Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #186 - McConnell BEGS Republicans To ABANDON Trump And Support Biden, w/ Cass Fairbanks
Episode Date: December 16, 2020Tim, Ian, Lydia, and Luke host Cassandra Fairbanks to discuss Mitch McConnell, Julian Assange, the recent election, possible secession and civil war, and ongoing external wars. Support the show (htt...p://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Yesterday, the Electoral College cast their votes and Joe Biden won.
Interestingly, though, many states, seven states, saw the Republican slate of electors
who were not elected to the Electoral College cast procedural votes.
That's the way they framed it.
And they did this because many of them said they wanted to keep Donald Trump's legal challenges
active.
We've got Mo Brooks.
We got a couple of the Republicans saying they are going to dispute Joe Biden's electoral votes come January 6th. Now, the mainstream media and
many left leaning organizations, media organizations are saying it's over. It ended.
Betfair paid out their bets. Much Trump supporters are really angry about that.
And even Newsmax, Mitch McConnell, they've both said it's over. Joe Biden won, which is weird because
January 6 hasn't happened yet. The votes haven't actually been counted. And we're actually being
told by members of Congress they are going to dispute this. Not that I think it's going to
play out well. Interestingly, though, Mitch McConnell is now essentially begging Republicans
not to object. So Mitch McConnell never really had Trump's best interests
at heart. And that's obvious because he's just another political establishment crony.
And I'm pretty sure Trump supporters are going to go nuts on him. So we'll talk about this.
We've got some information pertaining to Michigan. They're issuing some subpoenas.
Maybe there will be something coming out of these investigations. We'll see how that plays out. We've
got a bunch of other stories. We're talking a bit about Julian Assange as well.
We're hanging out with Cassandra Fairbanks.
How's it going, Cassandra?
Do you want to just like briefly explain who you are?
I am a reporter for Gateway Pundit.
I am also a really big supporter of WikiLeaks and Julian Assange.
And yeah.
And there's news today, right?
Yes.
Julian Assange has formally requested a pardon from President Donald Trump.
Is he going to get it?
I don't know. I hope so.
We're also hanging out with Luke Rutkowski, of course, who lives in my parking lot now.
Yeah. What's the name of that uncle that lives in the RV in the National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation movie?
I don't know.
How old are you?
He's that guy.
Well, that guy.
Eddie.
I am Uncle Eddie.
He is my spirit animal, but I also run the YouTube channel We Are Change.
Thanks for having me.
What about the guy from Napoleon Dynamite?
He's got his uncle.
He's got the RV.
Is that his name?
It's always Uncle Rico.
Uncle Rico.
That's great.
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let's first just read a bit of this first story so we can get to
ragging on Republicans from the Daily Mail. Forget Trump and move on. Mitch McConnell pleads with his
senators not to force ugly vote in Congress on Joe Biden's Electoral College victory,
warning them that it would split the party despite president's demands for a last ditch
fight to overturn election. They say he said it was a terrible vote because Republicans would ultimately
have to vote it down and would appear like an anti-Trump move. Alabama. Oh, seriously,
don't support Trump because it'll look like we're anti-Trump. Alabama Representative Mo Brooks said
he will formally challenge the Electoral College votes during congressional election certification
on January 6th. He insisted Tuesday that if all legal votes were counted and all illegal votes were thrown out,
Trump would emerge as the real Electoral College winner.
Trump reposted an article Tuesday with Brooks' comments.
A senator would need to join Brooks and others in the House to officially launch
deliberations on an Electoral College vote challenge.
McConnell, for the first time on Tuesday, called Joe Biden the president-elect
following the Electoral College cementing his victory on Monday. The Electoral College has
spoken, McConnell said on the Senate floor. So today I want to congratulate President Elect Joe
Biden. So this is why it matters. You've got a ton of Republicans in the House that are saying
straight up we're going to we're going to challenge. They need a Republican senator to sign
on with them if these. OK, so we have these unofficial electoral votes.
It is what should have been or I'm sorry, what would have been the Republican elector
Slates decided to cast what they called procedural votes in the event that something happens
in these in these elections are overturned.
Then they'll have those votes cast and available for certification. If Mike Pence wants to potentially count those votes, theoretically, I guess he can.
Maybe it'll go to the Supreme Court or they'll probably just throw it in the garbage.
I mean, they're unofficial.
And look, the establishment very much is not in favor of Trump.
But Mike Pence is going to have to choose for himself.
I mean, he's running as well.
If the Senate Republicans vote to and they choose these seven unofficial procedural votes
for some reason, maybe some information comes out and the House chooses the official electoral
college as it stands now, then you've got a disputed election with both chambers disagreeing.
And I don't know how Mike Pence would decide.
But if there's no dispute among any of these votes, then I don't know how Mike Pence would decide. But if there's no dispute among
any of these votes, then I don't see how we get anything other than Joe Biden winning.
So I don't know what you guys think. But I am not surprised Mitch McConnell is basically saying,
don't support Trump in this effort. Just let it go. Joe Biden won. What do you think? I mean,
Cassandra, you're a Trump supporter, yeah? Yeah. Well, there is precedent for those procedural votes going in in 1960 when John F. Kennedy was running.
They did a procedural vote away from the Democratic slate in Hawaii, I believe.
And 11 days after the certification, they ended up getting it to Kennedy.
This was the Republicans claimed they won.
They're like, we won certifications over.
Bam.
They stamped the official certified vote and sent the Republican votes to Congress while legal challenges were still pending.
A recount 11 days later found actually you didn't win.
So they had to then take the other procedural votes and then certify them. Richard Nixon got both votes, both stamped with the governor's approval.
And he said, we're going to count the Democrat ones because of what happened.
So that's possible. It could happen right now. And it's really funny. I actually did a video
the other day talking about this and Facebook. I got one of those fake news flags saying my but that so i like i basically
said in the beginning of my video these votes right now they're unofficial they're not from
the you know the governor but 1960 years would happen so look my personal opinions i don't think
it's going to work i think they'll likely be thrown out and it was probably you know a symbolic vote
maybe mike pence says these are not officially certified i'm not going to count them they
labeled it fake news actually i got it lifted it lifted, though. I emailed saying like,
what was wrong about anything I said? And they're like, oh, well, I guess you're right. And they
removed it. But I bring that up because it's really weird. It literally happened. Like the
so you have these different electors and people voted for them. The Democrat electors were the
ones who were chosen to go to state house and cast votes. But the Republican electors who didn't, I guess they're arguing that they're not electors,
they're electoral candidates.
That's what they claimed on mine.
Right, right, right.
Speaking, speaking, it's like a semantic argument.
You know what we mean.
Fine.
Electoral candidates for the Republican cast a procedural vote.
So it's on record.
And they're trying to shove it under the rug.
It's not happening.
But even now, if Mitch McConnell's on board, Newsmax is saying it, Betfair, this is really
funny. Betfair closed the betting and paid out everybody who bet on Joe Biden, even though
January 6th is the official constitutional day. And so people this is this interesting. Betfair
said that in the event Trump does somehow become president, they'll revisit this.
So now Trump supporters saying Betfair just placed a billion dollar bet that Joe Biden is does have it.
I think it's a fair bet, to be honest.
But it is kind of interesting that they're, you know, willing to actually stake that considering January.
I think they would have just waited.
It would be so much easier just a couple weeks.
Just don't even like it's a couple weeks back.
It's a couple weeks.
So or you could wait till Inauguration Day.
Is it because they wanted to flesh out their books before the turn of the year?
Yeah, could be.
Yep.
Close out the books before the year's over.
How interesting would that be if, like, come January 6th, something happens?
Not only that, what if, you know, so Joe Biden was coughing, right?
Everybody saw Joe Biden coughing and they were like, he's got he's got COVID, right?
What if the next president is Kamala Harris?
And Betfair is just like, oh, no, everybody bet wrong.
And then they got to give it to all the Kamala people.
Well, the Senate minority leader comments are pretty interesting.
Chuck Schumer said that the Republicans should follow McConnell's lead and acknowledge that
Joe Biden will be the next president of the United States.
And very interestingly, we also have to acknowledge Susan Collins and Mitt Romney
are congratulating Joe Biden for his presidency.
Mitt Romney?
Yes.
No.
I know, right?
Mitt Romney is the bastion of traditional conservatism in this country.
Yeah, that's true.
Mitt Romney.
That's why I don't think it's going to happen. Look,
you've got, who did you say, Murkowski and
No, Susan Collins
and Mitt Romney. Well, Murkowski
is probably going to be on board with them as well.
So what happens if these procedural
votes do somehow make it to
Congress? You've got
right there, these Republicans are going to be like,
nah, nah, it's Biden.
The GOP is weak.
There's a GOP? It still exists?
I had no idea.
Well, I think this is their end.
Mitch McConnell just stood up and said,
listen, if you're a Trump supporter who
helped Republicans get elected, I have a knife.
Just turn around and let me pull out your back.
And that's exactly what Mitch McConnell did.
Because people, look,
at the very least, they're just saying, please fight for us like we fought for you.
OK, maybe Trump's not going to win. Maybe, you know, that's how many of them feel.
But at least give people the courtesy of saying, if we're going to turn out for you, get you guys elected.
You can do you can you can fight to the bitter end for Trump.
There's the constitutional procedures. They can challenge the votes.
They can lose and they can say look we tried we did everything no he's already like bye-bye and the best part is a couple weeks out from the
georgia runoffs how many people now are going to be like sacrifice senate yeah don't let republicans
win i mean i've been debating this internally for some time now because i you know writing for
gateway and stuff it's like i've had a lot of pressure to write pro, you know, pro Georgia articles, like being like, hey, go vote.
But I don't want to.
I don't.
I'm like, what is the GOP done for us?
Like, why should I do anything for them?
I'm not writing any of this.
I don't care.
But you're not a Republican, right?
No.
Yeah.
I'm a Trump supporter.
I am. I am not a Republican. I voted for Trump. I support him in a bunch of some of the most
important things any president has done, especially in my lifetime, trying to get our
troops out of the Middle East. Not perfect. I know, Ian, drone strikes and all that stuff.
You've read my mind, Sam. Better than Joe Biden. But I don't care. That's a low bar, though. That's
a very low bar. If you're making arguments saying better than Joe Biden, that's like saying better than like...
I mean, yeah, but Kamala Harris is under that bar.
Scraping your private parts on.
Family-friendly show.
We're not going to go in there.
But I'm thinking of this one meme that I just saw recently.
And it's a Rick and Morty meme.
And Rick is looking at a robot.
The robot is looking at him and is saying, what is my purpose?
The robot is the GOP. And then Rick looks at him and he says, your only purpose is to sell red hats. That's it.
You sell red hats.
And there's a point to be made there. There's a total fracture of the right that, you know,
hasn't been effective. And some people say hasn't even been there and hasn't really changed things
that much at all.
You know, Republicans are really good
at the Republican politicians rolling over and exposing their soft underbelly to Democrats.
So when we had Michael Malice in here with Jones, he brought up a really, really, really interesting
point. He said Obama wanted Obama got this with Obamacare, the individual mandate, forcing people
by law to buy health insurance. Otherwise, you get a fine.
He said, OK, where's the where's the right? Where's the Republican saying, OK, then everyone
has to buy a gun, too. That's the compromise. If you want universal, everyone is by mandate has to
buy health insurance. Well, Republicans say everybody has to buy a gun because gun ownership
is a big conservative. No, Republicans never do anything like this. Republicans sit back and
complain the Democrats did something and then eventually just give
into the Democrats.
They everybody says this, and I know it's a cliche at this point, but the Republican
Party is just the Democrat Party of five years ago.
All they're doing is supporting things that the Democrats supported five years ago.
They're just behind in five years.
They're going to be like, hey, you want to go to our republican drag queen story hour yeah isn't
that already happening now kind of yeah they're they're they're they're going to 100 they're
gonna in five years they're gonna be like we think we need crudder mitch mcconnell well i don't know
if mitch mcconnell still be in in office in five years how old is mitch mcconnell old old he is
indeed turtle old turtle he's gonna be okay so he'll be really old
older than he is now i mean like that that that image that went around of his hands like that i
feel bad you know what i mean like i think it's i think it's messed up when people made fun of him
because he tripped at one time you guys remember that yeah because because what he had polio when
he's a kid or something right something like that i have no idea was it not polio i don't know he
had something so like he's like you know probably his leg and he tripped and everyone's making fun of him like dude i don't
like the guy he never liked the guy but i'm not gonna brag on him or anybody else because they
stumbled and you know that's that's messed up but in five years they're going to be advocating for
universal basic income yeah he's gonna be like i've always been in favor of universal basic income
and all the republicans are going to be like well you know it's something i gotta fight for meanwhile the democrats are in favor of like the you know i
don't even know how far left you go at that point how can you go further yeah i don't know where
they'll manage they'll figure it out just weird the republicans will manage to continue to lose
gracefully yep yeah that's that that's that's that's what we've got so far so what do you guys
think what do you think trump supporters are going to do i mean what are you going to do who are you going
to vote for what's like i don't know i mean everybody's propping up uh dan crenshaw for
2024 and nikki haley i would rather i would vote for a literal communist just to make it all
burned down before i would vote for either of those two neocons
like i would just be like burn it all down go ahead you know alexandria ocasio-cortez or whatever
do your thing burn it down it's like the the the swing the hard swing back and forth left and right
yeah send a message vote for aoc i. I could see him starting a new political party. I actually saw a poll recently
that I think it was something like
79% of Republicans
said they would follow Trump to a new party.
He needs to do it. We need it in this country.
The problem is, if the
left doesn't start their own
progressive party, then it's just going to
split the Republican vote.
But if they
have the people and they have the support
for a progressive party they could easily do like a bernie sanders type party and split the democrats
and then we split the right and then there would be four yeah a populist anti-establishment party
because there definitely seems that there is a political realignment and it's not working out
in anyone's favor it's the establishment taking advantage of that and screwing everyone over and people are realizing it. And that's why when me and Tim were talking about earlier today, we were like, I think there's going to be another major Occupy Wall Street movement, as you autonomous zone in Portland where armed leftist militias have secured like four square blocks or something.
And they've set booby traps.
You guys see this story?
No.
They're running around with like AR-15s.
Yeah, yeah.
These people don't mess around.
I mean, you saw what happened in Chaz when they pumped 300 rounds into that white SUV killing those two teenagers.
Dude, more of that is going to happen.
These people in Portland have taken this space
because there's this house.
They call it like the Red House Occupied Zone
or whatever, Autonomous Zone.
This house was owned by a family
and they're now being evicted
because they couldn't pay their bills.
You know what, man?
I'm not going to defend the state
or the police on this one.
You can't shut people's businesses down
and then the cops come in
and tell people they're not allowed to work and then come back months later back now we're taking
your house it's like nah yeah but didn't that family own another house that they're living in
exactly get three hundred thousand dollars from gofundme that's correct so this is where story
hearts get interesting i think it's really cool they raise the two hundred sixty thousand to pay
for the house right congratulations that's awesome That's awesome. That's organizing.
That's how you help people.
That's how you do it.
But they do own another house not that far away, which is why the occupation is just,
in my opinion, exploitation.
Right.
These people found an opportunity to seize territory and, you know, take space. So I'm not in favor of them using that as an excuse.
But at this point, I don't know, man.
Watching all these cops, you know, enforce these unconstitutional edicts, not even laws, like watching these videos where the cop is like, it's just the law, ma'am,
I have to do it. And they're like, what law? There's no law. It was never passed by anybody.
The governor just told you to do it. You're doing it. And they do. So I'm like, listen,
why should I go and defend these blue cities that voted for this stuff, that agree with this stuff
and are now complaining about it? I mean, i feel for the for the business owners who have you know lost their
businesses who are having their lives destroyed absolutely but they voted for all these people
but so so back to luke's point in this one town in what's washington mossy brook yeah in washington
they the the mayor basically said we are not we are completely in defiance of the covet lockdowns
and everybody can do whatever
they want live their lives like normal and patriot prayer shut up in this big event that's basically
that they're not calling it an autonomous zone but saying that you were exempt from the state's
laws and or i'm sorry not laws edicts and you're going to operate independently essentially this
it's it's similar not the exact same thing but what happens now if the state sends in police to shut it down and start shutting
people's businesses down?
They're not going to support them.
And then what happens when in Washington they see this autonomous zone in Portland or whatever?
Why would they defend the cops shutting down that?
They're going to be like, I don't care.
Leave me alone.
Already on the Donald.win, which is the big Trump supporting Reddit, they're mocking Michigan
police officers because they kept out the electors, the Republican slate from going
into the Capitol building.
So I think it's entirely possible.
We get to a point where you see more cities like this doing more towns like this, doing
this stuff.
When Biden gets elected, he's going to try and say stuff.
And the Republicans are going to, you know, the people, the regular people are going to
be like, nah.
And Antifa is going to be like, why would we intervene?
And the right's going to be like, why would we intervene with them?
We don't live there and we don't have anything to do with them and the way they vote.
So then, essentially, you've got three factions, the establishment political apparatus, the
populist left and the populist right.
And as the saying goes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
If the left and the right aren't interacting in these towns or cities, why would they be
opposed to each other?
Yep.
And a lot of low information voters are about to get a very rude awakening with the corporatist
presidency of Biden that just today announced two major Goldman Sachs executives as part
of his administration.
And if you look at his administration, it's like who's who's of the family friendly show
here of the underworld, of the greasiest, nastiest swamp creatures that could
ever exist that are even more disgusting behind Cassandra's back right there with that cartoon
of Joe Biden eating a little baby. That's somewhat based on reality, but that's a whole
other topic of discussion to talk about here. But we're talking about Goldman Sachs. We're
talking about big tech. We're talking about big banks. We're talking about big corporatist institutions that are at the helm of
major decisions for the United States in the upcoming future. A lot of people are going to
have a very rude awakening to that. And with that, I think there's going to be another spur
of an Occupy Wall Street movement, which I think is really going to be powerful,
really going to be significant. It's something really to look out for.
You got like 100 million people who hate Biden, every Trump voter and half of the Democrats.
It's just that those half hate Trump more. But once Biden is the target, then they're going to
be like, OK, now that we voted for you because we didn't like Trump, we really don't like you, too.
I still can't get past the fact that Biden supposedly got more votes than Obama when
half of the Democrats hate him.
Well, this is the thing.
Everyone we had on the show was biting their tongue and saying,
yeah, I voted for Biden.
It's horrible.
I didn't want to do that. Well, not everybody.
Two people.
Well, that's everyone that I've been around when I was co-hosting for me.
But everyone I talked to has the same sentiment.
You know, they were kind they were
bamboozled they were fooled to believe maybe something but they knew deep down that something
was wrong and i think most of america knows that so we're gonna see that play out in our social
discourse very soon we already have black lives matter tweeting at the biden administration like
hey we were supposed to meet hey guys what's going on here a cop yeah the top prosecutor that
sent innocent people away to jail knowingly knowingly she knew she knew people were innocent
she still made them rot in jail and ruin their lives i mean that is kind of brings me a weird
sense of joy because i'm demented that black lives matter helped get a like i just love it paradoxical man that's the craziest thing
it's like you know what a lot of people we've had on and uh or not even who have had on but like
people who have come here and we've talked when they say they vote for biden i'm like oh yeah why
well you know trump's bad for what what do you do what do you come on come on come on man you can't
you can't like i can sit
here and i can go through everything trump's done in his family and we can talk about the
emoluments clause and his and his resorts and his businesses you can talk about shady business
dealings and all that stuff it doesn't compare to joe biden now if we're gonna have like you know
a turd sandwich versus a giant douche i understand why people might be like i don't know man i voted
for biden but if you're if so these are low information people a lot of these people are young like we had a dude on the other day he's 24 he doesn't know, man. I voted for Biden. But if you're if so, these are low information people.
A lot of these people are young, like we had to do it on the other day is 24.
He doesn't know anything about the Joe Biden administration.
He was like a teenager not paying attention to when Joe Biden and Obama were in and the horrible things they were doing.
So it's like, you know, you know, the left was protesting Obama, right?
With with, you know, Black Lives Matter started under Obama.
Occupy Wall Street was under Obama.
He wasn't like this great left wing leader that they're telling you now. And Joe Biden was a part
of that. It's like you're complaining about systemic racism. Joe Biden's the guy who's been
in office for 47 years who made that stuff and helped facilitate these wars. You don't got a
good reason for voting for the guy. I'm sorry. I understand if you came to me and said I didn't
vote for anybody. I bet. Yeah, I get it. But saying you voted for Biden. Nah, there's no
excuse. You just didn't know what you were talking about but then but you know so if you got 80 million votes i think
people just were told by the media you know orange man bad they believed it well this dominion stuff
there might be merit to that dominion stuff well that report that came out you saw that
which the antrim report that said that votes were intended like there was the machines intentional had intentional errors so you can't you can't just you know the
the traditional culture war arguments don't work on this or they're like oh the guy's biased the
guy the guy who wrote it's biased i'm like i don't know anything about that no i'm sorry i just read
a report i don't know who that guy is well he's biased i don't care investigate the evidence
tell me what happened i don't care about your opinions is. Willie's Bice. I don't care. Investigate the evidence.
Tell me what happened.
I don't care about your opinions on politics.
It's not going to solve anything.
And that's all they have so far.
Not like anything's going to happen from it.
I'm thinking about the inception of Occupy.
And that was basically when Obama bailed out Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.
The big banker bailout in 2008.
Yeah, trillions of dollars inflated.
I don't know how much he inflated the currency.
Well, there was the national public bailouts,
and then there was the secret Federal Reserve bailouts that I talked about with Ben Bernanke,
and he got angry and tried to rip away my microphone.
Wow.
I brought that up.
I was like, what about the secret trillion dollars
that you gave out that no one knows?
And then he got mad and livid and literally had me kicked out.
And they just did it again with the $ trillion that they printed in like yeah well right
now black rock is being financed by the federal reserve all of their losses are being subsidized
by the federal reserve just printing money and giving it to them right now as the average
taxpayer stands by and says you got anything for me And then the big banksters are like, printer, go brr, no more for you. Printer, go
brr. Yeah, printer broke.
Yeah, I love memes. Yeah, the meme is
a bunch of pigs with top
hats, and the guy's cranking the
money printer, and the money's flying out, and he's
like screaming, and his eyes are bleeding or whatever.
And then the capitalist pig is like,
it's literally a picture of a pig with like a cop
hat and a monocle. It's like smiling and taking the money.
And then below it, it's one of those really sad-looking guys.
And he's like, please, I need money for food.
And then there's an angry person holding the thing saying, the printer broke.
Yes.
There's no money for you, but there's money for all the big business.
So money went brr in 08, was it, when they bailed out?
Tremendously.
And then two years later, Occupy struck.
So now we're looking at the printing now.
Maybe in a year or a year and a half, we're going to see another Occupy.
But we're already kind of seeing it with these autonomous zones.
They just haven't been forced into it.
Like people haven't lost their houses.
Well, they're starting to.
People are losing their houses.
Like crazy evictions are coming soon.
Occupy didn't have focus.
It lacked.
A lot of people were down on the Federal Reserve.
Yeah, it got like muddled.
A bunch of weird like social justice people came in and took over and then made it literally
about nothing.
But it should have been about the Federal Reserve and taking back the money supply.
I think it was it was about Wall Street.
It was about occupying Wall Street.
Literally, the plan was to go down to like Wall and Broad in New York and sit there making
demands.
It kind of doesn't make sense because people don't know what Wall Street is.
There was, I remember we were down there and a bunch of the activists got into, you know,
in front of Wall and Broad.
They barricaded it basically, but people eventually found their way in.
And some guy came out and he was like, what are you even protesting?
And they were like, Wall Street.
He's like, what?
Retirement funds?
What are you talking about?
I started laughing.
I thought it was hilarious.
Yeah, because Wall Street's a lot of retirement funds, like 401ks and IRAs and stuff.
People think it's just like Wall Street just is a phrase to represent powerful corporate
interest.
It doesn't necessarily mean it's Wall Street literally is doing.
But that's what the original focus was, that the big banks got these big bailouts and regular
people didn't.
And so that was the issue.
Instead, you know, the older people, the libertarian types, a lot of the Ron Paul types who were there left because guess what? They have jobs. And then the young people who didn't have
jobs were sleeping in the park. And then the kids who had apartments in Brooklyn and their parents
paid for a couple of trust fund kids. I know they're literally trust fund kids not all of them but there were some they had no jobs so they were
like this is my job now I'm gonna come here and organize and that was it Occupy Wall Street became
some weird social justice progressive nonsense that made no made no sense they fought for nothing
they were there to bust up fractional reserve banking and the federal reserve's fiat that's not
that was not a statement from anybody i know unfortunately it
just became about like social justice but that was that was never a stated goal of occupy wall
street but those conversations did happen and there were individuals pushing for that the
original call for occupy was was for uh was for the far left who organized one month before to
organize what it was going to be and what was going to look like and they wanted to occupy
wall street and it was for far left and what it was going to look like. And they wanted to occupy Wall Street.
And it was for far left causes.
There was no official planning organization where they were like the Federal Reserve and
fractional banking or whatever.
Those conversations happened, especially with the Ron Paul people.
So basically what we need to do is tell everybody that Radiohead is going to perform at the
Federal Reserve.
That's what they did.
People don't know.
Dude, I was there when that happened.
And I remember when they announced Radiohead was coming.
I was like, that's not true.
And thousands of people showed up.
And then the guy's like, okay, before they – he's like, we're going to let you know Radiohead's not really playing here.
But now that you're here, we're going to do a general assembly.
It was actually quite brilliant because there's two things.
First, the people who were there – I talked to this young woman.
I was like, so did you come here for Radiohead?
And she goes, oh, well, I came for Occupy.
And I was like, but to like watch Radiohead.
And she goes, yeah.
And I was like, but they're not coming.
She's like, no, but, you know, I'm here for the cause, you know, like not wanting to be, you know, admitting it.
So what they got was they did a general assembly where they got everyone to mind this mindlessly
chant along to what they were saying so one of the one of the things they do at occupy is the
people's mic the far left does is all the time with their protests where at a rally someone will
say mic check and then everyone yells mic check and then they'll say they'll start saying something
and everyone repeats it that actually creates uniformity between people because they're getting
people to chant and say these things over and over again so they have thousands of people show up and they say mic check and then
everyone yells and they go i think i think we should we should be socialists and then everyone
is chanting we should be socialists over and over again so it was effective it was brilliant it was
evil very evil amazing psychological test that's really famous and I can't think of the name of it right now, but I was watching it last night where they show – they put a person in a room with a bunch of actors.
And they have a poster with different lengths of lines, and they'll be like, which two lines are the same?
And the actors all conformally – they all say the wrong one and then they watch and like
the person who's not an actor the first time will be like it's b b and a are the same and then after
a few rounds he'll start going along with what everybody else said and and it's been repeated
like hundreds of times people are and it always they huh they always conform to what monkey monkey see monkey
do well we talked about this there was a name of the test there was a viral video where they they
did this where they had a doctor's office and then it's a bunch of actors sitting down and
the non-actor that the the mark walks in sits down then you hear a beep and then all the actors stand
up for about five seconds and then sit back down so eventually the the mark the not actor is looking around like why is everyone standing
then start standing up and sitting down with them not knowing why just everybody's doing it might
as well do it eventually this one guy was like what what are you guys doing and he's like just
what we're supposed what we're supposed to do it's like okay so here's the best part one by one they
removed the actors and started putting in non-actors until everyone who was there had no idea why they were mindlessly standing up and sitting down when the beeps happened.
What they just do.
And when the guy was like, what are you doing?
He's like, I don't know.
Everyone's just doing it.
It's like, that's not a good reason to do anything.
Yeah, and they did that study with animals.
And there's also the other one where they had a patient execute someone thinking that it was the right thing to do because they had someone
in authority tell him to do it and they were pressing the button that they thought they were
electrocuting someone with higher and higher voltage. You said execute. Well, potato, potato.
Well, essentially, at the end of the study, the guy died. He faked his death. But to the point
where the guy was being told what to do, he just kept clicking the button and then executed the guy so i think it's because it's more important for us to adapt than to be
right uh sociologically historically for us to survive it was more important that we had even
if we were doing what we know is wrong if it's the thing that fits the situation we would do it
and those would be the people that would survive so it's like in our dna to say that the wrong
thing is right if everyone else is doing it.
It's like tribalism.
That's what fractional reserve banks...
I think that's when people see this fiat fake money printing machine going on.
They can't understand that, dude.
Well, let's explain it a little bit.
In 1970, Nixon took us off the gold standard
and instituted fiat currency
so that the Federal Reserve could print as much money as they wanted.
Didn't they seize gold?
They did. Yeah, I remember that.
Yeah, they said, like, said you gotta give your gold up.
And taking it. From what I know
about fractional reserve banking is that if a
bank, a central bank loans $100
to a bank, then the
bank can take 90% of that money
and loan it out. And then the person that receives
that $90
gets to loan out
90% of that. So they can
loan out $81 of that. So they can loan out $81 of that.
So you've created from that initial $100, $171.
That's how the money supply has expanded.
Yeah.
The issue is that if you have,
like the easiest way to explain the issue is.
What happens is, so you've created fake money
and then you request interest back on the fake money.
So it's this giant pyramid scheme.
Right.
And eventually the interest outweighs the money supply,
and then pops.
But the easiest way to explain this,
because people are going to be like,
I have no idea what that means,
is if you have a rare painting,
it's worth a bunch of money.
If all of a sudden there's complete and exact replicas,
like a hundred of them,
like let's say you got a rare Luke Rudkowski original pressing pressing and it's worth just a mere one thousand dollars because luke's
not you know necessarily a famous painter but it's it's it's a unique painting made by him
worth a thousand bucks all of a sudden one day someone opens a vault and there's a thousand of
them well now it's not valuable anymore because there's just tons of them who wants them everybody
wants one gets one and then nobody's trading them anymore so when they just keep mass printing printing money with no standard, with no backing, then the value is just the confidence of individuals in that system.
And what happens is the more they print, the more your values dilute.
It's inflation.
Well, the scary thing is right now, if enough people go to the bank to try to get their money back, they won't be able to.
A lot of people think that if they put their money in the bank,
it's there and it's kept safe for them.
It's not.
But that's true with or without fractional reserve.
Yes.
But that makes the problem a little bit worse.
Yeah.
Runs on the banks are problems.
The fact that they can loan out money that they don't have is crazy.
That you could borrow $100 and then loan out 90 of it, but still keep your $100?
Listen, listen.
So you create $190 from a $100 loan?
Ponzi schemes work really great so long as no one dares screw with your system, to put it mildly.
So the United States, the petrodollar, the fractional reserve system, it's brilliant.
We just got to keep printing the money, and we keep expanding and we'll keep growing and keep spending and
and everything's great unless you know someone like gaddafi comes along and wants to trade and
what is it what do you want to trade gold dinars and then you get a saddam hussein who says maybe
we should entertain the euro and then well then you have no choice but to uh can we drone this guy
you know can we join this guy you know can we
join this guy and uh then what hillary clinton say we came we saw he died and that's uh i'm not
saying that's exactly why you know the official reasons as to why we you know drop bomb drop bombs
on countries is because i guess they're bad people you know they hate our freedom the reason i'm
railing on the fed is because i think if we were going to start a new political party it would be
to repeal the federal reserve act like ron pa I think if we were going to start a new political party, it would be to repeal the Federal Reserve Act.
Like Ron Paul was the closest thing we had to a new political party.
But I don't think that would work at this point.
Oh, gosh.
This is a collapse.
What other unifying message do you think we could have?
Nobody knows about the Federal Reserve or what fractional reserve banking is.
And no one's going to care because it doesn't impact their immediate lives if you if you went on the gold standard right now a dollar
would be worth nothing like a gold flake no going back to the gold standard doesn't make sense i
think that's why you got a crypto proof of work i don't maybe bitcoin i don't know because you
can't print infinite amounts of it there's a finite amount of it in the in the supply i think they're the trump supporters should start a MAGA party or something like that and uh i think they need to
stand on principle and do it no matter what i'm sick and tired of the i'm going to vote for a
republican just because it's better than democrats because then you end up with mitch mcconnell who
at a moment's notice is like trump turn around i got a knife i gotta put here real quick so what's
the point of supporting any of these guys can you start the white party then we can have the red the white and the blue party? That sounds like a terrible idea
We need red white and blue That's going to get clips We're pink
Like orange
Yellow
Pink
No one's white
It's too late
The purple party
You tried
Red states and blue states
Party
That doesn't sound
The way you think it sounds Ian
I'm not racial
I get what you're going for
The MAGA party will be
orange there you go it will be orange yeah that's a good idea orange yep uh i'll start the white
party later yeah that'd be cool if we had red white and blue states those are the colors of
russia in oh yeah and france who are you working for the french well the french french white states
no uh no but i think that, I don't know.
No, you're right.
It's too racist.
I don't care if, look, we've already heard a bunch of Republicans saying sacrifice the Senate.
I shouldn't say, I'm sorry.
Trump supporters are saying sacrifice the Senate.
Lin Wood and Sidney Powell are basically like, don't vote for Republicans.
And it's funny because I'm like, yeah, I don't care either.
We go through this like every election.
And the same thing with Bernie bros.
You know, they they'll come and they'll be like, well, you got to you got to vote for our party because you don't want to vote for the fascists or you don't want to vote for the socialists.
So you got to vote for us.
And then they have no incentive to do what to do what we want.
We had Donald Trump as the president and the Republicans still would not enact the policies that he he he campaigned on.
So why?
Why should we vote for him?
Why should the left vote for the Democrats?
Why should the right vote for the Republicans?
Make them do work.
Have you have you have you been following what's going on with Jimmy Dore?
No.
So Jimmy Dore is awesome.
And Jimmy Dore said that AOC and the other progressive Democrats can force a floor vote
on Medicare for all.
And she's basically said, no, it can't be done.
We don't have the votes and blah, blah, blah.
And so Jimmy's point, and he's getting attacked for it by a bunch of progressives because
he dare question AOC.
He said, if 14 or 15 progressives said, we will not vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker
of the House unless we get a
floor vote on Medicare for all. She will do it because she will lose the speakership and probably
to a Republican. So of course she would. And then the response they give to Jimmy is, but it won't
work. And then we won't get Medicare for all be a waste of time. And it's like, what's the so what?
So what's the worst case scenario? It gets voted down. Then Jimmy said, then we'll know exactly who voted against this. But he brings up a really good point.
After everything AOC has campaigned on, she won't have, she does not have the political will
because she's a careerist who's thinking about herself. That's why she fired the people,
you know, she got rid of some of the people that were around her that helped her get where she was.
She pushed them away. And it's why she walked back from some of her more
extreme positions as soon as she got elected, because she's thinking about the next two years
and her career. That's what she's interested in. And you know what? I understand that. She was a
bartender, right? And I mean, there's no disrespect. I think it's fantastic that she was a bartender
and got elected. And now she's probably sitting there thinking, without this, I'm just, I'm
nothing. And Republicans remind her of that every every single day she likes to complain and say republicans want to hold that
against me well i represent the working class and it says right and if you lose if you fight
the democrats and they ostracize you and you become ineffective and then you don't get re-elected
that's where you're going back to now probably she'll be an organizer she would have a tv show
she would have for sure right something like that she's a rock star now but but whether we like it or not but she wants this
career so it's really fascinating that she was supposed to be this you know bastion of progressivism
and and leftist values democrats she was a card carrying member of the democratic socialist she
gets elected now they're they're actually yelling at jimmy dore because he's like do your job do
what you were vote you are elected for.
And you know what?
I completely agree with him.
I like the idea of Medicare for all.
I don't think it can be done.
I don't think that it'll win.
And I think you can't just snap your fingers and make something like that happen.
But I'd like to see all the Democrats actually stand up and put their money where their mouth is.
I want to know which one of these are just paying lip service to the progressives pretending to care about this.
But you know what?
It's already been done for me.
And I'll tell this to Jimmy because I think, Jimmy, you're great.
You want to know who would vote no on Medicare for all?
It's all of them, including AOC, who won't demand a floor vote.
There you go.
It's all of them.
It's her included.
So when he comes out and he says she should do this, it just goes to show you I don't think it matters who you vote for for the most part, except for Trump.
Trump was like ready to, you know, like figuratively fire off nukes to get what he wanted.
Build the wall, find the money.
He was going to do it.
He fires the Pentagon top brass, wants to get the troops out of Afghanistan because
he's willing to make it happen to keep his promises.
Every almost every single other politician, except for a couple, they're going to do the
same exact thing.
They're going to say, I'll do this for you. Vote for me. And they're going to get in couple, they're going to do the same exact thing. They're going to say, I'll do this for you.
Vote for me.
And they're going to get in and then they're going to do nothing.
That's why we need two new parties.
I'd love to see the progressives start a new party.
Not that I think they're going to get anything done.
But Trump supporters certainly have political willpower.
So even if they lose.
I'd like to see it just so that both parties will be split.
So it's fair.
Yes.
I don't care if the Republicans lose.
And do you?
Yeah. split. So it's fair. Yes. I don't care if the Republicans lose. And do you? Yeah, I don't.
But I also don't want to permanently give power to socialism. It would be ideal if we could have
four parties, populist left, populist right, establishment left, establishment right,
and square off and really see what people want. If we I think if we actually had a populist left
and a populist right party, the Democrats and Republicans would cease to exist in a couple of cycles. And that's why I
want it so bad. That's why Republicans should just do it. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I keep
saying that. I keep saying that Trump supporters should just do it, because when I see Donald
Trump say that he won and I see all of the high profile Trump supporters and even members of
Congress, I'm like, y'all are in the Trump party. Own it. Start a new
party and you can caucus with Republicans or whatever. But like already these populist right
wing individuals are beating Republicans. They just need to do it. You know what? Maybe you'll
lose some elections. But I'll tell you this. Is it worth empowering people like Mitch McConnell,
who's going to be like, give me the moment's notice to kick Trump in the butt. No, just don't do it.
If you're going to lose, if the Democrats are going to win,
then make the Republicans recognize they either support you or you walk.
Good.
Maybe the Democrats are, I think the Democrats are going to win in Georgia.
They do.
I do too.
Trump's not on the ticket.
And the Republicans are dwindling.
The only reason the Republicans gained voters is because of Trump.
And they won't support him.
Some of them will.
But Mitch McConnell won't.
So I think without Trump on the ticket, especially with Mitch McConnell doing this right now,
it's going to be hilarious.
January fits around the corner.
And Mitch McConnell just said, basically, F Trump.
Don't support him at all.
Even in a symbolic gesture.
Even today, Trump retweeted Lin Wood saying that Kemp is going to be arrested.
That's right.
That's not going to drive voters out in Georgia.
No, you know what?
You know what I think?
With Mitch McConnell pleading, he's not just saying, you know, it probably would make sense
if we didn't do this.
He's saying, please, please don't even give a symbolic support for, you know, any kind
of symbol of support for Trump.
How many people are going to be like, OK, Mitch, you're right.
I won't. I also won't give you control of the senate you will not be the majority leader
you'll be the minority leader and you will have no power congratulations you've earned it if we if
people don't stand up now then we're just going to have the same garbage machine churning along
endlessly and you end up with people like aoc who's just a careerist there's there's there's
probably a couple real progressives who got in but but I think most of them are just careerists. Yeah, of course. I mean, that's the
whole business of politics. Sell out to special interests, save your butt, and get as much as you
can for yourself. That's essentially what the system is run on. But I think another factor to
really consider here is the fact that most Americans have a lot more in common than they do,
than they disagree with. And when we look at most of Americans, they are disenfranchised. They're sick of the corruption. They're sick of the special interest.
They are sick of politicians lying to them and taking advantage of them, which they always
freaking do. So I think there's even a probable chance of, as we're seeing this kind of political
realignment, we saw just a few years ago, according to many charts and data, a lot of people being in the moderate kind of realm of politics, we're seeing them kind of
move away from each other. More people are going towards more far left ideas, more people are going
towards more far right ideas. But essentially, when you look at the political spectrum, it's
kind of coming together in a circle, and they might actually meet each other and make a cohesive
force of anti-establishment-ness saying enough is enough.
And if we could put aside our differences and learn to respect each other in a kind of republic system where let be as other peoples want to be left alone, I think there's a possibility that this could essentially happen.
This could be something significant.
You brought this up.
Michael Malice brought this up.
Divorce.
Yes.
What do you think about the idea of like peaceful separation?
I am so pro-divorce.
I want to split it.
I absolutely, I'm 100% down for it.
And I'm so glad that I live in West Virginia, which would be red as hell.
I am, I'm all for it.
It's a second reddest.
I think Wyoming.
So what's funny is I hear a lot from the left when they're like, if that were to happen,
the red states would become a third world nation.
And no, no.
I mean, maybe.
But you know what?
I don't think the people advocating for this care at all.
I think they're like, OK, have they been to New York City lately?
Have they been to Brooklyn?
Like, have they seen the rats?
And we won't have to pay the welfare
for everybody in the cities i the only thing that i have complained about when the left put out their
map um we can't let them control the whole west coast because we're going to need ports on the
pacific other than that i'm down for like their proposed split i think it was like amy siskand
or something put out a proposed map yeah i saw this land on the bottom and then like uh united states
of canada yeah um i was like i am so down for that except we need a port on the we could work
out a deal with mexico or we could just take over some i'm turning no okay okay miss pinochet let's
hold on here for a little bit some of my thoughts lately would make pinochet blush to be honest
i've gotten to the point the civil War started was secession. Yeah.
Don't you think that would happen again? Maybe. Well, another thing people need to realize
is that we are on a course for a very turbulent
future. And I think secession and moving apart, just like Alan
West suggested, I think it's going to be a resolution that would
be the least harmful
to the rest of America if we could just peacefully agree to have our own differences, to have
our own states, to live how people want to live and still have a central national defense,
but to be able to respect each other's differences and enable more of states' rights and less
of a big centralized government.
I think that that could be something that is something that we should strive for,
especially now, because when we look at the future, it's going to be a very bumpy ride for everyone.
I think we've reached a point where we're not even on the same page, especially morally.
Words don't even mean the same thing.
Yeah.
Like having a conversation makes no sense now.
Yeah, we can't.
I don't understand how
we can be a cohesive nation when people are speaking completely two different languages
like i i mean i i don't it's not that extreme i mean it's not completely different we're both
speaking english right well no we're not i mean people can learn yeah but there's like dictionary
definitions change to make no sense racism in the dictionary it was i think
webster's or miriam yeah miriam sir became circular like it became essentially meaningless
i did i did a a bit where i read the definition and it's a recursive loop because they use the
word racism in the definition of racism so it's like because it was like it was it was like power
exerted over someone on the basis of of you know of being racist or whatever and it's like okay so it just never ends no there's a there's a there's
a bunch of things that when when i'm trying to have a conversation with someone i have to ask
them to define certain things like systemic racism what does that mean you're gonna get a million
different definitions because there's different tribes that say things and they mean different
things racism and sexism clearly do not mean the same things to the right and to the left. And now there's even a new study out today that talks about this unconscious bias
training showing how essentially it doesn't do anything but creates a worse of a problem,
which is something that really needs to be talked about because no one really wants to touch that
topic at all. We have a story here from Real Clear Science. Research shows diversity training is ineffective.
You don't say.
To everybody listening, I just want you to imagine that you're at work.
Maybe you work in an office, common job, you're at a computer, and they say it's time for your mandated corporate diversity training.
What's the first thing every single person thinks, or 90% 90 of them when they're told this is what's
going to happen a guy in a suit no no just any person any average person exactly i think of the
office i roll the office space segment when they had their diversity training do you remember that
clip no it's been a while it's it's i won't i don't want to spoil it yeah nobody want nobody
cares they're like oh corporate drug if, I'd imagine it made it worse.
That's what the study found.
It found that it did make race relations worse.
I mean, already.
Let's be honest here.
A lot of the woke people, they're very uncomfortable around people of color already.
But imagine.
They admit it.
Yes, yes.
They're very patronizing a lot of times.
Yeah, they're patronizing a lot of the times.
They're awkward.
They're weird.
And if you treat someone differently because of their skin color, obviously you're not going to gel or work with them as if you just treat them like a normal human being, which a lot of people are forgetting and they're not doing at all.
Well, Black Lives Matter drove a whole bunch of Hispanics over to the right, too.
Yeah.
That was crazy.
So it was really interesting.
Do you know Hunter Avalon?
Yeah.
What is that about? We had him on the show the other day and uh you know he's nice but he's he's very like he said he's like now he used to be conservative now he's center center left he
voted for biden i'm like but uh you know he was talking about how he's very much in favor of the
traditional family and i'm like so you so you Black Lives Matter? And he's like, no, no. I'm like, yes or no. Black Lives Matter explicitly in there, they're doing it.
Was it the New York Teachers Union did that curriculum? Yeah. The Black Lives Matter curriculum
where they oppose the traditional family. It's not just the parent organization. It's like the
general group and what they espouse. They do not like traditional families. So, you know,
to even go back to the discussion, it's very clearly a divide between what these
countries are.
New York, very, very different from, say, West Virginia.
But he doesn't recognize that.
I think one of the big issues is that you tell somebody racism is bad and they're going
to be like, I like that.
That's correct.
I don't like racism.
Great.
But then what they're really doing is see the woke left definition of the word racism
is like or is literally them being racist or should say they call it anti-racism and
it's the same exact thing as racism.
The only real difference is what their stated intent is, I suppose.
So they're advocating for one thing, calling it something else, and then having people
do these trainings who clearly don't like it.
And all it does is make everything everything worse make everybody hate each other yeah if you're if you're gonna
tell someone that someone else is bad you're doing a bad thing so you're the bad one saying that guy's
bad so it's like if you're gonna use evil to call out evil you're the evil one well basically they're
like racism is bad our solution is to judge people on the basis of their race.
It's like, okay.
Well, who was it?
Ibram X. Kendi, who was talking about how the only way to make things right was just to be more biased against white people?
This doesn't seem like the way forward.
No, he said discrimination against everybody.
Oh, everyone.
Okay.
Well, it's truly equal.
I like that.
Well, yeah.
I mean, they've been.
Sorry.
No, go ahead.
In the schools, they've been pretty much teaching
white kids to hate themselves yes and that that's the thing that really drives me over the edge and
thank god i homeschool but um they're they're teaching people not to credit edison with
light bulbs cartoon network put out a thing about that and like all these things that are just like
little digs at white kids and it's gonna make white kids feel bad and hate themselves the edison their skin but the edison thing is interesting
so they're they're saying it was some black dude who invented the light bulb i guess oh yeah but
it was actually that he and i think he perfected a filament that improved upon it and i'm pretty
sure didn't he work for edison i'm gonna look it up sure i'm so my understanding of what it
happened over while the cartoon played but it's it's not a Black Lives Matter thing.
It's a socialism thing.
It's a communism thing.
He invented it, but he was working for Edison.
Edison said, here's what we're doing.
Here's what we're building.
He went, oh, okay.
And then he improved on the project.
And it's about crediting the worker versus crediting the owner.
You see?
Ah, yeah.
Yeah, his name's Lewis Howard Latimer.
And he was an American inventor, patent draftsman for the patents of the incandescent light bulb, among other inventions.
I could go deeper into it.
Yeah, but wasn't it actually invented?
He just made like a new filament.
Yeah.
The most used filament of the time.
But my understanding is that isn't the original light bulb still on?
It's always been on.
It's in a firehouse in New York City or something like that.
Yes.
And because of planned obsolescence, we're now given light bulbs that we have to keep buying again and again.
Yes, that's, I guess, like the typical thing here on the internet.
I think the official answer was that it was completely impractical to build
because it was expensive and hard to produce.
But I also think you got a guy who makes a light bulb and says,
these things basically light up forever.
And they're like, so what?
We run a company for a year and then we're done?
Good point. Can we get something that fails fails and now here's the best part that's that's the guy who invented the filament that we used for like 100 years was he
the one who who perfected the obsolescence so they're trying to credit him for making the light
bulb when in fact he may be the guy who's credited for creating the bad light bulbs that caused
rampant pollution and consumerism and basically emboldened capitalism.
I'm not saying that's true.
I'm just saying.
I heard the story.
There's a firehouse in New York.
I guess they have light bulbs.
It's been on forever.
It's still on.
Yeah, I heard about that as well.
Yeah, I don't know if that's true.
I don't know.
Whatever.
I've been thinking a lot about secession since that came up a little bit earlier and i think that maybe a better thing
would be a revolution against uh taxes that are imposed unjustly you i don't i don't that's not
going to solve the culture where i come in like sales like like what does that payroll tax what
does that have to do with like kids getting puberty blockers well i know i'm just kind of
jumping track right here
and taking us taking it back to where it was like 20 minutes ago has nothing to do with that people
but those are those are the issues for the culture war solution listen kids are crazy because we've
been at war for fight because we want to extract opium and oil for money so if we can get out of
this fiat realm of the opec dollar and stop worshiping the dollar
then i think well it won't be so crazy because we won't have to go to war the the one thing that
may drive an actual divorce is the fact that the populist left in the populist right don't care for
any of that stuff and it's only the neo libs and neocons who are like yay war so you give you give
you know the bernie sanders crew the opportunity but we don't care about that we want people to
have health care and you go to the conservatives and crew the opportunity to be like, we don't care about that. We want people to have health care. And you go to the conservatives, the Trump supporters,
and they'll be like, bring our jobs back. Like, I don't see any of the Bernie people being like,
yay war. Well, some of them, but not like the legit progressives. And the Trump supporters,
definitely not. So if there's one thing that's going to drive a peaceful split is when both
populist factions tell the establishment, we don't care about you anymore, and we don't agree.
And we don't like those people either, but we agree not to interact anymore.
I think the real issue is we could have a weakening of the federal government.
We don't need a peaceful split.
We don't need a civil war or revolution.
We need the Supreme Court to stop being able to dictate laws for the entire country.
Right.
That's really it.
Federalism.
Yeah.
If I was thinking about I was reading a lot about the the uh
revolution and american independence you know that a bunch of people in new york signed a
declaration of dependence they were like we don't want revolution we we love the king so like 500
and something people signed this no one knows because well you know we won and they didn't
so but uh but anyway the the original articles of confederation in the u.s extremely. It was basically like all the states with whatever authority they had said, we're going to fight for each other so that, you know, we're all independent.
And then after that, you kind of do your own thing.
With the Constitution, they were all like, okay, now we're one country and we have to, you know, we have these rules.
We have a Supreme Court.
We have legislation and stuff like that.
It affects everybody.
I guess that was a decent idea. But now what's happening is we can still provide for the common Court. We have legislation and stuff like that. It affects everybody. I guess that was
a decent idea. But now what's happening is we can still provide for the common defense. We can still
do what the federal government was supposed to do in collecting taxes and providing military and
negotiations on behalf of all the states. But does it make sense that half the states completely
disagree with half the states on certain key issues. And the Supreme Court says we hereby rule that everyone must abide a certain way.
While I certainly agree with a lot of the rulings of the Supreme Court because they've benefited me and my family, like going back to the 60s and civil rights and stuff like that.
The problem now is that the cultural issues are so, like, stark and completely out of this world that, I we're on the verge of people when we're
literally watching people kill each other and beat each beat each other in the street
if we just said okay west virginia you can have your guns and do your thing
okay you know and if you if people don't like it you can move somewhere else but it's weird the
left of the ones advocating for saying like all states must conform to one uniform law in this
country even though they don't live in these states yeah if california wants to give up their
guns i don't care just stay out of west virgin states. Yeah, if California wants to give up their guns, I don't care.
Just stay out of West Virginia.
Right, exactly. Yeah, if someone wants to be this armed and live with a bunch of rats around them,
they could go to New York City, you know?
Go right ahead.
Feel free to support those incentives.
And I think, really, you hit on a good point here.
Decentralization, I think, is a peaceful way to resolve a lot of this.
And I think if there ever was an opportunity to make people realize that independence, state's rights are very important, it is right now. I think we
have a very big opportunity to remind everyone we don't need a huge, big bloated bureaucratic
federal government centralizing and controlling everything. We see what happens with the DMV,
it's not a good idea. Less government is good, and it allows
people to prevail. It allows people to thrive. It allows people to, of course, not be squashed and
screwed over by all the big multinational corporations that are using government to
their own personal benefit. And a lot of people have it skewed. They're saying the corporations
are evil. We need more government. No, you you fool you don't understand that it's because of big government and their incentives and their programs and their
one-on-one working with them that has established them to be these big giants that they are right
now and why we're living in this current situation that we are it's because of direct government
intervention you know i was i've been i've been talking about talking for a while about the track towards a civil war and seeing like half the states align against the other and, you know, almost making it to the Supreme Court.
Or it was docked in the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court rejected it.
It just shows that there is serious alignment between the left, the Republicans, Democrats left to right against each other.
You know, based on the stuff we were talking about with like a new Occupy Wall Street, I'm wondering if it's not going to be a civil war, but a revolution.
And what I mean by that is it'll look more like what happened to Syria than like the
civil war in this country.
We have a political establishment.
You have people like Joe Biden.
He's filling the ranks like Joe Biden.
You know what he did?
The moment they said Joe Biden is the president-elect, he was like, all right, and he got a fire
truck and he hooked the hose right into a big old swamp and started spraying D.C. down full blast.
The fire hose handed.
Seriously, he is filling the swamp with a fire hose.
So, you know what?
I'm talking about the left and their autonomous zones.
Like you said, you don't care if California bans guns.
Just stay away from West Virginia.
OK, so now you got this town in Washington.
Why would they interfere with what Portland's doing? You voted for it. That's your,
you go do your thing. So what happens then when the, when the establishment tries to maintain
control over all of them, and then you get something like, you know, right-wing individuals,
right-wing militias saying to left-wing militias, hey, you don't like, like we saw with the Boogaloo
Boys and Black Lives Matter and Antifa. There was this rally in the West Coast with the boogaloo boys and black lives matter and antifa there was this rally
in the west coast where the boogaloo boys were like shaking hands with antifa and they were like
look we disagree with you but we all agree the government's bad right and they're like yeah
and there's a there's a video i think it's from ford fisher where the antifa guy is like you stood
with us today and we respect you for that and so what happens those people will say we don't want
to go to your your town or your state. We want our state.
And the Boogaloo boys and the right wing are like, we completely agree. It's the establishment
and the government, you know, the mainstream political establishment is bad. So in that sense,
if we if it comes down to like these COVID lockdowns destroying people's lives,
you're going to and the Michigan police blocking the GOP from coming into the Capitol building,
they shut it down, then Republicans are eventually going to be like, why am I going to support these
police? Then when Antifa and Black Lives Matter go and fight the cops and say defund the police,
conservatives are going to be like, okay. I'm already seeing it.
Yeah. I've been covering this stuff a lot.
And I think I had tweeted out the Michigan video of them being denied entry. My mentions are all Republicans being like, why are we backing blue?
Let's stop backing the blue.
I don't back the blue anymore.
And it's getting to a point.
But the problem is there's different.
The reasons are very different.
So I don't think there'll be an alliance necessarily.
No, but if the enemy of the enemy is my friend and, you know, the cops are doing something bad, then the Republicans are going to be like, I'm not getting involved.
So I don't think the right I shouldn't say Republicans.
I keep saying that the Trump supporters are the populist right.
I don't think they're going to show up to Portland and be like, we've come to supply aid in your fight against the establishment.
Maybe in some point, I think mostly they're going to sit back, put their feet up and be like,
we ain't helping you.
You're on your own, officer.
Why don't you go lock down some poor working family's business so they go starve to death?
I'm not going to support that.
I personally will not support that.
And so the more I see these cops like in Staten Island,
barring people from their First Amendment rights, I'm like, sorry,
I'm not going to support those cops by all means.
Antifa, do your thing. I don't care.'t care defund them whatever i don't live there if you voted for it
well that's you know you live there well let me say but if it was invaded by like a foreign country
would you still come to their aid that's an interesting question because at one point i
probably would have said yes at this point man i don't know if if if new york destroys everything
and their government destroys everything maybe
you know for the people not the establishment government or maybe i just might just be like
well this is what happens when you lose support of the people and they no longer feel the government
represents them someone could come in and invade and i'm going to be like it's not a government
for me they don't i've never been a republican they never represented me
joe biden certainly doesn't none of these people do so why would i do anything i'm not a part of
that community yeah the bigger question is who would want new york city no one wants that hell
who i live there i moved away from there for for a particular reason it's a little rather would
rather live in my parking lot yes i'm a lot happier here. My RV is bigger than my apartment was in New York City.
I mean, New York's there when it flooded during Sandy.
Yeah, I was there.
Tim was there as well.
I was there.
Yeah, I was there.
That was crazy.
You know, one thing the government, I think, is overreaching and overdoing.
It's a little bit too much is forcing us all to use the same currency.
And if they would just back off and let us decentralize command here... But you can.
That's not true. I mean... The U.S. dollar
is the national currency. So what?
It's illegal to start a currency in the United States right now.
That's not true. Ithaca has the Ithaca
hour. They send them to us. Yeah.
There's a bunch of jurisdictions with local currencies.
There's a big movement. Breckenridge dollars.
Well, that's awesome. And there's cryptocurrencies.
There is crypto, but they regulate the
hell out of it. And I don't think they should the the issue i think was there was
one guy look do you remember the guy who did the liberty dollar do you remember that yes he got
raided but i guess it was because he was printing money and calling it dollars and currency that's
what i'm talking about but that's that's not the so when you look at places like ithaca they have
they it's not really big anymore i went there you know a year or two ago and asked him about it and
they said it still exists but it kind of fell out of disuse because the main proponent eventually—
And they could have done it if they just didn't put dollars on there.
Right, exactly.
What's happening is the Federal Reserve is like a parasite.
The Federal Reserve is a parasite in the brain of the U.S. military, and it's using the military to force us to use U.S. dollars.
It allows them to print value.
It allows them to fabricate value outright to fund the military.
It allows them to force the military
to make us use the dollar.
In regards to the military,
could we change topics specifically
to people who try to hold
the U.S. military complex accountable
and what happens to them?
Can we talk about...
Who am I talking about here?
Can you guys guess?
Kennedy.
John F. Kennedy.
No, yeah, sort of, but that's julio robert
kennedy mass mass massange julio julian assange i'm ready let's go yes cassandra who's julian
assange julian assange is possibly the biggest hero in the world in my opinion who should have
a parade and a day named after him. But no.
He is the founder of WikiLeaks
also. So what's going on with Julian Assange?
So today... I heard
Trump was going to pardon him. I heard that too.
Yeah. But that was BS.
And it was
shocking news to his legal
team and his family and his friends
who were devastated
a couple hours later when
pastor mark burns tweeted that it was fake news and that he had bogus sources let me pull up the
story we got from newsweek is trump pardoning julian assange pastor mark burns tweet sends
rumors flying so i don't know if they have the tweet pulled up but mark burns have verified
twitter so they don't and he tweeted that uh that he was going to what does he say?
He went on to say disregard.
He said breaking news.
They don't have the tweet
in this article.
That's trash.
But everybody kind of went nuts
and they all wanted to believe it.
Everybody wanted it to happen.
Left and right.
I was in tears.
Left and the right.
The populists left.
The populists right were like
this is amazing.
Trump should do this.
The establishment was very angry. bill crystal i said i remember sending out a message
when that happened i'm like okay we don't know who the source is we don't know if this is true
we have no information that verifies this but let's keep this going because maybe trump will
see this and change his mind didn't trump talk about it or he talked about snowden snowden i i mean i got hundreds of messages right after yeah i saw i saw your status update you said
uh journalist who wouldn't spit on me if i was on fire are now contacting me like crazy was that
yeah all these mainstream media journalists are like hey cass buddy old pal wouldn't spit on what
have you heard about julian and i'm like oh are you guys writing another
hit piece on me or you just want some info you're gonna have to read gateway pundit
i was such a bitch honey sorry um well so so so it's fake news huh yeah um apparently i mean it's
possible that trump planted it so that he could feel it out and see if there was support which
is why i was encouraging people to really tweet it.
Well, the pastor had a photo of him talking to Trump in what looked like a confidential way.
That was his literal picture.
Wait, wait, wait.
Trump was talking to the pastor.
There's a picture of the pastor.
He definitely has ties to Trump.
And Trump said he was considering pardoning everybody, right?
Literally.
Anybody who talks to him.
Yeah.
So like basically.
Yeah. So like basically. Yeah.
Today, Julian Assange's legal team put in the official formal request for a pardon.
I think it'll happen.
You know why?
Why?
Because Trump wants to give a big middle finger to the deep state, to the intelligence agencies
who screwed with him and jammed him up for years.
But he still also has people like neocons like Grinnell and stuff surrounding him being like,
WikiLeaks is bad.
They're so bad.
They hurt national security.
I don't know.
But I don't know.
Trump might be like, I'm going to burn it all down on the way out.
I hope not.
Yeah, I hope you're right.
But if you look at Trump's relationship with WikiLeaks, it's extremely bipolar.
It's like you have a crazy girlfriend that's like, I love you.
I hate you. I love i hate you if you remember trump said officially he loved wiki leaks i love the
wiki leaks then when he became president he pretended not to even know who julian assange
was he talked about literally executing chelsea manning so when we're talking about his record
about whistleblowers yeah and snowden he talked about executing edward snowden when we're talking about his record about whistleblowers, and Snowden, he talked about executing Edward
Snowden. When we talk about his record
on whistleblowers, it's not the best.
I hope you're right.
But come on, time is ticking, Trump.
If we're going to do it, do it.
Stop wasting everyone's time and stop raising people's
false hopes about this. Let's do this
already. Julian Assange is not a whistleblower.
He's a journalist. That's it.
And you can dislike what he's published, correct that's it and you can you can
dislike what he's published but uh i i i can't remember who was talking about this but it was
like on fox news and it was some republicans saying maybe maybe one of the good ones or
something saying you know when the new york times got the nsa leaks were they charged and arrested
wiki leaks gets information and they publish it. Well, this is the very dangerous
thing that's happening right now with Julian
Assange. If the United States is able to
get away with this, anyone reporting
anything, anywhere in the world,
regardless of their citizenship,
can be arrested, sent to the United
States, and essentially sent away to jail for
telling the truth. Here's the best part.
All of this basically confirms the
initial arrest of Assange was bunk. What was it? charge was like a statutory rape split condom right yeah literally
yeah they chart well they never actually charged him they never charged him in that they imprisoned
him for what seven years um he was he was in the ecuadorian embassy with asylum he was technically
a political refugee yes they were talking about secret grand jury indictments which the mainstream media was saying was a conspiracy
theory yeah the mainstream media yeah the mainstream media is like there's no secret
grand jury indictment against the sound she should just leave he's wasting everyone's time
he's creating a spectacle the mainstream media was literally on that point like like white on
rice and they were absolutely wrong yeah Yeah, I believe it was 2013.
The Stratford League came out,
and they laid out what they wanted to charge Julian with,
and an espionage act was listed in there.
And I would tweet about it all the time,
and all these reporters would be like,
you're such a conspiracy theorist,
he could walk out of there anytime he wants.
And I'm like, no, he cannot. And then what happened?
The door got kicked in, and they dragged him out.
During the Trump administration,
and there's wheeling and dealing behind the Trump administration with the Ecuadorian embassy, with the United Kingdom to get him out of there.
And that's exactly what they did.
So we have to also understand on the backdrop of Trump doing this to Assange, is he going to pardon him?
But why did Trump do it to Assange?
Well, allegedly, it's because Assange wouldn't give up his sources which he is known for
for doing sources of what he's still the dnc links manning yes right yes so we have to we have to
hold on hold on what the source of what the dnc leaks that's right yeah if you look at the big
picture it seems that trump was looking at assange and he said i got the deep state on my back
accusing me of working with russia and they're claiming that
that was used to help me win and if assange just said here's who was the actual source was boom
done russiagate gone overnight yeah russiagate's over it's been done people who were just paying
attention or had a pulse understand or understood that it was bunk from the very beginning why would
he try to appease the mainstream media to such a point why would he try to play up to the mainstream
media to such a point you don't send an innocent man to jail no for for publishing information you
don't get it no i get what you're saying regular people believe the media some of them still do
years they said trump was a russian asset of course i'm not denying that you're totally right
one guy went on msnbc and says we must entertain the possibility that Donald Trump has been working with the Russians since 1987.
That was a Soviet Union.
Eric Swalwell said that he was a Russian agent.
As he was banging his fang fang.
As he was with his fang fang.
It's crazy.
And he was talking about honeypots as well, saying that there was Russian honeypots with Trump.
Did you hear what they said on Fox News about swalwell and fang fang
no they're like when you're a two and she's a 10 it's a honeypot hold on there's a babble
there's a babble on b article that is absolutely brilliant with their headline today and in the
headline reads chinese spy assigned to date eric swalwell begs to be sent to labor camp instead. And I'm like, that
maybe happened.
It's probable. But again, when we talk
about this whole Russian collusion thing,
if he's playing up to the mainstream media so
they don't call him a Russian asset, what is he
trading in for that? Sending an innocent male
and sending a very... I mean, Cassandra, what do you
think about this? I mean,
I was a witness for the defense in
the extradition hearings. So, I mean, I was a witness for the defense in the extradition hearings.
So, I mean, I personally testified kind of against Trump because I was given information that Donald Trump personally ordered Julian's arrest.
So, I mean, I'm personally not overly confident that he's going to do a part in, but I'm hopeful, you know, maybe.
How is it that Trump didn't learn?
And listen, the media was spitting on him every single day.
And he thinks they would ever give him a fair shake.
Yeah.
He could have actually gotten evidence that, you know, about who the source was for the
DNC leaks.
And the media would just say it's fake news.
Right.
They would say Julian Assange lies and claims fake news.
But we know it's Russia.
What would he get out of it? WikiLeaks has never had to redact or apologize for a story in history they've never once published something that was false retract they do redact retract
right did i say redact i think so she said retract yeah you made a redowski both
but if you look at what they're accused of they're accused of essentially what the new york
times does what the washington post does every day all these websites use the wiki leaks model
exactly for submitting you know no no no you guys are wrong wiki leaks does not do what the new york
times does the new york times is a propaganda arm for the establishment wiki leaks publishes
true information sorry what the new york times used to no, no. Purports to do. Okay. Do you guys remember back
when the Palin emails went out on Wikipedia?
Oh, yeah.
Washington Post set up a Twitter account
that was still active last year
when I looked for it.
But they were calling for volunteers
to help go through Palin's emails.
And then look at what they did
with Clinton's emails.
Look what they did with Hunter Biden's emails.
Yeah.
But now they're all talking about it
because they want Kamala.
Yeah.
Yep.
Kamala.
Whatever.
Kamala.
You're going to be put in the gulag there,
Cassandra.
Because I have no respect for her whatsoever
and I don't just crap what her name actually is.
I got to clarify about Assange.
So in the beginning,
he released a bunch of sensitive information
and then they charged him with statutory rape.
Is that right?
No.
I mean, hold on on the surface.
Do you have the timeline here?
So basically, he got these cables from Manning.
They got out or WikiLeaks was spending about nine months so far, like redacting all these names and
making sure that nobody was going to get hurt because of it, that they were taking out locations
of people who were sensitive or, you know, in Afghanistan or whatever.
But then Luke Harding, Luke Harding from The Guardian released a book that had the password
and a former Wikileaks employee put out a link to the the full file unredacted and so combined
these two information like these two pieces of information put together led to websites like
Cryptome and Pirate Bay all putting out the unredacted files and so Julian attempted to
contact the state department and be like hey hey, guys, we have a problem.
We've been redacting everything, but it's coming out.
And the State Department basically told him to screw off.
And so they ultimately ended up having to release everything.
But it leads to an interesting question.
WikiLeaks wasn't actually the first to publish the unredacted files so how come the 50
other outlets that published before before wikileaks didn't get charged and wikileaks
didn't get charged why isn't luke harding sitting in a in an embassy somewhere so so
there was a case in sweden where the the government was basically accusing him of
i think it was what a condom broke or something?
Yeah, a condom broke and there was a love triangle.
Well, was he having sex with an underage woman?
No.
No, no, no.
There's never even been an allegation of that at all.
I guess they wanted to get him an STD test.
That's what it was.
And so the police were like,
ah, yes, we're going to arrest him for rape.
And so he was wanted for questioning.
He said, Sweden has an extradition treaty with the U.S.
and they're trying to get me.
So he went, he was actually arrested, wasn't he?
He was arrested by British authorities and put in a British prison.
No.
Well, yeah, but he was on house arrest.
Yeah, yeah.
He was first, he was arrested.
He went to a British jail or prison.
Then they put him on house arrest with an ankle monitor, right?
And then he went to the Ecuadorian embassy.
He was arrested for rape charges?
No.
No, he was never charged with rape. But we have to understand
that American mainstream media
ran with headlines saying
Julian Assange is a rapist who's now
going to get Americans killed all over the
world. Women Against Rape, a feminist
organization, even came out and
said that by calling a condom
breaking rape, you
are doing a disservice to rape victims everywhere.
But we have to understand,
there was many mainstream media publications
that ran with that.
And I remember being at the court proceeding
for Chelsea Manning,
and it coming out that the leak
didn't lead to anyone dying.
But that was the major thing
that the mainstream media was running with.
The Pentagon admitted that.
Julian Assange, I'll tell you what my opinion is the whole Swedish investigation was dropped like the moment they snatched him up and they're like okay we got him okay we forget all that stuff
we don't care anymore it was it was very obvious Julian Assange was right the whole time it was an
excuse to get him to Sweden they could send him back to the U.S. that was that was the big plan
they wanted to lock him down lock him up they got him locked up in Ecuadorian embassy for years, hindering his ability to work. Finally, he gets
pulled out by Trump. Julian Assange was a thorn in the side of the political establishment in the
deep state intelligence agencies. He was doing work as a journalist, and he was doing good work.
And so they said, well, we can't have that. We own all the other journalists. I'm saying that
figuratively because they're all
very much in the bag i think most of these people who work for these companies are activists who
just love the democrats in the establishment thomas jefferson said that the um the political
parties will always maintain a standing army of news writers who will do whatever the party wishes
so julian assigned to the control but pulled out as one term uh getting him out of there and
charging him and now making him face charges is another term.
So that's also another aspect that we have to understand here.
Because he is facing very serious charges that could lead him to have jail for the rest of his life.
170 years.
Exactly.
Espionage act charges.
Trump better pardon this dude, I swear.
Look, they're saying.
I'm going to clip that myself.
Yes, do it.
Trump better pardon this dude, I swear. Hold on,'re saying. I'm going to clip that myself. Yes, do it. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Listen, Donald Trump is facing criminal investigations at the state level.
Joe Biden says he's not going to go after him.
So, you know, I was reading this thing.
It's really fascinating.
It's from Ulysses S. Grant.
He wrote about the Civil War and he said, if anybody feels that they're oppressed by
the government, it's their right to revolution.
But you have to recognize you're putting your life, your property and your guarantees of citizenship on the line when you do.
Well, they're basically threatening Trump supporters and Trump with that already.
COVID's taken away people's property, their life, their pursuit of happiness and all of that.
And so their choices are extremely limited right now.
It's like, what do I do?
Stand up, fight back or lose everything?
Donald Trump is staring down the barrel of the state
level criminal investigations. They are threatening his life, his property and his guarantee, his
grant guarantees that as a citizen, after all this goes down, after he, you know, he leaves office,
assuming that's what happens. So Trump has every reason to fight to the bitter end.
But if Trump loses support of people by not making sure he abides by what the actual populist right
and many on the populist left, as much as they might not like him if he just says i'm gonna cozy up to the establishment fine i won't pardon assange
well then who's going to be supporting him when he's a citizen and they're going after him with
these with these with his crazy no one they'll steamroll him and throw him under the bus if he
does that and people are going to be like well a lot of people support and and and respect trump
he needs to show the people that he's going
to stand up to the establishment he needs to pardon people like assange and snowden
and uh ross albrecht is that right ross albrecht albrecht yep he needs to he needs to tell that
he needs i don't think necessarily going to guarantee him more support he's always going
to have his base but i think if i would support him if he did that if he's part of the freedom
fighter yeah what if he pardoned all non nonviolent drug offenders who didn't plead down?
Like did a review?
That's a big thing.
I'm not too concerned with all or none things right now.
I just that's too too complex.
There's just some people that need to not be charged.
I think Trump should rubber stamp the pardon.
Just dishing them out.
Like you said, make it rain.
I just want.
I mean, everybody likes to lump in Julianian with all these other people particularly snowden i think that
julian's situation is much more dire and it deserves to be discussed it's like almost
fraudulent the way they went after the guy absolutely it was so obvious to everybody
these these accusations against him the smears in the media he was doing real work publishing
real journalism for the first time in a long time.
And you know what?
The powers that be are like,
listen, our friends,
you want to know how it works?
When you work for these news organizations,
they're called access journalists.
They're like, I better not make the CIA angry
because they give me great scoops.
And WikiLeaks embarrassed
a lot of those journalists.
Like it came out that they were,
you know, getting slipped stories from the DNC that they were you know getting slipped stories from
the dnc that they were you know sliding over the debate questions uh to hillary clinton
like they embed wikileaks embarrass the media just as much as embarrassed politicians
if donald sorry so no no no go right ahead if donald trump really wants to get back at these
people donald trump has spent four years being like the
fake news, the fake news. We need real news. If he actually believed that and he actually wanted
to fight against fake news and against a deep state that's been going after him for four years,
this is the best way to do it. Stick it to them by showing them what real journalism is and freeing
Julian Assange. And more than that, a broad pardon to protect Julian from other bunk BS charges.
A very broad preemptive pardon.
Yeah.
Another thing that came out that you just brought up was the fact that the DNC wasn't just directing the news, but literally writing the news.
Where mainstream media journalists sent articles for approval from the DNC.
And we're talking about this is the mainstream media.
This is the establishment. Many people had to resign in disgrace because they got caught red-handed just being puppeteers
for the establishment, not actual critical thinkers and safeguards in the fourth branch
of the government. They weren't any of that. They were puppeteers, horse-tree media
prostitutes that literally regurgitated their talking points to the T.
This is a bipartisan thing, too.
You guys were both at the DNC, right?
Yes.
Outside the DNC, they were chanting,
Hillary cheats, thank you, WikiLeaks,
after Bernie conceded.
Yep.
And that chant went on for a long time,
and then they started taking away people's signs
because there were people who had WikiLeaks signs,
Bernie signs.
DNC people came around with a trash bags, started throwing them all away.
They had white noise machines, didn't they?
Yeah.
Wow.
But now you have this new generation of younger leftists who don't like Assange and don't know anything about him.
Well, it's because they don't know.
They think politics started in 2017 or whatever.
They're like, orange man bad.
And they don't remember.
None of them had to bury their friends like we did after they got shipped off to Afghanistan.
I mean, I got mostly involved in politics after my friend died in Afghanistan.
And so when WikiLeaks put out those releases, the war logs, I was like, this is it.
This is something that I will forever support and stand for but these people
they they think that politics just started and they don't understand the trump is bad we got
to vote for biden he's just an old man it's like what was the war logs it well it was 200 was
collateral murder part of it yes yeah but it was it was a whole bunch of cables and documents that showed the cost of war, essentially.
It showed U.S. government killed a Reuters camera with a photojournalist.
And then they lied about it.
Collateral Murder was probably one of the biggest releases.
It's on YouTube, right?
It was.
It got taken down a lot.
It's a video showing people walk out of
a building and then they just like kill them all and it turns out it was like a reuters journalist
not just them but also the ambulance that came afterwards and they and they shot up an ambulance
with a small child inside yeah we also didn't really know how many civilians were dying or just
how much death was happening in general. So by releasing all these cables,
people in America got a chance
to actually see what this war was costing us
and what it was costing people all over the world.
And support, because of WikiLeaks directly,
support for the wars went down
and people started getting brought back.
And so...
And the truth shall set you free.
Some other guy released an unredacted report and Julian got busted for it.
It's a little complicated.
But basically.
The files were being held online and there was a really encrypted password that you needed to get to it.
But different news organizations that were working with WikiLeaks all had this password so that they could all go because there were so many files.
So they partnered with like The Guardian and all these newspapers.
They all had access to it.
But then Luke Harding wrote a book about WikiLeaks and he put on Pirate Bay and Cryptome.org and all these websites.
And so Julian, it was either pull the trigger or lose the story.
I still remember this collateral murder video because it was absolutely shocking to finally
see the true reality of what was going on there and to see helicopter pilots laugh and be
so inappropriate when it came to executing what then we found out was journalists.
We also found out that Reuters was asking the US government what happened, what was
going on here, and the US government just kept denying the family members, the journalists,
their friends, their company.
They couldn't find anything about what actually happened,
how they died until this video came out,
which, again, just finally showed the American people the reality of war.
Because we have to understand, this Iraq war was a mainstream media war.
It was squeegee-cleaned.
There was PR talking points.
Weapons of mass destruction in yellow cakes.
There was embedded news reporters within the military showing you a perspective of go America, it's great.
Helping kids.
Not the perspective that the American people saw in Vietnam where journalists actually saw and reported on the realities of war which made a lot of people anti-war in the United States.
We didn't have that. But finally, WikiLeaks, we finally got the reporting that we got during the Vietnam War
and people started to finally ask questions
and saying,
this is not protecting my freedoms.
These guys with sandals
in the middle of the desert
aren't a threat to me.
And we have bloodthirsty psychopaths
who are literally foaming at the mouth,
celebrating and are happy
that they just shot up
innocent people and journalists.
The video footage was from the Bush administration, wasn't it?
Yes.
And then it carried on under the Obama administration.
Yeah, no matter what you feel about Manning, too.
I remember during the trial, Manning was like, it was like watching children torturing ants
with a magnifying glass.
And I never forgot that.
It always stuck with me.
And for what?
For what?
For Halliburton contracts?
Yes.
To gain strategic territory surrounding Iran because people likeiburton contracts to gain strategic territory
surrounding Iran because people like John
Bolton want to celebrate in Tehran
it's not even strategic territory
the Iraq war made Iran more powerful
and it
allowed them to expand their sphere of influence
in the region which makes them a bigger threat
against the US geopolitical neocon power
so it didn't even serve the
original objective that they said it was serving, and it did
the opposite of that.
Again, order out of chaos, creating more problems, which later on they're going to have an excuse
to solve, which is absolutely crazy.
I just had a crazy idea.
What if we just take the troops out of these countries?
Whoa.
And bring them back here?
What?
Right?
Well, the NDAA this year has a provision in it.
No, no. here what right well the ndaa this year has a provision in it no no they're trying to pass a provision within the ndaa that would prevent a president from sending troops back home okay so
hold on the ndaa is the national defense authorization yes it's basically them approving
the budget and spending for all of this stuff when it comes to war and trump keeps saying he's
gonna veto it and every time he does i just. And I just want to like put my feet up
and like crack a beer and be like, do it.
Just do it.
I mean, he's threatening to repeal Section 230,
which is a big mistake.
But didn't Rand Paul jam up the NDAA as well?
Yes, he did a whole filibuster.
He always filibusters.
And he's now speaking out against it as well.
And he's bringing up the fact that, you know,
under this NDAA, a president has unlimited power to send troops anywhere in the world, start any war he wants, lead people to death easily just with a decree.
But sending them home, he can't now without congressional approval.
So that's in the new NDAA that they're trying to get passed.
Man, this political establishment. You know what? It's like the people in power right now,
I guess what I was describing it as,
like the neocons slapped social justice as a wrapping,
and now they're like Democrats, I guess.
It's like the same thing.
No, the neocons infest both parties.
They always have.
And as soon as the right started being a little bit anti-war,
Bill Kristol slithered over to the Democrats
and was like, hi, guys,
peeking out from his festering trash bag.
Wait, you say slither, though,
but what's it called when slugs ooze their way?
What's it called?
Sliming.
Sliming their way?
That's more, you know.
Snakes are all right.
We call them militants rather than neocons.
These militants.
No, well, the point I'm making than neocons these militants no well but
like the point the point i'm making is neocons are a very specific group they don't fight what i'm
saying is the difference between a neocon and a neolib is that one is like pro-social justice
like it's not a conservative thing to go to war that's a very it's not it's the opposite it's
both parties though these people have infested both. And I don't even think it's fair to say that it's just, you know, Republicans or that all the neocons have went over to the Democrats because it's not true.
We still have Dan Crenshaw.
They have Bill Kristol.
These people from PNAC all have spread out all over the place.
And everybody just seems to forget all the things that they've lobbied for and the things that they've done. But if you if, God forbid, you tweeted 15 years ago some kind of joke that's now perceived
racist, they're not going to forget that.
But if you lobbied for the Iraq war and lied us into war, you'll get elected president.
Yeah, you can fit in with both parties.
They'll put you on MSNBC.
Mitch McConnell will say, please don't vote for Trump.
We need Joe Biden to win so he can blow up more kids.
Do you guys know who Daniel Ellsberg is?
Yes.
Yeah.
He released the Pentagon Papers, which basically got us out of Vietnam.
He's a big advocate of Julian.
Yeah.
Well, also, we just had the Afghanistan Papers, which were just released.
And again, just a blip on the mainstream media and then never really talked about again,
showed, again, almost exact similarities to uh you
know the vietnam war when it specifically came to a pointless endeavor that doesn't help anyone
except for the military contractors with even mainline u.s military officials saying there's
absolutely no reason we're in here but we still are this country flourished best when there was
an honest well i shouldn't say there was an honest, but when there were good journalists doing the work,
when there was a balance between the government and
the people and public right to know, the weird
things that Luke brought up, like the heart attack gun.
We eventually learn about these things because journalists did
their job. But these people thought
it would just be so easier
if the journalists were just in
our pockets. If we just, we can
feed them these stories and they'll be too
scared to speak out against us. They'll support the establishment, get the activists in these pockets. If we just, we can feed them these stories and they'll be too scared to speak out against us.
They'll support the establishment,
get the activists
in these organizations.
And now there's none.
So there's no challenge
to a runaway broken system.
The corrupt keep corrupting
and the system is decaying rapidly
because of it.
And independent media
is the only institution
still calling it out.
And that's why we're seeing
a lot of it
being just absolutely censored.
We won't exist anymore
a lot of us if julian assange is thrown in prison i mean what kind of precedent is this setting
as soon as you know we have some ultra left administration in there they're going to toss
all the right-wing journalists in jail the right's going to toss all the leftist journalists in jail
like this this case sets a horrifying precedent people need
to think about it in terms think about the opposite party and if you would want the opposite
party having this power bad at that people are yeah they don't uh they don't think beyond what's
happening now and i think one of the issues too glenn greenwald brought up an interesting point
that he said something like if there's one group of people that is the complete inability to learn, it's liberals who advocate for censorship.
But I think what you know what I was realizing when we had some of these guests on who are younger and they're leftists, a lot of these people who are advocating for censorship, they're young.
They didn't they didn't go through Occupy Wall Street or the anti-war protests.
So they didn't see the problems caused by all this.
Now they're like just entering politics for the first time and they're all going,
yay, and cheering for the establishment and, you know, raising their fist in support of
the machine.
Dude, 9-11 was insane.
I was in New York City.
I worked at Ground Zero.
I thought we got attacked.
And then I started seeing all this evidence that the buildings came down in free fall
and that it was a demolition yeah but you dude if that was a demolition and then we were lied to
this entire world war for the last 20 years is a lie it was based on emails about 9-11 you should
read them which ones specifically uh stand out to you i don't remember okay there's like three
three hundred thousand of them but one thing one thing you learn a lot from things like wiki leaks is like
how a lot of the world is not grandiose conspiracy but individual or small group corruption
self-interest and complete and total incompetence like people like the iraq war for instance it's
going to benefit all these people what was that what
was that movie with uh with um what's his face who played he played george w bush josh brolin
was it called w was that it was and you had the scene where dick cheney is like if there's a one
percent chance that sandwich has got someone on which he and he goes oh come on dick no i can't
eat it it wasn't brolin i know what you're talking about it wasn't brolin no it's called vice the
movie's called vice no no no I'm talking about an older movie.
Oh, yeah.
No, maybe it was Brolin. I would actually kind of disagree with you because if you look at the way the establishment
has been getting their way, I think there's an argument to make here that they are somewhat
in charge and that a lot of times they blame it on incompetency as a cover.
I think that's also a possible reality that we have to entertain here that I think is
probable.
Well, the difference between a grandiose conspiracy and powerful elites leveraging their power for personal gain i guess
yeah like bumbling their halliburton into iraq like it didn't seem it wasn't well orchestrated
they were they were real blatant about putting dick cheney's they just say it they just do it
no one cares they're like dick cheney well he was a former ceo wasn't he yeah of halliburton
he's like yeah was he i don't know i don't he was yeah of halliburton he's like
was he i don't know i don't know but it's like dude if not ceo they can just come out and say
it and everyone just says okay this is because they have journalists in their back pocket and
when you have the journalists in your pocket you don't have to confront well i i think it's that
there's no political willpower among the only people who actually care you've got the democrats
who are basically like whatever then Jimmy Kimmel tells me,
I'm going to go vote for Biden.
And then you've got low information left.
The people who are older,
who just watch Jimmy Kimmel and Colbert,
have no idea what's going on.
They're dumb as a box of rocks.
Then you've got young people
with no political experience whatsoever
celebrating the establishment.
Great.
Maybe in 10 years,
they'll realize why you were wrong.
Then on the conservative side,
Republicans,
you know what they're saying right now
on Reddit and r slash conservative?
You know what I'm going to do tomorrow after seeing that, you know,
Joe Biden won the Electoral College? I'm going to wake up, go to work, and I'm going to carry on with my life. And then I'll keep voting and advocating for my cause. Congratulations. Great.
I love it. And how's that been working out for you? Trump supporters are fighting and they're
fervent. MAGA party. Make your own political party and watch the Republicans squirm because if you're not getting what you want anyway, why vote for the Republicans? At the
very least, you can say you stood up for what you believed in. And maybe the Democrats gain
control and they do what they want. Fine. You know what? If the Democrats do, they're not going to
get the progressives are going to be really angry because they're not going to be supporting them.
And maybe they'll fracture eventually. Or you'll say to regular people, this is why the Republicans
have failed you.
They're allowing all that to happen.
And it's about time someone in this country got some political willpower, some wind at
their back and said, we are going to do something totally different, not support these Republicans
who don't care about us.
And not only that, the traditional Republicans don't even really align with what the new
MAGA party is.
It's diverse.
There's people of different backgrounds.
You've got black Trump supporters, gay Trump supporters, gay men, lesbians, people, LGBT. Trump has done something
unique in awakening people who've been paying attention and getting the riled up and stand
behind him. Now they need to assert themselves as their own party and stop voting Republican.
And other Republicans are going to get mad. They're going to be like, Tim's going to help
Democrats win. I don't care about them either. And I don't care about the Republicans. I don't
care which one they're all the same republicans
don't stand for any of the things that i mean a lot of us like trump because he's america first
he cares about putting america first if we're not you know how is building a school in iraq
putting america first it's not so he wants to bring our troops home and things like that
that's not those aren't Republican beliefs.
We all know those aren't Republican beliefs.
So if you're getting if you're getting the same thing from Democrats and Republicans,
then all that's really happening is like vote Republican to kick the can down the road for
another year or vote Democrat to make the can come right to her front door or vote for
something better than kicking a can.
In my opinion, it's because people keep voting for the lesser of two evils.
Why we can't have nice things.
But I don't even, you know, I see what you're saying.
But like the Democrats are fighting for things and demanding things and screaming and pounding on walls and throwing bricks.
The conservatives are going, well, I don't know about all that.
I'm just going to go home and, you know, do not know.
There were a lot of people out in D.C. on Saturday.
Those are Trump supporters.
The Trump supporters are saying rabble, rabble, rabble.
And we saw the Proud Boys acting a whole lot like Antifa.
And I criticized it.
I support it.
Well, I'll tell you this.
Oh, yeah, I do.
So we saw in D.C. Proud Boys came out and were tearing down Black Lives Matter banners and burning them.
Cassandra's cheering for it.
I don't think stealing people's property and burning it.
I don't agree with it. You know I am fine with it they have been burning down cities for almost a
year they came I mean I have personal beef because my I had to move but did that church who paid for
a banner should they be have their banner destroyed you know it's a banner their insurance
will cover it that's what they've been telling us for a year. So the problem I had with that was, did that church do that?
If Antifa wants to act a fool and the Proud Boys say, we'll play, we'll play with you.
If Antifa says, we want the arena of violence.
Antifa burned an actual church.
Absolutely.
And everybody defended it.
Well, I mean, yeah, the liberal media.
The media makes excuse for it.
Listen.
And now they're crying over a banner.
They want me to shed tears over a banner when they were justifying the church that was a
mile and a half from my house catching on fire?
Yes.
You can complain about the media and you can complain about Antifa, but I'm not going to
support anyone victimizing the innocent and the uninvolved.
I don't mind it.
It was a banner.
It was a political banner.
I don't care.
I, honest to God, like, I am glad that they're out there and I'm glad that they're that church is an antifa that church is an antifa it doesn't matter
what why not i don't support i don't support any group stealing other people's stuff and burning
it and destroying it if i'll say this though if antifa says we want the arena of violence and the
proud boys say much obliged well then why am i going to shed a tear for antifa so when the video
comes out of these two antifa getting stomped out and chased down the street and all of a sudden the top post
on Reddit, like the Proud Boys are attacking innocent protesters. I'm like, they've been
begging for this. They're the ones who put out message after message saying violence is the only
answer. We must punch Proud Boys. And the Proud Boys are like much obliged. They want to play.
But if the Proud Boys want to tear down a church's banner that has nothing to do with
this, that wasn't riding or protesting, that's stealing property, destroying someone else's
stuff.
I don't agree with it.
I it doesn't bother me at all.
I honestly I'll pretend that I care if you go on, but I don't.
We can disagree.
I think that, you know, we can't even put up Trump signs in D.C.
Like when I was living in D.C., if I had put up a Trump sign or even an American flag, my house would have got vandalized. Like there's a 0% chance that it
would not have been. And so I just have a really hard time pretending that I give any kind of craps
about a sign. I honestly don't. We can't put up signs. I can put them up now because I'm in West
Virginia. But if you live in a city or even close to a city, you can't put up a Trump sign.
You can't put up an American flag.
So why should they be able to put them up?
I think that, you know, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
So many people told me that I shouldn't be allowed to put up Trump signs because it makes
people uncomfortable.
Well, Black Lives Matter signs make me uncomfortable.
Take them down.
Don't care.
Well, the Proud Boys are not traditional Republicans or conservatives, and they have political will,
and they're stepping up, and they're saying, OK, Antifa, we'll play the game that you've
asked us to play.
So look, when Antifa steals the flag from somebody and burns it, I say you're stealing
someone's private property.
You want to burn your own flag?
That's the first amendment right to go do it.
I don't like anybody vandalizing someone else private property. You want to burn your own flag. That's the first time I write to go do it. I don't like anybody vandalizing someone else's property. If the proud boys go out,
Antifa shows up and then the Antifa gets stomped out. Well, they asked for it. Far be it for me
to tell Antifa that they shouldn't get what they've asked for. They've literally been saying
they post these comments where you must not tolerate intolerance. We must punch these people.
OK, well, if you want to fight them, by all means, you're allowed to do it. If two people agree, not every state is like this, but there
are mutual combat laws where two people can go outside and say, we agree to fight and they fight
and one person gets hurt. The cops say it's mutual combat. So if that's what Antifa wants,
then I'm not going to complain when the proud boys go and stomp them out because they begged for it.
Burning private property. I have a problem with. I see the Black Lives Matter flag no different than I see an ISIS flag.
And I'm not going to cry over a domestic terror organization's flag coming down.
I'm not.
And I honestly, like, I don't feel bad for them.
I just don't.
And I think it's ridiculous that the media wants everybody in the country to cry over
this stupid freaking poster when, you know, four Proud got stabbed there's all the all these other stories that happened
that guy critical condition that guy just got released he's not even being charged now um
they're claiming it was self-defense or whatever but it's like there's so many more important
things in this banner and the fact that we can't even put up a Trump banner and feel comfortable because
of how militarized and radicalized these people are. I just I'm not going to pretend to care.
I tweeted something a while ago. I said, they say diversity and inclusivity. But there's certainly
a limit to inclusivity and diversity, right? Like they don't want to include Nazis. That's
fairly obvious. So when they say diversity, you know, and inclusion, they don't actually mean those words.
What they actually mean is our approved groups should come together because there's even groups that aren't as offensive.
They would say no to if a very peaceful and loving true Christian conservative came around.
They take GTFO like Chris Pratt was apparently a really, really nice guy.
And he wore a Gadsden shirt. He's a Christian and they mock him and they insult him. And as his Hollywood friends, they'd say, GTFO, like Chris Pratt, who's apparently a really, really nice guy. And he wore a Gadsden shirt, and he's a Christian.
And they mock him, and they insult him.
And his Hollywood friends, they do defend him.
So clearly, they're not trying to include even the good, peaceful individuals of diverse
backgrounds.
So diversity and inclusivity doesn't mean anything.
In fact, I would dare say they're intolerant.
They're intolerant to people like Chris Pratt.
And they keep sharing this comic that says, how do you deal with intolerance?
You must reject it from society
because if you tolerate intolerance,
eventually intolerance wins.
Well, when they say the only way to solve this problem
is to beat the authoritarians down to scare them away,
the Proud Boys did that.
They showed up.
They saw a bunch of black individuals
and they beat them up.
That's like a communist and Nazi street violence
pre-World War II. I don't like it like it the probably is going out there is like the nazis going out and fighting back
against the communists or the communists going out it's it's similar in some ways but it's very
different like so the core ideology the proud boys is is nothing like the nazis i would feel
more comfortable being defended by proud boys than the Like, I would rather be in a crowd of Proud Boys than a crowd of cops.
I mean, I can't go out and cover rallies anymore because people recognize me.
They spit at me.
They surround me.
They, you know, do all kinds of ridiculous stuff.
It's happened over and over.
The cops never came and defended me, but the Proud Boys did.
Yep.
So I'm glad that the Proud Boys were out there.
I would like to see more of them out there. And I'm stoked. I was thrilled to see them taking control of the I guess if you want the Proud Boys to go beat the crap out of you, who am I to argue?
I don't like private property being destroyed.
I want people to be able to live and be peaceful.
And somebody wants to fly a flag for Trump, Gadsden flag.
What about ISIS flag?
If they want to fly it, if they have First Amendment right to do so.
Do you want to be near them?
No, of course not.
I don't want to be near them.
I see it as them flying an ISIS flag in the middle of D.C. And I think they're allowed to do it. I don't want to be near the... I see it as them flying an ISIS flag in the middle of D.C.
And that's honestly how I see it.
You think they're allowed to do it?
I don't.
I think that they should be...
You don't think people should be allowed to fly an ISIS flag?
No.
Why not?
Because they're supporting terrorism.
I don't think they should.
But you have a right to free speech.
You can say you like certain things or don't.
It's when...
If they incite and call for direct violence then
i'd be like okay that's bad like yeah if somebody wants to say they're a bad person i'm gonna be
like okay well thanks for letting me know i'll avoid you i don't know the people who fly isis
flags generally do provide material support for isis well that's different if they do then yeah
but if someone wants to claim they like it i'll be like you're insane you're an insane person flag
they should probably be investigated kind of like if someone wears a she they like it, I'll be like, you're insane. You're an insane person. If they have the ISIS flag, they should probably be investigated.
Kind of like if someone wears a Che Guevara shirt, it doesn't really necessarily mean
they support the violent murder of the gay community.
And the LGBT community.
Che Guevara was a murderer.
Gays and blacks.
He hated LGBT community.
And blacks.
People wear his face on their shirts.
Yep.
I kind of see ISIS flags like that.
Like, I could wear an ISIS flag on my shirt.
I don't necessarily believe in what they do.
It's just an image.
I think that's insane
to wear an ISIS flag.
Well, I'm about to wear a We Are Change
logo on my shirt.
That is over the line.
Hold on there. I can defend free speech only so much.
Only so much.
These We Are Change shirts are pretty cool.
This one that says you had me at F the System. Side note. speech only so much only so much i mean these weird change shirts are pretty cool you know like
this one that says you had me and f the system all right side note side note side note did you hear
that chris pratt's character in guardian of the galaxy was announced to be a polyamorous
bisexual yesterday in the comic yes there was a comic about it yeah so i don't know how that
translates to chris pratt in the movies or whatever. But man, Marvel is so desperate to make this work.
They're so trendy, though.
Are they trying to own him for being a conservative?
Probably.
That's what I came up with.
One of the writers is probably like, all right, I'll deal with this.
And then he's going to have to do it in the movie or whatever.
You know what, man?
There's two different countries.
We have two different countries here, clearly.
At least two.
Well, the thing is, we always have.
That's the great thing about the United States.
We've had Italians and Africans. No no that's not what i'm saying what i'm saying we've
always had all these different cultures you've got people who believe in one here no that's that's
not what i said we have two different countries we have people who believe in the constitution
and people who don't you have people who are people who kind of do and people who don't even
know what the constitution is and people who are obsessed with the constitution the two parent
cultures and the culture war are we can do whatever we want and we are the collective and we are in
charge and the leave me alone people it's it's very libertarian versus authoritarian but there's
a bunch of little nuanced factions in between so if you've got people who are like we have a
foundational a foundation of this country the constitution that guarantees individual rights
and then you're the left saying governor cuomo, by edict, can shut your store down
and take away your income while he goes and parties with his friends.
That's the Democrats.
There's like constitutionalists, but then there's people like, the Constitution is not
perfect.
There's a lot of crap in it.
The Federal Reserve Act?
Repeal it.
I'm not like a-
And the 13th Amendment has that pro-slavery imprisonment provision.
We're supposed to change the constitution.
There's people on all levels of the spectrum.
So, so, so in fact, the constitution is fantastic because it allows for amendment.
Yes.
And diversity of thought.
The problem is we're at a point where we're not going to get two thirds of the states
to ratify fixing some of these problems because you've got one faction saying we should get
rid of the, I mean, you've got the left literally writing the new Republic.
It's time to get rid of the constitution.
That's kind of silly.
I think we could get two thirds of the states.
I don't.
With the internet?
We could easily rally 80 million people to do something.
Two thirds of the states.
80 million to vote for Biden.
We can't even get two thirds of the states to vote for one or the other candidate.
It's split.
It's been over the past several elections.
It's a disunified function.
If we needed to rally two thirds of the United States to do something, we could.
Like what?
I don't know, man.
Like the Equal Rights Amendment is probably never going to happen.
So what do you want to do?
Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.
Let's do it.
No one would agree with that.
No state would agree with that.
Why would you say that?
Because the corrupt political parties are running the show.
Join me, Tim.
It's the uniparty, and they're not going to support stuff like that.
We've got two distinct cultures.
You could have conservatives say the rights of free speech should exist on digital platforms as well or internet bill of rights.
And the left is going to go, but my private company is allowed to do what they want because they're weird neocons now, I guess.
So we're at a point where there's two distinct cultures. This is the important thing when people
talk about multiculturalism. You can have these various cultures all under this one umbrella of
the Constitution and free speech and individual liberties and stuff. But when you have one culture
that says the government is allowed to shut down your life, so it the crown and the other side saying come and take it
they clearly don't agree
and it's a recipe for disaster
and that's where we're heading right now
I'm going to get explosively aggro but that's because I have to pee
so I'll be right back
well we should do super chats anyway
I'm not your buddy guy
says if America allowed this election
allows this election
with everything that's happened,
where is the incentive to have integrity anymore? Why don't Republicans just kick out all the
Democrat poll watchers and find enough votes to win at 3am? If allowed, the Republic is dead.
Yes. If Pennsylvania, the judge said, so long as an observer is in the building,
it counts. Well, then every Republican take note precedent has been set. Congratulations.
But more importantly, our Trump supporters going to get behind republicans at this point i think it's a bad idea
so you know maybe maybe it was a period where i was like wow it'll be apocalyptic if the democrats
win now i'm kind of like i don't like purdue or loeffler if they're not giving us an america first
trump policy i don't care if they lose like you see that meme that was uh someone took a bernie
sanders tweet about giving people and they put trump on it and trump supporters liked it it's I don't care if they lose like you see that meme that was uh someone took a Bernie Sanders tweet
about giving people and they put Trump on it and Trump supporters liked it it's like maybe these
people like these Bernie supporters should look in the mirror and ask themselves now that their
candidate supports the establishment are they the baddies maybe the Trump supporters agreed with you
and a lot of important things about helping American workers and the American people
and you decided that the crony 47 year corrupt guy who was part of the Obama
administration is appointing all the wall street lobbyists.
You thought he was the right choice.
These people,
I honestly can't believe that we're at a time when the left would,
would vote out somebody who's bringing troops home from war.
Yeah.
There's a lot.
This is not the left that i remember there's a
lot of bad i feel really old but i mean we were out there protesting bush and protesting for free
speech and now they're like i don't know nathan b says tim given everything uh given everything i
honestly think trump has more information than we do and we're just waiting for everyone to essentially incriminate themselves
but they've been saying that over and over again
this Friday Trump's going to make a huge announcement, this is it
it's been this is it every day and admittedly
it's over every day as well
so the left is like, it's over today and Trump's right wing people are like
it's coming tomorrow, it's like okay, well
let me know when it's done.
Hey, when you said two thirds of the states, I don't think of the I think you're thinking of the electors and the governors.
I'm thinking of ratifying the Constitution.
I think about the people in those states.
If you want to ratify an amendment of the Constitution, you need two thirds of the states.
We just need two thirds of the population.
No, you need two thirds of states to vote.
The people that we think own us, dude, we own them.
They work for us.
In order to amend the Constitution, two-thirds of the states must vote to ratify the amendment.
And what do you need to get someone thrown out?
What do you need for a referendum?
How many people in a state are needed for a governmental referendum?
I have no idea.
Depends on the state.
Yeah.
Two-thirds?
Less than two-thirds?
Some states are actually commonwealth systems.
Some have general assemblies.
Some have official house representatives and stuff.
They're all different.
So the states, through their system and how they run, have to decide, we agree with this
officially and certify and stamp.
And then when two thirds do, boom, you get an amendment.
But they, the states, those are the people in the states.
Yeah. So if you can get those people to agree with you then we can move in in different states yeah you need two-thirds yeah and if their
government doesn't agree with them then throw the government out and put somebody in that does
so when you have california which is two-thirds you know it's yeah it's two-thirds democrat
you're not going to get them to agree to a conservative amendment and throw them out if
you've got enough conservative people.
You don't.
It's two-thirds Democrat.
Then forget about California.
Right.
So then when you go through all the states, we have right now 29 Republican and 21 Democrat.
Not enough to change the Constitution.
I don't need Republicans or Democrats, man.
It's not a partisan thing.
Yeah, it is.
The Federal Reserve's screwing all of us.
It doesn't matter.
You're right.
It's not a Democrat-Republican.
They're a uniparty, and they function for each other as the establishment to stay in
power.
That's the problem.
MAGA party.
Trump supporters need to form their own party and say, I feel like they're Republicans.
America first party.
Yeah.
I like it.
Yeah.
Storm Huffman says, I'll watch this later, but I wanted to ask Tim if he has a locals.com.
There's a TimCast page with no content.
I'd love to see it flourish.
Keep up the great work.
I do not. But we are going to be launching a new website with members-only content and hangout stuff
and Discord-type posting and photos and whatever.
And we're going to be working on a vlog.
So that's coming soon.
It's being built right now.
And once it's live, it'll be at Timcast.com.
And then you can go and hang out.
And it'll be exclusive content for members and stuff like that, and merchandise and all that fun stuff.
There's going to be a great scene of Alex Jones raiding my RV.
Yeah, we filmed Alex Jones, Luke Rakowski, Rude Awakening.
They hadn't seen each other in a long time.
I was taking a nap, and you let the gorilla into my RV.
Yes.
It was awkward.
It was weird.
It was really funny.
It was really funny.
We'll be in the vlog.
So there's a lot of stuff
like that too.
Like when we have guests come,
we usually hang out
with people for a little bit
and we like play games and stuff.
So there's going to be
a lot of vlog content
that'll be behind the scenes
for members.
So that's cool.
A lot of e-drama.
Yeah.
The Civic Nationalist says,
Tim, I warned you
about your country
about becoming Weimar Germany
and now you're going
to have three to five years
of lefty attacks
then a rise of right-wing
attacks.
It's not too long to rejoin the Commonwealth.
God save the Queen.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
I gotta tell you.
Let me tell you something really interesting.
I made this point when the alternate electors cast their votes, right?
So these are unofficial as far as anybody in the federal government cares.
What gave the founding fathers the authority to declare independence?
Quite literally, nothing.
A bunch of guns, the French government.
Yes, exactly.
Guns and more guns from the French government.
Yeah.
So it was interesting when I was reading about the signing of the Declaration of Independence,
there was one thing I was reading where they made a point that
in many
of these states, the people in the Continental Congress were appointed or elected in very
strange ad hoc ways that did not represent their states.
Like a lot of these states, they were loyal to the crown.
So all of a sudden, some dude is like, well, a bunch of people in my town and in various
parts have agreed that I should represent them to the Continental Congress, and we're
going to declare independence.
And you know what the opinion of the crown was?
By what authority do you non-parliamentarians, non-lords have to assert any legal claim at
all?
You're not representative.
You don't.
There's no such government exists.
They say we're the representatives of an American nation.
There's no nation.
You have no authority. Something interesting happened, though. It was a parliamentary
vote that I forgot what it was called, but it said that American ships were to be considered
enemy vessels. And that's when the founding fathers were like, they said it, not us.
They said our vessels are American vessels and enemies, therefore. So the thing is,
if there was no legal authority under the crown for these individuals
to claim their right to declare independence then if i see a bunch of electors in a state
state legislatures actual elected representatives saying we hereby vote i'm like okay well you can
claim they have no authority but authority is built upon the confidence of the people
so if something happens and people like trump supporters 74 million say these are the real
because we say so it's all about what you believe to be true. It doesn't matter if there's some system,
an official seal. If they have an official seal, too, I tell you this. If a guy woke up,
he came out of a cave. He had been asleep for 700 years. And then two people came up and said,
I'm the official government. Here's the seal from the Democrats. And someone said,
I'm the official government. Here's a seal from the Republicans. I don't know.
I don't know who is in charge. And that's it.
I'm not sure how to word this without getting in trouble. But I think I mean, Brett, my boyfriend
actually brought this up. But if people genuinely believe that the election was stolen and the
government is rigged and the will of the people no longer matters i don't know how you
are not morally obligated to fight and to have you know essentially ulysses s grant said it
that's what i that's what i was quoting before he says you know individuals who feel oppressed
by their government have a right you're morally obligated though if you believe if you're voting if you're sending separate electors and you're saying that your state's
election was was rigged and it was stolen from you then how how do you just sit down and say
oh well better not i'll vote harder next time you know you're morally obligated to fight at that
point i believe you know it'd be funny you heard how they called the republican states who did this
seditious well they said 17 republican states who did this seditious.
Well, they said 17 Republican states because of the lawsuit.
It's actually more.
It was 20.
And then you have 126 Republican members of the House who were supporting the lawsuit,
and they were called seditious.
It'd be funny if Trump says, because of this sedition from Republican states in these seven
states, I'm, you know, like declaring the Insurrection Act and postponing the inauguration.
And he uses the Republicans to find support of him as justification for active rebellion for which he can go in and shut everything down.
I'm kidding, by the way.
It would just be funny if that happened.
But that's why I'm saying at the very least there should be an America First Party or, you know, a constitutionalist party of some sort.
Or even a broad populist party if we had to.
I mean, there's a lot of overlap.
The unity party?
Somewhat.
The decentralized party?
If we had a Tulsi Trump parent.
You know that grant statement that you're putting your life
and your property on the line, basically,
if you really believe it.
It's kind of like saying certain things that violate YouTube's terms of
service involving fraud and Donald Trump that could actually get your video
pulled.
Like that's your property.
And that,
so if you really believe it,
your property,
you put it on the line,
it may be taken away from you.
So it's kind of,
I see that.
And then he also said,
and then you live,
you,
you run the risk of living under the rule of your conqueror.
Yeah.
The,
I think that the recipe for,
for a thing that you'll probably get TOS violations.
If we mentioned is,
is taking,
is having a whole bunch of people with nothing left to lose.
If you're taking away people's homes and their ability to see their families
and their jobs,
their businesses, what else do they have to lose?
They're going to stand up eventually.
This is what I said.
I read the quote from Ulysses S. Grant, and I said, if you're telling people that under
an oppressive government, they have to risk their life, their property, and their guarantees
as a citizen, but then you've taken away their right to life and their right to property,
you've made the choice for them already.
That's why we're seeing that town in Washington where they're like, GTFO, we're going to do whatever we want.
What's the government going to do?
Are they going to send in state troopers?
Never going to happen.
What's the quote when, I think it goes, when the people who want to be left alone get involved?
How does it continue?
I don't know.
I forget.
I'm not familiar.
Sorry.
We've got to read more Super Chats, though.
Interesting premise.
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but even if this is not read,
please know that you are dearly appreciated by many of us
for your coverage and honesty.
We have serious times to come,
and the nation needs you now more than ever.
Thank you.
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Thank you for your comments.
Daniel Maxwell says,
To successfully challenge the Electoral College votes,
Congress will need to have presented to them
a preponderance of
the evidence that supports the contesting of the votes from the contested states.
I believe they probably will.
All right, let's see.
Burke in a box says in G.A. due to the lack of testicular fortitude the GOP has, I'm not
voting.
You are not alone, Cassandra.
McConnell may have just encouraged me to vote Dem.
Registered Republicans voting Dem hurts them more than not voting at all.
Oh, yeah. That's brutal. I don't know if I would go that far.
I don't know. Why not? I'm seeing a lot of accelerationism from Republicans saying,
vote for, why not? Because then you'll get more regular people forced into the fight. That's what
people have always been saying. Shake the system up more and more and more.
Yeah.
Free men die free, says the DNC GOP is one big party.
The Libertarian Party is the only authentic second party at this point.
McConnell stabbing you should be your wake up.
Repubs owe Libertarians after Ron Paul being cheated.
Yeah, Ron Paul would have been a way better president than anybody we've had in the past couple decades.
Yeah.
Libertarian Party is a joke, though.
It's very cringey.
Wayne's DIY Garage says,
Regarding Green Deal,
I believe Cali wants to outlaw cows
because dairy require a lot of H2O that could go to LA.
Articles about methane heating up the atmosphere.
I feel they want to blame the farmer, not the cities,
without saying they want to take the water.'ll be really funny when the green new deal
like something happens and they're like no more farting cows and stuff and then people are like
we're hungry and there's no food no i wouldn't be surprised though zip tie says tim is it possible
given the uptick in violent clashes breaking out across the country that we have entered the
bleeding kansas stage i don't know what that? Do you guys know what that is?
Nope.
That sounds like a Civil War thing.
Probably.
You want to Google it?
Bleeding Kansas.
Yeah.
Ryan Brown says, stop misleading people about Oath Keepers.
They are not a militia and never have been.
They have current military members.
Correct yourself.
Well, there you go.
It's just Oath Keepers are listed everywhere as a militia.
So I don't know how to describe it.
And as far as I can tell, I've had Oath Keepers actually say I was correct.
So whatever.
The Bleeding Kansas, Bloody Kansas, or Border War was a series of violent civil confrontations
in Kansas Territory, United States between 1854 and 1859.
Oh, my battery died on my camera.
Can you still hear me?
Yeah, we can hear you. Listen to this. Yeah, it was early on, 1854 and 1859. Oh, my battery died on my camera. Can you still hear me? Yeah, we can hear you.
Listen to this.
Yeah, it was early on, 1854 to 1859,
and emerged from political ideological debate
over the legality of slavery in the proposed state of Kansas.
I'm going to plug that back in.
Now we know.
Son Cormac says, Ian, 2024.
No.
It was based on what you said about those states it's the battery that we never
we got to plug the yeah we don't plug the camera sorry guys we moved everything ian saying those
those that that horrible phrase no no lou exito says the answer to political parties becoming
corrupt is not more political parties the The answer should actually be the opposite.
I think we should outlaw state sponsorship of parties.
No federal funds.
No parties on the ballot.
I'm not opposed to that.
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.
Maybe it might be a free speech issue.
But you know what?
You can have your political party.
You just can't get funding and you can't.
It's not gonna be on the ballot for political party.
Then people look at the ballot and they see names.
No parties.
That's kind of that's a good point. It's kind of crazy that people look and they say, oh, for a political party. I like that. Then people look at the ballot and they see names. No parties.
That's a good point.
It's kind of crazy that people look and they say, oh, that's a Democrat?
Check.
Yeah.
Why don't we just get rid of parties off ballots?
That solves a lot of the problems.
Yeah, there was a satanic anarchist.
Trans woman.
Trans woman that was elected just like that. As a Republican sheriff.
As a Republican because no one even looked into her.
They just saw Republicans.
It was a Republican primary.
Yes.
Yeah. In New Hampshire.
I think that works back in, Lydia.
Okay.
Let me know if you see it.
Who was talking about me in Super Chat?
What'd they say?
They said, Ian 2024.
You guys want to do something?
Because you made comments about white states.
Yes.
They're making a joke.
Oh, no.
No.
Yep.
XD Interactive says, Luke, I preach preach that that is how the nation was designed california can be
socialist texas capitalist one defense people are allowed to move between decentralization yeah
evan oh three grimes says first time super chatter for mississippi red states would be
would be the third world country we have all all the farmland, hunting land, and the Gulf Coast.
Conservatism is all about independence.
Harumph.
Yes.
You go to a conservative, and he's a guy who lives in the rural area, and he hunts, and he is very isolated from big cities.
He's going to be like, and?
You're going to have to fend for yourself and hunt your own food.
Yeah, I did that last night.
Yeah.
And?
What am I complaining about?
My neighbor has like 60 gallons of apple apple cider for nice yeah that's amazing i'm like i'm
coming over when we're we we here are almost entirely off the grid yeah almost entirely but
even like getting internet satellite satellites actually really improving no joke like the other
day when the internet cut out we switched to satellite and it sometimes is shaky but we've actually been able to get you know um high def streams
the satellite's five megabits up like kind of the bare minimum to get a good stream out but
it's totally doable let's see ismail thompson says cassandra is speaking my language the creation of
the republic will be the proudest day of my life probably because i'm texan well there you go let's see what else we got here matthew recant thanks for that big old
super chat appreciate it our committee says so it's okay for ca to tell the country you aren't
allowed guns but texas can't bring up concerns on the election i think they can i think they
absolutely should yeah one of the issues is we have a constitution, right? So if California says we don't allow guns, then is it incumbent upon the other states to, like, invade California to enforce the constitution?
Who?
I don't know.
No.
Well, hold on, hold on.
Ulysses S. Grant, in that writing, he made a really good point.
He said, I'll paraphrase it.
The original 13 colonies could have left at any time.
They had an agreement to come together because of the revolution.
But with the ratification of the constitution among the 13 colonies, everything changed.
These colonies paid through blood and treasure to get new states into the union.
So there's almost essentially a debt.
It's a contract.
You want to be in the union?
You want access to our funds and our defense?
We've paid for that with blood and treasure.
So now you can't leave. If we have a contract between all these different states about their agreement to enter and the resources we paid to get them in and they say, but you know,
that, that, that founding document contract I agreed to, to join, I'm going to give it a big
old middle finger. Then we say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We have an agreement.
You came into this country as a state. You can't now disregard the agreement that we have because we paid for this it would be like
a brace i'm breaking a contract are you like you you know i say i want to uh you know work with you
ian and then you say okay i'll pay you a thousand bucks up front to work with my company and then i
go you know what actually i'm not gonna abide by the rules of our actual contract. I'm going to do my own thing. You're going to be like, dude, I paid you.
You can't do that later. I'm leaving. No, you can't leave. Give me my money. You owe me.
So I think if these states want to break the rules, but we had to pay,
I defer to Ulysses S. Grant and we should enforce the constitution somehow.
That's a thought.
Yeah. I mean, we kind of do, right? The Supreme Court will say you're in violation of the First
Amendment and then marshals
or whatever happen to go in.
But you look at what Cuomo is doing right now.
He bans churches.
What happens?
Supreme Court says you can't do it.
He goes, fine, whatever.
I'll do a new executive order and do it anyway.
You look at Gretchen Whitmer.
Michigan said you can't do these things.
She goes, well, I can do it anyway, and I'll use a different law if I have to.
Just like, if you're told you can't do something, you can't just look at a different piece of paper but that says i can do it now it's like no it was already you already
it was already ruled against you poo poo 25 26 says i'm down for divorce except who owns uh who
own and runs the military if we divide then i feel it will weaken the country as a whole and make us
vulnerable to other countries taking over our country then we lose anyways you can have a joint
defense pact saying if we get an attack we'll work together that's it but the problem but then who's
who's who's the commander for the military um for like who's who's in charge of the military
you switch roles uh every four years it's once it's one particular state no it won't work another
one because if you have two different countries two different interests and then there's a battle
over water rights whoever's in charge of the military is going to oppress the one who doesn't have access.
Well, each state would have their own military, and each state would have their own kind of national guard.
Maybe the same as how we handle Canada.
Yeah.
Like, if North America was getting attacked, we would work with Canada, and we would defend North America.
Exactly.
Same thing.
But what happens if you know
canada starts encroaching on american territory like it doesn't really happen but yeah yeah but
between the states it's different and make fun of trudeau's socks like so so listen cry and run away
if if there was a peaceful divorce there are some businesses and properties that cross state lines
you know people who might own property like on one plot and then another plot in different state or
something or bodies of water.
What happens if someone in Mississippi is like they're polluting our water in the other country?
Whoever has the military then will enforce it.
And if you don't, they're going to be like, we don't care.
It's our water, not yours.
Screw off.
Ascendant Media says we need to establish a regional level of governance between state and federal.
I was thinking about that for a long time.
You know, like what if we had another level of governance between state and federal. I was thinking about that for a long time.
What if we had another level of government, like Northeast, Southeast, Midwest, Northwest,
Southwest?
And then they had regional.
The reason I was thinking about that is because we're supposed to have 30,000 to 50,000 people per congressman.
Instead, we have 750,000 because they're like, we just can't keep making it bigger, I guess,
but population is expanding.
Okay.
What if we created another level?
Regional governance.
Maybe not an answer.
I don't know.
Maybe more government isn't the solution.
I think that having like nine Supreme Court judges ruling over the entire thing is not – it's too few people for the amount of people they're trying to represent.
That's an argument for packing the courts.
And if that happens, then we are definitely going to end up seeing this.
The reason the reason why we shouldn't change.
Yeah, the reason why we shouldn't change Supreme Court is because it would turn justices into
essentially popular elected officials again, like any other position, but they just have
more power than a senator.
So it makes no sense.
Why would like, like, limiting the number and having to be based on who the president is and the Senate is a check on how someone gets in the Supreme Court?
Why would like a Northeastern court judge get to decide what happens in the Southwest?
What do you mean?
They wouldn't.
Yeah.
Like the judges, they preside over the entire country.
The circuits.
So the Supreme Court is all of the justices from all the different circuits coming together and then agreeing or disagreeing.
But it's only like nine people.
Right.
Because we have 13 circuits, but two are like, you know, it's like D.C. and then like the federal jurisdiction of some sort.
But these circuits don't like appoint a judge.
The president picks a random person that.
And the president has to have the Senate behind him.
So if the Senate does not agree with the president, then nothing changes in the Supreme Court.
And we've actually had periods where we had like five Supreme Court justices because of the dispute between senators and the president.
Only when the president and the Senate align do you get new justices.
Or if the Democrats want to change the rules.
How do the judges like relate to the circuit the of the 13
circuits the circuits are different regions right so like uh what's the first or like main i think
so that judge is the emergency appellate judge for that area so he has to pick someone from that area
to be that circuit no yeah he can pick anyone from someone from texas and then make them the main
judge well they get their assignments so for uh the court i i think i don't i don't know i think the supreme court
like they come together and they decide their assignments for like what what where they go
it might be presidential assignment i'm not sure but right now i think the justices basically are
in charge of the circuits where they were federal judges so i guess theoretically you could take a
rant you could take a rant.
You could appoint anybody at the Supreme Court.
Like, that's why they said, you know, Joe Biden should choose or, you know, Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton would choose Obama if she won or whatever.
Because you could pick anybody.
The point of the nomination process is that the president decides who should be a judge
and the Supreme Court, I'm sorry, the Senate confirms to make sure it's not some like random
dude who's like, you know, like a bus driver or something who has no idea what he's doing.
But there has to be that alignment, you know.
L. Jesus says, I don't think the gold standard is enough, but we have other metals to back
the dollar with.
JFK tried to back the dollar with silver in his day.
Interesting.
He is, he was, you know, not alive after a certain point.
The silverbacks.
I still remember that.
Some $5 bills actually still have that on them. Yeah. But that's from way after a certain point. The silverbacks. I still remember those. Some $5 bills actually still have that on them.
Yeah.
But that's from way back in the day.
The silver certificates?
Yes.
Yeah, that was before we got off the gold standard.
Yeah, special JFK, I think, $5 notes.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Green Third Eye says, in my opinion, Assange and Snowden both should rot in Gitmo.
There isn't one law-abiding citizen that has benefited from the information they leaked.
Putin and Xi Jinping, however have been benefited immensely why you have some idiotic super chatters what an absolute moron julian assange didn't break any laws i've been if so
why should he go to prison and there's been plenty of americans who benefited including
president donald trump and the oh absolutely trump won partly because of this and also the
family of the people who were killed in in collateral murder for instance and all the
americans who had a chance to to see how the political process actually works those bernie
bros that got screwed i'm sure that they appreciated it hillary's emails wasn't that all wiki leaks
yeah the dnc leaks the dccc no no the d triple C wasn't WikiLeaks, was it? It was Guccifer.
Yeah.
Jason Schmidt says, read, read 50 bucks in response to Divorce of the Nation.
All of his work has been scrubbed from most of the mainstream podcasts.
But John Mark Kurt Doolittle have given ideas on how to successfully disentangle the nation.
Please get the word out.
Well, I don't know about all that, but I'll read you Super Chat.
Paul Stern, Paul Sem says, Cassandra is one of the coolest guests you guys have on your show.
She is chill and she is so passionate with what she believes.
She's a fun follow on Twitter as well because of the fights she picks.
Yes, that's true.
You pick a lot of fights.
I do.
It's what Twitter is for.
It makes it so fun.
Thomas Prendergast says, hey, Tim, I think you're looking at the divorce in an incorrect way.
Stop think on red states, red state, blue state,
and start thinking about urban versus rural.
Allow them to create a democratic alliance of city states,
and we keep our republic.
But then those city states would just collapse overnight
because they have no resources.
I think it's funny that...
Then we could have the Hunger Games and let one of them out per year.
I'm a little demented.
The bridges have all been shut off.
You mentioned creating new rural
land, and I thought of the word sub-rural.
Like we have suburban, you know?
Sub-rural? Yeah, sub-rural areas.
No, they all need to stay out of the rural areas.
You city dwellers, stay.
City folk.
Tyler Mills says, I used to be a neocon
prior to Assange collateral murder was
the video that red pilled me on the political realm that combined with ron paul's farewell
speech to congress ron paul was legit is legit and ran paul i like him too abe says why would
the well it just jumped on me how you gonna play me like that youtube ryu curito says i like how
tim pool sounds like the character edgar farmer skin suit alien and
men in black when imitating mitch mcconnell that's kind of the point sugar water also cast should
check out viva phrase live stream on sunday with robert barnes i think she'd like it we'll make a
note let's see leila zero says you should look up the quote of Benjamin Gates, Nicolas Cage, and National
Treasure reading the portion of the Declaration of Independence. It states man's right and
responsibility to stand against tyranny. National Treasure is a fun movie. The Chief Has Spoken
says collateral murder is a crap story. That was my unit on the ground. Media used a story from
one dishonorable soldier, McCord, who has been discredited by all other soldiers there
media only pushed one story and hid all the others i wouldn't be surprised if they pushed
one story and hit all the others but uh i mean there's a video of them killing a bunch of people
is it you know snoops net says tim the difference between free speech and flying uh the isis and
blm flags is the groups those flags have come to represent imply the threat of violence against those around them.
It's not free speech.
It's territory marking.
I agree.
I think it's like gang signs.
I honestly I am the most pro free speech person generally, but I see them as actual threats like i don't those flags represent you wanting to take away my right to
free speech and my safety and the safety of the community that's in if you know they say the same
thing about the american flag and about the original 13 colony flag and the gadsden flag
yeah and so then maybe there's conflict coming because nobody agrees yeah and i am down and like
i can't even say what I actually think
because I will be censored off of all of social media. But I think people can assume what you
really mean. They can assume. Yeah. I think we want to live in peace. And we want to be able to
take care of our families. But I think the easiest way to put it is, you know, I've been reading
about the American Revolution. I've been reading about the American Revolution.
I've been reading about the Civil War.
And I love that quote from the movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson, where I think they're in South Carolina and they vote to go to war.
And he says, mark my words, this will not be fought on some far off battlefield, far, far away battlefield.
It'll be fought in our homes, in our towns.
Our children will learn of it with their own eyes. And I i'm like that's what a lot of people don't realize
so i i say that to antifa because you know what joe rogan there's a quote from joe rogan it's
brilliant he says there's how many veterans they have in this country like millions these are guys
who actually know what war is like and know what's going to happen and these are the people who are
saying no you don't want they'll be like strapping bombs to drones and flying them through your bedroom window
it's just terror you do not want that the the yeah the level of technology at this point is
going to be nightmarish but brogan made a really interesting point that these far leftists like
antifa are trying are smashing away at the floodgates trying to break them down and the
dudes on the other side the veterans theists, the people who actually know what conflict is like and know how to survive, they're waiting,
and you do not want that floodgate pouring out. I'm not worried. I don't like it.
Divorce right now, that would be the best resolution, but I don't think that's going
to happen. And I don't think that we can coexist with people who we find morally reprehensible.
I find the left morally disgusting and reprehensible,
and they find me morally disgusting and reprehensible.
I don't know how you have a cohesive union that way.
So instead of fighting, peaceful divorce.
That's what I've been saying from the very beginning.
A lot of people have.
And I have to say, I covered some conflict in my day,
and every time I do it, everyone involved regrets it.
Everyone.
Barrel of fun says how can you guys possibly advocate for people not voting in ga and still be concerned about packing
the court if dems have president senate in house the courts will be packed yep and i'm not advocating
for people not to vote in georgia i am just saying that yeah that wasn't you well so my thing is like
clear side is did you think the Supreme Court
was going to back Trump
and his legal challenges?
Well, then why do you care?
I thought that they would actually.
I was surprised.
Yeah.
Well, it was because
even if they didn't,
when it came to Texas,
the question was whether or not
they believe that
they are obligated
to take up the suits
on original jurisdiction
between states.
Right.
And the three Trump appointees
were what we needed to know.
Alito and Thomas agreed we must, the Supreme Court must take these cases.
But it was Gorsuch, Gorsuch, how do you pronounce it, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Coney Barrett.
We didn't know how they'd rule.
And they all said, nope, we have no obligation to take this case.
That's what happens when Trump takes, well, Trump took advice from neocons and snakes
and rhinos the whole entire time.
And, you know, he appointed
people like Bolton. He appointed people
like Mattis.
And then
we're supposed to be surprised that the people
that he got lifetime appointments
on the Supreme Court are not going to have his
back back. I mean... Yep. Did you guys
like Steve Bannon? Yeah.
I don't really have an opinion
from me the wrong way i think he's all right yeah i like him a lot better than pompeo or
bolton yeah yeah yeah bolton was like laughably bad like wow people kept saying i was anti-trump
because i was like no uh mattis and bolton and gina haspel and all these people are very bad
look at how they used to cheer for Bill Barr and now they hate Bill Barr.
Yeah.
Right?
Trump is always right.
That's, you know, to his most fervent supporters.
Yeah.
And then anybody who does oppose him is wrong.
Yeah.
They're good, you know.
And Trump's the same thing, too.
He'll be like, he's a great guy.
I love him.
He's the best.
We're bringing him on.
And then the month later when he fires him, he's just terrible.
He was the worst.
Everybody agrees.
Well, Trump should have fired more people.
That's for sure.
Yeah.
Throne Net says, Theron Net says, Tim tim in the fallout universe the u.s created another level of
government between the states and federal government called commonwealths and split the
u.s into 13 commonwealths interesting accurate music says when you said there should be an
america first or constitutionalist party agreed however the constitutionalist party does exist
check them out i think they just need
support i whatever vote for not these people i guess man maybe voting is not the answer maybe
being responsible for yourself maybe taking charge of your own existence and not looking for government
to intervene in every little way maybe that will be the way that we could move forward from this
in a peaceful resolution without demanding or pushing a gun on anyone.
Imagine if, you know, where's Mitch McConnell?
Is he Kentucky?
Tennessee?
Kentucky?
Kentucky, yeah.
Okay, imagine if the people who were there were like, why would we vote for Mitch McConnell?
And they voted for a different Republican.
A Republican who actually supported the president.
And right now, instead of saying, you know, don't support the president, even symbolically.
You got somebody who was like, I think you should at least give Donald Trump your your strong recommendation and fight for him, even if it means we go down fighting.
Imagine if that's someone they voted for and said they vote for the turtle guy.
You know what?
It's because people walk in and they go, um, R.D.
Definitely are.
Who's the R?
Like like you brought up that the trans Satanist anarchists won the Republican primary because they didn't think twice.
They're just like, Republican.
Yep, and they wanted to recall their election.
Maybe we just take political parties off the ballot.
I was just thinking that.
You can be in a political party.
You can fundraise for your political party.
You can do all that normal stuff.
But on the ballot, no one can see D.R.R.
They see names.
Just a bunch of names.
Or an intelligence test before voting.
Yes.
I don't agree with that.
I'm joking.
I think people are allowed to be dumb.
I'm being satirical.
No, they're allowed to be dumb,
but they should not necessarily be allowed to vote if they're dumb.
Back in ancient Greece and Rome, I believe it was,
they discussed how voting was a very serious responsibility
and that it takes years and years to prepare to be able to vote.
And then we're just like, here, you want to vote, child?
You're 18, kid.
Take it away.
Now they want 16-year-olds to vote?
No.
Low-information voters are the lifeblood of the Democratic Party.
Yeah.
Hands down.
Anyway.
Can't even drink alcohol yet, but here you go.
Decide the fate of our country.
Yeah.
Or die for it.
Yeah.
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