Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #138 - State of Emergency Declared In KY, Police Brace For Mass BLM Riots, FreedomToons Joins

Episode Date: September 23, 2020

Tim, Ian, and guest Seamus Coughlin of FreedomToons discuss no-knock warrants in the case of Breonna Taylor, Jake Gardner's case, Alyssa Milano's hypocrisy (or is it?), whether age limits should be applied on the Supreme Court, Trump's surprising victory, and Bloomberg's choice to fund felon's right to vote - and a whole lot of science fiction. Guest: Seamus Coughlin (@seamus_coughlin on Twitter,  @FreedomToons on YouTube) Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A preemptive state of emergency was declared in Louisville, Kentucky, because the AG is about to release information on whether or not the police who killed Breonna Taylor will be indicted. The story is rather complicated, but for those aren't familiar, it was a no knock raid. They had a warrant, but they didn't have to knock. So they went in and they got shot at first. They fired back and they killed Breonna Taylor. And this led to it's a huge controversy. The officers, I believe a couple have been placed on administrative leave. One has been fired.

But now we're awaiting the decision as to whether or not they will be indicted. And I think the reaction from the local jurisdiction, which is state of emergency and a warning locking down the downtown area, blocking parking. I think we know exactly what's going to happen. So we're going to talk about what we're going to talk all about this stuff. I guess my warning to all of you is that we are in a new studio. We have not yet installed the legit internet. So we are we are experiencing technical difficulties. But thank you for hanging out anyway. And we actually brought in an audio guy who fixed all the problems from the

other day. Look at that. It's great. And we're also being joined by Freedom Tunes. He has no name. It's just my name is Freedom Tunes, honestly. Yeah, just Freedom Tunes. I mean, none of the audience would know my name. And if they did, they couldn't pronounce it. It's one of those, you know. At first, when you...

Seamus. Seamus McNamara Coghlan. But let me tell you, I've gotten like Seamus, Seamstress. When you gave the warning, I thought you were going to warn people that I was like, I'm just warning you guys, this content might be offensive. Yes, I'm not that bad. No, I'm not. I'm really not. You know, my stuff, obviously, I make it clear that like, I'm not left wing. I'm very vocal about my conservative perspective. And I like to make jokes. But I wouldn't say I'm like edgy. You're not edgy. I mean, I'm a little bit edgy, but I'm not bad.

You know what I mean? I'm not even I didn't accuse you of being edgy. Well, but the way you asked the question, it made me feel attacked. I think you're cartoon edgy. Yeah, exactly. I'm cartoon edgy, but I don't get out there. I don't think this stuff is really adult. It's just stuff that would probably be rated PG on television. Seamus, I was told adults aren't supposed to watch cartoons.

Probably are not. I think these new Marvel movies are cartoons. They basically are. I mean, slightly better animated than Freedom T slightly higher budget but into the spider verse was basically a cartoon that was good yeah into the spider verse was yeah very well animated very very nice what are we what are we talking about we're like we just got up we're talking about brianna taylor it's like an emergency being declared the cops are like ready to come and i made it about me yeah you made it about you look this is what happens when you talk to other

youtubers man white privilege i know this is what happens when you talk to other YouTubers, man. White privilege. I know. This is literally white privilege. So there's a bunch of other stories, too. So actually, one of the officers involved, he's speaking out, saying that the good guys are being demonized and the bad guys are being, what do you say, canonized. Is canonized the right word? I think it is. Well, no, I honestly think canonized is the right word because there's this sort of cult that's built up around every single person who's killed in a police shooting.

And part of the reason it's so complicated and really depressing is the cases we hear about from Black Lives Matter are sometimes a very clear and obvious example of police misconduct. And sometimes they're a very clear and obvious example of a police officer being justified. But they're all treated the same by one side of the political aisle. Well, before we get into everything. Yeah. There's a bunch of stories like 1619 yes so we got a bunch of stories lined up and then obviously we got to talk about the supreme court uh we've got this oh we've been meaning to talk about this thing with jimmy kimmel oh my gosh i don't know who that other guy was did he respond to your emails i didn't email him no i say we're gonna talk with jimmy kimmel oh no no no this thing about jimmy kimmel where he's like it was the

emmys oh so and this guy is just yelling at him for being white and he's like clap and jimmy's like you know like i'm clapping it's like really weird stuff i tweeted about i was like is this what america wants because evidently yeah i don't think so i don't dude that's a jeb bush move he told him to clap and jimmy listened he actually he got a please so what you're saying what you're saying is that if jeb bush was black it would have worked it honestly might have but jeb white privilege fails i'll tell you the problem with jeb was that he was like please clap yeah exactly if jeb was like clap god damn it yeah yeah he would jeb jeb is an interesting figure and a lot of it was his timidity unfortunately he just was not prepared to go up against trump neither is biden but that's

a whole other time i can't believe a debate's really going to happen. I think it's a lie. Do you think it's going to happen? I just released a cartoon about that today. Oh. No, I think it's a lie. Oh. It's got it.

Yeah, my cartoon was about it probably not happening. Oh, you did a song. I did a music video where Trump is singing to Biden. How could it happen? The debate? Yeah. Very slowly. Oh, that's a good question. Yeah.

Joe's going to be sleeping. I think what they're going to do is they're going to put a mask on Joe, like a coronavirus mask, and then they're going to have an impersonator speaking through a microphone. And you won't be able to see Joe's mouth moving. So they'll be able to pass it off as though he's saying whatever. Joe's going to get involved in like a deep French fry deep fryer accident at McDonald's. And he's going to be wearing like full body bandages. And then it's, you know, it's going to you sound awfully young today, Joe.

Yeah. Well, come on, man. I'm just wearing. What's going on? All right. All right. All right. Let's let's let's talk stories, man. OK. young today joe yeah well come on man i'm just wearing what's going on okay all right all right all right let's let's let's talk stories man okay uh but first smash the like button share the podcast if you really do like it it really does help we do the show monday friday live 8 p.m we are currently in the secret bunker in the middle of nowhere there's like no road there's like no

lights because the riots are getting really really bad and that's going to be our first story so if you truly love this podcast then then subscribe, notification bell. We do the show Monday through Friday live. Okay, I think I made my point. Anyway, let's talk about this first story. Take this out. The cop who shot Breonna Taylor's boyfriend emails colleagues to say, the good guys are demonized and the criminals are canonized as Louisville braces for AG's decision

on whether to charge him and other officers over her death. Sergeant Jonathan Mattingly wrote an email to more than 1,000 police officers Tuesday. In an email, he defended his actions and the actions of the other officers on March 13th when Brenda Taylor, 26, was shot dead after the cops entered her apartment. Mattingly said that Louisville Mayor Greg Fisher and top police officials had failed all of us in epic proportions. He also claimed that he's proof the city officials do not care about police. Kentucky AG Daniel Cameron said he will soon decide whether charges will be brought against Matt Ingley and two other officers involved in the shooting. And I think we all know exactly what's going to happen.

They've declared a preemptive state of emergency. They've apparently shut down the downtown area. No parking, no parking garages or whatever and uh checkpoints there's like a radius yeah i think they're they know there's not going to be an indictment yeah well so i'm not really familiar with the specifics of brianna taylor case but what i can say which is i think something most americans would have observed by this point it's really sad is that it kind of doesn't matter what the facts are black lives matter is going to lose their mind as long as there isn't an indictment i mean we know that there was a mob that like surrounded and attacked rand paul for not saying

her name even though he wrote the bill named after her so it just seems as if which would ban no knock rates would ban and i am not a fan of no knock raids either so i'm sympathetic towards her cause but i don't know as much about the specifics of the story as i'd like to i'm just commenting on the fact that we have seen based on the Michael Brown case, for example, that it doesn't actually matter if the person's innocent or not. And so BLM has lost all of their credibility, which is really unfortunate because it would be good to have an advocacy movement for people who are brutalized or unjustly killed by the police. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, honestly, I don't know much about this either. Tim, can you give us like a brief overview about the

Breonna Taylor thing? I heard she was involved in a drug, kind of drug deal well no no that so i mean this depending on who you ask you're gonna hear different stories but uh the general understanding i got from reading it is they were investigating like this house because i guess there was like a drug dealer who had parked in front of it or something like that i'm probably getting it all wrong so forgive me fact check me basically they had they had a no-knock warrant they kicked the door in the brandon taylor's boyfriend sees like plainclothes dudes and he's like oh i'm yeah you know i'm being attacked you know they're breaking into my house so he fires and i think he hit one of the cops like in the lag i think something like that so the cops fired back and bunch of the bullets hit brandon taylor and she died that's really horrible so now they're saying

arrest the cops because the cops are criminals and i'm kind of like dude if if you if you say to someone go do a thing and then they go and do it you can't then accuse them of being a criminal that's the problem so if you want to argue that the system is broken well then i look to rand paul and rand paul is saying you know we're going to ban no knock no knock raids because that's that was the problem yes yeah yeah i think i think there's an argument to be made and this is probably the argument you know, we're going to ban no knock raids because that was the problem. Yes. Yeah. I think there's an argument to be made, and this is probably the argument they're making, that the orders that those police officers followed were unjust orders because you shouldn't just bang somebody's door down without them knowing who you are when you're fully armed. I could see that.

But I do agree that it's a systemic problem, and I'm glad to see people like Rand Paul actually attempting to solve it, even if they're not getting the necessary or deserved credit for it. Yeah. If you, if a cop busts into a house, especially the wrong house and the guy's armed and the guy shoots the cop, no one's at fault. I mean, if anything, the police organization was at fault for exactly the wrong. Yeah. But if this, if the system is designed to function that way, the cops are like, I'm like, okay, we ask cops to do this job. We say, we've set up rules. We want you to do this thing. If then part of that system that we've created is kick the door and go into the house and stop the criminal.

And it turns out they got the wrong house or something, but they had a warrant. Then I don't think you can blame the individual. No. Do you go up the chain and blame the chain of command? That's the question. You literally blame the system. And then Rand Paul says, we're going to get rid of this thing, because that was the problem here. Like file a civil suit and get a bunch of money for it or something?

Yeah, I'd have to think about it, but I definitely hear what you're saying. It's certainly a systemic problem, but again, you get into the question of whether or not following orders is a moral justification. But that said, it's not as if these cops went into this situation thinking, we're just going to kill this innocent person. They went into the situation thinking they were going to arrest somebody and threw no fault of their own. It was a situation that got completely out of hand so yeah i don't know i don't know i'd have to think about it but i do hear what you're saying well they're gonna be riots now yeah exactly exactly yeah because that's the country we live in that's the country we kind of decided we wanted to live in for whatever reason this has not been thoroughly

condemned enough um people aren't really like the media has been calling it this justified outrage ever since the michael brown riots now they word it a little bit differently but they say like riots are the language of the unheard despite the fact that these rights disproportionately hurt the kinds of communities that the left claims to be advocating for yes yeah you think it's not enough people speaking out against it is the reason why it got here that could be part of it also the fact that law enforcement was told to stand down in many instances it's not just about speaking out against it it's about whether or not the government's going to do its job and again i'm generally not a fan of government intervention though i've certainly moved on some

issues uh point is one of the things the cops should be there to do is to prevent your house or business from being burnt down right i think we could all agree to that but police were told to stand down in many places and so they couldn't do their. And that's why we are where we are in many ways. And we've been disincentivizing cops from doing their job for many, many years now. We've been demonizing them. And again, it's true. Again, I mentioned earlier, I'm against no-knock raids. I think there's a lot that can be done to improve our justice system and the way that

policing is done and the way that we train officers. But I don't know who would want to do that job anymore. I really don't. We've made it impossible for them. And there's that, I don't know if you saw that viral video where the cop pulls up to the activist and he's like, you won. I'm quitting. I'm out.

Two weeks and I'm gone. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And then what happens to these communities once there are no longer police officers in them? You think everybody just gets together and holds hands and plays kumbaya? They get rifles. Exactly.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, and we're going to see some interesting things pop up. I'll tell you this. When the police leave, there's going to be a power vacuum and it's not gonna be filled by social workers who's gonna be filled by i i don't know but not social workers maybe gangs i don't yeah uh private security rich people ideally private security well so you're gonna have uh the wealthiest people having no laws held against them. Yeah. And maybe that's the real goal here. Convince poor people to riot and call for defunding the police because you can hire these security companies to walk around you.

And I'll tell you this, man. Security guards are willing to break the law to protect their clients. Absolutely. So we've talked about this in the past. And I've actually gotten a bunch of emails from people who've worked security and some of these security guards the super high tier ones that get paid six figures yeah they will shove a cop to the ground wow yeah so they'll surround their client and then if there's a cop who's like hey get on my way they these security guards sunglasses earpieces will just keep pushing the cop wow and the cop will try and stop the security guard don't care you know why these

rich people they got the best lawyers in the world they're gonna they're gonna take care of this guy and his family he's got nothing to worry about yeah that's interesting that's the world they're trying to create yeah i could see that like whether or not it's intentional you also get the idea that with something like social workers i mean who are the social workers going to be most often used for probably people in areas where there isn't violent crime you're only going to send a social worker out if there's a dispute somebody wants settled that shouldn't require the use of a gun. So you're not going to be calling social workers when somebody breaks into somebody's house or when somebody's threatening to kill somebody or threatening to rape them. You're going to call social workers when there are much more peaceful disputes between neighbors that need to be settled, which I would agree police should not be involved with. But that means in parts of the country that are more socioeconomically advantaged, there's going to be another tier of policing where they're mostly going to get all of the social workers and the impoverished communities are just going to get the regular old police anyway. So we're just going to make a two tier system. What can these so when they talk about defunding the police, they keep saying things like, we're going to have social

workers who come out and help people. Okay, what are these social workers empowered to do? That's also a good question. I have no clue. And who decides whether or not you get a social worker or a cop? Can they make arrests? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Can they cuff people? Do they have batons? What's the...

So I've talked about maybe like a civil guard. So there are some countries that have civil guards. They walk around with batons. They have the ability to like issue fines and they have a baton. They can crack you over the head with if you attack them, they can defend themselves. But they don't have guns. Then you actually have the police force, which are armed, driving around in cars. And so there's like a difference.

If someone is going to get like a ticket or a citation, civil guard comes out and says, hey, you know, wag my finger at you. I guess we kind of have that with meter maids. But the difference, I guess, for us is I think we've gone through that process already. And I was thinking about this. We had a period where we had officer friendly. And then criminals started attacking and killing cops. And so the cops were like, hey, it looks like we need weapons. Then they start making sure the cops are all armed beyond just, you know, even a gun or

baton. They get alternate means. They get tasers. They get pepper spray. And so now they have like a Batman utility belt. They walk around with these different options and they have to be aware that there have been instances where they've gone for their taser, but grab their gun an accident because it's like a split second and they panic.

And there was that viral incident years ago where this dude, I don't remember the guy's name. He was being arrested. He was on a, it was a BART station, which is the Bay Area Rapid Transit, I think it's called. Yeah. And they pinned this guy down and they were like, tase him. And the guy pulls out his gun and puts it in his back and pulls the trigger right away. Oh, that's horrible. Yeah. yeah yeah so these problems have happened and we talk about defunding the police and we talk about bringing in social workers and then what do we

get we you can watch any one of these videos where did you see the you see the video that went viral where the guy has a knife and he's approaching the cop and the cop's like don't do it no no and the cop shoots him several times. He gets up. Then he walks over to, no, he didn't have a knife. He walks over after getting shot several times, grabs another cop by the neck

and grabs his gun. Oh my God. The cop on the ground is screaming, he's going for my gun. He's got my gun. And then the cop whose body camera's on aims and then bang,

right in the head, like a hero. What would you expect? What happens? That was a call for a mental distress thing so you get a guy and they're like he's unwell he's like he's panicked and he's delusional social worker comes out and the guy jumps on a social worker chokehold kills social worker

you send so okay two social workers right maybe because they're you know you two cops too okay let's send out two social workers okay they jump on the back of the guy chokehold strangling the person to death the other social worker is hitting him saying, stop, stop, please. I think the idea is a cop and a social worker. That's the team. I think that, yeah. I mean, that would definitely work better than any of the alternatives we've discussed. But I don't even know if that straightforward policy has been proposed by anybody saying we need to defund the police.

I'm sure they all have their own different ideas. The people who are saying defund the police haven't given us any real propositions. And then everyone else is like, just get rid of all of them just abolish the police outright we'll be fine with them you know they're just protecting private property in capital i love the marxist analysis there right right right and i love uh you see the video in milwaukee where they went to the guy's house and were like harassing him for hours and then he brandished a shotgun then they went to the police and they snitch on the guy and then the cops come and they'll start cheering for the police yeah you can't you you can't trust they actually want to get rid of the police they want to make if the police don't

serve them and get rid of the police yeah i hope you you guys are ready to live in a world based on this kind of morality policing where they dismantle and rebuild community policing exactly you know i wonder how long it's going to take for the left to start talking about gun control again, too. They kind of tried after the Kyle Rittenhouse thing a little bit, but I think they knew it wasn't going to fly just because of how obvious it is. Joe Biden tweeted it. Did he really? He tweeted, you're going to ban weapons of war and assault weapons. Tim, did he tweet it or did someone who could finish the sentence tweet it for him?

No, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. The digital avatar titled Joe Biden presented a published message for us. Who knows where it came from? From the ether. No, this is literally we are in the cave and the shadows on the wall are Joe Biden's tweets. Yeah. With the ability to print guns, I think this whole gun control thing is like out the window.

Yeah. It's nonsense at this point. That technology is only going to improve. And it's not just that. It's not just the fact that it's going to become impossible to regulate firearm ownership and production. It's the fact that people now see the importance of owning a weapon. They see how dangerous things have gotten and the fact that mobs are not very nice and they form very readily in this country at this point in time. And they're often justified and apologized for by the media.

So why wouldn't you want a gun? Yeah. And that's what we saw in the Omaha story, which we talked about the other day because this – you saw the story. The small business owner. Which one? So this jake gardner he's they're riding down on omaha smashing up the windows his dad comes out who's like 70 and he's telling these guys back off shoves one of them someone decks him so jake gardner runs over and he's like yo who did that they start threatening him so he pulls up his shirt to show his weapon he goes don't do it he's backing away don't do it don't do it they attack him he pulls up the gun he fires two warning shots they jump off and run

away then this other dude jumps on his back and starts choking him out and he he says for 18 seconds he was being choked out and he was yelling get off me he switches the gun to his left puts it over his shoulder bang yeah kills a dude the da it's all on video like this dude was knocked to the ground he was trying to retreat he was saying don't do it back you know don't do it get away and then he got attacked while he was on the ground the da said clear-cut self-defense and then the the mob came and he said okay special prosecutor manslaughter that's so insane it's depressing how political they they said that because he was warning them to back to get away from him as he was retreating that was a terroristic threat what yep it is a terrorist yeah he just has this like crazy radical political view he's warning them to get away from him as he was retreating, that was a terroristic threat.

What? Yep. It is a terrorist. Yeah, he just has this like crazy radical political view he's advocating for with violence, which is do not attack me on the streets. Yes. How insane. And then we have this story.

I love this. The New York Times published this. It was like protesters sometimes take more confrontational approach. I love those understatements. Right, right, right. But wait, wait, here's the best part. The story was literally they went to someone's house, wet an American flag and screamed they were going to burn their house down unless they removed the flag right now. They said, we will come back and burn your house down. And I'm just like, a peaceful protest became confrontational today when they threatened to burn down the home of

somebody who had an American flag. Wait, what was the exact wording again? A slightly more confrontational approach? They called it a confrontational approach or something like that confrontational yes i love it that is one way of putting it yeah so they so they're desperately trying to avoid like look the peaceful protest message right unfortunately black lives matter and antifa have done everything in their power to take them off of that message they've tried jo. Joe Biden was desperately trying to say like, you know, I'm not a socialist, you know, blah, blah, blah. And then they started writing again. So then the New York Times can't ignore the fact that the riots are backfiring.

And so they're like, well, they're not peaceful. They're just confrontational. Of course, that's the difference. Just a little confrontational. Confrontational against people who didn't confront them first. You might call that threatening. You might call that threatening. I think confrontation is great. It's good. It's an important part of what we do.

Like if we don't confront each other, it's going to be boring yes man all the time. Yes. But violent, you know, there's a difference between confronting someone and combat. Yes. Being combative and being confrontational are completely different. You can be diplomatically confrontational. You can confront someone without threatening to burn their house down. Do you guys remember when Greta Thunberg said she wanted to put the politicians up against the wall?

What? Greta said she wanted to? I had no idea. That sounds like a meme. I love your reaction to this because it's clear that like why this story got so big. But yes, she was giving a speech and she was like, if they don't listen to us, we're going to put the politicians up against the wall. That's a figure of speech. It's a figure of speech in Swedish.

Oh, I know. So wait, wait. No, no, no, no, no, no. We all know the figure of speech in American English of putting someone against the wall. Yeah. It's like a reference to like the commies. Yeah. The firing squad.

Commies and fascists. In Sweden, it's a reference to taking someone by the shoulder and wagging your finger at them up against the wall. Oh, man. That poor girl. That poor girl.

Look at me. I'm jumping to conclusions and believing fake news. But so she said it. She said it and like, everybody freaks out. Yeah. They're like,

she just came out and said and she did this op-ed that was like very far left like sjw identitarian stuff like we got we must end white cis heteronormative patriarchy you know yeah how dare you blah blah blah and uh and then she said we're gonna put them against the wall and americans have it we're like aghast yeah she came out and immediately apologized you know the first thing i did was i reached out to someone who was fluent in Swedish, and I said, what does it mean to put someone against the wall? And he says, to hold them accountable. That's it.

Yeah. And I was like, is that a reference at all to, like, you know, gulags and firing squads? No, no. It's like, you know, it's like when you're yelling at someone and you push them up against the wall and you're, like, wagging your finger at them. And I kind of feel like, are you downplaying that? Yeah. Does it still come from up against the wall?

Because it can, you know what I mean? Maybe. Hold someone accountable. Okay, well, let's say you had a subversive who was trying to overthrow your revolution. So you held them accountable by putting them up against the wall and putting a bullet in their head, right? Yeah. Could that still be the derivative, like the root of where the phrase came from? I have no idea it would depend on how when the phrase got created because once photograph uh photography became you know viable then you

could actually see an image of someone being pushed against the wall and that those images are burned in our brains yeah before the imagery maybe it was just a long-standing phrase yeah yeah i have no idea all that matters is she did not mean she wanted to line up politicians and execute them one by one yeah she didn't get her revolution that poor girl that's horrible what a misunderstanding my goodness yeah so uh we have a funny story as it pertains to defund the police alissa milano oh boy she's always she called the cops she she's tweeted uh kind of a lot about defunding the police and she like apparently tweeted out a petition telling people like join me in defunding the police and hashtag defund the police and then

when a when a when a a small teenager was near her neighborhood simply shooting squirrels with an air gun which is kind of weird i mean like that but anyway she called you didn't do that tim you didn't go around killing squirrels in your in your neighborhood well i mean is an airsoft gun gonna hurt oh was it an airsoft gun going to hurt a squirrel? Oh, was it an airsoft gun? Because I know BB guns are sometimes called air guns. Right, airsoft. So it was just airsoft.

Is it? It was an airsoft, right? You can take its eye out. Let's double check. They say airgun. Airgun. Yeah, you never actually know. Okay, if they're saying airgun, that could be like a.22 pellet, like, right barrel.

I mean, I think that is. Because apparently she heard the shots and she got scared yeah and i don't think an airsoft gun would make a loud enough noise like little plastic pellets yeah probably not yeah why why why was he shooting squirrels or maybe she heard the noises of the squirrels screaming out in agony and that's what scared her i think we should keep an eye on this kid you know yeah no i hear that something about we should call a social worker for him yeah well i mean quite literally they should have well no that is a problem because a kid had an air gun yeah but so she calls the cops and now people are calling her a hypocrite because she's all about defund the police right

and this was a kid who was shooting squirrels which is really weird i don't know i mean people it's kind of a contextual thing because like if you were if you were hunting small game in the woods with an air gun that wouldn't be weird but like i guess he is just going through his neighborhood like i guess shooting squirrels with an air gun is not totally unheard of or like crazy but to do it in your neighborhood is maybe kind of a weird thing to do yeah i don't know if it was in his neighborhood apparently he was like walking around various properties that's weird that's pretty weird yeah it's pretty weird but so weird so mate

i'll tell you what man do you think she was justified in calling the police if she heard a loud shot and saw somebody carrying a long gun yes yeah that's that's that's a good question it depends on like what kind of air gun we're talking here if it was really obvious it was a toy then maybe not i i definitely understand it especially if she didn't know the parents but you know a situation like that can get out of hand and if you're against police intervention and virtually everything and you think folks need to be solving their problems on their own obviously there's like a bit of hypocrisy there i'll be fair to her though so she has this tweet where when she was talking about defunding the police she posts a photo of an mrap and she says we've militarized the police

so could it be that i i think i agree with, by the way. Right. I do, too. I do, too. So that's why, you know, I want to I want to make sure I'm being fair to Alyssa Milano. And it's not I think I think she was justified in calling the cops if she's a high profile individual and someone's walking around with a weapon. Yeah. And I think it's not necessarily hypocritical to say that the police have been militarized in many areas they shouldn't have been. Yeah. And then to want to call a couple sheriffs to come and deal with someone walking around your property who's armed with a long gun. Yeah, I think that's fair.

The bigger problem with this story is how defund the police doesn't mean anything. Also true. Define defund the police. Right, because what it sounds like is, I don't like the way that guy runs, so I want to take his shoes away to punish him and somehow that's going to make him a better runner.

Defund the cops. Right, exactly. And I think the talking point you used to hear was that we need to train the police more properly or better, which is something I would agree with. You defund the cops. in the military in both Iraq and Afghanistan. So he told me, and again, this is his experience, this is anecdotal, but I mean, he told me based on his experience and how well he was trained with a firearm, most police officers were not that great a shot and didn't train with their handguns often enough. I've heard that. Yeah. So I've actually was, I was actually told something really scary once in New York by somebody with, I'll just call it a source who had knowledge of the NYPD. They didn't work for the NYPD.

They worked in a legal capacity and they had done litigation with, with the police. They said this, they're like, you ever see fight club? No, you've never seen. It's been spoiled for me though.

So that's fine. It's fine. And there's a scene where the main character, I guess Edward Norton's character, we call him Jack. He's on a plane and he's explaining how he works as like this insurance, like cost prevention or whatever. I don't know, cost analysis guy. He said if the cost of the lawsuits are less, basically the idea is if lawsuits are more expensive than the actual, or no, no, no.

They won't recall a car if it kills people if they can save money. That's the gist of it. Yes, exactly. So i'm like i'm forgetting the formula and i'm trying to trying to say it i can't do it but the general idea was this so i was on this guy and he said you ever seen fight club and i was like for sure and he goes okay if the cost of training police is more expensive than the cost of the lawsuits they don't train the police wow so when the cops go out because he's like how often do cops actually use their firearms?

Rarely. Very rare. Very rarely. Very rare. So if they're going to train every single cop properly and have them re-up and do all the stuff, and they rarely ever use the gun, that seems like a big waste of money for the city. Now, if they go off and they have to use it and they fire randomly because they don't

know how to actually use it and they hit a bunch of people, how much we got to pay? Training all the cops could cost $50 million. The lawsuits cost $30. We don't train the cops that's fascinating well i gotta clarify that i didn't think about that he didn't work for the police like litigation that's what i'm saying it's fascinating like yeah i can't confirm or deny that but it's certainly interesting i know that um so a number of my police off a number of my uncles were police officers on the south side of chicago and one thing they would uh complain about was the fact that defense attorneys will also tell their clients in many circumstances to just file a complaint a complaint

against a police officer whether or not it's valid because it can be easier to get them out of trouble and if you get enough of your clients to accuse enough police officers then the accusations start to build up and each accusation becomes more credible and it's much easier for you as a defense attorney or a criminal defense attorney to do your job think about uh activists that do that it's like hey accuse that guy of whatever so that we can get him fired exactly take his job away to stable the destabilize the department yeah like the supreme court yeah so so there's a viral tweet where they're talking about the supreme court and someone said something like 25 of the supreme court have have credible accusations against them yeah what

is credible credible allegations and i'm like what i i accuse you of stealing my orange yeah good sir i grump and that's actually true i did steal an orange i'm dirty dirty yeah and thief you're a thief yeah no it's insane well so you confess yeah no but the point is like i can accuse you of anything i i sir i accuse you of tp'ing a tree in front of my house and you're like what that's ridiculous it doesn't matter yeah it doesn't matter well that's accused you well one problem i think is that people that do false accusations uh they don't get in much trouble afterwards i mean they might get in a little but like if someone falsely accuses you of murder and you have to go through you know the

ringer and then it turns out it was wrong i don't get charged for murder yeah exactly the punishment yeah well and that's the thing part of it's complicated because like when you look at christine blaise ford for example when when i made my comment what i'm not trying to get at is that she was necessarily lying but the evidence really does not hold up what she's saying it's possible she was confused it's possible she didn't have ill will but the people who are running with it were clearly running with it for reasons of political convenience nah man nah you don't think so dude she said she was scared to fly and then she was asked do you feel like you flew to these island vacations he's like yes so you think she's just lying my personal opinion um yeah okay yeah i i just want to give her the benefit of the doubt but the point is the accusations against

cavanaugh held no water. Listen, it's amazing how many people are scared to just say she's a liar. Conservatives, for the most part, have no problem doing it. But it's like, come on, dude. 30-year-old allegation. She didn't know where it was. She didn't know how she got there. She had no witnesses.

Nothing backed her up. No, I agree. I agree with all that. No one agreed. Even her friends were like, what is she talking about? Yeah. No, no. I agree with all that. I was so traumatized.

I installed a second door to my home. And then they were like, actually, that was the Airbnb you set you set up yeah i'm actually traumatized and scared to fly do you fly yes did you fly recently yes how far did you fly thousands of miles you're flying on cross country like she like flew to like new zealand or something i don't know the exact where she flew but it's like you how how how is that she's able to say these things and no one did an investigation because it's clear that she's lying? No, I mean, I'm just giving her an extreme benefit of the doubt. All of that's very compelling, and I understand where you're coming from.

And again, I agree that the accusations were, like you said, contradicted by the evidence. I'm just careful to call anybody a liar. That's a good point. That's a good point. She could be unwell. Yeah, that was mostly my thought, is that she's a mentally ill person and and i've and i've been saying this a lot man that uh antifa preys upon these people there's actually a really interesting story we gotta talk about i cover i talked about this on my 1 p.m segment there you know what gang stalking is no no gang stalking is this paranoid delusion

that people have where they think like operatives or agents are always spying on them interesting and they'll think you're a spy they'll like you'll meet them and they'll be like they'll look at you and they'll be like are you one of them say yes or no oh and you'll be like uh excuse me you are so that's actually really sad they tell their friends and family like you know someone's spying on me and they'll say where like there's a camera in my house i'm telling you it's in the light i know it's. They think around every corner there's an agent or an operative. The New York Times wrote about this. And what's really interesting is that they talk about how after 9-11, this like skyrocketed, this view of agents and gang

stalking. And they use the internet to find like-minded people who experience the same thing, to form collectives, to take action over a shared delusion, even though they all contradict each other. And it seems to make no sense. Wow. What's interesting about this is that when you take that concept after 9-11, all these people thought they were being spied on by the government. Patriot Act, NSA, all that stuff, right? Now you have in the mainstream media, all this talk about fascists and white supremacists. And what do we get? Fascists are stalking me. I'm not even, I'm not even exaggerating no no i believe it it was jonathan k of quillette who tweeted about this and i thought it was it

was really inside it was i was like i didn't even i never thought about that because they had this woman who was claiming that someone broke into her car and it was clearly a white supremacist who was harassing her and stalking her because she's an activist and tons of other people started tweeting the same things yes they're stalking me and harassing me. Then you look at what Andy Ngo does, right? Andy Ngo covers the people who get arrested. He covers the protests and the riots. And he says, like, this person got arrested for felony arson, blah, blah, blah. And then they start saying that he's feeding the white supremacists our information.

And it's gang stalking. It's the same thing. They think that the person around the corner is a fascist. They're everywhere. They literally think there's millions of people. It sounds like a shared paranoid delusion these people are experiencing. thing they think that the person around the corner is a fascist they're everywhere they literally think there's millions of people it sounds like a shared paranoid delusion these people are experiencing there are no white supremacists there's like in this country of 328 million there's estimated between a high estimate is like 11 000 according to like anti-defamation league or

you know some of these organizations so they're not stalking you they're just but they believe it so you have you have antifa targeting people who are unwell who think these things are true using them to do things to benefit them convincing them to commit crimes convincing them to hurt people and they go around and they do it they're justified because they all share this delusion so if someone says i swear oh fascist was following me me too too. That it must be true. Yeah. That one guy that killed the dude.

You know what I'm talking about? The guy was wearing a MAGA hat or something. Oh, he said my friend was in danger. I had to kill him. And I was surrounded. I was surrounded. There were cars with that guy, that guy, Michael Reinald. He said to Vice News that there were cars all around with Trump supporters with weapons. That dude was one of the, he probably had one of these like paranoid delusion of gang

stalking things going on. I think people that think they've been abducted by aliens also are experiencing that. Some kind of paranoid delusional psychosis or whatever. And then here's what happens. You get someone who's sitting there shaking, being like, they're everywhere. And you go, they are, but they're not agents. They're actually fascists. They are.

Yeah. Trust me. I see him too. You're the only one who believes me that's right come with me take this now throw it at that building and they do and then guess who gets arrested not the guy who handed the explosive the guy who threw the explosive they use these people and so you know we're talking about christine blasey ford i'm not for all we know that she was just a she's an unwell person and they were like it really did happen don't you remember it did she's like it did and then when they actually scrutinized her and she didn't have people telling her she's just like i don't know i don't remember i don't know no all the witnesses denied it ultimately i think she was just lying i mean that's a simple solution, right? Like, look,

Occam's razor suggests the simple solution tends to be the correct one. That's not a law. That's just something people point out. It doesn't necessarily mean that in every circumstance you can say it's true, and it doesn't mean he ever actually mathematically tested it, because you can't, really. But it is an idea that I think most of us agree upon.

Don't take things too far. It's probably just you know more simple than that simple solution here is she's lied they want to stop brett kavanaugh by any means necessary they accused him he was already vetted right yeah so brett kavanaugh was a federal judge which means he went through the vetting process in the confirmation process they were going through it again and then all of 30-year-old vague nebulous stories start popping up. But it's also possible that they were both 18 and blackout drunk. And she vaguely remembers getting forced.

I don't think she said they were drunk, right? I don't remember. I don't remember all the specifics anymore. It's been quite a while. I just remember there wasn't a lot of evidence. And the media was completely on her side. Yeah, yeah. It's ridiculous.

She said that she was at a party at someone's house. And Brett Kavanaugh and his friend were like they were like went upstairs and she went with them. And then he pinned her on the bed and jumped on top of her. And then she was like panicking. And then his friend jumped on him and they rolled over and then she got up and ran away. That was it. And then from that, what did we get? Accusations that Brett Kavanaugh was contributing to drugging women and keeping them in rooms

where men would line up outside the door taking turns. And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then they held up a picture of him making a really icky face when he was called a rapist for several hours. And they're like, look at this man's face. Does this look like the face of a man

who isn't a rapist? That was kind of what they were going on. That was the face plastered on everything. And it was him like crying. It was his face like he was about to cry which is reasonable but they make it look like he's snarling geez man i think because justices get get appointed for life people are terrified of who the justices are yeah well they kind of should be and they're like freak like the way that they're gonna want to impeach before he even appointed anyone. It's not hilarious. Can you, what do you think would happen if they tried to impeach him right now? For what?

I know. But if they tried, they would destroy themselves. They would totally destroy themselves. To be fair on this point too, because I brought it up. Nancy Pelosi was asked by George Stephanopoulos, would you consider impeaching Trump or Bill Barr? And then she said, well, you know, we've got a bunch of options. And then her brain snapped and she went, good morning.

But what she should have said is we don't have any reason to impeach him. She could have just said, why are you asking? Well, why would I? That's ridiculous. Not what impeachment's for, sir. What kind of a question is that? This isn't just like a political play thing that we can use. But she wanted it.

She wanted it. She wanted that news cycle. So she was like, well, we have our options. And then Trump was like, now they're talking about impeachment. They're going to impeach me. How dare they? They did. Did this a second time?

Yeah, I could see them threatening. It's a little bit more angrier, though. It's a little angrier. Some people are saying that Nancy Pelosi wants to impeach me. We don't like that very much. I don't like that. And then, I mean, I mentioned it, but her brain broke. I saw that clip.

What do you think that was? She's just older and under a lot of stress, I mentioned it, but her brain broke. I saw that clip. What do you think that was? She's just older and under a lot of stress, I think. Well, hold on, hold on. So for those that aren't familiar, Nancy Pelosi was talking. She was asked about impeachment. And then George Stephanopoulos responded, but you're saying you won't take impeachment off the table. And she goes, good morning, Sunday morning. We have an obligation to the American people,

and people were like, what was that? That was weird. She just like, brain turned off. I guess that can happen every now and again when you have, again, a really high-stress job in old age, but it's definitely unsettling. She's old. She's really old.

I mean, it happens to Joe Biden way more often, if we're being fair. Oh, for sure, for sure. Should we have an age limit? No. I don't know. No, because especially with with genetic therapy the way we can advance our age we'll be 130 you know do you think so yeah i don't know if i believe that but i i actually don't know how to answer the question i mean at some point i don't know if i would put as hard age limit as much as i would say like all right this person is clearly in a position where they're

no longer able to govern and it's funny because for years and years and years this was a punch line all the way through my childhood, right? And I was born years after Ronald Reagan had already died. There's this joke, oh, isn't it so hilarious that Ronald Reagan was going senile at the end of his life and the Republicans had this president who is sort of losing it and slipping in old age. And how incompetent are they? And then the Democrats went out of their way and chose to nominate a man whose brain is

clearly not functioning properly when they had many other options. With Reagan, I've heard that he had some information and they wanted to testify and get it out of him and he didn't want to give up the information so he said that he was going senile and couldn't remember. I wouldn't know anything about that. But then he really went senile. Yeah, exactly.

Self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't know. Didn't you think that movie War Game was like a real thing? What? You know that movie where the kid like what was it? You know the movie where the kid like what was it you know the movie where the kids playing the computer game and it's new project yeah was that it and the computer is going to fire nuclear missiles or something and he thought it was real and he was like oh no what yeah i don't know about any of that something like that i just know that that was the bit that they always did everyone always thought it was hilarious that reagan was

slipping and it was just indicative of this grave incompetence on the right side of the political aisle and then they had the choice and picked Joe Biden. He was old, too. If you're saying that you think we're going to live to be like 130, then what about these lifetime appointments for Supreme Court justices? We've got to change it. It's got to change. They used to live not that long. No, they lived 60, 70 maybe.

Life expectancy has only gone up a little bit. We desperately have to change the life appointments. It should be 40. I don't know. I think that's – I'm really skeptical of the idea that we'll be able to extend the human life expectancy that long. And if we do, I think that's a bridge we would really need to cross once we got there. For now, I would just say maybe there's something to be said about a person being too incompetent to do the job anymore and you have that discussion. I don't know that I would

set a hard age limit for it. Yeah. What about term limits? Because look at Thomas Sowell. I mean, we haven't heard from Thomas Sowell much lately, but he's certainly getting older and he's just as sharp and brilliant as he's ever been what do you think about term limits for justices for justices that's a tough one i don't know i really don't know i haven't thought it through enough i've actually never really given that specific question any thought so it wouldn't probably wouldn't be responsible for me to answer all a lot of like what this conversation specifically is predicated upon whether or not life expectancy will be exponential but there's a are you guys familiar with aubrey

degray yeah you might be is he's that guy with the really long beard yes yes i've heard a few uh and talks from him i i i saw him speak once and he said that we that he said what did he say that like people under the age of 45 and this was i think this was 10 years ago will live to be a thousand and he said i don't either but his point was yeah it's ridiculous gone well but his point was this he said it's not that we're going to one day invent this pill that you just take and all sudden you know you live to be a thousand it's that you're going to turn 50 and they're going to cure this you're going to turn 55 they're going to cure this and then medical technology is going to start advancing

faster than people are dying. So you'll always be sick, you'll always be weak, you'll always be dying, but they'll constantly be treating and curing and rejuvenating. And then so it's kind of like this period where we're dipping

and then we pull back up and medical technology keeps us alive. I don't know, if we have lifetime appointments under the assumption that, you know, these people will die at some point, we still have the problem of people who become completely incapacitated serving on the Supreme Court. Maybe cognitive tests or something.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's interesting what you're saying about life expectancy. And you sort of alluded to this earlier when you said life expectancy has not significantly grown. People will say like, oh, in in the past life expectancy was only 30 but obviously that's because there's so much infant mortality changing the average it wasn't out of the ordinary or totally unheard of for a person to live to 80 or 90 or even 100 but it is out of the ordinary for a person now to live to like 130 140 uh in fact i don't think anyone's ever lived that long so that's why i'm skeptical that our medical technology will ever get us to the point where that's possible have you heard of nicotinamide mononucleotide? No, sir. NMN, you can get it.

You can buy it. And you take it with resveratrol, which is the active chemical in red wine, in purple vegetables, eggplant. It causes the telomeres to regrow. So your proteins, you have these proteins called sirtuins in your body. And there's five of them. One of them measures the energy in your mitochondria. So when a cell splits, if it doesn't have enough energy, one of the new cells doesn't have enough energy, so it clips off the end caps of its telomeres to compensate.

But if the measurement process is accurate because the sirtuins are good, then when the cell splits, both stay alive and the telomeres stay healthy and long. As you get older, this sirtuin, too, SIRT2, starts to degrade. But with NMN, nicotinamide mononucleotide, and other chemicals, they keep pumping the SIRT2. Your body keeps making the sirtuins. So you basically don't get older is the idea. So what you're saying is we should all get blood transfusions from young people who do nothing but eat healthy and work out at the gym.

Oh, my. Doesn't Peter Thiel do that? What is that stuff called? Is that word banned on YouTube? Yeah, I have no clue. Can it get us demonetized? Blood transfusion? No, no.

It's the chemical they get out of the blood. No. That's not real. Anyway, no, Tim. The answer is no. The answer is no. But I'm sure it's a real conspiracy theory. I'm sure it's a real conspiracy theory.

I think people do that. I'm sure someone believes that. Maybe. I think people do do that, don't they? Really. They do. I could be wrong, but I read that Peter Thiel did it. Maybe that's not true.

Maybe it's a smear of him that wouldn't, you know, so. People used to eat human hearts, you know, for their courage, right? Yeah, exactly. Well, and that does work. You gain their courage? I think so. Is that what you've been, is that why you're so comfortable and brave? Exactly.

That's why I just speak my mind. That's why I make internet card chains. I'm very courageous. That's right. So let's talk about, you know, the Supreme brave? Exactly. That's why I just speak my mind. That's why I make internet card changes. I'm very courageous. That's right. So let's talk about the Supreme Court, man. Yeah. Supreme Court. Mitt Romney, I guess, is kind of pulling back a little bit.

He said he's not going to promise Trump he's going to give him the vote he needs, even though he said he was going to vote to confirm whoever. But you think, I guess everyone's saying it's going to be Amy Coney Barrett. And the concern is that she is a devout Catholic. And so the left is... Concerned for whom, sir? Well, the left is concerned for themselves. Yeah.

You know. Well, and we talked about this a little bit earlier, but she's also a constitutional originalist. So they're saying she's going to implement this radically Catholic interpretation of the Constitution when she herself has said she actually just wants to look back to what the Founding Fathers initially intended. Because that is the job of Supreme Court justice. That's what you're supposed to do. We were talking with, I think it was Colin Wright,

and I hope I'm not putting words in his mouth because maybe I'm misremembering, but he said something like he would prefer kids learned creationism over the social justice stuff. And so I'm like, well, now you've got a liberal who's going to be in favor of a devout Catholic Supreme Court justice because of the potential that you get a hard left identitarian cultist. Oh, yeah, but you don't want the worst of two things.

I don't know. I disagree that she's the worst also. I mean, people are calling her like a Catholic extremist, but she's just a practicing Catholic. It's funny. People – part of the reason that you know Joe Biden is not a practicing Catholic is because the media has has never called him a religious extremist which is what they always do when you follow the most basic tenets of the catholic faith i mean she's pro-life and she doesn't want catholic companies to be forced to pay for abortifacients which i think or birth control which i think is like pretty straightforward that's not an extremist belief in fact i know many non-religious people uh who

believe that and uh she has seven children god forbid how dare she so she's crazy and different and weird did you did you see the tweet where they said it was uh what do they call it terrorism there was a there was a viral tweet it's like a woman with like her she had nine kids and then her on her belly was like number 10 and it said like this is terrorism or something like that wow yeah i think it's just aggressive i think it's just confrontational no um what was it that they said about antifa they're just a little confrontational yeah i think that's like why is why is procreate why would procreating be terrorism like who's forcing her to have these children she's just having these children dude you could have one

kid and be a horrible parent and have 20 kids and be a fantastic parent yeah exactly exactly i mean historically it was normal to have many more children i like the idea that that's terrorism is so stupid like i don't even know where to begin with it well they're just saying it because you have like this social justice narrative yeah you know children bad yeah kids bad it's bad for it's bad for the climate you know you can't have kids overpopulation the way we're we're formed on the earth not the number of us of course yeah exactly i don't even say it's not even so much like the way that we're formed, because as we were talking about this a little bit earlier, but there are certain resources that we've been depleting, I suppose, like fossil fuels. But as the population has increased, global poverty has decreased. It's not as if there's been this fierce competition for resources with each new mouth, because every single person is also an asset. I mean, people create things and they tend to create more than they themselves will need.

And so it passes on to everybody else. But so we were talking about this, too. I think we will eventually have an overpopulation problem. Simple math. If at a certain point we can't have more people because there's a finite amount of space, you know, and we need a certain amount of space for farming. I've been looking at like how grow certain crops in a garden. I'm not talking about starting a farm or anything like that. And they talk about the certain amount of acreage you need and stuff.

So clearly there's a mathematical formula for how many people can exist with how much farmland you have. At some point we'll hit that number. Yeah, I think if that's possible, then it's something that would sort of work itself out and we would hit an equilibrium. And I'm sure you would agree that population control is nowhere near being the answer to this kind of a question but equilibrium you know what that means for like most no i yeah i don't know yeah it usually means people starving but i i don't know that human i don't know that humanity is ever going to get there well we're going to i don't believe we are we'll send people to mars but think we can build cities in the sky so check this out do you think so yeah this is a long-term idea but the way boats work in the ocean you have

a hollow tube basically a hollow circle that floats in the water because it's lighter than the water so if you had a hollow circle in the air that's lighter than the air basically a vacuum like a like like a hot air balloon and we could name it something after a guy maybe like um hindenburg hydrogen is lighter than the air around it. Gigantic. Huge mass of structure in the sky. Have you been watching Up? It's lighter than air. No, I've never seen it. No, that's actually...

You should watch it. It's a beautiful film. You fill the chamber with lots of little circles with like hydro gel. You can pump it with lighter than air materials. And I think we can get giant land masses to float. And then we can plant crops. I don't think we could do it that way. It's one way.

Apparently, in Venus, we could. They're like floating. There's like really dense dense gases and you could like make a floating city so there's been like sci-fi that i've talked about it yeah but people don't talk about the problem with mars is that there's no uh magnetosphere right right you'd have to create one but how do we do that do we like bring a bunch of mag have you seen the core that movie where they like yes they nuke the core of the is that we're gonna do why would you do this have you seen if you see that big gash on mars it's like hundreds of thousands of miles long it looks like some planetoid hit mars and scraped across it and ripped it open so all the iron spewed out of it

in magma and that's why it settled as iron oxide dust all over the surface interesting so like it's core got gutted or it's it's magma got gutted yeah i have no idea but it probably should still have a core i just don't it's it's should still have a core. I just don't... It's not quite as... I don't know anything about Mars. Elon thinks we should read the poles to get it started. Wait, Elon said what?

That we should nuke the poles of Mars. Interesting. But how many nukes would you need for that? Yeah, exactly. Like all of them? We'd have to ask him. What if a couple of them just miss Mars and then it's going to...

Because it's actually hard to get things right at the exact window where they're going to hit something that far away. So you just have a couple nukes go past and then we start an intergalactic war. Hundreds of thousands of years later, millions maybe, it just hits some planet. It's still active. We plant the bombs. You have to plant the bombs.

Oh, yeah. So I'm imagining it's really funny. Watching this nuke just like it narrowly misses. And then I can imagine a song like Spanish Flea playing. Is it like for 100 million years years is just drifting aimlessly and then finally reaches this ridiculously intelligent advanced species with interstellar travel but they've they've lost the ability to enter like to stop this because oh my god it's like what do we do it's like i don't know we haven't dealt with nukes in like 5 000 years and then it like blows up one of their colonies so

they're like war and they come to earth and it's like it's a decaying blob of nothing and like it's been hundreds of millions of years there's nothing left humans are gone it's wiped out oh i sure hope not but maybe we're on mars because we nuked it was successful and we got up to the poles then i just figured it out what is it what actually happens is if it's just traveling physically through space yeah and eventually we discover interstellar travel like wormholes and stuff it hits us yeah i was gonna say what yeah what if the universe is just repeating like pac-man you get to one end and it comes back the other way and then it is just comes back and hits us well i don't mean that but i mean like no i know we if if uh this is something really really we're gonna get into sci-fi i guess we got so much political stuff to

talk about but i want to talk about it so if uh i was like watching star trek and stuff and seeing them you know or not even that like battle star galactica where they travel great distances if a group of people right now went on say elon musk's spaceship to mars or maybe not mars maybe they're going to go to like alpha centauri or some planet very very far away and like it's going to be ayear journey, they'd be like 50 years in and we'd catch up and be like, look at those old people. That's hilarious. Our technology would advance to the point,

theoretically, where we beat them to it and when they land, we're already there and we're like, man, you guys have a long time to go. What if we're already there? What?

We found a way to get there so quickly that we got there before we left? The people that left Earth 100 million years ago, their technology is, or 30,000 years ago, they've advanced so much more quickly than us that they're already there waiting for us. The people that left Earth 100 million years ago, their technology is – or 30,000 years ago, they've advanced so much more quickly than us that they're already there waiting for us. The people that left Earth 30 – Yeah, 20,000 years ago. Well, I don't know.

That doesn't make sense. It's possible. Yeah, I wasn't sure if this was a theory or – I don't think that makes sense. What I'm saying is if right now a ship left and then it's like 100 years out and then we have better technology and then we're faster – Or if the people on the ship – They'd be so embarrassed, dude. They'd be like – I know would pass them by better technology. They'd be so embarrassed, dude. They'd be like...

I know. They could work either way. They'd be so embarrassed. So embarrassed. Like, oh, man, I just wasted my life. They would land on, like, this ridiculously developed place, and they would be, like, super archaic, anachronistic. Well, what we would have to do is just make them feel better

by not letting them know that we beat them there, and just making some part of the planet look like it's completely unterraformed-terraformed like yeah no you guys are the first to get there good for you yeah part of why when we colonize mars it's going to be like the internet's so important because if they develop at a different rate than the people on earth i think there could be mass chaos intergalactic chaos between two you know ourselves yeah imagine this we send a ship out it's like a 500 year journey so people are dying and being born and dying and they know very little about the home home world then the then within 200 years we develop faster travel we colonize other planets

then we end we end up getting into war with the other colonies and humans yeah create factions and then when they land they're all taken prisoner. You're under arrest. You're enemy faction. And they're like, we were from the year 2200. And it's what year? And the other big problem that no one really talks about is that the solar system itself is moving. The planets are moving. And time dilation, right? So if you're on this planet that's traveling a certain amount of kilometers per hour with the whole solar system, the planet's spinning a certain amount of kilometers an hour, and then you travel to another planet that's going much, much slower or faster, wouldn't you then experience time living on that planet very differently to Earth?

Huh. Yeah, I don't know. Time is relative. It's motion. It's relative motion. So it's relative to the galactic core, for instance. If you're moving faster than the core, it's going to look like things are happening faster outside. It's so confusing.

Interesting. I was all sawed in my wheelhouse. Me too. I don't think anyone truly understands time because it's just a measurement of motion. And if everything's moving, then how can you even have a clock? So like, okay, we need a galactic clock that just shows where you are in the galaxy and where you will be in one solar year. And so it moves faster in certain areas. Yeah.

So imagine, yeah, that'd be crazy. You're like, you're on a planet and the clock's going really fast and you're like, those are the days. And your time is just going to be your location. So the way you'll be like,

it is 24, 32, 71. That means you can plot me in this area of the galaxy. And next year, my time will be, and then you give the new location because they're moving so fast. Yeah,

that's also true. They're going to need to give you coordinates of where do you think it's even ever really going to be possible to achieve that kind of space travel it's all so much more complicated than we understand and what if there is no space travel what if we're in a simulation and this is the final season why would this are that well it's to entertain it obviously to entertain a hypothetical it would be an entertaining season you know i kind of it's it's like jumping the shark jumping the shark a little bit i think it's early on in the show like season two season

season three because we just got tv no it's too absurd like every like when donald trump won it was clear that the writer was like uh donald trump becomes president like that wrote viewers back it's like episode seven season two but then when you really think about it that's that's sort of novel to us but historically stranger things have happened that donald trump becoming president though that was let me tell you that night my goodness none of us expected it i didn't it like the new york times meter was 99 hillary clinton yeah what'd you think that night i was laughing really hard actually my brother tells this story my brother tells a story that he called me like i was literally laughing hysterically just because i thought it was so like there was not a single

angle i could examine it from that was not really really funny like there was this woman who's just unbelievably crooked and has all of the traits that make a really savvy and unscrupulous politician has spent her entire life striving for one single political position and then this one guy wakes up one morning and he's like i could be president and he beats her and to me that is comedy you know it is it is and i love that line trump was like i ran for president one time i'm sorry i'm sorry he said i ran for public office one time and i became president that's hilarious it is he's a funny guy and then him just like walking on stage with that big smile he has like you can't always get what you want was playing and oh i i'm telling you dude i was i was in

tears laughing i just you can't always get what you want he loves that song it's hysterical it's so funny and then i guess hillary didn't come out john podesta was like we're gonna go to bed we'll be back and then there was no like yeah talk about the salt mines that day i know you were if you were a salt miner, you were rich that night. Oh, my goodness. Yes, you were. Well, so the one regret I really have from my college experience is that I did not have any classes scheduled the day after the election took place,

and my friends did. And from what they said, like, there were kids crying in class. He said one of my friends had a teaching assistant, like, started tearing up as they were explaining the situation. One friend sent me, like, a Snapchat of a student under a desk crying. I mean, it was bad. And it's funny because the media was plastering these images everywhere of people on their side of the political aisle crying, which revealed something interesting about their psychology, which is that they thought we were going to see that and sympathize with them. Can you imagine if Trump had lost and Trump supporters were crying?

They would have found that hysterical and if fox news or some right-leaning network tried putting that out there to gain sympathy they would have been scorched yep so it's just a fundamental inability to see somebody else's perspective like like someone's like well my taxes won't get raised then i'll be better able to feed my family no one's going to take my guns but i wish i didn't make that liberal arts student cry like uh what have i? So what are you going to do if Joe Biden wins? I'm going to cry. Are you going to?

I don't know. I'm going to laugh. I'm going to laugh. Dude, I honestly, I have no idea. And I have no idea. Earlier in the year before COVID happened and before the economy crashed, I would have said there's no way anyone else could win. I mean, all Trump had to do was not be a fascist, not be Hitler. And he wasn't a fascist,

and he wasn't Hitler. So he basically surpassed the expectations that the media set up for him. He did. And I'm, you know, he know, but that's the thing I'm understating, like he actually did well, the economy was okay. He hasn't started any new wars. He's actually been a good president in a number of ways, though he's certainly left something to be desired um if not much point is it wasn't until covet happened that i thought oh like maybe he doesn't have as much of a chance not that i'm blaming him for it but it's very easy to see how that narrative is going to be run with like we are under his watch and things aren't going very well so many conspiracy theories that it was intentional to get i've heard them yeah yeah i don't i don't jump on any conspiracy theory all these countries working together yeah exactly i don't that kind of international cooperation

you're telling me we got world peace already yeah what happened to the tucker girl that went on tucker and said it was a bio web uh weapon she got banned from twitter and then oh yeah gone i didn't even hear about back up to that any any she she she worked for the university of Hong Kong, and I don't think she had anything to do with any of the labs in China. So it really did seem like, look, she's an expert. We'll hear what she has to say. I don't believe it. I don't think any president could have come out of a COVID as a shining beacon of hope. Nobody did.

Nobody did. I mean, look, you had Nancy Pelosi saying we should all go eat dinner in Chinatown. I think what didn't Joe Biden say that Trump's ban from China was, I don't know if he used the word xenophobic, but- He didn't say the ban was, he said something like, we need real leadership, not Trump's xenophobia. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. So I don't think anybody really handled it properly, but that said, Trump is the president. So he does have a special responsibility here. But what could he do? Yeah, I agree. I mostly agree with you. Not even COVID, but when I hear people say like, this is Trump's America and it's Trump's fault with the riots. And I'm like, what could he do yeah i agree i mostly agree with you not even not even covet but when i hear people say like this is trump's america and it's trump's fault the riots and i'm like what should he do yeah like does that's not that's not how the federal government works

i don't want to live like i don't want the president just going around yeah exactly there's like this fallacy that the president's like the gunslinger that's going to go out and kill the boar and feed the family it's his job to sit back watch and make sure no one does anything crazy he has veto power and and that's it. And even then, he can let them get a little crazy. You know what I mean? Yeah, the president is not supposed to get involved with everything. Now, that said, I understand the arguments that he should have been more involved in some ways with COVID-19, but it's all really, really complicated.

And so that's why I'm saying I certainly don't blame him for it. But I think that it's going to be easy to use that against him in the media, though whatever advantage they may have had, they've been doing everything they can to destroy by advocating for and apologizing for these riots and protests. What do you think Trump could have done better? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I think it's hard for me to pinpoint anything specifically, and that's why I'm not even saying he dropped the ball. But what I am saying is whenever anything bad happens under anybody's watch, it's easy to see why they're going to be blamed for it yep and uh there's there's nothing to compare it to yeah there's no relativity here we we people are looking at europe and they're like look what happened to this country and i'm

like europe is more densely populated but also you know very very large and you're comparing one country to like a bunch of different states like the u.s compared to germany it's not a question germany's microscopic europe as a whole lots of a conversation but then it's also got double the population on the so it's you can't do it you can't and they try and it makes no sense and then i don't know if you saw this but there was um i can't remember i think it was nevada that released the data about covid deaths some of the people who had died with COVID had like end stage renal failure. And so people are pointing out, if you want to know how we got to 200,000 dead, you need

to understand that some of these people were really close to death as it was. It is true that COVID caused it. But if you're someone with like end stage renal failure and you're on your deathbed and then you get COVID, you're going to die. You're going to die if you get a cold. I think what's going to have to be done, and I'm sure somebody's already thought of this or is working on this, but at the end of the year, at the end of the next two years, they're really going to need to compile some data on net deaths, like how many people died overall

in this past year as compared to the average. And then we can see how many of these COVID cases were just COVID versus people who are going to die of other diseases anyway. Right. Like exacerbation, I think is a better word than cause because if someone with end stage renal failure gets COVID, it exacerbates the real failure. Yeah. And of course, we still don't want them to get COVID. Absolutely not. But it's a different conversation than all of these people were just completely healthy and got COVID and then died. Yeah, exactly. I look, I'll just put it. It's really simple. If you want to have an argument with me about why Trump is bad, I'm listening, man. Tell me.

Tell me. Bring it on. But we don't get that. We just get, like, ridiculous nonsense. No real arguments about policy. They say, he failed us with COVID. What did he do wrong? I had my parents.

But what did he do wrong? My parents had an impeach Trump sticker on their back door when I went back to their house one time. I was like, what are you going to impeach him for? neither of them had any idea so i left the ukraine several months later and the sticker was gone oh nice there is semblance of nor of intelligence in even the most whack you know not that they're the most whack but i think people when faced with the truth or or like the reality of the situation sometimes can see that trump's not a demon he He's kind of a normal guy. You can go look at my videos. And from like 2018.

And I'm saying things like, look, Trump's not that bad. But come on, man. Missile strikes in Syria. Drone strikes. Commando raids. He's not doing great, you know, relative to foreign policy. So as far as I'm concerned, then what's happened in the past year? I used to say specifically, like for me, foreign policy is a big deal.

Yeah. What are we spending our money on? Why are we spending it? Why are we getting involved in other people's business? I understand sometimes like war happens and there's like conflicts between allies and people need our help. Sure. But what does it have to do with us? Yeah. And like, why are we aiding the Saudis in Yemen, for example? That's one thing that really upsets me about Trump is that he's kept that going. Money. But he admitted it. Interesting. I didn't hear that. Blurted it out. it out he was like oh we're making tons of money selling weapons really that's so horrible yeah i know that boeing profited like yeah i i know that that what boeing profited like 500 billion servicing the f12s that the saudi arabian government is using

which are sometimes used to bomb like fishing boats and fox it's really evil stuff i mean the weapons we supplied uh the russians sorry to interrupt there is the same weapons that al-qaeda used i just want to make sure i finish that point yeah sure sure the past year trump has been historic peace deals he's got no new wars so we did have the you know he was he was sort of playing the old game of the existing wars no new wars we have historic peace deals three historic peace deals we have the withdrawal from of the troops i got very little complaint about anymore his character sure but that's not the biggest factor it's not even the top five i should clarify is the weapons we supplied i think it was the afghani people against the russians in the 80s oh yeah the mujahideen yeah yes they

use those weapons against us yes yep hey do you guys think that the the job of the president is like it's no no good and should be changed like too much power for one person that we could formulate the power structure better? I think Trump is showing that the office can really be curtailed so long as we have a Congress willing to do it. Like I used to complain about the expansion of executive authority, but the reality was Congress just giving the power and just agreeing. But now that we have this psychotic, you know, two years of Democrat impeach, screech and get nothing done. Now you can really see how they've they've they've screwed up Trump's plans every which way. Constantly won't confirm, you know, his appointees and things like that. So, you know, his staff has been I think it's like a historically thin staff because they won't confirm a lot of people he's trying to put on. I can't get specific on that but i look at what they do and what trump wanted to do and how they're jamming him up to an

absurd degree and i'm like you know part of me i'm kind of like i like the idea that the executive branch is kind of getting some comeuppance and getting their power pulled back yeah but it's a little bit too much like they've gone insane it's one thing to be like we're not going to go to war and we're going to pull our troops back to then to be like we're going to impeach him because you know he had a phone call with some guy so the fact that they have to go to extreme psychotic lengths is just to curtail the power of that office well and it's all i think that's that is how that's not what i'm saying at all like i'm saying they are they are psychotic and now that they are they're willing to actually use their powers to you know dampen executive A functional non-psychotic Congress.

Could still do it. Is the president too powerful with their executive authority? I hear you. Well, yeah, I think what we're kind of getting at is almost like the right thing done for the wrong reason. It's good to limit that kind of authority, but the reasons they're doing it for are dubious at best. But I would say that I think the federal government in general just has far too much power.

I mean, I'm certainly not as libertarian as I used to be, but I believe heavily in a principle called subsidiarity, which is basically that the most local possible authority to handle something should be the one handling it. And we should only go up to a higher, more powerful or centralized authority if we absolutely have to. But that's not what we've done in this country. I mean, over the past hundred years, so much has become federalized. It's a school system, particularly. And the idea of a public school system is actually really insane to me, the more that I think about it. It's something you take for granted growing up. But the idea

that we just sort of let the government raise our kids is kind of unthinkable, especially in the United States. I mean, I'm not in favor of either of these systems. But in some ways, I think you could argue that a universal health care system or the government being in charge of health care would be more appropriate to the American vision than the government being in charge of educating everyone's children it's showing now too yeah with covid being this the weirdness of kids having to wear masks and etc etc but like no no no it's the kids in cubicles like oh they've spaced all the chairs out and then put them in these plastic bins and i am i'm becoming a uh more of a proponent of homeschooling over time and it's not just

because the evidence has really borne out the fact that homeschooling kids tend to perform better, but it's the fact that when you really examine the situation, we don't even have to look at this through the metric of efficiency. We just have to say, is making a child sit in a desk for six to eight hours a day throughout their entire childhood a good thing to do to somebody? It wasn't for me, man. Does that make them a productive adult? Yeah, it wasn't for me. And this is not me. I went to public school, and look, I had a lot of great teachers. I love basically every teacher that I ever had. I'm not criticizing them, but the system is so broken.

And I just don't think it's optimal for educating our children. And it's not just that it isn't optimal. I'm not just making an efficiency argument. I'm making a moral argument. It's not good for them. It wasn't good for me. I got pushed around and bullied, you know, ha ha ha. But like I would, I would wait for other kids in the class to figure it out and they wouldn't

call on me anymore. I was like, I already got it. Come on, let's move on to the next problem. Let's fix, let's move, move, move. And I was in the wrong environment. I couldn't, couldn't figure it out. There are places that kids can go if they're smarter or dumber than other kids. But yeah, you know, for the most part, you just go to public school and that's just such

a mess. I think one of the biggest problems we have in this country is that from the ages of zero to five, kids don't do anything. Do nothing. What, is it kindergarten is five years old? Yeah. So what are you doing through these extremely important years of your life? Sitting around watching TV?

Well, yeah, that's a problem if you just sit your kid in front of the TV. Then this is why you need attentive parents, which is part of why I'm a proponent of homeschooling, right? Because it's not as if you just wait until that kid is five. The education starts early. And nobody is ever going to understand a child's mind better than their own parents will. And homeschooling isn't always just one parent homeschooling the kid. You have co-ops and you have different parents getting together in the neighborhood and educating, taking shifts with the kids. But I mean, smaller classroom sizes,

better test scores. Again, I think all the evidence is there for it. I think Peterson said that the kids' most formative years were like one to three ages yeah really yep that's fascinating so i i often ask people like uh if you want to figure out what you want to do with the rest of your life ask yourself what you were doing at a certain ages like what were you doing when you were 13 most people don't have a good answer about what they were doing wow so i was talking to a friend of mine and i said what do you what were you doing when you were 13 years old? And they responded, I don't know, hanging out with my friends. And I was like, you want to open a bar? And she went, Oh, I want to open a bar. And I'm like, yeah, because you want to hang out with people. I just want to sit around and drink.

So open a bar and then people will come and you'll be hanging out. You'll be doing what you did. I thought about this. Cause I'm like, I know, I know a bunch of people who went on to become like successful in various industries, skateboarding and music, and they've been doing it literally their whole lives. I had this really funny thought. You know we say it's like riding a bike? It's so easy to ride a bike, isn't it? No, it's easy because you were like two or three years old and your parents put you on the bike and then had you ride with training wheels. So from your entire existence, we've been taught how to ride bikes.

Guess what? You're an adult. You can get on a bike. You know how to do it. Imagine if instead of putting on a bike or in addition to it we taught them how to do math you showed them complex equations and you started teaching them more and more things or you gave them a skill look riding a bike is an important thing i'm glad i know how to do it and i i have memorized the cheat code for teenage mutant ninja turtles too i remember

this i've known this forever it's b-a-b-a up down b-a left right b-a spark start why do i know that what does it what do you get it gives you level select and 10 lives whoa that game was tough why did i why do i know that i haven't played that game in like 25 years repetition in early parts of your life a little more impressionable and that's what i was i was playing a game and i was taught this and i never forgot it dude memorizing phone numbers i don't know if you guys used to. Oh, yeah. And I had this before cell phone stuff. I have a book of all my friends' phone numbers and I just go down the list and memorize all

the numbers. That's awesome. Just have them on my head. But it was great for like memory retention. Yeah. Back in the day when you need to know who's a number. Like how old are you, James? I'm 25.

So you don't. Do you know? I remember having to memorize people's numbers. I mean, I didn't get my first cell phone until high school. So I did quite a bit for them. And now I don't remember anybody's phone number. No, never. It's memorize people's numbers. I mean, I didn't get my first cell phone until high school, so I had to do quite a bit for them. And now I don't remember anybody's phone number. No, never. It's sad that you just lose it.

Yeah. I used to remember like 50 to 100 phone numbers. Yeah. It's like, oh, yeah. Now it's... You know what's going to happen is... I was watching an episode of Outer Limits. We're just going to have our brains plugged in like the Neuralink or something.

But what if the power goes out? Yeah. Then you'll be sitting there like, oh, no i really hope not i really hope not i'm not volunteering for that if it ever becomes a reality because i wonder i'm skeptical of the fact that we ever really could interface with the human brain in that way have you seen the neural link no oh there was a elon did like uh i don't know what you call it but like he showed pigs that had the neural link implanted and that it actually functions and And it was like that movie Gamer where was it? What's the guy's name?

Michael C. Hall. Is that his name? Where he did like the puppet thing. And then all the people are just forced to do the same motions. So like Elon plugs in his neural link and then he plugs it into the pig. And then he goes like this and the pigs start like marching. And he's like, I'm kidding. I was thinking maybe the idea of power going out is like an archaic idea that will no longer exist in the future.

They have these nuclear batteries that are in carbon glass. So you may just have endless amounts of electricity forever that can't be solar flared out. Yeah, I don't know. It's so theoretical to me. I'm just so skeptical of all of that. I feel like so many predictions. Whenever we make predictions for the future, this is going to sound so um this is actually going to sound really really uh how should i put this vapid but look i mean the reality is either people like way over predict

or way under predict when you like look at a magazine like from the early 1900s what will the year 1909 look like they thought firefighters would be flying yeah yeah i remember i saw one where everyone was transported around in these like large hot air balloons it's very cool looking but every time i hear a prediction of the future i just i look and i think about that i think i already know the answer but would you plug your brain into the neural net 100 no never would you consider it would you wait no i just wouldn't i don't think i would do it you don't want to join the borg absolutely not i understand that resistance is futile exactly yeah not Yeah. Not for me.

This is why we need the Second Amendment. Yeah. No, but what if gives you the ability to like experience different worlds

and like virtual reality and this world's enough. Is it? Yeah, but you can't fly around shooting laser beams out of your eyes and throwing fireballs

at the, at the, at the, you know, the evil. You can't, you can't, you don't know what that's

right what if it like made you able to draw your art faster and better oh that's a good i i would still just want to use the computer what if you could download like jujitsu and then you just like you know like the matrix and you just click the thing and then you're like whoa and then you just knew everything i just feel like there would be so many unintended consequences and implications to that that I can't even begin to comprehend. I just can't agree with it. What I'm afraid of is that other people will plug in and then they'll start doing like for you, for instance, they'd start drawing and just so many people would be able to do

exactly what you did but better, faster that you'd fall behind. Communism. Uh-oh. Digital communism. Yeah. Neuralink. Everyone would be the same i would i would plug in you'd plug in and then we would sync and i would have all of your abilities

oh my goodness i'd be like now i am the freedom you'd steal from me that's exactly why i don't plug in i want anyone to steal my ideas the whole reason i'm afraid here so uh i want to just say one thing real quick sorry to everybody about the internet man it's like it's cutting in and out it's really bad oh no but it's fine because we're gonna we're gonna this this will be uploaded in in clips the next day and we're gonna get everything fixed by like probably tomorrow we we were climbing on the roof today laying cables and stuff and we've had it's like it's it's giving us ip issues and so it's just causing the internet to cut in and out and uh but we're gonna put up the full podcast on iTunes and everything, and the clips will be up tomorrow. So, you know, we'll keep talking about stuff.

How about we jump over to Bloomberg trying to buy the Florida vote? Mia Bloomberg. So this next story from the Daily Mail. Is Bloomberg trying to buy the Florida vote. Billionaire pays off more than $20 million in debt for 31,000 felons so they can vote in the state where just 537 votes decided the presidential election in 2000. Wow. Is it a dirty move to give people the right to vote? No.

That's my initial thought. No way, man. But he's a rich guy. He's putting his thumb on the scale. That's what we should use our money for is to help the people that are stuck then why don't we just tell them they can vote oh well we'd have to change the law to do that yeah so i don't know what you think is this is this playing dirty or is this the right the right move yeah i mean it strikes me as playing dirty but i have obvious biases here i know that he's just trying to get somebody elected who i very much don't like i'm

trying to think how i would feel if it was uh somebody doing that because they thought it would get a republican elected and if i'd feel any different about it. To me, I've become more and more wary of people just using massive amounts of money to try to influence political change. But on the other hand, I'm sure if I had billions of dollars, I would probably attempt to do the same thing. So it's difficult for me to say one way or the other. I'm sorry. I'm being a bit of a fence sitter here on this one. But it's something I need to give more thought to because I just heard this story today.

So I haven't really had time to fully put together my opinion how many how many right-wing people are dumping tons of money into do similar things like this but tell trump yeah yeah i'm a legit question like how many do you know i i don't know of any because i've heard of like we've all heard of the coke brothers the my pillow guy the my pillow guy oh he's the biggest you know those pillows i'm no i mean he does fun like like tucker carlson yeah yeah selling them pill selling them pillows but uh the mercers as well have been like their name you know, those pillows. No. I mean, he does fun, like Tucker Carlson, basically. Yeah, yeah. Selling them pillows. But the Mercers as well have been,

like their name has popped up. But it feels like there's way more left-wing rich people. Isn't that interesting? Yeah. It's just very intellectually fashionable in their circles. And it's funny because

we know that they said they were not going to, like Disney, for example, wasn't going to film in Georgia anymore because of the heartbeat bill. They said they could not in good conscience. I believe maybe this wasn't their exact language, but the idea was they could never film in a state that limited a woman's right to choose

to kill an unborn child. And then they went and they filmed in China where there are Uyghur concentration camps. And thanked the security forces that were enforcing it. And some people are saying, oh, well, they're complete hypocrites. I think it's even more insidious than that. They know that they're never going to be able to influence chinese policy they know who the higher authority is there but they believe that they can put economic pressure on georgia to change its laws who are these people this is disney they they which and they're going to dmca this are you talking about the georgia georgia the state or the country no the state of georgia yeah yeah they said they wouldn't film there because of the pro-life ruling or it was it was a heartbeat bill saying if there is a heartbeat you cannot abort wow so it's politically

expedient when it's expedient but fiscal when it's fiscal is that why they're in china it's fake it's because china has money and no one in china is going to complain and no one in america is going to complain about china so they get away with it yep this is this is like this everything we're seeing is what happens when there is no check on one political faction. So the left controls that they have a monopoly on the culture. So they've gone insane. Nothing makes sense. It's all just purely insane.

And the Republicans don't have a monopoly on government. So I find it really funny when the left says, you know, I'm I'm the counterculture revolutionary resistance. Woo hoo. Donald Trump is bad. And I'm like, yeah, the Republicans control the presidency and the Senate. That's powerful. But like the left has all culture, colleges, TV, video games, everything, movies. What about like like foreign oligarchs that are funneling money through Panama that are helping?

I don't even know who they're helping. Are they helping the Republicans? Are they funding? No, probably not. I mean, if you want to set up, if you want people setting up factories in your country where they pay dirt wages to, you know, in sweatshops, then Trump's not your guy. Trump's the guy who's like, bring the factories back. We already know that. Let me see if this is working.

I don't think it's working. Are we working at all? Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Okay. So we already know that russia is favoring trump right and then china is favoring um biden is correct because biden is not going to be the

one who brings the jobs back to the u.s no biden's going to be the one who brings them back to china right yeah well what about this what if russia spent 47 000 on facebook ads mostly unrelated to the election and it changed american democracy forever like that's what happened changed democracy i love how like that was this big smoking gun and it wasn't even russia actually it was russian companies right it wasn't even actually the russian government but going back to that gang stalking thing right where the people think they're being targeted yes have you ever been called a russian bot uh i have not yet i've been called worse things but i'm i'm sure at some point it's a really common thing you'll see people like you're a bot you're a russian bot

you're just a bot you're not real everyone's a robot common thing. You'll see people be like, you're a bot. You're a Russian bot. You're just a bot. You're not real. Everyone's a robot. They're all twinging at me. Do people call you the Tim bot yet? No. Oh. No? What? When Elon Musk plugs us in and does the neural link, we're all going to be Russian bots.

Vladimir Putin's going to hack it. It's going to be great when we look at the neural link and then, you know, everyone just knows what everyone else is thinking. Oh, yeah. That sounds fantastic. I kind of like it. Twitter was bad. I hate it.

Really? Yeah. You have to have some privacy. thinking oh yeah that sounds fantastic i kind of like twitter was i hate it really yeah you have to have some privacy they're gonna it's not gonna work because what if someone hacks your neural link it's gonna be exactly and then what does that what does that mean like what did the neural link do to the pigs like what was he doing it didn't look like it had any adverse effects no but like what was oh they were measuring like activity in the frontal lobe they found all the pigs most embarrassing thoughts and then told its friends yeah you need to go deeper into the brain to get that stuff um the threads are too thick right now but it was

measuring like what they were smelling was translating into electrical impulses into different areas and then they could read like kind of read what they were smelling i think i saw a long time ago probably like maybe three or four years ago i saw a video about this little device they made that they hook up to a cockroach's antennas and it puts electrical signals to them, which makes the cockroach move in certain directions based on what it thinks it's sensing. Yeah. And it was like, I guess, a little toy that they were like using with remote control to move the roach around, which is really freaky.

And I think one of the scientists who was discussing it, I watched a couple of videos on it and they were doing experiments with beetles and they said that they could tell that there were signals in the brain attempting to fight the electrical signals yeah so yeah it wasn't even as if this this uh yeah yeah it was actually fighting against the brain but still making them do it is that the future well so i don't know i was actually watching something about how i don't know exactly what it was i was reading something about how if they your equilibrium or uh you know the stuff in your ears that like helps keep balance oh yeah yeah they could alter your sense of balance so you're standing perfectly still but you feel like you're falling backwards

so you start trying to move forward and they could control your movements by tricking your brain's balance so you're like whatever you know yeah dude it's gonna make people control bots that have super abilities and you're gonna I just hope it all collapses if we if we could ever get to that point i would i would like to think industrial society would just collapse before then well hold on hold on let's say there's somebody who's a violent murderer right what what first let me ask you your honest opinion what do you do with a violent murderer you catch them they're caught they're subdued they're cuffed in the back of a car what do we do really bad murder really yeah yeah i mean bring them off to prison and then just pay for him to live in prison forever?

Yeah. I mean, I think if a society has the resources to sustain somebody like that without having to kill them, you should keep them alive. And so let's operate under the assumption that this guy says, I'll never stop. Ha ha ha. If you let me out, I'll kill again. And what would be the option to give him a neural link instead and then just disable murder murderous rampage yeah that's an interesting thought because it's so it's so hypothetical and what you're talking about is taking a person's free will but of course when

we put somebody in prison we're taking their freedom and it's worse yeah but we're also not taking away their ability to make choices that's that's really complicated because because then you start to get into the question of well what about the the different drugs that we give people to regulate their mood does that in some way take your free will from you because you're modifying the way that your brain works obviously that's a very different example but there's a spectrum some drugs we would agree do take your free will you're just not really able to function on them and make decisions you would make otherwise whereas some drugs not as much like you know like with um a drug you might be um prescribed for for depression or anxiety or something will

will have different effects on your brain than than others than maybe like hard street drugs but then the question is yeah what point do you reach the limit i don't know i think the the bigger fear i have it's so i i understand the idea i'm not necessarily a fan if you have like a violent murderer or a pedo or something, they'll never change. You put a Neuralink. You click a button. Boom. Gone.

All those behaviors are removed. Where's the line and who controls it? That's the scary thing. Yeah. So let's say you end up as a right winger. And they're like, ooh, let's get rid of that. Let's get rid of that. And then what happens is the reason why I'm really skeptical on the Neuralink stuff is you might get get the neural link thinking it's gonna be great i can connect to the internet i can just think i

can play video games i can literally go into skyrim world like have this thing into my brain it's amazing and then someone can hack into your brain and be like let's make this person a murderer and they think they're a duck and then you're gonna be like running around going like bashing your face into people like do you want to give someone access to your brain through the internet? No. Yeah, exactly. So do you guys know about like pacemakers and like insulin pumps and stuff? A little bit.

So these are things that people get because they would die without. They also have wireless connections in them so you can control them because you can't go in the body. So people have hacked them oh my goodness if someone's got like a pacemaker and you hack it you can do things to it's horrible right so the same thing with insulin pumps i went to i think i was at defcon which is the hacker convention and there was someone doing a demo of how they could wirelessly hack an insulin pump and you just kill somebody So imagine you have a neural link and Elon Musk is going to be encrypted

and I'm like, oh, come on. Encrypted will be cracked and then what? And they're going to keep playing the encryption race. I'm not going to be the guinea pig just to link my brain to the network so that when someone cracks the latest encryption, they get access to my brain in any capacity. I don't care for what reason.

I don't care if they're reading my vitals. You know what they can learn from your vitals? They can learn a lot about what you're doing doing they're going to be like looking at their phone going huh she was just pooping no that's okay that's my private time you know when i read the news you leave me alone but facebook knows just without even doing any of that stuff because they can just they know everything you're doing whenever you're doing it and your location like we're already getting that point and so i'll tell you this you know what you know what maybe maybe the answer is who cares just neural link you know why

we're already being manipulated what why why does twitter send me these random tweets you ever you ever get this thing where it's like so and so liked this and it just shows you and it's like donald trump does a backflip off the white house i'm like okay so i really do think uh i think a better way to put it is what Michael Malice said, actually. He said some really bad people got data on how much we're willing to take. That's fascinating, yeah. So they know they can do certain things because they know how we behave. And they'll do whatever they want until we reach that line, and then they'll dance right back off of it. But my main point about Neuralink is the things you see on Facebook,

the algorithm, it's going to shape what you want to do when you want to do it. I mean, I was reading something about studies where it said like a certain color room will have a certain effect on you. Like a red room will make you angrier. A blue room will calm you down. A yellow room makes you hungry or is more likely to. So what happens if Facebook decides, you know, those colored boxes that appear with text in them? What they say we're going to show only the red ones to the antifa people and so they're inundated by all this red and black and they're just constantly like and like angry even simpler um with a neural net you could have someone see like a red haze over everything a red filter and then they would get desensitized wouldn't even realize they're

looking through red and it might change their subconscious behavior i don't know what to what extent neural link could actually alter your brain alter the way you see they say it's going to make you see an infrared and and what i'm sure yeah there's i'm sure there's so much over promising with that too though he did say he was going to relaunch and land rockets and he made it happen like in three years yeah that's true through he's got us and he made it happen like in three years. Yeah, that's true. And he's building the starship tomorrow. He's building it. So I'll tell you what, man. You know what I want?

I want to play Skyrim or whatever the next Elder Scrolls is. I'm going to sit in my chair and I'm going to press the button and just like donk out and then I'm going to be in Elder Scrolls. You'll be able to play like six games at the same time. Don't do it, Tim. I wonder, yeah, so that's interesting.

Imagine if we could get to, again, extremely theoretical, but if we could get to a point where you could read somebody's thoughts or at the very least detect what kind of mood they're in,

and then you could sort of peek in and examine what mood they're in when certain concepts are being explained to them, then you'd be able to evaluate their political views or whether or not

they hold perspectives you consider to be unsavory. That's scary. Yep. But what's awesome is if you're playing Skyrim and then you forget you're playing Skyrim and you start playing another game with your Skyrim character and you're in the other game, you're like, you're... I think people would lose their mind.

I don't think people's psyche can handle that. They would think that they were in a video game once they were outside of the video game. Guys, guys, you're in the game right now. No, stop. I'm telling you. Keep telling me that. I think you're right. No way.

Have you guys there's this really funny comic where it's a there's like a guy opens a bag and there's a silica gel packet in it have you have you guys you don't silica gel packets no so when you when you buy like a piece of equipment there's a packet it's a silica gel it absorbs absorbs moisture okay it says silica gel do not eat and so the first panel shows him like opening the bag and he sees it and then he and then he looks at it he goes, big silica is not going to tell me what to do. And he throws it in his mouth. Oh, man. Then the next panel is him like a shocked face.

And then the last panel is him with a hat on with like wires coming out of it. And he's in a hospital. And there's two doctors saying, congratulations, you've escaped the simulation. I saw that one. It's really good. No, that is very funny. I saw that one. That cracked me up.

Big silica is not going to tell me what to do. And he eats it. I love it. I wonder if we're. It's really good. No, that is very funny. I saw that one. That cracked me up. Big silica. It's not going to tell me what to do when he eats it. I love it. I wonder if we're being controlled from a distance. I don't think so. In what way? Like our brains are electromagnetically being told how to pull on our muscles. We got these jellyfish creatures in us, like the brain and brainstem floating in this meat sack.

That's basically what we are is the brains and the brainstem, this creature that's like with electrical impulses pulls on the muscles. i think that seeing the brain is too separate from you though i mean like we're a body soul composite and your brain is part of you your brain is not the separate thing all of you is you one creature like all of you is you though is it man yeah i believe so pulling on meat i don't know man haven't you ever heard stories about how like when people get organ transplants and then all of a sudden they like get memories or they like pick up behaviors? I don't know if any of that's true. Yeah, I have no clue.

There's neurons in your stomach. I assume not, but you never know. It's more than your brain because they have neurons in other muscles. Well, I don't even know. But I guess you're sort of boiling it down to neurons are you. And I would say you extend beyond neurons. So like is there something out there that's you that's telling your neurons how to behave? Or maybe not.

Maybe out there. maybe in you. I mean, I believe in a soul and I believe that we are a body soul composite. So I wouldn't limit me to just my brain and say that my body is something separate from it or that my soul is something separate from it. I think you are all of it. I think I figured it out, bro. Oh no. The answer to everything.

What is it? We're not, it's not a simulation that we're in. We're in a video game. All right. Your soul is actually you like you're in a video game all right your soul is actually you like you're playing the video game right and heaven is when you beat the game and you get the awards after the game is over and guess what the point of the game is high score baby make as much money hoard it all oh my goodness oh my goodness i got more points than you different different goals for different people

because some people want to have the best body. Some people want to have the most money. Some people want to see the most people. Listen, you can play Skyrim and level yourself up to level 99 and still not beat the game. But it's like the Sims. Have you ever played the Sims? Different Sims have different aspirations. Sure, sure.

But let's say you right now are at Donald Trump's legacy. That's the video game. It's called President Trump. That's the video game, it's called President Trump. That's the video game. And you're right now at a competition to beat the game the fastest, to win the award or whatever. And in order to beat the game, you've got to do a bunch of things. And instead, you're sitting around talking about, what, space and Neuralinks and whatever.

And they're saying the point of the game, you win when you break, you know, 10 million points. And you're sitting, you're not even trying to get 10 million points. How do you get the points, though? It's money money 10 is that it's just the meaning of life is money just collect as much money as possible oh thank god that's not true currency got invented so horrible like before when was currency invented 40 000 no not that long ago someone invented currency it didn't used to exist yeah well i mean well but people have developed currency in isolation too though it was not as if, like, John Q. Currency invented it, and then we started using it after. I think, like, in some places, they used shells and other beads, or I think different kinds of flowers.

It was just something that the people perceived as scarce and valuable, and it became a common medium of exchange. You know what is the future currency? Electricity. They actually call it currency. Electrical current. It's currency. No, I don't think so. It's literal.

I think energy is the basis for the value of a lot of currency, though. I mean, so you think about why does a dollar have value, and then you try and determine what is a living wage and what does a person deserve. And the value of a dollar is tied to what you can get for it. Yeah. And it comes down to energy. So human labor is extremely expensive, extremely expensive. So we've started replacing human labor over and over again throughout history, right? Very early on in human existence, human labor was everything. A human would build,

a human would pull, a human would drag stuff. And then we were like, yo, that big thing with hooves is bigger than me. Let's tie stuff to it, make it carry it. And then it would. And then we started using animal energy. Then we started learning about, you know, burning carbon for energy. We've continually improved the different sources of energy and how to manipulate the energy. And so I guess based on like the petrodollar and stuff and the way war works and oil, the basis of our currency is very much so energy return. So it's mostly oil, right? Why does someone want any money? Because the oil you can get for it, you can use to build and you don't need humans.

Like the amount of energy compared to like what a human can produce versus what a machine can do, lifting. Like we see the – I love ancient aliens and they talk about like how do humans possibly live these giant stones? And they could. I watched this really cool one where this dude, he like took, it was a gigantic like multi-ton stone and he hammered a wooden wedge under it and then started rocking it back and forth. And then he dug a hole and then it flipped over. And he was like, that's how you do it.

You use its own weight and you apply very little energy to wobble it. If you had a crane, you can just move it. Just like that. So if you have the oil, you don't need need the people so the energy coming is way more valuable so we've been replacing human labor with machine labor and that's the problem that's the industrial revolution had riots and there's going to be you know like like a free energy riot maybe i mean the conspiracy theory is that free energy we've or form of it, at least in our system, it would be equivalent to free as far as we're concerned, is being withheld because it would lead to widespread riots and discord and collapse. And we don't want that to happen. I don't think I believe that.

Yeah. Because that's just like out there. But, I mean, the idea makes sense. So people believe it, whether or not they have evidence. But Andrew Yang talks about how automation is going to be the next industrial revolution. People are going to lose their jobs because we're going to replace them with more efficient systems. And we don't need the energy they can produce because it's dramatically less than the computer. The computer takes a little bit of energy, and it can do 10 times.

You just tap the thing, boop, boop, boop, and I got my cheeseburger with extra ketchup or whatever. Talking to the person, man, that's a lot of that's all what else andrew yang suggested is that we get every cop a black a blue belt no there's a purple belt in jujitsu and a police officer should study jujitsu yeah but then they're gonna they can't even do chokeholds yeah i think my thing not yet i think my thing with there being a second industrial revolution because of our technologies that i mean in the long run, there were problems and there were some pretty short-term hiccups and serious ones. I don't mean to delegitimize those or say there weren't actual problems.

But in the long run, we have benefited immensely from the industrial revolution. And so a second technological revolution would probably be very good for us, at least materially speaking. And they're afraid of the short-term chaos. Yeah, they're afraid of the short-term chaos and probably wondering how we could mitigate that, which I think is probably a fair concern if we really get to that point i don't know if i bind the idea that we are going to get into the point where human labor is so unnecessary that we will have these rights but maybe i don't know that's why humans need skills

yes something you can do beyond what the machines can do and so that's why i think a lot of people are like college is the answer college is the key. College is the key. But college doesn't work that way. It doesn't give people these skills. It actually hurts them. It gives administrators jobs. That's what it does. And improving your own body is pretty fun because no computer can do that for you. That's true. Working out.

I think it's funny how I hear from so many of these commies. They're like, don't you want to live like how Star Trek was? And I'm like, but that's not what you're doing. Yeah, exactly. I love that. Like just referencing science fiction and being like, wouldn't that be great?

Look at this fantasy of something that's never happened that somebody imagined to be great. Wouldn't that be great? I, yes. I got into an argument with a DSA person who was saying like,

don't you want to live like Star Trek? And I said, sure. Once we have replicators and we're post scarcity, we can have a conversation about how our government works. And they said, dude, scarcity doesn't exist. Wow.

And I was like, what? Like, have we cured every cancer? Okay. Then clearly the treatments that exist are scarce. In fact, some of them don't even exist. And they didn't get it. Like, no, man, you're just propaganda. And I'm like, do you think?

Actually, I kid you not. I said, do you think the hospital is a cure for all diseases? Yes. It's conspiracy theory stuff. They think it's a – you ever see the movie Elysium? I'm familiar with the concept. It's like the giant ring floating in space where all the rich people live and they all speak French and all the poor people speak Spanish. And the movie is predicated upon this idea that rich people have these machines that you go and it cures you of all ailment.

And they just won't give it to the poor people for no reason because they're big jerks and exactly and then they they like a bunch of ships like crash into elysium and then they're like now we're gonna reset the system and then everyone can have stuff and then they send all the the pods down and then everyone gets cured yay because well how many pods were there and how many people were there they never really answered that question that they should do an after credit scene where it's like everything's destroyed and everyone's suffering now. And now there's just nothing. There's no rich people. There's no cure for anything.

No one can get cured. Congratulations. You burnt it to the ground. Because? Oh, what were you going to say? No, you were going to say. Mine was much less interesting than whatever you were going to say. Okay.

Well, don't put that much faith in me, but I appreciate it. Yeah. Even if we did reach a point where society was like Star Trek and you could fabricate any material thing in some kind of replicator, there would still be a scarcity of time. You would still only have so much on the planet. So scarcity will literally never disappear. Scarcity will always exist. Always exist.

There's only so much time you're on this planet for. And it's not just that. Unless we have God-tier powers where we can manipulate reality, we are not going to get to a point where we've solved every problem. Problems will always exist. Think about it this way. Let's say humans are immortal, completely immortal.

All right. Now we're immortal beings. We can fly. We can shoot laser beams out of our eyes. We have all these powers. And then one day Ian is like, yo, I'm going to go to Alpha Centauri. I'll be back for lunch.

And he bursts off into flyaway and then meteor hits him. Smack. Ian explodes into a million pieces. We're like, no. You guys might be doing that. doing that then the news hold on then the news cycle comes out and they're like the problems of meteors crashing into our says needs to stop and then they need to solve the problem and then they create force fields and then the force fields you know there's always going to be something until we can literally just like think and then do whatever we want it's never

going to happen there's always going to be problems. We need problems. It's not that we need them. It's that we're never even going to get to a point where we're teleporting and like flying around and shooting laser beams. It's always going to be like, okay, we're immortal now, but Ian got hit by a bus. We couldn't save him. Immortal but not indestructible. Yeah, exactly. That's one of the fears of living forever.

Biological immortality. That's how much more of a tragedy it would be if someone got killed by an accident if we were supposed to live till 10 000 and it would be inevitable that everyone would just get killed by an accident at some point and that'd be devastating um no it is interesting let's uh let's jump to super chats we have a bunch of people who have questions and uh again to everybody who's watching i know a lot of people have dipped out just because the internet's been cutting in and out and uh just i'll tell you exactly what happened we ran 300 feet of cable and the computer is giving us an ethernet ip error and i've gone through everything and it just doesn't work so we're actually using like a mesh

network which is causing us problems now welcome to living in the middle of nowhere but i would like to send a special message to verizon it has now been about three months where you haven't laid the cables down yet and you told us it would be about a week. So I'm hoping you hear this. And Verizon, please help us get the internet you promised us installed, because I would like to be a customer of your business. And I guess I can't. But that being said, thanks for everybody hanging out. And we're going to have the full podcast up on iTunes. And we'll put up clips throughout the day tomorrow. So everything's going to be high quality HD because we record this in house as well. And smash the like button if you think we deserve it.

Otherwise, blame the Internet. But let's read some of the some of the comments. Someone said spin the UFO. There's no there's no UFO here. We have to go get it. You know the UFO, right? No. We have the UFO, the levitating thing.

Oh, it's not. We're not. We're not there. We're in the middle of nowhere right now in an undisclosed location in the mountains and that's why the internet doesn't work oh we got a question for you shamus oh spork which has a spork which says shamus why did you self forever sleep yourself what hashtag epstein didn't kill himself oh no oh is that a reference to one of your episodes forever sleep i think he's's saying that I may or may not have I may or may not be slated to have some kind of accident at some point in the future due to my outspoken political beliefs. That's that's true.

All right. Let's see. Let's we'll jump down a little bit. Okay. We have a bunch of funny questions, but sure. Imago Mortis says, you all remember that Intercept article about a Pentagon video detailing the inevitable dystopian future of major cities? Definitely worth a read. Oh, wow.

Interesting. I'd like to check that out. Charles Adams says, have you seen this? Governor Ron DeSantis announces the Combating Violence Disorder and Looting and Law Enforcement Protection Act. I think I saw this. Wasn't that the thing where he said you block a road and it's like jail time? What? Yeah.

I mean, honestly, no, no. That's good. I mean, yes, people should not be standing in the middle of the street. Yeah, but you're right, especially if they cause an accident and stuff like that. But I think we have nonviolent civil disobedience where these activists would sit in the middle of the road. They'd immediately be arrested. It would be cleared out in 20 minutes. They'd cause a minor nuisance, get some press coverage. we i feel like that line is tolerable because we don't

want the alternative if you make peaceful revolution impossible you make violent revolution inevitable so we have to tolerate a certain level of disobedience without putting people in prison sure oh definitely but i guess the question is whether or not that's tolerable you're right that if it's 20 minutes it might not be a big as big a deal but if you're blocking off an entire road now like ambulances can't get by for example the cops come in and arrest you yeah yeah it's already illegal to do yeah okay that's good yeah yeah so typically what happens is you get a you know supervision charge you get locked up for a day or two while you wait arraignment and you blocked a road it's like okay well we don't like you did it but we get it you made your point congratulations the alternative would be you give them prison time.

Then people are going to start getting violent. They're going to go black block Antifa. They're going to put masks on and run through the streets full speed. They're going to escalate their tactics. Yeah, I think it just needs to be understood by the people who want to block the street that you are going to make people and their automobiles feel extremely unsafe. And you have to be prepared for one of them to lose their cool. Yeah.

Mads says, and this was a while ago ago he says turn up the volume fam so uh hopefully the volume has been so yeah this is an old super chat but uh we are i'll i'll i'll just put it bluntly we built the new studio there's like i work all day every day so it's quite literally sink or swim you know fly or fall yeah we just jumped right out of the nest and saw if we can do it and we had a bunch of problems yesterday with like the audio was not working and now today we're having all these internet troubles and it's like you know what man uh there would be no opportunity for me to set this up unless i just came and did it i get it and now and now we've worked this with this really awesome audio guy come in um this guy chad

and he like set up this mixer and it's all really great and everything sounds a lot better. We do need to turn the volume up a little bit. I hear that. And we can easily just boost that. But now we got to figure out why the internet's giving us the business. So I need a network engineer.

Seriously, someone who can just be like, oh, fix it and click a button and then boom, internet's working. So it could just be simply the internet's really bad, right? So we get about 20 megabits up and I don't know if that's enough. Are you on Wi-Fi now? Yeah.

Yeah. And so I think the mesh network is just deteriorating. So we'll need to figure something out. But we'll just read more Super Chats, you know, while we're here. Mark G. says, this cast isn't what I expected. No monocles and mustaches or two people made of straw. Oh, no. Yes, the straw men as well as the debunkers,

they may turn up for a visit at some point. I do think it's funny that we haven't gotten you to do more impersonations. I know. You guys are just abusing me. Give me some. You wasted. Okay, folks, honestly, if you think I just came here to do impressions instead of discuss aliens and UFOs and being in a simulation and all these other things we're having an conversation about, you're absolutely out of your mind. Okay, that stuff's way more interesting

than talking about the consumer spending crisis that we've seen in healthcare're having an conversation about, you're absolutely out of your mind, okay? That stuff's way more interesting than talking about, like, the consumer spending crisis that we've seen in healthcare over the past 40 years, which is a result of Medicare and Medicaid, which is the government policy, so universal healthcare is not the option that we should be going for as a country, okay, gang? Holy cow. And you can just go that fast and say all of that. Yes, gang. Very good.

I was basically Ben Shapiro at one point in my life. I just aspired to be him, and I just got very good at the skill set required to be Ben Shapiro, but unfortunately, he beat me too and got the job first. So why don't you just do that and make, like, make legitimate political arguments

as Benjamin Hero? Because it wouldn't be honest to myself. But I think it's funny that like most people, if they do, like the people who are familiar with your content

know you for a more comedic context and here you are having this like legitimate political discussion. Very calm and reasonable and it's like, you know know i wouldn't call anything i say reasonable but i appreciate it yes yes pat lynch says joe biden isn't a boomer he's ironically part

of the silent generation is he he's not a boomer he no he is silent generation he is silent generation i think that maybe actually i could be wrong he just said that and so i agreed with it but so he was born in like 40 41 i don't know that is that is that oh wait that's silent generation is it yeah it is really yeah i can look at oh that's after the greatest generation after world war ii so 46 on it was greatest then silent then boomers or what i believe so yeah the greatest generation would be the ones who fought world war ii correct and then the boomers were the kids of the greatest and then who are the kids of silent gen xers maybe yeah yeah yeah and then but gen xers seem to be all right it's the millennials because they didn't

have the internet when they were i don't know where i am i don't know if i'm millennial or gen z what year were you born 95 you're a millennial millennial okay yeah yeah i think gen z is after 2000 or like really yeah something something like that. Maybe. Let's see. Adam Strangelove says, Tim, they might actually do the debate because recently Spotify has come after Joe Rogan and made it so Spotify has the right to edit his streams. Oh.

Well, I don't know if that's true, but we were talking a lot about this because a lot of people are worried about what's going to happen with Joe's podcast because some episodes have fallen off and then someone told me that he said it was because of a corruption in the files or something like that i don't know if that's true i don't know i don't really care that much i don't look the dude can do whatever he wants people are going to get mad about it i think more people

are mad about joe because they're worried they're going to lose a weapon in the culture war yeah they're like but joe is this guy who's fighting for us if he goes out they're gonna you know and so they don't actually care about what he wants to do and what his show is all about and it's like i'm gonna do my thing uh you know i'm in my own business yeah people are correcting me a lot on the brad taylor thing that they did actually knock before oh okay and the guy fired through the door oh i had no yeah that changes see that changes everything and this is why i said earlier no matter what the circumstances were they would have treated it the exact same way. And that's why I because probably only three or four years after that, Joe Rogan started to be accused of being this like alt-right, sympathetic, adjacent, fascist sympathizer

because he has conversations with people who they don't like. And so it was just funny to me how much, how the culture changed so quickly to the point where like at the beginning of my college experience, liberal professors were recommending him. By the very end, they were condemning him. I think he was super liberal in the early days and then got a little more moderate. I don't know if, yeah, I guess I couldn't speak to that because I didn't consume too much of his content early on.

But I think the left, it could just be that the left has gone further to the left and so he appears more moderate. I mean, yeah, they definitely have. The question is, is that why he appears more moderate? Maybe he's become more moderate because there's this sort of vicious cycle where the more crazy the left gets um the more likely standard left wingers from about 10 years ago are to actually move to the right so i have a i have a fact check here from mumbling bearded freak this is his name tim i don't think i've seen you get the facts of a story more wrong than the branna taylor case brandon tatum has released court documents from the case that you need to read. They knocked.

She was named on the warrant. She was dealing. So I'll look into it for sure. But I'm more than happy to read the super chats if that's what they're saying. I just tell everybody else, regardless of what I say or what anyone says, you should do the fact checks yourself to make sure. Because I definitely think I'm missing a lot of details. That really changes it. If she was accused of drug dealing and then they knocked and the guy shot the

cops through the door i mean yeah i mean it's clearly it's still a tragic story when anyone dies but that's very different from the police just bursting into the house and causing chaos right so uh cliff says ethernet error from cable may be cable type use coax for distance greater than 100 feet if coax already error due to foam layer still on the central copper core um we could have the wrong ethernet cable i suppose perhaps save that super chat yeah yeah well that could be the error i suppose i guess we'll have to figure out what the uh what the issue is and um we'll get taken care of tomorrow we have all day to do it and we will and oh man i don't want to announce the guests

anymore because we've had some cancellations but tomorrow's guest is so awesome it's going to be so cool way better than me guns blows me out of the water it's gone oh i actually know who this is yes he is better than me you should watch i didn't say better than you i just no i'm kidding i was just saying that i'm just self-deprecating sam g says freedom tunes rules thank you just what you need it just that's what i needed after trashed, after Tim looked me in the eye and said he hated me. Yep, yep. So he says, ma'am, are you using your illegal run powers to take this woman's birth control pills from her ovaries? That's right.

Your illegal nun powers, which is exactly what the Catholic Church is trying to do. And if Trump appoints this horrible theocrat to the Supreme Court, they're going to steal birth control forever. It's going to be like the Grinch coming down your chimney and going to your bathroom and just taking birth control out and then sneaking out of your house oh my gosh and pharmacies yeah all right we got a question for you shamus sure let's say you cut off all of your limbs and are reduced to a talking head in a jar in the pot is the pile of your limbs which made up made up 90 of your body you or is your head you so i'm just a head in a jar i guess that's all that i am i mean at that point that that has been discarded but i would still say that i have like ownership

over those limbs that's so hypothetical at that point i think what he's getting at could also be asked like if an arm is cut off is the is the arm that was cut off you uh i believe yes not in the same way it's not attached to you anymore but like that is still objectively your arm it's been separated from your body but i think it's still part of you right because when you like when you're getting hit in the arm you don't say like oh you're hitting my arm you're like oh you're hitting me like that's an aggression upon you as a whole so then like throughout the day when your skin is like dry and flaking off you're like basically spreading your your body all over things you're all over the place well no yeah obviously obviously you get to a point where there's some part of you so small

that we probably wouldn't consider it you but it is a small part of you it's a question of like what do you identify with and you were talking about teleporters earlier like potentially getting there and that that almost kind of gets into like the tell the um the what's it called thought experiment of like the teleporter if you're deconstructed in one place and built again another place uh is that still you or is that just a copy of you so i don't like yeah it gets really complicated especially when you get hypothetical like a head in a jar or a teleporter experiment uh experiment like that but i just generally consider you and your body and your soul are you i think that the your brain's like a radio and that certain frequency can activate it so like if you reconstruct the exact same brain elsewhere,

the same frequency can still hit it, regardless of where the frequency is coming from. Isn't it canon in Star Trek that when you teleport, you die and then a copy of you is made? I don't know if that's canon, but it's definitely terrifying. There's an episode where Commander Riker

was trying to beam off a planet that had some kind of atmospheric interference and it caused his signal to split into two. One bounced back, and one went to the ship. So the ship leaves thinking they got him, but left a copy of him on the ground. Oh, what? Yeah, and so this was a whole arc where they had Commander Riker and Lieutenant Riker, and he, like, went by his middle name or whatever.

Wow. So they made it canon then at that point that it's not you. You're just dying, and they're reconstructing you. That's crazy. That's terrifying. Because if you teleported, I wouldn't know the difference. Yeah, exactly. But you're dead.

That's creepy stuff. But then also, too, this is from a completely materialistic perspective. Like if you have a soul, does the soul move to the other body? Or is this just not something that could occur at all? Would the replicated version just not be animated because there was no soul there in the original you was already dead or can you never teleported anybody so we have no clue is there like a soulless version of you now no i think you just die i think a soul needs to animate you you're just dead oh so you think like like this second copy would just be dead just drop

dead yeah yeah that'd be crazy like is that i think the soul's coming from the galactic core and it's beaming to us and like causing giving us information causing your brain to function in certain ways you know normally like i i think hearing something like that where it just sounds like i don't know where you're getting that from it sounds nuts but i mean it's just like people have religious beliefs that's my religion right right right if you are like i feel and i believe something and it's true i'll be like like, well, I certainly don't. But if it's coming from the galactic core, that means it's coming from a universal core that's hitting the galactic core and then refracting to the sun, which is then refracting to the earth, then refracting to you or something like that. I think it's a simulation.

You know, I saw this really funny post where they said simulism, which is the belief that you're in a simulation is just god for nerds like yeah exactly it's like people people are so averse to a belief in god but then if you say like we're in a simulation whoa man like that's so yeah right right so quite literally you're saying someone programmed and designed everything and created as it is and it took them a certain amount of time and we're in their system by their design and they work in misty you don't know what their what their end goals are but you're you know it know, it's just a more complicated version of the same thing. What if that is really crazy? Like, we, like, the simulation, simulism almost creates a, like, it almost just leads back into religion. Particularly, like, Abrahamic religion.

It's just a different religion, yeah. But it's, but I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's not the same as Buddhism. Like, simulism has the idea that there was someone who created oh yeah there's a creator yeah creator and and it's design you know what i mean no you could say then i mean it probably wouldn't be a coincidence that it developed in the west it's sort of like a perversion or distortion right it's a good point but yeah yeah but but you could also say, too, I mean, I don't think the idea of a creator was unique just to the West, too. I think, like, obviously Buddhists don't necessarily believe in a creator, but other religions did. Let's read this here. Super chat from Court J.

What do you think about outfitting the cops with the tech to just record the traffic violations while patrolling and then sending citations to the owner of the vehicle reducing interactions i personally disagree yeah i think too many people would fight that they would try to fight that it's like oh there's some angle you didn't capture i wasn't actually guilty of this i don't know not even that you need to stop people who are causing like if someone's drunk also true or i mean i guess it's a felony so it's not the same as a citation but if someone's speeding and you're like nah you'll get look you're gonna take it in the mail well they're gonna keep speeding they can hit somebody you know So we definitely got to have cops stop people committing crimes. Pablo Martinez has more freedom tunes with Tim pool guest stars. Yeah.

Wonderful. Yeah. We could at some point. Yeah. All right. Let's see what we got here. Big Mac attack says we're going to turn into, into the super vampires from Jojo's bizarre adventure.

If we don't kill ourselves in our great, in our greed to get there. I don't know what that is. I never watched JoJo. I remember the last time I was watching a stream, last time I was at your place, you guys got into Naruto or Naruto. Naruto.

Yeah, and everyone's telling you all the things Naruto taught them. And I was really tempted to like super chat in that Naruto taught me to run, but I was like, no, I don't want to go there. It's a subject for a lot of kids in gym class who ran like that, and we all knew some of them. Did you? Wait, what, really? Oh, there were i feel like almost everyone i know has had the experience of seeing at least one kid in gym class do the naruto run but maybe that's so inefficient yeah i know but i guess like the idea is like they're running so for those aren't

familiar their arms are like just flopping behind them as they run as if to simulate just like they're running so fast their arms are just flailing behind them like just it's ridiculous dude i think the show's great but that really is dumb they run like that i don't know do they all run like that or just him they all run like that wow yeah well yep they all do and they just like jump through the trees and they like just jump from tree to tree jumping like 100 feet at a time and you know it's a town ninja's role man how beautiful also they can create fire and other magic from their hands by making hand signs and it's a show maybe that's why they run like that they don't want to accidentally discharge their hand magic in front of them as they're running you never know it's safer you know it's really funny about the show now that we're going to get into like anime fandom oh no

when you start i done when you start well this is this is actually funny but it's interesting when you start watching a show like naruto in the early series it's about like ninjas and the ninjas have like ninja abilities like they can like someone will throw like a ninja star and they'll hit him but then poof it turns out it was a log the whole time and like whoa it was actually a log you tricked me and the guy's behind him with a knife and then later on the show gets crazier and crazier and it turns out the show is actually about an alien invasion not i'm not even exaggerating like you watch this whole show and you think it's about ninja warring countries and then at the end it turns out it's an alien invasion and they're all wielding alien space magic no joke 100 true is that like a jump

the shark thing or a thing they planned i think it was a jump the shark thing yeah because like the original concept of the show is that people had like the inner energy and they could convert the energy into like elements and at the end it was like aliens came you know like they're being they're fighting. Your powers originated with the aliens who brought them and traveled between dimensions. And this is like, I don't even know what I'm watching anymore.

I liked it when the dude was hiding in a tree and was like, I will kill you with my knife. And now it's like the space ladies transporting to alternate realities. And this dude can teleport. I don't know what you're doing, man. Whoa. Sounds like psychedelics.

Sounds like, I mean, you might enjoy the show. I don't know what you're doing, man. Whoa. Sounds like psychedelics. Sounds like, I mean, you might enjoy the show, you know. All right, let's see. Eric A. says, oh, I can't see what that says. Just tried someone's super chat suggestion to ask Siri where the blank are. You need to try it. Is that terrorists? I don't know. I don't know what it says.

Certain words, you can't read them dan fitzpatrick says they found a dead body in brenda taylor's rental car what yeah it was a knock warrant bf admits and the sergeant was shot how is it he got she got shot in the bf didn't whoa this is not what people were saying that's crazy yeah we gotta look we all just need to look more deeply into this wow oh this one's good jordan Truso says, have you read Harrison Bergeron, the short story? Oh, yeah. Have you read it? No.

It's basically a very short story about how people who are smart have to wear things in their ears that make random noises to disrupt their thinking so that everyone's equal. Oh, my God. People who are tall have to like... Oh, I think I did read this actually in school. People who are strong have to wear weights so they're as weak as everyone else and this is like people in the neural net and the one guy rips the neural net out and he's like no longer and they're like he's off the net he's off the net and he like well it ends with what a selfish guy it ends with this

like seven foot tall super ripped chiseled dude like ripping off his chains and then he like grabs this woman and rips her mask off and she turns up to be beautiful. And everyone's like, Oh no, what's happening? I remember. I actually do remember reading that. Yeah. Here we go.

Blue is Tashi says the Star Trek transporters are supposed to beam your matter from point to point, not copy you with local matter. It's supposed to reconstruct you with the exact same matter you started off with. Interesting. There's all, there's like weird stuff about the star trek canon anyway so that

doesn't really fit exactly grant pickett says rick and morty is awesome thank you i think i think rick and morty is awesome because i have nothing to do with the show so i appreciate the super chat let's see hey off topic gc seth mcfarland might be doing the new cosmos he did he didn't he rebooted it a while ago they're relaunching it That's exciting. I want him to get the rights to Star Trek. Yeah. Yeah, he wants it too. Yeah. Bourbon Bear said, Bourbon Bear, I live in a not too great part of Louisville, but far away from downtown, and they boarded up the local police station. My city is tense.

We're primed for violence, and I am afraid. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be crazy. All right, let's see. CD Saint says, you laid 300 feet of cable. If that was continuous, it may be your problem. Limitd saint says you laid 300 feet of cable if that was continuous it may be your problem limit of cat 5 is about 300 feet yeah i was looking into it we tried our best but the problem is i was using a power line adapter for those that are familiar and it said i was

getting really good signal but it wasn't working that's why i thought it was the computer but maybe maybe we need just to try again i don't know yeah just we'll try again tomorrow and uh we'll troubleshoot. The bigger challenge is there's only so many hours in the day, and I work most of them. So we're working through it. Gokama Bendari gave a super chat and then retracted it, but hey, thanks for the money. Let's see. What is this?

Let's jump down. We got a super chat here. Oh, that's the same one I read. What is it? The T word answer is subversive. Seriously, try the Siri thing. Yes, on the T word. Her answer is so subversive.

We don't have Siri. We don't have it. Yeah, you're right. None of us do. I don't think. Do you have an iPhone? I do. Okay, well, I guess we'll try it later.

Should I ask? Is this going to be put on some kind of list? No, maybe. All right, let's see. Josh Froman says, go ahead and defund the police, but repeal the NFA and Brady Bill so people can defend themselves with whatever they want. Thoughts? I think mandatory guns for all. The cops show up and say, how many people live here?

And you say, three. Here's a Glock 9 for you. Oh, my goodness. I think we should demilitarize the police, maybe, but not defund them. Maybe reuse those funds to add social workers to the crew i'll tell you what with with a militarized police force and a population armed to the teeth no one's invading this country ever yeah exactly never gonna be from orbit we've talked about that before i'm yeah i what i mean is there's not gonna be a land invasion no matter what you can't you can't even drop people in no no there's like everybody's nuts

like in terms of i don't mean nuts isn't crazy i mean like ready to defend themselves like armed the teeth you know all right let's see i uh isaac says watch brave new world a show about the flaws of a perfect 100 ideal communist society where no one owns anything tony Young says, Seamus and Tim is the crossover of the year. Oh, yeah. That's right. Seth says, Buddhists believe in gods. We just don't worship them. Maybe one of them created the world. Buddhists just don't care. Knowing who created our world doesn't help us

end suffering now. Interesting. Very interesting. Yeah, I would disagree, but different schools of... So, Jong the Great says, teleporters copy your matter, then send it. If the matter isn't confirmed confirmed sent it's returned to the teleporter that's what happened talking about star trek again grant pickens says as an electrician you may try a signal booster near the source guns are good guns are good agreed yes for that addition so uh i think most people know your channel but you want to mention your channel and your social media and stuff yeah i would love to to just plug freedom tunes for you guys go guys go check it out

youtube.com freedom tunes and i'm also on twitter that should be at seamus coglin and you're probably not gonna spell it yeah i know s-e-a-m-u-s underscore coglin c-o-u-g-h-l-i-n just follow me there mostly just subscribe to the youtube channel. You got to say Seamus underscore Coughlin. I know. Seamus underscore Coughlin. I know. Maybe I should just spell it phonetically in the tag so that people will actually be able to find me. But yeah, we usually upload a new video every single week on Thursdays. This week, that got a little messed up because I was traveling. But yeah, check the channel out. We throw up these fun little cartoons that people seem to be enjoying, and maybe you could enjoy them too.

And you put out a parody song today of Trump and biden singing to each that's right that's right and of course you can follow me on twitter instagram parlor at timcast and you can check out my other channels uh youtube.com slash timcast youtube.com slash timcast news this is timcast irl we will fix the internet by tomorrow i promise we'll figure it out and uh you know my one piece of advice to everybody uh first i'll just apologize for all the hiccups you've been been having on the show because I know, you know, if you come here to watch a show and then it breaks, it's like, what are we doing? But you just got to start. You just got to start. If we sat back and didn't know what to do, we'd have no show for like a week or two.

It's only because people have been giving us advice. People have been telling us what's not working, that it's working. So I really do appreciate the fact that all of you stick around and watch because it's basically part of the process. And without you, we wouldn't even know what the issues were. But also, Ian, you want to mention your social? You can follow me at Ian Crossland pretty much everywhere. Everywhere there's social media, Instagram, Twitter, Mines, and Twitch because I just started streaming games, although I haven't in the last few days.

Yeah, it's pretty fun streaming with Adam Krigler. And you may have noticed briefly in the show, Lydia was using a shotgun mic to speak because we had another mic here. So we're getting it. We're getting it. We're getting it. But you can follow Lydia at Sour Patch Lids. Sour Patch L-Y-D-S on Twitter and Parler.

I am here. I really am. I have been here the whole time. I'm switching the camera very erroneously since I have three people to switch for now. It's a lot of fun though. I've been quieter than usual and that's why, because I'm busy. the whole time. I'm switching the camera very erroneously since I have three people to switch for now. It's a lot of fun, though. I've been quieter than usual, and that's why, because I'm busy. Sorry, guys. She was off screen making really angry faces every time I spoke.

I was. It's true. My mind was melting. You can't see, but when the camera switches to Ian, I actually have to get up to hold her back from swinging at Seamus, and I'm just like, no. It's why they didn't let me on the podcast last time. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because you started throwing bottles at people and you were screaming. I get angry. Well, you know, you thought we wouldn't know it was you when you put

the mask on and started screaming the whole damn system is guilty as hell and marching to the neighborhood. But we could tell. I don't accept that there's any evidence that that was me. And this is a baseless accusation. Well then, we'll have to have you come back i suppose i would love to the functioning internet yeah

that'd be great yeah so uh hey everybody really thanks for hanging out we're gonna be back tomorrow at 8 p.m and we're gonna be talking about guns guns guns with somebody who's all about guns guns guns i'm hoping but uh you know sometimes these things happen and i'll tell you what's gonna happen tomorrow something else is gonna like the lights are and I'll tell you what's going to happen tomorrow something else the lights are going to shut off because the internet was like working okay yesterday and now it's bad today we'll do it by candlelight yes

the show must go on we'll get it done but we're going to head out for now I will be back of course with all my normal segments in the morning starting at 10am you can check it out

youtube.com slash timcast news and then at 4pm youtube.com slash timcast I have way too many channels and again Seamus thanks for hanging out. Yeah, thank you. God bless you.

Appreciate it. Ian and Lydia. It's been fun. And we'll be back tomorrow night with better internet. Adios, everybody. Thank you.