Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #171 - Kyle Rittenhouse RELEASED, Weird SCOTUS Move Has Rumors Of Trump, Hotep Jesus Joins

Episode Date: November 21, 2020

Tim, Ian, Lydia and guest and commentator Hotep Jesus (@HotepJesus on YouTube, Twitter) sit down to discuss the breaking news of the evening (Kyle Rittenhouse's release) and quickly diverge into other topics like whether Republicans are diverse, whether the founding fathers care about us today, and whether freedom or safety is more important.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So we got some crazy news, but we got some breaking news. I guess Kyle Rittenhouse has been released on bail. And we've got some, we got the gist of that story. I guess he's out. He's not proven not guilty or anything like that, but he's out on bail. And we learned about his gun and like the weird, he bought a gun with a COVID check or something like that. So we'll talk about that.

We got some other weird stories. So apparently, I don't know if this is weird at all. It might be totally normal, but people are kind of spreading rumors because there's been new Supreme Court assignments as of today for the circuits. And Amy Coney Barrett was basically placed in charge of Wisconsin. And Brett Kavanaugh is now in charge of Pennsylvania, which is very convenient for Donald Trump. So we'll talk about all this. Keep the intro short this time, but we're joined by the one and only Hotep Jesus. Tim Cass. How's it going, man? Mr. Tim Pool. Keep the intro short this time, but we're joined by the one and only Hotep Jesus. Tim Cass.

How's it going, man? Mr. Tim Pool. What up? Life is good, man. Thank you for having me. I appreciate you. Thanks for coming, man. I made sure.

I let them hear that in the mic. Brought you a beanie, man. Oh, snap. You brought me a beanie. Hotep Nation beanie. Nice. Oh, my gosh. That's amazing.

I couldn't let you walk around this earth and not have an alternative beanie correct and and and here's a hotel nation oh cool lanyard yeah right on man wow thanks dude no one's ever has anybody given me something on the show like i don't think so wow super awesome hotel nation comes bearing gifts yeah i love it right on dude so uh yeah what's up what um we're gonna so we got a lot to talk about for sure yeah your friend over here say your name yeah ian crossland in crossland thank you pleasure to meet you too man you asked me what does hotep mean yeah okay so i'm gonna tell you so hotep is an ancient metanetal word or ancient commission or ancient egyptian this is the language they spoke in ancient egypt And Hotep meant peace

or satisfaction to be at rest. And there's like nine other definitions. So where should we start the story? Okay, how did I become Hotep Jesus? Let's just get this knocked out the way now.

So right around the time that Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin, and all those guys get murdered, right? There became this like clear divide between the black left

and us. At this time, this is like- Is between the black left and us. At this time, this is like us, the hotep or what? Hoteps. Yes. At this time, I didn't know what a conservative was, let alone a black conservative. So I found out about conservatives. I was like, oh, they got black conservatives. Wow. So it became hotep was a pejorative. It became like a word of slander. Hoteps can loosely be described as the conservative arm of the black community. Right. Interesting. We're so-called the consciousness of the black community. They kind of push us to the side and lambast us and we're the stepchildren.

But we're the ones that give give them their consciousness. That word melanin that they love to run around with. Yeah. Our ancestors, our hotep ancestors were the one that put that on their desk. We're the ones that placed that memorandum there. So, yeah, so they made it a pejorative. And then I was at the time I had went through a real spiritual awakening. So I was speaking,

I was tweeting very spiritually and some troll was like, what do you think you are? Some sort of hotel Jesus. I was like, Dan, that has a ring to it. I do. Yeah. So I was like, what do you think you are? Some sort of hotep Jesus. I was like, Dan, that has a ring to it. Yes, I do.

Yeah. So I was like, you know what? Yeah, I do think I'm hotep Jesus. And then the star was born. Right on. Cool.

Excellent. So, uh, we're also hanging out with Ian, of course. Yes. Hello. Ladies,

I'm here as well. And, uh, yeah, make sure you subscribe at the like button at the notification bell shows live on Friday at 8 PM. But let's, let's,

let's jump right into it. That's interesting. You're talking about, like, the Black Lives Matter stuff. Like, Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin was the start of what started Black Lives Matter. So with this breaking news we got, let's just do the breaking news first because this is particularly relevant. Kyle Rittenhouse released from Kenosha County Jail after Bond posted. It's pretty straightforward. That's the story, right?

So, you know. But there's little details. They say that the teen was fatally charged with shooting two protesters in Kenosha. Many of you probably know about this. This was in Wisconsin.

He is no longer in custody at the Kenosha County Jail. A spokesperson for the sheriff said in a statement, Kenosha County prosecutors charged Rittenhouse of Antioch, Illinois with fatally shooting

Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber during a protest over a police shooting in August. They've also charged him with wounding a third man, Gage Grosskreutz. Rittenhouse faces multiple counts, including intentional homicide and illegally possessing a gun. His attorneys contend he was acting in self-defense. The case has been a rallying point for conservatives.

Yeah, yeah, we don't need that stuff. They say in a phone interview with The Washington Post, Rittenhouse revealed the gun he used in the shooting was purchased using money he received from an unemployment check during the coronavirus pandemic basically his covid stimulus check used to buy a gun smart man rittenhouse i'd say i mean didn't he's in a hot he's in hot water right now but rittenhouse 17 could not legally purchase the weapon himself so he gave the money to a friend to buy it for him according to both rittenhouse and police reports that's crazy that's messed up he says I got my twelve hundred dollars from the coronavirus Illinois unemployment because I was on furlough from the YMCA I got my first unemployment check so I was like oh I'll use it to buy it he told the post prosecutors have charged a Wisconsin man

was supplying the gun that's crazy in his interview Rittenhouse said he doesn't regret having the gun that night saying I had to protect myself I would have died that night if I didn't so man I mean that's the breaking news right off the bat i'd be interested to hear what you think about kyle rittenhouse i like kyle rittenhouse he's a hero wow he's an american hero it's a kid who took a stimulus check and bought guns yeah but he wasn't legally allowed to and someone did it illegally for him that's not cool that's unconstitutional to put an age on how old you can be to buy guns and it's unconstitutional there was a something recently came out i can't remember exactly what it was but they said that there's a different like

the current supreme court is going to interpret 2a very differently i can't remember who i was talking to about this sure but they were like we might start seeing a bunch of changes to uh these laws that we got you know in california they ruled i think the ninth circuit ruled that uh magazine size you can't restrict that that's a violation of second amendment so we'll see if that you know hits the rest of the country yes sticks but there was something like somebody was telling me i can't remember who they said that it's likely that with the supreme court we're going to start seeing the nitpicking of all these laws like oh this thing can't be used but that thing can't be used. That's going to go away.

Yeah. Speaking of unconstitutional. The inevitability of communism. Is that what you think? It's the slithering dragon. It's the snake. And it just finds its way into your backyard and bites your child when you're not looking. It's what it does. They're trying to bite us right now with the vaccine they're trying to take our guns away they're trying to take our

speech away that's what communism does man you know but uh karen house is a hero in my eyes he stood up for what he believed in and looking at the video footage of the shooting i didn't see a guy purposely trying to murder somebody i saw somebody running for his life saying he was going to the cops saying he was going to the cops indeed and there was a bit of a verbal skirmish at the gas station prior to and one of the gentlemen who got his wig split he uh said go ahead shoot me mfr this is what one of those gentlemen who got his wig split, he said, go ahead, shoot me, MF-er. This is what one of those guys said. I think that was Rosenbaum, wasn't it?

Yes. Yeah. And then he chased after him. Then he chased after him and he got exactly what he asked for, which is unfortunate. It's unfortunate to have anybody lose their life over this political divide that the media has created. So, you know, shouts go to his family and condolences to them. I just find it ironic that he asked for it and he got it. You know, God speaks in mysterious ways.

But Kyle Rittenhouse, I thought he was defending himself. I think so. I think that's clear. I think it's weird that they decided to do, like, the harshest possible charges imaginable to this kid. And then the media went nuts just lying about everything. Yeah, I heard them call them everything from like right wing to uh white supremacist white thank you white supremacist i'm

like he took out two other white dudes and the third guy that got shot was white it's it's it's it's just the it's the media game man and so i i talk to people all the time they have no idea what happened we had uh you know we had the We had the people that were actually on the ground covering it, the riot squad. Okay. So we had Shelby Talcott, Richie McGinnis. Who else is in that crew? Jorge Ventura. Jorge Ventura.

There was one other. No, I think it was those three. Those three. Yeah, yeah. They were actually there watching it all happen. And I also talked to, there's a bunch of people down there that were covering it. The rioters lit a dumpster on fire and tried pushing it into a gas station. And that's what started it all.

So then you get – there's a video of Kyle Rittenhouse running with a fire extinguisher. We don't know exactly. You have to talk to them who were on the ground. But basically, him and these dudes are trying to put these fires out. If they push a dumpster into a gas station, they blow it up. That's going to be real bad. But because he did that, they attacked him. And that's the stuff that the media doesn't talk about they just say you know facebook if you i guess if you praise him in any way facebook like they ban you or

something like that or suspend you super strict yeah i wouldn't be surprised if youtube comes after us over the way we're talking about it oh let me calm down let me calm down i mean look if it's if if it's true it's true and if you feel that way you feel that way it's i'm not gonna i'm not gonna lie i'm not going to lie. I'm not going to throw this kid under the bus because the media is threatening to ban me or social media says they'll ban me. We've got to tell people what really happened. Well, the only thing that I would add to this conversation is that a bunch of people agree with you, Hotep, because he raised $2 million for bail. That's crazy.

And I don't think that I came out of his parents' pocket. That came from people who really think that he was in the right. Did it, though? Did they fundraise for that? I think they crowdfunded it. Yeah, I truly believe that to be the case so what do you think about these riots man so you know like kind of segue away from just the specific car written house stuff we've had a year of all this all this riots things have kind of calmed down a little bit but i think it's gonna i think it'll light up again depending what happens with trump but just in the

context of you're saying you know the hotep came out of Black Lives Matter, there was like a split. So just your general thoughts, man. So I have to give you a history on Black Lives Matter. That'd be important. Yeah. So that's going to take us back to what's that city? Darren Sills. Ferguson.

Thank you. Ferguson. This is right outside of St. Louis, right? Yeah. It's part of the St. Louis County. All right. this is right outside of st louis right yeah yeah it's part of the st louis county all right so uh a brother by the name of darren sales is a community organizer out there and uh he was he was right there with mike brown's mom you know the night after we shot you know the whole nine

through the whole whole thing and uh the first night like i always tell people with these things the first night is usually very peaceful as people demonstrate and they're upset. They're marching. They're venting. Right. And then he said that he saw some white kids pop up and try to instigate with the police. They would pop up, throw stuff at the police and then disappear into the night. So we saw the precursor to Antifa, basically. Yeah. And I was telling people at the time that I was like, hey, you know, there's like people that are infiltrating these things.

So he did a expose on Black Lives Matter and he exposed them, talk about, you know, how they came down with the media. A lot of people were taking credit for his work and the organization that he did and got those people out in those streets. And then, you know, he's talking about those guys were cutting checks. They were sitting up in a house. Donations were coming in and none of it went to Ferguson. It all went to people's pockets.

And these big checks were coming to some of these organizers. So the organizers getting paid to just basically protest. But none of it went to the actual community. And mysteriously, he was murdered um so you know i just liked every time i talk about black lives matter in history i gotta shout out darren seals was he was he the dude they found him in the car or was that something yeah that's crazy story man yeah because i i was down there uh a few days after everything kicked off i was i was in and out as the court case was going on and then i remember hearing a lot of people were

pointing out that some of the OG activists were turning up dead. Some people were saying it was a grand conspiracy. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that happened to some people. Sure as hell looked like it. Yeah, I know. But that's tough, man. How do you prove something like that? You know, I don't touch stuff like that. That's not my job. I'm sure there's people out there that would risk their life to find out the truth. I think we understand what happened out there. I think a lot of us understand the truth of what happened to Darren Sales. But, you know, R.P. to Darren Sales, he was a soldier. He was a, you know, a true community leader. He gave back his own money in his own time to

the community. Very important black man. And if f anybody you know who came out to ferguson and stole money that was terrible that's just terrible people do that i got a quick i got a quick story for you man so i was down there i can't remember which night it was but riots erupted a bunch of people start running into i think it was a dollar store across the street i'm not sure smashing the windows and then a bunch of young uh a bunch of young dudes from ferguson linked arms in front of the liquor store like that's the one where michael brown went to to stop the rioting and then i walked i was i was standing right by there there's another journalist and this journalist from al jazeera asked these guys like what are you doing and they said the people riding and destroying our community don't live here they're coming from outside and they're destroying everything they're burning

down our buildings they're like we gotta we live here we work here these are our stores why are they doing this and then what do we get from antifa writing articles like in defense of looting yeah no joke they were that article became a book apparently and so i'm sitting there watching these guys beg like please don't destroy our home. And these other people come in, they're smashing up everything. And then these white upper class progressives defend the villains, the people destroying the community. Well, they're defending themselves. I always tell people anytime some of this stuff happens, you have to understand that day one is going to be looting. And that stuff is somewhat organic.

When you see the fire, that's usually white Antifa. You know what I mean? Like I always say, I always say, you know, black folks, we might be kleptomaniacs, but white folks is definitely pyromaniacs. That's my that's my running joke, you know. But when you see the fire usually that's antifa um and people try to identify that as like black lives matter like people say oh they're burning down their own neighborhood i'm like no that's paid protesters and antagonists that's bolshevik money dude they're they're they're like rich kids who are bored yeah and i i dude i'll tell you man. I know some people who've got some legit money. And it's not so much that the people I've met in these things are, I've never seen anybody who's paid to do anything like that. Right.

But I've met people who are well off and fund their friends to go out and do that. Indeed. Indeed. And that's exactly what we see happening here. And that's the problem with Black Lives Matter organization. Like my homie Wordsmith said, where money at where the money at there's some uh high profile activists people keep asking where's the money at yeah where are where's the money where did the money go over 100 million was raised i think in just one year alone so i know they got a big bad sitting somewhere that

money never makes it to the community that's what happens when you deal with slimy democrats socialists of artists you just don't mince words so you're right so like uh black lives matter was raising money through thousand currents do you know about that it's like they were raising money through what i think it's called thousand currents it's a it's a charity okay and so because black lives matter didn't have their own charity right these another but but then those donations are collected through act blue yeah the payment mechanism so you had a lot of people saying that the black lives matter was money would go was going straight to joe biden but it's not no but a percentage of all that black lives matter money goes to a fundraising platform for democrats so they take their fee right so it's not it's not direct cash being given to the democrats but it's funding partly

their their fundraising apparatus yeah i mean take five percent of 100 million whatever that is right i mean look look at look at uh if you look at the the the fine print act blue is the payment mechanism so we're not saying it's going directly but whatever act blue money makes off of per transaction is going to the democratic party it It's going to their ActBlue. I think it's another PAC or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, so this is crazy. A percentage of the money goes to their operations or whatever, right?

They use it to fund their operations. But they also have some kind of provision where if the organization doesn't collect it, then they can disperse it. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Yes. I saw that, too. That's in the fine print.

That's standard in a lot of these contracts with these fundraising. It makes sense. To be fair, it makes sense. Yeah. You can't just have money floating around doing nothing. Right. You got to do something with it. Yeah.

You got to put it to work. And then you have to tell people you're going to. Right. Right. Yeah. But again, where's the money? This has been the problem with the black community. I'm not going to go ahead and slander martin luther king like that on timcast tim pool's podcast but i mean um we've never was that happened back in the day too yeah man the whole the whole civil

rights movement was a was a big publicity stunt what yeah it kind of worked though didn't it yeah it worked to destroy us really Why do you think integration was infiltration? Interesting. Integration was infiltration. I go to the school of Thadde. The boy never met a black person until he was 20 years old? I didn't know that. That's crazy. Who is that? He was W.E.B. The boy, you know, one of the old heads from like late, late 1800s, early 1900s. He lived to a very old age, but father of socialism, sociology, black guy.

He's mixed. He's mixed. But, yeah yeah you know uh the integrationist really what happened was the integrationist wanted uh well let's talk about what the independent people wanted independent black folks said hey look there's money coming to from the government to white schools we want money for our schools and NAACP and all those sellouts came around and said, look, we'll fight for your cause if you agree to integrate. And they said, no, we don't want to integrate. We're cool with our schools. And they're like, nah, we're not going to support you unless

you integrate. So, you know, when people talk about they like to talk about Tulsa and they like to call it a massacre. It's not a massacre if you fight back. So Tulsa was not a massacre. It was definitely an attack on black property and black businesses and black life. But we fought back and Tulsa survived for 40 years after that attack. That was Black Wall Street, right? Black Wall Street. That's what they called it. What happened? Some white folks was a little upset, came down and started acting rowdy. I think they were Democrats, weren't they? They were Dixiecrats. Dixiecrats. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, white liberals. So, yeah. So they came down and, you know, caused a fuss and they were dropping bombs from airplanes.

Yeah, it was it got it got really serious. Yeah. But the point is is Black Wall Street doesn't die until integration. During a Black Lives Matter protest, I can't remember which one. I think it was in Ferguson. There was somebody who wrote a letter. It was one of the black activists saying that they felt desegregation was like a trick. It was. What it did was you had basically parallel economies that were you know the black community was flourishing and then once they got rid of segregation and integrated then all of a sudden it pushed all of my community into and under the white community yeah yeah i don't necessarily agree with with that whole school of thought but we can talk about it so i'd love to

hear more about what you think about that well that's succinctly put right there that's exactly what happened we became second in somebody else's stuff instead of first in our stuff you know like one of the craziest things they'll say is oh this person is the first black to go to the moon or first black to do this the first that award should not go to us that award should go to white folks congratulations you accepted somebody other than yourself right and that's what that's kind of like uh you know a microscopic look at how we're treated in america or how we're looked at by the liberal america oh look it's cool to be second place so here's your participation

trophy this is it's kind of interesting though because the only time i've ever heard the idea about segregation being like uh or i'm sorry integration being bad in some capacity is from the left right but you consider yourself conservative no consider myself hotep we have conservative values though right on okay yeah i consider myself hotep although we have conservative values and i i get along with a lot you know shout out to sonny johnson you know shout out to uncle hotep uncle hotep was the one that taught me about conservatism and sonny johnson refined that that school of thought for me and and i think she's the best conservative i've seen period you know

black white or whatever um but yeah loosely described as conservative i know a lot of people like to describe me as that i don't mind it sometimes but hotep to the core yeah i think that's a good way to put it man it's weird how left and right don't really make sense anymore i guess no that's the that's the great divide to divide the people yeah you know so we don't unite against the state you know that's the big thing and that's why white liberals keep us in the forefront you know the the thing about integration was it was about turning black people white. They wanted us to be like them. They wanted us to amalgamate and assimilate into the white culture and become culturally white. And whoever whoever assimilates best does best.

If we look at people like, you know, Don Lemon don lemon you know clean cut dude he assimilates real well sounds like a white guy dates a white guy he assimilates really well uh kamala harris she assimilates really well she dates a white man she's married to a white man these people assimilate into aoc she talks all that stuff about white supremacy but she sleeps a white man you know these people assimilate into the culture and it seems like if you assimilate for example my hair would not be allowed right unless i was hey you know then it'd be okay that's so weird but these are democrats yeah this is kind of like a heterodox i don't know it's it's weird it sounds like a lot of what you're saying does fit with with a lot of the social justice you know activists yeah but then you're coming down hard and pointing out

it's actually the democrats that are you know racist or they have no diversity they scream diversity but they have none yes when you talk about you know the problems in america right and you say oh you know unemployment started out well who owns all the tech companies it's the leftists so if there's if you don't guys don't have representation of women guess who's been making those decisions white liberal men if you don't have black people on your board or or on your team who made those decisions some white male liberal y'all they say that they're they're they're doing better now by stopping the white cis heteronormative patriarchy or whatever.

It's these same companies that are now trying to – Did you hear what you just said? Say it again. The cis what? White cis heteronormative patriarchy. Okay. Try to be as verbose as possible because I'm kind of making fun of them. And that's very specific.

I know. It's almost meaningless. Right? Exactly. It's so specific that it's meaningless yep right it's like you heteronormative so every other white man's exempt from the rule right right right the point of saying it is to like it highlights the absurdity of the of this fringe group of people and yes because like a regular person's gonna be like i got no idea what you just said right you didn't convey any information to me by saying that weird phrase.

Yeah. If you're not on Twitter, you wouldn't know what's going on. Right. Exactly. Exactly. We got to talk about the main Mag of Mars to go on from there. But when they say patriarchy, yeah, that's exactly what they want to do. They want to destroy the patriarchy for you, but not for them.

Just like Gavin Newsom. It's lockdowns for you, but I'm going to kick it with the homies. More than once. He got caught twice. Twice. Twice he got caught. Do you guys know who those people were? That was the California Medical Advisory Board. I thought that was the funniest thing I'd heard.

Dude. You've got to be joking. It's kind of so obvious what they do, right? They tell you to lock down Nancy Pelosi, go get a haircut. Mayor Lori Lightfoot, go get a haircut. Gavin News newsom goes out to eat gets caught goes out to eat again gets caught and says it was just a mistake no they don't care about you and they're not scared of this that's what's weird yeah some animals are more equal than others animal farm yeah if if you people haven't read animal farm make sure you go give that a good refreshing read it should only take you about an hour or two if you got add like me you know saying i had the kids read it this summer but

so so you said you said democrats have no diversity is that what you're saying there's no diversity so what do you mean by that you have to think a certain way you have to look a certain way you have to behave a certain way and they use skin color as the shield to pretend they do have diversity yeah i mean i go on these voice chat apps and i have discussions with them and all way. And they use skin color as the shield to pretend they do have diversity. Yeah. I mean, I go on these voice chat apps and I have discussions with them and all the black people sound exactly the same. And then I get in a room and I speak and I get ostracized because I'm different because I don't come from your world of pish posh, polished white liberalism, you know, the black boule. I mean, the people that complain about racism and white supremacy have some of the best jobs.

Yeah, they work for CNN. They work for Vogue. I'm like, you guys have all the jobs I wish I would have had when I was younger. They were all blue checked up and verified. Do you know how far being verified goes when you apply for a job really oh yeah i know you wouldn't know because you're a smart man well no just because i've you've never applied for a job using a blue check right right right yeah i've not applied for a job in like 10 years see what i'm saying because you're a smart man yeah but some some people out here you know they want to apply for a job and they might have dreadlocks and they might not

have that college degree and they might not have that verification but you know what if i had the verification they might overlook the degree yeah they might overlook the locks you're somebody right right yeah you must be somebody but i dig it man i don't i i went to the white house wearing this did you yeah i don't wear a suit i wore the beanie and the button shirt or whatever. It's called branding. That's right. It is, but it's also I think it's look, man, this is America. We're a country founded on a bunch of farmers fighting

back against the Empire or whatever. Yes. So the way I see it is, in this country we are all equal. Okay. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness and we are all equal. Okay. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And we are all... I'm brain farting on the line

from the Declaration of Independence. We're all created in God's image? No, we're all created with the same inalienable rights. Yes. So when someone says this is the White House, I say that's great, but this is not a building designed and built for, in my opinion,

the wealthy elites. Ooh. No, no, no. We can go back in time and talk about the wealthy landowners and their ideas and what they wanted to do. But what they put forward in these documents was planting a seed that said everybody's got a shot. Allegedly. Now you've got companies like Vanguard and uh that own like most of the tech companies so like vanguard is the biggest investment firm in the world it owns and it's

not an american well yeah we got we have i think after a certain amount of time we became a plutocracy yeah and now it's just all the rich people who just dictate what we do and they pay for the laws they're definitely dividing us on purpose as Americans. These corporate financialists. I don't know. That's what worries me. I don't know if there's like a grand conspiracy among the ultra rich to be like, here's what we got to do to the people. I think it's rich people just acting in their own interests, like ultra wealthy elites. And it's a big club and you ain't in it.

But I don't think they have like a meeting where they're like, how can we screw over the rebel today? Or like, how can we control? No, I think it's basically like a guy saying, I don't want them coming in my building. So I want this law passed in your city. And they go, you got it, buddy. And then they build this system around. But there's so many meetings documented. There's meetings, but it's an issue of, I guess it's an issue of intent, right?

There was a Jekyll Island meeting. Surely you're familiar with the creature from Jekyll Island. I shall say nothing further. That's where they wrote up the Federal Reserve Act. Oh, really? The way I look at how this country was founded is

that it's really interesting that it had these ideas of liberalism, like classical liberalism. Freedom, liberty, individualism. They certainly didn't operate under the purest form of that when this country was founded. But through that, we've had numerous amendments, Supreme Court rulings that have led to more equality. I guess you can call it equality, but I suppose – I feel like the opposite has happened. So explain what you mean.

The further we've progressed as a country, the less equality we've had. Really? Yeah. Where is the equality? Where do you see the equality? Well, I can tell you, it was my grandparents weren't legally allowed to be married because they were different races. And so they had to actually flee because it was illegal. Different states.

Well, again, that's the problem with the federal government. Right. So the federal government overrides how the states want to operate. Right. I believe that every state has the right to make laws and say, look, we don't want these type of people getting married. Cool. I'm a leave and go someplace where we are welcome. This is the great thing about not having a communist nation, because then you got the federal government opens a window for them to start calling shots and saying, you can do this and you can't do that. We got to leave that window closed. You can't tell the states anything they want to do.

Besides, I think the only benefit to having people get married under the state is some sort of tax, right? Tax benefits. It was different back in the day. It was different. I mean, what's stopping you from getting married under God? I don't know. Why do you need the state's approval to get married oh i agree with you on

that right like you want to talk about why the government has authority there's a big difference between legitimate authority and illegitimate authority and too much of government is just arbitrary we've just okay you're in charge of this for whatever reason it doesn't make sense yeah you wasn't with me sleeping in the bed you know i mean you wasn't hitting that i was hitting that yeah where was you at you know you took 30 wasn't hitting that i was hitting that you know where was you at you know you took 30 for me and give me nothing back you're talking about the government yeah you took 30 for ties and didn't get nothing back you screwed me i i was screwing her while you were screwing me my understanding as i was reading this thing we mentioned a day ago, a day ago or so, is that the average person gets more value, more dollar per dollar value from the government than they pay in taxes.

It's the rich people that pay way more taxes that basically subsidizes. I've heard that theory before, but that sounds like what you call overeducated speak. Yeah. Yeah. Either you taking 30 percent for me or not not i don't care what you're doing with everybody else and the super rich and what they're subsidizing are you taking 30 from me because i need that 30 seriously yeah so you like these trump tax cuts yeah even though it's a deferment right you still gotta pay it later on which ones the the the tax program well the the the covid one was a deferment right

but but the uh the actual tax cuts he put in place oh a few years ago yeah okay okay yeah yeah of course i mean of course you're gonna enjoy that right i operate as a corporation it's it's really you know what the craziest thing to me is i don't understand why when it comes to when i talk to these leftist activists these progressives they're talking about taxing the rich and all that and i'm like okay but you know how much money that like do you know where that money goes when you tax them? There's a lot of questions you've got to ask when you say tax the rich. Okay, what taxes? Are you talking about capital gains specifically or are you talking about corporate tax?

And then where does that money go? What do you do with it? Because I'll tell you what, like a good chunk of it goes to blowing up kids in foreign countries. Yeah. So is that something you are choosing to pay for, you want to buy because i personally don't i mean when you charge when you when you when you tax the rich all you're basically saying is become more savvy with how you hide your money yep exactly right so then you wonder why you can't get jobs in america is because they're gonna offshore them to russia india or some other third world nation. And that's the result. They're going to be much savvier. You know, in order to not pay taxes in America, you need a 500 an hour dollar employee.

I mean, accountant, somebody who has previously worked for the IRS from those other loopholes. That's how you you perform tax avoidance is different from tax evasion, got tax avoidance. So if you can afford to not pay taxes, you won't pay taxes and you shouldn't i i do not advocate for the rich to get taxed because advocating for the rich to get taxed means i'm next no no that's not supposed to be like that how do you feel about income tax it shouldn't be taxed at all The first instance of tax was for what? To subsidize the wars. When was that? Revolutionary War?

Civil War? That was bonds, though, wasn't it? So in the Revolutionary War, they sold bonds. And then I think income tax came at the early 1900s. They were like, we need more money. It came around when they started the Federal Reserve. They had a stamp tax. Yeah. Stamp Act. For weed, right? The Stamp Act. That's correct, sir. Was that for weed? we need more money it came around they had a federal reserve they had a stamp tax yeah stamp

act for for weed stamp act that's correct sir yeah for imported goods it was like a tariff yeah so you might not have had an income tax right right right right right but they were taking it out of your assets they were stealing money from people some way somehow then you had the the european powers that were controlling the script that were controlling the currency and that's really what everybody was upset about that's one thing a lot of people don't talk about because you got to remember they tried the first national bank then the second national bank and then the second national bank was like all right we paid off all our debts and after the civil war the north told the south look whatever debt you got we're not taking that you better clear your

debts before you come back and then that's how r's how Russia gave us Alaska and paid off the debt. You know what I'm saying? So we bought that back from Russia for helping the North. I mean, there's a lot goes into, you know, the financial background of America. But I mean, there's always been some sort of lean placed against the American people. So you let's go back real quick. You were mentioning diversity, because I want to ask you, when we're talking about the Democrats, they all think the same. They all act the same. Yeah.

But they say they look different. So that's their diversity. What do you think about the Republican Party? The Republican Party, they're so boring, there's nothing to say. Right? right dude that's the way i feel like what do they do like like the really um i don't i don't i don't know what the republican party does i i have no idea what's happening in that world i could not speak from an educated platform on the republican party or the democrat party all i can tell you is about what I see manifested in my life. And it seems like the Republicans have a very hands off attitude. It seems like

they they bow to the Democrats. It does, for sure. Right. Yeah. From where I'm sitting. And it seems like the Democrats really control the topics of conversation they control culture the liberals control culture and uh like i believe uh breitbart said andrew breitbart you know said uh politics is down street from culture correct yeah right so they under they knew that you know republicans don't have any culture like they don't they don't control any cultural institutions right the republicans are constantly trying to be liked by democrats yeah like you see that video of lindsey graham fist bumping kamala harris the other day yeah so like he's the dude who's coming out telling trump to fight tooth and nail he's going to donate money to this but then secretly

he walks up with a fist bump pat on the back because these these you know what you know it feels like a lot of these republicans and there's some good there's some there's some good populists like you know regular conservatives and there's some democrats yeah but the republican party it seems like these guys are all just like the nerdy kids in school begging to be popular. And they think the Democrats are the cool kids. So they're just like, we'll do it. We'll say whatever you want.

You know, just tell me what to say and I'll say it. Yeah, exactly. I mean, they're all puppets at the end of the day. You know, Alex Jones came on your platform. Actually, no, my bad. I'm thinking of Sean Stone. I interviewed Sean stone on my platform and he broke down who was financing the left and who financing the right and they from the same

family i'm not naming no names i'm not that brave does the left have anybody have anybody funny funny yeah or funding funny funny funny oh they got a lot of names i don't say names that's not what hotel jesus do we don't say names you know i mean yeah because then people drag you they're like you bring them up and then well i might need their money one day right on right i'm not i'm not gonna upset see that's the thing man everybody's like upset at this power structure right i'm not upset at it i'm upset at the people for for for feeding into it. We don't got to feed into this system. We could go do our own thing and make this system obsolete. And these people will be wondering like like you asked me, like Shorty asked me on the way here. You know, do I vote? I was like, no, I don't vote. If I vote, I validate the existence of the state. I'm not validating the existence of the state. So I don't vote. So every time I go vote y'all basically telling the government oh y'all believe in this what we doing okay good come on down here place this vote no

doubt i got you and you're validating bs proving you have confidence in the system to some degree right so like how many times do you have to get shafted before you realize it's not working for you and the problem is and that's why i'm writing my upcoming book you know it's not working for you. And the problem is, and that's why I'm writing my upcoming book, you know, it's like, they don't have any sense of history. You know, people talk about the founding fathers.

Like I always say, the founding fathers didn't care about you at all. You know, they were not thinking about you when they wrote the declaration of independence and the bill of rights. They were thinking about themselves. Right. I don't know.

I don't know if I agree, but let's, let's, let's talk about it. What do you mean? Okay. In order to vote, you had to own land about it. What do you mean? Okay. In order to vote, you had to own land back then.

But do you know why that was? Why is that? There was no IDs. So somebody walks into a meeting and he says, I'm going to vote. And they're like, who are you? I own this piece of land here, right here. Yeah. So it was your way of saying, I live in this community. I'm a member of this community.

You know, in order to have power, you always need good excuses. Yeah. And that sounds like a real have power, you always need good excuses. Yeah. And that sounds like a real good excuse. We didn't have ID. Well, you know what everybody has for ID? What's that? Called a thumbprint. But back then, I don't think they knew that.

What? Come on, Tim. Don't do that. Fingerprints back in the day. Fingerprints are ancient. Fingerprints are ancient, bro. They used to take candle wax and then certify a document with candle wax this is ancient technology everybody's got an idea it's right here it's not it's not just about ideeing somebody it was about

we don't want someone to vote in our you know meetings right who doesn't have a stake in what happens here yeah that's what that's what that's what they say yeah that's what they say but that's not what the documents say the documents are supposed to be for all people right not just landowners right you can't just say oh you have to have a stake in this that's a good point too because there are a lot of people who lived in these areas that didn't own land you know they weren't voting well yeah i think you know you know you also got people who were drafted into wars while the rich were able to pay their way out. And, you know, the 17th Amendment that we do a Senate by popular vote. Okay.

Before the 17th, the states would appoint senators specifically because this is not a democracy. This country is not a democracy. It's a republic. The founding fathers thought you've got the House that represents the will of the people, but the senators are the upper chamber of better men. Literally, that was what they would say, better men.

And so that all changed in the early 1900s. And I think it was probably Michael Malice who told me this. Maybe it wasn't. No, I think it was Seamus, actually. That there were senators who, when they passed the 17th, resigned saying, I do not want to be beholden to the rabble.

So, originally, yeah, we did have elitism. We had a lot more of it. It's crazy to me. You know the UK sells the House of Lords? They sell the House of Lords? They still have a House of Lords. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Like, the upper chamber is just like religious ranking people and like landowners from like of of historic merit of

some sort yeah and then the other side is the parliament and then i think no the house of commons house of commons yeah so they're all in parliament the house of commons is just like the regular people okay so it was supposed to be like that here yeah founding fathers were like we want better men to be appointed by you know the state and then the house was the regular people who would come and you know talk about the will of the people yeah i think that i think it's clever because we're not a democracy and you don't just want you know all political power to be in the hands of just popular vote right makes sense but definitely this this idea was some people are better than others and that

wasn't you know power evenly distributed like a democracy yeah i mean it's true people some people are better than others that's the right that that means you're right wing conservative yeah not a conservative right makes you right wing so you know michael malice yeah yeah so he so he asked me he's like the new right how do you define what left and right is and he asked do you think some people are better than others yeah i was like yes he asked, do you think some people are better than others? Yeah. And I was like, yes. And he goes, okay, that's right.

I think some people are doing better than other people, but I don't think that they're just better. Like if someone was born into my situation, they'd be literate. And you're over, you're way overthinking it. So he said the left gives you a speech. The right would say, yes, I'm obviously on the left because, but I said, but the saying yes is the correct answer. Some people are really tall and they can play basketball really well.

And so what we mean by better doesn't, if we're just speaking in general terms, oh yeah, there's a chess grandmaster and there's a guy who can't win at all. So clearly these things exist. Some people are better than others. Even if it's just one or two people who are better at playing chess than most other people, then some people are. But yeah, that's how Michaelael defines separating the you know yeah i'm a c-level chess player and there's definitely better people yeah dude that's it that's crazy that makes you right

wing that's interesting but what's interesting too is i think there's a lot of people that are better than me at like basically everything so there's basically idealism versus realism yeah yeah maybe yeah that's maybe that's it that's basically what the you know the conversation comes down to and that's the problem there's no balance available well do you think that there should be an element of government that is better men and i use men figuratively i mean people the best type of government is no government yeah i should have should have figured you'd say yeah yeah yeah no government um we gotta let you what about what about like fire departments and police departments i like i like thinking about

um when the irish created the the first fire departments in boston and in philadelphia and originally they created fire departments because they were actually creating fires. That sounds like us. And they were fighting for so-called equality. So a lot of those things popped up independently and were funded independently. I think those are great community things that can happen that don't need government intervention. I think that there are people in this world who know their destiny, know their value, and will do a lot of things for free. There are some people who would die to be a nurse and never take a cent and fill some type way. They just enjoy doing that. People are just built like

that. So I think things like fire departments are easy to come by. Isn't that idealistic, though? No, that's realistic. You know the shopping cart problem? You ever hear this one? What's that? So they say the shopping cart corral is the perfect test for whether or not humans can self-govern. You go to the supermarket, you get a shopping cart, you go to your car, you got the shopping cart next to your car. It takes almost no time to put the shopping cart in the corral, but you don't get anything for it.

You know it's the right thing to do, but still people will just leave their shopping cart right there in the middle of the lot, just get in their car and leave. And so the idea is you could do the right thing for no reward that doesn't really affect you at all, five, ten seconds, but people still choose not to do it. People in America choose to do it. You mean choose not to do it? Choose not to do it, in america choose to do it choose you mean choose not to do it choose not to do it yeah yeah you could pull another culture out and you'd see something completely different for sure yes it's something to say about the level of human consciousness in america and the western world the the the graduation of the ego right it's very at a very low state at

this point so we have people who who exist exist in this system, time is of the essence in America, right? And a lot of that has to do with that 30% that gets taken out of your check. Regarding the fire department, I feel like it's kind of a specialized job. You got to train and learn how to do it and carry the weight and all that, whatever, what it takes to go into a building, fight the fire. And it takes time, a lot lot of time so if they weren't getting paid they might not be able to to support their lives um if it was a private company you look at like the roman fire departments pompey's fire department he had the first fire department that we know of and he would go if the building was on fire go outside with his fire department say pay me and he'd extort the people and the

people would be like i i know i'm not gonna you. And then he just let their building burn down. The original fire departments, I think, used to buy an emblem and you'd put the emblem on your house. Okay. And then when the fire was called in, they'd come and they'd see the emblem and say, okay, you're a subscriber. Again, you're talking about a level of low conscious human beings, right? You wouldn't have that in some ancient societies. You wouldn't have that problem.

You just have a fire department. Those people will be taken care of. You know, it's interesting. I was reading- They might get paid. Have we tried private fire departments in a local town and what that looks like? And is it possible if we didn't have to pay 30% that we'd pay maybe 10% to go to some of those services. And those would go directly to those services. And those people might actually get paid more than what the government has given them. I think we should build an app where you get to pick where your taxes go on a sliding bar. And if you wanted to slide like 17% to the fire department, I want

to slide 13% to the police department. And you might have minimums, like you have to put at least 2% into each of these. Then you get to pick. And you'll see like the voluntarism kick in. But why not? Why not? How about then I add, I want the taxes to go to my skate park. So you would put your skate park.

It'd be like Tinder. You'd be like, hey, I'm Tim Pool. I want to build a skate park. People would be like, oh, I like that. I'm going to swipe right and add that to my list of things that I can fund. But then I'll be like, I'm going to give 2% of my taxes to Tim's skate park. But then how about we just take Hotep's path and say, you can't get any of my 30% at all. Just keep it all, right?

Yeah. So you should have that option too. Just put it in your pocket. And if I want money to go to a skate park, I'll shop at your skate park and give you money. Yeah. I think, you know, man, I'm not a big fan of government authority. I think a lot of it's arbitrary. I've seen a lot of the arbitrary authority put in action.

And a lot of people that play popularity contests to get the keys to the castle to have that authority. Yeah. But I still think, you know, I'm not an anarchist. I probably would be, idealistically, I'm like left libertarian. And then realistically, I'm like probably just a liberal. Probably just like, I think we need i think we need some kind of uh mixed economy some kind of mixed system i think we should take all them terms and throw them in the trash why is that because to listen to what you just said you said when it

comes to this i'm this when it comes to that oh yeah but i can explain it right but let's just talk about each issue and and say what our views are and not label it. All right. Right? Because then with those labels come preconceived notions. I think one of the challenges is that you look at the Brooklyn Bridge. So I'm not a historian on the Brooklyn Bridge, but my understanding is that it was put together by a corporation to build this bridge.

Then you try to figure out how to compensate everybody. And so you have this corporation originally, my understanding, was supposed to dissolve after it was done yeah it comes yeah like toll roads yeah yeah it exists but then the bridge comes to exist forever what do so what do we do do we uh put up a toll for the bridge forever i'm not saying it's a bad idea i'm asking a serious question well allegedly the the the fee that we pay through tolls was supposed to be used to build the bridge and i believe there was a budget budget set aside to maintain a bridge afterwards, right? Well, for sure.

And then they saw how much revenue was coming in, and they said, why would we stop this money coming in? Look at this. But so ignoring the – well, there you go. That's the first problem with government, corruption. Yeah. Why kill the golden goose? We're going to keep the money. Yeah, so what's the next part to it? So, well, I guess is the solution then we keep the bridge under a private corporation

and then just have them run it with their interest only in that bridge or whatever? Who built the bridge? I think the Brooklyn Bridge was built by the Brooklyn Bridge Corporation or something like that. Okay. I could be wrong. I could be wrong. I was reading a plaque outside of the Brooklyn Bridge or something. Yeah.

So I don't know. It's a really tough question, right? The capitalist in me says the corporation should own it, and they should be able to dictate who can cross it and who can't. And if you don't like their rules, don't go to Brooklyn. Yeah. That's what Vanderbilt did with his railroads. But then when he wanted to stop shipping food into New York,

he cut them off and starved a bunch of people. That's usually. Oh, they also did that with coal and everything. Yeah. And then what happens is they nationalize it that sounds like exactly what happens you know but then they also do things like make growing hemp illegal right yeah they make things like collecting rainwater is illegal well the collecting i wouldn't need your shipment of food if you let me grow my own well the rain the rainwater thing in some context makes sense yeah because

like if if uh in certain areas like in suburban neighborhoods there's rules about not collecting rainwater having it run off otherwise you need a you need like a certain amount of it's just like about maintaining the the environment for everybody that are living really close together yeah but uh in a lot of places it makes literally no sense so the bigger issue i think is rules that are made for cities that affect people who don't live anywhere near them. Well, let me ask you this. Let's go back to the railroad, right? Who's going to protect the railroad?

In general? The police, I think? Okay, police work for who? Federal, wherever, local or federal. All right. So we remove them. Who's going to protect Vanderbilt from the people after you start them? You'd have to hire a –

You see what I'm saying? That's why government shouldn't be there because what they do is these corporations set up and then they pay the government to protect them and then they have the most elite security force on the planet that's why you get rid of government you know what Walmart

does right even better Walmart tells their employees or there was I don't know if this was a widespread thing but I remember reading about howmart tells their employees or there was there was i don't know if this was a widespread thing but i remember reading about how walmart told their employees if you can't afford to work here go on go on food stamps it's like you hired people and you're telling them to get government benefits to subsidize their lives yeah that doesn't make sense yeah i'm not i'm not apply to tell you you make too much one more time when you when you apply for some of these uh right government assistance they tell you you make too much. One more time? When you apply for some of these government assistance, they tell you you make too much.

But it's kind of crazy to me that you have these big corporations where they're like, we're going to hire you. We pay this much. And if you can't afford it too bad, go ask the government for a subsidy. If the government didn't provide that, they'd say it doesn't exist. You have to pay more money. So the fact that the government offers it up actually allows these these big you know massive corporations to undercut the the lower class the working class yeah yeah you know you want to know something crazy there's progressives that say they want

they want they want a lot of things they want four-day work week right okay they want shorter shorter days they want paid vacation and they want it implemented through policy and you know how the some of these things started getting implemented how it wasn't policy it was donald trump the economy was booming and then all of a sudden we started seeing a bunch of companies say we're gonna reduce you know hours you know same salary but now you only work 32 we're gonna give you paid vacation because the economy was doing so well so the fact that there was just a good economy resulted in a lot of these things that improved people's living yeah i just feel like you just let uh companies compete for employees and you know if this company is treating their employees better than they compete like that

and say hey look you know i heard that i heard they're giving four days over here i want to apply for a job there right and then it changes the culture you know what the problem is that's what i'm interested in i think the problem is schools more oh yeah more more government i guess is the problem i suppose school is definitely maybe the number one problem along with i mean school and media are kind of like one because that's the brainwashing the indoctrination unit so you mentioned make make the businesses compete for employees, right? Yeah. But what happens when the people don't understand any of these concepts and just sit there saying, why am I broke and don't do anything about it?

So I know a bunch of people that go to school and they think the only way to survive is to get a job as if the employer is the supplier of money, as if the employer makes money appear out of thin air to give to you. You can make money too, same as them. Yeah. That's just one of those things where you do as i say i mean no watch yeah how do you say do as i do not as i say as i say not as i do yeah no no no actually that's not in what rules for thee but not for me no watch just watch me do it yeah watch me do it and then people will emulate right because

you can talk to somebody and say hey you should be an entrepreneur all day that don't mean they're going to be an entrepreneur but when they see you do it they go oh wait i think i can do that lead by example lead but thank you lead by example that's that's what i say i don't try to convince people we're not being an entrepreneur they just see how i'm living and they're like yo how do you do that and i tell them and i say join my saturday course and my Saturday class, or, you know,

I'll mentor you during the week, but you just got to be that example. That's the problem out here. We're doing too much talking. Yeah. Not enough doing. Yeah. Not enough doing.

Hold up and build. Yeah. I'm pretty concerned with private military. Yeah. I've talked about state and the value of the state because. Or taxes and where they go. Well, that definitely,

that's crazy that you don't know where your taxes are going. But up until like the 1400s, there was all mercenary warfare pretty much. Okay. And it was one mercenary company would go burn down a village and then they'd get hired by the people to go defend the village that they, you know, burned down. Yeah. So it's just a constant chaos. And then they, they developed standing armies to prevent mercenary overtake so

we're basically in a world of standing armies now that are funded by taxpayers yeah and i'm afraid that if we go back to mercenaries it would be corporate chaos no we'd just get the same thing we have now but except you and i'd be able to form a militia or become mercenaries but i don't want to be in a militia right now well that, that's you. Just right now, though. That's you. There's people in Arizona training right now. I want people to protect me. That's their specialized job.

That's who you want protecting you. I like specialization. And I want to focus my energy into creating content, thought stuff, and then have someone else carry the guns, have someone else growing the crops. You ever heard the statement about, I'd rather be a warrior in the garden and a gardener in the war yeah okay so i mean my point is do you want the government to have a monopoly on violence or not because as it is the only people that's allowed to do this stuff are governments. Or rich people. The United States government is good because we're allowed to form standing militias as part of our own government. Yeah. You know that private security, they'll shove a cop for you if you pay the right price.

Yes. We've talked about this quite a bit. You can watch videos where there's some dude is doing something. The cops walk up to him and start yelling, and the two bodyguards shove the cops down. Because those bodyguards are like, these guys have so much money, they will buy that police department out.

You will not arrest me. Absolutely. Yeah. These cops who get paid 30, 40K, coming up and messing with a guy who's worth hundreds of millions or billions of dollars, and his private security gets, they get paid, you know, high six figures, they're going to be like, I don't care.

That's the life. They're going to take care of my family. If I go to jail, knock the cop down't care. That's the life. They're going to take care of my family. If I go to jail, knock the cop down. Yeah, that's the life. That's how you got to live out here, you know? But I think there's a lot of people who could be trained to be armed security for the people. You know, let me talk about like police. You got a kid in high school who was the bully.

Well, guess what? He's probably a natural guardian. He's probably a natural soldier. So let's put him in training and let's make him guardian in the community a bully though a bully you got to understand a bully has sometimes some psychological issues that maybe started as a as a youth all he needs a little bit of therapy and channel that energy into something good a lot of times you have with disruptive kids is they're just not getting attention yeah right and then for example um there was this kid who was bad in school and what the teacher used to do was she used to make him the volunteer and all of a sudden the

bad behavior disappeared but it's because all the other teachers would ignore him wouldn't let him volunteer wouldn't let him get up be the one to sharpen the pencils or pass out the papers but she made him a little helper and now he's an a student yeah it's about understanding human psychology and people don't want to tackle that you know i think in response to what you're saying i think you underestimate your ability you you should be responsible for you should be a well rounded person in every capacity you should you should be able to defend yourself protect yourself you should be able to be the one who carries the gun. And you can focus on the things you're more passionate about.

But I think you wake up, you read, you exercise, you make sure you're well-rounded with your specialties. You can be a specialist in content creation. It doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to carry heavy things. But you don't farm. No, I don't. No, of course not. You're specialized. Sort of. But I could farm. I could farm too, but you don't. And I don't farm. No, I don't. No, of course not. You're specialized. Sort of, but I could farm.

I could farm too, but you don't. And I don't because we're specialized. And that's because this sociological construct of the government allows us to be specialized. But I actually like farming. Well, I like doing a lot of stuff I don't do. You should do hydroponics. That sounds cool. I'm so into it.

Yeah, we had a garden at the last house. You should just set up like... Well, that was mostly... You got the skate park popping up, right yeah skate park yeah so you need another building with just the hydroponics man that's the future we were thinking about doing that with the with the detached building we have but it's all it's there's no light so we have to like figure out a way to do something with like a greenhouse i Yeah, greenhouse that bad boy. But dude, dude, dude, first of all, like I am all about self-sufficiency.

You know what I mean? Like we're almost off the grid in this place. If you try and do everything, you'll end up coming up short in those things. There's a reason we've begun to specialize. There's two sayings. It's an ancient Japanese saying, a person who tries to catch two rabbits will catch neither.

And then there's another saying that you may have heard, jack of all trades, master of none. Right? You've heard of that? You want to know what the real saying is? What's the rest of it? Jack of all trades, master of none, but every so often better than a master of one. That's the full saying. Yeah.

So it depends. In a culture of all specialists, yeah, that's what we've become. And we're hyper-specialized now. It's like when it comes to building a computer, you've got actually components and parts. You've got some people who specialize in one tiny aspect of building the computer. Someone focuses on developing the plastics for the casings or whatever. It used to be, way back in the day, the blacksmith was the guy who would make the thing. Now you've got a thousand different specialties to make that job done that's actually

allowed us to make crazy new technology and improve things and but i think there's still fundamentals that everybody should probably work on being fit for instance knowing how to use a gun probably i think these are important things there's like basic necessities for life it's basic necessities for a man it's like knowing how to change a tire yeah yep just like simple things simple um and dependent depending on how good you want to be at them you know but i think you know i tell people i tell people the one thing you can do right now is download a survival guide onto your phone you might not never use it yeah but yeah but then you absolutely that's a good idea how many how many how many stories we heard about someone went for a walk and then they got lost in the woods right so you

look pull up your phone and they'll say oh here's what i do okay cool i got a wilderness survival merit badge and boy scouts i'm good out here there you go man i'm not like a sycophant for the government for government daddy to take care of us but i value some of the the safety that it provides i guess i think it provides safety yeah the freedom like what like um if i go outside and someone wants to mug me they'll do that well not if there's a police officer standing by that's i don't know what are the odds of that and and people get their act but people get their square for instance you ever seen andy no get beat up in front of police yeah Yeah. Oh, no, not in front of police. I didn't see that. Dude, dude, dude.

You see the video of the Trump supporters, the MAGA family? Yeah. They're trying to leave, and the cops stopped them and made them go into Antifa. Yeah. So, look, like I said, I think we need police. I think police serve a function. I'm not an anarchist or anything like that, but I absolutely have no problem criticizing the cops. We've had way too much this year of cops just enforcing these unconstitutional edicts from governors

yeah instead of actually being there to help the people and protect them we had these gym owners by the old house in jersey where they got arrested yeah for just working out in a building yeah these cops didn't care i'm free to drive on the freeway without getting hit by speeding cars because you want the car speeding no they say that people tend to concentrate more when they speed oh they sure do people are going different speeds i love this most dangerous did you realize that most accidents are happening like within five minutes of your house i've heard that yeah and and and like usually like not speeding yeah but that's because people aren't going 30 miles an hour differentials on the freeway because we have speed limits.

Usually people don't crash because people are speeding. So people don't drive the speed limit, bro. People don't drive the speed limit. They're either above or over. Under penalty of law. No, I mean that people always speed. They always speed. I don't.

And then everybody speeds. Everybody goes 5, 10 over. Seven miles an hour over, maybe. I think that's my personal number. And then what happens is. I've done 130 before. It's so dangerous. I've done 130 in a Honda Accord 91.

It's not a piece of metal, though. The car. The car isn't even metal. Them things is made out of plastic now. If you had a Lincoln Tow Car from the 80s, then yeah, right? So heavy. But you know, my father was, my father was military.

He taught me how to drive, but you know, I took that, that bad boy down to 80 doing 130 when I was like 18 years old, but your concentration, your focus is spiked. Not, I don't suggest doing that and keep in mind.

Um, but I know how to drive really well. You need to, you need to drive. You holler at me. I'm real good at driving my brother is actually a race car driver this is this is just uh like there's different degrees of i i don't know what the term would be but um you've got people right now who

are saying no one should be allowed to go outside because i'm scared of covid yeah then you got other people saying if you're scared you stay home i'm gonna do my thing so there's varying degrees of like how much freedom we should have versus how much security. And I think the difference is you're all about total freedom. Yeah. Even if it means you're not going to be, you're going to have people zooming patch on the highway. You're like, well, you know, I'm free, right? Yeah. I'm free. There you go. Freedom has a strange definition. Like total freedom means that you're out in the middle of, we've created freedom in the United States by a military force. So we're giving ourselves freedom.

Like you can walk around outside without getting jumped and punched in the middle of the day. No, that's a cultural thing, dude. It's because we have police protecting us. No, it's not. It is. If it was total lawlessness,

you could also call that freedom. I go out there and urinate on your face and kick you in the teeth and take your money and no one's going to stop me. No, no, no. I'm free. How do you do that with the AK strapped to my back? What if I

get the jump on you? I mean, if you want to fight for a living, you're going to end up getting beat down. That's just the problem. So I know the problem with you. Oh. I know the problem with you. You have no faith in people. I wouldn't say that. That's everything you've said today. You don't have faith in people i wouldn't say that that's everything you've said

today you don't have faith in people that can make people drive fast you don't you think that if the government wasn't there somebody come pee on your face people would be hacking your bank account you would have no recourse that's but here's what you listen when we're talking about being safe in public that's not police the the police, most people aren't crazy outside. You know who, you know who hacks your bank account? The government. Yeah, seriously. So, look, I think I don't I don't expect if I'm going on the street, the reason someone's not going to among me is because cops exist.

That's not true. We have the death penalty. People still commit these crimes. We know we have a lot more. I can take you down the block right now. You won't walk back from. Yeah. The cops don't give a damn.

I know. What if the whole world was like that? That'd be crazy. No, that'd be. Bro. No, it's not. We have order. I mean, if you're saying pure chaos, it would be a lot of death.

Are you familiar with the Wild Wild West? I mean, I know of it. Yeah. Was it wild or was it peaceful? I think it was wild. People get scalped and murdered and shot. Dude. Okay, so everything you just said is ahistorical.

What do you mean? The wild, wild west was actually really peaceful. For who? For everybody. You'd walk into a town and everybody was strapped up. That's right, they were a polite society. They were a very polite society. But hold on, they had duels. So it was like it was like genociding the natives no that's the government i mean it was that the government

sanctioned that the natives would come scalp people the people would kill it was on and it was government the natives were scalping hold on hold on where'd you get your history from tv i guess some of it so hold on hold on, what do you think would happen if you went to like North Africa and the Middle East? If you went to Libya right now? They'd scalp you. You'd just like walk in. You're talking about going into – First thing is I'd be like, I'm here.

You're going into like – Pure chaos? Not pure chaos, but when you're talking about police right now in a heavily developed and peaceful nation, for the most part, crime has been on the decline for several decades. The reason why you're not getting mugged all the time is not because cops exist. However, I do think cops serve a purpose in that they do and can stop violent criminals. And they deter it as well. But for the most part, the reason why you're not getting mugged is because people don't aren't going to mug you. Well, people are animals.

And when they get hungry, they go crazy. So you got to keep people are desperate. Poverty breeds crime. And so, you know, we can I don't know, we can figure out ways to solve cultural issues. But for the most part, violent crime has been going down. The existence of police, I don't think, is stopping you from getting mugged because people mug even though there is a penalty, even though there are cops that can be called. It's just that, you know, we are learning to live. I got a challenge for you.

If we removed government, what good would happen? That's a good question. If it was just like no government at all. Yeah. What good could come from it? I could. government at all yeah what good could come from it i could uh see when you when you talk about removing the state everybody runs to the extremes and the bad thing that can happen and you can and and the thing is the way the the the human consciousness is rigged today it's rigged to

automatically go to doubt and fear this is old napoleon hill i got one for you what's that if we got rid of the state right now non-violent drug offenders could go home to their families. Boom. That's big. And I think that should happen. And people are calling on Trump to do it, but he didn't do it. All criminals would go home. Yeah, for sure.

If we got rid of the state, all prisoners would be wide open. But the point he was making was, name a good thing. Did you hear what he just did, though? He turned it into a bad thing. He did it again. Well, if you want to remove prisons from the equation completely, open all jails that wasn't that that wasn't the challenge the challenge was if you give me like a box of nine venomous snakes and a chipmunk and you're like look how good the chipmunk look how good the chipmunk is here's this box great i'd be like i'll tell you the point i'm trying to make i think there are way too many non-violent

drug offenders who should be home with their families and and we want to keep the violent psych psychopathic rapists and murderers in prison you know i would challenge that man because i think i agree we should leave the non-violent and i think the people in prison should have better i think they should have access to video i don't believe i'll mess your head up i don't believe in the prisons. So what do you what do you do in someone like serial killers? First of all, if you have somebody who's a known proven serial killer, what we do is we admit them to a psychotherapy facility. And this is where college kids get to train. You get to train on these so-called inmates, but they become case studies so we can learn the brain and learn behavior more. And we introduce these people to more nutritious environments, right? And when I say nutritious, it doesn't mean, you know, these four walls that are super cold and, you know,

you're locked down for 20, like, what does that actually do for the human mind? Now, are we going to set this person free? Probably probably not they're probably going to be imprisoned imprisoned i would i've removed the word imprisoned i don't know what that word is i'd have to take incarcerated or i would remove that i would move that down too much you know dogma comes with that stuff you know we have to think of it let's say this who would be imprisoning them though let's let's let's just i mean these are all these are all great these are all great questions right um but what i'm saying is the institution of prison needs to be revamped it needs to be more about rehabilitation and not imprisonment because the majority of the people

there aren't there voluntarily they're there because of circumstance the environment they were brought up in that's pretty much the only place they could end up is in prison i'll tell you this if we if there was no state we'd have a lot less serial killers because everybody would be strapped yep the way you put it yeah i say i think i think most conservatives probably agree with that everybody need to be strapped up you know when you're born when you're born you a gun should come with your diaper Everybody needs to be strapped up. When you're born, a gun should come with your diaper. We don't have a lot of documentation

of the past, but I think there were a lot of serial killers in the past and it was just normal. Oh, dude, yeah. Probably. People just walked around and killed. Violence is the norm.

No one was there to stop them. Yeah, we live in a very... I was reading... I told this story before. I was at Glenn Beck's studio and he's got these old newspapers just mounted on the walls. And I was reading one of them and it before. I was at Glenn Beck's studio and he's got these old newspapers just mounted on the walls. And I was reading one of them and it was about some guy who walked out of a bar and then some other guy walked out of the bar and took a pistol.

It was like mid-1800s and just put it to his chest and pulled the trigger. No reason. Just did it. But I'm like, that stuff happens in Chicago all the time, man. I grew up around that. Not all the time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not true.

That's not true for sure. No, it's all the time. Yeah, it's all the time. it's all the time would mean non-stop every every day every day is different than all the time so when i say all the time you you are in a state where at any point throughout the day it's gonna happen and it happens almost every single day so yeah i think it's fair to say all the time it's just an extreme statement it's not accurate no you're just trying to argue so what's your name? One more time. I'm terrible games. Ian, if I had you on my team, you'd be quality assurance.

We wouldn't bring you anything until like me and Tim sat down and I'd be like, OK, tear this apart. Tell me everything wrong with it. Right. And I think there's a lot of people that have these trends. Some people are optimists. Some people are pessimists. I would put you in a pessimist category. And I would say, Tim, us optimists, let's get together wait wait to be fair he ian's

usually optimist i'm usually the pessimist well i'm saying in the context of right first time i'm meeting him every time like i said say something positive and he was like we're gonna die and get pissed on right so you know in the context of this conversation this is how i'm viewing yeah right so i'm like i would take all the optimists and say if we didn't have government Right. So, you know, in the context of this conversation, this is how I'm viewing it. Right. So I'm like, I would take all the optimists and say, if we didn't have government, what good could happen? And we'd paint our flowers over here. Then I'd bring it in and say, hey, here's what we got. Tear it apart. Then you write down everything that's wrong with this. And I'd go back to my optimist. How do we fix these problems? Right. Yeah. And that's how we use each other. But the thing I believe is,

you have to escape that thinking momentarily and say, I'm not going to think about the bad that can come, because that's too easy. What's hard is to think about what good can come. That's hard. And the system has conditioned us to think only about fear and to think about only the bad. I don't think it is a system. I think it's human evolution. Because in order to survive, you have to think about what's bad. You can't really spend a lot of time thinking about how nice that flower smelled when there's a saber-toothed tiger behind you. You know what I'm saying?

So it's not even necessarily cultural unless we're talking about the evolution. Did humans coexist with saber-toothed tigers. There's a point to be made there. But when we're dealing with a media who exasperates fear. Yeah. Well, they know. Right? Yeah. Like they take something that's carnal and then they just set fire to it and just pour gasoline on it.

They gaslight us. You know what the problem is? The problem is the media is giving us fake hardship. Real hardship is a good thing. When you get kids who grow up with snowplow parents who are pushing all the obstacles out of their way, they grow up, they can't survive properly.

Then you get these people and the media screams in their faces nonstop, the orange man is bad, and then their whole identity becomes the world is ending, the sky is falling. Because they didn't go... When Trump got i don't when trump got elected i laughed in 2016 i just put my feet up and i was laughing yo because yeah i'd have a youtube video i'm just laughing for like 10 minutes because dude i've been through through hardship to where i'm like this is not the biggest problem anybody's gonna and they're like but he's gonna take people's

rights away it's like dude you do not remember anything about politics or what goes on. You know nothing about living in a city like Chicago. These suburb kids think they have it bad because the TV told them it's true. They need to go out and go camping for a couple weeks. Just like get back to nature and just learn how to start a fire. Maybe hunt something. No, they need to go to the hood. Go fishing.

Yeah, South America or something. I mean, I would say that. The jungle. They need to come hang out in Trenton, New Jersey in the jungles. That No, they need to go to the hood. South America or something. I mean, I would say that. The jungle. They need to come hang out in Trenton, New Jersey in the jungles. That's what they need to do. They need a field trip to the hood and come live in the projects for a few weeks. It's so easy to get hurt in life. It's so easy to die.

It's so hard to live and stay healthy. It is. It takes everything that we can. All this technology that we've built all this i don't think technology that we've built modern medicine clean water fresh air like it's so easy to die and it's so easy is it yeah you could there are so many things that can kill you in this world and there's so there's just like specific ways to live why are you so negative well i'm a real i'm realist i used to be i think it's so easy to live it is it's not in our world it is because we have clothing and food that's provided for us

country capitalism oh you're saying in some of the other countries right oh yeah it's a fight to live yeah some places you gotta you know yeah you're uh this is this is this is one of the problems we have as a culture right now is that we used to have to run full speed every day and i mean the figuratively to survive. You wake up, you work. Then as soon as the sun goes down, you're sleeping. But you work nonstop all day, every day. So check this out.

You keep talking about all these people in this country that have a lower life expectancy rate, right? It's because of this iPhone. It's because of our freedom. The cost of our freedom is somebody else's freedom. What do you mean that's true the cost of united states freedom is somebody all right so whatever sneakers you got on slaves in china the slaves in china our technology the slaves that's mining the coltan the slaves that's mining the gold there's always going to be somebody's freedom that's taken for yours well for your luxury because we don't need the phone you can go out live in the middle of the woods and

you know make a mud hut you could you could but it's easier not to right very a lot easier not to this is that's a very hard life to live this is what's funny about when people criticize the left saying things like you use an iphone you use this computer right and they then they have this comic where they're like oh i'll put as you know participate in society or whatever some stupid comic yeah they think that they're allowed to use these things that cause suffering around the world because they're more effective and better off with them they don't understand that you want to complain about the millionaires the billionaires the big corporations the exploitation you want to complain about capitalism andaires, the billionaires, the big corporations, the exploitation.

You want to complain about capitalism and then use all of the fruits of how capitalism enriches your life and makes it easier. But you choose to do it at any point. You could say no. But they don't want to. They don't want to. They want the luxury. They want the luxury. They want to complain about it to see them like – you know what it is?

It's guilt. They're like, I feel really bad that the people at the Foxconn labs are walking off the building in mass suicide. I'll complain about it, but I'll keep using the phone. Yeah, that's what I tell people. When people say, oh, I love America. I'm like, you don't love America. You love the luxury of America. You love the fact that we take a dump in water.

That's what you love. You love that running water. You love that electricity. You love that Wi-Fi. You love that beer. You love that bread and circus. That's food, man. Yeah, that's what you love. You love love that wi-fi you love that beer you love that bread and circus yeah that's what you love you love the luxury of america you love the fact that we don't got to deal with mosquitoes like that and if we did we could just buy a can of off yep yep the conveniences of living in america but all of that comes at the expense of somebody else's freedom

man or it comes at the expense of nature but we're trying to change that like one of the okay one of the big moves or i think one of the big drivers of you know trump's base is bringing manufacturing and and back to america and yes becoming more reliant on ourselves and our community yes brilliant brilliant thing to do donald trump's the best president we've ever had you think so he is the best president we've ever had at least in my lifetime yeah i think that's a fair point actually you know at least in my lifetime there's a lot of things he was bad about in terms of character and demeanor but in terms of these past couple years with dealing with pulling our troops out and that to me was like great on foreign policy we didn't enter no new war it's amazing right wow we could do that i didn't even

know that was a possibility it was just a thing that happened. Like America would slip and fall and drop a missile on a foreign country. Whoops. Yeah. And we were close to it because he brought Bolton in. Okay. Bolton said we'd be celebrating in Tehran. Yeah.

I mean, I think I want to say under Clinton and and maybe even bush um you know the the 90 late 90s and the early 2000s was kind of good man you could leave a job and walk right into another one economy was yeah and then to that economy great great economy economy ain't looked that well in a long time no uh under trump it was better it was yeah to Yeah. To quote Jim Cramer. Well, I mean, I lived that. Yeah. I lived that, Tim. You think it was better? It's one thing to study what they say.

It's another thing to live in the late 90s and the early 2000s. Anecdotal evidence there. I don't know, man. Let me tell you this. See, in the late 90s, I was only able to get one Power Ranger action figure. But for some reason now that I'm 34, I could buy all of them. The economy must be great. It must be way good right now.

It seems like the economy is falling apart right now with our national debt. Well, it's not just that. It's COVID. COVID is killing us. I'll tell you this. It's the debt, though. They just had the CDC director on. I'm pretty sure he was saying, we never said to shut down schools.

We never said to do this. And New York's like, I'm going to do it anyway. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why? Why is New York shutting down the schools when the CDC has never recommended that? Because then the parents can't go to work. So why would they do this? Cripple the economy.

Yeah, it's crippling the economy. I'm not going to say they're doing it on purpose. But man, these people, they must know what they're doing. Destroying the economy. They want bigger rent. They want you to know why you need them. Well, check this out. If we remove the little guy, his little mom and pop shop and all of that, and we make this Amazon monopoly come about who will spend money and doesn't care if they lose money.

Yeah, that's crazy, right? Then I can charge them a premium in rent. And then, you know, real estate goes up in this area. And all of these people are invested in real estate and invested in these companies. And so are these, you know. You know the Amazon store in Seattle? The one where you. Okay.

So you sign up. When you walk in, the cameras scan you. Yeah. Take whatever you want and you walk out and it charges you, right? Right. So I did this bit where I went in and figured out how to actually walk out without getting charged for any goods. Very easily. How'd you do that?

So I already released information before. And I'll tell you this. When people learn how a magic trick is done, it loses the magic. Yes. But it really is very simple. So when I saw that they launched this store, I'll tell you the first part, the first point I wanted to make.

When I discovered how to easily steal whatever I want without being tracked, I called and asked for a comment. And the response I got was basically, we don't care about shoplifting because we make so much money that you could steal everything and we still make more money yes they were like by not hiring anybody we're making ridiculous

profits stealing means nothing to us yeah and and shortages accounted for anyway exactly so they put in the price and so they're like we don't care that you figure this out and i was like shrinkage i'm sorry it was so easy to do anybody could do it right now and they're like we literally don't care yeah so here's how you do it. It's really simple. You just have someone else fill up a bag and then you pick the bag up and walk out and it doesn't charge you because they're tracking the bag, not what's in it. So if someone fills a bag up and then you pick it up and walk out with it and then the

person walks out with no bag, no one gets charged. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. So don't do that, by the way. Hey, for my people out there trying to get reparations. Don't do it. No, no. Don't do that.

But the point was they told me they were like, the funny thing was they kind of freaked out when they found out I did it because I filmed a video on it. Yeah. And I showed like my app said nothing was charged. And I made sure something got charged on purpose. So you could see that I had a receipt. It was like a pack of gum. Right.

And I was like, but you can clearly see we got a bunch of stuff but we did pay for it i didn't steal anything right what we did was we just swapped bags to see if it would work okay and so they basically were like wait a minute did you swap bags with someone and i was like yes and they were like oh and i was like but you realize that allows people to walk out like oh of course but you know we don't care exactly we make so much money we just don't care and that's and that's and that's exactly who they want to replace new york real estate with yeah people who got money to burn and then you know it's crazy i was talking to my friend about covid lockdown and he said we need a lockdown we need a lockdown now hard and the government needs to just pay everybody to stay home and i said where do you think that money comes from and he

was the taxpayer and i was like even if that was the case do you know where the money is going it's going to big box stores going to amazon yeah it is the largest wealth transfer ever in history if all they did was print money then they're diluting your your money and your savings taking your job away so you can't make money and then giving it all to the ultra wealthy major monopolies yeah if it was just taxpayer dollars and he was like, no, it's taxpayer dollars. They're giving it back to the people. And then the people give it right back to Amazon because mom and pop shops are closed. So you're transferring your wealth to Amazon.

They don't care about losing money. They got too much. And they're going to buy up these buildings and they're going to replace all these stores. And it's going to be owned by a small handful of people. Poor people make poor decisions. I think so. I think it's broad, but it is generally true. But the way I put it is a person is smart, people are stupid.

A person is smart, people are stupid. People are stupid. I like that. It's from Men in Black. It's a K, yeah. Yeah, he says a person is smart, people are dumb, panicky animals. Yeah, especially when you put them together in packs. They tend to infect each other with the same ignorance.

Yeah. So he wants a lockdown. That's my big problem with the lockdown. The lockdowns, it's like a lot of governments aren't even saying it. I saw two black people, blue checks, like, oh, we need another lockdown. I'm like, for what? If you are afraid of the COVID virus, don't come outside. Lock yourself down.

Quarantine yourself. I'll tell you this, man. This is the libertarian versus authoritarian. I'm not saying everybody who wants a lockdown is a hardcore authoritarian. They might just not be very smart or it might be the one issue. But I remember when they banned cigarettes in Chicago from bars and I didn't understand it. They were like, they're going to pass a citywide ordinance. You can't smoke in restaurants or bars anymore. And I was like, I don't understand why they were like they're gonna pass they pass a citywide ordinance you can't smoke in restaurants or bars anymore and i was like i don't understand why

why are they doing that yeah because because i don't smoke i hate smoke because it's affecting somebody else's health sure sure but i i've i tried smoking when i was a kid everyone's like here try a cigarette try to cigarette don't like it i don't want to smoke don't smoke i don't smoke weed i don't i used to drink i don't drink right i don't tell people they can't do it and so if i go to an establishment and they say you want to smoke and people are smoking and I don't drink. Right. I don't tell people they can't do it. And so if I go to an establishment and they say, you want to smoke and people are smoking and I don't like it, you know what I do? I just leave. I leave.

Right. It's really simple. Yeah. It's not very hard. I just get up and walk out. Yeah. Yeah. So I totally agree with that.

You know, I like, I like, I like both. And, you know, cause it's sometimes you got a family restaurant and it's like, oh yeah, I got a smoking section. And it's just like, maybe restaurants should have been the ones to dictate that right but um i think if they lose the business because families don't want to go there go yeah exactly somebody should and that's that's why i say like that ruins capitalism right you come in you set this ordinance that says hey you know smoking's bad for everybody when you could have just waited for some cabins and said, hey, look, we don't allow smoking in our building.

Everybody come here. And then all the non-smokers would go there, and then the smokers would go here, and everybody's happy. You know what I think would happen is they would slowly start making the smoking areas smaller and further away. You know what the difference between smokers and non-smokers is? What is it? Smokers tip better.

Really? They tip better? Oh, yes. Really? Smokers used to tip better bro really why is it uh because they're cooler people oh yeah that explains it yeah i mean these are these are people that are cool down to earth they kind of smoke i used to oh okay i smoke weed every now and then um i'll have a cigarette every now and then if i'm having alcohol like you know

whatever whatever but i'm not a smoker i used to be a smoker but nah man you know uh you know non-smokers tend to be like you know real snooty and you know is that how i is that how i go you smoke right i don't we yeah that's been a while though i'm i'm i'm uptight and snooty and arrogant yeah me too how dare you sir come into my home with your cigarettes. Yeah. So we got that Puritan movement that was in, you know, was heavy in the United States. And in some ways I agree. In some ways I don't. And I agree in a lot of ways culturally.

But when they start like legislating stuff, I'm like, ah, that's where I'm partnering with you, man. It's, you know, it's not just one way or the other. It's not black or one way or the other it's not it's not black or white there's nuance some some things that make sense to say you can't do like asbestos maybe you know what i mean right because people aren't aren't realizing that's around them yeah and then all of a sudden you get some something happens people get sick there's also the issue when it comes to smoking i can understand the point i don't necessarily agree with it that people don't realize how much damage they're doing by having these establishments where people smoke yeah so for instance you might not

mind smoking right you might not mind the smoke from other people right but it's messing you up a little bit yes so you go into the bar and you're like i don't care it doesn't bother me but now it's creating a net negative for the you know for everybody else indeed but the problem i have with that is the logical conclusion is to just take everything take anything pleasurable just you know lock people down and that that's to conclusion is to just take anything pleasurable, just lock people down. And that's, to me, that's just... It's ridiculous. You remember what Bloomberg did when he banned soda, large sodas?

What? What'd he do? Michael Bloomberg in New York banned large soda. Right. I'm pretty sure he did. I don't know if he... Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then you know what he said when he was asked about it? What? Tax the poor. He said the poor people make poor decisions. He basically said that. He said, you've got poor make poor people make poor decisions he basically said that he said you've got all these poor people that waste their money on things that are bad for their health and if we were managing their lives for them they'd be better off yeah yeah i mean the government government just just they suck at holding you know some people accountable

which is why they shouldn't be allowed to make these decisions because if it was me i would just ban soda period like look don't sell no don't sell no soda so that my state done there's sugar you would ban soda i'd ban soda i mean if i was an evil dictator oh i'd ban cilantro i'm kidding i just don't like it sugars i don't like i don't like fennel, anise, caraway, and cilantro. Get it out. Just get rid of it. Yeah. I go back and forth with the existence of the state. I'm like, I don't like the existence of the state, but if I'm dictator. Well, yeah.

So hold on. Here's always a big challenge, right? Yeah. Do you think China is doing their best to dominate, to take over, to seize power and land and resources? Oh, they're doing such a great job. So what would happen if we didn't have the state? They just walk right in. What do you mean walk right in? They already took over.

They own this. What do you mean walk right in? Well, Joe Biden's president-elect, they said. So I guess so. They own our debt. They trade our debt. They own land. They own large swaths of land in the Western U.S.

Yeah, Chinese military on every corner. You can't even buy something that's not from China. Seriously. Like, what do you mean? Well, I got this. Aren't my pillows from America? They are from America. Yeah.

Yeah. I got one of those MyPillow things. Yeah, you know, MyPillow. Yeah. The pillow guy. What part of it is from America? What part of it's from China? Oh, wait.

He's got the Giza sheets from Egypt. Oh, okay. He actually gets them from Egypt. No, I'm pretty sure they make the whole thing in America. They do. Nice. That's dope. They source it here as well.

Yeah. Yeah. Props to stuff like that, right? So if people really cared, those industries would thrive. People say, look, let's start with pillows, right? The great pillow revolution. And then everybody just slowly transfer that, right? I think we need to start with shoes right the great pillow revolution and then everybody just slowly transfer that right i think we need to start with shoes and if you want if you want to screw over china start with shoes yep recovered plastic and graphene you want to you want something yeah i

like that too yeah you want to hear something crazy who's that you want to know how they make skateboards how the wood comes from typically canada okay they send it to china they cut it and turn it to a skateboard and ship it to california amazing what is china doing that we can't do i'm gonna tell you what listen listen what this is what's crazy yeah it is cheaper because of the labor costs yes and get the wood from canada ship it thousands of miles to china yeah then thousands of miles back because people in america for labor cost too much money. No, because we have something called minimum wage. That's the problem. And China doesn't

have no minimum wage. They're going to pay you whatever the heck to get it done. And I like that. No, no. I think, you know what it might be? It might be free trade. How so? So, if we just said, if a skateboard is being imported and it costs and it's undercutting american goods we put

a tariff on it yeah that's one way to do it you know but again that's like utilizing the government i just say you know um let people like repeal these laws like repeal minimum wage and then that becomes a school project what if kids in schools for school projects made skateboards and every kid that wanted to make skateboards spent an hour making skateboards a day all across the nation it's pretty fun right like what if that was a job for skateboarders like yo bro you want to really rad work for a day and you know like there's ways that these things can happen and besides machines are going to do it so you really just feed it into a machine and the machine skateboard to work i don't know i don't know if they do it that way i is there some hand hand tooling like yeah so you you put it's the seven layers of wood and then the mold and

they put the glue on it and then they press it and they hold it down for a certain amount of time okay i i they probably have some kind of mass production process for sure especially in china yeah you know you know the big problem is though is that very obviously and uh with all due respect the boards that come out of china are not good no kidding i could imagine they're just trying to meet meet a quota and ship them out that's i said you got to have people who like actually care about it if a skateboarder made a skateboard every one would come out perfect you know but the big companies that know how to do it get the labor and everything done in china, those are really, really, those are the best. Okay.

So when the wood comes from U.S. or Canadian rock maple and gets sent over and then press and everything gets sent back and they quality test it and they know what they're getting. So when does the Tim Pool skateboarding manufacturing company come? Actually, yeah, we're going to do it. We're totally doing it. That's dope. So we got the detached building outside. They're turning it into a skate park. Okay.

And then we've got a back room and I'm just going to start making a bunch of gear. That's how you do it. Yeah, we'll have detached building outside. They're turning it into a skate park. Okay. And then we've got a back room, and I'm just going to start making a bunch of gear. That's how you do it. Yeah, we'll have some beanies. We'll have some shirts. We'll have some skateboards. And we're going to film videos. Save America, one skateboard at a time. That's correct.

Made in America. So here's a challenge, though. Dude, everything's made in China. Right. So I've looked at some American companies, and they're like, they're not that good. Because they're expensive, for one. I don're not that good because they're expensive for one. I don't mind that. But that means people buy it from me.

I'm not looking to make a hard profit off of the goods. I'll probably sell them at cost to cover costs because we're going to be doing videos. We're going to be doing YouTube. And so we'll probably try and find ways to monetize in other directions. But it's still going to be expensive compared to these boards they sent over to China because the labor is so cheap. Man goes to Chinese man. He said, Chinese man, you're getting this materials from another Chinese man for double the price you're getting it that I'm offering. Chinese man go, yeah, but I buy from Chinese man.

Yep. You see that? He'll pay double to keep the money in the fam, to keep the power of the supply chain before he allows you to infiltrate the industry. That's a culture. That's what Americans don't got. They don't got that culture where they say, I'll do without unless one of my own makes it. It's that independent spirit. Yeah. Individualism.

And stop asking trump to do it trump got enough swamp creatures around him to worry about help him yeah you think he's gonna win no i want him to i mean you know we got a old girl with the kraken what's her name sydney powell yeah you know allegedly she got the crack and it's like let that thing out you know we only got like two three i mean i mean she had it she would have released the joint right maybe not uh the the argument is that she's got to wait to present it to a judge right and i think it's a fair point if she started going into the media and dumping all these documents yeah the judge would get mad well that too and then people could tear it apart and start to plan for

it i know they're gonna have to have some time for discovery don't give your enemies yeah your strategy so i get it there's a lot of things that we don't understand about the legal system that has to take place. So I'm putting my trust in Sidney Powell and Giuliani and hoping that they know what they're doing. Right. And and I think there's a chance that they might be able to bring something before the Supreme Court and keep President Trump. And I think that there there is a play to be had there because the media is going to take a ton of money. They're going to win big off of Trump because people will be mad for another four years. You know how much that's worth, the equity in that?

So I'd love to see it. I'd love to see the left crying and in tears again. They're going to torch the streets, though. You remember 2016? Yes. You said you were laughing. Yeah. I was having a good time.

Right. We saw this like – throughout the night, there was a slow motion breakdown where new york times had that meter and it was like 99 hillary clinton yeah and throughout the night it slowly started moving over yeah and you could see with each passing moment the meter moving the sweat was getting thicker and thicker and like the freak out and then once it crossed over to 50 50 they're like shaking yeah i was in a room with i was with i was hanging out cassandra fairbanks and she was all for Trump but she was like I know he's not gonna win and everyone else this office were like snooty democrat pro-Hillary throughout the night she started smiling and laughing everyone else was freaking out crying once once they called it for Trump I just was laughing I hilarious yeah but I tell you

this man if Trump pulls it off whatever their plan is maybe there's a crack and i don't know i think i think chances are slim like you said you don't think he's gonna win but we'll see but i'll tell you this i hope he does though they went out dancing in the street this time who's a million mecca march no no no all the democrats when they oh yeah when this happened yeah they're popping champagne they're pulling their masks off sharing bottles yeah could you imagine a month-long slow motion defeat compared to a one-day slow motion defeat compared to a one day slow motion defeat i'm hoping that's what happened instead of instead of just a like a half an hour of them get like nervously shaking it's gonna be a week of them like freaking out if we get to that

point yeah yeah but the other side of me says if if biden is true and indeed the the president then we get to see the disappearance of black lives matter and i'd love to see them disappear right black people we go back to the back of the bus and and and i like it better there we're you know white people leave us alone and stop trying to use us for their agendas because if biden's president you can no longer say there's a police brutality problem because that would mean you voted him in. That's true. That's the difference. So this stuff started under Obama.

Yeah. And then. Well, it didn't start under Obama. Right, right, right. Yes. Well, Black Lives Matter officially formalized. Correct. But the things that were happening were happening for a while.

Right. But now the big difference with Biden is that they voted him in. Right. So you can't complain now. You had back during Ferguson and stuff. Like, I didn't vote for Obama the second time. I voted him for the him in. Right. So you can't complain now. You had back during Ferguson and stuff. Like I didn't vote for Obama the second time. I voted him for the first time. Okay.

And then immediately regretted it. Right. Because he started the war and all that. He started doing more war stuff. Yeah. But I knew a lot of people who were like, I didn't vote. I didn't vote for him. I don't care.

You know, they were young. They were 18. It was 2012, 2013. So they didn't vote for him the first or second time. Yeah. Now they did. Now they did vote for Biden. Right.

So now it's like when all this stuff keeps happening. You got nobody to blame yourself. And what's going to happen is somebody is going to capture some police brutality on film. They're going to record it. It's going to go viral on Twitter or something else. And then they're going to ask themselves, why isn't MSNBC covering this? Why isn't CNN? And it's like, well, do you remember that under obama's presidency

when black lives matter first hit the scene and it was a hashtag they wouldn't let the hashtag trend and they gave it unfavorable coverage those are the times we're going to go back to and i like those times when they ignore black people because that's when we really start coming together it works really well for us when the white liberals in our business it just sends us awry this is this is what i can't stand uh about the modern left though i grew up on the south side of chicago we had people of all different races and backgrounds uh-huh never really came up like what race yeah yeah it was it was like we had i always tell the story we had one friend who would call everybody by their racial

slur but we thought it was funny yeah because we grew up watching south park and family guys so it was like oh it's very toxic culture yeah you think so well according to left standards oh right right right but having a friend walk up and be like you know he's like yo what up and then you know spout like a slur i'd be like well what up dude and we'd like what's going on we like it was like we were all hanging out it was never an issue to anybody yeah those are the great 90s early 2000s and then i went to occupy wall street and all of a sudden they were, we got to put all the different races in different groups. No joke. They had voting bodies.

Which Occupy Wall Street? New York. Zuccotti Park? Yeah. You know Dwayne Henry? I'm pretty sure. He ran media there. Had the long, thin locks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my homie. Right on. Yeah. Yeah, well, they created caucuses where they put different races in different voting groups. Really? I'm not a fan of that, no. Wow, I didn't know that i used to pop up there every once in a while give a few speeches

you know ruffle a few feathers and argue with people did you have the same hair because i might have seen you there it was super short there right on it was just growing in yeah that's young daddy boston i was young hotel jesus i was hanging out there i'd sleep in the park like really yeah okay yeah totally it was a good time. It was fun. But think about the premise of that. A lot of crazy people, though. What was the premise of that?

Federal Reserve. I mean, it was. Initially. It's the same problem now. They're blaming Trump for all the woes, whereas we're printing up trillions and trillions of dollars. But you see how the original movement was centered around the big problem, the real problem. And it should be too and then all of a sudden it shifted to all these other problems i went to this million mega march and i was talking to people on the street about the federal reserve and everybody would light up when

i would start talking about it have you seen this comic where there's this like it's like a very fancy looking room okay and there's a guy sitting at a desk with like a big fancy chair there's a big window outside the window it's a bunch of protesters and a big sign says occupy wall street being held up and the man sitting at the table smiling and he says introduce identity politics yeah that's what that's really what happened yeah the the people i'm like man the revolution will not be televised your revolution that y'all following is is controlled is controlled opposition and and they saw that they saw quickly with the occupy movement they said oh no we can't have this we got to start controlling

the opposition and then that's what they did with antifa black lives matter and some of these other organizations early on at occupy like the first week there were conservatives and libertarians down there hanging out with these like socialists anarchists really. Really? There was a, there was a, but here's, here's what, here's what happens. Two things. You, you get these Brooklyn progressives, trust fund kids. Okay.

A small handful of them. And yes, they're real. There exists. I know them. And we like, I was friends with them. They didn't have to work.

So they had apartments. They're really well off. And they would come in the morning and then organize. So this ideology became much more pervasive because they could be there and didn't have to work. But the older people who showed up early on and many of the more libertarian people, they worked. So what happens is you take these rich progressives, college students who have nothing, nothing

else to do. Right. They're there all day setting things up, organizing, and then the other people are going to work, coming back, going to work. Eventually the whole place got dominated by just leftist ideology and then the older people after a week were like well i gotta go back to work so they leave and there were even people who weren't necessarily older maybe like uh you know people who were in their 30s at the time 10 years ago now almost 10 years ago and they'd be like i can only be out here for about a week

i gotta go back to my job yeah that was me yep i was wondering i'm like yo how are these people sitting here like don't they got jobs and lives like how are they doing this the people who did eventually had to move on wow and then the people who didn't started coming and hanging out and became dominated by a specific ideology so the leftists took that over too huh yeah and you know the crazy thing about it is is that uh people the history of occupy wall street is is all fake news. Because it was written by those who wanted it to be romanticized the whole time. They won't tell you about how they were stealing money. They won't tell you about the

organizers who started getting $800 a night hotel rooms. They won't tell you about the organizers who took a laptop, was donated for the community and then one of the organizers was like, well, I need it more than they do. Yeah, they don't tell you about that stuff. They don't tell you about how the park got divided into two different groups the general assembly and the general union and the general union said that the resources and donations were being stolen by these trust fund brooklyn kids who don't even

sleep here there was one night where the general union which was this was the west side of the park raided the kitchen they went to the kitchen and said the people who sleep here of the park, raided the kitchen. They went to the kitchen and said, the people who sleep here in the park for your protests, yeah, they need water. And the people who worked the kitchen, who didn't sleep there, said, we don't have any. So they jumped over the table

and flipped some stuff over and found bottles of water and picked them up, carried them out, and started handing them out to people. These are the stories that most people didn't hear. So which side was you backing?

Neither. Oh. Well, in that particular situation, who do you think was in the right? The union. That's the people that stole the water bottles? Yep. Absolutely. But if they're handing them out to people who are rich kids.

No, they were handing them out to the people who were sleeping in the park. But you said the people sleeping in a park were the rich kids. No, no, no, no. The people who are rich would go back to their homes in Brooklyn where they had apartments. Oh. And first thing in the morning show back up clean, clean, pristine, ready to go, and presentable to organize, collect donations, go on TV. And the people sleeping in the park were getting filthy and stinky and gross.

And so those people started getting mad. Like, dude, we're the ones who are making this Occupy happen, and you're the one exploiting it. And guess who got to go on tv and and and do all this you know preaching and stuff it was the kids who had apartments they got to i'm not saying that all of them were rich some of them were some of them were like just as rich as they come some of them were just you know they had apartments in brooklyn and so that already put them an advantage over some of these other people so so so who do we blame that on nobody what's the cause of that

why does why do things like that happen when you have something good why do why do things like that happen i think this was an issue of uh power over time the people who had the state of human consciousness yeah state of the state of human consciousness if you she mentioned before human evolution the human has not evolved the human has devolved we're going backwards in evolution and technology is helping us do that we are not civilized there's nothing civilized about the united states when they came over here and stole land from the natives that wasn't civilized to kill people isn't civilized isn't it different today though no like there's nothing civilized about about garbage being on the street in new york city and it's stinking how is that civilized

no that i would agree with there's nothing civilized about america yes but i think that violence is the default state of the human being i think that violence is what we come from and the fact that we have any kind of peace at all is a form of evolution well my answers would say violence is the default state for the white man. That's my default state for everyone. They would say the white man. That's y'all. Cause y'all said y'all the only ones that say that shit. Really?

Don't look at me. I come from a mixed race family. I'm involved of all these accusations. You guys, you guys telling yourselves, y'all admit it. You say the default state of humans is violence. And the Hoteps say,

no, that's not the default state. Well, Lydia did just say it, but that's the leftists for the most part this like critical race theory you know whiteness stuff i think most conservatives wouldn't say that that's what i don't know what conservatives would say but i hear that a lot from white people because you know you know what's interesting you brought up ian having no faith in people i think it's interesting when conservatives the one advocating for everybody to have guns because they're not worried about if someone else has a gun. Right.

That's interesting. Yeah, because they believe in people more. That's interesting. They actually believe in people. Conservatives believe in people. Liberals do not believe in people, which is why they try to legislate everything against them. That's why I'm saying the white people being the violent one, that's the leftist critical race theory stuff. Yeah, but she's not a leftist and she said it.

How did that get in her brain? i don't know i read a book about it because i who wrote the book if you go through if you go through history though you can read about the aztecs you can read about the mayans you read about the japanese you read about what unit that's true 741 that froze the fingers off people yeah we had fell off i mean dude dude dude shaka zulu was legit a warlord. Shaka Zulu, you talking about, that's post-colonial era. When you got

the colonists coming in and turning the Zulu tribe into 13 different tribes, that's resistance to white power. What about Genghis Khan? Genghis Khan's a white man. We not claiming him. Genghis Khan is a good example.'re not claiming him Genghis Khan is a good example I'm trolling, I'm trolling I got a question for you before we go

I really want to know, have you been to Africa? yes, really, what part did you go to? Tanzania, Dar es Salaam interesting, so what did you see there? did you feel like they were really well evolved? did you find a great deal of peace there? yeah, it's one of the most peaceful places the most violence places the most

violence you'll have is maybe knife violence but you know you're you're pretty much safe in dar salam tanzania there's tons of poverty but the culture there here's the difference the people there can live off the land until they legislate against it right yeah so if i'm hungry i could go climb this tree and have a mango or I can go and fish the sea. There's no communist dictators can tell me, hey, there's no fishing allowed. I watch the people with my own two eyes live off the land, catch crab and catch fish and catch coconut. So it's really interesting that you bring that up because this is something that Thomas Sowell talks about. He talks about the reason that people who lived in the north, people who ended up being white Scandinavians,

having this sense of preparation and needing to sacrifice for the future. Because if they didn't, they'd die in the winter. Correct. Whereas in the African, around the equator, you're warm. You could just drop it by the side of the road. It would grow two weeks later and you'd be good to go. Facts. And he said that this affected our culture very deeply.

Yes. So Thomas Sowell is my strongest influencer. He's the person who makes me think. What about East Asia? I don't know. You see, you know, here's the thing, right? I was hanging out in North Dakota talking to some of these leftists at the North Dakota Access Pipeline protest.

And this guy started telling me, long story short, I said, I've got to make it to LA for a meeting. And the guy said, that's colonial thinking. And I was like, what do you mean? He was like, this idea of schedules, like the Native Americansicans they don't have this man you know they wake up when they gotta wake up they work when they gotta work but like you with a schedule that's that's colonial thinking and then when i was like he said time and scheduling are colonial i said what are you talking about like the east asia developed a whole bunch of stuff well before like white europeans

calendars the the the the compass was a thousand years before uh in china before europe and this dude said yeah but you know europeans went to china and i'm like you know what man and i mean i mean this half jokingly you guys are talking about africa or like northern europe i'm like what about asia huh yeah like we had warlords yeah they brutally raped and murdered people like well yeah you're what is it you're five percent japanese was an accident dude oh yeah right so uh yeah i'm i'm i'm uh part i'm mostly korean but part japanese because you know japan was like brutal yeah taking taking the women you know what i mean but i mean we have to question our own psyche before we even pontificate upon history and the records that we read.

We got to check ourselves. We can't just say that because I've read in a book that human consciousness begins at violence. You can't accept that. You can't accept that just simply for the pure health of the race, the human race. I don't think that it's good. I think our current situation is better which was what makes me think that we have evolved our current situation is better relative to the time

right right i don't i would disagree in some ways and i would agree in some ways right it's better because you're living in it right right and what you read about the old times seems like it's all bad and and i'm like i don't know i i take a time machine back i might be all right i got my girlfriend that nobody wants because i live in the middle of nowhere right whereas today i might have to compete with 20 other dudes on instagram who got money and is dming her life was simpler back then right you know um you know it's crazy about i'm watching these movies like period pieces from like you know 16 1700s yeah is that nothing happened okay relative to today where every day there's something crazy going on right back then you'd

wake up tend to the chickens yeah you know till the field or whatever go but you know go about your work and then it was like once a month when the post writer came by. And you were like, wow, that happened three months ago, huh? That's crazy. Right. It was court drama back then. In the King's Court is where all the drama was. What do you think that does for human consciousness?

Aren't you zenned out? What do people do now when they want to get zenned out? They go to Colorado and they hit the mountains or right burning man i guess you get away from the technology right they have these things called retreats and technology retreats and you get away from the technology and what do people always say like i'm so much different when i come back and then when i've used social media it looks so much different yeah okay so your consciousness changed so what's really altering our consciousness is the millions of thoughts that get dumped into our mind by this device that tells us humans are naturally violent. You ever tried DMT?

Oh my gosh. You're going to hit me with the Joe Rogan question? We got that comic from George A.I. I have not. I don't do. I'm black. I don't do white people drugs. That's smart.

Maybe that's why i didn't because the part asian in me i i i i can't i can't say i won't do it but my mind is so out there i'm scared to do it even further out yeah yeah and i had a friend who who i watched um who was a individual he did some sort of uh psychedelic drug and it reverted him into a 10 year old so now i'm kind of like i've i've i had stories growing up about people who had bad trips and never came never came back yeah yeah that's why i've just been like in a way i'm like in my head now i'm like i don't need to get that much further because i i'm in my head man you know like i have 35 different

personalities and we have great conversations together. That sounds great. You know, and I think I want to stay there. The most I'll do is Adderall. Adderall is a great drug. I think everybody should try it once. No, I think all drugs are bad. I'm not a fan of any of it. You think all drugs are bad? For the most part.

I like that. For the most part. That's cool. I understand that there, like when we're talking about drugs that might actually cure a disease, it's different. Have you ever had Adderall before?

Yeah. Yeah. You didn't like it? Didn't really do anything. What'd you do? What'd you do when you got it? Nothing. You didn't like it? Didn't really do anything. What'd you do? What'd you do when you got it? You just sat there? That's the problem. We walked around. That's the problem. Adderall's not for just sitting and walking

around. Adderall is for getting shit done. I know people who have problems and it's like, these things didn't help them. I know people who have been prescribed medications. It doesn't help them. It doesn't. I think people need to strengthen their willpower and they need to strengthen their core. I'm not going to be as so blind as to say that everybody – like I know people who are on antidepressants because there's nothing they can do.

Like depression is a medical issue. Yeah. It's a dependency. I think there are instances – like I've heard all these stories where someone will say something dumb like if you're depressed, just get over it. It's like, dude, people who are depressed can't do that. Otherwise, they have better solutions. But I do think for the most part, people need to exercise.

They need to eat right. They need to be well-rounded. They need to have some kind of meditation or some kind of... You need mental fortitude and you need to strengthen yourself. You can't just rely on... The cure for... Go ahead.

I actually really think that this ties into what you were saying earlier, which is something that I was going to say that I agree with you on. I'm a huge proponent of understanding yourself. Yeah. I don't think that you get to understand the world until you understand yourself. Got to understand. You can think about yourself for years on end,

not in a selfish way, but in a way that I want to figure out what's going on with the, I would know what I'm thinking. I think this is why Jordan Peterson took off. And I think that if he's turning people away from drugs, that's fantastic. I think that really ties together. You are who you are when you buy yourself. Exactly.

And I try to have the most pure thoughts when I buy myself. That's why I pick up on stuff when you guys say all these pessimistic stuff. I'm like, why do you guys think that about people like pissing on me? Like, that's not even a thought I would allow to enter my mind. You know, like I practice like purification of my consciousness. like pissing on me like that's not even a thought i would allow to enter my mind you know like i i practice like purification of of my consciousness right i would also argue that it's very important to try to entertain other people's ideas and see where i entertain all of them that's that's a major key to yeah that's how i have a cool conversation like you heard when he said you

know like i was like oh i love adderall and he was like you know drugs are bad and i'm like i agree right right like i love that exchange because that's how you sharpen this prism of my mind. Right. Like I get to see the world through your eyes. I get to see the world through his eyes. So next time I'm thinking about anarchy, I'm like,

what are we going to do about people that like pissing on people's faces? Yeah. You got to know about that. Call the cops. Yeah, man. No, we ain't calling the cops.

No, we're dealing with it. We're going to call, we're going to call the HOTEP security team. My little friend. little friend hotep task force but what if the other guy calls his task force and then the other guy calls his task force and then i got it mine is more badass how do you know we build a culture around instead of fighting to solve our problems we just do some kind of you know like sporting event like okay okay everybody stop. Soccer match. We're gonna do it. I had this dude that wanted to kick my ass one day.

Big bully guy. Wanted to kick my ass. You know what happened? Talked my way right out of it. Talked my way right out of it. I've talked people out of so many different situations. It's understanding human psychology. It does wonderful

things. what about like what about like hong kong um so one time i was uh with my homegirl and uh my fiance and we were smooching outside the car some dude rose up on us to rob us he's like yo i just came from the gym i need some money i'm like oh bro how much you need she was gone she hopped in the car lock all the doors i'm sitting outside with this dude who's sweating, got his wife beat around. He's like, y'all need some money. I'm like, dude, how much you need, bro? He's like, yo, I need like $20. I'm like, that's it, bro. I'm like, I looked around, I found an ATM. I'm like, it was an ATM right there. I would give you a ride over there, let you hop in the car, but you scared my lady. Meet me by the ATM. I

got you, bro. I hop in the car gone it's about about knowing yeah it's about controlling your fear yeah identifying emotions thinking on your feet you gotta have that level of consciousness we have to work on our consciousness or i keep saying it man and and and there's a lot of things you can just avoid man i swear to god i talk myself out of a gunfight man yeah dude i believe you i do agree that we are evolving that hominids are not going to be sapien forever that will develop some sort of psychic connection or develop our psychic connection i think no we're destroying that but a lot of people are with food different high fructose with aspartame with you know you know conspiracy staring into a computer

screen with different types of do you know about lemuria um i've heard of lemuria it's an ancient civilization yes atlantis right these are the people that are operating off of the intuition these are people that are operating off of high powers these are people that didn't need cell phones because if i want to talk to you i just look at you and transmit the thoughts i think i wiped out by a comet so they didn't have the tech a comet yeah the comet that shattered over north america and melted the glaciers they didn't have the tech to stop the comet right what if they had the tech to leave the earth and we didn't know it that'd be awesome and they did leave but i don't think they did unfortunately how do you know all signs point if they got covered with mud huh but how do you

know the people didn't leave well there's just no evidence of it there's no evidence that they didn't leave there's evidence that can't prove it covered by mud atlanta that the that the city of the sahara yeah where the bodies all under the mud man i don't know exactly so if you have no bodies all right all right hold on they went to the cradle of civilization how much will it cost to to fund an expedition to go and start doing a dig at the is there 70 million dollars how much would it cost to stop the next comet from wiping us out man it's gonna gdp the planet a lot of energy a lot of focus you think do you think we can do it yeah yeah yeah we can not i love him he's optimistic about the wildest stuff he is with these little problems that we got like people pissing on you oh that's too impossible without government when we come back to humans are wild animals that we got, like people pissing on you? Oh, that's too impossible without government. When we come back to humans are wild animals that we tame.

We basically tamed our bodies. Why are we wild? We're just monkeys, evolved monkeys. That's another white dog. That's another white dog. I think monkeys ate a bunch of mushrooms and evolved over time and inbred and evolved into what we are. That's a European dog. We seem to be.

I mean, we're very similar to monkeys and apes and stuff. But we have this wild animal tendency. We're more similar to plants. But go ahead. Why do you think plants why is that i ain't gonna go into it because i don't know all the science to be saying that shit but if you go look it up are we more similar to apes or plants and tell you a lot about the similarities between the human body and plants we may not have evolved i haven't studied that stuff in years but it seems like well we look very similar to apes so we have this we're what we're animals we're straight up animals don't and we have this wildness to us especially when we get

hungry and desperate so i'm just accepting that trying to figure things out like yeah a guy will pee on you if he has to and he's angry if he has to yeah i have no choice i'm sorry i mean when you when you starve people yeah right but even if you go based upon you know creation theory like god put us in the garden of eden and you know we had food right so i think the herbs is here for us we you know we don't even eat from the earth we eat synthetic foods i think that story was written by like people regardless regardless of what you think of the story regardless what you think of the story i don't believe in the story either but my point is why aren't we living off plants i mean we got a bunch of people downstairs i went vegan for about nine months last year i don't think humans i did about four years vegan i don't think it's rewarded similar to plants and animals that's fine i think that's cool

my point is this we gotta stop saying we're animals because of the dogma that comes with that it removes all responsibility of higher consciousness so would you say we just act like monkeys we're not monkeys if we were monkeys why are the monkeys still here you're well i mean you're not a religious person though like not where are you coming from you said what you're not a religious person so where are you coming from i'm not a religious person you're not where am i coming from yeah yeah so well you're talking about how people are they're not evolved from monkeys there's something better something different to me that sounds like a lot like christianity which is where i was raised this is the way you were raised i hold i hold i hold a lot of different

theories right so i hold the theory that we're we're actually an ancient race that was created using monkey dna anunnaki chimeras you know the anunnaki yeah that so i'll hold that theory i'll hold the creation theory the evolution thing kind of sidesteps me that doesn't that doesn't really hold truth with me you know um i'm not gonna say that but yeah i i i i don't believe we are humans i believe i mean i don't believe we are animals um i believe that we are in many ways guardians and you said religious right so i don't practice you know a specific religion i borrow from all of them, but I'm very religious. Like I religiously pray before I eat. I religiously pray, you know, throughout the day. You know, Muslims pray five times a day. I try to pray like 10, you know, or when I'm conscious of it or, you know, even in a moment or if for example like when kanye was on joe rogan he had took a minute to pray when i see things happen in the media i take a moment to pray

so i'm very religious in that sense i'm you know the i don't believe in the abrahamic religions because i know all of that stuff comes from the nile valley civilization but i still appreciate the stories you know i appreciate the bud. I appreciate the Buddha theory. I don't jive with Buddhism because I feel like we shouldn't sidestep the human body. The human body is very important but I think there's a lot of spirituality missing from these religions.

From people? From the translations of the books. The things that Jesus was pulling off, he wasn't pulling it off because he was special. from, from, from the translations of the books, you know, like the things that Jesus was pulling off, he wasn't pulling it off because he was special. He was pulling it off because he learned it. He studied for 12. He studied,

he studied for 12 years. I heard that he went to India and studied Reiki and Hinduism came back with that healing energy. You should do Reiki, man. Reiki is a fix. I'm not an electromagnetic field surrounding your body you can divert and maneuver the energy yeah it's called aura yeah yeah you

move your aura you can like put it into people and withdraw it from them intermingle it with other auras yeah the earth's aura yeah i mean again i just don't deal with all these like different sex and titles you know like oh this is reiki and this is that the the bottom line is everything is energy right and we have this energetic field around us but the earth is is basically dominated by two forces electric electricity and magnetism electromagnet magnetism one operates in space one operates um in in matter right so the magnetism of things there's a lot to be said about that um for example like when we get into emoto masa rule and he talks about what sound can do to water and and sound technology so on so forth so then you

start talking and saying things and i'm just like don't say that don't bring that thing into existence don't say that we're animals don't say you know that we're violent say something positive and and you know we create this reality through our words right so we got to start saying stuff like donald trump will find a way to win yeah i'm kidding by the way absolutely don't write about positive by the way. Absolutely don't. You're right about positive manifestation because people's minds don't understand double negative. So if you say don't get angry, you're putting the word angry out there.

Correct. And they're going to hear angry, angry, angry. I was going to say it sounds like what Ian says. But also I've just accepted a sense of realism about things. I don't know. Maybe I can go back into the positive manifestation path. I did it for like six years. I got really alienated from people.

Right. Because it's, it was harder to relate. So, you know, I just think there's a lot to be done as far as telepathy is concerned. A lot to be done as far as intuition is concerned. Do you believe,

do you believe telepathy is possible? Just say no. No, I wouldn't say no. Say no, Tempo. I need evidence. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Right.

You need evidence. I'm open to it. So that is logical. Yeah. I said the same thing. I need evidence. So I started doing it, and I gave myself the evidence. Or we get Neuralink.

Elon Musk comes in, plugs everybody in, and we can all talk through our brains. No, that's a terrible idea. Right. That's what I said. Terrible idea. So I did this experiment with my kids, right? And we pull out three Uno cards. And they got numbers on them and they got colors on them.

And what we do is a telepathy game. And what I found is that I have one son who looks like his mother then the other two are brown and they all look like me so it's three of us versus the other two when we checked it out the three browns against the light skins they communicated very well between the mother they were able to guess one time my my my daughter and her little brother were doing it and she said i heard it she heard him scream in her mind telepathically now you're going to tell her there's no evidence when she heard the voice that's her i think it's real personally i've experienced i'll tell you a story i met i knew this guy who's a religious he's a christian and uh i asked him you know how did you become

christian and i've heard the story before too from other people but he said that he used to be just like this like gutter punk drug addict he would go and party one day he was coming down from doing a bunch of drugs and partying all night woke up in the morning in the middle of like he's like near like in the middle of the woods with his friends and he went out to take a go take a leak when all of a sudden he heard this voice come from within him telling him that he like what are you asking him what are you doing with your life why are you doing this you got to do something else and he said like that freaked him out he got immediately got like a panic attack was like stressed like what's happening and the voice basically told him knock it off stop and then

from then you know he tried to figure out what that voice was and he believes that it was either you know guardian angel of some sort or god i don't i don't i would say it was his intuition maybe we all have a voice inside our head that told us not to do something we did it anyway we're like i should have listened but the point was that never happened to you temple where something told you not to do something you did it anyway yeah so what So what was that voice, Temple? Well, that inner monologue? Yes. That's me.

That's you. We're part of you. How did it know the future, but you didn't listen? Because it was you said not to, and then another you did it anyway. So which one is you, Tim? They're both. They're both you. Yeah.

So which one is the better one? Well, one of them said we should which one has higher intelligence temple the one that was able to predict the future the one that was wrong and went and did that thing anyway well i don't think it was i don't think that's two different entities i think it's just me and the first thing i thought was i shouldn't do this and i'll do it anyway and then oops see this is this is the problem that religious people have with people like you right you guys don't know how to submit to a higher power. You think all the power lies within you, and that's where the power starts to corrupt,

and we end up pissing on people's heads. I don't piss on anybody's head. We were just talking about the elf, the extremely low frequency vibration in the human resonance in the Earth's magnetosphere. I believe it's in the magnetosphere. It's a resonating calculatable vibration that changes it and sometimes you get these spikes in the human resonance when consciousness human consciousness is like working in coercion when a lot of people are thinking about something yeah and sometimes i think that those those intuitive thoughts that

come are actually coming from the earth's yes magnetos like it's a connected sphere yes we're all connected we are all one we are you you are mine it's super chat time it is i'm just like super chat time it's well past super chat all being one yeah we went we went late on this one yeah oh definitely dude yeah we got i've been i've been saving this i've been saving this one super chat i saw just just so we're gonna get started scott harris says i never donate to anything because i'm broke and I'm a broke bike messenger. But this episode is amazing. Hotep isn't just woke. He's up and out of bed.

That's right. I like that. Yeah, that's good. Let's go. Out of bed. All right, let's see what we got. Let's see. A lot of people just saying, cheering for you.

A lot of super chats. Are they? That's great. Thank you, man. Love my Hotep brothers. I thought they were going to be cussing me out. Nah, man. We like you. I mean, probably some people. Well man i mean probably some people i'm sure somebody's cussing me out no i think people dig it space wolf says what most don't seem to realize about civil conflict

is that the target will not be uh will not be just people but infrastructure industry and resources of our economy a dozen men cause 9-11 how does it take. How many does it take to poison a water supply, etc.? That's crazy. That's crazy to think about. The woke. Yeah. Mikhail says, you should take a look at eviction moratoriums in Democrat states. I don't know if you know about them, but it's insane.

By the way, I love the show. Keep up the good work. Oh, thank you. Will do. Dropping gems. Let's see. We got way too many superchips today. Do you meditate simple?

Sort of. Sort of. Yeah, sort of. You have to tap into superchats today. Do you meditate simple? So many. Sort of. Sort of. Yeah, sort of. You have to tap into the better tent pool. Oh, yeah? There's a better tent pool in there you have to tap into. I don't know. This is a pretty good one.

I like it. All right. We got superchat. Lauren says, after suffrage, mediocre lib women needed a cause and used black trauma as the vector. ADOS are the only absolutely wronged group in America. The Japanese internment being next. Let white,

YT women, is that white women? Will always be Miss Millie's to me, the color purple. F BIPOC, YT made me edit. Interesting. I love white women.

Yeah? Yeah. I like people. I like, I love how white women embrace their femininity. It's different. I love how black i said i tweeted the other day i love how white women embrace their femininity and a lot of people took it as disrespect to black women but i love the way black women embrace their femininity it's different it's just completely different i enjoy the way these different

cultures embrace their femininity and for someone who hated white people for so long i'm just now like trying to learn and love them and i love but white women you know when we go look at how they used to be trafficked you know back in the days of tammany hall in new york white women didn't have it too easy in america either yeah a lot of a lot of people love you man we're like um different cultures but not different races the human race and then we just have different skin colors but we're just different cultures sometimes you ever you ever noticed that the only race problem is between white and black people that's kind of weird pretty much it's weird yeah i don't think it's the only but i think yeah it's the most highlighted unknown people get afraid of what they're not familiar with

it can be used we got we got not always they don't but sometimes we got the super chat here leor says wow wow, wow, wow. Tim, I've never been more envious of you. I am more envious now than when you had on the legendary Alex Jones. Hotep Jesus, I just found out about you. And this short time, you have gained a fan. Yes. Very cool.

Yeah. We win. Love it. Yes. Dippity says, please invite Shoe on Head or Chris Ragon to come on the show. Yes. Yeah, we'll invite anyone, right? Shoe on Head or Chris Ragon to come on the show. Yes. Yeah, we'll invite anyone, right?

Well, I'll say this. Shoe's been invited, but she was unable. Chris Ragon, I'll invite 100%. He has really bad anxiety. I do remember that. Oh, really? Yeah, I wish he would. But Shoe's got an open invite. Remind me to tell you the cure for depression before we leave.

Okay. The cure, what is it? I don't know. Creativity, health. I think it's right. Oh, Koli and it? I gotta know. Creativity, health. I think it's right. Oh, Coleon Noir says, great discussion. Oh, snap.

Yeah, thanks for the super chat, bro. The Coleon? Yeah. No way. Vimhoff's dragon breath? Does that cure depression? No, I've not heard this. Vimhoff is the dude

that runs around in the Arctic cold with his bare feet. Yes, yes, I have heard of him. Richard Dibble says, hey Tim, my first time seeing you was on Joe Rogan's show

Where you absolutely dismantled Jack Dorsey And I've been hooked listening to you since I've never donated to anyone within your line of work before But I truly appreciate what you do Cheers to my favorite milk toast fence sitter Hey, appreciate it man Tim's a hero I don't know man, I'm just someone who complains about his feelings on the internet

You're a hero, you're my hero Aw, that's nice Yeah, he brought you a beanie i mean who else would invite me to their home to record i don't know i don't know i follow you on twitter it's like i was saying earlier on i'm like uh most of the people we have on it's usually like oh it's i know that guy from twitter and he says smart stuff yeah okay yeah well you're my hero man because nobody else is gonna give me a big platform to speak to people. You went on Rogan. He's my hero, too.

There you go. Okay, right on. I accept that. Thank you for the compliment. Yeah, it's like you and Rogan are my heroes. Wow. I need murals of you two now. Jeez.

Just a little. In my home. We just do it. It's going to be like Tupac, Malcolm X, Tim Pool, and Joe Rogan. That's right. You're slowly getting more. I mean, there's a lot we've disagreed on. Yeah, and that's beautiful. I think so. I agree.. You're slowly getting white. I mean, there's a lot we've disagreed on. Yeah.

And that's beautiful. I think so. I agree. Absolutely. I agree with that. We're supposed to disagree. We're not supposed to completely agree all the time. It's boring.

Yeah. That would suck. Stale. That would suck. Because you balance me out. You keep me grounded. And I elevate you. All right.

I'm going to read this one. Do it. I'm just going to. Is it hard? But I'm not going to say who it's from. Because someone said, I would pee on Ian this one. Do it. I'm just going to. Is it hard? But I'm not going to say who it's from because someone said I would pee on Ian. No, you're lying. Come on.

Stop it. Don't run into that person, Ian. What have I manifested? Oh, my God. What have you seen that you did? I don't see what you did. You're right about saying these things, Ian. Joseph Aaron says, have y'all seen Shelby Steele's new movie, Who Killed Michael Brown?

What are your thoughts If you have I haven't seen it No Have you heard of it at all No Not me neither I'm in a bubble

I'm in a tech bubble Get out man I just work on my tech companies Yeah you got a bitcoin company Yeah coinbitzapp.com Super cool Super cool We bring boomers to bitcoin

Cool That's hot That's a good market It's a great market It's an untapped market You think bitcoin's gonna hit 300 and something K No uh they're just pumping i mean at some point not this year i mean you might have all-time highs of 30k max but 300k is just absurd they said what jp morgan said by like the end of 2021 300k 300k yeah they're trying to get people got and then

they're gonna sell yeah yeah you're gonna see another tank after this they're gonna they're trying to get people got. And then they're going to sell. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to see another tank after this. They're going to rally it up, sell it, then it collapses and they're in buyback. Yeah. The best thing to do is dollar cost average. If you dollar cost average, you would have made a boatload. You know, when I said it on coinbitzap.com and I said it, I forget it. It'll just take, you know, let's say 100 bucks a week out of my account or 50 bucks or 10 bucks, whatever your budget is.

They just take it out of your account and buy Bitcoin at whatever price it is that week you want to hear a funny story what's that 2011 i'm sitting in my friend's hacker space i'm on my computer and i come across bitcoin it was at 75 cents per bitcoin i had five grand chilling because i'd saved up for my job and i was like i want i went this man this is nine years ago so i'm in my i'm like 24 or 25 and i'm thinking like i gotta do what rich people do like i gotta invest or something right so i look at my buddy and i was like hey did you see this bitcoin thing yeah i was like it's 75 cents i could get like 6 000 something right now and he goes dude don't do it man it's gonna be a scam you're gonna buy it up and then it's gonna be just like worth nothing and i was like yeah and then i didn't

buy it he might have been right i would have be just like worth nothing. And I was like, yeah. And then I didn't buy it. He might have been right. I would have had 6,000 something. I know. He made a good point. It might have been a different dimension. Yeah, exactly. It's not even that. It's my buddy saying, dude, don't spend your savings on some random thing.

That's awesome. The only question that remains is, did you pee on his head? No. Did you? No, and that's the worst part of it. Did you pee on his arm? Oh, my gosh. On his hand?

I don't want this out there guys stop it i don't like it stop it all right we got wait we got some more sweet chips we got some more sweet chips will charlton says no u.s marine here i actually love america mainly because of the constitution which i swore an oath to protect love you tim lydia ian and hotep well thank you i'm not gonna respond i think all i'm gonna say is thank you for serving our country, sir. Yeah, dude. But I believe that people who are in the military have that mindset. That's part of the-

Yeah, it's part of being- Yeah, it's part of your job. I get it. You got to believe in the country. Alan Brady says, loving the stream so far. Hey, chat, I'm polling you on if you want to see Tim Pool bring on Chris Chappell from China Uncensored. I do. Also, if you want to see tim pool bring on chris chapel from china uncensored i do also if you don't recognize the name or the channel go discover it it's very good

i mean i'd be down there's a there's a bunch of youtubers who cover china that i really would love to have on but it's getting it's getting crazy because we're doing all the lockdowns now who's doing the lockdowns all these all these states on the east coast like new jersey new york countries dude and then we're probably gonna yeah countries, too. So it's getting harder and harder. Like, I thought things were going to ease up because I want to get Sargon and Count Dankiel out here,

but I can't because the lockdowns. That would be epic. Yeah. Those guys are great. Yeah. Super fun. Yeah. Fun, fun guys, man.

Big thinkers. I like them. All right. Let's see what we got here. Josh Cruz says, best Tim Kass by far. People of different opinions sitting down and having

a genuine conversation and listening to each other's point of view and not getting angry when someone disagrees america america could accomplish anything if all people were like this yeah i think i i think so too because like even when you say something i don't necessarily agree with we all have a laugh while talking joke about it and right now yeah man i think the minds in this room should be the government of the united states of america just us just us four we yeah yeah i think so the council the government of the United States of America. Just us? Just us four. Yeah, I think so. The council of TimCast IRL featuring

Hotep Jesus. Yes. I just want to control the army. I know. I'll take finance, I guess. What do you want, Ian? I'll be the president. You'll be the president? I'll do whatever you guys need. I'll be secretary of state.

No, he said military, right? Secretary of defense. Yes, I guess that does make me the president. no i'll be secretary of state no he's he said the you said military right secretary yes i guess that does make me the president i'll be the supreme court she says she's going to control the women that's right i'm in charge i'm aunt lydia you're welcome i'll control the women that's right good luck guys i'm just feminists are gonna lose it someone's got a criticism they say violence that's white people from a guy who said every kid should have a gun and a diaper when they're born ooh that was someone who remembered that

I like that he's absolutely right though right like here I am saying that we're not naturally violent but on the other hand I'm like yo have a gun everybody should have a gun from the diaper right so can i explain myself yeah of course i don't want somebody else having a monopoly on violence but it's not about having a gun because i want to shoot somebody it's about having a gun because i don't want to get shot i'm a believer in peace and what do you

call a really big gun you call it a peacekeeper that's right yeah it's called a peacekeeper when you talk about going to war they call it peacekeeping yeah right yeah but they're trying to i know the orwell thing right yeah i'm being i'm being facetious but my point is there's nuance to this conversation we are at a certain level of consciousness and at the level of consciousness guns are a thing and at the current state of consciousness it's not fair to have a monopoly on guns but that's not to say that our original purpose or we were you know inherently violent i don't agree with those are two separate things i think that's just the state of our consciousness we got another super chat for you though though. Balian says, Tim, nah, man, you need to challenge

him more on that. Hotep, you need to go read about the Tutsi massacre in Africa. Literally turned on their neighbors and massacred them. Humans are dark, period. Jocko had a podcast on it. It's brutal. People always talk about the Tutsis. Yeah, so I didn't bring them up for a reason.

What's your reasoning? What happens when you destabilize an entire continent? Exactly. It's white people. That's what it is. It's white people fault. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. All right, we got a super chat.

Rarity says, hi, Tim. Hi, Lydia. Hi, Hotep. Y'all are cool AF. Ian is just regular cool. Also, hate to get off topic. What kind of deck did you run when you played Magic? I got a bunch of decks right now, mostly Commander.

So, I don't know. What are they, two more tarot cards it's a it's a strategy game oh like uh dungeon and dragons i mean kind of it's like but it's uh you have a deck of cards you draw them and you the cards do things so it's it's the superpowers it's like chess and poker combined that's the way to explain it so it's's like... It's really fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's five different cards. Do you throw fireballs or... Yeah, sort of. Fireball's a red spell that you can cast. Yeah, there's red, white, black, green, and blue magic. And they all kind of...

Like red is fire, chaos, and blue... Who's GM? There's none. It's just... No GM. They play you off the cards. It's like chess. Oh, that's interesting.

So it's like chess and poker combined. So you're playing turn-based back and forth, but instead of just a row of pieces, you've got a deck of 60 or 100 cards. Like Pokemon cards. Yeah. I like that. That sounds like fun. It is fun. It is fun.

I'm into white boy shit like that. But a lot of people need to understand that when it comes to magic, most people who play it aren't playing it because it's themed like wizards and stuff. Right. They're playing it because it's like chess. Okay. It doesn't matter that the card you have is like warrior, knight, or whatever. It's just like the card has this value,

the card does this thing, and then you calculate and strategize against your opponent. Don't describe it as chess. I play chess. It's nothing like chess. No, it is. Well, okay.

It's in the sense of a turn-based strategy game, but with cards. But the cards are random. Not necessarily. You build your deck. You don't get the same deck every time. In chess, you get the same pieces every time. with cards okay it's more like cards are random not necessarily you build your deck and so you don't get the same deck every time in chess you get the same pieces every time that's why that's why it's that's why it's like poker as well but with with 60 cards you've got 20 which are resource

cards and you have 40 and then you have four of each for the most part so it's typically predictable i gotcha but there's a lot of pro magic players who are also pro pro poker players there was there was an old joke back when I was younger playing magic. They said the reason why that is, in poker, you're trying to figure out what your opponent has out of 52 cards. In magic, you're trying to figure out what your opponent has out of 13,000. And you can also calculate the odds of what you're going to draw if you're counting cards. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff like that. Say it's like chess 960 because chess 960 is random.

960 is cool. I never played it, though, but I read about it. Bobby Fischer wanted to make things, you know, spice it up, right? Bub Savvy says, the range of human morality is not exclusive to any one race. You have to empower the individual before you can expect anything from the collective. He is absolutely correct. So let me clarify earlier. I said that's white people stuff.

And the reason why I said that is because it's mostly white books that say that like white authors usually in the hotep community we don't write that into existence or you'll hear white people say and that's why i say that's white people ish yeah because i only hear it from i mean i'm gonna hear it from black people of course because they've been indoctrinated by the white liberal. But that's literally some white liberal Haughton Mifflin McGraw Hill taught stuff right there. Haughton Mifflin? Yeah. I remember those books, man.

Yeah. Yeah, the conquistadors wrote a lot of it. The winner writes the history, basically. And his conquerors came and wrote a bunch of history. What about Art of War? Oh, yeah. Tribal Warfare. What about it?

I mean, there's a lot of stuff about violence and war. It comes from... What's the best way to win the war, according to Sun Tzu? The best way? You win it before you start it? I mean, there's a lot of stuff about violence in war. What's the best way to win the war, according to Sun Tzu? The best way? You win it before you start it? Win the war before going to war. But if you run out of water, that's when... I think it all comes from running out of a water supply.

And then the tribe next door would run out of water. And then they'd come over and take your water. And that's kind of tribal war. Man, Japan was crazy. I was watching... I watched a YouTube video about the history of Japan and how it became like unified. Brutal. Just like constant war.

The Edo period. The war in the States. Is that what it was? Yeah. Was it the 1400s with like Tokugawa and Oda Nobunaga? Yeah. Crazy stuff. Vicious.

Brutal stuff. You want to hear a funny story? Yeah. So I went to South Korea. I went to Seoul. I went to this museum where they were explaining their like great, like they were highlighting this great general. And I was like, oh, it's really cool. I'm i'm gonna learn about like you know korean history and stuff and so they have like this one display where it shows this like amazing fleet of

like korean vessels going up against the japanese and it was like and he was victorious and he and he won then you go to like the next slide and it was like in the next great battle he won but now he's got way less ships and the japanese have like the same amount and i was like wait a minute out of like so all of these slides it eventually ends with like his final great battle it's like two ships left and the japanese love the same and i was like so they did was out of a hundred battles where he won three of them they highlighted those as the great victories of their general when he was getting crushed by the japanese fleets yeah i thought that was funny they got I thought that was funny. They got to be proud about something, right? The best place to understand the world is within yourself.

Agreed. All right. Tom Me says, I appreciate your honesty. TY, thank you. Very cool. Chuck says, Tim, why don't you have a law enforcement officer on? I'd love to. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, we'll get one on. Sparky the Pyro says, still here advocating for Trump buying CNN then sitting back and watching the media world implode. Also keep the good work

fighting against the lies and shining floodlights and the garbage. Trump TV coming soon. Do you think so? I don't know if I believe it. I believe it. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a very smart move. Yeah. Let's speak that into existence. Trump TV. Trump TV. Trump TV. Yes.

Trump TV. It flows. Trump TV. Trump TV. It flows. I think you should buy CNN. They wouldn't let him do it. They wouldn't let him do it. Nah, they wouldn't put it up for sale. It's too much power. Well, there's...

No, I mean, that's a rumor going around. That it's for sale? AT&T is $150 billion in debt and CNN is a money pit. Now that... I'll put it this way. Now that they think Trump's on the way out out and maybe he is it seems most like very likely i'm waiting for the electoral college but we'll see but uh their golden goose is gonna be gone what are they gonna do yeah we're gonna talk about trump you know then everybody's gonna go

back to talking about whatever they're talking about before politics became pop culture i don't i don't i don't know vox ezra klein and matthew glacius have quit yeah they've gone to there's three founders the only founder left is Melissa Bell. The other two have left. Matthew Iglesias went independent. Ezra Klein went to the New York Times. Right after the election, they knew.

They were like, if Trump loses, our companies won't exist. BuzzFeed just bought Huffington Post. Grifton season is over. I know, right? Shout out to Uncle Hote. Grifton season.

That's exactly what we were talking about, man. Grifton season. People understand, you know, when it's a good season to grift and when it's not these people man i'm gonna keep doing my thing i'm gonna keep hanging out with people we're talking about stuff i'm looking you're good i'm looking forward to poly is going away dude your grift is good this is my grift is good it's no we're good so grift is it we're losing it very loosely how are we defining grift here we're using it very loosely. How are we defining grift here? I was using it very loosely. Like there's a,

there's a, there's two types of grist grift. According to me, there's one that gives back and there's one that doesn't. Okay. Right. So ours, so where you can grift,

but you're not a grifter. Now a grifter doesn't give back. They just take from the culture, right. And raising money and, you know, for all these little hashtags and you steal and you know, whatever, whatever. That's a grifter. when we grift it's like we know we have to talk about

grind we grind right but we know we have to talk about some things that might not we probably wouldn't talk about in our personal lives we were like no i don't talk about all this stuff you i i i there's a lot of topics that come across my desk that i just wouldn't talk about in my personal life and i just cover them because people go hotep jesus what do you think about this yeah and so you have to cover it it's my duty to cover it that's not grifting you know grifting is like when you lie about someone to generate some kind of clicks you know what i mean right that's why i said it's nuanced to this right we're very playful with it but it it uh i'm looking for the media that season is over

i'm looking forward to the biden president i'm looking forward to the lockdowns being over and for politics to be outside of this so i can go back to talking about cultural issues and movies and you know yeah like i i you know what you know what i did i remember this like a year and a half ago i had a segment it was about a guy was outside of a bar and two women were fighting and then the woman hits the guy the guy hits her back and that and then everyone starts attacking the guy and the guy runs off and gets arrested later on that was it that was the segment i was like man this is crazy why is something like this happening i have a video that's got like one almost two million views it's about why men aren't helping women and children just a cultural issue thing and then all

of a sudden everything just became completely front page dominated by donald trump yeah and so now it's all politics all the time that's that's the pop culture like you said it's politics is pop culture yeah i love talking about culture like we've been doing it's so much more like we're getting so much more out of it than talking about trump and biden i feel like i want to talk about levitating let's do levitating you and ian would get along let me read the super chair real quick. Your favorite sociologist says, Intertribal war existed since the beginning of us. It is why we moved from the area of our development. Populations grew and conflicts arose.

Arab raids happened centuries before whites arrived. Stop the oversimplification. It helps nobody. The Arab conquering of Africa is what led to the destabilization. In fact, the Europeans couldn't conquer until they brought Christianity. At first, it was dominated by the Islamic Caliphate. He's actually very correct in that. But I group I group all y'all together.

So we're as an ignorant hotel. We got we got a super chat. I read tom me says biden will provide enough material i don't know biden's gonna be hiding hiding biden's gonna be in the basement he's not gonna say anything material for who for people to talk about i guess i mean sure that's what the right's gonna do they're gonna grift off of biden just complain about him like people complain about they're already starting i'm seeing it it's great i'm loving it yeah so so now i'm seeing these progressives who used to post on facebook all day trump is bad now all of a sudden going joe biden's appointing lobbyists to his transition team what's happening and i'm like see that here

it comes and you know what fine you know i said to him i was like so they just mean you're gonna start watching my content again because now like now conservatives and progressives are gonna be mad at biden i'm gonna be talking about the same stuff now they're gonna come around they deserve that they deserve to they deserve to watch what they voted for yonder yo that's what you vote joe biden's gonna gonna walk up come on man we gotta put more troops in syria yeah we're gonna be like oh great yeah i know yeah so i'm gonna be like here we go and then the progressives are gonna come around and be like here we go and then the progressives are gonna come around and be like hey we're mad again remember when when jank you give the young turks

said joe biden had dementia yeah in march yeah it was politically convenient because he wanted to support bernie then when it went to biden he was all for biden now it's like give it give you know look joe biden gets inaugurated the progressives are going to come around in two seconds yeah they're going to be like biden's terrible and i'm going to be like i agree because i've been saying that for quite some time yeah i'm just going to be building ai and bitcoin apps that's a good thing to do man you know what we're going to do we're starting this vlog we're going to be skating i think we got someone who might come in to do the vlog and we're just going to skate hang out play music have fun and i want to make sure that we can kind of bring back some levity you know know, some, some chill, some music, some comedy.

Look at the last four years, the conservatives spent the entire time running behind whatever the left was complaining about. Yup. They still do. Like the other day they were talking about Harry Styles and the dress. Yeah. And I'm like, you're behind. Yeah. I'm like, why would I even talk about that?

Right. If that's what Vogue and him want to do, then great. You know, but you know, the conservatives, they, they, you know, some of the prominent ones, they took that and trended and did their thing. And I'm like, you know, that works for you. But for what conservatives are trying to get to when we say these celebrities are not important, we have to completely remove them from the consciousness. Yeah, we have to completely remove those distractions and keep that stuff outside of our bubble and talk about the things we want to talk about. If the nuclear family is under attack, then we talk about how mom can love children better.

While they're talking about Harry Styles and the dress, we're over here dressing real life stuff or skating or tech. And let's just have these conversations and let other people talk about what they want to talk about. I'm not talking about Harry Styles and the dress. Good for him.

If he's happy, I'm happy for him. Right. Dude, exactly. I see that stuff and I'm like, I don't think anything of it at all. Right. I saw that whole fiasco, the trend with like Candace Owens and Ben Shapiro. And I was just like, oh. I mean, she's not lying.

Right. I agree with what she said. What she said is very much truthful. Right. Like, I agree with the she said. What she said is very much truthful, right? Like, I agree with the Marxist agenda. There's no coincidence that there is both of those things happening at the same time. But at the same time, it's like, why are we talking about it? Yeah, seriously.

Especially right now with everything that's going on with the election. Yeah, instead of talking about him, let's talk about somebody who's macho. Or just like Cuomo getting nominated for an Emmy. Oh, gosh. Did we even bring that up? I'm not even. No. Look, people can talk about whatever they want.

I talk about what I feel like talking about. We didn't get to that. Anyway, it's 1030. We went over quite a bit. But Hotep, this is great. Tell me about this. What were you going to say? Well, about what?

Just now you were going to say something. Yeah. I just want to say, I say a lot of inflammatory things to make people jump. Right? And I do that on purpose. Like, for example, I said I group the Arabs and the white people together. I don't mean that. I'm joking. Right.

I mean that in some ways, as in, first the Arabs came and invaded our shit, then y'all came along. Right. So I can group you in that in that, you know, manner. But the one thing we have to understand is that the divide between black and white people has been used for so long. The first divide was between white men and natives. White men realize how crappy this country was and they started defecting and started going and live with the natives. And then they were like, all right, for every white man you catch hanging with the natives, catch him and you scalp him. That's what a scalper really started. Yeah. It was the government versus them. People were deserting. They were like, yo, I'm hungry here under these colonies. And the natives, I'm eating good. And Pocahontas is sexy. So, you know, I'm over here with it.

But again. That was what that story basically was, huh? Was it John Smith? Yeah, John Smith. Right. Yeah. Then the Seminoles in Florida. I encourage people to go look at that history and how they pit native against native, native

against white man. Do you know about the little apple of death? What's that? So I went on a, what do they call it? It's like you go down the canals in Florida. There are these trees. It's actually in Spanish. I can't remember the name in Spanish.

It's like, you know, why do you say apple in Spanish? Manzana. Manzana. Yeah. It's like La Manzanita de los muertos or something like that there were these trees that have this toxin on them and what the natives down there would do was when they were capturing a prisoner or something or a prisoner of war or a combatant they would tie into the tree and leave them there and then when it rains the water would wash the

toxins down it would sweep over people and it would just you'd be trapped there with your skin burning from the toxins and there was like people would eat them because they taste that they would be like oh they'd eat it and then they'd yeah dude yeah if you touch the tree you get like reactions crazy yeah so you know people have always used other people for example when they imported um irish and italians to undercut the labor market that was controlled by wasps. Then they use black people to cut the the the picket lines. They've always used divide and conquer against us. What we got to do is we got to stop feeding into that, man.

You know, my ancestors, a lot of them were into anti whiteness. I'm not into anti-whiteness. I'm not into anti-whiteness. I understand that the best thing to destroy this machine is white and black unity. That's why there's that meme of the two hands coming together, white and black, and it says the one thing they fear the most. That's the one thing they fear the most. We're not actually white and black, too, which is something I think about a lot. I'm kind of pinkish. You're more brown than black.

Your skin, I'm not even talking about you. The skin tone is like, so the words aren't even accurate anymore correct and and white really means free and black means slave yeah you know weird how those words i grew up on the south side of chicago and i can tell you there were you meet all kinds like i know so many white crackheads that just like fell in the gutter and lived in the gutter. And it was just like, it's one, it's really hard to be racist when you treated black people down South. Well, we're all the black people up North. If y'all so not racist,

how come you don't have black people around? Yeah. And how come when people were freed and they came up North, they said they missed the South. And there were still, there were still, there were still problems with civil rights. When they came up North,

not only did they have to not deal with civil rights, they had to deal with the, the Puritan philosophy and how snooty the people of the North were. My point being that the thing that that is happening right now and I warn conservatives, do not allow Black Lives Matter to to make you think that that's how the consciousness of black people operate the consciousness of black people is very loving the consciousness of white people is very loving or european and african you know or caucasian and african whatever the terms we're going to use but that that that that first seed that's planted is love it's not fear and it's not violence it's love and we have that within us. And to point

to your point, you're saying the government is the reason why people aren't killing each other. And I think the reason why people aren't killing each other is because people are full of love and people don't have it in them to kill another person. People don't have it in them to kill a deer or cow to make their meal. They couldn't physically do it. It takes a lot to kill somebody, you know. So I think there's more good in humanity than bad. And I just want to conservatives, when you see Black Lives Matter, you can't say on one hand is George Soros and then be like, why do black people on it? First of all, black people are not on a Democratic plantation. That's Democrat. You have to understand that the black, you know, boomers and on are the primary voters. Right. And they're going to be down ballot. But as they die off, you see it with Trump's presidency.

More black voters came out and voted for him. Yeah, dude. Because as that voting block dies off, you get more and more free thinkers and people that word. You got to remember, the boomer class was born with. So everything that come out the TV they think is real. Right. Right. They think everything comes out. That thing is real. So we got to understand it's not that the black community is not on a Democratic plantation. Half of us, 50 percent of us don't vote, period, and don't believe in voting. They don't mess with Biden or Trump. And the people that are voting are dying voting block. Right on, man.

Well, dude, thanks for coming. This has been great. Oh, thank you for having me. My hero. Sure, dude, anytime. Yeah. Was excited that we were able to get you to come down,

especially considering COVID. A lot of people don't want to come, but dude, yeah, man, for sure. I'm a soldier. You want to mention your social media or your show or anything like that? You know, I'm black. We got to give shout outs.

Yo, shout out to Uncle Hotep. Shout out to DoDo. Shout out to Michael Green. Shout out to Lauren Literally. Shout out to Chad. Shout out to Brody, Kent Thoreau, Raida,

Sketch Therapy, Hotep Nation. Oh, I got an AI company. Shout out to Wazo AI. Right on. We do camera vision analytics. What is it exactly? Basically anything that comes in front of a camera, we can create data and analytics from it.

Really? Yeah. We were talking about getting like a context or like a context, what would you call it? You put it in your browser, like a browser augmentation where you could tell if a video comes from a larger video. Ooh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can definitely do something like that. You'd probably need to API something to the internet, but yeah, it's definitely possible with machine learning.

You got a podcast? Yes, Hotep's been told you. Every Thursday at 8 p.m. Eastern time, me and Uncle Hotep is hot. So hot. Right on. What about Twitter? You got Twitter, right?

Twitter, at HotepJesus. Right on, man. Main website's hotepnation.com. That's where we operate operate from um yeah but thank you for having me man you're a man yo hey i appreciate it dude thanks for coming and of course you can follow me on twitter instagram parlor at timcast you can check out my other youtube channels youtube.com slash timcast youtube.com slash timcast news the show is live monday through friday at 8 p.m and make sure you like subscribe hit the notification bell yeah really smash that like button on your way out you can also follow this guy over here yes at ian crossland amongst most and all of the social networks and share this

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We talked a lot about human politics and the politics of animals, but can we just give a shout out to this plant? Yes. I was going to go there next. This beautiful creature. My little succulent. Levitating and spinning endlessly. Amazing. Everyone should have a plant. Levitating and spinning endlessly. Amazing.

Everyone should have a plant. Look at it just spinning. So weird. So soothing. Anyway, thanks for hanging out, everybody. We'll be back. What's today, Friday? Yeah.

Oh, man, I got a weekend off. Half days, technically. So Monday will be 8 p.m. Thanks for hanging out. And we got some really, really important guests coming up next week. It's going to be serious, pretending the election and stuff. So stick around. We will see you Monday at 8 p p.m thanks for hanging out bye guys Thank you.