Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #142 - Debate Commission Changes Rules After Trump Dominates Debate, Jack Murphy Guests

Episode Date: October 1, 2020

Tim, Ian, Lydia, and recurring guest, author of 'Democrat to Deplorable' Jack Murphy (@JackMurphyLive on Twitter, websites jackmurphylive.com, and liminal-order.com) sit down to discuss the first presidential debate and break down what will happen now that Biden has failed so badly. Conversation naturally turns to the Proud Boys, the Nobel Peace prize, Telemundo ratings of the debate, the switch from left to right, China's war on the US, and the war on masculinity.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I would like you all to imagine for just one second, Joe Biden, he sits down with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping, and they're negotiating very important military logistics. There's a rising tension and dispute. Vladimir Putin gets angry and he starts yelling at Joe Biden. And Joe Biden goes, hold on, hold on. Come on, man. Can we get the moderator to change the rules here? This is not fair. Vladimir Putin won't stop. Will you shut up, man? And then the moderators walk in and say, Vladimir, we're changing the rules because you're talking over Joe Biden. And then, you know, Xi Jinping is outraged. He's like, I demand a rule change, too. And then they're like, they're going to change the rules. And now Joe Biden's shaking hands with the moderator of

international disputes. That's never going to happen. It's never, never going to happen. Yet still, because people think that the debate with Donald Trump and Joe Biden was a S show, as Dana Bash called it, the commission on the debates is actually changing the rules. And as far as I'm concerned, if Joe Biden can't handle himself with Donald Trump, then he shouldn't be president because he's going to deal with way nastier people. But that's what Joe Biden wants. And if the American people think that we should have a president who needs rules to protect him from bullies, well, that's the American people are going to get.

So we're going to be talking a lot about the debate tonight. Thanks for joining the TimCast IRL podcast. We're hanging out with Ian, of course. Hello. That's Ian. And Jack Murphy is guesting tonight. He's hanging out. Good to be here, Tim.

Now, I think it's rad that you're here, actually, because you wrote the book Democrats are Deplorable. Democrats are Deplorable. Why nine million Obama voters ditched the Democrats and embraced Donald Trump in 2016. And you're still going to vote for Trump after that debate performance? Well, you know, it was a mixed bag. But yes, of course, man. Yeah, there's a lot we can talk about. I think Trump's going to get some criticism.

But I think the media is playing stupid, dirty games once again. And, of course, you know, we're hanging out with Lydia. She's here. She has a microphone now. I do. Look at this nonsense. Ooh, I can make noise. Yes.

Now she can make noise. We can hear it. Yes. So if you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe. We do the show Monday through Friday live at 8 p.m. And let's just – we'll lead with this first story because this is like – this is the craziest thing. I mean, check this out from the Daily Mail. They say debate commission promises rule change to make next showdown orderly after dumpster

fire clash, which Biden admits was a national embarrassment. But unrepentant Trump says it was fun. I think that's all you need to know right there. But there's a few more bullet points. They say the commission on presidential debates has vowed to change the format of the next candidate clash. Last night's debate made clear that additional structure should be added to ensure a more orderly discussion on the issues. The commission said the verdict came down after changes called for in called for in wake of Caddick night. Joe Biden called it a national embarrassment. The morning after the

debate, Trump called the event fun, claiming he actually was debating Biden and Fox News moderator and Fox News moderator Chris Wallace. Two on one was not surprising, but fun. Trump tweeted radical left is dumping sleepy Joe zero Democrat enthusiasm, weak leadership. A general consensus was reached. The debate was a dumpster fire. Most claim neither candidate came out on the other side looking good. I'll tell you this.

The point I was making, like when we opened the show, for those that may have missed the context there, Donald Trump's having a good time just talking over everyone and dominating everything. He's loving it. That's his environment. Joe Biden needs help. Like, how is he how is he going to negotiate anything for us? Or I don't know.

What? He's a terrible negotiator. He's got a low diplomacy skill. Is that, where does that come from? Biden? Yeah. I'm just listening to him. He's old.

He's dry. He's tired. Yeah, and he's just, you know, a lot of people were saying, I don't know if you guys saw that point where Biden said, would you shut up, man? You know that point? Yeah. A lot of people like cheering for that. But I'm like, that wasn't like, you know, Donald Trump when he's doing the WWE style thing and he's like, you know, hooting at the crowd and flexing. He's high energy when he's shutting people down. Excuse me. Excuse me. No, no. Joe Biden goes, would you shut up, man? That

was defeated. Yeah. One thing for sure that trump energy he overwhelmed the stage the television the broadcast america his energy was 10x everybody last night and that's been something that he's been pushing all along right high energy aggressive in your face creating drama making things interesting you know that's why that's why it's sleepy joe and trump is the man at this point yeah trump uh he's spry. He's dude. Has he not? Okay.

So you remember when Obama went and came into office? No grays looking young. Eight years later, he looks like an old man. He looks like some energy vampire latched onto him and drained him. He's like. Right. But has Trump degraded in any way physically over four years? In fact, it seems to me like he's gotten bigger. Picking up.

He's gotten bigger picking up he's gotten bigger and like his hair is growing larger oh yeah no i think i think trump's calmed down in a certain respect but he's actually like last night was probably the most riled up i've seen him like he was just going off yeah he was debating chris wallace and joe biden at the same time yeah and it was clearly a strategy right like didn't, he didn't ease into that. Like Trump didn't ease into his aggression. Did you notice he didn't open with the typical opening? Usually they ask you a question and then you say, thank you everybody for having me here.

Thanks to everybody at the university. Thanks to the ushers and my wife and blah, blah, blah. And then they take like 90 seconds saying thank you to everybody. And then they get into the question. just started off attacking just came out swinging didn't even say thank you joe biden tried he did he was like i just want to thank you it was funny when he walked down he looked at trump and he's like you know whatever like i'm joe biden whatever i don't know yeah joe biden it seems like he didn't know if he was going to play it wwe style like you know like smack talking in the ring or if he was going to play it wwe style like you know like smack talking in the ring

or if he was going to try and have a traditional establishment debate but then joe biden just jumped in into the muck with with trump and you know the the main issue i see is you can't win that fight definitely not and so what's the phrase like don't fight with the pigs it'll drag you into the mud or yeah you lie with dogs you get fleasas. So Donald Trump, that's like, you know, man, they don't know how to deal with this guy. Donald Trump comes out. He's in the WWE Hall of Fame, isn't he? He's been a big part of it. He's made guest appearances.

They love him. And they love him in the MMA world, too. So he knows about this showmanship. Yep. Well, I mean, for like wrestling entertainment, it really is about putting on that big spectacle and catching the attention of the crowd. I think we have all we have all the polls saying that Joe Biden won, you know, like nine, nine out of 10 or whatever polls, some ridiculous number. There's that one Telemundo poll saying Spanish speakers think Trump won 60, 66 to 33. That's crazy.

And there were a few other polls like C-SPAN did a non-scientific Twitter poll and people are like popping that up. I think Trump won. And I know it's probably, I'll tell you this. It's probably, I don't know if cliche is the right word. Oh, of course, Tim's going to say Trump won because, you know, they're going to be like the maggots will just say Trump won no matter what. It's like, dude, I got a lot to say about how Trump screwed up in a lot of ways. But that's why I opened with imagine Joe Biden trying to have a conversation with Vladimir Putin. No one's going to be there to hold him up. So we can complain that we didn't get any substance. I think that's partially true. I think Donald Trump did have a bunch of really important

issues he talked about when he went into mail in voting. Joe Biden just sat there for like two minutes, just not saying a word. And then he he goes there's no evidence for that it's like that's not a response joe that's not you can't just be like that's not true you're dumb you know i felt like i felt like trump had a command of the facts like he had in the past you know before he was just coming out like four years ago you know he wasn't president he didn't have programs he didn't have the experience but now it's like he knows everything that's going on. Yeah. And, and, and compared to Joe Biden, who even my, my son pointed out that Joe Biden would say, well, you know, it was 20 million. I mean, uh, 20,000, I mean, 20, every statistic that he tried to cite. So if Biden wanted to do a clinical debate about policy

issues, it seemed to me that Biden did not have the facts, the knowledge, or even maybe the preparation or the temperament or the energy or something. But when he tried to do that, it wasn't working for him at all. All right. So let me ask you something. So Jack's been on the show before. I'm sure you guys may have seen. I think now it's like your third time. And you wrote you literally wrote the book on it. Democrats are deplorable. Has anyone else done what you've done, like traveling around asking people about all this stuff? There was a woman that was doing some stuff like that back a few years ago, and her book came out and it just

came and went. And my book continues to sell more and more every month as people are waking up, the Democrats are waking up to what's going on. And they're embracing Donald Trump. And they've had four years to have to figure out like all those things that that drove people away into 2016 10 times worse today i had a conversation today that i think you like i'm surprised some of the people i know may be finally breaking off of the biden biden train but i bring i bring this up i want to ask you on a scale of one to ten in 2016 what level was your enthusiasm for donald trump like just before election uh enthusiasm like did i want him to win was i supporting him that was a 10 a 10 yeah i was all in i was all in trump did i think he was gonna win no and even in my book i said i reflected

about election night sitting down with my girlfriend red hen on twitter and just being like it's been a fun ride babe but i just don't i just don't think it's gonna happen going back to hillary yep and then when wisconsin came in and then i mean man then then we just went bonkers man that was such a fun night yeah it was like it was like christmas and new year's at the same time and like yeah all the holidays holidays rolled into one yeah and i i'm not saying that as someone who voted for trump i'm saying it as somebody who was watching just like all these establishment elitist pricks who are so smug and sure of themselves. It's like, dude, I didn't vote for Trump, man. I didn't vote for Hillary. I'm just sitting back, minding my own business, trying to have a slice of pizza and a beer. And you guys wouldn't stop gloating and snooting about, sniffing

your own farts. To watch them fall down from the ivory tower was just hilarious yeah comeuppance right indeed so now we'll see what happens and i gotta say i'm not uh i'm not con i'm not convinced at this point with the amount of smears and the chaos that's been dropping about trump that he's on track for a victory but but the reason i ask this question is if you were at a 10 out of 10 in in 2016 as of right now with everything that's happened where are you at for trump well i'm a 10 out of 10 times 10 at this point in terms of support yeah right like i see him as the only way out of this existential crisis that we're in critical race theory the woke walkers the whole thing woke walkers yeah that's a good one that usually gets a good reaction the woke walkers and so you know my support for him is is is as high as it could be at this point.

Now, I go back and forth on whether or not I think he's actually going to win. I feel like it's been building momentum. I really do. I don't think the debate helped sort of grow more enthusiasm or optimism on my part. But I have been feeling really good. And I don't really – I look at the polls. I disregard them. And it's just sort of a vibe. But you know, who knows at this point, I would say that I probably went down a little bit in terms of after the debate. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, even though he won, even though he won the it's not

it's not to a point where I'm like, Oh, geez, I better not vote or I better vote for Biden. Oh, I'm definitely gonna vote. I'm definitely gonna vote for Trump. But I was just like there were you would think that when he was asked again about disavowing white supremacy, and I understand he's done it a billion times, but that was his moment to calmly and rationally just be like, yes, next question. And then he could have pointed to Joe Biden and said, now will you disavow Antifa and the far left? And Joe wouldn't have done it. And that would have been a grand slam for Trump.

And he missed the cue. Yeah, the question he was given though, like I think tripped him up. Do you disavow white supremacy and militias? Exactly. Right, so like there's a lot of people in militias. There's a lot of people who aren't white supremacists who are in militias.

And there's a lot of people like that that support Trump. I can see in his brain maybe where he didn't want to just come out and say yes to that question. But he should have like he does all the time. Well, no, I answer whatever question he wants. And he had a moment there and he he did miss it. So I so the way I phrased it earlier was like I was probably at a six out of ten and I'm like a five point seven. Like it went down a little bit. So I'm just like like but biden can't win when he said the probably should stand back and stand by i think that was his ego that he didn't want to capitulate to the to the moderator

and just say stand down because they're like say stand down say stand down and he just wouldn't do it because his ego i think he misspoke yeah maybe no i really do i think he like this listen this is not a defense of Trump. If Trump just stopped for two seconds and, you know, so Chris Wallace is like, will you disavow white supremacists and the right wing? Sure. It's like he jumped in before Chris Wallace. If Trump just stopped for a second, like Chris Wallace, say the question, then Trump could have calmly replied. Instead, it was just people were yelling and it was cast and it's and it's it's partly because not actually i want

to stop and preface this because you pointed out biden's the one who broke the decorum first two minutes three minutes in biden violated the rules and so then it just goes off chris wallace should have said stop you do not interrupt you do that again you're losing your time and he said nothing and but so then trump was like, oh, rules are off. Yeah. Well, Trump was waiting for it, too. So but if Trump just slowed down and said, it's really, really simple. If you ask me, you know, will you disavow white supremacy and right wing militias?

I would say I disavow all white supremacist organizations. In fact, Donald Trump announced that the Klan are going to be designated domestic terrorists. Yeah. So he's like, we just announced we're designating people domestic terrorists. Is that not good enough? I think I think we've done pretty well there. Now, as for any right wing militia that is looking to start violence, don't do it. These people need to stop. By all means, you're free to speak your mind and you're free to be in your militia and you have all of your rights. But we need the violence to stop. Now, Trump did say, I want peace. I'm not trying to make it seem like I'm, you know, I'm trying to say like Trump is a failure or anything like that. Like, oh, how dare he?

I'm saying he missed a cue on that one. It was a great opportunity. Yeah. And you pointed this out earlier when we were talking where like Chris, Chris Walls asked that question of him four years ago. Yeah. What do you point to that? Yeah. And well, and you were like,

you know, he had the same chance. Then he disavowed a hundred percent, right? Then he disavowed, you know, the KKK disavowed, you know,

Duke disavowed everybody. Maybe he's just getting tired of it. I'm tired of it. We're all tired of it. That's a stupid question. And, and, and his first response was sure. And they're acting like he didn't say that he gave an affirmative,

but weak response. And the media, all of a sudden, every story like, Oh, no, Trump won't disavow. And then this morning they asked me, like, oh, yeah, they should stand down. Let law enforcement get in. Let's think about this. The media is going to say whatever they're going to say, no matter what Trump says. Right. So does it make sense for him to just sort of answer the question however he wants rather than, you know, sort of give in to the demand of the of the moderator?

That's a good point and and you know what a lot of people have been saying like chris wallace couldn't handle it we need joe rogan and joe rogan said no and he was like get the mma broadcaster guy and then he was like no way nobody wants to touch it because it was just like a hot pile of you know trash but uh i'd love to i'd love to moderate you know why because i just wouldn't do it right i'd be like 15 minutes on the clock the subject is covid have at it boys i'll be in the other room 15 minutes i'll come back in and i'll hit the buzzer again and we'll switch topics you know what's gonna be funny is when if they do try doing the the the mic cutting yeah they're gonna cut his mic they're gonna cut the mic but trump's gonna be so loud that like you're gonna hear him come

through on the other mic yeah it's gonna be amazing they that like you're gonna hear him come through on the other it's gonna be amazing they're gonna want to put them in glass cages what they're gonna need to do is put them in separate locations with somebody on a video mixer and just be able to cut the feed entirely right i i think this is insane that anyone would accept joe biden requiring a handicap to have a a debate on issues listen Listen, it's sales 101, man. If people don't know about your product, they can't buy it. If Donald Trump is the one who's saying words, we can look at all the debate polls where they're like,

well, actually, Joe Biden was the one who really came out with substance. Yeah, no, that's not how it works. I used to work for nonprofits. I used to do fundraising. And I'll tell you this. You know what got people to give me their money? It wasn't me saying, let me cite this statistic. Now in 2017, we actually cut down 4.3 tons of carbon. No, it was me triggering their emotions. That's it. And one of the most important things in sales is always having a response to soothe

their worries. So when someone says to me, I'm scared, this is one of the things they teach you when you're doing street canvassing for these nonprofits, you know, those people were like, how do you would you like to talk about the environment? No. Oh, but man, I mean, me and my buddies were like nation's best. We could snap our fingers and have somebody in front of us signing up, handing over their credit card. What? So here's what here's like big mistakes people make. If someone asks you a question, say, like, I'm nervous about voting for Donald Trump. Do not give them 800 reasons. You give them one simple one. This now when they say, yeah, but this then this and you

whenever they give you a response showing you they're scared, you give them an answer. If you can answer every question, they'll eventually cave and say, I'm not worried. I have nothing else to ask you. But so that's that's one of the important things I bring about Trump, specifically in reference to not that he was being asked a bunch of questions in succession by somebody who was questioning him. It was that he never shut up. And what that means is people don't necessarily know what he's saying, but they know he's saying something. And I know that might sound shallow, but I was talking to a friend of mine who said, I got hit up this morning. What's the Proud Boys, Tim? And I said, they're a Western chauvinist group. Are they racist? And I

was like, there's been some people in, but I think the organization as a whole, what they stand for is absolutely not like uh their their leader is a is a black cuban guy so i don't think that's you know of course the media will say it but anyway the point is for somebody to message me saying i don't know what that means right away i'm like that part of the debate was completely meaningless to most people yeah they're gonna be like i don't know what a proud boy is what is that it's like it's like it's an lg LGBT thing or something? No, for real.

Because that was one of the jokes the left was doing. Yeah. Like claiming that the Proud Boys, and they made a rainbow website or whatever. So I think- As if that's a bad thing. Right. Right. They thought the Proud Boys would be offended by it. I thought it was great.

I don't think you know anything about these guys. Yeah. So there was a video that was going around. Just made me think of old Gavin McGinnis. Yeah, I know. I can't believe some of the things that guy would do on camera. Right. So, look, you know, I was talking to a friend of mine earlier who was like posting and talking about how Donald Trump is calling for his right wing militias to come and get ready.

And I was like, listen, the Proud Boys are a lot of things. White supremacist is not one of them. You can criticize them for a lot, but they're not white supremacist. That's like, that's ridiculous. It does come from Gavin's inception. I think I see the Vic Berger, Rogan, Gavin McInnes clip that you did today. I think came out this morning. What is it?

And it was a Rogan said, you know, Gavin McInnes is mostly fun, fun guy. And then Vic Berger was like, oh, glad he said that. And then all these clips of Gavin being like, you find someone, choke him, grab him by the throat and choke him well he was saying a lot no it was just clip after clip after some of those some of those clips are gavin talking about dogs that's oh are you kidding yes specifically no you're not kidding one of the uh like so one of the clips you know what fact check me on this one for sure. But apparently, because I don't watch Gavin's show, when he was talking about choking a bee, he was literally talking about pulling a choke chain on a dog that was disobeying you. Okay. So, look, dude, there are a lot of people that will take everything out of context, manipulate, cut it, and they just run with it, it works it works so that's a good point sorry that's a good point though they take everything out of context they run a clip they they're going to say whatever

they want so one of the things that people voted one of the reasons people vote for trump is because they want him to be a fighter they want him to attack the establishment they want him to attack the media so what we witnessed was trump's manifestation of that energy right he was just doing it whether what he said was precise or had the right answer. The energy was there, right? He was fighting Biden. He was fighting the moderator and he was taking control, which is what every single Trump voter wanted when they pulled that, you know, in the election booth for Trump was for him to go in, take on these guys, the twin pillars of the Democrat. Well, actually the political establishment in general, and the media and attack them.

But the question I have is, there's a lot of people who didn't vote in 2016, who now are probably going to vote because they're being activated by all this, all the smear pieces on all the, you know, all the media being like, it's the end of the world, you have to go vote, you know, and all this stuff. Are they being activated by that? Are they being activated by waking up one day and finding out that their third graders are being taught to hate their whiteness and being forced into struggle sessions? I don't think they know that. I think, dude, maybe it's just because of the business I'm in and the things that I write about.

But I'm being contacted by parents all over the country who are saying that they are appalled at what's happening in their schools with critical race theory yeah but that's activating people but are they going to like trump couldn't even answer what critical race theory yeah i tweeted about that it was clear that not none of the three guys on the stage knew really what critical race theory was yep just the way they talked about it and chris wallace you know what this was the most infuriating thing to me. The dude didn't even bother Google searching what it was before he presented it to two presidential candidates. He's the one who picked these things. Talk about inept. Chris Wallace should be never.

Look, man, he's a nice guy. Boomer. He's a nice guy. Get him out of there. Get him out. Because he could have at least done a simple. He could have gone on Wikipedia and been like, here's critical nice guy. Get him out of there. Get him out. Because he could have at least done a simple, he could have gone to Wikipedia and been like, here's critical race theory.

Instead, he just parroted up garbage talking points he got from like some clickbait activist blog. He didn't even call it critical race theory, did he? No, exactly. I thought they called it racial sensitivity training. That means he didn't even know what Trump's policy was. Yeah. He had no idea.

That was pathetic. Talk about pathetic. So Trump clearly, he was pattering. When he was like, oh, it's bad. It's racist or whatever. It's, you know, Trump should have had a better answer for what it was. But you know what? He did ban it. And like, that's good.

But let me tell you something. I talked to my progressive friends, you know, and as much as like the lefties like to say Tim's anecdotes don't count. I don't care. Whatever the mic does. I'm gonna tell him anyway. And my friend was telling me that she's like all in for Biden, like all in for Biden. Trump is bad. And the conversation was interesting because I'm not I'm not sure, you know, I think she'll probably still vote for Biden.

But she was saying that Trump is the reason for cancel culture. No. And I'm like, that's right. Exactly. Of course not. Yeah. But the gist of the conversation that I took away from it was Trump's attitude is normalizing and inflaming all of this ridiculous behavior. And I said, Trump is a symptom, not the cause of the only reason Trump's here is because

this was bubbling up and people finally snapped and they were like, whatever, man, send in the bull. And so that Trump just storms through and he's ripping things apart. know he's like just trampling around and i don't mean that to say that he's destroying the system no he's like the establishment is getting trampled all over but it was interesting to me that my friend was like when we were talking politics she got really into how she was sick of cancel culture and how it's like everywhere and how people can't even talk anymore and i was like then why would you support Joe Biden? Well, because Trump just like won't shut up. He won't shut up. And I'm like, that's how you fight. That's how you fight cancel culture. That's how you fight political

correctness by not shutting up. And I've heard people criticize saying Trump isn't the right guy to fight critical race theory. And I'm like, get out of here. First of all, that's why I voted for him. That's what the whole book is about pretty much, except for economics and war and smaller things. But it's about fighting the cancel culture, woke political correctness, et cetera, radical feminism, all of that. And what I said in a tweet once was,

you know, he may not be, no, he is the man for the fight because he is the man fighting. Like who else is doing it? Well, I think we need better i'm not saying trump is like bad at the fight i'm saying there will come someone after trump yes who will be faster stronger better and right now trump is the avatar of that energy like all of that all of that anger over unjust systems the escalation of

leftist identitarianism the the the crony trade policies it formed this energy and it incarnated itself in in donald trump and so he's just like this it's almost like you i don't know if you get the reference you get do you watch dragon ball z do you know anything about it the very famous goku like he summons all of the energy from people all over the earth and then he throws it at the bad guy and crushes him. That's Trump. Trump is that energy being like just thrown at the establishment. So I do think there will come a time no matter what happens in this election where there

will be a very Trumpian, moderate, right-leaning conservative type, but who is faster, smoother, you know, more much more charismatic because this this personality is probably going to bubble up. There's going to be like a pop. There's going to be there's a, you know, 65 million people. One of them is going to start talking and then people are going to be like, check this person out. That's our leader. That's the person who's going to step up after trump so i i think like like like i'm not saying you know trump uh is bad i think there will be better though you know let's hope otherwise what what do we get you know what so so so i'll tell you this in the conversation now with my friend totally off the subject of cancel culture stuff. I just,

you know, she said to me, I'm worried there's way too many social issues that we're facing trouble with if Trump wins again. And my first response was like, you know, actually, I think it's the other way around. I think, you know, Trump, if he wins, we're going to get a lot of the same, you know, the way America has been. And if Biden wins, we're going to get a lot of the same, you know, the way America has been. And if Biden wins, we're going to get leftist identitarianism. But I'll tell you this. You know what? If you want to come and tell me that you're concerned about your comforts here in the United States and you voted for Barack Obama twice, this is your penance. Donald Trump has signed three historic peace agreements. This is incredible. I mean, all three of these agreements recognize Israel as a country.

The United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, two Arabic nations recognizing and normalizing relations. Amazing. Trump got nominated for two peace prizes over that. Then he's got, I think, technically one for those. Then he's got Kosovo, Serbia, which did include them recognizing Israel as well, but also normalizes relations. Nobel Peace Prize nomination. Then he gets the third nomination over the Trump doctrine of pulling our troops out of the Middle East and peace. So here we finally have, after how many years?

20 years. A president who's like, I don't care. I'm pulling the troops out. This was a mistake. Is it perfect? No. But my point to my friend was very simple. Over the past 20 years, how many civilians have been killed in these foreign conflicts

that we should have never been involved in? How much money wasted and how many Americans lives lost? And when Obama came around, you know, I voted for him, too. I voted for him. I'm like, here we go. Hey, the war was a problem. What does Obama do? He increased our footprint.

Him and Biden expanded our presence in North Africa and the Middle East, making everything work worse and not work worse. And now Libya, following the air raids and our involvement, has brought back slavery. And that was the Obama administration. And so I'll tell you this. You do not get to come to me and say, but what about my comforts when you voted for a guy twice? I would accept you voted for him the first time, but you voted for him again in 2012. And that means that he started more wars.

He got us deeper involved. And now people are dying. The first thing that needs to happen is the people need to stop dying. That's my opinion on this. Then after we stop the war, we can have a conversation about fixing things back here at home and, you know, reallocating those funds towards infrastructure, maybe fixing Flint and all that stuff. But the point I'm trying to make is right now, the president we have who's going to

end this endless war and garbage conflict and bring about peace is Donald Trump. And if that means he's the person I have to vote for to get that to get to that point, and it means you might have social issue troubles, Well, maybe you shouldn't have voted for Barack Obama because you can't just kick the can down the road. Take all of the good, sweet things he whispered into your ears while he bombed kids and civilians in foreign countries. And then finally, when I say I'm putting an end to what you voted for, you go, but what about me? Well, what about the kids that Obama blew up? OK, I'm sorry that you that like you're concerned about your your taxes you know or your social programs like i really am i want to make

sure that people have health care and all of these things too but if you're going to come to me and be like here's a kid who's scarred permanently because of like white phosphorus and drone strikes and hellfire missiles and here's you you know complaining that your health care is higher and cost this this this month around yeah but that's from obamacare first of all and second of all how many of these how many of these perceived social ills are real right and how and how many of them are actually being suffered by people who did vote for trump in the first place now funny thing when is when do they award the nobel peace prizes december december i'm pretty sure isn't it december man if only it were before the election i don't think they're not going to give it to

him dude it's it's it's why not yeah why not funny guy funny guy they nominated joe biden some some some british guy nominated joe biden that made me laugh. For what? For what? I don't know. My goodness. What is Joe Biden? Backing up Obama? No, no, no. He got nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for being out of politics for four years. But in the previous four years, he was blowing up kids. Yeah, cool.

That's the thing. It's not only is Trump pulling him out, which he is. Joe Biden was the VP that got it in. It's not like Trump or some other guy. It's Trump or the dude that helped perpetuate and Hillary Clinton also. You know what I think? Like fans, my disdain for the Democratic Party being someone who's like pretty liberal on policy issues is that I remember growing up having all of these people when I was like a teenager and, you know, getting older and coming into politics. Running around me saying, like, aren't you going to

fight against George W. Bush's war? It was wrong. And I see the music videos like System of a Down, and they're like, everyone's protesting. And I saw, and I said, this is BS. The media lied to us. There were no weapons of mass destruction. It was a scam. And now we're over there in some other country for who knows why people are dying. Our people are dying. We're wasting money. And I got mad. And so then Barack Obama comes around and I'm like, dying. We're wasting money. And I got mad. And so then Barack Obama comes around and I'm like, I don't know, man. And my friends were all like, dude, look, here's a video of Obama saying we're going to get our troops out of the Middle East. And I'm like, wow, we got to do it. We have to because everybody was was screaming in my ears

for these past eight years or six, seven years. So I voted for him. And then like within two weeks, Obama signed off on a drone strike, blow up a village, killing women and children. And I was like, who were these people? So then I immediately go to these people again. And I'm like, hey, remember that thing you were telling me about about ending the war? And they're like, oh, our guy won later. And they left. And all the activism stopped. All there was still some anti-war activists. They still exist. I think I respect them greatly. A lot of the anti-war left. They're still doing a great job. And many of them are very progressive. But all of a sudden, this big wave of people screaming and waving signs gone, just gone, just not there anymore. 2012 comes around and I'm

like, you you used me. You lied to me. You dangled corpses of children in front of my face and then told me that's why I had to vote for your guy. And I did it. And then you turned your back on me. I cannot stand these people. And now we're sitting here looking at it again. And Donald Trump is pulling the troops out. He's trying to. And both Democrats and Republicans are trying to stop him.

And he's got these historic peace agreements. And I'm like, there, finally. And then I get more progressives being like, but what about my social issues? OK, I'll tell you what. I'm going to. How about you come with me? I will literally fly you to Yemen and we'll go to the cafe that was blown up by Barack Obama. And after you look at it and talk to the families about their families dying,

then we'll come back and figure out what's more important to you. It was me being brought up by con artists who are trying to manipulate a young voter into supporting their guy. And they wanted war. And they cared for nothing but more war, more incursion, more BS. I will say, if Obama lost in 2008, it would have been John McCain, I think. You're right. And he would have got us into Iran. He would have been way worse. So Obama was the least bad in that situation, as horrible as he was. You are completely correct.

Oh, yeah, yeah. You are completely correct. McCain was you're completely correct mccain was was was way worse and psychotic and that's why this MAGA movement is different it's different than the democrats it's different than the GOP because that was one of the main things that people were talking about and if you remember time of the election last time it was Syria right Syria was the big thing and the dividing line and this is a whole chapter in my book democrats are are deplorable on Amazon. Go get it. Is was when Hillary Clinton was like, there's going to be a no fly zone. We're going to clarify, too, though, Ian, because you're correct. Mitt Romney and McCain were bad. McCain would have been the worst.

My issue is with the activists who told me I was standing side by side with them to end the war. And as soon as they won, they laughed and walked away. You know, I had a dream earlier today that I was talking to Jimmy Kimmel. And he was doing a show. And he was telling everyone, Trump is bad. He has to change this. He has to change this. He has to change this. And I said, no, I have to change it. We have to change it.

It's up to me. And then it was like a pause. And he said, I have to change it. And then everyone in the room started saying, I have to change it. And then Jimmy's show that he was doing stopped. It stopped because the whole yelling at Trump thing wasn't selling anymore. He no longer had a show. So he just sat down sat down he was like i've got to be the one and i said i'm sorry that taking responsibility isn't doesn't sell your product and he said it's okay that moment

of taking responsibility will go viral and then publicize the rest of my work going forward interesting a dream about jimmy kimm Jimmy Kimmel. That would never happen because Kimmel would just start laughing and he'd be like, but Trump is bad. I like that dream. I watched his appeal last night. It was disgusting. The garbage word vomit

coming out of the mouths of all of the late night comedians where they might as well just be all saying rabble, rabble, rabble. It's the same recycled garbage. They're not talking anything of substance.

They're not saying anything that matters. It is just like, hey, I'm just like you. I don't like Trump. Hey, we don't like Trump either. We got no reason to not like Trump. And then they say things like, did you see Donald Trump wouldn't disavow white supremacy? Any honest person who watched that did not walk away with that.

It's what they're hoping for is low information voters and low information culture war belligerents to be like well there's something to be mad about i guess i thought it was interesting how you said it wasn't so much about what was said but how i think you guys were alluding to how they were communicating the drop was just because i wonder if the telemundo stuff a lot of them maybe weren't english speakers that's a good point that's a really that's possible but one they definitely put subtitles, and two, they speak English in America. Let's not be like that. And three,

this is great. Can we talk about the Tolomino thing and the Latino workers? Of course, for sure, yeah. So, my background, actually, I went to Georgetown School of Foreign Service, and I have a master's degree from the School of Foreign Service with a focus on Latin America. So I have traveled all over Latin America. I've studied Latin American politics, economics, speak Spanish, the whole thing.

And when I hear all these people talking about demographics is destiny and we're having all these Latinos come into America and they're all going to be progressive left commies. Like, do these people know? They don't know anything about history. They don't know anything about culture. They don't know anything about Latin American culture. Right now we are facing a war of masculinity versus wokeism basically is what it boils down to and that's why trump is such a great avatar for this there are no i mean there are others but the latin american culture is masculine

heavy yeah machismo leadership like taking care of your family having a relationship with god and and christian Christianity and like order. And like this is this is the culture of Latin America. These are this is what people bringing into the United States. The fact that they ended up in some sanctuary city like in Montgomery County or whatever doesn't mean that they're automatically going to want to be socialist. Hell, half of them are trying to get away from the socialists in Latin America in the first place.

And we have seen numerous polls showing Trump doing increasingly well among Latino and Hispanic voters. One other thing. Who in the hell thinks that these Latin American voters think of themselves as being Hispanic? By the way, dude, a lot of them consider themselves to be white. Really? That's correct, yeah. Where are they from? They're from Spain and Portugal. Right. They're

European and of European descendant. And when people come from Spain and Portugal and they live in Latin America and South America, they stay connected to that European heritage because it provides a caste system in South America, which puts them at the top. Right. So they're very well connected to their European heritage. And when they come to the United States, they don't see themselves as being, you know, an indigenous person that just came across some border. No, there's still European descendant and European history. I think this whole notion that like all Latinos are just going to be blue voters no matter what is misguided, misfounded. And maybe, maybe this response to the debate is a piece of evidence showing that to be true.

I don't I don't know if how true this is. But my understanding is that the black community is actually much more conservative than they vote. Right. Yeah. So they vote overwhelmingly demographic, but they're very much, you know, Christian. You know, I can't remember. I was reading The Wall Street Journal, I think it was talking about Reverend, you know, Jesse Jackson. He's a reverend, right? Yeah. And L Sharpton. And they were saying that the key for Democrats into the black vote is through the church. I found that really interesting. And it's similar among the Hispanic community and Latinos, because many of them are religious, that they would vote against their, you know, their value system, their faith. Right. Doesn't make any sense. I think a lot of that demographics is destiny stuff is

hopeful thinking, wishful thinking for the Democrats. And we saw clear as day, Trump did better than all the most recent Republican candidates with the minority voters. And I do believe that that trend is going to continue i mean they've been really hammering it i mean candace and blugzid and all that stuff they've been really hammering and this 500 billion dollar package and like they're trying trump's platinum plan yeah brand the clan and antifa as domestic terrorists and 500 billion investment so there's a an nbc data thing called like it's called swing the election and they they give you sliders that allow you to adjust uh support okay i thought this was their motto no i wouldn't be surprised no no it's they took the voter data from 2016 they updated it for demographic changes like people becoming 18 and stuff. It shows that if everything stays the same as it was in 2016, Joe Biden wins.

If Donald Trump, if nothing else changes, but he gets 5% more of the black vote, he wins. If he gets 16% more of the Latino vote, he wins. However, he only needs 3% of the black vote and 5% of Latino vote to win as well. So he needs much less support among them if he gets a little bit from each, which, according to the polls, he has. Got it. Yeah. So Trump has lost support among, I believe, in the past, like, six or so months we've seen in the suburbs. Trump has been trying really hard to fight back for the suburbs. We see it in his tweets.

There go the suburbs. You know, Biden wants to get rid of the suburbs. And then really hammering the law and order narrative. I gotta say, man, if you're telling me that these parents are seeing this stuff in schools, are those suburban moms? Oh yeah, absolutely. You wanna know what else is crazy?

You know what I see? And maybe this is just me being biased. When I see Amy Coney Barrett, a suburban housewife. Heck yeah. Accomplished, successful, shattering the glass ceiling, but also being a mother to many kids. Seven kids. Seven kids, having faith, raising her family. That, I imagine, is going to represent

a lot of suburban housewives probably will see themselves. I'm not saying majority. I'm not saying how many. I just imagine. It's my assumption for better or for worse. There's going to be a lot of women who see Amy Coney Barrett, see her family, see her faith, whether they agree with any of it or not and be like that's a woman who has it all she did it and then the democrats are already going after attacking her kids

attacking her face she's a racist because she adopted these black kids and gave them a beautiful life and lots of love that's crazy i know and that comes from the king racist on their side yeah yeah so i'm wondering if you you know, whatever his name is. If Trump is going to improve his standing now amongst suburban housewives because of things like that, if he's already, according to so many polls, like Rasmussen has him up really high among Latino voters. Whether you trust Rasmussen or not, they were the ones who were the most accurate in 2016 on the national vote totals. So they nailed it with only like 0.4% or whatever everyone else was off by like a whole point or more so maybe maybe they're right about this but they show that trump support among the black community is insanely high yeah now a bunch of these lefties are like it's because rasmussen is

sampling the wrong people and they're trying to make excuses for it but we saw also emerson and zogby say that trump support from the black vote is upwards of like between 20 and 30 percent. Trump only needs 5 percent more support from from the last time to win. And if he's polling it, even 15, he won. He needs to get 13 percent. If he's pulling at 15 percent and they come out to vote for him, he won. It's over. There's nothing else Biden's going to be able to do. I think that's why they're going so hard on the white supremacy stuff, on Black Lives Matter, because they know Trump only needs a little bit of support from that community.

The crazy thing is, if you use this NBC slider thing, if Trump gets like more than half of the black vote, Illinois turns red. Like, that's crazy. I'm like, I can't imagine anything like that ever happening. But I got to say, man. You're getting me pumped that ever happening but i gotta say man you're getting me pumped dude yeah go ahead you get me pumped i just had a vision of a red map with a blue dot in my hometown illinois turning red could you imagine dc turning red i can't imagine because if you've been to illinois it makes total sense oh for sure if you've been anywhere outside of the loop it makes perfect plus that trump is like a liberal guy that ran in the republican party so he's got this red tag on

him but he's not like a right-leaning and that's why they're conservative the establishment republicans didn't like him yeah they tried to stop this is a great point going back to your friend and the activists who used you right and as soon as their you know their guy was in and whatever they just didn't care they didn't care about the war because these are partisan people right they were partisan people and the party at the time was against bush and the bush wars so they're being partisan so the reason why trump is so exciting is because even the people in the Republican Party that voted for Trump were saying no to the Republicans, to 17 other whatever it was, Republican primary candidates in 2016.

They say no to the establishment. And the Democrats are deplorable voters like me, like you. Coming up here, buddy. Right. Coming up here, buddy. We are nonpartisan. We're in pursuit of the truth. I'm looking at this guy.

And the best thing. Are you on the record? you're voting after last night just in the first 10 minutes the the dreariness in biden i just my soul had decided for me and that was with full stage makeup yeah seriously yeah yeah yeah so we we ian and i have arguments like ian you you're like nah i'm not voting for any i mean i was gonna vote for neither of them. Last time I voted for Jill Stein because I couldn't stomach it. But she's a Russian. I know.

Now it's just not – there's no third-party candidate that I like. I mean, there's nothing that stood out. And Trump's anti-war stance and getting us out of the PPP – TPP. TPP. Excuse me. PPP. It's exhilarating i mean we need it's just stuff that i've wanted to do for a long time because i i remember well like you know not you and i would have arguments and you would be saying like he's not going to vote for trump and i'm at the obama

administration and like you were going off on it how bad it was yeah trump's the one who shut it down the uh investor state dispute settlement was going to give foreign corporations the power to sue our government if we you know uh chose not to buy their products if they call it um i don't know whatever if we discrimination there was a discrimination clause and uh then they could sue our government and our taxes would have to pay these you know east asian corporations and they were all on board with it selling you know selling us out basically globalizing the that's what we were fighting against right is is giving up our sovereignty as a nation to all of these supranational agreements and organizations that

don't have the people of the united states first and foremost in all their decision making which is what donald trump promised to do and he has revived a sense of american nationalism that i think is going to continue on now for decades this is the new trend for us even but but beyond that they don't it didn't have the individuals uh good intent it like rights it wasn't just an american thing it was like stripping individuality from us it was giving it to the corporate but but not even that my my my take on it is nothing is is not from a nationalist perspective it's actually the inverse not the united states government has sent has has you know engaged in these endless wars oh you're you're respecting the nationalism and the national autonomy of those other nations exactly so

look nationalism isn't just for america for everybody what i mean is like yeah the idea of bringing the factories back and all that stuff i i love it it's fantastic we definitely want to do that but for me it's about international relations and that we've been wasting money building roads and schools in foreign countries when our own town of flint has been in desperate need of fixing all of these pipes and we've got schools in our countries when our own town of flint has been in desperate need of fixing all of these pipes and we've got schools in our major cities that are in desperate need of repair and help and our hospitals look man i love the meme where it's like the groggy looking sad dude saying can we please have health care have you seen that one there will be like there

was a really funny one where it was a uh that it was like the navy tweeted we're building 50 new destroyers or some crazy thing and then one of these progressives posted the sad man saying, can we please have health care? And I'm like, I feel you, dude. 100%. I understand the need for military. I understand what it's all about. But how much money are we spending overseas to build things that we don't have here?

Hey, I got an idea. If we end all these wars, we can build that hospital here. Yeah. See, that works for the nationalists, the American nationalists, and that works for the anti-war left. That's why I don't understand why the progressives aren't saying,

I will take Trump if it means we're going to end these wars straight up. But they won't do it. Like the Intercept, for instance, is very, you know, Glenn Greenwald is, he goes on Fox News. He seems to be a pretty good dude, but his outlet is so orange man bad.

It's confusing to me. When he literally writes, the establishment is stopping Trump from withdrawing our troops in the Middle East. I'm like, you guys rag on Trump all the time. OK, are you going to say we're like, are you going to accept that your best chance towards ending all of these things you don't like is through Trump? Or are you going to play the orange man bad narrative for clicks? Pick one.

Because I'm not going to listen to you if you're coming out saying the Democrats and Republicans block Donald Trump's efforts to withdraw. I don't care. I think you're full of it. You're just saying that. Orange man can be bad and still do good. Like you don't have Batman was a jerk. Like Batman would, you know, he wasn't known for his great charisma. But what I'm saying is they put

out the smears they put out the ridiculous fake news the proud boys are alt-right white supremacist brah donald trump supports them it's like dude you can write me a great piece and say i i love the story from the intercept that said donald trump is like the most honest and dishonest president at the same time because he lies about really dumb things for like who knows why he'll be like i didn't i didn't go to that club with that woman what are you talking about it's a lie it's not true you're lying but then when it comes to military and spending he's like we got the soldiers in syria guarding the oil that's what we're there for it's fantastic it's like he literally said that i'm like okay dude that's hey man look if trump tried to withdraw our troops and they went nuts and attacked him for it

and both Democrats and Republicans were blocking his moves, he comes out. That's how he's getting them. He's he's pulling the mask off of what they're doing. And and that's the first step, getting the American people mad about our waste of time, money and the lives being lost over here. I want to ask you, Jack, when what's your so you wrote the book, obviously, Democrats are deplorable. And what was your transition like? Did you vote for obama i did both times i did and then what what what

changed you man it was a combination of things but really it was like beginning to feel the pressure of this white people bad stuff uh 2013 2014 especially the Rolling Stone rape hoax. You know, for me, it was a lot of like the title nine, this fake rape stats and radical feminism. So really it all started for me after I got divorced and I was like trying to figure out how to date again, 2020 or 2010. And you know, this dating market had changed a lot since I had been married for 10 years before that. So I start reading, start figuring things out and I start pulling on the string and I'm like, man, this radical feminism is pretty whack. You start pulling on it, pulling on it, pulling on it. I've been pulling on the very same string of radical feminism into intersectionality, into critical race theory, all the way to this very day.

I'm still carrying on the very same thread. And at the core of all this cultural dispute and everything that we're having is began with an attack on masculinity. And it began with radical feminism. And it has now just morphed and mutated and combined with Marxism and racism and intersectionality into what we see today. But I've been tracking the same thing for 10 years. And it became very clear to me i can remember very vividly when clock boy brought that fake bomb to school and he got arrested for detained like three hours or whatever and obama and everybody had been telling us you know in this this high alert terroristic you know time if you see something say something there's

signs all over the metro all over the buses and the airports if you see something say something save a life and then these these teachers at a school saw somebody look like a bomb they're like yo this it's it's beeping and there's a timer and it looks like a bomb we should do something and obama decided to come down on the side of this kid who brought this fake bomb to school discredited and demeaned all of us who worked in education worked in law enforcement were trying to keep the country safe and he did it to score woke points and that's when i realized for sure at the end that he was fake and full of it and uh and then you start learning about american nationalism and what we've done with

globalism etc and it all just came together and donald trump coming down the that freaking escalator yes and and this is what I was trying to explain to my friend. Donald Trump isn't making any of this happen. Donald Trump is the result of all of it happening. And then people all sending their energy to the angry bull who slammed headfirst into the doors of the ivory tower. That's a good point. He's surfing the wave. He didn't create the wave.

Right. Yeah. Well, I view it like Trump is a bull with big old golden horns massive ones golden what horns i didn't know i didn't know which way you're going oh no he's just he's stomping around and then the townspeople were sick of the people in the tower condescending and insulting and manipulating and so they're just like they smacked the ball in the butt and the ball went just right into the ivory tower trampled around and they're just like – they smacked the bull in the butt and the bull went – just right into the ivory tower, trampled around. And they're all going, oh, my god.

There's a bull. Help us. Get it out. And they scream out to Bernie Sanders and he's helping them. And the progressives are like, don't worry, ivory tower. We'll help stop the bull from damaging your lofty one percenter. I don't get it. I don't understand why the progressives are on board with that.

There's still way more damage to be done to the ivory tower it's going to take decades yeah right and so let me ask you guys what do you is there anybody who voted for trump in 2016 realistically who's not gonna vote for him again maybe on the small handful teeny tiny margins yep right single but yet all the reasons not even that were in place that catapulted Trump to victory in 2016 are still in place, have been getting worse. They're like more in your face. And we're seeing him fix them. And we're seeing him fix them.

And people think Joe Biden will bring you back to normal. That is a sad, sad bit of wishful thinking. It's not true. We're not going back. So is Joe Biden's normal a normal that we actually want to go back to? Is Obama's world a world we want to go back to? Is this Middle Eastern involvement really something that we want? Because it's like, I did not like, I didn't like, I didn't care for Obama because I was super conservative. But now listening to all his warmongering stuff,

I'm like, this is insane. So I have a question for you guys. Do you guys think that there's any way that we can go back to the way things were before after Trump? Or do we mentioned a little bit about how more personalities like him are going to rise up? Do you think that's going to be a trend? I don't think we'll ever go back to the way things were before. But I'm positive. But I think that's a good thing. Yeah.

Yeah. I think Donald Trump is not Donald Trump is not some guardian angel descending from heaven to save all of the virtuous. Donald Trump is an angry bull. And it was what was available at the time for the angry townspeople. But after the ivory tower has been finally vacated by the people as they run for the hills, then the townspeople can make an educated decision and find that person who can actually go and start representing them.

So this is what I said to my friend. If Joe Biden gets elected, you are kicking the bull out of the tower. He's going to lock the door. The Democrats hate Bernie. They hate Ocasio-Cortez. You will never step foot in that building again once they win. Now, if Trump gets the opportunity to win and kicks them out and they're gone, the best they could muster right now is Biden.

They're on the ropes. The establishment is about to be crushed. And all of these cronies like Rick Wilson and these never Trumpers, when they got booted from the Republican Party by Trump, ran screaming as political party refugees to the Democrats saying, help us, help us. We got kicked out of the tower. The Democrats said, come, we'll nurture you in our bosom and protect you because we're all establishment cronies together.

So I told my friend, don't let them take the keys back. Kick them out. And then after four years of Trump, because the next four years, whether you look, I was like, you don't like Trump, right? And you don't like Biden. So don't vote for Biden. Just let Trump do his thing. He's gone in four years.

And then you have the opportunity for an actual left wing populist to come and have a real argument with a right wing populist. It's going to be Buttigieg. He is basically the establishment's grooming candidate right now. Only if they win, we can get through to him. Yeah. Oh, either way, they're going to be pushing him in 2024. Not and we can get through to him, though, and make him not crazy. I think I think if Donald so you look at who they have left. They have Joe Biden. The dude struggles. Okay. He struggles.

He's not going to be viable next. They couldn't do Hillary Clinton. There are no prominent Democratic figures. None. If Donald Trump wins, it's over for them. The establishment will be talking about the military industrial complex. So this is what i was thinking earlier i think like you were saying lydia do we go back to what it was before

and it's before america was the world police i think yeah because i don't think having a world police one country be the world police makes much sense anymore it's too much pressure on the country um but if america were to stop being a world police would china just fill that gap yes well for their own interest that's the thing yeah is there a way to global being a world police, would China just fill that gap? Yes. Well, for their own interests. That's the thing. Yeah. Is there a way to globalize a world police so that no nation takes control? No, thank you.

No, but there's mutually assured destruction. China doesn't want to go to war with us, and we're dangerously close as it is. So I think... Conventional war. They're at war with us on every front, every angle right now anyway. I think that one of the contributing factors as to why we're on the precipice of war is because of world policing. Yeah, for sure. Precipice of war with whom?

China. No, we're already at war. Oh, yeah, right, right, right. We're already at war. I mean conventional full hot war. No, that's done. That's not going to happen. We are currently engaged in a fourth generation warfare with China.

They're pumping a country full of drugs the same way we pumped their country full of drugs in the last century. They're taking over infrastructure and trading routes all over the world. They're pumping us full of freaking propaganda. They're running TikTok and pushing the algorithm to corrupt our youth there's they're they're helping these activists you know these collectivist activists they're helping on every front we are at war and they're actually at war with themselves because that communist party has co-opted the citizens they are not the citizens don't want to do that stuff but this this party but they do and they're in the military and they and they contribute they

control the military that's authoritarianism but yes we are we are we are in fourth generational and and i believe that we need to be more explicit about that one of the reasons i voted for trump and it's in the book democrat to the plural did i mention that yes i wrote a book i wrote a book it's selling really well too uh the one of the things to talk about is changing the language in the conversation around China. Biden, for so many years, China, China, starting back with the WTO in the 90s, where we let them into the World Trade Organization, which was protested, by the way, by Antifa and BlackRock, which is funny because they're anti-globalist at the time. Yep. We have started since then just giving our country away to the point now where in a pandemic, we didn't have all the supplies and we had risks of drugs running out and all kinds of bad things that are happening. And so we need to actually be saying China and the United States, these are is an antagonistic

relationship right now. And we need to be changing the energy there. And I think that that has been accomplished. Wasn't that, that was the battle in Seattle, battle in Seattle. That was the world trade organization protests.

Leftists were shutting down streets in opposition to global trade policy. Right. Amazing how many of these people are now older and still part of the left, but in complete a complete inversion to what they once believed. And that's part of that's that's part of the problem. I see that not only did I feel used by the activists who are like, vote for Obama, vote for Obama, you know, end the war. And then he made it worse and they walked away. It's also them saying like, hey, look at all these things that are really bad. And, you know, these trade policies, look, we're protesting. I'm like, great. And then years go by and they're like, oh, we we we flipped 180 on that one.

Dude, you want to talk about being used? Let's talk about Gen X, Gen X and race. OK, I'm 44 years old. I was raised by my culture and everyone around me. Just a Nazi color, Nazi gender, Nazi race. Sound like I'm saying nazi right not see race to not see any of these things and to judge people on the content of their character and we did all that and we lived in that manner and then you get to adulthood and what do they say now too bad dude you're a racist white

supremacy your color matters color matters they used us gen. They used us and we're bitter. You know what triggers me a whole lot about these people? The progressives are the ones who fought for loving the Virginia, ending miscegenation laws. They have created generations of mixed race people for which they now essentially disavow as either bend the knee and be privileged or be white so that's that's that's these people i i think you know i was talking to someone about robin d'angelo's book where she basically she says i have no answer for how a mixed race person is supposed to function i don't know her exact quote but she basically just like shrugs it off but in this woke world of like racial discrimination you know like ibram x kendy and robin d'angelo they don't have a't have a space for people of mixed race that the progressives actually, you know, created the laws which allowed these generations to flourish and

exist. Now they're creating, now the left is embracing these policies and ideas that essentially say, okay, all of one race here, all of one race here. Uh-oh, this one's both. What do we do? So that to me is particularly offensive. It's like you're the activist right now claiming you cared about these things. You cared about the dream of Martin Luther King Jr. And now you're holding up signs with his quotes on it while fighting against his dream. I can fully support you, man, with the Gen X thing. I'm 41.

And I basically caught the tail end of Gen X. Raised with the exact same ideals. We are all the same. Not identical. But, not, not identical, but man, you look past what you see and that's who we were. We're unity, you know?

And then I went to occupy wall street and was ready to talk about the constitution was told we're not having any more white people speak. You can't speak to the news. We had too many white people. Too many white people that I saw that written on a board at my last job that I got fired from when I got doxed by Antifa and they fired me for being a Nazi. I got canceled. But while I was there on the white board, that was the note taking for the diversity inclusion and equity committee. They wrote on the board literally too many white people working here.

How is that legal? It's not. It's totally illegal. It's totally illegal. It's a violation. It's a hostile work environment. It's a violation of my civil rights. And when I spoke up about it, I got fired.

Oh, my gosh. And so now in California, as most people who are watching probably know, because I bring it up all the time, the Democrats are trying to repeal the civil rights passage in their constitution and they call it the affirmative action bill. So then when I try talking to people, they're like, but it's for affirmative action. I say, oh, can you point to the language in the bill that's for affirmative action? What do you mean? It says affirmative action.

It's the title. It's Antifa. Oh, so if I make a bill called the Patriot Act, it's for being a patriot. Yeah. That whole part about locking people up indefinitely, you know, and all that stuff, that's patriotism. That's exactly it.

You know what's really remarkable about the modern left is the semantic tools they use to manipulate low-information voters. We are anti-racist. Therefore, if you oppose us, you're a racist.

Now, anti-racism holds the exact same tenets of racism, but the name is different. You know, it's like we're anti-racist. We didn't say we're not. We just, you know, it's just call someone else anti-fascism. Well, they're violent authoritarians, not technically fascists.

It's in the name. It's clever. You know, I have a belief this might be a little esoteric, but I think that the human mind is not logical. It's more. You know, I have a belief, this might be a little esoteric, but I think that the human mind is not logical. It's more emotional. So when you say double negatives, they don't translate

properly to the human mind. So if I say don't be evil, they're hearing don't be evil. And they're hearing be evil, even though I said don't before it. So when you're saying anti-fascist, you're putting out the fascist energy. And so it's making these people that way well they're fascistic they're not fascist right and what that means is they use a lot of the same tactics and they hold many similar ideologies

but on core components they're not fascist like they're not nationalists they're not traditional what is fascism anyway man what is your definition of it? I thought it was corporate government collusion. So I think the official like academic understanding of what fascism was, was ultra nationalistic authoritarianism. And so that could also mean you want to take over the world, but your country is in charge of everyone else. So the main difference I see, and I could be wrong, I'm not a historian or anything. Here's the interesting thing about the communists and the fascists they use the same symbolism okay when they raise the fist have you noticed they raise the fist and they point their fingers at you it's the the fist symbol with the fingers facing you is a symbol of all the fingers together making a strong unit the fist we can punch but individually the finger was weak that's what the uh the what is it fascist is

how you pronounce it fascist the fascist that's the weapon of all the sticks tied together with the blade in it. That individually they were, together they were a strong weapon. They believed the same, the same core tenets of banding together for power. The difference was fascists, at least today, neo-fascism, is traditionalist. Only, you know, the men are the ones who work, the women are, you know, raising the kids and in the house and antifa are fascistic in their tech in their techniques and everything but they're ultra progressive they believe year zero culture revolution abolish gender abolish tradition abolish religion burn books so but did they the same black block people the same antifa people it did they believe that when they were promoting

globalism or and you know uh protesting against globalism in in the 90s wto i don't know do you think they have any actual real core value i think it's new people with the same title like the next generation they just different people with different mindsets my mom sent me this video where there's a bunch of people sitting in a dentist's office, and they're all actors. A woman comes in for an appointment and sits down, and then a bell chimes, and everyone stands up, and she looks around all confused. Then

everyone sits down right away. Then she goes back, bell chimes again. Everyone stands up. She looks confused. Eventually, she just stands up too. All of a sudden, she's standing up and sitting down every time a bell rings. One by one, the people, the actors leave. And then all that's left is her. Bell chimes.

She stands up, sits down. New guy comes in, an actual patient, sits down and sees her standing up and sitting down. And he goes, what are you doing? And she's like, I just, we're supposed to do it. Everyone's doing it. He's like, oh. So he starts standing up too. Then one by one, new people come in for their appointments.

And then all of a sudden, everyone is standing up and sitting down having no idea why they did it. It just transferred over. I think what we see with the left in Antifa is it is a chaotic, destructive force with no principle and no plan. It is just the embodiment of rage. So that's why they oppose the World Trade Organization. And then now they're in favor of the World Trade Organization, I guess. It's collectivist. I think this is something, gosh, I don't remember.

G.G. Everett Griffin was talking about it. Like individualism versus collectivism. And that's really where we're at right now. Fascists and communists are collectivists. Yes. You know, you could say that. And Jordan Peterson talks about this. Yeah.

So the collectivism, it could be, I don't know if it's just dangerous in general. I think it is because i think that individualism makes people strong because when you have individualism you have personal responsibility when you start to lose individualism you lose personal responsibility and you lose like maybe this comes down to people not experiencing the effects of their own actions like not being disciplined maybe when they're growing up i don't know if that's cause or effect but I think that the individualism is so strongly tied to personal responsibility, you can see a culture start to crumble when you start to lose individualism. That's just my two cents. It's a bunch of antifa is a bunch of kids who have been given everything whenever they cried about it. So they're crying about it trying to get it. I think it's funny,

you know, these college kids, people talk about how colleges are indoctrinating young people. And I'm like, it's not in the way you think it is. Certainly there are professors that are ridiculously woke and woke walkers or whatever you want to call them. But a lot of what indoctrinates them is just the fact that they wake up, they're told what to do, and when they complain, they're given whatever they want. Then they graduate, and there's no longer – complain they're given whatever they want then they graduate and there's no longer so so they're kids and they're like i want you to imagine now you know a 30 a 38 year old woman with an eight-year-old kid and she's standing in the ice cream shop and the kid's screaming and pounding his feet saying i want two scoops and then she's like okay okay okay please two

scoops quickly he's yelling at me oh my ears and she gives the kid what he wants that kid grows up goes to college now you see it with that video like nick kristakis remember that he's at halloween and they're screaming like no matter what he says they're just like shut up that's the same kid grown up now whose parents just said whatever you want you they're yelling in my ears it's a lack of masculine energy in the world i think that's it and now what we end up getting is even these professors who are respectable are not being tough like when a professor gets surrounded and they're screaming at him he goes okay okay i listen i'm listening i hear what you're saying instead of being like f you shut up get out of my face and this is because the doctrines infiltrated the top levels of the organizations and will fire those professors if they stand up to the weakness.

Because people are more concerned about getting that quick buck than what's right. That's another big problem. You know, I love it when people are like, I have a problem with capitalism. Like, you know, I got to say there is an issue when people are like, I will sell out my principles as long as I get paid at the end of the day. That's not an issue of capitalism, though. It's an issue of no shared values and morals. Mic drop. Agreed.

Yeah, definitely. Can you look up the Mike Tyson quote? Right, exactly. I mean, the thing about it is we can see everywhere that there's a failure of masculine leadership. There's a failure of family. There is a failure of strong community, of discipline, of leadership, of accountability. And the definition of collectivism really is that you don't, it's, it's shared responsibility. And when you have shared responsibility,

then no one has any responsibilities. When you have individual responsibility, that's when you can collectively have responsibility it trickles up from the individual i heard a quote maybe it was nassim toleb and he said that he is like a communist at home and he is like a socialist in his community and then he is a libertarian off in the you know for his political views and that is the way it is at home right i mean dude i work daddy works daddy pays daddy provides i'm happy to share it's easy peasy according you know for me according to my ability to them according to their needs yeah right but i don't want to see that kind of crap at the the you know the federal level right level yeah i got i got

this quote i'm assuming it's real. This is from World Boxing News. Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it. Mike Tyson. I don't know if that's a real quote or whatever. I saw it going around. It sounds like he said it. I mean, it's even in a Taylor Swift song. Which one?

Right. Not this last album, but the one that came out before where it's like something about tweets in the streets. It's knockout you know just like saying like she gets a lot of harassment right online and stuff and she sees it and uh you know i felt it when i heard that song for the first time because you know i get some hate out there and uh it's interesting that you know no it's the same phenomenon when you're in your car right like when you're in your car and you're in traffic and you you're willing to like bully somebody with your car cut them off and give them the finger it's because you're insulated from real life right let me tell you something when i am standing in

line to get into somewhere i'm six four two fifty how many people walk up and cut in front of me zero zero but people will elbow their way in within their cars and then they get mad at you right it's like when people are detached from the outcomes of their actions like antifa has been their they just go buck wild have you seen have you seen the viral video where there's like a fence and the two dogs are yelling at each other and barking and then the fence starts opening it's like a gate slides and then once it opens the dogs just stop and like slowly turn around and walk away like oh no now i got to be accountable for my actions yeah so this lack of masculine energy is directly linked to the era of social media i think it emphasizes it but the the the attack on masculinity has been ongoing since the 60s what's the why what what caused it or what brought it on well it was the it was when

feminism decided that they needed to wrench the power from the patriarchy and all page all societies are patriarchal all patriarchies are oppressive and if you are to end oppression you must end the patriarchy and what is the source of patriarchy's power masculine energy so you have to attack it at the source so it's very logical if they want to do this you see that viral tiktok where it's like this chick is putting on makeup and getting ready for school and she's like y'all women in the 60s want to be wanted me to be independent i don't want to be independent and then she starts yelling i want to be a housewife i want to make dinner for my husband but now i have to go to school and then she like storms off it's actually really funny it's very it's funny it's true it's sad the worst thing that happened with

feminism is that they decided that the ideal woman looked like the ideal man right instead of saying what the ideal woman should look like i've been saying champion femininity i've been saying this for a long time feminism is destroying femininity yes because it's championing masculine concepts for women so you take a look at captain marvel they they're like okay we're gonna make a superhero movie that's traditionally a male role but women should do it too oh well sure but that what you're basically saying is the ideal man is is is paramount is peak humanity right the point is if you have a movie where a guy is a superhero when he's saving the day and then your response is women should be like the man instead of the man should be like the woman you're basically saying the men is what we

should all strive the masculine is what we should all strive to be but then the problem is it it comes down to it's not how do i phrase this it disinherits women well they're they're they're attacking men right because they're trying to prop women up in masculine roles which creates which which destroys both right that's the point i'm trying to make exactly right exactly right by saying that the ideal woman is is a man then in order to get women into those positions, you have to degrade the existing men. You have to degrade the existing system in order to make space.

Now, this is echoed in critical race theory when it comes to race. If you sign these, these bubbles that are like, oh, this is when you're an early, like a tadpole of a, of a anti-racist. And then when you get to your fully developed anti-racist self it says specifically and this was at the smithsonian published yeah says uh white people yield positions of power to people of color amazing detail specific actual call out okay it's the same concept it's like we need to get these people out of power so that we can take the power. Did you see in the book, In Defense of Looting, they basically said that – or I saw – I could be wrong.

So fact check me. Said that Jewish people and Asians represent the face of capital. And then a bunch of people are like – that sounds an awful lot like what Nazis were saying. But it's – they believe a lot of the exact same thing. Not to play into Godwin's law. What they wanted to do was get rid of oppression or diminish oppression, the feminists. And then they conflated patriarchy with oppression. And that's where that skewed.

That's like where Hitler conflated the Jews with the banking power structure that he wanted to overcome or whatever the power structure. He thought just because a lot of Jewish people were in those positions that it was the jewish i don't even know i think the dude was just like he went after jewish people for sure but as it accidentally as the feminists went after men accidentally because they were just trying to undo the oppression system so the fake oppression system yeah and it was just not critical race as they're trying to undo the white people. But what they really want is to undo the oppression. Well, this is the joke.

Whichever group you want to be a part of, you got to figure out who your target is. If you want to be an occupier, the 1%. The 1% is responsible for the war. They're the one who controls the bank and the money. If you want to be, you know, a conspiracy theorist, the Illuminati. The Illuminati is making all the wars. And basically, you can take any one of these groups, any know, a conspiracy theorist, the Illuminati, the Illuminati is making all the wars. And basically, you can take any one of these groups, any group, anti-racist, fascist, whatever, and you can ascribe all of the same problems, oppression and conflict and strife and suffering.

You want to be a communist? Well, the capitalists are causing the war because the war machine, the capitalists are the ones who are oppressing you. You just pick whichever group you change the noun and all of a sudden, congratulations to whichever group you want to be. It's a failed tactic. I mean, it's a tactic that leads to what we're seeing right now. I mean, is it a failed tactic? I mean, they're chipping away at the patriarchy.

They're chipping away at this sense of oppression. Well, I guess the argument would be that it will destroy us in the long run. Well, that's what we've been trying to say, and that's why we're trying to fight back. I've been tweeting and writing about this for years it is woke versus men or woke versus masculine energy and we need to have a revival of masculine energy you know you know what's really interesting to me i grew up watching shows comic book shows you know like superhero stuff and they always have the men and the women on equal footing you know i never really thought about it so when i was when i was little watching say anime or superhero stuff you can see wonder woman she's you know depending on the on what you're watching

she's like top tier superhero as strong as the men or stronger actually there are a bunch of there's tons of anime where there's strong female characters with like top tier abilities and they're like main characters and so in fiction the ideas created among particularly among you know young people who watch this stuff that men and women are equally powerful and then something interesting happened when when i when i was skateboarding and i turned 16 and then all of a sudden it was like wow there's a real power disparity between men and women in skateboarding then i turned 18 and i went to the x games and I was with my friend and I got to meet a bunch of the top female skaters. And I mean this with no disrespect at all, but they just don't compare to the men. And then all

of a sudden I heard from the mouth of one of the top female pros, you will never be as good as a man. And that she was telling to the other women. And I thought that was interesting to grow up seeing all this fictional content where men and women are equals in every way, fighting each other. Or sometimes women are stronger, Captain Marvel, for instance. But then you go on the real world and you watch sports or work and it's like men and women are clearly different. I really, I really, I have a lot of strong feelings about this. I've been containing myself. I really hate this idea that men and women need to be on an equal playing.

Well, not that they need to be on equal playing field, but they need to be the same. Because I'm seeing a lot of the idea that they have to be the same like women can be stronger than men like captain marvel really did not make me happy i was like why should a woman need to be as strong as a man why don't you find something interesting that a woman really is good at in real life and you empower normal women to do normal woman things to do them really well and to like assign some kind of value to that because that would be interesting but what would be different but i think about uh like sparta right i think it's the spartans the only i i don't know if this is true but i read that the only way a spartan would get a gravestone is if they died in war in battle and the only way a woman would get a gravestone

gravestone is if she died in childbirth i don't know if that's true but i was like i was watching 300 so i started like reading about sparta and know if that's true. Beast. But I was like, I was watching 300s. I started like reading about Sparta and stuff like that. I like your, oh. Well, I was going to say like, if jumping into a burning building, you know, and pulling out the puppies and the children and saving them is a masculine thing. Being the hero, being the strong adventurer, the warrior. What would a feminine, you know, know movie be what would the heroic female be doing raising alexander the great yeah his mother training impressive training you know look there's

a phrase there's a saying the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world interesting right it's the moms that put ideas into the kids heads and it it's it. And it's the women that the men desire that spur men into conquest, into creation, into building things, into protecting and preserving things. So like that Game of Thrones, where you have the women

who are at high-ranking positions, who are royalty or whatever, and the men are all fighting the war and stuff. Yeah, I don't... Who got this idea that it's like, it's better to go to war and get chopped up in a meat grinder than to stay at home and to take care of the farm and the kids but not but but that's but but that's even still we're talking about the the peasant class or the working class yeah you like in looking at game of thrones you had tons of female characters who were in positions of great power who were directing the men to go into the meat grinder and go to war for them.

And so there was a lot of drama and a lot of power behind what they did. You look at those characters like Cersei Lannister was extremely powerful. Now, mind you, I mean, the show kind of trailed off and nobody cares anymore. But I'm using as an example that you've got a lot of shows where you can see female power and how they wield it and how it's represented. And it's dramatic and it's it's fantastic well i mean look there's in and we're talking about spanish latin culture and spanish language it's el sol right masculine in la luna yep right right okay and then and then it's it's also mother earth right so we we have in us in our history in our archetypes in our dna in our evolution this, in our DNA, in our evolution, this idea that

there are polarities. Yeah. Jordan Peterson talks about it. And you need them both. And that like the great caretaker that guards us all and provides this warm, safe, wet environment for us to live in, you know, it's female energy as well. You know what's really crazy? What's the stereotype of when a soldier is dying?

What does he yell? yell screams out for his mother yes he does he doesn't yell dad nope he yells mom mother you lived inside her for nine months that's crazy man that's that that's that that to me is one of the greatest like uh disrespects of of modern feminism that there is kind of it feels and i'm not saying this of all women i'm not saying this of all feminists but there is a general like ignoring of the power of motherhood and femininity kind of gets me diminishment like they're like i i one of my one of my friends just ignoring they are tearing it down well so one of one of my friends posted on facebook how she got uh i don't know what the right word is for it but

you can't have kids anymore by choice she went to a doctor oh tubal ligation i i i guess it's like tubes tied thing but more than that like irreversible hysterectomy no no not a hysterectomy but where they use like high heat to sear it yes so it's it was a tube tubes tied followed by cauterization and they were celebrating that they'll never be a mother and i was like why do you feel that feel that way? You know, like, why would you go through that? I mean, it's your life. You can do what you want. I'm not telling you you can't do it. I'm just curious.

Like, why? And I wonder if it's a product of society telling young women not to be this way. And then you think about like, who's that woman? Abigail Schreier, I think. So Joe Rogan had this woman on who is talking about like rapid onset gender dysphoria and stuff and how it's typically young women being told they're trans because they like doing certain masculine things and so it feels like there's there's there's two fronts here that are targeting young women and taking away their agency one telling them

that they shouldn't be they shouldn't like what they like there was a reddit post that went pretty viral i think you might know what i'm talking about you gotta oh you gotta look on your face like you knew this one no no it was it was a couple saying we're raising our daughter to be genderless but she keeps demanding pink dresses our three-year-old yeah you know whatever and i'm like that's fine maybe that's what she wants like why would you deny that if your kid has made a choice you know what i mean like that's so then they're telling their kid not to want these things. And then when their kid says, OK, they go, aha, now you should go to the doctor and get, you know, hormone therapy or something. Right.

So one of the main concepts of critical race theory is queering. Right. So queer is not a noun anymore. It's a verb. And it means to break down barriers. It means to change down barriers. It means to change categories, right? Like to queer something means to take it from what it is and transform it into something else.

Usually like it's opposite. I never heard this. Yeah. Yeah. James Lindsay writes about it all the time. And so it's you queering a thing, right? That's why you can have, you know, straight, otherwise says whatever girls calling themselves queer is because in their mindset, they're like trying to help, you know, shred the boundaries.

And now this is a theme that we see everywhere right now, which is the elimination of boundaries, right? You can see it from globalism. You can see it in social media. You can see it with the pandemic. You can see it with gender. We are the, the, the last 23 years have been about trying to obliterate boundaries so that there's no way to actually identify who you are.

One of the ways that you identify who you are is by identifying what you're not. Right. Right. And you can take note over here and over there and over there, and then you get a sense of self. And that sense of self leads to individualism and individual accountability, and it leads to capitalism ultimately so so what they're trying to do is basically we'll all be wearing gray jumpsuits with shaved heads and uh well it's it's what uh what's that harrison bergeron yes harrison bergeron you're familiar oh my god yes i mean just here talking to you guys i have my iq limiter on

just so i just so I can fit in. I'm highly offended here. The thing in your ear, we actually have a program running to make sure Jack doesn't run circles around us. In fact, all of the guests on this show, everyone except for me, has a constant screech. That's your secret. You said something very interesting, Lydia, about men and women being on an equal playing field. And that metaphor made me think of a football field. And you would never put a man and a woman on a football field together because the man would dominate the woman.

Yep, that's funny. That's exactly what I was thinking of when I said that. I was like, if you put them both on a football field, they're not going to be anywhere near the same. But if you want someone to give your kids the right ideas, you're not going to ask dad to do all of it you're going to need a mom so well well more importantly i think mother and father can provide different perspectives for the kids but if your kid needs nourishment you're not going to be like suckle the teat of papa you're going to be like the dad can't do that so maybe men and women should be on equal playing field metaphorically sometimes, but sometimes not. They should be treated equally under the law.

Right. Right. And have agency. I got in trouble a long time ago for writing a satirical piece that was trying to just help women understand that they need to have agency. Feminism is about taking away women's agency. And that's why you see people criticizing the Supreme Court nominee. Right. Right. Because she had kids and babies. So she's a terrible person. She made this choice. Or when women are like, I just want to stay home with the kids.

You know what I love about Amy Coney Barrett? They're like, she's literally in a cult where she thinks she's subservient to her husband. She's a handmaiden and going to be nominated to the highest court in the country and probably one of the most powerful people on the planet. So none of it makes any sense. And the way that we know for sure that none of it makes any sense is in the Scandinavian countries where they're the most liberal and they give people the most freedom and they can choose whatever jobs they want oh yeah and yet more women choose jobs that involve people and care and men involve jobs or take jobs that involve things and thinking

it happened naturally and they're mad about it but apparently it's it's worse it's way wider yeah so apparently in the scandinavian countries the more equality they offered up an opportunity the more the gender divide expanded. I forgot about that. It makes me laugh. Whereas when you didn't. So I guess the way I see it is necessity comes first. If you're if you're in a country and a woman has to work, she will work. If a man has to work, he will work. If a man has to stay home to watch his kids, he will stay home and watch his kids. Rick Moranis famously, right, was famous actor in the 80s. And his I believe his story was that his wife, I could be wrong about this, but I believe his wife died.

And so he bowed out of Hollywood because he needed to be there for his kids. So the necessity drives first. Give someone a socialized state, like a social program. I'm not saying socialism. I'm saying social programs where their kids can have daycare and it's covered. Don't worry about it. Then what happens? If you've taken away the risk, the choice comes into play and the men choose the jobs and the things and the women choose the family

and the raising the kids. That's what we see in Scandinavia. In this house, I don't want to clean the basement at all, but I'll carry boxes in all day, man. Absolutely. Don't you make me use a broom. It's just a natural, like, deep desire.

I've just got this, like, I don't want to clean, man. I'm not good at it. I'm not attentive to the detail of the grime. But I'll lift the boxes. Yeah. I'll carry all the stuff happily because I'm building muscle. It's kind of good.

It's a good workout. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost as if we are who we are in part or if not 100% due to the hormones in our biology and the way we're built. We're all here to perform a role, right? And it's very clear what my role is. My role is to protect and provide. And it's very clear what a soft feminine woman's role is to happen in our relationship.

And neither one of them is better than the other. They're both important and necessary to make a whole. So feminism or being feminine is something very different from feminism. Yes. Yeah. The collective movement, of course, based around feminine energy. Yeah. What about men being feminine and women being masculine? I think it's all spectrum, right? It's like these are group averages. So you're definitely

going to have men with a little bit more of a feminine energy and women with a little bit more of a masculine energy. It's not clearly just going to be one or zero, but they do gather around the means outside of, you know, in their sort of bimodal distribution, I think is the term. The Kenzie scale. Yeah. That's like a sexuality scale, a one through seven. And that people, I don't know, most people are either three or four. Yeah. I'm not super familiar with that. But the thing that, the thing that bothers me the most about feminism is that it comes in with the name kind of like Antifa. It's interjecting the idea of a strong feminine. And I'm like, when you look at it, all you're getting is watered down versions of males. And that is so demeaning to women. It boils my blood.

I was like, where's what's special about that? You're just a second rate, man. I have time for that. Sorry. Well, and that's what's playing out on the national scale, whether we all, all of us know it or not. This is a need for more masculine energy and leadership and also a reestablishment of categories and boundaries, which is why we see people wanting to pull back from globalism. That's why we see people thinking social media is not healthy for them all the time. That's why we think that's why we see social distancing is a good thing in terms of in times of a pandemic. And that's why we need to have clearly defined gender identities and gender roles because boundaries matter and boundaries that you let things in when you want and let things out when you want. No boundaries means there's no people, no thing.

There's nothing. If everything is everything, then nothing is anything. That's why I say it's a chaotic and destructive force. Yeah, you got that. That's why I say it's a chaotic, destructive force. It's just, you know, at one point it was anti-globalist, now it's pro-globalist. And now it's just moving around, randomly burning down buildings and destroying things with no real purpose or plan. Well, let's talk about that. To what extent are these people just spontaneously deciding to go do this or that or burn this or attack the federal courthouse or whatever? Or to what extent are they being guided and led? To a great extent. But it's opportunistic in the sense that there are people in politics who want to channel that rage towards something they can win with.

And I think the Democrats tried using that. I think that they saw the anger. So this is why. It is what it is. Right. This is why we had all this crazy rioting and anti-war stuff during Bush. And then as soon as Obama won, they were gone because it was being manipulated and weaponized. But now the Internet is guiding it.

Now, now there's people online saying, go do this. And they just do. So now it's just randomly popping up and it's out of control. It's like it's like a flame that can't be put out. Do your thing, Twitter. Yeah, it's it's. This is one of the things I explained to my friend that, you know, she asked me, how do we stop all the crazy cancel culture stuff? And I said, like, the simple answer really is Donald Trump and the Republicans for one reason. Social media companies and media have no problem banning conservatives who get out of line,

but they're allowing the left get a line. We need to set the boundaries for the left because these companies won't do it. So if we allow them, if we we tell antifa you burning down these buildings and killing people worked for you it'll get worse if we collectively reject all of that and say no and they realize their temper tantrum doesn't work we have to be the ones saying the boundary because the companies the big tech firms aren't going to do it they're going to allow them to organize and invite inside violence also i've i would think along the lines of people thinking emotionally and not logically rather than looking at it like stopping cancel culture, because you're just saying stop cancel culture and you're putting it out there.

Say what you want it to be. Oh, yeah. Allow people to speak freely. Yeah. Freedom of speech. What I've been telling people is look for love, find love. Look for hate, find hate. It's your choice.

And I'm in the look for love camp. And that's the message I keep trying to spread. Look for hate, find hate. It's your choice. And I'm in the look for love camp. And that's the message I keep trying to spread. Look for love. Because if you look at almost every situation, you can find that. And it's just when you're constantly focused on finding the hate, when you're constantly focused on trying to find one little word that Donald Trump did or didn't say in his debate, you're going to find it. These people on the left, they right now, their whole radar system is like, got to find

hate, got to find oppression, got to find negativity. And what does that do to you on the inside? It rots you. It rots you. And maybe it comes from the inside. You're rotten already. I don't know. But it's a cycle.

This is why I was saying like last week, jokingly, that, you know, in 30 years, you could make a funny little like short film where someone finds the old ruins of the New York Times building and it's like decrepit looking and like windows are busted out and they go inside their flashlight and they're all scared. And then they see a journalist and they're wearing a suit. It's all ripped up and tattered and their hair is like half fallen out and they've got missing teeth and like Donald Trump. And they like like zombies and they latch on and they're like, say something offensive. And then you do this art writing about it franticallyantically like desperate to just find that rage and complain about something and that's that's the future i envision for these people well unless they collapse and it's how are we going to eradicate that that's that's going to happen it's going to keep going

the like zombified journalists looking for you know just to write about anything when you're describing this scene in my mind i'm seeing seeing the animation from early Scooby-Doo cartoons. You know what I mean? Like that zombie guy in a suit with his tattered suit and the glasses. Yeah. Donald Trump is bad. It's kind of like, how would you eradicate a barren field?

You would plant trees. Or you'd place it with something else. I don't know that Antifa, this is necessarily a barren field, you would plant trees. Or replace it with something else. I don't know that Antifa, this is necessarily a barren field. It could be a raging fire that you have to put out before you plant the trees. But eventually, you're going to have to put something new. No, this is an excellent point. This is an excellent point. It's time to build.

We need builders. This ties in with masculine energy. We need to build things, build good things. Build an ark. Maybe. Maybe so, yes. Maybe. Maybe so, yes. Maybe. I mean, you guys are definitely building the ark here.

I saw it with the green beans and the apple cider vinegar. The beans that last for 30 years. Yes. But I'm not the only one talking about this. That's Ian, by the way. I didn't buy those. I'm going to town. I saw it.

There's like 94 cases of green beans. It's true. I'm just getting started. That's not that many. Well, at least. We're building a boat out of green beans. I'm just getting started. That's not that many. Well, at least. We're building a boat out of green beans. At least. But no, there's people in the tech world and there's people in other industries that are

identifying clearly that this is the time to build. And it's these people that are the ones who are focused on hate all the time. They never build anything. Right. They don't build. They tear down. And if you are a builder, you don't have time for hate because you're too busy building your thing.

Correct. So we need builders. And who, what kind of energy builds things? I don't know. Well. Feminine. How about we go to Super Chats? Oh, yeah.

Let's do it. Let's get some orange ones. You want to shout out your social media before we get started? Yes. Yes. Jack Murphy Live on Twitter, jackmurphylive.com. And if you like what I'm talking about, masculinity, masculine energy, I have an all men's network, a national network with hundreds of men. And we share three common values, masculinity, sovereignty, and brotherhood. And we work

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That's love as well. That's love for sure. Well, give Jack love too. That's right. All right, let's read some of these. Zachariah says, did anyone else see the pics of the earpiece Biden was using? Did you see anything like that? I saw something that tried to say this was that, whatever. He I mean, in his sleeve. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, wouldn't they all

go up there with mics just in case they can't hear Donald Trump and they can hear the producers or whatever? I mean, isn't that you know, it's really funny about this thing where so people are claiming that Joe Biden was wearing a wire because he like fiddles with his, you know, lapel. And then you see a black line squiggle down a shirt. The funny thing is, I have no idea what it was. Yet Facebook has determined it was the crease of his shirt. How? I have no idea because I don't know what it was either. So I'm like, how can you falsify this claim when you're just speculating the same? Well, I think it was just a crease in his shirt. How do you know? Were you there? No. Well, then get your fact check off Facebook, dude. It's the stupidest thing ever those guys

the social media twitter all them trying to be the arbiters of fact oh yeah is a bad road oh yeah oh yeah you'll see justin o'toole says did the couple not decline to pursue charges hence why trespassing charges were dropped i think this will help them in fighting their own charges that's a reference to the mccloskey's i believe so they're not charging the people who trespass you crayson says as a red coat american politics is my favorite reality tv show however trump win or lose your country will need to address and resolve the fact that one of your political parties is openly corrupt and outright evil yep yeah at least one at least one both that's the whole point yeah they're all corrupt they're all in bed with the corporations in the military none of them have your best interest at heart that's why we elected

donald trump to go after the uniparty yep dip-dop doopity says i think you should have chris raygun or his co-host colin moriarty on the show i know your relationship has been tense but he's a true liberal the co-host of the podcast is a conservative, and Chris has been labeled a conservative because of association by mainstream press. I think he would make for some interesting dialogue on both of your perspectives on Trump. So Chris said something on Twitter like that politics is very personality driven. And so he thinks Trump could, you know, I'll try to keep family friendly, do something very disgusting to an animal and then air it on a children's TV program. And his supporters would find the backwoods version of Yas Queen to yell. And my response was Donald Trump could overpay his taxes

by millions and they would find a way to claim he paid no taxes. And then he responded with record time. I'm assuming he was trying to imply that i was the person just blindly and zealously defending trump when my actual point which i responded was the people who claim only trump people are like this and ignore the fact that they literally do the exact same thing are blind to what's really going on that was my point yeah and of course none of them want to acknowledge it because they're the exact same yeah they're pointing the finger at the mirror and going yeah you're a fascist and it's like it's you dude it's that spider-man right exactly yeah spider-man cult says why are dems so freaking evil and why won't youtube let me put the full name

of dems in this shit oh that's weird that is weird why are they so evil demons democrats uh collectives it's that it's that it's that collective mindset group think that's dangerous you know not the individuals are usually pretty cool if you get them in a room one on one yeah i agree all right we got one here from the old days bahika if the world needs to get on the progressive path trump needs to win well i hope americans understand and choose him with a landslide showing the world an affirmative narrative of progressiveness. Trump for USA. I'm not sure I follow completely.

He's talking about like really being progressive. Oh, I see. V City says, did you see the article from the Inquirer out of Philly that memory sticks and a computer that memory sticks in a computer used to program voting machines were stolen from an elections warehouse? They said the laptop had been remotely disabled, but didn't mention the memory sticks. Is that what Trump was talking about? Bad things happen in Philadelphia? Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Double check it. The gang does the election. Right, seriously. Like, literally. It's the mafia. Lior says, I haven't lived in California for 10 years, and my parents got mail-in ballot for me today.

But please tell me how this won't be a rigged election. It's gonna be rigged. It is rigged. Political Podit says,ucker is being critical of trump at the moment well because tucker is a man of principle yeah he really is leonidas says i got a poll call tonight when they asked who i would vote for i said i'll take the bully yeah now they're gonna write that must mean biden yeah bully bully such as the b b Jonathan says, Hey, Timcast IRL crew. Mostly Sour Patch Lids. I was polled today for the first time ever. It was definitely

skewed towards a Dem candidate here in GA with very specific questions about him. Have any of you ever been polled? Love the show. Trump 2020. I've done some of that phone polling. I did some of the phone polling. We called people and we read them weighted questions about different candidates. And I remember reading through and I was like, this is how it works. I see how the polling works now. And I remember reading through and I was like, this is how it works.

I see how the polling works now. It all makes sense. Donald Trump recently threw a bag of puppies, hypothetically, into a burning building. Do you support this? So, okay, so you don't support Trump. Okay, got it. They'll ask you very specific questions. Donald Trump recently did this, and I'll tell you something really, really bad.

Do you support him? Wow. You were talking about sales techniques before. Yeah, that's one priming. Right. Yeah. Who writes the polls? That's a big deal.

That makes all the world. So CNN. But many of these polls, they show you the questions. That's the point. You can look at what the question was. And most of the polls that are tracking Trump are on the level. They'll say something like out of the out of the prominent candidates today, who would you choose? And then

people get like, you know, five or two choices. Are there polls that are like, 57% of the polls say that this is happening, but 43% say, so it's like a poll about polls. Have they gone that meta yet? I don't know. Maybe. I guess that wouldn't be a poll. That would just be a statistic.

A poll about polling. We poll pollsters. Jason Siegel says, glad to support your work, Tim. Thanks for everything you do. Appreciate it. Akapat says, Obama's depravity is criminally underrated. The pass he gets on everything is sick. Critical race theory politics came to mainstream, turbocharged by him in 14 with Ferguson. Conservatives were ridiculed for their alarm as it crept in.

Yep. Wait, wait. It's not just Obama. It's Biden. Let's never forget. Joe Biden is thept in. Yep. Wait, wait. It's not just Obama. It's Biden. Let's never forget Joe Biden is the king of rape culture. Okay. He was the one who decided. No, he is the one who got baited by the fake one and four rape stats.

And then it was Biden that pushed the title nine reform that changed the face of all the universities, put men on the defensive, gave the rights to the accuser, and gave weight to this bull crap notion that a quarter of every girl that goes to college gets raped. That's Joe Biden. Joe Biden did that. And the first thing he's going to do, if he gets elected,

is roll back all of the reforms and go back to rape culture and go back to persecuting. And he allegedly raped that girl that worked for him. Tara Reid pushed her up against the wall and just while she was working for him. That's as deep as I'm going to go. But that's right. The guy.

Yeah. I mean, she was like, I don't know. And her mom, her mom called in CNN and said, my daughter, this happened. And yep, that was memory hold gone. Yep. Not Joe Biden. Media loves him. Democrats do no wrong.

We got one for you. Eduardo says, Jack Murphy is on the money when it comes to South America. They live under the Sistema de Costas Colonial, where whites or people close to white are at the top

and blacks and dark-skinned mixed are at the bottom. Indeed. They're called peninsulares. So have you been to Brazil? I have not been to Brazil. I've been to Ecuador. I've been to Mexico.

I've been to Argentina. I have been to Peru. I've been to Ecuador. I've been to Mexico. I've been to Argentina. I have been to Peru. I've been on the Caribbean, Puerto Rico, et cetera. So I've been to Brazil several times. And I actually have a couple of friends down there, people I know. Some are Brazilian. And this one guy told me that racism is really funny in Brazil because it's very different to how it works in America. He said that basically everybody is trying to have their kids be whiter

and whiter and they they view it as a privilege and it's a good thing and so often you'll get a circumstance where two people who are not particularly white will accuse each other of not being white while they brag that they are and he was like it's really funny you'll see like you like like two guys who are like not not like you know black or anything but they're very dark skin pointing at each other screaming about how they're not really white, and it's a really weird kind of racism that exists in Brazil. Yeah, Brazil is slightly different than the rest of Latin America because they have a big Afro community from slave trade and stuff, and so there was a lot of miscegenation and

intermarriage and interracial relationships there. Brazil is its own particular case, but he's spot on with, they're called peninsulares. Why? Because they're from the Iberian Peninsula, Spain and Portugal. And these are the people at the top of the caste system. And these are the people that send their kids to Georgetown University and whatever in the United States. And so to think that they're just going to put themselves in some group of disaffected

people of color category when for centuries they've been fighting to say that they're white is just counter and it's just facts wrong. Interesting. Yeah. people of color category when for centuries they've been fighting to say that they're white is just counter and you know there's just facts wrong interesting yeah eric a says ibram x kendy got paid 240 000 by fairfax county virginia for speeches and k through 12 history books critical race theory thrives in the shadows from a lack of understanding once people understand exactly what it is the ideology uh will wither and fade. Part of the problem with critical race theory is there is no core. So if you keep asking questions and digging and digging, there is nothing to get down to to really attack. But I'm telling you,

there are people, my inbox is filled with people from different jurisdictions around the country appalled at what is happening in their schools with critical race theory. Parents or anybody who's out there, look out for these things called courageous conversations. They just say, oh, we're just going to have a conversation with the students. We're just going to use this courageous conversations map. But in the map, it says you have to examine your whiteness, be uncomfortable, work towards being anti-racist. And of course, the ultimate anti-racist does what? Yields positions of power to people of color watch out courageous conversations parents please and if you have

anybody who has got any concerns or you see it in your school please contact me i'm in communication with other journalists and other people that are working on this issue especially christopher rufo he was just on my podcast recently he's doing doing, he's the one that, that got this to Trump called Trump out. Trump acknowledged him, called him, sending him the pen that they signed the executive order with. Wow. Like,

yeah, like a big deal. And so we're fighting and we're, we're, you know, trying to do something about it. Check out my podcast with Christopher Rufo. Super cool.

What's your, what's your Jack Murphy podcast? Jack Murphy live. Let's see. Uh, Solwyn says i'm a history major did my senior project on fascism there is no academic definition of fascism so it's hard to talk about but it's characterized by centrality of state the state is the only solution to societal

problems interesting power nathan rollin says look into carlin borisenko and unsafe space on youtube these are former leftists with a lot of knowledge on how this critical race theory garbage has infiltrated our schools and how long it's been around she and i have worked she and i have actually worked with some of the same people in education i was in education for many years back on that fascism one uh joan goldberg he's kind of garbage now but like liberal fascism is a fantastic book if you want to actually really read about it. Very cool. Right on Safe Space was actually on. Yeah. Yeah.

She was here. There's an episode of IRL with Carrie. Yeah. She's cool. Royal Raptor says, man, I just wanted to play video games and feminists invade the space and have corrupted the industry. Now I am here at Timcast IRL and heavily involved in politics. That's right.

They wanted that, though. They want people to get political. They want because they want to create enemies. Then they wanted that, though. They want people to get political. They want, because they want to create enemies. Then they can say, look at the evil men, they're attacking us. So one of the things the feminists love doing on Twitter, so I, this is funny, going back to like Occupy, I was friends

with a lot of these feminists. Whenever they would get a troll, they would retweet them. And I would be like, why are, this person is insulting you, why would you retweet it? Because I am not going to back down. I'm like, no, you're making it worse. They're like, well because i'm not going to back down i'm like no you're making it worse they're like well i'm not going to stay silent and i'm like no you're making it worse on purpose so you can claim that you're a victim being attacked by evil men to justify your political position yep and that's exactly what they were doing gamergate monumental monumental that was like the big the first big war battle in the war

yep social media dan fitzpatrick says, your impression of the crying kid reminds me exactly of Louis CK. Louis CK's joke about the kid he calls Jezanthippus and his weak mother apologizing. Oh, my goodness. Tim's impressions have been on fire tonight. Yes. I've been enjoying this. Which was the mom.

All of them. Yeah. All of them. Dude, you've you've like busted out like 10 different voices. Yeah. You really have. Like who? I know. I know that i did the mom thing you did

moms you did like the that's actually from putin you did she you did biden i don't know what you did them imagining they're like some national you know big global national security you know negotiation yeah you you really i didn't know if this is a new thing dude like you've got character no i got character you got character the the The mom thing actually is I'm imitating Brandon DeCamillo from CKY when he liked this prank where he drove up to a fast food restaurant and he was like, the kids are screaming in my ears. And that's the voice I'm doing. I'm ripping him off.

Feels great. Feels great right here. Yep. High pitch. Really high pitch. Wonderful pitch we get the trouble down over here yeah yeah yeah maybe maybe maybe i'll do some uh you know freedom tunes freedom tunes yeah freedom tunes have you seen it yeah yeah we we had him on a couple times we were talking about potential voices we can do i don't want to give away some of the jokes but there was

like a really really funny joke we had where like we were Seamus and I were talking and then we made a Lord of the Rings joke that would work really, really well for modern politics. And I don't want to give it away because he might end up doing it. It's going to be amazing. But it requires doing some pretty good voices. Yeah. Acapot says true believer. Woke people say they want to end oppression. But what they want more than that is revenge.

Human hearts are pretty sick. Trusting our hearts can be bad. Noble intentions aren't always noble. Look at its fruit. Yep, that's what Christianity says. We were saying earlier that you suffer vengeance as well. Yeah, well, we were talking

about the death penalty. And I was like, I'm a little bit vindictive. And I think there are things that you can do that definitely deserve a closing of the book. But there's too much room for error there's too much human i think i need to calm my vengeance you know you know you know we were having this conversation and i was like

i think one of the problems is actually inefficiency you know when it comes to that when it comes to death row yes how much we put 10 years taxpayer dollars what if we just empowered the police to be the judge at the same time? Then they witness it. And then, you know, they can choose to make that call for the death penalty on the spot. Maybe we'll give them red helmets and jetpacks and, you know, special weapons, flying cars. And do you know Judge Dredd? I do not know Judge Dredd.

I'm so sorry. That was like the general concept. They were like Stallone. Yeah. Are we going to be talking about magic next? OK. Judge Dredd. Oh, now you do. I'm so sorry. That was like the general concept. They were like... Sylvester Stallone. Yeah, yeah. Are we going to be talking about magic next? Okay. No, Judge Dredd, dude.

This is like sci-fi futuristic dystopia. It was basically like... It's actually an interesting thought. Think about it. A cop arrests somebody, makes a claim to a judge, and then the judge makes a determination or a jury. But wouldn't it be easier if the judge was the witness? I guess the problem is you want

to separate the process so the cop has to prove it right and that was right of course of course i'm i'm that that was the point of judge dread i suppose they were like it's easier because there was so much crime to just give the judges guns and training and have them go out and execute people of their at their own discretion something that's something like that i don't know you know then carl urban did the new version. That was really cool. I didn't see it. Yeah, it was good.

I don't think it was a great movie or anything. I don't think they're going to remake that one with a strong feminine lead. Oh, gosh. I don't think so. Too bad. Just like killing people. BLM is going to be coming out.

Did you see Mad Max? Was it Thunder Road? Is that the new one? Yes, that was tremendous. Great female lead. That one was pretty good, yeah. Epic. Very true.

Superhero female lead character. It can be done. Wonder Woman is probably the best. Yes. Dude, she was tremendous. Great female lead. That one was pretty good, yeah. Epic superhero female lead character. It can be done. Wonder Woman is probably the best. Yes. Dude, she was my favorite as a kid. No, no, but the- Literally. Have you seen the movie, Wonder Woman?

No. I have not. You should see it because it's really well done in terms of- So Wonder Woman believes- Oh, wait, wait, wait. With the backstory and the island with all the women. Oh, yeah. I did see that.

That was very good, actually. And it was interesting because Wonder Woman was being very motherly, wanting to protect everybody from the chaos and the war, thinking she was idealist. And then Chris Pine's character was a realist. The war is an inevitability. It's going to happen. Sometimes people are bad.

I thought it was fantastic. It was really well done. She was strong. She was physically strong. She was a fighter. But it was Gal Gadot, man. Yeah, she is a very attractive woman cringy in real life apparently oh man that's so is that a mad video don't ruin

don't ruin it here we go so john the great says the debate of paul ryan and joe biden in 2012 was equally disruptive ryan was composed by enrolled eyes scoffed spoke loudly under his breath interrupted out of time and angered ryan for being so disruptive trump beat him at his own game interesting smackdown well i don't remember that for the most part it's been a long time the wiry says hello from ma tim i was wondering if i could shout out a charity share tanzania ran by john saint julian it's a charity that takes care of disabled and able-bodied homeless african children you should have the guy who runs it on the show. Very cool. Well, shout out.

Yeah. Let's see. Moto A says, Tim for President 2024. US, us, make America great again. If anyone ever came to me and like I received papers where I said I had to serve like in some kind of public office, I'd be like, just give me a minute. Let me get my

coat and then I would jump out the window and i'd run as fast as possible to be gone people ask me all the time you know when are you going to run for school board when you're going to run for governor when are you going to run for president people ask me that all the time well uh i it's an honor to be considered but uh no thank you like no thank you and that's something we need to think about, right? Like, what it takes to become president is unhealthy. Yeah. Yeah. I think.

Definitely. Like, it selects for unhealthy people. Yep. I mean, Trump was perfect for it. Yeah. But think about it. All of the things you need to do to win, he loves it. George Washington didn't campaign to be president.

He quit. Hell, even Jefferson Davis, the president of the Confederacy, he didn't even run. They just named him. And one day he was like, crap, I'm the president of the Confederacy. he didn't even run they just named him and one day he was like crap i'm the president i don't like the position it's too much power for one guy yeah i disagree it wasn't supposed to be like that yeah it was not meant to disagree yeah i think the problem we have now is that it's grown too powerful but i like the idea of how the u.s government was set up as brilliant three different branches you've got the direct representation of the people you've

got the council of elders and you've got the executive representation of the people, you've got the council of elders, and you've got the executive. So you don't have just one oppressive system. You've got three. But you've got an executive board, though. You've got a board of executives. But you can't... But then you get crushed in war. Well, then the president of the board could take control if there was a war.

That's literally what we have. No, we have one guy dictating everything. No, no, no, no, no, no. When you have a committee and then you enact you know dictate like emperor powers to the one person they never give the powers up and it creates a a constitutional crisis in terms of what your government's supposed to be we have clearly defined branches they have rules the founding fathers were very very clever i think maybe they they couldn't have foreseen rapid information technology no it doesn't it doesn't necessarily change what our rights are but it has changed I think maybe they couldn't have foreseen rapid information technology. No. It doesn't necessarily change what our rights are, but it does change how everything functions.

And it's becoming very chaotic. Because one issue is that we don't have free speech, but our public discourse is owned now on platforms by essentially oligarchs. They can determine who's allowed to speak and who isn't. Thus, politics is totally dominated. That is freaking crazy. I censor myself on this show. Like, I you have fully every day yeah i mean i can't don't swear i don't talk about like the deep well you can swear business of the globe you can but it'll dude i've been swallowing every single one no no no no no no no no no no no no the video though because exactly exactly company owns the platform okay good but it was worth it

to be fair to be fair traditionally people didn't swear because they tried to keep things professional. Yeah. But I never tell people they can't swear. I always say, just keep in mind, YouTube will smack the video into the gutter and you'll never see it. So that's a problem. Do you want to know the technology that I think is the most democratic and the freest?

Is RSS. Yeah. RSS. That's how i put my podcast out that's how almost everybody's podcasts go out and there's no one censoring it yeah rss you just subscribe to your rss stream and boom this is this is what twitter needs to be so are you familiar with the fediverse the fediverse yeah like the cheese no no what is that is that a thing oh it will be found the federated universe so mines is federating right yeah mines.com did they do it yet i'm on my i'm on mines now thanks imagine this imagine this imagine if instead of signing up for twitter you created your own server and then linked it to the the fediverse like basically you're instead instead

of at jack murphy it would be at it would would be, your handle would be jack at jackmurphy.com. Right. And so when people load up their browser, they would just say, they would type in search jack at jackmurphy.com, follow. And then it's basically inverted email. Yeah. Instead of, you know, you sending it to one person, you post it, it goes to, it gets sent to everyone immediately. Yeah. Instead of you sending it to one person, you post it. It gets sent to everyone immediately. So that's what – basically what would happen is if people – you wouldn't have to make your own. There could be companies that would make a federated platform where you can just sign up.

That's really easy. I think Twitch is something like this. Mastodon was one of the big ones, but they're super SJW. So they panicked when Gab federated and they were like – and they tried blocking it and all that stuff. You're unbannable if you have your own website and you say follow me my handle is you know jack at jack murphy.com jack murphy live jack murphy live then nobody could ban you yeah because you own the server and you're they're basically just subscribing to what you're posting to your server to appear in their feed similar to what rss is exactly but we're gonna need to decentralize

the uh what are they the hosts like godaddy what are those things oh definitely yeah what are those uh um dns servers no no no not dns it's um uh yeah your web your host basically yeah your web host web host because those are still centralized registrar registrar there's like nine of them or something right now and some small number and they can ban you yeah and they've done it and google has even seized domains of you know messed up of what was it daily stormer i think it was because they were like you know uber trolls and like white national store google i am on google's blacklist so a few months ago i was doing a name search on myself just to check see what's out there and uh my own website jack murphy live.com did not appear in the Jack Murphy Live results.

Didn't appear. Nowhere. Wow. And so I got my tech guy on it, and he starts looking at it. And as we're looking at it, he does another search. It all comes back. Okay? And it was the same day that The Federalist and Breitbart and all these other companies were like, where are our search results?

And at the same time, we all discovered that our stuff would have been see i said stuff there had been taken off and then they just flipped the switch and then it was back my two channels timcast and timcast news cannot be they cannot be found on google you can't google search them isn't that funny and it's this channel can yeah youtube so here's what's really funny i can take one I post a video every day at 4 p.m. YouTube.com slash Timcast. You take the title of the video and paste it. And guess what comes up? Facebook.

Because I post on Facebook. On Google, it won't show you my channels. They're completely removed. Timcast IRL, however, because it's actually made this year, not blacklisted. You want to hear something funny? Do you remember growing up? I don't know if you're young enough for this, but Microsoft and PC dominated everything, right? And to have Macintosh, Apple was like to be the outsider. All right. Now, guess what? I like to use Bing. Bing gives me the best results and it seems to be unbiased. And now how is it that Microsoft

is actually giving me the free data and liberty that i want it's a weird sort of it's an inversion it is it's all inverted i was using duck duck go yeah you've used that one yeah that works i hear it's free and they don't track you yeah as far as i know i don't know someone's probably tracking you using a vpn or something brave too well there's the there's the browser and then there's the search engine in the browser. So I use Brave Browser and then DuckDuckGo is a good search engine. Smart. Oh, here we go. Doobie McNasty says, this is one of the best conversations I've ever had the privilege

to listen to. Thanks, y'all. Cool, yeah. Amazing. Appreciate it. Stay tuned, man. Let's see. Roger That Trucker says, it's all to stop anyone outside of politics. If you interfere with us, we will make your life hell. Indeed. Oogie Boogie says, we will make your life hell. Indeed. Oogie Boogie says,

Love it. The female Judge Dredd was Captain Marvel in the Civil War II comics. Straight minority reporting people in it. This is a reason people hate Carol Danvers. That comic series is ground zero. Interesting. Booker DeWitt says, I miss your conversations with Lydia. She is very level and smart.

Thanks. Booker catch. Do you guys level and smart. Thanks. Booker catch. Do you guys know that reference? Booker catch. The person who commented knows that reference. Brian, it's Bioshock Infinity. I was going to say, super chat and you get an inside joke with Tim. Absolutely.

Brian O'Connor says, Tim, running away from a public role for St. Ambrose, the teacher of St. Augustine, he ran, was barricaded, and barricaded himself in his buddy's house, and was still made bishop. Could you imagine? You're president. Get over here. No, I don't want to be president. Do you know what demarchy is?

It's like jury duty, but for politics. Oh, okay. Like, one day, you'll get a letter in the mail, and it'll be like, I got Congress duty. That's what I would feel like. Oh, okay. the will of the people in that they're not going to cut deals for themselves because they're not there for that long. There's no benefits. So if they're like, we're going to make it so that this corporation gets a direct benefit that hurts people and allows them to dump waste, they're going to be like, I'm not doing that. The negative is it just becomes tyranny of the majority because everyone's scared about what the mob will do to them if they go against the mob.

So interesting concept. Don't know if it would work. All right, let's see. Andy S says, if Biden thinks Antifa is only idea, an idea, does that mean he blames Black Lives Matter for the rioting and the violence? If Antifa is fake, then only Black Lives supporters are out. That's interesting. You know, they think it's the right wing Nazi white supremacist. By the way, white supremacy, just an idea.

Yes. It's not an organization. In fact, in fact, it's actually an accurate, like an idea. Mm-hmm. Yes. It's not an organization. That's true. In fact, it's actually an accurate statement. Technically correct. White supremacy is an idea. It is not an organization. Ergo, there's nothing you can do about it. I mean, yeah.

Biden said so. Yep. And that's why when they're like, Antifa doesn't exist, it's like, right. But it's an authoritarian sect, you know, solute-based group of people. I have a handbook that says Antifa handbook. I was doxxed by a woman who called herself the leader of the D.C. Antifa cell flying a flag that says Antifa on a street painted with Black Lives Matter with a Black Lives Matter banner hanging from the buildings as they bang war drums and go to war. And you're going to tell me it's not real. There's a handbook, dude.

And so the craziest thing about that is when I talk to my friends in the suburbs and they're like, the riots are freaking me out. And Joe Biden says it's not real. I can't imagine how many like, you know, millennial middle aged people saw that went. What? You kidding me? It's right outside. Because they went to the suburbs, man. The riots did.

And I remember when they were like, the Antifa is not coming to the suburbs. Trump is lying. And then they did. What do you think about this? In 2015, 2016, there was the, what do you call them? Silent Trump voter, right? Secret Trump voters. Secret Trump voter.

Do you think the circumstances in 2020 would lead there to be more or greater or fewer secret Trump voters? Greater. Greater. Yeah. Boom. So who cares if the polls say what they are? Add three points. It's true.

But I'll tell you what, man. Don't get complacent. Yeah. I'm working every day, Ted. They are dumping dump trucks full of caltrops before you in the polling station, and you better be prepared to walk through covered with your bloody feet if you really want to make sure this happens, because they're cheating, bro. I'm just mailing in my six ballots to four different jurisdictions.

Don't even joke about it. Sorry. But that's what's going to happen we've already saw what with project veritas and the ilhan omar stuff and all that the dude bragging about collecting ballots and they're blank and then paying people and all that stuff would you suggest people vote in person i don't know why not yeah of course i'm just saying i just saying I don't know what's going to work. Oh, I think 100% Trump voters get out, go to the polls, forget the mail-in absentee crap, go down, pull the trigger in, or sorry, pull the lever in the voting booth and make sure it counts and make sure it's there and make sure your chat is hanging the right way and make sure you get everything all lined up and make sure it's all done and proper and you get it done go to the polls do not send the men go to the polls do it they're gonna find magic ballots oh yeah we're gonna find them all excited they're telling us what's gonna happen trump's gonna landslide on election night and then a week later biden wins that'll be months okay so let's let's let's really talk about that what is the margin of

error on election night small enough if trump wins small enough that will lead to an ongoing litigation back 80 million 80 million to 80 million mail-in ballots are expected which means unless trump wins with a greater gap than that or at least half of that 40 million but a lot of them got mailed out three weeks ago the the issue is there's no reasonable number there's none if trump wins with 10 point lead they're going to be like yeah but that makes sense because 40 million democrats have just mailed their ballots and we got to wait a week 60 what's 120 some million people voted last time what was it uh let's see it's like 63 to 60 128 or something yeah something like that so the the tally this year is going to be like 350 million

on on uh it depends what what needs to happen is if trump wins 65 million votes on election night and joe biden gets, there's no way Joe Biden can win. Right. But the interesting thing is Nate Silver said that Joe Biden needs to win on election night by 5% or more. Otherwise, he could still lose or he I'm sorry, his polling average needs to be higher than 5%.

I don't know. I don't know what we can expect. You know, it's incredible to me that we've spent the last two years talking about this stuff. Like, this is what people are obsessed with in the world today is what's going to happen in two years. And it's going to go on for two more years. And then people are going to be talking about it again for two years straight. TV shows are built around it. Bucket.

Markets of economy are built around just this one thing. You said bucket, right? I said bucket. I heard bucket, yeah. We're good. The bucket. Something's wrong that this is such a big deal. Dude, dude, dude, dude.

Trump won because people hated Hillary, because people wanted change, because people hated the establishment. And a lot of people like what Trump was doing. And they're desperate. So they're pulling out every stop dude they're just screaming and hitting every button and banging and just like everything they got is coming after trump right now every fake story i love it i cover this one

of my segments their name a name a voting demographic elderly oh trump insulted them uh christians trump insulted them soldiers trump insulted them latinos black voters all of them trump insulted every single one women trump insulted them there's a story for every single one wait did he insult tall handsome white guys that are 44 years old no he's not he's about to i'm good i'm still voting for trump i'm just imagining check this out i'm imagining like there's like trump is sitting in a room with cigar and he goes so uh the soldiers? Losers. Christians? Suckers.

Yeah. Yeah. Where did that come from that he called the— Women? Losers. Losers. Oh, what was the story? He's just sitting there rattling off a list like, they're losers, they're losers. Is he looking at pictures of voters?

Losers, losers. It's ridiculous. It's not happening. Yeah. Trump is not sitting around just complaining about all these different groups all the time. I think the genesis of the criticism of the military was in him saying that there's all these generals just waiting to get a payday from the defense contractors and that's all they want to do. And then they jumped on him for that. I think it was Mike Cernovich tweeted out like 50 screen caps of all these generals who the first thing they did was go to the defense contractors and take very fat, big contracts and tons of money. It's an actual true thing. Look, look, Trump has been at war with the generals, right?

The generals wanted to go to war. The generals want to be in Afghanistan. The generals want to continue dropping bombs. He is he is in tandem with the soldiers he is he is with the soldiers and they're together against the generals who want this war for money and for whatever reason because they bomb it's what they know how to do yeah right right so there is legitimate criticism to be ahead of the military leadership in some in some places and we saw him go through baddest we saw him go through mcmaster and we saw there was uh one other uh and then even even though he's

not military but uh um gosh i can't remember the the national security guy bolden that they came in and got rid of all they want they all want to go to war and he didn't and that's why they can't even promote people just replace them find some like you know younger excited actual you know well he tried he brought one of the most exciting and and innovative generals into the national security council mike flynn that's right and because mike flynn represented such a threat to the military establishment an ongoing perpetual war and he understands fourth generation war and understands the conflict we're in.

They had to get rid of him. He knew too much. Flynn knew too much and they're still doing it. And you can't, I would advise Trump to be careful with like firing or demoting generals because that's when the military would stage a coup. Yeah. You gotta have support of the troops.

You gotta be careful not to anger the oligarchy of the military they're trying to stop him from making those moves but well we are uh a little bit over but i think we'll uh you know we're gonna wind up so you want to you want to shout out your your your socials and your show and stuff like i would love to do that jack murphy live on twitter following follow me there jack murphy live on youtube but not all my podcasts and video content there as well subscribe to the podcast uh i've got great guests coming up uh alexander dugan coming up he was an advisor to uh putin wow i have had recently had on michael anton who was also on national security council and an advisor to trump darren beattie same i've had him on as well so those are the kind of guests we've got coming up on jack murphy live uh jack murphy live.com his website liminal hyphen order is the group masculinity sovereignty

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i feel like i'm contributing to the cause right on yeah and you can follow at sour patch lids she's blowing up you're like in the 40 50 thousands now on twitter i'm watching you i'm getting close i'm about to 45K. There you go. I don't know why people follow me. That's Sour Patch L-Y-D-S. Correct. Yeah, so we'll be back tomorrow. You know, we used to announce the guests, but then we had like two cancellations.

And I'm like, that's so disappointing for people. I can't do that. So we have top secret guests coming, more than one. Ooh, yes. So it should be fun. We can do that thing on election night. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That will definitely do. But should we hold off on announcing the plan? No, we should be fun. We can do that thing on election night. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That will definitely do. But should we hold off on announcing the plan? No, we should tease it.

Yeah, well, no, no, no. I mean, we have some people in mind for who we want to come, but we're going to do an election night live show. Yes. And we're going to make jokes and probably eat nachos or something. Drink a lot. We're going to cheer or cry or whatever. It's going to be in live. No, no, no.

No matter what happens, I'm laughing. All right, all right. If Biden wins, I'm going to laugh. That's my thing. Hakuna Matata, right? Is that what it means? No worries. No worries. Look, if Joe Biden wins, I am going to laugh at the absurdity of this country that is willing to go back.

Try and reignite this nostalgic desperation by choosing the senile crackpot crony that is Joe Biden. That'll just be funny to me. I love it. That'll be funny to me. Okay, okay, okay. You got it.

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