Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #149 - Biden Email Leak Triggers Democrat Panic, Big Tech Is Cheating To Help Biden, Jack Murphy Guests

Episode Date: October 15, 2020

Tim, Ian, Lydia, and regular Jack Murphy (@JackMurphyLive on Twitter, YouTube) go over the day's breaking news concerning Joe Biden, Hunter Biden's sordid history, corruption in politics, corruption in media, corruption at every level and what it means for the 2020 election.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This morning I woke up, I read the news, and one of the first things I saw was a picture of Joe Biden's son, apparently, laying in bed with a crack pipe in his mouth. And I thought to myself, well, that looks like Joe Biden's son with a crack pipe in his mouth. It's going to be a very interesting day. There was a lot of news and a ton of stories about these leaked emails from this computer. Wow. Today went nuts. So here we can see evidence that suggests Joe Biden lied when he said he didn't talk to his son about his business dealings, because one of these emails shows this guy is saying, thanks for giving me the opportunity to meet and spend time with your dad. Something to that effect.

Now we've got mainstream media organizations arguing the email doesn't actually say that because the opportunity doesn't mean they actually met. Now you have journalists, I'm doing air quotes here, saying, do not link the story from the New York Post. Do not link it. Now that's anti-journalism. That's suppression of information and willfully making it harder for people to understand what's happening in the world. And that's what our news organizations do, anti-journalism. But the craziest thing that happened was Facebook and Twitter actively censoring not just the New York Post. I believe this may be one of one of the oldest newspapers in the country. It's like 200 and what, 218, 216 years old. But they're also suppressing links to the story. Twitter has, I believe they froze the account of the New York

Post on Twitter. You can't share the story. It's got like warning labels on it. And and the press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, got locked out of her account for sharing this story. Ladies and gentlemen, this is it. Beyond a reasonable doubt that these big tech companies are actively working to cheat the election to help Joe Biden and Democrats win. Now, I understand everyone's probably saying we knew this, Tim. We knew this. It was obvious for a long time. I still have people on the left refusing to admit it. They probably still will. But I'll tell you what, man. When they shut down the New York Post, which has been around since I think like 1801 or

something, this is not censorship of a regular conservative. This is not censorship of a guy where you're asking questions about, well, but my private platform is a news organization. It's journalists, the press secretary saying Joe Biden's son is corrupt and we have the evidence. Apparently they claimed that they're blocking the information because it was hacked, but we have no evidence. That's true. The information came from a hard drive that was left at a repair shop. So anyway, I don't want to get too much of this because we got a bunch of guests and we're going to talk about everything that's happening. And of course, as many of you probably already know,

Jack Murphy is here with us today. You guys love Jack Murphy. Hello, Tim. Hello, Ian. Hello, Lydia. How's it going? Of course, we also have Lydia, who's producing. You guys know Lydia.

I'm over here. And a special guest today is Captain Crossland. Oh, yeah. Captain on the bridge. Captain on the bridge. He's wearing a Starfleet uniform. That's a red shirt, dude. That's a red shirt.

Earl Grey. Yeah, we know how it stands. Red is command. Red is command. In the original Star Trek, it was Ensign who would go die. That's exactly right. If you were in red, that means you were dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I prefer my Earl Grey hot. So by the end of this episode, you're going to get eaten by a space monster okay well i mean it's better than getting banned on twitter i guess that's true this is this this is uh i fully i i'm surprised my videos from today didn't get shut down yeah so uh let's just let's just jump into the story let me let me show you i think is the most important one we'll start with this check this out from the new york post actually wait wait i can't believe no you got to smash the like button did you guys yeah yeah whoa hold on yeah they did not use your elbow use your finger use don't forget yeah subscribe like share this podcast if you really do want to help we're live chilling

right now for those that are listening live and uh yeah sharing really really does help so um smash like notifications whatever let's read the news it's from the new york post we're actually pulling up the new post twitter facebook cens censor post over Hunter Biden expose. I wonder if we're going to get shut off if like YouTube will pull this find out. Let's keep reading. Both Twitter and Facebook took extraordinary censorship measures against the post on Wednesday over its exposes about Hunter Biden's emails and leveled baseless accusations that the reports used hacked materials.

The suppression effort came despite presidential candidate Joe Biden's campaign merely denying that he had anything on his official schedules about meeting a Ukrainian energy executive in 2015, along with zero claims that his son's computer had been hacked. The Post's primary Twitter account was locked as of 2.20 p.m. Wednesday because its articles about the messages obtained from Biden's laptop broke the social network's rules against, quote, distribution of hacked material, according to an email the post received from Twitter. Twitter also blocked users from sharing the link to the post, indicating that Hunter Biden introduced Joe Biden to the Ukrainian businessman, calling the link potentially harmful. Now that is a fat load of crap. Harmful link to the New York Post. That's a whole harmful to whom?

To Joe Biden. Exactly right. Yeah, we saw it was Andy Stone. He worked for the Democrats. He was on the Senate majority pack. He was on he worked for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. And now he works for Facebook. And he said, we're going to suppress this this we're going to we're going to we're

going to suppress this story straight up and all these journalists are are well anti-journalists sorry these people are depraved man no joke like utter depravity they just want power it's not good enough to be a journalist you have to be you have to be not a journalist you have to be it is it is not good enough to simply be a journalist you must actively be anti-journalist. It is not good enough to simply be a journalist. You must actively be anti-journalist. Yeah. That's what they're doing. What they're doing here is they've lost the battle of ideas. They've lost the upper hand.

They've lost the high ground. And what they've done is instead of trying to change people's minds and opinions and ideas, they changed the rules of the game. Yeah. It's like a little kid slamming the table and screaming and flipping the board over and over again because you're winning a chess. I think, you know, Trump, whatever he posts on Twitter, people will like mirror his account. Sometimes they'll make a new account, just whatever Trump tweets out, they'll tweet it out. And they've been banning those accounts. Oh, yeah.

They leave Trump up. So it seems like they're not anti-Trump. They're just like excessively authoritarian. They're anti-Trump, but they would ban Trump if they could, but it would cause too many problems for them. But it's too much like hearsay, like, I'm just feeling like just feeling like this is bit gonna be i know how it goes being an admin a social media admin you have total control over what you want to ban yeah trump's tweets will get flagged and they'll claim he's breaking the rules like my favorite was when they were like trump needs to be banned for for breaking the rules on violent or threatening posts because

he threatened north korea i'm like oh well hold on a minute like there's a difference between i mean i i agree trump should chill out when threatening other countries but he's also the president the commander in chief of the armed forces and if he's making a statement about the might of america versus our adversaries can we be a band that's could you could you imagine if twitter does do that what are they going to do with trump after after the presidency is over? Whether it's, you know, hopefully not going to happen. Have you seen?

But four years from now, what happens then? They're just going to ban him out right after that? Or it's too much of a cash cow for them? Have you seen the Ryan Long comedy skit he did on this? The journalists, one month after the election, they're like all sweaty and like freaking out. Like, what do we write about? And someone's like, we can write about how Trump. No, no, Trump is just a guy now. Right. That's where that's where we're heading they're doomed well they'll just go back to doing

what they did before which is just regurgitating without any question or skepticism everything that the democrats hand them to produce yep the the news in this country is alive and well right here tim pool that's right i mean Correct. Conservatives do very little journalism. Very little. They mostly do commentary and response. They chase after the narrative put out by the left. So the left is framing everything. Now, the left has gotten so absurd with their framing that now people are starting to go, what?

And the New York Post is not on the left. And they do journalism. I'm just saying there's a tendency of most of the sourcing and publishing and statements being made that are like definitive news stories i don't mean factual i mean like this is a news story and here's what happened it's it's it's left bias absolutely left bias and then you end up with uh rating agencies media bias fact check news guard um a bunch of these websites, that they base what's centrist off of establishment

left-leaning media. I want to read this line here from Twitter. They say, in line with our hacked materials policy, as well as our approach to blocking URLs, we are taking action to block any links to or images of the material in question on Twitter. A Twitter spokesperson told

the Post in a statement, the company said it took the step because of the material in question on Twitter. A Twitter spokesperson told the Post in a statement. The company said it took the step because of the lack of authoritative reporting on where the materials included in the Post story originated. They said they originated from a laptop. So for those that don't know the story, did you guys hear the story yet? We did. We read the story, talked about it a little bit. Let's talk about it some more, though. Maybe I missed something so this guy at a repair shop somebody comes in and gives

him a waterlogged computer doesn't work so he copies the hard drive and then you know tries to fix it i guess he couldn't fix it and eventually uh dude never shows up he doesn't he couldn't identify hunter biden as the dude the computer had had Beau Biden Foundation on it. So apparently he gave a copy to Rudy Giuliani's lawyer, and then he gave a copy to the feds. Apparently he gave the copy to Rudy Giuliani's lawyer a year ago. Did you hear that? I wonder if they've been sitting on it

until... What month is it? Is it October? It's October. What do you know? So look, I'll say it straight up. Dirty politics. However, if it's true, it's true. Indeed. Yeah. I mean, there is a picture with him lying in bed with a crack pipe in his mouth.

Theoretically, hypothetically. So it could be a weed pipe. It looks like it. Yeah, we were debating this earlier. It looks like there's resin in the bowl. It's a crack pipe. Which could be just THC resin. It's a crack pipe.

But it also could be freebasing. So you've smoked weed out of a bowl, right? Yeah. That's got the, what is it, choke on it? Yeah. but it also could be freebasing so you've smoked wheat out of a bowl right yeah that's got the what is it choke on it yeah you shotgun the carb or whatever yeah yeah yeah this thing he's got his mouth does not have that after you oh it doesn't have one of them no it doesn't need one you can smoke weed out of a pipe without a carb on it i don't look i don't know you can if you're smoking crack you're probably a connoisseur of some kind so you're getting the right pipe he's got the right pipe the question i had about this too because we were talking about a little before is like isn't hunter biden rich

he's getting 83 000 a month from this crooked burisma deal and and he he he opts for crack instead of that sweet columbian pure they're from scranton dude that's right they are working they're just regular salt of the earth people hey he's not above smoking crack that's to be joe biden's new thing don't be don't go supporting this wall street people these park avenue people support me and my family we are a salt of the earth we are from scranton we are not even above smoking crack yo well there was a there's a cell of me on them so now that we're shifting from the very serious like death to free speech in this country. Yeah.

But we actually got this right. We got it. We got it. Follow us up. Check this out. Cocaine pipe and white powdery substance found in Hunter Biden's rental car in 2016 from the Washington Examiner. Say a police report said that Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden, returned a rental car in

Arizona that contained a cocaine pipe days before the 2016 presidential election. According to a new report, Hunter Biden's first name is Robert. Also left credit cards, driver's licenses, Delaware, blah, blah, blah. Okay, we get it. It was his. Yeah, yeah. So is there – look, we got this photo now. It shows Joe Biden's son with like a crack pipe in his mouth.

This is not even the serious news. The serious news is that Joe Biden lied apparently. I got to say apparently. We got to be very careful here. We got a presidential election but the email suggests that the ukrainian business businessman from barisma the third most powerful man said thank you for you know giving the opportunity to thank you for like bringing me to dc and giving the opportunity to meet with you know your dad or whatever or something and spend time with him it was like poor english so it's kind of confusing i saw i think bloomberg

said being granted the opportunity doesn't mean he actually met. Yeah, but have you ever? Thanks for the opportunity. That's what you say. Thanks for the opportunity. Appreciate it. It was great. Right.

That's weird. Yeah. What do you mean? Thanks for the opportunity to come to your house. It's too bad we didn't do it. That's weird. Right. I'm glad you sort of switched back to the important news because we should say one thing.

Like, it's obvious Hunter Biden dealing with drug addiction. Drug addiction is very serious. Many of us, almost all of us know somebody struggling with drug addiction. It's generally not a laughing matter. And you know what? Prayers up Hunter Biden. Hopefully one day he can get that under control. Right. And so, but what the real story, let's not be distracted by the crackpites.

The real story is possibly him peddling influence and connections with his father, getting paid to do it all along the way. It's interesting. The story that's being blocked is specifically about uh this this businessman meeting his dad yeah so this is really interesting i think the house judiciary uh committee house judiciary gop says twitter has blocked users from tweeting the link to the new york post store and hunter biden so we put it on our website for you to read and share love it and it links to the republicans judiciary.house.gov and it's the story so is twitter now going to block a.gov that would be very very interesting yeah it doesn't seem to be beyond them at this point yeah so so let me let me break down for everybody who doesn't

understand what's happening here what the seriousness of this of the story it's a viral video where joe biden says i you know, I'll paraphrase, I want to get this prosecutor in Ukraine fired. So I use, I think it was a billion dollar loan guarantee. The U.S. is going to loan Ukraine a billion dollars. And so he went to the prime minister and said, if you don't fire him, you're not getting the money. And the guy says, you can't, you can't do that. Only the president can. He goes, call the president, ask him. So and then he's like, sure enough, six hours later, he he's like i'm getting ready to leave you know son of a b i got fired everyone's laughing and clapping the first response i had to that was because you got the right saying

he's he's manipulating this to protect his son because his son was on the board of this company the prosecutor was investigating that company then you get the left saying it's not true europe the eu thought he was corrupt they want to get rid of him as well. My response is, why is the vice president going to any country and bribing them to interfere in internal affairs for these other countries? Like that to me on its own is kind of like, that's true. I don't like that idea that the US goes to foreign countries and says, we'll give you a billion dollars to fire your prosecutor. Do you think that that's a new evolution in American foreign policy, though? No, it's not. So my understanding is typically the way it works is we go there, we say, listen here, we're in America.

You get rid of this prosecutor, we'll give you a billion dollars. You don't take the billion dollars, maybe things get a little bad. Maybe your auntie has an accident, you know what I'm saying? And then, sure enough, you don't take the money and then protest forms. And then where you don't get that anti aircraft, you know, sales go through that you thought you were going to get. You can't buy the self-defense weaponry that you thought you were going to get. You don't get the loan from the IMF or the World Bank that you thought that you were going to get.

You don't get the investment in a port or an airport or whatever it is that you thought that you might get. We've been doing this kind of crap. Right. Have you read Confessions of an Economic hit yeah i was gonna mention that there's three steps the first is economic if they don't fall for it then you send in the people to try and assassinate the leader and i thought that was the last one that's the second one if you can't assassinate the leader then you go to war yep yep yeah i remember watching that so what was that

guy like he was like cia he's great yeah read his book check him out on youtube so that's it works even on the individual level the first thing anyone tries to do is bribe you if they can if they can give you some cash and you'll do their bidding it's the easiest way to get it done otherwise they're going to start pressuring you and threatening you and your family if they can't deal with you and you won't solve and the problem can't be solved they off you and if they can't then they go to war literally in some situations like in iraq for instance they went to war because they couldn't get saddam if they tried to kill him they couldn in some situations. I'm just meaning like for an individual. In Iraq, for instance, they went to war because they couldn't get Saddam. They tried to kill him.

They couldn't do it. So they, you know, they, we, the United States, marched in for no reason. Our representatives. Yeah. Yes, we the people. So look, look, look. I understand this is a normal process. And I'm not saying it's a good thing.

I'm just saying it's routine where the U.S. says like, we got a billion dollars. Why don't you take it and fire this guy? And they took it and they fired the guy. Here's the crazy bit about this. The guy was investigating Burisma. Now, some outlets argue he wasn't actually. There was an open investigation. It was inactive. And I'm kind of like, so you admit there's an investigation. Like the status of the investigation is less relevant to me because it could be inactive because it went cold. I don't know. It could be inactive because

the dude started cooperating or because it led them out. There's a million reasons it could be inactive because it went cold. I don't know. It could be inactive because the dude started cooperating or because it led them out. There's a million reasons it could be inactive. Or a billion. Yeah, yeah. Infinite. I have no idea. All I know is they opened investigation. It became inactive for some reason.

Joe Biden says this guy wasn't investigating Burisma. That's why they wanted to fire him. So Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son son is on the board of this company. And we believe, based on all the evidence specifically, because he's selling his father's influence. It's like you can't give Joe Biden money, but you can give Hunter money. You give Hunter that, you know, $83,000 a month contract. All of a sudden, Joe Biden's doing you favors and getting rid of that prosecutor. That's the allegation.

Here's the best part. Joe Biden says this prosecutor Shoken, Victor Victor Shokin, was not investigating this corruption at Burisma. That's why we wanted him gone. And so son of a B, right? That's what he said. Guy got fired. Guess what?

New prosecutor comes in, clears Lacheski of all wrongdoing. That's weird. That's weird. I thought the prosecutor was supposed to be investigating him turns out the new prosecutor who came in no problems you're free to go buddy zlachevsky comes back to the ukraine working like like no big deal then in 2018 during the trump administration new charges get brought back zlachevsky flees to monaco under trump i'm not saying there's a correlation like between trump and this i'm just telling telling you, if Joe Biden's excuse is legitimate, that he was supposed to be

investigating this guy and the new prosecutor found no wrongdoing, then Joe Biden got a prosecutor fired for not going after an innocent man. That's that's the official story of Joe Biden. Now, I think most of us assume Joe Biden's probably crooked, especially with these emails. And what he was really doing was cutting a favor for his son who was getting the cash his son's getting paid there was an email saying thanks for introducing me i think it was like almost a little bit less than a year later joe biden flies out there fired the guy as soon as he got fired and when you say they're investigating barisma what were they investigating them for zlotchechevsky. So I think his name is Mykola

Zlotchevsky was the founder of Burisma. He's corrupt. He's been accused of a bunch of things. And along with the work he did, Burisma is the periphery. What Burisma was involved in is directly related to what Zlotchevsky was doing. So Shokin argued that he was actually looking

at the executives of this company as well because of their involvement. Why? Listen, throw that all aside. It's just it's got to be said. Why in the ever living is is Joe Biden's son who doesn't speak Ukrainian, who has no experience in the energy sector, getting paid eighty three thousand dollars a month to be on the board of this company? Right. Biden.

That's why his name and then one of the stories from the new york post it looks like in the email i say it looks like because i gotta be very careful here he's saying like you know once people realize like our guy and what he says our guy's coming in the new york post is asserting that he was using his his dad joe biden visit to influence to gain more money, like going to these companies and saying, hey, my dad's coming. You got a pony up. We can't tell him, you know, Joe, what to do. But, you know, I love it. If you can find this story. Yeah, it's from Politico magazine about the corruption of the Biden family.

And it's from a few years ago about how Biden's brother, his kids have all just come into all this great money. You know, I was having a conversation earlier today and I thought of something. I think Donald Trump's got a lot of problems. I think Joe Biden's got a lot of problems. And I said, you know what? I'd rather take the guy

who's losing money trying to get reelected than take the guy who's trying to get elected to make money. You found it? Yeah, I found it. Oh, look at this. Oh, snap. Here we go, baby. Biden Inc to make money. You found it? Yeah, I found it. Oh, look at this. Oh, snap. Here we go, baby.

Biden Inc. Biden Inc. Over his decades in office, middle class Joe's family fortunes have closely tracked his political career. So weird. August 2nd, 2019. Look at that. They talk about his brother. They talk about his son purchasing a firm.

You know, what's that firm they had? What was it called? Rosemont Seneca? All that magic money flying in. Let's get into politics. What's that firm they had? What was it called? Rosemont Seneca? All that magic money flying in. Why else get into politics? That's right. Joe Biden has been in politics for 47 years. 47 years.

And he made himself very wealthy. And his brother. What'd you say? Salt of the Earth from Scranton? Right, exactly. Now, what's it worth now? Several million dollars? How is it that he had to even pay $3 million in taxes in 2017?

Like, why? Where is that income coming from and why? That's the name of the game, dude. You get into politics, you get the power, then you peddle that influence. First you get the money. Yeah, exactly. First you get the political

position. Could you imagine, imagine this scenario. Somebody gets elected to say like Senate or whatever, and then gets appointed to like some administration position, maybe like Secretary of State, and they launch a nonprofit foundation. I'm tracking. And it brings in hundreds of millions of dollars and donations from all of these foreign countries

while the person whose name is on the nonprofit foundation. No one would ever do that. It's like the secretary of state or something. No. Could you imagine? Let me ask you though, for those that are listening. If I told you that we had a secretary of state who also had a nonprofit that received foreign donations

from a bunch of different countries, what would you think about that? We got to give it a hypothetical name, like the Clinton Foundation. Yeah, that's a good hypothetical name. We'll call it the Clinton Foundation. So just hypothetically, if the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, hypothetically, ran a foundation, the Clinton Foundation, was receiving money from a bunch of foreign countries while they were the Secretary of State. I mean, that just reeks of corruption, doesn't it?

Dude. they were the Secretary of State. I mean, that just reeks of corruption, doesn't it? Dude, you go deep into her involvement with like Sidney Blumenthal who has this company, Global Osprey Solutions. They wanted to set up weapons deals in Libya. And so Hillary was like, yeah, in her emails, came out with her stuff with Sidney, who's been advising the Clintons since the 90s. Yeah,

we'll get you guys set up in Libya when we go in with our guys. Then she tells Barack what's going to Libya as the Secretary of State, sets up her buddy with weapons deals, arms contracts. We came, we saw he died. I mean, Joe Biden supposedly paid three some million dollars in taxes in 2017. If you've got a good CPA or whatever, that's tens of millions of dollars that he's earning. Now, people say Trump is using the presidency to trade up

financially to enrich himself. The dude's got a golden toilet. Right. So how is it, though, that Joe Biden makes it to the point where he's earning tens of millions of dollars to pay three million dollars in taxes in one year? How is that not the whole time enriching himself through his political? You got to ask yourself now nancy pelosi uh her her personal net worth is actually i think in the in the in the uh eight digits but her husband is extremely wealthy so her married net worth is like 200 million yikes but still you gotta ask yourself how is that somebody runs for congress their salary is what 170k per year now they're millionaires it's book deals a lot of times i'm like speaking deals which is exactly leveraging their political

office to make for sure but think about this you could you could write a book and then a pack could buy up you know 10 000 copies for distribution i bet that never happens oh yeah uh-huh yeah it literally does happen there's rooms filled with boxes full of books somewhere yeah no one ever right yeah and it's it's left and right it's republican and democrat yeah i think trump's very very different though and it's really funny to me i saw a post from somebody and they were like there's no uh what was socks the cat is that the cat's name what was the dog's name the clinton head or something i don't know barney no it's like bushes they were like there's no fido there's no dogs there's no there's no roses in the rose garden they've been ripped out by this you know like literally insulted melania for being a foreigner and it was like what's happened to our country and i'm like

is that what you were worried about this whole time like there's no dog at the white house the roses the roses are gone is that what you were because i was worried about the fact that we blew up like a bunch of kids in a foreign country you know that was freaking me out the whole time like i'm sitting there like i can't what's going on why are we doing this robot assassins on one hand not a dog in the yard on the other i don't know if the white house doesn't have crap in the lawn is it really the white house i'm gonna go back one more time to this 2017 taxes thing because i'm stuck on this yeah man he got elected the end of 2016 trump did took office beginning of 2017 right as part of taking

office he's supposed to move all his money away not make any money whatever he gets paid 400 whatever grant to be the president but he gives out all that money away so didn't we demand that he make no money in 2017 wasn't that the demand right off the bat and now the guy reports he didn't make any money so he's not paying any taxes like how is that a story we got you it's not but he paid tax he paid a million dollars in 2016 millions and millions of other kinds of taxes. It's such a ridiculous thing. This is what's shocking to me. I think the New York Times has – there's a clear case for libel for Trump. That story they put out about his taxes opens with Trump only paid $750 in taxes.

And then halfway down it says Trump actually paid a total of $5.2 million. But his liability was only $750 750 but he did pay millions so why if in the beginning they said he only paid 750 the one line people read and then x'd out but they knew that wasn't true and later on said the total payment was actually in the millions isn't that proving they lied and they knew they lied they presented a fact one fact without the rest of the facts which actually are no no it is it is factually untrue that trump only paid 750 that is not correct oh i should have said he owed 750 he was liable for 750 there we go the opening line of the new york times story said trump paid 700 if you actually

read the story they said trump actually paid a million in 2016 and 4.2 in 2017. But after calculating his losses was only liable for 750. Trump let the IRS hold that money for all future payments. Meaning Trump paid the IRS millions of dollars. And then when it turned out his liability was low because of losses, he said, just keep the money and we'll apply it later. So Trump paid millions of dollars. Well, I guess it's factually true. If you pay a million dollars, you've also paid 750. Yeah.

There it is. Yep. That's the dirty tricks of the anti-journalists. Reminds me of Rick and Morty. I don't know if you've seen it. You've seen it. I love that. The one where Morty's in the simulation and he gets asked, like, what's nine times eight?

And he's like, it's at least 45. That's right. It is at least 45. That's exactly what it is. Trump paid. You know that Trump paid $1 in taxes last year? $1. And another $749.

On top of that. And well, after that, he paid millions and millions. But that $1. He did, yeah. He paid $1 and $2 and $3 and $4 and $5 and $6. It just brings me back to the same question. Dumb or diabolical? Are these people stupid?

Or are they really just actually evil? It makes them both. It really is. Yeah, it makes them both. Because they're looking for views and clicks. And like, Ode is not going to get you the hits that Paid is going to get you. Sadly not. But that doesn't mean they did it intentionally.

So what do we do as citizens? Because this is not going to change. This is only going to get worse as alexander dugan said on my podcast the other day he said there's no fact there's only information yeah so what do we are to do as individuals moving forward in this universe where we're being bombarded by things that are 750 true billion also true one thing what do we do is acknowledge when you're wrong at least on a personal no no i mean what do we do is acknowledge when you're wrong at least on a personal no no i mean what do we do as the recipients of this information how do we make sense of the world stuff like this at least partly yes this is called sense making what we're doing

because at least at least the the option is voting works and you know it's really funny i was like i wouldn't have said that in 2015 or 16 and then donald trump won and started laughing i'm like i guess voting works they're freaking out they're like burning the house down because they hate trump so much clearly voting works go vote that's the most important thing and no confrontations like they're so hungry for any right winger to slip up so they can smear and say that's it i think it's hilarious when they were like well i can't remember what i was reading it was about uh antifa tearing down this abraham lincoln statue and there was a comment saying we know it's actually the proud boys i'm like there's no proud boy tearing down abraham lincoln dude that's just not happening why would they why would the left tear down the statue of abraham

lincoln when he was the last president to nominate a supreme court justice you know like in an election year like remember they had to go all the way back to Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln to come up with some BS story about the Supreme Court nomination in an election. They tore down Abraham Lincoln because he was a president during expansion. He was an expansionist, westward expansion. Colonialist. Yes. And he was stealing land from the indigenous.

He was a Republican, too. You know what's crazy? I saw this progressive friend of mine posted this thread about how you could no longer call Los Angeles like L.A. or something. Because it's like the Spanish name is like. No, the Native American. It's like Ushanga or something. Ushagna or something. I don't know.

I thought they were going to say Los Angeles is like a cultural appropriation of the Spanish phrase. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know what the actual name of L.A. is? It's like this ridiculously long thing of the spanish phrase oh yeah yeah you know the actual name of la is it's like this ridiculously long thing oh really yeah you can you can you can you yeah it's in i didn't know this i don't know how you guys feel about while you're looking that up um columbus day because i think columbus was a psychopath and we got taught a lot of like first of all you got to be a psychopath to get on a boat to sail off the edge of the world and then you have to be a psychopath to manage the gang of guys that are going to be willing

to do such a thing. Yeah. Right? Other psychopaths. Yes. Right. Exactly. Cut me off at any time, lady, if you find what LA is.

Oh, yeah. We found it. We're looking at it right now. Yeah. I got it. I can't pronounce this in Spanish. Wait. Why is my mic not on?

It's the actual name of LA is El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora La Reina de Los Angeles del Rio Porchincola. Town of Our Lady, the Queen of Angels of the River Porchincola. Oh, and Porchincola is the native word? I don't know. Yeah, I got nothing. I'm not familiar with that. It's also a style. The thing about Columbus, I don't know how you guys feel about changing it to Indigenous

People's Day. Because he had his two brothers, and they they took I think it was the Dominican Republic. Is that where they they set up their governorship? Yes. Basically, we're just beating people on the street. His brothers would drag women by the hair down the road and like rape them. I've heard too many different stories. Yeah.

So I just I just don't care. I heard that he was actually punished for the cruelty when he when he returned to Europe and he got criminal charges. And I've heard a whole bunch of others. So I'm just like, you know, man, it's what we're dealing with right now. And the reason why I find this censorship and this Biden stuff so scary, historical revisionists, the statues are being torn down right now. It's not a joke.

This is this. This is their revolution. No one is stopping them. They keep doing it. They've been doing it. And they started with Confederates. And it's so amazing how much it's on purpose. They know that no one's really going to defend Confederates. Dude, personally, I think the Confederate statues, you put them in a museum, we put up a plaque, we explain our history and all that stuff. make sure people remember and they can learn the history then they're like okay now we're gonna tear down thomas jefferson because you know

he had slaves and i'm like whoa whoa whoa thomas jefferson was a lot of things but we cherish the good not the bad yeah then they tear down george washington then they tear down hans christian hegg a union soldier who died fighting to free the slaves and abolitionist. And that was his claim to fame. That's it. He was like 30 years old. He said, we got to abolish this. I will die to free slaves. And then he did.

And they tore his statue down. Frederick Douglass gets torn down. Literally, dude was a slave and then worked on the Underground Railroad and fought legislatively and physically to free the slaves. Amazing dude. They tear a statue. Here's two little stories about how this has progressed and how quickly in 2014 they were doing some statue stuff but it was probably like some kkk guy at the time and i was like where is this gonna go

are we gonna be tearing down statues of washington one day i said this on my facebook page this is like 2014 everybody freaked out they thought i was a maniac for it second thing is i went to santa fe a couple years ago, Santa Fe, New Mexico. I was invited to speak at the University of New Mexico when I was doing a book tour for Democrats of the Plurable. It's on Amazon.com, by the way. Democrats of the Plurable. There we go. I'm a media professional. And they actually banned me as I'm flying on my way to New Mexico. So I don't actually get to speak there because there was a hubbub. So I do a tour. We go to Santa Fe. I was in Albuquerque and we go to Santa Fe. And in the

middle of the town, they have this 1869 monument. And it was questionable because it was involved like killing Indians and all kinds of stuff. And there's a plaque and it said like, oh, they use words like savage and rebel and whatever on this monument. It's on dispute. You know, tempers were high. Times have changed. We've grown and evolved, whatever, whatever. And I took a picture of it then 2018. I was like, look, this is how we should handle disputed monuments, right?

Put a plaque next to it. Explain what happened. Show our progression as people, as humans, as a society. And guess what they just tore down? They tore down that very freaking statue just like two days ago. A monument to the Union soldiers. Yeah.

They crossed out apparently like the word savages or whatever. Yeah. And left it up as a monument to the Union soldiers who died to end slavery. Well, they tore down Abraham Lincoln. So that finally happened. Why? Well, the guy who literally signed the Emancipation Proclamation, he gets torn down. And Teddy Roosevelt because they're expansionists.

Teddy Roosevelt apparently said some offensive things about Native Americans. Yeah, he killed a lot of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they tear him down. They hate him. He was an empire builder. He was kind of like a Trump. Trump.

People hated him, loved him and hated him. He was an empire builder. A lot of love at the time. A lot of love. This is what scares me. It's the revisionism. It's the fake you know everything you have done is bad and they ignore everything else as it's like how far back do we

go how far how far back do we go to figure out who gets what because the native americans fall for land too you know and i bought each other they were vicious against each other and i'm not and i'm not saying that anything the colonists who came to this country did was good. I'm just saying, where are we now? What can we do to make everything better? How do we make that rising tide raise all ships? Are we going to do it by burning things down and screaming? No. We're not. No, not. The logical

conclusion of this is that we just give everything back to the trees. Okay. No, no, no. Naturalist. I like that. I like where you're coming from. What was the first thing on land? It wasn't trees, was it? Was it trees? I have no idea. Fung no, no. A naturalist. I like that. I like where you're coming from. I like it. What was the first thing on land? It wasn't trees, was it? Was it trees? I have no idea.

Fungus, probably. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yes, definitely fungus. No, no, no. I don't think so. I think trees came way, way after land animals. It was something else. I have no clue.

I was reading... No, no, no. On land. I was reading something that was like... I was reading something that was like i was reading something that was like uh trees are actually millions of years younger than like some specific land critters or something oh wow like there were other plants here and algae was you know oxygen oxygen of fine or whatever coral coral's an animal which is odd maybe there was land coral yeah i don't know about that just

throwing stuff it wouldn't be able to move around but what do we give it back to you like how do we repair and move forward without destroying everything? Well, you just recognize fundamental human rights and you move forward. It's as simple as that. Fundamental human rights. Are human rights universal? Does every human on the planet have the same human rights? Does every culture have the same notion of rights?

Well, that's a different question. Yeah. I believe that we have been bestowed by our creator inalienable rights. Indeed. They're endowed upon us. I'm actually not 100%. I'm just saying, you know, that's basically what we said in the U.S. and what was it, the Declaration of Independence?

Yeah. And the rights are granted to us not by just the fact that we exist, not by a king or a government. That's not true for other cultures. Right. Yeah. And that's why they don't like us so government. That's not true for other cultures. Right. Yeah. And that's why they don't like us so much is because we declared that those are universal.

Yep. And if they're universal, that means if you haven't adopted them, that means that you're doing it wrong. Like humans. It puts us in a position of conflict. This is what the outs, this is what the rest of the world thinks,

right? They have their own, their own civilizations and their own cultures and their own morals and their own idea of human values. And they hear us saying hey ours are universal buddy and if you don't take them you're in big trouble did you see the project veritas release i did not project veritas just put out a video of this guy who was i guess a democratic operative saying they want to get violent they want to pull out the slicey boys he called them slicey boys slicey Boys are?

When you're dealing with politicians you don't like, you bring out a Slicy Boy? Oh, boy. Yeah. Yeah. And Project Veritas, this guy's saying it. I'm not going to pretend like this guy's the most prominent Democrat in the world, but you've got Democrats saying this is our plan. He's what? He's not.

I actually have a kind of salient thought about this. So what was interesting to me about this most recent Project Veritas release was that this happened in Colorado, which is where I'm from. And it happened in Weld County, Colorado. So that's not interesting to most people I know, but I spent a year there. That's a farming county. There's nothing there. This isn't Fort Collins. This isn't Boulder. This isn't Denver. This is way out in the middle of nowhere. There are cows. There are oil rigs. There's nothing exciting or interesting. This isn't cosmopolitan. And to hear this coming from somewhere like Weld County, to me, is frankly terrifying.

Why? Because it's taking root there. Oh, and like. That troubles me. In middle of nowhere country. Yes. And a bunch in farmland. This is literally like cornfields and cows and stuff.

I'll tell you what this guy was saying. He was saying that basically, if Joe Biden gets elected, they'll still riot. If Joe Biden gets elected and he won't sign the progressive policies, he said we won't let him leave his house. I believe it. The question that we keep hearing is. They hate Joe Biden. Of course. Of course.

But the question is, you know, under which president will we have bad riots? All of the above. All of the above. All of the above. But what's the difference between the two? The media will go one way or the other. Well, the big difference between the presidents. Under both presidents, we're going to have riots, right? Yes.

So what's the difference between a Trump presidency and a Biden presidency in that regard? Trump might actually put some of them in jail. Exactly. Yep. Might actually put some of them in jail. They did go get that guy in Portland. That's for sure. What was his name?

The shooter. I mean, they sent the feds after him. Yeah, and what did Trump call it? Retribution or something? We got him. That's brutal. That's too much. I don't like that.

Well, a guy pulled out a machine gun. Right, right, right. Of course, of course. Well, so I guess the official story is that he was armed. And he was armed because he had a... There's a bunch of other photos of him being armed. He was arrested before I guess on gun charges. The report I read said that he got off 50 rounds or more before they started firing on him. Man, I don't know.

Well, so I read a report that said one witness claimed that wasn't true. Oh. But I'll put it this way, man. He did. No, no, no. Look, if you get a guy who's got a gun charge, then he comes out later and stalks a Trump supporter and kills him. And then I hear from the cops that he had a gun.

I'll be like, I mean, the dude had a tendency to have a gun. You know what I mean? Makes sense. I'm not going to doubt him on that regard. Makes sense to me. Yeah. The riots are coming no matter what. I have a thought about the Supreme Court packing.

Same sort of similar theme here is maybe biden's really had been avoiding it because he doesn't want to and he knows that the left really really wants him to right that's why he already said not like he said he's not a fan of court packing yeah i spent the day in the horse country today trying to get my mind out of the news but dude i go but but i i talk to regular people all the time and then they tell me stuff and i'm just like wow i can't i heard some really crazy stories from the skateboarding community and this is this is one of the craziest things to me because so when when i hear skate let me let me tell you a secret about skateboarders they're nihilists they don't care about your politics

they don't care about any of this stuff. Leave me alone. I'm going to go skate. They're very libertarian, very anti-authoritarian, and very nihilistic. If they can live in a one, like 10 people crammed into one bedroom paying 100 bucks a month just to get by and they can skate every day, they're happy. Sort of like what you got going on here. Well, this is a crazy, you know, commune farm. But I'm here and now all these skateboarders are voting for Trump.

I had some amateur skateboarder amateur usually implies like they've got some notoriety some hitting me up being like amazing job dude you're killing it is amazing and i'm like what like this dude should not be like a politically active person it's kind of getting crazy the amount of times i come across people who are apolitical who like i've been skating my whole life man whenever you don't you don't talk politics with skateboarders they don't care sometimes they might be like left-leaning or but they're normies they're doing a kickflip that's that's that's the extent to which they have like public videos like a public video series called do a kickflip because it's just like there's nothing going on it's like the 800th video i've seen called do a kickflip yeah and now i got these these dudes posting there's some crazy

stories i don't know how much i can reveal because it might you know a lot of these people are scared of getting canceled but i'll tell you this man some top musicians hollywood celebrities and skateboarders have hit me up in the past several months telling me their their their trump train 2020 even when i was saying like so this is like before trump put out a second agenda before i was like okay i'm gonna vote for the guy i had people saying like dude you're is like before Trump put out a second agenda before I was like, okay, I'm gonna vote for the guy. I had people saying like, dude, you're wrong, man. Trust me. And I'm like, this is a Hollywood celebrity from like TV shows on Netflix and Amazon telling me I got to vote for Trump.

And I'm like, I thought Hollywood was far left. I can't. This is crazy to me. So I have an idea on this. It has become completely obvious that the dissidents in America are Trump supporters. The punks are Trump supporters. Yeah, man. The people that do DIY media production,

Trump supporters were out there. This is something that I did when I was a kid. We did raves back then in the 90s, right? We broke into warehouses and like DJed and played crazy music and did a bunch of drugs. And I was a rebel and I've always been a rebel. And I'm seeing this now more people seeing the fact that Biden and Tifa Billum, it's the establishment.

You can't, there's no denying the fact that they are the establishment now with the corporations, the names on the streets, the backing of the government, the NBA, all of this. They are the, they are now the establishment and good branding for trump is to scoop up those disaffected people and be like you're a punk we're punks we are insurgents dude within the united states and trump is an insurgent johnny rotten johnny rotten you saw

johnny ron right i did it was sad to see him in such a state physically he's like really gone but yeah dude with maga full-on because he sees it and anybody who is involved in punk politics sees it let me let me tell you something okay you guys you know you know sex pistols yeah sex pistols og pong like johnny rotten yep he was the lead singer wasn't he oh yeah and and this guy came out and he was seen wearing a maga shirt and then people asked him like you're voting for trump he's like of course and he was seen wearing a MAGA shirt and then people asked him like you're voting for Trump and he's like of course and he voted for Clinton in 2016 he said he voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016

Obama Obama now he's voting Trump and he said it's because Biden's not capable of being the president and the economy is like you can't ignore it and I'm like that's extremely rational and normal point to be made the funny thing is you know Ricky Gervais brought it up in one of his live streams and it was really funny he was like oh johnny rotten like why why would johnny rotten

wear a maga shirt apparently you can't do that or he said maga hat he's like well unless you're an aging punk trying to agitate people and i laughed at that too because at least ricky's got a fun attitude about it but i think ricky's wrong you look they look at johnny rotten the people who are you know like ricky gervais who are you know having a good time and still willing to have a laugh and he thinks johnny rotten's just trying to make everybody angry then you listen to johnny rotten he's like well the economy was really good under you know donald trump and i have to recognize that and you know joe biden just doesn't seem to have it i'm like that's like a normal point to me that's not agitating anybody exactly but someone someone posted a photo of sid vicious wearing a

swastika t-shirt and And so he was the original singer. Yeah. And it's like, I don't think these people know what punk is. You know what I mean? Yeah. So when I grew up with punk, and look, I'm not going to pretend to know what punk is because apparently there's so many different punks and everyone thinks punk is this. Like libertarianism.

Yeah, exactly. Lousy punks, they ruined punk. Exactly. But what I was told when I was growing up when i was into punk music and i was skating was that it was basically anti-establishment anti-authoritarian the reason that like these guys there wasn't they would dye their hair shave their like the sides of their head make their hair look weird and wear weird clothes was to be as offensive and shocking as possible to the squares to the normies so yeah sid vicious would wear a swastika t-shirt because

he's like he wanted you to get angry and and he wanted to challenge what you would be comfortable in. He wanted to shock you to your core. That's not what punk is today. It's like been perfectly co-opted. There's this really funny cartoon of this woman wearing like a jean vest and she's got like a purple mohawk or something. And she's like, you're not punk unless you support black lives matter. And I'm like, and then there's another funny one where it's like,

you're not, it was a mockery of it. You're not punk unless your opinions align with every major multinational billion dollar corporation. Exactly. Real punk doesn't, it'll get banned. That's the problem with it.

Cause like I would be swearing and wearing a shirt with the koala, giving the finger right now. If, if I could, you probably, you probably can do that. I might wear the koala shirt the finger right now if if I could you probably you probably can do that I might wear the koala shirt someday do it I mean dude I mean one day that's going to be offensive what you're wearing and they're going to go back in time and delete the

video take over they're gonna they're gonna rewrite the prime directive Elon Musk is gonna neural link everybody then we're gonna start talking about how the Borg was right in Star Trek and then they're gonna ban your shirt I think is real. It's just so dissuaded by social media. It lives on currently in social media. This is the punk spirit. This is the punk spirit right now. DIY. Challenge the facts.

Challenge the establishment. Create your own narrative. Build your own space. Have your own community. F you. I'm not going to listen to you. Oh my God. I'm just having flashbacks

rage against the machine it's making me so sad because thinking about them they are now the machine and i still no no it's it's rage on behalf of the right oh there you go that's what it is and i still listen to one song over and over on my workout list you know f you i won't do what you tell me f you i won't do what you tell me f you i won't do what you tell me i mean that's a vibe man you know the american spirit a lot of it is the mood you tell me to do something i do the opposite yeah you get in my face you demand i raise my fist i'll flick you off yep and that's i'll do the opposite there must be an insidious reason for you of being the authoritarian that comes from that lack of that natural distrust for authority you know and that's trump dude

that's why trump says the crazy things that he does that's why he says that's why he said stand back and stand by and not stand down it's because he's only people telling him what to do are you saying donald trump is punk rock definitely 100 100 this guy wearing a suit yes a businessman yes punk rock he's punk rock 100 to be to be fair i used we used to wear suits like yeah like dress pants suits long sleeve button-up shirts with collars we used to go skate and we would put on suits and it's not for real it's not the clothing we would skate wearing we would get like thrift store suits and we would go skate with a tie and a suit sounds like beastie boys because

era but you know you know what it was like when my friends were doing it and when i was doing it it was basically like skateboarding was becoming mainstream and popular and so to be the antithesis of this was to wear a suit now nice because it's like mtv had a show and the dudes are wearing the the same kind of clothes and now they're they started marketing you know they started making the clothes that were like pre-ripped or pre-frayed or whatever and so it was like my jeans were ruined because i was skating and was you know scraping my you know falling down then they started selling pre-ruined jeans we went to thrift store put on suits right they started it was fun i would love to see a clip to that you should recreate it that'd be amazing i mean that was a trend back in like so funny the early 2000s with skateboarders wearing suits because

it was like so here's here's the thing about punk and subcultures in general. Subcultures in general have a life cycle to them. They start off in the dark corners and they get a little bit more popular. And then eventually the mainstream co-ops them. Right. And then it takes away all of their bite. Okay. And so what we're seeing now with social media and technology is there's no way to co-opt it.

You're not going to be co-opted, Tim. You're not going to just get swallowed up. Your voice isn't going to get just put into the den with the rest of the establishment. Social media provides a place for dissidents to actually have a life cycle where they don't get co-opted by the mainstream. I firmly believe, and I was talking about this with a guy who's an ethnomusicologistologist as a matter of fact who studies dissident music scenes that there isn't one right now in the united states there isn't a dissident music scene and that energy didn't go away it lives on right now maga social media have you heard what uh like the the it's like the the guy started bad religion i think i can't remember exactly what he was set was saying but he was talking about like black lives

matter and the establishment and being punk. But they wrote a song. I think this was Bad Religion who wrote this. It was an alt-right recruitment song. Yeah, it was Bad Religion. They wrote a song, and it was called The Kids Are Alt-Right or whatever. Oh, yeah. And when the song came out, I was hearing from these lefties that it's a punk song that's

supposed to be against the alt-right, but the song's pro-alt-right. The lyrics are like, everybody needs somebody, come join the party. And I'm like, this is not critical in any capacity. They're not insulting them. They're literally telling people it's fun, come hang out. That's weird. I don't know about that. Because Greg teaches at Berkeley.

Super weird. I don't know about that. I know that the dissident energy that I grew up with, that I fostered and channeled as a teen, is living on today. I used to have a studio in my basement making music and an old Mac doing zines and writing little articles to hand out at parties and whatever. What am I doing today? I got a studio in my basement. I'm writing online.

I'm doing Twitters and blogs. It's the same vibe. Same mood. Sorry. Yeah, that's right. Same mood. It's the same vibe, same mood, sorry. Yeah, that's right. I was reading something interesting where it was like this teacher asked his students how many of them thought that if they were alive during slavery that they would have opposed slavery. He was like, imagine you, you know, it's the era of slavery. Slavery is alive right now.

How many of you would oppose it? They all raised their hand. And he says, okay, now each and every one of you, I want you to name something you've done that has gone against the establishment has been extremely unpopular would get you fired from your job kicked out of school or grounded for life and none of them had any nothing to say and he and he said during that era slavery was the establishment acceptable norm and those that opposed it were the fringe anti-establishment weirdos and the people freeing the slaves were criminals. And the slaves that were like, they were sending out people to catch them.

He's like, each and every one of you following the establishment, listening to your popular music, you are doing exactly the opposite of what you think you would be doing. Sweet, I would have been an abolitionist. That's right. Yeah, probably. I think it's funny because like,

people have tried saying that about me. Yeah, I know, right? Thank goodness. People try claiming that me and a bunch of other, you know, moderate or, you know, freedom-minded individuals would be the ones. And I'm like, it's the exact opposite. Right. You're the ones that are screaming in a woman's face while raising her fist, demand she raise her fist with you. Right.

There's no comparable movement. Right. Like, on the right for that. No. You've got the creepy weirdo you know white supremacist types but you know you know what i realized too creepy you know why i think there's an eat like the left describes a very obvious group and the right doesn't because the right as we describe it is more individualist right so you have a bunch of disparate individuals

and groups that don't unify on any ideas right the left they're collectivists so they all form a hive and then agree on all these things right social justice economic policy for the most part you got dirtbag left and you got woke left but you know right and i guess the alt-right is kind of kind of a woke right or something you know their economic policy is left i don't know whatever dude the alt-right nothing about today is different than the alt-right a decade ago. The alt-right a decade ago was like neoconservative warm-up. There wasn't an alt-right. It was the neocons.

No, it wasn't. The alt-right didn't exist. The new conservatives. Alt-right specifically means white nationalists. Regular conservatives. It didn't, though. But let's not get into that. It didn't write it at first.

No, it did. This is a big mistake a lot of people on the new right, as they call it, make. They assumed alt-right meant alternative to the right when it was actually coined by white nationalists in the first place. Yes, that is accurate. Yeah. I made the same assumption error early part of 2015. I was like, all right, that sounds cool. But it's not. No, wait, delete, delete, delete.

Yeah, delete. Not cool at all. Delete. What is this awful, awful old ideology? Oh, no, I don't like that. Yeah,, delete. Not cool at all. Delete, delete. That's part of the punk of you. What is this awful, awful old ideology? Oh, no, I don't like that. Yeah, I don't like that at all. But the intersection on the left, it's the same thing. Yeah, no doubt.

Yeah. So then we should kind of get off track with it. Can we talk about Rittenhouse for a minute? Because I think they're not going to charge him. No, there's new, there's an update on the Kyle Rittenhouse stuff. He won't be charged in Illinois. Yeah, did you hear about it, Jack? that means what's that mean narrative debunked that he crossed state lines the gun to go to a protest all right illinois straight up said

there's no evidence to suggest he had a gun in illinois at all he just showed up in wisconsin somebody he was working he was working in in kenosha yeah i think the i think we you know this kind of wraps up to the earlier stuff we were talking about just with tearing statues down, the riots, the unrest, the creepy, weird ideologies. I was talking to, I was actually talking to CNN reporter recently, uh, like the other day for quite some time. It was funny. Like you're not for, you're in trouble.

Maybe, maybe I'm like, maybe they're actually trying to do a story and they're lying to me about like, just trying to have a, have a conversation. Maybe it's all bunk or whatever. I don't care. I'll talk to people. Right. And so, you know, they were asking about what's going on and stuff. And I asked them, you know about Kyle Rittenhouse?

Of course. Of course. I said, you know about the security guard in Denver? Yeah. And I was like, and you know what those two stories have in common? Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't a white supremacist. The security guard wasn't Antifa. They were normies.

They were normies who came out with guns and shot people on the other side. For whatever reason, whatever you, I'm not trying to equivocate the morality of each incident. They're different. But the senior reporter actually was the one who brought up that Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't a white supremacist. Saying like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like everyone's trying to claim that Rittenhouse is like a white supremacist. No, he was a kid who came out with a gun and you know was was like got into with people

and then people got shot and i'm like exactly and then the cnn reporter was like that's scarier it's scarier that it was just some regular kid who worked for a local as a local lifeguard who came out with a gun that's scary and then i was like and that's the denver security guard this like bernie bro guy not super like people are trying to act like he's antifa because i i guess they want tribalist points to like make antifa look bad he was a bernie bro he was a bernie bro and he was very active during occupy wall street but for the past several years he's working on a farm selling goat milk and chicken eggs or something like that eggs and uh i i i saw a post about like him and his girlfriend and things they did over the past several years unlicensed got a job as a contractor and shot a trump supporter in the face

now here's the crazy thing about that denver guy but had he been out in the protests before being violent or doing anything i seem to have seen images collages of him at a various number of events 10 years ago is that was that was from a bunch of photos from him during occupy wall street yeah in 2011 2012 so look it's scarier that he was a he was not antifa yeah he wasn't organized he wasn't out with black clad revolutionary communists and socialists he was a bernie bro watching leftist youtube videos and he went to a trump to a trump rally and he watching leftist youtube videos and he went to a trump to a trump rally and he shot a dude in the face he went to a cop rally a pro-police rally i think

it's both it's like scarier but it's also not scarier because it's it sucks to see people that aren't already radicalized do stuff like that but gang violence is terrifying too so i don't know i think it's hard to say which would be worse. They're both pretty horrible. Sure, but I think it's scarier that regular people are now being pulled in. Yeah, but I mean, that's American militia system. It's supposed to be American people defending themselves. I mean, I totally agree with you. It's terrifying, and it really shouldn't happen.

Shouldn't's a weird word. Random people coming out and, for whatever reason, being put in a situation where they have to do it or they feel they have to do it that's that's scary man i i remember talking about this stuff back in like 2017 2018 and i had so many people say like oh tim the proud boys fighting with antifa is not that big of a deal most people don't know or care who they are okay well now what about some random kid in in antioch illinois and what about some like bernie bro working as a security guard no like violence is there regarding Regarding Rittenhouse too, I want to go into it a little bit more. So I don't think we've talked about

it on this show yet, but the guy that was coming up after him got charged, right? So there's new charges. Yeah, new charges. Whoa, the guy who got shot in the bicep, that guy got charged? No. The guy who fired the first shot got charged. So this is from Cassandra. Yeah, so I always say this. I don't like the Gateway Pundit, man.

But we do like Cassandra. But yes, we do like Cassandra Fairbanks. She does a pretty good job. And she has the charging documents. Okay. So the first dude, I forgot what his name is, like Joshua Zeminski or something. Yeah, yeah. Is that his name?

Yeah. Well, Josh, yeah. That was his name? Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm just like agreeing with you. Oh, I don't know if I was getting his name right. Do you want to pull it up?

Do you have something I can just agreeing with you. Oh, I don't know if I was getting his name right. Do you want to pull it up? Do you have something I can pull up? Yeah. So he fired a round into the air, triggering Kyle to turn around. And then Rosenbaum reached for his gun, and Kyle went pop, pop, pop. Dude goes down. And I think that's going to slam dunk his self-defense case. I think that the only thing he'll end up actually sitting on for the most part is going to be unlawful. He was supposed to be carrying a weapon.

But the fact that they're charging the other dude for shooting, come on, you can't deny self-defense then. Someone fired a gunshot, he turned around. I was watching all those live streams live that night. And man, I felt like, of course, not there, not the same, but I felt like the energy. People didn't know the chaos, the shots going off, live streams, people running down the street, the whole thing. All of it rang to me, self-defense, as I was watching it in real time over the streams. And this poor kid, 17 years old. But one people, your point is that he's a regular kid.

Yeah. And he believed that he needed to defend private property from the mob. They had just all over the place. They were going to blow up a gas station. Burning down whole fields full of cars and buildings and police stations and the whole thing. And the cops weren't stopping them. No, nobody's stopping them. That's why I think we're headed towards, man, it's not supposed to be a pessimistic thing, but, you know, calamity.

Yeah. Because because hold on. Think about this. Yeah. You've got the social media companies actively shutting down a story that makes Joe Biden look really, really bad. Right. What can the right do to counter the fact that you've got people laughing in their faces figuratively about how they're cheating, about how they're like, there is nothing you can say that we will ever allow and we are going to win and there's nothing you can do to stop

us. The rioters have gone out for now 135 plus days, smashing, breaking, destroying, and they're laughing, saying we're going to keep letting them go and there is nothing you can do to stop us and trump's trying deputizing these cops in certain areas but what what worries me is what do you where do you think it goes if if the right keeps getting told you can't speak and and we're going to burn down your neighborhood what do you think what do you think happens i think well on one hand i think that what I see happening already is that people are forming their own communities, right? They're already getting together with the idea of socializing, being professional, working with having their own media environments, their own information, their own sensemaking teams, their own sort of communities to actually put up a barrier between themselves and the rest of the world.

Now, that's not going to solve your legal issues or constitutional issues or whatever else. There's so many complications when you start trying to think about, oh, a civil war, it's not going to be anything like the, you know, 1860s. It's not even gonna be anything like world war two. It's going to be some weird hybrid thing of like Afghanistan where there's you're here, they're everywhere. We're all everywhere. It's all happening all the time. And for me personally, I'm thinking in my mind, we need to start a new phase in American history, resettle America, repopulate America. There's so much land, so many places to go, so many great things to see and places to live that we need to just have a movement to resettle America and actually just start anew.

And you can do it in some places today. But if we're going to sit here and try to predict how the country comes apart, I think we can't. I think it's unpredictable. You're right. We could set up smaller communities all over the country with magnetic transportation, super fast trains from community to community with solar-powered water condensation in areas. And you could start setting up, with our technology and solar power, new communities. Yes. Remember the first time I came on the show, I was all about the 90 acres for 50,000.

Homesteading? Yeah, 50,000-person medieval town is all you need, 90 acres. So this has been on my mind, how it shakes out electorally how it shakes out with the military it's all it's it's it's tribal now it's networked it's not geographically centered you've got people in the cities that see it one way people in the country it's not gonna there's not gonna just be like a this side of the mississippi red this side of the mississippi blue it's not it's just not gonna happen like that one problem i'm having is that i'm moving states and i can't vote.

I'm set up to vote in my old state, but I'm changing states right before the election. And now it's like if I vote in my old state, but I'm a resident of my new state, they might come after me. So I'm just not going to vote because it's too risky. And that's ridiculous that I'm an American citizen and I can't vote because I've moved states. So let's get away with that. You just got to research what the legality is and make sure you do right. But I can't,

I got to get my license. I can't wait another month and a half before I change my, I'm no, no, I have to move forward with my life and that's setting my voting ability down. So you just vote where you register. I think you should be able to vote as an American.

I don't think it matters where you live on this soil. No, I disagree with that. Why? Because we, for one, because larger, denser, We'll be like the Royal College for one. Because larger, denser, wealthier populations strip the rights away from smaller – But why does a guy in my old town represent me more than a guy in this – like why can't I just pick the person that represents me the most?

Because there are small areas that are impoverished and have limited resources. And if we don't have the barriers, you end up with Los Angeles and San Diego voting away the water rights, surface water rights from Tulare County. And that literally happened. So then you have a bunch of poor migrant families who one day turn their water faucet on and no water comes out. Why?

Because the cities are richer and there's more people and they won the right to take the water away. So we create jurisdictions to protect the minority. That's what this country is built upon. That's the point of like, partly the point that for college. So yeah, it's very important that you vote based on where you are and who represents your area. So what's up with gerrymandering, where they'll take a area that was previously functional, and then they'll split it so that

certain people now have control of the area. It's gerrymandering has become extremely corrupted. Yeah, that's kind of ruined local voting. I mean, absolutely. Sort of like court packing at the local legislative level. But let's just carry your question out a little bit farther. I think the first thing that happens that we see is just a decreased reliance upon the federal government. Right. Your corporations take more power.

Your local communities take more power. Your associations begin to take more power. Your local communities take more power. Your associations begin to create more power. And then you just start thinking about the federal government less and less, unless you're the one who is like co-opted the federal government to do your bidding. But it's really, because the future is so unpredictable, what I have decided to do is to take action today and to build a community starting today. So what I'm doing is I'm building a community of men with like-minded values, shared values is how you're going to start to create new communities based on

shared values. Because one of the things that's very clear is that we don't have common united, you know, common values. The common values that once made us a country seem to be no longer. So we need to find people that you have common values with and then begin to build a new,

a new civilization within. You have a website regarding that too. What is that website? Right. So the Liminal Order is the organization that I'm talking about, and it's founded on our three core values of brotherhood, masculinity, and sovereignty. So we're very focused on building our own personal sovereignty. We have hundreds of guys around the country, even around the world at this point. And the long-term goal is to create a situation which you can socialize, work with, engage with, do service for, and just have a life with people who share your values right off the jump. Well, one of the big issues that's

like one of the biggest problems we have is tribalism. Yes. And it's only going to get worse. Yeah. Yeah. Because technology, the technology is feeding the tribalism now. So I have a rise because of the imagery and the empathetic triggers that we can send around to people instantaneously. So you see a video and it triggers an empathetic reaction in you. And you know that if it triggers this empathetic reaction, you're part of this tribe. And if it triggers a different reaction, you're part of that tribe. And so these images keep coming out and they keep coming out and they keep triggering us and triggering us. We start to make a pattern and we start to recognize a pattern and then we sort according to these tribes and their network. So it's like all online. And then these things are now emerging and we see these alliances,

right? So Black Lives Matter, Antifa, they're not the same, but they have an alliance right now because they have a common goal, right? And so the corporations also have a common goal, which is to diminish the power of the federal government. That's why you see the corporations, BLM and Antifa all on the same team today because they all have the same common goal. They have what's called network alignment. So that's the future of our politics and of our populace and our civilization is like these tribes, which are built on empathetic triggers and reactions. And then they emerge and then they have alignment. And then that's how you have these alliances they're not gonna last forever but for right now that's why you see like BLM Antifa corporations all together on the

same side where can people follow your podcast the podcast is Jack Murphy live on YouTube Jack Murphy live comm is the website follow me on twitter at Jack Murphy live we're going live tomorrow at 11 with John Robb I mean John Robb is a special forces guy. He served all over the world. He wrote a book called Brave New War where he studied tribalism and networked counterinsurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan as well. And we're seeing that here. We're seeing it already happen here.

Antifa is like ISIS basically in the way that they form and the way that they arrange themselves and the way they conduct themselves. Do you see what that ex-Facebook chief said what uh from the social dumb his name's tim kendall he said a threat to democracy that could lead to civil war the he's basically saying social media oh yeah social media is a threat to democracy it's tribalizing people yes and it's factionalizing it's gonna lead he says it could lead to a civil war yes agreed agreed because it's factionalizing. It's going to lead. He says it could lead to a civil war. Yes. Agreed. Agreed. Because it's making us arrange ourselves around worldviews that are totally incompatible with these empathetic triggers that don't relate. And then you start to think that the other people are evil.

Yeah. But the crazy thing is, it's the left. It's the left doing. So it's really funny to have a conversation where you're like you view the other as evil, right? Yeah. Because the left certainly says the same things about the right. But I kind of view it like light and dark, bizarro and normal or whatever. Yeah.

The left is a bizarro reality. Right. They believe fake things like Russiagate. Yeah. They ignore real things like the Hunter Biden scandal. They believe the Hunter Biden scandal is fake even though there's photos. So what do they do? They have to censor the information.

Otherwise, people will realize they're in bizarro world this is the good this is the key takeaway from the hunter biden thing who is changing the rules of the game that's how you know who's losing yeah they're losing so they have to change the rules of the game every single time change the election we got to change the election we're going to do mail-in voting gotta change the supreme court i love you know i really love the mail-in voting thing if the democrats just listened to trump they would have been way better off now they're in serious trouble serious trouble the atlantic wrote about this mail-in voting is a high margin of error yeah and now the democrats have gone all in on it and they're gonna get disqualified so ridiculous so many yeah we're looking at people

with like cognitive dissonance and then they've formed now what's known as like the crazy alt-left these people that are like just unable to see reality when the emails are there and you see oh the new information violates my past belief in what reality is it's actually there's a really really easy way to break this down you want to know how you're in the real world you can say the clan white supremacy and neo-nazis are despicable and disgusting, and so is Antifa. There you go. Right. The left can't do that. Right.

Now, they'll say things like, oh, I condemn all violence. Say Antifa. Well, Antifa's a myth. Right. That's what Nadler said. Why is it? They condemn Black Lives Matter extremists, praise the good, peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters. They can't do it.

Okay. I am not advocating violence. I don't advocate violence, but the United States was formed on a violent revolution, and if they hadn't gotten violent, it wouldn't have happened. We didn't start the fight. We ended it.

I mean, whoever started it. The British did. A gunshot, shot her around the world. That's a civil war. It was a siege of a fort. The Boston Massacre. The Boston Massacre is when it really started to take up yeah when they when the british tried seizing the weapons from the colonists and they got

fired back yeah they did and then people started fighting back so so we're my listen listen police brutality people are fighting back i mean it's like i don't condone the behavior but tiananmen square could the people have overthrown the chinese communist party without becoming violent against them obviously not because the Chinese rolled in with tanks. But you're talking about fake news. The police brutality narrative is fake. I agree with you. It's different than being run by a king.

It's totally different. There are instances of police brutality. Police brutality is a very serious problem when it occurs, and these cops should be arrested. There's also a problem with cops lying to protect each other when they do commit crimes. But there is not some widespread group of secret police who go around hunting down minorities like they've literally been saying right there there were according to the washington post tracking 13 unarmed black men who were shot and killed last year in the united states out of 375 estimated police interactions that is a ridiculously fake narrative when a cop shoots somebody and kills them it should be investigated

and we should treat it very very seriously i'm not a big fan of the idea of qualified immunity and i believe we need police reform i believe we need criminal justice reform i believe the drug war has failed yes but to go around now saying abolish the police dismantle the police and we're defending ourselves because you saw fake news is not the same thing as defending yourself on the british i'm not in a place where i think that we need violence to right the situation. I don't think it's that bad. Well, I mean, you look at these lunatics in Michigan. Hold on, hold on.

I do not advocate for violence either. However, at some point you need to understand that you're in a burlap sack and you're either the mongoose or you're the king cobra, and which one of you is coming out of that sack and that's what i'm starting to feel like is like okay i don't want to have a fight but like dude they're not stopping like this thing is just keeping coming at you it's like a zombie what are you gonna do this is this is the question i was asking before and i said what do you think comes next yeah if you have uh twitter and Facebook shutting down one of the oldest newspapers in the country because it proves Joe Biden is a lying, corrupt piece of human garbage because they want him to win.

What happens when that lying, corrupt piece of garbage actually wins? And then does something horribly corrupt and terrible and nasty? They're not going to report. Obviously, they're going to hide it. It doesn't prove it, but it is is evidence i'm saying if it does like i'm being more figurative and bombastic so what i'm saying is if you're on the right and the perspective of people on the right is that it proves it i didn't in my segment i actually said here's the argument from the left they're arguing that opportunity doesn't mean he actually met them but that's ridiculous so listen if joe biden said i never talked to

my son about this and then an email comes out saying i met your dad and i work for barisma sounds like he's lying right so inter so media has been intervening the whole time lying fake news ridiculous remember when abc edited the footage of trump to make it seem like he was throwing the fish food in? Oh, my God. Seemingly ridiculous and innocuous things that are so insanely fake. Or the paper towels or whatever. Yeah. It's fake, fake, fake.

So you're being lied to. They're cheating. They're manipulating. And now they're straight up saying, you know what? The New York Post published this story, which is a huge expose. It makes Biden look bad. Shut it down. Shut it down.

Because we don't know where it came from. No, no. Come on, dude. That's what they're saying. because they can't confirm how they got it they're not allowed to that's ridiculous that's not true twitter said right the the story confirmed where they got it they got it from the hard drive of uh a repairman who was who was given the laptop twitter terms of service that if if they produce a story without it was hacked information they definitively said it was something it was not. They are lying.

Yeah. Hands down lying. The guy from Facebook who announced the censorship worked for the Democrats, the DCCC. And he straight up says we're suppressing this. So I'm telling you, man, from the perspective of the right, I feel like we're sitting on a powder keg. And the only thing that can happen is that it happens. The powder keg go boom? No, the no. Oh, no, no. The only thing that can happens is that the Democrats win. They take over a corrupt government ensues. The cronies continue enriching themselves while selling out our government and our country and our corporate and our and our manufacturing base. And that's the

end of it. So here's why this is a really big deal. We are on the cusp of having technology that is capable of silencing all of us automatically and then doing it in a way that almost can't be stopped. And so if the wrong people get the technology, they're able to create what John Robb calls the long night. Okay. It's happening. Imagine you live in Hong Kong and you're a pro-democracy night. Okay. It's happening. Imagine you're live in Hong Kong and you're a pro-democracy person. You're definitely experiencing the long night now, right?

They facial recognition, track you everywhere you go, social credit scores, whatever those people, pro-democracy folks in Hong Kong, they're in big trouble, right? What happens if that happens here? They have control of social media. They have control of our networks, communication, technology. They can change the laws. They can implement their AI. All of a sudden, you can't do anything on the net at all, ever, period, done, finished. It's already happened to a lot of people. It has happened to me, but I fought back.

Luckily, I could. Did Enrique tell the story about MailChimp? I think so. They cancel everybody. No, no, no. Enrique didn't have a MailChimp. He never had one. And the leftists complained and MailChimp claimed they cancel everybody. No, no, no. He didn't have a MailChimp. He never he never had one. And the leftists complained and MailChimp claimed they banned him.

But he never had an account. Literally, they lied. Wow. To just say they did it, too. For clout. We need an alternate system. We're building an alternate system. That's what the liminal order is.

Alternate system. It's information militia. That's what we call it. Info militia is our job. We serve our we go out we find information we synthesize now the media is going to say jack murphy's self-proclaimed militia i'm not even kidding information doesn't matter by the way by the way being in the militia is part of being in america yeah that's for sure which is also what i think hung up trump on that do Do you disavow militias? He's like, how can you disavow militias? These guys in Michigan, though, morons. You know why?

Because they won. Who are you talking about? The guys in Michigan who wanted to kidnap Whitmer or whatever. Yeah. The court already ruled she had no power and the AG said she's done. And if they didn't do that, that's why I'm saying like violence certainly isn't the answer. And these ridiculous extrajudicial acts are not working, especially when you winning in the courts so you know forgive me for being too pessimistic on a lot of the stuff i think it's possible that the media is lying we know that you you said it well

look who's changing the rules they're losing and maybe that's the case yeah maybe they're trying to maintain this facade of power but that's really being stripped away from the inside out and i've had so many conversations with people that are saying straight up, they're not politically active, but man, they're voting for Trump. Yeah. I have not met anybody who said they voted for Trump. Poor switching. I've seen the DNC people, the Trump-Grett people.

I've never met a person in the real world who said, I voted for Trump and now I regret it. Right. Not once. Nine million Democrats ditched the party to vote for trump in 2016 and not a single one is going to go back you wrote a book about that i wrote a book democrats are deplorable find it on amazon five-star reviews over a hundred we moving up the list sales are brisk people want the story you know why they want the story is because it speaks to them and it talks about their transition and the experience of what it's like to become awake and to get red pilled and to make a

move that was bold. It's hard to vote for Donald Trump after you voted for the Democrats. You want it? You don't know what the reality is. Tell me the reality. The reality is once you see the truth, you are broken out from bizarro world. Totally. Every single person i've talked to about how they went from democrat to deplorable it's a story about how they watched a video of trump speaking or investigated something on their own yeah brandon struck the reason why facebook and twitter are desperately trying to shut down this story about hunter biden is because it will snap you out of their bizarro world instantly 100 joe biden, I did not talk to my son about this. Yeah.

Well, all of a sudden, here's an email. Apparently, that's not true. And there's evidence upon evidence. They're desperately trying to contain this. Yeah. And they're losing. It's a one-way street, the red pill. It's a one-way ticket, dude.

It's a one-way ticket. And more people, it's happening today. I got red-pilled in 2007 about, is when I started getting all this information about 9-11 and like the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and all this, like the war,

military industrial complex. And I tried to go back to sleep. It was so hard to be there when no one else, I felt so alone in the world that 2009 came around and Obama got elected. I was like,

I can just rest easy. Obama's going to fix it all. Three years go by and chaos begins. tried to stay asleep 2014 syria all of a sudden and so i that woke me back up going into syria was a no-no no that and then from then on i just i've had to eek my way back into the mate out of the matrix i saw i saw somebody tweet this which i've been saying for years now but somebody tweeted it and then somebody big retweeted it said, look, the only poll you need is that is that no one that voted for Trump isn't. And and like fewer people are voting for the Democrats.

That's all you need to know. Johnny Rotten, punk legend, voted for Hillary Clinton, voting for Trump now. Right. I mean, Tim Pool, milquetoast fence hitter, didn't vote for Trump in 2016, voting for Trump now. Democrat to the plurable. I believe it all started. I'm just kidding.

But it did. We did have a very good conversation. First time I was on here, we had a conversation first time. And I went back, check the comments afterwards. And in the comments, there were like thousands of your guys saying, thank God, Jack Murphy's asking Tim the questions we always wanted him to ask. Thank God he's saying everything we've been saying in here for years. And when I saw the one with Adam where you were finally, finally came out, I was like, man, I dropped a couple super chats in there myself.

I was like, hell yeah, I got Tim. Well, it's the Middle East stuff. Yeah. I mean, I remember earlier in the year when I was like, if he appoints Tulsi to a security advisor, Yang to an economic advisor, and gets us out of the war in iraq like i'll happily whistle a tune while i go in and push that button down uh it's not gonna yang i think went the wrong direction yeah he went totally establishment and now i'm kind of disappointed because he was he was he was a voice of reason in a lot of ways not that i think ubi is necessarily a good idea uh tulsi gabbard i think was also desperately trying to pull bring people together as best she could and she couldn't you know she wasn't strong enough but you know getting rid of

too strong that's why they silenced her yeah she would but i mean she's a progressive and she was really trying to speak to conservatives and trump voters and everything and she had some conservative endorsements too but uh i think trump's got to do something on the war on drugs i criminal justice criminal justice reform was good yeah but the the middle eastern peace deals dude i remember when north korea happened with trump and i was i was like i was welling up man i was feeling that emotion deep inside me because i don't think people realize what it means that trump crossed the dmc into north korea right it means the north korean soldiers try grabbing south korean soldiers and pulling them over to like take them away and trump willingly walked walked into north korea

with no security at all with kim they smiled shook hands and then they walked back together and i was like yeah could be the end of the and now there's there's murmurs that they're desperately you know trying to figure out a way to end the actual conflict. I don't know if it can happen. But when you're speaking in the Middle East, what's happening in the Middle East is a fantastic thing to talk about. I just had Dave Raboy on, a Middle East specialist, and he was telling me that what's happening in the Middle East is a rise of a new nationalism. Like these Arab states, they're nationalist states. They want to take care of themselves.

They want to do what's right for them and their people. And because of that, it's the dismantling of the globalist sort of empire, right? And then in America, that's what we're fighting against too. People on the right, most people are nationalists or at least anti-globalists, right? And we want to just have a sense of taking care of ourselves, doing things that make sense for us in the world today. And so when you see this happening in the Middle East, it's very similar and it's going to strengthen israel it's going to strengthen saudi arabia it's going to strengthen united arab emirates it's incredible it's it's it i i hear you but it's not even a it's not even national globalist it's authoritarianism i i have zero problem if we if we created some kind of one world government or society so long it was built upon our ideals

free speech constitutional rights human rights and then everybody you know had those equal rights i'd be totally fine with something like a federation yes with a prime directive so i'll put it this way imagine there is a one world government but like the states the u.s is sovereign in its own internal laws and decision making and the international laws govern between countries we try doing that we do that right now we have we have at least super national organizations that make rules and things that are non-democratically enacted and that's what they don't like in the that's the problem the problem is the authoritarian imposition of these rules if we had a liberty

based system of international cooperation and agreement, but individuals were guaranteed their rights. What's the problem? I love you, Tim, but this is part of your transition still, I think. Don't be totally nice about it. I mean, at the end of the day, what we've seen is that unless you make the American people the priority of the government that governs the American people, then the American people get. I'm not saying not to do that. I know, but in that circumstance, you're trying to take care of people in this place in that place and be everybody all happy i'm not saying that but you'd say the ohio i'm saying i'm saying if we have uh look look at the laws of the states yeah

we have a federal government the federal government isn't particular i mean it's decently strong but trump can't intervene in these states where riots are going on that's local rules yeah so those these these states have their own jurisdiction and their own laws, and they can work for the citizens of their states. They just don't want to. So I think we can have international cooperation and agreements,

but they're not being done right. They're being done by authoritarians who want to enrich themselves. You wouldn't even have to have a global president. I think the idea of a president's passe, where you'd have a council of however many, 12 to 30 people or something. We have the UN. Artificial intelligences that advise's passe, we would have like a council of however many, 12 to 30 people or something. We have the UN.

Artificial intelligences that advise them. And we would have something like a democratically elected body of people. These are great ideas. However, I will tell you that the trends that I've identified and people I talked to identified is that this era of expanding is done. This era of indiscriminate expansion,

which we've seen is done. Social media expansion, NATO expansion, World Trade Organization expansion, UN expansion, all that finished. And what we're seeing now is strategic disconnection. And we see in that social distancing. We see that in social media, erecting barriers between yourself and the network. We're seeing that among nation states. We're seeing among tribes. So like this expansion era, done.

So here's a question. Here's a question then. What happens when one country burns through its resources and is desperate need for more? Well, I guess we'll have to deal with that on a case-by-case basis. But if you're saying that they're coming after my resources, then we definitely have to defend mine, right?

Yeah. So war breaks out. Yeah. I think that one of the arguments that these like internationalist organizations have made is that all these free trade agreements will prevent war. I actually don't think that's true. I think it causes destabilization. I think there's a way you can come about making sure it is seriously challenging.

This is a phrase they used to have. I mean, like I said before, I went to George Connell School of Foreign Service and I studied international affairs and international economics. And what they call that is the embrace of death. And what they mean by that is let us embrace you. We'll trade with you. We'll give you our culture and stuff. And then hopefully that'll kill your authoritarian impulses. It'll kill all of your human rights violations.

It does not work. Does not work. We trade with China. It's not preventing a conflict with China. In in fact what we've done is completely enrich them they are mercantilist nation who are out there trying to collect as much money and assets as possible and here we are just with our deficit just sending them assets probably both because we've been able to unify with Mexico and Canada in a way that wasn't in the past well Trump actually fixed that I think I know that

it's language language fixed it in a lot of ways to being able to communicate. But I think the neural net, speaking of communication is actually going to push things towards expansion. So the board. Yeah. Well, there'll be no war.

Everyone's working for the, for the collective. It doesn't have to be like the board, but that, that we're breaking down into tribes. I don't think is actually going to continue. It does seem like we're kind of, um, uh, you know, of imploding or tribalizing.

Yeah, we're tribalizing. But with this neural net and the Internet, we're so connected. I don't think so. I think what's happened with Twitter and Facebook and YouTube is that people can now express their opinions on grand scales, revealing which tribe they were in or what ideas they held yes normally the guy sitting in his kitchen would would be watching cnn and he'd go ah this guy's a moron but who would he tell nobody right so imagine this if we all got neural link you know elon musk's brain connection thing and then clicked in to this like internet where you can just think and see what people are thinking whatever they decide to put out it would be twitter on crack it would it would be like you'd immediately know everyone

you hate you'd learn all of these things you hate about them twitter it's like you could be friends with somebody you know 10 years like before twitter and you'd hang out because of your shared interests dude you want to go to the game then one day twitter comes out now that person says you know they can't stand pepperoni pizza and you're like whoa pepperoni pizza is my thing your shared interests. Dude, you want to go to the game? Then one day Twitter comes out. Now that person says, you know, they can't stand pepperoni pizza. And you're like, whoa,

pepperoni pizza is my thing. Right. And all of a sudden you're like, bro, are you an anti pepperoni pizza guy? You're into pepperoni dude. And they start fighting. And do you think tribalism is the natural order of humanity?

Yeah. I mean, well, so I got a couple of things to say here. Game a is the way that we've organized our societies in the beginning, small tribes, 30, 150, 200 people. And we've now extrapolated that societal arrangement to where we are today. That's why it's not working.

Okay. And the second thing is, is when you talk about social media being the thing that's going to kill us, basically civil war, whatever the reason is, is because it breaks down social cohesion. So we use narratives. The reason why we are in tribes is because we have shared imagined stories, shared imagined orders that we believe in and we belong to. And I know in your imagination, you, we, we, we agree, right? And when there's only one person, you telling you what that story is, it's very easy to have cohesion. So when Walter

Cronkite is up there just talking to the entire nation at night, everybody's watching him. He can tell you the story. We all believe it or maybe not, but at least we have a social cohesion around that story. We had one to many. Now we have many to many, right? We have everybody talking. We have every story possible, every narrative possible. And so people are finding the narrative that fits best with them and their physical makeup, chemical makeup, history, genes, culture, whatever, whatever story works with them and their physical makeup, chemical makeup, history, genes, culture, whatever, whatever story works with them. And so now you've got in your imagined order, your brain, you are now in a tribe with a guy that believes that same story. And so what happens when there's more than one story, there's a thousand stories, there's a million stories. So now we have a

thousand or a million imagined orders. And therefore now we have a thousand million tribes. So it's, it's a, a it's a it's a language control thing it's a it's a mental image thing it's a imagined you know imagine order in your brain now it can be anyone out there if you just find the one that feels right that just fits with and this is why they create like fears of like aliens have come or there's an asteroid they'll try and scare the human race into believing in one great thing because fear is an easy way to create a narrative rallying everybody around a cause yeah it would definitely be uniting if we had if we or they'll try and scare the human race into believing in one great thing because fear is an easy way to create a narrative. I mean, it would be unifying.

Rallying everybody around a cause. Yeah, it would definitely be uniting if we had a common enemy like that. I was so surprised at the pandemic that people didn't unite more. There was a brief moment. Yeah. There was a brief moment in March where it almost felt like that, where the pandemic was going to be the thing that brought us together. But it turned out there was so much lies

and misinformation control and whatever else that it just, by April, that was done. I got an idea. What if we worked together to stage a fake alien invasion? We can't talk about it. You already let the cat out of the bag. Squid aliens. I'm in.

Let's do it. Let's do it. We'll put it on TV, and then it'll end all war and conflict. What's his name did that? The War of worlds oh yeah that didn't go yeah yeah great radio broadcast from the 30s i think i was right the next show the next show we just just live we just play it live straight totally straight 8 p.m and we'll like we'll have the cameras go out oh no what's happening oh. Oh, we're being attacked by...

Oh, no. Oh, Jack. Oh, they're abducting him. I mean, the crazy thing is there could be aliens, and we could be in trouble. So we should probably live like that. There could be an asteroid that could smash into Earth and destroy it if we're not aware of it.

So we should live like that. Yeah, but your solution to the asteroid problem is a giant microwave cannon. I'm talking infrared lasers. You're wrong. I have no idea what you're talking about. You spray water into the atmosphere as a sphere around the earth and then charge it with an electrical current.

So it deflects the asteroid. No, because the energy would still transfer into the particles and then push earth out of its orbit. You're so dumb. Gotta move it faster, Tim. Lydia, help me. Jack, can you believe this, this, this, this moisture? This guy, look at his shirt.

Take away his social media immediately. These, these moisturists are dangerous. Do not link to the moisturists. I'm starting a new group, right? You know, I heard moisturists, Nazis. Definitely. Definitely. Do you, do you know what I was going to do?

You know, I also wanted to put a military base on the moon. Nazis, you know, that okay. Sy do? You know who else wanted to put a military base on the moon? Nazis. Nazis. You know that OK symbol that people think is white supremacy? I'm not going to make it right now. Don't do it. But if you think about it, it's a W for water. Wow. Oh, my gosh.

You have just definitively proved. You just called me out. Moisturists are Nazis. No, no, listen. You guys ever watch The Fairly Odd Parents? No. They had one of the best episodes of Break This Down. Listen. Everybody, no. No, listen. I am going to educate you on

important cartoons. We got this. The Fairly Odd Parents is about Timmy Turner, who has two fairies who grant him wishes. So he wants a world where everyone's the same because he doesn't want to be made fun of anymore. So everybody turns into a blob. And somehow they still find a way to form tribes and insult each other when they have no characteristics yeah it's actually a pretty good episode interesting for a kid's show interesting it is the natural

state of affairs to have affinity groups to have people that you like more than other people and people that you're committed to working with and that you believe the same thing it's common and that is that because in our historical historical DNA is because it protected us from, it is what actually helped us. If you read sapiens, which is not entirely the best book in the world, but this is a very key point. It is what has allowed us to evolve to this point is our ability to organize around a shared imagined order, something that's in our brains. So it's not only just in our history, it's actually fundamental to our,

our evolution to where we are to this point today. There's no getting rid of it. The myth, they call it the myth of what, whatever you believe is the shared ideal. They call it a myth. So like religion or mathematics or the wage gap. Yes.

Or the wage gap. Exactly. So by the way, I write a lot about shared imagined orders and the fundamental myths of the left in my book democrat to deplorable on amazon look at that on amazon book on tape with that i have as a matter of fact and my audible release is going to be as soon as they approve it it's been uploaded audiobook is forthcoming any minute check my twitter feed jack murphy live oh cool go subscribe to my YouTube page. You guys are watching

this on YouTube, right? Yeah. Oh my God. Go subscribe. Jack Murphy Live. We're going live tomorrow at 11 a.m. with John Robb. Did you narrate it? I did not, actually. I'm not listening then. I want to show you this meme I saw earlier that made me laugh. Show me memes. So it's a busty woman saying,

sexual preference is offensive and outdated. And then this scraggly old depressed looking thing saying health care please you have to explain this meme to me yes what you have to explain it to me what do you mean i didn't understand it when i first saw it you don't understand this meme oh uh so amy coney barrett said that she would never discriminate against someone based on their sexual preference and all of a sudden the media erupted saying how dare you say sexual preference that's that offensive, implying it's a choice. And like me, I've asked a bunch of my friends, did you know this?

They said, no, I had no idea. It's because it's not true. So anyway, this meme is pointing out that the media is having a collective fit over the fact that Amy Coney Barrett said something totally irrelevant. And all anybody is asking for is a conversation on health care. And it's like a leftist meme, OK, where they're like, we medicare for all we want health care but i'm like i mean we're not even starting there you said health care i agree we need to figure out health care and they're too busy asking amy coney barrett about her stupid words that's what the media is giving us well you want to know what's even scarier about that is the definition of preference according to

webster last week, involved sexual preference. And then they changed it after that question to say, this is offensive. You can't use it anymore. Wait. So if I prefer a silver computer to a green computer, that first of all, I'm not choosing. Well, I'm not choosing to prefer that. Right. I just like the silver one.

But you can be gender fluid and or non-binary well but but those individuals are different jack let me tell you something tell me tim you know the appropriate phrases no tell me sexual orientation there you go and you know why that's racist because i don't know let me think the asians you see my tweet i did orientation the word hold on hold on gave it away the word orientation i so when i when i heard someone someone told me this like this is really interesting somebody said uh that you know sexual preference is offensive so i tweeted it i tweeted this person like what's the appropriate way to say it they said sexual orientation i immediately saw orient and i was like i wonder what the root of this word is so i i google searched uh orientation and it it originated

in the 19th century from the word Orient, meaning Eastern Asian countries. Orient is an extremely offensive term for Asian nations. And I Google searched Orient is racist and found this big thing breaking down like old art from Europe, old plays, and how they depicted the Orient and Oriental people. And it's offensive because it was derogatory stereotypes about the meek and pathetic Asians. And so they've replaced a word preference, which doesn't mean choice. It doesn't mean choice at all. And they've chosen now a word rooted in an offensive slur

because orientation is derived from Orient. Now, here's the best part. The word Orient is just Latin for from the East, whereas Occident is from the West. And that's where the phrase came from. So even Orient isn't really offensive. It just literally was a latin for from the east whereas occident is from the from the west right and that's where the phrase came from so even orient isn't really offensive it just literally was a latin phrase meaning from the east my sexual occidental occidentalism so we were having some fun the other day pointing out the absurdity and all this media crap on my twitter feed and when uh 88 of amy comey barrett's colleagues from University of Notre Dame wrote a letter saying that she shouldn't be like, you know, going to the Supreme Court. So 88. Why 88? So, you know, we did like, come on, 88.

This is obviously 14. This is obviously a dog whistle, which is exactly what people on the left would say about somebody on the right. If they did anything that involved the number 88, that involved the number 14 especially if you put them together dude there was there was a guy who like is one of these researchers against white supremacy and he tweeted something like i have 14 880 followers i need someone to unfollow me right now something like that and i was like you're insane clinically insane um i was a tons of people unfollowed i'm like good unfollowed oh I'm like, good, unfollow the guy. Seriously.

Oh, too many people. Too many people. Just one. Just one. Just one. How do you feel about Amy? Or follow me. How do you feel about Amy Coney Barrett?

How do I feel about ACB? To tell you the truth, I don't know too much about her, to be honest. I know that she's a working mom that has raised a family and adopted some kids. And frankly, I'm just not a Supreme court specialist by any means. I will say personally that Obersfeld, the gay marriage decision freed me up to become a Trump voter or a Republican. I'm a strong advocate for gay marriage.

I believe gay people should get together and get married just like the rest of us dummies. And if you want to get divorced, get them to get divorced too. But like, cause I'm a civil libertarian, like I'm not a libertarian, but you know, like people should be able to do whatever you want to get divorced get him to get divorced too but like because i'm a civil libertarian like i'm a i'm not a libertarian but you know like people should be able to do whatever they want to do right you know more or less so i believe they should be able to get

married so if her if her uh you know a confirmation on the supreme court brings that back into question i'll be very disappointed it it won't i mean look i'm not going to pretend to be a supreme court specialist or a lawyer at all yeah but she made reference to something called stare decisis let the decision stand yeah and apparently as i was told when we we did a show when she was when like we all assumed she's gonna be confirmed the idea is that her position is if it's already been ruled upon we go from there beautiful you know so we're not going to go back good and that's what trump said about it too when he was being running he was like i considered settled law yeah which is great which is why i was able you know and then hopefully that we'll get some uh cannabis deregulation on there and then

and then all of a sudden sort of any reason that i had to be a democrat uh would be vaporized at that point no pun intended oh yeah well uh let's uh let's let's take some super chat super chats if you haven't already you must smash the like button. Do it for me. And share the show if you do think it's good. It helps spread the word and all that. But smash that like button. Subscribe.

And we got this good question here from Ian Hall. He says, gotta ask, WTF is Ian wearing? Is he embracing his internal barbarian princess? Yes, first of all. First of all, yes. And this is the top of a pajama that I was gifted by an old girlfriend of mine. Thanks. Shout out to Amy.

Thanks. I love it. It's a Starfleet captain's uniform. Yes, the Starfleet. So the red shirt is the officers on the starship. Commanders on the Enterprise. No, just command. Any of the command crew.

Yeah. So you'll see like, you know, forward gunnery. I don't know who would do it. But Geordi, you know, Captain Picard. No, Geordie's an engineer oh you're right Geordie has yellow yeah

and he's an officer bunch of nerds I think Tim should answer this question this is a bandana that I got at Burning Man it was on the ground I found and I've

carried it around ever since oh very good yeah Burning Man's so great I love how they film Quiznos commercials there yeah Burning Man went full corporate well maybe not full

but I went in 2008 when it was cool still cool. I would love to go to Burning Man again. I don't think they're doing that right now, are they? Oh, jeez, you're right. Jeez, I wonder why. All right, we got some more. Virus Lives says, the radical left is looking like a comedy skit right about now.

Yeah, but it's not funny. Sounds about right. So a lot of people are asking, so I'm just going to, for everyone asking, I'm going to do this in one super chat. They're asking about the SEAL Team 6 CIA whistleblower thing. Have you guys heard about this? No. Uh-uh.

I don't know anything about it either i've seen i've seen some posts about it someone claiming that seal team six was killed by the obama administration or something the whole team but i i mean i i have no idea what it is the guys that took out osama bin laden right wasn't that wasn't that who was so yeah yeah i don't know i don't i you know i gotta be honest i don't know what it is it didn't see it pop up anything right now. DJ Zeno says, Ian, I'm smoking weed right now. Trust me, you're wrong.

Love you, bro. Oh, so it is a crack pipe. Dude, the picture of him when it's hanging out of his mouth, I've never passed out with a pipe in my mouth, so it probably was crack. But aren't like

when you're smoking weed out of a bowl, a glass bowl, you just put it up to your lips and then take, you don't put it in your mouth. No, not really, no. Yeah, it up to your lips and then take... You don't put it in your mouth. No, not really. No. Yeah.

A crack pipe, however. Oh, you put it in your mouth? I'm assuming it's different. I don't know anything about it. I'm just saying it's different, right? He's holding it in his mouth. He's like... Yeah, it looks like it.

It's like a cigarette. It's such a weird picture. Look up the picture of him, by the way, if you can find it. It's so weird looking. Don't tweet it. Yeah, don't tweet it. Stacey Ellis says, anyone else caught messed up on crack in the army would have gotten a dishonorable discharge.

I thought that was what he got from the Navy. Everyone is saying SEAL Team 6. Something big must have come about. Someone mentions Kaylee McEnany's got shut down. We got a big old super champ. Here we go. What's this? Peter Bemis says, Tim, please

make a watchable video summarizing the media lies that are influencing the election and the sources that debunk them your voice is a way maybe the only way that liberals who have been tricked by the establishment media can be woken up before the election you know the democrats are about to win instill a real 1984 and you can stop it uh i think i've probably got like 12 videos about that. About like... Because there's no one two-hour long documentary if you want to like shatter the facade or something. It's not a bad idea, though. Make a playlist or something?

Or a two-hour documentary. Or a playlist. Oh, yeah. Oh, what is this? Did you see the latest Project Veritas video of Instagram censoring his tag? No, it's always something with these guys. Geez.

Interesting. They hate Project Veritas. I know, they really do. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. We're going to... Oh, I shouldn't say anything. I shouldn with these guys. Geez. Interesting. They hate Project Veritas. I know, they really do. Oh, yeah, for sure. We're going to... Oh, I shouldn't say anything. I shouldn't say anything. I've revealed too much.

So too much. Let it go. Let it go. I love them. Here we go. Let's see. Instagram. Love them.

Balian says, Tim, you should watch the specials Glenn Beck did on Ukraine. He backs everything up that he says with actual State Department documents. It's pretty interesting. He's pretty thorough. I like him. Yeah. James Nelson says Biden went to the Ukraine round time of emails to pressure the Ukraine government to stop buying natural gas from Russia and instead explore their domestic

sources. Guess which company is the number one supplier of Ukrainian natural gas. I was going to say that sounds pretty good. Do you guys know why one of the one of the likely reasons you know we involved we got involved in syria the cutter pipeline the cutter turkey pipeline yeah yeah so uh cutter we wanted we want a natural gas pipeline to go up into europe to offset the gas prom monopoly so that we could you know russia was jacking up the prices and so syria said our ally russia doesn't want us to do this so we won't do

it and then what was going to happen was i guess iran was going to like a tap into the same natural gas field and then send it through iraq it through syria into europe to double the power of the monopoly and then conveniently for america you know a bunch of revolutionaries just happened to appear in syria and you know the country started crumbling and then you for america you know a bunch of revolutionaries just happened to appear in syria and you know the country started crumbling and then you know we of course sided against the existing government because you know we were not allied with them and uh that's that was reported by the guardian so i don't like this war stuff they're doing you know it's all about money power resources a lot more people saying seal team six says, Tim, if you were to be removed from

YouTube, where else would we be able to find you? Where else would you stream? I would probably be down by the stream fishing, hanging out with a dog and just staring at the sky, kicking back and ignoring everything if that happened. Wait, there's a dog? No, it's a cat. No, there will be.

Future dog. Yeah, yeah. If I get banned from these platforms, I'm just going to get a dog, take my van, go down by the river and just go fishing. Yeah, man. That's it. You know, everything's going to hell in a handbasket and I'll just go fishing. That's all I need. Ian Hall says, to the Navy SEAL, please arrest the idiot across from you for false rank insignia.

Who? He's talking to me. He's talking to me. He's talking to me. I am not a commander in the Federation. Oh, no. This is a costume. What is it? We all know Ian could never in no hellish reality be a commander in the Federation. This is a costume. We all know

Ian could never in no hellish reality be a Starfleet captain. General T. Poole, seriously, the people have spoken. Replace Soy Judas with a cat

high off his face on the nip. Do you want to be replaced by Betsy? Tim wanted to read that super chat. He was like, yeah, I got it now.

It was a big super chat. It's a big one. We'll serve on the Enterprise with you. We'll put Betsy on the table and give her some nip and just have her freak out.

Her ears turn bright red and her face, she's all like, her eyes go crazy. It's all twitchy. And then she passes out with a pipe in her mouth. Isn't it really funny that we give our cats drugs and then laugh about it? We're like giving them drugs and they're freaking out. They're like tripping in front of us or whatever. I don't know what catnip does to cats, but it makes them freak out for sure. Here we go. Adrian curry says adrian curry columbus day was given to italians as an apology for racism massive lynching now the government doesn't care about italians so gave

them the holiday so gave the holiday to totally different people it's just kidding holiday apology oh wow blue satashi says look up in defense of columbus on youtube pretty informative interesting oh and then someone says the same thing ian check out in defense of columbus and exaggerated evil wow what if he's not as bad as i was led to look this video propaganda i heard he was like a psycho like a cruel horrible and his brothers just like we're marauders but i should look into it yeah man check it out we have have from Trip I. He says, Tim and company, why aren't we talking about the released video and audio files from CIA whistleblower proving HRC, Obama and Biden assassinated SEAL Team 6? So that's a little story. I didn't know.

I didn't know much about it. Yeah. I had seen like some posts about it. And I didn't. I just. I don't know. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Confirmed.

That's what's the first question. I don't know. Yeah. Right. That Obama and Hillary had our own Navy SEAL Team assassinated. confirmed that's that's what's the first question i don't know yeah right that obama and hillary had our own navy seal team assassinated that's what they're saying i'm gonna need just a little bit more well to be to be fair then you know some google searching is warranted at least that's what i always say about everything i don't care if you tell me the moon is made of cheese

i'll google search it yeah like isn't that the bare minimum you can do for any story is google search it is not made of cheese okay that was that was that was ridiculous who wrote the book get up there who wrote the books the guy he said i was there i was the guy i was the trigger man didn't he write a book which one about the moon of the navy guys no they did write a book yeah yeah he's on twitter right that's weird yeah the guy who killed osama is on twitter yeah i, he's great. I follow him. He got kicked off a plane recently.

Sure did. Wasn't he SEAL Team 6? Why don't we just at him real quick? I think I heard a story. Is this real? I heard a story that they kicked the door in and shot Osama in his bed. Then I heard a story that they disposed of Osama's body at sea, which was not along the terms of what they would have wanted.

So it was like an insult. But then I heard they hid that. I heard a lot, a couple different stories so far. The Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria. Yeah, and then he came over with his brothers. That's right. He came over on the... Yeah, I could see it.

Crackbot says, Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay and claims a halo for his dishonesty. Robert Heinlein. Interesting. He wrote Starship.

Taylor. Taylor Cook says. And John Adams defended the Redcoats who shot colonists in the Boston massacre to show we are a people of laws demanding respect and dignity. Sure did. Wow. I mentioned that. I like that story. Yeah.

I was like, I just learned that recently. That is a bold, bold man. Yeah. Ian Hall says. Hey, Jack. Ian is secretly reciting Boots by Red Yard Kipling. Lydia, make sure you get Jack's reaction. Were you?

No. What was Boots? I've never read it before. That's Jack's reaction. I don't know. I'm kind of deadpan here. I looked that up. Please whisper it in my ear.

Yeah. So I got nothing right now. I love Kipling. Sean Carter says, Almost my entire town, small 3,000 people, held a few meetings over the last few weeks about closing the town off in case of and actively preparing for civil war. Crap is getting real. What town is that?

I'm very curious. Sean Carter, please tell us. Spike Lee said it. And everybody got mad at me because I said Spike Lee said it. I was like, hey, guys, Spike Lee said civil war is coming. And they were like, Tim, stop talking about it. And I'm like, OK, I guess. Don't talk about Spike Lee. Don't talk about civil war. Yeah, don't talk about civil war is coming and they were like tim stop talking about it i'm like okay i guess don't talk about spike lee don't talk about civil war yeah don't talk about civil war but i think your

definition of civil war is interesting because it's not going to be like 18 no i've been saying that it's fourth and fifth generational warfare for a long time there you go it could it could it we could be in it with whether it be a cyber war exactly already information i think you said that last time you were on that we're kind of in it but we don't realize we're in an information war i mean info wars so listen this is the era and time that's called post westphalian I think you said that last time you were on that we're kind of in it, but we don't realize we're in an information war. I mean, info wars. So listen, this is the era in time that's called post Westphalian, right? The Treaty of Westphalia is what kicked off the era of nation states.

Now people's loyalties are not towards nation states, but to ideas, causes, and gangs. Corporations, which is an idea. A gang is a gang. Definitely a gang. And that's where people's allegiances are today, right? And so those are the tribes that are forming around causes, ideas, and gangs. And we're already all in the midst of it. Yep.

We'll see what we got this one. Brewmaster Monk says Joe Biden can't lead his son away from degeneracy. How is he supposed to lead the country? I disagree with that. I've known plenty of fine men who have had children who have had drug addiction problems. It is a health issue. It is a public health crisis. I don't judge a man by the way someone is stricken by disease and sort of this really sad state of affairs. Now, did Biden create an environment in which the guy didn't really have

to work and he got rich and he got flown around the country and used his influence and whatever? Absolutely. But I'm not going to crap on a guy because one of his kids has got a disease that could kill him. We got a super chat here from Gonzalo. Sorry, super chatter. Gonzalo Arado says, from Chile. Question is, have any of you seen a link between the riots happening in the US

and the riots happening in Chile? Here it begins October 18th, 19, very well planned. Not that I'm aware of. It got really bad in Santiago. I was in Chile until 2019. I left right before. You lived in Chile? I lived there for

two months in Santiago. We were looking at building a graphene factory to start making it down there because we knew a guy that wanted to invest. It ended in 2019 just really violent santiago protests kicked off but i never saw any correlation we have this uh this here super chat wait did i just miss it oh here we go one grilled cheese sandwich says i believe that someday we can achieve gene roddenberry's dream of a unified

earth it can happen someday in the far future it cannot be forced on us by those that think they are our betters. Maybe. But I'll tell you this. If you've got a group of people that are like, everyone should freely agree to join and have these rights and be free, do you think that will win? Or do you think the 1.4 billion people who are essentially slaves to a massive authoritarian regime who weld their doors shut, who's going to win? The first people. Why? Because information can't be stopped maybe maybe what happens is that happened today when you know the chinese are desperately trying to stop the social media in their country because if people realize what freedom is they're immediately going to

revolt and turn against them however when it comes to major national natural disasters and war and everything, China just welds people's doors shut and just discards the individual and strengthens the collective. So they could respond to COVID like that. Tim, you're saying that this super global entity would reflect American

values. I'm not saying that. Someone's saying that. I know, but in our conversation earlier. Oh, if we had constitutional rights as we know them and American values, but it was the entire planet, that's the Star Trek future. I know, but bro, that's what we have here in America and it's not working now. Why would it work around the world? I'm not saying it is. I think it is working, but this is just a natural part of the evolution of it functioning.

Maybe we need a Starship Troopers kind of thing, you know? Service guarantees citizenship. We talk about that quite a bit. Very contentious, apparently. You're familiar with it, right? I am familiar, but I'm not an expert on this matter. Basically, it was just like anybody could demand something to do for the society. It wasn't necessarily military or whatever.

We've talked about it quite a bit because a lot of people are big fans of Starship. But it was the idea that in order to vote, among other things, you had to prove you are willing to sacrifice for the for the greater community you can't just come in and say i'm going to vote for something ridiculous and then hurt everybody or something you know got it kind of like what we have now here where you can just vote for something ridiculous well you can vote to take away civil uh civil rights and uh and affirmative action in california you can you can vote to make

it so people who don't live here can vote. Right. Like, no joke. There are cities where they've enacted laws where non-citizens are allowed to vote. I like the idea of service, but we'd have to extrapolate service,

like learning how to make graphene, using lasers, making YouTube videos, exposing your deep secrets. Like, that's a form of service to humanity. Maybe. Here we go.

Beam me up. Fred Crane says, Ian is a scary person. No, I want to be independent, not part of the zombie hive mind. Do you think the Federation of Star Trek is a zombie hive mind? No, the Federation is like a liberalist. Oh, the Neuralink. Neuralink is scary, man. I'm with you there.

Yeah, I don't want any of that. I just see it as like an unstoppable reality. So that's why I'm kind of coming to terms with it. the board baby humor benjamin rhodes says end the war on drugs legalize to criminalize instantaneously defund criminal organizations it has put money in the pockets of criminals willing to do violent things has there been any more destructive action in modern usa history it's pretty bad civil rights issue black racism issue crime mafia liberties personal choice it's anti-american the drug war dude nixon made it just to stop the civil rights movement to the the black panthers and the hippies in the 70s it's so ridiculous it's this corrupt guy president that

resigned basically put this into into effect but yeah we should repeal this stupid thing yeah trump needs to just come on do it i wish he would i wish he would in part of my research for democrats are deplorable uh i'd asked one of the questions was do you think that president trump should decriminalize marijuana and it was like 70 30 percent wow yeah here we go dave slattery says tim when will you do a sit down with Ben Shapiro? I was just thinking about that. Could you imagine? Because we both talk so fast.

People would be like, how do I slow this down? Like these guys are like, it would be like a five hour podcast in an hour. Yeah. People would listen to it at 1.25 speed too. And it would just be like evolution. It's like sitting in a chair and seeing like space zoom

it's so many so many ideas in the marketplace is expanding my mind too quickly it's blowing it would be like in uh kingdom of the crystal kingdom of the crystal skull when the lady gets this the aliens and she's like i want to know everything and then she's like ah and then she explodes or whatever it's too much it's too much. When people listen to podcasts on extra speed, is it like in the old days when you split up the record and the pitch of the voice goes up? Or is it? A little bit, yeah. Oh, really?

The pitch does go up? Well, there's ways they can do it now with pitch correcting. So I don't know. Not always. So the words just come out more quickly. It'd be really funny. I don't like this one. I don't like this one.

I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one.

I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one.

I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one.

I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't like this one. I don't it, Tim. And then you could slow it down.

And it sounds like a bunch of really old, rugged men. Yes. We don't sound like that. Well, I certainly don't. We don't sound like that. You do. Yeah, Jack does. Yeah.

DC says to Jack and Tim, I'm just curious your stance on personal responsibility and accountability and the role it plays in our culture going forward well personal personal accountability is sort of the bedrock essence of the values that i hold important and we need to have be as part of our culture and the nation that i live in so i think it's important and i wish people would have more of it too many people uh don't believe in personal responsibility no like you can you can be you can be a liberal and be left-leaning and agree with like social policy and things like this and like taxes and all that and still believe in personal responsibility you know yeah like the way the way i was always viewed welfare systems and food benefits was like we want to make sure we can get you to a point of self-sustainability we don't want you permanently just stuck here where you're

getting money from the taxpayer and we don't want to just kick you to the curb. So it's all about giving you the tools you need to become responsible for yourself, teaching people to fish, not just handing out fish. I remember when the welfare to work programs were like brought in, people said they were so racist. And now you just, as you asked this question, we talked about personal, personal accountability. I was just remembering being on the streets in D.C. during the riots, and I remember this one guy just kept yelling

into his megaphone over and over and over again, all black suffering is a result of systems of white oppression, okay? All black suffering. All of it. So maybe there is some suffering there that's caused by bad things. But if your perspective is that there's no personal accountability, then there's really

no reason to do anything with your life whatsoever. You know what? Hold on. I think we did this before. Can we get a show of hands of how many people want to vote to take all of Jack's money right now? And give it to whom? We'll split it amongst ourselves.

Ian says yes. It's money right now. And give it to whom? We'll split it amongst ourselves. Ian says yes. It's three to one. Give us your wallet. Hand it over. Oh, man. This is what people... I think there are important things you can do for kids

to teach them about government taxes. And that's one of them. If you've got a couple kids, play this game. Or even just one or two and you can bring in your wife or your friends or whatever. And then give them something they like like maybe they got that new you know what's that new pokemon game that just came out i don't i don't know i

haven't played pokemon in 20 30 years of course you don't have an idea yeah no no no is it is it uh i don't know i don't know the name pokemon go that's what came out on the switch and it's like uh i don't know the name of it but let's say this kid finally got they got their switch it's like you you bring the kid in and say we're all gonna vote on who gets to play the game now all in favor of taking the game away from you know your kid they're gonna be like what it's mine like well we voted so that's that's it's not fair that only you could have you got to share the wealth because we don't have a switch and i read this really funny post that said what you do is you tell your kid you'll give them 10 bucks to mow the lawn or whatever and then after they do you pull out 10 singles and go okay let's see so here's your pay and then i'll take one for medicaid one for you know one for this and your total net pay comes

out to you know six dollars and 73 cents and they're gonna be like but you said i get ten dollars yeah before taxes right taking the rest yeah i. I use Halloween candy as a way to do that. Yeah. So for Halloween, not only do I do the dad tax, but then I sort them by colors just to give them a lesson on intersectionality. I love it. All the yellow ones over here, all the red ones over here, and do not mix them. Understand? But you know what you need to do? This Halloween, you should get a really, really, like a friend of yours who's really big and

fat and have him just sit in a chair, just like really then be like well doesn't he get candy and they're gonna be like but he didn't go out and trick-or-treat but well he's too he it hurts his knees so we're gonna take you know a quarter of your candy a quarter of your candy and a quarter of yours and we're gonna give it to him and just have him just sit there just looking and looking him in the eyes and eating it good lesson i had a friend growing up when I was really little, and his mom made us play with his younger brother. And we hated his younger brother for it. Just didn't. Yeah.

That was another. Social communism. Yeah, man. It's not fair. Let's see. Isaac Hillstrom says, can I plug achat channel on a maxed out super chat it's completely irrelevant what's the max on a super chat for sure i guess i don't know trip ives says here you go search youtube for breaking whistleblower drops hard evidence

biden obama hillary executed seal team six audio proof come on i think stories like this okay so this is actually i was waiting this, a chance to say this. So remember we were talking about Robert O'Neill, the seal team six guy who's on Twitter causing trouble on planes who got kicked off. So apparently he is in, in on this or he's talking about this. He goes,

very brave men said goodbye to their kids to kill Osama bin Laden. We were given the order by president Obama. It was not a body double that, that they killed. Thank you, Mr. President. Happy birthday at us Navy. He goes on to say, I know who I killed homie every time. order by president obama it was not a body double that that they killed thank you mr president happy

birthday at u.s navy he goes on to say i know who i killed homie every time and then he later joked you said he was in on it so he's talking about it so you're saying he's rejecting it yeah he is rejecting i thought you were saying that he was saying it's happening yeah he's on it he's on top yeah he's speaking about it so we were talking about him earlier oh so he's denying about it directly he's 100 saying shoot i just found out that I killed Osama bin Johnson. Drinks are on me, I guess. And added, I know who I killed, homie, every time. So this has happened before.

And he's like, no, this is not what happened. Let's see. Red Dragon says, white pill for Lydia. That Dem in Weld County is only able to hold a position in the county party because there are basically no dems in weld that is really interesting yeah and he's their voice huh he is who they who is speaking out in weld county in this farming county that's crazy i don't i still don't like that at all i i wonder if james even recognized that i don't know veritas realized that like it's kind of crazy that the small town bumpkinville

of all the democrats they got they got a fringe crazy violent leftist yeah that's weird i don't know. I just realized that, like, it's kind of crazy that the small town Bumpkinville of all the Democrats they got, they got a fringe, crazy, violent leftist. Yeah, that's weird. I don't know. Maybe he was the only one who had passion. Let's not be redundant now. Polaris. Yeah. Polaris Pixis says, I tend to think of the right along the lines of the clans of Scotland.

We can't ever seem to unite. We need to come together and get organized. Also, Crypt Keeper Pelosi needs to retire. Can't stand her. By the way, we won the election 2016. Yeah. There you go. Did you see Nancy Pelosi flipping out at Wolf Blitzer? I did. That was hilarious.

I just skipped through it. Wolf is like, your colleagues are calling for you to approve the stimulus because children are going hungry. And she's like, well, you don't know what you're talking about. You've been elected to represent these people you don't know. And she was smiling. You've been elected to represent these people. You don't know. And she was smiling. Oh, my gosh.

It is Halloween time. My goodness. That proved to me, or I should say in my opinion, seeing that is evidence that she hates Trump more than she cares about anybody else. Yep. She just wants, she would make every American suffer crying in the streets because she hates Trump. That is lunacy. You know, regarding the clans of Scotland not being able to unify and the right not being able to. It's kind of like sometimes there's this argument about good versus evil.

And evil seems to have the upper hand in the fight because evil is a threat. They'll force everything to come together to make their evil empire. Whereas the good people are individualists. They don't force each other to do these things. So it's more challenging for them to find a reason to unify, if not against. It's the same reason why you always get a bunch of psychos as president. I think the easiest way to put it is...

Who else would be president but a psycho? Seriously. The modern left has no empathy. They claim to be the arbiters of it and the ones bringing it to all the poor people who just want health care, but the reality is they don't know. They don't understand how you feel. They don't care how you feel.

Shut your mouth. I'm right. I know what's best for you. And then you ask them a simple question about anything outside of their worldview, and they're going to be like, huh? Dude, you see those videos where they're like, stop graffitiing my house. They're like, I'm doing this for you. And they're like, yep, yep my house. Like, I'm doing this for you. And they're like, yeah, yeah.

White ladies. Yeah, exactly. You could take any jargon from any subculture and be like, oh, OK, if you're going to help me, then here's my job. Here's what I do. And they're like, I don't know what that is. Shut up. Right. Like, all I know is we should we should have the government pay for health care.

And it's like the government doesn't just pay. I was actually talking to somebody about universal health care. And I said, like, the big the big challenge is look first of all i'd love a functioning universal health care system like if we could implement it if we could the problem is for one twenty percent of our economy is built upon the infrastructure of health care you can't just flick a switch even bernie sanders that's like two to four million jobs or something would be gone overnight if we did this so let's let's figure out a way to get to you know improving our health care system for sure but i was actually told by one of these

lefties deficit spending that's it the government just prints the money whenever they need to pay and i'm like why didn't you know what venezuela do you know what that is have you heard that word before no no like there's a bunch of countries that tried this modern monetary theory mmt it's like this new thing i've been hearing about i'm trained in economics is a wild thing where you can just print as much money as you want run as many deficits as you want and it works hey and it works hey that's what they say they say they say let's try it and then you know what you do to limit the money supply tax people yeah uh or you just make sure the rich people get it that works that's the funniest thing i hear all these people say like how is it that there are billionaires and

people are starving they're hoarding all this money and i was like you can't eat money dude taking their money away won't bring food to an individual and not only that we don't really have a big starvation problem in this country we have a caloric a national caloric surplus yeah we have fat homeless people yes yeah that's not the problem no we have fat homeless people with cell phones still not the problem although if you eat a lot of crap you're still hungry that not the problem. Although, if you eat a lot of crap, you're still hungry. That's the problem. They're like, they're going hungry. It's like, yeah, because you ate fat.

It's too expensive to eat healthy. I'm like, dude, you know how cheap fruits and vegetables are? I just made like a $3 stew downstairs. It's a giant pot of sweet potato. It's crazy. I remember when I was like flat broke, I couldn't eat at restaurants and get burgers. I was like, oh, man, I got to buy vegetables and fruits again oh man because it was cheaper then you go to you go to you know the fast food restaurant and you want that that big burger meal and i'm like for that

much money i can get a bunch of tomatoes oranges some some wraps even some sauce to put on it know how to make it we have a caloric surplus there no, it's not a hunger issue in America. And anyway, it's a distribution issue. And then the other thing they bring up is like housing. They're like, how come we have all these empty buildings and we can't just put people in them? And I'm like, dude, do you know what it takes to like maintain a property? Could you imagine like if we took a bunch of homeless people who didn't have jobs and just put them in houses? Like what would happen to those houses and those people?

They'd get hurt. The buildings would end up just crumbling fires maybe like what people don't realize about homelessness because i actually worked for a for a network of homeless shelters is that it's typically a mental illness problem definitely it's it's not an economic thing it's that people can't they can't function you know and i mean with all due respect because we we try desperately to help some of these people and you bring them to a shelter you give them what they need to make sure they're clean healthy safe and there's no job for them no there's like so what do you do you know it's a serious problem you can't just put them in a house and walk away maybe like group housing you know but that's

literally what we did we had a homeless shelter so we're like we're actively trying to solve that problem people think you can just take a person put them in a house and problem solved that's sweeping under the rug as far as i'm concerned. You know, the metaphor of people being like cells in the human body and like we're all kind of like a hive of intercommunicating things is like some cells are programmed to kill themselves. They're called apoptosis. Apoptosis, yeah. Apoptosis is a natural phenomenon of reality where certain cells are like, I'm no longer needed. I will destroy myself. And I wonder if humans do that too.

Some people are just like just built to just be destroyed like they're just no longer serving society so they go into this self-deprecating spiral well at the very at the very least you're never going to bat a thousand so like even if you're doing very well there's going to be you ever hear about blue zones blue zones blue zones tell me about blue zones blue zone i watched a documentary about Blue Zones. They're areas of the world where people live over 100 years. So it's like they called them this. And they tried to figure out what they shared in common.

One of the most important things was purpose. Yes. They said in the documentary. So fact check this stuff. Because I was watching this documentary on Amazon or something. And it said that the highest, like the most likely age of death is just after retirement. People retire. They die.

They have no purpose anymore. They go to this blue zone and they see this guy. He's like 97. He's chopping lumber. Doing stuff. And they asked him, like, why are you, a 97-year-old, cutting wood? Shouldn't someone else do it? And he goes, who would do it?

And they're like, well, certainly someone younger. He's like, no, I have to do it. I'm the one who cut. I have to wake up and make sure we have the the you know the lumber to people need me like oh wow yeah yeah he couldn't he couldn't stop he's like people need me to to live purpose and meaning are two of the most power or purpose and community are two of the most powerful forces in the world today people who are a part of a community are clinically proven happier healthier and wealthier so if you can help if you can have purpose and you can have community,

what I've seen studies when it comes to addiction, they take a rat, they put him in a cage by himself, they give him unlimited cocaine, he takes the cocaine until he dies. You put a rat in a community of rats, you put the same amount of unlimited cocaine, guess what, none of the rats die. Because they have community. Interesting.

They have people. And that is why in Alcoholics Anonymous, one of the fundamental components of the whole thing they have community. Interesting. They have people. And that is why in Alcoholics Anonymous, one of the fundamental components of the whole thing is building community because community gives you a reason to live. So we got the super chat from Liam Baker. He says, we need some representation in fiction. Almost everything is left leaning.

So I sent you guys my novel. It's called stay tuned. I hope Jack checks it out. Lydia will dig it. It will make Tim say nightmarish dystopia and reality is fractured. Oh, wait, is this the guy that sent me the tweet I think I saw it stay tuned all right I'll check it out then

guy if that is you good job dude you broke through the din you were able to get our attention there you go boom well ladies and gentlemen we've gone as per usual a little bit over but just enough to make up for that super chat section so thank you all so much for hanging out Jack yes correct me if I'm wrong.

I heard you got a book. I have a book. It's called, and no one's ever heard of it. It's brand new. It just came out today. No, no,

no, no. Democrats is deplorable. Why 9 million Obama voters ditched Democrats and embraced Donald Trump tells the story of 2016 and the story of 2020. Get it on Amazon. Check me out. Check me out.

Jack Murphy live.com on Twitter at Jack, Jack Murphy live. And by the way, wephylive.com on Twitter at Jack Murphy Live and by the way we're on YouTube check me out Jack Murphy Live got a show tomorrow 11 a.m.

thank you appreciate that and smash the like button yes of course you can follow me on Twitter oh yeah you can follow me

on Twitter Instagram parlor at Timcast you can check out my YouTube channels youtube.com slash Timcast and slash Timcast News

because I got way too many channels and we do the show Monday through Friday live at 8 p.m. So definitely come back, hang out tomorrow. I think we might have to move tomorrow because we've got competing town halls. Like, what are we supposed to do?

We got Trump and Biden at the same time on two different networks. Yikes. I think we should just do the show. I think so, too. We'll probably do better than Biden. We'll see.

Yeah. I mean, it's going to be tough. It's going to be... We've got to think about it. I think the ratings for this might be bigger than a debate because you've got two different channels. Maybe so.

Maybe less because who wants to listen to what Biden has to say? Seriously. Not me. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of Biden and Trump, November 3rd election, we're going to do a nice show that night, right? Election night.

Oh, we're going to do. So we're going to do something special for election night where we're basically going to like turn the cameras wide shots for the room and we're going to have like a table set up with snacks. And we're just going to have a bunch of people saying a bunch of silly things. Watch the news roll in. It's going to be fun. And it's going to be hilarious all night long. I'll be here.

And when, you know, look, the results aren't coming out election night. We got to call it. But there's people like I'm hearing it from the left and the right. Biden's going to landslide so hard on election night. It's over. And people, Trump, people are saying Trump's going to landslide so hard. Yeah, but you're wrong because Biden's up by like 16 points. And it's like, no, that's not true because Trump's got secret voters.

And I'm like, go vote. Go vote early. Go vote in person. What do they say in Chicago? Go early, vote often. There you go. Did you hear about the people who were microwaving their ballots? I had not heard about that.

To disinfect them. And they were also wiping them down with like Purell and smearing them and just destroying them? Anyway, thanks for hanging out. Don't forget you can follow Captain Crossland over here. Thank you, number one. Ian Crossland. You can follow me anywhere and everywhere on the internet at Ian Crossland. Engage.

Engage. Yes. Engage. And of course, you can follow Sour Patch Lids. That's correct. LYDS. I'm chilling in the corner. Sour Patch LYDS.

Correct. Otherwise, no one would know what it was. So anyway, yes, smash that like button on your way out. Thanks so much for hanging out. We're going to be back probably tomorrow, but we'll see because I take the debate seriously. You know, I want to watch and we can't do both at the same time. It creates like a weird podcast, but we'll see what happens. We'll figure it out.

So anyway, thanks for hanging out and we will see you all in the next show and i'll i'll definitely post if something changes so we'll see how it plays out all right bye guys adios thank you Thank you.