Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #170 - AZ Governor WILL NOT Certify Election Until Trump's Lawsuits Settled, w/ GPrime85

Episode Date: November 20, 2020

Tim, Ian, Lydia, and guest George Alexopoulous (@gprime85 on Twitter) discuss recent actions in Arizona, Georgia, and other voting shenanigans, along with the possibility of civil war and whether leftism is like a religion.  Host socials:  Tim: @Timcast Ian: @IanCrossland Lydia: @SourPatchLyds Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The governor of Arizona says that he is not going to accept the results of the elect or he won't accept election results until all lawsuits are settled. I wanted to make sure I get that correct because precise language is important right now. And if that means that the lawsuits are ongoing and they don't certify by, I guess, the soft deadline federally, which is like December 8th, then Arizona has no electoral votes. We've already seen two of the canvas board members, Republicans. They initially rejected certification of Wayne County in Michigan, calling the whole state into question. Then they agreed to certify if they got an audit,

then they rescinded saying that they were being threatened and they were lied to. Now the Democrats are saying you can't rescind your vote, but regardless, this puts two states in question. If the governor of Arizona won't accept the election results, I don't know what's going to happen. But questions arise, in which case, potentially, they don't certify. That means Trump would just need one state like Pennsylvania, and then it goes to House delegations and Trump gets reelected. I know the left like to say it's silly, it's impossible, never happened. But stranger things have happened. Donald Trump won in 2016, for instance, and he might win again. And I think it's ridiculous. These people are underestimating him. So, you know, we're going to start with this because this is this is like the big story.

You know, Giuliani came out today in his press conference in Nepal. They talked a bit about this and the media keeps lying, saying there's no evidence. We now have legitimate hard data and sworn statements of widespread voter irregularity, period. They can't say it anymore. The media can't lie. We've got this. It's from Matt Brenner and the Voter Integrity Fund, where they've actually found widespread irregularities in returned ballots. It's a fact. So I'm not saying fraud because we don't know how this happened, but But it seems like Republicans when they send their ballots back in through the mail, they just kind of disappeared. So we'll talk about all this stuff. We have a very special guest today. Well, it's always a special guest. We're joined by George Alexopoulos.

Are you going to do the plant? Oh, no. I switched to you. My name is Magnetic Plant. Oh, I'm sorry. Magnetic Plant. That is George Alexopoulos over there. Hold on. This is George. This is George Alexopoulos over there. Hold on. This is George. This is George.

It's really good to meet you guys. It's really hard to pick up a pen and draw, but I try my best, you guys. So for those. Yes, this is the dude who drew these terrifying images like Joe Biden eating a young girl. Hey, look at that. Behind Ian. Yeah. And then Joe Rogan over here. Joe Rogan's face.

But you have a crazy story about how they tried to destroy your life because you supported trump which i thought was that's a hell of a way to jump in yeah we'll we'll we'll start with we'll talk about the breaking news but i think that's why yeah so long story short oh man how can i destroy your life yeah uh so i've been on i've been drawing web comics for a very long time online uh website my own personal website. I've posted on Reddit, Twitter, whatever. Friends posting it on their websites.

Occasionally, like, I would have something go viral. Like, I had a really famous Dark Souls comic where, I don't know if you play games at all. Yeah, yeah, of course. It was called Action Games vs. Dark Souls. And two parents are, like, feeding their feeding their little kid oh the kid doesn't want to eat what should we spoon feed him and the kid's like oh i demand food anyway so they're spoon feeding their kid that's most action games who cares yeah and then dark souls is like a knight who walks up to a kid and says oh you want to eat and the kid's like yeah and the knight puts a

helmet and a huge broadsword in his hands and says well come get it yeah and the joke was that dark souls is hard so we'll i'm sorry oh no no yeah just just a quick introduction to you know who you are yeah and then um but i want to save the bigger story about how they tried to destroy you because they save it yeah yeah we'll we'll start with this election stuff just so that people are coming in but then but then we'll we'll jump in because it's gotcha i was gonna say like we'll get to it but long story short they loved your comics then someone found you followed ben shapiro and that was it and it was like among others i'm sure right yeah so they they scrutinized my twitter at the time i had like 200 people yeah so from reddit it's crazy i

was the number one highest voted comic on reddit of all time uh this was in december 2018 they moved on to twitter to find out who i was, like, who's this guy that we just elevated to be our quote, King, whatever. And the joke, I'll tell you about the joke later, I guess. But yeah, we'll get into it. So it's crazy. But Ian's sitting here. Hi, everyone.

Thank you, Tim. And Lydia's sitting here. I'm sitting here in the corner. And we have a new camera for our new co-host on the show. It is magnetic levitating spinning plant. Magnetic levitating spinning plant. is magnetic levitating spinning plant magnetic levitating spinning plant magnetic levitating spinning spinning plant thank you for joining the show the new host the new co-host yeah we just just when we get an awkward silence we'll just show that it'll be like elevator music i wonder though because we got this thing i'm like

does the constant spinning affect the plant and the magnetism because this thing's been spinning non-stop for several days or probably longer than that. And I wonder if it makes the plant unhappy. I guess we'll see. I have the same feelings. Alex Jones said it liked it. And I tend to believe Alex Jones. It's like, whee!

Anyway, smash the like button, subscribe. We do the show Monday through Friday live at 8 p.m. But let's talk about this very, very serious development. Yeah. I got to be honest. So first of all, here's the story from az family governor ducy says he won't accept election results until all lawsuits are settled they say so uh during a press conference was the first time we heard from uh governor doug ducy since the election several reporters asked him about the debunked conspiracy theories in arizona like sharpie gate and if he accepts the election

results in arizona ducy made it pretty clear he will not accept the presidential race election results until after all of the court filings are resolved and until every vote is counted. On the one hand, the governor said we can trust our elections here in Arizona. But minutes later, he said there are questions and those questions should be answered. These are legal claims that are being challenged in court. Once those are adjudicated and the process plays out, I will accept the results of the election.

Ducey would not acknowledge President-elect Joe Biden as the winner in Arizona, but rather is holding out after several lawsuits were filed by the Trump campaign and Arizona GOP, some which have already been dropped.

Those challenges will play out in court, and then I will respect the results of the election. But at the same time, the governor spoke. Party chairs were inside the Maricopa County Election Center certifying the results of the election. But at the same time, the governor spoke. Party chairs were inside the Maricopa County Election Center, certifying the accuracy of the election equipment, which matched up 100 percent for the third audit. But Arizona Republican Party Chair Kelly Ward came outside to hold her own press conference

calling for a full hand audit of the election. Who has access to the USB or the drives that are used in the machines? Who programmed the machines? All of these are very important as to what's going on in the electoral process. We need to know these answers, Ward said. Maricopa County Democratic Chair Stephen Slugocki said Ward is putting on a show and is frustrated anybody is still trying to prove any issues with the election process. He said, or here's a quote.

I'm assuming it's from him. Here I am at the elections department right now testing the machines, testing the equipment. They matched up exactly 100%. And then literally Kelly Ward goes from this room and then goes outside and trashes the process that we just certified as being accurate. We have verified the vote. We have verified the machines. There was no fraud here, no discrepancies. I'm going to stop right there and just say, in Georgia, there's several things that kind of were crazy. Three counties where they uncovered votes that were not tabulated. More importantly, several sworn affidavits from both Republican and Democrat alike where they said some of these ballots were pristine, no creases. And it looked like the vote for Joe Biden was like machine printed, like a perfect just stamp right into the, you know, dot for Joe Biden. So it's weird when the Democrat, when the Republicans are saying we want to hand audit of these votes, because you would see then if you're looking through the votes, you're

like, that's printed on a printer. You would notice right away. So for them to be like, no, no, don't worry. The machines say they're good. We're done. To me, it's kind of strange. Can't they do tests to find out if it was for instance ink from a printer or toner from a laser printer let's say you'd have

to do a hand audit yeah i guess but not like the democrats are resisting this every step of the way yeah of course you'd think they'd be like okay fine if we do this will you accept the results but instead they're like no we don't have to investigate so this was really interesting to me this actually a question that i asked on twitter because you remember that gop guy who won like they did a recount or something they come up yes yes extra ballots why wouldn't democrats then want recounts of all of this that's why because the race flipped for the republican so yeah do you hear about what happened with this guy in michigan he was No, this was like last week or whatever. This guy's a Republican, and they announced he lost or whatever.

The vote came in, and he said, I wasn't going to call for a recount or anything, and I just accepted the results. And then he got a phone call saying, oops, there was a glitch. You actually won. And the Republican actually ended up winning. And so this led to more scrutiny. And then we saw a Republican noticed that 6000 of Trump's votes were registered for Biden and then said it's a computer glitch. They said, no, no, no, no. It's human error.

It's human error. So we have we have all of this widespread voter irregularity stuff going on. And it's definitive at this point. The media is going to say no evidence of widespread voter fraud. It's like a very, very specific thing and hard to prove widespread and fraud. Proving fraud is hard. We can prove that people's votes aren't being counted, that they're finding a bunch of, you know, missing ballots, and that it's widespread. I think we've done that at this point. I would think that the Americans would want to verify the American election at this point,

regardless of political party. Are you saying the Democrats aren't Americans? I'm wondering if they have America's best best interests in mind if they want to you know steamroll an election that's a great question well there was a meme going around of uh they were saying like hey guys trump is trying to steal the election quick we have to do hand recounts yeah frame it as we've got to stop trump right and i think if think if people were led to believe that that's the only way to verify that Trump lost... They'd go for it. We should...

I think we should... That is the only way for them to verify Trump lost. And I wonder why then they're saying no to it. Just accept the results as they are. Because they believe they already won. So let Trump run the clock. Here's the thing. Trump is potentially going to win. Now you have Arizona... So I don't know to what extent the governor can Here's the thing. Trump is potentially going to win.

Now you have Arizona. So I don't know to what extent the governor can like block the electoral certification. I have no idea. Maybe he can't because the state legislators that decide ultimately where the electors go. But this does throw AZ into some kind of question. May not actually be that impactful. But we also have Michigan where these two, you know, these two county canvasser or these two board canvassers said we rescind our votes. We don't want to certify.

So if Trump does get close to winning through a contingent election right now is the only opportunity for Democrats to prove Trump lost by getting a full hand recount in all of these swing states. And they're resisting it so if i was on their side and i thought trump was satan i suppose i would do the same thing i mean they are sure that he is the next hitler right they have to stop him by any means necessary and this is probably the most humane way they can do it and we are sure that joe biden is some kind of lurking monster in the shadows who eats children i think he's being taken advantage of. My comics – yeah, I think my comics are one thing. But me as a person, I just think he had ambitions since he was younger and his party is pushing him.

And he probably – he's kind of – it's like a car that's – I don't mean to sound cruel. It's kind of – he's just kind of rolling down the hill with the momentum but if he's a car in neutral i hate to say it that way but it's true i i feel like if you just let him say what he was going to say without coaching without you know whatever uppers he was on during the debates for instance i don't feel like he would nearly he wouldn't have nearly as much momentum as if people were kind of propping him up and pushing him be shrew in and nana shaba to pressure yes that's the famous quote yes that and vatican care the magic words he seemed surprised when he won the um primary you got a little while he was in the uh i like that uh that my favorite comic from you probably is i have it hanging in my office it's the one

where uh joe biden said 200 million people are going to die. Yeah. The electricity. Yeah. So Joe Biden literally said it is estimated by the time I finish this talk, 200 million people will die. Poor guy. And then the comic you made is and then it shows his like eyes glowing and he's like, and that time is now.

And then he fires lightning bolts and the crowd is getting like vaporized. I love it. It's the best. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. It's my favorite, too. You know, it's you have to wonder about uh joe biden's like accidental statements when he says like we made the largest voter most inclusive

voter fraud organization in history my goodness and then but then when he also so if people think that he's being if people think that he really meant it and it was like a freudian slip or whatever or like he's losing his filter yeah okay so people think that right there are people who think he accidentally admitted it because in his old age right yeah does that mean when he said by the time i finished this talk 200 million people will die he really met it and he slipped he slipped up yeah like joe biden is planning on just like foreshadowing some mass genocide losing his mind that's he's been told about the great reset yes yeah he was foreshadowing it they're like all these people are going to die in the pandemic and then he just said it and they're like oh he just said it you know you know what it really is i'm sure uh there's like this grand global conspiracy and they're telling joe biden

all of their plans and using him as they're like you know he won't remember just telling no no no no he says it he just blurts it out and then behind the scenes they're all laughing like you know george soros and hillary clinton they're like high-fiving and they're like he just said it and people just let him say it they're all laughing like you know george soros and hillary clinton they're like high-fiving and they're like he just said it and people just let him say it they're all laughing he just admitted to voter fraud nobody cares yeah that's how that's how sure of themselves they're and uh-oh what's betsy doing oh come on that is so funny go on betsy it's it's kind of like it's like the comic that george drew where they're where george uh sorry where joe is eating that little girl and everyone is just cheering like the emperor really has no clothes where they're where George sorry where Joe is eating that little girl and everyone is just cheering like

yeah we're really has no clothes and they're just cheering away like what's going on so so this uh this picture that's behind it's behind George right now I don't think we can see yeah I don't think we can see it it's a woman is handing a little girl to Joe Biden while everyone's cheering and then Joe

Biden's mouth opens up like a giant monster about to eat the little girl who's freaking out but there's everyone giving thumbs up and cheering yeah and then after he eats it he looks at the crowd he's like he's he gives a thumbs up it actually is a very very powerful political statement because when when joe biden said that you know it's it he believes that uh what do you say batacath cares a human right they cheer they're like yeah when he says true not a shot but a pressure they cheer and i'm like what are they cheering for it's like those uh what is this what is this applause sign going on yes we don't know what he's saying just applaud but i don't even the scary thing is there's

no applause sign they're just mindless npcs going yay joe biden's like a freaking bitch and blah blah and they're like yes that's what i wanted this whole time they're like, yes, that's what I wanted this whole time. They're like pounding on the table. Donald Trump comes out and he's like, I'm going to make more jabs, lower unemployment, secure our borders. Joe Biden, turn it on a shot of pressure. That's exactly what I was expecting, wanting to hear. That's what I will vote for that. It's kind of like a weird gladiator match where they just want to cheer for their champion to beat the other guy. That's all it is. It's political gladi gladiators unfortunately they're like 70 years old i think our leaders

should be chosen by blood sports is what i'm trying to say so maybe like a hereditary uh patriarchal uh trial uh what is it called um patriarchal hereditary combat trial by combat no not trial choose but like like yeah no like you know it was really funny that black panther was considered this very progressive you know social justice movie but it's literally about a king who's chosen based on patriarchal heredity who has to fight another man and women aren't allowed to even try i mean it's an interesting if we want to go into the subconscious of what they're really trying to say with these stories if that's even possible with corporate storytelling.

It's a weird to unpack that as what are they trying to say subconsciously? What do they even not know? They're racist. They don't know what they're even saying, maybe. They're not saying anything. You know, it's like the funny thing about Black Panther was that the movie was basically, what did

Sargon, I think Sargon said this. It was Adolf Hitler versus Richard Spencer because like – T'Challa, was that his name? He's all like, it's our country, our borders. We can't let anybody in. He even says in the movie like if they come in here, they'll bring their problems with them. And so it was very much – it was like ethno-nationalist country hoarding its wealth. But then the bad guy was like, we should give weapons to everyone of our race and take over the world. So it's like, who is the good guy in that movie?

I guess at the end, T'Challa goes to one of the wealthiest nations in the world and goes to one of the richest cities in California and gives people stuff. I just thought that was really hilarious. They decided to open up their country to help people. So he goes to – what did he go to? Oakland. It's like, I get Oakland's got problems, like it's still the bay area you know what i mean like it's still pretty wealthy anyway we were talking about voting and i was going to talk about this evidence and then we got sidetracked yeah can i interject something here that just

came up on my phone oh so it looks like georgia's uh finished their hand audit and they have confirmed it for biden and the other thing i have on my phone is that the ap has declared joe biden the winner in georgia after the state election office said that the hand tally about well you know maybe it's all over and donald trump's gonna not be president i don't know that's what i thought yeah 2016 as of 2016 yeah and then he was president yeah and now i don't know i kind of feel like we're going to have two presidents. You know what, though? I don't. I wonder if you get the same feeling.

Do you think Trump voters would be as angry as the left if they lost? No. I feel like. And there's been surveys about that. Because we're just like, oh, well, that sucks. Yeah. Most people. But I also think that the diehard Trump supporters, especially the people over at, like, say, like

the Donald Wynnynn are much more. I don't the right word is fervent. Yeah, they're like Joe Biden is going to destroy this country. He's going to he's going to enforce the lockdowns. Fauci is saying normalcy won't return for a year. And what's happening is all the big box stores and the big corporations are getting all this money. Their stock value is skyrocketing and small mom and pop shops are being destroyed. And Joe Biden says, you know, I'll lock down if they say to.

And then Osterholm, who's the guy who says to that, the advisor to Biden says, oh, we're going to lock the whole country down. And then Fauci goes, no, no, no, no, no. We're not going to lock the whole country down, but there will be lockdowns and we won't return to normal until quarter, quarter two or quarter three. That's going to wipe out small business. Yeah. It's going to destroy the economy of this country and leave us very, very worse off, to put it mildly.

It's funny. And Trump won't do that. Trump would do the opposite. Yeah. I mean, none of us can know the the future but it's interesting to think like all right so even in my area where there's a lot of chain businesses they're closing most of their stores too yeah they just i don't know money's not coming in people don't want to work there anymore um who knows what kind of is everything going to be delivery nowadays like amazon yeah they

buy your amazon i guess sure and you know god knows i've been using them too but like it's i i need to go outside for my own health i go shopping just to go out shopping i put on stupid mask so you're trying to kill grandma is what you're saying maybe it's it's too bad that they're so humans are not built for being in pods and uh i feel like uh depending on how conspiratorial i want to be i can feel alex jones's energy in the seat oh yeah maybe this is like a test and they're trying to see how far you can push humans and society and like see can you keep them in their houses and see what happens? I see the tinfoil right there. Yeah, you should do that.

But we know they're talking about the Great Reset. We know that they've been advocating for it all year or longer than this. The book, I think, was written in 1996 by Klaus Schwab. And it was like earlier this year, they were like, we need a Great Reset. Now they're basically saying we got to lock everything down, even though it's not proven to do anything at all. Like, we locked down. Nothing happened. Everything got worse.

Right. OK, so lockdowns clearly don't make sense. And it seems like it just makes it just fits with the grace. Great reset plans. It sounds like they've said COVID-19 is their opportunity to do this. They're telling us literally what they're doing. COVID-19 popped up and they said all right let's do it let's uh let's let's use this as a pretext for a lockdown to destroy wealth and ownership because one of the goals of the great reset is that people won't own anything what's gonna end up happening is this is gonna be like

a 45 year old dude who owned his own you know hardware shop he goes out of business completely now he owns nothing then they're gonna make you dependent upon the government with these stimulus packages and then all that money is going to go to Amazon and we're going to have like three major corporations that supplies with our goods. Yeah. Well, whether or not that was intentional, that certainly seems to be what's going to happen if we keep going down this track. Some people want to stop it. We maybe, you know, some people who have read a few books say, hey, maybe we shouldn't go down this direction. This is where it could go.

Maybe we should kind of slow the train down if we can. Maybe, I don't know, hedge our bets. That's why I like the idea of states all having their own rules. We shouldn't do this whole federal. I don't like Joe Biden's plan of across the whole country, we all have to wear masks. Every state, every even county has different rules depending on density of population density and well there lies the big problem for a great reset republicans saying no we won't lock down and democrats saying yes there's no uniformity how can you have a great reset when there's a

constitution and states getting involved you can't yeah like a mediocre reset yeah not actually great the so-so reset reset yeah what's yeah i'm a fan of states rights i don't like the idea of uh the federal government swinging it's uh uh what's the word i'm like mandatory mandate so here's here's a giant mandatory mandate here's my current thought process all right here you go uh i think it was just after the election i said like that night media is going to call it for biden trump is going to overturn the courts then they're going to say trump stole the election it's like a very simple prediction that just fits with like a lot of what's going on and i don't think it was that spectacular but all these lefties are

like dude tim so dumb he thinks trump's gonna win and i'm like i think yeah absolutely i think it's possible and there's a vox and atlantic and nbc have all written about trump's you know path now they're starting to get scared and the propaganda is getting crazy like reuters is like trump's latest scheme to steal the win from joe biden and i'm like but joe biden didn't win like are we we're not a popular vote country so like this idea that if the electoral vote votes for trump trump didn't win it's like no he literally did that's how the Constitution works. And if he finds a legal path to do it. But now they're writing stuff like crazy.

So here's what I'm worried about right now. They already called it for Joe Biden like crazy. Twitter's putting labels everywhere. Joe Biden is the president-elect. He's not, literally not, until he's certified, until the electoral votes are cast. Usually calling someone president-elect is just like,

it's, it's, it's a, like a placeholder, an honorary title or something. No, it's like a tradition. We just do it

because the other person conceded. And so we're like, sure, fine, it's you. We get it. Give them some briefings,

you know, hook them up. But that's not the constitutional process. The constitutional process is we, on the 14th, they'll make their vote.

So for Biden and the media to be like claiming this over and over again and refusing to back down is quite literally them refusing to accept the process for the election. It's a conspiracy. All those people. No, it could be a standalone complex. But they're all conspiring to make him the president-elect. To make him seem like the president-elect. It could be a standalone complex.

But it's a bunch of people coming together. Who said they came together? Well, they're all saying the same thing. standalone complex right do you really what's the difference a standalone complex is when people do something uh oh i'll do this a similar thing but they're not like behind the scenes being like hey let's do this together so they're all saying joe biden won because they want joe biden to win and it makes it look like a concerted effort when it's just a bunch of people doing the same thing at the same time. So that's that's more likely. But regardless, what do you think is going to happen when you have that for weeks? Joe Biden won. Joe Biden won. AP says he won. AP says he won. And Trump's like, we're going to court. The governor of Arizona is like he's

we're not going to accept this until we get the legal resolution that's in the Constitution. Trump is going through this in the constitutional process. Whether he wins or not is not the point. The media is lying, refusing to accept the process of our government. By coming out and saying Joe Biden is the president-elect, they are literally undermining the Constitution and our legal process. That's crazy. And they keep pumping out more and more propaganda. So I think what scares me right now, I don't know what the probability this happens.

Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't. Maybe it's a lottery tickets chance maybe it's lightning striking three times while a shark jumps in the air maybe donald trump overturns a few states they get frozen joe biden doesn't have 270 electoral votes and then the electoral college uh can't deliver so it goes to house delegation The delegations are Republican for the most part. They're majority Republican, so they vote for Trump. Then Trump comes out and says, I've won. Then all these Democrats say, no, you didn't.

Joe Biden did. He says, look at the court. Look at the Electoral College. Look at the delegations. Look at the Supreme Court. Then they're going to say, Trump is illegitimate. He didn't win, and we know it. And Trump's going to say, I am legitimate.

I won, and everyone knows it. And then the Trump supporters are going to say, Trump is right right and the anti-trump people are gonna say trump is stealing the election and then what do you think happens well i don't even think they need to do that i think they people have been winding themselves up for long enough already that if you were to tell biden supporters that he didn't actually win or antifa they would throw a fit they would freak out but i think i think in order for there to actually. So I'm not saying it's going to happen, but the worst case scenario would be. And it's been a lot of people were saying we're going to get the scenario where both declare they won and we're already there now.

Trump is saying I won the election. We'll prove it. But we're not. It's not official for either. So so Biden can say I'm the president elect and people roll their eyes. Trump can say I've won in the left laughs. But what happens when Trump is certified, but the media declares Biden and all these people don't know? I was talking to a friend earlier and I said, it looks like Trump's plans are working

to some degree like this, this challenge in Michigan that might block up the certification. I'm not saying he's going to win. And she said, what is this? I'm not seeing any of this. I'm not seeing any of this news. So you get people who can't see any of this happening because all they get fed is CNN and CNN says it's over. So they believe it. You're going to end up with Trump's going to be like, I won. And they're going to be like, but he didn't win.

The news said it was Biden. And they're not going to actually look at the electoral college results. They're not going to actually look at the Supreme Court. They're going to have no idea because CNN is going to be like, he didn't win. Nope, he's lying. It seems really irresponsible for Trump and Biden both to be saying that they won when the constitutionally neither of them. Yes. Are they both?

Are they idiots? Are they both stupid? Well, Biden, I think Trump is doing it strategically. But it's a lie. He's the president. He's lying. I think Trump is doing it because Biden declared himself the victor, so Trump responded. He lied. I'm going to lie, too.

It's just such a terrible thing for someone to do. They declared Joe Biden the winner. Then Joe Biden said he won, and so Trump had to push back. But why didn't he just say he didn't win where it's under Constitutional Review? Am I crazy, though? Because

Trump is president until january 20th period not according to facebook sorry you're wrong according to facebook facebook says you're wrong all right that's fine then he is president but he didn't win the election yet his character is such is that he doesn't like being undermined so if someone raises the volume to 10 he has to raise it to 11 and there is a certain point where once you're past 11 you can't shout it's like an internet fighting match if someone's like yo fight me bro and the other guy's like hey man i'm gonna fight you all right where are you living where's your house let's fight you can only fight so hard online until it comes to fisticuffs so a guy shows up at your house right so in a way what

we're seeing between the two president uh candidates is an online shouting match of come at me, bro. Yeah. And it's not going to end in a fistfight with them, but it's going to be their supporters having fistfights, as we saw on the street. The institutional powers have declared Joe Biden the winner. That's so irresponsible. I don't want to reuse that word. This is crazy. Jake Tapper responded to Trump. Trump said something like, you know, we're suing or whatever. Jake Tapper said Donald Trump's refusal to accept the loss, you know, blah, blah. And I'm just like, for Jake Tapper, this high-profile personality on CNN, to completely disregard the Constitution is just like one of the most dangerous things a media personality can do.

Either the guy is really, really dumb or he's it's malicious so is jake tapper trying to purposefully undermine the constitution and our system of governance that the idea that we have an election and then that night we go we know who won is just a tradition it's getting to the point where i don't care if he knows he's undermining the Constitution or not. He is. He's undermining the Constitution. Right. At some point in our history, probably with the invention of TV or maybe even radio, we stopped saying the official results will be announced on the 14th. And we started saying, this is it.

We know who won. And so and so conceded. Well, that's fine. And I got no problem with that. But Donald Trump didn't concede. So the race isn't over. We don't know who's fine. And I got no problem with that. But Donald Trump didn't concede. So the race isn't over. We don't know who's won. We don't know which slate of electors will be going to D.C. for their, you know, formal

election. It's not happened yet. So for the media to be saying all this stuff is completely spitting on the Constitution and saying we don't care about the process. It's a fact that Trump is supposed to be filing legal claims up until like the 8th of December. It's in the Constitution for this reason. These are safeguards to prevent, you know, fraud or impropriety or whatever. So Trump's allowed to do it.

And the media doesn't like it. They don't like the fact that he has the right to challenge it. They're flexing. They want to see how far their influence can. I mean, even back when Obama, they had no reason to complain during the Obama years. During Bush, I remember I was – Oh, he was a blown-up kid. So they were happy, you know?

Well, I mean – all right. So when we were – we're about the same age, I think. When we were in high school, they were just making fun of Bush all the time. Then 9-11 happened and they started the wars and all that stuff and they kept criticizing Bush, criticizing Bush, calling him names, making fun of him. Fine. They were swinging their influence around just to say like, hey, look, we're controlling the, we're the mediators between the people and the governing bodies, whatever. So they'll believe whatever we say, we, whatever we tell them to believe. A journalist, let's say, is in a position where i'll listen to the journalist more than i'll

listen to a politician and trump is the first time where the people are listening to the politicians so closely at least for in our generation they're listening they're going directly to the source there's no more middleman so the middleman cnn and all those people are feeling themselves lose power so they have to make it seem like this is an emergency guys my connection to you is like my psychic link to you is being weakened you need my words of wisdom in your ear don't listen to that man who you have to feel it's like that time when the um when hillary's emails linked uh leaked and then i i can't remember who was it tapper or was it judo you can't read them yeah it's illegal it's illegal only we can read them you have to it's like bro it's like in the old church like way in the old days the priests would be like you can't read the bible yourself i have to interpret it for you

i'll tell you what the bible says so maybe he's fudging what the bible really says but then when the printing press was invented and now the commoners can read the bible it's like wait this is what the bible says bro you gotta give you how much money right that really is like the printing press all over again right and of course the the the priest equivalents of today let's say cnn are now realizing oh shoot uh the common person can go directly to the source of power without me filtering the words filtering filtering what I want reality to be. They feel themselves losing power. And the only way to get people's attention, again, is to create a crisis. You have to listen to what I have to say.

It's so important. Don't listen to the other guy. Well, to quote Chancellor Sutler, I want them to know why they need us. Yeah. Who's he? From V for Vendetta. to quote chancellor sutler i want them to know why they need us yeah who's he from v for vendetta he's like i want it on the interlink every story whatever you know you have to it's like i get up in the morning what should i do today what should i be worried about i should tune into cnn and make sure it's safe to go outside even even me coming here i going to say specifics, but it's like, I didn't even know what route to take.

Because is this place COVID infested? Where's the safe direction to go? Did you ask CNN? Did you turn on CNN and say, oh, Anderson, please? I punched it into the intertron. Yes. And it's like. Did you find the answer?

I did. Because this is such a remote location. Actually, a spirit guide showed me on an eagle. I did because this is such a remote location. Actually, a spirit guide showed me on an eagle. I followed the face and the moon appeared and looked down and said, turn left. Is Google Maps going to start putting COVID friendly zones on your... They do. They already do.

Every time I go to the doctor, they're like, COVID-19 alert. COVID-19 alert. You have to have a mask. Is it like some of the roads are green when there's COVID in that area? No, it's not quite like that this area has the miasma don't go yeah yeah exactly do you guys see the uh ticket master is saying that they're going to put your vaccination status in the ticket or whatever oh geez goodbye ticket master no no all right the nosebleed section will be the uh the dirty people who didn't take it exactly they're not gonna let you in no i think

what's gonna end up happening is you know they made fun of anti-vaxxers for a long time now they're saying anti-maskers because it's meant to be like you know uh uh like similar and so right now they're saying dude just wear the mask man it's not a big deal and even i'm saying it like i got no problem look i go to the store i'll wear a mask it's whatever then they're gonna start saying dude just get the vax man it's no big deal and so they're going to start saying, dude, just get the vax, man. It's no big deal. And so they're going to make everyone get the vaccine. I mean, in some places they've already done it.

So I'm not trying to be conspiratorial like, oh, the mandatory vaccination is coming. There have been, I think in Australia you can't travel outside of the country unless you've been vaccinated. Something like that. In Denmark, they're protesting a law right now. They've been protesting for like 10 or 11 days a law that includes a provision for mandatory vaccination and forced physical examinations. So probably a good thing to protest because that's freaky. But I think it'll come here. I do.

What if – doesn't it mutate every year like the flu, let's say? So every year you have to get a new vaccination? I guess. Is that the plan? I don't know. They don't have a plan. I don't know anything about this. They have a great reset plan.

That's true. Take away all your stuff. I mean, maybe a state will be like, you can't come in if you didn't get the vaccine. But that'd be like the governor made that decision. And then the people would riot on the governor. I think we're going to see riots again. I think the riots we saw this year in June were a product, a bit bit of being locked up for so long dude there's so much data of recovery rates for covid that people would go insane if they tried to do some forced stupid look at like

we were just talking about people cheering for trunan on a shot of pressure the mindless that maybe maybe that was part what if trunan on a shot of pressure was actually in joe biden's like uh teleprompter and it was them being like okay if they cheer for this we can do anything and so biden is like you know what people don't realize is biden's actually sharp as a tack right he was actually able to read true to not shop at a pressure on the teleprompter as it moved up give me something crazy that took me a long time to transcribe to get it just right true to not a shop at a pressure and so for him to be able to read it off real quick what was it again true international cooperation cooperation i don't know if that i'm just we have

no idea true international cooperation under pressure and what's batacath care health care what was he talking about obamacare batacat i don't know dude but they cheered for it okay that's the point if you've got 77 million people or whatever in this country and a large portion are such zealots that they'll cheer when Joe Biden says garbled nonsense. I just want someone to be Trump. They're going to be like, drink this substance from under my basement stairs and you can come into my restaurant. The Biden zealots aren't necessarily the COVID zealots. They are. Well, not necessarily.

There might be some overlap. Heavy overlap. necessarily the covid zealots they are well not necessarily heavily there might be some overlap yeah heavy overlap so we were talking to michael malice on the show and it was on the show we mentioned what is it how do you determine left or right yeah yeah no i think it was before the show was it yeah i think so oh okay so but is it like it was on the show yeah yeah it was okay okay he said i made a speech yeah that's right right you started yeah he said uh how do you figure out if someone's on the left or right you ask them do you think some people are better than others? And the right will say yes. And the left will give you a speech. I was like, define better.

Yeah. Yeah. I think. I think. That's what I said too. Yeah. There's an easier way to do it. It's to ask someone, are they scared of COVID?

Mm-hmm. And for the most part, the right's going to be like, no, you know, I get it. A lot of people will be like, a lot of the diehard guys are going to be like, no, you know, I get it. You know, a lot of people will be like a lot of like the, you know, the diehard guys are going to be like, no way, man. I don't have to wear a mask. I can do whatever I want. Then you're going to get the more moderate people who are going to say, look, I get it. It's like it's got lingering health effects.

It's serious. I'll wear my mask, but I'm not going to go cry. I'm going to carry on with my life. The left, you look at the Gallup polls from this. It's like something like 70 percent of Republicans are like, we're kind of concerned about this. And 5 percent of Democrats are like, we're kind of concerned. The rest of them are like, it's the end. Like 95 percent of Democrats are freaking out over this.

I respect and fear to a point dangerous pathogens and things completely because they can ravage animals quickly. But there's so much evidence that COVID has a, what? 99, 99.9, nine, 99.9. Now it's even more recovery rate.

So it's like people are getting it. And unless you're over 70 or have a comorbidity, then it's 90, uh, 97.5. And that's because of the coma. 97.5. And that's still great for someone with comorbidity.

That's old. That's a high death rate though. That's like, you know, a couple of percentage points is serious. It's sad, but those people were already ill. A lot of those people over 70 and the comorbidity.'s old that's a high death rate though that's like you know a couple percentage points is serious it's sad but those people were already ill a lot of those people over 70 and the comorbidity right right right and they have comorbidities and and when you see numbers like that i'm just not concerned i'm not even concerned so you know it's weird i'm sorry

no go ahead go ahead it's a weird reversal because weren't conservatives considered the types to be like putting up fences closing their doors putting like turtles going into their shell right protective whereas now we're seeing liberals saying no now we have to or leftists i should say now we have to uh put our shells on and close up and conservatives are saying let's open up and check this out in minnesota in the iron range two long time uh like leaders in the democratic party have quit. It's the Democratic Farmer Labor Party or whatever. That's what they call the Democratic Party up in Minnesota.

They quit. And they said, because we want to make a more moderate bipartisan party or whatever in caucus. So the Republicans are like glad to hear it because the Democrats have gone nuts. In Minnesota, the Democrats gained areas that were typically Republican, affluent suburbs, and Trump gained in the working class areas. That's so weird. It's a flip. The Democratic Party has become the party of the wealthy elites and the managerial elites and the moral authoritarians. And the Republican Party has become the party of not completely, but the shift is happening.

Blue collar-ish. Yeah, blue collar, just regular working people. That's weird because I'll go through neighborhoods around where I live and I see a lot of mansions with the Biden signs. Yeah, makes sense. A lot of like carpenter types of people, people who work with their hands. They love Trump. Right. Blue collar people.

We're living in backwards land. It's flipped. I don't know what's going on with 2020. And you look at like the ultra woke people that's typically like a wealthy they're typically upper class progressive they have a lot to lose if the rioters come down their street they have a lot to lose interesting i think the flip is coming it's getting crazier and crazier and maybe that's all that needs to happen and there's not going to be some like chaotic civil war or something but my my bigger fear is is trump if we get to a point where there is some kind of

court certification for trump giving him a legal justification to say he won and then biden refuses to admit defeat and i think it's very likely hillary clinton said joe biden should not concede under any circumstances now to be real like realistic trump is the one who is projected to lose right now i'm not trying to do this stupid like, but Hillary can still win. No, but Trump is still suing. And there's still these like really narrow paths where he might actually figure something out. And if he does, Joe Biden is not going to back down. I'm worried about where if this is a silly chess game, let's say there's only so many ways that could go.

If things turn violent, you get the military involved. That creates bad optics, which creates more anti-authoritarian sentiment which creates more violence right exactly there's no good outcome for that if i was the type of person who says that's what i want chaotic situations where they're begging for the government the right is going to be begging for the government to intercede which looks bad and is bad because you're going to see people getting their heads caved in by like police officers who are angry or national guard or something like that on the other hand if you just let the rioters go crazy like they have been who knows what kind of damage is going to be done people are going to be scared to go outside uh we're sort of backing ourselves because the temperature is so high

we're all backing ourselves into these bad corners where there's really no way out except either bad optics people getting their heads caved in violence i wish this could be solved on a legislative level on let's use our words but everybody seems to be so scared of the other side and in some cases for good reason i don't want to talk to somebody who's coming at me with like a shield and a thing in their hand like bro put it down you see that uh california regional democrat who says we need to deprogram 75 million americans and then the responses were like this is why they have gulags so the crazy thing about it is this guy thinks literally all 75 million trump supporters

are like fanatical conspiracy like psychopaths running around screaming when in fact the overwhelming majority of trump's voters are probably like some dude who was like who should i vote for well trump seems to be for unions and then that's it he's been doing fine that's why i voted for him is he's fine i don't i don't see any reason to change it there's a lot of people who voted for trump who are like not political yeah so so when you know when you see these videos of like the q anon people or like the really diehard trumpers that's a small fraction of trump's base yeah they're they're vocal there's there's many of them it's probably in the millions but most trump supporters are probably just like i don't know man you know i

think trump's gonna do better with the economy i didn't get a 600 fine for not having obamacare so you did no i didn't yeah office yeah that's my I didn't appreciate that at all. I was already broke. I didn't want to sign up for it. Right. So I get fined. It's like, bro, you're stealing money out of my pocket. I'm just this poor. Yep.

I'm already poor. Yeah. And I don't want to sign up for things like this. It disagreed with me morally. I don't feel like I should reach in other people's pockets and take money out of there. I mean, that's what taxes are, I suppose some people could argue. Yeah, it is. And to varying degrees.

You know, I was looking at a chart. I think it's only the 1% for the most part that pays taxes. Most people in this country, under a certain income, they pay taxes, but they receive more from the government, more value, more value than they actually pay. Is that including like roads and fire departments? It's like every every every benefit you get is a net negative for the government, except for the rich people who are paying progressively more taxes. Yeah. OK, well, that sounds functional. Yeah, right.

That sounds really I mean, and the problem is the left response is tax the rich. And it's like, OK, where? How much? Like, what percentage? Like, what are we talking about? And then you hear about this plan for like a wealth tax. It sounds to me like there's too much coming from the left, the progressives, that is literally just them saying burn the country to the ground. Plus the Panama Papers.

Did you guys study those at all when those came out? A little bit. That was a while ago. All the people with their offshore money. Yeah, in Panama and other places. But there's lots of rich people who just store their money over offshore, especially if you start to tax them hard. They'll put it into assets overseas.

They'll hide it. Illegally hide it. You can start a company in a different country to have your income go into, and then you don't got to pay taxes on it. It's crazy. Arguably, you do. But these people find these loopholes. It's like a bad bad chess

game we're far we're way too far both sides are losing and if you were analyzing the game you have to say okay around turn 20 everything went bad for both of us we lost all our pieces we're just going around our kings are circling each other can we just restart can we rewind the game you gotta call a stalemate no no it's, it's not about at turn 20, something went wrong. It's about at a certain point, the Democrats decided repealing the civil rights law in California was a good idea. Would you ever, like,

would you compromise? So the Democrats were like, look, we want to repeal civil rights laws, notably this one in California, and give the government the right to discriminate on the basis of race. Will you compromise? would you would you be okay if we only discriminate on the basis of certain races no what you would you compromise at all with that position or would you say civil rights law must remain they've been you don't you say like give them an inch they take a foot you know something like that give an inch take a mile. Right. They've been doing it for a long time. It's just maybe now they're bolder with their demands.

We've, I say we, but they've been getting their way for a very long time. Now they feel more bold and just saying, you know what? I'm going to take the whole table. I'm not going to just take this one piece of cake. Well, the issue I see is, because I was talking to my friend and she was saying, like, we've got to figure a way to bring people together and, like, move forward as a country. And I was like like i completely agree so if you can figure out a way to convince the people who want to repeal civil rights law in california it failed by the way because the people of california voted against it if you can figure out a way to convince them to stop doing

that then i think we'll have unity but you can't because they're saying you're the racist for allowing these anti-discrimination laws well they, they've been doing it anyway. On your, say, I run an application. I want to work for Tim Incorporated. And there's a little line that says, if you want to, write down your race and gender here. And if I choose not to answer those, that means I'm one of those pesky people with opinions. You're not going to hire me. So they've had those lines in the applications. I've tried to work in the animation industry and stuff like that so i know these things i'm a genius uh so

i'm just kidding but no they have they have softly been screening for this kind of thing for many years that just so happened that they felt bold enough to put it now into law the companies have been doing it forever well so so the issue though is there is such a fundamental difference right now between the two realities there is no compromise though you can compromise on some things probably but some of the stuff they're proposing is just so downright psychotic it's like you're you're not going to compromise on that and that and then you can't bring people together when you have like that story in texas where the dad says his kid is not trans and the mom says the kid is and the mom wants to put the kid on, you know, treatment and medical treatment, which can permanently alter the kid for the rest of his life.

That's like there's no middle ground there. I think we need to think of it as religious in religious terms. Like we're looking at we say religion is like follow this book. But really, it's like a set of rules it's like an operating system perhaps you can put it that way some people have mac installed some people have windows installed you got in this case the mom had mac or pc whatever the dad had the other operating system links right they have to they have completely yeah we think completely differently uh the human mind maybe is just a computer without an operating system installed, but we're taught to say, okay, we're going to view the world, okay, in China, this is what the world is like, this is what is right and wrong, this is how you should behave. In other countries, maybe they're more religious, they say, this is the operating system we're deeply installed than other cases. Maybe you lose your religion, something like that.

But we have a sort of form of secularism, devotion to the state perhaps, depending on – okay, let's say if someone says, I stand for X, Y, and Z, they are told, oh, then you're in this party. Therefore, you have to believe all these other things because you're on our team now. I don't like being on a team. I just – of buffet style this is what i believe here maybe i'll change i believe a little bit of this but obviously well so so like the one one another issue another example is do you know how many unarmed black men were shot and killed by police last year i remember you saying it was like 20 i I'll give you the high end. 13. The low end is 9, depending on which source you use. 13.

When I hear that, I say it does not sound like after 375 million interactions between police and civilians that we have a widespread or systemic problem with police targeting people of color or something like that. But Black Lives Matter believes they do, so they go out and they riot it feels higher to them i would say well i mean it's a media issue i've got a friend who he always jokes he used to joke about uh being pulled over for driving while black he would say uh things like that he's terrified of the police and he i'm sure he's heard stories about people getting beaten up or whatever. It's bad story. And could that be what's driving it? That fear? It's just stories. They're afraid of, understandably, police being cruel to them. I get it.

When I was I hear all this talk, this these stories about the talk, right? Yeah. Where they say, like, you know, they say black families have to give their kids the talk about how to deal with cops. And the weirdest thing to me is like, I went through that talk. Yeah. Like my dad sat me down and said, we have a discussion about what you do when you're stopped by the police.

And I was like, maybe, I guess we're, you know, we are a mixed race family from the South side of Chicago. So maybe that's it. We're not the privileged white people from the suburbs, I guess. But I hear a ton of people of different races who have the talk. But for some reason, the media narrative

makes it specifically about, you know, only black people. But I'm not trying to get into the whole Black Lives matter thing i'm bringing it up just to say the fundamental world view is completely is is divergent there's no there's no bringing that together so you end up with people marching through the streets smashing things burning things down and destroying things and when i say hey you shouldn't do that they say you need to understand their pain it's like well i i i'm not going to compromise with that there's no amount amount of rioting. I'm going to say that's the okay amount. One way you can think of it is I like this metaphor about each of us having our own operating system. And certain people have a different operating system than you do.

So you've got Linux, they've got Windows, and certain mind viruses can only infect you if you're running a specific type of operating system. So this mind virus that's making those people crazy only infects their operating system. It doesn't infect you and you're incapable of understanding the virus because it doesn't function with your operating system. Just hear me out. So in order for you to understand what they're going through, you're going to have to install Windows.

No, that's not the analogy. At least in like a boot camp. I know exactly what they think. They think that, as they've said, that police are hunting down black people and that's just mathematically not possible only it's just not true there's probably instances of profiling that's a fact their racism absolutely exists they're racist cops these things happen but to go out and burn down for white progressives to go to black neighborhoods and burn these buildings

down it's not a matter of me not getting it. I understand why they're angry and they're wrong. So there's no level where I compromise. It's an emotional thing. The issue is not about whether or not I understand them. The issue is flat out like I reject them burning down black businesses in Atlanta. I reject it outright and I will not compromise with it. So there's no bringing these two groups together when one says they believe they have the right, white progressives to go to Atlanta and destroy and burn down black black businesses. You see those rappers.

I forgot the guy's name where he was like, why are you doing this to us? And they just don't give they don't care at all. And so I say I reject the destruction that they bring upon these communities. And that makes me right wing and their left wing. There is no point at which I sit down and I say, so tell me what you want to burn down next. OK, what if you only burn down half? That's never going to happen.

You've got to understand why they feel that way. I know why they feel that way, because the media lies to them and because they have no idea what's really going on. That's not the issue, though. The issue is if someone believes they have a right to do something and I believe that they don't and they're wrong, there is no us coming together. The divergent realities cannot coexist. And it's leading to street violence and it's leading to mass media propaganda. And like the media just puts out garbage, fake stories because it makes them money. They rile up these people into believing crazy things for crazy reasons. And then if you come out and say that's not true, you're right wing. For example,

one of the categories for there's something called transparency tube that like charts who's left and who's right. If you believe that Brett, they lied about Brett Kavanaugh, you're right wing. If you if you believe that, you know, if you talk about migrant caravans and you're critical in any capacity, you're right wing. Is it a website called transparency? And it charts all these different YouTube channels. It's right wing to say they lied about Brett Kavanaugh. Because the right tribe says this is crazy. And the left tribe says Brett Kavanaugh is, you know, a gang abuser.

So that's that's clearly Brett Kavanaugh is not. He was vetted to become a federal judge. That was clearly not true. The woman had no evidence. None of it was corroborated, but they go nuts on that and nothing on Hunter Biden. So you're right wing if you say, wow, Hunter Biden clearly did something and Brett Kavanaugh didn't. That's right wing. So how do you compromise with someone who sits down and says, OK, we will allow Hunter Biden to be arrested for his transgressions, but we're also going to arrest Brett Kavanaugh for being a gang abuser. You're going to be like, but Brett Kavanaugh

didn't do that. Well, we got to compromise, right? No, it's not going to happen. we're also going to arrest Brett Kavanaugh for being a gang abuser. You're going to be like, but Brett Kavanaugh didn't do that. Well, we got to compromise, right? No, it's not going to happen. There's not going to be a compromise between those positions. That's because you cannot compromise about truth. And this comes down to what is true and what is not. And they live in the only world. You ever see that meme where it's like a square from one angle, but the other angle,

the edges are rounded. So it looks like a circle. And then you see the shadows on the wall. And both shadows are right. They're both both true but one person sees the square one two guys looking at a six and a nine yeah very similar so truth is relative to how you perceive the situation well no there are people who believe they know the truth based on limited information but some things are just true i don't so the the the available body of evidence on say brett kavanaugh would not bring us to a position

beyond a reasonable doubt that Brett Kavanaugh did anything wrong. There's just no evidence. In fact, there's evidence to the contrary. Her friends were saying they don't recall what she's talking about and they don't think they even knew Brett. Yet she still carried on. The Democrats still said he did it. And now you still have the left saying, I can't believe that that rapist is now on the

Supreme Court. It's like they never presented literally any evidence. The only evidence that came out was that she was probably lying about some things. Like when she said she was scared to fly and then she was asked, didn't you fly to like the Bahamas or something? And she goes, yes. Okay. Like I thought you were scared to fly.

Apparently not. So they have no leg to stand on, but they just believe it. It's the true and anonymous Shabbat of pressure. I'm going to call that true. It's the trunanana shabba to pressure phenomenon. I'm going to call it that. It's the trunanana shabba to pressure phenomenon, where the left will just cheer for anything so long as it's blue, period. They don't want to be afraid anymore, I think. But at the very bottom, even beneath the operating system thing, I think just on the humans as an organism can't stand to be afraid for too long. They will jump on any, they say, there's that saying, any port in a storm. I don't want

to be afraid anymore. Hey, government, hey, TV, hey, CNN, just tell me something so that I don't have to be afraid anymore. Tell me what I need to do or say. Do I need to go and chant with this group of people over here? Fine. I just don't want to be afraid anymore you for instance cavanaugh i feel like they're not attacking him as a person they don't know him as a person but they're attacking the symbol the symbol of a right-leaning judge in a majority possible well now it's a majority a right-leaning majority that means that it will take away certain freedoms from them that they value more than their own safety and the safety of others. They will become violent because they are convinced that that symbol being in a position

of power means their lives and other lives will be ruined. They're afraid of what will happen. So they have to attack the symbol. They're attacking Trump, but they're not really attacking Trump. They're attacking what he symbolizes. Well, the media painted him as this image. That's why they loved him before he ran. He was a TV star.

Yeah, he was funny before. But now he's in a position of power that's very scary. People don't want to be scared. So then ultimately the issue is we have two divergent realities. One, where the media just ignores the Constitution and says Joe Biden won when he didn't. And it looks like he's on track to win. That's fine. But we're nowhere near that point. We're a month away from an actual winner in the traditional constitutional process. The media just doesn't care. So now you have one side saying, let the process play out. We're still waiting. It's like, but the other side saying it's not true. And all these people just believe it.

There's divergent realities. And so the idea that we could come together to me seems just not possible regarding the people that would give up their freedom and that seek safety or freedom i think that's literally like a thomas jefferson quote might have been jefferson sure uh those that are willing to give up their freedom i think safety incorrectly attributed to ben franklin franklin deserve neither safety nor freedom. And we'll lose both. Yeah. Who was that attributed to? Was that?

I think it was falsely attributed to Ben Franklin, but I don't know the origin of it. Basically, if you give up your freedom for security, you're going to lose all of it. Those that would give up. Storming into your house and dragging your wife out by her hair and looking for the noise behind the TV. You don't want to give up your freedom. That was the idea. It's like saying, what words,

what prayer do I have to say? Do I have to go to confession? I don't mean to speak against religion. Some religions are very good, I think. But what do I have to say or do? Do I have to give money, light a candle, whatever, to just make the guilt, the pain, the fear go away?

Just tell me, oh priest, or tell me, oh group, what do I need to do to make it go away? There's something very deep in the organism of humans that's beneath culture. It's just the whole organism of humans. We need to go to an external source because I think we punish ourselves a lot with, with fear and guilt and sort of, uh,, if I grew up in a really rich family, I have a certain guilt. I didn't. But let's say I feel a certain guilt

because I had certain privileges that other people don't. I can then be convinced by, let's say, a very charismatic person that, hey, I grew up with all these privileges, therefore I should feel guilty. And therefore I should give away everything I have and then serve a certain group of people that I think are underprivileged, which could be a good thing that can make my guilt go away.

That's a potentially good thing. But if you apply that to a certain ideology that says all people who are doing well are evil and are stealing, you are now taking that guilt and turning it, you're almost weaponizing it. People can be converted because of guilt feelings. They can be converted into weapons, which we've seen with the communists and socialism. I can understand why on its surface it seems attractive, but when you see, there's that saying, you can know a tree by its fruit. When you see what happens years down the road to these countries, know the Gulag Archipelago, for instance, you see what happens years down the road to these countries, the Gulag Archipelago, for instance, you see what happens to anyone who's doing better than anyone else.

They are now a target because clearly they took advantage of somebody else. So anytime I'm doing better than the guy next to me, I have to feel guilty. And then that person has an advantage over me of like a moral superiority i'm below i'm below that person they're doing better than me therefore uh i don't know communism is whack i can get away with stealing from him so for instance you'll see uh the rioters and the looting they'll someone once told me um it's okay to steal from like walmart because you know they're doing so well as because they steal from their workers right and it doesn't matter you're still stealing that's the point you're breaking

the law and lawlessness leads to all kinds of like other problems and there's a million reasons not to do it it's wrong but they're justifying it and saying that person was not doing well off when you start uh excusing what we're calling it crime uh when you excuse it you start going into all these things of like well if i just turn the other way well some guy got clubbed over the head but he deserved it i'm sure he deserved it so so uh why did they come after you let's let's talk about the the reddit stuff sure um so first tell us a story and then we'll talk about what why it happened i'm really bad at telling the story so i forgive please forgive me but uh so on reddit i drew a series of comics that did really well uh in terms of votes the way that reddit works if anyone doesn't know you get upvotes and downvotes

um upvotes means everybody likes your thing your post and lots of if you get a score of zero that means lots of people downloaded it so i drew drew a series of comics back in December of 2018. Long story short, one of them, they kept getting better and better scores until one of them hit the all-time record. And then the next comic I drew after that, well, the comic was about the mob going after comics creators. I have a certain comics friend who was raked over the coals by the mob, and they all enjoyed taking him down. So the joke was that, hey, come be our new king. So I, the new king of Reddit slash comics, would sit on this new throne, but his dead body with spears that were upvote arrows were going through him. And it's like, okay, we're going to get rid of his body and you can come sit on the throne and be our new comics king. So the next comic after that was I was sitting there staring at the crowd and I'm thinking, okay, so how do I entertain these people?

And I drew as the punchline the hand circle game. And if anyone doesn't know, the hand circle game is, I guess I won't hand circle game is i guess i won't show it but okay hands on yeah it's yeah it's the upside down though so it's the joke being like i'll put it beneath my belt and if you look at it then i get to punch you in the shoulder of course so it was an anti uh joke it's like i have no joke therefore i'm going to play the hand circle game with everyone on reddit hey i get to punch you all on the shoulder. Right. That was my punchline. But they interpreted it as the OK Hand symbol, which was prevalent at the time, especially, and still is.

They saw it as dog whistle. They proceeded to basically scrutinize everything that I've ever put up online. They went to my Twitter. They started real. They're like, oh, he follows this, that in person. Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, whatever. I followed left-leaning people as well. But didn't care about that they just said it's a dog whistle we elected we we gave all these upvotes to a guy who is a crazy right-wing psycho whatever

so the next day uh they basically downvoted everything i posted including um more comics it doesn't matter i tried to explain myself and i realized on reddit you can't because if they downvote you no one will see it they'll brigade you yeah your answers are invisible basically so basically long story short they ran me off the website so for a while like so so in the context of what we're just talking they assumed i was a crypto fash alt right-alt-right dog whistler. I don't think that's true. I was in a high position.

I think it was just crabs in a barrel. This guy's climbing up, pulling back down. That's very likely as well. Because you said that the previous guy was on the throne. They went after him. Yes. I guess he did too good, too. Yeah.

Anytime someone does too well on the internet or anywhere in society it's like hey let's cut them down just grab them in a barrel man yeah that may have been it that may have been it and they just want an excuse to chop people like that down so because i kind of called them out on it i said this is what you're going to do i had already drawn the strip of them lighting me on fire and then i put it up the next day like i basically told you guys what you were going to do and you did it yep and then i reaped up the next day like i basically told you guys what you were going to do and you did it yep and then i reaped the fruits of that and my career was ruined i wouldn't say so well it's a weird story of how i got to where i am now but um no for for several months i thought

that was the end and uh yeah i was like all right so then you just went the other direction and started drawing joe biden eating people people. Well, that was an accident. You accidentally drew Joe Biden eating someone? Well, that was, what, 18 months later, something like that. So I had been drawing comics still on the side, earning a few bucks here and there, drawing indie comics, basically. I have a series called Mary Sue that got crowdfunded on uh indiegogo it was pretty healthy i had a little comic strip that kind of got me through that year uh some people were very kind to buy my books and i found a new home on twitter i guess by accident i was drawing

political strips and they kept doing better and better um and then people kept just saying hey your comic strips are better than your indie comics, so keep drawing comic strips. And I draw my... I think... Which was the biggest one? Because was it the... The biggest one of all time for me. Yeah, I'll never vote for you. And he says, then I'm afraid you ain't black.

He sucks out the blackness out of the lady, and she falls over. And now she's white. And then you did the Kanye West, but he reverses it because he's got Trump's dragon energy. He has dragon energy, yeah. I love that one. There's a whole series of these. And yeah, it's just's got Trump's dragon energy. He has dragon energy, yeah. I love that one. There's a whole series of these.

And yeah, it's just a silly, it's just dumb. I don't think my comics are better than anyone else's. But I guess it just tapped into something and people responded to it at the right place, right time. We were talking about that earlier. Just drawing Joe Biden with like his eyes are black. And he's drooling as he raises his hand and says, I'm afraid you ain't black. He wants that energy, I guess. Yeah, it's, you know, a good political comic, I think, is timely.

I kind of compare it to like a ripe fruit. It's only funny for a day or two. And then if I draw the comic too late, it's not even worth drawing his own. I don't know what the joke is in this one, but I love it. Eating the Bernie girl? Yes, it's Bernie girl, which is her OK Boomer or whatever her name is. That series, alright, so it sucks to explain a

joke because it's not funny anymore, but the joke... If you put it on Ian, you can see this part of it. Yeah, I did. I showed part of it. I drew that one after he won what do you call it when... Not Super Tuesday, right? He was chosen as the Democrat guy. Yeah, the nomination. So the punchline there is that he's absorbing Bernie supporters.

Oh. Right. All I know is you drew a picture of Bernie, of Biden with gigantic crooked teeth eating a young woman. That's amazing. And then whatever that is at the bottom right corner. First he smells her. Yeah. Of course he smells her.

He unfortunately consolidated all of the bernie supporters at the time they didn't want nobody wanted biden back then we got to remember nobody wants biden now yeah no for real nobody does but all the people voted for him are complaining about him already they have to get in line behind the champion to beat the uh the reigning champion who they hate the heel in this wrestling match is trump and we have to support anyway, even if it's Kamala Harris. Everyone knows it's going to be Kamala Harris. I really can't stand this system

where we cult worship one person in the middle and everyone circles around them in life. Humans? That's another simplification. The process started with a ton of people and there are a bunch of different people supporting a bunch of different people and then one by one,

you find the one person everyone kind of- That you want to put on the throne you kind of well i mean we're talking about just one of the offices of the 50 something thousand we have in this country so i would be happy to have like a council of people we do it's called the supreme court no i mean as president like 12 people to run as be the president but so so the reason the founding fathers created three branches is because they made literally what you're describing. So I would like now the executive branch to expand and become 12 people functioning as the president. Well, the common citizen, I think, doesn't want to.

They don't want to really run these high level problems. They've got enough problems on their own, the family work and stuff like that. So we have to choose people to make these decisions for us. Hopefully they're trustworthy. A lot of the times it turns out uh when people climb to a certain level in society it turns out they're almost all corrupt for some reason that's a weird pattern um but we like to choose people to do our thinking for us because who has time to micromanage uh international affairs i'm not i don't have time

to study that the reason we have one president is that this is a specific branch designed for rapid response yeah i get that so it's like if if someone's like i'm going to fire a missile at you and you had three presidents they'd be like what do we do i say we do this no we do this oh no all the non-rapid response stuff he does is a little excessive maybe we could have a council for like making policy or doing vetoes but that's but that we do it's called congress veto power it's crazy that one guy can veto something like you should have to have a group of people that have to decide if that's going to be vetoed it's too much power to put in one person's hands we do it's called congress then trump can veto and then

congress does a two-thirds vote to override the veto but i don't like yeah so you need a ton of people to override the president's excellent i think you should so you need a ton of people to override the president's veto. Excellent. That's wonderful. I think you should have to have a ton of people or a group of people to override Congress's motions too. The courts can overrule them too. Checks and balances. I mean the Supreme Court maybe? It's brilliant. You need a court of people. We don't have one supreme judge.

No, we don't. No. That's why we have – We have one supreme president. It's a little disgraceful I think. Well, it's designed to run – Disconcerting. It's designed very, very well actually. I disagree. But it's designed no disconcerting it's it's designed very

very well actually uh but it's designed to run slowly is the problem when you have a crisis you can't have the slow moving machine but that's why you have a president who can respond with war powers that's the argument but that's literally why they did it they if when you have a when you have a direct democracy you get tyranny of the majority and you get slow response to a crisis. When you have a council of elders, then, you know, you have the learned bunch, but you still can't move quickly enough. Now he's got the Supreme Court nomination power. That's a little extreme for one person, but that should be a group of people. The issue you're mad about is the Democrats. When Harry Reid took away the two thirds requirement for a Supreme Court justice confirmation, blame them for it. They changed the rules to manipulate the system to gain power,

and it backfired on them. I think the auxiliary war powers that George Bush gave the president with the Patriot Act successor. Well, he didn't give it with the Patriot Act. Congress did. Yeah. So the issue is ridiculous that one person has that kind of power. So the problem isn't the one person. It's the legislative body that you are asking for giving power over and over and over again endlessly and that's why the approval rating for congress is like 20 or something why do we have i think it's both the problem is both i don't like that there's like we one person gets so much power the most powerful person in the world for four years and then then the next person gets their their their sloppy chops to go be the most powerful person in the world it's some nobody that didn't earn it they just got voted in

simplistic view you could argue that like chuck grassley or mitch mcconnell are more powerful no the president can order a drone bomb no he can't he needs approval of congress to declare war well obviously the problem is no not declare war or issue a drone strike. He can't. Yes, he's not supposed to be able to do that. I know. And Congress had the power to levy war and granted ridiculous power to the president. Well, that's too much power. Yes, absolutely. But Trump has been curtailed every step of the way through lawsuits over and over and over again.

Almost everything he's tried to do, he's getting jammed up. I don't have a list of his executive orders. I'd like to get a list of. They wouldn't even. They let Obama create DACA. And then when Trump was like, then I'll end DACA. You can't do can't do that well it's like well obama had too much power too but so so so trump has less power good i'm glad he got scrutiny in the exec in the in the office they went a little nuts with it but we this the problem is over time the rules kept getting changed to make it easier for the ruling class that wanted the

rhinos and the dinos, the Democrats and Republicans. Their only mission is, can I be popular, more popular than the other guy to get elected so I can get the keys to the castle? Then you get Lindsey Graham. This is a perfect example of this. Lindsey Graham says Trump should fight. He needs to fight this and I'm going to donate and I believe everyone should fight. And then he goes into the Senate floor and he fist bumps Kamala Harris and pats her on

the back and walks away. He has no because he doesn't actually care about Trump fighting for re-election. He wants people to think it so that they vote for him and they did. And then secretly he's like,

you go, Kamala. Congratulations. They don't actually care about you. I don't like the system, man. They're getting bribed. No, I don't like the people. We got one of the best systems in the world.

The problem is we got a bunch of bad people. It's the worst form of government except all the other ones that have been tried. Yes. That's the, what was it, Winston Churchill? Yeah, Winston. Oh, Winston.

And he's right. It can be improved. Yeah. We're kind of just spitting about how to do it. We have the process for amendments. The problem is, right now, you've had over a long period of time, this war has been going on, this figurative war, whatever you want to call it. The Middle East stuff?

No, no, no, no. The Democrats, like Harry Reid in 2013, saying we're going to change the rules so that we can pass whatever we want instead of compromising with Republicans. And then Mitch McConnell said, mark my words, you will come to regret this and probably sooner than you realize. And then now Trump's got three Supreme Court justices through because they changed the rules because they were power hungry and said, I could negotiate with you as we're supposed to do. No, we'll just all agree to change the rules because we have the majority. And Congress can vote to give themselves raise all the time. Of course, all in favor of giving us more money? Aye. All opposed? Motion passes.

They do it all the time. It's wonderful. I love it. We were talking about this yesterday. I said I think we're on the brink of getting rid of that group of people, that representation style, and just start having more of a direct representation system. I don't know. I don't think we can. Well, because democracy doesn't work. You would have to start a completely new country on some continent that hasn't been discovered yet, I would think. Instead of, like, voting for someone that makes all the decisions in their own head, you could just vote for your segment of the decision.

But, like, to say they make all the decisions is just ridiculously simplistic. But, like, okay, 700,000 people vote for one person, and then that one person gets their say amongst the other 230 or whatever. Now, what if instead the 700,000 people got one 230th of this choice? Yes or no? And then every 700,000 people gets one 230th of the choice. That's just called direct democracy. No, it's a direct representation. You cut out those people that can get bribed.

I think corruption is going to find its way in no matter what we do. The more checks and balances we have in place, the better. But unfortunately, when you get enough corrupt people into a system, they're going to invite their friends to be a part of it. Hey, let's also be on the take. And they have all the kinds of creepy – they get all kinds of – I learned the word compromise last year. Oh, yeah. Compromising material, man, they, even if you don't want to vote for something, it's like, Hey, we have a, this video of you eating a captain crunch and everyone hates captain crunch.

And we don't want that to leak, do we? So you got to vote for, you know, tricks and it's corruption is going to find its way in no matter what. I think these systems have to be built with human, the human capacity for corruption, evil, if you want to use it that. But who gets to define what the word evil even means? I'm sorry. I think the issue is that the only people who really want to be in office are those who want power. And regular people who probably do a better job of it don't want to bother. Don't want to bother don't want don't

want to do it even a lot of uh people who vote for a certain if you have a vote maybe they get a stack of paper what like this it's so thick and it's like who's gonna actually read through all that ran paul ran paul i liked him he's like the only one that's a guy who i really wanted for back then yeah it's um but most of them it's just like oh let's talk about what the summary is and i'll just vote whatever they don't that's the whole point of a republic anyways like i'm going to pick someone to do all that reading for me so i can go and live my life i think i think we're starting to see this wave i think both on the left and the right has a wave of new up-and-coming politicians who believe what they say yeah and i might disagree with with some of these lefties,

but I respect them more than some of these fake plastic keys to the castle. Democrats are Republicans. So on the right, you've got, uh, who's that? Who's that woman who just won? She owns the restaurant.

She's the gun lady. Oh, her name is Lauren Bobert. Yes. Yeah. Right. Uh, there's people like her.

She really cares. She got politically active. She ran, she won. And you can see that someone like her, a regular person who wants to do something good, at least that's the impression that I get compared to like these stodgy suit wearing plastic politicians that don't actually care. You then have people on the left like Nancy Pelosi. She does not want to do anything for anybody.

She's awful. But then you get some of these young progressives who are running and they really want to see legitimate change. And they're adamant when they say Green New Deal and Medicare for all. They really believe it's the right thing. And hey, you know what? I might disagree with a lot of how they want to go about it with like weird intersectionality stuff. But I can respect them way more. They actually want to do something because I think it will help people.

I mean they say the path to hell is paved with good intentions. So you still have to push back on bad arguments. There's a big difference between like Nadler and like one of these upstart progressives to be fair i wouldn't even put aoc in that category because she's one of the worst aoc is the perfect representation of the keys to the castle democrats she goes on social media she finger snaps and clap backs and and that's her whole thing i get the feeling that she's not speaking her own words there's someone speaking through her well it used to be that way it was uh was it psyched psyched chakrabarti and then he resigned or something like that so who knows who's speaking through

her now but i don't trust it's it's weird because it's kind of like taking a youtuber and giving them political power it's like they're she's an influencer more than a because her district is like tiny right i mean she's got 700 000 people but it's geographically small right but her influence is uh monstrous throughout the yeah throughout everywhere so she's more of an influencer in terms of youtube than uh she's little district in the middle this is this is what i'm worried about in terms of how politics will happen in the future because she has so many followers she can snap her fingers and raise an insane amount of money that's it that's maybe that's what they were looking for there's some kind of the internet age has spawned a new kind of politician star

that that's a new and very scary i mean we're at the whim of i mean you want to talk about how scary trump is i mean he could say something at least he has a counterbalancing force whereas aoc she can say something mobilize her whole uh all of her people that are backing her but the biggest weapon that the right has is calling her dumb and that's the stupidest strategy you can like you got the shapiro types and uh crowder and all those people they're calling her names and stuff. It's like, bro, you're feeding her base. You're making her stronger by making fun of her, by calling her dumb and whatever. You have to take her very seriously.

Biden and I don't take so seriously because it's silly. But someone. But, you know, to be fair, even if you made a made a video or like you have Shapiro and or Crowder did. And they and they said nothing to insult her and just said you know and ben was like i think aoc is absolutely incorrect on this point and i respect her her you know efforts to push for the green new deal but you got to recognize these things are wrong all the all the left is going to do is eat it up and say he's talking about aoc and they're going to say really dumb things like she's not going to date you ben

oh my god well remember when he asked to debate her, she said, are you cat calling me? Right. Give me a break. She, she makes her arguments on an emotional level. So she, it's like playing a checkers versus chess, man. Like people eat up what she says because they, humans are fundamentally emotional creatures.

The intellect is a thing that's like, you have to, you have to a, be educated to even understand what the rational people are saying. You have to be willing. It takes effort. It's like a higher resolution way of perceiving the world. But the lower resolution way, the Nintendo 8-bit version, is the emotions.

Appeal to the emotions. This person's bad. This is a scary thing. There's people suffering. And the only way we can save them is by doing this. And never mind that it's going to bankrupt the country. It's the right thing to do because it makes me feel better it makes me talk about trump no just in general like say universal basic income is something i i disagree with that i think there's a million bad there's a million uh side effects that we don't want to happen

because of ubi let's say um it sounds good on paper there's people that can really do a lot with that money it sounds like a seven-year-old's answer to a problem if people are hungry just give them money because then they can buy food well that's what food stamps are so it's like yeah but but we're talking about like covid lockdown especially the government should just tell everyone to stay home and not work and then give everyone money because then they can use the money to buy stuff and then you say yes yes honey but then if everyone's home who makes the stuff you would buy but like the food's at the store money is a social construct yeah no but like i actually got into an argument with someone who said if we did a ubi

during like if we did like a ubi for the lockdown then people would have money to go to the store and buy stuff and i was, and what would they buy? Like, what do you mean they'd buy food? And who would put the food there? What are you talking about? Like the food's at the store. And I'm like, people put it there. And then where do the people get it from the guy in the truck?

And where does the guy in the truck get it from? From the people who put it in the bottles in the first place. And if you tell everybody to stay home, then you're not going to have stuff to buy. It's really freaking scary, dude. It's they want mommy and daddy back. Yeah, they do. They're scared. It's they want mommy and daddy back. It's yeah, they're scared. They are de-aging the whole country and we just want to feel safe and okay again. They want us to be dependent. I'm trying not to use strong language, but like they want us to be bottle drinking out

of it. Yeah, I wanted to use another. So I absolutely have to clarify. I understand there are essential workers because that's the first thing they always say when they to clarify. I understand there are essential workers. Because that's the first thing they always say when they're like, dude, there are essential workers who are doing these jobs. It's kind of messed up. They have to. So they should get a stimulus too.

And I'm like, dude, you can't have every single job be essential. The bottling plant, the dairy farm, the truckers, the manufacturing for the bottles to bring it there, the people working at the store. Because otherwise you're just telling me that everything's essential. I guess, of course, DJs aren't or something like that. Fine. But the problem is your money becomes substantially worth less and there's less to buy. And the other problem is that because the supply chain got disrupted in the initial lockdown, there wasn't any milk.

The dairy farmers had nowhere to send the milk to because the bottling plants had shut down because they got infected with COVID. And then they couldn't process the milk. They just dumped it on the ground. And then the farms and all the crops, they're like, we can't get anybody to pick it up or process it. So they just, they, they tilled it back into the land and just rolled it over. So these people don't understand the economy is, it's a house of cards almost. I've, you know, i know that's been used in a negative way to mock the stock market but it literally is like it's a very very delicately balanced system supply chain for sure and if you take one piece out of it other pieces start to

crumple and fall apart and we saw that earlier in the year when you couldn't like it was really difficult to buy basic things i remember because of the supply chain disruption you couldn't buy professional equipment like i was trying to get like a power cable for a camera gone all this is crazy this is only like two months ago all the all the video game consoles gone from everywhere even still it's still i hear it's just insanely the most essential but they're crazy i know you don't need these things but it's like that why why why can't we get a playstation because people couldn't make places because the supply chain broke. Yeah, I ordered a bedroom set.

And they were like, it'll be there in February. And I was like, are you serious? I ordered it in September. Give me a break. So they give you money. What do you buy with it? And so what's going to happen is the money is, I guess, potentially like what mass deflation of some sort. If there's nothing to buy with the money, the money becomes worthless.

Property values are going to go down. Because the only thing you can buy are essential goods. It's a perfect storm for a revolution, I would say. People are depressed at home. They need change. They're broke. They've lost everything. They're angry. They need someone to blame it on.

And the rich are getting richer. The poor are getting poorer. I don't know. Maybe we should light some fires. I don't know. I don't catch what they're doing. Got to stay warm somehow. How do you feel about congressional term limits?

That sounds great. We should do that. Especially if they don't know how to send text messages on their own phone or set up their own email accounts or something like that. We live in the internet age and the internet is a very scary thing. I think if you need to be able to vote – if you have the right to vote on it, you should be able to answer certain basic questions. You know, I think I've thought about this, the most perfect form of government. Call it goblinism. Yeah, where basically you have one king, right?

And then in order to become king, you have to kill the king. Can I kill the king then? Yeah, anybody. Okay. Anybody. And then you're not going to come after me. I mean, someone might. But i i forgot what it's actually where this is going right right right just side ism right just citizen where uh you kill the king to become the king despotism but think about it no no no no no no better than that because anybody can become the king the issue is you have to really want to be

the king right so that would deter people who just wanted you know luxury and company but i don't want to live under the sword of damocles if we were going to do turn i'm kidding by the way i don't think that would be okay good if we were going to do term limits um but congress wouldn't vote for their own term limits can the citizenry get like a 51 percent demarchy what's that demarchy is like you get Congress duty in the mail. You'd go to your mailbox and you'd be like, I got Congress duty. I got to go to D.C. now and be in Congress for the next six months. If we were going to institute it, what is it like if we were going to get the national initiative approved? We'd have to get 51% of the population to vote it and then we could just bypass Congress.

If we wanted to do something as a citizenry, 350 million of us, we got 190 million. You would need numerous constitutional amendments. Could we pass an amendment to the Constitution without Congress if we as a citizenry had 51%? So you need Congress. The states would all pass it, and then once two-thirds ratify it, Congress can, you know, whatever. But if 170 million of us decided we wanted something, couldn't we just buy a democracy? We are not a democracy. Yeah, but it's us, dude.

This government is us. We are the government in this country. Yes, but we are not a democracy. How can we even verify those votes, though? Like open source? You're asking me? Blockchain. But people tell me, no, blockchain's not the way.

It doesn't verify anything, dude. What don't you understand? Maybe a database of some sort. If one guy forges 500 votes, you'd be like, the blockchain says they're real. And the guy just forged them. I mean, we could always vote on stone tablets. Yeah, absolutely. You can't mute those unless you have a laser cutter.

Or paper with three people watching. It's like going back. I don't want to go backwards to handheld votes that you've got to give someone to carry somewhere, can to someone, to take to somebody else that you hope they're doing the right thing. I'm tired of that stuff. Can you secure a database perfectly and permanently? I don't know. That's it.

I mean, perfection, no. No one can ever do anything perfectly. But you can secure a box perfectly and permanently for the most part. Not perfectly. For the most part. For the most part. Compared to a computer system, I can take a lockbox. I can wrap it in chains. I can put it in a cement block, and no one's ever going to get inside of it.

Yeah, but they could steal it. A gigantic five-ton concrete block wrapped in chains? The government could steal that. The point is, you say blockchain voting, and then Google rolls out quantum computing, and they can unravel the blockchain, and they can change whatever they want without you knowing. Because Google's already got quantum computing capabilities. So this encryption could be compromised as far as we know already. I have a feeling that the system they've been using, what is it called?

This stupid computer system, this proprietary... Dominion. Yeah, this Dominion thing has already been compromised, it seems like. Well, yeah, but so if you did blockchain voting, you're assuming that no one has the capability to break the encryption. Okay, then if not blockchain voting, something like an immutable database of some sort. Like physical paper that

three people have to witness. But how would you get, if 170 of us voted, where would those three people come from? That means... We actually used to do this everywhere. In Canada, they do it. That's what they do. They have three people while they're counting ballots, and they all scrutinize the number, and then they have physical they have so you would call people up you did you draft

people to be like vote processors how do you think how do you how do you think we count ballots now dude i have you put it in a machine no i have no we have a democrat a republican and a tabulator and they sit at a table and they go through it but then they put it in the machine and the machine things get mixed up, I guess. So the issue now is like some memory cards didn't get uploaded after the machine processed them or something. So for the most part, we have we used to actually have scrutinized paper ballots. And then we got we got away from them. And now we have compromised technology because a voting machine is less secure than a hard piece of paper. Well, you're assuming that those paper votes were accurate.

I would be very surprised. Well, we have affidavits saying many of these paper ballots look to be forged or fake. And thinking of the 1800s, I can only imagine the amount of voter defragilation. Before the internet, a guy could walk up to a voting booth and wave a gun around. And then people would run away. And that's it. And then what are they going to do about it? Nothing. Tell no one or it'll come after your family yeah yeah that kind of stuff today there's someone gonna be filming it and they're gonna look what this guy's

doing yeah i want like to be as least associated with the process as possible so like that's why i like internet voting so you don't have to go to the polling places because people are like standing outside with baseball bats i don't like that you should be able to vote from the safety of your own home there's always going to be some corrupt way to get around it, I'm sure. Maybe. I'm not seeking perfection. I just want to improve the system. I don't know.

There's other things called the DAT protocol. It's another decentralized service. We could use some... I'm sure we could improve and create some sort of internet service that we could vote on. Too easy to hack. And then you'd get foreign hackers. Foreign foreign governments would be like let's do this doing that anyway dude yes but there's a difference between having a hard paper ballot that can be

pulled up and audited later the problem is the democrats are rejecting the audit if we audit these papers and there are fraudulent machine stamped uh votes we're gonna find them so it's a shame that democrats are saying don't do it because we need to and they're not so they're not doing i guess in georgia they weren't doing signature verification verification to a heavily scrutinized degree and the other problem is this is what the trump campaign brought up same day registration basically voids the need for a signature because if you walk in and say i'd like to register and then you put mickey mouse then you vote mickey mouse they're going to compare it looks good to me same day registration what if we did a vote like we just did but it would additionally put that data on a blockchain so it's like a third form of verification somebody

could then break the encryption change it and then sue saying look there's a discrepancy yeah and you'd be like well no i didn't vote for that guy that the blockchain is wrong and they're not going to ask 500 million people well you would have to check it on your own. It would just be another form of security. What don't you get about when someone steals a vote, the person doesn't know or care? Dude, if you don't check who you voted for, then you're a big fool right now. Check who you voted for. Ian, there are people who were called by Matt Brainerd from the Voter Integrity Fund, and they were asked if they voted, and they said no.

Yeah, that kind of stuff would still happen. And guess what? If you didn't vote, why would you check to see if you did? Everyone should check to see if they got voted for. They absolutely should. But why would a person, a regular person is going to be like, I didn't vote. I don't know. Whatever.

Because Dominion's sketchy. And that's why you should do it. It's not about Dominion. I'm talking about. It's about somehow these people requested an absentee ballot and then mailed it in. And then when they were asked, they said, I didn't ask for a ballot. Yeah, yeah. We should be protecting ourselves right now.

I think it's your civic duty. I'm just, I think we could test blockchain stuff by doing it in addition to, just to see if it works. I think saying blockchain has always and consistently been a buzzword and people haven't given an actual reason why we should use it. It's just like blockchain technology, man. It's like, and? It's public and it's not like an Excel sheet.

When it gets put on there, it stays on there. And if it gets changed, you see the change. So you're saying if we had a publicly visible database with active archiving, we wouldn't need blockchain? Well, if it was immutable, yeah. Well, it could be mutable, but people can watch the changes happen in real time. Well, ideally, it wouldn't be mutable if it was a voting database. You'd just be set in stone, digital stone.

Google's got quantum computing, and they can probably unravel and break down. No, dude. Nothing's perfect. So then why bother? We're destined for corruption. It doesn't mean not try. So why bother creating a system that the average person can't understand instead of creating something rudimentary, simple, and easy to secure like a piece of paper? It's not easy to secure.

It absolutely is. Dude, as we can see, they're not doing it because it's a pain in the behind to count 350 million votes over and over again. The evidence exists, and they're refusing to properly go through it. It's a very different problem to they didn't exist. I just don't— If you have— I think of you as extremely intelligent.

How you think that paper ballots is secure is insane to me it it is one of the most insecure ways to function you don't understand how computers work that's why well then you're not using paper ballots if you're using computers right no no i think you don't understand how computer security works like infosec so like it's impossible to secure a system period it's a fact of course that's why cyber security cyber security is often focused on offense as opposed to defense, because it's almost impossible, the amount of holes that exist in a system, to actually secure it. So you're basically saying, we have paper ballots, which have security issues.

Let's create the most insecure system possible to help. To use alongside it. That doesn't make sense. I'm not saying replace it. It is so easy to manipulate a database without anyone noticing. But if you had a box of paper ballots you gotta break into the warehouse and then you have pay someone to do it for you yeah there's lots of ways to get a box of paper dude and if you've got three people who have scrutinized the numbers and you have sealed boxes stacked and buried somewhere it's a lot harder to change than just sitting in your mom's basement

with your gigantic overweight bell and you type in a computer you're 300 pound hacker like trump said and then you go changed make it hard i don't know enough about it security is about making it harder to do right bribing a security guard to break into the building committing various felonies and then stealing paper ballots which three people have already certified the number and the number changes they all say that wasn't the right number we all agree, we got a problem. What happened? Check the security cameras. Hey, look, the security guard broke somebody in.

Lock them up. With a security system, they're going to be like, they used a proxy with a Yagi antenna blasting two miles away to get Wi-Fi from a Starbucks. Broken. The guy was probably in Russia. We have no idea where the attack came from. So check the paper ballots. You can check the paper ballots right now. And if I'm saying in addition to if something goes wrong, what's the

point of the blockchain at all? It's a third form of security. How is it security at all? Because you can verify if it is exactly the same amount. It's redundant. It's of course, it's redundant. We need redundancy to prove the system, dude. That's the point. If you've got multiple people who have certified and you have the physical ballots and you can count them right now, then the blockchain is just a waste of time. No, it's a redundancy. It's not a waste of time. What does it do? It triple checks the system. Why would you need to if you've already had three people? Because Dominion's proprietary, or you could have dudes urinating on paper ballots and destroying them. I'm talking about not using Dominion. I'm talking about regular people like they do in Canada, watching the vote

physically, physically be counted and all through and say, we agree. And then moving on. Whereas in Pennsylvania, they pushed everyone 30 feet away or a hundred feet away and put them behind a barricade. So they'd use binoculars. That doesn't make sense. I know. And they're still saying that it's fine. And good thing is there are paper ballots. The problem is the security envelopes were destroyed already. So therein lies the main problem. First, the voting machine is irrelevant. We need to check the actual paper ballots. Now, the good thing about the Dominion system is that they try and manipulate it through Dominion and it doesn't match the paper ballots.

Then you can say, hey, wait a minute. Someone did something. So that works. But all that really matters in the end from what I'm trying to say is, can we verify the votes and can we go back and check them if something changes? Yes. Paper ballots are secure, way more secure to have a physical object. Like I'll tell you this. You can lose a Bitcoin so easily. Like how many people have lost Bitcoin? Ridiculous amounts. There's a story of the guy who went to the dumpster desperately trying to find his laptop. The coins are gone. There was somebody I knew who had a locked USB stick and they forgot the password.

And they're like, I can't get in. And I got like three Bitcoin. They're probably freaking out now. Whereas you piece of gold, you put it in your basement. You're like, oh, yeah, it's in the closet. But if you had a piece of gold and a piece of crypto that was basically, I don't know, like for that gold, there was a piece of crypto that you had. So as long as you have one, you have the other. That would be better. Like it represents, there was a piece of crypto that you had. So as long as you have one, you have the other. That would be better.

It represents the gold, a piece of crypto. So you're talking about fractional reserve banking? If you sell the gold to someone or give it to someone, you also give them that crypto as a receipt with it. They have that, actually. They have coins with a barcode that holds the... So we could do something like that with voting. I just don't see what the point is. Just as a security redundancy? I don't see what the point is. Just security redundancy.

I guess. It's a sticky situation, you guys. I know. Sticky situation. Let's read Super Chats. It is time for Super Chats. Danker Supreme. Oh, if you haven't already, smash the like button and subscribe.

Smash the like button and subscribe. If only we could have representatives that knew what to do and share this video guys I'm sorry for interrupting no George you go no I think maybe what we need is a robot that just tells us

how to live our lives or advises us how to live our lives no mandates yes the deep mind Ian make corn I don't want to make corn

make corn Lydia can you show everybody the spinning plant yes you can thank you there he is doesn't it look like very cinematic

what should we do why does it look so good I don't know it looks prettier than i do holy cow very cinematic good cameras huh i love it let's read super chats danker supreme says crowder just released a vid today about how 170 000 votes in detroit have no registered voters to match with them some districts have literally no voters registered, but thousands of votes. It's between 25 and 30 minutes in. He starts talking about it. We better get some, I don't know,

something's got to be done. JGP says, a rose for the beautiful Lydia. Also, what are the future plans for this podcast? Plans to expand with many businesses

being shut down. Great commentators like you could hire, like me, people who lost jobs from COVID. I mean, the future plans for the show is I do too much work already, so sitting down, turn the cameras on Commentators like you could hire, like me, people who lost jobs from COVID. I mean, the future plans for the show is I do too much work already. So sitting down, turn the cameras on and talking about stuff is about like perfect.

Yeah. But there are plans for some kind of news venture so long as people can work on their own. But we'll see. When COVID first started, like when the lockdowns first started, revenue dropped dramatically like 60-something percent, like across the board. Because a lot of the revenue on YouTube and Facebook is from small businesses in nearby areas. And when they all stopped advertising because they're gone, revenue just went gone. Yep. Scott Turner says, the magnet spinning is actually terrible for the plant.

Let it spin too long and it will puke. Oh, i'm not i'm not sure the succulent can puke i don't think you can dylan smith says this is for g prime 85 seeing art that goes against the left where a lot of artists reside gives me hope keep it up bud oh thank you there you go man you know it's funny i don't intentionally like i i would have and will make fun of pretty much anybody. It's just I don't see any jokes going in the the opposite direction. I see a lot of people making fun of the right. And I have always said I'm moderate. I'm pretty center ish. I just want there to be balance. So it's like, oh, I've made Trump comics, comics like trump punchline comics where it's like a silly you know he's getting into his robot suit or something like that or he makes a funny face that was funny i sell a t-shirt where he's making like this uh face and he's like bigly something like that yeah it's funny you know we're it's just i i want there to be balance i i wish i could make fun of the right as much as the left, but I just don't see.

There's a massive vacuum. Right. And it just doesn't feel right. The left is like, Donald Trump's orange and has small hands and they high five each other. That's not a joke. Right. It's just a tribal signifier. Yeah.

Yay, we all clap together. So making the comic you did where there's a little tiny Trump being lowered into the mech suit and his arms are all tiny and he looks all looks all serious but he has no neck yeah it was brilliant there's also something more to it than that i think this is just a little theory of mine i think he has a tendency like deep in his character i think he wants i'm not going to say like he's like a little person on the inside but like but no i think he has a thing in his head where he wants everyone to like him like he'll, he'll do anything. And the joke being that like, he's just this guy with a little ego.

Maybe it's like he gets into his big suit and he's like, I'm a big, tough guy. Maybe there's more to it subconsciously of like, he, I see him as the kind of guy who he wants to be liked by everyone. It bothers him that he's not. And he wants to pretty much he,

he will, that's the kind of guy i would want as a president is a guy who will earn my vote i i feel like he'll work extra hard to make me like him i he did he did right off the left at a certain point but if they if they if they just praised him and and kissed up to him he would have given a little bit he would have given he banned bump stocks And the right got furious. But he was like, the left is being nice to me, so I'll work with him. He's the kind of person, I think, that just... He lives for it.

He wants people to hate him. And then he converts them. And it's like nectar to him. The more people are angry at him, and then he flips them to like him, it's like, this is the juice. Like, maybe if you were a little kid and you were bullied, and then... I mean, in a silly way, let's put it like this. People gave me a hard time as a cartoonist, right? But now I'm here sitting and talking to all these people.

For me, it's like this feeling of like, oh, I told you so. You jerks. You were mean to me. And now look where I am. I've proven it. Right. So maybe for him, it's the same thing. Like, he wants, he doesn't want people to hate

him but if he can just flip them right so it seems that psychologically he's got that thing in his head where he wants to work hard for that's the kind of guy i want uh leading something let's play i just feel like that would make a for a better leader than a guy that'll just like do as he's told yeah i don't know. Kenneth Peterson says, hear me out. LOL. Trump versus Biden in a ring. Winner takes all Joe Rogan referees. Come on.

But we know Trump would win like no joke. Yeah. I don't know. But what if they pulled out their true forms? Yeah. So you got Trump in his robot suit and then monster Biden. Monster Biden. Who wins?

I don't know. Fail son says, have you looked into the, the ash conformity experiment? I think this is the method that the media is using to get people to give in and fall in line. I look it up. Patrick Winter says they should hand recount the whole country and see where Biden really stands. Yes.

If you want Trump, if you want Trump to lose, you want you want that recount. Right. Because Trump's stealing the election. That's right. That's right. That's right. Peter Parker says, did you see how happy the reporters were to talk to President-elect Biden today, saying things like it's an honor to speak with you today? They all they they almost were bowing to him. Yeah.

Yep. DJ White says, what if all of this is just one big make a wish request for Joe Biden? Everyone knows how long he has wanted to be president, and we all know he is on his way off this rock sooner rather than later. No, because Hillary would have been elected. What if 2016 was her like, you know, her make a wish? And they tried. It was so obvious. The weirdest thing about the Hillary election was that the Democratic primary was nothing.

It was no one. It was like Martin O'Malley. Who was the other guy? Lincoln Chafee. Was that who it was back then? I don nothing. It was no one. It was like Martin O'Malley. Who was the other guy? Lincoln Chafee? Was that who it was back then? I don't remember. 2016, yeah. Yeah, she had like no one running against her in the Democratic primary.

It was weird. There was like no one. Who could, really? But it was obvious she was going to be the only one up there, and they were going to prop her up, and then Bernie came along, and, well, they didn't like that very much. Oh my goodness, Bernie.

Gerald Herbert says, New suits in Georgia to delay certification. Still not written in stone for Joe. They're delaying for Dominion, which could seal the deal for 45th. If Trump freezes three states with an injunction, he wins. It's over. That's it. He doesn't need to win the states. He just needs to stop them from certifying so that Joe Biden doesn't have 270. And then the House delegations vote for Trump. That's's it it's actually not that far-fetched

it's just an issue of will the supreme court intervene if the state courts and the lower courts don't let's see asperger's adulthood says with two presidents the cry of not my president would have a lot more meaning yeah that's true reagan lodge says shout out to george alphabetopolis there you go what's up reagan it's yeah it's uh i've been called every name in the book galapagos galapagos applesauce it's just greek i'm sorry it's just greek yeah just plain old greek and actually as far as greek go, it's very mild. Yeah, it is. It's only five syllables, right?

Yeah, five. That's very easy. XD Interactive says, that is how they are going to attack the Tenth Amendment. First, that gives them the power to go after the rest of Nation One. With the Tenth Amendment. That power is not granted to the federal government or reserved for the states. Something like that, right? Yes. That sounds nice my favorite yep jay everett says they called georgia

for biden again 117 says hey tim do you think elections should be staff guarded and maintained by the national guard as opposed to volunteers i mean they literally do almost nothing all month maybe i don't know rudy rabbit says this one's for ian keep doing you bud i like you thank you cory blair says tim right now look up executive order 13848 this is about foreign interference interference in u.s elections dominion in canada sidle is in spain ovum funds sidle the eo is huge the crack and possibly segment on this eo asap yeah there's not a whole lot there that a lot of people keep bringing up this executive order that Trump has over foreign election interference. And then they make reference to like, oh, but Dominion is based in Canada. It's like, theoretically, Trump could try and enact some crazy move using the – it allows him to sanction people.

Basically, it allows him to issue sanctions for people who interfere in elections. So I really don't see, like, I don't know. I read through it and I just didn't understand what the hubbub was. Gen Z says,

Governor Wolf making ammo illegal and making civilian police. Wait, what? Look up Pennsylvania HB 2957. Lewis Shanker says, Hey Tim, I'm a big fan of your work. I just launched a new 501c4, the Academic Accountability

Institute, to allow every student nationwide to anonymously restream their online classes to a decentralized blockchain-supported video hosting site, GameChanger. Interesting. That sounds awesome. Eve Welcome says, Will of the People is inspirational. Makes me want to learn guitar. The media really

are the high priests of wokeism. Everything is clear now. If you you haven't already check out my original music video and song will of the people it's more like a short film that tells a story you should really check it out it's on this channel but you can just search youtube for will of the people tim cast and uh and give it a listen it's about four minutes long if you had some advice for them to learn guitar what chords would you suggest they practice um like the easiest chords probably like E minor and a just two fingers, you know, super easy.

Yeah. I like D C G. Those are my first three. D is really good. But yeah, E E E minor and a are just your two fingers. So it's like calluses built up. You got anything?

Yeah. My advice for anyone who wants to learn guitar is think about the songs you want to learn how to play and then learn how to play them. I guess I was lucky though. Cause I learned how to read music when I was really little, and then I just totally forgot because I didn't care. And then I learned how to read tabs because tabs were super easy and simplified ways of reading guitar music. You know? Yeah. OMG Jimmy Boy says, finally something Ian and I agree with.

Not concerned. Give this to Ian, Tim. He deserves it. Give me. All right. What'd you agree with me with, though? The whole conversation about? I guess.

Redundancy? I don't know. I think you're kind of right about that. I kind of agree. Mark Conway says, love what you're doing. Always great to see a Chicago and do well. I think the elected officials are overestimating people following these lockdowns. Several restaurants in my area are staying open, and local law has stated they are not going to stop them.

Yeah, that's a big thing. I think we might see open defiance, serious open defiance. Well, we're already kind of seeing that in Orange County. That's something that I saw actually during the show. Orange County Sheriff is like, we're not really going to enforce this stuff. We have other more important stuff to look at. But that is law enforcement. But I think like regular people are going to be like, shut up.

Oh, yeah, for sure. Just like Thanksgiving is going to do it. Spirit of our nation. Yeah. Civil disobedience. Yeah, man. We don't like being told what to do. And I think that's the most American and healthy thing that we could do as a people.

Yep. I think you're right. Without violence. Yeah. I do not support that at all. Theft. Don't do it. It makes you look stupid and wrong.

And it only undermines your position. Exactly. Interesting. There's no name on this it's just an m tim have you seen matt brainard's interview with jack murphy matt identified over 20 000 people in georgia who no longer meet residency requirements to be able to vote wow troy bruce references the uh the votes from steven crowder again so that's definitely disconcerting to say the least cory's story says lydia thank you for introducing me to akira the dawn meaning wave has been an amazing remedy for this year and i can feel it actively reprogramming myself for the better please have him on wonderful i would love to we will we will uh sort through that sean brown says have y'all seen the video what are white people more superior at

it's still up and it's very racist y'all should check it out it got ratioed michael conaway says reddit kills free speech the tyranny of the majority you know yeah those down votes that's kind of english shooter 13 says i am so sick of people suggesting changes to our government who don't understand its function to begin with uh-oh i wonder if he's talking about me probably just kidding he probably is barbie says i think the house and senate should be like jury duty you go you serve you get five dollars a day you go home you can't make it a career tim you're awesome thanks for keeping it real that's called demarchy demarchy is uh government at random so basically when everyone turns 18 and they get their driver's license, they also sign up for civic duty,

which could be jury duty or administrative or legislative duty. And then one day you get a letter in the mail and it's like, I got Congress duty. It's like, okay, so for the next three months,

I got to go down to D.C. and we're going to review bills. And I don't know if it was actually a good idea, but the general ideas behind it are that because you have limited power, gain nothing from it people are scared to like openly defy their fellow neighbors because they know they're going to be out right away with nothing and so it's basically if i go in and then some lobbyist tries to give me a kickback or

whatever people are going to know because i'm just some dude who like works at a local cafe if i start driving around you know a brand new sports car people are going to be like yo what's up so it's like you go back to your regular life so soon you don't have millions of dollars you don't have influence there's no influence peddling there's no fundraising none of that it's quite literally you're walking your dog one day you're a dog groomer for your job and then you get a notice that you're now the senator for the next three months and you could pay like a hundred thousand dollars a salary over three months like you could pay them well to do that so i think i think it would yeah comparable to the salaries they have now but for three month period so you'd be like some people might be like yes yeah gonna

get some good cash especially during months covid stuff like this that'd be but because there's no influence peddling beforehand to get in like you've got people who are being lobbied and they're like we're gonna we're gonna fund this pack to help you get re-elected but we want to see favors you wouldn't have that none of that because they wouldn't know who's about to become who's who's coming in to get sworn in you would just get your notification and there would be even a selection pool probably where you get a notification saying you got to serve in congress but before you do they ask you like certain questions and screen you and then like there could be lawyers from each party or whatever challenging whether or not you can actually be on congress and then you might say something like i disagree with that law and i'm

like okay well when we move to disqualify this person and then there would be a judge that'd be cool like the supreme court could get involved well i just a federal court probably but uh yeah maybe because it would be in like it's a dc. I don't know if democracy actually would work very well. There's probably a whole bunch of problems with it. You know what I mean? So whatever. Well, states were a great Petri dish to see if these ideas work out. If some states implemented and it works, well, maybe other states can do it and then it can butterfly flag.

I mean, I love the idea of states experimenting with certain things. Like even New Jersey just passed the marijuana thing. Or rank choice voting. Like Maine and Alaska, I think. Let them experiment. That's fine. I love the idea of different states trying different things. And if you like the way a certain state governs itself, you can move there and it's like I'm among my people. I feel like I'm among my people.

I love that idea. I don't like the idea of the federal government being so strong that it's affecting all the states all the time. I love that idea. idea of uh maybe we shouldn't make these like big changes that affect all 50 states all at once like let the states decide more i love that idea very conservative jonathan hall says humans are flawed in everything we do everything we make there is always flaws but i believe our current system is is the better in regard to taking that into account into account and before someone says then we make an ai a humans made it. Lewis T. says Crowder read verbatim her green new deal and that video was banned.

Wow. That's amazing. Oh, it's got a super chat jump. Thanks, YouTube. I love it when they do that. Oh, all over the place. Sharon Ann Hill. Tim, I'm a long time viewer and subscriber of your channel. Keep the great work. Thank you very much, Sharon.

I appreciate it. Paul McGrath says, new title, The Last Great American Talk Show. Is that it? I don't know. Yes. This show is like people talking about stuff, and that's about it. I try to be as crazy as possible. Yeah, I think it's funny that there's an assumption that when Ian and I have an argument, that's

kind of the point. You know what I mean? Ian's supposed to- an argument or kind of like it's like that's that's kind of the point you know what I mean like Ian somebody can't leave the room it's true when we're having dinner she'd be like peace guys no but like how dumb would the show be if it was constantly like just you were just like you're right Tim about everything you say and I'm not gonna argue with you at any capacity

I got so I want to hear more about you George I got so passionate I want to hear a little bit more about your story. Yeah. I know we're in the middle of Super Chats. Talking sounds great as opposed to throwing fists. I love that idea. We should explore that more.

Oh, did you actually mean that? You want me to talk more? Yeah, like what's your middle name? I don't have one. Really? Really. Is that a Greek thing? You know, I don't know. Do you enjoy grape leaves?

No, I don't. I love those things it's like 20 questions let's see um do i like souvlaki yes yeah what's your favorite greek food uh i can't answer that because that's too controversial among my people it's all awesome there was a yes mike cernovich likes to tweet ask me anything and so i saw that once and i tweeted i'm having water pressure issues in my bathroom sink one day you know just earlier it was working fairly well but now when i turn it on it kind of comes out in a trickle is there a way i can remedy this and then i actually got a ton of

responses from other people yeah and they were right they were like take off the aerator and you'll probably find a jam and i was like oh wow there was stuff jammed in there look at that it's crazy but uh mike didn't give me a good answer boo Boo. But he said ask anything. And so I did. I was like, I gotta fix the water pressure from the bathroom sink, man. Jerk. I know, right? No, he tried. He suggested Drano or something, but I guess he didn't understand it was coming from the faucet, not in the drain. But it turned out we actually had a, the water softener filter broke. And so these little water softener beads were spraying everywhere. It was awful. The worst thing ever. We had to get the water softener filter broke and so these little water softener beads were spraying it was awful yeah the worst thing ever way to get the whole system purged horrible geez anyway

george yes sir tell me about your website uh my website has been abandoned for a long time i don't maintain it uh i actually am the most active on like twitter and uh instagram these days and i have a little YouTube channel. That's pretty much where I spend all my time these days. Where can I buy your t-shirts? Etsy. I have a shop, etsy.com slash studio NJ. All the links are in my Twitter bio.

Oh, very cool. Or my pinned tweet, I should say. Cool, cool. Yeah. Ooh. Hershey Schwartz says, you should have invited Harold Heshy Tishel. He is a gentleman that got arrested after they protested the lockdowns that you can get a little bit more about what's going on in Brooklyn and the Jewish community. Dude, that would be awesome.

I would love to have him. Somebody recommend him to me. Yeah, it might be the same person. I don't know how to reach out to that guy. So basically, the Hasidic community is being targeted by Cuomo, you know, with these lockdowns. It's nuts. There's videos of a cop, like, turning his camera on his phone and then like recording like to see through a window to like make sure they're not secretly practicing their religion that's crazy dude yeah these this is

new york has gone nuts cuomo is crazy man anton maxson says battling to the death for president sounds like the necromonger way from chronicles of riddick oh and by the way in regards to ian's executive order list comment trump signed one into law november 17th relation to hunter's laptop idk worth a read interesting thank you although panetta says you should make an alex jones comic for those walls you know i was gonna have back when uh chas was a thing uh the only way the government can fight Chaz is to airdrop Alex Jones in like a capsule. He comes down and he just starts like hulking through the streets, something like that. That'd be amazing. I like the one you have where they're trying to guillotine the Trump effigy.

And it bites the guillotine and that goes crazy. And then like they all run screaming. I love silly, stupid crap like that. And you know, they got mad at me. They're're like oh he's uh dog whistling support for trump dude it's up a trump puppet they actually did that to a trump puppet and i thought it'd be funny if it came to life and bit the guillotine and came to life fire fireworks were coming out of its hands and it said trump 2020 because that's what they had they had the fireworks joe biden firing lightning and vaporizing his audience it's fantastic it's one of the best i love it and all right i was firing force lightning from his hands i had i had a little note here i think

just for the sake for posterity let me just say like the humor thing humor is such a beautiful panacea to like our problems right. Everyone's taking things too seriously. Can I just draw something silly and we can just have a laugh at our leaders? Oh, this leader's dumb. This leader's dumb. Let's just have a little pressure release. And I feel like – so there's a lot of dark stuff going on in our heads. And maybe I was thinking that the pressure release valve is in the darkest place that you want to go into. It's like people are scared to go into the depths of their own mind. But it's like they're afraid to even learn about themselves. So I think what I'm trying to say, I guess, is have more mercy on comics creators my question is what horrifying and traumatic experience much must

you have uh uh uh gone through to draw a picture of joe biden with a shocked little girl and his giant monstrous mouth consuming her like what why what happened when i was a kid i read these books called scary stories to tell them about absolutely but you But you know, I was telling Lydia about this earlier. There's this artist named something, he's Polish, Bikinski. He drew the most horrifying images of like a hellscape post-World War II. I'm first, I just, I love dark drawings like that. But like, this is silly cartoons. This is nothing.

But like, being abled, I feel like somewhere in the human brain there's like some connection between horror and comedy like there's some elevated like spike of emotion where i want to cry and laugh and be scared at the same time like i'll watch a scary movie boo and then i'll laugh afterwards horror movies are funny they can be fun yeah there's there's something communal about like the catharsis of laughing at something horrifying so maybe there's something to this i you know i'm not like a crazy psychologist or anything but drawing a spooky comic with monsters i guess some people say like what i drew recently uh who is lightfoot coming at laurie lightfoot coming out of a turkey coming out of a turkey and and telling the pilgrims hey you're you're all under arrest. And it was extremely disturbing, I guess, for some people.

But it's like, it's so absurd. I was actually on the floor crying, laughing when I saw my own drawing. I'm like, I can't believe this came out of my hand. I can't believe I drew this. But that's what I felt so relieved afterwards. I was able to laugh at something that's actually horrific. The authoritarian of like, oh, you can't have family over for Thanksgiving. That's sad.

But I was able to laugh at how ridiculous it would be. It's like a Monty Python sketch, really. It's something they would have done. You're all under arrest. It's dumb. It's funny. Let's have a laugh and feel good about something that's actually pretty dark i feel like comics and comedy in general it fills this gap that people don't want to be upset and angry and in pain all the time comics maybe are part of the

pressure release algorithm i don't it helps i think maybe that's why the comics are popular i don't think they're anything special but maybe it's just it's good medicine for some people i guess i i wish there was more of it yeah humor and human sure have the same root right hum i mean it is what we are if we had not been able to have humor what else would we look at what happened with stand-up comedians they weren't able to even go on college campuses uh a couple years ago they they were scared of being canceled and they couldn't even tell certain jokes because the college students were all like, oh, you can't say a joke about that.

That's too serious or that's too dark. That's the point of comedy. You're supposed to go into these dark places and find something funny about it so that we can have a pressure release a little bit. Yes, this is something that paramedics and nurses and doctors talk a lot about soldiers a lot too they find dark humor right incredibly dark places and people

think that they're kind of crazy but you have to laugh or you will cry and you'll be useless yes we got a super chat from jimmy rustler he says tim it's not the right that will be calling for the police right or wrong a 17 year old kid with one rifle and no reload survived a mob what happens when the left meets 20 of them when they hit them in their own suburbs? The right seems to think that if it comes to an actual civil war, they'll win. And they don't realize they will lose instantly. The right will lose any civil war immediately. I'm exaggerating a little bit.

But what will happen is in the event there's any kind of coup or you know trump might win or whatever the internet's gonna go down youtube facebook twitter are gonna be like we're shutting things down for this or that reason remember when twitter locked all the accounts of verified users yes only verified users it's gonna be something like that like oh no some attack is happening quick turn on cnn communication lines will go down and the only opportunity for regular people is going to be there like alerts or it's going to be cnn i will say however to counter that donald trump created the presidential alert system remember that yeah so trump can like literally text every phone in the country so i don't know

why but he made sure he had the ability to have a direct line of communication to the people that's a bad idea so when i say that you know the right would lose instantly i'm obviously exaggerating the point i'm trying to make is don't underestimate the left's control of technological institutions yeah google are you gonna say something george i know i was just gonna say even if you quote unquote win you may lose in the long run um i mean if a civil war actually started everyone loses period yeah there's no there's no coming out of any kind of actual violent conflict up well that's not true the oligarchs if you're if you're like a dirt poor person and then everything falls apart and

you grab your posse and you go take over buildings that's what they did you know post-soviet countries so yeah there's that i guess i would imagine that wouldn't be sustainable, though. I agree with you. I don't think anyone would win. Not like the regular citizens, not us, not the people I know. It's like I notice a lot of people are scared of what's going to happen, but I sometimes wonder if they're more scared of who they are going to realize that they are. Like, let's say someone breaks into your house and then you have to fight them off. And then you realize, like, oh, shoot, I have your house and then you have to fight them off. And then you realize like, Oh shoot,

I have this dark impulse in me that wants to hurt someone. It's really scary to realize that you are this animal that can do really dark things. Like what happens in a case of a civil war? Like do I go into the streets and like hide in bushes and attack people? I don't want to do that, but people don't realize, man,

what it's like to be in a conflict. When there's actual war going around. Growing up in a city with high crime, people who grew up in Baltimore, St. Louis, or South Chicago probably have a better understanding than the majority of people in this country. Especially these progressive lefties

who come from well-to-do families. They think they want a revolution. Man, if a revolution actually started or they actually were standing in in egypt when the revolution was going on they'd be steamrolled they would be crying they'd be on curled up in the fetal position crying i'd watch a lot of videos of vietnam veterans giving like talking for an hour about their experience in the jungle sometimes it gets really really horrible and they were young too a lot of them the navy corpsman that saved like dude there'd be six of them walking in a line and the first guy always goes down immediately when the gunfire starts the people running out first purchase and like

it's chaotic and it happens in like 20 seconds and then it's done and like you're lucky if you still have your leg these people don't get it man like it's it's funny when there was a there was a video coming out of portland where somebody got hit in the leg with a rubber bullet and they started bleeding. It was like a light abrasion. And then the LARPing medics were like, we need a tourniquet. And they literally put a tourniquet on this dude's leg. And he's like, no, I don't want to lose my leg. I'm like, we got to stop the bleeding, man.

I'm like, the dude got an abrasion from a rubber bullet. It's like, wipe it off. It's like, dude, I've been skating and I've whacked my shin like doing a tray flip and blood just pours out for an hour. I was skating with Adam and he hit his ankle and his whole sock was soaked. And he just kept skating. And he's like, oh, I just hit it, bleeds. But then you have

some dude, it's like a light bleed and they put a tourniquet on it. These people are playing a game they do not understand. And the only reason they keep coming on it these people are playing a game they do not understand and the only reason they keep coming out is the cops are playing with with kid with kid gloves if the cops actually went out and wanted to hurt people they would they don't they don't want to hurt people and so because of that you get these people like oh i hit with a rubber bullet and they laugh about it it's fun and they come out again they keep doing it they want to pretend like they contributed

like in the 60s you had the hippie movement so we changed the world hey guys i'm going to tell my grandchildren about the time where i was in the middle of a riot and uh i got hit with a rubber bullet and i was bleeding that one time that was crazy i changed the world that day they want they want to feel like they're a part of something they're bored i hate this you can look at the demographics of what makes up a riot group there's actual ideologues there are people who are just bored and want to feel like they're part of something then you get the real psychos who just want to do some crime and blend back into the group anonymously there's all kinds of this weird makeup of like all kinds of people who just want to be part of the action and when you get a mob of people they say a mob of people's like the intelligence is like a two-year-old they

one person says let's go this way the whole crowd follows them like wonderful 101 yeah they just this is a this is something i talk about when it comes to marches street marches and protests in new york city it's anybody who wants to can change the direction of the crowd so this has happened a lot where there was a protest against police brutality and the occupy wall street people showed up and all you have to do is walk in front of the crowd and turn. And it happens. They see you turn and they follow you. And then all of a sudden the whole crowd just turns. It's an organism, man.

Yeah. It's really scary. I call it the Grand Falloon. It's like a mass of flesh that's just moving and rolling like a Katamari. I'm talking in game terms. I love that game. Katamari Damacy. Yeah.

It's a roll of people that are just like following hey let's go find some action over here they're not thinking critically they're not able to think critically they don't and what's scariest is they won't listen to reason they can't they're just thinking as an organism there's something weird in the human mind that like once they start linking up and networking thinking as like one organism the human mind it's like it's really creepy and gross and scary you can't reason with them the only not good i'm sorry the only way out of that situation is not to be there in the first place ruben cruz says george did you go to east lee county high east lee count i don't know where that is unfortunately so then you did not. No, I'm sorry.

So a lot of people are bringing up the Crowder thing again. So you guys should check out what Crowder was talking about. Apparently votes with no registered voters. Interesting. Ross Brimmer says, Article 5 Convention of the States to get term limits is in place. Mark Levin wrote a book on it. Interesting.

LKA says, Tim, I disagree because people on the right and preppers know how to use ham radio. That's true. Oh, yeah. I was exaggerating. I was just trying to, like, make a—I was trying to, you know, kind of just, like, shock the people on the right to be like, listen, I'm going to say something. But, you know, because I often hear tweets and see posts where they're, like, very sure of themselves. Never underestimate your opponents. We don't want war.

We don't want conflict. None of that should happen. And hopefully it's all just big talk. And in the end, everything just simmers down but i gotta say man it's like earlier you know two three years ago when i was reading these articles from the atlantic that said civil war was coming like no no joke like it was i think it was the atlantic talked about the potential for civil war saying it was really high probability security uh um consultants were talking about what they were saying in the u.S. with street violence.

And then everyone said Tim was crazy to talk about it. We're literally at a point right now where President Trump is refusing to concede, going through legal challenges, but the media is bypassing the constitutional process to declare Joe Biden the winner. We are primed for the perfect, like, you could not have a more perfect scenario to ignite a civil war. No joke. Two people declaring themselves the president? Yeah.

And then not only that, but you had the war games from the Democrats where John Podesta said, it is better for Joe Biden to have the West Coast secede from the Union than to concede to Trump. So it's like all of these weird things have lined up, and it's worse than it's ever been. So I'm not saying it's going to happen. I don't know. I'm not a psychic. But how do you ignore all of these different things and then be like nothing's happening nothing's going on i fear that the only way to really because let's say there's a civil war that happens in the way that

you're describing it would be little cells and pockets scattered throughout the whole country and the only counter to that is increased surveillance, which frightens me even more than open civil war. When we talk about like Patriot Act, stuff like that, illegal search and seizure. The only way to really know intelligence-wise what these groups are going to be doing is to spy on everybody all the time. There's, again, the chess game. We're way too far into this chess game where there's no way out of this everybody should they're not going to cool off it's not going to happen i don't know what's going to happen i got a feeling that people love trump and they they don't hate biden so if

biden wins the people that support trump aren't going to like go against him whereas the people that are on biden's side hate trump so trump wins they would go crazy yeah so i think if biden wins which it seems like is gonna happen the people are just gonna suck it up and yep yep conservatives gonna be like ah put the country first yeah but like joe biden his hit osterholm is saying national lockdown and biden's like well i'll do it the scientists say it's like okay well then I'll do it. The scientists say it's like, okay, well then, you know, that's,

that's, that's, that's it. Who knows what kind of stuff he'll do behind the scenes and his people enrich himself and his family. Well, I mean, what kind of,

uh, fortifications will they do behind the scenes that we won't know about until, until they get challenged again, like all the crazy voting stuff. We never heard of dominion before this year. You know, I'm sure they've been planning stuff like this for years. as uh and and if you look at a lot of the accusations

about like evidence to suggest that trump or that biden cheated or whatever notably like uh the bellwether towns that you know 99 of the time whenever they vote for a president the president wins this time it's like they it was like 82 percent failure rate. So whereas like for for 100 years, it's like their success rate was like 90 to 100 percent. But this time it was 18 percent success. And everyone's like, that doesn't make sense. Like, how does a nominee like that happen? And there's some people who just will see that and they'll say, I refuse to believe that there's an explanation for that outside of cheating. You know, don't jump to conclusions.

No, I think for sure but that is definitely weird but there's a lot of weird things and so my issue is when you have these sworn affidavits saying there's fraud literally outright saying it like in georgia we do now have five when you have these matt brainard anomalies it's like uh dude we have widespread irregularity i'm not going to say fraud because you have to prove someone intentionally did a thing but something's not right no and the democrats are saying don't look behind the curtain i'm like i don't trust anyone who says don't look over here don't ask questions that's the most suspicious thing in the world to me is when you tell me i'm not allowed don't look behind that curtain over there oh what's behind that curtain that you don't want

me to see my dog is missing do you know where he is no rough rough i just heard a bark from behind that curtain don't look over there you heard nothing but i'm hearing barking there's no evidence of it there's no there's no widespread evidence of a missing dog oh my goodness yeah they used a canadian proprietary computer software yep so weird canadians yeah of course i love canada but it's not an American product. And they don't use it in Canada. In Canada, they do paper ballots. Yeah, how about that?

Well, anyway, George. Yes, sir. Thank you so much for hanging out. Hey, man. It's one of the greatest honors of my life to be here. Thank you. Oh, dude, we got your art all over the walls in this place? It's downstairs and upstairs. Surreal.

Surreal. You drew hilarious comics and pictures, man. Crazy. It's great. Joe Biden eating kids. There's like several of them. I actually draw more stuff than that. You draw great stuff.

The Hillary Clinton face with like the weird bug eyes. Please look at my other stuff too, guys. He has other stuff as well. I'm not actually a disturbed person. He's not. He's really not. We have a lot of room for art on the walls in this building. Yeah, man.

I'd be honored anytime. Oh, yeah. There was one that I really wanted was basically if you could do it at some point. Maybe not. But my idea was Brian Stelter. And he's got an apron on and a broom. And he's trying to clean. But he's all frustrated and frazzled because there's little tiny gnomish Vladimir Putins

running around causing mischief and knocking over a vase. And he's like,'s like he's everywhere little potence I want to mural the skate park if you ever want to be involved with something like that that'd be awesome that's what I want that's like hard physical painting

for like a long time my Sistine Chapel just get a bunch of painters from around the world to come help us yeah like a giant monster Joeiden like this like looming down at you oh my god how about uh no i don't want joe biden what do they do are they called decals where you uh paint a thing and print it and put it on the ceiling yeah uh i don't like banksy style i don't know like on the bottom of a skateboard right there's a design yeah it's like a decal i don't know anything about skateboard yeah well so it's they they silk screen skateboards.

Yeah, something like that. I mean, probably bigger companies do something different. But yeah, you're just like, I'll add that to my Etsy story. Right on. Well, ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't already, smash the like button and subscribe. Hit the notification bell. We are live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. And you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, Parler, at TimCast.

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I like that. Well, we definitely want to have more people on to talk about crazier stuff, too. Because what people don't realize, politics was not... We were talking about Sonic the Hedgehog and a bunch of other stuff earlier but politics dominated because this election's been crazy and then maybe this will become like the civil war dispatch i'm half kidding by the way only half which is scary right but uh yeah hopefully we can bring in you know what i really want to bring in so i'm going to talk about dmt i know it's so cliche isn't it joe rogan on the wall it's everywhere uh no but like an actual researcher but also an expert expert on like near-death experiences.

Yeah. We've been trying to. It's really hard to get like legit academics because they're like, I'm not a public figure and I don't want to go on someone's show. So actually getting those people is rough. But it'd be so cool to have like, you know, that kind of conversation. That story freaked me out with the people in different rooms and one person yawns and they all-

Yeah, those Mythbusters. That was weird. That was the Alex Jones episode, wasn't it? Yeah. I don't remember they were inwn. Yeah, those Mythbusters. That was weird. That was the Alex Jones episode, wasn't it? Yeah. I don't remember they were in different rooms. Yeah,

Mythbusters, they put, they're like, I don't want to call, we'll call them phone booths. They're like booths and they had all the people in them and then one person yawned

and then people started yawning. Mirror neurons. I think, I think that's what happened. I don't know. It's been like 20 something years. I'm telling you. Dude,

your brains are electric. Yeah. You have electromagnetic fields. Don't forget to follow at Sour Patch Lids as well. L-Y-D-S. On which platform? On Twitter.

Just Twitter. That's all I got. That's all I do. And I guess... You have a nice Instagram page too. Shout out to Lydia's Instagram. Oh, thank you. What's your Instagram?

Yeah, it's ultraviolet with a four instead of an A. That's why I don't share it. Oh, okay. Cute cat pics. Cats. We will be back tomorrow at 8 p.m.

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