Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #130 - Leaked Tapes Show Trump "Downplaying" COVID, Media Smears Omit Key Context

Episode Date: September 10, 2020

Trump's handling of Covid is under scrutiny, but he's not backing down from the culture war, the new discrimination is becoming overt with a new university cafe for only white people, for the first time there appears to be an anti-racist majority in the US, Colin Kaepernick makes Madden even worse than it has been, and the left's new non-theistic religion is devoid of actual moral value. And finally, Twitter infuriates people on another level.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Donald Trump apparently gave a multitude of interviews with Bob Woodward, and now all of these these leaked audio tapes are coming out. I don't know if you can necessarily call them leaked, but they're getting leaked in snippets. And then all of a sudden they're just the smear machine is going insane. Donald Trump downplayed the coronavirus as though we don't know exactly why he did it, Because the story, especially particularly the one from Washington Post, straight up has Trump quoted saying, well, I don't want to create a panic. Wow. So when you actually read the news, you're like, hey, that's actually good of Donald Trump. He didn't want everyone to panic. He didn't want to cause

undue stress to people, but he knew it was going to be going to be bad. And that's why he took action early. The craziest thing about all of the covid stuff to me is that I don't I don't know what they're proposing Trump have done. Like they're saying Trump did a bad job. And I'm like, OK, well, what should he have done? He banned travel from in a bunch of different ways. He put out guidelines for the states and then the states did their thing and they blamed him for it. If I recall correctly, it wasn't Donald Trump who put sick COVID patients into nursing homes, resulting in thousands of elderly being killed. And recently, someone apparently was flying a plane over New York that said Cuomo killed Nana. That wasn't Trump. But I'll tell you what, the Democrats are absolutely going after

low information voters, people who are going to see the smears and they're going to believe it and think Donald Trump was doing this on purpose. And I'll tell you what, you want to criticize the president on COVID. I'm more than happy to hear it. I've even said in the past, I don't think he did the best possible thing anyone could have. But then again, what should he or could he have done? And that's the question. If you can give me an answer to that, I'll have a conversation about it. But for the most part, nobody's actually offered up anything other than Trump violating the 10th Amendment going in. And anyway, I'm going to rant on this too much. Ladies and gentlemen, I do have some bad news. And unfortunately, Will Chamberlain couldn't join us today.

He, you know, he had to cancel. Hopefully we will reschedule just some personal stuff. And, you know, hopefully we'll have him back on soon because Will is a very intelligent lawyer, Trump supporter, who really could have helped us walk through this stuff. But within, within this story is something even more important, in my opinion. Donald Trump referring to white privilege as drinking the Kool-Aid. I heard that and I swooned. I went, oh, I fell over.

I was like, amazing. I love it. Well, we don't have Will, but joining me and Sour Patch Lids today is our buddy Ian Crossland. What's up, homie? Yeah. How's it going, man? Greatness. So I think a lot of you guys know Ian.

And, you know, Will couldn't make it. So I was like, Ian, come sit in the chair. We need to. It's better than ever. Yeah, it's better than ever. We need to complain about this weird intersectional lunacy. So we'll definitely we'll read through a lot of what they're saying about Trump and the smear piece, because this is like the big story of the day.

But before we do, first, make sure you smash that like button, subscribe, hit the notification bell. And I'd like to remind everybody that just about a week or so ago, a far left Antifa Black Lives Matter guy with a big old fist tattoo on his neck stalked some Trump supporters and then put a bullet in the chest, two bullets, killing a Trump supporter. So the reason I'm bringing this up is because they're trying to make us ignore what's happening with the riots. And we're going to be talking a lot about this crazy intersectionality stuff because, you know, Trump brings up you're drinking the Kool-Aid. I'm absolutely impressed to hear this, that in a candid interview from like quite some time ago, Donald Trump was like, white privilege, you're drinking the Kool-Aid. And I'm like,

here, here, even though I actually kind of agree with some of the, you know, some of the ideas around the social justice stuff. I think it's much better that you nip it in the bud and you push back and you say no to it than accept what these lunatics are doing. Because the next story is University of Michigan, Dearborn. They created a whites only cafe. I'm assuming it's some kind of like online portal thing they were doing quite literally. Now, to be fair, it's not whites only. It's non POC, but basically means white only. And this is this is the logical conclusion of this fringe ideology. And if we don't push back on it, we are literally going to go back in time to segregation. I've been saying this for a while. I said it back in like 2015 or 2016 when there was like some graduation ceremony that was black only. We've seen this at the Black Lives Matter protests throughout the

country. I've personally witnessed this. And when I saw that, I'm like, that's freaky. Well, then we get these mainstream media articles that are saying things like it's not racist to have black only spaces because, you know, marginalized people want to have their own safe space. The logical conclusion, of course, Brett Weinstein. They told him the white people have to leave the college. Now we're seeing more universities say the same thing. And the narrative that's emerging is that we have an anti-racist majority when, in fact, these people who claim to be anti-racist are quite literally racist. It is a semantic game. So you know what? Instead of just ranting on literally every story we have, we'll just jump into the first one. So let's go for it. And again, hit that like button. So here's the big story that's sweeping the

nation. Woodward book. Trump says he knew coronavirus was deadly and worse than the flu while intentionally misleading Americans. I'm not going to play any games. I'm not even going to bury the lead. I'm going to go straight down and show you the quote. I still like playing it down because I don't want to create a panic. And there it is. We're done. Thanks for hanging out, everybody. We'll see. I'm just kidding. Trump admitted to Woodward on March 19th that he deliberately minimized the danger. I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down because I don't want to create a panic. I have tremendous respect for that. What should you have done? I think you did the right thing. Well, I think that panic is our worst enemy. We

talked about this a long time ago. You know, whatever the virus, whatever the situation, if people start freaking out and buying all the toilet paper, there's going to be issues. They were fighting over toilet paper. And you had Trump saying things weren't that bad. Right. So the question when they basically when they told people not to wear masks, they didn't want to run on the masks. That's kind of where I start to wonder, OK, I know you don't want to instill panic, but how many lies is it OK to tell to circumvent panic? I think the I think a lot of the one of the big reasons why they were saying don't buy

masks, I need a mask, is because it was it was not necessarily just about a run on the masks. It was about creating a panic, convincing people you needed a mask would have them be like, for what you know and then they would panic in other ways people don't realize how uh you know i i don't know if you remember all the memes that came out where people were like oh no the economy and there was like the one where the earth was blowing up i think elon musk elon musk posted it it's like an astronaut on the moon and there was like a comet blasting through the earth and the earth was

exploding and he was like the economy and there was one where dinosaurs were like walking around and meteors were falling down and the dinosaurs were like the economy the funny thing is people don't realize what the economy means do you know do you know what the word economy means eco something to do with the earth it comes from the greek oikonomia meaning household management i learned that from a rap news video from like 10 years ago or something. Yeah, anyway, I'm pretty sure that's correct. Oikonomia or something like that. And the general idea is that when people are saying like the economy, oh no,

you're talking about quite literally the organizational structure that guarantees food travels from the farm to the table. And when that breaks down, and it did, what happened? Supply chain disruption, shortages, people lose their jobs. A lot of it had to do with the lockdown for sure. But we were seeing like dairy farms just dumping all the milk. We saw farms just shoveling everything into the dirt. And that's why the economy matters. So yeah, Trump did the right thing. I read this story and they frame it like he intentionally misled Americans. Come on, man. I mean, you can't tell people like he intentionally misled America Americans.

Come on, man. I mean, you can't tell people everything. It's not his job. You know, we have secrecy for a reason as much as it can become dangerous. I think you have to, you know, we have walls because you can't show everybody everything you're doing. You know, people make plans in private because sometimes people want to walk around naked in their house, man. Oftentimes. And if you, if you open, oftentimes,

I mean, for real, and if you open up the blinds, you can get in trouble. It's true. Literally, it's illegal to expose yourself. Yes. Yes. So, so we have blinds for that. I'm actually, I lean very, very much towards transparency. I think in the past, a lot of people would say that I was like a transparency absolutist, but that's just not true. But I'm very, very much for public transparency in the sense, if it's happening in the public, the public has a right to know. There are private things, especially when it pertains. And so this does include a lot of government functions. But I do draw the line at, if we just published everything that we did,

that we wouldn't exist as a country. No, we'd be undermined. We would undermine ourselves, it's almost like. Well, our foreign adversaries would take all the information, use it, create data sets and machine learning prediction models, and they would undermine, like, yeah, they would be able to track and predict and just disrupt literally everything we did.

We'd be under complete control. And the monarchy never would have been overthrown. George Washington was totally into secrecy. I mean, he was great at spying and i mean i've watched uh national treasure tell me more with uh with uh nicholas cage i didn't see it you didn't see it it looked okay it's the one where nicholas cage like the founding fathers had like secret gold or something hidden under dc or whatever do they uh i was gonna ask for a spoiler. Like finds a secret book. It's an old. It's there's two of them.

They need to make a third one because it's really hokey and hilarious anyway. But yeah, yeah, they definitely look. We've had code. We've had there's a reason why we want to conceal information because information is valuable in this regard. I think the issue is, could you imagine if Trump came out and said, we're all going to die? No, it'd be crazy.

They would be like, Trump created a panic. Of course. There's nothing the man could do or say. People still kind of panicked, but they didn't really panic. And that would have been devastating. Yeah. If more than toilet paper were. The conspiracy people were on it.

They already had three months supply of toilet paper and they were sitting there shining their gun, being like, you know, you all are late to the party. They got the toilet paper stocked up. Let me read a little a little bit of this just to get some more some more context into what they're saying. They say President Trump's head popped up during a top secret intelligence briefing in the Oval Office on January 28th when the discussion turned to the coronavirus outbreak in China. Quote, this will be the biggest national security threat you face in your presidency, National Security Advisor Robert C. O'Brien told Trump, according to a new book by Washington Post associate editor Bob Woodward. This is going to be the roughest thing you face. Matthew Pottinger,

the deputy national security advisor, agreed. He told the president that after reaching contacts in China, it was evident that the world faced a health emergency on par with the flu pandemic of 1918, which killed an estimated 50 million people worldwide. Ten days later, Trump called Woodward and revealed that he thought the situation was far more dire than what he had been saying publicly. So Trump is candidly speaking to journalists. This was crazy to me. They did a poll and they asked Republicans, is the number of deaths okay?

It's hard to iterate properly, I suppose. But the idea was, are you know with the job that was done and they basically said we find the amount of dead to be acceptable in the in in the context of we were told it was going to be like six million oh wow i remember i was doing videos and i was like wow the new york times is predicting could be from like two to six million this is crazy it's like a massive percentage of the population blah blah blah and then it turns out And then it turns out we're in 180 something thousand. And that's horrifying. And that's really bad. But look at this.

Trump was warned it could be 50 million people. That's crazy. Worldwide. It's terrifying. But who like I get that you got to go worst case scenario. Some people's jobs are to extrapolate worst case scenario and plan for the worst case scenario, but that will cause crazy panic. And they wanted him to do it because that's a conclusion that's being drawn here. Here's some quotes. You just breathe the air and that's how it passed, Trump said in a February 7th call. And so that's a very tricky one. It's a very delicate one.

It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus. This is deadly stuff. The president repeated for emphasis. At that time, Trump was telling the nation that the virus was no worse than a seasonal flu, predicting it would soon disappear and insisting that the U.S. government had it totally under control. It would be several weeks before he would publicly acknowledge the virus was no ordinary flu and that it could be transmitted through the air. Trump admitted to Woodward on March 19th is where he said, I don't want to create a panic. Aside from exploring Trump's handling of the pandemic, Woodward's new book, Rage, covers race relations, diplomacy with North Korea, and a range of other issues that have

arisen during the past two years. The book also includes brutal assessments of Trump's conduct from former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, former Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats, and others. The book is based in part on the 18 on-the-record interviews Woodward conducted with the president between December and July. Woodward writes that other quotes in the book were acquired through deep background conversations with people in which information is divulged and exchanges recounted without the people being named. I'm not going to read through all of this because the, the, the gist of the,

you know, I get, we have the gist of things, but I just got to point out, man, you, have you heard about the, some of the things that Trump has done recently?

Some, I enlightened me. The Israeli peace deal. Yeah. Israel UAE. Yeah. Then there was the Kosovo Serbia peace deal, which include recognition of Israel. And now, now he's going to be drawing down our troop numbers by about 2000

in Iraq back, bringing troops back. That's good, right? It's great, dude. Great. So what do you consider yourself politically? I'm very moderate. I don't think I don't play party politics. I just look for the smartest guy in the in the woman in the room and try and support them. You were saying like a week ago that you didn't like Trump. You were like, no, he's a bombast. He yells. He says things like really crude, you know, and he alienates people by talking about the Democrat. The Democratic mayor is alienating 40 million people.

So that and that causes anger amongst those people. And then that's not what we need right now. We need like cohesion. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people who really support trump will push back on that but i i gotta tell you man i've been in i've like i've been in uber rides i've talked to regular people and i hear the same thing often they're like i really like what he's doing for the country but i wish he wouldn't tweet so much

or i wish he would kind of chill out things like that and it's tough i i wonder if it's because he really wants to fire up his really loyal base. Yeah, probably. And keep that fire burning. Yeah. So he's very raw. Or maybe it's just who Trump is. You know, he is a bombastic fella.

I don't know. People that know him say that he's exactly like that in person. But it seems like a character. No, no. You know why I think it's real? He did 18 on-the-record interviews with Woodward. He straight up was talking about what he was doing, what was going on. He was very candid and transparent.

It's interesting because The Intercept wrote this article a while ago saying Trump is the least honest and the most honest president we've ever had. Good one. And they mention it's because Trump will lie about a lot of things. Like, for example, he tweeted, I never called John McCain a loser. most honest president we've ever had. Good one. And they mention it's because Trump will lie about a lot of things. Like, for example, he tweeted, I never called John McCain a loser. But he did. He tweeted John McCain.

He tweeted in an article, it was like, Donald Trump, John McCain is a loser. He wasn't referencing McCain's service, though. And I think that's what he was... I don't necessarily want to give Trump the benefit of the doubt. Like, I can't assume what his intent was. He straight up said, I never called him a loser. He did. And it's weird, silly things like that, where it's like, is that even that important? You could have just been like, look, I called the guy a loser because he lost in 2008, but I have nothing but respect for his service. And oh, he was literally calling

him a loser because he lost the election. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So someone brought it up. He was being interviewed and he was like, nah, he's a loser. He lost. And they're like, he's a war hero. And Trump was like, nah, he's not a war a war hero he got caught i prefer people who didn't get that's brutal it is it is brutal yeah but you know what there's a really funny uh comment i heard where someone said something like people hated john mccain conservatives hated john mccain more than they were concerned about trump's statements on like military service yeah i wasn't a big mccain fan are you did you like him no i'm not into warmongers in general right yeah exactly that guy's smiling smiling pictures of the people he's like we're gonna go blow stuff up well i i would rather have somebody who lies about tiny things than someone who lies

about big things like obama did oh yeah absolutely the tpp doing it with a smile that's that can be much more insidious but here's here's what basically what the intercept brought up was trump i love this interview he just announced we're doing this big weapons deal with saudi That can be much more insidious. But here's what basically what the intercept brought up was Trump. I love this interview. He just announced we're doing this big weapons deal with Saudi Arabia. And that was like he just said it, you know, and he's honest. I mean, he is he honest or is he a liar or is it is it both? He's not.

He's mostly he's mostly honest, right? Like these protests. Yes, I think he's mostly peaceful. I think it's really hard to break down. But I think Donald Trump lies about some of the stupidest things ever that he should just be upfront about. Right. But then he's really open and honest about a bunch of other things that he's not supposed

to be. I know. Like, this is crazy. They're dragging Trump for being honest with a journalist. This is nuts. They complain that he lies to journalists all the time and you can't trust him. Then when he's honest, this is, what do they expect?

Yeah, this is just people that want him down. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what, man. You know what my favorite thing about this Woodward releases? Trump telling Woodward that he drank the Kool-Aid. Dude, I wonder if he even knows where that's from. Drinking the Kool-Aid? Yeah, which is from the Jonestown Massacre.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the guy's name? I don't remember the guy's name. You know the guy's name? I don't. I can look it up. Took them all to Jonestown and then had them all drink Kool-Aid laced with cyanide, tearing babies away from their mothers.

That's nightmarish, dude. Yeah, it really is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That happened in our lifetime, right? Was it the 70s, maybe? Jonestown? Was it? Something, maybe the 80s.

1978. Really? November 18th? 1978. Really? November 18, 1978. And they all drank Kool-Aid. Mass murder, suicide of members of the California-based People's Temple cult.

That was Jim Jones. Yeah. I didn't realize it was that long ago. What was that thing that happened in the 90s where they all thought they were going to go

on a spaceship or something? Oh my gosh. They still have their website up. I remember that. They have a website from the super 90s. Wow. They maintain it. Its wow oh my gosh yeah jones don't want to ride the tail hail bop i don't know who it was but their website they left two of their members alive to maintain their website i remember wow this was yeah i'm gonna have to look it up i don't remember who it was or what

cult they were with you said the name of the cult earlier, whatever it was. Heaven's Gate? I think it was Heaven's Gate. Yeah, let me see if I can find the site. I might tweet it out. Because I remember watching Family Guy did an episode about it where Meg joins a cult. HeavensGate.com? No, she's the guy. Let me see if I can see it.

Hold on. For the people that are listening, the context is that, yeah, everyone's saying Heaven's Gate, is that Donald Trump said to Bob Woodward, what is this? This is an amazing 90 site, and I wish you guys could see my screen. Oh, throw it up. It's got like a talisman, and it's moving, and at the top it says red alert. What's the website? Heavensgate.com.

We are going there. Heavensgate.com. Yep, we're going to Heaven's Gate, guys. It'll be great. For the record, I don't think you can ride the tail of a comet. I don't think so either. Oh, there we go. It's a GeoCities site. Oh, Heaven's Gate, guys. It'll be great. For the record, I don't think you can ride the tail of a comet. I don't think so either. Pull it up. There we go.

It's a GeoCities site. Oh, snap. Dude, wow. Yeah, you're welcome. You guys make websites, right? I mean, I used to make Flash websites. I used to actually do all the programming in Flash. And you're right.

It's HaleBop. Yeah, look at that. HaleBop? That's freakish. Oh, this is weird. Oh, and all these people are dead now. It's creepy. Except for the two who are maintaining the website, I guess.

As far as I can tell, they're still maintaining it. Okay. Anyway, the context is it's not particularly relevant, I guess, where drinking the Kool-Aid comes from. Yes. But it is a thing. And so what happened is this is actually, I think this is amazing. Check this out from Forbes. Wow, no. In audio

tape, Trump rejects notion he has white privilege. Good for you. Good, sir. Good for you, Trump. I'm glad he's doing this. President Trump flat out rejected the notion he has benefited from white privilege during an interview with Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward and then responded with contempt, according to audio clips reported by the Post Wednesday. And we will play you the audio clip. We will play them for you because I love it. Let's do it. Woodward conducted 18 on-the-record interviews. We know this.

During one interview on June 19th, as protests broke out across the country over George Floyd, Woodward asked Trump whether they both were isolated and caged from understanding the anger and pain of black Americans as two white men of the same generation with similarly privileged upbringings. No, Trump said before responding in a mocking tone. You really drank the Kool-Aid, didn't you? Woo. I love it. Just listen, you. Trump went on expressing contempt. Wow. No, I don't feel that at all. Trump went on to tout economic statistics for black Americans pre-pandemic, including the low black unemployment rate, before repeating a commonly used claim that he's done more for the black community than any

president since Abraham Lincoln. During a separate interview on race on June 22nd, Trump somewhat shifted his tone, acknowledging there was systemic or institutional racism everywhere, but that there was probably less in the U.S. than most places. Trump is right. Yeah, I think so. You know what, man? I really wish that he was less bombastic, less loud and abrasive. Because I'm like, he's saying populist things that need to be said that moderate, regular people want to hear.

We're bringing the troops back. Okay, this white privilege stuff is, you know, no way you're drinking the Kool-Aid. We should talk about majority privilege because I think really it's the misnomer is that they're making it a racial issue when it comes down to the majority of the country you're in. People that look like you. And unfortunately, it seems to come down to the way things look. There's a lot here to break down. But first, we are blessed with the actual recording of what happened, and hopefully

you'll be able to hear this properly. Wait, it is not playing. Let's try that again. Okay, let's see if this plays now, and we'll start this over. Hey, but let me ask you this. I mean, we share one thing in common. We're white, privileged, who my father was a lawyer and a judge in Illinois, and we know what your dad did. And do you have any sense that that privilege has isolated and put you in a cave to a certain extent, as it put me and I think lots of white privileged people in a cave, and that we have to work our way out of it to understand the anger and the pain

particularly black people feel in this country. No, you really drank the Kool-Aid, didn't you? Listen to you. Wow. No, I don't feel that at all. I love that. You really drank the Kool-Aid, didn't you? Yes, they did.

They all did. They're losing it. All right. Now, listen. There is something to this idea of white privilege, but it's what you just mentioned. We've talked about this before. It's majority privilege. If you're in China, you are going to be able to navigate the country much more easily, knowing the language, being easily identifiable as Chinese. We don't call that Chinese privilege. In any country, that would

be the case. In fact, in some countries, like notably in Africa, you could you could literally be the same ethnic background, but have a different tribe. And then you have tribal privilege. It's really just about the dominant group. And so what's happened is this Kool-Aid drinking thing that's that's happening. And I'm glad to see Trump is pushing back on it because people are insane. It's it's it's in the US. It's fair to say this country for a long time, it's an overwhelming white majority and still is to this day. So there is something to what they're pointing out,

but it is extremely racist the way they're going about it. Sure, if you have like what they call like an anglicized name, then you're more likely to get callbacks and stuff like that. This is true. And there have been actors who have changed their name and made them more like anglicized name then you're more likely to get callbacks and stuff like that this is true and and there have been actors who have changed their name and made them more like anglicized i think cal penn do you know the actor uh yeah that's pen from pen and gillette right no no no cal penn is the guy from hailed in kumar oh okay he didn't tell us it no no no i guess my short answer go to white castle i think i've seen it he He's the Indian guy. Apparently his first name is awesome. Yeah, he's cool, dude. He was also on House.

Apparently his name is Kalpin. Like Kalpin is one word. It's his first name. So he changed it so that his name was Kalpin and got more callbacks. There is something to familiarity. The problem I have with this is that the conclusion they come to when they talk about white privilege would be like the homeless guy you know sitting in his own filth with no teeth is privileged and has power and is an oppressor right over like a wealthy i don't know like latino dude who's like working at a law firm so it's like there's two things going on at once there's majority privilege at work and

then there's this coming out of slavery thing 150 years ago where people are being dumped like the the african-american great-grandfathers and stuff came had no money no education so they're behind it they were at a disadvantage it's yeah yeah but it's it's it's more than that too i mean yeah at least this was at least these two factors so so here here's my problem and this is well actually let me preface this with the context of what trump is saying right here and why i really really like it i can't believe that I have to actually look to a Republican president for accurately giving us the space to deal this problem in a legitimate way, especially when a lot of conservatives wouldn't even agree with me on many of these issues. You can't have these conversations with the left. They've determined already that you're white, you're an oppressor, and it's all this ridiculous, culty, racist

nonsense. So here's the things that I've identified. And I think this is fair and makes a lot of sense. There's historical racism. This used to be what was systemic racism, but they've changed the definition. So I don't even know what people are talking about anymore. The general idea being that we so it wasn't just about ending slavery and talking about anymore. The general idea being that we, so it wasn't just about ending slavery and then having a bunch of people with inherited wealth and a bunch of people with nothing. It was that after that, you had the Democrats working on all of these restrictions and, you know, the Jim Crow era and things like this segregation that actually created a lot of problems and made things worse. It actually made sure that not only did they have no wealth, but they had no access to any of the existing infrastructure. And that was the

Democratic Party. The Klan, for instance, when they went around and the horrible things the Klan did, and then finally we shut them down and got rid of them. It seems like the Republicans had a lot going on shutting down the racists. So the issue is, the way I viewed it years ago when I was talking about systemic racism is that if we create laws, like I use Ferguson and St. Louis as a really good example because I did a documentary on it. The way St. Louis was designed had a lot to do with white flight. So people were leaving the cities, going to suburbs, incorporating, and then basically

saying no new residents. And so it created a whole bunch of tiny jurisdictions. So what ends up happening is you have the remnants of this system disproportionately affecting the black community. It is today predominantly an issue of class. That's why I believe class issues are the issues we should focus on and why I really don't like these far leftists and this weird extremist ideology. But what happens in Ferguson is that you have all these tiny cities with their own police departments. So if there's someone who's poor and their license plate is expired, they have to make a choice, go to work or quit and find a job closer. It's a tough choice.

Sometimes people are like, I have to work. But then you get pulled over. Hey, man, it's a $20 fine. You got to get your plate fixed. All right, I'll do it. You drive another two miles, you're in a new city, get pulled over again. They end up with from one infraction getting multiple infractions. Now, it is a class issue today. However, it was built from systems that were overtly racist that are illegal today. So we've seen, you're familiar with like redlining and blockbusting? No. So I can't give you the really great historical detail

on redlining, but it was generally a racist housing practice where they created specific areas where they would only allow certain minorities to go or something to that effect. I'm much more familiar with blockbusting, which is like nightmarishly racist. This is crazy stuff.

What? So what they would do is, back in the day when this was all legal and there was literal institutional racism, which for the most part, we have some of this, not in the way most people think. I'll get to that in a second.

It's affirmative action. But back then, you'd have real estate agents and like, you know, realty companies would go to a white area. They would buy it. There's a bunch of different tactics they would do. But here's what they do. They buy a house, they rent it out to a black family, and then go

and basically threaten all the white people with, you know, some kind of like racial fear and tell them, oh no, oh, there goes the neighborhood. Oh, you better sell to us. Then all of these scared white people would sell very, very quickly quickly scared their property value would go down then the real estate company would own up all the property they'd get rid of they you know eventually end the lease or evict the black family and then they'd own everything at a premium so it's all right like at a discounted rate coercion but they just didn't know that it was going on so it's like an illegal it's illegal now like ending the 80s but this was like exploiting racial fears back in the day yeah and so this created this created uh like the way i describe it to people is i guess you can call it historic racism or whatever there's remnants of those systems exist today the problem is the solution

to all of these things is totally class-based and education-based and we don't actually have those systems in systems in place to solve all of these issues. Right, so we're going to solve the class issue. I'm a big proponent of basic income. You know, you mentioned that you don't like this, you don't know where the money's coming from. It's not just that. It's idle hands are the devil's playground, man.

You look at all these rioters, these people who have nothing to do, nowhere to go. When their basic needs are met then people act a fool it's more than that though i mean that's one reason but it's ultimately about inflation like i i lean towards some kind of system in that regard tim yeah it's echoing really bad really yeah because we listened to that clip well it shouldn't there's nothing else that could cause it to echo i don't know what it is there's a really bad echo huh this is the note that i'm getting echo on the guest mic

what up oh why is that it's ian's fault echo i knew it oh man So let's see. Mic cord is loose or something? Tim, you have echo. Please fix. Why does this stuff weird? Weird stuff happen. Do you want to make sure that... Yeah. The only thing I can think of is the clip that we listened to.

But is that when the echo started? There's a background mic source or open monitor on guest mics giving a massive reverb echo. So Ian, say something. Hello. Yeah. Look at that other mic. Oh, I see. It's only...

Yep. Yeah, it's... Wait, wait. Switch back. Mm-hmm. Yes. I figured it out. Excellent.

Problem solved. Welcome. Sorry to interrupt. To the echo chamber. I think we solved it. All right. Should be good. Let's just wait and make sure everyone's...

Give us a smash that like button. Yes. It was because uh when we switch scenes there's different audio inputs yeah so we should be good now when we go over to ian yeah yeah it looks like it's fine looks like it's good when i'm on you am i getting an echo i think all right what were we just talking about awesome stuff awesome stuff yeah blockbusting redlining here's here's what i was going to say we basically created like early on two different train tracks and there's one that's a really nice fancy train and one

that's kind of just like built from the scraps from like people who just kind of pieced it together and we got rid of these laws where we're like okay everybody can freely move about these train you know the trains but it's very similar still to ending slavery where you took people who had no familial wealth and no education to pass down because they were you know they were slave they were slaves right many of them couldn't read or write and so that made it very difficult and so this definitely disadvantages minority minority communities particularly the black community do you dislike the idea of spreading like death wealth if someone dies that part of their money goes back to the government i hate that yeah it's tough though man you know i think the big problem is government has no mechanism for fixing itself that's a good point

so as much as i'd love to be like we we need social we need cooperative systems to help make sure that you know uh we're only as strong as the weakest link and so if we have weak links it's it's hurting everybody and so we really do need to figure out how to you know lift everybody up but i'll tell you this man that the hands-off decentralized approach seems to be the most effective and that's capitalism like a crypto where no humans involved in spreading it out it just automatically goes no i mean just straight up capitalism like you have money you spend stuff you figure out what works for you but the problem is when they don't spend it when they hoard the money for interest

i don't think that's uh yeah when people have unlimited access to resources and they contribute literally nothing i'm not a big fan of independent wealth. It's tough. Yeah. There's a lot of people who live off doing nothing. I was thinking about making money lose value if you don't spend it over time. That's literally what happens. Well, it actually gains you value because of interest. The system as it is today for regular people, yeah, inflation, you lose money. Oh, due to inflation. Yeah. If you've got a little bit of money in the bank, you're not making enough interest to...

But once you start making interest, then there's an incentive to hold, which I don't like. If you could somehow make like a crypto that slowly lost value unless it was traded. Well, they naturally... Cryptos naturally lose value because they... Yeah, they make more of it. Yeah, well, because they...

Well, I should say like Bitcoin, because there's a finite amount of coins, eventually it's going to deflate. But anyway, the main point about all of this is that I'm not, I think, you know, Trump is a bit harsh when he says you're drinking the Kool-Aid. I do find it hilarious. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. He's being mean to the guy.

Yeah, he deserves it. You might be right about that. Oh, can I point out this guy's book is called Rage? Yeah, it seems unbiased. It sounds like a command. Like, what's he trying to get people to do? Buy his book. Go crazy?

Like, he's telling people, rage. Anger gets clicks. Get mad. Well, I think he's, like, highlighting Trump's rage. Yeah, he's supposed to be talking about rage, but it just looks like a command. I'm just so fed up with so much of what everything about this election is and i'm tired of being threatened and coerced yeah of course the the democrats right now saying there will be violence unless you landslide joe biden screw you no way dude it's super ineffective it demeans

people makes them even like it might even make them angry to be demeaned like that. Told like you can't you can't vote for who you like because it's going to make you fail. Look at what Kanye West was saying. What he said. He was saying that throughout his career, they told him you're a Democrat. And if you don't support this, then we'll destroy you. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Well, it was I'm paraphrasing the general idea of the story. But that's certainly how a lot of people feel like people. Dude, I get hit up by tons of people in Hollywood. I say tons. Cause it's like maybe in like just, just low double digits. People who are like, dude, I love your stuff. It's amazing. And I'm like, how are you not yelling this from the mountaintops? Like, these are important things we got to talk about.

You know why? They'll get fired, man. It's, oh, that's a good point. Yeah. And it's, it's also scary to come out and speak in public if you've never done it before it's like a learned reaction i'm talking about like high profile people who have just mass celebrity dude i'm so glad i left that industry i was thinking that earlier today i was started doing youtube and it just didn't jive with that

that industry at the time because they would google my stuff and see me talking about what we're talking about now and it scared them you got to fall in line yeah they really wanted that yeah it's like that song uh there's like a really funny cartoon i once saw it's a music video for the song it's like i think it's called little boxes and it's someone did an animation and it's basically like little kids with round like there's little like stick figure people they're not really stick figures but then they go into a factory where a giant clamp smashes their heads into cubes and they come out like you know just like zombies dude i feel like that's what public school systems do exactly they went to the schools that's why this is why it's it's it's crazy i feel like you know we've got a bunch of stories

and a bunch of rhetoric coming out now about trump being like the president of white america and you've got brian stelter from from CNN feigning shock that Trump banned critical race theory. Oh, I love it. And you can tell the dude has no idea what critical race theory is. I know what it is. Can you enlighten us? What is critical race theory? Yeah.

Can you give us a definition? Critical race theory is basically our concept of intersectionality. And they make it as confusing as humanly possible. Because the whole point is to criticize what you're talking about. And this can be any kind of theory so any critical like critical literature theory is where you go into literature not to read it and learn about the culture that came before you but to criticize it and find problems with it it's an issue so you're looking for problems exactly seems like a great way to live right there's no real simple way to define critical race theory

and it's intentional so i can put wikipedia here, and it's just like overly verbose. Yes, this is postmodernism. It's hard to explain. They literally say it is, they mention it's postmodern philosophy, developed out of postmodern philosophy. So one of the things they do is, oh, you know what? Have you ever seen the movie Coneheads? No, I heard you guys talking about it yesterday. But you know what it is, right?

Dan Aykroyd. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I don't know if you've ever seen that comic where the aliens, it's like the little blue purple aliens. And they're like looking at a cat eating food. And they were like, the small mammal we have captured is consuming hydrocarbons. We are very pleased by this. And people love these comics. And I see these and I'm like, they're just that's just Coneheads.

Coneheads is an old Saturday Night Live sketch. They made a movie, you know, like Lorne Michaels, SNL. And it's about these aliens who they have coneheads. And the way they talk is like, instead of calling something a cookie, they would call it a chocolate infused hydrocarbon mass. I see you are eating a chocolate infused hydrocarbon mass. I will consume this too. And that was the joke, like overly verbose explanations.

That's literally what critical race theorists people do. Oh, wow. Easier to fill 50 minutes of a class when you're taking three times longer things. Great point, yeah. You know what's funny? It's like college, they'd be like, I want you to write 1,000 words. It's like writing an essay. Right, right, right.

It's so obnoxious. I want you to write 1,000 on, you know, this globe. And they would be like, well, I'll just use a hundred adjectives to describe what it is. Instead of saying it's a solar-powered moving globe, we'll say it is a electromagnetically-induced rotation device. Or a vehicular device. Yeah. Of solar orientation. Encapsulated water sphere.

Einstein would make a big deal about explaining things as simply as possible. If you can't explain something simple, then you can't. You're not able to get it done. Something you can't explain to a five year old. I'll read you a couple of things. They say, firstly, critical race theory proposes that white supremacy and racial power are maintained over time, and in particular, that the law may play a role in this process. Secondly, critical race theory work has investigated the possibility of transforming the relationship

between law and racial power, as well as pursuing a project of retrieving racial emancipation and anti-subordination more broadly. But here's my favorite part. White. White is property. What does that mean?

Read it. White is property. Whiteness is property. Yeah. From the CRT perspective. What? The white skin that some Americans possess is akin to owning a piece of property. What?

In that it grants privileges to the owner that a renter, in this case, a person of color, would not be afforded. So we, I say, but someone with white skin, which technically it's not actually white. It's a VIP ticket. Yeah. You own it. But with someone, if it's a person of color, they're just renting their body. I mean, this is the metaphor.

You can rent skin? This is nonsense. This is amazing. What the heck? No, no, no. What they're basically saying is that white people have a piece of property, like a VIP pass. I mean, I'm in debt to the country. I'm still in debt to the bank, the Federal Reserve Bank.

No, no, no. Ian, you're white. But you're a white male. the country. I'm still in debt to the bank, the Federal Reserve Bank. I'm in debt to- No, no, no. Ian, you're white, but you're a white male. So I don't have debt. It's right. You're a white male. Just call up and let them know. Just say, hey, bank, just want to let you know I'm white. They'll go, oh, I'm so sorry about that. We'll wipe your debt clean. Oh, okay. Think about this. Thank you. So let's do this. Let's talk about the natural conclusions. Ladies and gentlemen, this is what's actually happening in... Did you see this?

Oh, my gosh. Oh, I have. University campus hosts whites-only cafe in the name of equality. Let's give a round of applause for the writers of the 2020 season. I got to admit, Adam Schiff came out with this tweet saying there was Russian interference. You got you guys saw this, right? No.

Yeah. So he's like, we got a whistleblower report that there was Russian interference and Trump was downplaying it. And I tweeted like, oh, come on. The writers are getting so lazy. This is just a reboot of Russiagate 1. I thought you were talking about Russiagate 1. No, he just tweeted it today. Oh, man.

So anyway, I digress. I digress. The point is, you know, the season it's like we're getting reruns. What is it? The gender reveal party starts a fire? Yes. This is the second instance of a gender reveal explosive device sparking a fire in California that burned hundreds of acres. Yeah, first one was in a while

ago, but this is the second time it's happened. Not this year. But this is our second occurrence. Yes. Yeah, I know. All right. So somebody did a gender reveal. Started a big fire.

Somebody did it again. Yeah, they say history repeats itself. In fact, correct. Yeah, but come on. Not in like this short a time frame. Well, maybe time's speeding up. I think so. Well, maybe.

But I'll tell you what, everybody. Here we have the next step in uh the so all of that stuff is filler you know they're like giving us these filler episodes of 2020 and we're like we did the gender reveal wildfires can we can we get to the story yes i don't like it the non-people of color cafe is a space for students that do not identify as persons of color to gather and to discuss their experience as students on campus and as non-POC in the world. Hosted by the Center for Social Justice and Inclusion. Oh, how inclusive.

I know. I love it. Excellent. If you're of African-American descent, but you don't identify as someone of color, you could go there. No, you found the loophole. But it's all about how the way you identify. I mean, I guess, but i'd imagine that the whites only cafe

would be like you're clearly not welcome here so what are they gonna do throw you out dude my favorite my favorite thing in this it's like you know what man there's the meme of clown world is yeah that like the the the the current history is so absurd it certainly must have been written by clowns. Okay. You know, it's like the writers of The Simpsons. And they're like, ooh, I got a really great idea for an episode. It's gonna be hilarious. They do a whites only cafe.

And it's hosted by the Social Justice and Inclusion Center. That's perfect comedy. It's irony. It's pure. It's literally a fire truck driving around spraying flamethrowers and burning buildings down i don't think they realize that this is racist the people that created it i think there are people who know it's racist and are very happy about it oh really yeah i think it's insidious yes like it could be that this stuff's getting funded by someone that wants to create division

like from the top of the top of the top like Chinese government or whoever. I mean, it's total conspiracy theory. I myself have not read White Fragility and I probably should but I'm just right. I don't wanna. Yeah, exactly. Book on tape. Yeah, I guess. But I'm pretty sure. Doesn't she say that she's uncomfortable

around minorities? She did, yeah. Wasn't she the one who said that when she walked into a room that was majority minority? That she would clutch her purse more tightly is that what she said that is something that a racist does i should look up the quote i just got to read the book sorry i think you have avowed racists like robin d'angelo and some of these other people they know exactly what they're doing and they like it they want white space. Listen, this white fragility lady, white fragility is a nationwide bestseller right now. This is why I'm like, we need Trump. Trump's got to really he can't do everything because this is in our culture, but he can do a lot

for now. And I'm worried if Biden wins, Biden's negotiating with these people and entertaining these ideas. Robin DiAngelo said when she goes into a room, she gets full of, you know, marginalized people. I'll use that language. She gets uncomfortable. Wouldn't she feel more comfortable in a room for only white people then? Is that the logic? She's straight up saying she is not comfortable around people who aren't white. And then all of a sudden now these universities, which probably read these books because it was a bestseller, are creating spaces where she'll feel more comfortable. Oh, man.

So you're appealing to their neuroses, apparently, which could be very detrimental. I mean, OK, we're comfortable with what we know. I get that. So if you're unfamiliar with someone because of the color of their skin, if you're surrounded by all black people your whole life and then you go and there's white people around maybe that will be just new so there's a discomfort because it's new or because it's it's cultural differences yeah of course they're eating soup and you've only eaten meat your whole life so it's like i i'm i'm nervous about that i don't know i went to an event in norway they were serving whale. Did you eat it? I had a tiny piece. What was it like?

It was awful. It's mammal. And, you know, it is. It is. And so when I went there, I was actually kind of shocked to see it. But it's normal there. And they had a big plate of it. And I was like, whoa, just like, no way, dude.

I'm not going anywhere near that. And they were like, it's totally normal. And it was like pickled or something. And they're like putting it on bread and mustard it's like mustard or mayonnaise or something on it. And I was just adamant. I'm not going to eat it. And then they convinced me to at least taste it. And it was awful.

And I was unhappy about it. And I'm like, it's an American cultural thing to say F no to eating whale. That we won't do that. So I was uncomfortable. It was kind of weird. You know what I mean? The whales are the great sages of the earth, man. One of them.

I mean, I understand like whaling in the past, but it is a major cultural difference. So anyway, the reason I bring that up is if you grew up in, this really is a great perspective into what these people are doing. You hear these stories, right? There was one woman, she was like, all on Twitter, they're talking about privilege. They're like, when I was 20, I got drunk and crashed my car

and the cop gave me a slap on the wrist. And I'm like, yes, and you lived in the Berkshires, like you lived in Long Island in the Hamptons and you had a very wealthy family and the cops, someone stuffed a wad of cash into the right person's pocket and you're not gonna get in trouble because you're a rich person, not because you're white, because you were rich.

It's class. Dude, bail is the whole system. Ever since they would ransom prisoners from ancient warfare, it was all about taking a Duke prisoner and then ransoming off immediately if he could afford it. Otherwise, they sit in prison. So bail is the same way. You can buy your way out of jail. Well, temporarily. Yeah, temporarily.

It could be a year and a half until your case, you know? Right. Yep. Seriously. So they've tried doing, they've had these knee-jerk reactions in New York with like cashless bail, which has resulted in criminals laughing and walking out and committing more crimes. What is it exactly?

It was something like nonviolent crimes would be no cash bail because they argued it wasn't fair that you would put a monetary value on whether someone has a right to continue their life while they're, you know, not proven guilty yet. And, you know, I agree with the sentiment. I just think they in practice, they screwed everything up and they did it horrible, horribly wrong. And I think there should have been a trial period on specific like one or two specific instances, or it should have just been straight up case by case basis. But they're really there. there's a good point to be made about you know uh bail systems and how it disproportionately affects poor people yeah you go to you go to jail and they say you got to spend 600 bucks to get out

and you don't have it you lose your job you lose your apartment lose your job that's crazy yeah so it's so there are challenges there but then what do we do right so i've i've often said i would prefer to err on the side of freedom, in which case it is better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer. Right. The only problem is that in New York where they did this, they also take away your right to self-defense. So if you're going to release criminals who are going to go around committing crimes and you're also telling people that defense is restricted as well, you're creating a class of you're you're you're creating a likelihood of crimes to be committed

and an inability of individuals to protect their homes, their friends, and their families. So it's kind of like, I think hardcore authoritarianism is the wrong direction. But anyway, the general point I'm trying to make about all this

is just they conflate race with cash. It's totally a class thing. So I get what you mean with letting a prisoner out if they can't afford it. What's the incentive of not just going right back if they're just going to let you right out again? Going back to where? Jail. They let you out because you don't need to pay bail because you can't afford it. So they do some social thing where they just let you out anyway.

That's what they've been doing. Yeah. And especially with COVID, they released all these people and they all went and committed and a lot of more writing gruesome yeah man geez it's almost like class warfare makes sense in a way but that it doesn't make no no it doesn't make sense but but no one should not have the ability to to have money or or status or whatever it is power i think there is a serious question around a poor person being told they got to pay cash bail. So it's tough. It really is.

Man, these are hard ethical questions to figure out. The safety of the community versus the freedom of the individual and the rights of the individual. Because we're wild animals. Humans are apes that have fervor. I think the issue is scale so if you think back to like i don't know 1700s or even before then you had a much much less dense population and so much less you know very few people were in these circumstances now the problem is we're going to have what several hundred per week or per day who might be innocent the scale of uh you know rights being trampled over that's getting crazy but also think about if there was some dude who's accused of a crime and he went to he got arrested

and they said you got to pay bail i'll tell you what we'll do cashless bail just promise to come back which they probably wouldn't have done way back then but what's what everybody's armed it's you know farms out in the middle of nowhere they're all assuming they got to protect themselves anyway now we've got people in big cities stacked on top of each other everything smells like sour milk and they're fighting all the time and when i say fighting all the time i don't mean that's like getting worse actually violent crime is going down but crime and crime in general still exists and if you have more people you will have more crime yeah then you're gonna have more people getting arrested and sometimes innocent people get arrested. So the challenge now is, is it better that 10 innocent people suffer than one guilty person escape?

No. That's the authoritarian approach. No. Yeah. It is better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer. But then you're anyway, we're going off on a tangent about more of a more of an ethical discussion. The point I was basically bringing up about everything they're doing is that when they talk about how they got away with committing crimes because they are racists

they assume race is the driving factor for human motivation. So here's the important way to frame it. People's perception about what is happening in the world is based on how they view them, how they themselves work in the world is based on how they view them, like how they themselves work in the world, right? So if somebody in a white progressive upper class neighborhood

gets into a car accident while they're drunk and the cop comes up and says, uh-oh, we're going to let you off with a warning, you know, this is the mayor's daughter or whatever, or like this is the daughter of a high-powered lawyer. We're not going to get into it. We're going to let you go because they are racists themselves. And because they judge people based on race, they assume they're being judged based on their race as well. Get it. Yeah.

So what's happening here is that these people are actually closeted racists. And because, yeah, work with me. They, they, they have underlying racism and because they were privileged and they had this class advantage they're like fish in water they don't even see it

so that when it comes out that they actually had a leg up they're like well obviously this is because of my race exactly that must be what else could it be do you remember that guy to hammer everything looks like a nail oh that's brutal that's true give a man a gun and what the heck oh what is that saying give a man a fish wasn't it that's the metaphor and what the heck um do you remember that bang that kid who got arrested for drunk driving i think he might have killed someone even and then they let him go for affluence he got off affluenza affluenza he was too rich he didn't know what was good for him. Talk about messed up, man. What the heck?

Yeah, class, bro. Class is a thing. And underclass. This is what I was talking about, the Russian Revolution, man. If you ignore the underclass for too long, which is why I like Donald Trump at least speaking out against it, and I'm a little afraid against – I don't want to get too emotional about Biden, but just people that aren't there, people that are kind of vacant to the issues, that the underclass will connect on some dangerous, which is kind of what

we're looking at. I think it's a lot of poor people out on the street rioting. I don't know for sure. Not necessarily. In New York, it was several rich people. Rich daughter. Yep. They're bored, rich kids. That's what I was saying. Yeah, this is affluenza. They're rich people. So that's a saying, to a hammer, everything looks everything looks like a nail to a racist everything is predicated upon race so when you have people like uh you know what i'm not going to name people i could because a lot of these people like we're straight up saying things talking about their privilege and getting away with things because of their skin color and i'm like wow i never perceived that i grew up in a mixed area. And when crimes were committed and things happened, you could not assume it was based on race because everybody was a different race.

Everybody had different skin color, different parents. Some people had an accent. Some people didn't. So when something would happen, you couldn't see a pattern in that. But when you get people like Robin DiAngelo just telling you over and over again, remember that time that cop let you go? It's because of your race. And then the young girl goes,

oh, meanwhile, her dad's writing a check to the mayor and he's like, this would never happen. You know what I mean? So this kind of thinking is contagious

because Robin DiAngelo is a racist and she's talking to people who are in higher classes who have the class advantage. So this might be something that they never thought about before.

But now that she's telling them, they're like, oh, maybe there's something to this because i have noticed that i do have an advantage and she wrote a book so she has a phd man yeah all of a sudden her words have more meaning i guess right no i'm being sarcastic but i think that that's a kind of a brainwashy thing that someone with a phd or that wrote a book has more meaning in their words somebody said what was the goal you know what is the goal? You know, what is the end goal of critical race theory? And it's to leverage white guilt for money.

Oh, brutal. Yeah. Yeah. And that seems to be the thing. I mean, you know, giving these really high, high, high cost, expensive seminars, writing these books, regurgitating these crackpot ideas. So people are paying money to go to school to be told that they're a racist. Yes. That's insanity. That's a racket, man. I love it. ideas so people are paying money to go to school to be told that they're a racist yes that's insanity that's a racket man i love it that's a dangerous racket too did you see did you see the video of the of the morbidly obese woman and she's got the paypal thing yeah that that is like people are saying that's the perfect example of critical race theory in the video she's yelling at people she's like you know i think that you know white people aren't human and you're all demons.

So I'm like, why are these people sitting here taking that? That was so weird to me. She was like, I'm not saying this to be mean, but I actually think you're all demons. That's not just her. Like what? And they were just sitting there placidly. Yeah. Taking it.

Freaking cows. What is their history? I got to know their individual histories. Let's talk about some of the news that's sweeping the country. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump recently announced he's going to be banning critical race theory from federal trainings and stuff. And of course, the left wing media came out and were like, Trump's making things up.

It's a right wing tempest. It's not real. It is a very serious problem. It does exist. And there are real examples. They just don't bother to Google search. But I want to show you this story from The Atlantic. They write,

For the first time, America may have an anti-racist majority. Not since Reconstruction has there been an opportunity for the advancement of racial justice. What does justice mean? What is racial justice? There's that meme where one guy has a box. They all have boxes, but one guy's tall and one guy's short, and the short guy can't see over the fence. So you give the tall guy's box to the short guy,

and then the short guy has two boxes, but then they can all see over the fence. What if the tall guy on his box liked the breeze? Right, then whose right is it to take it? I think he gave it up of his own volition, but that's the part you don't see. No, no, no, no. Is it just to say, hey, maybe you like the breeze, but he can't see and it's more important than the way you feel?

So we have talked about this image before. You've got three people standing up against a fence and they're all standing on a box. The tall guy and the medium guy can see the baseball game and the short guy can't. And so then what they do is they take, as you mentioned, the box and the tall guy, give it a short guy. And now they're all standing there at equal level watching the baseball game one of my favorite responses to that is they're stealing because they didn't pay yes but um actually my favorite response is they the the fence is really high no uh no one can see anything with the tall guy and then the tall guy has his legs cut legs cut off and he's he's on stumps and there's blood

everywhere and that's a better description of what they're talking about. And I'll explain it to you. What is the societal equivalent of a box? Money. Well, no, you can't quantify it. Because they're talking about racial privileges, right? They're not talking about cash. I don't know.

It's like who can see the game, whoever can afford to buy the ticket. They're saying straight up that a homeless white person is an oppressor and a wealthy black woman is oppressed. Money is buy the ticket. They're saying straight up that a homeless white person is an oppressor and a wealthy black woman is oppressed. Money is not the factor. The factor is skin color and the ability to function in society or something like that. Oh, okay. In which case, the only way to come about with real equity is to, you know, chop someone's legs off. If you're tall, we can't make short people tall, but we can make the one tall person short.

Get it? And then they'll figure out a different way to view the game together because you've stripped oh then nobody can see the game yeah unless they figure out a way to to build a portal to all watch it like it's going to incentivize the tall guy to figure out a way to get them to all see the game is what you're saying there's a bunch of memes one of them is like the libertarian one is there's no fence and like that's a good nothing matters and there's there's one where it's like the fence is a chain link fence so it doesn't matter either and that was like the engineer's response or something like that. There's a bunch of funny answers to this.

It's kind of dumb. But this is what I want to show you. What does it mean to have an anti-racist majority in this country? What is the goal? Welcome to Twitter. This is FJ the Real Racist Feminista Jones. Who is this lady? She is Nathan Morris of Boys 2 Men Gave Me a Rose.

I don't know what that means, but she has 173,500 followers. Here's what she tweeted in a thread over a week ago, and Twitter allows this to remain on the platform. It's interesting. She said, begging white people to support Black Lives Matter and related work has diluted the integrity of true revolutionary work. I still don't get why folks were so focused on getting mainstream support when it only means the inevitable destruction of the movement. White people, no matter how liberal or progressive, will never

endorse revolutionary acts that may jeopardize their children's lives. That's true. As such, they will never fully support a black liberation revolution by way of violent rebellion. Nope, not going to happen. She goes on to say that violence is the only way way of violent rebellion. Nope, not not going to happen. She goes on to say that violence is the only way, of course. No votes, no marching, no spots on cable news, no high fashion magazine cover stories, no hashtags, no panels. None of that is going to bring about the liberation black folks deserve. That's been up since August 27thth a call for violence it sounds overt violence because it's not a a what do they call it in um a call it's not like let's go commit violence on this day at this time it's not specific yeah yeah it has no specific target that it doesn't violate the terms at least that's what

it is so you have experience moderating stuff yeah would you get rid of a post like that no because it doesn't call for imminent violence. That's where you draw the line is if they're saying, at this time, we're going to do this at this time. If they're saying, get angry, blow stuff up, it's just not imminent violence. It's not grounds for termination. I'll be honest. I agree.

I hear what you're saying. And I'm actually glad that she's posted it and it's allowed to remain. I'm glad to see it. Because now we know what at least some of these people are thinking. I mean, this woman is verified on Twitter with 173,500 followers saying, gotta get violent. Is that Betsy?

Yeah, it's Betsy. She wants to join the show. She's joining us. Normally, because normally Ian's not in the room, so she's hanging out with you. She's petting Betsy. So here's what she says. She says, folks only understand violence in its Eurocentric framing and definition, same as liberation,

if we're being honest. So you hear violence and you already have a picture of what it looks like and you've been conditioned to reject it out of fear. What if I told you the violence required is liberating? What if I told you that there is no way for a dislocated, displaced African to truly live free without the complete destruction of whiteness, occupation of space in our minds, bodies, souls, and communities? Do you know what whiteness means? No. Their definition. Hard work.

Scheduling. Time. Planning for the future. Okay. That's whiteness. Diligence? Oh, definitely. Definitely.

The crazy thing about this is it's not. There are African cultures that have hard work and time and schedules. Insanely racist to say that. Yeah. I mean, especially if you go by, you know, the out of Africa theory and they say that Africa was the cradle of humanity or whatever. I've heard some people say that there's actually evidence humanity may have come from other places or been in other places earlier.

The point is, if the prevailing theory right now suggests that humans started in Africa and succeeded greatly, then wouldn't it be hard work and perseverance is a trait of blackness? It's a human trait. I definitely think it's a human trait. It tends towards survivability and success, you know, group community function. And you need it. This is Betsy's tale, by the way. That's Betsy.

Oh, you can see her? I'm like, she's sucking light. Yeah. After the Great Flood, 12,800 years ago, you know, the cometary impact, the

Great Flood, from all that. Humanity. Is that real? Yeah. According to, like, geologists, Randall Carlson particularly.

Almost every culture agrees on some kind of Great Flood. Yeah, nuclear glass in the melt water in the dirt at that time. What? It's really cool.

Really cool evidence. No way. I'd have to pull up facts to really convince you, I'm sure. But probably, yeah. Assuming that there was a great flood, humanity recollected in that area. So I don't know if all humans came from the cradle, but it seems like that's where society rebooted. And maybe I was I was reading that there were like 10 humans that like created all of humanity or something. Whoa.

You know, I like to believe instead, though, that, you know, it's actually like you ever see Battlestar Galactica? Yeah. How at the end of the series, they made it to an Earth-like planet. Oh, yeah. There you go. That's what really happened. We're just, it's Battlestar Galactica.

We're on season 2020 of Battlestar. That's where we're at. You think that Earth was seeded by fungus? No, I don't. That panspermia theory? We're going to. Fungus just shot across the universe and pelted all the oceans i don't know about all that but i can say that it has nothing to do with violence

i guess we do huh yeah violent violence the the rise of violence what they claim to be is anti-racist when they're specifically talking about people of a certain race being violent to liberate themselves to feel good about it. I think it's the problem is that you're blaming any one species or any one race. Even you know, we're all in this together as a human race. We function

better in a group regardless of our skin or the way we look or smell or sound or any of that stuff. I think you're entirely correct. And this is something interesting. This is an example of a dangerous idea. And I think that she should be free to say it, obviously, because I want to know exactly what people are thinking. But that doesn't mean it's less of a dangerous idea. And the fact that she is free to say it means that now other people might be able to adopt what she's thinking and go with it. It makes an argument for censorship.

And is sometimes censorship valuable? Well well then you get into the question the fundamental question underneath every kind of censorship is who decides oh that's brutal and that's always the question and you can say it's going to be a christian conservative not everyone's going to like that you can say it's going to be an atheist and the christians are going to be shut out or you can say it's going to be somebody like this lady that's dangerous too because even groups can go crazy right exactly or or it might be some random wimmickson oh gosh yeah that's dangerous too because even groups can go crazy right exactly or or it might be some random wimmickson oh gosh yeah that's more likely so how could i forget so i'm definitely gonna we're definitely gonna talk about this too in in this similar context when the atlantic writes an

article which to be honest like we didn't actually read it so i'm not i'm not trying to time well no what i'm saying is it is it's important to read all this stuff i'm not presenting the criticism in the context of what the argument from the article is. I'm presenting in the context of the ideas of anti-racism. And what we actually get is this insane critical theory, which encompasses so many other things. So when Donald Trump says something like you've drank the Kool-Aid, Donald Trump banned critical race theory. But what about critical gender theory? You know, what about all of these different theories? Which brings me to Wemixson.

One of my favorite words in the made up, you know, English language. I'm sure at some point it'll end up in the dictionary because dictionary.com and Merriam-Webster tend to be woke.

Oh, who owns those? Who decides that stuff? I was wondering that a couple days ago. I don't know. I'm going to have to look that up. I don't know. That's weird that we just

accept it and we don't know who writes it. That's crazy. We're just changing words now. Think about this word, okay? You're listening to me speak. What does Wemixin mean? If you just heard that word, Wemixin, what is it? Like a tennis.

Wemixin? Like an outfit. It is just an alternate spelling of the word woman with an X instead of an A or an E. So it's pronounced. They say it's pronounced like woman, but come on, let's be honest. If you showed that word to someone who was learning English, they would go Wimixin. Oh, and it's the X because the X, Y chromosome. It's pronounced like a Y, but it's the X.

Okay. No. None of this makes any sense. Yeah. I understand. So look at this. Ted London. Why we're using Wimixin. No, that's not X. Okay. No. None of this makes any sense. I understand. So look at this. Ted London. Why we're using Wemixin.

No, that's not a typo. Wemixin is a spelling of women that's more inclusive and progressive. The term sheds lights on the prejudice, discrimination, and institutional barriers Wemixin have faced and explicitly includes

non-cisgendered women. So what they're basically saying is that the word woman does not include trans women. So they're transphobic. I see. So this is all womengendered women. So what they're basically saying is that the word woman does not include trans women. So they're transphobic. I see. So this is all women, including trans women. Which is transphobic because trans women are women, right?

Depends on who you ask, but I think yes. Yeah, they are. So among the left, when they say trans women are women, the idea that you would need to create a new word, wimixin, is transphobic because you're basically saying that trans women do not, you know, are not defined by the word woman. Right. This is the inherent problem of the absurdity of this game

they play where nothing can ever be offensive. So here's what I said. I said, the end goal of this stuff really is just to break our society, isn't it? Let's roll with it. Okay. Wimixin is actually racist because it's still using the Latin alphabet and doesn't represent people of all cultures.

Yeah, every letter we use is a racist what do they call it, like a kudos to the slave masters of old, the Romans. Yeah, exactly. Yep, there it is. So, if they're going to say we're going to change the E to an X because that's inclusive, well then I would argue, what about Cyrillic?

What about Asian characters or Thai or Indian? You know, Sanskrit, whatever. We have another guest in the future MD episode. So here's what I put. I don't think I can actually pronounce this. It's like, I'm not gonna even bother saying this. I'm gonna end up saying something really dumb in Chinese if I say it wrong.

But you see, I included these symbols here inside the word Wemixin to create a new word. It's a beautiful word. Yeah, the Chinese characters I put in there just spelt communist. Or I'm sorry, communism.

Wom communismin. Yes, wom communismin. Get out of here. What are you doing? There's a cat on the table. It's because you're here. They love the energy. It's a free-for-all.

Now he's sitting on the table. Look at this guy. He's chilling. He's a center're here they love the energy for all now he's sitting on the table look at this guy he's a centerpiece hanging out he is the man anyway place so i have an issue with the word women maybe you guys can help me out with sure why is the word men in the word women because the issue because the original word was with men and the original word for male was wehrman so oh so it was the wife of the men? No. That's where wife comes from. So it was Wehrman, meaning male human, and with men,

female human. And eventually, it became woman, and that's where werewolf comes from. Werewolf was like, human wolf. Right. Interesting.

So man was just a reference to humanity. I see. But eventually over time, i guess because of the patriarchy man became to reference colloquially human males and and i say patriarchy but i actually as much as it is silly i do mean that in a certain sense so you know early on when humans were a bit more tribal and nomadic and and i'm not going to pretend to be an anthropologist or sociologist to know the finer details but i I would just surmise that there were specific descriptors between the males and the females, Wehrman, Wiffman.

And that's my understanding. It's not like I've got the book pulled up. I can't tell you everything specifically. Did he just try and drink it? He did try to put his paw into your water. Oh, come on. I watched it and I couldn't say anything about it. He's thirsty for your water.

I'm sorry. I got a gatorade here. Anyway, anyway, I was talking about the root words. I was not listening. Sorry. Eventually, when society was built, I've read, you know a gatorade here. Anyway, anyway, I was talking about the root words. I was not listening. Sorry. So eventually when society was built, I've read, you know, this is really funny. We're going to get into these studies because if I don't pull up the sources, then people try and claim it's not true or whatever.

But anyway, I was reading a study that basically said, not a study, but it was like a research paper talking about the rise of civilization and patriarchy and what they basically said was because women are so important and to society that women were protected which gradually evolved into traditional gender roles of the men would go out and work and the woman would stay home where it was safe now he's drinking your water bako wants a piece yeah so so the idea was in in early human civilization you have men going on the hunt and stuff like that. Women were gathering and taking care of the tribe, while men were taking more risks. But because they were all really much around each other, they basically said we had words to describe you know different genders but once it came to be that women were staying behind and civilization was functioning with men doing the work then men only talking to each other

would just say man because it was simpler among themselves or if they made a reference to all people it typically would only refer to human males like they would go out on hunting missions for months at a time the men as far as i know like ancient native american cultures they'd go out for like weeks at a time so they'd only be with guys yeah so i can see that the language i don't know a whole lot about that stuff yeah it would be longer than a day or two they go out for for long periods of time also the idea of um patronage and like the patriarchy is like ancient venice for instance was a patriarchy the the patron or the the oldest male of the family or the most prominent male would be in charge of the entire city and then

when he died they would vote for another patron uh it's kind of like it's kind of like um um wakanda you know where the black panther and uh t'challa and all that stuff kind of like that because they had uh kind of except they had ritual combat to determine the king. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was a patriarchal monarchist ritual combat government. Whoa. Check, please. I love how that was like a popular movie.

They were like, yeah. I mean, Chadwick Boseman was an awesome, awesome dude. So, you know, rest in peace. I'm sad to hear. I still haven't seen Wakanda Manor or Black Panther. I hear it's awesome. I'd give it a 7 out of 10 like marvel movies tend to be good but a lot of people were acting like it was some grand masterpiece for like you know racial reasons and stuff like that and i'm like you know if people if my response to a lot of this stuff is people have their opinions

and their views and i i really don't care if someone comes out and they were like this is what it meant to me i'm like that's really cool oh yeah you know you do your thing i'm not i'm not gonna believe on your those are your feelings i'm not, I'm not going to believe on your, those are your feelings. I'm not going to, I'm not going to argue about how you feel. Yeah. I would judge since I studied it. I judge it more like critically, critically, funny word to throw around these days, but like more like what's the plot.

How do the scenes, how's the lighting in the scene? Like that's how I judge movies, not how I emotionally. Yeah. Some of the CGI was kind of at the end. It turns me off. Yeah. Like the final fight scene. But you know, anyway, the point is I thought it was an OK.

I thought it was pretty good. I thought it was pretty good. I think it was fun. A lot of people like to, you know, what really bothers me about the cult of wokeness. And actually, this is a good point to segue into this. We'll talk about Colin Kaepernick and the cult of wokeness. They will buy anything if it is from the church. And I don't mean that as in the Christian church. i mean it is in terms of like their new religion so first let me introduce you to colin

capernick is back in the madden game which people thought was really interesting because colin capernick is not a football player yeah he's in the game he left the nfl this is in 2016 four years ago he got cut out and that's that they took him out of the game he's not great. He's in the game. He left the NFL. This is in 2016. He basically got cut out and that's that. They took him out of the game. He's not great. Now he's in the game. Now they put him back. With his black power sign. When he scores a touchdown, he does the black power sign? He does that. Is that black power?

Well, that is. Well, it's arguably the communist. It's revolutionary. It's wild, but it's getting co-opted by the... Oh, it's the revolution. Because it's like the fashy. Yeah, the fingers together make us strong, and that's why you show the fingers to people.

That's the black power thing, too, right? They would do that. Raising the fist. I mean, you know, it's a salute for racial... The Black Panther thing. Racial identitarianism. They put it in a video game. Yeah, but that was his real touchdown move in real life?

Is that why they did that he just got on the knee i get on his knee or whatever that guy he's divisive how do you feel about colin i think he is a brilliant businessman who realized that this is let's just cut right to the chase okay why is he being put in this video game first i think you mentioned this sometimes they put free agents in these games yeah they're not on teams but they're prominent players and so they decide to include them it's been four years maybe he shouldn't be included but you know whatever who am i to judge he's he's a famous person who was in the nfl he's not anymore and if they thought it was going to work for them so be it

i don't care apparently the game was terrible and nobody wanted to play it anyway oh wow but this to me is a really good example of get broke go woke not the other way around this is what the oscars just did too yes the oscars did this a misconception among many people is that every you know these companies decide to embrace wokeness because that will make them money so they signed a contract with colin gambling that it's going to sell more games. I don't know exactly what the deal with Madden was, but Nike has a big deal. It's like an all-star deal where he's apparently, some people are estimating like $5 million. With Colin? Yeah.

And they're saying that this deal is reserved for like the best players in the NFL. He's not even signed. Exactly. He's not a good player either. But let me explain this. There have been some instances where companies have made woke products and then failed miserably and everybody laughs and says get woke go broke meaning we've said yeah and i say it a lot if you embrace

wokeness you're gonna lose money yeah here's what's actually happening for a lot of these companies they're losing money so they decide to try getting woke to make money. You know why? Hail Mary? Have you ever seen a woke comedy show? No. These people... God, no. Here's how I can explain regular comedy. You're sitting there, and you've got, say, someone like Ryan Long. Have you seen his videos?

I love him, man. He's amazing. He's hilarious. We had him on the show. Last night, yeah. Right. And so you're sitting there, you're laughing. You're like, this guy's amazing.

This is so funny. Dude, I saw... There's an article from Babylon Beat and it said, new Netflix subscription service pumps raw septic waste straight into your living room. And it was just people sitting in it and like a family sitting on a sofa

laughing and smiling and there's a pipe with just sewage spraying everywhere. One of the funniest things I've ever seen. Amazing. And it was like, the CEO of Netflix said, the industry is evolving

and we're evolving with it. Oh my gosh. People are really excited to pay $8.99 industry is evolving and we're evolving with it. Oh, my God. People are really excited to pay $8.99 and have raw sewage pumped into your home. Funky. Amazing. But here's the thing. Woke comedy is like, did you see the white man with his privilege get fired? And they go, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Claps, not laughs. Claptor. Do you know what claptor is? Well, I'm starting to understand. It's horrible. Claptor is the idea that people are clapping not because you're funny, because you're saying things that confirm their bias or they like. Wow. So like John Oliver, for instance, he does not make you laugh.

He gives you claptor. Yeah, for sure. It's so obvious, too. So he's sitting there and he's like, did you see the orange man? He's so bad. And then everyone's like, ha, ha, ha, ha. You are very funny. I am laughing.

Enjoy it. It's not real. So what we're seeing is, here's a question that I asked. And maybe this will be offensive to a lot of religious people. Have you ever been to church? Only like on Easter a couple of times. And I got stung by a bee. So I've never.

Would you consider. And you've definitely been to church. I have been to church for most of my life. Would either of you consider back and you've definitely been in church I have been to church for most of my life would either of you consider it to be entertaining the one I went to was not no what about you um the one that I went to it depended on the preacher I finally found a church that was actually engaging it wasn't entertaining but it was engaging what's the what's the point of football to be entertaining to. To have fun. To be entertained. Yes, to be part of a team. So listen, I ask the question, why is it that people go to church even though it's not entertaining to them? To learn? No, it's because people are going there to practice their faith and to worship and to meet and share with other people, right?

They're willing to go to these services. And to be fair, these legitimate religions with scripture and real basis, I can respect someone having faith and saying, we're going to go to service. I've been to church several times. And I think there are a lot of churches that do a really good job of being informative and interesting and engaging, like you mentioned. Yeah. And I think it's actually a problem that there are a lot of churches that, you know. They do try too hard to be entertaining.

Well, it's not so much that they try too hard. It's that there are some that are just, you don't want to be there. Yeah. And especially young people don't want to be there. Well, yeah, you start to feel really guilty. And one of the things that I noticed with church was that they, well, first of all, they would try to be too entertaining. And also people use it as an exercise of discipline. So it is not meant to be fun. It is not meant to be funny. It's just something that you have to do. Right. Yeah. Discipline. Well, is not meant to be fun. It is not meant to be funny. It's just something that you have to do. Right. Yeah, discipline. Well, so here's what's happening, in my opinion. When they put Colin Kaepernick in this game, when they make a movie like Ghostbusters, what they're betting on is, listen, our company is dying. We're losing money. The ratings are down for all of these things. If we embrace the cult of wokeness, the adherents will just watch because

it's it's, you know, confirmation bias. It's their religion. So what they do is they inject all of this into things, hoping that they can create an ideological base that doesn't actually find any of this fun or funny. They'll just go, isn't this amazing? Isn't it really fun? Because I'll tell you what, man, I've seen what comedians and I would not call them comedians. Really? Yeah, there was one. I think Vice did a segment where they had a woke comedian and all he did was make fun of himself. And I'm like, first of all, I don't know you.

Listen, Rodney Dangerfield. Now that guy knew self-deprecating humor. Yeah, but he wasn't. He was very raw. He wasn't PC or anything like that. He was the most gruesome. And it wasn't always self-deprecating.

But I'll tell you what. I do not want to hear a guy go, get a load of my white privilege. And then have everyone laugh. I'm like, that wasn't a joke. You said a buzzword that the zealots of your cult are going to go, hey, he's a white privilege. He recognizes white privilege.

Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap. There are some people who do woke comedy. And I'm not going to pretend like it's all bad. he he recognizes white privilege clap clap clap clap there there's some there like there there's some people who do out comedy and i'm not gonna i'm not gonna pretend like it's all bad i'm just saying it's disproportionately not funny and i'll tell you this like have you i'm gonna get real offensive too because i know that there are some people who like what was what you have a look i'm listening she's ready you know i'm ready to be offended you know where i'm going no i don't take it he's like have you ever seen these really cringy, like low quality religious films? Oh my gosh.

My entire upbringing was spent watching these movies. Okay. And I'm like, you're going to get offended. Oh no, I'm not offended. These things are awful. Oh my gosh. What was the worst one you ever saw? The worst one.

So they're, oh, I can't. I think I blocked them from my memory because they're that bad. But all of them are poorly acted. They're poorly scripted. There's no plot.'s horrible can't can't cameron what's his name kurt cameron would did one that was like really kind of high budget dude even the modern ones are just so bad they have never gotten any better and i'm like what is wrong with you people we're losing the culture we're already you're making it worse stop well yeah well i was gonna say like i've seen some of these really low quality.

Like, I can't remember what I was saying. I watched a superhero. I think, I can't remember what channel it was in Chicago. It was like a religious channel. I grew up Catholic briefly until I was like, I think, 10 or 11. We were going to church and stuff. So they showed us a bunch of this really hokey stuff. And I'm like, you want to talk about a B movie?

Let's talk about a Z movie where it's like, I don't know. You get the point. So they get non-actors to just read a script, but it's more about the words to try and like, this is scripture. Let's just brainwash, like send it out. No, it's just they're not film producers. They're not Hollywood. They're just out of their job. So, yeah, to be fair, right, they're making content to the best of their abilities, and they're not they're not hollywood their job so yeah to be fair right they're making content to

the best of their abilities and they're not movie studios yes i would say that their hearts are definitely in the right place they just don't know how to produce or use like modern computers so you think about these things and then also think about woke movies like ghostbusters right i didn't see it imagine what would happen if you took some of these people and you gave them $200 million to make their movie. They still don't know how to make a movie. They would just make a horrible movie

with $200 million. They'd make Ghostbusters 2016. Yeah, yeah. Have you seen Ghostbusters 2016? No, no, God. Thank God I have not. You're missing out. Speaking of God.

Imagine, so like, every male character is mentally i saw that mentally deficient in some capacity or just like it's just so awful so bad dude yeah this is what happens when you give you know the zealots access to capital and they don't know how to do they just spend the rest on marketing basically so they make the crappy still make the crappy thing they got they overpay the actors they know they just don't know how to write a movie and if you speak out against it you get fired so they got all these people on big contracts and you gotta kind of imagine if someone was gonna make a new iron man

and they're like we're gonna bring back robert downey jr it's gonna be big and the guy who's gonna run it is fred the pastor down from you know my local church local church in Fremont, Nebraska, and he's going to be like, wouldn't it be great if, you know, Tony goes to confession and talks about why he's, you know, his sins and then actually, you know, does. What's it called when you have the rosary and they tell you what to do, like when you confess? So I wasn't a Catholic, so I don't have any knowledge.

Oh, that's Catholic. I'm sorry. Yeah, you were the Catholic, my friend. We would go into confession and then you have the rosary and then they would tell you like yeah praying the rosary yeah so you're professional i don't know and i mean i mean no disrespect to people who actually practice these religions i'm saying wouldn't it be kind of out of place if you watched a movie and there were these weird breaks where it was just like very on the nose overtly catholic activities it's like iron man like, in order to stop the evil villain Mandarin, we should all go

to church on Sunday. There's a great service. And then they spend 20 minutes. That's kind of like, I mean, I'm obviously exaggerating, but take that and replace that with the wokeness. Yeah. And it's like the men are all really dumb and everything is like, yeah, it's like it's like watching a religious propaganda

film almost oh just as bad yeah with really low production quality knowing or believing this is a religion this new cult of personality or whatever cult of of religion cult of of race is that what it is and you know i would call it a non-theistic religion because it's too widespread and there's no like there's no pope of you know there's no cult leader of wokeness. There are priests, you know, and I guess you could argue there's, like, pope-ish type people. But, like, you know, cults are specifically worshiping some individual. Oh. And so, yeah, so, like, there's a, I was reading research on cults.

Because I was talking to a friend and I said, wokeness is a cult. And they said, no, it isn't. I looked up the definition of a cult, like there's an anthropological whatever. And it typically requires an individual who leads it. But there are cults where it's just a culture because it's so derived from the word culture, I would think, or...

I don't know. But there's cults of personality where the person dies and they worship their picture. And then someone basically is the, you know... YouTube's a cult of personality. Like you get subscribers, people follow you, and it's like they're following your personality. You create a culture around your personality. I don't know about that. Actors like Brad Pitt has a cult of personality surrounding him. Maybe. It's very powerful. Donald Trump. But Brad Pitt's not telling you to like give your money to him and stuff, you know. Cult isn't inherently bad. I mean, kind of actually. They're trying to

sell stuff. I know they kind of are trying to sell their body like it's a product that you go and worship. I'll put it this way. There's nothing wrong with having a beer. There's something wrong when having a beer interferes with your daily life. There's nothing wrong with, you know, wanting to follow news about your favorite celebrity.

There's something wrong with doing nothing but following them and interfering with your life.ating humans actually a very good thing for society but getting obsessed with them is not oh yeah for sure moderation well i think the the more warrior thing worrying thing is how ideology is man you know what were we watching where earlier today i said christianity in this country is dead um i think we were watching oh firm we were watching the firm yeah i don't remember the context oh that's right that's right that's right um the reason i said that is because in the 1990s and in a lot of these movies so this is really interesting um adam was jamming uh on the show one night and he has that one song where he says it's time to confess your sins yeah but Adam's not religious

you know and I was like it's really interesting that somebody who's not a practicing religious individual uses the concept of confessing your sins because if you went to like China or India that's not something culturally relevant to them they might understand it but it's like you know why if you imagine if he's saying meditate in a temple, you know, and find enlightenment. All right. So we understand these concepts, but confessing your sins is a very common cultural thing. So we were watching The Firm with Tom Cruise from 1993, and there was a scene where they were at a funeral.

And I was seeing, like, the priest read rites and all that stuff. And that's why I was like, the cultural relevance of this was in a mainstream Tom Cruise major motion picture. Today, they probably, of course, still have things like this, but it was interesting to see back then how prominent Christianity was, even among Hollywood liberals. Just accepted. Right, yeah, just like a normal thing to be in a major movie. And now, not so much.

Dude, I wonder how much it's like in our subconsciouses. Like monogamy is like a Christian thing. No, no. I wouldn't. Well, I mean, it's not monogamy. Jesus, you know, all the Jesus. Like marriage as we know it is typically an Abrahamic religious institution. Like you can't go to the courthouse, but you were going to say.

So I think the fact, I think this ties into adam talking about the idea of confession even though he's not religious is because there are things that go under human understanding like the concept that you need to have a man and a woman and they need to be together and they need to be united by like a common cord and a cultural pressure to keep them together that's good for families families are good for the culture. You know, all of this stuff is underneath. It's not, I don't think it is just Abrahamic religion. I think it is part of the human experience.

I think there's something that you can't avoid. I think the feeling of guilt that we all get sometimes and the idea that Adam brings up about confessing is so, I don't know, like ingrained. You can't escape it. And I don't think it is fully religion. I think it's manifest religion. But the concept of sin itself is what I mean.

You think that's religious? No, no, no. Yes. The word sin is specific to Christianity, isn't it? Pride, lust. Yeah, yeah. I don't like the word sin itself. I mean, I don't know.

Maybe I'm wrong. There's virtues and sins in the Catholic faith. Yeah, in every faith. But is sin as a word, a concept outside of Christianity? Gosh, I'd like to know that. I believe it is, yeah. It is? I believe so.

So a sin is just an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law. Look up the etymology. The etymology? Hold on. The entymology, the bug. Oh, is that what I said? Etymology is right. Etymology.

Yeah. I said entymology. So it's from the Latin for guilty. Interesting. So it is not necessarily religious. It is just part of human nature. Oh, well, there you go. You learn something new every day.

Every religion has its own sins. Like certain religions would look at like debauchery as a sin. Whereas otherwise, because these things are bad for the culture. Debauchery is bad for the culture. People being drunk is bad for the culture. Eating, eating, eating pork. You could get sick exactly and sugar yeah and that was why god put the kibosh on it and stuff like shellfish in leviticus everyone thinks that's crazy but when they were eating it it could make and it often was a sin but then when they learned how to cook the the it became

less relevant yeah the hookworm out of it then it no longer was exactly well and the other part too was that god was that god was trying to keep his people separate from other people around them. He was trying to make them separate and holy and important and special to him. Well, do you guys know about the dawning of the Age of Aquarius? You have talked about this, yeah. Yeah, have you seen Zeitgeist? Yeah. I remember watching that where he's like, you know, what's the guy's name?

Peter Joseph? Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah. He's talking about how the Judaism was the age of Aries and they blow the ram's horn and that the next age was the age of Pisces, which we're in now and symbol of the fish. And so the new religion would, you know, the Jesus fish was a reference to the new age. Well, we're entering the age of Aquarius, the water bearer. So is wokeness the new religion that will take over? I don't think it's going to last. I don't, I just, it doesn't seem sustainable.

I don't think it can. Because it's built on fear and hate. Like it's, it's not about bringing people together. It's about. Sounds an awful lot like what they used to say about Christianity. No, this is a little bit different. So I know I was raised in Christianity and I know there are people who have left the church violently who say that it's nothing but fear and guilt. And there is a bit of that if you're not doing it right but I think

that basing it basing something on fear and guilt is in fact untenable I think that Christianity is not based on fear or guilt it's based on a whole a healthy respect for divine providence for God and for other humans and like Jesus if you break it down, the Christ consciousness is like, that's a good thing. But when you organize a religion, a business around it and try and profit off of the concept is when it starts to get dangerous. Yeah, you involve human greed and stuff. Yeah.

It's a problem. Yep. The very simple story of a dude who helped other dudes. Dude, if we could just behave like Jesus, like if everyone started behaving like that. That's like the whole point of Christianity. They're just like, just behave like this guy who was great. He was the son of God.

You're not perfect, but do the best you can and ask for forgiveness. Forgiveness, turn the other cheek. I would love it if the SCWs would turn the other cheek. I would love it if everyone did. It's like, good sir, I couldn't help but notice that you said a naughty word on Twitter. Well, I ask that you humbly take into consideration, but I will turn the other cheek and I will move on.

I'd be like, how nice. And they should get likes for that. If you could somehow get rewarded for not dissing on someone. But dude, humans are flawed. Dude, that's the Twitter, man. Twitter is a rage machine. Twitter is a video game where you try and figure out how to get the most points that's what retweets likes shares followers and guess what in order to get those you have to be

a mean person that's that's why that's why twitter started adding this thing where it's like are you sure you want to call this person a douchebag oh really seen that no still having that i don't know did they get rid of it i don't know but i never call people douchebags so it's like i don't know if it happens to other people. You'd respond to someone saying, shut your mouth, you dumb, you know, whatever. And it would be like, are you sure you want to say this to this person? What? That's awesome.

Dude, Twitter had an opportunity to get rid of these things. But Twitter is literally, it's where you go to get angry. Yeah. Lately, I have been. So I'll retweet a violent protest of a guy getting kicked in the gut. And then I'll do two of those. And then I'll retweet a baby smiling at the rainbow. Trying to keep it balanced there.

I'm trying. It's like one out of five joyous things. I'm trying to keep it some level of balance. I'll do philosophy. But no one likes people get angry when I try and be philosophical on Twitter. They're like, you moron. They're like, why aren't you insulting someone over something inane? Don't try and talk down to me. This is not

an arbitrary and generic insult. And then they insult you because of it. I got a really funny quick tidbit. On the show, I can't remember which show it was, I was talking about how conservatives are more attractive than liberals. Oh, I heard that.

It's true. I saw that tweet. So there's several studies that back this up. And there's a story from the Washington Post. Actually, I think for the sake of avoiding, you know. Vitriol. Misquoting, maybe. No, people being like, Tim's making this up. It's like, I'll just pull up the actual story.

There you go. Take a look. Oh. Oh, snap. Conservatives really are better looking this is just one of several studies and what's really funny about this is that uh it was a janky of the young turks was insulting me because I brought this up somebody took a clip of me saying that well you know when you go to the DNC you see overweight frumpy individuals when

you go to the RNC, you see tall, handsome or busty women. And that's just that's that's not an anecdote that's from me. It was from a feminist who was explaining to me the concept of privilege and how it breaks down between the political parties. If you go through life as handsome, attractive with, you know, tall and a deep voice and you're like ripped, people are going to do favors for you. They're gonna be nice to you. And you are going, you're going to be like, I don't want redistribution of my wealth. I've been able to do it on my own. This is just a general concept of privilege. And so I was actually referencing this. They just, so basically what happens is in the context of Twitter, even though you could simply Google search conservatives,

better looking, you would find numerous studies. There's one out of Cambridge that says people who are more attractive tend to have conservative political beliefs and become Republican. There's also another study that says in Europe, particularly this one referencing Finland, saying they rated they had people who didn't know the politicians of a certain country and asked them to rate appearance and found conservative political parties had more attractive members. So it's cause, not effect. They said that they don't know correlation or causation. But they found a correlation between, you know.

I would think like if you're good looking and life is handed to you more readily, that why would you want to change it? So you tend towards more conservation and keeping things the status quo. Independence. If I can do it on my own. If you're funky looking

and you got to break it all down. That's right, burn it all down, Portland, baby. So the main issue is, you get a bunch of people like, I'm talking about the host of the Young Turks, one of the biggest political networks. He didn't even take two seconds to Google search when I said, there's a study. He tweeted at me insulting my, you know, insulting me in my appearance, mocking me for, you know, wearing the beanie or whatever. Too hot for the beanie, yeah. And then he said, what study? And I'm like, the craziest thing is

I've not said a bad word about Cenk Uygur. Maybe it was critical of him because he yelled at me at Politicon a couple years ago. Oh, nice. Like he just got in my face with screaming. I'm like, dude. But I've not said anything bad about him or anybody else. So I'm like, why did he just decide to start insulting me?

And the crazy thing is... Because he wants to come on the show, man. No, no, no. No, it's because Twitter has turned people into hate mongers. So easy. They turn them into hate mongers. So here's his opportunity to dunk. If he did a simple Google search, he would have found that I was not trying to denigrate anyone.

I was referencing research. Also. But this is also like what was not included in his clip was me saying a feminist was explaining this concept yeah the clip was out of context it was three clips edited together right to make one long clip it was totally out of context of course of course and what he could have done was simply said i wonder if this is true instead he ends up with you know several hundred people all laughing and giggling amongst themselves and high-fiving each other about how smart they are,

even though I was actually referencing a real study. Right. Whether you want to agree with the study or not is irrelevant. There are several studies that say the same thing. And the point I was trying to bring up was privilege. If you are a privileged individual of great attractiveness, then you do not want to give up what you've gotten because of it. And they argued against the idea.

If he'd listened. The general idea, the reason I'm bringing this up is, you can get people to argue against their own ideology if they're dunking on you to be angry and hateful. Oh, good point. Be the fop. So here you have a bunch of leftists who are the ones advocating for this concept of privilege, arguing against that very concept because it was an opportunity to insult me and earn points.

Oh, wow. Right. This says to me, you know, Twitter is a tribalist machine that trains people to find a tribe, disregard principle and insult someone else. You get retweets, you get likes, you get followers. That's why we have Trump reply guys. They have nothing of substance to add, but they are tribalists who say Trump is bad and they get followers.

Then they say PayPal me and they make money. Amazing. Do you like that there's no downvote on Twitter? I don't know if that, I mean, actually maybe there should be. What I don't like is that when you open someone's tweet, you'll see like your algorithmic top tweet. And so the left and the right see different things.

Oh, wow. People you follow. Right. That's very echo chambery. Exactly. So if we did upvotes and downvotes on replies, then it'd be a much more interesting space. Much more interesting.

And I think it's not so cut and dry as to say who would dominate left or right. I think there'd be instances where the right would upvote crazy and the left would upvote crazy. And you'd see a little bit back and forth. It also, I think, could actually help the left get more exposure to the right, which they need, because the right has exposure to the left, but it's not so the other way around. So more importantly, I'm just like, I roll my eyes when I see, you know, Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks has a massive network. They get something like 50 million views per month.

And is this the nature of his work that when someone calmly references some research on like a podcast, that he turns it into a rage click without research. And so he's misinforming his audience. They're all thinking that they're so much smarter and better. And the crazy thing was how they were insulting my appearance. I'm like, but I did not directly insult anybody. I said, you tend to see this, the RNC, you tend to see it at the DNC. And it was actually a feminist who made a video about this explaining it. i don't think that was in the video was it i think it all

came from because it was out of context they didn't see the study and what you're talking about well i didn't show the study yeah because it was like you know i once read a study and you know basically what they said was and instead of doing a google search to be like i wonder if that's true they immediately just say let's drum up hate for money. It's like the ability to make snap judgments about people and things is very, like, read the title, but don't read the article and make a comment. Like, that's dangerous, but maybe necessary for evolution. Like, we have to be able to make quick snap judgments to survive.

I think information is traveling so fast it didn't travel this way before you know uh I think were we talking about world war one or something where it was like it would take weeks for the messages to come back to the U.S. for you to even know what was going on that's crazy now there was a crazy video where you had gopro footage from a tank and from the people shooting at the tank yeah amazing interesting story. And some news organization put the clips together, and they're like, for the first time, you have video footage from both sides of an active conflict. Oh, good.

So this is coming in really, really quickly. So what ends up happening is, back in the day, what did you have to read? You didn't have Twitter. You had a pamphlet that came and has three things to say on it. You're going to read all of it because there ain't nothing else to read. Now, I got 5,000 tweets every minute. What's the firehose on Twitter is ridiculous. So you're just like

flipping through like, oh, I can only read a few things. And people are just being, it's information overload. So what's crazy is there's a, I love how there's like this idea of the grifter. When I was talking to a friend of mine, he was like, bro, you just make, you know, angry videos insulting Democrats because it's your business model. You know what you're doing. And I'm like, I know what I'm doing and that I have an opinion.

And I was like, and you posting your complaints on social media is literally the same thing. The only difference is I do it as a job and you do it endlessly all day for posting memes, I guess. I don't know. Also speaking on video is very different. It takes a certain level of confidence and it changes you to communicate via video. I mean,

that's a powerful medium. I just, I just mean like one of the things that's happening right now is that there's no way I could know everything. So of course I get things wrong all the time. I'm a dude who's giving his opinion on, on main, on, on major news, trying to use certified sources and do my best to fact check. And there are people who are like, Tim's misinforming people. And I'm like, and so is the Young Turks. And so is Steven Crowder. And so is so is everybody is getting something wrong. Everybody is doing this. It's a very, very different ecosystem. They can argue it's bad. Maybe it really is. I don't know what the solution is. It seems necessary, whatever it is. We're all trying to assert like, actually, this is true because of this reason and then someone say no tim's wrong and here's why yeah it's like trying

to be right is less important than trying to be honest yeah trying to win i think trying to win for your tribe that's something that makes me nervous about trump's because he talks about winning and it makes me like really nervous i don't like it i don't like i don't like the idea of tribes and i don't like or i i don't care about tribes i don't like the i don't like i don't like the idea of of tribes and i don't like or i i don't care about tribes i don't like the i don't want to be in anyone's tribe i want i'm gonna go build my own shack in the middle of the woods now you know with a little river and a dog you leave me alone you know i'm gonna do my thing you do yours very very very libertarian just let me just leave me alone is the dog in your tribe yes that's his entire tribe he wants to be in

your tribe this is what i've talked about i'm i'm very left libertarian in the sense that i'm all about having a hippie farm we have our own little farm we have a small group of people we share we get along everything's great leave us alone it doesn't work in a grand scale like libertarianism you know with big cities but that's what that's what i'm do you leave me alone and we're gonna share you know our fruits and veggies and you know we just got we got a bunch of jalapenos. It just came from the garden. It sounds great. So many.

Shout out all those new peppers. We got ghost peppers. FYI. Delicious. For the win. Those are amazing. Spicy though. They're like, they smell like green pepper, but I think they're red.

I have no idea. They're hot. Spicy. Yeah. And they make new peppers out of like ghost peppers. So like a lot of these really hot peppers are ghost pepper uh amalgams you know what do they call it when they blend hybrid yeah hybrids yeah i have no idea what i was talking about all my peppers emotions and being a youtuber

like having the burden of trying to communicate no no just like just just how people uh everyone thinks they're right and everyone else is wrong and the challenge now is that even with people like me where i produce content i'm just one perspective and so that's why i'm often telling people you got to watch other shows too because otherwise i'm probably missing a big piece of the picture i'm just one person this is where the left comes up short because they're telling you brian stelter and this guy in that video we watched earlier stop watching fox news dude screw you watch every single news source so that you can form your Because they're telling you, Brian Stelter and this guy in that video we watched earlier, stop watching Fox News. Dude, screw you.

Watch every single news source so that you can form your own opinion. And I'm constantly listening to people and I'm trying to find what little bit of truth they have to tell me. Because 90% of it is their opinion and there's a little bit of truth in there and I'll take it and I'll use it. You know why I really want people to watch every news source? Because if you have somebody who only watches Fox News and then they watch CNN, and then you have somebody who only watches CNN and then they watch Fox News, both of them are going to go,

CNN is lying. Oh, good point. Yeah. CNN is notoriously bad journalism. Oh, it's, yes. My favorite was when Don Lemon was talking to a panel and he goes, a lot of people on the internet are talking about, you know, black holes.

And I know it's preposterous, but, you know, Mary, is it preposterous? That is the missing Malaysian airplane, right? Oh, that it fell into a black hole? Yeah, yeah. And then the woman goes, oh, you know, even a small black hole would swallow the whole universe. It just got worse. You know what, man? And then I was watching Fox and friends one morning and they had a priest

on to talk about how evolution wasn't real oh right right right yeah fox and news but uh but i'll tell you what prime time i think tucker carlson does a really really really good job yeah he's he's carrying the torch man he really is i'm impressed and did you see when john stewart just basically browbeat him back in the day it was when tucker had a great reckoning he used to wear a bow tie. It was Crossfire. Yeah. They had Jon Stewart on the show,

and Jon Stewart made a mockery out of Tucker, and Tucker just took it. He just listened to him because he had a lot of respect for Jon, and it changed his mind, and he became a better journalist after that. Yeah, Tucker's changed a lot for the better, for sure. He had a segment i think last year where he was anti-pot legalization and it felt forced i was like you don't really believe this like we should definitely legalize pot and get these non-violent offenders out of jail i'm sure

i wonder where he's at today on that because if trump came out right now and said we're doing an executive order non-violent offenders will be reviewed pardoned released full commute you know sentence commuted and expunged. It's landslide. Yeah, easily. Landslide. Yes. But you know, Biden's talking about that.

Oh, good for him. Yep. Yep. Is it credit where credit's due? I don't like, I don't think I would. Good point. Kamala Harris, though, threw a bunch of people in jail for it.

I know. And laughed about it. Yeah. But to be fair, what did Pence do? What did Pence do, right? Not much. It's true. And he was in a smaller state than Kamala was.

I'm being facetious. Oh, what did he do? do he was the he was the governor of Indiana yeah so he so the reason I bring him up is because to be completely honest I should be able to be like actually hear things that but I don't know anything about Pence I wonder if that's why Donald Trump picked him because he's a kind of a silent Indiana or something so he's been criticized for his stance on like homosexuality and stuff like that that's the most that I know. And I know Kamala Harris has been dragged heavily. But it is fair to say, look, there was a post someone made about Joe Biden wanting to legalize pot and release nonviolent offenders. And he's had it for a while. And I'm like, that's a great thing.

That is absolutely a good thing. The only problem is I just don't think he's a real candidate. Like Joe Biden could come out and say everything that Trump is saying. And I'd still say, bro, you're a flashlight with dying batteries. That's a good analogy. That's Joe Rogan's. Yeah, that was brilliant. And so I actually was thinking about it. And the way I described it was if I had to go into a dark cave and my choice between a flashlight with dying batteries and a torch that could burn me, I got to take the torch, man. The torch is going the torch man the torch is going to be consistent it's going to work it's going to be hot it's

going to be dangerous but i know it will keep the light going yeah the light's the most important thing in that yeah and and the flashlight's better tech it's it's you know it just you need the batteries man it's not going to work what if you could have a dying flashlight or a gorilla with a headlight strapped to its forehead? I'm seeing the comparison. Yeah, I like it. Man. I follow that gorilla. He's like his half for me.

He's the gorilla, my friend. Well, it's up to you. He fights for you. He's going to, like, kill me. I've never been that close to a gorilla. Well, hopefully we're friends. We've grown up together, and we're on an adventure together, and's leading the way he has your best interests in mind oh excellent then he'll fight off the the morlocks and the mole people homie yeah totally i could use that strength

all right let's go to super chats because we we always go live along we got laughing man laughing man that is an excellent avatar and an excellent name i love ghost in the show he says do you think we are seeing a doubling down of race theory from the left since Trump essentially cut off the dragon's head by taking it out of schools? How do they counter this kind of attack from Trump? Please share. What is this? No mail-in vote. Change.org, no mail-in vote. I don't know if they're doubling down. I will say the media, because if Trump came out and was like, ladies and gentlemen, pizza is great. My favorite is deep dish from Chicago. They'd be like, pizza is great. My favorite is deep dish from Chicago. They'd be like, pizza is bad.

Oh, my God. Why is Trump talking about pizza? What's he trying to say? They would be on board with Pizzagate in two seconds if Trump slipped up. Like anything Trump says is they're against. A question regarding this. So critical race theory. Trump said it's out of government offices, government trainings.

So does that mean it's out of school, like public schools, which are government organizations? It's a good question. I don't think so. But they should absolutely have some kind of mandate from the Department of Education. Well, this is something he was talking about.

He was talking about defunding the schools that teach the 1619 Project, which I was like, yes, please. Get rid of all that. That's part of critical race, 1619 Project. It's entirely Critical Race. It's revisionist history. They argue that America truly began

in the year 1619 with the first slave arriving and it's just... Oh, in 1620 was Plymouth Rock or something? It's just total bunk. It's just nonsense. And the lady who wrote it even said it wasn't really history. Yeah, it was just how it could have been. Literally like a parallel universe.

Alternate reality. Brandon Toms says, instead of people's attractiveness affecting their political leanings, what if people's political leanings affect their attractiveness? Imagine going through life thinking everyone owes you something. It's got to affect how you look over time. That's actually a really good point, but a better example is, imagine if you take two people who are kind of doughy, right? And you tell one person, it's your responsibility and you have to work hard. And you tell the other person,

it's not your fault. It's because of all the drinks they made you eat. How do you think those people would develop? The person who was told it's their responsibility, they're going to be like, I better start eating better and working out. The other person is going to be like, it's not my fault. And I could see stress can make you ugly. I mean, stress can make you contorted and grow in weird ways. Like Voldemort at the last Harry Potter scene. All because of stress. When he was all shriveled up.

Totally, a stress-induced shrivel. Millennials love their Harry Potter references. That's the joke. I love those books. What is this getting? Oh, I guess the mouse is getting stuck. All right, what do we got here? Gareth Green says, I thought saving money love their Harry Potter references. That's the joke. I love those books. What is this getting? Oh. Mouse is getting stuck. Alright, what do we got here? Gareth Green says, I thought saving money rather than spending it was a virtue.

Moreover, the idea of individual liberty is that everyone has the right to their own property, including money, so long as they haven't actually stolen it. What was that? Waving at Betsy. Sorry, I didn't mean to be distracting. Oh, you were waving at the cat. Yes, I was. I was like, are you trying to alert me? I was not. No, it's very important that I wave to the cat.

I'm sorry, guys. She loved it. Shadi Viceroy says, I wonder if y'all are noticing that Asians and white people are being forced to work harder to go to college, therefore making those folk more conservative. I don't know. Perhaps, perhaps. I will say the interesting thing about the non-POC space is that depending on who you ask, Asians are or aren't people

of color. That's a weird one. That's why it was interesting that it wasn't a whites-only space specifically. Right. Because I'm wondering, like, does that mean an Asian person could go there? Or an albino? I have a good friend that's an African-American descent, but he's albino. That's a great question.

How does that work? He just looks super... Victor. Oh, I know, I know, I know. But how does that... I don't know. He doesn't look... He's, like, lighter skinned than I am.

But he does identify as black. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it's interesting. Which is a color, a shade, which is so bizarre how does that... He doesn't look... He's like lighter skinned. But he does identify as black. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it's interesting. Which is a color, a shade, which is so bizarre to me. Man, he's this language. Stupid. Yeah, it's weird.

It's really stupid. Reductive. Yeah. I don't know, man. Everything's weird and crazy. Let's see. Matthew Hammond says... Well, okay.

I guess this question was for Will, but Will didn't end up actually making it. But he's asking that, do you agree that last night's rally in North Carolina was Trump's best ever? Best ever. I have heard that. It was great. Really? I heard it was great. I'll tell you this, man. I just heard Trump tell Woodward that he's drinking the Kool-Aid on white privilege. I'm here for that.

And I'm like, ooh, I'm voting for this guy. This is going to be good. You know, hey, man. Push back on that stuff. That's right. Josh Greshner says, really enjoying the podcast the podcast tim are you still taking guest recommendations would love to see maj tour on your show sometime he's a great 2a advocate for 2a and founder of black guns matter oh yeah for sure he's on my short list i don't think i can message him but yeah we'll figure something out yeah that'd be cool i think i may have met him actually in texas i'm not sure you got to get a hold of him oh well we'll try and figure it out.

Yeah. I was in Texas and I met a guy who had a Black Guns Matter shirt and he was like walking around with a gun. Super chill. And then it was funny because he walked up to some like right wing militia looking dudes and they were like laughing and talking together. And I was just like, you see, it's not about race. It's just people, you know. And if a guy's like, hey, man, it's a really cool gun or whatever. And they talk and they hang out and they were getting along. I can't stand racists, man. it's just people you know and if the guy's like hey man it's a really cool gun or whatever and they talk and they hang out and they were getting along i can't stand racist man just want to just

want to hang out with people and have a smile and have a good time all right sam g says timbo thanks for debunking the french cemetery hoax by bringing it up jason leopold from buzzfeed and his and his backfire foyer request that being said how credible overall would you consider anonymous sources and it's tough i typically don't like them but it's like imagine uh here's the problem with anonymous sources what if i said an anonymous source confirmed to me that donald trump is a lizard person who was it you well that's my wait i'm i'm the anonymous source yes asking who the anonymous source was? Mind twist. I know, meta. So the point is, here's the way I talk about anonymous sources. You have a dude

comes out with a report and he's like, breaking news, multiple sources confirm Donald Trump, you know, stole a bag of diamonds from a jewelry store. And then people are like,

who are these sources? They are people who are very familiar with the incident and were very close to at the time of occurring. The thieves. And it turns out it's like a group of homeless guys who are sleeping in an alley behind the

jewelry store. They saw Trump leave with a bunch of jewels that he bought and paid for. But then you say, well, these guys were there. They saw Trump and we know Trump was there. This is confirmed. And then here's the best part. So Trump didn't steal anything. They just asserted it because they assumed it. journalist thinks it's true my favorite part another news organization

then says we need to independently verify this is true so they go to the alley see the homeless guys and say hey did you tell the washington post that trump's they go yeah we did confirmed so they just want to know that they asked they don't even ask him if they if they if he did it again they don't go to the store and ask the store owner has anything been stolen they don't go to the police and say had these things been stolen they say this source claimed donald trump did a backflip off of the eiffel tower and landed perfectly in a superhero pose shattering the earth beneath his feet and then the person who claimed that is like a crazy guy in the in the alley going super hero landing so when like the new york times gets an anonymous source and then the like a crazy guy in the in the alley going Donald Trump back above the Eiffel Tower a superhero

landing so when like the New York Times gets an anonymous source and then the Washington Post wants to confirm it do they go to the New York Times and then they get special access they they try and track down the source so it's supposed to be an independent verification would be like if someone claimed Trump stole a bag of jewels you'd hit up the jewelry store and say was a bag of jewels stolen from your store by the president and And if they say yes, you say, well, this is the guy telling me it literally happened. He told them that. But then you'd have to go to the police and get evidence. So can you show me footage of it happening? Can you show? So you need like three sources to confirm the store owner. So it typically could refer to like multiple people. But let's say you have the police chief saying, yeah, we definitely, we're tracking the store.

We got the police report. Here's what they said. Here are the witnesses. And we've seen the evidence. Or you've got a homeless guy in the back alley, the store owner, and the cop who responded. And so you ask to the homeless guy, what did you see? I saw Donald Trump run out of this building carrying a bag of jewels. Interesting.

You said, go to the store owner. Yeah, Donald Trump came in here, smashed the glass, stole the bag of jewels. Then you go to the cop. I was sitting in front of my car. I saw Trump come in carrying a hammer. I hear a smash. And then the store owner starts screaming. That sounds like you've got pretty good confirmation. You'd still want to be very careful on a story like that about the president. They are so like their, the bar is on the floor wow there's no limbo here man you would have to like ant-man down to the sub sub you know to the quantum realm to try limbo under that bar the standards are so low is this because there's no punishment for getting it wrong

definitely there's actually a reward for getting it wrong if i put out a story right now if i was like breaking news everyone donald trump did a triple backflip off the white house landed in a superhero pose million views i get all that money from ad revenue and then and then i wait a day and i go we have a correction six in the morning we have a correction issue donald trump didn't actually do the backflip and uh we're sorry for the error i still got the views i still made the money i pay nothing back and the retraction makes money, too. Oh, my gosh. It's they're incentivized to actually lie. Well, or be flippant with their their their absolute truth. The media is mainstream media is not in the business of providing you with truth. They're in the business of getting your attention.

So they're better off letting bunk stories go through because they will make tons of money. And then they just gotta apologize if it's wrong. But the best part is when they were like, Donald Trump called World War I, you know, the World War I dead losers. And I'm like, get out of here, man.

I don't believe that. Yeah, you gotta be skeptical. You've got Trump derangement syndrome to believe that Donald Trump's sitting there looking at graves and going, what a bunch of losers. Like, that's a comic book villain version of Trump written by a 15 year old who was like and then the orange man said the veterans were losers and suckers he's not a villain i think this is the point is he's not a comic book villain he's like a real guy doing his

best i don't tell do you can you can you picture any person anyone ever looking at a grave and going what a loser no no like what this this world view they have of the president is just nonsense did he actually say something about world war one death being losers so like the side that lost the war or something the story well we i'm pretty sure we won world war one yeah the allied forces right so the technically nobody won that war it was right exactly so the the official story was that trump canceled his trip to the ayn marne cemetery because he thought the veterans were losers and suckers and didn't want to get his hair wet it's been confirmed by numerous sources that's

not true 21 sources oh my gosh is that what it was at last count it was 21 different sources john bolton who hates trump defended, saying that's not true. We canceled this because of rain. I was there. I heard him saying it. And they were like, but maybe maybe a different point. Trump said it. He goes, I can't prove a negative.

Maybe someone said something. But I was there. And this didn't happen. I had a really I have a really good friend who a few years ago was like, you know, it's OK to use dirty tactics to get him out of office. I was like, dude, that's what the Italian fascists did. They decided to use violence because they thought it was so office i was like dude that's what the italian fascists did they decided to use violence because they thought it was so bad they had they had it was okay they justified and you saw where it led you can't do that oh did you see what noam chomsky

said no not he was asked about antifa and this like it's funny how they really don't like the guy anymore because he's pro free speech and he's anti-violence he's great he said he's a clean slate he said when we entered the arena of violence the most brutal guy wins and that is not us and i was like here here good sir you do not want to see the true like brute of a whole bunch of like right-wing militias that are trained that are hungry you know i was saying is that you got to be careful there i think many of the militias we've seen throughout this country are really just overhyped by the press. They're like, oh, no, militias. I'm like, it's a regular guy with a gun and a vest and like his friends in his community.

And they're armed and they're defending their community. It's not that big of a deal. There are extremist groups, however, who want any excuse to purge their ideological enemies. That's it. It makes me nervous when they start running for office. That's when I start. Well, who's running for office? Some girl was running for office that was like saying they were Black Lives Matter was

a great thing and that we need to support it. And like, I don't know where it was. I don't have the data in front of me. The left is entertaining extremists like there's a mayoral candidate in Portland who says she's overtly Antifa. We've seen all the violence from these people. That's when you got to start paying attention. But the conservatives are getting rid of these people.

They're like, we don't want them around. Yeah. And so I'm like, if I have to have president trump and a bunch of republicans who i really disagree with but at least we all agree on the fact this country exists i have no choice i think you can't vote for joe biden because he's actually negotiating with people who have these insane views and entertain violence and then he's trying to come off like but i'm tough on crime yeah you were but now you're just like falling asleep yeah he's lame if you compare him to like seven years ago he was so sharp back in 2011 2012 yeah who was it that was saying he's declined just over the last four years

I think nine million people I think he's chilled out yeah he has I think he's like he used to be very angry yeah you know he was like insulting people and mocking them. He still does a little bit, but he's really chilled out. When was that article from that he said the Kool-Aid? Was that from a long time ago? I think that was recent, actually. Yeah, that was from June. But that's a private phone call.

In these days, that's a long time. It's a private phone call. Right. I'm talking about, like, he did a press conference recently where he was like, I'm not going to insult this person. They'll get mad at me. And I was like, hey, that's pretty good you know you're figuring it out you know dude here's uh so so here's like here's a good one evil me says nice job with

your earlier video today tim you snuck in a rick roll yes i heard that i enjoy your sense of humor and enjoy seeing it more often i said something like you know trump supporters are never gonna you know let trump down they're never gonna you know hurt him or something yeah it was great i was giggling just in the flow that was that was great but my point was was was still apt with the 100 correct yeah they're die hard yeah i don't know if that's the right phrase yeah oh this is a sad one cody evans says a person is smart people are dumb panicky dangerous animals and you know it agent k yeah men in black they are wild animals less government is more says tim you're a liberal with american ideals i love it how do i go through your vetting process to be a normal person guest on your show i like everyone have a story and opinions thank you we are not yet

there so uh to the point where we're actually going to be trying to find you know some regular people you've heard us talk about this right no not. We just want to get regular people on the show. Yeah, dude. Like Bob, the local gardening guy. Oh, we should get gardeners and stuff. Yeah, just like working class people. You know what I mean? Yeah, man.

The neighbors. Because I'm particularly anti-elitist. I hate the establishment elites. I hate all that. And I want to hear what... Look, there's a lot of regular people who are going to be like, I have no idea. But there's going to be a lot of regular people who are going to say things like, look, my taxes because of this bill. I was talking to a dude

about the minimum wage law in New Jersey, and he was talking about how it devastated a whole bunch of businesses. He's like, listen, man, we got a bunch of small businesses that don't make money. Like they make just enough for everyone to get a little bit. And the business owners make just above minimum wage, the same as the employees. And then when they raise the minimum wage, all of a sudden, now the business goes under immediately. Because you got to understand it's not just about paying those wages. It's about the taxes that go on top. Oh, wow. Because employers have to pay a tax too. Oh, on top of the wage. So the taxes go up as well. Yep. Yep. So a lot of people don't know this. Employers pay a portion of the taxes for the employees to the government.

So the employer and the employee split a tax. I forgot what the percentage is. And so they were like, now these businesses are looking at increasing the cost of their wages. But the business isn't increasing. It's an artificial increase over time. And then they're looking at the taxes on top of how much they pay have to go up too. So it's not just the wage hike. It's the wage plus tax.

And so that was really interesting. It was a regular person. You know, I was thinking, oh, what if the government covered the tax hike? Would that be, or just subsidize it? Like not impose it? But subsidize means they tax somebody for money to cover, you see what I'm saying?

You're just basically saying they should tax something else. Or what if they just don't add a tax to the minimum wage hike? Now you're speaking my language. Well, it's because it's the employment tax. That would be a major overhaul of the system. And at what point would they restore it?

Or just keep the employment tax at what it was for like $8.95 an hour and don't add for the next $7.50. It's not just that. Imagine you have a restaurant where your margins are razor thin. I know what you mean. And then all of a sudden your staff is getting a 10%, 20%, 30% increase. Right. And you're like, we don't have that. We barely break even.

Yeah. Now your business is gone. Interesting. So this is why. That's the danger of socializing businesses. Well, it's a danger of increasing the minimum wage. Let's see. Christian Robertson says, forgot to say, but if you visit Norway, visit Storfjord in Northern

and stay at my hotel for free. I just love how you spread the truth and you deserve all the support you get. That sounds fun. If I ever make it that way. I was in Bergen. I think I was just in Bergen. It's the only place I've been to.

I made a little video about it. This is crazy. I made a video about the, it's called, I think it's called the Isdal Woman, the Ice Woman of Norway. Oh, I remember this. And then we went to look back at it.

And it was gone. What, the video? What happened? I didn't delete it. I loved this video. The Ice Woman. So in Bergen, Norway, there's a woman who was found

like up in the mountains. We went there. And she was found dead. And they said it was like a smoke inhalation or something. It's been a while since I filmed this video. And some theories are that

she was an Israeli spy tracking down former nazis whoa yeah i think i've heard of that crazy story i made a video about it we interviewed local experts one day i got someone was telling me that a bunch of my videos were gone and i went i was trying to look for the video to show someone because i love that video it's really old gone dude i saw a crazy video of an israeli soldier beating an american and she was screaming, I'm an American, stop, what are you doing? And he was throwing her around, and the video disappeared. Yep.

Wild. Yeah. Why did my video on the Isdal woman disappear? I don't know. That's weird. Conspiracy theories abound. I remember that. Why do videos disappear at all?

Oh, that's a great question. I would like to know that. Because YouTube's like, this offends me. Because someone owns this private company. Because as we all know, that the headquarters for youtube is on a mountain it's like it's like a it's like a mountain a cliffside and there's like a winding road up to a giant you know transylvanian style dracula castle and they're sitting in big evil gothic looking chairs and they're like now who will we ban today from youtube and the ice woman's like the man that

made a video about no they're looking at a monitor there's like a grandma holding a cat and woman's like, the man that made a video about me. No, they're looking at a monitor and there's a grandma holding a cat. And it's like grandma's cat channel. And they're like. And then grandma's sitting at home with her cat. And she's like, I made just enough money this month to pay for my medical bills. And then YouTube goes. And they're like, oh. The AI algorithm that's on a rampage right now.

The Terminator's not going to be walking around shooting people. He's going to be banning and censoring people. Dude, that's how it started started i don't know if you saw terminator 1.5 you want to know what's crazier terminator terminator look we're not we're never going to see a world where robots march around killing people you want to know what the world's going to be a bunch of nano drones going into your ears nope it's going to be you waking up being like i i i you're gonna look at your phone and you're gonna see stuff and it's gonna perfectly predict and manipulate your behavior to where you're like i need to go to the store and buy

you know a a shovel oh because they want to work synergistically with us the ai doesn't want to destroy us it wants to use us but but well i don't i think if you're talking about like a total sentient ai i'm talking about if we made an ai it's not gonna have emotions and feelings and goals like we do you know have you seen the, you ever watch Doctor Who? Only a couple episodes. There's one where they go to this planet where there's a colony and there's no humans. And it turns out the goal of the robots was to keep people happy. But when someone died, everyone got sad. And then the robots realized that if a sad person came in contact with a happy person, happy person became sad.

You know why? Because they told the happy person someone died. So they decided the only way to stop this was to kill the sad people. Uh-oh. But then it makes the other people sad. Uh-oh. So they had to walk around with fake smiles like, I'm happy. I'm happy.

Interesting. Yeah. So the AIs, their goal is not going to be like we imagine it. It's not going to be a giant machine being like, I'm the overlord of humanity. Do as I say. It's going to be like people like eating corn. And then it's going to shift our economy into a corn economy. And you're not going to realize it.

You're going to be sitting one day in your house made of corn with corn everywhere. And you're going to be like, life is good. Yeah, it's kind of where it's at now with Google Maps. Or just with Twitter and Facebook and the weird things we believe like we're we're going like we're going to ai hell man dude the ads that pop up totally brainwash us yes whether we realize it or not yeah man be vigilant homies here we go seven crevel says check out officer tatum talk about brianna tay. Just put out an update. Truth isn't what everyone is saying. Love your work and would love to be on the show.

So we're getting really close to relocating. They've literally got to lay the cables for fiber optic. Otherwise, we just don't have the internet to do it. I'm going to be doing a trial run this weekend to see if I can get internet to work. But it's risky because it's really crummy internet. And we need a good consistent feed to actually upload the live show. We should have enough. We'll give it a try.

I just don't want to risk it. Philippi says, villains who twirl their mustache are easy to spot. Those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well camouflaged. Vigilance. This is the price we must continually pay. Vigilance. The energy that you use glucose sugar yeah i have a book called willpower and it all comes down to glucose really yeah they would do they would do like studies where they do simple math problems and they would give a kid like lemonade before they did it or nothing and the kids that did

nothing would just lose interest and glucose is fuel for the brain man yeah yeah energy brian bourgeois says we all need to band together and realize we all have more in common than we have different trump is not part of the club and why they msm and establishment politicians hate him definitely kudos akapat says new segregation is no accident it's an outgrowth of guilty desire for atonement via what they perceive the oppressed want they think it will satiate but without forgiveness first there can't be peace referendum was it uh ref rem christianics a concept of grace versus justice mike carbone says the more you pet the cat and tell me your ideas the more devious i think you guys are yeah ian's got betsy on his lap and he's like i believe believe we should tax the poor.

Remember when Bloomberg, did you see Bloomberg said tax the poor? No, what happened? He literally said the poor people are too stupid. We should tax the poor. What? That guy is disillusioned. Dude.

He's distanced. Simias I says, the dictionary definition of a cult is a social group that is defined by its unusual religious, spiritual, or philosophical beliefs, or it can be defined as a common interest in particular personality. Interesting.

Here we go. Tim, etymology of sin goes further back to ancient Greece. It means to miss the mark. It means an inability to be morally perfect. It's not just about violating the religious creed. Yeah, Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson talks about that. Peter Ton. Peter Ton. Peter Ton. That's a cool name. I religious creed. Yeah, Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson talks about that. Peter Ton.

Peter Ton. Peter Ton. That's a cool name. I like that. All right, let's see. Where are we at? We got a big old jump in super chats. Politically Defiant says, Lydia, do you watch any faith-based animations like Adventures

in Odyssey, Veggie Tales, or Nest Productions like Swan Princess? Yeah, I used to watch that stuff. I used to watch that stuff. I had no choice. Like with Parents Night Out or whatever, we had to watch all of those. Veggie Tales? I didn't know that was religious. No, Veggie Tales is very religious.

Wow. It's very cute, though. The Jim says, hey, Tim, venting about living in California. I fought to get out of debt, and now I finally have a stable job and opportunities. Everything is going bad. Torn on bailing or running for office. P.S. Would still love to see you talk with Don from Plebeian Media.

I am not familiar with them. You know who they are? Nope. I gotta look them up. Run for office. Do it. Make a difference. I'll tell you what. It was basically what Billy Prempeh was saying when he was here. He's a conservative running in North Jersey where it's deep blue. He's like,

he's basically saying if the Republicans ignore these deep blue areas, there will never be a change. So you might not win, but you need to keep talking to people, shaking hands and challenging the establishment. It's scary and almost painful to speak the truth in front of people that don't agree with you because of the blowback. But like if you don't do it, I mean, this is the great human conundrum. We have to speak truth to power, which can be, you know, it can be. It's hard.

Yeah. You have to rise to the occasion. But it's worth it. I think if we don't do it, we kind of see what happens, you know. Yeah, absolutely. In the metaphor of what's going on right now. So someone asks, let's see, Mandalore says, were there plans to have Viva Frey on? There are, in fact, plans to have him on.

So they're a little bit on hold because of the quarantine. He can't really cross the border. Oh, he's in Canada. Yeah, he is in Canada. Poor guy. But we are going to get him on. That is just up in the air right now. Cool.

Ty 991 says, Tim, you have no idea. You don't see the real right wing militias. They don't advertise. These are dudes who train every day and run, shoot houses. If they actually come out, they're stacking up for high. Interesting. All right, we got one more. We got one more. Coin Flip Wolf says, seriously, how do people not think these rioters are terrorists? Have we gotten so far into 1984 that people can't see what's right in front of them? Yeah, when they go to houses,

when they jump on top of them, when they do the fist in front of your face when they go to houses when they jump on top of them when they when they do the fist in front of your face and demand you salute when they threaten to start fires this is the crazy thing like they've been starting fires all throughout oregon and now there's wildfires everywhere dude not smart that's domestic i think when they went to the restaurant i'm not saying they started the fire right right that was like domestic terrorism in my view you know that's politically motivated that's what we have Homeland Security for. That's the real reason we have it. Look at you, you hippie. No.

I value authority now on another level. No, it's different, right? I had a guild in Ultima Online. Did you guys ever play Ultima Online? No, I vaguely remember it, though. My guild didn't want to go to war.

There's a guild that wanted to go to war with my guild. I was like, we're a peace guild, so I wouldn't do it. And this other guild kept killing off our members, and I wouldn't go fight back. And all my people started, so I wouldn't do it. And this other guild kept killing off our members, and I wouldn't go fight back. And all my people started leaving because I wouldn't fight back.

And after that, I realized there is a value to stamping your fist down. What have you done? I was going to spin it. You broke the UFO. And clamping down with authority. There's just a value to that that's like, if you don't do it, then everything will fall apart. You know, when I play Civilization, I never declare war on other countries i mind my own business but i assure you you come to my shores i will crush you yes but how far do you go do you take all of their land

if it depends on how egregious their uh their disrespect is so uh in in some circumstances i'll just raise the city i. I don't want your cities. I've got like, I'll build my civilization. I always very much prioritize research to build up like power, weapons, and better forces. And then when they start, you know, getting acting a fool, you know, at first I'll just say, hey, hey, but if they keep pushing, I'll just crush their capital. You know, you can't raise the capital though. But I'll just like wipe out some of their cities and be like, now I'm going to go back and mind my own business

and you stay away from me. It doesn't bode well because I guess the AI for civilization doesn't understand these complex political things. Everyone gets mad at you and they're like, you killed people. Oh, if you take it too far. They invaded my country and tried stealing one of my cities. So I went back and I told them to F off.

Your response was, this is kind of like the real world with total war. Like if there's an invasion or like a bomber bombs a city, you don't nuke the Capitol as a response because you don't take total, you have a equal response. Right. And so the game kind of has that built in, but I do the same.

I'll take their entire country. If they mess with me, I'll take over every city of theirs, assimilate. Assimilate, you declare war. Now you're a peaceful country. You made the final mistake. And'll take over every city of theirs. Assimilate. Assimilate. You declare war. Now you're a peaceful country. You made the final mistake. And then you end up winning because everyone attacked you. Anyway, we're going to wrap it up.

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But I'm going to try. All right, all right. It's'm going to try. All right. It's not going to work. We've got to go feed the cats, everybody. Thanks for hanging out. We'll be back tomorrow at 8 p.m. And we will see you all then.