Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #124 - Trump DEFENDS The Kenosha Kid, Press Lies And Feigns Outrage, Trump Liked MY Tweet

Episode Date: September 1, 2020

Tim and Lydia discuss Kenosha, Biden, the joint terror crackdown plans, Tim's Tweet being liked singularly by the president, the media, journalism, and the press, and whether race relations got better... or worse under Obama.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Right now, if you go to Donald Trump's Twitter account and you look at his liked tweets, I think I actually have it pulled up right here. Yeah, there's one and it's mine. And it's a thread I wrote about why I wanted one of the reasons, one of the big reasons that I was that I'm going to be voting for Trump. And it has to do with Kyle Rittenhouse. Earlier today, just a few hours ago, Donald Trump gave a press conference where he talked about Kyle Rittenhouse and he was asked about it. He said, you know, we all saw the same videos. It looked like he was being attacked. And Trump said that the kid may have been killed if he didn't defend himself. And yes, that's even the New York Times. Well, the New York Times didn't
Starting point is 00:00:39 come out and say that much. They didn't say that much, but they did say he was attacked first and someone else fired a gun first. So yes, he was being chased. And of course, the media is feigning outrage. No matter what Trump says or does, he's wrong. The funny thing is he posted this thread and all of these outlets that are highlighting it won't actually talk about what I said. I find that really fascinating. So I know many of you are really excited. We're going to have Kimberly Klesik on today, but she unfortunately had to cancel, so I wish her the best. She's killing it out there. She had that amazing viral ad, and I'm
Starting point is 00:01:10 sure, for obvious reasons, she's very, very busy. And she spoke at the RNC, right? Yeah, she did. Oh, yeah. So you know, these things happen, and you know, maybe we'll figure something out and have her on at a future date, but I'm sure she's doing something rad nonetheless. So we're just going to talk about what's going on with this press conference, and you know, Donald Trump liking my tweet and it being the only liked tweet on his page
Starting point is 00:01:30 is funny because all of a sudden I'm not I'm getting I'm getting hit up by like random people I've known from a long time. They're like, yo, yo, hey, what's up? I have your phone number. And I'm just like, you know, the craziest thing about this is it's not just this tweet from Trump. It's just in the past week or so, a bunch of people that I thought were like progressive anti-Trump Democrat are like whispering, we love your show, man.
Starting point is 00:01:52 You're awesome. Keep doing it. And I'm like, that's really weird because you post like weird SJW stuff and you're telling me like what I do. You're getting to them. Or these people really are just like secret Trump secret trump voters like man that's crazy like what if you know all the polls in 2016 i know i know we say this all the time but i wonder if when we talk about secret trump voters they keep saying it's non-college educated whites what if it's not what
Starting point is 00:02:17 if it's just like a little bit of everybody i think it is just a little bit of everybody people who pay attention yeah some of the messages i've gotten as of recent, I'm like, this person likes Trump? Like, what? That's funny. Because you work for a progressive company. But hey, man, there it is. So anyway, we got a bunch to talk about. We've got this, and we've got some new details
Starting point is 00:02:34 on what happened in Portland and some other stories that are, we got some satire to throw in the mix from the Babylon Bee, which is really, really good. Of course, always good. We're just going to hang out and talk about all that stuff. So make sure as you're tuning in, you smash the like Bee, which is really, really good. Of course. Always good. We're just going to hang out and talk about all that stuff. So make sure as you're tuning in, you smash the like button
Starting point is 00:02:47 because it really does help. And subscribe. Hit the like button. Hit the notification bell. YouTube makes it a chore to make sure you get all this content. And today it's just me hanging out with Lydia. Yep. That's me. I'm here. I'm here. I'm sorry. I'm not Kimberly Klasick. I'm sorry to disappoint everyone. I wish she could have been here.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Next time, hopefully we catch her. Everybody's mad. I know. Everyone's mad at me. I wish she could have been here next time. Hopefully we catch her. Everybody's mad. I know everyone's mad at me. So right now, let's just let's let's jump in. I want to show you this first story from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. And it's a really, really amazing piece of disinformation. And I also want to go through a bunch of these like fake news journalists smearing Kyle Rittenhouse. It's it, man. So earlier today, as I mentioned, Donald Trump gave a press conference where he said, you know, this kid looked like he was being attacked and he may have been killed if he didn't do something. This is what the story says from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. They say Trump mischaracterizes Kenosha protest shooting,
Starting point is 00:03:39 defends Rittenhouse evening before his visit to the city roiled by unrest and violence. They say the president also mischaracterized the incident in which Kyle Rittenhouse was accused of using an assault style rifle. Quote, that was an interesting situation. You saw the same tape that I saw, Trump said Monday during a White House news conference. He was trying to get away from them, I guess. Looks like, and he fell and they were very and they very violently attacked him. And it was something we're looking at right now. And it's under investigation. I guess he was in very big trouble. He probably would have been killed. Trump added. They go on to say at the point of the evening, the president describes the teen
Starting point is 00:04:19 had already shot and killed one protester, according to the charging documents and video footage. Trump's latest comments at the stage for what could be a highly charged visit from the most powerful man in the world at a time when the community is still recovering from a week of shootings and unrest that left a black man paralyzed, two white protesters dead, and businesses looted and burned. So here's the first question I have. I think I'm just so tired of saying it. They don't have Google, do they? I guess not. They don't. They don't. Listen, all too often, you've got three journalists on this.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Let me tell you a story. I went to a thing called News Exchange once. They flew me out to Morocco and they had me up on a stage in front of like a thousand journalists watching. And I looked around and I was asked about like the state of journalism. This is back in 2012. And I said, every single journalist should be fired. Every single one of them. Because they have no idea what they're doing tech wise. They have no idea what they're doing security wise. And there needs to be like a purge and a start over. And that was in 2012. Wow. Have things improved, Tim? It's gotten way worse. And they got, you know, they were mad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:22 You know, someone from CNN tried offering me a job and I was like. Are you joking? Get out of here. And it's funny because it was like 2012. So I was like kind of broke and just they invited me there because I was doing this coverage. But anyway, I bring this up because this story from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has three reporters.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Count them, yeah. Three reporters on this and not a single person could have done a Google search over this. Quantity. Come on, man. Look, the people, all of you listening probably did a Google search and found more information than they did. So is it intentional that they're lying? Specifically, when they say that Trump mischaracterized the incident and and they're the mischaracterization,
Starting point is 00:06:01 there's the mischaracterization is they're saying at that point he actually had killed somebody. You see, they're omitting context to what Trump is saying. The New York Times has the story. I'm not sure if, where did I put? There we go. Check this out. First shooting. While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Though it is unclear why. The weapon's muzzle flash appears in the footage from the scene. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Rittenhouse then fires four times and appears to shoot the man in the head. You want to know what's crazy about this? What's that? Four times, they say.
Starting point is 00:06:39 The medical examiner said he was hit five times. So actually, fact check me on that. Can you pull that up? I believe that's true. I'll look it up. Yeah. And one of the shots was hit five times. So actually, fact check me on that. Can you pull that up? I believe that's true. I'll look it up. Yeah. And one of the shots was in the back. And so, yeah, I remember you telling me.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I tweeted about this. I think the medical examiner said he was hit five times. Make sure you can fact check me on that one because this is where it gets crazy. The New York Times says he fires four times. OK, maybe he only did. I asked this question on Twitter when I took a screenshot from the medical examiner's report and it said he was hit, you know, once in the back. And so I was like, how did Kyle Rittenhouse turn towards him as he was lunging at him and hit him in the back? Well, they said they saw
Starting point is 00:07:16 another muzzle flash. So I'm assuming that somebody else was shooting as well. Well, what the New York Times is saying is the muzzle flash was fired into the air. Could they be wrong about that? I mean, it's far away. Yeah, it's grainy. That'd be an amazing, if that person's firing a pistol from that range, like they're- They hit him, that's amazing. Yeah, they're good. They're good.
Starting point is 00:07:32 They're not a fire. It's possible. I mean, I'm not a gun expert or anything. But my question was, how did he get hit in the back? And some people said, if he was lunging and got hit and spun, it would have easily hit him in the back. But if they're saying, did you find it? No, I'm still looking.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I think I have it on my Twitter. If you like, go through my Twitter. I tweeted. I asked the question. I think I linked to it. I could find it. Yeah, five, five, five balls. You look that up and we'll keep talking about it.
Starting point is 00:07:55 So anyway, the point is Trump didn't mischaracterize it. The dude was being chased. The New York, I'm on the New York Times. Is the New York Times not credible enough? And what's which reporting should I trust? The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that says Trump is lying, that omits most of the details of the incident, or the New York Times that does a detailed breakdown going through video after video? I got to admit, the New York Times, I think, did a really good job on this one. So he turns toward the guy and the guy lunges at him first. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:30 What do you think everybody else said? All these woke journalists. Oh man, I've lined up a bunch of tweets and I have too many. Here's a guy. Daniel Dale says, asked about Kyle Rittenhouse, supporter accused of murder. Trump says he's looking into it, but adds that was an interesting situation. He was trying to get away from them, looks like, and then they very violently attacked him. He probably would have been killed. I've actually seen a lot of people very critical of this tweet, but I honestly don't see anything wrong with it. It's true. Rittenhouse is accused of murder. I mean, I would say that it looks like self-defense, but he was quite literally charged with it. So this to me is kind of just neutral. But a lot of people took issue because they want him to bring up the greater context,
Starting point is 00:09:05 which I believe would be prudent to do. He didn't do it, but I'm not going to rag on him for just giving us like a kind of a bland quote from Trump. However, the recount. Trump not only refuses to condemn Kyle Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old who killed two protesters, he defends him. They violently attacked him. Yeah, yeah, we get it.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I want, you get it. I want you know what? I want to say something because I was reading this account. Did you find the thing yet? No, it's on my Twitter. Just scroll through it. I was reading this account from a medic who was talking about the skateboard guy who got shot by the Kenosha kid and how she ran to him trying to render aid and that his girlfriend was screaming. And I'm like, yeah, dude, this is like this is horrifying. I'm sad for the dude. I don't want anybody to get hurt. The dude with the skateboard should not have gotten shot.
Starting point is 00:09:52 But, bro, you don't run at a dude with an AR laying on the ground and grab the barrel of the gun and try and pull on that suicidal. It's sure the left is trying to claim this guy was a hero or whatever, but he hit him over the head with a skateboard. To what degree? Because I'll tell you this. I watched the video and it doesn't it doesn't look like he did a full swing bash. But at some point, the skateboard comes in contact with the kid's head. Then he tries grabbing the barrel of an AR. I mean, dude, at a certain point, like you got to back away. This kid's being chased. This is the big problem with mob violence is that I've mentioned this seeing it like
Starting point is 00:10:31 at the G20. I think it was a G20 where where Luke Rutkowski got attacked. Oh, yeah. Someone just pointed at him and screamed Nazi and then random people started beating him and he wasn't. And so what happens if you're minding your own business and someone screams, that's the guy and they start attacking you? Then yeah, sure. When they frame it like the skateboard dude was a hero, I guess in the context where he had no idea what was going on and tried attacking a dude
Starting point is 00:10:54 with a gun, sure, you could argue that. But when you look in the bigger picture of things where Kyle was being attacked and chased by a violent mob that was out destroying property, and that dude did not live in Kenosha either. I'm sorry, man. It's not heroic to run up to a random guy. You have no idea what's going on and try grabbing the barrel of a gun. Well, USA Today was saying that the victim in Kenosha might have been trying to save someone.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And honestly, I don't think it matters what he was trying to do if he was part of the mob that was chasing him. Which guy? Rosenbaum? Yeah. That was the first guy who got hit. Yeah. Another important thing, too, is the medical examiner report said he got a graze to the head not a not a not a
Starting point is 00:11:28 bullet through the head and i've seen a lot of people claiming that rittenhouse shot a guy in the head and that was the initial tweet that went out right people thought it was a whole and i even said the same thing yeah it looked like medical examiner said it was a graze it was a graze oh wow yeah interesting and that he actually died because i think it hit his his internal organs right yeah wow i didn't know that yep yep so a lot of these people have no idea what's going on and and to be fair look i've got videos that i did at the time which are inaccurate at this point like more information has come out and i think that's why you know it's important to track have you you haven't been able to find it no i'm still on my twitter thread just scroll down i did
Starting point is 00:12:00 yeah keep going it's there somewhere all right here we go ryan savedra quote tweeted this dude brian lur what is it law brian i don't know cohen whatever oh brian tyler cohen that's his name yeah he said the adl looked into rittenhouse and found no indication from rittenhouse's social media footprint that he is connected to any extremist movements okay the criminal complaint filed by authority said that Rittenhouse was attacked while running away. In which case, oh, I actually have the article from the ADL. This will be interesting. They say, okay, no, this is just a CBS. I'm not going to read through the CBS article because I think we've gone through the gist of it, but you get the idea. The ADL, the Anti-Defamation League, which tracks extremist activity, told CBS News,
Starting point is 00:12:41 there were militia members at the Kenosha protest, but found no indication from Rittenhouse's social media footprint that he is connected to any extremist movements. His posts indicate he's an extremely pro-police, that he is extremely pro-police, and appears to have been a former police explorer, a career-oriented program for youth considering a career in law enforcement. Many of his social media posts use the phrase Blue Lives Matter. Oh my. According to the ADL, I'm assuming that the ADL thinks that's some kind of hate organization if the adl has gone that far as to say like we didn't find anything there you go that's thorough yeah that is thorough that's pretty good the anti-defamation league has like a really broad view of what right-wing extremism is like anti-government anarchists are considered right-. That's amazing to me. Yeah. So I guess I they call black supremacy left wing.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Oh, you know, you want to know what they what else they do when you go to their page and you're looking at everything they list is like hate speech or hate organization like dog whistles or something. They have an entire list of numbers and numbers in different sequences that they consider forms of hate speech. I found it, by the way. Oh, you did find it? Yeah, I did find it.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Oh, okay. You have the article. It says, serious question. How do you shoot someone in the front and the back at the same time? But the story is there, right? You have a screenshot. There's no link? No, just a screenshot.
Starting point is 00:13:56 What? I forgot to link it? What kind of journalist? Can you quote some of the text and then Google search it to find the article? Yeah, sure. I'll do that now. Because I'm pretty sure the dude got hit five times. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I could be wrong about that. So see what you can find. Yeah, yeah, let me see. Here we got a... This is where it gets fun. We're just basically going through tweets from people who are lying about what happened. It's great.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Lily Adams says, White House has been given two chances to disavow murder committed Rittenhouse, the first press secretary, now Trump, and has taken a pass both times. So this is actually really funny. I mentioned that Trump liked my Twitter thread, and I've gone through it a couple times, but I'll give you the gist of it, because I think it's probably important for me to explain
Starting point is 00:14:31 like the point of what I was saying. But Kayleigh McEnany was asked about it, and she said that Trump's intent was to highlight information that many people probably didn't know. And yes, and then Trump was directly asked about it, and he said basically the same thing. But the gist of my thread, okay, it's because I think it's like what 11 tweets is that it ends my by with me calling Trump an a-hole, right? But I'd rather vote for an a-hole than a coward. And I think it's fascinating that Trump liked the thread. I'm like, hey, I think Trump would find it funny back. All right, I'll take it. I think he said something like that once, didn't he? I think he did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:05 He was like, I'm a mean guy, but I work for you. Exactly. So he probably laughed when he saw it. But the general idea is, I wrote, Kyle Rittenhouse is a good example of why I decided to vote for Trump. Violent extremists were destroying people's lives for months. 30 people were killed. Democrats rejected federal assistance every time Trump offered it.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Media lied about Trump deploying secret police. OK, so this is a like a very broad brush. I posted here. I didn't say anywhere in the tweet I supported Kyle Rittenhouse. Of course, that's an opinion. And they'll probably argue that because I'm just reporting what The New York Times said that is support for or defense of what I should have said is that the Kyle Rittenhouse situation is a good reason. Right. That you've got violent extremists. Look, I said, you know, violent extremists are destroying people's lives. Democrats won't accept Trump's help. What I was trying to say is none of this should have happened. The kids shouldn't have had to have been there.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Exactly. He shouldn't have needed to be there. Right. And the police should have been out there. They shouldn't have been trying to defund the police. If the governor just accepted first, I think the locals, the city council, whatever, asked for way more National Guard. They did. Yes, I recall. And the governor said no. And Trump's repeatedly offered federal assistance. And they've all said no. It shouldn't have happened. Kyle should not have had to have been called by anybody to go out there. I think it was foolish that he went out there because look, man, you like i've been on the ground with these violent riots i've seen what these people do and you need to that kid probably didn't understand the likelihood that he was going
Starting point is 00:16:33 to pull the trigger was like 99.9 yeah well he's a 17 year old kid he's just kind of going out there to have fun nothing's ever going to happen to a teen nothing's ever going to happen nothing's ever going to go wrong so he so well he's in he had he had good intentions right but the path the path to hell is paved with good intentions exactly the problem is how do you where where's the there's there's no way to call this one right do you just let violent extremists destroy your town these people weren't from there by the way the kenosha issued a statement saying out of 100 i think think it was 175 arrests, 102 were from outside the city. Right. And so was he. But he worked in Kenosha. I'm sure some of them all were from
Starting point is 00:17:11 outside the city, but had some reason to be familiar with the place. But it's, you know, do you do nothing? Do you just sit back and say, well, I guess I lose my business in my life? Or do you say, I need help? The police aren't helping me. And then to what degree do we blame Kyle for being a 17-year-old kid who was asked by locals, can you help protect businesses? And this kid loves cops. And he was probably like, dude, this is awesome. Yeah. This is a chance. Yeah. And he was rendering aid to the rioters even. Right. Well, he started the day by scrubbing off graffiti and cleaning the mess up in Kenosha. And I don't know. The only thing that I can come up with to say is that even if you do decide that you need to step in and do something about it, you sure as heck don't send a
Starting point is 00:17:48 17 year old kid. Try to make sure that people who are responsible and mature and have a firm grasp of the situation and aren't running around in cowboy boots, which are really, is that what he was doing? Yeah. I think he had cowboy boots. I think that's why he fell down. Yeah. Yeah. Poor guy. No way. No way. I don't don't believe that is that is that for sure i'll look it up but hold on let me let me let me throw a little uh a little um uh counterpoint your way in that regard we send 18 year olds overseas to to to kill people that's fair and this kid he worked in this in the town is a 17 year old not allowed to defend his own community i i think he is but i have a counterpoint
Starting point is 00:18:25 to your counterpoint because the 18 year olds that we send to fight wars are led by people who have experience that's a good point sure and there was as far as i could tell there's not really anybody like that there and they go through they go through extensive training right i mean the written house looks like he had good he had yeah he appeared to be trained good trigger discipline yeah yeah yeah i actually was talking to a friend of mine who said that she felt what proves intent to kill was trigger discipline you can't yeah yeah because because he knows how to handle the weapon and his finger clearly wasn't on the trigger most of the time that means he made the decision to move his finger to firing position to shoot those people and i was like yeah yeah to defend himself yeah they're coming at you they
Starting point is 00:19:05 have weapons in their hands not just a skateboard man this is this is crazy but anyway it turns out this work it's funny so so that dude brian tyler or whatever yeah mike cernovich quote tweets him saying nick sandman's lawyers represent kyle rittenhouse enjoy those retweets because you're literally going to be paying money for them and then then the tweet got deleted. And I guess he reposted it with a cleaner statement. He fixed it, huh? Yeah. So you can't really sue someone for defamation if it's an opinion. So the tweet went away.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And I guess it's not the only one. A bunch of other people did too. Yeah, there's a screenshot. Here's the screenshot. We're going to get demonetized because we got some swears in here. It says, holy S, Trump is defending Kyle Rittenhouse. He's defending a white supremacist who murdered two people in cold blood. He defended him from the lectern at the White House.
Starting point is 00:19:51 You know, man, I don't know how we're supposed to have a functioning society if people just make stuff up and just, you know, you know what the craziest thing is? Ultimately, I want to get to here is the gaslighting with Joe Biden, how he's basically Joe Biden came out and says he's condemned violence on both sides and is challenging Trump to do the same. And it's like when Trump the last time he said there were bad people on both sides and some fine people on both sides, they turned it into a smear. They've used nonstop. Joe Biden did. It's so ironic that Joe Biden is bringing this up because he kicked off his campaign talking about the very fine people hoax. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:20:30 President Trump, you know, he really likes him, some white nationalists or whatever. And he's never let go of it. And now he's bringing it up again now. Well, now what Biden's doing is a clever, you know, linguistic manipulation. Yeah. So instead of saying Trump called white nationalists this, he says, remember what they looked like and remember what he said. Then he says the quote. So he can't be sued for lying. Pretty clever. It is because it'd be funny if Trump sued Biden for defamation in the political race. It's a very amazing. I know it's like the judge would laugh and be like, welcome to politics. Grow up. You're 74. Like you're beyond an adult. Wait wait so can you you can sue for
Starting point is 00:21:05 defamation if you're a famous person though right yeah it's harder though okay so um i mean will chamberlain who i've actually got one of his tweets is a better uh a better person to talk to but he'll be on the show i think when is he coming on the ninth i want to say oh yeah i've had will on my show so many times oh yeah but uh my my understanding basically having talked to will several times who was a lawyer, is you have to prove if you're a public figure and someone defames you, you have to prove they knew what they were saying was false. It's extremely difficult.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah, how do you prove someone's intent? Messages, emails, but even then, you know, I think for a lot of this stuff, these people are just, you know, kind of really dumb. Yes. And there's not going to be internal communications for a guy who just tweets something out. Right. So proving actual mass. Now, I guess the big issue is what's becoming really challenging with these defamation suits
Starting point is 00:21:56 is that everyone is a public figure now. Yeah. So when it came to Nick Sandman, so for those that aren't familiar, he's the Covington kid who was standing on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. The Native American guy walked up to him, started banging the drum in his face, and then the media smeared him. He's won a bunch of settlements, by the way. But the trouble with him was they tried arguing he was an involuntary public figure, and they were writing about him because it was the news and he was a public figure. And I guess his legal team argued against that, saying he didn't do anything to be a public figure.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Involuntary, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's a thing. It is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they argued the kid didn't do anything to be a public figure. Involuntary. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's the thing. It is. Yeah. Yeah. So they argued the kid didn't say anything. You can't set that standard. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:22:30 But that's where it's getting dangerous. Is Kyle Rittenhouse now a public figure because he's all over the press and social media? I think it's ridiculous to try and argue he is. He's because he didn't say anything to anybody. You know, well, no. Yeah. is he's because he didn't say anything anybody you know well no yeah i would say i'm really really happy that um rittenhouse is being defended by um nick salmon's lawyer that gives me a great deal of confidence in what's going to happen and the sheer amount of video around this incident
Starting point is 00:22:56 yeah there's no i don't there are there are two new videos that have surfaced which make the circumstance really interesting the first is that apparently after the shooting, one of the guys who was with Kyle Rittenhouse says the police told us they were going to block it off and then send everyone our way because we could deal with it. So I tweeted about that. And I'm like, dude, that Kodosha P. Needs the answer for this, because that sounds like they set him up. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:23:22 And I don't mean set him up like a bunch of cops were like, I got a plan to frame a kid. What I'm saying is it's an extreme interpretation of what I'm trying to say. What I'm trying to say is the cops knew there were kids down there armed and were like, send the riders that way. And I'm not saying they had a grand scheme or grand intent. It was literally just like they knew the kids were there and they thought, yeah, send the riders that way. Not not not negligence. Yeah. See, those are the adults that I would have expected to have taken up, like, the mantle of being responsible for these kids. And they didn't. It looks like they really failed them. I think the point you made is, you know, earlier is exactly it.
Starting point is 00:23:57 While we do have young people who go overseas to fight wars, they have commanders. They have the chain of command. Right. They have training and guidance and this kid probably did have a lot of training but no one on the ground was seemingly in control of the situation i'd imagine if they actually had someone older and more experienced he could have called them told them like here's what we do here's how we do it here's when we move and if they were together he wouldn't have been chased yeah so you had a handful of kids and they weren't experienced enough so when when Rittenhouse got attacked and chased, the other guys should have been there to help
Starting point is 00:24:27 him out. But there's so there's another video. So there's that one. But there's another one where after the first guy gets shot, Kyle is running and someone said, what happened? What's going on? And Kyle says, I'm running to get the police. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Yeah. And then people start yelling, get him, get him, stop him. And then they start attacking him. The kid was running for the police and they attacked him. So, you know, it really is an interesting conundrum. First and foremost, none of them should have been out past curfew. Yep.
Starting point is 00:24:54 But, yes, yes, none of them should have been out past curfew. I give a little bit more leeway to the kids because they were there in a defensive, you know, right? Protect the businesses, render aid aid it was going to happen the rioters shouldn't have been out there rioting so i think the fact that they were out there burning down buildings not this group specifically but just in general negates this idea that the skateboard guy was a hero yeah so so if if we can if we take into account that the kid who is 17 shouldn't have been out there
Starting point is 00:25:24 with his gun then the protesters should surely should not have been out there either. We have to apply the same standard. So the issue right now that I'm seeing, like the way CNN is framing it and the friends of like and these leftists is that the skateboard guy by himself sees a dude running down the street with an ar and they're screaming he just killed somebody and so in his mind he was like oh man i gotta stop this guy before he hurts someone else you see what i'm saying yeah the problem is that guy wasn't out there with good intentions right so i'm you know if you go out with the intent to riot see someone running on the street and then you attack them i'm sorry dude that's not heroic you don't know what happened you don't know who you're attacking and that's actually it's interesting to me that i've talked to a lot of people about the good guy with the gun scenario you have a lot of conservatives say
Starting point is 00:26:12 how do you stop a bad guy with a gun a good guy with a gun and many of them said the reason it's a bad idea is that if everyone starts attacking each other the cops have no idea who's the good guy or the bad guy right well it's like so i think sometimes you talk about when somebody steals a purse or if somebody has a purse and all you have to do is say that person stole my purse and then you cause all sorts of problems for them so what is this story that you tell where you're like if you have a purse all you have to do is yell at somebody and you get people to attack them yeah i mean but you could theoretically this is the craziest anything anything at any time anywhere as long as there's a mob. Like if I was walking down, I'd be willing... Actually, you know what?
Starting point is 00:26:47 I'll put it this way. If I was in New York and I saw you and you were like walking and I yelled, stop her, she stole my purse. I don't think anybody would do anything.
Starting point is 00:26:56 If a guy had the purse though, because like as much as people might not want to accept it, there's still sexist stereotypes. Right, there are stereotypes. Guys don't really care. If a guy was carrying a purse, a woman could yell,
Starting point is 00:27:04 he grabbed my purse. Most people would do nothing. stereotypes. Right, there are stereotypes. Guys don't really care. If a guy was carrying a purse, a woman could yell, he grabbed my purse. Most people would do nothing. Yeah. Oh, for sure, yeah. But eventually you'd find one dude who would walk up and grab you and be like, yo, give the purse.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And then the guy would be like, it's my purse. And then, you know, whatever, I don't know. Right. You could theoretically do it with a backpack, though. That makes more sense.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah. But I'd be willing to bet in a crowded New York City, very few people would actually intervene in any way. But create a mob violence situation and they will do anything. It's creepy. There's a video, I think it's, it was Wisconsin, I'm not sure, where a guy, a regular guy, is standing in front of a store with
Starting point is 00:27:36 his arms up and they're all screaming at him, get out of the way. And then one random Antifa just goes, he's a Nazi. And then people start screaming and hollering because that Antifa guy knows. You say that and then other people will just start physically attacking the individual. And then the person ends up running off. Probably just a bunch of lemmings, that's for sure. Yeah, the interesting thing about all of this stuff we see with the far left is that it is what I would call like in terms of a weapon. If you were like Crinan Allergy, it's a blunt object. Yeah. Whereas
Starting point is 00:28:05 the extremist stuff we normally see with mass shooters is like a knife. What I mean by that is you take someone with a knife, you're going to end them really quickly, and it's like a high... It's intense. Yeah, right. And a blunt object is slow, and if you hit
Starting point is 00:28:22 someone with a bat once, they might just run away. So you can theoretically hit a thousand people with a baseball bat over the course of a month, and it won't make the news. Nobody cares. You run up to somebody and stab them, it's going to be front page on the local news. You do it to several people, it'll be major news. And so what ends up happening is you have these terror attacks where the mainstream media sees it, and rightly so, goes like, whoa, this dude ran into a room with a gun and shot all these people. And then everyone talks about how right wing violence is the most extreme. And it's like, it's certainly a problem. Absolutely. We got to have the Fed stopping all this stuff. But with the low tier stuff on the
Starting point is 00:28:58 left, they do it 100 times more often, but it never makes the news. So it keeps happening. Right. Now, Donald Trump's announced something earlier along in this, along with the press conference where he talked about he says this is from Felicia Sonmez. Felicia is Washington Post national political reporter. DHS and DOJ are announcing a joint operations center to investigate violent, violent left wing civil unrest. Trump says. Good. says good awesome yep so it strikes me that it would be much simpler to just say all extremists left and right are bad why can't we just do that well apparently now that's what joe biden's trying to do oh boy wait let me see if i can find a here we go this is great tyler uh and then i'm gonna go back to that tweet because there's another funny
Starting point is 00:29:42 thing there tyler pager says says Biden on Trump's presser. I urge the president to join me in saying that while peaceful protest is a right, a necessity, violence is wrong, period. If Donald Trump can't say that, then he is unfit to be president. And his preference for more violence, not less, is clear. Yeah. Why doesn't he say that, Tim? Take a look at this tweet below.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Someone commented, we've reached levels of gaslighting never before thought possible. I couldn't believe this. So I actually pulled it up. And yep, look at this. Biden, I condemn violence in Portland, challenged Donald Trump to do the same. Biden condemns violence in Portland and calls on Trump to do the same. Biden condemns Portland violence, says Trump recklessly encouraging it. Wow. Trump is recklessly encouraging it. That's crazy. You know what? You know, it was really crazy to me when I saw this. I think this proves that Joe Biden and and like Kamala and the Democrats no longer care for politically active people. Like they're straight up saying, if you follow the news and you listen to commentary, we don't
Starting point is 00:30:44 want your vote. You know why? Why? Because we've all been listening to Trump scream his head off about ending the violence and having law and order. And they keep blaming him for it, even though it's like, we just had Ted Wheeler of Portland write a letter and say, I do not want your help ending the violence. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:31:03 And then what did he do the next day? What? He did a press conference where he blamed Donald Trump for not intervening. And if you don't want to help us get out of our way and support us or get the hell out of the way. What do you think he tried to do? Now, look at this. Look at these stories, man.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Here's my favorite one is the Reuters one where it says Biden condemns violence, says Trump recklessly encouraging it. How dare Trump? You know, how dare Trump staff donate to the. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, wait. This is Biden's staff. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:31:31 From Reuters. Biden's staff donate to group that pays bail in riot torn Minneapolis. I remember this. Oh, that was Biden's staff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was in May. Well, OK.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Well, anyway, it's not like his vice presidential candidate was actively encouraging people to donate to the rioters. That'd be silly, Tim. Oh, here's a tweet from Kamala Harris. If you're able to chip in now to the Minnesota Freedom Fund to help post bail for those protesting on the ground in Minnesota. So, wait, wait. I have an objection with this, okay?
Starting point is 00:31:59 Kamala Harris is supposed to be the law and order candidate, right? Yeah. So, how does this jive with this stupid tweet about donating to the minnesota freedom you know like you know remember when i mentioned last week like the bugs bunny meme where he's like just leaning up against the wall with his eyes half closed and just like raises that's how i feel right now just like oh yeah you know oh yeah one of these again huh yeah listen i was talking to... Wait a minute. Want to donate, Tim?
Starting point is 00:32:26 Why does it go to Kamala Harris for the people? Oh. It goes through her. Oh, I see how this works. What? Look at this. Is it ActBlue? Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:32:35 No kidding. And it says KDH Social Minnesota Freedom Fund Ref Code. But it says Kamala Harris for the people. Who does... Okay, it does go to the Minnesota Freedom Fund ref code. But it says Kamala Harris for the people. Who does your... Okay, it does go to the Minnesota Freedom Fund. Okay, okay. I'm like, that's kind of weird. I was talking to a family member
Starting point is 00:32:52 who said that in the suburbs of Chicago, people are crossing their fingers that Kamala Harris will be a law and order candidate who is going to shut down the extremism. And I just laughed when I heard it. I'm like, dude, the lady is so desperately pandering to like the far left. You know why I just laughed at this? Do you know what the pro I'm doing air quotes, your protests were in Minnesota? I mean, of course you do. It was people running around
Starting point is 00:33:14 burning things down and they're still doing it. Yep. You know, so so who was getting bailed out? Protests. Oh, man. You know what? I wonder wonder i think some of these democrats genuinely believed they were peaceful protests maybe at first i'm not saying i'm not saying the high profile ones i'm saying there's a bunch of like you know you know uh dopey oh yeah you know not watching the news being like peaceful protests yes kamala harris on the other hand i bet she's sitting in like a situation room and she's like got like a, you know, a scowled face and she's like, what are they doing? These buildings?
Starting point is 00:33:50 Oh, we want their votes. Whatever. Tell me what to tweet. Yes. And she just goes for it. I imagine that's exactly what she does. In fact, I imagine tell me what to do is a lot of what Kamala says, because I don't think she thinks a lot for herself.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I mean, I think that she's constantly waiting for i gotta know you're right but i think it's unfair because joe biden is like joe biden isn't even able to carry out the commands he's given you know what i mean i didn't say this was unique to her i just said that she especially is really i i get it yeah but but but uh you know, Joe Biden. Yeah, that's fair. Man. What a dream team. Did you see the clip from the Joe Biden presser he did earlier?
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yeah. Where he was like, can you believe that in more than one year with a hundred year? And I'm like, what is he talking about, dude? Dude. Anyway. So to see this like epic gaslighting man you gotta love it cernovich responded to her and june 1st saying you are funding domestic terrorism uh-huh he got a thousand one hundred retweets yep and someone replied a day ago this aged well indeed it did she did now we got a uh a guy who was killed walking down the street for those that haven't
Starting point is 00:35:02 been following the story with um uh his name was aaron at danielson trump supporter walking down the street in portland and it was targeted this uh this killing so i'm sure most of you know by now this story has been ridiculously massive and it's it's one of the things they asked trump about in this press conference the the the woman from cnn said you know you want to condemn far-left violence put out your own supporters the there were trump supporters had paintball guns and stuff like that the the the woman from cnn said you know you want to condemn far-left violence put out your own supporters the there were trump supporters had paintball guns and stuff like that pepper spray pepper spray yeah bear mace said yeah and trump said you know your paintball like
Starting point is 00:35:36 look if they're going to defend themselves from violence it's very different from the bullets that were used to kill one of you know his supporters yeah and it's. And it's true, man. Well, first, just just keeping it on Biden before we jump over to the update on Aaron Danielson. And we got we got we got to talk about the you know, the information that came out from from a witness. Trump allies challenge Biden's tougher tone on riots. Note support for fund bailing out protesters. Donald Trump is the most lawless president in American history, said Biden's spokesperson. The last thing I just want to mention on this, because when I saw that gaslighting, it really did shock me to my core. I was just like the idea that Joe Biden can for months be like, look, fat, you know, support the protests peaceful, you know, and Kamala Harris could be
Starting point is 00:36:22 like, why don't everybody pitch in and help, you know, bail out these protesters like for her to tweet something like that and then do a complete 180 where now he's it was specifically that he's saying Trump is promoting this when it was literally it. Well, to be fair, I want to make sure I'm very careful in how I say this. Joe Biden did condemn the extreme violence several times. He did. And I respect that. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:47 However, his staff has been supporting it and the underlying protests they've absolutely supported. And almost exclusively, these protests have devolved into some kind of chaos. Yep. Real peaceful protests have been rare here. I've praised them every time they've happened. And typically, they don't get a lot of news coverage and people complain about it. They're like, Tim, why don't you talk about the fact that a thousand people marched with signs? I'm like, I did. I said praised them every time they've happened. And typically they don't get a lot of news coverage and people complain about it. They're like, Tim, why won't you talk about the
Starting point is 00:37:06 fact that a thousand people marched with signs? I'm like, I did. I said it was great. And I said, if they wanted to sit down and block the road, I would never probably, it's civil disobedience. It's great. But that's not what happened. Like, what do you want me to do? You want me to like talk for a half an hour, a bunch of people walk down the street waving signs. It was great. That's the problem with peaceful protest. It's boring. There's nothing really to report. No one gets hurt. No one gets shot. People just demonstrate and they are civilly disobedient sometimes. But it can generate positive press because it creates a story. The problem is they've escalated everything to a certain degree where, yeah, there's not a lot of news in people walking around waving signs unless it's massive. So when this first started, I was thinking that enough if enough conservatives would get out and peacefully demonstrate that they could make a big difference. But I am not convinced anymore because what what's the point to peacefully protesting?
Starting point is 00:37:56 I mean, I think an argument here. I think I think I saw something from Cernovich a moment ago where he was saying, stay home, make money, go vote. Yeah. And I think it's it's it's smart because the biggest the thing right now that's going to really, really mess up Trump supporters is retaliation. So this so so here's let's let's let's go to this story. We got news. Aaron J. Danielson died from gunshot wound to the chest. Medical examiner says,
Starting point is 00:38:19 I mean, we all pretty much knew it. There's a few things that I really want to talk about here. And I want to get into that. There's a tweet prior where they're trying to liken what's going on to Nazi Germany, blaming Trump supporters for this. This is crazy. They're posting fake videos from the real. They're posting videos from someone else defending that crazy guy in Portland who slashed three people. Well, and they're claiming it was him and it's not. Yeah, and it's a top comment on the Reddit post. They're saying that this guy was defending that murderer dude. It's not true.
Starting point is 00:38:50 They're just lying. That's crazy to me. And that's part of what I was saying about how they like don't Google search things. They don't care. I have to, I just, at a certain point, either we fire all these fake journalists or we
Starting point is 00:39:05 just accept they're doing it on purpose that's the only thing i can assume because every time i see something like that all it takes is 15 seconds of google searching and the right you know search term and i can come up with what i need this is the funniest thing about like my job is that i i get hit from hit up hit up by people who are like you know thank you for like doing the work and fact checking i see reviews where they're like, you know, thank you for like doing the work and fact checking. I see reviews where they're like, you know, Tim always makes sure he has proper sources. I'm like, it's true. I do. And it's not hard.
Starting point is 00:39:32 It's possible. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, I think I think it is fair to say I do know where to go to find breaking stories. Right. I do have a better assessment of like what's true. And I do. You know, a lot of people don't like this. They claim I don't do journalism when I'm literally
Starting point is 00:39:48 verifying videos and fact checking and finding the sources for photos and videos. And I won't report on stories if the sources are questionable. So it's true. But it's amazing to me that often like fact checking a story requires like a Google search. I find a Twitter video. I find a corroborating tweet. And then I see a story the new york times and their source is law enforcement i'm like looks good to me but then these other journalists are just like well my grandma said that this guy was a nazi you know it's because they're working backwards i'm fairly convinced at this point that they are starting from their conclusion and they're working back and it doesn't matter what gets in the way they're going to say whatever needs to be said
Starting point is 00:40:25 to get to their conclusion. That's the craziest thing to me. At a certain point, they've... Come on, man. The American people... If you want to pull the George Carlin thing when he said, imagine how stupid the average person is.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Now realize half of them are stupider than that. Yep. Yeah, it's funny. George Carlin was a legend. Oh, it's true. I love that guy. And... Right, right. I get the point it's true however people aren't that stupid like joe for joe biden to come out and be like donald trump you're joe biden literally said your supporters coming out and like intimidating threatening people and i'm like do do you think that? All right. Listen, maybe the bottom 10 percent of intelligence are sitting there going like, whoa, those
Starting point is 00:41:10 guys wearing all black and screaming Black Lives Matter were white nationalist Trump supporters. That's crazy. Isn't that weird? But come on, that's got to be like that's like Forrest Gump wasn't even that dumb. You know what I mean? Those people who are saying that those people who are agreeing with that are also working backwards.
Starting point is 00:41:27 They have a conclusion. The conclusion is orange, mad, bad. Whatever supports this. I know. I know. I get it. But like, how do you have three months of footage of people screaming Black Lives Matter? And then Joe Biden goes, listen, those guys actually Trump supporters.
Starting point is 00:41:42 And they just go like, oh, now that's right. They were Trump supporters. Maybe we maybe we esteem politicians too highly because I can't imagine someone else saying that and getting away with it. I guess maybe maybe he's counting on people who don't pay attention and they just see the headlines. Definitely low information. So here's the first thing I want to mention.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Right. If you if you watch my earlier segments, then you know a little bit about this. But the guy who was with Aaron Danielson, his name, they called him Jay. I guess his middle initial said that they were walking the other direction when someone yelled, we got him right here. We got a couple right here. Pull it out here. Yeah, they turn around. Bang, bang. So it seems like these guys, we now know, based on the witness, it was the far leftists who yelled, we got a couple right here. Yep. Pull it out.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Wasn't them. And this guy, Aaron Danielson, turned around, and it does look like in this really crappy, grainy video that he fires mace or whatever. The left is trying to claim that was self-defense. But based on the witness statement for now, it's the only statement we have, they turned around and saw a guy raising a gun to him and so he went for his mace and it's like man maybe you see someone raising the weapon but you don't know what to do it's a you have a quarter of a second to decide yeah what do you and so he raised the mace and then took two to the chest so this guy was targeted based on the witness statement i'll tell you what
Starting point is 00:43:01 the people who are trying to argue that the far leftist guy was defending himself from mace. It's like you're going to be hard pressed to convince based on that video that you saw someone drawing mace and therefore you decided to end their life. You could try and argue that I couldn't tell what it was.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I saw him raising something at me. So I defended myself. But it was almost the exact same time. And they approached him yelling, we got a couple right here. Yeah. How do you explain the audio? And then he fled as fast as he could so apparently this is crazy too um i guess his his
Starting point is 00:43:30 sister is the one who turned him in we got this from the daily mail portland antifa protester who is under investigation for shooting of patriot prayer trump supporter uh after being turned over to police by his own sister so apparently he was reported to police by his own sister. So apparently he was reported to police by his sister who recognized him in photos and videos from Saturday night. This was not like, listen, the Trump supporters have a right to drive their cars around and say silly things. That's just a fact. Of course. And so this is where it gets really, you know, really frustrating in terms of the national narrative from the left. They're like, I saw a journalism professor. Her name is Emily Bell. I know her. I think she's a nice person. But she tweeted,
Starting point is 00:44:09 you know, I had to call a family member scared because, you know, fake militias are invading our towns. I never thought I would see something like this. And then a bunch of other journalists are like, oh, I'm so scared. I hope you're safe. And I'm just my response was, yeah, I feel the same way. You know, I had to deal with that several times when the riots were happening in Chicago with my family. You know, so the police definitely need to shut this down. But where where where is this? Where's the outrage over the fact that for months these cities have been under siege?
Starting point is 00:44:35 Were you not concerned about your family member when the far left was burning down buildings? It's Portland. There's been riots going on in residential neighborhoods for months. They physically attacked him at her house. You didn't think to call your family member and be concerned then? Maybe they think that they'll be left because they're special, because they agree with their points of view. Like if you paint the right things on your wall, you'll be left alone. I just got to say it. I think journalists are really dumb people. It's also possible. Yeah, I do. And the reason I think this is,
Starting point is 00:45:03 early on in the industry, I'm talking like a long, long time ago. And I guess it's journalism has been around for a really long time. You needed to you needed to know a lot to understand the world and create compelling information. I think one of the reasons that like this show does well and, you know, I think one of the reasons probably a lot of people watch is because I do a lot of research all the time. Right. And so I'm very quick to be able to cite or reference certain things. And it allows me to make better predictions because I've seen a bunch of different things and I can see a lot of the variables. Today, it's it's it's super easy. You don't want to these news organizations don't want to pay a lot of money. So they hire some
Starting point is 00:45:41 college kid for dirt. The kid has no skills and they're like, we don't care. Just write negative things about Trump and we're golden. Actually, Ryan Long. I was just thinking of that. So Ryan Long, the comedian, put out a new segment. It was today, right? Yeah. Oh, man, it was so good. It's called what is it? It's like a new Trump lead when Trump's what news is going to do when Trump leaves. And it's a bunch of people sitting around all talking about their anti-Trump articles if he wins. But then it turns out he loses and Joe Biden wins and they're all cheering. And then it's like one month later and they're all sweaty, like, I need something. What do we have? I got nine shares on this article about the vice president being a nice lady. She looks good today. The press conference went smoothly. And then someone's like, I got an article about Trump
Starting point is 00:46:24 and he's like, no, Trump's lost. He's just a guy now. No one cares. And then someone's like, I got an article about Trump. And he's like, no, Trump's lost. He's just a guy now. No one cares. And then he gets a text message saying like, you know, they're shutting down your office and he just wanders off. But it really is true. So what happens when you get journalists who don't know how to do research and who don't care to do research? That's the big issue. They're not passionate about their jobs. They're lazy. And they just want to get through the day. Listen, when you've got an office full of people like all these lefty journalists who are socialists or whatever, they all tend to be supporting this stuff. They don't want to work. Right. The last thing they want to do. They're like, I shouldn't have
Starting point is 00:46:55 to work. They're like, we should have a four day work week. Rent is fashion. Dude, I work all day, every day. Not because I'm doing it because it's you know what man i don't know what they really want to do with their lives do they want to like just sit around and have teen trumpets or something probably so this is something that i saw a little bit when i was working in nursing too there were people who were in the field that i was like you shouldn't be doing this you should not be here you should find a different job why what were they doing they were unsent they were insensitive they were impatient they were really sometimes dishonest and i was like no you shouldn't be doing this you should not be in this field at all i feel like all these lazy journalists like if you don't want to do research and if you're not
Starting point is 00:47:31 interested in historical stuff that happened that's not the right field for you find something else you know what they want it's a quick path actually let me start over this is what i've been talking about politicians they're not good enough at anything to become noteworthy. So they're like, if I can just tell people whatever it is they want to hear and I get elected, then I'll have my name in the history books. And I will have. Yeah. Same thing with journalists.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Yeah. A lot of these people are narcissists who are like, everyone should know my opinion and I shouldn't have to do any work for it. Blue check syndrome. Blue check syndrome. Yeah. I've seen a lot of blue blue checks you know they're famous no no I was gonna say like the things they do the unethical things they do desperate for followers and retweets and everything and I'm just like I roll my eyes I'm like yeah really I've had people hit me up asking like how do you get
Starting point is 00:48:21 more followers and I was like I don't know do good work dude i was like you know what i do i go on twitter and i just like when i say i just tweet that i just i don't even know think about it i rarely respond to people relative to what i post and i just will like see an article and i'll be like and i'll just like tweet it out and that's it well this is interesting so what they a lot of these journalists end up doing is like replying to people because they're like you know do the reply guy thing. I don't like the idea of depending on someone else for your like engagement. Why would you not go out and talk to people on your own?
Starting point is 00:48:53 This makes sense to me. They're not good enough at anything to to actually earn followers. I'm starting to agree. And I don't think they really have enough original thought to really be famous on Twitter on their own. Look at these reply guys who will like, whenever Trump tweets, they respond immediately. But look at their sole tweets. Like go to their Twitter account and look at their just regular tweets
Starting point is 00:49:11 and there's no engagement. They're so, they're boring. Like they don't have, they really don't have original thoughts that they tweet out. All they do is reply. No, I mean, you know, even what I mean is they might tweet something at Trump,
Starting point is 00:49:22 like you stink and you're orange. A million retweets. But then they'll tweet something like, I like a grilled cheese sandwich and it gets 10. Yeah. Showing whatever it is they're doing, they're getting little to no engagement. But I'll tell you what, man, some people are making insane amounts of money, like six figures. No joke. On Twitter? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:40 From selling stuff. Oh, okay. And donate to my Patreon and here's my PayPal. Yeah. That's the creepy game of Twitter. You know, people donate to my Patreon. And here's my PayPal. Yeah, that's the that's the creepy game of Twitter. You know, people need to realize this because I've been I've been looking at some of these activist threads and you'll see it. They'll post something like, can you believe our president is orange? Why is our president orange? Isn't that dumb? And it's got a million
Starting point is 00:49:59 retweets. The next tweet is donate to my PayPal to support me. If they get 100 million impressions on that and they got that link and they I mean, what they could probably get a couple grand. Yeah, I doubt they're actually getting anything near that. But if they get 50 bucks every time they do it, they're incentivized to produce the most psychotic garbage imaginable. I don't like monetizing that. Yeah, I know. Well, they want them retweets. Let's talk about this right here. Check this out. So this is one of the replies to this tweet from Felicia Sanmez, who said the DHS and DOJ are announcing a joint operation center to investigate violent left wing civil unrest. Trump says this is a screen grab with a hundred and two point seven
Starting point is 00:50:41 thousand retweets. Oh, boy. I want to make sure you can see it right there. 102.7k. He says, The history of Nazis holding rallies in left-wing areas of Weimar, Germany, instigating street fights, and then telling the press that only they could save Germany from the violent communists seems like an important thing for people to be studying right now. Wow, is that a gross mischaracterization of what's happening now and what happened back then. Do you know where Antifa comes from?
Starting point is 00:51:10 Tell me, Tim. Communist Germany. I'm sorry, from Weimar, Germany. It was the German Communist Party, anti-fascist action, whatever it is. So what's really been going on, and I've talked about this quite a bit, going back to the Battle of Berkeley several years ago, the far left is organizing extreme, they're targeting peaceful rallies. And a lot of people criticize these Trump supporters for going to left-wing areas and holding rallies. They didn't start any violence.
Starting point is 00:51:40 In Berkeley, for instance, a bunch of Trump supporters went to the Free Speech Plaza or whatever, because it was historical Berkeley, you know, 1970s. And then Antifa showed up and started beating and attacking people, throwing explosives, pulling out knives, improvised explosives and things like that. And I'm like, OK, you no one made you attack these people like you didn't have to do that. They decided to do it anyway. And now they're claiming it's the Trump supporters who are bad here. But the important factor, the important difference, which faction is going around demanding people salute them with their arm outstretched in front of them? Probably the right wingers since they're Nazis. Who's got their right arm straight out in front of them and demand other people are doing it right now? I get it. The only difference between
Starting point is 00:52:24 the Nazi salute and what Black Lives Matter is doing is they make a fist. That's right. I was going to say, you see that there's a huge difference because their fist is closed. It's not straight ahead of them. And I'm not even going to imitate that. So we've seen the photos and videos. They go to diners.
Starting point is 00:52:38 They harass and attack people. And then you get one Trump rally, one in Portland, OK, where they drove their trucks through. And then here it is, 100,000 retweets. I knew this was going to happen. That's why I think, you know, Cernovich said, stay home, make money and go vote. Absolutely. My thing is speak up. And we talked about this a few weeks ago where I was saying, you know, defend like old ladies
Starting point is 00:53:04 defending a statue is better optics and everything. Yeah. But speaking up is the most important thing in your workplace. And I think it's I don't know if staying home is the right answer. I don't know what the right answer is. But I'll tell you this. You drive your car with a Trump flag and they will claim that militias are invading cities. I saw today somebody compare it to ISIS.
Starting point is 00:53:23 The trucks that drive through Iraqaq with isis slags yeah they called it vanilla isis it's like well um it was antifa that just executed a guy in the street i mean that sounds a little isis-y if you ask me yeah and the the horrifying thing about this i was thinking about it are there are there any stories of trump supporters just like a dude in a maga hat like walking up and executing a leftist or anything like that no or even no and you know how i know because that would be front page international news for a month if that happened such a thing has not happened and it won't happen i don't i pray not you know i'm really hoping nothing like that happens because now i'm terrified of what happens if some if a group like Patriot Prayer decides to try to retaliate.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I'm worried. Or if Patriot Prayer doesn't like, OK, if Patriot Prayer decides to do a march. Yeah, that's it. That's then you're going to have all of these Democrat operatives and the press sitting in their chairs salivating like you step on a twig and we are going to write a front page story claiming you did horrifying things tim they're having one on the 26th yeah that's a bad idea yeah i here's the challenge do we tell them you are not like do not go out and express yourselves on the first amendment i know that makes me mad and that's what the left wants they can create this circumstance that i should say the far left these extrem, they want to create a circumstance where the right knows that if they step out of line in any way and they've come out, they'll start the fight and the press will defend the extremists. This is kind of clever because you're not actually saying you cannot come out. You're not actually saying you may not speak. You're telling them that if they do, they suffer for it but they're not actually they're not overtly saying it's all very covert and of course because the media has their back it's
Starting point is 00:55:09 gonna work that's true that's tough you know like uh again i want to be careful and when i say this i think it was mike cernovich who said stay home make money vote or whatever i don't want to miss it misattribute quotes somebody who didn't say it but i i someone tweeted it i think it was mike the point is man that's tough. We all have rights. You know, we can go out and wave little flags if we want to. And getting attacked by Antifa, that's messed up that the media does this.
Starting point is 00:55:33 It's why I rag on them so much. Like this whole episode is like me ragging on the media. Well, yeah, of course, because the media controls what people think of the world way more than they should. We give them far more power and far more credit than we should.
Starting point is 00:55:44 So they need to be held to account. I was thinking something earlier today that actually gave me hope. I think the media class is on the verge of collapse entirely, even though we're seeing ratings go up and everything. We were joking just a moment ago about if Trump loses, like they're wiped out.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Right. And I feel like that, what we're seeing right now, even with Tucker Carlson, is Trump is inflating all media viewership. I think everything drops dramatically if Trump loses. But Internet shows, particularly like this one, are going to survive and flourish. I was thinking about something and I'm going to I mentioned I think I mentioned this last week, but I was thinking about it again today, especially with Donald Trump tweeting, liking my tweet. Why didn't anybody ask me anything?
Starting point is 00:56:31 Why don't they talk to you about it? No one's asked anything about it. Something really funny happened. So apparently some people on Wikipedia have been complaining. My career stops at 2017. The media just stopped talking about me. Why is that? I don't know and i think it's funny my well i have a general idea and i know this may seem like i rarely talk about
Starting point is 00:56:52 myself this directly but in the past month with youtube podcast and facebook it's over 100 million views across all of my my content and uh it's like know, three hours and 40 minutes a day of content. So it's kind of, these are big numbers. Apparently, I'm getting hit by people. You know, Trump is liking my tweet. I'm getting a bunch of attention. And the media completely ignores everything about me. In fact, somebody tweeted about me saying something critical. And some other leftist replied, who? Like, no one cares who he is there's a really funny tweet about a year ago or so where some leftist journalist tweeted something like whatever happened to that tim pool guy it's so sad he was getting six figures working for these
Starting point is 00:57:34 companies and now he's got like a crappy little patreon getting like a thousand bucks because i don't use patreon right they're just like sitting there and then i'm just like it's really amazing and i think this you know when i reflect on myself and my work is a really good example of how broken the media is and why it's going to die. It's simple. If they had any idea what was actually going on outside of their mainstream bubble, their Beltway bubble, the kind of conversations people were having, then they'd be like, what's up with this dude who's getting 100 million views a month per month who just got a like
Starting point is 00:58:04 from the president. Instead, all these outlets that were talking about Trump liking my tweet were saying things like Trump liked a tweet, you know, from a user saying Kyle Rittenhouse is a good example of why I voted, decided to vote for the president. They didn't stop to be like, this guy's got 650,000 followers and like, who is he? And look into me and none of that nothing at all so does this make you feel like super famous or super stealthy or kind of annoyed neither it makes me feel like there's two realities happening and it's true like you look at cnn and man do they have no idea what's going on but how could it be that you know like right now 52,541 people watching live you guys
Starting point is 00:58:42 are awesome by the way thanks guys are watching live and you know having conversations talking about all this and they have no idea it's happening this is it I don't think there is a silent majority no I think there's there's a silent group of people that are scared to speak up
Starting point is 00:58:59 but I think people are speaking up I think the mainstream media just is like it is a circle of people all staring at each other's butts. And they're like, it's like, yo, we're over here. Like, are you watching what's happening? Your industry is collapsing. So I guess the way I put it is the New York Times subscriber base is going up while every other news organization is collapsing, giving this false idea to these journalists that they're doing better when they're actually going down the drain. If they had any idea the conversations that were happening outside of the Beltway bubble among
Starting point is 00:59:29 moderate, disaffected liberals, the politically homeless and conservatives. You mean everyone? Normal people? They'd be writing. They'd be writing a lot more about this phenomenon. I had someone comment on a post of mine earlier about walk away. And they were like, it's not real. It's a lefty guy. He's like, it's not real. People aren't walking away. There's no real data on it. And I was like, did you see all the C-SPAN phone calls? And his response was, you know, he's like, that's not real data. Those are anecdotes. It means nothing. And I mentioned Axios actually wrote an article
Starting point is 01:00:00 about this, saying that Republicans are closing the gap with registered voters, with Democrats, over-registered voters. And it's not because they're registering new voters. It's two big reasons. This is according to Axios. People are leaving the Democratic Party or they're switching parties, which is giving Republicans a boost and narrowing the gap between the two parties. I think that proves there is data this is from cook political analysis or whatever walk away is a real phenomenon i think the media is a little bit like inspector clouseau and the pink panther who is really bumbling and i feel like they're staring with their little um magnifying glass they're looking for clues and they're looking in a dark corner
Starting point is 01:00:40 and everyone's behind them and they're like what are they doing we're right here they're like there's no one here you guys are crazy i don't know what you guys are talking about there's no silent majority i think we're getting to the point and i you know when you see brian stelter on cnn and he says something and you're just like dude do you have google like what is this because they all they all get their news from twitter and they all follow each other on twitter and there have been progressive journalism professors who said people have an unhealthy Twitter obsession and these journalists need to get off of it. I remember when there was a big trend where I think it was BuzzFeed. I'm not sure. They ordered their staff. Oh, no, no, no. It was
Starting point is 01:01:17 like Outline or something or Dateline. I don't remember. They ordered their staff to not use Twitter for a week to like actually do journalism. You put this look on your face. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know what happened with it. I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:01:31 I don't know. But it reminds me a bit of what the Ryan Long comedy sketch earlier. Yeah. So if you haven't seen it, you definitely got to see Ryan Long's comedy sketch. But he in it, he says there's like one guy, Stephen King and who else? I don't know. They're not on Twitter anymore. What am I supposed to do? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:46 What am I supposed to do? Come up with an article of thin air. And the other guy is like, is there a template for like what people used to do? Dude, Ryan nails a bunch of stuff. He's like, what are these people going to do after Trump's gone? And on our show, he was talking about how they're going to like pack it up in a suitcase and just walk out into the ocean. I was like, yeah, what are they supposed to do? Slowly into the sunset and just walk under the water and they're into the
Starting point is 01:02:10 water and they're gone. I don't know, dude. It's so weird because I look, you know, people have said the similar things to me. Clearly, I just rag on Democrats all the time. Right. Therefore, once the political battle is over, what am I going to talk about? And I'm like, I'm going to go back talking about the exact thing I was talking about because I was making content for the last several years. I have a video about cultural issues. I have a video like I'm pretty sure it's still this way on my main channel, Timcast, that the default video is me talking about Jordan Peterson and cultural issues.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I love nothing to do with politics. But politics became like the top tier pop culture. And so I certainly jumped in the fray. I think we might we'll see a couple things. If Trump leaves, there's a good likelihood they won't stop doing what they do. They'll just replace Trump's name with something similar. For sure. They'll find something.
Starting point is 01:03:01 They'll lie. I mean, you know, maybe maybe I should take that back. I think they're already squeezing like, you know, it's, you know, what is it? Extra virgin olive oil is when they like get the first fresh drop. Yeah. Oh, no, that's extra, extra, isn't it? Yeah, I don't know. Basically, you've got a dry withered husk of an olive and they're like pounding with
Starting point is 01:03:18 a mouth like, give me something. There's a better way to put it. They're scraping the bottle. They're scraping the bottom of the barrel so hard they're pulling up wood chips people started telling me oh man i'm seeing a bunch of wood chips lately and i was like oh i know right when they write a story like vox did where they said something like what did they say 40 million americans have alt-right ideas or something yeah you google that can you google Something like that. It's clearly not true. And they're just like, well, white nationalists drink water and, you know, 40 million Americans prefer water.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Therefore, did you find it? 11 million Americans think like alt-right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So this is actually from a little while ago, but they're saying that millions and millions of white Americans are just thinking on the same lines as the, you know, Charlottesville people. Because they like cats. Yes oh gosh that's that's literally the game they're playing they're like well the white nationalists believe that we should have strong borders therefore these people think like them dude i have no patience for that nonsense because it is possible to have so what i notice a lot is just a tiny little grain of truth at the bottom of everything
Starting point is 01:04:25 and you can go the wrong way with it like white nationalists or you can be sane and reasonable about it like a normal person but the fact that there is a common grain of truth they just run wild with it and it's yeah sense well it's it's getting to the point where it's really difficult to actually cover anything so for instance there there have been several stories that I know to be true and have fact-checked, but NewsGuard, the third-party fact-checking source, will give it like, no, this is a bad source. And then you'll get... Actually, here's a really good example.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Take a look at this story from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. This is one of the first stories we highlighted. Oh, yeah. Trump mischaracterizes Kenosha protest shootings, defends Rittenhouse. Okay. They got three journalists on this one claiming that because Trump said Rittenhouse was attacked and he may have been killed, he's mischaracterizing it. I mean, that's an opinion. Yeah. Does it say opinion on here? It does not. It says elections. Nope. It doesn't say an opinion anywhere. So this is an opinion story. Whether or not he mischaracterized it, they're asserting
Starting point is 01:05:23 it's a fact. Well, of course, NewsGuard says the only strike they get is for not disclosing financing. Not failing to differentiate fact from opinion. That's fine. Yeah, it looks fine. Now, to be fair, I guess they could argue it was just one time they did this. Media Matters for America, which is rights conspiracy theories and lies all day, is green. It's good to go. Seriously?
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yeah. So we're coming to a point where this is the point I'm trying to make. Okay. So look, I wasn't trying to toot my own horn when I was talking about my viewership. The point I'm trying to make is if people on Wikipedia are saying things like Tim Pool's career stopped at 2017 and there's no new information about him at all on anything he's done yet, like since he left Fusion. How do we update this? And like, apparently people are saying things about I recently came out in support of Trump, therefore they should add it.
Starting point is 01:06:14 And they're like, there's no articles about this. Nobody cares. I love it. Could you imagine what would like remember? Remember when Joe Rogan said he would rather vote for Trump over Biden, not even committed. Right. And it was like every paper ever wrote about it. Yes, there are articles about that.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Yeah. It's so weird. You know why? I think because these people still like they use iTunes. So when they open the app, they see Joe Rogan. So they know it. Right. But they're not attuned to what's going on with the Internet and regular people and where
Starting point is 01:06:40 they're consuming news in digital ways. So they have no idea that conversations like this happen every single day to i think what we're at what's with three to three to 3.5 million viewers per day across across all my content and the media isn't talking about it and that that is kind of a self uh self-fulfilling prophecy because i think to them if an article is not written about something that happens it didn didn't happen, which is really interesting. So the best part, I tweeted this. Oh, actually, maybe I didn't tweet it. Maybe I was like about to and I deleted it. How is Wikipedia supposed to function as an encyclopedia if the only criteria for recording important historical information is that some 22-year-old college grad who makes 30,000 a year has to blog
Starting point is 01:07:25 about it? That's a great question. Certainly it is of merit that, like the work I do and over the past several years, but the journalists don't know what's happening. So again, I'm not trying to humblebrag or anything. I mean it sincerely. The point I'm trying to bring up is that there's a substantial audience here. The media has no idea it's happening while their ship is sinking. We are all on a ship sailing towards golden shores and rainbows. And, you know, people are having pina colada and they're singing and their ship is headed towards the waterfall and they're going full speed ahead. I think there's land that way. And we're like, what are they doing? They're going the wrong way.
Starting point is 01:08:06 It's like blockbuster video, man. Yeah, man. Netflix. Yeah. Well, they've simultaneously gotten bigger and bigger heads as they've engaged on social media and gotten more and more followers. At the same time, their quality is decreasing as they're outsourcing and they forget, you know, how to Google things and how to research things and how to actually do investigative
Starting point is 01:08:24 journalism. Like the guy who did the piece for the New York Times, I think it was Christian, whatever his last name was. That was impressive. I was like, he actually he used to work for. Sorry, he used to work for Bellingcat and he actually did investigative journalism. So he actually knows what it's like to get that to do research. Well, I mean, the research. That's good.
Starting point is 01:08:43 They hired him. Right. And now he's got a factual piece of video like i looked at all the videos too i saw similar things and i saw some journalists bring up these things but so long as you have many of these underpaid low quality fake news what do we call them what you call them activists yeah then you're gonna get bad information they're basically like interns kind of because you're like saying like the 22 year old who writes about Brad Pitt's junk for, you know, $50,000 a year. Like that's. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:09:09 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not the intern. Not the intern. I got 10 bucks an hour. OK, OK, then just activists. Well, they they lower the quality at the same time. The journalists are getting to feel more and more important because they have fake followers on social media because they reply to Trump.
Starting point is 01:09:23 And it's like, yeah, something's wrong there. That's a bubble. It's got to burst. Or to each other. You know, I noticed this too. They prop up their friends to give them followings. And that's one of the issues. I think one of the easiest ways to explain it, actually,
Starting point is 01:09:36 if you have one person and they have 100,000 followers and that one person says, hey, everybody, follow Jim. Right. Then Jim gets 60,000 followers. Then Jim says, hey, everybody, follow Bill. Right. Then Jim gets 60,000 followers. Then Jim says, hey, everybody, follow Bill. And then Bill gets 40,000 followers. That's still part of the same group of 100,000 from the first journalist.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Yeah, that's something that I think about. I'm like, if someone recommends me followers, I'm not really getting new followers. I'm just we're just kind of sharing followers. Exactly. Like that's not really an improvement. I don't really care. So this is actually a clever tactic that I won't name the business. Business model. So what you can do is you can duplicate your follower count for advertisers by creating new accounts and having people follow multiple accounts of yours.
Starting point is 01:10:16 So you create a Twitter account. You get 100,000 followers. You create a second account and you say, hey, everybody, follow me on this account too. Then you can say, I, everybody, follow me on this account, too. Then you can then you can say I have one hundred and fifty thousand followers. They imagine one hundred fifty thousand people standing around when, in fact, it's the same one hundred thousand. But you do that ten times and you have a network now and you say our network has over a million followers and it's actually the same one hundred thousand just following a bunch of different
Starting point is 01:10:39 accounts. You're gaming it. I mean, it's clever. It's not technically a lie, but it's not completely honest. So if you want to lead people to assume things... Anyway, the point I'm bringing up is these journalists probably have a much smaller user base than they realize, but they see all these journals, all these followers, and think that they're big, when in reality, it's like a smaller group between them. Maybe not. Maybe it's a larger
Starting point is 01:11:04 group, but I think that still is a big, plays a big role in this. Well, I think that's part of having a bubble in the first place is following the same journalists and having the same ideas and kicking the same things around and retweeting to the same people
Starting point is 01:11:15 and getting those, you know, retweets and comments and everything. It's just, oh, it's so tiresome. How do you break people out of this bubble is the hardest question, I guess. You gotta pop it. No, you can't so uh like we we've really dived into a lot of the kyle rittenhouse stuff today and like trump's answers there's nothing i could say to my progressive saw friends to convince them that they're wrong literally nothing i could send them a video and be like
Starting point is 01:11:42 here's him being attacked and they go i don't care i i don't know what to do about that it's ignorance and apathy they don't care and they don't know and how are you supposed to change whether someone cares about something you know carlin borisenko i found your name right right yeah carlin yeah not your name right we're trying yeah uh she tweeted something like i thought tim cass was being hyperbolic when he talked about civil war after seeing what's what's it rep uh Demings, I think her name was, say this is just what happens, you know, the guy gets shot in Portland. Part and parcel, baby. Yeah, may as well have just pulled a Sadiq Khan. That she was like, I guess, paraphrasing basically that she thought I was being hyperbolic and it turns out I probably wasn't when a year ago, one year ago, I had some people over to my house, some video
Starting point is 01:12:28 producers, and they were talking to me about potential projects and, you know, what they wanted to focus on. And I told them, here's what's going to happen in the next year. And here's what you need to understand. And I'm not kidding when I say I predicted the BLM riots 100 percent. They didn't believe me. They were like, that's ridiculous. That's crazy. But my prediction was based on the fact that it already happened in 2013, 2014, 2015.
Starting point is 01:12:52 I wasn't just making up random things like, ooh, and then riots will happen over racial issues. Ooh, you're looking at your crystal ball again. I was like, this is what's going to happen next. It's going to be crazy. And I'm like, it's going to get bad. People are going to die. And they're like, this is nuts.
Starting point is 01:13:04 And I'm like, it's going to be some kind of civil war i don't even call whatever you want it's not going to be the way we imagine civil war but i don't know what else you call it so do you think obama made it worse definitely how so uh he so when it came to trayvon martin like the story between trayvon and zimmerman is extremely complicated right and trayvon for uh zimmerman for instance is is Hispanic. He was like a white Hispanic guy. So is Kyle. Kyle Rittenhouse, he's also Hispanic.
Starting point is 01:13:35 But, you know, Barack Obama's whole perspective on it was the left-wing perspective. If I had a kid, he'd look like Trayvon. Instead of calling for unity and saying, you know, we need to understand sometimes these circumstances are tragic, unfortunate, and violence and death happens, and that's why we need to understand sometimes these circumstances are tragic, unfortunate, and violence and death happens. And that's why we need to make sure this doesn't happen. And we need to expand beyond the people while respecting those who lost their lives, calling for justice, recognize this is a systemic issue that needs to be solved.
Starting point is 01:13:58 What I mean by systemic is like in the instance of Breonna Taylor, it's not about racism. It's about no-knock warrants. Right. So Rand Paul says, hey, none of these. And I understand some people have some, you know, good reasons for no-knock warrants. I prefer no. I think they have to announce themselves and they can make a perimeter. You can't because people have a right
Starting point is 01:14:18 to defend themselves too. And you're creating a circumstance to put potentially innocent people in harm's way. So that's one of the things he could have done. But more importantly, it was Obama and Biden during all of that stuff. They consistently took the left-wing view of everything. The right was bad. Of course, it was. The National Guard was deployed to Ferguson. They sent out police, very much so under Obama's watch. Racial tensions escalated, particularly with the Black Lives Matter. See, people have a hard time believing me when i tell them that i'm like i really think that obama did more to undermine race relations in this country than you could possibly imagine
Starting point is 01:14:53 that the first black president would and people are like are you crazy but i i don't think it's that much though you don't think it was like like okay so listen off the top of my head it's the thing he mentioned if i had a kid trayvon and it's very much more in Ferguson and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't think it's Trump's. I don't think it's Trump's fault. And I don't think it was Obama's fault. I think there's definitely things that Trump and Obama said or did that contribute.
Starting point is 01:15:16 They're the president, of course. But I think the fault of these issues, for the most part, lands in localities. It lands in the media and for the most part, the media and the activists. OK, but do you think that because the media was entirely in Obama's pocket, do you think that they gave him more credence than he might have even necessarily deserved when he was saying his race basis? Absolutely. Yeah, way more than Trump.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Because they go after Trump, they fan the flames of this. The media, in my opinion, is the biggest player here. And I think social media as well. For instance, Cassandra Fairbanks got suspended from Twitter. She's a conservative journalist because she tweeted that Kyle Rittenhouse did nothing wrong. Right. They suspended her for an opinion over an individual who has not been convicted. Yet Antifa is actively organizing on the platform. Right. Social media is to blame. Media in general is to blame. And they go hand in hand. These fake news journalists defend censorship. They say, but they lie. Oh, the lies, man. Cassandra Fairbanks gets suspended.
Starting point is 01:16:18 And they say there's no bias against conservatives. Well, hold on. Antifa is on the platform saying, hey, everyone everyone we're meeting here bring sticks right like okay i'm exaggerating but they'll be like bring supplies to help defend you know the the the the community that's okay so i would say that the media wields even more power than any almost any politician yes absolutely how is that okay it's not okay well it's not so much whether it's okay or it's not okay. The issue is there's they're unchecked. Right. Anybody who dares challenge them, they smear.
Starting point is 01:16:49 I mean, I'm not going to get into it, but Gamergate, for instance, was very like from my view of what it was, and I probably don't know a whole lot about it. You get a bunch of people saying, hey, these journalists are taking money from the advertisers and then they're writing bunk articles. And the next day they're like a bunch of white supremacists are harassing us. Uh-huh. Weird, right?
Starting point is 01:17:11 Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. So look, I already know that even bringing it up, I'm going to get a bunch of people being like, here's what really happened. And the left is being like, how dare you defend? They still talk about Gamergate. The left still says like Trump is the Gamergate president or whatever.
Starting point is 01:17:25 And it's like, you know what? You know what's funny? Who was it who tweeted this? It was Oliver Darcy claiming that the right defending Rittenhouse is like the definition of radicalization. Yes. Was that? That was him, right?
Starting point is 01:17:37 That was him. So he's CNN guy for Sunday morning. And I'm just like, OK, let's play a game. Let's define radicalization. How about do this? Can you can you Google search the word? We're going to play a game. Let's define radicalization. How about do this? Can you Google search the word? Yeah, I'll Google that right now. We're going to play a game.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Define radicalization. Just Google radicalization's definition. What does Google say? Okay, it says the action or process of causing someone to adopt radical positions on political or social issues. Wait, this sounds like, okay, go on. What were you going to say? So radicalization, that's the name of the game.
Starting point is 01:18:03 All right. Is it radical to suggest border security? Nope. No, because the Democrats were in favor of it a decade ago. I mean, even Hillary Clinton in the past election cycle was saying we needed some kind of border security. Okay, okay. Is it radical to suggest that we should bolster the economy, bring factories back, and help
Starting point is 01:18:20 the middle class get jobs? Absolutely not. Okay. I don't know. What else do we got? Is it radical to suggest that the United States should be able to defend itself and that its allies should pay their fair share towards defense spending when we send our troops over to their jurisdiction? No, that seems fair. Yeah, because we've been doing it for decades. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Is it radical to suggest we should remove our troops from the Middle East and from other unnecessary endless wars? Absolutely not. No, because the left has been calling for it for decades. Up until Trump calling for it for decades. Up until Trump called for it. Is it radical to suggest that we should overhaul and abolish our private health care system and replace it with pure government spending? Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:53 That's completely radical. That's an over, like, okay, maybe we can work. Is it radical to suggest we should build trains and phase out air travel and ban all fossil fuels. So, yes. Yes, because radical, if we got into the definition of radicalization, but the word radical, the root word, especially of a change or action relating to or affecting
Starting point is 01:19:17 the fundamental nature of something far-reaching or thorough. Okay. So, yes, the whole plane's changing things. Is it radical to suggest we should decriminalize border crossings yeah is it radical to suggest that we should no longer deport people who enter the country illegally yeah these are these things are all radical compared to where america's been for the past 200 years and that is far reaching right so obviously we can go back in time and talk about you know they like to make these arguments about when citizenship became a thing and when borders became a thing and they became things.
Starting point is 01:19:48 And as far as I as far as as long as I've existed in this country, we've had border security and border patrol and immigration services. It is radical to me as a regular American to be told abolish private health care, which is literally what Bernie said. I'm not exaggerating. The Green New Deal, banning fossil fuels and a moratorium on deportations and decriminalizing border crossings and providing universal health care to noncitizens. I'm like, that's psychotic. You want to inch towards this stuff? I'll be like, OK, concessions can be made. But to be like, right.
Starting point is 01:20:22 What do you got? So this is OK. Yeah, I'll let you finish what you're thinking but heather hang made this point a while ago and this is something that jordan peterson talked about a little bit you don't fool with something that's been in place for a very long time unless you have an extremely good reason for doing so because things are in place often for a reason i'm not talking about flaws in our society like racism and sexism and all that stuff. I'm talking about things like borders. Things that every single country in the
Starting point is 01:20:51 world has. You mess with those kinds of things, you mess with the nuclear, you mess with the family at your own peril. These are things that you definitely do not understand. You do not understand the implications of what you're trying to do. when you do radical things that's exactly what you're doing and i know without a doubt by looking at people like aoc that they're not thinking past stage one this is why it's it's fascinating to watch joe biden when i think he said something today do i look like a dirty social what do you what do you say do i look like a radical like a socialist? It's like, I got to be honest, Joe. Yes. I said earlier, no.
Starting point is 01:21:29 And let me make sure I can clarify this. No, in the sense that Joe Biden looks like a crotchety old man who has no idea what's going on. He looks weak. Right. But, you know, I was thinking about it in terms of the conversation of radicalization. I mean, Joe Biden has agreed to a lot of Bernie's proposals. Not all of them.
Starting point is 01:21:44 He's not far left enough. But that's radical to regular Americans. Right. I mean, it's mind blowing to me. I think I think Kamala actually walked this back. They said, like, who would be in favor of abolishing private health care? She raised her hand, right? I remember that.
Starting point is 01:21:57 In the initial in the early debates. And then she issued a public statement like later that day or night or saying, oh, actually, no, I don't want to do that. I remember this. It's radical to say you want to abolish private health care. It is radical to say you want to defund the police. It is particularly radical for The New York Times to publish an article saying, yes, we mean abolish the police.
Starting point is 01:22:17 So who are the radicals? It's the left. So it's no surprise to go back to what I was saying, that we can have these conversations, that we can get tremendous viewership, not just me, but many other channels. And the media has no idea it's happening because they're in the radical bubble. To them, Trump is far right because they're far left. Whereas Trump's actually a moderate relative to American policy. They've radicalized themselves.
Starting point is 01:22:45 And, you know, it's really sad. I was talking to a friend, and his first foray into the actual through the fire, like the outside, what can we call this? Basically, I think it was Breitbart who said this, walk through the fire. Yep. On the other side, there's freedom.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Yeah, Andrew Breitbart. Yeah, and so there are people who are still on the other side scared, and they've not seen outside. They have not other side scared, and they've not seen outside. They have not seen the freedom, and they have not seen what's actually going on. And then as soon as they peek their head out, they're like, ah, what's happening? It's scary. It's cold.
Starting point is 01:23:13 And where am I? And it's like, you're on the beach, dude. We're chilling. You're on your own now. They like being in that cave surrounded, being told what to do, told what to think. I imagine it this way. All of these people are sitting in a cave, and there's one person in the front of that cave telling them, here's what's happening outside. Trust us. There's fire. It'll burn you.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Plato's cave? Kind of. Yeah, yeah. I think that's what it is. Is it Plato's? I think it is. But the general idea is a bunch of people are being told, if you go outside, the fire will burn you. Don't do it. Just trust us and we'll tell you. And then, you know, do work for us.
Starting point is 01:23:44 It's easy. It's safe. And well, it's, I mean, if you trust people, it makes sense. If you grew up with someone, you know, always there for you, and they told you if you go outside, you'll die because the air is poison. And then you grow up and finally go outside and you discover the air is not poison. Then, you know, Rick and Morty reference, by the way. Then you're like, my whole life is a lie. What's happening? And you might have like a, you know, Rick and Morty reference, by the way, then you're like, my whole life is a lie. What's happening?
Starting point is 01:24:05 And you might have like a, you know, what's the right word? You might have an intense reaction. You'll have an existential crisis for sure. Yeah. So a lot of people who go through this, you know, they probably resist it. It's like when we're talking to Brandon Strzok from WalkAway, and he said that he did all this research and he was willing to let it all go if Rachel Maddow produced some hard evidence against Trump. Like he had watched all these videos. He had seen that they were
Starting point is 01:24:28 lying about Trump. And then Rachel Maddow said, I got his tax return. He's like, OK, I will ignore everything I read if she has something. That was such an insight because it was like, I understand that feeling because I've I've made some hard changes in my own thinking. And I've been like, you know what? It would be easier if this weren't true i would like this to not be true but it is i i i totally get that i because i think about this but i guess you know what one of my advantages is is a bit of like existential nihilism in a sense where i feel like you should go through life with a smile on your face because i actually you know what i wonder if this is kind of like faith in a sense where it's like i feel that there is a plan a
Starting point is 01:25:10 purpose that the world is the world is what it is you're not no one you deserve nothing right you can work hard and then a rock can fall on your head and kill you yeah you know so i go through life under the under the like this view i've i've often thought about like if my channels got banned right oh yeah i know you think about that all the time and i just laugh and i'd be like well what can you do about it and i think this comes from you know when i was younger i remember my dad telling me if he was telling me about about the great depression right and now people were killing themselves because they lost all their money in the stock market and stuff and i was, why would they do that?
Starting point is 01:25:45 And he's like, if you made a million bucks and lost it overnight, you'd be angry too. And I'm, no, I wouldn't. I'd be like, wow, I had a million bucks. How about that? Well, what do I have to do now to get what I need? If you go through life with that kind of view, then you're not going to be this negative, angry person who's refusing to accept reality, right? So here's the ultimate point i'm trying to
Starting point is 01:26:05 make when i see news and it's like you know donald trump did a bad thing because the orange man is bad my reaction isn't like how dare they lie about trump i go like i wonder if this one's true right probably isn't but i'm gonna read it anyway and i go there we go it's not true so i i definitely develop a bias in the sense where it's like the media lies so much. I just can't give them the benefit of the doubt. But if something bad came out, you know, about Trump or Trump supporters, I'd just be like, uh-huh. I just don't care. You can't expect that your tribe is perfect. You can't expect the world is perfect. You can work as hard as you want. And while I do believe meritocracy is the best way to go about building functioning systems, you could be the
Starting point is 01:26:46 greatest guy in the world doing all the hardest work in the world, and then someone could walk up and just crack you over the head with a bat and you're gone. So it's just you live your life day to day and you accept that there's ups and there's downs. If bad news comes out, many people refuse to accept it, I think because they're're scared. The survivability is an issue. I don't know if you've ever read the poem that's called If by Rudyard Kipling. Nope. He talks about, he says, if you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue or walk with kings and not lose the common touch, if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you, if all men count with you but none too much, you're basically, this is what makes you a man of
Starting point is 01:27:24 character. If you look at people and you're like, this is what makes you a man of character. If you look at people and you're like, you know what? It doesn't matter what they do to me. This is a stoic teaching at this point. It doesn't matter what they do to me. It only matters what I do and whether I make something of myself. And if I lose everything, so what? That's the way it is sometimes.
Starting point is 01:27:39 And that's probably the most well-rounded philosophy you can have when you're looking at this crazy world that's currently on fire and insane. What else are you supposed to do? Be a little bit nihilistic. Care about the people around you. Do the best you can and look for truth. Like, what's better? I think I got lucky. I had good parents.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Yeah, I think you're right. It really helps. I remember I was late for school once because we lived on the south side of Chicago and there's trains that go through the south side. And the trains, man, man wow they're long you ever waited a train it's like the freight and you like turn your engine off on your car because you're like i'm gonna be here for 20 minutes right and so i remember going to school and the train blocked me and i got i was late and then i was like you know i come home and my dad was like you know i was like oh i was late you gotta sign a form or something i can't remember exactly what we used to do back then but he was
Starting point is 01:28:23 like well he's like this is your Like, why would why were you late? And I was like, it wasn't my fault. There's a train. And he goes, you knew the train tracks were there. It was your fault. If you know the tracks are there and you know the trains are there, then you need to prepare for the trains. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I guess you're right. I can't change the train schedules. Right. And I knew the trains come through in the mornings. I should have properly planned ahead. I used to drive with people who would get mad at red lights. They were like, well, the light would turn green. And they were like, why aren't we moving yet?
Starting point is 01:28:51 I'm like, because the car in front of you isn't moving yet. And there is nothing you can do about that. But you can wait until that car starts moving. And then you can go. And it's great. That's really it. It's like running into a wall. What does this remind me of?
Starting point is 01:29:03 You need to let go. You need it's it's what am i thinking of i was thinking it's like some some uh martial arts movie where he's explaining like going with the flow and having the like like you're you're in a river you know and it's you're you're flowing downstream and you can try and resist it or you can steer yourself and use that speed and control it. A better way to explain it is I can't control the wind, but I can't adjust my sails. Exactly. Stop getting so mad all the time. Right. Exactly. I think I think if you chill and a lot of these people aren't this is why they have these these these crises of character when news comes out about Trump. It's also why I think we're experiencing what we are with with Trump
Starting point is 01:29:44 derangement syndrome media. People can't accept in their world Trump is the evil bad man. Therefore, no matter what happens, they view it through the lens of Trump being the evil bad man. And so what ends up happening is they develop it's almost amazing how their brains are stitched together at this point, because it's kind of like if you took a motor scooter and duct taped it to a car and then put like bike pedals on it. You wouldn't expect to be able to drive. You're like, what is this?
Starting point is 01:30:12 Like, how do you actually make it move? Yeah. But they've somehow stitched together these broken reality. Frankenstein thing. This Frankenstein worldview and turned it into some kind of functioning system where they can still live, breathe and eat. And what I mean to say, you know, because it is a bit silly, but you'll simultaneously be like,
Starting point is 01:30:29 Trump is inciting violence. Why won't he stop this? How dare he send out police to stop this? Yep. Like, how do you have that in your brain at the exact same time? I tweeted this earlier. I said 2020 is the year of why won't this fascist dictator send troops to stop this peaceful rioting or something? Or why won't this fascist dictator seize all to stop this peaceful rioting or something or why won't this fascist dictator seize all our guns exactly or here's an article about a what here's an interview with a woman who wrote a book called in defense of looting by the way the looting is trump's fault
Starting point is 01:30:54 by the way it's not happening at all and it's entirely peaceful that's great i love to see it wow that that that reminds me of that david firth uh the the news hasn't happened yet yeah if you guys haven't seen david firth stuff you really got to watch it because the dude's a genius weird but but yeah yeah he has a segment called the news hasn't happened yet and that so reminds me of it's like the riots are peaceful the fires aren't really that bad protesters burning down buildings are also peaceful trump is inciting this he didn't actually say anything to incite it and he's sending out troops because he's a fascist but the troops actually aren't there and looting is actually a good thing yes all of these things no one sees any issue with this at all except maybe us it it's you know so
Starting point is 01:31:34 i guess the way i put it though it has to actually be the most negative interpretation always right trump is trump trump's want trying to send out gestapo secret police to round up protesters while he's inciting the violence. And he won't stop the violence because it's Trump's America. And looting is good because the protesters are doing it. And that's reparations. You know, what's funny to me is if you sat them down and you asked them to explain what they were thinking, you know they wouldn't be able to. And that baffles me.
Starting point is 01:31:58 How do you go through life without being able to explain what you think? Well, here it is, right? Yeah. How do you break people out of this this broken worldview there's nothing to break them into well no no there is like to to get them out and show them like so i was talking to a friend of mine who was very much like experiencing their first time through the flames and i sent him an article and they're like huh and you can clearly see when people starting to realize like, wait a minute, like, what is what is this all about?
Starting point is 01:32:27 The things I was reading before said this, that the orange man is bad. And I'm like, here's a video. Watch the video. Just watch Trump speak one time. I've mentioned this several times, but having gone to Trump's rallies early on, I think inoculated me from Trump derangement syndrome because it changed my assumptions. I met Trump supporters immediately. I met Trump supporters immediately. I watched Trump speak immediately.
Starting point is 01:32:48 And then when I saw stuff in the news, I was like, hey, you didn't say that. Whatever. Yeah. But I was working for companies experiencing them. Why? So, you know. That's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:56 I always tell people, if you think that you know what the media is doing, you should just watch Trump speak and then watch what they say about it. Because I always kind of place my bets. I'm like, which way are they going to go with this? Are they going to go two different ways? Different outlets are going to say different things about the same thing that was said? They do.
Starting point is 01:33:11 They do. They totally do. It's great. Every time. Do you see the, let me see if I can find it. It's an old Instagram post where it wasn't, I didn't put this tweet together, but I wasn't able to properly attribute the photo
Starting point is 01:33:24 because it was put together by someone with a very offensive name that would get me banned from Instagram. Oh, okay. So I was like, I don't put this tweet together, but I wasn't able to properly attribute the photo because it was put together by someone with a very offensive name that would get me banned from Instagram. Oh, OK. So I was like, I don't know. I can't even say the name because it's going to result in like getting a ban. But check this out. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:35 So this is a post I put on Instagram. And I think I think I mentioned this. I don't know whatever. But anyway, you've got two screens. This is amazing. This is in a gym. On the left, you've got CBS. Sondland confirms a quid pro quo.
Starting point is 01:33:49 This is in reference to Gordon Sondland testifying about Donald Trump and Ukraine. On the right is Fox News. Quote, I want nothing. Sondland confirms Trump told him no quid pro quo. You quite literally have two different news outlets reporting two different things being confirmed. They have the same image on the screen. Yep.
Starting point is 01:34:07 They have. Well, it's exactly. Yeah. So here's what I said. I said two different realities, and it's impossible to convince people what's true, but I'll try anyway. Sondland did not confirm quid pro quo. He stated that he presumed there was one, but received no direct orders and heard nothing of this from any other staffer.
Starting point is 01:34:24 He did confirm that Donald Trump said, I want nothing. Silence testimony of a presumed quid pro quo was contradicted by two other officials. Trump confirmed the I want nothing call. Maybe that's journalism, you know? To offer differing viewpoints. No, no, no, no, no, no. To actually do what I just did and say straight up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:42 You've got these two screens. Fox News was correct. CBS lied. Right. So just pick which two screens. Fox News was correct. CBS lied. Right. So just pick which is right. That's crazy, man. And so what happens is when you have this for four years and people build a worldview off of this, you can't change that because they'll go insane.
Starting point is 01:34:57 They'll have a nervous breakdown. Well, that's what I mean. There's nothing to pop them out of. There's nothing to pop them into out of their little bubble. Where do you go from there? They've been building this for of like there's nothing to to pop them into out of their little bubble where do you go from there they've been building this for years and there's there's nothing and if you sit them that's what i mean if you sit them down and ask them to explain what they're thinking they have nothing this feels like a grand experiment in like mass uh um delusional uh mass like media induced paranoid delusional complexes or whatever.
Starting point is 01:35:25 Yeah, it's working great. Yeah, like, that woman we talked about last week where she's like, Trump is an autocrat trying to take over and Putin's helping him. It's like, dude, you're crazy. Go watch a movie or something. Yeah, that's crazy. Like, how about Donald Trump is a, you know, kind of a pompous— Flawed president.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Yeah. Getting stuff done. Yeah, yeah, stuff done yeah yeah yeah yeah i uh seth mcfarland tweeted something about voting for biden and i was just thinking to myself like there's no way he really means this seth is smart he's a smart guy he's got 14 million followers does he like it's just a game to him he's like well you know, you know, Trump is bad. Vote for Biden. I'm like, nobody who's paying attention thinks that Biden is better than Trump. Nobody's paying attention. The people who are wrapped up in bubble world where they're watching fake news certainly
Starting point is 01:36:13 think Trump is like a demon from outer space who are like, you know, the child of a demon and an alien or something trying to eat human beings and destroy the planet. He's an autocrat. Yeah. And, you know, he's responsible for the riots while refusing to do anything. Whatever. I don't think any sane person who watches real news and does research is thinking Biden makes more sense.
Starting point is 01:36:32 The dude just did like his first rally in what, like 100 days or some ridiculous number. And he couldn't speak properly. And it's remarkable. You turn on CNN and they're like, Trump supporters, for some reason, think Biden can't speak. And I'm like, have you watched his rallies? Nobody is suggesting that the entire hour he spoke was him just like teeth falling out. I mean, but he gaffes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:54 All the time. Yeah. That one wasn't a gaffe, dude. When he was like, can you believe in a year? We had, you know, 100 year. It's you. We more deaths in 100 years than a year and i'm like i don't know what you're trying to say dude telling you man nursing home flashbacks yeah
Starting point is 01:37:10 yeah it's really sad man it's too bad well i don't know what to i don't know i don't know what we do other than maybe we do just stay home make money and uh and vote i think you should keep journalisming the journalists i mean commentary watch commentary for the watchmen. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, definitely. The good news we have for everybody right now is we have finally secured the new facility. Yes. Now we just need to get them to lay internet line down because it's in the middle of nowhere. We do need internet, yes.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Yeah. So in order to do a live show, you need good internet. And I don't think it'll be available yet. It might be. It might be, actually. Yeah. So we're going to try it out, but in order to lay down real internet, because it's like, it's like the, what, like 1912 phone line that they're trying,
Starting point is 01:37:53 you know, DSL, I'm kidding by the way. But yeah, it's the old school lines. And if they, if they, I'm glad it has any internet at all. If you want to get, if we, if we want to get the high quality stuff for the show, we've got to lay actual fiber optic lines because it's the middle of nowhere. And that's going to be fun. But it's a massive place. We've got a lot of plans. And that's the good news, which means I'm definitely going to be looking for people to do fact checking. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Because there's a bunch of stories that I've gone through and I'll do a segment and it'll just be tweets. And I'll be like, here's a bunch of tweets from people. They're full of nonsense. Yeah. We need someone to fact check and write it up. And so I'm going to be probably hiring a couple people to handle that at the new place out in the middle of nonsense. Yeah, we need someone to fact check and write it up. And so I'm going to be probably hiring a couple people to handle that at the new place out in the middle of nowhere. So if you want to live in a hippie shack, you know, there
Starting point is 01:38:29 you go. Out in the middle of nowhere. Campground. You get a TV. Anyway, let's do Super Chats. Let's do it. Let's jump to Super Chats, everybody. Thank you all so much for the Super Chats. This is a big show. But don't forget, you can subscribe because we're live every Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. Unfortunately, Kimberly Klasick wasn't able to come.
Starting point is 01:38:46 She was supposed to be our guest today. But we have guests coming tomorrow. Yeah. We have Elijah Schaefer tomorrow. Yes, from Slightly Offensive. Cool dude. And we have Drew Hernandez with Lives Matter. On Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Yeah. Sweet. And then on Friday we have Michael Malice. I'm excited. Yeah. They're all really cool people. I'm excited for this week. But also make sure to follow me
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Starting point is 01:39:14 Look, I put the names back up. Oh, you put the names back up. There we are. On Twitter and Parler. But we're going to read you some super chats. We got one here from Jim Farm. Luke 628.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Blessed those who curse, you pray for those who mistreat you. With that in mind, here from Jim Farm. Luke 628. Blessed those who curse. You pray for those who mistreat you. With that in mind, here is a prayer. May the Lord Jesus Christ bless those in Antifa, and may he lead them out of Antifa into the truth. I have tremendous respect for that. That's good compassion. And I want to make sure I stress,
Starting point is 01:39:38 I am upset by any violence and death. Okay, I don't like to see it. A lot of people, you know, when I saw that video of the dude in Portland getting gunned down and you see his friend being held back screaming, dude, that made me cry a little bit as gut wrenching. It's awful.
Starting point is 01:39:52 I'll tell you what, I don't like these Antifa riders or whatever, but when I heard the story about the girlfriend screaming for him, her boyfriend who got shot in the heart, I felt the same way. I don't, I don't, I don't want anybody to experience that pain.
Starting point is 01:40:02 I don't care if they're bad people. I just keep saying, I'm sad that we're here. It doesn't matter who's dying in the street. I don't want anybody to experience that pain. I don't care if they're bad people. I just keep saying I'm sad that we're here. It doesn't matter who's dying in the street. I don't care. It sucks. You know, they're going to say bad things about the dude who got shot. They say it was self-defense and all that stuff. And I'm just like, all right, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:40:17 I get it. There's a divide here. But I'll tell you what, watching people get gunned down in the street is not a good thing. And that's why i'm like man the i pray that the patriot prayer guys do not go out for retaliation but i could i can i can get that feeling watching that video of your friend or being that dude who watched him just get gunned down in the street law enforcement needs to handle this trump said it the friend of the victim who was there said the same thing yeah and that's how you win you let the law enforcement handle this yeah that's
Starting point is 01:40:45 the way you do it i mean you need to do their work yeah man but uh i i appreciate the uh super chat i hope the same thing i hope they find their way out and um you know can break free jay bosca says tim chacho first uh until sued for every virtual scent twinkler and fascist book need equal red and rainbow checks and thumbs up second wtf lock six percent of actual woohoo virus deaths so uh i want to make sure i can get this one very very uh clear also hit the like button if you haven't yet so the cdc updated their the numbers they said six percent of the deaths were were only covet 19 yes and 94 of the the deaths were only COVID-19. Yes. And 94% of the COVID deaths were with comorbidities. There's two contextual analyses coming out of this. Right. On the right, it's that the deaths that people died from something and they also had COVID, whereas the left is saying people died from
Starting point is 01:41:39 COVID and they also had these things. Get it? Kind of. So basically, the argument is, what did someone truly die from? Right. 6% truly died from COVID according to what was written down. And absolutely nothing else. But that's not the point. The point is, the right is saying 94% of people died from something else and they had COVID. The left is saying 94% died from COVID and they had something else. Get it? Yeah. Okay. The problem is only one contextual analysis is allowed. Right. Why is that?
Starting point is 01:42:11 Because of bias. And there should be because if we want to have conversations about how to properly reopen and save our society, then we need a proper debate. And instead of banning people who say potentially the wrong thing, you need to have them engage in the conversation and then correct it. That's just what it said. They ban them. OK, this kind of bothers me because I did work at a hospital.
Starting point is 01:42:31 A comorbidity is something that most people might not be familiar with. A comorbidity is just some disease that you have along with something else. I think what people are not understanding is that most Americans, given the standard American diet and also the age of the people who are infected with coronavirus, COVID-19, whatever, tend to have comorbidities. That means that those things get recorded on the cause of death. But that would mean that the people did die of COVID. Right. It's a factor. Yes. So I guess the idea is people are saying only six percent actually died from covid the rest didn't that's wrong that is not correct right right right that's an influencing factor yeah
Starting point is 01:43:09 and not something that should be discounted like we should have nuance and i was gonna i wanted to shout out this doctor i was following but i don't i forget his tag but or his um well now you can't shut him out i can't shut up i missed my chance the grizzly says gamer gate started when a female game dev slept with a bunch of reviewers in order to get good reviews. She then abused her boyfriend as well to make sure she got good reviews, and now she works at DC Comics. Game journos are despicable human beings. I'm sorry, The Grizzly.
Starting point is 01:43:37 You're wrong. Journalists are just... Okay, I'm not going to... They're going to get so mad at me. I'm going to get all these hippies. I remember a tech journalist telling me that tech journalism was the bottom rung of journalist society because they get free products and write about them. So I'll tell you this.
Starting point is 01:43:53 I was told this by a tech journalist. He said, company says we got a brand new smartphone coming out. We're going to give it to you. Write a review on it. Guess what happens? You're going to say real good things about it. No, no, no. Guess what happens if you write a bad review about it?
Starting point is 01:44:05 They stop calling you up. Yeah. So of course they're going to be like, it's the best phone ever. Unless it's really bad. But if it's a fine phone, like it's a great phone, it feels great. And they get the next one. And they keep getting sent free phones months in advance. And they show off to all their friends.
Starting point is 01:44:18 Look, I got the new super phone or whatever. That seems almost corrupt. Literally is corrupt. Yeah. But that's why this journalist guy was telling me that. He was a tech journalist. And he was like. He's like, it's disgusting. Literally is corrupt. Yeah. But that's why this journalist guy was telling me that. He was a tech journalist. And he was like, this is disgusting. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:28 He's like, and he was very strict about his ethics policies. It was actually impressive. Good. And he was ragging on journalism. For sure. Yeah. I think now he's a Trump supporter too, for real. How funny.
Starting point is 01:44:37 You gotta look him up, man. I talked to him. Zach Jordan says, I'm a 26-year-old Army veteran. I have not voted for anyone since turning 18. What has happened in this country over the course of this year, you reporting on it and encouraging people to look many places for info has made me aware I will be this year. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:44:52 There's a story out of the Military Times, I think, saying that the military is going to be voting for Biden. I don't believe it. I don't believe it either. I do not believe it. You got Donald Trump coming out being like, the Trumps are the best. We want to support the Trumps.
Starting point is 01:45:03 We want to give the Trumps. We want to support the troops. Give them a raise. Joe Biden doesn't say anything. He hides in the basement. Having been raised in a military town, I'm just going to say there's no freaking way. There's no way. They're the most patriotic people.
Starting point is 01:45:14 This is the reason why the town I grew up in was conservative. It's because of the military. There's no way. Seth Tompkins says Andy Ngo just tweeted that both county sheriffs named by Oregon's governor in her plan have said no to helping her. LOL. Love the show. Spin the UFO.
Starting point is 01:45:27 I'm going to have to look. Wow. Is that that's true? I will look it up. Man. After I do this. Oregon. First things first.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Bernard Fraunepel says big fan of the show. Tim, you report 30 plus people have died since the Floyd riots. Is there a good source for this to share with friends who don't recognize the destruction? Thanks and keep it the great riots. Is there a good source for this to share with friends who don't recognize the destruction? Thanks and keep it the great work. I just referenced the Wikipedia page for the George Floyd protests, which mentioned 14,000 arrests and 30 dead. You'd think 14,000 arrests would constitute the article to be called George Floyd riots, but sure. But it does have a list of all of the deaths. So yeah. Adam Schmidt, thank you for the super chat. Hassim Retna says, as always, keep up the great work. Message Cernovich on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Not sure he will reply. Your opinion. Could the news networks be sued for inciting a riot due to false reporting endangering the public trust? Or does Section 230 prevent that? Well, Section 230 doesn't have anything to do with TV. It's Internet based. But no, they're entitled to their opinions. It's a First Amendment thing. They can say stupid things. If they tell you to do something, then, you know, if they tell people like, hey, go do this. A.H. Glassman says illusory truth effect. A 70s psych study that concluded consistent repetition of false info as the truth will teach the mind to perceive a fallacy as reality. When confronted with the actual truth, subjects were irrational. Makes sense? Yep. Makes absolute sense. All right, let's see here. We'll jump up to the first area chats. And man, it's always happened. There's like cat hair or something in there. Gets me allergies. Jack Scow says, the quarterback of my favorite NFL
Starting point is 01:46:59 team said that the U.S. was founded in racist ideals. I don't want to support such an ignorant view of our history. I get it, man. I don't want to support such an ignorant view of our history. I get it, man. I hear you. Archerable 26 says, me to the media. Show me how to lie. Show me how to lie. You're getting better all the time and turning all against the one is an art that's hard to teach. I remember this song. Dr. Sertaviable says, hey, have followed Ben Swan stuff. He'd be a great guest, by the way. Yeah, he would be. Ben Swan's cool. I haven't followed him in a really long time, but I know the name.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Graf von Tirol says, wow, congrats on being retweeted by Trump himself. I don't know if I was retweeted. It was like a diluted like. No, no. Here's the thing. It was. Yeah. I think the reason Trump liked my tweet and got rid of all other likes is to do more than
Starting point is 01:47:44 retweet it. To put a point on it if trump just retweeted me it would have been gone in an hour down the timeline by getting rid of all of his likes and liking only my thread he made sure that anybody who goes to his page can see a dedicated and so i'm like ain't gonna get me in trouble please stop no i don't care but i do like how no one has mentioned you they don don't. They didn't even mention the thread. Yeah. I'm sorry. They mentioned the thread. They don't actually read it because of course not. Heaven forbid. Why would they read things? Yeah. I think one of the challenges for a lot of the mainstream outlets is they'd have to be like Tim Pool describes himself as a disaffected
Starting point is 01:48:18 liberal who supported Bernie Sanders in 2016 and has now decided to vote for Trump. Yeah. They really don't want to get into that. Yeah, I don't think they do. I don't think they want people to realize it's a thing that exists because it would show people that you're not alone. If you're somebody who's sick and tired of what the Democrats are doing, they don't want people to know that. They want you to think you are alone to sit down, shut up and vote for what we tell you to vote for. Nice.
Starting point is 01:48:38 Yeah. All right, let's see what we got here. Henry Allen says, Tim, blessings. Wisconsin is watching. Thank you. Appreciate it. Ground Floor Gut Tim, blessings. Wisconsin is watching. Thank you. Appreciate it. Ground Floor Guthrie says, that face when you become the news. I got to admit, it was weird when, you know, it was Lydia.
Starting point is 01:48:53 She was like, did Trump like your tweet? And I'm like, oh, I don't know. Like, Don Jr. Trump Jr. retweeted me or something. Yeah. Because, you know, he follows me. And I was like, I don't know, whatever. And I didn't realize the severity of Trump removing all the likes and then just putting mine like read this thread it says and i'm like
Starting point is 01:49:09 oh geez dude that's like kind of freaking out about it when trump jr retweeted it some outlets wrote an article and it was like so poorly framed of course yeah so yeah they were like tim pool who has a right-wing audience dude okay it's really funny because people pay attention know that like my audience is mostly moderate. Yeah. Pretty libertarian. Pretty libertarian. Yeah. We did a poll and found that the biggest self-identified group were libertarian, followed by Trump supporters,
Starting point is 01:49:38 then liberals. And there was even like three or four percent who consider themselves to be progressive leftists. Interesting. Yeah. Really interesting. I mean, I've got messages from people who watch who are very like social justice progressive, who are very polite and nice to me.
Starting point is 01:49:54 You know, the message to me being like, I appreciate listening to what you have to say. I think you're really, really, really wrong. There have been some progressive like basically people like AOC who have messaged me saying they're a big fan. And I'm like, even though I kind of rag on your, like, ideas and everything, like, yeah, but it's not bad. You know what I mean? I find a trend with people who write to you and people who comment on your stuff are people who say,
Starting point is 01:50:18 I don't agree with everything you say, but I like the fact that you entertain different ideas and you actually appear to be looking for the truth. I guess so. I think that everybody can respect that. I think that actually appear to be looking for the truth. I guess so. I think that everybody can respect that. I think that's what I'm doing. But I think I'm biased. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:50:29 You could be. I'm like, Democrats are bad all day. You know, right now they're the baddies. They are pretty bad. And I often self-reflect and I'm like, why are they so bad? And I'm like, I remember we were talking once and I was like, how many videos did do about democrats panicking we keep doing that we were trying to make thumbnails i'm like are they panicking again yeah i'm like i can't do like a fifth panicking video this week can i but the article literally says once again the democrats are panicking i'm like are they lying about this
Starting point is 01:50:58 and then it's like they name a democrat and it was like you know john smith an operative for this organization is saying we're really shocked by this and i'm like i guess they're panicking they've been in a panic since trump won they're so disorganized yeah they've never stopped freaking out they're crumbling seriously dr roller gator says i looked outside my window and didn't see anyone dying of coronavirus so i don't know what the heck biden was talking about this afternoon what did he say something about that no he was talking about like how many people had died like 101 year 100 you know things yeah yeah yeah i didn't yeah so somebody was somebody i know a picture of dc and they're like oh this is scary people are like walking by in the park and i was like oh so is this trump's america or i mean i'm just they're
Starting point is 01:51:40 like dc seems crazy right now it's going to park i'm like trump's america seems pretty good yeah seems great right we're chilling there's a meme it's really funny it's a guy drowning it's it's like biden and then trump's in a helicopter and he's like you know quick accept federal assistance like no go away and then as the helicopter leaves they yell this is trump's america yeah seriously let's see talbot link says i showed my dead and unedited video of the molotov toss as the kid in kenosha after the brightness washed video in the news friday night couldn't see the flames he said the vid i showed was edited because it was longer the guy threw a plastic bag he didn't throw a
Starting point is 01:52:13 molotov okay yeah rosenbaum was chasing after rittenhouse he threw what appears to be a plastic bag rittenhouse was running someone raised their gun into the air and fired a shot into the air rittenhouse turned and then rosenbaum lunged at him and tried grabbing the gun. And that's when Rittenhouse fired. Right. And the legal statement was that he feared they would take the gun and use it on him. Absolutely. Yeah, they may have. For sure. Let's see. Devin H says, Hey, Tim, I've been thinking some about Thucydides trap. The definition refers to international adversaries. However, do you think it could work on a smaller scale, i.e. the regressive left v liberalism? The general idea, maybe. I guess you can frame it this way. Thucydides' trap is that whenever a dominant power is challenged by a rising power, it results in war.
Starting point is 01:52:57 So you have the dominant power, liberalism, being challenged by the rising power, progressivism. Will it lead to war? I don't necessarily think so. It's not the same thing, but maybe. I think the bigger issue is that the progressive left in this country is so divergent from the rest of American society. That's what's going to lead to chaos. Yeah. And they're small but growing. And it is a cult-like ideology.
Starting point is 01:53:20 Well, they are the element of instability. Like, you can look at the center, you can look at the right, and there is not this far-flung ideology, these crazy fanatic people. I got an email from a Democrat asking if I would support them. And I said, like I do, you know, it was from the volunteer from the campaign, does so-and-so support the repeal of Prop 209 in California? And they responded with, you know, we're not based in California, but I assure you we can discuss ways in which the candidate will help fulfill affirmative action goals. And I was like, you just answered the question.
Starting point is 01:53:59 Yeah, wrong answer. You are supporting. So the trick is repealing Prop 209 strips the civil rights language from the california constitution and they call it advancing affirmative action tricky so they'll say well we're not so sure on that but we do want to advance affirmative action i know exactly what they're saying they want discrimination law they want to be able to discriminate they want pro discrimination or they're paying so little attention that they would vote yes on it yeah definitely that's scary all right let's see what we got.
Starting point is 01:54:26 Arthur Wilcox says, Kyle Rittenhouse was videoed beating up a girl. It's making things look different. So the charges he had before stem from that. He got caught speeding after the incident. Interesting. Well, I'm not saying the kid is good. And I think the kid was foolish to be out there. And I think the kid's worthy of criticism.
Starting point is 01:54:41 I also think if you chase after someone and someone fires a gun and they throw something at you but you're not going to convince me that the kid wasn't defending himself just because the earlier day he was a bad person i would say that this is almost on par with the guy who okay so the guy who shot the gentleman in portland the other day people were saying that he was basically a criminal because he had brought a gun to a protest in the past i don't like i don't think that matters just like i don't think it matters that you have a tussle with somebody i don't care who you hit seriously as a 17 year old especially as somebody who's brawling because i saw the video this i don't think it's enough the guy in portland who had gotten arrested
Starting point is 01:55:21 previously with a gun this is a tough one i see a lot of conservatives mentioning that he should have been in jail. And I'm like, yeah, he should have. And if the DA had followed the law, he'd have been in jail or he wouldn't have had the gun and this wouldn't have happened. However, on the grand scale, the 2A argument shall not be infringed. Should be absolute. So I think the way I look at it right now is my preferred view of it, idealistically,
Starting point is 01:55:42 is he's a murderer. Charge him with murder yep and we can always talk about what could have been but here you know right sure you can but i don't like the idea that people are going to say something like if only we took his gun away then he wouldn't have murdered somebody i don't like that line of thought that's the gun control argument yeah that is however i think right now the argument is the law is the law and if he broke the law then what he should have done is after he got arrested for it, filed a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the gun law and then potentially try to
Starting point is 01:56:10 get it overturned. Right. That's the process. So theoretically, if the system was upheld the way it was designed, the way they claim they want it to be, this could have been prevented. Yeah. So that I understand. They are the ones in Portland and the left arguing for gun control.
Starting point is 01:56:24 Right. This was the one time they didn't uphold their own standard and now someone's dead because of it. So I understand there's hypocrisy there. There definitely is. My idealistic version is he's a murderer. Yeah, of course. He's an alleged murderer. Innocent until proven guilty. I believe in the second and fifth amendments. I believe in all the amendments. Yeah, of course. That's pretty great. Well, and if he were committed to murdering someone, if he were really wanting to go after a Trump supporter, it wouldn't have mattered if he'd done it with a machete or a gun or a blunt object.
Starting point is 01:56:49 He would have made it happen. But gun made it easier. Right. If he wanted to do it, he would have done it. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I think guns definitely make it easier. Make it quick.
Starting point is 01:56:58 If he had a blunt object, I don't think anybody would have died. If he had a knife, somebody would have died. Yeah. But because pepper spray is not going to do anything. But I mean, I don't think anybody would have died. If he had a knife, somebody would have died. Yeah. But because pepper spray is not going to do anything. But I mean, I don't know, man. It's if people want to find a way, they're going to find a way. If they were hunting people down, he would have gone up behind him and hit him over the back of the head. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:57:16 The gun just made it brazen. In fact, there's an advantage that the gun made it loud and obvious. Yes. So there's video of it happening. Yeah. And you can see him running i imagine if it was a quiet stealth attack with a with a knife or something we might not even have known what happened until the next morning we wouldn't have found him at all yeah there'd just be a guy who slumped over i don't know what happened someone ran up to him
Starting point is 01:57:37 and ran off so i don't know pros and cons it's hard to know exactly right lt says tim maybe a theory but what if the entire riot craziness and businesses killing it is actually to drive people out of dem cities to hijack real estate market what if elitists just want to buy that sweet dirt cheap real estate i mean bill de blasio like bill de blasio he said he wanted he said it's exactly what he wanted to do buying it up everybody that's why i saw he's doing on a purpose i think so he wants to create public housing but you know what my preferred conspiracy theory is? I'm not going to frame it in this way.
Starting point is 01:58:08 I'm just going to tell you this. Everything that's happening is benefiting us in the event of a full-scale war with China. I like that conspiracy theory. It's a little bit positive. Not even so much about being a conspiracy theory, but just what has happened has benefited this country if a war to break out. Our cities are decentralizing. People are going to other areas.
Starting point is 01:58:27 Jobs are becoming essential only. People are arming to the teeth. Or people are working from home. Yeah. Another thing I noticed that seems maybe a little bit petty was that now when you go to the store, you don't get the selection you used to. And this might just be because I'm a girl. But you're being honed in you're you're being a little less spoiled yeah you're being conditioned to expect less right people people
Starting point is 01:58:51 would look people would go in there and be like i want strawberry koala yummies bars and vanilla koala yummies yeah and now they don't have them and they go well where are they now it's like there's milk bread and eggs yep if there's a food shortage in a real crisis, also the supply chain being disrupted. Yes. Manufacturing coming back. I talked about this years ago. I was like, man, if China wanted to
Starting point is 01:59:12 and they just cut off manufacturing, we'd be done. Oh, for sure. Over. So before we go to war, all of these things need to have happened. So maybe that's bad news. Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 01:59:22 But all I can say is. It is happening. I mean, maybe it is positive that it is happening i mean maybe it is positive that it's happening maybe it's what we need right now who knows i guess we'll see right well all right let's see where are we at we got one right here dragon warrior says i'm from kenosha man love the show pray for us i hope it doesn't get crazier after tomorrow probably will move soon it's been getting worse four years wow man i think what's what's kenosha it's like a half an hour north of Chicago, right?
Starting point is 01:59:45 Yeah, something like that. It's really close. Yeah, because Milwaukee, I think, is like an hour and a half. I've only ever been to Milwaukee, I think, three times. And I lived in Chicago. And it's kind of weird. You'd imagine, like, you live from Chicago. It's a different state, right?
Starting point is 01:59:56 Yeah, but it's like an hour and a half drive. It's not even that far away. Except, I guess, people in Chicago complain because the people in Milwaukee brew beer and then it flows down all the garbage into Chicago and then we swim in it. That's not nice. Yep. All right, let's see what we got. People in Chicago complain because the people in Milwaukee brew beer and then it flows down all the garbage into Chicago and then we swim in it. That's not nice. Yep. All right.
Starting point is 02:00:07 Let's see what we got. Eric Postachuk says, I really feel like Donald Trump needs to press the fact the law requires that a governor must accept federal approval. It seems like the left is baiting Trump to seem fascist and blaming him when he isn't. Yes. Yes. It's like no matter what he does. It's a trap. Exactly. Exactly. But that's why I think, I don't think he should invoke the Insurrection Act for the most, like, I lean in that direction. It's hard to know what to do for sure. But I see a lot of conservatives
Starting point is 02:00:34 saying, do it, invoke this. And I'm kind of like, the Insurrection Act, in my opinion, should be when a city is completely broken, like in 1991. These cities seem a little broken to me. No, they seem like Portland, for instance, has violence popping up. Well, I guess in terms of COVID, for sure. But in Kenosha, where you have rioting over a few days, it's not the same as the LA riots. It's not the same. So we're really, really close to it. I'm just saying
Starting point is 02:01:05 we're not at that point yet where civil society is broken down and isn't functioning and trump has to restore everything back to where the way we have so many cities right now that are up in arms that's the other problem can trump deploy troops to secure every city and if he can't then should he just wait and do like a triage kind of thing this has kind of been bothering me because i'm like what if we don't have enough national guard what if we don't have enough troops to keep everyone in line i think we do and i trust our military like i i think explicitly but i think it's very easy to crush these extreme like the crush these riots and arrest the extremists the problem is the da in portland is letting them go that is what it comes down to it doesn't matter if you arrest them
Starting point is 02:01:43 if nothing happens if they just get released right exactly so so we don't we don't need as many police but that's i think for for the most part trump should hold back a little bit and the insurrection act should be for a point when the city is in absolute chaos 24 7 and nothing is stopping last resort yeah yeah that makes sense and especially now if trump did it they'd just be like oh no we're under being taken over and then they'd secede or whatever dumb thing they were talking about cool well that was the war games and they talked about succeeding the west coast all right let's see where are we at i read that one and i read the one about andy no and uh let's see connor astrin says the philosophy tim and lydia have added to my mind really has helped me. Oh, I'm glad. Happy to hear it. Well, Lydia is a big fan of stoicism.
Starting point is 02:02:27 I am. I'm a nerd. I'm sorry. Long Reach Joan says, thank you. That radicalization analogy is the perfect example to bring the difference between the US and Australia into perspective. Australia socialized medicine versus US privatized medicine. It's yeah, it's really just about what's dramatically different for Americans.
Starting point is 02:02:44 Yeah. And if you want to overhaul the entire system overnight, it's radical. Well, everything looks different to a different country. Like what is radical in Germany is not radical in the U.S. and vice versa. Just what you're used to. What I think is really funny is, well, I think I'll just be reiterating the same point that the left thinks being a normal American is radical. Yeah, that's that's what they're saying.
Starting point is 02:03:08 And Joe Biden adopting any one of Bernie's policies or even negotiating is radicalization trump is moderate he's in the middle yeah that's that's from the new york times and from vox man colin n says honest question at what angle could kyle have shot the dude in the head his first rounds hit him in the groin if he grabbed the barrel how would it have passed his head i don't know my bigger question is how do you get in the back yeah he turned he like got hit and then he spun that's what somebody was commenting i found that tweet you made and they're like maybe he turned i don't know the gym says hey tim relatively new viewer and i dig that you're willing to flex your opinions based on evidence a rare trait these days p.s i'd love to see you talk with Don from Plebeian Media. Cheers.
Starting point is 02:03:47 I'm not familiar, but we'll look into it. Plebeian Media. Robert Stratton says, don't bring logos to a pathos fight. What was that? Pathos is feelings. Logos is logic. Right, right, right. There you go.
Starting point is 02:04:00 Chris Clark says, make a beanie Faraday cage so when everyone has Neuralink, they won't get hacked. That's a great idea. I like it. Megan Stewart says no Biden, no Trump. Choose Unity 2020. Check it out. This is crazy.
Starting point is 02:04:14 Twitter and Facebook, I think. And Facebook. I believe it was Facebook as well. Banned the articles of Unity. Yeah. Like why? Who are they afraid of? That's so weird.
Starting point is 02:04:23 Unity. Yeah. Scary. This is creepy so uh it's it's brett weinstein's project right yeah the the the unity unity 2020 is to find two people that the left and the right agree on and have them run together and then switch vice president president every every term or whatever until america gets back on track i think it's a clever idea i just think it's idealistic and not realistic. But I like, you know, I like the idea. It's just, but to me, it's just a third party run.
Starting point is 02:04:49 That's all it is. Yeah. Like you could say Joe Jorgensen is the real option. You could say, you know, the Green Party is the option. You could say unity is the option. My bigger fear is that the Democrats are allowing identitarianism to take over in this country. And that is a direct threat to my family. That's a more immediate threat. Yeah. And Trump isn't that bad. I don't know what, you know, when people talk about voting third party,
Starting point is 02:05:14 I'm like Trump isn't at all like the past Republicans. I think there's a time to be idealistic and there's a time to be pragmatic. Yeah. I've never been a big fan of that. Like, you know, oh, no, we have to stop, you know, the Democrats. I really hate it. Like, I've grown up with this idea of voting against someone. Trump is the lesser of two evils, blah.
Starting point is 02:05:35 But this year, I kind of feel like we do have to stop the Democrats. This is the first time I've ever felt like this. I voted third party in 2016. But there's there were people who are screaming that, you know, Obama was the end. And South Park made an episode about it where everyone's like, and I'm like, so I do see the rise of intersectionality as overtaking over time, and it needs to be stopped. And we need to have a big cultural push against it. And I've seen, you know, professors and historians say there's never been a time like this in history. Yes. But Trump isn't that bad yes so i i
Starting point is 02:06:06 look at him no new wars i'm like wow the first president like four or five presidents yeah they all right i know i'm like uh-huh how how dare you and his his rhetorics he's cleaned up his act for sure and he's his his agenda is it's a it's agree. It is not radical. Right. And so in that case, I'm like, I don't know. I don't think Trump's that bad. I don't feel like I'd be voting for the lesser of two evils. I feel like I'd be voting for someone who's not my first, second, third, fourth, fifth choice or whatever. But someone who I can be like, whatever, you know, he's all right.
Starting point is 02:06:39 The media lies about him endlessly. He's clearly not a Republican. That's for sure. The media doesn't like him. That's almost good enough for me. I think the media does about him endlessly. He's clearly not a Republican. That's for sure. The media doesn't like him. That's almost good enough for me. I think the media does like him. I think they need him. And I think they know it.
Starting point is 02:06:50 Yep. They like his like TV attitude. They wouldn't exist if he wasn't president. It's true. Their ratings were gone. See Ryan Long. Yeah. He was a last resort to save them.
Starting point is 02:07:00 Yasha says, hey, hey, Timmy, have you seen what is happening in Belarus? Yes, it's crazy. So I don't know a whole lot about it, but I've been following just a few people who are posting about it. And it is it's scary. I think about what's going on in Hong Kong and Belarus in terms of the uprising. And we view them from the American standpoint as like good to oppose the dictators. But the left thinks that's who they are here.
Starting point is 02:07:23 And I'm like, you're you're you attacked an old lady, dude dude like you're not you're not the freedom fighter opposing the dictator i'm sorry that's just not true trump was elected deal with it you can vote him out if they didn't act like lunatics they would have voted him out if they were just like well you know we lost this one good game guys we're gonna focus on doing better next time and we're gonna find a more likable candidate they could have been rational about it they would have won all they had to do as ben jupiter loves say, was not be crazy. They couldn't do it. They couldn't even do that.
Starting point is 02:07:49 They couldn't do that. It's a rebuild year. Yeah, they're taking a year off. Or four years. Taking a term off. They got to figure out their leadership. Taking a term off. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:07:56 Well, hey, anybody. Well, hey, let me read one more super chat. Okay. Megan Stewart says, if it doesn't work, I'm totally voting for Trump. The ticket is Dan and Tulsi. I like that. I like i like that ticket i do but i don't think the left will they hate tulsi and they really hate dan like so dan crintra yeah oh yeah dude they the left really hates tulsi gabbard the resistance left calls for a russian and the the progressive left
Starting point is 02:08:21 calls her alt-right there's just like moderate people like me who liked her because we recognized her as someone who's trying to build a bridge. She was a more progressive lefty. And I was like, I like a bit of her platform, but she's got military experience. I like Dan Crenshaw for the same reason. So I like the idea of a Dan Tulsi ticket. But the left is not going to go for it. I know.
Starting point is 02:08:41 They won't go for it. And the right won't either. It would be really funny if Tulsi was president and Dan was vice president. And she was like, we're pulling the troops out. And Dan's like, that's a bad idea. Yeah. But I feel like they can talk it out. I feel like I feel like a presidency like that would be fantastic.
Starting point is 02:08:55 I love the idea. They would engage with each other and come to the right conclusion somewhere in the middle. They would have to. I'll keep my eye on it, but I just see it as another third party run. That's not. I know. I don't like I don't I don't see you getting critical mass for this because people like trump yeah and you're not and so the problem i see here is that the only thing a dan tulsi
Starting point is 02:09:13 ticket will do is stop trump from winning yeah for real that's the problem that's the problem with third party candidates unfortunately i don't like the way it is but brett chapel says uh brent chapel says love the show like how you you are having guests on more often now. Would you ever consider having people like Ben Shapiro, John MacArthur, or Dave Rubin on Stay Safe and Awesome? Well, of course. I don't know. Who's John MacArthur?
Starting point is 02:09:32 John MacArthur is a pastor. I don't know who that is. He's a preacher? Yeah, he's like... I know. He leads a church. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just not familiar with him.
Starting point is 02:09:39 Yeah. Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin, I know, and of course. And I actually... I would love to have some regular people on. Yeah, you keep saying this, and I get regular people hitting me up and I'm like ah too many oh yeah yeah but we definitely it's really hard if you like it's gonna be we're gonna have to vet people yeah we're gonna narrow it down we gotta figure out like what they do and we have conversations with them yeah but it'll be interesting to get someone into the spotlight
Starting point is 02:09:59 who normally doesn't have the opportunity to say hey I'm a plumber from you know Ohio and I just have some kids and they're going to college. Or like a mechanic or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be great. Yeah, that'd be really cool. Scott S. says, someone, and I've seen some leftists,
Starting point is 02:10:14 bring up Kyle fighting a girl and how that puts him in a bad light, but they seem to refuse to talk about Jake Blake's priors or George Floyd's priors. Exactly. I don't care about either. I don't care about prior care about right i don't care about uh george floyd has a history i care about whether they stepped on george floyd's neck until he expired that's nonsense i care about whether jacob blake was being arrested for a warrant and pulled a knife and was fighting with
Starting point is 02:10:40 cops exactly i care about the situation they were in at the time yeah i care about kyle defending himself it's fair to say that uh past instances can you know alter it to a certain degree but but you still are you're right you're innocent until proven guilty jacob blake was too yeah all right let's see stankley boas says hey tim oh i see stanky balls says uh oh stankley hey tim just to lighten up everyone, I feel like we should all have a laugh at things, like when I'm watching TimCast clips and all of a sudden the outro with you looking 20 pounds heavier comes on. Stay strong, folks. That's a good point.
Starting point is 02:11:14 You are losing weight. You gotta do another one. Well, you know, I don't know. I think it's from all the skateboarding. We gotta record when I'm all fat. I'm like... I've been skating very, very often. You'll have good before and after pictures. We'll record a new one. I had to put up a new profile pic because I was like, you know, it got to that point.
Starting point is 02:11:32 I often see people rag on others for having old profile pics. And I was like, I just never thought about it. And I'm like, oh, that is three years old. I'm going to take a new profile pic. And everyone's like, you look so mad, Tim. I'm like, I don't know. What am I supposed to do? Caper2x says, think Viva Frey and Barnes Law as guests.
Starting point is 02:11:50 They think highly of you. I think they're great. I'd love to have them. Yeah, we're working on it. Working on Viva for sure. Fantastic Mr. Knock says, have you seen the video of a man in Baltimore getting bricked by a BLM supporter? I don't know if he was a BLM supporter.
Starting point is 02:12:00 I saw the video, though. It was crazy. But look, these videos happen all the time man t zoning says people on the right hate dan because he wants red flag laws and spying on gun owners yep tulsi has a insane gun control policy not all people on the right know about his taps act red flag law and spying yeah i think i remember him talking about this and yeah everyone melted down well we are about 11 minutes over so i think we're gonna get to get ready for bed because I'm going to wake up early in the morning and get back to work. But thank you all for hanging out.
Starting point is 02:12:28 Thanks for the super chat. Sorry we couldn't get Kimberly Klasik on. She has become a superstar and I don't blame her. I wish her the best. I think she's great. But she had this explosive ad that went viral overnight and then she had to speak at the RNC. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:41 And I'm just like, dude, you got to do your thing because the race is way more important. Yeah, that's way more important. She seems busy, but I'm stoked for her. And we've got Elijah Schaefer tomorrow, right? Yeah. That's going to be cool. He's slightly offensive. You may have seen his stuff.
Starting point is 02:12:53 So he does like a podcast show, and he's done a lot of on-the-ground stuff and like legit reporting from the scene. I've cited a ton of his content reporting on protests and riots. So I look forward to having him. These two dudes over the next two days are both on the ground reporting on all this stuff. And I'm excited to hear what they have to say. So make sure you follow me on Twitter, Instagram and Parler at Timcast.
Starting point is 02:13:13 You can also follow my other channels, YouTube dot com slash Timcast and slash Timcast News. And you can follow at Sour Patch Lids, Sour Patch L-Y-D-S on Twitter and Parler. We'll be back tomorrow at 8 p.m. live. I'll have clips throughout. We'll have clips from this show throughout the day. And of course, I put out an insane amount of content. So my main channels have a ton of content throughout the day as well. I imagine I'm going to wake up in the morning and be like, oh, look, more riots happened.
Starting point is 02:13:38 Let's talk about that again. So I'll be back. Thanks for hanging out, everybody. And we will see you all tomorrow at any point in the day when you watch the content. But we'll be live at 8pm with Elijah Schaefer adios
Starting point is 02:13:47 bye guys

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