campaign. What's your campaign website? Seanforcongress.co. What's your Twitter?
Sean Parnell USA.
Boom, there it is.
Is that like a handle?
Yeah, at Sean Parnell USA.
Anything else you want to mention?
We'll take questions.
Sure.
Yeah, just, you know, yeah.
Well, I mean, my gosh.
Money.
Campaign.
Give Sean money.
Look, people, we talked about this leading in,
but people don't, they fundamentally this leading in but people don't
they fundamentally don't understand how politics work if you want to change the scope of what this
country looks like you want to preserve the next generation for our children find great charismatic
candidates that know how to fundraise people people people ask me like even major political
pundits that work for national tv net well how much has the party given you the party doesn't give candidates money doesn't the dnc the the d triple c yeah
triple c well not no i mean theoretically no they don't cut checks to candidates like they might cut
a five thousand dollar check here or there from a pack or something like that but by and large
the way that candidates raise money is by cold calling people and asking, right?
So in the second quarter, I had a $720,000 quarter.
Like we outrate, we crushed my opponent.
But that happened by me getting a list and calling down that list,
people that I don't even know, four hours a day, three, four hours a day, every day.
And so the point is you can have the best
candidate in the world in this business you could have a candidate you believe in that you think
will just rep that will change the face of what this you know represent you well yeah but if they
can't fundraise they're not going to win you got to have both you got to have both it's marketing
man and and and and so many people get into this game I was one of them as well that just fundamentally didn't understand how fun.
That's why I made that first ad that went viral.
That's why I made it.
The warehouse one.
Well, yeah, because first of all, the max contribution that I can get from anybody is $2,800, right?
And from a married couple, it's $56, right?
$28 from the husband, $28 from the wife.
You get it.
So I just said like, well, look,
we should be giving people a way to get involved,
even if it's a buck, right?
How much is the future of this country worth to you?
Is it worth a buck?
Great.
Invest in our movement.
The Dollar Sean Club.
Yeah, the Dollar Sean Club.
And so do you want to know the story behind that, man?
So we're trying to get creative with fundraising. I thought to myself,
okay, so fundraising is a grind. It's an everyday thing, but this job, right? You need the money to
win. You know, you just have to, you have to have it, but this job is about being there among the
people. It's about advocating for good policy that supports the people. So trying to think of
creative ways to raise money,
I started to think conceptualizing,
hey, well, if we did this Dollar Sean Club,
what if we had 100,000 people give a buck?
What if we had 100,000 people give a buck every month?
All of a sudden, you've changed the game, right?
All of a sudden, you have a subscriber-based system
where they're a dollar recurring,
100,000 people, a dollar recurring.
You don't even notice it.
You're involved in a direction of the country.
You're backing a candidate that you believe in.
And that gives the candidate the flexibility to go out there and be among the people.
That's what the job is, right?
And I don't have to spend five hours a day on the phone every day you know so it's about everything that i do is about bringing people together and broadening our tent you know because i just believe that uh really this we've got to shrink
the size of government and give the power back to the people there's an interesting conundrum in in
political financing do you do we want a bunch of millionaires in congress in the senate or do we
want regular people i kind of like the idea of regular people but at the same time you could
argue that for some wealth is a sign of meritocracy.
They've been successful.
They've raised money.
But it could also be a sign of cronyism.
They get into politics.
They secure their place.
They lock it down.
And then they just use their connections to make cash.
I like what you're saying because if you didn't have to spend so much time fundraising, I think it would solve – if all politicians didn't, it would solve a lot of problems.
And we hear from a lot of the progressive left that say get money out of politics they think
politicians should be spending more time with their constituents less time focused on fundraising
and fundraising eats up a lot of the time for especially people in congress because like every
two years for uh oh every in the house you're right you've got it's raising money all the time
all the time that's what you know and at least the federal level right and all the state regulations That's what, you know, and, and at least the federal level, right.
And all the state regulations are different.
So if you're running for a state office in the state of Pennsylvania,
you can find,
you know,
some big money donors.
They write you one check and you're good.
Right.
That's,
that's also a mixed bag,
right.
Because then you've got the,
the philosophical underpinnings of like,
Oh,
this can't,
you're owned by this person.
Right.
So I feel like the rules and regulations at the federal level
are constructed in such a way to prevent that.
I think that's a good thing.
But we've got to be more creative.
As Republicans, I feel like the Democrats got it down.
They've got ActBlue.
Their digital fundraising platform is second to none.
We've got WinRed, right?
But ActBlue, it's like a data aggregating system.
So over time, it builds up the amount of donors that are in it.
And over time, the system itself gets more powerful.
The same is true of WinRed.
We're just four election cycles behind.
Although President Trump has done amazing things for WinRed, man.
But so anyway, we do this ad.
We conceptualize this ad.
And I call up my finance chair, who's just an incredible guy.
He's got manufacturing facilities all around Western Pennsylvania.
I say, can we film an ad in one of your factories and he says yeah man yeah of course and we show up like we got a a camera like a 4k camera with a camera a cameraman my
campaign manager who's sitting over there with the lights i got my girlfriend with the script
and those workers in in the ad were just working just working there i'm like hey man you want to
be in an ad?
They were like, yep.
And it took from nine to one to film, something like that, right?
Nine to one, 92.
And we put the ad out, and I was afraid to put it out because it was so different.
I thought it was awesome.
And it took off.
It got like 2 million views in a day, in one day.
And so maybe 1.5 million views in a day.
But it's just trying to get creative.
This is why I'm saying I feel like Trump is the Internet's politician.
But it's not just Trump.
It's politicians like you, Kimberly Klasick.
You saw her viral ad?
Oh, yeah.
She's amazing.
10 million, 12 million.
Yes.
Yeah, there's people who understand, who are active, and they're doing fun, authentic things.
Like when I saw that ad you did in the warehouse, it just seemed like you were a regular dude trying to have fun with it.
Dollar Sean Club, it was kind of an upbeat, fun way of going about politics.
You did make another ad that was very serious.
Yeah.
And I thought that was great too.
Well, you know, I just got to be able to communicate with people you know and i think
authenticity is the coin of the realm in politics in this day and age people people don't want
career politicians people want real if you could if you could get i mean if there was uh i mean i
like the idea of term limits but if you could i can break that down as to why i i can i i can
your four term limits no i can complicate the issue for you go. Absolutely. So I'm not going to be a career politician.
I'll tell you right here, right now, I have no desire to do it.
I love my job in the private sector, writing books for a living, doing speaking engagements.
It was great.
President Trump called me out.
I'm honored to have the opportunity to serve this country again.
So term limits.
I told you I'm not going to do it.
But also, so if I say, well, I'm only going to do two terms three terms does that not
then give the power in washington to the bureaucrat staff right who now have a permanent presence in
washington and elected representatives of the people do not right it also undermines your
seniority is it six years in washington i mean, you never be a chairman on a committee just six years.
You know, so there's that. But also, shouldn't the people determine what what terms are?
Yeah. But but at the same time, I don't like career politicians.
Right. I'm not going to be one. So I've thought about a lot of this.
And, you know, a lot of people said, what about someone like Ron Paul, who was, you know, I don't know how many he had, like 11 or some ridiculous number.
Yeah.
You know, I'll mention this, too, because you mentioned earlier on that the big tent of the Republican Party is freedom, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
I would tell people, me, politically, I'm like the political compass.
I'm left libertarian.
So I'm more about freedom.
But I'm like, easiest way to understand it is hippies living on a farm, you know, sharing their watermelon.
That's about it.
So it's more about cooperation, less about competition.
But if I had to make a choice about what kind of government I would rather have, it would be a more right libertarian in the sense that freedom, life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
The reason is there's something Ron Paul said a long time ago that I thought was – I think it was Ron Paul said this, that if you want socialism, you can go start your own commune.
Like this is America.
You can literally go get a plot of land in the middle of nowhere, start your commune and have your socialist society.
You don't need to force it on anyone else.
And I'm like, that's a really good point.
So I can do my thing and you can leave me alone.
That sounds great.
And that's just libertarian in general.
So I can have my farm with my hippie friends.
You leave me alone.
We'll protect ourselves. We'll do our work ourselves we'll do our work we'll do our thing you do yours
and that's easier to accomplish under a system that's more about you know more competitive
libertarianism so i was going to make a different point on that but anyway the general idea is that
i co-opt your point again yeah do it do it no i said did i did i just totally oh no no no no no
no i was going to make a a point when you mentioned the Republican
bigger tent. I was going to say something else.
I went off on a tangent.
Let's talk about Super Chats.
People got questions, I guess.
Super Chats. A YouTube thing where people
give money and
ask questions or make statements.
And so this guy,
Uncle Juan, 300 bucks.
So that he could say this okay he says
protesters showed up to a rural town near me in oregon called wilhelmina but the locals heard they
were coming so they blocked the entrance to the town and stood armed when they arrived and saw
what was waiting for them then turned and ran the oregonian then wrote a piece shocked wondering why
they were so mean and that's a super chat some will be questions
well is that not the point of the second amendment yeah is that not why it exists
did you hear about what happened with the seattle uh police chief that's that's a that's powerful
that's that that that's powerful and did you see i mean you know having the la riots and stuff
people on the rooftops defending their businesses with rifles and stuff when you know i'm i'm i'm part korean so someone sent me a roof korean thing
you got it man what that see that man that it so when you hear people talk about
you know dismantling the second amendment i take it personal because they're saying that you don't
i the government is saying i don't want you to
have the ability to protect yourself your family your home or your business and and what that
question just shows shows ordinary people just wanting to protect their hearth and their home
from people who don't care for it that's that's why the second amendment exists you've seen that
crazy video from colorado where the far leftists shut up some random neighborhood and the guys came out veterans
kicked them out or something yeah i saw it i was like oh geez in seattle there was uh these they
were trying to show up to the the home of the police chief and locals blocked the road with an
suv came out with guns and then these these these leftists were yelling things like we were being
peaceful and they said they were like you we were being peaceful and you pointed a gun at us.
And the lady goes, yeah, that's why you were being peaceful.
So I'm not – we've seen a lot of instances where people have come out with weapons and defending their roads or whatever.
I'm worried about it because we just had a story where some Black Lives Matter protesters, I guess, were driving through PA.
And a guy came out and fired buckshot at him.
Yeah, that ain't good.
Right.
We don't want escalation.
Yeah, I agree completely.
I was just thinking the same thing.
It's concerning, you know.
We don't want that.
Yeah.
So, but how do you know where the line is?
What I mean is we see a video clip on the Internet.
We don't know what happened.
All we know is a bunch of people around this guy's house.
Then he's coming out.
He's armed.
For all we know, a situation where they were harassing, they were threatening.
The guy got scared.
No idea.
Either way, I want to figure out how we prevent all of that.
I don't want people showing up to my house armed,
and I don't want to have to be defending my home.
I want to live in peace.
That's what the vast majority of americans
want but i don't liberal conservative or otherwise but i don't think there's an easy answer to just
be like oh this person was right this was person was wrong we all think we know the answers and
that's why well of course there's not an easy answer but the one here's a start uniting against
you know politically our leaders need to come together and say riding and looting is not
permissible you You start there.
And then you get around a table and you have a conversation.
That's what the First Amendment is all about.
Yeah.
You know?
I think it's funny.
You see that viral clip where it was Chris Cuomo.
He's on CNN.
He goes, where does it say in the Constitution that protests have to be peaceful?
The TikTok video guy who's like.
Yeah, he's like, Chris Cuomo said, where does it say that protests have to be peaceful? And the guy's eating the ramen. He like he's like yeah he's like chris cuomo said where does it say that
protests have to be peaceful and the guy's eating the ramen he goes it's uh it's in the first
amendment it's literally and it's like it's like some it's like circled he's just like a hero yeah
i think that video got like 40 million views or something it was amazing yeah you just got to look
it up mr cuomo it's literally in the first amendment but now i think this is one of the
things they're gaslighting us on. Peaceful
protests, peaceful marches over and over again.
You don't got to tell me. I know. They are gaslighting
us on that. I mean, you pull
up the article in the Post-Gazette, in the Pittsburgh
Post-Gazette, where they wrote about my editorial
board criticized that video saying,
we deserve better, Sean. You're a good young
man, but we deserve better rhetoric than this.
I said, well, no, that's a trick.
Well, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, they're good. They're good people. I just, and the editorial man but we deserve better rhetoric than this i said well no that's a trick well you know i the
pittsburgh yeah the pittsburgh post gazette they're good they're good people i just in the
editorial board they're good people it's a good paper but i think that they were wrong on that
and and and i wrote a response 750 words standard response you know what they said they didn't
publish it they wrote two pieces on me and i said hey can i please respond they said yeah
so i wrote one and said nah no you only get 200 words i'm like but you wrote 1700 yeah you know
no so it's funny how uh at the dnc they did peaceful peaceful peaceful peaceful there was
i got an email after the first night and it was from a progressive organization and all the subject
was was the word lies like 50 times and i'm like can you write me an email like that about the democratic party
because you know when when but no of course not i got an email from somebody in europe who said
that when they turn on their news all they hear about is peaceful protests and that trump is
attacking them and they go online and they see all the videos and they're sick and tired of being
lied to i got i got i got friends
and family in chicago chicago saw that mass wave of looting they pulled the bridges up downtown
to stop the looters from crossing into the downtown area these rioters and looters went
to residential neighborhoods aldermen local politicians freaked out i got family and friends
down there that all of a sudden flipped for trump overnight did you see mayor mayor lightfoot all
of a sudden the protesters are on her street
and she's got cops guarding her house.
I mean, people see this, okay?
This is going to be an issue in the 2020 election.
And people ask, first of all,
and I don't like these questions
because I don't like breaking down people into brackets.
Like, well, how are you going to get the suburban housewife?
This is how people talk in politics. I love that. I don't like breaking down people into brackets. Like, well, how are you going to get the suburban housewife? This is how people talk in politics.
I love that.
I don't like it.
I think that everybody wants freedom, economic prosperity, peace, law and order.
I mean, these are things that we all want.
Is rioting is not acceptable.
And you look in Pittsburgh alone.
There was some rioting in Pittsburgh.
It wasn't as bad as it was in Philadelphia.
But, you know, several police officers got hurt.
A cop got hit in the head with a brick, was in the hospital.
My opponents speak up for them.
Those are police that operate in and around his district.
Did he say a word about it?
No.
This is why they lose me.
This is why the Democrats lose me.
This is why they're going to lose me.
This is why.
That's why I said in my speech last night, I called to Democrats.
You're still a Democrat?
Are you still a Democrat?
I've never really been.
I'm not going to play a game.
You like your own thing?
I voted for Obama in 08.
Then in 2012, I was mad at him.
I thought that a lot of things he did not.
I mean, he did a lot of really bad things.
And then in 2016, I just laughed when Trump won.
I didn't vote for either of them.
I said, I don't want to be involved in this this i don't want to be anyone's team i don't
be any tribe and i was resistant even to say i'd vote for trump now i'm i'm saying straight up he
releases agenda i like it i think he's he's improved greatly i'm gonna vote for the guy
but it's mostly about the riots um that that was that was a that's gonna be an issue for a lot of
people it's just it's... I got family in Chicago.
Of course, yeah.
I've got friends and family.
And when they're running around the city shooting guns into the Gucci store to break the window,
guns going off, cars driving, it was insane.
It is insane.
People don't realize they lift the bridges up around the downtown area to stem the rioting.
And that's a big deal for Chicago to like cut off downtown from the front because the river goes through. So you've got to go around like one
bridge to get in. And it blocked people in. It blocked people out. I'm worried about whether
or not I've got to find a way for my family to leave the city. Many of them are in the suburbs,
but the riots went to the suburbs, too. And I feel like the Democrats are spitting in my face
when I'm like when I when I wake up and I hear, did you hear about the riots went to the suburbs too. And I feel like the Democrats are spitting in my face when I'm like, when I wake up and
I hear, did you hear about the riots last night in Chicago?
I'm like, no, no.
What happened?
I was in bed.
When those riots broke out, it happened like really late at night, early in the morning.
And I went to sleep and I wake up looking at all these videos.
And the first thing I do is I hit up my mom.
What's going on?
Is that like, you know, I know she's out in the suburbs.
Everybody okay?
Is any, that's just, that's worrying.
It's scary.
And then what do I, what do I hear from Nadler? It's a myth. It That's worrying. It's scary. Of course it is.
What do I hear from Nadler?
It's a myth.
It's a myth.
It's a myth.
It's a myth.
They're just peaceful.
Let me call my family.
Those are peaceful Molotov cocktails.
Peaceful marches gave way to fire.
No, I'm not happy about that.
And then, you know, when I ended up realizing, I said earlier this year, I'll never have
a gun in my house.
And then when I saw everything that was going down.
And you went in the opposite direction.
I went nuts.
I went nuts.
And I got a bunch of guns.
Yeah.
I was just like, that's it.
And then I was on, you know, Steven Crowder?
Yes.
He said to me, he's like, would you, he said something like, would you now accept that
any politician who's going to try and take your guns away or something about not voting
for him, supporting him?
Like, would you be, I'm like, I'm not going to support any of these laws.
No, look, I gave my faith. I had I had faith in the system for a long time.
And now I feel like we've got a big political party, the biggest political party, the Democrats.
They they they're pretending like it's not happening or outright supporting these people.
In Portland, there's a story coming out saying Ted Wheeler, the mayor, he wanted the police to stand down. I don't know if they're admitting he actually ordered them to,
but the police stood down. That's insane to me. And they don't support the police. So the police
in Seattle, the state police in Oregon, not Seattle, retreated. They called in the state
cops to deal with the riots. And then the prosecutors kept cutting all these riders
loose. So the state police were like, we're not going to do this anymore. I don't want to see anybody get hurt.
I don't want the, I don't even want the rioters to get hurt.
I'm mad at what, about what they're doing.
I think they should be, you know, arrested and they're punished for their crimes, but
I don't want them to get hurt.
I don't want innocent buildings to, you know, innocent business owners to suffer.
I don't want the cops to get hurt.
And all, all the, all that has to be done is the prosecutors do their job.
We already have laws that make it illegal to smash windows and beat people.
They're not doing it.
And that I snapped.
I went out and bought a bunch of guns and I'm like, I'm not going to vote for these
people.
I need someone who's going to do something.
Donald Trump did not send out all these cops across the country.
He sent out investigators.
They lied and claimed he was sending secret police to like march through the streets.
No, you know what?
If he did, maybe the rioting wouldn't have happened in my hometown.
Maybe the rioting wouldn't be happening in Kenosha and these other cities.
Tim, I think there are a lot of people, millions of people out there that feel just like you.
Yeah.
And I think that this is going to be, and I don't care what the media says.
This is going to be an issue for 2020 for sure.
I definitely think so.
Let's read some more questions.
Caleb Warden says, great podcast as always. 2020 for sure. I definitely think so. Let's read some more questions. Caleb,
but warden says great podcast as always question for Sean.
Do you think there should be more ex military leaders in local state seats?
FYI,
I live in green Bay and I'd say it's getting upsetting,
uh,
unsettling close in our city.
Former USMC 2011,
plenty of Patriots up here.
Trump 2020.
Yeah,
that's a great question.
I think so.
When people, when men and women raise their right hand to serve this country they go overseas they at some point
in time right whether they're a democrat or republican or independent or libertarian they
sign on the dotted line and they they say that they're going to put their country before their
own self-interests before making a buck buck, before having a family, before doing anything else that they wanted to do with their life.
I think we need more people that have served this country.
You said you travel around the world.
You know what it means to be free.
You've seen countries that aren't, right?
I think we need more people that have served in the military on both sides of the aisle at every level of government.
One of the biggest issues for me and who I want to vote for is military service.
One of the reasons why I was a big fan of Tulsi is that she's a major in the National Guard.
I mean, the commander in chief is not just the executive.
It's the commander in chief of the armed forces.
So my opinion on that is I'd much rather every politician have some kind
of service do you know what the democrats did to tulsi she's a democrat i know she's a russian
asset no of course she is oh come on i think she she abstained abstained on impeachment i'm pretty
sure right like she was one of the i don't remember but i know my opponent voted for it
that was the stupid that made me really angry i've got to pivot it back to my opponent oh for
sure tulsi's.
I don't know.
I don't know her.
She seems nice.
Jeff Andrew with most things she says, but she seems nice.
Jeff Andrew is just a couple miles from from where we're at.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He switched.
He did switch.
And he's he's his policies didn't change.
He's he was always man.
It's crazy because that guy is a Democrat.
You look.
I looked at his issues and I'm like because that guy is a democrat you you look i looked at
his issues and i'm like this guy's a democrat because the republican party is the party of
diversity of thought there are so many people people act like republicans are these draconian
knuckle draggers it is not the truth there are so many there are so many different people in
the republican party that believe so many different things suzanne collins from from
from maine she's pro she's i believe i don't want things. Suzanne Collins from Maine. She's pro. She's, I
believe, I don't want to speak for her, but I believe she's pro-choice.
I think Van Drew is pro-choice.
So there you go. But guess what?
They're in the Republican Party and they ain't shunned
or canceled. You know why? Because there's a conversation
to be had about it. There's a conversation to be had.
That is the essence
of America, is that we have
differing opinions. I know where
you stand. You know where I stand.
And we come to a consensus.
We meet in the middle and we do work on behalf of the American people.
You can't do that when one side just wants you or one side thinks you're evil or one
side wants you canceled.
You know, you can't do that.
And so we have to elect leaders that will have that conversation and will push back
against cancel
culture because it's dangerous i don't think anybody i i you know i tell people you got to
speak up because you have to when these people are marching around demanding those sit at the
table raise their fist in compliance we cannot have a society where people are all beaten into
submission you know we're the country country of live free or die.
Give me liberty or give me death.
So the people who said no, if you want to support a cause, it's America.
You can go around and march.
Do your thing.
Yeah.
You can't force other people to do it.
For sure.
For sure.
What do you call this?
Super chat.
Super chats.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Chats.
You have T-shirts that say super chats.
No, no.
It's just super chats.
I don't call it that's youtube
calls it that oh that's not like a that's not like a tim no no no no i thought that was like one of
your things no i was like okay on youtube they have a thing called super chat where you can give
money and then it makes your comment how have i not i i don't have any youtube i don't have any
followers so it wouldn't work but but still that's it interesting mr mcgraw says fellow vet yinzer pa14 here moved
here from h2o what are your thoughts on dod allowing black lives matter signs at work saying
it's not a political statement not acceptable what about wolf wanting to extend mail-in voting to
after election day split this with sean i i not acceptable look so it's not just black lives
matter it's any political statement you the military. We are not.
That's our job is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
And by the way, we take an oath when we raise our right hand to protect and defend the Constitution and people of every race, creed and religion in this country.
So it's not appropriate as a direct answer to your question.
They're trying to pretend that it's not a political statement, but it's clearly a political statement.
I mean, you go to their website,
and you read their own self-professed goals of the organization.
It's right there in black and white.
So you can read it.
Don't take my word for it.
Read their website.
What was the second part of his question?
It was a good one.
Oh, oh, Wolf's at Mail and Voting.
Okay, so this is a great question.
I spoke out about this right away.
There's a difference between early voting and absentee voting and mail-in voting.
When the president rails against mail-in voting, he's railing against sending a ballot to everybody.
When you do that, you lose chain of custody.
It can be an absolute nightmare.
What are you making? I don't want to a absolute nightmare what do you you make it
i don't want to i don't want to show the name but can you read what that says official mail-in
ballot yeah this person doesn't live here well there you go i don't know i'm supposed to do with
it is that a ballot or is that a ballot application ballot so there you go so that's that is my point
when you mail a ballot to everybody you lose lose chain of custody. Now, early voting.
Okay.
The early voting and absentee voting system that we have in the state of Pennsylvania,
there is a clear chain of custody.
You've got to go online.
You've got to apply online.
It's barcoded.
It's sent to you.
You send it back.
It's scanned into the system.
It's a pretty reliable system.
Now, what the Democrats are trying to do is conflate early voting and absentee voting
with all mail-in voting to muddy the waters.
OK, but there is a clear empirical difference between the two.
And it is dangerous when you send a ballot to everybody because you don't like you don't know.
Like you made the point better than I could.
I just that's I was so the people who watch know I often reference I got this ballot sent here.
And so I was like like just have you read it
because you don't know what that is and it just just to confirm we we've got i don't do with it
what do i do now do i go give it back to him yeah so so in the state in the state of pennsylvania
what what show show like show up and vote right because because what the democrats are trying to
do is is is make it confusing i
think the democrats know by and large that republicans don't trust mail-in voting okay
we'd like to show up in person and and this isn't a knock on democrats democrats are more trust
trusting of the mail-in vote republicans by and large i'm speaking in generality so don't you know
but republicans like to show up and we like to vote. So, you know, yes, Governor Wolf is trying to, you know, extend the mail in voting process.
He's trying to compromise the integrity of our elections.
I will tell you that we've got it.
We've got a plan in place to make sure that our elections in the general here in the state of Pennsylvania, but in western Pennsylvania as well, are safe and secure.
While allowing all of our polling precincts to remain open.
Now, in the primary, polling precincts were closed on a moment's notice.
People were getting in the mail like little postcards saying,
attention, your polling precinct has been changed.
And so Republicans and Democrats, but Republicans,
everyone would show up at their polling location.
It wouldn't be there.
And in some cases where Republicans found out where their new polling location location was they'd show up and no republican paper ballots would be
there and so i'll come back later well how many of those people actually come back later so the
point i'm trying to make is that in the primary you know i feel like they try to make it as
difficult as possible for republicans to actually show up while simultaneously sending out mail and
ballot applications to everybody we've got a better system in the general, and that's not going to happen.
Why are we doing vote-by-mail?
Because the Democrats believe it will help them win.
And that's just as simple as I can say it.
Are they giving an official reason for it, why we have to have vote-by-mail?
They're saying that because of the pandemic, we want to make sure that people can vote.
They want to have access to voting, and we want to make sure that they can do it safely without putting their health at risk.
Oh, wow.
This is great because Dr. Birx and Fauci both said we can safely vote by mail.
A problem solved.
Vote in person.
Yeah.
Safely vote in person.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Vote in person.
Oh, my gosh.
Don't say that.
Everybody.
Oh, my God.
No, Fauci said that if we can go to grocery stores, we can go in person. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Vote in person. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Don't say that. Everybody. Oh, my God. No.
Fauci said that if we can go to grocery stores, we can go in person and safely.
Dr. Burke said it should be no different from going to Starbucks.
Of course.
If that's the case, argument's done, right?
The reason why this vote by mail is being pushed is because Democrats believe it will
help them.
Yeah.
That's it.
The predictions from both sides are that Trump's going to win on election night, but they're not going to call it because they're going to wait for mail-in ballots which
will trickle in and will be found which will give biden the the numbers he needs of course that's
what they look i mean this is let me ask you a question that's what they did in california
let me ask you a question look republican look it up republican house candidates won in california
a couple of them won in 2018 yeah 10 days later
they lost oh look at all these ballots we found oh looks like the democrats won it's it's a let
me ask you a question if if uh if i publicly announced you know i'm voting for trump which i
did and then i show up to your house one day and uh actually we'll put it a better way if a group
of people announced that they were going to all be supporting Joe Biden and they show up to your house and say, why don't you give us your vote, Sean?
Give us your give us your ballot. We'll take care of it for you.
We'll make sure it goes to the right place.
No ring a Biden hat. Would you would you give him your ballot?
No. The Postal Union endorsed Biden.
I know. I mean, I don't know.
Let's not pretend.
No, I'm not even even gonna get into it no the democrats i'm in washington again i want to be clear i'm not talking about traditional
traditional democrats i do like to draw the distinction right because their party in
washington does not represent them okay yeah um but. But I'll say I'm just going to keep saying this over and over again.
The Democrats want all mail in voting because they believe it will help them win.
That's why. True. That's it. Yeah.
So we got another question here. David Meyerson says, how would we as former military get into politics?
Oh, boy. Yeah, that's it. That's a great question.
Well, so it depends on what level of politics you want to get into politics? Oh boy. Yeah, that's a great question. Well, so it depends on
what level of politics you want to get into. I would recommend running for a local office first,
maybe a state office first. I jumped into Congress because the president called me out
to sort of do it. But you don't need a uniform. You don't need a rank. You don't need the title
of congressman to get involved in your community. You don't need a rank. You don't need the title of congressman
to get involved in your community.
Run for your local school board.
One of the things that I think
that Republicans are learning, right?
I mean, people think,
ah, it's just a school board election.
Well, do you think it might matter now
where you look at what's happening in this pandemic
and the greatest public policy debate?
I think one of the greatest public policy debates
of our time is whether or not our children should go back to school.
School boards make that decision.
School board elections matter.
Get involved in your local community at a level that you think is appropriate for you and make your voice heard.
Like you said, Tim, make your voice heard and just get involved.
And when you do, don't be afraid to fundraise.
I'm telling you, cold calling is not easy.
It's challenging.
It's scary.
It's nerve-wracking.
You get hung up on.
You get a lot of no's.
But your goal every day should be to get 30 no's.
And if you're going to get into politics, don't just do it because, oh, you want to have soapbox platform to to talk about what your your belief system is that's only part of it you've got to be
a rock and roll fundraiser you've got to be able to do it so if you get into politics regardless
of the level local state federal go into it with a commitment to fund and that's what the party says
just raise money raise money but there's a way to do it go into it with a plan be creative and innovative and win right on
we got one from mitch he says sean tim lydia i was a democratic voter until i started working
in law enforcement and the military and started doing research americans live in a safety bubble
paid for with the blood of patriots like sean never stop fighting for our country and the truth
amen wow that's really nice thank you ma'am i appreciate that there are a lot of really really
nice comments.
I'm not going to be able to read all of them, but I'll read a couple more because we have gone over.
Palmer Eldridge says, I think the Republican Party's tent is getting too big.
The elitist Communist Party of America needs to go away and have new Libertarian Party take its place.
Well, yeah, of course, we don't want people that want to destroy America in our tent.
And I mean, look, what I said last night in my speech, if you love America, if you believe our nation is exceptional. And by the way, the belief that America is exceptional, it also means that you believe that America is not perfect.
Because what makes America exceptional is that our country always seeks to right the ship. Of course, we is not perfect because what makes america exceptional is that our country
always seeks to right the ship of course we're not perfect show me a country that is but we we
always we we recognize our wrongs and we right the ship that's what makes us exceptional that's
in in burning down cities is retrogressive it's not progressive it's the opposite of progress
it's the opposite of classical liberalism i've been i've been to a lot of countries i've been to uh some of these i've
been to a bunch of i think i've been i've been to uh almost all the scandinavian countries i think
america is the best country on the planet so do i i think i think we got a lot of problems i think
we made a lot of mistakes but i look i look at you know what my family fought for what they achieved what they
did for me and then i got to go explore the world and then come back and be like wow did they do a
great job over the past you know a couple hundred years and improving things you know just for
everybody we've continually made sure to expand civil rights people don't people don't understand
that you know even a hundred years ago with Constitution, we didn't have the same free speech we have today.
We fought.
We fought for it.
Yeah.
And we improved so much that it's only since 1967 that you can have interracial couples.
Since 1964, we have civil rights in this country.
It's not that long ago.
And we fought.
My family fought for this.
Americans fought for this.
And the good guys won.
And, I mean, we're the country that beat the Nazis, man.
Absolutely.
The twin evils of fascism and communism, Americans of all political affiliations and walks of life, stared down those twin evils, and we won.
Correct.
Let's see.
Dave Meyerson says, I can can do that my American bloodline traces back
to mid 1700s New York every generation
of my family has fought for American freedom
and everything you're talking about has been argued
about before we fought for it several
times but the Confederates who that
who then turned Democrats have always built
armies to combat it Semper Fi
gosh geez you got some
you got some really
engaged and smart viewers, listeners.
Well, these are the ones.
That was a big super chat.
These are people who are watching.
I'm like watching these comments come through.
They're coming through in real time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right now.
They're just, yeah.
So here's one for me.
Hey, Sean, from your district, it's from Joe.
Hopefully you get out lamb.
What's your opinion on Section 230 reform oh man well uh that's that's a really complicated question but here's what i
think i'm trying to put it as simple terms as possible if these social if these tech companies
are censoring conservatives and not liberals and allowing liberals to promote their political
videos right or even post them while simultaneously not allowing
conservatives to do it i mean it's just it just ain't right i think they're violating their section
230 protection when they do that right are they yeah so i think they've already been in violation
of it i'm wondering why lawsuits haven't already happened my my here i'll tell you exactly what my
position is on it and uh there there are a lot of people who've said horrible horrible things there are a lot of people there's very few people i actually hate
you know because i try to be just pragmatic calm and recognize some people are going to be awful
people right but there are people who say some things some things that make me really mad but
if they're americans i think they should be a lot of these platforms because what i don't like
twitter is accessible by people in every country on the planet.
Yes. So right now,
on websites like Reddit, that have this protection
that will ban a conservative,
they'll ban a conservative for jokingly saying
learn to code, making fun of... But the Ayatollah
Khamenei is talking about wiping Israel off
the face of the planet. Exactly. And that's totally cool.
I know, it's wrong. But more than
this, a guy in Australia
can make a post on Twitter saying orange man bad.
And then some random people in the US will see that and go, wow, they think the orange man is bad.
But Twitter has banned the conservatives.
So why is it OK that we have foreign citizens access to this platform that will influence our election?
I saw you make that point the other day on Twitter, and I thought it was a really good one.
I'm not saying that, you know, foreign individuals should be able to use the platforms.
They should.
But I think Americans need to be on this platform where we're having these conversations.
So that their voice can be heard, too.
Otherwise, the only voices you hear are people who don't have our best interests at heart.
Look, I think Australia is great, but I don't think people in Australia know our politics.
I don't think they know what we are fighting for.
I think some of them may have visited here, but I don't know their politics. I don't think they know what we are fighting for. I think some of them may
have visited here, but I don't know their history. I wouldn't begin to start arguing about who they
should vote for. But you are very likely going to see, you know, left-wing Europeans and even
people in certain Asian countries in Australia and New Zealand influencing our politics because
they have unrestricted access based on their political ideology.
But you can get a regular, you can get a guy, he's 34 and he works at a refinery or something
or some manufacturing job.
He's on Twitter horsing around.
He sees Trump and then he tweets at a journalist, learned to code, banned.
Regular guy.
I know.
It's just unbelievable.
It's right.
So I'm with you.
I agree with you completely.
Yeah, I think one of the issues I'll say is I've had a lot of time to think about Section 230 reform, but I can imagine for you it's much more difficult to just be able to just –
I mean, I get confused when I can't upload a video on Twitter.
You've got like 8,000 screens and stuff.
The camera's everywhere.
I think it's just an issue of fairness.
I think the open and the free exchange of ideas is something that makes us better. And then look,
I mean, part of the reason you've got these kids rampaging all across this country and tearing down
our statues is because it's somewhere along the way they were taught to dislike this country.
They were they were only taught the negative aspects of our history.
And when there's not an opposing view,
when there's not someone there that's saying,
hey, wait a second, look, America has our flaws,
but we're a fundamentally good country,
and here's why.
You don't challenge anybody to grow.
And when you do that on social media,
when you censor only one side on social media,
kind of the same thing happens.
And that's why I think people say that you know twitter can be a dumpster fire precisely because they're censoring people and look it doesn't work it doesn't work like it
doesn't i mean laura loomer is a perfect example of that she's the example it doesn't work so i
don't know primary she's got 630 000 followers on parlor she found a new platform you know what the only thing they
did was when they banned her was they made sure they didn't know what she was working on
it's it's oh yeah right like so sure yeah so what you're saying is is that it allows people to fly
under the radar yeah not not that she was happy about it but isn't that one of the biggest
intelligence blunders of any organization?
If you're – isn't this funny?
I always tell these activists this.
They think the police are jamming their phones.
And I'm like, they don't want to jam your phone.
They want to follow you on Twitter so they know what you're doing.
I know.
They want you to talk.
Yeah, so censorship doesn't work, and I also think it just – it's not good for our country.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right on, man.
Well, look, so we have gone over so i think
we're gonna we'll wrap it up we went 22 minutes over it happens we had a good conversation but
yeah do you want to do you want to shout out anything else before we before we start to wrap
up well geez man i mean you're yeah well please listen like go to sean for congress.co if you're
if you're if you if you want true representation of the people uh here in western pennsylvania or
across the state of pennsylvania you want a warrior for our state and invest in the movement.
It's not about investing in me.
Invest in the movement and the movement of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for everybody.
You know, I will always safeguard that, whether you're a Republican, Democrat or otherwise, maybe not communists.
But everybody else I will safeguard.
You know, you want to be a commie
in america that's fine that's cool just don't don't try to tear it on our system don't know
that's i i got i gotta say i met i met a commie he was wearing a sickle and hammer i talked to
him and i said how do you feel about antifa and he goes like those guys that are like smashing
stuff like that's awful dude and i was like really i was like but you're you're a communist of course
of course i'm just joking don't weaponize this against me i know people are gonna i know they're
gonna chop it up and take it out of context.
He hates communists.
He says communists are fine in America.
I know.
Let's get – whatever.
But I'm just saying contribute to the campaign.
I'd love to have you be a small part of our movement.
If we have the resources to get the message out, we'll be able to give this district back to the people, and that's my entire mission.
Let's give the power back to the people in the district and represent them well rad what's your what's your twitter or any other social oh
yeah so i'm on instagram at official sean parnell i'm new there uh i'm on twitter at sean parnell
usa and i'm on facebook i think at official sean parnell too i think i got an official pay they
got a little blue check marks next to them i think that means something nice means you're famous i
don't know confirmed about that you. I don't know about that.
You run for office.
All of a sudden, you get the blue checkmark.
But hey, man, thanks for coming on.
Thank you for having me, man.
So for everybody else, make sure to tune in.
We're live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. We'll be back.
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We'll be back tomorrow.
Tomorrow we have Ryan Long, right?
We do.
Ryan Long. Do you know who Ryan Long is?
No.
He's a comedian. He's making these really, really funny videos.
And he hasn't been canceled yet?
Not yet.
I think he might. He made made this you know the brink he did he did the one where it was the woke and
the racist guy and oh my gosh that is one of the funniest videos ever you're having him on tomorrow
that's cool oh my god that video is brilliant did you see the one he did recently with the left and
the right guy no the left-wing guy's yelling like taking pictures trying to get it was it was they're
picking basketball teams and the left-wing guy is like taking pictures trying to get it was it was they're picking basketball teams and the left-wing guys like taking pictures getting the guy getting them fired and the right-wing guy
he's like just come over here and play with me and the guy walks over and he goes you see that
trump video is pretty reasonable right and the guy was like whatever but it was like the perfect
example of how the right is kind of just like chill yeah like you know i put in that video
that viral video i put a a Bernie Sanders in there.
It was it was it was it was I got mad at you.
Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
I put the guy.
What the hell is the guy named Larry David from Curb Your Enthusiasm as Bernie.
And they're like, this is a representative for Congress.
You can't run for Congress if you don't even know who Bernie.
I'm like, you know, man, I'm really i'm really excited for what's going to happen in maybe
like four more years because i think the big problem we have is the the old elitist kind of
like political faction like the washington beltway crony elitists who have this like rigid way of
doing things but your ads were fun well i mean one of your ads one was very serious and i think
it was important but you had this really fun ad
and we're seeing, you know,
people trying to be more personable,
more authentic
and I think it's great.
I can only be me.
Right on, man.
All right, we're going to wrap it up.
We'll see you all tomorrow at 8 p.m. live.
Thanks for hanging out
and we'll see you then.
Bye, guys.