Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #145 - TRUMP LIVES! POTUS Leaves Hospital As Outraged Journalists Shake Fists, Lauren Chen Joins

Episode Date: October 6, 2020

Tim, Ian, Lydia, and guest Lauren Chen (@TheLaurenChen on Twitter, Pseudo-Intellectual on YouTube) discuss Trump leaving the hospital and the media's meltdowns, Trump's handling of Covid, conspiracy theorists on the left and right, a looming civil war (from a Canadian perspective, eh), Prince Harry's woke racism, and the ill effects of a direct democracy.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Much to the dismay of many resistance members and journalists, the president is fine. He lives. And he calmly walked out of Walter Reed and waved to his adoring fans as outraged journalists shook their fists. They were so angry. I mean, look, I know I'm joking about this, but how ridiculous was it that you simultaneously had resistance activists saying that Trump was faking it. You had Joy Reid on MSNBC. Trump's faking it. He's not really sick. You had Linda Sarsour saying somebody's trying to get out of the debates. But then you had people saying like, I don't know, man, Trump's on his deathbed. He's getting dexamethasone. This is the end. And then Trump just like walks out like, I'm OK. It's, you know, it's a mild, mild symptoms. I'm totally fine. And that was

to be expected. All these conspiracy theories. Now they're really angry that Trump's leaving because they're like, he's contagious. Don't let him leave. And the doctors are like, but he doesn't need to be in the hospital. Just absolutely ridiculous. So we're gonna talk a bit about this. And welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast. Hopefully everything's going well. We had some weird smoke alarm thing going off nonstop just before we started. That's fun. But we're hanging out with a very special guest. First, of course, you know Ian Crossland. Hi.

He's always – you're not the special guest, Ian. You're just a dude. Sour Patch Lids is, of course, producing. Yes, I am the corner. And we're here with Lauren Chen. Thank you so much for having me. It's awesome to be here. I watch the show all the time.

Oh, you do? Yeah, I do. Well, you have your own show. Yeah, I do. But I get ready with you guys in the morning. Oh, you do? Yeah, I do. Well, you have your own show. Yeah, I do. But like I get ready with you guys in the morning. Oh, yeah. Awesome. Always have something to watch because you produce content like a madman.

Yeah, I do like four hours of content per day. Yeah, I don't know. I don't have that many opinions. I just can't talk that much. I admire it. Well, you know, if I'm reading a story, I'll have an opinion, you know, while I'm going through it. You know what I mean?

So I'll be like, oh, look at this. Like Trump, you know, and they're saying Trump is dying. And then I'll read it and I'll be like, wait a minute. They just said Trump was faking it. So which one is it? So, you know, yeah. Anyway, thanks for hanging out, everybody. Smash the like button.

We're going to talk. We got we got this breaking news. Donald Trump is leaving the hospital, so we're going to get right into it. But make sure you subscribe. Hit the like button. Hit the notification bell. And let's just jump to the first story that will kick off the general conversation. From the Daily Mail, Donald Trump leaves Walter Reed after three nights battling COVID and

takes off his mask as soon as he lands the White House, where he will take more experimental drugs. I love how they phrase this. Sounds like fun. And promises to be back on the campaign trail soon. So we have some bullet points. Trump arrived back at the White House Monday night, taking off his face mask to enter the building. I'm sure the journalists are screaming, oh no, now he's getting people sick. The president left Walter Reed after spending three nights.

He walked out at 640, just about what he expected. At 645, the helicopter took off and it landed at 655. Marine One crew will have to isolate for 14 days and the helicopter will have to be deep cleaned. The 74-year-old president tweeted on Monday afternoon that he was feeling better than I did 20 years ago. His treatment, yeah, well, he's hopped up on goofballs. His treatment will continue at the White House with doctors on Monday saying he was not out of the woods. Trump told his supporters, don't be afraid of COVID.

Don't let it dominate your life. The virus has claimed more than 210,000 American lives and more than 1 million worldwide. On Monday, White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany became the 14th person in his circle to test positive. Anonymous aide said on Monday that Trump had grown tired of watching news coverage of his health. Yeah, and as it turns out, the unhinged conspiracies across the board were totally wrong. I don't know if you guys were tracking what these journalists were saying. You've been seeing it.

I mean, I saw one journalist say that she had some anonymous source report that Trump was like on his deathbed. You might pass away imminently. And I was also simultaneously seeing that he's actually just faking it to get out of these debates. It's like whatever the Trump is doing, the bad thing, the bad thing could be many one of many possibilities. We're not sure which one, but just know that something's not on the up and up because Trump, you know, it's really annoying to me is like, I don't know how many times I can tell people that everything Trump does is wrong. So so look, people I got I got some messages from friends. They're like, man, it's I hate the media morning.

Like every segment you've done has been the media is bad. These people I'm like, yeah. Because like all throughout this news cycle with Trump and COVID, it's been a roller coaster of emotions. Is he faking it? Well, whatever he's doing, it's wrong. Okay. So he's faking it.

What a jerk. Then they took pictures of him working and they're like, the pictures are fake. It's like, okay. Like even the pictures he took are bad. Everything is bad. I saw Yahoo News speculating that they were trying to make it look like Trump was working over several days because he was wearing different clothes and in different locations. It's like the man takes off his suit jacket and then goes to a different room. And it's this big conspiracy where he's apparently trying to make it look like what are you talking about?

So so that that was one of my favorite conspiracies because I actually had these resistance people tweet at me and then delete their tweets. This is funny. So this one was there's a photo of Trump. He's wearing a suit jacket, no tie, though. And he's like signing a paper. The first conspiracy theory, the paper was blank. No, it's just called blown out. When when when the light is trying to adjust for like a lower light area and you have a white reflection. It blows out the image. You can't see anything on it. So they thought it was blank.

They're literally photos of Obama doing the same thing. So that was the first conspiracy, which they still are pushing. How insane. The next was the EXIF data. That's right. When you take a picture and then publish it, there's a bunch of information stored on that image, like what kind of camera it was. Was there a flash?

Where and when the photo was taken? The only issue with this conspiracy, I love it so much, is that there's also a caption that says Donald Trump has seen at the White House after being diagnosed, or seen at Walter Reed after being diagnosed with COVID. And so they're all saying, like, these two photos are taken 10 minutes apart. And I'm like, but there's a caption in it, meaning someone ran it through a rendering program and created a new file. And so I tried explaining to people that the reason the date is 10 minutes off is probably

because the photographer loaded a bunch of raw files into a program and then added the captions and then compressed them down, creating new files. And so after saying that, it's a very simple explanation, I actually had someone say, no, you are wrong. All that would do is change the modification date. So it would say date modified, not date created. Or at the XF date, XF data is not date created because it's specifically about the camera on when the camera.

And I'm just like, dude, do these people really think that the Associated Press is in on it yeah like had a meeting with trump and they were like yeah so trump was like we're going to stage this to make it look like i'm working and the photographer was like i'm the journalist who's in on the conspiracy so our journalists good guys are enemies of the people okay are they working with trump a fascist dictator to make him look good or did they just render a new file that has improper data? Or like it's just conspiracy world and they're allowed to do it? Well, what I find so hypocritical

about all this is like, we remember during the 2016 election, there was all this speculation over Hillary's health. And we were told that that is just, it's because of actually sexism and just conspiracy theories. And nevermind that.

But I mean, Biden, a lot of people do believe he has cognitive decline right but like the media never talks about it doesn't report on it but all of a sudden trump essentially you know gets the flu and like non-stop for the past like what 70 some hours i remember i was looking for a story to talk about and i did not want to talk about trump having covid because i mean doesn't what am I supposed to do with that? But yeah, there was nothing else because this completely consumed everybody. They're going to get us for this one because COVID is not the flu, but they're going to clip it. They're going to clip it.

And they're going to be like, Lauren Chen is pushing. I'm not even. These people are nuts. So Trump got COVID. The survival rate for, I people in his in his bracket is like 70 i'm sorry it's uh he's 74 so it's like 95 percent yeah and it's actually like pretty scary but it's because he's he's obese and he's older and he's older but i don't think his diet is that great yeah he eats at mcdonald's all the time what didn't he wasn't he saying something

like wasn't he eating mcdonald's recently is or was that a joke someone was joking about like mcdonald's is going to make him strong and like get him through this he loves he loves fast food uh so i know somebody who used to cover his his uh like his campaigns for a while and they would fly on the plane with him and everything and they said he's always eating fast food they also said he was a really nice guy like he would like offer people like you know if you want anything yeah man but that he's he's a germaphobe so that this is the craziest thing they used to say i remember covering trump's campaign back in 2015 and 16 they're like the dude's totally germaphobic he like was always wiping his hands off and he doesn't like touching things and the only reason he eats fast food and he doesn't like going to other places is because they have uniform standards interesting so he's like the food is all made

manufactured in a factory. So he's not worried about like tainted meat and stuff like that for the most part. So it's like, I know I'm getting the same standard at every place. But if you go to like a small restaurant, you can get food poisoning or something. Yeah. To hear like, so I know journalists who are like, yeah, Trump is like a germaphobe. And then to hear them complain about him not wearing a mask. I'm like, that's kind of weird to me because the dude is like germaphobic, older guy. He's like always wiping his hands down and stuff. And I think the issue with the mask is just like it's to stop other people from getting sick.

So I wonder if like Trump was just like, I don't care or whatever, you know, but then but then Trump gets sick and then also the conspiracies erupt. Yeah, I mean, like to the the the comment about fast food places having standards, I mean, I'm sure a lot of people watching can testify to the fact that places like Taco Bell being a chain and having supposedly universal standards, not necessarily protection against fast food. Hey, hey, hey, Taco Bell's all right. I like it. I think it's worth it. You know, you roll the dice, what happens, happens. It's still good food. Meant to be.

Yeah, yeah. You know, you could get a bowel obstruction or you could clear yourself out one or the other depending on what you get we never know did um did anyone ever figure out what trump's uh secret cocktail of medicine was i love how they're i love how they're like experimental drugs yeah what is he taking stem cells maybe he really does feel 20 years old yeah just inject the baby fetuses right like so uh you know look trump's fine i don't i it's ridiculous because even though covid it's it's worse than the flu it's a serious thing the the main issue that needs to be clarified with covid is that it as a novel virus we didn't know how to treat it we're actually at the point now

where we do know and one of the interesting things about all this is that they were like why are they giving trump this medicine or that medicine and then there were actual people saying like it's because we changed how we're treating it it's been it's been seven months or whatever you know we've we've changed our course of treatment like they're not they're not doing intubation anymore those were damaging people right yeah it was right and so now they're just like supplemental oxygen not ventilated and you give him these medications, and Trump is fine. He's a couple days. Are they still doing the plasma treatments for people who have it

more serious? I don't know, but that's cool. Yeah, that is plasma. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, I was reading about that. We talked about that with somebody. I can't remember who it was. Where it's like they take your blood out, and then they run it along like this membrane, like put oxygen in it. That's crazy. Yeah, Weinstein was saying that it might have been damaging the hemoglobin in the cells.

The virus itself? Yeah. Yes. And that's why. So they weren't able, the cells weren't able to transfer oxygen. It wasn't that you needed more air in your lungs because the cells themselves were having a hard time. Yeah.

Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. That's pretty much what I know. It's my biology. You nailed it. That's exactly it. That explains everything. No, but I love this. I mean, the point I was trying to get to earlier is like, I'm not trying to drag or mock the man because he's sick.

No, I wish him the best. But the reason why I think it's totally okay to make jokes about this is because we knew he was going to be fine. You know, and there's like comments about how like, oh, you got to be solemn and don't don't mock the president. Well, there's one. It's one thing if you you're like trump is a moron what a dumb okay that's that's not poking fun but like you know if i were to you know post a meme of trump there was a funny meme of uh trump with it was willie wonka with trump's face you guys know this we're like willie wonka walks out of the cane and then he falls over but it's trump and then someone there's another meme where it's a whole bunch of conservative faces i don't even what the movie is but it's like trump is babe ruth

and then he like hits a home field of dreams no no i don't know what it is i don't it's not babe ruth but he's like he's playing baseball and then the ball is the coronavirus and they throw it and then trump hits it and it's like you know they do the deep fake thing yeah that's going viral yeah it was like trump's face and then you had a bunch of conservatives on the i've also seen the uh the redub of you the the wwe thing with him like yeah they've done the cnn version but now there's the coronavirus version where it's just like the guy's head is actually just the coronavirus this is so good for him i think so yeah yeah because it was only three days so the the worrying thing is that you know kaylee mcinerney today reported that she was asymptomatic, but she tested positive.

And Trump definitely needs her because she is like the fake news buster. I love her. I'm a huge fan. She's got the binder. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm just imagining her as like, you know, putting on the Ghostbuster jumpsuit to all the journalists. Yeah.

But she's so she's, you know you know gonna be in some somewhat inhibited now because she's got a quarantine and then if trump did have to isolate or still does that's bad i mean this is this is the this is the home stretch man this is where trump needs to kick it up a notch yeah they need to be on the campaign trail well actually and speaking of all these like coronavirus testing results i don't know if you folks have seen from the new york times oh gosh it was the new york times new y Post. But there was this report about how the sensitivity of a lot of COVID tests are actually too great. So they might be more confirmed cases than there should be. Some of the people who are testing positive might have either had it months

ago and they're no longer contagious or might have been contaminated in the lab. And actually, Westphalian Times, they just did a report looking in canada and it's the same thing there as well and i'm sure you know probably in most developed countries where they're doing this we might actually be kind of quarantining people who don't have it and who aren't necessarily susceptible to passing it on and destroying the economy and lives in the process there were a bunch of there were a bunch of stories recently where they like reduced the number and they're like, oops, 200 of those were wrong and then just got rid of them.

There was one, I want to be really careful with numbers because we don't have the sources pulled up and I definitely got to be careful there. But there were some stories I saw where a substantive number of the confirmed cases were just wiped out

like that was a mistake. And then there was another viral story. This is crazy. I think it was in Texas where they said that likely cases are added to the total number of cases so in order to be a likely case you had to be in proximity with someone and then have two symptoms so like if you visited your mom and then a week later your mom said she was like sneezing and had a cough they'd be like like, that's a COVID case. And they added to the total without testing.

Oh, my God. But the crazy thing about that is it's like, what if they just have allergies? Yeah. What if it's a cold? What, you know, it's like. I mean, I've had a runny nose for the past four years at this point. Oh, my gosh. So you're patient zero.

Yeah, I pretty much am giving you all coronavirus. Oh, okay. Cool. Thank you. Gluten intolerance is pretty prevalent in society. That causes people to sneeze and have runny nose and get a fever. I mean, there's hay fever. Yeah, there's seasonal allergies.

You hang out with your mom, then you go home, and then all of a sudden a flower farts in your face. I'm like, that's COVID. That's how it works, yes. I mean, I don't know about you guys, but anytime now where I'm in public and I have to sneeze or cough, I try to suppress it. I'm very conscious about it. No, I roll with to sneeze or cough i like i go straight for it are you guys i i add a several decibels but if i'm gonna sneeze normally my sneeze would be like i go

no i'm kidding he totally does i'm so ready for this to finish i don't know about you guys but when i when i see people with masks, I just get angry. I get frustrated, sad. I get more sad than anything. And I'm just like, I want to start. Why though? Why? Because it's just, I don't want to speak about my feelings on it publicly without proof or

anything, but I just feel like it's so ridiculous and overblown. Like we've gone way too far. We've shut down way too much for something with a 99% recovery rate. Is that what it is? come on no no wait i'm sorry it's like 99.5 oh no is it i think it's super no i think it is 99.95 yeah it's really really and i mean the thing is a lot of people are saying well is it better if people just like would you rather have people just die and i don't think they understand that people are missing things like cancer screenings right there are surgeries that are being delayed there are people now who won't be able to do things like pay for their medical bills like that it's a lot of a bigger deal than just saying oh well wait to get your haircut and something like that depression which

for sure i don't know how quantifiable it is but so i i lost a friend an old good friend i'm sure it has something to do with covid quarantine, you know, whatever it was. People were losing their minds. I mean, during the last recession, like there were actually marked increases in things like suicides, unfortunately, and, you know, alcoholism and all of that stuff. So this is actually it's taking a real human toll. So I agree. And actually, it's kind of depressing because where I live, you know, in Quebec, Montreal,

we're actually entering a new phase of lockdowns. Oh, what's it like? Well, we they've just started something like we're in the red zone. So if you're there, restaurants are now closed. I think gyms as well. Schools are staying open. But apparently they're going to be sending cops to schools to keep an eye on the students, make sure that everyone's wearing masks and social distancing. For a while, we've all had to wear masks. It's really, I don't know,

it's, you know, if I would have seen what was happening now, a year ago, heck, even six months ago, I never would have believed it. So you know, you know what happened? You're only allowed to say the world is ending. You're not allowed to say, hey, maybe this is overblown. Because if you do, you're on the risk of being banned. There have been a ton of YouTubers that have been instantly banned, no strikes, no warning, just gone. Because if you do, you run the risk of being banned. There have been a ton of YouTubers that have been instantly banned. No strikes, no warning, just gone. Because they'll put out a video questioning masks or something. Yeah.

So if you're not allowed to have any conversation at all about maybe we went too far, then the only thing anyone ever sees is the end is nigh. It's getting worse. It's getting worse. When if you actually look at the data, you're like, oh, man, we flattened the curve a long time ago. So we saw Rick DeSantis in Florida. He was like, COVID lockdown, done, gone in every capacity over. We just had in Michigan, they were the Supreme Court of Michigan ruled all of the lockdown

stuff unconstitutional. And then so what the governor say, don't care. Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to go go forward anyway because we have 21 days before this goes into effect and apparently that's actually part of the governor has 21 days to to appeal essentially or call for a hearing to challenge the supreme court's ruling if she's straight up saying well then technically i can just keep doing whatever i want for 21 days she's clearly just defying the law and that's crazy a governor basically going rogue and but so the attorney general said nah we're not enforcing any of this anymore so it's all breaking apart now cuomo though in new

york is going to be re-upping all this stuff and i think 12 000 bars and are expected to be completely destroyed right and restaurants the economy in new york is just being just destroying it as to the best of their abilities and it's cuomo's fault you know a good portion of the deaths were nursing home deaths and cuomo was putting sick people in nursing homes did you see he tried denying it yeah he's like that never happened and then a bunch of journalists were like uh like this was really recently we've been we're able to that's what i was that's what frustrates me about there are these like blue twitter quote journalist check marks who love to blame as like 200 000 coronavirus deaths on trump as if somehow trump if you were more competent would be able to

be the only country pretty much with zero coronavirus deaths and they'd also they also don't talk about where all these deaths are coming from places like new york right i mean no one forced cuomo to do that no that, that was like Cuomo with Joker makeup on being like, if I put sick COVID people into nursing homes, what? Come on, man. I don't think anyone in their right mind could assume that that was innocent. It was just an honest mistake. I mean, it's the most vulnerable population when it comes to covid why wouldn't i put a person who's got who's got you know covid into the nursing home why did he do it i don't know i don't think he has a real reason maybe trying to rescue like their state entitlement program or something i

don't know he's saying it never happened that's the crazy thing now he now like he didn't interview like that never happened and they're like oh actually nope never happened you're wrong and they're like actually not wrong wrong hey but happened. You're wrong. And they're like, actually, nope, wrong. Wrong. Hey, but on the upside, the curve is flattened, according to the data. From months ago. It's been flat for a long time. So we're suffering economic now, but people actually are not suffering nearly what they were. Yeah.

So COVID was... So the issue is, I think we've got really short memories in this year, I guess. Yeah. Before this all kicked off, it was conservatives that were actually the most concerned at first. And I made several videos. I made a couple of videos in January that were like approved. And I was like, whoa, something crazy is happening in Wuhan. And then after COVID got crazy, they actually demonetized it after the fact because it's

like all of a sudden now you can't talk about COVID. Yeah, it was really weird because it was before it made its way here, but it was a global pandemic. So it was a mass casualty incident. And then once it became really obvious, it was affecting everybody. Like, OK, fine, we're going to monetize the content again. But so so early on, conservatives were very concerned. Tucker Carlson flew tomorrow to talk to Trump.

It was like, yo, this is serious. So Trump did all these things, started the task force, banned travel to China for the most part. I love how they say, no, he didn't because this, that, and this. Okay, dude, he traveled, he banned travel except for people who are returning back and for, I think, like official business. And then he put heavy restrictions on European travel. Fauci in March said, what the administration is doing is wonderful and I don't think anyone

could do better. And the New York Times had this slider bar where you could be like, if the mortality rate is 3%, here's how many dead, and it's like 6 million. How many people are dead now? 200,000. So here's what ends up happening. You go to these conservatives who read that news and saw what Trump was saying. And then they look at to, you know, the media, like the New York Times saying potential is two million deaths. Trump says we're at 200,000. It's horrible, but it's way better than two million.

The pollsters then ask the conservative, do you think 200,000 dead is acceptable? Yeah. And they say, yes, it is. And then the Democrats go, oh, no. Isn't it true that 94% of those 200,000 had... Comorbidities? Yeah. On average of two to three more.

Yeah. Yeah. So what's really interesting about the comorbidities thing is that COVID killed them. But many of these people, with all due respect, were not long for this world. Or COVID was in their system when something killed them. No, COVID did kill them. So the comorbidities means COVID is the factor. But if it was like they had like terminal heart disease and then they got covid some people had uh

advanced renal failure like dude so so for sure and there there were some instances i think it was in florida where like a guy got in a motorcycle accident and they were like oh come on no joke no joke yeah in illinois there's there's a video on this adam was going was going on this one, like showing the video being like, look at what she's saying. It was a press conference where like one of the top medical people in the Illinois government was saying, if someone dies and then we discover they had COVID in the system, it's a COVID death. And she goes, for instance, if a car accident, there's like literally a press conference where she says this.

Yeah. So however, however, I think you've got uh i it's there's no conspiracy it's just people are kind of dumb you know it's you know the crazy thing about all of this stuff especially with the conspiracy theories is this idea that there's always someone who's super powerful it's like haven't these people realized yet like you're an adult and everyone around you is just like equally dumb you know what i mean it's like at a certain point i remember when i was growing up i always have questions i'd be like how does this work how does that work and then you know my dad always had answers for me when i was like a you know teenager like how does this he's like oh well and then it got to a point where i

was like in my 20s and i'm like how does this work and i asked some like advanced government questioning i have no idea and i'd be like oh i guess i'm an adult now i gotta figure things out for myself but that's what that's when i kind of realized like the the level of my understanding and everyone else it's like fairly equal now you know in in various respects like i'm not going to pretend to be a doctor you know doctors know more than i do and i think a lot of people aren't journalists and kind of think they know everything but there's a lot of people think they know everything but we're getting to this point now where it's like dude if you can't pull off a grand conspiracy to like flub all these numbers nationwide i don't think they can either they could be like wealthy and and evil and have a lot of friends and they're still not going to

pull off any kind of grand conspiracy what i think really happens is that these people are panicky lazy and dumb i mean here's the simple solution to all of this people in government are ineffective it's it's that's the way it is yeah you know if you've got a competition in market you might get talent but for the most part you got people who are like yeah somebody died oh it says covid on the chart they put it in and then later someone's like hey that guy died in a motorcycle accident ah oops happens all the time i think uh panicky is a great word. Panicky? Yeah, a lot of these people are panicking. Did you see the cops arresting the pregnant woman in Australia on the beach? Oh, yeah. Whoa, I didn't see that.

No, what happened? Oh, man. She just screamed she's pregnant, and her sister's like, she's pregnant. Because she wasn't wearing a mask or something like that. Yeah. And there's also been, it was, I think, a child at, gosh, it was some sort of sporting event. I think she was on the bleachers.

She wasn't wearing the mask and the security guard got like freaked out. It's like, okay, say that there is this huge risk of coronavirus contaminating you because she's not wearing a mask is, is what you want to do really go get into like a physical confrontation with them. That's why I really love the old toilet paper videos. Remember that like earlier in the year when people were running full speed. So it's like we have a pandemic coming and it is it is a very serious illness and then a video of like 100 people shoulder to shoulder like brawling for toilet paper and it's like y'all are gonna get sick yeah you know that was a huge wake-up call for me though because i realized a lot of people are living toilet paper roll to toilet paper roll

i don't know i stock up like i have just a lot of it and i'm like what are you people always use it when uh uh we drove out to go to do the rogan show yeah on the way back we were in arizona in some like little bumpkin town we go to the gas station nobody wearing masks everything was normal and i was wearing a mask and i was like i walked up and i was like nobody i went to the lady, the clerk. And I was like, nobody's wearing masks. And she's like, no, we don't care. I was like, huh.

And I was like, you're not concerned about what's going on. I mean, people are fighting over toilet paper. And she laughed. She's like, oh, honey, we're preppers. It was like a small town. And then she told me this funny story. She was like, I remember when we saw all these videos of people fighting over toilet paper. My husband looks at me and he goes, you think we got enough toilet paper?

And she's like, are you kidding? We got three months. We're preppers. And he went, oh yeah. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like Liam, my fiance producer, he kind of makes fun of me for being a prepper because I mean, I'm not hardcore.

I don't have a bunker. I would if I could. But I don't right now. But it's like, yeah, like my family, we have water, we have toilet paper, we have like medications, we have some emergency rations i would love for more but you know we are prepared a little bit and i did feel this little sense of

indication like haha who's crazy now some good things to get are salt and honey yeah they never oh yeah yeah honey for vinegar too and actually um some some companies sell like uh like seed collections all things that you can grow like really easily. You bought one, didn't you? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. I want ham. Yeah, because we're waiting for it.

I don't think COVID is going to do anything. I don't think there's going to be any kind of massive unrest. I think people are going to will the asteroid into existence or to finally come. Solar flare. Or I mean, there's so many things that could knock out the power grid for like six weeks or two weeks. No, no, no, no. This is what people don't realize.

This is why, like, okay, so look, I did a promo several times for food buckets, like the emergency food last 25 years or whatever. And people are like, ha, ha, ha. And I'm like, dude, sometimes it rains. It's like you watch these videos and it's like a flood happened and people have been trapped in their homes for two weeks. And I'm like, I hope they have food. Were you guys aware of like the Midwest, how it got just massively flooded earlier in the year?

Oh, yeah. Like in Iowa. It didn't get a lot of media attention. Because we're in stunned silence. But because sometimes it rains. So even though when we have these disasters, it's not news to most of these outlets. They're like, I don't know. If we told people it was raining really bad and there was a flood, they'd be like, yeah, that happens all the time.

It doesn't affect me. It doesn't interest me. So you actually have a lot of people. this is what i never understood about this stuff is like aren't you concerned that you might get stuck in a blizzard because like that happens all the time in the midwest right and it happens all the time like in canada too and where i live i used to live like behind a farm and in front of a slightly bigger farm we would lose power all the time sometimes for days you know very common have backup generators food that's easy to prepare and things like that because you just never know. And I feel like hearing people in the city kind of try to tell people who actually have to deal

with these situations, oh, you don't need that. You're being overly precautious, paranoid, whatever. It's like you don't know. And I think some of them got a huge wake-up call when the whole COVID thing happened. Bought guns. Yeah. They bought guns and they bought toilet paper because they're in these little, little tiny apartments where you can't really store anything, right? You can't have food storage, you can't have a generator, you can't have guns because you're not allowed to and like, yeah, they're vulnerable. They're living on top of each other in concrete cubicles where everything smells like sour milk. Yeah, live in the pod.

Here's Yeah, live in the pod. Bend the knee. What I really love the most is when it comes to telling people to get a bucket of emergency food, that's the very centrist approach to prepping. So I have all these conservatives laughing, being like, a food bucket? I got a storage facility. I got 1,000 rounds per gun. I got 20 guns. And I'm like, OK, OK, I'll do better. And then the city people, the leftists, are like, what a moron buying these buckets. Oh, you're so dumb. I have Uber Eats. I don't need that.

Yeah, right. But here's one I love. So our friend Luke over at We Are Change has been doing survivalist training. Awesome. He's doing rifle training. He's filming all of it. It's pretty cool.

It looks so fun. And then someone commented, Tim Pool's virgin food buckets versus Luke's Chad survivalistist training and i'm like okay yeah it was really funny he's got an rv we found the rv hookup so luke come on show me how to shoot yeah actually my my fiancee bought his first gun and like he was we'd done our like firearm certification course thing because we're in canada they're weird with guns we'd done it a while ago but like everything going on it kind of spurred him on to get his own and we have

we have a couple as well and yeah i don't know it's just it's good to be prepared personally i don't know you have an asian background too you can weigh in on this i think i would do well in an apocalypse because i'd eat anything like yeah like i would eat except milk and red wine yeah well you know upset the tummy but i mean aside from that, I'm scrappy I think. I would do well – What does being Asian have to do with that? You'd eat anything, right? I guess.

Is that an Asian thing? Well, I don't know. My fiancé, he'll like freak out about the weirdest things. Yeah, maybe that's true. Like I used to watch – He doesn't want to eat bugs. I know that's like a big deal for people. They're like, how could – they're trying to make us eat bugs.

I agree that the paw thing is disappointed. I would totally eat bugs. I got no problem with bugs. Right? No problem with bugs. Yeah, why not? What about you, Ian? I'd eat bugs.

Yeah, see? I want to eat grass. And you're a wife. Yeah, I want to learn how to eat grass. I think you eat it and you'll puke, but then you eat it again

and then you'll puke and then your body slowly, you boil it in some tea with some lemon and some salt if you have access to it. Adaptive process. You got to break down the cellulose. Yeah, I think tea, grass tea is the way to go.

But people should be able to – if we can learn to subsist off grass, I think human rights is going to be okay. I don't think – I think we subsist off grass by having cows eat it and then we like eat the cow. Something like that. I agree. I like your philosophy. I did the carnivore diet for several months and that was like – that was an experience.

It's tough. Then what was that like? I have never felt so good in my entire life really yeah oh yeah like like i was telling you i have i've had the sniffles for like pretty much forever and i have the immune system of a bubble boy oh get sick all the time um and you know i've trouble sleeping anxiety i like i mean not not serious stuff but stuff over the past couple of years where I don't feel my best. But on carnivore, I had energy, no problem sleeping, waking up early. I just felt amazing. But it's sad because I love carbs. So why did you get off the carnivore diet?

Because I love carbs. You're an addict. Yeah. I know. I totally am. And I went through sugar withdrawals. I don't smoke. I don't drink.

I don't even drink coffee. So really. So it's like I used to think that I was pretty like, oh, clean living smoke i don't drink i don't even drink coffee so really so it's like i i used to think that i was like pretty like oh clean living i don't have any addictions that's not true like there was a point yeah i would have stabbed a homeless person pizza crust no it was bad gluten they the united states has basically been telling us to eat it on the food pyramid stuff because that's what is grown in the united states so it's like a business but it's not corn good for the body corn everything we feed we feed fish corn and wheat yeah oh it's so cloggy and yeah like oh mucusy but i i remember this is a big fat everyone was doing the carnivore diet but then everyone stopped doing it so i'm kind of like well so what is it

is it just pure meat yeah it's just pure meat and's just pure meat. And also, I'm hoping that next year is the year I get pregnant. But also, as good as I felt, I don't feel comfortable. They say if you have a really restrictive diet when you're pregnant, it can lead to things like allergies and stuff like that. I don't want my kid to be allergic to anything. So I want to be eating everything while I'm pregnant. Peanut butter. Yeah, exactly. A lot of peanut butter.

Shrimp. Yeah. Peanut butter shrimp. All the big allergens thai food basically yeah exactly i was gonna say thai food yeah man i'd be miserable if i was allergic to peanut butter because like peanut butter is just it's the best the best thing everything yeah how do we get into this conversation like what do i remember survival toilet paper toilet paper yes the apocalypse toilet paper speaking of what kind of power structure do you have in your house do you use solar now oh right right right now we just use regular but my fiance and i so he's indigenous and they have his tribe they have essentially a thing where they'll give you land if you build on it um right just like here's some land go ahead and it's by this beautiful beautiful lake it's like

lakefront property um so we we've been been looking at prefab houses over there. You don't pay any taxes. So we've been looking at prefab houses to put up there. And I would love to get solar or something up there and kind of be off the grid. You get like a modular shipping container, super high tech. Well, actually, they have really, really nice prefab houses now. They have ones with stone detailing.

They have ones that are two stories. They have really, really beautiful ones that you wouldn't even tell were prefab houses now. They have ones with stone detailing. They have ones that are two stories. They have really, really beautiful ones that you wouldn't even tell were prefab, but they're just cheaper because they build them in bulk. Oh, that's incredible. Have you guys seen the 3D printed house thing? Oh, wow.

That's so cool. Yeah, it's like a gigantic machine that sprays concrete, and then it just draws the house, and then they frame over it. That's crazy. That's awesome. Yeah.

We're on the verge of something big. Yeah, unless we get wiped out by civil war the apocalypse a solar flare that would also be something big so we've been uh uh i know a lot of people it's a meme tim pool talking about civil war but with the uh the election coming up i i want to i wanted to ask you specifically about this because you're canadian what's your perspective on what's happening here? So the escalation of violence, right? So recently we've had a bunch of Trump rallies. And then the left shows up and starts attacking the Trump supporters.

And now you've got these stories popping up in mainstream news that right-wing militias are coming and they're going to take over. And it's like they're not even anywhere in sight. Who are these people? But I'm curious, based on your perspective as a canadian what you think is going to happen well i mean the thing with american politics is that it's kind of it's kind of like an std it's red yes go on what starts in american politics is going to infect the rest of the country and i use the word infect very consciously look at things like critical race theory right that's everywhere it started off in academia and i think kind of like well i mean there's argument to me to be made like the Frankfurt School of German and stuff.

But I think, you know, a lot of it has come from Americans and now it's all over the Western world. And I mean, we see the same thing with like, let's take Black Lives Matter. There are Black Lives Matter protests in Montreal, in Toronto. We've seen them in Europe. So it's everywhere. And, you know, with these Antifa groups, they're getting bolder in the U.S. Again, we're seeing that in places like Montreal, like Toronto. So, you know, when we see this escalation happening in the United States, it's only a matter of time before it kind of spreads, especially in Canada. We're so close and culturally like very, very similar, especially with social media. So it's kind of scary to see because even in Canada, our last election cycle, Canadians are pretty apathetic about politics, you know, for better or worse, you know, because it's nice. We don't really write as much, but it's also concerning because there are a lot of problems that people don't talk about.

But, yeah, this past election cycle was the first time it actually kind of felt almost like an American one. Like, you know, people were there like, well, the Hamilton event. I don't know if you saw with Dave Rubin and Maxine Bern bernier there were antifa people yeah they attacked that old guy right yeah well that happened in canada um so i think especially with the whole barrett situation coming up things are just going to get worse there's going to be more and more tension right i mean tony barrett yeah with the supreme court right um regardless of what happens if they don't manage to get her through before the election then the Democrats are going to be galvanized. And if they do manage to get her through, then Democrats are going to think that a handmaid's tale.

I read once that there was like a ruling from a high court in Canada that saying sorry was not an admission of guilt. I don't know if that's true or just a meme. I'm not sure. I haven't heard. I wouldn't be surprised, though. Right. Because that's like the meme about Canada. Yeah.

Actually, Canada, it's kind of disappointing because I mean, on the surface level, we're pretty free. And don't get me wrong. I would, if you're a Canadian,

you're still very, very lucky. But the thing you have to understand about Canada is that right to self-defense, not a thing. Right to bear arms, not a thing.

Even your right to freedom of speech, not really a thing. We have this thing the canadian like charter of rights and freedoms but every essential right and freedom kind of has a little asterisk next to it saying subject to the whims of the government right yeah right so part of the british commonwealth yeah and a lot of the law is kind of based on like is it is still though i thought i thought they left well no our our head of state is still technically the queen. She's still on all of our money. That's weird.

And she appoints someone to run. You guys vote for Trudeau, right? Yeah. Or you vote for whoever. We have the parliamentary system, which I think is inferior because the administrative head is also the legislative head. And you don't actually vote for a prime minister. You vote for the party and whoever gets,

whatever party gets the most votes, the head of that party becomes the prime minister. So for example, if I'm an American, I can completely, and I'm able to, in my own local district, vote for, let's say, a Democrat,

but then for president, I want Trump. And I want them to be able to have that check and balance system between the parties. You can't do that in Canada. Oh, wow. Yeah. And now you're stuck with Trudeau.

I feel bad for you guys. Prime Minister Blackface. But he's dreamy. Yeah, he's pretty. And actually, we were talking about all of the economic hardships that corona is causing. He recently pledged to donate 400 million Canadian dollars to fight COVID abroad. Oh, but that's like 10 bucks. Okay, yeah, that's fair.

But yeah, this happening as so many Canadians and so many Canadian businesses are facing bankruptcies and we're having a lot of economic problems, but it's okay because he's taking care of the world.

Is his hand held by the queen? How does that work? How much autonomy does he have? Oh, he has total autonomy. I mean, it's largely ceremonial. I mean, don't get me wrong. If I were somehow crowned monarch of England, I would reform the Commonwealth.

I would get things going again. Does she control the military? She controls the military of Australia, I'm pretty sure. I'm not sure about Australia, but I know for Canada, it's largely ceremonial. I mean, on the books, she is technically, but it's not something that's... Yeah, people wouldn't go for it. I was talking to some british people too and i asked them like what would happen if the queen actually intervened in affairs and they're like

people would probably snap then flip out like it's it's it's a she's you know she's the head of state she does have the power but she never uses it it's largely viewed as like never gonna happen yeah she's essentially like a figurehead and a tourist attraction at this point you know the yeah you know the problem is with all of our leaders? No, not Trump, not Trump. Trudeau and the Democrats, they're not leaders. They don't want to take responsibility for anything that happens. So they're playing it perfectly.

If the businesses get wiped out, they can say, oh, but COVID, you know, we had lockdown. If they release the lockdown, someone dies, they'll get blamed. So that's the best thing they can do is just say, well, we had to lock down as a pandemic. And then as everyone's lives are destroyed and businesses are wiped out, they can say, oh, don't look at me. It was COVID. Yeah. Yeah.

But then if people die, they'll say, why didn't you do this? Why didn't you do that? So they're basically use the heaviest hand possible to absolve myself of any at all leadership and responsibility. And then you get someone like Trump, who, of course, is far from perfect. But he's saying, like, we got to keep the economy going. And you had all of these these these stories coming out. You had the UN, I guess, saying a study 250 million people could die from starvation because

the economy grinding to a halt. And this is why doctors should not choose how like doctors don't run countries. Yes. So like you have Fauci saying all these great things, you know, early on, Donald Trump's doing a great job. Okay, that's wonderful. Then later on, he's like, well, here's what we should have done. There are reasons why we elect people to represent us to make decisions. And we don't just have appointed doctors, because the doctor doesn't understand how banking works. Doctor doesn't understand how business in New York works. The doctor is going to be like this virus will kill these people. We got to shut

down to stop people from dying. And the economists are going to say that's interesting we're going to lose twice as many people if the economy shuts down right because starvation homelessness sickness depression suicide oh yeah all that stuff and it's all just the the only thing we end up hearing is and i love this part where they're like you must listen to the science and listen to the doctors it's's like, OK, all right. Then Trump's doctors comes out, come out and they're like, he's OK to leave. Everything's great. They're like, no, he's sick.

He's going to kill people. There's actually somebody tweeted, you know, Trump is going to kill people by leaving. And I'm like, you know what, man? There is a tweet for every circumstance about Trump and whatever. And it's like they have done everything in their power to make sure he cannot actually do anything, but they're not doing anything. So, you know, it reminds me of it reminds me of like a dad, like, you know, walking to the backyard to like, I don't know, fire up the grill and the kids are holding on his legs screaming.

And he's like trying to walk and the kids won't let go. And they're really annoying. That's basically what's going on, in my opinion. Who do you think are some great leaders in the world man i don't know that's a tough one if you had to pick three like define leader i guess you define it oh man good leaders not followers i don't know what do you think you're the guest well i mean i have there there are certain politicians that i like but like unfortunately for me they don't always tend to win so i don't know i don't know if you can call them leaders rand paul yeah yes yeah definitely rand paul rand paul i like uh maxime bernier who's canadian he

he tried to start up the uh the only actual like libertarian kind of center-right party in canada because the conservatives in canada are like i mean they're essentially democrats yeah i mean because it's still Canada. Him I like. Let's see a third one. Let's see. Anyone in Europe? That's cool.

Yeah, Victor Orban. He's kind of authoritarian, though, but I like a lot of what he does. Like, I don't know enough about him to say I support him because, you know, I'm sure there's probably things that I don't condone. But I mean, overall, I think, you know know when it comes to things like immigration they've at least been listening to their their people which is something that a lot of people i think in canada and the u.s don't feel like is happening i guess i guess the question is like what like a good leader is an opinion right yeah there's reasons to say why the the democrats that are obstructing trump in a million

ways you could argue is a good thing. I personally don't think so, but I'm sure they could come up with something like, oh, but putting a check on executive authority is important no matter what. And I'm kind of like, yeah, but jamming a wrench in the spokes for the sake of damaging the spokes isn't real leadership. But I'm sure someone could argue something like that. You could argue that Vladimir Putin is very strong and he makes Russia strong. Yeah, he's efficient. Right. He efficient right efficient leader yeah xi jinping yeah also efficient hey look look china is is is dominating yeah and so sure they've got concentration camps the the question is like what constitutes a good leader from an american perspective it's very very

different from what other people in the world would say for sure i think i don't think those people are good leaders by the way i think into like the private sector like elon musk strikes definitely is a leader jeff bezos is a leader people a lot of might get down on me for saying that about jeff but i mean he's got blue what's that blue what's his space program called you know i've been spending a lot of time on facebook and i just really like mark zuckerberg the greatest leader The greatest leader. We must all vote Zuckerberg. Do you find great leaders in the private sector?

Do you think they gravitate towards politics or maybe? Because I don't know. Sometimes I think leaders can lead from behind. Sometimes they can absolutely be in the private sector. And I think a lot of a lot of them are in the private sector. You know who's a bad leader? Jay Inslee. Oh, gosh.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know who he is? No. He's governor of Washington. And Boeing just announced they're leaving. So there's a lot of reasons. Yeah.

They're losing a ton of money because no one's flying anymore. So that means they're in trouble. They make planes. I mean, they make other things, too. Yeah, they do. So anyway, they're going to consolidate their production, I think, in South Carolina. And so now they're losing all these jobs in Washington. But I do think it has a lot to do with COVID restrictions.

Probably has a lot to do with the rioting. But we also saw the same thing with Elon Musk. He's moving. I guess he's moving to Texas. Is that what it's called? So, man, I'm seeing all this stuff go down. I remember when Elon was like, I'm leaving because the state is insane. And they were basically harassing him.

Even though the state said, here's what you got to do to open. And he was like, we're good. The local county was like, no, we're not you elon so he leaves and this reminds me of atlas shrugged all the all the heads of industry are like we're out well you can have your regulation there's this huge exodus out of california right i mean joe rogan's leaving elms is leaving daily wire folks i mean blair white blair white yeah i feel like there's so many people who are just like all right i'm out and i don't i mean i don't blame them and it's it's sad because there are parts of california that are really beautiful there are a lot of wonderful people like there are good things

about california it's it's a very successful state in a lot of different metrics they attract talent but man do they love killing business there they just love it i left 2018, and I went back a few months ago, and I have no at all desire to go back there. It was so stuffy. I mean, it's this beautiful, wide-open Los Angeles, particularly. Wide-open space with homeless people everywhere and typhus. But this time, it was like you had to wear a mask, and everybody was like, I don't know, gross. And it was waiting in lines to get to the grocery store. The mask is because

of the typhoid outbreak not because not a coronavirus but I went to I did my freshman year at USC and you know I grew up

in Southeast Asia but LA was the only time in my life that I remember feeling genuinely unsafe for my

like just my personhood my property I had never experienced anything like it. It's a horrible place. It is. It's a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

I used to love it. Love it. In 2005 and 2006, weed was legal for the first time in my life. And it was like, wow, this is like the liberal. This is where we can change the country. We can start here. And it felt like that. And the entertainment industry was killing it.

All these YouTubers were flocking to Los Angeles, the beach, 72 degrees 72 degrees every day it was like and now they're repealing civil rights law yeah and pieces in the streets yeah dirty oh man yeah and the funny thing is about the the poop patrol in san francisco is that it's actually a problem in other cities too but they're just the worst what i love about san francisco is that there's someone made a map of all of the instances of human poop in the streets and when you look at it there's so many it's just a giant brown splotch over the map you can't even see the city yeah because there's so many they actually had to hire a poop patrol like it's like could you imagine it's like your town is going over their expenses like well the fire department costs us this much per year we have ems and police and oh yes the poop department

like that's crazy is a taxpayer funded yeah it's public it's a public program it's like it's like they come out with and spray the poop down yeah that's that's nuts like are there other departments we don't know about that just don't like register with us like we all know the fire department we all know we all know the police department but is there like other government programs because the poop department seems like that's a new one. Yeah, for sure. You know, and hopefully not the rest of our future.

Yeah. Well, actually, we did a video about San Francisco. We called it San Francisco. But yeah, they have there. They have a lot of infrastructure dedicated to the homeless. I think they spend like an actual person's yearly income per year on each homeless person. But guess what? They're still homeless. And it's crazy because it's actually, I know a lot of conservatives like to laugh at San Francisco because they feel like this vindication that all of your far left policies are bad. But it is sad. I remember when

I was, I think, 18 or 19, I visited San Francisco. And I thought it was beautiful. And it's like if you're from there and you see what your city has become, like if you're a business owner out there and now you have like someone shooting up in front of your business every day, there's like videos online that have gone viral of like women being attacked by random crazy homeless people. Like that's – man. I don't think there's – And all the while there's a starbucks literally across the street from the starbucks like no joke yeah and there's like i remember i was at a starbucks and this is like i forgot what this was like it's near market

street or something and i'm walking out and i look around as i'm walking out i'm like there's a starbucks across street there's a line i was like but i just walked out of a starbucks no line why would anybody this is the weirdest. No kidding. That Starbucks is the good Starbucks. It's San Francisco in 2014 ish. I lived there for like a year and it was really cool to get offered like, hey, do you want to buy mushrooms as you're walking down the street?

The first time, but like the 19th time, it's just trying to step over people and pass people and you're like, no man. Now you got like whole markets where they're like just holding up in their jacket they really will they'll try and sell you like right up they'll just walk up to you and be like want to buy some mushrooms i don't know if they do it to everybody san francisco is my long hair it's it's capital it's capital city from the hunger games right yeah so yeah so you have these big wealthy

industries you have these these tech companies that are in not necessarily San Francisco, but the Bay Area. Super wealthy, powerful, big tech in Silicon Valley. And then you have like it's like it's the scariest thing about it is it reminds me kind of of Ukraine where you have oligarchs who control everything like, you know, and then you have all extreme poverty so think about another city that would be like san francisco and it's it's hard to find where you have some of the wealthiest people on the planet billionaires running their empires mostly san francisco and at the same time you have poor people taking dumps in the street and doing drugs and there's a rapid homelessness i think india has a lot of cities not maybe not a lot but delhi i think is like that no for sure for sure i mean in the u.s is like— I can't think of one. It reminds me of Ukraine, where a small handful of oligarchs control everything.

And because they're so wealthy, they basically set the prices, and they'll never lose their power. And that's kind of what we get with big tech, where they control what we can see, hear, and even say. Then you have all these really poor people, So they're clearly not interested in helping anybody. It's just facade. I think they think they're interested in helping people. And that's why they push far left policies. And I really do think that a lot of the people from San Francisco, even somewhere like LA that has a huge wealth inequality issue,

I think they think the rest of the country is like that. In their cities, you have the millionaires, the billionaires, and the homeless people. And I think they think, A, that's common and B, it's also capitalism's fault. So that's why in these hubs, these liberal hubs, you have like, I mean, literal socialists who want to tear down the system. So we were talking a little bit about this before the show started, but I wanted to ask you because I was sort of asking you earlier, but we'll just go back into it. From a Canadian perspective, what do you think is going to happen in the U.S. on election night? I mean, I don't like usually to make predictions because I'm always worried about being put into one of those like reels of people being wrong and then owned.

So I tried I tried to avoid making any any predictions. But I do think Trump will win. I mean, I definitely think he was on course to win in a landslide before the whole covid thing. You know, then things kind of became a little bit unclear. But right now, I think a lot of people are tired of the restrictions. And a lot of people are worried about the economy. And I think Trump has a proven track record on that. And I know a lot of, you know, Democrats are trying to say that this torpedoed economy is Trump's fault. But people remember, right, they remember, like filing their taxes from last year,

they remember how well things were going. And I think they trust that a lot more than Biden. But the polls have in some states Biden's up like nearly double digits. Yeah. I mean, I remember what the poll said last time as well. And it's hard because I don't want to be one of those people who just dismisses polls because they don't like what I what I think. And I want to just have confirmation bias. But I think there there is a proven issue with trying to pull Trump supporters and his base.

I think we saw that last year. And I know the last election cycle two years ago, things didn't go well for the Republicans in terms of the House. But Trump wasn't on the ticket then. Right. I agree. He is now. And there are a lot of people who probably didn't vote in the primaries because Trump wasn't there. There may be not necessarily Republicans, maybe not necessarily even politically active. But now that Trump is on the ticket this time, I think it's going to make a difference.

So the polls in 2016 were off by a couple points, maybe like a point or two. And so what ended up happening is you had all these forecasters like, oh, if Michigan's going Hillary, then Trump's going to win. Trump ended up winning due to 77,000 votes across several swing states. Like in some states, it was thin margins where he got winner take all electoral votes. So he did really well in the Electoral College. The weird thing now is like, we had a Jack Murphy on the podcast recently. And he asked me, he's like, Do you think the conditions that led to Donald Trump are worse? Or do you think things have gotten better? I'm like,

oh, it's way worse. And he's like, so then why would trump lose and i'm like but the polls right the polls were wrong but come on like biden's up by like 10 points in some of these polls like 14 27 among seniors like some ridiculous numbers unless they're literally lying and the polls are like broken beyond repair i mean can is that is that is that a strong possibility this is what i was thinking like maybe what happened in 2016 was the polls were slightly off not because they they couldn't find trump's base and they fix and then they went on to fix it maybe their attempts to fix it resulted in them going the other direction but i mean i feel like that's wishful thinking oh what are you gonna say well i was just gonna say that I mean polling is a really really hard thing to do accurately I mean any type of social

science quantification is going to be difficult right I mean because basically what you're doing with these polls is you have small groups and you're hoping that you're you're going to be as representative as possible but there's no way to do that without any type of bias at all so I think you know when we look at polls you they have a margin of error for a reason. And I think they're usually pretty – I mean, they're pretty optimistic with the margins of error that they give. So that's the first thing. And also the second thing is I see a lot of national polls, and people always love to talk about the national polls. The American president is not chosen by direct democracy, right? So it's a lot more useful to do what you do and talk about these specific states that

might be swing states and how they're performing in those areas. But when I see some about like overall, you know, Biden is up nationally, it's like, well, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if everybody in California loves Biden, hates Trump. Like he was never going to get those votes anyway. There's a poll from Democracy Institute and I think the Sunday Express in the UK that has Trump actually up nationally, has Biden at 45, Trump at 46. And that's why I asked you – I say like you're Canadian.

And it's because I wonder if the reason – the difference between these polls in the US versus the Sunday Express is like you've got a UK company. They don't know or care for the most part about our biases. I'm sure they do a little bit. But they're probably like from the outside looking in here's what we see and then you have all these companies and universities whatever in the u.s and they're in the bubble they're in the fray they can't see outside of it well i mean some insight i want to do i do want to give as a canadian is that you guys are absolutely insane when it comes to election security like you you don't have any yep like you don't and it's you have voter id in Canada?

Of course. Why not? Of course. I cannot for the life of me think of a country that doesn't aside from America and how it's controversial in America. I have no idea. It's racist. Of course we have voter ID law.

Oh my. Like I. Have you ever. Have you ever seen that video with Ami Horowitz where he goes and asks. Yeah. So for those that aren't familiar, this guy, Ami Horowitz, goes to a bunch of Berkeley students and says, is voter ID racist? racist they all say yes he asks them why and they're like oh because you know people in these minority communities can't find the dmv or they can't afford it or

they don't have license they don't have a license or they don't have internet so then he literally goes to harlem and talks to a bunch of black people and my and then they're all just basically like what like i have id yeah of course we have the internet of course we have ids but my favorite interaction was where he's talking to this like middle-aged black dude and he goes do you know where the dmv at that do you know where the dmv is at and he goes yeah it's right over there on 25th street like as if he was giving him directions like of course he knows where the dmv is how insanely racist are these people no it's the bigotry of low expectations for sure i think they're overt white supremacists yeah with consciences. I mean, if you listen to

the stuff, the things that they say, they essentially want to treat black people like pets or mentally challenged children who can't take care of themselves and aren't able to self-determine their futures, which is really, really depressing. What if I were to tell you that Prince Harry was a neo-Nazi? Would you believe me?

I would, actually. Prince Harry! So, this isazi. Would you believe me? I would, actually. Prince Harry. So this is really funny because somebody commented on my Facebook. So Prince Harry made a statement so insane, I can't read it verbatim. Because this sentence. It's got to be out of context. Oh, I am not going to say these words. This is so funny. You want me?

Okay. I want to read the actual be with you sir good luck this is the ultra woke prince harry prince harry says he's had an awakening on racism and uh i'm not going to read the next part but i am going to read his quote where he said uh okay here we go prince har Harry has described his awakening to the existence of systemic racism, saying, quote, The world that we know, Prince Harry says, has been created by, according to Prince Harry, white people, says Prince Harry, for white people.

You see, the reason I put all those name drops in it is so that when they try and pull that out of context, I'm saying Prince Harry. Right, exactly. That's not gonna help though i've had someone quote mind me half a sentence well yeah i know i know they'll do it there was one where it's like you can clearly see the edits it's like me going like i think that it and i'm like why are people believing that's real that's so dumb this dude actually said this now here's the funny thing there was a big scandal where he dressed up like a Nazi once.

And it was a front page of, I guess, The Sun or something. So everyone attacked him. And they were like, oh, he had to apologize for it. His Nazi costume with his armband and all that. What was he thinking saying this? Okay, I know. He's thinking he just realized, oh, there is a power structure. And it happens.

Maybe he accidentally said it's a white power. So it's just the rich people. The rich power structure of the world happens to be primarily white people. That's not even necessarily true. Right there. There are a growing number of Chinese billionaires and, you know, like Saudi oil princes. I think, you know, attributing richness to whiteness. That's like ironically very Eurocentric of him. I think i think he didn't say that closed-mindedness he literally

yeah he just said white people yeah that's that's crazy man and then and then when you take that into consideration where that dude ibram x kendi attacked amy coney barrett for adopting black children it's like i don't care what the race of the children she adopted it's good for her for helping out some kids. That's nuts. These people are like... This is the weird thing. Ibram X. Kendi is not a white dude. But I tweeted in response to this that the things these people believe, like Prince Harry,

is a kind of white supremacy, but they're just guilty about it. Well, Harry's not... So they want the same outcomes. Harry's married to a mixed race girl, I would imagine. I don't know her race, but she doesn't look like arian don't don't you know that fetishizing is white supremacy oh yeah of course yeah what's not these days yeah that's true there's nothing you can say you there was there's a game people there's a game people are playing right now it's funny type in is blank racist and you will find it yeah so i was like no way so i typed in uh i typed in is

toothpaste racist yep there was a there was a no no there was a toothpaste scandal where it was like talking about a campaign that was done by some you know company was was was her marshmallows racist i googled it and megan markle yep german firm apologized for racist chocolate oh my god chocolate covered marshmallows oh wow wow i was like surely marshmallows can't be racist and apparently they can what's racist about this oh it's because he's because he's black or something he's chocolate because he's chocolate but isn't that saying that chocolate is delicious but that's fetishizing all right and it's actually the sugar that makes that. When people are like, I love chocolate, they love the sugar. Chocolate's bitter.

I mean, it's good. I like real chocolate. Me too. I don't. I don't like chocolate. I don't like the texture. I put it in my coffee sometimes. No chocolate, no coffee.

I bet you could type is not liking chocolate racist and it'll pop up. It's funny because these were memes back in the day where you'd joke about everything being racist because the woke lunatics were claiming everything was racist. Now it's mainstream. Yeah. Now, like you have Prince Harry who made a statement that I'm sure many people would give him the Roman salute for saying he said the world. He didn't say Europe. He didn't say America.

He said the world. That's amazing. Yeah, he's pretty much dismissing and discounting all of the contributions that other cultures have made, which are not insubstantial. I'm just imagining him like sitting there smoking, wearing like his like, you know, military uniform. And he's like, boy, you know, China? Nah, white people. Yeah. You know, Saudi Arabia and like algebra? Nah, white people.

Yeah. It's like, oh, is that the way it is yeah all the accomplished i was having a conversation with somebody about uh just this this general idea and a progressive friend said isn't it true and i said no it's not true and they're like yeah but like you know colonization spread all over the world and i was like but you do realize agriculture came from the Middle East. We use Arabic numerals. Dude, Genghis Khan. Yeah, I know.

It comes down to math because the reason England conquered the world is because they got physics. They had Isaac Newton gave physics to the queen so their cannons could shoot longer and they were able to dominate the sea. And Genghis Khan had siege weaponry so he was able to dominate it was it was competition it's mathematics physics so i was reading something that may or may not be true so don't take my word for it but i was just reading this article it was an academic article okay so i know i'm gonna get a bunch of lefties being like oh it's fake but uh i was reading was that the european peninsula

you have nowhere to go. You're surrounded by water on all sides. So what would happen is if people in France, for instance, needed resources and they started getting into conflict with another country, you can't run because you're, you know, but then you have, you know, Asia is massive. Africa is massive and North America is massive massive so people in these areas would just run away from conflict in asia however you had the islands and the peninsula the korean peninsula and you had japan and then you had the islands so that led to competition if you have nowhere to go you fight pacific islanders mastered seafaring so that's why they were able to get to like hawaii

and stuff because that was their way out but for people in europe it was like somebody in you know like england would be like we're going to fight the you know the french to steal their stuff because we want their stuff or whatever i don't know the history their women well all of a sudden the europeans are yelling at me but you get the point yeah well there is this like huge school of thought and like i guess anthropology and history that geography is destiny right uh places like i don't know the the Roman Empire, for example, Greece, Middle East, you know, Fertile Crescent and things like that. A lot of, I mean, it's been posited the reason why they were such successful civilizations is because they had the optimal climate, right? They weren't constantly fighting off either extreme cold or extreme heat, essentially,

a geography that was trying to kill you actively. So so they were able to do things like uh you know cultivate crops set aside time and advance their societies nowadays it's just colonialism is destiny and it's yeah it's all imperialism and white people bad yeah so yep all of them and and apparently it's because prince harry believes they've created everything the whole world i can't defend him anymore yeah why would you defend him well i was trying to see what he was like i can imagine he had an awakening of sorts no he didn't i think he grew up very isolated i don't think he ever thought any of that growing up like i thought i think he thought well this is everyone's as good off as i am yeah well i mean i think it's the megan and you know it's the megan margaret and i know she's been really targeted i don't want to like feed into that because a lot of people really do just hate her hate her but she

is i mean she's uh an avowed feminist who is you know all these talking presidents of course oh man oh can you imagine what do you do when you have like a bunch of dumb people in politics you know well that's why i mean i'm well the the left is always talking about how like, you know, democracy abolish the Electoral College. I don't want that. Like the idea of direct democracy really scares me. Doesn't work. Yeah, I don't think so. It's a bunch.

It's going to. I'll tell you what democracy is going to look like. A bunch of people marching to your home yelling rabble, rabble, rabble. And then you being executed for it. Yeah. Because it doesn't matter what's right. It matters what the majority wants. Yeah.

And that's what I try to tell, you know, these SJWs that, well, slavery was democratic. And then they'll come back with something. Well, no, no. You know, inherent in the concept of democracy is, you know, the idea of, you know, universal rights is like, no, it's not. That's not inherent in democracy. What part of that is inherent in democracy? Democracy just means like, you know, rule of the demos.

Right. So it's whatever. So whatever we want. Yeah. So if you have a constitutional republic, then you have guaranteed rights that constrain the government's actions. And then when people come yelling rabble, rabble, rabble, what's supposed to happen is the cops supposed to say GTFO, break it up.

Yeah. I think you could run for office. You could change the way the government's structured so that stupid people don't have as much influence, so that people in general don't have as much influence on the system. Or you could start a private enterprise that benefits the world in such a way that politics can't hinder it. Well, that's what the founding fathers wanted to do, set up a government so limited so that it couldn't have this huge effect on people's lives. But obviously, yeah, over hundreds of years, things have changed. And I've actually, I mean, I've kind of flirted with the limited so that it couldn't have this huge effect on people's lives but obviously yeah over you know

hundreds of years things have changed and i've actually i mean i've kind of flirted with the idea like let's just raise the voting age you know a little bit well i mean we we know now that brains aren't fully developed until i think we're like mid-20s hey hey i think there's a very simple solution presented to us through starship Troopers. Service guarantees citizen. I like that. I like that. No, it isn't. Why is that fascist? That is a fascist dictatorship.

No, it isn't. Starship Troopers. No, it isn't. You're wrong. You are completely wrong. I mean, it's just military corporate. Sargon of Akkad did a huge breakdown explaining the ideology of the dude who wrote it. And it was a liberalist society based on like

lock yeah but and and the idea of service uh gaining or guaranteeing citizen that's actually like a that's a greek principle so what about that is i guess fascist to you um i guess that the well i don't know much about the corporate power of starship troopers to be honest but i would imagine it was that the the general idea was you were you could quit at any time if you wanted if you if you provided service it could be in a wide range of different areas it doesn't doesn't it doesn't necessarily mean military or war and they encourage you to leave because they want only people truly committed to the betterment of society fighting to to vote on those issues but but citizens uh civilians had full rights citizens had the right to vote i think it's if the government's giving you the citizenship it's

different than you giving yourself the citizenship which is what we have here's here's the conflict look do you know why uh land only land landowners could vote back in the day? Yeah. They had a vested interest. Yeah. They had a stake. And it was also because I was reading something about it. It was amazing.

They were like, people didn't have IDs back then. So how did we know who you were and why you had a right to vote? Oh, because you live here and you're a member of the community voting on the issue. Yeah. So people who didn't live there didn't vote. But then we got to the point where we had landlords and we had apartment complexes and we had expansive societies. So we were like, well, these people live here.

We need a way to prove they do. So then we started doing IDs. Then we just made it basically like everybody votes. But no longer did anybody have a vested interest. So now it's like time based. You have to live here for a certain amount of time, then you can register. But then you can leave right away. Right.

So I think we're at a point where everybody should have the right to vote but we have to figure out how to make sure that when votes occur the people who vote have a vested interest in what they're voting for well i don't know how you do that though that's hard and i'm not sure how to do that either but what i think is really really terrible is mandatory voting i am very very, very strongly against that. And I've actually heard, I mean, I've heard people say, it's great, you know, this is how you realize democracy, but I don't want people who are apathetic and uninformed to have to vote. That's the opposite of what you want. And I'm someone who very strongly believes that just universal franchise is not the same thing as universal rights. And so I think we've conflated these two issues, democracy and liberty.

And I think we need to be spending more time talking about liberty and actual rights rather than just conflating it with checking a box on a ballot, especially when the ballots aren't secure, as it's seeming. This is insane. We had like 100,000 ballots go out in New York that were like mislabeled. Amazing. We had 70,000 ballots in Baltimore were held by the post office for five days. No idea why. I think all in all, about a million ballots in the primaries were at risk for disqualification because of the post office, not the individuals.

So this is going to be fun. What happens when you get people in Brooklyn and they can't vote? Yeah, that's that's those Democrat votes. Then the Democrats are going to sue and they're going to jam everything up. And Trump's going to be like, you did this. This is your fault. You're disqualified. Don't look at me.

And they're going to drag it out like crazy. Then they're going to blame Trump for everything. I don't think these people are going to vote. That's the thing. I think maybe Biden's up in the polls. But I tell you, man, I see people on Facebook saying things like Orange Man bad. And I know for a fact these people will not vote. You could you could take the ballot, jam it in their face and hand them the pen and they're

going to be like, oh, they're not going to do it. Yeah. So I'm like, they're going to get a mail in ballot and it's going to land in their junk pile. They're not. First of all, I know a lot of these people in Chicago, my friends. I'm like, dude, you don't even check your mail. When you do, you throw it in a bin. There's like a bin bin under the mailbox you just chuck it in because you're like it's junk they're not gonna vote well i mean that kind of is what happened with bernie sanders and his support base right i mean there are a lot of the like really militant bernie bros well you didn't show up in the primary votes so i guess like the revolution is important but not that important the revolution is important to claim yeah i actually do so regarding the starship troopers

someone in the comments we talked about this before on the show said that um service is only military service in that in that movie because we had said that it was service of any kind like i think right i think i think what i mean to say is it's not combat people were saying only combat service gives you citizens that's not true yeah a lot of people were saying that in the comments so no it's definitely not only combat, right? Because even in the movie, I've not read the book, but even in the movie,

there are roles that aren't combat. Yeah, there's like intelligence. Military service. Pilot. It is military service. In the movie, people are joining the military, but they're not combat.

I don't know. Do you guys actually like that? I'm fine with the idea of service guaranteeing citizenship. And I don't think it should be strictly military because I think that I'm not someone who's a big military person. That's like one of the few areas where I disagree with a lot of other conservatives. But I mean I think some sort of national service, whether that be – I don't know. Yeah, military would be one. Working in a va yeah

va or something like some some sort of volunteer service yeah i'm into that so like i don't just like pure military service though yeah or like you know environmental work just something where you actually have to like pay back into the system in order to vote is that what you guys is that what you're talking about i would i'm not i'm not saying i'm endorsing this first and foremost but but i am saying there's something there to look at and then work through and figure out this idea that you have to earn your vote right you can't just arbitrarily vote because what happens is now they're trying to lower the voting age to 16 oh the democrats are like let's just get 16 year olds to vote it's like what dude i there were 16 year olds like biting tide pod they weren't eating them okay first of all nobody ate a

tide pod but they were he died he died yeah i remember he actually ate one yeah he swallowed biting Tide Pods. They weren't eating them. Okay. First of all, nobody ate a Tide Pod. One kid did. He died. He died? Yeah, I remember. He actually ate one? Yeah, he swallowed it on accident. Well, there was one kid who was jokingly put a Tide Pod in his mouth. Yeah.

And then it disintegrated and he aspirated some of the fluid and then started coughing and gagging and it scarred his lungs. Yeah. So they weren't eating them. It was a joke.

But if you're dumb enough to like, I saw a video once of some kids jump off of a garage roof like backyard wrestling yeah yeah great give them the vote now look i get it they're they're adults that do the same thing you know what i mean yeah but i mean i mean we it's it's not just being ageist like there's actual science to back up the idea that no 16 year olds don't

make good decisions because it was at their prefrontal cortex. They're not completely neurologically developed, and they have an especially hard time making long-term decisions, which I would say are important when it comes to voting. And when I was 16, I actually made a playlist for someone because I thought that would convince them to date me. These people should not vote. To be fair, how old were you, 16? I was 16. That might work for 16 year olds it's a bad bad idea don't do it but this brings up a bigger point why should a 16 year old vote when the most important news in their world is that janie got a haircut and now billy won't

stop looking at her right so so i remember i was talking to i think i think i mentioned this in the show i was talking to some family and i was trying to explain news to like my cousin's child who was just like a 13 year old girl and they're like oh she'll never care she doesn't care and i said the easiest way to explain news to a kid is like who's the worst person in your class and then she's like oh like this this person now imagine she was given the ability to make rules for you and she went oh and i'm like all of a sudden you care about what it is she's doing and why this is going on it's like that'd be crazy and i'm like that's what it is for when you're adult and like you know joe biden or donald trump wants to be president you've got people who are like we don't like this person he's going to make the rules for us so the issue with voting is do you

actually have a vested interest in this you don't what would what would you both think, you all think about tying the right to vote to being a net taxpayer? Because a lot of people have an issue with the fact that you, right now, you are able to vote to give yourself someone else's property, essentially. Right. And then what ends up happening is over time, you have a continuation of vote for me and I guarantee you I will take his to give to you. I mean, it's Panama at Kirk Kansas at a certain point right you're you're promising people raw goods in order for their vote yeah well andrew yang literally did that yeah vote for me and i'll give you even i think he even tweeted like i'm literally offering you a thousand dollars and i'm like how is that not trying to buy a vote is that illegal yeah yeah um there's a there's a quote for oh i'm sorry there's a there's a quote from some guy i don't know if you can try and find it where he said

something like american democracy will end when politicians realize they can simply offer up taxpayer dollars in exchange for votes. Something like that. What was the exact question you were saying? How would you feel about tying the ability to vote to being a net taxpayer? What's a net taxpayer? I mean, there are some people who, for example, put in more to the pot than they take out. You know, when you factor in all the services that they use, entitlements and things like that. So there are people out there, and I think this is an interesting idea. I would have to see how

it's exactly calculated before I say I would for sure support, you know, a certain plan. But there are people out there who think that, for example, if you're a net taker from the system, if you're claiming all these entitlements and you're not paying any taxes, that you shouldn't be able to vote. Because at that point, you're voting for your right to take away someone else's property or you yourself are not bankrolling the government. I got an idea. We got how many people? We got four people in here. All in favor of taking Ian's stuff and then keeping it for ourselves.

Me sounds good. Me. Wait, are we talking about? I knew I was going to lose. I just wanted you guys to like me. Okay, for those that are listening, everyone raise their hand including Ian. He's very generous. Psychological.

He's a generous God. Now I get to give it back to myself, right? Yeah, but only a little bit. Who's that person that said democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting what's for dinner? I think it's misattributed to Benjamin Franklin. It's a good quote either way, though. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting what's for dinner i think it's misattributed to benjamin franklin yeah but it's a good quote either way though democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch a republic is uh is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote yeah i like that something like that i think i'm i maybe did you find it i don't like the money thing i don't like tying voting into how wealthy you are so and that i don't really like that idea but what do you okay

so what do you guys think about it's like there's something there how do we make sure that people have a vested interest in who they're voting for and why do you guys so the services would be like a way to do that without tying it to wealth right because you can volunteer time even though even if you're not able to do it yeah for money what about a political aptitude test that you know why i actually i who makes the test yeah historically that's been dubbed racist uh in the states i think the southern states they tried to implement like a reading test oh yeah and it was like the words use like uh double meanings and so it's like impossible to answer correctly i mean that would be you don't you'd be unable to do that in the united states but i you know it's really hard when you have people voting on issues that affect the economy when they have no idea how the economy works.

That's really, really frustrating. Like, let's just give everybody a thousand dollars. Yeah. I don't like people that go in and they just check D for everything. Yeah. Or whatever. Did you guys hear about the transgender Satanist anarchist who ran as a Republican and won? Won the primary.

That's brilliant. And she made a really great point. Like, you voted. Why are you mad? That was your choice. Oh, maybe you shouldn't just. Yeah, why are you putting down? Maybe you should actually look up who you're voting for. Yeah.

Didn't it used to be 21? The voting age was 21? Yeah. Not too far. Yeah. During, I think it was Vietnam. And then they lowered it because there are people who are being drafted who are unable to vote. And, you know, the argument was and I agree with it.

If I'm able to die for my country, I should be able to, you know, to actually vote for what happens. And so when I've talked about how about raising the voting age, a lot of people have said, so you think service members shouldn't be able to vote? And this is going to be something controversial. But I actually do think and I'm interested to hear what you all think that 18 is very very young to be able to join the military i think you've just solved the equation yeah you have to be at least 25 or have served in the military oh how about that balance interesting yeah we're served in some capacity yeah yeah government capacity not necessarily government maybe like i would the government kind of sucks yeah i would be like i think it would be cool to extend that to like

ngos or just like charities or some sort of civic some sort of civic involvement you know you know the problem is sometimes you have genius 16 year olds that should be in charge yeah but they're yeah outliers no if they were smart, they would just stand on the shoulders of their buddy with a trench coat and they'd be able to vote. Yeah, fine. Fake mustache. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, if they were smart enough. Fake mustache. And actually, like, that's the one thing that's going to go in there. When I first started talking about raising the voting age to 25, I think I was 23 at the time, and I had people saying,

well, aren't you upset that that would take away your own right to vote? And I thought that was such a strange argument for them to make because, you know i when we were talking about this i i would assume that we're not trying to do what's in in interests of ourselves but rather for the country so it's like even if at the like it ends up disenfranchising myself i want what's best yeah like like if we had to ban twitter i'd be on board i'd be like government come in and just take everyone's phone including mine yeah list us all i will gladly give up it's it's a horrible

horrible thing it's an exam i think twitter is an example of why democracy direct direct democracy doesn't work it is literal mob rule on that site yeah and it's just people screaming as loud as possible and saying the stupidest things and that's what the world would be like without this like the system heaven forbid we got rid of the electoral college and twitter represented what actually won yeah well what what do you think the i guess social media in general but specifically twitter what effect do you think that has had on the progressive left people like aoc and yeah it's made him absolutely insane look at bernie sanders he's been like you know when i think of politics in this country you have like

the left and the right and donald trump is like sitting on a stump in like kind of center right position and he's flicking you know a little bread at the birds and he's just sitting there and he's like i'm over here because everybody's sitting there we're going to build the wall it's going to be great and then bernie was next to him but then bernie was in a car just driving left and just kept going yeah and now he's not even in the room with anybody he's just gone bernie sanders originally was like and the free trade agreements we need border security you know open borders a right-wing proposal it's because hillary cut his brakes yeah stop the car he just kept going well i don't want to blame her but the dnc

cut his brakes yeah but he still bent the knee i don't i don't know i i think i think it's because they're they're eating their own refuse the the far left is lovely imagery it's like human centipede but like instead of instead of one line it's a circle where they're all stitched together, you know? Yeah, that's nice. So what happens is, and I've explained this quite a bit, if someone on the right steps out of line even a little bit, banned instantly. Gone, yeah. So all that's left are these very, like, you know, clean cut, for the most part, moderate conservative types on social media. You know, Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones, Laura Loomer, all removed from Twitter.

So they're not part of the conversation anymore. Now you have Jack Posobiec and like Will Chamberlain, and they're very, you know, for all the criticisms that people give Jack, it's, he's still very just kind of, I don't know what the right word is. To me, he's just, you know, mainstream conservative. I don't, well, I want to say kind of like downtone, not bombastic, not screaming. You're getting like, I hereby think this is important for this reason. It's

kind of like, okay, I get it. But the left is allowed to say whatever they want. It's a private company. I worked at Mines for a long time. I co-founded the company and worked as an admin. You get total control of who you want to ban within reason of how you interpret the code, how you interpret it.

So think about what happens. So Jack Dorsey, who literally donated, what, $10 million to Ibram X. Kendi? Yeah. Basically that black – I don't know what you want to call him, but he's essentially – He's a supremacist. Yeah. Or he's a segregationist, I guess. Yeah, that's –

He called Amy Coney Barrett a bunch of really awful things because of her kids. But anyway, Jack Dorsey donates that guy. So then he allows the fringe of the fringe. And so because there's no breaks on the left in on social media, they're just going full speed. Mach Mach seven to the left, whereas conservatives are being held where they are because if they step out of line, they'll get banned. Right. And so that that turns someone like liberal Tim pool into a conservative because they just keep going further and further left yeah well i mean i think the whole with the whole twitter thing and facebook

as well youtube all of these tech platforms i think we are if we're not already there we are entering an age where we're going to be a technocracy right and what i don't understand is right now in the u.s and really think most democracies, there are campaign finance laws and restrictions about how you can advertise on these social media platforms because they recognize it is campaigning. So how can you tell me that Donald Trump posting an ad onto Facebook or whatever, that's political activism needs to be declared and monitored and all that. But Facebook can ban whoever they want flat out, control whatever stories flat out. And we can't do anything about that.

That makes no sense. Facebook just banned 216 Trump ads because he was talking about he said a bunch of the ads were like Joe Biden will increase the amount of refugees coming in this country. A very serious issue that people are concerned with. If you are concerned about, you know, increasing immigrants and refugees, refugees in this country, it doesn't mean you're racist. Facebook banned them. Because they think that's racist.

They have a rule against telling people that they're in danger due to, you know, other people based on national origin or whatever. And it's arbitrary. Wait, so does that mean that Democrats aren't allowed to tell people that the Russians are trying to fix their election? It does. But of course, they'll get away with it. Yeah. And they'll get to do whatever they want. I mean, and boy, are they really pushing that russia garbage they are

and you know what's funny back baby i'm old enough where where i can remember that oh gosh when mitt romney was running against barack obama he actually named russia as the biggest threat to the united states and all the liberals at the time were laughing at me this is it yeah this isn't the cold war grandpa and then you know just cup several years later here we are and they're trying to make and don't get me wrong i'm not saying that like russia is amazing in terms of track record for human rights and i'm also not saying they're not trying to influence things but they're really making them out to be the bookie man this is a really good example of why service guarantees citizenship as an idea because right now you have these low i call them low information

belligerence so that's like a dude i know in chicago who's always retweeting stuff and it's the funniest thing to me because i'm like bro i know you you sit around making sourdough bread in your apartment you're you're not paying attention at all to any of this you're seeing a spicy hot take from someone that you don't understand and you're hitting retweet you're not gonna vote i know you're not gonna vote but you're pushing these unhinged busted ideas because it's tribal. And then you're sitting there going like, I'm so smart. And then what?

And then they have the nerve to criticize me. I read nothing but news all day, every day for hours. And then I do four hours of content on it. I'm not saying I know everything in the world, but I'm pretty sure i know a bit more than these random people who think they're they're smart so you get a bunch of people who have no idea what's going on who for tribal reasons are like we want to we want to own the cons so we're going to go vote against our own interests while simultaneously believing the trump supporters are voting against their own interests that's that's one of the funniest things too about this whole cycle is like someone commented on one of my threads being like trump has lied to you he has you know

told you to live recklessly and now you've all been convinced the whole time while he's getting all the best treatment in the world it's like the covid thing like he told you to to drink bleach while he gets medicine it's like i thought he never said that yeah like joe biden said on the debate stage why don't you inject some bleach and then trump responded that was sarcastic trump you didn't even say to inject bleach just man trump was really off his game huh but it's like i don't care what these people don't realize is the best example of the left having no idea what's going on is the proud boys hashtag you saw this yes i did so there was 500,000 tweets of mostly LGBT people. And it was photos of like gay couples saying we're proud boys.

And the actual proud boys didn't care. Yeah. And they never did. And they didn't even use the hashtag. So I guess like the leader of the proud boys issued a statement saying we have gay members. We're totally cool with this. Like, I don't understand what the point is. They don't care.

The journalists were actually saying after the debate, don't interview the Proud Boys. Don't give them press. And I'm like, the real reason they're saying that is because then they'd be forced to interview a black man and ask him why he's a white supremacist. And Americans would be like, huh? What? Who's this? What? But that's the name of the game.

Don't talk. Don't report the news. Don't tell me what's really going on. When I when I started doing like my daily YouTube stuff after I left Fusion, I was going to Sweden because you had this right wing narrative of, you know, all this all this violence in Sweden. And Donald Trump was like, you see what's going on last night in Sweden. So I said, I'm going to go. I got hit up by a bunch of vice news journalists saying, don't do it. And I was like, why not? And they're like, because they're lying. And I was like, who's lying?'s lying the conservatives and i was like you'd go and you'd see that i was like great i'll go and prove that they're lying and they're like no don't do it donate your money

to charity and i was like i was really confused i was like dude i worked with you like a year ago you know i travel around the world covering news whenever there's a big story why wouldn't i go to sweden it sounds too i was like i was i was literally there three months before i had ice cream walking around it was totally fine. I was in mama. And I was like, I don't understand why I'm getting berated all of a sudden. This was when, like, I guess, I think the culture war started. And I was, like, off doing my thing. You know, I went to, like, Japan.

I was in Fukushima. I was just filming documentaries and minding my own business. And then all of these people were going insane. And people I had worked with were, like, supposedly normal journalists lost their minds. And they were like, for the sake of our tribe, don't you dare report the news. I was like, huh? That makes no sense to me. But those people are going to vote now. They're going to vote after they're telling me not to report the news.

They're telling others not to report the news. Now you have a bunch of low information people who think they're smarter than everyone. And they're voting. I think there's a xenophobic uh being tinge in the united states that's just it's just prevalent in our culture like i was growing what do you mean by that i was told south america's dangerous i was like oh and so i believed it and then i went to south america in the jungle in in chile where they don't have local police they only have i went there and it's not i mean yeah, yeah, it is. The United States

is great. You know, our local law enforcement is killer. It's the best. It's not the word I should use. Having a local law enforcement protecting you from the federal level or from the state level, from the federal level is amazing. Like in Chile, it's only national cops. So if you mess up one place, the whole country, you're a criminal you don't have local protection but it's not something to fear and unless you go there you wouldn't know that because our whole culture is like don't leave you're safe here so relatively are we are any of us qualified to vote except for the ones that dig deep well i think a lot a lot of people would say no frankly there are people out there who who are very disillusioned and they just want to kind of return to.

I mean, I even I've even seen people like advocate for monarchies right now, like a constitutional monarchy, just because they're so disillusioned with things. I'm not doing that. But yeah, I mean, a lot of people feel the exact same way. They think everyone the system is broken. You know, votes can't be trusted. And even if they could be, do people have enough information to vote it? It's really scary. And there's no good answer. Yeah, there's no perfect system. Because if you get, let's say you have a monarchy and you have a great leader, then the country is going to work really, really well.

But then they have a kid and the kid's a dick. And then the country, you you know doesn't do well or you get you get these ideologues who think they're smarter than the collective you know computational power of the human mind decentralized so like a really good example of that would be like hugo chavez or fidel castro or any other communist where it's like the capitalistic system we have is decentralized um apportionment of resources so you have each individual deciding what they need and when they want it and then people freely trade and the system just operates in a decentralized network the communists think one individual can calculate better than millions of people

centralized system which they can't right and so then everything ends up breaking shortages right red lines so the the key is like i really think the United States is the best form of government we've seen on this planet so far. You have three branches. You've got your monarch in the executive, but there's limits and they have to be voted in. Then you have your direct democracy, which is Congress, which is terrible and everyone hates, but at least it's by region. And then you have the Council of Elders. So it's like three different types of government combined that are constantly yelling at each other. The problem we have is it was impossible for the founding fathers to cover every loophole.

So I was watching this new video by CGP Grey. Do you guys know CGP Grey? Great YouTube channel. And he was talking about the Supreme Court. And it was very nonpartisan. It's very awesome. It was explaining that there's something called a recess appointment, that if Congress is in recess, the president can appoint a Supreme Court justice until they come back to vote. But what they do something called pro forma sessions where they basically walk in and go

all, you know, all rise. There's no one there. OK, we're done for the day. Everyone have a nice day. That way they're still technically in session. So it's clearly a manipulation on what the Constitution was supposed to allow, but it's allowed. So Trump should be able, or Obama should have been able to say Merrick Garland is temporarily being put on the court until Senate comes back and then votes yay or nay. But instead they just come back. It's like every fourth day because you're allowed to recess for three days. You're allowed to take a break for three days. back it's like every every fourth day because you're allowed to recess for three days you're allowed to take a break for three days otherwise it's considered a recess so on the fourth day they come in and they say all duties you know relegated to this individual and then they walk out and then no one shows up yeah so it's clearly broken how we fix it

i don't know have you guys heard of the Initiative? It was a concept to create a fourth branch of government. Mike Gravel, Senator of Alaska, Senator, I think he was. Yeah. So it would make like every state would have a representative, and then each of those representatives would receive data from their constituents, and then they'd be able to pass laws. So it basically would be like the people's version of the legislation, and then we'd be able to pass laws into the Senate. But that's literally what the house is well but it would give the population the ability to write laws send it to the representative and then the national initiative would pass it in that's still technically allowed like i mean nothing's stopping any citizen from sending things to the

representative but then we have to rely on on congress to do it like you say they're corrupt as all get out it's not it's not that they're corrupt uh they are i think they're corrupt yeah yeah but i'm the problem with congress and their low approval is likely due to the fact that if one person represents one district they clearly don't care about all the other districts so if you have like aoc right and she wins and her she did really really well in her primary you got a ton of people in that district who love her everyone else in the country hates her. Not everybody, but the majority. So then what's going to happen is you're going to ask everyone in the country, how do you feel about AOC?

And most of them are going to say, we don't like her. Because she represents one district. So it's very likely that every member of Congress will have a low national approval rating. So then Congress gets an overall really low approval rating. So then Congress gets an overall really low approval rating. We were kind of talking about this before the show, but that's exactly why I'm at least in favor of balkanization, or at the very least, more decentralization. Because I think the way the founding fathers imagined the federal government ruling over all of these different states operating somewhat autonomously was a good idea, right? I think if people in California want to do X, Y, or Z, they should be able to. And if you don't like it, you can move to somewhere more free. But right now, the size of the federal government, I mean, in Canada as well, it's so big that you have these

people in California or in Quebec and Ontario. They vote on legislation that affects everyone in the country. And I don't think that's fair. And I think either let's bring back the concept of city-states or shrink down the federal government and let more of these issues be decided on a local level. So the people who are voting for these laws who want to live under them, they're not affecting the ones who don't. And so would you set up like sunset clauses and all current laws so that. Yeah, I mean, I think it would need to be something like that because otherwise, I mean, they're like the amount of laws that are on the books. It's it's literally an oppressive amount. Yeah. And they never go away. Right.

It's like we have a tendency towards creating more laws and not getting rid of them. Yeah. We talked about this before. There's like ridiculous laws like you can't take a bath on Sundays in Massachusetts or something because it was like back then it made sense. And then they just left it. Yeah. And they just leave it. But then like no one enforces it. Yeah yeah but then you so there's actually something really

interesting i was reading about uh new york there's this funny story where a black cop went to central park and started giving out public drinking tickets to couples having picnics and drinking wine and he got in trouble for it and all these people were like oh harumph like i was drinking wine on my picnic why was i being cited for public intoxication and the cop said because the cops come to my neighborhood and give out tickets to the dudes drinking 40s on their stoop so you want to come to my neighborhood give out tickets i'm going to come to your hood and give out tickets and so apparently he created this like you know fiasco where the cop actually got in trouble which i think is bs because he was totally right yeah he's within his right that's the law yeah he's giving out tickets yeah you

can't have it. You know, we need to qualify under the law. But I started reading about this and it was funny. Apparently, when they banned public drinking in New York, it was because of homeless drunk people and like vagrants. And some politician said, this law will never be construed. Obviously, this law will never be construed to say that a worker couldn't enjoy a beer with their lunch.

And now quite literally, you can't have a beer with their lunch and now quite literally you can't have a beer with your lunch yeah so it's like they write laws thinking we know exactly what the point of this law is then two generations go by and it's like i don't know it says no one's allowed to drink so yeah i mean that's the whole debate over like an originalist versus a textualist um and i i'm not someone who thinks like oh well this literally says this so we can ignore the spirit of the law but that's why i think you you can't really – you can't leave things up to interpretation. I think you should be as specifically clear as possible. And like even this whole debate over the Second Amendment, I mean we know from looking through history what the founding fathers meant.

I mean we have people saying, oh, well, it didn't mean weapons of war. Like, oh, there are merchant ships with cannons actually at the time. Yeah, privateers, man. You've got to your own warship. Exactly. It's pretty obvious what they meant. But because it's not explicitly written enough in these people's opinions, it's up for interpretation. Do you know the original writing of the Second Amendment was much more clear?

It straight up said something to the effect of like, even if you aren't joining any kind of military service, you can still have a gun. Yeah, they should have left it. They should. I wonder. I think they didn't because it would have, I guess, banned conscription. Interesting. And so they, that was something

having to do with it. But the general idea was if somebody doesn't want to join the military, they're still allowed to have guns. Yeah. They get rid of that.

And now the left is going, but it says a well-regulated militia. Yeah. What does regulated mean? What was the original concept? Because I've heard some people say it meant regulated in the sense of

they have weapons that are clean and operable i've read things saying that they were you know the left says it's regulated by the government but the government wasn't that powerful and encompassing back then there was no like you could be off in the middle of the woods there was no regulation over you nothing nothing could be done like regulars were military exactly an advanced form of a military crew i don't know the definition exactly of what it was it was uh so i i've read some arguments that it was a reference to the stats having standard equipment a regulated militia man they all had the same gun if one dropped it you could pick it up and you knew how to use it yeah and so from that reading

it was a militia of people who have guns know how how to use them, and they're up to, you know, they're working and functional is what we need for a free state. Therefore, everyone should be able to have guns. But now they've changed it because the left are, you know, textualists. Like, no, no, regulated today means something different. Oh, so like if you had an AR and I had a pistol, we're not regular. I don't know exactly. No, the argument, like that would be, that would still be. The idea was that you were well equipped. The problem with the textualists

is that this this manipulation of the far left changing definitions is that the Constitution could mean the First Amendment. OK, let's change the definition of religion. And now all of a sudden you've changed the First Amendment. So if you're a textualist and you're going by what it says based on what we interpret the language today, there's no constitution at all. Right. I agree with that. I think isn't Kavanaugh more of a textualist? I don't know.

Yeah, I think I had read that somewhere. But yeah, I mean, I completely agree that that's that's a problem. And it's a slippery thing to do. Yeah, I would say regarding militias that it's important if we were going to like form a militia that we all knew how to use each other's weapons. That's why everyone has standard issue weapons. Well, what do you mean standard issue? In the military. If we were going to form a well-regulated militia, it would be like, I know how to use your weapon.

We're all trained with each other's weapons. In case you go down, I can pick your weapon up and know how to use it and not hurt somebody. I think the general idea of guns is that. That's it. I thought the sentence was just getting started no that was it is that what do you mean is that that's that what it's well i mean so when uh 78 have you ever seen that movie um what you call it the last samurai i think with tom cruise not yeah basically like the the americans go to japan

and they're like with these weapons you can take a random dude and he can press the thing and then boom you blow somebody up it allowed them to have like to lower the cost of training great warriors the samurai had to go through all this training and be the best of the best raised from youth now you just got a gun you know you just cranked a lever and then you get some random dude to do it and you're blowing people up you win but you want to know how to take it apart how to clean it uh not only do it. Look at the McDonald's method. Have you seen the movie The Founder? No. Have you seen The Founder?

No. It's a good movie. It's about the start of McDonald's. Oh, yeah. Basically, the idea was each person in the McDonald's only knew how to do one simple thing. No one person could make the burger. Like assembly line. Exactly.

So it wasn't regulated. Your job is the lettuce your job is the mayo and the mustard you know ketchup is the ketchup and the mustard that's the more efficient way to do that i mean in the military is to a point is like that like you have one guy's the medic yeah you have specialized but everyone trains with the grenade launcher everyone trains with the well to a certain point right i mean there are still specialized role like if you're a radio operator you know the average person isn't gonna be able to do your job like you are right it's like what is, the average person isn't gonna be able to do your job like you are.

It's like, what is it? The Marine Corps, like every marina rifleman or infantryman or something like that. Yeah. Is that it? Everyone is at least a rifleman. Yeah. Well, then, do you think that November 3rd, the United States is going to descend into chaos, fracture into multiple countries, and then, you know, someone's going to fire off the nukes and the world's going to blow up and then we're all dead? Well, you know what? The interesting thing is is because 2020 has been

such a terrible year i mean i i'm ready for 2021 i'm like let's finish it's like a roller coaster man it's fun huh oh i'm tired i'm very tired i'm tired um i i was thinking about this like what what probably will happen is the most disruptive thing and i kind of think the most disruptive thing for a lot of people would be trump winning so i do think that that's going to happen um and i think you know the people on social media will cry there will be riots um you know liberal governors won't accept help as is kind of has been happening all this summer uh but i think life will ultimately go on and actually i mean this is i mean kind of it's pretty dark but i actually get paid in american dollars so a u.s economy being strong exchange rate i mean that benefits me greatly

i get like a little bit of a raise anytime i convert my money oh so so if the american economy does better and better and better yeah it's like you just converted to canadian dollars yeah and then it's just like monopoly money right essentially right but it benefits me yeah so it's like i i don't it's not that i'm wishing our canadian economy is going to keep essentially right but it benefits me yeah yeah so it's like i i don't it's not that i'm wishing our canadian economy is going to keep getting worse but it's i think it is an objective fact that is i i'm worried i really am because we just we saw this video um these videos of people fighting the trump rallies like trump supporters will have a rally and then you know the far left shows up and then we had more riots in seattle and portland just last

night it's not stopping it's it's 130 days. And but I think all of this helps Trump. And I think the average, yeah, the average suburbanite is seeing this stuff and they're getting worried. But then you have mail-in voting completely broken. So it was funny, like somebody was tweeting me like it's like tweeting trying to drag me because I made a video saying that bunk ballots sent out in mass prove the Democrats have corrupted the election. And I'm like, first of all, it's my opinion. But I think it's a fair opinion because the Democrats are the one who have called for mail-in voting endlessly, tried jamming it through these COVID relief bills. And then in Brooklyn, 100,000 ballots are incorrectly labeled and named.

So I'm like, yes, they have corrupted the election. That's like they literally did. OK, it's my opinion. Sure, fine. the election that's like they literally did okay it's my opinion sure fine but you can say in a factual sense corrupted meaning to like it's like you know breaking it down causing it to fall apart and they did it was their calls for this and it was in brooklyn that's democrats but i guess the the better i mean the the brighter side of that whole argument is that they've been able to shove these mail-in voting initiatives in already Democrat states.

Right. So does it matter? Swing states. Yeah. Michigan. They've done it in Michigan. So those are the areas where you'd need to worry. But I mean, extra ones in Brooklyn isn't really a big deal.

It's only the swing states you need to worry about. It's actually really bad for them. It's good for Trump because New York is where the Democrats get their popular vote totals. So if they're like sacrificing themselves in California and New York, which they're doing, Trump's going to win the popular vote because of them. Yeah. So it'll be interesting because Washington Post reported this, and this is very obvious. The demographic voting blocs that suffer the most under mail-in voting, minorities and young people. Really?

Yeah. Why is that? People who are less likely to have experience voting and may need help so because you have older white voters who are familiar with voting and vote often they don't need help young people first-time voters do need help and marginalized or disenfranchised voters people who haven't you know been voting consistently don't have the they're not going to have the help so what happens is they get their ballot. They do one tiny thing wrong and into the gutter. Right. So guess who's going to be benefited?

Trump. Yeah. In that case. Yep. Absolutely. Unless, of course, Trump really is winning the Latino and the black vote, which if according to NBC, if Trump just gets a tiny percentage, a couple single digits from both voter blocks, he won't.

I guess we'll see what happens. But how about we take some super chats? We have some great comments and questions. I hope you're excited. If you haven't already, smash the like button because I see there's a lot of people hanging out. And thank you all so much for your super chats. We have this year's super chat from Jay Mac.

He says, oh, no, Tim is hosting avowed half Asian white supremacist Lauren Chen. I joke. I joke. My wife has been watching a lot of Lauren's podcast clips, and I think Lauren Chen. I joke, I joke. My wife and my wife has been watching a lot of Lauren's podcast clips. And I think she's now more conservative than I am. I appreciate her perspective. Oh, thank you. Hey, by the way, Lauren, what is your YouTube channel? Oh, right. My YouTube channel is just Lauren Chen. If you type that in, may or may not show up. But we also have we're also on all the audio only platform. So iTunes, Spotify, Google Play,

I think that's more a more reliable notification system. YouTube doesn't always send them out. But yeah, we post three times a week. Right on. Let's see. Dan Rouse says, Lauren, why no pigtails?

Love the show. Love Lauren's show on The Blaze. Keep it up. Oh, thanks. Yeah, I've worn pigtails several times. I did a Harley Quinn, like Birds of Prey review, and I kind of like did the pigtail

things for them. Awesome. But, I mean, a lot of people liked them, but what they also need to realize is that I'm 26. Come on. We got this. Yeah, I don't know if I can still get away with that look as much. You can pull it off.

If I can pull it off, you can pull it off. I'm sorry to interrupt. Come on. You got to do it now. Project Utopian says, would love to hear from all of you. Do you honestly believe in your heart of hearts that Biden, the Democrats will win in November, December, January, or whenever they want to stop counting? Is it war if Biden wins?

I don't think it's war if Biden wins. I don't think like conservatives are going to go out and smash and break things. I think there are conservatives who will be like, I'm moving to a slightly more red state. But I think, you know, life will continue. But what happens, I think, I think if Biden wins, it'll be this the slow erosion of the country. Yeah, I mean, but that's already happening, even with Trump. No, Trump's brought back manufacturing.

Trump's secured the borders. Trump's lowered unemployment. The economy has been doing better. Right. But I mean, look at the cultural decay, right? I mean, look at the next generation. Maybe he's you could say he's postponed it. But look at look at millennials, right? Just look at our generation. There's argument. I mean, look at the cultural decay, right? I mean, look at the next generation. Maybe he's you could say he's postponed it. But look at look at millennials, right?

Just look at our generation. There's argument. I mean, so awful. They're so awful. And Gen Z, I mean, you got some pretty based ones, but like they are more radical in a lot of ways. And, you know, conservatives, you can say like, oh, well, we got Trump. It's OK.

It's like, no, it's not. The left has the education system. Progressives have completely had to have a stranglehold on most major institutions. You're delaying the inevitable. I don't mean to black pill people, but that's what I think at least. You know, election night 2016, I threw my arms in the air and it was a super slow-mo. I was ready for Hillary to win. I was like just ready to throw my arms in the air.

And it's still this long. No, I was ready for it. I thought Hillary had it in the bag. But were you happy? No. What do you mean in general? You thought throwing your hands in the air and celebration. Like I long no i was ready for it i thought hillary had it in the bag but were you happy no no what do you mean in general throwing your hands in the air it's like i give up like i was about to give up no no but it's been a super slow motion give up for the last four years and if biden wins it's just gonna happen yeah like what else are we gonna do get a hang glider if uh we should probably get hang gliders yes yeah it's a good idea i don't think he has any chance any any chance of winning.

None. And I think all these polls are lies. I think they're specifically picking either segments of people or that people are lying when they do it. Like Trump supporters are trolling the polls. One of my friends did say that she got called up and she, I mean, I don't want to say that she lied, but she didn't feel comfortable saying

that she was voting for Trump. Yeah. And I think a lot of people might feel the same yeah yeah because they know they're like hi ian are you voting for our lord and savior joe biden database yes you're on a list now i have some friends here who are very interested to visit you should you vote for i don't know what's going to happen. What do you think? Oh, me? Yeah. I don't think Biden's going to win.

But at this point, I really don't know. There have been so many black swans. This is the year of the black swan. I have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow. Who knows what happens next week? I know. Seriously. A month is like 27 years in 2020. I feel like I'm 75 years old.

I know. Yeah. At least time has slowed down for all us old people, you know? Yeah. Like it's boring and routine and then just like days speed by. Now it's like every day is a week. Pretty much. It's like what happened today in the morning? You know, Trump caught COVID and

three days later Trump's cured of COVID and then he was faking it. Then he was gonna die, but now he's alive again. It's crazy. It's great. What do you think um i would say that in my heart of hearts it look i i can't believe trump would not win i can't i can't because like i was mentioning with jack murphy said the conditions that brought trump about are only worse yeah so more people are going to be like trump it's also possible that the democrats sending out these bunk

mail-in ballots are going to cheat they're're like, they're just, some people are getting like eight ballots in D.C. All these tweets are coming out where they're like, look, I got a stack of ballots. So what's going to happen, like we saw with Project Veritas and the people in Minneapolis, people are going to go to mailbox to mailbox grabbing all of the stacks of ballots, and then they're going to have someone cheat. No, I've heard from leftist Twitter that A, that is a conspiracy theory, but B b even if it did happen that's legal yeah so it's both of those things those things are true we'll have to

fill out the ballots but sure yeah yeah man all right let's see aaron says hey tim you and adam encouraged us to speak out so i started an audio podcast can i get a shout out for into the fray cover art says what what's next there you go shout out into the fray podcast saga fraga says hey tim michigan they're here faith in trump even if the unexpected happens be prepared we survived eight years of obama but trump is a beast also you should start a gaming segment get away from the news i just beat that goose game oh which have you ever seen it it's the best game ever you play as a goose and your goal is to harass the townspeople. That's just about it.

And you can honk and flap your wings, and then you just steal their stuff, and they chase you, and then they fall down. It's just so good. I love it. I think you should stream Spelunky 2. Oh, no. You should see Tim playing Spelunky 2, dude. I'm really disappointed.

Because it is so hard. It's not that it's... Oh, that'd be entertaining. I wouldn't say that it's so hard. It's that it's chaotic... Oh, that'd be entertaining. I wouldn't say that it's so hard. It's that it's chaotic. That's what I was saying. It's chaotic. Chaotic evil.

Like, there's procedural generation error, in my opinion, poorly designed gameplay, where if you don't have any arrows or bombs, you quite literally can't pass the level. So I'm, like, playing the game, and I'm like, well, that's it. And then I have to restart. You're not the only one with that criticism. But, like, why would they design a game to where it's like the level starts and you're like... You can beat it. You can do it.

And they want to see it. They want to see you stream it. Yeah, but it should be based on every time you play the game, it's new. It's different. And you can always beat the game so long as you play right. But they've quite literally made a game where it's like, oh, sorry, not this one. We made it so there's a wall in front of you, but you have no bombs so i've been playing it and there are certain there are areas where it's like you literally have to have rope but then you use them up really fast and then you'll get a level where

it's like oh no rope you lose so it's like a kobayashi maru type of i think i think i think covid caused problems for for development for a ton of games and they just they were like it got delayed and they published it but uh generally the game is procedurally generated so it's like every level is just a mix of different objects so there are areas where it's like can't get past that it's not that bad but okay but they're like there have been instances where that's happened and i'm starting to learn the like where stuff's gonna jump out you can tell now no that's not the issue the issue is that's literally like i'll be playing i'll be like oh there you go game over and i'll just like turn it off. That would be entertaining.

I was like, wow, that was amazing. I can't even go past this level. No bombs, no ropes. I don't think you realize how entertaining that would be. Watching the frustration of like the game got. Yeah. Yeah. But for the most part, it's definitely more difficult than the first one.

Can't be done without swearing. It's just more chaotic. All right. Let's see. Bioethics says, I support Lauren Chen. Great guest, Tim. Oh, yeah. Lauren's great.

Shepperton Studio says, you gave my dog Shep a shout out during the Battle of Berkeley. Can you do it again and say, Shep is the best bubber? Yes. Thanks, Tim. Dog right. Awesome. All right. Let's see.

We got a bunch of big ones. Nathan Abraham says, I love you, Lauren and Tim. Two honest people in a world of dishonesty. Never give up. Never, never, never. Those words seem to matter just as much today as it did 75 years ago. Peace and love to all patriots on any side. Peace and free speech without repercussion.

Thomas Sloat says, Trump said that the government will cover the cost of each COVID death. That is the incentive for every hospital and insurance company to claim more COVID deaths. And then why would he do it? That's weird. Randy says, when things go back to normal, would you be interested in doing a Docentory-esque video documentary? On the HEMA community.

What is that? I don't know. One easy place to get footage is the Lafayette Historical Fencing Academy. I don't know what that is. I will have to look at it. Yes. HEMA. Christopher Scott says, keep up the great work with Stay on the truth with no spin honestly you should have a podcast i'll think about it jamie roll says thank you for the excellent work tim have you taken time out of your 16 hour workday to train with your pew pew

i have not unfortunately so there's a uh here we go darren says awesome seeing lauren on here please get matt blonde and sticks next oh love love and blonde especially they're great yeah we we want to that'd be awesome hey regarding your pew pew you have been training with the bow oh yeah definitely that's fun he's been going back and forth like moving shooting at it with we got these targets out in the backyard yeah so i've i've we've got targets and i've got a compound bow and i don't i think i'm doing it all wrong for sure because i have no idea what i'm doing i took an archery class in college it was one of the like gym electives and i don't i think i'm doing it all wrong for sure because i have no idea what i'm doing i took an archery class in college it was one of the like gym electives and i don't know like yeah it was amazing it was like really easy but i found out i have no back muscles like zero what you need for it or something yeah yeah because i would get sore here and i apparently i've never used those

muscles in my life but we were just using recurve bows but it's a good skill to have so i have uh i've been using a compound bow and i think the draw weight is like 60 pounds would not be able to like i couldn't i don't think it's 60 i think i think i've set it lower than that for sure to like 40 or 50 it's probably like 50 i don't know maybe not but uh so i've been like walking elevated and i've been moving and firing and i've actually been getting i don't want to put on like i'm like hitting bullseyes or anything but i'm hitting the target and i've been it's just fun i just walk out on the deck and i've actually been getting i don't want to pretend like i'm like hitting bullseyes or anything but i'm hitting the target and i've been it's just fun i just walk out on the deck and i've got all these targets set up and then i just fire the other day i was really proud because i hit six

bullseyes in a row so but but uh yeah i told you this yeah so we've got we've got uh one on top and then two on the bottom and so what i did was each box has a top right top left middle and bottom right and i went top right top left center top right top left center and then and then i started getting tired and missing but i got those six hit them perfectly and i was like yes and then i started getting tired 100 feet or something uh 100 feet maybe is that how far we have set up seems like how far it is they're pretty far yeah it's not it's not yeah maybe it's farther than i realized adam brought gloves oh right on somebody fired a broadhead at our targets and i don't know who other than you it must have been adam i know and it's like i haven't fired i did it too but it's gonna chop up the targets you're not supposed to but it was a spiral one it's really cool it spins

you know anyway yeah so not training with the uh the guns but uh i guess we can you know we're on we're we're we're on hunting ground so we actually are able to we have like i mentioned this before i called it a sniper tower and then it's like hunters messaged me they're laughing because it's just like what is it called like a deer blind i guess oh yeah blind but it's like elevated and then we actually have another like hunting shack deer blind i guess you can go inside and they have like you know you can stick your gun out so we're on we're on ground there's like gunshots going off all the time people just shooting yeah all right let's see where are we at let's uh let's grab some here super chats the civic nationalist says as a as Briton, the Queen has absolute power.

She delegates her powers to Parliament. Most British people don't care if the Queen steps in. Some have been calling for it. If the Queen wants to, she can assume direct control. God save the Queen. I think she should. I think that's a terrible idea. I hate the monarchy.

Really? Why? I don't know. Why would you ever want to cede power to an individual that's a good point you know and it could be a slippery slope of you know they're moving away from the monarch having a lot of the control but considering that i don't know the arrested count dankula for making a joke i kind of like to see them say hey man jokes and free speech are allowed but it's probably never gonna happen yeah i mean i think if the queen were to step in in order to protect and enforce civil rights people would probably support it right it depends i mean if she was like seizing power to install some sort of oppressive system it'd be different but if she was doing it for the

right reasons i think people would support it yeah the african says yo washingtonian here yeah inslee's completely destroying our manufacturing base and he has the balls to demand they come back when the market recovers that was amazing i laughed out loud so did you see any of this yeah i did see i saw him tweet about like or a post about coming back i didn't know what it was in reference to though i was like i can't believe he's like you'll you'll be back well you better come back it's like no dude they left your state your state's busted okay it's like all of these governors begging people to come back like cuomo's done it too. Yeah. California, I'm sure, is not far behind.

I love how Cuomo was like, please, rich people, don't leave. We need your money. And then Bill de Blasio was like, good riddance. I thought it was hilarious. Such teamwork. It's really funny now that New Yorkers are fleeing. Mostly the wealthy. So the tax base is eroding. Because it's actually, you mentioned net taxpayers earlier.

People don't realize the net taxpayers are actually like the top 10 of the country right a lot a lot of people don't know that it is the top 10 that pay the vast vast majority of the taxes i mean a lot of people are under the assumption that like they hear stuff about the trump story they're like oh teachers pay more like no what they don't realize is that there was a i was reading i was reading a study and i don't have it pulled up so fact check me but uh it was basically saying that all of the net benefits a citizen receives, you'd have to pay something like $100,000 in taxes per year to actually break even. Because the roads, services, clean water, services in terms of the fire department, the police department. Then you have health inspection, all of these things, your taxes don't cover on average. It's the rich people paying that covers the excess.

So that's net taxpayer. And then is it the very top percent or half percent or quarter percent that doesn't pay anything or something? No, I mean, I've not seen anything like that. Are we talking about income tax? I don't know. So here's- Trump paid $750 a year because he's writing off losses.

That's not true, though. He's writing off losses. He paid $750 a year because he's writing off losses. That's not true, though. He's writing off losses. He paid $5.2 million. But he overpaid $5.1994 of it. Yeah. So he only owed $750. Because he lost $500 million. Because he wrote off losses.

But do you think people who have net losses should have to pay income tax? No, but that's just the way this... I mean, legally, no no but i mean but like realistically i don't know that you know the problem is i see here is that trump lives like a king but he loses hundreds of millions of dollars so it's like this paradox of he's losing money but he still has more money than you yeah i mean so it's like a weird situation yeah because like the way the income tax works it's how much money you've lost or made per that year. It's not a wealth tax. So he could still have a lot of money from previous years or ventures.

But if he lost money that year, he's not going to pay. Well, what I mean is that he made $447 million in revenue and then his expenses were $500 and something. Right. So when that revenue comes in, it's a weird circumstance. The losses aren't hard like it's depreciation. Yeah. So he does make millions of dollars. His losses are a combination of actual hard expenses and depreciation of property.

I don't know what the solution is, though. Simply because Trump's on top, you're looking at an extreme case. So they're like, Trump should be paying more in taxes. And it's like, but if you change the rules for him, it affects you. Right. So it's like the only issue, I the rules for him, it affects you. Right. So it's like the only issue, I guess, is that Trump has too much. That's their problem. Right.

But I mean, when it comes to the New York Times report, at least they did mention that he did pay like, you know, the payroll tax and all these other types of taxes. So it's not that he's not paying anything save $750. Like that's still not the case. Yeah. And that's what's funny, too, is when they say he didn't pay any taxes, it's like you're talking about still not the case. Yeah. And that's what's funny too is when they say he didn't pay any taxes, it's like you're talking about income tax, right? Yeah. Because when it comes to all other taxes, property, payroll, Medicare, all that stuff, all the limits,

he pays everything. Same thing is true with Amazon. They're like Amazon paid no taxes. Actually, they paid like billions. Corporate income tax, they didn't though. But they're also one of those companies that actually they're net losing it wasn't that the thing it's a combination of losses plus the r&d write-offs that they do right so the company loses but the ceo is worth 160 billion or something you know this company loses money so he doesn't have to pay income tax no jeff bezos pays income tax his salary is only uh 83 000 a year yeah he pays income tax on His salary is only $83,000 a year. Yeah. So he pays income tax on that. Yeah. And then he has bonuses that total up to like a net value of like a million bucks.

Yeah. And a lot of his worth is the amount of the value of Amazon shares that he has. So that's not something – it's not like he has billions of dollars under his mattress. It's not liquid at all. Yeah. It's not liquid. So that's why wealth taxes don't make sense. Right.

Because you can't tax a hard asset that can't – it's paper value. So that's why wealth taxes don't make sense. Right. Because you can't tax a hard asset. It's paper value. So he's worth all this. He can't sell until contract conditions are met, and then he gets a payout of a certain amount of money. So they want to tax him on these assets that you can't do anything with. So if he was to sell, then he would have to pay taxes on the sale? He can't sell them. Like if he had sold some of his stock.

He can't. Oh, he's not allowed? So the way it works, I think, for Amazon is that under certain conditions, they allow him to sell. So when a certain target is reached, then he was able to sell off a certain amount in exchange for a certain amount. And pay taxes on the sale. And then pay taxes on the income that comes through and stuff like that. It's a system built by rich people for rich people. I definitely think so, for sure.

Yeah, absolutely. And that's why the Gravel Institute – I will say this about the Gravel people is that I don't like that they try to be so mean. And I can say that's true for a lot of conservatives too. If you want to argue against PragerU, you saw what they're doing, right? Oh, yeah. We did a video on it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they got H. John Benjamin,, you saw what they're doing, right? Oh, yeah. We did a video on it. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, they got H. John Benjamin, which is sad. Right, right, right. So they're like, we're going to counter PragerU. But they say like, PragerU is lying. And it's lies. And then they insult them. And I'm like, you don't need to do that. You don't need to.

That sullies your brand. Just make your videos rebutting and giving your argument. Because they put out a video that said, is big government really the problem? I thought it was a great video. Yeah, they fudged a lot of the numbers there. For sure. I disagree with a lot of their premise. But I like that they said Democrats and Republicans don't work for you.

They're working for the ultra elites and the rich people. And then they give you their argument. And then you can say, I agree or disagree. But as long as we all agree that the crony establishment politicians don't actually care about any of us, we're making good ground. But actually, you know who doesn't apparently agree with that is Soledad O'Brien. So she's a reporter that I used to think was like really, you know, unbiased and fair. But she's got TDS now.

And did you guys see Chris Rock's opening monologue for Saturday Night Live? Well, he went on this whole spiel about how he wants term limits because he kind of says we we rejected kings in america but we have this class of dukes and duchesses going over us which i'm like yeah i i agree with that term limits and stuff like that and so that or brian is just like no this is like just no like what is what is the non-swamp establishment reason for opposing term limits you lose rand paul and yeah that's the only thing but what you'd lose a lot of other people and I think the games the other issue is that seniority in Congress determines a lot of what you can and can't do so if we had term limits you'd have a whole bunch of inexperienced people randomly being in charge of committees and not understanding how they work well you're you'd

be assuming that like they would all be kind of like coming and leaving at the same time, which isn't necessarily the case, right? No, but – So it's like if you have, let's say, five – okay, five election cycle limit in Congress. So that would be like, I don't know, 10 years in the House. That's still, I think, enough seniority to be able to manage a committee. Yeah. I guess it's a bigger issue of how many terms. Yeah.

So maybe five. Which is something that is definitely up for debate but i mean to just say no 30 50 years in you're like totally fine don't see any problem with that maybe maybe the maybe something that i haven't heard proposed before is longer terms and hard hard limit so like instead of saying five terms for 10 years we say two terms for 10 years so that's kind of like what the Senate is doing. Like, I mean, like they have the longer. Yeah, because I see, I guess, I guess it's why we have it different. The Congress will have, but the problem is fundraising.

And that's the big problem with all of these politicians is all they care about is who's going to pay the bills to get them elected. And that's why they don't care about regular people. So one of the things Gravel Institute brought up is that there's actually a study that shows this regular people have zero impact on policy. It's only the wealthy industry and individuals and lobbyists who actually can sway politicians' opinions. So they found, like, the polling of public opinion had no effect on whether or not a politician would support or oppose a certain bill. That's messed up to me.

This is great. Mike Gravel is the guy who came up with that national initiative. That's awesome. Yeah, I think the Gravel people people are cool i just wish they would uh i don't agree with everything they say i just wish they weren't if they i wish they were taking the higher road and not doing the snarky insulting yeah i mean the uh i guess you're i think so far the only full video they have is by brianna joy gray who will use a former bernie person but i mean in that video arguing for big government they fudge a lot of the numbers for sure yeah which is like but my point is just like but that video was it i didn't

find it it's not disrespect for anything it's very respectable in terms of yeah and that's why i'm like good good make your arguments and do it in a way where you're like hey here's what we think no beef and i'll be like right on man let me let me go through this and see what i agree with yeah but you know because we have too much on twitter is just I hate you, you hate me. F you. Yeah, exactly. I really like your idea of longer terms and like two of them because then they're not going to spend the whole two years. Fundraising.

Trying to campaign. But the senators are six years, right? Yeah. Yeah. Six years for senators, two years for representatives, four for president, lifetime for Supreme Court. We got a question for you from a canadian from gabriel rip uh rybidge sorry man i can't probably not pronouncing your name right he says hey lauren as a fellow canadian i was wondering what you thought of trudeau's gun ban of may 1st 2020 i was part of the ccfr's rally on september 12th

protesting against the order in council we had easily 5 000 people or more cbc said we were only 800 classic media spin tactics yeah i mean the the gun laws in canada are disgusting the self-defense or lack of self-defense laws in canada are disgusting the cbc is disgusting we have state-funded media in canada who surprise surprise are very in favor and biased toward the party that wants to give them a lot of funding yeah there we go that's what we're just talking about very swampy very gross let's see swork witch says the movie was made by someone who in interview said she she wouldn't read the book oh uh starship troopers because it's fascist and set up to make a movie mocking and denouncing the book in the book service was not only military military tiny just dangerous so has no meaning interesting you. Can you read that again? Someone said it was

fascist? Yeah, the person who made the movie said the book was fascist. Interesting. That's where I got that from. Without reading it. I've never read the book, no. What's Doogie Houser's name? Neil Patrick Harris? Is that it? He hates it when people call him Doogie Houser. Carl. I think he's Carl in the movie.

I love that movie. But they make his uniform look like a Nazi uniform. Yes. It's so dumb. Yeah, they really make the fascism stand Carl in the movie. I love that movie. But they make his uniform look like a Nazi uniform. Yes. It's so dumb. Yeah, they really make the fascism stand out in that movie. Jason Freeland says anyone could demand service in the book, even disabled. The government had to come up with something that you could do to allow you to serve. Wow. When you guys say service gives citizenship, do you mean service lets you vote or service lets you become an American citizen?

So there were civilians and there were citizens civilians had all rights but didn't vote and citizens voted so everyone's born a civilian and you can become a citizen yeah you have to earn the right i believe so seamus uh maulane says i'm probably pronouncing your last name wrong in the book starship trooper as citizens could be uh citizenship could be gotten via non-military service however they made it suck because you were supposed to show a willing to sacrifice for the group benefit versus yourself. Interesting. So someone else says any federal service equals citizenship, but only after service was completed. That way, only those who demonstrated willingness to sacrifice for good of others would be given the right to vote.

That's really cool. I like that idea. Politically Defiant says, hey, Tim, Lauren, Ian, Lydia, thank you for everything you to vote. That's really cool. I like that idea. Politically Defiant says, Hey Tim, Lauren, Ian, Lydia, thank you for everything you guys do. You're all goats. Shout out to the parental units for reaching their goals of retirement before 60 and 34 year wedding anniversary today. Love you lots.

Nice job. Congratulations. That's great. That's huge. Alright, let's see. Actually, Liam and my four year is coming up this week. Congrats. You guys doing anything? Actually, Liam and my four-year is coming up this week. Oh, wow. You guys doing anything? Actually, they just closed restaurants where we live. Oh, congratulations.

So, no. I mean, we may have a nice evening of Netflix and takeout. It's so crazy that they're escalating it. Yeah. And actually, I might also have to work. But it's funny. He told me I was eating a muffin maliciously the other day. Maliciously like looking and i'm like tearing into it yeah well yeah so i i don't know what that's about but yeah four years yeah good times sean carter says just want to say hi tim

and crew i listened to many of your videos and appreciate your views i moved deep into the appalachian mountains best thing ever guns. Guns, ammo, food, and big dogs. That sounds awesome. Oh, what kind of big dogs? Dogs are great. Let's see. Bacolic Buffalo says, Robert Barnes explained Trump taxes he paid through the year, and his balance was $7.50.

Interesting. Let's see. Jalen Goliday says, Can we get a fourth channel Tim Guns? I don't know. Don't ask me the name. We're doing a vlog. We're going to be doing the vlog for the house. We're going to be doing the vlog for that.

We're just talking about today. Yeah, we'll be guns involved. Man, I'm excited for that channel. We just got a 20 foot inflatable projector screen that you just like, you turn the pump on and then it fills up and then you like put like stakes in the ground and then you put it outside and we can watch like movie theater. So the movie theaters are all going out of business. You know, Regal announced they're like shutting all stores amc is suing jersey

and so uh we're gonna have our own 20 foot screen 4k you know and we're gonna watch movies i guess the future is now yeah yeah i think we're uh yeah yeah yeah so um assuming the lockdown doesn't you know come for us whatever because you can't have parties i guess all right let's see level 99 mastermind, to what extent should the media be held responsible for what they do? They are definitely playing a serious role in pushing large swaths of people over the edge to the point of mass civil unrest through deliberate disinformation. True.

First Amendment, man, I don't know. Well, I mean, I don't like the idea of prosecuting journalists. That's not a good look. But, I mean, let's take the Nick Sandman case, for instance. I think that's a a better way to hold journalists accountable like if you can demonstrably prove that you know so-and-so person committed libel or slander i think there's grounds for civil recourse and then hopefully the financial incentive will be there for them to not randomly label people like white nationalists the issue i

think is that we have this ruling called times v. Sullivan, where it's basically you have to prove when it comes to public figures that they actually knew they were lying. And the challenge then is there's also anti-SLAPP laws, strategic lawsuits against public participation. So what happens is New York Times will say, you know, Lauren Chen is a Nazi or something. And you'll say that's not true. They'll first go, it's an opinion. And then dismissed. Anti-slap. Knock it down.

Well, for the Nick Sandman thing, I mean, they were saying that he had, for example, done things that he hadn't. Like he had approached the guy or whatever. And that's like, that's not an opinion thing. That's a fact. So all of, most of the claims made by Sandman were dropped, except for they, like the outlet said that he blocked his path. Right.

And so the judge ruled, well, that's a statement of fact. And so the challenge then, because they've determined there is a false statement of fact, it could potentially go to discovery where these news outlets then have to produce emails and correspondence between their employees as to what they were talking about so that Sandman and his lawyers can determine whether or not they knew what they were saying was false. They immediately settled. Right.

You know why? Their credibility. I've been in these chat rooms with journalists like this. The things they say, if you only knew. Of course, they have opinions. Of course, they're all far left activists. Not OK. Not every single one of them, but a lot of them in these chat rooms and the ones who

aren't probably don't say anything out of fear of being ostracized or fired or whatever. So could you imagine if The Washington Post, the new york times cnn and these news outlets had their internal like slack logs released because they were like we never knew then they would we would see they were all really done they'd be released in discovery and they'd be exposed well it would go to the lawyers and then to what extent they could release it i don't know but they probably start talking about it sounds like like James O'Keefe has another... Another project. What do you guys think about the phenomena of news organizations

releasing a story, getting ad revenue on it, and then having to make a retraction, but not... Then the retraction also gets ad revenue. And no one sees the retraction. Like, I've seen stuff like that. The original story, like, 100,000 likes, whatever. Correction, 4,000 likes.

That's not the issue, though. That is an issue. They're still making money off of it. Exactly. They make money on the fake article, and then when they apologize, they make money on the apology. So how would we rectify something like that? Hold the ad revenue for news organizations?

They have a first amendment right to say whatever they want. Well, within certain confines. You can't incite violence. But you can lie. You can't lie about someone but i could i could make a post all day saying the sky is red right like don't at me yeah but ablam b i mean it's basically right exactly so you know if if lying was not protected then you'd have no satire articles because it's meant to be jokes but whether or not someone believes it is a different

story so we got this uh this really great super chat wait hang on what was in terms of like the whole like oh this is an opinion what who was it majid nawaz didn't he win a huge settlement from the southern they made a ton of crazy statements about him so it's like but i think that he should he should have got that like you can't oh yeah totally you want like what three million dollars yeah something like that dollars yep and then they fired all their you know executive structure at the splc yeah man they they once the splc once claimed that i went to iran for a holocaust deniers conference and the best part was i've never been to iran for one thing but their source was not they had a website it was a holocaust denier conspiracy theory website

but the best part was it wasn't just that it was a holocaust denier conspiracy theory website but the best part was it wasn't just that it was a website but the website itself had been deleted and they found an archived version of it to use as their source to claim i had personally traveled to iran for a holocaust i'm just like wow that is like at least the moonland hoax people actually look at real photographs and say here's what i think about this photograph. Yeah. They straight up like went to a conspiracy theorist website that didn't even exist anymore. Did you sue? So they also defamed several other people. And it resulted in an immediate retraction and apology, like within a couple days.

So they smeared a bunch of lefties as like right wing, far right or alt right. And then you immediately had like these people are just obviously left wing, like some of these people that were getting smeared. And then they issued this big apology. They were like, oh, we were just trying to say that there are certain elements of the left that share the same ideology as the right. And we're so sorry. And they weasel worded their way out of it.

But they issued a direct apology to me and said I was left wing. Isn't that funny? They had to say I was left-wing. I love that. Because they went nuts. So I'm like, whenever someone tries claiming I'm right-wing, I'm like, oh, the SPLC said I was left-wing. They did. And they're the source, right?

All right, here we go. Top Dog says, this may have been the best episode I have seen so far. Lauren is engaged, smart, and quick-witted. Please have her on more often. Yes. Yes. But you have your own show what's your what's your youtube it is pseudo intellectual with lauren chin is the show because i am lauren chin uh the youtube channel is lauren chin we publish everything on there we're also on blaze tv but you can find all of our stuff on youtube and like i was saying the audio only platforms are what we're trying to push now a little bit

more reliable i can spot Spotify, Google Play. Yep, yep. Well, with that being said, it is now 20 minutes past. Before anything, I wanted to, along the lines of how cool Lauren is, she brought us some soap

and I wanted to shout it out. It's called Clearly Pure. What are you trying to say about us, Lauren? Yeah, I'm saying that you need soap. Yeah. She brought, these are three different kinds. And she gave it to Ian specifically. No, I gave it to you. First, I'm kidding. you need soap. Yeah. She bought, these are three different kinds. And she gave it to Ian specifically.

No, I gave it to you. Oh, you did. First the kiss. I'm kidding. Guinness Birch. Is that what this is? Yeah, it's made with actual Guinness. Which my dad and fiance say is a very big waste.

But the hops is actually a big waste. I love it. It smells amazing. This looks like, what is this? A turmeric and nettle cleanse. That sounds like it's right up your alley. Yeah, I love turmeric. I put it in my coffee. And a salt.

Is that what that says? Tough on germs. This is lemongrass, tea tree, and eucalyptus. Liam actually was the brains behind that because he wanted something for, he does MMA and they use a special soap to prevent against staph infections. So we made a natural equivalent with essential oils and stuff.

Oh, wow. Wait, you made that? Oh, when I say I do the graphic design for that, my mom is the one who makes all the products. Oh, whoa. Yeah, we have a family business. Yeah, isn't that cool? So sweet.

Can people get this? Yeah, they can get it online. And actually, my dad's been having health issues, so Liam's been such a sweetie. He was actually at the market with me selling last weekend. Wow. What's the website? Clearly pure.com.

All right. Thank you so much. Is it spelled P U R? Is that it? P U R because it's trendy and millennial. Oh, that's right. Yeah.

Just like you. Cool. There you go. I didn't realize we'd shout out your own soap company, but that's really awesome. Thank you. Sweet. Amazing.

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Two different channels. And you can also, of course, follow at Ian Crossland. Yes. Follow me on YouTube. I just started. I made another video, a behind-the-scenes video of my rig, my gaming rig downstairs. Cool. And you can follow me on Twitter.

Are you going to play some Goose game? Streaming Goose? I don't think so. I want to play it. It's just not hot action enough. No, it's the best. You're a goose and you're running from a dude because you stole his keys and he trips and falls. It's amazing. It is pretty funny. Yeah. And also, you're running from a dude because you stole his keys and he trips and falls. It's amazing.

It is pretty funny looking. Yeah. And also, you can follow at Sour Patch Lids. Yes, you can. I'm over here. Sour Patch Lids on Twitter. And that's with an L-Y-D-S. That's my name.

So, yeah, we do the show Monday through Friday live at 8 p.m. So what's today? Monday. We'll have clips up throughout the day tomorrow. Yep. We have another awesome guest coming tomorrow. We're going to have a lot of really cool conversations with some people. We're going to have a big week. It's going to be pretty crazy. We might get in trouble with some of coming tomorrow we're gonna have a lot of really cool conversations with some people we're gonna have a we're gonna have a big week it's gonna be pretty

crazy we might get in trouble with some of the people we're bringing because it's gonna be uh it's gonna get spicy but but i'm no longer gonna be announcing because we've had like cancellations and it's a huge letdown wait oh oh not that they were like goaded into canceling or okay yeah like oh i missed my flight i can't come and i'm like oh okay okay so we'll probably just yeah covid's been really making it difficult anyway everybody thank you all so much for hanging out this was this was a really really awesome awesome show lauren thanks so much for for hanging out as well yeah thank you so much for having me and guys like they are the best hosts like they picked me up at the airport i mean they're so nice usually people if i'm if i'm like going on a show or something it's like have fun with your uber and like your hotel like

we'll just catch you during the thing but like you guys are so hospitable I never appreciate it that's one thing I don't like where it's like when I've been booked for shows they'll be like here's your flight and then I have no communication with any of the people yeah and then it's like just show up the day of a car pulls up to the hotel and they're like we're taking you I'm like where when what's going on like so I just get in his car and then like they drop you off the studio I'm like where's the door to get in yeah no and then you

figure it out you know but anyway hey thanks for hanging out and yeah well you're you're always welcome so to everybody else smash the like button on your way out subscribe notification

all the good stuff and we will see you tomorrow at 8 p.m. live bye guys Thank you..