Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #132 - Trump Nominated AGAIN For Nobel Prize So Media Calls For ENDING It, Kim Klacik Joins

Episode Date: September 12, 2020

Kim Klasic congressional candidate from Maryland (@KimKBaltimore), stops in to spend an evening discussing Trump's second Nobel Peace prize nomination and the media's response to that, Biden's legacy ...of war, fake news about Kim, life in a city like Baltimore (or Chicago, in Tim's case), and Kim's platform and plans for the future.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How's it going, everybody? Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast. I'm hanging out tonight with a very special guest, Kim Klasick. Hi. You are running for office. Yes. Thank you so much for having me. In Baltimore. Yeah. It's going to be, you're going to win?
Starting point is 00:00:15 Of course. You are going to win? I feel like I've already won, you know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. We're going to hang out. We're going to talk. And of course, we're also hanging out with At Sour Patch Lids, the wonderful producer. Hey, how's it going?
Starting point is 00:00:26 And we got a lot to talk about. But I really just want to talk about, I think there's a really interesting, your perspective. You obviously had this very viral ad, 12 million views now, basically 163,000 retweets. Massive. And you basically just talk about Democrat failure in your city. Yeah. And I can kind of relate to that coming from Chicago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:47 So we'll talk a lot about that. But the lead story, of course, for most of you who have been following the news, Trump has been nominated for the second time for the Nobel Peace Prize. And wow, we've got huge news today. A normalization of ties between Bahrain and Israel, which is tremendous. Having these Arab nations recognize Israel's existence, normalized trade, travel, tourism, this is going to be huge. And obviously, it follows the United Arab Emirates deal, which is also massive. And then, of course, the Kosovo-Serbia deal. Trump has been busy working
Starting point is 00:01:22 on amazing historic foreign policy. So, of course, now we had a Norwegian guy nominated Trump. Now we have a Swedish guy. I don't exactly know how the Nobel Committee works or whatever, but we have the story. Now, here's the thing. Of course, I can tell you all these things and you're probably saying, well, that's pretty good for Trump. Yes, you've probably heard he's going to draw back our troops in the Middle East. And now the Atlantic, I believe, yes, has run an article saying end the Nobel Prize. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. It's it's no, I can believe it. It's it's Trump derangement syndrome. So we're going to talk about this and then we're going
Starting point is 00:01:57 to talk about a bunch of issues. We're going to talk about Kim's race and your, you know, your positions and kind of what you're hoping to do and your perspectives on the Democratic Party and the Republican parties, obviously. And make sure you hit the like button. It really does help. Subscribe to the show Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. live. And let's just jump right into the first story. And this is going to be just a kind of a segue into what I perceive as like ultimate Trump derangement syndrome. So it's actually very simple. Here's the story from the Hill. Trump nominated a second time for Nobel Peace Prize. Look, it's got 25,594 shares. This is incredible. A member of the Swedish parliament on Friday nominated President Trump and the
Starting point is 00:02:38 governments of Kosovo and Serbia for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize over economic cooperation and trade talks. And I can only imagine that with this new Bahrain announcement, Bahrain, Israel, there's going to be some more nominations and Trump maybe could win this. So great, great. I wonder what the reaction's been from the, oh. Oh. And the Nobel Peace Prize. The Trump nomination shows that peace had its chance and blew it.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And they actually show the Nobel Prize and they've scribbled out Alfred Nobel's face. Wow. That's so crazy, man. So, Kim. Yes. I'm sure you've heard a little bit about these historic agreements. And, you know, it just to me, you know, I could probably I could personally go on for a million years about foreign policy because that's like one of the most important things to me. It's one of the reasons why I actually am now.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I've been more supportive of Trump. He's pulling our troops out of the Middle East. Yeah. But I think, well, the first question I have is you're obviously a big fan of Trump. Huge fan. Yes, I am. Big supporter. You want to.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I don't even know where to begin with this. This is like the ultimate Trump derangement syndrome. Yes. To call for ending the Nobel Peace Prize simply because like the ultimate Trump derangement syndrome. Yes. To call for ending the Nobel Peace Prize simply because Trump's been nominated for doing something good. Right. Right. Well, obviously, you know, right now, like you said, it's TDS.
Starting point is 00:03:55 But at the same time, here we are coming up on elections. Right. And the last thing they want is a good story to come out about Trump. This is like them trying to abolish the electoral college. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's just like whatever they can do to make sure he doesn't look good, they're going to try to push it out. But, you know, this is what I love about President Trump.
Starting point is 00:04:14 You know, these are the things that he talked about that he was going to accomplish. And so here you have all these countries actually acknowledging how great he is with the trade war, and they can't handle it. They can't handle it. They can't handle it. They they will not allow this. This particular this week has been insane in terms of dropping bombs to just smear and drag Trump at a time when these deals are coming out. I'm looking at the news and I'm like, is Trump's campaign strategy to do good things as president? And the Democrats campaign strategy is to just keep complaining about Trump that's exactly what it looks like yeah exactly what it looks like and
Starting point is 00:04:49 you know not to talk about myself and my race but my opponent my opponent does the same thing he talks about president trump he talks about me but he has no platform this is like what democrats do you know and it's unfortunate because i don't know how they still have people that vote for them, you know, and then, you know, if you're talking about, you know, just how racist America is and how you want it to change, how do you then vote for the party with no platform to change it? I don't get it. I've looked at a bit of what like, say, Biden wants, and I've looked at a lot of what many Democrats offer, and some of them seem to be, there's a lot of what, like, say, Biden wants. And I've looked at a lot of what many Democrats offer. And some of them seem to be, there's a lot of Democrats who have, you know, obviously, like middle of the roads, approvable opinions. But then you'll see things in the media like this.
Starting point is 00:05:34 But you'll also see, you know, a good example for Joe Biden, in my opinion, when he was asked if he was for reallocating funds away from the police, he said, yes, absolutely. But then later he comes out and says, no, we want more more funds to go to different police programs. And I understand there's a nuance there. Right, right. You can you can reallocate funds from some areas and then fund other areas. But it really does seem like the question being asked of him was in line with the idea of defunding the police.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Right. It felt to me like he's just going to say what he has to say. Oh, yeah, That's that's what they're great at. That's what Kamala Harris says also. You know, it's sad because, again, it's just pandering. Right. But the fact that people still can't see this so many years later makes no sense to me. So Joe Biden's what? Almost 50 years. Yeah. Forty seven. You know, what has he done to even match what he's talking about today? Now we hear so much how he cares about black lives.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Really? This is this is what really, really bothers me right now is that Donald Trump has just nailed these peace agreements is being nominated for a peace prize. And Joe Biden comes from Obama's legacy of increasing wars. I mean, and I'm not here to rag on Obama. I think it's silly to be like, well, what about Obama? What about George W. Bush? What about Bill Clinton?
Starting point is 00:06:45 We have all these past presidents starting wars. In my opinion, I don't want to say it's a waste because I don't want to be disrespectful to the troops who need this funding for their safety and security. But I don't like the idea that we spend so much of our time and energy on these foreign conflicts. You had eight years of an Obama-Biden administration. Where were their peace agreements with Israel and any other country? Instead, it was conflict. It was Libya. It was more wars.
Starting point is 00:07:13 It was a civil war in Yemen, drone strikes. So anyway, I'm going to go on a tangent when it comes to foreign policy stuff. But here's the main point. People are actually going to vote for Joe Biden when he has a legacy of war and Donald Trump is staring you in the face with these peace agreements and withdrawing our troops.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Yeah. That is the crux of derangement syndrome. And I think, I don't know if it's correlation or causation from the Democratic Party to the Democratic voter. Like, do you think the Democrats do things if the voter says to do it or do you
Starting point is 00:07:45 think the voters just vote for whatever the democrat says to vote for you know i think it's both i think it's both right so right now you see what's trendy right black lives matter everyone's so upset it's both right is there an agenda behind it is that the dnc pushing it i don't know right i'm not gonna sit here and talk about conspiracy theories. But, you know, the fact that it comes up every four years is a little suspicious, you know. But yeah, I think the DNC controls some of it. And then there's those who get paid to also throw some fire. So I know in Baltimore City, we have a ton of nonprofits. You wouldn't know it by looking at Baltimore City that we have a ton of nonprofits to help with the vacant homes and the homelessness. You wouldn't know that.
Starting point is 00:08:27 But a lot of people are getting paid a lot of money for these nonprofits. And, of course, they're going to continue voting for those Democrats because they're the ones giving them the grant money. You know, so we always see where they leverage that urban struggle to get that federal funding and they do it annually. So I think it's both sides. You are preaching to the choir, man. I used to do fundraising for nonprofits. And the last run I had as a fundraising director was for a homeless shelter that was lying to people to make money. And they were telling everyone they were at capacity and these kids are suffering. And they had nobody in their shelters because
Starting point is 00:09:00 the kids didn't want to go there. It's a much deeper problem. And so what I ended up seeing is, yeah, they had their donors, and they made a decent amount. I'm not going to act like they're the biggest nonprofit in the world. But instead of actually solving the problem, they just set up shelters and then went to people and said, oh, man, all these kids, there's no space for them. How are we going to get them beds? You have to give us money.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Instead of offering up mental health services or a real solution to the problem, I felt like their goal was just to perpetuate this mirage, this fake image of what was really needed. They never did anything. I don't want to necessarily say where it is, but of course, it was a major urban Democrat-controlled city with serious issues that they didn't care to actually deal with and so for me i i voted for obama in 2008 and uh same you know hope and change and the wars things like that and then i was it was just the same to me a lot of the same stuff because because again for me i think i was coming into the political realm with like like, the Iraq War. This was when I was, like, a teenager, and I'm watching the stuff, and I'm hearing all this music, like, System of a Down, and I'm like, yeah, the war is bad.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And I started looking into it, and I'm like, yeah, the war is bad. And the media lied to us, and then they just kind of kept going with it for 20 years. Yeah, so I don't know. I don't know what we do to change people's minds so that they stop voting for the same thing. You know what I mean? No, I don't know. I don't know what we do to change people's minds so that they stop voting for the same thing. You know what I mean? No, I don't know. I mean, I voted for Obama in 2008 myself. I was so excited.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I was like, wow, you know, that overcoming story as a black president. We can no longer say the white man's keeping us down. Here he comes. Family structure, great husband, great husband great dad done it's over we don't have that excuse anymore he gets in there and what does he have a ton of excuses and i'm like this is not why i voted for you yeah this is not i thought hope change i thought all of these things were now going to be addressed um so i was thoroughly disappointed in 2009 i changed into a republican wow really yeah that
Starting point is 00:11:06 quickly i was really upset i mean but obama he he was inaugurated with january 20th 2009 right at what point in in 2009 where did you realize it was hold on there was a he went to some kind of meeting he had with jesse jackson And they were talking about the fact that it was so tough to be black in America. And I'm watching this and I'm like, you're literally the president of the United States of America. How is this even, you can't even have this conversation. You know, and it just kept continuing.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And I was just, I was over it. I was over it. I didn't tell my parents right away because I didn't want them to be upset. You know, usually if you're black, you're a Democrat. And I get that. But, you know, after talking to my dad about it, he was actually more conservative and understood. Wow. Why is that? I mean, I defer to you. I have no idea. They say that the black community just votes Democrat. Yeah. So, you know, for me, it was when you're getting news filtered in through your parents. Right. They always telling you, you know, it's Democrats are the ones that are socially liberal. They're the ones that are going to help you. You know,
Starting point is 00:12:13 if you're in a situation, they're the ones that are going to bail you out of it. And I guess, you know, maybe in their generation, maybe that's what they saw and that's what they believed. And so it just continued down. But then when you really look at it and you start that critical thinking for yourself, I mean, I talk about all the time, you know, most black families grow up in the church. That's a conservative value system right there, you know. And you look back at like the civil rights leaders, they were all at church on Sunday. You know, they talked about God often. And so, you know, I think over the years we just, you know, at church on Sunday. You know, they talked about God often. And so, you know, I think over the years we just, you know, walked away from that. And but then we continue still being Democrats, you know, and thinking that's the way to be. So I was reading
Starting point is 00:12:56 an article and they said it was it was it was it was around the time Kanye had done something. And there are a bunch of polls coming out showing that black voter support for Trump was very very high there were a series of polls earlier this year like 30 which was like unheard of and there was an article i was reading and i think it may have been i don't want to misquote somebody but i'm thinking james carville or somebody they said the key to the black vote is the church and that to me it sounds right based on the things I've seen on TV where they have this trope of like, you know, the churches and the politics around it. But then I thought to myself, I'm like, yeah, but the Democrats are like the opposite of Christian conservative values. Like they don't agree with a lot of what the church says. In fact, they kind of insult it a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Not necessarily the politicians. I don't want – I'm not – I just mean like the culture. You'll go on to social media. And what do they allow? They allow a lot of very anti-Christian, anti-church kind of rhetoric. But other religions sometimes, you know, they pretty much get a pass. So I look at pop culture and I'm like, that doesn't make sense to me. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:13:59 I think we're right on the cusp. We're right there. Like this is why we got to change things right now. It is grandma and great grandma holding on to that church lifestyle, right? You're still going to grandma's house for Sunday dinner. You know, you might not have gone to church that day, but you're showing up for Sunday dinner, right? So we're, I think we're at that point where it's like, what do we do? We got to make this decision to kind of come back and understand the importance of family values and family structure, just spending time with your family. And so I think I think it's honestly you can right now. And I believe in two weeks we're meeting with 30 pastors
Starting point is 00:14:34 in the Baltimore City area. And that's unheard of for any Republican. But apparently my opponent, when he was there in his previous terms, 1987 and 1996, he went to these same pastors asking for favors, you know, asking for their support. And he went in, didn't do anything, walked out. Right. Congressman Cummings comes in and now he's coming back and they're like, whoa, buddy, we remember you. You know, we were the pastor at that time. And so now they're willing to talk to us. And I think if we can get to his congregations, that we can do it. I mean, my opponent, his big voting
Starting point is 00:15:13 block was senior black women. Wow. And they are the ones in the church. So you think they're going to vote for you instead? I'm holding out hope here, Tim. You're hoping for them. I think we can talk to them the fact that they're even having the conversation is blowing my mind that's exciting yeah yeah how does it how does it end up you know i come from chicago you're in baltimore that you have decades after decades of their deck after decades of the exact same things being said it almost feels like uh there's a lot of people who they vote because it's kind of like a passive thing and they don't actually know or care.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah. I wonder, how do you, how do you, how do you change this? Well, I mean, you're doing it, you're changing it. So what are you doing? Yeah. So this is what's interesting. So, you know, I had the special election, right? This is when I went up after Congressman Cummings passed away.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I actually ran before, you know, against now Kweisi Nfume. He's now the incumbent because of the special election. Anyways, what we found out through that special election, because we had the mail-in ballots, right? The coronavirus lockdown. Number one, we couldn't go face-to-face and talk to people, right? Interesting. Number two, the senior black woman isn't on Facebook looking for my virtual conversations. Right. So I didn't reach hardly anyone, but we did have a nine point swing. So all of my votes in the city, I have Howard County, Baltimore County and Baltimore City.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Forty two percent of my votes in the city came from Democrats and independents. So I'm like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Somebody wants to change. And I haven't even talked to them. Right. So with that, you know, now you fast forward. We saw with the mail in ballots somehow 80,000 ballots went undelivered.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yes, I saw that. How did that happen? Right. And then so we're like, OK, so we lost. We got it. You know, I know the general primary is coming up. I'm feeling pretty confident about it. I said, but now we got to go figure out what happened with these ballots and who didn't get them. So we spent a lot of time in West Baltimore in the areas where you saw me take my campaign ad. And so in those areas, you know, we're talking to people like, hey, did you get your ballot? You know, did you get anything? And people were like, no, I didn't get anything. We talked to them and there was two things here. One, people move around a lot, right?
Starting point is 00:17:25 They didn't have an address where those ballots came. And then two, the people living in the worst living conditions weren't registered to vote. So I now, our team is out there seven days a week registering voters. We were doing two days a week at first. Now it's seven days a week. And then my field team is out there seven days a week knocking doors and doing the sign waving and all that. So thank goodness I have a team that is working so hard on this.
Starting point is 00:17:54 It's crazy, but that is the issue. We've got people living in the worst conditions, not even taking part in the process. And so we're out there explaining it to them. And I have to say, in the past, I think it's a month and a half, we've registered over 200 voters, right? From what I know, only 17% have registered as Democrats. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:17 You're registering everybody. We are. We're registering everybody. So, you know, independents came up a lot and Republicans now because they're sitting there talking to my team about what's the difference and this is what i was talking about in my rnc convention speech i go in my team goes in and we talk to people we're like what do we have to do to get you to vote for a republican and they're like you're the first republican i've ever met hi hi my name is kim yeah so cool yeah so you know it's like if we're not offering the
Starting point is 00:18:46 option i can't complain i can't say hey you know what are you doing i can't talk to you like that yeah i have to say i apologize i am so sorry the party hasn't been out here to offer you an option why i think i just asked a simple question where's the gopP? So, you know, when I said I wanted to run, I was told, and I quote, Jesus Christ could not win that race. Do not do it. We are not going to exhaust our donors on you. And so I said, all right. I'm not Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I know he's way better than me, but I'm going to give it a shot. And I'm going to just try to make my own money. And if you're not going to help me, that's fine. Because I've gotten pretty far in life without, you know, a ton of help. And I think I can do it. And now you have, I think, one of the most viral political ads ever, probably. Thank you. I wish I could take all the credit for it.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I'm not trying to compliment. It's a fact. Yeah. So this is August 17th. Democrats don't want you to see this. They're scared that I'm exposing what life is like in Democrat run cities. That's why I'm running for Congress
Starting point is 00:19:57 because all black lives matter. Baltimore matters. And black people don't have to vote Democrat. Help us win. And of course, it's you walking through the streets of Baltimore. 12 million views, 162,900 retweets, 317,000 likes. That's amazing. I think I think you struck a chord with a lot of people because I'll tell you what,
Starting point is 00:20:19 that I know I mentioned it a lot. I'm from Chicago, but I watched that and I was like, yup, I know exactly what you're talking about. And I didn't, I didn't grow up in the black community or anything like that. Like you did, you have a, you know, a kind of different perspective in that regard, but it's the same thing I see. Yeah. I grew up in a city that it was just Democrats all day, every day, nothing else, no matter
Starting point is 00:20:37 what. And then it felt like things only ever got worse for us or we only ever got screwed over. You have people would just just it's the craziest thing when i was told to go vote i was told just do democrat all the way down that was like who am i supposed to vote for just vote for all the d's i'm like okay and that was me when i was like 18 or 19 or something wow but that's that's i don't know why i guess you you brought it you brought it up earlier this idea that if you're in trouble, the Democrats are the ones that help you out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:06 But maybe that's not really the solution. Maybe the solution is hard work, responsibility. Absolutely. Family values. I had good parents, and so they instilled in me good work ethic and ambition. And that allowed me to succeed. And I look at a lot of other people I grew up with who did not do so well, who had this mentality of it's not your fault.
Starting point is 00:21:27 It's other people's fault. Right. So then they don't actually change their circumstance. But maybe that's the goal, right? Yeah. I want to be careful about how I phrase this, but some people, maybe I should just say it, the Democrats created dependency. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:43 I say that all the time. So you can say it yes yeah that's exactly what's happened and you know what's crazy about it i'll talk to some people you know i still show up and talk to people in the streets myself and this one guy came up to me the other day and said you're not gonna cut off my my food stamps are you he's like you're not gonna cut off my disability are you and I was like no sir but I just I just want to ask you if you were presented with a career opportunity where even if you you know with your disability you could do that career and you made great money and you had health benefits and dental would you then say you know what I'm going to take that over what i have right now and he said
Starting point is 00:22:26 of course and i said okay so you know is it really is the question then me cutting off these things or offering you something extremely an opportunity beneficial yeah yeah and so i think people are starting to understand and this is what i talk about on my platform all the time it is the opportunity piece you know when you go in west baltimore there is nowhere to work we are a food desert as they call it right there's no grocery store around for miles but it's a city that's weird it is yeah so um it's an interesting situation it's you almost feel like you're not in america especially not in 2020 i think that's like think that's actually a really easy, I don't want to call it a policy position necessarily, but something to look for in terms of solving the problem. Creating opportunities for people who, instead of just receiving benefits,
Starting point is 00:23:17 could find a way to generate revenue and help bolster their community. But I guess, is there anything specific about your, you know, your district that you've seen? Is there anything specific you would call out for the representatives as to what they should have done or things that they're not doing or that you want to do? Yeah. So I tried to keep it very simple for them in the very beginning, you know, by just showing the trash piling up. I'm like, look, you know, you are getting all of this funding, right? Baltimore City, annually, $1.1 billion since 2015 when we had the riots. You're getting all this money, but for some reason,
Starting point is 00:23:57 in these neighborhoods where they've got low income, they probably don't vote, they don't donate to your campaign, they're just being completely neglected. For some reason, you can't seem to pick up the trash. And this is what's interesting. You know, I haven't been in the area that long, but I talk to people and they say, you know, the trash got picked up and twice a week when I paid less in taxes. And I said, well, so now you pay more for the trash to pile up right there down the street. You know, rats are running everywhere. Rats in the middle of the day.
Starting point is 00:24:32 You know, and this is what kills me. Remember when President Trump was attacked by saying rat infested? Yeah. There was a young lady in my I was interviewing her. I posted the video. Right. And she said it's a rat infestation. He literally tweeted verbatim what she said.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And then all of a sudden, he's attacking Baltimore. The best part is she herself was black. Yeah. But it was racist to say those things. No, go ahead. No, I was just, you know, when everything came out, and this was in July 2019, I was in shock. I didn't say anything for two days.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Like I'm getting phone calls like, are you going to do an interview? Are you going to do it? I was in shock because I was like, nothing that's coming out is actually true. So now what? I know my voice isn't big enough. I know CNN, MSNBC, all those stations refuse to have me on. Right. So I can't correct the record.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Wow. So was that was that kind of eye-opening for you to watch to know what had actually happened and then to watch the media cover it like i i was already hearing about fake news right yeah but when it happens to you it's like this feeling like girl oh my goodness you know and and then i loved it because brian settler comes on cnn it was like let's talk about who this Kim Klay sick is. I'm like, oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And I was like, oh, tell me about myself. You know, and he's like, you know, she wasn't even elected to the Baltimore County Republican Central Committee. She lost. I'd been on the committee at that point for two years. I'm like, dude, you can literally just go to the committee website and see my name. So he was just straight wrong. He was just putting up. Oh, my see my name so he was it was a straight wrong he was just putting up oh my gosh everything he said was wrong meanwhile at this point you know i'd been on fox news i've been on one america you could see any interview and hear them say classic he says kim
Starting point is 00:26:16 clackick i'm like seriously i'm like you couldn't even so not only are all the the so-called facts wrong you couldn't even pronounce my name so how So how much research did you really do on this? Well, you know, I was mispronouncing Kayleigh McEnany's name for like a month or longer. And I just, it never occurred to me. But to be fair, I just missed that one. That's my bad. In terms of CNN, I don't even think they use Google. I don't think he actually looked into who you were or what you were talking about.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And I got to say, you know, I take particular offense to the left social justice narrative because it's rules for thee, but not for me. The idea that they could attack Candace Owens as a white supremacist, but then you could take a white man, a wealthy white man like Brian Stelter, and he could just totally misrepresent you. No one bats an eye. Now, I don't care about his race or yours. If he's going to criticize you, I think it's fine so long as he gets the facts right. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yeah. But it flies in the face of what their supposed narrative is really supposed to be about. Absolutely. And the fact that his show is called Reliable Sources. I know. I know, right? Kills me. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:27:23 And he wrote a book called, it's called like Hoax, I think. And he talks about the Fox News Trump. Oh, who would know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It takes one to know one. It's about like the Fox News to Trump pipeline. The craziest thing to me. So, you know, throwing it back to the first thing we're talking about with Trump and his
Starting point is 00:27:41 Nobel Peace Prize. When the news broke, at first there were like some tweets popping up where they're like, oh, Trump's going to, you know, he's being nominated. It's a huge deal. So I just, I did a Google search and I try to read a bunch of different sources. The only source I found that had a neutral presentation was Fox. It was Donald Trump has been nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by, you know, this guy. He's a member of the Norwegian parliament who's a conservative, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Here's what he said. Then they added in a little Obama criticism criticism i'm not surprised yeah all the other outlets were saying he was like a far right you know ultra nationalist like it just it was very very loaded and it wasn't telling me about what the guy was saying about trump or what his goal was it was trying to insult the guy or guy or poison the well before I had a chance to even understand what was happening. And that's the media today. Yeah. Well, outside of CNN, though, have you had any other run-ins with just fake news, putting out misinformation about you or your campaign?
Starting point is 00:28:36 Absolutely. So I believe it's MSNBC, yes. Tiffany Cross, not too long ago. I think. Gosh, what's the young lady's name on the on the view? Sunny Austin. Yes. Yeah. I don't watch the show. It's a lady. They both said that we were tokens and that's why we were chosen to speak at the RNC convention. And Tiffany Cross went to further and said it was a minstrel show wow i i had no idea i was pretending to be black i've been black for 38 years but yeah no it's it's insane and um
Starting point is 00:29:13 what's interesting about it is i wasn't even chosen by the rnc to speak it actually came from the trump campaign the rnc apparently wasn't too thrilled. They were like, oh, she had a campaign ad. That's cute. But I mean, this is the RNC convention. You were kind of last minute, right? Very last minute. I found out almost like when everybody else found out. And so that came from the Trump campaign.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So, you know, for her to say that the RNC is throwing us in there, most of the black Americans that spoke at the RNC were picks from Trump. You know, this wasn't like some RNC push to say, oh, look, we've got these black people. But then it's like, you know, damned if you do, damned if you don't. Right. Because if we weren't there, then it's, oh, we're all the black people. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:00 You know, this is why it's it really is easy to criticize their fake ideology. This I think the Democratic establishment is using the social justice progressive left and pretending like they care. It gives them they've really crafted this narrative so they can weaponize it in either direction, like you just said. But what's particularly offensive to me in this regard is the RNC was doing what they wanted, what they wanted, right? To prop up marginalized voices to express themselves. Right. And so they insult you directly with a slur because they don't like that you're speaking as a Republican.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah. That's, that's, that, that's the go-to, I guess. It is. But, you know, I've, I'm excited. I go on The View on September 18th. Ooh. Ooh. I'm excited. So I get to...
Starting point is 00:30:46 It's going to be spicy. Yep. I'm going to talk to Sunny myself. Do it. Oh, interesting. Set her straight. I'm excited. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:53 You're going to... Well, I won't go there. I don't want to ask about the racial components involved. But here's what I want to do. I want to jump over. Actually, no. I want to show this first, right? this is a story from the spectator kim klasick and the urban gop effort could a simple walk through the streets of baltimore expand the republican party now the
Starting point is 00:31:14 general idea that we're seeing they mentioned that you know you you launched this ad it goes viral and we had uh billy prempey on you know a couple weeks ago and ago. And he's brilliant. He's a really smart guy. He's awesome. Yeah. And he made a really, really important point about the Republican Party and what they need to do. He's in this district where it's, I think it's like D plus 13 or some or even more than that. It's like it's Democrat. Yeah. And so my question to him, which is a similar question for you is it feels like it's going to be a really uphill battle. I mean, for you, you're in a D plus 26 district, right? So for those aren't familiar, that means it's like 26 percent more Democrat or something to that effect, like it leans in that direction. But what he said was,
Starting point is 00:31:54 no matter what happens, if I win, I win. If I lose, I win. You know why? Because he's there. He's doing the work. He's talking to people and he's spreading these ideas. Right. And so the crazy thing to me is we kind of were broaching this a little while ago. Why isn't the GOP doing anything? You mentioned they said you can't win. Don't bother. Right. But how do they ever expect to win if they've abandoned these areas? Yeah. No, that's a great question. I don't know. And this is like, you know, even in a special election, I would do hashtag chipping away because you got to chip away right before you you know maybe I won't win but if you don't chip away you can't say it you got a positive mental attitude yes I am going to win I'm going to win but like he said it's it's a win when you just at least chip
Starting point is 00:32:39 away and expose what the other party isn't doing. You know, when we did the whole, when I uploaded the videos about the trash, and I have to say, at that point in time, in July 2019, there were, I think it came down to close to 70,000 backlog cases in the sanitation department. The Department of Public Works is what picks up the trash in the city. They went to City Hall.
Starting point is 00:33:04 City Hall was like, why aren't we picking up the trash in some of these areas? And they said, well, we need more funding. That's always it, right? They always need more funding. Then, you know, after Trump calmed down, he wasn't really talking about Baltimore anymore. You know, Congressman Cohen passes away.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Basically, I think it was not even five months later, we find out that they've taken that uh 70 something thousand backlog cases to 260 whoa and they didn't get more funding so i was like wait a minute so you picked up the trash you didn't get more funding what happened is it because you got called out on it because people started looking into it you know was someone investigating and then you thought you know what maybe we should go pick up the trash you know this is the kind of stuff that happens and it's again here's a situation where you didn't have to throw even any more money at it yeah it's not even a question of uh the congressional
Starting point is 00:33:59 representative where's any representative for these areas to get the job done did did it really come down to you know your efforts to finally start making people you know you know what i'm gonna stop right there and put it this way it's it's like market competition for politics if the democrats have a super majority it doesn't matter what their goals are they don't have to do anything because they know people are going to check mark the d on the voter form right as long as there's competition in any capacity even if it's a name only, people actually have to start working for the people they represent.
Starting point is 00:34:30 That's why you said chipping away. And that's why I think Billy was saying, if he loses, he wins because now there's some competition. We're going to be coming for you and we're going to go for it. We're going to try and make these changes. Well, so I'll put it this way. Your ad specifically highlights the trash. I'm sure you're familiar. You your ad specifically highlights the trash.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I'm sure you're familiar with Scott Pressler, right? Yes. He didn't he go to West Baltimore and he cleaned up? Yes. As soon as I post those videos, they came out. Trump was talking about it. You know, he messages me and he's like, I'm going to come up there and pick it up. And I was like, OK, but which which street? All of them. I don't know if you've been here but there's a couple of streets you probably shouldn't do it on but i will help you out so he came to town um you know i was giving him some street names of where i found the trash a lot of it was by coppen
Starting point is 00:35:16 university um and he said okay we're gonna get our team up there he mobilized all those volunteers it was amazing and then you know what was crazy about it the local media the baltimore sun then writes how dare he come pick up the trash yeah crazy that that's that's why when uh when we started this this this show they want to end the nobel prize because trump is nominated it's it's the perfect formula of their strategy so so scott pressler and a a bunch of volunteers and with you are able to actually make this transformation, which is positive for everybody. And I saw the videos he posted. For those that aren't familiar, it's actually that simple. Trump said, what did he say?
Starting point is 00:35:56 It was like a rat-infested asshole or something. A rat-infested, rodent-infested. Did he? Yeah. I think he cussed at it. He might have cursed, yeah. But I think what happened was they dragged Trump for it
Starting point is 00:36:10 but actually someone else had previously said something similar they didn't care about. I think it was Jon Stewart actually. There was like a clip from The Daily Show way back when where he said Baltimore was, you know, just like a... Our own mayor walked through the year previously and said, I can smell the dead rats as she's walking through with press.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Here's what I love, that they wrote a hit piece about a dude who got volunteers to clean up garbage. Yeah. And then all of a sudden we started seeing this narrative that they were just trying to make
Starting point is 00:36:38 Trump look good or something. And I started laughing because I'm like, oh no, you got us. You've tricked us by going out and cleaning up trash. Oh, no, you've made Trump look at you. What? What's what's what's the trick there? Right. You cleaned up trash. OK, we're happy. I don't I don't understand. That's insane to me.
Starting point is 00:36:55 No, it is. And if you if people go back and look at Scott Presser's wardrobe, he wasn't even wearing anything that said Trump. That's what another I mean, he wasn't advertising Trump at all. Yeah, that's what was so crazy about it. He was like him. I really feel like I just got to come pick up the trash. I can't leave kids live there, you know, and that's what all he was trying to do. And he's done it several times.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Oh, yeah. And whenever there's like they always try to push the narrative that his real goal isn't to help anybody. It's to make Trump supporters look good and help Donald Trump. And I'm like, I don't I don't understand how that makes like how is that a smear against him? He's trying to make Trump look good by going around and cleaning up the neighborhood and helping people. Yeah. Is it bad that he's, you know what, man? Look, if Trump was an evil villain and he was like, you know, I'm going to win over the hearts and minds of Americans by helping them get jobs and making the economy better and getting them health care.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Ha ha. That's my evil plan to win. It's like, oh, OK. Helping people. Yeah. That's the weirdest, weirdest thing to me. That's the best way to put it. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:38:03 But isn't that crazy? Yeah, no, it is they literally wrote a hit piece on that yeah i'm impressed i'm impressed here's what i do i definitely want to ask you about some of your policies and stuff like this but i want to show you this graph and i want to ask you about black lives matter so this is the uh overall support versus opposition and uh neither support nor oppose and unsure and uh what i want to do is show net support. So this is where Black Lives Matter stands right now. This is a really interesting thing I noticed that before the George Floyd incident happened,
Starting point is 00:38:33 17% net support for Black Lives Matter. It peaked around 25% when the George Floyd incident happened. Everybody was shocked. I mean, Sean Hannity had come out and said, this is wrong. I can't believe this. I was shocked, yeah. Then they riot and they riot more and they write more and they write more.
Starting point is 00:38:47 And now today, net support is six points lower at 11 percent than where it was before the George Floyd incident. Yeah. So first, I'll just ask you about the riots, because these a lot of people like to say Antifa, right? But I've said no way, man. These people are chanting Black Lives Matter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:06 They're going out in Portland with Molotovs in Seattle. They're doing it in the name of Black Lives Matter. Not Antifa, not, you know, Marxism or whatever, you know, people think. It's literally about police brutality and issues like George Floyd. I'm just curious on your thoughts on that. And then, you know, I got another question for you. Yeah, absolutely. So first of all, I am not a fan of black lives matter you know it's interesting i don't know many uh black americans
Starting point is 00:39:29 that are fans of black lives matter you know very interesting fact there um for me this is a situation where i feel like there's definitely an agenda if you look at it and you know in 2015 after the death of freddie gray we had our riots. I was there. And Adam, you met him earlier. He was there, too. Okay, yes. So you saw it up close and personal. And a lot of people that were arrested were people that didn't even live there.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Right? The bad actors are almost being bussed in, you know, to cause chaos. And then they leave and they go to another city and do the same. And so it's very interesting to me. I don't think it's a real organization. I think it's a front for something else. I'm not going to, again, I'm not into conspiracy theories. I hear the President Trump's administration is investigating it. Really?
Starting point is 00:40:17 Yeah. So I'm interested to see what happens. Because I know that I think they have, what's it called? Is it called like Thousand Currents? Oh, I'm not sure. I'll have to look it up. Yeah, definitely. There's an organization that collects money on their behalf.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Okay. And then it goes through ActBlue. Here's what's fascinating to me. We keep hearing from people like, I think de Blasio said this, I could be wrong, but there's been several organizations saying Black Lives Matter is not a political organization. It's social justice. But their fundraising goes through ActBlue. Sure does, yeah. It's the Democrats fundraising organization. It's social justice. But their fundraising goes through ActBlue. Sure does, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:47 It's the Democrats' fundraising organization. Right, right. So you're going to tell me it's not political? It's literally running money through their fundraising arm. I know a lot of people
Starting point is 00:40:55 have thought there's a bigger conspiracy about people donating to Black Lives Matter and it goes to Biden or something. I don't think that's true because that would be a weird,
Starting point is 00:41:02 that's got to be completely illegal to take donations for Black Lives Matter and then give it to a political candidate. I don't think,'s true because that would be a weird – that's got to be completely illegal to take donations for Black Lives Matter and then give it to a political candidate. I don't think – maybe there's something there. But it definitely seems strange to say the least. I don't know if you knew this, but there was another Black Lives Matter foundation based out of I think California that formed in 2014, and it's very small. And the guys brought in like a couple hundred thousand dollars over the past several years and it was just one black dude who was like i got an idea
Starting point is 00:41:30 i'm gonna run an organization i'm gonna raise money and he said his goal is to bring the police and the communities together so that you know the police can be more familiar with the people who live there and they can know who their police are and he was basically saying you know the proximity and the and you know the the proximity and, you know, the familiarity will help resolve a lot of the tensions. You know, like a cop's less likely to attack somebody if he knows the neighborhood and he might know who that person is. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Probably not going to know everybody. But here's the crazy thing. They went after him. And apparently some activists got, like, an injunction to, like, freeze his donations, GoFundMe or something like that, like like that like seized his like fundraiser and gave it to the other organization yeah that to me was crazy i mean is it because it was also black lives matter and they own that right okay well i don't think they own it because he had it first they just came out and said he's not the real one and he's like but i've had the name first yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:42:21 that's interesting well that's interesting i'll tell you i'll tell you what's interesting you uh you mentioned you don't know anybody any you said you didn't know any black people who supported black lives matter like i don't i don't know yeah i don't take a look at this this is what i wanted to ask you about i find this is this is interesting so this is civics they've got 162,220 responses from april 25th 2017 to september 9th 2020 and they say do you support from right along registered voters black or african-american 88 say they support black lives matter that's interesting yeah and uh then we got five percent oppose so that's interesting i i don't know how i don't know the 88 maybe Maybe it's not real.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yeah. I guess this is what I say and people that I know say. Like you said, it goes through Act Blue, right? The money. Yeah. Has there been any instances where any of that money has actually gone to the black community? I don't think so in terms of anything i've seen in the news or i haven't found anything i've i've tried to do some research well you know what they do because i've
Starting point is 00:43:32 i've this is my insight into all these non-profits it's a very very clever way to claim that all of the money is for charitable causes awareness oh yes oh i love those it's like the big corporations right when you look at apple you look at different organizations. They put a hundred million dollars into inclusive training, right? That whole like, oh, we're going to talk about how to. Meanwhile, you look at how many black people they have in like their top executive positions. Two percent. Two percent. positions, 2%. 2%. So you really care about black lives because you don't hire any black people. You're not employing them. And I'm not saying people should be employed based on their color, but I find that interesting.
Starting point is 00:44:16 There's a lot of corporations that say they have this training and they're raising awareness, but then you look at their executive offices and you don't see any people of color it's it's corporations trying to shield themselves from the latest trend and it's going to backfire on them really really bad there was a post i just saw recently i can't remember who it was from but i think something like the new york times wrote a story saying like we mapped
Starting point is 00:44:40 the most powerful people in the country and it's like 18 percent are non-white. And I think it was the New York Times. And then someone showed that all the top New York Times staff, it's all white people. So they want to act like we're, you know, we're pointing out a serious problem. But don't look where we are. It's seriously the rules for thee, but not for me. It's like everything they do. Yeah. No, seriously.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I was shocked when I saw Twitter. They have their main Twitter support page, right. And it was all blacked out like they're so supportive. But we already knew it was already ousted, I think, a year ago that cancel culture so they're covering their butts but um i don't think they realize people aren't stupid you know we see it so i don't know how we got to this 88 percent but i i better do my due diligence and figure it out you think there's a possibility that you're in a bubble and you're just not yeah around the people that could be you know west baltimore all black no i'm not in a bubble yeah you, you have. Right, right, right. I have to ask, though, you know, because. Yeah, no. You know, I think a lot of these journalists don't realize they're definitely in a bubble.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Oh, my gosh. Yes. Yes. This is. So I get in a fight all the time with, you know, Richard Fowler on Fox News. No, no, no, no. Oh, my gosh. Who is he?
Starting point is 00:46:03 He kills me. So he's a guy um that basically lives at fox news studio right and he likes to come on and tell people he's a black guy about how hard it is to be black in america i'm like dude when is the last time you've ever been in a predominantly black neighborhood he couldn't answer that he could not and supposedly he's from Chicago but not like Chicago Chicago because Giano Caldwell called him out on it and I don't
Starting point is 00:46:31 know what the name of the town was I bet it's Naperville or something he was like like the West Suburbs yeah he was like dude you're not from Chicago don't you you know but it's there is there's a lot of people in the media that lives. And what's his name again?
Starting point is 00:46:47 Richard. Richard Fowler. Yes. I actually was just in a fight with him just last week on Fox News. What do you guys argue about? Well, he was trying to tell me how great Biden was. But it was also telling me how America's policies were so racist. And I'm like, interesting.
Starting point is 00:47:02 So Biden had 50 years to change some of those racist policies but he didn't yeah and he was vice president for obama yeah so tell me tell me again how is he for black people the guy that did the 1994 crime bill yes yeah super yeah he's that guy i couldn't figure out where he was from on a quick glance but uh being from chicago there's always people who say they'll be like oh I'm from Chicago and I'll say oh cool which part well Naperville it's Evanston yes that's it
Starting point is 00:47:30 oh my gosh that's it Evanston look I'm not gonna pretend like Evanston is the wealthiest place in the world but it's I'm pretty sure it's like a north north side and it's it's I'm pretty sure it's like a north north side. And it's nice. Yeah, it's pretty nice.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Yeah. And there are definitely nicer, nicer areas of Chicago for sure. But if you tell someone you're from Evanston, they're going to be like, wow, where did your parents work? Like they must have great jobs. Yeah. They'll be from the south side of Chicago and they'll be like, ah, you know, slinging burgers and working in the coal mines. Yeah. So but I will I will point something out to be fair, although I don't think this impacted him. It's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:48:12 We have this defund the police narrative. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was asked about what she envisions this will look like if you defund the police. And she says the suburbs. It's really funny when first just to provide a critique on that well the suburbs aren't as densely populated as the cities so you have less people per square mile so sure you'll need less police it just makes sense and uh but more to the point to be fair uh people from the poor areas actually go to the go to the north side and go to the wealthier areas to to commit crimes because you can't rob poor people right but you do have more violent crime in the poor areas because of the conflict between people right so if you if you live in a place like evanston i don't think you're really
Starting point is 00:48:55 in a position to criticize someone about living in a hard area and yeah yeah to be fair too i was reading a tweet from uh it was a woman. She was white and she was talking about misconceptions around crime. And for people who grow up in places like I actually I'll ask you how your feelings on this in a second. I grew up on the southwest side. It was kind of bad, not the worst, because there's other parts of the south side and the west side that are way worse. But there were shootings, there were drug overdosesoses and stuff and it was normal to us so when when when gangbangers would pull up and start firing guns or when fights would break out people were armed we were kind of just like this is normal life where we are and then when you tell that to other people they're shocked to hear it and they're scared of it not realizing that it's not like every day someone comes out
Starting point is 00:49:40 with a gun that's firing in the air right Right. But you hear gunshots at night, you know, periodically. So I'm wondering, you know, is it similar being in West Baltimore with the normalization of potential violence and things like that? It's very similar. It's to the point where shots are fired and nobody even turns around. You know what I mean? No one turns around. But a lot of people understand, and this is what I come to understand. Just so you know, I've been spending a lot of time on the streets because I want to truly understand from their point of view.
Starting point is 00:50:13 But people will say, we know it's usually a retaliation situation. And if I'm not in it, usually that bullet's for someone else, right? And I think it's sad that you know that is the norm you know to walk up and down the streets and to see all the needles to see just everything out there and to them it's normal kids walking past it to school normal day just walking up the street and so that's what it becomes like the quality of life becomes normalized and it's getting worse and worse and so when you're pointing out the trash, you know, you got some people that were saying, well, how dare you point out those streets? We know they're filled with trash. We're used to that. You know, it's like,
Starting point is 00:50:53 you know, you don't have to live this way, right? You know, it shouldn't be like this. You know, there shouldn't be 17,000 vacant homes just sitting there. I mean, it's insane to me, but I understand it because like you said, it's normal everyday life. Did Elijah Cummings live in the district? Supposedly he did. So this is the crazy part about the district. There's Howard County, Baltimore County, and then West Baltimore. Howard County is a very wealthy area, right? And then you have Baltimore County, you go up up north it goes all the way up to the Pennsylvania line again very wealthy so when this was redistricted in 2013 it looked as if he was doing great because you had these wealthy areas attached to West Baltimore and then he could live
Starting point is 00:51:38 in the wealthy area away from exactly and so when people get on me and they're like well she doesn't exactly live there and I'm thinking yeah I could live in a mansion over in parkton if you want you know or i could spend a lot of time in west baltimore trying to understand the issues you know what would you like to come at me with you know what i learned about uh chicago one of the one of the problems with solving the problem one of the one of the problems in solving the problems is that if the people who live there are not receiving any kind of support from their locals and they're just going about their lives and there's trash everywhere and there's violence. What I hear from people outside saying, we're going to solve this problem. And you ask them, do you do you know why there's violence in Chicago? And I don't want to put you on the spot, but I'm curious what your thoughts are not living in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Do you know what the cause of you've heard about about Chicago gun violence and they call it Chirac. Do you know what causes the violence? I would think everything around it, right? The education system, the lack of opportunity. That is the best answer I've heard so far because it is – so people always say gangs. Oh, yeah. It's not true. They just jump right up to the – okay, yeah. They think that gangs are fighting over tear, yeah. It's not true. They just jump right up to the gang.
Starting point is 00:52:46 They think that gangs are fighting over terror and stuff, and it's not. Right. It really does have to do with the living conditions, the standard of living, the culture, the education. And a lot of – so I went on – I went what's called night crawling. So a local journalist, we met up at like 2 in the morning or whatever. This sounds so fun already. Oh, i don't know if you want to be a journalist tracking murders and stuff and like reporting on this stuff yeah so it takes a strong stomach i'll tell you what and it's it's it's it you're you need a strong heart and a strong stomach to see some of these things but some of
Starting point is 00:53:19 the stories that we we went to it was uh in one instance somebody had a personal argument on social media and so they drove up and started shooting into a building they thought belonged to the person and it didn't and two people were killed another story uh another uh shooting we found was a guy was gunned down on the sidewalk because he was smack talking the other guy on social media i kid you not so it turned out a lot of these killings were basically just people had beef. And they, for whatever reason, they were like, the solution to my problems, if you talk smack to me, I kill you. So it really does not have a lot to do with gangs.
Starting point is 00:53:57 And if you don't understand the community, the culture, and how to solve those problems, because you're just assuming there's like some some uh buzzword that can be the easy it's it's like they think there's an easy easy solution where it's like if i just take this one piece out of the puzzle then the problem's solved not realizing it's systemic right it's education it's a lack of leadership yep and i believe a lot of it has to do with what we're talking about earlier when there's one party rule there's no competition yeah no one has to come in and say, here's my proposal. And when the locals try, they're completely ignored. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:31 I wonder, you know, and when I hear about, when I asked about Elijah living in the district, do you think that they gerrymandered on purpose so that they can live in a wealthy, clean area and then represent and ignore? It was that. And then also, so you have to understand also, in Baltimore City, we have 13 high schools
Starting point is 00:54:49 where kids graduate unable to do basic math or read or write, right? And so a lot of those schools are in the West Baltimore area. But if you put those on with the schools in Howard County, which are great, right? And in Baltimore County, Sparks, all that, then it doesn't look like the schools are that bad right so it was literally like they were just making sure like okay yeah we got this problem but you know put the good areas over it hopefully nobody sees it
Starting point is 00:55:16 averages out exactly and that's what it was about and that's what it was about and so um governor martin o'malley actually admitted to redistricting some areas to do that. And so now, yeah, they're going to look at drawing the lines. But this is why chipping away is so important. Because if they redistrict and you've been chipping away in some of these areas and it actually makes sense, like, OK, Howard County and Baltimore County, they have a lot more in common than anybody in West Baltimore. When they redistrict, chipping away might equal in a republican win you know and so it's like but if we don't chip away again we're just not in the running so it's just and just to clarify the idea of chipping away it's just trying to build up as much support for
Starting point is 00:56:00 the republicans slowly even if it's a little bit. Yes. And then it takes work. I know a lot of people don't, you know, I understand politics. Not everybody in government wants to work. But it does. It takes grassroots efforts. It takes you getting out there and working every single day. So let's talk about your campaign. Yes. You became a Republican, you said, in 2009.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yes. What about the Republican Party did you feel like was a better fit for you? I think just the whole aspect of personal responsibility. Like, that's how I was raised. My father was a disciplinarian. But he also says when you take personal responsibility, he says, Kim, this is the greatest country in the world, right? People are coming here because of the opportunities here
Starting point is 00:56:47 yeah when you look at and this is one of my things about black lives matter but i won't go off on attention when you look at african immigrants that come to this country right they are black right by all appearances there's a lot of them that are very black right and you're telling me black lives matter people are saying you're being pulled over because you're black you're being stopped because you're black i have yet to see a hashtag nigerian name or hashtag name from like ghana cameroon right you don't see names like that hashtagged but they're by all appearances black so obviously that doesn't did you did you see that that nba story where they were they they were striking over the jacob blake thing yahoo yahoo sports included this passage where they said some nba players have taken to purchasing teslas because they
Starting point is 00:57:38 believe cops won't expect a black man to be driving a tesla and it was the most ridiculous thing i heard because i'm like dude just wanted to buy a tesla right i don't think the cops are like a tesla oh it's probably a white guy driving that car right so he's breaking the law yeah i'll leave him alone yeah in the middle of the hood tesla actually i had a uh an interesting experience when i was like uh i think i was like 19 i met a guy from haiti I worked with him at O'Hare Airport. And I didn't know him very well. But he said he didn't like how in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:58:10 they try and do all of these politically correct terms for people like Asian American, African American. And he was like, I'm from Haiti. He's like, I'm not an African American. I'm Haitian. Like, don't call me that. Yeah. It's very weird how I think a lot of I you know what, man, it's been more and
Starting point is 00:58:28 more ever since, especially with Black Lives Matter, that I've started to feel like a lot of the racism we see is actually driven by the Democrats and the progressive left. Absolutely. I know it's kind of cliche to say to someone who's a Republican and been a Republican for a long time. But here I am being like, hey, wait a minute. They're the ones saying things like voter ID is racist. Right. But actually, yeah, let's let's do this. Let me ask your question, your thoughts on voter ID. What do you think? So this is my my
Starting point is 00:58:55 idea. So you're saying because I'm black, I can't get an ID to go vote. If that is what you're saying that is racist to say okay so you're basically saying that black people don't get their driver's license don't have a state id aren't smart enough to do it aren't smart enough to bring it uh to go vote no almost for almost everything you need an id right this is again just like we see with the mail in voting. Right. Like I said, all the balance. It's about, you know, a way they can be fraudulent in the process. It has nothing to do. But they love to use us as like this. Oh, wait a minute. Let's think about the blacks. Can they can they rise to the occasion? I don't know. Let's put the brakes on this. But, you know, but it's always, and I hate to say it, but it's a lot of times it's white officials that are saying that blacks can't handle it. You know, when do we get the microphone and tell you what we can handle?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Did you see that Ami Horowitz video? I did not. He went to Berkeley and he asked a bunch of white college students how do they feel about voter ID? And they all said it's racist. I saw this video. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Yes, I did. And it is one of the funniest videos for me. Again, like I didn't I didn't grow up in a black area. I grew up in a relatively mixed poor area, but it still kind of resonated to me to see regular people understanding. I'll put it this way. I hate elitism. And this progressive racism is like the epitome of ivory tower elites.
Starting point is 01:00:31 They think they're better. If you look at the data, these progressives tend to be wealthy, college-educated white people. Yes. And they think they're smarter than everybody. And they think they're the saviors of all these poor races.
Starting point is 01:00:42 But in reality, that mentality is them thinking they're superior to other races. So when I see that video and my favorite part of it is when Ami Horowitz asks this like middle-aged black dude, you know where the DMV is at? He goes, oh, yeah, it's over on 25th Street. As if he's giving directions, like, of course, he knows where the DMV is. Yeah. Do you know anybody who doesn't have an ID?
Starting point is 01:01:02 I don't. But this is, you know, I don't know if a lot of people have seen that video of Candace Owens in front of Congress. And I think Jim Jordan was asking questions and there were three white women telling her how oppressed black people are. I remember that. Yes. She had on the blue blazer and she's like, that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:01:22 I've been black my entire life and I am not feeling oppressed today today but i'm so glad these three white women are telling me this isn't isn't candace kind of like isn't she rich like i'm assuming she's very successful yeah i mean i would think so um you know i even if she isn't rich she's not oppressed right yeah and you know it's amazing to me but again this is what we see all the time you know people actually look at the crowd and some of these black lives matter um protests or riots a lot of times it's white people yeah oh totally with the black lives matter shirts on and i'm like well where are the black people you know i heard a story out of i think it was portland where a woman was like yelling at protesters.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Where are the black people at? Because it was a bunch of white people riding and acting a fool. And she was like, what is this? Like, what are you people doing? There's you're not there. There's actually a bunch of videos like this, though. There's one video where black women stop Antifa from trying to graffiti and start fires. And it's crazy. In one of them, there's like this white woman spray painting and two black women are like, stop bringing that stuff to our neighborhood. And the white women actually say to the black woman,
Starting point is 01:02:31 no, no, it's okay. We're helping you. And we're like, we're fighting for you. And it's like, dude, you're destroying their neighborhood. You're not helping them at all. Right. It is, it is this.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I bring this up a lot. I have to though. But you know about what's going on with repeal prop 209 in California? Somewhat. It's the Democrats wanting to repeal the civil rights provisions in their constitution. Am I just naive? Or is the Democrats opposing civil rights and they're pushing racist policies?
Starting point is 01:03:01 And they think many of them, not all all of them but they think they're superior and they're the saviors and all that stuff yeah no you're absolutely right if you take a good look at and this is why i think we're always being divided into these little boxes you know like he was your friend was saying the asian americans the african americans even though he was haitian it's almost as if we're now pushing segregation. I think we definitely are. And it's like, what are we doing? What are we doing? We're rolling back so much of what we fought for.
Starting point is 01:03:34 And if civil rights leaders were alive today, like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., who was telling people, don't judge me based on my color of my skin, but the content of my character, that's the opposite of what we're doing today. Have you seen that book from Ibrahim? Ibrahim x can be is it abraham or ibrahim i-b-r-a-m ibrahim uh have you heard of it have you heard of him he's got one of the top books in uh anti-racism there's a book he wrote called how to be anti-racist okay there's a passage that that says the only he said something like if discrimination is creating race equity, then it is racist. If it's creating it or if it's creating inequity, it's racist. If it's creating equity, it's anti-racist. Therefore, the only solution to pass discrimination is present discrimination. And the only solution to present discrimination is future discrimination. White literally saying we must discriminate based on race.
Starting point is 01:04:27 So when I see that that book is a top, is a bestseller, and then you look at like white fragility and there's many other books in a similar vein. And it's not just white people who write it. It's also black people. It's also, you know, it's people of all races. You see Oprah Winfrey pics. I mean, they're straight up saying we got to be racist. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:44 But they're trying to change the definition of racist so that they like, I guess it seems like at certain points, these people realized we don't like racism. We want to be just friends and hang out and break bread and, you know, stand by the water cooler talking about what we like. And they realized that if they were going to bring back segregation and discrimination, they had to alter the definition of racism. And so that's what they've done. Yeah. Now it means prejudice plus power and you have to have institutional authority or something like that. So now when they write books, quite literally saying that, for one, they are avowed racists, like you've heard of white fragility. The woman straight up says she's uncomfortable, like if she walked into a room full of black people.
Starting point is 01:05:24 That's crazy to me. Right. And then she's going to start essentially lecturing everyone else on what on their behavior and people adopt this so for me having grown up uh i'll put it this way i grew up pretty lefty when i was younger became kind of just like around the obama time i was like more of a moderate still kind of progressive and uh voted for obama the first time and i'll tell you for me what when i snapped it was like more of a moderate, still kind of progressive and voted for Obama the first time. And I'll tell you for me, when I snapped, it was like literally a month later when he drone bombed a village of women and children. And I was like, yeah, like so much for that, I guess. And I tried to be optimistic, like maybe he's got to wind things down because he just came in.
Starting point is 01:06:00 And no, no, no. So for me, that was like i'm out but i think there's a lot of people who have always been outside of the democratic party and have viewed them as always racist because their history was racist yeah and so i don't i don't i don't know what happened in that period after civil rights up until whatever's going on now but it definitely feels like they're going backwards they're rewinding the clock towards segregation. We just had that story out of a university of Michigan, Dearborn,
Starting point is 01:06:28 where they created a non POC cafe, which was a, you stop knocking, not kidding, not kidding. We're joking. They apologize. They,
Starting point is 01:06:37 they didn't, they, they, they, they fake apologize for it. Like they have. So basically they did a POC cafe. They're not physical spaces.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Okay. First clarify. Okay. They were like were like digital uh digital round tables and they had one just for they said non-poc i think we know what that means the white people and they said it's facilitated by a white person for it's facilitated by non-poc with non-poc to talk about their non-POC feelings and community. And then they had the POC one. And I'm just like, yo. Right? Is that where we're going? So wait, so when did they meet and hear about each other's feelings?
Starting point is 01:07:14 I don't know if it happened. They issued an apology for the terminology they used. They said, we're so sorry about the terms we used to describe our quote-unquote cafe. It's not even a productive situation. Seriously not. I mean, this is awful and you know what really kills me i love when um liberals get really upset when they say oh someone's racist and then that said person is racist that they're claiming is racist then says well i'm not racist i have black friends and they're saying oh that's such a racist thing to say i'm like no it's not okay racists don't have black friends right like they don't they don't and so you know it's now it's like just attack everybody and anybody that is not a person of color and tell them
Starting point is 01:07:59 basically they are racist and they harbor these interracist feelings. And now they're just now coming out because President Trump is now the president. Yeah. What is Candace Owens said that that makes her a white supremacist in their eyes? I don't know. Not I mean, look, even even if like I can't I can't even say it. She doesn't talk about anything pertaining to white people in that in that regard like she's not talking she talks about responsibility conservatism the black family right i'm like what where where it where in that is race where in that is her supporting whiteness
Starting point is 01:08:35 or whatever yeah i guess when you look at the the weird definitions if you if you've seen like there was something um it was in the smithsonian what was it it was like the the um national museum of african-american history or something okay have you seen this chart where they explain what whiteness is i think i did see this yes man truly amazing this is this is really a huge smack in the face for me being like i i can still i still consider myself to be liberal i just don't think the democratic party represents what i you know what i look for anymore it says it said hard work is white is a white a trait of whiteness oh yeah oh i saw that are you nuts yes and then being on time wasn't that a thing yes being on yes
Starting point is 01:09:16 being on time it's like wow i mean it's it's sad i don't know where we're going but you know this is why i'm glad i'm running for office and uh I hope more people that feel like we're going in a dangerous situation run for office as well I always consider myself because I've had a nonprofit for eight years fiscally conservative socially liberal yeah how do you so can you tell me a little bit about your nonprofit about your efforts there because that was really interesting to me. Thank you. So I started it. Basically, I was working at a hotel in Georgetown University Hotel and Conference Center. I moved to Baltimore about 10 years ago when I met my husband right
Starting point is 01:09:57 now at that point, fiance. And the commute was a long commute, two hours one way. He's like, just stay home, you know. But, you know, you can only do so many loads of laundry where you're just like, okay, you know, I'm smarter than this. You know, not to say it's a bad thing, but I wasn't even taking care of any kids. I was just sitting there at home. So I wanted to start a nonprofit to help young women that might have had traumatic life experiences but were overcoming and doing well. Very good. And so I decided to help these young women with prom. And these are girls that basically had good grades,
Starting point is 01:10:32 had a plan after high school, whether it was college or going straight to work, you know, that couldn't afford prom. And so I would collect prom dresses. I took all these prom dresses into this high school. And the girls are like looking at the dresses and they're like, oh my God. And I'm like, yes, I got so many, right? They're like, no, are these from 1982? Where did you get these dresses? And I'm like, okay, you've got a point there. So we actually took those dresses. We sold them on eBay. And with that money, we actually
Starting point is 01:11:02 bought them dresses. And then we were able to spend money on their hair and their makeup. And they had like these whole makeovers and it was awesome. But when I went to one of the prom send off parties, one of the moms came to me and she was like, you know, I wish I could offer you something to eat. You know, she's like, you come and sit down in their living room. There was like lawn chairs for their furniture. And, you know, I know this young woman would tell me all the time how their electricity was on and off and she was sometimes doing her homework by candlelight yes and so I'm talking to the mom and she was like I would love to go back to work I just don't know how to do it and then a light bulb comes on right and you're like oh
Starting point is 01:11:40 wait a minute Kim if you get parents you know to work, of course they can afford prom and everything else. So I totally switched gears after the first year. And I started helping women coming out of incarceration, rehabilitation, and homelessness through nonprofits that already existed. Their employment specialist would call us and say, hey, can you get her ready for a job interview by Tuesday? And so we were still collecting these donated clothing and then just selling them on eBay and we would give them entire makeovers.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Wow. That's so neat. You said wow a lot this episode. Over 200 women become gainfully employed. 30% went on to be financially independent. But that's, to me, the only way you're going to lift anyone out of poverty is with employment.
Starting point is 01:12:21 And so I think people need to understand that. And that's why that's a major part of my platform is with employment. And so I think people need to understand that, you know, and, um, you know, that's why that's, you know, a major part of my platform is people becoming independent. So to me, that's like, that's really unusual because it's so consistent between what you say about wanting people to take personal responsibility and you're, you know, you're nonprofit and getting these girls to take responsibility and rewarding them for doing so. And then doing the same with women who wanted to go back to work i think that's a wonderful thread to carry through thank you thank you it's it's and it's so simple right so we didn't get any funding we didn't get any grant money we didn't get anything yeah um we were just like
Starting point is 01:12:57 all right how do we make money ebay you know yeah you know and it's just literally just taking a regular idea and saying, all right, this is how we got to, you know, tackle the issue. But this is what's crazy about it. Like, I'm a college dropout myself. I didn't finish. It wasn't for me. I dropped out.
Starting point is 01:13:14 But here we have these politicians that with all these degrees, and they supposedly know all this stuff, right, and they could come up with these innovative ideas. Yet no one seems to be able to tackle this situation that we see in the inner cities and it's like well are you really the smart guy i think you're smart enough to do it you just don't want to do it and that's where i have the issue dependency yeah if you had a bunch of free thinking independent people they wouldn't want to vote for you and they want guaranteed votes if you were stuck stuck on benefits, and I know people who
Starting point is 01:13:46 have gone through this where it's very difficult to get off the cycle, then you're going to keep voting for the person who says, don't worry, I'll keep it coming. Right. That's a bummer. It is a bummer. And this is why, you know, I really started doing some research and I don't know if people are familiar with Deron Smithith he works with the trump administration he helped with prison reform and the first step act and you know everyone says oh he's that one black guy that works at the white house in the west wing and it's like he's not the only black guy he's just like the one with the biggest position over there but you know he talks about how you know you've got section eight right section eight housing vouchers uh with those vouchers um it came with basically having the man leave the home
Starting point is 01:14:28 so the women could get them. And that's still how it is today. That's awful. But then, you know, he said, I started thinking, like, you know, if you've got Section 8, is there a Section 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7? And so he looked it up, and, you know, we're looking at it. Section 3 says the same thing as section eight but the dad can stay in the home wow that's crazy so why on earth and this is one of those things i
Starting point is 01:14:52 talked about with richard fowler if you could change the policies right to make things a little bit better in the black community like joe biden supposedly wants to do 50 years later why not replace section 8 with Section 3? If that's where you want people to be dependent. And then to me, that brings in what? Two incomes in the household. You know, then you're weaning people off of it. The father's still in the home. You've got the family structure piece.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Why did we go with Section 8 over Section 3? Do you see the Black Lives Matter mission statement? How they want to dismantle the family? Disrupt the nuclear family structure or something to that effect. Yeah. Why would they want to do that? We've looked at a bunch of studies, and right now some of the data I've read says they don't know necessarily if it's a father and a mother or just two parents in general.
Starting point is 01:15:43 It might just be as simple as two parents because you have double income and you have someone to be with the kid. And, you know, but regardless, the data shows that two parents, a traditional family structure or however, as long as it ends up with the parents, you know, being able to raise the kid, they they prosper. Right. And in single parent households, they struggle. Right. Or they're more likely to, I should say, not not not a guarantee. Right. Why would you more likely to, I should say. Not a guarantee. Right. Why would you actively try to encourage that? Right. The only thing I can think of is there aren't actually black people writing the mission
Starting point is 01:16:13 statement for Black Lives Matter. I wouldn't be surprised. That's the only thing I can think of. Because if you are black, you know, what is it? About 70% black children are living in a single mother household. We know which friends became successful and which ones didn't. And we know what their childhood was like. That's not news to us.
Starting point is 01:16:34 They do have that data down, right? But we know that just based on how we grew up and who we grew up around. So it makes no sense. So let's go to some policy stuff. You've got policies on your site. What do you want to do? First of all, what's your pipe dream? What's your pie in the sky?
Starting point is 01:16:49 When you get elected, you've got some things you want to do? Absolutely. So first and foremost, like I said, I talk about employment, right? But not just jobs, right? We're always talking about raising a minimum wage. What about careers, right? Some real good salaries with benefits. As we saw with the lockdown, we relied on other countries for PPE. Why not bring that billion-dollar medical equipment
Starting point is 01:17:12 industry right back to America, right? That would bring back this, you know, we were a manufacturing powerhouse at one point in Baltimore. We have the second largest, busiest port at one point right there in Baltimore City, right? Our port is the same size as a port in Connecticut, where they've got the submarines, you know, they've got the windmills, all the jobs, right? They've got so much going on there. We have the same exact size, and we've got, what, two cruise ships coming in a week, going back out. We're not utilizing it all. So this is what I talk about a lot. This is what I talk about with Duran over at the White House.
Starting point is 01:17:51 And this is why President Trump tweeted, you know, Kimberly Klasick will bring it back and bring it back fast because he knows that we've been having these conversations. Opportunity zones, a big deal the Trump administration the past four years has taken 75 billion and invested in opportunity zones in these democrat cities that have been just left neglected what's interesting about it is when you look at the opportunity zone map in Baltimore City you will see that the neighborhoods that I was walking in in my video sandtown Easterwood Carrollton Ridge those areas were left out of the map and was interesting about is my opponent writes this op-ed saying it was President Trump but he did not he didn't do the Opportunity Zone map that was left up to local leaders right but but people believe that because they
Starting point is 01:18:41 don't do their research and see you know who wrote this map and so anyway so I actually took some community leaders in January down to the White House to meet with Duran and talk about what they can do. And I posted that picture not too long ago. You know, we had something back in the day. I think it was called Empowerment Zones, which is similar. And I actually got a lot of crap from some Republicans on Twitter because I said, you know We had something similar. It didn't really work because we gave local leaders way too much power and control I said if we do Opportunity zones right in Baltimore City
Starting point is 01:19:14 We're gonna have to do a carve-out because our local officials are way too corrupt and we're gonna be the same situation Just because I said I like Trump's opportunity zones, but I'm going to request a carve out. I got a phone call from black voices from Trump. And they said, how dare you say that? It's like, dude, what? No, look at Baltimore. Look at our history. Bill Clinton did the same thing with empowerment zones.
Starting point is 01:19:41 It didn't work. Local officials got involved. Right. So anyways, they weren't happy about that. But I did go down and I talked to Daron about it. with empowerment zones. It didn't work. Local officials got involved, right? So anyways, they weren't happy about that. But I did go down and I talked to Daron about it. You know, we were looking at it and he goes, you know what, you're right.
Starting point is 01:19:52 You're right. There needs to be a carve out or we need to change the structure here. So that's my big push. As we know, there is a trucker shortage across this country. I know, you know, eventually, you know, technology will probably give us what? Trucks that drive themselves, the drones are dropping off boxes.
Starting point is 01:20:11 But we're not at that point yet. And we have a lot of people in the area that could benefit from going to that CDL six-week program to get their license. That'd be great. Yeah. And we, you know, the six weeks two thousand dollars per person we are supposed to get 1.1 billion dollars a year i don't know where it is someone's pockets are lined with gold exactly but you know when i talk to people in the area they say you
Starting point is 01:20:38 know that would be great we would love to do something like that and that's an easy class there's uh non-profits maryland new directions there's all these people that actually do the We would love to do something like that. And that's an easy class. There's nonprofits, Maryland New Directions. There's all these people that actually do the behind-the-wheel training, all states involved in it. Six weeks. Six weeks we can get someone, you know, these trucker positions. You know, we've got Amazon right there in Baltimore too. And, you know, I would hope that we would offer them more warehouse spaces
Starting point is 01:21:01 that we could actually do this. Even if we get these self-driving trucks, we need local drivers because the self-driving trucks stop outside the cities and then you need a driver to bring them in. Right. So that would be huge. That's a good point there, Tim. And then, of course, education.
Starting point is 01:21:17 I'm talking about school choice. So this is the easiest way I've been able to explain it where people are able to digest it. I say, look, you know your schools are not that great in this area, right? Sometimes schools need a little competition, right? We do have some charter schools and they do great. But I say, just think, if you say, you know, your kid has always wanted to run track and you think they'll be really good at it,
Starting point is 01:21:43 just think if you could send your child to a school with an actual track team. Just think if you could send your child to a school with a golf team or a swim team and you know that they would excel at this. And they're like, yes, I want that opportunity for my child. I mean, look at the way the college system is set up with minority scholarships. You my stepson he wanted to play golf um you know like yes go play right you know here is a black american wanting to play golf and he was good you know go get those offers go get the scholarships those opportunities exist they're already there um so there's things that you can do and that's how i i really explain um school choice i mean we gotta do something with education system anyways um baltimore city uh ceo the public school ceo sonia satchelis makes
Starting point is 01:22:31 350 000 a year and we've got so many kids exactly oh my gosh exactly a lot of money you know the administrators make a ton of money yet the kids still graduate i'm able to read write or do basic math so that's a problem and then i have i have this idea all right here we go here we go all right hopefully you know everybody be kind your listeners there of course so i've been spending a lot of time on the streets right and i came up with this idea called survivor to investor and i've actually proposed this to duron smith the white house and other people and survivor to investor uh is basically talking about all right you know you know you're from chicago you've got the corner boys and then you got the shooters two totally different people right the corner boys are usually corner boys because that's how they got to make money well so what's a corner boy oh the
Starting point is 01:23:31 corner boy is the kid standing on the corner selling drugs he's not you know shooting up you know he's not he's not the gang banger that people like to talk about. He's literally maybe selling marijuana on the corner, and he's got five siblings at home, and mom hasn't been home in a week, but somebody's got to feed these kids. Those are the corner boys, right? It happens all the time. We've got squeegee kids.
Starting point is 01:23:59 I don't know if you have squeegee kids. Chicago also has the fundraising for jerseys, which they're not really doing. Do you guys have that in Baltimore where they'll go around and say like, hey, I'm fundraising for school uniforms? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. And they're really just selling candy.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Right, they got the candy, yes. I feel so bad for them, yes. I kind of don't feel bad because these are entrepreneurial kids. They went out and bought a bunch of candy. No, I do, but I just feel bad that this is their situation. Yeah, yeah, no, I do, but I just feel bad that this is their situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:27 I do. I feel bad. Okay, so survivor to investor. So basically, we always talk about amnesty for illegal immigrants, right? Hear me out here. Controversial, I guess. It is a little edgy. I talk to a lot of quarter boys, or or those are a little bit above the corner boys.
Starting point is 01:24:46 But again, they're not the ones with the violent criminal activity. They're not, you know, the ones with the background in history. I talked to this guy. His name is Roe. And he goes, Kim, I would love to get involved in real estate. And I was like, well, considering there's 17,000 vacant Ro row homes in your neighborhood, that's an awesome idea. So we go to his car and he like pops open the trunk. It's got a bunch of cash.
Starting point is 01:25:12 And I'm like, oh, boy. Yeah. Okay. First, you know, I didn't see this. Second, I'm like, why don't you don't have a bank account? Like, what's going on? He goes, no, I can't put this in the bank. You know, I don't trust anybody.
Starting point is 01:25:27 So I just ride around with it. So I'm looking in the trunk and I'm like, dude, you you have enough to buy probably a whole block here. Wow. Right. Because a lot of these row homes, they've been vacant so long. They're maybe what, three thousand dollars to buy. So I'm like, all right, now what? Now what? I'm thinking, I'm thinking. I was like, all right, what if for 365 days we had amnesty for the corner boy? What if for a year we didn't ask him where the money came from? We allowed them to invest in the property, put those homes in a program that put people on a pathway to home ownership?
Starting point is 01:26:08 What if they turn those stash houses where they're stashing the money and they invested those same dollars into that home? And we only did it for 365 days because at some point we want them off the streets, right? Or else they'll just keep flipping it. And so I say, what if we provide amnesty for the corner boy? This is a really interesting idea. I do think there's a potential shortfall in what if they say they're a corner boy just selling pot or something. And so this is different, right?
Starting point is 01:26:40 So then, and this is why I bring Jerron in, who's like a great policy advisor, and he would help me write it up. And he said, I think there's write it up and he said i think there's a way to work it i think there's a way to work it because you might have someone who's actually doing something else yes absolutely yeah just trying absolutely so so i actually i i tweeted something out saying do you think trump should pardon all non-violent marijuana offenders at the federal level and then, you know, do an executive order essentially legalizing marijuana. It wouldn't literally. It would just like, you know, he could instruct the feds to ignore it or something. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:12 And almost everybody said yes, but some people may have taken a plea deal. So their charges got reduced. They may have been a violent offender. Right. But it's similar in that regard because I'm straight up like I think Trump should just take a big old stack of nonviolent offenders for pot charges after they've reviewed so that these are not, you know, like people who pled down from violent offenders and just start rubber stamping pardons. Just like, yeah, like get these people out of prison for this nonviolent, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:40 stuff because they wanted to smoke a plant. We're already seeing this stuff recreationally, legally across the country. So it's similar in that regard. Yours is a little different. But just to kind of, you know, graduate from that point, how do you feel about the idea of pardoning nonviolent drug offenders? I'm for it. I'm for it.
Starting point is 01:27:58 You know, this was so crazy about Baltimore. And, you know, you look at, you know, 1987, 1996, when my opponent was in office. This is when they were actually criminalizing those that were addicted to crack right drug addiction to me is you know it's a disease you know it's when you talk to people and this is what's so interesting and I found out learning you know through my non-profit when I talked to the women that were incarcerated I would say 95% of those women were incarcerated because they were dealing with some guy that what they were helping you know commit a crime yeah it's usually not the woman at all you know she had low self-esteem
Starting point is 01:28:39 didn't understand her self-worth didn't know that she should have been a confident woman and not in that relationship, you know, and that all stems back from the childhood. That's a cultural thing. Yeah. And so, you know, what we're doing is we're throwing this blanket constantly over everyone. And we really got to like, you know, roll our sleeves up and figure out these situations because everybody's experience is different. You know, when people tell me, oh, cops are racist and da da da, they might have had an experience with racist cops. I can't take that away from them.
Starting point is 01:29:09 Yeah. You know? But that's what we have to understand about each other. And like you said, I think young people do. Yeah. I think young people do. But I don't think we can wait until it's just young people, you know, as the generation on top here. I think, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:28 we have to get everybody on board and understanding. Yeah. You have any foreign policy thoughts? This is usually a tough one for a lot of people because I think it's important. A lot of people are focused on our own communities. Yeah. And it's one of the reasons I take foreign policies so seriously. You know, when I hear about what's going on in flint and then hear about the amount of money we've spent overseas most people can't tell you what we've done with it right yeah so i'm i don't mean to put you on the spot but i'm curious just your thoughts in general not if you have something specific or just you know generally thoughts well i support trump uh not supporting war. You know, as we say, it's usually the civilians that get hurt the most. Yep.
Starting point is 01:30:10 You know, I guess I say, you know, think about if it was you living in this country, your family living in this country. Right. And here you got bombs coming down on you because of some war, because something that might have happened over here. You know what I mean? These kids don't understand any of that stuff and i don't expect them to um you know i read a little bit about uh i guess it was marco rubio and ted cruz talking about you know not supporting any lebanese government that uh was dealing with hezbollah you know there's there's certain actions i think we can take uh without hurting civilians or hurting
Starting point is 01:30:46 anyone you know definitely i uh notably uh in regards to what you said about the kids not understanding the bombs coming down the cia is referred to this as blowback we we we take issue with a certain faction or whatever we send drones kids get hurt they grow up and become enemies of of the united states and then we end up with know, a lot of the problems we see, particularly in Europe, was these foreign wars. The destabilization resulted in refugees. And then you get a European refugee crisis. It's substantially more complicated than that. The simplest way I can put it as to why i wish you know more people were in like
Starting point is 01:31:26 actually let me stop there and say this donald trump bringing our troops back negotiating these peace deals why don't i see every progressives out there out there cheering for trump right now yeah because they hate him so much and unfortunately i think it's because they believe a lot of this fake news yeah trump's got his problems. I was reading something. It was really funny. They said Trump is like the epitome of character defect of a president. But if he's doing the things that are right, that are going to end these wars, bring about peace, then we have to recognize even if you don't like Trump and you think he might be
Starting point is 01:31:58 bad for the US, you have to you can objectively state the peace agreements in the Middle East that he's accomplished are going to be good for everybody. So can't you accept that? And I look at it like, OK, even if you think Trump is like a really bad president, you got to admit these peace deals are good. And getting our troops out of these other places is a good thing for the rest of the planet. I think it's good for us and, you know, across the board. But even it's it's it's too impossible for a lot of these people to accept Trump is doing something good. So he does it. They offer him, you know, he gets nominated for a peace prize. They to accept trump is doing something good so he does it
Starting point is 01:32:25 the offer you know he gets nominated for a peace prize to say and the peace prize don't give it to him he doesn't know we shouldn't have it and it's just yeah oh man no it's sad it's sad and this is basically what we're talking about is common sense and logic um but we we seem to lost a little bit of that and of course with the fake news aspect know, if you if you were sitting around listening to fake news all day, you know, you might believe it. Right. You'll believe it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:52 And so it's I know it sounds, you know, sad, but, you know, the media has a lot, a lot to play in this. And I remember a lot. Yeah. Trump's running against the media. Exactly. Joe Biden running against the media. Exactly. Joe Biden's in the basement. When Joe Biden can't finish a sentence, then I understand why the media does this,
Starting point is 01:33:12 right? Joe Biden will say something that's nonsensical and you can kind of given the benefit of the doubt on what he's trying to say. But when the media writes it up, they cut out the ums and ahs and gaffes and string the sentence together perfectly. So if you're just reading the quote, Joe Biden says, it's about time we bring our factories back and build back better. And you're like, I get that. When you listen to him, it's yo, we got to bring back the, you know, the factory and you're like,
Starting point is 01:33:39 but the media will write it out perfectly. Whenever I see these stories, I get mad. I'm like, dude, he said, you know, um, come on, like three times in that sentence. You can't just cut that out and call it a quote. Right. You know, because you're paraphrasing. Right. But it's the media that's crafting the narrative. And so it's Trump versus the media.
Starting point is 01:33:57 And this election, it's a referendum on Trump. It is. It is. And, you know, even though I'm nowhere near, you know, what Trump is. But as far as my race and the local race and what I dealt with with the special election, you know, my opponent was not actually endorsed by the Baltimore Suns, the local newspaper. They endorsed Congressman Cummings widow, Maya Cummings. Yeah. During the primary. Unfortunately, you know, she didn't win. But while she was running and they endorsed her,
Starting point is 01:34:28 they talked about my opponent's sketchy past, right? But then, you know, she didn't win. He became the nominee. And then I'm the nominee. And they're like, Kim Klasick is no good for District 7. We nominate, you know, Kweisi and Fume. I literally go back and, yeah, then nominate, you know, Kweisi and Fume. I literally go back and yeah, then they say, you know, we have heard rumors of his sketchy past. I go back, take the article that they wrote
Starting point is 01:34:53 during the special primary. I'm like, dude, the rumor came from you. Like, this isn't like I heard a rumor, like you wrote it. So was it not true when you wrote it before? Or is it just not true now because I'm the Republican nominee? You know what? I love this. I love the cycle where there will be like a news report and Trump will see it and then he'll be like rambling and he'll mention it. And the media will immediately flip the narrative like that's not true. So like hydroxychloroquine is a really great example. It was Tech tech crunch and several other outlets that wrote a a study conducted by a french you know doctor shows that hydroxychloroquine azithromycin and z-pack it is is potentially good for you know um covid patients and so trump's like doing his
Starting point is 01:35:37 speech and he goes i heard that i heard this thing you hear this about the hydroxychloroquine it sounds fantastic then all of a sudden the media rushes out full speed it's bad don't do it but he literally just read it on some website yeah it's it's it's it's the media doesn't have a consistent narrative other than if trump said it it's wrong right no matter what it is and that's even what most democrat candidates are running on today that's so weak it is it is so how about we take some questions oh yeah and and definitely try and put you on the spot as much as possible. Of course. So V. Sidious wants to know your opinion on Section 230 reform.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Oh, so I know Trump is for revoking. I think it's a bad idea. I think it's a bad idea also. Now, I do believe's a bad idea also. Now, I do believe there should be some reform. Like, I'm a conservative, and I know there's sometimes I tweet things, and, you know, I've got,
Starting point is 01:36:34 I don't know how many followers now, but there shouldn't be, like, 16 likes on it. You know what I mean? And knowing that my followers are, like, you know, people that really support what I say and usually, you know, my thought process. So I know all about, you know, the shadow banning and all that good stuff. But, you know, revoking it completely doesn't make any sense. But then this is one of those things where they just throw the blanket.
Starting point is 01:36:57 You know, it's like, come on, guys, let's put some thought behind this. You know, this is a 230 is really complicated because i've i've had a ton of conversations with people there's there's a lot of things to it that a lot of people don't understand we we often hear from conservatives oh but twitter is a publisher now because they've done this thing and and essentially if you get rid of 230 for those that aren't familiar it it would basically like decimate conservative media because now like trump would try and tweet something and then twitter would say please hold while we review this for publication. Like the Internet couldn't function without it.
Starting point is 01:37:30 But the problem is what 230 does, it allows these companies to curate in good faith. That's probably why you get shadow banned because Twitter is like, well, you know, this one post is objectionable. So let's just, you know, slow that one down. But this thing from Antifa where they're calling for direct violence, well, that's totally fine. Yeah. So, you know, I think to be completely fair, personally, I wouldn't expect you to come out with this huge list of like drawing up 230 and stuff because it is it is it's complicated. It's rough, even for me. And I know a lot about it.
Starting point is 01:38:01 But I think censorship is a serious issue and that's gonna it's gonna impact you and I'll say this I said this a couple years ago that Republican politicians are too stupid to solve this problem and it's going to come back to haunt them and Republican voters agree for the most part if the if the if the politicians don't protect their right to speak in some capacity then you won't have it. So I don't mean that as a disrespect to you or anybody. I was trying to be kind of bombastic in that regard. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:33 I mean, it's obvious. Those on Capitol Hill don't seem to be really with the times. We've seen a lot of those committee hearings when they were talking about social media. Oh, man, they're so old. Yeah, they're like, wait, wait what they did it on on the twitter you know they're like what did they do on the facebook when it's like they have no idea what's going on but this is another reason why we've got to get some younger people out there really running for office because we've got to be able to change with the times and this is on both sides of the aisle you know you got mitch
Starting point is 01:39:02 mcconnell against you know chuck sherman you're like dude both of you should have retired a long time ago totally you know don't say oh mitch is out he's nursing his broken hip well what does that do for you know those he's supposed to represent you know what i mean it didn't really break his hip he did he did oh wow yeah he was out for about four weeks last year yeah oh wow and i was sitting there thinking like hey i'm a republican but i even know this is not cool this is what you know i'll tell you what i care about i want to see millennials running yeah we it feels like too many people in our generation are looking at old people so you got trump who's 74 you've got biden who's 77 bernie was he 78 then you've got schumer mcconnell lindsey graham these are not young people my opponent 74 74 just doing that out there wow how old is
Starting point is 01:39:52 billy prempy's opponent isn't he oh yeah he's like was he 80 or something yeah 82 or something wow insane yeah yeah why yeah young people man that's what, you know, there's two things. Here's my kind of mentality at this point. I think everything you've talked about in terms of policy, it's like keeping it simple and it sounds fantastic. You know what, man? I throw my hands up. I'm a liberal. That's why I'm like, we must regulate these companies.
Starting point is 01:40:19 I've always been in favor of regulating massive multinational corporations that are stealing the commons. I meet a lot of conservatives and libertarians who are not because they're like it's a private business and i'm just like well whatever man but now you've got the mainstream liberal democrats you know whatever saying it's a private business and i'm like what where did you go i don't even know what's going on anymore but i'm at this point i'm like listen man the riots the the 80 years of chicago's single party rule failures cal California's single party rule failures, Baltimore. It's time for some change. It is.
Starting point is 01:40:51 And look, you're much younger. What are you, half the age of your opponent? Yeah. Yeah. Let's get some people who are younger and eager and have ideas they want to implement and give it a shot yeah i agree i i actually agree with nothing aoc says but i respect her passion i respect the way she runs her campaign i respect her hard work and how she got to office with the grassroots efforts i respect it i think you agree with her more than you realize.
Starting point is 01:41:26 I think it's just how far into what, like, her ideas will you be willing to go. So if AOC says everyone should have affordable health care, I think everybody agrees with that. Yeah. Her idea is just now we'll make the government pay for it by taxing everybody. Whereas, you know, typically, typically i guess what is the republican position right now in health care um do your own thing do your own thing you know and i actually do agree with aoc on one thing i'll take that back she is for uh over-the-counter oral contraceptives
Starting point is 01:42:00 and i am actually for it as well and not a lot of republicans love it but uh for me again you know in the black neighborhoods there are a lot of young women that depend on planned parenthood to get their oral contraceptives and so people are familiar this is before conception because i have a lot of people writing fake news that this is like the plan b pill no this is before the before conception this is family planning we have 35 countries around the world that already have it over the counter 11 of them do it very well we have um free clinics all over baltimore where you can get your pelvic exams we can make sure these women are good candidates um and i think that we should push for that
Starting point is 01:42:41 and i tell republicans if you're so for defunding planned parenthood if you take that birth control pill aspect out of it they no longer have that data to show that they need all the federal funding so there's more than one way to skin a cat let's read some more of the uh the questions all righty let's see bry says i think you change all direct benefits including housing subsidies and food stamps to yearly cash payments and let the poor decide for themselves what to do with it. I kind of disagree with that. I really disagree. I'm more of the fence sitter, but what are your thoughts on that?
Starting point is 01:43:18 So I understand the thought process behind it. Was it Bri? Bri. Yes, Bri. I understand the thought process behind it. Was it Bri? Bri. Yes, Bri. I understand the thought process behind it. Unfortunately, you have a situation like we could talk about right now. Food stamps, right?
Starting point is 01:43:32 So you've got kids in a household. Their mother gets food stamps, but the mother decides to take the food stamps, sell her card or snap card, and she buys Ugg boots and some clothes, right? I mean, you have these situations where if you're giving them the cash, even in this situation, a lot of times they won't actually go and get what they're supposed to be getting with it. And I know it sounds really bad and it sounds like a lot of government control the way I'm putting it and I probably shouldn't put it this
Starting point is 01:44:00 way. But this is almost to make sure in a way that at least you know some kids are getting what they need i mean if you gave someone what are they saying bryce saying take the the housing voucher and just make a cash yeah like your yearly payment so you can decide what you need there could be lots of families living in shelters um and the parent could have you know a new pair of jordans on i mean you it's it's it's it's not a good idea yeah it's not a good idea and then maybe it's a cultural thing and and maybe we should pull back on it and i am for less government i am um but i just think right now to do that you know you know i think we're getting wrong uh it's it seems like you've got this traditional left versus right
Starting point is 01:44:40 argument democrat republican where democrats are for social programs republicans aren't um i know there's nuance especially but the way I view it is the problem with the Democrats plan for social programs is they want to give people fish instead of teaching them how to fish. Correct. So if we had government programs to teach people how to fish, you're creating independence and self-sustaining lifestyles. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:00 I don't I'm not going to pretend I know how you implement that program because, you know, smarter people than me have tried and probably need to try a lot harder. But it seems like that's the direction we should go instead of giving cash to people or giving direct payments. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Just giving people things isn't helpful. It's not helpful. You know, there's that there's that meme where it's like a sign says, please don't feed the animals. They'll grow dependent and keep coming back for more and people are like this is a general principle like we want to foster independence and sustainability among you know individuals so they can provide for their families and i think one of the challenges is developing that
Starting point is 01:45:38 mentality as well yeah i know a lot of people i grew up around who don't understand the concept of being responsible. So it's not just about government. It's about their jobs, too. Right. Like they don't fathom the ability to raise, like to make money on their own. Yeah. They think the only way to make money is to have a job.
Starting point is 01:45:55 And I'm like, no, no, no. You can sell T-shirts. You can. These kids selling candy bars. Yeah. That's why I'm like, I respect that. Yeah. They found a way.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Yeah. You can sell candy bars and make some money. Absolutely. Absolutely. So we got some comments here oh gosh be nice oh yeah oh no they're wonderful they're a little angry oh no let's see bringer of d says neither the dems nor the republicans give an f about america that's why dems ignore areas with few electoral votes that's why republicans ignore areas they see a little chance. They don't try because they don't care about you. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:46:33 So this was in my RNC speech. You know, I agree. Republicans don't try in many areas. But do they care? Or do they? I'm not a fan of either party. I can't say that they all care. Because if they did, they would have supported me when I went to run, right? I can't say that they all care.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Are you making them mad now saying this? You know what? I'm one of those people where I'll just make you mad. I know it sounds awful, but I somewhat agree with this comment. And I'm not saying that everyone doesn't care um but what i will say is everybody needs to try a little harder you know you you do you do you're some people are making a ton of money and literally just sitting there i don't think they care i think they're making a ton of money and just sitting there i think the establishment republicans and democrats for too long have been like what do i got to say to get the keys to the
Starting point is 01:47:28 castle and so i can sit around but we've seen something really interesting happen you've got people uh many progressives that are running on the left and they're getting all this press for upsetting you know winning primaries i think a lot of them really care and we're seeing the same thing with people like you i think it's very obvious you care. And so you're running in your district. And it's not just you. We've got people in Florida. There's a lot of Republicans that are primarying these incumbents.
Starting point is 01:47:56 A lot of Republicans are retiring because they were just the establishment do-nothings. And they're like, uh-oh, I actually got to fight against a passionate young person who's trying to bring about change in their community. I'm out of here. That's too much work. Yeah, yeah. But I think the internet has finally, our politics is finally catching up with, or the internet is finally hitting the political realm. Where now, I feel like, you know, you mentioned you weren't getting support from the GOP.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Could you imagine if you were doing this run before social media? No. And I thought about that. We only released the ad on social media. That was not a commercial buy. It wasn't an ad buy. It was only on social media. And we put it on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.
Starting point is 01:48:40 That's it. And so social media. Oh, it's got way more than 12 million views. That's just on Twitter. Yeah. And then people were yelling at me saying, why isn't it on YouTube? I was like, dude, I forgot. So it didn't go on YouTube until a week later.
Starting point is 01:48:53 You know what I think it is? I think a lot of people saw that and they said, I know exactly what you're saying. It resonated. When I watched it, I was like, yep. I grew up in an area where they made all these promises to us. Let me tell you a story. Let me tell you a story. Let me tell you a story. We had a kid in my neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:49:08 He went door to door. We wanted to build a skate park. Raised a bunch of money going to the neighbors and saying, you know, we would always go to this park and we would skate around and we would damage, you know, skateboarding. You can rough up some of the planters that, you know, hold in the wood chips and stuff. And we would often get in trouble because the kids were all clustering around this playground. So one kid got the idea to go to a fundraising so we could build a skate park in the old rundown tennis court. He raised a bunch of money from the locals.
Starting point is 01:49:36 I'm not going to make any accusations. All I'm going to tell you is what I was told by some of these people. Tens of thousands of dollars are raised. We end up getting the worst skate park imaginable. It's like, I have no idea who built any of this stuff. And then interestingly, around the same time, a bunch of new landscaping was done. And so one of the kids who was raising money was like, hey, wait a minute. These ramps don't cost nearly as much as we raised.
Starting point is 01:50:02 And what are all of those new plants you know around the building and so i don't i don't know if it was actually like they siphoned away funds for their own personal endeavors for beautification projects or whatever but i do know that we had this big this big event where like to chris in the park we had a contest and some politicians came out and made these promises about don't worry we're going to invest in your community smile for the camera and we're like yay and that was that we never saw him again yeah and so i just was like they got their flowers they gave us nothing and then when i went one day to skate at the park that my friends you know we all came together i didn't do any fundraising but you know it was part of it was a community effort mostly done by this one kid they called the cops on me and my brother what they were like you're
Starting point is 01:50:44 not allowed to be here get out of here they were like only at after certain hours and i'm like what was the point of doing all this work to just be treated this way so i just it really it really disillusions you that that that made me go from like a 14 year old skater kid to being like super anarchist f the system like angry like how good and then when I was like 18, I was like, I better chill. That's not really that. But speaking of that, we have another question. This is from the LaPardee. He says, hey, Kim, what's your stance on police reform?
Starting point is 01:51:15 Oh, thank you, LaPardee. I think police reform is necessary. I mean, we can't ignore it, right? There isn't, obviously, there aren't just a few bad apples. Do I have it high on my priority list living in an area we have over 300 murders every year over 700 shootings just last year over 420 carjackings just last year no it's not high on my priority list because these aren't police involved carjacking shootings or murders. But did there be some police reform? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Again, this is like one of those situations where I can't tell somebody about their experience in life. You know, we got to come together and talk about our experiences and figure out a solution. This is why everything I think everyone's very important. This is why I do want younger people to run for office because we got to come together and talk about it and figure out like this is like, you know, a doctor not talking to a patient, but then writing a prescription. We can't do that. We can't do that. I think it's just I think they've overhyped the problems.
Starting point is 01:52:21 And it's crazy to me that you can mention all of those crimes, especially the you know to beat a dead horse i'm from chicago but but to hear we need police reform i'm like listen i've dealt with bad cops i've dealt with high crime if i saw you know donald trump's tactical gear guys in the streets i would not be like oh no my neighbor what's happening i'd be like something must be going that. That something's being done about it. Yeah. And a lot of it's what is really interesting is a pride issue. I see with many on the left that like if the police come up to somebody and say, we're detaining you, put your hands behind your back, they get angry.
Starting point is 01:52:56 Yeah. No, no. How dare you? You can't do this to me. It's like they can. It's there are a lot of detain you. It's like try and be reasonable and choose your battles. So when I get stopped by the cops,'m just like am i being detained if i am then i am and but a lot of people
Starting point is 01:53:11 i think the left has said when people say things like if the police are arresting you or detaining you just comply and like yes because then you win the battle later right but they say things like why should i have to they have no no right, blah, blah, blah. And it's, so what do you do? You get into a fist fight with a cop? That's ridiculous. You can't do that. Anyway, the main point is, when I think about the amount of crime in my area versus the amount of problems with police, I'm like, one clearly outweighs the other.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Yeah. We've got bad cops in Chicago. It's a known problem. Right. But for the most part part you see a cop that you're not gonna have a problem then they're probably going to be dealing with some crime so while i've personally i've i've been messed with by cops like i've had cop plant weed in my car i got i got lucky they found my uh my dad's firefighter emblem and we're just like get out of
Starting point is 01:53:59 here like they're they're yeah chicago man know. And I've been given bad tickets. So I do think reform makes sense. But I'm also like, man, can we deal with the gun violence and the fighting and the killing and everything? Because I'm like, you said it's not high on your priority list because of you have all this crime already. And I feel the exact same way. Yeah. I think it's a priority and I'll have a conversation about it. But yeah, absolutely. priority and i'll have a conversation about it but yeah absolutely x runner 55 says i live in baltimore and would vote for you in a second if they didn't gerrymander the gentrified areas out
Starting point is 01:54:31 of your district thank you yeah i haven't talked about it so you know yeah thank you so much let's see what we got here carl uh inkstrom ernstrom says donate to Kim Klasik, not the RNC. The RNC handed John McCain and Mitt Romney to the voters. The RNC needs to get a clue. Vote Klasik 2020. There you go.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Thank you. Thank you. People are being... Keep preaching that, okay? People are being very nice. Here's one. Now there are just a bunch of people
Starting point is 01:55:00 praising you, to be completely honest. This is Theo... She can use it. Theo Frasta says, Kim is fantastic. She's very perceptive. I'm learning a lot from this interview. Cool. people praising you to be completely honest uh this is uh theo she can use it theo frasta frasta says kim is fantastic she's very perceptive i'm learning a lot from this interview cool someone said uh good luck in arizona are you going you're going to arizona wait a minute i am going to arizona for something oh how do they know that top secret that's from k renee
Starting point is 01:55:21 crazy i've never even posted about that are you allowed to say what you're doing no well because i'm waiting for the the final confirmation but there's something going on in arizona where they're inviting some republican candidates out there to talk and oh wow somebody i was like i saw that and i'm like what are you doing in arizona that's cool hey someone, what is this? Someone says, ugh, you can only like once. Awesome live, guys. Oh, yay.
Starting point is 01:55:52 I'm sitting here thinking you guys are about to shred me to pieces. No way, man. Everybody's very nice. All right, cool. And see, I'm actually trying to, I'm looking out for anyone who's posting, like, comments that are silly. No, they're all actually fairly normal. Fairly normal. Our audience is fairly normal.
Starting point is 01:56:08 Yeah, for sure. There are a lot that are saying, like, keep up the good work. Really appreciate the show. It's really great. Seth Missayan says, it's not enough to not be trash. You have to be anti-trash. Thank you for being anti-trash. Love what you do.
Starting point is 01:56:20 Thank you. Thank you. Jerry, our aunt, says, everyone drink each time tim says to be fair you see i've i've brought this up because there's i go through periods where i will say like one thing a lot whether it's it's complicated or to be fair or at the end of the day i have it just happens like once a month i'll have a new catchphrase matthew stockhausen says my hometown of merrimack new hampshire has been listed as the safest or one of the safest places in new hampshire those were years we had the uh where we had the highest
Starting point is 01:56:52 police per capita in the state that's interesting interesting i think it's fair to say if you had like 500 cops on like one block there'd be no crime on that block yeah i just don't know if anybody if anybody wants to live that way right right chicago did that response to looting they just apparently were like cops everywhere this is it solves the problem but i mean is that comfortable people well i have to say too i you know when you look at these areas and we had problems in our police force in baltimore city we had the gun trace task force i know you saw that um you know a lot there were four i think that got indicted for you know planting guns and drugs oh wow but you have to understand these corrupt police uh forces are corrupt and easily are that way because of the corruption within the entire city
Starting point is 01:57:39 you know when you've got a corrupt city hall yeah you you got a corrupt police force. It goes hand in hand. You know, we've got to get the corruption. We got to root it all out in all areas. That's a job for Trump. Yeah. I think the best way for dealing with a lot of these cities is federal investigations of corrupt government officials. It is really difficult, though. But, you know, I think about my perspective coming from Chicago. How do you deal with a mayor, a commissioner and all these people who have no interest in helping the people, allowing some of these, you know, corrupt activities to happen? And they say to themselves things like, well, it's bad, but at least it's better with me here. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:58:16 Yeah. Like, well, the cops are corrupt, but could you imagine if I wasn't here? Man, the cops would be so much worse. It's like, they're still bad. Yeah. You know, and I don't mean that literally. mean that figuratively like i think chicago police have have a lot of problems yeah but i don't think they're i think they're a little bit worse than a lot of other places but they're not all bad yeah pj says miss klasick you're awesome i saw
Starting point is 01:58:37 your ads on facebook and donated to your campaign conservative white guy from ohio thank you thank you pj let's see res Rishab Verma says, great discussion, guys. More leftists need to see this and walk away. Well, then share it if you like the show. SFG Cisco says, I used to live near Baltimore and be there on Friday nights for nightlife.
Starting point is 01:58:58 Once you left Fells Point and the Inner Harbor, it was all run down, sketchy and very run down. 2001 to 2002, worse now. Fix it. Yes. Our Inner Harbor, it was all run down, sketchy, and very run down. 2001 to 2002, worse now. Fix it. Yes. Our Inner Harbor is actually in receivership right now. So that's that.
Starting point is 01:59:10 What does that mean? Well, so basically there's no stores left, no restaurants, and the city did nothing to replenish anything over there. Wow. It's just sitting. It's an eyesore now, but that used to be a gem, right? It was right by camden yards you know you had the cheesecake factory you had all these people that would
Starting point is 01:59:28 come there every weekend and hang out with their families and now it's just nothing wow that's sad that was pretty yeah i was down there a while ago here we go from david myerson he says i'm a normal person lol kim is an amazing kim is amazing and fighting for her community. What's not to love? I wish we had that in North Carolina. Where do we donate? Thank you. That's a pitch right to you to go, where do they donate?
Starting point is 01:59:54 KimKforCongress.com is the website. I will say a little secret here. You could also send a check, if you'd like, to our P.O. Box 15361 Middle River, Maryland, 21220. And that actually goes completely to the campaign, right? I don't think people realize how much fees some of these websites take. Do you use WinRed? I have WinRed and Anodot. And we've made them rich let me tell you
Starting point is 02:00:27 yeah and i'm not saying they're bad you know it's great but you know if you do you know go to the website kimk for congress.com you'll see right on the the bottom um lower tier there you'll see our p.o box number you know if you do want to write a check and send it to us and and please know we appreciate it i mean we're now we're able to buy, you know, ad space and billboards and send more mailers. And I have, you know, very small staff. We have a lot of volunteers because it's not really about, you know, paying people. This is like, I really feel like if we spend smart, we can win this thing. And that's why I've got people out there seven days a week.
Starting point is 02:01:04 And I know they're probably really mad at me, but I'm like, look, guys, we don't have that many days left. I'm out here, too. We can do this. We can do this. And luckily, we have a lot of passionate people that are like, you know what? I think we can. I think Billy said it well. If you win, you win.
Starting point is 02:01:22 If you lose, you win because you're doing the work. Yeah. Billy said it well. If you win, you win. If you lose, you win because you're doing the work. It might be a tough battle, but the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single footstep. That's the goal. What's your social media for people if they want to follow you? On Twitter, it's Kim K Baltimore. Facebook, Instagram, it's Kimberly Klasik. K-L-A-C-I-K. Yes.
Starting point is 02:01:48 And I would say LinkedIn. Meanwhile, LinkedIn is popping these days. Is it? Have you noticed that? I haven't noticed. I'm hearing you talk about it. I am getting yelled at sometimes because they're like, you didn't see my message on LinkedIn. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 02:02:00 Who checks LinkedIn messages? How funny. Don't rag on LinkedIn. I don't use it. But yeah, I've been getting emails about it. I guess people are using it now. Yeah, there's a ton't rag on LinkedIn. I don't use it. But yeah, I've been getting emails about it. I guess people are using it now. Yeah, there's a ton of people on LinkedIn. Wow.
Starting point is 02:02:10 Yeah. I should look at it. It's like, yeah, it's getting really hip these days. You know what it is? It's that we're all kind of getting older and realizing professional is more important than yelling at each other on Twitter. You just cracked the case there. Yeah, there it is.
Starting point is 02:02:21 I think we crashed your website. Why did it not work? Yeah, it's not working for me. So we'll give it some time. KimKForCongress.com It just loaded and loaded. F-O-R. Yeah. Crazy. Too many people tried to go there at once. I hope this is the case. So at the RNC convention
Starting point is 02:02:36 speech, it crashed for two hours. Oh, come on. Alright. Well, they'll just have to follow you on Twitter. Too many people. Are you serious? I'm about to cry. No, no, no. Don't cry. Not allowed. I'm also about to text my manager. No, they'll just have to follow you on Twitter. Too many people. Are you serious? I'm about to cry. No, no, no. Don't cry. Not allowed. I'm also about to text my manager.
Starting point is 02:02:49 I'm sad. It's a good problem to have. I wish he could handle it. You've got so many people trying to hit you up. Yeah, that's awesome. This is... You know what? You tell them.
Starting point is 02:02:58 But you might lose a lot of money, you know? They should follow you on Twitter for sure. Yes. Let's see. Oh, my gosh. Daniel Hatch says, Kim, go on Hotep's Been Told Ya. Get the message out. Oh, that'd be
Starting point is 02:03:11 fun. That's a fun show. Do you follow the Hotep crew? Hotep Jesus and those guys? Yeah, we got in a little fight. Oh, really? Well, okay. This is another thing. I know I should be nicer. So this is before I started running for office and they kept telling me like you need if you run for office you need a black agenda and i was like
Starting point is 02:03:32 here's an idea you run for office on a black agenda oh snap and he goes well i've been thinking about it and then he says nothing it's like crickets and i'm like how are you gonna tell me what to run on? You know, it's like, I guess, with the ADOS and everything. And I understand. This is why I say everybody has their own experience in life. Everybody's voice should be heard. That's just not what I'm running on.
Starting point is 02:03:56 But you feel free. This is a free country. Feel free to run on it if you like. And they just did not like that I said that. So here's a question from Garrett Ford. Kim, what do you think Republicans can do to reach out and attract black youth? like and they just did not like that i said that so here's a question from garrett ford kim what do you think republicans can do to reach out and attract black youth also what after-school programs would help young underprivileged kids succeed in adult life yes your website is working
Starting point is 02:04:16 just so you know oh i finally got it to go through so i just cursed at my manager i've done great things um yeah so first and foremost um the republican party this is what's what's so crazy about it this okay so right now we've got 21 black americans running for congress right now right this is the most in history in baltimore city we have four black republican candidates running for city council and if you talk to probably 90 of these candidates will say it's because i felt like i could because president trump wow was in office and was literally like what do you have to lose he seems to embrace you know black americans that is that was trump that extended that olive branch and that's what i was trying to say i guess in my rnc convention speech it wasn't the rnc that that extended this olive branch it was trump and so when we hear people talk about
Starting point is 02:05:10 how racist trump is i'm like if trump wasn't there i wouldn't be running for office i will be very honest with you wow you know and so it's interesting to me and i think if the rnc just would take a page out of trump's book and and just said you know what anyone that wants to be a Republican anyone that wants to run you know you don't have to wait your turn in line you know just you know embrace people embrace them you know when I was running at this time I'd already been going on Fox News when American News right I already had press and media contacts so I was like I know I can raise a little bit of money because I can go, you know, on some of these networks. They were actually supporting my opponent who had no media contacts.
Starting point is 02:05:57 You know, she raised almost no money at all. It was just her turn in line because she's been with the Maryland GOP for so many years. So, you know, they got to get out of this, you know, the good old boys club and really step into 2020 is what it comes down to. Because I will give the DNC credit. They do welcome new faces and new people. Yeah, they do. They see it as a benefit. And I think the GOP would benefit from that.
Starting point is 02:06:22 Yes, we've got to do that. We've got to do that we've got to do that um as far as uh young people doing you know what they can do um to help them on that that track to success is that what that person asked i'm sorry yeah i was going off yeah so um i think and this is what i loved about when i used to volunteer on capitol hill i used to volunteer and help out with those that were giving the tours, like the school kids. So many kids that came down to the Capitol to see everything. It was like, wow, and this is amazing. And they got involved in politics.
Starting point is 02:06:57 But there weren't many black kids that were coming down. Not many black schools that were taking the trips down. I think exposure trips are vital, right? If you don't leave that neighborhood, if you don't make that track out, you're not going to ever be exposed to, you know, just some of these things. And that's when I really started getting involved in politics, when I was volunteering, and I got to sat in on the Benghazi committee hearings. You know, watching Congressman Trey Gowdy in person was like, whoa, this dude is on fire.
Starting point is 02:07:32 I got to watch this whole thing. And that's how it all happened. Honestly, I went to I had the volunteer badge, went to his office and asked for an interview and they were like, who are you? And I'm like kim clay sick you know but it you know trey gowdy was such a cool guy he let me interview him and that was the night before he interviewed secretary of state hillary clinton asking where the emails were wow yes yes and i i always go back to it because people are like what was wrong with do you remember when
Starting point is 02:08:01 that day trey gowdy was like sweating and look he was so sick oh he definitely i mean today it would be classified as the coronavirus but he definitely had like the flu and he was so sick and everybody talked about how he looked you know sitting up there but i was like i saw him he was sick you know, sleeping in his office, basically, you know, trying to put the work in. It was. But that is when I it really took me to another level as far as politics. And that is when I was exposed to that Benghazi committee hearing to the flu from Trey Gowdy. Yes.
Starting point is 02:08:38 Awesome. Yeah. That's cool. There are a lot of people mentioning they donated to your campaign. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:08:46 Thank you so much. And this one person, Lass Bauer, is saying that after you've made sense of Baltimore, he wants you to go and replace the Danish prime minister. Oh, wow. You got this. Yeah. And David Meyerson says, where's your campaign song? My campaign song?
Starting point is 02:09:03 I guess. Does Trump have one? I don't know. Oh. I don't know oh i don't know is that a thing you're supposed to have they asked i don't know uh let's see i'll send you one if i come up with one uh let me tell you we have a lot of people saying keep up the good work andre baxter thanks for the super chat and um t cliff saying just sent 50 to your campaign kim you are so inspirational and i really admire your servant leadership. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:09:27 So if you would like to donate, once again, you can shout out. You want to shout out your website real quick? KimKForCongress.com. And your social medias? Kim K Baltimore on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Kimberly Klasick. I really do appreciate this opportunity. You have no idea.
Starting point is 02:09:47 Coming on here? Yes. I was like, man, if it was so cool if Kim would come on my show. That's what's so crazy about this. You have no idea how long I've been like, oh, he's so cool. He's getting his own story. So I love when people create news and not just going with the current events. And you've had times where you created news. Did I? Yeah. going with the current events and you've had times where you created news did i yeah i think i think i used to do a lot more of that i would go when i used to do more on the ground stuff it started getting dangerous though i know but i just the fact that the simple fact that you did it i mean when i took those videos of the trash right yeah that was me being like a little
Starting point is 02:10:22 tim like oh yeah yeah you know what i mean like and i wish more people would do that though because you know now we have the time of social media your phone camera could catapult you and your career or just save lives or improve the quality of life for others and so definitely you know instead of like always just filming like a fight you know at school what if you filmed like something really positive that could make a positive change in someone's life? That should go viral on Worldstar. Cool.
Starting point is 02:10:50 For sure. Kim, thank you so much for hanging out with us. Thanks for having me. And say your website one more time. KimKforCongress.com Right on. And so we're about to ready to wrap up. Thanks for hanging out.
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Starting point is 02:11:15 Sour Patch Lids, Sour Patch L-Y-D-S on Twitter and Parler. But again, Kim, thank you so much for hanging out. And now we're going to sign off. So we'll see you guys Monday at 8 p.m. live. Again, thank you so much for hanging out. And now we're going to sign off. So we'll see you guys Monday at 8 p.m. live. Again, thank you so much. Bye, guys.

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