Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #133 - NY School Sparks OUTRAGE After Comparing Cops To The Klan, Colin Wright Joins

Episode Date: September 15, 2020

Tim and guest Dr. Colin Wright, PhD, evolutionary biologist, (@swipewright on Twitter) discuss the cultural shift, starting with an article about a teacher who handed out a cartoon comparing modern po...lice to colonizers and KKK members, then move on to discuss the shifting nature of the postmodern intersectional mindset, women's sports, sex vs gender, race and genetics, and possible futures.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast. I am Tim Poole. I'm hanging out with some friends today, a special guest. We're hanging out with Colin Wright. Do you want to just give a real quick introduction? Who are you? Why are you here? I'm an ex-evolutionary biologist. I'm the managing editor for Quillette magazine. Oh, cool. And I'm here to talk about, I guess, cancel culture and sex and gender and whatever. Yeah, schools have gotten woke to an ever-increasingly insane degree. Yes, they have, absolutely. And there's a cat just chugging away in front of you.
Starting point is 00:00:29 He's just drinking water. Special guest. Yeah, well, you know, he runs the place. And also, of course, we have Sour Patch Lids. She's hanging out. Yes, I'm here. So we had this story I thought was really fascinating because I definitely wanted to talk to you
Starting point is 00:00:40 because, well, you're an ex-evolutionary biologist. So I guess you're an expert on biological sex. Well, I technically studied social behavior in insects and arachnids. Ah, okay. But I started talking about biological sex because, one, it's not too much of a difficult subject to get into, especially if you're a biologist. You're pretty familiar with what biological sex is
Starting point is 00:01:03 and just seeing how the narrative around sex has just been sort of going, spinning out of control over the last several years. I've heard it doesn't exist. There's no biological sex. You heard wrong. Well, a man on Canadian public access television told Dr. Jordan Peterson that there is no such thing as biological sex. This was Nicholas Matt, and Nicholas is a historian of medicine. And can unpack that for us at great length. Why should I trust you?
Starting point is 00:01:28 I wish he did unpack that. I would like to hear him unpack that at length, which he didn't get around to. I know, right? Well, so we got a bunch of other stories, and actually I want to lead with this one about this New York high school because they're comparing police to Klan members. There's also a ton of videos coming out, and I couldn't just pick one of these stories. So I did a Google search about school and Black Lives Matter, and you can
Starting point is 00:01:49 basically find just, I don't know, on the front page of Google, it's just a bunch of stories about all of these schools that are bringing in Black Lives Matter curriculum. They're not even teaching kids math. They're teaching them social justice. There's one clip going viral right now that purports to be, I say this is important, purports, because I don't know exactly what's going on. But there's this kid and the parent, I guess, is filming the computer from the other side. And they're talking about how if Joe Biden dies, Kamala Harris will be the first female president. And what that has to do with school, I have no idea. And it's also kind of morbid, but perhaps that's what people are really banking on.
Starting point is 00:02:27 But we've got a bunch of other stories too. So you have a lot to say about transgender athletes and biological sex and all that stuff, and we can definitely talk about, I guess, insect evolutionary biology. We could. That'd be something I haven't talked on in a while. No one seemed to care about that ever since then. Well, I think it's relevant to the conversation. I mean, maybe we'll get into some crazy stories about, like, crazy creepy bugs or something. Sure, why not?
Starting point is 00:02:47 Who knows where we'll go? But there's a lot to talk about because it's not just schools. It's government. It's schools and government, but also, of course, in culture. There's a really funny story. We're going to have fun with this one. Wimmickson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:00 You know Wimmickson? Is that how you pronounce it? We saw a different pronunciation. No, they want to pronounce it Wimix. Wimix. So this is, they've changed the word woman to W-O-M-X-N. Sorry, that's Wimixn, not Womix. That doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:03:15 They're not even pronouncing words. This dude's a buck of a cat. He's all about that. Wow. He still wants water. All right, but let's just jump into the first story and see what's going on in these schools. Check this out. From the Daily Mail. Actually, I should not do that.
Starting point is 00:03:28 No. Before we get started, make sure you smash the like button and subscribe. That's the important thing. And hit the notification bell. We do the show live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. Now. See the cat. There we go.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Now let's read the story. Yeah, you got to see the cat's butt. Yay. Daily Mail says, Nework high school under fire after teacher handed out cartoon which compares cops to the kkk and slave owners on first day of class and i saw this story and i thought to myself look well look at this image so first you have what looks like a colonial guy he says i and then there's a black man on the ground and each and every one, I can't, I can't. Wait, it's like, I can't, I can't breathe. And then the last one is the cop kneeling on a dude's neck. And it just does not represent historical context at all. And so it's
Starting point is 00:04:19 just one example of grade school indoctrination. So let's, we'll read this story and then I'll show you some of the searches because you can find this at every school basically. They say a school in Westchester has come under fire after a teacher handed out an image to students about the Black Lives Matter movement, comparing modern day cops to slave owners and the Ku Klux Klan. Westlake High School educator Christopher Moreno gave his 11th graders a handout on September 8th on the first day of classes. The handout included a five frame cartoon panel titled George Floyd. Each panel showing a white man kneeling on the neck of a black man from different historical periods.
Starting point is 00:04:53 In the first frame, a pirate is shown kneeling on a pirate. Is he a pirate? Kneeling on a black man in chains having been captured. I think that's supposed to be just like a colonial slave trader. And I call him a pirate. He probably had governmental authority to do the things he's doing. Let me go and explain this. I showed you the picture already. But yeah, so for those that are listening, it's what looks like a colonial slave trader followed by a plantation owner, followed by a Klansman, and then just a cop. And there's a sign saying white only. And then finally, what looks like supposed to be Chauvin and George Floyd.
Starting point is 00:05:26 They say Westlake mother, Anya Pattern Nostro, told the New York Post, my daughter showed me the paper. I said, what is this? You've got to be kidding me. The cartoon compares the police to the Klan. It's an attack on the police. Pattern Nostro said that she immediately sent letters protesting the cartoon to Mount Pleasant School District
Starting point is 00:05:45 Superintendent Kurt Coates and Westlake Principal Keith Schenker, whose school is in the district. Enough is enough, Paternostro said to the Post. This cartoon is disturbing. We have to respect the men in blue who protect us, added the mom of two, a native of Poland. Wow, interesting. We don't need a teacher brainwashing my kids. I'll teach my kids about what's right and what's wrong. Her daughter, Nicole, said that she was troubled by the cartoon included in Moreno's lessons plan, calling it disgusting for comparing the police to all the terrible people in history. It wasn't fair. It wasn't right.
Starting point is 00:06:17 The high school student said she had since been bullied on social media since she made the controversial lesson plan public and has been called a racist. Oh well that's it shut her down she's a racist you know so she wins so she's out is there any sense of whether this is part of the curriculum because to me there should be maybe some sort of stopgap some some process of knowing what belongs in schools or are these teachers just going out and finding cartoons online and just you know on twitter and memes and they're just putting in their classroom because i can't see any any school board approving something like this i don't think they have yeah i don't think it's part of the curriculum although there was a leaked school curriculum that was just basically all social justice activism was not even teaching kids anything i don't know
Starting point is 00:07:04 like i don't know why parents are still putting their kids in these places, man. It's hard to know how much it's, if it's in the curriculum, how much the ideology has seeped in where this is just what's being offered by these institutions or if this is just like rogue teachers just bringing their politics in the classroom or just some marriage of both. It's probably that, but who's going to speak up against them? You're not a bigot, are you? Well, you you you are right.
Starting point is 00:07:27 You left academia. I have been accused of that. You're not. But they say you are because they say that about everybody. I mean, to me, this is the critical race cartoon version of things like the gender bred person and the gender unicorn. The gender bred person. Yeah. You've probably seen those before.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's, again, it's all part of this like critical theory assessment of how power dynamics are playing in society in different areas. This is the critical race version of it. And then you go with the gender studies version. There's like the colonial version of it. Right, right, right. And these things manifest themselves in weird cartoons like this that we're teaching our children apparently. Would you put your kids in the school? You know, I used to be a pretty strong proponent of public education, and I used to be very much against voucher programs.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And this is mainly because I didn't want students to be, you know, not taught evolution or taught creationism and intelligent design. But over the last three years, I've done a complete 180. I'm now 100% vouchers. I don't think I'd want to send my kids if i ever had crazy it's crazy i it's totally off subject but i was just talking about earlier today i bought a bunch of guns think about how crazy left has gone to where you used to be against the voucher program for school choice i used beginning of this year i was like no guns in my house and now like a combination of factors has like pushed us both like just on the other side of these things i will march for vouchers now you will march for i mean i have an evolutionary biology background of a phd in evolutionary biology i don't want creationism or intelligent
Starting point is 00:08:59 design in schools but frankly i'd rather have my students at a private school teaching religious notions of creationism, intelligent design, as long as they're not teaching a lot of this wokeness. I'd prefer an indoctrination into creationism than into this critical theory nonsense. But why is that? Do you think critical race theory is more dangerous? I do. I mean, I used to argue with intelligent design people, and at least they're up for an argument. At least they're presenting some sort of evidence that I think is bad evidence, but they're at least willing to engage with you in a public sphere.
Starting point is 00:09:35 They at least think the outside world exists as, you know, we see it to some degree, and they'll use certain facts. I think they'll use bad facts to make a case for themselves. But then when you talk to these critical theorist people, they don't even think that facts are something that is real. They think these are all social constructions. So there's just no... There's no objective truth. There's no foundation. We're not starting from the same place to have an argument.
Starting point is 00:09:57 They're starting from a place where knowledge is socially constructed, white, Western, everything. This is really interesting. So when I talk to them, it's not just a clash of ideas. It's a world of views that are diametrically opposed in every single way, trying to figure things out, and they don't translate. But I wonder if it's actually that they have political views or they're just your enemy.
Starting point is 00:10:19 You know what I mean? Like they're emotionally invested in opposing the other. And so here's what I'm saying. You go to a creationist and they'll say, here's why I believe in creation. And they'll try and find evidence to support that because they understand the concept of evidence exists. Like you said, bad evidence for sure. And at some point, a lot of times they'll get down to like, well, I just believe it on faith. But there's some that are sort of –
Starting point is 00:10:41 It's in the Bible. There is a movement of just sort of like a justified faith thing where they try to ground it all on reason and evidence and i'm happy talking to those people well so so here's here's what i'm trying to say if you go to these critical race theory people they'll say whatever they have to say at any given moment to make it make sense even if it contradicts what they said 10 seconds ago exactly yeah but that's because so i'm wondering if it's really about an actual ideology or if they're kind of making it up as they go along they're basically just saying you're a bad guy and so no matter what you say i oppose you know what i mean like they don't actually believe
Starting point is 00:11:14 like i'll put it this way like yes there are some tenets of what they believe in but it's only because they've been espoused enough. But it comes to a point where if you say, okay, well, the evidence doesn't suggest this, and their response is, you believe in evidence? They're clearly just contrarian. Yeah, well, they're diametrically opposed to stable notions of reality. And so when you try to drill down on any certain aspect,
Starting point is 00:11:44 their main tactic is going to be to just problematize it to try to just shift the floor out from under your feet and a lot of their tactics if you read some of their papers and stuff they'll take some some concept and then they'll deconstruct into a million pieces and then their ultimate conclusion at the end of the day is almost entirely well there's not much to conclude here it's just they just yeah they just break binaries break any sort of boundaries blur the distinctions between borders on any concept and that's just sort of their that's how that's how it works they don't want this stable like two plus two is five that's you know a good example of wow there's so much of this stuff it's everywhere yeah it's everything yeah it's crazy uh
Starting point is 00:12:24 well i want to save it because we're definitely gonna talk about trump banning this stuff in the government but i want to show you this because this is a story from just last month u.s schools are changing their curriculum in response to black lives matter as survey finds 81 percent of teachers support the movement 81 percent I got to say, if if all of the teachers believe this, why should I think you're correct? Well, I'm half kidding, but yeah, it's it needs to be broken down into what's meant by Black Lives Matter and the language game they play where it can be both a movement, an ideology, a statement of of clear fact that Black Lives do in fact matter. And that's why it's one of the best slogans I can imagine, because no one would be against saying Black Lives Matter as a general statement of what's true about the value of life. And so, but they can change the meaning in any context they want to, to sort of get what they want, get their results.
Starting point is 00:13:20 No one's going to be standing up in a group, you know, in a school setting where they're trying to have, people are going to be voting on whether or not the curriculum gets based on Black Lives Matter or something. No one's going to be the one guy standing up to say, I'm actually against Black Lives Matter, because you'll just be hurrying out of the room. Yeah, they'll say, what do you think? They don't matter? What's wrong with you? Not a good look. It's a semantic manipulation. But here's the important the important factor if 81 of teachers agree with the movement and we have an endless number of schools that have adopted the curriculum won't it just be
Starting point is 00:13:51 that the next the next generation these young kids in grade school are going to grow up indoctrinated into that worldview and you are going to be a creepy weirdo who doesn't understand reality i'm sure there's a lot of people saying that right now that i'm the creepy weirdo yeah i try to think if you know if you have things like intelligent design, what if 81% of teachers were pro that? We have to have some notion of what can be taught in schools that can't just be based on do most teachers believe in this thing. You need to have something that's based in evidence, something that's factually able to be argued from first principles like evolutionary biology over creationism, intelligent design. And what we're getting here with the Black Lives Matter critical race theory that's being put in there is people are bringing their politics to the table,
Starting point is 00:14:35 and they're asserting that this is the only way we can deal with racial issues. They reject the sort of liberal approach to race. And just because people believe in it it seems to just be steam rolling ahead did you hear about that group of people who want to create a black only city i did yeah also the michigan state university they have the um dearborn is that what that is yeah where they did the white only thing yeah the white white only was it a cafe yeah but it's it's like it was like a virtual hangout session they called a cafe which is really weird yeah it was yeah it was a remote
Starting point is 00:15:10 still it's even strange it's still really weird you're gonna be like you know we're gonna put out a link come hang out in this zoom chat if you're white that's that's that that's the logical conclusion to what that these schools are promoting it's it's it's crazy i i was talking to a friend about a lot of this stuff who used to be a normal liberal and now is like i hate to say it but i'm like it's it's it's it's hardcore identitarianism it this is a white woman telling all of her white friends to form a collective to take collective racial action for the betterment of the the poor minorities who are underprivileged and i'm like, you're asserting superiority over this group in some capacity, and you're pushing for white racial collective action.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Can you look in a mirror for two seconds? Like, what would you call that? Sounds like racism. Sounds like... Extra steps, yeah. Yeah, with extra steps. I just don't see how an an intense focus on making race the most important issue is some way going to make race less important or make race go away i don't
Starting point is 00:16:13 think that's their plan what do you think the plan is well i will say seeing schools adopt all this stuff seeing schools call cops like clan members and slave owners how absolutely absolutely psychotic is that? Slave trader, very, very different from a guy who's trying to stop a mugger from like beating the crap out of a woman. You know what I mean? Not like they always can do that, but they respond to crimes and they file reports and they help arrest people, lock people up. They do a lot of things I don't like recently with COVID, a lot of unconstitutional law, and they just kind of follow the order. But you can call the cops and be like, someone broke into my house, and the cops will rush there. I had someone trying to break in here.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I called the cops. They came and said, you know, we got you. Whatever you need, man. We got your back. I'm like, man, so grateful these guys are here. So dramatically different from a Klan member. And so these schools are – it seems like there's visible goal outcomes that are coming from this the first is they want to destroy our institutions right so first you take all these bad things from history
Starting point is 00:17:13 slave owners clan members and then align them with police you want people these people a lot of these black lives matter activists are going around saying like police are hunting us like i that no that, that's like paranoid. It's not happening. And they claim it is. And then you get these well-to-do liberals who are pushing the stuff saying, look, look, they are because they said so, because their lived experience is more important than empirical evidence, which they don't believe exists anyway. The end result of changing the definitions of words changing the pronunciation of words like wimix into wiminks like that's not even how the letter it's to spell it w-o-m-n-x and we'll talk about
Starting point is 00:17:52 women women women it's spelled anyway but they're just basically deconstructing everything like you were you were saying this right they take everything they strip it they strip it for parts and then they leave the parts laying on the ground. They're not rebuilding anything. So, so in the end, what happens? The schools teach kids a bunch of nonsense. The kids grow up and have no idea how to function because instead of learning math, they learned police are bad. So that's, that's one outcome. I don't know if their, their intention is to do that or if their goal is to break everything down. And then once it's completely destroyed, create their socialist, you know, Marxist utopia, whatever it is they think. I think that's the second one
Starting point is 00:18:26 is what I think they're mainly doing because they need the institutions. They don't want to, well, they want to destroy them as we know them, but they want to use them as sort of their recruitment ground and their rhetorical tools. They want to wear the institutions like skin suits
Starting point is 00:18:40 after they latch onto the neck of the institution and suck the moist, juicy innards of the creature out and then parasitically take over. It's like Men in Black, you know. I think it was like Eric Weinstein that talked about them being sort of hermit crabs. And we have all these different institutions and they have different shells. And we see the shells remain intact. And then at some point, all the crabs that used to inhabit them left. And now there's these new crabs and they're masquerading around as the new york times as right you know whatever you want they still have this prestige of having those shells but i like i like you like
Starting point is 00:19:15 yours i like mine better you know the the uh vincent d'onofrio from men in black you know the giant the giant centipede alien goes inside his skin and then he's like jerking around all like i like that better because the jerky like broken motions represent what these institutions are becoming see that it's they're zombies of what they use because well uh so so yeah yeah if you if you were to say that like like uh i think what you said eric weinstein was saying that they're shells well that's assuming they're still moving around like regular hermit crabs but they're not they're they're grotesque weird bugs that are wearing the skin and like lurching around and they don't speak proper english right so when you see the guy edgar
Starting point is 00:20:01 and men in black and she's like edgar and he sugar water. You're like, that's not a normal human thing to ask for. Interesting. So when these institutions are like, yeah, wominks. Yeah, they're not speaking the same language anymore. Or the other thing is like there was a curriculum leak. I talked about this before where it asked a math question. But instead of being something about like the farmer has, you know, a dozen apples, how many apples you take away, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:20:22 It was like the police stop, you know, 1,300 black people and they only stopped to, you know, 246 white people. What percentage of, you know, the stops are black people. And it's like, they're injecting this racialized worldview. So, so anyway, here's the other thing. I think like the first one is maybe they're like destroying the system or the outcome is going to be destroyed system. Maybe they'll rebuild it. Not that they would destroy the institutions. It's the innards that are getting ripped to shreds, like the core structure, and they're occupying it like some kind of parasitic alien. The other thing is, also in that vein, it's about what their goal is. Is it Marxism or is it overt balkanization, racial segregation, and white supremacy? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I think it's, they're just trying to blur the boundaries between things so they can sort of assert what they want to assert at any given moment. It's, it sounds nuts, but I mean, it is nuts. That's kind of where they're going. So like they just want to permanently be able to control whatever they want by making up random BS? Well, when they look at the way society is structured, their worldview inherently puts power dynamics in everything. to control whatever they want by making up random BS? Well, when they look at the way society is structured,
Starting point is 00:21:28 their worldview inherently puts power dynamics in everything. And so they want to just blur these distinctions because every time there's a category that's made, it's not just a category. It's been made by someone in power to oppress some other person or idea or some group of people's being oppressed. And so they just want to disrupt all of these categories all the categories need to be blurred they need to be broken apart but why why create racial segregation like that's the other outcome i'm looking at if they're saying
Starting point is 00:21:58 that you know we're the university of michigan dearborn is going to do a white only cafe event and then they later apologize it was i'm sorry it was non-POC only which it means white only and they were like no no everyone was welcome but it was for it was for non-POC to share their non-POC feelings about how their non-POC community is being impacted and I'm like are there like Nazis running this with like a wink wink and a nudge nudge to their Nazi friends tricking the left into adopting these things so then we see the this there's a group of black people who got a sponsor they're buying up land in i believe in georgia near macomb i think it's pronounced and they want to create a town called freedom that is what they describe as pro-black which for the most part is black only but they say white people can apply to live there if they're pro-black. Rejected.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Well, so, look, I was reading the story. Actually, I find it kind of funny because I'm like, I can respect the pioneer attitude. We're going to go make our own city? I'm like, that's awesome. You know, we don't have anybody doing that anymore. Go do it. But to, like, racially segregate? I don't know about that, man. If you found
Starting point is 00:23:01 a country like the U.S. on freedom from religion and good values like that, go for it. But if your foundation is racial segregation, I mean, they're literally creating an ethnostate, and that's for some reason okay. That's not legal, is it? I can't imagine how it would be legal. But the thing is, who's going to step up and say, you can't do this because they'll be called. I'm going to get all political. If Joe Biden wins, right? up and say you can't do this because they'll be called i'm gonna get all political like if joe
Starting point is 00:23:25 biden wins right right so donald trump bans critical race theory right and that's that's the so i guess i guess the easy way to explain it is like you could argue that there's what is their critical gender theory gender studies colonial post-colonial theory well yeah one of them is critical race theory like these are the core tenants of the far left woke cult or whatever fan studies trump bans critical race theory and that is a major some people have said what like a shot across the bow like letting them know no no way he straight up took a push broom and shoved them right at the building and they got really mad about it the worst part was when when, like, CNN, for instance, defended critical race theory and white privilege training without actually knowing what any of it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I mean, you're seeing the way they talk about it shift in real time because critical race theory is sort of this obscure thing. Nobody knows what it is. Like, there's, I think if you probably look up critical race theory, people have just been Googling it nonstop now. But they're trying to reframe it as, like, no just racial sensitivity training right you know this is it's diversity training it's not the same thing like it's not a liberal approach towards racial issues whatsoever it sees race and everything i mean robin d'angelo specifically said things like it's not a question of whether race is is taking here. There's a racial issue. It's what is the racial component in there.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So it's just this nitpicking with every situation where you're just going to start seeing these phantoms of racism everywhere because you're told they're everywhere if you just squint hard enough and do the amount of rhetorical work. So that's why I feel like one of their goals might be that, listen, if you were a neo-Nazi, but a smart one, you know, and trying to figure out how to implement racial segregation, this is exactly what you would do. There's no other way to do it. You come out waving a Nazi flag, people are going to be like, get out, and they're going
Starting point is 00:25:21 to beat you up. There was that guy in, I think, Portland walking around wearing a Nazi armband. He got punched in the face. Yeah. Like they're not going to let you do it. If you see the list of what they have is what they consider to be white and Western includes things like rationality. Yeah. And I'm going down this list and it's like, who else would agree with everything on this list that is inherently white?
Starting point is 00:25:43 Probably every white supremacist knows that white supremacists are nodding their head being like yes rational thought is an inherently white thing hard work it's hard work like preparing for the future yeah for the future this is for them to take that and insist that this is somehow white and western i can't even imagine a more racist narrative that is gonna to, one, keep black people from probably wanting to participate in STEM in the first place if they're taught that going in the academy, going to academia is, you know, the master's house. And I've seen flyers that have talked about academia as being the master's house and we're going to give you tools
Starting point is 00:26:20 to survive your time in the master's house. What are the chances that someone who wants to be, a black guy who wants to be a scientist, and they're getting a flyer from one of these critical race theory meetings, and it just says, here's how to survive at the master's house. Are you going to want to go into STEM if it's portrayed as a battleground? If you're thinking like, oh, they're literally calling it going on the plantation. Like maybe I shouldn't go into STEM because this is how it's being portrayed. Or the,
Starting point is 00:26:50 or the threats that black conservatives get the insults, the, the, the cancel culture. It's like, if you, if Kanye West was speaking, wearing his body armor and he's crying,
Starting point is 00:27:01 talking about, you know, being pro-life and, and his daughter and abortion, all that stuff. And they attack him in the media saying he's unwell. you know being pro-life and and his daughter and abortion all stuff and they attack him in the media saying he's unwell and i'm like dude imagine how old is that guy do you know how old kanye is like 38 or something 38 yeah 38 38 or so years you go through your entire life being told you're not allowed to say what you believe is true or else and finally this dude gets the courage to go up and start saying all these things and he starts
Starting point is 00:27:22 crying and they attack him for it i'm not he's 43 i'm not surprised he's crying he's like all of these things he's always wanted to say but they were like don't say this or else and that's what they're trying to create so so i bring this up specifically because i'm wondering how it is that this is like this this weird ideology among the left has creeped in where acting, quote unquote, white is like a horrible thing you can't do. It's a slight against humanity. And then they go around claiming that all of these positive traits, which exist in like almost every other culture, are only white people. Yeah. I mean, you get people like Nicole Hannah-Jones that come out and they criticize people like Kanye on the basis that there's this difference here between being someone who happens to be black and someone
Starting point is 00:28:09 who's politically black. So Kanye isn't even considered capital B black. He's lowercase B black, but he's not capital B black. And if you look at all like the BLM flyers they put out, black is always capitalized. And that is just the dead giveaway that they're talking about politically black and not black as the color of your skin wow that's amazing i think it's funny that uh people were bringing up bipoc black indigenous and people of color and this is what i was told and you can let me know if you agree or not that they created this term specifically to remove asians because asians are. I haven't thought about that, but yeah. Have you seen the book In Defense of Looting? I've seen the cover and I've seen some articles written about it.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Apparently there's a passage, and this was going on, I think, was it Carlin who tweeted about this? Possibly, yeah. That it said that Jews and Asians are the face of capital or something like that. Oh, wow, yeah. Yeah, yeah sounds right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And so I got to say, man, when you put out a book called In Defense of Looting, it's written by a white person defending the looting that is destroying the black community. And you have in it a direct attack on Jews. I got to wonder. Dude, I really do think there's probably a bunch of white supremacists
Starting point is 00:29:28 and white nationalists who have backed away from Trump specifically because they're like, whoa, these these people over here giving us what we want. The real anti-Semites on this side. Yeah. Do you know Sargon of Akkad? Yeah. He did. Carl Benjamin. A long time ago, he said a long time ago he said that the this the sjws and the alt-right were like they completely agree with each other now they disagree on like positive and whether it's positive or negative the different things like uh like you might have the alt-right being racist you might have the the far left being racist in a kind of different way i guess they only disagree on whether or not white people are good or bad but they agree on literally everything else he was
Starting point is 00:30:08 like they should work together because then the the the far left is saying you know white people don't come here go your own space and the alt-right saying they want that too that's why i wonder if like the end goal of the critical race theory stuff is going to be racial segregation i mean it's already happening you're getting this type of segregation going on. Right, right, right. I mean, you get the Richard Spencers of the world, and he wants, you know, a white ethnostate. He might not even have to take steps to achieve what he wants.
Starting point is 00:30:33 He can just sit back and watch the critical race theorists make their own ethnostate and just absent themselves in a day of absence or, you know, eternity of absence or something. Have you seen the Onion article that was like, Al-Qaeda sits back and watches as America collapses? That could be it. Where did the alt-right go? They were so prominent.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Now they're gone. Yeah, they're kicking back on the couch being like, we don't got to do anything. In fact, speaking out was bad. Let them do it. And there you go. And they're going to get way more effectively because it's somehow this is underneath the radar and no one's standing up for it because
Starting point is 00:31:09 it's just it's using the right words yeah it's crazy i covered uh a bunch of the riots ferguson you know uh baltimore just all over the country and they had at many of these places black only rooms during occupy wall street they had like meeting groups these places, black only rooms. During Occupy Wall Street, they had like meeting groups. They called caucuses that had voting power and they were based on race. So you had working groups based on like if you do work, but then you had the racial component. So they quite literally created a system where they were like all of the Asian people come together and then they get to vote because they're Asian. And all of the black people and all of the Hispanic people. There wasn't one for white people, though, but that was supposed to be progressive.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And I was like, why are they segregating everybody? I wasn't aware that was a component of Occupy. I know that was like a Chaz Chop thing. They had a whole area where the only black people were allowed and they had white people guarding, acting as bouncers for this area yeah occupy wall street was my first uh first time encountering the i guess at the what we would call now critical race theory i just called it like woke progressivism i was involved in that too because i was at uc davis as an undergrad where they had that pepper spray and yeah you were there that was right when i was walking to my other class it was the famous photo i was there during the whole katahi walk
Starting point is 00:32:25 out and everything in the and you were you were firmly on the left weren't you i was yeah i still consider myself on the left but but but now you're in a bad fascist i'm kidding i'm kidding according to some people i'm not i get a lot of people that are trying to recruit me over to the right but uh well i don't even know what it means anymore so yeah i just i'm just gonna believe what i believe and support what i support and i don't i don't either but what it means anymore. So I just, I'm just going to believe what I believe and support what I support. And I don't, I don't either, but however people want to classify me, they're free to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:48 It's, it's kind of crazy. I mentioned it earlier, how we both had very left positions a long time ago, but now we've been basically like, I'm going to go over here. Cause y'all are getting crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:58 You're going to burn the building down. They're riding in the streets. This is the craziest thing to me. Joe Biden came out what, 12 hours? What? Like, no, like 16, 17 hours ago saying, you know, basically ban assault weapons and high capacity magazines. And I'm like, why would he say that at a time when mass riding like race riots are sweeping across the country and gun sales are through the roof? Ammo is gone. And Joe Biden's like, all you people who just went out for the first time, bought a weapon because you're scared.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I'm taking your guns. It's not good messaging, especially now. Yeah. What do you think about guns? Were you? I'm pro gun. Were you always pro gun? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I mean, my family had grown up. We have guns in our house, but I'm sort of for the universal background checks and everything that's needed. I don't think you should just be able to walk in to a Walmart and and walk out you know with one although i do hear it's not quite that easy because yeah some people try to do that and just to like prove the system of how easy it was to get a gun and then they realize like no i actually have to come back later and get one so i don't know how i know different states differ on their laws but i do think you should maybe go through some sort of safety training before you can have a firearm but uh i'm i i i'm getting less and less uh on a stickler about that now because again all the violence we see in a lot and and remarkably
Starting point is 00:34:14 joe biden's campaign kamala harris supporting the riders with bailing them out and then saying we're going to take your guns away to time when the when the left is calling for defunding the police now joe biden can say he's not for that but a major like black lives matter has defund the police as a core mission statement and he certainly supports them and didn't you have that couple that was outside of their house with the the guns guarding their place oh yeah felony charges didn't their guns get confiscated didn't they get them away yep yeah they want you to be defenseless it's it's so it's so hilarious to like hear the words come out of my mouth because like I just think back to the, you know, the conservatives 10 years ago. The liberals hate America. They want you to be defenseless. And now here I am like these crazy leftists hate this country and they're taking my guns.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I'm getting I'm like, wow, how did they do that to me? It's remarkable. No, I feel I remember when I was younger and I was thinking about politics and I was like, I got to remember where my grounding is and like what I believe in. And that was like I was watching a lot of freedom stuff, like libertarian stuff on the Internet, talking about what the Constitution was supposed to do and where we've gone. And it was like like Ron Paul. The Ron Paul era online was huge. And so I didn't agree with Ron Paul on a lot of issues because he was very religious and conservative in some respects. But from a liberty standpoint, I was like, yeah, freedom. Let me do my thing.
Starting point is 00:35:32 But I was fairly liberal. And here I am today being like, you know, I lived in Miami and we had someone break onto the property. And I only had an air rifle, a break barrel. Break it and you can fire a pellet. And I was like, I didn't feel like dealing with getting a gun or wanting to deal with any of that stuff, so I didn't get it, even after someone broke into my property.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Widespread rioting. Nationwide racialized riots is probably the better way to put it. I don't think they're race riots because it's white, you know, woke progressives that are doing most of the destruction or whatever. But I'm not going to sit around and wait to find out especially because you see a lot of them now moving into residential neighborhoods and i saw videos of people climbing
Starting point is 00:36:16 on the roofs of houses just in in you know residential areas upper class neighborhoods people are going to get shot like it's, it's going to happen at some point. People got shot. Is that something recently happened? No, I'm just, like, Kenosha. Well, yeah, that was in, like, the street violence I'm talking about. In neighborhoods now, people are going to start knocking on doors. I don't think they're going to knock.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Yeah, probably not. I think they're going to be like, this is where the bigot lives, and they're going to kick the door in. Well, you look at what happened to mayor ted wheeler uh his condo you saw that when they they smashed up the first floor through flaming debris or whatever on the first floor and fortunately that was like commercial at the bottom but it's only a matter of time in my opinion before they go to like residential homes and it's the craziest thing because i think all of the violence and destruction plays into the idea i was saying earlier about this critical race theory and how it's
Starting point is 00:37:07 only real goal is the complete destruction of the system, I guess. I think that all they want is power. I literally think that's all they want and I think it's a case of the dog chasing the car and not knowing what he'd do if he caught it because I think they want power they think they have this idea
Starting point is 00:37:23 of utopia and they're like, well, we'll just get in charge and everything will be perfect and they have no idea like i think that's that power because it's their end goal they're not actually thinking any further and all they want is just to get there well they make this they make this error that they think the power exists in every single sentence every single en, any discourse that you have, which I would say is not the case. You're not always inflicting power on people by the way you speak. Right. And so since they think that this is just the way reality is, then they just say, okay, everyone else is using these power games. We're going to use these power games too. And then they just double down on it 100%. And now they're doing the thing that they're accusing everyone of doing. Yeah. That and it's like no you're actually the only one that's doing this no one
Starting point is 00:38:08 else is doing this i mean there's some people probably doing these power games but not as like a tenant of their their whole politics is based on it well let's talk about gender because uh you uh you studied insects i guess right i did insect evolutionary biology social behavior animal personality yeah did that include studying the like behavior of the different sexes and like mating rituals and stuff not so much so I studied social spiders mainly for my dissertation and their colonies were almost entirely female there's like a 10 to 1 male to female well so so ratio so anyway you're you're you have a PhD, right? Yeah. Okay, we'll just ignore everything else and we'll just say PhD from now on,
Starting point is 00:38:47 everything you say is academic, boom, expert. He's got a PhD, therefore listen to what he has to say. Yeah, exactly. But no, no, I think we can talk about the gender thing too because now it's not just about race. They do the exact same thing to gender. They've taken the word gender and they've beaten it to a point where it's unrecognizable.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And I don't even know what they're trying to say anymore. Because at first they said that, oh, no, no, no, gender and sex are different things. You know, sex is biology. But gender is social construct. Now they're saying there's no biological sex. I mean, they've been saying that for years, but, you know, that's where we've gotten. Yeah. I mean, those are like the second wave feminists who are they wanted to deconstruct gender as like the social construction that keeps males and females playing these certain roles in society.
Starting point is 00:39:32 But they definitely wanted to keep a very strong notion of biological sex because sex was the the object. It was the physical entity that people are identified that you can use to then discriminate people. You know, people are discriminated against because of the perceived sex that they are. And this was something that, you know, the second wave feminists were very aware of. But now we see this like third wave intersectional feminism where they're blurring the boundaries between sex and gender. They're the same thing or they're different depending on the context and how they want to win an argument right? and they've completely decentered biological sex from the talk of women's rights, so now we can't even talk about the
Starting point is 00:40:14 Actual basis of the oppression of certain individuals based on their sex because now it's just a state of mind But you know for all you know I could be gender fluid I could be going back and forth between male and female in my mind well in the first segment you were a dude then you were a woman now you're back to being a dude i mean i just switched again yeah so uh you know but there's nothing that changes physically about me you can't see it and so the idea that we can actually that we should be centering a state of your mind of how you feel about yourself in relation to your body as the object of of oppression just makes absolutely no sense i think you said something they want to win an
Starting point is 00:40:50 argument it's almost like they're toddlers you know like their their their their their mental maturity is that of a seven-year-old who's like no you're dumb no i'm smart that's racist no you're not allowed to say it uh-uh yeah that's how that's how it manifests itself is very, I mean, they have so much snark in their arguments. It's just they get brownie points for how snarky they are. But it also boils down to sort of this, what would I call it, gender critical theory. Mainly queer theory is what they're using to just try to blur the boundaries between male and female because again you can kind of keep going back and you see these certain themes they think that there's power dynamics just by the fact that you're categorizing things
Starting point is 00:41:33 male and female are these real entities well no these are just a you know white western notion of how you know people try to oppress certain groups by maintaining these binaries and forcing people into them so that's that's sort of where we are right now in terms of third-wave feminism and gender and sex. I think we may be reaching a point where I don't know if the critical gender theory people can actually pass this. And it is, you think they'll be able to just keep going and doing whatever they want? I don't think so. Because it's one of those things i mean i've said it before that this is one of the last tests for for reality it's like reality's last stand in a way if we can if we can convince a large swath of america or humanity that there's no such thing as male and female then you can just maybe roll ahead and get anything you want
Starting point is 00:42:21 in there because yeah it's one of the most things that i think well luckily almost everyone who's not super woke leftist realizes that male and female are different almost everyone on the right is going to acknowledge the fact that males and females are real and different probably most people on the left as well especially in the realm of sports i think that's where it's gonna really show man i look i look at like the younger generation and there's like uh a left-wing meme that mocks the the rights fifth grade 20 year old understanding of biology and the the the angle they're taking is science is supposed to change because we learn more and we heard it from bill nye on netflix we learned a whole lot. Now it's a spectrum. There's not male and female.
Starting point is 00:43:07 It's like male, female, male, you know, just like weird gradient between the two, huh? I was going to say, I think we're reaching a point where there's going to be systems in place that are going to be very difficult to overcome. So one example, Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a structure. It functions in a specific way. You can't use many of these broken definitions because you need to be able to say word means
Starting point is 00:43:34 this and link to another word. And it has to be a, it's basically like you're looking at an actual structure of a building. You can't just randomly place things, the building won't stand. If the building is already there, you can't move blocks out. So I'll give you an example. This is the Wikipedia page for woman. A woman is an adult female human. End of story. What's a female? Well, female is specifically defined as it is the sex of an organism or part of an organism that produces non-mobile ova, egg cells. Barring rare medical conditions, most female mammals, including humans, have two X chromosomes. So Wikipedia, you can't just go and look. They even locked the page.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Isn't this crazy? It's semi-protected. Probably because people... I'm sure it's getting bombarded. Yep, trying to change it. Here's the problem. Ask any one of these critical gender theorists. What's a defined woman? Oh, they can these critical gender theorists, define woman.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Oh, they can't do it. Right, because woman is adult human female. What would they say it is? They would say a woman is anyone who lives and identifies as a woman. And then when you drill down on that, well, how does a woman live and identify? Well, then they just get into certain stereotypes of masculinity and femininity. And then all of a sudden, they'll insist that they're not, it's not based on stereotypes. Whenever you drill down on saying like, what do you, how, what does it mean to live as
Starting point is 00:44:51 one? What does it mean to identify as one or express yourself as one? It boils down to stereotypes. This is what progressive conservative stereotypes of them. It's backwards. Interesting. This is why I think a lot of, so a lot of what we see i was reading about rapid onset gender dysphoria you're familiar with this oh yeah and they there was one study i was
Starting point is 00:45:12 reading i think it got pulled actually i'm not sure that it said that like a litman's paper i don't know which one but they said 85 percent of trans children are female to male did you read that yeah is this just i'm gonna say it internal? Yeah. Is this just, I'm going to say it, internalized misogyny? Because here's what I got to say. They talk about stereotypes, right? That, you know, a woman can look wherever she wants, right? Some women have facial hair, it just happens, and they're still women, right? And so you have a bunch of young women who are calling themselves male names, dressing in male stereotypical ways, almost like a caricature of a man. And I wonder if they just hate women and they hate womanhood.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And it's not about being trans or non-binary. It's about literally just hating femininity and loving masculinity. I think there's some of that. I mean, if you're going to define gender identity, ultimately boils down to differences in stereotypes. Then you get to this point where you have children growing up they're told these ideas that being a man or woman or even male or female because these are the same thing now uh is based on gender stereotypes now you got get a
Starting point is 00:46:16 tomboy who has more male typical behaviors like to hang out with boys like rough and tumble play all that stuff now suddenly they're questioning their gender identity now suddenly they think well i'm i have these i'm more stereotypically male on my behaviors and then some of this gender theory tells them that you might be a boy quite i mean nowadays they're saying you are you are yeah or at least you're highly suspect so you get a lot of lesbians who also are very much correlated with gender atypical behavior, more male-like behavior. And so you're basically getting the situation where you have a lot of young lesbians showing up to these gender clinics that are saying that, I think I'm a boy because I have, and they list all these male typical behaviors. And then in some
Starting point is 00:47:00 states you can just, you know, you can get your puberty blockers or your hormones right across the, right over the counter. So the Wikipedia thing is really interesting to me because right now there's a debate, right? They say, well, you call whatever you want. Trans women are women, right? That's what the left says. Not according to Wikipedia. According to Wikipedia, because you have to have clear definitions of what both of those things are. So when you're talking about someone who is assigned male at birth and then identifies as female and undergoes transition, that is classified on Wikipedia as trans woman.
Starting point is 00:47:37 So if you ask these people, they'll say, no, that's a woman. I'm sorry. Woman is defined on Wikipedia as an adult human female, meaning they produce, barring rare medical conditions. I'm actually shocked that Wikipedia hasn't been corrupted. I would expect that to... I don't think it can. That's the problem. That's where I think the wall is being hit.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Because you can't have one word linked to two articles. So how does the system function? Logical consistency is not their strong suit. Exactly. I imagine they might not care at some point. Well, no, that's not the issue. The issue is Wikipedia is a digital structure. Logical consistency is mandatory for its function
Starting point is 00:48:11 to a certain degree. They could probably create a hybrid article and say a woman is anyone who claims to be a woman, but then what's female? But then because they have to address the idea of male and female, but they're already arguing it doesn't exist. How will that impact plants and insects, for instance?
Starting point is 00:48:27 Yeah. Well, we have very, very like we were talking about this before the show, the angler fish. Right. So I didn't realize it was the angler. They're the ones with the weird little doodads on their heads. That's so funny. They have like lights on their faces or whatever. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:48:39 So basically, the female is massive and nasty looking. Yeah. And the male is a little nasty looking thing. And it latches to the female. Bites them. And then just becomes a permanent attachment to the female. So weird. And then just deposits, you know, sperm and stuff into the female.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Constantly. Constantly. Okay. Okay. So when you see that biological sex literally exists in nature very obviously. So there's a clash then on personal identity if they try and go into wikipedia and change female and male because they want to get rid of it that would shatter the the that would shatter the systems already created around our mapping of
Starting point is 00:49:16 biology it can't humanity is tied to the animal kingdom you can't just claim male and female doesn't don't exist because we can see it expressed in ridiculous ways across the animal kingdom i mean cardinals for instance you have the bright red cardinal and then the little tinted red female yeah yeah you have this conflation among the activists where they try to look at they conflate sexual dimorphism which is you know different features that males and females have with sex itself okay so if you were to look at something like the gender bread person that they have. What is the gender bread person? It's this poster that they have in certain schools.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I've heard that it's even being used in some college courses in gender studies, where it lists basically it has this gender bread, gingerbread person. Gingerbread person. And then it labels all the different, it highlights different areas on the body. It'll be like gender and it'll have it in their head, like how you identify. Then it has a little box that says biological sex
Starting point is 00:50:15 and it's pointing to the crotch of the gingerbread person. And in that crotch area where it breaks down biological sex, it will list things like voice pitch body hair things like that well these have nothing actually to do with your act what sex you are so the biggest conflation is conflating primary sexual characteristics with secondary ones they'll try to say that if you are an individual you have a beard and you have you know more upper body strength and you have a deep voice they're trying to say that you're actually more male if you have those traits, even if you're biologically a female. So I use an analogy that it's like bikers and cyclists.
Starting point is 00:50:56 If you define a biker as someone who rides a motorcycle and a cyclist as someone who rides a bicycle, these are two different types of vehicles. They're very different. One's motorized, has gas. One's you pedal. But then you can also say, well, what are the secondary traits of bikers and cyclists? And the secondary trait of a biker would be leather pants,
Starting point is 00:51:21 skull tattoos, bandanas, smoking cigarettes, whatever, all those things. And you look at cyclists and their secondary characteristics are a spandex bodysuit and those weird helmets weird helmets you know probably more clean shaven they shave their whole body vegan or whatever you do like these are vegan i'm not sure that one makes sense like those are like secondary traits that are associated with being cyclists and bikers but if you were to have someone riding a motorcycle who's wearing a spandex bodysuit and you know all the stuff a cyclist typically wears, they wouldn't magically become a cyclist. They would still be a biker because they're riding a bicycle. That's a good way to put it. You can have the secondary sex characteristics of males or females.
Starting point is 00:51:57 That doesn't have anything to say about what your actual biological sex is, which has to do with what is the reproductive anatomy that you have? What has it been organized around the production of sperm or ova? You don't actually have to make sperm or ova to be a male or female. But what is your reproductive anatomy? How is it developed? What is it centered around the production? I like that. So all that stuff in mind, how do you take the existing scientific infrastructure
Starting point is 00:52:26 and, I mean, Wikipedia is a great example, specifically because you click words to link to articles. If you can't change the article and have one word mean two things, that's a key component of the critical race theorists, of the critical gender theorists, is having one word mean
Starting point is 00:52:41 multiple things at the same time. Yeah, well, they're against any categorization whatsoever. So Wikipedia's just got to go. So Wikipedia would probably make their own Wokipedia or something. Wokipedia. Ooh, that's a good one. That'd be a funny one to make. We should get that domain.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Seriously. Someone just bought it. Why'd you say that? Wokipedia. That's all right. Someone probably got it already. But you could do all satire and like... Actually, no.
Starting point is 00:53:03 You could actually break down the absurdity of their beliefs. In a a way that's kind of what james lindsey's new discourses is it's basically well he calls it translations from the woke ish oh yeah yeah it's basically wokipedia yeah so i i've seen um i think it was uh heather haying and brett weinstein talk about this they like that sex is bimodal. Have you heard that? I've heard that. I don't agree with that statement. But what they often show when they say that is that,
Starting point is 00:53:32 you know, 99% of males and females fall within a very specific range. But there is an extreme that slightly cross each other in terms of like estrogen or testosterone or masculinity or femininity they don't connect though so the idea is you can have a male who is more stereotypically female
Starting point is 00:53:53 and effeminate than the average female but still be producing sperm and being male they don't connect they are just two different independent trees that can surpass each other on a scale of feminine femininity to masculinity. But what the left does is they say it's a spectrum and they connect to them. So as though that at some point you actually switch to the other side and your body starts producing the other, you know. Yeah. So if you're looking at like the secondary sex characteristics, like breast size and facial hair and body weight or whatever those are very bimodal like they're correlated with sex but they're not definitional and of sex
Starting point is 00:54:29 but then there's this other structure underneath of sex which is basically the binary male or female even though these secondary traits can sort of map on over the top of that I usually use it as like I could do like a coin flip analogy because you know you have heads and tails on a coin. About one out of every 6,000 flips with a nickel will land on its edge. Is that true? Yeah. 6,000?
Starting point is 00:54:52 I have a study. Wow. It'll land on its edge. And that's almost the exact same rate of intersex individuals that are in the population that have somewhat ambiguous genitalia that might not be easily classifiable as male or female. Not always, but sometimes it can be pretty ambiguous so what a lot of the trans activists try to say is the existence of these intersex individuals these one out of five or six thousand individuals they're calling to the into question the existence of males or females well that's kind of like saying
Starting point is 00:55:20 that just because a coin can land on its edge that means that heads and tails are not real discrete outcomes so right male and female they're discrete outcomes you're if you're a male you're just as much as male as a male who's got a weaker beard who's not as tall who's got a you know high voice there's not like more or less male there you're just it's it's a discrete category even though we can acknowledge that there is an edge. Someone might land on the edge where they could have ovo testes. They might not be there infertile. They don't produce either sperm or ova.
Starting point is 00:55:52 They have ambiguous genitalia. And who's going to say whether this individual's male or female? I don't think maybe in some instances you can't quite assign them to or categorize them to one sex it's one of the things they actually bring up because there are some people who are intersex who look like they're male or look like they're female but they're intersex yeah there's a bunch of different you know most intersex conditions are sex specific um which a lot of people don't tend to realize like what do you mean by that so like um let's say like castor simenya for instance what he has a um a condition called 5 ard which he has uh basically okay who is she oh she's the uh south african um runner basically the olympic runner and she's recently been banned from competing in the olympic in some in some events
Starting point is 00:56:37 because uh she was you know it's the assigned female at birth but she has a condition that basically make it so your male genitals don't develop when you're in utero so you're basically born and you can look your genitals can look stereotypically all female to sometimes they can also look male depending on how severe your case is and so she was presumably has more feminine looking genitalia because she was marked down as female at birth. But her condition is a condition that only affects biological males. So she has interesting. She's X, Y. She has internal testes. That's why her testosterone level is so high that she can't compete in these leagues.
Starting point is 00:57:18 They have certain rules for athletes who have her specific condition. But did they used to like they didn't use them they just be like you look like a woman congratulations you can run yeah i mean there's a whole history of of how people were banned and kept out of certain categories for the you know the woman's category and there's some horror stories of you know what people were subject to back in the day as well but um people try to make make it they say that simenia's you know she's a woman she's a female that's what people say but no one ever really brings up the fact that simenia is actually xy and has testes um is it is it fair to say biologically male in that capacity or is it
Starting point is 00:57:56 i would say biologically male um interesting people with her condition have fathered children before so if that puts it into perspective well the only thing that really matters is everyone is deserving of the same equal rights under the constitution in our country and and human rights in the world period and i think that's that's one of the things they try to use to make it seem like conversations like this are meant to attack an individual's rights or anything like that and it's not but they but we we have we have sex-specific categories in sports for a reason, right? I mean, of course we do. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I'm sorry. I heard this. I don't know if this is true. I think it is. There's no rule keeping women out of the NFL or the NBA or the MLB. Yes. A common misconception is that these leagues are male-only leagues, but they're actually open to anyone who wants to be in them.
Starting point is 00:58:45 So the fact that you don't have any females. So they're sexist. Yeah. They're keeping the women out on purpose. I mean, a lot of people would actually make that argument. Sorry. I don't mean to interrupt. Can we adjust his volume a little bit more?
Starting point is 00:58:54 Yeah. I can try to go closer. Yeah. So, yeah. Anybody we've seen some women try and compete in the NFL, like to try out for it, I should say as kickers. And there's been a couple, I think we've gotten close, but there's no women in major league sports,
Starting point is 00:59:10 even though it's open to them. Yeah. I mean, it's the gap is so huge and it's all part of the, the push to get trans athletes or to get males, to be able to compete against females. It all comes back to the language game they play, which is actually the most horrifying part because they've realized that you don't actually need to
Starting point is 00:59:28 change laws in order to get them uh i guess expressed differently and forced differently if you just change the language exactly so we have leagues like the wnba or women's women's sports women's categories but if you define redefine what a woman is to be not adult human female but to be anyone who identifies as a woman then all of a sudden you can have people saying you know if and if you're chanting the mantra that trans women are women full stop then well why can't a trans woman play in the women's category so we need to try to say and call the what we should be doing is calling them female sports. But then of course they'll come after the word female.
Starting point is 01:00:08 There they are. I mean, they are. Biological sex doesn't exist. They've been saying that for years now. And they'll point to overlap between males and females saying that like, not every, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:18 some females can compete against some males. I was like, well, if we're talking about the elite of elite athletes, we're not talking about the center of the bell curves where there's some overlap and ability if we're sampling the 0.01 percent of elite athletes it's entirely dominated by males yeah this is this is something really interesting that i had talked about before in terms of like why don't we see women at the top of like ceo positions or in in major league sports and things like that the the the there's
Starting point is 01:00:46 a bunch of sports i should well you know intelligence based like strategic games games like chess obviously and you don't see a lot of women at the top of these things and there's uh are you familiar with the the you probably have the greater male variability hypothesis yeah so there are there are more male idiots and more male geniuses and women tend to be closer to average so if that's true that means you got a ton of really dumb guys and that's unfortunate for those guys and for the women have to deal with them but then you also have a certain uh a certain factor more of genius men versus genius women so then if you have i don't know don't know what the proportion is to you know how many do you actually do you know how many genius men versus genius women. So then if you have, I don't know what the proportion is to,
Starting point is 01:01:26 actually, do you know how many genius men to genius women? I'm not sure. I know as you get further to the tail ends of the distribution, the proportion of male to female goes up. Yeah, it's rather extreme. So it was interesting because
Starting point is 01:01:41 based on the greater male variability hypothesis, there are more women than men who are average of average capability intelligence. And I was also reading another study. It was very interesting. SAT scores align similarly to the greater male variability hypothesis in terms of intelligence. So if you have for every eight male geniuses, two female geniuses, then don't be surprised if you have 80 male CEOs and 20 females or even less. Because what happens is if you have a million people, now you're getting, it's just disproportionately becoming more and more male geniuses that have to compete for the same space. And it's just harder for everybody. But if you look at our society with
Starting point is 01:02:21 328 million people and whatever the proportion is, let's say you have, you know, 10 million geniuses and only a million are female. That means a woman has a one out of 10 chance of getting that job, which means more often than not won't get it. And you'll see a lot more men as CEOs, a lot more men in higher ranking positions in general. Yeah. And this is what the whole diversity, equity, and inclusion is trying to undermine, basically, because they just look at the outcomes, the disparate outcomes that we have, and they assume that there must be some structural problem there keeping females out of these certain fields. Because everything's a social construct, therefore. Yes, I mean, that's where they're coming from. We have this concept in science, you've almost certainly heard it that correlation doesn't equal causation. We're taught that first, you know, first day of intro bio or intro science class. But something that's not really taught that should be is that disparity does not equal discrimination.. Because if you just look at the different backgrounds of certain white Americans,
Starting point is 01:03:27 like French Americans versus Russian Americans, you have differences in their average income. It's pretty large. Are we really going to say that there's some structural discrimination against Russian Americans and things like that? So, yeah. Russophobe. We need to look at what I call
Starting point is 01:03:45 a multivariate analysis. Whenever you're looking at the differences in outcomes, you can't just stop at the difference of outcome. You need to go and look at other variables. How many individuals are majoring in this in school? How many, you know, are there differences in just preferences going up? Once you control for these variables,
Starting point is 01:04:02 you usually find out that, well, the disparity at the end is kind of what we would predict based on, you usually find out that, well, the disparity at the end is kind of what we would predict based on, you know, sex-related proclivities and it was just randomness. I mean, randomness can produce unequal outcomes all the time. Get like a random number generator. It's going to give you a different number every time you do it. So you made an interesting point about, you know, France versus Russia. And I remember reading something interesting about France. You know, they smoke a lot. I don't know if they smoke as much as they used to, but that was like a trope.
Starting point is 01:04:30 And they drink a lot of red wine, as does Italy. And there are studies that track them and found lower rates of, say, like heart disease or things like that. And I wonder if, you know, these things are typically associated with being bad for you, you know, drinking too much alcohol. I wonder if there's certain characteristics that are developed over time in different, you know, cultures or I guess, what would you call it? Like the French people, meaning that they have over time developed certain characteristics based on genetics. You know what I'm trying to say? Like that red wine might benefit people of France, but not people of say South Korea. Is that, is that a possibility? So like an actual genetic evolution that's creating these, that's not just a cultural difference maybe? Right. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, one example is I've often been told that I don't do dairy well because
Starting point is 01:05:20 I'm part Korean and South and, and, and Southeast Asians didn't have a lot of dairy in their diet. So they did not. So, so they're less likely to produce the lactase enzyme. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that there's definitely some like human diversity that's of that nature. It's hard to know if it could go back as recent as like wine drinking or something like that, because it's new. It's pretty new. And you'd have to take a lot to be some some directional selection for that to be those types of cultural differences. But I do think one thing that we need to be focusing on that a lot of people don't like to talk about is cultural differences that can create these different outcomes and different preferences
Starting point is 01:05:55 with individuals and populations, what to do in their lives. I mean, you do get, I mean, some stereotypes are on average true to some degree i know a lot of people who had asian backgrounds and their families are very much focused on education i can't cultural thing yeah i can't tell you how many black friends that i've had who've told me that when they're growing up they were interested in going into into stem they all have the exact same story they were told that they're acting white they were made fun of they were discouraged from going into these fields and i think that's something that they don't allow us to talk about these cultural differences, but they absolutely matter. And I think that that is
Starting point is 01:06:34 something that needs to be put on the table, but they don't want on the table because that's sort of seen as putting blame on the groups that are, that are doing this, but it's, you can't look past that. I heard, I read this somewhere. Maybe, maybe it's you can't look past that i heard i i read this somewhere maybe maybe it's not true that uh there's a disproportionate amount of asian doctors and i think that's true yeah have you have you heard that what's that a disproportionate amount of asian doctors i believe this to be the case and i do not believe that is because of uh what is it called racism no it's not benevolent racism no no yeah yeah it's benevolent racism where they accept more of them because they're smarter no do you know what it's called um affirmative action
Starting point is 01:07:10 oh yeah yeah yeah right well no affirmative action seems to actually be a detriment to to asian people but i i think you know it's really funny um i love this joke i was talking to some friends and i mentioned we were talking about youtube demonetization. You know, all the channels are getting their little yellow icons. You can't make money anymore. And there was a big trend where people are like, it's political. You know, they're censoring, you know, people challenging the establishment. And I was talking to a friend and I said, I don't think that's true because my mom makes math videos and her math videos get demonetized.
Starting point is 01:07:39 And then one friend said, I think it's funny that your mom, your Korean mom does math tutorial videos. And I immediately started laughing. I thought it was hilarious. And I texted her right away like, ah, and she laughed I think it's funny that your Korean mom does math tutorial videos. And I immediately started laughing. I thought it was hilarious. And I texted her right away, like, ah, and she laughed too because it is funny. And I'm like, how did that happen? Like, what are you doing? It's just, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:53 It's remnants of the culture, I think, that mattered. And to my mom, it was cultural. There's no, like, genetic predisposition to be like, go study. I think it came from, you know, her parents and their parents before her parents and things like that. And that carries on. It has a huge impact on me because then I grew up with a mom who was like, I'm going to teach you how to do all these things very early. And you're going to be really good at math. And it really did help.
Starting point is 01:08:20 And then I stopped going to high school and started focusing more on human and social behavior stuff. And I did nonprofit fundraising for, you know, for various nonprofits, obviously. I think it's actually encouraging to know that something like culture could be playing such a big role because culture changes. It changes very quickly. You know, it would be a much worse situation if these were actually due to, you know, fundamental biological differences between certain ethnic groups. That would be a terrible situation to be in. You know, I know that's not the case because I had a bunch of Asian friends growing up who are potheads who couldn't add two plus two.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Dumb as a box of rocks. And I'm like, that proves it to me. It's not race. They're just layabout stoners and people who choose to do hard work can succeed. That's actually kind of encouraging to me because my take on the cultural differences is that you can't change culture like you can't involuntarily change it i guess it has to be something that people do for themselves so it's always kind of deject caused me to be a little bit dejected about it because i'm like how
Starting point is 01:09:19 do you change what people think and how they view things like it's going to be a generational thing i mean the culture is not gonna you can't just like to have someone give up their culture so it's going to be a generational thing but at least it's faster than other processes that could be happening so that's why i think these far leftists are actually fascistic nazi-esque types i'm being i'm exaggerating a little bit but what i mean mean is the end result of what they're doing is the preservation of individual cultures. Like you can't wear someone else's robe or whatever, right? You wear the wrong Chinese dress? Canceler.
Starting point is 01:09:55 You can't do it. It's not allowed. Dreadlocks? You got to go. And so what they're doing is with segregation, they're also doing cultural enforcement. Everybody must remain the perfect stereotype of their culture based on the color of their skin. And that is the way it will always be. And they'll even create white only spaces. You know, what's going to what's actually going to change the discrimination
Starting point is 01:10:15 and bring people together is literally people just living near each other and sharing each other's culture. We've been doing that for a long time. It's been kind of awesome. You know, we can we can have movies where you have different people playing different you know uh characters different backgrounds you can have white people you know dressing up in ninja outfits and whatever and it was just like you know whatever we we we share and we exchange culture and now it's all being reversed yeah they allow the cultures to bleed one direction you you know, like other marginalized communities can take on the culture of, you know, quote unquote, dominant groups. western male whatever uh background to appropriate culture that's why cultural appropriation is considered such a a taboo thing because it's basically taking the voice away from uh colonial people who've been colonized basically it's really interesting how i hear this a lot that uh
Starting point is 01:11:17 i was talking about anti-racism trying to explain to people that there's racism there's on one side, you have racism. Then in the middle, you have not racist. And then on the other side, you have anti-racism. Anti-racism and racism agree on many of the same constructs. They just disagree on who should benefit from them, I guess. Actually, it doesn't really make sense because anyone can be racist. But in the anti-racist worldview, like the Ibrahim X. Kendi guy, he views it as racists and anti-racist worldview like uh the Ibrahim X Kendi guy he views it as racists and anti-racists agree on the exact same things except who should be benefiting the most from it and so I think we you know we we want to be not racist I mean we've been doing really really well for a long time but now they're recreating all the identical systems and under
Starting point is 01:12:00 the guise of getting rid of them the one thing I find truly fascinating about it is if you compare what they're saying now to, say, the dream of Martin Luther King Jr., it's completely at odds with everything he said. So it's the weirdest thing to me when I see people holding up signs at protests referencing Martin Luther King Jr., and I'm like, but you don't agree with him. You disagree with him.
Starting point is 01:12:22 It's gone completely the other direction, yeah. I don't know if you saw Martin Luther King's is it his living daughter she had a post on his niece okay she had a post that she did on Twitter I just couldn't believe it it was a picture of a young black man holding a sign what are the signs say it said like dear white people stop using Martin Luther King to further your agenda you know you killed him too yeah yeah yeah and that was just the most shocking thing because as people rightfully commented like i would like to be judged by the content of my character rather than the color of my skin it was the poster being held was doing
Starting point is 01:13:01 exactly the opposite of what mart Luther King suggests we do. Dear white people, that's just group blame. That's original sin for an entire group of people. That's the exact opposite of what the civil rights movement was based on. So my prediction, I guess, is the Olympics will be a whole bunch of men, biological males. Well, according to Wikipedia, men, adult human males. There will be... Actually, you know what? We'll go into this because
Starting point is 01:13:25 this is like it's a weird it's a weird thought the olympics allowing you know male individuals to compete in the women's division won't that just over time create two divisions the men's and the trans women's division i mean basically it depends on if they want to just well over time yeah i mean basically because the women's division will essentially just be dominated by males. Yeah. A lot of these trans activists in sports, though, they don't even want to have these different categories. There's a movement to just eliminate the categories and base it on just like weight or something like that, which would still eliminate female sports because even controlling for weight at every stage of the qualifying, it's much more dominated by males at every weight class.
Starting point is 01:14:11 You know, I learned this, I think it was like a year or so ago. I was doing an interview with Dr. Deborah So. And in the course of the research for the segment, we did like a 10-minute interview, and then we put together sources and context in between some of the things she was saying. I didn't know this, but it wasn't until I think the early 90s. We when we did clinical trials for drugs, we didn't include women. It was just men. And so surprise, surprise, some drugs weren't working on women because women have different bodies. And so I think one of the big one of the big issues was painkillers for instance men and women react differently to different medications it wasn't until the 90s when we were like hey
Starting point is 01:14:51 wait a minute we might have to do clinical trials for men and women yeah that's a good argument for things like well if you if i wanted to steal man something like feminist studies or whatever in medicine i would point to things like that where it's like yeah we need to look at you know the if I wanted to steal man something like feminist studies or whatever in medicine, I would point to things like that where it's just like, yeah, we need to look at, you know, the female aspect of things was not emphasized quite as much. And it's good that we can look at that. And maybe it's good to have, you know, people who are looking at it with an eye for these sort of types of discrimination that maybe a bunch of guys would just kind of look past.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Yeah. But you see a new movement now that's basically claiming that there's something called feminist science that is distinct from normal science and can only be done by females, which gets rid of the whole universality of knowledge. And, you know, if you're going to get a different result based on your biological sex,
Starting point is 01:15:42 then this isn't science, this is just politics. I love it when they say things like two plus two doesn't equal four because who made that up? And there's a viral video where it's a Black Lives Matter activist saying something like, so what, some white guy in Europe said four
Starting point is 01:15:57 and all of a sudden everyone just says, okay, that's ridiculous. And it's like, actually, no, I think it was the Middle East. We use Arabic numerals, but it was multiple cultures coming with the concepts of numbers. Yeah. Well, that's where they go, man. And you know what's really interesting is when I bring up that we finally realized we need to do clinical trials on women, that's a good thing. And that's a representation, you mentioned this, of feminist studies or
Starting point is 01:16:26 whatever in a positive sense, that there was a point where it was kind of like, hey, wait a minute, I just realized something. If we have a bunch of just one group of people from the same town, from the same school, all sitting in a room, and they haven't been exposed to other parts of the world and different experiences, there's a lot they don't know. And that's diversity of opinion, diversity of thought. So you end up saying, you know what would really help? If we got someone from a different school to come in here and talk to us because they have a totally different, you know, like we were researching the same things, but I don't know what they've been talking about, what they found.
Starting point is 01:17:00 If we said one of, you know, one of our dudes over there and one of their dudes comes over here, we'll all be more robust in our ideas and our perspectives. And that was what diversity was supposed to be. When we talked about diversity of bringing in, you know, migrants and different people from different backgrounds, it was because they had different worldviews. Yeah. But now what they're doing is they're like, so long as everybody looks a little bit different, we don't care. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Actually, actually, we want them to be homogenous in thought. That's what I think is going to be the death knell of a lot of universities and feels like psychology where you have people who are almost entirely from the left and sometimes very far left who are just doing these studies that are a lot of these studies even when they if they study politics they almost look at conservatism as if it were like a an aberrant trait you know they study at it like an alien studying something they're just like why do people why would anybody believe these things uh so you can see that bias there um and it's just they're unable to cover for their own blind spots because you're gonna have i mean science a lot of people try to portray it as this emotionless thing where you know scientists are just going in there leave all your biases at the door i'm just looking in my microscope and you know eureka that's not how there's there's a human
Starting point is 01:18:13 aspect to it people have biases they want their ideas to be true um and the way we control for that is by having a diversity of opinions or people who can then check your blind spot and say like actually you didn't check for this, you didn't check for that, you know, take in these different viewpoints. But as what you said, we're not getting that type of diversity. We're getting superficial diversity of just skin color.
Starting point is 01:18:35 If I dedicated a year to doing research and I put my heart and soul into it, who are you to come in and tell me that's wrong? That would trigger me and thus shut your mouth and let me just believe i'm right because it'll be happier right i'd be happier too i mean i had ideas it turned out not to be true when i was studying the moon is made of cheese and i can definitively prove it and then you go back and create a fake a revisionist history of how we've all heard the moon is made of cheese well now we know for sure can't prove it's not that's right correct redefine cheese to
Starting point is 01:19:09 yes yes we just rock and well that's that's that's that's a big thing about what they do and i i've been talking about this for a long time with the with the words gender and sex changing changing the definition of the words allows them to change law without having to vote on it so i mean we've kind of we kind of have just seen this with the Supreme Court when they ruled recently, I'm sure you heard that your sexuality and your orientation are inherent components of sex. Therefore, you can't fire someone for being trans and you can't fire someone for being, you know lesbian or gay because those are fundamental components of sex and so thus it's not necessarily the same thing but it's really reaching and saying
Starting point is 01:19:52 you know if if x plus you know circuitous way to get there right for sure yeah i think i think it's only a matter of time before you know uh gender as i i think it's obvious to most people, was put on documents so that we knew if you were male or female for very specific reasons. That's what people have meant by gender from a legal standpoint anyway from a very long time. It's only very recently where now all of a sudden it's a state of mind. So you probably know this better than I do, Lydia, but I was told that in emergency medical treatment, knowing whether someone's male or female is extremely important. Yeah, it is. And I wish I could tell you more definitively why, but I never worked in an emergency department.
Starting point is 01:20:33 All I remember is nurses telling me about needing to know whether what gender. Different medications, I imagine. Yes, absolutely. Different dosages and stuff. But also in like if someone's laying on the ground and you don't know what's wrong with them. I was reading something where it's like it's really important when the EMTs show up that they can clearly distinguish whether or not this is male or female for a variety of reasons. So I wonder what would happen if in like New York where they recognize, I think, 31 genders. And it's really weird because they do.
Starting point is 01:21:02 And some of them are the same. Like they have female to male, but they also have FTM, which is just an acronym for female to male. And then they have something called I'm not saying this to be disrespectful. It's literally gender blender is one of the recognized New York City genders. What is an EMT
Starting point is 01:21:18 or a doctor going to do when there's a non-binary androgynous individual and they're trying to determine an emergency procedure with only seconds to decide. And the form says gender blender. And there's going to be like, I'm not sure quite exactly what I should do. Yeah. I mean, if states want to go and have people put their gender identity on their IDs in addition to their sex.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Yeah. Whatever. I don't think it really it doesn't give anyone information that they need to know in any context. Like we have traits on our ID so that we can be, you know, that person has blue eyes, brown hair, is a male. These are things that people that can be verified and you can, you know, this is what the individual looks like. But to put, you know, I'm genderqueer or something, that's not something that anyone can look
Starting point is 01:21:59 at you and know about yourself. I'm not sure why I need to know that. It'd be like putting, you know, boxers or briefs on your ideas like there's no reason for people to know that about you or your political identity like identity isn't relevant on an id in any way but if they want to put if people want to do it they can put it on there but we can't replace biological sex with because that's something that's you know the problem? I don't care what other people do. Okay, you want to put an X on your ID because now a lot of places are allowing this. I really don't care.
Starting point is 01:22:30 I'm in my own business. If you want to put your identity on your ID and you put gender blender or, you know, androgen is another one they list in New York City. It doesn't affect me personally. But I have a concern then if it comes to medical treatments and the doctor can't make, think about it this way, a million people go through the medical system in New York in one year. It's a random number. I don't know what the actual number is. Let's say 1%. So you get 10,000 people who are of a variety of gender, right? Non-binary, gender blender, whatever. They,
Starting point is 01:23:06 everyone goes in the hospital and there's a certain percentage of success and failure for the doctors on a variety of ailments. If they don't know your biological sex, they can't be as effective. So hypothesizing, you may end up with a disproportionate amount of non-binary individuals succumbing to the ailments versus, I guess, typical binary biological sexes, male or female. Normally, I would say, if you choose to do this and the doctor can't properly treat you, I mean, you make your own choice. I'm not going to intervene in your life. The problem then is someone's going to pull up the data and say, look at this.
Starting point is 01:23:43 There's,'s you know it is twice as likely that a non-binary person dies in a hospital compared to a a cisgendered person that proves the doctors are killing these people and are biased against them that's the issue yeah i don't know about that but that's definitely that is the narrative that we're going to see if that absolutely happens yeah i'm afraid of that and doctors already pay so much in malpractice insurance and we're already such a litigious society and nurses already do so they spend so much of their time on charting this is just going to be more for them this is just going to make everything objectively worse it's like i'll go ahead again because they're only measuring after the fact they're just looking at the final numbers do they just get a ruler do they match
Starting point is 01:24:24 across the top? No, one's lower than the other. Is that a minority group? Yes. Discrimination. And this is actually going to be, it's not just about medical practices, but there's also,
Starting point is 01:24:36 it's going to manifest in a lot of different ways. Perhaps police stops or something. Somebody who dresses a certain way is more likely to get stopped, and then they're going to draw the conclusion not based on the real reason, but they're going to look at the macro-level outcomes and say, this proves discrimination, which is if people are dying, then that proves it. They're biased.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Like when it came to – so actually this is really interesting, right? Let's get in trouble. Let's jump right in and get in trouble. Where is this tweet? Here we go. Oh, yeah. So I have this tweet from Jamaama are you familiar with jama i am not so jama network is newsguard certified so newsguard says that it is a uh a website for 13 medical journals published by the american medical association they consider it to be overwhelmingly credible with a 92.5 out of 100. And they say racial ethnic variation in nasal gene expression
Starting point is 01:25:31 of transmembrane serine protease 2. The tweet they put out says that given the essential role of TMPRSS2 in SARS-CoV-2 entry, higher nasal expression of TMPRSS2 may contribute to the higher burden of COVID-19 among black individuals. The first reply, race is not genetic. Do better. Well, what do you mean do better? It's a scientific study. How do you do better science? Well. I mean, if you, there was a study that's done where you get individuals and they give you their self-identified race.
Starting point is 01:26:05 And then they look at their genes and they look at how they cluster based on self-identified race. And they all cluster basically in the exact same groups that you would think. So there's, it's a very low resolution depiction of what these are general racial categories, you know, like white, African-American. It's a super low resolution. If you turn up the sensitivity high enough, you can see these things kind of come out in sort of a clustered fashion genetically. And they do give some useful information. So I don't think we should be using these, the generic racial categories. There's much more easily finer scale variation that you can pick up that might have relevance in the medical field.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Like only certain populations of black individuals have sickle cell anemia. It was like some sub-Saharan Africa populations have these. But to say, I mean, they're saying race is not genetic, but their idea of race is sort of this socially constructed version. That's not to say that human variation isn't genetic. I mean, human variation is by definition genetic. I mean, what do they mean by race in this regard that's not genetic? Well, they would say the categories that we call these races were constructed by white Western heterosexual individuals.
Starting point is 01:27:20 I mean, they were definitions and observations were made typically typically in science as we know it, from many white individuals. We also collaborate with other countries. I mean, India and Japan, for instance, contribute to a lot of major scientific breakthroughs and studies, as do a lot of other countries. We don't just assume that, well, they make the assumption that white people have invented everything. Well, they would say that because there's not like any single criteria that defines one race from another you can't boil it down to a single tiny one thing that makes somebody black or one thing that makes somebody this right therefore these categories don't exist but that's ignoring the whole type of thing called polyphonic categories where you can belong to like a certain group that's sort of a it's a cluster concept
Starting point is 01:28:06 it's it can have various characters that co-vary in a non-random way and you can you can measure this statistically even though um you know it's not you can't say that these are super distinct categories in any one way but there are ways to cluster them yeah yeah it is it is interesting because people often reference say like albino people, and they'll say you can still tell that their facial, like the size of the nose or whatever, you can make determinations on that they're albino or black or something like that. But it actually is a really good point to give credit where credit is due to the left when they say that that's a really good example of the left's argument,
Starting point is 01:28:46 that there are individuals who have white skin but have more similar facial formations to your typical black or Latino or Asian person, and that person might identify as one of those, not as white, even though they have white skin. And you end up with really weird things from this argument, though. You end up with white people with black hair saying they're black and getting away with
Starting point is 01:29:06 it, like this professor who's apparently Jewish. And so it is interesting, though, and I've often thought about this. How do you define what makes someone black or not, right? So we kind of were critical of the idea of the capital B black, the political black. But there are challenges. You know, there are some people you might look at and say, this person has white skin, but they identify as black and they have black parents and there's some pigmentation issue, maybe albinism, and so they end up with whiter skin.
Starting point is 01:29:37 I guess the issue I see is the challenge in navigating the space appropriately and properly to make sure that we're being correct, we're being respectful, correct first and foremost, but we do want to make sure we're treating people like human beings. The challenge there opens the door for a more extreme version of there's no race. Race is not genetic in any capacity and stuff like that. And then this just basically starts to expand from there. And it's almost like science isn't perfect. So they found a hole or they found a thread and they're pulling unraveling the whole sweater based off of one small thread where they
Starting point is 01:30:11 find an error you know what i mean yeah it's like because you can't identify one thing that makes someone definitively black or definitively asian uh and and they're again ignoring the statistical things that we do and we're correlating different, you know, single nucleotide polymorphisms and populations. I mean, we can get down to such fine scale population differences. If you look in India, you can actually look at the way that the population is structured based on the caste system that they had for long periods of time where you had more likely to have breeding within caste than between them. This creates certain genetic structures between between certain populations that can be measured like that's what we're talking about that's that's a much more recent effect but you can still say that those are real it's not like a person from
Starting point is 01:30:57 this one cast is completely different than this other they're not like different species yeah but you can still look at these correlational differences between their genetic structure you can say you are more most likely from you know brahmin cast cast or something right uh and well i mean we we this is something the human population geneticists have no problem talking about with other geneticists but if you were to say that this corresponds anything real to the social justice. Well, I got, I got my, uh,
Starting point is 01:31:26 not me, but members of my family have gotten their ancestry or whatever. And it comes back and it says, here are all the things you are like, how can they tell you that if it wasn't really genetic or whatever? Well, maybe there's something to this whole genetics thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I guess it's a, it's, it's, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:43 it's racist. Bigoted. I wonder what the, what's your, let's do this guess it's racist. Bigoted. I wonder what the... Let's do this. Let's take everything we've talked about just now. Fast forward 10 years. Oh, my God. Assuming this keeps going, what would you predict?
Starting point is 01:31:59 I would expect if it keeps going at the same clip... Well, I don't think it can. So if it keeps going at this same clip, well, I don't think it can. So if it keeps going at this clip, I think it's going to max out and there's either going to be some sort of revolution or no one's going to know up from down or left from right because it's just going to be, everything's been deconstructed.
Starting point is 01:32:15 I like to imagine that everybody has to wear a giant cardboard box around their body that they move around. It's like dragging on the ground too and they have they speak through a text-to-speech so that no one knows anyone's gender or race or whatever and in order to communicate you type in the keyboard like i am hungry and would like to get a cheeseburger and it's like i am hungry would like to eat cheeseburger that would be too colorblind though because that's that's racist oh that's a good
Starting point is 01:32:42 point yeah so then there would be to take into their accounts you'd have a checklist or something outside of like no no the the the asian people would have like their everyone's skin tone would be the color of their box but you couldn't see anything else is it is it can you be gender blind is that also bigoted i think it probably is there's no answer i'll go with yes on this one okay how about everybody's wearing a gray jumpsuit they have shaved heads and if you're a dude they malnourish you to a certain degree so everybody will be basically the same height and weight and they'll hold hands yeah i didn't think we could get to where we are right now so that's not too far-fetched honestly i think to be more realistic and you the jokes aside, I think the reality is a right-wing reaction. I think that the more psychotic this stuff becomes, whether the left wants to admit it or not, people have certain biological drives.
Starting point is 01:33:36 And they're going to want these things, like eating food. Like we all crave food or we die. And you can't just act like these things don't exist. And people want to have families. It's interesting. I was looking at a study a while ago. And it was, what do you think most people value? And what do you value the most?
Starting point is 01:33:56 And most people said, other people want to be famous. They said, what do you value? Family. Everybody said they valued family, but everyone else valued fame. It's a really interesting phenomena. If that's the case, then you have people, most people just want to have a family. Well, if you say you want to disrupt the nuclear family, like Black Lives Matter does, eventually you're going to have regular people saying, I want a family.
Starting point is 01:34:19 They're going to look to their left and they're going to see people saying, break the family apart. They're going to look to their right and they're going to see people with the smiling the family apart. They're going to look to their right and they're going to see people with the smiling family in a picket fence. And they're going to be like, I'll take that. What they don't realize is they're looking at, you know, fascists. And they're going to say, I want this one thing. And I bring that up almost as a bit of a self-criticism because here we are, you know, you mentioned
Starting point is 01:34:38 earlier, you were not for school choice before, but you are now because of the manifestation of this weird politics. And I mentioned that I wasn't, you know, I don't want to say I was against gun rights or anything like that, but I definitely leaned more towards, you know, what common sense gun control. And I didn't want to own any guns. Now I own a bunch and I'm like, nah, get out of here. Don't take my guns.
Starting point is 01:34:56 You know what I mean? Yeah. So we've been pushed to that side because the left is scarier and goes against our own drives for me, safety and security and i think it's actually similar for you in terms of school choice yeah i've stayed i've changed on minor policy type things but i'd say since i was 20 i don't think my my fundamental politics hasn't really changed much but relative to where the center is given that the left has sort of gone out right super far now i'm just considered centrist or even maybe center right by some people i would i would i would
Starting point is 01:35:31 i would say by uh you know standard american this this generation my policies my politics are very liberal at least where liberal used to be but now liberal today is blindly following far left progressive insanity. And so they call me conservative. And I'm like, I have very few conservative positions. And there are a lot of union Democrats that have historically been pro to a so that's not even necessarily there are blue states that are very much pro per Second Amendment. You know, Vermont, for instance, Bernie Sanders used to have a good position on gun control saying it was an urban versus rural issue.
Starting point is 01:36:05 And I was like, that's a brilliant point. That's why I liked him back in the day. Now he's kind of sold out. But the right is not really moving all that much. And they're opening up their tent to liberals who still believe in their same liberal positions. But the far left and whatever liberal is supposed to mean today doesn't represent, in my opinion, the average American. They like to claim America is a progressive country, and it's a lie. They just do clever wordplay.
Starting point is 01:36:38 My favorite is the Green New Deal. Here's what they do. This is how polls work. You probably know. Would you support the government investing into research for green technologies to help reduce reduce carbon emissions well yes they would absolutely you are for the green new deal check then they come out and they say 87 were in favor of green new deal policies you see they reframe the answer different from the question of course they'll say here's our full you know questionnaire and here's what we asked but nobody goes in there some people do but then the headline is 87 support the green new deal why it's the it's the bias people see polls and they assume
Starting point is 01:37:10 if most people like it they'll just say sure i'm for it too because i want to fit in that's where we're at how about we take super chats people are gonna ask questions and let's do it they're gonna put you on the spot that'd be interesting yes okay so this one i guess has nothing what is this alan brady says hi tim heard about the joe rogan debate possibility exciting may i suggest the hashtag joe must go hashtag as my pressure tag of choice take this wad of dough and go be my champion in the media sphere that actually is a pretty good one but it sounds like you're saying he has to leave just leave yeah saying joe must go is like get out of here joe we don't want you no no let's go on joe biden yeah that's it's tough because they're both named joe so i haven't actually heard about this biden debate thing on rogan what's the deal with that so joe on a podcast said that he'd be down to moderate a
Starting point is 01:38:00 four-hour debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. And Trump said, yes. He said, I do want that. Yes. So Tim Kennedy tweeted on my podcast with Joe. He said he'd be willing to do this. How many of you want this? And Trump quote tweeted it, I do.
Starting point is 01:38:21 And everybody's like, yeah, dude. That would be the most watched thing ever in history. Easy. It would be the highest watched thing ever in history. Easy. It would be the highest rated thing ever done ever. No joke. And the reason is debates are fake news. Like a debate between Trump and Biden is just going to be stupid, corny. You have 30 seconds to answer, sir.
Starting point is 01:38:40 No, no. I want the four hour Trump being like, excuse me, Joe. No, you're wrong. And Joe being like, I can't. Come on, man. Come on. I want the four-hour Trump being like, excuse me, Joe. No, you're wrong. And Joe being like, I can't. Come on, man. Come on. I didn't say that. And then Joe being like, yo, guys, guys, why the F is marijuana still illegal?
Starting point is 01:38:52 That would be amazing. It would be like the greatest thing ever. That would be so fun. I wish, man. I would watch that. All right, we got one from Daniel. Why is it Daniel? Daniel Christman.
Starting point is 01:39:03 Brooklyn's Julia Salazar is a leader of the Justice Democrats and NYC's DSA. I'm running against her for state Senate. One-on-one. I am pro 2A, Trump supporter. I hate Cuomo. Daniel Christman. Google me. I'm an independent. Hey, there you go. Super chat and you get your advertisement. Why bother
Starting point is 01:39:20 paying for any sponsorship on any of my channels when you can just super chat me five bucks and then I can read out whatever you put. All right. Here we go. Dr. Roller Gator says, Colin, you sexy nerd. Pick one or the other. Sexy or nerd.
Starting point is 01:39:32 You can't be both. Are you ever going to announce which candidate is in a slick leather jacket you endorse for president? I do endorse Dr. Roller Gator for president. Dr. Roller Gator? There you go. Yeah. He's the best candidate. And if Iator for president. Oh, perfect. Dr. Roller Gator. Yes. In America. There you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:47 He's the best candidate. And if I had to pick between sexy and nerd, I'd probably have to go with nerd. Nerd. I think that'll carry me further in the future. Yeah, man. Yeah, money talks and BS walks. There was a moment in the past where I was going to either be in a rock band or go full throttle on the evolutionary biology. And I just didn't think that my bass playing would have carried me as far as just me actually studying for something and I could commit to it
Starting point is 01:40:14 and have the future in my own hands. I think it's a tough industry because it's saturated because everybody wants to be a rock star or whatever. And there's so much luck involved, too, of who is at your show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, we're in the digital space now, so it's much more meritocratic. It's true. But you've got to have a marketing mind.
Starting point is 01:40:31 But the main thing I would say is that if you're a bass player or a guitar player or a drummer, you have one singular thing you're doing, if you're not a producer of your own music or any others, then you're going to become a session musician. Not bad. You can make money. But then it's basically an interesting's an interesting industry much like skateboarding where it's just people in the industry paying each other in the industry for money from other industries you know like the money it generates is from adherence of the of its own industry you know
Starting point is 01:40:58 what i mean like if you're assessing session musician it's other bands trying to make it hiring you to record music for them and for the most part i mean you could do composition for for commercials and stuff like that but then you really got to be a jack-of-all-trades full-on musician who can do everything you know so i think you chose the right path i would say so daniel ash ashley says i vote for team tim to run real-time fact checking for the moderated debates yes no no no i would love to do that. I'll do it. You don't have to. Man, if Joe Rogan was able to get Biden and Trump in that room, I'm going to be like, congratulations, Joe. Broke the internet.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Yeah, you broke the internet. Like, it's literally. You couldn't top it. It's going to be tens of millions of live concurrence on YouTube. The full debate would be the subject of every major news outlet. YouTube would break for sure. Spotify would be happy with that one. Right?
Starting point is 01:41:48 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. Oh, man. We got to make this happen. What do we do? I don't know. Joe Biden.
Starting point is 01:41:54 There's no way. Go on Joe Rogan's podcast with Trump. There we go. That would be so incredible. Let's read some more. But also, you want to mention your Twitter handle or any other thing you want to mention so you can you can follow me on twitter it's swipe right that's swipe w-r-i-g-h-t uh that's your name currently working on a book
Starting point is 01:42:14 cool uh called reality's last stand it's going to be going over sort of the whole denial of biological sex and uh in trans issues across the board basically and it's going to going to say Colin Wright PhD in the bottom, right? You know, I don't know if it put that, because a lot of times when you put the PhD, that's a lot of what a huckster's put on their front book if they're trying to sell, like, crystals or something. Interesting. So maybe in the back flap it'll mention it.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Too funny. Crystals. I love it. Dr. Certifiable says, Hey, can we get Aria DiMezzo on the show? We can use a little trans-Satanist anarchist perspective. That would be cool, actually.
Starting point is 01:42:49 That would be really cool. Yeah, we were talking about that yesterday. So do you know about this story? I don't think so. Aria Demetso is a transgender, I think. I'll just say trans. That's how they describe themselves. Trans-Satanist anarchist who ran for sheriff for the GOP nomination and won.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Sheriff. That says sheriff? Yeah. Sheriff, yeah. Yeah, sheriff. for sheriff on the GOP for the GOP nomination and won fourth that has a sheriff yeah sheriff yeah yeah sheriff 4,000 primary votes and all these Republicans are really angry because they didn't realize who they were voting for so there's a blog from Aria saying like you're mad at me you're the one who just voted for a for a party it's fundamentally broken and I'm like this is great you know why because the reason why we have rhinos and dinos, these politicians who don't do anything, is because people are like, I'm going to vote Democrat. And they just go, boop.
Starting point is 01:43:31 I'm going to vote Republican. Boop. And they have no idea who they're voting for. It's hackable. So absolutely. So you end up with a trans-Satanist anarchist being totally upfront. Her website campaign slogan was F the police. Running for sheriff.
Starting point is 01:43:46 It's amazing look if you voted for someone that like blunt and that honest you didn't do your homework that was your vote you chose to vote for that person now the the the four-term incumbent in this district is probably not going to lose so that's why i think it's just a good thing to wake these people up like you gotta vote you gotta know who you're voting for and more importantly you should run because aria was running unopposed so they were just like well we got one choice there you go yep geez so but but that would be that would be fun i guess you know we'll try and figure things out be interesting if nothing else oh yeah alex says first time watching live much love tim appreciate it oh carlos crew uh carlos
Starting point is 01:44:27 crew says tim is your pronunciation of sheriff a chicago thing or is that just a you thing why how am i supposed how am i supposed am i supposed to say sheriff you said sheriff sheriff like sheriff sheriff yeah is that you don't pronounce sheriff like i'm saying it you don't pronounce sheriff like sheriff sheriff now i can't pronounce. That one office that this person was running for. Sheriff. Sheriff. Yeah, yeah. Sheriff.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Sheriff. I was saying sheriff from now on. Perfect. Excellent. Let's see. 8bitnaco says, I'm only here for Bucko. Well, thank you. He was drinking water and he's since gone back to bed.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Anthony Crossland says, hey, Tim, I have a background in non-lethal hand-to-hand combat. I want to use this to partner with local law enforcement at no cost to provide police more options for resorting to the tool belt. Includes more training and de-escalation. Thoughts? You know what the problem is? They banned some of these things, right? Like, you know, chokeholds, for instance. They're not, chokeholds are an option. You know, it's like, so you've seen a lot of the you know police brutality stuff they've banning various things if a cop has a choice between escalating from punching to shooting because you've gotten rid of chokeholds wouldn't you wish you had chokeholds as an option yeah so yeah yeah uh not that that's the main issue i see but you know talk to your local department and uh and let them know
Starting point is 01:45:41 gurg c says love cats but maybe feed them earlier and keep them out of the room while streaming no we love them yeah we love them yes see normally we end the shows around 10 but we usually just go a little bit longer and so what happens is bucko he wakes up when the show ends and then he's all like you droopy eyed and like oh what's going on he's a little groggy but then we go yeah we go like 10 minutes over and heed and like, oh, what's going on? He's a little groggy. But then we go, yeah, we go like 10 minutes over and he starts yelling at us like, yo, what's going on? It's time to eat. What up? And it's funny.
Starting point is 01:46:11 And then he jumps on the table and starts drinking water. It's hilarious. Aren't animals funny? I think they're great. Let's see. Kekman says, thank you for being a bastion of free speech and thought, Tim and co. Do you have any measures, policies in place so that your own businesses not go woke after you retire or dismantle what you built when you retire?
Starting point is 01:46:31 It's all built on me, which is a problem. I get hit by a truck tomorrow. Unless Tim goes woke, then your employees don't have anything to worry about. I've been thinking about it. No, I forbid it. I just will randomly wake up one day and be like, principals, why? I could get a big old contract at the end. This is the funny thing.
Starting point is 01:46:51 They say grifters. They're like the right wing grifters. Oh, yeah. Like I choose to oppose the mainstream establishment. No, I'd love to get a contract. It would be easy. Standing up on a podium at the Major League Baseball and saying all of the stupid corporate things they want you to say. And they pay fat cash for it. Yeah. at the Major League Baseball and saying all of the stupid corporate things
Starting point is 01:47:05 they want you to say, and they pay fat cash for it. Yeah, I'm not sure where they get the idea that there's a lot of money in someone like me just writing an article in Quillette or something about biological sex being real that submarines my whole career
Starting point is 01:47:16 that I've been training for over a decade to get into. You're being funded by right-wing billionaires. There is like a small fee you get paid for publishing in Quillette. So you admit it's all for money. It's all for money. The work you're doing is in exchange for pay. I mean, when I had the article in the Wall Street Journal
Starting point is 01:47:34 and someone was like, he just wanted the money from that. They don't even pay that much. They pay like 200 bucks. Yeah, I know. It's trash, isn't it? And I tanked my career doing stuff. You ended up quitting academia? Yeah, right after that one, basically.
Starting point is 01:47:48 So what you're saying is you're a bad grifter. If there's a better way to do it, I'd love to. Let me know, yeah. I did get hired by Quillette after I got canceled. Yeah, it works. There you go. You're not eating gutter oil or anything in the streets. Not yet.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Not yet, hopefully. Let's see. Caper2x says, lack of context. It ought to be Democrats through history. Yeah, there's a lack of context. Aaron says, I had socialists come to my school and give flyers telling us to leave the Dems
Starting point is 01:48:18 and form our own socialist party. They want the teachers union and other city unions to strike. I mean, the teachers unions should all join the socialist party. They should. I absolutely believe they should. Totally wasn't my fault, says I believe to fight social justice. Trump should make it easier for foreigners to be citizens based on personal experience.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Naturalized citizens have a bigger appreciation here than the SJWs who were born here. I don't. You know, the problem is they have taken all of these really positive things and turned citizens have a bigger appreciation here than the sjws who were born here i don't you know the problem is they have taken all of these really positive things and turned them into really bad things so you can't oppose them social justice do you oppose justice do you oppose anti-fascism anti-racism yep that's why lives matter it's all the same. Exactly. That's why I said... The crazy is they are on point on their messaging campaign. That's why I said I'm going to start an organization called the Weaken Vulnerable Elderly Grandmothers.
Starting point is 01:49:13 So that way when Antifa shows up and starts punching them, the press will report Antifa beat several Weaken Elderly Vulnerable Grandmothers. Yeah, but they kind of took that out from under you because they actually did. Remember? What do you mean? They beat a couple old people in the streets well they didn't get any bad press for it then um then we'll say uh disabled children yes puppies a bunch of like super ripped dudes like far-right militia decked out in gear walking around and they'll be caught up they're like they're they'll be called the disabled children antifa shut up and attacked disabled
Starting point is 01:49:42 children attacked the disabled children beautiful antifa why would and attacked disabled children. Attacked the disabled children. Beautiful. Antifa, why would you attack? You're opposed? You hate disabled children? What's wrong with you? Are you a bigot? Black Lives Matter 2 or something. I think there actually is a group called that. T-O-O. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, it's, uh...
Starting point is 01:50:01 Yeah. Look it up. I've not heard of that. Timothy Peterson says, Former Brewers Packers Bucks Badgers fan. Haven't watched or listened to the yes it's uh yeah look it up i'm not heard of that timothy peterson says former brewers packers bucks badgers fan haven't watched or listened to the pro pro teams badgers can't play because the big 10 is a worthless conference to hell with all of them used to watch sports because gasp i like sports and sports brought us together yeah it's a shame morgan says i'm canadian and our liberal party has to go as well this is is the fight for all Western civilization. Well, there are a bunch of lunatics doing crazy things, to say the least, in many different countries.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Joseph Aaron says, a subject that doesn't get a lot of attention is child trafficking. Jacko Booyens would be a great guest to have on to discuss the issue. I'm not familiar with who he is. I haven't heard this name. I got to look him up. That's a lot of, I don't know if you follow any of that stuff, but there have been like a bunch of big busts recently of traffickers and like they found kids. I see a lot of people saying they're going to vote for Trump because the Trump administration
Starting point is 01:50:53 has been particularly active in taking down these trafficking rings. Have you seen that Wayfair conspiracy? Oh, yeah. No, that stuff's all silly, man. So weird. But there's weird stuff happening. I don't know. It's true. But Wayfair is not the way to do it you know yeah it's a little too open yeah wolf
Starting point is 01:51:10 up says did you know that september 17th is both constitution day and the bloodiest day in u.s history i wonder if the leftists going to dc know that the bloodiest day is considered the battle of antietam really yeah the battle of antietam and i did know it was september 17th that is interesting whoa you know is there like a gathering on the white house siege oh they're calling it the white house siege i doubt they know enough about history yeah it's a non-violent siege that's what they said siege siege for 50 days they're going to lay siege to the white house they said and it will be non-violent yes siege no doubt no they're saying non lay siege to the White House. They said. And it will be nonviolent. Yes.
Starting point is 01:51:45 Siege. No doubt. No, they're saying nonviolent because otherwise they'll be arrested. But everybody knows Antifa is going to show up, act a fool, and there's going to be tons of violence. But they're anti-fascist, Tim. That's on the 17th. But they're pro. Yeah. In D.C. in front of the White House.
Starting point is 01:51:57 For 50 days, they're going to occupy and they're going to fight with cops. And I hope you're all ready for riots. That'll be fun. Hey, if you haven't already, make sure you smash the like button. Because we're talking about important things. Yes. Snagglespice says, My best friend has a biracial kid and is now being called a racist due to her support of Trump.
Starting point is 01:52:14 Close friends of ours say she's hiding her racism behind her kid. What? It's so insane. Sad times. Love to you from California. Oof, get out. Get out while you can. Isn't that crazy you have she's
Starting point is 01:52:26 just pretending to not be racist by having an interracial child impressive wow v city says when i was looking through the cancel netflix hashtag i saw a name i didn't expect to see richard spencer canceled his netflix over cuties don't know what to say about this one you know a lot of people keep saying the left is pro cuties. No, it's the media class. Yeah. Because everybody was freaking out over that. You saw. I did.
Starting point is 01:52:49 Yeah. Basically, everybody. There was like one account from an avowed Marxist, you know, and she's like, I'm a Marxist. I oppose this. Nancy Pelosi's daughter, who's a lawyer, also strongly opposes it. And yeah, it's disgusting stuff. Yeah. But there were these creepy pedos in the media
Starting point is 01:53:05 and they were like i think the movie was fine it's like i wonder what other movies you think are fine yeah tell us more yeah rotten tomatoes that had like an 80 percent critic and it was like a four percent four percent yeah because the movies you know what people don't realize is i see these media people being like, well, you didn't even watch the movie. No, because someone posted a three minute long clip of little girls doing like twerk dances, humping the ground. And I'm like, I'm not going to watch that movie. What is this? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:35 You know, it's a need to at that point. The way I describe it is like, imagine if you're making a movie saying murder is bad. I'm sorry, not murder. Drugs are bad. So you buy drugs, literally give the drugs to kids make them smoke the crack and film it it's one thing if they're acting look what's happening to them isn't that horrible yes right right right i think uh sargon said it the best when he was like if you walked around yelling the n-word at black people to to point out how awful it is to
Starting point is 01:53:58 do i'm like no don't but it's like yeah you can't do that that makes no sense yeah it was a funny point though these people are crazy. Jake Phillips says, proud boys are still going to Portland. Do you still think they should relinquish their First Amendment rights for optics? If so, at what position should people stand up? Honest question. Did I say they should? I never said they should relinquish their First Amendment rights for optics.
Starting point is 01:54:23 I said that perhaps you should consider having your rallies somewhere else because you're stepping into an arena that's going to cause a bunch of violence. And if your goal is actually to help Trump win and stand up for your rights, strategy is more important than acting tough. I imagine it this way. You know, I'm like, imagine the stereotypical, you know, feudal feudal lord's temple or something in Japan. And the ninja runs full speed to the front gate, starts banging on the door saying, let me in. I want to kill the feudal lord. They're going to be like, prepare the arrows and they will kill the ninja. And that's a horribly ineffective ninja. But hey, they were fighting, right? Or wouldn't it make more sense for the ninja to sneak in from the back, climb through the
Starting point is 01:55:05 roof, on the ceiling, drop down, poison the feudal lord, and escape without ever being noticed? I bring this up because I was talking to activists a long time ago about this. And I said, you can stand up for your rights, but what does it matter if you're losing and you don't care that you're losing? Isn't winning and securing your rights more important? In which case, tact and strategy is paramount. But more importantly,
Starting point is 01:55:26 we don't want violence and escalation. So I don't know if you heard the Proud Boys are planning on going to Portland on the 26th. Is it like another caravan or something? I think there's going to go march around and wave flags. They have every right to do so.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Does it mean they should? Just because you have the right doesn't mean you should go into a situation that's going to hurt your own cause. That's the weirdest thing to me. It's like, you have the right doesn't mean you should go into a situation that's going to hurt your own cause. That's the weirdest thing to me. It's like you have your rights. It doesn't mean it is mandatory that you go around and march everywhere all the time. It means you do it when it makes sense because you're trying to fight for what you believe in.
Starting point is 01:55:56 And right now there's a bigger issue. if they showed up and they did a very specific nonviolent civil disobedience, like carefully planned and they agreed to not be offensive in any capacity and to only block against attacks and not take attacks, they might win in terms of how the press manipulates everything. Yeah. But if they're going to go in there with like paintballs and start shooting people, like people are going to show up with guns. Probably the left is going to shoot somebody. And it's and it's just like they believe it's, you know,
Starting point is 01:56:26 you have a right to do it. I'm not saying they shouldn't do it. I'm saying if it were me and I was trying to win some kind of political battle, I'd be like, well, that's a bad idea. But tons of people feel that way. But they have a right to do it. They do. That's why I'm like, do your thing, whatever. And then all the press will come out with the violent right wing militia proud boys. And they're going to lie left and right about everything that happened. And they're going to try and use that to make it so Trump doesn't win and then you'll end up with Marxist insurrectionaries running the government.
Starting point is 01:56:50 It's complicated. If it was for straight-up caravans or something like that, that would have been fine, but as soon as they started paintballing people, they weren't there to just wave their flags. They're trying to stir something up pretty good. But the main issue is the narrative being pushed by the left is that right-wing militias are storming their flags. They're trying to stir something up pretty good. But the main issue is the narrative being pushed by the left is that right wing militias are
Starting point is 01:57:07 storming their towns. And I see the journalists are salivating. You see, in Portland, a far leftist stalked and executed a Trump supporter. And that that's going to scare a lot of people. The left is desperate to get any kind of message out that they're not the bad guys. They need all the evidence they can get, even if it's only a little bit, to prove it's actually the right wingers invading their town and attacking the innocent. They're desperate. And never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake. But now a bunch of Proud Boys are going to show up. The left is going to be like, listen, they're walking into a trap. You know, the left is preparing for it right
Starting point is 01:57:44 now, the media, and they know it's going to happen. And they are lining up all their narratives. And they're going to wait for the perfect shot to say the Proud Boy attacked an old lady and, you know, beat random people. And then they're going to put it in the press and see, see that guy who's actually stalking a Trump supporter. It's because of this. And they're going to try and justify everything. But again, I mean, they're allowed to do it. I'm just saying I think it's a bad idea.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Don't like my opinions. That's fine. I, you know, you have do it. I'm just saying I think it's a bad idea. Don't like my opinions? That's fine. You know, you have your opinion, I have mine. Holly Math Nerd says, Colin, you're too sexy to do live video chats. Way too distracting. Audio only in the future, please. Who are these people? Triggered.
Starting point is 01:58:17 Random Twitter followers. I love it. Exile of Society says, Tim, if you have a problem with the black separation then do you like do you dislike native reservations do you dislike the amish if you want to live in their community you have to give up your ways and live on their terms you also have stated living separate uh by a river separated by a river i mean i just there's a river and i live near it i don't know if that's intentional um native american reservations are based on many different things. I mean, it was like reserving land for the Native Americans and their communities. And it was because they were in active conflict with the U.S. for a long
Starting point is 01:58:54 time when the colonists came here. And that's, you know, the history. I don't need to read all the history lessons for you. And the Amish, I'm pretty sure the Amish aren't based on race. Like a white person can go to the Native American reservation and be like, I would like to join. And a lot of them actually said, you can. And I don't know how the Amish work, but if you want to live in their community, you have to give up your ways. So what's wrong with that?
Starting point is 01:59:15 If I want to go move to New York, I got to pay New York taxes. That's fine. It's basically the same thing. I just don't like them being like, we're going to say you look different, so we won't have anything to do with you. That's a problem to me. That I don't like. I've, we're going to say you look different, so we won't have anything to do with you. That's a problem to me. That I don't like. I've seen multiracial Amish people when I'm doing research because I'm in pretty rural areas and there's buggies and everything going by.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Cool. I just don't like racial segregation. I think it's walking backwards. It's like, you know, Eric A. says, woke logic doesn't hold up under any amount of pressure. Saw a vid of a girl getting arrested and a friend demanding a female cop. Officer asked her, how does how does she know he doesn't identify as female? Think he broke her brain. Right.
Starting point is 01:59:56 Just he shouldn't. He shouldn't even say that. He should have said quite literally, it's OK. I'm I'm I'm a female. It's OK. I'm a woman. Then they'd be like, no, you're not. Excuse me.
Starting point is 02:00:03 How dare you? Yeah. How dare you? Bigot. Right. So John the Great says, no, you're not. Excuse me? How dare you? Yeah, how dare you, bigot? Right. So Jong the Great says, look up the battle of the sexes. Brosh versus the Williams sisters. Sisters claimed they could beat any man ranked 200+. Dude played a full round of golf, came to the match buzzed,
Starting point is 02:00:17 and handily beat them both in two rounds. Yes. Yes, the Williams. I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so funny. Yep. Let's see oak uh oka mccurry on morania i can't pronounce that i'm sorry uh okim kuriya kurenya
Starting point is 02:00:35 identitarianism is a sood great social great filter that an ever more tolerant society drags with it contrarians that wish to destroy it, and ever more advanced technology grants them the tools to do so. Yikes, man. That's true. You got people who don't have to do anything and they have food available to them. Idle hands are the devil's playground, you know. So they want to burn it down. Let's see. What is this? Okay, I read that one. Yaroslav Korovnikov. Jordan Peterson said that the left doesn't believe in free individuals at all. You are just a mouthpiece of your hierarchy. So, what you have been previously asking.
Starting point is 02:01:14 They don't care about truth or facts. It's only about power. Yep. Yep. Hav Tome says, heard a joke one time. It was when Tim pronounced Willamette. Am I pronouncing it wrong? I remember you had a hard time with it. I don. It was when Tim pronounced Willamette. Am I pronouncing it wrong? I remember you had a hard time with it.
Starting point is 02:01:27 I don't remember what you said. Willamette? That sounds not complicated. I don't think that word was ever an issue. I don't think that's it. Because I know because I had an issue with them when they wrote fake news about me, and I had to call the Willamette Weekly and be like, yo, you're fake news. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:37 Thank you for everything you guys stand for. UFO. Oh, you want to spin the UFO? It's really simple. What does this do? So you just hold the trigger down until it starts blowing air, and then you it at the edge of the ufo and the ufo will spin oh and there you go you have successfully spun the ufo we passed on the knowledge it's like your equivalent of the flamethrower yes yeah but better yeah no flamethrower for us this one's safe and family
Starting point is 02:02:00 friendly it's levitating and spinning how fun doug Douglas Damshin says, Tim, I just want you to know I'm 21 and you, Daryl Davis and Jordan Peterson are three people I hope to live up to one day. You're my personal hero. Wow. Thank you. I really appreciate it, man. I just sit on the internet and read news all day and then complain about it. OMG Puppy says there were eight presidents before George Washington under the Articles of Confederation. Interesting. We don't often talk about that, but that's interesting. Dan Fitzpatrick says, interested in challenging my own bias. Invite Kyle Kalinske sometime. Otherwise, I vote talking with Dan Bongino. He's months ahead of MSM Stories. Kyle Kalinske's great. I think he's a good dude. I think we just disagree on certain things, probably because we
Starting point is 02:02:41 read different sources. And I probably think I'm right right and a lot of things he says are wrong and he probably says the same thing about me but i think he's an honest and and good dude and i think he has a good channel i think he's cool dude let's see thomas stein says reason has a pro cuties piece today you should ask rabe suave about that really they have a pro cuties piece that seems weird as far as i could tell it wasn't pro cuties so much as like prolook-for-nuance and stuff. Well, I'm not going to watch that. I'm not about that. M. Sheba says, Seamus from Freedom Tunes would be a fun guest.
Starting point is 02:03:13 He is always welcome. Yes. Austin Skinner says, Hey, Tim, new listener. What happens to Ted Wheeler in five to ten years? He seems hell-bent on burning bridges in every cardinal direction. Where does someone so universally hated go? He walks into the ocean,
Starting point is 02:03:29 just slowly submerging and never to be seen again. Bye, Ted. And then he goes and joins Atlantis, I suppose. Is he looking for a re-election or how does it work?
Starting point is 02:03:39 I don't know. What he's doing. I don't know. But he's also the police commissioner. All right, someone got me. Someone got me. They said this.
Starting point is 02:03:45 Honestly, Tim, it's Will Amet, not Will Amet. Will Amet. Will Amet. Will Amet. That seems like splitting hairs. Will Amet. Now I'll say it like that from now on. FN says, I listen to you every morning over coffee.
Starting point is 02:03:57 Well, thank you for that. Here we go. Kevin C says, poop. People offended by offended people. Glenn Beck, 2003. There you go will rushing says our and our law youtuber did a great legal break down on cuties i think there are real grounds for commercial sex trafficking charges look him up good job tim wow really what's the name our and
Starting point is 02:04:17 our law youtuber okay well i think for once it is about 1005 or a little a little bit past uh our uh 10 where we're supposed to end. So I just want to shout out your Twitter or any other stuff you want to mention before we go. Swipe right. That's my Twitter handle. I think I already mentioned the book I'm working on, Reality's Last Stand. Swipe right. W-R-I-G-H-T.
Starting point is 02:04:38 W-R-I-G-H-T. Yeah, because I typed in R-I-G-H-T like, oh, swipe right. You know, W. But I think that's all I got. Right on, man. Well, thanks for hanging out this has been fun got to got to complain about science and academia and all that stuff and i think we had a good time so uh make sure to follow me on twitter instagram and parlor at
Starting point is 02:04:52 timcast you can check out my other youtube channels at youtube.com slash timcast and youtube.com slash timcast news and of course you can follow at sour patch lids sour patch l-y-d-s we'll be back tomorrow who Who do we have tomorrow? Oh, we have. I know who we have, but I want you to say it. We have Brandon Strach tomorrow. Brandon Strach is coming back. Yes, he's coming back.
Starting point is 02:05:10 Brandon Strach 2.0. He has a story for us. Brandon Strach got attacked. Oh, yeah. And it was a couple times, actually. Black Lives Matter. It was brutal. It was bigoted.
Starting point is 02:05:23 It was. So he's going to come back, back and we're gonna talk about what happened to him and his friends when they got attacked by black lives matter and there are a bunch of other journalists there and they didn't care to run the story and they just recently yeah yeah yeah like a week so uh so we we uh wanted to have him back on so he can tell us all the stuff that was going down and he'll be back tomorrow and he's a very very exuberant and uh fun fun guy energetic banging on the table. Super fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:46 I'm glad he's coming back. So we'll be back tomorrow. Thanks for hanging out, everybody. And we'll see you tomorrow at 8 p.m. live. Bye, guys.

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