Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #128 - Media Smear Of Trump Is Designed To Shift The News Cycle Off The Antifa Killer, Michael Malice Joins

Episode Date: September 5, 2020

Tim and guest Michael Malice (@MichaelMalice on Twitter, @MichaelMaliceOfficial on YouTube) start out discussing current events, specifically Trump's non-existent comments about the troops. The conversation quickly turns to the history of The Atlantic and their involvement in pressuring America into World War I, the threat of China, the recent riots, the education system, Michael's cathedral theory, some history lessons, and, throughout, the ongoing lack of accountability for the media.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This morning, news broke that the guy in Portland who was accused of killing the Trump supporter was caught. I should say that they were trying to catch him. They found out where he was. A warrant had been issued. And when they went to stop him, they say, according to a statement from Bill Barr, he pulled a gun or he went for a gun and then he got shot and killed. Now, activists and far leftists are saying something totally different.

They said that he was leaving his home when he started getting shot at or something. I kid you not. They actually have this post going around where they're claiming that he went to his car, they started shooting at him, so he tried fleeing, and then they just finished him off. And they're actually arguing that it was an execution. This is worrying to me, because of course we were going to see the narrative go the other direction. They're now saying the right is defending Kyle Rittenhouse and he was an extremist and their guy was acting in self-defense. I think anyone objectively trying to look at the facts to figure out what's going on

would determine that is not the case. But something different happened later in the day. Well, actually, this was last night, but the story picked up this morning. A new narrative emerged that Donald Trump had called a bunch of World War I soldiers losers and suckers. And it was just cartoonishly bad, in my opinion, like just like a caricature of evil. So then I was thinking about it and I decided, or I came upon this realization that the goal was to shift the narrative off of what was going on with violent riots, the burning of buildings, and they wanted to change the news cycle because Trump was winning

and Joe Biden was desperate. Now, Joe Biden's in front of the cycle and Donald Trump is on the defensive. And this is a big mistake. So we need to have a real conversation about what's going on with corporate media and how they've immediately jumped to attention to give Joe Biden everything he needs. Even Facebook is coming out on the side of the left wing narrative about mail-in voting. So I decided I got to bring in somebody who's got a good, you know, good insight into the media. So joining me today is Michael Malice. And you can tell by the very poorly adorned helicopter hat, he must be a smart fella. Not a dunce cap, is it?

No, you're right. That's true. And what is the point of the hat? You told me I have to bring a beanie. No, no, no, no. I don't mean for you. I appreciate it. I'm just wondering, like, when did they decide to put propellers on hats and why?

It took two of my fans to construct this, and there was next day air involved. Wow. Yeah. The deer readers don't mess around. Man, I love it. You have to wear it over the headphones because it has propellers. Yeah, thanks. Thanks for ruining the bit.

Ruining the bit. Sorry, I forgot. Anyway. Fix it. So we actually have a bunch of stories to talk about. There's a bunch of typical weird intersectional cult stuff, but a lot of media stuff that's really interesting. And as silly as this man is showing us to be.

He appears to be. He appears to be. He's actually got a bunch of interesting stuff you were telling us about like the history of the atlantic so and world war one and stuff we'll jump into it sure if you want to just you know lightly mention something i don't want you to because you mentioned you're going to go off on this huge history lesson yeah there's a lot to unpack behind this story which i'm sure the writers from the atlantic are very aware of even though they would never cop to it publicly really basically you're, you're saying like the Atlantic is a bunch of Nazis?

No, no, but the Atlantic certainly paved the way for Nazism in very many ways. Yes, it's very demonstrable. Wow. And indisputable. All right, well, we'll jump right into it. We got some other stories we might get to.

You know, Joe Biden. What a silly, silly thing. So if you haven't already, smash that like button, and it is your duty to make sure everybody smashes that like button. How about the show? Do it for Michael's hat. Do it for Michael's hat.

Yeah, man. His hat is there to remind you to smash that like button. And hop in the Super Chats because around 930 or so, we'll start taking questions and talking to everybody. We do the show Monday through Friday live at 8 p.m. And let's just talk about this first story. Let's jump right in. Most of you have probably seen this.

So I'll just give you some quick context. The Atlantic. Trump, Americans who died in war are losers and suckers. The president has repeatedly disparaged the intelligence of service members and asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades. Multiple sources tell the Atlantic. Now, for me, I just call complete BS because it's too cartoonishly evil. Like, the writers, whatever the smear is, they and then do a good job of making something plausible. There's no possibility in my mind that a president wouldn't or Trump specifically wouldn't want disabled veterans front and center because they're the best example of look. They lost this how much they sacrifice. Take a picture with me.

I'm the commander in chief. This is an opportunity for them to look great with the populace. So that part, I think, is just absolutely ridiculous. Not only that, but didn't at the RNC, they had a bunch of wounded vets stand? At the State of the Union, he had that North Korean refugee who had his leg run over by a railroad, and he stood

up and held his crutch. That was a very powerful image, and Trump pointed him and applauded. This is cartoonishly evil. Well, as someone who's an actual comic book supervillain, there's been a comic written about me. This is something that I kind of aspire to in a sense. But the Atlantic has been a very malignant organization and outlet for over a century at this point. Really? Oh, yeah.

So a lot of people don't realize the history of the Atlantic. Should I get into it now? Let's do one more paragraph. Yeah, yeah, please. Yeah, yeah a lot of people don't realize the history of the Atlantic. And should I get into it now? Because let's do one more paragraph. Yeah, please. So they're going to say that Trump, in the first paragraph, they say, Trump canceled a visit to the Ayn Marn American Cemetery in Paris. He blamed rain for the last minute decision, saying the helicopter couldn't fly. They're going to say neither claim was true.

Now, I got to point out, Jason Leopold from BuzzFeed has the FOIA request from the Navy. They've got numerous communications saying the ceiling's too low visibility is too low we're not gonna be able to do this and john bolton his memoir also independently described this event and john bolton his memoir was out to at the very least not be flattering to trump and he describes in the the circumstance of this event exactly as president trump later claimed the circumstances were so you have independent like six months ago three months ago corroboration of trump's version of the events when i saw i think i'm sorry to interrupt you but you would think they would mention bolton's right unless unless the intention was to be so

cartoonishly bad right every conservative would be like it's so obviously fake that it's it's you know they're dangling keys in front of a baby and the conservatives ran right to it and the narrative of the violent riots and all the chaos in the streets and the antifa killer is gone yeah there's i there's enormous wing of conservatism which i have very mixed feelings about whose entire modus operandi is freaking out over whatever it is the the liberals are doing today and it does an enormous disservice because you know like you're saying it's a very easy bait and switch like which of these two things are in the grand scheme of things a bigger issue that people are getting killed by service because you know like you're saying it's a very easy bait and switch like which of these two things are in the grand scheme of things a bigger issue that people are getting killed by

the police rightly or wrongly that chaos is descending rightly or wrongly or the president two years ago said a nasty comment said naughty words in the context of this presidency where i mean the number of nasty comments that he said has been innumerable and will be history books one day, hopefully. And this is probably like these are maybe actually not even the worst things he's ever said. Of course. I mean, what they did very cleverly in this is that everyone very vividly remembers in 2015 when he was referring to John McCain. I was on Gutfeld's show that day referring to John McCain's military service.

He's like, I like the ones who didn't get captured. Right. And everyone thought, OK, this is the end of the Trump train because you can't attack the military within a Republican context. And it turns out the Republicans hated John McCain more than they hate making fun of military service. And it cost him absolutely nothing other than perhaps an invite to John McCain's funeral. Right. Right. But because of that, it planted the seed in a lot of

people's minds that trump would call a service member a loser right it's because it's plausible right i mean i i don't i would disagree a little bit i would say some people have heard the story where he called john mccain a loser and said other people who weren't captured if they're not paying attention they hear this and a lot of them are probably like i can't believe he would say wow like i can't believe it in the sense that they believe it you know what i mean like right for me i look at this and i'm like oh come on man everything trump has been campaigning since he got elected he got elected in 2016 and then he kept having rallies non-stop right he's been in full campaign mode and like you mentioned he's had wounded vets at his rallies of course this is cartoonishly, it's ridiculous.

Yeah. But there's one more thing I want to point out and then we could hear about what's up with this and what, you know, the Atlantic. They mentioned that Trump said he didn't understand

why the United States would intervene on the side of the allies and that, you know, he asked, who were the good guys? You know what I find wrong with that is,

who were the good guys? Us? No, no, but see, this is why I think that's something he could have said. If he meant who were the good guys, Germany or England or Italy or Germany, it was not a war of good versus evil. It was a war of like kings versus shahs and versus kaisers. It's like why are we involved here? And it's a question that has never been answered to our satisfaction to this day. So, yeah, that's a very fair question.

This isn't a clear-cut good guys versus bad guys. This is why are we there to begin with? Because of the Atlantic. Because of the Atlantic. Because of the Atlantic, yes. Really? So this whole story goes full circle? Yes.

Let's go. Let's do it. Bring on the history lesson. There's someone named Randolph Bourne. And Randolph Bourne is a very interesting, largely forgotten historical figure. He was the first person who was a journalist who was handicapped, who talked about being handicapped. This is something where handicapped people were invisible before. And he brought that to public attention.

He died in the Spanish flu epidemic of, I think it was 1918 or 1920, because of his disabilities. He was a dwarf and kind of misshapen. His lung capacity wasn't what it could have been. And he invented the term war is the health of the state. And what was happening during the Great War, remember Woodrow Wilson campaigned on, he kept us out of war. The idea that we'd be involved in a war in Europe completely violated the Monroe Doctrine. This had been something that had been the United States policy for 140 years. George Washington, in his farewell address, which was written by Alexander Hamilton, said, avoid foreign entanglements. So we're going to go to save like Serbia against Italy,

against the Austro-Hungarian Empire. It made absolutely no sense on American principles. How do you get Americans to change their minds? Well, we all talk about in school about yellow journalism and William Randolph Hearst, the Spanish-American War, remember the main. What they forget about is they act like somehow that changed. Like there's yellow journalism and then we don't talk about it and now everyone's objective. It's been the same yellow journalism for a hundred years and more. The bloodlust of the establishment, in which I include the corporate press, cannot be overstated. And what happened with the Great War is for the first time, all the lefties became, we need to get involved, we need to be the policemen of the world. William Jennings Bryan, who had been three times previously the Democratic nominee, who was a big left-wing populist,

he's the one who brought strong religion to politics. He was Woodrow Wilson's Secretary of State. He was a pacifist. He resigned over this issue. So the thing is, you cannot, to this day, as president, get people into war unless the press prepares them for it, even if you have a draft. So what happened is all these lefties all of a sudden had huge ideas about, wait a minute, if we get into World War I, that will give us an excuse to micromanage the economy from A to Z. It had been bubbling under since the early 1900s, and now we have an excuse. We can imagine what it would look like if America was like a factory centrally managed from D.C. Randolph Bourne was the only one who said, John Dewey, Walter Lippman, they're all there.

John Dewey, Randolph Bourne was the only one who said, this is crazy. This is not what progressivism is about. We're not about going overseas to fight on behalf of kings. What are you talking about? And they started saying, well, he's a cripple. You shouldn't listen to anything he has to say. He's crippled in body.

He's crippled in mind. It was extremely offensive. Same thing happened later with Helen Keller. Helen Keller was a radical communist. And they said, oh, well, of course she doesn't know what she's talking about. She's mentally disabled. And she's like, I'm not mentally disabled. I'm deaf, dumb, and blind, but my mind is fine.

Like, yeah, okay there. Go in the corner. So this is a pattern with people on the left you're either with us or you're just someone who could be tossed in the garbage um and the atlantic was one of the big oh and he became completely blacklisted so of course once he starts speaking out about getting us into world war one which makes no sense which really destroyed so much lives for what purpose uh he was blacklisted john dewey wouldn't work with him John Dewey was like the big leftist intellectual at the time and they all signed on and sold their souls and that was the big this is why Woodrow

Wilson I think is universally among the correct people regardless the worst present history became among the correct people yeah became the the this is when America became globalist and he he was the second American president to leave America as president. Teddy Roosevelt visited the Panama Canal. He went to Europe. The idea of a president leaving America, you would never think of it before

because the whole point of a president is to stay in your country. Now, every president's getting on jet every other weekend. This was not the role of the president. He's supposed to be here and hold the fort. And I use the term fort advisedly. So the Atlantic has a lot of explaining to do, which they never have had to do for all their pro-war propaganda. And here's where it

gets even more evil. Deborah Lepstadt did an amazing book called Beyond Belief. And the premise of this book was about what the press was covering as Hitler rose to power in Germany. Now, you didn't have the internet, you didn't have cell phones, you didn't have YouTube, anything like that. So they're getting all these reports, and these reports of what Hitler and the Nazis were doing, you don't really have cameras even that much to that extent, seemed crazy and implausible. Oh, maybe people, you know, and they pointed to all the war propaganda from World War I, when they talked about how evil the Kaiser was, this was a world where the Kaiser was the most evil human being on Earth,

and that was later proven to be false. So they're like, listen, we heard this 20 years ago. You guys lied about the Hun and how the Hun's killing people and raping everyone. Oh, and now Hitler's here, and now he's doing these things. Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about. And this is a major impediment

in stopping Hitler's rise to power, and you can lay the blame at agencies like the Atlantic, the New Republic and all these other depraved and malfeasant outlets. This is actually a challenge right now with China. Yes. So with what they're doing with the Uyghur Muslims and all that. Yes. I've actually had people ask me. Yeah, but certainly you don't think war is, you know, is the answer and things like that. Well, not not necessarily but we do have to recognize the things that they're doing the videos we've seen the reports that are coming out of china are horrifying but what do we do and i think a lot of people are now in this kind of

purgatory where yeah we've been lied to too much yes the media's gung-ho go war i think what trump's trump's the last the first president a long time no new wars yeah and so that's one of the things that made me kind of turn on okay when he tried to pull the troops out of afghanistan and and bring our troops back and i've heard opinions from a lot of people but there there is a real challenge in when is war appropriate i would personally say yeah world war ii was something we hitler should have been stopped a long time ago, should have never gotten to that point. I didn't know that about how the fake news essentially impeded, you know. This book, Beyond Belief, is just absolutely mind-boggling. It's just amazing because she very much defends the press in the sense of you can understand why they were so

skeptical because they heard it all 20 years ago. And this is Germany. This is a civilized country. They're going to be acting like they're going to be beating up old people in the street. Okay, come on. Let's have some perspective. And it was true. The corporate press. Yes, the corporate press is the enemy of the people. And that is the moderate position.

You think so? Yes. I mean, they've been at it for over 100 years. And I wrote this piece for The Observer a couple years ago about Obama in the tan suit. And I said it's very useful to have a president like Trump who's regarded as a buffoon because you have a president who's widely respected. You will smile and nod when he sends your kids to war, to die overseas for sometimes no reason. There's an amazing traveling exhibit, which I saw at UT Austin called The Great War, which is about World War I, and I left it crying because you have all these letters from these

kids, 17, 18, hey mom, we're in Brussels, everything's cool, and the plaque is like he died next week. For what? For what? The amount of, you know plastic surgery was invented as a result of World War I? Because of all the disfigurements. Because everyone came back disfigured, like chopped up, because it's the

first time you had human bodies meeting with the industrial revolution that created these machines it was just absolutely horrific what was done to all these kids the amount of bloodlust and that was at e-press field and there's just one more thing there's a very very beautiful very very evil poem which they love in canada called in flanders fields and the point of this poem if you want you could pull it up, it's pretty short, is it's speaking from the voices of the dead. And it's saying, we're lying here where the poppies grow. Are you going to let us die in vain?

Come over and join us. So the idea is like, you're not going to let all these people who died die for no reason. You have to die also, because otherwise our deaths were pointless. It's so sinister when you sit down and think about it. And there was a principle at the time that to be a real man, you know, you had to join and fight for war. And this was a time when all the Ivy Leagues, like these men were the first ones to sign up. And now we look back at it and it's just like this is kind of crazy how it was glorified that it's a great idea you know you to be a real man you got a call to war even if after the fact you're like what was this about you know what who are the who were the

good guys i i don't know if i would believe that trump as a president would be saying things like i agree with you you're right so the story to me comes off as absurd but i do think it's fair to say one thing that we're educated about relentlessly world war ii yes when it comes to world war ii yeah it's forgotten i actually remember when i was in school we we read a little bit about of it but it was pat i read a little bit but it's passed over almost immediately for world war ii and it's almost like world war ii is used in the context of what led to world war ii right like the the germans were upset about the debt and they felt you know they wanted retaliation and things like that but we we're not taught the history of

all it there really is an overemphasis on world war ii for sure yes and i think there's a good reason for it but it's an easy story to tell there really is that is a good that is good versus evil like right or good versus good and evil versus evil because stalin's on our side yeah but we don't we don't they don't teach us necessarily we don't get it hammered into us by our culture about how how bad you know stalin was and we also don't get hammered into like a lot of the government and the press lied and manipulated us into a war which 100 years later we can't explain why we were in which led to the the normalization the idea of totalitarianism

on American shores. And here's the other thing. Woodrow Wilson, there's a concept I call evangelical progressivism. I talk about this in my book, then you write very heavily. And the premise is there's different kinds of leftism. It's not a monolith. And there's this evangelical strain. It's a fundamentalist faith. And Woodrow Wilson came out of that school, which extends very much to this day and the idea of It was something called the social gospel and the social gospel is a very twisted idea And it says you don't take the Christian idea of saving an individual soul You can save an entire nation right a nation has a spirit that has to be redeemed now

If you are going to redeem the spirit of an entire nation That means everything in your life is on the table. The bedroom, the boardroom, on the street, everything is a vehicle for sin and everything is therefore up to discussion. And he talked in literally messianic terms about how it's America's God. He's extremely religious man. America's role to save the world. And when you have that trickle down 100 years later, it's like whenever there's anything going on,

it's our responsibility, even if we really can't do anything about it. And everyone listening to this remembers not that long ago, if we weren't in Syria, all the Kurds would be killed. It was another Holocaust. And no one who said that has had any accountability

for their lies in trying to get Americans to be overseas, dying in a war where it's not very clear who the good guys are again. But we've had strong glimpses. I shouldn't even say glimpse.

We've been smacked in the face with this when the New York Times lied about WMDs in Iraq. Oh, yes, of course. And now there are kids who are preparing. I, preparing. I don't know if what do they say? They're not going to interrupt you. Not just WMDs, that he's about to fire them. It wasn't that he had them. It's that he's about to use them. Iran is about to nuke Israel now for 20 years. We laugh, but this has extremely. Did you. So, you know, going back a little bit to the fact that the Atlantic's goal was to shift the cycle to benefit Trump.

Yeah. One of the questions he got asked, Joe Biden, was, you know, something like, are you concerned that peace agreements in the Middle East with Israel will destabilize Palestinians to, you know, efforts for a two state solution or something? And I'm like, are you literally trying to undermine peace agreements in the Middle East? They are. Absolutely. Of course they are. They're warmongers yes they cannot their bloodlust cannot be overstated and i gotta cut joe biden some slack because he did fight in world war one so you gotta you know it's a little different for him he remembers it when it was just palestine yeah yeah i think you mentioned syria yeah you know we we're still in afghanistan yeah we still have a small

it's not the biggest presence that you know compared to where it was i believe why are we in germany i i mean did we ever leave we never left yeah are we still occupying germany yes i was so i was watching this movie the resistance banker okay and uh i mentioned several times now it's a good movie it's about a uh about this Dutch guy. His name was Van Hall. I forgot. William Van Hall, I think. I'm not sure. But he helped fund the resistance against the Nazis in the Netherlands.

It's an amazing story about how he did this scheme to like – they backed up money for people once the government, which was an exile, came back. They'd pay back people this money. And I totally forgot where I was going with that because I started thinking about this movie and being cool and like fighting against the Nazis. Oh, yeah. Anyway, so I'm watching this and I'm reading Wikipedia about World War Two and stuff. And it's like, what happened at the end of World War Two? The Allies occupied part of Germany. Then the communists, you know, the Soviets occupied East Germany.

And then I was like, oh, OK. And then I read about like, you know, the Berlin Wall fell. And I'm like, when did we leave Germany? Yeah, we didn't. There's a great book called 1946, which is about what happens when World War II ends. And Europe is a complete wasteland and how they rebuilt. And there's one story which no one talks about because it's weird. It doesn't fit the good guy, bad guy thing, which is the Czechs in Czechoslovakia.

They took all the Germans or people of German descent, even people who lived there for 100 years, put a sign on their back that says German and made them walk wait what really yes they walked them to the get the f out of Czechoslovakia and they walked to the border many died along the way it was a trail of tears they were Germans yes all any Germans in Czechoslovakia get the f out wow yeah and a lot of them died and they were like I've never been to Germany I don't care you can you can stay where you want you You can't stay here. Wow. Yeah. But you know what? In one sense, it's like in 40 years, you guys have decimated this continent. Like we have had enough of you people. And you're blaming the Jews for all this too?

You people are just horrible. But that's racist, isn't it? Is German a race? I don't know. Ethnicist? Like those German people didn't do anything. They did not.

No, no. They certainly did not. They're just like regular people. And many of them certainly left Germany because they're like, I don't want to be around this. Wow, man.

That's brutal. Yeah. That's crazy. But everyone will always tell you that Europeans are much more moral than us and we should aspire to be like Europe. Oh, yeah.

Every five minutes you hear this. So it seems like the goal. I wonder if, you know, Trump not starting a new war is part of the reason why they hate him. I think that he's, voice every five minutes you hear this so so it seems like the goal i wonder if if you know trump not starting a new war is part of the reason why they hate him i think that he's it's not it's not only that he's not starting a new war we told you we told you you have to start a new war we told you if you don't do this it's genocide and you're waving your hand no no no that's not how this works what works is we tell you where there's a problem and you as president, as commander in chief, send the troops there and fix the problem. This has been

the deal for over a hundred years. What are you doing, orange man bad? So do you know that story about the chimps in the study with the ladder and the fruit or whatever? No. So it's like they put five chimps in this room and then they put like a step ladder or like a tall ladder, and they put fruit on top. And then any time a chimp would climb the step ladder, they'd spray him with a hose. All of the chimps. All the chimps would get sprayed. And so then eventually when a chimp would try climbing the ladder, the other chimps would grab him and beat him up. Like, you're going to get a screw.

Don't do it. Then they took one chimp out and put in a new chimp. That chimp that never got sprayed with the hose before. But when that chimp climbs up, the other chimps beat him up. up one by one they swap out all the chimps never using the hose culture yeah and then the chimps just kept beating anybody who went near the ladder not knowing what the real ram you know what was the what was the punishment i wonder if that's why there's this war machine it's just the way it's always been the The people who started the process of just nonstop international war and conflict, well, they're dead. They've been a long time.

And so now their grandkids are the ones being like, but we have to go to war. I don't think it's just a question of principle for them. I think it's a question of status. It's a question of wealth. It's a question of power. If I'm the guy who decides who lives and dies and can conquer the fates of entire countries that feels pretty good to me and then you have this more this you know moron in the white house who does he think he is where like this has been the process and now you're coming in and turning

over the apple cart that's not how the rules work buddy go back to new york well so let's let's let's let's expand this into uh you know i mean these people make a lot of money. Oh, definitely. And I think there's also a very sadistic thrill in knowing that you're responsible for sending so many people to their deaths. But if the U.S. wasn't doing it, who would be? There would be someone, you know, the Soviets, they were doing these expeditions in other places.

China's doing it now. I don't think it's a given that there would be this kind of one world power that has its fingers in every pot. I mean, if you look at, let's suppose, Kuwait, right? That was much more of a multinational operation. You had the US, you had Britain, but basically everyone was on the same page on that. It's not implausible that you would have this kind of coalition that would kind of make sure the borders are enforced, because it's useful for the powerful to maintain the status quo. It's like gang warfare.

This is my turf. This is your turf. We shake hands. The problem is when you have actors in bad faith like China, like what happened with Hong Kong. And that is something that all of us as Americans should be far more disturbed about than COVID because they are going to push the envelope until they get pushed back. And why wouldn't they? Well, so if the u.s so so here's the arguments that i've heard right if we leave afghanistan there's two big problems a

humanitarian crisis sure this is what sean parnell was saying and i think it's true he says all these people that helped us or are sympathized they're going to be dead just they're going to go and kill all these people and we can't we what do we do we don't just leave these people to die sure and i'm like that is it that is it that that's a serious challenge although i i think we've kind of created this mess for ourselves we got to find a way out the other issue is china moves in yeah you know now that there's a power vacuum they can come in they can take control of the territory and use it for strategic purposes or you know for resources and then china's already pushing into other parts of the world south america africa there was are you familiar with what they were trying to do with the Nicaraguan Canal?

No. I know they're pulling out of Africa to some extent, but please educate me. So this was several years ago. I believe the project fell through, but we essentially control the Panama Canal, which is very, very powerful. They wanted to just rip through Nicaragua, and that's massive. That's not Panama. Panama is like – It's by design.

They picked it for a reason because it's the shortest one yeah but so they worked all these deals and it would have apparently destroyed like this massive freshwater aquifer and decimated a lot of local population ultimately it fell through but they were moving towards this the ultimate goal being they want to supplant us they want to to they're pushing us out and then the fear i have is yeah man i hate these foreign you know excursions or whatever you want to call them. The U.S. likes to hop around. The Syria thing, there's a lot of – I guess I could call it speculation because I'm not a Middle Eastern policy expert. But like the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, you're familiar with this?

They're trying to build a natural gas pipeline up through Syria, through Turkey, into Europe to essentially – correct me if I'm wrong – offset the Gazprom gas monopoly in Europe. So this leads to war, all these conflicts. So I'm not a fan of us being like, we should get cheaper gas in Europe and Russia's strangling us on this. So we want Syria to bend the knee to us. And then Syria says no. And then, oh, lucky for us, there's an uprising and the US is on the side of the people who oppose this. All that being said, what do we do if china is gaining territory and moving around and doing the things they're doing they're quite quite literally running concentration camps yeah i mean listen i wrote the book on north korea so i am not at all a fan of the chinese government and the north korean government this is something that's you know my

wheelhouse and i've been you know warning about this for many years and thankfully the audiences have been extremely receptive to hearing this story. Honestly, what I would say, if the corporate press wasn't as depraved as it is, it would be very easy, or moderately easy, to get us to side with Russia against China. It would. There's been a

very long history, decades long, of rivalry between Russia and China, between Mao and all the Russian leaders. It would be very, if all the russian leaders uh it would be very if we were combined against them it would be pretty much unstoppable but because the corporate press has made putin for no reason that's ever been explained to be the worst dictator on earth uh this has now become radioactive and if trump made moves to strengthen his relationship with russia which would benefit a lot of people if If Russia and the U.S. were teamed up

in the Middle East, that would solve a lot of problems because we could, between us, could sit a lot of these countries down. The more moderate ones would be like, look, we're locking you guys in a room. Figure it out. And they bang on the door until they're let out. But it happened with the UAE. You invite them to the rec center.

And then once they all come in, they realize both sides are there, but then you lock the door exactly yeah yeah uh i think i know why russia is the bad guy why because the u.s is cutting deals with china and not the u.s but these politicians oh yeah for decades now our manufacturing has been extracted and we can thank nixon for this what did nixon do i mean nixon went to China and normalized relations. He raised the glass to Chairman Mao in a toast that was written by Pat Buchanan. Geez, really? Yes, yes. And the thing is, what people don't appreciate, this is what I hate binary thinkers in politics.

You know, they think if I want right-wing ideas, I'm going to vote right-wing. And if I want left-wing ideas, I vote left-wing. Bill Clinton gave a ban on gay marriage and a balanced budget. A lot of times, because there's no one to a person's left to criticize them, they're in a position to implement right-wing ideas and vice versa. Richard Nixon, who cut his teeth running against Helen Douglas, I think was her name, was for the Senate and called her a commie, which in some ways she probably was. No one's going to say Richard Nixon's too pro-communist. So that gave him cover as president to go to china i mean mao is the biggest butcher in history without question yeah and raise a glass and like oh we're friends now and who's gonna say he's not

hard enough on communism so it's this is something that a lot of times politics is very counterintuitive but there's a very big incentive for both political parties to make it seem like it's this is left this is right if you want right vote right if you want left vote left and that's not how it ends up look at the spending this year there's been no voices saying oh for sure what if it's just maybe 10 less no one well trump has really broken the left and the right of whatever it's supposed to be oh yeah it used to you know you know i think that the way i view politics right now and one of the reasons why aside from the riots and the chaos i'm like you know what man i'm voting for trump but there's a lot of reasons number one is the cult of intersectionality identitarianism on the left is like nightmarishly expansive it's just getting worse and it's now

ism it's it yeah there are struggle sessions there's a literal struggle session my my my fear is they want to rewind the clock on civil rights like i'm not even kidding they were appealing 209 in prop 209 in california which is their their public civil rights law they're like we're getting rid of this one and that that's crazy to me but what one of the big deals uh particularly is is you know trump trying to remove our troops yeah uh he tried doing it in syria it's not worked out too well i remember when he fired those tomahawks at syria the 59 tomahawk missiles and i was laughing like yeah of course here we go again that's what presidents do's a big game. And then all of a sudden the media was like, oh, is Trump being presidential now? Of course. We remember this very well as the first time he was being

presidential is when he's bombing the country. It's so, but once you know that that's what they believe, it's very disturbing because you see it all the time. So Trump is not a Republican. He's not a Republican the way I remember Republicans growing up. Sure. These Christian moral Mitt Romney types. So I view Trump as – he's kind of like to me – But I got to interrupt you, Tim. That's a myth. The only Christian Mitt Romney type was Jimmy Carter, who was a Democrat. Reagan was divorced.

George H.W. Bush was – Oh, no, no, no. Right. But the thing is that's the image but none of them were really there i don't necessarily mean i'm giving a caricature okay sure obviously i don't think all the republicans were like you know hoity-toity christian uptight i think it was like you know when i was growing up the republicans were very moral authoritarian oh yeah and so now that's kind of drifted away and we're seeing a more like republicans are becoming a bit more libertarian

sure and they're kind of you know less about imposing their morals on other people whereas the left is doing all that now each party is libertarian when they're in the defensive and then when they get in power they become authoritarian because now they're in a position to do what they want well i don't i don't see i don't think trump is whatever that establishment party was i agree and i think they're mad we're seeing all these republicans resign retire you know not not john casick please come back john and now they're all endorsing biden you know what you know you know why i see what it is or the way i see it they both parties were like uh you know that futurama episode you want to trauma of course where the where the jack johnson and john jackson yeah of course yes yeah

i think you're you know he was like what or don't blame me. I voted for Kodos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the future of my joke is I think your tax proposal goes too far. I think your tax proposal doesn't go too far enough. Yeah. Like you don't even know what they're talking about. So I remember I posted this meme a long time ago on Facebook. It got a ton of shares. It's an image of a guy sitting on a couch with his girlfriend and she's got his arm around him. And then his arm is behind the couch holding the hands of a different woman and so i put you know uh

democrats republicans you and you're you're on your party like loving them and they're secretly working together yeah of course the the republican is like the republican establishment and the democratic establishment were in agreement on war and you know yes this this intervention and all of these things and then trump comes in and it's kind of wild and all over the place now he's sort of no new war no new wars trying to pull our troops out it's it's a it's a part of his second term agenda he actually tried to do it and now they're going nuts here's they've been going nuts the whole time for sure here's the other thing if you were wrong by your own admission about the biggest foreign policy decision in the last 30

years which was the iraq war if this is by your own words this the biggest foreign policy decision in the last 30 years, which is the Iraq war. If this is by your own words, this was a mistake. Mistake means like, oh, Tim, I was supposed to pay you back. I forgot the money. Oops, buddy. You know, or something like that, or I'm late. It's not, I'm responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of peoples. Let's even pretend Iraqi lives don't matter, which a lot of times people actually do. And how many soldiers? If that's the case, if your judgment is that flawed you're not in a position to try to be commander-in-chief you would have actual guilt and be like what have i done like you and i both know people who were had their finger in leading up to the iraq war and who look back at that and they're still filled with enormous guilt as well they should be if you

thought of this as a mistake if you had your hand in hand in the Iraq war and you think of it a mistake in the same way you and I and many other people think a mistake, you're not running for president. You're going to therapy because you're like, how can I sleep at night where because of my vote, so many people lost their kid? I don't think they care. Right. They don't care. But what I'm saying is if it really was a mistake, a sane person would be like, oh, my God, what have I done? So what do you think about Trump? I mean this i could go on for hours what do you let's let's be more specific in this context do you think trump is trying to do right by america

i i think in this context trump has been very consistent in being anti-war i think they they're the corporate press and the cathedral always like to portray themselves as sophisticated, right? Oh, you don't understand. You watch your Big Bang Theory and Peoria, blah, blah, blah. We read The New Yorker and we watch – listen to NPR. We're sophisticated. And the arguments for war are often complex, although they're dishonest. And it's like, wait a minute.

This idiot is saying, what's the point of going to war can someone sit him down and explain it because i sure can't yeah you can't because you're a liar because there isn't a reason so the fact that he has this very basic aversion to war the fact that he's like explain to me why we have to be everywhere on earth my friend had this idea and i think this would be brilliant if the commander-in-chief, you know, Halloween, October 15th, says, you know what? These troops should be spending Christmas with their families. I'm pulling them from all over the world. And they can vote, by the way.

And let the press freak out. Like, oh, my God, it's going to stabilize the world. And let all these Americans be like, that is how patriots operate. And this would be an enormous boon for him. And it would drop their mask even further for their malfeasance and depravity. Let them justify why they're in these places. Why are we in Germany? Yeah.

The hell are you talking about? It was so funny when that happened because, you know, Trump talked about getting our troops out of Afghanistan and Germany. And the intercept, I'm like, you know, this is what's crazy to me. Why aren't they more in favor of Trump? Take the win when you can take it. Yeah. If you are adamant about getting our troops back and you're willing to criticize Democrats and Republicans for blocking Trump from doing so, then maybe you shouldn't jump on all of the insane corporate press smears of the president to make money. Do you remember that when we assassinated General Soleimani, that was going to be World War III?

Yeah, I remember that. That was a given. He was there. You know, George Washington. I can't believe he killed this guy. What have we done? They're going to nuke Israel. They're not going to back down.

But then they back down. No one who said that we would have these disastrous consequences has paid any price for their at least- this uh uh confusion let alone lies you know that's that's why russia needs to be the specter if we pull our troops out of germany russia will move in russia's not going to invade germany imagine russian made germany that's ridiculous now russia did invade crimea sure you know we can talk about that but we didn't do anything then right and that was a long time ago. Right. So ultimately, I ask you the question about Trump in kind of the terms of, I don't know how you, would you vote for Trump? I don't believe in voting. No, I'm an anarchist.

No. Okay. Well, I guess, how do I ask you that question then? What do you think of his job? Like, do you think he's done a good job? I think what he's best at is getting them to drop their mask. And I think what he's best at is something I'm very heavily in favor of is eliminating political discourse and having this idea, this boomer con fantasy that everyone's going to sit down and it's going to be Reagan and Tip O'Neill and we're going to just shake our hands and come to a compromise. When the parties work together, America gets screwed. It is very, very useful for them to despise each other in real life.

A lot of times they despise each other for fake, like in wrestling. I'm old enough to remember when people found out that Hacksaw Jim Duggan and the Iron Sheik were in a car together, they got arrested. He's a bad guy. He's a good guy.

This is unconscionable. This changed everything. You mean Kamala isn't really a cannibal from Africa who eats chickens? It blew everyone's mind. And a lot of that is fake. And for the cameras, Lindsey Graham is a great example. He was losing his mind by Kavanaugh.

Where have been the Julie Swetnick summons? Where have been the accountability people who lied, called him a gang rapist? I don't like any of these people. Right, exactly. So they put on a good show and whatever. But he is I think showing a lot of people that there's large segments of the left who want you dead but will settle for your submission and it's become the fact that you would have let's go back to the atlantic if i were as an entity responsible for getting us into the great war and felt some remorse about this century-old mistake,

nowadays they'd be like, you know what? This is our background. I'm going to err on the side of caution and err on the side of non-interventionism because I got a lot of explaining to do and a lot of making effort, but they don't because they are proud of their depravity. Well, I think they're proud of World War II.

Oh, sure, but that wasn't the Atlantic. World War I was largely... No, I mean, you get an example... But they couldn't get proud of World War II. Oh, sure. But that wasn't the Atlantic. World War I was largely – No, I mean you get an example. But they couldn't get us into World War II. It took the Japanese. Right. But I think after World War II, they can justify. You see, here's what happens.

Oh, yeah. And there's a legitimate question about how do we deal with China. I mean look – I have no good answers. I don't think there are any good answers on the table. They're not a paper tiger. They're enormously powerful. They're incredibly vind the table. They're not a paper tiger. They're enormously powerful. They're incredibly vindictive.

They do not value human life. And when you have a billion people, you don't value human life. That's things that are very, very tricky very quickly. I hear a lot of people say that China is a paper tiger. And I'm like, as far as I'm concerned, they're relevant because they have economic power. They can buy the rock lobster or whatever. They've got a huge military. And the thing is, they're also in a position to do – they've got nukes.

I mean, a paper tiger or not, and these people are very – it's very important for them not to lose face in the public eye. So these are very dangerous stakes. This is a good opportunity to segue into the riots and stuff. One of the things I've pointed out – we were talking a little bit about this before the show. There's a lot of things that have happened because of COVID and the riots that have benefited us if it comes to war. Notably that our cities are decentralized. Our economy is becoming remote workers, making it very hard to destabilize. And people are armed to the teeth. We've gotten rid of non-essential jobs. And a lot of the jobs that are coming back first are the ones that are, for the most more essential than others and some jobs have permanently closed that weren't as

essential which means a lot of people are now going to be seeking out work that will be more in line with essential activities these things together that's going to help us out a lot if it comes to war and there's been uh there's something i often refer to called thucydides trap this has just been referenced in the media over and over again. Have you familiar with it? Is that the one with the boat? Thucydides' Trap? No.

I don't know the exact reference of why it is named this, but the general idea is when a rising economic power approaches the dominant power, war breaks out. Okay. And it's like I think the Atlantic did a story saying out of the past 500 years, there have been 16 moments and 12 of them resulted in war. So one of the arguments I hear from the people who are pro like the Trans-Pacific Partnership, you're familiar with these people,

the trade deals, was that it would prevent war from breaking out by creating strong economic ties between the two countries. Send all our factories over to China. We can't go to war with them. They'll rise and become

the dominant superpower, but who cares? We're all rich. Oh,'ll rise and become the dominant superpower. But who cares? We're all rich. Oh, that's a very disturbing. I mean, who cares? That's one of the arguments. Who cares if the Chinese? Oh, my God.

That's horrifying. The idea was. I mean, I'm going to get all Christian, but what value is the price of money if it costs of your soul? I mean, that's what scares me. That's a depraved nation. Well, so state, the government. Right, right. But the people, there are people who genuinely argue war is bad we don't want death and if we have these trade lines between the

u.s and china it will disincentivize war because people would lose money because we still get death because when you have a totalitarian regime the oppression i know a lot of people are killed it's my god and if they take over yes so so bernie and Bernie and Trump oppose TPP. Now, Bernie, he sold out to the DNC as soon as he could. Of course. You know, he doesn't say millionaires anymore. Is that right? Right. It's just billionaires.

You say millionaires and billionaires. Now it's just billionaires because he's a millionaire. Yeah. I'm assuming that's the reason. But he's totally in line. Endorse them every step of the way. But Trump is very much, he shut it down. He shut down NAFTA.

And it seems like whether Trump has the ability to do so or not, whether he's sporadic or not, he does want to help this country. There's also an example in American Shores, which is Alexander Hamilton's brilliant idea was to have a national bank and nationalize the debt because he said this would be a great blessing because when you have the debt of 13 states interwound, you can't unwind it. So it's going to be a country, whereas if you had 13 states, 13 currencies, it's very easy to separate apart. To the point where Jefferson, who was like a huge enemy of this, he's like, this is unconstitutional.

He backed up having the National Bank as president. And what that led to 70 years later was a civil war. This idea that economic entanglements are going to be a guarantee against war, maybe against war, but it's sure not going to be a guarantee against conflict. And we saw it, thankfully, the other peaceful way with Brexit, where they voted for Brexit, but then implementing it took two years because no one could negotiate terms of divorce successfully. Oh, yeah. I mean, it was I think it was more than that.

It was a more. Yeah. It's extended period of time. Yeah. It felt like a betrayal from the politicians from Parliament. Theresa May is just like, I'm really happy that she's going to go down in history as one of the worst politicians in history. So you know what happened, what is it, December 13th, 2019 in the UK? No.

Insane landslide victory. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yes. You think that's coming here? No. You don't think so? No, I don't think so. Like the House flipping, Republican, Senate going – No, I don't think so. Like the House flipping Republican, Senate going, you know.

No, I don't. I mean, it's very different with the parliament because basically the parliament is the equivalent of our House of Representatives. Right. And you had Jeremy Corbyn, which people don't appreciate to what extent Jeremy Corbyn is a despicable evil person who validated enormous anti-Semitism and radicalism. He was like a Stalinist. Right. Yeah. Joe Biden. It's very hard to hate him in terms of politics. He's not a bad person. consolidated enormous anti-semitism and radicalism he was like a stalinist right yeah joe biden it's

very hard to hate him uh in terms of politics he's not a bad person he might be an idiot or an ass or many things it's very hard to make the case this guy is a radical my favorite joe biden is angry old man joe biden there was a um look fat joe biden no an activist an activist got in his face and said you need open borders. Biden turned his back on him and said, go vote for Trump. Go vote for Trump. Like stuff like that. I mean, he's much more old school.

I mean, the guy's been in the Senate since Nixon. So he put a lot of black people in jail. The crime bill. Yeah, he got Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court to some extent. I mean, he didn't fight it or whatever his role was in that. So he has a wreck. I mean, he's talking the nonsensical talk now. Just yesterday, he was claiming that a black person invented the light bulb.

Is that what he said? Yes. This is pure out of this kind of revisionist history where, you know, population is the most oppressed in history but also the greatest inventor simultaneously somehow. But this has been common parlance with this kind of howard zinn uh far lefty and joe biden just you know being a good politician

and talking the talk but it's going to be very hard to compare him to jeremy corbyn because jeremy corbyn i don't think we have any american analog in terms of how what a nasty person he is and how uncharismatic and how radical his ideas were i I have a bold, I don't want to call it a prediction, but I just, you know, I have ideas sometimes. Okay. And I imagine a future. I like to look at everything that's going on, the variables, and then try and think as far ahead as possible. The issue with predicting too far ahead is that the more variables you throw into the

mix, the more, you know, the greater number of futures you can perceive. Sure, of course. But I envision there's a possible future in which Donald Trump wins. There is some semblance of unity among individuals in rejection of this far left insanity. Regular people are scared. They can't speak up their own opinions. That was the Cato Institute. Most people do not hold these views. It's somewhere between between eight and ten percent according to a lot of these polls

these these far progressive views and people hate cancel culture so there's a lot of people who are secretly not speaking up i envision a future where we actually come together uh in a sense trump wins shocking the nation and you know ultimately we do end up in a war with china and all of these things that have happened from the riots end up becoming an afterthought. We've got decentralized. We've decentralized our economy, remote workers working in the mountains off of, you know. Where would the war take place? That's a good question. Pacific International, the South China Sea. Like Guam? Like we're just fighting on Guam?

Potentially. Well, the South China Sea, the at atolls a lot of the conflict would happen here there but i imagine that depending on who gets dragged into it and what to what degree this this erupts i first and foremost i would say this is wild speculation sure looking far into the future but most of the conflict we've seen so far has been between in the south china sea with china you know they, they've been accused of sinking Vietnamese fishing boats. You know they've been doing beaching drills. No, I'm not familiar with this. Yeah, so like landing boats on the beach and running in. And a lot of people think it's because they want to invade Taiwan.

They want to seize control. And that could be a catalyst for whatever this Thucydides War would end up becoming between the U.S. But we have all of these inadvertent things that have happened because of the riots that actually would help us out if we went to war. Here's, I think, I don't know that I have anything of interest to add to what you're saying. I don't think that's remotely an impossibility. My big question I'm wondering is who is more likely to have the riots end when they if they win the election? You can easily make the argument why it would be Trump, because now he's in a position to send in the tanks he's just got the validation

but you could easily see b biden because now you could say we have an adult in the room now well hold on tanks yes like sentence i'm using that metaphorically but just basically a lot of law and order and i'd have the national guard something actually no no well no he's doing something smarter oh he's being smart now i'm just saying in terms of november like there's two scenarios and you can i can make the case for either would be the one better to stop the riots from happening. Trump, the feds have deputized Oregon State Police.

Did you hear this? No, I've not. Now an arrest from an Oregon State Trooper over these rioters goes to the feds, not to the local DA. Oh, that's so smart. Exactly. Trump nailed it.

Nail, you know, with hammer. While keeping his hands clean. Yep. So a lot of people have been saying Insurrection Act, Insurrection Act. And I'm like, man, I don't know. They'll use it against them. Of course. Oh, he's Hitler. He's an authoritarian. But not just that. Could you imagine the troops coming in and then the local government saying, get out? Yes. We're being occupied. Yeah. So. So the DHS deputizes the feds, deputize the Oregon State Police. It's a local affair. But if the state police, when they arrest them, the feds prosecute.

The problem was the state police retreated out of Portland because every arrest they made, the DA would be like, you're free to go. Charges dropped. So Trump has figured out a way to deal with the riots. Well, there you go. What I thought he did brilliantly was when he called out the mayor of portland and he said you know what call me we'll solve this so easily and you wouldn't even believe it because that tells everyone they're either comfortable with this or unable to stop it right and he's like the offers on the table balls in your court mr mayor i'm respecting your authority and it's a

really the smart laurie lightfoot uh this chic, this genius mayor of Chicago, she said, well, the riots are happening because we don't have gun control. Lady, you haven't had gun control in 2018, 2019, 2017. Now, all of a sudden, it's causing rioting? How is not having gun control causing rioting? It's amazing what straws they'll grasp to try to create some kind of reason for why things are happening because these things shouldn't be happening. How do these people keep being elected? Like why has Chicago been Democrat for 80 years? Well, I think there's a lot of dynamics in cities where people just culturally are going to end up voting for the same thing over and over and just expecting – it's unconscionable.

You're not going to vote for a Republican. And the Republicans aren't going to waste their time because you're still going to have that city council this is why i don't vote well i don't i don't i am going to be voting okay in november though and uh the the surge of intersectionality has freaked me out to the point where i'm like not i'll be completely honest trump trying to withdraw the troops from afghanistan i'm like you know what i'll take what i can get there's two things that are going gonna fight this cult which I think are gonna be very useful one is the more radical solution which I've introduced which is the kind of thing is like you throw out what the left does very well is they throw out the completely crazy version

they settle for like three quarters defund the police you know it's like oh my god it's crazy okay how about you give us a B and C sure which is as long good after the fun the police I think we should nationalize all University endowments, which are the crystallization of privilege. There's nothing more privileged than having a fancy Ivy League degree and use that money for reparations. Have you been following a Will Chamberlain on Twitter? Will Chamberlain got that idea from me. Oh, did he? He stole your idea. He didn't steal it, he credits me. Will Chamberlain is my buddy, head of human events. That's my idea. That's so great.

Seize the endowments. Yeah, seize the endowments. The other thing that can happen in the short term, especially with startups, is when you see someone coming from an Ivy League, you should look at that person with the same stigma as someone who was gay in the 1950s. This person is security risk. You're inviting something in your company that you might not want. But that was wrong. Sure, but now it's right. Well, the SJW stuff. Yeah, but now it's right well the the sjw stuff yeah but now it's right to be discriminatory be like you odds are this person has been trained

to be a member of the social justice warrior militia look what happened to papa johns papa johns was quoting someone disparaging them yes he's saying don't talk like this person who said this that's terrible you're fired he, can you believe that this guy said- KFC was current Sanders. And got away with it? Yes. The press didn't come after him? This is ridiculous.

And he got fired from his own company. You're about the Netflix guy? No, what happened there? He was giving a seminar on words that were offensive that shouldn't be on Netflix. And he got- And so this is hilarious. This story is so amazing. He says a bunch of words.

Someone in the meeting complained to HR. They brought him in and said, what happened? And he explained, I was giving a meeting explaining, these are the words we don't allow on Netflix. words someone in the meeting complained to hr they brought him in and said what happened and he explained i was giving a meeting explaining these are the words we don't allow on netflix and then they were like what were the words he said them and then the hr people complained he said the word in front of us i can't i was telling you not to say it but but yeah but you're acting you're ascribing rationality of fundamental faith so this is what when you're starting up a company and you're looking at these resumes,

you need to start looking at these as examples of something to fear and stigma. And the price, the value that they might add from coming to Lee College, it's going to be decreasing as opposed to cost. You know what, man? I remember when I was a lot younger and when I was like a teenager, I was Catholic for a little bit. Just because I was a little kid. You lost your helicopter hat.

So I went to Catholic school up until fifth grade. Time for the helicopters. And then when I was a teenager, I became very, I don't necessarily want to say atheist. Okay. Kind of agnostic, but very arrogant. Oh, yeah. God, yeah. Like the people on Reddit.

Totally, totally. You're so dumb. You believe in God? The law. Okay. Right. But you know so morally superior yeah superior to people but uh there there was like a concern about this moral authoritarianism coming from the right yeah which is now predominantly on the left and it's the it's it's the exact same thing that's why i think it's funny you said ascribing you know reason to a fundamentalist faith. But these people are taking over to a degree where I remember hearing stories about like what do I do when my family is ultra religious and they won't listen to what I'm saying.

I have the same problem now in the other direction. I have – it's really interesting because the part of my family that isn't white, they love Trump. Not all of them, of course. But there's a lot of like, you know, they're all like, yeah, Trump's great. And the white people in my family, my extended family, by the way, are SJWs. Oh, gosh. They hate you? It's the weird.

I have no idea. I doubt it. I don't think they hate me. But they won't engage. So I've tried like commenting like, hey, here's why I disagree with this weird stuff you're saying. I didn't call them weird, but like – But it's also your out group. It's all psychological because you're from the other side and it's like – Not even.

Like look, I'm talking about like family members that I would go to Christmas with. And all of a sudden, they're posting nightmarish white collectivist ideology. Right. But see, I don't think you're understanding their perspective. And I think it it's imagine if like one of your cousins came and started talking about bdsm and it's like i get that that's what you're in maybe it's shrug for you but i'm saying for some people to be like why are you talking about this this is at the very least creepy and weird and i don't want to hear it normal air quotes people don't think in these terms right so that is what it's like for them for their faith when. Right. So that is what it's like for them, for their faith.

When you're talking about nuance regarding Trump, it's like this is gross and not part of what I believe. It's not even that. It's like, you know, I used to work in nonprofit fundraising. OK. So I was very good working for these big companies at communicating and like sort of opening the doors into people like in the sense of we could have a conversation before they recoil and horde. So I actually did a lot of trainings to teach people, how do you communicate with someone who's not ideologically aligned with you? You need to build rapport with them before anything. So before you go up to them and say, you're crazy

and wrong for believing this stuff, you say something that's more rapport building simply. You have to play on their turf, not yours. Right. You say, you know, so a common technique is, where are you from? Where are you from?

Brooklyn. Brooklyn. I lived in Brooklyn for five years, dude. Man, they got the best Indian food in Bed-Stuy and it was this little hole-in-the-wall place.

I used to live in, like Myrtle and Nostrand. You know Myrtle and Nostrand? This is people who don't live in Brooklyn. That's how they talk. I would be running away immediately.

Sure, sure, sure. I got you. You're exactly right because then it's like it's us versus them. Right, right. So you create a rapport. I try saying things like on their terms. Racism is bad. I'm so glad you're opposed to racism.

Don't you think it's an issue that white people are forming collective groups? And they immediately just, there's no logic. There's no reason. And there's agree with me or get the F off my page. Yes, yes. Yeah. And they immediately just, there's no logic, there's no reason, and there's agree with me or get the F off my page. Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

They've been trained to act this way. Let me tell you something. You're familiar with Daryl Davis. I'm not. Daryl Davis is the black blues musician who de-radicalized over 200 Klansmen. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah.

Amazing dude. His story's incredible. I did an event where he was speaking. They threatened to burn the theater down we do an after event and he decides to go across the street to the antifa protesters and talk to them and they called him a nazi and a white supremacist and refused and he this facebook posting i've never i've never experienced this but fossils encourage people to believe in creationism so the point is for, I talk about this in my book as well, for them, black is a spiritual

state. That's why Bill Clinton is the first black president and Clarence Thomas is not black. You laugh, but it has an internal logic to it. I know, I know. In the same way for Catholics, right, the Eucharist, the wafer, literally becomes Christ's bones, and the wine

literally becomes his blood i think that's the catholics who do that uh literally you are no longer black and literally you are black if you are saved from the sin of racism and once you realize that's how they look at things everything else makes much more sense it's i find it hilarious when i i've like white people attack black people calling racial slurs and these anti-protesters. I don't think it's funny at all. Well, I don't mean funny, haha. I mean funny as in unusual and unnerving. You know what it is?

I've done so much work with North Korea and the former Soviet Union and how these totalitarian ideologies work that when I see even the slightest bit of it, it really makes me recoil. And it's just like this gets very bad very quickly. And I don't find it cute at all. Like I get why you do. I just personally don't. I'm not. But I am on the verge of laughing because you're wearing this hat with the helicopter on it.

Yeah. And you're talking about the Soviet Union, North Koreans, gulag, you know, kind of stuff. The helicopter solved that problem in Chile. That's true. That's what I'm saying. Are you at all concerned this undermines or actually maybe it helps? No, this is very good because it alienates people who can only see things

visually and viscerally and those are not the people I want on my side. I want people who are able to hear ideas and think critically. So this is actually a good filtering device for alienating people I wouldn't want to be able to be engaged with yeah that's a good point the crazy thing about the daryl davis circumstance was that he could walk up to a klansman and they'd be like whoa and he'd be like how's it going they'd be like hi and they'd talk he couldn't do that with these far left the klansman is ignorant right and had been taught a bunch of ideas which is based on not it's very hard

to be racist or homophobic or anti-semitic or any of these other things if you know people from that group right one of the best ways that gay rights got over was what i call like the ambassador program because as more and more gay people came out and you were like blah blah they're coming after kids you're like that's my uncle like i he loves my nephew what do you and that is personal like this happened a lot you know with europe the jews it's like that's my lawyer like or whatever it's like he's maybe i don't you there's you could say certain bad things about him the fact that he's evil i'm not hearing this not even for a second that is so for the clan there's some people who gives them status who are low status men and and now they're okay they have a cause

and you just let me just feel like quickly they meet the guys like this guy's a cool dude this isn't a fundamentalist faith it is a very different paradigm in my opinion i was gonna say that's exactly what daryl said okay that when he would talk to these clansmen and they would hang out later when these guys were at the meetings and they would say these things about black people he go that's not at all like Daryl. Daryl doesn't act that way. As long as you have one, your entire narrative falls apart. Yeah.

But then in terms of the fundamentalist faith, I guess the shield is don't ever talk or listen to anybody. Of course, because that's Satan and the apple. Right. Because they're going to tempt you into faith, into sin. They're sending temptation to make you fall away. You need to stay with us and remain pure, whereas that is the impurity and that's the slippery slope. One day you're listening to Ben Shapiro.

The next day you know Mein Kampf inside and out, as the New York Times told us. But they're told this with a straight face. By a reputable reputation. No one's going to deny the New York Times a great reputation. And the New York Times is telling me on A1 that if I'm reading Ben Shapiro on Monday, I'm going to be getting swastika tattoos on Saturday. Are you saying the New York Times doesn't know what it's talking about? You call Mr. Propellerhead. You refer to the media as the cathedral.

The cathedral is broader than the media. The cathedral is the universities, the media and entertainment cathedral is that the cathedral is broader than the media the cathedral is the universities the media and entertainment and the government and so this is but this is like the leftist saw fundamentalists it's an actual progressive faith that has its roots in the social gospel of woodrow wilson and even a little earlier yes and this has been the governing uh as i talk in my book people think america is a secular society america is a more religious society than ever just because a religion doesn't have a monotheist central god, Buddhism doesn't have that. That does not make it any less of a faith.

They have their rituals. They have their televangelists who tell them what to think. Rachel Maddow, John Oliver, and very, this is literally a religion. They go on their Facebook and spread that day's sermon to all their congregants. And you're coming into their church and telling, hold on a minute, like, this is church. Sit down and shut up. We know what we're told because you're going to tell me that this man of the cloth is wrong or this lesbian of the cloth is wrong.

You don't know what you're talking about. And I'm offended that you would dare come in here and try to spit your sin in my house of purity. I think it's Peter Boghossian who refers to it as a non-theistic religion. Yes, it is absolutely a fundamentalist evangelical faith. I was having a conversation with a prominent online lefty a few years ago, and I was explaining that I view these people as a cult. And then I said, you know, we had a discussion about it, and there's like these rules of culthood. Sure. And, you know having having like a figure yeah so i was like so maybe

it's more of a religion yes this individual you know disagreed with me a couple years later they came back and said everything they experienced with religion was very very similar to what they're experiencing now and it's it's freaking them out yeah absolutely and here's the other thing i want people to appreciate this is something i have enormous disdain for conservatives are do not take people and give them your children to raise eight days five days a week uh who are you're they're training their children to hate you yep they socialists regard your property as their property but even more nefariously they regard your children as their property. But even from an external source, namely that mediocre man or woman from the room

who your approval is based on whether they give you a grade, and it's based on whether they like you or not, more often than not. It is a horrible, Prussian, evil system that's been going on for 100 years, and that is something that really needs to be the next front line among people who care about their kids. Now, just to say one more thing, a lot of people don't have the option to go to private school, of course. That's where the fight

needs to happen, that money has to follow the kid. There need to be more choices for poor people. I was going to ask you about school choice. I mean, I'm for school abolition. I have said many times, public schools are literal prisons for children and the only place many people will ever encounter violence in their lifetimes. And we're told this is a really sick one. It's good that you're bullied because it prepares you for real life. for years with someone who is engaged in psychological warfare or physical warfare against you other than perhaps an extremely abusive marriage. And in that case, there are many venues to help you escape it and transition to a healthy life. Whereas here, there's every opportunity, every chance to close the door and make sure you do not escape. It is depraved.

And what if the bully is your teacher? Well, the bully, I mean, no, no, I've said this also. The teachers are the bullies. The teacher's job is to break your spirit and make you submissive and obedient. Here's some things that happen. I had some good teachers. I'm sure you did have some.

Here are some things that we just take for granted that you think about. Why is it that everyone has to learn in the same way? Why is it that everyone has to be on the same tim? Why is it that everyone has to be on the same timetable? Because there are periods of life in corporate America where everyone just checks in at 9 o'clock, which makes no sense if you're self-employed. Why is it that everyone has to learn the same things

at the same rate? None of these things make sense in a contemporary context, but we still do them. I agree. Abolish school. Yes, abolish public school and the government monopoly on schools. I was homeschooled before kindergarten. Okay. As long as I can literally remember and fathom a thought, my mom was homeschooling me and my siblings.

That's wonderful. When I started school, I was just far ahead. Because you basically had a tutor who loved you. This is like the ideal scenario. So it's really funny. When I was in first grade, there was a math game called Around the World. Oh, yeah.

Where, are you familiar with the game? You stand up, then you stand behind the next desk and the teacher gives you a flash card. Whoever answers first gets to move to the next desk. If you're standing and you get it wrong, you sit down in their seat.

Yeah. I'd never lose. And neither would my brother. And so it got to a point where they would ask us not to play it because no one was faster than us at these at solving these simple you know mathematical equations like just basic addition multiplication division i ended up being uh just like the best like straight a's across the board and then i remember when i left catholic school went to

public school all of a sudden it was very different now i think the problem i had with catholic school and i'm grateful for my experience, was that the Catholic school was so uptight. Everybody walked around with sticks up their butts. Like, kids would cry if they stubbed their toe. It was, like, ridiculously weak. The public school was the exact opposite. It was chaos.

Like, these kids were doing nasty stuff. Just, you know, there was gang activity and things like that. And so I got to experience a little bit of both but my parents had had actively been teaching me before during and after when i left the reason i went to high school for about two months i think or a few months i left um partly because i was lied to every step of the way yeah uh in eighth grade they're like look look i know you're upset and unhappy here and you're being held back because you're smarter and everybody and all that stuff. Grade wise, not like, you know, I was a genius at eight years old, but I mean, 12 years old.

But then they said, when you go to high school, there's going to be everything's gonna be different. You're going to learn the truth about all this, you know, stuff, you know, about history. They're going to get more in depth. And then I got there and it was the exact same garbage. and so i was like i'm not going and i went from straight a's to straight f's yeah and that's when my parents freaked out and they're like something's wrong here yeah and then i went back to homeschooling and so you're very lucky we did this correspondence program i never finished i never got my diploma never got aED. And I had this very easy realization when I was young. The concept of

wealth, wealth transfer, and value is simple. The person sitting in front of me is holding a green piece of paper. How do I convince them to let me hold that green piece of paper? Everything else was irrelevant in terms of all these stupid arguments. It was simply a discussion of, hello, good sir, may I have that dollar? And they might say yes. And I was like, wow, and now I have money. I can do whatever I want with it. And that's how you start a business. And that's the fundamental aspect of entrepreneurship.

Yeah. But look, my family were entrepreneurs. My dad ran side businesses. He was a firefighter. My mom was tutoring and things like that. My grandpa had his own business. And so I was very lucky in that regard. And having a mom who, you know, she tutored me.

I watched my friends go to college. They get indoctrinated. It's horrible. They believe all these fanciful lies. You're going to go to college. You're going to get $50,000 in debt, but you'll be making $100,000 a year when you graduate. And then they go work at Starbucks. Yes.

I remember when I was, I think I was like 16 or 17. My dad did want me to go to college. And I started reading this economist who wrote an article saying, if you go to any investor and say for $40,000 in four years, you'll be $40,000 in debt plus interest, they'll laugh in your face. That's not even a real proposition. Yet we do this to all of these college students all day. So I learned something really interesting later on in life when I was probably around like 25 or 26. So this is when I started covering, you know, I was on the ground covering Occupy Wall Street.

I had a rising profile. I had, you know, offers for work and stuff, but I was kind of doing my thing. And I had a friend who told me a story about he tried hiring people for his job. He initially hired college students, but found they were incapable of doing this kind of work because they struggled and always needed direction, could never solve a problem on their own. He went through a few rounds of these employees not understanding what was wrong. And then finally, when he was broke and he said, I can't afford these kids anymore. I'll just hire someone hourly.

Problem solved. And the people he had hired for hourly moved to California to become actors. And what he said was, I think these kids, they dropped out of high school. They made a decision for themselves. I need to go here to accomplish my goals. Whereas these other college kids were only people who had ever done what they were told to do. Oh, yeah, of course. Because now they've been initiated into this.

It's a caste system. i think it's been demonstrated i don't have the study in front of me obviously that by far the biggest divide in america isn't between race it's between college graduates and non-college graduates um and historically it's been like okay now you this is kind of your entree into a certain stratus of society uh thankfully uh people like you and many others are demonstrating that this is a relic of history. It's very hard to teach people, although it's increasingly easy, that it used to be the American dream, the GI Bill, right? No one in my family ever went to college. My daughter's going to college. My son's going to college. This was a major accomplishment. This is objective proof that our family is getting better that our kids have it better than us so

it's very hard to knock that idea of these people's heads and be like you're paying a lot of money for your beautiful teenage daughter to go away and to come back as a swamp walrus with unnatural hair who loathes and despises you and will feel comfortable berating grandma at thanksgiving dinner because she doesn't know how to pronounce the pronoun xir yes i think i and will feel comfortable berating grandma at Thanksgiving dinner because she doesn't know how to pronounce the pronoun X-I-R. Yes. I think I figured it out. I have a theory.

Okay. GI Bill. That's a good point. People came back from World War II, and they were high school graduates, no degrees, and they raised families. So then you have the kids of the greatest generation. Was it the boomers were the kids? Yeah, that was the boomers. Yeah, boom was the world after world war ii so the boomers

they are growing up in this world where they were raised by a high school graduate yeah they're not they're not told to go to college right because you can raise a family with a high school degree yeah a bunch of these kids become managers and become mid-level you know mid-level managers and and they run stores and businesses and they're making okay money. But then they look at their siblings. They're making six figures. And this is back in the 80s. How are they making so much money?

They went to college. I should have gone to college. Then they tell their kids, you have to go to college because your uncle did and look how much money he made. But they're missing something. Just one more thing. And he looks down on us

and I get why he does. They're missing something though. If you down on us, and I get why he does. They're missing something, though. If you were never told you had to go to college, and you chose to go to college, you made a decision for yourself, and you were pursuing your passion. Sure. It wasn't college that made them wealthy. It was their own passion and drive. And college was just them saying, what's the next step in becoming an architect or whatever?

Now they've told all these kids to succeed you must go to college and those kids don't care and don't know and they take out massive loans and they go to school and say i don't know and then the guys the the the school says well we recommend i guess i don't know you want to be a journalist i don't know well put them in journalism there you go congratulations if the public education system worked as planned you wouldn't need to go to college because that high school diploma would be proof, not just evidence, proof to most companies that this guy can do, a girl can do a great job on day one, that they are skilled, and this is a certificate that has meaning. The fact that a high school graduate is absolutely meaningless in our day and age, including possibly being illiterate, is now like, okay, well, now this is the degree that counts. What they ignore, even if they had the best of interests,

which I do not think for a second, is that this is another four years where this person is not an economic benefit to the culture. He or she is not working. They're students. They're a net loss to the economy. So that's what, instead of going from 1 to 17, where they're not producers, now it's 1 to 21.

Four years in terms of an adult's working lifespan is a significant chunk of that change for them not to be in the job market. And this is an economic cost that they just pretend doesn't matter. You know what kids need? What? Jobs.

Yes, yes. So it gives them self-esteem. I said this in as a vague way as possible to trigger as many of these stupid you know people but my family my mom opened a cafe when i was i think nine and so from nine to eleven i worked at my family business adorable absolutely and did you have the beanie no uh i had a tasmanian devil baseball cap. Did you? Oh my god! How cute! I love it. So I worked the register. My mom would show me some of the management stuff.

And we would serve, I would make drinks. So I was nine and I knew how to make an espresso, cappuccino, all this stuff. While I was in sixth grade. And guess what else? What? I had cash. I bought my very own Game Boy and Pokemon Red on my own from the tip jar i don't know who invented pokemon red i'm just trying to figure out how to get pokemon red to the polls

wait wait i gotta ask you though when you're nine and you're working the register it's the cutest thing ever some people loved it some people hated it oh people i mean people were fawning over you all the time uh I mean, it was in Boys Town. Okay. And so you had gay men and women being like, this is the most darling thing ever. And they'd go to my mom and be like, that's so cute. Oh, my God. He's such a grown up.

And then there were the guys didn't care. They'd be like, thanks for the coffee. Thanks, kid. Yeah. But there was a couple people would be like, why is there a kid making my coffee? But typically, like the women would come in and they'd be like smiling and that's why i made mad tips because you must have been so conscientious too i know i didn't think i didn't think at all i was probably not even sentient yeah but you're kidding by the way yeah but you were still basically doing the job correctly i'm sure and

you knew what you were doing so it's kind of like you tell a kid and the kid delivers it's it's kind of impressive it is yeah yeah i love it so it was a family business my mom would be there my dad would be there and i made my own money and i got to i would i would when there was like no one at the counter it's like there was a counter and then there was a be a table you know so i'd come out from i'd sit down i'd be playing pokemon and or i'd be sitting next to my mom and her friends they'd be talking politics and then i would and i'm sitting right there yeah yeah sitting around a bunch of adults working a real job learning how to actually live yes

and all and so when I remember when I was in sixth grade they were trying to raise money for a present for the teacher and they were like everyone's trying to pitch in a dollar and I walked up

and I was like how much do you need and I pulled out a wad of cash it was like 30 bucks but for like for something this large all in singles all in singles and all in singles.

And I had a bunch of pennies, nickels and quarters. My uncle Jeffrey Epstein gave me this. Who's he? The guy from wall street. And then I pull out a dollar. I'm like, here you go. And then I remember this, this one girl in my class, she was like, how do you have so much money?

And I was like, I have a job. I go to work and my family's business on the weekends. And it wasn't, it wasn't a bad thing like i didn't go like i have to go to work on the weekend it was like my mom would be like hey come to the coffee house and i'm back okay and guess what i would take the bus and the train by myself across the city do you know lenore skanezi i do not she has a book called free range kids because what she, she was called the worst mom of the year because she gave her son like a dollar and told him, find your way home in New York City. And at first he was freaked. But then when he figured out how to do it, he was like, oh my God, I know how to navigate New York. And the point she makes is these stories about kidnappings, which was an issue with like Charles Lindbergh in the 20s or whatever it was.

Now it's not the case. Maybe it's the case now with de Blasio. I can't speak on that. But she's like, people in busy areas are looking. If there's a kid, people are watching to make sure this kid is safe. And it's like, are you okay, little boy, whatever, so on and so forth. So she talks about this very extensively and how healthy it is, as opposed to public schools where your entire mental health is exported to that mediocre person in front of the room where it's like, I'm at 9, at 10, 11.

I'm old enough and big enough to figure out my way around this city and I can handle myself. No one's around me to help me. And I think that's such an empowering message to the kids who aren't dismembered. One of the, I guess, most powerful revelations kids have is I can't believe I had to ask to go to the bathroom. Oh, that's the other one. Yeah. I never did. Do you know what happened to me in second grade? I don't know.

I don't know. I forget. It's been a long time since we- It's in my biography, Ego and Hubris, which is a hundred, it costs a hundred dollars on eBay now. Oh, nice. Second grade, this is one of those stories

which really solidified my absolute contempt for these people. You had to go with a buddy to the bathroom, right? i get it like you don't want the kids wandering around the halls by themselves sure excuse me and miss yeager who's not a attractive woman i remember that very vividly she looked like the skeksis from dark crystal i went with david gaba and we went to we're going to the bathroom and as well and things like you know what i don't really need to go so i took some water the water fountain came back and she's like oh what happened why are you so quick and me or him told the truth like oh i didn't go to the bathroom and she punished me by saying i'm not allowed to go to

the bathroom anymore and then one day i peed my pants and it was you know you're a kid this is trauma traumatizing and we almost got her fired but it just like, it's absolutely demented that you have to ask approval to go. I'm not a dog. You know, you know, I, I, I was lucky for, and now I pee my pants all the time. Oh, I know. And it's just, Oh, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. We'll just get somebody to clean that up. Darn it. I remember when I was, uh, I was probably like seven and, uh, we had, we had to wake up at 6 30 because school started at seven wake up at 6 30 you know get washed up get your backpack grab a bite and then run to the store run to school i think school started at 7 30 or something like that and i remember being really

unhappy and going i don't want to go to school and my dad goes then don't go and i went what he goes don't go and i was like but i have to go to school and he goes says who and i was like i have to go to school. And he goes, says who? And I was like, I have to go to school. And he's like, your choice. And then I went to school. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, I have to. Yeah. And that was, I think that was really a really smart thing to say to me.

Because I knew my responsibilities. And I was like, I can't not go to school. I could, but he's right. My dad was saying, if I didn't, if I didn't if I have to choose and I chose responsibility and so I went and did that and that was kind of you know I think it's it's lessons like that and that's why I became a high school dropout and it is it is absolutely and it's also why I have a successful podcast it's all part of this so uh it's yeah you're right because you know when to cut your losses oh absolutely you know like this is not providing

value to me I know what I'm worth why am I here you know you know what it is it's true. Yeah, you're right. Because you know when to cut your losses. Oh, absolutely. You know, like this is not providing value to me. I know what I'm worth. Why am I here? You know, you know what it is. It's true, though. And this is all man. I really am grateful to my parents. My mom tutored me and homeschooled me and gave me the perspicacity to function properly. I learned that from the Simpsons, by the way, from Lisa Simpson, the word perspicacity. My dad gave me an understanding of the balance between responsibility and freedom. Yeah. Another story that I have is I was driving in the car with my dad and we saw what looked like a homeless guy riding a bike and he looked awful, disheveled, pulling like a little cart full of garbage. And I said something like, oh, that's sad. And he goes, what is? And I was like, that man. And he goes, why is it sad? And I was like, that man. And he goes, why is that sad? And I was like, because he's homeless. He could be the happiest guy in the world for all you know. And I was like, oh, yeah.

He taught you empathy. Not everything's from your own perspective. Some different people have different perspectives. And so then I think what made me drop out was not cutting my losses, was I need to decide for myself, and I need to figure out what I need to do, and no one's going to do for me. And it's really interesting how that translates into the work I do here on YouTube and podcasting in general. I mean, the podcast is on a bunch of other platforms as well. But so many people have

this view in their mind that you must be lifted up by someone else and they use jobs and opportunities as stepping stones. Like, hey, Tim, you know Joe Rogan, right? Can you put in a show? No, it's never going to happen. Dude, don't hit me up. I got an email from someone saying, Tim, we'd really love to get this high profile guest on your show. And now I'm talking high profile

and I'm like, wow. And then they email, we're really looking into these dates and we just want to know real quick, did you have Joe's email? I'm just like, into the trash you go. I deal with my own business. I do my thing.

I'm not going to, you know, you're not coming here for a stepping stone. These people don't realize this. If you want to succeed. I came here for a stepping stone. Did you now? I don't believe it. Do you have Joe Rogan's email? Yes.

Maybe I'll be on. For you. Maybe I'll be on one day. My advice to people is mind your own business. And I don't mean that in the sense like don't talk to people, don't network. I'm saying work hard and figure it out for yourself. And people will be glad to introduce you to other people. Because if there's someone who would be a great guest on the show, I would not – if someone asked me to get in touch with you, I wouldn't do it.

But if I knew someone who I knew he'd be a good guest, you wouldn't have to ask me. I'd be like, Tim, you should check this person out. You could say yes or no, but you wouldn't also feel weird that I recommended someone who you could see as possibly a potential guest. A lot of people, I think... It's so transparent, though. They're so heavy-handed with it. It's despicable.

And these are... Look, when I look at the SJW types, they go to school, they're told what to do. I've tried working with these people, man. Look, I think the hiring process has to be extremely rigorous. Yes. And a lot of these people that I've worked with can solve no problem. They just, I mean, they're NPCs in regards where you're like, take this and hit that rock. And they will.

But I don't need to hire someone to do something I know how to do. It's critical theory, not critical thought. I just thought of that. And whoever else uses it, you have to credit me. No, it's, it's, but that's a good way of conceptualizing it. But there's, there's, there's another, there's another aspect to that too. There are other people who are not SJWs who spent their entire lives lives in in school then college and they went to like good private schools they're still people who are guided you know uh with with someone in front of them saying now you do this blue pill people

they think every screen is a window but i don't i don't but uh i'm talking about even conservatives too many conservatives are completely blue pilled absolutely if you think that uh candace owens and trump if you sit down with a black person who's a lawyer and you tell them you're on a plantation and this is going to end well for you and is appropriate you're blue-pilled and deranged wait say that one more time if you do the candace owens thing you sit down with a black person who's a lawyer and say you're on a plantation you should vote republican that this is something that's appropriate or that they're going to be receptive to your crazy person. I certainly think she's had an impact, to be fair.

Sure. Well, assuming the polls are correct, I think there's a lot of... What's Trump's support among black Americans right now? So there are four polls that put it around 30%. Approval rating or intent to vote? So Rasmussen has likely voter approval. That's not the same. I know, right, right, right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if the approved rating is 30%. But my point is, I don't think that's an effective... You were earlier talking about convincing someone to give you money. I don't think someone who is at all successful, if you talk to them as a white person and say you're in a plantation, this is going to be grounds for further conversation. Right, of course, of course.

The Socratic method. Yes. Ask them to just define their position. Like, what is it about him? How do we turn this no into a yes? What is it about him that you hate the most? What is it about him that you like the most or most comfortable with? I can tell you it's not even the most effective way that we used to do for fundraising.

You never tell them where you want them to go. You build a rapport with them and then put them in a position where their only option is to go in the direction you want. Okay. But give them the illusion of choice, I'm sure. So, right. So an example would be once you've built that rapport and they view you as the same as them. So, hey, we both supported Obama. High five. Yeah, man. Wasn't Obama a great president? Isn't Trump so bad? Then you say something like, you know, one of the we both supported Obama. High five. Yeah, man. Wasn't Obama a great president? Isn't Trump so bad? Then you say something like, you know, one of the best things about Obama. And then you go on to cite his foreign policy record.

Yeah. And something the average person is going to be like, that is nightmarish. Yeah. You force them to criticize Obama. Yeah. Because you liked it. But Obama did a bunch of really bad foreign policy stuff that if I said, I don't want those quotes taken out of context.

You know, I'm sure you know, like drone strike, Abdul Rahman al-Awlaki. Of course, the Iran stuff. Oh, totally. You endorse that to somebody and you'll force them to back away. So these are tricks, manipulation. And it's one of the reasons I didn't want to work in fundraising because you have to. Yeah, yeah. In sales, you can't be honest with people.

Right. Because people will react emotionally. Yeah, you're manipulating them towards a people because people will react emotionally. Yeah. You're manipulating them towards a goal that they're not aware of that is their goal. I didn't last very long at any one of these companies, to be completely honest, because I felt like I could go to any one of these nonprofits and finally find the place where I could be honest. Yeah.

And I did. And I remember one time I was pitching a guy on a homeless shelter and the charitable rate to administrative rate was 50-50, which is garbage for a nonprofit. Like the good nonprofits, 90% of your dollar, 90 cents goes to the charitable cost. Okay. Wow. Isn't there a website that tells you which charities are good and which ones are bad? Yeah. And the big ones are usually bad. Yeah. Like Susan Coleman is not notoriously bad. I don't know. I think so. Like they pay the CEO massive salary and there's arguments

for why they do that because they have to be competitive with good with good leaders and they are businesses but i remember a guy saying you mean to tell me if i give you a buck 50 cents is going to go into a manager's pocket and i and i said yeah yeah yeah but look at the other number see that that number that went to the kids could be zero and he went oh no yeah oh that'd be bad i'm like right look we got to pay for the company man like so we're we're getting as much as we can and i i prefer to be honest they didn't like it they actually straight up told me to lie like every time and so i left the industry because i'm like i'm not going to go out here and i thought i was fighting for something good and

that's ultimately why i quit just i didn't want to to work in that kind of environment but imagine everything's going on with politics like we opened this uh this this show talking about how the atlantic is playing defense for joe biden yeah and one of the things we didn't actually mention there's a new story that came out from the washington post and a bunch of other outlets 93 of all of the protests have been peaceful yeah how convenient at a time when we're actually starting to get angry about the violence and the destruction and regular people are waking up to how insane it is 93 yeah 93 all peaceful i made this point on twitter i made it to you earlier if i kill someone once it is the corporate press is factual but not truthful

if i kill someone once i am mostly peaceful 364 days of the year i kill no one do you know what they else they do this is an amazing one when they talk about like terrorism and they talk about Muslim terrorism versus like white male extremist terrorism and they start at 2002 it's like why'd you start in 2002? Anything happen in 2001 that might skew the day to another possibly? And what year do they choose for

white supremacy? What year? Can you give me the specific year? I don't know which one you're talking about The Oklahoma City bombing Oh yeah, Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

With Anthony McVeigh. Was that like 94? Something like that. Yeah. They go back. Yeah. So it's always like since this date. Yeah.

Oh, since that date. Huh? So it's factual, but not truthful. And the same is like, OK, seven. If you have a billion protests and seven percent are violent, that's really bad. If you have 100 protests and seven percent are violent, that really bad if you have a hundred protests and seven percent are violent that's bad but nowhere near as bad percentage is completely an irrelevancy when we're dealing with people being killed yeah burners businesses the america this is why i have

so much contempt uh for de blasio and cuomo and many such other people which is there's nothing more american we've all been told especially by the cuomos of the world, the Fredos of the world, where you have the family that comes over, mom and dad put together a business. Maybe mom's a good cook. They have a restaurant, dry cleaning, grocery store, all the typical immigrant jobs. These were the first people put out of business by this COVID nonsense. And there's no responsibility for what you've done to them. There's not going to be any restitution. And now when their businesses are burnt down, they're told, sit down and shut up. You have insurance.

You built something with your hands. This is your dream. Blood, sweat, and tears. And the question is, well, you got to check. Why are you complaining? Are you insane? You people are monsters. Yeah.

Like this desk we have and these walls and everything. So Adam actually put these walls together. I bought the fake vinyl slats, though. That was my contribution. Okay. But no, so everything that this studio is built upon was incremental for me. It wasn't like one day I just knew exactly what I needed to buy. Sure, sure.

And so if everything that I've put together was destroyed overnight, insurance would never rebuild it. Yeah, of course not. There's no one I can hire to do that job. But just also emotionally. Right, right, right. It's like you're going to get another spinning fake circular earth. No. Fake circular earth.

Yeah. Circular, yeah. It's not really round. Yeah. We would lose the UFO. But we have like that life-size Trump I suppose I could replace. Yeah. We have a life-size cardboard Trump someone sent us.

But it's also like are you going to buy the same thing the second time? It's gone. It's not the same one. Yep. I actually have just over there under a desk a whole bunch of objects of historical value from news events that I've covered. Okay. So one example is the police. So I lived on the street where the cops got executed by the black supremacist in Brooklyn. Yeah. And the police tape,

I walked out my door and I took the police tape and I ripped the piece off and brought it inside. I was like, this happened. This is, you know, it's kind of like I can look at anyone. The ones who were shot in their house, in the car. Oh my gosh. Wow. I lived on that street. Yeah. And yeah. Did you hear the gunshots? No. Okay. No. I heard the helicopter 20 feet above my house, though. Okay. When the cops came in, they wouldn't let me leave my house, but I left my house, and I went and filmed it. These objects I have can never be replaced.

Impossible. Of course. But I can look at them, and I know that happened. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. So, you know, it's kind of that.

I look at that, and it's like tying a ribbon, you know, tying a string around your finger. It's like a ribbon around a tree. I've got a whole like this is your dream i i for me very upset these are these objects are beyond me it's it's it's also history yeah right it's it's it's like this happened yeah and i can show this to someone and tell them the history of these things and these conflicts and if that was destroyed never yeah of course these are the talismans beyond Beyond value. Contemporary talismans. So not only that, but the insurance only covers a certain number. So one story that came out of Minneapolis is that the debris removal for many buildings was over 100K. Insurance only covers 25. Oh, my God. Nobody thought they were going to demolish their entire building and haul all the debris away.

Yeah, yeah. So now they're out of business permanently. Then you have a combination of COVID and the riots. And that's why I'm just like, look, man, the Republicans have resisted the lockdowns and Trump has been straight up law and order the whole time. Yeah. The Democrats have been go protest. Woohoo.

And lock it all down. It's extremely important that we all stay home. And now it's extremely important that we all take to the streets. And now it's extremely important we all stay home. And now it's extremely important that we all take to the streets. And now it's extremely important we all stay home. And I'm going to say something else. I tweeted this out earlier this week. I'm guessing it's going to be around 2023, 2024

when we start having necessary discussion about how do you have personal consequences for these people who do these things. Because without personal consequences, they will do it again in a second because their incentives are all there. And until that happens, and it's not going to be voting them out of office, this is going to continue. And that's going to be a very disturbing conversation to have. Should there be a grand jury indictment for Cuomo for putting sick patients into nursing homes, killing 6,500 elderly?

I am not in a position to say what I think should be done, Governor Cuomo. Say that on the air. Not publicly, at least. I am not. And I'm not joking in the slightest. There's a lot of governors who were putting sick people in nursing homes. Yes. And thousands upon thousands of people died because of this.

But then if you left your house without a mask, you want to kill grandma. Yeah, what the heck? See, you want to kill grandma, but I'm actually doing it. And Cuomo is fighting tooth and nail, understandably, to have any investigation is my understanding. Maybe, I know you're against voting, but for me, this was all of these things were a big catalyst for me being like, we got to vote him out. I mean, if anything I can can do i can cast a ballot i'm not saying it's the only thing that can be done i do a show to millions of people and like tell them like look at these things that are happening something must be done but at the very

least i can say no to these people and if that's the one thing i can do to start it's a good start because i'm worried about what happens i'm worried about a good finish. Oh, yeah? Rather than a good start. Some of the statements made by individuals, higher profile right-wing groups and right-wing militia groups, the things they've said, I'm like, I hope saying no, it's the best thing I can do. And if we all do it, it can prevent the worst to come. The worst that is to come. I'm not even talking about violence. I just mean the fact that an indictment, whatever, it's just absolutely crazy that someone can do this much damage.

I had a poll on my Twitter. I said, who has done more damage to New York City, Muhammad Atta or de Blasio? And de Blasio won 90 to 1, but it's 90 to 10. But it's indisputably true. I've been there all my life. And I'm telling you, Tim, it is devastating and heartbreak. Here's the other thing. This got me so upset.

I was like literally shaking. Ha ha ha. But not really. I was actually literally shaking. A couple of weeks ago, I was very tired. And I'm just kind of tired. It wouldn't go away. And I'm like, wait a minute.

Maybe I have COVID. And I talked to my buddy Jay and he goes, no, no, no, no. You can't have it. I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, it's down to 100 cases in New York City a day. There have been no deaths for like two months. And I go, you can't be serious. He pulls up the data.

And I'm sitting there. I'm like, for two months, there's been no deaths. And yet you have entire industries filled with low, uneducated, often low-skilled people. Where are they supposed to go? It's just horrifying. They're destroying New York. Yes. And they're blaming Trump for it.

Yes. Cuomo just said if Trump comes here, he better have a bunch of bodyguards. An army. No, no, no. He said the bodyguards wouldn't be enough. He better bring an army. How dare you talk about this? You are normalizing violence against the president of the United States as the governor.

You're saying, well, I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of people, like, force violence on you. How many people – It's your job to keep him safe. He's a New York resident, or he was until recently. How many people died in New York from COVID? I don't have the number. Is it like – It wasn't like 25,000, but then those numbers are skewed because now we're finding that they died with COVID as opposed to died of COVID.

No, no, they died from COVID. Okay. So this is something that a lot of people are confused by. I think Lydia clarified this having actually been a fancy doctor. Yeah. So if you had something else and you died of COVID, they counted you as having died with COVID, which is, I believe, pretty standard operation. No, but specifically the 94% thing that came out, comorbidities.

Yeah. So a comorbidity doesn't mean you died of the comorbidity. Right, exactly. You died of COVID. It's a comorbidity. It's something that you died along with. Here's the argument. It's that if you're obese, you'll live.

If you're obese and you get COVID, COVID is likely to kill you. Okay. So these people, we knew this from the beginning that people who had comorbidities or were in vulnerable groups were much more likely to die from COVID. But I think when you look at the data and a lot of the arguments now coming from even some reputable, I say reputable, wink, wink, news sources, what I mean by that is, are they actually credible? But they are mainstream.

They're saying that something happened, but it ended a while ago, a few months ago at least. And now the argument, I suppose, for many of these leftists is oh, but it's only because we're locked down we're not seeing it. As opposed to the fact that the Sunbelt bump never escalated. It bumped a little bit and gone.

So now there's some prominent outlets saying we believe we've reached herd immunity. The CDC changed their guidelines. Then Fauci was like, oh, harumph, I say. And then there are some jurisdictions that have completely opened up that were previously locked down, suggesting, yeah, we should have been good

to reopen a while ago, at least substantially more than we've already done. But for whatever reason, they want to destroy and make sure that these businesses cannot ever come back you know the reason the reason is they enjoy their sense of power and i i also said this i also tweeted this out which is whether we like it or not some very evil people now have some very useful information about how much americans will put up with i think it's also that they're cowards and they don't want

any responsibility at all of course the incentives are all against it opening up it's also that they're cowards and they don't want any responsibility at all. Of course. The incentives are all against it opening up. It's more like if there's a death, it's going to be on my shoulders. If it's a business loss, I can shrug my hand. I could get a shrug. But COVID. Yeah.

The incentives are completely. That's why it's so disturbing. What I think is happening is that. Did you read Matt Taibbi's piece recently? He just published it about the Trump era sucks and needs to end. I read the first paragraph and it got me angry. It's really good. I agree with you.

I'm sure it is good. But the point he made in that first paragraph, and I don't know if this theme of the whole piece, was he was saying that a lot of lefties who come from liberal arts colleges have never been in sales meetings. So when they hear Trump talk and say these absurdities, it doesn't resonate with them. And they're like, I've never heard anything like this. And we need to get away from that culture and back to our culture. And my point is, if you're asking me to choose between the salespeople and the Ivy League grads, this is not a hard choice. And we need to do everything in our possible, possible in our power

to avoid that because the first college president to become president was who what woodrow wilson oh there you go so it all goes full circle and you have people who are morons who are not not highly educated like ronald reagan from eureka college who ends the cold war without firing a shot and i'm using the term moron here ironically there's there's a great part of this article he writes where he says the the the media like he essentially says the cycle functions like this with the media trump will say something yeah the media within seconds will immediately assert the opposite with without evidence yes but claiming trump is the one who's trying to kill people yes and he says call this the hydroxychloroquine effect yeah the president sees

some news reports from some some outlets claiming there's some prominent studies then he boasts and brags about it then the media immediately declares he's trying to kill people. Then you discover a day later that Trump actually said, what do I know? I'm not a doctor. And the media omitted that to make it seem like he was telling people to run outside and mainline hydroxychloroquine. And I laughed.

It's hilarious. Now, Matt doesn't like Trump, but that... Here's another one I pointed out. Back in May, he had everyone tweeting hashtag I am Antifa. People who had never heard of Antifa the week prior were now in a position to lecture their Facebook friends about this organization. This movement doesn't really exist, but if it did exist, it's just like you and me. So I would encourage people to go back and look at any blue checks who checked i am antifa and ask them follow up do you still consider yourself a member of antifa what a great question

who was uh uh was it keith ellison ellison's son was holding well keith ellison was holding the book but then his son said if somebody i think it was keith ellison's son somebody said when trump said he wanted antifa to be labeled domestic terrorists then a bunch of people were like i am antifa and yeah it was a sin, I think. So it's like, Bill Barr straight up said they investigate their activities as domestic terror. With good reason.

I'm not a fan of these the laws that ascribe that our motives are prerequisite to breaking a crime when the crime is already a crime. If you go around beating people and threatening them and coercing them you know you're breaking the law yeah to slap on an additional like well but you did it because there was a different reason sure sure like hate crime laws too i agree i'm like if it's illegal it's illegal right you know

if you kill someone because your prejudice do you kill someone because they're screwing your wife it's these are murders yeah right right exactly and i i think we should have equality under the law so i'm not i'm not sure if i'm a big fan of charging people as terrorists instead of just like harassment i don't i think by charging but if you regard them and you look at that strategically and have people who are undercover and keep an eye because that happens with you know racist radical groups as well it should and all these muslim radical groups as well it should it's like okay let's have our guy in there or at least someone a neighbor keeping an eye on them to make sure things don't get out of hand let them have their meetings in there or at least someone, a neighbor, keeping an eye on them to make sure things don't get out of hand.

Let them have their meetings. But once things go nuts. There's another reason why I don't like tribes, don't want to be a part of tribes, and don't like voting for people. I don't want to be a part of any group. This is – I got to say, I've done my homework, and what's happening now has made me feel like I have to vote for Trump at the very least. But again, I have to stress the people that I often talk to who complain about Republicans, like what Trump this and that, I'll be like, Trump is very different from what the Republicans are. I think the Republicans are awful, completely awful. But I just think the way I kind of view it now, Trump is a bull that he was unleashed into the ivory tower and he's just stomping around, running upstairs, kicking, you know, and these these ivy league you know ivory tower elites are like going oh and like running

around frantic yeah and if you help them kick the bull out they will lock the doors and never let anyone in again yes they will take steps to make sure this happened once this and they will tell you this was a fluke we know it's a fluke because it only happened once and america came to its census four year later and now we got to take steps to make sure this fluke is not possible again. And just one more thing. The Republican Party will do everything in its power to make sure they can't be another Trump nominee. Yes. So if they send you a video from the Tower of the Bull snorting and kicking over vases, it looks terrible, doesn't it?

Sure. Yeah. But what happens if the Bull stays in and finally pushes them out? The Bull gets tired. The Bull eventually leaves. And now the people can come in. The establishment that wants to lock down control are getting support from progressives in this country who I'm surprised they should be sitting back laughing at the establishment getting trounced all over. Let Trump, you know, Trump is not that bad. Let him let him, you know, run his course, push back on the extremism.

I guess a lot of these progressives are identitarians. So they're trying to accept their victories as well. The way I see it is after Trump, if the establishment is pushed out and weakened beyond any repair, then maybe we can actually start having real conversations beyond what Trump is or was. But if he gets kicked out, then you're going to have the same corporate crony, Wall Street, whatever elites locking the doors and no one will ever get in. Yes. And that's I mean, this is how disingenuous there was. There was an article recently. It says, oh, my gosh, all these Republican national security advisers with all this history behind them are endorsing Biden.

And then I just retweeted. I go, this happened four years ago under Hillary. Like we all remember this, that it was like all everyone in the war party machine, Republican or Democrat, were for Hillary. Right. This is like this. What a big deal. We've told you what to do. Vote for her. Everyone agrees.

It's like Biden. It's happened with Biden. This has never happened before. No, it literally happened last time. Liar. There was a news report. Six mayors from Iron Range cities endorsed Donald Trump. You're familiar with the Iron Range?

No, I'm not. It is the second biggest Democrat stronghold in Minnesota. Okay. It is the Democrat farmer labor party territory. Oh, wow. Very lefty. That's socialist left. Not all of them endorsed Trump.

Some of them actually pushed back. But when I saw that and then someone sent me, I said, wow, look at this. You know, all these union towns endorsing Trump. Someone sent me, but look at the Republicans endorsing Biden. And the Republicans were all former, you know, all these union towns endorsing Trump, someone sent me, but look at the Republicans endorsing Biden. And the Republicans were all former, you know, intelligence. And I said, if you're telling me I have to choose between the union laborers and some spooks, you know, it's not a hard choice. I'll take the union guys any day. I'm not interested in these intelligence guys.

This is the KGB. I'm not joking. I mean, these organizations have secret police who spy on American citizens. They listen to our phone calls grossly unconstitutionally. Snowden just showed that this program was based on lies. And we're supposed to smile and nod and regard them as patriots? I left Russia, but I guess I brought it over with me. I'm kind of hoping that if Trump gets reelected, one of the first things he does is pardon Snowden and Assange.

And also Dread Pirate Roberts, Ross Ulbricht. I don't know a whole lot about that, but from what I've read, the whole thing seems fairly messed up. Yes, it's very much so. I had his mom Lynn on my show, and it was a very touching episode. Do you think Trump would just pardon all these individuals or commute? I don't think it's remotely implausible. And you know what? He might even do it if he loses. That's true. That's true. You know, it's funny is also the marijuana people.

Yes. I think Glenn Greenwald brought this up because somebody was like, why would Trump pardon Assange? Because everyone thought he would. And he said something like, maybe it's because Assange exposed the intelligence agencies that were spending years, you know, screwing with his presidency and causing him problems. And now he's angry about it. Yeah.

Well, we play with the bull, get the horn. This is what I really, really hope. I hope if Trump gets reelected that we see my favorite side of Trump, the petty vindictiveness. One of the best moments of the Trump presidency was when Nancy Pelosi and all them were going overseas and he made them literally turn the bus around and saying you're not getting on the plane. We all saw that. You heard the curb your enthusiasm music in your head as they were getting off the bus. It was pornographic. Didn't they drive around in circles for a while?

I think so. Yeah, they know what to do. It was amazing. It's like. I've never been a fan of Trump's. And he did this a lot earlier on. He's very bombastic, very offensive and angry. And he's chilled out a whole lot.

But I got to tell you, there is something magical to seeing crony establishment millionaires. Yeah. And billionaires. And billionaires getting comeuppance. Yeah. Hillary. Not Hillary. I'm sorry.

Nancy Pelosi, who's been in. Well, actually, yes. Hillary Clinton. I laughed so hard when he won because it was like – at the time in 2016, I was for Bernie. And then Bernie kind of let me down in a lot of ways. But when Hillary lost, it was like all of your dirty games and your arrogance has just – Remember that tweet? Happy birthday to this future president a few days before the election.

Oh, man. Happy birthday, bitch. Sorry. Sorry. I was told no cursing. I almost got through. Oh, man. No, we don't say no cursing.

We just say, like, keep in mind, YouTube will punish you. But there's something magical. We'll take it out of post. This is why a lot of people like Trump, because finally you had someone in your corner saying all of these things that you wish you could say to them and he's saying it well also the fact that this sense of that the vote is kind of a formality all the smart people agreed no fortune 500 company executive this college this club from yale which has never endorsed anyone from president national geographical these random places listen we told you what to do now get in that booth and do it

and people like yeah i don't want to so i'm an american i have a finger on each hand and i'm gonna use them so there you go i guess we'll see how it plays out i think those debates are going to be amazing how could you imagine i i can't handle it i gotta tell you it's not at all impossible biden does perfectly fine it's not at all impossible. Biden does perfectly fine. It's not impossible. What do you think is going to happen when Trump says, listen, we have had for months far left anarchists in this country. Joe, excuse me. Excuse me, Joe. You, your campaign bailed them out.

And so did Kamala Harris. No, no, no. You supported them. You supported them you supported them did you posobic tweeted out that they're thinking biden's team of having him take a knee at the debate because he's done that at a church before this there's a phone he won't be able to get i desperately hope that happens i desperately hope he takes a knee yeah it's it's just gonna be like okay like you this is if you want to be signaling to the america go ahead go do it trump will. Trump will just it's he might pee on literally.

What did Joe say? Mike Tyson fighting a three year old. Oh, my God. Could you imagine that? No, no, I don't. Listen, I don't want Joe Biden did bested Sarah Palin. Not that she's a genius, but he Paul Ryan was no dummy. Yeah, but this is a long time ago, man.

The point is, there is a track record and he was in the Senate for many years. It's still there in his brain. So it's not at all a given that he's going to be there and literally crap his pants on stage as I'm predicting. I think Trump is going to – it's going to be – You're also forgetting there's a third person there. That's the moderator and it's very very plausible that that moderator will be doing joe's being like the the switch hit or whatever you want to call it and be like oh when he said this and just complete mischaracterized remember when i'm training the audience remember when anderson cooper i can't remember exactly what it was but he basically

answered the question in his question yeah i can't remember who he was talking to but he was like this whole thing happened and here's why and here's what it means your thoughts yeah it's like yes thank you agreed yeah yeah let's take super chats okay we went a little long because we're having a lot of fun so we'll just try and raise as many as we can don't speak for me yeah no we can tell hell on earth first you wanna you have a you want to mention your show or twitter or sure michael malice on twitter my books are dear reader and the new right and uh youtube channels youtube.com slash mich Dear Reader and The New Right and YouTube channels. YouTube.com slash Michael Malice Official. There you go. And of course, we do the show Monday through Friday

at 8 p.m. live. So smash that like button if you have not already. We are dramatically under-liked. So we would appreciate that. And let's read Super Chats. Okay. So we got Lauren who says, this is a big Super Chat. How much? 200 bucks. Nice. Russia does not trust the West. Historically,

Russia has always been Western Europe's whipping boy. The West picks on Putin because they're punching down. Remember, we're still in the generation that won the Cold War and got incredibly cocky afterward by building the EU in Warsaw Pact countries. You have any thoughts on that? I think he's absolutely right

on the money. I think Russia, one of the things they love I think it was a lady, Lauren. It could be a man. Lauren's one of the guys who made this. His name's Lauren, I believe. One of the things that,

why they like Putin and Mother Russia, where I'm from, is because he's restored Russia's status in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a big thing for them.

I heard he wants to recreate the Soviet Union, essentially. I mean, that's the big knock against him from a lot of these thing for them. I heard he wants to recreate the Soviet Union, essentially. I mean, that's the big knock against him from a lot of these neocons. I don't know if that's really true.

But he certainly wants to be, recreate the sense of Russia's grandeur. Like a trade federation. Yes, yes. That kind of stuff, yeah. Tassan says, how's it going?

I sent him a message on Instagram. Name is Tassan. I hope you see it. I talked about my opinion and opinion of some of my friends. It is Lauren. Lauren did make this hat sorry oh excellent from the marine corps if civil

conflict breaks out thanks for everything i will check that out that sounds very interesting thanks for the message sheriff says hi mike hey michael which pre-obama president would have had the best twitter account that is a great question let's go through them um bill clinton uh pre-obama clinton i don't think so. I think Clinton was very phony. Twitter is much more raw. It's certainly not going to be Coolidge. It might be Warren Harding.

Warren Harding was a drunk and a lech. He knocked out the woman Nan Britton. This was the first contemporary presidential scandal. Only recently did the descendant take DNA to prove that he was, in fact, the father. Wow. He was accused of being our first Negro president. They ran a campaign that said he had Negro blood. This was proven to be false. Oh, I know who it would be. Oh, this is an easy one. Sorry.

Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt had so many quotes. I despise him, but he was such a badass and was so aggressive, and he was worried about, like, nincompoops and all these weird terms, like he would be the best one easily. There you go.

Made for Twitter. Yeah. Akabat says, are any of you aware of the recent social justice inroads into the military government? For example, legally labeling BLM a non-political speech. What's going to happen during the election if social media really cracks down and dissenting speech? You're much more plugged in on social media than I am. So you're the one who went after Joe, went against Joe Jack Dorsey and Rogan, obviously. Joe Jack. Yeah. I think the conservatives are greatly overconfident in their ability to win a conflict. Yes. Because of their,

because they don't realize their disadvantage in communications. So I think Verizon and AT&T would ban anybody in a moment's notice. Oh, yeah. And they would argue national security in two seconds. So come election time, Mark Zuckerberg has already sided with the narrative of the left that the election is going to be totally fine even if we can't determine a winner for weeks, which is not totally fine. So what's going to happen is there's going to be impropriety. We've already seen it across the country. And I think they're prepping us for it so that we say these things. Then when we're like, hey, we're seeing these problems and Trump comes out and

says, what's going on in, you know, in Florida is a disgrace. These mail-in ballots they're finding banned. Then you'll only ever hear the left narrative. What's really funny on Reddit, for a long time there's been a meme called the left can't meme, which I'm sure you've heard of. Did you know that on Reddit, however, the prominent subreddit that

often makes the front page is called the right can't meme. And it's full of fake memes that no one is sharing. And it makes it seem like the right is really, really dumb. Although, to be fair, I've seen some of these boomer con memes and they are the torture. It's literal human rights violations. Sure, sure. 80 pages of text.

Right, right, right, right. But they're not in any way prominent. Correct. So where do these people find these memes that no one shares? Well, I think something else that speaks to the question been we they stopped banning people for an extended period of time maybe i'm wrong maybe there's people i'm not thinking of but the fact that they went after carpe donctum after not verifying him the guy who makes the memes that the president shares and they just like oh copyright violation they were setting the pages of the stages excuse me

you had all these cathedral operatives referring to doctored videos it's a meme you're all using the same term doctored which implies deception when president trump in a wrestlemania clip is body slamming cnn no one looks at that and says so cnn the network has become incarnate as a person with the logo as a head and the president is body slamming him this confuses me. Just become incarnate. So the fact that they are taking out prominent figures like that should be very disturbing

because we're one step away and I think the EU has passed laws to this effect where making memes is illegal because that is one of the most effective ways at delegitimizing their authority because it's not, I'm going to argue with you, it's I'm going to demonstrate you're an awful person who should be the object of derision not someone to disagree with merely we got another one austin trammell says heard rumors of antifa scouting out

small new hampshire towns and i'll make them turn uh and i'll make them turn back we got a lot of weapons how would a regular joe like me get on the show i'm 20 and for trump 100 many uh maybe many regular people can get together. Spin the saucer. So one thing we do, what we are planning on doing in the future is getting regular people. It sounds like a nightmare. Well, the challenge is vetting people. Okay.

But the idea is, I don't like, I'm really anti-elitist. I'm very pro-elitist. You're pro-elitist. I'm a hard, I have a piece of Alexander Hamilton's hair in my house. I'm not even joking. Yeah. I like the idea of, you know, look look i've had a lot of conversations with people who just work normal jobs who aren't into politics sure they're great people but hearing what they think is going to be extremely insightful for people when you're trying to when you're trying to track opinions and you've got this class of people that are plugged in politicos

who read the news all day sure our opinions are so far removed from regular people okay so trying to find vetting is the problem because you might get some dude who comes in and starts talking about just a lizard people and you know it's like i'm telling you man i saw a guy and his eyes went you know crazy and i'm like uh maybe you should we shouldn't have done this yeah so just finding you know just like regular people who are you know they follow the news a little bit they're not out of it is one of the things we're gonna you know try i i'm doing everything in my power to pray to loki the god of mischief that someone gets past the radar and just trolls you hard it'll be so good no i'm praying right now loki listen you

know you answer my prayers do this for me the only real concern is finding someone who it you know you answer my prayers. Do this for me. The only real concern is finding someone who, you know, it turns out that they're an unrepentant racist and immediately starts screaming insane things. We've got to throw them out. If someone came in talking about lizard people, I'd be so mad. What if they just told meandering stories that didn't really pay off? Well, that's fine. That's like –

They called out the Michael Malice show. Yeah. That's happened before. So you need to hear this, man, because this is really important. fine that's like they called out the michael malice show yeah so so so this was you're you need to hear this man because this is really important i want i was once uh on my way to mcdonald's and this is very important when i was walking there i actually came across a dog now the dog i couldn't tell what kind of dog it was but the guy who was with him his phone started ringing and i could overhear on the phone there was some guy talking about some kind of box factory i think actually i think it's a storage place so anyway that storage place it

turns out and they just go on forever right five bees for nickel i'd say yeah and they just keep going yeah yeah well you know that's what i want we're gonna try and find maybe like you know regulars for the show that we see and know that are interested because uh do not email me asking to get on tim's show i'm not gonna do it and if you're a regular person don't talk to me directly the only way we'll book you is if i'm at his email addresses all right yeah so uh we're not at the position yet where we can start actually setting up this uh but we're we're getting really close to relocating and setting up a new temporary studio. We're actually getting a real studio built. That's exciting.

I'm in this, like, addition on my house. That's great. This is foam insulation with sound foam glued on top of it. This is top-of-the-line stuff, Tim. It looks cool. Don't sell it. It looks cool. The budget for it was, like, 50 bucks. Yeah, it was great is top of the line stuff, Tim. It looks cool. Don't sell it. The budget for it was like 50 bucks. Yeah, it was great.

So hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Adam made it. He did a great job. I love how like the UFO costs more than the entire set. We just covered the walls because the walls were boring. All right, let's read some more of these here. Super chats. Court J says,

Has anyone noticed that since they arrested Epstein's girlfriend, we have found and rescued over 50 children yes uh you're the one who's saying that you think she's talking i saw someone sweep that out i didn't i didn't say that someone said that to me and i was like interesting yeah i i mean i i don't understand how someone who has i think more than one passport who's like a french national british national is in a position to get herself arrested i think this this is very much situation where she's like all right right, let's cut a deal. That's what makes sense to me, at least.

She's not a dummy. And then they finally find her. And again, there's no footage of the arrest, and there's no perp walk, as I pointed out with Epstein. Give me a stupid reason as to why there's no perp walk or arrest. You really want that water, just take it. I told you. Let it take it.

10.01 p.m. So this is important for everybody listening. My supervisor. We we we normally on the show at 10. And that's when Bucko wakes up. Yeah. And then he becomes adamant that, you know, you're supposed to be done with the show. Give me attention.

So here he is standing. I'll give him attention. There you go. So I'm an animal person. We'll read some more of these. We got another one, please. Dreadnought Consultancy says, Michael, you and Tim are the best out yes can you please clarify your thoughts on mccarthyism we're all taught it was a terrible injustice but i've heard you briefly express a contrary opinion he was a turd but was he right interesting this is going to be a big part of my next book the white pill um we are what's amazing

is the one time in history where the left got canceled is regarded as a crime on a level of genocide right oh man what they talk about mccarthyism the house on american activities committee was the house mccarthy was the senator uh what we and this is something they never figured richard nixon for alger hiss was a big shot i believe the state department and he was exposed as a soviet spy they're trying to make it out that people were fired for, like, voting communist. These were people who were secretly involved in preparing for the violent overthrow of our government, seizure of all property, which inevitably led to deaths at orders of millions of people, under orders from a foreign government.

This isn't a mere difference of opinion. And then the only bad thing that happened to them is that they couldn't get jobs in Hollywood. And the fact that the people named, you laugh, but the fact that the people named names and pointed them out was regarded even 60 years later as unspeakable evil. Who's the evil? The people who are saying we should have the Hol holodomor the gulags and the secret police here or the ones who are like you know what let's just stick to the democrat to the

democratic socialism he is really i talk about this a lot in my next book bucko is chugging your water let him yeah he's thirsty huh yeah so visidia says wish i had good news but for wonder woman 1984 the villain is based on trump yeah that's what i said in an interview producer described the villain as desperate self-obsessed fraudulent entrepreneur who runs a business selling the american dream i'm glad someone's courageous enough to make fun of donald trump i know it's really been a niche was it you who tweeted that they were like the most interesting uh personality trait a person could have is hating donald trump no that's a great line yeah that's amazing yeah i's very rare. Vanishingly rare. I can't remember.

Maybe Will Chamberlain stole it from somebody. I apologize for whoever said that because I'm not giving credit. I can't remember. I saw it on Twitter. I love it.

I really don't care though. Wonder Woman 1984 looks pretty good. I love the trailer. I like the music. Just because they say it's based on, the villain is based on Trump

doesn't mean it's going to be a bad movie. What about they try to cancel Gal Gadot because she's Israeli? I mean, these people are out of their minds. Well, they'll always find some reason to cancel somebody or something. It doesn't, you know.

I would cancel her just for that video she made at the beginning of the lockdown. Oh, I didn't see it. Oh, the. Social justice. Imagine. Yes. Oh, my gosh. James Degrees says, Michael, please use this money to buy something that brings you joy.

Oh, that's possible. How much was it? 20 bucks. 25 bucks. Okay. Thank you, James. And if possible, something that simultaneously you joy. Oh, that's possible. How much was it? $20. $25. Okay, thank you, James. And if possible, something that simultaneously annoys your haters. Very cool. Oh, I just bought

some toothpaste, which I'm not allowed to mention probably on this show. If you go to my Instagram, instagram.com slash Michael Malice, there's some toothpaste which is not politically correct. Did he like eat a bunch of salty food? Because he is chugging. He's trying to bond with me. He likes to drink and socialize. I'm pretty cool. For some reason, he only drinks to bond with me yeah he is i'm pretty cool for

some reason he only drinks our water because i think he trusts it like i'm not drinking that bowl you gave me i'm drinking what you're drinking oh you're a good boy it's a poison tester you're a good boy bucko here we go the one says you say them um you say media is diverting us when it's you the whole time everyone wants to know why we did m night shamalan right this super chat everyone wants to know why we call bon Did M. Night Shyamalan write this super chat? What it's defending. Everyone wants to know why we call boneless chicken wings chicken wings when in fact they are just chicken nuggets. We want answers.

I don't call them that anymore. Saucy nugs. We call them saucy nugs. That's right. As we did today. I can witness that that happened today. Yes. Are you familiar with the video or no?

No. It's incredible. But they're good. So this guy goes into a city council meeting. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then somebody laughs and he goes, excuse me. I'm trying to read.

Was it a troll or was he on the spectrum? He's trolling. Okay. He's trolling. His dad was on the council. Oh, got it. Got it. And then he's like, just for the record, that's my son.

Yeah. Everyone laughed. Okay. The outrage is funny, but he makes a good point. Yeah. They're just chicken tenders. Yes. I'd vote for him.

It's the same thing. No, no, no. Wait. No, they're not tenders. Tenders are elongate and they're finger shaped. Sure. That's true. You can. Saucy nugs. They're nugs. They're chicken tenders yes it's the same no no wait i i know they're not tenders tenders are elongate and they're finger-shaped that's true you can saucy nugs they're nugs they're not tenders they're not tenders i like how he's like we can call them saucy nugs or trash no i like them they're delicious i know i i prefer saucy nugs over uh wings yeah it's just me i don't like wings because a gristle right exactly you gotta like navigate how to eat it now give me

that chunk of meat and i'll just pop it in my mouth. I thought you weren't an elitist, Tim. I am not an elitist. Well, if you prefer the nuggets to the wings, you're clearly an elitist. Look at this guy.

What's he doing? What a good boy. Best member of the cast. Hey, buddy. He's just trying to pressure us. Dan Nordoff says, just out of myself as a Trump supporter

today on Facebook, I'm probably going to lose some friends. No, you're not. You're not losing any friends. You today on Facebook. I'm probably going to lose some friends. No, you're not. You're not losing any friends. You're losing people who know you. They're not real friends. People who you knew.

I'm just sick of hearing the lies on the left constantly repeated. Thanks, Tim, for all that you do from the lone wolf in Canada. Oh, he's a Trump supporter. Stay in your asshole country. Canada's not real. How are you a Trump supporter? You're from a garbage place garbage place this is canada did you know that most canadians live within like 90 miles of the it's like

it's yeah and their population is like 30 million 37 yeah it's crazy it's like california yeah so weird you love this water buddy let's see bass master says you missed the biggest story of the day tim the release of tony hawk pro skater one and two remaster oh that was out today oh snap because i've got it. I'll download it right now. I got the demo. Tony Hawk's great. Good game. I like Skater XL. I think Skater XL is more fun as a skateboarding game, but Tony Hawk is an excellent arcade game.

We're going over for this? Yes. And for the cats. We're just trying to pester you, Bucko. That's true. We got a lot of super chats, though. Let's do them. Step on the keyboard. What is he doing? What a sweet boy. Let's do them. Step on the keyboard. I bring the money. We're not going to. What is he doing? Oh, what a sweet boy. He's marking his territory.

I'm going to bite that. That's what he's doing. What are you doing? He's being sweet. He's shoving his face into the microphone. Don't walk on my keyboard, though. You'll turn the stream off. All right, let's see.

Okay, so we do the. J-Dog says the censoring of Joe Rogan is false. Alex Jones responded. Just go to 2020 Election Center and search Spotify first video. You might need to make an update video. Interesting. Well, I didn't think it was legit that they were censoring Rogan or anything like that.

I mean, maybe it came off that way. That's my bad. I basically, you heard the story. Of course, Michaela was on that list, and she was on my show this week, and she's like, why am I on this list? Michaela Peterson. The list of episodes that didn't make it to Spotify. I think the story's overhyped because Joe's a big target. Of course. And they're like, oh, you hypocrite.

Billions of dollars. Oh, that one too. But they're also calling him a hypocrite. Like, oh, you don't believe in cancel culture, but you cancel all these people. And he probably didn't do anything. Right, of course. But there was a pattern.

Do you know why the episodes were not? I do not have a reason. And there was very clearly a pattern. Other than Michaela, which was just odd. Yeah. This person saying it's not true, I guess we'll see i think mikaela got re-edited though she did immediately alex publicly came out uh there's a few others who were there which are just i think steve aoki was one of them wasn't he it was something really weird it was very weird yeah

i could be chris delia i know was one of them oh yeah there's a reason commander 232 says tim i really liked your guest tonight a person who truly knows his history i myself as far back as the first grade preferred history books over a Disney book at the time. Those that forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Ask him about black Americans in the revolution. I don't know.

I only go, like, modern. Sorry, dude. Well, I'll look up. I'll look into that. I've been doing, actually, for the last year and a half, a deep dive in the Harlem Renaissance, which I know more about than almost anyone now. Oh, very cool. Yeah. All right.

Let's see. So we did read a lot of these. What a great question. Thank you. Let's see. Let's go first. Can I say something about that question? Because it really speaks to something I think is very important, how the right has failed.

The idea that black soldiers during the Revolutionary War is something that only black people are interested in is insane. Because this is something that's fascinating to everyone. What was it like to be a black person in New York in 1776? None of us have any idea. Any of us would be fascinated to know that story. black history and gay history and women's history to elements of the far left, they are left exposed and allow the cathedral to propagate lies about this history because they are like, well, this isn't my world. It is your world. History belongs to any of us. I'm very inspired by, for example, Zora Neale Hurston, who was one of the Harlem Renaissance writers. She's a black woman from

the South. I can still read her biography and be like this person's a badass and she challenges my thinking yeah and and no one would argue otherwise unless you're completely deranged so this is a great example of how conservatives are losing because conservatives that's best is studying lessons of history and applying today and there's huge swaths where they're like well this is just lefty craft trap no yeah i don't like that okay justin weiser justin weiser says north korea's response to bite to a victory versus trump's victory oh okay i'm the north korea guy so this is hard to suss out i think north korea would see biden as possibly very very weak uh they called him you know all

sorts of names at the other hand they also had had called for death penalty for Donald Trump at a certain point. They would push back against Biden. On the other hand, he voted for the war. And my contacts have told me that basically the State Department vis-a-vis North Korea, their strategy going forward, at least in the near future, is to pretend North Korea doesn't exist. That's extremely disappointing. One of the things I talk about in Dear Reader, I talk about constantly why I'm wearing this shirt. Everyone in North Korea, when they leave their house, 25 million, 30 million people,

have to wear a lapel pin over their heart with the leaders at all times. So that's the level of, there's so many layers to the oppression in that country. So this is kind of my thing, just a little bit of solidarity for these poor, poor people. So I'm very – I mean I hope desperately that if Trump is reelected, he makes it as much a priority as he did in his first term. His first meeting was with Xi Jinping at Mar-a-Lago talking about North Korea.

That gave me so much hope because during the Obama years, they didn't do anything. And I can't really blame Obama because it's such a complicated issue. I thought Trump crossing the DMZ into North Korea was incredible. Yes, it was very, very incredible. If you all want to cry, there's many North Korean, excuse me, Korean families that have been separated for decades because of the Korean War. And there's videos where

the evil North Korean government lets them see their family members once in a while and they meet for a day. The North Koreans have a minder and they separate out. You watch these videos, brothers who haven't seen each other for 40 years, you are going to start crying hysterically. It's the most touching humanity you can imagine. Yeah, man.

Trump walked into North Korea with no security. Yeah. They could have. So did I, though, to be fair. Well, you're not the president of the United States. Neither are you. And I'd be worried about crossing over there. But for Trump to do that, to me, was very symbolic and important. Oh, yes, of course it was, yeah.

But the media attacked him for it. These people are so sick. It really gets me angry. When they made that video for Kim Jong-un about being like, look how great. You could be the one who frees your people. And they're laughing because they're like, this is like a sales ad. I'm like, yeah, you're selling some with nuclear weapons and concentration camps to try to do the right thing. That's what diplomacy means.

Of course it's going to be cheesy and corny. Who are you talking to? Horrible, horrible people. When Trump tries to avoid conflict with, say, Russia or China and they mock him for it. I know. I'm like, do you want nuclear war? The president's not going to be like, F that guy, F this guy. He's going to try and keep things

calmed down. For eight years, we were told that George W. Bush is the worst president ever because he doesn't know how to do diplomacy. He's just a cowboy firing, you know, armies and missiles. And then you have a president who's trying to do diplomacy like, what an idiot, blah, blah, blah. You people are... The level of contempt I have for

these people cannot be overstated. And with good reason, because we're talking about millions of people who are slaves. Yes. Oh, yeah. Let's see. 117, BTN says, Re, Mr. Malice's idea on employment. I note Elon Musk stated at a recent Neuralink presentation was actually a recruitment drive.

No degree needed, just engineers and programmers to learn on the job. Okay, everyone's saying buck off our president. He's under under the table now and he's poking me with his foot he's like he's hit he's you know you know the cat thing where they go like that yeah he's tapping me and he's yelling down there because we're we're 13 minutes over so he knows he's like what is this why do i have to wait for you spaceman chris says i've always wondered what would happen if i asked hispanic demos why don't mexico's stay in mexico and fix mexico they got great culture and art but i never go over there even though i look uh i look like them for fear of my son getting kidnapped by cartel oh yikes

there's i mean there's there's crazy stories about that stuff of course there's no joke yeah when uh anonymous challenged them and then you know what happened no a couple people weren't you know the guy fox mask yeah of course yeah a couple people i i may be misremembering this has been a long time so you can look this up but apparently anonymous was like we're going to challenge you and then some corpses were hanging from a highway sign with the masks on or whatever oh my god yeah they don't they don't mess around these people no no they want you to know that they're in charge yeah Yeah, yeah. Yeah, man. All right, let's see. Connor says, point of personal privilege.

Please don't clap. It hurts my ears and I can't reach the volume button in position. I am sitting right now. I'm so excited Michael's on today. Is this the opposite of Jeb Bush? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Please don't clap.

Please don't clap. Jeb followed me on my birthday. You know, I woke up at like 5 a.m. or 6 a.m. to go to the bathroom because I'm a senior citizen. And I checked Twitter quickly. And in the verify tab, I woke up at like 5 a.m. or 6 a.m. to go to the bathroom because I'm a senior citizen and I checked Twitter quickly and in the verify tab it says Jeb Bush followed you and I'm like, and I'm sleepy enough.

I'm like, what? And I looked and it was really him and I DM'd with him a little bit and it was like a very, very surreal moment and I asked him on the show.

He didn't want to do it but I don't blame him. Oh, man. All right. So I think we've about exhausted our time. So do you want to mention your socials one more time?

Sure. Just whatever you want to mention. Twitter.com slash Michael Malice and malice.locals.com and i've got a nice little sleeper cell going where you don't have to worry about your facebook friends what's that i was like be careful about those jokes yeah jokes how could i be talking about sleeper cells look at my hat clearly a silly and not a threat to anyone. Clearly insane. Not real. So if you go to malice.locals.com, we've got a great community. And it's free to join.

People have to chip in to contribute and comment. And Instagram is Michael Malice and YouTube.com slash Michael Malice official. Right on. My only question for everybody is why have you not smashed that like button? It has to be a smash. You can't press it. No, it really does help. He's right you know it does it does i'm not joking you're absolutely right yeah and uh but thank you everybody for the super chats you know uh we try to get to as many as possible you can follow me on twitter instagram and parlor at timcast it's right there above me and you can check out my other youtube channels for for more content there's

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