Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #191 - Trump Vetoes NDAA In Massive Middle Finger To Establishment w/ Joey Salads

Episode Date: December 24, 2020

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host famous prankster Joey Salads to discuss more serious topics, like Trump's veto of the NDAA, censorship and algorithms on social media giants, the minimum wage, the effects of regulation, and some aliens (maybe).  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

President Donald Trump has followed through on his threat to veto the National Defense Authorization Act, which is a massive, I think it's like $750 billion bill that essentially authorizes national defense. There's a couple interesting things in it. Most notably is an amendment that was added in July that curtails the president's power to invoke the Insurrection Act. It would require some kind of certification through Congress, which essentially defeats the purpose of the Insurrection Act. It would require some kind of certification through Congress, which essentially defeats the purpose of the Insurrection Act, I guess.

But Trump vetoed it not because of this. He vetoed it because he said Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act must be repealed. Now, that would be a huge mistake. It would likely result in, you know what? I don't, I wonder if they would ban this show. They probably would. We probably banned instantly. You'd see the likes of, you know, Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro, they'd be gone overnight because what section 30 does is it makes it so that YouTube can't be sued for the things said by me, Ben Shapiro or Kyle Kalinske or Steven Crowder or anything like that, that you'd have to actually sue those individuals for defamation if they defamed you.

If you get rid of Section 230, then you would just sue YouTube for YouTube, you know, is the one who published the content. I certainly think Section 230 has its problems. We need reform. I don't think they're going to repeal it. Mitch McConnell is saying he's going to come back in on the 29th and override Trump, which is a good sign that just before one of the most important elections for the Republican Party, the Republican Party has more than enough knives to

place figuratively in Donald Trump's back, which means probably Trump supporters aren't going to support the Republican Party in that capacity. But we'll see. We got a lot to talk about. We'll talk about Nancy Pelosi and this COVID stimulus package and stuff. But we got a cool guest today. You may be familiar with him from his congressional campaign. Former congressional candidate Joey Salads has joined us. I told you not to reference me like that. I told you I was going to do it. Introduce yourself.

So, yeah, I'm Joey Salads. I do pranks and political stuff. I don't know. There you go. I don't feel like I'm worthy to be on this show. What do you mean? Oh, you're more than worthy. Yeah, what are you talking about? You have, like, millions of subscribers. I don't know. It's all demonetized. I don't even. There you go. I don't feel like I'm worthy to be on this show. What do you mean? Oh, you're more than worthy. Yeah. What are you talking about?

You have like millions of subscribers. I don't know. It's all demonetized. I don't even post pranks anymore on YouTube. So I don't know. You get like tons and tons of views. Dude, your prank stuff was pioneering, man. It was.

I was pioneering that stuff. Some controversial for sure. But then you ran for office. So now you're officially a former congressional candidate. That's your official honorary title. Forever. Oh, I'm officially a loser. No.

Congrats. But we can talk a lot about a lot of stuff, too. It's interesting. I think you're probably one of the best people to talk to about internet censorship, Section 230. Not only are you like one of the – when did you start on YouTube? I started on – I've been doing YouTube since it came out. Yeah, exactly. And that was like as a kid, you know, fourth grade, that was my dream.

I want to be a YouTuber. That's what I want to do. And you did it. And I ended up doing it. There you go. You got to do it every single day, kids. If you're at home and you want to be a YouTuber, just do it every single day. And eventually, if you make good stuff.

Be smart, get better, right? Yeah. So we're going to talk about this because the NDA stuff overlaps with censorship and big tech. And it will be an interesting conversation. Of course, Ian's chilling. What up, Holmes? And I've got the super male vitality.

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Interesting. I liked it so much. I don't even know what it is. You should have some. No, I'm good. Just in case you change your mind. All right. I'll take it.

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I think I did like two or three ads for a supplement. It was a collagen supplement. Yeah, that's good. It's because I'm like an old man and I skate. I've been taking beetroot. I've got like an array of like 10 different bottles of fruit extracts and stuff. And one is beetroot extract. It is so good.

You will feel so much better after two of those. Are you pitching a specific beetroot company? I will let you know. I got you a Christmas present. Is it beetroot extract? It is beetroot extract. Awesome. All right.

Lydia's hanging out. I am here pushing buttons. She's mashing all the buttons. Yeah, that's right. But let's just jump in. Let's's you know let me just say some first we weren't actually going to do a show today this is interesting yeah we were uh it's christ you know christmas eve eve tomorrow's christmas eve so i'll tell you i'll let you in look if i could work every day through every holiday i would the problem is two things happen on holidays like christmas eve and christ. Nobody is working.

So very little happens. The politicians are at home. They're not talking about anything. So there's no movement. But everybody's home. But nobody's watching this stuff. So like on holidays when people – for political content, I can say at least my views go down because people aren't going to turn on a podcast, listen to politics, and hang out with their family. What I do is luckily I have so much evergreen content throughout the years.

I just repost Christmas or seasonal related content every single year. So on Christmas, I'll put up, for those three, four days, I'll just re-upload. Hey, this was kind of Christmas related, like a package. That's a good idea. I should do that. I'll go back from like a year ago to find some news segment I did. Put it up. Flashback.

Donald Trump wins the election 2016. We'll do a flashback video. Yeah. That's a good idea. We're like, you're thinking about it. We're going to be chilling. We got one story about a giant ball of fire in the sky in China crashed into the earth. I think this definitively proves it once and for all.

Aliens? Aliens. Yes. So we're good. All right. There we go. We all aliens yes so we're good we're all right there we go we all we all agree and uh we're just gonna we're gonna hang out merry christmas everybody we're chilling uh we weren't really gonna do a show but then you know joey's in town he invited me on on christmas day yeah well i got the day right i'm like that's christmas bro

that was a mistake that was a mistake i didn't realize what day christmas was and i was like maybe you can come this day and then i was like oh wait just come tomorrow dude yeah so we got joey here but let's uh let's let's let's let's uh let's talk some news man and uh this is this is big this is trump trump vetoes major defense bill citing section 230 this is significant because it's the authorization for national defense it is a massive spending bill it is a ridiculous spending bill the most one of the most famous incidents uh instances of the NDAA was when Obama signed into law something called the indefinite detention provision, which was included in it. And it allowed the US government basically to like rendition anyone anywhere,

like take you and black bag you, like, you know, like V for Vendetta, where Creedy puts the bag over your head and then like zips it and they drag you out. That's basically what it authorized. So, you know, seeing Trump veto this, I laugh. When I heard Trump was going to do any tweet about it, I started laughing. But let's read. TechCrunch reports, following through on his previous threat, President Trump has vetoed the $740 million, okay, million, not billion, National Defense Authorization Act, a major bill that allocates military funds each year. In tweets earlier this month, Trump said he would sink the NDAA if it wasn't altered to

include language terminating Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, an essential and previously obscure internet law that the president has had in his crosshairs for the better part of a year. Quote, your failure to terminate the very dangerous national security risk of Section 230 will make our intelligence virtually impossible to conduct without everyone knowing what we are doing at every step. Trump said in a statement on the veto, it's not clear what the president meant or what he was referring to in criticizing the military funding bill as a gift to China and Russia.

I just got to say, I have no idea what he means by that Section 230 thing. And I think Trump fundamentally misunderstands what Section 230 is, probably because his understanding of it is being filtered through, you know, one or two people. So you'll get someone like me being like, yo, we need Section 230 reform. Section 230 is a problem. Someone will hear that and then be like, yeah, Section 230 is a problem. And then Trump will be like, it's a problem? All right, I'll get rid of it. It's like, no, no, no, no, no.

You get rid of it, we're all banned. We don't want to do that. So let's see. They say Trump tweeted about it. The president cited bipartisan calls for a Section 230 repeal in his decision in spite of the NDAA's overwhelming bipartisan support. So basically what's going to happen now is Mitch McConnell says December 29th, he's going to come back in, override Trump's vetoes to make sure every single Trump supporter knows the Republican Party hates you, hates your president. I'm being a little hyperbolic here. But yeah, come on. Mitch McConnell doesn't like Trump. There was a really great comic. I don't know if you guys follow George Alexopoulos. We got his

paintings up on the walls. He just put one out where it's it basically looks like the Lion King, I guess. Trump is hanging from a cliff and like reaching out. And then Mitch McConnell jams his fingers into Trump's hands. and then trump's like falling to his death like the lion king and scar i want that one yeah it's so good man i'd love to get awesome but uh look if if section 230 goes our show's gone the reason why there's probably bipartisan calls to repeal section 230 is because the establishment hates us. They hate you. They do. Now I'm not being hyperbolic.

They hate you. They hate me. They hate Joey. They hate Ian. They especially hate Lydia. The establishment just really doesn't like Lydia. What is it about Lydia? I don't know.

Because she's pushing the buttons, man. That's true. They're like, oh, Lydia. Yeah, so look, the establishment Democrats would love it if the mainstream media were the only game in town. And so you get rid of Section 230, and then overnight, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube are flooded with lawsuits, many of them probably meritless. And then it's going to be like, we're done, ban everybody. We don't care. You know what YouTube will do?

They would love this. YouTube's been trying to get rid of everybody for a long time. And so they're doing something like, I don't know if you saw this, Joey, with what Pornhub just did recently. I did see that. Banned all non-verified content that's it if you're not a verified channel you're gone i used to have a whole uh photo porn hub channel yeah no like uh bookmarked like my favorite porn yeah 10 years worth of stuff i'm with you 70 80% of it's gone. I'm like, oh, this has been my library. Evergreen content, you know? The livelihoods for some people. I mean, in all seriousness, a lot of people just lost their

jobs when that happened. I know there's like Pornhub creators like YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They'll do like porn vlogs. Am I allowed to say that word? I guess. I don't know. Probably not. If I demonetize, whatever. Whatever. Merry Christmas, everybody. But yeah, but like, it's it i guess i don't know i don't probably not if i demonetize whatever whatever merry christmas everybody but yeah but like it's it's like people have their own channels and you know they can make

money i guess i don't i don't i i uh my understanding is now they're doing crypto because mastercard and visa cut them off but this is what's coming for everybody they start with porn hub they always do it this way too because they know regular people won't publicly fight for it for the most part like nobody wants to get them on a pedestal and be like we must protect our porn yeah they're gonna be like yeah they go after the worst of society first or just like the the socially the fringes and now i'll tell you what comes next they did this thing we talked about a little bit last week where youtube got rid of verification for tons of channels you remember that yeah that

they i remember they stripped i wonder if i'm still verified well they there was a backlash and so they said okay we're not going to do that we're not going to do that i was actually one of the approved channels where i got an email saying you're all good we love you you're verified but eventually i think what's going to happen is they're going to start set so right now they already said we're going to put ads on content that isn't in the partner program, meaning you upload videos. You're not the part like they make money off you because YouTube's they're losing hundreds of millions of dollars a year. Oh, yeah. Just nonstop.

I think what comes next is they're going to be like, if you're not a verified account in the partner program, we are going to stop promoting you in the algorithm. And they're going to say you'll still be or they they'll say like we'll stop recommending you as much this is because you know we're trying to improve quality for all of our creators and make sure they can make money it'll be great news for all of the bigger creators who will now see bigger viewership and things like that and then they're going to start they're going to tell they're going to start getting rid of smaller channels fringe channels people with the wrong opinions yeah gone gone and you know what it's it's two things they're doing it one for business reasons and then two because they have bias and the business reasons why they're doing it is because the whole adpocalypse situations where you know cnn or the late night show they can post whatever they want and they have reserve ads on the back

end where they're what does that mean reserve ad so well what first off they're i'm assuming they're in the google preferred program where they're getting the most exclusive highest paying ads and then also on the back end to fill the extra ad slots they have direct deals with companies like coca-cola to fill that extra space and they pay a premium so obviously youtube and google they get a cut of that so that's one of the reasons why they want to promote you know traditional media there because they have their own set of ads you know from from direct deals uh so business-wise it makes sense but that's not what youtube is and those that content only gets views when they

feature it on the home page right nobody and it's When you go to the front page of YouTube, and I'm sure all of you watching have seen this, there is like the COVID news bar and everything's thumbs down to oblivion. It's like 10, 20% thumbs up. It's all just obliterated because nobody wants to watch that garbage. Yep. So YouTube's trying to be Netflix. If we get rid of Section 230, YouTube is going to start square dancing. All the CEOs are going to be laughing.

They're going to be like, that's it. All the conservatives, all the moderates are gonna be laughing they're gonna be like that's it all the conservatives all the moderates independents you're gone msnbc guys you know progressives all right we'll give you a pass but if if we keep section 230 the track we're on right now is still really bad for independent voices smaller channels or anybody who's even big and wants to challenge the system because you could have a million subs but you you give a wrong opinion, you're gone. Yeah, and it's – but these social medias – the thing is I'm more into the free market, where at first when this was an issue like five years ago, I was like, eh, you know, they can do what they want.

They're a business. They can operate however they want. But then over time, realizing these social medias have a monopoly on free speech on the internet like the world wide web like if you make your own website you can only generate traffic to your website is if you promote it on twitter promote it on youtube promote it on facebook buy ads buy a billboard you got billboard on yeah or a commercial on the super bowl for a million dollars yeah so how much that costs they got something like a million dollars a minute or something are they more probably way way more than that yeah it's probably like but like you could make a youtube video it's worth

10 times a commercial on the super bowl i should i should buy a billboard somewhere well super bowl commercials are like notoriously bad for no roi like if you're a new company and you're getting super bowl commercials like your stock tanks because all the invest yeah because they know it's a bad investment i think it was pets.com is like one of the most famous stories i think it's pet one of the it was like a pet type of website for adopting animals and they spent i think tens of millions of dollars and you know six months later a year later they're out of business wow because they got no return on that investment and like the problem with billboards and commercials is that there's no click-through. You can't see a commercial and click the button to go to the website.

Whereas on Twitter, you just click the link. And you can target exactly who you want to target. Everybody who loves pets and animals, anyone who's Googling how to buy a dog, you can target them. Google set it up that way, too. They set up their algorithms to track what people like so that you could use their service to find people that like what you're looking for. Yeah, and they're all sharing data. So my girlfriend, for my birthday, she got me an air fryer, and she ordered it on Amazon. And then we're watching TV.

We're watching IMBD TV, and we're watching Malcolm in the Middle. And an ad for that exact thing that she bought pops on the TV yeah the exact product happens all the time that's creepy yeah they know you better than than you know yourself yeah facebook knows when you poop i'm not kidding i was reading an article about it yeah because they like people don't people don't realize that there's things like your favorite color correlates to other things about you you know what i mean so they could someone could ask you a bunch of questions that you think makes no sense they'll be like what's your favorite color what's your favorite sport you know where are you from and then also they'll be like your favorite pasta is you know linguine pesto and you're like what how did you

make like a statistical analysis people who like this also like that right you know if you like all three of these things you're definitely liking this fourth i'll tell you what the uh if youtube does the verification purge it's going to be really really good business-wise for channels like this so right now i remember when youtube did that announcement about what was it it? What was it called? Like the CP something, the Child Protection Act, CPA. Yeah. And everyone's freaking out. All of the creators that do vlogs were really worried because they were like, if we're deemed a channel for children, we don't get access to targeted ads and our revenue is going to drop like 80%.

And I started laughing. I'm like, wow, this is great. I do politics. There's no way you're going to argue this stuff for kids. And that means we're going to get all of those targeted ads and all that. Everyone's going to go more likely to us than them. If YouTube purges over time from the partner program a bunch of channels, that means – and they start promoting more verified and confirmed. The viewers consolidate around the top 1% of the top 1%. What do they say?

It's like 40 million – what is it? How many views per month? Does YouTube got a billion? Billion views. But if you got a billion channels and there's a billion views, you know, you get one view per channel. So get rid of all but 10 channels

and now everyone's getting... They're kind of doing it already. They have their select group of favorite creators. They're the only ones that have access to the trending tab. They're getting, you're getting Google Premium ads. They're on all the VidCon billboards. I think YouTube owns the VidCon event, which is like the creator type of thing.

Trash event, by the way. That was made by the Vlogbrothers. Didn't they conceptualize? Yeah, that was the Greens, right? Yeah, yeah. John and Hank. Hank and John. Hank.

Yeah, those two. They went kind of crazy it's really it's really it's really weird how the the social media drift created this class of people who were trying to out left each other that's so weird it's like bro remember where john stewart used to be that's where we were all at but you guys kept trying to one-up each other i guess to like prove, like, prove your value or virtue. Yeah, that was about the same. So they went further and further left every single day. That's how they make themselves feel morally superior. So they're morally superior to you because they support Black Lives Matter.

They care about black people. You don't. But I think, like, you know, like, the Vlogbrothers were doing it because it was popular marketing. So, you know know you get social media and all of a sudden the craziest activists are screaming at their lungs and then you're like how do i get attention wow everybody's talking about this i should talk about this too so you look it makes sense man if you're trying to if you're in the business of attention where this is what we are this show like the goal of this show, what not directly,

is to keep people watching it as long as possible. The goal of YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter is to keep you looking at that screen on their website as long as possible. It's the attention economy. And then as we do, we sell ads. So for for us, it makes sense to talk about important political news. And you know, talk about what we believe in and stuff and naturally that generates an audience of like-minded people what they're doing is the inverse they see a big audience of crazy far leftists and they think that's my path to make money now it's funny as a leftist accused like us of doing that grifting of like they're like tim pool used to be like super left and now he's conservative whatever and it's like well first of all like opinions change like earlier this year i was not pro i was not to a like hardcore as i am now now

i'm like very much to a it's between you kind of drifting a little bit more right and then also the the spectrum of the left shift also shifting but i actually moved uh further left actually yeah so i you know my political compass test i'm actually further left libertarian i used to be like pretty liberal now it's like down and like more left libertarian but uh leftists are not a lot of a lot of conservatives don't get this the actual economic left libertarian they are pro-gun they're not anti-gun it's it's the it's the establishment elites the authoritarian groups that are pro-gun even the authoritarian communist types are pro-gun how they're gonna have the revolution yeah so they're definitely pro-gun they're very there's like a reddit page for socialist gun gun rights and stuff like that so anyway but what happens is you have people like

the vlog brothers who aren't you know look i'll leave them out of this but i'll wrap them in the bigger picture celebrity what are celebrities for? They're marketing. That's it. They're people. They are marketing. The reason why they put Brad Pitt in the movie is because they put Brad Pitt's name on it. You go see the movie. So the same thing with these YouTubers. The goal is they want to generate as much attention as possible. When they see everyone's clamoring about social justice, they're like, oh, I can do that too. I can do that too. The right has that. You know, there are are certainly people who are like i've decided to support this or that because it's gonna make me money but i think that's a tendency of the left more so so it's like it's it's disproportionate you have more leftists or fake leftists who pretend to be left doing that then

you have people supporting trump the people support trump tend to really support the guy yeah and it's when trump you know supposedly lost the election i was just getting flooded with people saying give it up already stop crying you cry baby trump lost get over it i'm like wait first off the election's not over trump didn't concede whatever's happening's happening uh but i'm like they don't understand the difference between having a passion for the country a passion for actually liking the president they don't understand the difference between having a passion and then yelling and screaming and crying at the sky you know when trump lost election night uh we you know we took what's the legal process let's investigate let's

do this let's do that when the democrats lost in 2016 it was just screaming and yelling at the sky they did their they had their celebrity videos where they were like the electors you must not vote for trump you must be faithless and defy right now in iowa there's a woman her name is rita hart she lost by six votes guess what she's doing suing to overturn the results arguing that they should reinstate 22 mail-in ballots that were disqualified because then she wins yeah and i say okay well you have the legal right to do it by all means it's funny though when it's when these elections are that close and even trump you know lost by you know 10 000 votes in some states states with you know three million four four million in population 10 000 votes nothing comparatively to the popular you know trump only won 2016 by like 77 000 votes yeah he got a big electoral victory but there were three states

where he only got like 0.1 like really you know thin margins but it's funny to see this dem the democrats are like when we're you know when we lose it's okay for us to overturn the results and i don't see any of these news outlets saying this is shaking confidence in our elections and it's evil and wrong no they're in support of it the person who's filing the suit on her behalf or like who's working with a lawyer is one of the lead critics of trump in his legal effort to overturn the results so it's like this guy goes on twitter all day and he's like trump is you know what he's doing is wrong and he's gonna lose it's ridiculous how dare he and then i'm gonna file the exact same lawsuit for my person and don't look over here everybody the left their their ideology is like a sliding scale.

There's no consistency. It's like all about what benefits them at that particular moment at that point in time. Right. Where one day the left can be on Twitter praising the Constitution because something went their way. And then the next day, say, the Constitution was founded by a bunch of racists. Right, right, right. And now we need to destroy it. So yesterday you just loved the Constitution because it helped you now you want to rip of course of course i was

thinking that power of just kind of in general the power they say power corrupts people and that we the social media uh view count is like a source of power when you have the ability to go click a button and tell someone something and a thousand people hear you say it that people are getting slowly driven insane and then when they get the likes and they're like, oh, when I did that complaint, it got a bunch more likes from those. And then they get even crazier. And so you've got people in politics going crazy. We call them the left or the people in social media, like Brad, not Brad Pitt's crazy, but these cult, you know, these YouTubers that end up going too far. Like the Vlogbrothers going insane.

Yeah. And it happens on both sides, too. I mean, it happened with end up going too far. Like the Vlogbrothers go insane. Yeah. And it happens on both sides too. I mean, it happened with me at points on Twitter. It's like, okay, let me keep saying this and it keeps getting more and more likes or let me make videos on this and just push the edge. It drove me to insanity in the early days of YouTube. I thought the only reason people liked me

was because I was crazy. Like I would smoke weed and talk about the craziest stuff. People like, this guy's insane, this guy's insane. But those videos would get the most views actually and so I kept doing it and tried to out insane myself And I was getting depressed and it drove me insane. I almost killed myself. It was that's why I went I'm so controversial online with my pranks because the algorithms were rewarding being controversial right being offensive You know doing crazy crazy just crazy and crazy and you get to that point where you're realizing oh wow i took it kind of

far and then you kind of take that step back there's people who who uh don't realize they get they get caught in the algorithmic loop and then they start producing more and more and more i think people need to need to recognize what this is, but I will tell you something. These big tech companies will ban the right. So the wall is set, right? So if you're on the right and you start seeing, you'll tweet something, you'll get more likes. So you tweet more of it, you go crazy. You get more followers, you get more shares. Then Twitter bans you.

You went too far, they say. We see you go too far. You should have stopped. It's too bad. You're out on the left you can literally call for riots and terrorism and violence and they won't remove it yeah listen to this i when i got banned on twitter i made another account called not joey salads or whatever and it was not me somebody else was running it and for me and i did i had actually i went through

three different twitter accounts so that account in particular got banned because I replied to the LA mayor saying, but sure, just let them burn the city down, sarcastically, because he was talking about Black Lives Matter and whatnot. And I got banned for inciting violence immediately. The very next day was when they were calling for riots. Oh, because RBJ Ginsburg died. The very next day was trending they were calling for riots oh because uh rbj kinsberg died yeah very next day was trending burn it down or whatever of course of course man and i i got banned for being sarcastic when i was on the joe rogan show with the people from twitter we pulled up a tweet that had been

up for months that was calling like there was a i think the tweet itself was a felony and i was like why is that tweet still there and they're like uh i don't know oh we can't monitor every single tweet that's and i was like but you could see that replies to it were banned yeah so you had this tweet from an account calling for overt violence instructing people to commit violent you know felonious acts and it was fine below it it was like this tweet has been removed for violation of policy this is removed removed removed removed yeah and so when they were like well you know people have to report these things for us to notice and i was like the replies are banned clearly people are reporting this like crazy and each other yeah i'm telling you right now they

all these social medias if they don't they're stupid they definitely have certain key phrase algorithms that determine if you tweet saying i want you to burn whatever down whatever they know in their algorithm and i know tiktok does this a lot if they scan the video and they notice something that's questionable they'll actually put the video on hold send it to a review to determine okay was this a violation okay it wasn't and then it gets cleared so So, I mean, YouTube does the same thing. You know what TikTok used to do? They were, it was really clever. If on YouTube, somebody is getting cyber bullied, YouTube will ban the bullies.

On TikTok, if somebody was getting cyber bullied, they'd ban the victim. Because think about it, it makes a lot of sense. If you don't want bullying on your platform do you ban the 300 bullies or the one victim well yeah if you want your user numbers to be inflated you don't want to ban 300 people can't do that and the victim yeah now the bullying is gone congratulations only beautiful people to be on our platform yeah tiktok's done a lot of sketchy stuff when it comes to you know favoring beautiful people algorithm it's china it's it's weird because when i'm on tiktok i i even though it's owned by china or in bed with china yeah it's it's still i think more free

speech than you know the other platforms which is i think i think uh without getting too specific some of these social networks are fake. Fake likes, fake views. I mean, remember what Facebook was doing with inflating their view hounds by like 90%? Remember that? Yeah, yeah. And then they get sued. I thought they got sued like a bunch of... Man.

The advertisers, I think, got really mad. What happened? Yeah, dude. So Facebook would... You'd play a video and it would say you had 100,000 views when you actually only had like 10,000. Now they count it because I don't know if they were actually making it fake. But you know when you post a video or something on Facebook. It's like you would scroll past it, and it would take it.

That counts. So your videos will sometimes be like 100,000 reach, 20,000 views. So it was on 100,000 people seeing it as they were scrolling. Like an impression. But they didn't actually watch it. But now it only counts if you watch for three seconds or more then is that like a legal thing is there like a law it has to be three no but what was happening was people were selling ads and facebook was selling ads and then facebook would be like oh look a million views congratulations that'll be you know x amount of dollars but then people found out wait

a minute those views aren't real because they just scrolled past it and didn't actually watch it in any capacity so dude this was facebook destroying the news industry no joke i i there are some companies i know that were very prominent mainstream networks that have gone bankrupt or shuttered the divisions that they had set up. There's some companies that would do YouTube videos and they had millions of subscribers combined, maybe like 500,000 here, a million here, maybe, you know, 1.2 million. And I had a meeting in San Francisco with some of these companies because I was working for Fusion at the time.

And they were telling me how Facebook was the key. Facebook's where it's at. You don't understand. And I said, bro, what do you mean I don was the key facebook's where it's at you don't understand and i said bro what do you mean i don't understand youtube is where it's at and they're like no no no man like we put up a video on youtube we'll get like a hundred thousand views we put on facebook we get like 10 million and i was like you those aren't real dude there's no way you put up your dumb video and got 10 million views the good thing about facebook is everybody has a profile with hundreds of friends right so someone could easily share youtube you got to get the but check it out i was right and so what these guys are telling me i remember i was at a lunch in san

francisco it was like three the three video heads of like three different digital production companies that were on social media with youtube being their principal place for for production and i was i was like youtube all the way man i was like, YouTube all the way, man. I was like, I can see the community. I can see the interaction. I can see the excitement. I can see the virality. On Facebook, it's just like one day you put up a video and then boop, it's got 10 million views.

And I'm like, where'd that come from? And they said, you're wrong, bro. The industry is changing. You don't want to be like Blockbuster Video. You want to be like Netflix. And I said, no, it's smoke and mirrors. These guys are out of jobs. Those divisions all shut down.

Because when they were putting in, like, they'd have like a budget for like a million bucks or whatever for their production for the year. And these are big companies. And then when they said shift the production to favor Facebook, and then Facebook didn't turn anything back for them, didn't give them a return, they just fizzled out, ran out of money. And then their bosses were like, we just lost a million bucks made nothing get out you're fired like the retention time difference between facebook and youtube i can put up a video on facebook 30 to 50 second retention time same video on youtube you know six seven minutes exactly that's the difference in facebook right now they're making that algorithm push until a watch tab they made a whole nother section on facebook now i guess they're trying to kind of compete with youtube and they're favoring the higher retention content to kind of keep you on the phone you know

they want you to turn the phone sideways and watch a piece of content with facebook you can slide down you see it you click it but then there's this like sliding mentality you're in so you keep going whereas youtube you have to click a button to go there there's nowhere to slide to unless you want to read the comments yeah and. And you're invested. You're actively engaging and clicking on a piece of content you want to watch. It's like the worst drug of our time. Yeah.

So you're off Twitter now. Off Twitter. And how's that been? Oh my gosh. My mental health is so much better. You realize, like Twitter is,

once you get off Twitter, you realize that's not reality. That's not the world. It's been harder to keep up on politics and what's going on. Like I used to know everything at all the times. Now, you know, I know nothing about what happened today. Absolutely nothing. Trump did it backflip.

I wouldn't. Just trust me. I'm a guy. I got a podcast. I did it backflip. I believe you. Superhero landing. Jumped off the back.

No. Okay. Yeah. Twitter is a disaster. It's an addiction. And they know that the likes and shares and retweets, those numbers are what drive way to keep you opening the app Up again keep you engaged and looking right, you know, you have the notifications on like oh, I got a new follower You click on it now. You're exactly I think in the beginning of YouTube

I don't know how it was for you guys, but for me it was I wanted to make videos and tell my friends about this book I read and my space wasn't fast enough so I would make it wasn't about how many people saw it it was did eric see it youtube had friends yeah i wanted to share with my and then people could make video responses and you had these little communities of people and now that's like i don't know if they really want to just get people off the platform these non-verified people because they're taking up too much bandwidth and they're too much of a liability especially if 230 goes down then they're really alive exactly and and they want more like a tv station like netflix yes but we need these these some website where a bunch of like any kid can start making youtube videos and talk to another guy that's making

videos that doesn't have to be youtube videos i've just got that phrase stuck in my head from from 2006 youtube employees have told me and this is years ago, they want to be Netflix. So in the early days of YouTube. Look at the market cap of Netflix. Right, exactly. $200 billion. And so YouTube's tried doing originals. Disney's trying to be Netflix.

They're doing a good job. It's got to be a headache to deal with all the errant people that are saying like, burn it. If they say crazy stuff, you're you're not responsible but if you don't do anything and it's illegal then you become responsible no well if someone puts illegal content on youtube the youtube's job to take it down or aren't they responsible for hosting illegal content section 230 protects them they're not if it's illegal they're not liable for content posted by individuals so they will ban everybody if 230 gets repealed it'll be the end of the internet as we know what if the plan is to repeal it and replace it immediately with

something else that will never happen you don't think the democrats right now are probably sitting in a room with the democrat republican establishment are sitting in a room together and because this is a family-friendly show i will say they're sitting in a circle all patting each other on the back. Going like, yes, yes, this is great. We're having fun. They're all shaking hands. A circle of jerks high-fiving each other. What a bunch of jerks.

And right now they're probably going, oh, no, Trump. Oh, jeez, you want us to repeal Section 230? Oh, man, I guess we have to we have to listen what if that is actually a good thing what if you're 230 what if because they mass ban people like me you and the little guy then now it forces us to go to an alternative platform or to start our own platform youtube is the platform the place to be if you want to make long form video content and that's the only place you can go to get views but now what happens if the u of the youtube gets completely taken out now now oh i guess i'll try rumble or netflix exists but netflix doesn't allow anyone to post

they approve so what would end up happening is like roku the ott's they just allow anything right they allow people yeah so so here's here's my bet you know what i'm not gonna i've had i've had people telling me i'm wrong several times they super chat and they're like you're wrong tim 230's gotta go you don't get it i'm like all right dude i know exactly what's gonna happen if 230 goes i am gonna make 10 times as much money it's gonna be great for me and it's gonna be bad for humanity and liberty and freedom but if people want it if trump's saying it and trump's supporters are for it well okay i guess i'll just sit back and take the extra money because i'm

like well let me let me just say what's gonna happen there i'm not gonna be banned if if 230 goes i'm gonna be one of their preferred verified accounts or whatever they like the milk toast you know harmless tim pool or whatever he's just edgy enough but not not edgy enough to get smears and causes it cause any trouble because i'm not far enough in either direction. So it works for them that people watch these shows and that they're controversial a little bit. They actually monetized our Alex Jones episode. So they're like, this is okay. We're okay with this. So if you get rid of 2.30, YouTube's going to go, we got it, baby. We finally got what we needed. The excuse to ban all these people without causing controversy.

And we can blame Trump for it. It's great. So who are we keeping? We're going to pick 500 channels to keep. YouTube is now officially Netflix. This is fantastic. Our bandwidth costs are going to drop, but our audience stays the same. If you get rid of Section 230 and YouTube bans all of the non-preferred accounts, they probably might sign a contract or something about liability and whatever.

Then what you're left with is YouTube still gets the billion views or whatever per month, whatever the number is, probably more than that, probably 100 billion or something. They keep that. It'll go down a little bit because some channels and some creators will be gone and they'll go to other platforms. But people will still go to YouTube out of habit. And now there's only a small handful of channels to recommend. So guess what? The existing channels are going to go through the roof what platform

because that platform could get taken down too i think yeah exactly well let me tell you this everyone's saying rumble right now like oh go to rumble go to rumble okay just like any of these other platforms i'm just gonna start counting the days until nbc the walsh journal new york times publish a story about you know the neo-nazi website rumble and all this other garbage get thrown in there and then what happens is all they need is an excuse is one article that says it and then you'll get you'll get google going like we will no longer you know serve yeah you know the dns or whatever what is that google anti-defamation they go hard on people for that stuff yeah yeah uh google seized the dns i think it was a daily stormer like literally just seized their their domain so you couldn't go to it it was crazy

like that's authoritarian beyond recognition i'm just obviously spitballing here i could be completely wrong but let's just say you have a billion watch minutes going to youtube every day to watch independent creators and that's what you want to watch. As we were saying before, whenever CNN is recommended, just spammed with dislikes. I'm sure their retention time is dirt low as well. But obviously they want to work to kind of replace cable and TV. That's why they have YouTube TV. They tried YouTube

Premium and they tried original shows. All those original shows have been a major flop, even the influencer ones. Cobra Kai. It did good because it was on Netflix. Well, no, no no it did really well on youtube and then they sold the one then they sold the netflix yeah that was the only one that people watched um i don't know what the numbers were on that if it's even comparable to how much it got on netflix i never watched on youtube i watched on netflix it was great youtube youtube works on meritocracy so there's it's a

combination of algorithmic promotion for videos that do well and the hands-off approach from YouTube. When YouTube tried to do originals, yeah, it mostly did not work. A lot of the shows were just trash. So what they do is what works for them, let people make content, and then when they identify content that's doing well and is brand safe and advertiser-friendly, they promote it in the algorithm. But I'll tell you this how many let me let me ask you if you if what do you think the average amount of recommended views to like uh subscriber views you know what i mean like yeah the amount the i'll just i'll just say it because it's probably hard to make an analogy or question out of it the amount of people who watch this

content who aren't subscribed i'm not subscribed to you i watch you every day right i have i have 10 accounts that's why i don't know what account i'm on i just subscribe with all of them yeah no no maybe not because you don't want to inflate the subscriber count because then if the view to subscribers is the ratio they punish you for it but so so here's what happens it's like depending on the video it could be between 60 and 70% not subscribed. That means YouTube's recommending the video. So you go to youtube.com and then my video appears and you click it and you watch it and YouTube keeps serving people because subscriber counts really don't matter anymore. I mean, we do this show, we have about nine, almost 900,000 subs on this, on this channel

and we get like, we're averaging like half a million per podcast episode so that means like more than uh you know it's like 60 of the audience watches you know every day or whatever that's great or you can say that most people watch a you know a couple times a week and the way i the algorithm works to my understanding is because i know people who have zero growth on youtube but they'll have a million subs and every video they post gets a quarter million, a half a million views. But they don't have any growth because what YouTube sees, okay, this piece, it's mostly vlog content. This vlog is getting very high retention time with its subscriber base. So they'll push it out to more of the subscribers and then they do kind of testing and the algorithm for some lookalike audiences.

And then they check the retention time from those algorithmic viewers and then usually those algorithmic viewers don't come back good because it's the fans that want that content and they pull it back and it doesn't get the expanded growth but it has a high percentage of watch time from subscribers my page is the complete opposite my prank page where i'll get like 10 of my subs watching and then like randomly like two three months later i'll have a video pop off with like five million views yeah because it's just like the algorithm since it's all evergreen the algorithm be like okay well this content does good with random people clicking on it well it'll find that audience it'll fall so here's what i'm saying if you get rid of the independent creators, they're not going to leave YouTube.

Most views come from people who are told what to watch. No joke. Yeah. Now, it's a mix between the interests of the individual and what YouTube recommends. If there's somebody who likes watching videos titled Democrats are awful, and they send a video saying Democrats are great, they're going to be like, I ain't clicking that. And so it's ignored. So there's a balance there youtube would probably lose a decent amount of their users if they did if they banned everybody and if section 230 got repealed but most of the

people would probably stay then the activists would just target other social networks and yeah there are two types of people that use youtube maybe three there's one the group of people that want to see independent creators and the group that just go to youtube to just probably don't even have accounts that are just like oh i'm gonna just google this look it up or i remember watching this funny viral video let me look it up and show my friends or they're just typing in funny cats you know yeah the casual users maybe they're going on to see the news um they're like less engaged but those types of people youtube is the go-to so you get you get rest action 230 and i'll be i'll be doing great yeah well in the short term but i

mean i don't think any of us will be doing well i don't know actually bro you know how much money you know how much money like sean hannity gets and like what his viewer viewership is from his youtube stuff so his his viewership i think was at like you know four or five million a night at its peak and then people abandoned fox but even without him getting four or five million a night and then you include youtube when so i recently cut down the amount of segments i was producing but i was getting like three three and a half million a day sean hendy was getting you know four or five million the problem is you would be like the golden child and your ad revenue will go up but you'd be stuck under their uh their terms of service still which could get more strict the difference between i guess traditional media hosts and new media hosts is in traditional media

the ad rates pay way higher that's what youtube wants though yeah and they play way more ads mainly because there's no skipping around there's no jump i guess you could change channels but if you're watching sun hannity and the commercials start popping up, I'll go make a sandwich and come back. Exactly. Minutes go by. Yeah. On the internet, people do not have the patience. Stupid ad.

I'll watch another video. Yeah. Maybe we need our own network. Each individual has their own network where they can post all their videos. So you don't have to worry about 230 of anyone else's content. And then you can respond to other content through like an Rss where you can see if they responded to one of yours i don't know if you could watch your videos on my network because that might make me it's kind of like what roku is doing so i work i just signed with a couple of a company and they're like hey

we want to put your prank content into its own channel on the roku devices i'm like yeah just go ahead do it and like they made a channel joey salad's channel they link it with like an rss feed so whenever i post it automatically gets posted into that is roku responsible for your content under 230 i wouldn't know about any of that that's interesting if they weren't that'd be really cool if just it's cool because it comes off like an actual show i was telling you to do it because it go people watch that stuff on the TV. Retention time is higher. The ad rate CPM is higher.

I'm sure tons of your viewerships would love to watch your podcast and just click it on the TV. You know, man, I could do a million things to make my business run better. We don't do any ad reads. People listen to this podcast, and we have no ad reads at all. For instance, we don't talk about super male vitality yeah alex and get a kickback give me some money because we mentioned your that's right how many did you sell alex yeah we want to cut numbers no but uh like almost every single podcast they open the show with some kind of ad so i'm talking to people about doing some kind

of ads because i'm like we're not being particularly efficient with how we do things we kind of just turn the cameras on just hang out you know we probably do a lot better job but you know man times are getting crazy it's christmas we're chilling yeah i'm into the roku so this roku thing sounds pretty uh promising that's gonna i feel like that's gonna be the new wave of next year you're gonna see a lot of creators so the earlier you get on now that i'm saying it on such a big show i bet you every every like creator it right now how do i sign up people need to realize you know i think there's a lot of people who look for quick gimmicks to try and get big quick they look at vine the original for those aren't familiar with vine man how many people remember what vine was

oh yeah they're huge if you want to see you have a vine tattoo do you regret getting it no we like a huge Vine star? Oh, nice one, dude. Did you start on Vine? Yeah, that's how I got my big break. We gotta see that. Look at that. What?

Vine? I can't zoom in. Epic. Oh, when they destroyed it? Well, I did like a series called It's Bashin' Time. What happened? Yeah, you got started on Vine, huh? Then I got, yeah, that's how I got my big break.

Oh, wow. Then I got Facebook and YouTube. Nice. Hey, if. Then I got Facebook and YouTube. Nice. Hey, if any YouTube reps are watching, remonetize my pages or else I'm excellent. Yeah, do it. What happens if they change their logo and then you got like, what's that company?

It's like YouTube. Oh, that's it. It's like imagine. Remember YouTube? I was going to get the Instagram one and then like I didn't end up getting it. And then like, yeah, then like two weeks later they did a new Instagram logo.

So you were big on YouTube and then you started doing Vine. You were huge on YouTube in like 2010, right? 11 or something? I did YouTube since I was a kid. Never got any views. You know, hundreds, maybe a thousand views if I was lucky. Then I took like a two-year hiatus because I was like, eh, this is not working out.

This is not going to be a career. Let me go to school. Went to college for like a year failed everything but during that time i downloaded vine because an ex-girlfriend of mine made me download it because she was like recording videos of me like this is such a stupid app six seconds like how can you yeah downloaded it ended up making a bunch of videos ended up going viral got you know a million followers on there like damn vine's gonna go under i'm like i saw how the market was going it's all about like retention time and this must have been like 2011 or whatever and then i started moving all my audience to youtube stopped posting on vine

and then a year later vine went out of business how could you tell vine got bought by twitter yeah and then they were basically like this is what you know periscope's gone right oh oh really yeah periscopes that just went on when wow uh i saw something about i don't know exactly what's And then they were basically like, this is what, you know, Periscope's gone, right? Oh. Oh, really? Yeah, Periscope's. That just went on? When? Wow. I saw something about it. I don't know exactly what's going on.

Jeez. Too much bandwidth cost? Well, no, because what Twitter does is they buy a company, and then once people are used to using it on the Twitter app, they axe the other company. They just meld them into Twitter? They don't want the competition. What? Yeah, buy and destroy.

That's called hostile takeover, isn't it? Vine was unique because it was the first like app to have video format on and then yeah you know instagram came out with it yeah because instagram was just photos since the bandwidth on phones also started to increase you know youtube became more accessible on on the apps you know so it's just you know fine was like the first of its time and just never innovated past that point and they didn't get by twitter and then yeah that was the biggest they never got ads they sold the company instead yeah i was hearing stories that they were going to put an ad program in place but then like a bunch of influencers were like

spreading the word and then everybody wanted a piece of the cut and then they just can't hyperinflated their value and sold probably a hundred thousand times i think influencer value is it's tough because i think influencer value is overrated but at the same time it is that powerful yeah the money can't buy the value of communication the thing is like i use ninja for example he was the uh ninja the guy yeah yeah he he was the biggest twitch streamer he was all over he was you know favored so they put him on fortnight right yeah for fortnight on remember when he did the dance on new year's and no one knew who he was yeah it was maybe that's why you guys might know where know him he did the the floss dance in in times square in new york nobody there knew who he was

i think they might have knew who he was no come on man his audience is 12 year olds that's true but i i i gotta i have a i have a friend who's like uh he was in a band that was like decently famous and toured around and when i met him i was at this venue for like you know it's a big venue in chicago called the metro some band was playing everyone there was like in their 20s and 30s and i saw him and i was like whoa dude aren't you so and so he's like yeah i was like wow man nice to meet you i'm a fan he's like cool man and then i was like anybody here recognize you and he goes how old's everybody here are they over 18 not probably not and i laughed and i was like what i'd say about me

yeah but yeah like his audience wasn't there you know yeah back what i was saying about ninja is mixer bought him for like tens of millions of dollars whatever they paid him i think some people were saying it was close to 100 million and that's microsoft right yeah microsoft bought mixer mixer bought ninja then they started getting other influencers too but they thought you know ninja the biggest twitch streamer we're gonna get him on mixer and that's gonna help out mixer his viewership went from hundreds of thousands of live viewers to like a thousand two thousand oh yeah not at first when he first went on it was big numbers and then it just died off because i've influencers many influencers are only as strong as the

platform they're on. Yeah, dude. And I saw that same exact thing happen with Joe Rogan. I listened to Joe Rogan, but only on YouTube. I'll watch his viral clips. I'll listen to it here and there. Maybe then I'll go over to a full show, but it's always on YouTube. I haven't been to Spotify yet.

Yeah. It's kind of like I don't want to. I don't do it. Like I'm just like angry that he went to Spotify still, but I just. I got no beef. Hey, good for him. I mean, I would take the bag too. I mean, yeah to. I don't do it. Like I'm just like angry that he went to Spotify still. I got no beef. Hey, good for him. I mean, I would take the bag too. I mean, yeah.

That's a lot of money. But it's almost, I wonder, because we were talking about it before, it's almost like a retirement, you know. Yes. Not to be disrespectful, because I know Joe, he's a friend. But, you know, when someone offers that much money. Oh, yeah. I'm sure Joe, he's a good businessman.

That's FU money next level. But he probably knew exactly what it meant by going exclusive with Spotify. And there was a big backlash where people were commenting so his like his main youtube channel now has become a clip has become a clip channel i guess a clip channel is nothing now i have no idea that's million that's 10 million subscribers and he recently got the diamond award on youtube all those subscribers subscribe to watch the long form show not the clips and so now there's comments of people who are like i don't even watch anymore but here's what you got to realize too by going to spotify he lost the comment section yeah so people were having conversations that's gone and the discoverability

on youtube was what's really driving the traffic i mean spotify is its own platform but it's not something really people go there to discover stuff but if you but the good news is for him now is that you know you go open up spotify podcast and joe rogan experience right there paying the guy 100 million dollars you're gonna and the devs are pretty much at his beck and call he wants them to build a comment section but he loses itunes so he's not even on you open up itunes gone nothing exclusive contracts are free his audience size like potential has literally been limited by like what one-tenth of the size this is why people keep saying like tim why aren't you on rumble or whatever there's two reasons

two reasons the first is that someone already got the username timcast and i'm not gonna be bothered lame maybe they'll give it to you i'm not gonna ask them well now i guess i just said it on the show yeah they'll give it they'll email you yeah please tim please come i have so many companies where like every day we get like 10 people being like, you know, 10 different companies. We started a new social media company. Sign up. We reserve your name. I'm like, dude.

Yeah. I keep telling everybody, man, YouTube is a money pit that loses money like Uber. This is this is what Silicon Valley does to destroy this country and business in this country. Uber loses money like crazy. Like, dude, Uber loses money. But here's the plan you subsidize the cost through investors yep until you strangle out all the competition undercutting local cabs cab drivers go nuts they were like cab driver riots in france i went to i was in i was in new

york a couple years ago and there were cab drivers protesting outside of city hall saying that uber destroyed their business and in order to drive a cab in there you need like a cab token and it costs like a million bucks it's like you got to pay it off with a loan and so they were like we were told uber would only be allowed to drive so many cars so we buy these things and then once they brought in 30 000 uber cars allowing them then all of a sudden these tokens are worthless and no one drives in our cars anymore so what happens is cabs cost more money. That's right. You know why? Because you got to pay for everything.

The gas, the maintenance, repair, and the person's wage. With Uber, same thing applies. But it's cheaper because they eat the cost, take a huge loss. YouTube does that. YouTube sinks. Money's on fire. Netflix does that too. They lose money like crazy. But they make money off of invested they take

money from investors or through subsidy so youtube is subsidized by the parent companies the parent companies make sure youtube functions and then the the so the cost is ridiculous but this makes it so that no one goes anywhere else and all they have to do now is wait until everything withers and is strangled i I'll tell you, it's simple. This it's simple as principle. Really, you got a mom and pop cafe. This was happening in Seattle. At least this was a story as I was told when I lived in Seattle a long time ago.

This was like 14 years ago. You'd have a mom and pop local family, small business cafe. One day, a Starbucks would open next door and it would offer discounts, super cheap drinks, and then people would – it would split their business because there are some people who are big fans of the local cafe. It's the best cafe you got to go. They make a great French roast. But then there are a lot of people who are just like, oh, I just want a coffee. Starbucks, they got milkshakes or whatever. You know it.

Yeah, and so they see the Starbucks sign, and they know it's coffee, and they see the mom and pop's whiz-bang cafe, and they're like, I don't know what that is. You know what? There's a difference between – I would say – I agree with that is you know what there's a difference between i would say there is it i agree with you but i think there is a difference between starbucks and uber uber kind of innovated an industry starbucks is just like a big corporation right right but i just mean the principle yeah yeah you they would people were telling me that in seattle they were doing this i just want to make sure that's clear it's like what i was told i don't know if it's true but they would say like starbucks would open up right across the street then the small business would not be able to compete with with starbucks

but you got bro in in san francisco just off of market street i can't remember exactly where this what street this is there's there's like three starbucks three starbucks locations like in hollywood there's two four of them a mile away i i went not even within a mile no in one point they're right across the street from each other so i was walking on the street looking for a starbucks i pull up on my phone and it's like two dots appear on my on my on my google maps or whatever and i'm like what which one what there's two of them and so i walk and i look i'm like oh there's starbucks and then i walk inside i grab you know like a water or whatever and i grab like a thing of madeline's or some cookies whatever they sell starbucks and when i'm waiting in line i look across the street and i see a starbucks logo on

the other side of the street and i was like no you know what i use true i use that similar analogy when i'm talking to people who like support minimum wage increases and i brought up to one guy i'm like hey i'm like what do you think about um restaurant owners paying their employees 15 dollars an hour he's like oh you mean a livable wage i'm like one a livable wage is different depending on where you are and who you are right But I'm like, you want to increase minimum wage. I'm like, do you not understand the overhead that goes into running? I used a pizzeria as analogy. You increase minimum wage, now that cashier needs to earn money. The phone girl needs to earn more money. Now it costs more money for raw materials. Now your pizza prices go up

and people get pissed off. Now you're selling more expensive pizzas because the minimum wage increase or they start skimping on materials they start skimping the quality goes romate but then you have a bromate in their brain but then a domino's opens up across this wouldn't fly in new york or at least not in staten island you know but anywhere else uh a pizza hut or a domino's opens up across the street and they can give you a pizza for one tenth the price. And they can afford to pay their employees $15 an hour because they have that massive infrastructure to get you cheap prices also if they subsidize it with shareholders. So I'm like, so you want $15 an hour, that's just going to destroy small businesses. And then you're

going to have to go work for a corporation and now you're stuck making $15 an hour for the rest of your life because you're working for Pizza Hut. The idea that you can artificially inflate the wages for people is just wrong. I talked to – I told this story before. I was talking to an accountant who was a – he's a Democrat guy. He's like urban Democrat, not super political, but he votes them. And I asked him about it because New Jersey was passing a wage increase and And he said, oh, I lost 30% of my clients already. They shut their businesses down overnight.

Because what you got to realize. He did? Does he still vote Democrat? Oh, no, no, no, no, dude. And that's why I'm like, it's so crazy that I lived in a blue area. Everybody was Democrat. And then within a couple of years, they were all Trump supporters. Our whole lives, we were riding the bubble of the of the the boomers is that what the boomers they were just printing money and the white

picket fence get a house the american dream was just a big bubble they just kept printing more and more and more money now there's 27 trillion that's that's not the issue our whole lives we were riding that bubble we didn't realize there's a lot of different issues as to why the boomers retain so much wealth and young people that oil money i think i think it has to why the boomers retain so much wealth and young people don't oil money i think i think it has to do with boomers being bad parents i think it has to do with boomers being some of the worst ignorant for sure they didn't realize they were in that riding that bubble too i don't think there's it's not about writing the american military bubble yeah so world war ii we decimated the industries of our you know rival foreign countries and then that's annoying and then and

then you have uh you know american industry picks up then that's annoying and then and then you have uh you know american industry picks up the slack and our factors were fine nobody came here there's a lot of reasons why things were doing well and there's a lot of arguments about it but there's a lot to be said everybody wants to blame ronald reagan for trickle-down economics as to why it happened but they overlooked the fact that republicans were and this is true the fact that republicans wanted to start importing a lot of cheap labor and outsourcing to get cheap labor. If you were in a factory, it's like the late 70s and 80s, you're like, man, why do I got to pay $4 an hour, $5 an hour to this employee when I can have this stuff produced in Mexico for dirt and then shipped up here? And so that's where the trend comes in.

The jobs get destroyed, and that's ultimately what leads us to trump i think the reason i brought up the bubble that we're in is because i my whole life i thought if you need to raise the minimum wage raise the minimum wage print make the short-term value and then later we can recoup the loss as a short-term investment but i didn't realize that it was like you know what i it's it's it's so easy to explain why minimum wage increases do not work what you need need is the value of time to go up. And how you do that is very complicated. But it's really easy to explain to somebody. If I'm growing apples and I got to hire someone at $10 an hour to pick the apples,

and he can pick 10 apples per hour, just these are ridiculous numbers. He can obviously pick more than that. Then the cost of an apple has to be over $1. Because then I got to pay for overhead, the machinery, the planting. So the planting so apple costs two bucks well now you double the guy's wage right let's say you give him 20 bucks an hour now because because why not rashida talib was already saying you know 15 is not enough 20 bucks okay so now each apple has to cost at least two dollars now i all of a sudden apples go up in price but guess what the people who pick the apples also need to eat so now i'm getting

them 20 bucks an hour and then they're going to the supermarket and going i can't even buy apples anymore because the price just doubled so you're not giving them buying power increasing the minimum wage does not give anyone buying it's like a short-term buying power no it's a it's a trick to make them think it's a short term as the inflation catches up it takes like eight months it destroys the savings of retirees because now you still can't buy the apple because you're the same buying power but now everybody who saved can only buy half the apples they originally could have bought it it does so much it one it helps out the bigger business it hurts the little guy it causes inflation it allows the government to tax you more as well and also it spits in the face of the people who maybe are trying to work their way up at walmart you know

maybe hey i put in 10 years at walmart i want to work my way up you know i started at five dollars an hour now you're making 20 i gotta tell you what i'm i gotta tell you what i'm really i'm sick of i am sick of the fact that you are left wing or right wing based on whether you are stupid. And so when I go to a Democrat accountant and he tells me, look what happened on paper to all of these businesses when they raised minimum wage, the buying power did not go up. It stayed the same. And it destroyed these small businesses that didn't have the savings to maintain this.

One thing you could do. Everyone says, because I'm not in favor of minimum wage, much it's a right-wing position so what the left is stupid it's just an incomplete uh concept to raise the wage you need to raise like in savings account interest as well i think if you're going to do something like that so the banks take a hit and the consumer can maintain buying power interest that's not going to do anything for somebody who makes 10 bucks an hour they don't have a savings you know any increase in their ideally it would help them grow savings not only does it hurt business wise inflation wise all that stuff it also hurts the culture because if you had a lower minimum wage you know someone's first job at the age of 13 14 yeah his five dollars an hour worked the cashier now they're developing i was making 425 i think i've been working i worked my first job when i was like 13 14 years

old for like five dollars an hour and you know that's a growing experience everybody Now what kid is gonna get a job when the minimum wage is fifteen dollars an hour You're gonna want to hire the best of the best to make up for that price and the left always uses this argument Oh you go to in and out they pay their employees above minimum wage and look how good the service is versus McDonald's. It's like, no, they're not doing better because they're getting a higher wage. They're doing better because they're literally just picking the best of the best fast food workers. And that's why they're getting paid more because they're the best of the best.

And because McDonald's pays less, they're less concerned. Because the good, you know, burger employees and cashiers are going to be like, I'm going to work for In-N-Out. Yeah. I don't want to work for McDonald's. state was raising the minimum wage was that my wage would go up as well a little bit at a time along kind of the same lines. And I wouldn't be able to buy or do anything more. It made absolutely no difference. Everything, the price of everything stayed exactly the same. I was like, why are we doing this? There's one benefit, imports. And so that's why you see people like Joe Biden tie multiple policies together with the left. Free trade agreements, increased minimum wage, higher corporate taxes, drive the industry to foreign countries, give everybody in the US an increased wage, but not the slave labor

in China. So the people in China who are living under a communist boot, who live in squalor to such a degree that they've walked off of the Foxconn buildings in mass suicide incidents, and the Foxconn lab had to put up nets to catch people to stop from killing themselves, they don't get a wage increase. So what happens with the minimum wage increase that helps Americans is that if you're making $10 an hour, and then they increase your wage to $15, congratulations. You can now buy. It's now easier for you.

Your buying power in terms of import goods has gone but you need to maintain your slaves that's the only way it's a slave economy yeah we live in a slave economy china has to maintain the the yay abraham lincoln freed the slaves but there's a lot more slaves that we're there's literal there's we're using listen first of all slavery is never there's more slaves alive today than there's ever been dude what the heck and it's it's you know uh the the obama's involvement in libya resulted in the return of the north african slave trade it's it's it's it's insane i can imagine using robots as manufacturers because you know like a computer slave but you got it for now you still need people to do the finer manipulation of you know like you know you can use your hands to do better than yeah we didn't

even talk about the increase in automation right yeah you know mcdonald's they have like what sometimes i'll go into like a newer mcdonald's it'll be like one person at the register and five machines that you do well beyond that you go to like travel stops when you're driving around the country and they have a robot robot ice cream man you ever see these things yeah and it's like there's a little guy it's like a creepy like cylinder with little arms. And its arm will spin and then grab the cup and then go. And then it'll pull the lever down, fills the ice cream up. And it's like staring at you with its like creepy robotic gaze.

And then like the sprinkles come down and it goes. I love it. I think the automation economy is inevitable. And that the whole job economy thing is probably going to be a thing of the past. Somebody's got to build the robots. Somebody's got to design the past eventually somebody's got to build the robots somebody's got to design the robots somebody's got to maintain the robots electricity this has happened all throughout history right you know one industry goes you know and people i mean it's not like it used to be where you can work a job for 20 30 years you need to constantly evolve your brain and how you work and your worth ethic

and your skills and your knowledge constantly you can't get comfortable and work a job for 30 40 years obviously there's some jobs you can but for the most part your job right now is going to be obsolete in 10 years i would tell you your story about the homeless guy i met in chicago no so this is a story i tell a lot of people and i probably told it on this show but i i there's a homeless guy i was skating downtown chicago when i was like 18 or 19 and he looked like he was like 60 he was some old black dude and i had some leftover pizza so i was like i was like hey man i was like you want some pizza i just was leaving a restaurant and he was like yeah for sure man i think he called me young blood or something and i was like you got it bro and you know fist bump and then i was like i asked you a question a personal question and i was like are you homeless and he says yes sir i am and i

was like how did that happen long story short he, he said, listen, man, he's like, you know, I worked, I think they worked for the post office or something, or he worked, he worked for some company for years. And then eventually, when the company started downsizing, and they didn't, they didn't need whatever the company produced anymore, you know, one day, someone comes up to him and says, sorry, man, like companies going under, nobody buys this product for whatever reason. So, you know, we're gonna have to let you go you get about one more month so he loses his job and then he says the first thing he did was he went to go find more jobs but when you're an expert working at this factory that produces a specific product like what job are you going to find to maintain yourself he's like i got i got an apartment he's like i got bills and i need a certain amount of money but because my skill is in this area, once I lose that job, I go to any other company. I'll go to, he's like, I go to McDonald's. I go to Wendy's and they're like,

we'd love to hire you. You seem great. Some places say you're overqualified. You were a manager. Oh, sorry, we can't hire you. But even if they do, you go from making 20 bucks to 10 bucks. He's like, I got a job,

but I still couldn't afford my bills. Eventually I start, my car gets taken. I can't afford my rent anymore. Then eventually the, the, you know, the landlord comes and he says, if you don't pay your rent by this time, I'm kicking you out. And he's like, listen, man, he's like, I'm old man. He's like my friends and my family, they they're gone. Many people have passed. And then one day they come to me and say, you can't pay your rent. You're gone. He's like, I exhausted unemployment benefits. I had nothing left. And now here I am. Yeah. We're going to see a lot of that happen now because of the lockdowns. We're going to see ex-business restaurant owners being managers at McDonald's if they're lucky.

Oh, get under the boot of the corporate machine, man. That's what we're going to see. And you know what? You know what really bothers me? I want to go back to this. The minimum wage is stupid. And I will assert myself as left on economic policy. Everything I just explained

about this guy losing his job and becoming homeless is a problem brought up by economic leftists. But I'm not stupid enough to think the minimum wage solves that problem. And you know who's for the lockdowns right now? Bill Gates. It's the left. Yeah.

The leftists who are destroying, like, listen, there are Republicans who are ignoring it. Like I said, the Democrats in these cities and states have destroyed the economy, and they've turned people from small business owners with their own little private space and fiefdom and ownership that made them happy, and they've pushed them down into the poverty class. And they want them to live under the boot of corporations, And it is the left in this country that is doing it. The left is supposed to be saying that government is good. Government is good. We all work together.

We do socialism. And the people are in this together. The Democrats. They're using the power of government to force people to work for McDonald's. That's the left. The Democrats' future, they want it to be just 10, 20, 30 big trillion-dollar corporations, and the rest of the country just works for them. Exactly. That's the Democrats' socialist future.

And it's so crazy because they have the voters totally fooled. They have the voters fooled that that's fighting for the people. They hate these big corporations. They hate the billionaires. But everything that they're supporting is funded and supported by the same people they say they hate. They're being so duped. Yep. I was making the most in any like menial job, the most money I ever made.

I wasn't making minimum wage. I was making $2.13 an hour as a waiter. And I was getting tips based on percentages of sales. So I was making percentages of what the company was making. And that was the best living I could make. So maybe we don't need minimum wage. maybe we need like a guaranteed percent of the democrats were very leftist of course the democrats in some areas i know they were doing this with uber they were they were fighting for waiters and waitresses to make minimum wage yes no more tip economy

if you were a waiter and a waitress you don't want to make minimum wage no you get taxed if you work at a good yeah you get taxed too if you work at a good bar you can come waiter and a waitress, you don't want to make minimum wage. No, you get taxed. If you work at a good—yeah, you get taxed, too. If you work at a good bar, you can come home with a couple thousand in it. And if it's cash, it's not—I mean, they say to declare all your tips, but every waiter I know— Yeah, they don't. Unless it's credit card. That's why you always make sure you— Yeah, all your credit card.

I'll leave it there. Tip with cash so that it's on the waiter's back. No, no, no. Pay your taxes. Yes. And pay your taxes. I know people who do waitering and people who do it full time as a full time job, they'll claim like half of their tips.

But also, how is it that if you help me move some boxes and I give you 50 bucks that you need to go tell the government? Yeah. That's crazy. I mean, technically. Get off my back. You know what? That's probably another reason why the Democrats want corporate America because everything

goes through the taxes. That's why they want digital currencies too. Yes. They want everything to be tracked and everything. You know, so look, I'll try and keep as vague as possible because I don't want to, you know, reveal people's private information. But I have friends when I was growing up where one dude goes to college, gets a degree, and then he gets out and the job he gets with that degree pays him like 15 bucks an hour.

And he's happy. He's like, yeah, I got a degree. It's an entry level position. You know, i'm 22 and then i have friends who go and serve you know uh like at a restaurant you know like a steakhouse and they make 50 bucks an hour yeah they don't want minimum wage i opened up my own small business a few years ago i opened up a grilled cheese so you're a fascist i opened up a grilled cheese joint called get grilled really. Really? Yeah. Does it still exist? No, no, no. We wanted to turn it into a brand.

It was like a Subway for grilled cheeses. Amazing. It was awesome. But Subway can do grilled cheese. I mean, not really. You don't go there for grilled cheese. Right, right. Good bread, good cheese.

Yeah, and it was a really good idea. It was awesome. Everybody that visited was like, wow, this is going to be big. This is awesome. They're so good, the grilled cheeses. We made the process as similar to that streamlined process to make things easier yeah and uh the thing is after doing that realizing all the regulations of coming in how expensive it was because of the taxes my employees made way more money than me

yep and i had to end up paying them out of the pocket because it wasn't profitable and um one of the reasons was one the mall that we were in was really bad and then two just like the regulations of them coming in all this useless stuff that we don't need and then some like idiot who's coming there and like you know making sure everything's up to code made us put like this six foot like what we what you see now when you go into a store and there's like that glass shield they made us put that over the food you know and like when we're talking to the customers we gotta like lean over because they can't hear us because the wall is like curved there's they're like that's just like unnecessary

like what like there's a there's a metric where they they there's a correlation between the strength of a country's economy and the ease at which an individual uh has to start a business the harder it is to start a business the worse economies do and i'll tell you we talked about this you know last week or whatever in tunisia i'm sorry real quick and also in that same mall all the similar businesses were all owned and ran by the business owner exactly they would work 12 hour shifts now the only way they can be profitable sorry i'll cut you off in uh in tunisia the Arab Spring started because a guy was trying to sell fruit from a cart. And the government kept blocking him and wouldn't let him.

So eventually he just went in front of a building and set himself on fire. But I'll tell you this. You think grilled cheese is a good idea? You want to know the best idea ever for a fast casual restaurant? What? You go in, all right? And there's three key food items. Three food items.

That's what we saw. And then sides. And you know what it is? It's chicken t food items. That's what we saw. And then sides. And you know what it is? It's chicken tikka masala. It's pad thai. And it's orange chicken. Yeah. So those are actually like the top.

That's kind of like what In-N-Out does. It's fries and burgers. And that's why they're able to. I'm half kidding though. But like I had this idea because I was reading about the top things ordered from, you know, whatever. It's like pad thai, chicken tikka masala, and orange chicken. And I was like, put them all in one fast, casual place.

You know, call it super. You know what you could do? I'm going to reveal this idea online. Maybe someone will build it. You make combinations where they can go in and they can decide what oil they want. Do they want coconut, olive, you know, sesame oil? And then what vinegar they want. Do they want rice?

What you just pick the oil And the vinegar That goes into the food Changes the flavor completely There's a place in There's a chain in New York That does that And you'll be like

I'd like a white wine vinegar With a coconut oil And they have a fridge Full of all the different Kinds of lettuce They have like spinach Spring greens Romaine

Iceberg And then they have The different meats And then they have Different fish Yeah Yeah yeah different fish And you walk in

You'll say I'll do spring greens With grilled chicken And I'll do You know the grilled chicken, and I'll do the white wine vinegar with crispy onions and mushrooms. And then they take it all, and then they cook it in front of you as you walk down the line. It's a really good place. It's all about that oil and that vinegar, man.

I forgot what it's called, though. I forgot what it's called. Is that the one where they cook it on a thing with sticks? That's hibachi. No, no. No, that's the one where they cook it. It's kind of like Chipotle. You walk and you get in line, and then you walk up and say, what do you want?

And you're like, spring greens, steak. And they cook the steak and they cut it in front of you. It's amazing. The thing is, with the restaurant industry, the more you add to the menu, the more options you give, it just adds more to the cost of running things. Because then if you have more items, you need more space. Because obviously at first, too. You just keep your base ingredients. Like you want a salmon you want like a steak and like that's why also chicken that's why yeah like chipotle is so streamlined it's like you know four different types of meats three different two different types of rice two different types of

beans and you can make all these different types of combinations same thing with in and out it's just burger and fries so it's like they can handle 100 customers every 10 minutes because it's only burgers and fries they're just mass cooking it and getting it out the door yeah well if they had to make to order at in and out you'll be online for six hours and then you have in seattle you have dicks do you know dicks in seattle last resort no it's just called oh it's uh it's a hamburger joint called dicks and so the reason it's tasty the reason why they do really well though is not because they they just sell burgers and fries and milkshakes i think but you want to know why that that business does really well because when i'm in seattle my friends go you

want to eat a bag of dicks i'm not always say yes no i'm not kidding i'm not kidding and so and then and then the first time i heard that i was like haha very funny like no no no dicks the burger joint and i'm like wait what no like yeah it's a burger joint. I was like, oh. Hell yeah, oh, burgers now. So all of a sudden, but think about it, think about it. All of a sudden you're like, someone, like,

what do you want to do tonight? Let's go out. Let, you know, let's go eat a bag of Dick's. And you're like, and then everyone's laughing. So somebody gets the joke and then you actually go

and buy the burgers, right? So it's like, it's clever marketing, clever marketing. But you know, anyway, we were talking about. Dick's a funny word's be honest it's a guy's name that's right you know you don't really creep to me i saw a billboard was on seattle and it was a pig grilling bacon or something what yeah it was like a billboard for like a smokehouse or like like barbecue and it was like a smiling pig with a chef's hat and he was like frying bacon and i was like geez yeah pigs will eat each other, I believe.

Yeah, they will. Yeah, they will. Luke was telling us about that. Luke was saying that, you know, he was on a farm with a bunch of pigs and the pigs will like bite you because they're trying to eat you and you got to like kick them back and stop them. Dang, they're hungry. And then he was saying that what they do when you're on a farm and there's no food and you're

like struggling or starving, they'll cripple one of the pigs and the other pigs will just eat it oh wow crazy dude pigs are nuts i'm gonna go to the bathroom i'll be back anyway regulation joey regulation destroys small businesses oh yeah i mean i've seen it firsthand and it's you know i was at this one place yesterday damn what was the name of it it was in staten island and the guy got arrested oh yeah yeah you went to that bar max uh pub house or public yeah yeah you went there yeah i went there we were just all hanging out oh that's right because you're a former congressional candidate from staten island that's right yeah no former loser so um former loser you did lose i did lose ongoing loser ongoing loser so um what they did was they did all the legal loopholes to get past lockdowns they're um you know an autonomous zone they're uh a chapel now

i told them i'm like just put a black lives matter sign on the front because de blasio says that's okay yeah but even though they're doing all the legal loopholes to open up it does not matter because the democrats agenda like their their law is a sliding scale even though they're doing all the legal loopholes to open up, it does not matter because the Democrats' agenda, their law is a sliding scale. Even though you're following it, eh, I don't like it. We're going to shut you down. Those people in particular, they're broke. It's the cops, bro. There'd be no shut down.

This guy would not be shut down if the cops weren't enforcing it. Exactly. I heard that people were telling me that it's not so much the nypd but the sheriff exactly troopers nypd they came to my family's restaurant multiple times they don't give a damn they come whatever although i never told you this story so my family's restaurant opened up in the summer when they allowed some of the outdoor dining and then they um a health official came and analyzed the place or whatever. Everybody was wearing masks. They were all up to code.

Some people were wearing masks that weren't like mask masks, but they were like a face visor, like a CT, like plastic visor. I guess that wasn't okay. That's got to be cloth. Yeah. And the guy comes in. He looks around, and he takes the liquor license away. Just what? Right like that?

Right then and there. Wow. And then it goes to i guess uh the liquor department can you give the booze away if you have no liquor license that's another loophole that i think max was doing yeah giving the food away and then just had a donation yeah yeah yeah um but you know the loopholes don't matter right right um then i went online and i found the liquor authority their live stream of them all talking and declaring for every business okay we're gonna find them fifty

thousand dollars okay we're gonna find them thirty thousand dollars but uh they have to shut the music off at ten o'clock like all these rules trying to punish businesses and these are unelected people sitting in a position of power and trust me they're the stupidest looking people you look at them you're like these people should be bums on the street and they're the ones like dictators deciding what businesses are allowed to do and the fines that they have got to get out of new york city yeah and i saw them they did the whole thing on my family's restaurant. It was completely wrong. They were looking at photos.

They had drone footage. And they said, yeah, we see people not wearing masks by the pool. They listed off a bunch of other things. I forgot what it was. But everything they listed, there's no pool. That's what I'm trying to say. There's no pool. I was like, that's kind of weird. Everything they were listing off was not even true and was not even, like, they must have had the information from the wrong place.

Or they don't care, man. Or they don't care. And there's no appeal process. You can't state your case. It's just whatever they say, they bang the gavel and you're done. Joey, you're actually wrong on all counts. Just because some random person says it doesn't make it true. Like, if a random person is like, we're shutting you down, be like, who are you?

Yeah, exactly. I'm the health inspector. Says who? badge what badge who's that from sorry then they send the state troopers over and then come back with the police come back with a warrant i told my mom then get arrested i told my mom i'm like next time they come next time they come you tell you take your phone out you start recording you tell them they have no legal constitutional rights to come here and do what they're doing and you kick them out and you tell them to come back never like you kick them out. You tell them to come back. Never. You kick them out. You say you're banned from the premises.

Do not come back here. You know what, man? I guess this isn't true for Staten Island. You guys elected Max Rose, all right? He's out now. Yeah, he's out now, but look. Am I supposed to have sympathy for New Yorkers who keep voting for these people? See, Staten Island does not vote for any of those.

We want to succeed from the city from the city the city won't let us because the city knows okay if we let what's the city gonna do to stop you that's what i'm saying like why aren't we just doing it well the city file this file file a claim with the state or the supreme court there's new york city taxes and then there's state taxes it's crazy and the city will not let us leave because everybody in manhattan would immediately move to staten island yeah all the big businesses will move over there to avoid the tax no they'd move to jersey city man they do that too but i'm saying staten island still got to pay taxes we'll live in jersey city yes staten island will like there'll

be a mass exodus from manhattan over this and it'll make the democrats look bad because everyone's fleeing just like they're fleeing now everyone from staten island kind of a bandit ship hey man they're just going to florida ulysses s grant says anybody who feels like they're oppressed by their government has a right to revolution that was that's ulysses man he is that's the north you know what's um i love stat i've been there a couple times i was there for hurricane sandy i did with occupy sandy i did clean up in Staten Island where boats would be washed up onto people's lawns. It sounds crazy, dude. What's the middle of the island like? I've only ever been to the—you know how roads will go around and in the middle it looks like just wilderness and mountains?

There's a lot of wooded areas, but everything's starting to be torn down for more houses. The property value I heard from a realtor was actually going up because it's one of the places people are leaving Manhattan for. Even though you're still part of New York City, it's just less crime. It's very clean town. This is the thing. You know that people in New York City don't consider Staten Island New York City. That's the thing.

Every liberal leftist Democrat in New York City is like, F Staten Island. It's an asshole. It's not New York City. They tell me that Brooklyn was in New York City. They don't want to be a part of you, just to let us leave. No, they want your money, dude. They just want our money. You hate us.

The leaders hate us. The voters hate us. We don't want to be a part of you. The Staten Island Ferry is fun, though. That would be interesting to break up the boroughs. It is, man. Going from what's like Battery Park or whatever, then you take the boat to Staten Island. Brooklyn and Queens are kind of connected.

They're so interwoven. It'd be tough to break those into two cities. Queens is huge. We're a whole other island, man. Queens is massive. People don't realize how big it is. It's the biggest borough, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's ridiculously big. Yeah, but Staten Island, I think I've been there three times. And I lived in New York for five years. Three times I've been to Staten Island. But I would go to the Bronx, Harlem, Queens, Brooklyn, Manhattan, all the time time like a couple times a day you're bouncing around you got a friend in the upper west side they'll come over across the bridge come to the bronx or whatever but sure and all the democrats they like to say uh staten island's a big pile a big dump hey it's the only like borough you can have a clean nice backyard not trip over people in the streets i'm like you hate on it because

you ain't it you know is the city of new york extracting the wealth from the boroughs and then centralizing it in manhattan i don't really know no well well yes but if we replace the word manhattan with like de blasio's pocket mansion yeah like his wife getting two million dollars for her staff or whatever dollars went missing or something yeah yeah new york gotta love it you know uh i think new york if you live in new york city you have the second highest taxes in the country because of the city tax yeah it's city income tax city you gotta pay the city state and federal california is the highest income tax people are flinging here california wants to do what if you spend at least 60 days in california non-consecutive they'll tax you for 10 years

wow good luck, that's why I'm moving to Vegas zero state taxes, oh but they got you already bro they got you, they got you I'm moving at the beginning of the year, don't matter if they pass this bill, they pass this law or whatever they're gonna come after you, now let's be real, what are they gonna do, California state trooper

gonna show up in Vegas, right, no they'll just shut my bank accounts down. If they're California-based. Yeah. Oh, no. I'm doing everything. All my documents are going to be Nevada. California has, this year, I think they lost 140,000 people.

Negative migration over the past several years. Dude. California is collapsing. I want to give a shout-out to Vegas. I love that city. If you go to the outskirts where it's like it's there'll be houses and then there's desert like your front yard is desert and you can see mountains and then behind you is the city lights of vegas yeah but you know that vegas

is being uh uh they're reversing what's it called reverse desertification or whatever a desert reclamation so because people who move to Vegas want lawns, they import water. Where? From? People move to Vegas, and then they want lawns. Because they don't want desert. They don't want sand, right? What if they'll start seeding?

You know how they're in Abu Dhabi? They're rain seeding. They don't need to do that. There's already clouds popping up all over Vegas. It's a desert. Oh, because of the lawns. Because the lawns are holding moisture, and are watering them and the water is cycling back. And so the more people move in and the more pools and the more grass.

Dude. Well, I've noticed all the houses that I looked at when I went on my search. I don't think I saw maybe one house with a lawn. Good. But a lot of the houses had fake grass and then obviously desert shrubbery. That's what I've noticed. Check this out. Maybe in Summerlin I could see more of that.

I'll tell you something really crazy. People go to Vegas to vacation, right? So you get on a plane. And while you're on the plane, you use a bathroom. There's a lot of water in your poop, in your urine, right? The plane dumps all that off in Vegas when they clean out the system. We are importing fluids yeah from human beings not only that they got to import soda and water and drinks for all of the tourists who keep coming in exhale

water yes exactly you exhale water so people every time people come to vegas it's getting like i remember i was there and it was partly cloudy and i had been to vegas like a decade ago and it was like some man-made lakes there too yeah yeah yeah we're importing water like crazy and then the grass is really what's retaining it so we're turning the Vegas into you know green like we're terraforming yeah it's crazy I wonder that Mojave that's the Mojave desert is that that desert I think it's Mojave um if that's a left if that sediment deposit left over from the flood 12,800 years ago that north american glacial flood that just dumped it's that's the landscape and then dropped it's all sand like i know the sahara is ocean sand if you look at i just got pushed up onto the continent and i wonder if this is also like if we could remove that sand if there would be fresh dirt underneath that's interesting i don't think it

matters i think humans are inadvertently terraforming just raining on top of it because that that grass is going to turn into dirt eventually. Dude, that's awesome. And then we're going to grow more grass and we just keep bringing it in. Import dirt. No, for real, people are. So we are like, that's crazy.

I wonder what we could do to the Sahara too. Because what they've been doing with the Sahara is they've been planting trees along the desert line to stop the desert from growing. Because it's killing and expands. So they keep planting trees and trying to, big ones, and so it blocks the spread of the desert from growing because it's killing and expands. So they keep planting trees and trying to, you know, big ones

and so it blocks the spread of the desert. We could, you know, turn more places green, man. Yeah, I'd like to put all that ocean sand back into the ocean

at some point. Yeah, just get a shovel and start. One at a time. Yeah, yeah. Or maybe we could use drones to start carting it now

and get it done in 20 years. Drones can't carry that much weight. One by one. If you have 100 million drones and they each carry 20 minutes, 10 ounces, that's all much weight. One by one. If you have 100 million drones and they each carry 20 minutes, 10 ounces, that's all you need.

One cup at a time. Let's do this. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about aliens. Yes. This will be the last we can talk about. We'll go super chats afterwards.

But check this out. Huge ball of fire falls from the sky and crashes into a Chinese county, leaving locals stunned. Giant fireball was spotted flashing across the sky over Nankian, China.

Footage shows the burning sphere exploding and plumbing into the country. Let me play this video for you guys, all right? Let me play this video. Wait, what? What is this?

What? Okay, no, that's a video of a mob attack for some reason. What is this? Yeah, that auto plays. That's so dumb. All right, let's refresh Daily Mail and let's play the... Look at this. This is crazy. Whoa. It's like the sun. What is this? Yeah, that auto plays. That's so dumb. All right, let's refresh Daily Mail.

And let's play the... Look at this. This is crazy. Whoa. It's like the sun. What is it? Wow. Is it a comet? You can hear people yelling in Chinese.

Yeah, no kidding. And it crashed into the ground, apparently. What was that? Was that at night? That was at night. Oh, it looks like daytime. Look at it. Watch.

Once it goes over the ridge, you see it get dark. Holy cow. Satellite? Wow. Is that a satellite coming back in? Come on, Ian. Ian. It could have been. Well, I mean, I know it. Watch. Once it goes over the ridge, you see it get dark. Holy cow. Is that a satellite coming back in? Come on, Ian. Ian. It could have been.

Well, I mean, I know it's aliens. I'm just thinking outside the box. Thinking outside the box. Exactly. We know it's aliens. Being conspiratorial could be a satellite. We know it's aliens. A rock.

Aliens. That sells close. Unidentified object exploding into a blazing sphere, plunging. You know, I feel bad for the aliens. They were probably doing routine surveillance, and they did malfunction, bursting of into flames and now we're sitting here watching out of all the places china i want it was probably i mean now 20 new religions satellite probably to 20 right satellite does make the most sense but uh let's entertain the idea because we were supposed to get aliens this year right remember that dude from israel said aliens are real do you see that joe

yeah a guy we had a guy in canada like 10 years ago, former defense minister or whatever, said, yep, aliens are real. And he basically said, we need a one world government or something like that. Hey, it could be a false flag for globalism. I need aliens. You need them. I'm desensitized by Twitter and now I need aliens. We gotta have aliens.

You know what, man? Yes. We need aliens. We do. I'm bored. I'm so ready so dude listen listen listen donald trump filed some like lawsuit or whatever in pennsylvania to like overturn the results and i was like i don't want to do another segment talking about because he just did it again

like a couple days ago and it's like here we go another claim challenging it for many of the same reasons and i'm like really man can an alien just like come with a jet pack and land so we can change the subject that'd be cool i mean talk about something else we'll throw them in cages yeah yeah probably the illegal illegal aliens illegal aliens yeah maybe meditation but aliens i prefer it aliens would be fun so i'm gonna i may be playing too many video games ian let me ask you the obvious question why didn't they go and scoop up this this thing that crashed okay it landed across definitely a satellite now but there's multiple videos of government crazy it's like this is in china look at this look at this video covid it was it's like it's night out and it looks like daylight

whatever this is that's big yeah dude it's a bunch of illegal aliens it looked it looked like a bolide a very bright meteor very convenient or it was aliens firing off their test that was a meteor wouldn't there be a little bit more of an explosion on the ground when it hits the ground yeah i don't know at the ground yeah wouldn't something happen i don't know if it would explode let's see the the nansiang county government told red star news that it had heard the matter but was unclear of the details. That must be scary. And then Daily Mail gives us this really great breakdown of what an asteroid, comet, meteor, meteoroid, meteorite is. Thank you.

Yeah, what's the difference? An asteroid is a chunk of rock left over from collisions of the early solar system, mostly located between Mars and Jupiter. A comet is a rock covered in ice, methane, and other compounds. It orbits, take them further in the solar system. A meteor is what astronomers call a flash of light in the atmosphere when debris burns up. A meteoroid is the debris itself. Most are so small, they

vaporize in the atmosphere. And if any of this meteoroid makes it to Earth, it's called meteorite. That's so dumb. That's why you see comments, like Haley's comment, that, like, comes back, because it's, like, stuck in the atmosphere. And it's ice. So an asteroid's rock, comet is ice. Yeah, it's in the orbit. and a meteor is when it enters the earth's atmosphere dude when i saw this i thought it was day out and i just watched the video and i realized it was actually

nighttime what if it was uh the exposure of the camera got messed up that's all it is not because there's multiple videos of it no no i oh i mean uh for the daylight exposure of the camera but i think because the uh the other video where it shows it's really dark out, and then you see it light up, like in this video, it's really dark out. There's no sun. It could be some new military equipment that went wrong. Yeah, maybe. Yeah.

Yeah. China could be testing some kind of crazy weapons, and that's it. Do you think aliens are real, Joe? Of course. Do you think they're here? I mean, if they're real, they would be here. Why? Why would they be here?

I don't know. Do you go and hang out and watch anthills? I guess some people do. You know what I mean? What if aliens are just little kids watching stupid humans who dumb human stuff? And we think they're this intelligent race that can't come here. Think about you staring at an anthill and just watching them do their thing and being like it's crazy it's like so relevant yeah so just like looking at it because you're like i don't want or like

imagine watching pigeons and you're like wondering where the baby baby pigeons are because you never see them you'll never see full-grown pigeons what if that's what it is it's like the aliens who come here just driving by and it's like it's like rubbernecking they're like driving by earth and they're like oh look at all those people down there what are they doing and then people are like the aliens are here they're gonna kill us all and the aliens are like i gotta go to jim's house we're like people we're definitely an irrelevant spec yeah to them maybe yeah we got nuclear weapons i guess that's concerning it just depends on where the aliens are in terms of ability and technology you gotta think all of existence what billions or trillions of years i

don't know how long of existence and how long have we existed and then there's all that time before so who knows they can be a hundred million year civilization which could be infinite amounts of time yeah the big bang is just one of many rubber banding explosions of coalescence of matter and then propulsion for the first that's statistically impossible no it's not i mean it is possible statistically but i mean it's actually one of the answers to fermi's paradox yeah you're familiar with fermi's paradox or no no it's just it's this idea like if if the universe is this big and it's existed for this long and life is produced at this rate shouldn't we have seen aliens at some point or some evidence of

them and there's a bunch of different it's a question basically and there's a bunch of different answers as to why we haven't one of the scariest ones called the great filter the great filter is this idea that all civilizations intelligent civilizations come to a point where they destroy themselves yeah that's the idea that the globalists have. The climate change people. That's why they want the authoritarian lockdown. Because they feel like humanity will wipe itself out with war, with famine, with death, with pollution and destruction unless we control every aspect of their lives. That's not – I don't believe that's true. What if they destroyed themselves and then rebuilt? And then that's – or they kept destroying themselves multiple times.

Well, the idea is like if we fired off every nuke and every arsenal in a mutually assured destruction, this planet would be a smoldering rock. They'd just be unmanable. Also, I think

these other, we're humans, they could have evolved differently. Right, they could be giant floating sacks of gas. Or wolf people. Or like,

what if they're giant ants that just work together like a hive mind. Insects. With tentacles for arms and they don't care about, like our idea of emotions and everything might not exist on whatever these aliens are they could breathe methane there's so many champs but okay so our

universe was formed it looks like it was mitosis that formed our moon um planet thea after the cataclysm of the unit of the solar system's creation 3.6 billion years ago 24 planetoid bodies all colliding one of them smashed into into Earth. They call it Theia. And then it came out the other side like this form of mitosis. It's this molten ball that formed, slowly cooled into the moon. This perfect magnetic shape that blocks out the sun exactly

when you have it between the Earth and the sun. Not at the time. The moon used to be really close. And it's drifting away. Yeah. And it looks like it's magnetically all kind of held in place. Gravitally? That's the reason why we grew up on this planet is because we had that moon pulling the tides and evolving our bodies. It's possible that that is a chemical reaction that's common throughout the universe, that planetoid mitosis.

So maybe – but I haven't – I don't think we've ever located another solar system where we can condemn that that has happened. Didn't they find water on Mars? Definitely. Water particles, I think, in the soil. Well, they're not sure. I think they recanted that or whatever. But there's a ton of Earth-like planets. Yeah.

I guess the issue, though, is, going back to Fermi's paradox, the great filter is one of the problems. The other is we might be the first. We might be the first intelligent species. It's possible. I think it's unlikely. But defy intelligent. Capable of manipulating their environment and building tools. You think that is like a planet of little dinosaurs running around?

Probably. Yeah. Little dinosaurs. They were here before. See, now if that's there, eventually they would evolve to something like us. Not necessarily. Evolution isn't linear. Yeah.

Like intelligence isn't necessarily going to guarantee your survival. So we eventually, I think it was like 40,000 years ago, humans got to the point where they were like, hey, I realized something. I can, like, use this rock to do a thing. Yeah. You ever see that video of the orangutans spearfishing? Oh, yeah. I saw that. They're saying, like, orangutans are reaching, like, some kind of, like, caveman state where they're, like, using tools and stuff.

That's why I think the aliens spliced our dna that's what i think wow well that's like one of the famous conspiracy theories that aliens took primates and spliced their dna and we don't have the missing link we do have the missing link though i i i heard that there's like millions of years we murdered them all off well so all those other hominids. Like 20 years ago, there was the missing link that people would cite for evolution. That's why they didn't believe it. And then we found the missing link. And they said,

well, what about the missing link between this and the next one? Yeah, there's always a missing link. Then we found it. Then we found it. And we've actually gone way back. And then we found, I think it's called Lucy.

Yeah. The oldest human ancestor, like a skull. I've heard of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we found evidence of this stuff. And people back then were smaller, too.

Well, I don't know if it went bigger than smaller. Homo fl five foot six yeah now they got tall and now they're bovine hormones that's why apparently all that cow i heard that the napoleon complex like of him being short and whatever he was just normal size right exactly and the reason people think he was short is because his guards were big because he would clearly pick the big strong dudes the guy and the the British intentionally ran with it to make fun of them and spread that rumor. That makes sense. You ever hear of the stoned ape theory?

What's that? Apes, that we evolved from apes, but it was because they started eating marijuana and mushrooms. Psilocybin. And started to, their brain's chemistry started to change. Is this the Joe Rogan thing? Yeah, I think Joe's talking about it a lot. Tell me about the Joe Rogan thing. And I'm all about like animal not

i'm not into animal cruelty but i would love to corral a bunch of apes and feed them mushrooms and just watch them if they want to eat it yeah and just let them make it optional kind of want so maybe that's what we are for another species here's a here's a a thought experiment thing so i guess you know a lot of religious people believe that you know us humans really only ones with the soul. And then I guess animals have life forces. But then obviously we know evolution is a real thing. We know we evolved from something.

And let's just say we evolved from apes. At what point in that evolution... Or the common ancestor. Yeah. And at what point in that evolutionary process does one have a soul and one doesn't? If you do believe in all that. Is there like the... Where is that one point? there are there are interesting things we talked about this on the on the show with michael and alex uh alex jones the pre-cambrian explosion there's a period

in the fossil record where all of a sudden there's just a ton of different species and there's a bunch of different explanations for why it is but people often look at that and say like you had very limited life then you had a bunch of different species all around the same time something happened. And, you know, there's weird stuff we can't answer. You know what? I think people need to realize, too. If we look back scientifically with carbon dating, with fossil records, with, you know, looking at the sedimentary layers of, like, you know, when things happen. You can see, like, volcanic ash.

You can see, like, radiation. It's all really well and good because the logic is there but you wouldn't be able to look back and find a spaceship so like the point i'm making is while i don't a lot of weird stuff in the egyptian stuff like the helicopters and spotlights but here's the point in the bible i mean yeah spaceships moses followed a beaming light in the sky for seven days. Was it Enoch? Went behind a rock and God gave him a tablet. Yeah, electricity is not that hard to make with vinegar and iron. There's like some book where a dude goes up to heaven and meets God or something like that. Oh, Mary was thrown up into heaven, body and soul.

There's Moses. Moses went up a mountain and spoke with God. No, it was a guy who got beamed up. Yeah, hot air balloons are super simple contraptions you might be thinking of john with a little bit of propulsion like electromagnetic heat on a hot air balloon um hang gliders super easy to make i wonder if they got into the orbit though because then you need no i'm talking about the book of enoch yeah okay so that's not in the bible just so you know right right right yeah it's it's the heb, just so you know. Right, right, right, right.

Yeah, okay. It's the Hebrew thing. It's apocalyptic religious text. It was removed from the Bible. Yes, apocryphal. Yeah, I was removed from the Bible. By who? Lots of books were.

Yeah, who has the authority to do that? All the different councils. Yeah, they had councils about this. Yeah. This is the Council of Nicaea? Yeah. The first one? I don't think it was the first one.

I'm pretty sure this is a story of the guy who was brought to heaven. Yeah. Dude, I want a copy of the OG Bible before Nicaea got their hands on it. I'm sure it'd be interesting. Talking about drugs, talking about how much acid they all dropped, or ergot at the time. I don't think you'd find that. There's so many theories of what the Bible could be about. Could it be drugs?

Could it be aliens? Could it be really God and everything? Or it could just be like- All of the above. It could be a collection of stories to help guide people. That's what I tell people all the time. Whether you believe in God or not or Jesus or not, I'm like, the Bible is a book of how to live your life.

Like, listen, listen. It's a good person. The don't eat shellfish and don't eat pork thing. It's a safety thing. Yeah, it's a safety thing. It was like telling people, like, here's the things that you should live should live by and it was you know uh bronze age individuals doing the best of their abilities and it was an attempt at explaining a lot of things and with limited knowledge they created the book man it's called the book the bible means put all together oh interesting what

language is that i don't know it means the book yeah dude i'm into the miracles the dude biblioteca like if you've ever done reiki, have you ever practiced Reiki? Where you use like your magnetic field to put energy into other people or withdraw? So did Jesus, trust me. And he was apparently a healer, like an energy healer. So I think he went and learned Reiki in like India and then came back and had all this like where you'd use Reiki on people. He's only 33 and that's not recorded. He disappeared in his 20s and no one knows where he went. I think he went like 13 to 30.

He was gone. He was like in the East practicing or meditating with like yogis and stuff. I don't know. Kung Fu and stuff. Yeah. Not Kung Fu,

like martial arts. No, I'm for like that he went and trained, you know, and I don't know if that's true because it's not in the Bible, but there's a lot of people. There's like different cultures

have depictions of Jesus and all of these depictions are of their particular ethnicity. It's interesting. There's like a drawing of Jesus in East Asia and he's Asian. It's definitely an idea. 21 Jump Street. And apparently that's all related to aliens and other weird drugs and whatever.

Let's read Super Chats. If you have not already, smash that like button. Throw in your Super Chats. We're going to read your comments now, everybody. Merry Christmas again. Benjamin says, who is John Galt? I don't know. Who is that? He's a guy. Who is John Galt? I don't know. Who is that? He's a guy. Who is John Galt?

I'm just going to shrug that one off. Yeah, right. Well, that's a good question to ask when we have Joey saying that he's leaving California and we're talking about leaving Philly. Who is John Galt is a reference to Atlas Shrugged, I believe, an Ayn Rand novel and a group of capitalists that has decided they've had it with society's overbearing arches and want to go create their own magical community on Staten Island.

Yeah. Just kidding about the Staten Island. That's where it'll be. All right, let's see. Where do they make it in the book? Is it like a fictitious? Yeah, it's in like West Virginia, I think, or something. Oh, of course it is.

Is it? I have no idea. That's where we're going. Gemcast says, hey, what do you think about a new executive power so the president can do a super veto where Congress can't overrule? Of course, he would get a set amount of of these but this would stop the omnibus packages i don't know about that i think the founding fathers are pretty clever with how they set everything up and the fact they're trying to curtail the president's power to invoke the

insurrection act like negates the point of the executive branch the executive is supposed to be able to act quickly and decisively in the face of a threat congress being like well you gotta get our approval kind of just takes that power away which is kind of ridiculous so that's a bad thing in my opinion doctor certifiable says if biden is compromised can't the u.s just out bribe china so he works for us that's it yes oh yeah gtr 35 says ethereum is down time to buy buy. I just bought some Bitcoin. Aerie Halbrin says, Merry Christmas, Tim and crew. Thank you for all you do, keeping me informed and entertained at work. Both.

Appreciate it. All right, let's see. Max Link says, Tim, you are dead wrong about what would happen as fallout of repealing Section 230. It would not be a mass exodus the way you make it out to be. It would be an instant barrage of lawsuits against Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. And then they would have to shut down the services to stop this from happening. And they'd probably do it before section, the repeal went into effect. There's just, I just don't see a way around that. They have no liability, liability protection, and they have hundreds of millions of users and you know trump will immediately sue

ev like to twitter for every fake news story and there would be no protection now theoretically twitter could try and claim anti-slap defense but then twitter has to pay for all of this for the defense for these filings for each user that's crazy no for each suit for each lawsuit so if trump said i'm suing twitter 3578 times for all of the fake news put out by these lists of journalists, all these individual defamation suits targeting Twitter. Now, I'm not saying he'd actually do that because it's obscene everybody but it would be enough for these big companies to be like we cannot assume that liability so we are going to put a pause on everything and then only verified people i don't know how twitter would function twitter twitter twitter literally is a machine that generates fake news and defamation that's all it does twitter is not telling you any any secrets twitter is not informing you as to the true realities and

nature of this world. Twitter is a place where political activists go and talk crap about each other. It's the source of cancel culture. Yes. That's the direct source. Twitter is terrible. Ban Twitter. And all you need is 1,000, 2,000 people.

Maybe Section 230 should be gone. No, because you need internet videos good. Internet tax is risky. No, but you'll have your own website. You make your own website. That's what we need. Yeah. Make your own website. Do it anyway.

Yep. And then there could theoretically be a workaround for new platforms that could arise without 230 that would bypass this by not restricting in any capacity any publishing capabilities. There's probably interesting workarounds like a mesh network RSS style feed. They could be like, we didn't publish this. It's on his server, not on ours. It's all we do is aggregate links.

You can view it for, you can portal into it from ours, but it's on their server. Exactly. We didn't publish this. We're just, you know, showing other people are posting.

Right. So that, that, that might be a good thing actually. And then people would still have to sue you, but it would strip away the powers of these big corporations. So that could theoretically, you could have your own ads that way and building an ads an ad integration thing would be key to making that function gregory horton says steven crowder has

mug club blaze tv ben shapiro has daily wire alex jones's info wars you have scnr don't fear the 230 repeal i think if they repeal 230 they're going to let me keep doing my thing because they like me as a, what's the right word? Tepid, milquetoast, fencer. Because you give them retention time. But yes, combined with the fact that I don't swear, I don't insult, I for the most part don't insult

people. I sometimes, I think we did a couple times on this show, I call people morons. But I don't like single out individuals and say this person is dumb in fact even when i'm criticizing people on the left i usually throw in a couple compliments you know yeah like i did a video recently about jenki uger's op-ed where he was talking about the three different realities in america and i said he was wrong but he's got a few of these things right so my respect you know because he did make some good points i won't make a video where i just attack

somebody and insult them i always try to keep it know, that's why they like me. Your YouTube guy is lawful good. Yes. And you're forced to talk about like chaotic evil things, but you do it from a lawful good perspective. So they're really happy. Yeah. It's just, it's hard to argue why my content shouldn't be allowed. It's opinions people don't like, but I don't insult and target or anything like that, you

know. Daniel Maxwell says section 230 needs to be amended to require all companies claiming their protections from it to abide by court interpretations of First Amendment protections and all laws regarding the First Amendment protections. It's actually simple. They need to change the phrase otherwise objectionable into illegal. That's it. Case closed. Okay, not really.

There's probably a bunch of other nuance. But they have a provision that allows them to moderate and remove content so long as it's deemed lewd, lascivious, filthy, obscene, or otherwise objectionable. The otherwise objectionable part is where they ban anyone and everyone because they go, well, in my opinion, saying orange man good is offensive because the orange man is in fact bad. Misgendering. Yeah, misgendering, right?

Not objectionable to any conservative, but to them it is, so they ban it. Get rid of otherwise objectionable to illegal, and then all of a sudden people can say things like there are only two genders or whatever dan saw says hey tim just want to let you know that the jerky will be sent within the next five or so days i forgot to ask where i forgot to ask before if there was anything you or anyone was allergic to email me so i know i didn't realize something you were sending us jerky i did not realize this either trent lamalino says if you get nuked i'm done with youtube and i'll follow you and the gang wherever i'll donate whatever uh whatever needed that i can your crew is needed i appreciate it and i think the one thing we've really we really need to step up on i mentioned this before

but there are a lot of podcasts that are not top podcasts we are a top podcast this is crazy uh this show and my Tim Pool Daily show, we have Tim Pool Daily and Timcast IRL on iTunes and stuff. And these are top little podcasts, not like number 10 or anything. It's like number 230 and like number 170. So it's still pretty good. But there are shows that are like ranked 500 or 1000, not even the top charts. They don't even register. And these people make millions of dollars it's it's really simple they just have proprietary websites where they say come to our site you pay x to hang out and we give you premium stuff that's something we don't do you know our show relies just on like the youtube system and we probably should start producing stuff directly for people

who want and like the content so that's yeah that's what i just started to do because i was so when i got demonetized on youtube all around i got so scared that they were just going to cut me off completely what am i going to do i'm done so i i've been working on like my own individual app for just all my content oh nice i'm going to start promoting that um so this way like anything i want i just post it there and i'm going to post like all the uncensored versions so when i want to talk about you know the vaccines and stuff hey that's going to be on the app. What's the app? Do you have a name for it?

But you realize you'll get banned for off-site behavior, right? That's a new thing they're adding? Yeah. I don't know if YouTube does that yet, but I know Twitch does that. But I was going to... And Patreon does that. Yeah.

The app actually just came out today, but it's not ready yet. But I'm going to call it American Now News, yet but i'm gonna call it america now news so this way i can grow it beyond me right right you know because you know one you know i want to bring in new hosts new writers and stuff right on man ed caron says the 10 million dollars to pakistani gender studies is infuriating and all but what about the 500 million to israel first and foremost why are we giving any money to anyone else when our country is locked down and in full-on panic mode?

That makes no sense. But I will say, you can justify military aid to a place like Israel. You can justify it. I'm not saying it's correct. I'm saying there's a legitimate argument and you'll argue with someone. There's no argument for $10 million to Pakistani gender studies. I'm sorry. Like, that can wait, okay?

I don't know what their gender studies thing is. You don't need the money. We need the money. I'll vote yes if you put this in and then like four other people are like, yeah, we support that. We'll all vote yes if you put that in.

Why didn't a Republican just put in Donald Trump on the election? Why not? Nobody read it. AOC was railing up against how long the bill was and they don't have time

to read it all. It's all long. And then she votes in favor of it. I mean, Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are agreeing on a lot of points on that bill. Ted Cruz voted no. Ted Cruz voted no.

AOC voted yes. And that's the problem. Josh Hawley, Republican, also complained on Twitter and then voted for it anyway. Oh, my God. Yeah, it was an excuse. But people need the money for the holidays, you know. Let's see. Nicholas Bowling Show says 100% disagree, Tim.

They are already unfairly banning conservatives. 230 doesn't protect us. Hey, Joey i i interviewed you for my site remember nicholas bowling show yeah i remember so uh it's actually a good point you know i guess conservatives who have already been banned and can't have channels are like why would i care nuke the whole thing well you got to think outside yourself you know There's a greater good. I know that... The argument is, if they can't be on it, shut it down because it's unfair. Vengeance is a real feeling. It's not vengeance. It's if you get rid of it, it levels the playing field.

Screw them. Level the playing field. I understand the one in third. Yeah. But the most powerful person tends to dominate a level playing field. Rational Redneck says, What would the repeal of Section 230 mean for sites like bit shoot it would mean that bit shoot is personally responsible for all content posted on its site because they would now be treated like a newspaper making the statement

themselves do they host content or is it all torrented between how does that how's bit shoot well i think it's torrented so maybe they would argue we don't actually host it. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they would be fine. Mr. Stantastic says, Ian, don't get enough credit. Lids is great as well. As you, Tim, first super chat, but I've had a beer and need to listen to y'all later. Thanks for what you do. Appreciate it. Homie, what up?

Don't forget Joey Salads while we're at it. Yeah, I know. He's chilling. Joe Saladino. Oh, man. Joe Saladino. Lorenzo Garcia says, CNN apparently just released Trump's budget demands, and they're similar to the original proposal.

Yeah, I saw that. I don't know a whole lot about it, but I think the issue is budget demands are different from using the COVID stimulus as a hostage, like using the American people as a hostage, basically. You have to vote for this. Otherwise, the people won't get their $600, which they can't do anything with because it's a pittance. Is it taxable, too?

No, probably not. Unemployment insurance is taxed. I told my girlfriend, she never collected, and she's unemployed because of lockdown, so she's going to get a fat check from all the backup from California, then from this. And I told her, since she doesn't really need it urgently, I'm going to help her invest it to flip it. Investments have been popping off lately i'm i'm investing in all the all the companies that support lockdowns i'm investing all the companies that support biden because those are the ones that yeah i'm

invested in some military tech this one is super common i got into black rock because of you this super chat oh really yeah because i heard him talk about it they're investing in china so i was like oh you were saying well yeah yeah yeah investing in in what like things that you think are going to go up because of the current politics yeah yeah so how are we talking about corporate america pretty much taken over like hey just find you know palantir as much as i don't want it to happen as much as i don't want mcdonald's and you know apple and amazon to take over the world like it's a way i can't do anything to stop it. So if it's going to happen, I might as well ride the wave.

No, I disagree, dude. Like pitching in and buying it. All of us collectively, we could. Well, if you buy stock in it, you'll get some say. I was like, maybe if everybody did, you could be like, shut her down. I was like, I want to invest in people I believe in. Who do I invest in right now? I'm already in Tesla.

I was like, I want to invest in Tim, but I am with my energy. Wait, hold on, hold on. We're creating a network. I just had in Tesla. I was like, I want to invest in Tim, but I am with my energy. Like we're creating a network. Wait, hold on, hold on. Like, do you think enough Americans could come together and buy enough shares and pool their shares to actually like shut down a company like Amazon? I thought about doing that with Google. I'm like, maybe if I get enough money one day, I can just buy enough shares of Google

to the point where I tell them they have to remonetize my pages. I think that's a hostile takeover. It's a tech, they used to do that a lot. Imagine if like everybody bought one share of a big company and then collectively voted. Yeah. You'd have like a massive portion of this company publicly controlled

and they'd have to do what the shareholders wanted. Yeah. Maybe that's like a way to make change, you know? Yeah, you start like a collective firm that does it. That's really cool.

MRT Fortune says, with the steel tariffs, it doubled the price of materials for a small manufacturing company i worked at it seems similar to the minimum wage debate this is interesting because i'm talking to a steel building company it's actually not that expensive to get a big steel building and we want to do it so that we can have a place to film and and have different sets and they told me today that they're like we can't give you a quote right now because the price of steel is about to go way up because maybe we should just look into graphene it's lighter it can't build

a graphene building you might be able to now it's lighter than steel too you know what's interesting we have these graphene composite batteries i bought for everybody because like ian you talk about graphene all the time so i was like christmas is coming up and i looked up graphene products and they have these batteries this is crazy stuff dude they hold like two and a half cell phone charges and they charge in about 15 minutes wow you can so like let's say you forget to charge your phone you're like oh man you take the battery you plug it in 15 minutes later you grab it walk out the door and it's got two full charges in it that's nuts it's crazy that's graphene dude so that's where we're at so far i tried looking up how the battery works and it's like too new i guess it's a super capacitor and uh um a soup it's a it's a conductor and a capacitor so it can send current and store current so it's

like a battery and and uh yeah wire at the same time pm says they hate us because they ain't us marissa says thanks to him i meant to give ten dollars so i'm adding this to the other super chat i hate the dems love staten island there you go shout out to that island love staten island charlotte jerd or jareday says my daughter applied to mcdees for her first job they told her she will start at ten dollars an hour for the first three months after that her pay will be performance based that's their loophole to get to get out10 an hour. Really? But they're paying her $10 an hour. Let's see. Daniel J. Korica says, Long Island for statehood.

I, too, am sick of my taxes going to New York City. Would Long Island be Republican? Yeah. You think so? I think all of Long Island, I'm pretty sure, voted Republican besides, like, maybe one part. The Hamptons? Is that Republican? Seems like a lot of rich Democrats. You can definitely pull up the map. I'm pretty sure it was, like, all red part. The Hamptons. Is that Republican? Seems like a lot of rich Democrats.

You can definitely pull up the map. I'm pretty sure it was, like, all red when I looked at the map. That's including Brooklyn and Queens? That part was blue. But they didn't outweigh the rest? I'm sure that population probably does outweigh Long Island. And that's the problem with Staten Island. Staten Island's a very small borough population, comparatively.

So we have no say, basically, in the mayor. Like, zero say. Neon Light says, I currently live in New York, and it's getting insane here, so far. I live around the Finger Lakes, yet every rural area around me is forced to live by NYCity rules.

NYC should not be a part of Upstate. And that's what I remember you saying on one of your episodes, which I agree with, and I've been saying forever. It's that, you know, I got the rural areas and, you know, you know, like New York City has all the voting power. And then you go to some other area and they operate completely differently. But now they're forced to follow those rules. Think about how insane it is. Look, I get it.

If a city like Baltimore is like, we got a problem with guns, so we're gonna have some strict laws. And now having those laws apply to people who live in western Maryland, who live in the middle of the woods. And what happens when 30 to 50 feral hogs come crashing on your property, but the state doesn't allow you to have guns because of what's happening in Baltimore? These kind of things don't make sense. It doesn't make sense. We've got to break up New York. Into a couple – we should break up the country. LA has got multiple governors for their borough

areas like the different counties i don't mean the different countries by the way i mean different areas broken up beverly hills has like their own their own thing i don't think they have a mayor but they like they don't follow la like they kind of do their own thing different counties have different la county and then there's a bunch of counties within los angeles cities cities should be these big cities should be separated from the states they're in yeah watch the rules change overnight illinois becomes a red state we should not let it happen because everybody would leave the cities like we gotta get it they live in the red areas and work in the blue areas there's no reason for one guy to have the power de blasio's got yep it's just too many people 18 million people well no the issue is he doesn't have the

power people just give it to him he's just given ridiculous edict he's not given the power to do this the cops just obey him because they don't know what else that they want because they need their money no no it's because the officers that obey the unconstitutional orders of de blasio are obsessed with suckling his teats so they they love and they hate each other at the same time no no no no the officers that follow the unconstitutional edicts like when when de Blasio painted Black Lives Matter illegally in the street, those cops that went down to guard it are just in love with de Blasio. They're just doing it for the money. And they love licking his feet. No.

They should have arrested de Blasio for vandalism right then and there. Well, he stole taxpayer money to do it. And then 27 cops came out. During a pandemic. During a pandemic. Everyone has to wear a mask. And then 27 NYPD cops were like, the smart thing for me to do is to obey this man. Instead of saying, I'm not going to guard that.

Are you nuts? It's like we bent over back for the police. You know why? Yep. So the important point you brought up is that the cops who are screwing with this bar, there was NYPD there. But now de Blasio is like, I'm going to bring in the sheriffs because the NYPD doesn't want to do it. And I am not saying all cops. I'm saying clearly there are cops in big cities run by Democrats who don't care.

And you know why? It's really obvious. Everybody lost their jobs. Honestly, the NYPD should arrest the sheriffs for violating the Constitution. But listen, listen. Just do it. You have people, cops in New York, and they're going around seeing everyone destitute, like suffering and losing their money, and they're like, I have a job. At least I'm safe.

And then de Blasio is basically like, I want you to oppress people and destroy their lives. And the cop goes, better them than me. And so they just give in. Now put on this white armor. Now bow to the emperor. It's like how a lot of, I don't want to say the N-word, not the bad N-word, but the German N-word. The German N-word? Yes. National socialist n word yes national socialist yes stormtrooper that's the word i was gonna flag your video because they do that online but i think i already said nazi on the show yeah as long as you don't call people

but i mean there was a lot of nazis that were just doing it just because they don't want to be on the other end they were i i read that there Nazis, like Jewish guards who are like, if they find out, so I'll just go along with it because they were scared. Yeah. Dang. And you know what? People have been telling me that because I made a post on my personal Facebook. I talked to my, you know, just my Staten Island friends. And I would say, like, dear law enforcement, we bent over back for you.

Please do not enforce these orders. And some people are like, oh, they're just following orders. It's not their fault. That's even worse. That's even worse. I'm like, they took an oath to uphold the Constitution. We're the ones paying them. We're the ones that defended them.

You don't want to see it. But de Blasio and Cuomo only have the power that they are given by, I guess, us. By the police. No, no, no. By the police. Michael Malice said this on the show, that all of these illegal acts, all of these unconstitutional laws are letters to Santa without the men and women in uniform willing to enforce against the Constitution. You know what I'd love to see? NYPD walking up to these sheriffs at that bar, Max's or whatever, and just taking the three NYPD guys, grab the sheriff and transfer him behind your back, you're under arrest. That's what needs to happen.

You don't live here. We live here. These cops live in Staten Island. Why would they let them come to their home? I'll tell you this, man. Could you imagine these NYPD cops who are either sitting back and doing nothing or enforcing this? Imagine if that was the caliber of young man we had during World War II. They'd be like, they'd land on the beaches of Normandy and be like, look, man, you know,

I'm just going to side with the people who are here because they're the ones in power. I'm not going to fight to free people. No, we need people to stand up and say, I live here.

Get the, out of my home. What we need to do is publicly, I guess privately, fund the good officers. Yeah. Because if they're worried

about losing their job. I don't know if that's legal. Like crowdfunding? But yeah, if they're worried about losing their job and getting their pay cut, it's like, hey, you know, let's all build up this fund. If you're worried about losing their job. Is that legal? I don't know. But yeah, if they're worried about losing their job and getting their pay cut, it's like, hey, you know, let's all build up this fund.

If you're worried about that, if you lose your pension, if you lose this, let's take it out of this fund. Like, you're good. You're secure. We're creating a new police department. We're creating a charity fund. We could do a global charity fund. We're creating our own government.

Here's what I'm advocating for. Here's what I'm saying. The police should arrest criminals. Yep. Does that sound crazy? Well, if it's a bad law, yeah, you don't want them arresting people that are defying bad laws. I didn't say people defying bad laws. I said criminals.

Crime doesn't make you bad. Like, if it's a bad law, you want to become a criminal to fight against the bad law. No, no, no. You're misunderstanding. I didn't say cops should arrest people who break the law. I said cops should arrest criminals. Well, if you say everyone has to go out and punch people and I say I'm not going to do it, then I become a criminal. And you're reading too much into it for no reason.

You're arguing that law and law. And what I'm saying is when the sheriff shows up and illegally detain someone, that's called kidnapping. And they have no constitutional authority or statutory authority to do it just because de Blasio said so. It is then incumbent upon NYPD to say you are under arrest for kidnapping. For some crime. Yeah, I think. I think they should uphold that kind of crime. That's literal crime.

It's like law says they can't do it and they're doing it anyway. They need to be arrested. But if you make a law that says that you can't do something you need to do, then you have to become a criminal. We're not talking about made up. You just said police should go arrest criminals. We're not talking about some new law that was just made because de blasio didn't pass any law i'm just saying crime isn't the benchmark of whether or not you should be destroyed i get what both of you guys are saying because you're you're saying that criminality is based on the laws that were made right yes you know so like

being a criminal is defined by the law but i get what you're saying at the same exact time where de blasio and these sheriffs are also breaking the law the police should go and arrest criminals yeah and i agree you're both right at the same well they should arrest those criminals they should arrest criminals for that not all criminals what why not because some laws are bad and those people shouldn't be criminals no but this constitutional law i mean i don't think non-violent drug offenders should be arrested personally not marijuana i mean you know just because you say marijuana is illegal doesn't mean that you should go arrest them all. It's a bad law. It shouldn't have been made.

It is a bad law. They should be arrested. They should sue, and the law should be overturned. But it destroys people's lives to get arrested. It wastes their time. It puts a mark on their— Having an argument about what you think is morally correct is not the point. The point is the sheriffs are coming in and breaking the law. I think there's statutory law being broken by these sheriffs and by some NYPD and their

spineless, pathetic and terrified whiny baby cops who won't do anything about it. I agree. But it's dangerous to say cops should arrest anyone that's breaking the law. That's cops should arrest people because some laws are not right. So we got to be careful about encouraging for. Yeah, but you don't want to go disrupt everybody. Then you go to a Democrat court and they lock you up for life. Bro, you can't argue that some cops have the discretion not to arrest people breaking the law

because then you're going to have a cop who helps and protects his friends. The law has to be upheld. We're a nation of laws. If laws are not enforced, then what do we have? I'm getting this because I told him it was lawful good. Okay, you're neutral good. It's a Dungeons and Dragons thing. Think about all the Democrats who are like, we should decriminalize border border crossings they shouldn't arrest these people they're broken they did they

literally committed a crime and just because you don't agree doesn't mean i have to live by your rules if we vote for people and laws are passed we deal with ramifications of that if eventually we find out the laws are bad we change those marijuana is now slowly being legalized as people start to realize and yes trump should pardon nonviolent drug offenders, those who are literally nonviolent, not anybody who pleaded down. The point is, in New York City, when an NYPD cop or a sheriff breaks the law, they need to be arrested. Or they fail to uphold their constitutional oath.

No, they get fired for. That's not a crime. I mean, who's going to fire them? The mayor's not going to fire them. And who's going to arrest the cops committing crimes should be the good cops i don't care who you are if you commit a crime you get arrested okay and that includes activists who are protesting peacefully and say it all the time non-violent civil disobedience is the best most effective way to get change it works we've seen it work it work with civil rights and riots sour people to your cause but you get arrested and you deal with the results

of challenging the system there is a there is a cost to challenging the system so should the fbi be the ones that are arresting cops that are violating the constitution the fbi doesn't do that that's a fbi handles federal i saw a video online of a cop arresting another cop yeah i saw like right then and there like i think maybe the cop was doing a little too much, like, hitting the guy. I don't know. I just saw the quick clip and they immediately, like,

took him and they arrested the cop. Were they both on duty? Yeah, they were both on duty cops and I think they might have been working the same exact thing. Let me put it this way. If I'm in New York and some guy walks up to me

and grabs me and throws me to the ground and pins my arm behind my back for no reason, that's assault and battery. So a cop should come and arrest that person. I don't care what they're wearing. I don't care if they're wearing a badge.

Now, the issue with a cop arresting you is different because we as a community bestow authority upon people under the ideal that they're going to be stopping criminals. Now, a lot of police forces have citations and fines and quota systems, and that's all bunk BS, for sure. We can argue that. But if I am doing everything legally, and I'm running my business, and some random guy comes in and blocks the door and won't let anybody in, or takes my customers and detains them, kidnaps them, takes them in their car,

you've got to arrest that person could you imagine if someone went to your business and then just like grabbed the clerk and threw him in a car and drove off you'd be like whoa under no statutory or constitutional authority did that person do that i don't care if they're wearing a badge here's another takeaway from everything going on right now where there's no constitutional enforcement from the federal government to the states trump can invoke the insurrection Act because of this. Now, he should have done this six months. Specifically in the Insurrection Act, it says if people's constitutional rights are being deprived, he can send in the military to protect their rights.

I think he should. I mean, he's not running for reelection. I was hoping that Trump was going to win and then immediately do the Insurrection Act and arrest Cuomo, arrest de Blasio. He doesn't even need to arrest him. He could send in the military to New York and and reinstate people's lives that's what needs that he should just do that right now just political willpower yeah trump could do it yeah that's what america needs right now you know it's funny because people are calling for trump to invoke martial law and you've got like his most ardent supporters and the left is saying you know

he can't do that or whatever. We're already under martial law. It's not, martial law means military law, so not literally, but we are under totalitarian, the Democrats under, listen, there's constitutional authority and there's statutory law. Statutory law are things that are passed by a legislative body. Constitutional authority is based on what the constitution of your state or the federal government gives you under neither of these cuomo wolf newsome whitmer have done things they're not allowed to do and the supreme court has said of the united states you can't do that so you know they do okay this executive order has been destroyed by the supreme court i'll issue the exact same one now literally

the exact same like they'll change some words or use some alternate arguments to do the exact same thing felonious it sounds dictatorial despotic psychotic and in violation of law and trump could invoke the insurrection act because they keep doing it the one thing i learned from all of this there's a reason why we have the constitution and there's a reason why the founding fathers put the number two in there i don't like to say it i don't like to think i don't want it to happen but you don't need to bring it up trump's the president yes but the problem isn't what the people are doing right now they elected trump they elected trump to solve these problems and the people who are seizing who are stomping on the rights of individuals

could be stopped by the president right now they can also be stopped by us that's a whole other conversation i don't want like that to happen but it just seems like that would be, at right now, this point in time, there seems to be nothing happening from the federal government or from Trump. And that, I mean, it could be up to us. They're destroying economics. They're not like stealing people's children at night. If the cops were coming in and taking people's kids in the middle of the night, you'd probably see people enforcing their Second Amendment. I don't think so. You don't? The James Younger younger case we're supposed to put younger case a man's son has been essentially taken from him and the courts ruled that the child will undergo gender uh reassignment therapy if a father wouldn't rise up in defiance of the government

after his son was taken in that way then i really don't see the it's that slow heating up the frogs republicans were way we're way more peaceful than the left if we're if we were as violent as left none of this would be happening that's a scary thing yeah and you know the lockdown protests against whitmer from months ago we had tens of thousands of americans show up peacefully with guns and what happened she extended the lockdowns and people and that's it and people just went how is it then they went home it's like oh because republicans we want to do everything legally in the court because republicans want to be left alone yeah we just want to be left alone i appeal to the president donald please enforce you think he should invoke the insurrection i think you should protect our economy at all costs from these psychotic great things are going right

now if you're not going to win the election what do you got to lose it's kind of crazy that it's it's a slow boil we're fogs in a pot the economy is destroyed these these leftists have no idea how debt to gdp works how money printing works how modern monetary policy works anything like this and they advocate for things that make no sense like deficit spending to pay for health care it's like all you're doing is stripping away the savings of people like it makes it so that nobody should save anything ever. But then, of course, they use that and say, well, we have no savings. We should have government, you know, mandated spending, you know, and buying of the resources you need. With these Democrat states destroying the economy, we get the six hundred dollar covid package that that nine hundred billion dollar deal attached to a two point3 a total of 2.3 billion dollars uh omnibus

spending for ridiculous things like pakistani gender studies shows you the system is corrupt and trump isn't fixing it that's it trump trump apparently submitted a budget request that was similar to the omnibus so people are mentioning in the super chat whether it's true or not what does trump come out and do what does what does trump come out and do he says triple it trump didn't say reopen the economy now i will not sign this relief bill until there's a mandate for the states to reopen their economies and protect small businesses throw more money at it exactly he said triple democrats they said they said great much obliged yeah absolutely trump it's kind of being a republican in one way is kind of a

double-edged sword versus being a democrat and the democrats worldview of fixing it they can just come in and like what the dictators are doing these governors oh i want this done up here's an order boink it's done even though it's unconstitutional it's tyrannical it's illegal with republicans on the other hand if they want to fix something we don't act like for the most part we don't act like dictators to get something done and fix it we don't have to go this process that process and this push back and that then you got to play the game and do all this whereas if it was a democrat here's a bill sign it tyrannical done right legislating yeah what you want i think about that with gun control like just saying it's illegal all of a sudden while people are at home printing their guns like you can't't enforce that law. You look like a mockery.

Donald Trump vetoed the NDAA. In it is an amendment that would take away his ability to curtail his ability to invoke the Insurrection Act. He would require the Secretary of Defense and himself to sign off and provide reasonable certification to Congress to approve. Otherwise, he would not be able to invoke the Insurrection Act. So think about it this way. One of the provisions of the Insurrection Act is to enforce the constitutional rights of the citizens of the state. New York is in violation of that numerous times, blocking people from going to churches and things of that nature. Los Angeles is shutting off people's water and electricity for for exercising their First Amendment right.

Mitch McConnell on the 29th is going to convene convene the Senate to override Trump's veto. When that happens, Trump will lose the ability to invoke the Insurrection Act. If Trump would do it, he has five more days. That's it. Four more days probably to do it before they override his veto. Who do you have to send in? The National Guard? Military or National Guard?

Federalized National Guard or the military? I worry that if this sets a precedent and that gets done, then what if Biden comes in and wants to ban guns nationwide? No, the Second Amendment. That would be in defiance of the Constitution. But, I mean, what we're seeing is these police officers don't care right but with the military the military i don't think would well we'll see you know like yeah i never thought in i never thought i would see law enforcement arrest people for not learning i never did never you see i've had experience with it so not here

that's what they used to say it'll never happen here i think the military is not going to go door to door listen i'm nervous they will right before lockdown started i talked i did an interview with um an nypd officer and i was telling him that about the whole lockdowns i'm like i was saying there's no way in hell that this will ever be enforced and this was before all this happened and he said to to me, you'll be surprised. I did not believe him. I refused to believe him. And then a month later, I've been to enough countries. I've been to enough protests. And I've seen enough action from police to know that many of these people just don't care.

Now, I don't think all cops are bad. The left uses a worse word than that. And 1312 or whatever, ACAB. I think there are a lot of bad cops. And I think we need police reform. And I think there are a lot of bad cops and i think we need police reform yep and i think there are a lot of good cops and they tend to be smaller cities they tend to be more rural and they tend to be conservative and they know it's the big city cops who will you know beat you over the head and say i don't care you're right we need to fund them the people that are violating the orders because if they lose their job that's it you know for them

but if we have a charity that making sure they're going to get paid regardless then there's incentive to do the right thing you should start it tim you got no i don't know about that hire someone to start it you know people get mad at me because they think i'm i'm gonna be some like leader i'll start it and then i'll pay you to promote it as a sponsorship people people people like uh trump supporters are mad saying like everyone's got to be on the front lines of this fight and going out showing up in dc in the six and i'm like i'm i might I might go to D.C. I don't know if I'm going to.

People got tired of all these lockdown protests now. This was like the summer of. The 6th isn't a lockdown protest. The 6th is the overturning the election for Trump protest. So they're saying everyone has to go there. And I'm like, bro, I'm not a leader. I'm not a part of your tribe. I'm a dude who complains on the Internet.

And I will always be that. And I'm not going to rally or rabble or tell anybody what they should or shouldn't do i'll tell you what i think what i want to happen and you do your thing you make your own opinions his uh drone war and escalation and his lack of leadership on assange has really kind of soured me to donald what's his lack of leadership on assange he's just not doing anything about it he keeps saying like um i'm considering that was like last week and now this week he this week he's announced he's considering it again. He instructed the Ecuadorian embassy, the raid on the Ecuadorian embassy. That's leadership.

Not what we want, though. Okay. Not the right leadership. Right. So he certainly made a decision. He's pulled Assange out of the embassy. And now we've yet to see him pardon Assange. It's all about pardoning the guy.

Like Daniel Ellsberg. He revealed the war atrocities. Julian Assange didn't commit any crime. He's just being effectively detained for a decade, nearly. It's like eight years now. And now he's facing charges because they just don't like that he's effective. He exposed the intelligence agencies and some of the messed up stuff the U.S. was doing. And it really

helped trump it it showed a lot of trump supporters exactly what they were doing and why you know a lot of these arguments against them uh against like deep state you know people were were correct and for a long time like a good example is sarah palin she spoke out against wikileaks wikileaks published her emails sarah palin just came out defending Assange because what we got out of WikiLeaks was good. And then you realize you're going to get with WikiLeaks, you're going to get stuff that probably don't like. You don't want leaked. And you're going to get stuff that you're probably grateful was leaked.

We learn these things from people like Assange. But Assange isn't even the leaker or the whistleblower. He's the publisher. He's the journalist. And they're doing this to him. Trump needs to pardon that guy asap the concern is if trump pardons him right now the uk will find an excuse to keep him and that trump his best bet would be to get assange to the u.s before pardoning him how don't think it's possible it's like a secret raid to get him out of

there he already did that what he said they raided the ecuadorian embassy and arrested assange and now the british authorities have him but i mean a raid on the british authorities that's not gonna happen i'd be crazy no they're trying to extradite him but he has the legal right to block the extradition and they don't trust the u.s government so they're not going to allow it so i think trump should just pardon him i don't there's any point in waiting. And if Assange wants to stay in the UK and doesn't want to come here, then just pardon him and be done with it, whatever. Now, how do we deal with the fact that people have their rights completely stomped on in a bunch of these states? I don't know. Because do we just sit back as the water slowly boils and we sit in and we know for a fact

because of Supreme Court rulings in like several states already, they are actively violating constitutional rights of these people. Or do we say something must be done and Trump should invoke the Insurrection Act and, you know, hypothetically go in and enforce constitutional. I thought he should have done it on day two of the riots. But it's like the riots and then there's the shutdown. And it's like they're two different psychotic. Listen, the Insurrection Act has been invoked numerous times like a couple dozen times and the most recent was for riots 1992 la riots then you also had the baltimore riots then you had the chicago riots in 1968 these were nowhere near as crazy as what we saw because of the insurrection act probably well i'm sorry

actually the la riots were pretty nuts but i think nationwide riots and then then 100 days in the Pacific Northwest and Trump didn't do it. There were like five days where they were just watching and then no one responded federally. So then there's all these other riots started breaking out. You know why it probably didn't really happen over the summer and that stuff? Because it's all politics at that point. It's like what move will help him win reelection? Will letting them destroy themselves show? He doesn't have to worry about that right now.

Now he doesn't need to worry. Or at the end of the day, we also don't know what's going on behind the scenes with this election stuff. Maybe he knows some stuff that we don't know that maybe he knows I'm going to win this. We don't know that. I like this super chat. I read it. Monty M says, Ian, pay your college loans, then talk about cops. I was a cop for 13 years.

The NYPD is a bunch of punks. Well, right now my loans are on a temporary deferment because of covid but uh it's my you know probably number three concern with debts i pay off my credit credit card debts and my taxes first and then i am i am panda says i agree with joey salads everyone here put money where mouth is and show up in on jan 6th in dc that's the big question trump won't make a move unless he knows he has popular support if people don't show up on the six i'll tell you this if 10 million people show up in dc on the six and it's just endless field waves trump will do whatever trump will be like okay i think i'm gonna go because i

my flight is on the sixth i might just reschedule it so I can get there. Go to D.C.? Yeah. I'm hearing from people that aren't super political telling me they're going. Yeah. So I don't know. Well, that's the thing is people who aren't political are forced into being political because of the lockdown. It's like a normal business owner, a normal worker that doesn't care about politics.

I just want to live my life. They want Trump to win. Now you're thrusted into it where when a Black Lives Matter throws a garbage can through your window, now you're in the political game. DC is a great city to congregate into. There's all this wide open space and like plazas and roads to shut – easy to shut down roads. Cool landmarks. Oh, interesting. Jon Stewart says the provision curtailing the Insurrection Act was only in the earlier HR bill, not the final Senate draft that he voted – vetoed.

Interesting. was only in the earlier hr bill not the final senate draft that he voted vetoed interesting i thought it was in the it was added as an amendment and as an amendment that was uh there was a fact check on it that said it was included in the bill but i guess you know they took it off to get off anyway i'll say it again if i think if you had 10 million people in dc i think trump would invoke the insurrection act he'd overturn the elections he'd just do whatever he wants because he has the people right there he would literally just be like, say something. You know what I mean? The people are here. They support me.

I'm going to do it. And they would cheer for it. But if people don't show up, Trump's just going to be like, thanks, everybody. Have a nice day. Trump, like in any political move, won't do anything unless they feel like they have. Obama was the same way. He didn't have any support. So he just capitulated.

Yeah. All right. Let's see. Let's do it. Let's just do one more. Josh Branson says, the military has already gone door-to-door for guns before. Look at post-Katrina New Orleans.

Interesting. Well then, if you haven't already, smash the like button. Thanks for hanging out on this Christmas Eve Eve show. We are off tomorrow and for Christmas, and then we'll be back Monday. And I'll be doing my show next on Saturday. So check out my other channels at YouTube.com slash TimCast

and YouTube.com slash TimCastNews. You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, Parler, at TimCast. Joey, do you have anything you want to mention? Your Twitter? My Twitter. Your Instagram? I guess, like my podcast, The Joey Saladino Show

or the app America Now News. You got any merchandise? I got them wearing canceled. Where can we buy that? Where can people get that? Merchlinkinbio.com. Very cool. I got that URL.

Oh, that's awesome. And your YouTube channel is pretty huge, right? It's just not monetized right now? It's big. I haven't posted in like six months because it's demonetized. YouTube reps, if you're watching, just throw me a bone. Yeah, man. Get this guy back on the market.

I have a whole catalog of content I'm ready to post that I was filming. I was like, Joey Sal's 2.0. I'm going to come in hard. I got highly produced content, and I'm right about to post it. Can't you do sponsors, though? My viewership plummeted after the demonetization. That's the way it works. That's what I'm saying.

The sponsorships don't really pay me much because it's hard for me to decide my price because my my viewership fluctuation it's like i'll get 50 000 views on a video 2 million on this one so it's like how do i charge them right do you have a minds account no we i co-founded that with bill you should get started on there because i know bill loves your work yeah he's the ceo i bet he'd push your stuff yeah definitely definitely minds yeah yeah i'll check that out because they actually have a pro partner program now too okay it's not as good as youtube but it's at least it's something to compete with because you know with all due respect to say like a bit shoot mine's actually you get paid like a partner program that's the that's the key but it's not as good as facebook or youtube but it's the only way to make it happen

is to use it i've been just distributing distributing my content on all the alt platforms. It's like a little bit here, a little bit there, but it adds up. It's something significant altogether. Minds is doing this new technology where you can link it with your YouTube channel, so any new YouTube uploads will upload to Minds automatically. That's cool. I'm going to check that and write this down. It's free software, which is nice.

I think that was something else i was going to say about minds i don't know were you going to mention your minds oh i have a minds channel at ian crossland along with all my other social media accounts at ian crossland throughout the internet right on and of course you can follow at sour patch lids yeah i'm on twitter pushing all the buttons yep lids posting spicy memes correct and uh we're we're back Monday, right? Yeah. Maybe. Well, I don't have anyone lined up yet. Well, we're super excited for the second week of January is going to be spicy. It's getting, yeah, it's awesome. I'll just put it this way.

There are people who are in Congress who are planning on coming. You know their names. But I'm not going to. I think I know. I don't announce guests because when they cancel, I'm going to get disappointed. Not if, but when, because they do. Well, especially people who are really busy and people in Congress. Am I allowed to say my guess or would that like give it away no i don't say anything yeah just in case you know congress is a verb it means to move together ian let me

ask you a question what is uh in what what is uh pro and con in that context what does pro mean forward what does con mean against what. What does con mean? Against. What is progress? To move forward. What is Congress? To move against. Boom. That's their job. Say no to the president when he gets crazy.

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