Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #131 - BLM Leftist Arrested For Igniting Wildfire, Democrats Say its Climate Change

Episode Date: September 11, 2020

The story of fires being started in Puyallup, Washington raise questions about who may be committing arson (and why), the rule of law is called into question, the Oathkeepers have been banned from Twitter while far-left calls to violence remain on the platform, showing that the left may well win the civil war if they successfully control the information, and a student is arrested for attempting to attend school against the lockdown.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How's it going, everybody? Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast. We got some crazy news right now. I'm, I, we have like a, I feel like we have a confirmation on this story. A Black Lives Matter leftist arrested for starting a fire. We don't, I don't believe it's arson. It may actually be, but we've got these wildfires sweeping across the West Coast and this story is crazy, but I've pieced a bunch of things together. There's other people who have already worked on this story. For some reason, local outlets aren't giving out the guy's name, but you put two and two together like a Sudoku puzzle. You can put the numbers up. We see this guy is actually a Black Lives Matter. He had been arrested previously at a protest

years ago. There's videos of him at various protests. I don't know. I don't think it means he's like a dedicated, hardcore kind of like Black Lives Matter person. And we don't know. I don't think it means he's like a dedicated, hardcore kind of like Black Lives Matter person. And we don't know if it's arson. But because this is kind of like going crazy and now there's apparently like armed dudes coming out and guarding these dry areas. We definitely got to talk about this. So today I'm hanging out with my friends. We got my buddy Ian. Well, hello, everyone.

That's Ian. And then, of course, that's our petulant is hanging out. Yes. Hello. And we're going to talk about this because if you Google search the wildfires what are they saying climate change yeah and i'm sure some of it is related you know i'm i personally believe we've got issues with you know just i think climate change is a serious issue however you cannot ignore the fact that we have we have a lot i've i pulled up a lot of stories man nice a lot of arson no joke awesome i guess not fun but uh it's so so this story about the antifa guy

might not be arson but there's many many other stories that are and they and they bring it up so i'm telling you man there are people literally out there right now starting fires i don't think they're all intentional it's probably people flicking cigarettes there's literally stories of like people spraying accelerant and oh my gosh lighting things up man yeah dude so we got some other news too considering the kind of i don't know man this story's it's kind of crazy right people getting riled up about this we're also hearing now the oath keepers have been suspended from twitter that is correct yeah for violating their rules on extremism and stuff like that. And then we got some other stories to

some, well, they banned Tear Gas in Portland. Yes. Again. Ted Wheeler. Again, I guess. And then some kid, I guess he accidentally went to school. Was it an accident? No, he was being defiant. Ah, a kid was. A kid was protesting by going to school. Good for him. And he got arrested.

And he got arrested for showing up to class. Yeah, dude. Yeah, what a jerk. So if you have not already, make sure you smash the like button. Crush it. Crush it. And hop into Super Chats. Your Super Chats help support the channel.

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First from Kiro7 live local in depth. They say police arrest pulley up man for starting large wildfire. So there's a lot we got to break down first. They don't say who the person is and they don't say it was intentionally lit. All right. They say pulley up police and state troopers arrested a 36 year old pulley up man Wednesday who the person is and they don't say it was intentionally lit all right they say pull it police and state troopers arrested a 36 year old pulley up man wednesday for allegedly starting a large brush fire which temporarily shut down state route 167 and several ramps near meridian avenue

a man with the exact same name as the one police arrested recorded a facebook live of that fire saying he reported it to first responders and of the same age. So I wonder if it's the same person. Police told Cairo 7 that they were made aware of the Facebook live, which showed his interaction with officers after the arrest. After the arrest. Whoa. He says, I'm out here on 167 right now. The man said in the stream, looks like a fire literally just started and I just rolled up on it and it looks like it's going crazy. I'm here with the police and they're talking to me about it because I just called it in. Now that's the gist of that story, all right? We got

to read more because they mentioned there was a person was seen intentionally lighting a fire somewhere else. So first of all, a lot of people are saying it's intentional. We don't know that, but we do have this. I think we do have the tweet here. Check this out. Trooper Ryan Burke tweeted, joint team effort. WSP, Fife PD, and Pulley Up PD just arrested a 36-year-old Pulley Up resident. I think I hope. Okay, hold on. Pulley Up.

People are correcting us here. It's Poo-yell-up. Poo-yell-up. Why would you say Pulley Up? There's not even an L in there. Yeah, the L comes later. I should read these words. Yeah, it's crazy.

It's crazy. Poo-y you up, resident. He was caught in the median setting a fire. He is currently on his way to jail. Great job, everybody. Play stupid games. All right, now hold on. They said he was setting a fire.

That sounds like arson. Yeah, it sure does. Is that not the definition of arson? I guess. Am I crazy? Well, the definition is the criminal act of deliberately setting fire to property oh there you go it's not property because it's literally property i'm kidding you can't like own property man you know we abolish property therefore you can't have arson

dude fire is like mass destruction yeah like this is if someone set off a nuclear bomb they'd go to jail for like much worse these wildfire like if yeah dude this guy was like that they're lucky it didn't spread because you look at this photo and that was a huge that's a big fire it's not the biggest but it was a large fire and i gotta say right now look they're saying he was setting a fire now that's that they got to be very careful about what they say so all we know right now officially confirmed some people are saying they're posting some photos of what what appears to be like court or like police records i could not verify them in these records it says something like reckless second degree fire or something yeah which may have been what's reckless flicking a

cigarette right something like that i can't confirm that's real though so all we have right now is this cop saying that he was setting a fire this sounds like so let's let's talk about who this guy is first we have this tweet from katie davis court she says pooh you'll up arrested jeffrey accord in relation to the arson along 167 highway in 2014 during an anti-police protest accord was charged with possession of a concealed weapon without permit carrying a knife and a legal possession of fireworks. I wonder what the fireworks were for. Well, she posted this video. She says earlier in the day, Jeffrey Accord called in his own arson, Puyallup PD. He even filled himself with the fires on Facebook Live. After questioning him,

the Puyallup Police Department arrested him on suspicion that he started the fires. So I actually, I went to his Facebook page. Sure enough, there's the guy. And yes, I legit, like we confirmed he posted this. So here's a story from the local news Seattle Times. When you Google search this guy's name, that's what you get. They say Jeffrey Allen Accord 31

was charged Wednesday in Seattle Municipal Court with possession of a concealed pistol without a permit, carrying a dangerous knife and a legal possession of fireworks. They say that he was at Monday's Ferguson protest in Seattle, had a cache of weapons. I guess it's a cash, cash. We're just talking about a cache of weapons, including a handgun, knife, shotgun, semi automatic rifle, ammunition and powerful fireworks. They go on to mention a court of Covington was among five people arrested during

the march and protest Monday in Seattle after a Missouri grand jury decided not to indict a police officer for fatally shooting an unarmed black man. Protesters marched from Westlake Park to Capitol Hill, and some later clashed with police and climbed onto Interstate 5, blocking traffic. During the violence, fireworks were fired into the sky and police say they were pelted with rocks, bottles, and canned food. Seattle Police Chief Kathleen O'Toole said it's unclear why Accord had the weapons. I don't know what his plans were, but it's obviously of great concern that somebody would come to an event in Seattle with those weapons readily available. Okay, so let's go back to the official confirmed source from Kiro 7 and they say, the guy said, I'm out here on 1C7 now.

I'm here with the police. That's a quote. They also say a man with the exact same name was arrested. I can't imagine that someone of the exact same name was wandering around. Very unlikely. Yeah, just like two guys, same age, same name. That'd be some multiple dimension stuff. So I think for legal reasons, they're saying it that way.

But when you watch the actual stream he put out, that's a quote. Like they've quoted what he said. This is the guy. I think it is fair to say beyond a reasonable doubt, this is the guy. Now, whether or not he's guilty of intentionally setting fires, it isn't until proven guilty. So is this the same guy that at the end of that article, they said another guy was standing on the side of the road lighting a fire? Somewhere else. Oh, it's a different guy.

We got a bunch of stories, man. Dude. Yeah, this is crazy. This is crazy. I think that's what we have in terms of just confirming this. So I want to make sure there's a few things that are very, very, very clear before we start getting into the next bit. Because there's more, dude. The important thing to talk about is, first of all, it sounds like arson from the police.

I'm going to put these important disclaimlaimers out we don't know for sure they did not literally confirm the guy's name and it may not be that this guy is like a dedicated antifa dude right this other important factor is just because he got arrested in 2014 doesn't mean he's like going out to all these protests we don't know maybe maybe he was. Could just be a reckless guy. Right. He could be just a firebug. He's a dude who likes to cause trouble. So he brought fireworks and guns to a protest for fun. I looked at this guy's information.

I did not see anything that would suggest he's a dedicated diehard leftist or anything like that. However, he's, I have to err on the side of he's been to these protests. He's brought weapons to these protests. He's brought weapons to these protests. There's other videos. There's more videos that people have pulled from his Facebook where he's at protests and he's yelling recently. Actually, there was a, he's at the George Floyd protest and he's yelling about, you know, six feet apart and he's laughing about it.

Oh, right. Yeah. That was very strange. Well, actually I got to stop there. They're alleging that's the case. I want to be very careful with here. They don't know it's him. So some people have posted videos saying, here he is.

We pulled this from his Facebook. And it's him laughing and filming himself. It looks like him. But I want to be very careful because I think, you know, this is already making the rounds, this story. And people are saying it's legit. It's confirmed. It's not.

It's not. It's not. So it seems like this guy does support Black Lives Matter. He's protested with them before. And I have to assume he's probably done it more than once because we've seen, you know, potential evidence is more than one. So there you go. There you go. All right. This is what I want to make sure is clear. The bigger issue at play, I believe, is that if you do a Google search of wildfire and climate change, you'll see all of these stories where they say New York Times, the straightforward link between climate change, you'll see all of these stories where they say,

New York Times, the straightforward link between climate change and California's fires. Yeah, perhaps. I'm not discrediting that. I'm just saying that there's a big narrative that everything we're seeing is, you know, wildfires and weather extremes. It's not coincidence. It's climate change. Wildfires are worsening. The way we manage them isn't keeping pace. California governor on wildfires, no patience for climate change deniers well i certain thing that's a thing that's an issue if they don't address the arsonists then i think you're going to get a group of people who say it's not climate change it's arson and then you're going to get a group of people who don't even know the arson is happening it's both right but it's totally possible yeah i think i think it's fair to say what there's a happy medium well i shouldn't say is it horrifying say there's a happy medium. Well, I shouldn't say it's a horrifying medium.

It's terrible. Not a happy medium. You've got people who want to start fires, and there's conditions being met because of climate change that make the fire substantially worse. But you've got to address the arsonists. Check this out. They also go on to say, after this, in Graham, a person was seen intentionally setting a fire to a field in front of a business in the 10400 block of 229 Southeast early Wednesday morning. This was 100% intentional. There is zero doubt, said Jonas Petit, the owner of VacTech Septic and Water.

Surveillance shows the suspect drive up, dumping gasoline and a match, setting fire to dry grass next to the business. Pierce County detectives have the video, which doesn't show the suspect or the vehicle, but petite says it does show a random act of potential devastation. You watch the flame and then where he flips it and it just goes, boom, big ball of flame. He said firefighters and a lack of wind kept the flames from destroying their business only a few yards beyond the burn. If the wind would have been blowing like it was the other night, you wouldn't have stopped this. It would have added up onto the other fire in Graham, Petit said. The area is only a couple miles from the Graham fire, which destroyed eight homes.

And they go on to show the trooper, of course. So there's more, man. We got another one. Give it, man. We got another one. Give it to me. We got another one from Kiro7 News. Seriously? Look at this. This is from today.

Oh, my gosh. Second man arrested for intentionally starting brush fire in Pierce County. Yeah. This is Parkland, Washington. Troopers of the Washington State Patrol on Thursday said they have arrested a second person for intentionally starting a brush fire in Pierce County. Troopers said someone saw a man setting fire to grass with a match near State Route 512 and State Route 7 and called police. Troopers arrived at the scene, chased the man, and took him into custody. Wow.

Thursday's arrest comes one day after a 36-year-old Puyallup man was arrested for allegedly starting a large brush fire, which temporarily shut down 167. That's the story we're just talking about. Fire danger remains very high across Washington due to low humidity and high temperatures. More than 480,000 acres in Washington have burned since Monday. So here's another tweet from Trooper Ryan Burke. We got another one. Great job, Trooper Moorfield.

A pedestrian decided to match light the grass at SR 512 and SR 7. Citizen observed it and alerted 911. After a short foot chase, one is in custody and on the way to jail. What if I told you we had more? Tell me. But wait, there's more. Arsonists, for some reason, are trying to just destroy everything. It's copycat criminality.

No, I don't know, man. It's like the Joker. Or the collective consciousness is sparking, you know. Literally sparking things. Yeah, bad analogy. I don't know, man. I think it's, you take a large population of people and there's a standard deviation, you know, of people who happen to be arsonists.

So like if for every thousand people you have one arsonist what happens when you have a million people you have a thousand arsonists and then they're all going around yeah i mean that's the that's the assumption scaling up right so maybe it's like every one in ten thousand one in one and even if it's one in a million in these areas you'll have four or five and when they see stories online about it then they're like oh i could go do that i mean that's a crazy if you see read an article how easy it is to go out there and destroy property and you're not you don't have to stick around you know you it's just i mean look at this this is terrorism to me and i don't like to use

that word a lot it's it's i don't i don't know i don't know terrorism is like there's a there's a goal it has to be political terrifying though. This could destroy thousands of people. It has, yeah. Their homes, their lives, their animals. Yeah. The roads, the... Everything. The whole forest.

The ecosystem. So I don't know if it's terrorism, but I just got... I got another story, man. Go for it. What is this? Look at this. So we have two different locations

in Oregon and Seattle. Now we have Eugene. Yeah so no those two were in washington weren't they yeah yeah now we have one in eugene a man arrested on arson allegation in wildfire west of eugene deputies say look at this photo man oh my sweet creek milepost two fire seen in an undated photo so is this is this no that's not it then that's not it? Uh-oh. Why not? Because that's an undated photo. They're talking about maybe a large fire in the area. I don't know. Why? Undated photo just means they don't know when it was taken.

Yeah, I don't know. So it could be the fire. Maybe. You think that would be dated, though. Sorry, I'll let you read. A 44-year-old man was arrested Tuesday on suspicion of arson in a wildfire that has burned nearly 400 acres and prompted evacuations west of eugene elias newton pendergrass is accused of first degree arson in the sweet creek milepost

two fire so that's it okay which covers 382 acres near the community of mapleton pendlegrass a mapleton resident is being held in the lane county jail the county sheriff's office didn't provide details about the arson allegation in a news release Tuesday afternoon. Officials have previously said several fires started Sunday afternoon and that they were managing the blazes as a single fire. Some area residents are still under evacuation, while others have been told to be ready or set to leave. The blaze is estimated to be 15% contained, fire officials said early Wednesday. So what do you think happens when these stories start, you know, flying off the shelves, the virality? People, I mean, we're in a hot political environment. It is, it's 2020. The election is less than, you know, two months away.

And everybody is pointing the fingers, which is why we end up with a headline like, you know, BLM leftists arrested for starting a fire. For one, to what degree are they an active, you know, they are, they've supported and protested for them. So I think that's fair. But they're not necessarily an organizer. Was it actually arson? I don't know. I don't know. But we're already seeing the ramifications of this. And here we go. Check this out. Justin Yao, he's at P Documentarians, and he's a freelance journalist, tweeted, we were approached by an armed group telling us to leave. They are wary of outsiders based on rumors of arsonists setting fires in the area. So here's the image. You can see fire season in

effect, all burning prohibited, fire danger listed as extreme. And there's, we can see one guy right here who's armed. This guy doesn't appear to be, maybe he's got a handgun or something. This guy right here might actually be armed. Also, we can't see. We don't know for sure. But the way, you know what I think when I see this? They don't want outsiders coming in. There's major fires and a massive natural disaster occurring.

Should I be upset by them saying, you know? I don't think so. So what occurred to me when I saw this picture was that these guys don't want people to come in and start fires. I know, it's that simple, right? Yeah yeah and i'm not convinced firing guns is a good way to keep fires from starting but i mean they probably think it's better than nothing they're like just like stay out stay out of the national forest or whatever so if this was any other disaster would we would we be surprised you know if there was like a flood or a hurricane or tornado and then you know there were armed guards like we don't looters we don't want

no i mean no especially with a flood if there are armed guards i think they'll be very normal so so the responses to this are are really interesting some of them and it's kind of it's kind of random they're saying uh patriot prayer proud boys extremists like far-right chandler poppins are spreading the rumors on social media and so this is turning into a partisan political issue be partisan oh my gosh why um because i just started a stream with a title saying blm leftist oh yeah that's right okay because it's it's the lens that which everything is is being based right now and for me i guess i'll fully i'll fully admit to there being an issue of like doing this live stream from this headline but it's because i i see these posts getting a ton

of traction a lot of articles are popping up people will contact me be like yo look what they're doing like antifa's going around setting fires on purpose and i'm like okay maybe we can it we can i first i started researching it it took It took me a little bit to actually confirm a lot of what they were saying. And I've excluded some of what I couldn't confirm. But it looks legit like this guy was a protester. But people are taking it to – I don't know, taking it pretty far. He was a radical protester. Whether or not – whatever political party, that kind of radical protest is dangerous where you take guns weapons and fireworks to a to a rally yeah well i'm trying to set stuff

on fire like they did at ted wheeler's house like two weeks ago trying to set the guy's house on fire that was that was a complex a whole building with like 100 people in it 100 114 residences or something they're gonna burn them to death that was their Yeah, it's a good plan. I don't know. I know I shouldn't laugh, but it's like, yeah, dude. Well, it's tough, right? Because I don't want to come out and be like, people, listen, the antifas are going around. They're burning down forests. Like, you've got people who broke through the windows, and then someone lit a bunch of newspapers on fire and threw it on the first floor of Ted Wheeler's building. Whoa.

So naturally, you can say they were trying to burn the place down, right? Looks like it. Yeah. Or what if they were just morons? It was newspapers. So like, what are you going to get done? It's like a stack, though. Well, that's...

I mean, you could... They were definitely morons. You could burn a building down. No judgment. But that's not a good thing to do right now. Yeah, seriously. You can get your point across in many other ways. Write a song.

But maybe they don't want the point across. Maybe they want to kill people. Why, though? Well, so this is what I'm trying to say. Like, I'm really reluctant to be like, they were trying to kill people. But they were trying to burn them. Weren't they trying to kill people? In their house.

Yeah. Yeah, it seems like they were trying to kill everyone. Like, they're that angry that they're going to. At least negligent. But I wonder... Because here's why I'm reluctant to actually go that far. Because I've talked about what happens when the mob shows up to your house. And what happens is one person...

Here's what happens at Ted Wheeler's place. Someone runs up and throws a brick through the window and it shatters. And then he runs away. And then other people see him. When he's running up to it before he throws it, they're like, oh, I'm going to walk up too. He throws the brick, it shatters and runs. And then someone looks through the window. Someone, people behind him see him going towards the window. Like he's going to go in and they go in and one by one, it's like an avalanche. Each individual is just doing a little, a little incremental thing and leaving,

but the whole group is moving. And then all of a sudden they're inside. Then someone looks over and they see like, you know, something, they they take it and then people see him grabbing something so they all start grabbing stuff and then some dude chucks the flaming debris that's someone else lights debris on fire someone sees it and chucks it into the building and runs off so they're all doing a little bit to like stack up you know i think these people are desensitized because of i don't know why because they've been exposed as a five-year-old to pornography or violent video games and their minds are all like, I can light stuff on fire

and then reload the game later if it doesn't work out. That's interesting. I don't know. I think there's no punishment. I think people like these, you know what's crazy is like, aren't they scared of going to prison?

You know? I don't know. It's almost like they're not. Well, I mean, the people that were faking, I mean, I don't know that they were faking uh having what was it seizures yeah they might have been afraid of going that's why they were fake i don't know man it's little kids having temper tantrums that's what it seems like so so the context here is yeah like during the riots there were people who were uh they'll be when they get arrested they have these hollywood style seizures and anybody who's actually ever actually witnessed a seizure is like that is not a seizure you are acting something you saw in a movie seizures not

dramatic yeah yeah so like there's like a video of and but the emts and the medics will hold their heads properly just because they're like you know and it's really funny man i i it's so it's so annoying you got this video of an actual emt with armor and like you know his city's sanctioned gear he's holding the man's head doing everything properly because i think this is the basis of what i was trained when i did the first aid training and hostile environment stuff and the activists are yelling you need to turn him on his side you need to turn his head what are you doing and i'm like why are you random protester yelling at the emergency medical professional what they should be doing with someone who might be having a seizure wow because they saw it on tv i think

probably yeah and that's why the fake people are doing the fake seizures because they're acting like what they saw on tv so so going on it's it's man it's like why are they allowing these people to do it is the is the bigger yeah it's like they why are they allowing these people to do it is the bigger question. Yeah, it's like they don't want to shut it down without allowing them. Because it's the United States. You want to give people the right to protest. And if that means that you trip and fall and break someone's arm while you're protesting, so be it. But then now they're, like, aggravating.

Like, they're attempting to destroy people's arms and buildings. The police? No, the protesters. Oh, yeah, for sure. And at that point, I don't know why they're letting it happen. I don't know, man. I'd love to get conspiratorial. Do it.

Just like the district attorneys in Washington are in on Antifa and won't charge them? That'd be crazy. It's not even conspiratorial. They've said that much. We're not going to charge them. So what we're seeing in Portland with these riots, and they've actually chilled out quite a bit. So I don't know if you guys have been. I think we've all been kind of following what's going on.

And for those that are listening, the people in Portland last night, dance party. That's awesome. That's it. And I'm like, bravo, everybody. It's amazing. Thank you for the dance party. I report on it. I say it was really great.

You did that. And I wondered, where are the extremists? It's amazing. Thank you for the dance party. I report on it. I say it was really great. You did that. And I wondered, where are the extremists? They've been out there for 100 and something nights. And all of a sudden, the past couple of nights, everything kind of just dance partied out. It's federal, right? The feds came in. The feds came in. They deputized the cops.

And then the cops snatched up the terrorists. It's time. Plucked them out. And now all that's left is a bunch of dance party. All right. So what ends up happening with like these district attorneys and these other jurisdictions is that you have a big group of regular people and then you have some extremists. The extremists start the fight, but they tell everybody to wear all black.

So when the cops were going in and trying to arrest, like they'll see someone throw an explosive, right? The cops will run in and grab the person and say'll see someone throw an explosive right the cops will run in and grab the person and say we don't know if this is the person who threw that because they all are wearing the same thing yeah so they charge them with interfering with a peace officer or something like that or disorderly the da then says so you don't actually know what they did i can't charge them with this free to go i would have a similar thing where if i would drop a piece of food on the ground, I'd look around.

And if I couldn't find it, I'd just pick up one little piece of trash and throw it away. One for one. That's right. So what you're saying is you're violating the rights of that garbage. I did. It was not, in fact, your garbage. No, but the point is the tactic of Antifa is to confuse the police and become impossible to identify. How do you get around that?

They tried charging them with conspiracy in D.C. in 2017. The ones that would get in the way? So the cops just arrested impossible to identify. How do you get around that? They tried charging them with conspiracy in D.C. in 2017. The ones that would get in the way? So the cops just arrested all of them and then charged them all with conspiracy. Okay, that's heavy-handed. Yeah, I don't know what you're doing. I mean, if you're just out there. Well, if you're out there wearing black, you're allowed to do that. You know what you're doing.

Yeah, it seems like you're signing up for something. Look, let's say you go for a jog and you're wearing black sweatpants. Or let's say you're wearing an Adidas tracksuit and signing up for something. Look, let's say you go for a jog and you're wearing black sweatpants. Or let's say you're wearing an Adidas track suit and a hoodie or something. You're going to look very, very similar to the rest of them. And so they're going to arrest everybody and they're going to say, no, look how he's dressed. He's in on it. You can't arrest somebody for that. You're not supposed to wear black.

You can't charge. Because headlights can't see you. In D.C. it was during the day. Yeah, you can't arrest everybody. That's not the way to do it. They arrested like 200 and something people. And then the charges all basically... Look, some people pled guilty, pleaded guilty.

They were like, it's easier. They thought they were going to get in trouble and it was going to be bad. So the cops, the state ended up getting a handful of these people. But then everyone else stood their ground and said no. And then the charges all just got dismissed. Because the judge did the same thing. It's like, you have no evidence this person did anything wrong anything wrong you can't just because they're wearing a hoodie and the argument from the prosecutors i don't know if this is our exact argument but the general idea is

if they tell everyone we're all black so that we get away with crimes you're aiding and abetting all these crimes and you pre-planned it there was a guy i saw a video where he was like we don't want to record anyone doing crimes. And then the guy went up and like, did a crime or something. That sounds right. They were like, we don't want to record this.

Have you seen that video of the kids getting arrested at one of the protests and they're like crying and freaking out? No, I don't think so. But the girl was wearing a shirt that said, be gay, do crimes. Oh my gosh. And it's like a meme thing,

like do crimes. It's like you say something and say do crimes. It's like, dude, they don't understand what it means to do crimes. Like, they've not grown up in any world any kind of discipline and so what happens is it's it's crazy you grow up you grow up in the city and and you actually see like the inner city stuff and you see some dude running down the

street full speed and the cops tackle him and then throw him in a police car you're like wow i don't want that to happen but if you grow grew up never seeing it, what do you get? You get these videos of these women in New York going, or effing what, to the cops. Oh, that was great. And the cop grabs her and just pulls her. Just justice. Vindication, seriously. You know, if it's a bad law, then I think it's your duty as a sovereign human to violate it and cause a crime, which is crazy.

But if it's a vicious, like, immoral law that some corrupt government put into place, you kind of have to commit a crime. Maybe that's too absolute, though. Well, like Nazi Germany, for instance, they had horrible laws that people had to violate and became criminals just to do the right thing. And there's a really good point about there's like a protest sign and the left loves to prop these things up where it was like uh the the nazis were acting legally and the people who are helping the jews escape were the criminals

so absolutely like that yeah just like law does not mean morality by any by any means but i say absolute because maybe sometimes there's unjust laws and the appropriate response is like tactful uh yeah legislation in your legislation to change the law. Yeah, like something dumb. You know, like, I don't know. There could be some dumb law about computer programs and like labor rights or something. It's like jaywalking. Like if you think, I guess the challenge there,

why I say it's you got to be careful about how absolute you go is because some people are going to be like, I believe that taxes are, you know. Oh yeah, like making their own moral justification. And then they go and do something crazy. Right. Law and order is so important. I believe I have a right to, you know oh yeah like making their own moral justification and then they go and do something crazy right you know they're so important i believe i have a right to you know and they insert nonsensical psychotic i guess it's why we put so much faith in our lawmakers and why having these almost like clowns dance around and and in office for 40 years disassociated from the

populace is so detrimental to people's psyche right now and why they're out there they don't know what if they should or shouldn't yeah some of the a lot of these leftists think that the logic you just said they have they have they have to stop these unjust laws so they're going out and they're throwing explosives and starting fires and attacking people because they think they're in nazi germany what laws are the unjust that you know? I mean, they literally think police shouldn't exist. Oh, that's, no, okay. That's extreme. Right.

But imagine you have a large group of people saying it's unjust to have police incarcerating people. So they go and like abolish the police. And they need to study mercenary warfare before we invented standing armies. The mercenaries would be hired to cause chaos. They would. And then when the war would end, they'd go cause more chaos. So they'd get hired by the other side to go stop it. And it was.

That sounds like the premise to. Actually, it sounds like the premise to Iron Man 1 and 3. Oh, wow. Yeah. Have you guys seen. You've seen them both, right? I saw the first one. Yeah.

The first one is the bad guy. What was the name? Iron Monger Obadiah. He's dealing weapons to the the terrorists and oh yeah so you know so that he can get what he wants or whatever but then he's also making weapons you know for the united states so he's double dealing and and tony's like are we double dealing but then you literally have in iron man 3 the bad guy aldrich killian is like i'll have the president and the world's most powerful terrorist i'll own the war on terror i'm like that's like the same

plot from the first one with a different villain. Oh, how cheap. Yeah. His name's Killian, too. It's like so, so cliche. Anyway, the point is, you've got people who think they're, I would, this is a serious challenge. You know what the ethical conundrum is?

That if the Nazis won, then everything they did would would be called just isn't that nuts it's scary it's very scary and like what world are we living in did our ancient ancestors win and they were the bad guys bro do you know about the japanese uh experiments in world war ii a little bit and we we just what was it operation paperclip you know but that's when we brought a bunch of scientists from like naz into the U.S. to continue their work. So we were more than willing to be like, well, take all of what you got. We need smart people. Science first.

Dude, what's that unit in Japan? 741? Was that what it was? 471? Was that what it was? Yeah. They would take someone's arm and put it through a hole in a crate or something into a refrigerator or something to watch it freeze in real time to see what would happen. Oh, yeah, dude. Geez. They did really

creepy stuff. And this is just the stuff we know about. Right. Since radio and television were invented, like before that, before... Oh, it was way worse. Oh my gosh. The wheel, the way they would torture and execute people in like 400 years ago. You should look up the wheel. It's such a digit

okay so if people to iraq and then break their arms exactly so if you're interested in that okay i was totally wrong about the number of the unit it's unit 731 731 yeah and then yeah so much uh so much torture it's amazing that we're we have peace at all like people don't understand peace is the anomaly i was reading that a lot of what we know about hypothermia we only know because of that was it 731 31 yeah that we took their research and so it benefited us but the human exploitation and experimentation and all that stuff happened so anyway look i think a reasonable human being here's a story of like scientists putting humans into like torture devices to watch their bones break and we're like yo that's evil stuff or they're like you know taking people for

no reason other than their ethnic background and loading them on trains and we're like dude and then you have police who are like please stop burning down the neighborhood and they're like we live in a fascist dictatorship no it'd be a hard job to be a cop i've never been a cop i don't know if you guys have i mean i don't think either you guys have ever been cops like to go out there and be afraid someone's gonna fire on you to shoot you basically if you if you don't bro shoot them first a cop got shot in the head in vegas when he's paralyzed this is crazy yeah what a crazy job and i don't want robots to do it because the robot is gonna be on automatic and it's gonna be like you are guilty or whatever i don't know though i don't want robots to do it because the robot is going to be on automatic and it's going to be like you are guilty or whatever i don't know though i don't know though because the robot's not going to have to use lethal lethal force because the robot's not not alive indestructible i mean

not indestructible but the robot doesn't need to fear for its own destruction that's a good point it can be repaired and it's not a person so the robot can have only less lethals and be effective that's a good point however a robot's not going to chase down a dude hopping fences. Well, the right robot might have you seen those Boston Dynamics. Oh, dude, I do not want to live in that world. But what if it's only for just? No, no, no, no, no, no. It's going to turn around and be like, it's going to face a recognition you and it's going

to go, Ian Crosland, you have jaywalked. I didn't mean to drop the pain. You have jaywalked for the last time. Yeah. One time I was in LA. I was driving down a hill at night and it was raining. And I was moving fast down the hill and the light turned yellow. And I hit my brakes, but I was going to skid.

And I didn't know if someone was coming behind me. So it turned red and I just went through it because it was the safe thing to do. If I slammed on my brakes and someone came behind me, it would have been an accident. Robot cop would arrest you. The camera took a picture of my car and sent me a ticket but a cop wouldn't have a cop would have been like you did the right thing and i've i've had a i had a friend who got a ticket in the mail for blowing a red light and they show you the picture of you doing it and it was like basically a comic of someone doing a a legal right turn on red it was

like you see the car pull up stop and. And then the next panel is just waiting and then it's turning to the right. Clerical error alone is... I mean, humans have clerical error and that's kind of what there's these revolutions about right now. Think about what happens if... So if the robot has no lethal capabilities and it can catch you,

that might not be a bad thing. Stun you. What's the word? Put you to sleep. But it might not need to do those things. It can just grab you and you're like, ah, I can't get off this robot and I can't carry it. It's too heavy. What do I do? Break it on bone, trying to get away.

But you might be right. I mean, if you do that. Just subduction? Is that the word? Subduing people? Subduction? Sounds right. Maybe. I mean, kind of right, kind of wrong. So I guess the issue is maybe it does make sense and uh maybe it can be done better because like i mentioned it you know if the robot breaks well okay so it's vandalism

so cops could be in a vr helmet like how drone pilots are compare commanding their ai robot have you seen uh you you've seen those things with like a cradle where you strap on a harness and then you stand to the vr gaming rig oh no let's get one and you strap on a harness and then you stand to the VR gaming rig. Oh, no. Let's get one. And you wear these special shoes and you're in a bowl. And when you run, your feet slide. Yes.

I love those things. So the cops have... So basically like the movie Surrogates. I haven't seen it. So like in Surrogates, everybody lays in this bed and then connects their brain to a fake robot version of themselves. Yeah. Or maybe even like Ghost in the Shell.

No, that's still human acting. Right. The problem with a robot is that you're going to be on your way to your job, and you don't have money for bail, and you really need this interview, and the robot's going to look at you and go, you blew the red light, Ian, and you go, I'm walking.

Submit. I'm not driving. I didn't blow it. Submit. Submit. And you're like, ah, it could be way worse. Who programs the robots? I know.

We would have to be free software. We would have to know the code. And on demand, you would have to be able to look at the robot's code. Like, show me your badge number. Show me your code to make sure it's not doing something faulty. The robot could maybe just hold you until a human officer showed up. And then you still have the problem with the human officer being like look i don't know what happened i have to review the

file you're under arrest and then what if the robot malfunctions and it accuses you of like some really crazy crime oh that's dystopia but i guess they could review footage and then have to prove it yeah otherwise you get cut loose immediately you know what this could be like there there is a net benefit to the surveillance state that people often don't talk about sure that so i was reading i was reading this thing on reddit about uh how i think it was on reddit how they catch serial killers what was i watching oh so i was i think i was watching sherlock the the bbc one that show's pretty good actually i'm gonna watch more of that it's a benedict yeah benedict cumberbatch yeah he's great and they said like how do you how would you go about catching a serial killer today?

And they said, what people don't realize is that it's actually really easy to... Oh, no, no, no. I think I was watching... I was watching Red Dragon. Oh, yeah. We just watched that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were saying, why am I watching these serial killer things?

I don't know, Matt. Go deep. Good question, Tim. I just watched Dexter. No, I'm just kidding. No, they said, basically, when there's a car spotted, they just punch it in, and they can pull up surveillance footage from a lot of things that are like networked and facial recognition. And then they immediately are like, oh, look, we found out who was there.

And here's our suspect. Fingerprints in general, man. That was a huge leap forward in law enforcement that I think for the most part has done a lot of good for society. Criminals are caught, you know, that otherwise would have just been in and out. Think about what the surveillance state can actually end up doing. Good. caught you know that otherwise would have just been in and out think about what the surveillance state can actually end up doing good i ultimately think the surveillance state is going to be really bad because i i think there's certain laws that have to be broken and i'll talk about in a second but uh think think about it this way we have we hear all these stories about innocent people

getting charged and innocent people going on death row imagine if a dude you know the cops show up to his house and say the description you know of this murder it's they said you were the suspect and the guy goes dude I wasn't anywhere near there. I was at work that day. And they go, oh, yeah? Well, we're going to check the surveillance network. It looks like you were right. Sorry.

Waste your time, sir. And they leave. So it can prove innocence. People are worried about it because you'll be found guilty or caught. And I'm kind of like, there is something to be concerned about because we never get rid of laws. Right. That's the big problem. Right big problem right so easy to make them relative to getting rid of them so then how do you actually get rid of these laws I don't know you have to repeal them people have to break them sometimes or go yeah go to a state next to where it's illegal and do it until

the people are pressured to change it where they are but if it's a federal thing then how do you do that marijuana is a really good example yeah i was talking to this hacker dude his name is moxie marlin spike and he explained to me the problem with mass surveillance and a lack of secrecy and privacy is that people need to break the law to know when laws should be broken or should be repealed and he said marijuana is the best example if people weren't breaking the law by smoking it, then how would they know they wanted it to be legal? That's a good point. So the problem then is not about whether you think marijuana should be legal or not legal. It's that illegal or not is that we keep making new laws.

And when do we get rid of them? My favorite is there's like their books about wacky laws. I don't know if you've ever seen them. A little bit. It's like you can't take a shower on Tuesdays if it's sunny out or something sunny out or something can't tie your goat up to stop signs stuff like that that makes sense though that makes sense there there was one where it was like you can't make a cherry pie and put it on your windowsill on sunday afternoon oh because it's tempting like it's like all the churchgoers it's you don't want to like what happened to make these yeah like what what happened to make these

laws required these laws are interesting to me because you know there's really interesting stories behind all of them like why can't you put a cherry pie on your windowsill why can't you tie a goat to a stop sign and it's probably it's it's probably some law that was created just to appease like an angry old lady probably like like her her neighbor kept putting pies that karen yeah and her neighbor was attracting the local kids yep so she went to like the local mayor and was like these kids keep coming because she's putting her pies up. She knew somebody. Yeah, she had connections.

And the mayor's like, okay, how about you can make your pies, put them on the windowsill, but not on Sunday because we're going to go to church and you don't want the kids coming around. Leave her alone. Now there are these crazy laws. There's like, there's a lot of the laws that are crazy about like water conservation. Oh. Like you can't take a bath on this day at this time or something like that.

Whoa. And it's like we never got rid of those laws. Oh, OK. But I think this is what judges are for. Like if a cop kicked in your door, it's like, aha, taking a bath on Sunday at 4 p.m. Oh, snap. Jimmy, lock him up. The judge is going to be like, get out.

What is this? There's some weird federal laws on the books right now, like ancient, you know,age what's the is it the espionage act is that one that's like this old from like the 1780 logan act the logan act how old is that 1700 7 late 1700s and it's it's one of the i've i don't know much about it but it's that you can't represent you can't so this is what michael got michael flynn yeah and it's a bunk law because it's never been used you can't go to a foreign country and claim to represent the U.S. The law was made because we didn't have phones. If you went to Egypt and you went to a state building and you said you were a diplomat,

they'd pick up their phone and be like, No, you're not. Is Ian Cross a diplomat? What are you doing here? It's that simple. There's no real concern about it. You get charged on the Logan Act. I'm not sure if the Logan Act applies to private citizens.

I think it does, right? I'm not sure. I don't think it does. But like a congressman couldn't go to Egypt and be like, I'm here on behalf of the United States. I think that's it. That's right. Okay.

Because they're not – actually, yeah, I think they're not there on behalf of the United States. That'd be their – like, you know what? That's a good question, actually. I know that yeah maybe maybe it has to do with your you're there as a part of a delegation that's confirmed and assigned versus you going there's a private citizen and negotiating there are some concerns about it like if Trump is negotiating some deal with say Iran and then a senator flies to Iran

and then undercuts that deal there's issues there. But the Logan Act is one of these laws that doesn't really make sense anymore. Because they can make a phone call. If they know you're a senator, you don't have to say you're a senator to go talk to some Israeli businessman. So are you, just by nature of your title, are you...

If you DM someone on Twitter, is it... Exactly. With the internet, cross-border communication is just so natural now. So anyway, though, back to the point before we go off into, you know,

Wally World or whatever. The stratosphere. Deep space. What do we do to get rid of all these laws? Should we have like a law, a law-dit? Yeah.

And we go through, just go through all the laws and be like, this one's gonna go, this one's gonna go. I'm gonna spin the UFO for that because we should do a law-dit and smash that like

button. I love it. Absolutely. If you like that word as much as I do. Laud it. I'm adding it to the picture as we speak. No, but for real, yeah, we've got, it seems like we only ever stack laws up. Very much.

Could you imagine a robot that enforced every single law? Oh my goodness. It would be in pure insanity. That'd be a really chaos. It would probably have conflicting laws that it couldn't compete. Yeah, dude. Yeah, definitely. You'd fry its robot.

Especially when you do federal law and state law. Definitely. I am federal. I am state. They probably. Oh, man. Well, I mean, that kind of exists today. But could you imagine like DEA robots encountering state police robots?

Robot warfare. And then the robots are just fighting in the street because like the laws laws are different and the criminals are running around think about it this way with the kind of chaos we've seen where the states are going up against the federal government right now like say oregon for instance where the attorney general sued the federal government and they're saying like you can't do these things here we had we had a da in philly say that he would arrest feds if they came to enforce the law in Philly or something like that. So what would happen if the state robots are programmed and they're like, don't allow

anyone else to enforce the law. Federals are not allowed to be here. Then ATF or robots or like Federal Protective Service robots show up. And then the robots like, I'm imagining those Boston Dynamics things and they like run and they see you and they're like, citizen, you are in violation of

you know city ordinance unlawful assembly declared freaking me out and then the other about runs up and goes you know like a law enforcement unit 7369 federal 234 you are in violation and they both start spouting code at each other yeah and they both just grab each other and they're like z and then they start just unscrewing each other and then one climbs on top of the, zing. And then they start zing. Just unscrewing each other. And then one climbs on top of the other. And now there's two robots. And they're running around. Oh, it's crazy.

I think you're right. Because if there's bad laws and a robot has to enforce that, that is bad news. Humans are like, I know it's bad. I'm not going to enforce it. Like, you see cops. They were like. Well, in theory. In theory.

I don't know about that. OK. Maybe you're right, though. Maybe it's actually like an anomaly when a human disenforces uh a bad law i mean you've got these cops in virginia saying the sheriffs we're not going to enforce enforce these these gun control measures you know they're violations of the second amendment and they started setting up these sanctuary jurisdictions that's the police being like i will not cross that line but if we did robots then you could just be like here's the law up here's the law update and then you're like it's like a gigabyte

file of all these crazy yeah yeah so this could be like how they do plane manuals because instead of carrying really big thick books around now pilots just have these tablets that they carry with them and before every single flight the manual for the whole plane is updated and they can look through it if they need to. So imagine, like, you're standing next to a robot, and you're like, you're like, robot, inquiry. And the robot goes, yes, citizen. Would it be illegal if I crossed the street right here?

No, you're okay. Thank you. And then all of a sudden, it blinks a light, downloading new laws. Oh, no. And then you cross the street, and it goes, stop, citizen. You have violated the law. And then you're like, wait, what? That'd be cool, because the robots would never get tired of answering your questions and they wouldn't get

frustrated and if you could be like at any time tell me the law they would have it for you i actually think it might be cool to have robot cops but uh because i think it would reduce the amount of it would actually reduce the amount of physical harm that comes to people like humans make mistakes too robots don't make mistakes like they get scared robots don't get scared and so the, but also that the robot's going to be like, there's no fear of lethal harm, like lethal force. So you could be a criminal running with a gun and the robot's going to be faster than you. It's going to be able to run longer.

You're not, it's going to subdue you. It's going to. It's going to have connections to like helicopter. It's going to ignore, it can see you from the helicopter. So like it doesn't, you know, i don't know it can track you easier with like stuff i agree with you man i'm all about using technology to help solve problems the challenge i guess is like we already said though the law is get out of hand right you know what i mean right yeah and sometimes you know what to be fair though maybe we'll get to that point

where we'll create some good ai that can have better judgment one of the really interesting things about ai and judgment right now is self-driving cars. So one of the biggest problems with self-driving cars is that somebody has to program whether the car crashes into a grandmother or a baby. Oh, that's wild. Yeah. Yep.

So I don't know if you guys have heard about this. Yeah. So basically, when a human is driving a car, and then all of a sudden, an old lady stumbles out in front of the car, you're like, oh no. And then you have a split second. And it's like, if I keep going forward, old lady goes flying. If I veer left, I will crash into a tree and die. Someone, so you choose. And if you hit the old lady, like you might get some kind of charge. It might be considered an accident. You might not get in trouble. You'll live. If you try and avoid the old lady and you die, you made the choice and everyone makes a choice you know based on their own morality or whatever someone's

got a program into these self-driving cars which one to kill and then does it the driver or the does it go to like the car company have to cover the the legal ramifications i don't think so i think the insurance company the insurance company so if your car automated car kills somebody it's not in your hands it would it would be would you get in a car that told you outright if this car encounters any potential uh like lethal in a fatal instance it will sacrifice you no yeah i wouldn't either no there's no way hi welcome to tesla automatic driving car we crash, we'll kill you. It's like, no, I'd rather. We'll kill you first. Yeah, I'd rather.

Gosh, what have you done? I bumped the table. No. You broke the UFO. You got the magic touch. No, you have to do it. Knock the UFO off. Again.

So you just got to kind of center it. Okay. Anyway, let's do this. We talked enough about robots. No, we haven't talked enough about robots. Let's talk about what's going on with the Oath Keepers, man. Okay. Check this out, everybody.

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Check this out. Twitter bans far-right extremist group, the Oath Keepers. The company says the group violated its policies on violent extremist group. The first question I have is, Ian, do you know who the Oath Keepers are? I'm just learning about them today and yesterday. I do. Do you think they're an extremist group. The first question I have is, Ian, do you know who the Oath Keepers are? I'm just learning about them today and yesterday. I do. Do you think they're an extremist group? They are not.

I don't think so either. They're like the three percenters. Yeah, I think they're just like, well, I think they've been pushing the rhetoric for sure. Yeah. Okay, well, they're like middle-aged guys who really want to do something, and this is what they do on Saturday afternoons is the vibe I kind of get off them. I'm not convinced. They show up to protests, and they walk around. I'm not convinced. They show up to protests and they walk around.

I'm not convinced they're going to do anything crazy. Isn't like the general concept of the group is that they're staunch constitutionalists? Yeah, I think that's why they're called Oath Keepers. This is going to be really interesting, you know, because we got problems, man. I'll tell you what. I'm not a fan of people calling for violence. I think we got to simmer everything down. But I've been having conversation after conversation about how the constitution is swiss cheese are are that it doesn't even matter

for the most part guideline at the very least i mean not even anymore there's there's there's like no penalty for any of these lawmakers proposing unconstitutional laws and getting them passed and then violating people's rights it's just a well it's on it's incumbent upon you to sue if your rights were violated what what's an example of something? Is there anything that stands off the top of your head? If you want to, look, to be fair, there are a lot of things in the Constitution that, like, rules have been imposed based on Supreme Court rulings. Specifically on, like, Second Amendment's the easiest one. But search and seizure.

It'd be violated every day. Okay? Like, metadata spying. Oh, that's really weird. like metadata spying oh that's really nsa the nsa spying stuff that snowden revealed like that's really obvious the cia got invented in like the 40s and that didn't exist when they wrote the constitution i'm gonna give a mention to uh caitlin bennett you know she is she's the gun rights activist from kent state is it she's a what up yeah okay so so so this video going around today of her and she is there's an angry mob screaming you know fu and stuff and the cop says you have to leave

and she's like why i didn't do anything and the cop says i can't control these people so we're gonna leave we'll make you leave because it'll you know be safe and then she says a very good point if you can't control them now you're not going to be able to control them even if i leave and that's true but this is a really good example the police straight up saying we will violate your rights in order to make our job easier that's it so so the police they do this all the time they will like they will arrest you saying you're you're you're out of line and you're interfering with police work because the crowd's angry at you. And this is because they're fearing for their own personal safety? It's the way I've often described it.

If you put a human being in front of a giant angry screaming mob and they say, okay, I can try and get a ton of officers to stop this mob or I can just arrest the one person. Oh, that's a slippery slope but that's what they do that's i see so so listen this is why i've explained that as as the chaos and the calamities escalates that there's a real fear that with these these extremists showing up to the homes of mayors and police chiefs like they showed up to the home of carmen best the seattle police chief and uh the neighbors came out with guns eventually they're going to come to someone's house and the mob's going to be so large. The people there like imagine if a mob showed up in front of our house and then we're like, what do we do? Call the police. The police show up and see

300 people screaming and throwing bricks and rabble, rabble, rabble. And they're like, oh, man, what do we do? And they're like, what do these people want? And they're like, arrest them. They're Nazis. Arrest them. The cops are like, we can't stop them. And they're like arrest them they're nazis arrest them the cops are like we can't stop them and they're gonna hurt a lot of people but if we arrest the people in this house maybe they'll stop so the police capitulating to mob justice is unconstitutional well of course the police can't can't do anything about it because they're not strong enough a cop arresting you for free for expressing your free speech rights because other people are threatening you like you're not committing any crimes wait the cop didn't threaten to arrest caitlin he kicked her i mean did he actually effectively kick her

out and did he even have backup or was he like a security he removed her and i'd be willing to bet she would have been arrested if she said no remember when ben shapiro tried speaking at that event and they and the cop was like if you cross this line you will be arrested i remember that yeah exactly what did ben shapiro do nothing he was he was going to speak at a college campus protesters showed up started screaming rabble rabble rabble and then uh ben was like i'm supposed to speak here and the cops like i don't care is it because the cop's job is to keep the peace at a local level whatever the national law or state law is it's the local peace i don't know first priority i don't know man i don't know if their priority is supposed to be

keeping the peace but i'll tell you this i have a right to speak i have a first amendment right if other people are committing crimes the police need to arrest those committing crimes not me and and peace can come from like subduing who you hate like if a crowd goes and wants to lynch somebody if they get to lynch the guy then there might be peace afterwards but is that justice it won't be though let's be let's be real if if if they're if they get away with this like they do with ben they will keep doing it realizing it works a tactic yeah yeah yeah yeah so anyway let's go back to what's going on with the oath keepers the reason i bring all that up is they're staunch constitutionalists they're banned now because they're basically one of the things this guy tweeted and i don't agree with it he said the

shots have been fired the the guy who died in portland and he says we're going to give trump one more chance to declare the same marxist insurrection otherwise you know we're going to take action or something like that and so And so there's very serious questions that are asked among very politically charged groups, even Antifa, at what point are they allowed to have a violent redress of grievances against the government? That's a scary thought. I think they should avoid doing that. If you study the Russian Revolution at all, this is kind of interesting, calling it Marxist,

because when capitalism starts to fail, as what it did you know 20th early 20th century the great depression was coming on um there other people look for other methods of economy and communism was the main one and so it looks like these people are in a similar situation with covid shutting everything down people losing their and so they're better than ever um it technically yeah society in general the poorest among us have it better than the richest 200 years ago i would argue definitely but responding to that uprising that with violence like they had the white army and the red army the basically the the monarchs tried to stop the communist uprising by creating a white army and fighting back against them so then the communist created a red army and fought back against them and just escalated the violence yeah so i don't

want to re relive that who would you rather win the far left or the far right i don't know who they are that's the problem it's just extremists are extremists well hold on hold on the oath keepers are they they purport that they are staunch constitutionalists they don't seem far anything that's middle of the road. You think? I mean, the Constitution's legit. Yeah. And then you have the far left, which are avowed Marxists and communists.

People that want a Marxist revolution is a little extreme to me. It didn't work in Russia. Really, really didn't work because you have to put somebody in charge of everybody's property. Yeah, you can't do that. If they had an AI system built out that was going to be like a literal, like everyone had a piece and we had, you could measure it on like a blockchain and see, and no human was involved with like passing out anything.

It just came to us. I could see like a technological revolution. I call it something other than communism. Who designs the AI? It would have to be free software. It would have to be agreed upon, voted on, and then we'd have to see the code well let me tell you something if there was if if there was i think one of the ideas the far left has in terms of their goal for revolution is that if they can purge any memory of liberty then people won't crave what

they don't know exists you know what i I mean? It's true. Book burning. So yeah, yeah, right? If right now... Actually, have you seen... Let's do some Marvel references. Have you seen Captain America, Winter Soldier? Negative. Yeah, I've seen it. That's the one where the bad guys took the Hydra-infiltrated... That's what it is, right?

Hydra-infiltrated... I believe so, yeah. And then they want to have the giant helicarriers just kill all the undesirables. Oh, jeez. Yeah, they're like, if we kill, you know, three billion people, those are the ones who cause the problems. Then we'll have a bunch of, you know, just like sheeple, I guess. They didn't use that word. But the general idea is they think that if you have a society that from birth was raised to never understand concepts of freedom,

then they would be happy. Ignorance is bliss. And that seems to be a tactic that they kind of go for. That's why everything they do is a lie. Everything is manipulative. Everything is deception. For me, that's the antithesis of life, what you're supposed to do, explore, create, experience. And so they want to create

a rigid, gray, colorless, you know, cube world where everything's like just... Have you read A Wrinkle in Time? Oh, man, when I was like seven. We do not want that world. What is that world like? That's the gray, colorless,

mother brain controlling everything world. The Borg. Yeah, basically. And then you have the Borg queen controlling everything. Ooh, funky. It does feel like we're headed towards Borg reality, man.

Are you going to get the neural link? I'm going to let the people that have debilitating injuries test it for 10 years, you know, five years. Yeah, kind of like a right to try thing almost. And if they turn out to be superhuman and have mega access to the internet, yes. Super cool. Like the neural link people? Yeah. So there's an Outer Limits episode about this where everyone is connected to something called the stream.

But then, like, the general idea of the stream is to give people access to knowledge. So they have these brain implants, and they don't think for themselves for the most part because they don't have to. They'll be like, there's a door, and then they'll think. Like, it just streams the information right straight to their brain. So they know where everyone is. They know what everyone is doing. And so there's one guy who's got some kind of, like, where he can't get an implant he has to read books he's a normal guy but they call him disabled because he can't access the stream right but then something happens where the stream's goal

is to like acquire information and provide that information to people but everything is information so it starts creating information where it's like how many hairs can you pull out of your head? Just like arbitrary. Oh, that sounds like Twitter. No, I'm just kidding. No, no. But right. That's kind of what I'm getting to where you'll end up with a bunch of people.

Like, look how bad Twitter is. Right? Is it even a bad thing that Twitter is banned? You know, the Oath Keepers in a sense? I don't know why they ban them. Well, because they were posting things like, you know, the first shot has been fired and whatever. Well, that other girl was posting...

Exactly. All that violent stuff we were talking about yesterday. Yeah, yesterday. Yeah, that's a good point. If it wasn't imminent calls for violence, then I don't think they should have been banned. Exactly. What was that lady's name? I'm going to look her up.

Oh, crap. I don't remember. I agree with what you say about removing information. I think if someone's in that path i don't agree with them whether they're far this or that yeah you know what i was thinking too the fact that if you did take liberty away from us within a generation everyone would have forgotten because people adapt so quickly this is why we've come up with like word of mouth like storytelling this is why we write stuff down and write books and we communicate with our children it's because we

don't want to forget the stuff that happened before us we stopped doing it this has happened and before we know we're going to lose all this stuff we work for it's like have you guys seen uh stargate you have a movie like we're just doing movie references tonight i guess tonight is when james spader's the man when they meet the people they can't write because the the aliens realize that humans having the ability to share information and record it allowed them to fight like realize their freedom and their rights and so the the enslaved people on the other planet are like scared of writing but because of this they can't organize properly and fight back slaves weren't allowed to learn to read or write and they had a verbal tradition too this is why they ban people

from the internet interesting do you think that liberty is a natural human desire? Yes. 100%. Yeah. Okay. Then you can never stop it. Listen, they just banned the Oath Keepers like today, I guess, was it? I think so. Yeah. So I made this point, right? We talk a lot about civil unrest, the potential for civil war and all this stuff. And I hear all the time from the right, they're like, if there's ever a war, we're going to crush the left.

Yeah. And they like high five and chest bump stuff. I'm'm kidding but they say like the left won't know what hit them because we have all the guns and stuff and my response is your your internet will kind of will cut off you're you're gonna be sitting in your house and you're gonna be like i'm ready if these people want to take my constitution i'm ready to fight and then all of a sudden your internet goes out and you're like i wonder what's happening then what do you do they're all organized now because they because they control social media twitter twitter just banned the oath keepers and they allowed this black lives matter woman who said violence is the only way to stay up

this huge screed about how they have to get violent and that's allowed to stay that's it it's been up for days and you have antifa actively organizing on the platform and the oath keepers gone i I wish I saw what literally was the thing that banned them. Is that public knowledge? That's another problem with banning someone is you lose access to what it was that got them banned and then how do you... That's a good point because you're

like, how extreme are they actually? Because I know that people like to call anybody right a Mao, you know, far right or whatever. Here, check this out. From Talking Points Memo. With itchy trigger fingers, some right wingers predict the next civil war has finally arrived. And they say, quote, the first shot has been fired, brother, said Stuart Rhodes, founder of the armed anti-government group Oath Keepers. I don't think they're anti-government.

I think they're constitutionalist. He says, quote, civil war is here right now. We'll give Trump one last chance to declare this a Marxist insurrection and suppress it as his duty demands. If he fails to do his duty, we will do ours. Yeah, I would contest to that being constitutionalist is being anti-government because the entire point of the Constitution was to constrain not the people, the government. What that guy typed is legal, but Twitter's terms isn't about what's ever legal in the u.s that's one thing it's all mine is it's like what's legal can do on the platform so that

would be allowed on mines but on twitter it's i don't know what their terms are probably and and you mentioned we talked about the other day the lady saying violence is the only way or whatever and you said that would also be allowed it's not imminent violence it's not saying do this violent thing on this day at this time because then you're calling for imminent violence. That is illegal. So that would come off minds. Right. But just saying let's get dirty.

Let's go. Let's kill them. I mean, it's crazy to say that, but it's legal. Really? Yeah. Wow. As long as you're not saying let's kill this person. What if what if you said, like, I'm so angry, everyone burn it all down, burn it all.

Yeah, it's too vague. It's legal. That's vague. Yeah, that's saying burn it all because you're not saying burn it all down. Burn it all down. Yeah, it's too vague. It's legal. That's vague. That's saying burn it all down. If you say burn it all down at 2pm on Tuesday is illegal. Yeah, the courthouse. Yeah, for sure. What do you mean? It's imminent. It becomes an imminent threat when you give a time of day. Oh, if you say

go do this. Right, right, right. If you said everyone go out, burn it down. Because there was a guy who actually said that, right? Like during Ferguson? Yeah, I think so. He was like, burn it all down. Something like that. So this is the big issue, man. If you don't have access to technology, how can you

actually win? So you think if someone attempts a violent uprising that the tech companies would be in cahoots with the government and shut them out? Cut off their ISPs? Cut off their communication tactics? It's hard to say. What's hard to say.

What's the allegiance of these corporations, right? I know, that's really freaky. They're very ideological. They're corporate. It's just their allegiance is to their business plan. No, they're very left-wing. Maybe, but we've seen them overtly, like, I think they're willing to sacrifice business in exchange for ideological gains.

Some of them. Twitter, especially. Yeah, Jack. Like, Twitter is, you know, some people have argued why is it that they allow Antifa to stay on the platform? There's actually a really,

really good answer. You know why? So the cops know what their plans are. Good point. Otherwise, they'll be in the shadows. They're not concerned

about Stuart Rhodes saying, you know, whatever. So Twitter is just like, get rid of him. And then you have all these Antifa accounts saying, here, we're gonna go do this this thing at this place and then you probably have the cops saying please don't ban them they're giving us their intel oh

wow maybe yeah yep it's impossible to know that's crazy but so so the main the main point though uh is would twitter side with the far left in the event of some kind of civil war and it's like the answer is yes whip of a coin man no who runs twitter of some kind of civil war? And it's like the answer is yes. Whip of a coin. No, no. Who runs Twitter? We don't even know. Oh, it's overtly stockholders.

Yeah. It's so. So here's here's here's my prediction. I've had this conversation with people. I'm like, listen, let's say that's on November right now. Twitter and Facebook have both said if Donald Trump tries to declare victory in the election, they'll they'll remove his posts. This is after the votes come in?

Yeah. Oh, wow. If on November 4th, it is a Trump landslide with no possible way for Biden to win. And Trump says, we did it. I won. There's no way that mail-in votes will get it. They said, if Trump tries to declare victory early, we will remove those posts. Twitter and Facebook said that.

Just Trump, not Biden. Just Trump. Do you think they were insinuating that anyone that does it would be removed? But that's a dumb question because they didn't. They just said Trump. Right. So here's what happens. November 4th, landslide Trump, 400 electoral votes.

No way Biden can win. Trump comes out and he has a press conference and says, even if the mail-in votes come in, no one expects, you know, the experts are saying, and you'll get like a bunch of conservative outlets saying there's no way you could possibly flip these to Biden, even with mail-in votes based on, you know, traditional voter like turnout and stuff like this. Then Biden refuses to concede like Hillary Clinton asked Hillary Clinton straight up said Biden should not concede. So he goes, I am not going to concede because we are going to count these votes to the very end. Trump says there's no way you can win. I'm the victor. A week goes by and all of a sudden, huh, record voter turnout. Who'd have thought they found a bunch of ballots just stacked in

the back of a post office? Well, convenient for them. And then Biden squeaks by with just enough electoral votes for a narrow, very narrow victory. And then Biden comes out and says, you see, we've won. And then Trump says, this is not possible. And then you have two factions declaring victory. Trump then says, we're going to sue, we're going to sue. They say, well, we're going to sue you back. No one knows what happens. And then you end up with a circumstance where you now have Trump declaring himself victor,

Biden declaring himself victor. What do you think happens in that scenario? That would be like an instance of a potential civil war when you have two leaders nope that are at it nope what would you think would happen nope new york times washington post the wall street journal time magazine news week start printing biden's the victor biden's the victor done and then just try and just move if you tell someone a lie enough times they start to believe it and then what happens when trump when i'll put it this way what would happen if trump does win and it's and because they won't give us the results right away trump wins

you know 400 whatever electoral votes then uh trump says i won there's no way they can win and then all of a sudden all the media companies just announced biden won that would be like not treason i mean i don't want to use that word improperly what if what if what if uh what if you know someone from the clinton from the democratic campaign or like i was gonna say podesta who was clinton's campaign manager they go and they say here's the proof here's the documents we won and then the new york times all these mainstream outlets say you know uh election commission reports that we've reviewed show that Joe Biden is, in fact, the winner, even though the official election results reported to the federal government would show Trump the

winner. In fact, Joe Biden won, right? So now you've got the media telling everyone, no, no, look, we went over the numbers. It's true. Joe Biden won. And Trump starts saying, I won. Then Twitter bans Trump. Then you've got a bunch of people actually within the government, right? Let's say a bunch of Secret Service people and a bunch of feds know for a fact it's certified a Trump victory, but the media is reporting otherwise. So they go with Trump. They say, don't worry, Mr. President, we're going to get a hold of things. And they start rushing to the White House or whatever.

And then all of a sudden, a bunch of National Guardsmen have their phones go, and they all see this. Donald Trump is trying to stage a coup. New York Times, Washington Post, Trump is trying to stage a coup. New York Times, Washington Post, Trump is trying to steal the White House. What will they believe? And their commanding officer is sitting there saying, I don't know. Who won? That's drastically confusing. Who won? Trump is still president, right? Until the 4th, no matter what, until January something. Until January 20th. So if there's a contention, he's still president until the 20th. Right so so that's why i think that scenario is and if twitter banned him he would go after twitter

in those months what could you do uh make him reveal their code or something he just he can't do that i don't know what he would do but he i think he would i'm not trying to rest to be honest i don't know i i'm not saying that scenario will happen i'm trying to make a point about what happens confusion if yeah if if there comes a point where Joe Biden and Donald Trump are both standing there and they both point to the Secret Service and they go, arrest that man. Hopefully the Secret Service won't do anything. The Secret Service is going to look at their phone and they're going to see all the mainstream media saying Joe Biden won. Yeah, but they're supposed to be Trump's bodyguard or the president's bodyguard. What I mean to say is the media is on the side of the left and so is social media and if trump can't communicate and

trump supporters can't communicate then then regular people are going to see trump as the bad guy because the media will say so that that's probably kind of what's happening already exactly exactly um so with the votes coming in and it's going to be confusing there's going to be mail-in votes right it's decided we're doing mail-in votes in many states not every so it's going to be give it two weeks after the uh the fourth before you start deciding who won because they're going to have to count all the stuff it's going to take weeks i gotta tell you man i'm really excited for november 4th till january 19th it's gonna be awesome you know why because no no i think that look it's a rainfall what are you there's gonna

be a lot of bad things a windfall there's gonna be a lot of bad things but if trump loses i'm actually really looking forward to that you know why could you imagine what that guy's gonna do when he knows it's like go on rogan first immediately which you should do anyway i lost it's fine telling everything here's here's a book of all the pardons oh that'd be awesome everyone yeah and i think he pardoned everybody what i literally He could do that anyway. Win or lose. He could just go on a pardon spree. Well, I think he should pardon a lot of people.

That'd be great. That'd be great optics for him and for his family. Whether he wins or loses, even if he doesn't know, it's going to be like January 19th. He's going to be like, well, I guess Nancy Pelosi is president. No one has any idea who won the election. I'm just going to pardon everybody. Just goes for it. And he's like,

just goes nuts. So there's actually an article that came out today where they were panicking about it. And it was like, it was like, what does it call? Like the 78 days of destruction or something. It was like, yeah,

the day, the day after the election until the 20th, Trump is going to unleash fury. And it was a picture of Trump, like looking like grim. And there's like to unleash fury. And it was a picture of Trump looking all grim. And there's fire behind him. And then America is floating above the fire. Oh, they're crazy.

And I'm like, I don't know about all that. But Trump will probably order a withdrawal of all the troops. And it'll jam up the courts. They'll go to the courts. And they'll try and block him. And he does a bunch of things. But I think he's going to... Man, I want to believe could you imagine

if he was like flint water crisis allocate federal resources solve that problem snowden assange pardoned soldiers in the middle east withdraw everybody just legalize marijuana everybody executive order offenders well he can't legalize it but he can put an executive order ordering them taking it off schedule one. Not to enforce. Oh, great. Congress would have to do the scheduling, I think. But he can say no longer enforce marijuana laws, de facto legalization. But then he could also say nonviolent offenders, free to go, pardon all.

So anything he was going to do in his second term, he'll do before. He'll get it done in those days. Hopefully we don't have to force him to do it in a few months and give him some time because i think he's going to figure out new stuff to do as time goes on yeah of course as president who knows it's going to happen i think uh there's there's always a lot of developments and the interesting thing right now is that although they keep saying joe biden is favored to win the polls are in his favor sure sure nate silver tweeted that the only safe bet for biden is if he wins five points more than trump of the national popular vote then he's safe what does that mean exactly so if joe biden gets 45 and trump gets 40 okay that's percent yeah the national

or if joe biden gets 49 and trump gets you know 44 but if joe biden gets 47 and trump gets 46 or what was the what was the percentages last time it was like the 40s like 42 yeah i would say 42 40 yeah so so like trump got 40 if if it's within two points trump has a 78 chance of winning what's that because electoral college favors him oh cool rural states okay yeah they jam too many people up in california you know but that's weird yeah yeah so when you look at the Electoral College, I don't think Joe Biden's going to get a five point lead on Trump. I don't know much about the, like how it's built, how that system works, unfortunately. Well, so the general idea is in the national popular vote doesn't matter because California

and New York are so populous. Of course, the Democrats will win the national popular vote. Okay. But when you factor in the Electoral College, because the president has chosen chosen based on states, then Trump is favored because more states are willing to support him. So it's hard to know, man. There's been a lot of there's been a lot of changes in the polls. But if I look at the polls now, I look at Joe Biden's character. There's there's a lot of reasons to believe that Joe Biden's absolutely going to going to lose i know but there's reason to believe he's going to win well it wouldn't be a biden victory be a trump loss exactly yeah right right right right the media

is smearing trump they're not pushing biden at all because there's nothing positive barely anything positive about that guy to show oh dude he talks and makes mistakes with his words, which is hilarious. It's sad. Did you see the guy from the Biden campaign was asked by Brett Baier, does Biden use a teleprompter? And the dude just was like, that's a Trump talking point. I am not going to allow Trump to filter questions through Fox News. And Brett was like, so you can't answer yes or no. Does he use a teleprompter?

Of course, Biden uses a teleprompter. Here's what people don't get about Biden. Let me clarify some things for you. People say he's a gaffe machine, right? Oh, yeah. He always has been. He is a gaffe machine. But what people don't realize about a lot of his gaffes is that the prompter stopped moving.

It's that simple. And he has no. And so there was one point where he said his wife. Improbability. What did he say about like he repeated her name? Yeah. My wife, wife, my wife, my wife. Improbability. What did he say? He repeated her name? Yeah. My wife, wife, my wife, my wife. Yeah, yeah.

So something was wrong with his teleprompter for sure. Exactly. It was stuttering or something. No, it stopped. Yeah. And it was stopped on his... Right, right. He said something like, this is Jill, my wife, my wife, my wife, my wife. And people were like, what's he doing?

Oh my gosh. Because the prompter stopped. Dude, that guy was a plagiarist. And then he was like, my wife, my wife my wife and people were like what's he doing oh my gosh because the prompter stopped dude and then he was like my wife my wife there's actually 90s he plagiarized and got like made fun of he plagiarized his speech last week or whatever yeah i'm a canadian guy this is insanity yeah joe biden man just give it i mean no vote that's the way it works you know just give it to somebody but let's just kind of work on other technologies together. Yeah, we could focus on other stuff. Here's one of my bigger concerns about everything.

So the Democrats blocked the COVID relief package. How's that work? So they needed 60 votes in the Senate to get it passed. And it's not. It's like 52 Republicans or whatever. So it was partisan lines. And the Democrats, in their bill, they wanted to ban voter ID. Why? Yeah, so why? that's like make secure make make elections less secure do people not have ids is that is that a common thing no are there citizens no i mean mine's expired i'm in the process of getting a new one really some people

don't have ids but no i still have an id i have my passport i mean right you kind of got to have an id yeah exactly to be a functioning person so I feel like what we're seeing with this, with blocking this bill, the Democrats wanted to change a bunch of election rules. They wanted to change voter voter signature verification rules to give people a chance to correct them, which could draw out the election. The Republicans said no. The Republicans offered up covid relief. The Democrats said no. And it's just purely tribal lines, purely tribal. This two party system is gone. It's going to collapse and it's just purely tribal lines purely tribal this two-party system is gone too far because it's not about do we need covet relief no it's don't let the republicans win that's craziness and they want to tag things into it like a voter registration law into a

covet relief yeah isn't that weird well to be fair the republicans put in like fbi fbi building and like new abrams missiles or whatever has that been legal since the beginning of the country i think so it's just like what do you do you can't add something else to a bill but how do you determine what is like you could argue it's hard how do you how do you define the terms you know i don't know i don't know a good point like is it in the same genre of what you're voting on is it is it related to covid relief if not no, it can't be part of this package. Well, they're going to argue, well, as part of COVID relief,

we need a strong federal apparatus to enforce the rules around COVID. So they talk. It's a big talking game about talking. It's a debate. Yeah. Convince them of nonsense. I'll tell you what, but I'll tell you what.

If people in the government are like, we're going to provide COVID relief and build tanks, I'd be like, yeah, what else is new? Give me the COVID relief. If the Democrats are like, we're going to provide COVID relief and build tanks, I'd be like, yeah, what else is new? Give me the COVID relief. If the Democrats are like, we're going to give you COVID relief three times higher than Republicans and weaken all of our election processes, I'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are they called?

Earmarks? Yes. Something like that. They stick random stuff into bills. It's called pork. It's so weird. Random stuff. Yep.

And I want a boat. Yeah. I'll sponsor this, but I get get a boat we get a congressional boat 90 page bills that i don't think they they like hire lawyers to write for them and then they don't even have to read it before they vote on it let's let's let's jump to this next story real quick because this kind of falls in line with some of what i was saying oh yeah check this out new york high school student arrested for attending in-person classes on remote learning day. What school district says Maverick Stowe displayed irresponsible and selfish behavior with today's latest publicity stunt. Well, I learned his name, I guess. Maverick Stowe is a great name, dude.

Cool name. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I thought that's that's a publicity stunt. He's protesting the coronavirus regulations in place at his school, at William Floyd High, in Massac, New York. The teen was being held at the 7th Precinct in Shirley, New York, on Thursday morning. His mother, Nora Stowe, told Fox News. Okay, listen. That's the gist of the story.

They're doing remote learning, and he's rejecting this. So they arrested him. That's insane. I mean, like, we're getting to the point where the whole system has gone insane in my opinion right the bigger issue i have and the reason i bring this up is i don't i don't understand what we're supposed to be doing we're not going to school we're going to school what what's the democrats position again because i don't i don't i don't understand like i don't are they into school choice no no i have no idea does bite even have a position

on this stuff i don't know trump is school choice yes so so so so wait wait wait they want us to keep paying for these schools even though you'll be arrested if you go there yes are you tracking i'm just yeah i'm not tracking either but but they don't want their your parents to be able to watch you get taught even though they're paying for it exactly that too and also they do want you to attend in zoom meetings for your college classes and they will charge you full tuition for the semester it's a wonderful situation you know what man i was sitting here and i was gonna my main segment today was like they're cheating it's so obvious they're cheating so uh will willlain, he was

supposed to be here the other day, but he couldn't make it. He has a tweet. It's really good. He said, basically, mail-in voting is low integrity. He said in-person voting is high integrity. Absentee voting is high integrity because you request it and there's a process. Universal mail-in voting is low integrity. It just goes out to everybody. If you want low integrity voting, I can only assume it's because you intend to cheat and i'm like you've got the dr burks you got dr fauci saying it's safe to vote in person straight up they said it that's where it should end it but doesn't it doesn't we're still locked down there's still you can't go to the restaurants there's 25 capacity waiting waiting rooms and we have to have universal mail-in voting and i'm like

you're you guys cheating aren't you then twitter and Facebook come out and they're like, if Trump declares victory, we will ban him. Well, we'll delete the posts. So if Trump literally wins, he can't say. It's everything being stacked up. Trump needs to diffuse out of Twitter. He needs to. What's the word when you. Divest.

Yeah, he needs to divest into multiple platforms. Because he needs to be able to speak to the public. And Twitter and Facebook are going to ban him. Yeah, he should not have to go through a corporation. He should be on Mines. He should definitely be on Mines. Here's why I bring this up. It's kind of like, look, there's only so much to be said about the New York high school student thing,

but it brings up a really good point about the absurdities of the Democrats. Democrats. Democrats. Another one. Spin the UFO. You're on a Korean slip. The Democrats are pushing this absurd policy. So it's like, we're going to shut Spin the UFO. You're on a Korean slip. The Democrats are pushing this absurd policy. So it's like, we're going to shut down the schools, but you have to go online and use

remote learning and you have to pay even though you're not like, how is it that, you know, we agree when we move somewhere. It's like, I'm gonna move to this neighborhood. Okay. Here's the property taxes. Here's what the city provides and everything. Okay, I get it. Well, now the schools are shut down.

Okay, give me that money back. Why do I just have to give you that money? Right, you're not using their bathrooms. You're not dirtying up their closets. You should be at least like a third of the price or half the price or something. Give the money back. Well, Trump is for school choice. But it seems like it really does feel to me everything we're hearing

from the media i shouldn't say everything but a good portion of it's just all insane lies like uh you know donald trump calling troops losers and suckers and then calling the generals you know i don't we call them a stupid word and i'm just like i don't believe any of this it really does feel like they will do anything to just it's chaos it's chaos versus order and it's like the extreme ends of it so this is i've decided that 2020 is the year of audacity they don't have a mask anymore they've taken it off they don't care and i don't know if it's because of the pandemic or if we've just been building up to it they stopped caring they don't care that we know it they're gonna cheat they're doing all this stuff and uh yeah it doesn't bother them at all they're brazen yeah because that's kind of the point i'm i'm just i'm just exhausted by all

this stuff arresting kids dude well it makes me think of australia like what have you seen the videos of people not wearing a mask on a train the cops arrest them and they're because it's under british commonwealth law it's legal apparently to arrest people for not wearing a mask on a train or whatever the rest of that pregnant woman yeah because for posting uh about uh to go do a protest because they're not allowed to protest under british commonwealth law because well no that's because of the covid lockdown right right it's their law against the covid thing so like i don't want that kind of tyranny in the united states i don't like people getting arrested for this mask. Give it up.

We already have a study that says 94% of COVID cases were at least 2.6 other compounding comorbidities. 94% of the registered deaths had at least 2.6 other comorbidities involved with the COVID in the system. 94% of the deaths. So it's like 180,000 deaths were just COVID. Or was it 9,000? 4% of that, right? 6% of that? They were all caused by COVID,

but the bulk of people were vulnerable people, which is the real point that's more important. A lot of people are confusing it, saying they didn't actually die of COVID. That's not true. But it's a point that Ben Shapiro made a long time ago. A long time ago. Protect the vulnerable, get everyone back to work. And it's a point that Ben Shapiro made a long time ago. A long time ago. Protect the vulnerable.

Get everyone back to work. And we should be doing that anyway. That should be always part of our life. Look, man, I'm telling you, you know, it really was. I was having a conversation with some very stoic, high-profile people that I know. Like, you know, because we're just like, it's incredible what's happening this year. And I said, man, I hate to do to do it but i gotta get conspiratorial like the last year moody's analytics said if the economy remains stable and uh there's uh average

voter turnout trump wins heavy like like 400 electoral votes it's gonna be huge chaos then what happens yeah we get covid and the democrats immediately crush their own economies yep this hillary clinton scandal in 2016 against bernie sanders with the wiki leaks drop where it showed that they were specifically trying to get him oh it's not win that that is the beginning of this i think where it just got blown open and and the media never really followed up barely followed up on it they don't want to talk about it. The Biden Tara Reid allegations are like hideous. Where did that go? That was corroborated because her mom called in and like in the 90s, like this happened to my daughter.

They're like, interesting. Yeah, it's absolutely. I don't know how deep we can even go on that on YouTube. But I mean, it's just this is like a rape scandal, basically. Oh, totally. Totally. I mean, look, there's a lot. The challenge is there.

People have accused Trump as well. That's a good point. Trump is not a saint. He's i mean look there's a lot the challenge is there people have accused trump as well that's a good point trump is not a saint he's an animal he's he's but but it's it's funny because i made this point earlier when i said something like where are the smears against joe biden and then i had people criticizing me being like dude you rag on joe biden all the time and i'm like i know i do like where's the new york times you know highlighting these things yes sometimes there's negative press for biden and the worst we see is like joe biden's basement strategy is working like okay it's not really a criticism of his basement strategy butcher joe biden yes they alive joe biden i love that was amazing why do they want not want trump to win

oh trump's just because they want a warmonger in office oh definitely that's what it comes down to is they need the military machine to keep moving or something donald trump moved to bring our troops back from afghanistan and uh and germany a few a month or so ago and now look at what's happening with all the smears trump hates the troops you know trump knew about covid like they have unleashed the kraken on Trump of negative press. And it always coincides with Trump being like, war is bad. The American people don't want war. And they're like, end him. I remember, because I think I was talking about this with Michael Malice when a few years ago, Trump fired the missiles at Syria. And then we had pundits saying,

is this Trump's true presidential moment? It's funny. What was that article where Trump was saying that America is addicted to war or something? So I was reading the other day something from Eli Lake, and he was talking about how Trump was pointing out that military generals hate him because they are, in fact, addicted to war. I think those were his exact words. And he said, you know, the soldiers love me. The troops love me. And I was like, that makes perfect sense to me. He's the one who sent the generals out of the room so that he could talk to the troops it makes sense that they would love him according to the polls they they're voting for biden oh sure i don't believe any of this what's happening this is ridiculous i think the polls

are nonsense i think they're trying to create the illusion that biden's going to win because they're cheating and they need people to expect that Trump like think about it this way. What if everyone in this country really did plan to vote for Trump? Let's say 90% did. How many of them talk to each other to know it's at 90%? Probably not that many. Not that many. So what happens is you've got a handful of people and all their friends that are voting for Trump.

Then they turn on the TV and it says Biden's got 12 points up and they're like, wow, how do you really know if you just trust the media? They just tell you that what the vote's going to be before they vote. Like that's so ridiculous. There have been instances where TV stations have actually accidentally run election results before the election. But but but the excuse is that they have demo versions ready. So basically what they do is they'll create the graphic and they can type in the vote totals and they put in fake totals as like an example. Jeez. And then they've accidentally published it and people are like,

what is this? I've seen testimony of people that built technology that'll flip votes. Easy. Yep. It's a normal thing. There was a kid at DEF CON, the hacker convention, who it took him like 10 minutes to hack the voter machine and flip all the votes. Yeah.

When Trump won in 2016, it gave me hope for democracy. Like it's real. Yeah. Oh, definitely. But maybe that's maybe that's the real conspiracy. No, but but but I agree. I was like Trump winning made me believe that was possible to actually that we had to win an actual Democratic institution for a weird way to to realize that

but yeah this guy can win yeah wow the elections must be real yeah dude i didn't think he was going to win because i did not have faith in the election me neither i wonder there's a here's the crazy conspiracy i was actually predicting record low voter turnout very early on i was thinking like seeing these protests and seeing everything people were demoralized why would anyone want anyone want to go and vote, especially after like all the Occupy stuff? Nobody felt like they were being represented. And then all of a sudden you get a Trump phenomenon. And this is not something I made up, although I certainly think there are pieces you can add to it. And I certainly have the idea. So I remember seeing people protesting outside of Trump's rally in Fort Lauderdale saying that Trump and Hillary were friends and that it's a trick and Trump is being propped up by the establishment as the fake

underdog. And so they really believe that Trump isn't actually for the people. The theory is essentially they want Trump to win and they're propping him up to make it seem like the people chose him against all odds. So it restores people's faith in the electoral system. Because even if you don't like Trump, you recognize anybody really can win. And you better go vote, right? There was a fear that voter turnout was getting so low that people were losing confidence in the system itself. And that's really dangerous for the country.

Right. Now think about where we're at now. Trump supporters are like, wow, I can't believe it. It's true. You have to vote. We won. And the anti-Trump people are like, oh, my God, he really won. We better go vote.

There you go. So now everybody. So now they're expecting like a historic voter turnout. Well, another great thing that you can pin on Trump's lapel. That's right. Restoring faith in democracy. My biggest fear is like the school lockdown stuff. And it's the intersectionalism.

It's the cult of identitarianism. Yeah, that's the one. I keep thinking of Seattle. My mind keeps thinking of upper left. I'm visualizing a map, and I just feel this tension in this northwest, the riots and the fires. It's wild up there. It's bothering me. Jeez, yeah.

You know what's funny is that if you took the political compass and you stretched it out so it was the shape of the United States of America, what would the top left quadrant be? Yeah, you're right. That would be the Pacific Northwest. The authoritarian communists. Authoritarian left, yep. Art imitates life. And what's up in Maine? No, it doesn't really make sense.

There's no Nazis in Maine. I know. but in Maine you can like walk in and buy a gun apparently like it's super chill and it's beautiful up there yeah oh no wait actually they're they're they're no wait oh my oh my what so I was actually there was a meme talking about uh it was it was there was white nationalists talking about Maine and they were they were making a very racist point about how maine is run by democrats but they don't have gun control and so they're making you know because the demographics yeah so it actually does fit the

political compass in a sense i know like that so i want to live in florida and and california is the surfer hippie dudes like yo dude do dude, do your thing. But they're left wing. Florida. Florida's where it's at. Florida's where it's at. Yeah, man. Except for the alligators, the 12-foot alligators that roam around. They're just chilling.

There's some crazy alligator videos on YouTube. Maybe, is Florida some anarcho-capitalist place? Florida, man. Have you heard of Florida, man? No, it's right by the Keys, you know? Yeah. But it is funny that the upper left quadrant of this country is the authoritarian communist quadrant.

I know. And it was so soothing and cool before with all the rain. It was so neat. Well, you know what it is, too? I think this is important. People are depressed in Seattle because of the cloud. It's always cloudy. That's why I never moved there.

So I lived near, I think it's called the 26th Street Bridge. I'm not entirely sure. It's been a really long time. But I lived in Fremont, and called the 26th Street Bridge. I'm not entirely sure. It's been a really long time. But I lived in Fremont, and there's this bridge out of Seattle. And whenever, when you walk across it, there's signs on it. And it says, feeling suicidal, call this number. Oh, wow.

Now, when I lived there a long time ago, you could easily just like, whoop, jump right off. Wow. They've since put big. Yeah, where they curve in. Right. You can't. So it's really hard to get over. They did that in. Right. You can't. So it's really hard to get over. They did in my hometown. I was told that the depression is legit because it's always cloudy.

Makes a lot of sense. And so what happens with these Pacific Northwest areas, why do you have so much rioting? Because people are just in a dark place all the time. And now they're in their houses and they're told not to go out. It's even worse. They're sitting in the corner and there's like mold growing around them. And they're like, they're sitting there. It's wet and moist. Yeah, it's just gross. They're sitting in the corner and there's like mold growing around them. And they're like, they're sitting there. Wet and moist.

Yeah, it's just gross. They're sitting on an old pizza box. It's still a beautiful city. I don't know. I've never been, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mentioned Portland's got this really great hot sauce called Secret Aardvark. Oh, what's in it?

You had some, right? You tried it. Here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what it was called. Remember it had all those hot sauces and like, yeah. Yeah, those are great. Those are Portland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People keep sending us those. People keep sending us them now. Send I had all those hot sauces? Yeah, those are great. Those are from Portland.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. People keep sending us those. People keep sending us those. Send us more. No, no, no, no. Don't send us hot sauce. No, we have enough. I love hot sauce.

We have enough. I mentioned it. I was like, I call it the Antifa hot sauce, and people are like, wow, it's from Portland. They go, oh, yeah, yeah. That makes sense, yeah. And I'm like, no, that's probably mean, because I don't think the people who own the company are like, they're probably just business owners, you know what I mean, doing their normal thing. Support local business. Yeah, no, that's probably mean because I don't think the people who own the company are like, they're probably just business owners doing their normal thing. Support local business.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How about we jump over to Super Chats? Sweet. You know, yeah, let's just read Super Chats. What do we got here? We'll pop out these Super Chats. We're chilling. How are you guys doing?

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Simius the First says, I don't think humans desire freedom. The only freedom that has been desired by all peoples in all places in all times is the freedom of your tribe, ethnicity, or nation. In regards to political and individual freedom, most people across history have not cared for it. That's a really good point. I'm one of those anomalous individuals where I just want to be left alone by everybody. Yeah, I just want to, like, if I had to make a choice, I'd be like, I'm going to take this pointy stick. I'm going to keep walking that way.

You can all just leave me alone. I'll find my own rabbits to eat. But how would you enforce that? The weird thing about freedom is that we have to enforce a state of freedom by creating a non-free system. So we impose ourselves with all these laws so that we have this semblance of freedom within it. Yeah. It's like we created these barriers around us and then say, here's the things you can't do. And the denser the population, the less freedom you have.

Yeah. In order to establish freedom not but it's not even it's like it's it's not to establish freedom it's just it's just you you have true freedom when you're in the middle of the woods like it like go to go to antarctica you have freedom you know what i mean good point do you have space totally free like you could split look listen in what part of the world could you strip nude and not have to worry about any other human taking offense the jungle sahara desert you know what i mean yeah like rainforest but it's not you can't live there that's the thing true freedom is not habitable like you need like domestication there's like there's like a bubble of freedom right the further you live from a city the bigger your personal freedom bubble gets true so one of the reasons

i want to move out here is for one to get away from the cities for a lot of reasons mostly the the escalating violence and the protests but i want to play music you can't play music in new york you cannot you're you're you're stacked on top of each other yeah you need to rent a studio oh yeah and so they create those spaces now where it's like really noisy inside you have these little cubicle rooms to play in and so i was like you move out of the city and your freedom bubble starts expanding when you live in the city your freedom bubble is literally just around your body. Dude, the smell too. You're never free in the city because that's the brake dust.

No, but think about it. I could yell at the top of my lungs right now. We all could just scream and we're fine. Okay. But if you're in New York City, you can't do that. Not really. You can't do it. Yeah.

So your freedom is curtailed, you know? So is it weird that I like the book of Eli, the movie, because he spends most of it walking across the desert by himself? I'm like, that's perfect. I like that movie because he's like self-reliant and says, leave me alone. Yeah, he's doing his own thing. It reminds me of The Alchemist. You guys ever read that?

No. Awesome book. Also travels across the desert. Very cool. Perfect. Let's read some more. Let's read some more Super Chainsaw People. Also, smash that like button if you have not done that already.

Hit it. Jane McGurr says, strange laws in 1838 removed 1976. Missouri Governor Boggs issued Executive Order 44 and it states, the Mormons must be treated as enemies and must be. Wow. He says, is this real, exterminated or driven from the state if necessary for the public peace 1830 wow man that's creepy scary stuff we got first amendment man you can't do that people don't realize that the constitution is actually stronger today than

when we first started the country but now it's getting a lot weaker like the fact that they would say that in this country yeah what was like, it was like a local law? Free speech was not a thing, man. Like, we had obscenity laws. Look, George Carlin got arrested for the seven words you can't say on TV. Dude, men couldn't go out without a shirt on until like 1915 or 17 or something. They had to vote to get that. Decency stuff, yeah. Yeah, you couldn't show the nipple.

Wow, the Mormon extermination order. What? Holy moly. How is that possible in this country? That's crazy. Yeah, the saying is it's legit. It's legit. Here we got another one.

Simeas I says, people will tolerate tyranny as long as it is from your own tribe. Look at Zimbabwe. The black people fought against the tyranny of the white government. When they won, Mugabe came to power. Zimbabwe tolerated tyranny for decades because he was one of their own. Unfortunate but true. That's creepy. Nelson Karayenis says, Tim, have you heard the podcast called It Could Happen Here?

It's pertaining to an American civil war. There is a section in it about how rural people can live without internet and electricity and crush a city by shutting down trucking, water, food, etc. Yes, absolutely. People don't realize I was reading something about it. I think something like 16 people could win a civil war against the United States. Oh, absolutely. People don't realize I was reading something about it. They said, I think something like 16 people could win a civil war against the United States. Oh, wow. Because all they would need to do is pre-plan and coordinate interstate highway shutdowns

for an extended period of time. Yep. So there's like... Trucker strikes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yep. You just block the road and then you jam up all the trade and...

Yeah. Crazy. Yep. So yeah, it's creepy stuff man people don't realize how delicate the system is it really is imagine you have this giant machine like it's printing newspapers right it's huge and you take one little like you know i don't know a paper clip yeah and you chuck it in and it gets into a gear and it gives me hope because the system is so easy to destroy but it's so hard to get it right.

Yeah, man. And we get it right. Like on a daily basis, humans get it right. We drive down the street. It's 70 miles an hour past each other. Within a few feet of thousands of time a day. It's amazing. We get it right.

We're built to get it right. I often think about this like when I see a squirrel. And like the squirrel like climbs the top of a tree. And it's like 50 feet up. And it jumps like 15 feet to the next tree and then catches the branch. And I'm like, do they ever fall? Because I skateboard and I fall, you know, and I'm good at skateboarding. I've been skateboarding for man, like over 20 years and I still fall.

I'm like, how does that squirrel just get it right every time? Well, the truth is they probably don't, you know, but then I think about driving and I'm on the highway and there's like a two foot divider and I'm going 70 and the car's going 70, go right past each other. Yeah, when your life's on the line. And it's like, whatever, you know, I'm not worried. You get it right. It's amazing we don't crash more. Yeah. I know, it's incredible.

We're geniuses. We're genius machines. We're good at what we do. Let's see. Ola Mandorius says, I've basically got a form letter set up to copy and paste whenever someone tries to lie about the coronavirus response and another for when someone says trump said to drink bleach with reference links and everything it's gotten to that point that's great it's it's crazy i remember when um was it uh people started accusing sarah palin of saying i can see russia

from my house i remember that because tina fe a joke. Oh, she never actually said it? No. Jeez, the media. It was Saturday Night Live, wasn't it? The funniest thing is that Sarah Palin's point was actually a pretty good one. She said that part of her experience as the governor of Alaska could help the U.S. because she actually deals

with relations with Russia. There's the Bering Strait. There's a trade strait, and so you have a lot of vehicle traffic, and they have to coordinate with Russia when these ships and everything are going through. And she's like, so we work with them regularly.

I mean, you can see Russia from Alaska standing at the westernmost point. Then Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live goes, I can see Russia from my house. And everyone laughed at her. And now they, it's like a joke. And I think about it, and I'm like, and what if you could see Russia from my house. And everyone laughed at her. And now they, it's like a joke. And I think about it and I'm like, and what if you could see Russia from your house?

You remember when, I think it was Alec Baldwin was doing Trump. Somebody was doing Trump on SNL a lot when he first got elected and then they stopped. Yeah. Everyone just stopped. They did kind of quit. Trump on SNL.

Well, they brought him back though. No, they brought him back. Alec Baldwin started doing it. Oh, good. And it's the weirdest thing to me that Alec Baldwin's impression of Trump is probably the worst impression. Yeah, it's not good. Yeah, it's terrible.

It's not a real impression. He looks nothing like Trump. He's just really famous. He does this weird thing where he closes his eyes and hangs his mouth on it. That's so stupid. Unfortunately, Larry David was not a good Bernie Sanders either. What? But he looks just like him.

He's good. No, that was a good... I think he's good. He's just being Larry David. That's true. Kind of overly angry. That's true. That's true.

They're just kind of angry. The Trump impersonations, though, were just awful. I'm he's just being Larry David. That's true. Overly angry. That's true. That's true. They're just like the Trump impersonations that were just awful. I'm like, they're not actually impersonating Trump. They're just trying to their idea of Trump. But Alec Baldwin not only didn't act like him, he didn't sound like him. He just they put him in a suit. It's like you're Trump now. Very low. I am Trump.

I am playing Trump. I thought your impersonator, John Oliver, yesterday was the best. I remember what I said. Frankly I am playing Trump. I thought your impersonation of John Oliver yesterday was the best. That was the best. I don't remember what I said. Frankly. Remember the orange man? He's very bad. The orange man is bad.

Yes, that one. John Oliver. I should actually do some impersonations. I'm actually really good. You guys like my Alex Jones earlier? Yeah, it's great. I love him. I love him.

I don't know why. I just feel like I can. It's because you're two steps away from Alex Jones it is we have a studio around you you know yeah the essence of what he experiences somebody mentioned he like shouted me out or something I appreciate you'd be a hilarious guest I I can handle it I remember back in the man he's entertaining uh I mean you know I don't watch his to comment, but I remember when the Epstein stuff came out, people, I think Joe Rogan may have said this, people were like, oh, this guy in Apology, Alex Jones.

He's been calling out for a long time. Yeah, but he's been calling out a lot of stuff. I know. When he talked about the interdimensional aliens. Oh my gosh, that's so weird. Entertainment first, news second. Yeah, exactly. That's a good rule of thumb for Alex.

All right, let's read some more of these. Let's see what we got here. Let's see. Morgan Lippincott says, do you think an American version of the BBC or CBC would help in ending the craziness with the mainstream news media? The answer is no, because we already have PBS and NPR. Are those national? Are they literally national or are they privately owned?

I think PBS is privately owned, isn't it? I think they get there. Made possible by donations from viewers like you. So maybe it's not the same. It's not, yeah. But NPR is funded. Yeah, National Public Radio? Yeah.

I think it's funded by grants. We also have like Voice of America. Don't we have that, right? Yeah, yeah. Like Voice of Europe or something. I don't know, whatever. But like a national... We don't have like the CBC.

It would have to be done right because the government's no better than a corrupt corporation. It's gone wrong. It could be harder to influence. You know, I will say, though, but I probably would like our own version of that. Yeah. Yeah, just because I like the competition.

I love the idea of C-SPAN. That works really well. If we could have more like C-SPAN. C-SPAN's fantastic. Yeah. Let's see what we got here. Jack Daw says, I have white privilege. I start a business renting out my white privilege. Pay me and I will advocate on behalf of PO Yeah. All right. Let's see what we got here. Jack Daw says, I have white privilege. I start a business renting out my white privilege.

Pay me and I will advocate on behalf of POC. Very cool. Go to court banks and buy property for my POC clients. Sit at home gaining wealth and land paid for by the labor of my POC. That's actually a really good point. If POC, I'm sorry, if white privilege is property, then you could be a whiteness firm and be like, right? You can rent out your body. You guys could be white male firms. firm and be like right you can rent out your body this could

be white i'll be the one who files your paperwork i'll be the one who goes to court for you and you know it sounds like a lawyer stay away that's great and you sign away your power of attorney and then i just represent you so it's like you go to you the dude gets arrested and you go to you go to court and they're like it says here that the man who got arrested is a five foot eight hispanic male and there's like a arrested is a five foot eight Hispanic male. And there's like a like a six foot three, like, you know, blonde hair, blue eyed white guy. And he goes, I have power of attorney and I will be representing him as him. And I have a lawyer. I identify as this person.

I identify as him. Done. Nailed it. He's got a name tag. And then he's like, I reserve my right to remain silent, your honor. That's right. And then the judge goes, you know, I had some assumptions about you but i was wrong there's something about you that's just different from what i expected case dismissed so trustworthy yeah so so trustworthy little bear says marine

veteran and truck i drove through most of those areas days ago uh sky was orange and red like out of a horror movie love y'all work and stay motivated. Yeah, it's crazy, right? So are the fires making it hotter and the hotness is making more fire? I wonder. Blocking out the sun maybe though? You think it would be cooler if there was no sunlight. Yeah.

Unless it's just keeping the heat from escaping because it's... People are going to have lung problems. Seriously. Weirdo. Michelle Therese says apparently 90% of arsonists had recorded mental health history and very few can be rehabilitated. Very scary. Interesting. Ian is a great fill-in guest. I vote we keep him. Alright.

Very good vote. Thank you so much. And by the way, I read the chat last night after the show. I re-watched the show and read the chat. You guys are hilarious. I love you so much. I love our chat. Okay. They're wonderful. You guys are great. This is so fun. Let's see. Hasim Retna says, Enjoyingina says enjoying as always tweeted this to each of you video from neda on twitter of live radio from northeast of black subaru from texas driving on i-205 throwing molotovs out the window oh ham

radio frequency 155.430 155.1 i know keep up the great work wow man I wouldn't be surprised because people people like it's the Joker man they want to watch the world burn I'm telling you a copycat if they see the article they don't even know it's a something they can do until they see someone else do it here's my chance to get away with it all right let's see John Hutto says if voting by mail is secure

why do I have to be in person with ID to buy a gun can't they prove I'm me via the mail the same way they do voting there you go what's more important your right to vote or so so what's more dangerous someone getting a gun or losing your right to vote uh well i think find danger what i mean is if a civilization lose if the people lose their right to vote that's more existentially dangerous. Exactly.

In the long term, for sure. Fascism, right? You got to throw. Oh, so. So there we go. So we need we need voter ID. We need to shore up the security for our votes and everything. True.

And then get gunned by mail. Yes. Oh, OK. Perfect. Yeah. That's good compromise. Well, you can 3D print guns. That's a whole other can of worms. You know, one of my favorite things that people like the conservatives saying right now is

that if gun ownership is a right guaranteed by the Constitution, then it should be subsidized. That'd be cool. What if they gave everyone a gun for their 18th birthday? That'd be so cool. I don't think that would be a good idea. Or at least pay you back most of the taxes or whatever. If we had training programs. Which we probably should.

And kids knew how to shoot and all that stuff. I would have loved to experience something like that. The GMV? Yes. No, the DGV. Yeah, yeah. like that. The GMV? No, the DGV. Yeah, yeah. The Department of... No, it's not the DGV. The Department of Gun Vehicles?

Yeah, that doesn't make sense. Yeah, no, I want a gun vehicle. It would be the... It would just be like the Gun Commission. Okay. Okay, that works too. Let's see. Ahmad Khan says,

I am a Trump-supporting Muslim going to one of the most left-leaning college campuses in the U.S. So many Muslims just support Democrats when we have a lot of conservative values that Democrats trample. Love the show. Good luck. That's what I don't get. It feels like there are so many groups that are very conservative, but for some reason just vote for Democrats. So weird. Yeah. Hispanics and African-Americans. I don't understand. Constance C says, love your channel, guys. Thank you for keeping us informed. Hopefully you'll replace CNN soon. That's the goal.

And proud to say we're about 50% of the... So when it comes to TV ratings, my channels obliterate all of the primetime hosts. That's so cool. When it comes to CNN online, I get just over 50% of what their views are. That's huge. One guy. But they do have a bunch of other channels too. And they pump out crazy amounts of videos and

youtube props them up right so i think in terms of influence it's not just about me it's like crowder and sticks and these are like the go-to people i name and like kakalinsky and then like even the young turks way more influential than a lot of these mainstream channels cnn's like a network of how many people work at cnn over a lot yeah yeah yep yeah but one guy can go on the internet and complain about stuff what a world to be to be fair though cnn employs a ton of people who do boots on the ground reporting although i think they don't do that great and they do you know ear to the phone reporting should focus i i do very little uh like a most of my stuff right now is commentary but that's one of the big plans i have we've been trying to get a space for over a year.

And the goal for the space was actually a higher journalist so that we would actually start doing this. And we do have, you know, we do have our friends over at SCNR who are literally doing on the ground journalism and stuff like that. So I don't act like we're not contributing. But the goal I have is to do a lot more original reporting. That's going to be awesome. Less of looking at like a Fox article. Like right now we got like a Fox article pulled up. Now we get our own sources. Yeah. That way we know for sure like so check it out we did this original story we talked about this guy how we say he yeah he was a supporter of black lives

matter there's no article explaining all of this so we i want to get someone who can like break it down and say to the best of our understanding this guy very likely was here's why here's the source here's what we've confirmed. Yeah, kind of like Axios style. Simplified. Easy to understand. Yeah, and then we would actually have our independent sources and we could talk about it. That'd be great.

Yeah. All right, let's read some more of these here. Questions. Stoked. Aleda says, I've long thought about self-driving cars and these moral conundrums. The solution is simple. Put a slider in the settings menu that lets the driver choose the level of self-preservation they are comfortable with. Kill everyone.

I don't want to die. I'm just not feeling it today. Protect me at all costs. All right. Let's see what we got. Scrog CW says, Tim, please do real research on Oath Keepers. They are not far-right terrorists. We are veterans, et cetera, that have sworn an oath to defend our constitution from enemies, foreign or domestic.

Right. That's what I was saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what we were saying. yeah so then i don't believe they're far right yeah the article said they were but that's ridiculous and i and you even said they were like middle of the road constitution is that water be thirsty he's drinking your water yeah well it's his water now yep you can see him on the camera oh it's awesome he just jams his face in your water so famous yeah so um i famous. Yeah, so I met the Oath Keepers in Ferguson. And it was really funny because they were walking around during the riots. And then some people started yelling at them like, what are you doing here?

And they're like, we're here to keep everyone safe. And they're like, well, then you should be protecting us from the police. And they're like, we are. And then somebody was like, wait, what? He's like, yeah, definitely. We think the cop's stepping out of line. They're cerebellum fused. They're like, wait, what?

Like, what? Yeah, yeah. They were like, we don't like the cop stepping out of line. So we're here to make sure everybody stays they're like wait what like what yeah yeah they were like we don't like the cops stepping on a line so we're here to make sure everybody stays safe and that was like interesting yeah i like that it's the neutrality of the american constitution exactly so jean the great says we must make sure our turnouts on election day are greater than 53 percent of the state population they cannot ballot harvest or mail in back-end victory with a population that doesn't exist.

Yeah, well, a lot of people don't know or care, man. I gotta be... Look at him. He's going at that water. He's chugging. He's getting it. He does that. He doesn't drink all day, and then he chugs. He doesn't trust any water but yours.

He's like a poison tester. He's royalty. He's like, I'm not gonna drink this random ball on the ground, you nuts. That's so weird. All right, let's see what we got here. Reginald Enterprises says, one thing the militias have on both sides is the radio waves. A lot of them are ham radio operators and can communicate across the country without external assistance.

Interesting. What's the range on ham? It's like super far. Yeah, it is, I think. It bounces off the stratosphere, I believe. We should learn more about it. We should build some. We could build a tower.

Yeah. Let's do it. I knew a dude once who created a pirate radio station and he got in serious trouble. Oh, that's cool though. I don't know him very well. I met him at a party in LA. A friend of a friend who was like, he got arrested I guess. He didn't really get in that much trouble. They were like, dude, don't do that. He was like,

cool thing. All your friends are criminals. Yep. Let's see what we got here. Read this one. We read this one. We read these ones. Jeffrey Paris says, check out the book Influx by Daniel Suarez.

It's about culturally disruptive tech like AI and cold fusion controlled by the government. The central theme is it is the nature of consciousness to resist domination. Interesting. Wow.

Well, we're we're all we're all to be. Scott says, watch the TV series Continuum, all based around corporate government. Seems what corporations are trying to do. It reminds me of that. It was I think it was a family guy joke where they were they were making a parody of an of like an 80s sci fi movie. And it was like two people running on Mars towards a building. And they were like, oh, no, it's the corporation. Like the government is the corporation or whatever.

Yeah, that terraforming Mars is all about corporations. Yeah, that makes sense. You know, taking the lead, which is basically what Elon's doing. You gotta outsource it. All right, let's see what we got here. Oh, man. Oh, we got a bunch. We got a bunch of these.

Thank you, everyone. Just jumped in. Jump on in. The Mighty Mitochondria says, love the show. Wish you guys the best of luck. You nailed the sentiment of Seattle and the Northwest. As someone who lives in the suburbs of Seattle, it is quite depressing here. But compared to that of rural parts, it's a completely different state.

Interesting. Interesting, yeah. Black and White says, it's about time you talked the possibility of Civil War, Tim. The American people need to know it could happen. You have a responsibility to keep giving us the unadulterated truth. So far, we are all proud of you and Lydia. Appreciate it. Not Ian, though.

Nobody likes Ian. No, not yet. Not yet. He's got to earn it. Lawrence Atuck says, Tim, dialing in from the end of the world, Hawaii. Love your show and what you're doing. How are you liking your guns that you bought? Have you had a chance to get out and shoot practice?

I have not. But I really love it when friends come over and i'm like hey i know where i hide my own guns that's good and then we're like let's we go i'm like i have a safe and you know isn't this crazy crazy i know where i keep my own weaponry you you guys want to see where i hide my guns agent tune says fun fact a squirrel hits terminal velocity very quickly and so will likely survive without harm a fall from nearly any height where it can remain conscious. Dude, how amazing would it be to be a squirrel? You can just like climb up to the top of a tree and go like, yeah, and just jump off and go, whoa.

I love those animals. I feed them nuts. Do you ever feed squirrels a hang? This dude's chugging, man. He wants it. If he eat a salt block. Get some milk. Now he stops.

He knows we're talking about him. Too much energy. What about cats? Cats can survive. Cats can survive. Like they like spread out and they like they can survive. They can like long distances, too. I don't know the physics of it. You know, I have an idea that I want to do.

I have I had this idea for a lightweight carbon fiber wingsuit for cats. And the way it works is when you know when cats jump, they'll put their legs out. Yeah, that that motion will release the glider. That's cool. cats and the way it works is when you know when cats jump they'll put their legs out yeah that mech that motion will release the glider that's cool so when they jump and the wings come out and then they glide but when they land and their legs go down it reverses the mechanism and folds the wings back if it's lightweight enough i think they'd get down we're gonna throw the cat off the porch aren't we thin carbon fiber another reason to start a graphene revolution and then you can we're not gonna throw the cat i was gonna say we're gonna make it so that when he's jumping when he's

jumping between the couch and the coffee table he glides yeah betsy could use one of those i want to be a flying yeah well she's too fat she's too thumped i don't want her to thump betsy's very fat she bounces it's okay all right what do we got here colin sanders says look up comprehensive sexuality education. Sex ed starting at kindergarten, present in 27 states. Texas is debating it in November. Whoa, really? Wow.

Now, I got to be fair. I don't think there's a problem with some sex ed at, like, any grade, but it's got to be, like, what I mean by that is teaching kindergartners about boys and girls are different. Right, of course. Than teaching first graders about. Times have changed. Kids are seeing pornography at pornography at like age four on the internet so maybe you have to start no no you don't give them the full i don't think it's gonna mess them up keep your kids away from that but i mean then they go to school and one kid has an iphone and shows all the other ones when i was in sixth grade some kid printed out a bunch of stuff and like

homeschool your kids yeah dude definitely at least till a certain age definitely homeschool your kids man kaylee mim says crowder does the best the best impression of trump okay oh everybody agrees crazy dog lady says the riots have taken place during the pnw sunny season rarely rains in the summer but yes yes yes but what i just mean is like people there are more depressed than like on average so yeah, yeah, you have the sunny season for sure. I just think people are really, you know, kind of all the time. Yes, just like that. Without the vitamin D. Yes.

Yeah, definitely. Oh, man. I wonder. Yeah. So was COVID more prevalent in the Pacific Northwest? I wonder. Wasn't that where it started in Washington? Oh, that's right.

You're right. That's right. That's right. Okay. Figured it out. Zappy says, Tim, did you hear about the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomy Region Committee being credited in the new Mulan movie?

I heard they are one of the organizations that are responsible for the mistreatment of Uyghur Muslims. Yeah. That's correct. And now you've got people saying, I don't normally want boycotts, but I kind of think we should boycott Disney. Both sides do, yeah. Here we go. Shadow of Machine says, there is the civilian marksmanship program. It should be expanded. That's cool. I'm going to look it up. Shadow of Machine says, there is the civilian marksmanship program.

It should be expanded. That's cool. I'm going to look it up. Greek Oasis says, Greek Oasis says, on the subject of how fragile our system is, just remember that September 11th was orchestrated by 19 extremists.

Seriously, man. Knocked down a couple buildings. And that anniversary is tomorrow, man. Yeah. Oh, it is. It is. Didn't see that coming. Never forget.

That's a great topic. Nanin says, my high school had a pistol and 100 yard rifle range shooting 22 lr rifles was part of gym class they had to remove the firearms class and built tennis courts over the range in the late 19 in the late 90s that's kind of a bummer man gregory chu says fyi before the gun control act of 1968 you could order guns by mail and have them delivered straight to your home. Oh, man. What? What happened? Wow.

You know what it was, though? A lot of racists. It was like the chaos of the 60s with the hippie movement and the Black Panther movement and Nixon trying to quash it all. There was all that legislated. They must have legislated away gun rights or something. So I was watching something,

and they said there was a lot of racists who didn't want to see. It's actually really interesting. I was watching something. You know Adam Ru a lot of racists who didn't want to see. It's actually really interesting. I was watching something. You know, you know, Adam's Adam ruins everything. Yeah, they did something. I think it was Adam ruins everything where they had a conservative guy and a liberal guy. And like they're arguing and then he like explains things and explains how gun control is racist.

And then they show some like mock Black Panthers. And I actually appreciated this when he says, you know, it was actually in California. They didn't want the Black Panthers to be armed. So they started passing gun control laws. And then the conservative character in the show says these are just law abiding citizens who wanted to protect themselves from tyrannical government. And I was like, yeah, that's right. Like the idea that the fact that they did this calling gun control racist and at least

at one part, you know, depicted the conservative as not being a racist and at least at one part uh you know depicted the conservative as not being a racist and and really understanding why there are revolutionary groups that wanted guns i'm like and it's principled like the black panthers showed up in virginia at that big gun control protest and people were like awesome because those people actually had principles for what they believed in when it comes to a that's right that's like the it's like you've got the the nfac what's up the not effing around coalition all right walking around with guns and it's like just a couple of a bunch of americans doing what they're a lot legally allowed to do and with with 3d printing guns the way that they're advancing that technology trying to legislate that away is

just gonna make a mockery of the system so i think we have to there's a reckoning coming there was a photo there was a news story that was getting some traction and like the left was propping it up it was a bunch of black dudes in michigan standing on the capitol building with like rifles and and handguns and they were like look at this you know this is you know whatever blah blah we're standing up for our rights and some and something and i said it's not this is you know why you know why that's not news why is it news that some guys are standing on a public staircase with guns? It's not. It's not news at all.

It probably shouldn't be. It's not. So the news story is breaking news. Americans exercise rights. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Have a nice day.

That's out of the norm or something? But it was because a bunch of right-wing individuals showed up and the media said they were like terrorists and extremists. And then the left had their coalition of minority-led groups that were armed. And they were like, aha, see, we can do it too. But the 2A people were like, thank you. Yes, that's very awesome. This is so funny. We agree.

We want you to protest. It helps us. We're not mad at you. This is so funny to me because there's a picture circulating on the internet of a family that's armed like to the teeth they're african-american and they're like what do you think about this and everyone's like that's amazing we love that my response was they should have given the baby a squirt gun i know right like the baby's the only one who's not armed should have given the baby so you guys a lot of play with toy guns when you were little totally we weren't remember the cap guns oh i love those things yeah we did you get the paper wheel of light and then you put it

in the rock and and when you when you pull the trigger it goes pop pop yeah i love that it's got a gunpowder in it or something i'm gonna order some of those those still exist i'm sure yeah they're probably like illegal american made yeah maybe let's find it i bet they're super soakers yeah dude those are very cool yeah super soakers are cool one invention definitely addicted to adrenaline says hey Tim what happened to the other guy Adam just curious I probably missed it if you have already addressed it my bad

if that's the case keep up the good work my friend he's doing his own show he's doing his own show with his own guests and everything which I have been on oh yeah and Ian like is a go he goes back back and forth join he's on two shows and he's in the other room with his studio so it's like you know we we we hang out we skate we do our thing and he's doing his own shows and he's in the other room with his studio so it's like you know

we hang out we skate we do our thing and he's doing his own show and it's like taken off so it's still linked in the YouTube channel you can see his channel

and the stuff he produces you just said Corey DeAngelo talking about school choice last Saturday yeah yeah cool stuff Carlin Borisenko

good stuff Charlie Charlie says I consult for an IT company in Cali last week we had a talk about removing offensive terms from our code. Blacklist, whitelist, server, slave, cop, et cetera. Found out there's a whole movement about it.

Yep. Oh, give me a break. Oh, man. Yeah. You didn't know that? Did you not know that? Server? Yes.

They're making it up at this point. So when you go to a restaurant and you're like, who's my waitress? Sir, that's offensive. They're called servers. Excuse me, server. That's offensive. I am not a server for you. I'm a food dispensary specialist.

Oh, man. Why? I don't know. Is this good? No. This is retarded. It's stupid. It's taking it too far.

Pardon my French. Now you're going to get in trouble. Now I'm going to get in trouble. Blacklist. I know, right? Now you're in trouble. Okay. I said the get in trouble. Blacklist. I know, right? Now you're in trouble. Okay, I said the wrong thing. All right.

Okay. You know what, Lydia? You just, you crossed the line. Yeah. You said the offensive word, so we're shutting it off. All right. I'm just kidding. We're ending it.

Well, it's 10.03. It's 10.03. So, you know, let me just say to everybody, it is, it's actually fairly difficult to do guest bookings right now because of the lockdown. And so we've had a couple cancellations and it has a lot to do with one political uncertainty around a lot of people are scrambling and things are very very chaotic as we closer to the election and uh we're actually just ramping up the guest bookings and all the stuff so you know we'll probably end up with cancellations or whatever but it's fine because we're hanging out we're gonna do the show you know ian's hanging out so we're doing a good time but uh um i believe we

are we are uh scheduled for kimberly classic tomorrow correct and we didn't have uh will chamberlain and we didn't get brandon struck i don't know if i announced the brandon thing though nope we didn't i kept it low-key for that very reason yeah we were hoping to get brandon back in here but he's he's super busy as well and uh hopefully we'll have uh kimberly uh tomorrow but just you know i just i think we're trying to get, like, we had Sean Parnell in here. And that was amazing. We had so much fun the other week, yeah. But he's like the candidate right now for the house.

He's a hot topic. It's like one of the most important races. And I'm privileged to, honored that he was able to come in. So trying to get some really important and busy people. You know, we'll see how it plays out. But we'll be here Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. anyway, hanging out live. And so come back and busy people. We'll see how it plays out. But we'll be here Monday through Friday at 8pm anyway hanging out live. And so come back and hang out. We'll have clips throughout the day

tomorrow. Hopefully tomorrow night. I believe we're scheduled for Kimberly Classic. So that should be really interesting and fun. We'll talk about a lot of issues. Other than that, you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast. And you can check out my other channels at YouTube.com slash TimCast and YouTube.com slash TimCast YouTube.com slash Timcast News.

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