Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #166 - YouTube DELETED Our Alex Jones Episode, Kalen From Scriberr And Richie McGinniss Guest

Episode Date: November 14, 2020

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host Kalen from SCRIBERR (@FromKalen on Twitter) and Richie McGinniss (@RichieMcGinniss on Twitter) sit down to discuss the craziness around the recent episode that was taken off Y...ouTube, the recent riots and what they mean for the future, and the state of the nation.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, everyone. Welcome to the TimCast IRL podcast brought to you by satellite because our internet went out. It happens, but the good news is a bunch of dudes show up and start digging holes all over the ground because they were putting cables in the ground because we are very close to getting gigabit internet. And when we do, we're going to stream in like 8K for no reason, just because we can. I don't know if my computer can handle that. But in other news, YouTube deleted the podcast last night with Alex Jones and Michael Malice for a community guidelines violation because of things Alex Jones said. It was one thing, but I think it came up in a couple different instances. And so it's gone. And all the clips and we are – I'm currently talking with Google to figure out what we need to do to make it good to appear on YouTube. And they're going to get back to me when they get back to me because they deleted it.
Starting point is 00:00:53 And we got lucky we didn't get a guideline strike. I say lucky, but it's kind of ridiculous. You know, when it comes to Alex Jones, they are just sitting there waiting with their finger over the button. And then he makes, he says one thing and boom they nuke this they nuke the show so that was uh you know we had i think a total of live viewership was over a million was like 1.3 million and then um actual views on the podcast itself from people who watched it was it was over a million as well so it was a really i think it was our biggest show most concurrence most views but uh you know it's alex jones so they got rid of it so. So we got a bunch of stuff to talk about,
Starting point is 00:01:25 and we'll talk a bit about censorship and all that stuff. And hopefully, I mean, it's actually really cool. So we have backup internet that's satellite, and it's not very good, but it appears to be working fairly well. And at a certain point, we're going to try and test our hardline internet again and see if it works.
Starting point is 00:01:40 And if we do, then we'll switch back. But whatever, man, you know what? We're chilling. That's about it. Because yesterday was crazy. I i was up way late people were yelling at me oh my word and then they got deleted and you know but anyway i'm hanging out with some people but you guys can introduce yourselves you go you introduce yourself i'm up first i'm richie mcginnis at richie mcginnis on twitter r-i-c-h-i-e-m-C-G-I-N-N-I-S-S. And I'm the chief video director at The Daily Caller. So you film riots?
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yes, we've been filming a lot of riots recently, given that it's been a blind spot in the corporate media's coverage. So we've done a lot of that recently. I don't necessarily enjoy it, but what are you going to do? Yeah. Job's a job. Good to meet you. Oh, hey, how you doing, buddy? I'm great.
Starting point is 00:02:26 But for those of you who don't know me, my name is Kalen Dalmeda. I'm a co-founder of Scriber News, Scriber Media at large. But what I do also is very similar to what Richie does. I've been covering riots. And like Richie said, they've been blind in the media. And you can follow me at Twitter or on Twitter, F-R-O-M-K-A-L-E-N. Or you can follow Scriber News, S-C-R-I-B-E-R-R News on Instagram. All the places you would normally be on social media.
Starting point is 00:02:56 You can put the plasma ball back. I'm Alex Jones. I want to tell you. All right, I'm putting the plasma ball back. I like your Alex Jones Ian it's nice so we yeah Ian's got
Starting point is 00:03:12 yeah we unplugged a bunch of stuff we're trying to get the internet to work long story short Ian's got a plasma ball he's going to plug it in but you know we're chilling censorship is a big deal and very obviously it's kind of crazy that last night you know what what i think is i'm just gonna say this let me slow down alex jones is such a high target because everybody
Starting point is 00:03:32 for some reason wanting they want to know what he thinks about stuff and when i say for some reason i'm not saying i'm confused but i'm saying it's like for the things he's done for the things he said for the for the show he's built over these, you know, almost three decades now. He gets all of the scrutiny in the world for being as high profile as he is. So there's tons of people who get banned for no reason, people who are not high profile. But there are a lot of mid-sized people, especially other people on the left, who don't get banned at all and say crazy things. So I'd be willing to bet if I brought in a leftist who said similar things to alex jones
Starting point is 00:04:08 nobody would care absolutely not but you know what you know probably was it probably wasn't just about what he said it was about we probably had a bunch of activists sitting there waiting and and pressing flag and report and whatever and and now the video's gone it's gone but it is on bit shoot so if you guys know what bit shoot is if you go to the timcast irl channel and bitch it still exists because we have contingencies upon contingencies it's gone but it is on bit shoot so if you guys know what bit shoot is if you go to the timcast irl channel and bit you it still exists because we have contingencies upon contingencies it's just we'll see if we can get it back on youtube not that i think it matters i think everyone will just watch it on bit shoot but i gotta say too that show was so freaking fun it was so fun i got to watch it halfway through i was like i don't even need to say anything man i
Starting point is 00:04:39 just just enjoy watch you guys go to town it was and Alex. Oh my God. What genius is like next level? Seriously, super fun. Wow, this is awesome. Well, there it is. How about, well, so that's it. I wanted to address that because I think it was a few hours ago we got the notification. Yeah, it was not long ago. It was like, you have violated the community guidelines. This is a warning.
Starting point is 00:05:01 And so the issue is I've had a bunch of people be like, yo, take out these portions, put them right back up. And I'm like, if we don't know exactly where they're coming at us for this podcast, and I have a general idea, if we get a hard strike, we can't do the show at all for two weeks. So it's like, do we just take, I'll take a two week vacation, you know? Or do we say, okay, I reached out to Google. I said, let me vacation, you know, or do we say, okay, I reached out to Google. I said, let me know exactly what we need to do and what in this, because I was already
Starting point is 00:05:30 told this, this is important news. I was already told by Google, you are allowed to interview Alex Jones and have him on your show and talk about whatever. He's just not allowed to do his own show. So then I said, after they took it down tell me what in this we we need to snip because apparently it's like tiny passive comments that weren't even part of the larger conversation you just said some some stupid things or whatever and they're like aha we got you so now it's gone i was thinking we should upload the full show onto mines because i know you'd said that
Starting point is 00:05:59 it's on bit shoot or it's already on bit shoot but we should just proliferate the thing you had said like they can bust you for doing something off platform, right? Violates the terms of platform behavior. When it comes to like Sargon, who actually got busted for that, um, the guy that interviewed him didn't get busted.
Starting point is 00:06:13 So if Alex did something off platform, it wouldn't affect us. That's the BS thing. Like they, they, they, they gave us, they gave me a warning because of something he said,
Starting point is 00:06:23 but they told me I could interview him. Now I'm responsible for what a person being interviewed says. Or it was a long-form conversation discussion. What am I supposed to do? Just tell me I can't interview people. You know what I mean? That's – I understand, like, you know, if we were live and they were like, yo, he said this thing. Because when you're live, you can take something out, I guess.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I wish they would strike the clip, like give you a little timestamp and then unlist the video and send you a message. Or just snip 10 seconds. Yeah, that's what they do with copyright. Like if you make a copyright infringement on YouTube, it'll tell you the specific portion of the clip. That would be helpful, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:01 We had a three hour and like 45 minute podcast and they were like, at this one point, you're gone. Whole thing's gone. So I was like, is that it? Because I'll take that out and put it right back up. And they were like, we'll get back to you. And I'm like, uh-huh. Because there may have been some other things, whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I don't know. But I knew, I said it was going to happen. How many times did I say in that show, we're getting banned? That's it. We're banned now. Three plus. Three plus. I'm like, oh, we are so banned. So if you get banned,
Starting point is 00:07:26 where are you going? Sleep. You're going to sleep. Dirt nap. Yeah, that's right. No, like, legit. You guys can't see it, but there's a massive seven-foot beanbag, right? Just chilling. Oh, it's so nice. It is nice. Can I turn the camera and show? If you want. Yeah, let's try it. The giant
Starting point is 00:07:41 beanbag just sitting there. Okay. And so what I'm saying is, I would just lay down in the bean bag. But you sleep. Yeah. Can you? Yeah. Should we run over there and lay on it?
Starting point is 00:07:52 I'll show the whole room so everyone gets an idea of what we're looking at. Oh, yeah. Hey, look at that. This is a nice big room. Kalen, you want to jump on there? Yeah, let's go. Come on. Yeah, cool, cool.
Starting point is 00:07:59 That's cool. All right, here we go. Yeah, buddy. Here's Kalen. Yeah, buddy. Don't be shy now. Oh, snap. Woo!
Starting point is 00:08:03 Nice, nice. This was part of the plan of what we're gonna do for election night but yeah it's not that way you know but we did add the new the new desk and so ian can chill and then uh you know i love it that's very yeah but but uh but we do have some serious stuff to talk about so hey there you go that's censorship i'll just i'll just add real quick because we'll probably come back to censorship stuff. Twitter said they labeled 300,000 posts. That's the craziest thing. Have you guys seen this new meme that's coming out of this, the flagging they're doing?
Starting point is 00:08:35 It's like the Babylon Bee did an article, and it's Harry Potter's Twitter account. And he says, he's back. Voldemort is back. And then under it, it says, this claim about Voldemort has been disputed. Click here to see why Hogwarts is very safe and secure. Yes. There's a bunch of stuff like that. I saw the Paul Revere one.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Yeah. Yeah. The British are coming. This is disputed. Click here to see why the British taxes are a good thing. Oh, no. I saw that Titanic one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Iceberg. Iceberg. That one's... The Titanic is totally safe. The Titanic's icebergs are totally safe. There's a bunch of them. It's great. Could you imagine?
Starting point is 00:09:04 It's insane. So anyway, that brings me to, I guess, the bigger conversation. But for the most part, we are having a post-Alex Jones episode chill-out session. I had a bunch of people hit me up, and they're like, you did a good job, man. I could see the look in your face. And I was like, uh-huh. It was like a circus ringmaster where all the animals got free. Yeah, it sure was.
Starting point is 00:09:26 It was exactly like that. I'm like, ah! But I don't know. Okay, because I don't know. But you actually talked to YouTube and said, can I have this guest on? Even though every big tech company hates this guy. I didn't say it like that when I talked to him. But I did reach out to Google and said, are there any considerations for me when I interview Alex Jones?
Starting point is 00:09:43 Basically, I was kind Jones like basically I was kind of like I'm gonna interview this guy what's the deal and they said there's no issues at all none whatsoever Alex Jones can appear on anyone's channel he just can't have a channel of his own and I was like fantastic all right good because if they had said something like we're concerned that he might say something like this I could have have been like, yo, make sure you don't. I'm not referring to news items. I'm referring to behavioral things like calls to action of sorts, which is essentially what got us flagged. He had said something that he wanted to happen.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And I don't want to repeat it because they'll come after this show, too, because they're on edge. But he said he wanted to see something happen to somebody, to put it mildly. And they were like, we got you. So it was a little bit like what Steve Bannon said. I don't know if you saw Steve Bannon. He got totally banned for what he said about Fauci, I think it was. Yeah, something about Fauci's head. Did he actually get banned?
Starting point is 00:10:35 I know he pulled the stream. His whole channel got perma-banned for that? On Twitter and YouTube, he's gone. Oh my gosh. I think it was YouTube too. I didn't know he existed on anywhere until my so fauci until just recently did you guys hear what fauci just said yes yes he said totally said totally insane the u.s has an independent spirit yeah but it's time to do
Starting point is 00:10:56 what you're told oh not okay that's it i'm doing the opposite is america it's like a bad parent i mean do what you're told why because i said so i can't believe oh okay yeah i don't think so yeah not about that what do i get in return absolutely nothing yeah exactly survive in regards to alex getting banned just his person getting banned i don't like it because i feel like if a criminal posts is a criminal and they're off social media and they decide to post something legal, that's like a step towards redemption. Right. It should be, but it's not.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Look at this. What are we looking at? Oh, what are we looking at? Oh, snap. Dr. Fauci tells Americans, do what you were told. Oh, you don't tell Americans that. We have a constitution for a reason. You know, I love how hard the constitution makes it for these despots to gain power.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Wonderful document, I tell you what. Yeah. Anyway, you were saying about Alex Jones being banned. I, I've tried when I was at, when I'm working at mines, I tend towards like,
Starting point is 00:11:51 okay, if we, if we ban an account because they violated the terms of service, I'm not going to prevent the account owner from making a new account that doesn't violate and make a new account. And if the new account doesn't violate, that's good. That's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I think that, I think that's like a good standard actually, because if you, if you're someone like you know alex jones and you have three million or whatever subscribers and you break the rules and they say that's strike one you break the rules again strike two you break the rules for a third time they delete you you gotta start from scratch and they say hey start over congratulations your account violated the rules you as a person can keep going and then you know you'll start up a brand new account you've wrecked the rules again then they delete that account too and then they're getting rid of the problem but they're letting people you know that's what they used to do in 2008 for instance warren 25 this is great youtuber look him up see if you can find any of his old stuff
Starting point is 00:12:36 he would rail against george bush and scream and profane and eventually just went over the edge they banned warren 25 account so he he made Warren 25 smash and went crazy. And he was yelling and screaming. And I think eventually they banned that. But they never banned Philip from making accounts. It's a weird new... Now it's a life sentence. If anything, his banning probably helped his account.
Starting point is 00:12:57 When he came out with the new one, there's that many more people who were paying attention to him because he got banned. Usually you lose a decent amount of people. It's kind of like... Is that the way we're going though are we going like this weird dystopian black mirror thing where you have merits and you lose them and you and you cease to exist and you can't you can't do anything that's it's gonna be here's here's how i imagine the future right in like two years everyone's gonna be wearing this like weird like's going to be a green and white kind of jumpsuit. You know that, what kind of material
Starting point is 00:13:28 is it? It's going to be like a nice, it's like what mouse pads are made of. A graphene. A neoprene. Yeah, exactly. They're going to have anti-grav packs on their backs and they're going to have white helmets with green visors and they're going to be floating around and they're going to have telekinesis.
Starting point is 00:13:43 In two years. And then you are going to be banned from the network and so you're going to be a regular guy and you're gonna be wearing like a a brown duster covered in holes in dirt and you're gonna be like looking up at the people flying around and you're gonna be like i used to be one of them and they're gonna be you know like eating awesome food and they're gonna be like well it's a private business you shouldn't have gotten banned you're gonna like try and go to the store but the door is like 50 feet up you know i'm kidding obviously you know what they could do i'm thinking severely dystopian but you could make clothing out of graphene and then make it like haptic feedback clothing start with it on prisoners so if they
Starting point is 00:14:19 get out of line you just shock shock them to hell or like knock them haptic feedback it's not yeah yeah like but no no i mean honestly think about where we're going right now in terms of all the censorship stuff because you don't you don't you don't own your iphone okay well you own the physical device but you don't own the software no you can't modify it you can't do anything to it it's against so you could get banned from ios and then all of a sudden one day your phone is bricked you want to know what the crazy thing is banks banks are oh of course of course You could get banned from iOS and then all of a sudden one day your phone is bricked. You want to know what the crazy thing is? Or banks.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Banks are banned. Oh, of course. PayPal. You want to know what the scariest thing is though? People use Facebook and Google to log into other services. Yeah. If you get banned from Facebook and you use it as your login, you're banned from every single account and there's no way in.
Starting point is 00:15:02 A lot of these companies don't have customer services you can call. If it's like Amazon or whatever, you'll find a way to get your account access or something. But if it's using like a different web service that's linked to Facebook
Starting point is 00:15:13 and use Facebook as your login, let's say you use an accounting service or whatever and you just like log in with Facebook, now you lose access to your accounting systems. You got to like try and figure out how to get in.
Starting point is 00:15:22 And they don't care. Are they going to figure out a way for these people who lose account access to continue living their lives or they're just gonna say well screw you didn't you just hear what i said people are gonna be flying around in their neoprene is it neoprene that's what i thought i thought i thought we were imagining the future i thought i thought that they this was a session for them to draw ideas from tim pool he's's the master. They're going to take – you're going to be standing there and you're going to take a potato sack and snip two arm holes on the sides and a neck hole. And you're going to be wearing an old potato sack.
Starting point is 00:15:52 And they're going to be flying around and laughing and giggling and, you know. You know what's interesting, though, is all of this that we're talking about right now, what's happening on these platforms, we met in Chaz, actually. Oh, yeah. That's right. At the beginning of the summer. about right now what's happening on these platforms it we met in chas actually oh yeah that's right beginning of the summer and what happened there and what happened with a lot of these protest zones it was like basically this kind of like utopian dream at the at the onset you know but then they're like okay well how do we control the information that's coming out of here how do we make sure that no bad people come in and so they get security teams and then they get people who make sure that the only good press is coming out of there.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And so actually, Kalen, I mean, you were actually assaulted as a byproduct of you filming something that was unsavory in the Chaz. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. Were you trying to undermine the revolution? The leader of the revolution. Is that what it was? Because when I, when I, it looked like, it looked like some, I, you know, I don't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Was it a revolution? I'm not really sure, but they, they ended up losing territory. You know what I mean? They lost it. But yeah, I was there. I was filming something that there wasn't even anything happening, but I was like preemptively filming. And who are you filming?
Starting point is 00:17:00 Raz Simone. Raz Simone's hanging out. For anybody who doesn't know. Raz Simone's hanging out. He was like the quote warlord. All this's going on nothing's really going on i was sitting there and i get cased but you were filming them yeah on a public street i was but it's not public because it's part of the chats yeah it was part of the chat i think i think we gotta we gotta stop here how you are falsely framing what actually happened you had entered into sovereign territory
Starting point is 00:17:24 oh that's right and The new land of Chad. Yes. And you violated their borders, bringing in hate speech. They had borders. And you tried to undermine their government. That was a national security threat. And so like any good protectorate, they made sure that the villains who illegal, I mean, you were an illegal immigrant, basically.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Oh, my God. How dare you? I guess so. And they had to stop you from spreading slander. Slander is nice. And yes, and undermining the revolution. How dare you? But they had legit borders. I mean, they had checkpoints that they were checking.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Everybody came in and it came to the point where once they realized who we were, they were basically radioing the Antifa security team. Hey, hey, hey. And we were getting followed out i want to say i did get attacked i did get attacked they sent a guy after me they were defending they were defending themselves they were from your hate speech which i i you know we won't i i don't care about who it was i know who it was but uh the crazier part was that afterward uh the guy that assaulted me was shot three times oh Oh! He was shot three times.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I think it was three times. Like two days later. I could be wrong. Yeah, a few days later, I go, but I remember afterward, I went back to the hotel and I thought,
Starting point is 00:18:31 if that guy keeps acting the way that he did, he's going to resurface. I'm going to find out who he is. Twitter went to town on him, found out who he was, matched up his, he posted a TikTok
Starting point is 00:18:40 from the hospital after he got shot. Was he like dancing on the TikTok? No, I mean, obviously, he was all, you know, I don't know, posted a tiktok from the hospital after he got shot and was he like dancing on the tiktok no i mean obviously obviously he's all he's all he was all you know i don't know what's that it's that what's the one uh where the guy's letting the chinese government you know the meme where the dude's on the longboard drinking the yes uh dreams yeah was was he playing that song while he's got
Starting point is 00:18:59 like you know blood and he's drinking the apple juice from the cup you know the little tinfoil cup you know oh yeah whatever it is hospitals yeah uh no but what was funny was that his friends or whoever they were afterward they came they they attacked my social media and they kept commenting that i conspired to have him shot afterward it's like dude i don't even know who you are i literally could care less who you are i'm i'm going to washington dc because i have important things to do it's also funny though because i don't think people out there necessarily realize like I literally could care less who you are. I'm going to Washington, D.C. because I have important things to do. It's also funny, though, because I don't think people out there necessarily realize how amateurish this security operation was in the Chaz. Shelby and I went to interview one of the guys at the checkpoint.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And number one, there was a lot of internal strife. Not everybody thought Raz was the, you know, they were like, who appointed him leader? him leader but this guy i'm not even kidding he had a needlepoint belt and from that belt was hanging a holster and in that holster was a 50 caliber desert eagle no there wasn't yes i swear i swear to god man okay i'll take your word for it and as he was talking and gesturing this thing was like swinging around and i was like yo like can was talking and gesturing, this thing was like swinging around. And I was like, yo, like, can I just... The reason why this isn't on camera is because they asked us to stop filming.
Starting point is 00:20:10 But I was like, yo, that's an interesting holster you had there. Can you tell me about it? And he's like, oh, this is a needlepoint belt. I thought it looked pretty cool. And yes, it's just holding my gun. My Desert Eagle? I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:20:21 What is happening? It's swinging around. Wouldn't it be crazy if we had like, what is it, a you swinging around hey would it be crazier if he had like what is it a smith and wesson 500 is that what it's called uh how big is that it's massive it's like yeah it's massive i was watching a video on youtube like a nice nice long it's like the joker's gun you know the joker had that revolver where he would like pull out of his belt but it was really long and then he was like yeah it was like three feet long the barrel i don't know if that made sense,
Starting point is 00:20:45 but it was a comic book, so I guess a long barrel, you know. There were all kinds of weapons in there, though. I mean, there were... Less recoil, I guess. People had rifles. People had everything. It was because it's open carry.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I mean... But the other thing was... So Katie Davis Court and this guy named Maximus walked into the Chaz with the American flag. And I don't know what their motives were with that,
Starting point is 00:21:09 but it caused, obviously, a large commotion. And they got chased out all the way back to their car. And one of these guys, security guys, in a Jeep with no license plate, drives up behind to their car, and he's taking down their license plates he got a radio and we it was george ventura drew hernandez and may ran up to his car what are you doing who do you work for what's going on why are you taking his license plate and he quickly pulls his mask up and he says well i'm with uh john brown gun club and well why why are you taking a group right yeah yeah uh and by the way we got that was
Starting point is 00:21:45 right after that we they left in their car and then shelby jorge and i who because we worked together we were all staying in the same hotel we started walking away and i noticed that there was somebody following us so i said okay we got up you know we're gonna double back down this alley we're gonna and we're about three quarters of the mile away from three quarters maybe maybe a mile from the border of the Chaz where our hotel was. And there's another guy that we recognize from in there. And we were like, holy shit. We took it. Holy shnikes.
Starting point is 00:22:12 We took a. Could you. Could you. Could you imagine how an American would feel? You're sitting on the beach in California when this boat pulls up and a bunch of dudes jump out with Chinese flags and they're running through your neighborhood. You'd be like, get out of here. What is this? So these people come in.
Starting point is 00:22:30 It's an adversarial nation through the borders without showing their passports, bringing the flag of a foreign government. And of course the citizens of Chaz were furious. I'm half Italian, so my ancestors probably arrived without papers anyway. You know what was interesting, though? When I got attacked, I ran out because the guy wouldn't let me go. He grabbed the back of my jacket, and he was striking me in the back of the head. Give me your phone, or I'm going to knock you out. I didn't give him my phone.
Starting point is 00:22:57 But there was a female who said, go to the medical tent. When I finally got free, she said, go to the medical tent. I ignored her advice, and I ran out. And I ran about a block, and they sent three people after me to try to take me back for interrogation they said you need to come back to the medical tent for interrogation this sounds really great i'm really looking forward to when these people have government control the question is though is that how is that the answer to this crazy technocracy that's coming? What?
Starting point is 00:23:27 This anarchist. To make your own country? To make your own country. Make your own country. And grow, you know, take over a city park and start growing crops. Bro, bro. The Lark Farm was not going to feed anybody. It was not growing anything. No way.
Starting point is 00:23:41 It was like, you know what's really funny? It's like, you ever see those videos where there's a video of an orangutan and it's got a hammer and a nail and it lays the nail down and starts just lightly tapping it? It understands a little bit, but not
Starting point is 00:24:00 enough to actually use the hammer and the nail. So when I was watching the Chaz people with their LARP farm, it was one one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Because they put cardboard down, put dirt on top, and then put a potted plant right on top of it. I'm like, that's what it's like. It's like the hammer and the nail. They've seen a video on Discovery Channel or something. And they're like, I saw someone do this.
Starting point is 00:24:20 But they don't get it. But the white claws tasted so good in the Chaz. The white claws? They really did. You could drink it I mean there's no loss so you drink the claws you can drink whatever you want
Starting point is 00:24:27 no loss to be fair and the doobies were not bad I was thinking about this when we were trying to set up audio for this show like I'm actually pretty good
Starting point is 00:24:36 with audio stuff because I've been playing music and working in various venues and stuff and we got this mixer and I plug everything in and I'm like everything is plugged in
Starting point is 00:24:44 and working the way it's supposed to but for some reason just doesn't work so i had to call a sound guy to come in and he was like and then he just moved a little things around i'm like that's crazy that they're they're you know you you have a general understanding you can see it you kind of know you can't do it and so you know it makes me realize the importance of specialties and why these utopian dreams are completely meaningless where they're like if we take over these six blocks and we have you know a thousand people all we need is this one park to feed them and it's like how much how many acre how many acres of land do you need you know to feed a thousand people it's like a lot right so so the problem with them is that they're not even fundamentally like competent they can't handle anything like they literally
Starting point is 00:25:24 can't handle like buying themselves groceries how exactly are they supposed to handle you know it reminds me of you ever play uh civilization yeah i was just thinking about and then you know how like sim city actually i never did age of empires in civilization roller coaster tycoon civilization two check it out like randomly there'll be like barbarians that just show up and will like attack your city and then when they take it it's like they just start taking your stuff and that's what it kind of feels like with the with the chas stuff they have no intention of producing they just want yes they just want they want they want some of these people just want to feel power so you know along with you talking about censorship some people just want to feel that power to be like i can bang you
Starting point is 00:26:00 or that's why they sit at their their desk you know hitting you know report over and over again and getting their friends to do it. They just want to feel that power. But some of these people just want stuff, you know. It's a – what is it? I saw a meme posted by Sargon and it said, just because you want stuff doesn't mean it's your right, you know. Well, I think that's an interesting point, too, because the one consistent thing that we've seen across all these protest zones around the country is really like a lack of purpose and cause. And I think it's a lot of 20 to 30-something-year-olds who just feel like they don't have anything else in life.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And that becomes their cause. And so like in Portland, why do these freaking guys come out and get shot with pepper balls and blasted with tear gas every night, night after night? It's a game, dude. It is. Listen, listen. When you know the cops can hurt you, but listen listen people go play paintball on purpose yes so when the cops are like we've got beanbags and pepper balls they're like i'm not gonna get hurt it's gonna be fun and they show off when they get hit they like go to their friends they're like look i got hit in the arm
Starting point is 00:26:59 i'll show it i got hit with a canister i have multiple of these people on camera talking to them and passing they're like look i got hit with a marker round andister. I have multiple of these people on camera talking to them and passing. They're like, look, I got hit with a marker round. And it didn't even hurt. And it comes off. It comes off real easy. They get arrested the next day. No big deal.
Starting point is 00:27:12 It's a game. To them, it's like playing football. People go to sex clubs and get beat by whips and chains, like masochists. It's a real thing in humanity. And some people go out and get shot with pepper balls by cops. Is that your Saturday night? I only heard about that from another person your that's your saturday night i heard about it from another person that's your saturday night you heard about it i just i just read about that in a book yeah i'm sure it's a friend it's my friend i'm asking for a friend yeah that's all yeah so these people are
Starting point is 00:27:37 masochists right like like uh like directionless or or their direction it's a sport it's a sport it is a sport even even the even the. Even the law enforcement there, they have a lightheartedness about this. It's really interesting because some of them, even the way that they'll treat me, I'm dressed just like these people are. But they're like, hey, why don't you get behind me? And then they run into a pole as they're bull rushing the crowd. And he turns around and he goes, oh, did you get that? And I was like, yeah, I guess. yeah i guess i mean but that's the attitude they just pepper spray me and they let you get all these cool shots i don't know i don't know i'm better than you you know what you know what you
Starting point is 00:28:14 know what this was the elites the the power of the politicians just wanted to make sure everybody knew what would happen if they took away sports that way they're like now you understand why we have baseball football basketball hockey because without it people replace their teams with ideological teams yeah tear gas volleyball yeah yeah yeah the fence then the protesters and don't they don't they bring tennis rackets and try and oh they have lacrosse sticks they have cross hockey sticks yeah leaf blowers uh what else i mean i'm sure well they bring baseball bats but that's for hitting there's some guys there's some guys dressed up in full hockey gear, actually. I did see those guys.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I did see those guys. It's like some kind of weird video game or movie. Where you have a bunch of different kinds of characters, like the hockey man, and he's running around with a hockey stick. The badminton guy. The U.S. military made America's Army, a video game that they let people download for free
Starting point is 00:29:02 that was basically army training. And they were trying to get kids indoctrinated to join the military so cool i think the games have made people want to gamify combat and street combat i grew up playing counter-strike that was my i loved that game and i still play it and so maybe it only taps into a certain type of person maybe so there's people who are into civilization there are people who are into fps there's a big difference between playing a game where like you're holding a controller and you press up on the left thumbstick and then press R1. Then he punches a guy and then you get a point. And actually running up to a guy and then swinging at him.
Starting point is 00:29:35 It's a little different. Exactly. People – there's – this is the big video game myth that video games made people crazy aggressive or murderous or whatever or made them want to do it it's just ridiculous the the the level if you get someone who's playing video games all day playing something like counter-strike or you know call of duty and then you actually put them into like live combat they're going to be like this is literally not the same thing in any capacity especially you've been in you've been in wartime scenario i've been in civil war i've not been in like well uh i've been in revolution i was in egypt during the revolution and there's gunfire yeah absolutely yeah yeah they had rear square yeah they had these things it was crazy they made
Starting point is 00:30:16 shotguns they they like i don't know how they did it but it was like they manufactured their own huge pipe shotguns and they would put birdshot in it and like you you know break barrel and then load it and then boom and one of the one of the camera guys for vice got shot with him twice whoa that was crazy he got shot twice and he lived there was no his birdshot okay so he it's all just in his back it's in there forever yeah but no it's not in there forever they said to pull it out i've had people who come in with, they have shrapnel in them and it never goes away. They can't get it out.
Starting point is 00:30:47 They can't take it out for whatever reason. They burn shot a little BBs. When I was in middle school, I got stabbed with a lead pencil and the lead never came out. Yeah, it never comes out. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Yeah, same idea. Same thing, I know. Lead pencil? Yeah. What's a lead pencil? Probably graphite. Yeah, there you go, graphite. Oh, graphite.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Not lead. That explains a lot. No lead. But it used to be be kids would just play with lead and put it in their mouth and how crazy well i think some of our parents too may have played with mercury it was like this cool thing but you know you know what i'll say about like being in conflict zones first i've not been in like syria where you had snipers and you're like you know you got to have like strict security protocols.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I've been in, you know, civil unrest moments and, uh, you know, factional clashes like in, in Thailand was scary. That was really scary because there's two different factions literally like they didn't want to kill each other, but they were killing each other. And so there was a moment where we were, we were, I was in Bangkok and someone like threw a grenade and then started started walking down the street. Two guys. He had a – what was it?
Starting point is 00:31:49 M16 or – I don't know. Something like that. Yeah. And he had a shopping bag over the front of it. But you could see the barrel coming out the front and you could see that he was holding a rifle. And then he had one guy as like a spotter like on his shoulder. And they were moving through the streets and like – it's factional violence. What I'll say is it's both more like shocking than
Starting point is 00:32:06 you realize and kind of less than you might think interesting so like it's it's not like in the movies where you have this loud bass and it's like it just you feel the presence of the of the action scene not like that at all but it's way more serious than people realize because it's just it's real silent yeah pop pop pop screaming you don't know where this you don't know where it's coming from you don't know what's going on you don't know who's doing what you don't which which direction you go so it's like i think the way the way to explain it is like how the action movies are when you're watching an action movie scene and there's war there's loud bass you know it's like and then you hear people running and you like it's very focused but
Starting point is 00:32:45 it's very like epic in terms of like the sounds you hear i'm in ferguson i hear murmuring from the crowd and then you hear several pops yeah everybody hits the floor and then the camera person that vice sent out is like it's just fireworks yeah fireworks good job vice i mean but that's a good that's a good point that you made is like comparing civil unrest in other countries to here i mean at least instances of this summer i don't recall any instance where police were using lethal weapons against the protesters um but obviously that doesn't mean that these situations can't turn for the worse and that people aren't dying in these areas. And obviously –
Starting point is 00:33:26 Well, they're LARPing. That's the thing. Until somebody dies. And then you're not LARPing because you're dead. It's interesting that the riots in June wasn't LARPing. That was just bedlam. That was people saying like we're going to destroy everything, take what we can and burn it all down i think you know the interesting thing about the june riots uh the george floyd riots was that it wasn't necessarily um political in in the sense where like you have
Starting point is 00:33:51 antifa as a very clear political faction now we're having that what is it the million maga march is taking place what is that tomorrow yeah like political it's targeted so i was when i was in berkeley there was a trump rally and a bunch of antifa showed up but a bunch of white nationalists showed up too and we're standing on the trump side and one of these guys yells at me which side are you on and i was like nobody's and then he's like and he just turned around and walked away so it's like if you go into a into a factional political fight for the funny thing is antifa probably wouldn't let you get away with that whose side are you on they've said nobody's they'd be like how dare you yeah they don't let you go it was
Starting point is 00:34:27 funny the white nationalist guy he had he had a skull balaclava and when i said nobody's he's walked away and then he no no he didn't walk away he just turned 10 feet and then just punched some antifa guy full force in the face it was crazy it was nuts. But at least like when you go into these situations, so I was in Turkey and these anarchist neighbor, they were fighting with cops, the Malatovs. When we wandered in, they walked up to us yelling at us in Turkish and the guy held the Malatov
Starting point is 00:34:56 cocktail up to my face and was screaming and I just put my hands up. I smiled and I turned and nodded. Started walking away. They'll just let you leave right that's the thing about political violence but if you're in one of these riot situations there's there's no control correct yeah you might just get decked flat nothing you can say nothing you do no way sucker punches have we filmed how many journalists have we filmed getting sucker
Starting point is 00:35:18 punched in these zones anybody it's anyone it doesn't matter if you're if you're uh the subject of anyone's attention a group of people someone could just come up and punch you, and they don't know why. They don't know why anyone was focused on you to begin with. You're just going to get knocked out. I got, well, I thought I got a street preacher getting squarely punched in the face. In Portland, right? Yeah, in Portland. Unfortunately, I looked at my phone, and I wasn't recording.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Frustrating moment. But yeah, somebody comes from a mile away and just says, hey, look, there's a guy. Boom. Well, that's also, you can have these protests and stuff like that and everything's yay, rah, rah. Here's my side. This is my cause. But the moment that somebody goes Lord of the Flies, things just fall apart.
Starting point is 00:36:00 And it's amazing. Explain that. I don't know that. Maybe there's a- So Lord of the Flies is a book where a bunch of kids end up on a deserted island together okay and i don't want to give away what happened oh come on poor piggy rip piggy um but basically you know you you have people who have a good idea good intentions who go into these areas but when the chaos happens i mean even people with the best intentions can turn on a dime.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And that's obviously what we saw in Kenosha. It wasn't just the individuals who were involved. The moment that those gunshots went off, I mean, you can hear the entire crowd. Everybody's hysterical. And in those kind of situations, that's when all reason goes out the window. You know what's really funny about that? When I was in Ferguson, a funny weird not funny okay okay what's what's what's what's weird about this is that when i was in ferguson or no maybe funny is the better word not like we want to take you to
Starting point is 00:36:54 revel in it but the people in ferguson didn't get hysterical when gunshots went off they they were they were used to it so the first time we heard gunshots go off they all hit the floor and then everybody waits and looks around slowly starts getting back up and moving to the sides. They didn't freak out. They didn't scream. They didn't run attacking people because they're used to it. That's so weird. They knew how to act because they had experiences before.
Starting point is 00:37:15 But in these ride situations, you have people who freak out. What's happening? I have no idea. You're yelling. I'm yelling. Loud noises. Just people go nuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And that, that's actually described pretty well how it was when I was in Santa Monica. So I think at the same time there was, uh, DC Lafayette square was like, that was when they tried to pull down the Jackson. Yeah. And I think at the same time there was Santa Monica and there was Fairfax that
Starting point is 00:37:43 same weekend, but that's how I was. I got there. And the first time I heard santa monica and there was fairfax that same weekend but that's how i was i got there and the first time i heard the loud you know shot from the beanbag guns and all that kind of stuff i you know i would literally jump uh by the time i got to kenosha and you can see the footage on my twitter i'm walking very calmly uh between flash bangs and like all this stuff my back is literally to these militarized police. Explosions are happening in front of me. And it's like, I got used to it pretty quick.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Militarized police. We've had a lot of conversations about that. And I think it's the wrong way to describe it. Yeah? Yeah, it's weird because it's like an activist talking point almost. They're using beanbags. and they're using pepper balls. It doesn't even hurt these people. It's not really militarizing.
Starting point is 00:38:30 They're referring to the armored personnel carriers. I can see that being the wrong... Sure, sure. Yeah. No, I just mean like, you know, because we talked about it. They're inaccurate. No, no, no. I think it's just it was a colloquial term people used because it looked like...
Starting point is 00:38:41 When I was in Anaheim,im like we had the local police wearing full like military style camo and they had rifles with live ammo and they were riding around on the sides of these suvs so i guess that made sense but now they keep saying militarized over and over again and it's like these cops are wearing plastic armor with pepper balls like you're gonna get hurt i guess but it's like they're less less dangerous than a regular beat cop you know what i mean it's interesting you say that too because after the shooting in kenosha like they didn't respond like the police were literally 200 yards away but well they didn't know what was going on well i know but i'm just saying in a normal a normal scenario with normal patrol cops they hear a bunch of shots and they run over and this is no no this is important point
Starting point is 00:39:24 because when when kyle rittenhouse put up his hands and walked past the police, all these leftists were like, oh, look, he just killed these people. And then he gets to walk away. And it's like it's because these police are actually less prepared for that kind of situation than a regular run of the mill beat cop walking down the street. So when you get a guy, a cop in his car and he pulls someone over, that cop's got a gun with bullets in it. And if he gets scared, he shoots somebody. We don't like that. We don't like when that happens. But when the riot cops come out, they have batons and they have less lethal weapons.
Starting point is 00:39:56 So if you're like, hey, this is an active shooting, they'll be like, we are not equipped to actually deal with that. So you'll need the regular cop in the squad car with their body armor and their you know their handgun to actually confront something like that they don't understand this militarized police they describe sure apcs and stuff like that but what we watch when we watch riot police these cops have more options but can do it's less lethal literally less lethal than a run-of-the-mill you know patrol cop do they have armored personnel carriers? They did. Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Do they have mounted machine guns on them? No. Not at all. Not at all. Not at all. They pop out and they shoot the tear gas. With the less lethal, though, I have to commend DHS because when I was in Portland at the Multnomah Justice Center, I was across on the grass. There's a statue and stuff. But I was trying to film and I had a little umbrella and I was hiding behind the umbrella.
Starting point is 00:40:44 And they started shooting through the umbrella, me in the chest and i ran across the lawn and they hit me every step you're telling me the umbrella didn't stop the i mind-blowing it's mind-blowing yeah you would think that a goodwill umbrella would stop something like that so the umbrella phalanx yeah they watched they watched if they watched videos of hong kong you know and and then- That's what it was. Yeah. That's what it was.
Starting point is 00:41:07 By the way, did you guys see the four Democratic Hong Kong lawmakers were dismissed? No. No, I didn't see that. It's gone. Hong Kong, we're losing Hong Kong. There's no Hong Kong anymore. It's just- You might want to look that up.
Starting point is 00:41:16 China. That's a crazy story. Yeah. Just go build a Chaz over there. Yeah. Well, you know, you know what's really interesting is that I think with this, you know, they're going to do the lockdown again. Fauci says, do what you're told. They're talking about, you know, you know, it's really interesting is that I think with this, you know, they're gonna do the lockdown again. Fauci says, do what you're told.
Starting point is 00:41:27 They're talking about, you know, Biden says dark winter. And yeah, but I have to wonder, I have to wonder, are the leftists who are anti-fascist going to come out and protest against the government that is locking down the country? Or are they going to be like, we're going to do as we're told? That's a good question. Like, what would happen in that? mean what happens to antifa could you imagine if like antifa is finally like stopped and shut down by the power of fauci it's like antifa's going crazy and he goes do what you're told and they're like okay we better go back inside guys you wonder though do they believe in do they do they believe it's as infectious clearly they don't i mean they're out but they all they always wear masks you know and they come
Starting point is 00:42:10 down on you if you don't they come down on you you're not wearing a mask and you're too close for me and you're you're a super spreader they do that kind of thing but everyone does that kind of thing to be noticed you see it on both sides you see it on both sides that antifa is super conditioned to follow instructions like they're young're young kids. They're about our age. And, like, all they've ever done is follow instructions. No, no. But they're going around fighting with cops and, like, burning things down and destroying things. Yeah, they'll follow instructions.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Go home at 8 p.m. They're literally doing the opposite of that. And they're getting arrested and going out. And there's, like, nothing stopping them. Even when they say, you're going to jail for this. They let them out. And they're like, I can do whatever I want. With the exception, Marquise Love. I don't know if you saw this video marquise love uh kicked anna hainer in the head
Starting point is 00:42:49 after i mean he was brutally assaulted pulled from his truck you were right xyz um did you film that yeah he got kicked in the head it was it was i saw it was very graphic he got less i think he got 20 months which is i mean of all the people that are that are being prosecuted that's the one that is making the headlines yeah so you know it's not it's they're not all getting away with the majority of it they might as all might as well all be getting away with it so if you kick somebody right in the head on camera and the entire nation sees it then you'll get 20 months 20 months that was that was a full force punt.
Starting point is 00:43:26 He was going for a field goal. Do you guys think that contact lens cameras will help journalism? Do those exist? They do. They're telescopic. But I heard about this in 2000.
Starting point is 00:43:39 The answer is no. They'll just be searching your eyes. The answer is no. We tried Google Glass. It didn they're no no the answer is no we tried google glass didn't work but that's because you could see the glasses i'm wondering if they're hidden and they don't know that you have a camera if you're going to be safer or if the cops will think you're part of the problem you can do we have hidden cameras now it did and people use them so use them i mean we already have we already have to hide the fact that we're press because it's one thing if you're like antifa sympathetic press
Starting point is 00:44:05 but people find out who we are they follow our twitters or whatever and they're antifa and they start just sending our photos around yeah and saying these people are here so we have to disguise ourselves as much as we possibly can which means dressing up like antifa which means getting blasted with pepper balls yes yeah but people always say that on like on twitter and stuff like oh well you deserve it and it's like yeah we accept the risk but also i'd rather be at the mercy of law enforcement than at the mercy of a sucker punch that's coming out of nowhere well so listen antifa are bad at what they do but we'll kill you yep right so we've had a few instances where we had the we had the one that one serious instance where one serious instance where Michael Reinhold, he killed that Trump supporter.
Starting point is 00:44:47 And that's because that's a dude who actually had a gun. Most of the time, Antifa are just like dumb young people, and they'll have a bat or something. They'll full force punt you in the head. They'll punch you. They'll beat you. They'll brutally beat you. They'll leave you with messed up teeth like they did to Andy Ngo. But they don't usually have the force for a full-on like lethal encounter but we
Starting point is 00:45:08 are starting to see stabbings so you know we saw some stabbing happen in dc or whatever yeah uh beverly beatty was just stabbed and i don't know that that was antifa i don't even know who that was space force i think um his name maybe i didn't he stabbed in um portland but there was a guy in portland who got stabbed what. So something rebel or. But the issue is if I was if I was told, you know, I'm standing between the cops and Antifa, I'm walking towards the cops. Easy. Sure. The cops are constrained.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Yeah. There are instances where cops, you know, this police brutality, people get shot, people get killed. But but cops are accountable. And so I know that if you walk up to the cops, the worst's gonna happen you're gonna get marks on your wrists from being cuffed they're gonna throw you in a really uncomfortable position the worst case scenario with antifa i got billy club pretty good in wisconsin like a month ago and my knee is still a little bit messed up but i'll still take the billy club over a kick do you guys ever play dnd dungeons and dragons there's alignment scales and you can be lawful, neutral, or chaotic.
Starting point is 00:46:06 You can be good, neutral, or evil, and you can kind of mix those two up. Cops are lawful, neutral. They seem to be. Antifa's chaotic, neutral. And the chaotic, neutral. They're chaotic. They're not neutral. Well, I think they are.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I don't think they're evil. I mean, I don't. I don't think they're out there to hurt people. That's not what evil means in D&D. What does it mean? My understanding is that it means you act in a depraven way for your own personal benefit. Yeah, evil is pretty nasty. But even chaotic neutral people are very dangerous.
Starting point is 00:46:33 There may be some that are like that, but it's not every single one of them. No, but as a group. Andrew Duncan. He was stabbed in Portland. Was that guy evil? The guy who stabbed him? He knew what he was going to do. He might have been.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Yeah. I mean, I think not all of them are neutral, but I would say as a, and not all cops are neutral. Some of them are good. Some of them are evil. But for the most part, you're looking at lawful versus chaotic. And I'd much rather side on the side of lawful than chaotic. And you always pretty much always should for the betterment of your life.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I think it's, you know, there's gonna be bad apples everywhere. It's a matter of what are the structures by which these people are being kept in check and what's the oversight, right? So people complain about the fact that our criminal justice system and our police don't have enough oversight, but Antifa has absolutely zero. So I think in any situation, those bad apples are going to take as much as they're given. And so police have a lot more. There's a lot more there to keep them from acting evil they're accountable and then antifa and black lives matter likes to
Starting point is 00:47:30 act like they're not accountable but they are because there are instances where cops are not being held accountable does not mean that all cops all the time are unaccountable which means for the most part when when i've been arrested before and it's a process and then I've left the next day or in a few hours, I've also been attacked by Antifa and far leftists. And there's no – it's unpredictable. They're vindictive. They're nasty. And nothing will be done about what they do to you. If they take your stuff, you can't get it back.
Starting point is 00:48:00 If you get arrested, the cop takes your phone. You can be like, the cop took my phone and then then file paperwork, and then eventually you find your phone, or they give it to you when you leave. Antifa will steal from you and then run and laugh. The cops are, you know, they have to appeal to the law, which is accountable to the law, the U.S. law, which is pretty good law. If we were in Turkey
Starting point is 00:48:17 or in China, the cops might be the bad guys. Good luck. I think you're right that there are obviously problems with the system and everything can be improved right and there are definitely issues in in america with respect to law enforcement but people are taking for granted the fact that that the civil unrest that you saw elsewhere where the police were using lethal force in torre square i mean well uh i don't think the cops were doing anything to our prayer yeah Yeah. That wasn't – I wouldn't call that – that was two factions fighting each other.
Starting point is 00:48:48 When the military – the military waited until they decided which side they were on, and then it was just shut down. It was over. But they did go and just start mass executing a bunch of the Muslim Brotherhood people. Oh, so there's that too, yeah. That was after the revolution. They just started going and just firing at these people, these kids. Just like, you know. Remember Kent State 1970 when the National Guard killed four kids?
Starting point is 00:49:13 I just heard about this. That was mine. I went to Kent State, actually. What year was that? 1970, May 4th. Yeah. And it was just the most gruesome national global news. It was a Vietnam protest.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Four people, four four dead that's a big deal four dead in ohio crosby stills national young wrote a song i think they shot him with rifles too yeah i believe national guard one dude got like a shot through the wrist and then like paralyzed his hand or whatever yeah and that's a big deal to us and these other countries they're mowing down crowds and we've made progress obviously because look at all the unrest we had this summer and and we didn't have police or national guard actually shooting people with lethal it's kind of it's kind of crazy think about you know the la riots that it was a rodney king incident they beat him and he lived and then the whole city went just nuts now we have like people dying and sometimes
Starting point is 00:50:02 like nothing happens it's like it's kind of weird you know but but it shows that like things are actually getting better even with the unrest so so the unrest is bad but if someone died at the hands of cops there would have been a huge unrest but people died at the hands of protesters and there was no unrest this bothers me immensely because there should be the same amount of unrest whether it's the cops or protesters protesters seem to get away with anything or compare kyle rittenhouse to uh the killing in in portland right of the trump supporter what's his name again who who killed him michael reinhold michael reinhold yeah and i mean i'm not saying i'm not justifying either one obviously but the press's coverage was discernibly
Starting point is 00:50:39 different between the two instances yep of course yeah of course they're and they're and they're writing stuff like uh kyle rittenhouse is a mass shooter and we should be terrified that his you know trump supporters are you know uh venerating this man who's a clearly killed these innocent protesters they don't care for nuance they don't care for you know understanding anything at all it's just we want we win our team the rest of you can burn so this is to me this is just an extrapolation of we want mindset we want we want we want we want the narrative to be this way this is the way the narrative is we want chas we want this we want this you know and in chas like what you were saying we want and they don't produce anything it's just take take take they wanted vegan meat
Starting point is 00:51:24 replacements because you know what i mean they can't they can't feed anything. It's just take, take, take. They wanted vegan meat replacements because, you know what I mean? They can't feed themselves and they have to go outside. They have to cross national borders. Right. Into their own territory. They're requesting foreign aid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Seriously. Shaking down local businesses. They have to invade the next floor. Yeah, they do. I think even the little taco shop there, they had a bathroom. And of course, they changed the code to, I think, ACAB in numbers.
Starting point is 00:51:49 What is that? 1312. Yeah. Yeah. Just to get on board. So what are we going to see this weekend? What do you think? Trump supporters.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I was told by the media, the right wing, got to be careful about those Trump supporters. Yeah, man. I was enjoying my uh civil unrest slash riot vacation so i'm hoping that things stay peaceful but with that being said there there are groups antifa groups that we know of that are organizing and also proud boys groups that are organizing so that's never a good recipe right um and i mean in dc with that being said generally speaking the police the park police they all much, much better at managing these situations than, for example, the Kenosha police, obviously. So they're always like I mean, the irony there is like every weekend they'd shut down the key bridge, which is relatively, you know, a bike ride away. So I'd go down there and just watch them shut it down and the irony there is they're they're chanting all cops are b words but the cops are shutting down each side of the bridge to make sure that there's no car traffic to make sure that they're safe so while they're chanting
Starting point is 00:52:53 that the cops are sitting there watching blocking traffic and then they're done with their demonstration and then they yep that's why the cops it was really funny i remember being in union square in new york and this person was screaming at a cop, you know, whose side are you on? You know, you're a traitor and all this stuff. And I was like, bro, that cop doesn't know anything about what you're talking about. And they don't care. They want to go home after work, lay back in their lounge chair and put on their DVR of the game.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Who won the game? They're going to watch it and tell their friends. Don't tell me what happened. They feed their kids too. Right. It's a job. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:24 They come home. They're stressed. They kick their boots off they lay down they're like and the wife goes like so how was work today honey and he's like some person was screaming about the one percent or something i don't even know fascist and this and that and it's like yeah yeah whatever man if if this you wouldn't be here you'd be a mist of some kind if this was fascism. Like, you know. It's really, you know, while we're dealing with this lockdown stuff, and then you look at the defund the police stuff, it really seems like there's a trend towards just chaos. Yes. Just total chaos.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Yes. Destroying the economy, destroying businesses, just destroying everything. I think there's some, on a more serious note there is multiple fronts in which i think this country is being um targeted in the economy you have these these uh like in portland for example it's all going down the drain you can't have a business because the whole place is every single night chaos and you have the lockdown businesses are going away small businesses and things like that and these rioters are just every single night. People are packing it up. But who's telling us everything that we need to know about the riots and the lockdowns?
Starting point is 00:54:34 It's these people who are getting... Well, we stepped in because of the vacuum that's there. Because these people are sitting in these multi-million dollar studios. They're still fully employed. They have no problem putting food on the table for their kids because they're making millions of dollars a year. And what are they doing? They're telling everybody to stay at home. And then they're also simultaneously downplaying the violence that's taking place as a byproduct of these protests. And the human suffering that we've witnessed firsthand, not only people getting beat up or cops getting called bad names, but people getting shot and dying. They have no connection to that.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Well, Richie, those journalists, they are essential. You guys, I don't know what you are. You're not essential. Yeah, we're like new media. Chopped liver, I don't know. Chopped liver. No, it's all essential though.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Seriously. You don't have to do much to be an essential worker. You say you are. There's no sort of... People think press passes are a real thing. They don't realize to do much to be an essential worker. Just say you are. There's no sort of – people think press passes are a real thing. They don't realize that every company just went to a printer and they just pressed print. Dude, mine is legit. Mine says United States Congress on it.
Starting point is 00:55:33 It's from the – But you can get – so the government can't – Oh, I still got Billy Clubbed while I was holding it. Right. So the issue is that the government doesn't authorize the press. So government press passes are fired. How can you? In my mind, I'm not an expert in any of this stuff, but it's like...
Starting point is 00:55:50 But does this get you into secure... It'll get me into... I can go where staffers can go on the hill. Yeah, yeah. So you can film in the hallways and stuff like that. And it's more legitimate than just something that's printed out. But apparently it's not big enough because I was holding it like this in my hand. Oh, it never works.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Saying, I'm pressed. Yes, sir. I'm getting on my knees. And I still got my butt beat. It'd be cool if you had like, I'm just thinking ahead here, like graphene clothing that could like light up, but only could be perceived by certain people. So like if you had, if a lawmaker or if the cops have like visual electronics where they, yeah, like visors, they see the press really bright on you.
Starting point is 00:56:28 But the other people can't see it. Dude, listen. Anybody can get a press badge. Anybody can wear press. Yeah, but if the rioters see their press badge, it makes it dangerous for them. You know what they use in D.C.? They use – So basically, in order to identify the sympathetic press, the protesters will give them glow sticks around their wrists of certain colors.
Starting point is 00:56:48 They change the colors. There's different identifying things that they give. And so we're sitting there and we're like, where can I get a glow stick? But then if you have a glow stick, then they're like, yo, who's this guy who has a glow stick? I always say just bring a bigger group than they have. Oh, yeah. That's all. Because then they're outnumbered and they go
Starting point is 00:57:06 well i guess we're the weird ones now and you know who are we i don't know you know well our riot squad is unfortunately only six people so that's not gonna get no nobody knows that a whole bunch of journalists show up and just take over the street yeah well i mean that's really how we formed our group in the first place is because you know shelby Shelby and I or Jorge and I or us three would go and then we'd encounter Kalen, Elijah Schaefer, Drew Hernandez, and they were kind of, we were kind of in the same boat because, like, we were getting viewed negatively by the protesters and it was a, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:36 we were looking after each other and so then we just kind of started to watch each other's backs. But it's definitely better to have, you know, five or six than it is to have. Are you guys growing the Riot Squad? each other's backs but um it's definitely better to have you know five or six than it is to have are you guys growing the riot squad oh let's let's open it up for applications out there join the riot squad you know it's you know it's funny though as i in la there's there's nobody
Starting point is 00:57:55 there's really only a few people who go out to these things and it's a relatively small scene in terms of antifa or too big these types of things and there's a lot of actual like violent people there there's like real it's easier to find out who you are there's like real bad this is not portland but but what i'm saying is though is i'm talking to uh one of my buddies and i'm like i i you know i wish we had more people i wish we could just have more people what are they going to do if there's 20 people there or 10 people there with a phone out what are they who are they gonna you know what are they gonna do the challenge then becomes that you're the story now a mob of journalists marching in los angeles which is what you know you don't want to be the story but it's a good story but he goes
Starting point is 00:58:39 he goes he goes yeah he but he goes i'll tell you people don't want to do that when i was doing isn't normal. I was in Ferguson, and it was one of the last nights of the initial riot wave. And most people had left. And all that was left, it was probably 95% media. And so I'm walking on the sidewalk, and there's this huge crowd of journalists and reporters and camera. And the armored personnel carrier, they're driving. And the cops are like, please dis disperse you must disperse i look around and i'm like there's
Starting point is 00:59:11 only two protesters and they're leaving so i said to the camera guys with us with advice at the time i was like come here come here we crossed the street and film that and i pointed to the crowd of journalists all slowly walking backwards filming and taking pictures of the police. And then the police went, media, we're talking to you. You must disperse. They don't, they just like dial tone. Like, they're just sitting there. Their brains don't work. These people think, well, it's not talking to me.
Starting point is 00:59:37 I'm not part of the story. I'm a journalist. No, no, you became, like you were the only crowd left. That's why I was was like we're crossing the street and we're gonna film them because it was funny when i was there there was all these journalists reporters and i overheard one guy say i'm just here to network no joke no joke like anderson cooper was there or whatever and all the younger just like oh look who it is cnn who and then don lemon got it wrong he was down the street or something and he was like
Starting point is 01:00:03 there's tear gas behind him and he's like the police are not using tear gas and then i'm in the tear gas live streaming going like that's tear gas that's that's what you get with the mainstream press but yeah it was it was really funny to me that journalists think that they're like invisible these are traditional journalists think they're magic of some sort but no they became the story and that that's what we saw in chas though is like basically the cable news folks would come out to do their day side hits they'd say it's very much a peaceful like atmosphere folks back to you and then they'd go back to their hotels right and then we're there at 12 a.m to 4 a.m and there's like 20 fights and there's all these people with guns and people are
Starting point is 01:00:43 drinking and there's rapes and there's major theft and we're like what the heck yeah you were there at 2 p.m man yeah like come on down at 2 a.m and then like let's let's do the hit let's see you'll get mobbed oh yeah totally i remember like during occupy wall street it was it was similar they would show up at 7 p.m. The camera truck would pull up, they'd jump out, the lady would talk for a minute, they'd get and leave. And I'm like, they didn't report anything. What we're seeing here on the ground for the last 37 and a half seconds, you know, it's like, yeah, you spend some time there. That reminds me when I was in Delaware to see Joe Biden's like, whatever it was, there was nobody there. But there was
Starting point is 01:01:21 huge mainstream media, they had huge stages set up and you just you see and there's nothing going on there was four biden supporters and it was like there's no biden support that's a lie trump haters so trump haters but but all the money that that goes into it i i think plays a part in why they're not going in it's like you know my phone costs 1500 bucks their camera costs whatever it costs and they can't risk it yeah at least they can't plus they all have armed security too i mean i've talked to the security guys all right sorry so so let's do this let's let me ask this real quick sorry do you guys ever use drones to document uh i've thought about it i haven't they're really little like it depends though because a lot of them are urban in urban areas so like the no-fly zones what i have seen though difficult in portland i have i did see
Starting point is 01:02:08 a guy set up a drone and immediately he got green lasers you stop what you're doing that was the first instance of a civilian uh actually getting fined i don't know exactly what the fine was or if there's any jail time but for flying a drone in, I was flying a drone during occupied wall street when the, the first like commercial drone started coming out, the AR parrot. And so really, really low quality tech. We did the first live broadcast via drone back during occupied wall street,
Starting point is 01:02:37 flying it over the crowd. It was crazy. It was really hard to set up. That's pretty cool. So what we did was we, uh, we, we used the software development kit
Starting point is 01:02:45 to control the drone through a laptop and then took the video feed into the laptop, screen grabbed it, and then rebroadcast it. You can learn a lot about the rides. The cops were confused.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Yeah. They were just like looking at it like... Yeah, they didn't even care about the... Back then, they're like, I have no idea what I'm seeing. I would think you could learn a lot about the rides by seeing it from above.
Starting point is 01:03:02 How you see the crowd moves is kind of an animal. I mean, we flew them in Kenosha because that was like, you know, you could learn a lot about the rides by seeing it from above. How you see the crowd moves is kind of an animal. I mean, we flew them in Kenosha because that was like, you know, you could fly there. But it's kind of difficult to set up a drone in that environment. Right. You know? And secondarily, it also, it's like a big. Far away.
Starting point is 01:03:15 People are going to throw crap at it. They're going to try to knock it down. You got to go real high and far away. And especially if you want to do like a real drone with like a good camera, it's never going to happen. They're going to knock it down. I've seen, I think it was in Turkey, someone fired a real drone with like a good camera it's never gonna happen they're gonna knock it down they they i've seen uh so in i think it was in turkey someone fired a net or something at a drone it's a long time ago and it works yeah the cops fired and they have emp guns too now em
Starting point is 01:03:35 no yeah they do yeah i mean it's like the government does like i guess you could you could theoretically use like a microwave to scramble the signal it might be something like i don't know exactly it might scramble the signal i Well, it might be something like that. I don't know exactly. It might scramble the signal. I'm not sure. But it knocks it. It just causes it to drop out of the air. So they fired a net and then it just falls, hits the ground.
Starting point is 01:03:52 It was crazy. DHS used a lot of drones in Portland, though. They were flying them off the federal courthouse like all night long. That's dangerous, man. Drones. I'm always worried because it's like they could fall. You know what I mean? They could drop.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Amazon could drop my packages. So let me ask you guys. Have you been following politics at all? Like the election stuff? Yep. As much... Maybe not as much as you, but I think, yeah. I mean, for the most part, we're staying up to date.
Starting point is 01:04:18 But what's going on? Well, so the media said Joe Biden won. But Donald Trump is in court. The certifications haven't happened yet. And Trump seems to be firing off everything in every direction. A bunch of suits, I guess a handful of them got dismissed today. One of them was significant by a federal court. It was challenging ballots that came in after Election Day, even though they were postmarked before so that might
Starting point is 01:04:45 be a really big deal and that might uh that might change things we'll see what happens that was in pa that was in pennsylvania so it was a couple so um it seems like the the greatest likelihood right now and it's like significant is you know joe biden's on track to be the next president but we're not there yet. And Donald Trump might win. Based on everything we've seen with the media saying Joe Biden won, in the event that Donald Trump somehow pulls this triple Hail Mary off, flips the results, becomes president, what do you think is going to happen? Unrest, man.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I think we're going to see unrest. Just unrest. Just, you know, rabble. Civil unrest. My vacation will end. Your vacation will end. Yeah, well, and uh my vacation will end your vacation will end yeah well it means my vacation but on a scale of one to ten with ten being the worst one being the the best one being like people handing out ice cream cones five being a protest and ten being you know war uh war go with a niner nine go with a niner just before war i mean i really think that
Starting point is 01:05:48 what we're seeing right now like it's build up on both sides yeah and so i mean obviously you know night of we didn't really have a result but as of yet we haven't really knock on wood seen much of anything but i think all of this is coming to a head. It's like the calm before the storm. Or the eye of the storm. It's like the hurricane hit. We saw the riots. And now we're in the middle thinking everything's fine.
Starting point is 01:06:14 The storm's going to move again. And then we're going to get hit by, you know. Just don't tell my mom. Okay. What about this? Trump wins. Crazy unrest the first night. People take it too far.
Starting point is 01:06:25 People die. Then they realize this is real. And it goes dead for a little while. Depends on who dies, I guess. Maybe a lot of people. Maybe a lot of people. I don't think so. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:06:36 If it was a right-wing individual, they wouldn't care. They would be like, so what? If it was a left-wing individual, they would say, how dare you? They're killing us. And they would be even more angry. It's like a family of four in their car gets burned alive or something. That's like Kent State stuff. I always forget.
Starting point is 01:06:53 No, they pepper sprayed kids, dude. They didn't kill them, though. Yeah, but I don't think no one's going to accept responsibility. I don't think. It's got to be caught on camera. And it's got to be a massive shock to the system. Like, obvious person waving Antifa flag, doing be caught on camera. And it's got to be a massive shock to the system. Like, like obvious person waving Antifa flag, doing something brutal on camera and then bragging about it and yelling like and then everyone cheers and claps for him. Maybe the problem is the media doesn't cover it.
Starting point is 01:07:16 They won't put it on TV. I don't think there's a massive shock to the system anymore. I don't think anything will shock the system at this point. We saw a guy get shot by an answer dude we saw a leftist we saw you know we saw a guy get shot in denver in the face thing happened no one cared i don't think there is a shock to the system anymore yep i think that that's that's the media that's on the media because i think that their coverage of all this has been incredibly irresponsible and they just i don't think they care i mean i think that their coverage of all this has been incredibly irresponsible. And they just, I don't think they care.
Starting point is 01:07:45 I mean, I think that they're playing a game where they want, you know, their side to prevail. Money. Their side is money. The media companies are like, look, you got a lot of activists in media, for sure. But a lot of these bosses are like, if it bleeds, it leads. Oh, was that guy got shot in the face? He was at 11. You ever see the movie Nightcrawler? That movie is so good. No? Oh, if it bleeds, it leads. Oh, was that guy got shot in the face? He was at 11. You ever see the movie Nightcrawler?
Starting point is 01:08:06 That movie is so good. No? Oh, watch it. Oh, you gotta watch that. You guys gotta watch it. You are Nightcrawler. You are. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:08:13 What is that? You just don't have a school of thought. You just don't have a school of thought. No, no, no. That dude was a sociopath. He was a sociopath. Yeah, he was. A Nightcrawler is...
Starting point is 01:08:20 Cameron's not a sociopath. He's pretty pretty. I'm a nice guy. He's a nice guy. I'm a nice guy. Nightcrawling is when journalists go out in the middle of the night and cover crime and you know accidents you know what though i did chase helicopters for a little while i was like where's that wait a second how do you were what were you in in la fighter jet no we're in la we're in la look they they have
Starting point is 01:08:37 a certain area right if you're in san bernardino they're not going to la it's fine but you know they circle around an area we do and you look for it and you and you this is this is what we we whenever i would be on the ground with my friends covering unrest you follow helicopters yeah you you're so we would pull up in la and we'd be like or we were in la we're going to anaheim where's the riot in anaheim look for the helicopter and then you look for where the helicopter is and the cops got lower flying helicopters and you just go to the helicopter. And then what happened was we did. We pulled into a gas station, and there's everyone.
Starting point is 01:09:08 This is Anaheim. Everyone's, like, it's late at night. People are going crazy. I get out of this SUV. I close the door, and then this massive rock, probably five pounds, goes right past my head and slams it in the ground. And I was like, we found it. We're here. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Yeah, people were getting shot with those sponge rounds. You know, the rubber bullets, the big. Those are the worst. Those are the most painful by far. Yeah. What are those? I didn't get hit. Was it 40? I got hit with one of the quad, man.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Is it 44 or 40 millimeter? 40. 40 millimeter? It could be like 39. Will they expand on impact? No, no, no. They wear them. It's like a really hard, just like rubber.
Starting point is 01:09:42 I think I have one in a box from france what do you think i was in france i got one what do you think on a scale of one to ten if biden wins trump supporters are gonna be like we'll try again in four years i yeah i mean i i think there may be more like people are gonna start well you know the new campaign starts today and yeah you know that's that's probably what we're gonna see but the far left is not gonna be okay with biden they're gonna keep doing what they're doing. Because also, I mean, even if Biden wins in Philly just a couple of weeks ago, like literally on the night of the riots, we were about 10 miles away from the riots took place earlier in the night and we were filming the protesters. And one of the protesters said I like put the quote on my Twitter was she basically said, you guys are telling me that the author of the crime bill
Starting point is 01:10:26 and somebody who calls themselves top cop are your answer to our problems? Absolutely not. Like this fight is just starting. So I don't think necessarily like that just because Biden becomes president that all- No, of course not. I mean, BLM existed when Obama was president.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Yeah, it started under Obama. And he made everything worse. And then Trump inherited it all. And it's only it only got worse. You know what will be different, though, is the way that the press treats those. Oh, wow. Yeah. They're going to villainize the protesters.
Starting point is 01:10:54 As soon as Biden is sworn in, the press is going to turn around. They already they already are saying that Bernie Sanders and sanders and warren are locked out of the biden cabinet so elizabeth yeah so elizabeth warren praises joe biden saying like and the and the progressive wing saying without him you know without the progressives biden couldn't make this victory and then biden's like get him out of here yeah bye-bye because bernie's an independent actor and they can't they can't tell him what to do i remember but but joe biden's gonna throw red meat to the progressives because too much of the Democratic Party has become progressive. But it's going to be to the bulk that are passive, the passive progressives. Andrew Yang, give him like a nice cushy desk job.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Yep. And yeah, yeah, we're going to do a UBI commission. And then you're going to get a bunch of progressives being like, we're working on it. Yay. And then the more extreme organizers are going to be booted out. The leadership will be booted out. And they're just going to try everything in their power to placate them. So it'll be bad for everybody.
Starting point is 01:11:51 But hey, you know, that's what they get. I love it, man. We just found out that the U.S. officials were lying to Trump about how many troops we have in the Middle East, in Syria. Yes. So that when he was ordering the withdrawal, they gave him incorrect numbers so he couldn't like they just like oh don't worry trump you've already withdrawn most of the most of the soldiers so good go and then trump's like okay excellent they were basically defying lawful orders from the president we have had four years of government officials defying presidential legal orders that would be imprisonment if i was why aren't they
Starting point is 01:12:25 getting good they should all go to prison yep whoever whoever like called that shot should be imprisoned i think for sure i would say so especially when it's a president who was elected on a platform specifically of withdrawing those troops and it's like that the people spoke with their votes and now we have unelected officials in our military or in the white house basically defying that i mean i think that's more that for me is more angering than the fact that they're defying donald trump it's that the there were however many tens of millions of people who voted for him and they're saying no no democracy's not for me they're just breaking the law for their own personal gain and for their own psychotic beliefs and their arrogance and their ego.
Starting point is 01:13:08 And Joe Biden is now back. He's back, maybe. And now they're talking about, guess what? Guess what? Hillary Clinton cabinet position. Don't let Joe get hot. Don't let Joe get hot. Hillary Clinton cabinet position.
Starting point is 01:13:18 That's what they're saying. It's so funny to me that they're talking about the will of the people and democracy and voting. And they're having people in these positions lying to Trump about how many people are overseas. That is such nonsense. If you actually cared about what the people thought, you would care about removing troops from overseas. You would really care about taking the troops from overseas. You would care about their parents. You care about everyone who's affected by the wars.
Starting point is 01:13:40 But they don't. They really, really don't. Which makes me think that they don't care about the votes either but i don't know i mean that's that's why i mean i think that's a large reason why trump got elected because like basically dc is just on an island and and everybody is completely removed from the human suffering and they use low information voters to gain power and then now you know i go to my friends and they're all pro-war all of a sudden i mean they're like well-war all of a sudden. They're like, well, Trump's bad.
Starting point is 01:14:06 War is good. And I'm like, you think war is good? Well, it's better than Trump. Okay. I got to ask. Awesome. Who wanted Clinton in the cabinet? It was just something I saw on Fox.
Starting point is 01:14:21 They were like, new conversations about Hillary Clinton may be joining the cabinet. It could be BS because everyone was like, is Hillary Clinton somehow still going to become president? Dude, I vote Secretary of State, right? Oh, my God. Secretary of State. And then the Clinton Foundation comes back and then she can fulfill her contracts. All the regular old stuff that we saw before is coming back and they're just going to protect the thing that they – No, it's Secretary of State and then she can fix Libya. Yeah, what's going on in Libya?
Starting point is 01:14:42 How is Libya, by the way? Slave trade, factionalized civil war. Open air slave trades, yeah. Yeah. Doing well. Oh, thanks, Hillary. Refugee crisis. People on boats flee to Europe.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Did Osprey Global Solutions get their arms running contracts? You know it. So better than Trump's America. Oh, yeah. You know, the worst thing about Trump america was that he was trying to bring these soldiers back 2016 i remember he said we're pulling out of everywhere that was one of the things now but yeah but when he first got elected he didn't he didn't do that no it was only in the past couple of years he's slowly moved towards it was really only this last year he did a real he
Starting point is 01:15:19 did a much better job so i had been paying attention for too long and i guess i was used to nothing ever being done so but no i'm always like i'm always like well maybe i i give you know some slack like maybe it took a little while to get to things trump really really was not supposed to win dude the craziest news of all obama ran on that platform too but obama obama's foreign policy was completely in line with american foreign policy he folks i'm gonna blow you up with a drone folks no yeah he brought folks out blow you up with a drone that's not true these kids gotta get blown up somehow so i i saw it whenever they're not gonna blow themselves up yeah that's what i uh that's that's that's whenever whenever people post this meme you know they post something on facebook like why is our military budget so big and i was like
Starting point is 01:16:05 well you know who's gonna blow these kids you know what i mean like someone's gotta drop these drone bombs so that's that's it's it's been the u.s war machine obama said he he runs on bringing our troops back he gets elected he he starts new conflicts new wars he brings in more troops ndaa you know signs that the aumf it just gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse what's the aumf the authorization for use of military force what would it do so it wasn't him necessarily congress re-upped our uh our military presence in the middle east basically saying we are going to sign this thing that says we should stay and he was like you bet jeez yeah yeah so it just carries on and you could keep her foreign war folks you know he said
Starting point is 01:16:47 he said that word more than any other yeah yeah any after after him uh that word skyrocketed i look at the stats on google it went up and now now it's just skyrocketed it's like a yeah there you go there you go there you go two things one the ndaa national defense authorization act is Two things. One, the NDAA, National Defense Authorization Act, is like the promulgate of the – I think that's the right word – the Patriot Act. No, the NDAA is something they do every year. It's the National Defense Authorization Act. So like the AUMF, it's like, okay, here's this year's budget for what we're going to do, and then they send it to them. 2012 they added a provision that allowed for indefinite detention so under the that that national defense authorization act the u.s could essentially rendition anybody off to an off to an offshore oil rig and then lock them up without charge or trial and that was it same thing lincoln did during the civil war he suspended habeas corpus yeah i mean but what they're doing now seemingly has i guess it's the war on terror. I was talking to Andreas last night.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Suspending habeas corpus is similar to creating the Patriot Act. So a few years after they suspended habeas corpus, the next couple presidents later reinstated it. So I think we should repeal the Patriot Act. Yeah, good luck with that. It was up for, like, a renewal. It was. They renewed it, right? Yep.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Yeah. But we could repeal it at any time right it's listen when trump tried to pull our troops out of afghanistan both democrats and republicans said no they love it dude he stopped dying his hair i don't we haven't got it what do you mean yeah his hair is white again no you were watching some grainy are you sure dude yes completely white this is you know you know you know the thing about the the lighter you know the thing about the the y It looks lighter. You know the thing about the Yanny and Laurel thing? What about it?
Starting point is 01:18:27 You know, people... What kind of phone did you have? Really? Yes. That's chalked it all up to the phone. It was. I think that was debunked, the blue and yellow dress.
Starting point is 01:18:35 It was what kind of phone do you have? It's more than that because people will be like, we looked at it on the same phone and we just saw different colors. Well, it's the same as the figurine, the ballerina, right? Some people saw it clockwise. Some people saw it it counterclockwise you don't remember that one maybe
Starting point is 01:18:49 i just wanted to see why but but with the ballerina thing what's the point though of this of what analogy like what are we what are we saying here like i don't know yeah different people see different things when they look at the same thing i got yeah i got you the mind's interpretation i mean it looked completely stark white. Oh, yeah. Trump's hair. On TV today. Because you were watching a low res grainy internet video.
Starting point is 01:19:11 No, no. It was on CNN. No, no, no. Or Fox News earlier. It was YouTube, dude. Maybe, but it's the same network, same channel that I've been watching for the last three months. Have you ever seen a picture of Trump from the AP?
Starting point is 01:19:22 They boost the saturation so his face is bright orange. You ever notice this? It's insane. Yes, Trump spray tans. Yes, you can see the mark on his face. But they really go into Photoshop, outline his face, and then blast the orange to make him look like a clown. It's not remembering it. They do it every single day.
Starting point is 01:19:42 I go on and I'm looking at photos of Trump all the time when I'm making thumbnails and stuff. And I'm like, there's the AP and ABC again, boosting the saturation on Trump's face by 200%. Then you go to like PBS or you go to Fox and Trump's face looks just kind of pale. You know what, though? Take that example, right? And then compare that to the way that the press treated FDR, who was a very controversial and polarizing figure at the time. But the press basically agreed with the White House that they weren't going to show that he was in a wheelchair. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Yeah. And there were the majority of Americans didn't even know that he was in a wheelchair. Yeah. And that was because the American press agreed that it was good for the country to make our leader look strong. And I think now that kind of like, oh, we're on this side or this side, but we're all American and we all want our country to succeed. Where the heck is that? That's kind of interesting to me because they could do the same thing with Trump. They could do the same thing, be like, he has his foibles.
Starting point is 01:20:41 He has his weirdness. He definitely has some weaknesses weaknesses but we're going to try to make him look strong like we're really going to try to make him look strong but they don't they did it with fdr they won't do it with trump however weird he is however strange he is whatever weird foibles he has they won't change how they view him and this is how they project him to the rest of the world why do you think that is actually an issue i don't know why that is they just hate him well trump's not trump wasn't supposed to win i think like i mentioned this the other day when i remember when trump won and i was standing outside of this building when trump was meeting with
Starting point is 01:21:13 republican leadership and apparently like they're all mad and they all hated him trump didn't play ball they sat him down said here's our foreign policy plan here's what we've been working on here's why we're doing it and trump Trump went, no, I got to say, I'm looking at the independent, the New York post, uh, internet reacts to Donald Trump's new gray hair at live press conference. Oh,
Starting point is 01:21:32 okay. All right then. Well, there you go. It wasn't a man. He stopped dying his hair. He's given up. He's,
Starting point is 01:21:37 he's done with the crap. Yeah. But that means he, Donald Trump's was a celebrity before. Is he going to retirement? He's becoming real. I don't know. I think he's going to do some real stuff.'s not dying evolution yeah he's like no more games
Starting point is 01:21:48 well you know what the there was a real turning point i think it was two two years ago at cpac when he actually made fun of his bald spot yeah on the big screen i don't know if you remember he's like look at how big my bald spot is like i thought that was like, I mean, a moment where he like showed some humanity. No, no, no. What's really funny is the left. They don't know anything about what's happening outside their bubble. The really good example is when they did the Proud Boys hashtag and they were like, take that, Proud Boys. We're making fun of you. And then Enrique Tarrio was like, here's a photo of Gavin McInnes making out with Milo Yiannopoulos. I don't think you know what therique tarrio is like here's a photo of gavin mckinnis making out with milo unopolis i don't think you know what the proud boys is oh and by the way after trump mentioned
Starting point is 01:22:30 or after the proud boys are mentioned in that debate everybody was looking around for instances of the proud boys being violent over the summer they couldn't find any there's nothing shelby talcott and i were at outside of the chest yeah and we filmed the proud boys beat the crap out of this guy but so all these people from daily Beast and stuff like that were sharing our video. But that just goes to show how crap the coverage is. The point is, in terms of them not knowing, they think Trump is always outraged. They're making fun of my hands. That's what they think is happening.
Starting point is 01:23:01 So when you watch the Family Guy episode where Trump's in it, his hands are all small. He's really fat. He's got an orange face. Trump doesn't care. He doesn't. When he tweeted kafifi, he rolled with it and started doing more. These people have never been to a Trump rally. The famous bit where he was like, these lights, they make me look orange.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Like he knows. He's self-aware. He has a good time. He's laughing. And people laugh with him and they understand it. But the left doesn't know anything. So they're like, Donald Trump is orange. And they're like, yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:23:29 It's really funny he made that joke. Also, the degree to which the press going nuts about him constantly, like the reason why he won that election is because CNN would not stop talking. There were 17 candidates. But all they talked about was Donald Trump. And he's kind of like Kanye in that way. He understands that negative attention is still attention he stayed relevant for 40 years because he got five billion dollars with a free press they said wow free press whereas all and it was and it's not just that it's um there's a finite amount of screen time so the more trump dominated
Starting point is 01:23:58 screen time the more he pushed everyone out so cnn was airing these trump speeches these trump rallies now they won't do it you know now they're like don't don't you know don't don't show it everyone out. So CNN was airing these Trump speeches, these Trump rallies. Now they won't do it. You know, now they're like, don't don't, you know, don't don't show it. When Trump was doing the coronavirus press briefings earlier this year, his approval rating was skyrocketing. And so they immediately were like, no, no, no, no, no, shut him down. Shut him down. He's lying. He's lying. It's like he's lying. He's standing next to Dr. Fauci. No, what they realized was his polling was improving because they were covering it. So they stopped covering it, saying he was lying so they won't show the American people. Man, I tell you, a person is smart. People are dumb. It's amazing to me how easily manipulated the
Starting point is 01:24:34 masses are with such obvious BS from these networks. One mistake Trump made big time is he didn't start a YouTube channel and just start blogging. He'd still be he'd be the most popular president of all he would be yep and he'd have a youth vote too because the authenticity of the youtube channel the vlog and like they would they would be like donald trump did this and then trump would be on video and he'd be like i didn't do that he'd be hanging out with somebody and then he'd have his friend be like dude they're saying trump did this look we're filming it right now that's not what happened and then he'd have all these people watching it being like, yeah, that's not what happened. He's got the video. I'm just surprised there isn't more rappers
Starting point is 01:25:09 that are for this guy. They've always been like counterculture and to some degree they've always been cutting edge, the punk rock thing, but it's not all of them. I'm just surprised there's not more of them who are like, yeah, that guy's a gangster. Think about if Trump had a vlogger, a camera guy, follow him around 24-7.
Starting point is 01:25:27 24-7. Because then all the times they've accused Trump of doing something, he'd be like, it's on the vlog for today. It's in the video. It's interesting you say that, though, because running the video program at The Caller, we basically run all of the White House broadcasts, just the briefings and trump's address in the rose garden when the the like white house live that account it's like it's run the same way that it was run under barack obama's presidency and so like trump does these things where he like gives the address and he like tries to look super presidential and but i'm like yo the lighting is crap like you're you're not a buttoned up guy who's like going to give that kind of, you're right. He should just kind of like, just roll with it.
Starting point is 01:26:09 There were a lot of instances where he's in a private setting where he can't film and then they leak things that are like not true. It's really interesting now to hear all these stories where they're like, Trump is talking about launching a digital news network or a digital media network. Or Trump is planning his run for 2024. And it's like, I don't believe any of that. Where does that come from? A source. A a source told us a source close to trump and but they're but when they're saying it that's that's singular right they're trying that single source single source reporting single source so i didn't go to journalism school but i think that's that's bad you're not supposed to do that so the issue is they're like putting out a message that demoralizes potential support for the president by saying he's giving up.
Starting point is 01:26:47 He's giving up. He gave up everybody. It's over. Trump knows it's over. He's not trying. He's not trying. Stop supporting him. Don't give him money.
Starting point is 01:26:53 But Trump is doing everything he can to win. He's not giving up. Not at all. That reminds me that one source thing. Remember, what was that headline? It was like sources say close to the president that he's incredibly lonely. No, it's at odds. What was it?
Starting point is 01:27:09 I remember that, though. People close to the president say he has no one close to him. He has no one close to him. Yeah, it's amazing. That's verbatim. I thought that was so funny. Doesn't that, see, in my opinion, that kind of humanizes him a little bit. It does.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Yeah, it kind of does. That's the last thing you want to do if you hate the president. Exactly. Well, it kind of speaks to millennials who are like i have no friends like i think all of us kind of feel that i'm lonely too yeah we know i totally get it i dig it man we think tim what yeah man it's very pepe the frog are you lonely tim no i'm good i'm i live in this in this big old house a ton of crazy people it's pretty fun you know it's really funny really funny. These people, they watch the show and they hear Ian yell this crazy stuff. They don't realize.
Starting point is 01:27:50 It's just what I do. All day. But it actually gets really crazy. We were talking about weird, crazy scenarios. You brought it up the other day, but I can't remember exactly what it was we were talking about before the show. And it was just really crazy stuff about aliens and Civil War and other dimensions and just all this crazy conversation. That we're being controlled by the galactic core, sending information to our brains? Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 01:28:13 I think our brains are like radio. So your brain basically grows like this, and it's opening up and expanding. And I think what's happening is it's getting etched. You know the neurons are electromagnetic. I think it's getting etched. And so it's are like electromagnetic. I think it's getting etched. And so it's creating like a pattern, like a Braille code that you read. And it's being read by an external source that's then feeding you thoughts based on the shape of your brain. Okay, that's wonderful.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Stuff like that. You know the crazy thing is – I want what he's having. No, no, but that's what I was going to say. Ian's not doing drugs. He's really – Oh, my gosh. Too sober for like a year almost.
Starting point is 01:28:47 No, he's got his plasma ball, and he'll sit there, and we'll talk about crazy stuff. It's a new kind of high. And look, we've got tons of people here. And actually, the street skate park and lounge is being built in the next couple weeks. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. So Richie's skated. Yep.
Starting point is 01:29:00 You pulled off a frontside disaster today on the- I did. I'm improving. I just have to keep coming here, and I'll keep getting oh yeah whenever you want man come on skate skate skate party you guys might regret that there no of course go skate skate park i'll bring a six-pack every time yeah we're uh we're gonna be building out the street section we have a detached garage it's gonna be a full street skate park and then it's also got an attachment which is gonna be you haven't seen that and that's where you thrive is on this on the street stuff i mean i'm excited is it yeah yeah yeah pretty much you know what i i had because
Starting point is 01:29:29 we played skate uh a weekend or two ago you killed me kaylin goes did i get an s off of him i go no no i don't think so but i went and i and i searched on youtube i decided i've been like tim pool pro skater or something you know what i mean i don't know uh and you did that trick that one where you... Hank Dunn hard float? Yeah, that thing. Yeah, so I got a couple of videos. But that was like 12 years ago, that video.
Starting point is 01:29:50 That was, I think, three or four years ago. Let's produce a new skate video. I mean, yeah, that's the plan. The plan is to do a vlog. So we need someone who skates, somebody who skates well and can film and is good with music and video production and all this stuff to uh basically be in-house
Starting point is 01:30:07 vlogging every day i'd like to take this opportunity to tender my resignation from the but imagine like like like in the morning i'm working doing my show but then ian's you know making some crazy bread with like saffron or something and talking about galactic brainwaves or whatever here we go yeah yeah so that's the plan working with lasers so i think we're going to build a laser in the back room in the garage to the legal extent that we can what power what's the i don't know we have a laser scientist in the house 1.21 gigawatts like um what are they called electro lasers they're those plasma induced laser channels laser induced ionized gas and then send a laser beam.
Starting point is 01:30:45 And that ionizes the gas and then sends a What do you use the laser for? It's really safe. You can make graphene with it. What is graphene? Graphene is a monolayer of atomic carbon
Starting point is 01:30:56 and it's hexagonally laced. It's very cool. Look up a picture of it if you want to see. And what you do, one way to make it is you take a vacuum chamber and you'll take a strip of copper and then you deposit carbon dioxide onto the copper by injecting gas into it.
Starting point is 01:31:10 And then you use a laser to etch off the layer of graphene oxide that has condensed onto the copper and you have these strips of graphene and you roll them out. What do you do? You smoke it afterwards? You take pencil life. I've never tried that. What is the purpose of that? You can make clothing with it.
Starting point is 01:31:24 You can sell it basically basically, in bulk. We need to create an industry where we can start mass producing. I knew it. Graphene industrial complex. I knew that. You can make walls. No, you're wearing a burlap sack. I don't get to participate in society anymore. All these people with their neoprene, their graphene.
Starting point is 01:31:39 No. We should talk to Andreas about it. He knows a lot about graphene and what you can do with it. It's a very versatile That guy knows almost everything. Approximate knowledge We should talk to Andreas about it. He knows a lot about graphing and what you can do with it. It's a very versatile. That guy knows almost everything. Approximate knowledge of almost everything. We should take Super Chats. Yes, we should.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Super Chats. That's correct. So a ton of comments from people about, you know, because like we open talking about censorship and Alex Jones. It's on BitChute. If you go to BitChute, which is B-I-t-c-h-u-t-e and look up the team guest irl it archives and backs up all of our all of our stuff so you never check it out there is look just a whole bunch of super chats are saying things like uh his name is alex jones and stuff like that yeah yeah so let's see uh just a whole bunch of the same people had their
Starting point is 01:32:23 heads bowed while you're saying that people are people are saying you guys are like had your heads saying please put up the aj podcast on bit shoot it's always been up the moment we did this show it was there i want to put it on minds and start pushing the minds because that site will only delete your stuff if it's illegal and what he did as far as i can tell is not illegal it just violated youtube terms i downloaded minds in 2018 and there was nobody on there. Is it different now? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Two million. Yeah, something like that. The problem is it's an anonymous network. So if you think it's someone you know, it might not be. But it's like open source technology. Okay, I like that. So you're telling me there's no blue checks there? No blue checks.
Starting point is 01:32:58 I'm a fan of open source. Actually, I think you can get blue checked, but you got to go through a process where you confirm that it's just your YouTube channel. Like you reference an outside channel and be like, this is my external network. All right. We got it. We got a good one for you guys. Eric Miller says, wait, so you're telling me Chaz started a makeshift country because they hated police, then created their own Chaz police.
Starting point is 01:33:18 Yeah. And when they felt they felt unsafe, would call Chaz police. Yeah. Just America with extra steps. Actually. But it was, they were self-policing also, Eric.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Like, I walked in there and I was filming just, you know, broad daylight, what was kind of the scene, what was going on. And a couple of white girls
Starting point is 01:33:35 walked past me and they go, hey, white guy, you can't be filming. You know why? Because there's black people who are filming and you're taking up
Starting point is 01:33:42 their filming. I didn't understand it. They followed me. Finite amount of video in the world. I said, I can't film. No. And they followed me around and I said,
Starting point is 01:33:52 leave me alone, please leave me alone. I'm sure that were jazz was special. Wasn't it? Jazz was actually like, I'm it's a one. Is it a once in a lifetime? She was,
Starting point is 01:34:01 she was there with me the moment I walked into the chest and she goes, you were like a kid in a candy store. Who else was there though? We had Elijah Schaefer, Drew Hernandez, Julio Rosas, George Ventura.
Starting point is 01:34:12 No, I was there for like a couple weeks, wasn't it? A month at least. It had to be a month. It was a month. I think it was a month. That's so quick.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Earlier you mentioned that it might, like as we go towards this technocratic evolution, that something like chas might actually be valuable like an archetype what i'm saying about that my point was was is that the right thing right because if we if we're if they're basically cornering us to where if we step out of line at all we we can't live anymore you can't exist in society with everyone else so are they on
Starting point is 01:34:44 the right track in terms of let's depart from society let's get rid of well there are a bunch of people forget about the baz in bc which is short-lived the autonomous zone in new york there's one right around where george floyd died which actually i didn't realize until i went there there's like a mini autonomous zone but that spans about two blocks there where they have checkpoints and they like they will restrict you from filming in there we had to do it very subtly oh wow but that's that's there they're also uh in philly i might still be there they created a homeless camp that's never gone away and it's a functional chas is that the i think they just cleared them out i think they did just recently i just spoke
Starting point is 01:35:19 to some to some local people one thing they cleared them out but I forgot what I was going to say. Go ahead. What you can do to really make those things legit is to build them around vertical farms. These people couldn't farm at all. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. That's what my point was. You need the specialization.
Starting point is 01:35:34 There's no one there who has skills. There's no one there who has skills. And the funny part about Chaz was that they welcomed the homeless, and the homeless came and took all of their food. And they didn't know what to do. They didn't know what to do. They didn't know what to do. And that's when they asked for the vegan meal replacement.
Starting point is 01:35:47 I remember that. These vertical—have you guys been studying the vertical farm in New Jersey, the biggest one in the world? The vertical stuff reminds me of that movie Dread. Everything's in the peach tree. You know what they did in New York during Occupy Wall Street for the food, to solve the food problem? There's nowhere to farm at Zuccotti Park.
Starting point is 01:36:03 So they went dumpster diving and then gave the dumpster food to people and i remember walking up to them giving out dumpster food and i was like where did you guys get this and they were like we went dumpster diving and i'm like you're giving it out to tourists and they were like yeah anybody who wants it and i said what do you think the press is going to say when they find out you're giving dumpster food to strangers and they immediately were like oh and they shoved it all into a garbage bin and like we're like oh whoops in july though the the new york autonomous zone in front of the city hall there which was just on that tiny little part yeah that the food there was really good they were getting it brought in yeah it was great fancy they had better food than we would just need electricity and foods uh maybe water a water
Starting point is 01:36:43 source oh so maybe maybe water. Probably water. Maybe not. You could make it if you had enough electricity on site by condensing. We could just use hydrolysis and do all the science. So just make it next to a river and get a water wheel going. That'll be our power. Or like solar-powered vertical farms. Hydrogen.
Starting point is 01:36:55 We'll just take water. Water source. Rivers would be ideal. Yeah, yeah. The air. Tim, you want to start an autonomous zone right here in this water? I hereby declare this the- Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Tim's autonomous zone. The DePaz. Just like Pretoria. The Tim Pool autonomous zone. Yes, this uh we i hereby declare this the uh what are they doing in rojava i don't know it's in it's in it's like the it's like the yeah it's like the anarchist uh wet dream oh and it's ina. Oh, really? Yeah. Look it up. I hadn't heard of this. Look it up. Holy cow. You guys should look into it. Well, let's take some more super chats.
Starting point is 01:37:28 We got real distracted. Yeah, my bad. Kate McKnight says, I sent my dad a link to Will of the People. He said it reminds him of classic Rush songs, which is probably the biggest compliment he can give. Wow. Dude, that song is good.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Yeah, it is. Music video's good, too. Rush, man. So this is a bunch of people are saying, like, where's the episode? Where's it? Like, I'm seriously scrolling through all these Super Chats, and most of them are like, Sorry, guys.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Where is it? It's on BitChute. Yeah. Just keep saying that. Yeah, yeah. It's on BitChute. It's on BitChute. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Maybe Scriber can host it on our Scriber TV. Do you want Alex Jones? Do it. I don't know. That's who we got. I mean, that's what people want, it sounds like. Definitely don't do that.
Starting point is 01:38:08 Harrison Gray says, Ian is the founder, CEO, and prime investor in Big Graphene. Let's do it. That's been my goal for about three years. I think now's the time. Let's export it around the world. Blazing Swayze says,
Starting point is 01:38:21 I coined Tim Foyle in one of the first episodes and i've heard it several times since congratulations good sir tim foil tim foil wait what is that what is tim foil like tin foil tim but it's like the foil that tim puts on us yeah i guess we can make like silver foil beanies and kevin vega says love your show you should cover the peruvian riots the president was recently impeached and 80% of the Peruvian believe it was a coup. Interesting. We were just talking about that. It's crazy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:52 I didn't know about it. Mane says, BS, your show shut down last night. Elijah Schaefer had Gazi Kadzo on Slightly Offensive. Dude is way crazier. He's the black supremacist, dude. Yeah, that was crazy. I saw clips on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:39:06 He said all kinds of crazy stuff. That's wild. Did he get shut down? I got to tell you, like a good portion of these Superchats are just talking about Alex Jones being taken down.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Come on, guys. We got cool guests on tonight. Yeah. Jonathan Hernandez says, Ian is a Borg. Calling it now when we all get assimilated. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:39:21 No, I will do everything I can. There are four lights. There are four. That was the Cardassians. Oh, it was. That wasn't the Borg. Not a Borg, I will do everything I can. There are four lights. That was the Cardassians. Oh, it was. That wasn't the Borg. Not a Borg, I promise you. Plug me in. I'll go in to the Matrix to make sure that we're all safe when we all go in.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Here we go. Here we go. Evan Meschenik. I'm a U.S. Navy Master at Arms, and we use EMP guns to shoot down drones over military property. Fun fact. They are classified as an IED when they land. Wow. Oh, cool. Crazy. property fun fact they are classified as an ied when they land wow oh cool crazy some people are recommending we do a show with crowder that'd be fun yeah but we don't once we once we get a lot of people don't know this too we talk about how we can't skype people in i'm
Starting point is 01:39:57 gonna say two things the first is that we don't have internet so running two different lines so that we're streaming to someone else. And back. And then broadcasting that back out. It's already difficult enough when our internet is bad. But the other issue is. Dude remote interviews are bad. It's not the same.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Not the same. You can't talk over each other. You can't argue. You can't laugh. It's like I talk. Then wait. Then you talk. Then you wait.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Then I talk. Then wait. And so it just does not work out. I talked to Rob Doe earlier. So polite. Me and Lydia were on a chat with him him and said that i wanted to go down to alex's house compound area and shoot and learn how to shoot with you and do like a mini documentary he's like oh totally he's got automatic gun range so eventually we could do a tour we will we will buy a big rv this is what people don't get you know a class a rv like used it's actually not that expensive
Starting point is 01:40:46 it's expensive it's like i think you can get it for like 30 grand but we're talking about a tour bus with a bathroom and a shower and a bedroom and a kitchen and a living room like a full bus class a and they got them on craigslist and rv places used granted it's like a 19 you know like a 2002 and it so it was designed for people who were born in the 20s or whatever because like retirees who buy these things but but you got a full mobile house and we could do the show live or maybe i don't know we get an actual tour bus that's probably too expensive let's do it we should aim for that yeah dude you just built a skate ramp in the basement that's not that expensive it's wood it's a good it's a bunch of
Starting point is 01:41:25 wood and people like putting nails in wood if you guys want tim to have a tour bus should we know what to do should we start a gofundme yeah yeah be like we these things are too expensive but we could get a class a because they're not that jones has a freaking tank or he has an apc or something like that i feel like a tour bus i got a... Have you seen that thing? I don't know. Yeah, I have. I saw it in Tulsa. And Owen Troyer was hanging out of it.
Starting point is 01:41:50 I'm pretty sure those things cost between $150,000 and like $300,000. Oh. Those armored, like, crazy vehicles. Yeah. How much are the big tour buses you're talking about? So, like, a legit tour bus, they can cost like a million bucks. Like, the full celebrity fancy ones. Wow.
Starting point is 01:42:03 But if you've got, like, a Class A modern 2020, I think they're like 100 grand. So obviously you don't pay up front. You get a loan and then you pay monthly or whatever. Hey, Super Chats maybe could help us pay for it. That'd be a fun goal. Sure, but I tell you, I'd rather have an old one that's like cheap and looks like it was made for people who are born in 1920. Or like an Airstream, like a nice, you know, those like bright silver Airstreams.
Starting point is 01:42:28 No, those are like super. They're like actually expensive though because they're retro. Those always remind me of the American Airlines planes from like the 90s or whatever. Just chrome, you know? Chrome.
Starting point is 01:42:38 Yeah. Well, they always have that weird like, they design RVs for retirees for the most part. So whenever I go, I'm like, these do not look cool at all. We would have – give me a blue one, just blue, and make the inside look normal. But it's always based upon the sensibilities of somebody who was in their 30s in the 70s.
Starting point is 01:42:56 You know what I mean? So it's like they want – they're designed that way. I guess because – and then they never drive them anyway. I don't know. I guess it's the point. RVs rarely get used. They're just sitting people's drive trophies no it's because they want to use them but they use them for like their vacation once a year or something yeah but if we did it we would set up the studio inside we'd have the computer we'd have 5g lights probably
Starting point is 01:43:17 multiple cell networks and like cell boosters so the van i have now can do this but i can't do a full show i can do my show just me talking we can't do a full podcast right so we would need a full size you know bus that'd be cool though because when you drive around the country and we could drive to the guests that are on the show oh yeah we could like we could do a show at a skate park and be like we're gonna be at the skate park hanging out and we're gonna have this person come on yeah be cool stuff maybe maybe in the future maybe in the future i like it we'll see where's the crystal ball let's see rawar says calling the election now emperor trump there you go the pool dork says concept false frag grenade that upon detonation plays audio of aj growling on the show just toss them for laughs they actually have those there's a uh like like what is it called there's gadget
Starting point is 01:44:02 shops where you can get annoyance devices and they're like it's not a grenade it's a little thing and you press a button and roll it and then in five seconds it makes it plays the recorded sound so you literally could do that they use that in kenosha the um what do they call them it shoots out sound waves that are really annoying to disperse the pro the mosquito i think it would work better if it was just alice jones voice there are devices you can buy that at random intervals within like every couple minutes chirps and you hide it in someone's room or office and they won't know where it's coming from and it's randomly bursting so there's no way to like figure it out yeah yep they're like these little tiny things you just turn it on
Starting point is 01:44:39 it's called an l rad long range oh no the l reds are weapons yeah those are like those are weapons those are that's what are weapons. Those are. That's what law enforcement uses. Maybe they're using like a mild version of them. No, no, no. Remember those really loud noises? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Are you talking about the siren? Are you talking about the. It was like. It's everything. It's speech. It's a really high pitch. An LRAD is a speaker. And it's called a long range acoustic device.
Starting point is 01:45:01 And they can talk over it. Or they can blast really high-pitched chirping. Yeah, that's what it was like. And, dude, the craziest thing is you've ever heard one of these things? I was in Anaheim, and I'm probably a half mile away, and I can see all the cars in the distance. And then all of a sudden, they say, this is the Anaheim police. You must disperse. But it sounded like the guy was standing right in front of me saying it.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Yes, yes. It's the craziest experience because they're so far 50 yards away or football field away and it's directed exactly yeah where you are so you it sounds like they're sitting next to you saying you must disperse and i'm like whoa the voice of god it's the voice of god yeah yep the l rad i went to uh i went to i went to this weapons expo in brazil it was really cool where all of the companies show off their weapons there's like military from all these different countries walking around in uniforms and i went up to like this glass case and they have all the the riot control stuff and i was like i think i got shot with that one once but then the guy from lrad was there and he was smiling and happy and he was
Starting point is 01:45:56 blasting the noise at people he was like yeah look buy it from me it hurts doesn't it it was funny i think they're gonna start using those from orbit eventually. Just be like, you'll be outside and they'll be like, do not step across the street. Don't do it, Ian. Put your mask on. Yeah. No. This world.
Starting point is 01:46:15 The masks. Dr. Fauci's going to get an LRAD. Yeah, he's going to say, do what you're told. It's time to do what you're told, Tim. We got a super chat from Anton Maxson, but what is this? We got Tim, Tim's cousin, young Matthew McConaughey, smart shaggy from Scooby-Doo. All right, all right, all right. The lovely, lividly level Lydia. Justin Buston, love you guys.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Oh, I can ollie manual, and I have a 4K Sony AX53 camcorder. I can learn. Teach me the ways. I've got some competition now. All right. Oh, yeah. I think you guys are going to have to skate for it. Play a game of skating yeah I'll
Starting point is 01:46:46 lose but whoever whoever lands we can maybe like fight play actually just while you're skating well let's let's create an iron man of of skate competition okay there's a variety that way you have you have some
Starting point is 01:46:58 I'd have it yeah you got a shot chance gotcha whoever lands a blunt kickflip first okay give me one kickflip out seven years and six to seven years and i could probably do one kickflip fakie on the six foot how about uh a front side disaster which i did today on the six foot oh okay i'm gonna have to work on that one it's good so the the street course is gonna be fun but we're only gonna have three foot quarters at the ends and then the middle is
Starting point is 01:47:22 gonna be just like a ledge a fun box and it's gonna be cool and then we're gonna have in the back we're gonna set up a lounge it's gonna chill and you know have three foot quarters at the ends. And then the middle is going to be just like a ledge, a fun box. And it's going to be cool. And then we're going to have in the back, we're going to set up a lounge. It's going to chill and, you know, have drinks and, you know, the cooler and all that stuff. It's going to be great. I'm into that. Yeah. People are saying tour bus for here's your buddy says here's super chat for Tim Fowar's tour bus. Tim Fowar.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Mystery Machine 2020. Let's see. Max says, hey, Tim, you never gave your zero to 10 rating for the unrest. Also, what's the chance we see an assassination attempt in this dark winter? That's a good point. You didn't. I don't know about all that. The zero to 10, I think unrest, if I'll tell you this, if something happens and Trump does flip, like he wins, I don't know if it could be worse.
Starting point is 01:48:11 Like the amount of insanity. Who was that guy? I showed you that video, Ian. How a civil war could start. Was Awaken with AJ or something. Is that what it was? JP Sears. Is that what his name was?
Starting point is 01:48:21 I like that guy. Awaken with JP. I like that guy. I love him. He made a video and he was like, here's how a civil war could start. Have the media declare Joe Biden to be the winner and tell all of these 77 million people they've won and he's the president-elect. Then, because the constitutional process hasn't been concluded, have the president go through a legal process which ultimately results in him being declared the real winner. And then these people, after being told rioting is okay over and over again are now extremely angry don't understand what's happening
Starting point is 01:48:47 and then there you go yeah they're gonna be mad that you know the office of the president-elect isn't a real thing but it is and and this is so but the constitution says that cnn it is the one who declares it does it does when the founding fathers were drafting the constitution they said and cnn will be the arbiter of who is president-elect the officelares the president. It does. It does. When the founding fathers were drafting the Constitution, they said, and CNN will be the arbiter of who is president-elect. The office of the president-elect is just a thing. It's like people are acting like it doesn't exist. But you can clearly look at photos of Trump and Obama having it.
Starting point is 01:49:17 The issue is not that there's an office of the president-elect. The issue is that in these past elections, there's been a concession an obvious winner right now there's a there's a contested election it's not been resolved and joe biden goes i don't care about the actual constitutional process i'm the president-elect that's the issue what happened in uh 2000 in that intermediary period because if i recall correctly right didn't gore and i mean i think he actually called it for him no no so no one knew and there's a photoshop of the washington times going around it's not real oh yeah that's yeah yeah so everyone it's not as a photoshop you can even read the paper and it says like bush won but uh it's funny but uh bush didn't get access to his transition funds and you know
Starting point is 01:50:00 like biden is right now until like december 13th i think it was 35 days yeah so bush had to wait a month even though he was ultimately like he was the winner he he won by a few thousand the recount brought it down to a few hundred but he did win in florida and al gore jammed him up for a for a little bit over a month and he couldn't get whatever he needed but that's okay because there's a constitutional process to how these things function and how they work yeah hanging chats my question my question is has this ever happened before where the president doesn't been way worse doesn't concede there was uh 1867 when they tied and so they just created a panel a council to determine who the president would be oh it's like the weirdest non-constitutional thing they were worried it was because they were worried a civil war would happen again.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Because it was just after the first civil war. No, this was 1867. 1876. It was twice, I think. It's happened twice in the past, at least. There's been a bunch of elections that have been really weird. But I say bunches, like there's a handful of them. But anyway, they were worried there was going to be a civil war. So they're basically like,'re basically like okay democrats will give you a bunch of your racist stuff because you know the the south was the
Starting point is 01:51:08 democrats the slave owners and all that stuff yeah it's haze and tilden yeah yeah and then i guess it was the was the republican who got the presidency though right hayes correct yeah he's the guy that reinstated habeas corpus and then but so he he wins but the concession was okay we'll give the republican the presidency but we'll basically give all of the Southern Democrats a bunch of concessions and things like that. Yeah, it said that Democrats conceded the election to Hayes in return for an end to Reconstruction and the withdrawal of federal troops from the South. All right. Seems like everybody won. But isn't that crazy that in 1867, a Democrat, they had just lost the Civil War effectively, and they still won the election?
Starting point is 01:51:50 They still had voting rights. That's legit. They still had voting rights. Well, because they were part of the country. That's the United States, man. They were part of the union. So they had constitutional rights. We don't hold grudges.
Starting point is 01:52:00 But they were like actual, well, I guess you wouldn't call them neo-Nazis because they were before Nazis. What people don't understand about this is that there's a big difference between a civil war and what we had in the United States. The United States was states were seceding from the Union. The country was breaking apart. They didn't want control of D.C., although they did want to take it to end the war. They were like, leave us alone. We're doing our own thing.
Starting point is 01:52:21 And so it is a civil war. But typically, you know, the way our country is formed, you have these sovereign states with their own leadership deciding to leave. And it was very early on. I mean, we didn't even have, you know, all the states we have today back then, of course, like Hawaii, you know, and Alaska only in the past, you know, 70 or whatever years, 60. But in a bunch of other countries, you look at other countries where civil war breaks out and it's like random pockets of violence so whenever whenever you talk about the potential for civil war people imagine the mason dixon line and like like regulars squaring off against each other but but not not just that they think about the american civil war where they're like the states aren't going to secede and it's like that's an american phenomenon victors called it the civil war but the south called it the War of Northern Aggression.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Right. Oh. Because the North effectively, you know, invaded the South. Came at them, yeah. Yeah. You know, it's a complicated historical issue. It is. Dealing with questions of legality, states' rights, but ultimately it ended slavery, made the United States stronger, and the South was in the wrong.
Starting point is 01:53:24 It's just, you know, there you go. But shout out to, what's his name? General Robert E. Lee, doing what he believed. Dude, you're going to get canceled for that. Really? Yeah, didn't they pull down his statue? Oh, yeah, of course. I've learned that he was a really good person,
Starting point is 01:53:42 but just had strange beliefs. All of these people back then were racists, like really, really racist people. I thought he was just fighting for his home state. He was just like a – Virginian. His home, yeah. Everybody – look, history is written by the victors. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:53:59 And we've come out on the other side of the Civil War, and we ended – like Abraham Lincoln ended slavery. That was the Republicans. The Democrats was the South. And I think it's really funny like when we look at modern politics, when the Democrats are like bragging about how they're better or they're right or they're diverse and it's like, yeah, we get it. You guys were the party of all of these really awful racist things and you've now trying to do the opposite.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Good for you. It's like – what do we say to that? Congratulations, I guess? Like, your party is literally the historical party from the Civil War that owned the slaves. The Republicans are the ones who ended it. So you can criticize Republicans all day and night, sure, but it's like, you know,
Starting point is 01:54:37 let he who is without sin cast that first stone, you know what I'm saying? Anyway, we just had a bunch of people join at the same time. Thanks for joining. That's great. Oh, wow. Hi, everyone. Hey. Tom just had a bunch of people join at the same time. Thanks for joining. That's great. Oh, wow. Hi, everyone. Hey. Tom's Pant says, Tim, let me come and skate video with my FPV drone rig.
Starting point is 01:54:52 I can do HD indoor and outdoor. Yeah, that'd be cool. Watch out for those EMP guys. We got to get set up for all the skateboard stuff. We're not quite there. And music. And you know what we're going to do? We're probably going to do events once we get to that point. Yeah, we've got the separate entrance to the skate park very set up well we're gonna have an external skate park and and and like
Starting point is 01:55:09 space and like band space and all that stuff so that's so awesome yep yeah we had a big we had a we had a i shouldn't say big but we had we had an event for the for the election you know you guys were here we had a bunch of people here and we did the show but we're planning on doing something like that once a month but we'll see what happens because the dark winter is coming. Can I bring rollerblades too? Is that accepted? Like inlines, brah? Yeah, I'm down.
Starting point is 01:55:29 Get some grinds going? You can bring inlines. Do some misty flips? But you know what the thing is? I got no beef. Do a backflip. That's cool. I can't do it.
Starting point is 01:55:39 That'll look cool. I gave up on the backflips when I rotated too quickly and domed myself. And I really haven't been the same since. That explains it. It does. It explains a lot. Damn. See, now my mom tells me I have to wear a helmet every time I leave the house. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Alfonso Antivero says, Trump was lied about troops on the Middle East. Trump was lied to about, yep, that's crazy. Kaper2x says, Pennsylvania, dude, we were expecting a meteorite storm tonight. To be a real UAP, it must slow down and change directions and radical maneuvers. Cool. A real meteor storm? It's Friday the 13th. Oh, wild it is.
Starting point is 01:56:17 Yeah. Friday, guys. Two more hours. Yeah. Trump gave a boring speech about Operation Warp Speed. You know, we lost the Jones video. That's kind of bad luck. There it is.
Starting point is 01:56:25 That was the Friday. That was the bad luck. Yeah. Well, there you go. Oh, well. I'm not that superstitious. Trump's hair was white. Trump's hair was white.
Starting point is 01:56:37 Sheldon France says, It's 50 bucks for Tim to impersonate Alex Jones after Lydia says, Sure. Why? What did Alex Jones do? Is that when he yelled when michael malice told him to be quiet he went oh yeah didn't work he did it twice oh he just screamed it in the mic yeah oh my god be quiet the aim bot says can you get the starlink
Starting point is 01:57:00 beta in your area for failover internet the problem is right now the starlink beta is actually they send it to you, you plug it in, you press a button, it sends data back and forth, you put it back in the box and send it to them. It's not like a functioning, you know. That'd be great though. So Elon, if you're watching, please. I would love
Starting point is 01:57:18 to have Starlink for the time being. But we're getting Fios, we're getting Gigabit. So it's being installed soon and here's hoping. The good news is we've been streaming on the satellite the whole time. And it's been pretty good. That's so awesome. It's like more stable than the landline. Oh, epic.
Starting point is 01:57:33 Yeah, I was testing the speed of the landline throughout the show. And it hasn't been working. Yeah, it doesn't work at all. No upload speed. It's Russian interference. Russians. It could just be that we're in the mountains in the middle of nowhere. And internet doesn't work out here
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