Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #174 - Judge BLOCKS PA Certification, HUGE Win For Trump, w/ Jack Murphy

Episode Date: November 26, 2020

Tim and Lydia host friend and fellow YouTube commentator Jack Murphy (@JackMurphyLive everywhere) to discuss recent developments in Pennsylvania and how the election may unsettle the public faith in our institutions.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Last night, we had Sean Parnell on the show. He is a Republican running in, I believe it's PA 17. Is that you know, that's a that's a district. If you say so, Tim, I think so. All right. All right. So it's like north of Pittsburgh. And he's down. He's still officially candidate. absentee ballot provision. And the Republicans were not, not, this is, these are my words, not, not his in my, in terms of my opinion. He said that the Republicans were trying to pass this law and started the constitutional amendment process and then stopped and then passed the law anyway, which means sounds like they knew what they were doing with was unconstitutional. So apparently Pennsylvania governor announced that he certified the results and seems like it was done hastily in an effort to try and bypass any litigation or whatever. My understanding is that PA didn't certify in 2016 until December.

So like they waited for a while. Now they've like rushed it through. I didn't even realize it happened. But a judge today said, stop the certification process. It's not official. And now you've got the Democrats being like, yeah, well, we still picked our electors. You can't stop us. And it's just going crazy.

I don't know exactly what's going to happen. But Trump is also filing an appeal trying to get Republicans in Pennsylvania to choose their own electors. He's certainly not giving up. They had this hearing where they were talking about voter fraud and stuff, which that, that, that hearing stuff they're doing makes me feel like they're not taking it seriously because it was, it is at a hotel,

but you know what? I don't want to get into too much. We also got some stuff about COVID. Maryland's going crazy. They're, they're launching compliance units that are going to go around like tracking down people who are celebrating Thanksgiving. So open up your door and let us in.

They're going to take GoPros on swivels and raise up to the window and be like, there's people that... No, they're going to look for cars outside if there's too many. This is for real. They're all my cousins. They all live here. Yeah, everybody lives here. Get out of here. We're car collectors.

That's right. But it's getting crazy. So anyway, Ian's sick, so his chair is empty. But Jack Murphy is here. The foil's gone. Hello, gone hello everybody good to see you glad to be back lydia yeah i am chilling chilling in a big way yep jack murphy live here on tim cast i love it yeah so uh a lot of people are saying like tim where are your videos you know what man uh it's chill day holidays are really really hard to work through because no one else is working so it's like you're trying to like you're dragging your car by yourself with a tow rope

you know it's it's hard to do something when no one else is doing anything it's like yeah but your your audience has to acknowledge that they feel an absence but that absence is created through your persistence and consistent hard work you're on the grind like nobody else putting out more political commentary and news reporting than virtually anybody out there isn't that right i think so i was talking to a podcasting network and they said i do more political commentary than anyone else anywhere now there's probably some people you know they're talking about in terms of the top podcasts does it count when we're talking to ian as political commentary of course of course so we do i do i course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just kidding. I do three hours and 45 minutes.

Yeah, every day. Except for Saturdays and Sundays, that's an hour and 45. So some days when we go over 10 o'clock, it's like four hours and 20 minutes. There are some days where I've done like seven hours. Yeah, for real. Like when we had Vosh and Alex Jones, that that was like five hours six hours of political commentary in a single day right like that's crazy right right but podcast commentary and content stuff and you doing this consistently over time and delivering high quality people are looking for you they're

waiting for you and when they don't get that notification bell which you should hit smash that like subscribe hit that notification bell you're gone you're gone but guys tim's got to take a break what you've been doing what are you gonna do well it's it's it's so i'm actually thinking of doing only one 20 something minute segment um in the morning on timcast news and then my 4 p.m second on my main channel so that we can start the vlog and do non-political commentary content which means i'd still have three hours of political commentary every day no joke non-political commentary content, which means I'd still have three hours of political commentary every day. No joke. Non-political commentary. Evergreen commentary. Fun

stuff, educational stuff, inspirational stuff. Nah, silly nonsense. We're going to build a giant airbag and launch ramp and snowboard and stuff. Maybe break the record for the longest grind rail ever done. Just something else.

I think it's too much in one direction. It's too much political commentary. ever ever grind you know done there you go just just just something else you know i think uh yeah it's just it's too much in one direction it's too much political commentary how much do you think your 45 minutes your experience of having your content getting sort of consumed by political commentary how is that like mirroring the rest of the world you think it's everybody yeah like everyone's doing political commentary yeah because uh i think this was a strategy of the democrats they wanted everything to be political because they needed non-voters to vote they needed they needed regular people who don't care to vote how do you get some

you know 23 year old dude who's playing video games all day to vote for joe biden you scream in their face and take everything away from them and scream in their face again and finally fine joe biden there you go leave me alone right exactly we talked about that a few weeks ago about the democrats beating their people over the head gaslighting torturing them you know yeah basically threatening them and the only thing they could do is just vote to make it stop but part of that comes from critical race theory and activists that have like produced all these people these young kids who've taken over corporations they They're taught that politics is personal. It's all personal, and you have to make it personal,

and you have to even get in people's personal spaces and make people uncomfortable, and it's consumed everything. And then you take away. You can't go to the football games. You can't go to the basketball games. You can't do anything. The only show in town is politics.

I think we may have crossed the breaking point, like the hard breaking point in this country. So I've you know i frequently said you know we're sitting on the precipice or maybe we've gone over it i think we hit the ground i think we went over the precipice a while ago when we hit the ground with this election you know there was a hearing the uh today at the windom in gettysburg and you had a bunch of republicans and they're listening to testimony and man you had some legit people there there was one guy who was a former intelligence officer who worked psychological operations who was testifying you know trump trump called in but you had a lot of people speaking that that whole thing it's weird it kind of freaks me out well can we can we just

back up for a second set the stage there like how do you have a hearing in a hotel ballroom because it's not official it's not it makes me wonder like was anybody like under oath or sworn or anything it was just yeah had the feeling of a hearing but it was really just a sophisticated or maybe presentation i think what they're trying to do i don't know i'm asking i think they're trying to there's like a large angry maga beast snarling it's like you know you know there's a good example it's it's it's uh like trying to calm down the hulk like you know don't worry hulk like you know you're in the here's the here's the real hearing come sit down and you got all these angry maga people that are you know ready to smash and so they're like we're gonna do a hearing and then they show up and everyone's

clapping and cheering and it's like bro they're putting you in the kiddie room and blowing smoke up your ass. Now, some people out there, well-known commentators on the right, they saw that hearing. And it really changed the way that they felt about, was there some sort of systemic fraud at play, at least in this state there? In terms of they don't believe it anymore? Or they believe it even more? No, they believe that that it's time for the democrats to refute the allegations that they're serious enough they're credible enough yeah the people making the allegations are credible enough that that it demands a refutation actually proving them to be false that's why i'm saying we we went off the precipice a while ago and

we smacked the ground of The precipice of what? That's what I didn't understand at first. Like the point of no return where this country's divide was getting worse and worse every day. Oh, yeah. And jumping off the cliff was the point where you can't turn back. And then hitting the ground was the point where that – it's just done. And now we're staring at each other and people are counting heads. None of this, in my opinion, matters.

We know there's evidence. the media is saying there's not evidence it's just an absolute lie did you see that poll and i don't know who conducted it so i'm not sure exactly if it's 100 accurate but it seemed to suggest that they pulled biden voters after the election and asked them had they were they aware of hunter biden were they aware of operation warp speed were they aware of our energy independence under trump etc etc and they weren't and they said if they were they would have voted for trump in a small a small enough a large enough percentage but it was a small percentage it was like typically around four to five percent of the people said wow i wouldn't have voted for biden if that was

the case and that's a huge swing for trump it would have been sufficient perhaps the media was doing everything in their power to help joe b. The media was doing everything in their power to help Joe Biden. Social media was doing everything in its power to help Joe Biden. Joe Biden did not campaign and got 11 million more votes than Barack Obama. No way. Doesn't make any sense, Tim. So listen, you come to me and you say, dude, but people really hate Donald Trump. I say, oh, you betcha.

But to beat Barack Obama without campaigning. Now, perhaps you can say, oh, you betcha. But to beat Barack Obama without campaigning? Now, perhaps you can say. I mean, hold on. Just Barack Obama. I went out to vote for Barack Obama, man. I was motivated. I waited in line. I was proud to vote for Barack Obama.

I really was in 2008. I certainly was. Come to regret it, obviously. Yeah, me too. But it was a moment in time. It felt right. And there was no similar energy around Joe Biden but maybe maybe this does prove once and for all and hopefully not that hate is more motivating than than love or hope i'm not i'm not entirely

convinced that widespread voter fraud is the is what cost trump the election i think i think we got to see evidence i think what we have right now is the smoke alarm is going off and smoke is billing out the windows. It's time for the firefighters to go in there because we think there's smoke. So, you know, for me, I've seen enough. The investigations need to happen. But here's the point I'm saying where we smack the ground. It's not going to matter, especially when you have these hearings.

Now, it's silly that they're happening and you're like a Wyndham or whatever. That's like, what are they doing? You know, they're going to do it in a couple other states i guess but some of these people man these are these are when i was listening to the certification process for michigan some of the people who called in for public like to say do not certify these were like former government officials yeah these were like uh you know like relatively high-ranked individuals in various organizations and government who have said rattling off off all the evidence, calling out the law. And they said, F you, F you. Man, that one guy, his name was like Aaron Van Langeveld was one of the most feckless and

pathetic people I've ever had to listen to. It's like you had a guy say like under this section of the law, it says for any reason necessary, you can call an adjournment. Like you can adjourn the meeting. And he goes, well, I can't just make something up. And they're like, necessary you can call an adjournment like you can adjourn the meeting and he goes well i can't just make something up and they're like if you can't certify which is defined as determining if something is true then you can call for an adjournment until they sort out these these errors and he goes well i just don't think that's in the law anywhere sorry and it was like he said it like 10 times and i'm like dude you like it was so obvious that he was doing everything in his power to guarantee this for joe biden and and you had people like one guy called in and rattled off a ton of crazy evidence affidavits you know sworn statements statistical anomalies the things people had seen and uh the unbalanced books for instance

70 whatever percent you know signatures didn't match how many votes were cast people who had said that they didn't request absentee ballots but absentee ballots got sent to him anyway things like that indeed and this guy goes well you know i don't know i guess you know whatever i have no choice you know sorry it's like you wouldn't exist unless you had a choice like why would you even be in that position you're there for a reason to certify or you can say i can't certify this because the books are unbalanced one one explanation for that is that he was trying to advance the ball for biden another explanation is that he was so soft and scared and incapable of making a principled decision or making a hard decision or taking action or anything like that i

don't think he was trying to advance it for biden no i think he's just scared he's a terrified weak little man this is the crisis the crisis of weak men yeah so when you hear that the wayne county board of canvassers some some guy goes on the zoom call and says your kids probably go to this school and they immediately certify yeah exactly so this guy who is you know should not be in a leadership position he sees that and immediately says i i have to i have to i have no choice and the reason he was saying that was because he doesn't want republicans getting mad at him but guess what time and time again i'll tell you this it's because republicans will do nothing conservatives nothing you mean in terms of like fighting aggressively or so antifa

breaks the rules and gets away with it yep Yep. One hundred percent. And the only like the only thing comparable is probably the Proud Boys. And they typically are defensive. They'll show up and do a rally and then Antifa attacks them and then they'll fight back. But Antifa is aggressive and they get away with it. It's overt terrorism. It's low tier terror. It's not like they're showing up with, you know, with like, you know, AKs and mowing down, you know, kids or anything like that. But they're saying just picking off Trump supporters one by one on the streets of portland it has happened

but the here's the thing that you want you want to stay under the radar you can't do high profile attacks like that like like ryanel did so what you do is you just put on a mask and you club people and then eventually people get scared but cancel culture was the first start that was them saying comply or else we will destroy you and i'll tell you one of the biggest problems i would say it would seem that there's probably like i don't know four or five percent of trump supporters who are cowards they're smart enough to know they need to vote for him but they were too terrified of what the left would do to him to speak out and evangelize on his behalf so i said this about all these celebrities who i know

support trump but refuse to speak up because they're like i'll lose my job and i'm like you will wake up one day with a joe biden presidency and everything you hold dear being stripped away and you'll say i wish i had spoken up sooner because i had a lot of influence and i could have used it bro you are preaching to the choir on this one my friend i have arrows in my back from being out front people have been free riding on my willingness to go out there personally and stump for Trump and advocate for him and say he's the best choice that we had as far back as 2016. Obviously, Democrats are deplorable.

The whole transition, everything. They destroyed your career. They did. Tried hurting your family. They did. They hurt me. They got me fired and doxed and slandered and all kinds of horrible things. And yet, you you know i persist and

and i look around at people who i know feel the same way but don't speak up and i'm like i'm out here i'm out here i'm a lightning rod i'll say it's from now on if anyone ever whenever i'm ever going to bring up not being scared and speaking up i'm just going to say be like jack murphy because people always say tim you don't have a family you don't know what it's like it's like all right well then ask jack because you you stuck your neck out you were speaking out they came for your family and you pushed twice as hard after the fact indeed you weaponized it i had to you know this energy came at me it was negative energy it was this terrorism info terror like uh character assassination etc and they came after me and i jujitsu'd around

into something positive there was you. It was an opportunity. I mean, when you see the world in terms of opportunity and energy and you see it all coming at you and you have a chance to turn it around into something good, I seized on it. And plus, living well is the best revenge. There's no question about that. So think about this guy, this Michigan State board of canvassers yeah who was no matter what was said to him citing the law setting evidence he said well you know i have no choice

one guy said if that's the case then why are you here and not a rubber stamp for the governor who you just we can hand the files to him you don't you exist for a reason in fact they had the opportunity to vote like they literally counted the vote three to zero with one abstaining it's like so you could have literally a voted no but this guy wouldn't and it's really simple why i've been saying this for quite some time so uh you're familiar with sargon avocad right indeed i saw that whole thing just happened recently oh go ahead no i don't know what happened something happened maybe i have it all right well anyway he's got a uh a new podcast called the lotus eaters by the way so shout out sargon but But I use him as a really good example because he is like the most mild-mannered, offensive guy, you know, that like the social media age has wrought.

And here's the example. of crazy stuff happened do you think sargon of akkad is going to lead a group of liberalists men you know with fedoras and beards down to twitter hq with pitchforks and torches to smash and destroy everything no of course not no he's sitting in his nice little fancy room with his british accent you know giving arguments if they started going after the left do you think the left would show up with pitchforks torches and bricks no but i do have a kind of the answer is yes i'm sorry sorry yes they've done it absolutely literally have done it i'm sorry i had a counterpoint in my head to be an argumentative jerk about it laura loomer she did show up down at twitter yes not exactly pitch but is anybody scared of her she she handcuffed her her hand to the door yeah and and she got pressed for it it's probably i mean honestly she she is

one of the best activists or the best the right has yeah and you don't got to agree with her i think she said ridiculously bombastic things and offensive things and you don't got to agree the point i'm making is she always knows how to dominate headlines yeah and she does it in such a way that's like nobody's getting hurt handcuffing herself to twitter's door like that's just regular old civil disobedience and it worked yeah so here's what happens this guy aaron you know he's uh you know a sad scared little man who you know he shouldn't be in a leadership position if you can't handle the the the heat you know it's it's the sword of damocles you want to sit in that chair the sword sits above you how do you even get to that spot is it just some i don't know appointment as he voted in like some the problem is we don't have leaders anymore we have very very few i should

say and so what happens is here's a guy sitting there and he sees what happens when the democrat state board when the two democrats said we are going to certify the republicans announce where their children lived and threaten them? So where are you? The answer is no. No, I know. Where are you going with this critique that the left is violent, terroristic, like Antifa types? I mean, these are like regular Democrats in the community saying your kids go to school

here. Yeah, no, it's a perfectly normal thing on the left to say all kinds of stuff like that. And they know that when they say that Antifa is the is is the cudgel who will show up and act and they'll say it's it's what is it called stochastic terrorism no they know that they can say don't your kids go to this school and then they'll say now i can now all i have to do is sit back and wait for antifa to show up because they'll do it i don't got to tell them so this guy's terrified. He's absolutely terrified. The other guy abstained. He didn't even say no. These people are spineless. So you have aggressive, angry, violent, deceitful leftists and you have scared conservatives saying, just please leave me alone. Right. And I agree with you. The ineffective, wimpy guys like that or leaders of any kind

shouldn't be there. We need stronger leaders. leaders we need masculine energy we need all kinds of new force however i just want to make sure i understand this the left of those played dirty are you suggesting the right should play strong or play dirty too they gotta be smarter they gotta be they gotta be smarter so look you know i i play i've grown up playing strategy games and what the left is doing is aggro. Their strategy is hard, hard and fast. Strike them, hit them low, hit them fast, get it done. The Republicans got to play control better. They have to understand, you know exactly what they're going to do.

They're going to make threats. They're going to come for your family. You need to know their move before they do it. And so that like, you know, Bruce Lee move like water when they come at you spin around flip it on them turn it up turn the energy back on them you did yes it's exactly what you did yes they came at you and they made you 10 times stronger 100 times stronger yes that was a mistake and counting that's what more people on the right need to be doing so it's not about playing dirty. It's about, you know, I'm reminded of this episode of Frasier. Ever watch Frasier? I sure did. I watched Cheers and then Frasier.

All right. So there's an episode where I guess Frasier is having a bad day and he has his normal table at the coffee shop and he's got his coffee sit down. He goes up to grab some cream or something and a guy sits in his chair and he gets angry and he says, sir, this is my seat. And the guy tells him to F off. So Fraszier just says, I'm having a bad day. I'm not having it picks the guy up and throws him. So eventually this guy sues him knowing he's like a radio host. He had money and, uh, you know, Frazier can't do anything about it. So eventually they ended up meeting back at the coffee, coffee shop.

And then Niles gets in his face and then, you know, you know, starts pressuring him and insulting him. And then the guy says, back off, starts pressuring him and insulting him. And then the guy says, back off, man, and pokes his chest. And then Niles goes, whoa! And falls over and slams onto the floor. And then he goes, countersuit! Countersuit! And then the guy backs off.

And says, okay, I give up. So the joke was, and he was like, I didn't do anything to him. He was like, well, we all watched you touch him. You know, that's it. You're gonna get sued. Niles got the suit shut down by playing the same game the other guy was playing got it so i'm not saying like definitely not republicans should not be going out doing antifa stuff antifa shouldn't be doing that either right but what do you do if you know the da will cut these people loose boom like that because they got they got elected in the first

place well they have a whole infrastructure you and I talked about this many times, and I take extra special pleasure now in documenting legal defense fund folks when they're out there in the protests, copying down the officer's badge numbers and giving out bail numbers and helping people get out of jail. As you said, not being there to observe both parties, but actually there as an advocate for Antifa. They have a whole network that encourages them.

They get out of jail. They're not prosecuted. It's a, it's a whole system. We don't have that system because we adhere to the system of the rule of law. And we expect that if you destroy property or federal property, you're going to go away to federal prison. So what do you do if you're playing Monopoly and the person across the table,

every so often you see him swipe 100 from the bank and you go dude i saw you do that and you'd be like what are you talking about no i don't talk about i'm allowed i'm the banker eventually do you stop playing i mean you're putting me in a tough spot because i'm the kind of guy that would either confront or just completely ignore the table you just you know i like to pick my moments of aggression like that. And sometimes it's just not worth it. But, but the alternative here of just like getting up and walking away from the

board game, that's easy. I can do that. I can be like, dude, I want to hang out with you anymore. I'm not going to play this game anymore. I'm out.

And it just leave. We, we do not have that luxury. No, that's a, it, it, it,

that exists in the real world. that's the scary that's the hitting the ground moment that's what i'm saying yeah we're at a point where yeah we've seen the evidence there is so much evidence of first irregularity because fraud we got to figure out who did it and is it definitive so uh following matt brainard of the voter integrity fund he recently put out a database like like screenshots of excel of people all using the same commercial address as their residential address some of them even post offices yeah so so the response to that was that they were they were using their mailing address as their residential address so that could be a mistake right but some

of these addresses were just like one of them i think was uh like like a shopping mall or something like okay and and the difference is they say apartment on them so if you're gonna if you're gonna use the same address and then call it apartment number to make it seem like it's a real residence that that's fraud that's evidence of fraud outright one of the things that he pointed out that struck me was that in i think wisconsin i believe there is a particular clause that says if you are indefinitely confined you can get an absentee ballot and not have to show id and it's like some x 169 000 people indefinitely confined right in previous years it had been some tiny fraction yeah of that in 2018 i think it was like 16 000 and and he specifically noted that corona was not an indefinite

confinement so it that's one area where you don't need to use an id so of course that's a perfect vector for so that is the best evidence so far of fraud in my opinion was that people put bunk addresses if you take an address for a you know a dairy queen and then put apartment number on it yeah we know what you're doing that's that's fraudulent some of them were even the post office well but the argument there is that what you have like a po box yeah so their mailing address was incorrectly listed as their residential address i see see that i'm not saying it's definitively true that's what happened but you can explain it away right you can't explain away someone listing a a shopping mall as their as their residence right like and and and was like a thousand of them all with the same address

going down with unit number apartment number you know just like different ways to qualify like this is actually it's not a residence so there clearly is evidence of fraud now it's not definitive proof it could be very simple at this one shopping mall somebody has a mailbox or something like that and then again confuse their mailing address someone pointed out that you actually like in some instances you can put your mailing address as your residence on some form or something and maybe got mixed up but you can explain it yeah but the point is we have all of this evidence and going back to the hitting the ground moment the fact that republicans held a hearing at a windham means the split has happened right why aren't they having that meeting in an

official government building right because they're now operating parallel to the government don't say it tim why not it's beginning the beginning of the shadow uh well cnn ran a segment where this deranged guy said trump's going to form a shadow government i wouldn't call it a shadow government but i wouldn't be surprised if trump says if you support me and you believe me to be your president i will be leading a movement he could yeah and it could operate within the confines of the law but it could have powerful and massive impacts across the country people have accused obama of running a shadow government shadow presidency this whole time living but merely a mile away from the white house in colorama in washington dc near besos besos who bought a museum dude he bought a museum and turned it into his private residence

in downtown washington if we have to have hearings at Wyndham hotels because we can't have them in actual legal buildings with legitimate legal proceedings, then it shows you that people are no longer confident in one unified system. The government exists based on one thing, confidence. That people think in their minds the machine exists and the machine will churn along. You start to realize then when you see a judge and PA issue ridiculous rulings or you start to hear the state canvas guy in Michigan repeatedly just say, I can't do it, even though we've got the law in front of him saying he literally can. And it's like, dude, you're lying. Why are you like you literally can? The guy read you the law three times desperately trying to say i can't shows you the laws become meaningless for the past year we have seen antifa get away with uh smashing things

up and destroying things and burning things black lives matter writers and felony assault assault with a deadly weapon murder and so let's not sugarcoat it well but some the people the most violent people did get arrested and charged and stuff. In that regard, yeah. But we had, what, thousands of people across the country who were arrested and released immediately? Hundreds in Chicago, hundreds in New York and Dallas-Fort Worth who had their charges dropped. Misdemeanor charges. So then what's the point of the law if these people can go out and smash things and get away with it?

What's the point of the law if Antifa can literally organize terroristic events on Twitter with no repercussion and they've been doing it nonstop for a year at a certain point, Republicans are going to say the law doesn't actually mean anything because it doesn't get enforced. Then they're going to show up to a Wyndham hotel to have their hearing on voter fraud because they are rallying among themselves saying, we know this is true and it doesn't matter if the official building or the Democrats think it is or isn't. So at a certain point, there's not necessarily a shadow government. But I've been saying this for quite some time with the censorship. They are pushing to create parallel economies by stripping people away of their financial institutions and communications.

So now we have parallel social media growing faster than ever. Parlo over 10 million users. Now you have, like I mentioned, hearing in a hotel, like an official proceeding. It looked like it was like it was a Senate hearing, but they were doing it in a hotel, which is crazy. And you have CNN worried about Trump forming a shadow government. But there are people who say legitimately trump won and we know it and they're not you you had uh roads of the oath keepers say that he believes trump supporters half the country

will not regard anything out of obama's i'm sorry anything out of biden's mouth as legitimate so it's it's like the fracture has happened yeah we smack the ground boom it's done yeah these parallel uh circumstances economies information, associations, these are all happening. This is all part of the trend of decentralization and streets of strategic disconnection. Instead of us all being in the same thing with no borders and no boundaries and totally connected to everyone everywhere at all times, we are going to start retreating. Some of it's deliberate in an offensive way from the other side to silence us or separate us from the mainstream or whatever the case. But some of it is coming from our side too. Some of it is just a natural phenomenon at this point where you want to erect a barrier. You want to have a wall between yourself and the people you care

about and the people that you don't know and that you don't have the same level of care for, who people who might have it out for you. And eventually, we're going to have not just parallel financial systems or economies or labor markets, but decentralized. And just it's just sort of all in a big mix, but they're all connected in their own unique ways. And it really is the future of work. It's the future of communication of finance, where people are going to come together and build their own networks, where they can live, work and play. And this is, you know, this is not this sort of a longer term vision here. Yeah, but that's that's going to lead to widespread violence. If we're talking about Trump supporters, I was talking about a little bit of different

thing than you're talking about, but I hear what you're saying. Go if if Republicans and Trump supporters right now are have no longer have confidence in the elections, in the government, government in the system and they're going to start doing their own thing and i they probably will so like one of the things i said a month or two ago when someone asked me like what do you think it's going to look like if we do see some kind of civil war i said it's going to be a bunch of right-wing dudes in the middle of nowhere just basically saying we no longer care about what the law is like if they pass a law on gun control saying turning your guns they're going to be like yeah who are you talking to yeah forget it yeah and we saw we saw seeds of that starting in the spring in january in the

winter in january in richmond and virginia when the governor and the legislature there were looking to pass very restrictive gun laws many counties said that they wouldn't have forced the laws and they were joining together and resistance and there was just a huge protest where a bunch of armed dudes were walking around i'm not sure if it was virginia or dc i think it was dc couldn't have been dc no that that's that was the point i'm pretty sure oh really yeah yeah yeah fort fisher was covering it i think it was dc i could be wrong but he was basically like these guys are violating in large numbers gun control laws we'll see what happens oh i didn't hear about that i'm gonna have to

look that up if there's a gang of armed dudes walking through the streets of DC, all felony possession, boom. I can't believe that they didn't get scooped. It may have been Virginia. Yeah, that would may have been in a sense. Like,

yeah. Yeah. Four was reporting it, but it was a while ago. It was like a week or two ago. Okay. So I don't know. Just see if you can Google it.

It's going to be opt out. Think it's already happening. Think about if you are a Democrat in Montgomery County, Maryland, and you don't believe that we should have restrictive immigration. And your county says basically, hey, if you show up here, we'll give you services. We'll take care of you. You get a driver's license. And if we arrest you, even for a violent crime, we won't engage with the federal immigration authorities, whatever. So they started this a long time ago.

People have been ignoring the government, I think, since and even before it was incepted. So that was one thing I wanted to step back a second and just be like, look, remember 2016, all those all those Democrats were like, you should engage electoral college and change the vote and whatever. And they're saying that, you know, there's a video of a bunch of celebrities saying you will be a hero electoral college if you vote your conscience and do not elect Donald Trump. Right. Amazing.

What are they saying today? Well, they're saying the exact opposite. And if you suggest that you're a terrorist and a rebel and whatever. But my point in bringing that up is how much of these feelings that we're having, the sense of disintegration or I won't respect him, not my president and all that or like ignoring federal laws, how much of that is really

new? That's what I want to know. Sanctuary cities have been a thing for a long time. Civil disobedience has been a thing for a long time. Ignoring federal guidelines and laws and regulations has been a thing for a long time. State Republicans having hearings in Wy windham hotels like d this is pretty good a good good example decriminalization and legalization of cannabis on the state level even though it's federally prohibited that's a great example of states ignoring the federal government well disregarding

the law and saying screw you we're going to do what we want that's different though why it's i think it's the same thing when when a state says we want we are a sovereign state you know and we've decided there was a big wave of states declaring sovereignty you know i think it was like 12 years ago or so that's the states always have their own laws and own you know and they can there's a lot of laws that don't you know work with federal laws it's different when you have two overarching cultures with 70 plus million on each side. For the most part, not every single person who voted for Biden or for against Trump or for Trump are, you know, super politically active. There's probably a lot of people who are just like

Democrat and, you know, Republican. And well, let me just say thematically, then it's the same in that disregarding the authority of the federal government deciding to do what you think is right, and not accepting it as legitimate. What's coming from washington dc that's on theme those roads have already been traveled will we see more of that probably i don't i don't i don't i don't think so i think sanctuary uh laws are like a legal challenge where the people in the state like they agree and they vote for something and then the feds challenge them and there's a lawsuit, and then the feds ultimately back off. And then that's it. You don't get cooperation.

It's different when you have, in the state, in the same areas, two different factions of people completely at odds with each other doing different things as though there's a different government or a different system for um so would you take the monopoly board and just flip it over and fling everything everywhere and say we gotta start over and get a whole new game or are you gonna get up and walk away or are you gonna punch the guy in the face what are you gonna do tim man uh walk away but it's it's that there in lies the serious problem of what is what does it mean to walk away in this analogy i got a house out in the middle of nowhere and i'm doing my own thing and uh they the lockdowns are getting uh bro we're we're we're well beyond the point of these these dystopian novels maryland announced they're launching compliance units that are going to patrol Thanksgiving looking for cars that could indicate someone's having family over compliance units. I mean, that's as absurd as I saw a joke about like banning turkeys over 12 pounds or something

like that. Yeah, yeah. It was news. I'm like, no 10 pound turkeys. No, that was a joke. That was a joke. Oh, that was a joke. Oh, I'm pretty sure it was a joke.

Oh, I don't know. Somebody brought it up. But you see the thing they said about no loud music? No. What does that have to do with COVID? Well, not to be the party pooper on that one, but loud music does induce people to speak more loudly and enunciate more clearly.

All right. Which is why you're not allowed to play music at restaurants. And I was like, what is that about? The volume has to be low so that you don't yell, so you don't spit all over everybody i kind of which which actually is one of the ones that only ones that really make any sense to me yeah yeah but they also said no alcohol that's fun yeah everyone will follow that definitely and but you know i'm seeing some pushback man i'm seeing some pushback i've seen in my local jurisdictions parents getting together and agreeing that their kids should be playing little league, that their kids should be playing baseball, they should be doing crew, they should be playing tennis, that they should have group practices and they should try to find events.

People are tired. They're understanding the damage that's being done to them and their kids and their development and their social development. That's kind of interesting to me because I looked up the word feckless because I didn't really know what it meant. And the root word of feckless is irresponsibility. And I think that parents who are looking for ways to get their kids out of lockdown sadness are being responsible. I agree with that.

People are looking for ways to make positive change or being responsible. I agree. People like this guy who didn't certify are irresponsible. I have the tweet from Ford Fisher. Oh, snap. He says, today, Boogaloo boy Mike Dunn led militia activists on an armed march in laps around the capital in Richmond, Virginia, where it's illegal to carry guns at protests. And it's illegal to carry 20 plus round mags. Police stood back and did not intervene as the group defied both laws.

Wow. This is a large group of people. And they're carrying lots of weapons. weapons yeah in violation of the law and it's richmond virginia it's not dc right he says he's got another follow-up he says police monitored the area many carrying long rifles themselves but did not intervene as the boogaloo boys marched by them as well as signs reading firearms prohibited beyond this point other than pleasantries like good morning police didn't really speak to them in fact in the beginning of his video you can see a sign that says notice. And there's a picture of a handgun in a red circle with a line through it.

So there have been protests before. There's been widespread civil disobedience before. But has that been combined with widespread factional violence and 70 plus million people believe in the election? You know, or I should say to be fair, based on the polling we've seen, it's around 80% of Trump's voters in various polls, 80%, more than one poll said this, do not believe the election was free and fair. So we're looking at something like 65 million people or so, 66 million people who think that

the election was rigged. How many Americans do you think have ever seen a baseball game where they knew the other side was cheating and they just thought to themselves sort of like, well, you know, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. Yeah, that that's a that's a saying. That's a thing. Yep. Americans, they fight hard. Yeah. So how much – is there a chance that if they go through all of the legal process and everything is exhausted, at the end of the day, whatever the final arbitration is, it's like for Biden, you don't think some of that 80% is just going to be like, well, we'll get them next time? Yeah.

Yeah. I think that's very, very likely. The fecklessness. So that's. It's conservative. I mean, it's conservative saying, well, they're cheating and we know they're cheating, but, you know, whatever. So I'm trying to combine the fecklessness you're describing with this anticipatory conflict that you're thinking about, that we've gone off the precipice and we're shattered i'm not saying that whatever's happening is going to in the immediate result in you know marching armies or anything like that or or you know the republicans arming up and saying you know no confidence in the government or whatever i'm saying they literally are already having public

hearings outside of government whatever that means i don't know but they're doing it yeah and and it wasn't like they they said you know this is the official off-site location like when they move the white house you know to the other buildings i wish i could remember the name of that octagon mar-a-lago winter white house no i'm talking about in like 1800s man you know but just a temporary location they didn't announce anything like it was just really just a dog and pony show where people with credible, credible people came and gave their test, but not even testimony. They're just sort of. So that's that's the other thing I was saying early on, that perhaps what they were doing is just trying to calm down the Hulk.

They were like, we need to make sure that Republicans grumble and go home and do nothing. So we're going to give them their hearing. You're not giving them a hearing in an actual building, are you? Fine, we'll do it at the Wyndham, I guess. Then they'll feel like we actually listen to them. The Republicans are, like right now, in my opinion, in Pennsylvania, look at this. They're the ones who passed Act 77, which created the universal, the no-excuse mail-in voting system, which, according to the lawsuit that's actually

gotten you know that that's gotten the certification frozen unconstitutional it was republicans who passed that now in pennsylvania the republicans are holding these like you know it reminds me of that joke where they said both the left and the right have said this about biden or trump make a fake white house put you know candidate in it and then film a reality show where they think they're president. So they're like, let's set up a hearing. We'll do it at a hotel. It won't be official, but we'll convince the Republicans we're actually looking out for

them. And you know. I don't know Pennsylvania politics so well, but were the people, those Republicans, were they the old line establishment types, the neocon types? Were they not MAGA? Obviously, I just wonder how that went down. But you've mentioned a few times a challenge that you think has some legs, right? The unequal treatment of the ballots and the voting process and the care periods and things like that.

So this is the crazy thing. The judges and PA are basically saying, burn the whole thing down. We don't care. And it's almost like the rulings they're giving are them looking you in the eyes and saying no it's totally fair what we're doing and then you're like what like these rulings are just like i can't remember the specific case that i said the other day you have to watch the other episode but it's it's it's basically like we we've deemed that uh this lawsuit is true and correct and this is unconstitutional.

But we're going to allow it and then we'll call on the legislature in the future to do something about it. So it's like you know that it was bunk and something was bad and you're going to let it stand. So what happens when the judge said – he said to Giuliani, what do you expect me to do? Disenfranchise, you know, 7 million voters or whatever. And Giuliani, I guess he was like, you know, we don't know where these votes came from. In this case, the judges had, they had two choices. with Giuliani and said these 700,000 votes are hereby being disqualified at the fault of the Pennsylvania government for violating the election code. Oh, now I remember exactly what they said.

You're going to love this. The judge said the election code states there must be observers witnessing the observers present to observe the ballot counting process, but it doesn't state a distance. Therefore, as long as they're in the building, it's up to code. No sane, rational person looked at the code and said, that's the point of the law. We know why the law was passed as it was, because you want someone to observe the actual ballot. The judge said, it doesn't say what distance, 100 feet back. So when they sued saying we couldn't witness what was going on ballot the judge said it doesn't say what distance 100 feet back so when they sued saying we couldn't witness what was going on the judge said you were in the building right good

enough that's the election code that is them laughing in your face when you know what the point of the law was and using a technicality sorry it's true and fair and then laughing and high-fiving their friends i wonder if there's ever been a circumstance in which we on the right people were you know pushing the pedal to the floor in this regard i imagine there has to have been i mean war george w bush iraq afghanistan yeah them being like there's weapons there's weapons trust us don't look don't look behind the curtain and then the media lied and defended them so look look, with the Democrats right now, you get the media lying and defending him. And guess what the media, guess what the media lied and defended in 2003? George W. Bush and the Republicans.

Right. So it's the game is the political establishment is a well-oiled machine. It's a big club and you ain't in it. Do you actually think these people would allow the rabble to dictate the course of human events? Absolutely not. Right. Donald Trump being the rabble and the rabble rouser. And the leader of the rabble and the one that we launched into D.C. to do the things that he did.

Some of them, at least. I mentioned this before, but I remember being outside that building after Trump got elected and he comes in in the SUV and he's having a meeting with the old guard Republicans. And the rumor was he basically told him to go off themselves. He was the president and do whatever he wants. And I'm sure the meeting went something like, now that you're president, here's the plan we have in place for what we want you to do. And he said, no, I'm the president. We're going to get America back on track. And they were like, trust us. This is the plan. He said, no, they went nuts. The never Trumpers erupted. A bunch of Republicans retired.

It was basically a president who says, here's what the people want. I don't care what you want. And then the intelligence agencies and the establishment elites, you know, were all simultaneously drinking their tea and drop their glasses. Oh, my. Clutch their pearls. Yeah. He's going to help the rabble and they didn't have anything on him like they had on the rest of them because it

would it would have come out it would have come out and it oh they tried they lied and they put up all these ridiculous accusations it didn't happen though yep because because he was clean and they didn't he wasn't in the club he wasn't supposed to win right and he did they hadn't soiled him prior he wasn't like coming up the club. He wasn't supposed to win. Right. And he did. They hadn't soiled him prior. He wasn't like coming up the ranks and getting. He was supposed to visit Epstein Island before getting his opportunity. Right. I'm kidding, by the way, because I don't think Obama.

This is a good time to bring up maybe the pardon today. Oh, Michael Flynn. Yeah. Let's talk about that. This is scary stuff. Why is it scary? Not the pardon. Oh, I think the pardon was the right move.

It's scary that Judge Sullivan. So I'll give you the quick context. Michael Flynn was charged with lying to the FBI, but it was an informal meeting. He wasn't actually in an official meeting under an official investigation. As far as he knew, he's hanging out at the White House and some guy asked him a question. You ever talk to Kislyak? And he was like, no. And they're like, gotcha.

You lied. And they said, plead guilty. Otherwise, we're going after your son and so he said okay once trump got control of things he said we're going to drop this case the judge said no yeah they tried again judge sullivan started prosecuting essentially refusing the prosecution to drop their case it makes no sense and then here's the funniest part the most infuriating thing over the past month do you know what judge sullivan has done nothing nothing literally you know why sullivan is waiting for joe biden to get in so they can lock up michael flynn for no reason because he

offended the delicate sensibilities of the political establishment by working with donald trump that's it they used him as a weapon against Trump. They threatened his family. And Trump is pardoning him now. This is a political civil war. And that language came from Mother Jones. They said the political civil war will carry on. When you have the Obama administration falsely targeting an acting national security advisor who was doing his job, targeting his family, and we saw it from the notes that got released. The FBI said, what's our goal here? To prosecute him or get him fired the fact that they even questioned getting him fired proves that their intention was just to hurt donald trump's campaign yes that's it or his administration yeah and with the underlying motivation of protecting themselves right because flynn was

the one who knew where the skeletons were buried or which closets the skeletons were in something like that he knew where the bodies were there we go he knew where the skeletons were buried or which closets the skeletons were in something like that he knew where the bodies were there we go yeah he knew where the bodies were literally and figuratively yeah a hundred percent and uh it definitely derailed things and it also put trump in a really bad position where he you know he fired him and then he looked bad he didn't look loyal to his people and he threw out sort of a a dynamic guy who wanted to make change in the right way, who saw the world the right way, was part of the whole team that was supposed to make changes. And that was a huge fumble and a huge, a huge win basically for the Democrats there. And it just reminds me actually of why the presidential pardon exists in some cases. I mean,

you had to, people had to believe that they would use the courts against your political allies as a way to get to you. So, like, of course, people that support the president are going to be attacked. And this is a way to maybe protect somebody in that regard. I'm not an expert on presidential pardon. So I'm just spit. It does seem weird that he pled guilty. Then they tried dropping it. And it's like the case is already like they did already get to that point, like where we at.

But it's weird. Like you can pardon someone before they've been investigated or charged or something like yeah i'm not i'm not an expert on that all i know is i wish that he would have done that sooner brought him you want to get reelected he didn't want to rock the boat who was advising this guy if he would have pardoned flynn more people would have come out in support him trump came out in the first debate with the when they said your last and final statement i donald j trump am going to completely legalize through executive order on my first day of re-election january 21st i will completely legalize cannabis nationwide and pardon all non-violent drug offenders if that was that last thing he said, he's like 120 million votes.

I have been saying that since 2016, one of the survey questions in the survey I did for Democrats are deplorable. The last question, bonus question. Do you think that cannabis should be decriminalized at the federal level? And it was like 75% to 25% of Democrats are deplorable voters supported

it. It would have been a huge win. I called for it. I even told all my contacts in the white house huge win. I called for it. I even told all my contacts in the White House, I've been pushing for it. I mean, don't have the influence to get that done. But I tried. I tried because it's a civil liberties issue. It's a it's a civil rights issue. You know, it's a liberty issue. I mean, also, it's just sane and smart. So and it's it generates a lot of revenue through taxation. I mean, it's just it would have been

it would it would defang a lot of cartels which it already started has started to do you know you know it's really crazy you know the cartels are selling now i don't want to know is it getting worse uh make make a guess they're selling so so now barbital so now that now that pot is basically recreational in many different states yeah Yeah. You're wrong. You're wrong. It's way worse. Way worse than that? Avocados. Oh, snap.

No joke. Avocados. Really? Yep. You know? Because avocados are extremely in demand. Lucrative. Millennials love that avocado toast.

I mean, avocados are pretty awesome. So they're shaking down avocado farms. Now it's more money. Yeah. I mean, I believe that 100% that those guys aren't dedicated to the art and the, the act of selling drugs. This is trying to,

if they knew a guy that bought bricks for 10 and they could sell bricks for nine or buy, but they would do it. They would do it that way. Maybe not in that order. But yeah, he could have done it. He didn't do it.

There's a lot of things he could have done. Didn't do. I don't know if I'm ready for the postmortem, although I've been critical of him every time that he needed it. And I've been supportive when he has. I've never been one to come out and just throw MAGA red meat and say Donald Trump is the God savior and all that. He represented an opportunity for us, the network, to make change. And I think he was effective in some ways in that regard.

And he certainly stalled some of the things that we wanted to stall and slow. But was he perfect? No. And who knows? The economic devastation that will come to this country in the next several months will be, I believe it's going to be. COVID related, you mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's going to be unimaginable.

And the new administration. Tim, do you really think that the COVID situation is going to be worse now than it was in March? Based on the fact that people already had their legs chopped off in March, and now they're coming for them again. Oh, fiscally, you mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're destroying ownership no i mean i'm telling you we got this uh i got the let me let me pull the story the story of new covid policing unit to launch in maryland on thanksgiving eve their uh high high visibility enforcement efforts they're calling like they're calling them like compliance units

state and local police to enforce compliance we're literally at a point where the government against the direction against the science and even in some instances instances against the direction of the cdc are destroying the economy here's what happens have you noticed that dow jones hit 30 000 points today i sure did yeah that's real good news for people with money in you know retirement or in their stocks but younger But younger people and people who are lower class just got cut off completely. Like we're at a point where you can see the stock market skyrocketing while businesses are collapsing. Wages are gone because the jobs are gone. So Joe Biden says, I'm going to trust the scientists on what we should do.

And who's his advisor? Is Dr. Osterholm, who said, lock the whole country down for six weeks. Remember, 15 days, slow the spread turned into 15 days, 10 months. And the goal was just to ease the burden on the ICU so that we didn't have a bunch of secondary deaths because of capacity overloads. And one thing that I have noticed, it looks as though that the second wave in Europe isn't resulting in the same amount

of deaths proportionately as the first go-round. It also looks like they might be peak. I understand, but just in terms of the science and the data is going to show a more diminished effect, I think, this time. Because we have therapeutics and we have treatment and knowledge. They're going to say gonna say oh that's because the lockdown is

working we better double our efforts in in greece if you want to leave your house you got to text the cops let them know why in france you got to have your papers where is the rapid disposable test if we could just where's antifa what do you mean the anti-fascist to say the government cannot come down and lock you in your home right no they're cheering for it i guess yeah where are they where do they go what i'll protest some fat old trump supporter waving a flag but they turn a blind eye when the government comes out to locking people in their houses larpers with attitudes for sure but i think isn't a solution this a rapid test that you can just take every day? Or you can take it when you go somewhere.

Just test, test all the time. This would be the thing we should be focusing on. Well, so I think what's going to end up happening is we've already saw it with, I think it's pronounced Qantas or Qantas. I don't know. It's Q. The Australian airline, if you want to fly international, you've got to get your vaccine. You've got to have your approved vaccine status. Wow.

And Ticketmaster announced they would list vaccine status on tickets if the organizers wanted it so what's going to happen is people are going to be like no one's forcing you to get the covid vaccine but you can't do anything you can't go to the store because it's private business right this is the same way that they really affected the quote lockdowns is they just made it so that there was nowhere for you to go so i think everything we're seeing is the rich getting richer the look man if you want to if if i had to buy a stock right now i'd buy these pharmaceutical stocks you know got it people got to get the vaccines they're already saying they're going to put vaccine status on on cards china wants qr codes on your phone for the whole world because that's what they're doing. So, yeah.

So guess what company is going to make a ton of money? I've seen V for Vendetta. You've seen V for Vendetta, right? The guys who worked at Lark Hill bought all the stock in the pharmaceutical company and then all became ridiculously wealthy. I'm not saying there's anything nefarious with the vaccine itself. I'm saying they've got a government mandate they've these companies got operation warp speed and so these pharmaceutical companies are like we got a guaranteed two billion dollar contract invest in that's money like the company's gonna make money guaranteed definitely let's talk

a little bit more i i'm not familiar with the details of warp speed are you because only only a little bit like they basically offered up um guaranteed contracts to the companies so some got direct funding and i think uh pfizer got a guaranteed contract and did they did they like strip any of the regulations and approvals or make it streamlined or anything like that i can vaguely say i think so because i was just having this like i didn't go through the whole bill you know this realization today that really the the fda and regulations and clinical trials and all that that is what's standing in our way of ending all this all this ending the lockdown ending the

social well i mean we need we need the vaccine yeah i'm saying do you watch utopia dude i'm the one that told you to watch i know but like did you watch the new the new one i did not watch in the new one there is a wealthy you know biotech guy who wants to create a world with no racism or sexism or inequality. So he stages a fake pandemic so that they can ram through a vaccine without proper protocols. And then the vaccine actually just sterilizes people. Right. Make people beg.

Beg to take the vaccine, which is the thing that actually sterilizes them. And then... Have you seen the end yet? I saw it. No, I fell asleep. I think. But the idea was people would beg for it and not realize for five or ten years that the next generation. So now in D.C., there's a story you sent me.

Yeah, they just they just approved ten to three approved. Children can get vaccinated without the parents knowing. Yeah. Whoa. So imagine this. Vaccines can get vaccinated without the parents knowing. Whoa. So imagine this. Vaccines can have adverse reactions. That's a fact. Complications tend to be rare, but they do happen. So if you've got, you know, how many people live in D.C.?

700,000. In D.C. proper? D.C. proper. Like 3 million maybe in there. 3 million. No, no, no, just in D.C. proper. Just 700,000. Well, actually, I guess if the kid lives outside of D.C. but goes to school in D.C., that could happen, right?

It could. So then you've got a couple hundred thousand kids maybe potential. There's like 80,000 kids in the school district, in the school system in D.C. So of this 80,000, there is possible complication that might arise. Oh, for sure. The mother's watching their kid convulse on the floor screaming i don't know what's going on i don't know what's going on she calls 9-1-1 and they say has your son been given any medication no he hasn't okay and then they give the kid a

counter-indicated medication and the kid just explodes right in front of everyone yeah figuratively i mean when i saw the headline for that article i didn't think it was true and it's i watched the video how you do when you sent me the link of the video time stamped for my dc city council like approving some bill like that it made me laugh that you were paying that close attention to the dc council bunch of jokers well when i saw that the the story came out saying the dc city council has voted they said they plan to finalize a vote allowing children to get back as young as 11 get vaccinated vaccinated without parental consent. I looked up the hearing and I watched the video of them all voting on it.

10 to 3. 10 to 3. Yeah. And it's not even just that it's without parental consent, but it is a legitimate conspiracy to keep parents uninformed where the doctor can order the vaccine for the 11-year-old who has given their, quote, informed consent. The 11-year-old. Right. And then they bill the insurance company without notifying the parent.

And then when the insurance company sends you a statement, they can leave out the description of benefits. So you have no idea what that service was. So the whole, there's no paper trail there's no anything you're completely cut out when you go to the hospital they ask if you've taken any medications recently you know if you know and there and there's probably they might tell the kid like here's what you should or shouldn't do after getting this vaccine if the kid has some kind of complication and the mom doesn't know the mom could do something very serious that could harm

the child yeah or or just the fact that how can you do that to my child what what what troubles me is establishing some notion that an 11 year old can give consent now i haven't i listen tim tim you know you know that we know some people that trade in crazy theories and we know that there's a universe out there for crazy theories and there's one crazy theory that i've never given any credence to which is that there's some sort of grooming, a future grooming of like pedophilia, right? Like making it okay for adults to have sex with kids, which is obviously the most disgusting thing you can think of.

And I've always discounted. I've never paid attention to it. Sure, there's instances where children are molested, assaulted. It's a horrible, terrible thing. We must stop it. But when you start defining legally the fact that an 11 year old can give informed consent to where else can they give this level of consent at 11 years old it's you know that a very popular social media app created they had

these stickers where that would say like new years and like happy day and there was one of them that said they put out a video i think it was snap Snapchat. I could be wrong. It said, you know, love knows no age. Terrible. And people started saying, what do you mean? Like, yeah, it's not. Maybe you're trying to say, like, if you're 50 and you're dating someone who's 20, it's kind of weird. But like, it's legal. But like, you're going the wrong way with this one, because that's not what people hear.

Exactly. but like you're going the wrong way with this one because that's not what people hear exactly and so when i brought this up to some of my friends and family about this new law in dc which luckily has only passed the council it still needs mayoral execution which is probably going to get but then luckily in dc we don't have home rule for real and so the final law gets approved by congress i've already started lobbying sympathetic congressmen as a way to get senate and uh no it just gets approved by the house they're gonna approve it it's democrats true but there are ways there are ways to to to do i've seen independent renegade acting isolated representatives in the house affect dc law because it was their pet issue they find ways through amendments or whatever the case may be. So I started lobbying people because I can't let the tap.

I tried to explain to my friends and family what it meant and they read it. And then they did. They come back with the most charitable, charitable, like, oh, well maybe they didn't word it the right way or that's not exactly what they mean.

Exactly right. It's the same thing when you send people to the old BLM website where it said that they wanted to disrupt the nuclear family and blah, blah, blah. They got rid of that now. I know they did. Yeah. And, and you, I sent the, um, the guy that, uh, that live streamed the, the Portland murder. I interviewed him for like an hour and a half going through his tape back and forth.

And at the end, I'm trying to ask him, why are you doing this? He's like, my daughter's got me roped into it not roped into but she's teaching me about it whatever i was like do you know what it says you're a family man you're a dad you you're the center of your family and you're taking care of your kids and you believe in the power of fatherhood and the nuclear family let's read what it says on black lives matter website about disrupting the nuclear family and he read it and he was like, oh, they just probably had a bad editor. It's like people won't just read the plain language on the paper. The throne was seized a long time ago

by this ideology. And it's interesting because we had Hotep Jesus on. Yeah, how was that? It was great. It was great. And he was basically saying that Ian was a pessimist and that Ian didn't trust in people. And that's why, like, you know, it was interesting to say because Ian's usually much more optimistic.

But the general idea is the people who have who are in positions of power, the political establishment, they think that people are better off being told what to do instead of being given the freedom to do it. Michael Bloomberg is the perfect example when he said tax the poor. And I don't mean that hyperbolically. He literally gave a speech about taxing the poor being the right thing to do. He said, we need to tax the poor because they make terrible decisions. And if we have their money and make the decision for them, they'll be better off. To varying degrees, I understand what he's trying to say. I can agree in some capacity the problem is the bigger picture is a decentralized network deciding for itself will be infinitely smarter and faster moving and better than a command economy yeah i i'm much more in favor i'm in favor of a

mixed economy like we definitely need a government that can say hey whoa wow that was a really bad thing we did you know the market's going crazy we need to figure this out before everything goes nuts but i don't so i'm not a laissez-faire capitalist but i also don't think a command economy with one person dictating what you should or shouldn't do makes sense these people do so bloomberg passes the tax on sugary drinks it's like no dude like you you need a cultural shift to get people to do to do better you can't just mandate you can't drink soda you know what i mean right you you figure out the right way to get people uh like i don't know it's got it's got to be a cultural shift it's got to be based upon

giving people the choice to do the right thing taxing things but but giving people the choice to do quote the right thing but comes with the acceptance that people are going to do the wrong thing yep and being prepared for that and being willing to do the wrong thing. Yep. And being prepared for that and being willing to live with those consequences. Are you an optimist or a pessimist? An optimist would say, I think that in a long enough period of time, humans have the house advantage 51 to 49. So the way a casino works is they don't care if you win.

They love it when you win. Good. It's marketing for them. They want you to cheer. And so everyone hears you winning and then makes them gamble more because on a long enough time frame the house always wins because their edge is you know over a point that's this the same thing in terms that's how i view uh giving people free choice we've proven consistently that on a long enough time frame humans tend towards succeeding very well actually and these people don't believe it these people think humans don't have the edge and need to be that on a long enough time frame, humans tend towards succeeding very well, actually. And

these people don't believe it. These people think humans don't have the edge and need to be constrained. And that has led to disaster every time it's been tried every single time. Yeah, one thing that works just as well as success being rewarded is failure being, you know, consequences for failure, right? Yeah, people make dumb decisions, they don't have to make dumb decisions for very long, unless, of course, we're all going to socialize their bad decisions, which is when you get into that hybrid space where you give people the freedom to do what they want.

Then when they make the bad decision, then you have to pick them up and take care of them. I remember my dad used to describe to me welfare. He's like, son, do you want people banging on your door looking for bread? Or do you want to just give it to him like it's not a bad not a bad thought with that being the assumption that there was always going to be people looking for bread right yep the way the way i put it is they say you know if you uh if you give a man a fish you feed him for a day if you teach a man a fish you feed him for the rest of his life well the left often says like you can't lift yourself

up by your bootstraps if you don't have any boots. And I'm like, yeah, it's really simple. You teach a guy to fish, hand him a fishing rod and say, have at it. And that's the end of it. Yeah. Give them the means to do the fishing. So there are certain things. So that's why I'm, you know, left leaning in certain, like, I'm independent and left leaning a bit. Because, like, yeah, we'll take a person, you know, they're struggling.

Teach them to fish. Give them the fishing rod. You know, we can't take care of you forever forever but we can do our best to help you out you know i've i've gotten uh unemployment benefits when i was in my 20s and it saved my life kept me from being homeless yeah so i think these can be good things the problem is when people get addicted to them and it's just easier to stay on than to get off yeah and so now what we're seeing with the covid lockdowns is that instead of figuring out a way to survive a lot of people are just screaming for the government to print more money and that's literally calling for the destruction of your economy they don't care it's just people screaming to extract more from the machine is not they just

is they don't care 99 of people in america can't even like point out where washington dc is on the map much less understand the long-term ramifications of increasing the money supply. So who knows? But maybe we're facing a huge demand shortage, so deflation is our biggest enemy. I don't know. I did just see the house prices in D.C. are going up. There's a huge spike in real estate activity. I think the rich are going to have... It's the's the greatest it's the greatest thing in the world man. If you're if you're rich think about what this means. They're going to decimate the economy the lockdown and then you can go buy all that property up two things happen for one the interest rates are in the gutter because they're like oh no the economy.

Oh the interest rates drop everything down. And so you can buy up all this property and get a great rate and the property value is tanking in a lot of places especially New York. And then what happens when they're like we've just deployed the vaccine and the property values skyrocket back up again the economy collapses the rich people buy everything up and then it comes back and now they control everything and it comes and goes in waves they keep doing it so poor people lose everything they're struggling begging for help and the rich are getting richer bezos is net worth skyrocketing amazon's value skyrocketing all these big companies all their revenue everything's skyrocketing because they locked down small business it's uh you know people are fighting back i saw a little bit i saw i saw like a burger shop who was defying uh the codes and doing go fund me's for the fees for the

for the the fines yeah and i saw another gym owner who refused at the rate of like $15,000 yeah he's like he tore it up I think yeah yeah you know we we need we need more of that and and I recommend action like that where you're directly if you're going to protest confronting the rule enforcer or the rule maker that is legitimately authorized by the government don't put your local hostess at the restaurant in a hard spot by refusing to wear a mask or not complying don't be that jerk you know it's not her decision dude just make her life easier it sucks for her too you know i understand wearing masks i understand wearing masks when you're going shopping i don't understand masks

when you go to a restaurant and you walk in and they say right this way and then they sit you down and take your mask right off well dude now uh in dc the restaurants are like you have to have your mask on the whole time the whole time you're not eating anytime the wait staff approaches the table you must put your mask on and i went out the other night and and i'm eating and i've got the cloth napkin it's like a really thick nice white napkin and they're they come up with the next drink and they just kind of stand there sheepishly from like six feet away. And I went like this.

Instead of putting a mask on, I just went like this with the napkin, you know? And then the guy's like, that's not how you do it. That doesn't work. He goes, it's dirty. I'm like, what do you mean it's dirty? Just like masks, it's all dirty.

Everything's dirty. He's like, you're doing it wrong. You're doing it wrong. And my girlfriend told me, you know, these people think that they're risking their lives. Yeah. They've been lied to. They're risking their lives by doing this service for you and that they're at risk of dying.

If I don't, if the difference between me putting up a cloth napkin versus a cloth face mask is making people insane. It makes me not want to go out. It makes me not want to hang out with people like that. You know, I don't, I don't know anybody who's like that. You don't,

because I mean, they don't come here. I know they exist. I've talked to them, but like my, my circle of friends and family, they just don't, they're just not like that.

Yeah. You see that, that funny meme, it says, uh, it's like normal people and it's a guy wearing that gigantic it's it's a gigantic thing you put over your your head and it's got a vent that pulls air in it's like a clear front and a big and it's like you're going

underwater it says like it's like normal people and then under it says conspiracy theorists and it's people smiling and having turkey and thanksgiving exactly you know yeah isn't that oh actually i can pull it out because i think i think mike sternovich we have the meme yeah one second to find the meme isn't that the thing the conspiracy theorists are the ones who want to have school open and the ones who want to have thanksgiving and travel and get back to work and open up the economy tim if you were an 85 year old grandmother with 12 grandchildren all in grade school right now, and you thought yourself you had two or three years left of life, would you demand that your grandchildren be deprived of their senior prom

and their last varsity year of sports and hang out with their friends so that you can live out one or two extra years of your life no of course not no one would no grandmother would why don't we let the grandparents decide on the lockdown you got to see this thing here this is this is the meme normal people look at this thing this guy's wearing like okay jack can't see it at all so so normal people aren't really wearing these things this is like a weird marketing thing people are trying to do but then conspiracy theorists it's like grandma like giving the turkey and grandma's smiling everyone's clapping and happy and yeah man people they

tell you what they they accuse you of what they're doing yep yeah that's basically it's very it's and it's working and so if the republicans are sitting there with their feet up smoking cigars being like dude i don't want to be involved i'm just happy to get paid and so you've got one side when we had hotep jesus on he was talking bad about the democrats and i was like we do that we smack talk democrats all the time oh yeah and i was like what do you think about republicans and he said something like i don't know that the republicans are doing anything that i could actually complain like i actually like talk about it all. What do they do?

And I'm like, they don't do anything. They're literally just sitting around pretending to fight, I guess. How many hearings have they had on big tech censorship and done nothing about it? Oh, those Republicans. Yes. Oh, I don't mean the people. Yes. No, I mean the politicians.

Yeah. Yeah. No, I know the Democratic politicians are doing trash, but the Republican politicians are like, we're fighting for you. And then they sit down and they we hate them all. We hate them all. The MAGA movement has no respect for the GOP. We hope it dies and disintegrates and blasts into a million billion trillion pieces. And we can truly point the finger at them as the limiting factor in many ways in Trump's success.

So no love lost there. I was never a Republican. The book isn't Democrat to Republican. Right. Right. Right. It's Democrats are deplorable. You should you should write a new one called deplorable to ugly chumps. Ugly chumps.

That's what Biden called them. He called them ugly chumps. I'm an ugly chump. I bet. I bet. I bet I could be Biden in the pushup contest. Yeah, you sure. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You probably could. Did you know that Biden gave a speech today or something? Nope. Nobody did. Politics. forget about politics tim we're moving i'm gonna i'm gonna make some skate videos do it i want to know first of all i think that you should lay down seven more tracks and put out an album i think that that first song that i heard blew my mind no offense exceeded all my expectations the video was. You can play and sing

and it's on point. And we need art. We need art like that. We need videos and movies and books and literature and music and music videos. So Tim, you should do that. I've often wondered coming up here so many times. Well, it's like 10 times I've been up here. And I wonder, where are you going to go, Tim? You're younger than me. You're 13, 14 years younger than me probably. How old are you? I'm 45. I'm 34. Okay 11. 11 years younger than me. You've got this whole YouTube empire

built. You're doing great. You're fulfilled and I'm wondering where are you going to go? What are you going to do next? And it sounds like you're starting to make some moves man. You're scaling back just a little bit. I've been doing this for a long time. Scaling back just a little bit and going to start doing some other projects. Oh, not scaling up. Scaling back, actually.

Scaling different. On the videos. On the videos. On the political videos. Right, right, right. So, I mean, maybe. We'll see what happens. I've taken, you know, I think the day after, it was a Sunday after the election, I took

the day off, like, for the first literal, I'm taking a day off. I've never done that before. The only times I've ever had office. Cause like I lost my voice or I had to get like a tooth, you know, fix or something. And so I had no choice, but take a day off that this was literally even like,

I'm going to go ride my bike. And then I rode my bike 32 miles and people are like, that's not a day off, dude. It's like you rode your bike 32 miles. It was, it was awesome. It was intense.

No, it was brutal. I was like, after like 20 miles, you know, I had 12 left. I just kind of like my brain shut off because I couldn't stop. I'm in the middle of the woods. There's nothing you can do. There's no, you can't call anybody.

You can't get a ride. It's like you either get on your bike and you finish the 12 miles or you just sit in the woods forever. That's awesome, man. So it was like my legs felt like it was a weird feeling, but it felt like I was ripping them to shreds. Tim, that's amazing. And I want all of you guys out there listening to this to take note get outside exercise get your heart rate going bro look at trees when was the last time you guys saw a freaking tree man get out there you gotta get out there for your sanity and to connect with nature and reset

yourself well i'm happy to hear that so i want to know more though i want to know we're gonna start doing events uh i don't know what's gonna happen because the lockdown stuff is getting it crazy is getting crazy but we're probably gonna do uh right now within the guidelines like we can have events you know we don't have 100 people we just have like you know maybe 20 people which is apparently fine but we're also in the middle of nowhere so like no one's coming out here but uh the goal is to just do some events and and start filming videos and uh the vlog channel is going to be more just fun and shenanigans i guess good just just just to like uh it's it's a combination of for one things things are going to start it depends on what happens i guess if if if you know all hell breaks loose in the next month or so you know the reason why i i i do political commentaries

because there's too much talk about there's just so much going on all the time right but i also think it's uh expanding the business i can only do so much as an individual and if i'm going to create different you know verticals different uh you know genre content channels so i the vlog channel was planned a long time ago this this channel run right now was originally the vlog but then covet happened i see so i was like we couldn't get i couldn't find the vlogger it was too hard to do covet happened so we're like we'll just do a talk show i guess now it's like okay now we get the vlog going talk show is relatively easy to do because we've been hearing the news all day. We sit down.

We have a conversation. You have great guests. Indeed. The best guests. The six segments I do on my other channels, Timcast and Timcast News, those are a lot harder to produce. Yeah. So I don't script anything, but it is reading for hours nonstop in the morning, all day, all night, constantly just pulling things up. And doable, but it's intense yeah you have amazing retention i remember everything it's just yeah i like it i like it sometimes when i'm riffing on just bigger picture issues you stop

and you're like well no and then there's this process then this thing and that thing and that thing i'm like sweet i read that's exactly what i need hundreds of articles a day probably yeah and so the reason why you get into this groove where i read everything so it's like when i see a story and they say you know donald trump declares x i say oh wow because he declared y back then which means this and then you can pull that stuff up i do think it's funny when i i see like i'll notice something and there's there's oftentimes as much as the left won't admit, they hate admitting it or they don't actually watch my content. There's a lot of stuff that I report that's fairly original.

And then I see it right, you know, pop up in a bunch of, we're not saying similar things and then, you know, becomes a meme or something. Yeah. Yeah.

So, but at a certain point, you know, it's like political commentary I feel like is just one direction that has its, its cap. And if I'm going to expand the business and do more, that means I got to lead the charge. So that's been one of the biggest challenges.

There's no, what do they call it? Like a turnkey business where it's like you click the button, walk away and the business makes money. It doesn't work in this industry. Or any. I mean, but no, I mean like the idea is it was from, I was watching a King of the Hill episode where, you know, he can buys a car wash. A turnkey you set it up people go there they put the

money in the machine they use the car wash they leave yeah and then you come back you know you know every every night you pick up the money and then you go deposit the bank and repair the machines and pay the insurance right right but you're not there managing a day-to-day basis i know yeah it's just sort of a myth this idea that there's a business that runs itself passive income isn't hardly passive at all and you definitely need to lead the charge expand right expand i mean do you think that there's a social emotional toll on focusing on on on the conflict and chaos and politics all the time does it get to you ever no i've been because i've been focused on it my entire life yeah because i got i was, I was, I would, because I was 14, nine 11 happens. Yeah.

Then we get all the war stuff, all of the music videos, all the celebrities, everything they're screaming in my face. Barack Obama comes around, we're going to end these wars. I vote for him. Then he lied to me. So it was like, it was endless. It was endless. So I started working for nonprofits and then it was literally endless.

I'll tell you what, man, I worked for a nonprofit in California and it was when the deep water horizon thing happened when the oil spill happened in the Gulf. And they gave us this fact sheet. So I'm waving to people, and I'm like – I was like, hey, we got a serious disaster. Did you hear what happened in the Gulf? Like Deepwater Horizon erupted. We're trying to get funding for awareness. We need support.

And people will be like, wow, I didn't know that. We had pictures and everything. And then one day I waved to a guy and I say, here's what's happening. Here's how much is spilled. And he goes, that's not true. And I was like, what? And he goes, that's not true.

It hasn't spilled that much. The actual amount it spilled is like, you know, it's like 10 times less. And I was like, oh, and it's like, why are you lying to me? And I was like, I know this is what they gave me. Like, yeah, why did they give you lies? And then I got really angry, called up my boss right away and said,

yo, some guy just told me I was lying. I just looked it up. This isn't true. Like you told us to go and raise money this is not true and he goes um yeah you know uh well just keep keep using it and uh and i was like you're asking me to commit fraud like to lie knowingly lie to someone to get them to give me money i'm not doing that they fired me good for you tim well i mean i can't i'm like i'm not gonna go to jail for this like i know i'm lying to you but give me your money anyway yeah people lie and get money all the time without going to jail so good on you there's been a vigilante in you forever i imagine well so that was that was you know i worked for

non-profits and then eventually i was like these companies they're just companies the non-profits they're companies they have a bottom line. They want to make money. And there's like, you know what I learned? The real nonprofits, the real charities are the small ones where it's like a dude who picks up a bunch of hot meals and drives them around himself to, yeah, it's like a church. They drive around hot meals to people who are hungry and to the elderly. Those are the real charities. Then you see all these like TV charities and these big brand charities one look at joe biden's charity right they gave zero towards cancer research was a foundation supposed to give out grants they gave like nothing it was all

salaries like just like big six-figure salaries that's i'm not gonna i'm not gonna make any accusations but let me tell you something if you get dirty money if you need to take some dirty money you do you start a charity right if you gotta pay out dirty money, if you need to take some dirty money, you do. You start a charity. Right. If you got to pay out dirty money, you hire people, you know, for that charity, you pay him a salary. And then once it runs out, you shut it down. Exactly.

Right. Cleaned. Exactly. Right. Yeah. I'm not saying that's what he did. I'm just saying, you know, it's easy to do. And it happens all the time.

And there's all kinds of nonprofits like that operating Washington, D.C. And, you know, people get paid and they pay taxes, but it's tax deductible for the donors, which makes it a nice thing for them. It's better than paying someone directly. It's not tax, you know. So it's tax advantaged. It's all a game, Tim. All of it is a game. I teach my son.

At a very young age, he learned to ask who's who's getting paid where's the money going what does alex jones always say as a key bono key bono yeah it's like uh benefits yeah benefits yeah exactly yeah so my even my son at like eight nine was like somebody somewhere's getting paid yeah true someone's finding something from this so so. So when it comes to the political commentary stuff, it's like I'm doing more than anybody else. This show is the most fun out of any of the commentary I do. So it's like as long as we keep booking people and keep doing stuff like this, it's a lot less stressful. It's a lot more fun and engaging yeah and uh it requires me to like i'm not as like so much time is consumed on my other show which is an hour and 45 minutes a

day of political commentary and various news stories and that's a lot harder to produce and and uh it's it's tough but it's funny i do the opposite so for me like coming here you're right easy easy to uh not have to prepare a whole lot for my interview show. Like I will. I spend probably 10 hours preparing for each interview. Read the art, read their latest book, read their latest commentary, be up to speed and go slow and like get into it. And I wish I could put out two or three of those a week, but I can only do them in bursts like eight and ten at a time over like two or three weeks and then i'm just exhausted because it's so much work i love it though not complaining so here's

the other thing uh when i was covering stuff on the ground i would walk like 10 miles 20 miles a day in some instances it was great i was doing parkour like no joke during occupy wall street what made me effective in live streaming was that i could run through a packed crowd you get a packed crowd of a thousand protests in the street and i could move through a packed crowd you get a packed crowd of a thousand protesters in the street and i could move through it as if there was no one there because i was like jumping left right crouching going you know going under people's arms and stuff and then finding the spaces jumping over things and then you spend so much time the past couple years just sitting in a chair all day every day i'm trying to skate as much as possible but man is it it just feels bad

i've been i've been i've been extremely physically physically active my whole life skateboarding since i was younger and uh so i used to skate eight hours a day just endlessly just gaunt and covered in sweat not able to eat i used to eat like i used to eat a ridiculous amount like 10 000 calories a day just to keep up with skating that's how intense it was now i'm sitting in a chair and it's like ah this is awful you know it's just it's too much but the problem is i can't even go to the dmv to get like my license updated because i work literally until 4 30 from the morning and then i eat get some exercise and

then prepare for this show and i'm like that's not that's not that's untenable at a certain point it was it was it worked out for the past two years because we had the midterms until the 2020 election. But now I'm like, you mentioned that music video, right? I wrote that song. I wrote the story, the music video, everything it's based on. I executive produced it. So basically, the animation directors, the animators in the studio who put it together, they did a bunch of brilliant stuff, like the color changes. Each different political faction has a different color. But basically, they'd send it back to me and say, here's what we need to do.

Here's what we need to do. So one of the things we did was they added something that's really interesting. At one point, at the last verse, there's a sign on the TV that says, don't trust the wolf. Something they just added. And then I said, make the kid holding a stuffed wolf animal under the bed. So now it's like, yeah. Nice. And so basically, I came to them with a

story i dictated it they record like a nishira recorded me telling the story what the song is going to be basically what it is and then i performed it wrote the lyrics and then you know helped like produce the video there's a ton of other ideas i have for a bunch of really great short films and documentary stuff that i've never been able to produce. So at a certain point, if I want to actually expand, I have to stop hyper focusing in one area, slow, you know, pull back and then dedicate more time in another area. Yeah. So if I do only two of these segments a day instead of six, I would be doing my show would be cut down to about my main podcast would be about 50 minutes, 50 to 55 minutes down from an hour and 45. This show would be exactly the same.

But that means I could finish up way earlier. And that means I can spend more time shooting the vlog content, selling merch, making cool stuff, playing with lasers and gadgets also though hiring people to do documentary films like doing legit long-form documentary stuff real impactful stuff sending out a crew to go and cover a big political issue and giving them like a decent budget and stuff that requires oversight so that's kind of the part of the plan moving into management tim i mean to a degree yeah yeah so it's it's like i mean what it's it's it's like, I mean, it's... That's what happens. Well, it's not that it's what happens.

It's like, man, it's just like, I'm at this point where if I just do the exact same thing I do every day, six segments, then this show, that's the plateau. How do you expand beyond that? You can't. Yeah, you can't. If I'm the person who's physically doing it all, I can't hire someone to do commentary for me. I can't be like, you know, hey, you talk fast here. Come sit here and record this segment before I'm the person who's physically doing it all, I can't hire someone to do commentary for me. I can't be like, hey, you talk fast here. Come sit here and record this segment for me. I can create a channel where we have a variety of hosts who do certain things.

So there's definitely plans for more content. But that means I have to free up some of the time throughout the day to bring on more people to do more stuff. And so part of it is I'm going to have more time to, for one, exercise, skate. But we're going to film that and we're going to use that for a brand and merchandise and just having fun. And at the same time, I could still theoretically do all that right now because I have that about an hour every day. But then I want to do like that music video. I need time to record music. More importantly, though, I got some really great ideas for short films and documentaries.

You got to expand your creative horizons and make time. We got to launch the – so here's what I've been saying to people for a long time. COVID caused this problem. It was two years ago. The plan was to launch an actual brand. And then COVID happened and everything went – and just like was a sledgehammer to all the plans. Tim Pool stops at a certain point you know i've gotten i've gotten beautiful offers from big companies that would have set me up for life and i'm like yeah

but you know i gotta be honest like i don't think i think a lot of a lot of people who work at some of these companies who so i've been to these big podcasting companies and they're like here's what we're offering you and i'm like i don't think you're as good as business as i am you're as good at business as i am i think if i was in charge of this with no contracts and nothing holding me down i'd make way more money so at a certain point i need to create a brand that can house more than just me and my name so i can bring on people who i think have talent who need uh a place to get that you know step up opportunity or whatever people who are really good at something but don't know place to get that you know step up opportunity or whatever people who are really good at something but don't know how to get that path forward so you're a capitalist

in the capital sense of the word at this point well not that you weren't but i'm saying but i'm saying moving moving to you know trading your labor for using your capital and putting that to work yeah i know a lot of people who uh have some skills that they probably can't market. Like it's how skateboarding works, for instance. Pro skateboarders are struggling right now because the industry has changed dramatically. It used to be you got a sponsorship from a company. You say you go pro. You have your pro model.

It's a board with your name on it. That board is sold in stores and you get a dollar every time a board sells. But you might sell a lot all over the country with millions of skateboarders, tens of millions, you know, or more. You might sell a decent amount and you're going to get paid well. But you also have magazine spots. They call it photo incentive. So if you appear in a magazine doing a trick and you can see the board, they cut you a check for 500 bucks right on the spot. Well, it's changed now. Nobody reads magazines. They used to put out promo videos like the video drops at this point they still kind of do they still do but instagram happened youtube happened now the highest paid professional skateboarders in the truest sense of the word are not even that good they're just fun

to hang out with so you watch their video and it's a dude who can skate in his buddies and they're doing funny things having a good time and it's entertaining and they sell way more boards than some of the biggest companies that were like the pro and best skaters. Yeah. But pro skaters don't know how to actually sell the value of their skills. Right. And so what happens is a company says, we know that if we film you, we're going to sell boards. So you don't got to worry about it.

Otherwise, you don't make any money at all. Right. That's capitalism. Right. I think the left doesn't understand that. You can't just take a skateboard and be like, we're going to pay you. But North Korea does. No, for real.

They have like, this is the craziest thing about North Korea. They have skate parks and their kids who are told like your job will be to be to be a skateboarder. And that will make sure you always have your board and you go to the skate park and you skate and get good. That's crazy. Anyway, the point is. But I think the moral of the story here for you is is in today's day and age and especially with the audience that you've built already do do what's fun and your your audience is going to go with you well i mean i don't they don't they don't

there's no obligation and i think the oh they support you they love you dude that's what i mean there's a there's a lot that do and there's a lot that just casually watch for sure but i think the uh the point is i mean regardless figure out a way to do it. Do your thing. So it's really funny, because I got people smack-talking me. They're always talking smack. As if somehow, I all of a sudden, one day, came into money. And I was like, dude, I used to work for Disney.

This was six years ago I worked for Disney. Do you think they pay nothing? No. Disney paid stupid money. There was one instance where I'm just going to come on come on say because i got a problem talking about it i was trying to break my contract because they went full sjw and i was like i don't produce this stuff and one day i woke up with forty thousand dollars in my bank account i was like what is this and they were like oh it's it's your bonus and i was like for what like i'm not doing what you want me to do they were like you know just uh just uh and i'm like uh-huh sure and then sure enough it came time for my contract

my contract yeah yeah it was it was let's grease the wheels a little bit buddy why don't you produce some of this progressive sjw whatever and i'm like nah and so then when my contract came came due they were like so and i was like so they're like, okay, have a nice day. Yeah. And I'm like, later. Yeah. So I've, you know, and then I had to figure out, like, I've saved a bunch of money over the years working hard every day.

Every day, consistent, hardest working man in this whole medium. I say it all the time. So I started a business. I started YouTube. And I flew to Europe and I flew to Sweden. And that cost a lot of money. I didn't make that money back for a while. So I had this money saved up. I invested it and I started doing that, went down that route, and then started doing more and more. And it's funny because people think like we bought this really, I bought this really big house and

people are like, wow, Tim must have won the lotto. I'm like, dude, I was trying to buy this property a year and a half ago and then COVID happened. uh it was it was a year and a few months ago i was doing i was touring buildings trying to find it our sale fell through and then like winter hit and made everything really hard to go and check things out but then when covet happened it was like that was the end of it so then when it came to you know at a certain point we were on like a hiatus for like four or five months i was like now we gotta we gotta force this through by however by whatever means necessary because otherwise we're just sitting here doing nothing and it's the same thing every single day yeah now we have the house we're not quite set up i got good

news what's that gigabit internet will be here in three weeks gigabit so no more uh internet cutting out when we do shows or can i can i tell them this to tim text me a couple weeks ago he's like dude you have good internet i'm like yeah i'm like that's like a week ago yeah i'm like i'm like yeah i got good internet he's like can i give you an 83 gigabit file to upload he's gonna drive it to my house so that we could upload it was on my 75 up and down and now yeah yeah so uh i had i had i had it driven to uh philly where we have gigabit it was faster because it would have taken so i i set it to upload overnight it's like 15 hours to upload and then it crashed browser crash and i'm like so i tried it again whatever browser crashed faster to drive there

and back and drive there upload it and drive it was like four four or so hours to drive there but then it uploads in 10 minutes right so it's just like might as well just send someone out that was the the sunday special with ben shapiro which is really funny because these like a lot of these lefties who are like the the leftist youtube people they're man i gotta say they're low information people like they're not good at connecting the dots and i don't know if it's just the active twitter people who do it or whatever but they're like they're spreading this meme around that i refuse to have people on my show because we don't know if it's just the active Twitter people who do it or whatever, but they're like, they're spreading this meme around that. I refuse to have people on my show because we don't have good enough internet or something like that. I don't do Skype, but that I did a Skype with Ben

Shapiro. And I'm like, I didn't, I recorded it hard to the camera. And then I sent the file to be uploaded. It was like, uh, I'm honored. It was, I thought it was a good show, but it was like uh i'm honored it was i thought it was a good show but it was it was like we did a a standard call low res like not broadcast quality conversation where i could hear him and then he would ask and then i would answer and then i took the hard file and had to upload it because uh it was long story short first of all we don't have actually is there a screen anywhere in front of you jack no screen sometimes i there was. I have this little monitor down here. I have this little monitor down here. And we have multiple people and we're not set up in any way for Skyping.

And the internet can't handle two streams up and down. It's bad enough that our internet cuts out. Could you imagine if in the middle of it our gas cuts out, we can't come back? No. So I'm just like, dude, we're not designed for that. But I'll tell you something else, man. Online interviews are a waste of time. Oh, get out of here, dude.

It's my bread and butter, and I think I've gotten really good at them. He makes it work. Well, okay, fine. To be fair, there is a big difference between we're talking, and then I can see it in your eyes, I can see it in your face. You might be like, wait, wait, wait, hold on. You'll interrupt me. When it comes to online stuff, it's like I ask, you answer.

I wait, you ask, I answer. I wait. It becomes, it's good for probably an interview on facts and data and stuff like that. But when it comes to having a real conversation, there's nothing that beats sitting down with people. Yeah. No, I agree. In person is very good.

That said, I think, you know, in my defense, Jack Murphy Live on YouTube, baby, I can, I can, I think, reach a good creative spot with somebody on a remote interview. Well, I think I think you've done like this. The thing you did with Matt Brainerd was was significant, important. Yeah. That interview on, you know, so that's the voter integrity fund finding, you know, actual evidence and looking at the data. So, you know, it's better, better to do it than, you know, if you can't get someone in person do it right yeah definitely uh you know the sound quality must have been really good when you did it the way that you had done it because you had hard live recordings in each places and then they just merged the video everything was pristine

perfect quality and i'm like did you not realize that i had a 4k video no no artifacting perfect audio it was 83 gigs and then we sent it out for upload and then they edited them together. Yeah. Yes. Some people notice. They're like, yeah, I realize it sounded like you were you were reading answers like you were giving your answers to specific questions. I'm like, right, because that's the only way we could really, you know, we could really do it. You know, I guess the other issue, too, is like, first of all, I don't go on anybody's shows but i made an exception

for ben shapiro because you know he's ben shapiro it's a it's a big show and uh i've interviewed him in the past and so he hit me up and i was like yeah okay you know like but there's a lot of shows i won't go on people's shows for the most part yeah i i got very little time at all and and so that that that that was it i woke up at eight you know'm sorry. I woke up at 7, reading the news, start recording, start my research from 8 to 4.30, recording and everything. And then from 4.30 until 6 or whatever, it was setting up and doing the recording for Ben. Then once I was done, I grabbed a bite to eat, came upstairs, and we did the next show. Grinding, grinding, grinding. It's one of the reasons I don't do other people's shows.

One thing you've been talking about, which I think is good to, for people to remember is like, you have to be very mindful with your time. You have to be very like deliberate with your decisions around your time and time management. I personally have been working to try to make sure that I say no to enough things so that I can say yes to the things that are important to me. I've had,

I've had some pretty big shows and I'm just like, i can't do it the the traditional ones i used to ignore like when i when i get hit up by like you know fox news i don't want to call them out but i'm just like there's literally no upside for me to spend my time like if you want to offer me a hard contributorship they pay they pay millions of dollars some of these people it's insane to get to get a guarantee like if we hitch up at this time you got to come on but i wouldn't i wouldn't do any of those deals man i think i think it's a bad idea if i had you know a podcast network i've had them come at me and i've had networks be like massive massive offers you know just like rich for life kind of offers and i'm like nah it's not it's not worth it it's

not i wouldn't do it i went down that route with uh with disney and it was a mistake so you know we'll see how it plays out for you know there's some other shows that took big deals not gonna mention any names no but uh you know i think i kind of feel like i mean no no sure i'll say i mean it's pointless not to but i think you know i think joe rogan took the spotify deal because what the wall street journal journal reported it was like 100 million dollars yeah i think it's gonna it's gonna slice away the overwhelming majority of his audience on december 1st joe rogan is going exclusive on spotify so he's gonna he's gonna be it's gonna be a major boost to spotify but he's going to he's going to be it's going to be a major boost to Spotify, but he's going to be off iTunes. You know what happens when someone for the first time opens the iTunes app to find a podcast?

Joe Rogan. Of course, that's that's that's that's the best real estate in the podcasting world that he's losing. But for good reason, I mean, yeah, you know, so but there there is a analogous situation here in in broadcasting history. If you remember Howard Stern. Yep. Howard Stern. How's he doing? Wild.

I mean, he's still rich, right? Sure. Wildly popular AM radio host on public broadcast FM radio. And then XM. Right. Or was it serious? Serious. One of them was serious.

They're now they're now the same took hired him away into this walled off paid pay per prescription and i think that they were pretty pleased that they did that he made a ton of money he was uncensored in a way that he was yeah couldn't have been on the public radio broadcast radio rather uh and what did it do for his career did did it made him wealthy but did it make him have wider reach, more narrow reach? No, but for me, I'd call it retirement. Is he still even doing it? He is. He is, and he's super anti-Trump, and he's super pro-establishment. He's apologized for being off-color and stuff.

He's really just become this vanilla yogurt, boring. I don't listen to his show, to be honest, but I was reading some articles. He was funny back in the day. Back, back, back. Oh, yeah. He's apologized for a ton of the things. He's denied saying some of the things he said in the past he was a shock jock he was the shock jock i look at it this way man if if somebody takes a massive payout to do that big jump

for me in my personal opinion and i mean no disrespect to howard stern or joe i look at it like you're it's a retirement it's like you do this hard work you do it for a long time you reach the top of the mountain. What do you do? Someone comes along and says, we're going to cash out your chips. $100 million. Yeah, okay. I'm done, man.

I beat the casino. I'm ready to go. Now I can hang out. To be fair, though, Joe got one of the best deals in the world. He's getting Wall Street Journal report. I'm assuming that their facts are straight they said 100 million bucks and now he's got to worry about getting banned dude well is that really accurate i mean i suppose the contract is so big that they're not going to cancel him due to internal pressure i kind of feel

like i wonder if in his contract it says if they sever, he gets to pay out. Because then it's kind of like, ban me. Do it. Right. Because then I'm free and I get the money anyway. He'd be pushing that for sure. It's just an interesting thing to think about sort of setting up a walled garden around your content and what is the goal of what you're doing. I mean, I remember listening to the Joe Rogan podcast back when there was just, it was just this tripped out weird intro and they were just talking about MMA and his comedian friends.

And that was it. Do you know the story, the Joe Rogan, Tim Pool story? I mean, which one? The original, like how it all went down. No. This is a great story. So during Occupy Wall Street, like a month after Occupy. Drinking game with Occupy Wall Street.

So after, it was like a month after they shut down the park so it still existed joe's podcast was on you stream i think and he was getting like decent viewership but uh it was just like the joker experience on you stream it was you know and so people were tweeting at him you got to have tim pool on your show And so he tweeted at me something like, yeah, man, I'm down. Let's make it happen. We DM'd and then I was like super excited. And so I wasn't trying to push it because I was, I think I was 25 and I'm like, this is going to be awesome. Joe Rogan's famous comedian. So I bought a plane ticket and I said, okay, he's booked me. He's told me where to be. He's told me the time I got on the plane i fly to la as soon as i land my phone goes sorry dude i can't do it we got something come up and i was like

you know what man nobody i can't get mad at somebody for not doing me a favor but i was smart about it i said there's an event a protest happening in la so i definitely have something i can do while i'm here and i can hang out with people. So it was a bummer. Now, like, a year goes by and people are tweeting at Joe again, like, dude, you got to get on Tim Pool. Now it's 2012. And he tweets at me and he's like, he's like, you know, we tried doing it last year and it didn't work out. What do you say, man?

And I was like, yeah, let's do it, man, for sure. And he's like, all right, let's do it. So again, tells me the time, tells me the place. I get on the plane. I land. Sorry, dude. Can't do it. So again, tells me the time, tells me the place. I get on the plane. I land. Sorry, dude. Can't do it. And then he still had a show. He just bumped me for other people.

He bumped me for other people. What a dick. And so he double booked you. You flew across the country. Well, it was the first time then a year later. Dick move. This was back it was less formal and uh i was at a point in my career where i was like i have to take that risk

totally you know it's like if if he bumps me it's like i can't sit here and be like cover my costs do this i was like no i'm at that point like i'm not i think i had like 13 000 twitter followers but i had enough people following my live on the ground reporting that, you know, it got his attention. And so that was it. I was, I was, I was pissed. And I damned him. I was like, bro, how are you doing this? Like, are you kidding me, dude? Like, this is the second time I flew out here. And then he just didn't respond. And I was like, whatever, man, I'm over it. I'm over it. And so that was, that was it for a couple of years. And then I guess, uh, he, he, he just one day day hit me up and was like, bro, I'm so sorry about how that went down. I guess he was saying like he didn't realize because for him it was like he does his show and it doesn't matter.

Like he didn't realize I'm some dude like trying to come out all excited. And so he apologized and asked me to come. He's like, if you ever want to come to one of my shows, man, just let me know. And so we went because I was in Philly. and i was like you are you in philly anytime soon he's like oh dude i'm in philly like next week and i was like bro and he was like dude come on down went down to his show and then uh his show was amazing yeah and then he invited us backstage and hung out and he was like i'm sorry about that it was basically just like like i said you know for him he's this famous median he does his thing and it was kind of nonchalant like he didn't think it mattered and for me i'm like this

you know hungry young break yeah this hungry young dude like super excited and then it wasn't him trying to screw me over it was just like it was it was something came up and he didn't he's like whatever it would have been like getting booked for carson and you know in like the 70s or the 80s johnny carson and you're like in the green room, ready to go on. And they're just like, nah, sorry,

dude. But, uh, you know, but he was like, dude, I didn't realize you were flying out for this man. Like,

I feel so bad. He's like, you know, and then he's apologized. But then, uh, it's something funny happened. Um,

I did a video about his Jack Dorsey podcast that got like major downvotes. And, uh, I did like a 10 or 13 minute segment or something he auto copyright claimed it so i uh get a notification for a copyright claim that all my revenue is not going to go to this company and so i dm'd him like yo hey man like you i think i think it was automatic because i showed a screenshot of the podcast and then uh he was like oh sorry about that let me let me take care of it.

Then he comes back like 15 minutes later. He's like, hey man, you made some really good points. Can I, can I call you right now? And I was like, all right, sure. And so he calls me and we talked about just like what I had said in my segment about Twitter and the censorship and what was going on. And he was like, man, man. Yeah.

He's like, I, you know what, man? I owe you. You got to come on the show sometime. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. I'm like, yeah, yeah, no problem. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll figure it out. He's like i you know what man i owe you you got to come on the show sometime we'll figure out we'll figure out i'm like yeah yeah no problem he's like yeah yeah we'll figure out he's like dude i really appreciate this like you know helping me understand what's going on twitter and stuff i was like for sure so i'm sitting there in my in my shorts i'm playing world of warcraft and then my phone rings and i'm like it was joe rogan and i i'm like hello

and then he goes do you want to come on the show on friday and it was wednesday and i was like i gotta i got like this friday i gotta and it was wednesday and i was like i gotta i got like this friday i gotta fly tomorrow he's like yeah i was like all right like i guess so and then from there it just kind of fell into place the twitter thing with jack dorsey which i got i so basically after we did that show he was like we got to do something crazy and don't tell anybody we're gonna try and see if we can pull it off i don't know if it'll happen don't don't say you know if we talk about it it you know people probably they'll jinx it so we'll just see if it happens and then you get a call come out we're gonna do this thing and i was like

it's like i'm gonna sit in front of ceo of twitter and their lawyer and i was like whatever man dude you were on point i watched that one you were on point i didn't prepare like i didn't i didn't do any like extra extra yeah yeah like i didn't sit down and say like okay here's what i talk about i was just like yeah tell me where to sit you knew all the stuff already it's all in your head you know i i after the fact i was like oh there's a couple things i could have done better but whatever i'm not i wasn't there for anybody but you know i wasn't there for for for other people i was there because there was a lot of things i was angry about a lot of things i had seen that I wanted to talk about. So it didn't – it wasn't an issue. But I do think they thought it was going to be, why did you ban Alex Jones?

And they're going to be like, because he said this. And I would go, fine. No, it was like there's a deeper philosophical questions about what does it mean to break the rules? What's the political like perception on your rules? And like who made you the arbiter of what's what's acceptable politics and stuff like that yeah and it was clear too that they seem to be learning things from you at that time and they don't know exactly what's all going on inside of their nothing's changed nothing's changed i have i have a similar story about getting bumped several times dave rubin has asked me to come on his show three times now i did not fly out luckily but it's always like all right let's

do let's do it let's do it and then something happens let's do it let's do it and it's fine that's how it works the game works i did i did i did a live stream in like 2016 i think because people had asked me about what had happened with joe rogan and so i did a stream explaining what happened then i just said listen man i'm not mad at anybody because I can't get mad at someone for not doing me a favor. Like him offering me up this show. I was like flying out to L.A. the second time and getting bumped is mildly perturbing. I was mildly perturbed to put it put it that way. Yeah.

But but at the same time, it's like. I took the risk. I took the shot. It didn't happen. I'm not going to be mad at anybody. You know, I'm not gonna hold a grudge or anything like that. How do you handle something like that, Tim? What did you do?

What did you do when you get the call, when you get the text? You just landed, six-hour flight. I DMed him back like, yo, what, WTF? And then I moved on with my life. I was like, yeah, what do you – the problem was like I knew who he bummed me for. Who was that? I'm not going to say their name. It was multiple people.

But I guess for him it was like... Business. Yeah. I got these people. I can get them on right now. I better do it. I got to tell Tim I can't do it. And then he didn't know that I flew out.

I get it. So he probably didn't realize. Fair enough. I mean, I thought it was a dick move. But I don't hold it against him. This was eight years ago this was like his show was not that big it was just like you stream it was like you know one of the first like podcasts it sure was i didn't even realize i'm like why am i listening

to this it worked out for me because then he ends up being like i feel really bad about how that all went down man you should come out to my show and then come on the show and like we ended up doing uh one of the most significant shows he had like to sit down with this. Absolutely. And what's interesting to think about it is if he had had you on earlier, it would have been less impactful than you going on later when his audience had grown and his reach had grown such a dramatic effect.

Yeah. So it all worked out in the end, Tim. And now you're talking about skateboarding. Yeah. Well, so the, the,

the last time I went on earlier this year it was because i probably shouldn't there was there was somebody else who wanted to do a political discussion left right like you know me him and joe rogan and i'm like you're still just like one of the problems with these conversations on joe's show is often it's liberals and leftists talking about conservatives without bringing conservative on. He's had on Crowder before, I think, too. But like the Twitter thing was, you know, Rogan's pretty left. And then I'm like left leaning, but, you know, very critical of critical race theory and, you know, like a disaffected liberal type. But there were no hardcore conservatives in a conversation about conservative censorship. So that's that's one of the things, too.

So I went on Rogan's show earlier this year because we were supposed to do leftist commentator me and Joe, and then COVID happened. So the other person was like, I can't make it. And so I was like, I'll come, whatever. I'll take the van. I got this van. I need to drive it. We'll go drive it. The van, the white van.

I had a guy join the liminal order and I interviewed him just the other day who told me that he first started listening to Joe Rogan. Then he heard about you and then he saw me on your show. Right on. So the Joe Rogan radicalization funnel is in full effect. It starts with Joe, passes through Tim, ends up with me just radicalized doing all kinds of man stuff man stuff it's just amazing the way that the network works and how you put out content and people come to you and and how this whole web is just being woven all over the country and you're at the forefront man you're pushing things you're pushing huge numbers

and competing with the big guys i mean we got it we got it we got it we got to simmer down on politics a lot yeah we have to we have to so uh i can't announce anything specific but i'll just say and you know the details so don't say anything we're planning a really big show which is it's not going to be political but it's with someone very political it's going to get me in trouble it's gonna be but but yeah so well you know that's that's in a couple weeks i'm just asking for trouble doing what i do indeed well you gotta have fun i think you said to me once just to not be bored yeah so so the idea is we're having on some pretty prominent political uh figures but we're not gonna talk politics good because one of the things we were talking about it's like okay this is going to be risky youtube's like you know trigger trigger happy if we if we bring on some controversial figures but

i'm like or so it was proposed to me like we should talk about all these other things outside of you know basically once the media shifted to the trump narrative it's been trump talk politics all all day non-stop and there are other cultural issues yes that kind of got brushed aside in the past you know 10 months or whatever definitely five years even i am booking a whole new slot of guests for my podcast jack murphy live on youtube uh and i'm deliberately trying to stay away from politics history culture science futurism actors uh comedians like really trying to go with evergreen content back to things that can really help people in their lives rather than just swinging for the fences with the you know

brawling in the political sphere we're all kind of exhausted by that yeah yep yeah election's over so uh tomorrow i'm going i did one segment this morning and then i was like i don't take the rest of the day and then but we're to do the show late at night. And then tomorrow's Thanksgiving. I'm going to have some turkey or something. I have no idea. Whatever. But we should hit Super Chats because we went a little long.

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Let's read from some of these Super Chats. Colin P. says, people often need a common enemy to unite against to bring them together. I suggest us PS5 owners gang up on Tim for not having a PS5. Haha, you PS4 trash. Yes. I will have a PS5 in a couple days when it comes in the mail. PS4, more like PS poor. PS5. haha, you PS4 trash. Yes. I will have a PS5 in a couple days when it comes in the mail. PS4, more like PS Poor. PS5.

Just joking. All I play is Skater XL and Spelunky anyway. That's pretty straightforward. But it's because I beat Dragon Quest a long time ago, and I beat Skyrim 50 million times, and then Fallout 76 wasn't that good. So I used to play Destiny all the time and The Division. You ever play The Division? You play video games at all uh no when i was younger i pioneered the atari 2600 and

calico vision and all that you might like division i don't i don't know where they're at now division two but it's basically there's a pandemic causes you know basically complete collapse and then but the cool thing about it is that we're getting away from politics well but it's a game where it's like a tom clancy game you play a special operative uh the president enacts presidential directive 51 creating a you know the remnants of the government trying to hold things together and you're in new york the first one is new york city the second one i think this went back to new york city but what's cool is like the guns are real guns like you actually find guns and you do mods and i'm pretty sure for the most part they're based on all real guns like you actually find guns and you do mods and i'm pretty sure for the most part they're based on all real guns so it's like wait yeah it seems like you know a game conservatives probably get a kick out of i mean probably a lot of clancy games they'd probably like gerald's w says holy

cow twitter just suspended the republican who chairs the committee that held the hearing on pa's election today unbelievable we were talking about that earlier yep let's see the hylian juggalo says five years been a mental health nightmare friend had psych break from it he thinks he lives in 9601 down to the techie uh down to the tech he has talks only about events like bill's scandals stares into space if i bring up any event since 9 11 wow interesting crazy scott bullion says covid will never go away because democrats know how to steal elections now garrett crowell says 70 72 percent of republicans will leave the gop if a trump party is formed

trump needs to do this and pick his legislature turn the gop into a second party i mean that might result in a conservative split which gives democrats a super majority for a long time so bill clinton got elected yeah 40 something percent of the vote barely wow well that that was also ross perot that's i mean it was through three parties and and clinton didn't even win uh a majority or even come close jorian 144 says found you through jeremy from the quartering been stuck ever since we just had him on uh a couple days ago yeah jeremy's cool did we had him in you know i've known jeremy for a bit he's cool gone fall says about the biden laptop i saw a post about how the computer repairman closing shop and disappearing amid purported death threats your thoughts i did not hear that

it's what we talked about earlier man the uh uh it's the tactics that leftists use you you like so you have this judge issuing the injunction on the PA certification. And I'm saying like, I think, you know, Ian Miles Chong tweeted that judge is probably getting inundated with death threats right now. Right. Remember the judge who like the dude showed up to her house and shot her son? Yes. Shot her son and then like shot her husband and then took off or whatever. Dressed like a FedEx guy.

Man, it's like the movies. Crazy stuff. Worse. Demonic sensation says, hey, Tim, Jack and Lids love the stream. If Trump somehow wins, any thoughts on him standing down and Pence taking over to calm the leftist storm? Not sure if it's possible, but an interesting thought. Hey, from Australia, by the way, I don't I don't think that would calm anybody.

Pence would not calm the left at all. Yeah, he's he's like he's far more conservative. Right. The joke is, yeah, way more conservative than right the joke he's yeah way more conservative the joke was like if you impeach trump and convict him you're gonna get pensed like have you thought about that think ahead let's see jarhead steve says if this continues the bell ringers are going to have to do what we know to do semper fi trent lamalino says we need to we need to lead a movement to stop giving money companies that are crooked to companies that are crooked list of companies that are anti-america and lead a huge exodus boycott with money not tweets.

Yep. Yeah, absolutely. Let's see. John does has greetings as a Muslim. I'm really happy to see 17 to 30% of us voted Trump, but I think Trump should have courted us with his Mideast peace policy. We heavily voted based on foreign policy. And I wish we would wake up. Happy Thanksgiving.

Wow. That's interesting. Yeah. The foreign policy was big for me, too. Yeah. And it's a high number of Muslims. And we know the good news. The good news now for the neocons and the warmongers is that with Joe Biden in place, rest assured, they'll be bombing kids in no time. But we'll be nice about it.

Yeah. But he'll smile and wink at you and say come on man and you'll go i can't be mad at you joe grandpa joe can i play with your leg hairs i know right ginger prime says hey tim i'm another fence sitter and love the content and honestly that being said i listen to will of the people every day and want to know when we can get a video and professional version of words in a book that song hits my heart and soul i guess if uh at a certain point if i so so right now my main channel my first channel ever put together was youtube.com slash timcast i do one segment but it's the other channel where i do five if i wind that down to just one in the morning and then one at four i'll have tons of time to i could record a whole album in a week

because i'm like nishra uh is the one who produced the song and did all the arrangement and everything. So I've got like a thousand. I got some really simple poppy ones that people seem to like. They're really just simple pop rock. Maybe like Indie ish. Nine tailed Fox 1000 says Tim. I am totally convinced the Dems stole the election and if trump told the american people to take up arms in his name i would happily do so that is a very

similar comment that reuters published and i think it freaks me out i don't like i don't like the idea but uh i don't know what to say about it like what do you do yeah i i i have no idea that sentiment won't go away it won't go away i don't think Trump is going to ask anybody to do that. I'm pretty sure he's going to fight it as far as he can in the courts, and then that'll be that. Shadow government. I don't know. Come on. I mean, something's going to happen.

It's not going to be normal. That's the easiest way to put it. Whatever happens, we're not going back to the normal way things used to be. There's no such thing. It's not going to happen. Joe Radler says, Tim, sell copies of those paintings of YouTubers you have

on your studio walls. Of YouTubers? Can you put, switch to Ian's camera? Yeah, here. Even though he's not here? So the art you see on the screen is from Gprime85

on Twitter and Instagram. It's George Alexopoulos. We had him on the show last week. But it's not of YouTubers. It's just creepy, creepy art. It's really good.'s a joe biden eating a small child and he has a bunch of them and uh you can check him out at g prime 85 on instagram to see all the other art he has but uh i think i don't know if he sells them but i i hit him up and said dude we gotta get you know full frame

of these comics because they're amazing comics we have one with uh trump joe uh joe rogan and joe biden captain spent says we need to start protesting outside police departments asking them not to enforce lockdowns we must protect our liberty and rights to assemble well protest as you see fit i think the most powerful protest non-violent civil disobedience is to just go about your life go about your life living well is the best revenge but it's like just go have see your family i'd be safe you know but uh i can't believe they're like don't go to christmas and don't go to thanksgiving it's like i think people love their families more than they're worried about getting sick yeah i you know and and i think the bigger issue is that when gavin newsom and other democrats flaunt the rule like just disobey their own rules

nobody believes it's serious. And it's their fault. They extinguish all credibility with their Corona posture when they accepted and encouraged the protests and the riots this summer. And this public health officials came out and said racism is more of a public health issue than Corona. Get out there and protest everybody. That was the end of trust, period. If the financial crisis wasn't bad enough in 2008 and 2009, where nobody got any penalties for the fleecing of the American economy and the stripping of the treasury, then this is

the final straw. This disconnect between public statement and policy and then the private behavior of the officials who are supposed to enact it and then and then just the public health officials saying racism is a more important issue think about it this way the left clearly already doesn't believe there's a rule of law they say we're locked down don't do these things they go out and do it anyway they go riot and they go protest yeah so the the fact that they're rioting shows they don't care they don't care then for the right they being told, we're going to destroy your businesses, your livelihoods. It's going to take away your jobs.

And you can clearly see there's no rule of law because the left is smashing everything up. That's amazing to me. It's almost like we're in, you know, I wonder if we're in a simulation and they're doing an experiment to see at what point conservatives just like lean back and then like, and just go back to work. Here's what's amazing. You actually have people rioting being cut loose the da's let them go and then conservatives can watch that happen and be like but i'm not going to sell my t-shirts at my clothing store it's like the the levels of willingness to break the law on the left are just like off the charts and conservatives are all the way at the bottom okay but it's important to remember that those antifa activists and protesters and rioters that deliberately go out and put themselves they know their coach that they can get arrested and that

they have a defense fund and they have people that are getting them out on bail there's a system that facilitates that so it's not necessarily about like how bold are we it's is there an ecosystem with appointed judges and da's and the whole thing where they they know that they're going to be okay sure but that imagine if the the scale was they would sell donuts at a donut shop versus a conservative selling donuts in a donut shop that's when you're equal yeah and them being like i know i can get away with it you'd be like well they're just selling donuts no they've stepped it up to a they've turned the knob up to 11 yeah so they know they can get away with not just breaking covid lockdown but literally burning down buildings okay they can't really get away

with that they are getting charged and arrested for that but they can be part they can partake in these riots and likely will get away with it and then on the right they're like i know that if i open my store they will throw the book at me and there's something i can do about it yeah unless there was enough of us. If we had like a day. What is the opposite of a strike? That's what we need. Wow.

We need the opposite of a strike. A work in. I have come up with a brilliant idea. A national work in day. I love it. And the opposite of a strike, the anti-strike. An anti-strike. Yeah.

Everybody go to work. Yeah. Go to restaurants. Go to work. Go to the go to work go to the gym go see your family get outside go to church yeah absolutely go to church just do it we would overwhelm the system there's no way they would be able to enforce it and then we could have that's the point of non-violence of disobedience yeah let's do it let's do it the anti-strike well you gotta someone's gotta organize it so you know that's what that's what the right lacks organizational

power the left has it in spades. Tom Meese says, I might be wrong, but Trump is treading water. Biden will get wrecked if he eventually or actually wins. What do you mean by that? Like, Trump is just treading water? Like, he's not trying hard enough? Like, he could do more? Or he's struggling to stay afloat?

Maybe he's saying that he thinks Trump is just biding his time because he knows he's going to be victorious is that right yeah i don't want to i don't either but there there is a belief that trump uh i've said this before it seems like trump's buying time like a lot of these lawsuits seem aimless like he's just buying time for some reason no idea uh it could be that they're just trying to slow things down and slowly wind things down so that his supporters calm down and then get past it if they announced like the election boom one day and then trump conceded people would be would go nuts so it's like everything's winding down really slowly to keep the temperature down i tell you this if trump does end up conceding at some point it's going to be on like a friday at midnight he's going to

tweet it tweet something out then everyone's already in bed it's a it's a weekend they wake up on saturday they don't pay attention to the news and then it'll be like oh yeah trump conceded last week they'll be like oh really they always do like that they always make big announcements that's when ruth bader ginsburg died yeah yeah died yeah but also they announced joe biden on saturday saturday uh what saturday afternoon yeah so it's a weekend people aren't paying Yeah. Yeah. Died. Yeah. But also they announced Joe Biden on Saturday. Saturday. What? Saturday afternoon. Yeah.

So it's a weekend. People aren't paying attention to the news. And then they're like, oh, here it is. We announce it. Oh, yeah. So, you know. Let's see. Joshua Chirkinski says, if you want to know more about Operation Warp Speed, you should reach out to Jose Arrieta, former CIO of HHS and led data team on COVID task force.

He's absolutely brilliant. And he has been asked by several news outlets for interviews cool cool spork witch says it's not a conspiracy the left is promoting pedos big story with asda having to take down material promoting love knows no age limit and other pro you know pedo propaganda that is not an isolated incident it is found throughout social justice like i mentioned i think it was i think it was snapchat i could be wrong you know don't sue me snapchat but there was a filter it said love knows no age and that's weird very weird matt morgan says combat vet here

after seeing afghanistan i hope we can avoid armed conflict but not at the expense of our rights and constitution thank you slash lydia for giving us politically homeless a voice much love yeah jolt stein says biden at all are being super smug about everything you think behind closed doors they're a bit worried about the situation probably some clenched sphincters hoping trump concedes ernesto yamena says did tim not do his afternoon shows it is correct i did not do them and I won't be doing them tomorrow either. And then we're going to sort through how things are going to flow out in the future because we got this new skate park built and definitely want to have events. We have a bunch of stuff ready for cultural stuff. I'll put it this way.

You know what I think is not necessarily helping? Sitting down and saying like did you see this thing today how dumb was that because at a certain point people are like i feel this way i'm like how many times have i said oh they're riding again and getting away with it instead of doing something that makes a difference so i'm not i'm not a protest organizer but we're going to put on events yeah and we're going to help build culture, generate culture, art. So, you know, one of the biggest problems, the modern, the new right has terrible art, but the right has always had terrible art. Here's the greatest advantage conservatives have right now. We have a, uh, we, a general

agreement on fundamental principles in freedom of speech and individual liberty and, you know, the foundation of this country, the constitution, et cetera. So even though I am left-leaning independent, left on a lot of economic policy issues and pro-choice and stuff like that, I agree more on a ton of issues that are fundamental to the existence of this country with conservatives. And now people like me and other artists are now finding themselves being, you know, on the right or being told they are even if they don't agree with the right on every on every issue and now the right is starting to get cultural victories so trump was a cultural victory it was the meme war all those memes and

jokes and internet culture really helped propel him to victory yeah now you're gonna find you know i did that music video it's really funny because there are a lot of people who hate me who are like this is actually good some people are are saying like, man, I hate this guy, but he kind of pulled it off. A lot of haters saying I expected to be like super cringe, but it's actually kind of good. Agreed. Agreed. People like it. It's interesting that you're talking about doing stuff with the culture right now, because part of the reason I think that Daily Wire moved to Nashville was because they wanted

to expand into the culture. And people like Andrew Klavan, who write novels, people like Sean Parnell, who write novels, they're a big part of the culture war, too. I think that's significant. Hopefully, we get better movies, too. You want to know something crazy? What? There's a pro skater who got asked to promote a brand. And the brand did something critical race theory-ish.

And all of the comments from this person's followers were Trump 2020, MAGA. How funny. and all of the comments from this person's followers were trump 2020 maga and this dude he's like early 20 pro skater was super confused like what's going on like i'm getting flooded with all this maga stuff and then the brand asked him to take it down and he was like i got no idea man he's so super confused so some one of the older guys in the industry who was a trump supporter skateboarder pro skater grows up and now he's like this is why you know trump had to explain to him what was going on so i just think you've got a lot of people who follow skateboarding there's there's a couple people i follow on skateboarding of decent followings and they're hardcore maga skateboarders they're fearless but it's because they've already been canceled for some reason or another they had like you know

their their their sponsorships ended or something so they're just like i'm just gonna say it but i'll tell you this man like there was there's a guy named brandon turner and he's one of the he's he's he's a legend he's a legend in skateboarding when he was i think he was 18 he did a trick called a switch hard flip down something called the carl's bad gap basically means he jumped over this really big thing it's like jumping down a flight of stairs doing an extremely hard trick and it was a big deal when he did it the dude's 38 right now and did one of the most mind-blowing tricks again a switch hard flip that's what it's called and he did it down something a massive set of uh these huge four stairs but they're like it's ridiculously big they're super long it's called. And he did it down something, a massive set of these huge four stairs.

But they're like, it's ridiculously big. They're super long. It's not really stairs. It's called the Wallenberg Gap. And the dude's almost 40. So anyway, I forgot where I was going with it. I had to bring it up, though, because it's like, I forgot my point. My point was typically that you don't have high profile individuals.

You don't have people who are making content that goes viral in cultural issues like with popular music and with skateboarding who are coming out and being straight up pro Trump. Right. Right. Well, we're looking at creating children's cartoons, actually, like one to three minute cartoons. Didn't Lauren Southern make a children's book? I have no idea. I think she did. Did she?

Maybe I'm thinking of somebody else. You're hallucinating. We're looking at that. We're looking at other ways to influence culture like that and to spread the values out there in the world today for sure. Kids. Yeah. And Tim, you know, you're talking about getting out of politics and focused on making change and adding to culture and being doing something fun and interesting that that's what i decided to do two years ago and i spend most of my time engaged with the guys

in the liminal order and just doing our programming there and actually being a force for good and actually being a force for positive change rather than just droning on no offense to me or to you or to any of us about politics all day long. You said it best, really. How many more times can I say, hey, the Democrats did this and it's wrong? Stupid. I know. So at a certain point, it's like, I'm going to keep doing it, but we're going to make

space to be like, we're going to be hanging out. Someone's going to roll up and I'm going to be like, dude, if you want this new set of wheels, I got to see some flip and flip out, man. I want to see Nolly flip backside tail slide. I'll tell you what. I'll throw in some bone Swiss if you big spin out. Most people probably have no idea what you just said. Your mom's a big spin out.

I have no idea what Tim just said. But the point is, imagine they do that and we got a Gadsden flag on the wall. Right. There's a really good skateboarder named Cody McIntyre. He's one of the craziest tricks I've ever seen on a mini ramp you're not going to understand any word a lot of you might understand this if you skate this dude i watch this video on instagram he does a forward flip blunt kick flip out i i but he's got don't tread on me on his mini ramp that's a product placement for conservative ideas not even just freedom i know right it's like wow the the don't tread on me flag is like the real anti-fascist statement right yep the og well what about what about this one join or die

that's the opposite uh lauren lauren southern did write a children's book henry the sheepdog and the wolf of mossville oh there is a good there is write a children's book, Henry the Sheepdog and the Wolf of Mossville. There is a good children's book out there. Let me remember the name. My Red Hat. Look that up. My Red Hat was written by a MAGA aware gentleman for young children to learn the stories of bullying and discrimination, et cetera. My Red Hat. You know what's a really good example of why this needs to happen.

Because Casey Neistat, I think he's a cool dude. I've known him for quite a bit. I think he's all right, but he endorsed Hillary Clinton. And I think he didn't know anything about Hillary Clinton. And he actually said he knew the Trump family, that they were very nice. But he made a video endorsing Hillary Clinton and later on came to regret it. Most people who are producing cultural content, vlogsing don't know anything about what's going on in the world and so somebody comes along and says we're a super pack we'll pay you x amount of dollars to promote our candidate they go oh that sounds good to me

and they don't know anything about it but i tell you what you come to me and say michael blumberg wants to run he's going to pay you a million bucks to do a video for him. I'm going to be like, never going to happen. I'll tell you what, you give me no stipulations as to what the video is about. I'll make a video about Michael Bloomberg and then I'll make an hour long documentary about how awful he is, you know, but they wouldn't do it.

They're like, no, no, promote him, endorse him. It's never going to happen. That being said, I do videos on YouTube and then his videos get placed on my videos by YouTube. But that's great. That's great. I do a video saying and then his videos get placed on my videos by YouTube. But that's great. That's great. I do a video saying, here's why Michael Bloomberg is awful. And then it's like the video that pops up, the advertisement I get paid is him being like, I'm Michael Bloomberg.

Vote for me. And then it's like the video stops. Here's why Michael Bloomberg is awful. That's awesome. So it's like you're getting corrected. So anyway, here's why Michael Bloomberg sucks. He's paying you to say it. Exactly. Just like that whole Count Dankula thing that just Yes. He's paying you to say it. Exactly.

Just like that whole Count Dankula thing that just played out. Did you see that? No. Which one? Count Dankula was being sued for libel or defamation. You mean Sargon? Oh, Sargon. Was it Sargon?

Sargon got sued for a copyright infringement. Oh. No. No, there was just a libel case that was just settled. And some chick sued him him was going ape about it uh they they just kept going the judge kept saying don't do it they finally got i think you're talking about sargon am i did i get this confused yeah yeah oh okay yeah so uh sargon of akkad well let me start over because it starts with akila akila filmed what was going on on

election night 2016 and so then sargon took segments of her full full video and then titled it sjw levels of awareness she then tried getting it taken down for copyright youtube did sargon challenged it saying it's it's fair use it's commentary a bunch of people told sargon he was wrong they said dude you just uploaded straight clips you didn't comment on it at all you just showed the clips sargon was really smart you did he said nothing he said don't worry about it and so when she finally sued to get taken down he knew what he was talking about the title of the video was commentary and criticism you can show someone's video raw as it is on their channel and then put the title and it is fair use by showing her video and titling it sjw's level sjw levels of awareness

it was apparent to everybody the judge even akilah's own lawyers who for some reason she she changed lawyers i can only imagine it's because they knew you're gonna lose but they even said in their like one of their initial filings that the only reason he uploaded the video was to make fun of or like disparage and so the judge was like you acknowledge this was criticism like that's quintessential fair use she decided to go for it anyway and what they think it was uh what is it called ad terrorum i think it's it is i think so it's when you sue someone knowing that they can't fight back, so they're going to cave and give you whatever you want. Yeah, to terror.

Yeah. And so that's what someone had referred to it as. But Sargon raised money, defended himself, because he knew he was going to win. And she sent him an email. I could be wrong about this, but I believe she sent an email saying, like, they wanted to settle for 40 grand. And so he just was like, no, thank you.

He just won. He just won. He just won. He didn't just win, but he won his court fees. Not only did he win the case, it is fair use. He then sued for court fees to be paid back because she was on Twitter gloating that she was trying to take him for all he's worth and like, you know, bankrupt him and stuff and mocking his family. And so I guess the judge said this is not a good faith copyright suit this was meant to drum up you know celebrity or something like that i think that's what happened and then she just recently paid him out yeah but she raised all the money on gofundme exactly and and and i'll say this my understanding of what she wrote

she like it was it was it was libelous it was like intense lying about the judge but you know what man the right doesn't start the fights the proud boys don't go out and start the fights the proud the proud boys will go to a rally and when antifa shows up the fight starts in that context the proud boys might start a fight i'm like i don't know you know it's sargon's business but she wrote this go fund me raising money with lies. And that's fraud. Yeah. This seemed to have been resolved, at least the legal fees resolved recently by her doing a GoFundMe, which means her fans are paying Sargon.

And I just read about that today, which is what I meant when you brought up Sargon earlier. I was like, oh, yeah, that thing that just happened in the news. So you threw me for a loop there. But we're on point now. We got too many super chats coming in i'm trying to blazing yeah trying to reason as we can ben jordan says love will of the people tim can't stop listening to it if you haven't check out will of the people you can just search timcast will of the people and you can listen if you haven't and uh share it because i mean that's like i'm not i'm i'm gonna do maybe a marketing thing to boost the

song just because i can and i think it'd be fun uh why not but uh it's it's it's going through the process to go up on spotify and and other like you know amazon stuff so that'll happen at some point but uh you can check it out and you know what we'll do at the end of the show we'll just we'll play it for y'all so you can you can watch it here and then you know check it out later let's see. Waffle Sensei says, The Timcast IRL should naturally fill some of the void left from the Joe Rogan experience. Mankind needs shows like these.

Thank you for your voluntary service to talking about your feelings on the internet and happy Thanksgiving. Well, thank you. Happy Thanksgiving to you too, sir. Yeah, for sure. Joe's not going anywhere. He's doing a show. It's on Spotify. So just you can watch, sir. Yeah, for sure. Joe's not going anywhere. He's doing a show. It's on Spotify. So just watch the videos.

Yeah. So I think there's going to be he's still doing clips. They're still going to be on YouTube. So you're all you're still going to see his content. But, you know, whatever. Matthew Spriggs says Alex Jones bless Cenk Cenk Uygur and Steven Crowder. We would break the Internet. Yeah, it wouldn't work. But you know, the thing is, Cenk wouldn't do it.

That's the problem it's like if we got a high profile leftist and alex jones it would be one of the biggest political podcasts ever the leftists just never want to do it i asked i think five i think five leftists to come on with alex jones they all said no they know all about well i'm sorry a couple just ignored me outright and then you know whatever after the fact issued a comment saying covid i can't do it let's see ryu kirito says apparently andrew jackson made his own party when the presidency was allegedly stolen from him and they voted democrat for the next 100 years the jacksonian democrats i think trump may do the same. I don't see how I think Trump took over the GOP

and I don't see how Republicans move on. They like they can't just people are going to be are pissed. They're saying don't vote Republican because the GOP abandoned Trump. Jimmy Rustler says, Tim, have you caught wind of the black rifle coffee s show true color is being revealed do you see this with black rifle it has something to do with kyle rittenhouse in support of him or not yes well so they i kind of feel like you just break a pen i did i kind of feel like black rifles too scared to say they support Kyle Rittenhouse. Yeah. Really? Yeah.

I disagree. Why? What do you mean? I don't think it's good policy. I'm going to say my piece. This is my hill to die on, okay? I don't think it's good policy for any company to give any form of support for anyone like Kyle Rittenhouse, whether you like him or not.

And I'm going to get crucified for this. And by like, you mean someone who is on trial for murder? Someone who's on trial someone who's yeah no i understand that someone who's a hot potato why would you say they said they don't want to be seen as profiting off of that whole situation that's fair i respect that 100 but i think what's happening is people expect them to say of course we support him he was defending himself right and i don't i don't they're like we don't want to say that it's gonna you know it's gonna be bad for us adjust your expectations yeah it's gonna look like they're trying to make money off of it

that's what that's what that's that's basically what happened the media put up some fake news or whatever fake news logan matthews says tom clancy should sue the pandemic for plagiarism division and division two are like a prophetic vision of 2020 and the fallout after also plagiarism is a funny looking word just notice that while you were typing it out it happens to us words are cool the the game's not uh identical utopia is the creepy show because they filmed that pre-covid utopia was filmed before covid happened and it is a show about a wealthy sjw who fakes a pandemic so the fda forces through a vaccine at the last minute at the demand of the people and then it sterilizes i want to read the book forces through a vaccine at the last minute at the demand of the people, and then it sterilizes everybody. I want to read the book or see the British version. The original British version is creepy and weird. It has great music and great cinematography.

I heard it's better. Yeah, I got to watch it. So at the end of this SJW one, is there one class of people that is spared from the disease that comes through the vaccine that sterilizes folks. I don't think so. Because in the original one, the guy plans to erase everybody except his particular genetic line. Well, we only watched the first season. I see.

It wasn't mentioned yet. Well, so the British one has two seasons. Yeah. And the U.S. one has the one season right now that just came out. So good. Watch the British one. I got to say, I didn't. I'm not a fan of the uh i'm it's interesting to watch because of the parallels but it's kind of not a good show

i really like i imagine that sounds stupid yeah the other one is right up your alley dude graphic art artists and novels or graphic novels and like hidden messages and like you know secret internet chat rooms yeah yeah that wasn't this, this newer version as well. I kind of like that. I like some of the tests. All right. Secret internet chat. Here's, here's, here's the, here's the perfect super chat.

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everywhere at Jack Murphy live I planned it that way it worked out it's easy to find me do it safety off says bro if you follow through with events slash culture you jack and team could literally be the catalyst to save this nation we all need guidance on how to organize and be heard as high levels are being excommunicated from society oh we're gonna have comedy shows here we're gonna film them and the jokes are gonna be uh gonna be offensive comedy it's like i was watching family guy the other day probably the most racist thing i have seen in a very long time was their episode where they where the griffins are like running from the cops and

so they go to china they go to chinatown and then it was like the whole episode was just like making fun of asian people and i'm like i thought it was funny but it was like wow it was crazy like watching the whole episode like there's one part where it's like you're watching cbs chinatown and the cbs ice turns and slants oh gosh that was wow like that's airing on tv right now in these in these days you know yeah south park gets a pass on that too you know shitty walk but they they uh south park lost their their teeth a while ago you think so i thought i thought last season was pretty good they it seems like they're trying not to not to push too hard like they're they're making fun of pc principal but they're not making fun of him enough

like they're not really making fun of him so it's's like the PC babies. It's kind of like, what's the joke? I don't know. I guess. Yeah. I guess. They used to be totally gruesome. Like the episode where the kid eats his own parents. Scott Tenorman.

Yeah, Scott Tenorman. There's a lot of good episodes. Yeah. Southwark's got a storied history and great episodes, though. 100%. Yeah. I wonder if at a certain point they're phoning it in. I mean, they're not putting out any new material right now.

This is the time where they usually do i was waiting for their new season they put out one episode one special yeah with randy having sex with the bat in china with mickey with mickey mouse him and mickey mouse gangbanging doing oh can i say that a little late in the show maybe happy thanksgiving everybody a little late in the show hope everyone's gone to bed. All the kids are gone to bed. Can I say that? Oh, you already did. Whatever.

Dunsky. So we got Anton Maxson says, Before COVID, I was an aspiring actor attending the NY Performing Arts Academy. I'm working on many scripts. Now when I write, my emotions take over and it transforms into this weird abstract thing. May I send you first edits via Wix?

I like your input. Yes, that is the appropriate place to send stuff let's see brian brown says i have been watching your other channels for a while but first time watching a stream love your content sincerely pdx trump supporter appreciate it stay safe out there pdx doobie mcnasty says jack mf murphy what's up doobie vasht 1985 says the division is based off of operation dark winter look it up wait wait what i don't know is that we gotta look it up operation dark winter sorry my phone died i can't look it up you gotta look at joe biden said there was going to be a dark winter dark winter he did indeed long winter what is operation dark winter i'm very curious now i'm sorry alexa my phone died stop we actually have one you're gonna oh sorry yeah you're gonna turn around uh what is operation operate well this is real operation dark winter

wait what let me pull this up all right we're gonna look at this we're gonna learn about this real fast before we sign off so hold the division is about a pandemic destroying New York, and then you go into it to, like, fix everything. Operation Dark Winter was the codename for a senior level bioterror attack simulation conducted on June 22nd and 23rd, 2001. Before 9-11. It was designed to carry out a mock version of a covert and widespread smallpox attack on the U.S. Tara O'Toole and Thomas Inglesby of the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Biodefense Strategies, Center for Strategic and International Studies, and Randy Larson and Mark Demir of Analytic

Services were the principal designers, authors, and controllers of the Dark Winter Project. They say, Dark winter was focused on evaluating the inadequacies of a national emergency response during the use of a biological weapon against the american populace the exercise was intended to establish preventative measures and response strategies by increasing governmental and public awareness of the magnitude and potential of such a threat posed by about biological weapons and then basically in the game some dude steals it some virus releases it and then the government declares article you know the president acts directive 51 which gives him total

control and then you come in to try and uh fix everything but let me let me let me let me see some more quick that would have been a good thing for trump to do had he been a real fascist good opportunity didn't do it from healthline the u.s is likely headed for a dark winter there it is what former vice president joe biden stated that we likely we are likely to have a dark winter with covet 19 joe what are you doing he was briefed on that uh that practice direct i wonder if uh joe they were like, say something crazy that will make all the conspiracy theorists go insane. Say it's going to be a dark winter, and they'll look it up, and they'll be like, what's Operation Dark Winter? And then they'll freak out.

There you go, man. Directed 51 coming at you. Just kidding. Who knows? Yeah. Well, anyway, we went a little over today because I don't know, whatever. It was fun. It was fun.

Thanks for hanging out, Joe. Tim, my pleasure. Glad to be here. Anytime. Lids. was fun. It was fun. Thanks for hanging. Tim, my pleasure. Glad to be here. Anytime. Lids. Thank you. We are not having shows. We have no show tomorrow night.

It's Thanksgiving. Hang out with your family and nothing for Black Friday either. So we'll be back the Monday after this weekend. But I'm taking tomorrow off for my show, too, just to have a Thanksgiving to myself. And then I think I should be back by Friday. I might put something out tomorrow. I just depends on, you know, because I don't want to be bored if i'm bored i'm gonna be like there you go do something no i'm probably gonna just keep skating and trying

to get we're we're installing new lights and there's a lot of work that has to go down in the building the new building so you know i think culture is going to be very very important and uh having that space where cool things happen we We want to make younger people feel excited and energized by good ideas. And the way you do that is you create a space where people are comfortable, cool, confident, and these kids aspire to be welcomed and accepted and accomplish these things and stuff like that. So kind of the goal. Indeed. Right on.

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I'm hoping so, yeah. We'll be back into the full swing of things. But the holidays are always so rough to work through because nobody wants to work. Like New Year's is coming. But I wonder what's going to happen now with this lockdown. What are people going to do for New Year's? No New Year's Eve in New York? Watch some YouTubes.

I guess so. No New York Times Square, huh? Yep. I know New York, no, uh, time square. Yup. They'll drop the ball and no one will be there. It's like, it's like a black mirror episode. All right,

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