Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #190 - Conservative Protesters BEAR MACE COPS, COVID Bill Has People PISSED w/ Sean Parnell

Episode Date: December 23, 2020

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host friend Sean Parnell for a conversation about military service,  the recent news of Covid-19 relief legislation, China, and the potential for civil war.  Support the show (ht...tp://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A couple days ago, there were a bunch of conservatives, Trump supporters, typically a right-wing group of protesters in Oregon. The governor had convened a meeting, I believe it was the governor, but it was at the state capitol building. And this right-wing group came out because they have a legal right to attend a public hearing. We do. We are a government for, of, and by the people, so if there's going to be a public hearing, you walk in the building and you listen to what they're saying. Most people don't know this too. You can go to, you can go to DC. You can go into the Capitol, but like the Congress building, the Senate buildings, you can walk around and walk into a congressperson's office. You just open the door and walk right in. Well, these Trump supporters, these conservatives, they show up and what ends up happening? There's a row of police telling them they can't actually come in.
Starting point is 00:00:48 At some point, I guess chaos ensued. And the most interesting thing about all of it was that the Trump supporting group, someone in this group, bear maced the cops. Now, that's something you don't even really see all that often from Antifa. And so the story is from a couple of days ago. And I just find it absolutely fascinating with everything that's going on. And more importantly, that we have this coronavirus spending bill, $900 billion. The total omnibus spending bill was like 2.3, which included this. And it's famously providing $10 million to Pakistan for gender programs. That's exactly what the American people have been begging for with where their tax dollars would go
Starting point is 00:01:24 in an unprecedented crisis where their businesses have been completely and totally destroyed. And that's why I'm bringing these two stories together and bringing up this protest from the past few days. To see right wing groups attack police in any capacity tells you that the wick or that the line of powder leading to that powder keg has been lit and conservatives aren't going to be taking all that much longer. Seeing Trump supporters start criticizing police and mock them instead of defend them when they when you hear defund the police. Well, that's interesting. The establishment needed at least that level of support from Trump supporters. So we're going to talk about all this.
Starting point is 00:02:01 We'll talk about a lot of stuff going on with the covid hypocrisy. Dr. Birx retiring because she's violating her own lockdowns. It is hypocrisy all the way down. We have an awesome guest. Sean Parnell is hanging out. Do you want to explain? Some people are listening, so they can't hear. They can't see you.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Oh, I thought there was like a camera and stuff. People were like, well, I'm here. I'm excited to be here. You know, I'm excited to be here. Definitely. Definitely. I've been watching your journey, you know, and watching withizon trying to get the internet hooked up yeah that's been a saga in and of itself right but been impossible yeah we live in we live in very very strange times
Starting point is 00:02:32 uh you know the the attacks in in oregon were something that we haven't seen before uh you know tim we we were talking a little bit before the show i feel i feel bad for for the police because i feel like they've been put in an impossible situation. You know, the police in Pennsylvania, though, one of the things that I've been advocating for for quite some time now, and I say it over and over when I'm out, is that government derives its power from the consent of the governed. And what I've been saying both publicly and on social media for some time now is that
Starting point is 00:03:09 we simply need to disobey these unconstitutional lockdowns. In other words, keep your small business open. Nonviolent civil disobedience. Keep your restaurant open. And if you're a police officer that finds yourself in a tough position, and boy, anytime they put a gun on their hip and they wear a badge, they wear that badge on their chest. Anytime they leave their family, they put themselves out there for us every day, and they deserve our gratitude for that. But if you're a cop and you're put in a tough position to shut down a small business or close a restaurant, simply don't obey an unconstitutional order.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Indeed, when you're in the military, you know, people think that soldiers just obey every command that's given down to them. No, we have a duty and obligation to disobey orders that are not moral, right, or that violate the Constitution. And so what I've been calling for in Pennsylvania is civil disobedience from small businesses and restaurants and the police, you know, state troopers, sheriffs, local municipal cops just simply disobey unconstitutional orders. And all of this ends tomorrow. Just done.
Starting point is 00:04:11 But, Tim, this does not mean that we're not going to take COVID seriously. This does not mean that we're not going to follow CDC guidelines. This does not mean that we're not going to protect the vulnerable. No, no. What I'm talking about is entirely separate. lines this does not mean that we're not going to protect a vulnerable no no not that what i'm talking about is entirely separate what i i believe that we should trust people uh we should put faith and trust in people to assess what level of risk is tolerable for them right well and respect their individual rights absolutely we we we are not a country of kings or of a king.
Starting point is 00:04:47 This is a country founded upon the idea that the individual would choose what's best and their rights must be respected. Absolutely. For those that don't know who Sean is, how would you describe yourself? You're a politician. Don't say that about me. Don't say that. Oh, man. Every time someone calls me a politician, I throw up in my mouth a little bit.
Starting point is 00:05:05 But yeah. But you ran for office. So you're a politician. I did. I'm just messing with you. Yeah. I ran for office, even though it wasn't my idea. President Trump called me out randomly at a speech in western Pennsylvania to run.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Before that, I was doing charity work. I was a small part of a charity that gives service dogs to veterans who come home from war. Poured myself into that did 35 to 50 public events a year all over the country giving away dogs uh it's kind of an amazing thing to behold because dogs really do provide tangible healing value to people who suffered greatly from ptsd uh whether it's in the military or remember that guy you were talking about he uh he was a journalist and he went to a range and he yes he fired the ar-15 and then claimed he got ptsd maybe we should get him like a pug or a yorkshire terrier or something some little small lap dog in the pomeranian make him feel better yeah yeah we're gonna put him on the list we're gonna we have we have to put him on the list get him a dog and so but i also i also write uh i write books i write stories and before
Starting point is 00:06:02 i before i um uh jumped into politics and this this crazy war that we're in political war that we're in i was in hollywood trying to sell screenplays and stories for for books i mean and so i was medically retired luck now yeah as a republican yeah i know i know you know there are good there are good people in hollywood there are there are good producers or good writers that, that sort of believe the same things that we do. And before any of that, before I was, I was an infantryman in the army, went to ranger school, went to airborne school, and then went to Afghanistan for 16 months of heavy
Starting point is 00:06:37 combat, the longest combat deployment in global war and terror history where 85% of my men were wounded. Some twice. I think one dude was wounded three times. Six of my troops weren't even citizens of this country when they served. Northerners serving next to Southerners, Black next to White, Christians next to atheists. I mean, we were the most diverse infantry platoon that you could possibly imagine. And it was my job as a 24-year-old kid to sort of be the platoon leader, even though
Starting point is 00:07:03 as a platoon leader, you though, uh, as a platoon leader, you're not really in charge of anything. You know, I had non-commissioned officers and soldiers who were probably 30, 30 years old, 40 years old, who had a heck of a lot more experience than I did. Um, some of whom had multiple combat deployments. So what I try to do as a young leader was just, you know, show up at my unit yeah i had i had the cool sexy schools that the army required of a position of platoon leader in light infantry but just have big eyes big ears be humble self-effacing and just listen to those experienced non-commissioned officers who are the real door kickers uh in combat and let them teach coach and mentor me
Starting point is 00:07:39 on what they thought was a servant leader and so that's sort of been what I've been doing my entire adult life. I don't know if you wanted an answer as in-depth as that. That was very good. That's great, yeah. I basically gave you my whole life story. One thing I've said often is that probably the biggest factor, if I'm looking at a politician to vote for, is if they served in the military,
Starting point is 00:07:57 whatever branch, some kind of service. That's a prize. Really, that's important to you? Absolutely. And even as somebody who grew up in Chicago, I think growing up in Chicago actually brought me to that. But I come from a military family for the most part. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:08:11 My dad was a Marine. My grandpa was a Marine, World War II. He trained dogs. My brother was in the Army. My sister, she married somebody in the Army. That was a while ago, though. Tim, do you want to know why I think it's important? I look at whether you're a Democrat, Republican, independent, if you've served in the military, it means that you at some point in time in your life, you put your country before yourself. You put your country before your family.
Starting point is 00:08:34 You put your country before your own life or making a buck. And something about that, the idea of putting your country first, not for money, either. Not for money. No, I mean, not for money. You put your country first, not for money, either not for money. No, I mean, not for money. You put your country first, you take that oath. And again, whether you're a Democrat or Republican, the hope is, is that, you know, should you win some political office, and you find yourself in Washington, that you can work with the other side, you can put your country first and do what's best on behalf of the people, which is why this COVID relief bill, I think, was just – it just did such a disservice.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I have issues with this bill on a – We'll save it because we're supposed to be just doing the intro, but it was getting good. I don't know how the show is structured. I just like work here. Let me say one thing too. I've drank a lot of these things too. Because we're supposed to mention Ian and Lydia are here as well. Ian's here as well. Yes, hello. But I'll just say one thing, too. I've drank a lot of these things, too. Because we're supposed to mention Ian and Lydia are here as well. Ian's here as well.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Yes, hello. But I'll just say one thing. There's two important things I think about. Well, I'll say there's three things why I think military service is probably the best. If I had two people and one person and they're both running and one at military service, I'd probably vote for them. So there's three things. First and foremost, especially if you have combat experience, but regardless, you have basic training. You've toughened up. You've exercised. You've taken yourself seriously. The second thing is not everybody who joins the military is doing it for some noble cause because I briefly lived on a military base. My sister was living at Fort Carson in Colorado. And so I met a lot of people who were like, I needed a job. You know what I mean? But there are a lot of people who are like, I wanted to do something, something bigger than myself. I wanted to help. I want to be, you know, help my country, help my people. And they're not
Starting point is 00:10:11 doing it to try and get rich because you're not going to get rich doing it. But I'll tell you what, one of the best things is too, is you probably have a disdain for bureaucracy after getting out. Absolutely. And in fact, in fact i i personally believe one of the the main responsibilities of a leader in in garrison before you go to war is to be sort of like a filter like of the bureaucracy the bureaucracy is going to pour a lot of stuff on you and your job as a leader is to filter out what matters make sure that your troops can focus on the mission and training on whatever weapon system that they have or whatever duty position that they have. It's interesting. Like why I, why I joined the military is, you know, I don't come from a long line of, you know, military leaders or military members in my
Starting point is 00:10:53 family. I was a sophomore in college and elementary education at Clarion university, which is a, uh, small, uh, university in Western Pennsylvania and elementary education major. Right. Um, did, but didn't really know what I wanted to do with my life. I was like most sophomores in college and that I just, you know, I wasn't sure that maybe being in a classroom with kids eight hours a day for the rest of my life was really what I wanted to do, even though I knew I wanted to serve in some way,
Starting point is 00:11:18 give back to the community. And I remember having a conversation with my roommates thinking like, well, my God, like our, like our generation at the time, we didn't really like have a moment. Right. Like you had like the Cold War before us and you had contingency operations in Panama and then you had Desert Storm. But like our generation was really a golden age, you know, the post-Clinton era of a balanced budget where Democrats and Republicans work together. Like we didn't really want for anything growing up from as a kid, even though I was from a middle class family and my parents
Starting point is 00:11:47 lived paycheck to paycheck. I mean, I had a pretty good carefree life. And I remember having this discussion with my roommates and then we had this big party over the weekend. And I remember waking up on my on this rundown college couch one day surrounded by Iron City beer cans. I feel like we had come off the bender of a lifetime and there were like cigarette butts out all around us and stuff and
Starting point is 00:12:08 i remember sitting up and the world was spinning i had this hangover of a lifetime and i remember staggering over to the television set and turning it on and watching it flicker to life just in time to see an airplane crash into the world trade centers and you know i i feel like in that moment my life was just i mean i would just remember staggering a few steps back and sitting on that rundown couch just transfixed to that television set of just images of just raw horror of innocent americans dying on live television remember watching people tumble from those towers and land on the sidewalk or people who were lucky enough to survive that fateful day, stagger out of that wreckage, covered
Starting point is 00:12:49 firefighters who ran into the building. And that was it. Tim, that was what did it for me is watching how the first responders reacted. The police officers, firefighters are just ordinary American citizens with no training whatsoever, run into the flames instead of running away from them. And I remember thinking as a college kid, how can I sit here and do nothing when ordinary American citizens are giving everything for people that they didn't know?
Starting point is 00:13:11 And anybody that lived through that day knows that most people who ran into those towers that day to save people never came out again with their life. And that was it. I mean, two days later, I was down at the recruiter's office, told him I'd want to join the infantry, and not just that, go to airborne school, and days later, I was down at the recruiter's office, told him I wanted to join the infantry. And not just that, go to airborne school. And not just that, go to ranger school.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And then I went home to talk to my parents about the decision. It was kind of crazy. And I remember getting in this big argument with my father as we were driving back to Clarion. It was like a 45-minute drive back to the university. And he was trying to convince me, look, you got two years left to school, just stay in school,
Starting point is 00:13:49 go in as an officer. And at the time, I mean, I didn't know the difference between, you know, it's good advice. So isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Yeah. I mean, I didn't know the difference between a non-commissioned officer enlisted versus officer. And I mean, I was arguing because I wanted to get in the fight right now. We had just been attacked. And I remember like my, my dad was just relentless. And I remember, I was arguing because I wanted to get in the fight right now. We had just been attacked. And I remember my dad was just relentless.
Starting point is 00:14:08 And I remember looking at my dad and I remember saying to him, Dad, what the heck have you ever done to be proud of in your life? I just want to serve my country. And he didn't say anything in return. And I was like, uh-oh, I really know I crossed the line here. And the car just got quiet for about 10 minutes. And my dad that's looked at me and he goes, Well, I have four things that I'm proud of every day. You know, you, your younger sister and your two younger brothers. And I was like, Oh, I really screwed up, you know. And so I took his advice, stayed in as an officer or stayed in college, came out as an officer and graduated from college in 2004, Duquesne University in the heart of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and was immediate active duty and just got thrown into the fray.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Two years later, I was in Afghanistan, college kid to combat veteran in two years. Wow. As a commissioned officer, though. As a commissioned officer, Brand new second lieutenant. Went to my officer basic course. Went to airborne school. Went to ranger school. Ranger school was absolute hell.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I failed the first time through, but begged the brigade commander to let me stay, who tried to kick me out. He's like, you're out of here, ranger. And I'm like, I ain't going anywhere, sir. No, seriously, ranger. Pack your stuff and get out of here. I'm like, no, seriously, sir. I'm not going anywhere. So he let me stay in these barracks for three weeks and wait for the next class to start.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Ranger school is divided into three phases, like the Georgia phase, the mountain phase, and the swamp phase in Florida. All of them are horrible. I went into ranger school, 225 pounds, running six minute and 32nd miles, the best shape of my life. I came out of ranger school, 160 pounds. Wow. Cause you're marching probably 20 miles a day. You're not sleeping. They've got to give you three hours of sleep a night, but it doesn't have to be concurrent. So it'd be five minutes here, five minutes there.
Starting point is 00:15:52 And you just don't eat. You just don't eat. It's, it's, it's, it's absolutely horrible. And it's supposed to be, the school was meant to train you on small unit tactics under extreme
Starting point is 00:16:02 duress. So can you lead while you're starving and have and have no sleep by the end of that school feel free to come over here when the apocalypse starts i'll defer to you you tell me what to do tim i i well first of all of course i i'll do that in a second uh this place is sweet but i i was not i mean i relied on my ranger buddies to get me through i mean we we all i mean they have cool, they have this thing at the end of every phase. At the end of the Georgia phase, which is sort of like where they, the rap Ranger assessment phase, which is like, like similar to Navy SEAL, like Hell Week, you know, where they put you through that. And like, they put you through all these sorts of assessments, like drown proofing, you know, five mile run, PT test, the Malvesti pit, which is like, just like, it was just miserable.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And at the end of that, you do a 20 mile. They call it the March of Unknown. It's like sort of a March of Unknown distance. You just march to Darby. But the reality is they just march you forever. Yeah. And you arrive. I mean, it's funny because like, I think that what that teaches you is that you march until
Starting point is 00:17:00 you're done. Like a lot of people will be like, okay, we're going to be done at 10 miles. Oh no, we're not. Oh, it's just one more mile and we'll be done at 15 miles. We're not going to march this past 15 miles. And then you get to 15 miles and you go to 16 miles. And so you'd be surprised how your mind plays tricks on you and people just quit when they don't know when you're going to finish. And I think what that teaches you is you just go until the mission is complete. And so I think at the end of Rangeranger assessment phase i think we marched 20 miles into
Starting point is 00:17:25 darby where you do all the patrols but anyway by the end of ranger school people are so tired and so starving that they hallucinate you see people in the middle of the night like trying to like buy cans of pop from trees and stuff and like it's crazy man but i made it through that 160 pounds um and went up to the fort drum the 10th Mountain Division in Watertown, New York, and spent six and a half years in the military. I think four or five up at Fort Drum and 485 days, 16 months of heavy combat along the Afghan-Pakistan border. Wow. Where our mission in 2006 was to find Osama bin Laden. That was it.
Starting point is 00:18:02 We looked for him for 16 months. We didn't find him, but we found a lot of bad guys, a lot of bad guys. In fact, thousands of enemy troops. And we fought against a global jihadist all-star team of whether it was a Qani Network troops, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Hekmatyar. We fought against all of them and took an 85% casualty rate, like I said, and I think we killed 350 enemy insurgents, but we didn't hurt one single civilian. And we did a lot of good things for the Afghan people, built schools, wells, humanitarian assistance. We really did care a lot about the Afghan people there. Which is an excellent – I don't want to cut you off, though.
Starting point is 00:18:43 No, no, of course. But it's a good segue into the COVID bill, the things they're spending money on at a time of crisis yeah yeah yeah so i mean you mentioned building schools and stuff in afghanistan yeah yeah that's that's that is amazing i have a lot of respect for that at right now i wonder why it is will we focus on things like that well i mean this covid bill i tried to jump to this a little bit too early in the intro of your show but um I have a lot of issues with this COVID bill on a number of different levels, one of which is a process issue, right? Like the idea that a 5,300 page bill is given to Congress with what, three or four hours to read before they actually vote on
Starting point is 00:19:23 the bill. I got a huge problem with that, right? I would say we should all have more than a problem with it. They are telling us, screaming in our faces on every TV channel and every newspaper, the system is broken, we know it's broken, and we don't care. Because even AOC and Josh Hawley, I criticized them earlier, and I'll defend them in a second, but listen. They both tweeted about how this was awful. They're doing this 5,543 or whatever pages with only a couple hours to read it. They voted for it.
Starting point is 00:19:52 So if you're going to speak out against it, come on. Vote no like Rand Paul did, like Ted Cruz did. I think it was like 65 or more Republicans. Only two Democrats voted no, and it was Tulsi Gabbard and Rashida Tlaib. Now, in their defense, at least they spoke up against it. Hundreds of other members of Congress voted for a ridiculous omnibus 2.3 trillion garbage bill that includes things like this. This is from the Foundation for Economic Education.
Starting point is 00:20:17 $10 million for gender programs in Pakistan. Wonderful. That's exactly what the American people have been begging for. They've been coming together and rising up. These conservative protesters in Oregon, I know what they were really saying. Kate Brown, we want gender diversity programs in Pakistan. $10 million.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I know it's not going to change the face of the country. This is my next... So here's the deal, right? The American people for the better part of a year have gone bankrupt, have seen their small businesses close in Western Pennsylvania and my district. I've seen food lines every single week. Thousands of people are struggling to put food on the table for their families. The American
Starting point is 00:20:57 people are hurting. And optically, this is what you do at a time when the American people are hurting, when they're desperate for relief. Not only do you give them 600 bucks. And by the way, like to anybody that's that's watching right now, if you take just the 900 billion dollar plus covid relief. Right. And you just do the quick math. Three hundred and thirty million people less. Twenty seven hundred bucks for every man, woman and child in America. Right. They could have given us twenty seven hundred bucks. Now, instead of doing that, the government took twenty seven hundred dollars from every man, woman and child in America and gave you six hundred dollars back.
Starting point is 00:21:32 It would be like said Merry Christmas. That's unacceptable in every way. It would be like if I robbed you at gunpoint, took your wallet, took all your cash out and then said, here's 20 bucks. And you went, awesome. Thank you so much. Right. And so to your point of building schools for Afghan children is amazing. Teaching little girls to read in Afghanistan is great because we want to make sure that we shape that next generation, but do it in a different bill. Timing and optics are important. Like you're looking at $700 million through Sudan, 1.4 billion to the Asia Reassurance Initiative Act, which again, the Asia Reassurance Initiative Act, which again, the Asia Reassurance Initiative Act, I don't have a problem with.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Really, what it basically is, it funds counterinsurgency in Asia, basically keeps an eye on China. I got no issues with that, but don't put it in a COVID relief bill. The problem with these omnibus spending bills is that Congress doesn't read them. They don't have enough time to read them. And because our representatives, the people that we send to Washington to do our work for us and look out for us, the people don't know what's in them either.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And nobody does. And here's omnibus spending bills only get bigger. They don't get smaller, which is why our debt in the last 10 years has gone from $11 trillion to $27 trillion. Now the debt to GDP ratio is a scarier thing 128 right yeah so we're generating massive debt and we're producing nothing and that is how you kill economies this is this that's how you kill economies this is a national security issue and this will become probably the greatest leadership challenge of of our time and you know
Starting point is 00:23:08 i am gravely concerned with with the amount of debt that we're racking up in this country and bills like this don't help trying to explain it to people is it's it's it's it's such a genius move on the part of the criminal mask wearing bandits who just ripped us off to quote the babylon b yeah yeah because what they've done is they found a way to extract the the value of labor from the working class in a way they don't notice so i i have i have you know there's like this one guy i know i was arguing with and he's like why are they only giving us six hundred dollars and i was like, they're not giving you $600, bro. They're taking $2,700 and giving you $600 back.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And they don't understand. Like, what do you mean? They're writing me a check. I'm getting money. Listen, they've printed 35% of all U.S. dollars in circulation have been printed in the last 10 months. So that's all happening right now. And that dilutes your buying power. It basically is a blanket wage reduction.
Starting point is 00:24:08 But it's smart. A working class person get 10 bucks an hour, like or, you know, a person barely, depending on how many hours they work, could be in poverty levels. They get 10 bucks an hour
Starting point is 00:24:16 and they're saying, I want 15. I want 15 bucks an hour. And then they do something like this. That 10 bucks an hour can now buy you $7 worth of groceries from the year before. And they don't realize. They this, that, that 10 bucks an hour can now buy you $7 worth of groceries from the year before. And they don't realize they think, well, I'm still getting the same rate. I had, I'll tell you this, man, I was shopping on Amazon and I was buying a tablet. And so I
Starting point is 00:24:36 clicked it and it went into my shopping cart. And then something happened. I forgot about it. A day or so later, I opened up Amazon again and it said price changes in your cart. The tablet went from 500 to $650. That's, that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. People don't get it for a working class person, for somebody who's making 10, 50 bucks an hour, that could be another week. They have to work another week to get the tablet so they could do the job. And if you, if you can't get access to tools like that, I mean, I'll tell you, if you get a good phone, a good smartphone, you can make good YouTube videos. You can start a career. You can start a podcast.
Starting point is 00:25:08 If you can get some basic, you know, cheap equipment. I started doing everything I was doing with just a cell phone. Not a very good one either. Just like a basic smartphone. I saved up and I bought it. Imagine if before I was able to buy it, this crisis happened. And then I go into the store, and I'm like, I finally saved up the $300 for the phone.
Starting point is 00:25:28 They go, it's $450 now. I would have been like, eh, I guess no phone for me. Then I wouldn't have started live streaming. Then I wouldn't have started building up this company, and then it wouldn't even happen for me. You know what I mean? So there is a certain degree of having to earn and save to invest in yourself, invest in a business. They're extracting the buying power from the working class. Rich people are going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Rich people can buy stocks. I mean, I'm telling you, man, if you bought Amazon stock, if you bought Bitcoin, you're sitting back and you're laughing at all this. Well, I mean, what concerns me is that $600 is, I feel like, insulting. You know? And what's more is that Nancy Pelosi was given a better deal nine, what, six months ago, but sat on it. The Democrats in Congress sat on it, did nothing with it, because she wanted to score cheap political points against the president,
Starting point is 00:26:22 didn't want to give him an economic win before November 3rd. So what what the Democrats and look, but come on, Sean, could you imagine if Donald Trump would have won? I mean, the nightmare of this Cheeto fascist winning the American people gladly forwent or this this this twelve hundred dollar stimulus package in October because they knew it was for the greater good. Right. Defeating Donald Trump. No, no, no, no. You know, I mean, I'm telling you, I see this. I see this pain in Pennsylvania every single day. I mean, these people, I reach out to them. They call me on my cell phone. I'm you know, like I said, I've tried to lead on this issue and be there for them through this time of crisis.
Starting point is 00:27:06 And again, not just for Republicans, but for Democrats, too. But to be clear, the Democrats and the House of Representatives sat on COVID relief because they didn't want to give President Trump an economic victory
Starting point is 00:27:19 before November 3rd. The reason why that's important, Tim, is they made the political calculation that, yes, the American people are going to have to suffer. Even people that are Democrats that will likely vote for us, they're going to have to suffer for the next six months so that we can beat Donald Trump. I find that. And I was joking, of course.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I know. I know. I know. Some people might not realize. But think about that. The Democrats, Nancy Pelosiosi held the american people hostage and here's what i love i i love hearing this from these just like urban leftist types i call like you know what i want to try and differentiate between the actual economic left
Starting point is 00:27:59 who do pay attention to politics and maybe we have disagreements on policy but there's political commentators they they they know a decent amount of their stuff maybe we have disagreements on policy. But there's political commentators. They know a decent amount of their stuff. Maybe we think they don't know as much. Or whatever. But you have these low information resistance type Democrats. That they're not particularly politically active. And they're complaining.
Starting point is 00:28:18 They're saying. But Nancy Pelosi passed her bill earlier this year. And McConnell wouldn't approve of it. And it's like. What was in that bill? that bill was the same problem we're seeing with this garbage omnibus they put a bunch of trash in it knowing the republicans could not allow it to pass well of course do you know what the major sticking point and what nancy pelosi's bill was is she wanted bailouts for for poorly run radical liberal cities so but she wanted to get rid of voter ID laws.
Starting point is 00:28:46 That was all crammed in there too. Nonsensical things to put in a relief bill. What I told people in Pennsylvania and in my district, and my opponent at the time was a big proponent of taking taxpayer dollars from the people of Pennsylvania and bailing out a city like Portland that had already defunded their police and let their city burn for six months. It's immoral to take our tax dollars from hardworking people in western Pennsylvania who are already struggling to bail out poorly run liberal cities. That's the major point.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Or how about to fund gender diversity programs in Pakistan? Yeah, I mean, yes. I mean, so, yes, optically, we're back to the to the COVID bill. It was an it's an absolute disaster. And my fear is, is that problems like this are only going to get worse. And the point that I was making before this is that it's looking like, look, I don't know what the future holds. And you know that I'm I'm a supporter of President Trump. I've talked to the president on multiple occasions. I'm always going to fight for the people of this country. I believe in President Trump. But it's amazing now that some of the more career politicians in Washington, they see the writing on the wall.
Starting point is 00:30:04 They see President Trump that maybe in January, you know, you've got a guy like Joe Biden that that likely be sworn in as president. Yeah. Did you see with this bill how fast the swamp on both sides of the aisle went back to being the swamp? Oh, yeah. Right. We didn't see irresponsible spending bills like this in the news for four years under president trump now don't get me wrong this is one of the areas where i disagree with the president a lot is is his spending he spends a lot more than i'm comfortable with and so i i disagree with him on a lot on deficit spending and things like that but i would also argue that in the middle of a crisis and a pandemic once a in a hundred year pandemic, that times like this are precisely meant for deficit spending. But my point is, the swamp has gone back to being the swamp in record time.
Starting point is 00:30:53 So I remember talking to some family earlier this year, and they were saying, you always rag on Democrats. All you do is Democrats this, Democrats that. And I'm like, I criticize Republicans, admittedly, much less than I on Democrats. All you do is Democrats, this Democrats that. And I'm like, I criticize Republicans. Admittedly, you do much less than I criticize Democrats. And I'm going to show everybody listening exactly why I am right. I have here from GovTrack.us, H.R. 133 Consolidated Appropriations Act 2021, including coronavirus stimulus and relief. We can see in the Senate, 46 Democrats vote yay. Two independents who caucus with the Democrats vote yay. 44 Republicans vote yay. But what's this? Six Republicans voted nay, and two Republicans abstained. At least we have them.
Starting point is 00:31:42 And I'll give a shout out to Rick Scott, Rand Paul, Marsha Blackburn, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and Ron Johnson. Now, those politicians are not far from perfect. You can criticize them for a bunch of different things. But at least they have the political willpower to say, I'm not signing this thing. And it gets better. It gets better. We jump over to the House vote, H.R. 133. And once again, we have 128 republicans yay 200 230 democrats yay one
Starting point is 00:32:08 independent yay we have 50 republicans nay rejecting this 17 republicans abstain girls fine guys say no and then only two democrats actually voted against this of all of congress we ended up with 56 Republicans saying no. And what was that? What was the let's let's pull this back up and get the abstaining. We had two abstentions. So 19 Republicans abstained from the vote and only two Democrats. And it was Tulsi Gabbard, who I'm a big fan of and have praised, and Rashida Tlaib, who I've been very critical of. But my respect to her for saying no to this. I don't know what her reasons were, and each one of these politicians might have a different reason, but ultimately saying no to this garbage was the right thing.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Well, yeah. I mean, again, because COVID relief should be for COVID relief. Yes, exactly. There are lots of... And it should be bigger, and it should be for the American people. Look, I think that we should have done direct payments to the American people. I like $2,400 for people. I think that was President Trump's number in the past.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Something that can actually help them pay their bills. What I really liked is the Paytech protection program, which would simply have extended the program through the end of the year. Right. Real simple vote. Extend the program through the end of the year and streamline the forgiveness process. Right. The Democrats in the House of Representatives voted against that three times. And so I got massive problems with that.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Lydia pulled up the story from news wkrg5 let's uh what's the date on this this is from just now december 22nd trump calls on congress to amend covid 19 relief bill to increase stimulus checks to 2 000 per person remove wasteful and unnecessary items yes but you see what rand paul's response to all this was if 600 why not 1200 if 1200 why not 20 000 why not universal basic income i mean you could fix this problem tomorrow if you just adopted a more surgical pandemic response exactly and so i i will say that i think the political motivations in blue states and governors like newsom pritzker in illinois uh cuomo in new New York, Wolf in my home state of Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I believe that these second lockdowns are not just because of the coronavirus. I believe that they're making a political calculation and trying to put pressure on Mitch McConnell to bail out, you know, as I mentioned, poorly run liberal states and liberal cities, you know, by locking down the economy more. Right. states and liberal cities you know by locking down the economy more right it puts more pressure on small businesses more pressure on mr mcconnell to bail to give him what to give those governors what they want i i've i've thought about you know we went through the first lockdown so let's let's let's let's uh we'll use a segue into the the big story that we want to talk about i remember
Starting point is 00:35:02 earlier this year watching videos coming out of china where it's like someone's on a bus and they point the camera out the window and then someone just falls over and it was like watching shawn of the dead i don't know if you guys have seen that movie where he's like riding and he sees the person fall over and he's like looking we saw a bunch of those videos it was freaky and what was happening is that people were having respiratory issues from covid and then just like earlier in the year we had a very serious problem so we all agreed okay we're gonna lock down for 15 days because we can't stop this thing well i didn't agree with that by the way well i did because i the idea was flatten the curve right how many how many people forgot that already it didn't work well it did work covid just went haywire anyway it went haywire it came back and
Starting point is 00:35:42 so what happened was we did flatten the curve. And then we had this big flat period. And now it's spiking and proving it's not going to stop. And we can't just stay locked down forever. So the appropriate response now, I believe, is protect the vulnerable, social distancing, masks, and reopening everything. So go back to the very beginning in January. I saw what I saw coming out of China was very concerning to me. And the truth is, I didn't know, nor did anybody else, to include our intelligence community, what we were dealing with in COVID. And I think back then we didn't even have a name for it.
Starting point is 00:36:20 And so Tom Cotton and I think Tom Cotton and I were the first people in the country to say we need to ban all travel from china yeah until we can figure this out and they got mad at tom oh they got mad at tom cotton they got mad at me oh we're xenophobic and then i think the president a couple days later banned travel from china uh this was all while impeachment uh articles of impeachment by the way were being delivered from the house to the senate uh and then the president in an address in fact i was in washington dc at the time uh and the president banned all travel from europe and i remember watching that thinking oh my god this is serious he's doing a presidential dress banning all travel from europe is a big deal yeah definitely um and this was at the time where nancy pelosi was
Starting point is 00:37:00 passing out impeachment pens and telling people to go out in Chinatown and Mayor de Blasio saying, go see a movie. Come on down to Chinatown. And Joe Biden, again, calling calling Donald Trump xenophobic, a hysterical xenophobic. But I know that I know that the media loves to push this fake fact check where they're like Biden never called Trump xenophobic. Yeah. To specify, he in response to Trump's call for banning travel to China, Joe Biden said we don't need Donald Trump xenophobia.
Starting point is 00:37:27 So it was very clear he was calling Trump a xenophobe in response to this. But the media goes, but he didn't call him that. He said he was. OK, shut up, media. Yeah. So so my point is, is that I was OK with the lockdowns early on precisely because we didn't know enough about the virus. I mean, for God's sake, it could have had a 50% fatality rate. And in those instances, just from a strategic pandemic military response standpoint, when
Starting point is 00:37:51 you don't know a whole lot about the pathogen, you want to make sure that you protect people and keep the mice out as long as possible until you learn about what this thing can do. My point is, after 15 days to slow the spread, then 30 days to slow the spread, then two months to slow the spread then 30 days to slow the spread then two months to slow their spread then six months but the point is we know a lot more about covet 19 today than we did in january we know who would affect yeah we've got therapeutics regeneron i mean uh we've we've got a hydroxychloroquine by the way which now the ama came back out now now it's cool because the president because yeah the election's over hydroxychloroquine actually works. The American Medical Association reversed their previous advice on hydroxychloroquine.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Amazing. Exactly. And so not only that, now we've got two effective vaccines. And by the way, people that criticize the president's pandemic response, again, does President Trump always say the right thing? No. But this public-pri uh uh project air bridge was an unprecedented success i mean he delivered pp uh personal protective equipment ppe uh at levels that we never thought possible by simply partnering with private institutions to make them
Starting point is 00:38:59 available he got criticized no no they're not being enough personal protective equipment democrats were actually praising him we had cuomo and newsom actually. Oh, it's a time. Right, right, right, right. At the time. Yes, they were praising him. And Fauci said, we're doing a great job. I don't think anybody could have done anything better. We developed so many ventilators in this country in such a short amount of time that we didn't even come close to using what we created and what we made. We sent them all around the world. Do you remember the hospital ships up in New York City and outside L.A.? Do you know how many people went on the USS Comfort? I think like one patient, right? And I don't even think it was a COVID patient, right? The Javits Center had like 30%
Starting point is 00:39:32 capacity. Yeah. And Operation Warp Speed was an unprecedented success. All of this stuff happened under President Trump's leadership, the development of personal protective equipment, which by the way, our national stockpile of personal protective equipment, which, by the way, our national stockpile of personal protective equipment was completely depleted under Obama and Joe Biden under the H1N1. Think about this, OK? Donald Trump, I remember getting a Twitter argument with some leftist and I said Donald Trump did a good job on COVID and their only response was, oh, my God, are you serious? And I was like, so we had a lefty on the show.
Starting point is 00:40:06 And the first thing he brought up was, I understand, like, when he was addressing it, there's no metric by which to judge a good job or a bad job because it's one leader. It's one president doing this one thing. You can try and compare it to historical moments or whatever, and you can't do it, right? So I'm like, you're correct. I agree with that. And he goes, and that being said, here's why Trump did a bad job and i said well i think trump did a good job it's really about whether you like trump or don't that's what it boils down to is it's trump's comportment um people you know and i will tell you because we we experienced this on the campaign trail um i don't know what it is i i mean i think when you talk about the president's
Starting point is 00:40:44 achievements whether it's project air bridge or Operation Warp Speed or some of these unprecedented public-private partnerships or ventilator production, like all of these things, I mean, were happened in record time. I mean, the fact that we have two vaccines available to people in under a year is close to a miracle. It happened under President trump's leadership but but people don't people didn't like him at the podium during press conference shortly yeah i know they didn't like they didn't like how he interacted with the media and so that was enough for people to say well i just i just i just i just don't like i don't i don't think he's doing a good job so Trump is saying right now he will not sign the covid relief bill unless Americans get two thousand dollar stimulus. Good. But not now. I want to I want to address one very important thing, though. Here's here's the bit that I've been doing in the past couple of days.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Democrats will come into the House or the Senate and say, we're proposing a bill to burn down the house and they'll like the match. And then Republicans go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Only burn down the kitchen. Instead of arguing for reopening the economy and getting people back to work and protecting the vulnerable, Donald Trump is just saying, oh, yeah, Democrats will all one up your leftist policy idea and go even further left than you. Well well this is what this is what the president represents in the republican party today a massive paradigm shift right i would argue and contend that over the last 30 years of my life republicans have been conditioned to fly the white flag of surrender at any sign of adversity and i think that that's because, you know, the Democrats control every single cultural institution
Starting point is 00:42:27 in this country. They control the media. They control Hollywood. They control our education system. And the Republicans, you know, are afraid of media criticism should they take a stand. Well, I've never, the president, I have never seen anyone in my life.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Now, by the way, you know, the president, again, ran as a Republican, and I think he's a proud Republican, but he resists groupthink on both sides of the aisle like no one I have ever seen before. Well, you know why? And Republicans and Democrats in Washington, Trump's don't. I don't want to say they don't like him, but he can make enemies on both sides of the aisle, and he does it as a matter of routine. And I have to say, don't like him but he he can make enemies on both sides of the aisle and he does it as a matter of routine and i have to say i i respect that trump's ego is just too big for for better or for worse he's a billionaire businessman who knows better than these people
Starting point is 00:43:16 so when they come to him and say here's what he goes i don't want to listen to you i know it needs to be done he believes in himself he's He's to a fault. He's arrogant. He's egotistical. But that can be good. So that's the negative aspect. But you could also say he's just very, very confident and he's sure of himself. So you've got things to criticize him for. But in the same sense, it works out really well for the American people right now.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I actually agree with the stimulus checks, not for what they're doing. Like if they actually did a $900 billion stimulus package and everyone got $2,700, I would wince, like, cringe a little bit. Okay, fine. If that money goes directly to the American people, it's their own buying power being borrowed by themselves. I understand that. Giving it to, you know, art institutions and, you know, prominent universities for, like, academic nonsense, and then tying it into the omnibus stuff, that's when things get out of hand. It muddies the waters for sure. I would say about President Trump, part of being a leader and one of the things that I learned very early on as a young leader in Afghanistan is that as a leader, if you're not upsetting people every now and again, you're not doing your job.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And part of the problem in Washington is we elect too many lawyers, too many politicians, and not enough leaders. And I think I disagree with Tulsi Gabbard on a lot of things, on a lot of issues of substance. But I respect her. She came out today. And this is another issue that I have. You know, members of Congress getting the vaccine before people in high-risk categories really upsets me because there's a philosophy in the military of leaders eat last. When you're in the field with your troops as a commander, as a leader, I don't touch food until every single member of my platoon is eaten. And so Tulsi Gabbard came out today and said, Hey, you know, I disagree
Starting point is 00:45:05 with elites in our society, or even people that are, that are, that are, you know, what do they call high risk folks that are work that are working, getting the vaccine prior to the elderly? Well, I mean, I respect that. I respect that. And so, you know, that's not that decision from her is probably not going to earn her any points within her political party. But again, part of being a leader is standing up and doing what you believe in your heart is right regardless of whether or not you're going to get flack. She's proposing some bills, with all due respect, on her way out. She's burning it down. Yeah. I love it.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I mean, it's fairly moderate what she's proposing. But I wanted to segue this into the bigger story story we had about the protesters the conservative protesters because what i what what my concern is with extended lockdowns with or without with with or without a stimulus check so trump comes out and says we'll do two thousand dollars and it's gonna make a whole lot of people happy but it's also going to be it's essentially paying to keep the lockdowns going saying okay we can lock down because we'll just keep printing money until what it all becomes worthless so now we're seeing conservative protesters coming up and doing something you know what we mentioned this
Starting point is 00:46:15 earlier in the show that's uh as far as i can tell rather unprecedented at least at least in this culture war that we've seen over the past several years first of all when i when I started covering, actually, let me make sure I give you guys the context before I get into this. The Independent reports, protesters attack police with pepper sprays. They try to storm Oregon Capitol. Stories from a couple days ago. Two people arrested on charges of trespassing and assaulting an officer. It was bear spray.
Starting point is 00:46:40 And these were conservatives using bear spray against police while entering the building. They say about 300 members of the Proud Boys, Patriot Prayer and other groups arrived at the reopen Oregon rally, calling on Governor Kate Brown to lift pandemic restrictions as lawmakers met in a special session to discuss stimulus and vaccination distribution measures. I've been covering the ground at protests as a teenager going down in chicago to these you know anti-iraq war stuff anti-afghan war protests and just really complaining all the time and when i started covering uh occupy wall street i never saw conservative protests you'd see like tea party stuff and you know that that was i went to dc once and i saw a bunch of lawn chairs and it was a bunch of conservatives and republicans waving little american flags and i was like that's a protest yeah well it was effective for them for sure they they they played it smart they played it better and meanwhile occupy was very physical
Starting point is 00:47:33 you know non-violent civil disobedience mixed with what they call the diversity of tactics which really sullied and soured the whole thing but over the next several years we started seeing you know proud boys come out i remember going to berkeley and seeing proud boys and it was like i was i was like well proud boys are out here like they're just like you know drinking with gavin and doing their videos and now they're on the ground now they were actually fighting with antifa and i remember i was in front of trump tower and there was a trump supporter who's just regular guy regular clothes and they were protesters and i was talking to him and he said he was a trump supporter and i said why aren't you protesting why aren't you coming out and supporting your president and this is years ago and he was like oh no no no i i can't do anything like that so i remember the
Starting point is 00:48:11 first time i saw i think it was in boston when i saw a march of trump supporters chanting whose streets our streets and i laughed and i'm like that's what the left says now you got conservatives organizing marching and protests i'll tell you what i haven't seen. I have seen Antifa throw bricks at cops, throw Molotovs at cops. I've not seen them pepper spray cops. Certainly, I think the Molotovs are way worse. But it is fascinating to me. And I'm not saying that in a good way. I'm like, that's crazy to see conservatives bear spraying cops, because you got to really push the line to make a conservative come after a cop. I mean, these are people at this protest. There are a couple of people waving thin blue line flags, clearly in support of police. Now someone there sprays the cops down with bear mace
Starting point is 00:48:58 because these cops were barring them from a hearing they were legally allowed to enter. So windows got smashed, cops shoved people back, a couple people got arrested. I'll tell you, we do hear in the media a lot, fears about what the right will do if they finally feel compressed and they're going to push back.
Starting point is 00:49:13 And I'm like, it's a good point. The problem is they bring it up when no conservative is doing anything. Like Antifa comes out, burns down a whole city, and they're like, but they're the good guys. They're fighting fascism.
Starting point is 00:49:24 And conservatives are walking around with little american flags now you have the the very serious question of if conservatives have finally said that these these officers who are violating the constitution and keeping us locked down and barring us from a public hearing if they're no longer on our side why would it be on their side but also also, it's also it's it's it's that it's conservatives over the last year have have have suffered. Just America has suffered. But also conservatives are banned. Conservatives are canceled for the last four years. They made conservatives out to be conspiracy theorists.
Starting point is 00:50:00 They called us names, deplorables, chumps, you name it. I mean, every every conservatives are constantly. I mean, look what look at what Antifa did to elderly conservatives who walked out conservatives have sat back and done nothing but take it on the chin every single month. And so I'm not saying, gosh, I don't like violence. Violence is unacceptable on either side uh but we are in the middle of i think the greatest one of the greatest constitutional one of the greatest constitutional crisis crises that we they would ever experienced in this country conservatives already feel like they don't have a voice this is what's happening when when when free speech and the first amendment is essentially canceled or
Starting point is 00:51:00 free speech is suppressed bad things happen and and and part of the i think that's part of what we're seeing here today you know those conservatives in oregon you know got in the fight with the cops out there they were they were they were unconstitutionally denied their right to a public hearing again they're not violent they're they're not they certainly got some of them got violent but it's very different from if a bunch of like antifa people show up wearing all black they they typically act a fool and they start threats and you say take off your mask and hoodie and glasses you can come in the building i'm fine with that if and if someone wants to protest and come out and yell rabble rabble and they want to wear sunglasses a mask and a hoodie that's fine too you want to commit
Starting point is 00:51:41 a violent act that's not okay but what's what's crazy now is Antifa fights cops. They fight cops. We got that video. I was at Seattle, I think. They threw a Molotov at cops. That's crazy. I mean, they're not just talking about trying to kill the guy. They're trying to, they're talking, when you throw a Molotov at somebody, you're not just
Starting point is 00:51:57 trying to commit murder. You want to make sure they suffer the whole way through. And if they survive, they have permanent injuries for the rest of their lives. That's psychotic. Now, conservatives who typically and spent the whole year defending the police, they're mad at them. The police need the support of anybody they can get, especially when against the wishes of many of the members of the public, they're defunding police. Minnesota, this is hilarious. City Council votes to abolish their police department. All of a sudden, crime rates start skyrocketing. Locals are calling their city council members saying, what's happening? Why
Starting point is 00:52:33 aren't the police responding to calls anymore? They come into an emergency meeting. Okay, we got to go backwards. We want to do over. It was a mistake. It was a mistake. They're doing it even though people are saying not to. And conservatives the whole time have been saying, back the blue, defend the police, not defund the police. But what happens when the police don't get that support because the police are the ones now who are shutting down businesses? During the riots in June, Antifa were destroying small businesses and burning down buildings. Well, now the videos I see in big cities, they're Democrat cities, mind you. It's the police doing it.
Starting point is 00:53:06 It's the NYPD who stood in front of that bar in Staten Island and basically looked the guy in the face and said, you have no constitutional rights because we say so. And we'll arrest you if you try and let people into your building. The First Amendment says peaceably assemble. It doesn't say why. If I want to peaceably assemble to you know play marbles or whatever i'm allowed to do it if someone says i'm going to open up my business i have a right you know i have a right to open to the public his constitutional right to publicly assemble the police barred the building who are those cops to violate the constitution that way well i mean this is part
Starting point is 00:53:38 of this is part of the reason why i say that you know the police should should not follow unconstitutional orders. They and certainly in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, we've not experienced. I mean, I've not seen I've not I've not seen or had experiences like that. In fact, most of the cops that I've come into contact with, they loathe the orders. In fact, we've had some sheriffs come out and say simply, we're not going to, we're not going to enforce them. Good. The government does not have a right to deny your ability to make a living. The government does not have a right to tell you what you have to wear in your own house. The government doesn't have a right to tell you how many people you can have
Starting point is 00:54:19 in your own house. So if you're a police officer and you get a call and you know, maybe a neighbor tells on you, tells on you, you get a call and you know maybe a neighbor tells on you tells on you get a call and you show up to someone's house and they got a couple people in their house you shouldn't you shouldn't be enforcing unconstitutional orders and and and they're and exactly their orders they're not laws there's no statutory backing to this it was some governor or mayo saying mayor just saying do it and they're cops who are doing it and also can we also just have a conversation about like, in Pennsylvania,
Starting point is 00:54:48 we're locked down again. Governor Wolf locked us down. He shut down restaurants and indoor dining. You know, first of all, there's absolutely no science behind this, right? And you're shutting down restaurants. You know what happens when you shut down restaurants? If anything, we should be opening up more restaurants to allow people to spread out more. But when people
Starting point is 00:55:04 can't go out to a restaurant, you know what they do? They entertain at home. They go to their friends' houses. They go to their friends' houses. So if you're looking for, if you're looking to stop the spread of COVID-19 and you actually look at some of the contract tracing research, it says 76% of the spread happens in people's own home. What you're doing by closing restaurants is shunting people back into their own homes, which, according to your own research, allows for the spread of COVID-19. Didn't the Supreme Court already rule that, like, the first lockdown in Pennsylvania was unconstitutional? The federal court. The federal court.
Starting point is 00:55:35 And then another judge took it up and struck it down. We've got so many experiences with the court systems. Let me show you this. From Vox.com, December 10th southern california sheriffs are refusing to enforce stay-at-home orders it's it's these big blue cities so this is another reason why i'll always say the a-cab people are wrong somebody commented i so i made a music video in november and it's uh it's called will the people you can check it out but it's about the cycle of authoritators and violence and And someone commented, it was really funny.
Starting point is 00:56:05 They said, you made an entire video showing how the bad guys are the police and like the people are rising up against them to remove the dictators and they're always backed by the cops. And I'm like, when you have blue areas, when you have Democrats and the police there don't care about the Constitution, yes, you have Democrats and the police there don't care about the Constitution, yes, you have a problem. When you have these places in Southern California where the sheriffs uphold the Constitution, when you have places in smaller towns and local cops who uphold the Constitution,
Starting point is 00:56:35 the cops are the good guys, the ones protecting you from the despots, from the authoritarians. The greatest hedge against authoritarianism is our constitution our constitution protects all americans is a shield for all americans against authoritarian government listen this is why uh my understanding is most cops swear no to uphold the constitution absolutely and they take it seriously and when they do they are literally the good guys when they don't they're literally bad guys yeah police is a verb like if i give you a gun i'm like go walk around and make sure no one's out there you be you're policing the area whether or not you are adhered to the constitution has nothing to do with it some of those guys did take oh this and if they're violating them that's a
Starting point is 00:57:16 problem but anyone can police well it really does come down to cops as the most important group of people and i'm not saying important as a good or bad thing. The most consequential group of people in this country right now are cops who are upholding their constitution or breaking it. In New York, we're seeing them break it. And that means people's lives are being destroyed. In areas like Southern California, we're seeing them uphold it and they're the heroes stopping the fascists. Well, I have no problem calling them, use their own word against them. These Democrats that feel they have a right to give our taxpayer dollars to massive corporations fascists well i'll i have no problem calling them use their own word against them these these democrats that feel they have a right to give our taxpayer dollars to massive corporations to shut everything down by edict that's they're fascists well and and then when you see some of the
Starting point is 00:57:56 reporters talking to governor wolf it it really is it would be hysterical if it weren't tragic for these restaurants who are closing in record numbers in the state of Pennsylvania. Reporters asking him, well, why are you closing restaurants? What research are you using? Do you know what he's saying? He's like, oh, well, I can't think of a more dangerous thing than people sitting with me. But there's no research to support that the spread of COVID-19 is happening in restaurants, especially when restaurants have invested tens of thousands of dollars in taking 50% capacity. People are spread out.
Starting point is 00:58:32 They've got plexiglass or they're outdoors. All you're effectively doing is taking someone's ability to make a living three weeks before Christmas. It's not just the owners of the restaurants. It's the busboys. It's the cooks. It's the servers. All of these people are going to have not only trouble putting food on the table for their family, but they're
Starting point is 00:58:49 going to have issues Christmas for their children, for God's sake. It's really, really frustrating to me. I've stood up in Pennsylvania, and I feel like I'm the only one in Pennsylvania saying, restaurants stay open, cops disobey unconstitutional orders. And it's working, except for now, we've got government and health,
Starting point is 00:59:07 the health department showing up to restaurants. And inside of one restaurant in western Pennsylvania, Giovanni's, it's an Italian restaurant, health department came in there and said, well, you're not supposed to be open for in-person dining. And he said, well, I can't make a living if I don't. So they came back the next day, they pulled his health permit, and they said, oh, we'll make you a deal. We'll let you do takeout.
Starting point is 00:59:26 And he said, I lose money when I do takeout. I'm staying open. He said, well, guess what? We got to shut you down now. How are they going to do it? Well, he didn't listen. So are they going to send cops in? I don't look if they do.
Starting point is 00:59:37 I don't I don't think I don't know. I hope that I hope that the cops don't. I hope that they don't comply. I don't think that they will. But but the point is, people are starting to push back. I don't know. I hope that the cops don't. I hope that they don't comply. I don't think that they will. But the point is, people are starting to push back. And what I said earlier in the program is a government derives power from the consent of the people. The moment we no longer consent, the government has no power to impose any unconstitutional
Starting point is 00:59:59 lockdowns. And again, I'll say this again, because there'll be some radical left group that's going to take this out of context and say that I don't care about COVID. I do care about COVID a lot. I think we need to adopt a more surgical pandemic response. I think that we can protect small businesses and protect people's ability to make a living while simultaneously protecting public health. I think we can do both. Not only that, I think at this point, I don't care what the response being offered up is as long as it's not lockdown.
Starting point is 01:00:23 You know why? We did the lockdown. It didn't work. We did a lockdown. The science behind them is dubious at this point. Anybody that's advocating for lockdowns at this point in the game is not looking at the data and not looking at the science. But I'll clarify. The first point of the lockdowns was not to stop everyone from getting COVID.
Starting point is 01:00:36 It was to make it so the hospitals could handle the load by spreading it out. That was the goal of the lockdown. We did. Now it's back. We slowed the spread it came back with a vengeance we can't just do it again because clearly it's just going to keep coming back we have to do something else so my question is though with these protesters at what point do conservatives i don't know escalate as it were my there's a town called Mossy Brook, New Washington, where the mayor just said,
Starting point is 01:01:06 we're exempt from the lockdown just by his own decree. And so the city is just normal. Patriot prayer, you know, right wing groups showed up and they party. I think, you know, people, what the government is doing is risking the loss of their legitimacy. When you have police in New York and other big cities violating the Constitution, well, then people feel like the government is illegitimate. When you have police officers who defy the elected government, like in Southern California, to defend the Constitution, then people are going to start feeling like their elected government is illegitimate. If the Constitution is not being protected or the or the the governors are trying to rip it apart then people are going to lose confidence at what point do we start seeing
Starting point is 01:01:50 small towns and right-wing groups just set up their own checkpoints or whatever and say you have no power here to like the cops when they go hungry when they start going hungry god i hope that never happens i i think we can avoid all of that by simply disobeying the orders period the most effective way. Because this is the most important thing. And by the way, Tim, when I say disobey the orders, I'm simply saying restaurants stay open, small businesses stay open. If you want to leave your house and you want to go shopping, then go shopping.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Follow CDC guidelines. Wear a mask in the store. If you're somebody that's afraid of COVID, right? Or if you're somebody that has a pre-existing condition, or if you're in a high-risk category, you know, stay home. Order groceries online. Look to your neighbor for help. Maybe they'll go grocery shopping for you.
Starting point is 01:02:31 But there are ways that human beings will find, I mean, we'll find a way to be safe and be responsible during all this. But the point that I'm making is I don't think a top-down, draconian government lockdown is the answer because, you answer because there's that old phrase from Ronald Reagan, like, I'm from the government and I'm here to help. That scares me.
Starting point is 01:02:53 I don't want the government's help. I think the vast majority of Americans don't want the government's help. They're loaning out money. So basically we're taking a loan from the Federal Reserve that we have to pay back at interest just to pay ourselves 600 bucks your children and your children and so the debt gdp debt to gdp ratio is 126 you said 120 once it gets to 130 you mentioned a number 32 is you're gonna have like real real problems and what historically do very poor countries with huge militaries do they don't disband yes i don't know who we would invade right now, though.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Iran. How about Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria and Libya and all that? How about? Yeah. How about this is what I'm talking about. Desperation. Iran is the is the target. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I mean, I feel like we racked up a lot of debt in Afghanistan and in Iraq, Iraqaq iraq more so than afghanistan but who wrecked the debt up and who benefited from it because there are individuals probably in government who either just didn't care and voted yes because they're not going to see this or there are people who had stock in certain companies and were like i'll vote for war fine whatever my my fear is is is not about you know the the united States potentially invading another country, although I'm always worried about sending our troops into harm's way for a number of different reasons and the potential foreign policy implications that come along with that. I am very, very worried about the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party. Definitely. I'm very, very concerned.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Taiwan. If they go in on Taiwan, i mean what's america going to do well i i joe biden will do nothing i said i said i said you know if you end up seeing a biden presidency mark my words i think this is this is just what i know of china and how they operate i've been watching them for the last 10 years of my life i think you'll see china go quiet and then i think you'll see them invade taiwan and then you're going to that'll be one of the soon. Yes. And so but look, the Chinese Communist Party has infiltrated every level of our government. And that is not Sean Parnell on Tim Pool and a conspiracy theory. This is what a Chinese professor said at a Chinese presentation said that we've got people at every level of the Chinese Communist Party.
Starting point is 01:05:04 He even brought up paying Hunter Biden and the Biden family. A couple of weeks later, you have Eric Swalwell come out with with Fang Fang being compromised by a Chinese spy. You had a Chinese spy driving around Dianne Feinstein for 20 years. Now get this. And no one no one's talked about this. I'm going to talk about it on your show for the for the first time. A high level Chinese diplomat met with the Allegheny County Executive,
Starting point is 01:05:27 Rich Fitzgerald, in August of 2019. Why is a high-level Chinese official, Communist Party official, meeting with a county executive? And you know how I found that information? On the Chinese Communist Party New York City Consulate website, where they said that in this meeting, oh, Rich Fitzgerald, the Allegheny County executive, welcomed us with open arms. We said that Wuhan and Pittsburgh are sister cities. When was this?
Starting point is 01:05:56 In August of 2019, three months before a pandemic. Wuhan and Pittsburgh are sister cities. What gives an Allegheny County executive the authority to make a declaration like that number one number two how is it okay for a county executive and local democratic officials to meet with a senior a high-level chinese diplomat to sub to subvert and by the way this is on the ccp's website to subvert the president's trade policy in china and foreign policy in china and stand steadfast in our friendship.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Did you see this story that came out just about a week ago? DataLeak exposes details of two million Chinese Communist Party members. I saw that. The U.S. and the U.K. have been infiltrated by members of the Communist Chinese Party, some of these biggest companies, some of them working for some of these major pharmaceutical companies. So I have to wonder, when I see something like that, when I see Fang Fang, you know, Eric Swalwell allegedly was having relations with this woman, and she helped fundraise
Starting point is 01:06:54 for his campaign. My question is, why hasn't he resigned already? Why is he on the Intel Committee? Why isn't he under investigation, having every single communication ripped apart and gone through the fine-tooth comb? And then when I see stories about this guy Fitzgerald you're mentioning now in allegheny county oh it's it's you notice this because this is your county right yeah it's part of my district you you you're this is your you know where you live this is my first foray into politics you
Starting point is 01:07:17 know i'm a warfighter so i'm just starting to notice this stuff but think about this think about how many other counties how many other districts and then i wonder you say what what gives him the authority why does he do it man i wonder if all it takes is some hacker a chinese communist party member who you know hacks into his account finds his uh naughty folder and then blackmails him with it they have a meeting and they say oh take a look at this image well look that's that's part of their playbook but china knows our so china knows the game the chinese communist party uh does not want that's part of their playbook but china knows our china knows the game the chinese communist party uh does not want for resources part of what they do part of right out of the chinese communist party playbook is putting pressure on local state and federal officials that
Starting point is 01:07:56 they think that they can get in with and it just so happens i mean look this is a republican and democrat problem now i don't think that i mean you've got diane feinstein and eric swalwell and then you've got i i i i technically agree but i actually kind of disagree with you saying it's a republican democrat problem it's bad for all of us it's bad for all of us is what i'm saying i'm not sure the democrats care well i mean look at the democrats cared eric swalwell would not be on the Intelligence Committee. If the Democrats. Joe Biden would not be president-elect or will be on January 6th. Or about to be. I mean, look, this is a problem. This is a problem that deserves the attention of every power broker in this country, in the private sector.
Starting point is 01:08:41 And every head of every government agency needs to be focused on this now. Too many people are in on the take man look look look it is not hyperbolic to say that joe biden is likely compromised by communist chinese interests he flew his son on government property air force air force two to china for a 1.5 billion dollar equity deal now i thought didn't happen i thought the equity deal fell through but we had china uncensored on the show and they said no actually it did go through just not the way people think the negotiations were good it worked they got a five million dollar interest free interest free forgivable loan joe biden flew his son to china for a private deal joe biden's involved of course he's Of course. He's the big guy.
Starting point is 01:09:25 He's the big guy. But even outside of accusations, right, from these emails. So we have leaked emails. Well, they're not leaked emails. We have the laptop. The emails were published. We have confirmation from Tony Bobulinski, who worked on some of these deals. Get rid of all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Just say, you know what? Okay. You're arguing with your Democrat buddy. Say, forget it all. It is not in dispute that Joe Biden took Air Force Two to fly his son to China for private equity deals. Joe Biden used government resources to enrich his family. That is a fact. Not in dispute by anybody. And now this guy's on track to become president.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Look, it's concerning. And I would say about, you know, Allegheny County executives, local local county executives. It's not uncommon for them to meet with diplomats and welcome them to their cities. But I would say, why are you meeting with our number one geopolitical foe, probably the greatest human rights abuser on the planet? They put people in concentration camps. Their number one goal is to become the lone superpower overtaking the united states of america does this not deserve questions from maybe for somebody in the media i used to always be like why were they so nice to the nazis in 1930 why
Starting point is 01:10:36 was hitler man of the year why did why did germany yeah why did they host the olympics why was germany such the love child of the world in the early days when i maybe their human rights abuses weren't public knowledge yet peace but i think it was yeah who said that neville chamberlain neville chamberlain said that so after his appeasement that was michael mouse who brought that up on the show right yeah the saying peace in our time was when neville chamberlain talked to hitler and they were like he comes back he was don't worry he says he won't attack us yeah they gave him a piece of what czechoslovakia or something i don't know neville chamberlain gave him a big piece of land it was like he's not gonna do any he's not gonna invade anymore guys the sudetenland i don't remember yeah the idea the idea that china is our friend
Starting point is 01:11:17 that is being you're hearing this in the news from many in the democrat party is one of the greatest fallacies of our time they are not our friend they they do not want to be they want to overtake our country they do not want to cooperate with us like look look it's very very very concerning and i'm telling you every leader in our country needs to focus on this right now but clearly people like swalwell either don't care or like it. I don't think he intentionally took a spy under his wing. He'd resign if he cared.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Well, now, yeah, I know. I think if there was enough of a public outcry, he would resign. I don't know if it's that they don't care or is it that they're just ignorant to the goals, the foreign policy goals of China, or maybe they don't understand. Well, let me tell you something. I worked for ABC News, Univision's joint venture, Fusion. I worked in the ABC News building. I worked in the Univision building. I worked for Vice. What people think, they think that individuals get bribed to do things. They think that I would go to you and say, hey, I want you to steal Ian's glasses. Here's $10. Well, that's not how bribes work. That's not how the media works. That's not how political manipulation works. Here's how it works. If you run a company and you want to be a woke, progressive or conservative company, you don't hire a journalist and then say, I'll give you extra money to lie and make fake news.
Starting point is 01:12:36 You seek out those who lie and make fake news and say, want a job? And they say, yes, I do. Here's your salary. Do whatever you want, because I already know what you do. Eric Swalwell got help with his political career from Fang Fang. The Chinese Communist Party finds feckless, ignorant morons and then says, make them win. How can we make them win? Why do we have feckless, ignorant morons in our government?
Starting point is 01:13:00 Because we are a government of, by, and for the people. Because it's a popularity vote? Because anybody can run. So what they'll do now is they'll exploit that system in any legal possible way they can, or even illegal. Like we have the Thousand Towns Program. These professors are getting huge stacks of cash from China, and they're getting arrested for it because it's illegal. Or they're lying to the government about the money they're getting. China's willing to break the rules, and they're willing to do whatever it takes to exploit our system. And Fang Fang, the spy who is helping
Starting point is 01:13:29 Eric Swalwell get elected is, well, that's basically the point. Swalwell probably wouldn't even be in office. I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe he would have. That's fine. But either way, he should have resigned the moment the story broke. The moment he had to hit a briefing and the FBI came in and said, you were propped up by Chinese spies. Even if it were me, I'd walk out and be like, I'm out. I resign. Straight up. Or at least take him off the Intelligence Committee so that he doesn't have access to our country's most sensitive secrets.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Yeah, that too. But I don't think the Democrats care. Look, remember Steve King? Remember what happened to him when he tweeted about white nationalism? Yes. He got booted off everything. Every committee. And then he lost the primary. Because the Republican Party said, we don't want to associate with you and what you're saying. So we want someone else. That was the Republican Party because the Republicans, for all of their faults, are still substantially better than democrats in many ways i think both
Starting point is 01:14:25 parties are full of crony establishment garbage but you still have a decent amount of people in the republican party who are totally with you they're willing to do something about it i mean obviously i'm a republican but yes i totally agree with you i totally agree with you but again it's just look at ilhan omar comes out and says all that stuff about you know jews and israel that was like the way the way i described it was ilhan omar was crop dusting anti-semitism you know what crop dusting is the plane comes down gets real close to the ground but doesn't touch it the things ilhan omar said weren't overtly anti-semitic but people were like you're reading into it but hold on you said three things it's like if you said one thing we'd be like oh that's weird second time we go it's kind of weird third time it's like okay that's
Starting point is 01:15:03 on purpose right but all that happened was nancy pel said, we want to condemn all bigotry and no penalties, no censure, no punishment. Just we condemn bigotry. Have a nice day, everybody. Steve King tweets once and they kick him out of the party. He's gone. He loses. Yeah. Bye-bye. I know. And so Democrats don't do it. And Eric Swalwell still sits on the Intelligence Committee, even though he was compromised for years by a Chinese spy. You know, it's funny. There was a meme where they were like, the Chinese Communist Party is sending beautiful young women to basically get in bed, literally, with up-and-coming stars, politicians, personalities. And so now it's like, if you are,
Starting point is 01:15:46 what did someone say? They say, if you're a two and she's a 10, you probably should, you got to ask some questions. She's probably a spy. She's probably a spy.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Something's not right. Can we get Swalwell out of the, out of the committee? Impeach him. The only way he gets removed from the committee is Nancy Pelosi removes him
Starting point is 01:16:04 from this, from the committee. You know what, man? Have you seen what's going on with the force the vote thing on the progressive left? I have seen this, although I don't know enough about it to discuss it in any depth. I have seen it. I read a little bit about it just today. This is why I think I'll tell you another reason why I don't like the Democrats.
Starting point is 01:16:19 After everything we've just explained about, you know, kicking people out of the party and booting them off you know their their um committees you have ocasio-cortez and she and the progressive democrats in the democratic party because the republicans gain so many seats they now have the leverage to force a vote on basically anything they want i think they're within five votes of the majority right like it's like the house is very very i think i think the democrats have a six or seven seat majority right now which means if the progressives went to nancy pelosi and said unless you give us a floor vote on these issues we will not vote for you for speaker in which case the republicans could gain control to a certain degree they're still the minority oh for sure so you have jimmy dore who is he's progressive but he's populist and i think he's a good dude and he said you were elected to do this do it now they won't do it
Starting point is 01:17:11 they won't challenge nancy pelosi nancy pelosi in her weakest position yet wants to be wants to be re-elected speaker and they have the leverage to say no to her and they won't they won't no because i mean look say what you will about nancy pelosi but she's shrewd she she's she's a ruthless And they won't do it. which happened in my race, by the way, you know, she funneled $1.2 million of dark super pack money into PA 17 against me. I would argue that it didn't work. I mean, maybe it worked enough. Did the mail-in voting work? No.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Well, the mail-in voting worked real well for the Democrats, you know. Oh, so you want to hear the latest on this? Yeah, what's going on? So the last time I was on the show, we talked about how there were 13,000 mystery mail-in ballots that were infused into my race the day after election day.
Starting point is 01:18:13 We don't know where they came from. Now, this number of mail-ins, Republican, Democrat, Independent, Other, they're not projections. We know what that number is and we knew what that number was on election day
Starting point is 01:18:23 and we knew what it was on election night. On election night what it was on election night. On election night, there was no honest mathematical path for my opponent to win. Period. End of story. News outlets had called the race. Leader McCarthy called me to congratulate me. Any way you cut it, there was going to be a two percentage point victory for me.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Right. It was over. McCarthy called you at the exact moment that the ballot dumps were happening the day after election day at night. Wow. At the exact moment that the ballot dumps were happening the day after election day at night. And so for five weeks, we've been asking Allegheny County, where did these 13,000 ballots come from? Now, they were dropped in two successive dumps, one at four, one of 4000 votes, one of 9000 votes. They were all for Conor Lamb, Democrat, almost exclusively for Biden and Lamb. Right. Where did they come from? Where did they come from?
Starting point is 01:19:02 We've been asking them for we've been asking Allegheny County for weeks. We never got a response from Allegheny County. We had a great, we had a real great reporter in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. She asked them, finally got a response in like the first week of December. And you want to know what the, where are these 13,000 ballots? What's the chain of custody? Their answer was Mr. Parnell had a representative at our facility and signed out at 6.58 p.m. before the work was completed. And I said, that's like, first of all, they didn't answer the question. That's like the police officer saying to a shoplifter,
Starting point is 01:19:34 sir, did you steal those groceries? And the shoplifter shrugging his shoulders and saying, well, the cashier was off. They didn't answer the question. They're just brazenly laughing in our faces at this. And, and my gosh, if you, we can't even talk about it without your show getting,
Starting point is 01:19:51 we can't even talk about any of this stuff without getting banned or disputed on social media, but I'm living this every single day. And look, this isn't about me. Like my God, look, being a representative of,
Starting point is 01:20:02 of, of the people by and for the people in Congress would have been an honor of a lifetime. I take it seriously. But, you know, I had a pretty good life before running for Congress. I take a pretty big pay cut going into Congress. So my point is this. This is not about Conor Lamb and me. This isn't about Joe Biden and Trump.
Starting point is 01:20:18 This is about we talked about the Democrats and the radical left controlling every cultural institution, whether it's the media, entertainment, education, YouTube, social media, big tech. And now, Tim, they control the ballot box. This is a problem. And so we have we we've got to work out the kinks in this election. I don't know. It doesn't matter. God doesn't matter where the chips fall. And I would even be willing to say, look, 2020 people voted in good faith. Let's keep 2020 as is
Starting point is 01:20:45 but we have to fix and reform the system going forward otherwise no one is going to have faith and i know where you're going to go with this where am i going to go because even if we say 2020 was this was fubar right 2020 was real messed up even if we get a positive ruling from the supreme court and the supreme court says yeah act 77 is unconstitutional 2020 was jacked up but fix it going forward. You're going to have 50% of the state of Pennsylvania saying, wait, what? The election in Pennsylvania was unconstitutional and illegal in 2020, and you're forcing me to accept it? Yep.
Starting point is 01:21:13 So this is why I say this is a constitutional crisis. So say you say 2020 is messed up, we're moving forward, deal with it. 50% of the people are going to not accept it. But then on the flip side of that, you say Act 77 is unconstitutional and every mail-in ballot that's sent in under that unconstitutional system is getting thrown out. That's also explosive because those people cast their ballots in good faith. We went to the court, Tim, which is precisely how our system of government is designed to help us provide, to help us give a remedy to what we believe is a constitutional crisis.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Because we got to have some clarity on this election and every election moving forward. And what point, what. You want to, you want to know what's going to happen next? Oh, tell me. Tell me. I think Democrats are going to win in Georgia. And then Joe Biden's going to become president. And then they're going to pack the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Maybe, maybe. because you might get you might get like a mansion democrat who's like i refuse to allow this yeah but uh the reason why i think they're gonna win in georgia is because what i've often said is trump's not on the ballot and people don't like the republican party they like trump and they like the new wave of trump republicans this it's a smaller group relative to political establishment. But the runoff in Georgia is on January 5th. On January 6th, Alex Jones, many others say they're going to be in D.C. with 10 million people. Yeah. How many people from Georgia are going to pack their bags on the 5th to drive perhaps not vote in Georgia? Exactly. I know it's concerning for sure that that can't happen, though, Tim. I mean, you're right. Look, let's say let's war game this.
Starting point is 01:22:46 If the Democrats win in Georgia, I think without question they will try to pack the court. Don't believe me. This isn't what I think. They've said it. They're going to make two more states. We'll probably be Democrat senators representing those states. We're going to do a D.C. and Puerto Rico. D.C. and Puerto Rico.
Starting point is 01:23:02 They're going to probably ditch the Electoral College. Again, don't believe me. They've said it. They've said it. I think that would require two-thirds ratification. So that, they can't do anything about it. They're going to try to do it. But it won't matter.
Starting point is 01:23:12 I don't think. I think they've already changed the rules beyond the electoral college. Right. Yeah. I see what you mean. It won't matter. Yeah. It won't matter.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Look, the fact that they've done universal mail-in voting, they've obliterated the chain of custody for our election system. They've ripped security away from it. Nancy Pelosi wanted to get rid of voter ID. They want no security in their elections while they screamed that we had insecure elections for four years. And listen, every pundit, at least in the state of Pennsylvania, the general sentiment is, well, Democrat in the White House, Republicans pick up seat in the off year, right? That's just always been the historical trend. The party that holds the White House, the opposite party picks up seats that year. But in the state of Pennsylvania, I don't think the people realize the paradigm shift that happened in 2020. There was something
Starting point is 01:23:57 called as part of Act 77 called the automatic opt-in. So during the highest presidential voter turnout in our nation's history, the Democrats sent out something like two plus million mail-in. So during the highest presidential voter turnout in our nation's history, the Democrats sent out something like two plus million mail-in ballots. If you got a ballot application and you check the automatic opt-in, you get a ballot sent to you for every election until the day that you die. And if you're a Democrat, probably after that as well. But my point is, the idea that all of those people all of those democrats are going to get ballots in the off cycle in the off cycle right so they're feasibly feasibly they could have a presidential voter turnout in a mid-cycle in the state of pennsylvania which is this democrats only get
Starting point is 01:24:37 elected with low information voters and i'm not saying that to disparage your average democrat voter but the fact that you've had Democrats talking about lowering the voting age to 16 is all the proof I need to say Democrats survive off of low information voters. People who aren't. So listen, why do you why do they want universal mail in voting? Well, the left says to make it easier for people to vote. Should someone who has no idea what they're voting for or who they're voting for vote? My personal opinion? No. That's why I don't like we talked about quite a bit. vote. Should someone who has no idea what they're voting for or who they're voting for vote? My personal opinion? No. That's why I don't like, we talked about this quite a bit,
Starting point is 01:25:13 getting rid of the Democrat and Republican, getting rid of parties on ballots. Imagine you got a flyer in the mail, or imagine you go to vote and you see Conor Lamb, Sean Parnell, no Democrat, no Republican, just the names. The only people who are going to get the votes are the people who are like, I like Sean Parnell or I like Conor Lamb. Now what happens is you get a ballot in the mail and they go, Democrat. They don't know what they're voting for. They don't know why they're voting for it. And that's what Democrats thrive on. We can't function if people just are saying, I don't know, party, boop, and they're not really voting for anything other than team. Then you end up with people who sell you out to, say, China china and that's what we're headed towards i don't you know what man i think the democrats this was their uh their reckless abandon their desperate attempt to
Starting point is 01:25:52 get enough votes to beat trump by waking as like waking many people to politics getting them as active as possible and angry as possible and now we're all sitting sitting here watching this relief bill this ridiculous omnibus spending bill everybody basically hates it everybody's democrats hate it left the leftists hate it conservatives hate it trump supporters hate it they're they're they're throwing it in our faces and laughing so at this point i think the establishment is rather content mitch mcconnell is already telling other senators not to support trump on january 6th uh you know don't don't do it he's already planning to override trump's veto trump wants to veto the defense spending bill well the republicans never had his back they were only forced to have his back
Starting point is 01:26:35 because they knew that trump had the support of the people well let me tell you man i think that's a huge look if if that's the case if what you true, you know, it'd be a huge mistake for any Republican in the House or the Senate to to run away or distance themselves from the president. He is by far the most popular president in our nation's history, period. And no, I don't include Joe Biden in that count because I'm sorry. Look, you could say what I don't want to get you in trouble on YouTube or whatever. So I just I don't believe that he got 80 million votes. The guy, the guy, the guy never left his basement. He doesn't inspire anybody.
Starting point is 01:27:12 He did not have a single message. He can't string together a single coherent sentence there. And this idea of widespread voter fraud, I disagree with it. I disagree with it. I think I think the fraud was very surgical. And if you look at the red waves happened everywhere except for in areas that in counties that Democrats
Starting point is 01:27:31 absolutely had to win. It was a zero-sum game. Look at John James in Michigan. Look at Derek Van Orden, Navy SEAL in Wisconsin. Those two guys lost. Me and PA17. In the areas that Democrats had to win and counties that they had to win to carry key battleground states. They want red wave everywhere else in Allegheny County.
Starting point is 01:27:54 The president didn't lose the state of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, right? That's not where he lost. He lost the state of Pennsylvania and Allegheny County, where Joe Biden had the second highest voter turnout ever to Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964. But by the way, by the way, Joe Biden got a couple thousand fewer votes than Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964. But in 1964, Allegheny County was 30 percent more popular. There is a very easy, simple explanation. The media had been screaming Orange Man bad nonstop.
Starting point is 01:28:28 That's correct. And then they launched universal mail-in voting. And so what I was saying was in the month or two leading up to the election, you're going to have – this is really funny. I don't know who said this to me. I said you're going to have a parent. The mail-in ballots are going to come into the House, and they're going to go to their kids who are like, you know, 18, 20. And they're going to be like, did you vote yet? You got to vote. You got to vote for the Democrat. And the kids are like, I don't care, mom. And then I think it was maybe Michael Malice who said, no,
Starting point is 01:28:53 it's gonna be the way around. The college kids come home and go to their parents and go, we got our ballots. You got to vote and you got to vote for the Democrats. And the parents go, sure, fine, whatever. I think one of the reasons why we see many of these votes were just for biden nobody else was because these people don't vote they were like orange man bad have a nice day well look a couple a couple things like let's just say let's see let's just even say there was let's just even say there was no fraud right none whatsoever i still can bill bar said there was well of course there was there there there was fraud, right? There was. But Bill Barr said not enough to affect the outcome.
Starting point is 01:29:27 This was a new statement. Look, yeah. Look, my point is, let's just pretend that there was none. This is still not a free and fair election. You had the media parroting nonstop lies about the president every single day. The mainstream media, most in the media and then you had big tech censoring stories that would have probably made people switch their vote from joe biden to donald trump the hunter biden story is a prime example of that he had the oldest newspaper in the country
Starting point is 01:29:55 right the new york post come out with a story that was perfectly vetted fact check perfectly had tony bobaliski come out the media ignored it a hundred percent like something like 10 of the people who learned about this after the fact said hey if they knew about this hunter biden story going into november 3rd they probably would not have voted for for joe biden and that right there in and of itself is enough to switch the outcome of the election so the democrats control the cultural institutions and yeah and so yeah it's it's a problem and now now now with with act 77 and in the mail-in ballots specifically in in Pennsylvania, they control the ballot box, too. Dude, you have secret ballot counting.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Days after the election was done, November 5th and 6th, they're still counting on this foreign proprietary voter machine. Canadian corporation built this proprietary voting machine that counts in secret. I don't know anything about days after they need to know how many they need. No, no, the voting machine, the problem with the voting machines is not that they're counting in secret. There's proper tabulation on these things.
Starting point is 01:30:55 The problem is that when Trump campaign and others sued, they were, they were, the lawsuits were thrown out on procedural grounds. The problem is, it's not that they were proper improper. It's that we don't know in Arizona. Well we don't know anything i know there's no transparency well that's that's a lack of transparency i should say that is in arizona when they filed
Starting point is 01:31:13 subpoenas for the voting machines to actually get the forensic analysis you can see the vote counts you can see the signatures they're not doing it oh they gave us one that's like what are those no they blocked it and they said we're going to court and we're not going to follow the subpoenas they got subpoenaed and said f you we won't listen and in georgia when trump said we want a hard signature audit they said no and they did like these sample audits so every single time there's been someone saying can we look at these machines it's been a no and the one time we did in antrim county the report came out saying widespread that the mission they they claimed in this report they were intentional errors in like 68 to force adjudication so an election official could choose where the vote goes that's the
Starting point is 01:31:56 problem so yeah transparency i would tell you can i i'll tell you what happened very simply in the state of pennsylvania right there are all sorts of issues with this election. You're looking at changes that were made in the middle of the game. Right. Unconstitutional changes to our election code and to voting in the middle of the game. Right. The secretary of state in the state of Pennsylvania said we're going to remove the signature verification for ballots. We're going to move any for mail in ballots.
Starting point is 01:32:22 We're going to remove the postmark requirement for any mail in ballot. We're going to remove any semb mail-in ballots. We're going to remove the postmark requirement for any mail-in ballot. We're going to remove any semblance of a deadline for a mail-in ballot. This was just a few weeks before the election. So my point is they used COVID to create chaos at the top. They changed the rules at the last minute at the top, right? And then add to that at the next tier down, you had what what i what i call zuckerberg money that was invested in heavily democratic counties like allegheny county i think got 2.2 million dollars i don't know it wasn't from zuckerberg directly but it was it was from a shell corporation or something like that you can look it up on on google right now and find it to pay election judges to boost their salaries right this is this is all just look it up. I don't think that this is legal by the way,
Starting point is 01:33:06 but I haven't seen lawsuits on it yet, but you bank on it. There will be lawsuits on this where they boosted the salaries of judges of elections. They created remote satellite voting facilities where people could just show up at like an ice rink and cast their ballot. And they, and they funded drop boxes.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Yeah. And they funded drop boxes. And then they had, and then, and then beyond that, and you had this, this issue in a Beaver County nursing homes that I've looked at, like granny harvesting, ballot harvesting in nursing homes. You have, you have, you have ballots and issues of ballots of, of, of zero chains of custody in PA 17 that were cast that we had stories and affidavits from people who, who have,
Starting point is 01:33:43 who heard people voting twice, right? They mailed in a ballot and then they voted provisional. I mean, there are all sorts of issues with this. And all I'm saying, right, is that we should look into it. This is the first time that we've used an all mail-in system or no excuse absentee system in the state of Pennsylvania. This is the first time it's ever happened in the middle of a once in a hundred year pandemic is it not okay to think critically about this and say let's look into this a little bit to make sure that everything went as it was supposed to go because every ballot
Starting point is 01:34:15 that was cast illegally cancels out a ballot if someone showed up on election day to vote there's no political willpower there's some there's there's listen it's like i was it's like i was saying the democrats will come into the into Congress and propose a bill to burn down the House, and Republicans will say, only burn down the kitchen. Instead of arguing, how about we don't burn down the House, they say, well, we'll negotiate with you on what you're asking for. What upsets me is that how is it the responsibility of the citizen to prove these things? Is it not the responsibility of the government to prove to things is it not the responsibility of the government to prove to the people that their elections are free and we are the government yes and is it not the responsibility of the media to be a watchdog for the people and ask
Starting point is 01:34:53 real questions for the states yes and this is why i'm pretty pessimistic on where we go next because the media in this country is they're democrats that's true i mean the the overwhelming majority of all of these big media companies are pro-democrat they would not report on hunter biden even though it's probably one of the biggest stories of the decade of or longer and so they're not watchdogs they're advocates and so you have advocates and we are headed towards california style one party rule you know you know what i love about california a year or so ago probably two years ago i was reporting on the rise of medieval diseases in california because their their their government has failed and it's basically democrat supermajority in all of these big cities and they saw a bubonic plague and like
Starting point is 01:35:43 typhus. All of that happening just before COVID happened. They were the worst prepared place. Their policies were failures. And you look at New York, which was the worst affected. And once again, Democrat controlled. So I would think it's not Democrat. It's a corporatist issue. They're corporatists masked with that Democrat phrase.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Of course, they chose to ally with that party for the moment they're they're cronies and it's republicans too it's just that when trump came into the republican party some people sided with him and new people have now gotten elected and would have been one someone like yourself a lot of the new republicans that are coming in are good regular people and supporters of the president and the working class individuals populists i suppose but there's too many i mean the democratic party is almost exclusively like crony corporate types and the republican party is a lot of them so i don't know i don't know how you change that we got to work outside the system there's no fixing that system from within we need to an external blockchain voting system that goes in tandem, something that works in tandem with the broken system so that you can outshine it.
Starting point is 01:36:49 I see what you're saying. But listen, I just had to explain to somebody how the government printing 35 percent of all U.S. dollars in 10 months was taking away their buying power. I'll tell you what civil disobedience, not paying that debt back. They don't understand what that means. And the little response is, what do you mean? The government's giving me $600. These people who are voting, who are being given mail-in ballots universally, just appearing in their mailbox. They're going, oh, I get $600.
Starting point is 01:37:17 You're using an anecdotal argument. You know some stupid people. That doesn't mean we can't work outside the system. That is nothing. What are you talking about? You're saying this anecdotal idiot that's like, I got 600, bro. That means that everyone, they're too stupid to create a new system. I don't think that's true. People understand that the lockdown is destroying their by power and transferring
Starting point is 01:37:34 their wealth to the wealthy. I think they're capable of understanding that. Yeah. Yes. And so the problem right now is you creating a voting system won't change the fact that people don't understand how they are getting ripped off by crony fake representatives. I'm not trying to solve the problem of people getting ripped off with a new voting system. There are different problems we're talking about right now. Then why did you bring it up? Because we need something that's transparent when we're talking about voting and how corrupting the system by putting votes into the hands of people who have not been properly informed and educated because the media class is controlled by the Democratic Party. So instead of being told, here's why you should vote for this.
Starting point is 01:38:15 If you like this, this is for you. If you like this is for you. They're saying this person's a fascist. You have to vote for this. And then regular people who don't care, don't pay attention, who have been inundated for it for four years about the evil cheeto dictator get about in their mailbox and go yeah trump is bad i guess well i like your idea of taking r and d off but i don't think you can ever stop you know manipulation um media manipulation we just got to roll with that well we the problem is we have a corrupt uh big tech is the is the main issue. If we had an honest, sensor-free social media, then people would start to get upset with seeing fake news and then seek out alternatives.
Starting point is 01:38:52 You can't do that because Google will ban you. You can't even talk about some of these lawsuits because Google will ban you. I mean, we can't even say – I can't even say words in a certain sequence for YouTube. I know. It's hilarious. Well, I mean, and the thing is, is that these aren't, this isn't like just me speculating, like, you know, release the crack. You're involved in a lawsuit. I'm seeing it.
Starting point is 01:39:13 I'm involved in a lawsuit. I'm seeing it firsthand. This is not just me. And this is not, this is, this is not about me winning an election or Trump winning an election. This is about Democrats and Republicans having faith in the system and you know democrats right now i mean i i find it funny when a lot of like you know establishment democrats or well everybody basically in the state of pennsylvania from the governor to the attorney general to the to the secretary they all attack me now
Starting point is 01:39:37 but they attack me as if i'm a republican and what i'm doing is that for the benefit of the republican party no that's not true no it doesn't matter but it works the what I'm doing is that for the benefit of the Republican Party. No, that's not true. No, it doesn't matter. But the thing is for me is that I'm actually fighting for Democrats, too, now, because they might find themselves on the receiving end of unconstitutional mandates from from a Republican governor someday that they might not like very much. And so it's we got to get rid of I think we really got to get rid of party lists on ballots. I think that would be a big first step to solving this.
Starting point is 01:40:08 If somebody goes in, if they get if they get a ballot, they might know Trump is bad, so they might not vote for him. Right. But if they get a ballot that says Conor Lamb, Sean Parnell, and they don't know who you are, then what do they vote for? Right now, people are voting on party lines. And that's the problem because you end up, if you do that over a long enough period of time, we just had a transgender Satanist anarchist win the Republican primary in New Hampshire for sheriff because people just saw the Republican and voted for her. And once they found out who they voted for, they freaked out.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Like, I can't believe I voted for this. And it was like, that's interesting. That's your fault. I didn't, I heard something. I saw something about that, but yeah, that's interesting. So I think that getting rid of parties will be a good step because people might just go in. I guess the problem there is people might just vote for the first name. And then whatever's on the ballot.
Starting point is 01:40:52 So we have to figure out. It's tough. It really is. Look, I'll tell you this. I don't know if solution's the problem. But I'm fairly, fairly pessimistic to the point where I'm going to be buying a large property in West Virginia. And, you know, now to be completely honest, you know, I don't want to make it sound like we're buying this property in West Virginia because we're freaking out and fleeing or anything. We're doing it so that we can have ATVs and like film videos and do, you know, skateboard jumps and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:41:23 But I don't want to live in a city. That's true. You know, I don't want to live in a city. That's true. You know, I don't want to be anywhere near these cities right now because the riots, because the potential for unrest. And I don't know what's going to happen come January 6th, but people are going to get angry. I think people look, I don't disagree that we live at a highly divided time. I don't disagree that maybe there are some rough times ahead. But I don't think that I'm still going to fight like hell for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and for this country. I'm still going to fight to represent the people, whether you have a rank as a captain in the military or title of congressman or senator or governor.
Starting point is 01:41:59 None of that titles don't matter. Okay. don't matter okay uh but fighting for this country and fighting for really our children to make sure that they inherit a country that's rich with opportunity regardless of their political views that's worth fighting for for me and yeah you know i'm gonna stay in the fight for that reason and that reason alone um right on and so i i'm not gonna run from it you know i i'm like i'm like a week away from painting my face blue and riding a horse on Harrisburg to lift these lockdowns. I'm so sick and tired of it because I'm sick and tired of seeing people struggle. I never thought in my whole life that you'd see food lines in my hometown every single week by
Starting point is 01:42:35 the thousands before Thanksgiving and Christmas. It's not okay. The government does not have a right to deny your ability to make a living dude in this technology era where we can where we have access to vertical farms and electricity almost at will why is there so much poverty why is there so much debt owed to the the private bank the federal reserve now why why well the the issue of poverty is that it's relative if you're comparing somebody who makes less than thirteen thousand dollars a year but has a refrigerator and air conditioning clean running water to somebody in like 1900 who was poor it's dramatically different that person would be considered very wealthy by that by those standards the saying goes that a person living in poverty in the united states today has better
Starting point is 01:43:15 dental care than rockefeller did when he was you know the richest guy but they're they're in debt well i would i would i would say i would also say that everything that you said is true of course poverty is relative but i would also say that many of the people that are in these food lines today were forced into poverty by their government. system got shunted into the calcified bureaucracy of our unemployment system in the state of Pennsylvania. We're never able to access the unemployment funds for them. So not only were they forced into poverty by our government in the state of Pennsylvania, they weren't able to access their own benefits because of the government. So now many people find themselves in food lines because of the government.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Now I'm just opposed to that. I'm opposed to government intervention in our lives is a bad thing. I think people, if left to their own devices, you know, again, we can protect ourselves from COVID and we can allow people to make a living. People need to be responsible for themselves,
Starting point is 01:44:19 but we should, we should go to super chat. Wait, before we go to super, are you going to open my gift? I am right before we go to super chats right now. Oh, I put you on the spot. You don't have to open. No. Hey, wait. Before we go to Super Chats, are you going to open my gift? I am. Right before we go to Super Chats, right now. Oh, I put you on the spot. You don't have to open my gift.
Starting point is 01:44:28 No, no, no. I was going to do it right before we started Super Chats. You just beat me to it. Okay. You guys are on the way. Now, he talked about this gift ahead of time, and he listed all these cool things that he thinks it might be, and it was none of those things. And now I'm really worried that you're not going to like any of these things.
Starting point is 01:44:40 It's going to be awesome. So Sean got me a present, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Is that a 5,000 pages of a COVID relief bill? I didn't wrap it. I didn't wrap it. Melanie wrapped it
Starting point is 01:44:52 because she's like literally the best rapper ever. You said it's something I asked for? Yes, it's something that you asked for. It's going to be really awful and embarrassing and get a ban from YouTube? No, God no. No, but now I feel like it's going to be totally underwhelming.
Starting point is 01:45:04 Let's see. The wrapping. I'm like it's going to be totally underwhelming. Let's see. The wrapping. I'm sure it's great. But it's not an... That's just a box underneath it. So you have to go... Just open the box. It's Christmas, everybody.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Yay. You remind me of Ralphie from The Christmas Story. Well, I don't want to... There's not going to be a pink bunny suit. No, but there's a label on the front. That's why I'm trying to... Oh, oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:22 It kind of docks you. Oops. What is this? Oh. what is this oh this is a pretty good present open them up this is a pretty good present we got here yeah maybe a little bit self-serving yes perfect here but here's the deal these these are all these are all my books and so for the people that are watching for the people that are watching you guys didn't even know that i really wrote books before i came on the show i don't come on to this program and hawk my product. What's All Out War about? These are all my books.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Outlaw Platoon. Tim, back me up here. I have never come on the show. I don't hawk a product on your show. Of course not. You know that. You bring me a present. You told me to bring it.
Starting point is 01:46:00 Yes. I showed up. I come out. You're here, and there's a box. I'm like, oh. And you're like, I got a gift for you. I'm like, cool. And then you're like, it's there's a box. I'm like, oh. And you're like, I got a gift for you. I'm like, cool. And then you're like, it's something you asked for.
Starting point is 01:46:07 I'm like, great. It is. And then I'm like, oh, I'll open it on the show. And you're like, oh, if you want to. I'm like, all right. This was a very clever move. No, it wasn't like that. It wasn't like that.
Starting point is 01:46:14 You told me. Look, if I were going to hawk my book on – Four books. I would have brought it the first time. You didn't even know I wrote fiction. Yeah, not until I – I don't talk about this stuff. I'm just yanking you.
Starting point is 01:46:25 You're like, the last time I was here, you're like, you should bring your books. You should bring your books. Yeah, I did. So you got me your books? That's great. Ableton is my nonfiction book, but these are all my fiction books. And we talk about the left controlling levers of power and cultural institutions. Well, these books, like One True Patri is is my latest book right and in these books i write
Starting point is 01:46:46 about the threats that that like the threats that we face today right that like so in in one true patriot this massive cyber attack that penetrated all of our government institutions and and the department of the are all five branches of the military the office of the president that i wrote about that happening in one true patriot months ago ago. So I try to look at the greatest threats that we face and put them in a story, an accessible story that people can have fun with. Wow. Yeah, wow. This is a franchise of books. What's the nonfiction one about?
Starting point is 01:47:17 If you like guns and stuff and tech, which I know you do, there's lots of cool guns in the fiction. Is that one about your platoon? Yeah, this is the book. Outlaw platoon came out in 2012 i started writing in 2007 but that book became like an instant new york times bestseller it was in 10 countries i think it just came out in china um is it about your platoon yeah it's about my platoon 400 were you guys forced to like disobey orders and become outlaws or something i've gotten that i've gotten that question before. But no, that's just the name of my potato.
Starting point is 01:47:49 That's awesome. But yeah. So like I was thinking like the power of Tim's audience is kind of amazing. Like if one true patriot or any like can you imagine like if one true patriot becomes a bestseller and I'm already a bestselling author. So I don't I'm not saying like this is like a thing that I need, but I think that I would make you a main care. I just put you in the next book. I think I would.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Oh, good idea. I'll make you the bad guy. Yes. I'll make you whatever you want in the next book. You could be, you could be in the alpha program. What's the alpha program?
Starting point is 01:48:22 Oh, with the alpha. So the, so I kind of created the, oh, that's right. That's right. You told me about told me about last time yeah so like there were all these times in afghanistan where we get these missions to go after these targets and like we know exactly where the guy was well hey i'm just let's just take my platoon over there let's get this guy right now
Starting point is 01:48:36 like what we can get him i can see him he's standing right there but you have to go through all these layers of bureaucracy before you get clearance by the time you get clearance he's gone he's gone so i said well what if we developed a program called the Alpha Program that didn't have to adhere to any sort of bureaucracy, that gave the president a third option between diplomacy and war, right? All-out war. And in this case, he'd lean on the Alphas. We used to have that.
Starting point is 01:48:59 We used to have that. Yeah, back in the day. A long time ago. Yeah. So the Alpha Program was created in the wake of the OSS after World War II. There are nine Alphas in the Alpha program, each assigned to a different geographic area of the globe. Right? And these books follow Eric Steele, who is the youngest Alpha.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Part of the program is he's the president's favorite. And so the president, he's like the president's fixer he sends him into you know really hot situations to fix global problems and so it's sort of like a tom clancy vince flynn blend of of a you know military political thriller and so now you need video games and movies well before i started running for political office that's exactly what i was trying to do out there. Working with some of these Hollywood producers to make a Netflix series and do all this cool, sexy stuff. Writing stories and fiction is always something I've been passionate about. But I did not do this to hawk this product on your show. I hope you know that.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Oh, no. I didn't even mention the fact that I wrote fiction when I first came here. That's true. You did not. Well, now we'll have him chilling and we'll read some Super Chats. You're actually going to read them because I'm going to quiz you. Do it. You're not going to read them.
Starting point is 01:50:09 To be honest, probably not. You've got to do your book on tape. But listen, listen. We had Alex Jones on the show and he asked me to come on his show. And I was like, eh. And people were like, Tim, why won't you just at least lie to people? I'm not going to do it. I'll tell you right now.
Starting point is 01:50:23 The reason why I probably won't read them is because i'm working all the time well i know you work non-stop you're the you're the hardest worker i know have you read them done like a book on uh audiobook no i mean i don't read any of those actually you gotta do i'll probably read outlaw platoon for sure that looks awesome yeah yeah the the like because this is this the kind of stuff the perspective the real world stuff for you know fiction and entertainment stuff for the most part i'll play some video games is like in some downtime if i need to like you know get out but this is the kind of thing i'll probably like read at night just because it's like actual real world conflict war and stuff that's yeah yeah well that's the important stuff you asked me to bring
Starting point is 01:50:58 them so i brought them and thanks for the book they were wrapped up but i'll tell you this uh they will be read absolutely almost immediately by people here yeah so man of war is the first one all out war is the second okay yeah one true you don't have they're all standalone stories but have the same character i'm working on book four now which is all about china and all about uh the next level virus that that comes like like covet 19 was really just an economic and political songbird the movie no covid 22 or whatever oh god well i'm not so i don't call it covid because i if i ever if i ever the word covid one more time uh i can't but well let's uh let's read some super chats because we got people who have asked some questions all right let's see what's uh student of history says the cops aren't praetorian Guard.
Starting point is 01:51:45 Praetorian Guard liked offing the emperor and auctioning the position would be more like mercenaries. Pay the gold and they do whatever you ask regardless of morals. That was the Varangian Guard. That was the Byzantine cadre. Let's see. Talbot Link says, I'm alive today exactly because I disregarded two orders and was proven right while enlisted. All branches have troops that do the same spread around. That's that's it.
Starting point is 01:52:10 That's exactly. That's it. Did you ever encounter a situation where you had to defy orders? No, no, no, no. Because anybody who did or yes. Yeah. I mean, one of my friends, Dakota Meyer, was awarded the Medal of Honor for it. Whoa, really?
Starting point is 01:52:24 What did he do? I've heard of him before. Oh, Dakota Meyer, was awarded the Medal of Honor for it. Whoa. Really? What did he do? I've heard of him before. Oh, Dakota Meyer is an amazing guy. I mean, Dakota Meyer. I mean, you read it. Just Google and read his story. He won the Medal of Honor in Afghanistan. What's the gist of it?
Starting point is 01:52:34 Well, I mean, he ran in and out of fire. Yeah. He ran in a fire to save people's lives like five or six times. He tells the story. Not to do it or whatever. Yeah. Yes. He's on Jocko Willings podcast and explains the whole thing it's insane yeah about going into the valley he was on
Starting point is 01:52:50 that podcast i think i don't know what episode he was he was like but i was episode 192 i think he was on before that but i talk about yeah dakota's an amazing guy but he got awarded the medal of honor for disobeying orders and i mean i for the for the most part i mean i had great commanders in afghanistan and in the field i was the one issuing commands you know yeah as the commander and so um i mean there were there were i didn't i didn't encounter any of those situations right on that's good wonder racing llc says sean parnell one of the last great american politicians and he puts in quotes left in western pa and our great state of pa keep fighting sean millions of patriots are behind you i will i will keep fighting i will you can bank on that andrew lance says tim as a typical christian
Starting point is 01:53:34 voter all we want from our reps is for them to stop the left at the federal level we don't want them to invoke intrusive legislation we want to be left alone from federal government your mandatory gun analogy angers me to no end it's not not my analogy. It was actually Michael Malice. And the point was that the left will impose things, but the right doesn't argue on a right wing arguments terms. So I'm talking about a better example is the lockdown. The Democratic governor shut everything down, destroyed the economy. Then they'll say, okay, now that we've destroyed everything, you're relying on us and we'll give you a check.
Starting point is 01:54:06 Instead of Republicans saying, open everything back up and stop suppressing people's rights, they say, well, hold on, let's give them less money. That's not an argument against what the Democrats have already done. I think a better analogy for the gun thing would be like, you know, Barack Obama says you have to buy health care, otherwise you get fined. It's basically, you know, criminal in some capacity. Then Republicans should have said, OK, if you want that, then you have to pass this bill that says 2A shall not be infringed, period, in any capacity. Something to defend the rights of people.
Starting point is 01:54:37 There's never there's rarely, I should say, arguments from Republicans saying here's what we are asking for and we want. If what you're saying is true. Until President Trump, right? Right, exactly. trump does that you're saying that uh people want to be left alone from federal government okay where are the republicans right now putting bills forward saying the federal government you know and and and government the government in general shouldn't be locking down and suppressing people's rights we just don't have it did you hear that i heard that yeah you have it in me you have it in me right i'm saying yeah me. Right. I'm saying it. Well, no. So we have it. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:55:06 We have it in Trump. Right. And that's why Trump won, because finally, absolutely working class people and conservatives are tired of getting politicians who all they would do is wag the finger at Democrats and then give them what they want. That's right. What did someone someone told me? Republicans, what do they do?
Starting point is 01:55:20 They roll over for Democrats. That's that's what they're known for. The establishment Republicans. A ghost says, System is broken because people only know how to talk, but not how to act. The First Amendment was written when people believed in things like chivalry. Atlas will still shrug. Well, deeds, yeah, he's right.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Deeds, not words, right? You know? Yeah. Jack Bailey says, The Bible says that in the last seven years before the rapture that one of the nations that one of the nations that come about is represented by a lion with eagle's wings and the eagle's wings shall be plucked and the lion will stand as a man with a heart really i'll look into it page in pa says sean what are your thoughts on a federal uh on a federal single subject rule similar to that in Article 3, Section 3 of the PA Constitution?
Starting point is 01:56:07 Oh, my God. Really? I have no idea. I don't know how to answer that question. Do you know what Article 3 is? No. I have to look at the PA Constitution. I mean, I feel like I'm failing this person's question.
Starting point is 01:56:20 I am not an attorney. I rely on attorneys to advise me on things, and then I develop my own arguments based on that legal advice. But I am a knuckle-dragging warrior. I'm not an attorney, and I won't even pretend to be one on your show. All right. Although I need to. You know what, though? I will get an answer for that.
Starting point is 01:56:42 I will get an answer for that question, and, Tim, I'll get it to you on your next podcast. So I don't know, but I'll tell that person who asked the question. What was the name? Paige from PA. Paige. I will get Paige an answer. Paige in PA. Paige, I will get an answer for you.
Starting point is 01:56:58 I don't know, but I will get an answer for you. We got a comment from someone who really doesn't like you. You want to hear it? Yes. It's a big super chat too he basically said um pound sign at symbol 1k you parnell so i guess he's saying f you parnell it's obvious that you're a hack i hope that your quote political career ends up with you humiliated and exposed as the leech that you apparently are leech what am i leeching off of i don't know you apparently write books and you're already doing pretty well for yourself. So I get that a lot.
Starting point is 01:57:26 Yeah. That's right. I mean, yeah. Okay. Merry Christmas, dude. All right. Let's see. Wandering Mage says, Tim, could you imagine if entire Republican counties decided to become
Starting point is 01:57:41 autonomous zones with the declaration that they would not pay federal taxes to protest the nonsense political decisions. What do you think for a super chat? It's very simple. If any large group of people decides to do something, they instantly win. That's exactly right. Government derives its power from the consent of the governed. Yes. So if every single person in the country just went about their lives like normal, there
Starting point is 01:58:04 would not be a lockdown because you'd have you'd have Cuomo being like, why won't anybody do anything? And no one listens to him. If nobody listens to Cuomo, he's just a raving lunatic standing on the street corner screaming about how he's supposed to be in power. If all of these Republican counties said we're autonomous, they would be. And what's the government going to do? Imagine this. I mean, how many Republican counties are there? Like 3,000 or whatever?
Starting point is 01:58:26 Because they're less populated than the Democrat tightly packed ones. What's going to happen? The National Guard going to get deployed? The IRS going to get deployed to all these different places? I'm not saying it's a good thing. I think breaking up this country or civil war or anything like that would result in the U.S. becoming extremely weakened. And then China is going to be laughing all the way to subverting and destroying the country faster than they already are.
Starting point is 01:58:47 So we really, you know, I've heard a lot of people say peaceful divorce, and I get it because they don't want violence and stuff. But that means we're already in deep trouble. It's only peaceful if both people want it to. I don't want that. I want to preserve this great country. This country is great. And by the way, like diverse political opinions is also good like
Starting point is 01:59:05 discourse and debate is also good like that guy that said f you to me okay that's great um i don't mind that i can take it i put myself out in the public sphere if people don't like what i have to say they're they're more than entitled to say that but the difference is i won't censor them because i disagree with them it's crazy how like you know uh there are a lot of people on the left to insult me for a variety of reasons. It's funny. I get the same. The Young Turks did a segment basically calling me ugly for like for no reason either. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:59:34 That's how that's how they it's how the radical left is. That's what they do. Well, they just attack. They attack you personally. They attack you personal life. I mean, we did a homonym. I think we did a segment where I was citing. There's like five different studies that show conservatives tend to be more attractive than than liberals. And I was pointing out that a feminist explained this to me as a way to describe privilege.
Starting point is 01:59:52 Somebody who's been attractive their whole life has had an easier go of things. And they think if it was easy for me, it's easy for you. Not realizing they've had a privilege in their life. The Young Turks decided to run the segment making fun of me and calling me ugly. then ultimately saying i was correct it made no sense but here's here's the funny thing the way they made fun of me is the exact same way the the hardcore trump supporters make fun of me the thing that matters most i literally don't care like i question i so i question why the young turks would do a weird segment where they agree with me but then mock me like where's what are you doing trump supporters who are making fun of me and you know calling me ugly or whatever
Starting point is 02:00:26 it's like okay like what am i gonna do about do i'm supposed to cry i don't know what i can't do anything about it it's called ugly often i don't i don't see that i don't know it's it was it was the the young turks was because specifically because i did a segment saying liberals were ugly i guess yeah and so they wanted to make an issue of it yeah but the point the the ultimate point is why do people care so much about it you know it's like you're gonna get hate people are gonna you know i i go on i can i if i really want to you know just make sure i keep my ego in check all i gotta do is open my twitter notifications yeah and it's just i know i was like these twitter notifications are rough he's like dude if i wanted someone to insult me i'd
Starting point is 02:01:02 hire like a what would you call it an sn S&M? Someone to come whip you with a chain or something? It's Twitter. Mike G says, to Sean Parnell, great taste, GNR. I'm wearing the same shirt today. Also, Alex Padilla became the first Latin rep in CA and they're applauding this. Meanwhile,
Starting point is 02:01:20 Texas had its first rep in 1916. Whoa. We got some spicy superchats i can't read but they're basically saying they you know civil war oh yeah they're literally saying it and that's that that's the issue i'm saying if like if if conservatives are now spraying down cops with pepper spray you don't want look it's a quote from joe rogan that goes viral that goes viral all the time where he said the guys who actually know what war is like and who experienced it are the ones saying you don't want this we'll never advocate
Starting point is 02:01:49 for it exactly exactly i and and but in this quote he says and it's these you know it's like basically antifa they're screaming and demanding it and as soon as they open that floodgates they're going to regret it well yeah those who those who've seen the horrors of war almost never advocate for it openly. And by the way, like I've mentioned this before in your podcast, I don't this nation can be saved. And I would I would argue that great leadership can pull us out of this thing, you know. And so, God, I hate to even i hate to even it bothers me that people feel so distraught and hopeless that that's right where their minds are right now but i'm here on this program saying don't give up hope don't lose heart stay in the fight uh america is worth fighting for
Starting point is 02:02:39 um and you know let's fight fight with me hell if you're in Pennsylvania stand with me and fight with me let's see army chief 2005 says thank you for having this patriot on your show uh was a third time now yeah I know man this is crazy and I know you're always welcome to come I didn't even hawk my book until the third time I know right Christmas it's a perfect time actually you know you guys should check out his book if it's that kind of stuff you like it's a business tactic you jab jab right hook so you just jab the couple and if your viewers put one true patreon on the bestseller list man you're going you're going where can they buy it but how do you do that how do you get on the bestseller list oh oh so you gotta sell a lot right a couple a few thousand books really that's a week that's it that's a lot i mean like you know the problem
Starting point is 02:03:22 with fiction the reason why it's so hard to make the bestseller list in fiction is because you're going up against a guy like Stephen King who has three books at any given time on the bestseller list. Or like, you know, the 12th Harry Potter. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. So which one? One True Patriot, you said? That's the latest one. That's the one that just came out.
Starting point is 02:03:36 Because I'm working on the next book now. If your audience gets that book on the bestseller list, I'll put Tim and this entire podcast in the next book. You'll be a main character in all my books moving forward. Have you seen Jack Posobiec's Agent Posobiec? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I love what he's doing there because, again, it's not just the left. Culture is funny. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 02:03:59 Politics is downstream from culture. So he brought some comics, and I pointed to the art of him holding the gun yeah with the weird attachment that's some kind of suppressor and he was like i know man like people who people people who read this like they know about guns they're probably looking at i know the people that worked on that jack is what jack is is great but the people who who work and i know that i know the artists who worked on that comic as well they They're total pros, like Marvel and DC veterans. They're good. They're good. Right on. All right, let's see what we got here.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Sol Invictus says, could not disagree more. He says, violence is necessary because others will choose violence. You have no choice but to retaliate if you have to do something horrible.
Starting point is 02:04:38 Do it quickly. Don't force others to suffer. Well, I think the important thing there is defense is acceptable in terms of the violence conversation protecting yourself from someone who means to do you harm is legally like i mean and i would i would even go i yes and in afghanistan you know we it was so fascinating about this topic is that we never would have fired our weapons in afghanistan unless we were fired if we weren't fired on first the only time we ever shot our weapons is when we were shot at first
Starting point is 02:05:10 in afghanistan outside of that we were driving coloring books to kids and building wells and humanitarian assistance the problem is we just got ambushed in direct fire attacks every time we left i can i can easily you know disprove this comment on on you know anyone advocating for violence it's really simple it's the reason why china isn't sending boats and planes and storming the beaches and attacking it's why they're using fifth generational warfare because violence isn't effective especially in the information age it makes people not like you they won't listen to you and they'll resist you the most effective thing you can do is win them over through propaganda and media manipulation that's fifth generation warfare finance yeah yeah yeah yeah i am out
Starting point is 02:05:49 exactly it's easier to give someone money than it is to try and force them to do something it's like hey i'll give you a thousand dollars if you do it and people might just be like okay but the other thing too is when it comes to what's going on with covid violence is totally and like uh antithetical no no no no what i want to say is like it would have the opposite intended effect if everybody who's upset with the covid lockdown just said okay i'll go and open my business there wouldn't be one it'd be over like it's like this is what i explain to people when i was little i'd have a friend and i'd be like hey you want to go skate but i can't i'm grounded and i would go okay do you want to go skate? He'd be like, I can't, I'm grounded. And I would go, okay, do you want to go skate? I can't, I'm grounded. I'm like, what does that mean?
Starting point is 02:06:26 My parents told me I can't go outside. And I would say this, what would happen if you go outside? He's like, I'll get grounded again. I'm like, oh, and then what happens when they ground you again? And then you go outside again. And he's like- Well, they walk into your room and they take your TV.
Starting point is 02:06:39 They yank it out of the wall. They take all your toys. But now you're comparing the governor of Pennsylvania to parents. No, no. What I'm saying is if the lockdowns are like if you can't open your business because someone said don't open your business, but you could literally walk into your business and open the door, then there's no lockdown. If the kid, if my kids are for some reason watching this or your daughters are for some reason reason watching this if you're grounded if you're grounded you're grounded well so i was like nobody's leaving the house no one's leaving
Starting point is 02:07:10 the house when i was like 15 and i'm telling my friends the worst thing that's gonna happen is they're gonna keep telling you can't go outside but if you're grounded and you can go outside then grounding you doesn't do anything does it if they're telling you you're all locked down you can't open your business and everyone says we're going to open our businesses. They can't do anything about it. But they can come like audit you and take your money out of your bank account. Well, if the individual – they can go after individuals. But if everyone at once does it, the system changes.
Starting point is 02:07:34 That's exactly it. If people just said I'm going to nonviolent civil disobedience. And I think the reason why people don't and specifically in this regard is because people want to protect their fellow citizens right and but my point is that we can do both responsibly we can both open up and protect public health it's possible nuke the ice caps says and great name by the way left and right now now disowning the police everybody is absolutely at their breaking point when we get to this point we have to ask why when they will not allow us to ask why. There really isn't a choice.
Starting point is 02:08:07 Left is there. Merry Xmas, lady and gentleman. Merry Christmas. Don't lose faith in the police I have and I stand with them. And again, this is a leadership issue. You know, if leaders stood up and said, keep your businesses open, keep your restaurants open, police don't enforce unconstitutional orders, stand with the people, this problem and these lockdowns would be over tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:08:28 A lot of people mentioning that right when we started the show, Trump said F the COVID relief bill. So awesome. Yeah. Did he really say that? Did he really? No, I don't know. I mean, it really wouldn't surprise me. Especially at this point.
Starting point is 02:08:41 Merry Christmas. Rita Ho says good job on pronouncing fang fang. Well, it's because we had China uncensored and they told us how to pronounce f, good job on pronouncing fang fang. Well, it's because we had China uncensored and they told us how to pronounce fang fang. Everyone says fang fang. I think I said fang fang. It rhymes with a different word. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:53 That's why I went right there. The Civic Nationalist says, from the British Empire to the colonies, Merry Christmas, one and all. God save the Queen. To quote the Joker, you get what you effing deserve. Should have just paid them taxes.
Starting point is 02:09:07 So here's the joke I made. When you have these electoral candidates for the Republican Party. Hey, wait a second. He said we get what we deserve. Didn't the UK just lock down because of some mutated street? You're the one missing out on Christmas.
Starting point is 02:09:22 And they think the UK... Got you, UK! They're expecting food shortages. I know it's tragic because the borders are just shut. That's not good. I know it's terrible. Yeah, they don't. But here's what I said. When people you had these Republican electoral candidates, they so they're not the electors.
Starting point is 02:09:37 That's what candidates for the Republican side cast procedural votes. So it's on record in the event Trump overturns some elections. And you have the Democrats saying they're not legitimate votes. So it's on record in the event Trump overturned some elections. And you have the Democrats saying they're not legitimate votes. And I'm like, sure, I understand in terms of the constitutional process with the electoral colleges, the votes from these aren't official. And I'm sure when the founding fathers signed the Declaration of Independence, sent it to, you know, to the king, the king looked at it and said, by what authority do any of these people have to say their country is independent? They're not because it's our country. And that's it.
Starting point is 02:10:09 It's all an issue of confidence. I'm certainly not saying the Republican electors are like declaring independence or anything like that. What I'm saying is if right now everybody woke up and they just said the government has no authority, it would have no authority. Now, they could go and try and enforce the law. But if literally like I hear a lot of people saying like tax strikes like the left talks about this stuff too yeah if nobody was paying taxes then there would be no authority but it's an issue of organizational
Starting point is 02:10:33 power and people pay taxes i think the issue is you'll hear people say everyone should stop paying taxes or whatever and it's like yeah but most people in this country don't care and they're fine with paying taxes the problem is these lockdowns are destroying the lives of regular people who are at their breaking point, and now this is where things get crazy. That's when you've got to be worried about what people are going to start doing. All of it could end if we just lifted these unscientific lockdowns. Protect the vulnerable. Yeah. Special protections for nursing homes and for people who have, you know, pre-existing conditions.
Starting point is 02:11:07 Absolutely. And also direct resources to those programs as well to protect those people. From a 99.7% recovery rate. 99.99 survival rate. This is across every age group. Right. The world, the human world locked down, shut down their businesses for a virus with a 99.9% recovery rate. And I say, like, if, and again, I'm going to say we should take it seriously.
Starting point is 02:11:36 We should protect the vulnerable. I've got to say it every single time because I'm telling you some leftists will take this out of context and it's happening with it later but but if this virus were as bad as some are making it out to be the government would not have to mandate people stay home it's often so this one's uh this one's funny have you guys heard about this new signal that came out of proxima centauri negative that was like so there's something called the wow signal it was you know we're scanning the the space and we have this weird radio signal well another one just happened we got a super chat. The alien radio signal from Proxima Centauri has been decoded.
Starting point is 02:12:08 60,000 mail-in votes for Biden. Oh, okay. Unsurprisingly, it took a few weeks to get here. Mafu says, type six if you're going to D.C. on January 6th. There will never be a Biden presidency, he says. You know, have you heard about what's going on January 6th? You alex jones put out a video where he said 10 million people will descend on dc will occupy dc i don't know what to say to that i i don't know anything about that uh so it's a big protest plan for the day the joint session is going to happen and i'm you know i've
Starting point is 02:12:41 had some people hit me up saying they're going to dc that. that I don't think are particularly politically active in that sense. So I wonder if there's going to be – I think there's going to be a really massive protest in D.C. on the 6th when the joint session is supposed to happen. We'll see. Yeah. We'll see. Daniel Maxwell says peace requires that all factions involved desire peace. Violence results when one faction chooses to use force to get their way. And war results when one or more of use force to get their way and war results
Starting point is 02:13:05 when one or more of the remaining factions decides to defend themselves. Interesting. Yes. XD Interactive says DC was appropriated for government use. It can't be a state by the Constitution and that is not an amendment. It can't be changed. At worst, they could give it back to Virginia. That's that's the thing.
Starting point is 02:13:23 It's the it's the when they say. a state, that makes no sense. The reason why D.C. is federal property is because the federal government operates outside of the states. And the founding fathers, or at the time, the federalists, didn't want one state to have control over the jurisdiction the federal government operated in. I agree. I just think that the left doesn't care about the Constitution. The radical left does not care about the Constitution. Yeah. The Captain Z says, Southwestern PA here.
Starting point is 02:13:49 Green and Washington wouldn't take this stuff, nor are the counties that bear their names. If there is a divorce, do it county by county, not state by state. We have the food, the energy, and the power plants. California actually has a lot of... They also had a team working with them, like Ben Franklin, John Adams, and they were writing documents and new forms of like governance so that they could not just destroy the system but create something new. I have – and actually a lot of people don't know this. I could be wrong about this but there was some inspiration from Native American governance because they were – a lot of them were tribal and they had certain voting processes that the founding fathers looked at. We're like, we can incorporate that somehow.
Starting point is 02:14:28 It's interesting. Eddie Johnson. Oh, we have a correction here. He says it's Mossy Rock, not Mossy Brook. Oh, went to a restaurant to support them. And they had customers coming from three or four hours away to support them. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:38 Mossy Rock, Washington. Interesting. Bernard Kim says, like the idea of obfuscating parties of candidates but people will just look on google the party without doing much more research past that but it's still better than nothing because then you get low information voters going i don't know and then they don't vote and you don't want people like could you we can't have people voting based on just party because that doesn't mean anything it certainly doesn't change much right right yeah all right let's see damian harkett says tim you say we must resist resist yet any and all resistance is seen as crazy and extreme
Starting point is 02:15:13 if we're basically being told to our face to die and starve while uh terrorists on the left run free what what what do we do non-violent disobedience people hated the riots the riots caused a massive drop in support for Black Lives Matter. And the Democrats are freaking out because of it. Just showing up and, you know, success is the best revenge, I guess you say, right? Patronize your small business. Show up to restaurants and order food. Like, help them get by.
Starting point is 02:15:40 Help them see this crisis through. Yeah. That's just it. Help your neighbor. You know, be there for people in their hour of need all right let's see we got here a bunch of uh comments that are saying things i can't read on youtube but youtube allowed them to type it in because they meet they don't like context algorithms don't know context skeleton king says sean when when do we occupy harrisburg i just said i was ready to ride on a horse and paint my face blue i'm ready i know i know i you know i uh gosh i'm i'm close to it i'm almost there i'm almost there do it and take there. Do it and take pictures.
Starting point is 02:16:30 Renee Villareal says, just got all seven of my brothers a copy of Sean's book for Christmas. Oh, snap. Looks like you're going to be a main character in the book real soon, Tim. A main character? I mean, I'll make you the damn villain. I don't care. The villain? Well, you could be in the alpha program if you want. I mean, you can do whatever you want.
Starting point is 02:16:43 Have him be co-opted by Chinese spies, but he doesn't know it. I mean, you could be in the Alpha program if you want. I mean, you could do whatever you want. Have him be co-opted by Chinese spies, but he doesn't know it. I mean, you could be an Alpha informant. No, it'd have to be like... What do you want? You want to be a spy? No, like maybe, not a spy, but maybe someone who provides like, you know, intel, right? Yeah, a human source, a human source. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:00 So it's like, you know, we got guys... Oh my God, that would totally work with your persona as like is like a vice reporter yeah a guy who knows a bunch of people oh dude i already got it i already got a story arc for you it's already done i already got it when you got the questions that he'd answers to you got to come on tim casserole podcast oh we have too many people come in and out of this place you know i hear secrets you whisper exactly he's part of the illuminatiati now. Exactly. It's true. Exactly. Oh, yeah. I mean, that would be... If this audience puts that book on the bestseller list, that would be insane. That would be crazy.
Starting point is 02:17:35 You just have a stink bug laying on your shirt, I think. Where? Oh, there he is. Oh, yeah. She's flying around. They're a little clumsy. Things are kind of funny. I like them.
Starting point is 02:17:42 All right. Let's see. And repeat says, did Sean just say if the leaders tell the police to not enforce unconstitutional orders? Really? Did the police take an oath to uphold the Constitution or an oath to be mindless order followers? Shaking my head. That's an oath to uphold the Constitution. And many of them are just mindlessly following orders. Well, what I was just saying that, you know,
Starting point is 02:18:05 the police have been put in very tough positions because, you know, they also, part of their oath is to protect and serve. And they believe in the middle of a pan in the midst of this pandemic that they really are protecting people's lives by keeping them socially distant. So I'm trying, they're in a tough spot. But I say always fall back on what is constitutional and what is not. Like the government cannot tell you what you have to wear in your own home. The government cannot tell you how many people you can have in your own home. The government cannot tell you that you're not allowed to make a living for your family. So fall back on the Constitution and let it be our guide in times of crisis, because that is our shield.
Starting point is 02:18:48 The Constitution protects all of us from authoritarian government overreach, Democrat, Republican or independent. Otherwise, Jamie Arzola says Tim Pool is the reincarnation of Hunter S. Thompson. I don't think so, because he was like crazy on drugs, but not in the beginning. Who is that? I don't know who this is. Who is that? Hunter S. Thompson? I don't know who this is. Are you sure? Are you being serious? Oh, yeah, I know who he is. Of course. He's a writer
Starting point is 02:19:12 that went and took a bunch of drugs with his lawyer, drove across the country, did Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I was on a ton of drugs. I didn't know that. But Jamie also has Shout Out to the United States Marine Corps. Semper Fi. There you go. Oh, I didn't know that. But, uh, Jamie also has shout out to the United States Marine Corps. Semper Fi.
Starting point is 02:19:26 There you go. Yeah. He was, uh, uh, just because there's a Bill Murray movie. I don't know. I assumed you probably would have seen it.
Starting point is 02:19:33 Fear and loathing. Yeah. Well, yeah, of course I know that. Johnny Depp plays Hunter. I didn't know that. Oh,
Starting point is 02:19:38 there you go. There you go. He's pretty prolific writer. The Dutch master says, I've never been to a protest before, but I am 35 and i've been politically active since 16 i'm flying to dc from seattle to participate in the protest wow it's going to get spicy brandon tom says alpha project the pool identity
Starting point is 02:19:56 benjamin says tim you should you should live stream the january 6 boots on the boots in the ground i'd love to meet you so we were actually thinking about going to D.C. for the sixth event and doing the show from the production van or whatever. But the Internet's going to be down because there's going to be too many people. That's why we can't do it. Unless we had a satellite dish. But we don't have that. So let's see. D.T.
Starting point is 02:20:20 Wiz says, where do 10 million protesters use the bathroom? And that's the big challenge. You know the answer to that. TitanTech90 says, I bought all of his books. Looks like Tim Pool is going to be a main character of a book. Yes. Well, specifically. First of all, I can't.
Starting point is 02:20:34 That would be insane. I mean, I didn't even. That people are actually going to buy your book? Well, of course they'll buy your book. No. No, I'm just saying it's very, very difficult to get a fiction book on the bestseller list. But it's amazing. Your audience is awesome.
Starting point is 02:20:50 All right on. Yeah. Good compliment from Sean Parnell to all you guys watching it. I mean, seriously, every time I come on the show, I mean, yeah, I hear from hundreds of people who watch you. And I think what's interesting, Tim, is that in times of sort of universal deceit, people seek truth and have a craving for truth. I think your show is one of the shows that they turn to in this time. See, I got to point out again when Alex was on the show and he said, I want you to come on my show. And I was like, eh, I'm probably not going to do it. People were like – they expected me to be polite and just lie.
Starting point is 02:21:21 Does Alex still have a show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Band.video. He's doing really well with it actually. He has his website his own so like i checked out band dot video a while ago it's where he has his own he basically cloned youtube and he gets good he gets a good viewership i mean the dude clearly is still doing well for himself yeah but i wasn't trying to i'm not trying i don't really know anything i haven't ever watched any of his any of his stuff but yeah i mean to be honest i've only seen a lot of the clips.
Starting point is 02:21:45 I've only seen him driving through an MRAP screaming out of a megaphone. That's literally all I know from Alex Jones. The point is I'm not trying to be mean to him by saying, like, I don't know, I probably won't do it. Because I work nonstop. So when you say, like, are you going to read my books, I'm not going to lie to you. I could. I'm not going to do it. Well, I mean, that doesn't surprise me.
Starting point is 02:22:02 I'm trying to be mean, though. But I'll read this one for sure. Like, definitely. That one really is intriguing. I mean, I don't surprise me. I'm trying to be mean, though. But I'll read this one for sure. Like, definitely that that one really, you know, is intriguing. I mean, I don't I don't take offense to it at all. Like most, you know, I it's like I love reading. I've read. We have probably like two. How many books would buy like a thousand?
Starting point is 02:22:17 Yeah. Easy. Yeah. People send us books like crazy. And the best part is we get a lot of manifestos. So I have a po box at uh timcast.com slash donate and we get manifestos all the time and i feel kind of bad this this bodes well for a character in a fiction book oh my god my mind is already like going crazy i got one that was
Starting point is 02:22:41 probably like 300 pages once yeah and i'm like i could never read this i like you know could you imagine if you get a manifesto in this story and the and the manifesto is actually like the diary of a guy involved in some crazy terrorist plot that all of a sudden now the alpha program has to step in implicates certain government individuals that are infiltrated by the ccp yes i know see you're already're already there. I can tell. You're already with it. All right. Let's see. Let's do a couple more Super Chats here. Nathan Nat says, in response to the Marine shout out.
Starting point is 02:23:13 Rah. There you go. There you go. Semper Fi. Robo Cheez-It says, hey, Tim, love the show. Robo Cheez-It. I love Cheez-Its. Please.
Starting point is 02:23:20 They're just delightful. They're robots. Robo Cheez-It. All right. He says, please add when you live on different time zones. So when you're live on different time zones, so people like me who move a lot could find it easier. I would also love to listen live. It is 8 p.m. Eastern, Monday through Friday.
Starting point is 02:23:35 Sean Hollywood says, Trump to compel SCOTUS to intervene. How? Mike Pence to ignore contested state. This will trigger House to elect Trump. Biden will go to SCOTUS to contest. Cases will be reviewed on merit i don't think i think there's no political willpower like you have you have three trump appointees who are just like can i tell you i look i've got to be careful because i've got a case in front of the supreme court now um and i i want to go into this saying that i i
Starting point is 02:24:00 absolutely respect the the justices on that court and whatever verdict they would come to in my case, Tim. But I do think that the Supreme Court is also an inherently political body. And I do think that part of some of the justices are making the calculation. And again, I'm just, it's just speculation. I can't stress that enough that they're saying they want to be able to turn around to a Biden administration and say say look like we did we didn't rule on this stuff there's no need to pack the institution of the supreme court yeah oh my god they think well i mean they're trying to preserve the institution what they're doing is they're saying elections are every four years but the institution of the supreme court is sacrosanct so they basically think they're gonna that even if they did rule in favor of trump they'd still
Starting point is 02:24:42 lose so their best bet is to you know play politics beg beg to biden not to or the democrats not to disrupt the court wow we need a robot to be the supreme i i think it's real i i also think that if you're a justice i think that that's probably i think that that's reasonable i mean i don't i don't i'm not saying i want them to take up my case on the merits i think it's a strong case. I think what violates the state constitution violates the federal constitution. The federal government delegates powers to the states to conduct elections as long as the states run elections in accordance with their state constitution. That did not happen on a number of different levels in the state of Pennsylvania. The case is strong. The Supreme Court should take it up.
Starting point is 02:25:21 But it's it's an explosive case. There's a constitutional crisis. But also, let's not forget that the Supreme Court is an inherently political body. And bureaucracies in general protect themselves. You know? And I think the justices are seeking to protect the institution of the Supreme Court. I mean, that has to be part of their calculus. Yeah. Well, Sean, thanks for coming and hanging out.
Starting point is 02:25:42 Oh, absolutely, man. Hey, Merry Christmas to you guys, too. Thanks for having me thanks for having do we have to say happy holidays no uh merry christmas what else is there this time kwanzaa kwanzaa yeah happy holidays to you and yours yeah happy holidays yeah merry christmas merry christmas thanks for having me again i i you know i i know people who don't celebrate christmas were like, when I was younger, they're like, I don't understand why they even say happy holidays. Like who cares?
Starting point is 02:26:08 Like Merry Christmas, whatever. What would Jesus do if he was around today with the internet? Merry Christmas. Something like this. Make a show. My friends. Talking about Christ,
Starting point is 02:26:15 right? Make sure to follow me on Twitter, Instagram, parlor at Tim cast. My other YouTube channels can be found at youtube.com slash Tim cast and youtube.com slash Tim cast news. We do the show live Monday through Friday at 8 PM. So make sure you come hang out tomorrow because we have people coming to hang out tomorrow. And also, we're going to – if you guys want to, get Sean Parnell's book, One True Patriot is the right one, right?
Starting point is 02:26:37 That's the new one, yeah. One True Patriot on the bestseller list. You only need to sell, what, a few thousand? I think a few thousand copies gets you on the list. I mean, it's – I know you you say only but that's really it's really difficult well because i hear stories about like 500 000 copies sold or well i mean if you want to make number one on the fiction list you got to sell 500 i mean some it depends on who's on the list i mean sometimes it's 5 000 copies sometimes it's 10 uh but i think five six thousand copies gives
Starting point is 02:27:02 you a good shot to get on the list but sean parnell himself is one true patriot and he's got a book. I see what you did there, Tim. And I like it. I love it. Do you want to mention your social media? Oh, yeah. I'm at Sean Parnell USA on Twitter and on Parler. And you can follow me on Facebook and Instagram as well.
Starting point is 02:27:20 And he very, very conveniently got me all of these books for Christmas just to open up. You asked for them, Tim. You asked for them. Let's not leave that out for your audience you asked for them you said no for sure bring them down dude sign them and they're signed oh they're signed excellent where is the best place to buy them oh you can get them anywhere books are sold i mean and there are audiobooks out there as well i mean um i mean it it's it's really kind of cool to be able to write uh yeah well when this makes the best sellers i'm gonna be like i'm gonna find them I mean, it's really kind of cool to be able to write a franchise. When this makes the best sellers, I'm going to be like, what was it? I'm going to find them on eBay tomorrow under Tim Poole's eBay profile.
Starting point is 02:27:51 No. Right on, right on. Anything else you want to promote? No, man. I really do appreciate, as usual, Tim, you're great to me. I love coming on the show. I love talking about this stuff. Yeah, I loved the opening conversation about your military service, too, because getting into that's cool. You're great to me. I love coming on the show. I love talking about this stuff.
Starting point is 02:28:08 I loved the opening conversation about your military service too because getting into that is cool. That's why I definitely will start reading Outlaw Platoon. Because this to me is like I've been in civil unrest and civil conflict. I don't know. Whatever you'd call a revolution in Egypt was like the peak of the craziness. So reading this and reading more about the actual yeah that long conflict is that book is is not it's it's a studiously non-partisan book it's just about close infantry combat and a year and a half the media really fed us like a kind of a storybook not like hey no violence really even happened during the war we just went in and made sure
Starting point is 02:28:41 everyone was safe it's not it's it's funny that you say that because when we went into Afghanistan, we thought we were going into a stability and support operation and we could not have been more wrong. It was intense, close infantry combat for 16 months. And it's all in that book. Smash that like button, everybody. Subscribe.
Starting point is 02:29:00 Share. Yeah. Smash the like button. We have a graphic now. You need to get reverb with it. Smash the like button. Button, button now so you need to get reverb with it smash the like button button button uh you can also follow uh ian yes follow me guys at ian crossland i want to give a special shout out to jesus christ because uh we were talking a lot about christmas named after him christ you know the anointed one he may not be the only prophet but uh he spoke the truth to power if he'd been a little smarter or maybe had better technology, they might not have found him and cut his head off. He got sold out, bro.
Starting point is 02:29:27 Yeah, his buddy sold him out. He relied. 30 pieces of silver. But let's see if we could live like Jesus and do it right this time. And how many? And I'll say this. I'll be controversial, especially with you here. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:29:40 To the police officers who are being told to enforce unconstitutional or even outright illegal edict in exchange for 30 pieces of silver. You must reject it. Yeah. You can also follow Sour Patch Lids. You can. Sour Patch Lids. L-I-D-S. I do.
Starting point is 02:29:56 I do. She's a good follow. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Spicy memes. Interesting takes. Right on. Yes, the best.
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